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[00:06:00] | dhofstra_: | bt878 |
[00:06:00] | dhofstra_: | or software encoder? |
[00:07:00] | dhofstra_: | damn |
[00:07:00] | dhofstra_: | he gave us 4 min and left |
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[00:10:00] | dhofstra_: | Screeeeech <-- that's the sound of my 18.1 coming to a dead halt because my distro uses gcc4 |
[00:11:00] | dennis_p: | yeah ubuntu guide also instruction me to install older gcc version |
[00:12:00] | sgentry6: | how can i recompile the modules for lirc? i tried emerging the package again and that didn't seem to solve my problem – when I try to load the I get an error saying that it is an invalid module format |
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[00:14:00] | Ediehow: | modules? |
[00:14:00] | Ediehow: | i thought lirc support for mythtv was compiled in |
[00:15:00] | sgentry6: | it was wierd I was able to load the modules I needed for my remote last week before I emerged mythtv |
[00:16:00] | sgentry6: | now that I emerged it, i get an error when trying to add it in, but if I start mythtv i get an error from lirc and myth wont start |
[00:21:00] | sphing: | dhofstra_: install gcc3 or switch distro |
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[00:22:00] | dhofstra_: | yup |
[00:22:00] | dhofstra_: | or go to svn, i suppose that might be working with 4... who knows |
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[00:49:00] | bobb: | hello |
[00:49:00] | bobb: | Anyone ever have mythrecipe segfault after it tries to setup initial tables? |
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[00:50:00] | kartoAWAY: | yes |
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[00:51:00] | kartom: | i managed to get mythmail and mythrecipes all compiled etc.. and it segfaults everytime it attempts to access the initial database |
[00:52:00] | bobb: | Yeah, exactly. never got it to work? |
[00:52:00] | kartom: | i haven't managed to find a solution |
[00:52:00] | bobb: | I haven't been able to find anything about it anywhere either |
[00:52:00] | kartom: | although i hadn't looked that hard.. |
[00:52:00] | kartom: | some googling |
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[00:52:00] | kartom: | i think it's somethingto do with the versions... |
[00:52:00] | kartom: | from previous version to .18 |
[00:53:00] | kartom: | database structure change.. |
[00:53:00] | kartom: | and the patches provided with mythextra plugins... doesn't help either |
[00:53:00] | bobb: | the thing is, this version of mythrecipe claims to work with myth .18 |
[00:53:00] | kartom: | yeah, i was just saying that |
[00:53:00] | kartom: | maybe it's buggy |
[00:54:00] | kartom: | it hasn't been maintained for a long time |
[00:54:00] | bobb: | :-( |
[00:54:00] | kartom: | so maybe the author just hasn't got the time |
[00:54:00] | kartom: | not had any time myself attempting to research it further |
[00:54:00] | kartom: | sorry |
[00:54:00] | kartom: | if you do manage it ... |
[00:55:00] | bobb: | yeah. Well, thanks anyways. Good to know i'm not the only one to have the problem |
[00:55:00] | kartom: | pls drop me / us a note |
[00:55:00] | kartom: | :) |
[00:55:00] | bobb: | sure thing |
[00:55:00] | kartom: | no one else in the room, when i asked a few weeks ago could help either... |
[00:55:00] | kartom: | it's not an official plug-in |
[00:55:00] | kartom: | :) |
[00:55:00] | kartom: | good luck |
[00:55:00] | bobb: | thanks |
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[01:04:00] | ** poop returns with a goofy-ass blue "Enermax" PSU for his LC10M ** | |
[01:10:00] | Kelerion: | LC04 here.. and I *love* that case.. lol |
[01:10:00] | poop: | LC10M is very simple, but it had unhidden usb ports on the front |
[01:11:00] | poop: | I plan to always have something plugged in. |
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[01:15:00] | poop: | I wonder if I should slice up my raid and lvm it all. |
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[01:21:00] | webbnetsys: | Any requirements for mythweb?? |
[01:21:00] | webbnetsys: | I am using suse 10.0 |
[01:21:00] | _nero_: | apache, and php |
[01:22:00] | _nero_: | and php-mysql module. |
[01:22:00] | Kelerion: | tcp/ip might be useful too :P |
[01:22:00] | _nero_: | Kelerion, so would a kernel and a bootloader, but I am guessing he has those.. ;) |
[01:22:00] | webbnetsys: | and getting the undefined function session_name() |
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[01:22:00] | ** Kelerion laughs ** | |
[01:23:00] | webbnetsys: | _nero_: does it require php5 |
[01:23:00] | Kelerion: | am just being helpful! :) |
[01:23:00] | webbnetsys: | instead of php4 |
[01:23:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys, I dont think so.. |
[01:23:00] | _nero_: | no session_name.. humm.. is there a php session module? |
[01:23:00] | Kelerion: | php4 works fine :) |
[01:23:00] | webbnetsys: | I have it on two different servers, and bot don't work |
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[01:24:00] | Kelerion: | you have a kernel and a bootloader, webbnetsys? just checking |
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[01:24:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys, you might have to enable php-sessions in /etc/php.ini |
[01:24:00] | webbnetsys: | Hmm. |
[01:25:00] | webbnetsys: | thought that was on by default |
[01:25:00] | _nero_: | I did too.. |
[01:25:00] | webbnetsys: | But on the other server is our web server, and we do have sessions running. |
[01:25:00] | _nero_: | never had a problem with getting sessions.. |
[01:25:00] | webbnetsys: | Let me check. |
[01:25:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys, svn or 0.18? |
[01:26:00] | Kelerion: | session name is on by default on fc4 |
[01:26:00] | Kelerion: | I don't think it needs auto-start though |
[01:26:00] | _nero_: | no, it doesnt.. |
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[01:27:00] | _nero_: | auto-start just does a session start before each php file execution.. |
[01:27:00] | Kelerion: | yup |
[01:28:00] | webbnetsys: | _nero_: nope |
[01:28:00] | webbnetsys: | it wasn't sett, but Iset it.' |
[01:28:00] | _nero_: | did that help? |
[01:28:00] | webbnetsys: | On our webserevr, we are funning Fedora with php4 |
[01:28:00] | _nero_: | (Session auto-start?? definitely dont set that..) |
[01:29:00] | _nero_: | ls |
[01:29:00] | _nero_: | did you create a php_sessions directory, and give apache RW permissions on it? |
[01:29:00] | webbnetsys: | and getting :Fatal Error at /var/www/html/mythweb/includes/init.php, line 55: |
[01:29:00] | webbnetsys: | Can't connect to the database server. Did you use the correct settings in config/conf.php? |
[01:29:00] | _nero_: | well, did you? |
[01:29:00] | webbnetsys: | But I can connect using mysql-client |
[01:29:00] | _nero_: | ;) |
[01:30:00] | _nero_: | ok... can you connect using mysql-client from the webserver? |
[01:30:00] | webbnetsys: | I am normally not purplexed with crap like this. |
[01:30:00] | webbnetsys: | yes. |
[01:30:00] | _nero_: | (web server machine) |
[01:30:00] | _nero_: | as the user mythtv? |
[01:30:00] | webbnetsys: | yes. |
[01:30:00] | webbnetsys: | can show tables; |
[01:30:00] | webbnetsys: | etc.etc. |
[01:30:00] | _nero_: | did you change the server setting in config/conf.php to your myth backend box? or is it still localhost? |
[01:30:00] | Kelerion: | webbnetsys.. you on a different webserver to backend? |
[01:31:00] | webbnetsys: | I would actually rather have the mythweb runnnig o nthis one, because we would beb ale to rercod fromo utside the network |
[01:31:00] | Kelerion: | okies |
[01:31:00] | webbnetsys: | Kelerion: Huh? |
[01:31:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys, if you cant get it running on this machine, you could get your firewall to forward port 81 to port 80 on the myth backend machine.. |
[01:31:00] | webbnetsys: | I just want to get one working. |
[01:32:00] | Kelerion: | presuming from your last statement your backend isn't you webserver also |
[01:32:00] | _nero_: | this isnt svn is it? |
[01:32:00] | webbnetsys: | mythweb is running on 81? |
[01:32:00] | Kelerion: | nope |
[01:32:00] | webbnetsys: | Either way. |
[01:33:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys, no, but you can do a port forward from 81 on your firewall machine to port 80 on the mythbackend machine.. |
[01:33:00] | webbnetsys: | Having the php running on router, or port forwarding. eeither way. |
[01:33:00] | Kelerion: | yeah. .what nero said |
[01:33:00] | webbnetsys: | right |
[01:33:00] | webbnetsys: | I just need help with the errors I am receiving. |
[01:33:00] | Kelerion: | php running on router? huh? |
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[01:33:00] | ** Kelerion looks lost ** | |
[01:34:00] | _nero_: | but once again, are you running SVN version of mythweb, or the 0.18 (latest release) version? |
[01:34:00] | webbnetsys: | nero said there was a variable in php.ini |
[01:34:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys, not for your database settings.. |
[01:34:00] | webbnetsys: | Uh. the suse rpm. |
[01:34:00] | _nero_: | for sessions.. |
[01:34:00] | webbnetsys: | for suse 10.0. I got from somplace in Germany. |
[01:35:00] | _nero_: | ok.. and did you check the mythweb/config/config.php file, to see what the database server is set to? |
[01:35:00] | _nero_: | (if it is an rpm it is probably 0.18) |
[01:35:00] | chris86wm: | hey guys, i have myth set up but i cant get a picture. is there a way that i could go back and change up some of the settings that i did before? |
[01:35:00] | _nero_: | chris86wm, sure, just run mythtv-setup again. |
[01:36:00] | chris86wm: | at boot? |
[01:36:00] | _nero_: | at any time.. |
[01:36:00] | webbnetsys: | so .18 is the latest |
[01:36:00] | _nero_: | make sure the front end is stopped.. |
[01:36:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys, yes. |
[01:36:00] | chris86wm: | k |
[01:36:00] | webbnetsys: | front end isn't running. |
[01:37:00] | Kelerion: | webbnetsys.. yes or no.. you checked the config file for mythweb? |
[01:37:00] | webbnetsys: | just backend, mysql, apache |
[01:37:00] | chris86wm: | i hope my card is compatable |
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[01:37:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys, the frontend bit was for chris86wm |
[01:37:00] | chris86wm: | lol |
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[01:37:00] | Kelerion: | have you opened "mythweb/config/config.php" in a text editor and changed it's settings??? |
[01:37:00] | webbnetsys: | Oh.OK LOL |
[01:37:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys, vi or emacs or whatever /var/www/html/mythweb/config/config.php (or wherever it lies) |
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[01:38:00] | webbnetsys: | Let me look for it. |
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[01:38:00] | Kelerion: | thats a "no I haven't checked it".. so go look at it |
[01:38:00] | webbnetsys: | Suse puts their crap in /srv/www/htdocs/ etc. |
[01:38:00] | webbnetsys: | The only think I found was in the config file. |
[01:38:00] | _nero_: | tell me what the line define('db_server', 'xxx'); says.. |
[01:38:00] | webbnetsys: | But all of the defaults look fine. |
[01:39:00] | webbnetsys: | localhost |
[01:39:00] | _nero_: | db_server is set to 'localhost'??? |
[01:39:00] | webbnetsys: | yes. |
[01:39:00] | Kelerion: | they are definately *not* fine if you webserver isn't the same machine as your myth backend |
[01:39:00] | _nero_: | you need to set that to whatever your backend machine's ip address is. |
[01:39:00] | webbnetsys: | ok. |
[01:39:00] | webbnetsys: | Let me try that. |
[01:39:00] | webbnetsys: | dud. |
[01:40:00] | _nero_: | ?? |
[01:40:00] | webbnetsys: | duh. I have already pointed that. |
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[01:40:00] | webbnetsys: | I am still looking at trying to find out about the sessions error. |
[01:40:00] | Kelerion: | worry about that var first |
[01:40:00] | _nero_: | so now you are no longer getting the DB error, but are getting a sessions error? |
[01:40:00] | webbnetsys: | but let me try the ip address on the fedora server. |
[01:40:00] | Kelerion: | what have you set it to? |
[01:40:00] | _nero_: | if you still have the db wrong, that can cause various other errors.. |
[01:41:00] | webbnetsys: | I had the name not ip address. |
[01:41:00] | chris86wm: | for dishnetwork what channel frequency table should i use, or does it matter? |
[01:41:00] | _nero_: | dns name?? or host name you have defined somewhere? or just any old name? ;) |
[01:41:00] | webbnetsys: | sec |
[01:41:00] | _nero_: | chris86wm, for dishnetwork, you wont be using a channel frequency.. |
[01:41:00] | Kelerion: | if your webserver has IP 192.168.1.10 and your myth backend has IP 192.168.1.20.. then on your config file for mythweb set the "define('db_server', 'define('db_server', 'xxx')')" |
[01:42:00] | Kelerion: | oops |
[01:42:00] | chris86wm: | _nero_, so just pick one and it doesnt matter? |
[01:42:00] | _nero_: | chris86wm, yeah.. you wont be using the tuner at all.. |
[01:42:00] | chris86wm: | alright |
[01:42:00] | Kelerion: | set the "define('db_server'" ro "define('db_server', '192.168.1.20')" |
[01:42:00] | Kelerion: | I think my brain has stopped working |
[01:43:00] | Kelerion: | at least I know what *I* mean.. lol |
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[01:47:00] | Kel-kippin: | okies.. am heading off to bed |
[01:47:00] | Kel-kippin: | nero.. will leave this to you :P |
[01:47:00] | Kel-kippin: | see how nice I am? |
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[01:47:00] | chris86wm: | hmm under "Video Source" in my input source menu it says "(none)" is that normal? |
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[01:48:00] | webbnetsys: | _nero_: I put in the stuff into the init file instead of the configuration, and it still failed. |
[01:49:00] | webbnetsys: | So it is isn't my configuration. |
[01:49:00] | _nero_: | ??? |
[01:49:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys, can you pastebin your config file? |
[01:49:00] | _nero_: | config/config.php |
[01:50:00] | chris86wm: | is it normal for the input connection to say "(Television)->(none)" |
[01:51:00] | chris86wm: | does that mean that i dont have a connection? |
[01:51:00] | _nero_: | chris86wm, not sure.. its been ages since I looked at mythtv-setup.. |
[01:51:00] | _nero_: | I'll look in a few minutes for ya, as I have a similar setup (directv --> card) |
[01:51:00] | chris86wm: | do you know if the ati tv wonder cards work? |
[01:52:00] | _nero_: | ahhh.. no.. they dont.. |
[01:52:00] | _nero_: | I dont think.. |
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[01:52:00] | chris86wm: | well i saw that it said the the all-in-wonder cards do not, but it said that the tv-wonder cards where different |
[01:52:00] | webbnetsys: | define('db_host', '192.168.1.7'); |
[01:52:00] | webbnetsys: | define('db_username', 'mythtv'); |
[01:52:00] | webbnetsys: | define('db_password', 'mythtv'); |
[01:52:00] | webbnetsys: | define('db_dbname', 'mythconverg'); |
[01:52:00] | _nero_: | and you still get the same db error? |
[01:52:00] | webbnetsys: | All the rest is the stuff |
[01:53:00] | chris86wm: | "NOTE: The ATI TV Wonder series and the ATI All-in-Wonder series of cards |
[01:53:00] | chris86wm: | are not the same. The All-in-Wonder cards will not work with MythTV." |
[01:53:00] | webbnetsys: | right. |
[01:53:00] | webbnetsys: | REMMEBER this is on a valud webserver that we use for developement. |
[01:53:00] | webbnetsys: | we have globals turned on, in addition to using sessions. |
[01:53:00] | _nero_: | chris86wm, maybe it will.. I'm not familiar at all with the ATI cards though, sorry.. |
[01:54:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys, globals might be the problem.. you might want to put a .htaccess file in the mythweb directory turning globals off. |
[01:54:00] | _nero_: | (you're talking magic globals, right?) |
[01:54:00] | webbnetsys: | that might be it. I'll try sec. |
[01:54:00] | webbnetsys: | globals, the bad globnals, yes. |
[01:55:00] | webbnetsys: | we are in the process of moving all the code over. |
[01:55:00] | webbnetsys: | to turn globals off, but you know how it is. |
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[01:56:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys, I sure do.. I do quite a bit of php dev myself.. |
[01:58:00] | webbnetsys: | Crap. |
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[01:58:00] | webbnetsys: | I don't know is the deal. |
[01:59:00] | _nero_: | still no go huh? No connecting to that databsae? |
[02:00:00] | _nero_: | and you're sure you have given mythtv@webserver.ip permissions in full mysql to the database? |
[02:00:00] | webbnetsys: | eevryybod on t heinternal network. |
[02:00:00] | webbnetsys: | Butt hat isn't the issue. |
[02:00:00] | webbnetsys: | I can connnect outisde the mythweb php webstuff. |
[02:00:00] | sona_: | hats what I said, but permissions was the issue :) |
[02:01:00] | webbnetsys: | I alwsys trouble shoot that first. |
[02:02:00] | _nero_: | not sure then.. if there is a problem with php not being able to connect to the database it is one of three things- 1) misconfigure of server/username/pw in the settings, 2) there is no connection between the two machines, 3) mysql on the backend machine doesnt have the proper permissions.. |
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[02:03:00] | chris86wm: | well dang |
[02:04:00] | webbnetsys: | hrm... |
[02:04:00] | webbnetsys: | I think I am going to give up for now. |
[02:05:00] | webbnetsys: | will try to hammer out stuff later. |
[02:05:00] | webbnetsys: | thanks nero. |
[02:05:00] | webbnetsys: | l8r |
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[02:06:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys, try this. |
[02:06:00] | _nero_: | on the mythbackend machine.. |
[02:06:00] | _nero_: | go into mysql as the root user.. |
[02:07:00] | _nero_: | (mysql database) and SELECT `Host` FROM `db` WHERE db=`mythconverg`; |
[02:07:00] | _nero_: | er |
[02:07:00] | _nero_: | (mysql database) and SELECT `Host`,`User` FROM `db` WHERE db=`mythconverg`; |
[02:08:00] | webbnetsys: | ok |
[02:08:00] | _nero_: | doh... lets try that one more time.. |
[02:08:00] | webbnetsys: | let me add mythfrontend on the mythbox works fine, without a flaw. (Ezxcept I am still waiting on the video card) |
[02:08:00] | _nero_: | SELECT `Host`,`User` FROM `db` WHERE Db=`mythconverg`; |
[02:09:00] | webbnetsys: | But either way it is using localhost all the way. |
[02:09:00] | _nero_: | yup.. |
[02:09:00] | _nero_: | problem is connecting from an outside server. |
[02:09:00] | webbnetsys: | yeah. |
[02:09:00] | webbnetsys: | well, of course the session crap on the mythbox. |
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[02:10:00] | webbnetsys: | so it is either I get it working on the mythbox or get it working on the fedora box. |
[02:10:00] | webbnetsys: | I am surprised that I am having problems with it on this end. |
[02:11:00] | webbnetsys: | I would figure that I would be on the downhill. |
[02:12:00] | _nero_: | that sql I gave you might not work. |
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[02:12:00] | _nero_: | I am losign my mind tonight.. |
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[02:12:00] | _nero_: | SELECT Host, User FROM `db` WHERE db='mythconverg' |
[02:12:00] | _nero_: | and unfortunately, I have to run.. |
[02:13:00] | DeltaF: | having problems with remote mysql? |
[02:13:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys is.. |
[02:14:00] | DeltaF: | ruled out firewall and selinux, right? :) |
[02:14:00] | webbnetsys: | FIREWALL DISABLED |
[02:15:00] | webbnetsys: | CRAP, I AM DOING THIS THROUGH VNC |
[02:15:00] | webbnetsys: | SEC. |
[02:15:00] | DeltaF: | which box is the mysql server? |
[02:15:00] | webbnetsys: | Sorry bout the caps lock. |
[02:16:00] | webbnetsys: | I am using vnc on the myth box. |
[02:16:00] | webbnetsys: | DeltaF: the mythbox has everything running correctly, except for mythweb |
[02:16:00] | webbnetsys: | in which I am getting a session problem. |
[02:17:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys, but mythweb is on another box, correct? |
[02:17:00] | webbnetsys: | I am also trying to get mythweb on another fedora box running so I can record away from the house. |
[02:17:00] | webbnetsys: | right. |
[02:17:00] | webbnetsys: | on the fedora box, it isn't connecting at all. |
[02:18:00] | webbnetsys: | And mythweb is complaining about the connection, BUT i CAN connect outside through mysql-client. |
[02:18:00] | webbnetsys: | nero has gone through some troubleshooting stuff, and none of it is an issue. |
[02:18:00] | DeltaF: | So it looks like a myth issue, not mysql issue? |
[02:19:00] | webbnetsys: | It is definately a mythweb issue. not a myth issue or mysql issue. |
[02:19:00] | webbnetsys: | globals turned off/on sessions turned on/off |
[02:19:00] | _nero_: | webbnetsys, did you try the query I posted? |
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[02:20:00] | webbnetsys: | I am on my desktop, now. |
[02:20:00] | webbnetsys: | _nero_: sec. |
[02:21:00] | webbnetsys: | too busy complaining. |
[02:21:00] | webbnetsys: | LOl |
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[02:23:00] | webbnetsys: | _nero_: its empty. |
[02:23:00] | _nero_: | really??? |
[02:24:00] | webbnetsys: | It is added into user, but I am getting an empty set here: |
[02:24:00] | _nero_: | do you have a mythconverg database? |
[02:24:00] | webbnetsys: | yes. |
[02:24:00] | webbnetsys: | But it looks like it didn't restrict the permissions to db. |
[02:24:00] | webbnetsys: | It is in the usertable |
[02:24:00] | webbnetsys: | though |
[02:24:00] | _nero_: | strange.. |
[02:25:00] | _nero_: | if you have a mythtv user, and they dont have any permissions on the mythconverg db, I am suprised you can access it at all. |
[02:25:00] | webbnetsys: | shoot, misspelled mythconverge |
[02:25:00] | _nero_: | heh |
[02:26:00] | webbnetsys: | mythconverg mythtv |
[02:26:00] | webbnetsys: | there was another one in there called mythtvv, but I think that is from when I was messing around with it. |
[02:26:00] | _nero_: | yeah.. that is what it should be.. |
[02:26:00] | _nero_: | anything listed? |
[02:26:00] | webbnetsys: | listed?? |
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[02:27:00] | _nero_: | when you do the query I posted, with the correct spelling |
[02:27:00] | _nero_: | or.. |
[02:27:00] | _nero_: | do you mean your myth database is mythconverge? |
[02:27:00] | webbnetsys: | Oh yes. |
[02:27:00] | webbnetsys: | mythconverge mythtv |
[02:27:00] | _nero_: | ahhhh.. |
[02:27:00] | _nero_: | in your config/config.php file, you have to change the database name to mythconverge (it is mythconverg by default) |
[02:28:00] | _nero_: | and now I really gotta run.. have to get to a meeting.. |
[02:28:00] | _nero_: | I'll bbiab though.. |
[02:28:00] | _nero_: | hope that helps a bit. |
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[02:28:00] | webbnetsys: | Ok. Thanks for your help. |
[02:28:00] | webbnetsys: | Oh OK. |
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[02:55:00] | EnterUse1Name: | hi all |
[02:55:00] | EnterUse1Name: | Why is my time zones set for the movie to start at 9:55–10:55 |
[02:55:00] | EnterUse1Name: | when the show starts at 10? |
[02:56:00] | EnterUse1Name: | the time is messed up on my recording |
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[02:57:00] | Weezey: | is there any way to record something that I'm watching live? I have it paused where I want to record it. |
[02:57:00] | NightMonkey: | EnterUse1Name: Well, are your time zones settings correct on your box for where you are? |
[02:57:00] | EnterUse1Name: | yup |
[02:57:00] | EnterUse1Name: | But its not the time zones that are messed |
[02:57:00] | EnterUse1Name: | its the times that the movie starts at |
[02:58:00] | EnterUse1Name: | it says int he database it starts at 8:55 |
[02:58:00] | EnterUse1Name: | when it really starts at 9:00 |
[02:58:00] | NightMonkey: | EnterUse1Name: Hmm, you using zap2it? |
[02:58:00] | EnterUse1Name: | yup |
[02:58:00] | EnterUse1Name: | im using zap2it |
[02:58:00] | NightMonkey: | EnterUse1Name: Well, you could file a schedule discrepancy at the forums at labs.zap2it.com. They're pretty responsive, in my experience. |
[02:58:00] | EnterUse1Name: | i just realized why i miss half the show |
[02:59:00] | EnterUse1Name: | ok thanx nightmonkey' |
[02:59:00] | NightMonkey: | But, it is normal nowadays for content providers to add 5 minutes to shows to annoy PVR users. |
[02:59:00] | Weezey: | bastards |
[02:59:00] | EnterUse1Name: | well actually |
[02:59:00] | EnterUse1Name: | they START the time 5 minuts before |
[02:59:00] | EnterUse1Name: | well zapit records it for 5 minutes befor |
[03:00:00] | NightMonkey: | EnterUse1Name: Yes, that's what I said. |
[03:00:00] | teevee: | anyone here ever use qdvdauthor? I opened an .mpg created by nuvexport-dvd in qdvdauthor, but after closing it and reopening qdvdauthor because it screwed something up it wouldn't open the same .mpg, just says "error" next to the .mpg |
[03:01:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: I like DVD Styler, myself. |
[03:01:00] | teevee: | NightMonkey: otay :) |
[03:02:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: I didn't like the weird error handling of qdvdauthor, but it has been a while since I used it. |
[03:02:00] | teevee: | NightMonkey: i'm emerging dvdstyler |
[03:02:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Make sure to get the latest. |
[03:02:00] | teevee: | qdvdauthor seems like ass |
[03:02:00] | teevee: | NightMonkey: 0.4? |
[03:03:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: 1.5_beta2 |
[03:03:00] | teevee: | far out |
[03:03:00] | teevee: | damn, 1.4 is the only one in portage |
[03:03:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: I still need to reference their docs to really "get it", but their interface makes a bit more sense to this poor brain. |
[03:04:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Yeah, I had to make an ebuild in the overlay. |
[03:04:00] | teevee: | think 1.4 might work? I'm really not in the mood to compile anything by hand right now |
[03:04:00] | teevee: | or do that either |
[03:04:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Sure, it'll work. But the new features in 1.5_b2 are really nice. |
[03:04:00] | teevee: | do you know of anything wrong with 1.4? |
[03:04:00] | teevee: | oh |
[03:04:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: I like the fact that fonts don't look all blocky on the DVDs, and the better image handling. |
[03:05:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: But, no, nothing flat out broken, in my expeirence. |
[03:05:00] | teevee: | what i really need to do instead is finish building computers for all the other tvs here that don't have one yet |
[03:05:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: qdvdauthor seemed more, well, "rickety" to me. |
[03:05:00] | teevee: | so i can just run mythfrontend on them :) |
[03:05:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: There you go :). |
[03:06:00] | teevee: | qdvdauthor is quite a bit broken for me right now, from the second try on |
[03:06:00] | teevee: | I have four computers capable of it but they're shitty gateways with proprietary AGP slots |
[03:06:00] | teevee: | regular shaped AGP cards don't fit |
[03:06:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Do check out the docs for DVD Styler. The authors really made an extra effort – very good quality, in my opinion. |
[03:07:00] | teevee: | NightMonkey: i appreciate the insight |
[03:07:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: No sweat :). |
[03:07:00] | teevee: | wonder if I can burn to an external dvd on /dev/sda |
[03:08:00] | teevee: | because i have a dvd burner in an external usb 2.0 enclosure right now |
[03:08:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Do you have a PVR-x50 card? Or a card that makes Mpeg2 captures? |
[03:08:00] | teevee: | yeah, 150, why? |
[03:08:00] | teevee: | hauppauge pvr150mce |
[03:08:00] | NightMonkey: | Ah. |
[03:08:00] | teevee: | dunno about mpeg2 though, all that myth makes is .nuv |
[03:09:00] | teevee: | afaik |
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[03:09:00] | NightMonkey: | I have a guide: https://www.ilikelinux.com/howto/pvr3502dvd |
[03:09:00] | teevee: | i used nuvexport-dvd to make the .mpg |
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[03:10:00] | Weezey: | can you open that mpeg in windows? |
[03:10:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: You know, the nuv is actually an mpg file – if you just copy the file to <filename>.mpg, it'll make happy any app that cares about the extension. |
[03:10:00] | teevee: | NightMonkey: damn |
[03:10:00] | teevee: | NightMonkey: wtf do they have nuvexport-dvd for then? |
[03:11:00] | teevee: | except to waste six hours |
[03:11:00] | teevee: | i'm looking at that site |
[03:11:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: I like <mythtvsource>/contribs/mythlink.sh to make symlinks. I modified it to make an .mpg symlink, for sharing to windows/other PCs. |
[03:11:00] | teevee: | what's this about * record using DVD profile on PVRx50 ?? |
[03:11:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: For people without PVR-x50 cards. |
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[03:12:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Yeah, I use "DVD Special 2". |
[03:12:00] | teevee: | NightMonkey: you don't have a pvr-x50? |
[03:12:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: No, I do. |
[03:12:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Er, yes, I do have a 350. |
[03:12:00] | teevee: | i thought I saw mine was set to record at 480x480 |
[03:12:00] | teevee: | i don't remember where i saw that though |
[03:13:00] | teevee: | shouldn't it be different for dvd? |
[03:13:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: 720x480 is optimal, I believe. |
[03:13:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: That's the native NTSC resolution. |
[03:13:00] | teevee: | i'll see if i can find that in mythfrontend settings |
[03:14:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Hmm. I think it might be in the mythtv-setup. But I should doc that. :) |
[03:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | 704x 720x 352x are all valid. But 720x480 is by far the most common |
[03:16:00] | teevee: | thanks, i'll see if i can find it in mythsetup |
[03:16:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: Is 480x480? Or does some scaling happen? |
[03:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't believe 480x480 is one of the valid dvd resolutions |
[03:17:00] | teevee: | nope, wasn't in mythsetup |
[03:17:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Yeah, I want to absolutely avoid having to re-encode the video, and the doc should reflect that. |
[03:17:00] | NightMonkey: | hmm |
[03:19:00] | teevee: | this is a good time to once again state that there should be more information on each menu screen |
[03:20:00] | afrosheenix: | every time I try to transcode anything it fails |
[03:21:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Ah, it is in Setup->TV Settings->Recording Profiles->MPEG-2 Encoders (PVR-250, PVR-350)-><Profile name> |
[03:22:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: It has to be set for each profile you want to use for DVDs. |
[03:22:00] | afrosheenix: | also mythburn works fine but the dvd's are unplayable on any standard dvd player past the menu |
[03:22:00] | teevee: | i found it |
[03:22:00] | teevee: | it's in some obscure place |
[03:23:00] | teevee: | NightMonkey: should i use MPEG2 PS or DVD? |
[03:24:00] | teevee: | for the stream type |
[03:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | PS is fine, I don't think setting it to DVD really does anything other than set it to PS |
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[03:24:00] | bigslam: | yo does myth work with dvi? |
[03:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | ummm huh ? |
[03:25:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: I use "DVD Special 2". Haven't tested anything else. |
[03:25:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Thanks for your input – I updated the doc. :) |
[03:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | bigslam: with DVI output of your video card ? |
[03:25:00] | bigslam: | hmm sure or 1080i |
[03:26:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Are you running 0.18.1? Or SVN? |
[03:26:00] | teevee: | NightMonkey: ok, sure :) |
[03:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Myth has no knowledge of the connector type in use. Be it vga, dvi, svideo, etc |
[03:26:00] | teevee: | 0.18.1 i think |
[03:26:00] | teevee: | i emerged it |
[03:26:00] | bigslam: | hmm does the mythtv menu run 1080i? or look sharp? |
[03:26:00] | NightMonkey: | afrosheenix: I'd say it doesn't work, then. :) |
[03:27:00] | teevee: | NightMonkey: i know you said you didn't test it, but do you know any differences between DVD, DVD Special 1, and DVD Special 2? |
[03:27:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Cool, that's what I use. |
[03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | bigslam: That's really an X configuration thing. Myth will scale to whatever resolution X is set to |
[03:27:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Not really. It might be in the mythtv.org/docs, though. |
[03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | But I've never seen X/Myth at 1080i so I don't know how clean it looks |
[03:27:00] | teevee: | NightMonkey: i'm already having a problem with dvd styler |
[03:28:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: What's up? |
[03:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | There are a couple widescreen themes which use 1280x720 images which should look fine at 1080 |
[03:28:00] | teevee: | "No handler found for image type" when i try to drag the .mpg over |
[03:28:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Does it have .mpg as the extension? |
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[03:28:00] | teevee: | yes |
[03:29:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Hmm. What does file <mpg file> say? |
[03:29:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Er "file <mpeg file>" |
[03:29:00] | teevee: | MPEG sequence, v2, program multiplex |
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[03:30:00] | orion2012_: | How long does it take an xbox frontend to boot? |
[03:30:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: Hmm.... I used dvdstyler 1.31 previously – dunno if 1.4 has some "issues". |
[03:30:00] | teevee: | NightMonkey: you mentioned something about creating symlinks for .mpg, how can I tell which file is which under /var/video? they're all like 2037_20051125190000_20051125193000.nuv |
[03:31:00] | teevee: | NightMonkey: i have a feeling qdvdauthor corrupted the .mpg |
[03:31:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: I use the <mythtv source>/contrib/mythlink.sh script. |
[03:31:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: It isn't installed with the Gentoo ebuilds – you have to download the source and extract it. |
[03:31:00] | teevee: | oh |
[03:31:00] | teevee: | i have the source in distfiles |
[03:31:00] | teevee: | i can unpack that |
[03:32:00] | EnterUse1Name: | is there any new features in the mythtv svn tree |
[03:32:00] | EnterUse1Name: | in the last 2 weeks |
[03:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | go read the commits list and find out :) |
[03:32:00] | EnterUse1Name: | lol |
[03:32:00] | EnterUse1Name: | I never could find the commits list where is it |
[03:33:00] | teevee: | mplayer plays said .mpg just fine |
[03:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-commits/ |
[03:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Follow the "Lists" link off the mythtv.org mainsite :) |
[03:33:00] | EnterUse1Name: | thanx greyfox |
[03:33:00] | teevee: | NightMonkey: i guess i could google mythlink.sh to find out how to use it |
[03:34:00] | ** GreyFoxx is in the middle of compiling svn from a few minutes ago now on a couple machines ** | |
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[03:36:00] | bigslam: | hmm a 300 foot dvi-d fiber optic cable is $2,000 |
[03:37:00] | NightMonkey: | Sorry, workstation crashed :( |
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[03:39:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: So, DVD Styler won't allow you to drag your mpg to the "workspace" at the bottom of the window? |
[03:43:00] | NightMonkey: | teevee: 'lo? |
[03:44:00] | NightMonkey: | Oh well. |
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[04:01:00] | nuonguy: | hi |
[04:02:00] | phoner: | heh, mythburn has one weird install script |
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[04:17:00] | systest: | Anyone here have a myth RPM source for SUSE 10.0? |
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[04:45:00] | GorgJr: | hey, is having a Live TV buffer of 1GB and Minimum free Live TV buffer of 1MB a good idea? |
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[04:51:00] | GorgJr: | because my video is very jittery |
[04:52:00] | GorgJr: | like freezes and jumps every second |
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[05:06:00] | pembo13: | what is the recommened format for transcoding recordings to? |
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[05:10:00] | topping: | nuonguy: yum install worked fine tonight |
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[05:18:00] | topping: | gar, no sound |
[05:18:00] | topping: | sound card working, but mythfrontend doesn't seem to be getting it |
[05:19:00] | topping: | never experienced this before |
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[05:41:00] | cwsmith: | anyone here know how to fix the blank program_listing.php problem |
[05:42:00] | cwsmith: | PHP Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 35 bytes) in /var/www/html/mythweb/includes/programs.php on line 349, referer: http://192.168.254.207/mythweb/program_listing.php?time=567894 |
[05:43:00] | cwsmith: | thats the error in my error log file for apache |
[05:43:00] | cwsmith: | so um .... |
[05:43:00] | cwsmith: | lost |
[05:43:00] | cwsmith: | lol |
[05:43:00] | topping: | running out of memory? |
[05:44:00] | cwsmith: | ya actually i think i figure it out i think i am loading too much data to apache |
[05:44:00] | cwsmith: | i think if i increase the size of allowed memory in apache it should work :) |
[05:44:00] | cwsmith: | key word i think |
[05:45:00] | cwsmith: | wonder if its php.ini or httpd.conf ? |
[05:47:00] | cwsmith: | well its php.ini :) |
[05:47:00] | cwsmith: | yep problem fixed |
[05:47:00] | cwsmith: | time to pass on to other people :) |
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[05:48:00] | cwsmith: | guess i had to much data loading somehow |
[05:48:00] | topping: | have you ever set up multiple tuner cards? |
[05:48:00] | cwsmith: | no but i am getting ready to set up two :) |
[05:48:00] | cwsmith: | now that i have everything else working finally |
[05:49:00] | cwsmith: | Using FC4 |
[05:49:00] | cwsmith: | here |
[05:49:00] | topping: | i have one dual tuner card and one single tuner card |
[05:49:00] | topping: | it's a bit confusing to say the least |
[05:49:00] | cwsmith: | ya lol |
[05:49:00] | topping: | one card is not hard tho |
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[05:58:00] | topping: | hmm 'mplayer /dev/video0' doesn't have any sound either |
[05:59:00] | GorgJr: | what vid card |
[05:59:00] | topping: | capture or video? |
[06:00:00] | topping: | capture is a Hauppauge PVR-150, video is some ATI thing |
[06:01:00] | topping: | actually i have a PVR-150 in one slot and a PVR-500 in another |
[06:01:00] | topping: | video comes in fine, mplayer reports ALSA, but no sound, and I know the sound card works because system sounds play |
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[06:12:00] | topping: | wow this is strange. can i tell if a stream has sound? |
[06:12:00] | topping: | maybe the card is weird |
[06:12:00] | topping: | (capture card) |
[06:14:00] | topping: | aha, it is the capture card |
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[06:21:00] | poop: | I added a sata drive and now grub won't boot |
[06:21:00] | poop: | Booting peecees is hard. |
[06:21:00] | poop: | Let's go shopping. |
[06:21:00] | nuonguy: | what kind of mobo? |
[06:22:00] | poop: | athlon64 |
[06:22:00] | nuonguy: | dfi? ecs? abit? |
[06:22:00] | poop: | DFI |
[06:22:00] | poop: | This silverstone case is pretty damn loud. |
[06:22:00] | nuonguy: | lanparty rev a? |
[06:22:00] | poop: | Some microatx thing with firewire. |
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[06:25:00] | nuonguy: | how far do you get into the boot proces? |
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[06:28:00] | nuonguy: | topping: cool that yum worked |
[06:28:00] | topping: | :) |
[06:28:00] | topping: | still strange i didn't get an error |
[06:28:00] | nuonguy: | yeah |
[06:28:00] | nuonguy: | I don't get it |
[06:29:00] | nuonguy: | So, I had poop's exact problem once with a DFI Lanparty mother board |
[06:30:00] | nuonguy: | Install Fedora on /dev/hda, everyhting's great |
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[06:30:00] | nuonguy: | Add a SATA drive |
[06:30:00] | nuonguy: | Suddenly no worky |
[06:30:00] | nuonguy: | Turns out, on that specific revision of that motherboard, you could use only that solitary SATA port, or you could use the IDE ports |
[06:30:00] | nuonguy: | not both |
[06:31:00] | poop: | haha |
[06:31:00] | nuonguy: | That's whay I thought |
[06:31:00] | nuonguy: | Then I started crying |
[06:31:00] | poop: | bah, send it back, get a computer |
[06:31:00] | nuonguy: | Already done did that |
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[06:32:00] | kormoc: | nuonguy, one thing I've found with mine is, I had to put it in legacy mode, in sata mode and the ide controlers still were up, even with sata |
[06:32:00] | kormoc: | but mine is a msi board |
[06:32:00] | nuonguy: | legacy mode? |
[06:32:00] | kormoc: | yeah, legacy vs native mode |
[06:33:00] | kormoc: | legacy drive support mode, vs native sata only mode |
[06:33:00] | poop: | I disabled SATA in the BIOS screen and now it boots.` |
[06:34:00] | ** poop boggles ** | |
[06:34:00] | nuonguy: | yep\ |
[06:35:00] | nuonguy: | try bios up grade? |
[06:35:00] | nuonguy: | didn't know about native vs legacy |
[06:36:00] | nuonguy: | bios setting? |
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[06:38:00] | kormoc: | yeah, it's a bios option on my mobo at least |
[06:38:00] | poop: | Looks like I have the latest bios. |
[06:38:00] | nuonguy: | yell at tech support! |
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[06:43:00] | topping: | i think i fried this PVR-150 |
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[06:44:00] | nuonguy: | why do you think so? |
[06:44:00] | topping: | well, the PVR-500 in the slot next to it works just fine |
[06:45:00] | topping: | it will encode ant races, but won't tune channels |
[06:45:00] | topping: | got the sound working, i forgot to put HcwMakoA.ROM in |
[06:46:00] | topping: | i guess i could try removing the 500 from the system before sending it in |
[06:46:00] | kormoc: | topping, might wanna try with just the 150 and see if you can get it wokring |
[06:46:00] | ** topping unscrews system ** | |
[06:49:00] | nuonguy: | Anyone know how to delete shows from the menu that aren't really there? |
[06:49:00] | topping: | so i just renewed my zap2it listings last night, i guess the servers are getting hammered in the middle of the night and they want people to start downloading in the day |
[06:49:00] | nuonguy: | heh |
[06:49:00] | nuonguy: | What I mean, is, I GUI over to my recorded shows, I try to delete them, anf of course I cannot |
[06:50:00] | nuonguy: | I look at the consle, it keep ssaying "Error: File missing" |
[06:50:00] | topping: | maybe create a dummy file and then try to delete it? |
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[06:51:00] | topping: | bummer, tuner seems dead, doesn't work when it is alone in the system either |
[06:51:00] | topping: | it's been banging around during the move tho |
[06:53:00] | nuonguy: | topping: What would I call the file? |
[06:53:00] | topping: | there's a trick to that... you have to concatenate a bunch of different numbers |
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[06:54:00] | topping: | maybe you could search the database to find the entry? |
[06:54:00] | topping: | or maybe the filename isn't in the entry |
[06:54:00] | nuonguy: | The files have like 1004 1002 prepended to them |
[06:55:00] | nuonguy: | Looks like just a date range with that number prepended |
[06:55:00] | nuonguy: | What's that number mean? |
[06:55:00] | topping: | the first four is the channel number |
[06:55:00] | topping: | then after that, I can't remember |
[06:56:00] | nuonguy: | is it perhaps 1000+channel? |
[06:56:00] | topping: | <chanid>_<starttime>_<endtime>.nuv |
[06:56:00] | nuonguy: | yeah |
[06:56:00] | topping: | did you look in /lost_and_found ? |
[06:56:00] | topping: | oh, but i guess that wouldn't have a filename |
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[07:01:00] | bsm117531: | So, can anyone tell me why mythtvbackend + mythfrontend + mysqld are using more than 500MB? My system swaps like crazy. |
[07:02:00] | nuonguy: | k |
[07:02:00] | nuonguy: | Here's what you do |
[07:03:00] | bsm117531: | PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND |
[07:03:00] | bsm117531: | 24086 mcelrath 15 0 208m 121m 14m S 23.3 24.0 2:20.28 mythfrontend |
[07:03:00] | bsm117531: | 20353 mythtv 15 0 210m 48m 11m S 40.9 9.6 249:22.69 mythbackend |
[07:03:00] | bsm117531: | 17399 mysql 16 0 115m 15m 2360 S 0.0 3.0 1:26.35 mysqld |
[07:03:00] | nuonguy: | sorry, bsm117531: don't know |
[07:03:00] | bsm117531: | is this unusual? |
[07:03:00] | bsm117531: | or is mythtv just a massive hog? |
[07:03:00] | nuonguy: | To delete those shows: start mythfrontend from a konsole session so that stdout is your output |
[07:03:00] | nuonguy: | GUI to a TV show |
[07:04:00] | topping: | is there a way to delete a single capture card in mythtv-setup? |
[07:04:00] | topping: | ahhh, 'd' |
[07:05:00] | nuonguy: | um, for a second there it was telling me on the konse: Could not find 1004_<date>_<date>.nuv |
[07:05:00] | nuonguy: | I was just saying 'touch' that file and then voila! Erase using the GUI |
[07:06:00] | nuonguy: | No working right now |
[07:06:00] | nuonguy: | what gives? |
[07:06:00] | nuonguy: | I have a bunch of these |
[07:07:00] | nuonguy: | bsm117531: How ddid you generate that table? |
[07:07:00] | nuonguy: | ps |
[07:07:00] | nuonguy: | ? |
[07:07:00] | bsm117531: | top. |
[07:07:00] | nuonguy: | then hit m? |
[07:07:00] | bsm117531: | yes |
[07:09:00] | nuonguy: | http://pastebin.com/452098 |
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[07:11:00] | topping: | dammit, they dropped "super milk chan" since the last time i had a cable hookup |
[07:11:00] | bsm117531: | nuonguy: do you know what mythbackend is using? |
[07:11:00] | nuonguy: | bsm117531: http://pastebin.com/452099 : |
[07:12:00] | bsm117531: | ok a little lower than me but still a hell of a lot. |
[07:12:00] | bsm117531: | Mythbackend should be grabbing frames and dumping them to disk. Why does that take 200M? |
[07:12:00] | nuonguy: | yeah |
[07:12:00] | nuonguy: | ? |
[07:12:00] | kormoc: | it doesn't |
[07:12:00] | nuonguy: | How much RAM in your machine? |
[07:12:00] | bsm117531: | 512M |
[07:12:00] | kormoc: | the virtual isn't actually used percey |
[07:13:00] | kormoc: | the Res and SHR is the important ones |
[07:13:00] | bsm117531: | I know, but if you turn on the SHR field, the actual usage is close to VIRT-SHR. |
[07:13:00] | bsm117531: | and SHR is ~10MB for these processes. |
[07:16:00] | kormoc: | the virt includes cached files as well, iirc |
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[07:16:00] | kormoc: | so it's caching ~190 megs of recordings, but that's 'free' memory if it's ever needed |
[07:16:00] | Flimzy: | Has anyone here successfully compiled mythtv with firewire support? |
[07:17:00] | bsm117531: | kormoc: that's inexcusable. |
[07:17:00] | kormoc: | bsm117531, ooh? why's that? |
[07:17:00] | bsm117531: | There's no need to cache streaming recordings. |
[07:17:00] | bsm117531: | It's a kernel problem, I've looked at this before... |
[07:17:00] | kormoc: | bsm117531, how's the kernel to know it's a streaming record? |
[07:17:00] | bsm117531: | O_STREAMING |
[07:18:00] | bsm117531: | ooh http://www.nexusuk.org/projects/mythtv/patches/o_streaming |
[07:19:00] | bsm117531: | rather old. What became of this? |
[07:21:00] | nuonguy: | bsm117531: what do you do for a living? |
[07:21:00] | kormoc: | I don't have O_STREAMING in my kernel includes |
[07:21:00] | bsm117531: | theoretical physics. |
[07:21:00] | nuonguy: | fun |
[07:21:00] | bsm117531: | It's an experimental patch from ~3 years ago, was never accepted into mainline kernel. |
[07:21:00] | bsm117531: | linux still sucks for streaming because they haven't dealt with it. |
[07:21:00] | kormoc: | no, that patch is for mythtv |
[07:21:00] | kormoc: | ooh |
[07:21:00] | kormoc: | I see |
[07:21:00] | kormoc: | nm |
[07:21:00] | bsm117531: | O_STREAMING requires a kernel patch too. |
[07:22:00] | bsm117531: | I'm looking for a more modern patch, since mythtv does set the O_STREAMING flag if it is defined. |
[07:22:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
[07:22:00] | bsm117531: | nuonguy: why? |
[07:23:00] | nuonguy: | need a job? |
[07:23:00] | kormoc: | is it a job at cern? |
[07:23:00] | nuonguy: | no |
[07:23:00] | kormoc: | drat |
[07:23:00] | nuonguy: | it's a programming/linux job |
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[07:24:00] | bsm117531: | no, I'm rather happy with my job. thanks. ;) |
[07:24:00] | bsm117531: | I don't work at CERN now, but I used to. |
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[07:26:00] | Bonkers: | so what could i have done wrong with this mythweb install? apache2 and php5 are installed, php is enable, AllowOverride All, .htaccess in place, my password setup worked using basic auth, but when I try to load up mythweb in a browser, I just get a completely blank page |
[07:26:00] | Bonkers: | if I try going directly to program_listings.php, same thing |
[07:26:00] | Bonkers: | got the right db server address/login in .htaccess also |
[07:26:00] | Ginsu_Squirrel: | anything in the apache log? |
[07:26:00] | Bonkers: | nope |
[07:27:00] | kormoc: | Bonkers, there's an odd issue with php5 just silently dieing rather then returning an error... |
[07:28:00] | Bonkers: | the mythweb readme said something about mod_env though, and that doesn't seem to exist with apache2 on debian |
[07:28:00] | Bonkers: | either that or you just can't disable it |
[07:28:00] | Bonkers: | and I was just using php4 and upgraded to php5 |
[07:28:00] | kormoc: | it does, it's just built in |
[07:28:00] | Bonkers: | figured that would fix it |
[07:28:00] | kormoc: | Bonkers, apache2 -l will list the built in modules |
[07:29:00] | Bonkers: | yep, it's there |
[07:30:00] | Bonkers: | I also made sure to enable mod_rewrite |
[07:32:00] | Bonkers: | ok, it's gotta be something with the .htaccess |
[07:32:00] | Bonkers: | I get a blank page for anything in the directory whether it exists or not |
[07:32:00] | Bonkers: | and i just went back to php4 |
[07:36:00] | nuonguy: | I have an saa7134 tuner card as /dev/video1 and I have an ivtv tuner card as /dev/video0 |
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[07:36:00] | nuonguy: | I can use mplayer/tvtime to watch them sepearately |
[07:37:00] | nuonguy: | I can run mythtv and watch tv and record shows |
[07:37:00] | nuonguy: | What I cannot do is watch or record using the /dev/video1 saa7134 tuner |
[07:37:00] | nuonguy: | Why? |
[07:38:00] | Bonkers: | so no more ideas on the mythweb problem? |
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[07:46:00] | Flimzy: | main.cpp:(.text+0x1e2): undefined reference to `std::basic_string<char, std::cha |
[07:46:00] | Flimzy: | r_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >::_S_empty_rep_storage' |
[07:46:00] | Flimzy: | Does this mean I'm missing some needed dev librarires? |
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[07:54:00] | eiggirC: | awww buggerit – the saa7134 depends on a sound card |
[07:54:00] | eiggirC: | all I want is a simple frame grabber |
[07:54:00] | eiggirC: | *grump* |
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[08:00:00] | Flimzy: | what's the trick to getting myth to compile on amd64? |
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[08:22:00] | nuonguy: | Flimzy: I couldn't even get forcedeth to work on x86_64 |
[08:22:00] | nuonguy: | So I'm just running i386 on my athlon64 |
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[08:28:00] | Juski: | good morning |
[08:29:00] | Xenna: | nuonguy: I'm doing the same thing |
[08:29:00] | Xenna: | Fedora i386 on an amd64 |
[08:29:00] | Xenna: | Morning juski |
[08:29:00] | Xenna: | My colleague likes your theme |
[08:31:00] | nuonguy: | Where did you setup fail? |
[08:31:00] | nuonguy: | Er, I mean, what was it that made you go i386 in and64? |
[08:31:00] | Xenna: | I just installed according to the myth on Fedora howto |
[08:32:00] | nuonguy: | What kind of motherboard? |
[08:32:00] | Juski: | Xenna: cool :) |
[08:32:00] | nuonguy: | Did you try x86_64? |
[08:32:00] | Juski: | some of the graphics I used _might_ have to change though |
[08:32:00] | Xenna: | It all seemed pretty unstablke, mythfrontend crashed on startup unless I deleted all pulugins |
[08:32:00] | nuonguy: | You got further than I did |
[08:33:00] | Xenna: | Coulda been just a typo though |
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[08:33:00] | Xenna: | I didn't compile |
[08:33:00] | Xenna: | I have a MSI Neo2 motherboard Socket 939 |
[08:33:00] | ** nuonguy ECS nForce3 ** | |
[08:34:00] | Xenna: | The i386 stuff works well except that my PVR350 and PVR500 won't work together |
[08:34:00] | Xenna: | nforce3 yes |
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[08:40:00] | nuonguy: | any hope of ever getting MythFM integrated into the myth source tree? |
[08:40:00] | nuonguy: | http://mythextra.napsi.net/mythFM.html |
[08:42:00] | Chutt: | not until it's written properly, no. |
[08:42:00] | nuonguy: | How does it need to be written? |
[08:42:00] | Chutt: | integrated into mythmusic. |
[08:42:00] | nuonguy: | The current patch doesn't seem to work against 0-18-fixes |
[08:42:00] | nuonguy: | As opposed to? |
[08:42:00] | Chutt: | not my problem. |
[08:42:00] | Chutt: | completely separate? |
[08:42:00] | nuonguy: | Oh |
[08:43:00] | nuonguy: | wait |
[08:43:00] | nuonguy: | I don't quite get it |
[08:43:00] | Juski: | it's probably worth someone taking a look it it |
[08:43:00] | nuonguy: | You're saying it should be just a mythplugin |
[08:43:00] | nuonguy: | or added to mythmusic? |
[08:43:00] | nuonguy: | Why did he do it this way? |
[08:44:00] | nuonguy: | Anyone in touch with him? |
[08:44:00] | Juski: | it's probably not a good thing to have all these myriad plugins.. think how big the menus could end up! |
[08:44:00] | nuonguy: | He has a suggestions link: http://mythextra.napsi.net/suggestions.html |
[08:44:00] | Chutt: | i've told him before. |
[08:44:00] | nuonguy: | Does he have a reason, good or bad, for doing it the way he did |
[08:44:00] | nuonguy: | ? |
[08:44:00] | Chutt: | the patch is just a hack |
[08:44:00] | Chutt: | it's not done properly |
[08:45:00] | Chutt: | it also needs to have hooks into the backend so it doesn't break recording tv, either. |
[08:45:00] | nuonguy: | That's a downer |
[08:45:00] | nuonguy: | I didn't know about that |
[08:45:00] | nuonguy: | Kinda defeats the purpose |
[08:46:00] | nuonguy: | Are there any other contenders for the job of an FM Radio plugin? |
[08:46:00] | Chutt: | no. |
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[08:46:00] | Juski: | that's a little holiday project for somebody, eh? |
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[08:47:00] | Juski: | I'm eagerly watching the progress of DVB radio recording to see how that's coming along |
[08:47:00] | nuonguy: | Do you have an API that I could program to, to write an FM Radio app/plugin? |
[08:47:00] | Chutt: | uh, yes? |
[08:48:00] | nuonguy: | V4L or something like that? |
[08:48:00] | Juski: | nuonguy: everything is very well documented |
[08:48:00] | Juski: | there's even a 'how to write for mythtv' guide somewhere |
[08:48:00] | nuonguy: | Even how to talk to an ivtv/saa7134 radio device? |
[08:48:00] | nuonguy: | Sorry – I've barely programmed in Linux |
[08:48:00] | Juski: | now _that_ you might need to borrow from mythFM ;) |
[08:49:00] | Chutt: | generally, if someone asks those types of questions, they're not going to be doing anything :p |
[08:49:00] | nuonguy: | I'm not going to do anything |
[08:50:00] | Juski: | if someone who can code wants it badly enough, they'll work on it |
[08:51:00] | nuonguy: | Not me |
[08:51:00] | nuonguy: | I'm just going to keep asking someone else to do it |
[08:51:00] | nuonguy: | :-) |
[08:51:00] | Juski: | lol |
[08:52:00] | nuonguy: | So Juski, how would you feel about writing an FM radio myth plugin? |
[08:52:00] | nuonguy: | :-()) |
[08:52:00] | Juski: | I can barely code, but I wouldn't mind having a go |
[08:53:00] | nuonguy: | How about you, Chutt? |
[08:53:00] | Juski: | thing is, doing it without breaking anything won't be easy |
[08:53:00] | Chutt: | uh, no. |
[08:53:00] | nuonguy: | No worries there! Myth has a great nightly build / test regression suite already built! Just run that! |
[08:53:00] | nuonguy: | right, Chutt? |
[08:54:00] | Chutt: | yup |
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[08:55:00] | Juski: | bear in mind that it took me a whole weekend to write a small (working) patch for the DBOX2 EPG stuff... and that was just adding one function |
[08:55:00] | nuonguy: | Could I create an SVN branch and get that build and tested nightly? |
[08:55:00] | Chutt: | no. |
[08:55:00] | Bonkers: | why not just test it on your own computer? |
[08:56:00] | nuonguy: | I've never worked on any open source project, so please forgive the dumm questions and say RTFM if all these questions are answered |
[08:56:00] | nuonguy: | Well, cuz, like, at work, if I do a commit, then we want the whole system built with my crappy hacks and to see if the system still limps along with my cruft added to the system |
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[08:58:00] | nuonguy: | man, I can never understand why people are afraid of lines longer than 80 chars |
[08:58:00] | nuonguy: | Are we still stuck with printers from the 1970s? |
[08:58:00] | sona_: | whois afraid ? |
[08:58:00] | Juski: | nuonguy: some people still edit source with pure text editors in terminal sessions |
[08:59:00] | Juski: | and it helps keep code readable |
[08:59:00] | nuonguy: | in third world countries maybe |
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[08:59:00] | Juski: | if your code can't be read by a human being, what's the point? |
[08:59:00] | nuonguy: | I beleive that it actually hinders readability |
[08:59:00] | nuonguy: | I agree with that |
[08:59:00] | nuonguy: | that's why I do reasonably long lines |
[08:59:00] | Chutt: | yes, because scrolling back and forth is easier to read. |
[08:59:00] | ** kartom points out she likes her old fashioned vi ** | |
[09:00:00] | nuonguy: | Tell me, how many myth developers have monitors that cannot do at least 1280x1024? |
[09:00:00] | Xenna: | Even VI can do pretty long lines |
[09:00:00] | nuonguy: | I'd guess zero |
[09:00:00] | Chutt: | you're going to make everyone have the same minimum width? |
[09:00:00] | nuonguy: | That's what the standard calls for: http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/CodingStandards |
[09:00:00] | kartom: | but why strain my eyes, 14hrs infront of a monitor |
[09:00:00] | Juski: | guess again. I was working in 1280x1024.. and I used nano to edit the source I was working on |
[09:01:00] | nuonguy: | It's a nice page, but for that |
[09:01:00] | Chutt: | no |
[09:01:00] | nuonguy: | Juski: That's what I said |
[09:01:00] | Chutt: | you're going to make everyone run full-screen text editors? |
[09:01:00] | Chutt: | with the same high minimum character width? |
[09:01:00] | nuonguy: | no |
[09:02:00] | Chutt: | so, then, scrolling back and forth is easier to read? |
[09:02:00] | nuonguy: | Besides, as Chutt knows full well, lotsa people would rather argue brainless coding conventions rather than actually write working code :-) |
[09:03:00] | nuonguy: | I'm definitly with Chutt on the scrolling back and forth; totally messes with my fu/flow/ki/thinking |
[09:03:00] | Juski: | yes nuonguy: you're living proof ;) |
[09:03:00] | nuonguy: | I'm just trying to fit in |
[09:03:00] | ** kartom sighs ** | |
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[09:04:00] | Chutt: | 80 character lines means that nobody has to scroll left & right to read code. |
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[09:04:00] | nuonguy: | good point |
[09:04:00] | nuonguy: | long lines means less scrolling up and down |
[09:05:00] | Chutt: | editors do that a lot better. |
[09:05:00] | Juski: | yes, but in the 21st century people have mouses with scrolly wheels ;) |
[09:05:00] | Bonkers: | who uses a mouse for editting code? |
[09:05:00] | Xenna: | Web page research says that people absolutely hate horizontal scrolling |
[09:06:00] | nuonguy: | I hadn't thought of that either |
[09:06:00] | Xenna: | Well, I guess we all knew that |
[09:06:00] | nuonguy: | but I do use a full screen editor and try to even remove the horizontal & vertical scroll bars from my apps |
[09:06:00] | nuonguy: | I didn't know that |
[09:06:00] | Bonkers: | full-screen editor? wow, that's a big window |
[09:06:00] | Chutt: | full-screen is different size on different computers |
[09:06:00] | Chutt: | depends on your font, etc. |
[09:06:00] | Xenna: | http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20050711.html |
[09:07:00] | ** kartoAWAY bangs her head on her desk trying to pour a mug of coffee ** | |
[09:07:00] | Chutt: | and i couldn't code with one full-screen window. |
[09:07:00] | Xenna: | "Avoid horizontal scrolling on Web pages and minimize it elsewhere." |
[09:07:00] | Chutt: | that's.. barbaric |
[09:07:00] | nuonguy: | At work it's a 1280x1024 monitor and then a 1024x768 monitor: It's an older laptop |
[09:08:00] | nuonguy: | barbaric? |
[09:08:00] | Bonkers: | if I make my xemacs with a decently sized font full-screen, I get 187 characters on a line |
[09:08:00] | nuonguy: | Barbaric, as in, productive? |
[09:08:00] | Bonkers: | 12pt font |
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[09:08:00] | Xenna: | Well I'm still at 80 characters, even though I probably won't submit my code anyway |
[09:09:00] | nuonguy: | I always tease people who hard wrap at 80 characters with snarky comments about 70s printers |
[09:09:00] | nuonguy: | It's way more fun that actually testing my drivel that passes for code |
[09:10:00] | Xenna: | I have this seventies printer in my closet that can do a lot more than 80 ch/line |
[09:10:00] | Xenna: | It's one of those old chain feed wide matrix things |
[09:10:00] | nuonguy: | cool |
[09:10:00] | Xenna: | I'm thinking I'll find a useful task for it sometime |
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[09:11:00] | nuonguy: | If you're even inclined to recycle it, consider giving to anyone who thinks lines should be wrapped at 80 characters |
[09:11:00] | Xenna: | It's nice and retro to have it occasionally print out a line |
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[09:11:00] | nuonguy: | It'll give them more viewing area than they're using |
[09:11:00] | Xenna: | ;) |
[09:11:00] | Xenna: | I'll remember that |
[09:11:00] | Juski: | right. time to head off to work |
[09:11:00] | Juski: | :-/ |
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[09:12:00] | nuonguy: | At this time of night? |
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[09:12:00] | nuonguy: | So |
[09:12:00] | nuonguy: | Nice weather we're having, huh? |
[09:12:00] | Xenna: | I'm already at work |
[09:13:00] | nuonguy: | What do you do? |
[09:13:00] | nuonguy: | I want your job |
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[09:14:00] | nuonguy: | wow |
[09:14:00] | nuonguy: | useit.com is pretty cool |
[09:14:00] | Xenna: | I'm not sure what I do exactly |
[09:14:00] | Xenna: | ;) |
[09:14:00] | nuonguy: | I have a few things you could put on your to-do list, if that'll help you out... |
[09:15:00] | Xenna: | No I'm fine |
[09:15:00] | Xenna: | I'll go on holiday in a few days |
[09:16:00] | nuonguy: | You sure? |
[09:16:00] | nuonguy: | You could write a myth FM radio plugin... |
[09:16:00] | nuonguy: | I would certainly be grateful for that... |
[09:16:00] | Xenna: | I'm already writing a slimserver to lirc plugin |
[09:16:00] | Xenna: | More useful to me |
[09:16:00] | nuonguy: | what's slimserver? |
[09:17:00] | Xenna: | Ever heard of a SqueezeBox? |
[09:17:00] | nuonguy: | no |
[09:17:00] | Xenna: | http://www.slimdevices.com/ |
[09:18:00] | nuonguy: | nifty |
[09:18:00] | Xenna: | They're sort of a combination of a networked lcd display, networked audio interface |
[09:19:00] | nuonguy: | so how do these things work? |
[09:19:00] | Xenna: | And a networked IR interface |
[09:19:00] | nuonguy: | What is a networked audio interface? Is it like the relationship between itunes and airport express? |
[09:19:00] | Xenna: | All intelligence is in the server software which runs on a Windows/OSX/Linux box |
[09:19:00] | Xenna: | Yes, similar |
[09:20:00] | nuonguy: | ok |
[09:20:00] | Xenna: | xcept the airport has no display or ir |
[09:20:00] | Xenna: | If you want to get a feel for it, download and install the slimserver package |
[09:20:00] | Xenna: | And run the 'softsqueeze' client |
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[09:21:00] | Xenna: | The client is a simulation of the normal squeezebox hardware |
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[09:21:00] | nuonguy: | does the squeezebox run a web server so that a user can configure it? |
[09:21:00] | Xenna: | I have two hardware clients that I use to control my MythTV box |
[09:21:00] | Xenna: | No, the squeezebox itself is like a dumb terminal |
[09:21:00] | Xenna: | The slimserver has a webserver |
[09:22:00] | Xenna: | The great thing about it is that the server is written in Perl and has an open structure with plugins |
[09:22:00] | nuonguy: | cool |
[09:22:00] | Xenna: | so you can plugin things like... lirc |
[09:22:00] | nuonguy: | did you work on it? |
[09:22:00] | Xenna: | no, I did some plugins and extensions |
[09:23:00] | Xenna: | Lik this one: http://videobox.sourceforge.net/ |
[09:23:00] | Xenna: | It's sort of like a play only mythtv that runs on Windows |
[09:24:00] | Xenna: | It's what I used at home before I started with MythTV |
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[09:39:00] | Chutt: | i need to make trac only allow logged in people the ability to change severity/priority. |
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[09:54:00] | ivor: | Chutt: indeed I think it needs doing. just let them have TICKET_APPEND. |
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[10:19:00] | Chutt: | hrmph |
[10:19:00] | Chutt: | just upgraded trac, and it's not showing ticket changes in the timeline |
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[10:27:00] | ivor: | Chutt: in your trac.ini have you now got -> "[timeline] ticket_show_details = false" |
[10:28:00] | Chutt: | nope |
[10:28:00] | Chutt: | it's 'true'. |
[10:28:00] | Chutt: | it's only not showing _new_ ticket changes. |
[10:29:00] | ivor: | hmm no thats something else. |
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[10:36:00] | Chutt: | hrm |
[10:36:00] | Chutt: | actually |
[10:37:00] | Chutt: | it doesn't show _any_ ticket changes |
[10:39:00] | ivor: | but it shows old tickets. weird. |
[10:40:00] | Chutt: | in fact, i don't see any code to show ticket changes in there. |
[10:40:00] | Chutt: | well, not appending stuff |
[10:40:00] | Chutt: | just opens, closes, and reopens |
[10:41:00] | ivor: | oh I see what you mean now. :) did it ever show changes? |
[10:41:00] | Chutt: | i dunno |
[10:41:00] | Chutt: | i thought it did |
[10:43:00] | Chutt: | ah |
[10:43:00] | Chutt: | i had to select 'ticket details'. |
[10:43:00] | ivor: | aha. doh!! |
[10:43:00] | Chutt: | it's not on by default |
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[11:26:00] | jono: | hi all |
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[11:31:00] | juski: | hey jono.. how's it going? |
[11:31:00] | jono: | juski, good, you? |
[11:31:00] | juski: | yeh not bad. been metal bashing today.. I just 'love' cutting metal |
[11:36:00] | juski: | it's not in my job description either ;) |
[11:37:00] | Xenna: | Job descriptions are so confining... |
[11:39:00] | juski: | if I stuck to mine I'd never get anything done |
[11:39:00] | Xenna: | For some reason I always hate my descriptions |
[11:40:00] | Xenna: | and do my best to do something else |
[11:41:00] | jono: | juski, just blogged about some problems at http://www.jonobacon.org/ – could you have a look and comment if anything jumps to mind – I have a meeting now so can't stick around, cheers |
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[12:59:00] | jono: | hi all |
[12:59:00] | jono: | thanks for the tips juski, ivor |
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[13:05:00] | juski: | no problem jono |
[13:06:00] | juski: | are you that strapped for CPU that even mythfilldatabase makes tv playback jerky though? |
[13:06:00] | jono: | juski it seems so |
[13:06:00] | juski: | what speed's your CPU? |
[13:06:00] | jono: | and this is a powerful 64bit AMD box with a gig of ram |
[13:07:00] | jono: | I think its 2ghz |
[13:07:00] | juski: | hmmm there must be something else afoot |
[13:07:00] | jono: | hmmm |
[13:07:00] | jono: | I did have database errors a while back but I thought I had resolved them, maybe I should rebuild the database |
[13:07:00] | jono: | I have tomorrow and friday off to look at this |
[13:08:00] | jono: | another thing, has any work gone into removing the two second gap between changing channels? I want to reduce it if possible to allow quick channel changing |
[13:08:00] | juski: | 2 seconds is pretty quick acutally |
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[13:09:00] | juski: | or you could try the SVN version, where livetv has been rejigged somewhat |
[13:09:00] | jono: | oh really |
[13:09:00] | jono: | how much quicker is it? |
[13:10:00] | juski: | I'd love to know how STBs have such quick channel changes. wonder if anyone's looked into what makes dreambox et al so quick |
[13:10:00] | jono: | yeah |
[13:11:00] | juski: | I don't know how much quicker it is.. the only system I have SVN running on right now is dog slow anyway |
[13:12:00] | jono: | right |
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[13:22:00] | juski: | time to do some work again |
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[13:31:00] | Kel-kippin: | jono – what are you using for your capture card? pvr or freeview? |
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[13:32:00] | jono: | Kelerion, pvr-350 |
[13:32:00] | Kelerion: | btw.. listening to the review of myth last night – nicely done |
[13:32:00] | Kelerion: | listened..even |
[13:33:00] | Kelerion: | so your using a ir-blaster type cable to your sky/cable? |
[13:33:00] | jono: | Kelerion, cheers :) |
[13:33:00] | jono: | Kelerion, no, using a sky channel changer unit |
[13:34:00] | Kelerion: | the heenan one? been meaning to look at that |
[13:36:00] | Kelerion: | thats interesting though – I presumed that unit would make channel changing instantaneous |
[13:36:00] | jono: | yeah |
[13:36:00] | jono: | brb |
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[13:40:00] | fir3st0rm: | hi |
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[13:41:00] | fir3st0rm: | how can i get the option "shutdown system" in shutdown dialog? |
[13:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't think you can if you are running a backend on that same machine |
[13:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | unless you edit the code. It's a 1 line change last time I looked |
[13:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | but that was a long time ago, it might be optional now *goes to look* |
[13:51:00] | fir3st0rm: | i installed it from rpm and i don't want to compile it manually ;) |
[13:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | running 0.18 ? |
[13:52:00] | fir3st0rm: | yeah |
[13:52:00] | fir3st0rm: | i wanted something stable ;) |
[13:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | A release is merely a snapshot of svn, nothing more :) |
[13:55:00] | fir3st0rm: | yeah but it's a more stable snapshot imo ^^ |
[13:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | nah, sometimes that's true but for the mostpart svn is just as stable |
[13:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | certain parts might be undergoing working at an y given time, but for the mostpart that doesn't affect most users |
[13:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's like namebrand shoes versus noname shoes. people have themselves convinced that namebrand is better :) |
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[13:57:00] | fir3st0rm: | i tried the svn but i didn't like it |
[13:58:00] | fir3st0rm: | some things were wrong so i devided to switch back |
[13:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | To each their own I guess :) |
[13:59:00] | Kelerion: | I usually always use svn.. but I went to release while they're working on livetv.. am dying to give that a try now though.. lol |
[14:00:00] | fir3st0rm: | when .19 is out i'll give it a try again ;) |
[14:00:00] | _nero_: | Kelerion, I love the new livetv setup.. |
[14:00:00] | _nero_: | if you have a pvr card, it works fine.. |
[14:00:00] | Kelerion: | it's working alright now? |
[14:00:00] | Kelerion: | got a 250 |
[14:00:00] | _nero_: | yeah, thats what I have, and it works great.. |
[14:01:00] | _nero_: | only thing missing, is the progress bar doesn't update if you pause.. |
[14:01:00] | ** Kelerion gets more tempted ** | |
[14:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | for me channel changes sped up |
[14:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | _nero_: I thought I saw a commit yesterday or the day before fixing that |
[14:01:00] | _nero_: | GreyFoxx, ya know, I think you are right.. :) |
[14:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I could be wrong |
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[14:01:00] | _nero_: | GreyFoxx, nice.. I'll have to update.. |
[14:01:00] | Kelerion: | have an external cable box. .so not sure channel changes would be much different |
[14:01:00] | _nero_: | Kelerion, so do I.. |
[14:01:00] | _nero_: | but the way it does the buffering is different.. |
[14:02:00] | Kelerion: | ahh |
[14:02:00] | _nero_: | Is it a known bug that occasionally when the show changes, the livetv bit freezes up? (this has happened to me a couple of times when not time-shifted) |
[14:02:00] | Kelerion: | am supposed to be working!! argh.. yer a bad influence nero.. lol |
[14:02:00] | _nero_: | haha. |
[14:02:00] | _nero_: | so am I.. |
[14:02:00] | _nero_: | (supposed to be working that is) |
[14:03:00] | fir3st0rm: | i had some problems removing software i compiled is it possible to remove mythtv svn install completely? |
[14:03:00] | juski: | me too.. oh wait I'm doing both |
[14:03:00] | _nero_: | fir3st0rm, did you try make uninstall ? |
[14:03:00] | fir3st0rm: | yeah |
[14:03:00] | _nero_: | what did it leave? |
[14:03:00] | fir3st0rm: | for some programs it didn't work |
[14:04:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. what the hell .. I got 6 hours before the wife gets home.. lol |
[14:04:00] | fir3st0rm: | just wanna know if it works correctly for mythtv svn |
[14:04:00] | Kelerion: | wish me luck.. lol |
[14:04:00] | _nero_: | oh.. I think so.. it has worked for me... |
[14:04:00] | _nero_: | GL Kelerion |
[14:04:00] | fir3st0rm: | ok tnx |
[14:05:00] | _nero_: | ugh. the clock on this machine sucks.. |
[14:06:00] | _nero_: | off by 4–6 seconds every 10 minutes or so.. |
[14:06:00] | fir3st0rm: | some time ago i had some problems with the clock on windows too... |
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[14:12:00] | braniff: | do debian myth packages exist ??? |
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[14:14:00] | fir3st0rm: | |
[14:15:00] | fir3st0rm: | also nicht /etc/rc.local sondern die andere die userspezifisch ist |
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[14:28:00] | Kelerion: | ok. .all deps installed and old myth removed.. so compiling |
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[14:30:00] | marc_gerges: | good afternoon |
[14:30:00] | marc_gerges: | trying to install myth from svn on to a new debian sarge box |
[14:31:00] | marc_gerges: | and my troubles seem to start at a lengthy query it tries to send to mysql |
[14:32:00] | marc_gerges: | the query is in http://pastebin.ca/32791 |
[14:33:00] | juski: | looks about right.. create the dtv_multiplex table if it doesn't exist... |
[14:33:00] | marc_gerges: | I suppose my problem comes from myth expecting another version of mysql than what debian provides. But couldn't find any info as to what the minimum is |
[14:33:00] | juski: | try going the other way, marc ;) |
[14:33:00] | juski: | i.e. maybe your mysql version is too new |
[14:33:00] | marc_gerges: | it's 4.0.24... hardly new |
[14:33:00] | marc_gerges: | :-) |
[14:34:00] | juski: | or am I getting mysql confused with QT again? |
[14:34:00] | juski: | :-/ |
[14:34:00] | juski: | hmm I'm on the same version here, so it's not that |
[14:36:00] | marc_gerges: | the Mysql error is in http://pastebin.ca/32792 |
[14:36:00] | juski: | yeh that looks like a version issue |
[14:36:00] | laga: | marc_gerges: well, mythtv from SVN works fine on debian sarge for me |
[14:37:00] | laga: | well, i'm not using DVB, though |
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[14:37:00] | Kelerion: | is it coming up with an error? |
[14:37:00] | marc_gerges: | laga, neither am i |
[14:38:00] | marc_gerges: | this is after configure, make, make install, mysql < mc.sql, mythtv-setup |
[14:38:00] | marc_gerges: | the very first screen |
[14:39:00] | marc_gerges: | mythtv-setup plays over it in the gui, but later all stuff turns weird because it can't access tables |
[14:39:00] | marc_gerges: | that's when I went back and checked wath mythtv-setup was trying to do |
[14:40:00] | Kelerion: | that sql ran fine on my fc4 machine with 4.1.14 of mysql |
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[14:44:00] | marc_gerges: | I am still supposed to run mysql < mc.sql before starting mythtv-setup, right? |
[14:44:00] | Kelerion: | but not on a 3.23.58 mysql |
[14:44:00] | Kelerion: | doesn't like CURRENT_TIMESTAMP |
[14:45:00] | marc_gerges: | I actually did a 'select current_timestamp' on the CLI and it was happy to return it. |
[14:48:00] | Xenna: | select now()+0 ? |
[14:49:00] | otwin: | i have 'mysqld Ver 4.0.24_Debian' and could test it for you – but svn/trac seems to be down |
[14:49:00] | otwin: | can someone make available that mc.sql from svn? |
[14:49:00] | marc_gerges: | it's in pastebin. |
[14:49:00] | laga: | otwin: you can browse the svn source at svn.mythtv.org |
[14:49:00] | otwin: | it's down |
[14:50:00] | laga: | ok |
[14:50:00] | Kelerion: | yup.. it's down |
[14:50:00] | marc_gerges: | the query that goes wrong... http://pastebin.ca/32791 |
[14:51:00] | otwin: | marc_gerges: same problem here |
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[14:51:00] | marc_gerges: | the mc.sql is just creating db and user |
[14:51:00] | marc_gerges: | thanks otwin |
[14:51:00] | marc_gerges: | is this worth creating a bug? |
[14:52:00] | marc_gerges: | can I do that as lowly user? |
[14:53:00] | Krazylegz: | What's wrong with that query? |
[14:53:00] | ** Krazylegz looks at the log ** | |
[14:53:00] | marc_gerges: | If I knew... my SQL knowledge is limited... |
[14:53:00] | Krazylegz: | It doesn't work? |
[14:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Works fine for me. |
[14:53:00] | otwin: | mysql 4.0.24 on debian doesn't like it |
[14:54:00] | marc_gerges: | what version mysql? |
[14:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, I used 4.1.14. |
[14:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Right, doesn't work on 4.0.22. |
[14:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | hrm |
[14:55:00] | otwin: | marc_gerges: may be 'apt-get install mysql-server-4.1' would help ;-) |
[14:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | marcus2: Can you send me the complete output of mythtv-setup when you launch it and get that error ? |
[14:56:00] | marc_gerges: | GreyFoxx, was that for me? |
[14:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes, sorry |
[14:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you put it up on pastebin I'll take a look |
[14:56:00] | marc_gerges: | yes I can, just not right now. It'll be 45 minutes – is that ok? |
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[14:56:00] | Krazylegz: | "Beginning with MySQL 4.1.2, you have more flexible control over when automatic TIMESTAMP initialization and updating occur and which column should have those behaviors." |
[14:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sure, or better email it to me, I'll look then |
[14:57:00] | Kelerion: | ok.. all working so far nero. .lol |
[14:57:00] | marc_gerges: | Krazylegz, would make sense |
[14:57:00] | marc_gerges: | GreyFoxx, ok |
[14:57:00] | marc_gerges: | thanks |
[14:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | marcus2: What revision of svn is it ? |
[14:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | err marc_gerges |
[14:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | darn nick complete |
[14:58:00] | marc_gerges: | Greyfoxx, one from yersterday evening, one from this morning |
[14:58:00] | marc_gerges: | where can I see the number= |
[14:58:00] | marc_gerges: | ? |
[14:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | I updated mine last night without error |
[14:58:00] | Krazylegz: | In the version of Myth that I have installed, that "on update CURRENT_TIMESTAMP" set for that field of that table. Might be able to try that and see if Myth will work okay? |
[14:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | go ihnto the source and type "svn info" |
[14:59:00] | marc_gerges: | 8143 |
[14:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | k |
[14:59:00] | laga: | hehe. http://www.signal15.com/articles/2005/12/06/h . . . el-bandwidth <- nice story. and you can find Dagmar d'Surreal in the comments ;) |
[14:59:00] | marc_gerges: | guess the error will only show depending where you start updating databaseschemas |
[15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | Where did you pull the actual query from ? |
[15:01:00] | Kelerion: | svn is back up |
[15:02:00] | marc_gerges: | GreyFoxx, from mythtv-setup's output |
[15:02:00] | Kelerion: | bloody hell.. they went to down on protocol versions.. lol.. : "Incompatible protocol version (mythweb=15, backend=22)" |
[15:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, more likely you either haven't updated mythweb or mythweb hasn't been updated to the new protocol verison |
[15:04:00] | Kelerion: | just installed svn.. have been on release version for a couple of months |
[15:04:00] | _nero_: | Kelerion, did you manually install mythweb? |
[15:04:00] | Kelerion: | just updating mythweb now |
[15:05:00] | _nero_: | make install doesnt do it for you.. you have to copy it over. |
[15:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
[15:05:00] | Kelerion: | it's ok.. I know what to do.. just saying about the protocol versions :) |
[15:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | the versioin went up, not down :) |
[15:05:00] | Kelerion: | typo. should have been "went to town".. lol |
[15:05:00] | _nero_: | yah.. mythweb stayed at 15, while the backend went up to 22.. ;) |
[15:06:00] | _nero_: | ahhhhh.. ok |
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[15:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh heh |
[15:06:00] | juski: | laga: that's the funniest thing I've read today (tm) |
[15:06:00] | _nero_: | anyone here good at dynamic finite element analysis?? ugh.. |
[15:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | changeset #8071 is where that timstamp change came in |
[15:09:00] | laga: | juski: hehe. yep, it's pretty funny |
[15:10:00] | juski: | there's always someone er.. daft enough to get pwn3d like that... (gazes upwards & rolls eyes, acting all innocent) |
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[15:12:00] | laga: | hehe |
[15:12:00] | ** juski being the pwn3d, not the pwn3r, in 'leet-speek' ** | |
[15:12:00] | laga: | we had a lot of fun with the windows message service on our lan parties, too |
[15:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Looks like a bunch of mysql 4.1 specific stuff crept in when bjm updated the databse init last week |
[15:13:00] | laga: | juski: thanks, i'm quite fluent in l33t-sp34k ;) |
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[15:14:00] | juski: | finally! got this damn board flashed |
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[15:15:00] | juski: | mate of mine had to make a ping of death utility.. his lecturer didn't realise the relevance of the fake ip he'd used... 133.7.0.0 |
[15:16:00] | laga: | hehe |
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[15:20:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. mythweb is officially harder to install than ever.. but at least it's doable and done.. lol |
[15:21:00] | juski: | I thought it was quite easy in 0.18.. until Gentoo revised Apache & I got badly stuck without enough entropy |
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[15:36:00] | juski: | lol. nearly 48% of people looking at my theme webshite are using Windows XP |
[15:38:00] | laga: | there's a nice patch for apache. it rejects the internet explorer on fridays. hey, even web servers have to relax ;) |
[15:38:00] | juski: | rofl! |
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[15:39:00] | juski: | maybe if I ran my own server (fat chance with a thin pipe) I'd just get it to always reject IE |
[15:40:00] | Krazylegz: | Get it to reject anything that isn't your favorite browser. That will teach your <fill in the blank> loving friends! |
[15:40:00] | laga: | all of my friends use firefox. (they wouldn't be my friends otherwise) |
[15:41:00] | laga: | because friends don't let friends use IE |
[15:41:00] | Krazylegz: | I switch people on to Opera. |
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[15:50:00] | ** Kelerion watches mythplugins compile.. *knowing* it's gonna break somewhere ** | |
[15:50:00] | Kelerion: | okies.. now I'm impressed.. it all compiled first time! |
[15:51:00] | ** _nero_ should sit down tonight and finish up mythgallery.. ** | |
[15:53:00] | Kelerion: | yanno.. thats one plugin I've never used |
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[15:54:00] | _nero_: | hehe.. We use it all the time.. |
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[15:54:00] | _nero_: | cant wait for the ability to do mythmusic and mythgallery at the same time.. we entertain a lot, and love to put up a slideshow of pics.. |
[15:54:00] | laga: | that would rocj |
[15:54:00] | laga: | rock* |
[15:55:00] | _nero_: | (find pics of all the people who are coming over, from previous events, parties, etc.. and cycle them through.. people get a kick out of it) |
[15:55:00] | Kelerion: | but saying that.. my wife mentioned wanting something like that last week.. and I told her myth could already do it.. so now she wants me to get out my photo's and put them all on there.. lol |
[15:55:00] | Kelerion: | thousands of damn photo's to sort out.. not looking forward to that.. lol |
[15:56:00] | _nero_: | music + ken burns effect works real nice on iPhoto.. I'll supply the ken burns effect hopefully by the end of the week.. |
[15:56:00] | Kelerion: | and yeah.. having it play music at the same time would be cool.. I remember something being talking about months ago that would allow that.. so don't know if it's on the todo list |
[15:56:00] | _nero_: | but I know nothing of integrating mythmusic, so I'll have to leave that one for the pros.. |
[15:56:00] | _nero_: | yeah.. it is.. mtd or something like that. (a dameon that will run and allow concurrent myth plugins) |
[15:58:00] | Kelerion: | ahh that sounds familiar |
[15:59:00] | jams: | mfd |
[15:59:00] | jams: | mtd is the transcoding daemon |
[15:59:00] | juski: | mtd= myth transcode daemon iirc |
[16:00:00] | Beirdo: | mfd still means something else to me |
[16:00:00] | _nero_: | mfd.. doh.. |
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[16:01:00] | Beirdo: | speaking of MFD's, haven't seen Eszenia for a while |
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[16:04:00] | ** Kelerion looks lost ** | |
[16:04:00] | Kelerion: | why is mythplugins keep installing to /share ?? I set the prefix! |
[16:05:00] | _nero_: | did you do a qmake mythplugins.pro ? |
[16:05:00] | _nero_: | (Or does that not need to be done any more?) |
[16:05:00] | Kelerion: | nope.. didn't.. forgot it.. lol |
[16:06:00] | Kelerion: | but.. there is one there already.. so I suspect you don't need that step any more |
[16:06:00] | Kelerion: | gonna checkout and do it again |
[16:07:00] | _nero_: | well.. off to the office, where I will hopefuly find out that the guy who is running simulations I have to match, ran them wrong.. grrrrr.. |
[16:08:00] | Kelerion: | good luck :) |
[16:08:00] | Kelerion: | have fun.. lol |
[16:11:00] | juski: | hmm mythplugins.. someone remind me to log that error I was getting during mythmusic compiling, next week please ;) |
[16:11:00] | ** Kelerion reminds juski to log the error about mythmusic compiling ** | |
[16:12:00] | Kelerion: | oh.. next week |
[16:12:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
[16:12:00] | Kelerion: | like my memory is *that* good! |
[16:12:00] | Beirdo: | at monday echo "juski, log that error" |
[16:12:00] | Krazylegz: | Ugh, it's only wednesday. |
[16:13:00] | Beirdo: | shuddup :) |
[16:13:00] | Beirdo: | don't remind me :) |
[16:14:00] | Beirdo: | spamassassin can kiss my ass |
[16:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Remind you? I'm sure I've already had a rougher week than you. PM me if you want to argue that. :-) |
[16:15:00] | Baylink: | Beirdo: you using Linux on the desktop? I forget... |
[16:15:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, on my laptop |
[16:16:00] | Baylink: | Ever use eBay from there? I'm seeing what I think might be PMTUD problems getting to my.ebay.com (but *not* www.ebay.com) from SuSE 9.3; both Firefox and Konq. |
[16:16:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
[16:16:00] | Beirdo: | not usually, haven't been ebaying for a bit |
[16:17:00] | marc_gerges: | GreyFoxx, others: the mysql query database we spoke about earlier |
[16:18:00] | marc_gerges: | mythtv-setup's output is at http://pastebin.ca/32808 |
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[16:27:00] | Kelerion: | ok.. am presuming I'm missing something new.. just upgraded to svn.. now when I set something to record.. it doesn't.. the items are in "watch recordings" but all I get is "the file for this recording can not be found".. any ideas? |
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[16:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | marc_gerges: There are a couple that need to be changed |
[16:32:00] | marc_gerges: | GreyFoxx, in terms of queries within mythtv-setup or in terms of me reporting things? |
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[16:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | queries in dbcheck in libmythtv |
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[16:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | some 4.1 specific stuff crept in during a update to it last weke |
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[16:43:00] | marc_gerges: | aha |
[16:43:00] | marc_gerges: | anything I can do to test? |
[16:44:00] | Kelerion: | anyone know if Neil Bird pops in here? |
[16:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | marc_gerges: Got really, just minor code changes for the most part |
[16:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | err Not Really |
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[16:47:00] | juski: | grrr.. why do I have to mod this metalwork to make a dvd-rom drive fit? haven't product marketing heard of Photoshop? |
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[16:51:00] | lindworm: | Hi |
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[16:52:00] | lindworm: | I am having an error compiling mythtv on suse OSS10 |
[16:52:00] | lindworm: | common.h:61: error: array type has incomplete element type |
[16:52:00] | lindworm: | common.h:65: error: array type has incomplete element type |
[16:52:00] | lindworm: | make[2]: *** [utils.o] Error 1 |
[16:52:00] | lindworm: | make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mythtv-0.18.1/libs/libavcodec' |
[16:52:00] | lindworm: | make[1]: *** [sub-libavcodec] Error 2 |
[16:52:00] | lindworm: | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mythtv-0.18.1/libs' |
[16:52:00] | lindworm: | make: *** [sub-libs] Error 2 |
[16:52:00] | lindworm: | didn't find any solution in mailing list |
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[17:03:00] | ** Beirdo quotes the topic ** | |
[17:03:00] | Beirdo: | :. Use http://pastebin.ca/ .:. |
[17:05:00] | Beirdo: | other than that... |
[17:06:00] | Beirdo: | no idea what your issue may be |
[17:06:00] | lindworm: | i found out that gcc 4 is my prob. but i can't downgrade |
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[17:06:00] | poop: | You can install other gcc versions simultaneously. |
[17:07:00] | lindworm: | i dont know how to |
[17:07:00] | lindworm: | i do nit find rpms for my suse |
[17:07:00] | poop: | lindworm: #suse might be able to help |
[17:08:00] | nuonguy: | you can't get gcc-compat-32 for suse? |
[17:08:00] | laga: | you could also try SVN |
[17:09:00] | poop: | release-0-18-fixes has gcc4 compatibility |
[17:09:00] | lindworm: | oh where do i get that ? |
[17:09:00] | poop: | lindworm: svn.mythtv.org |
[17:10:00] | poop: | http://svn.mythtv.org |
[17:10:00] | lindworm: | ahh thats the ominous svn :-) |
[17:10:00] | laga: | yeah, get the fixes branch |
[17:11:00] | poop: | lindworm: No suse packages, eh? |
[17:12:00] | lindworm: | still learning linux :-) everyday some new stuff. thanks a lot. hope that helps |
[17:12:00] | lindworm: | nope |
[17:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Whoa, MythTV is one heck of a trial by fire way to learn Linux. |
[17:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Heck, I remember when I first used Linux. I punching things.....because I had not yet realized that things were case-sensitive. |
[17:13:00] | juski: | Krazylegz: tell me about it |
[17:13:00] | KillerBunny: | Isnt suse a bad place to start if you want to learn linux? |
[17:14:00] | Krazylegz: | I don't think it matters. You learn what you want to learn, one way or another. |
[17:14:00] | poop: | Krazylegz is an old VMS user. |
[17:14:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh, I used it in college, but I'm only 24. I'm not THAT old. :-) |
[17:14:00] | poop: | He still puts ; at the end of filenames |
[17:14:00] | Krazylegz: | I had come from DOS/Windows. |
[17:15:00] | poop: | I used started using linux before windos mattered very much. |
[17:15:00] | poop: | I don't have any of that baggage :) |
[17:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Must be nice! |
[17:15:00] | juski: | I used to fix fault-tolerant 68k systems for a living – they used PSOS & unix.. one OS per CPU in the same box |
[17:15:00] | Krazylegz: | We all have to start somewhere. |
[17:16:00] | poop: | I did try OS/2 in '94 |
[17:16:00] | rjune: | heh, os/2 was cool |
[17:16:00] | poop: | The video drivers for my S3 card were pretty flaky though |
[17:16:00] | rjune: | Trio 64+? |
[17:17:00] | poop: | older :) |
[17:17:00] | rjune: | S3 drivers for OS/2 were pretty flakey |
[17:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | OS/2 was nice, and much better at multitasking than windows |
[17:18:00] | rjune: | yup |
[17:18:00] | poop: | It protected you from 16-bit windos apps. |
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[17:33:00] | juski: | riiight.. time to go homeski |
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[17:41:00] | lindworm: | thganks @ all myth is compiling |
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[17:42:00] | poop: | You think that's the hard part? :) |
[17:42:00] | lindworm: | the other things are not my prob :-) |
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[18:09:00] | Bonkers: | so common problem "QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded", mysql support definitely installed, /usr/qt/3/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlmysql.so exists |
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[18:10:00] | poop: | You could strace to see what it's actually trying to load. |
[18:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Bonkers Check to see if libmysqlclient is in your ldpath |
[18:12:00] | Bonkers: | yep, that was the missing one |
[18:12:00] | Bonkers: | qt was compiled againt libmysqlclient.so.14, but libmysqlclient.so.15 is the one installed now |
[18:12:00] | ** Beirdo goes bonkers ** | |
[18:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Can someone say a URL ionto the channel? I wanna test something |
[18:13:00] | Krazylegz: | http://rit.ed |
[18:13:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.whatamidoingwithmylife.com |
[18:13:00] | poop: | http://localhost |
[18:13:00] | Beirdo: | http://www.perlsucks.com |
[18:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Doh, forgot to set a variable first, brb |
[18:13:00] | laga: | http://www.mythwiki.de |
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[18:14:00] | laga: | (have to get the pagerank up) |
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[18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | 1 More please ?:) |
[18:15:00] | Kelerion: | http://www.whatamidoingwithmylife.com |
[18:15:00] | Beirdo: | http://www.perlsucks.com |
[18:15:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[18:15:00] | laga: | http://www.mythwiki.de |
[18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sweeet |
[18:15:00] | Beirdo: | I'm having an anti-perl day |
[18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | greg@out:~/.BitchX$ cat urls |
[18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | 2005-12–07 14:15 | #mythtv-users:Kelerion | http://www.whatamidoingwithmylife.com |
[18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | 2005-12–07 14:15 | #mythtv-users:Beirdo | http://www.perlsucks.com |
[18:15:00] | laga: | (pagerank++) |
[18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | auto ftp/http/https url logging |
[18:15:00] | Kelerion: | http://localhost:8080 |
[18:15:00] | Kelerion: | that work? |
[18:15:00] | laga: | nice GreyFoxx |
[18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | 2005-12–07 14:15 | #mythtv-users:Kelerion | http://localhost:8080 |
[18:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
[18:16:00] | Kelerion: | nice |
[18:16:00] | Kelerion: | mythtv:81 |
[18:16:00] | Kelerion: | bet that one doesn't |
[18:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
[18:16:00] | ** Kelerion chuckles ** | |
[18:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | either start with www. ftp. or ftp:/ http:/ https:/ |
[18:17:00] | Kelerion: | froogle.google.com ? |
[18:17:00] | Kelerion: | ahh okies |
[18:17:00] | Bonkers: | http://"'echo blah >> ~/hi_there'"/ |
[18:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | 2005-12–07 14:17 | #mythtv-users:Bonkers | http://"'echo blah >> ~/hi_there'"/ |
[18:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | No execution ;) |
[18:18:00] | Bonkers: | heh |
[18:18:00] | Bonkers: | I forgot to stick some `` in there too |
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[18:20:00] | Kelerion: | oh excellent.. finally figured a way around a 6 month old program.. lol |
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[18:38:00] | _willcooke_: | Hello all. You see the plugins, are they front end plugins, or backend plug ins? |
[18:39:00] | poop: | Mostly front-end |
[18:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Blah, didn't realize that identd on this new install was defaulting to sending uid's only and not usernames |
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[18:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | better |
[18:40:00] | poop: | Is your IRC experience richer now? |
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[18:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | of course it is |
[18:43:00] | Kelerion: | ok.. so in svn is it normal for files not to be deleted when exiting livetv? |
[18:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yes |
[18:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | They get auto expired |
[18:44:00] | Kelerion: | ahh good.. thanks |
[18:45:00] | Kelerion: | so they do.. after a minute or so |
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[19:28:00] | Goshen: | The PVR 500 is sweet! :) |
[19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | My god I love my cable modem |
[19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | ETA: 1:14 95.70/170.84 MB 1.01 MB/s |
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[19:49:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | GreyFoxx: I think we were trying to maintain 3.23.x compatibility. I'm replying to that email on the list and hope Isaac or Bruce speaks up. |
[19:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I thought so too but wanted to be sure |
[19:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | the changes came in Bruces update last week so I figured I better ask |
[19:52:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, I didn't notice that until now. I don't have any 4.x machines, all 3.23.x |
[19:53:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I think Isaac has mentinoed keeping 3.23.x compatiblity in the recent past |
[19:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | All of my machines are 4.0.x, but that's mostly because they get a ton of selects and the caching is handy |
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[19:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Captain_Murdoch: Why is it that everytime you change volume during playback it clears the settings cache ? |
[20:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | The first time to get a message about the specific value being cleared and from then on all volume changes report the generic clearing message: http://pastebin.ca/32831 |
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[20:53:00] | Chutt: | greyfoxx, yes, wanting to keep compatability with older mysql versions |
[20:54:00] | Chutt: | and i just fixed that clearsettingscache issue |
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[21:08:00] | braniff: | are any debian myth packages available ? |
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[21:22:00] | ginvent: | I need a bit of help with mythweb. I can access it on locally connected machine, but on a remote over the internet machine, it tries to download the program_listing.php instead of run it. |
[21:22:00] | xris: | that's messed up |
[21:22:00] | ginvent: | Its a handler problem, but I don't know where |
[21:22:00] | xris: | do you have a proxy? |
[21:23:00] | ginvent: | no |
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[21:24:00] | xris: | I've never really seen apache do something that drastic just depending on which hostname it was accessed with. |
[21:25:00] | Krazylegz: | Virtual Server with different handlers? |
[21:25:00] | ginvent: | No, I don't have any virtual servers. |
[21:25:00] | ginvent: | I just used the standard knoppmyth install.. |
[21:25:00] | Krazylegz: | If you get the download, is it HTML, or PHP source? |
[21:25:00] | ginvent: | .php source... |
[21:25:00] | Krazylegz: | Weird. |
[21:27:00] | Xenna2: | must be something with virtual servers IMHO |
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[21:28:00] | Krazylegz: | ginvent: Put your httpd.conf/apache.conf/apache2.conf into Pastebin. |
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[21:31:00] | kormoc: | Xenna2, so if you go to localhost it works, but external world ip address it doesn't? |
[21:31:00] | ginvent: | http://pastebin.ca/32842 |
[21:31:00] | Xenna2: | could be done if you wanted it to work that way |
[21:32:00] | kormoc: | erm |
[21:32:00] | Xenna2: | but it's weird to have that without intention |
[21:32:00] | kormoc: | that was to the guy with the issues |
[21:32:00] | ginvent: | Yeah, if I go to it internal, no prob... external... it tries to download the .php instead of run it. |
[21:33:00] | kormoc: | ginvent, your server name is set to localhost... it should likely be set to your external ip |
[21:34:00] | ginvent: | Holy crapola... lol |
[21:35:00] | ginvent: | hmm... nope. |
[21:36:00] | Krazylegz: | That really only matters for redirects, I think. |
[21:37:00] | ginvent: | I can access the first page, but when I click on mythweb... it asks to download the .php instead of just running it. |
[21:37:00] | Krazylegz: | Like if you did http://my.domain.com/mydir/ . |
[21:37:00] | Xenna2: | Maybe it's something to do with AllowOverride |
[21:38:00] | Xenna2: | The .php association is set in the .htaccess file |
[21:38:00] | Krazylegz: | Could be something in a .htaccess in the MythWeb directory. You can use RemoveHandler to remove the PHP handler. |
[21:38:00] | kormoc: | ginvent, but php works internally? |
[21:38:00] | Krazylegz: | Which would result in what you're experiencing. |
[21:38:00] | ginvent: | Yup... it works internally on all machines. |
[21:38:00] | Krazylegz: | Still, shouldn't do it for only external access. |
[21:39:00] | Xenna2: | You have to AllowOverride All for the mythweb directory to get mythweb to work |
[21:39:00] | kormoc: | odd... |
[21:40:00] | Xenna2: | If you don't have that and your host is not setup to handle .php pages you could see this |
[21:40:00] | Xenna2: | but it's still strange that you don't always see this |
[21:40:00] | ginvent: | I know. |
[21:40:00] | Krazylegz: | #AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
[21:40:00] | Krazylegz: | Why is that commented out? |
[21:40:00] | ginvent: | it is in a different place... |
[21:40:00] | Krazylegz: | I don't see it. |
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[21:41:00] | Krazylegz: | Did you not paste the whole file? |
[21:41:00] | Xenna2: | Why don't you try to change line 294 from None to All and restart |
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[21:41:00] | Xenna2: | See if that fixes it |
[21:42:00] | ginvent: | Krazy line 793 |
[21:42:00] | ginvent: | Xenna, tried it... nothing. |
[21:42:00] | Xenna2: | mmmm.... |
[21:42:00] | Krazylegz: | Like 793 is blank? |
[21:42:00] | Krazylegz: | *Line |
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[21:43:00] | ginvent: | ? |
[21:43:00] | Krazylegz: | I am looking at your pastebin. |
[21:44:00] | ginvent: | hmmm |
[21:44:00] | Krazylegz: | Yep. Blank. |
[21:44:00] | ginvent: | hang on. |
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[21:49:00] | ginvent: | try http://pastebin.ca/32844 |
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[21:49:00] | braniff: | how do i install mythtv on ubuntu ?? |
[21:49:00] | braniff: | that is, where can i get some packages ? |
[21:49:00] | Chutt: | uh, apt-get install mythtv? |
[21:50:00] | Chutt: | it's in multiverse |
[21:50:00] | dennis_p: | you can unlock the multiverse in adept or that other package manager |
[21:51:00] | KillerBunny: | Sweet... which version is in there? |
[21:51:00] | Krazylegz: | ginvent: I still don't see where you have the AddModule for PHP. |
[21:51:00] | braniff: | is multiverse a free repo ?? |
[21:51:00] | Chutt: | err, no. |
[21:52:00] | Chutt: | that would be 'main'. |
[21:52:00] | braniff: | i have it 'checked' (enabled) in synaptic, but i don't see mythtv |
[21:52:00] | dennis_p: | press update first |
[21:53:00] | dennis_p: | that will get listing from ubuntu multiverse too |
[21:53:00] | KillerBunny: | dennis_p, which version is in multiverse right now ? |
[21:54:00] | dennis_p: | follow the http://www.abarbaccia.com/ ubuntu guide it's a lot of time but easy for a newbie like me |
[21:55:00] | poop: | Why does that url make me hungry? |
[21:56:00] | dennis_p: | It get's a bit less step by step later on but apply the same logic and you'll get it to work |
[21:56:00] | braniff: | thanks...yeah i mainly need the repo list off that site |
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[22:01:00] | braniff: | ok, now i'm downloading mythtv with apt.... |
[22:01:00] | KillerBunny: | braniff, which version of mythtv is that? |
[22:01:00] | braniff: | 0.18.1–5 |
[22:01:00] | KillerBunny: | Nice. |
[22:01:00] | beavis: | Chutt: I just talked to Christian Marillat (the one hosting the inofficial lame/dvd/... repository on debian). He told me he can host mythtv too if you are ok with it. |
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[22:02:00] | KillerBunny: | Guess its the last time im installing debian on my mythbox. |
[22:02:00] | braniff: | KillerBunny, yeah it's so i can make a wireless frontend out of my laptop |
[22:02:00] | Chutt: | why would i care? |
[22:02:00] | KillerBunny: | kater |
[22:02:00] | KillerBunny: | later |
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[22:03:00] | beavis: | Chutt: just because it's the location where all the inofficial ("illegal") stuff is hosted |
[22:03:00] | beavis: | heh |
[22:03:00] | ginvent: | What is the command to printout a file to the screen in linux. |
[22:03:00] | braniff: | cat |
[22:03:00] | laga: | less, more |
[22:03:00] | ginvent: | Thanks... brain blowing up. |
[22:04:00] | poop: | Way to not include a keyboard driver, systemrescuecd |
[22:04:00] | beavis: | Chutt: ok, so I'll send him the diff files for debian. I'll talk to rkugalow when Christian's finished |
[22:05:00] | ** kormoc raises an eyebrow at poop's keyboard issue. ** | |
[22:05:00] | dennis_p: | I have mythtv and remote working in on Kubuntu with KDE 3.5 all in Dutch, ubuntu mythtv is easy. (I could not get mythknoppix to work) |
[22:05:00] | poop: | kormoc: Are you associated with systemrescuecd? :) |
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[22:06:00] | kormoc: | no, more courious as to how they would remove the driver. |
[22:06:00] | poop: | linux is modular these days |
[22:06:00] | ginvent: | jeez, how do I copy a file to paste into pastebin from a ssh terminal? |
[22:06:00] | ginvent: | If I cat, my terminal doesn't store enough. |
[22:07:00] | kormoc: | poop, ahh, but which keyboard driver don't they have? |
[22:07:00] | ** braniff has been using Ubuntu for 2 days and really likes it ** | |
[22:07:00] | poop: | kormoc: usb |
[22:07:00] | kormoc: | poop, cause I beleive that the basic one is built in and you can't just set it to not build or module. |
[22:07:00] | kormoc: | ahh. |
[22:08:00] | kormoc: | so it's more usb human interface drivers are not there rather then the keyboard driver isn't |
[22:08:00] | poop: | The driver that handles my keyboard isn't there. |
[22:09:00] | braniff: | ginvent, you might want to use ftp |
[22:10:00] | kormoc: | actually no it's still there. the USB HID devices use the standard keyboard driver, the driver that's missing is the peice that goes between the two. |
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[22:10:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
[22:10:00] | poop: | potato/ potato |
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[22:12:00] | braniff: | the ubuntu package is nice. it even improves on mythtvsetup |
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[22:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | how so ? |
[22:14:00] | braniff: | it has a little GUI program to help you configure mysql |
[22:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | ok, I thought you meant "mythtv-setup" the program, not "mythtv setup" the actions |
[22:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
[22:15:00] | ginvent: | OK, I got a good pastbin http://pastebin.ca/32853 is my httpd.conf file that doesn't allow .php to run on external machines... only locally connected ones. |
[22:16:00] | Krazylegz: | Is that servername okay? |
[22:16:00] | ginvent: | It's not my real servername. :D |
[22:16:00] | Krazylegz: | Change 298 from None to All. |
[22:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just using allow lines ? |
[22:16:00] | ginvent: | Not exactly wanting to hand out my ip to all you hackers... ;) |
[22:17:00] | ginvent: | The initial page loads up fine... then I click on mythweb... on local machines it runs... over the internet, it tries to download it. |
[22:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | Why bother? |
[22:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | sorry if I missed the start of the conversation :) |
[22:18:00] | ginvent: | I want to be able to change shows and stuff remotely. |
[22:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | I understand, but why change who can execute php |
[22:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Why not just an htaccess file with username/password + IP restrictions |
[22:19:00] | dennis_p: | I don't know how to use TV out on my hauppauge 350 in ubuntu, I think I'll use nivdia twinview on fx5200 and later maybe use a direct RGB scart with potential tv blow up :-) |
[22:20:00] | ginvent: | I am not that good of a apache pilot yet. |
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[22:20:00] | ginvent: | lol |
[22:20:00] | ginvent: | I think it has an .htaccess file. |
[22:21:00] | ginvent: | on the mythweb dir |
[22:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | it does |
[22:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | you just need to uncomment the Auth lines (in the SVN version) or add a couple auth lines in the 0.18 vcersion |
[22:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | that gets the user/password. If you want IP restrictions then you need allow lines |
[22:23:00] | ginvent: | I did that... but still no load. |
[22:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe your apache is configured to not check for .htaccess files. Iv'e run accross that a couple times, but I don't remember just what I did to fix it |
[22:26:00] | poop: | My cd-rws sure get scratched up |
[22:27:00] | ** poop discards ** | |
[22:29:00] | ginvent: | ok, now I can access .htaccess, but now I get a server error... sheesh |
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[22:46:00] | _willcooke_: | dennis_p, I remeber seeing in the settings somewhere (probably the card settings) an option for "Use Hardware MPEG decoder", or something like that, I think you need to check that box |
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[22:46:00] | _willcooke_: | dennis_p, and if you get that RGB -> SCART working, let me know!! |
[22:46:00] | mars_: | i all |
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[22:58:00] | Servo888: | http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32319 | anybody know how they got the icons at the top to pop out like that |
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