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[00:37:00] phoner: a while back there was some crazy setting on fedora to get mythweb to work
[00:38:00] phoner: can't remember what it was now
[00:38:00] phoner: disabling some security feature
[00:38:00] kormoc: selinux?
[00:39:00] phoner: maybe
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[00:42:00] phoner: darn, I have it disabled, still not working
[00:48:00] phoner: hehe, got it
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[00:48:00] abarbaccia: hello all, anybody have any info on controlling a cable box via serial cable?
[00:49:00] abarbaccia: i have lirc configured to use the irblaster right now, essentially can i just plug a serial cable in and change the config file?
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[01:14:00] abarbaccia: nm, i found some info in the contrib directory of the mythtv tarball
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[01:20:00] Juski: that's the program guide & recording priority screens set to <<wide>> now
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[01:24:00] jd86: I have mythweb, and mythfrontend shows the right time in the guide, but mythweb shows time an hour off..
[01:24:00] jd86: any reason why?
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[01:27:00] Brixius: how can I test to see if lirc is getting anything from my remote? I thought there was a program to display what it's receiving, but can't seem to find it again.
[01:29:00] Krazylegz: irircat?
[01:29:00] Krazylegz: *ircat ?
[01:30:00] Brixius: thanks
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[01:32:00] Brixius: found it from your hint, irw
[01:32:00] Brixius: :)
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[01:33:00] GenB: Anyone able to help with setting up MythTv on xbox??
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[01:42:00] Servo888: How do you setup mythtv weather? I hit the 'weather settings' and nothing happens
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[01:46:00] phoner: there was someone here posted a nice myththeme
[01:46:00] phoner: can't find it now
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[01:46:00] Juski: was it mine? www.juski.co.uk
[01:47:00] phoner: hehe, yea
[01:47:00] phoner: thanks
[01:47:00] Juski: there's only been two put out recently
[01:47:00] Juski: phoner: now version 1.6
[01:47:00] Juski: there's another new one called Retro
[01:47:00] Juski: http://www.aldorf.no/mythtv/
[01:48:00] Juski: decided it's time to do up my site
[01:48:00] phoner: cool
[01:50:00] phoner: took me all day, got myth setup on an epia sp
[01:50:00] phoner: (only cause I'm lame)
[01:51:00] GenB: I can't figure out how to set up my xbox MythTV – settings
[01:51:00] phoner: can you duel boot then with an xbox?
[01:51:00] GenB: do I NEED to run another computer for the 'back-end' ??? All I need right now is the TV Guide
[01:52:00] Juski: phoner: how don't wanna know how long it took me to install ubuntu & mythtv from scratch last night
[01:52:00] Juski: *you not 'how' lol
[01:52:00] phoner: no, I run both back/front on the epia, works fine
[01:52:00] GenB: so, what do I use for the IP in steeings??
[01:52:00] GenB: settings
[01:52:00] Juski: 127.0.0.1
[01:54:00] GenB: Do I need a user /pass in there??
[01:54:00] Juski: course you do
[01:54:00] GenB: sorry, my wife is watching some dumb-ass movie on lifetime, and I need to wait for a commercial
[01:55:00] GenB: Is the name/pass associated with MythTV on the WEB, or my network
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[01:58:00] Juski: ?
[01:58:00] Juski: the username & password are just the mysql username & password you use for the mythconverg database
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[02:03:00] jd86: Could not find theme: G.A.N.T.
[02:03:00] jd86: cant find blue either... whats up with this
[02:08:00] Juski: jd86: if they were there before I'd say your filesystem needs some attention
[02:11:00] jd86: oh no, i tried to add another computer with a leet haxor frontend
[02:11:00] jd86: but
[02:11:00] jd86: so i tarred up the sources from the server (svn... figured it worked there it will work here) and copied it here and compiled and installed
[02:11:00] jd86: but that don't work
[02:13:00] Juski: all the versions you use as part of the same system have to be the same
[02:13:00] jd86: yea
[02:14:00] jd86: so thats why i used that same subversion version i grabbed
[02:14:00] Juski: and GANT & Blue are maybe in /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes not /usr/share/mythtv/themes
[02:14:00] jd86: so tahts where they should be?
[02:14:00] jd86: is there a way of switching the default?
[02:14:00] Juski: there is, and I think it's a compile time option.. or at least done when you run ./configure
[02:15:00] jd86: oh yuckie... anyway
[02:15:00] jd86: GANT and blue are in there
[02:16:00] jd86: why wouldn't it find it
[02:17:00] Juski: jd86: user permissions?
[02:18:00] jd86: i tried mythfrontend as root
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[02:18:00] jd86: hmm
[02:18:00] jd86: odd
[02:18:00] t00m: Juski: the media library is still not very readable
[02:19:00] jd86: i had prefix set to /usr/local but it installed stuff right to /
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[02:19:00] Juski: t00m: which part of mythvideo are you talking about?
[02:19:00] t00m: the one that lists all your videos
[02:19:00] Juski: so it's 'list'
[02:19:00] t00m: to browse
[02:19:00] Juski: what's up with it?
[02:20:00] t00m: it's yellow whith white
[02:20:00] t00m: doesn't view very well on a tv
[02:20:00] Juski: hang on.. let's get this straight.. we talking about 'list' mode or 'browse' mode?
[02:20:00] Juski: browse mode is the one with one video per page
[02:20:00] t00m: it's like 16 videos per page
[02:21:00] t00m: where you get to, if you select 'watch videos'
[02:21:00] Juski: t00m: can you put a screenshot up so I know exactly what you're talking about?
[02:21:00] jd86: more errors :(
[02:21:00] t00m: i'll try
[02:21:00] Juski: t00m: you can select a different default view for that
[02:22:00] t00m: how
[02:22:00] t00m: where
[02:22:00] Juski: so mine might be a different page
[02:22:00] Juski: ermm... utils/settings > settings > media settings > video settings
[02:22:00] t00m: aha
[02:22:00] Juski: then it's under general
[02:22:00] t00m: i'll have alook
[02:23:00] t00m: brb
[02:23:00] Juski: a screenshot will help me nail it though
[02:30:00] Juski: t00m: I've just checked again here.. I've not got any yellow text in the mythvideo pages as far as i can tell
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[02:38:00] t00m: Juski: it's called galeery
[02:38:00] t00m: galery
[02:38:00] t00m: but i like listing better
[02:38:00] t00m: cause it shows directories rather than just putting everything in one view
[02:38:00] Juski: right
[02:39:00] Juski: ahhh
[02:39:00] Juski: you still shouldn't have any yellow text
[02:39:00] t00m: but it appears to be the default setting
[02:39:00] Juski: but the boxes are a yellowish colour
[02:39:00] t00m: i guess it's white text and yellow highliteboxes
[02:39:00] Juski: right... have you seen the screenshot where the boxes are red?
[02:40:00] t00m: nope
[02:40:00] Juski: hang on
[02:40:00] t00m: it's fine
[02:40:00] t00m: i'm listing now anyway
[02:41:00] Juski: in the 'shared' directory within ProjectGrayhem there are four files
[02:42:00] cosmo_: it took me 10 minutes to transfer a 1.5gb file over a 100mb/s switch, is it just me or is that slow!
[02:42:00] Juski: they start mv_gallery_back
[02:42:00] Juski: and mv_gallery_sel
[02:43:00] Juski: if you back up the original files in the mythtv/themes/default directory you can copy the ones over from my shared folder within the theme
[02:43:00] jd86: QFile::open: No file name specified
[02:43:00] jd86: 2005-12–02 21:22:36.456 ThemedMenuPrivate: Couldn't read menu file mainmenu.xml
[02:43:00] jd86: whats this
[02:46:00] Juski: jd86: happens when mythfrontend finds a theme element missing for some reason
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[02:49:00] Juski: right that's my webshite updated a bit
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[02:52:00] Juski: t00m: there's now a preview of the new thing I've been working on tonight ;)
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[02:53:00] poonj: hey guys, anyone here get lirc to work?
[02:53:00] poonj: I'm a bit confused. Do I need to install the lirc modules for the kernel?
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[02:57:00] cosmo_: dang, 22mbits per second on a 100mit dlink. Does dlink suck, or am I missing something here? Perhaps samba protocol has a bandwidth limitation?
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[02:58:00] Juski: cosmo_: there's all kinds of protocol overhead
[02:58:00] Juski: but not so much you'd be down to 22%... then you have to remember 100mbit is only really a theoretical max
[02:59:00] Juski: whoah 3am... I've been up since 5.30am.. bedtime! night all
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[02:59:00] [311]: hey, is there a command to scan for channels? during config, i can't scroll down to the scan for channe;s
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[03:00:00] cosmo_: essentially, im concerned because when I play a file over network in myplayer, its a pain to commercial skip, and im wondering if I will have the same difficulties when I implement myth
[03:01:00] [311]: anyone? this is all i need to do
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[03:09:00] cwsmith: is there a good descent program for windows that plays nuv files like other than winmyth ?
[03:09:00] cwsmith: cause they play like all non interlaced or soemthing
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[03:27:00] Servo888: Where does mythtvfrontend store it's playback configuration?
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[03:39:00] poop: In the database.
[03:42:00] Servo888: poop, which table?
[03:43:00] poop: settings I'd wager
[03:43:00] Servo888: Ok...
[03:43:00] Servo888: Looking through it now
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[03:47:00] Nothingman_: hi, all
[03:47:00] Nothingman_: wondering why I hear sound from the time my myth box starts recording and thereafter
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[03:49:00] poop: Nothingman: Forget to mute something in your mixer?
[03:49:00] Nothingman_: and having trouble connecting to it from another machine with a frontend
[03:49:00] poonj: hey guys
[03:49:00] poonj: anyone here get a usb MCE remote to work with lirc?
[03:52:00] Nothingman_: OK, how do I delete a listing for a program for which I've deleted (manually) the .nuv file and which was recorded before I changed the hostname (which reset all my settings, but Myth still shows the tuner as available but set up as the previous host)
[03:55:00] Nothingman_: right
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[03:59:00] Servo888: I need to set a setting to zero with mysql... Here's my syntax UPDATE settings SET data = 0 WHERE value='UseVXMC'; | but it's not working
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[04:02:00] poop: You sure you want 0?
[04:02:00] Servo888: yes I want to remove it
[04:02:00] poop: try null
[04:02:00] t00m: 0 should be fine
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[04:04:00] Servo888: maybe it's my syntax?
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[04:05:00] t00m: what does it say?
[04:05:00] Servo888: Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec)
[04:06:00] poop: select it
[04:06:00] adoba: can anyone point me in the right direction for this problem 2005-12–02 14:34:21.820 AvFormatDecoder: Video has changed from 0x1 to 480x480.
[04:06:00] adoba: Segmentation fault
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[04:06:00] t00m: select from settings where value='UseVXMC';
[04:06:00] t00m: select *
[04:06:00] Servo888: | UseXVMC | 1 | videobox |
[04:07:00] t00m: weird
[04:07:00] poop: wtf won't this nvidia do dual-head
[04:09:00] poop: data is text
[04:10:00] Servo888: I've already tried "0" and '0'
[04:10:00] Nothingman_: having trouble accessing my mythbox from a frontend on another comp, but I already changed the SQL setting to allow other machines on the network, and I noticed myth-backend has trouble binding the port
[04:11:00] poop: update settings set data='0' where value='UseXVMC';
[04:11:00] Nothingman_: I checked my netstat and here's the line for that port:
[04:11:00] Nothingman_: tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:6543 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
[04:11:00] Nothingman_: so what do I need to do?
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[04:12:00] dvorak: hi all
[04:12:00] Krazylegz: OMG HI 2 John Dvorak!
[04:12:00] poop: Nothing: try lsof
[04:13:00] Servo888: poop, that worked!
[04:13:00] poop: If qwerty shows up all Hell's going break loose
[04:13:00] dvorak: anyone know if the Hauppauge Win TV Go Plus PCI Tv Tuner Card works?
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[04:14:00] Nothingman_: poop: what am I looking for here?
[04:16:00] dvorak: Any luck with Hauppauge WinTV Go Plus?
[04:16:00] dvorak: This seems to be different from Hauppauge Wintv somehow
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[04:16:00] poop: Nothing: Figure out how to show tcp from the manpage
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[04:18:00] Nothingman_: you mean "man tcp"?
[04:18:00] Nothingman_: I promise you're not working with a complete novice here
[04:19:00] Nothingman_: I may be tired, but I know how to use man
[04:19:00] Nothingman_: well, you mean "man lsof"
[04:19:00] Nothingman_: again, tired
[04:19:00] Nothingman_: a little slow
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[04:23:00] Nothingman_: still, what am I looking for?
[04:23:00] Nothingman_: what does netstat not show?
[04:26:00] Nothingman_: so I'm typing "lsof -Ts | less" to try and see socket info
[04:27:00] Nothingman_: doesn't seem to be showing anything TCP-related
[04:27:00] Dagmar: nestat will show you all socket-related info, no worries there
[04:27:00] Nothingman_: Dagmar, poop told me to use lsof for some reason
[04:27:00] Nothingman_: no idea what I'm looking for
[04:27:00] Dagmar: Depends on what you're looking for
[04:28:00] Nothingman_: can't connect to my Myth box from a frontend on another comp though I've changed my database to allow other machines on the network
[04:28:00] Dagmar: I see you say mythbackend is having trouble binding the port
[04:28:00] Dagmar: netstat won't tell you why
[04:28:00] Dagmar: What specifically is it saying when it can't bind it's listen port?
[04:29:00] Dagmar: (netstat will only tell you if it actually bound the port or not, or if something else grabbed it)
[04:30:00] Nothingman_: OK
[04:30:00] Nothingman_: Dagmar: yes
[04:32:00] Nothingman_: QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket
[04:32:00] Nothingman_: Failed to bind port: 6543
[04:32:00] Dagmar: Anything else listening on that port at the moment?
[04:32:00] Dagmar: netstat will be able to tell you that much
[04:32:00] Nothingman_: no idea what would be
[04:32:00] Nothingman_: tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:6543 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
[04:32:00] GreyFoxx: fuser -n tcp 6543
[04:32:00] poop: lsof will tell you what is listening
[04:32:00] Dagmar: netstat -tunap | grep 6543 (crude but effective)
[04:32:00] Nothingman_: that's the line from netstat
[04:32:00] GreyFoxx: lsof | grep TCP | grep 6543
[04:32:00] Nothingman_: poop: how?
[04:32:00] Dagmar: or netstat -t 6543
[04:33:00] GreyFoxx: under unix there are always 10 ways to do everything :)
[04:33:00] Dagmar: Nothingman: Okay, use the invocation I mentioned first... netstat -tunap 6543
[04:33:00] Dagmar: The p will tell you what process has the socket bound
[04:33:00] Nothingman_: Dagmar: gives me the same as above
[04:33:00] Dagmar: GreyFoxx: Yeah, but there's at most only one or two really accurate ways of doing it
[04:33:00] Nothingman_: ohhh...
[04:34:00] Nothingman_: ltsp
[04:34:00] Dagmar: Nothingman: You're telling me that netstat -tunap did *not* show you a column indicating what process owned the port?
[04:34:00] GreyFoxx: Dude, any right answer is an accurate answer regardless of how you get it
[04:34:00] croppa: has anyone had experance with the Fusionhdtv dbv-t plus card with fedora core 4
[04:34:00] poop: $ sudo lsof -i4 | grep myth
[04:34:00] poop: mythbacke 4724 mythtv 10u IPv4 10030 TCP *:6543 (LISTEN)
[04:34:00] Nothingman_: Dagmar: I geuss that's what I'm saying
[04:34:00] Dagmar: GreyFoxx: Some answers are the result of more accurate questions
[04:35:00] GreyFoxx: and fuser -n tcp 6543 is not specific ?
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[04:36:00] Dagmar: one moment. digging something up
[04:36:00] Nothingman_: GreyFoxx: 6543/tcp: 9181
[04:36:00] Nothingman_: ltsp is using that port (presumably along with countless others)
[04:37:00] Dagmar: I was cghecking he man page to be sure there wasn't a shorter way of asking the system that question
[04:37:00] Dagmar: root@mythtv:~# netstat -tunap | grep 6543
[04:37:00] Dagmar: tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:6543 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 7294/mythbackend
[04:38:00] Dagmar: fuser isn't on every system, unfortunately
[04:38:00] Dagmar: netstat has at least been on everything I've ever used
[04:38:00] Dagmar: I used to use fuser because I first found out about it whiel I was adminning some SGI boxes
[04:38:00] GreyFoxx: and unfortunately one should know the variety of ways it works as netstat doesn't support all parameters on all platgforms
[04:39:00] Dagmar: Same goes for fuser, sadly.
[04:39:00] GreyFoxx: the more ways you can get what you want the better off you will be :)
[04:39:00] Dagmar: AYay!
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[04:39:00] Dagmar: GreyFoxx++
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[04:42:00] Dagmar: What really irks me is that I was logged into *something* yesterday that let me specify the port as well with netstat
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[04:42:00] Dagmar: I can't for the life of me remember what
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[04:45:00] blammo: Plz – anyone know why I can't change channels through mythtv, but it works with ivtv-tune? FC4 PVR 350
[04:46:00] blammo: ... the program guide has the channels
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[04:50:00] t00m: hm
[04:50:00] t00m: can't get vlc running
[04:50:00] t00m: i mean, it is running, but the stream seems to be broken
[04:53:00] t00m: [00000255] main packetizer error: cannot create packetizer output
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[05:03:00] poop: Now that I understand it TwinView is pretty handy
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[05:16:00] KaiForce: i tried vlc a while back for mythstream and it acted like it had a mem leak
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[05:19:00] dgilmore: anyone having issues where all recordings are 0 byte files
[05:19:00] Dagmar: Nifty. Myth is on the cover of Linux Journal this month
[05:19:00] dgilmore: once a recording has started the olny way to watch live tv again is restart mythbackend?
[05:19:00] dgilmore: thats a month old now
[05:21:00] Dagmar: I just use a PVR500
[05:22:00] dgilmore: Dagmar: i have a PVR350
[05:29:00] Klatuu: PeeVeeRRRR 500
[05:29:00] t00m: KaiForce: that would be good, cause is better than don't acting at all
[05:30:00] Klatuu: my pvr500 spends more time under my desk than in my entertainment center
[05:30:00] dgilmore: :(
[05:31:00] KaiForce: toom no it blew, took down my backend :)
[05:31:00] t00m: o
[05:31:00] Dagmar: I've still not moved mine out to the dedicated myth box.
[05:32:00] Klatuu: wireless and myth suck
[05:32:00] Dagmar: Well, you basically need 802.11g
[05:33:00] djperegrine: and a 3 foot link :P
[05:33:00] Klatuu: I have that
[05:33:00] Dagmar: a/b just don't really go fast enough
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[05:33:00] Klatuu: a should be fast enough
[05:33:00] Klatuu: same speed as G
[05:34:00] Klatuu: not as much range
[05:34:00] Klatuu: but I don't need it to go too far
[05:35:00] dgilmore: Dagmar: put in a cable
[05:35:00] Klatuu: it's probably my decision to use atheros that is causing my discomfort
[05:38:00] Dagmar: dgilmore: I actually do use 100b-T for everything but myh notebook
[05:38:00] Dagmar: Klatuu: just be glad you aren't trying to use madwifi
[05:38:00] Dagmar: It's worse than the acx drivers by far
[05:38:00] Klatuu: I am trying to use madwifi
[05:38:00] Dagmar: ouch
[05:39:00] Klatuu: I have resorted to the NG drivers
[05:39:00] dgilmore: Dagmar: my bad i didnt read the full chat
[05:39:00] Klatuu: next house I buy will be prewired for cat6
[05:40:00] Dagmar: I made creative use of the central heat & air ducts
[05:40:00] Klatuu: yes
[05:40:00] Klatuu: that would be nice
[05:40:00] Klatuu: but all my rooms utilize forced air heaters
[05:41:00] Klatuu: and unfortunately most of the walls I would want a drop on are exterior walls
[05:42:00] dgilmore: my house is 150 years old ive been running cat 5e through old heating ducts and chimneys
[05:42:00] Klatuu: I have no heating ducts
[05:42:00] ** poop finishes entertainment schematic **
[05:42:00] poop: Let the fun begin!
[05:43:00] Klatuu: hrmm
[05:43:00] Klatuu: schematic
[05:43:00] Klatuu: what a novel idea
[05:43:00] poop: too much for me to remember
[05:43:00] Nothingman_: you were all very helpful with the port diagnosis, and I thank you!
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[05:44:00] Nothingman_: my new problem: when Myth records, the sound plays through my speakers even though the frontend isn't running (nor anything else that would view it) and I hear the sound continue mixed with any recorded show I try to load or LiveTV (meaning I hear it twice) or music
[05:44:00] Klatuu: oh
[05:45:00] KaiForce: you have two instances of the frontend running nothingman
[05:45:00] Klatuu: a new myth installation with mysql 5 is going to be ugly
[05:45:00] Klatuu: just fyi
[05:45:00] KaiForce: possibly
[05:45:00] Klatuu: once mythbackend trys to create the databases...look out
[05:45:00] Nothingman_: playing with my audio mixer app, it seems only shutting down (muting) the main PCM switch kills the sound, hence I need it for anything else with sound
[05:45:00] Nothingman_: Kaiforce: very sure I don't
[05:46:00] Nothingman_: I either use it under my main name, or I login as 'mythtv'
[05:46:00] KaiForce: sorry misread your first problem
[05:46:00] Dagmar: Klatuu: It doesn't work at all with 5 ,afaik
[05:46:00] Klatuu: well
[05:46:00] Nothingman_: KaiForce, no prob; I appreciate the help
[05:47:00] Klatuu: with a little tweaking it does from what I hear
[05:47:00] Klatuu: upgrading the db works
[05:47:00] KaiForce: i've loaded the FE twice by accident and had some bizarre things happen as a result
[05:47:00] Klatuu: installing a new one doesn't
[05:47:00] Klatuu: and there is a patch for datadirect.cpp
[05:48:00] Nothingman_: anyone here know how to limit the number of ltsp terminals I run?
[05:48:00] Klatuu: you also have to fiddle with the permission for the db
[05:49:00] Klatuu: I managed to fo a filldatabase and get mythbackend running with no errors
[05:50:00] Nothingman_: I'm also having trouble with video
[05:50:00] Nothingman_: can't install mplayer for some reason, or vanilla xine
[05:50:00] Nothingman_: running Ubuntu, btw
[05:51:00] t00m: your fault
[05:52:00] t00m: KaiForce: vcodec=DIV3 is that divx3 ?
[05:52:00] t00m: the documentation really sucks for vlc
[05:52:00] t00m: doesn't even have a manpage :/
[05:53:00] KaiForce: toom: not sure but probably
[05:54:00] t00m: i'm just rebuildingn ffmpeg and vlc. see if it changes somethign
[05:55:00] KaiForce: weird, my capture cards just stopped working, warm boot didn't fix, after cold start they are working again... Never seen that before
[05:57:00] poop: Icons and titles in Minimalist-wide disappear as you navigate.
[06:00:00] poop: Mythtv doesn't really lend itself to both HDTV and SDTV
[06:00:00] KaiForce: anyone know why the lirc_i2c module wouldn't load (following Jarod's guide on FC4) but works fine if loaded manually? I see some postings on it but not a good solution
[06:01:00] Klatuu: no SVG graphics?
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[06:01:00] poop: I have to go into setup to toggle AC3 passthrough and deinterlacing.
[06:01:00] Klatuu: time to experiment with the lastest madwifi dump
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[06:38:00] t00m: now it sais: [00000232] vcd access warning: could not open foo.mpeg
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[06:38:00] poonj: hey guys, anyone here have experience with lirc?
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[06:39:00] poonj: when I reboot my computer, the lircd amd lircmc won't start for some reason
[06:39:00] poonj: and when I manually start it, it won't run
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[06:54:00] t00m: wow
[06:54:00] t00m: it's streaming audio
[06:57:00] [Klatuu]: good for you
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[06:58:00] t00m: and video
[06:58:00] t00m: over http
[06:58:00] t00m: to mplayer
[06:58:00] [Klatuu]: oh
[06:58:00] t00m: but it can't do nuppels
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[07:00:00] t00m: well. just with tons of errors
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[07:16:00] pigpen_: anybody know why I can watch tv with correct channel info, but any recorded shows are made from the wrong channel?
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[07:18:00] pigpen_: seems like whatever the last channel i was watching, thats the one that gets recorded
[07:18:00] [Klatuu]: is mythtv changing the channels for the recordings?
[07:18:00] Netslayer: how close are we to a release of 18.2/19 ?
[07:18:00] [Klatuu]: sounds like it isn't automatically changing channels
[07:19:00] Netslayer: i'm going to create a custom ebuild off of svn if it's a month off
[07:19:00] pigpen_: yes
[07:19:00] [Klatuu]: manually changing channels works consistently?
[07:19:00] pigpen_: yup
[07:19:00] pigpen_: perfectly
[07:19:00] [Klatuu]: serial or ir blaster?
[07:20:00] pigpen_: neither
[07:20:00] pigpen_: just kybd
[07:20:00] [Klatuu]: ahh
[07:23:00] Netslayer: can someone tell me that current svn is somewhat stable? ie nothing major is screwed up
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[07:25:00] pigpen_: anyone loving a particular ir receiver?
[07:25:00] pigpen_: cheep/rockin
[07:26:00] [Klatuu]: I kinda like the firefly
[07:26:00] pigpen_: cool, i check it out thx
[07:26:00] Netslayer: ati remote wonder
[07:26:00] [Klatuu]: the firefly is RF though
[07:26:00] Netslayer: i was having constant issues with the build my owns working intermitantly for a 2 years
[07:26:00] Netslayer: ya well it's a solution heh
[07:27:00] Netslayer: (i got real sick of IR)
[07:27:00] pigpen_: hmm good2know
[07:27:00] [Klatuu]: an original MCE remote works well too
[07:27:00] [Klatuu]: Firefox 1.5 is giving me hives
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[07:28:00] pigpen_: does that firefly rf make it into an adjacent room?
[07:28:00] [Klatuu]: I dunno
[07:28:00] [Klatuu]: it should
[07:28:00] pigpen_: cool
[07:29:00] [Klatuu]: I haven't really tried it for distance
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[07:41:00] jonb: hey, all, I had built a Myth box a while ago (with spare hardware), and was pretty impressed. I'm thinking of building a new box just for myth, but just wanted to check in and see what all was new in the Myth world.
[07:41:00] t00m: [00000230] dvb access debug: Opening device /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0
[07:41:00] t00m: [00000230] dvb access error: FrontEndOpen: opening device failed (Device or resource busy)
[07:41:00] t00m: that's what it sais when i try to stream livetv
[07:41:00] t00m: cause the backend is running
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[09:25:00] dagfinnr: hello.
[09:25:00] dagfinnr: I've hvaing some toubles with installing myhttv-suite on fedora with yum
[09:25:00] dagfinnr: The GPG keys listed for the "Fedora Core 4 – i386 – Base" repository are already installed but they are not correct for this package.
[09:25:00] dagfinnr: what is wrong?/how can i fix it?
[09:26:00] dagfinnr: anyone online?
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[09:38:00] poonj: hey guys
[09:38:00] poonj: anyone here using a remote with lirc?
[09:38:00] poonj: I've been able to verify that the remote works, as I can record the buttons and show the output of buttons using irrecord and irw
[09:39:00] poonj: however, I can't get lircmd to work...
[09:39:00] poonj: at the same tmie, I can't get it to use ~./lircrc to open my web browser
[09:39:00] poonj: anyone here have a clue?
[09:42:00] dagfinnr: i dont think there is anyone here poonj :(
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[11:33:00] terpstra: hi!
[11:34:00] terpstra: i wanted to know if it is possible to setup mythtv so that a server runs mysql&nfs, butt not mythbackend.
[11:34:00] terpstra: would another computer be able to watch shows recorded by a remote mythbackend, if the mythbackend is offline?
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[13:02:00] jono: hi all
[13:02:00] jono: where does mythmusic access my music
[13:03:00] CanadaBoy: where it is set to ...
[13:03:00] laga: jono: you need to set the music directory in the settingd
[13:03:00] laga: settings*
[13:03:00] CanadaBoy: check the settings, i don't know the default location
[13:03:00] jono: oh right
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[14:37:00] rjune: jono: usually in /var/lib/mythmusic IIRC
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[14:51:00] rasto: my guide isnt showing correct shows. i have local time and ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern /etc/timezone
[14:51:00] rasto: in mythtv timeoffset is set to auto. i tried None and various -5:00, 5:00 didnt seem to do anything
[14:52:00] poop: One would hope you don't have to mythfilldatabase after such a change
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[15:01:00] poop: As soon as it's safe to make noise I can reinsert my coat hanger into the ceiling and feel around for studs.
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[15:06:00] poop: Anyone doing HDTV and SDTV in mythtv?
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[15:14:00] Xoritor: Error: Some files and or directories in your storage directory are not writeable by the webserver user. Run chown -R webserverUser /var/www/virtuals/gallery/ OR run chmod -R 777 /var/www/virtuals/gallery/.
[15:14:00] Xoritor: so that does not fix it
[15:14:00] Xoritor: :-/
[15:14:00] Xoritor: i was trying to upgrade
[15:14:00] Xoritor: then forgot what dir i was in and did an rm -rf *
[15:14:00] Xoritor: sigh
[15:14:00] poop: !
[15:15:00] poop: $ echo $PS1
[15:15:00] poop: [%n@%m]:%~$
[15:16:00] Xoritor: what dirs should be in the exteral directory where your albums are stored?
[15:16:00] Xoritor: i can hopefully re-create them from my backup
[15:16:00] Xoritor: albums cache locks sessions smarty
[15:16:00] Xoritor: anything else?
[15:16:00] poop: Can't you just reinstall it?
[15:17:00] Xoritor: would that be easier?
[15:17:00] Xoritor: would i then have to re-import all my images?
[15:17:00] Xoritor: what about everything in the db
[15:17:00] Xoritor: ?
[15:18:00] laga: Xoritor: dude, this is #mythtv-users ;)
[15:18:00] poop: Well, you could at least list the contents of the currently installed package to find out what you're missing, but I wouldn't expect it to be harmful.
[15:18:00] Xoritor: gack
[15:18:00] Xoritor: man im a freakin moron
[15:18:00] Xoritor: you see why i screwed up this morning
[15:18:00] Xoritor: hahahahaha
[15:18:00] Xoritor: good thing i didnt update the mythtv
[15:18:00] Xoritor: LOL
[15:19:00] poop: yeah, good thing
[15:19:00] ** Xoritor needs more coffee **
[15:19:00] Xoritor: sorry guys
[15:19:00] Xoritor: and gals
[15:19:00] Xoritor: and dog
[15:19:00] Xoritor: s
[15:19:00] Xoritor: and cats
[15:19:00] Xoritor: and morons like me
[15:19:00] Xoritor: ;-)
[15:19:00] laga: less coffee, i think... ;)
[15:19:00] Xoritor: what an idiot i am
[15:19:00] Xoritor: laga, no... i have not even had 1 full cup yet
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[15:20:00] Xoritor: went to update my drupal site and fubared that one quite nice
[15:20:00] Xoritor: when i went to fix that i screwed up my gallery
[15:20:00] Xoritor: when i went to fix that i whacked the wrong dir
[15:20:00] Xoritor: dont you just hate mornings like this?
[15:21:00] Xoritor: not that bad though
[15:21:00] Xoritor: at least i made a backup...
[15:21:00] Xoritor: ;-)
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[15:41:00] rasto: poop: do i have to clear channel information before i do mythfilldatabase?
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[15:41:00] rasto: if i change timeoffset
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[15:44:00] poop: rasto: I don't think so
[15:44:00] poop: I forgot I was poking around
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[15:45:00] rasto: poop: thanx i try again
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[15:48:00] poop: endtime: 2005-12–07 22:00:00
[15:48:00] poop: title: Lost
[15:48:00] poop: Looks like it stores local time.
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[15:50:00] poop: KillerBunny like this one? http://tinyurl.com/boj2t
[15:52:00] rasto: poop: where can i see the timeoffset in my tvlisting?
[15:52:00] rasto: is it all in database?
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[15:56:00] bitkid: Hi. Anyone using mythfrontend on Mac OS X?
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[15:57:00] bitkid: I have been trying to find info on the mythfrontend for os x website, but I can't find the answers I'm looking for
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[15:59:00] bitkid: When I start mythfrontend, it goes into config mode and asks what language I want to use, the name of the backend and the username and password for the database.
[16:00:00] bitkid: for the name I just enter the ip number
[16:00:00] bitkid: that should be alright, right?
[16:00:00] bitkid: when I hit next the application just quits
[16:01:00] bitkid: when I start it up again it starts all over except that the prefs I entered first time is already there
[16:02:00] bitkid: and when I hit finish it quits again
[16:02:00] laga: bitkid: start it in a terminal and look at the output
[16:02:00] bitkid: laga: good idea
[16:03:00] bitkid: why didn't I think of that first?
[16:04:00] bitkid: that helped me :)
[16:04:00] bitkid: thanks laga
[16:06:00] GreyFoxx: What was the problem ?
[16:06:00] bitkid: Can't connect to MySQL server on '10.0.0.6' (61)
[16:07:00] bitkid: I don't think the db server is accepting connections over the ethernet
[16:10:00] poop: easy fixed
[16:10:00] poop: easily
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[16:11:00] TonyB2005: mythtv: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:12:00] laga: TonyB2005: add /usr/local/lib/ to /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig
[16:12:00] laga: afk
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[16:13:00] TonyB2005: yay, thx alot
[16:13:00] TonyB2005: took me all day to compile it, i was pissed
[16:15:00] poop: Your days must be very short.
[16:16:00] TonyB2005: i had no dependences, and it doesnt compile with my version of qt (qt4), also gcc 4 doesnt work
[16:16:00] TonyB2005: so i had to get gcc 3.4
[16:17:00] TonyB2005: and the first 3 tries took half an hour to reach an error
[16:17:00] bitkid: I now get into the Application, but it can't connect to the mythbackend
[16:17:00] TonyB2005: i gotta setup mysql now :(
[16:17:00] poop: Tony: Look into ccache
[16:17:00] TonyB2005: what? its compiled now...
[16:17:00] bitkid: It asks whether I entered the correct IP number for it in the setup program
[16:18:00] bitkid: but I haven't entered anything for the backend
[16:18:00] bitkid: where do I do that?
[16:18:00] poop: bitkid: Can you connect with /usr/bin/mysql?
[16:18:00] bitkid: I connect to the database, but not the mythtvbackend
[16:19:00] poop: bitkid: I think the port the backend listens on is 6543, if you want to try telnet
[16:19:00] bitkid: oh... the backend is up and running, because I watching tv on it right now, on the same machine as the backend is on
[16:20:00] ** TonyB2005 installs mysql-server and phpmyadmin with apt **
[16:21:00] bitkid: telnet connects to the 6543 port
[16:21:00] poop: bitkid: I'd pore over the spew in your terminal from mythfrontend
[16:21:00] bitkid: oh again
[16:21:00] Dagmar: Ya'll notice Linux Journal this month has MythTV as the cover story?
[16:22:00] bitkid: the konsol is to my resque
[16:22:00] poop: Man, I haven't seen LJ in years
[16:22:00] bitkid: :)
[16:22:00] bitkid: it is trying to connect to localhost
[16:22:00] bitkid: where do I set the ip to connect to?
[16:23:00] Dagmar: poop: BTW, I wasn't gratuitously busting your chops about the lsof/netstat thing the other day. I figured if the socket *was* bound then we'd want to know the actual name of what's got it, instead of just the pid
[16:23:00] poop: Dagmar: Yeah, that's why I suggested lsof
[16:23:00] Krazylegz: People read dead-tree editions of magazines?
[16:24:00] laga: TonyB2005: what distro does ship with qt4?
[16:24:00] Krazylegz: Neat: http://www.linuxjournal.com/issue/140 .
[16:24:00] bitkid: laga: I believe opensuse does
[16:25:00] Dagmar: poop: I thought lsof just gives the pid
[16:25:00] Dagmar: Either way, I still stand behind my preference of netstat since it's a network query tool, even though the system also treats it like a file
[16:26:00] Dagmar: Krazylegz: I gotta have osmething to read when I've burned through the dross that AvantGo deems fit to let me have on my PDA
[16:26:00] bitkid: where is it I can enter the ip address of the mythbackend?
[16:26:00] poop: $ sudo lsof -i4 | grep myth
[16:26:00] poop: mythbacke 4799 mythtv 10u IPv4 10251 TCP *:6543 (LISTEN)
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[16:28:00] TonyB2005: hmm, does mythtv work O.K. with mysql 4.1?
[16:28:00] TonyB2005: or do i need an older version
[16:28:00] Xoritor: mysql-4.1.15–1.FC4.1
[16:28:00] GreyFoxx: 4.1 is finbe
[16:28:00] Xoritor: thats what i am using
[16:28:00] pigpen_: anyone know why recording channel is stuck on whatever the last-viewed channel was?
[16:29:00] pigpen_: everything else works perfectly
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[16:29:00] TonyB2005: 2005-12–03 11:29:35.835 Unable to connect to database!
[16:29:00] TonyB2005: 2005-12–03 11:29:35.835 No error type from QSqlError? Strange...
[16:29:00] TonyB2005: 2005-12–03 11:29:35.836 Failed to init MythContext, exiting.
[16:30:00] pigpen_: qt rebuild
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[16:30:00] pigpen_: I just got thru that one
[16:30:00] TonyB2005: laga: qt4 comes with debian testing
[16:30:00] pigpen_: there are use flags to deal with iirc
[16:30:00] TonyB2005: laga: (through apt)
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[16:31:00] laga: TonyB2005: heh.
[16:31:00] pigpen_: i think its qt3 with mysql support you need
[16:31:00] laga: there's a big fat warning somewhere in the docs that tells you not to use qt4
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[16:32:00] TonyB2005: apt-get install libqt3-mt-mysql :D
[16:32:00] poop: libmyth-0.18.1 depends on libqt3-mt-mysql | libqt3c102-mt-mysql
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[16:34:00] jd86: I have a mythfront/backend setup and i want to add another frontend, and i'm using the same version and when i try to connect it connects but i try to watch tv and it spits socket errors and stuff and then frontend says it cannot connect to it...
[16:35:00] dagfinnr: The GPG keys listed for the "Fedora Core 4 – i386 – Base" repository are already installed but they are not correct for this package.
[16:36:00] dagfinnr: what is wrong?/how can i fix it?
[16:36:00] pigpen_: jd86, ports 6543 and 6544 are open btw them?
[16:37:00] TonyB2005: 2005-12–03 11:36:46.203 Connecting to backend server: localhost:6543 (try 1 of 1)
[16:37:00] TonyB2005: 2005-12–03 11:36:46.203 Connection timed out.
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[16:38:00] jd86: pigpen_: it should be fine... mythweb can contact it
[16:38:00] jd86: i have an output for you to look at?
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[16:39:00] jd86: http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=5567
[16:39:00] pigpen_: if you have a specific err without a flood, go ahead
[16:40:00] dagfinnr: I've hvaing some toubles with installing myhttv-suite on fedora with yum
[16:40:00] dagfinnr: The GPG keys listed for the "Fedora Core 4 – i386 – Base" repository are already installed but they are not correct for this package.
[16:40:00] dagfinnr: what is wrong?/how can i fix it?
[16:40:00] dagfinnr: sorry if it was too long
[16:40:00] _nero_: Anyone here running Logitech Z5500 speakers?
[16:40:00] pigpen_: dagfinnr, you may have more luck in a fedora room
[16:41:00] poop: People dedicate entire rooms to linux distributions?
[16:41:00] pigpen_: funee
[16:41:00] dagfinnr: thanks pigpen_ . im gonna try it.
[16:41:00] _nero_: dag..
[16:41:00] jd86: anyone got any idea?
[16:41:00] _nero_: that is an easy gix..
[16:41:00] _nero_: fix..
[16:42:00] t00m: people dedicate channels to even worse things
[16:42:00] _nero_: http://www.fedorafaq.org/#gpgsig
[16:42:00] dagfinnr: lol
[16:42:00] _nero_: (that url was for dagfinnr )
[16:42:00] ** poop dedicates himself **
[16:43:00] jd86: :( poor frontend.
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[16:44:00] jd86: i wodner if theres some setting to setup
[16:44:00] pigpen_: jd86, that "mythtv: No such file or directory" is certainly suspicious, i wish I had a bullseye answer for you
[16:44:00] jd86: ok
[16:44:00] jd86: isn't that a lirc thing?
[16:44:00] laga: i think so
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[16:45:00] jd86: hrm
[16:45:00] jd86: is there some setting in the backend to allow remote frontends?
[16:46:00] pigpen_: yeah i think you have to set its ip to something other than 127.0.0.1
[16:46:00] dagfinnr: thanks for the url _nero_
[16:46:00] _nero_: jd86, is port 6453 open on the backend server?
[16:46:00] pigpen_: in the backend
[16:47:00] jd86: tcp 0 0 *:6543 *:* LISTEN
[16:47:00] _nero_: pigpen_, is right.. if you are setting up remote front ends, the backend has to have its broadcast (for lack of a better term) listed in the backend setup..
[16:48:00] jd86: so it is listening
[16:50:00] pigpen_: if you have another box around, maybe try connecting from that, to see if the issue is at the backend or exclusively at your current frontend
[16:50:00] pigpen_: big hammer, but may help :)
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[16:51:00] jd86: Its working
[16:51:00] jd86: yay!!#@*(&
[16:51:00] jd86: now to find some juice to run the other box
[16:51:00] pigpen_: what was it?
[16:54:00] jd86: i just restarted the backend...
[16:54:00] jd86: odd as that may be
[16:54:00] pigpen_: lol, love that
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[16:56:00] Chutt: some dumbfuck has their local root mail (cron warnings, etc) going to mythtv-dev.
[16:56:00] laga: *snicker*
[16:57:00] poop: This peecee just gets more retarded
[16:57:00] rjune: LOL
[16:57:00] Dagmar: Chutt: Be glad he's not running snort or something
[16:57:00] rjune: Chutt: that's funny stuff
[16:58:00] Chutt: about 30 messages over night
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[16:58:00] Chutt: unreality.dnsalias.net
[16:58:00] Dagmar: It would be *hundreds* if he had Snort installed
[16:58:00] Chutt: 203-59-122–169.dyn.iinet.net.au
[16:59:00] poop: 11:59:47 up 10:27, 1 user, load average: 14.86, 6.64, 2.69
[16:59:00] poop: mythtv-setup, I didn't know you had it in you
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[17:01:00] poop: There has to be some hardware buggery here.
[17:01:00] Chutt: oh, neat, he has them going to mythtv-users, too
[17:01:00] poop: Does mythtv-setup poke around the capture hardware?
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[17:04:00] poop: Out of Memory: Killed process 23375 (mythfrontend).
[17:04:00] poop: munch munch
[17:05:00] Dagmar: It's like a little rambo in there sometimes
[17:05:00] laga: so we have this spiffy thing called "zweikanalton" in germany (rough translation: second audio program). in analog broadcasts, it's used to deliver two audio streams, for example for two different languages. i believe it works similar to stereo broadcast, each audio stream is put into a different channel. how can i use this within mythtv?
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[17:05:00] Dagmar: Myth supports SAP already
[17:05:00] Dagmar: ...or at least I've seen it in the OSD at least once now
[17:05:00] Dagmar: I can watch a lot of channels in Spanish here with it
[17:05:00] ** poop wields Rod of Salty Might +2 **
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[17:06:00] Dagmar: lol
[17:06:00] poop: These pretzels are making me thirsty.
[17:06:00] laga: Dagmar: yep, i see this, too. but it only works for me with DVB recordings (if the mpeg file has two audio streams). but in this case, the two languages are mixed into one stream, and mythtv only plays the first language
[17:07:00] laga: i'm talking about a PVR 500 here, and you can hear the second language if you play around with ivtvctl.
[17:07:00] laga: maybe you need to set it before recording? that would make sense.
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[17:08:00] Dagmar: poop: Not convincing enough. You don't really sound thirsty.
[17:08:00] poop: These pretzels are making me THIRSTY!
[17:08:00] Nothingman_: poop: better
[17:08:00] wizard: Hi !
[17:08:00] _nero_: eh.. on a scale of 1 to thirsty, I give it a 2.
[17:08:00] poop: Woody just turned 70. Maybe he'll stop making movies soon.
[17:09:00] Dagmar: Been trying to figure out how to get one of the guys who has done some nice artwork for Dropline a copy of Slack 10.2, and it finally hit us this morning that there *is* actually _mail_ to Argentina
[17:09:00] Dagmar: I feel so stupid for having forgotten that some people actually transfer small physical objects across long distanceas
[17:10:00] Dagmar: Lemme see if I can find where i saw the SAP stuff
[17:10:00] wizard: Might be someone can help me – i havent found something at the wiki or even google.... mythtv shows no pic, sound every 10 sec for 0.5sec or so — anyone any idea ?
[17:10:00] poop: I hear there are giant companies that make lots of money at it.
[17:10:00] Dagmar: poop: Yeah, but I've gotten used to thinking of ISOs as things you shoot across the internet, and the poor guy recently moved to a dialup-only area
[17:10:00] laga: Dagmar: thanks.
[17:10:00] poop: Clearly he didn't do his research before moving.
[17:11:00] Dagmar: ...which is sad because I'm practically a sneakernet pioneer from Commodore 64 days
[17:11:00] Dagmar: I was a terrible packrat about demos then
[17:11:00] Dagmar: Showing up a copy parties with a *large grocery sack full of 5 1/4" floppies*
[17:12:00] laga: hehe
[17:12:00] poop: Hey, you couldn't just bend those.
[17:12:00] Dagmar: You could.
[17:12:00] Dagmar: You could staple them to things too if you weren't stupid about it
[17:12:00] poop: I have SLS on 5.25" floppy somewhere.
[17:13:00] Dagmar: I used to torture my poor teacher in high school by doing that to my homework
[17:13:00] Dagmar: She couldn't *stand* seeing a floppy with a staple in it
[17:14:00] laga: Dagmar: is Dagmar d'Surreal your real name?
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[17:15:00] Nothingman_: no, it's his surreal name
[17:16:00] Nothingman_: *ducks*
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[17:17:00] Dagmar: laga: No, it's just my 'nym
[17:18:00] Dagmar: However, I've been using it for so long and in so many places you stand a way better chance of finding me by looking for it than my actual real name
[17:18:00] laga: Dagmar: sad. sounds cool, though
[17:18:00] Dagmar: *Everyone* calls me Dagmar
[17:18:00] laga: Dagmar: that works, too.
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[17:18:00] bitkid: Dagmar: which country are you from?
[17:18:00] Dagmar: They call me by my given name at work just because it's the technically correct thing to do
[17:19:00] Dagmar: Outside of the office even those people call me Dagmar
[17:19:00] Dagmar: #@$$ i can never remember how to get the OSD up
[17:19:00] laga: do you realize it's a female name?
[17:19:00] bitkid: Dagmar: o?
[17:19:00] Dagmar: Yeah, but when I first started using it it was just a bunch of random syllables
[17:19:00] laga: Dagmar: hehe. shit happens ;)
[17:19:00] Dagmar: Okay, then i'm right and some themes appear to be killing the OSD
[17:20:00] Dagmar: Like in the early 80's I was using "Greble Dagmar of Venus" as a handle
[17:20:00] dagfinnr: when im in the mythtv-setup..i have a pvr150 card..what should i choose as the capture card?
[17:20:00] Chutt: this is getting damn annoying
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[17:20:00] Dagmar: Then I had some knee surgery and had some friends who only knew me from BBSes come out to where I lived to take me into town for some fun (and to get me out of the lounger because I was going more than a little mad)
[17:20:00] Dagmar: They just called me Dagmar.
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[17:21:00] Dagmar: ...and then I started DJing and weird crap happened around me like I was a lightning rod for about a decade and I stuck d'Surreal onto the end of it
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[17:22:00] Dagmar: dagfinnr: The one that talks about the 250/350 (can't remember the option's exact name at the moment)
[17:22:00] Dagmar: I *think*
[17:22:00] dagfinnr: cool..
[17:22:00] Dagmar: If it has hardware accelleration then yes.
[17:22:00] t00m: nuvexport doesn't do very much about documentation, does it?
[17:22:00] dagfinnr: weird that it doesent list the 150 card too
[17:22:00] Dagmar: If not, tell it Video4Linux (if you're using bttv)
[17:22:00] Dagmar: It should really probably just say the name of the driver instead of messing around like that
[17:23:00] Dagmar: I might change that for the Dropline package just to save some hassle
[17:23:00] dagfinnr: Dagmar, what should i use as the video device? i assume default input is television?
[17:23:00] Dagmar: Lemme go switch back to a sensible thing and dig for that OSD
[17:23:00] Dagmar: dagfinnr: Which section? I have to practically go through the setup program by touch it's such a mess
[17:24:00] Dagmar: I just work down the numbers in setup. The names make little sense.
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[17:25:00] dagfinnr: Dagmar, where i choose the card type..i have to choose card typ, video device and default input
[17:25:00] Dagmar: Lemme look at that one here
[17:25:00] dagfinnr: :)
[17:26:00] Dagmar: You're using ivtv?
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[17:27:00] dagfinnr: yeah
[17:27:00] Dagmar: Okay, yeah, if it has mpeg compression you use the second option in the list for Card Type. The one that says "MPEG2" and "250/350"
[17:27:00] dagfinnr: im following the fedora howto
[17:27:00] Dagmar: ...even though it's a 150
[17:27:00] dagfinnr: yeah
[17:27:00] Dagmar: It doesn't say 500, either, mind you
[17:27:00] dagfinnr: its a 150 on a m10000 via board
[17:27:00] Dagmar: It's basically just selecting ivtv as the input
[17:27:00] dagfinnr: ok
[17:28:00] Dagmar: Just one warning tho, you want the channel listings tied to "Tuner 0" not "Tuner 1"
[17:28:00] Dagmar: The screen where it shows all the various inputs on the card, things just get baffling
[17:29:00] Dagmar: Don't tie anything to Tuner 1 at all, in fact
[17:29:00] sphing: Dagmar: why?
[17:29:00] Dagmar: With the 500 it's confusing because you know you have two tuners
[17:30:00] sphing: i thought the 150 had 2 tuners?
[17:30:00] Dagmar: sphing: because when you try to select between tuners it'll wind up including it in the list
[17:30:00] Dagmar: No the 150 only has noe
[17:30:00] Dagmar: er one
[17:30:00] Dagmar: The 500 has two
[17:30:00] sphing: ahh that explains it
[17:30:00] sphing: i have a 250...
[17:30:00] Dagmar: ...but the thing will show Tuner 0 and Tuner 1 for *both* tuners
[17:30:00] Dagmar: ...so on the 500 it gets confusing because you don't know if you should use Tuner 0 and Tuner 1 or what
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[17:31:00] Dagmar: ...but you use Tuner 0 for both "cards" it shows
[17:31:00] Dagmar: I didn't get anything on the screen when I first tried to use Tuner 1
[17:32:00] sphing: Dagmar: if 150 only has 1 input.. why are there 2 tuners?
[17:32:00] Dagmar: If you bind channel listings to Tuner 1 tho when you accidentally hit the key to switch to a different input, you wind up just killing the display
[17:32:00] Dagmar: sphing: Something to do with the way the driver works. I really don't know why it itemized two for each actual tuner
[17:33:00] Dagmar: Someone that devs for ivtv would probably know why
[17:34:00] sphing: ah
[17:35:00] bitkid: is there a parameter I should give to Mythfrontend to get into setup?
[17:35:00] sphing: bitkid: totally different app mythtv-setup
[17:35:00] bitkid: yeah
[17:35:00] bitkid: thought so
[17:35:00] bitkid: but in the os x version there is no setup app
[17:35:00] Chutt: there, abuse notice sent to the moron's isp
[17:35:00] bitkid: and it tries to connect to the wrong backend
[17:35:00] Chutt: the osx version doesn't need the setup app, since it only configures the backend.
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[17:36:00] Dagmar: #$@$
[17:36:00] bitkid: oh
[17:36:00] Dagmar: I still can't get the osd menu up. I think this install has gotten hosed somehow
[17:36:00] bitkid: where is it then that I choose the ip of the backend?
[17:36:00] sphing: Chutt: what'd I miss?
[17:36:00] Dagmar: I could have sworn it was O or P, and I jsut set the OSD back to "defaultosd"
[17:37:00] Chutt: some fucktard has their system email (cron/postfix warnings) being sent to the dev and users list
[17:37:00] Chutt: mailman's catching them, but it's still damn annoying.
[17:37:00] Chutt: up to almost 200 messages today
[17:37:00] Chutt: dagmar, 'm', and 'i'
[17:37:00] Dagmar: Chutt; I can't even imagine how stoned the guy must have been to make that kind of misconfiguration
[17:38:00] Chutt: he's in .au, so, who knows =)
[17:38:00] sphing: Chutt: i was about to say... i'm not seeing it
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[17:41:00] sphing: OT does anyone know any good white papers on decentralized communication?
[17:41:00] sphing: between servers
[17:41:00] Dagmar: Bleh. I could have sworn I'd seen SAP settings in there somewhere but I've been through all the menus now and still can't find it. Oh well
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[17:42:00] GCarrier: hi!
[17:42:00] GCarrier: i just installed mythtv under debian and i've got a problem:
[17:42:00] Dagmar: sphing: Literally whole forests have been stripped on such papers
[17:42:00] GCarrier: Session management error: [...]and host-based authentication failed."
[17:42:00] Dagmar: sphing; Could you be more specific about what aspect? I'm sure I can come up with some solid Google keywords for you
[17:42:00] sphing: Dagmar: yea but none are recent that i've found
[17:42:00] Chutt: welp, time to paint the ceiling
[17:42:00] Krazylegz: MythPaintCeiling?
[17:42:00] sphing: haha
[17:43:00] Dagmar: sphing: well, basically the only recent development has been Bram blowing everything away with Bittorrent
[17:43:00] Dagmar: Decentralized networks have two major issues that no one has yet solved
[17:43:00] Dagmar: Well, three issues if you count a security requirement as one
[17:43:00] sphing: Dagmar: can I pm?
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[17:44:00] t00m: gn8
[17:44:00] Dagmar: sphing: If you can solve the problem of how to get *on* a network that you don't know where exists, you've basically licked it.  ;)
[17:45:00] sphing: well that doesn't apply to me... cause I can do a DNS lookup
[17:45:00] sphing: (ignoring the first case)
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[17:45:00] Dagmar: ...then the spanning tree issue of trying to keep from having messages between peers going *everywhere* or just incredibly circuitous routes should be asy
[17:45:00] Dagmar: er easy
[17:45:00] Dagmar: The third one is a matter of how can you tell you're actually on the right networkk without a massive database of crypto keys
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[17:46:00] sphing: i have a good idea of how to do it... i just wanted to read some papers and not fumble things
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[17:46:00] Dagmar: Well, don't be disappointed if you get stuck
[17:47:00] Dagmar: A guy I know who now works for Google was actually getting *grant* money to develop a decentralized IM system about the time Jabber came out
[17:47:00] wizard: The frontend keeps on logging "audio waiting for space on soundcard" even on playback of recordings only
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[17:47:00] Dagmar: He was going to CMU at the time and had access to all their resources and it just appears to be somewhat insoluble
[17:47:00] ** FreeBUD just installed the KnoppMythR5A9.iso (again) Now, what document should I read to actuall install so I can watch TV (I had it working once then broke it somehow) ? I found one link to http://www.mysettopbox.tv/doc.html#manualinstall doesn't seem to match with what I see — any help is appreciated **
[17:47:00] wizard: recording seems to work – also the preview ...
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[17:48:00] wizard: snd prob ?
[17:48:00] wizard: anyone willing to help me ?
[17:48:00] Dibblah: Does anyone have a DVB-s DiSeQC 2 way switch that works with Myth?
[17:48:00] ** FreeBUD is sitting at the "MnoppMyth was successfully installed to hd. at the shell **
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[17:49:00] Dagmar: sphing: AHA!
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[17:49:00] poop: I can't find what ALSA: device to use with snd_bt87x
[17:49:00] sphing: Dagmar: i'm developing a prototype system for communication between 60+ systems for load balancing and resource handling
[17:49:00] Dagmar: sphing: Email John Bucy (bucy at gloop dot org) and explain to him what it is you're trying to figure out
[17:49:00] Dagmar: He can probably tell you what he was using as base research for the IM network
[17:50:00] sphing: well ihavent dont any dev work just research mostly
[17:50:00] FreeBUD: should I run mythtv-setup now ? is there a better link that the 2 above or http://home.comcast.net/~alf_park/mythtv.html ?
[17:50:00] Dibblah: FreeBud: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO.html
[17:50:00] Dibblah: Start at 6.
[17:50:00] Dibblah: Run all the way through.
[17:50:00] Dagmar: Unless there's some way to *hash* the topology of the Internet, I bascially don't think it's possible until IPv6 rolls out. You *could* just use IPv6
[17:50:00] Dibblah: Don't skip steps that "aren't required".
[17:50:00] FreeBUD: thanks diamon
[17:50:00] FreeBUD: er
[17:51:00] FreeBUD: Dibblah
[17:51:00] Dibblah: K.
[17:51:00] wizard: An hind for me, too ? Please ?!
[17:51:00] FreeBUD: printing (sorry trees) so I can check them the steps with a pen
[17:51:00] Dagmar: If you've got 60+ systems and not like 10,000 of them and they're all on one segment (or close to it) just use mbone/multicast
[17:51:00] sphing: Dagmar: no they're not on a segment
[17:51:00] sphing: they're all over the world
[17:51:00] Dibblah: FreeBUD: Some of this probably isn't needed with KnoppMyth... But I couldn't tell you what.
[17:51:00] Dagmar: ouch
[17:52:00] sphing: ... yea
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[17:52:00] Dagmar: Well, at least it's small enough that he should be able to point you in the right direction
[17:52:00] FreeBUD: thanks again Dibblah
[17:53:00] FreeBUD: ok yes I remember this doc now
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[17:53:00] Dagmar: Just like stringing ethernet around through too many hubs, there are only so many hops you can have traffic go on a scattered network before things start becoming unwholesomely chatty
[17:53:00] sphing: yea
[17:54:00] Dagmar: It's a PhD level problem
[17:54:00] sphing: yea well this is my undergrad project
[17:54:00] Dibblah: FreeBUD: And a little more searching leads to: http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=KnoppMythInstall
[17:54:00] FreeBUD: Dibblah I will probably never get a remote control so I guess I am going to skip that
[17:55:00] Dagmar: sphing: You may decide you want to lay some rigid controls down and not go with it being completely decentralized
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[17:56:00] Dagmar: sphing: I have kept running into that same problem again and again. During the dot-com boom I was working for a company with servers all over
[17:56:00] sphing: i'm really avoiding that... so we'll see what i do... its a team of 6 of us... and we have like 6 months
[17:56:00] sphing: but this is just a sliver of the problem
[17:56:00] Dagmar: The best thing I could think of to update stuff in a decentralized way was literally perl *phages* that would hop from box to box at random checking and updating
[17:57:00] sphing: Dagmar: plus it needs to be in C
[17:57:00] Dagmar: ...but I'd still wind up with some that had to be specifically targeted
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[17:57:00] FreeBUD: AH yes that is the one If you are installing an R5 alpha version, you should follow the instructions listed at http://www.mysettopbox.tv/doc.html FIRST!
[17:57:00] FreeBUD: I thoughtI saw it the other night but I thought I dreamed it
[17:58:00] Dagmar: sphing: I would suggest you avoid the subject of "real world use" a little and have it do as much route measurement as necessary.  ;)
[17:58:00] sphing: its not a performance measure
[17:59:00] Dagmar: So long as you don't have more than a hundred nodes or so, they don't get swallowed up in doing nothing but measuring routes to each other
[17:59:00] sphing: as in its not to test connects
[17:59:00] Dagmar: Do you actually not *care* which way they connect to each other?
[17:59:00] sphing: its pretty much just to test if theyre up and their resource utilization
[17:59:00] sphing: not really...
[18:00:00] sphing: my idea was to use XML to pass data between them
[18:00:00] Dagmar: ...because that takes a *huge* chunk of the problem out of the way
[18:00:00] Dagmar: One of the insolubles was that after the network reaches a certain size it becomes impossible to accurately determine if a peer is connected to optimally close peers
[18:00:00] sphing: lol...serious graph analyzing
[18:01:00] Dagmar: ...and then stuff starts sending data over links it probably shouldn't and the topology kind of crumbles like a cheap ball of steel wool
[18:01:00] Dagmar: ...but if you've got between 60 and 100 it shouldn't be a problem at all
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[18:01:00] ** FreeBUD has to start over since he did not make swap partitions and has a / only **
[18:02:00] Dagmar: I sat down and worked out the numbers on that thing myself
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[18:02:00] sphing: Dagmar: i'm gonna google scholar and see what pops up
[18:02:00] Dagmar: If the IM users were on modems the network couldn't go beyond about 12,000 nodes before *all* the modem's bandwidth would be devoted 24/7 to measuring routes
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[18:03:00] phoner: can mythfrontend simply be used as the shell for a user?
[18:03:00] Dagmar: ...and I think most people on modems would get pissed off about that way before it got that far. Heh
[18:03:00] Dagmar: sphing: Maybe give each host a list of about 20 random peers to connect to like Gnutella does
[18:04:00] Dagmar: phoner: Eh? You mean a box junt running the frontend? Yeah
[18:04:00] Dagmar: ...not *because* Gnutella does mind you, just because it's the cheapest solution to a problem you're specifically not caring about
[18:04:00] phoner: like in some of the guides they have ways to make the frontend autostart
[18:05:00] phoner: but wouldn't that be the easiest way?
[18:05:00] Dagmar: phoner: If you're making a dedicated box, sure.
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[18:05:00] sphing: Dagmar: i think im gonna build into the communication a request list where i can pull the list of all known hosts and compare
[18:05:00] Dagmar: If you know enouogh about X to be dangerous you can easily have mythfrontend start in the place of GDM
[18:05:00] Dagmar: er gdm/xdm/kdm
[18:06:00] Dagmar: phoner: I just gave it an icon and put it on my desktop tho
[18:06:00] phoner: I'd like a way to have it auto run when it crashes
[18:07:00] Dagmar: Well, if you've wedged it into the place where gdm/xdm/kdm usually sits in the init scripts, init will restart it if/when it dies
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[18:12:00] cout_: I read on the irc logs that live tv is broken in svn? is this still the case?
[18:12:00] sphing: no
[18:12:00] sphing: i believe it was fixed a couple days ago
[18:12:00] sphing: but i dont use svn so i cant confirm
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[18:13:00] sphing: cout_ try the #mythtv
[18:13:00] phoner: mine as of yesterday is working
[18:13:00] cout_: sphing: that's the devel channel?
[18:13:00] sphing: yup
[18:15:00] cout_: is it safe to downgrade?
[18:16:00] Brixius: Question, if I'm watching live tv, when a recording is scheduled to start, it lets me continue to watch live tv, but if I go back to the menu it doesn't let me back into livetv to continue watching.
[18:17:00] cout_: brixius: do you see any interesting messages in /home/mythtv/.xsession-errors ?
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[18:18:00] sphing: Brixius: you click to cancel the recording correct?
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[18:19:00] cout_: one more question, is it possible to set up mythweather to play elevator music?
[18:19:00] sphing: lol
[18:19:00] sphing: not sure
[18:19:00] bitkid: a good idea though
[18:20:00] cout_: bitkid: but only for the novelty of it :)
[18:20:00] bitkid: sure :)
[18:21:00] cout_: I can't believe I'm actually putting this old hardware to good use. I think this is like the second time in 8 years that I've actually used my irman.
[18:21:00] sphing: haha
[18:22:00] cout_: but I think I'll have to trade out my bt878 for one that does encoding.
[18:22:00] Brixius: nothing in .xsession-errors, but the screen says that myth is allready using all avail inputs for recording.
[18:23:00] sphing: cout_: the PVR series does hardware encoding
[18:23:00] sphing: which makes it IDEAL for using it on old hardware
[18:23:00] sphing: my backend is a p3–500
[18:23:00] cout_: yeah
[18:24:00] cout_: hehe, I'm running a c3/800
[18:24:00] sphing: however it gives an encoding lag
[18:24:00] sphing: cout_: yea a frontend of mine is a c3/1ghz
[18:24:00] Brixius: is there anyway to reconfigure it to allow me to watch even though it's using the tuner to record a show
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[18:24:00] sphing: Brixius: do you have more than one tuner
[18:24:00] GreyFoxx: sphing: You get the same lag using a software card with myth
[18:24:00] cout_: sphine: that's a MUCH faster cpu (nehemiah core)
[18:25:00] Brixius: no
[18:25:00] sphing: GreyFoxx: yea, but the lag is the software encoding, so in theory a faster machine would lower the lag no?
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[18:25:00] GreyFoxx: sphing: Not really no
[18:25:00] sphing: well then... nevermind
[18:26:00] cout_: even our replaytv (5000 series) has some lag. it's to be expected with a pvr.
[18:26:00] sphing: my friends have a pvr/cable box combo
[18:26:00] sphing: with no lag
[18:26:00] Brixius: right now, I only have one, I'm trying to see how easy it will be to use myth instead of tivo
[18:26:00] sphing: Brixius: you can't do with tivo either
[18:27:00] Brixius: sure you can, but it warns you when you go to change channel's
[18:27:00] sphing: Brixius: well you cancel the recording
[18:27:00] cout_: sphing: those don't have to do any encoding, though, do they? since it's already encoded?
[18:27:00] Brixius: yep
[18:27:00] sphing: Brixius: you can do that with myth also... just delete the recording
[18:28:00] sphing: cout_: the pvr series already encodes it, so myth sees an mpeg2 stream so it uses that
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[18:28:00] Brixius: sphing: ok, seems like it should let you back into live tv, then warn you when you goto change channel that the recording will be cancled if you change channels
[18:29:00] Brixius: sphing: but that's just what I got used to, so I'll have to learn the new way I guess.
[18:29:00] cout_: where do I find the settings to set up downloading of tv listings?
[18:29:00] sphing: mythtv-setup
[18:30:00] sphing: Brixius: thats something you could fix if you editted the code
[18:30:00] cout_: sphing: is that different from the settings page in the frontend?
[18:30:00] GreyFoxx: cout_: under mythtv-setup . I would also suggest the documentation on mythtv.org as it has step by step instructions
[18:30:00] poonj: hey gys
[18:30:00] GreyFoxx: cout_: yes
[18:30:00] poonj: I'm trying to compile mythtv from the tarball
[18:30:00] Juski: you know the deal with those PVRs & STBs that seem to have no lag when you change channels? one of the benefits of digital TV is that the adjacent channel is usually on the same stream, so it's quite easy to pre-cache to speed up the change
[18:30:00] ** Brixius is somewhat of a noob when it comes to MythTV. So if he asks stupid questions, please be patient with him. **
[18:30:00] Brixius: haha
[18:30:00] cout_: greyfoxx: thanks, I knew I'd seen it somewhere.
[18:30:00] laga: Juski: heya. does your dbox work with latest SVN?
[18:31:00] poonj: its giving me the error In file included from mp3lameaudio.c:27:
[18:31:00] poonj: /usr/include/lame/lame.h:116: error: syntax error before numeric constant make[2]: *** [mp3lameaudio.o] Error 1
[18:31:00] Juski: dbox? what dbox?
[18:31:00] poonj: anyone here have an idea?
[18:31:00] laga: Juski: dboxII? ;)
[18:31:00] Juski: Hi laga: my dbox is stashed in a cupboard.. useless PoS that it is
[18:31:00] cout_: sphing: a while ago I saw some tv cards on ebay that do mpeg encoding for about $30 plus shipping. I wonder if they're any good (and whether they're linux-compatible)
[18:31:00] laga: Juski: hehehe. right. quite crashy
[18:32:00] Juski: quite crashy. Kinda makes windows ME look stable
[18:32:00] laga: Juski: hehehe
[18:33:00] Juski: it's t00 l337 for me anyway
[18:33:00] cout_: poonj: is that the only error? or are there others before it?
[18:33:00] poonj: thats it
[18:33:00] poonj: I think I got it going again
[18:33:00] poonj: it was a feature I enabled in configure that wasn't supported probably
[18:34:00] poonj: that I don't have libraries to support I mean
[18:34:00] poonj: xvid and something else
[18:34:00] Juski: laga: I have a plan to ressurect it sometime, but I'll use a capture card & make a http channel change script for it. It's puny LAN controller isn't up to the job (nor is it's CPU)
[18:34:00] Juski: I had all kinds of grand things planned for it, then I started playing with some theme or other
[18:35:00] Juski: anyway.. what the hell am I gonna do with over 250 channels? I can barely keep up with the recordings I make as it is
[18:35:00] laga: Juski: ;) levon is working on an udp recording thingie, i believe it's supposed to make things more stable. dunno if it helps the bloody ethernet chip
[18:36:00] Juski: laga: there may yet be salvation in the form of the DVB-C Dreambox ;)
[18:36:00] laga: i don't get that many channels. but the stuff i'm paying for comes over the dbox...
[18:37:00] laga: Juski: i hear the ethernet controller of the dreambox 7020 if quite shitty, too
[18:37:00] Juski: yeh laga but it's a shitty 100mb chip
[18:37:00] Juski: as opposed to a shitty 10mb chip
[18:37:00] laga: compared to...hehe, beat me to it
[18:37:00] laga: time for beer, i think
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[18:37:00] _nero_: ugh.. Frustrating...
[18:38:00] ** _nero_ is starting to really hate mandriva. **
[18:38:00] laga: yay, call for distro war.
[18:38:00] laga: debian sarge owns.
[18:38:00] _nero_: no distro war..
[18:38:00] Juski: like robot-wars, but more geeky (if that's possible)
[18:38:00] laga: sad.
[18:38:00] _nero_: just frustrated that they cant package things..
[18:38:00] _nero_: I need to install glu.h (non MESA version).. not available from what I can find in Mandriva..
[18:39:00] _nero_: every other distro provides it with the xorg-x11-development package.. not Mandriva..
[18:39:00] Juski: they're only headers aren't they though?
[18:39:00] _nero_: "it shouldn't be this hard" (tm)
[18:39:00] poop: nero: No equivalent to apt-file?
[18:40:00] _nero_: Juski- yes they are headers..
[18:40:00] _nero_: but the MESA headers are different from the standard glu headers
[18:40:00] Juski: there _had_ to be an uber-catch
[18:40:00] poonj: okay....got another error for libmyth during compile
[18:40:00] poonj: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[18:40:00] poonj: make[2]: *** [mythepg] Error 1
[18:41:00] poonj: what feature or library do I need for mythepg?
[18:41:00] _nero_: poop.. not sure about apt-file
[18:41:00] Juski: poonj: bit hard to tell from that snippet
[18:42:00] GCarrier: can i record a dvb stream while looking it in gxine please?
[18:42:00] Juski: (for me anyway)
[18:42:00] poonj: justki
[18:42:00] poonj: I'll MSG you the whole thing
[18:42:00] Juski: GCarrier: mythtv will probably report the device is busy
[18:42:00] Juski: poonj: no you won't.. use a pastebin ;)
[18:42:00] poonj: whats the link for that?
[18:43:00] Juski: it starts with www.pastebin
[18:43:00] GCarrier: ...
[18:43:00] GCarrier: can i record and see a stream at the same time with mythtv?
[18:43:00] GCarrier: :P
[18:43:00] sphing: yes
[18:43:00] GCarrier: timeshifting? :P
[18:43:00] Juski: GCarrier: you can watch what you're currently recording, yes
[18:43:00] poop: GC: livetv
[18:43:00] poonj: http://pastebin.com/447444
[18:43:00] Juski: record, pause, rewind, fast forward, time-stretch/compress...
[18:44:00] GCarrier: ok ok
[18:45:00] GCarrier: interesting :P
[18:45:00] Juski: poonj: looks like you're missing the ivtv headers maybe... anyone agree with that?
[18:46:00] poonj: umm, I don't have a tv card installed...
[18:46:00] poonj: I just wanted to use myth as a frontend
[18:46:00] poonj: and test it out
[18:46:00] Juski: poonj: you might need to take a closer look at the ./configure options
[18:46:00] poonj: okay
[18:46:00] laga: Juski: i believe that mythtv doesn't need ivtv headers
[18:46:00] Juski: poonj: without the backend running you might have a hard time running the frontend
[18:46:00] laga: or maybe it comes shipped with some
[18:47:00] Juski: laga: so why the error about the undefined reference?
[18:47:00] laga: Juski: where?
[18:47:00] poonj: Juski, I'll hvae that
[18:47:00] Juski: lines 22–26
[18:48:00] poonj: heh, I know ... I'm just trying to compile from the tarball...I had debian packages before this
[18:49:00] laga: poonj: are you sure that you have all the necessary build-time dependencies?
[18:49:00] poonj: I have qt
[18:50:00] poonj: I looked at the howto...didn't really have a list other than qt3
[18:50:00] Juski: qt3-devel
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[18:50:00] poonj: I have that..
[18:50:00] Juski: liblame-dev
[18:50:00] poonj: got that..
[18:50:00] laga: poonj: i can give you a nice, comprehensive list of the needed packages.
[18:50:00] poonj: please send it over!
[18:50:00] Juski: yeh that's true (you life saver you ;) )
[18:51:00] laga: poonj: http://pastebin.ca/32097
[18:51:00] laga: Juski: i'm so not a condom.
[18:51:00] Juski: lol laga
[18:51:00] ** Juski stops over-doing the thanks **
[18:51:00] laga: ;)
[18:52:00] laga: poonj: and i'd recommend that you do a make clean and start over after installing them
[18:52:00] poonj: yeah
[18:52:00] poonj: what about libmyth-0.18.1-dev
[18:53:00] poonj: am I supposed to compile htat? or install it as a deb?
[18:53:00] laga: poonj: this list is from the debian packages. you don't need that one.
[18:53:00] laga: poonj: and you don't need debhelper either
[18:53:00] laga: dammit!!!
[18:54:00] laga: sorry, this is the list for mythplugins
[18:54:00] laga: wait a sec, please, i'm confused.
[18:55:00] ** Juski looks in his bash history **
[18:55:00] laga: http://pastebin.ca/32243 <- this is the right one
[18:56:00] Juski: then realises the box isn't powered on.. :/
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[18:57:00] Juski: oh gawd.. I looked at some proper HDTVs today... it's totally sickening
[19:00:00] cout_: hmm
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[19:02:00] Juski: you know the xml files used for mythtv themes? can they have includes, or does everything have to be in one file?
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[19:06:00] Juski: actually, forget I ever asked such a lame question
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[19:10:00] T`: hi.. anyone here use avidemux2 to transcode their mpeg recording in mythtv?
[19:11:00] T`: wuould like to know if someone can give me the settings they use to decrease the file size
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[19:13:00] poonj: how are the CVS versions of myth?
[19:13:00] _nero_: there is no CVS version.. ;)
[19:13:00] poonj: sounds like those are even more fun
[19:13:00] _nero_: (its SVN now)
[19:13:00] poonj: whats SVN?
[19:14:00] _nero_: subversion..
[19:14:00] _nero_: similar system to cvs.
[19:14:00] poonj: ohh okay
[19:14:00] poonj: well, how about the overniight versions of myth
[19:14:00] poonj: how do those compile?
[19:14:00] _nero_: They compile fine..
[19:14:00] _nero_: if you have everything for them to compile..
[19:14:00] poonj: heh
[19:14:00] poonj: finding that is always fun  ;)
[19:15:00] _nero_: just read the readme..
[19:15:00] laga: svn.mythtv.org
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[19:20:00] Juski: lol... 'Strictly come dancing' is labelled as 'entertainment'.. I like how the guide people have a SoH
[19:21:00] T`: no one transcoding their myth recordings?
[19:21:00] T`: a 30 min show is like 1GB for me!!
[19:21:00] laga: T`: www.forevermore.net check out nuvexport
[19:21:00] _nero_: finally got this glx stuff working.. damn.. had to copy over header files from my fedora install..
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[19:22:00] sona_: are there any other programs than mythfrontend that can connect to mythbackend ?
[19:22:00] Juski: sona_: nope
[19:22:00] sona_: or can I run mythfrontend in windowed mode ?
[19:22:00] laga: sona_: telnet can connect to mythbackend. what do you want?
[19:22:00] laga: oh, ok
[19:22:00] poonj: btw
[19:23:00] T`: laga, can i use it even though i have my nuv in mpeg already?
[19:23:00] sphing: laga... telnet... ill
[19:23:00] Juski: oh wait there's the XBMCmyth scripts
[19:23:00] poonj: no one is maintaining the debian packages for mythtv naymore...
[19:23:00] _nero_: sona_ sure.. appearance --> run myhthtv in window
[19:23:00] poonj: so everyone has to do this from a tarball?
[19:23:00] sona_: oh that simple :) sorry for asking
[19:23:00] poonj: do this as in installing mythv
[19:23:00] laga: T`: i dont know what you mean
[19:23:00] _nero_: no worries.. :)
[19:23:00] cout_: why do I get the error "GuideGrid: You don't have any channels defined in the database. Guide grid will have nothing to show you."
[19:23:00] poop: poonj: The debs are still there, as are the source packages if you want to build them.
[19:24:00] poonj: but they aren't updated right?
[19:24:00] Juski: T': in the current release, all recordings have the extension .nuv whether they're nupplevideo or not
[19:24:00] poop: poonj: When was the last mythtv release?
[19:25:00] ** _nero_ cant wait for his new speakers to arrive.. :) **
[19:25:00] Juski: cout_: possibly because you don't have any channels defined in the database.. i.e. you need to set them up in mythtv-setup
[19:25:00] cout_: juski: I did that.
[19:25:00] poonj: well, I'm saying future releases
[19:27:00] T`: laga, the nuv file is already in mpg format for me since i have a PVR 150
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[19:27:00] T`: laga, can i still use nuvexport to reduce the size?
[19:27:00] laga: T`: oh, hehe. yes, it will work fine.
[19:27:00] laga: T`: well, nuvexport will transcode the file to a normal .avi or mpeg. you can't use it in mythtv anymore then (at least not without fiddling), but you can use mythvideo
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[19:33:00] _nero_: what is SIP listening on IP Address 192.168.2.1:5060 NAT address 192.168.2.1
[19:33:00] laga: _nero_: mythphone
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[19:35:00] _nero_: ahhh.. gotcha
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[19:35:00] Weezey: I want to record from my VCR on the TV tuner input on the PVR-350, what's the best way to do that?
[19:37:00] Weezey: Also, a general mythtv question; what if I'm just watching tv and something cool comes on or I saw a commercial I want to keep or something, can I just rewind to where it starts and press a key to start recording that?
[19:37:00] poop: Weezy: tune to channel 3
[19:38:00] Weezey: poop: How do I add that channel to the backend so it shows up in the guide?
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[19:41:00] laga: Weezey: mythtv-setup -> last entry ther
[19:41:00] laga: there*
[19:45:00] Weezey: ahh, the TV cuts off part of the screen so I missed the "(New " part of (New Channel)
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[19:49:00] Juski: oo google has spidered my webshite :)
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[19:50:00] Juski: laga.. what on Earth is this all about? http://swik.net/juski
[19:58:00] kormoc: looks like another myth wiki
[20:00:00] Juski: I never agreed to be on any wiki :/
[20:00:00] kormoc: that doesn't matter
[20:00:00] kormoc: http://swik.net/kormoc
[20:01:00] kormoc: http://swik.net/this_does_not_exist
[20:01:00] kormoc: http://swik.net/boogaboogabooga
[20:01:00] kormoc: it's how wikis work
[20:01:00] Juski: I didn't know that
[20:01:00] sphing: lol
[20:01:00] Juski: like blogging, one of the things I've chosen to ignore
[20:02:00] kormoc: and anyone can add pages and write anything to them, it's just designed to be that way.
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[20:03:00] Juski: I suppose that's kind of cool
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[20:09:00] poop: This bttv card looks all bled out
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[20:19:00] poonj: hey guys
[20:19:00] poonj: I have mythtv compiled and installe
[20:19:00] poonj: however, I'm having trouble accessing the database
[20:19:00] poonj: I imported the mythconverg table by doing mysql < mc.sql
[20:20:00] poonj: and then I granted myself access to mythtv/mythtv through the mysql interface
[20:20:00] poonj: however, when I start up mythtv-setup
[20:20:00] poonj: I'm geting errors
[20:22:00] poonj: I got it..
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[20:24:00] dagfinnr: when im gonna use the same pc as front and back, do i have to change the ip from 127.0.0.0 then?
[20:25:00] dagfinnr: 005-12–04 21:25:56.211 New DB connection, total: 1
[20:25:00] dagfinnr: No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP.
[20:25:00] dagfinnr: Please run setup on this machine and modify the first page
[20:25:00] dagfinnr: of the general settings.
[20:25:00] dagfinnr: this is the error i get
[20:25:00] Juski: right.. time to be somewhere else.. and no, dagfinnr.. ip can be 127.0.0.1 or its real IP address
[20:25:00] Juski: not 127.0.0.0.. it's 127.0.0.1
[20:25:00] rage-: or localhost
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[20:26:00] mace_: is there any documentation which explains the significance of the channum field in the channel table?
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[20:26:00] fir3st0rm: hi
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[20:26:00] fir3st0rm: when i enter livetv it displays the standard channel without an epg
[20:26:00] rage-: mace, I *think* the only purpose for it is for the number in the guide/etc.
[20:27:00] dagfinnr: rage-, : yeah.. i didnt change any of the settings in the general section in mythtv-setup..althoug i got the error i posted. what is wrong?
[20:27:00] rage-: mace, I've changed some channels around on mine, and have found no ill effects yet
[20:27:00] fir3st0rm: i can't switch channel or anything else
[20:27:00] mace: rage-: so dupes in there shouldn't be a problem then?
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[20:28:00] rage-: hmm, duplicates of the channum field....... I don't think so... it'd probably pick the one that comes first in the table when tuning... and that's it
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[20:28:00] rage-: I think it should be ok
[20:28:00] mace: rage-: ah, so they do matter.. :)
[20:28:00] rage-: this is merely speculation on my part though mace, I'm no expert ;)
[20:28:00] GCarrier_: i'd prefer some gtk interface to view, record, timeshift, etc. dvb streams but in gtk+ or something adapted to a computer screen...
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[20:28:00] GCarrier_: not a TV screen...
[20:28:00] GCarrier_: i know it's not really the place ;)
[20:28:00] mace: rage-: that'd explain why stuff gets recorded from the wrong channel sometimes
[20:28:00] GCarrier_: but does that exist ? :D
[20:28:00] rage-: mace, aye
[20:28:00] rage-: mace, you can manually change them around
[20:28:00] fir3st0rm: can you help me? :/
[20:29:00] mace: rage-: just in that table or do i need to fixup other tables?
[20:29:00] dagfinnr: rage-, : you have an idea of what could be wrong here?
[20:29:00] rage-: dagfinnr, check the general settings and ensure that it's looking to either 127.0.0.1 (notice the 1), localhost, or the real IP of the machine
[20:29:00] rage-: mace, just in the channel table
[20:30:00] mace: rage-: ta
[20:30:00] rage-: I think your guide table should be ok as long as its only the channum field that's duplicated
[20:31:00] dagfinnr: rage-, seemed like it didnt like the 127.0.0.1 but liked the localhost..so...this seem to be working better
[20:32:00] rage-: dagfinnr, good good
[20:33:00] dagfinnr: yep
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[20:34:00] dagfinnr: when i start the backend, is it supposed to run in the terminal without "terminating" ..ie kepping a terminal window for its own?
[20:35:00] rage-: if you just run "mythbackend" in a terminal, then it will keep the terminal window open and show some logs of what the program is doing, yeah
[20:35:00] rage-: if you want to start it from a terminal and later on close the window
[20:35:00] rage-: you can start it by typing out: mythbackend &
[20:35:00] rage-: then type exit
[20:36:00] fir3st0rm: when i enter livetv it displays the standard channel without an epg
[20:36:00] fir3st0rm: i can't switch channel or anything else
[20:36:00] dagfinnr: ok
[20:36:00] mace: mythphone question – the camera i have outputs raw jpeg frames to userspace, any ideas whether that's supposed to be supported, and if not, whether it's feasible?
[20:36:00] dagfinnr: seems like its working then..got some errors..but it could not be perfect the first time :P
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[20:40:00] poonj: hey ugys
[20:40:00] poonj: how can I make it so that mythth looks to /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt for database access?
[20:40:00] poonj: right now its looking at the person's home directory ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[20:40:00] mace: symlink the two is probably the quickest way :)
[20:41:00] fir3st0rm: yeah
[20:43:00] eiggirC: why doesn't myth maks use of the mouse?
[20:43:00] mace: eiggirC: it's designed to work with remote controls
[20:45:00] eiggirC: mace: fair enough – but I don't have a remote control.
[20:45:00] mace: eiggirC: you can still use a mouse – there's an option somewhere to not hide the mouse cursor
[20:46:00] eiggirC: yeah – but it does nothing... you can't click with it :-)
[20:46:00] mace: yeah under Settings -> Appearance
[20:46:00] mace: well i've used a mouse with the cursor hidden just fine, you just have to guess where to click
[20:47:00] mace: so if clicks aren't working, then something else is broken
[20:47:00] _nero_: damn.. talk about "slow" service.. FedEx ground. Shipped out of Keasbey NJ on Thursday. Scheduled arrival in Princeton NJ is Tuesday.. Total distance, 35 miles, and 6 days of travel..
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[20:48:00] eiggirC: _nero_: any delivery to here takes 2–6 months if its ground delivery. So think yourself lucky
[20:48:00] eiggirC: -grin-
[20:49:00] _nero_: eiggirC, where is "here"?
[20:49:00] bprice20: does anyone know where I can get debian packages for mythtv
[20:49:00] bprice20: http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/ used to have em but not anymore
[20:49:00] _nero_: I mean I know it is a major PITA to cross east west through NJ.. but this is just bad..
[20:50:00] eiggirC: nero: new zealadn
[20:50:00] eiggirC: zealand
[20:50:00] bprice20: I am willing I'm willing to compile and make packages as soon as I can figure out what package qmake comes with and get it installed
[20:51:00] _nero_: eiggirC, would said package take 2 months if it was coming from just down the road?
[20:52:00] eiggirC: nero: no true
[20:56:00] Dibblah: Hmmm... I've been through the documentation and can't find a minimum version of mysql listed. Is there one?
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[20:57:00] Dibblah: Ah. 3 is still supported. Bugger.
[21:01:00] poonj: okay..
[21:01:00] poonj: aer there different packages I need to compile mythplugins?
[21:01:00] bprice20: anyone?
[21:01:00] poonj: I'm getting compile errors for that as well
[21:02:00] bprice20: debian mythtv packages?
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[21:17:00] eiggirC: my channel settings are all wrong
[21:17:00] eiggirC: TV3 is on number 2 and so on
[21:18:00] eiggirC: thats fixed in mythtv-setup under Video Sources? or Channel Editor?
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[21:20:00] eiggirC: under 5. Channel Editor I cannot choose "scan for channels" Why is that?
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[21:20:00] [311]: hey, when setting up knoppmyth, it prompted for my mythtv password, and ofcourse on the verify i typed it in wrong so the two didn't match. well, it didn't promt for it again. now I can't login via myth web. and idea how to set that password now?
[21:20:00] GreyFoxx: what kind of capture card ?
[21:20:00] GreyFoxx: and I assume you are picking a video source
[21:21:00] eiggirC: GreyFoxx: me? mine's a PVR-150MCE
[21:21:00] eiggirC: yes, I have an EPG that works and shows data in the program guide
[21:21:00] GreyFoxx: That's what not what I meant, I meant in the channel editor are you picking a video source before trying to scan
[21:21:00] eiggirC: I think so – will try
[21:22:00] GreyFoxx: But I think scan channel only really applies to DVB users. Not sure if it applies or does anything for other cards
[21:23:00] [311]: anyone?
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[21:23:00] eiggirC: GreyFoxx: ahhh thanks. I've got "QMYSQLResult::data: column 3 out of range
[21:23:00] eiggirC: in the xterm
[21:23:00] eiggirC: lots and lots of those
[21:24:00] GreyFoxx: [311]: Not being a knoppmyth user I can only give a generic answer. find the htpasswd file and change the password, if that is the login you mean
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[21:25:00] Mobleman: Are you going to have a X service to install mythtv?
[21:25:00] eiggirC: I'm sorely tempted to blow away the debian myth packages and do them from source
[21:25:00] eiggirC: Mobleman: yeah – you need X to run the backend and setup programs
[21:25:00] eiggirC: you could get away with a xbase install and no running X on the backend
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[21:25:00] eiggirC: but you;d need one somewhere
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[21:26:00] [311]: ohhh, got it now. didn't realize it is basicauth to start
[21:26:00] [311]: doh!
[21:27:00] Mobleman: Okay... but when I installed Gnome on my Debian and tried to install MythTV through APT... i got a error and it didn't install because of a missing liblame0
[21:27:00] [311]: thought it used htaccess
[21:27:00] cout_: what is SIP?
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[21:28:00] GreyFoxx: [311]: htaccess is the file to configure stuff access info, and it points to an htpasswd file that contains the encrypted passwords+usernames
[21:28:00] GreyFoxx: cout_: A VOIP protocol
[21:29:00] cout_: thanks. I guess I don't need that.
[21:29:00] [311]: yeah, i mean, to change it i had to, htpasswd -c /etc/apache/basicauth user
[21:29:00] [311]: instead of htpasswd -c /etc/apache/htaccess user
[21:30:00] Mobleman: Does anyone know anything about liblame?
[21:30:00] GreyFoxx: the filename is irrelevant, it's defined in the htaccess file. IT could be any name you like
[21:30:00] [311]: oh okay,
[21:30:00] GreyFoxx: Mobleman: Install the lame libraries
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[21:31:00] Mobleman: Okay... but when I tried to on my debian (w/ gnome) it couldn't download it through apt
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[21:36:00] poonj: okay
[21:36:00] poonj: this is pretty frustrating
[21:36:00] poonj: http://pastebin.com/447632
[21:36:00] poonj: I get hat while trying to compile mythgallery
[21:37:00] poonj: I have the libraries for libexif-dev
[21:38:00] cout_: sounds like a mismatch between the mythgallery version and the libexif version
[21:39:00] cout_: you could try passing in the missing parameters
[21:39:00] poonj: passing missing parameters?
[21:39:00] poonj: which file do I look at?
[21:40:00] cout_: exif-entry.h
[21:41:00] poonj: what do I put?!
[21:42:00] cout_: what's there?
[21:42:00] cout_: (on line 61)
[21:42:00] poonj: const char *exif_entry_get_value (ExifEntry *entry, char *val, unsigned int maxlen);
[21:43:00] poonj: which arguement is used?
[21:43:00] poonj: which isn't
[21:43:00] cout_: oops, I meant galleryutil.cpp:65
[21:43:00] eiggirC: Mobleman: you need to add an apt source to your sources.list file
[21:44:00] eiggirC: Mobleman: debian cannot package lame cos its got strange licence issues
[21:44:00] eiggirC: Mobleman: add these to /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:44:00] eiggirC: deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv
[21:44:00] eiggirC: deb http://cedar-solutions.com/ftp/debian unstable main
[21:44:00] eiggirC: deb http://apt-proxy:9999/mythtv unstable main mythtv lame
[21:44:00] poonj: QString value = exif_entry_get_value(entry);
[21:44:00] mishehu: woah damn, learned something new and useful today
[21:45:00] mishehu: if you are building xvid on x86_64, make sure you got yasm installed first
[21:45:00] mishehu: otherwise, kiss mmx/3dnow/sse type of opts byebye
[21:46:00] eiggirC: Mobleman: whoops – strike that
[21:46:00] poonj: umm
[21:46:00] poonj: okay
[21:46:00] poonj: I entered some values
[21:46:00] poonj: its going now
[21:47:00] eiggirC: Mobleman: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/163269
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[21:50:00] Mobleman: eiggirC: I can't use the last line...? Can I?
[21:51:00] Mobleman: Woops.. the second last one...
[21:51:00] cout_: poonj: I think it should be: char buf[1024]; Qstring value = exif_entry_get_value(entry, buf, sizeof(buf));
[21:52:00] cout_: never used libexif so I'm not sure
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[21:59:00] Mobleman: Could not load http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists . . . /Packages.gz 404 Not Found
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[22:02:00] poonj: cout_, where did you get that?
[22:03:00] shodan: anyone has alternative suggestion for mythvideo (something standalone and more featureful maybe, mythvideo is kinda dry and sluggish with 4000 entries)
[22:04:00] bfree: Mobleman: you can get liblame from nerim/marillat ... http://debian.video.free.fr/
[22:04:00] Mobleman: anyone who know a apt-mirror with the mythtv packages on?
[22:04:00] poonj: mobileman
[22:05:00] poonj: one sec
[22:05:00] poonj: deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists . . . binary-i386/ ./
[22:05:00] poonj: deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists . . . v.old/source ./
[22:08:00] xris: Mobleman: redhat, fedora, debian or ubuntu?
[22:08:00] Mobleman: debian
[22:09:00] Mobleman: I get the same error...
[22:10:00] Mobleman: when I try to install through apt...
[22:12:00] Mobleman: I aren't really good at configuring and compiling apps..
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[22:15:00] Mobleman: Isn't there any debian users who has got mythtv to work?
[22:16:00] fir3st0rm: i've got a problem with recording tv shows
[22:16:00] poonj: hey guys
[22:16:00] poonj: for some reason
[22:16:00] poonj: when I am in the watch videos menu
[22:16:00] poonj: nothing shows up
[22:16:00] poonj: this is weird...
[22:17:00] fir3st0rm: when i record a show the movies are drawn black and white
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[22:17:00] fir3st0rm: how can i fix this?
[22:17:00] poonj: okay
[22:17:00] poonj: its a go now
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[22:18:00] fir3st0rm: when i watch livetv it's ok
[22:19:00] Mobleman: I'm giving up... it's 11.15 pm!! and I wan't to do some PHP coding... cheers
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[22:38:00] fir3st0rm: everytime i start recording tv screen turns black and white
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[22:44:00] cosmo_: 2
[22:45:00] fir3st0rm: ?
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[22:56:00] thechris: is zap2it blocking mythtv users now?
[22:57:00] thechris: i can log into the website, but my server cannot recieve new listings
[22:57:00] thechris: what can i do?
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[23:09:00] Exiles[m]: Gar!!!! I need someone with tv out experiance using nvidia cards
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[23:25:00] cwsmith: i use tv out with nvida
[23:25:00] cwsmith: vidia*
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[23:26:00] poonj: heyt
[23:26:00] poonj: anyone here get lircmd to work?
[23:26:00] poonj: for me, the mouse pointer doesn't move!
[23:26:00] poonj: I have connectivity with the remote, as verified though irw and lircd
[23:27:00] simcop2387: poonj: sounds like the Xserver doesn't know to use it
[23:27:00] poonj: Xserver also detected the device as a mouse
[23:27:00] simcop2387: how you do that i dunno
[23:27:00] poonj: ummm
[23:27:00] simcop2387: does it know to use it
[23:27:00] poonj: know how to use it?1
[23:27:00] poonj: isnt' that determined through the zmappings and such?
[23:27:00] simcop2387: e.g. has the config been told to use the "mouse"
[23:27:00] poonj: yes
[23:27:00] poonj: simcop, the logs show that its detected as a mouse
[23:28:00] poonj: no complaints there..
[23:28:00] simcop2387: then i dunno is your lircrc set to sends the buttons to it?
[23:28:00] poonj: I have to config lircrc to use lircmd?
[23:28:00] poonj: thats the thing I'm very confused about with lirc
[23:28:00] simcop2387: i think so let me go look that up
[23:28:00] poonj: the docs aren't very straight forward
[23:29:00] simcop2387: hmm so you don't have to
[23:30:00] poonj: yeah..
[23:30:00] poonj: supposedly, all I have to do is set it up in xf86config
[23:30:00] simcop2387: have you created the /etc/lircmd.conf and started lircmd?
[23:30:00] poonj: in the file, and have the module loaded
[23:30:00] poonj: yeah
[23:31:00] poonj: the problem is
[23:31:00] poonj: I am not sure if the file is correct..
[23:31:00] poonj: I tried many different files
[23:31:00] simcop2387: have you hit the activate button yet?
[23:31:00] poonj: as in I edited it and such, but then they all don't work
[23:31:00] poonj: activate?
[23:31:00] simcop2387: lircmd needs a button that puts you in mouse mode
[23:32:00] simcop2387: http://www.lirc.org/html/configure.html
[23:32:00] simcop2387: check out the lircmd.conf config file format
[23:34:00] poonj: OKAY
[23:34:00] poonj: THAT WAS the problem
[23:34:00] poonj: the active
[23:34:00] poonj: activate
[23:34:00] poonj: THANKS!
[23:34:00] simcop2387: cool
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[23:35:00] daniel_bergamini: re all
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[23:36:00] simcop2387: yo
[23:37:00] poonj: okay
[23:37:00] poonj: another problem...after compiling and installing myth
[23:37:00] poonj: when I try to run mythtv-setup and mythfrontend
[23:38:00] poonj: I'm getting seg faults
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[23:38:00] simcop2387: hmm
[23:38:00] simcop2387: poonj: know how to run them in gdb?
[23:38:00] poonj: gdb?
[23:38:00] poonj: could it be the compiler?
[23:38:00] poonj: I just realized that I'm using gcc-3.3
[23:38:00] poonj: I need 3.4 right?
[23:39:00] daniel_bergamini: anyone know of a howto for running mythtv on a slug (nslu2) with openslug and usb tv pcr? http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/InstallWinTVPVRUSB2
[23:39:00] gratuit: I'm having problems with the mythmusic plugin, I'm using ubuntu, Whenever I select the Scan for new music item, nothing happens, is there any other way to add music to the playlist, or any ideas on why it might not work?
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[23:39:00] gratuit: how does it do the scanning?
[23:41:00] simcop2387: poonj: not sure
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[23:41:00] simcop2387: poonj: run it like this, gdb /usr/bin/mythsetup (or wherever its installed), then when you get the gdb prompt type 'run'
[23:41:00] poonj: I'll do that after this compile run
[23:42:00] poonj: I think that is the problem..
[23:42:00] simcop2387: i don't know if there is a significant difference in gcc-3.3 and 3.4 for mythtv
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[23:43:00] poonj: I'm doing the compile on two computers..
[23:43:00] poonj: on one it works great
[23:43:00] poonj: on the other I get seg faults
[23:43:00] poonj: the only difference I see is that gcc was 3.4 on one and 3.3 on the other..
[23:43:00] poonj: and it was a dependency to get 3.4..
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[23:52:00] simcop2387: hmm
[23:52:00] daniel_bergamini: how about booting a diskless front and backend via pxe?
[23:52:00] simcop2387: dunno if you'd want to do a backend like that but i'd imagine you can
[23:53:00] gratuit: is there a need to setup a music directory to use myth music?
[23:53:00] gratuit: and if so where is it documented?
[23:54:00] daniel_bergamini: want to power up a nslu2 that has the only disk full time and maybe network boot a something to play and turn it off but the nslu2 and only disk will be on for other stuff
[23:54:00] daniel_bergamini: don't want to run a full pc all the time
[23:56:00] daniel_bergamini: maybe a via
[23:56:00] daniel_bergamini: would any of those "media center extender" devices work?

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