Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Saturday, December 17th, 2005, 00:00 UTC

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Ediehow:

standard

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Ediehow:

720x

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Ediehow:

i think

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GreyFoxx:

is this a recent problem or has it always done this ?

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Ediehow:

i heard it may be either due to my video card, a radeon 9600se or my via chipset

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GreyFoxx:

actually I was thinking it might be the OpenGL problem with the most recent Nvidia video drivers, but if you are using an ATI card it can't be that

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MrSpiffy:

similar problem – stuttering audio using via xvmc and deinterlacing on

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Ediehow:

i am using gpl radeon drivers since ati's drivers don't support xinerama

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Ediehow:

i just enabled real time priority

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Ediehow:

no change

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Ediehow:

i started just moving xchat's window around

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Ediehow:

and it started the stuttering

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GreyFoxx:

hrm, but do the open ati drivers allow for xv ?

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GreyFoxx:

if not then you would be using much more cpu than needed for displaying video

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Ediehow:

how can i check if xv is being used?

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GreyFoxx:

open an xterm and type xvinfo

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GreyFoxx:

see if it finds any xv screens/surfaces

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Ediehow:

xvinfo

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Ediehow:

X-Video Extension version 2.2

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Ediehow:

screen #0

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Ediehow:

Adaptor #0: "ATI Radeon Video Overlay"

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Ediehow:

number of ports: 1

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Ediehow:

port base: 61

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Ediehow:

operations supported: PutImage

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Ediehow:

supported visuals:

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Ediehow:

etcetcetc

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GreyFoxx:

and when you run mythfrontend what sort of output does it give? Anything a bout the system being to sllow or it being unable to use xv ?

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Ediehow:

mythfrontend or mythtv?

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GreyFoxx:

mythfrontend is the menu frontend, when you navigate to a recording and start playing it would say something if it can't use xv or if the playback is too slow

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Ediehow:

http://pastebin.com/467278

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Ediehow:

oh tell it to start playback

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Ediehow:

holdon

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Ediehow:

http://pastebin.com/467279

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GreyFoxx:

ok

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GreyFoxx:

dma enabled on your drive ?

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xris:

Beirdo: how goes your ad revenue lately?

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Ediehow:

http://pastebin.com/467281

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xris:

wow, an ad link from mythtv.beirdo.ca to hackmyth.com.. looks like someone is actually trying to make money from mythtv.

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GreyFoxx:

hmmm looks fine.

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GreyFoxx:

Edi

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Ediehow:

:O

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GreyFoxx:

Ediehow: out of curiousity have you tried it with the ati driver?

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Ediehow:

it's been a little while, but i don't remember an improvement, plus ati's driver does not support xinerama:(

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GreyFoxx:

I'm talking about trying it just for testing :)

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GreyFoxx:

see if the problem goes away

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Ediehow:

ok, brb

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topher:

how do i get a zap2it login?

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Ediehow:

oh btw

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GreyFoxx:

xris: cool, goot luck to them

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Ediehow:

is it possible it's something to do with any of my xorg.conf settings GreyFoxx ?

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GreyFoxx:

Ediehow: it could, sure

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GreyFoxx:

topher follow the docs on mythtv.org

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Ediehow:

http://pastebin.com/467284

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topher:

GreyFoxx: i am. it just says to "enter my xmltv login"

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topher:

GreyFoxx: on http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html

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GreyFoxx:

you stick parts

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GreyFoxx:

skipped parts

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topher:

... probably. :)

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topher:

ok, thanks GreyFoxx

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GreyFoxx:

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3

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Ediehow:

GreyFoxx: did u get that link?

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topher:

thanks GreyFoxx, i appreciate it

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GreyFoxx:

I don't use the ati drivers so I don't know what options would affect them

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Ediehow:

well, these are for gpl drivers

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GreyFoxx:

Especially if it's just a buggy version of a driver

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TylerGalus:

well after a slight snag (locked x on first run of mythtv-setup) i've gotten though the database fill

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Ediehow:

ok, i am using ati driver now

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Ediehow:

xvinfo

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Ediehow:

X-Video Extension version 2.2

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Ediehow:

screen #0

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Ediehow:

no adaptors present

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Ediehow:

?

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Ediehow:

GreyFoxx: what do you make of that?

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Ediehow:

yeah, mythtv now says xv is not working

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Ediehow:

brb

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rjune:

what does mtd use to convert dvds?

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rjune:

better question is does it write the command to a log?

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topher:

does zap2it take a while before a lineup will appear? i made a linup at labs.zap2it.com but mythtv-setup doesnt put any line ups in the drop down bar

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xris:

topher: it's usually instant

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topher:

hrm. know of any reason why the lineups wouldnt appear? i created a lineup at labs.zap2it.com and it shows the lineup when i log in, just, mythtv-setup doesnt seem to show it

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tanq:

topher: did you add zaptoit as a videosource to your card and did you run mythfilldatabase?

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topher:

tanq: under video sources i made one called "cable", selected xmltv listings grabber to be "north america (datadirect)", entered my labs.zap2it.com user/pass and clicked retrieve line ups and it doesnt populate the "data direct lineups" drop down

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tanq:

1 sec i need to open it to see

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topher:

ok, thanks tanq

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TylerGalus:

ok have a slight problem.. when i try and watch tv from the front end i get the following errors non stop

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TylerGalus:

19:34:33.020 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:33.244 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().

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TylerGalus:

Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/var/video//ringbuf1.nuv

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:33.284 LiveTV not successfully started

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:33.316 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:33.324 Changing from None to None

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:33.356 Using protocol version 15

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:33.532 Using protocol version 15

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:33.708 Using protocol version 15

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tanq:

topher: did you set up your lineup on zap2it

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:33.884 Using protocol version 15

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tanq:

PASTEBIN

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:34.060 Using protocol version 15

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:34.236 Using protocol version 15

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:34.412 Using protocol version 15

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:34.588 Using protocol version 15

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:34.764 Using protocol version 15

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topher:

tanq: lol

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:34.940 Using protocol version 15

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:35.116 Using protocol version 15

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:35.292 Using protocol version 15

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:35.364 Using protocol version 15

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topher:

tanq: it's clearly too late

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:35.728 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().

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TylerGalus:

loki@brujah ~ $ mythfrontend

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:39.391 New DB connection, total: 1

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TylerGalus:

Total desktop width=1280, height=1024, numscreens=1

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:39.402 Running in a window

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:39.402 Using screen 0, 1280x1002 at 0,22

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TylerGalus:

2005-12–16 19:34:39.407 mythfrontend version: 0.18.1.20050510–1 www.mythtv.org

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tanq:

topher so?

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tanq:

when you logged into zap2it did you setup a lineup?

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topher:

tanq: yes. and it appears when i relogin to zap2it.com

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tanq:

are you sure you're retrieving lineups?

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tanq:

don't you have to use the right arrow or something like that to select

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topher:

tanq: well, i click the button and a dialog pops up for a moment or so but it goes away quickly and the drop down isnt populated

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tanq:

are you sure your username/passowrd are right in the mythsetup dialog boxes

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topher:

tanq: yes. when theyre wrong the dialog doesnt appear at all

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tanq:

hrmm..

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topher:

ill try changing my password

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topher:

something simple maybe

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tanq:

yeah ... bbiab

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topher:

no, that doesnt seem to have helped

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topher:

hrm

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topher:

maybe zap2it.com just takes a while now or something, has anybody made a new account recently?

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Ediehow:

hey uh

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Ediehow:

GreyFoxx,

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Ediehow:

i am in xp now, and apparently i do not have the problem

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Ediehow:

so it does seem to be specific to linux

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topher:

damn zap2it

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TylerGalus:

anyone have any ideas on my above problem?

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praet:

topher when yuo log in to zap2it.com make sure you hit refresh

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praet:

the system they use will normally throw a cached page

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praet:

even after logout/login

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tanq:

praet: do you use irexec/irxevent?

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TylerGalus:

ok where does this ringbuf1.nuv file come from and why can't myth generate it? i checked permissions on the /mnt/tv folder and it's got 0777

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iltechy:

hi all does anyone have the silverstone vfd automatically starting at bootup? if i use the scripts provided by the lcdproc folks it just hangs my system on boot

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topher:

hey, i got mythtv starting up and viewing tv but there's no sound. my sound is working when i use other apps. this is a hauppage pvr-500

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topher:

ive already tried both on and off for ac3 passthrough

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tanq:

man..

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tanq:

if I can get this thing stable i'm going to buy a component box and put my computer hardware in it

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topher:

damn man. sound and zap2it now

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tanq:

heh sounds like me..

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tanq:

it was problem after problem.

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topher:

lol

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topher:

i cant wait, haha

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tanq:

surely the problem can be solved without doing this but this might save you time..

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tanq:

try removing myth and then recompiling it

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** tanq shrugs **

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topher:

no, i think im pretty close to do that, lol

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tanq:

couldn't hurt right...?

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tanq:

i'm recompiling myth right now anyway

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tanq:

so i have built in lirc

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topher:

lol

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topher:

yea, im gonna show this thing off in 20 mins or so, sound or no sound, so it would hurt if i cant at least show the menu and video and pausing and all that, hehe

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tanq:

i need to find my exact settings for xorg for my television

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tanq:

i have no idea what my refresh rate is nor the resolution to use..

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tanq:

but it seems that my tv stretches the image anyway

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tanq:

no matter what resolution i set it stretches to fill the screen

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{alejandro}:

hello world

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{alejandro}:

I am having a few compile issues with 0.18.2 on an amd64 ubuntu box

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{alejandro}:

hanging up on make install

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{alejandro}:

oy

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Esuirin:

GreyFoxx, you there?

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poonj:

hey guys...I'm having some trouble with myth

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poonj:

I'm getting the error no settings found for this machine's backendserverip. Please run setup on this machine and modify the first page of the general setings

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poonj:

I did do that....is it some type of connectivity problem with the database?

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heinola:

any alive

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pmowry:

Just got here myself

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poonj:

hey guys

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poonj:

anyone here know what to do if I'm getting

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poonj:

No setting found for this machine's backendserverip. Please run setup on this machine and modify the first page of the general setings

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pmowry:

This a new install or did it break?

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poonj:

new install

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poonj:

the problem is

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poonj:

I have the setting there!

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pmowry:

mysql setup for remote connections?

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poonj:

not sure..

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poonj:

I granted access..

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heinola:

is this a user help channel ? or am i in the wronge chan :(

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pmowry:

that's what I was referring to. #mythtv-users is user help, #mythtv is developers (dont ask questions there).

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heinola:

ok ty :)

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poonj:

I have no idea

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poonj:

its setup!

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pmowry:

my frontend,backend are the same machine so localhost is what I use for backend serverip, trying to use the physical IP would not work. I've been to lazy to getmy other frontends up again.

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poonj:

same here

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poonj:

both the frontend and backend are on the same machine

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heinola:

brb i have problems stating mysql

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poonj:

I'm going to reinstlal

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poonj:

this is ridiculous

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poonj:

it works on one machine, but not the other

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heinola:

hello any have probs with slack 10.2 and setting up mysql for mythtv ?

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heinola:

bash-3.00# su – mysql

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heinola:

/dev/pts/0: Operation not permitted

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GreyFoxx:

I see that error but it still switches me to the user

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lightx:

mysql -u root

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lightx:

might have a password set

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lightx:

check your config

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heinola:

ok is that config in var or etc ?

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lightx:

depends of your distribution

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lightx:

as root just type mysql -u root

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lightx:

oh you have slack

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lightx:

well, that easy

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lightx:

make sure you ran the install mysql script

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lightx:

mysql_install or something like that

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heinola:

from /usr/bin ?

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lightx:

and make sure /var/mysql/* is own by mysql.mysql

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lightx:

from wherever

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heinola:

mysql_install_db

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lightx:

yep

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heinola:

i get error's

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heinola:

one sec

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lightx:

lie

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lightx:

like

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heinola:

051216 22:17:09 [ERROR] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13)

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heinola:

ERROR: 1005 Can't create table 'db' (errno: 13)

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lightx:

check your permissions

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heinola:

for mysql_install_db ?

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lightx:

nah, in /var/mysql

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heinola:

ok i dont have a /var/mysql checking something on sec

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heinola:

have a /var/lib/mysql and a /var/run/mysql

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heinola:

both mysql.mysql

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heinola:

brb in a min checking something again

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heinola:

ok i might have it

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heinola:

ok now i have to set up mythtv ty all

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lightx:

what was the problem?

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heinola:

permit to /var/lib/mysql/mysql

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heinola:

i swear i chmod -R that dir before

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heinola:

got other issues but i should get it cant find mc.sql lol

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poonj:

hey greyfoxx

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poonj:

yout here?

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poonj:

No setting found for this machine's backendserverip. Please run setup on this machine and modify the first page of the general setings

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poonj:

I have something set though..

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poonj:

you have any idea what this could be?

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poop:

Sometimes I wish alsa had arms.

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poonj:

this is frustrating

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Bonkers:

so are backends with dynamic IPs not possible with myth? hostname lookups don't seem to work when connecting from frontend->backend

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Ediehow:

GreyFoxx: ok, i have ati driver in use now

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Ryushin:

Hello all. I just upgraded to the latest SVN after the last 45 days, and mythweb is behaving odd.

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Ryushin:

It's display the entire conf.php file at the top of the main screen. Other than that, everything appears to work fine.

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Juski:

mornin'

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Ediehow:

hi

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T`:

anyone able ot use mythfilldatabase?

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T`:

i get 500 errors

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nuonguy:

I've suer mythfilldatabase

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nuonguy:

rather, I've used it

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nuonguy:

I think many of us have

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chrobi:

i used it about 2hrs ago

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chrobi:

but since modprobe is misdetecting my bt878 card

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chrobi:

its not working right

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chrobi:

on my system rather

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chrobi:

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chrobi:

still detects it as a Philips PAL_I

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nuonguy:

your card is listed in README.bttv?

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chrobi:

yes

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nuonguy:

by exact model, I mean?

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chrobi:

#58

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chrobi:

tuner 8

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nuonguy:

/var/log/messages say anything interesting when you modprobe it?

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nuonguy:

out of curiousity, what distro/kernel do you run?

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chrobi:

2.6.14

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chrobi:

-1

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chrobi:

fedora 4

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nuonguy:

same here

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chrobi:

all of the other apps

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chrobi:

that allow for tv viewing

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chrobi:

shows video, but one channel off

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chrobi:

and i been changin the modules.conf like crazy

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nuonguy:

put it on pastebin, let's have a looksee

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chrobi:

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chrobi:

just a second...rebooting

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nuonguy:

While we're waiting...

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nuonguy:

I've got this bizarro issue I can't figure out

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nuonguy:

I have two tuners

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nuonguy:

they work well with other apps

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nuonguy:

but with mythtv, the first tuner shows only black

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nuonguy:

it seems to acknowledge channel changes, judging by the info printed when I change channels

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nuonguy:

but screen shows only black

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nuonguy:

been through mythtvsetup a coupla time looking to see if I did anything dumm

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chrobi:

http://pastebin.com/467595

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nuonguy:

chrobi: why do you have the i2c stuff in there?

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nuonguy:

I don't think its needed...

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chrobi:

that is what the detect script added

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nuonguy:

what detect script? Where did you get it? Gotta link?

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nuonguy:

I think that stuff is bogus

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chrobi:

http://www.mind.lu/~yg/ftvco/

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nuonguy:

due

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chrobi:

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nuonguy:

that guy is still talking 2.4 kernels

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nuonguy:

that stuff is way, way old

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nuonguy:

And, I don't think you need that line about char-major-81 videodev either

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chrobi:

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chrobi:

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chrobi:

please forgive the noobie

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nuonguy:

Now, I'm a complete lamer and and a n00b, but I might try this thing first:

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Ediehow:

hi

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nuonguy:

remove /etc/modprobe.conf and also /etc/sysconfig/hwconf

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nuonguy:

ie move them to /tmp or something

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nuonguy:

then reboot

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nuonguy:

let anaconda write you a clean modprobe file

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nuonguy:

Only then, if it doesn't work, hand edit it

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Ediehow:

when i multitask, playback is choppy

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Ediehow:

in myth

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nuonguy:

Where did you get your driver from anyway?

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chrobi:

yum??

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chrobi:

its showing to be

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chrobi:

0.9.16

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chrobi:

which is the newest right?

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nuonguy:

type in something like rpm -q --whatprovides /lib/modules/2.6.14.whaterver/dirvers/video/bttsomething.ko

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nuonguy:

oh

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nuonguy:

yum info drivername

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nuonguy:

actually, I'm hyper

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nuonguy:

I need to slow down

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chrobi:

no worries

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nuonguy:

You yum installled it from atrpms or whatever, fine

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chrobi:

this is my first attempt to get mythtv running

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chrobi:

yeah yum...i used the fedora myth howto

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chrobi:

to get to this point

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nuonguy:

I would yum remove the driver, remove /etc/modprobe.conf, /etc/sysconfig/hwconf, reboot so you get a nice clean modprobe.conf and then install your driver

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nuonguy:

It ought to do you modprobe properly

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nuonguy:

I looked at that, but it seems outta date too

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nuonguy:

really

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nuonguy:

You're talking about http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php, right?

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chrobi:

yes

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nuonguy:

yeah, outta date

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nuonguy:

His last update was august

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chrobi:

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chrobi:

cant win for losing on this

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nuonguy:

and even the stuff before august doesn't apply to 2.6.14

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nuonguy:

I think he was assumiong to 2.6.9 or something

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nuonguy:

And the atrpms stuff has matured significantly

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nuonguy:

dude, no big deal

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nuonguy:

That detect script was your only mistake

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nuonguy:

That script is about 2.4 kernels

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nuonguy:

That's like, so old,

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chrobi:

yeah

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chrobi:

hehe

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nuonguy:

I like wilson's howto, but he shoulda said what kernel revisions he was working with

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nuonguy:

did you follow his sound stuff too?

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nuonguy:

I didn't have to do anyting like that to get sound to work

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chrobi:

yeah

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chrobi:

first time

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chrobi:

blew my install up

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nuonguy:

not surprised

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chrobi:

second time i skipped it totally

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chrobi:

ok on reboot after removing the modprobe.conf and hwconf

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nuonguy:

did you get a nice clean modprobe.conf?

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chrobi:

still waiting/

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chrobi:

just finnished

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nuonguy:

did you yum remove that driver?

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chrobi:

damnit

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nuonguy:

no prob

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nuonguy:

not critical

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nuonguy:

just yum remove it and then yum install it so you can let it add to modprobe.conf

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chrobi:

dude i cant remover the bttv driver

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chrobi:

the kernel provides it

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nuonguy:

that's sweet

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chrobi:

yeah

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nuonguy:

can you run tvtime with it?

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chrobi:

it has the same problem

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chrobi:

channel off

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nuonguy:

can you look in /var/log/messages and see if it registers /dev/video0 or something?

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nuonguy:

oh

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nuonguy:

so you do see something?

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chrobi:

yeah

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nuonguy:

Channels are one off?

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nuonguy:

hm

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chrobi:

yeah

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** nuonguy taps fingers pensively... **

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chrobi:

that is becuase fc4 is detecting a PAL tuner

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nuonguy:

ah

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nuonguy:

what do you get when you say modinfo driver?

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nuonguy:

It should give you a way to choose PAL/SECAM/NTSC/...

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chrobi:

at what prompt?

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chrobi:

$ or #

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nuonguy:

go to the shell

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nuonguy:

whatever

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nuonguy:

don't need to be root for that

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chrobi:

gives me the parmtype

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nuonguy:

so, as root, rmmod your driver

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nuonguy:

then, modprobe it with tunertype=NTSC or whatever modprobe tells you

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chrobi:

damnit

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chrobi:

it worked

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nuonguy:

you rawk!

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chrobi:

AHHH

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chrobi:

:D

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chrobi:

now its locking

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nuonguy:

what?

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nuonguy:

locking up?

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chrobi:

but i am going to try another card number

[09:02:00]

chrobi:

yeah video and audio locking

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nuonguy:

just for fun, paste your modprobe.conf to pastebin

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nuonguy:

should say something in /var/log/messages

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chrobi:

pastebin.com/467608

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nuonguy:

nothing usefule in var/log/...

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nuonguy:

?

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nuonguy:

I'm out of ideas then

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nuonguy:

maybe just add options drivername tunertype=whatever to your /etc/modprobe.conf, reboot, see what happens?

[09:06:00]

nuonguy:

What kind of motherboard do you have?

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nuonguy:

Anyone know whether the trunk at svn.mythtv.org/svn builds and runs today?

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chrobi:

hrmm

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chrobi:

i dont know

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chrobi:

set the right card number all is goo

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chrobi:

thank you nuonguy

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nuonguy:

my pleasure

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chrobi:

in canada?

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nuonguy:

me?

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chrobi:

ye

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nuonguy:

I'm from Canada

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nuonguy:

but I live in california now

[09:11:00]

nuonguy:

I'm a silicon valley geek

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chrobi:

kille

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nuonguy:

meh

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chrobi:

i am in elpaso texas

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chrobi:

just an M$ geek

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nuonguy:

I have relatives down there that I haven't seen in a coon's age

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chrobi:

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chrobi:

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nuonguy:

yeah

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nuonguy:

I hear that

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nuonguy:

I worked on windows for a quite some time

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nuonguy:

hated most of it, too

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nuonguy:

didn't mind working under DOS quite so much

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chrobi:

so i am slowly converting everything i can to some form of *nix

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chrobi:

dos kewl win98 ok....everything else

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chrobi:

is just too much protecting you from your self

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nuonguy:

tried a mac lately?

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chrobi:

no

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nuonguy:

are you KDE or Gnome?

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chrobi:

last time i touched a mack

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chrobi:

KDE

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nuonguy:

yeah

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nuonguy:

I love KDE

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nuonguy:

KDE is the shiznit!

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** nuonguy waits for mythtv to build... **

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chrobi:

yeah eaisier to get around

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chrobi:

your compiling?

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nuonguy:

yeah

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** chrobi is just a rookie and took the yum way out **

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nuonguy:

0-81-fixes exhibits the same problem

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chrobi:

:)

[09:15:00]

nuonguy:

yeah, and I can't figure out why it only works with one tuner...

[09:15:00]

nuonguy:

won't work with two

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chrobi:

you cofig the right device in the setup?

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nuonguy:

I think so

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nuonguy:

/dev/video0 was my pvr150

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chrobi:

can you get each of them to work seperatly in?

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nuonguy:

works ok with mplayer

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nuonguy:

/dev/video1 is my avertv card

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nuonguy:

works ok with tvtime

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nuonguy:

With that setup, I can record a working show if I pretend to watch a tv channel

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chrobi:

can you get myth to see either one of them?

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nuonguy:

if I hook it up so that /dev/video0 is the avertv card, then I can't use that

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nuonguy:

and now /dev/video1 seems to record ok

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nuonguy:

I don't get it at all

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chrobi:

record ok, but

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chrobi:

no video

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nuonguy:

I wish some of the devs were on so I can bug them about ti

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nuonguy:

tuner1 shows only blank screen, tuner2 records tv

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nuonguy:

regardless of how I load them

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chrobi:

umm

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chrobi:

damn

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chrobi:

i have not a clue how to help you

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nuonguy:

individually, with mplayer and tvtime, I can tune them and watch tv

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nuonguy:

yea, but sometims explicitly describng the problem to someone else helps me come up with a way to debug it or helps me think of a new approach to a problem

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nuonguy:

my gf is pretty good with that

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nuonguy:

she asks naive and obvious questions and when I anwer them, sometimes I realise something that I hadn't actuallly checked or some assumtion I'd made

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nuonguy:

but she's asleep

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chrobi:

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chrobi:

yeah my wife just went tobed and was like you not going to be up all night..

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chrobi:

i just smiled

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nuonguy:

watching a build go by is a bit like watching a pot cook

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nuonguy:

You just can't speed it up by staring at it

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nuonguy:

so, I come here to pass the time...

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chrobi:

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chrobi:

now i killed my audio

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chrobi:

joy

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chrobi:

ol

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nuonguy:

what happened?

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chrobi:

i dont know it says it cant open /dev/d

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Ediehow:

hi

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chrobi:

../dev/dsp

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nuonguy:

oh, since you're running, KDE, maybe you'll have to open the KDE control panel and then disable the sound system

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chrobi:

oh yea

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nuonguy:

see, in the past it least, I had conflicts with that

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nuonguy:

like new email beeps and stuff would mess up my sound

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nuonguy:

or my gaim beeps would hold on to /dev/dsp and I wouldn't get an other audio

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chrobi:

hrmm

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nuonguy:

that part is really lame about fedora/linux

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chrobi:

sound system is disable

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nuonguy:

alsa/oss/arts/toocomplicated for my pea brain

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chrobi:

[09:26:00]

** nuonguy is a moron **

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** chrobi is right there with you **

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nuonguy:

I have to restart my build with --prefix=/home/mythtvuser/myth so that I don't clobber my atrpms installation

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Ediehow:

when i multitask while watching mythtv video, it gets choppy and stutters

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Ediehow:

why?

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nuonguy:

slow machine?

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chrobi:

to large of video?

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chrobi:

not enough Video ram

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** nuonguy starts to fade... **

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nuonguy:

heading off to bed...

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chrobi:

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nuonguy:

your welcome

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chrobi:

hope to see ya around

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nuonguy:

here or on #fedora...

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xris:

bye bye old mythweb...

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xris:

w00t. and a round-number commit number, too

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laga:

bye-bye old mythweb?

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** laga does an svn up **

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ille:

looking forward to test it

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Ediehow:

hi beata---

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Ediehow:

Beirdo:

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otwin:

hi there

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otwin:

can anybody please tell me version of ffmpeg that works fine with nuvexport?

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otwin:

mine doesn't like the -hq option

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Juski:

oo auto re-login. spiffy

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_willcooke_:

Juski! Just the man..... are you still about?

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Juski:

_willcooke_: errr.. kind of

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Juski:

my braincell is still on its back after last night

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_willcooke_:

Juski, s-video out... on my nvidia card there are 7 pins, but most cables I can find for that to scart are 4 pins, whats the deal there then?

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_willcooke_:

Juski, Good work fella!

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Juski:

_willcooke_: that's manufacturers doing propriatary stuff for you :-/

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_willcooke_:

Boo!

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Juski:

I've seen some 7 pin connectors that you can just shove an svid plug into though

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_willcooke_:

I've found one on e-bay for 3 quid odd, so I'll give it a whirl I guess.

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Juski:

what make is it? surely not a 'pure' nvidia card I bet

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_willcooke_:

Juski, nah!! Gainward or something

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_willcooke_:

it was the cheapest I could get!

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_willcooke_:

Yes, I know, I know.. Dont buy cheap shit

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Juski:

nah.. buy cheap shit.. it's Christmas

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Juski:

just don't expect too much of it ;)

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_willcooke_:

:)

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Juski:

back in 30 mins or so.. some erm (ahem) livetv needs my attention.. I really have to set my myth up so I can record Sly TV

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Juski:

sorry $ky TV

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_willcooke_:

:)

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beavis:

@Debian users: Christian Marillat from the inoficiall debian repository just emailed me, mythtv should be soon in his repository

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_willcooke_:

Good news beavis, which version?

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beavis:

of course the released one

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beavis:

he is going to maintain the package in the future, so after 0.19 will be released there'll be debian packages made by him

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_willcooke_:

That's very nice of him!

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ole_schoo:

ne1 care to field a ? on rebuilding an FC4 kernel?

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ol_schoola:

i fouled up and need to add both xfs and jfs support

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ol_schoola:

and want to make sure my kmdls (lirc, nvidia, alsa, lirc) from axel's repo) stay intact

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danieldk:

anybody have experience in building minimyth from GAR?

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ol_schoola:

whooops, apologies to the channel, should have asked this #fedora

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Juski:

pleh

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_willcooke_:

Buggeration.

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_willcooke_:

It would seem that the nova-t and my new motherboard simply don't work together.

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Juski:

?

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danieldk:

Juski: have you tried your vga to scart cable yet?

[16:29:00]

Juski:

danieldk: no not yet

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Juski:

hands too shaky for soldering today ;)

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danieldk:

Juski: you'll be suprised how well it look compared to svideo :-)

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Juski:

oh I know

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danieldk:

:-) still drunk?

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Juski:

nah not now.. just feeling the effects

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Juski:

will have some more to drink tonight.. that'll stem it off til tomorrow

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laga:

right! :)

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danieldk:

yeah

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** laga hast just taken a 2 hour nap to be prepared for the excess ;) **

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_willcooke_:

danieldk, how easy is it to tell your video card to output the correct thingy to make it work on the TV? (Does it do widescreen ok?)

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Juski:

this is the 2nd weekend in a row when I've done squat on my theme

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Juski:

might use up my last free leave day this year & squish it

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laga:

hehe ;)

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Juski:

_willcooke_: minimyth has a great mode built in.. 720x576noscale.. with overscan it fits perfectly

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danieldk:

_willcooke_: it'll do whatever you want i to – you'll have complete control over timings

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Juski:

danieldk: assuming the video driver allows it. not all do

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danieldk:

juski: yes!

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_willcooke_:

Sounds like the way to go then.

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_willcooke_:

AHAHAHA!!! I have a cunning plan...

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Juski:

where've I heard that before, Baldrick?

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danieldk:

_willcooke_: just be ready to do some tinkering!

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_willcooke_:

I'll take the AverMedia out of the computer in the loft and put it in my new box, and see if that works. At the moment the Nova T just keeps telling me:

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_willcooke_:

cx22702_set_tps: Autodetecting

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_willcooke_:

and never actually works

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** Juski wonders how jono is getting on with his nova-t and pvr350 working together **

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_willcooke_:

Maybe the Aver will work

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_willcooke_:

Juski, no joy I think, check his blog

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_willcooke_:

BTW – If any one is thinking of buying a new motherboard, don't buy an ASUS k8u-x

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danieldk:

after 28 hours of compiling, im a little miffed that i cant get past: error: mm_HOME must be set to /data/GAR/gar-minimyth.. <- wich it is BTW

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Juski:

I can see that sucking, big-style

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danieldk:

yeah – i'm gonna post it on linpvr.. just thought i'd ask here first

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Juski:

hmmm... just been informed there's a bloody good reason to get tanked tonight.. it's the final of both 'x-factor' and 'strictly cum dancing'

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_willcooke_:

ARGH!

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bobc:

running mythfrontend svn in gdb I got this when exiting livetv:

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bobc:

2005-12–17 09:43:42.425 TV: Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None

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bobc:

2005-12–17 09:43:42.428 TV: Attempting to change from None to None

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bobc:

[Thread -1316533328 (LWP 5552) exited]

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bobc:

ptrace: No such process.

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bobc:

thread_db_get_info: cannot get thread info: generic error

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bobc:

then it exits. any idea why?

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poop:

Anyone use jack?

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psofa:

how do i run xine with xvmc output?

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poop:

I don't think it does xvmc.

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poop:

-V, --video-driver <drv> Select video driver by id. Available drivers: dxr3 aadxr3 xv opengl aa caca xshm none sdl vidix vidixfb fb

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psofa:

does mplayer do xvmc?

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laga:

yep

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laga:

but xine should support it as well...

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psofa:

i just want to test it

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psofa:

but cant find anything about xvmc on both players' sites

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jgiceman:

does anyone know the chipset on an avertv pvr 150?

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Weezey:

my program_listing page is blank.

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Weezey:

wait, no, I fixed it.

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nuonguy:

while running ./configure in mythtv, it says that DVD playback is not enabled

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nuonguy:

anyone know what I'm missing?

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laga:

libdvdnav i think

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laga:

no, sorry

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laga:

that's not the right one

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laga:

check ./configure --help it's mentioned there i think

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_willcooke_:

is it libcss or something?

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nuonguy:

file:///home/mythtvuser/mythtvproject/mythtv/ . . . .html#ss20.1

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jams:

laga you were right

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jams:

that and libdvdread

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laga:

libdvdnav is responsible for dvd menus, isn't it?

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GreyFoxx:

yes

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jams:

yes

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laga:

umm, is that implemented yet in mythtv?

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jams:

not yet

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laga:

why do i need it then? ;)

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jams:

it was being worked on but geckofiend became bored with it

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laga:

oh, ok

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nuonguy:

I'm installing libdvdread, libdvdnav, libdvdcss, libdvdplay

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jams:

it's more then just "naviage the menus"

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nuonguy:

yay

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nuonguy:

it says dvd playback enabled

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** nuonguy is excited **

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_willcooke_:

:)

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nuonguy:

what is XvMC ?

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nuonguy:

what is JACK?

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laga:

Xvideo motion compensation. it helps with mpeg2 playback.

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nuonguy:

is that part of xorg?

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_willcooke_:

jack is some audio thing, xvmc is something to do with x

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laga:

jack is a audio toolkit for real-time audio processing, for example. if you don't know what it is, you don't need it

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nuonguy:

k

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laga:

i think XvMC is part of x.org, but your card/driver has to support oit

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laga:

it*

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jvs:

why the hell do all my recordings suddenly error out

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nuonguy:

ah, so maybe it's part of nvidia-glx or kernel-module-nvidia?

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jvs:

transcodings

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laga:

nuonguy: the nvidia drivers support it

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nuonguy:

cool

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laga:

jvs: are you running SVN?

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nuonguy:

So I should turn that on...

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nuonguy:

Anyone know what package I need to install for that?

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laga:

nuonguy: it has some downsides. you'll only get a greyscale OSD, for example.

[18:34:00]

nuonguy:

downer

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laga:

nuonguy: but you can turn it off if you don't like it.

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jvs:

laga: no

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laga:

nuonguy: just pass it a --enable-xvmc and see if it says that it's enabled

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nuonguy:

but is watching DVDs and movies and TV nice and smooth and clean with it?

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Kleptophobiac:

btw, is anybody running both gcc4 and mysql5?

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Juski:

laga: actually... on my EPIA system if I timestretch a transcoded recording I get a colour OSD

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laga:

Juski: weird. it's prolly switching to Xv? or related to the chromakey OSD.

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nuonguy:

or does XvMC not make much of a difference?

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laga:

nuonguy: there's only one way to find out. just enable it, it won't hurt since you can turn it off again

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Kleptophobiac:

xvmc makes all the difference in the world with HD recordings, but with SD, it's "meh"

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a1fa:

hi

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nuonguy:

k

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a1fa:

omg.. i've been having soo much problems with my mythtv box

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Juski:

laga: I don't know.. but might be switching to Xv, in which case I don't need XvMC :)

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laga:

Juski: hehe

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a1fa:

backend dying.. and no error msg 0.18–1

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Kleptophobiac:

a1fa – yeah... my mythbe is unhappy

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laga:

Juski: --verbose playback might give you a hint :=

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Kleptophobiac:

but I'm running svn

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Juski:

maybe, laga. maybe. one day I'll bother myself to check

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psofa:

my xv video out has a pair of blue lines around it

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psofa:

its actually very annoying

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Kleptophobiac:

change the polygon background color to black

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laga:

psofa: search the archives for xvattr, that will tell you a workaround

[18:38:00]

Kleptophobiac:

laga, yeah, that's the proggy that can change it

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Juski:

psofa: or use overscanning

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Kleptophobiac:

Juski – that doesn't work with mplayer

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Kleptophobiac:

and letterboxed content

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Juski:

eew

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Juski:

another reason mplayer sucks then

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Juski:

;)

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laga:

should work if you overscan on hardware-level

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Kleptophobiac:

well, you'd have to overscan to infinity and beyond in order to get rid of the blue line on stuff that's the wrong aspect ratio

[18:39:00]

a1fa:

apache2 is a bitch

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a1fa:

it wont start on boot

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Juski:

all TV is supposed to be shown overscanned anyway.. it's a hangup from when video timing was less accurate

[18:39:00]

a1fa:

for some reason

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Kleptophobiac:

otherwise you'd have to stretch it out of proportion

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Kleptophobiac:

and I'm talking about stuff like DVD or other video playback

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Kleptophobiac:

the overscan fixes your TV playback, but doesn't get rid of blue for other things

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a1fa:

Kleptophobiac: whats the oversan value 0.0 to 1.0?

[18:40:00]

Kleptophobiac:

0.0 = no overscan

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Juski:

a1fa: depends on your video driver

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Kleptophobiac:

1.0 = maximum overscan

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a1fa:

ya

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Juski:

if you use nvidia-settings it goes from -127 to 127 I think

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psofa:

Juski, the lines appear just around the actuall video. so for 16/9 content on a 4/3 display thats not an option

[18:41:00]

Juski:

so get a 16:9 display ;)

[18:41:00]

a1fa:

OMFG

[18:41:00]

Kleptophobiac:

I have a 16:9 display

[18:41:00]

Kleptophobiac:

but

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Kleptophobiac:

that still doesn't work when watching 2.25:1 content

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a1fa:

Option "TVOverScan" "20"

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Juski:

ahh true

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a1fa:

:

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psofa:

so im not alone with that problem?

[18:42:00]

a1fa:

lol

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Kleptophobiac:

psofa, everyone has it

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psofa:

my geforce2 didnt have it

[18:42:00]

Kleptophobiac:

and the xvattr program can fix it in one line

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psofa:

and its just xc

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psofa:

xv

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Juski:

I bought a DVD recently which has widescreen content on it, letterboxed to 4:3. but I have a 16:9 TV

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psofa:

not X or the tvout itself

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Kleptophobiac:

it just changes the xv background polygon color to black, which makes the problem moot

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laga:

i get an annoying green line at the bottom of my TV, maybe xvattr can fix this, too. but i don't think so *sigh*

[18:43:00]

a1fa:

god damn it

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a1fa:

i just updated my kernel

[18:43:00]

nuonguy:

what's --enable-directx for? So you can play AVIs ?

[18:43:00]

a1fa:

thanks debian

[18:43:00]

psofa:

if anyone knows the xarrt comman right away id appreciate it

[18:44:00]

Juski:

laga: I get weird coloured lines on 4:3 channels on my PoS DBOX2

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psofa:

*command

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psofa:

im to bored to search through archives

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a1fa:

guys

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laga:

Juski: umm. dunno. check #dbox2 on ircnet :)

[18:44:00]

a1fa:

this morning i woke up to find my mythtv box turned off.. i had a really hard time turning it back on

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psofa:

ive lost many hours trying to figure why i get xid locking up errors

[18:44:00]

a1fa:

probably a power supply issue

[18:44:00]

Kleptophobiac:

Anywone care to take a stab at this problem?

[18:44:00]

Kleptophobiac:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/164194

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Juski:

there's a thing.. where _did_ I put it anyway? hope it didn't go in the bin

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CygnusX1:

Greetings. I have a small problem...I was having trouble with the French dialog being played back on DVDs...with some research, I found that adding aid=128 to ./mplayer/config resolved this. However, when I play mythvideos, I have no sound with the aid setting.

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Kleptophobiac:

you can use different commands for mythvideo and mythdvd

[18:45:00]

Kleptophobiac:

use the command line options from their respective setup menus

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Kleptophobiac:

rather than the config file

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CygnusX1:

Kleptophobiac, Roger that! Thank you!

[18:46:00]

Kleptophobiac:

np

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psofa:

omg so many people got that problem

[18:47:00]

Kleptophobiac:

yeah

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Kleptophobiac:

:p

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psofa:

and noone has fixed it

[18:47:00]

psofa:

:/

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psofa:

i mean except the xvattr

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Kleptophobiac:

the "fix" is really a "workaround" but it's good enough to be considered a "fix"

[18:47:00]

psofa:

is there any downside with the xvattr fix

[18:47:00]

Kleptophobiac:

so what's wrong with xvattr? it works great

[18:47:00]

CygnusX1:

So is eveyone having the problem usng mysql 5?

[18:47:00]

Kleptophobiac:

CygnusX1 – apparently not

[18:48:00]

Kleptophobiac:

it's just me and a very few number of users

[18:48:00]

Kleptophobiac:

but it's seriously maddening

[18:48:00]

Kleptophobiac:

I have a cron job to restart my backend daemon at 2 am each morning because of it

[18:48:00]

Kleptophobiac:

and that blows

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nuonguy:

where does xvattr come from?

[18:48:00]

Kleptophobiac:

it's standalone

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a1fa:

Kleptophobiac: why is that?

[18:48:00]

Kleptophobiac:

a1fa – read the thread I linked to

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Kleptophobiac:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/164194

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Juski:

Kleptophobiac: reckon it's a bug in mysql related to the size of mythconverg?

[18:49:00]

Kleptophobiac:

I haven't a clue, but there's nothing in the sql error logs

[18:49:00]

Kleptophobiac:

mythbackend just loses the connection

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Kleptophobiac:

I also wiped the db and started over (so small db) and it was still super broken

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a1fa:

what version are you using?

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Kleptophobiac:

mysql 5.0.16

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a1fa:

mythtv

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a1fa:

SVN

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Kleptophobiac:

and I've been having the problem with mythtv since around SVN 7900 or so

[18:50:00]

a1fa:

aight.. i am having a similar problem

[18:50:00]

a1fa:

mythbackend just dies

[18:50:00]

a1fa:

or mythfronted dies

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a1fa:

w/o errors

[18:50:00]

Kleptophobiac:

and you get nothing of value in the logs either?

[18:50:00]

Kleptophobiac:

yeah

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nuonguy:

yum install xvattr\*

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a1fa:

nope

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a1fa:

its so annoying

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Kleptophobiac:

yeah, I even tried with gdb and maximum verbosity

[18:50:00]

a1fa:

if i forget mythmusic running, and turn off my tv

[18:50:00]

Kleptophobiac:

and I got jack

[18:50:00]

a1fa:

i come back home

[18:50:00]

a1fa:

its all frozen up

[18:50:00]

Kleptophobiac:

it just dies

[18:50:00]

a1fa:

i leave mythtv in "watch recordings"

[18:50:00]

a1fa:

i come home

[18:50:00]

a1fa:

its dead

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a1fa:

blank screen

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Kleptophobiac:

my frontend seems ok (I think, I haven't used it in a while due to the broken be)

[18:51:00]

nuonguy:

whoops

[18:51:00]

Kleptophobiac:

but the backend just pukes all the time

[18:51:00]

nuonguy:

wrong window

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Juski:

done some reading up on Jack.. seems like a good thing.. maybe someone could stuff a dynamics processor in there

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Kleptophobiac:

so yeah... this problem is so seriously annoying that I'm thinking of switching to an older distro

[18:52:00]

Kleptophobiac:

with all old everything

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a1fa:

lol

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a1fa:

i cant boot my box now

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a1fa:

disk consistency failed

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a1fa:

lo

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a1fa:

brand new fucking disk

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Kleptophobiac:

heh

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psofa:

the xvattr thing works fine :)

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psofa:

xvmc yay

[18:53:00]

Kleptophobiac:

well, I can't complain about my hardware. it seems to have been treating me well

[18:53:00]

Kleptophobiac:

although

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Kleptophobiac:

I do have another issue

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psofa:

10% cpu of an athlon 1200 playing dvd

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nuonguy:

Kleptophobiac: what distro do you use?

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Kleptophobiac:

Arch Linux

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nuonguy:

never heard of it

[18:53:00]

Kleptophobiac:

very minimalist

[18:53:00]

Kleptophobiac:

nice binary packages, excellent build system if you need source

[18:54:00]

Kleptophobiac:

very bleeding edge

[18:54:00]

psofa:

isnt it like building it yourself

[18:54:00]

CygnusX1:

Is that based off of Slack, or, am I thinking of VEctor?

[18:54:00]

psofa:

?

[18:54:00]

Kleptophobiac:

arch is somewhat similar to crux

[18:54:00]

nuonguy:

sounds like gentoo to me

[18:54:00]

Kleptophobiac:

gentoo and arch are rather opposite

[18:54:00]

Kleptophobiac:

gentoo makes you build everything from source

[18:54:00]

Kleptophobiac:

and is a royal pain in the ass to do anything with

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Kleptophobiac:

arch has a nice (but really simple) installer and has precompiled binaries for almost everything

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Kleptophobiac:

as well as the most uber awesome package manager known to man

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a1fa:

what a POS

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Kleptophobiac:

a1fa – what happened?

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a1fa:

dunno

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CygnusX1:

a1fa, what video card are you using?

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a1fa:

its still fscking the disk

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a1fa:

nvidia

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a1fa:

gforce

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a1fa:

i have to recompile all my drivers

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a1fa:

ivtv, and nvidia

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Kleptophobiac:

I used a gf4 mx and a gffx 5200 and had to use xvattr on both

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a1fa:

debian decided to update kernel image

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a1fa:

xvatt?

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Kleptophobiac:

avattr, xv attributes, to set the blue background to black

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a1fa:

i dont have a blue background

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Kleptophobiac:

ok, just pointing it out

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a1fa:

thanks

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a1fa:

:P

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a1fa:

aight

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a1fa:

i need to recompile nvidia driver again

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CygnusX1:

a1fa, Does this give you any results : grep Xid /var/log/syslog

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a1fa:

n0

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CygnusX1:

Okay, cancel that line then. I have been having issues that appear similar to yours...but, mine is the result of my vid card overheating (fan is dying)

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nuonguy:

I got a fanless geforce fx5200 for my mythbox

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a1fa:

hm

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a1fa:

my hd may be overheating

[19:01:00]

a1fa:

i've been getting odd problems

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nuonguy:

alfa: smartctl -a /dev/hda or whatever your hd is

[19:01:00]

CygnusX1:

nuonguy, are you using its TVout?

[19:01:00]

nuonguy:

yeah

[19:01:00]

CygnusX1:

How is it...can you oversscan to make it fill your tv?

[19:01:00]

a1fa:

http://pastebin.ca/33987

[19:01:00]

a1fa:

check it out

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a1fa:

i think my hd is bad

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nuonguy:

CygnusX1: I didn't have to do anything like that

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Juski:

CygnusX1: I used nvidia-settings

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Kleptophobiac:

does anybody else underclock their gfx card?

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nuonguy:

alfa: you're drive looks fine to me

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CygnusX1:

Juski, I am trying to make sure I get a card that works on. I had a 5900 in here that nvidia-settings oversacan worked on..but, that was overkill so I gave it to my boy and took his Ti4600. The overscan is not adjustable on it.

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nuonguy:

alfa: I'd run the self tests on that drive

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CygnusX1:

Definitely want to go fanless.

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nuonguy:

alfa: smartctl -t long /dev/hda ... takes a while

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Kleptophobiac:

yeah, I have a fanless 64bit fx5200 and am fairly happy with it

[19:05:00]

Juski:

CygnusX1: anything newer than GeForce2 should be fine I think

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nuonguy:

how do you know its 64bit?

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psofa:

i bought a fanless fx5200 to replace the gforce2ti

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psofa:

the gforce2 was a little crappy

[19:06:00]

psofa:

the svideo quality difference is obvious

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a1fa:

is version: 1.0–7676 the newest nvidia?

[19:07:00]

psofa:

nope

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psofa:

81 something

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CygnusX1:

8174

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laga:

there's a newer one, but it's broken. the opengl vsync stuff uses lots of cpu in the newest version

[19:07:00]

a1fa:

my gl is not working anyway for some reason

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a1fa:

i cand load glx

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psofa:

is the blue line thing nvidia related?

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a1fa:

psofa: overscan that bitch

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psofa:

i used the xvattr thing

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psofa:

and works fine

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psofa:

im just wondering whos fault is it

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Kleptophobiac:

I think it's an interaction between the nvidia driver and xv itself

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Juski:

ickle question : should transcoding errors show up in the mythbackend log?

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a1fa:

i have a big problem

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a1fa:

it is forcing me to run fsck at every reboot

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a1fa:

due to inconsistency

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Juski:

a1fa: get yer data off there ASAP & run a manufacturer's diagnostic

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a1fa:

i did

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a1fa:

its fine

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a1fa:

the hd is fine

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a1fa:

smart reported everything to be fine

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laga:

Juski: umm, i turned on logging in mythfrontend. it shows up in my mythweb, then.

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Juski:

SMART isn't worth the paper it's not written on IMHO

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laga:

Juski: looks like mythtranscode --mpeg2 is finally working for me, i'm currently testing it

[19:16:00]

Kleptophobiac:

it's not bad, it's good for seeing comm errors and temperature

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CygnusX1:

It is occasionaly. In three drives at work, it warned in time to removed data. on fourth drive, it was a bit late.

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Juski:

alright – so it's better than doing nothing, then

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nuonguy:

laga is sorta right, I'm afraid

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nuonguy:

the smart stuff isn't that reliable

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** laga didn't say anything about s.m.a.r.t ;) **

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laga:

i only know that i set up smartd to send me an email in case anything goes wrong, but'Im not sure if e-mail is configured on this machin3

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laga:

machine*

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CygnusX1:

a1fa, are you shutting your system down properly...or, are you having to kill the power when it locks up?

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nuonguy:

ah, it was Juski who doesn't respect smart

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nuonguy:

sorry

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laga:

np;)

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Juski:

laga: logging is already enabled. I've had 2 transcodings fail, but there's nothing in the log

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nuonguy:

Juski? What's your experience?

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laga:

Juski: weird. what are you trying to do?

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Juski:

nuonguy: when disks have died on me, they've just suddenly gone.. no warning at all

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_willcooke_:

Jono!

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jono:

heya

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nuonguy:

I wish smartctl worked on serial ata and on USB drives

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jono:

_willcooke_, heya mate :)

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Juski:

laga: only trying to save some disk space in time for the xmas schedules

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_willcooke_:

jono, my new myth server is fooked! Seems that the MB I bought has a chipset that isnt supported properly! Arse!

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laga:

Juski: oh, ok. been wondering if you were messing arround with the mpeg2 stuff as well

[19:20:00]

jono:

I get this in my frontend logs: Realtime priority would require SUID root – how do I enable this?

[19:20:00]

nuonguy:

Juski: I've seen that too, but I've also seen where it will warn well in advance

[19:20:00]

Juski:

transcoding dvb mpeg2 to mpeg4.. the ones that work are just fine

[19:20:00]

jono:

_willcooke_, oh no!! :(

[19:20:00]

_willcooke_:

jono, could you run frontend via sudo?

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jono:

Juski, did you say the nova-t and pvr-350 conflict problem is fixed in later version of ivtv and the kernel?

[19:21:00]

laga:

jono: there's something in the official HOWTO. make sure to check the version at svn.mythtv.org (browse source) to get the newest stuff, the've added something about it

[19:21:00]

jono:

_willcooke_, ahhh, cunning idea :P

[19:21:00]

Juski:

jono: I didn't say that specifically, but I suspect it'll be the case

[19:21:00]

_willcooke_:

jono, I'll (hopefully) be building myth from svn later, I'll send you the debs if you like (could be a long wait though!)

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jono:

_willcooke_, that would be awesome :)

[19:22:00]

Juski:

I'm running tail -f on the mythbackend log.. nothing doing & the transcode just 'errored' again

[19:22:00]

_willcooke_:

jono, it'll be 32bit, I've given up on 64 as well!

[19:23:00]

_willcooke_:

Juski, is mtd running on the backend?

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a1fa:

i am forced to run FSCK manually on everyboot.. how can i fix this problem?

[19:23:00]

nuonguy:

Anyone know what packages I need to install to get FFTW and AAC to build with mythplugins?

[19:23:00]

a1fa:

L:)

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laga:

_willcooke_: mtd is only for mythDVD

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Juski:

_willcooke_: no. this is just the inbuilt transcoder

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Krazylegz:

a1fa: Switch to a filesystem that doesn't have fsck?

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Juski:

and I have about ten recordings that transcoded without any issues

[19:23:00]

_willcooke_:

is it?!?! Bollocks. RTFM I guess.

[19:23:00]

laga:

_willcooke_: mythtv uses mythtranscode

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Juski:

right.. I _do_ see messages in the log, but only like "adding pes stream at pid 0x263 with type 3"

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jono:

Juski, was _willcooke_ wise choice

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** _willcooke_ suspects there isn't a ubuntu package for it **

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jono:

Juski, is the conflict we discussed the other day certainly the problem between the two cards?

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laga:

_willcooke_: umm, mythtranscode comes with mythtv

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Juski:

jono: the conflict is between different kernel modules that are basically the same but one expects different stuff to be passed to it

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_willcooke_:

laga, Oh! ;) I wonder why whenever I transcode something it just fails? I'll read the book! ;)

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Juski:

I read that rather than use ivtv's tveeprom you can use the v4l tveeprom with no ill effects

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jono:

Juski, ok, cool, just so I know what to search for

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_willcooke_:

Oh, yeah, question... I thought that if you had a dvb card then myth doesnt convert to nuv, and so you could save the mp2 stream as is with no further loss of quality, is that true?

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billvortex:

_willcooke_, as of .18, it saves it as a mpeg file named .nuv

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Juski:

nice one billvortex :)

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jono:

Juski, but can I specify one tveeprom for one card and another tveeprom for the other?

[19:29:00]

billvortex:

Juski, hrm?

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_willcooke_:

Ahhh!

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Juski:

jono: you don't need to

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Juski:

billvortex: took the words right outta my mouth

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jono:

Juski, ?

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billvortex:

Juski, hehe, fair nuff.

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** billvortex pokes kormoc. **

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Juski:

jono: just use the one tveeprom. the hauppauge card will allegedly work with either

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_willcooke_:

so transcode would then convert that into mpeg4?

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billvortex:

figures I forget to sign off of irc from work over a weekend.

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laga:

_willcooke_: do that. good luck :=

[19:30:00]

jono:

Juski, oh, so use the kernel tveeprom?

[19:30:00]

Juski:

_willcooke_: yeah, or mpeg2, as is coming soon apparently

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billvortex:

_willcooke_, it's easiest to use nuvesport.

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Juski:

jono: that's what I read, but don't trust too much of what comes out of my braincell today ;)

[19:31:00]

jono:

Juski, oh cool, will try that

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_willcooke_:

thanks billvortex, I'll look at that

[19:31:00]

jono:

Juski, is it *only* the tveeprom that is causing the problem?

[19:31:00]

Juski:

jono: according to what you posted the other day, yes

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billvortex:

Juski, the ivtv's specific tveeprom was just a small fork to get it to work with the 150/500 and it's now backported to the in kernel tree as of ivtv .5.1 I beleive

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** jono has been having segfaults on his myth box that needs fixing **

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jono:

Juski, cheers pal :)

[19:32:00]

Krazylegz:

Who wants a general Linux question?

[19:32:00]

billvortex:

Krazylegz, whatcha need?

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Juski:

billvortex: cheers for that. by the time I get my pvr150 it'll be sorted then ;)

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jono:

billvortex, so the original in-kernel one should be fine for the pvr-350 ?

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Juski:

actually by the time I get around to it, no doubt it'll all be in the kernel

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billvortex:

jono, yuppies. I'm using it for my m-179 (pvr 250)

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** jono has been getting segfaults with his myth box **

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jono:

currently logging frontend output to point the bugger

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Juski:

jono: on 0.18?

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jono:

billvortex, so this only applies to the tveeprom module right? I assume I use the ivtv version of the other modules?

[19:34:00]

jono:

Juski, yep

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Juski:

I've only ever had 2 segfaults, neither of which could be reproduced

[19:34:00]

billvortex:

jono, nope, all the extra modules are fine for the 250/350/m179

[19:34:00]

jono:

Juski, this seemed to happen last night when I started recording space cadets – there was an error in the backend that it couldnt access the DVB card, so that may be the problem

[19:35:00]

jono:

billvortex, so by switching to the kernel tveeprom and using ivtv for the other modules, I can use my nova-t and pvr-350 together without conflict?

[19:35:00]

billvortex:

in theory, aye

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Juski:

assuming tveeprom is new enough, and there's but one way to find that out

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jono:

cool

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jono:

problem is I may have deleted the kernel module, mind you I am sure someone can send me it

[19:37:00]

Juski:

jono: just grab it with apt-get or whatever

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Krazylegz:

billvortex: Can I just PM you?

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jono:

Juski, but that will upgrade the whole kernel

[19:38:00]

** jono is doing a mythtv talk on wednesday **

[19:38:00]

billvortex:

Krazylegz, sure... but I can't respond...

[19:38:00]

jono:

at our local LUG

[19:38:00]

Krazylegz:

Oh, right.

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billvortex:

Krazylegz, I'm kormoc btw.

[19:38:00]

jono:

http://jonobacon.org/events/

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Krazylegz:

billvortex: I thought so. I stabbed you earlier...

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billvortex:

heh

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_willcooke_:

jono, Aq was saying that he quite fancies a myth box now!

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heinola:

hello all again

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billvortex:

Krazylegz, there, I'm in lanc-lug now

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Krazylegz:

Anyway. I got a bigger drive for my Mythbox. I used dd and netcat to copy the old drive to the new one. The whole disk. My Mythbox will only support one hard drive, and I need to enlarge a few partitions.

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billvortex:

ahh, what partition type?

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Krazylegz:

Reiserfs.

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heinola:

any have or had a mythtv working with slackware 10.2 ?

[19:41:00]

heinola:

opps i mean mysql for mythtv

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heinola:

sry

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Juski:

jono: I'm not sure I like the 'hacking' tone there ;)

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Juski:

that word has connotations to the great unwashed

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GreyFoxx:

heinola:All of my boxes are slackware

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jono:

Juski, heh

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jono:

_willcooke_, hah! :)

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heinola:

:)

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nuonguy:

are any of the developers here?

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heinola:

can i use a /public partion with mysql for mythtv

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nuonguy:

./mythbackend: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.19.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

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GreyFoxx:

heinola: What do you mean ?

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Juski:

oooo.. hey this Yammi app I'm playing with at the moment _might_ be able to be changed to work with mythmusic (at 1st glance).. has that ever been mooted?

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nuonguy:

I used --enable-prefix=/home/mythtvuser/myth

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GreyFoxx:

nuonguy: If you are installing in a non standard location you will need to add an entry to /etc/ld.so.conf so that it can find the libraries

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nuonguy:

k

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nuonguy:

and then run ldconfig?

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GreyFoxx:

yeah

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GreyFoxx:

you might be able to use LD_PATH as well if you want. it's something I rarely use so you would have to look it up

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GreyFoxx:

but the ld.so.conf would do it

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nuonguy:

GreyFoxx: you rawk!

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nuonguy:

And that seems to fix my bug!

[19:53:00]

nuonguy:

Ok, so check this out:

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nuonguy:

I have two tv tuner cards

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nuonguy:

It seems I can only use the 2nd one with the atrpms packages and also with 0-18-fixes from svn

[19:54:00]

nuonguy:

with 0–19 from svn this morning, it seems to understand my cards better

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_willcooke_:

nuonguy, Identical cards?

[19:54:00]

nuonguy:

no

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nuonguy:

One is a pvr150

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nuonguy:

one is an avertv go fm 007

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Juski:

so anyway.. these failed transcodings aren't being logged. at all. listings downloads etc are, as are scheduler events

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nuonguy:

I can use them with mplayer/tvtime just fine

[19:55:00]

nuonguy:

but with 0-18-fixes, with my experiments, I can only record while watching tv, ie, only the 2nd tuner works

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Juski:

nuonguy: for the pvr150 you need ivtv

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heinola:

brb working on getting mysql set up correct

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nuonguy:

right

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nuonguy:

both cards work

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nuonguy:

I verified with tvtime and with mplayer

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Juski:

yes, but currently I'd put money on the 150 being used in software encoding mode, which kinda defeats the object of having a PVR150 card

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nuonguy:

Another bonus with 0–19: I had some recordings .nuv files that were deleted but the gui would delete them

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nuonguy:

fixed with 0–19

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_willcooke_:

nuonguy, is it using the 150 to encoder the analogue coming in from the avertv

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billvortex:

tvtime should never work with a pvr card I thought

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nuonguy:

I'm sorry, I don't follow you

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nuonguy:

It doesn't

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nuonguy:

I use mplayer to verify that the pvr150 works

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nuonguy:

I use tvtime to verify that the avertv card works

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_willcooke_:

nuonguy, analogue video --> pvr150 --> mpeg2 digital --> tv ??

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Juski:

yeh but not tvtime, right? ;)

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billvortex:

ahh, gotcha

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Juski:

ahhh

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nuonguy:

_willcooke_: I believe I filled out the fields for the tuner cards correctly when so prompted by mythtvsetup

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Juski:

you can actually use the 150 in a direct mode though I think. I know my pvr2000 card works that way (the only way it _does_ work)

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jono:

right off for dinner, later all

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_willcooke_:

laters jono

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billvortex:

Juski, I was under the impression that none of the pvrs could opperate in framegrabber mode

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** billvortex shrugs **

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jonK:

building .19 on backend and frontends now

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heinola:

the databse default is /usr/share/mythtv/database ?

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Juski:

I thought there was /dev/video16 or something

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jonK:

anythigng I should know?

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billvortex:

heinola, it's where ever you tell mysql to store it, my default is /var/mysql/mythconverg/

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nuonguy:

I have used both cards by themselves with mythtv before 0-18-fixes, with the atrpms packages

[20:00:00]

nuonguy:

It's when I put both of them in there and upgraded that I had problems

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heinola:

ok ty

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nuonguy:

0–19 rawks!

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jonK:

how?

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jonK:

what's changed?

[20:04:00]

jonK:

I'm building right now...

[20:05:00]

nuonguy:

other than my issues being fixed?

[20:05:00]

nuonguy:

Don't know

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billvortex:

jonK, check the timeline on myth's site

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_willcooke_:

What's the opinion on archiving your recordings? Burn to disk, or store on a HDD?

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billvortex:

I only keep mine on my hd, but others use nuvexport to export from myth and then burn to dvd

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_willcooke_:

billvortex, any ideas how long a dvd is supposed to last?

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CygnusX1:

_willcooke_, I have CDs that were becoming unreadable at just under 5 years old.

[20:08:00]

jonK:

yes, beacuse I want my archives of the spice channel to be accessible for years and years

[20:09:00]

billvortex:

_willcooke_, it depends on the media used (it should say somewhere on the packageing) and how well you store them

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heinola:

i can not find mc.sql :(

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billvortex:

_willcooke_, I have a dvdrw here that's rated at 2 years

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Juski:

jonK: just keep em on HDD and when bigger ones come out in future, just copy em across

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billvortex:

heinola, updatedb and the locate mc.sql

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billvortex:

*and then

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_willcooke_:

Eeek, is that all? I think the HDD way might be better for long term then?

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Juski:

if you look after a HDD chances are it'll last for ages beyond what recordable media can

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heinola:

running update

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** _willcooke_ does some maths **

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CygnusX1:

is 0.19 close to release? (I have not gone from 0.18 to .18.1 yet and will wait if so)

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Juski:

if you read the small print of the claims these media manufacturers make you'll see their 'ten years' or whatever applies only if you store the damn thing in an airless light-free box

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nuonguy:

heinola: isn't it in /usr/share/doc/mythtv-0.18.1/database/mc.sql

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jeroenimo:

guys and girls . I'm trying to install mythtv on ubuntu. when I apt-get install mythtv I get an error . can i paste it here or should I use a pastebin ?

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heinola:

looking br

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heinola:

brb

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Juski:

jeroenimo: pastebin if it's longer than 2 lines

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jeroenimo:

ist 2.5 lines

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jeroenimo:

its

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Juski:

pah just quote it here

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Juski:

nothing spoiling ;)

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jeroenimo:

mythtv: Depends: mythtv-frontend (= 0.18.1–5) but it is not going to be installed

[20:13:00]

jeroenimo:

Depends: mythtv-backend (= 0.18.1–5) but it is not going to be installed

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jeroenimo:

haev cut some out

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Juski:

jeroenimo: there's a very good howto over at ermm... http://www.abarbaccia.com/

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_willcooke_:

Let's say a 300Gb HDD costs 100 quid, and 25 x 4.7Gb (so, 117Gb) costs a fiver. so about 15quid for 300Gb. Blimey, big price difference.

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Juski:

I got a basic mythtv setup going on ubuntu in just under 2 hours.. and that included installing the distro

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jeroenimo:

yes I thought I did it right but hey is it really neccesary to get the videocard drivers ?

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_willcooke_:

But I suppose once you add on the cost of the Ikea shelves to keep all those dvd's on...

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jeroenimo:

I followed the tutorial but since the videocard worked great under ubuntu I thought that wouldn't be neccesary

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billvortex:

_willcooke_, external usb cages for the drives would be good too, if you're not planning to keep them long long term

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_willcooke_:

billvortex, good idea, hot-swap would be nice too come to think of it

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billvortex:

I would recommend usb 2 highspeed (480 mbits) or firewire 800 (800 mbit) units, as it's worth the little extra cost imho.

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a1fa:

lol

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a1fa:

guys

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a1fa:

i am reformating my mythtv box

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a1fa:

need to scrap it all from the begining

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jonK:

I plan on doing that once the 2.6.15 kernel is out

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jonK:

going to start with some new hardware as well...

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billvortex:

jonK, just a fyi, 2.6.15-r1+ doesn't work with itvt 0.4.x currently, only with ivtv 0.5.1 I beleive

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jonK:

so your trying to tell me that...?

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jonK:

I'll have to use 0.5.1 version of ivtv?

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billvortex:

yeah

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_willcooke_:

And any ubuntu users with dvb cards, dont be tempted by Dapper yet. At the moment it's broken

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jonK:

should that be a problem?

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billvortex:

it can be. the 0.5.x branch is the development branch, and has the big code changes and what not

[20:25:00]

jonK:

hmm...

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mofu:

it's called unstable for a reason

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jonK:

maybe it's fixed my pvr350/pvr500 conflict then

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a1fa:

reinstall scheduled for 6:00

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a1fa:

added into change managment

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a1fa:

hehe

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a1fa:

:P

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billvortex:

what's the difference between mpeg2-ps and mpeg2-ts?

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mrnice`:

hi

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mrnice`:

is there a new apt source?

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Juski:

billvortex: ps are program streams like you get on DVD

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billvortex:

Juski, I'm assuming that the pvr's do ps?

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Juski:

ts is a 'transport stream' which has been ruggedised for broadcasting

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billvortex:

mrnice`, that would depends on your distro and all that specific stuff.

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billvortex:

Juski, so dvb would be ts?

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mrnice`:

i got debian

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Juski:

billvortex: I think so, but I've seen that sometimes you need to remux pvr recordings to get them to play in DVD players etc properly

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CygnusX1:

CAn anyone point me to a howto for only installing mythfrontend from source?

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billvortex:

CygnusX1, there's no reason to only install the frontend really, no major space saving and you won't get support if things go wrong.

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mofu:

other than the normal docs?

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Juski:

billvortex: yeah DVB is TS based

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mrnice`:

and http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists . . . e/Sources.gz got wrong path in it

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billvortex:

Juski, yeah, I just was playing with the recording bitrate (upping it finally), and I noticed there was two types of mpeg2 and I was wondering what the difference was. Thanks

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mofu:

matt isn't maintaining those anymore

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CygnusX1:

billvortex, The reason is that I want to watch TV and recordings on my workstation, but, not utilize local mysql, backend, or any thing else.

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billvortex:

CygnusX1, the frontend requires mysql no matter what compile options you use

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mrnice`:

can i proxy that or is there a super command which let him forgot wrong pathes

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mofu:

mysql-client . . . .

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CygnusX1:

billvortex, but, it will use the mysql instance on my backend, correct?

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billvortex:

CygnusX1, you don't need to actually use the local ones, no need to start it, but you still need the headers and all that. Yeah, it will

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billvortex:

mofu, I don't beleive mysql-client has the headers?

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mofu:

to compile? Maybe not

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nuonguy:

What's a good way to start ~/myth/bin/mythbackend and ~/myth/bin/mythfrontend on reboot?

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mofu:

does no one read the docs?

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billvortex:

nuonguy, might want to try the init.d script for mythbackend

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billvortex:

mofu, of course not.

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nuonguy:

yeah

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heinola:

ill be back later after a break having issues connecting/finding the db

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gpx1000:

need some help if anyone is around.

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Juski:

nah nobody is around

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gpx1000:

well here's the issue... I can view the TV from my capture card using mythphone but when I try to watch livetv everything crashes

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Krazylegz:

Check your log?

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gpx1000:

the log report isn't making sense...

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gpx1000:

first error I get on the backend is the desired subchannel is not specified in freqid "3", Using 1.

[21:09:00]

gpx1000:

after that it says HD5 Error: could not obtain sync

[21:10:00]

Krazylegz:

Maybe you need to check that your channels are setup properly in mythtv-setup.

[21:10:00]

Juski:

the 1st error is because the default starting channel number is 3, and I suspect you don't have a channel 3 set up yet

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gpx1000:

well it's setup from mythfilldatabase... went back in to myth-setup and I see a channel 3 sitting right there.

[21:11:00]

Juski:

incidentally, why _is_ the default always 3, and not 1 ?

[21:11:00]

gpx1000:

when I go to mythphone I see channel 3.

[21:11:00]

Juski:

gpx1000: have you done any setup of your tv card in mythtv-setup?

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gpx1000:

yes... well as far as the fedoratvology says to... it's a HDTV3000

[21:12:00]

Juski:

scanned for channels etc?

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gpx1000:

the scan for channels is not selectable in the channels section.

[21:13:00]

Juski:

I dunno if you have to for HDTV, but I assume so

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_willcooke_:

Juski, there is an option, I've seen it somewhere, that says what the default channel is.

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Juski:

yes I know that _willcooke_ but why choose 3?

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gpx1000:

the docs said to run mythfilldatabase and not use the channel tab in the mythtv-setup

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_willcooke_:

Juski, So you don't miss "I'm a has-been get me out of here" of course.

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Juski:

lol

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billvortex:

Juski, Older tv's didnt even support tuning to channel 1

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gpx1000:

Another question; when I go to mythphone it treats the tv signal as a camera... which is why I can watch tv by using mythphone. is something not set right here?

[21:21:00]

Juski:

gpx1000: I don't even understand how mythphone _can_ use the HD card. I thought none of them had any analogue stuff on them

[21:22:00]

gpx1000:

the HDTV3000 card has a cable turner on it. there's only a few signals that aren't analoge right now.

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Juski:

riiight

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CygnusX1:

Another bad question, I am sure...how do I stop the mythbackend daemon?

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_willcooke_:

/etc/init.d/mythbackend stop

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CygnusX1:

_willcooke_, I am on slackware...I do not have that

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poonj:

hey guys

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mofu:

CygnusX1: do you know how you started it>

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poonj:

which version of xmame is supported by mythgame?

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_willcooke_:

cygnusX1, bad luck! ;)

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CygnusX1:

It is started in my /etc/rc.d/rc.local with /usr/local/bin/mythbackend -d > /home/mythtv/mythbackend.log 2>&1 &

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mofu:

so kill it, not pretty,

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CygnusX1:

_willcooke_, is your /etc/init.d/mythbackend a script?

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_willcooke_:

hold on, I'll check...

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gpx1000:

CygnusX1, it's killed then the lock file removed

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_willcooke_:

ha! ...

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_willcooke_:

start-stop-daemon --stop --oknodo --pidfile $RUNDIR/$NAME.pid \

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_willcooke_:

--chuid $USER --exec $DAEMON — $ARGS

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CygnusX1:

Okay, that helps lead me to etc.rc.d.init.d.mythbackend in contrib

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gpx1000:

does anyone know of a resource where I can read up on my problem? I've been searching google, but all the solutions that come up seem to be for FC3 (prior to the capture card drivers being included in the kernel of FC4)

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xris:

so all you svn-users.. please check out the new mythweb and find all of the bugs for me. :)

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Krazylegz:

Sir? Yes sir.

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mofu:

no, that's Sir!, Yes Sir!

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mofu:

lol

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Krazylegz:

Sir! Yes SIR!

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xris:

:)

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xris:

no new features, but it's now organized differently... should make adding new features easier.

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CygnusX1:

Thank you gentlemen.

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** Krazylegz is not using SVN yet **

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xris:

Krazylegz: well, I hear that livetv is still somewhat broken, so that may be smart.

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Krazylegz:

Hmm, yeah.

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Krazylegz:

We use the Mythbox as a vable box.

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Krazylegz:

*cable box.

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Juski:

I grabbed the latest SVN a couple of days ago.. funny thing is that although live tv is pretty borked, viewing the recordings it makes works just fine – go figure

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gpx1000:

xris, missing the mythtv include directory on clean checkout

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xris:

gpx1000: huh?

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gpx1000:

g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -fomit-frame-pointer -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -DPREFIX=\"\" -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default -I. -I/include -I/usr/kde/3.3/include -I/include -I/usr/include/kde -I/opt/kde3/include -I/usr/lib/qt-3.3/include -o main.o main.cppIn file included from main.cpp:18: tabview.h:14:32: error: mythtv/mythdialogs.h: No such file or directory

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xris:

what does that have to do with mythweb?

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gpx1000:

oh sorry; wrong thing was reading...

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gpx1000:

nm

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billvortex:

gpx1000, please note, svn randomly breaks and isnt' considered stable, so if you're newish to this, you might want to stay away from it

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Juski:

xris: I'll grab mythweb then.. I like trying new stuff

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gpx1000:

billvortex, thanks..

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** Juski uses mythweb more than he does livetv ;) **

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xris:

Juski: there are some setup changes you may run into if you haven't touched it in a month or so

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xris:

read the .htaccess file

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Juski:

okees

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gpx1000:

billvortex, I'm not entirely new to this... this is actually the 5th box I've put together, first foye into HDTV though

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xris:

Juski: I still have a few changes to make to automate some stuff, but I'm just pleased with the direction things are going

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CygnusX1:

Okay, for more fun, when making mythplugins0.18.1, it appears to be looking for kde headers in /opt/kde3/include...my stuff is in /opt/kde/include. I see no option in configure to change this

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xris:

echo $KDEDIR

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CygnusX1:

/opt/kde

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xris:

weird

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Netslayer:

if i want to cut the mpeg2 a pvr 250 card produces, how would i go about doing that?

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CygnusX1:

would make a /opt/kde3 symlink point at /opt/kde be a bad method?

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xris:

CygnusX1: kludge, but not unusual thing to do

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xris:

Netslayer: nuvexport mpeg2cut

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xris:

though it doesn't work with any modern distro

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Netslayer:

mpeg2cut isn't in portage

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xris:

Netslayer: nuvexport

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xris:

mpeg2cut is the function

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Netslayer:

these videos actually aren't in myth

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xris:

then probably something like gopdit

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Netslayer:

it was raw captures

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xris:

or avidemux

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_willcooke_:

netslayer, avidemux2

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_willcooke_:

what he said

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xris:

you may end up with sync issues with avidemux, though.. unless you cut on i-frames (or at the GOP — not sure what it does for editing mpegs, I only edit avi's with it)

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** _willcooke_ used to use it for dvb editing **

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_willcooke_:

There is an option in the audio filter to help you sort the sync by hand, it's a p.i.t.a. but it used to work for me

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billvortex:

odder still, $KDEDIR isn't even set on my box...

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Netslayer:

_willcooke_, any idea if it can do mpeg2 cutting via the shell? want to automate it

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billvortex:

$KDEDIRS is however

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_willcooke_:

gopchop might do it? dunno

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billvortex:

Netslayer, and how will you know where to chop?

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_willcooke_:

netslayer, or if you're just trimming a bit off the start and a bit off the end, then mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -ss <start> -endpos <end> would do

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Netslayer:

heh, 2hr / 2

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Netslayer:

basically my father has encoded about 200hrs of mpeg2 video on windows with the pvr 250 card

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_willcooke_:

personally, I'd use mencoder, but that's only because I know how to work it

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Netslayer:

so i'm assuming the codec is the same, and i want to automate the whole trim and burn system

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_willcooke_:

netslayer, you should be able to do that with a shell script

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_willcooke_:

netslayer, do you want to keep it as mp2?

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Netslayer:

_willcooke_, they will go directly to a dvd burner

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Netslayer:

so i'll need to use an authoring program as a step as well.. nuvexport has some nice example code i can use i know

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_willcooke_:

netslayer, to be played back on a stand-alone dvd player?

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Netslayer:

yup

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_willcooke_:

netslayer, ;)

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Netslayer:

i know

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CygnusX1:

Hmm...the mythbrowser plugin appears to be ahrdwired for /opt/kde3

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_willcooke_:

You should be able to convert the mp2 to a ps and it might well just play

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_willcooke_:

netslayer, worth a test, it ll save you some time

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dagfinnr:

good evening all

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_willcooke_:

hello

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dagfinnr:

im just wondering what the transcode bit does?

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dagfinnr:

and if its possible to record to divx format or someting simular?

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_willcooke_:

I was asking about this earlier, and was told "Good luck" ;)

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_willcooke_:

nuvexport is the thing for the job, so I'm told

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xris:

dagfinnr: mpeg4 is divx

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dagfinnr:

ok

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dagfinnr:

what format is it beeing recorded to now?

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xris:

but the container format is a modified form of nupplevideo

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dagfinnr:

and what does the transcode part do?

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xris:

the internal transcoder? converts from mpeg2/rtjpeg/mpeg4 into rtjpeg/mpeg4 (as configured in the transcode profile)

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dagfinnr:

yeah..i suppose its the internal..when i see on the options on a recorded ..i can select begin transcoding

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xris:

if you want to export to an avi or something like that,you want nuvexport

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dagfinnr:

where can i configure the transcode part?

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Netslayer:

_willcooke_, what's a ps?

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_willcooke_:

netslayer, programme stream I think

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Mulvane:

Running on FreeBSD6. When setting up the capture card, I enter /dev/cxm0 and then I get an error 'Error, no inputs found'..I can however cat this device and save to mpg

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dagfinnr:

xris, can i make it do it automatically after recording?

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xris:

that's a type of mpeg

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xris:

dagfinnr: sort of.. wouldn't recommend, though.

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dagfinnr:

xris, so i would just have to live with those big files? :Å

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dagfinnr:

:på

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xris:

or record at a lower bitrate... what are you recording as?

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dagfinnr:

you didnt say where i could edit the transcode part

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xris:

it's a recording profile

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dagfinnr:

i dunno..where do i check those things

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dagfinnr:

ah

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xris:

you can also transcode to remove commercials

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xris:

which is why I'd suggest not having it be automatic

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dagfinnr:

ok

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dagfinnr:

mpeg2ps witht the hardware encoder..is the default recording profile

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billvortex:

yes

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dagfinnr:

is that good or bad quality?

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dagfinnr:

bitrate 4500

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heinola:

and good mysqladmin frontends out there?

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billvortex:

mpeg2-ps is the type the card outputs, so it's the only option

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_willcooke_:

good i'd say

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billvortex:

dagfinnr, bt of 4500 is about... 2 gigs per hour, rather nice

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xris:

that's about what I record at.

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dagfinnr:

ok

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xris:

and then export to xvid avi with nuvexport after I remove commercials

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billvortex:

heinola, phpmyadmin for webservers

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xris:

and play with mythvideo

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dagfinnr:

is that like vhs or dvd quality?

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heinola:

ty

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_willcooke_:

dvd

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dagfinnr:

k

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billvortex:

it all depends on the signal quality of your input too, keep in mind

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_willcooke_:

well, I think about 50% of dvd, but still better than vhs

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dagfinnr:

xris: you use the transcode part in myth to convert? or manually with nuvexport?

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heinola:

im am not understanding how mysql is set up and anything i do or read comes out wronge lol

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xris:

dagfinnr: nuvexport. mythtranscode is not for exporting.

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_willcooke_:

heinola, I had big problems with mysql when I installed, the reason was because I hadn't changed the IP address from 127.0.0.1 to the actual IP address

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heinola:

dynamic ip

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billvortex:

heinola, just do exactly as the docs say, and it should work

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_willcooke_:

set a fixed one!

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billvortex:

127.0.0.1 is never dynamic...

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kcid:

127.0.0.1 should've worked fine

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_willcooke_:

billvortex, that's what I thought!

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billvortex:

_willcooke_, dialup networking would be hard to set static :P

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dagfinnr:

xris, k

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heinola:

well ill do the setup one more time then im done lol

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heinola:

for the day

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_willcooke_:

dial up? ;- )

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_willcooke_:

whats that

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billvortex:

_willcooke_, for example... there's a lot of networks that won't handle statis ips

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heinola:

im dsl

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dagfinnr:

xris, how can i choose the transcode profile? when i try to transcode i could just start it, or begin commercial .. , i cannot choose from the two transcode profiles i have?

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xris:

dagfinnr: pretty sure there's one profile for hardware sources, and one for software sources...

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xris:

but I haven't used .18.x in so long I don't know what's in it vs svn

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billvortex:

there is

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billvortex:

theres 4 profiles

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_willcooke_:

from http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html

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billvortex:

Transcode, Hardware encoders, Software encoders, Livetv

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_willcooke_:

Run the MythTV setup program on your Master backend. Under the "General" menu, change the IP address of the current machine (by default, "127.0.0.1") to the real external IP address – 127.0.0.1 is the loopback address and no external machine can access it. Change the Master Server IP setting to the same IP address as well

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billvortex:

sure, if you're gonna use more then that single machine

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_willcooke_:

oh yeah!

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dagfinnr:

how do i know what transcode profile will be used on the hw encoding?

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billvortex:

_willcooke_, hence why it says frontend only configuration

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Gumby:

does anyone know where I would find the settings for bttv modules in my .config?

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Mulvane:

Running on FreeBSD6. When setting up the capture card, I enter /dev/cxm0 and then I get an error 'Error, no inputs found'..I can however cat this device and save to mpg

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billvortex:

dagfinnr, transcoding profile is always use for transcoding

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billvortex:

Gumby, settings? you mean like card=blah type=blah

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Gumby:

billvortex: sorry, no. Just where the module is specified

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Gumby:

or if it even is at all

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billvortex:

Mulvane, no need to repeat yourself, have you tried googling? does myth even work with bsds?

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billvortex:

Gumby, make menuconfig, when you get the display, hit / and type bttv and it will show you the path

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Mulvane:

billvortex Yeah, it works..I have everything working except myth reading from the input..

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Mulvane:

All parts of myth work except tv

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Gumby:

billvortex: / doesnt seem to do anything

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dagfinnr:

billvortex, thanks. is there any way to see the transcoding status? when do i know its finished..?

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billvortex:

Mulvane, http://mythtv.son.org/tiki-index.php

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billvortex:

Mulvane, it says it ineeds a modified cxm driver?

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billvortex:

Gumby, what kernel version?

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billvortex:

dagfinnr, it will do it in the background, and I think it shows something different for already transcoded recordings, but I'm not sure

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Mulvane:

billvortex That's the one I have used for most setup..That's based on .17..And is really outdated..

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Gumby:

billvortex: got it. I was in a 2.6.8 source. It works in 2.6.14–3

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Gumby:

allthough searching for bttv gives me "no matches found"

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billvortex:

yeah, great feature

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billvortex:

try bt848

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Gumby:

am I needing to add a patch?

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Gumby:

yeah, I see bt848

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dagfinnr:

billvortex, ah,, maybe its the icons i see in the left corner..now i see RIP and a hammer..do you know what that does mean?

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billvortex:

dagfinnr, no I don't. Might want to look in the docs.

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billvortex:

Gumby, what card do you have?

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dagfinnr:

in another one is see RIP and a $ with the "forbidden" sign

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Gumby:

billvortex: a hauppauge wintv-go

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Gumby:

I have the bttv modules in other kernels and all is well

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billvortex:

Mulvane, yeah, you're really alone in what you're tring to do, so like, it's gonna involve a lot of research on your part to get working likely.

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billvortex:

Gumby, bt848 builds the bttv module

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Gumby:

hrm

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xris:

dagfinnr: $ means "no commercials"

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billvortex:

CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848: Support for BT848 based frame grabber/overlay boards. This includes the Miro, Hauppauge and STB boards. To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the module will be called bttv.

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dagfinnr:

thanks xris. do you know what the rip and hammer means?

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xris:

hammer I think means that it's being worked on. dunno about the RIP

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xris:

"no commercials" means that the commflag stuff has been done.

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xris:

there's likely a scissors for if there's a cutlist.

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dagfinnr:

k

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_willcooke_:

maybe RIP is something to do with auto expire?

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dagfinnr:

i dunno how it is in your contry..but here, the start of the recording is never right..always a cpl of minutes before it starts, and a cpl of minutes after..can i delete this in an easy way?

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_willcooke_:

oh yes!

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_willcooke_:

oh yes, they start out of time that is

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Gumby:

billvortex: there we go. I had previously done a make menuconfig and selected bt848 then ran a make modules but for some reason they werent created. I just ran it again and it seems to have worked this time

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_willcooke_:

dagfinnr, when you're playing a recording I think it's "e" that you press then you can set "cut points"

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xris:

e, then z to import the flag list as a cutlist

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_willcooke_:

are the flags created automatically by the ad detection?

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dagfinnr:

i dont think any flags is created..how can i check?

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billvortex:

_willcooke_, comflag is commerical flagging

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billvortex:

as for the cutlist, I donno quite how that is done via comflag.

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_willcooke_:

Is that a recording option, the comflag thing

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xris:

_willcooke_: I think commflag happens automatically

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_willcooke_:

ooo! That's very clever! Cool.

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dagfinnr:

now i did get a scissor when manually setting the cuts ( with e and z )

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dagfinnr:

mythcommflag is using a bunch of cpu

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xris:

dagfinnr: yup

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xris:

you'll want to verify those manual cutpoints.. it's only 80–90% accurate

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dagfinnr:

k

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dagfinnr:

strange that there isnt any progressbar or something

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heinola:

lol now i dont know what my sql root user is anymore lol

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_willcooke_:

oops

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billvortex:

why not root?

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heinola:

i dont have permittion anymore to connect to it

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billvortex:

with the correct password?

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billvortex:

mysql -u root -p?

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Russel-Athletic:

hiho

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Russel-Athletic:

i have a question: i want to use mythtv as recording (and transform to xvid) server only by webinterface, is it possibly to cut all other functions out or should i search for other software

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heinola:

of course now it works after 20 times lol

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billvortex:

or write your own? as likely there's not any software out there that does that.

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Russel-Athletic:

anybody a solution for my problem? or any other software i can use for this (it is not digital tv, that is why vdr is not so good)

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heinola:

syntax error /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql

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heinola:

brb

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Hoxzer:

lol, I just heard that TVoverScan is only supported by GF4 or newer cards :D

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T`:

hey.. does anyone have zap2it working??

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T`:

my mythfilldatabase has been giving me a 500 error since yesterday

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T`:

my tv guide info is also all empty now

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Gumby:

do you need to renew your subscription?

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T`:

hmm.. weird.. do they expire?

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Gumby:

yes

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T`:

ok i'll try that again

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Gumby:

you should have gotten an email at the adress you signed up with

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Gumby:

if that is the case

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Gumby:

I know I just had to renew mine

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T`:

Gumby, may be the email was something like dontspamme@spam.com ;)

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Gumby:

T`: then that was silly of you. You should have read the disclaimer

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Ediehow:

GreyFoxx: you there?

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T`:

hehe sorry.. wasn't aware it expires

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heinola:

syntax error line 18 withc is [client] but i dont see anything wronge as of yet

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T`:

Gumby, that seems to have been the prob.. thanks

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T`:

its updating now

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Gumby:

np

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Wabush:

Hi GreyFoxx!

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Ediehow:

i am not sure he's here

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Wabush:

oh! ok thanks!

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Wabush:

I was hoping I can talk with someone having a twinhan 1020a dvb-s, anyone here?

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jono:

_willcooke_, still here :)

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_willcooke_:

Yeah. I'm having to copy 100 gigs of video off this machine on to flippin dvds before I strip it for parts to get the under-the-telly-myth-box to work! :(

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jono:

heh

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Wabush:

anyone have successfully scanned Bell transponders with Myth?

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jono:

I am here to research some bugs I have discovered

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heinola:

well i am done for the night mesing with mysql

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heinola:

gn all

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_willcooke_:

good luck heinola

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heinola:

maby tommorro i can make a working db

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heinola:

sure i will

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jono:

what exactly is stored in the mysql database for myth? are there any settings, or just tv information?

[23:29:00]

heinola:

can i use another db server other than mysql ?

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xris:

heinola: not yet

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heinola:

:(

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xris:

it'll eventually be completely self-contained

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** xris doesn't understand why people have issues with mysql. **

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Ediehow:

xris: hi

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heinola:

mysql < mc.sql file not there

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xris:

heinola: huh?

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xris:

what's mc.sql?

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heinola:

i dont know really

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xris:

heinola: it's a sample file for creating the mythtv database.

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xris:

redora packages install it somewhere like: /usr/share/doc/mythtv-0.18/database/mc.sql

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xris:

and you'

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xris:

you'll likely want mysql -u root

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heinola:

bash-3.00$ mysql -u root -p

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heinola:

Enter password:

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heinola:

Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g.

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heinola:

Your MySQL connection id is 6 to server version: 4.1.14

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psofa__:

has anyone ever tried the osd menu of mplayer? can it do stuff like changing subs /audio /aspect ratio?

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jono:

any uk dudes in here?

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heinola:

not me

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heinola:

what does this do mysql > mc.sql ?

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Krazylegz:

heinola: Whoa, you don't want to do that.

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Krazylegz:

heinola: You want mysql < mc.sql

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heinola:

from within mysql as root

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heinola:

?

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jono:

my tv grabber keeps screwing up, and I am not sure if it is a db problem

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jonK:

heinola the ">" is an shell operator used to direct where information is sent

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jonK:

if you have information that would normally be presented in the shell window

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jonK:

">" sends it to a file

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jonK:

and ">>" appends the file

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jonK:

so ls > filelist

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jonK:

will create a file called filelist that contains the output of the ls command

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jonK:

it will also overwrite an existing file

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jonK:

so doing "mysql >mc.sql"

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frego:

Hi, I'm running Knoppmyth R5A26 on my backend and FC4 with myth as my frontend. I don't have a capture card in the frontend. Is it still possible to watch recordings from the backend on the frontend?

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jonK:

would probably be sub-optimal

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xris:

frego: that's sort of the point

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frego:

thanks, xris.. that's what I figured.

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jonK:

hi xris

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frego:

I keep getting the message, can't connect to the backend on the frontend machine.

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frego:

It's been config'd.. I've dug through the DB and I believe it's setup right too. (ie. took out 127.0.0.1 and put in real ip for backend server.)

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frego:

also been looking at the SQL logs on the backend and there's definitely a lot of queries and inserts and such (my permissions seem ok). going on the backend from the frontend

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frego:

but when I exit the frontend it tells me, "Connecting to backend server: localhost:6543"

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frego:

so somehow it's definitely confused and looking for localhost for something.

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frego:

I've got the my.cnf setup as per the documentation (to allow networking) and every occurance of sql.txt set with right dbhostname on the fe machine.

[23:49:00]

frego:

and that hostname is in my hosts file... so I'm pretty much at a loss

[23:50:00]

frego:

I'd really like to know where that message about "connecting to the backend server: localhost" is coming from.

[23:50:00]

frego:

anyone know how to do further debugging with that?

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jonK:

frego, let me understand, you have a frontend, a backend, and the frontend can't connect to the mysql database

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jonK:

and front/backends on different machines

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frego:

well... it connects at least partially as I can see the traffic and it successfully did a number of inserts into the various settings tables using it's hostname

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Ediehow:

on xp, multitasking while watching tv works fine, however, in linux, when i do it, it makes video playback choppy and stuttery

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frego:

but when I try to look at recordings or exit it does give me that message

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Ediehow:

??????

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Ediehow:

i am using latest ati driver, 2ghz athlon, radeon 9600

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dfgh:

How is it possible to use mythtv native lirc control, and at the same time not affecting mythtv while controlling mplayer with the remote? If I opened mplayer through myth and press any key, it'll affect myth as well.

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jonK:

so its mythfrondend that can't connect

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billvortex:

Ediehow, ati is an issue...

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frego:

jonK, right the frontend is giving errors about connecting

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billvortex:

Ediehow, ati's linux drivers... leave a lot to be desired...

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jonK:

do you have a frontend running on the backend machine as well?

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Ediehow:

billvortex: well, even with gpl drivers

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a1fa:

dfgh: no

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Ediehow:

same thing

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frego:

Yup.. the tuner card is in that machine.. it seems to be working ok

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Ediehow:

should usefasttls be on or off?

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frego:

( the backend)

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billvortex:

Ediehow, gpl drivers have no hardware accelleration.

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billvortex:

Ediehow, on

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Ediehow:

Option "ForceGenericCPU" "no"

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Ediehow:

?

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jonK:

ok, are you sure that the mysqldaemon is visible to the frontend?

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billvortex:

Ediehow, but that doesn't help with video, your cpu is doing all the work with the ati card

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jeroenimo:

allright . found out why mythtv doesnt install on my box. its a AMD64 bit :(

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Ediehow:

billvortex: i am using ati's driver now

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Ediehow:

so i should have acceleration, right?

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billvortex:

Ediehow, doesn't matter, you have xv but most of the work is still done via the cpu

[23:57:00]

Ediehow:

billvortex: err, ati's drivers don't have acceleration either?

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frego:

Jonk> Well I assume it is as when I fire up the frontend I see a lot of queries in sql.log on the backend

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dfgh:

a1fa: Ok. So I'll have to use irxevent, and maybe 'CurrentWindow'?

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frego:

where hostname="myfrontendbox"

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frego:

etx

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billvortex:

Ediehow, they have 3d accelleration and some xv accelleration (resizing), but no decoding accelleration, no

[23:58:00]

frego:

etc

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Ediehow:

oh yeah, i knew that

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Juski:

woo I got the neeeed for speed, man

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Ediehow:

mpeg hardware decoding, right?

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billvortex:

Ediehow, no, there is no hardware mpeg decoding on ati cards

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Juski:

jono I saw something you posted about your xmltv grabber being borked.. 'sup?

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Ediehow:

billvortex: are there plans?

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billvortex:

Ediehow, that is provided by something called XVMC and ATI does not support it.

[23:59:00]

Ediehow:

billvortex: then how does ati have hardware decoding in xp?

[23:59:00]

billvortex:

Ediehow, As far as I know, ATI has no plans to impliment it.

[23:59:00]

jeroenimo:

maybe I'll transfer the whole project to another PC

[23:59:00]

dfgh:

a1fa: maybe irxevent only on the buttons which interfere

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jonK:

for kicks, run namp <host> from the frontend, make sure mysql is listed

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billvortex:

Ediehow, they wrote it in to the xp drivers

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Juski:

Ediehow: ask ATI ;)

[23:59:00]

jonK:

i mean nmap

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Ediehow:

billvortex: well, there are no plans to write it into linux drivers?

[23:59:00]

billvortex:

Ediehow, the windows and linux drivers for ati are very different and have very different feature sets.

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