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    datetime:  2010-12-04 03:58:12 (UTC)
    errornum:  2
  error type:  Warning
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Wednesday, December 7th, 2005, 00:06 UTC
[00:06:00] dhofstra_: bt878
[00:06:00] dhofstra_: or software encoder?
[00:07:00] dhofstra_: damn
[00:07:00] dhofstra_: he gave us 4 min and left
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[00:10:00] dhofstra_: Screeeeech <-- that's the sound of my 18.1 coming to a dead halt because my distro uses gcc4
[00:11:00] dennis_p: yeah ubuntu guide also instruction me to install older gcc version
[00:12:00] sgentry6: how can i recompile the modules for lirc? i tried emerging the package again and that didn't seem to solve my problem – when I try to load the I get an error saying that it is an invalid module format
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[00:14:00] Ediehow: modules?
[00:14:00] Ediehow: i thought lirc support for mythtv was compiled in
[00:15:00] sgentry6: it was wierd I was able to load the modules I needed for my remote last week before I emerged mythtv
[00:16:00] sgentry6: now that I emerged it, i get an error when trying to add it in, but if I start mythtv i get an error from lirc and myth wont start
[00:21:00] sphing: dhofstra_: install gcc3 or switch distro
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[00:22:00] dhofstra_: yup
[00:22:00] dhofstra_: or go to svn, i suppose that might be working with 4... who knows
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[00:49:00] bobb: hello
[00:49:00] bobb: Anyone ever have mythrecipe segfault after it tries to setup initial tables?
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[00:50:00] kartoAWAY: yes
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[00:51:00] kartom: i managed to get mythmail and mythrecipes all compiled etc.. and it segfaults everytime it attempts to access the initial database
[00:52:00] bobb: Yeah, exactly. never got it to work?
[00:52:00] kartom: i haven't managed to find a solution
[00:52:00] bobb: I haven't been able to find anything about it anywhere either
[00:52:00] kartom: although i hadn't looked that hard..
[00:52:00] kartom: some googling
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[00:52:00] kartom: i think it's somethingto do with the versions...
[00:52:00] kartom: from previous version to .18
[00:53:00] kartom: database structure change..
[00:53:00] kartom: and the patches provided with mythextra plugins... doesn't help either
[00:53:00] bobb: the thing is, this version of mythrecipe claims to work with myth .18
[00:53:00] kartom: yeah, i was just saying that
[00:53:00] kartom: maybe it's buggy
[00:54:00] kartom: it hasn't been maintained for a long time
[00:54:00] bobb: :-(
[00:54:00] kartom: so maybe the author just hasn't got the time
[00:54:00] kartom: not had any time myself attempting to research it further
[00:54:00] kartom: sorry
[00:54:00] kartom: if you do manage it ...
[00:55:00] bobb: yeah. Well, thanks anyways. Good to know i'm not the only one to have the problem
[00:55:00] kartom: pls drop me / us a note
[00:55:00] kartom: :)
[00:55:00] bobb: sure thing
[00:55:00] kartom: no one else in the room, when i asked a few weeks ago could help either...
[00:55:00] kartom: it's not an official plug-in
[00:55:00] kartom: :)
[00:55:00] kartom: good luck
[00:55:00] bobb: thanks
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[01:04:00] ** poop returns with a goofy-ass blue "Enermax" PSU for his LC10M **
[01:10:00] Kelerion: LC04 here.. and I *love* that case.. lol
[01:10:00] poop: LC10M is very simple, but it had unhidden usb ports on the front
[01:11:00] poop: I plan to always have something plugged in.
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[01:15:00] poop: I wonder if I should slice up my raid and lvm it all.
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[01:21:00] webbnetsys: Any requirements for mythweb??
[01:21:00] webbnetsys: I am using suse 10.0
[01:21:00] _nero_: apache, and php
[01:22:00] _nero_: and php-mysql module.
[01:22:00] Kelerion: tcp/ip might be useful too :P
[01:22:00] _nero_: Kelerion, so would a kernel and a bootloader, but I am guessing he has those.. ;)
[01:22:00] webbnetsys: and getting the undefined function session_name()
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[01:22:00] ** Kelerion laughs **
[01:23:00] webbnetsys: _nero_: does it require php5
[01:23:00] Kelerion: am just being helpful! :)
[01:23:00] webbnetsys: instead of php4
[01:23:00] _nero_: webbnetsys, I dont think so..
[01:23:00] _nero_: no session_name.. humm.. is there a php session module?
[01:23:00] Kelerion: php4 works fine :)
[01:23:00] webbnetsys: I have it on two different servers, and bot don't work
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[01:24:00] Kelerion: you have a kernel and a bootloader, webbnetsys? just checking
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[01:24:00] _nero_: webbnetsys, you might have to enable php-sessions in /etc/php.ini
[01:24:00] webbnetsys: Hmm.
[01:25:00] webbnetsys: thought that was on by default
[01:25:00] _nero_: I did too..
[01:25:00] webbnetsys: But on the other server is our web server, and we do have sessions running.
[01:25:00] _nero_: never had a problem with getting sessions..
[01:25:00] webbnetsys: Let me check.
[01:25:00] _nero_: webbnetsys, svn or 0.18?
[01:26:00] Kelerion: session name is on by default on fc4
[01:26:00] Kelerion: I don't think it needs auto-start though
[01:26:00] _nero_: no, it doesnt..
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[01:27:00] _nero_: auto-start just does a session start before each php file execution..
[01:27:00] Kelerion: yup
[01:28:00] webbnetsys: _nero_: nope
[01:28:00] webbnetsys: it wasn't sett, but Iset it.'
[01:28:00] _nero_: did that help?
[01:28:00] webbnetsys: On our webserevr, we are funning Fedora with php4
[01:28:00] _nero_: (Session auto-start?? definitely dont set that..)
[01:29:00] _nero_: ls
[01:29:00] _nero_: did you create a php_sessions directory, and give apache RW permissions on it?
[01:29:00] webbnetsys: and getting :Fatal Error at /var/www/html/mythweb/includes/init.php, line 55:
[01:29:00] webbnetsys: Can't connect to the database server. Did you use the correct settings in config/conf.php?
[01:29:00] _nero_: well, did you?
[01:29:00] webbnetsys: But I can connect using mysql-client
[01:29:00] _nero_: ;)
[01:30:00] _nero_: ok... can you connect using mysql-client from the webserver?
[01:30:00] webbnetsys: I am normally not purplexed with crap like this.
[01:30:00] webbnetsys: yes.
[01:30:00] _nero_: (web server machine)
[01:30:00] _nero_: as the user mythtv?
[01:30:00] webbnetsys: yes.
[01:30:00] webbnetsys: can show tables;
[01:30:00] webbnetsys: etc.etc.
[01:30:00] _nero_: did you change the server setting in config/conf.php to your myth backend box? or is it still localhost?
[01:30:00] Kelerion: webbnetsys.. you on a different webserver to backend?
[01:31:00] webbnetsys: I would actually rather have the mythweb runnnig o nthis one, because we would beb ale to rercod fromo utside the network
[01:31:00] Kelerion: okies
[01:31:00] webbnetsys: Kelerion: Huh?
[01:31:00] _nero_: webbnetsys, if you cant get it running on this machine, you could get your firewall to forward port 81 to port 80 on the myth backend machine..
[01:31:00] webbnetsys: I just want to get one working.
[01:32:00] Kelerion: presuming from your last statement your backend isn't you webserver also
[01:32:00] _nero_: this isnt svn is it?
[01:32:00] webbnetsys: mythweb is running on 81?
[01:32:00] Kelerion: nope
[01:32:00] webbnetsys: Either way.
[01:33:00] _nero_: webbnetsys, no, but you can do a port forward from 81 on your firewall machine to port 80 on the mythbackend machine..
[01:33:00] webbnetsys: Having the php running on router, or port forwarding. eeither way.
[01:33:00] Kelerion: yeah. .what nero said
[01:33:00] webbnetsys: right
[01:33:00] webbnetsys: I just need help with the errors I am receiving.
[01:33:00] Kelerion: php running on router? huh?
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[01:34:00] _nero_: but once again, are you running SVN version of mythweb, or the 0.18 (latest release) version?
[01:34:00] webbnetsys: nero said there was a variable in php.ini
[01:34:00] _nero_: webbnetsys, not for your database settings..
[01:34:00] webbnetsys: Uh. the suse rpm.
[01:34:00] _nero_: for sessions..
[01:34:00] webbnetsys: for suse 10.0. I got from somplace in Germany.
[01:35:00] _nero_: ok.. and did you check the mythweb/config/config.php file, to see what the database server is set to?
[01:35:00] _nero_: (if it is an rpm it is probably 0.18)
[01:35:00] chris86wm: hey guys, i have myth set up but i cant get a picture. is there a way that i could go back and change up some of the settings that i did before?
[01:35:00] _nero_: chris86wm, sure, just run mythtv-setup again.
[01:36:00] chris86wm: at boot?
[01:36:00] _nero_: at any time..
[01:36:00] webbnetsys: so .18 is the latest
[01:36:00] _nero_: make sure the front end is stopped..
[01:36:00] _nero_: webbnetsys, yes.
[01:36:00] chris86wm: k
[01:36:00] webbnetsys: front end isn't running.
[01:37:00] Kelerion: webbnetsys.. yes or no.. you checked the config file for mythweb?
[01:37:00] webbnetsys: just backend, mysql, apache
[01:37:00] chris86wm: i hope my card is compatable
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[01:37:00] _nero_: webbnetsys, the frontend bit was for chris86wm
[01:37:00] chris86wm: lol
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[01:37:00] Kelerion: have you opened "mythweb/config/config.php" in a text editor and changed it's settings???
[01:37:00] webbnetsys: Oh.OK LOL
[01:37:00] _nero_: webbnetsys, vi or emacs or whatever /var/www/html/mythweb/config/config.php (or wherever it lies)
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[01:38:00] webbnetsys: Let me look for it.
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[01:38:00] Kelerion: thats a "no I haven't checked it".. so go look at it
[01:38:00] webbnetsys: Suse puts their crap in /srv/www/htdocs/ etc.
[01:38:00] webbnetsys: The only think I found was in the config file.
[01:38:00] _nero_: tell me what the line define('db_server', 'xxx'); says..
[01:38:00] webbnetsys: But all of the defaults look fine.
[01:39:00] webbnetsys: localhost
[01:39:00] _nero_: db_server is set to 'localhost'???
[01:39:00] webbnetsys: yes.
[01:39:00] Kelerion: they are definately *not* fine if you webserver isn't the same machine as your myth backend
[01:39:00] _nero_: you need to set that to whatever your backend machine's ip address is.
[01:39:00] webbnetsys: ok.
[01:39:00] webbnetsys: Let me try that.
[01:39:00] webbnetsys: dud.
[01:40:00] _nero_: ??
[01:40:00] webbnetsys: duh. I have already pointed that.
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[01:40:00] webbnetsys: I am still looking at trying to find out about the sessions error.
[01:40:00] Kelerion: worry about that var first
[01:40:00] _nero_: so now you are no longer getting the DB error, but are getting a sessions error?
[01:40:00] webbnetsys: but let me try the ip address on the fedora server.
[01:40:00] Kelerion: what have you set it to?
[01:40:00] _nero_: if you still have the db wrong, that can cause various other errors..
[01:41:00] webbnetsys: I had the name not ip address.
[01:41:00] chris86wm: for dishnetwork what channel frequency table should i use, or does it matter?
[01:41:00] _nero_: dns name?? or host name you have defined somewhere? or just any old name? ;)
[01:41:00] webbnetsys: sec
[01:41:00] _nero_: chris86wm, for dishnetwork, you wont be using a channel frequency..
[01:41:00] Kelerion: if your webserver has IP 192.168.1.10 and your myth backend has IP 192.168.1.20.. then on your config file for mythweb set the "define('db_server', 'define('db_server', 'xxx')')"
[01:42:00] Kelerion: oops
[01:42:00] chris86wm: _nero_, so just pick one and it doesnt matter?
[01:42:00] _nero_: chris86wm, yeah.. you wont be using the tuner at all..
[01:42:00] chris86wm: alright
[01:42:00] Kelerion: set the "define('db_server'" ro "define('db_server', '192.168.1.20')"
[01:42:00] Kelerion: I think my brain has stopped working
[01:43:00] Kelerion: at least I know what *I* mean.. lol
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[01:47:00] Kel-kippin: okies.. am heading off to bed
[01:47:00] Kel-kippin: nero.. will leave this to you :P
[01:47:00] Kel-kippin: see how nice I am?
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[01:47:00] chris86wm: hmm under "Video Source" in my input source menu it says "(none)" is that normal?
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[01:48:00] webbnetsys: _nero_: I put in the stuff into the init file instead of the configuration, and it still failed.
[01:49:00] webbnetsys: So it is isn't my configuration.
[01:49:00] _nero_: ???
[01:49:00] _nero_: webbnetsys, can you pastebin your config file?
[01:49:00] _nero_: config/config.php
[01:50:00] chris86wm: is it normal for the input connection to say "(Television)->(none)"
[01:51:00] chris86wm: does that mean that i dont have a connection?
[01:51:00] _nero_: chris86wm, not sure.. its been ages since I looked at mythtv-setup..
[01:51:00] _nero_: I'll look in a few minutes for ya, as I have a similar setup (directv --> card)
[01:51:00] chris86wm: do you know if the ati tv wonder cards work?
[01:52:00] _nero_: ahhh.. no.. they dont..
[01:52:00] _nero_: I dont think..
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[01:52:00] chris86wm: well i saw that it said the the all-in-wonder cards do not, but it said that the tv-wonder cards where different
[01:52:00] webbnetsys: define('db_host', '192.168.1.7');
[01:52:00] webbnetsys: define('db_username', 'mythtv');
[01:52:00] webbnetsys: define('db_password', 'mythtv');
[01:52:00] webbnetsys: define('db_dbname', 'mythconverg');
[01:52:00] _nero_: and you still get the same db error?
[01:52:00] webbnetsys: All the rest is the stuff
[01:53:00] chris86wm: "NOTE: The ATI TV Wonder series and the ATI All-in-Wonder series of cards
[01:53:00] chris86wm: are not the same. The All-in-Wonder cards will not work with MythTV."
[01:53:00] webbnetsys: right.
[01:53:00] webbnetsys: REMMEBER this is on a valud webserver that we use for developement.
[01:53:00] webbnetsys: we have globals turned on, in addition to using sessions.
[01:53:00] _nero_: chris86wm, maybe it will.. I'm not familiar at all with the ATI cards though, sorry..
[01:54:00] _nero_: webbnetsys, globals might be the problem.. you might want to put a .htaccess file in the mythweb directory turning globals off.
[01:54:00] _nero_: (you're talking magic globals, right?)
[01:54:00] webbnetsys: that might be it. I'll try sec.
[01:54:00] webbnetsys: globals, the bad globnals, yes.
[01:55:00] webbnetsys: we are in the process of moving all the code over.
[01:55:00] webbnetsys: to turn globals off, but you know how it is.
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[01:56:00] _nero_: webbnetsys, I sure do.. I do quite a bit of php dev myself..
[01:58:00] webbnetsys: Crap.
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[01:58:00] webbnetsys: I don't know is the deal.
[01:59:00] _nero_: still no go huh? No connecting to that databsae?
[02:00:00] _nero_: and you're sure you have given mythtv@webserver.ip permissions in full mysql to the database?
[02:00:00] webbnetsys: eevryybod on t heinternal network.
[02:00:00] webbnetsys: Butt hat isn't the issue.
[02:00:00] webbnetsys: I can connnect outisde the mythweb php webstuff.
[02:00:00] sona_: hats what I said, but permissions was the issue :)
[02:01:00] webbnetsys: I alwsys trouble shoot that first.
[02:02:00] _nero_: not sure then.. if there is a problem with php not being able to connect to the database it is one of three things- 1) misconfigure of server/username/pw in the settings, 2) there is no connection between the two machines, 3) mysql on the backend machine doesnt have the proper permissions..
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[02:03:00] chris86wm: well dang
[02:04:00] webbnetsys: hrm...
[02:04:00] webbnetsys: I think I am going to give up for now.
[02:05:00] webbnetsys: will try to hammer out stuff later.
[02:05:00] webbnetsys: thanks nero.
[02:05:00] webbnetsys: l8r
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[02:06:00] _nero_: webbnetsys, try this.
[02:06:00] _nero_: on the mythbackend machine..
[02:06:00] _nero_: go into mysql as the root user..
[02:07:00] _nero_: (mysql database) and SELECT `Host` FROM `db` WHERE db=`mythconverg`;
[02:07:00] _nero_: er
[02:07:00] _nero_: (mysql database) and SELECT `Host`,`User` FROM `db` WHERE db=`mythconverg`;
[02:08:00] webbnetsys: ok
[02:08:00] _nero_: doh... lets try that one more time..
[02:08:00] webbnetsys: let me add mythfrontend on the mythbox works fine, without a flaw. (Ezxcept I am still waiting on the video card)
[02:08:00] _nero_: SELECT `Host`,`User` FROM `db` WHERE Db=`mythconverg`;
[02:09:00] webbnetsys: But either way it is using localhost all the way.
[02:09:00] _nero_: yup..
[02:09:00] _nero_: problem is connecting from an outside server.
[02:09:00] webbnetsys: yeah.
[02:09:00] webbnetsys: well, of course the session crap on the mythbox.
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[02:10:00] webbnetsys: so it is either I get it working on the mythbox or get it working on the fedora box.
[02:10:00] webbnetsys: I am surprised that I am having problems with it on this end.
[02:11:00] webbnetsys: I would figure that I would be on the downhill.
[02:12:00] _nero_: that sql I gave you might not work.
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[02:12:00] _nero_: I am losign my mind tonight..
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[02:12:00] _nero_: SELECT Host, User FROM `db` WHERE db='mythconverg'
[02:12:00] _nero_: and unfortunately, I have to run..
[02:13:00] DeltaF: having problems with remote mysql?
[02:13:00] _nero_: webbnetsys is..
[02:14:00] DeltaF: ruled out firewall and selinux, right? :)
[02:14:00] webbnetsys: FIREWALL DISABLED
[02:15:00] webbnetsys: CRAP, I AM DOING THIS THROUGH VNC
[02:15:00] webbnetsys: SEC.
[02:15:00] DeltaF: which box is the mysql server?
[02:15:00] webbnetsys: Sorry bout the caps lock.
[02:16:00] webbnetsys: I am using vnc on the myth box.
[02:16:00] webbnetsys: DeltaF: the mythbox has everything running correctly, except for mythweb
[02:16:00] webbnetsys: in which I am getting a session problem.
[02:17:00] _nero_: webbnetsys, but mythweb is on another box, correct?
[02:17:00] webbnetsys: I am also trying to get mythweb on another fedora box running so I can record away from the house.
[02:17:00] webbnetsys: right.
[02:17:00] webbnetsys: on the fedora box, it isn't connecting at all.
[02:18:00] webbnetsys: And mythweb is complaining about the connection, BUT i CAN connect outside through mysql-client.
[02:18:00] webbnetsys: nero has gone through some troubleshooting stuff, and none of it is an issue.
[02:18:00] DeltaF: So it looks like a myth issue, not mysql issue?
[02:19:00] webbnetsys: It is definately a mythweb issue. not a myth issue or mysql issue.
[02:19:00] webbnetsys: globals turned off/on sessions turned on/off
[02:19:00] _nero_: webbnetsys, did you try the query I posted?
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[02:20:00] webbnetsys: I am on my desktop, now.
[02:20:00] webbnetsys: _nero_: sec.
[02:21:00] webbnetsys: too busy complaining.
[02:21:00] webbnetsys: LOl
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[02:23:00] webbnetsys: _nero_: its empty.
[02:23:00] _nero_: really???
[02:24:00] webbnetsys: It is added into user, but I am getting an empty set here:
[02:24:00] _nero_: do you have a mythconverg database?
[02:24:00] webbnetsys: yes.
[02:24:00] webbnetsys: But it looks like it didn't restrict the permissions to db.
[02:24:00] webbnetsys: It is in the usertable
[02:24:00] webbnetsys: though
[02:24:00] _nero_: strange..
[02:25:00] _nero_: if you have a mythtv user, and they dont have any permissions on the mythconverg db, I am suprised you can access it at all.
[02:25:00] webbnetsys: shoot, misspelled mythconverge
[02:25:00] _nero_: heh
[02:26:00] webbnetsys: mythconverg mythtv
[02:26:00] webbnetsys: there was another one in there called mythtvv, but I think that is from when I was messing around with it.
[02:26:00] _nero_: yeah.. that is what it should be..
[02:26:00] _nero_: anything listed?
[02:26:00] webbnetsys: listed??
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[02:27:00] _nero_: when you do the query I posted, with the correct spelling
[02:27:00] _nero_: or..
[02:27:00] _nero_: do you mean your myth database is mythconverge?
[02:27:00] webbnetsys: Oh yes.
[02:27:00] webbnetsys: mythconverge mythtv
[02:27:00] _nero_: ahhhh..
[02:27:00] _nero_: in your config/config.php file, you have to change the database name to mythconverge (it is mythconverg by default)
[02:28:00] _nero_: and now I really gotta run.. have to get to a meeting..
[02:28:00] _nero_: I'll bbiab though..
[02:28:00] _nero_: hope that helps a bit.
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[02:28:00] webbnetsys: Ok. Thanks for your help.
[02:28:00] webbnetsys: Oh OK.
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[02:55:00] EnterUse1Name: hi all
[02:55:00] EnterUse1Name: Why is my time zones set for the movie to start at 9:55–10:55
[02:55:00] EnterUse1Name: when the show starts at 10?
[02:56:00] EnterUse1Name: the time is messed up on my recording
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[02:57:00] Weezey: is there any way to record something that I'm watching live? I have it paused where I want to record it.
[02:57:00] NightMonkey: EnterUse1Name: Well, are your time zones settings correct on your box for where you are?
[02:57:00] EnterUse1Name: yup
[02:57:00] EnterUse1Name: But its not the time zones that are messed
[02:57:00] EnterUse1Name: its the times that the movie starts at
[02:58:00] EnterUse1Name: it says int he database it starts at 8:55
[02:58:00] EnterUse1Name: when it really starts at 9:00
[02:58:00] NightMonkey: EnterUse1Name: Hmm, you using zap2it?
[02:58:00] EnterUse1Name: yup
[02:58:00] EnterUse1Name: im using zap2it
[02:58:00] NightMonkey: EnterUse1Name: Well, you could file a schedule discrepancy at the forums at labs.zap2it.com. They're pretty responsive, in my experience.
[02:58:00] EnterUse1Name: i just realized why i miss half the show
[02:59:00] EnterUse1Name: ok thanx nightmonkey'
[02:59:00] NightMonkey: But, it is normal nowadays for content providers to add 5 minutes to shows to annoy PVR users.
[02:59:00] Weezey: bastards
[02:59:00] EnterUse1Name: well actually
[02:59:00] EnterUse1Name: they START the time 5 minuts before
[02:59:00] EnterUse1Name: well zapit records it for 5 minutes befor
[03:00:00] NightMonkey: EnterUse1Name: Yes, that's what I said.
[03:00:00] teevee: anyone here ever use qdvdauthor? I opened an .mpg created by nuvexport-dvd in qdvdauthor, but after closing it and reopening qdvdauthor because it screwed something up it wouldn't open the same .mpg, just says "error" next to the .mpg
[03:01:00] NightMonkey: teevee: I like DVD Styler, myself.
[03:01:00] teevee: NightMonkey: otay :)
[03:02:00] NightMonkey: teevee: I didn't like the weird error handling of qdvdauthor, but it has been a while since I used it.
[03:02:00] teevee: NightMonkey: i'm emerging dvdstyler
[03:02:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Make sure to get the latest.
[03:02:00] teevee: qdvdauthor seems like ass
[03:02:00] teevee: NightMonkey: 0.4?
[03:03:00] NightMonkey: teevee: 1.5_beta2
[03:03:00] teevee: far out
[03:03:00] teevee: damn, 1.4 is the only one in portage
[03:03:00] NightMonkey: teevee: I still need to reference their docs to really "get it", but their interface makes a bit more sense to this poor brain.
[03:04:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Yeah, I had to make an ebuild in the overlay.
[03:04:00] teevee: think 1.4 might work? I'm really not in the mood to compile anything by hand right now
[03:04:00] teevee: or do that either
[03:04:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Sure, it'll work. But the new features in 1.5_b2 are really nice.
[03:04:00] teevee: do you know of anything wrong with 1.4?
[03:04:00] teevee: oh
[03:04:00] NightMonkey: teevee: I like the fact that fonts don't look all blocky on the DVDs, and the better image handling.
[03:05:00] NightMonkey: teevee: But, no, nothing flat out broken, in my expeirence.
[03:05:00] teevee: what i really need to do instead is finish building computers for all the other tvs here that don't have one yet
[03:05:00] NightMonkey: teevee: qdvdauthor seemed more, well, "rickety" to me.
[03:05:00] teevee: so i can just run mythfrontend on them :)
[03:05:00] NightMonkey: teevee: There you go :).
[03:06:00] teevee: qdvdauthor is quite a bit broken for me right now, from the second try on
[03:06:00] teevee: I have four computers capable of it but they're shitty gateways with proprietary AGP slots
[03:06:00] teevee: regular shaped AGP cards don't fit
[03:06:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Do check out the docs for DVD Styler. The authors really made an extra effort  – very good quality, in my opinion.
[03:07:00] teevee: NightMonkey: i appreciate the insight
[03:07:00] NightMonkey: teevee: No sweat :).
[03:07:00] teevee: wonder if I can burn to an external dvd on /dev/sda
[03:08:00] teevee: because i have a dvd burner in an external usb 2.0 enclosure right now
[03:08:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Do you have a PVR-x50 card? Or a card that makes Mpeg2 captures?
[03:08:00] teevee: yeah, 150, why?
[03:08:00] teevee: hauppauge pvr150mce
[03:08:00] NightMonkey: Ah.
[03:08:00] teevee: dunno about mpeg2 though, all that myth makes is .nuv
[03:09:00] teevee: afaik
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[03:09:00] NightMonkey: I have a guide: https://www.ilikelinux.com/howto/pvr3502dvd
[03:09:00] teevee: i used nuvexport-dvd to make the .mpg
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[03:10:00] Weezey: can you open that mpeg in windows?
[03:10:00] NightMonkey: teevee: You know, the nuv is actually an mpg file – if you just copy the file to <filename>.mpg, it'll make happy any app that cares about the extension.
[03:10:00] teevee: NightMonkey: damn
[03:10:00] teevee: NightMonkey: wtf do they have nuvexport-dvd for then?
[03:11:00] teevee: except to waste six hours
[03:11:00] teevee: i'm looking at that site
[03:11:00] NightMonkey: teevee: I like <mythtvsource>/contribs/mythlink.sh to make symlinks. I modified it to make an .mpg symlink, for sharing to windows/other PCs.
[03:11:00] teevee: what's this about * record using DVD profile on PVRx50 ??
[03:11:00] NightMonkey: teevee: For people without PVR-x50 cards.
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[03:12:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Yeah, I use "DVD Special 2".
[03:12:00] teevee: NightMonkey: you don't have a pvr-x50?
[03:12:00] NightMonkey: teevee: No, I do.
[03:12:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Er, yes, I do have a 350.
[03:12:00] teevee: i thought I saw mine was set to record at 480x480
[03:12:00] teevee: i don't remember where i saw that though
[03:13:00] teevee: shouldn't it be different for dvd?
[03:13:00] NightMonkey: teevee: 720x480 is optimal, I believe.
[03:13:00] NightMonkey: teevee: That's the native NTSC resolution.
[03:13:00] teevee: i'll see if i can find that in mythfrontend settings
[03:14:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Hmm. I think it might be in the mythtv-setup. But I should doc that. :)
[03:15:00] GreyFoxx: 704x 720x 352x are all valid. But 720x480 is by far the most common
[03:16:00] teevee: thanks, i'll see if i can find it in mythsetup
[03:16:00] NightMonkey: GreyFoxx: Is 480x480? Or does some scaling happen?
[03:16:00] GreyFoxx: I don't believe 480x480 is one of the valid dvd resolutions
[03:17:00] teevee: nope, wasn't in mythsetup
[03:17:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Yeah, I want to absolutely avoid having to re-encode the video, and the doc should reflect that.
[03:17:00] NightMonkey: hmm
[03:19:00] teevee: this is a good time to once again state that there should be more information on each menu screen
[03:20:00] afrosheenix: every time I try to transcode anything it fails
[03:21:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Ah, it is in Setup->TV Settings->Recording Profiles->MPEG-2 Encoders (PVR-250, PVR-350)-><Profile name>
[03:22:00] NightMonkey: teevee: It has to be set for each profile you want to use for DVDs.
[03:22:00] afrosheenix: also mythburn works fine but the dvd's are unplayable on any standard dvd player past the menu
[03:22:00] teevee: i found it
[03:22:00] teevee: it's in some obscure place
[03:23:00] teevee: NightMonkey: should i use MPEG2 PS or DVD?
[03:24:00] teevee: for the stream type
[03:24:00] GreyFoxx: PS is fine, I don't think setting it to DVD really does anything other than set it to PS
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[03:24:00] bigslam: yo does myth work with dvi?
[03:25:00] GreyFoxx: ummm huh ?
[03:25:00] NightMonkey: teevee: I use "DVD Special 2". Haven't tested anything else.
[03:25:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Thanks for your input – I updated the doc. :)
[03:25:00] GreyFoxx: bigslam: with DVI output of your video card ?
[03:25:00] bigslam: hmm sure or 1080i
[03:26:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Are you running 0.18.1? Or SVN?
[03:26:00] teevee: NightMonkey: ok, sure :)
[03:26:00] GreyFoxx: Myth has no knowledge of the connector type in use. Be it vga, dvi, svideo, etc
[03:26:00] teevee: 0.18.1 i think
[03:26:00] teevee: i emerged it
[03:26:00] bigslam: hmm does the mythtv menu run 1080i? or look sharp?
[03:26:00] NightMonkey: afrosheenix: I'd say it doesn't work, then. :)
[03:27:00] teevee: NightMonkey: i know you said you didn't test it, but do you know any differences between DVD, DVD Special 1, and DVD Special 2?
[03:27:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Cool, that's what I use.
[03:27:00] GreyFoxx: bigslam: That's really an X configuration thing. Myth will scale to whatever resolution X is set to
[03:27:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Not really. It might be in the mythtv.org/docs, though.
[03:27:00] GreyFoxx: But I've never seen X/Myth at 1080i so I don't know how clean it looks
[03:27:00] teevee: NightMonkey: i'm already having a problem with dvd styler
[03:28:00] NightMonkey: teevee: What's up?
[03:28:00] GreyFoxx: There are a couple widescreen themes which use 1280x720 images which should look fine at 1080
[03:28:00] teevee: "No handler found for image type" when i try to drag the .mpg over
[03:28:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Does it have .mpg as the extension?
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[03:28:00] teevee: yes
[03:29:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Hmm. What does file <mpg file> say?
[03:29:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Er "file <mpeg file>"
[03:29:00] teevee: MPEG sequence, v2, program multiplex
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[03:30:00] orion2012_: How long does it take an xbox frontend to boot?
[03:30:00] NightMonkey: teevee: Hmm.... I used dvdstyler 1.31 previously – dunno if 1.4 has some "issues".
[03:30:00] teevee: NightMonkey: you mentioned something about creating symlinks for .mpg, how can I tell which file is which under /var/video? they're all like 2037_20051125190000_20051125193000.nuv
[03:31:00] teevee: NightMonkey: i have a feeling qdvdauthor corrupted the .mpg
[03:31:00] NightMonkey: teevee: I use the <mythtv source>/contrib/mythlink.sh script.
[03:31:00] NightMonkey: teevee: It isn't installed with the Gentoo ebuilds – you have to download the source and extract it.
[03:31:00] teevee: oh
[03:31:00] teevee: i have the source in distfiles
[03:31:00] teevee: i can unpack that
[03:32:00] EnterUse1Name: is there any new features in the mythtv svn tree
[03:32:00] EnterUse1Name: in the last 2 weeks
[03:32:00] GreyFoxx: go read the commits list and find out :)
[03:32:00] EnterUse1Name: lol
[03:32:00] EnterUse1Name: I never could find the commits list where is it
[03:33:00] teevee: mplayer plays said .mpg just fine
[03:33:00] GreyFoxx: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-commits/
[03:33:00] GreyFoxx: Follow the "Lists" link off the mythtv.org mainsite :)
[03:33:00] EnterUse1Name: thanx greyfox
[03:33:00] teevee: NightMonkey: i guess i could google mythlink.sh to find out how to use it
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[03:36:00] bigslam: hmm a 300 foot dvi-d fiber optic cable is $2,000
[03:37:00] NightMonkey: Sorry, workstation crashed :(
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[03:39:00] NightMonkey: teevee: So, DVD Styler won't allow you to drag your mpg to the "workspace" at the bottom of the window?
[03:43:00] NightMonkey: teevee: 'lo?
[03:44:00] NightMonkey: Oh well.
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[04:01:00] nuonguy: hi
[04:02:00] phoner: heh, mythburn has one weird install script
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[04:17:00] systest: Anyone here have a myth RPM source for SUSE 10.0?
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[04:45:00] GorgJr: hey, is having a Live TV buffer of 1GB and Minimum free Live TV buffer of 1MB a good idea?
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[04:51:00] GorgJr: because my video is very jittery
[04:52:00] GorgJr: like freezes and jumps every second
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[05:06:00] pembo13: what is the recommened format for transcoding recordings to?
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[05:10:00] topping: nuonguy: yum install worked fine tonight
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[05:18:00] topping: gar, no sound
[05:18:00] topping: sound card working, but mythfrontend doesn't seem to be getting it
[05:19:00] topping: never experienced this before
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[05:41:00] cwsmith: anyone here know how to fix the blank program_listing.php problem
[05:42:00] cwsmith: PHP Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 35 bytes) in /var/www/html/mythweb/includes/programs.php on line 349, referer: http://192.168.254.207/mythweb/program_listing.php?time=567894
[05:43:00] cwsmith: thats the error in my error log file for apache
[05:43:00] cwsmith: so um ....
[05:43:00] cwsmith: lost
[05:43:00] cwsmith: lol
[05:43:00] topping: running out of memory?
[05:44:00] cwsmith: ya actually i think i figure it out i think i am loading too much data to apache
[05:44:00] cwsmith: i think if i increase the size of allowed memory in apache it should work :)
[05:44:00] cwsmith: key word i think
[05:45:00] cwsmith: wonder if its php.ini or httpd.conf ?
[05:47:00] cwsmith: well its php.ini :)
[05:47:00] cwsmith: yep problem fixed
[05:47:00] cwsmith: time to pass on to other people :)
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[05:48:00] cwsmith: guess i had to much data loading somehow
[05:48:00] topping: have you ever set up multiple tuner cards?
[05:48:00] cwsmith: no but i am getting ready to set up two :)
[05:48:00] cwsmith: now that i have everything else working finally
[05:49:00] cwsmith: Using FC4
[05:49:00] cwsmith: here
[05:49:00] topping: i have one dual tuner card and one single tuner card
[05:49:00] topping: it's a bit confusing to say the least
[05:49:00] cwsmith: ya lol
[05:49:00] topping: one card is not hard tho
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[05:58:00] topping: hmm 'mplayer /dev/video0' doesn't have any sound either
[05:59:00] GorgJr: what vid card
[05:59:00] topping: capture or video?
[06:00:00] topping: capture is a Hauppauge PVR-150, video is some ATI thing
[06:01:00] topping: actually i have a PVR-150 in one slot and a PVR-500 in another
[06:01:00] topping: video comes in fine, mplayer reports ALSA, but no sound, and I know the sound card works because system sounds play
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[06:12:00] topping: wow this is strange. can i tell if a stream has sound?
[06:12:00] topping: maybe the card is weird
[06:12:00] topping: (capture card)
[06:14:00] topping: aha, it is the capture card
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[06:21:00] poop: I added a sata drive and now grub won't boot
[06:21:00] poop: Booting peecees is hard.
[06:21:00] poop: Let's go shopping.
[06:21:00] nuonguy: what kind of mobo?
[06:22:00] poop: athlon64
[06:22:00] nuonguy: dfi? ecs? abit?
[06:22:00] poop: DFI
[06:22:00] poop: This silverstone case is pretty damn loud.
[06:22:00] nuonguy: lanparty rev a?
[06:22:00] poop: Some microatx thing with firewire.
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[06:25:00] nuonguy: how far do you get into the boot proces?
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[06:28:00] nuonguy: topping: cool that yum worked
[06:28:00] topping: :)
[06:28:00] topping: still strange i didn't get an error
[06:28:00] nuonguy: yeah
[06:28:00] nuonguy: I don't get it
[06:29:00] nuonguy: So, I had poop's exact problem once with a DFI Lanparty mother board
[06:30:00] nuonguy: Install Fedora on /dev/hda, everyhting's great
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[06:30:00] nuonguy: Add a SATA drive
[06:30:00] nuonguy: Suddenly no worky
[06:30:00] nuonguy: Turns out, on that specific revision of that motherboard, you could use only that solitary SATA port, or you could use the IDE ports
[06:30:00] nuonguy: not both
[06:31:00] poop: haha
[06:31:00] nuonguy: That's whay I thought
[06:31:00] nuonguy: Then I started crying
[06:31:00] poop: bah, send it back, get a computer
[06:31:00] nuonguy: Already done did that
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[06:32:00] kormoc: nuonguy, one thing I've found with mine is, I had to put it in legacy mode, in sata mode and the ide controlers still were up, even with sata
[06:32:00] kormoc: but mine is a msi board
[06:32:00] nuonguy: legacy mode?
[06:32:00] kormoc: yeah, legacy vs native mode
[06:33:00] kormoc: legacy drive support mode, vs native sata only mode
[06:33:00] poop: I disabled SATA in the BIOS screen and now it boots.`
[06:34:00] ** poop boggles **
[06:34:00] nuonguy: yep\
[06:35:00] nuonguy: try bios up grade?
[06:35:00] nuonguy: didn't know about native vs legacy
[06:36:00] nuonguy: bios setting?
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[06:38:00] kormoc: yeah, it's a bios option on my mobo at least
[06:38:00] poop: Looks like I have the latest bios.
[06:38:00] nuonguy: yell at tech support!
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[06:43:00] topping: i think i fried this PVR-150
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[06:44:00] nuonguy: why do you think so?
[06:44:00] topping: well, the PVR-500 in the slot next to it works just fine
[06:45:00] topping: it will encode ant races, but won't tune channels
[06:45:00] topping: got the sound working, i forgot to put HcwMakoA.ROM in
[06:46:00] topping: i guess i could try removing the 500 from the system before sending it in
[06:46:00] kormoc: topping, might wanna try with just the 150 and see if you can get it wokring
[06:46:00] ** topping unscrews system **
[06:49:00] nuonguy: Anyone know how to delete shows from the menu that aren't really there?
[06:49:00] topping: so i just renewed my zap2it listings last night, i guess the servers are getting hammered in the middle of the night and they want people to start downloading in the day
[06:49:00] nuonguy: heh
[06:49:00] nuonguy: What I mean, is, I GUI over to my recorded shows, I try to delete them, anf of course I cannot
[06:50:00] nuonguy: I look at the consle, it keep ssaying "Error: File missing"
[06:50:00] topping: maybe create a dummy file and then try to delete it?
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[06:51:00] topping: bummer, tuner seems dead, doesn't work when it is alone in the system either
[06:51:00] topping: it's been banging around during the move tho
[06:53:00] nuonguy: topping: What would I call the file?
[06:53:00] topping: there's a trick to that... you have to concatenate a bunch of different numbers
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[06:54:00] topping: maybe you could search the database to find the entry?
[06:54:00] topping: or maybe the filename isn't in the entry
[06:54:00] nuonguy: The files have like 1004 1002 prepended to them
[06:55:00] nuonguy: Looks like just a date range with that number prepended
[06:55:00] nuonguy: What's that number mean?
[06:55:00] topping: the first four is the channel number
[06:55:00] topping: then after that, I can't remember
[06:56:00] nuonguy: is it perhaps 1000+channel?
[06:56:00] topping: <chanid>_<starttime>_<endtime>.nuv
[06:56:00] nuonguy: yeah
[06:56:00] topping: did you look in /lost_and_found ?
[06:56:00] topping: oh, but i guess that wouldn't have a filename
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[07:01:00] bsm117531: So, can anyone tell me why mythtvbackend + mythfrontend + mysqld are using more than 500MB? My system swaps like crazy.
[07:02:00] nuonguy: k
[07:02:00] nuonguy: Here's what you do
[07:03:00] bsm117531: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
[07:03:00] bsm117531: 24086 mcelrath 15 0 208m 121m 14m S 23.3 24.0 2:20.28 mythfrontend
[07:03:00] bsm117531: 20353 mythtv 15 0 210m 48m 11m S 40.9 9.6 249:22.69 mythbackend
[07:03:00] bsm117531: 17399 mysql 16 0 115m 15m 2360 S 0.0 3.0 1:26.35 mysqld
[07:03:00] nuonguy: sorry, bsm117531: don't know
[07:03:00] bsm117531: is this unusual?
[07:03:00] bsm117531: or is mythtv just a massive hog?
[07:03:00] nuonguy: To delete those shows: start mythfrontend from a konsole session so that stdout is your output
[07:03:00] nuonguy: GUI to a TV show
[07:04:00] topping: is there a way to delete a single capture card in mythtv-setup?
[07:04:00] topping: ahhh, 'd'
[07:05:00] nuonguy: um, for a second there it was telling me on the konse: Could not find 1004_<date>_<date>.nuv
[07:05:00] nuonguy: I was just saying 'touch' that file and then voila! Erase using the GUI
[07:06:00] nuonguy: No working right now
[07:06:00] nuonguy: what gives?
[07:06:00] nuonguy: I have a bunch of these
[07:07:00] nuonguy: bsm117531: How ddid you generate that table?
[07:07:00] nuonguy: ps
[07:07:00] nuonguy: ?
[07:07:00] bsm117531: top.
[07:07:00] nuonguy: then hit m?
[07:07:00] bsm117531: yes
[07:09:00] nuonguy: http://pastebin.com/452098
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[07:11:00] topping: dammit, they dropped "super milk chan" since the last time i had a cable hookup
[07:11:00] bsm117531: nuonguy: do you know what mythbackend is using?
[07:11:00] nuonguy: bsm117531: http://pastebin.com/452099 :
[07:12:00] bsm117531: ok a little lower than me but still a hell of a lot.
[07:12:00] bsm117531: Mythbackend should be grabbing frames and dumping them to disk. Why does that take 200M?
[07:12:00] nuonguy: yeah
[07:12:00] nuonguy: ?
[07:12:00] kormoc: it doesn't
[07:12:00] nuonguy: How much RAM in your machine?
[07:12:00] bsm117531: 512M
[07:12:00] kormoc: the virtual isn't actually used percey
[07:13:00] kormoc: the Res and SHR is the important ones
[07:13:00] bsm117531: I know, but if you turn on the SHR field, the actual usage is close to VIRT-SHR.
[07:13:00] bsm117531: and SHR is ~10MB for these processes.
[07:16:00] kormoc: the virt includes cached files as well, iirc
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[07:16:00] kormoc: so it's caching ~190 megs of recordings, but that's 'free' memory if it's ever needed
[07:16:00] Flimzy: Has anyone here successfully compiled mythtv with firewire support?
[07:17:00] bsm117531: kormoc: that's inexcusable.
[07:17:00] kormoc: bsm117531, ooh? why's that?
[07:17:00] bsm117531: There's no need to cache streaming recordings.
[07:17:00] bsm117531: It's a kernel problem, I've looked at this before...
[07:17:00] kormoc: bsm117531, how's the kernel to know it's a streaming record?
[07:17:00] bsm117531: O_STREAMING
[07:18:00] bsm117531: ooh http://www.nexusuk.org/projects/mythtv/patches/o_streaming
[07:19:00] bsm117531: rather old. What became of this?
[07:21:00] nuonguy: bsm117531: what do you do for a living?
[07:21:00] kormoc: I don't have O_STREAMING in my kernel includes
[07:21:00] bsm117531: theoretical physics.
[07:21:00] nuonguy: fun
[07:21:00] bsm117531: It's an experimental patch from ~3 years ago, was never accepted into mainline kernel.
[07:21:00] bsm117531: linux still sucks for streaming because they haven't dealt with it.
[07:21:00] kormoc: no, that patch is for mythtv
[07:21:00] kormoc: ooh
[07:21:00] kormoc: I see
[07:21:00] kormoc: nm
[07:21:00] bsm117531: O_STREAMING requires a kernel patch too.
[07:22:00] bsm117531: I'm looking for a more modern patch, since mythtv does set the O_STREAMING flag if it is defined.
[07:22:00] kormoc: yeah
[07:22:00] bsm117531: nuonguy: why?
[07:23:00] nuonguy: need a job?
[07:23:00] kormoc: is it a job at cern?
[07:23:00] nuonguy: no
[07:23:00] kormoc: drat
[07:23:00] nuonguy: it's a programming/linux job
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[07:24:00] bsm117531: no, I'm rather happy with my job. thanks.  ;)
[07:24:00] bsm117531: I don't work at CERN now, but I used to.
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[07:26:00] Bonkers: so what could i have done wrong with this mythweb install? apache2 and php5 are installed, php is enable, AllowOverride All, .htaccess in place, my password setup worked using basic auth, but when I try to load up mythweb in a browser, I just get a completely blank page
[07:26:00] Bonkers: if I try going directly to program_listings.php, same thing
[07:26:00] Bonkers: got the right db server address/login in .htaccess also
[07:26:00] Ginsu_Squirrel: anything in the apache log?
[07:26:00] Bonkers: nope
[07:27:00] kormoc: Bonkers, there's an odd issue with php5 just silently dieing rather then returning an error...
[07:28:00] Bonkers: the mythweb readme said something about mod_env though, and that doesn't seem to exist with apache2 on debian
[07:28:00] Bonkers: either that or you just can't disable it
[07:28:00] Bonkers: and I was just using php4 and upgraded to php5
[07:28:00] kormoc: it does, it's just built in
[07:28:00] Bonkers: figured that would fix it
[07:28:00] kormoc: Bonkers, apache2 -l will list the built in modules
[07:29:00] Bonkers: yep, it's there
[07:30:00] Bonkers: I also made sure to enable mod_rewrite
[07:32:00] Bonkers: ok, it's gotta be something with the .htaccess
[07:32:00] Bonkers: I get a blank page for anything in the directory whether it exists or not
[07:32:00] Bonkers: and i just went back to php4
[07:36:00] nuonguy: I have an saa7134 tuner card as /dev/video1 and I have an ivtv tuner card as /dev/video0
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[07:36:00] nuonguy: I can use mplayer/tvtime to watch them sepearately
[07:37:00] nuonguy: I can run mythtv and watch tv and record shows
[07:37:00] nuonguy: What I cannot do is watch or record using the /dev/video1 saa7134 tuner
[07:37:00] nuonguy: Why?
[07:38:00] Bonkers: so no more ideas on the mythweb problem?
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[07:46:00] Flimzy: main.cpp:(.text+0x1e2): undefined reference to `std::basic_string<char, std::cha
[07:46:00] Flimzy: r_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >::_S_empty_rep_storage'
[07:46:00] Flimzy: Does this mean I'm missing some needed dev librarires?
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[07:54:00] eiggirC: awww buggerit – the saa7134 depends on a sound card
[07:54:00] eiggirC: all I want is a simple frame grabber
[07:54:00] eiggirC: *grump*
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[08:00:00] Flimzy: what's the trick to getting myth to compile on amd64?
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[08:22:00] nuonguy: Flimzy: I couldn't even get forcedeth to work on x86_64
[08:22:00] nuonguy: So I'm just running i386 on my athlon64
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[08:28:00] Juski: good morning
[08:29:00] Xenna: nuonguy: I'm doing the same thing
[08:29:00] Xenna: Fedora i386 on an amd64
[08:29:00] Xenna: Morning juski
[08:29:00] Xenna: My colleague likes your theme
[08:31:00] nuonguy: Where did you setup fail?
[08:31:00] nuonguy: Er, I mean, what was it that made you go i386 in and64?
[08:31:00] Xenna: I just installed according to the myth on Fedora howto
[08:32:00] nuonguy: What kind of motherboard?
[08:32:00] Juski: Xenna: cool :)
[08:32:00] nuonguy: Did you try x86_64?
[08:32:00] Juski: some of the graphics I used _might_ have to change though
[08:32:00] Xenna: It all seemed pretty unstablke, mythfrontend crashed on startup unless I deleted all pulugins
[08:32:00] nuonguy: You got further than I did
[08:33:00] Xenna: Coulda been just a typo though
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[08:33:00] Xenna: I didn't compile
[08:33:00] Xenna: I have a MSI Neo2 motherboard Socket 939
[08:33:00] ** nuonguy ECS nForce3 **
[08:34:00] Xenna: The i386 stuff works well except that my PVR350 and PVR500 won't work together
[08:34:00] Xenna: nforce3 yes
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[08:40:00] nuonguy: any hope of ever getting MythFM integrated into the myth source tree?
[08:40:00] nuonguy: http://mythextra.napsi.net/mythFM.html
[08:42:00] Chutt: not until it's written properly, no.
[08:42:00] nuonguy: How does it need to be written?
[08:42:00] Chutt: integrated into mythmusic.
[08:42:00] nuonguy: The current patch doesn't seem to work against 0-18-fixes
[08:42:00] nuonguy: As opposed to?
[08:42:00] Chutt: not my problem.
[08:42:00] Chutt: completely separate?
[08:42:00] nuonguy: Oh
[08:43:00] nuonguy: wait
[08:43:00] nuonguy: I don't quite get it
[08:43:00] Juski: it's probably worth someone taking a look it it
[08:43:00] nuonguy: You're saying it should be just a mythplugin
[08:43:00] nuonguy: or added to mythmusic?
[08:43:00] nuonguy: Why did he do it this way?
[08:44:00] nuonguy: Anyone in touch with him?
[08:44:00] Juski: it's probably not a good thing to have all these myriad plugins.. think how big the menus could end up!
[08:44:00] nuonguy: He has a suggestions link: http://mythextra.napsi.net/suggestions.html
[08:44:00] Chutt: i've told him before.
[08:44:00] nuonguy: Does he have a reason, good or bad, for doing it the way he did
[08:44:00] nuonguy: ?
[08:44:00] Chutt: the patch is just a hack
[08:44:00] Chutt: it's not done properly
[08:45:00] Chutt: it also needs to have hooks into the backend so it doesn't break recording tv, either.
[08:45:00] nuonguy: That's a downer
[08:45:00] nuonguy: I didn't know about that
[08:45:00] nuonguy: Kinda defeats the purpose
[08:46:00] nuonguy: Are there any other contenders for the job of an FM Radio plugin?
[08:46:00] Chutt: no.
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[08:46:00] Juski: that's a little holiday project for somebody, eh?
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[08:47:00] Juski: I'm eagerly watching the progress of DVB radio recording to see how that's coming along
[08:47:00] nuonguy: Do you have an API that I could program to, to write an FM Radio app/plugin?
[08:47:00] Chutt: uh, yes?
[08:48:00] nuonguy: V4L or something like that?
[08:48:00] Juski: nuonguy: everything is very well documented
[08:48:00] Juski: there's even a 'how to write for mythtv' guide somewhere
[08:48:00] nuonguy: Even how to talk to an ivtv/saa7134 radio device?
[08:48:00] nuonguy: Sorry – I've barely programmed in Linux
[08:48:00] Juski: now _that_ you might need to borrow from mythFM ;)
[08:49:00] Chutt: generally, if someone asks those types of questions, they're not going to be doing anything :p
[08:49:00] nuonguy: I'm not going to do anything
[08:50:00] Juski: if someone who can code wants it badly enough, they'll work on it
[08:51:00] nuonguy: Not me
[08:51:00] nuonguy: I'm just going to keep asking someone else to do it
[08:51:00] nuonguy: :-)
[08:51:00] Juski: lol
[08:52:00] nuonguy: So Juski, how would you feel about writing an FM radio myth plugin?
[08:52:00] nuonguy: :-())
[08:52:00] Juski: I can barely code, but I wouldn't mind having a go
[08:53:00] nuonguy: How about you, Chutt?
[08:53:00] Juski: thing is, doing it without breaking anything won't be easy
[08:53:00] Chutt: uh, no.
[08:53:00] nuonguy: No worries there! Myth has a great nightly build / test regression suite already built! Just run that!
[08:53:00] nuonguy: right, Chutt?
[08:54:00] Chutt: yup
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[08:55:00] Juski: bear in mind that it took me a whole weekend to write a small (working) patch for the DBOX2 EPG stuff... and that was just adding one function
[08:55:00] nuonguy: Could I create an SVN branch and get that build and tested nightly?
[08:55:00] Chutt: no.
[08:55:00] Bonkers: why not just test it on your own computer?
[08:56:00] nuonguy: I've never worked on any open source project, so please forgive the dumm questions and say RTFM if all these questions are answered
[08:56:00] nuonguy: Well, cuz, like, at work, if I do a commit, then we want the whole system built with my crappy hacks and to see if the system still limps along with my cruft added to the system
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[08:58:00] nuonguy: man, I can never understand why people are afraid of lines longer than 80 chars
[08:58:00] nuonguy: Are we still stuck with printers from the 1970s?
[08:58:00] sona_: whois afraid ?
[08:58:00] Juski: nuonguy: some people still edit source with pure text editors in terminal sessions
[08:59:00] Juski: and it helps keep code readable
[08:59:00] nuonguy: in third world countries maybe
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[08:59:00] Juski: if your code can't be read by a human being, what's the point?
[08:59:00] nuonguy: I beleive that it actually hinders readability
[08:59:00] nuonguy: I agree with that
[08:59:00] nuonguy: that's why I do reasonably long lines
[08:59:00] Chutt: yes, because scrolling back and forth is easier to read.
[08:59:00] ** kartom points out she likes her old fashioned vi **
[09:00:00] nuonguy: Tell me, how many myth developers have monitors that cannot do at least 1280x1024?
[09:00:00] Xenna: Even VI can do pretty long lines
[09:00:00] nuonguy: I'd guess zero
[09:00:00] Chutt: you're going to make everyone have the same minimum width?
[09:00:00] nuonguy: That's what the standard calls for: http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/CodingStandards
[09:00:00] kartom: but why strain my eyes, 14hrs infront of a monitor
[09:00:00] Juski: guess again. I was working in 1280x1024.. and I used nano to edit the source I was working on
[09:01:00] nuonguy: It's a nice page, but for that
[09:01:00] Chutt: no
[09:01:00] nuonguy: Juski: That's what I said
[09:01:00] Chutt: you're going to make everyone run full-screen text editors?
[09:01:00] Chutt: with the same high minimum character width?
[09:01:00] nuonguy: no
[09:02:00] Chutt: so, then, scrolling back and forth is easier to read?
[09:02:00] nuonguy: Besides, as Chutt knows full well, lotsa people would rather argue brainless coding conventions rather than actually write working code :-)
[09:03:00] nuonguy: I'm definitly with Chutt on the scrolling back and forth; totally messes with my fu/flow/ki/thinking
[09:03:00] Juski: yes nuonguy: you're living proof ;)
[09:03:00] nuonguy: I'm just trying to fit in
[09:03:00] ** kartom sighs **
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[09:04:00] Chutt: 80 character lines means that nobody has to scroll left & right to read code.
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[09:04:00] nuonguy: good point
[09:04:00] nuonguy: long lines means less scrolling up and down
[09:05:00] Chutt: editors do that a lot better.
[09:05:00] Juski: yes, but in the 21st century people have mouses with scrolly wheels ;)
[09:05:00] Bonkers: who uses a mouse for editting code?
[09:05:00] Xenna: Web page research says that people absolutely hate horizontal scrolling
[09:06:00] nuonguy: I hadn't thought of that either
[09:06:00] Xenna: Well, I guess we all knew that
[09:06:00] nuonguy: but I do use a full screen editor and try to even remove the horizontal & vertical scroll bars from my apps
[09:06:00] nuonguy: I didn't know that
[09:06:00] Bonkers: full-screen editor? wow, that's a big window
[09:06:00] Chutt: full-screen is different size on different computers
[09:06:00] Chutt: depends on your font, etc.
[09:06:00] Xenna: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20050711.html
[09:07:00] ** kartoAWAY bangs her head on her desk trying to pour a mug of coffee **
[09:07:00] Chutt: and i couldn't code with one full-screen window.
[09:07:00] Xenna: "Avoid horizontal scrolling on Web pages and minimize it elsewhere."
[09:07:00] Chutt: that's.. barbaric
[09:07:00] nuonguy: At work it's a 1280x1024 monitor and then a 1024x768 monitor: It's an older laptop
[09:08:00] nuonguy: barbaric?
[09:08:00] Bonkers: if I make my xemacs with a decently sized font full-screen, I get 187 characters on a line
[09:08:00] nuonguy: Barbaric, as in, productive?
[09:08:00] Bonkers: 12pt font
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[09:08:00] Xenna: Well I'm still at 80 characters, even though I probably won't submit my code anyway
[09:09:00] nuonguy: I always tease people who hard wrap at 80 characters with snarky comments about 70s printers
[09:09:00] nuonguy: It's way more fun that actually testing my drivel that passes for code
[09:10:00] Xenna: I have this seventies printer in my closet that can do a lot more than 80 ch/line
[09:10:00] Xenna: It's one of those old chain feed wide matrix things
[09:10:00] nuonguy: cool
[09:10:00] Xenna: I'm thinking I'll find a useful task for it sometime
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[09:11:00] nuonguy: If you're even inclined to recycle it, consider giving to anyone who thinks lines should be wrapped at 80 characters
[09:11:00] Xenna: It's nice and retro to have it occasionally print out a line
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[09:11:00] nuonguy: It'll give them more viewing area than they're using
[09:11:00] Xenna: ;)
[09:11:00] Xenna: I'll remember that
[09:11:00] Juski: right. time to head off to work
[09:11:00] Juski: :-/
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[09:12:00] nuonguy: At this time of night?
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[09:12:00] nuonguy: So
[09:12:00] nuonguy: Nice weather we're having, huh?
[09:12:00] Xenna: I'm already at work
[09:13:00] nuonguy: What do you do?
[09:13:00] nuonguy: I want your job
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[09:14:00] nuonguy: wow
[09:14:00] nuonguy: useit.com is pretty cool
[09:14:00] Xenna: I'm not sure what I do exactly
[09:14:00] Xenna: ;)
[09:14:00] nuonguy: I have a few things you could put on your to-do list, if that'll help you out...
[09:15:00] Xenna: No I'm fine
[09:15:00] Xenna: I'll go on holiday in a few days
[09:16:00] nuonguy: You sure?
[09:16:00] nuonguy: You could write a myth FM radio plugin...
[09:16:00] nuonguy: I would certainly be grateful for that...
[09:16:00] Xenna: I'm already writing a slimserver to lirc plugin
[09:16:00] Xenna: More useful to me
[09:16:00] nuonguy: what's slimserver?
[09:17:00] Xenna: Ever heard of a SqueezeBox?
[09:17:00] nuonguy: no
[09:17:00] Xenna: http://www.slimdevices.com/
[09:18:00] nuonguy: nifty
[09:18:00] Xenna: They're sort of a combination of a networked lcd display, networked audio interface
[09:19:00] nuonguy: so how do these things work?
[09:19:00] Xenna: And a networked IR interface
[09:19:00] nuonguy: What is a networked audio interface? Is it like the relationship between itunes and airport express?
[09:19:00] Xenna: All intelligence is in the server software which runs on a Windows/OSX/Linux box
[09:19:00] Xenna: Yes, similar
[09:20:00] nuonguy: ok
[09:20:00] Xenna: xcept the airport has no display or ir
[09:20:00] Xenna: If you want to get a feel for it, download and install the slimserver package
[09:20:00] Xenna: And run the 'softsqueeze' client
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[09:21:00] Xenna: The client is a simulation of the normal squeezebox hardware
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[09:21:00] nuonguy: does the squeezebox run a web server so that a user can configure it?
[09:21:00] Xenna: I have two hardware clients that I use to control my MythTV box
[09:21:00] Xenna: No, the squeezebox itself is like a dumb terminal
[09:21:00] Xenna: The slimserver has a webserver
[09:22:00] Xenna: The great thing about it is that the server is written in Perl and has an open structure with plugins
[09:22:00] nuonguy: cool
[09:22:00] Xenna: so you can plugin things like... lirc
[09:22:00] nuonguy: did you work on it?
[09:22:00] Xenna: no, I did some plugins and extensions
[09:23:00] Xenna: Lik this one: http://videobox.sourceforge.net/
[09:23:00] Xenna: It's sort of like a play only mythtv that runs on Windows
[09:24:00] Xenna: It's what I used at home before I started with MythTV
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[09:39:00] Chutt: i need to make trac only allow logged in people the ability to change severity/priority.
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[09:54:00] ivor: Chutt: indeed I think it needs doing. just let them have TICKET_APPEND.
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[10:19:00] Chutt: hrmph
[10:19:00] Chutt: just upgraded trac, and it's not showing ticket changes in the timeline
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[10:27:00] ivor: Chutt: in your trac.ini have you now got -> "[timeline] ticket_show_details = false"
[10:28:00] Chutt: nope
[10:28:00] Chutt: it's 'true'.
[10:28:00] Chutt: it's only not showing _new_ ticket changes.
[10:29:00] ivor: hmm no thats something else.
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[10:36:00] Chutt: hrm
[10:36:00] Chutt: actually
[10:37:00] Chutt: it doesn't show _any_ ticket changes
[10:39:00] ivor: but it shows old tickets. weird.
[10:40:00] Chutt: in fact, i don't see any code to show ticket changes in there.
[10:40:00] Chutt: well, not appending stuff
[10:40:00] Chutt: just opens, closes, and reopens
[10:41:00] ivor: oh I see what you mean now. :) did it ever show changes?
[10:41:00] Chutt: i dunno
[10:41:00] Chutt: i thought it did
[10:43:00] Chutt: ah
[10:43:00] Chutt: i had to select 'ticket details'.
[10:43:00] ivor: aha. doh!!
[10:43:00] Chutt: it's not on by default
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[11:26:00] jono: hi all
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[11:31:00] juski: hey jono.. how's it going?
[11:31:00] jono: juski, good, you?
[11:31:00] juski: yeh not bad. been metal bashing today.. I just 'love' cutting metal
[11:36:00] juski: it's not in my job description either ;)
[11:37:00] Xenna: Job descriptions are so confining...
[11:39:00] juski: if I stuck to mine I'd never get anything done
[11:39:00] Xenna: For some reason I always hate my descriptions
[11:40:00] Xenna: and do my best to do something else
[11:41:00] jono: juski, just blogged about some problems at http://www.jonobacon.org/ – could you have a look and comment if anything jumps to mind – I have a meeting now so can't stick around, cheers
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[12:59:00] jono: hi all
[12:59:00] jono: thanks for the tips juski, ivor
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[13:05:00] juski: no problem jono
[13:06:00] juski: are you that strapped for CPU that even mythfilldatabase makes tv playback jerky though?
[13:06:00] jono: juski it seems so
[13:06:00] juski: what speed's your CPU?
[13:06:00] jono: and this is a powerful 64bit AMD box with a gig of ram
[13:07:00] jono: I think its 2ghz
[13:07:00] juski: hmmm there must be something else afoot
[13:07:00] jono: hmmm
[13:07:00] jono: I did have database errors a while back but I thought I had resolved them, maybe I should rebuild the database
[13:07:00] jono: I have tomorrow and friday off to look at this
[13:08:00] jono: another thing, has any work gone into removing the two second gap between changing channels? I want to reduce it if possible to allow quick channel changing
[13:08:00] juski: 2 seconds is pretty quick acutally
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[13:09:00] juski: or you could try the SVN version, where livetv has been rejigged somewhat
[13:09:00] jono: oh really
[13:09:00] jono: how much quicker is it?
[13:10:00] juski: I'd love to know how STBs have such quick channel changes. wonder if anyone's looked into what makes dreambox et al so quick
[13:10:00] jono: yeah
[13:11:00] juski: I don't know how much quicker it is.. the only system I have SVN running on right now is dog slow anyway
[13:12:00] jono: right
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[13:22:00] juski: time to do some work again
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[13:31:00] Kel-kippin: jono – what are you using for your capture card? pvr or freeview?
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[13:32:00] jono: Kelerion, pvr-350
[13:32:00] Kelerion: btw.. listening to the review of myth last night – nicely done
[13:32:00] Kelerion: listened..even
[13:33:00] Kelerion: so your using a ir-blaster type cable to your sky/cable?
[13:33:00] jono: Kelerion, cheers :)
[13:33:00] jono: Kelerion, no, using a sky channel changer unit
[13:34:00] Kelerion: the heenan one? been meaning to look at that
[13:36:00] Kelerion: thats interesting though – I presumed that unit would make channel changing instantaneous
[13:36:00] jono: yeah
[13:36:00] jono: brb
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[13:40:00] fir3st0rm: hi
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[13:41:00] fir3st0rm: how can i get the option "shutdown system" in shutdown dialog?
[13:50:00] GreyFoxx: I don't think you can if you are running a backend on that same machine
[13:51:00] GreyFoxx: unless you edit the code. It's a 1 line change last time I looked
[13:51:00] GreyFoxx: but that was a long time ago, it might be optional now *goes to look*
[13:51:00] fir3st0rm: i installed it from rpm and i don't want to compile it manually ;)
[13:51:00] GreyFoxx: running 0.18 ?
[13:52:00] fir3st0rm: yeah
[13:52:00] fir3st0rm: i wanted something stable ;)
[13:54:00] GreyFoxx: A release is merely a snapshot of svn, nothing more :)
[13:55:00] fir3st0rm: yeah but it's a more stable snapshot imo ^^
[13:56:00] GreyFoxx: nah, sometimes that's true but for the mostpart svn is just as stable
[13:56:00] GreyFoxx: certain parts might be undergoing working at an y given time, but for the mostpart that doesn't affect most users
[13:57:00] GreyFoxx: It's like namebrand shoes versus noname shoes. people have themselves convinced that namebrand is better :)
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[13:57:00] fir3st0rm: i tried the svn but i didn't like it
[13:58:00] fir3st0rm: some things were wrong so i devided to switch back
[13:59:00] GreyFoxx: To each their own I guess :)
[13:59:00] Kelerion: I usually always use svn.. but I went to release while they're working on livetv.. am dying to give that a try now though.. lol
[14:00:00] fir3st0rm: when .19 is out i'll give it a try again ;)
[14:00:00] _nero_: Kelerion, I love the new livetv setup..
[14:00:00] _nero_: if you have a pvr card, it works fine..
[14:00:00] Kelerion: it's working alright now?
[14:00:00] Kelerion: got a 250
[14:00:00] _nero_: yeah, thats what I have, and it works great..
[14:01:00] _nero_: only thing missing, is the progress bar doesn't update if you pause..
[14:01:00] ** Kelerion gets more tempted **
[14:01:00] GreyFoxx: for me channel changes sped up
[14:01:00] GreyFoxx: _nero_: I thought I saw a commit yesterday or the day before fixing that
[14:01:00] _nero_: GreyFoxx, ya know, I think you are right.. :)
[14:01:00] GreyFoxx: but I could be wrong
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[14:01:00] _nero_: GreyFoxx, nice.. I'll have to update..
[14:01:00] Kelerion: have an external cable box. .so not sure channel changes would be much different
[14:01:00] _nero_: Kelerion, so do I..
[14:01:00] _nero_: but the way it does the buffering is different..
[14:02:00] Kelerion: ahh
[14:02:00] _nero_: Is it a known bug that occasionally when the show changes, the livetv bit freezes up? (this has happened to me a couple of times when not time-shifted)
[14:02:00] Kelerion: am supposed to be working!! argh.. yer a bad influence nero.. lol
[14:02:00] _nero_: haha.
[14:02:00] _nero_: so am I..
[14:02:00] _nero_: (supposed to be working that is)
[14:03:00] fir3st0rm: i had some problems removing software i compiled is it possible to remove mythtv svn install completely?
[14:03:00] juski: me too.. oh wait I'm doing both
[14:03:00] _nero_: fir3st0rm, did you try make uninstall ?
[14:03:00] fir3st0rm: yeah
[14:03:00] _nero_: what did it leave?
[14:03:00] fir3st0rm: for some programs it didn't work
[14:04:00] Kelerion: okies.. what the hell .. I got 6 hours before the wife gets home.. lol
[14:04:00] fir3st0rm: just wanna know if it works correctly for mythtv svn
[14:04:00] Kelerion: wish me luck.. lol
[14:04:00] _nero_: oh.. I think so.. it has worked for me...
[14:04:00] _nero_: GL Kelerion
[14:04:00] fir3st0rm: ok tnx
[14:05:00] _nero_: ugh. the clock on this machine sucks..
[14:06:00] _nero_: off by 4–6 seconds every 10 minutes or so..
[14:06:00] fir3st0rm: some time ago i had some problems with the clock on windows too...
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[14:12:00] braniff: do debian myth packages exist ???
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[14:14:00] fir3st0rm:
[14:15:00] fir3st0rm: also nicht /etc/rc.local sondern die andere die userspezifisch ist
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[14:28:00] Kelerion: ok. .all deps installed and old myth removed.. so compiling
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[14:30:00] marc_gerges: good afternoon
[14:30:00] marc_gerges: trying to install myth from svn on to a new debian sarge box
[14:31:00] marc_gerges: and my troubles seem to start at a lengthy query it tries to send to mysql
[14:32:00] marc_gerges: the query is in http://pastebin.ca/32791
[14:33:00] juski: looks about right.. create the dtv_multiplex table if it doesn't exist...
[14:33:00] marc_gerges: I suppose my problem comes from myth expecting another version of mysql than what debian provides. But couldn't find any info as to what the minimum is
[14:33:00] juski: try going the other way, marc ;)
[14:33:00] juski: i.e. maybe your mysql version is too new
[14:33:00] marc_gerges: it's 4.0.24... hardly new
[14:33:00] marc_gerges: :-)
[14:34:00] juski: or am I getting mysql confused with QT again?
[14:34:00] juski: :-/
[14:34:00] juski: hmm I'm on the same version here, so it's not that
[14:36:00] marc_gerges: the Mysql error is in http://pastebin.ca/32792
[14:36:00] juski: yeh that looks like a version issue
[14:36:00] laga: marc_gerges: well, mythtv from SVN works fine on debian sarge for me
[14:37:00] laga: well, i'm not using DVB, though
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[14:37:00] Kelerion: is it coming up with an error?
[14:37:00] marc_gerges: laga, neither am i
[14:38:00] marc_gerges: this is after configure, make, make install, mysql < mc.sql, mythtv-setup
[14:38:00] marc_gerges: the very first screen
[14:39:00] marc_gerges: mythtv-setup plays over it in the gui, but later all stuff turns weird because it can't access tables
[14:39:00] marc_gerges: that's when I went back and checked wath mythtv-setup was trying to do
[14:40:00] Kelerion: that sql ran fine on my fc4 machine with 4.1.14 of mysql
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[14:44:00] marc_gerges: I am still supposed to run mysql < mc.sql before starting mythtv-setup, right?
[14:44:00] Kelerion: but not on a 3.23.58 mysql
[14:44:00] Kelerion: doesn't like CURRENT_TIMESTAMP
[14:45:00] marc_gerges: I actually did a 'select current_timestamp' on the CLI and it was happy to return it.
[14:48:00] Xenna: select now()+0 ?
[14:49:00] otwin: i have 'mysqld Ver 4.0.24_Debian' and could test it for you – but svn/trac seems to be down
[14:49:00] otwin: can someone make available that mc.sql from svn?
[14:49:00] marc_gerges: it's in pastebin.
[14:49:00] laga: otwin: you can browse the svn source at svn.mythtv.org
[14:49:00] otwin: it's down
[14:50:00] laga: ok
[14:50:00] Kelerion: yup.. it's down
[14:50:00] marc_gerges: the query that goes wrong... http://pastebin.ca/32791
[14:51:00] otwin: marc_gerges: same problem here
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[14:51:00] marc_gerges: the mc.sql is just creating db and user
[14:51:00] marc_gerges: thanks otwin
[14:51:00] marc_gerges: is this worth creating a bug?
[14:52:00] marc_gerges: can I do that as lowly user?
[14:53:00] Krazylegz: What's wrong with that query?
[14:53:00] ** Krazylegz looks at the log **
[14:53:00] marc_gerges: If I knew... my SQL knowledge is limited...
[14:53:00] Krazylegz: It doesn't work?
[14:53:00] Krazylegz: Works fine for me.
[14:53:00] otwin: mysql 4.0.24 on debian doesn't like it
[14:54:00] marc_gerges: what version mysql?
[14:54:00] Krazylegz: Yeah, I used 4.1.14.
[14:54:00] Krazylegz: Right, doesn't work on 4.0.22.
[14:55:00] GreyFoxx: hrm
[14:55:00] otwin: marc_gerges: may be 'apt-get install mysql-server-4.1' would help ;-)
[14:55:00] GreyFoxx: marcus2: Can you send me the complete output of mythtv-setup when you launch it and get that error ?
[14:56:00] marc_gerges: GreyFoxx, was that for me?
[14:56:00] GreyFoxx: yes, sorry
[14:56:00] GreyFoxx: if you put it up on pastebin I'll take a look
[14:56:00] marc_gerges: yes I can, just not right now. It'll be 45 minutes – is that ok?
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[14:56:00] Krazylegz: "Beginning with MySQL 4.1.2, you have more flexible control over when automatic TIMESTAMP initialization and updating occur and which column should have those behaviors."
[14:56:00] GreyFoxx: Sure, or better email it to me, I'll look then
[14:57:00] Kelerion: ok.. all working so far nero. .lol
[14:57:00] marc_gerges: Krazylegz, would make sense
[14:57:00] marc_gerges: GreyFoxx, ok
[14:57:00] marc_gerges: thanks
[14:57:00] GreyFoxx: marcus2: What revision of svn is it ?
[14:57:00] GreyFoxx: err marc_gerges
[14:57:00] GreyFoxx: darn nick complete
[14:58:00] marc_gerges: Greyfoxx, one from yersterday evening, one from this morning
[14:58:00] marc_gerges: where can I see the number=
[14:58:00] marc_gerges: ?
[14:58:00] GreyFoxx: I updated mine last night without error
[14:58:00] Krazylegz: In the version of Myth that I have installed, that "on update CURRENT_TIMESTAMP" set for that field of that table. Might be able to try that and see if Myth will work okay?
[14:58:00] GreyFoxx: go ihnto the source and type "svn info"
[14:59:00] marc_gerges: 8143
[14:59:00] GreyFoxx: k
[14:59:00] laga: hehe. http://www.signal15.com/articles/2005/12/06/h . . . el-bandwidth <- nice story. and you can find Dagmar d'Surreal in the comments ;)
[14:59:00] marc_gerges: guess the error will only show depending where you start updating databaseschemas
[15:00:00] GreyFoxx: Where did you pull the actual query from ?
[15:01:00] Kelerion: svn is back up
[15:02:00] marc_gerges: GreyFoxx, from mythtv-setup's output
[15:02:00] Kelerion: bloody hell.. they went to down on protocol versions.. lol.. : "Incompatible protocol version (mythweb=15, backend=22)"
[15:04:00] GreyFoxx: No, more likely you either haven't updated mythweb or mythweb hasn't been updated to the new protocol verison
[15:04:00] Kelerion: just installed svn.. have been on release version for a couple of months
[15:04:00] _nero_: Kelerion, did you manually install mythweb?
[15:04:00] Kelerion: just updating mythweb now
[15:05:00] _nero_: make install doesnt do it for you.. you have to copy it over.
[15:05:00] GreyFoxx: yeah
[15:05:00] Kelerion: it's ok.. I know what to do.. just saying about the protocol versions :)
[15:05:00] GreyFoxx: the versioin went up, not down :)
[15:05:00] Kelerion: typo. should have been "went to town".. lol
[15:05:00] _nero_: yah.. mythweb stayed at 15, while the backend went up to 22.. ;)
[15:06:00] _nero_: ahhhhh.. ok
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[15:06:00] GreyFoxx: ahhh heh
[15:06:00] juski: laga: that's the funniest thing I've read today (tm)
[15:06:00] _nero_: anyone here good at dynamic finite element analysis?? ugh..
[15:07:00] GreyFoxx: changeset #8071 is where that timstamp change came in
[15:09:00] laga: juski: hehe. yep, it's pretty funny
[15:10:00] juski: there's always someone er.. daft enough to get pwn3d like that... (gazes upwards & rolls eyes, acting all innocent)
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[15:12:00] laga: hehe
[15:12:00] ** juski being the pwn3d, not the pwn3r, in 'leet-speek' **
[15:12:00] laga: we had a lot of fun with the windows message service on our lan parties, too
[15:13:00] GreyFoxx: Looks like a bunch of mysql 4.1 specific stuff crept in when bjm updated the databse init last week
[15:13:00] laga: juski: thanks, i'm quite fluent in l33t-sp34k ;)
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[15:14:00] juski: finally! got this damn board flashed
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[15:15:00] juski: mate of mine had to make a ping of death utility.. his lecturer didn't realise the relevance of the fake ip he'd used... 133.7.0.0
[15:16:00] laga: hehe
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[15:20:00] Kelerion: okies.. mythweb is officially harder to install than ever.. but at least it's doable and done.. lol
[15:21:00] juski: I thought it was quite easy in 0.18.. until Gentoo revised Apache & I got badly stuck without enough entropy
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[15:36:00] juski: lol. nearly 48% of people looking at my theme webshite are using Windows XP
[15:38:00] laga: there's a nice patch for apache. it rejects the internet explorer on fridays. hey, even web servers have to relax ;)
[15:38:00] juski: rofl!
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[15:39:00] juski: maybe if I ran my own server (fat chance with a thin pipe) I'd just get it to always reject IE
[15:40:00] Krazylegz: Get it to reject anything that isn't your favorite browser. That will teach your <fill in the blank> loving friends!
[15:40:00] laga: all of my friends use firefox. (they wouldn't be my friends otherwise)
[15:41:00] laga: because friends don't let friends use IE
[15:41:00] Krazylegz: I switch people on to Opera.
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[15:50:00] ** Kelerion watches mythplugins compile.. *knowing* it's gonna break somewhere **
[15:50:00] Kelerion: okies.. now I'm impressed.. it all compiled first time!
[15:51:00] ** _nero_ should sit down tonight and finish up mythgallery.. **
[15:53:00] Kelerion: yanno.. thats one plugin I've never used
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[15:54:00] _nero_: hehe.. We use it all the time..
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[15:54:00] _nero_: cant wait for the ability to do mythmusic and mythgallery at the same time.. we entertain a lot, and love to put up a slideshow of pics..
[15:54:00] laga: that would rocj
[15:54:00] laga: rock*
[15:55:00] _nero_: (find pics of all the people who are coming over, from previous events, parties, etc.. and cycle them through.. people get a kick out of it)
[15:55:00] Kelerion: but saying that.. my wife mentioned wanting something like that last week.. and I told her myth could already do it.. so now she wants me to get out my photo's and put them all on there.. lol
[15:55:00] Kelerion: thousands of damn photo's to sort out.. not looking forward to that.. lol
[15:56:00] _nero_: music + ken burns effect works real nice on iPhoto.. I'll supply the ken burns effect hopefully by the end of the week..
[15:56:00] Kelerion: and yeah.. having it play music at the same time would be cool.. I remember something being talking about months ago that would allow that.. so don't know if it's on the todo list
[15:56:00] _nero_: but I know nothing of integrating mythmusic, so I'll have to leave that one for the pros..
[15:56:00] _nero_: yeah.. it is.. mtd or something like that. (a dameon that will run and allow concurrent myth plugins)
[15:58:00] Kelerion: ahh that sounds familiar
[15:59:00] jams: mfd
[15:59:00] jams: mtd is the transcoding daemon
[15:59:00] juski: mtd= myth transcode daemon iirc
[16:00:00] Beirdo: mfd still means something else to me
[16:00:00] _nero_: mfd.. doh..
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[16:01:00] Beirdo: speaking of MFD's, haven't seen Eszenia for a while
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[16:04:00] ** Kelerion looks lost **
[16:04:00] Kelerion: why is mythplugins keep installing to /share ?? I set the prefix!
[16:05:00] _nero_: did you do a qmake mythplugins.pro ?
[16:05:00] _nero_: (Or does that not need to be done any more?)
[16:05:00] Kelerion: nope.. didn't.. forgot it.. lol
[16:06:00] Kelerion: but.. there is one there already.. so I suspect you don't need that step any more
[16:06:00] Kelerion: gonna checkout and do it again
[16:07:00] _nero_: well.. off to the office, where I will hopefuly find out that the guy who is running simulations I have to match, ran them wrong.. grrrrr..
[16:08:00] Kelerion: good luck :)
[16:08:00] Kelerion: have fun.. lol
[16:11:00] juski: hmm mythplugins.. someone remind me to log that error I was getting during mythmusic compiling, next week please ;)
[16:11:00] ** Kelerion reminds juski to log the error about mythmusic compiling **
[16:12:00] Kelerion: oh.. next week
[16:12:00] ** Kelerion chuckles **
[16:12:00] Kelerion: like my memory is *that* good!
[16:12:00] Beirdo: at monday echo "juski, log that error"
[16:12:00] Krazylegz: Ugh, it's only wednesday.
[16:13:00] Beirdo: shuddup :)
[16:13:00] Beirdo: don't remind me :)
[16:14:00] Beirdo: spamassassin can kiss my ass
[16:15:00] Krazylegz: Remind you? I'm sure I've already had a rougher week than you. PM me if you want to argue that. :-)
[16:15:00] Baylink: Beirdo: you using Linux on the desktop? I forget...
[16:15:00] Beirdo: yeah, on my laptop
[16:16:00] Baylink: Ever use eBay from there? I'm seeing what I think might be PMTUD problems getting to my.ebay.com (but *not* www.ebay.com) from SuSE 9.3; both Firefox and Konq.
[16:16:00] Beirdo: hmm
[16:16:00] Beirdo: not usually, haven't been ebaying for a bit
[16:17:00] marc_gerges: GreyFoxx, others: the mysql query database we spoke about earlier
[16:18:00] marc_gerges: mythtv-setup's output is at http://pastebin.ca/32808
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[16:27:00] Kelerion: ok.. am presuming I'm missing something new.. just upgraded to svn.. now when I set something to record.. it doesn't.. the items are in "watch recordings" but all I get is "the file for this recording can not be found".. any ideas?
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[16:31:00] GreyFoxx: marc_gerges: There are a couple that need to be changed
[16:32:00] marc_gerges: GreyFoxx, in terms of queries within mythtv-setup or in terms of me reporting things?
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[16:33:00] GreyFoxx: queries in dbcheck in libmythtv
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[16:34:00] GreyFoxx: some 4.1 specific stuff crept in during a update to it last weke
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[16:43:00] marc_gerges: aha
[16:43:00] marc_gerges: anything I can do to test?
[16:44:00] Kelerion: anyone know if Neil Bird pops in here?
[16:44:00] GreyFoxx: marc_gerges: Got really, just minor code changes for the most part
[16:45:00] GreyFoxx: err Not Really
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[16:47:00] juski: grrr.. why do I have to mod this metalwork to make a dvd-rom drive fit? haven't product marketing heard of Photoshop?
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[16:51:00] lindworm: Hi
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[16:52:00] lindworm: I am having an error compiling mythtv on suse OSS10
[16:52:00] lindworm: common.h:61: error: array type has incomplete element type
[16:52:00] lindworm: common.h:65: error: array type has incomplete element type
[16:52:00] lindworm: make[2]: *** [utils.o] Error 1
[16:52:00] lindworm: make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mythtv-0.18.1/libs/libavcodec'
[16:52:00] lindworm: make[1]: *** [sub-libavcodec] Error 2
[16:52:00] lindworm: make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mythtv-0.18.1/libs'
[16:52:00] lindworm: make: *** [sub-libs] Error 2
[16:52:00] lindworm: didn't find any solution in mailing list
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[17:03:00] ** Beirdo quotes the topic **
[17:03:00] Beirdo: :. Use http://pastebin.ca/ .:.
[17:05:00] Beirdo: other than that...
[17:06:00] Beirdo: no idea what your issue may be
[17:06:00] lindworm: i found out that gcc 4 is my prob. but i can't downgrade
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[17:06:00] poop: You can install other gcc versions simultaneously.
[17:07:00] lindworm: i dont know how to
[17:07:00] lindworm: i do nit find rpms for my suse
[17:07:00] poop: lindworm: #suse might be able to help
[17:08:00] nuonguy: you can't get gcc-compat-32 for suse?
[17:08:00] laga: you could also try SVN
[17:09:00] poop: release-0-18-fixes has gcc4 compatibility
[17:09:00] lindworm: oh where do i get that ?
[17:09:00] poop: lindworm: svn.mythtv.org
[17:10:00] poop: http://svn.mythtv.org
[17:10:00] lindworm: ahh thats the ominous svn :-)
[17:10:00] laga: yeah, get the fixes branch
[17:11:00] poop: lindworm: No suse packages, eh?
[17:12:00] lindworm: still learning linux :-) everyday some new stuff. thanks a lot. hope that helps
[17:12:00] lindworm: nope
[17:13:00] Krazylegz: Whoa, MythTV is one heck of a trial by fire way to learn Linux.
[17:13:00] Krazylegz: Heck, I remember when I first used Linux. I punching things.....because I had not yet realized that things were case-sensitive.
[17:13:00] juski: Krazylegz: tell me about it
[17:13:00] KillerBunny: Isnt suse a bad place to start if you want to learn linux?
[17:14:00] Krazylegz: I don't think it matters. You learn what you want to learn, one way or another.
[17:14:00] poop: Krazylegz is an old VMS user.
[17:14:00] Krazylegz: Heh, I used it in college, but I'm only 24. I'm not THAT old. :-)
[17:14:00] poop: He still puts ; at the end of filenames
[17:14:00] Krazylegz: I had come from DOS/Windows.
[17:15:00] poop: I used started using linux before windos mattered very much.
[17:15:00] poop: I don't have any of that baggage :)
[17:15:00] Krazylegz: Must be nice!
[17:15:00] juski: I used to fix fault-tolerant 68k systems for a living – they used PSOS & unix.. one OS per CPU in the same box
[17:15:00] Krazylegz: We all have to start somewhere.
[17:16:00] poop: I did try OS/2 in '94
[17:16:00] rjune: heh, os/2 was cool
[17:16:00] poop: The video drivers for my S3 card were pretty flaky though
[17:16:00] rjune: Trio 64+?
[17:17:00] poop: older :)
[17:17:00] rjune: S3 drivers for OS/2 were pretty flakey
[17:17:00] GreyFoxx: OS/2 was nice, and much better at multitasking than windows
[17:18:00] rjune: yup
[17:18:00] poop: It protected you from 16-bit windos apps.
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[17:33:00] juski: riiight.. time to go homeski
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[17:41:00] lindworm: thganks @ all myth is compiling
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[17:42:00] poop: You think that's the hard part? :)
[17:42:00] lindworm: the other things are not my prob :-)
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[18:09:00] Bonkers: so common problem "QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded", mysql support definitely installed, /usr/qt/3/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlmysql.so exists
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[18:10:00] poop: You could strace to see what it's actually trying to load.
[18:12:00] GreyFoxx: Bonkers Check to see if libmysqlclient is in your ldpath
[18:12:00] Bonkers: yep, that was the missing one
[18:12:00] Bonkers: qt was compiled againt libmysqlclient.so.14, but libmysqlclient.so.15 is the one installed now
[18:12:00] ** Beirdo goes bonkers **
[18:12:00] GreyFoxx: Can someone say a URL ionto the channel? I wanna test something
[18:13:00] Krazylegz: http://rit.ed
[18:13:00] Kelerion: http://www.whatamidoingwithmylife.com
[18:13:00] poop: http://localhost
[18:13:00] Beirdo: http://www.perlsucks.com
[18:13:00] GreyFoxx: Doh, forgot to set a variable first, brb
[18:13:00] laga: http://www.mythwiki.de
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[18:14:00] laga: (have to get the pagerank up)
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[18:15:00] GreyFoxx: 1 More please ?:)
[18:15:00] Kelerion: http://www.whatamidoingwithmylife.com
[18:15:00] Beirdo: http://www.perlsucks.com
[18:15:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:15:00] laga: http://www.mythwiki.de
[18:15:00] GreyFoxx: Sweeet
[18:15:00] Beirdo: I'm having an anti-perl day
[18:15:00] GreyFoxx: greg@out:~/.BitchX$ cat urls
[18:15:00] GreyFoxx: 2005-12–07 14:15 | #mythtv-users:Kelerion | http://www.whatamidoingwithmylife.com
[18:15:00] GreyFoxx: 2005-12–07 14:15 | #mythtv-users:Beirdo | http://www.perlsucks.com
[18:15:00] laga: (pagerank++)
[18:15:00] GreyFoxx: auto ftp/http/https url logging
[18:15:00] Kelerion: http://localhost:8080
[18:15:00] Kelerion: that work?
[18:15:00] laga: nice GreyFoxx
[18:15:00] GreyFoxx: 2005-12–07 14:15 | #mythtv-users:Kelerion | http://localhost:8080
[18:16:00] GreyFoxx: yup
[18:16:00] Kelerion: nice
[18:16:00] Kelerion: mythtv:81
[18:16:00] Kelerion: bet that one doesn't
[18:16:00] GreyFoxx: nope
[18:16:00] ** Kelerion chuckles **
[18:16:00] GreyFoxx: either start with www. ftp. or ftp:/ http:/ https:/
[18:17:00] Kelerion: froogle.google.com ?
[18:17:00] Kelerion: ahh okies
[18:17:00] Bonkers: http://"'echo blah >> ~/hi_there'"/
[18:17:00] GreyFoxx: 2005-12–07 14:17 | #mythtv-users:Bonkers | http://"'echo blah >> ~/hi_there'"/
[18:18:00] GreyFoxx: No execution ;)
[18:18:00] Bonkers: heh
[18:18:00] Bonkers: I forgot to stick some `` in there too
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[18:20:00] Kelerion: oh excellent.. finally figured a way around a 6 month old program.. lol
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[18:38:00] _willcooke_: Hello all. You see the plugins, are they front end plugins, or backend plug ins?
[18:39:00] poop: Mostly front-end
[18:39:00] GreyFoxx: Blah, didn't realize that identd on this new install was defaulting to sending uid's only and not usernames
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[18:40:00] GreyFoxx: better
[18:40:00] poop: Is your IRC experience richer now?
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[18:41:00] GreyFoxx: of course it is
[18:43:00] Kelerion: ok.. so in svn is it normal for files not to be deleted when exiting livetv?
[18:44:00] GreyFoxx: Yes
[18:44:00] GreyFoxx: They get auto expired
[18:44:00] Kelerion: ahh good.. thanks
[18:45:00] Kelerion: so they do.. after a minute or so
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[19:28:00] Goshen: The PVR 500 is sweet! :)
[19:32:00] GreyFoxx: My god I love my cable modem
[19:32:00] GreyFoxx: ETA: 1:14 95.70/170.84 MB 1.01 MB/s
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[19:49:00] Captain_Murdoch: GreyFoxx: I think we were trying to maintain 3.23.x compatibility. I'm replying to that email on the list and hope Isaac or Bruce speaks up.
[19:50:00] GreyFoxx: I thought so too but wanted to be sure
[19:50:00] GreyFoxx: the changes came in Bruces update last week so I figured I better ask
[19:52:00] Captain_Murdoch: yeah, I didn't notice that until now. I don't have any 4.x machines, all 3.23.x
[19:53:00] Captain_Murdoch: I think Isaac has mentinoed keeping 3.23.x compatiblity in the recent past
[19:53:00] GreyFoxx: All of my machines are 4.0.x, but that's mostly because they get a ton of selects and the caching is handy
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[19:58:00] GreyFoxx: Captain_Murdoch: Why is it that everytime you change volume during playback it clears the settings cache ?
[20:00:00] GreyFoxx: The first time to get a message about the specific value being cleared and from then on all volume changes report the generic clearing message: http://pastebin.ca/32831
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[20:53:00] Chutt: greyfoxx, yes, wanting to keep compatability with older mysql versions
[20:54:00] Chutt: and i just fixed that clearsettingscache issue
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[21:08:00] braniff: are any debian myth packages available ?
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[21:22:00] ginvent: I need a bit of help with mythweb. I can access it on locally connected machine, but on a remote over the internet machine, it tries to download the program_listing.php instead of run it.
[21:22:00] xris: that's messed up
[21:22:00] ginvent: Its a handler problem, but I don't know where
[21:22:00] xris: do you have a proxy?
[21:23:00] ginvent: no
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[21:24:00] xris: I've never really seen apache do something that drastic just depending on which hostname it was accessed with.
[21:25:00] Krazylegz: Virtual Server with different handlers?
[21:25:00] ginvent: No, I don't have any virtual servers.
[21:25:00] ginvent: I just used the standard knoppmyth install..
[21:25:00] Krazylegz: If you get the download, is it HTML, or PHP source?
[21:25:00] ginvent: .php source...
[21:25:00] Krazylegz: Weird.
[21:27:00] Xenna2: must be something with virtual servers IMHO
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[21:28:00] Krazylegz: ginvent: Put your httpd.conf/apache.conf/apache2.conf into Pastebin.
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[21:31:00] kormoc: Xenna2, so if you go to localhost it works, but external world ip address it doesn't?
[21:31:00] ginvent: http://pastebin.ca/32842
[21:31:00] Xenna2: could be done if you wanted it to work that way
[21:32:00] kormoc: erm
[21:32:00] Xenna2: but it's weird to have that without intention
[21:32:00] kormoc: that was to the guy with the issues
[21:32:00] ginvent: Yeah, if I go to it internal, no prob... external... it tries to download the .php instead of run it.
[21:33:00] kormoc: ginvent, your server name is set to localhost... it should likely be set to your external ip
[21:34:00] ginvent: Holy crapola... lol
[21:35:00] ginvent: hmm... nope.
[21:36:00] Krazylegz: That really only matters for redirects, I think.
[21:37:00] ginvent: I can access the first page, but when I click on mythweb... it asks to download the .php instead of just running it.
[21:37:00] Krazylegz: Like if you did http://my.domain.com/mydir/ .
[21:37:00] Xenna2: Maybe it's something to do with AllowOverride
[21:38:00] Xenna2: The .php association is set in the .htaccess file
[21:38:00] Krazylegz: Could be something in a .htaccess in the MythWeb directory. You can use RemoveHandler to remove the PHP handler.
[21:38:00] kormoc: ginvent, but php works internally?
[21:38:00] Krazylegz: Which would result in what you're experiencing.
[21:38:00] ginvent: Yup... it works internally on all machines.
[21:38:00] Krazylegz: Still, shouldn't do it for only external access.
[21:39:00] Xenna2: You have to AllowOverride All for the mythweb directory to get mythweb to work
[21:39:00] kormoc: odd...
[21:40:00] Xenna2: If you don't have that and your host is not setup to handle .php pages you could see this
[21:40:00] Xenna2: but it's still strange that you don't always see this
[21:40:00] ginvent: I know.
[21:40:00] Krazylegz: #AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[21:40:00] Krazylegz: Why is that commented out?
[21:40:00] ginvent: it is in a different place...
[21:40:00] Krazylegz: I don't see it.
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[21:41:00] Krazylegz: Did you not paste the whole file?
[21:41:00] Xenna2: Why don't you try to change line 294 from None to All and restart
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[21:41:00] Xenna2: See if that fixes it
[21:42:00] ginvent: Krazy line 793
[21:42:00] ginvent: Xenna, tried it... nothing.
[21:42:00] Xenna2: mmmm....
[21:42:00] Krazylegz: Like 793 is blank?
[21:42:00] Krazylegz: *Line
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[21:43:00] ginvent: ?
[21:43:00] Krazylegz: I am looking at your pastebin.
[21:44:00] ginvent: hmmm
[21:44:00] Krazylegz: Yep. Blank.
[21:44:00] ginvent: hang on.
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[21:49:00] ginvent: try http://pastebin.ca/32844
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[21:49:00] braniff: how do i install mythtv on ubuntu ??
[21:49:00] braniff: that is, where can i get some packages ?
[21:49:00] Chutt: uh, apt-get install mythtv?
[21:50:00] Chutt: it's in multiverse
[21:50:00] dennis_p: you can unlock the multiverse in adept or that other package manager
[21:51:00] KillerBunny: Sweet... which version is in there?
[21:51:00] Krazylegz: ginvent: I still don't see where you have the AddModule for PHP.
[21:51:00] braniff: is multiverse a free repo ??
[21:51:00] Chutt: err, no.
[21:52:00] Chutt: that would be 'main'.
[21:52:00] braniff: i have it 'checked' (enabled) in synaptic, but i don't see mythtv
[21:52:00] dennis_p: press update first
[21:53:00] dennis_p: that will get listing from ubuntu multiverse too
[21:53:00] KillerBunny: dennis_p, which version is in multiverse right now ?
[21:54:00] dennis_p: follow the http://www.abarbaccia.com/ ubuntu guide it's a lot of time but easy for a newbie like me
[21:55:00] poop: Why does that url make me hungry?
[21:56:00] dennis_p: It get's a bit less step by step later on but apply the same logic and you'll get it to work
[21:56:00] braniff: thanks...yeah i mainly need the repo list off that site
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[22:01:00] braniff: ok, now i'm downloading mythtv with apt....
[22:01:00] KillerBunny: braniff, which version of mythtv is that?
[22:01:00] braniff: 0.18.1–5
[22:01:00] KillerBunny: Nice.
[22:01:00] beavis: Chutt: I just talked to Christian Marillat (the one hosting the inofficial lame/dvd/... repository on debian). He told me he can host mythtv too if you are ok with it.
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[22:02:00] KillerBunny: Guess its the last time im installing debian on my mythbox.
[22:02:00] braniff: KillerBunny, yeah it's so i can make a wireless frontend out of my laptop
[22:02:00] Chutt: why would i care?
[22:02:00] KillerBunny: kater
[22:02:00] KillerBunny: later
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[22:03:00] beavis: Chutt: just because it's the location where all the inofficial ("illegal") stuff is hosted
[22:03:00] beavis: heh
[22:03:00] ginvent: What is the command to printout a file to the screen in linux.
[22:03:00] braniff: cat
[22:03:00] laga: less, more
[22:03:00] ginvent: Thanks... brain blowing up.
[22:04:00] poop: Way to not include a keyboard driver, systemrescuecd
[22:04:00] beavis: Chutt: ok, so I'll send him the diff files for debian. I'll talk to rkugalow when Christian's finished
[22:05:00] ** kormoc raises an eyebrow at poop's keyboard issue. **
[22:05:00] dennis_p: I have mythtv and remote working in on Kubuntu with KDE 3.5 all in Dutch, ubuntu mythtv is easy. (I could not get mythknoppix to work)
[22:05:00] poop: kormoc: Are you associated with systemrescuecd? :)
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[22:06:00] kormoc: no, more courious as to how they would remove the driver.
[22:06:00] poop: linux is modular these days
[22:06:00] ginvent: jeez, how do I copy a file to paste into pastebin from a ssh terminal?
[22:06:00] ginvent: If I cat, my terminal doesn't store enough.
[22:07:00] kormoc: poop, ahh, but which keyboard driver don't they have?
[22:07:00] ** braniff has been using Ubuntu for 2 days and really likes it **
[22:07:00] poop: kormoc: usb
[22:07:00] kormoc: poop, cause I beleive that the basic one is built in and you can't just set it to not build or module.
[22:07:00] kormoc: ahh.
[22:08:00] kormoc: so it's more usb human interface drivers are not there rather then the keyboard driver isn't
[22:08:00] poop: The driver that handles my keyboard isn't there.
[22:09:00] braniff: ginvent, you might want to use ftp
[22:10:00] kormoc: actually no it's still there. the USB HID devices use the standard keyboard driver, the driver that's missing is the peice that goes between the two.
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[22:10:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[22:10:00] poop: potato/ potato
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[22:12:00] braniff: the ubuntu package is nice. it even improves on mythtvsetup
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[22:13:00] GreyFoxx: how so ?
[22:14:00] braniff: it has a little GUI program to help you configure mysql
[22:14:00] GreyFoxx: ok, I thought you meant "mythtv-setup" the program, not "mythtv setup" the actions
[22:14:00] GreyFoxx: :)
[22:15:00] ginvent: OK, I got a good pastbin http://pastebin.ca/32853 is my httpd.conf file that doesn't allow .php to run on external machines... only locally connected ones.
[22:16:00] Krazylegz: Is that servername okay?
[22:16:00] ginvent: It's not my real servername. :D
[22:16:00] Krazylegz: Change 298 from None to All.
[22:16:00] GreyFoxx: Just using allow lines ?
[22:16:00] ginvent: Not exactly wanting to hand out my ip to all you hackers... ;)
[22:17:00] ginvent: The initial page loads up fine... then I click on mythweb... on local machines it runs... over the internet, it tries to download it.
[22:17:00] GreyFoxx: Why bother?
[22:18:00] GreyFoxx: sorry if I missed the start of the conversation :)
[22:18:00] ginvent: I want to be able to change shows and stuff remotely.
[22:19:00] GreyFoxx: I understand, but why change who can execute php
[22:19:00] GreyFoxx: Why not just an htaccess file with username/password + IP restrictions
[22:19:00] dennis_p: I don't know how to use TV out on my hauppauge 350 in ubuntu, I think I'll use nivdia twinview on fx5200 and later maybe use a direct RGB scart with potential tv blow up :-)
[22:20:00] ginvent: I am not that good of a apache pilot yet.
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[22:20:00] ginvent: lol
[22:20:00] ginvent: I think it has an .htaccess file.
[22:21:00] ginvent: on the mythweb dir
[22:21:00] GreyFoxx: it does
[22:21:00] GreyFoxx: you just need to uncomment the Auth lines (in the SVN version) or add a couple auth lines in the 0.18 vcersion
[22:22:00] GreyFoxx: that gets the user/password. If you want IP restrictions then you need allow lines
[22:23:00] ginvent: I did that... but still no load.
[22:23:00] GreyFoxx: Maybe your apache is configured to not check for .htaccess files. Iv'e run accross that a couple times, but I don't remember just what I did to fix it
[22:26:00] poop: My cd-rws sure get scratched up
[22:27:00] ** poop discards **
[22:29:00] ginvent: ok, now I can access .htaccess, but now I get a server error... sheesh
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[22:46:00] _willcooke_: dennis_p, I remeber seeing in the settings somewhere (probably the card settings) an option for "Use Hardware MPEG decoder", or something like that, I think you need to check that box
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[22:46:00] _willcooke_: dennis_p, and if you get that RGB -> SCART working, let me know!!
[22:46:00] mars_: i all
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[22:58:00] Servo888: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32319 | anybody know how they got the icons at the top to pop out like that
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