| Thursday, December 22nd, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | Tommck: | I copied the NUV (with nuvexport (nuv+sql)) out and renamed it to MPG... |
| [00:00:00] | Tommck: | no dice |
| [00:00:00] | Tommck: | it should be just mpeg data, but Windows media player doesn't recognize the format |
| [00:00:00] | Tommck: | neither does AVIcodec, which will usually tell you what format something is. |
| [00:01:00] | kormoc: | what about mplayer for windows? |
| [00:01:00] | Tommck: | never tried it.. |
| [00:01:00] | Tommck: | I'd prefer not to have to have my non-techie cousin install new software to play things if I can help it |
| [00:02:00] | kormoc: | http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/win32/ |
| [00:02:00] | Tommck: | will that play nuv files? |
| [00:02:00] | thechris: | kormoc: you can get the frontend to load without the backend. the setup program segfaults |
| [00:02:00] | kormoc: | I doubt you have much of a choice, as even if you transcoded them, it will take a long time |
| [00:02:00] | kormoc: | thechris, sure, it will load, just not work. what distro are you on? |
| [00:03:00] | thechris: | gentoo |
| [00:03:00] | kormoc: | tomimo, it should play nuv files fine |
| [00:03:00] | Tommck: | interesting |
| [00:03:00] | thechris: | i am trying to solve the mythtv-setup segfault issue |
| [00:03:00] | praet: | anyone know how to move the mouse cursor programmatically? |
| [00:04:00] | kormoc: | thechris, install gdb, recompile myth with the debug use flag set, then tun gdb mythtv-setup, type run, then type bt when it crashes, that's the backtrace and will help figure out what's going on. |
| [00:04:00] | kormoc: | praet, depends on what you are doing. Google knows in anycase. |
| [00:05:00] | thechris: | i get (gdb) |
| [00:05:00] | thechris: | now what do i type? |
| [00:05:00] | thechris: | bt — no stack |
| [00:05:00] | thechris: | the app never came up |
| [00:05:00] | kormoc: | did you recompile myth with the debug flag? |
| [00:05:00] | thechris: | yes |
| [00:05:00] | kormoc: | your packages are up to date? |
| [00:05:00] | thechris: | yes |
| [00:06:00] | kormoc: | revdev-rebuild shows everything is fine? |
| [00:06:00] | kormoc: | what gcc version are you using? throw emerge --info into a pastebin? |
| [00:06:00] | Tommck: | kormoc – mplayer for windows requires cygwin?? |
| [00:07:00] | kormoc: | donno, I just know it plays almost anything |
| [00:07:00] | Tommck: | ok |
| [00:07:00] | thechris: | revdep-rebuild takes a while to run... |
| [00:09:00] | thechris: | it switched themes when i ran mythfrontend |
| [00:09:00] | thechris: | now it just hangs |
| [00:09:00] | thechris: | oh, actually, it works |
| [00:09:00] | thechris: | possibly an issue with the theme? |
| [00:10:00] | kormoc: | could very well be |
| [00:11:00] | Lancer_Koala: | gooo! the theme choice can cause a segfault?! |
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| [00:11:00] | Lancer_Koala: | that'd be lame |
| [00:11:00] | TylerGalus: | ok i'm back... is there a way to adjust the scheduler? my shows are off by about 10–15min |
| [00:12:00] | Lancer_Koala: | is the date/time on your box dight |
| [00:12:00] | Lancer_Koala: | s/dight/right |
| [00:13:00] | Lancer_Koala: | TylerGalus: yes, I believe you can set that in myth, but if everything is off, I would make sure the clock on the box is set right first |
| [00:13:00] | TylerGalus: | yes.. it's set to sync via ntp.. it also matches our cable box's time |
| [00:13:00] | thechris: | Lancer_Koala: i'll have to recompile without debug support to see if it works |
| [00:13:00] | kormoc: | so everything on your cable box is comming in 15 min late? |
| [00:13:00] | Lancer_Koala: | oh, so maybe the start/end times got set wrong.. |
| [00:14:00] | Lancer_Koala: | is the time the show starts wrong, or is the recording starting with a delay? |
| [00:14:00] | thechris: | of course zap2it will be the death of me. |
| [00:14:00] | Lancer_Koala: | (i.e. is it myth's fault, or the cable's |
| [00:14:00] | thechris: | my account is good enough to use online, but in mythtv it does nothing |
| [00:14:00] | Lancer_Koala: | ) |
| [00:14:00] | kormoc: | thechris, you really don't seem to like this... have you considered tivo? |
| [00:14:00] | TylerGalus: | no i was watching the current recording and it was set for 7pm and it caught the tail 10min of the 6:30 show on the same channel |
| [00:15:00] | Lancer_Koala: | kormoc: hehe |
| [00:15:00] | kormoc: | TylerGalus, likely you set it to start to record 10 min early |
| [00:15:00] | TylerGalus: | and it was recording shows for the past few hours |
| [00:15:00] | thechris: | kormoc: i just don't like things that constantly break and people who tell me that the things aren't broken... |
| [00:15:00] | TylerGalus: | is that a default? i wouldn't have changed something like that |
| [00:15:00] | Lancer_Koala: | yeah, I'm the envy of many of my friends when I show em what myth can do, but I still don't tell the non-linux users to install it :-) |
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| [00:15:00] | thechris: | once things work, its fine. but every install of myth is rough. |
| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | TylerGalus, no, it's just a option in the settings |
| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | thechris, most people don't nearly have as many problems as you seem to. |
| [00:16:00] | Lancer_Koala: | thechris: actually I felt the same way a while back, but this time round it was almost painless |
| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | thechris, and why would you setup the frontend before the database/backend? |
| [00:16:00] | Lancer_Koala: | only the addon modules that are giving me problems |
| [00:17:00] | thechris: | kormoc: running the frontend seems to have fixed the issue with the setup app segfaultingh |
| [00:17:00] | thechris: | kormoc: this is reason enough. |
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| [00:17:00] | kormoc: | but you were running the frontend before, and then you asked about how to setup the db. The frontned settins are stored in the db, so how do you expect them to be delt with correctly? |
| [00:17:00] | thechris: | oh |
| [00:18:00] | thechris: | i thought the backend was running |
| [00:18:00] | thechris: | the fronend kept asking for the backend. |
| [00:18:00] | TylerGalus: | ok well i've got a hour and a half break from the end of this recording until lost comes on and i really want that recoreded properly.. has anyone seen this being isolated to one channel or will it be all or none type thing |
| [00:18:00] | thechris: | so i thought the user/pass was set up wrong. |
| [00:18:00] | thechris: | but it seems you must run setup before the backend starts |
| [00:18:00] | kormoc: | TylerGalus, some channels are time shifted, so that at 7:05, it's still the previous show, is that the case? |
| [00:19:00] | kormoc: | thechris, yes, you need to, as mythtv-setup setups the backend |
| [00:19:00] | TylerGalus: | i'll have to check.. right now it's happening on food network.. i'll have to check the other channels |
| [00:19:00] | thechris: | i've had myth "working" in the past. really i mainly use mythtv for the sceduling and mythweb |
| [00:19:00] | Lancer_Koala: | TylerGalus: yeah, it could be the channel being delayed, or myth being configed wrong, you really kinda need to figure out which one's fault it is |
| [00:20:00] | thechris: | kormoc: that makes sense, but mythtv-setup was segfaulting at the time. |
| [00:20:00] | thechris: | kormoc: i wanted to see if it was a QT issue with widgets, which would show up in mythfrontend as well. |
| [00:21:00] | Lancer_Koala: | so once I start a rip of a cd, it doesn't cancel when I hit back, eh? |
| [00:22:00] | ** Lancer_Koala waits for the job to end so he can regain control ** | |
| [00:24:00] | dennis_p: | Yeah, tv-out on my 350 works now (kubuntu mythtv) Picture quality is great except for motion, live tv and recordings look like frames are being skipped |
| [00:25:00] | TylerGalus: | ok i'm guessing the delay setting is in myth-setup? |
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| [00:26:00] | Lancer_Koala: | TylerGalus: I can't remember (and I have 10 more minutes before I can check on my system) but I think there are two settings |
| [00:26:00] | Lancer_Koala: | TylerGalus: I think one is in the backend setup and one is in the Utils under the frontend |
| [00:26:00] | Lancer_Koala: | somone correct me if I'm wrong |
| [00:26:00] | kormoc: | thechris, if it was a qt issue, you would have gotten a BT |
| [00:27:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [00:27:00] | TylerGalus: | ok it looks like that one channel.. i checked 5 others and all the shows are changing now (1–2 min lost i can deal with) |
| [00:27:00] | TylerGalus: | is there a way to adjust just what's on one channel? |
| [00:27:00] | Lancer_Koala: | TylerGalus: yep |
| [00:28:00] | Lancer_Koala: | I think that might be in the backend setup |
| [00:28:00] | kormoc: | actually |
| [00:28:00] | Lancer_Koala: | but if that channel pulls its head out, it may change |
| [00:28:00] | kormoc: | I think it's under channel setup int he frontend |
| [00:28:00] | Lancer_Koala: | so you may want to see if its consistent over a few days before you muck with the timing |
| [00:28:00] | Lancer_Koala: | oh, kormoc may be right |
| [00:28:00] | Lancer_Koala: | I forget |
| [00:29:00] | TylerGalus: | ok like i said as long as i can record Lost properly ;) |
| [00:29:00] | Lancer_Koala: | I know there is a channel editor setup somewhere |
| [00:32:00] | thechris: | alright, i'm packing up my equipment and heading home for christmas. i'll recompile things and see if it is a theme problem or not |
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| [00:34:00] | dennis_p: | what is the most obvious option to improve live tv throoughput on 350 Pal? To make it as smooth as normal TV? |
| [00:35:00] | TylerGalus: | found the place.. it can be set on a schedule recording basis... under schedule options theres a start x min early/late and and end x min early/late |
| [00:35:00] | Lancer_Koala: | thats it |
| [00:35:00] | TylerGalus: | so i just changed all the shows scheduled on that channel to be 5 min late starting and ending |
| [00:36:00] | Lancer_Koala: | dennis_p: uh.. I'm on ntsc, but it has always been smooth |
| [00:36:00] | Lancer_Koala: | dennis_p: do you mean it is stuttering/dropping frames? |
| [00:36:00] | TylerGalus: | plus i love the fact it will find earlier/later times to record a show to avoid confilicts.. the $40 windows program never did that :) |
| [00:36:00] | dennis_p: | looks like dropping frames |
| [00:37:00] | Lancer_Koala: | dennis_p: cpu underpowered fo rthe format you are using? |
| [00:37:00] | mchou: | wow, segate apparaently acquired maxtor |
| [00:37:00] | dennis_p: | mhm, amd2500 |
| [00:37:00] | mchou: | s/segate/seagate |
| [00:38:00] | Juski: | say what? |
| [00:38:00] | Juski: | oh god no |
| [00:38:00] | Lancer_Koala: | dennis_p: ah, that seems like plenty |
| [00:38:00] | Juski: | it's for real.. on the Seagate website |
| [00:38:00] | mchou: | Juski: http://www.seagate.com/cda/newsinfo/newsroom/ . . . 24^1,00.html |
| [00:39:00] | Lancer_Koala: | hrm.. thats kinda suprising |
| [00:39:00] | mchou: | no wonder maxtor quality is the shits :) |
| [00:39:00] | Juski: | damn. I like maxtor |
| [00:40:00] | dennis_p: | amd xp 2500 kubuntu, I'll be buying samsung heard they were quiet |
| [00:40:00] | Juski: | mchou: err yeah.. out of 5,000 drives my company shipped a while ago we had less than 1% returns. hmm |
| [00:40:00] | Lancer_Koala: | seagate's are pretty fricken quiet |
| [00:40:00] | Juski: | sorry not _my_ company.. the one I work for |
| [00:40:00] | Lancer_Koala: | at least the barracuda's |
| [00:41:00] | Juski: | nothing's as quiet as having no HDD tho |
| [00:41:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [00:41:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [00:41:00] | Juski: | or fan |
| [00:41:00] | TylerGalus: | but i thought WD owned seagate |
| [00:41:00] | rjune: | Juski: you using terminals? |
| [00:41:00] | Juski: | rjune: nope |
| [00:41:00] | mchou: | Juski: that's surprising. Maxtor run rather hot, generally speaking |
| [00:41:00] | Juski: | not as hot as Hitachi or WD |
| [00:42:00] | kormoc: | TylerGalus, obviously not :P |
| [00:42:00] | mchou: | Juski: huh?? |
| [00:42:00] | Tommck: | so... any House fans in here? |
| [00:42:00] | mchou: | Tommck: yeah, me |
| [00:42:00] | Lancer_Koala: | Tommck: kinda |
| [00:42:00] | mchou: | House MD |
| [00:42:00] | Juski: | and we had such a bad rap with Seagate 5 years ago... maybe we need to find a new HDD |
| [00:42:00] | Tommck: | anyone happen to still have the Episode called "Hunting" lying around? |
| [00:42:00] | Tommck: | I accidentally deleted it and need to get it for my cousin |
| [00:42:00] | mchou: | such a curmudgeon |
| [00:43:00] | Juski: | Tommck: no asking for file shares in here. peeps have been banned for less |
| [00:43:00] | Tommck: | good point |
| [00:43:00] | Juski: | keep those MPAA bastards off all our backs ;) |
| [00:43:00] | kormoc: | MPAA deals with tv shows? |
| [00:44:00] | Juski: | you get my drift though |
| [00:44:00] | Tommck: | kormoc – I believe so |
| [00:44:00] | kormoc: | heh, too bad, TVPAA is funnier then MPAA |
| [00:44:00] | mchou: | Tommck: nope. watch & delete |
| [00:44:00] | Juski: | MP Ass of America.. has a ring to it |
| [00:45:00] | Juski: | anyway when you can pick up series box sets for so little money there's little sense in keeping much IMHO |
| [00:45:00] | Tommck: | it's the current season |
| [00:45:00] | Tommck: | he wants to catch up after 6 months in Iraq and I deleted an episode on him |
| [00:46:00] | Juski: | how do you accidentally delete a show anyway? it takes like _how_ many remote keypresses? ;) |
| [00:46:00] | Tommck: | fat-fingered it |
| [00:46:00] | mchou: | Juski: see this one? http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004261.php |
| [00:46:00] | Tommck: | well, I told it not to delete when it was done playing... then it asked again, like it always does and it deleted it :( |
| [00:47:00] | kormoc: | tomimo, mine never asks that |
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| [00:47:00] | Tommck: | is that a setting? |
| [00:47:00] | Lancer_Koala: | yeah, mine doesn't ask when I'm done watchin |
| [00:48:00] | Tommck: | when it gets to the end of the recording (or you hit ESC), it pops up one thing... I say "don't save my place, and go to the menu" |
| [00:48:00] | Lancer_Koala: | I have to tell it to |
| [00:48:00] | Tommck: | then, it asks if I want to delete it again |
| [00:48:00] | Lancer_Koala: | not for me |
| [00:48:00] | Tommck: | I'll check it out for the future |
| [00:48:00] | Juski: | analog hole.. wtf planet are they on? |
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| [00:49:00] | kormoc: | tomimo, there are options for them |
| [00:49:00] | Tommck: | kormoc – cool |
| [00:49:00] | mchou: | Juski: a-hole for short :) |
| [00:49:00] | Juski: | stop buying movies.. that'll hurt em. stop going to the cinema... don't watch ads.. don't buy products featured in ads.. don't subscribe to pay-tv.. erm... what can we do to hurt em that won't affect our fun though? |
| [00:50:00] | Molotov: | my myth box isnt on the network. i used xmltv-0.5.41-win32 to download a listing using the tv_grab_na_dd option. when i go to do mythfilldatabase --file 1 -1 a.xml it's telling me, "dont use tv_grab_na_dd use the internal datadirect grabber." |
| [00:50:00] | Molotov: | any thoughts? |
| [00:50:00] | Tommck: | Juski – kick em in the nuts? that'll hurt... and it's fun :) |
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| [00:59:00] | kormoc: | Molotov, setup myth to use it? it's in mythtv-setup I beleive |
| [00:59:00] | kormoc: | Molotov, or, if you are in the us, just setup zap2it? |
| [00:59:00] | Lancer_Koala: | oooh, oooh, I'd sign up for the 'kick em in the nuts' plan |
| [01:00:00] | eiggirC: | *grump* I have one channel that won't tune any better than black and white |
| [01:00:00] | eiggirC: | of course this is the channel I want to record from |
| [01:02:00] | kormoc: | check your wireing |
| [01:02:00] | Molotov: | kormoc: i'm in the us and i used zap2it |
| [01:02:00] | kormoc: | Molotov, so why use XMLTV at all? |
| [01:02:00] | eiggirC: | kormoc: all other channels work okay |
| [01:02:00] | eiggirC: | its a UHF channel up around the 799 MHz |
| [01:03:00] | kormoc: | eiggirC, there's a fine tuning option somewhere I beleive |
| [01:03:00] | Molotov: | kormoc: my myth box doesnt have internet access. can you recommend a way to get it the listings? |
| [01:03:00] | kormoc: | Molotov, give it inet access? :P |
| [01:03:00] | eiggirC: | kormoc: doesn't seem to have any effect. |
| [01:03:00] | eiggirC: | Molotov: get a wireless ethernet card for it |
| [01:04:00] | Molotov: | what i'm trying to accomplish is downloading the listings from another computer and then manually importing them to my myth box |
| [01:04:00] | eiggirC: | Molotov: you need a network connection, or to use a floppy disk or USB disk every time |
| [01:04:00] | eiggirC: | get a network conenction – its just better |
| [01:05:00] | kormoc: | Molotov, you need to switch myth to expect xmlltv files, and then your file command should work |
| [01:05:00] | Molotov: | the problem is not copying the file the problem is getting mythfilldatabase to take it |
| [01:05:00] | Molotov: | kormoc: cool! where would that be |
| [01:05:00] | kormoc: | mythtv-setup I beleive |
| [01:05:00] | Molotov: | righton, brb |
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| [01:08:00] | Molotov: | shit, it's not in there. i'm using knoppmyth |
| [01:08:00] | Molotov: | it has a bunch of other country stuff |
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| [01:14:00] | Juski: | yeh. they say computer games are no good for your heart. I'm sitting here just having completed another NFS level & I think I'm about to collapse |
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| [01:16:00] | foobum: | is anyone using mythburn with a recent SVN? |
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| [01:21:00] | NightBird: | "I made myself a snowball, as perfect as it could be. I thought I'd keep it as a pet and let it sleep with me. I made it some pajams and a pillow for its head. Then alst night it ran away, but first-- it wet the bed" |
| [01:26:00] | Juski: | rofl |
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| [01:35:00] | cesman: | foobum: Yes, using the mythburn-ui |
| [01:36:00] | foobum: | cesman: ah.. just made install :) |
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| [01:36:00] | cesman: | mythburn itself is being rewritten to work with the recent mythweb changes |
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| [01:41:00] | foobum: | cesman: aha, thanks |
| [01:42:00] | foobum: | cesman: mythburn-ui appears to be working.. shame it shows all the livetv recordings tho |
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| [01:44:00] | Molotov: | kormoc: i believe it is set to xmltv yet i still get that odd message |
| [01:45:00] | Juski: | you know that 'VEIL' shit the MPAA is rattling on about... won't that just be yet another thing that only 1 company owns the rights to , a la Dolby or Macrovision? Do you guys in the USA not have bodies looking after conflicts of interest... e.g. monopolies commissions? I wonder how many members of congress & the MP-Ass have shares in, or directorships of, the company behind the DRM stuff... |
| [01:45:00] | eiggirC: | I've lost some recordings from /var/lib/mythtv, but the backend won't delete the records about them. |
| [01:45:00] | eiggirC: | How do I remove them from the listings? |
| [01:46:00] | Juski: | eiggirC: you need to make dummy files |
| [01:46:00] | eiggirC: | okay thanks Juski. |
| [01:46:00] | Juski: | when the backend complains that file 'x' aint there – just make one |
| [01:46:00] | eiggirC: | got to figure out waht the names where |
| [01:46:00] | Juski: | backend'll tell ya |
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| [01:48:00] | eiggirC: | Juski: WOOT! thank you. it was in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log |
| [01:49:00] | Juski: | message to the users mailing list.. can yous keep it down a bit? 129 new messages in my email... strewth |
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| [01:52:00] | heinola: | hello all |
| [01:52:00] | heinola: | any here have knoppmyth reboot right after trying to start gdm ? |
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| [02:04:00] | Molotov: | forget this |
| [02:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | ? |
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| [02:05:00] | Molotov: | i'm trying to get xmltv listings to my myth box manually because it doesnt have internet |
| [02:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhhh |
| [02:05:00] | Molotov: | heh |
| [02:06:00] | Juski: | so er.. how are you on here, Molotov? |
| [02:06:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [02:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | and --file doesn't work ? |
| [02:06:00] | Molotov: | juski: you irc from your myth box? |
| [02:06:00] | Molotov: | GreyFoxx: it gives me ""dont use tv_grab_na_dd use the internal datadirect grabber." |
| [02:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been manually importing a xml programming list for the last few days |
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| [02:07:00] | Juski: | Molotov: sometimes I do |
| [02:07:00] | Molotov: | GreyFoxx: you may be the light at the end of the tunnel for me |
| [02:07:00] | Molotov: | Juski: na man, i have the router in my bedroom :) that's where i am now |
| [02:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been doing it for a test system of one I'm doing for my uncle who will not have a net connection :) |
| [02:07:00] | Juski: | heheh |
| [02:07:00] | simcop2387: | video plugin doesn't seem to be working properly, it opens 20 database connections and then just sits there without displaying any UI |
| [02:07:00] | simcop2387: | it was working 15 minutes ago |
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| [02:08:00] | Molotov: | GreyFoxx: what are you using to pull the xml listings |
| [02:08:00] | Molotov: | i tried xmltv-0.5.41-win32 |
| [02:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | tv_grab_dvb which is pulling the eit data and dumping it into an xml file in the xmltv format |
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| [02:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | then just /usr/local/bin/mythfilldatabase --file SOURCEIDNUM 0 file.xml |
| [02:09:00] | Juski: | oo btw GreyFoxx: any thoughts on what happens when that logos site goes titsup? i.e. where will that script get its icons from.. is anyone erm.. caching em? |
| [02:09:00] | Molotov: | GreyFoxx: i would need a win32 client |
| [02:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: Assuming it will? Lyngsat has been around along time, but they might well lockdown the logos |
| [02:10:00] | Molotov: | greyfoxx: and here it's regular cable, not dvb |
| [02:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Molotov: That's irrelevant |
| [02:10:00] | Juski: | I've taken the precaution of grabbing all the UK icons |
| [02:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | As long as you have the data in the right format it just a matter of calling mythfilldatabase properly |
| [02:11:00] | Juski: | I'll make em up to date as needed |
| [02:11:00] | Molotov: | GreyFoxx: can you make any sense of that msg it gives me? "dont use tv_grab_na_dd use the internal datadirect grabber." it's just odd |
| [02:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: I modified that script to store the URL to the logo in my channels table. I'm gonna do up lists..... "Northamerica" "UK" "France" Etc etc and people can import them into the existing structure where mythfilldatabase will download them for you |
| [02:12:00] | Juski: | ermm... you can force mythfilldatabase not to use a grabber.. i.e. just use a file |
| [02:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Molotov: Show me the commandline you are running |
| [02:12:00] | Molotov: | mythfilldatabase --file 1 -1 a.xml |
| [02:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski : There are tables in there now that mythfilldatabase will use to try and auto download the logos for you |
| [02:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | IF the data is in there |
| [02:14:00] | Juski: | GreyFoxx.. hmmm.. not sure that Lyngsat will appreaciate all the extra traffic |
| [02:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm gonna setup a Database of pointers... Country/Callsign/Name/URL/whatever |
| [02:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | They've put it up for free download now, so I'm just using the resources they have made available |
| [02:14:00] | Juski: | fairy nuff |
| [02:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | and people will only be grabbing any particular logo once |
| [02:15:00] | Juski: | right, so it won't happen every time mythfilldatabase runs |
| [02:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | myth will only grab logos for channels in their tables and that have a callsign->logo map |
| [02:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | exactly |
| [02:16:00] | Juski: | cool |
| [02:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can have hundreds of "mapped" callsigns -> logo, but if you only have 10 channels it will only try to fill in those 10, and then only once |
| [02:16:00] | simcop2387: | ahah |
| [02:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | and as your provider adds a channel that is in the mapped list that new one will get grabbed |
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| [02:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | What I might do is put out a general email asking people to email me just their channel table. I volunteer to do the initial bulk of the work generating the lists |
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| [02:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | Some of the smaller country lists I might do manually :) |
| [02:20:00] | Juski: | heh. freeview in the UK has like 10 channels or something |
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| [02:20:00] | Juski: | maybe less if you're talking about watchable stuff |
| [02:20:00] | Molotov: | maybe it's something with knoppmyth |
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| [02:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | Afganistan has like 4 or 5 |
| [02:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can do those manually :) |
| [02:21:00] | Juski: | any Afgan mythtv users? wow |
| [02:21:00] | IA-Outdoors: | hey, I have a serial port connection between my myth and directtv box. I have a channel changing script I'm using but nothing seems to be happening. How do I tell what serial port (e.g. /dev/ttyS0) it is trying to use? |
| [02:22:00] | Juski: | 0 would be com1 usually I think |
| [02:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [02:22:00] | IA-Outdoors: | yeah, I've configured the scrip to use 0 but it isn't working |
| [02:22:00] | IA-Outdoors: | is there a way I can test that the port even works? |
| [02:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: You should send me your channel table! |
| [02:23:00] | Juski: | easy done :) |
| [02:31:00] | Molotov: | do you think knoppmyth has usb-drive support? |
| [02:31:00] | Molotov: | i'm not sure how to get it to mount |
| [02:32:00] | Juski: | Molotov: sorry I hear 'knoppmyth' and go 'la la la la la' very loudly. Like when someone says 'this kworld tuner doesn't work' |
| [02:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Never used knoppmyth so I can't say. I've been suprised if it didn't |
| [02:32:00] | Molotov: | Juski: ok... |
| [02:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | hahaha |
| [02:32:00] | Juski: | Molotov: you at least need USBFS I think |
| [02:32:00] | Molotov: | i think it has that |
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| [02:33:00] | Juski: | and erm.. I've never played with external disks in Linux yet |
| [02:33:00] | Juski: | at least, not USB or firewire |
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| [02:33:00] | Molotov: | no sweat. i appreciate you guys at least replying |
| [02:34:00] | Molotov: | out of 146 users in here i guess only you two know their shit |
| [02:34:00] | Juski: | err nope |
| [02:34:00] | Juski: | out of that many users there are only so many actually here & typing ;) |
| [02:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | We're just the most active at this very moment :) |
| [02:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | My IRC client is logged in 24/7, but I'm not sitting here all the time :) |
| [02:35:00] | Molotov: | ditto |
| [02:36:00] | ** Juski checks his free disk space ** | |
| [02:37:00] | Juski: | hmmm.. time to ask a dumb question.. can you delete groups of programs in one fell swoop in mythtv? |
| [02:38:00] | Juski: | I've got like loads of Frasier episodes I'm never gonna get round to watching |
| [02:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not that I can think of though I might be wrong |
| [02:39:00] | Juski: | that's what I thought |
| [02:39:00] | Juski: | mythweb it is, then |
| [02:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | You could use Mythweb on the recordings page... just limit it to the Frasier shows |
| [02:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | that and the new ajax code should make it fairly quick |
| [02:40:00] | Juski: | still running 0.18 here |
| [02:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | I thought you had updated :) |
| [02:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | but you can still limit in 0.18 to just show Frasier so it should be better than scrolling to find them :) |
| [02:41:00] | Juski: | I'd updated my testing box |
| [02:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [02:41:00] | Juski: | but had to reinstall that when I upgraded the kernel.. damn PoS |
| [02:42:00] | Juski: | stil not got round to re-doing it yet |
| [02:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [02:44:00] | Juski: | down to 92 hours of unwatched stuff |
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| [02:47:00] | Juski: | half this crap isn't even mine |
| [02:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got hours of Sesame Street, Dora the Explorer and Jimmy Neutron |
| [02:51:00] | Juski: | heheh |
| [02:51:00] | Juski: | never mind that – what do the kids watch? :-P |
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| [02:58:00] | PickleS: | hi ppl |
| [02:58:00] | PickleS: | i've set up mythphone, semi succesfully |
| [02:59:00] | PickleS: | i'm a little stumped with which mic device to use, since alsa mixer isn't being used |
| [03:00:00] | PickleS: | (it asks for a seperate device), any ideas what i should add to my .asoundrc ? |
| [03:00:00] | PickleS: | TYIA |
| [03:04:00] | Juski: | PickleS: hi – and er .. no idea |
| [03:05:00] | PickleS: | hehe.. well ty anyways |
| [03:05:00] | PickleS: | have you got mythphone working? |
| [03:06:00] | PickleS: | Juski: if so, wjat device did you use? (assuming oss?) |
| [03:06:00] | Juski: | PickleS: I've never tried mythphone |
| [03:07:00] | ** PickleS smiles ** | |
| [03:07:00] | Juski: | ... and with that, I bid you all farewell. Have a merry xmas/holidays/whatever :) |
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| [03:15:00] | opello: | IA-Outdoors: it may also be better to ask here |
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| [03:25:00] | PickleS: | once again, not to troll in the channel, |
| [03:26:00] | PickleS: | anyone setup mythphone succesfully? |
| [03:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never bothered to install it :) |
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| [03:26:00] | IA-Outdoors: | if I cat /dev/ttyS0 shouldn't it just sit there? |
| [03:27:00] | IA-Outdoors: | until I pump something to the device |
| [03:27:00] | opello: | yup |
| [03:27:00] | opello: | or say something like it couldn't read / open the device |
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| [03:29:00] | IA-Outdoors: | k, what do I do if it just returns right away? |
| [03:30:00] | deebus: | can anyone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong with pvr-500 and knoppmyth? |
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| [03:31:00] | IA-Outdoors: | opello: anything maybe in the bios that might f'this up? |
| [03:31:00] | IA-Outdoors: | ...or the kernel for that matter? |
| [03:31:00] | opello: | serial port disabled? |
| [03:31:00] | IA-Outdoors: | you mean in kernel or bios? |
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| [03:32:00] | opello: | bios |
| [03:32:00] | IA-Outdoors: | bios, I assume |
| [03:32:00] | opello: | serial port support in kernel, heh |
| [03:32:00] | IA-Outdoors: | yeah....figured here was a setting there |
| [03:32:00] | ** IA-Outdoors sighs ** | |
| [03:33:00] | IA-Outdoors: | opello: what option am I looking for in kernel? |
| [03:33:00] | deebus: | mythtv tells me all the the available inputs are being used for recording, but when I go the delete menu, there is nothing there. does anyone know what might be causing this? |
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| [03:34:00] | opello: | under character devices in my config i have a CONFIG_SERIAL |
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| [03:37:00] | Cromz: | deebus, normally when I get that, it's cause the ivtv driver is wacked. ( prolly cause I play cov / coh on the same machine ). reboot. :/ and my problem is solved. |
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| [03:38:00] | deebus: | Cromz: thx. booting up now... |
| [03:38:00] | PickleS: | instead of rebooting you could reload the module maybe? |
| [03:38:00] | deebus: | how about the resolution within the mythtv menus? can I change that? |
| [03:39:00] | poop: | deebus: You can change the GUI resolution ... |
| [03:39:00] | deebus: | ok, mythtv boots up just fine now, but all the channels are just giving me noise |
| [03:39:00] | IA-Outdoors: | opello: no such thing for me under 2.6.13 |
| [03:39:00] | deebus: | gui resolution is in "appearance", I guess? |
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| [03:40:00] | opello: | hm, i was on 2.6.11 and had it i thought |
| [03:40:00] | poop: | Is anyone working on hardware detection stuff for myth? |
| [03:40:00] | opello: | the config i looked at was from a 2.4 though |
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| [03:43:00] | IA-Outdoors: | opello, ah found it CONIG_SERIAL_8250 |
| [03:43:00] | IA-Outdoors: | ...was already set |
| [03:44:00] | opello: | dmesg | grep -i ttys? |
| [03:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | poop: Not that I've seen anyone ever mention |
| [03:47:00] | IA-Outdoors: | opello: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A |
| [03:47:00] | IA-Outdoors: | opello: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A |
| [03:47:00] | opello: | hm |
| [03:47:00] | opello: | try both :) |
| [03:47:00] | opello: | maybe your serial port is ttyS1 |
| [03:48:00] | IA-Outdoors: | if I cat either I get a sub-second pause and then a new prompt |
| [03:48:00] | opello: | do you know the baud and other settings for the connection? |
| [03:49:00] | IA-Outdoors: | well I'm trying on 9600...not sure what it would need, though |
| [03:49:00] | deebus: | anyone know why my pvr is giving me noise on all channels? |
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| [03:50:00] | IA-Outdoors: | deebus: alsa configured properly? |
| [03:50:00] | opello: | i guess play with stty and cat ... unless someone has a better idea |
| [03:51:00] | opello: | i've never had any problems using serial devices |
| [03:51:00] | deebus: | I mean video noise |
| [03:51:00] | IA-Outdoors: | deebus, which is fine, but may still be an alsa problem with how you configured a specific line |
| [03:52:00] | deebus: | ohhh...gotcha |
| [03:52:00] | deebus: | how do I configure alsa? |
| [03:53:00] | IA-Outdoors: | alsaconf or alsaconfig or something like that |
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| [03:54:00] | deebus: | hm. no go. this is a knoppmyth box |
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| [04:03:00] | PickleS: | deebus: have a look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/.asoundrc |
| [04:03:00] | PickleS: | deebus: or generaly http://alsa.opensrc.org/ |
| [04:04:00] | PickleS: | i don't think your problem is alsa tho |
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| [04:08:00] | deebus: | well, I don't get any sound, either |
| [04:10:00] | PickleS: | when u say noise, do mean video, white noise? |
| [04:11:00] | deebus: | yes |
| [04:11:00] | deebus: | it's all static, basically |
| [04:11:00] | PickleS: | ah, i c |
| [04:11:00] | deebus: | just ran alsaconf. going to give it a reboot again |
| [04:12:00] | fallenangel: | anyone have a problem with commericial flagging after using nuvexport? I know they are being fagged cause I can skip them when playing back a recording but after an export to divx they are there. |
| [04:15:00] | deebus: | no good |
| [04:15:00] | deebus: | no sound, and still have noise for video |
| [04:17:00] | deebus: | anyone have any ideas? |
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| [04:19:00] | deebus: | hm. now my program guide shows "unkown" for every channel |
| [04:19:00] | ** poop loads htpc up with 2 extra firewire cards ** | |
| [04:19:00] | poop: | Time for some testing. |
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| [04:20:00] | Krazylegz: | Anyone using ivtv-0.5.1 unstable? |
| [04:23:00] | deebus: | PickelS: any idea what's giving me the noise on video? |
| [04:25:00] | PickleS: | deebus: not sure, loks maybe that it's not tuned |
| [04:26:00] | PickleS: | antena connected? |
| [04:26:00] | PickleS: | have you had the system working before? |
| [04:26:00] | PickleS: | or is this the first time with this setup? |
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| [04:29:00] | fallenangel: | how can i watch live tv and record a show at the same time? Myth is prompting me to stop a recording (only 1 going on) to watch live tv? |
| [04:32:00] | PickleS: | fallenangel: you need dual tuners to record/watch 2 different channels, or 1 tuner to watch the same channel you are recording from |
| [04:32:00] | fallenangel: | oh |
| [04:33:00] | fallenangel: | thanks |
| [04:33:00] | kormoc: | that's not quite right |
| [04:33:00] | kormoc: | when it's currently recording |
| [04:33:00] | kormoc: | you can go into recorded programs |
| [04:33:00] | kormoc: | and watch the currently recording one |
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| [04:33:00] | kormoc: | or wait, is that what you said a little oddly? |
| [04:34:00] | fallenangel: | yeah |
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| [04:34:00] | PickleS: | true, but if ur watching live TV, (and it starts to record, depending on your settings) it will automaticaly without a break simply tune that program and contue the liveTV as it records... |
| [04:34:00] | ** PickleS points at the wine .... sorry, not being clear ** | |
| [04:35:00] | fallenangel: | ah |
| [04:35:00] | deebus: | sorry pickels...this is the first time it's been set up |
| [04:35:00] | deebus: | (went afk for a bit) |
| [04:37:00] | deebus: | side note...why does "pre-scaling theme images" take so long? or rather, should it? |
| [04:37:00] | poop: | alright, 9 firewire ports to choose from |
| [04:40:00] | kormoc: | deebus, it takes less then 30 seconds on mine |
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| [04:44:00] | poop: | rookline, Massachusetts, December 21 2005. The first major version release of the X Window System in more than a decade, |
| [04:44:00] | poop: | I completely missed that announcement. |
| [04:44:00] | poop: | I wonder where X.org HQ is. |
| [04:45:00] | kormoc: | http://www.x.org perhaps? |
| [04:45:00] | poop: | No, I mean where in Brookline (I live there) |
| [04:46:00] | ** PickleS straightens up a bit, sipping some water... ** | |
| [04:46:00] | ** poop offers PickleS some brine ** | |
| [04:46:00] | kormoc: | poop, 163 Tappan Street |
| [04:47:00] | kormoc: | http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=x.org |
| [04:47:00] | PickleS: | deebus: for the sound you need to check your audio works (outside of myth), using alsa or other, (not used knoppmyth so don't know what it uses prolly alsa), anyway, in the frontend setup make sure the output audio is set to the correct device, something along the lines of /dev/dsp etc. or alsa:xxxx, whichever your system is setup to |
| [04:48:00] | poop: | about a 5-minute walk |
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| [04:48:00] | PickleS: | deebus: for the video... (channel tuning) there's a list of things it could , have you tuned the channels yet? |
| [04:49:00] | ** PickleS points out that it could be as simple as the antenna not being plugged in... hehe :P ** | |
| [04:50:00] | PickleS: | deebus: bad reception... etc...etc..etc.. |
| [04:50:00] | Krazylegz: | Doh. Tried to remove ivtv while I was recording. :-) |
| [04:50:00] | PickleS: | lol @ Krazylegz |
| [04:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Indeed. |
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| [04:55:00] | a1fa: | omg |
| [04:55:00] | a1fa: | mythtv has been freezing up on me latelly |
| [04:55:00] | a1fa: | the box just hangs |
| [04:55:00] | ** PickleS stumbles on her bed... geez... last time i'm accepting wine as an xmass pressy ** | |
| [04:55:00] | a1fa: | :(* |
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| [04:58:00] | fallenangel: | if anyone has tvout (svideo) working on a pvr-350, what guide did you use? |
| [04:58:00] | deebus: | tuned the channels = setting up with zap2it, etc? |
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| [04:59:00] | kormoc: | PickleS, was it at least good wine? |
| [05:00:00] | PickleS: | kormoc: yes very... |
| [05:00:00] | ** PickleS has the chuckles... ** | |
| [05:00:00] | kormoc: | So then it's not all bad :) |
| [05:01:00] | PickleS: | deebus: zap2it is to get the channel listings (i don't live in the USofA so not 100% sure) |
| [05:01:00] | a1fa: | i need mythphone |
| [05:01:00] | kormoc: | yeah, it's the us's listing |
| [05:02:00] | a1fa: | anybody using debian |
| [05:02:00] | a1fa: | i cant find mythphone |
| [05:02:00] | a1fa: | in apt |
| [05:03:00] | PickleS: | deebus: you need to "tune" the channels you need to run mythtv-setup (if you don't want to mess about) then under "channel editor" you should find your way around there |
| [05:03:00] | kngartur: | is there a way to use xbox media center to remote control the mythtv backend? I like my xbox as a modded xbox, but would like to be able to remotely set recording and channel tuning on my backend. (not currently running a backend, looking into it and trying to find out which one i need) |
| [05:04:00] | ** PickleS wonders, deebus would probably have needed to do this in the first place to set up the card and various other settings... unless he did it the hard way... mysql ** | |
| [05:04:00] | ** PickleS chuckles ** | |
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| [05:06:00] | kormoc: | PickleS, hehe, given he's not sure what's going on, I'd wager he didn't go the mysql route |
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| [05:08:00] | xris: | kormoc: thanks for that disable_fatal_error stuff today... handy for the changes I had to do to mythweb tonight. heh |
| [05:08:00] | kormoc: | heh, no problems there Mr. Boss Dude Sir. |
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| [05:20:00] | coolgurl4: | does anyone know the status of the color osd for hardware decoding? |
| [05:20:00] | poop: | I got a color osd with xvmc in svn today. |
| [05:20:00] | xris: | kormoc: well, it's your first official mythweb contribution. heh |
| [05:20:00] | DrBair: | has anyone heard any reports on using an ati all-in-wonder radeon with the X.org 7.0? Supposedly it supports TV-out now |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | anybody have mythphone for 0.18–1? |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | debian |
| [05:20:00] | coolgurl4: | poop what is this svn than i hear about? |
| [05:20:00] | kormoc: | xris, Hehe, coolness |
| [05:20:00] | poop: | coolgurl4: If you don't know what svn in, why are you asking about "status?" It's not like 0.18.1 is going to change suddenly. |
| [05:20:00] | poop: | s/in/is/ |
| [05:20:00] | kormoc: | coolgurl4, svn.mythtv.org, it's the code in development |
| [05:20:00] | coolgurl4: | svn=cvs? |
| [05:20:00] | poop: | svn > cvs |
| [05:20:00] | kormoc: | it's a different program, but similar, right |
| [05:20:00] | coolgurl4: | wow, when did that come about? |
| [05:20:00] | kormoc: | a lot of people (including myself_ feel it's better |
| [05:20:00] | poop: | coolgurl4: Some years ago. |
| [05:20:00] | coolgurl4: | when did it come to myth? |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | Err http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu unstable/mythtv Packages |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | 404 Not Found |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | sweet |
| [05:20:00] | kormoc: | coolgurl4, a few months ago |
| [05:20:00] | coolgurl4: | hmm, i was wondering where all the new news was |
| [05:20:00] | poop: | a1fa: The new repository is marillat. |
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| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | poop? |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | what does that mean |
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| [05:20:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v Beirdo | |
| [05:20:00] | poop: | a1fa: It's where you get everything else mythtv needs. |
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| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | really? |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | since when? |
| [05:20:00] | poop: | past few weeks |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | Get:4 ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid/main mythplugins 0.18.1–4 [3524B] |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | god knows what i apt-got |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | OMFG |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | OMFG |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | NEW KERNEL UPDATES |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | this sucks asshole |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | literally |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | i need to recompile everything again |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | hehee |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | which will take, what, two minutes/ |
| [05:20:00] | poop: | module-assistant makes that a breeze |
| [05:20:00] | poop: | except for old-ass shit that won't build against modern kernels |
| [05:20:00] | poop: | You know, the kind of stuff that debian specializes in. |
| [05:20:00] | PickleS: | if it aint a kernel security update .... you may want to hold back on the new kernel.... just a pov |
| [05:20:00] | kormoc: | a1fa, wow, you're quite... swearish arntcha |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | hopefully this kernel will fix my freeze-ups |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | PickleS: my box just locks up with the previous kernel |
| [05:20:00] | kormoc: | a1fa, when does your hardware ever work? |
| [05:20:00] | deebus: | PickelS: not in US? |
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| [05:20:00] | Krazylegz: | deebus: Looks like she's in the UK. |
| [05:20:00] | PickleS: | hehe correct Krazylegz |
| [05:20:00] | poop: | a1fa: Are you running sid? |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | yup |
| [05:20:00] | deebus: | ah, suppose I could have figured that out with a whois, huh? :-P |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| [05:20:00] | Krazylegz: | deebus: I did. ;-) |
| [05:20:00] | deebus: | heh |
| [05:20:00] | poop: | bleeding edge |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | literally |
| [05:20:00] | kormoc: | uk eh? how's that working out for ya? |
| [05:21:00] | poop: | I keep trying to run ubububu to get away from sarge but I keep coming back. |
| [05:21:00] | deebus: | get away from sarge...is that like going AWOL? :-P |
| [05:21:00] | a1fa: | i am not a big fan of ubuntu |
| [05:21:00] | deebus: | aye, nor I |
| [05:21:00] | a1fa: | some asshole runs it in a cube behind me |
| [05:22:00] | Beirdo: | you both are tards :) |
| [05:22:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [05:22:00] | Draal: | Howdy.. Been considering a MythTV box and was curious about the follow... 1) Are DVDs ripped in a lossless manner (perhaps ISO files or the like, but keeping the menus and other features intact)? 2) Is it possible to use the offline FreeDB data file for labeling CD's? 3) Possible to do the same for the DVD database listing? |
| [05:22:00] | a1fa: | Beirdo: hi sexy |
| [05:22:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh, random distro bashing. |
| [05:22:00] | Draal: | Debian sucks |
| [05:22:00] | a1fa: | Draal: so does your mom |
| [05:22:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [05:22:00] | a1fa: | that makes two of them |
| [05:23:00] | Beirdo: | gentoo swallows |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | well.. so much for that |
| [05:23:00] | Draal: | YellowDog is only good enough for PPC machines |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | the box didnt come back up |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | after the newest update |
| [05:23:00] | ** PickleS sleps Draal, debian... out freind.. ** | |
| [05:23:00] | PickleS: | our even |
| [05:23:00] | ** kormoc likes Gentoo. ** | |
| [05:23:00] | ** Draal uses Debian ** | |
| [05:24:00] | kormoc: | it's the best of the bunch for my wants/needs. |
| [05:24:00] | a1fa: | nice |
| [05:24:00] | a1fa: | i managed to get a bad kernel |
| [05:24:00] | a1fa: | ;* |
| [05:24:00] | a1fa: | its stuck after loading linux.... |
| [05:24:00] | a1fa: | i dont know if it is lilo who took a crap |
| [05:24:00] | kormoc: | a1fa, god help us if your hardware works, cause I swear, it will be one of the signs of the end of the world |
| [05:24:00] | a1fa: | or linux image some fucktard compiled while masturbating |
| [05:24:00] | kormoc: | gee... thanks for the image... |
| [05:24:00] | Draal: | So can you use the offline FreeDB database for CD labeling? |
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| [05:25:00] | Draal: | I'm considering setting up a MythTV box for DVD/Music archiving |
| [05:25:00] | Draal: | So everything would need to be kept offline |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | Draal: good for yotu |
| [05:25:00] | kormoc: | Honestly, I really wouldn't say myth was suited for that |
| [05:26:00] | Draal: | Kormoc, are there any alternatives then? Haven't fallen upon anything better |
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| [05:26:00] | kormoc: | Draal, I don't really know of any, but myth really is designed for tv, the video/music stuff is rather... clunky |
| [05:28:00] | Draal: | There isn't anything even remotely as user friend or as supported as MythTV |
| [05:28:00] | Draal: | Is it possible to rip the entire DVD onto the hard drive? Menus and all? |
| [05:29:00] | kormoc: | not with a bit perfect rip, no |
| [05:29:00] | deebus: | a1fa: you found the image I compiled! |
| [05:29:00] | kormoc: | Draal, you see, the reader needs hardware level access to the device to get the keys to decode the video, so you would need to decss the movie, and then it should be right. |
| [05:30:00] | Draal: | Guess there arn't any automated tools for that.. |
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| [05:32:00] | Krazylegz: | Beirdo: Feeling better? |
| [05:32:00] | Beirdo: | a bit |
| [05:32:00] | Beirdo: | not much |
| [05:32:00] | DanielHolth: | hey there. I'd like advice on fixing nuvexport synch problems |
| [05:32:00] | DanielHolth: | the encoded video has bad a/v sync |
| [05:33:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm getting sick too. :-( |
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| [05:33:00] | Vermyndax: | good evening... I'm having trouble with mythtv and my audigy 2zs card |
| [05:33:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, that's sucky... get the rest of the lug sick for me and tell them marry christmas, okay? :P |
| [05:34:00] | Vermyndax: | it seems that the suggestions in the docs to mute the line-in and set it as the capture source do not fix my problem... it mutes the sound, but that's it... and I cannot select line-in as my capture source... only analog mix |
| [05:34:00] | deebus: | so pvr-500s have to be treated like two 150s, right? |
| [05:34:00] | kormoc: | Vermyndax, select it in where? |
| [05:34:00] | kormoc: | deebus, yes |
| [05:35:00] | Vermyndax: | kormoc: I tried selecting it in alsamixer |
| [05:35:00] | deebus: | ok, so tuner0 for video0 and video1, right? |
| [05:35:00] | kormoc: | Vermyndax, what's the sound card? |
| [05:35:00] | kormoc: | deebus, tuner0 for video0 and tuner1 for video1 |
| [05:35:00] | Vermyndax: | at first I did alsamixer -V all as the docs suggested, but then I tried just alsamixer -V capture and line-in isn't listed as a possible capture source |
| [05:35:00] | Vermyndax: | kormoc: audigy 2 ZS |
| [05:35:00] | kormoc: | odd... |
| [05:35:00] | deebus: | hm...possibly a problem...:-) |
| [05:35:00] | poop: | oh crap: http://www.technewsworld.com/rsstory/47939.html |
| [05:36:00] | AndyCap: | very important piece of legislation that will promote more consumer choice as it protects copyright owners in the digital age. |
| [05:36:00] | AndyCap: | poop: hehe, lovely isn't it? |
| [05:36:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [05:36:00] | Beirdo: | who cares |
| [05:36:00] | Beirdo: | we have no rights as we don't have enough money to have rights |
| [05:36:00] | Beirdo: | learn to live with it :) |
| [05:37:00] | Vermyndax: | kormoc: indeed in windows, when I have to capture, I have to capture from analog mix, not line in |
| [05:37:00] | kormoc: | you can pry my rights from my cold, dead *bullet in the head curtisty of the mpaa* |
| [05:37:00] | Vermyndax: | kormoc: but I do have to mute line-in |
| [05:37:00] | deebus: | the pvr 500s do mpeg2, not mpeg4, right? |
| [05:37:00] | kormoc: | deebus, correct |
| [05:37:00] | deebus: | k |
| [05:37:00] | kormoc: | Vermyndax, that's fine, as long as you mute the capture channel playback, it should work, no matter what odd setting you need to set to capture |
| [05:38:00] | Vermyndax: | kormoc: but when mythtv starts, I get no audio |
| [05:38:00] | kormoc: | Vermyndax, what tv card? |
| [05:38:00] | Vermyndax: | kormoc: leadtek winfast tv deluxe 2000 |
| [05:38:00] | Vermyndax: | works fine in tvtime |
| [05:38:00] | Vermyndax: | card=34, tuner =2 |
| [05:38:00] | Draal: | Anyone know any good dedicated Jukebox software for CD and DVD ripping? |
| [05:38:00] | kormoc: | Vermyndax, you might be able to use the bttvaudio driver and get the audio directly from the card |
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| [05:39:00] | Vermyndax: | kormoc: any tips on that? |
| [05:39:00] | Vermyndax: | kormoc: modprobe btaudio? |
| [05:39:00] | kormoc: | Vermyndax, just load up the driver, it shows up as a second soundcard, and then have myth use it. yup, btaudio |
| [05:39:00] | kormoc: | Vermyndax, dmesg should show if it's loading |
| [05:39:00] | Beirdo: | assuming that card has btaudio |
| [05:40:00] | Beirdo: | which I dunno if it does |
| [05:40:00] | Vermyndax: | well, it uses bt878 so we can hope |
| [05:40:00] | Beirdo: | if it works in tvtime, it will work in myth |
| [05:40:00] | Beirdo: | it's all mixer settings after that |
| [05:40:00] | Vermyndax: | Beirdo: that doesn't appear to be the case though ;) |
| [05:41:00] | Vermyndax: | I started down this road because I had the audio/video out of sync problem |
| [05:41:00] | Beirdo: | well, keep fiddling the mixer |
| [05:41:00] | coolgurl4: | is writing a translation of mythweb difficult? |
| [05:41:00] | Beirdo: | I used one of those cards forever |
| [05:41:00] | Vermyndax: | Beirdo: that's why I'm here – I fiddled with the mixer according to all the suggestions I ran across |
| [05:41:00] | kormoc: | coolgurl4, you should talk to xris about that, but it shouldn't be. |
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| [05:41:00] | Vermyndax: | kormoc: how would I tell mythtv to use btaudio |
| [05:41:00] | coolgurl4: | what about the frontend? |
| [05:42:00] | kormoc: | Vermyndax, dmesg to see if it loaded |
| [05:42:00] | Beirdo: | Vermyndax, what sound card, what drivers? |
| [05:42:00] | coolgurl4: | and does either support right to left text |
| [05:42:00] | Beirdo: | I don't do ALSA, so don't bother with that with me, kormoc would have to help there :) |
| [05:42:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [05:42:00] | kormoc: | his mixer is odd it would seem |
| [05:42:00] | Beirdo: | coolgurl4, not much supports right to left that I've seen |
| [05:43:00] | Beirdo: | planning on translating to Hebrew? |
| [05:43:00] | Vermyndax: | Beirdo: SB Audigy 2 ZS, using emu10k1 in kernel 2.6.12–10 (Ubuntu) |
| [05:43:00] | deebus: | ok, so now I try to retrieve lineups, and I'm getting nothing...user ID and Password are correct |
| [05:43:00] | Beirdo: | Vermyndax, oh good luck |
| [05:43:00] | Beirdo: | there is some sort of trick with the Audigy, but I don't remember what it was |
| [05:43:00] | Vermyndax: | Beirdo: the docs say to mute line-in and set it as capture – I cannot set line-in as capture... |
| [05:43:00] | Beirdo: | someone found it once |
| [05:43:00] | coolgurl4: | Beirdo, um, no, farsi |
| [05:44:00] | Beirdo: | get a better sound card :) |
| [05:44:00] | kormoc: | ooh! Persian! |
| [05:44:00] | Beirdo: | coolgurl4, ahh :) cool |
| [05:44:00] | coolgurl4: | Beirdo it's like the only way i could contribute |
| [05:44:00] | Vermyndax: | heh this is a very nice sound card ;) |
| [05:44:00] | Beirdo: | Vermyndax, not for what you are trying to use it for it ain't |
| [05:44:00] | coolgurl4: | kormoc yeah |
| [05:44:00] | Vermyndax: | audigy2 routes the analog sources through a single mixer line |
| [05:44:00] | poop: | snd_bt87x is nice and clean if you're using the capture card's tuner |
| [05:44:00] | Vermyndax: | kormoc: how do I tell mythtv to use btaudio? |
| [05:44:00] | Beirdo: | I don't think his card supports btaudio or snd_bt87x |
| [05:45:00] | poop: | the analog in on my bttv card is useless |
| [05:45:00] | kormoc: | coolgurl4, I'm gonna butcher this... Haletun Chetoreh? |
| [05:45:00] | DanielHolth: | yeah it's tough, you get the btaudio device but you can count yourself lucky if it's connected to everything |
| [05:45:00] | kormoc: | Vermyndax, dmesg should tell you what device it loaded, and then point myth to capture off of that |
| [05:45:00] | coolgurl4: | kormoc khoobam merci |
| [05:45:00] | deebus: | anyone know why I can't retrieve lineups? |
| [05:45:00] | Beirdo: | your best bet is to get a non-Audigy sound card :) |
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| [05:45:00] | a1fa: | night |
| [05:46:00] | a1fa: | i am so pissed off |
| [05:46:00] | kormoc: | coolgurl4, hehe, that's all I know :) |
| [05:46:00] | a1fa: | i downloaded bad kernel image |
| [05:46:00] | poop: | Vermyndax: You have a recent alsa? |
| [05:46:00] | Vermyndax: | njnjelwr |
| [05:46:00] | Vermyndax: | doh |
| [05:46:00] | a1fa: | hopefully those mother fuckers fix it tomorrow |
| [05:46:00] | Beirdo: | but if you really wanna use it, you'll have to tweak something. I know people have done it |
| [05:46:00] | a1fa: | night |
| [05:46:00] | Vermyndax: | poop: yeah |
| [05:46:00] | coolgurl4: | kormoc really? |
| [05:46:00] | poop: | a1fa: unstable is UN-STABLE |
| [05:46:00] | Vermyndax: | kormoc: it just says the btaudio driver loaded |
| [05:47:00] | coolgurl4: | kormoc you know arabic or pashto or dari? |
| [05:47:00] | kormoc: | coolgurl4, yeah. One of my really good friends here is Persian, and he teaches me a little here and there, tho, he's taught me much more about the Persian style cooking then the language. |
| [05:47:00] | poop: | Modern sound cards do so much stuff, it's hard to figure them out in a mixer, and alsa docs are just shockingly inadequate. |
| [05:47:00] | kormoc: | Vermyndax, see if you have any new devices in /dev/sound/ |
| [05:47:00] | deebus: | kormoc: any idea why I can't retrieve lineups now? |
| [05:47:00] | Beirdo: | if the soundcard can't even do a "mixer" normally, it's useless to me |
| [05:47:00] | coolgurl4: | kormoc oh yes, persian food, chello kabob |
| [05:47:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [05:48:00] | poop: | Vermy: btaudio will tell you if it created new devices in dmesg |
| [05:48:00] | Vermyndax: | kormoc: heheh... don't even have a /dev/sound |
| [05:48:00] | kormoc: | coolgurl4, I'm a huge fan of Khorsht Karaf as well. |
| [05:48:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, bed |
| [05:48:00] | Beirdo: | night all |
| [05:48:00] | ** PickleS getting hungry, with the mention of farsi foods... ** | |
| [05:48:00] | coolgurl4: | kormoc hmm i've prolly had that before |
| [05:48:00] | kormoc: | coolgurl4, if that's spelled right. The Celery Stew with the lemon base. |
| [05:48:00] | PickleS is now known as PicklAWAY | |
| [05:49:00] | kormoc: | PicklAWAY, enjoy! |
| [05:49:00] | kormoc: | Vermyndax, I'd say it doesn't work then, sorry |
| [05:49:00] | poop: | I should find a Persian restaurant. |
| [05:49:00] | coolgurl4: | poop where you live? |
| [05:49:00] | Vermyndax: | kormoc: tvtime claims it is using device "/dev/mixer:line" |
| [05:49:00] | poop: | Boston |
| [05:49:00] | kormoc: | deebus, sadly, I don't really know. you signed up at labs.zap2it.com and not the main one? |
| [05:49:00] | coolgurl4: | hmm |
| [05:49:00] | Vermyndax: | kormoc: which is fine because that picks it straight up off the pipe |
| [05:49:00] | kormoc: | Vermyndax, huh... Might want to google a bit |
| [05:49:00] | Vermyndax: | kormoc: but myth won't accept /dev/mixer:line, only /dev/mixer |
| [05:50:00] | deebus: | yes, labs.zap2it.com |
| [05:50:00] | kormoc: | coolgurl4, so where abouts are you? |
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| [05:50:00] | coolgurl4: | kormoc seaside ca |
| [05:51:00] | kormoc: | Coolness |
| [05:51:00] | xris: | coolgurl4: take a look at the language files in mythweb (please use svn, not .18) |
| [05:51:00] | poop: | Vermandyx: I wouldn't let mythtv dick with the mixer via oss emulation. It does weird shit. |
| [05:51:00] | coolgurl4: | xris all righty, would it support an arabic font? |
| [05:51:00] | poop: | Qt should have unicode goodness, right? |
| [05:52:00] | xris: | has nothing to do with fonts.. that's up to the browser encoding to choose which font to display the characters in. |
| [05:52:00] | Vermyndax: | hmm... I see a post where someone ran the line from the tv card to the mic input of the sound card instead of line |
| [05:52:00] | xris: | japanese works fine, though |
| [05:52:00] | Vermyndax: | that's an interesting solution |
| [05:52:00] | deebus: | ugh. I'm giving up for tonight. see you all later, perhaps |
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| [05:53:00] | xris: | coolgurl4: all you'd need to do is copy English.php to Farsi.php (right?) and set the encoding/locale, and then provide translations for the various strings. |
| [05:53:00] | coolgurl4: | xris all righty, so it's pretty easy? |
| [05:53:00] | poop: | Vermyn: Did btaudio say anything in dmesg? |
| [05:53:00] | xris: | then just attach it to a ticket at http://svn.mythtv.org |
| [05:53:00] | Vermyndax: | poop: no it didn't |
| [05:53:00] | xris: | coolgurl4: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . /English.php |
| [05:53:00] | poop: | Vermynd: Is snd_bt87x already loaded? |
| [05:54:00] | xris: | I wrote my own translation engine for mythweb because I didn't like any of the available options... tried to make it as easy as possible for translators |
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| [05:54:00] | coolgurl4: | xris cool, piece of cak |
| [05:54:00] | Vermyndax: | poop: no |
| [05:55:00] | coolgurl4: | xris i'm pretty sure i will have to do it at a later time, i wonder if it would even be worth it |
| [05:55:00] | xris: | if you leave a string blank, it will stay as the original one. can take a look at other files (I think swedish and japanese are the most maintained) for how other people use it. |
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| [05:55:00] | xris: | would be kind of cool... more languages are always always good, imho. |
| [05:56:00] | coolgurl4: | xris yeah and it's all i can really do |
| [05:56:00] | xris: | I keep wishing people would send me updates to the existing translations. I'd fix up the spanish one myself, but my written spanish sucks. |
| [05:56:00] | AlienBaby: | question about remote control |
| [05:56:00] | AlienBaby: | I can't figure out why my remote works I want to break it.. |
| [05:56:00] | poop: | mmm, dark chocolate brownies |
| [05:56:00] | kormoc: | AlienBaby, throw it at the wall |
| [05:56:00] | AlienBaby: | I remote works without lircd |
| [05:57:00] | coolgurl4: | xris yeah i'm still learning farsi, but i could do my best |
| [05:57:00] | xris: | well, I have yet to meet a persian mythtv user, but you never know who's out there. |
| [05:57:00] | mchou: | coolgurl4: where are you learning farsi? |
| [05:57:00] | xris: | I think urdu or hindi would be cool, too. or even arabic. |
| [05:57:00] | AlienBaby: | I thought it might be DVB.. but I recompiled without DVB and it still works.. |
| [05:57:00] | mchou: | xris: do they even have tv there? :) |
| [05:58:00] | AlienBaby: | I have a PVR 350 |
| [05:58:00] | coolgurl4: | xris i got some buds learning arabic |
| [05:58:00] | poop: | bah, learn an old language |
| [05:58:00] | xris: | mchou: in iran? not much. |
| [05:58:00] | coolgurl4: | mchou dliflc |
| [05:58:00] | xris: | poop: arabic's not old? or urdu? or hindi? |
| [05:58:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: Hmm. Bollywood movie summaries in Hindi.... |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | xris: no, india |
| [05:58:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: hindustani, actually. ;) |
| [05:58:00] | kormoc: | xris, hrm. I wonder if I should cook the turkey tomorrow night and just count on the microwaves to heat it up... |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | iran has plenty of tv. I lived there |
| [05:58:00] | poop: | xris: not the oldest |
| [05:58:00] | coolgurl4: | bed time |
| [05:59:00] | xris: | mchou: in india? you do know they're more into movies and the such than anywhere else, right? |
| [05:59:00] | ** PickleS looking at the urls... might have an arabic one soon.. ** | |
| [05:59:00] | AlienBaby: | How does a remote work on a PVR 350 with lircd? |
| [05:59:00] | coolgurl4: | mchou you persian? |
| [05:59:00] | xris: | poop: oldest would be... linear A? |
| [05:59:00] | mchou: | coolgurl4: nope. |
| [05:59:00] | ** xris chuckles... "chou" isn't exactly a persian surname. ** | |
| [05:59:00] | mchou: | coolgurl4: haley shoma? |
| [05:59:00] | coolgurl4: | mchou you know persian |
| [05:59:00] | Vermyndax: | thanks for the help all |
| [05:59:00] | xris: | AlienBaby: presumably with the hauppauge remote module |
| [06:00:00] | coolgurl4: | mchou ah khoobam merci |
| [06:00:00] | Vermyndax: | have a good night |
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| [06:00:00] | coolgurl4: | mchou va shoma? |
| [06:00:00] | poop: | xris: dravidian languages are pretty old |
| [06:00:00] | AlienBaby: | is it lircd or ir_kbd_i2c? |
| [06:00:00] | AlienBaby: | one or the other? |
| [06:00:00] | mchou: | coolgurl4: answers that question :) |
| [06:00:00] | AlienBaby: | but not both? |
| [06:00:00] | mchou: | coolgurl4: you in monterey? |
| [06:00:00] | coolgurl4: | mchou bale |
| [06:01:00] | mchou: | coolgurl4: nice. |
| [06:01:00] | xris: | poop: so tamil, then... |
| [06:01:00] | mchou: | coolgurl4: you gotta go live in Iran for a while. I was there when the Shah got the boot |
| [06:01:00] | coolgurl4: | mchou shoma eenja boodayeed? |
| [06:01:00] | poop: | xris: That's one I hear a lot ... :) |
| [06:01:00] | AlienBaby: | ? |
| [06:01:00] | xris: | hindi would be easier for me, though... would rather learn arabic, though. sanskrit would be even more fun, even though it's not a real language. |
| [06:01:00] | coolgurl4: | yeah |
| [06:02:00] | mchou: | coolgurl4: Tehran is a BLAST |
| [06:02:00] | coolgurl4: | yeah |
| [06:02:00] | coolgurl4: | its pretty |
| [06:02:00] | mchou: | coolgurl4: I have very fond memories of that city. |
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| [06:02:00] | mchou: | and also persiopolis |
| [06:02:00] | coolgurl4: | yup yup |
| [06:02:00] | mchou: | however that's spelled.... |
| [06:02:00] | ** xris wishes he could have traveled more in the middle east. ** | |
| [06:03:00] | coolgurl4: | haha yeah, are you pretty fluent in farsi then? |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | those ruins are mighty cool |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | coolgurl4: nahe, baboh :) |
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| [06:03:00] | coolgurl4: | yeah |
| [06:03:00] | kormoc: | I keep pondering tring to visit Iran. I sorta got the hookup now. |
| [06:03:00] | xris: | AlienBaby: looks like no one here at the moment really knows much about lir |
| [06:03:00] | xris: | lirc |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | coolgurl4: forgot most of it. |
| [06:04:00] | coolgurl4: | haha yeah |
| [06:04:00] | coolgurl4: | bed time |
| [06:04:00] | xris: | kormoc: that's true.. definitely the way to do it. go with someone who knows the area, has family there, etc. |
| [06:04:00] | coolgurl4: | later |
| [06:04:00] | ** kormoc nods. ** | |
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| [06:04:00] | coolgurl4: | xris most of the persians that i know here are not welcome back |
| [06:04:00] | mchou: | coolgurl4: huh?? |
| [06:05:00] | xris: | that's how my wife did turkey. went with a turkish friend and stayed with his grandparents, etc... |
| [06:05:00] | Krazylegz: | Great. Upgraded to ivtv 0.4.1 and......still getting static in some channels. |
| [06:05:00] | mchou: | coolgurl4: oh, you mean back to iran..... |
| [06:05:00] | xris: | coolgurl4: sort of makes sense, depending on why they're here. |
| [06:05:00] | kormoc: | coolgurl4, yeah, I know one persian here who isn't welcome back to iran, but I know a lot more who go back often (once or twice a year) |
| [06:05:00] | kormoc: | coolgurl4, and I've been told I'm more then welcome to go with them sometime. |
| [06:05:00] | xris: | a lot of muslims claim "conversion" as the reason to request asylum in the US. |
| [06:06:00] | mchou: | coolgurl4: all those persians with lost passports :) |
| [06:06:00] | xris: | gets easy residency since converts FROM islam can be killed if they try to return. |
| [06:07:00] | mchou: | xris: well, I dunno what the situation is like now, but I doubt if that's the case in iran |
| [06:07:00] | xris: | kormoc: jes says you can join us on friday making truffles if you help smash chocolate. |
| [06:07:00] | kormoc: | xris, sounds good, shall I bring any heavy objects? |
| [06:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Silly Freenode. |
| [06:08:00] | xris: | mchou: depends on how strict of a region they're from. it's one of the few things that the koran says should be punishable by death... unforgivable sin or something like that (I used to know the whole list, but that's the only one that stuck) |
| [06:08:00] | kormoc: | I can look it up if you want... I have the koran next to me :P |
| [06:08:00] | xris: | kormoc: no, we have all the necessary tools. |
| [06:08:00] | kormoc: | well |
| [06:08:00] | xris: | kormoc: my grad school notes would probably be easier to sift through. heh |
| [06:08:00] | kormoc: | I have the holy Qur'an |
| [06:08:00] | mchou: | xris: bah. like fundamentalist christians and ID in biology class :) |
| [06:09:00] | Krazylegz: | Dover, PA is right near here. |
| [06:09:00] | mchou: | Iran was nowhere as fundamentalist as Saudi Arabia |
| [06:09:00] | xris: | well, it's used as an excuse for asylum... one of my profs was often called into court to testify that it could be the case that people would be stoned if they returned home as christians. |
| [06:09:00] | kormoc: | sadly, I'm only 50 pages into it. It's almost 50% subnotes on the translation or points. |
| [06:09:00] | xris: | kormoc: you should read my good translation of the kamasutra next. much more entertaining. |
| [06:10:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: you live in that county? |
| [06:10:00] | Krazylegz: | mchou: I'm not sure if Dover is in this county or one over, actually. I just moved here. |
| [06:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, Dover is one county over. |
| [06:10:00] | xris: | too bad the book came out after my class with the author... I have all kinds of fun notes from the manuscript that I don't think made it into the book |
| [06:10:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [06:11:00] | ** xris misses grad school... but not chicago ** | |
| [06:11:00] | mchou: | xris: bah. that's nothing. Try claiming you're Bahai in Iran. |
| [06:11:00] | mchou: | xris: that's almost like declaring yourself Jewish in Nazi Germany |
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| [06:12:00] | kormoc: | Iran is quite... strict still |
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| [06:12:00] | Kichigai: | Hey, can I get some help with my XF86Config-4 file? |
| [06:12:00] | xris: | mchou: sounds lousy... |
| [06:12:00] | kormoc: | When Bizhan takes Ellie over, they can't be seen in public holding hands or anything or else she will get arrested. |
| [06:12:00] | Kichigai: | It's been ages since I've edited one. |
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| [06:13:00] | xris: | Kichigai: why not using xorg? heh |
| [06:13:00] | Kichigai: | xris, I'm using KnoppMyth |
| [06:13:00] | xris: | ah, guess they haven't updated it yet. |
| [06:13:00] | Kichigai: | No, doesn't look like it. |
| [06:13:00] | xris: | kormoc: that sucks. men holding hands with men ok, but with women is bad? or is it because she's white? |
| [06:13:00] | kormoc: | she's white |
| [06:13:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [06:13:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: it's a good thing dover exists to set precedent |
| [06:14:00] | Krazylegz: | I suppose. |
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| [06:15:00] | Kichigai: | Well, that was interesting. |
| [06:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Still no logbot. |
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| [06:15:00] | kormoc: | niceness |
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| [06:15:00] | Krazylegz: | There he is. |
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| [06:15:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: judge Jones is now my hero :) |
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| [06:15:00] | Kichigai: | So can someone help me fix my XF86Config-4 file? |
| [06:16:00] | Krazylegz: | mchou: To be honest, I didn't read too much about the whole incident. Been away from the news lately. |
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| [06:16:00] | xris: | Kichigai: what's wrong with it? |
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| [06:16:00] | Kichigai: | xris, Well, it's totally unviewable. |
| [06:16:00] | Kichigai: | Flickering beyond imagination. |
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| [06:16:00] | Kichigai: | Total distortion |
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| [06:16:00] | Krazylegz: | I pulled up cnn.com the other day, say the way they worded the headline, got pissed off, left again. |
| [06:16:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: You ought to read his decision. A masterpiece |
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| [06:17:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: huh?? |
| [06:17:00] | mchou: | the headline pissed you off? |
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| [06:17:00] | Krazylegz: | It was the story about the guy in California who was being executed. |
| [06:17:00] | xris: | Kichigai: on tv, monitor, ??? |
| [06:17:00] | xris: | Beirdo: control your pet |
| [06:17:00] | kormoc: | xris, yeah, oddly enough, Iran really doesn't like having white people over there, and even less so if they are dating. |
| [06:17:00] | Kichigai: | xris, Monitor |
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| [06:18:00] | Krazylegz: | I didn't like the way they worded it. I guess the guy was upset that they couldn't find his vein for the injection, but the way CNN put it, it sounded like the guy was being tortured. Totally unnecessary to state it that way. |
| [06:18:00] | Kichigai: | I've used this monitor on other PCs, so I know it's not b0rk'd, and it operates fine in text mode. |
| [06:18:00] | xris: | kormoc: strange, thought it would be more religion-oriented than skin-color... plenty of white muslims in the world. |
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| [06:18:00] | xris: | Kichigai: X -configure |
| [06:18:00] | kormoc: | xris, it might be more that she's a white non muslim, and that's even worse |
| [06:18:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: lol, it is torture if they have to prick you many times with poison |
| [06:19:00] | xris: | kormoc: that would be, yes. |
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| [06:19:00] | Krazylegz: | If I had killed 4 people, I think I being poked with a needle a few times and then killed painlessly would be fair enough. |
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| [06:20:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: well, he maintains he didn't commit those 4 murders :) |
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| [06:20:00] | Krazylegz: | Which do you believe, him, or a court of law? |
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| [06:20:00] | Krazylegz: | Doesn't matter who was right. ;-) |
| [06:21:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: at this point I wouldnt be too sure |
| [06:21:00] | mchou: | plenty of "mistakes" on death row |
| [06:21:00] | mchou: | too many exonerations by new DNA analysis |
| [06:23:00] | PickleS: | maybe the US should "liberate" the thousands on deathrow, and create an independant country.... *quickly hiding from retorts* |
| [06:23:00] | mchou: | I'm not saying Williams was innocent..... |
| [06:23:00] | Krazylegz: | I'll have to take your word for it. Like I said, I don't read the news, so I can't argue with you. |
| [06:26:00] | fith: | From what I've read in the "undissputed" parts of the case, they loaded up on guns, smoked PCP, and drove up to the store to rob it... after that he disputes what happened, but depending on where you are, that's enough |
| [06:31:00] | Kichigai: | xris, your solution helped, but it didn't. |
| [06:31:00] | mchou: | here is more pertinent news: http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004261.php |
| [06:31:00] | Kichigai: | XF86 starts now, but MythTV refuses to function. |
| [06:32:00] | Kichigai: | The front-end, and mythtv-setup both segfault. |
| [06:32:00] | mchou: | a-hole bill :) |
| [06:32:00] | ** fith mutters about the analog hole and makes references to other holes ** | |
| [06:32:00] | fith: | Heh, yeah, exactly |
| [06:33:00] | Kichigai: | I'll plug *your* analog hole. |
| [06:33:00] | mchou: | this dude Sensenbrenner gets on my nerves |
| [06:33:00] | fith: | A shill is a shill is a shill |
| [06:33:00] | mchou: | first the illigal aliens/drivers license and now a-hole |
| [06:34:00] | mchou: | they dude is a racist and a shill. |
| [06:34:00] | mchou: | guess the only color he likes is green |
| [06:35:00] | AndyCap: | mchou: well, if green is wrong, why isn't there a law against it? |
| [06:35:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [06:36:00] | Kichigai: | Can ANYONE help me with my x11 problem? |
| [06:36:00] | mchou: | AndyCap: cvause Congress gets to make the laws? |
| [06:37:00] | AndyCap: | mchou: :> |
| [06:38:00] | mchou: | AndyCap: I refer you to Jack Abramoff |
| [06:38:00] | ** xris wonders what the windows-using mythweb servers will do about his latest code... forcing symlinks for mythweb's mythvideo stuff. ** | |
| [06:39:00] | mchou: | xris: haha |
| [06:39:00] | mchou: | windows has soft links :) |
| [06:42:00] | xris: | yeah. but php can't auto-create them |
| [06:42:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: Is that not maybe the best way to do it? |
| [06:42:00] | Krazylegz: | Er, maybe not the best way? |
| [06:42:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: screw the windows users. heh. |
| [06:42:00] | xris: | actually.... |
| [06:43:00] | xris: | I'm torn between automatically setting up the symlinks and other data directories and requiring people to install them by hand... |
| [06:43:00] | xris: | would rather people do as little setup work as possible. |
| [06:43:00] | AndyCap: | xris: I thought only Bill got to screw them |
| [06:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker. |
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| [06:44:00] | ** xris can't even make a bad joke now that his wife has an ibook ** | |
| [06:44:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, depends on how good Candy looks in her little black dress. |
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| [06:45:00] | kormoc: | http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/linux/7aa2/images/1302/ <-- haha |
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| [06:45:00] | mchou: | Tux looks like homer |
| [06:45:00] | mchou: | same head shape |
| [06:46:00] | mchou: | same belly shape |
| [06:47:00] | Krazylegz: | kormoc: I see you're too cool for #lanc-lug after hours. |
| [06:47:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, actually, it's more cause noone talks in there after hours |
| [06:48:00] | mchou: | I gotta say NFS MW is rather addictive |
| [06:49:00] | Krazylegz: | There's plenty of "escher: boot." and "Eaciv: boot." |
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| [06:51:00] | Krazylegz: | Still not sure what to do about this static. |
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| [06:52:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, well... maybe I'll start hanging out in there again |
| [06:57:00] | ** xris kicks mythvideo for not supporting different mountpoints for different machines. ** | |
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| [06:58:00] | ** kormoc ponders growing little triops at work ** | |
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| [06:59:00] | xris: | triops? |
| [06:59:00] | kormoc: | http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/madscientist/75ab/ |
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| [07:03:00] | laga: | they aren't that exciting. |
| [07:03:00] | kormoc: | they don't swim around? |
| [07:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe they would make good bait. |
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| [07:04:00] | laga: | kormoc: they do. but they're boring. they didn't dance for me! |
| [07:06:00] | laga: | but those in thinkgeek seem to be larger than mine. could be fun, though |
| [07:06:00] | kormoc: | hehe, they might give me nightmares :P |
| [07:07:00] | laga: | hehe ;) |
| [07:07:00] | kormoc: | ahh! FACE HUGGGER!!! on wait... it's a swimmy pet thing! AHH!!! SWIMMY PET THING!!! |
| [07:07:00] | laga: | there was a watch designed for those triops. you could put up to three of them in there and carry them with you on your wrist |
| [07:07:00] | laga: | kormoc: hehe. creepy! |
| [07:17:00] | Krazylegz: | Wow, it's late. |
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| [07:19:00] | ** xris stops playing with mythweb... probably pissing off windows-users everywhere. ** | |
| [07:19:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [07:19:00] | Kichigai: | OK, I got my XF86 fixed, and configured MythTV, but I'm having problems getting Mythbackend to start |
| [07:19:00] | Kichigai: | root@mythtv:~# mythbackend |
| [07:19:00] | Kichigai: | 2005-12–22 01:17:43.836 New DB connection, total: 1 |
| [07:19:00] | Kichigai: | Starting up as the master server. |
| [07:19:00] | Kichigai: | 2005-12–22 01:17:43.883 New DB connection, total: 2 |
| [07:19:00] | Kichigai: | 2005-12–22 01:17:43.915 New DB connection, total: 3 |
| [07:19:00] | Kichigai: | 2005-12–22 01:17:44.262 New DB scheduler connection |
| [07:19:00] | Kichigai: | 2005-12–22 01:17:44.285 mythbackend version: 0.18.1.20050523–1 www.mythtv.org |
| [07:20:00] | Kichigai: | 2005-12–22 01:17:44.287 Enabled verbose msgs : important general |
| [07:20:00] | Kichigai: | Unable to open lockfile! |
| [07:20:00] | Kichigai: | Be sure that '/myth/tv' exists and that both |
| [07:20:00] | Kichigai: | the directory and that file are writeable by this user. |
| [07:20:00] | kormoc: | did you do what it said? and use pastebin.ca in the future please |
| [07:20:00] | Kichigai: | Sorry. |
| [07:21:00] | xris: | Kichigai: /topic |
| [07:22:00] | xris: | hmm, topic's not so explainey about what pastebin.ca is. heh. |
| [07:22:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [07:22:00] | kormoc: | the topic should likely get a little cleaned up :P |
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| [07:24:00] | Kichigai: | Well, can I get some help with this: http://pastebin.ca/34568 |
| [07:24:00] | eiggirC: | okay – how do I kick off a transcode, once the commercials are flagged and the cut points marked? I pressed X and nothing is happening |
| [07:26:00] | eiggirC: | do I have to watch it while it transcodes to remove the ads? |
| [07:26:00] | Kichigai: | There's space free on /myth and /myth/tv esits |
| [07:30:00] | Kichigai: | Can anyone help me with that? |
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| [07:33:00] | dokey: | err, this is probably a weird question |
| [07:34:00] | Kichigai: | And it is? |
| [07:34:00] | dokey: | but does anyone have tv listing file from the saturday dec 3 for Los Angeles? |
| [07:34:00] | Kichigai: | I doubt it. |
| [07:35:00] | Kichigai: | Why do you need that? |
| [07:35:00] | dokey: | I need to look up a description fro something |
| [07:35:00] | dokey: | zap2it no longer has it |
| [07:36:00] | Kichigai: | Why not try TV Tome? |
| [07:36:00] | Kichigai: | You should be able to look up what you need, right? |
| [07:36:00] | dokey: | hmmm |
| [07:38:00] | dokey: | yeah does not help |
| [07:38:00] | ** Kichigai smacks his head against a wall ** | |
| [07:38:00] | Kichigai: | Sorry, my problem with that one. |
| [07:38:00] | dokey: | that sounds like fun |
| [07:38:00] | dokey: | eh? |
| [07:38:00] | Kichigai: | My MythBackend refuses to start. |
| [07:38:00] | dokey: | hmmm |
| [07:38:00] | kormoc: | dokey, what are you tring to look up? |
| [07:39:00] | Kichigai: | It gives me a "no space on device" error, yet there's a gigabyte free |
| [07:39:00] | dokey: | give it a cookie |
| [07:39:00] | dokey: | kormoc: a description for a Blind Date show |
| [07:39:00] | dokey: | yahoo is missing it for some reason |
| [07:39:00] | Kichigai: | If I gave it a cookie, it would need a glass of milk |
| [07:40:00] | dokey: | Kichigai: and that way you can make it to work, but not giving it any, if does not work |
| [07:40:00] | Kichigai: | Yeah, but if I give it milk, then it will need to wipe its face. |
| [07:40:00] | dokey: | Kichigai: it sounds too needy...you should dump it |
| [07:41:00] | Kichigai: | dokey, it's from a book |
| [07:41:00] | Kichigai: | "If you give a mouse a cookie" |
| [07:41:00] | dokey: | Kichigai: hehhehe |
| [07:41:00] | Kichigai: | I'm surprised no one caught that |
| [07:42:00] | Kichigai: | Anyway, my error is at http://pastebin.ca/34568 |
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| [07:44:00] | Kichigai: | I'm totally stumped on what should be an easy to fix problem. |
| [07:45:00] | laga: | make sure you've got write permissions |
| [07:45:00] | laga: | i've gotta run now, bye |
| [07:46:00] | Kichigai: | I'm sure the write permissions exist. |
| [07:47:00] | Kichigai: | I'm sure the KnoppMyth installer would have set them, and I've set them myself just to be sure. |
| [07:47:00] | Kichigai: | Whoa... weird |
| [07:47:00] | dokey: | Kichigai: um...sounds like you run out of space or maybe the permissions are off |
| [07:48:00] | Kichigai: | I guess df is reporting bad output. |
| [07:48:00] | Kichigai: | df -h reports 1.1 gb free, but everything else is reporting "out of space" |
| [07:48:00] | Kichigai: | Hmm, I suppose I should look into that. |
| [07:49:00] | dokey: | fsck it? |
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| [08:02:00] | gpx1000: | Howdy, I'm looking for some help getting my FX6600 to output to both the monitor and the svideo on FC4... need some help |
| [08:02:00] | gpx1000: | The TV shows the console when in run level 3... it flashes when I start X... and the monitor works. |
| [08:02:00] | gpx1000: | http://sh.nu/p/861 |
| [08:03:00] | gpx1000: | that's my xorg.conf file |
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| [11:06:00] | aquarius: | If I have two DVB cards in one mythtv backend, and I have two separate front-ends both watching the same channel, will the backend use the same card to serve both frontends (leaving the other card free for recording) or will it start two sessions, one per front-end, using both cards? |
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| [11:07:00] | cesman: | 1 tuner per frontend |
| [11:08:00] | aquarius: | ah. Even if both frontends are watching the same thing? :( |
| [11:08:00] | cesman: | 1 tuner per frontend |
| [11:08:00] | aquarius: | OK. |
| [11:08:00] | cesman: | :) |
| [11:08:00] | aquarius: | bummer. |
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| [12:10:00] | psofa: | anyone here using xvmc with nvidia? |
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| [14:05:00] | psofa: | anyone here that uses mplayer with lirc? |
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| [14:05:00] | psofa: | the controls seem lacking |
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| [14:06:00] | psofa: | for example i cant see a control for cycling subtitles or audio |
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| [14:20:00] | praet: | psofa try xine |
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| [14:31:00] | psofa: | im using xine |
| [14:31:00] | psofa: | it works fine |
| [14:31:00] | psofa: | but has a little problem |
| [14:31:00] | psofa: | cant render osd when using xvmc |
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| [15:06:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys – anybody here use a PAL pvr-150? |
| [15:07:00] | abarbaccia: | or know if its the same card as the NTSC version? |
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| [15:24:00] | tanq_: | I think it's the same version.. |
| [15:24:00] | tanq_: | the card should be capable of ntsc and pal |
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| [15:28:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I've just installed nuvexport so I can export my recordings to xvid.. now how do I configure myth to do this? |
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| [15:29:00] | deebus: | anyone know how I can get sound working in knoppmyth? |
| [15:30:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | do you know what chipset you have? |
| [15:30:00] | deebus: | via |
| [15:30:00] | evilbuny: | JoeyJoeJo: I thought you ran nuvexport from the command line |
| [15:30:00] | Beirdo: | deebus: which via? |
| [15:30:00] | deebus: | let me see.. |
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| [15:31:00] | deebus: | KM400A |
| [15:31:00] | Beirdo: | whew |
| [15:31:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | evilbuny: yeah I thikn you're right, so I think I'll need to specify a user job |
| [15:31:00] | Beirdo: | some of the older ones are utter shit |
| [15:31:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | just about anything via is utter shit |
| [15:31:00] | evilbuny: | JoeyJoeJo: I haven't worked out how to automate it |
| [15:31:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I speak from exerience |
| [15:32:00] | evilbuny: | then again i doubt I'd want to, since i like to take out the ads before transfering |
| [15:32:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | evilbuny: damn |
| [15:32:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | theres no way to take out ads automatically I guss? |
| [15:32:00] | evilbuny: | myth detects ads for me better on some channels then others |
| [15:32:00] | paul_: | I'm working on getting video out on a PVR350 to work, but I've got a related question. Other than the PVR350, my mythtv box has no audio hardware. How can I get mythtv not to complain about that? |
| [15:32:00] | evilbuny: | I'm guessing it's the networks screwing about trying to defeat ad skipping |
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| [15:33:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | true |
| [15:33:00] | deebus: | beirdo: any ideas about the sound? |
| [15:33:00] | Beirdo: | what's the issue? |
| [15:33:00] | paul_: | I tried putting /dev/null as the audio output device, but then it just complains about not being able to set the frequency and channels, instead of about not being able to open the device |
| [15:33:00] | deebus: | no sound |
| [15:34:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | deebus: do an lsmod and see is the driver is loaded |
| [15:34:00] | evilbuny: | does anyone here use ubuntu breezy and ivtv-0.4.1 drivers at all? |
| [15:34:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | evilbuny: how do you transcode things, with the built in stuff, or nuvexport? |
| [15:35:00] | deebus: | ok...what am I looking for in the lsmod output? |
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| [15:35:00] | deebus: | snd_mixer_oss, snd_via82x, a few others, too |
| [15:35:00] | evilbuny: | JoeyJoeJo: nuvexport |
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| [15:36:00] | Loeckchen: | hello |
| [15:36:00] | evilbuny: | I usually mark ads on a bunch of files and let it process over night |
| [15:36:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I'm not sure if that's right or not.. check out www.alsa-project.org to see what drivers need to be loaded for your card |
| [15:36:00] | Loeckchen: | anyone familiar with mythgame? |
| [15:36:00] | Loeckchen: | i have mythtv 0.18.1 with mythgame and xmame.x11 0.102 and it says version is not supported |
| [15:36:00] | Loeckchen: | the paths are all correct |
| [15:36:00] | Loeckchen: | permissions too |
| [15:37:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | evilbuny: do you do all your nuvexports via command line? |
| [15:37:00] | Loeckchen: | i then removed the version check from mythgame, now it segfaults when trying to load a rom |
| [15:37:00] | Loeckchen: | i can run xmame.x11 from the commandline though |
| [15:38:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | evilbuy: if so, what command do you use (I'm a total newb when it comes to this) |
| [15:38:00] | evilbuny: | JoeyJoeJo: I follow the menu options |
| [15:39:00] | evilbuny: | though I usually skip the first step and call nuvexport-xvid |
| [15:39:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | which menu do you mean? |
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| [15:39:00] | evilbuny: | JoeyJoeJo: nuvexport ncurses menus |
| [15:40:00] | Loeckchen: | can nobody help me? |
| [15:40:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | ah, ok |
| [15:42:00] | deebus: | looks like I'm effed |
| [15:42:00] | deebus: | I curse the man who told me the via chipset was a good way to go... |
| [15:42:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | whats wrong? |
| [15:43:00] | evilbuny: | deebus: via is never the way to go unless you can't help it |
| [15:43:00] | deebus: | no sound, and the tuner isn't working |
| [15:43:00] | deebus: | ugh |
| [15:43:00] | evilbuny: | did you do lspci to see if the kernel can see it? |
| [15:43:00] | deebus: | can anyone recommend a decent socket A board? |
| [15:43:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | is your hardware not supported? |
| [15:44:00] | deebus: | lspci gave me a bunch of entries with "via" in them |
| [15:44:00] | deebus: | I've got an asus board with via chipset |
| [15:44:00] | deebus: | onboard everything. nic and video work fin\e |
| [15:44:00] | evilbuny: | deebus: via does bridge chips too |
| [15:44:00] | deebus: | so do usb |
| [15:45:00] | deebus: | ? |
| [15:45:00] | deebus: | you mean northbridge and southbridge, etc |
| [15:45:00] | evilbuny: | yes |
| [15:45:00] | evilbuny: | i've never seen a via sound chip lately that wouldn't load a kernel module |
| [15:46:00] | evilbuny: | well vice versa |
| [15:46:00] | evilbuny: | they're pretty well supported |
| [15:47:00] | deebus: | my northbridge has a big old heatsink on it, but the number on the southbridge is documented at alsa-project |
| [15:47:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I had a via epia 10000 motherboard and got almost all of it's features working |
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| [15:49:00] | Beirdo: | when you say sound doesn't work, do you mean you can't get it working in mythtv, or it doesn't work in ANYTHING? |
| [15:51:00] | deebus: | doesn't work in anything |
| [15:51:00] | deebus: | just getting my tower speaker beeping at me |
| [15:52:00] | Beirdo: | OK, that's a start... so the drivers aren't working, or you have stuff plugged into the wrong ports |
| [15:52:00] | Beirdo: | have you checked that you are plugged in right? |
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| [15:53:00] | deebus: | yeah, looks good. green is usually out, right? |
| [15:53:00] | deebus: | at least that's what the diagram looks like |
| [15:54:00] | deebus: | yeah, it's right |
| [15:56:00] | nullspin: | Any error if you try to play a sound wave? |
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| [15:57:00] | nullspin: | what type of file manager are you using kde/gnome? |
| [15:57:00] | deebus: | are there any audio files laying around the filesystem with knoppmyth, do you know? |
| [15:58:00] | deebus: | fluxbox |
| [15:58:00] | Krazylegz: | deebus: Not that I can think of. |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | OK, if you are sure you are hooked up right... that's always a good thing to check first |
| [15:58:00] | quicksilver: | DrBair: you around? you were asking about tv-out on ATI radeon chips, I have that working here. |
| [15:58:00] | deebus: | yes, I am |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | cat /proc/kcore > /dev/dsp |
| [15:58:00] | poop: | I spent a long time fighting my via VT82337. |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | muhahaha |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | if that makes a loud noise, your sound is working |
| [15:59:00] | ** Beirdo chuckles ** | |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | turn DOWN the volume if you want to try that |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | but if no sound modules are shown in lsmod, that would be the first thing to fix |
| [16:00:00] | poop: | deebus: What kernel/alsa version do you have? 1.0.8+ simplifies the mixer a bit, but you still have a lot to play with. |
| [16:00:00] | deebus: | ok, I'm rather newb...how do I determine that? |
| [16:00:00] | Beirdo: | for kernel: uname -a |
| [16:00:00] | poop: | deebus: uname -r |
| [16:01:00] | nullspin: | I actually jumped on because of a sound problem but as it turns out I had copied junk into .asoundrc which errored out my sound. |
| [16:01:00] | Beirdo: | well, -r will show just the kernel revision, true |
| [16:01:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:01:00] | poop: | I don't have an .asoundrc. |
| [16:01:00] | deebus: | 2.6.13.2-chw-3 |
| [16:02:00] | deebus: | lsmod is showing (what look like) sound modules |
| [16:02:00] | deebus: | modinfo soundcore shows there is something in there... |
| [16:02:00] | poop: | deebus: I _think_ that's pretty current. What chipset is it exactly? cat /proc/asound/cards |
| [16:02:00] | deebus: | via 8235 with ad1980 |
| [16:03:00] | deebus: | gives me the offset and irq, too. I guess that's a good thing |
| [16:03:00] | poop: | deebus: Do you have dxr channels in alsamixer? |
| [16:03:00] | Beirdo: | I'll leave you in the fine hands of ALSA users |
| [16:03:00] | poop: | dxs |
| [16:03:00] | Beirdo: | I use OSS :) |
| [16:04:00] | poop: | You use OSS for now you mean. |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | I've ALWAYS used OSS |
| [16:04:00] | poop: | You won't forever. |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | the only thing I have ALSA on is my laptop |
| [16:04:00] | deebus: | ok, when I run alsamixer...what am I looking for? |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | yes I will |
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| [16:04:00] | poop: | Way to stick to your guns. |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | ALSA bloweth large |
| [16:05:00] | Beirdo: | (in my opinion) |
| [16:05:00] | poop: | OSS is too simple, alsa too complex. |
| [16:05:00] | Beirdo: | but I'm just a stubborn fool |
| [16:05:00] | deebus: | what exactly are dxr channels? |
| [16:05:00] | Beirdo: | it SHOULD be simple |
| [16:05:00] | Beirdo: | then you don't get crap like this |
| [16:05:00] | deebus: | :-/ |
| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | deebus: it's not your fault it's complex :) |
| [16:06:00] | poop: | deebus: If you don't see them that makes things easier. Did you use dxs_support=? when you loaded snd_via82xx? |
| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | we'll get you all fixed up, I'm sure |
| [16:06:00] | deebus: | actually, I don't know. I'm using knoppmyth because (get this...) it's easy :-\ |
| [16:07:00] | poop: | deebus: Alright, master and pcm are unmuted and jacked up? |
| [16:07:00] | deebus: | yes |
| [16:08:00] | poop: | deebus: And when you aplay -D default foo.wav you don't get anything? |
| [16:08:00] | Krazylegz: | deebus: I'm using KnoppMyth right now. Wait until you want to upgrade. :-) |
| [16:08:00] | deebus: | let me see... |
| [16:08:00] | deebus: | krazylegz: using R5A26 right now...latest, right? |
| [16:09:00] | Krazylegz: | Nah, I'm using R5A22 or something. |
| [16:09:00] | Krazylegz: | I set mine up like 4 months ago. |
| [16:10:00] | deebus: | ok, hang on...I need find a .wav file somewhere... |
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| [16:10:00] | poop: | It's hard to blame knoppix for not dealing with the variability in the via823x chips. |
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| [16:11:00] | dagfinnr: | hello, im having some troubles with the lirc thing..when i boot the service is started, but i have to do all the lirc-start steps in the fedora howto to get it working..anyone have any hints on what may be wrong? |
| [16:12:00] | deebus: | aplay -D default somewavfile.wav -> aplay: playback:1930: read error |
| [16:13:00] | Krazylegz: | deebus: Did you find a .wav file yet? |
| [16:13:00] | deebus: | tried a new wave file...looks like aplay is playing it just fine, but I still get no sound |
| [16:13:00] | deebus: | omgosh... |
| [16:13:00] | deebus: | if you all want to ping flood me for this, I'll understand... |
| [16:14:00] | poop: | deebus: Can you paste amixer output somewhere? |
| [16:14:00] | ** deebus feels like COMPLETE retard... ** | |
| [16:14:00] | deebus: | <sheepishly>I didn't have my stereo turned on</sheepishly> |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | hahahah |
| [16:14:00] | Krazylegz: | Very interesting. :-) |
| [16:15:00] | ** Beirdo slaps deebus with a trout ** | |
| [16:15:00] | deebus: | for real guys, if you feel like DoS-ing me, I'll understand completely... |
| [16:15:00] | Beirdo: | nah, we're above that |
| [16:15:00] | deebus: | UGH. ID10T error |
| [16:15:00] | poop: | pebcak |
| [16:15:00] | poop: | althought that one doesn't make much sense |
| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | we all do crazy idiotic things at times |
| [16:16:00] | quicksilver: | easy mistake to make |
| [16:16:00] | Krazylegz: | deebus: We're into trout, not DoS attacks. |
| [16:16:00] | quicksilver: | I frequently don't have my speakers plugged in |
| [16:16:00] | quicksilver: | and wonder why no sound comes out... |
| [16:16:00] | poop: | Yeah, I went out and bought a peecee thinking it'd work. |
| [16:16:00] | poop: | well, hoping (I am a realist) |
| [16:16:00] | quicksilver: | (actually if you put your ear right up to the speaker, it *does* work even when not plugged in :) |
| [16:16:00] | deebus: | haha. wow, I actually found an irc channel with a measure of maturity? |
| [16:16:00] | ** quicksilver hands round the trout. ** | |
| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:16:00] | ** poop tokes ** | |
| [16:16:00] | deebus: | lol |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | we try to be a bit more mature than some |
| [16:17:00] | deebus: | well, so much for that idea... |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | he said trout, not bong! |
| [16:17:00] | deebus: | hahahaha |
| [16:17:00] | poop: | I knew something was fishy. |
| [16:17:00] | dagfinnr: | brb,rebot |
| [16:17:00] | dagfinnr: | oot |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | and if you use a trout as a bong, you ARE odd |
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| [16:17:00] | deebus: | I like how I just commented on the level of maturity in this channel, only to be followed up with "poop tokes" |
| [16:17:00] | ** poop steams ** | |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | we can't be TOO mature :) |
| [16:17:00] | poop: | You'll RUE THE DAY |
| [16:18:00] | poop: | I gotta fucking pack. |
| [16:18:00] | deebus: | heh. |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | you gotta fuck the pack? |
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| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | poor wolves |
| [16:19:00] | poop: | marmots |
| [16:19:00] | Krazylegz: | I guess I'll ask again. Any ideas on getting rid of this static in some channels on my PVR-350? I'm almost starting to think that it has to do with the hardware now. |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | Krazylegz: maybe you need a cable amplifier? |
| [16:19:00] | poop: | Krazy: Does fine-tuning help at all? |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | or remove unused splitters? |
| [16:20:00] | Krazylegz: | I've tried moving the system all the way back so that it's the only thing plugged into the cable. |
| [16:20:00] | Krazylegz: | Even removing the modem. |
| [16:20:00] | Krazylegz: | Shouldn't need a cable amp then, right? |
| [16:20:00] | ** poop regrets joining alsa-user ** | |
| [16:20:00] | Beirdo: | one would hope |
| [16:20:00] | Krazylegz: | Fine-tuning I haven't tried yet. Linky? |
| [16:20:00] | Beirdo: | but if your cable feed is marginal... |
| [16:20:00] | Krazylegz: | It's good enough for the cable modem to be fast and digital cable to work. |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | and you'd need to amplify AFTER splitting for the modem |
| [16:21:00] | Krazylegz: | Right. |
| [16:21:00] | Krazylegz: | I don't think the modems like amps. |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | well, analog is more finicky |
| [16:21:00] | Krazylegz: | Also, things look fine on the television. |
| [16:21:00] | poop: | I wouldn't know how to conveniently with a pvr-350 (can mplayer?) |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | modems and digital may need bidirectional amps |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [16:21:00] | deebus: | are there any decent alternatives to zap2it for lineup info? I've registered (twice!) with zap2it, and I still can't pull down lineups |
| [16:21:00] | Krazylegz: | It's only a few specific channels. |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | OK, it might be some interference in the computer itself |
| [16:22:00] | Krazylegz: | Beirdo: I considered that too. |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | I have that with ONE of my 3 PVR-250s with channel 6 |
| [16:22:00] | Krazylegz: | I could put the card into another system, but that's a pain of course. |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | I don't get it |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | deebus: nope. |
| [16:22:00] | poop: | deebus: Did you setsup your lineups? |
| [16:22:00] | Krazylegz: | I get it with some really low channels a bit, and like 68–76. |
| [16:22:00] | deebus: | yes, I did |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | could well be interference, but not sure what to suspect first |
| [16:23:00] | poop: | deebus: Do you get useful output in your terminal from mythtv-setup? |
| [16:23:00] | deebus: | let me see... |
| [16:23:00] | deebus: | whoa...it can't find datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com |
| [16:24:00] | poop: | Make sure your terminal is plugged in |
| [16:24:00] | poop: | or turned on |
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| [16:24:00] | deebus: | knoppmyth keeps putting a bogus nameserver in my /etc/resolv.conf GRR |
| [16:25:00] | Beirdo: | that's likely coming from your DHCP server |
| [16:25:00] | deebus: | viola. there we go |
| [16:25:00] | Beirdo: | setting up DHCP servers is always fun |
| [16:26:00] | poop: | It's easy to override dhclient |
| [16:27:00] | deebus: | ok, mythfilldatabase-ing right now |
| [16:29:00] | deebus: | I think I'll grab a bite to eat. I'll be back pretty soon, I'm sure |
| [16:29:00] | deebus: | thanks for your help, everybody. even though I was slightly retarded today |
| [16:29:00] | poop: | Can you get me a tuna on wheat? |
| [16:29:00] | poop: | thanks |
| [16:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Mmmm. Tuna. |
| [16:32:00] | Beirdo: | deebus: not a problem |
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| [17:00:00] | evilbuny: | anyone know how to make ivtv drivers load firmware from a partiular directory, debian/ubuntu has hotplug stuff as defunct in favour of udev but that doesn't feed paths or something into the ivtv driver and I can't find anything on google etc about it |
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| [17:02:00] | evilbuny: | well between 0.4.0 and 0.4.1 hotplug was introduced and damned if I can load firmware since, 0.4.0 is buggy and looses sound often only reason I'm trying to upgrade |
| [17:02:00] | poop: | http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/aus/111508160.html |
| [17:03:00] | simon_c: | Hi All. I recently added a dvb-t card into my mmythbox, all working great, but the TV info that comes over the air is a lot less detailed that from the mythfilldatabase source. Anyway to merge that info ? |
| [17:04:00] | poop: | What would such a merge look like (academically)? |
| [17:05:00] | poop: | trockij: delay gratification, make money |
| [17:05:00] | poop: | oops |
| [17:06:00] | simon_c: | poop: I guess merge is the wrong answer, I want all the info to be radio times site via mythfill database. |
| [17:06:00] | simon_c: | wrong question I meen |
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| [17:17:00] | deebus: | ARRGGG |
| [17:17:00] | deebus: | "watch tv" just gives me a blank screen |
| [17:18:00] | deebus: | anyone have any ideas? |
| [17:18:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm. Trying to tune with xawtv. I know this used to work, but now I can't get it to look at tuner0. |
| [17:18:00] | Krazylegz: | Er, scantv that is. |
| [17:18:00] | deebus: | scantv? |
| [17:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Part of the xawtv package. |
| [17:19:00] | deebus: | is that included with knoppmyth? |
| [17:19:00] | deebus: | and is that in the default path? |
| [17:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Then I believe I can fine tune the channels that are giving me static, and maybe figure out my problem. |
| [17:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes. |
| [17:19:00] | ** Krazylegz uses KnoppMyth ** | |
| [17:19:00] | deebus: | k |
| [17:19:00] | laga: | maybe scantv -c /dev/tuner0 ? |
| [17:19:00] | deebus: | ok, let me try. the blank screen also locked up my box. had to reboot |
| [17:20:00] | Krazylegz: | No, because /dev/tuner0 doesn't exist. |
| [17:20:00] | laga: | /dev/v4l/ ? |
| [17:20:00] | laga: | tuner0? wtf. should be video0, right? |
| [17:20:00] | Krazylegz: | /dev/v4l/ also does not exist. |
| [17:20:00] | Krazylegz: | Right. |
| [17:20:00] | deebus: | scantv tells me "no station" for all the channels |
| [17:21:00] | Krazylegz: | When I try that: invalid value for input: television |
| [17:21:00] | Krazylegz: | valid choices for "input": "Composite 0", "Composite 1", "Composite 2", "Composite 3", "Tuner 0", "Composite 4", "S-Video 0", "S-Video 1", "S-Video 2", "S-Video 3" |
| [17:21:00] | Krazylegz: | deebus: Same here. |
| [17:21:00] | Krazylegz: | However, I don't see where to enter input = Tuner 0 with scantv. |
| [17:21:00] | deebus: | I'm seriously debating going back to windows right now |
| [17:21:00] | Krazylegz: | Don't do it! |
| [17:22:00] | Krazylegz: | Mythtv is really cool. I just have to get some more bugs ironed out. |
| [17:22:00] | deebus: | I don't want to, but I don't want my pvr to be $200 paperweight |
| [17:22:00] | Krazylegz: | You'll get it working. |
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| [17:24:00] | deebus: | reinstalling from scratch |
| [17:24:00] | Krazylegz: | I didn't have a whole lot of trouble with KnoppMyth. |
| [17:25:00] | ** Krazylegz is clearly special ** | |
| [17:26:00] | ** deebus is frustrated ** | |
| [17:27:00] | deebus: | what card are you using? |
| [17:28:00] | Krazylegz: | PVR-350. |
| [17:28:00] | deebus: | hm. worked out of the box? |
| [17:28:00] | Krazylegz: | Pretty much. |
| [17:28:00] | Krazylegz: | What are you hung up on now? |
| [17:28:00] | deebus: | I've got the pvr-500, and it doesn't do crap |
| [17:28:00] | deebus: | no picture. just a blank screen, and it locks up |
| [17:28:00] | Krazylegz: | What does dmesg say? |
| [17:29:00] | deebus: | it can see the card and both tuners just fine |
| [17:29:00] | deebus: | I'm reinstalling right now, though |
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| [17:37:00] | eiggirC: | dumb question – how do you minimise mythfrontend once its gne fullscreen? |
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| [17:38:00] | kormoc: | eiggirC, however your window manager minimizes windows? |
| [17:38:00] | gnuyen: | is there a way to delete all the episodes from one show? |
| [17:38:00] | gnuyen: | without having to delete each individual show |
| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | gnuyen: I don't think so |
| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | But then I've also never tried |
| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | eiggirC: You can only minimize it if you have windowed mode enabled |
| [17:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | or at least that is the only way you will get an icon or some such to do it |
| [17:47:00] | gnuyen: | if you just delete stuff in /var/myth/tv |
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| [17:48:00] | gnuyen: | will mythtv figure it out and remove it from the database? |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [17:51:00] | praet: | eiggirC what is your desktop, kde? |
| [17:51:00] | gnuyen: | is the xbox frontend fast enough to run mpeg4s? |
| [17:52:00] | gnuyen: | so i can transcode these files? |
| [17:52:00] | gnuyen: | or should i keep them mpeg2s |
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| [17:56:00] | redline--: | anyone home? |
| [17:56:00] | ** laga decomposes ** | |
| [17:56:00] | redline--: | anyone able to watch tv on the svn release of myth? |
| [17:57:00] | laga: | works fine for me with rev 8300 |
| [17:57:00] | kormoc: | redline--, no, we're all not here, given it takes longer then a few seconds for someone to respond. |
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| [17:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | got most of my hardware today |
| [17:57:00] | redline--: | perfect, than i will just talk to myself =) |
| [17:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | whats up redline |
| [17:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | r u from chicago ? |
| [17:57:00] | redline--: | PA |
| [17:57:00] | |Slurpee|: | o |
| [17:58:00] | kormoc: | redline--, where abouts? |
| [17:58:00] | redline--: | Easton |
| [17:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | one of the biggest subway lines in chicago is called, the redline |
| [17:58:00] | redline--: | ahh thats cool to know |
| [17:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | guess soo |
| [17:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | i can see it right now from my hosue |
| [17:58:00] | |Slurpee|: | hahah |
| [17:58:00] | poop: | We also have a red line in Boston. |
| [17:59:00] | redline--: | my nick came from back in my warez days when I used to burn cd's like 4 times a with the little reline they call a laser |
| [17:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | boston eh ! |
| [17:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | wicked |
| [17:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | make me some chowdah!!$ |
| [17:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | sorry |
| [17:59:00] | poop: | Do you like your kneecaps? |
| [17:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | i have lots of family from the east casot :( |
| [17:59:00] | |Slurpee|: | hahah |
| [18:00:00] | |Slurpee|: | my uncle lives in north andover |
| [18:00:00] | |Slurpee|: | works in the city |
| [18:00:00] | |Slurpee|: | i love the seafood out there |
| [18:00:00] | kormoc: | poop, you one of the Boston thugs? |
| [18:00:00] | ** poop flexes ** | |
| [18:01:00] | poop: | I could get traded to NYC any day though. |
| [18:01:00] | kormoc: | I donno... Boston thugs are pretty hardassed, tho quite assholes. |
| [18:01:00] | rjune: | poop flexes? that's just wrong |
| [18:02:00] | kormoc: | I just don't like how they show up and break up concerts that they don't like. |
| [18:02:00] | ** kormoc shrugs. ** | |
| [18:03:00] | poop: | Which concerts? |
| [18:03:00] | redline--: | laga did you have to do aything special to get 8300 working? |
| [18:04:00] | redline--: | I lust updated to 8355 and doing a make and install now |
| [18:04:00] | kormoc: | I was at a Blackdog and what was the name... Back in black concert at the one southern side bar, and about 20 guys showed up and busted up the place, saying they didn't like the devil music. |
| [18:04:00] | laga: | redline--: nope. it just works [tm] |
| [18:05:00] | kormoc: | evendently it happens quite often compaired to other places. |
| [18:05:00] | redline--: | i fear it may the ivtv drivers I am using |
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| [18:06:00] | nuxil: | anyone know irxenvent |
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| [18:13:00] | nullspin: | I'm getting this interesting error regarding the firmware for ivtv in fedora core 4. |
| [18:14:00] | nullspin: | ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw |
| [18:14:00] | nullspin: | ivtv0: did you put the firmware in the hotplug firmware directory? |
| [18:14:00] | praet: | ive seen that |
| [18:14:00] | praet: | throw those files into your hotplug and you are all good |
| [18:14:00] | nullspin: | hotplug's location is /etc/hotplug |
| [18:14:00] | nullspin: | dropped files in their no dice. |
| [18:15:00] | nullspin: | then I noticed it said 'hotplug firmware directory?' |
| [18:15:00] | nullspin: | so I created a firmware directory under hotplug and dropped the files in their. |
| [18:15:00] | nullspin: | no dice. |
| [18:16:00] | Krazylegz: | nullspin: Should be something like /lib/firmware |
| [18:16:00] | praet: | err. need to be in firmware |
| [18:16:00] | nullspin: | I think it located in /lib/modules now. |
| [18:16:00] | deebus: | ok, can anyone help me figure out why I get get static on the video feed, and no audio? |
| [18:16:00] | nuxil: | nullspin get a bttv card. :P much simpler :P hehe |
| [18:16:00] | deebus: | are the audio and video channels interlaced? |
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| [18:17:00] | nullspin: | gotta stick with what I got. |
| [18:19:00] | praet: | nullspin /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ |
| [18:19:00] | Krazylegz: | nullspin: I made symlinks from /lib/modules to /lib/firmware for what I needed. |
| [18:19:00] | praet: | or read in the /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent and see where your dirs are |
| [18:20:00] | nullspin: | Thanks praet..I did not realize the info was in the firmware.agent directory...I will read and see what I can do. |
| [18:20:00] | praet: | it could also be /lib/firmware (where mine is) |
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| [18:21:00] | prodigy7: | hi |
| [18:21:00] | nullspin: | I checked that directory and the files were in their also. |
| [18:22:00] | evilbuny: | nullspin: what distro? |
| [18:23:00] | ** deebus raises hand ** | |
| [18:23:00] | prodigy7: | question: i've the mythtv-db running on host a and the mythbackend on host b ... i'm looking now for an possibility to wake up the backend if theres an record entry for the current time ... maybe someone has build an script for that? |
| [18:23:00] | nullspin: | fc4 |
| [18:23:00] | Krazylegz: | I must be dumb. I don't understand how to do fine tuning with ptune. |
| [18:23:00] | praet: | nullspin have you rebooted since moving the firmware? |
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| [18:24:00] | praet: | prodigy7 wake up mythbackend? |
| [18:24:00] | prodigy7: | yes |
| [18:24:00] | nullspin: | yes...actually when I moved the firmware in /lib/firmware I overwrote it...so it was already there...I'm trying to figure now if the firmware directory in hot plug might be something else besides lowercase. |
| [18:25:00] | nullspin: | moved=copied |
| [18:25:00] | evilbuny: | nullspin: hmmm, i'm having hotplug issues since debian/ubuntu is depreciating hotplug in favour of udev |
| [18:25:00] | prodigy7: | i've an buffalo linkstation with debian (need not so much power like an normal pc) and want wake up the pc with tvcard only if an recording is in the queue or i want show an recording |
| [18:26:00] | praet: | prodigy7 well i think its supposed to remain running (in the background) but i guess you could schedule a script to run it if it finds entries in the db |
| [18:26:00] | ** deebus hates mythtv right now ** | |
| [18:26:00] | prodigy7: | ok ... that means, that there are currently no script/program exist which does this? |
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| [18:28:00] | praet: | not that i know of.. but i bet you could cron a script that runs a mysql query (using a timeframe filter) and if it finds results run the backend |
| [18:28:00] | prodigy7: | ok |
| [18:28:00] | nullspin: | ok i'm going to reboot and see if I can get a winner here. |
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| [18:29:00] | prodigy7: | then i'll write an script – i think, there are more people on the world which want safe power :-) |
| [18:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Really, how do I figure out which frequencies I should use for these channels? The only way I can seem to do fine tuning to determine is to use mythtv-setup. I understand that I should be able to use something like ptune? |
| [18:29:00] | kormoc: | prodigy7, keep in mind, you would need a second mysql database and computer that's always on |
| [18:29:00] | prodigy7: | kormoc: the "always online" computer is my buffalo linkstation ... an nas on which i'd installed debian ... |
| [18:29:00] | kormoc: | prodigy7, and you would need to setup replication between the two databvases. |
| [18:29:00] | Chutt: | mythbackend already can turn itself on and off, if your computer supports it |
| [18:30:00] | prodigy7: | why i need 2 databases ? |
| [18:30:00] | evilbuny: | prodigy7: there is a way for myth to control startup/shutdown by setting the time in the bios |
| [18:30:00] | kormoc: | prodigy7, you can't access the database on the off computer |
| [18:30:00] | prodigy7: | Chutt: yes ... nvram-wakeup ... that what i currently use ... |
| [18:30:00] | praet: | kormoc could he run mythbackend to point to the other cpu db right? |
| [18:30:00] | kormoc: | praet, that's true |
| [18:30:00] | Chutt: | so why the hell would you need something different? |
| [18:31:00] | praet: | run the scheduler on the same cpu as mythconverg, and send the wakeup when needed |
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| [18:32:00] | quicksilver: | hmm it would be nice if mythfilldb told me what it was doing, the silence is uninformative... |
| [18:32:00] | prodigy7: | kormoc... i think, you doesn't right understand what i wand ... i'll try to explain it: host b with tv card and mythbackend is normaly shut down if there isn't a job ... when an job is in the quere on "always on" host a, the script/program on this host wake up host b with wake on lan ... if host b is started, they access the db on host a an do their job |
| [18:33:00] | Chutt: | prodigy7, you don't seem to understand that it does that already. |
| [18:33:00] | Chutt: | and has for well over a year now. |
| [18:33:00] | prodigy7: | Chutt: with nvram-wakeup ? |
| [18:33:00] | Chutt: | yes. |
| [18:33:00] | prodigy7: | ok ... you know, what isn't good with this method ? |
| [18:34:00] | Chutt: | nothing? |
| [18:34:00] | praet: | heh |
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| [18:34:00] | prodigy7: | however, wring ! |
| [18:34:00] | prodigy7: | -i+o |
| [18:34:00] | Chutt: | wring? |
| [18:34:00] | prodigy7: | the host on which mythbackend is running must always be on if i want program an show, right? |
| [18:35:00] | prodigy7: | wrong, not wring :) |
| [18:35:00] | Chutt: | turn it on if you want to do that |
| [18:35:00] | Chutt: | i _assume_ you have a power button. |
| [18:35:00] | prodigy7: | ok ... but why i should it turn on if a only want program an show which is running next day ? |
| [18:35:00] | Chutt: | because you were stupid enough to turn it off? |
| [18:35:00] | praet: | well you could read into the db and create a record |
| [18:35:00] | prodigy7: | why i should do this if i'd running an other box all the long day? |
| [18:36:00] | kormoc: | prodigy7, it would just be easier for you to combine the two boxes then |
| [18:36:00] | prodigy7: | Chutt: the only thing what are stupid are your comments ! |
| [18:36:00] | kormoc: | prodigy7, you do realize that he's the author of myth, right? |
| [18:36:00] | Chutt: | your little 'always on' box isn't powerful enough to run the scheduler. |
| [18:37:00] | Chutt: | well, it is, it'll just take ages to reschedule anything. |
| [18:37:00] | prodigy7: | Chutt: ok ... an other factor which could it be made easier understand :) |
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| [18:37:00] | Chutt: | since you can't run the scheduler on there, you need to run it on a real machine |
| [18:37:00] | prodigy7: | my girlfriend ... she doesn't know linux ... |
| [18:37:00] | praet: | prodigy7 youd have to script something yourself in the end |
| [18:37:00] | Chutt: | so, if you want to schedule things, the backend needs to be running. |
| [18:37:00] | Chutt: | it's quite simple. |
| [18:37:00] | prodigy7: | she want only call the webpage for programming an recording ... |
| [18:37:00] | Chutt: | so, don't turn it off? |
| [18:38:00] | prodigy7: | she doesn't want turn on the mythbackend and she doesn't want shutdown the computer every time ... |
| [18:38:00] | praet: | run mythweb off the cpu with the database |
| [18:38:00] | Chutt: | what would 'having to know linux' have to do with turning a machine on manually, scheduling something, and then allowing it to shut down automatically? |
| [18:38:00] | kormoc: | prodigy7, if you had a tivo, would you turn it off every night? |
| [18:38:00] | Chutt: | praet, needs the backend to actually schedule things |
| [18:38:00] | kormoc: | praet, mythweb does communicate to the backend, aye |
| [18:38:00] | praet: | oh didnt know that |
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| [18:38:00] | nullspin: | That was the problem /etc/hotplug/firmware really needed to be /etc/hotplug/FIRMWARE once the files were copied to the directory everything is happy as pie. |
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| [18:39:00] | Chutt: | well, it doesn't for everything, but if you want to know what it's actually going to schedule, it does |
| [18:39:00] | prodigy7: | ok, there is maybe an problem in understand mythtv ... if i program an recording via webinterface, is it done directly via db or goes it via mythtv ? |
| [18:39:00] | praet: | great stuff nullspin |
| [18:39:00] | kormoc: | prodigy7, it goes via mythbackend |
| [18:39:00] | prodigy7: | ok ...... |
| [18:39:00] | prodigy7: | i thought, it is done directly |
| [18:40:00] | kormoc: | prodigy7, that would involve a huge admount of code duplication, which is a bad thing. |
| [18:40:00] | nullspin: | allright i'm off to finish this install...adios. |
| [18:40:00] | nullspin: | and thanks for the help. |
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| [18:41:00] | prodigy7: | hm ... would it very heavy writing recordings into db without having the full mythtv logic behind ? |
| [18:42:00] | Chutt: | yes. |
| [18:42:00] | Chutt: | you can entry stuff into the database, but without the scheduler running, you can't know what it's actually going to record. |
| [18:42:00] | Chutt: | which is sort of important. |
| [18:42:00] | prodigy7: | hm, ok |
| [18:44:00] | prodigy7: | but is my intention, swap out the db to an another host an let this host control power on so absurd? |
| [18:44:00] | Chutt: | yes. |
| [18:44:00] | prodigy7: | why? because it so "easy" press the power-button ? |
| [18:44:00] | kormoc: | prodigy7, how would you know when to wake up the backend? |
| [18:46:00] | prodigy7: | ok ... before i understand, that the programming goes via mythbackend, i thought, i do an programming and on the other side an script runs periodly, check current time and recordings which will be in the queue in the next 5 minutes and if there is an recording, and wake-on-lan is started ... |
| [18:46:00] | prodigy7: | more not ... |
| [18:47:00] | kormoc: | sure |
| [18:48:00] | kormoc: | but say your GF schdeules a recording |
| [18:48:00] | prodigy7: | my nas is running 24h every day ... and if i can start my laptop, call the webinterface and can program some what, it would be nice ... so i must go my loft, poweron pc, program some what via (web)frontend and power it down after that ... |
| [18:48:00] | kormoc: | she wants it to record tonight, but the backend is sleeping till sunday, how would you deal with that? |
| [18:48:00] | prodigy7: | in my sight it would be an simplification |
| [18:48:00] | Tristam: | Smack the girlfriend and tell her not to touch your computer.... |
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| [18:49:00] | kormoc: | prodigy7, one other issue you are missing is, how will you download program data? |
| [18:49:00] | laga: | Tristam: you haven't had sex in a while, huh? ;) |
| [18:49:00] | Chutt: | or, you could just run the thing during the day and turn it off at night. |
| [18:49:00] | Tristam: | laga, I don't have a girlfriend...my wife would kill me. |
| [18:49:00] | kormoc: | prodigy7, mythbackend automatically updates the listings, you're gonna have to deal with that as well. |
| [18:50:00] | laga: | Tristam: i'm sorry. |
| [18:50:00] | prodigy7: | currently my pc power up every day on 16:30 and power down on 22:00 ... in this "timearea" recordings can be done and if the shutdown time is reached, the corresponding nvram-wakeup time is set... that's my current way |
| [18:50:00] | Tristam: | Bah, 1 woman is more than enough, a girlfriend would just add more female type complications in my life, and that is definitely something I'd rather live without. |
| [18:51:00] | prodigy7: | kormoc: program data can also be downloaded on my nas ... but if mythbackend is neccessary, this is also not passable way ... |
| [18:52:00] | prodigy7: | and mythbackend is necessary so i understand so that my intention is not doable ... or? |
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| [18:54:00] | kormoc: | prodigy7, mythbackend does all the work, you can setup a cron job to do so, but you'll need to deal with it |
| [18:55:00] | prodigy7: | ok, let it us do short and painless: no way for simplification in my case ... |
| [18:56:00] | nuxil: | anyone know how irxenvent |
| [18:56:00] | nuxil: | works |
| [18:56:00] | nuxil: | how can i use enter with irxenvent?? |
| [18:57:00] | laga: | 19:35 < Chutt> because you were stupid enough to turn it off? |
| [18:57:00] | laga: | oosp |
| [18:57:00] | nuxil: | i get this message Unmodified String: Enter |
| [18:58:00] | _willcooke_: | Guys, I'm having trouble getting Myth to compile with XvMC, is it worth my time trying to fix it? |
| [18:59:00] | kormoc: | if you have a nvidia card, it is |
| [19:00:00] | _willcooke_: | OK, thanks kormoc, I'll keep looking for the missing packages |
| [19:03:00] | _willcooke_: | Hmmm, it's telling me: cannot find -lXvMCNVIDIA |
| [19:03:00] | _willcooke_: | yet, there it is, in /usr/X11R6/lib/ |
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| [19:05:00] | dagfinnr: | hello, i have some problems getting the ir remote working after a reboot, i have followed the fedora howto, and lircd is starting with boot (i think), but still i need to follow the guide to get it working for each reboot .. |
| [19:05:00] | dagfinnr: | hello, i have some problems getting the ir remote working after a reboot, i have followed the fedora howto, and lircd is starting with boot (i think), but still i need to follow the guide to get it working for each reboot .. |
| [19:05:00] | dagfinnr: | sorry |
| [19:05:00] | dagfinnr: | wasnt ment to come twice :/ |
| [19:06:00] | _willcooke_: | said the actress to the bishop |
| [19:06:00] | praet: | dagfinnr did you get irw to output keypresses? |
| [19:06:00] | praet: | lol _willcooke_ |
| [19:07:00] | dagfinnr: | praet, well, yes, but not after a reboot, i have to do all the stuff in the howto (load the module, start lirc), then it works perfect |
| [19:08:00] | dagfinnr: | if i looke at the service configuration i see that lircd is set to start with boot, but the status is that its "dead but the partsystem is dead" (translated from norwegian). |
| [19:10:00] | praet: | dagfinnr you did add this: /sbin/chkconfig lircd on |
| [19:10:00] | dagfinnr: | yeah, ive done that a bunch of times |
| [19:11:00] | dagfinnr: | does it matter if backend or lircd start first? |
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| [19:11:00] | praet: | well if you can get it working when not drop that code into a startup |
| [19:11:00] | dagfinnr: | looks like the backend is started first when i look at boring |
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| [19:11:00] | dagfinnr: | what do you mean praet ? |
| [19:11:00] | stf28: | I trying to use a dish remote control to a sir |
| [19:12:00] | praet: | dagfinnr well are you running any scripts when you boot up? |
| [19:12:00] | praet: | like, to start mythfrontend |
| [19:12:00] | dagfinnr: | not other that fedora uses to boot |
| [19:12:00] | stf28: | irw doesn't sowh anything when i press button |
| [19:13:00] | dagfinnr: | /sbin/chkconfig lircd on, i though this one added lircd to start at boot? |
| [19:13:00] | praet: | stf28 check your lircd.conf |
| [19:13:00] | praet: | dagfinnr that is right |
| [19:13:00] | dagfinnr: | if i do a /sbin/modprobe lirc_i2c and a /sbin/service lircd start afterwords (all this after boot) everything is up running .. |
| [19:13:00] | praet: | and how are you getting lircd to run after booting |
| [19:14:00] | stf28: | <praet> I use a conf file specific for the 3100 |
| [19:14:00] | dagfinnr: | well praet , i thought the chkconfig did force lircd to start at boot? Do i have to spcify it manually? |
| [19:14:00] | praet: | ah. you could throw that into a script in ~/.kde/Autostart and it will run on every boot |
| [19:14:00] | praet: | yeah it should |
| [19:15:00] | dagfinnr: | could i call the file whatever i want in the autostart dir? |
| [19:15:00] | praet: | ya |
| [19:15:00] | praet: | blahblah.sh |
| [19:15:00] | praet: | make it executable |
| [19:16:00] | dagfinnr: | how to make it executable? |
| [19:16:00] | praet: | chmod +x blah.sh |
| [19:16:00] | stf28: | this is the file i use as lircd.conf <http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/dishnet/SAT_301> |
| [19:16:00] | praet: | dagfinnr anything relevant in your var/log/messages? |
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| [19:17:00] | praet: | stf28 when you run irw does it exit right away or give a connect error? |
| [19:17:00] | dagfinnr: | well, ivtv found the lirc_i2c chip on my board .. |
| [19:18:00] | stf28: | I'm connected to the /dev/lirc device |
| [19:18:00] | stf28: | it's doesnt' return t the prompt |
| [19:18:00] | dagfinnr: | praet, i do have two lines in the modprobe.conf regarding the lircd .. which is supposed to load the lirc_i2c module? |
| [19:18:00] | praet: | dagfinnr you can put the modprobe in /etc/rc.d/rc.local |
| [19:19:00] | dagfinnr: | praet, would it work if i put it in the autostart dir too? |
| [19:19:00] | stf28: | Also i use the Jarod guide for a serial ir |
| [19:19:00] | praet: | after the touch line |
| [19:19:00] | dagfinnr: | along with lircd start? |
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| [19:19:00] | praet: | yeah |
| [19:19:00] | dagfinnr: | k |
| [19:19:00] | praet: | dagfinnr see this |
| [19:19:00] | praet: | http://www.lircsetup.com/lirc/blaster/index.php |
| [19:20:00] | praet: | see step 3 but use your commands not the stuff there |
| [19:21:00] | dagfinnr: | k |
| [19:21:00] | hackmiester[LT]: | I need some help... whenever I try to run MythFrontEnd, and hit Watch TV, the backend crashes with: |
| [19:21:00] | hackmiester[LT]: | 2005-12–22 13:21:07.085 ERROR opening file in ThreadedFileWriter. |
| [19:21:00] | hackmiester[LT]: | /mnt/video/buffer/ringbuf1.nuv: No such file or directory |
| [19:21:00] | _willcooke_: | Can anyone give me any pointers on this.... http://pastebin.ca/34628 |
| [19:21:00] | kormoc: | hackmiester[LT], check what the backend is saying |
| [19:21:00] | praet: | stf28 that guide rediirects to the link i just posted for serial ir work |
| [19:22:00] | hackmiester[LT]: | kormoc: that is what the backend is saying |
| [19:22:00] | praet: | hackmiester[LT] make sure you have that folder |
| [19:22:00] | praet: | and that you have write permissions |
| [19:22:00] | hackmiester[LT]: | I'm such an idiot |
| [19:22:00] | hackmiester[LT]: | thanks |
| [19:22:00] | dagfinnr: | gonna try a reboot now, thanks praet , lets see if it works better now :) |
| [19:22:00] | praet: | chown mythtv |
| [19:22:00] | dagfinnr: | brb |
| [19:22:00] | hackmiester[LT]: | yeah, creating the folder would help |
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| [19:23:00] | praet: | doh.. it happens |
| [19:23:00] | stf28: | praet http://www.lircsetup.com/lirc/blaster/index.php#step3 this link !?! |
| [19:24:00] | praet: | ya lircsetup.com will help you set up the serial ir |
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| [19:24:00] | praet: | start from the top :) |
| [19:30:00] | _willcooke_: | ARGH!!! Found the missing package "nvidia-glx-dev". Stupid ubuntu! ;) |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | oh, relax |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | here, have a beer |
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| [19:32:00] | ** Krazylegz steals the beer ** | |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | sucker, it's a Bud, and I shook it |
| [19:33:00] | ** praet steals klz beer ** | |
| [19:33:00] | praet: | hahah |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
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| [19:33:00] | praet: | Beirdo thanks for the help yesterday btw |
| [19:33:00] | dagfinnr: | praet, works like a charm now |
| [19:33:00] | praet: | dag great |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | hey, no problem |
| [19:34:00] | dagfinnr: | yep |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | glad I could help |
| [19:34:00] | praet: | yeah this machine purrs nicely now |
| [19:35:00] | dagfinnr: | anyone familiar to the via epia m10k here, tried to connect it to the tv for the first time today, and i got colored and nice pic until X started, then all became black and white, i havent selected tv-out or something, as this is configured in the bios, so i really dont understand why it suddenly became black and white..anyone? |
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| [19:44:00] | _willcooke_: | Oh, I've just realised I haven't been running qmake before make, is that necessary? |
| [19:44:00] | dagfinnr: | .. and everyone became silent :P |
| [19:44:00] | ** _willcooke_ is huntin' wabbits ** | |
| [19:45:00] | poop: | dagfinnr: There are web sites dedicated to those mini-itx machines ... |
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| [19:53:00] | dagfinnr: | yeah, but i havent found that mentioned at those sites |
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| [20:06:00] | hackmiester[LT]: | Another question |
| [20:06:00] | hackmiester[LT]: | what does 'taking too long to be allowed to read..' ? |
| [20:06:00] | hackmiester[LT]: | *what is |
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| [20:19:00] | nullspin: | Ok I ran into a problem earlier thought I had it licked now it's cropped back up. |
| [20:20:00] | nullspin: | ivtv firmware is not opening...this time when I look at messages i'm getting error in modprobe.conf |
| [20:21:00] | nullspin: | line 4 and 6. |
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| [20:21:00] | nullspin: | Here they are if anyone cares to take a look. |
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| [20:22:00] | stf28: | Hello!!! |
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| [20:22:00] | snecklifter: | hi |
| [20:23:00] | stf28: | I'm trying to use a dish network remote control (301) as a remote control... some one can help me !?! |
| [20:24:00] | abarbaccia: | stf28 – it might not be a good idea if you have the same dish network cable box in the room |
| [20:24:00] | abarbaccia: | it'll change then channel on the box and so will mythtv |
| [20:24:00] | stf28: | the location of the receiver and the pc are not a problem |
| [20:24:00] | abarbaccia: | if you're not, then you need to just make up a remote code for lirc and get a lirc receiver |
| [20:25:00] | abarbaccia: | stf28, i'm takling about the cable box the remote belongs to |
| [20:25:00] | abarbaccia: | if you press channel up to your PC's receiver and the cable box gets the signal as well, then you have a problem |
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| [20:26:00] | prodigy7: | gn8 |
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| [20:26:00] | stf28: | The remote and the receiver are not on the same town actualy... |
| [20:26:00] | abarbaccia: | alright then |
| [20:26:00] | nullspin: | remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1 |
| [20:26:00] | stf28: | so some one can help me please |
| [20:26:00] | nullspin: | is line 4 |
| [20:26:00] | abarbaccia: | what are you using as the receiver? PVR-x50? |
| [20:27:00] | stf28: | I have follow the guide at http://www.lircsetup.com/lirc/blaster/index.php and nothing prompt to the irw screen |
| [20:28:00] | stf28: | the reciever or the lirc controler |
| [20:28:00] | abarbaccia: | did you get irw to work? |
| [20:28:00] | stf28: | nothing in the irw. but i'm not return directly to the prompt |
| [20:29:00] | stf28: | I saw nothing in the irw screen |
| [20:29:00] | abarbaccia: | maybe its the wrong frequency |
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| [20:30:00] | stf28: | so how can i change the frequency. I use the SAT_301 ant the SAT_3100 as a lircd.conf |
| [20:30:00] | abarbaccia: | well, you can't change the frequence thats the thing |
| [20:30:00] | abarbaccia: | and the lircd doesn't really mean anything at this point |
| [20:30:00] | abarbaccia: | you're trying to make a new lircd for your remote |
| [20:31:00] | awstott: | oh abarbaccia is back!!! |
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| [20:31:00] | abarbaccia: | the remote outputs at a specific fq and the receiver receives at its fq – if they don't match – then you're stuck |
| [20:31:00] | abarbaccia: | awstott, hows it goin |
| [20:31:00] | awstott: | not too bad.... trying to get my box goin.... still havn't been successful |
| [20:31:00] | abarbaccia: | oh man – what stoppin ya now? |
| [20:32:00] | awstott: | well i upgraded to breezy, and had problems with it freezing when left for a period of time (just the gui) |
| [20:32:00] | awstott: | and then I tried ot follow your guide and I got lost AGAIN |
| [20:32:00] | abarbaccia: | upgrades are always a problem |
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| [20:32:00] | awstott: | well I did a clean installation |
| [20:32:00] | awstott: | I did have debian sarge on here b4 |
| [20:32:00] | abarbaccia: | i tried upgrading my box – ended up just doing a clean install |
| [20:33:00] | stf28: | The receiver is the ir of my ThinkpadT42 and the remote is the remote of a dish 301 or bev 3100 |
| [20:33:00] | abarbaccia: | i dont know the frequencies of either one – you'd have to do some research on the remote and the receiver |
| [20:33:00] | awstott: | in your guide you say to get linux-headers-2.6.10 (based on uname -r) but that pacakge is not found |
| [20:34:00] | abarbaccia: | usually IR works in the same fq – so you might just not have something setup correctly with lirc – can u get the thinkpadT42 to get any signals |
| [20:34:00] | abarbaccia: | well, breezy would be 2.6.12 |
| [20:34:00] | stf28: | dam, is'it possibil to find something in the proc fs |
| [20:34:00] | awstott: | why does uname -r say 2.6.10? |
| [20:34:00] | abarbaccia: | in breezy |
| [20:34:00] | abarbaccia: | ? |
| [20:34:00] | abarbaccia: | uname -r should be like 2.6.12–10 |
| [20:34:00] | awstott: | well wtf batman |
| [20:35:00] | awstott: | it is now |
| [20:35:00] | awstott: | it wasn't when I was messing with it |
| [20:35:00] | abarbaccia: | hahaha |
| [20:35:00] | poop: | You didn't update your bootloader. |
| [20:35:00] | abarbaccia: | ubuntu does it for you |
| [20:35:00] | stf28: | uname -r => 2.6.9–22.0.1.EL |
| [20:35:00] | awstott: | uname -r |
| [20:35:00] | awstott: | 2.6.12-10–686 |
| [20:35:00] | poop: | ubububu |
| [20:35:00] | stf28: | and it's a Redhat enterprise 4 |
| [20:35:00] | abarbaccia: | stf28, ur just using a different kernel – not a big deal |
| [20:36:00] | awstott: | k imma start over with your guide right from the beginnin |
| [20:36:00] | abarbaccia: | hahaha – good call – i've followed it many times with my setup – i've built a total of 11 boxes using it as my how-to |
| [20:36:00] | abarbaccia: | i know it works – well, at least for my hardware |
| [20:36:00] | abarbaccia: | and i have parts for my 12th on the way |
| [20:37:00] | awstott: | I have a 2500+xp, 1024mb ram, and a pvr500 mce |
| [20:37:00] | abarbaccia: | what are you using for a remote? |
| [20:37:00] | awstott: | oh and a radeon 9000 pro |
| [20:37:00] | awstott: | I have an ati remote |
| [20:37:00] | awstott: | just have to find it |
| [20:37:00] | abarbaccia: | is that the ati USB remote? |
| [20:37:00] | awstott: | yah |
| [20:37:00] | abarbaccia: | nice – do they use lirc |
| [20:37:00] | abarbaccia: | ? |
| [20:37:00] | awstott: | remote wonder I think it's called |
| [20:37:00] | awstott: | I dunno |
| [20:38:00] | awstott: | I've never got this working b4 |
| [20:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is a lirc module and a kernel module for it |
| [20:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | the kernel emulates key strokes, and the lirc one does whatever lirc does :) |
| [20:41:00] | stf28: | This is my kernel version kernel-2.6.9–22.0.1.EL and my lirc-kmdl-2.6.9–22.0.1.EL-0.7.2–50.el4.at kernel module |
| [20:41:00] | stf28: | what's wrong !?! |
| [20:42:00] | awstott: | how do you figure out what distro a box is running if all you have is a shell? |
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| [20:44:00] | abarbaccia: | awstott, i don't know why you would need that |
| [20:44:00] | awstott: | cuz it's not my box |
| [20:44:00] | abarbaccia: | a distro is merely a collection of software with a kernel |
| [20:44:00] | awstott: | well we need ot install some stuff on it, but apt isn't working , so it's obviously not debian based |
| [20:45:00] | abarbaccia: | you could probably guess on it based on what software is there |
| [20:45:00] | abarbaccia: | try to see if yum is there |
| [20:45:00] | abarbaccia: | i think thats the fedora installer |
| [20:45:00] | abarbaccia: | yast is the suse |
| [20:45:00] | abarbaccia: | or just compile it if it seems like so much work |
| [20:47:00] | poop: | uname -a might give you a clue |
| [20:47:00] | awstott: | didn't |
| [20:47:00] | awstott: | tried that already |
| [20:47:00] | poop: | ls /etc/*version* |
| [20:47:00] | awstott: | inux localhost.localdomain 2.4.20–8 #1 Thu Mar 13 16:42:56 EST 2003 i586 i586 i386 GNU/Linux.. |
| [20:48:00] | poop: | Does anything other than Debian say "GNU/Linux?" |
| [20:48:00] | awstott: | well it's rpm based anyways |
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| [20:52:00] | d3ity: | hey all |
| [20:52:00] | d3ity: | looking for some reccomendations on cards |
| [20:52:00] | d3ity: | looking to spend somewhere around 50 bucks or less |
| [20:53:00] | abarbaccia: | how fast is ur machine? |
| [20:53:00] | d3ity: | abarbaccia, athlon xp 3200+ |
| [20:53:00] | d3ity: | soon to have 1GB of ram again |
| [20:53:00] | d3ity: | and plenty of hard drive space. |
| [20:53:00] | awstott: | wow |
| [20:53:00] | awstott: | nice box |
| [20:53:00] | awstott: | thought mine was good.... you got me beat on the proc tho |
| [20:53:00] | d3ity: | yeah, i like it |
| [20:54:00] | awstott: | although I prolly I got you beat for HD space.... |
| [20:54:00] | d3ity: | awstott, not likley |
| [20:54:00] | d3ity: | software raid, 800GB |
| [20:54:00] | awstott: | 597.96Gb out of 1.46Tb |
| [20:54:00] | d3ity: | ok, yeah you got me |
| [20:54:00] | awstott: | lol |
| [20:54:00] | awstott: | thats just between two machines |
| [20:54:00] | d3ity: | not for long...to newegg! |
| [20:54:00] | d3ity: | lol |
| [20:54:00] | d3ity: | time to put that sata controller to work. lol |
| [20:55:00] | d3ity: | anyway, i want me some mythtv, and i'm not trying to spend all my money on a card. I'm a college student after all, and i need to keep most of my budget for ramen noodles |
| [20:56:00] | Filip^: | sell half of your ram, buy a hauppauge |
| [20:56:00] | d3ity: | Filip^, i like my ram, i'd like to keep it |
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| [20:56:00] | d3ity: | just looking for something to serve the purpose. |
| [20:56:00] | Filip^: | you won't use it for myth though |
| [20:56:00] | abarbaccia: | well, you could get a hauppauge card but not a PVR-x50 – just one without hardware encoding |
| [20:57:00] | jasta: | It would seem that MythVideo consumes a great deal of time attempting to dynamically scale coverfile images just before they are to be displayed. |
| [20:57:00] | jasta: | Is it attempting to cache these somewhere and failing or is it really designed to work this way? |
| [20:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't believe it's cached. At least not last time I looked |
| [20:57:00] | d3ity: | still, my box likes its ram |
| [20:57:00] | jasta: | It appears not to be. It's really quite slow on my box. |
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| [20:58:00] | nuxil: | who uses irxevent |
| [20:58:00] | jasta: | d3ity: I want them cached on disk. It's resizing very large JPEG files to thumbnails. |
| [20:58:00] | d3ity: | its also a fileserver/fair-use downloading box |
| [20:58:00] | nuxil: | i need some help configuring it |
| [20:58:00] | d3ity: | but, i'd just like reccomendations on a card. |
| [20:58:00] | d3ity: | if anyone knows of a fairly decent one thats not too expensive... |
| [20:58:00] | nuxil: | i need alt tab to work... |
| [20:58:00] | nuxil: | can anyone help me |
| [20:58:00] | jasta: | Well, if it's not even trying to cache the thumbnail, does anyone know a clever way to determine the target size exactly? |
| [20:59:00] | jasta: | So that I can manually scale all the images there, hoping that it either won't try to resize, or it will happen to be an efficient operation if it does try. |
| [20:59:00] | jasta: | ? |
| [20:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | jasta: open and read the theme file for that page ? |
| [20:59:00] | Chutt: | wouldn't be difficult to make it cache them |
| [21:00:00] | jasta: | GreyFoxx: Hmm, that would make it really hard to determine the exact size. I'd have to manually add all the margins, padding, etc, compute the rows by columns, etc. |
| [21:00:00] | jasta: | I'd rather hack MythVideo if that's how I need to do it. |
| [21:00:00] | Chutt: | since it caches all the other ui images |
| [21:01:00] | ** d3ity pokes ** | |
| [21:02:00] | jasta: | I manually resized the images I have now to a static guess and the performance of the video selection screen improved dramatically. Some of the images that it had to resize were over 3 times larger than the thumbnail. |
| [21:02:00] | jasta: | And it must resize 4 at a time. |
| [21:02:00] | jasta: | (for my configuration) |
| [21:02:00] | Filip^: | sorry d3ity, I chose a pvr because of compatibility reasons. They're rather well suported (especially the 350), but it's 150 dollars |
| [21:02:00] | Filip^: | Don't know much about the rest |
| [21:03:00] | jasta: | Anyway, looks like the best solution is to provide this feature in MythVideo. I'll get busy. |
| [21:03:00] | Filip^: | I would recommend you the 350 though |
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| [21:03:00] | d3ity: | hrm. someone else has to have something that works. 150 bucks is kinda steep for me right now |
| [21:04:00] | d3ity: | is there a list somewhere? i poked around the mythtv site and couldnt find anything |
| [21:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | The pvr150 is around $60-$70 USD. Personally I don't see the 350 as worth the money myself |
| [21:04:00] | Filip^: | I think any card that works with v4l is supported by myth, but other people here know much more about that |
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| [21:05:00] | Filip^: | GreyFoxx: are all 150s supported, or are there tuner differences, like the 500? |
| [21:05:00] | poop: | Filip: until you need to make alsa work |
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| [21:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, like anything the company could change a tuner tomorrow if they want |
| [21:05:00] | poop: | Then you pray for death's sweet release. |
| [21:05:00] | Filip^: | poop: with the 350 you mean? |
| [21:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | I haven't heard of any 150's being unsupported in a while |
| [21:05:00] | BloodyIron: | anyone here have a PVR-500? |
| [21:06:00] | BloodyIron: | er |
| [21:06:00] | d3ity: | GreyFoxx, hauppage pvr150? i'll look around |
| [21:06:00] | d3ity: | thanksw |
| [21:06:00] | BloodyIron: | hauppauge 500 forget if its pvr |
| [21:06:00] | poop: | Filip: "any card that works with v4l" |
| [21:06:00] | xris: | Beirdo: $.04 away from my first adsense payout... |
| [21:06:00] | xris: | SOOOO close. heh. |
| [21:07:00] | BloodyIron: | ...? |
| [21:07:00] | BloodyIron: | nobody has a PVR-500~? |
| [21:07:00] | Filip^: | poop: aha, okay. I didn't recall having a problems with the 350, even though I'm hardly a wizard |
| [21:07:00] | awstott: | I have a pvr 500 mce |
| [21:07:00] | BloodyIron: | nice |
| [21:07:00] | awstott: | havn't got it working yet tho |
| [21:07:00] | BloodyIron: | aww :/ |
| [21:07:00] | BloodyIron: | how long you been working at it? |
| [21:08:00] | awstott: | I did have something from one tuner tho... it was just static, but I didn't have cable hooked up to it |
| [21:08:00] | awstott: | I havn't actually dilegently worked on it |
| [21:08:00] | evilbuny: | the 500 is the same as a 150 but with 2 tuners on 1 pci card |
| [21:08:00] | awstott: | from start to finish |
| [21:08:00] | BloodyIron: | oh |
| [21:08:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah i know evil |
| [21:08:00] | ** evilbuny has 4 150's in a box working ** | |
| [21:08:00] | awstott: | nice |
| [21:08:00] | BloodyIron: | it can also do two composite out's |
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| [21:08:00] | BloodyIron: | lol |
| [21:08:00] | jasta: | eww, image files in CVS :) |
| [21:08:00] | BloodyIron: | im setting up a 500 and a TV-@nywhere |
| [21:08:00] | BloodyIron: | in my PVR |
| [21:08:00] | evilbuny: | tvanywhere? |
| [21:09:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah |
| [21:09:00] | BloodyIron: | MSi card |
| [21:09:00] | evilbuny: | oh |
| [21:09:00] | evilbuny: | tv out car?D |
| [21:09:00] | BloodyIron: | no |
| [21:09:00] | BloodyIron: | tuner |
| [21:09:00] | BloodyIron: | :O |
| [21:09:00] | evilbuny: | ok |
| [21:09:00] | BloodyIron: | it doesnt do audio accross the bus tho :/ |
| [21:09:00] | BloodyIron: | sniff |
| [21:09:00] | awstott: | I sold my tv anywhere on a local linux list :) |
| [21:09:00] | awstott: | was a pos |
| [21:09:00] | awstott: | I hated that card |
| [21:09:00] | evilbuny: | lol |
| [21:09:00] | BloodyIron: | i have the master version |
| [21:09:00] | BloodyIron: | its good |
| [21:09:00] | awstott: | so did I |
| [21:09:00] | BloodyIron: | why didnnt you like itZ? |
| [21:09:00] | BloodyIron: | -z |
| [21:09:00] | awstott: | I was using it under windows tho |
| [21:10:00] | BloodyIron: | so? |
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| [21:10:00] | awstott: | sound was bad for one |
| [21:10:00] | awstott: | remote never worked |
| [21:10:00] | BloodyIron: | err |
| [21:10:00] | BloodyIron: | i didnt have those problems :/ |
| [21:10:00] | BloodyIron: | maybe bad card? |
| [21:10:00] | awstott: | maybe I got a bad card then |
| [21:10:00] | awstott: | I dunno |
| [21:10:00] | awstott: | didn't like it tho |
| [21:11:00] | awstott: | sold it for 15 buvks |
| [21:11:00] | BloodyIron: | well who would like a malfunctioning card? |
| [21:11:00] | awstott: | bucks |
| [21:11:00] | BloodyIron: | like really |
| [21:11:00] | awstott: | he wanted it for FM |
| [21:11:00] | awstott: | thats it |
| [21:11:00] | BloodyIron: | lol |
| [21:11:00] | awstott: | and that worked |
| [21:11:00] | BloodyIron: | radio sucks :/ |
| [21:11:00] | BloodyIron: | for the most part :O |
| [21:11:00] | pmowry: | The PVR-500 only has one set of each input right? so if you are using DirectTV tuners, one hold connect to the RCA plugs, the other to the TV tuner? |
| [21:12:00] | BloodyIron: | err |
| [21:12:00] | BloodyIron: | come again pm? |
| [21:12:00] | BloodyIron: | are you asking about coax or composite? |
| [21:12:00] | evilbuny: | pmowry: only if you buy the extra rca card |
| [21:12:00] | BloodyIron: | er rca |
| [21:12:00] | d3ity: | the hauppage cards use just RCA correct? i'm not gonna have to kill something because i dont have a composite cable? or can i just use coax? |
| [21:12:00] | BloodyIron: | rathewr |
| [21:12:00] | BloodyIron: | r |
| [21:12:00] | BloodyIron: | the 500 has coax and rca |
| [21:12:00] | evilbuny: | pmowry: the only diff between a 150 and a 500 is an extra tuner chip |
| [21:13:00] | evilbuny: | you can get additional composite inputs for the 150 or 500 cards |
| [21:13:00] | BloodyIron: | only one rca in is available on the board, you need an internal port replicator to get the second set of RCA ports |
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| [21:14:00] | BloodyIron: | am i wrong to think mythtv can handle divx encoding? |
| [21:14:00] | BloodyIron: | and mp3 audio? |
| [21:14:00] | BloodyIron: | a |
| [21:14:00] | BloodyIron: | encoding |
| [21:14:00] | evilbuny: | BloodyIron: probably could but no one has coded it |
| [21:14:00] | Filip^: | can't the 500 encode 2 mpegs in the hardware at the same time? Or does a single chip do double duty for that? |
| [21:14:00] | BloodyIron: | err |
| [21:14:00] | BloodyIron: | what codec can it currently encode to? |
| [21:14:00] | evilbuny: | mpeg2/4 |
| [21:15:00] | BloodyIron: | filip |
| [21:15:00] | BloodyIron: | it has two tuners on it |
| [21:15:00] | BloodyIron: | it can record/watch two at the same time |
| [21:15:00] | BloodyIron: | or one if you want |
| [21:15:00] | BloodyIron: | or watch one and record another |
| [21:15:00] | pmowry: | But you can have one encoder working from the RCA ports, and the second encoder using th tv-tuner and coax port? If you are not using an external cable box both encoders can tune to different channels from the one coax feed. |
| [21:15:00] | BloodyIron: | im not certain, i havnt tried it, but i havnt found anything that would prevent you from doing that pm/ |
| [21:16:00] | awstott: | if you split the coax and had two coax connected you should be able to do that yet |
| [21:16:00] | awstott: | yes* |
| [21:16:00] | BloodyIron: | the coax is one port in, and it handles internally the splitting of channel singals |
| [21:16:00] | BloodyIron: | you dont need two coax connected |
| [21:16:00] | BloodyIron: | you only need one |
| [21:16:00] | BloodyIron: | the other is for fm |
| [21:16:00] | awstott: | really? |
| [21:16:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah |
| [21:16:00] | BloodyIron: | its leet like that |
| [21:16:00] | awstott: | didn't know this card did FM too |
| [21:16:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah it does |
| [21:17:00] | BloodyIron: | :D |
| [21:17:00] | awstott: | I've had this thing for almost a year and never had it working yet |
| [21:17:00] | BloodyIron: | lolol |
| [21:17:00] | evilbuny: | the mce does fm |
| [21:17:00] | evilbuny: | the non-mce doesn't |
| [21:17:00] | BloodyIron: | k |
| [21:17:00] | BloodyIron: | didnt know they didnt make non MCE 500s |
| [21:17:00] | BloodyIron: | can it do audio accross the bus? the non MCEs? |
| [21:18:00] | pmowry: | Since I'm using directtv, I was trying to decide between a PVR-500 or a pair of 150s in the same box. My main card is a 350, I was using a cheap tuner with software encoding. Decided I'd rather have similar encoders so using the hardware playback of the 350 does not have any issues with recordings from the others. |
| [21:18:00] | BloodyIron: | pci-bus |
| [21:18:00] | evilbuny: | pmowry: go 500 |
| [21:18:00] | BloodyIron: | how do you want to connect your directtv to the pc? |
| [21:19:00] | BloodyIron: | coax or rca? |
| [21:19:00] | evilbuny: | bout the same cost as 2x150s |
| [21:19:00] | awstott: | my 500 was like 20 bucks more than a 150 I think |
| [21:19:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah my 500 wasnt much more than a single 150 too |
| [21:19:00] | awstott: | same price as a 350 |
| [21:20:00] | BloodyIron: | whats the big obsession with the 350? |
| [21:20:00] | pmowry: | wow, gotta look for that deal. I do not think my eyes will tell a difference between recodings using composite of the tuner. |
| [21:21:00] | BloodyIron: | if you can do coax pm for both streams I would recommend it |
| [21:21:00] | BloodyIron: | as with the 500 you will need to dedicate another expansion slot for the second set of RCA ports |
| [21:21:00] | pmowry: | My main system is a P3–550, so the hardware decode was appealing for CPU issues. |
| [21:21:00] | BloodyIron: | and you will need to buy the adapter for it, dunno how much it is |
| [21:21:00] | BloodyIron: | you gonna do any recording there pm? |
| [21:22:00] | Filip^: | just to clear this up for me. the tuners don't actually record right? they are just used for sending data from the right frequency to the downstream chips, that do the actual encoding |
| [21:22:00] | Filip^: | so you have 2 of those too |
| [21:22:00] | BloodyIron: | umm downstream chips? |
| [21:22:00] | Filip^: | yes, like the mpeg2 encoder chip |
| [21:22:00] | BloodyIron: | IIRC the card is listed as having two independant mpeg rendering engines |
| [21:22:00] | Filip^: | right, ok |
| [21:22:00] | pmowry: | BloodyIron: The P3 system with a PVR-350 is my only recording system right now. |
| [21:22:00] | Filip^: | so two tuners, and two encoders, etc |
| [21:23:00] | BloodyIron: | how else would it work by having two channels being recorded independantly? |
| [21:23:00] | BloodyIron: | ouch pm, at 550mhz you wont get much performance recording done :/ |
| [21:23:00] | BloodyIron: | im setting my PVR up on a 2500+ |
| [21:23:00] | Filip^: | i agree, but for a moment there i thought you thought the tuners did that |
| [21:23:00] | BloodyIron: | im unsure |
| [21:24:00] | BloodyIron: | i havnt taken an indepth look at the card's ICs |
| [21:24:00] | BloodyIron: | just the two big mofuggin tuners on it |
| [21:24:00] | BloodyIron: | and some other interesting stuff |
| [21:24:00] | BloodyIron: | its actually a rather large card :O |
| [21:24:00] | Filip^: | tuners are huge compared to the rest |
| [21:24:00] | pmowry: | I've been using it for about 2 years now, 300Gb drive is always full. Other systems have come and gone as frontend/slave backends. But the poor little P3 just keeps chugging along. //Gotta run, wife needs me to carry the bags while doing last minute xmas shopping. |
| [21:24:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah i know, cuz they gotta be shielded n stuff |
| [21:25:00] | Filip^: | makes sense |
| [21:25:00] | BloodyIron: | what recording settings you using pm? |
| [21:25:00] | BloodyIron: | bah |
| [21:25:00] | BloodyIron: | i havnt gotten to the back end part of mythtv yet |
| [21:25:00] | BloodyIron: | ive been trying on and off the last little while, i think im getting closer, my problem was not knowing linux enough :/ |
| [21:25:00] | Filip^: | what distro? |
| [21:25:00] | BloodyIron: | what codecs can mythtv by default encode to? |
| [21:25:00] | BloodyIron: | gentoo, im doing 2005.1 right now |
| [21:25:00] | ** awstott prods his slow DSL connection ** | |
| [21:25:00] | BloodyIron: | heh |
| [21:26:00] | awstott: | wish this box was on my cable connection instead of DSL |
| [21:26:00] | awstott: | I don't have another IP tho :( |
| [21:26:00] | ** BloodyIron strokes his 7mbit down 1mbit up connection ** | |
| [21:26:00] | Filip^: | so you want to use a 500? |
| [21:26:00] | awstott: | omg |
| [21:26:00] | awstott: | BloodyIron is in calgary |
| [21:26:00] | BloodyIron: | .... |
| [21:26:00] | ** awstott is edmonton ** | |
| [21:26:00] | BloodyIron: | LIUES |
| [21:26:00] | BloodyIron: | LIES |
| [21:26:00] | BloodyIron: | more like deadmonton! |
| [21:26:00] | awstott: | you're in edmonton? |
| [21:26:00] | BloodyIron: | im using a 500 and a MSI tv-@nywhere |
| [21:26:00] | BloodyIron: | no |
| [21:26:00] | BloodyIron: | if i were in edmonton i would leave |
| [21:26:00] | awstott: | pfft |
| [21:26:00] | awstott: | calgary sucks the big one |
| [21:26:00] | BloodyIron: | im in calgary |
| [21:26:00] | BloodyIron: | uhh no |
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| [21:27:00] | pmowry: | Don't remember offhand, but the mpeg files are about 2.2Gb an hour. With the PVR-350 all mpeg encode/decode is in hardware. So the box runs mythtv and asterisk. Since it is not good for anything else it's the only machine in the house i leave alone (except for keeping up with SVN versions of each). |
| [21:27:00] | awstott: | I'm actually on 3web, and not shaw |
| [21:27:00] | BloodyIron: | it just dumps the videos into mpeg format? |
| [21:27:00] | BloodyIron: | heh |
| [21:27:00] | BloodyIron: | i used 3web back when it was free dialup |
| [21:27:00] | quicksilver: | yes, the .nuv files are MPEG2 really |
| [21:27:00] | awstott: | I should go to the 7mbit package |
| [21:27:00] | BloodyIron: | that was the whole point of 3web |
| [21:27:00] | BloodyIron: | free internet |
| [21:28:00] | awstott: | they just resell shaw... for cheaper :) |
| [21:28:00] | BloodyIron: | i ran an 8 person Quake 1 server on it, and played on it on the same machine, and gave up to 8 cable users 60 ping and 0 PL |
| [21:28:00] | BloodyIron: | those were sweet days |
| [21:28:00] | awstott: | telus dsl sucks |
| [21:28:00] | BloodyIron: | shaw is good routing |
| [21:28:00] | Filip^: | what's asterisk? |
| [21:28:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah telus dsl does blow the big one |
| [21:28:00] | quicksilver: | it's a VoIP exchange program |
| [21:28:00] | Filip^: | like skype? |
| [21:29:00] | awstott: | the port blocking sucks the big one |
| [21:29:00] | quicksilver: | like a telephone exchange for routing internet calls |
| [21:29:00] | quicksilver: | yeah |
| [21:29:00] | BloodyIron: | how easy is it to encode out of mythtv's files? |
| [21:29:00] | Filip^: | okay. any good? |
| [21:29:00] | BloodyIron: | what kinda port blocking on telus? lol |
| [21:29:00] | Filip^: | BloodyIron: emerge nuvexport |
| [21:29:00] | BloodyIron: | k thx |
| [21:29:00] | awstott: | port 23,25,110,80,6667 to name a few are blocked |
| [21:29:00] | BloodyIron: | im rather new to linux, is it possible to automate conversions? |
| [21:30:00] | BloodyIron: | lol block 6667 |
| [21:30:00] | BloodyIron: | fuck telus :/ |
| [21:30:00] | awstott: | just incoming |
| [21:30:00] | BloodyIron: | er |
| [21:30:00] | BloodyIron: | are there language rules in this channel? |
| [21:30:00] | awstott: | you can connect to ircds, just can't have naything incoming on those ports |
| [21:30:00] | BloodyIron: | not even file transfers? |
| [21:30:00] | awstott: | nope |
| [21:30:00] | awstott: | oh and 21 is blocked too |
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| [21:30:00] | Filip^: | BloodyIron: you mean after encoding, to convert it to something else than mpeg2? |
| [21:31:00] | BloodyIron: | yeha |
| [21:31:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah like divx |
| [21:31:00] | BloodyIron: | i like divx :) |
| [21:31:00] | awstott: | 147kB/s |
| [21:31:00] | awstott: | smoking speed |
| [21:31:00] | Filip^: | Never done it, but it should be easy enough. I think myth provides a lot of options for that. |
| [21:31:00] | BloodyIron: | 800–1200kB/s down :D |
| [21:31:00] | BloodyIron: | up to 150kB/s up :D |
| [21:31:00] | awstott: | I get 600 on here |
| [21:31:00] | awstott: | only have 5mbit |
| [21:32:00] | Filip^: | goodnight canadians. it's bedtime here |
| [21:32:00] | awstott: | nite |
| [21:32:00] | BloodyIron: | night filip |
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| [21:33:00] | awstott: | only reason i'm setting this is really is cuz my sister doesn't have cable and wants to get some shows that you can't readily download |
| [21:33:00] | BloodyIron: | ahh |
| [21:33:00] | BloodyIron: | thats a rather big task for that :O |
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| [21:34:00] | awstott: | lol |
| [21:35:00] | psofa: | can i edit mythtv so that theres a new option in the main menu which just executes a command? |
| [21:35:00] | awstott: | well I have access to a 100mbit ftp that has all the primetime shows on it |
| [21:35:00] | awstott: | mostly HDTV quality |
| [21:35:00] | BloodyIron: | ahh |
| [21:35:00] | BloodyIron: | HDTV recording is a headache >< |
| [21:36:00] | awstott: | but yah... 20 mins after the show airs I can download it |
| [21:36:00] | awstott: | I can usually be watching it before it airs here |
| [21:36:00] | BloodyIron: | lol |
| [21:36:00] | BloodyIron: | so why do you need a PVR? |
| [21:36:00] | awstott: | cuz some shows I watch aren't on the ftp |
| [21:37:00] | BloodyIron: | yay im getting closer to finishing configuring my kernel :D |
| [21:37:00] | BloodyIron: | oh |
| [21:37:00] | BloodyIron: | such as? |
| [21:37:00] | awstott: | grr |
| [21:37:00] | awstott: | breezy froze up on me again |
| [21:37:00] | BloodyIron: | ? |
| [21:38:00] | awstott: | screen saver comes on and it freezes up |
| [21:38:00] | awstott: | happens all the time |
| [21:38:00] | BloodyIron: | haha |
| [21:38:00] | BloodyIron: | that sucks |
| [21:38:00] | BloodyIron: | what is breezy? |
| [21:38:00] | awstott: | ubuntu |
| [21:38:00] | BloodyIron: | errr i forget what that is |
| [21:39:00] | awstott: | debian based distro |
| [21:39:00] | BloodyIron: | ahh |
| [21:39:00] | awstott: | I can do stuff through ssh, but anything attached to that computer I can't |
| [21:39:00] | BloodyIron: | heh |
| [21:39:00] | BloodyIron: | why not.... turn off screen saver? |
| [21:39:00] | BloodyIron: | or... fix it? |
| [21:39:00] | awstott: | I tried fixing it |
| [21:40:00] | awstott: | but I dont know whats causing it |
| [21:40:00] | BloodyIron: | hmm |
| [21:40:00] | BloodyIron: | bug report it or something? |
| [21:41:00] | awstott: | even after killing gdm I can't get the screensaver off the screen |
| [21:41:00] | BloodyIron: | hooray now i can compile my kernel! :D |
| [21:41:00] | BloodyIron: | gdm? |
| [21:41:00] | awstott: | gnome display manager |
| [21:42:00] | BloodyIron: | ahh |
| [21:42:00] | BloodyIron: | reinitialize x? |
| [21:43:00] | awstott: | did that |
| [21:43:00] | BloodyIron: | :O |
| [21:43:00] | BloodyIron: | video bug perhaps? |
| [21:43:00] | BloodyIron: | what card? |
| [21:43:00] | awstott: | M_Cheevy in #ubuntu. With the msg of : awstott: still I'd kill the gdm stuff for the now, smash x on the head with a+c+b and then reconfig xserver |
| [21:43:00] | awstott: | thats what they told me last nite |
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| [21:43:00] | awstott: | so I did |
| [21:43:00] | awstott: | it's a radeon 9000 pro |
| [21:43:00] | BloodyIron: | hmm |
| [21:44:00] | BloodyIron: | ati in linux sounds like a bad plan to me :/ |
| [21:44:00] | BloodyIron: | thats why im switching to nvidia :D |
| [21:44:00] | awstott: | my nvidia card is out on loan to someone |
| [21:44:00] | BloodyIron: | aww :/ |
| [21:44:00] | BloodyIron: | which one? |
| [21:44:00] | awstott: | fx5600 |
| [21:44:00] | BloodyIron: | ... |
| [21:44:00] | BloodyIron: | u... LOANEd that out? |
| [21:44:00] | awstott: | lol |
| [21:44:00] | awstott: | yah |
| [21:44:00] | BloodyIron: | why not loan out your 9000? |
| [21:45:00] | awstott: | it died on me, and I replaced it with a 9600xt |
| [21:45:00] | awstott: | my 9000 was in my dad's machine at the time |
| [21:45:00] | BloodyIron: | im confused |
| [21:45:00] | BloodyIron: | which one died? |
| [21:45:00] | BloodyIron: | and which ones do you have now? |
| [21:45:00] | awstott: | 5600 |
| [21:45:00] | abarbaccia: | ati isn't half bad really – all my newer boxes use an ati9100 for TV out |
| [21:45:00] | awstott: | abarbaccia have you ever had this problem/ |
| [21:45:00] | abarbaccia: | which one ? |
| [21:45:00] | awstott: | it happens every time I install breezy |
| [21:45:00] | abarbaccia: | i wasnt paying attention |
| [21:45:00] | BloodyIron: | you should have gotten the 9800 instead of the 9600 xt, it has 256bit ram instead of 128 (the 9600s have 128bit ram) |
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| [21:46:00] | awstott: | gui locks up after screensaver comes on |
| [21:46:00] | abarbaccia: | 9600xt is a much better card than the 9800 |
| [21:46:00] | abarbaccia: | so kill the screensavers |
| [21:46:00] | BloodyIron: | heh i beg to differ |
| [21:46:00] | abarbaccia: | which 9800 |
| [21:46:00] | awstott: | well anyays... |
| [21:46:00] | BloodyIron: | 128mb pro |
| [21:46:00] | abarbaccia: | 9800xt is good – 9800pro is decent |
| [21:46:00] | awstott: | the 9600xt is sitting on my desk collecting dust |
| [21:46:00] | abarbaccia: | alright yea, but 9800 nonpro isnt too great |
| [21:46:00] | awstott: | replace it with an x800 pro I think |
| [21:47:00] | BloodyIron: | bleh |
| [21:47:00] | BloodyIron: | get a 7800 gtx 512 |
| [21:47:00] | BloodyIron: | :O |
| [21:47:00] | abarbaccia: | awstott, sudo apt-get remove xscreensaver |
| [21:47:00] | BloodyIron: | baller in a hat |
| [21:47:00] | abarbaccia: | that's what i'd do |
| [21:47:00] | awstott: | pfft iain't rich |
| [21:47:00] | BloodyIron: | k 7800gt 256 |
| [21:47:00] | BloodyIron: | er gtx |
| [21:47:00] | awstott: | i'll reboot and turn em off |
| [21:47:00] | awstott: | and see what happens |
| [21:47:00] | otwin: | psofa: have a look at mainmenu.xml – <action> EXEC /path/to/command </action> should do it |
| [21:47:00] | abarbaccia: | awstott – just remove them |
| [21:47:00] | abarbaccia: | they are worthless anyways |
| [21:47:00] | BloodyIron: | this is so over my head :O |
| [21:48:00] | awstott: | I never see em anyways... I have that box on a kvm |
| [21:48:00] | awstott: | and spend most of my time over here |
| [21:48:00] | BloodyIron: | heh go kvm! |
| [21:48:00] | awstott: | 4 port |
| [21:48:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah :D |
| [21:48:00] | abarbaccia: | wtf are you doing with a 4 port kvm |
| [21:48:00] | BloodyIron: | i have a zonet 4 port/ |
| [21:48:00] | abarbaccia: | damn |
| [21:48:00] | awstott: | it's a belkin with all the audio and stuff |
| [21:48:00] | awstott: | i have 5 machines in here |
| [21:48:00] | abarbaccia: | i had a router that was 4 port once.... |
| [21:48:00] | BloodyIron: | bleh belkin :/ |
| [21:48:00] | awstott: | and enuff parts to build another |
| [21:48:00] | awstott: | plus 2 more upstairs |
| [21:49:00] | abarbaccia: | u gotta use vnc |
| [21:49:00] | abarbaccia: | kvm is nice – but expensive |
| [21:49:00] | BloodyIron: | err i dunno how to ask this |
| [21:49:00] | abarbaccia: | esp for the wires right? |
| [21:49:00] | BloodyIron: | but i wanna access an x server in windows which is hosted on a linux box |
| [21:50:00] | abarbaccia: | you can do it |
| [21:50:00] | awstott: | vnc is the bomb |
| [21:50:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah but i dunno what its called, or what options are available |
| [21:50:00] | abarbaccia: | run a vnc server on the linux box and then on the windows machine run the vnc client |
| [21:50:00] | BloodyIron: | and to what degree of functionality i can have |
| [21:50:00] | abarbaccia: | download.com and search for vnc |
| [21:50:00] | abarbaccia: | you have full control over x |
| [21:50:00] | BloodyIron: | are there any other options from vnc? |
| [21:50:00] | abarbaccia: | i'm sure there are – but for that – google knows more |
| [21:50:00] | BloodyIron: | is vnc different in linux from windows? |
| [21:50:00] | abarbaccia: | its a protocol |
| [21:50:00] | abarbaccia: | so no |
| [21:50:00] | BloodyIron: | k |
| [21:51:00] | BloodyIron: | im not the biggest fan of it :/ |
| [21:51:00] | BloodyIron: | but thx :) |
| [21:51:00] | abarbaccia: | alright i'm outta here |
| [21:51:00] | abarbaccia: | later |
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| [21:52:00] | awstott: | wow thats slow over a gbit link |
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| [21:53:00] | awstott: | helps if I accept the session on the other side i guess :P |
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| [21:55:00] | riksta: | hey, can you cat two mpgs together |
| [21:55:00] | evilbuny: | awstott: I have a working breezy setup |
| [21:56:00] | evilbuny: | complete freezes usually indicate irq conflicts |
| [21:56:00] | BloodyIron: | no good :O |
| [21:56:00] | awstott: | it's weird tho, cuz this machine runs like a champ on hoary and sarge |
| [21:56:00] | BloodyIron: | cat two mpegs? |
| [21:56:00] | BloodyIron: | hoary? sarge? |
| [21:57:00] | evilbuny: | sarge = debian |
| [21:57:00] | evilbuny: | hoary is the previous stable version of ubuntu |
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| [22:00:00] | evilbuny: | awstott: although I have 1 mythtv-frontend problem, it crashes every now and then and i have gdm auto setup to relogin but it's annoying |
| [22:00:00] | evilbuny: | ubuntu breezy packages |
| [22:00:00] | BloodyIron: | how do you handle your front end evilbuny? |
| [22:00:00] | evilbuny: | .xsession |
| [22:00:00] | evilbuny: | when gdm auto logs in, it calls myth from that |
| [22:01:00] | BloodyIron: | is it on the same machine as hte back end? |
| [22:01:00] | evilbuny: | yup |
| [22:01:00] | BloodyIron: | oh |
| [22:01:00] | BloodyIron: | thought you were doing it over the network :O |
| [22:01:00] | BloodyIron: | thats what im gonna be aiming to do |
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| [22:01:00] | evilbuny: | BloodyIron: i can do that too |
| [22:01:00] | evilbuny: | have a box in the basement hooked up to a tv |
| [22:01:00] | BloodyIron: | how do you have it is setup for that? |
| [22:02:00] | BloodyIron: | how do you run the front end? |
| [22:02:00] | evilbuny: | the tv out is setup as a diff desktop to the main monitor |
| [22:02:00] | evilbuny: | i also have a couple of laptop running streams over wireless too :) |
| [22:02:00] | evilbuny: | but i haven't worked out how to run it over the internet |
| [22:02:00] | BloodyIron: | explain your front end system to me pls |
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| [22:03:00] | BloodyIron: | im trying to find the best option for me, and i dont think i like vnc :/ |
| [22:03:00] | Krazyleg1: | Remote X? |
| [22:03:00] | evilbuny: | i have a pc sitting next to my tv running mythback/front |
| [22:03:00] | evilbuny: | with 4 150 tuner cards |
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| [22:03:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah remote x, how does that work? |
| [22:03:00] | evilbuny: | i don't use remote x |
| [22:03:00] | cosmo_: | what if commerical detection was distributed? |
| [22:04:00] | Krazylegz_: | You connect to the X "Server" from your Windows X "Client". |
| [22:04:00] | evilbuny: | cosmo_: why? |
| [22:04:00] | cosmo_: | we could have a daemon contact servers upstream that would check and see if certain periodic frames have been marked by the general population |
| [22:04:00] | cosmo_: | so it would increase the success rate |
| [22:05:00] | BloodyIron: | what windows x clients are there for win32? |
| [22:05:00] | evilbuny: | cosmo_: i can run 4 recording jobs and commercial detection at the same time without any problems |
| [22:05:00] | Krazylegz_: | I used to do something like: ssh into Linux server; xhost + myIP; export DISPLAY=myIP:0.0; xterm & |
| [22:05:00] | Krazylegz_: | Cygwin, some others. |
| [22:05:00] | cosmo_: | evilbuny, hows your success rate? |
| [22:05:00] | evilbuny: | no problems and no load virtually |
| [22:05:00] | Krazylegz_: | BloodyIron: Not sure what you're using it for, though. |
| [22:05:00] | BloodyIron: | well i have win32 on my main box here, and im puttting linux on my pvr |
| [22:05:00] | Krazylegz_: | XWin is another one. |
| [22:05:00] | Krazylegz_: | Okay. |
| [22:05:00] | BloodyIron: | i want my pvr to do the rendering and work n stuff, but watch the stuff on my win32 box |
| [22:06:00] | BloodyIron: | XWin/ |
| [22:06:00] | evilbuny: | remote X won't help with sound will it? |
| [22:06:00] | BloodyIron: | ? |
| [22:06:00] | Krazylegz_: | Hmm. No, I wouldn't use X remotely for that, or even VNC. |
| [22:06:00] | BloodyIron: | hmm |
| [22:06:00] | BloodyIron: | what should I use? |
| [22:06:00] | Krazylegz_: | Myth. |
| [22:06:00] | BloodyIron: | it has its own front end? |
| [22:06:00] | Krazylegz_: | Use it the way it was designed. |
| [22:06:00] | BloodyIron: | ? |
| [22:07:00] | Krazylegz_: | Yeah, MythTV has a backend/frontend design, so that you can do all of your recording on the backend, and the viewing/controlling from the fronted. |
| [22:07:00] | BloodyIron: | nifty |
| [22:07:00] | BloodyIron: | are there win32 binaries for the front end? |
| [22:07:00] | Krazylegz_: | Backend/frontend design is actually called client/server. |
| [22:07:00] | Krazylegz_: | There's something, I forget the exact name. |
| [22:07:00] | BloodyIron: | is it 1st party myth or 3rd party? |
| [22:07:00] | evilbuny: | only thing i've seen is a nuv codec for windows |
| [22:08:00] | Krazylegz_: | Not totally sure. |
| [22:08:00] | awstott: | I'm pretty sure there is a front end for windows |
| [22:08:00] | awstott: | I downloaded it not knowing what it was |
| [22:08:00] | Krazylegz_: | http://winmyth.sourceforge.net/ |
| [22:08:00] | Krazylegz_: | I guess you could also run MythFrontend in Cygwin. That would be fun. |
| [22:09:00] | ** awstott goes to get some pepsi so he can wake up ** | |
| [22:09:00] | BloodyIron: | how is myth front end for like fps and audio quality?> |
| [22:09:00] | immolo: | winmyth? |
| [22:09:00] | BloodyIron: | any idea how much bandwidth it uses? |
| [22:09:00] | evilbuny: | BloodyIron: a fair bit |
| [22:10:00] | BloodyIron: | any est? |
| [22:10:00] | Krazylegz_: | You wouldn't want to use 802.11b, but I hear that g is good. |
| [22:10:00] | awstott: | guaranteed you wouldn't be able to watch it through the internet without lag |
| [22:10:00] | BloodyIron: | aww :/ |
| [22:10:00] | evilbuny: | Krazylegz: i've managed 3 streams on 11g |
| [22:10:00] | BloodyIron: | isnt 1mbit supposed to be enogh bandwidth for watching dvds tho? |
| [22:10:00] | immolo: | BloodyIron, I run my frontend on a diskless box and the bandwidth doesn't kill my 100mb/sec lan |
| [22:10:00] | BloodyIron: | technically? |
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| [22:10:00] | Krazylegz_: | BloodyIron: Do you just want to watch your recordings and videos from your Windows system, or actually use Myth from there? |
| [22:10:00] | BloodyIron: | half n half |
| [22:10:00] | ** Krazylegz_ wonders if BloodyIron can do everything he needs from MythWeb ** | |
| [22:10:00] | BloodyIron: | sometimes wanna watch live shiz |
| [22:10:00] | BloodyIron: | mythweb? |
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| [22:10:00] | Krazylegz_: | Ah, LiveTV isn't going to work too well from MythWeb. |
| [22:11:00] | Krazylegz_: | Yay! |
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| [22:11:00] | BloodyIron: | spose an AMD 2500+ /w 512megs of ram can handle 3 encodings simultaneously? |
| [22:12:00] | Krazylegz: | BloodyIron: Actually.....how fast is your backend server, and what kind of bandwidth will you have? |
| [22:12:00] | ** Krazylegz just got a fresh lemon for his thinking cap ** | |
| [22:12:00] | Krazylegz: | BloodyIron: I don't think so. |
| [22:12:00] | BloodyIron: | the backend is an AMD 2500+ XP, with 512megs, i think its either pc2700 or 3200, i forget |
| [22:12:00] | evilbuny: | BloodyIron: mpeg encoder chip? |
| [22:12:00] | BloodyIron: | 1x PVR-500MCE |
| [22:12:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, use hardware MPEG encoders. |
| [22:12:00] | BloodyIron: | 1x MSI-TV-@nywhere |
| [22:13:00] | BloodyIron: | arent they hardware encoders? |
| [22:13:00] | evilbuny: | BloodyIron: i do 4 on a 3100+ duron |
| [22:13:00] | Krazylegz: | That's only 1 encoding stream, right? |
| [22:13:00] | Krazylegz: | I don't know what the MSI is. |
| [22:13:00] | BloodyIron: | krazy the 500's are dual tuners |
| [22:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Right. |
| [22:13:00] | BloodyIron: | with IIRC dual mpeg encoders |
| [22:13:00] | Krazylegz: | If the MSI is a hardware encoder, then you're probably fine. |
| [22:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Correct. |
| [22:13:00] | BloodyIron: | and IIRC the MSI has an mpeg encoder too |
| [22:13:00] | kormoc: | but does it have a driver? |
| [22:13:00] | Krazylegz: | If it does, then you're fine. |
| [22:14:00] | BloodyIron: | im not sure kor |
| [22:14:00] | BloodyIron: | it uses a standard conextant tuner or something, i forget |
| [22:14:00] | BloodyIron: | want me to lspci? |
| [22:14:00] | kormoc: | sure |
| [22:14:00] | BloodyIron: | full dump or snips? |
| [22:14:00] | kormoc: | pastebin.ca would work for a full dump |
| [22:14:00] | BloodyIron: | 02:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) |
| [22:14:00] | BloodyIron: | 02:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) |
| [22:14:00] | BloodyIron: | that is one snip |
| [22:14:00] | BloodyIron: | let me get the other parts |
| [22:15:00] | BloodyIron: | 00:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05) |
| [22:15:00] | BloodyIron: | 00:09.1 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder [Audio Port] (rev 05) |
| [22:15:00] | BloodyIron: | thats the other |
| [22:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Decoder? |
| [22:15:00] | BloodyIron: | thats all the relevant material i could find in lspci |
| [22:15:00] | BloodyIron: | remember, i have a 500 MCE and the tv-@nywhere in right now |
| [22:16:00] | BloodyIron: | seems like the 500 tuner's report as encoders directly :O |
| [22:16:00] | evilbuny: | BloodyIron: they are |
| [22:16:00] | Krazylegz: | Sure. |
| [22:16:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [22:16:00] | kormoc: | I don't think the MSI is a hardware encoder |
| [22:16:00] | praet: | BloodyIron what are you trying to do |
| [22:16:00] | BloodyIron: | wIERd |
| [22:16:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, anyway, I was going to say that you could do LiveTV without time-shifting if you used vlc. |
| [22:16:00] | BloodyIron: | err a lot of things praet |
| [22:17:00] | BloodyIron: | im gonna lok the card up again and find out |
| [22:17:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah i wouldnt want to time shift |
| [22:17:00] | praet: | you want to watch nuv on windows? |
| [22:17:00] | kormoc: | http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/cx88.html |
| [22:17:00] | BloodyIron: | that would be death to the head |
| [22:17:00] | BloodyIron: | prast, i want to re-encode the produced files into divx |
| [22:17:00] | kormoc: | http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Cx88_devices_(cx2388x) |
| [22:17:00] | BloodyIron: | and be able to either watch live tv via a front end |
| [22:17:00] | BloodyIron: | or watch the videos over the network (like smb or something, dunno yet, maybe ftp) |
| [22:18:00] | praet: | you can use dsmyth on winbox and mythweb pointing to share folders to play recordings / livetv in vlc |
| [22:18:00] | kormoc: | BloodyIron, you know the files are named stuff like 231851582058320532.nuv right? |
| [22:18:00] | BloodyIron: | dsmyth? what is that? |
| [22:18:00] | BloodyIron: | lol rly kor? |
| [22:18:00] | BloodyIron: | no i didnt know 5that |
| [22:18:00] | BloodyIron: | i havnt had a chance to actually get it to a working stage yet |
| [22:18:00] | praet: | kormoc mythweb points to the right files tho :) |
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| [22:18:00] | praet: | BloodyIron share your recordings folder in a samba |
| [22:19:00] | Krazyleg1: | kormoc: A simple page using PHP and vlc will fix that pretty easily. |
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| [22:19:00] | kormoc: | praet, yeah, but that's not via smb |
| [22:19:00] | praet: | then edit mythweb to use the hostname in the videos folder like \\mythtv\videos |
| [22:19:00] | kormoc: | Krazyleg1, meh. there is xris's make pretty which hardlinks files with nice names |
| [22:19:00] | Krazyleg1: | Yeah, you can do that too. |
| [22:19:00] | Krazyleg1: | Then there's also MythStreamTV, so less work there too. |
| [22:20:00] | praet: | in dsmyth set the *nuv player to vlc and then click on the recordings to watch :) |
| [22:20:00] | BloodyIron: | why does it output to generated names instead of relevant names? |
| [22:20:00] | BloodyIron: | like title of series + episode? |
| [22:20:00] | Krazyleg1: | They have to do with the time, channel, etc. |
| [22:20:00] | BloodyIron: | bleh :/ |
| [22:20:00] | Krazyleg1: | You can make links like that if you want, but Myth's way is more organized. |
| [22:20:00] | kormoc: | BloodyIron, they are relevant names, the channel id, start time, end time |
| [22:20:00] | praet: | there is myth pretty scripts to get frindly names |
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| [22:21:00] | BloodyIron: | http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp . . . where_Master |
| [22:21:00] | kormoc: | Krazyleg1, xris' script auto scans and makes links in a des dir on the fly, it's rather nice |
| [22:21:00] | kormoc: | BloodyIron, did you read the links I posted to the driver about your card |
| [22:21:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, I forgot about his script. |
| [22:21:00] | kormoc: | BloodyIron, it's not a hardware encoder. |
| [22:21:00] | BloodyIron: | not yet |
| [22:21:00] | praet: | BloodyIron you could also boot to knoppmyth when you want to use it as a frontend.. just make sure you have the same version myth |
| [22:21:00] | BloodyIron: | nuts :/ |
| [22:21:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, this MSI card is an MPEG4 encoder card. |
| [22:21:00] | Krazylegz: | Fancy. |
| [22:21:00] | BloodyIron: | ? |
| [22:21:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah :D |
| [22:22:00] | BloodyIron: | thats a good point praet |
| [22:22:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, not nessessarly |
| [22:22:00] | praet: | kormoc whers xris script? |
| [22:22:00] | BloodyIron: | i was hoping tho i could use it while in windows tho, so i could watch tv while like chatting or osmething |
| [22:22:00] | BloodyIron: | im a mad multi tasker :D |
| [22:22:00] | kormoc: | praet, not sure, would have to ask him |
| [22:22:00] | BloodyIron: | krazylegs you still think its not hardware? :( |
| [22:22:00] | praet: | BloodyIron : dsmyth.sourceforge.net |
| [22:22:00] | Krazylegz: | What? It IS hardware. Hardware MPEG4 encoder. |
| [22:22:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, notice it lists the mpeg1/2/4 as under software features, not hardware |
| [22:23:00] | Krazylegz: | kormoc: No. I refuse to read down that far. |
| [22:23:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, it lists no encoder under hardware features |
| [22:23:00] | BloodyIron: | ahh is it dsmyth a win32 app that decodes nuv files? |
| [22:23:00] | Krazylegz: | It doesn't list a price either. Hmm. |
| [22:23:00] | Krazylegz: | MPEG4 cards are generally much more expensive. |
| [22:23:00] | BloodyIron: | well kraz, mpeg4 is what i want, isnt divx mpeg4? |
| [22:24:00] | BloodyIron: | it was about $100 CAD |
| [22:24:00] | BloodyIron: | very affordable |
| [22:24:00] | Krazylegz: | BloodyIron: Yes. As kormoc says, I'm thinking that it's NOT an MPEG4 hardware encoder card. |
| [22:24:00] | BloodyIron: | nuts :/ |
| [22:24:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes, DivX/XviD are MPEG4 formats. |
| [22:25:00] | BloodyIron: | so if its not hardware, what defines it as mpeg4? |
| [22:25:00] | Krazylegz: | Still, having to encode 1 input to MPEG2/4 is better than 3. |
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| [22:25:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah |
| [22:25:00] | BloodyIron: | how much processor use you think it would use? |
| [22:25:00] | Krazylegz: | BloodyIron: Sounds like it just happens to come with software that encodes your recordings to MPEG4. |
| [22:25:00] | Krazylegz: | A good chunk. |
| [22:25:00] | BloodyIron: | since I would still want to encode a lot of it into divx |
| [22:25:00] | BloodyIron: | i see |
| [22:26:00] | Krazylegz: | How much are you recording? |
| [22:26:00] | OhNoNotHim: | I am unable to connect to my mysql database (trying to run mythtvbackend for the first time as well as mythtv setup) |
| [22:26:00] | OhNoNotHim: | im running gentoo |
| [22:26:00] | Krazylegz: | The backend can just encode to MPEG4 during off peak hours. |
| [22:26:00] | praet: | OhNoNotHim can you connect to mysql from the terminal |
| [22:26:00] | OhNoNotHim: | "Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [22:26:00] | BloodyIron: | krazy probably a fair ammount, not 100% of hte time tho |
| [22:27:00] | praet: | OhNoNotHim run mysql -u root -p |
| [22:27:00] | BloodyIron: | does mysql have a pwd by default for root? |
| [22:27:00] | Krazylegz: | BloodyIron: I should hope not. There's not that much good television on. |
| [22:27:00] | BloodyIron: | well depends where you are really |
| [22:27:00] | OhNoNotHim: | praet: ok, im in the MySQL monitor |
| [22:28:00] | OhNoNotHim: | praet: what do i need to do now? |
| [22:28:00] | praet: | ok now you have to set the mythtv password, as well as grant access to the db |
| [22:28:00] | poop: | Damn it, that chick on radio paradise wasn't Shakira. All that shaking in my imagine was FAKE. |
| [22:28:00] | evilbuny: | BloodyIron: mysql defaults vary by distro |
| [22:28:00] | poop: | imagination |
| [22:28:00] | BloodyIron: | k |
| [22:28:00] | evilbuny: | although launching mysql via mysqld --skip-grant |
| [22:28:00] | evilbuny: | ignores permission table |
| [22:29:00] | evilbuny: | so no password :) |
| [22:29:00] | OhNoNotHim: | praet: how do i grant mythtv access to the db? |
| [22:30:00] | OhNoNotHim: | praet: and is the syntax for setting the mythtv password mysqladmin -u mythtv password new-password |
| [22:30:00] | OhNoNotHim: | ? |
| [22:30:00] | praet: | yeah you can do that |
| [22:30:00] | OhNoNotHim: | praet: is the password initially password? |
| [22:30:00] | praet: | i was lloking up the update user password('') |
| [22:30:00] | OhNoNotHim: | like it was for root? |
| [22:31:00] | praet: | set it to mythtv or waht ever |
| [22:31:00] | praet: | i think the default for myth is u: mythtv p: mythtv |
| [22:33:00] | praet: | OhNoNotHim then run "flush privileges;" |
| [22:33:00] | praet: | then exit and try to login with mythtv |
| [22:33:00] | praet: | OhNoNotHim run mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg |
| [22:34:00] | OhNoNotHim: | it says enter password |
| [22:34:00] | OhNoNotHim: | do i put the root one in? |
| [22:34:00] | praet: | put the one for mythtv |
| [22:34:00] | praet: | whatever you just set it too |
| [22:34:00] | OhNoNotHim: | i couldnt |
| [22:34:00] | BloodyIron: | im gonna go finish installing gentoo on my box |
| [22:35:00] | BloodyIron: | if you guys need me say my name |
| [22:35:00] | BloodyIron: | it beeps me |
| [22:35:00] | praet: | BloodyIron |
| [22:35:00] | praet: | :) |
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| [22:35:00] | BloodyIron: | like so |
| [22:35:00] | BloodyIron: | afk |
| [22:35:00] | OhNoNotHim: | "mysqladmin: unable to change password; error: 'Access denied for user ''@' localhost' to database 'mysql' |
| [22:35:00] | praet: | OhNoNotHim log back in as root "mysql -u root -p" |
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| [22:36:00] | OhNoNotHim: | oh, so i do this while logged in |
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| [22:36:00] | OhNoNotHim: | i was running the commands on the command line |
| [22:36:00] | OhNoNotHim: | so now i have mysql> and a cursor |
| [22:36:00] | praet: | type "use mysql" |
| [22:37:00] | OhNoNotHim: | Database changed |
| [22:37:00] | praet: | then type "select user,host from user;" |
| [22:37:00] | praet: | then type "select user,host,password from user;" <<if you want to check the password hash |
| [22:37:00] | praet: | do you see mythtv in there? |
| [22:38:00] | OhNoNotHim: | mythtv wasnt in the first one |
| [22:38:00] | praet: | type: grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"localhost" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [22:38:00] | praet: | then check again |
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| [22:39:00] | OhNoNotHim: | ok |
| [22:39:00] | evilbuny: | anyone else here use MCE remotes to control myth? |
| [22:39:00] | OhNoNotHim: | mythtv is there now |
| [22:39:00] | praet: | to set the password: Update user set password=PASSWORD('mythtv') where user="mythtv"; |
| [22:39:00] | praet: | password=PASSWORD('mythtv') << insert pass here |
| [22:40:00] | praet: | then: flush privileges; |
| [22:40:00] | praet: | exit and try logging in with mythtv |
| [22:40:00] | praet: | mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg |
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| [22:41:00] | OhNoNotHim: | "Unknown database 'mythconverg" |
| [22:41:00] | OhNoNotHim: | should i run mythbackend/mythsetup now? |
| [22:41:00] | praet: | doh |
| [22:41:00] | praet: | holon |
| [22:43:00] | OhNoNotHim: | k |
| [22:44:00] | praet: | # mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql |
| [22:44:00] | praet: | that should install it |
| [22:44:00] | OhNoNotHim: | run that on the commandline? |
| [22:44:00] | praet: | make sure you are root (su) |
| [22:45:00] | praet: | yeah in a terminal |
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| [22:45:00] | OhNoNotHim: | hmm |
| [22:45:00] | praet: | type su enter in password |
| [22:45:00] | OhNoNotHim: | praet: Access denied for user 'root' @ 'localhost' (using password: NO) |
| [22:46:00] | praet: | # mysql -u root -p < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql |
| [22:46:00] | OhNoNotHim: | do i need to do mysql -u root -p < /usr/share/blah |
| [22:46:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh beat me |
| [22:46:00] | praet: | ack |
| [22:46:00] | OhNoNotHim: | ok |
| [22:46:00] | OhNoNotHim: | that ran |
| [22:47:00] | praet: | type exit to get out of su |
| [22:47:00] | OhNoNotHim: | now shoud i try to log in as mythtv again? |
| [22:47:00] | praet: | and try again |
| [22:47:00] | praet: | you may have to grant privs again |
| [22:47:00] | praet: | i wont nuke my db just to test ;) |
| [22:48:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh |
| [22:48:00] | OhNoNotHim: | F***K |
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| [22:48:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh |
| [22:48:00] | OhNoNotHim: | instinct made my fingers type reboot |
| [22:48:00] | awstott: | grr.... If you have a PVR-250/350 you can skip the next step. Those with the PVR-150/500 setups, you have one more step. You need to also extract the audio firmware from the cd included with your card. Place that cd into the drive mount it to /media/cdrom (it should automatically). |
| [22:48:00] | awstott: | $ sudo cp `find /media/cdrom -name HcwMakoA.ROM` /lib/modules |
| [22:48:00] | awstott: | Now, you have your audio firmware. |
| [22:48:00] | OhNoNotHim: | instead of logout |
| [22:48:00] | awstott: | I can't get this part to work |
| [22:48:00] | awstott: | :( |
| [22:48:00] | praet: | lol OhNoNotHim |
| [22:49:00] | OhNoNotHim: | oh and mythtv didnt have a password |
| [22:49:00] | OhNoNotHim: | i set it to an arbitrary one |
| [22:49:00] | OhNoNotHim: | the user |
| [22:49:00] | OhNoNotHim: | is it supposed to have one |
| [22:49:00] | OhNoNotHim: | ie a default one that the program expects? |
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| [22:49:00] | praet: | well you just need to know what it is for mythtvsetup |
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| [22:49:00] | OhNoNotHim: | k |
| [22:50:00] | praet: | i mean to get into the db.. but the db can have a different pass than the user |
| [22:50:00] | evilbuny: | awstott: that file is on the net |
| [22:50:00] | thechris: | i can't find the link to subscribe on zap2it's website |
| [22:50:00] | evilbuny: | just google for it and download it |
| [22:50:00] | evilbuny: | or i can ftp it for you somewhere |
| [22:50:00] | thechris: | i find the signup for the forums and fro the newsletter though |
| [22:50:00] | praet: | labs.zap2it.com |
| [22:50:00] | awstott: | just this file HcwMakoA.ROM? |
| [22:50:00] | thechris: | thanks |
| [22:50:00] | evilbuny: | yes |
| [22:50:00] | OhNoNotHim: | praet: ok i typed mysql -u myttv -p mythconverg |
| [22:51:00] | OhNoNotHim: | and it said "Can't connect to local MySQL server though socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' |
| [22:51:00] | praet: | restart mysqld |
| [22:51:00] | OhNoNotHim: | ah yeah, its not on the default runlevel |
| [22:52:00] | praet: | get it working man :) |
| [22:52:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh its up now |
| [22:52:00] | OhNoNotHim: | ok logged in |
| [22:52:00] | OhNoNotHim: | as mythtv |
| [22:53:00] | OhNoNotHim: | to mythconverg db |
| [22:53:00] | praet: | great now you use that password everywhere :) |
| [22:53:00] | OhNoNotHim: | wait |
| [22:53:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh n/m |
| [22:53:00] | OhNoNotHim: | so now do i do mythtvbackend or mythtvsetup first? |
| [22:53:00] | praet: | setup |
| [22:54:00] | praet: | you have to setup the cards / channels etc |
| [22:54:00] | OhNoNotHim: | fun |
| [22:54:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh |
| [22:55:00] | BloodyIron: | hey guys |
| [22:55:00] | BloodyIron: | i need some general linux help here |
| [22:55:00] | BloodyIron: | I recompiled my kernel after realizing I wanted frame buffer support |
| [22:55:00] | BloodyIron: | but I dont know what I should do about loaded modules |
| [22:55:00] | BloodyIron: | as I had already setup what modules to load from the previous kernel |
| [22:56:00] | BloodyIron: | if i add the modules for the current kernel, does it duplicate them if they are hte same as the previous one? |
| [22:56:00] | OhNoNotHim: | hmm...."would you like to clear all capture card settings before starting configuration?" |
| [22:56:00] | jams: | BloodyIron- no |
| [22:57:00] | OhNoNotHim: | i havent set up any to my knowledge, but were any created automatically or anything? |
| [22:57:00] | OhNoNotHim: | (gentooO |
| [22:57:00] | OhNoNotHim: | (gentoo) |
| [22:57:00] | jams: | a module can only be loaded once |
| [22:57:00] | praet: | OhNoNotHim your database is empty, so doesnt matter.. after setting up a card you will not want to delete it |
| [22:57:00] | BloodyIron: | okay so I should just do what I did before? |
| [22:57:00] | BloodyIron: | is there a way to reset the module list and start over? |
| [22:58:00] | OhNoNotHim: | oh goodie |
| [22:58:00] | BloodyIron: | ? |
| [22:58:00] | OhNoNotHim: | "Switching to square mode (blue) |
| [22:58:00] | thechris: | hmm, so it seems my segfaulting issue from yesterday has fixed itself. seems changing the theme fixed the issue. |
| [22:58:00] | OhNoNotHim: | Segmentation fault |
| [22:58:00] | awstott: | HAH... I win.... |
| [22:58:00] | thechris: | OhNoNotHim: oh, i fixed that |
| [22:58:00] | awstott: | guess i coulda just done that from the gui |
| [22:58:00] | awstott: | but this was more fun |
| [22:59:00] | thechris: | OhNoNotHim: run mythfrontend first |
| [22:59:00] | awstott: | using winscp and all that fun stuff |
| [22:59:00] | awstott: | L) |
| [22:59:00] | thechris: | OhNoNotHim: just run it and exit |
| [22:59:00] | thechris: | OhNoNotHim: it will cahnge the theme, and then it seems mythtv-setup will run just fine |
| [23:00:00] | OhNoNotHim: | heh ok |
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| [23:00:00] | praet: | nice bugfix thechris :) |
| [23:00:00] | thechris: | yeah, and you guys were telling me i had all the odd problems |
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| [23:01:00] | Krazylegz: | thechris: We have new people now whohave all of the odd problems. |
| [23:01:00] | thechris: | oh, i swear everytime i look at linux something bizzar happens |
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| [23:01:00] | praet: | hehe |
| [23:01:00] | thechris: | yesterday all my NIC modules dissappeared... |
| [23:01:00] | Krazylegz: | thechris: SSH with your eyes shut? |
| [23:01:00] | thechris: | not even sure how thats possible |
| [23:02:00] | praet: | what distro |
| [23:02:00] | thechris: | gentoo |
| [23:02:00] | praet: | sounds like fun |
| [23:02:00] | BloodyIron: | hahaha sweet my voodooo 3 3500 just arrived :D |
| [23:02:00] | thechris: | only because i can fix the issues |
| [23:02:00] | praet: | BloodyIron are you serious? |
| [23:02:00] | thechris: | debian and others have issues, and then i can't try anything |
| [23:02:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah |
| [23:02:00] | praet: | ebay? |
| [23:02:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah |
| [23:03:00] | BloodyIron: | this thing's gangster |
| [23:03:00] | praet: | haha |
| [23:03:00] | praet: | 3dfx all the way |
| [23:03:00] | BloodyIron: | phillips tv tuner |
| [23:03:00] | BloodyIron: | you familiar with the 3500 TV? |
| [23:03:00] | praet: | agp? |
| [23:04:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah |
| [23:04:00] | praet: | http://www.3dfx.cz/voodoo3/3500_pair.jpg |
| [23:04:00] | BloodyIron: | mine has passive cooling on the PGU |
| [23:04:00] | BloodyIron: | er GPU |
| [23:04:00] | praet: | even better :) |
| [23:05:00] | BloodyIron: | im gonna use this as a front end for tv out on my big-erish tv |
| [23:05:00] | BloodyIron: | do you know if the tuner on it has hardware encoding? |
| [23:05:00] | BloodyIron: | wow the cable is so big >< |
| [23:06:00] | BloodyIron: | you could beat the shit out of someone with this cable |
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| [23:06:00] | BloodyIron: | i just need ram before I can test it :/ |
| [23:06:00] | BloodyIron: | sniff |
| [23:06:00] | praet: | dunno about hardware encoding |
| [23:07:00] | praet: | what cpu/mobo you putting it on? |
| [23:07:00] | BloodyIron: | p2 333 |
| [23:07:00] | BloodyIron: | i dunno the mobo |
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| [23:08:00] | BloodyIron: | i might cluster it with my PVR |
| [23:08:00] | BloodyIron: | or rather, can you use distcc to share rendering? |
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| [23:08:00] | BloodyIron: | sweet i just got a grays anatomy on ebay for $10 USD :D |
| [23:09:00] | BloodyIron: | wow I actually got this video card very swift considering that its the holiday :O |
| [23:09:00] | BloodyIron: | i bought it dec 12th |
| [23:09:00] | OhNoNotHim: | arg, i g2g do some errands....i'll finish this later :-( |
| [23:10:00] | BloodyIron: | praet? |
| [23:10:00] | thechris: | hmm. i wonder if chaning the theme worked for OhNoNotHim |
| [23:11:00] | awstott: | BAAH y for this not working |
| [23:11:00] | thechris: | if so, i might concider possibly thinking about proposing a bug report to the mythtv devs so they can tell me it isn't a bug |
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| [23:12:00] | thechris: | awstott: explain |
| [23:12:00] | awstott: | I'm following abarbaccia's guide to install on ubuntu |
| [23:12:00] | thechris: | awstott: +2 points if it involves mythtv-setup segfaulting |
| [23:12:00] | awstott: | I downloaded his sources.list file, and replaced mine with it, yet I Can't apt-get install mythtv |
| [23:13:00] | awstott: | maybe i'll just have to install it the old fashioned way :( |
| [23:13:00] | thechris: | i thought the ubuntut mythtv guide was broken |
| [23:13:00] | thechris: | just what i heard from someone else though |
| [23:13:00] | awstott: | it's been goin fine till I got to here |
| [23:14:00] | awstott: | imma try replacing my sources.list file again |
| [23:14:00] | awstott: | and see what happens |
| [23:14:00] | thechris: | does it give you errors |
| [23:14:00] | thechris: | and did you make sure to refresh the package list |
| [23:14:00] | praet: | distcc to share rendering? dunno but that would rock |
| [23:15:00] | praet: | BloodyIron ive got a p3 933 with a voodoo 3 waiting to be installed |
| [23:15:00] | BloodyIron: | sweet the card works so far :D |
| [23:16:00] | awstott: | there we go |
| [23:16:00] | praet: | awstott are you apt-get mythtv-suite or just mythtv? |
| [23:16:00] | BloodyIron: | I scalped some ram out of another machine |
| [23:16:00] | awstott: | dunno what happened |
| [23:16:00] | BloodyIron: | bleh rh :/ |
| [23:16:00] | awstott: | just mythtv |
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| [23:16:00] | praet: | well thats a fast way to get ram |
| [23:17:00] | awstott: | I bet only one of my tuners on my card owrks tho.... |
| [23:17:00] | awstott: | cuz i don't think they both intiialized properly in ivtv |
| [23:17:00] | sPiN: | so guys if i dont want to give up one of my dual monitors for use of mythtv, my best bet would be to pic up a really cheap PCI nvidia card that has tv out right? |
| [23:18:00] | awstott: | Setting up mythtv-backend (0.18.1–5) ... |
| [23:18:00] | awstott: | Starting MythTV server: mythbackendQSettings: error creating /root/.qt |
| [23:18:00] | awstott: | . |
| [23:18:00] | awstott: | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| [23:18:00] | awstott: | mythtv-database |
| [23:18:00] | awstott: | mythtv |
| [23:18:00] | praet: | yeah.. i just picked up an nvidia mx 4000 |
| [23:18:00] | awstott: | [ eiggirC ] Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| [23:18:00] | awstott: | ack |
| [23:18:00] | awstott: | damn script |
| [23:18:00] | sPiN: | praet: how much did that run you? |
| [23:19:00] | thechris: | sPiN: if you want to have a dedicated TV output. you can watch from the computer as well |
| [23:19:00] | BloodyIron: | i should put windows on here and try playing quak2 :D |
| [23:19:00] | praet: | or quake 1 :) |
| [23:19:00] | BloodyIron: | isnt the voodoo 3 an opengl accelerated card? |
| [23:19:00] | thechris: | sPiN: i for one do not even watch the tv i record from witin mythtv |
| [23:19:00] | sPiN: | thechris: yeah i plan to watch from the computer for till i get another vid card for dedicated tv output |
| [23:19:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah quake1 too, but quake2 is a better example of the performance |
| [23:20:00] | praet: | sPiN 33.89 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127121 |
| [23:20:00] | awstott: | grr |
| [23:20:00] | thechris: | awstott: have you seen my guide to the pvr500 on www.gentoo-wiki.org . it really is cross distro and relevent |
| [23:20:00] | BloodyIron: | bleh, get a voodoo 3 3500 tv :D |
| [23:20:00] | sPiN: | damn i love me some newegg :) |
| [23:20:00] | praet: | ive got another msi fx5200 for $44 thats perfect too |
| [23:20:00] | BloodyIron: | hey thecrhsi, have you gotten an 500MCE working in linux? |
| [23:21:00] | thechris: | yes, and i have a guide detailing it |
| [23:21:00] | BloodyIron: | nice |
| [23:21:00] | praet: | nice work thechris |
| [23:21:00] | BloodyIron: | on that wiki? |
| [23:21:00] | BloodyIron: | have you encoutered any problems with the 500? |
| [23:21:00] | thechris: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_PVR_500_Setup |
| [23:21:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: oh yeah |
| [23:21:00] | sPiN: | im little worried it will be a pita to setup another vid card in linux |
| [23:21:00] | BloodyIron: | thx :D |
| [23:21:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: it has a lot of issues, but all were fixable |
| [23:21:00] | BloodyIron: | what problems? |
| [23:22:00] | praet: | sPiN you will probably need a pci card if your agp is being used tho |
| [23:22:00] | thechris: | most annoying — it fights with some soundcards |
| [23:22:00] | thechris: | or PCI configs |
| [23:22:00] | sPiN: | i guess its just a matter of setting up the xorg.conf to include a new tvout section which refers to the pci slot but still sounds like it might be a pita |
| [23:22:00] | thechris: | i had to move cards around to get TV and Sound once... |
| [23:22:00] | BloodyIron: | thx thechris btw :D |
| [23:22:00] | BloodyIron: | can it work with ac'97 soundcards? |
| [23:22:00] | praet: | oh man ive got to image this drive asap |
| [23:22:00] | thechris: | the other common issue is that IVTV fails to bring up BOTH tuners, and brings up the second as "no tuner" |
| [23:23:00] | sPiN: | thechris: yeah right now i dont have any pci devices... im using agp nvidia 6600GT and thats the only card in my box so all my pci are free |
| [23:23:00] | BloodyIron: | is this correctable? |
| [23:23:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: yes, this was with an aftermarket sound card |
| [23:23:00] | BloodyIron: | im setting up a mythtv backend with a 500MCE and a msi-tv-@nywhere |
| [23:23:00] | BloodyIron: | the tv-@nywhere outputs sound into the soundcards line-in/ |
| [23:23:00] | thechris: | i was unaware the msi worked in linux |
| [23:24:00] | BloodyIron: | but the 500, as you already know, sends sounds accross the bus |
| [23:24:00] | BloodyIron: | can you forsee any problems? |
| [23:24:00] | BloodyIron: | im not sure thechris, i havnt gotten that far yet |
| [23:24:00] | sPiN: | i wont get the tv tuner until xmas but i was thinking i could ahead and pretty much install mythtv and have it ready to go |
| [23:24:00] | thechris: | the 500 will work. i am unsure if the MSI is even supported |
| [23:24:00] | sPiN: | i imagine you guys suggest compiling yourself even if their are rpms for your distro? |
| [23:24:00] | BloodyIron: | would you like me to show you the lspci output for the tv @nywhere? |
| [23:24:00] | thechris: | does it use the ATI (aka we hate linux) tv chip |
| [23:24:00] | sPiN: | i run suse 10 64bit on this box |
| [23:25:00] | BloodyIron: | spin it depends if the precompiles suit your needs or not |
| [23:25:00] | BloodyIron: | i compile to d |
| [23:25:00] | BloodyIron: | learn as well as gain advantages |
| [23:25:00] | thechris: | sPiN: i use gentoo, so its the same either way. |
| [23:25:00] | BloodyIron: | er i dont know |
| [23:25:00] | awstott: | hmm for some reason the mysql pw I set for root doesn't match |
| [23:25:00] | sPiN: | gentoo didnt work to well on my 64bit box... worked pretty well on my old laptop |
| [23:25:00] | BloodyIron: | its a conextant device |
| [23:25:00] | BloodyIron: | let me get u the lspci output |
| [23:25:00] | sPiN: | course this was like 2 years ago that i tried gentoo |
| [23:25:00] | awstott: | and even after removing it, the password is still set |
| [23:26:00] | BloodyIron: | 00:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05) |
| [23:26:00] | BloodyIron: | 00:09.1 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder [Audio Port] (rev 05) |
| [23:26:00] | awstott: | how can I clear that? |
| [23:26:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: i'm betting no. that might be the common "blackbird reference" design. |
| [23:26:00] | BloodyIron: | blackbird? |
| [23:26:00] | sPiN: | awstott: you need to clear /etc/passwd/ and /etc/shadow if you lost your root pass i believe |
| [23:26:00] | BloodyIron: | arent the conextant tuners very common? |
| [23:26:00] | awstott: | will that wipe all my passwords? |
| [23:26:00] | BloodyIron: | that seems rather odd that there is no support for them |
| [23:27:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: it is a common TV tuner design that is not supported in linux for some reason. |
| [23:27:00] | BloodyIron: | thats dumb :/ |
| [23:27:00] | BloodyIron: | surely there must be some drivers for it |
| [23:27:00] | sPiN: | just do it for root, you should see the user name in the file |
| [23:27:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: ivtv has info on it IIRC |
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| [23:27:00] | BloodyIron: | sweet |
| [23:27:00] | sPiN: | i was actually writing a tutorial on that very topic yesterday, need to finish that |
| [23:27:00] | BloodyIron: | well lets say there are drivers for the card |
| [23:27:00] | BloodyIron: | do you think that it could conflict with the 500? |
| [23:27:00] | BloodyIron: | considering its putting sound through the soundcard? |
| [23:28:00] | thechris: | it could, but i don't think it would |
| [23:28:00] | BloodyIron: | alright |
| [23:28:00] | BloodyIron: | thx :) |
| [23:28:00] | sPiN: | if you google around you should find specific directions for your distro |
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| [23:29:00] | thechris: | oh, and just in case it needs to be said. if you rmmod ivtv then re modprove ivtv, you will need to restart mythbackend... |
| [23:29:00] | BloodyIron: | what is rmmod? |
| [23:29:00] | thechris: | that one got me for about a week actually |
| [23:29:00] | thechris: | rmmod — remove module |
| [23:29:00] | BloodyIron: | makes sense |
| [23:29:00] | awilkins: | I'd stop mythbackend FIRST |
| [23:29:00] | BloodyIron: | doesnt that count as reinitializing the drivers? |
| [23:30:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: yes, and mythtv needs to be restarted. |
| [23:30:00] | thechris: | otherwise you cannot change channels... |
| [23:30:00] | BloodyIron: | what instances (other than updates) would you ever want to do this? |
| [23:30:00] | thechris: | testing things out to get it to work |
| [23:30:00] | BloodyIron: | ahh |
| [23:30:00] | BloodyIron: | mucking about |
| [23:30:00] | BloodyIron: | now you mentioned it was picky about slot placement |
| [23:30:00] | BloodyIron: | could this be due to irq conflicts? |
| [23:31:00] | thechris: | yes, that's how i found out |
| [23:31:00] | BloodyIron: | what mobo were you running it on? |
| [23:31:00] | BloodyIron: | my system will be on a GA-7VAX |
| [23:31:00] | BloodyIron: | last time I checked it should have more than sufficient IRQs to hand out |
| [23:31:00] | BloodyIron: | shouldnt it? |
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| [23:31:00] | thechris: | epox NF3 mobo |
| [23:31:00] | BloodyIron: | :O |
| [23:31:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: it should |
| [23:31:00] | awilkins: | I think modern ken=rnels are quite happy to share IRQs |
| [23:32:00] | thechris: | oh, and the best error with the pvr500 |
| [23:32:00] | BloodyIron: | ill be running on 2.6 |
| [23:32:00] | BloodyIron: | forget which subversion tho |
| [23:32:00] | thechris: | incompatible with the asus a8v mobo |
| [23:32:00] | BloodyIron: | what is? |
| [23:32:00] | thechris: | when i put the pvr into the a8v, it just wouldn't post |
| [23:32:00] | BloodyIron: | that... sucks |
| [23:32:00] | BloodyIron: | ive had wierd stuff like that happen before |
| [23:32:00] | thechris: | i swear that asus POS is good for nothing |
| [23:32:00] | BloodyIron: | like all p4 boards not posting when I put my dlink DWL-520+ in |
| [23:32:00] | BloodyIron: | :/ |
| [23:33:00] | BloodyIron: | ive only ever had AMD boards post with that WNIC |
| [23:33:00] | BloodyIron: | wiiieeeerdd ass shit |
| [23:33:00] | awilkins: | I have an ASUS. One of their el-cheapo economy boards ; onboard sound, onboard video, tv-out. |
| [23:33:00] | thechris: | i no longer buy from monarchcomputers because of my luck with stuff i buy there |
| [23:33:00] | sPiN: | i saw myth does transcoding for dvds, does it also transcode the mpeg2 ill capture to mp4? |
| [23:33:00] | BloodyIron: | thx for the help btw, why dont you get the dudes at mythtv to put links to your documentation? i know I would appreciate it |
| [23:33:00] | thechris: | awilkins: i have an asrock (low line asus) board which is fine. |
| [23:33:00] | BloodyIron: | oh? |
| [23:33:00] | awilkins: | Could've been made for MythTV, micro-ATX |
| [23:34:00] | BloodyIron: | ive not heard of bad press for monarch computer :O |
| [23:34:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: i've gotten 2 mobo+cpu combos (4 years apart) and both have been nothing but trouble |
| [23:34:00] | eiggirC: | occasionally when I start mythfrontend on my laptop, the X server gets killed. |
| [23:34:00] | thechris: | and worse, they tricked me into trying to fix the problem myslef |
| [23:34:00] | awilkins: | I get all my stuff from Scan. But largely because I used to work there, it's cheap, it's local and they know they can't et away with screwing me around. |
| [23:35:00] | thechris: | which pushed me over the alloted time for an exchange |
| [23:35:00] | thechris: | oh, and have you ever seen a CD rom drive explode? |
| [23:36:00] | BloodyIron: | what manufacturers? |
| [23:36:00] | BloodyIron: | no i havnt :O |
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| [23:37:00] | thechris: | its interesting. it managed to shoot a peice of cd shrapnel 18ft from the computer (which was on the floor). |
| [23:37:00] | BloodyIron: | tell me more thecrhis |
| [23:37:00] | BloodyIron: | .... whaat? |
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| [23:37:00] | awilkins: | The CD exploded |
| [23:37:00] | awilkins: | Must've had a hairline crack at the hub |
| [23:38:00] | BloodyIron: | wtf |
| [23:38:00] | awilkins: | THe speeds the drives go now, the forces are incredible ; a crack will expand and the disk will shatter. |
| [23:38:00] | BloodyIron: | that cd must have been going mad RPMs |
| [23:38:00] | BloodyIron: | cds arent supposed to explode until they hit like 30k RPMs |
| [23:38:00] | BloodyIron: | and 48x drives are like 5kRPMs |
| [23:38:00] | BloodyIron: | or so |
| [23:38:00] | sPiN: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814140057 |
| [23:38:00] | sPiN: | thats not too bad... the cheaptest nvidia based pci card i could find |
| [23:38:00] | BloodyIron: | i actually watched a mythbusters do a test on what it takes for cds to explode |
| [23:39:00] | BloodyIron: | they got theirs going up to 300x (cd drives go up to 48 or 52x) before detonating |
| [23:39:00] | sPiN: | BloodyIron: a personal favorite of mine :P |
| [23:39:00] | sPiN: | BloodyIron: did you see the interview they did for the /. crowd the other day? |
| [23:39:00] | awstott: | what'd they use to finally get it to shartter |
| [23:39:00] | awstott: | ? |
| [23:39:00] | BloodyIron: | mythbusters is okay, but I prefer a more professional scientific method for testing :O |
| [23:39:00] | sPiN: | they rigged a drill :P |
| [23:39:00] | awstott: | ahh |
| [23:39:00] | BloodyIron: | what? who did /. interview? |
| [23:39:00] | awstott: | I prolly have that ep filed away somewhere |
| [23:40:00] | BloodyIron: | some high ass rpm motor |
| [23:40:00] | awstott: | on my 1.46 TB of space |
| [23:40:00] | BloodyIron: | no standard cdrom drive |
| [23:40:00] | BloodyIron: | only? |
| [23:40:00] | BloodyIron: | bleh i'd still rather get a voodoo for tv out |
| [23:40:00] | sPiN: | http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05 . . . 4&tid=11 |
| [23:40:00] | BloodyIron: | this thngs gankster |
| [23:40:00] | thechris: | the drive itself was hot. i had to reistall the OS about 20 times that day |
| [23:40:00] | BloodyIron: | have you seen the breakout box for these things spin? |
| [23:41:00] | BloodyIron: | wtf? |
| [23:41:00] | sPiN: | BloodyIron: nope |
| [23:41:00] | BloodyIron: | thechris that sounds like it was the manufacturers fault |
| [23:41:00] | thechris: | in the end, for that computer i reinstalled the OS about 2 times per month. |
| [23:41:00] | BloodyIron: | its not like monarchcomputer makes cdrom drives |
| [23:41:00] | BloodyIron: | why? |
| [23:41:00] | BloodyIron: | ill get u some pics, hold on spin |
| [23:41:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: oh, about every part on the computer broke and was RMA'd |
| [23:41:00] | BloodyIron: | when was this and what parts did you have? |
| [23:42:00] | awstott: | oh thats not a good error to see..... |
| [23:42:00] | awstott: | failed to initialize HAL |
| [23:42:00] | BloodyIron: | http://www.guru3d.com/tech/v33500.htm |
| [23:42:00] | BloodyIron: | except my cables are purple |
| [23:42:00] | BloodyIron: | :D |
| [23:42:00] | awstott: | I musta really broke something this time |
| [23:42:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: yeah, but so far i'm 0/2 at monarch. and they made me mad when they wouldn't exchange my mobo |
| [23:42:00] | BloodyIron: | HAL? |
| [23:42:00] | thechris: | i feel cheated by them |
| [23:42:00] | BloodyIron: | what happened with your mobo? |
| [23:42:00] | sPiN: | id say my favorite mythbusters so far was either the jumping out of a plan using the raft as a parashoot(looked like a hell of a ride) but the best was when they did the bullet fired into water myth |
| [23:42:00] | thechris: | random hard locks |
| [23:43:00] | thechris: | bad IDE |
| [23:43:00] | thechris: | now it has a bad NIC |
| [23:43:00] | thechris: | doens't work with my tv tuner |
| [23:43:00] | sPiN: | some how convinced someone to let them fire a 50cal rifle into their swimming pool |
| [23:43:00] | BloodyIron: | what manufacturer? |
| [23:43:00] | thechris: | ASUS |
| [23:43:00] | BloodyIron: | well them not replacing it is bad news, but that kinda jazz isnt exactly monarchs fault |
| [23:43:00] | thechris: | my old mobo from the first monarch system lasted 2 years befor being RMA's |
| [23:43:00] | BloodyIron: | but yeah they shoulda replaced it |
| [23:43:00] | BloodyIron: | wtfs up with that? |
| [23:43:00] | BloodyIron: | what did they say? |
| [23:44:00] | BloodyIron: | lol what happened spin? |
| [23:44:00] | thechris: | they said it was too late |
| [23:44:00] | BloodyIron: | what were they testing? |
| [23:44:00] | thechris: | and this was after they got me to try fixing it myself |
| [23:44:00] | sPiN: | BloodyIron: you know how in the movies ppl avoid gun fire by jumping into water |
| [23:44:00] | BloodyIron: | you should have talked to their manager |
| [23:44:00] | BloodyIron: | that shits rotten :/ |
| [23:44:00] | sPiN: | well surprisingly if you fire a pistol into water you are more likely to kill them than with a long rifle |
| [23:44:00] | BloodyIron: | er |
| [23:44:00] | BloodyIron: | hmm |
| [23:44:00] | BloodyIron: | why is that? |
| [23:45:00] | sPiN: | the rifle fires at such high speed there is a interaction with the water that destroys the bullet! |
| [23:45:00] | thechris: | right now i've accepted the $130 loss as a learning experience |
| [23:45:00] | BloodyIron: | sorta like in saving private ryan? |
| [23:45:00] | BloodyIron: | wow |
| [23:45:00] | BloodyIron: | that much friction occurs? |
| [23:45:00] | BloodyIron: | damn |
| [23:45:00] | BloodyIron: | ill keep that in mind thechris |
| [23:45:00] | sPiN: | reduces the bullet into tiny little pieces that just float to the bottom justa couple feet into the water |
| [23:45:00] | sPiN: | a 9 bullet went like 8 feet deep or something |
| [23:45:00] | awstott: | yikes I really broke something... got that error again |
| [23:46:00] | BloodyIron: | I was inches away from purchasing a full system from them (after thesale of my laptop) but considering its a big hastle to RMA stuff to the states (im in canada) then i don tthink ill go with it |
| [23:46:00] | BloodyIron: | ill check my options here first |
| [23:46:00] | sPiN: | the 203 round and the 50cal just turned into nothing when they hit water |
| [23:46:00] | BloodyIron: | lol |
| [23:46:00] | BloodyIron: | and the hand gun bullets go slow enough to not disentegrate? |
| [23:46:00] | awstott: | yi[ |
| [23:46:00] | BloodyIron: | that must be some mad fluid friction :O |
| [23:46:00] | awstott: | yup |
| [23:46:00] | awstott: | I think I have that ep if you want it BloodyIron |
| [23:47:00] | BloodyIron: | nothx, ill get it in good time ;) |
| [23:47:00] | BloodyIron: | i got 2 tvs in arms reach, plus a PVR with 3 tuners coming in |
| [23:47:00] | BloodyIron: | spin, did u check out that voodoo 3 link i sent u? |
| [23:47:00] | awstott: | 336mb file..... |
| [23:47:00] | BloodyIron: | the one for the breakout box? |
| [23:47:00] | awstott: | heh |
| [23:47:00] | thechris: | i'm liking this evms so far |
| [23:47:00] | BloodyIron: | http://www.guru3d.com/tech/v33500.htm |
| [23:47:00] | BloodyIron: | evms? |
| [23:47:00] | sPiN: | yeah im looking at it |
| [23:48:00] | thechris: | enterprise volume management system |
| [23:48:00] | sPiN: | i dont care for voodoo stuff at all though |
| [23:48:00] | BloodyIron: | why not? |
| [23:48:00] | thechris: | its a bunch of lvm2 and md tools in a nice ncurses environment |
| [23:48:00] | BloodyIron: | the advantage of that card is the long cable for the rca/svideo in/out |
| [23:48:00] | sPiN: | thats a fancy dongle |
| [23:48:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah it is |
| [23:48:00] | BloodyIron: | hey thechris |
| [23:48:00] | thechris: | ? |
| [23:48:00] | BloodyIron: | how much processing power you figure converting nuv to divx would take, percentage wise, of an AMD Athlon 2500+ XP ? |
| [23:49:00] | sPiN: | ive got my tv right next to the computer and already have a svideo cable ran |
| [23:49:00] | BloodyIron: | whatever spin, to each their own :P |
| [23:49:00] | BloodyIron: | i would rather go voodoo 3 3500 over a gf2 mx440 :/ |
| [23:49:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: my best advice is to look at computer reviews. they show some performance specs on this kinda thing |
| [23:49:00] | BloodyIron: | also different AGP levels |
| [23:50:00] | BloodyIron: | but arent they done in windows? |
| [23:50:00] | sPiN: | i need pci for this |
| [23:50:00] | BloodyIron: | oh |
| [23:50:00] | BloodyIron: | didnt see the card was PCI :O |
| [23:50:00] | sPiN: | ive already got a 6600GT for agp |
| [23:50:00] | BloodyIron: | that seems a bit excessive |
| [23:50:00] | sPiN: | just got it last week, im loving it |
| [23:50:00] | BloodyIron: | for tv out :D |
| [23:50:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: well, yes. i don't really have an issue with divx — i encode to mpeg, then reencode the file |
| [23:50:00] | thechris: | then watch it a day later |
| [23:50:00] | BloodyIron: | well I want to automate the service |
| [23:51:00] | BloodyIron: | and not compromise my recording quality |
| [23:51:00] | BloodyIron: | probably setting priorities is in order, hey? |
| [23:51:00] | sPiN: | BloodyIron: it is for grand theft auto san andreas killing sprees, and running my dual 19" crts at 16x12 |
| [23:51:00] | BloodyIron: | like thread priorities? |
| [23:51:00] | BloodyIron: | lol |
| [23:51:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: you can. it just might take longer then realtime to re-encode it from the MPEG version |
| [23:51:00] | BloodyIron: | if i were you, i would get a 7800gtx 256 |
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| [23:51:00] | sPiN: | so im getting the g2 mx to be just a dedicated tv out card |
| [23:51:00] | BloodyIron: | if u have that much desktop space |
| [23:51:00] | BloodyIron: | :O |
| [23:51:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah |
| [23:51:00] | sPiN: | BloodyIron: it costs 100 bucks more and im not sure if it comes in agp even |
| [23:52:00] | BloodyIron: | well I want to convert it to divx for archiving, i dont like 4.7gigs for an hour >< |
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| [23:52:00] | BloodyIron: | which? |
| [23:52:00] | sPiN: | 7800gtx |
| [23:52:00] | BloodyIron: | ... |
| [23:52:00] | BloodyIron: | er |
| [23:52:00] | BloodyIron: | yeah |
| [23:52:00] | BloodyIron: | probably doesnt come in agp |
| [23:52:00] | BloodyIron: | didnt know u werent on pcie :D |
| [23:52:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: ok. mythtv already has "transcoding" options to convert to mpeg4 |
| [23:52:00] | BloodyIron: | or was it x? |
| [23:52:00] | BloodyIron: | i keep getting those mixed up |
| [23:52:00] | BloodyIron: | rly? |
| [23:52:00] | BloodyIron: | i was told it converts to nuv |
| [23:52:00] | BloodyIron: | or something |
| [23:52:00] | sPiN: | thechris: kick ass, that answers my earlier question |
| [23:53:00] | thechris: | the files are in the nuv wrapper |
| [23:53:00] | sPiN: | mp4 is awesome as far as im concerned |
| [23:53:00] | BloodyIron: | pardon? |
| [23:53:00] | BloodyIron: | divx4L |
| [23:53:00] | BloodyIron: | wow, i look around my desk, and damn, im a nerd |
| [23:53:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: the nuv format was extended to hold mpeg2 and mpeg4, as well as the original MJPEG |
| [23:53:00] | BloodyIron: | i see |
| [23:53:00] | thechris: | it makes it hard to play files in other things though |
| [23:53:00] | BloodyIron: | is it GNU? |
| [23:54:00] | thechris: | unsure |
| [23:54:00] | thechris: | it works in VLC |
| [23:54:00] | BloodyIron: | err not too familiar with VLC :/ |
| [23:54:00] | thechris: | at least in windows VLC |
| [23:54:00] | BloodyIron: | video lan client? |
| [23:54:00] | BloodyIron: | :O |
| [23:54:00] | thechris: | VLC is just a media player |
| [23:54:00] | thechris: | and it happens to play nuv files. |
| [23:54:00] | BloodyIron: | i would rather convert to divx |
| [23:54:00] | BloodyIron: | these recordings arent just for me ;) |
| [23:54:00] | thechris: | oh, well then you'd need to make a script |
| [23:54:00] | BloodyIron: | divx avi |
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| [23:54:00] | BloodyIron: | nuts :O |
| [23:55:00] | BloodyIron: | can i cron it or something? |
| [23:55:00] | thechris: | nuvexport and then a reencode |
| [23:55:00] | thechris: | BloodyIron: sure |
| [23:55:00] | BloodyIron: | can crons autosense when a file is available/ready to convert or something? |
| [23:55:00] | thechris: | no, for that you'd want to run a daemon |
| [23:55:00] | BloodyIron: | how long does a nuvexport take for a 30 minute file? is it just straight up conversion or is there compression changes too? |
| [23:55:00] | thechris: | but cron is likely all you need |
| [23:56:00] | thechris: | i've never used nuvexport |
| [23:56:00] | BloodyIron: | k |
| [23:56:00] | BloodyIron: | isnt cron a daemon? |
| [23:56:00] | thechris: | yes — it runs in the background at all times |
| [23:56:00] | thechris: | in anycase, you really don't need the files to be instantly reencoded, just reencoded sometime |
| [23:56:00] | BloodyIron: | so could I, in theory, setup my cron of choice (i think i picked vixie) to sense when a file is ready for conversion, and auto convert it? |
| [23:57:00] | thechris: | so you could have the cronjob run hourly or daily |
| [23:57:00] | BloodyIron: | well couldnt I set the re-encoding threads to run on low priority so as not to interfere? |
| [23:57:00] | thechris: | sure, but with cron, you have to check in given intervals |
| [23:57:00] | BloodyIron: | pardon? |
| [23:58:00] | thechris: | for instance, i have a cronjob to make a .pls playlist for VLC every hour |
| [23:58:00] | thechris: | that way VLC sees the program info instead of the filename |
| [23:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | thechris what is the format of the playlist? Just plaintext paths/names ? |
| [23:58:00] | thechris: | GreyFoxx: it is plaintext, similar to ini |
| [23:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | care to show me an example ? |
| [23:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was just looking at doing this today |
| [23:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | but didn't have time to go looking for the format |
| [23:59:00] | thechris: | hold on one sec |
| [23:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | thx |
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