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    datetime:  2010-12-02 17:51:59 (UTC)
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    datetime:  2010-12-02 17:51:59 (UTC)
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Tuesday, December 20th, 2005, 00:01 UTC
[00:01:00] Beirdo: I'm sure there are good solutions out there though
[00:01:00] Beirdo: :)
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[00:02:00] davro: Thank for all you help, need some sleep head aching, be back later tommorrow =>
[00:02:00] Beirdo: good luck, davro. :)
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[00:05:00] ChanServ sets mode +o Beirdo
[00:05:00] Beirdo sets mode +is
[00:05:00] ChanServ sets mode -s
[00:06:00] Beirdo: dammit
[00:06:00] Beirdo sets mode -i
[00:06:00] ** Beirdo slaps himself **
[00:06:00] Beirdo: let's try this again
[00:10:00] Beirdo: oh
[00:10:00] Beirdo: hehe, he's already banned, that would be my problem
[00:10:00] ** Beirdo sighs **
[00:10:00] Beirdo sets mode -o Beirdo
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[00:12:00] Beirdo: --- #mythtv-users Banlist: Sat Dec 17 07:06:52 *fishhead*!*@* sagan.freenode.net
[00:12:00] Beirdo: nice of him to register for us :)
[00:13:00] rtsai: trac is down, can someone reboot or whatever needs to be done?
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[00:18:00] Chutt: rtsai, it fixes itself
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[00:29:00] Cromz: hmm so.. who was fishhead? lol nvm.. hey got that 16:9 lcd in today.. gotta see if there are any tweaks to make it work better.. ;) it's only a 20.1" but better then my 17" normal lcd ;)
[00:30:00] praet: nice
[00:30:00] ** praet whimpers.. . "only" a 20.1 lcd **
[00:31:00] praet: yay i just got lirc working
[00:32:00] Beirdo: fishhead's a nutcase who got banned almost a year ago, and occasionally goes off his meds long enough to come be a pain again
[00:32:00] Cromz: lirc is a tricky little monster.. at least was for me. the whole /etc/lircd.conf file and ~/.mythtv/lircrc files ;)
[00:32:00] Cromz: Beirdo, oh.. hmm guess I need to make myth remind me to take mine..
[00:33:00] Beirdo: heh
[00:33:00] Beirdo: xris: you in?
[00:34:00] Cromz: yeah.. that'll be easy.. hmm crontab an osd message 'Cromz take meds now!' ;)
[00:35:00] praet: lol
[00:36:00] praet: yeah now i need to get ir blasting to work
[00:37:00] Cromz: praet: ooof.. naw.. kidding. if you got lirc to work then that's not that hard :)
[00:38:00] fatmatt: is anyone using the harmony 880 remote? logitech have a mythtv selection in the online config, but I don't know where to start with it
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[00:52:00] poop: It's chilly out there.
[00:52:00] poop: .nick poopsicle
[00:52:00] praet: lo poop
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[01:19:00] jd86: How do you create a cutlist?
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[01:33:00] sugarbear: Hi.
[01:35:00] jd86: hi sugarbear
[01:35:00] sugarbear: I just showed my father how to send his video to his Tv screen. Unfortunately, the image is great, except for these wavy lines that rise from the bottom of the screen to the top. Has anyone else experienced this? He has a Hauppauge 350, and he's using its tv-out.
[01:35:00] sugarbear: Hey, jd86.
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[02:04:00] Sudanmas: Anyone here familiar with the inner workings of the NuvExport utility?
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[02:06:00] boonie: evening all
[02:06:00] boonie: need some help
[02:06:00] boonie: I have mythtv installed and running but I have a problem with the color
[02:06:00] boonie: the hue is WAY off, blue people
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[02:07:00] boonie: I can fix it somewhat with the hue slider but it still leaves the colors off
[02:07:00] boonie: I also have kdetv installed and the colors look great
[02:07:00] boonie: what is kdetv reading that myth isn't?
[02:08:00] boonie: or why is kdetv displaying fine when myth isn't?
[02:08:00] boonie: I am running suse 9.3 with an ati tv wonder pro
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[02:23:00] bobc: boonie: what hue slider are you using? mythtv's or nvidia's or other?
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[02:32:00] boonie: bobc, the slider in mythtv, hit the m key and a menu pops up with options like color and such
[02:33:00] boonie: I was able to get that menu up before but since I reinstalled I forgot how I added it to the menu
[02:33:00] boonie: it's not default
[02:33:00] simcop2387: anyone know any ways i can improve performance in wine? i'm trying to get You Don't Know Jack on my mythtv box but graphical performance is low :(
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[02:43:00] poop: Anyone capture audio on a via sound card?
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[02:47:00] heinola: hello all
[02:47:00] heinola: i had a question on capture cards
[02:47:00] juski: anyone in the US care enough about their rights to use TV content?  ;-)
[02:47:00] simcop2387: poop: what tuner card?
[02:48:00] heinola: if i am going to just get broadcast tv local channels
[02:48:00] heinola: whats whould be the basic card i would need
[02:48:00] heinola: ?
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[02:48:00] heinola: i have no cable or direct tv at the moment
[02:48:00] simcop2387: juski: people here do just not enough, we need a cure for apathy
[02:49:00] simcop2387: heinola: any card i'd believe
[02:49:00] juski: simcop2387: it's the same here
[02:49:00] juski: anyway.. 'tis time for quit
[02:49:00] juski: night all
[02:49:00] heinola: gn
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[02:50:00] heinola: any capture card
[02:51:00] poop: simcopy: doesn't matter, I'm just trying to capture analog audio from my STB atm
[02:52:00] poop: s/copy/mv/
[02:52:00] simcop2387: STB?
[02:52:00] poop: set top box (cable)
[02:52:00] simcop2387: ah
[02:52:00] poop: I've given up on spdif in
[02:52:00] simcop2387: well make sure the mixer stuff is set right
[02:53:00] simcop2387: i've no experiance with spdif
[02:53:00] poop: simcop: I'm not sure a mixer setting would explain why I just get the left channel when recording.
[02:53:00] poop: simcop: doesn't matter, I gave up on that :)
[02:53:00] simcop2387: poop: sounds like either your cable is bad or its mono audio
[02:54:00] poop: simcop: no, I can unmute line-in and hear both channels
[02:54:00] simcop2387: hmm
[02:55:00] simcop2387: what sound card?
[02:55:00] simcop2387: and what are you using to record?
[02:55:00] poop: VIA 8237 with CMI9761
[02:55:00] poop: arecord
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[02:57:00] simcop2387: poop: my only guess would be a driver issue unless the mixer is balanced wrong (if its a stereo mixer)
[02:57:00] _EdmGuy_: okay I have everything else down, but I can't get any sound from the live tv, I'm hooked up via coax, anything special I have to do, I tested that sound works with aplay (ALSA)
[02:58:00] simcop2387: _EdmGuy_: what tv card?
[02:58:00] _EdmGuy_: Hauppauge WinTV 150
[02:58:00] TravisB: Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone knows of a way to import Bell ExpressVu PPV listings into the database?
[02:58:00] simcop2387: _EdmGuy_: what version ivtv?
[02:59:00] poop: hmm, I _could_ just run coax to the tuner and capture via the digital device on the bt87x
[02:59:00] simcop2387: TravisB: not a clue, but it should be possible somehow
[02:59:00] ** poop pukes **
[02:59:00] _EdmGuy_: simcop2387, not too sure, ivtvctl --info gives 0.4.0
[02:59:00] simcop2387: poop: yea i had alot of strange issues with stereo audio and my bt card
[03:00:00] simcop2387: _EdmGuy_: power off the computer for 30 seconds power it back up
[03:00:00] poop: simcop: I don't have any issues with stereo audio on my bt card
[03:00:00] _EdmGuy_: kk
[03:00:00] DaddyMak: Is anyone here successfully controlling a Motorola DCT2224 via serial?
[03:00:00] _EdmGuy_: will be back
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[03:00:00] simcop2387: poop: weird
[03:00:00] netrix: how do i clear a stuck tuner? ie. tuner 2 is watching live tv in sys. status but no frontends are ...
[03:00:00] TravisB: Yes, I'm thining that the listings will need to be "scraped" and then imported, just not sure where to start.
[03:00:00] simcop2387: DaddyMak: not a clue i've been looking for a way to control my parents Direct TV receiver
[03:01:00] poop: simcop: And the analog input is _mono_ with insanely high sample rates (I guess someone thought that was useful)
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[03:01:00] DaddyMak: Yeah, it's looking more and more like I'm gonna have to go IR blaster
[03:01:00] ChanServ sets mode +v xris
[03:01:00] simcop2387: TravisB: look at mythfilldatabase, its got alot of crazy things i don't know about
[03:01:00] simcop2387: DaddyMak: thats where i figure i'll have to gio
[03:01:00] simcop2387: go*
[03:02:00] DaddyMak: Supposedly my DCT is controllable, but I can't get it to work, I've got the serial port enabled, I'm running a newer version of f/w than required
[03:02:00] poop: At least coax should be cleaner than this weak-ass rca-headphone cable.
[03:02:00] simcop2387: heh
[03:02:00] ** poop configures alsa **
[03:03:00] simcop2387: DaddyMak: i've heard about doing something like that never done it though
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[03:06:00] _EdmGuy_: simcop2387, nothing, heard some clicks etc, as it booted, but that's it so far
[03:07:00] simcop2387: hrm
[03:07:00] _EdmGuy_: doubled checked with aplay right now, still works
[03:07:00] simcop2387: paste the output of dmesg into a pastebin
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[03:12:00] _EdmGuy_: simcop2387, http://pastebin.ca/34293
[03:12:00] hn: simcop2387: ah I see what I did wrong, when the mythtv emerge told me to rebuild qt with the mysql USE flag, I simply re-emerged qt but it actually emerged qt4 and left qt3 alone, so I guess I should just get rid of qt4 and re-emerge qt3 specifically with the mysql USE flag
[03:13:00] simcop2387: ok lets see what we've got here
[03:13:00] _EdmGuy_: i2c_adapter i2c-0: sendbytes: error – bailout. ... #
[03:13:00] _EdmGuy_: cx25840 0–0044: 333MHz i2c firmware load failed cx25840 0–0044: firmware /lib/modules/HcwMakoA.ROM load failed
[03:14:00] simcop2387: it looks like the audio firmware is failing to load
[03:14:00] simcop2387: that could be it
[03:14:00] simcop2387: i'm not sure why yet
[03:14:00] simcop2387: hn: that'd do it
[03:14:00] simcop2387: _EdmGuy_: is that file there?
[03:15:00] _EdmGuy_: /lib/modules/HcwMakoA.ROM
[03:15:00] _EdmGuy_: don't know why the unicode :)
[03:15:00] simcop2387: hrm
[03:15:00] simcop2387: unicode?
[03:16:00] _EdmGuy_: looks like an A here but it shows up A when I paste it
[03:16:00] _EdmGuy_: nm, it's just my xchat font
[03:16:00] simcop2387: try fixing that if its really like that
[03:16:00] _EdmGuy_: nope, it looks okay here
[03:16:00] simcop2387: i'm not sure why its failing to load #ivtv or one of the mailing lists will be able to help more than me but that could be the problem
[03:17:00] _EdmGuy_: #ivtv on another network?
[03:18:00] _EdmGuy_: options cx25840 fastfw=0
[03:18:00] _EdmGuy_: from the forum, going to try that
[03:18:00] simcop2387: hmm
[03:18:00] simcop2387: i thought there was one here
[03:18:00] _EdmGuy_: it's 2 people :)
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[03:20:00] simcop2387: ah
[03:21:00] _EdmGuy_: no video now...rebooting be back to report
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[03:23:00] poop: fuck, I'd have to tune to channel 3 to use the digital audio on my bttv, which means I couldn't use composite
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[03:25:00] Gumby: hrm, I am getting errors about not being able to open recordedmarkup.MYI mythbackend logfile. I had a look in mysql and it says "Didn't find any fields in table 'recordedmarkup' Database changed" when I do use mythconverg;
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[03:27:00] _EdmGuy__: module still didn't load, working on the problem now :)
[03:27:00] _EdmGuy__: got a laptop to do irc too
[03:28:00] Gumby: strange, that file doesnt exist
[03:29:00] Gumby: looks like my db is hosed
[03:30:00] poop: Gumby: Use the db recovery tools from toysql.
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[03:31:00] Gumby: toysql?
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[03:33:00] Gumby: can anyone tell my what recordedmarkup table has in it?
[03:33:00] EnterUserName: -/join #lirc
[03:33:00] Gumby: or do a mysqldump of it and send me the file.
[03:33:00] EnterUserName: who do i talk to about cvs bugs
[03:33:00] EnterUserName: sorry
[03:33:00] EnterUserName: wrong channel :)
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[03:34:00] EnterUserName: hey all
[03:35:00] Gumby: lo
[03:35:00] EnterUserName: lirc has bugs :(
[03:35:00] EnterUserName: stupid thing crashes my remote control and then doesnt work until i boot into windows and back into linux :(
[03:36:00] EnterUserName: but mythtv works great :)
[03:36:00] simcop2387: Gumby: IIRC it has all the stuff for commercial detection, you should be able to rebuild it/empty it without significant problems, mythcommflag has a --rebuild IIRC
[03:36:00] simcop2387: EnterUserName: what remote?
[03:36:00] EnterUserName: PVR-150
[03:37:00] EnterUserName: Haugpage
[03:37:00] EnterUserName: lirc_i2c
[03:37:00] EnterUserName: I've tried the 0.7.2
[03:37:00] EnterUserName: a snapshot
[03:37:00] EnterUserName: and a cvs version
[03:37:00] EnterUserName: they all crash :(
[03:37:00] simcop2387: use ir-kdb-i2c from the kernel, works much better for me
[03:37:00] simcop2387: kbd*
[03:37:00] EnterUserName: hmm
[03:37:00] Gumby: simcop2387: its strange that I am just all of a sudden missing the file though
[03:37:00] EnterUserName: ok i'll give it a try
[03:37:00] simcop2387: it comes from the bttv driver in media/video
[03:37:00] simcop2387: in the kernel drivers
[03:37:00] simcop2387: Gumby: sounds like mysql messed up
[03:38:00] EnterUserName: simcop: i dont think i have that
[03:38:00] EnterUserName: which kernel is that in?
[03:38:00] simcop2387: EnterUserName: vanilla
[03:38:00] EnterUserName: hmm
[03:38:00] Gumby: simcop2387: looks like there are a few other errors. just running myisamchk *.MYI on the mythconverg tables now
[03:38:00] EnterUserName: Do you know which SubMenu simcop?
[03:38:00] simcop2387: i'm getting it now
[03:39:00] simcop2387: Gumby: hmm
[03:39:00] simcop2387: Device Drivers->
[03:39:00] simcop2387: Multimedia Devices->Video 4 Linux
[03:39:00] simcop2387: and then compile bt848 as a module
[03:40:00] simcop2387: it comes with the ir-kbd-i2c module
[03:40:00] EnterUserName: Do i need the SAA chip?
[03:40:00] Gumby: actually, its not missing, its just corrupted
[03:40:00] simcop2387: no
[03:40:00] EnterUserName: hmm
[03:40:00] EnterUserName: well it says its compiled..
[03:40:00] simcop2387: compiled in?
[03:40:00] EnterUserName: nope
[03:40:00] EnterUserName: as a module
[03:41:00] simcop2387: then you should be able to do modprobe ir-kbd-i2c and then it'll be in one of the /dev/input/events* i'll grab a page that helped me
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[03:42:00] Gumby: there we go. all seems good now
[03:42:00] EnterUserName: simcop: which vanila kernel did you use?
[03:43:00] EnterUserName: ahh thereit is
[03:44:00] ** EnterUserName thanx simcop for all his help. Let me know the page that i can look up **
[03:44:00] simcop2387: http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=Remotes should help
[03:46:00] EnterUserName: that should work allr ight :)_
[03:46:00] EnterUserName: thanx alot simcop
[03:46:00] simcop2387: i had to make a small patch to my kernel to make it use the correct keymap (it didn't want to accept one from outside) change ir_codes_rc5 something to another one ir_codes_hauppauge_new on a single line in the source to that module
[03:47:00] EnterUserName: hmm?
[03:47:00] simcop2387: i'll look it up
[03:48:00] EnterUserName: ok ill see it brb
[03:48:00] EnterUserName: thank you simcop for all your help..
[03:48:00] simcop2387: /usr/src/linux/drivers/media/video/ir-kbd-i2c.c
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[03:49:00] simcop2387: i set this up just 2 days ago :)
[03:49:00] simcop2387: so i'm happy to share
[03:51:00] simcop2387: it should be inside a switch statement in the cases 0x18 and 0x1a: it'll say name = "Hauppauge" and ir_codes = ir_codes_rc5... change the ir_codes = line to read; ir_codes = ir_codes_hauppauge_new; this only applies if you've got the new grey remotes, and only do it if you have problems with your remotes
[03:53:00] EnterUserName: ok
[03:53:00] EnterUserName: lol i do have the new grey remotes :)
[03:53:00] EnterUserName: but ill tryit first
[03:54:00] boonie: anyone know how to get the color, brightness, and hue tabs up when you hit the "M" when watching live tv?
[03:55:00] simcop2387: boonie: they'll show up if your card supports normal xv picture controls IIRC
[03:55:00] boonie: I used to have them untill I reinstalled suse
[03:55:00] _EdmGuy__: so I add cx25840 fastfw=0 to /etc/modprobe.conf and it doesn't use that option line
[03:55:00] boonie: someone told me how to enable them but I forgot
[03:55:00] simcop2387: graphics drivers?
[03:55:00] heinola: any got a Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP Exper working good for mythtv ?
[03:55:00] boonie: :-\
[03:56:00] simcop2387: boonie: its in the playback setup to use them IIRC
[03:56:00] boonie: simcop2387, I have an ati tv wonder pro
[03:56:00] boonie: simcop2387, is that in mythtv-setup or in the setup when running the front end?
[03:57:00] simcop2387: setup in frontend
[03:58:00] EnterUserName: hey simcop
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[03:58:00] EnterUserName: if it doesnt appear in the events
[03:59:00] EnterUserName: i have to do the change?
[03:59:00] simcop2387: no the change fixes some problems i had with certain buttons not working
[03:59:00] EnterUserName: oh..
[03:59:00] EnterUserName: my remote is not being registered :S
[03:59:00] simcop2387: EnterUserName: the 150 could need different things all together, i've got a 250
[04:00:00] simcop2387: i just hoped they'd be similar to setup
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[04:00:00] EnterUserName: unless its registered asa mousE?
[04:00:00] EnterUserName: :)
[04:01:00] simcop2387: i'd stick with lirc then for now until you can figure out how to fix it
[04:01:00] simcop2387: heh that'd be neat
[04:01:00] EnterUserName: well tha tsucks
[04:01:00] EnterUserName: :)
[04:01:00] EnterUserName: lirc crashes on me: ( I sent a note to the mailing list
[04:01:00] EnterUserName: maybe the developers can figure out why
[04:01:00] EnterUserName: hmm
[04:04:00] EnterUserName: Simcop: Where did you say this file was located
[04:05:00] EnterUserName: nevermind i found it :)
[04:06:00] boonie: simcop2387, that was it, Thanks!
[04:06:00] _EdmGuy__: so close...yet...dman no sound :)
[04:07:00] EnterUserName: Simcop: Could you give me those instructions again..
[04:07:00] EnterUserName: for modifying the source
[04:07:00] simcop2387: it should be inside a switch statement in the cases 0x18 and 0x1a: it'll say name = "Hauppauge" and ir_codes = ir_codes_rc5... change the ir_codes = line to read; ir_codes = ir_codes_hauppauge_new; this only applies if you've got the new grey remotes, and only do it if you have problems with your remotes
[04:07:00] simcop2387: its around line 350 for me
[04:08:00] EnterUserName: yup thanx
[04:08:00] _EdmGuy__: fixed th loading error, crosses fingers
[04:09:00] simcop2387: :)
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[04:10:00] _EdmGuy__: of course now the remote stops working
[04:10:00] simcop2387: haha
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[04:10:00] _EdmGuy__: wooo soound
[04:11:00] EnterUserName: simcop is it only the ir_codes line that i change?
[04:11:00] simcop2387: cool
[04:11:00] simcop2387: yep
[04:11:00] EnterUserName: its giving me an error
[04:11:00] EnterUserName: undeclared function
[04:11:00] simcop2387: what'd you make it read?
[04:11:00] EnterUserName: i changed the kernel module to say this
[04:11:00] EnterUserName: ir_codes = ir_codes_hauppage_new;
[04:12:00] EnterUserName: did i read it wrong?
[04:12:00] EnterUserName: thats the only line i changed
[04:12:00] simcop2387: you misspelled hauppauge
[04:12:00] EnterUserName: oh lol
[04:12:00] EnterUserName: yup stupid syntax error :)
[04:13:00] simcop2387: it probably won't fix detection though so i dunno if it'll fix your problem
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[04:15:00] EnterUserName: well dont that suck
[04:15:00] EnterUserName: :)
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[04:19:00] hn: woohoo, mythtv installed
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[04:19:00] simcop2387: hn awsome
[04:19:00] simcop2387: well my night has been going well i've helped 4 people now with mythtv and related things
[04:20:00] simcop2387: too bad CVS has been giving me a load of bulls*** and i won't be able to work during my break now
[04:20:00] simcop2387: costing me several hundred dollars
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[04:22:00] _EdmGuy__: now lets see if I can actually get it working all at once now :)
[04:22:00] _EdmGuy__: CVS?
[04:22:00] _EdmGuy__: which cvs
[04:24:00] simcop2387: the pharmacy
[04:24:00] _EdmGuy__: tried your 30 second restart...now it all works together
[04:24:00] _EdmGuy__: it's been a fun two days
[04:25:00] _EdmGuy__: two computers, three video cards, reinstalls, adapters from Circuit City
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[04:25:00] _EdmGuy__: and about $300
[04:25:00] _EdmGuy__: okay now I have a flashing line on the bottom of my display, I can fix that with some offset adjustment?
[04:25:00] simcop2387: _EdmGuy__: i'm working on setting up a mythtv box for my parents to the point where they can use it easily, with no problems (which is why i want an IR blaster)
[04:26:00] _EdmGuy__: yeah same reason I bought the 150
[04:27:00] simcop2387: _EdmGuy__: yea theres some overscan setting in the playback settings in frontend, that flashing line is the VBI (some firmwares for the 150 have bugs that do that, the one i'm using [which i can't yet get on the web again] has that fixed)
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[04:36:00] Knowerrors: Anybody here use xawtv? Im trying to get it to display at a different resolution than my kde desktop...
[04:39:00] EnterUserName: bah..
[04:39:00] EnterUserName: remote control crashed again :)
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[04:52:00] ** _EdmGuy__ schedules a bunch of his shows... :) **
[04:52:00] simcop2387: :)
[04:53:00] _EdmGuy__: having some gitters using the on card mpeg decoding
[04:57:00] simcop2387: i never liked xvmc much
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[05:08:00] EnterUserName: WOO HOO
[05:08:00] EnterUserName: The new ati drivers fixed my crashign problem
[05:08:00] EnterUserName: thats one good thing that ati did :)
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[05:19:00] simcop2387: EnterUserName: awsome
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[05:53:00] banyan: Anybody have chaos erupt owing to a recent ivtv update? My ivtv won't load because it says something about my v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw not being in the hotplug directory. Is this not just supposed to be in /lib/modules?
[05:59:00] fallenangel: anyone configure a newer hauppauge remote to have full functionality with mythtv? like using the arrows and such to navigate?
[06:04:00] banyan: Sort of, I have a multifunction remote that I have programmed the grey remote keys into.
[06:05:00] banyan: I can manoeuvre the menus and fast forward in live programs.
[06:05:00] banyan: that sort of thing.
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[06:06:00] banyan: you looking for a configuration file fallenangel?
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[06:09:00] fallenangel: well i am trying to do it manually right now
[06:10:00] fallenangel: like if i am in my mythfront end, i want my arrow keys on the remote to control movement, rather than hitting the Ch+ button
[06:11:00] fallenangel: i am assuming its just relating the a button to the right command, i just wondered if there were more complete config files out there, i don't like the one that comes with mythtv
[06:11:00] banyan: http://pastebin.com/471340 — is my lircrc.
[06:11:00] banyan: There are ways to do that but maybe not exactly what you have in mind.
[06:14:00] fallenangel: thanks
[06:18:00] kormoc: GreyFoxx, you around?
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[06:24:00] banyan: I'm assuming there's a reason that the latest ivtv update doesn't just put the new hotplug firmware in the /lib/hotplug directory...
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[06:46:00] hn: ugh
[06:47:00] hn: I just keep running into troubles trying to get mythtv up and running
[06:47:00] hn: and all I want to do is watch some tv with my card =/
[06:49:00] hn: the tv_grab_nl program keeps saying "could not fetch http://www.tvgids.nl/zoekprogramma.php?station=1&interval=0, aborting"
[06:50:00] hn: and mythfrontend keeps hanging for like 20 seconds when ever I hit ESC to exit a menu
[06:51:00] hn: and all these mythbefore it hangs it says "2005-12–20 07:38:28.863 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION:" in the console
[06:51:00] hn: what is wrong?
[06:52:00] hn: now I can't even watch tv anymore, it just gives a back screen for a few seconds and then pops back to the menu
[06:53:00] hn: black*
[06:59:00] hn: time for sleep, maybe I will be able to solve all these problems with a fresh mind
[06:59:00] hn: =/
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[07:05:00] DanielHolth: Howdy there, I am just trynig to figure whether in mythtranscode vbr encoding — higher numbers mean a. bigger file or b. smaller file. ?
[07:07:00] DanielHolth: also the sync is terrible!
[07:07:00] DanielHolth: with xvid
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[07:27:00] poop_: wtf?
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[07:29:00] poop: no really, I'll handle this, irssi
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[07:29:00] DanielHolth: figured it out.
[07:29:00] DanielHolth: now to conquer the av synch
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[09:46:00] davro: Hi just trying to setup ivtv Module options, http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto#Module_options i do not quite understand where they should go, im running ubuntu breezy.
[09:47:00] davro: Im prsuming ubuntu, uses udev ?
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[09:53:00] davro: Seems strange that i have no /dev/video*
[09:57:00] quicksilver: the devices don't appear until you have successfully modprobed the right modules
[09:57:00] quicksilver: as far as I understand it
[09:59:00] davro: mmm, just need to find the right ones ?
[10:00:00] SlicerDicer-: davro: modprobe ivtv
[10:01:00] SlicerDicer-: IIRC on ubuntu you can add ivtv to your /etc/modules.autoload/kernel-2.6 or something similar
[10:01:00] SlicerDicer-: if I am wrong dont bake me on a open fire
[10:03:00] davro: done, sudo modprobe -v ivtv this insmod`ed drivers/media/video/videodev.ko, drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.ko, drivers/media/video/ivtv.ko
[10:04:00] SlicerDicer-: well did /dev/video work properly now?
[10:04:00] SlicerDicer-: well I mean this is assuming you have your input set correctly
[10:05:00] davro: nope, still no /dev/video
[10:05:00] SlicerDicer-: you may need tune.pl and also use ivtvctl to set all the stuff
[10:05:00] dagfinnr: is there a way to use another transcoder than the built in MPEG4 and RTjpeg? Im not getting smooth video after transcoding at all..90% cpu usage..
[10:05:00] davro: where is tune.pl ?
[10:05:00] juski: dagfinnr: what CPU do you have?
[10:06:00] SlicerDicer-: davro: I dont use but I know some do if your not going to use RS232 or Firewire to control a cablebox
[10:06:00] SlicerDicer-: I have no idea where to get tune.pl I just know I read about it and heard about it :)
[10:06:00] dagfinnr: juski, 1ghz via epia..but when watching livetv or xvid i have a load of 10–20% ..
[10:06:00] SlicerDicer-: but you will need to specify your video input with ivtvctl and for the life of me I cannot remember how to do it or where I read to do it
[10:07:00] SlicerDicer-: davro: I am sure somebody around here can pop you to a howto
[10:07:00] juski: dagfinnr: I have problems watching transcoded video unless I activate timestretching (for some really weird reason)
[10:07:00] davro: ok, fair enought cheers
[10:07:00] dagfinnr: juski, where can i activate that?
[10:07:00] juski: dagfinnr: that's on my EPIAM-10k
[10:07:00] dagfinnr: ok
[10:07:00] juski: dagfinnr: press menu when you're playing back
[10:07:00] dagfinnr: yeah,thats the board i have too
[10:08:00] juski: or there are keys for timestretching – dunno what they are – I've never mapped em to my remote
[10:08:00] dagfinnr: juski, its on 1x
[10:08:00] juski: so try it on 1.1x
[10:10:00] juski: is the machine just a frontend?
[10:10:00] dagfinnr: no
[10:10:00] dagfinnr: backend too
[10:11:00] juski: I mean you're not trying to watch & transcode at the same time are you?
[10:11:00] dagfinnr: well, i dont know if its transcoding now.. how can i pause the transcoding?
[10:11:00] SlicerDicer-: davro: you may be able to use ivtv-detect
[10:12:00] ** wole shouts a quick 'ning **
[10:12:00] dagfinnr: theres no transcodings
[10:12:00] davro: just run ivtv-detect and it seemed todo nothing ?
[10:13:00] SlicerDicer-: davro: it should locate your input that you are using? I am just guessing here I have never used it :)
[10:13:00] SlicerDicer-: check your /dev/video now
[10:14:00] ivor: dagfinnr: what are you transcoding from?
[10:14:00] davro: nope still no /dev/video, only vcs* files
[10:14:00] dagfinnr: MPEG2-TS i think ivor ?
[10:14:00] SlicerDicer-: /dev/video0 is what you are checking correct?
[10:15:00] dagfinnr: mpeg2-ps i mean
[10:15:00] ivor: dagfinnr: what video driver are you using on your epia?
[10:15:00] dagfinnr: ivor, how can i check?
[10:15:00] davro: yup correct looking for /dev/video0 /dev/video1 hopefully as its a PVR500
[10:15:00] davro: lsmod | grep ivtv
[10:15:00] davro: ivtv 178452 0
[10:15:00] davro: i2c_algo_bit 8584 1 ivtv
[10:15:00] davro: videodev 9344 1 ivtv
[10:15:00] davro: firmware_class 9472 2 ivtv,cx25840
[10:16:00] davro: seems the module is load from what i can see ?
[10:16:00] ivor: dagfinnr: 1. are you playing back through the epia video out or a separate video card. 2. are you using xvmc acceleration.
[10:17:00] SlicerDicer-: davro: ohh crap pvr500... I know nothing about that one :/ sorry buddy I have gone as far as I can anyway
[10:18:00] davro: Cheers for the help mate, from what i can seen its just two PVR150
[10:18:00] dagfinnr: ivor, im using the vga at the moment. 2. i think so..but forget where i can check..where?
[10:20:00] ivor: dagfinnr: settings, setup, tv settings, playback
[10:20:00] juski: dagfinnr: if you're getting 10% CPU while playing back mpeg2 you've got xvmc
[10:20:00] juski: put it this way – it won't keep up with mpeg2 without xvmc
[10:20:00] ivor: and you're transcoding to something that isn't accelerated.
[10:20:00] dagfinnr: opengl is on, xvmc is on, hw xvmc is on
[10:20:00] ivor: there you go.
[10:21:00] juski: ivor: I can play divx & xvid fine on my EPIA – we've got the same board
[10:21:00] dagfinnr: i can also play xvid/divx fine
[10:21:00] ivor: can play divx and xvid... with what? mplayer? xine?
[10:21:00] dagfinnr: mplayer
[10:22:00] ivor: right. and it'll use more than 10% cpu.
[10:22:00] dagfinnr: no
[10:22:00] ivor: the built in myth player won't play transcoded videos with such a low cpu
[10:22:00] dagfinnr: im playing it now, mplayer uses 9.6% cpu and 2,8% mem
[10:22:00] ivor: what sort of load do you see if you play one of your transcoded recordings with mplayer.
[10:22:00] dagfinnr: 90–100%
[10:23:00] ivor: with mplayer?
[10:23:00] dagfinnr: im using the built in
[10:23:00] ivor: ?
[10:24:00] davro: Anyone managed to get a PVR500 working ?
[10:24:00] dagfinnr: i dunno if its mplayer when playing recordings, but its only displaying mytfrontend ..(when i see at the top command)
[10:24:00] dagfinnr: but i guess thats mplayer too? i havent changed anything there
[10:24:00] ivor: I know... hence the question... what sort of cpu load do you see when you play one of your transcoded recordings with mplayer.
[10:25:00] dagfinnr: well..just now i have 98% load
[10:25:00] dagfinnr: and it would be a shame to call it smooth playback ;)
[10:25:00] dagfinnr: the sound is almost ok, the picture is displaying every 10–20 frames
[10:26:00] dagfinnr: juski, what speed do you have the timestretch on?
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[10:27:00] davro: When using a PVR500 do i have to create the /dev/videoX node's myself of should ivtv handle this when modprobe'd ?
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[10:34:00] juski: dagfinnr: when I go to view a transcoded recording and play it at normal speed, it flashes green & is very jerky. BUT when I play it back at any other speed using timestretch, it works great – and the OSD beccomes coloured (the right colour btw)
[10:34:00] juski: dagfinnr: maybe myth isn't reverting to Xv when xvmc is too slow.. xine does that I think
[10:35:00] dagfinnr: juski, is there a howto using xine for playback instead of mplayer?
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[10:37:00] dagfinnr: juski, i tried typing mplayer somefile.nuv ..and i got a green mplayer window, smooth sound,,but no picture
[10:40:00] dagfinnr: OMG! i had some stupid playback settings..some filter shit i tried and forgot to remove
[10:40:00] dagfinnr: stupid me
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[10:42:00] dagfinnr: thanks for trying to help juski and ivor
[10:43:00] dagfinnr: what bitrate is preferred to have in the recording profiles..for MPEG2-PS?
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[10:45:00] dagfinnr: welcome back ivor
[10:46:00] ivor_: network trouble. :)
[10:46:00] ivor_: how's playback load now?
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[10:47:00] dagfinnr: :) its like 70%
[10:48:00] dagfinnr: but thats when commflagg is running too
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[10:49:00] dagfinnr: between 50 and 70%
[10:50:00] dagfinnr: but why is the recordings osd colored and the livetv black and white?
[10:50:00] ivor: because livetv is mpeg2 which is using xvmc which has a black and white osd.
[10:52:00] dagfinnr: so im stuck with black and white with this board? no tricks?
[10:52:00] ivor: none that you'd want to do.
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[10:53:00] dagfinnr: hehe
[10:53:00] dagfinnr: what kind of deinterlance filters is good to use?
[10:53:00] ivor: bob
[10:54:00] dagfinnr: and would it help on a antenna singal?
[10:54:00] juski: dagfinnr: the OSD being monochrome is caused my xvmc
[10:54:00] dagfinnr: ok
[10:54:00] juski: dagfinnr: bob is the best deinterlacer for the unichrome drivers
[10:55:00] dagfinnr: should i use lib2mpeg2 for decoding in the settings?
[10:55:00] dagfinnr: juski, ok, thats what im using now
[10:55:00] juski: dagfinnr: whatever works best
[10:55:00] dagfinnr: juski, what works best? :Å
[10:55:00] dagfinnr: :)
[10:55:00] ivor: libmpeg2 makes no difference for xvmc.
[10:55:00] dagfinnr: k
[10:55:00] juski: put it this way – even horizontal scrolling text in tv shows looks smooth _as_ on my frontend
[10:56:00] dagfinnr: k
[10:56:00] dagfinnr: is there any custom filters whos good to have?
[10:57:00] juski: dagfinnr: bob deint should be enough
[10:58:00] dagfinnr: k
[10:58:00] juski: if it ain't broke... ;)
[10:58:00] dagfinnr: hehe
[10:59:00] juski: maybe an mpeg de-blocking filter would be good – but my DVB-T recordings look better than my NTL cable box
[10:59:00] dagfinnr: juski, should i use xine rather than mplayer?
[10:59:00] dagfinnr: what does the de-blocking filter do?
[10:59:00] juski: dagfinnr: I just prefer xine to mplayer – and xine can be patched to use the EPIA acceleration
[11:00:00] juski: de-blocking filters smooth out mpeg compression artifacts you see on playback. XBMC has them and they can work quite well
[11:00:00] dagfinnr: juski, is there a tutorial for using xine instead of mplayer?
[11:00:00] dagfinnr: juski, cool..how do i use that filter?
[11:01:00] juski: dagfinnr: to use xine just put xine in your media playback preferences
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[11:01:00] juski: the 'player command' field is what you want
[11:02:00] dagfinnr: ah
[11:02:00] ivor: juski: I thought you said you were transcoding all your recordings to mpeg4?
[11:02:00] juski: as for playback filters – I have no idea. never looked into it because playback looks good enough
[11:02:00] ivor: dagfinnr: the mplayer/xine playback setting controls what player is used for mythvideo files, not livetv or recorded programs.
[11:02:00] juski: ivor: no – I've tried transcoding some recordings
[11:03:00] juski: and for playing back recordings you're stuck with myth's internal player
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[11:03:00] ivor: heh. reading back it looks like you told dagfinnr you were also transcoding everything to mpeg4 and you had great quality and low cpu usage. :D
[11:04:00] juski: at no point did I say I was transcoding all my recordings ;)
[11:05:00] juski: I would, if I could play the buggers back properly though.. and if transcode _worked_ 100% of the time
[11:06:00] ivor: juski: heh sure, just saying I think that's what dagfinnr assumed you were saying... reading back through the conversation.
[11:06:00] juski: at the weekend I was trying to transcode some recordings and 3 of them just wouldn't no matter what I tried. Not even PVAStrumento in Windows could fix em. Even ProjectX crashed out trying them
[11:06:00] dagfinnr: now its getting green and jerky if not using 1.1 time..
[11:06:00] juski: dagfinnr: that's exactly what I get
[11:06:00] dagfinnr: but it seems that its not saved when exiting the recording and selecting another one
[11:06:00] dagfinnr: how could i save the timestretch setting?
[11:07:00] ivor: dagfinnr: the question is do you really need to save the diskspace by transcoding?
[11:07:00] juski: but I bet if you copy the file to where you store your videos & add it into mythvideo's database, xine will play it back perfectly, which is kind of annoying
[11:07:00] ivor: juski: don't you find that the quality isn't good enough when you transcode dvb-t down though?
[11:07:00] juski: maybe when you timestretch you're not using xvmc anymore
[11:07:00] juski: ivor: nope
[11:07:00] ivor: if you've transcoded you're NOT using xvmc.
[11:08:00] ivor: juski: hmm what res rate do you use? I was never happy with the result when I tried.
[11:08:00] juski: ahh but maybe myth is still _trying_ to use xvmc, which is why the problem occurs
[11:08:00] dagfinnr: xine fucks up my remote settings..only 3 buttons work
[11:08:00] juski: ivor – 1mbps, 720x576
[11:09:00] juski: dagfinnr: only coz you've not set it up in your lircrc
[11:09:00] dagfinnr: juski, do i have to configure it for xine too?
[11:09:00] dagfinnr: is there a predefined one for the newer grey haupp remote?
[11:09:00] juski: but like I said, ivor, there's no point using transcode for me anymore .. 1 I can't play it back when it's done and 2. it fails on some recordings
[11:09:00] ivor: :)
[11:10:00] juski: dagfinnr: duh ;)
[11:10:00] juski: jusy buy a bigger HDD and have done with it :-D
[11:10:00] dagfinnr: juski, ?
[11:10:00] dagfinnr: hehe
[11:11:00] juski: dagfinnr: google is your best mate for finding people's LIRC configs
[11:11:00] dagfinnr: :)
[11:11:00] ** juski made all his LIRC stuff from scratch.. it's a piece of pie **
[11:12:00] ** wole thinks juski is showing off again ;) **
[11:12:00] ** juski thinks wole is wrong. Juski is only acting _smug_ **
[11:12:00] ivor: I'm still not happy with my remote mapping... think I'll change it again.
[11:12:00] ** wole suspects that juski is in fact correct and shuts his mouth **
[11:13:00] juski: lol
[11:13:00] juski: are we done talking in the 3rd person now? ;)
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[11:14:00] wole: yeah,, sorry
[11:16:00] wole: right, i need to extract the aspect ratio from nuv files. anyone got any idea how to do it?
[11:16:00] wole: (not using mplayer)
[11:16:00] wole: ('cos it doesn't work)
[11:17:00] juski: wole: you making a trascode script?
[11:17:00] wole: juski: modifying mkmovie, cos it doesn't work
[11:17:00] juski: ah
[11:18:00] wole: i really like it's functionality
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[11:18:00] wole: well, i have made it work, bt it makes square video 'cos it thinks that everything has square pixels
[11:21:00] wole: think i'll try vlc
[11:21:00] juski: would ffmpeg not be able to report the video specs?
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[11:27:00] juski: "no" would be the answer to that question
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[11:36:00] dagfinnr: juski, what remote you use? :)
[11:37:00] juski: dagfinnr: a 'one-for-all-6' which I reprogrammed with JP1
[11:39:00] dagfinnr: neat
[11:39:00] dagfinnr: so you use the same remote you you tv as on the mythbox?
[11:40:00] juski: yep
[11:40:00] juski: same remote for my Yamaha receiver too
[11:40:00] dagfinnr: cool
[11:42:00] dagfinnr: everyone talks about their lirc file for xine,but noone posts it..(from the google search)
[11:43:00] juski: dagfinnr: it's pretty easy to work it out. I worked mine out from a hauppauge lircrc file
[11:43:00] dagfinnr: where can i see the different functions whos available in xine?
[11:44:00] juski: that's a toughie
[11:44:00] juski: dagfinnr: you say you have a lircrc where xine has only 3 remote buttons working, right..
[11:45:00] dagfinnr: yeah
[11:46:00] dagfinnr: so i only need to figure what the different actions in xine are called
[11:46:00] dagfinnr: ie fast forward
[11:47:00] dagfinnr: subtitle on/off
[11:47:00] dagfinnr: etc
[11:47:00] davro: strange after a reboot te video* node where created ?, now cat /dev/video0 > ~/test.mpg works but its looks fuzzy as if it needs tuning ?
[11:48:00] juski: http://pastebin.ca/34317
[11:48:00] juski: I don't use subtitles btw
[11:49:00] dagfinnr: why not
[11:50:00] juski: erm.. I'm not deaf & I dont watch foreign language films ;)
[11:51:00] dagfinnr: hehe
[11:51:00] juski: IIRC not even the xine website has easy to find info on what the keys should be called
[11:52:00] juski: though I think there's a commandline option you can use that lists them all
[11:52:00] dagfinnr: yeah i found
[11:52:00] dagfinnr: but you were talking about some tweaks for the xine getting the m10k board work better?
[11:53:00] juski: yeah you build it with support for xvmc for EPIA
[11:53:00] juski: www.epiawiki.org
[11:54:00] dagfinnr: isnt there any pre-built with yum or something? :P
[11:54:00] ivor: ugh that wiki's a real mess and rather outdated.
[11:54:00] ivor: you don't need any tweaks for xine. just the latest version. it's all in the box.
[11:55:00] dagfinnr: k
[11:56:00] juski: ivor: cool
[11:57:00] juski: out of interest, since when has xine supported EPIA gear by default?
[11:57:00] ivor: ages
[12:01:00] davro: When running mythfrontend, then selecting WatchTv the console outputs Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/var/cache/mythtv//ringbuf1.nuv
[12:01:00] davro: 2005-12–20 12:00:06.404 LiveTV not successfully started
[12:02:00] dagfinnr: what does the repeat = something in the lirc config do?
[12:02:00] juski: davro: no user permissions on the ringbuffer directory?
[12:03:00] juski: dagfinnr: sets how many times a key has to be received before it starts to repeat iirc
[12:03:00] dagfinnr: ah
[12:03:00] davro: juski, so i should do something like, chown mythtv /var/cache/mythtv
[12:03:00] juski: davro: yup. if mythtv doesn't already own it
[12:04:00] juski: or maybe you should run mythbackend in a console to see what it's doing
[12:05:00] davro: mmm is setup as, /var/cache/mythtv drwxrwsr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4096 2005-12–20 12:00 mythtv
[12:05:00] juski: in that case davro you need to run mythbackend in a terminal session
[12:06:00] juski: then open mythfrontend in another
[12:07:00] juski: the reason it can't read the ringbuffer file may be that it's not being written
[12:07:00] juski: i.e. capture card(s) not set up properly etc
[12:07:00] juski: or no channel data...
[12:08:00] davro: mythbackend is show this error, QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket, Failed to bind port: 6543
[12:09:00] juski: davro: is this machine running both front & backend?
[12:10:00] davro: Just done /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start , Starting MythTV server: mythbackend/usr/bin/mythbackend already running.
[12:10:00] juski: ahh wait a sec davro. did you stop the mythbackend daemon already?
[12:10:00] levon: davro, you most likely have an application setting on port 6543 already. netstat -ltnp will reveal it (though I bet you have another mythbackend process hanging around)
[12:10:00] juski: so do /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop
[12:10:00] dagfinnr: juski, regarding the timestretch option..how did i save it? it goes back to 1.0 every time
[12:10:00] levon: s/setting/sitting/
[12:10:00] juski: dagfinnr: you don't
[12:11:00] juski: dagfinnr: but you can map an IR key to the timestretch+ key, if you have one spare
[12:11:00] dagfinnr: juski, so it cant be saved? i have to change every tome?
[12:11:00] juski: anyhow.. lunchtime
[12:11:00] dagfinnr: yeah
[12:11:00] dagfinnr: good lunch
[12:11:00] juski: or stop transcoding
[12:11:00] dagfinnr: hehe
[12:14:00] davro: yup that seemed to be the problem, now when i Watch TV im gettting program infomation on screen, but no picture, does it need tuning ?
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[12:24:00] juski: davro: what do you mean 'no picture'.. static, or just nothing?
[12:25:00] davro: yup static, some little white dots.
[12:27:00] davro: plugged a standard tv into the composite line and the tv works fine so there is a signal
[12:27:00] juski: yeh you need to put some data into the freqid field of the channel editor for each channel
[12:32:00] davro: ok, im in the channel editor, but i cannot see any fields called freqid ?
[12:35:00] davro: found the frequency ID, and they are already populated with the channel numbers.
[12:35:00] juski: ay yes, but are they the right numbers?
[12:37:00] davro: proberlynot, but they seemed logical, im in the uk channel 5 had the freqid of 5, is that correct ?
[12:37:00] juski: nope
[12:38:00] juski: just as BBC1 won't be '1'
[12:38:00] juski: look em up on the OFCOM website
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[12:39:00] juski: now this is the bit I'm not sure about.. either you put in the channel number (UHF channel number, e.g. '65'), or you have to use the actual frequency that the channel is on
[12:42:00] juski: just done some reading.,. pretty sure it's the UHF channel number you put into the frequency id field
[12:42:00] rordog: anybody have any experience with recording over firewire with a dct-6200
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[12:57:00] ** neuro|laptop waves **
[12:58:00] jono: heya neuro|laptop
[13:00:00] ** neuro|laptop will be building hopefully a final, complete mythtv system soon, so thought i'd lurk it out for a while til I buy my kit :) **
[13:00:00] ** neuro|laptop pokes jono with a kipper **
[13:01:00] ** jono flinches **
[13:03:00] ** ivor has just started commflagging 300Gb of video. :) **
[13:03:00] neuro|laptop: what's that in hours? :)
[13:04:00] juski: hiya jono
[13:04:00] ivor: neuro|laptop: no idea. lots.
[13:04:00] jono: juski, heya mate :)
[13:04:00] neuro|laptop: :)
[13:04:00] jono: would you say its a good idea to wait for 2.6.15?
[13:05:00] jono: cause it seems like the ivtv 0.4.1 works with .15 onwards
[13:05:00] juski: jono: after seeing what umbongo did to my system last night, I'd say er... run, run for the hills!
[13:05:00] jono: juski, heh
[13:06:00] juski: saying that, it was probably not umbongo's fault. I dunno the state of v4l dvb drivers right now
[13:07:00] ivor: jono: wait for 15 as opposed to? using 15-rc6?
[13:08:00] jono: ivor, 15 final release
[13:08:00] juski: what's the latest breezy kernel? i updated mine to it last night & it totally fucked my DVB card up
[13:09:00] jono: juski, I am using 2.6.12–9 as opposed to the newer 2.6.12–10 – it fucked my ivtv up
[13:09:00] jono: gonna compile a 2.6.15 when its out though
[13:09:00] juski: 12?! like wtf?
[13:10:00] juski: that's like _so_ last year, man
[13:10:00] ivor: juski: heh my frontend was still on 2.6.8 till a few weeks ago. :)
[13:10:00] juski: I think my Gentoo box is using newer than that, and I haven't touched that for _months_
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[13:11:00] juski: it'll be the last time I ever let that damn updater do its thing with a working system
[13:11:00] juski: wanted to put mysql4 on there
[13:11:00] juski: like er.. NO!
[13:12:00] jono: I still dont fully get how kernel .15 will fix the conflicts between nova-t and pvr-350 cards
[13:13:00] jono: are the ivtv drivers in the new kernel or somehting?
[13:13:00] juski: jono: changes to the v4l side... and v4l & ivtv are merging
[13:13:00] juski: well using a common API in future at least
[13:16:00] jono: and does this all come in .15?
[13:17:00] juski: nope
[13:17:00] jono: so what does moving to .15 buy me?
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[13:32:00] juski: jono: bugger. just seen something about loading ivtv before trying to load the dvb drivers
[13:38:00] ** juski goes to post a comment in jono's blog **
[13:39:00] ivor: he broke the toilet?
[13:44:00] juski: apparently
[13:45:00] juski: what's all this about module aliases? could someone please explain it to me?
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[14:19:00] davro: when setting up the Capture Cards, Video device = /dev/video0 Default input = Should it be Tuner of Composite0 , im using a PVR500 with normal tv cable pluged into single back connection.
[14:20:00] davro: Have tryed them both now along with freqid but im still getting static.
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[14:24:00] juski: davro: try the ivtv-tune utility to find your channels
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[14:33:00] davro: right ivtv-tune -c1 -d/dev/video0 returns /dev/video0: 73.250 MHz starting to lose hope.
[14:34:00] juski: 73.250Mhz.. that's way too low for any TV channels
[14:36:00] juski: I'm going off the docs here, but try ivtv-tune -tUK -cx (where x is the UHF channel for BBC1 in your area taken from the bbc reception advice website)
[14:37:00] juski: you could try to see if you have ptune-ui too
[14:38:00] davro: Invalid channel for 'UK', checked ptune-ui but its not on the command lin, proberly need to compile it of something.
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[14:38:00] quicksilver: I don't know what package did it, but when I did apt-get install xawtv
[14:39:00] quicksilver: something just tuned all my channels automatically
[14:40:00] davro: will try anything, quicksilver, just apt-getting xawtv
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[14:43:00] davro: nothing really happened.
[14:44:00] quicksilver: :(
[14:46:00] davro: Proberly going to give up played around now for two days, it seems abit of a myth
[14:46:00] juski: davro
[14:46:00] juski: look it's quite simple
[14:47:00] juski: all UK channels are referred to by numbers ranging from 21 to 68
[14:47:00] juski: which number a channel is depends on where you live, right
[14:47:00] davro: Yup got that http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/transmitters/t . . . rystal.shtml
[14:48:00] juski: and as far as I can tell, that number is what you put into the frequency id field in the channel editor
[14:48:00] juski: now – all this assumes your tuner card is set up properly
[14:48:00] rordog: hey sorry to keep repeating the question, but does anyone know why a dct-6200 connected over firewire would tune tv just fine, but when you start a recording the screen goes black
[14:48:00] rordog: it also generates errors like this in the mythbackendlog: 2005-12–19 07:37:58.976 Invalid file handle when opening /myth/tv/1013_200512190
[14:48:00] rordog: 71300_20051219090000.nuv. 3 retries remaining.
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[14:54:00] Blam-phone: morning all.. Merry chris-makah-za
[14:55:00] laga: chris-makah-za?
[14:55:00] laga: good afternoon, btw ;)
[14:55:00] levon: gude laga
[14:55:00] laga: guten tag levon
[14:56:00] levon: laga: you gotta read it "phonetically" ;)
[14:56:00] Blam-phone: sorry, heard that somewhere... Christmas, hanukah, quanza..
[14:56:00] ** laga just doesn't get it **
[14:56:00] davro: found that ./ptune.pl, even that fails Can't locate Video/Frequencies.pm at ./ptune.pl line 8
[14:57:00] juski: davro: best give up & put windows on the box then eh
[14:57:00] Blam-phone: devro – missing th supporting perl modules
[14:57:00] davro: windows what that ?
[14:57:00] ** levon slaps juski **
[14:57:00] levon: he said the w word!!!
[14:57:00] levon: :P
[14:58:00] Blam-phone: ..Kick em..  :)
[14:58:00] davro: bsd maybe ~
[14:58:00] juski: levon: you not have portals you can see thru in your house? ;)
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[14:58:00] levon: juski, actually... yes.... but I don't have a keyboard nor screen attached to them ;)
[14:58:00] davro: but i might agree with the giving up part.
[14:58:00] levon: hehe ;)
[14:59:00] Blam-phone: brb
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[14:59:00] juski: davro: don't give up just coz you can't tune to owt
[14:59:00] juski: defeatism never got anybody anywhere :)
[15:00:00] laga: what about the french?
[15:00:00] davro: Like you rightly said it might be a that the card is no configured proberly.
[15:00:00] juski: if you don't find challenges like this fun (even in a perverse way) then why use Linux?
[15:01:00] juski: davro: if you can see static, chances are all is well, so long as you've done the biz with ivtv
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[15:04:00] davro: yup ithink the ivtv stuff is ok, as all the video nodes where created.
[15:05:00] juski: right
[15:06:00] juski: there's a small chance the tuner type wasn't autodetected, but that might be all
[15:06:00] juski: anyway laga: what about the French? ;-)
[15:09:00] laga: juski: well, defeatism.
[15:09:00] davro: dmesg [4294716.698000] tveeprom: tuner = Philips FQ1216AME MK4 (idx = 91, type = 56)
[15:09:00] davro: [4294716.698000] tveeprom: tuner fmt = PAL(B/G) PAL(I) SECAM(L/L') PAL(D/K) (eeprom = 0x74, v4l2 = 0x00400e17)
[15:09:00] laga: darn, he is french.
[15:09:00] laga: sorry :))))
[15:09:00] ** laga has got to run now **
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[15:11:00] juski: heheh
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[15:11:00] juski: davro: looking good I think
[15:12:00] juski: davro: so. you've tried putting the UHF channel number for BBC1 or whatever into the frequency ID field .. and it still aint tuning
[15:12:00] juski: then maybe it's after the actual frequency.... someone found a way to convert the UHF chan number ito a real frequency yesterday-- search the archive
[15:13:00] scanwinder: ?
[15:13:00] davro: Yes, that is correct Just checking settings, Global backend setup, as channel frequency table was us-cable ?
[15:13:00] juski: ah
[15:13:00] juski: needs to be europe-west
[15:14:00] juski: that'd diddle it good
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[15:15:00] davro: i do have to restart the backend after making changes ?
[15:15:00] scanwinder: im getting this error when i go "make" from the ivtv source directory: "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9–386/build: No such file or directory. Stop." but after looking around, i found out that the file does exist in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10–386 is there a way to direct it to the right place?
[15:15:00] juski: Frequency (Mhz) = ((UHF channel number) *8 +306)
[15:16:00] juski: davro: dunno – but it won't hurt
[15:17:00] juski: yikes! www.mythbox.co.uk are planning to sell ready made mythtv boxen :-/
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[15:24:00] ExitMenu: hello I am having some issues with nuvexport in that in all the output content the sound goes out of sync. I was wondering if anyone else had this problem or knew a solution
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[15:30:00] quicksilver: scanwinder: install kernel-headers
[15:30:00] quicksilver: scanwinder: you on debian?
[15:30:00] quicksilver: scanwinder: you want to apt-get install kernel-headers-X-Y-Z for some appropriate value of X,Y and Z (if debian)
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[15:33:00] davro: juski, I stayed with thew UHF numbers, changed the Backend channel freq table, now i have "Visual" of a fashion, but no sound.
[15:34:00] davro: Well its a start moving pictures are better than static, proves the card ok.
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[15:39:00] juski: davro: good news then.. worth persevering
[15:41:00] davro: Thank you for the motivation, just need to looking the sound now.
[15:43:00] ExitMenu: does anyone thing my problem with nuvexport could be due to my signal being pal some people have suggest this is an issue in foums but I was wondering what you guys though
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[15:53:00] _polto_: hi
[15:55:00] ExitMenu: ok I guess I am asking dumb questions or nobody here know never mind
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[16:13:00] ivor: hmm interesting: http://www.geocities.com/beopc/ wonder if that's just a socket with wiring in it or has a small circuit inside the socket...
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[16:25:00] hn: is having 15 instances of mythbackend running normal?
[16:25:00] ** NightBird blinks **
[16:25:00] hn: =|
[16:25:00] NightBird: dunno, but it sounds like alot to me
[16:25:00] hn: yeah I thought so too =]
[16:26:00] hn: it's what I got when I did ps auxww | grep mythbackend
[16:26:00] hn: actually it's 12, not 15
[16:26:00] NightBird: my myth box is quite a ways away, so I can't tell you what it's doing
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[16:27:00] kgbudz: where can i find info on user jobs
[16:27:00] kgbudz: for example, i just setup user job #1 to do some special transcoding
[16:27:00] kgbudz: does this job now run after every recording, or do i have to trigger this job?
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[16:32:00] kgbudz: like i want to create a job where i trigger it
[16:32:00] kgbudz: i dont want it to happen for every recording
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[16:42:00] Baylink: ISTR there are knobs for that in mythtv-setup, kgbudz
[16:43:00] kgbudz: i dont see them
[16:44:00] Baylink: CHeck boxes? Near the job entry fields?
[16:44:00] hn: how can I make mythtv use tv_grab_nl_wolf instead of tv_grab_nl? the latter one just gives a 404 error but it's the only one listed in mythsetup
[16:44:00] kgbudz: i have 1 page with 2 text fields for each job number
[16:44:00] kgbudz: the discription and the commdn
[16:44:00] kgbudz: description and command
[16:45:00] davro: Have got mythtv running apart from audio, with help from juski, now im looking to configure the audio sound work with xmms but not with mythtv ?
[16:47:00] Krazylegz: hn: Edit the videosource table.
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[16:49:00] hn: can I do that in mythsetup? maybe I'm blind but I couldn't find it =/
[16:52:00] Krazylegz: No, you will need to use some type of MySQL tool: phpMyAdmin, MySQL CLI, etc.
[16:52:00] hn: ugh
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[16:52:00] hn: alright, thanks for the help =]
[16:54:00] kgbudz: has anyone used ffmpeg to transcode to nokia 6230 vidz
[16:55:00] juski: hometime ;)
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[17:05:00] jono: hey
[17:06:00] Krazylegz: Hey
[17:08:00] rjune: hey jono, how goes it?
[17:09:00] jono: rjune, good thanks, you ?
[17:09:00] rjune: waiting for the wife to pop
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[17:13:00] jono: rjune, to pop? as in to die or to give birth?
[17:13:00] rjune: give birth
[17:13:00] jono: heh, just checking
[17:13:00] jono: wow congrats dude :)
[17:13:00] rjune: :-) thanks
[17:14:00] jono: gonna be a dad :)
[17:14:00] rjune: is our second.
[17:14:00] rjune: another bouncing baby boy
[17:14:00] ivor: how old's the first?
[17:14:00] Krazylegz: The bounce?
[17:14:00] Krazylegz: *They bounce?
[17:14:00] rjune: ivor: 2
[17:14:00] rjune: Krazylegz: yup
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[17:14:00] Beirdo: christmas-time baby
[17:15:00] Beirdo: poor kid, don't screw him outta presents
[17:15:00] ** Beirdo is 2 days shy of a birthday and knows all about it **
[17:15:00] Beirdo: and congrats :)
[17:16:00] rjune: my wife is Dec 16
[17:16:00] rjune: our anniversery is Dec 28
[17:16:00] rjune: Dec is a net loss month
[17:16:00] Beirdo: OK, so you already have the "many presents" thing understood :)
[17:16:00] ivor: anniversary card. shit. knew there was something I was supposed to get today.
[17:17:00] Beirdo: but the good thing is, finding toys for his birthday will be easier
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[17:17:00] ** ivor hunts for a post-it note. **
[17:17:00] rjune: LOL
[17:17:00] jono: Beirdo, cool nick dude :P
[17:17:00] Beirdo: lots of Christmas toys to be had
[17:17:00] Beirdo: thanks :)
[17:17:00] jono: Beirdo, as a man of long beirdyness, I respect such things :)
[17:17:00] rjune: not this year, this is a bad year for toys.
[17:17:00] Beirdo: I got this nickname first day of university
[17:17:00] jono: ok need to alias tveeprom
[17:17:00] Beirdo: rjune: I mean in general.
[17:17:00] jono: juski is such a dude if this works
[17:18:00] rjune: ah, yeah.
[17:18:00] rjune: already started stashing for next year.
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[17:18:00] Beirdo: just a trick to remember if you haven't found it yet...
[17:18:00] Beirdo: Boxing Day (Dec 26) is a bitching time to buy toys
[17:19:00] Beirdo: especially here in Canada :)
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[17:19:00] Beirdo: they tend to have sales to clear out the remaining Christmas stuff
[17:19:00] Beirdo: best shopping day of the year
[17:19:00] nuonguy: boxing day?>
[17:19:00] rjune: no extra money
[17:19:00] GreyFoxx: yeah, I usually go out and buy a ton on boxing day
[17:20:00] GreyFoxx: nuonguy: Dec 26th, day after XMas
[17:20:00] rjune: had to get a lawyer for Jen's(my wife) ex
[17:20:00] nuonguy: I know
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[17:20:00] ivor: grr. where can I get a 455khz IR chip. :(
[17:20:00] Beirdo: rjune: ah, no fun
[17:20:00] nuonguy: I used to live in Canada b4 I moved to california
[17:20:00] rjune: yeah, he was 3k behind in support
[17:21:00] Beirdo: so you were providing HIM a lawyer or chasing him with one?
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[17:21:00] Beirdo: Boxing Day rules
[17:21:00] rjune: he decided to pick a fight about the support, filed for reduction
[17:21:00] Beirdo: I'll be at home in bed all day
[17:22:00] ** ivor bemoans the poor quality of component suppliers in the uk. **
[17:22:00] rjune: so we got a lawyer. it's still in court
[17:22:00] Beirdo: ah. that sucks, rjune :(
[17:22:00] Beirdo: I wish you luck.
[17:22:00] Beirdo: and hope most of the money doesn't go to the liar
[17:22:00] Beirdo: errr lawyer
[17:22:00] GreyFoxx: how much does he have to pay each month ? (I know several people who pay support now and I'm always curious)
[17:22:00] ** nuonguy giggles **
[17:23:00] hn: ah nice, I just got rid of tv_grab_nl and linked it to tv_grab_nl_wolf
[17:23:00] Krazylegz: hn: that would work too.
[17:23:00] hn: cool
[17:23:00] rjune: Beirdo: only 900, the rest of it's pro bono
[17:24:00] Beirdo: whew
[17:24:00] Beirdo: lawyers can be such a money-pit
[17:24:00] Beirdo: useful to have on your side, but damn
[17:24:00] Krazylegz: hn: However, if you upgrade, you might have to do that change again.
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[17:26:00] quicksilver: grrrr
[17:26:00] quicksilver: anyone understand TVs and X modelines?
[17:27:00] ivor: quicksilver: just ask the question
[17:27:00] quicksilver: my card displays the text-mode boot-up sequence fine on the TV
[17:27:00] quicksilver: but I can't find a modeline for X that it will sync to
[17:27:00] quicksilver: as soon as xdm starts, it loses sync
[17:27:00] ivor: what video card
[17:27:00] quicksilver: ATI radeon 9250
[17:28:00] ivor: what does your xorg logfile say?
[17:29:00] hn: Krazylegz: hmm well it doesn't seem to be working well after all, I can search through some programs but when I try to show the entire program schedule I get "Segmentation fault"
[17:29:00] hn: in mythfrontend
[17:29:00] quicksilver: well, atm I'm using this modeline:Modeline "TV800x600" 34 800 840 960 1088 600 610 613 625 -HSync -VSync
[17:29:00] quicksilver: and with that, I get no erros in the log file
[17:29:00] quicksilver: but xdm fails to sync
[17:29:00] quicksilver: I have tried various interlaced modelines too...
[17:29:00] ivor: you're using svideo/tv out? or some sort of vga->scart convertor?
[17:30:00] quicksilver: but then my log says "(II) RADEON(0): Not using mode "PALi" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)"
[17:30:00] quicksilver: I'm using svideo
[17:30:00] ivor: ok so you're using the cards tv conversion chip in which case the modeline is pretty irrelevant. it just needs to be the right res
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[17:31:00] quicksilver: I had thought I would need the CVS drivers from the GATOS project to get TV out properly on this card.
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[17:31:00] quicksilver: But then, when the text-mode stuff looked fine, I thought it might work without that...
[17:31:00] ivor: and you need to find what options you need to provide the ati X driver to enable tv out
[17:31:00] ivor: the text mode is running from the BIOS's vesa mode
[17:31:00] quicksilver: it is sending *something* out of the s-video port
[17:31:00] quicksilver: because I do see the kind of thing you expect when a monitor is out of sync
[17:31:00] quicksilver: a very 'wavy' image with overlapped lines
[17:32:00] quicksilver: ivor: ok sounds like I'm on a hiding to nothing and I should get the gatos drivers.
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[17:33:00] ivor: no idea what the tv out support for the ati drivers is I'm afraid... although AFAIK the gatos code was now merged into xorg
[17:33:00] quicksilver: I read that the TV-input code was merged
[17:33:00] nuonguy: Will the line "mysql -u root -p < /usr/share/doc/mythtv-0.18.1/database/mc.sql" nuke my mysql database completely so I can start all over?
[17:33:00] quicksilver: but the TV-output code was still in a branch
[17:35:00] nuonguy: Or do I have to explicitly delete the database that I created already?
[17:35:00] quicksilver: ivor: thanks for the help
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[17:39:00] ** hn cries **
[17:41:00] nuonguy: I guess I should "drop database mythconverg;"
[17:41:00] ** nuonguy is a little nervouse **
[17:42:00] GreyFoxx: nuonguy: All mc.sql does is create a blank mythconverg database and setup the mythtv sql user to access it
[17:42:00] GreyFoxx: it doesn't remove anything or populate it
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[17:42:00] GreyFoxx: So yeah, you would have to remove it first :)
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[17:43:00] kormoc: mornin' GreyFoxx. Would you happen to know if perchance I had to enable a certain configure flag to have access to different timing methods (opengl vsync or others)?
[17:44:00] GreyFoxx: nope, just disable it and myth will fall back to others, likely RTC
[17:46:00] kormoc: GreyFoxx, hrm. And it would be located in the tv playback settings?
[17:47:00] GreyFoxx: The only option in the settings is to turn off OpenGL VSync, the rest happens automatically
[17:48:00] kormoc: GreyFoxx, hrm. I went though each and every page last night and I didn't see it.
[17:48:00] kormoc: it's not a svn feature is it?
[17:48:00] GreyFoxx: What version ?
[17:48:00] kormoc: .18.1
[17:48:00] GreyFoxx: Well the ogl vsync isn't, but the menu option to turn it off could very well be
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[17:49:00] nuonguy: GreyFoxx: thanks
[17:49:00] GreyFoxx: In SVN the menu option is on the same page as the deinterlace settings
[17:49:00] nuonguy: I shoulda been at work 10 minutes ago, so I'll have to do this tonight
[17:49:00] kormoc: yeah, it's not there for myself. I may very well have to go svn then. Thanks
[17:51:00] quicksilver: OK, so I'm going to have to compile my own X. Argh. Is it possible to compile Xorg to go into /usr/local?
[17:52:00] GreyFoxx: quicksilver: Sure if you edit the cf files
[17:52:00] GreyFoxx: I don't see why you would want to
[17:52:00] GreyFoxx: since a lot of stuff is gonna try to access the normal locations
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[17:53:00] quicksilver: GreyFoxx: I would want to, so as not to stomp all over my debian installed version
[17:53:00] GreyFoxx: just rename the old directory :)
[17:54:00] GreyFoxx: That's all I do when I install a new version
[17:54:00] GreyFoxx: or you can just install to a different name then symlink /usr/X11R6 to it
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[17:56:00] quicksilver: GreyFoxx: Any opinion on which is a good version, >= 6.8.99.1?
[17:58:00] GreyFoxx: *shrug* Most of my boxes run 6.8.1 and my most recently installed box from 2 weeks ago has 6.8.2. They work fine for me :)
[17:58:00] quicksilver: I need 6.8.99 for these patches :(
[17:58:00] quicksilver: or at least, I think I do.
[17:59:00] jono: can someone take a look at http://pastebin.ca/34355 – I have a Nova-T and PVR-350 card in the same box, and although the modules seem to be getting loaded, I don't get any video into my PVR card – does these bootup messages look OK?
[18:00:00] jono: anyone around?
[18:02:00] mocker: Is anyone else seeing www.directnic.com down?
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[18:11:00] praet: mocker seems fine to me
[18:11:00] kormoc: seems down to me
[18:14:00] mocker: grr.
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[18:14:00] mocker: Big registrars should not go down.
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[18:19:00] praet: directnic.com is down www.directnic.com is up
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[18:20:00] mocker: I have www.directnic.com down.
[18:21:00] praet: i probably an using a dns cache somewhere
[18:21:00] praet: http://204.251.10.43/
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[18:23:00] GreyFoxx: Both primary and secondary nameservers for the directnic.com domain are unreachable from here
[18:23:00] mocker: GreyFoxx: Yeah, that's what I'm seeing.
[18:24:00] mocker: Oh well. :)
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[18:24:00] Beirdo: directnic.com is a "big" registrar?
[18:24:00] GreyFoxx: I was thinking the same :) heh
[18:25:00] kormoc: it's bigger then the both of us!
[18:26:00] kormoc: beirdo kormoc
[18:26:00] kormoc: directnic.com
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[18:37:00] mocker: Beirdo: Big enough to have name servers in multiple locations I would think.
[18:37:00] mocker: ;)
[18:37:00] jono: does this look normal for nova-t and pvr-350 bootup messages? http://pastebin.ca/34355
[18:39:00] jono: it seems /dev/video0 is my dvb card
[18:40:00] jono: but there is nothing about /dev/video1 in the messages log file
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[18:45:00] jono: is there a way to get a specific card to use a specific module, so the dvb card uses tveeprom and pvr-350 card uses the tveeprom-ivtv module?
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[19:02:00] netrix: jono: set up a pvr350 this weekend and your boot messages for it look okay
[19:03:00] jono: netrix, its odd, but I think its kernel related
[19:05:00] netrix: jono: i don't know anything about the dvb card, but the pvr looks fine.
[19:05:00] netrix: jono: whats wrong with it?
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[19:08:00] immolo: heya, I'm looking for some silent mobo and cpus that will run mythtv well but won't break my wallet any ideas?
[19:09:00] netrix: lnmolo: fwiw, i have shuttle xpc systems and they are quietest i have ever used
[19:09:00] immolo: they break my wallet though :P
[19:10:00] netrix: immolo: yeah, probably not the most economical choice
[19:10:00] jono: netrix, I can;t get both cards to load due to conflicting tveeprom drivers
[19:11:00] dennis_p: Hi folks, it seems the driver for my 350 loaded: http://pastebin.ca/34365
[19:11:00] immolo: how loud are powerpc processors?
[19:11:00] netrix: immolo: silent, the fans might be loud tho. :-p
[19:11:00] immolo: lol
[19:11:00] immolo: I asked for that one :P
[19:12:00] netrix: jono: ah... dunno how to fix that. sry.
[19:12:00] immolo: I suppose my best bet is to find a quiet fan for my p3
[19:12:00] dennis_p: when i set in mythfrontend: dev/video1 dev/fb1 and dev/fb0 they output through nvidia fx5200
[19:12:00] quicksilver: immolo: powerpc chips do tend to be cooler
[19:13:00] quicksilver: immolo: but you can also get good quiet fans from, e.g. quietpc.com
[19:13:00] dennis_p: should not one of them output via 350 its scart cable?
[19:15:00] immolo: quicksilver, thanks for info I'll go check it out
[19:15:00] quicksilver: immolo: I have a zalman fan which is very quiet. Well, I can't hear it over the noise my case fans make :-S
[19:16:00] immolo: you need a case fan with those don't you?
[19:16:00] Filip^: is there a bugtracker for mythtv somewhere? It seems that mythtv.org/bugs doesn't work
[19:17:00] GreyFoxx: svn.mythtv.org/trac
[19:17:00] Filip^: thanks
[19:18:00] dennis_p: anybody have an idea what to set in mythfrontend to output via 350 based on my pastebin?
[19:19:00] dennis_p: Or must I configure a x.org file first?
[19:20:00] dennis_p: Or must I configure a xorg.conf file first? I meant
[19:20:00] kormoc: you need xorg working before getting myth working
[19:22:00] dennis_p: ok I thought it would output live tv on 350 while interface remained on nvidiafx5200
[19:22:00] dennis_p: mythtv tv and recording does work on my fx5200 of course
[19:23:00] kormoc: you can have the 350 output it all
[19:23:00] kormoc: which is how most people do it
[19:23:00] dennis_p: yes that is my objective as well
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[19:24:00] Filip^: I have a spare xorg.conf that used to output X to the PVR350. Not sure if any updates invalidated that config though
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[19:25:00] Filip^: I don't use it, forgot why, but something annoyed me
[19:25:00] dennis_p: I use Pal btw
[19:25:00] Filip^: yes, me too
[19:25:00] so_: simcop2387, worked out some tweaks last night with the encoder, smooth sailing since then :)
[19:25:00] Filip^: want it?
[19:25:00] so_: simcop2387, _EdmGuy_ is my alter-ego :)
[19:26:00] dennis_p: sure I can have a look
[19:26:00] Filip^: one sec
[19:27:00] Filip^: http://pastebin.ca/34371
[19:28:00] Filip^: ^ there it is!
[19:29:00] Filip^: Does anyone else's mythfrontend crash when you start watching a recording, but immediately after starting the recording, you press the escape key a couple of time?
[19:29:00] Filip^: Mine did in 0.18 and in 0.18.1
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[19:32:00] dennis_p: Thanks Filip^ looks very similar to the one I tried, I'll examine it. So that one gave you a login screen / X window environment like KDE on the tv?
[19:36:00] Filip^: Yes, I think the reason why I satopped using is whas that I couldn't play opengl'd games anymore
[19:36:00] Filip^: geez, sorry for all the typos
[19:40:00] dennis_p: I think I'll manage to live without Tuxracer :-)
[19:42:00] Filip^: Actually, I missed mario at that time. Never played games on my mythbox passed the first week though
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[19:51:00] ivor: any epia users about.. using current svn?
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[19:56:00] jono: anyone get an error about unexpected end of file when running mythfilldatabase
[19:58:00] ivor: jono: nope. what's your error?
[19:59:00] |rt|: jono: do you have space on your /var partition for the database file?
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[20:01:00] kormoc: unexpected end of file would more point to the input file, not the output to the database
[20:02:00] ivor: jono: what grabber are you using? tv_grab_rt?
[20:02:00] |rt|: kormoc: perhaps but error messages aren't always as specific as they should be
[20:02:00] kormoc: |rt|, in this case, it would, because if it was a database issue, it would throw a mysql error, and that's not a mysql error.
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[20:03:00] |rt|: kormoc: atleast one would hope :)
[20:03:00] |rt|: kormoc: but in this case i think you're write
[20:03:00] |rt|: right even
[20:06:00] will_: right ho jono!
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[20:15:00] _willcooke_: Jono, Got SVN installed on Ubuntu! :)
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[20:25:00] Modprobe: hi
[20:26:00] Modprobe: Newbie question about modprobe.conf file syntax
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[20:30:00] Modprobe: is this the correct syntax for adding ivtv info into modprobe.conf # ivtv modules setup
[20:30:00] Modprobe: alias char-major-81 videodev
[20:30:00] Modprobe: alias char-major-81–0 ivtv
[20:30:00] Modprobe: alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
[20:30:00] Modprobe: alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv
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[20:30:00] Modprobe: will try later... bye
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[20:31:00] donshyoku: i am having trouble getting a picture with my tuner card... all i get is static on channel 3
[20:31:00] donshyoku: btw, i am running a coax from the back of my dish reciever to the tuner... any ideas?
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[21:15:00] jono: hi all
[21:16:00] jono: whenI run mythfilldatabase, I get Error in 1:1: unexpected end of file
[21:16:00] jono: it does seem to update a lot of the channels though
[21:17:00] _willcooke_: alright jono!
[21:19:00] SqWaw: The music was new
[21:19:00] SqWaw: black polished chrome
[21:19:00] SqWaw: And came over the summer
[21:19:00] SqWaw: like liquid night.
[21:20:00] SqWaw: ooops ignore, wrong irc window
[21:20:00] ** laga blinks **
[21:20:00] Krazylegz: You wuz logd.
[21:22:00] praet: do i have to configure anything to use channels 100+?
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[21:29:00] jono: _willcooke_, hey!
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[21:30:00] _willcooke_: jono, I got the svn version compiled on breezy!
[21:31:00] jono: _willcooke_, awesome! any different the stable version?
[21:32:00] _willcooke_: Yeah, few new features, but my dvb card isn't quite working, I think it might be one of the fans in the case being too noisy, so I'll whip that out and try again. Once I've got it working, I'll let you know.
[21:32:00] _willcooke_: jono, I can give you a list of all the packages you need to install to get it to compile if you like
[21:32:00] jono: cool
[21:32:00] jono: _willcooke_, that would be cool, could you mail me it?
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[21:34:00] _willcooke_: jono, will do
[21:34:00] quicksilver: ok this is weird. I got TV output working via S-video but it is all greyscale...
[21:34:00] jono: anyone know about ivtv here?
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[21:38:00] jono: _willcooke_, I plugged my DVB card in, but I seem to be getting some conflicts with the tveeprom module
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[21:40:00] malaTG: quicksilver maybe it thinks that it is composite?
[21:40:00] _willcooke_: jono, oh yeah, you said about that the other day. Sorry dude, I don't got a clue!
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[21:42:00] ivor_: quicksilver: is that an svideo to scart cable?
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[21:42:00] jono: _willcooke_, just posting to the ivtv list
[21:43:00] quicksilver: ivor_: yes
[21:43:00] quicksilver: malaTG: ah I have to tell the video driver it shoudl be outputting to s-video?
[21:43:00] ** quicksilver checks the config options for the drvier **
[21:43:00] malaTG: jopp
[21:44:00] praet: quicksilver s-video is a split of color and brightness
[21:44:00] ivor_: some tv's need telling to use svideo over scart. but some sets don't support svideo over scart. :(
[21:44:00] praet: so the cable could be bunk
[21:45:00] ivor_: quicksilver: see if you have a config option in your tv to choose between composite or svideo on scart.
[21:45:00] quicksilver: ivor_: ow.. maybe I bought the wrong cable :(
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[21:45:00] ivor_: :)
[21:45:00] quicksilver: I'm quite clueful about computers but I know nothing about tvs...
[21:45:00] quicksilver: :(
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[21:46:00] quicksilver: mind you, I have a composite-to-scart converter already
[21:46:00] quicksilver: it came with my playstation
[21:46:00] quicksilver: can I just use any old RCA coax cable to carry a compositve signal?
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[21:46:00] so_: shielded ones work better in my experience
[21:46:00] ** quicksilver nods **
[21:46:00] so_: I was getting brown-out on the video
[21:46:00] D-side: boy, how this channel has grown.
[21:47:00] quicksilver: ok I'll pick up a cheap cable in dixons or maplins on the way to work tomorrow
[21:47:00] emes: i have a pvr-250 (records into mpeg2), and i transcode my recordings into mpeg4, but the quality of the mpeg4 is pretty bad, are there any setting that would make the mpeg4 of the same quality as the mpeg2, just a smaller file size?
[21:48:00] D-side: emes: you'll have to play with the transcoding settings to find the bitrate you're comfortable with.
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[21:49:00] emes: D-side: the problem is that it seems that the bitrate i set doesn't affect anything
[21:49:00] emes: i set it under transcoders "From MPEG2"
[21:50:00] D-side: not even filesize?
[21:51:00] emes: D-side: where's the setting for filesize?
[21:51:00] emes: all i see is bitrate, max quality, min quality
[21:51:00] jono: _willcooke_, did you get any unexpected end of file errors with mythfilldatabase?
[21:51:00] emes: and quality diff between frames
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[21:52:00] _willcooke_: jono, not yet, I'm still playing with it trying to get it to download off the air
[21:52:00] emes: D-side: i mean, right now i have my bitrate set to 4000 and 1-hour shows are coming out to a few hundred megs
[21:53:00] emes: D-side: i'm obviously missing something
[21:53:00] poop: Is there no way to specify the number of audio channels to capture?
[21:54:00] jono: http://ivtvdriver.org/pipermail/ivtv-users/20 . . . /000705.html
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[21:56:00] jam: oooh, lots of peeps
[21:56:00] quicksilver: hmm does the 'autoscan' stuff work for analog or is that only dvb?
[21:58:00] jono: _willcooke_, do you compile svn and build packages?
[21:59:00] quicksilver: or maybe I ask this question the other way round: how do I teach get myth to tune analog channels?
[22:00:00] _willcooke_: jono, Nah! I looked at building .debs but it's a bit involved, and I couldn't be arsed. I can zip up the compiled stuff and send it to you, it might work, but to be honest it's pretty easy once those packages are installed.
[22:01:00] emes: where are the settings for transcoding from MPEG2? apparently they aren't under transcoders -> from mpeg2
[22:01:00] davro: Im running a PVR500 have managed to get it setup, but No sound and im quite unsure what todo where to start ?
[22:01:00] jam: i suspect i may be better off looking for ivtv help, is there a chanel on freenode?
[22:01:00] netrix: davro: i can help... had the same problem.
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[22:01:00] netrix: davro: you neethe audio fireware off the cd.
[22:01:00] netrix: davro: sec.
[22:02:00] jono: brb dinner
[22:02:00] Zodiacal: can mythtv handle hdtv?
[22:02:00] netrix: davro: here you go: http://pastebin.ca/34391
[22:02:00] davro: netrix, cheers any help would be great.
[22:03:00] _willcooke_: Hmmm, is this a bug.. I create a video source (for EIT only), then I assign it to the card, then before I can scan for channels I have to go back to the main set up screen and then go back in to the assign the video sorce to the card again before I can scan?
[22:03:00] netrix: davro: thats from my list of notes from my setup.
[22:03:00] netrix: davro: you will find HcwMakoA.ROM and HcwFalcn.rom on the cd that came with your pvr500.
[22:04:00] netrix: davor: lemmie know how that works out for ya ... cheers. =)
[22:06:00] jam: i also have problems with pvr 500, have got it installed but can't tune so only get static, any pointers?
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[22:08:00] Zodiacal: how fast of a cpu would i need to encode hdtv?
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[22:08:00] jono: ~@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[22:08:00] Zodiacal: and watch another recording at the same time?
[22:08:00] Zodiacal: or are there cards that can do the encoding for me?
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[22:09:00] davro: I think i have done this step, maybe not quite right /lib/modules/ had no ivtv-fw-enc.bin so i could no move to ivtv-fw-enc.bin.old
[22:10:00] mchou: Zodiacal: HDTV doesn't need to be encoded. It is broadcast as a mpeg stream.
[22:10:00] Zodiacal: mchou so the mythtv can just save it?
[22:10:00] Zodiacal: as a data file?
[22:10:00] mchou: Zodiacal: yup.
[22:11:00] Zodiacal: coolness
[22:11:00] Zodiacal: via firewire?
[22:11:00] davro: i cannot seem to find the ivtvfwextract
[22:11:00] ** _willcooke_ is listening to LUGR! **
[22:11:00] Zodiacal: mchou
[22:12:00] mchou: Zodiacal
[22:12:00] Zodiacal: via firewire?
[22:12:00] jam: davro, i suspect there's a cd /lib/modules after line 5
[22:12:00] mchou: firewire works if your STB doesnt do 5C :)
[22:12:00] jam: but taht might not be the case, cosi'm here for help aswell
[22:13:00] Zodiacal: mchou 5C?
[22:13:00] mchou: Zodiacal: google
[22:14:00] Zodiacal: oic, copy protection
[22:14:00] Zodiacal: so mythtv knows to switch to firewire if the show is hdtv?
[22:14:00] Zodiacal: it knows automaticly?
[22:14:00] Zodiacal: or can SDTV get sent thru firewire too?
[22:14:00] Zodiacal: do i even need a capture card?
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[22:15:00] xris: Zodiacal: I believe it depends on the cable provider
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[22:16:00] ** Zodiacal is trying to deside if he should build a mythtv from his 1.7Ghz pc and then buy a new pc for his desktop. or should he just use the comcast hdtv dvr **
[22:17:00] Zodiacal: i have a tivo and love it.. but its not HD..
[22:17:00] Zodiacal: i tried adelphias DVR and i hated it
[22:17:00] Zodiacal: the quality was crap and the software didn't permantly store shows
[22:18:00] Zodiacal: i belive both adelphia and comcast both use moxi dvrs
[22:18:00] ** Zodiacal shutters **
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[22:21:00] Zodiacal: :(
[22:22:00] foobum: anyone else tried AC3/DTS pass through using the Internal video player?
[22:22:00] foobum: (in HEAD)
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[22:25:00] foobum: hmm... is it bad form to add comments to a closed ticket?
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[22:39:00] davro: Sorry should have mentioned that im using ivtv-0.4.1 /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware
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[22:42:00] davro: running ubuntu, and it confusingly has /lib/hotplug/firmware and /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware ?
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[22:44:00] jono: _willcooke_, so, lets talk SVN
[22:44:00] jono: how reliable is it?
[22:45:00] _willcooke_: jono, seems very good so far! (I think I've found a bit of a "feature", but I can work around it) BTW, That bloke from Buddy ping.... dull.
[22:46:00] jono: _willcooke_, hehe
[22:46:00] jono: _willcooke_, you tried the opengl stuff?
[22:47:00] _willcooke_: jono, got it compiled in I think, still trying to get the database filled at the moment, nearly there, then I can finally try the frontend!
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[22:49:00] jono: cool
[22:49:00] jono: I assume I can throw an SVN mythtv at my existing config and it will work
[22:50:00] _willcooke_: Erm...
[22:50:00] _willcooke_: I wouldnt risk it!
[22:50:00] jono: heh
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[23:05:00] davro: I have sound, whhooo ! /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware
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[23:10:00] D-side: back. not that a single person cares. :)
[23:16:00] ** _willcooke_ cares. He cares about everyone, just like Jesus. **
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[23:20:00] jam: is the fact that my pvr500 is a type 56 unusual?
[23:21:00] jono: _willcooke_, haha!
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[23:30:00] Kleptophobiac: poke
[23:30:00] ** kormoc blinks **
[23:30:00] _willcooke_: jono, all is not well in the svn world! Mythfilldatabase wont will the database, I think I need to edit all the channels, which is a p.i.t.a, still don't know if I can watch TV, installing the svn front end on another machine, we shall see what happens
[23:30:00] kormoc: that seems awefully rude... What did I do to get poked?!
[23:31:00] Kleptophobiac: you didn't say anything
[23:31:00] kormoc: was I suposto?
[23:31:00] Kleptophobiac: heh
[23:31:00] jono: _willcooke_, does seem a bit adventurous
[23:31:00] Kleptophobiac: just checking to see if there was anyone alive
[23:31:00] kormoc: well, given there's 158 people in the room, one would be suprised if there was
[23:32:00] _willcooke_: jono, yeah, I think the trick here is wait for someone who isn't a complete numpty to build a package when the new version gets released
[23:32:00] jono: heh
[23:34:00] Kleptophobiac: anyway, I did have an inquiry coming in here
[23:34:00] Kleptophobiac: I have a small niggle with mythweb
[23:34:00] Kleptophobiac: it generates png thumbnails
[23:34:00] Kleptophobiac: then doesn't display them
[23:34:00] Kleptophobiac: until I delete the (perfectly good) thumbnails and have it regenerate them
[23:35:00] Kleptophobiac: and then those thumbnails show up, but no subsequent ones do until I delete the png's (again)
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[23:38:00] praet: Kleptophobiac have you checked the logs for databse errors
[23:38:00] Kleptophobiac: there are none
[23:38:00] Kleptophobiac: and no errors in the apache logfiles
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[23:43:00] poop: Do any DVD players Just Work in linux?
[23:43:00] Kleptophobiac: what's that supposed to mean?
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[23:43:00] Kleptophobiac: xine and mplayer are both quite functional
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[23:43:00] poop: Install; use
[23:43:00] Kleptophobiac: that depends completely on the rest of your system and your definition of use
[23:44:00] poop: indeed
[23:44:00] poop: Let me ask #debian instead
[23:44:00] Kleptophobiac: heh
[23:44:00] poop: I'll remove some variables at least
[23:46:00] praet: is there a myth binding to jump back and forth between two channels?
[23:47:00] praet: as in "Previous channel". i am looking at myth history but its not quite right
[23:47:00] Kleptophobiac: I had such a binding
[23:47:00] Kleptophobiac: but I don't know what the key is off hand
[23:47:00] Kleptophobiac: I found I never used it
[23:47:00] Kleptophobiac: as I never use live tv
[23:48:00] praet: well ill pass that to the users then :)
[23:48:00] poop: Does ubuntu make media shit Just Work?
[23:49:00] praet: they wont be used to recording shows to watch later
[23:49:00] Kleptophobiac: there is no "just work"
[23:49:00] praet: lol
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[23:49:00] poop: Sure there is: turn mac on; get to work.
[23:49:00] Kleptophobiac: heh
[23:50:00] Kleptophobiac: there's "turn mac on, then stare while it is incapable of doing anything"
[23:50:00] Kleptophobiac: "but enjoy the pretty GUI"
[23:50:00] Kleptophobiac: anyway
[23:50:00] Kleptophobiac: I have some chemistry work to do
[23:50:00] Kleptophobiac: later
[23:50:00] ** Kleptophobiac loves hardware stores **
[23:50:00] ** poop watches mplayer fuck up **
[23:51:00] ** poop reels from the shock **
[23:51:00] poop: oh, it's libdvdread's fault!
[23:51:00] poop: I'm still not watching DVDs, however
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[23:56:00] praet: heh
[23:56:00] praet: you try it with xine?
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