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| [00:09:00] | ccase: | Orfeous, i had probelms with dst.c compiling on the latest cvs v4l2 drivers, dunno if it's related |
| [00:10:00] | Orfeous: | ccase: what card? |
| [00:10:00] | Orfeous: | what kernel? |
| [00:11:00] | ccase: | i'm using a 2.6.14 kernel, and i have a dvico fusionhdtv5 gold card, I didn't need the dst drivers, so I commented them out of the makefile...but it probably means they are working on it |
| [00:13:00] | ccase: | dst is needed for the bt8xx driver |
| [00:13:00] | Orfeous: | yes.. |
| [00:14:00] | Orfeous: | we cant figure out whats wrong with my drivers or settings becuase it works very good in windows. |
| [00:14:00] | Orfeous: | but i dont wanna run windows and watch tv :P |
| [00:14:00] | ccase: | i hear ya |
| [00:15:00] | Orfeous: | so all suggestions are welcome :D |
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| [00:19:00] | Agrajag-: | Orfeous: have you emailed the dvb people? |
| [00:20:00] | Agrajag-: | it definately looks like some driver related problem |
| [00:23:00] | Orfeous: | yes, but why is it working for you for example? |
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| [00:23:00] | fatmatt: | ccase: have yoyu tried a different kernel? 2.6.13 maybe? |
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| [00:24:00] | Agrajag-: | Orfeous: i dont konw. sounds like your card is slightly different or something |
| [00:24:00] | Jeff3: | hello room. I'm having a problem with my transcoded recorded programs. I can never fast forward or rewind them. |
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| [00:26:00] | Orfeous: | Agrajag-: i have a red ciricout (not good spelled) board.. |
| [00:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | twinhan 1020g ? |
| [00:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | (maybe without the g) |
| [00:29:00] | Orfeous: | GreyFoxx: asked me? |
| [00:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [00:29:00] | Orfeous: | Agrajag-: i have not sent a mail to dvb-people.. dont know any address |
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| [00:30:00] | Orfeous: | GreyFoxx: TwinhanDTV Ter-CI Split |
| [00:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [00:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have a Twinhan VP 1020 DVB-S card which uses dvb_bt8xx+dst drivers as well |
| [00:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | was just curious if you had the same card |
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| [00:31:00] | frox: | anyone in here use mencoder to encode the mpg files mythtv records? |
| [00:31:00] | frox: | i'm looking for some reccomendations on codeces and options |
| [00:33:00] | kormoc: | frox, nuvexport was written to export myth recordings, have you tried it? |
| [00:33:00] | frox: | yeah, doesn't seem to work well.. just seems to sit at o% |
| [00:33:00] | frox: | i mean 0% |
| [00:33:00] | frox: | at least nuvexport-divx anyhow |
| [00:34:00] | frox: | i havn't tried others, can you change the bitrate settings, audio encoder, etc.??/ |
| [00:35:00] | Orfeous: | GreyFoxx: not the same card :P |
| [00:35:00] | frox: | yeah, nuvexport just seems to sit at 0% |
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| [00:39:00] | Jeff3: | well I'm having a problem with my recorded programs that have been transcoded. I can't fast forward or rewind them. I'm pretty new to mythtv – is this normal? How can I fix this? any ideas? |
| [00:41:00] | Orfeous: | damn |
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| [00:53:00] | ilusr1: | anyone get pvr-350 tvout working well with ivtv 0.4 drivers? |
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| [01:03:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: I upgraded on Friday (ivitv 0.4.0 + kernel 2.6.14). Had kernel oops on Saturday during "exit" from watching show. First time in a year. Downgraded to ivtv 0.2.0 + kernel 2.6.13, and all is well again. |
| [01:04:00] | Orfeous: | Agrajag-: sending a mail to mailinglist now.. |
| [01:05:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: No real compelling reasons to go with 0.4.0 for me. VBI still didn't work in Myth 0.18.1 (dunno who is at fault), and everything worked previously, so... |
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| [01:10:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: Things might be different in SVN, tho. |
| [01:11:00] | Orfeous: | i think im going to sleep i get no further now :( |
| [01:11:00] | Ryushin: | Well, I upgraded to ivtv 4.0, 2.6.14 and SVN and everything was happy until my MB bit it. |
| [01:11:00] | Orfeous: | good night and sleep well! |
| [01:12:00] | NightMonkey: | Ryushin: Gah! I'm sorry. :( |
| [01:12:00] | Ryushin: | Me too. Had to send the motherboard in for rma. Now I'm without for a week or so. I'm going through withdrawel without my HD. :) |
| [01:13:00] | NightMonkey: | Ryushin: How long were you running that driver/kernel combo? And which ivtv card? |
| [01:14:00] | Ryushin: | Probably for about a week. PVR-350 card. |
| [01:15:00] | Ryushin: | I saw in SVN in the last week they got channel chaning to happen about three times faster. Should be good to test once I'm sure they have Live TV fixed. Should be any day now. Though Greyfoxx says is working fine for hime. |
| [01:15:00] | NightMonkey: | Ryushin: I'm wondering if my testing of VBI might have triggered the OOOPSes. |
| [01:16:00] | Ryushin: | I'm sorry, what is VBI? It's been a really long day. I was up at 3:30 am and now it's 6:15 pm and I'm still at work. Go figure. |
| [01:16:00] | NightMonkey: | Ryushin: I'm afraid to get on the SVN crackpipe – I like "releases". ;) |
| [01:17:00] | Ryushin: | Checkinstall is your friend. |
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| [01:17:00] | Ryushin: | There has been SO many improvements to DVB I had to move. |
| [01:17:00] | NightMonkey: | Ryushin: No problem! VBI is "extra data" in the broadcast stream – for closed captioning/teletext data. |
| [01:17:00] | NightMonkey: | (acronym meaning escapes me right now) |
| [01:17:00] | Ryushin: | Oh yea. sorry, I haven't used that at all. It's something I still need to test. |
| [01:18:00] | Ryushin: | What disto are you running myth on right now? |
| [01:18:00] | NightMonkey: | I'm not deaf, so I don't need it for that, but I am interested in trying my hand at making some "searching" scripts – it could be cool to parse CC to auto-record based on topic discussed, for news stuffs, at least. |
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| [01:19:00] | NightMonkey: | Ryushin: Gentoo. |
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| [01:19:00] | Ryushin: | Then you should be a old hand at compiling packages. :) |
| [01:19:00] | Ryushin: | Is there such thing as checkinstall for gentoo? |
| [01:20:00] | NightMonkey: | Or, something like "record any show that even mentions David Lynch". |
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| [01:20:00] | NightMonkey: | Ryushin: Oh, I am. But, I like broad community testing, too. ;) |
| [01:20:00] | kormoc: | Ryushin, there is, if the ebuild has it enabled |
| [01:21:00] | Ryushin: | I would almost say there are as many svn users are there are release users. |
| [01:21:00] | ilusr1: | thanks nightmonkey, so you'd recommend ivtv 0.2.0? |
| [01:21:00] | Ryushin: | I don't know. ivtv 4.0 and 2.6.14 has been working fine for me. |
| [01:21:00] | Ryushin: | Ran solid for a week before my motherboard bit it. |
| [01:22:00] | Ryushin: | But I am running SVN, so that is a big difference compared to 18.1. |
| [01:22:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: Yes, it Works for Me(tm). But, 0.4.0+ has compelling reasons for others to want it. |
| [01:22:00] | Ryushin: | Well, time to go home and get the heck out of dodge. Take care all. |
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| [01:23:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: I'm not going to say "never use newer versions", since I'm just being conservative with my television viewing, and just extrapolating from my own experience. |
| [01:24:00] | NightMonkey: | But, for me, ivtv 0.2.0-rc3 + firmware pvr_1.18.21.22168_inf.zip works. |
| [01:26:00] | NightMonkey: | Again, I had been mucking with VBI, which is not necessary for ivtv to do its basic stuffs, so 0.4.0 could work for you fine. |
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| [01:26:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: Sorry to be wishy-washy – just don't want to needlessly step on toes here. :) |
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| [01:32:00] | frox: | anyone know where the auto-transcode after recording settings is kept in the myconverg database? |
| [01:32:00] | frox: | or where i can find a database schema for the mythconverg database? |
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| [01:34:00] | ilusr1: | nightmonkey: no problem. 0.4.0 isn't working well without vbi, either however |
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| [01:34:00] | ilusr1: | the tvout freezing is troublesome – hope it's ivtv and not mythbackend |
| [01:35:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: For me, it was mythfrontend, but it was the ivtv driver that was OOPSing, which seemed to put all ivtv-related processing into a tizzy. |
| [01:36:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: (I run both mythbackend and mythfrontend on the same box, in this case) |
| [01:36:00] | ilusr1: | same here |
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| [01:36:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: What kernel version? |
| [01:36:00] | ilusr1: | 2.6.14–1.1637_FC4smp |
| [01:37:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: I saw some mentions of possible problems with SMP in 0.4.0 on the ivtv-dev mailing list. |
| [01:37:00] | ilusr1: | yeah me too |
| [01:38:00] | ilusr1: | i tried switching to the non-smp kernel at startup but i'm not fedora-savvy enough to get it to work well |
| [01:38:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: When the devs don't have your hardware, regressions can happen. :/ |
| [01:38:00] | ilusr1: | yeah, it's true |
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| [01:39:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: I'm sure it will be worked out – they are responsive to issues. |
| [01:39:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: Meanwhile... |
| [01:39:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: However, I think that 0.2.0 might not work with kernels > 2.6.13 |
| [01:39:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: But, I didn't test that. |
| [01:40:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: I just inferred it, after skimming the changelog. |
| [01:40:00] | ilusr1: | blech |
| [01:40:00] | ilusr1: | i guess i'm stuck with the video card output for the time being |
| [01:40:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: Much of the changes now being integrated into ivtv are with the goal of getting accepted into the mainline kernel, so. |
| [01:40:00] | NightMonkey: | ... |
| [01:41:00] | ilusr1: | i saw the 0.5 changelog – looks like there's going to be a lot of reconfig to do |
| [01:41:00] | ilusr1: | to a given mythtv box, that is |
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| [01:42:00] | ilusr1: | major file changes, move to hotplug etc |
| [01:44:00] | NightMonkey: | ilusr1: Yeah, lots in flux. Flux isn't always good for users – unless it is giving you something that you simply must have. When 0.4.0 was working for me, it was, indeed, a bit faster on transitions, but it didn't bug me much to begin with. |
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| [01:45:00] | ilusr1: | i hear you – i need to figure out how to "yum" a lower version – 0.3.0 should work with my kernel |
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| [02:12:00] | TeleF2k: | grr I have 3 ir recievers plugged in and none work |
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| [02:14:00] | johnny99: | when i change the channel – the info never changes. I can go to menu – and select a channel there – yet the info never changes (and hence – the channel never changes) anyone seen that? |
| [02:15:00] | johnny99: | of course – all chans are 200 and over. |
| [02:17:00] | johnny99: | i'm using a sat – so – the guide shows all the chans, and the ir blaster works fine – i cna change the chan from the command prompt |
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| [02:18:00] | a1fa|64: | hey good people |
| [02:18:00] | johnny99: | hey alfa |
| [02:19:00] | a1fa|64: | in 50 minutes i will be installing the pvr-500 |
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| [02:19:00] | a1fa|64: | waiting for prison break to finish recording |
| [02:20:00] | TeleF2k: | anybody using the IR on an old wintv card? |
| [02:20:00] | a1fa|64: | ivtv unstable version 0.5.0 released (ChangeLog). |
| [02:20:00] | a1fa|64: | nice ;P |
| [02:21:00] | johnny99: | alfa – any idea – why i woulnd't be able to get chan info? it just continues to stay on same channel. |
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| [02:21:00] | a1fa|64: | what do you mean? |
| [02:22:00] | johnny99: | well.... |
| [02:22:00] | johnny99: | when i go into the menu – and go to any channel – it still says the same info – for the old channel. |
| [02:22:00] | tOOm: | does anyone know, why dvb-t radio is blocked by the scan application? |
| [02:22:00] | a1fa|64: | ivtv seriousnly needs to merge with kernel |
| [02:22:00] | johnny99: | like – say i was on prison break and changed to nhl or something – it would continue to say prison break. |
| [02:22:00] | a1fa|64: | what version? |
| [02:22:00] | johnny99: | the only time the info changes is when i record something. |
| [02:23:00] | tOOm: | if I manually tune to a radio frequency I can listen to the radio without a problem |
| [02:23:00] | johnny99: | everything is newest |
| [02:23:00] | a1fa|64: | what version of mythtv? |
| [02:23:00] | johnny99: | 18.1 |
| [02:23:00] | a1fa|64: | i'd say re-run mythfilldatabase |
| [02:23:00] | johnny99: | did same thing for me on last version |
| [02:23:00] | a1fa|64: | something is wrong with your dbase |
| [02:24:00] | johnny99: | ok |
| [02:25:00] | a1fa|64: | i am updating my kernel to 2.6.14 |
| [02:25:00] | a1fa|64: | :P |
| [02:26:00] | johnny99: | worked. |
| [02:26:00] | johnny99: | dammit – that was easy – sorry for the lamewad question |
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| [02:27:00] | ccase: | does mythfilldatabase do anything other than just get guide data? |
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| [02:27:00] | johnny99: | what it was – was restarting the backend. |
| [02:27:00] | johnny99: | and correct ccase |
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| [02:28:00] | ccase: | So, if I don't run it, it's not gonna break stuff, if i'm not using datadirect |
| [02:28:00] | thechris: | is zap2it having issues or something? |
| [02:28:00] | thechris: | it stopped working today for me |
| [02:28:00] | a1fa|64: | johnny99: no problem |
| [02:29:00] | thechris: | also, how can i find out my mythtv settings without X? |
| [02:29:00] | Hal: | thechris: which sort of settings are you looking for? |
| [02:30:00] | thechris: | i'm looking for my zap2it account info |
| [02:30:00] | johnny99: | that's right ccase. |
| [02:30:00] | thechris: | i haven't had to use it since i set up mythtv |
| [02:30:00] | thechris: | and it seems i can't get new listings |
| [02:30:00] | johnny99: | thechris – if you're looking for that – login to ur zap2it account then |
| [02:30:00] | a1fa|64: | thechris: re-enter the password |
| [02:30:00] | thechris: | good one |
| [02:30:00] | thechris: | ok |
| [02:30:00] | a1fa|64: | i think there is a bug with that password screen |
| [02:31:00] | thechris: | so what is my password |
| [02:31:00] | johnny99: | hahaha |
| [02:31:00] | a1fa|64: | i had to retype my password twice |
| [02:31:00] | thechris: | oh |
| [02:31:00] | a1fa|64: | and run mythfilldatabase |
| [02:31:00] | a1fa|64: | again |
| [02:31:00] | thechris: | hmm, still doesn't help me too much, i don't know what i used |
| [02:32:00] | thechris: | how do i find out my username and password form mythtv without X |
| [02:32:00] | thechris: | i know there is no text file for it like normal |
| [02:32:00] | Hal: | thechris: select * from videosource; |
| [02:32:00] | Hal: | through mysql |
| [02:33:00] | a1fa|64: | lol :P |
| [02:33:00] | a1fa|64: | Hal: good one |
| [02:33:00] | a1fa|64: | it seems people forgot to breath without X |
| [02:33:00] | thechris: | mythfilldatabase gives 500 and 401 |
| [02:34:00] | thechris: | how do i open the database again? |
| [02:34:00] | Hal: | Probably: mysql -pmythtv -umythtv mythconverg |
| [02:34:00] | a1fa|64: | 500 is resource not available |
| [02:34:00] | a1fa|64: | 401 is forbiden |
| [02:34:00] | a1fa|64: | re-run it again |
| [02:34:00] | a1fa|64: | i hate this password |
| [02:34:00] | thechris: | i've done it about 10 times |
| [02:34:00] | a1fa|64: | re-enter the username/password |
| [02:35:00] | a1fa|64: | i hate this default password |
| [02:35:00] | thechris: | i don't knwo what either is |
| [02:35:00] | a1fa|64: | this needs to be addressed |
| [02:35:00] | a1fa|64: | go to the webiste |
| [02:35:00] | a1fa|64: | and fil-out a form |
| [02:35:00] | thechris: | ok, found out the info |
| [02:36:00] | thechris: | it seems my account expired? |
| [02:36:00] | thechris: | it keeps saying "no user by that name" |
| [02:37:00] | a1fa|64: | lol |
| [02:37:00] | a1fa|64: | re-register |
| [02:37:00] | a1fa|64: | :)) |
| [02:37:00] | a1fa|64: | you must submit a survey tho |
| [02:37:00] | a1fa|64: | once every, what, two months |
| [02:37:00] | a1fa|64: | for your account to be active |
| [02:37:00] | thechris: | it didn't work |
| [02:38:00] | a1fa|64: | lol |
| [02:38:00] | thechris: | how long does it take for my account to be reactivated |
| [02:38:00] | a1fa|64: | instant |
| [02:40:00] | thechris: | ok, then i need some help |
| [02:41:00] | thechris: | oh, sdakljfkjldslkjsadlkjfksad |
| [02:41:00] | thechris: | i hate my computer |
| [02:41:00] | thechris: | it rebooted for some reason |
| [02:41:00] | thechris: | now the timezone is wrong |
| [02:42:00] | thechris: | oh, wait |
| [02:42:00] | thechris: | no, my clock is just wrong |
| [02:42:00] | thechris: | still need help |
| [02:43:00] | a1fa|64: | get your shit |
| [02:43:00] | a1fa|64: | straight man |
| [02:43:00] | a1fa|64: | go back to bios |
| [02:43:00] | a1fa|64: | and set that time |
| [02:43:00] | thechris: | i just use ntp |
| [02:43:00] | thechris: | time in linux never seems to want to stay correct. |
| [02:44:00] | thechris: | hmm. it may just be a zap2it error actually |
| [02:45:00] | thechris: | it seems i have listing for this entire week, except for this specific hour |
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| [02:45:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [02:46:00] | thechris: | seems zap2it has no idea what will be on tv from 10pm to 12am today |
| [02:46:00] | thechris: | odd |
| [02:47:00] | thechris: | every monday and tuesday, it just doens't know whats on tv. |
| [02:47:00] | a1fa|64: | works for me |
| [02:48:00] | a1fa|64: | and i live in a village |
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| [02:49:00] | thechris: | yeah, seems everything was fine except for that. i have no idea what to think. i only wonder what is on at those times |
| [02:50:00] | a1fa|64: | hm |
| [02:50:00] | a1fa|64: | what are you ntping against? |
| [02:50:00] | johnny99: | either ntp is wrong zone – or zap2it acct is wrong zone |
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| [02:51:00] | a1fa|64: | i gotta wait couple of more minutes |
| [02:51:00] | a1fa|64: | so i can swap kernel |
| [02:51:00] | a1fa|64: | and swap cards |
| [02:52:00] | a1fa|64: | i will have to re-compile nvidia kernel :( |
| [02:52:00] | a1fa|64: | 6 more minutes |
| [02:52:00] | a1fa|64: | what firmware do you use for pvr-500? |
| [02:55:00] | johnny99: | sorry can't help ya there a1fa |
| [02:55:00] | johnny99: | 350 here. |
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| [02:56:00] | frenchy: | im getting a black screen when i try to watch tv in mythtv and the command line isnt spitting out any errors |
| [02:57:00] | frenchy: | btw im using the pvr 350 |
| [02:57:00] | a1fa|64: | its the screen saver |
| [02:57:00] | frenchy: | are you talking to me alfa |
| [02:58:00] | a1fa|64: | yes |
| [02:58:00] | a1fa|64: | who else would i be talking |
| [02:58:00] | frenchy: | didnt know if i came in the middle of a conversation |
| [02:58:00] | a1fa|64: | cat /home/mythtv/.xinitrc |
| [02:58:00] | a1fa|64: | /usr/X11R6/bin/xset s noblank & |
| [02:58:00] | a1fa|64: | /usr/X11R6/bin/xset s off & |
| [02:58:00] | a1fa|64: | /usr/X11R6/bin/xset -dpms & |
| [02:58:00] | frenchy: | but if its the screensaver how do i turn it off so i can watch tv |
| [02:58:00] | a1fa|64: | add that to your xinit :P |
| [02:58:00] | frenchy: | ok |
| [02:59:00] | frenchy: | i have never seen anything about this before. why is it like this by default |
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| [03:00:00] | ccase: | anyone ever see this problem when trying to compile lirc: configure: error: *** it is not possible to install the specified driver |
| [03:00:00] | ccase: | on this system |
| [03:00:00] | frenchy: | alfa|64 i have no xinitrc in that directory |
| [03:03:00] | a1fa|64: | what manager r u using? |
| [03:03:00] | frenchy: | fluxbox |
| [03:03:00] | a1fa|64: | ok |
| [03:03:00] | a1fa|64: | put that in |
| [03:03:00] | a1fa|64: | .fluxbox |
| [03:03:00] | frenchy: | ok |
| [03:03:00] | a1fa|64: | ~/.fluxbox |
| [03:04:00] | a1fa|64: | omfg |
| [03:04:00] | a1fa|64: | my box is going to be so fcked up in a minute |
| [03:04:00] | a1fa|64: | hehehe |
| [03:04:00] | a1fa|64: | kernel update+distro update |
| [03:04:00] | a1fa|64: | == nothing will work on boot |
| [03:04:00] | a1fa|64: | thats fine :) |
| [03:04:00] | frenchy: | ok i have a ~/.fluxbox/init |
| [03:05:00] | frenchy: | is that where i should put it? |
| [03:05:00] | a1fa|64: | yeah |
| [03:06:00] | a1fa|64: | note to self.. dont update kernel often |
| [03:10:00] | frenchy: | alfa that didnt work |
| [03:10:00] | frenchy: | i still get a black screen |
| [03:10:00] | a1fa|64: | hm dunno :( |
| [03:10:00] | a1fa|64: | check and see if that was executed |
| [03:11:00] | a1fa|64: | Linux mytivo 2.6.14-2-k7 #1 Mon Nov 14 15:33:15 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| [03:11:00] | a1fa|64: | kewl |
| [03:11:00] | frenchy: | im gonna put it in a script and run it |
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| [03:16:00] | frenchy: | alfa what do i set as the input connection, there a bunch to choose from like composite1–4 tuner0, s-video |
| [03:17:00] | a1fa|64: | tuner0 |
| [03:17:00] | a1fa|64: | ;P |
| [03:18:00] | frenchy: | thats what i thought |
| [03:18:00] | frenchy: | but it still gives the black screen |
| [03:19:00] | a1fa|64: | oh |
| [03:19:00] | a1fa|64: | dude |
| [03:19:00] | a1fa|64: | you didnt get any channels :( |
| [03:19:00] | a1fa|64: | mythfilldatabase |
| [03:19:00] | a1fa|64: | dude |
| [03:20:00] | a1fa|64: | brb |
| [03:20:00] | a1fa|64: | i gotta go put this pvr-500 in there |
| [03:20:00] | a1fa|64: | looks like the people that sold me this pvr-500 messed u |
| [03:21:00] | a1fa|64: | and they will ship an additional pvr-500 ;P |
| [03:21:00] | a1fa|64: | i dont know what to do with two quad input |
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| [03:29:00] | a1fa|64: | xuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk |
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| [03:31:00] | EnterUserName: | hey |
| [03:31:00] | EnterUserName: | xris you around? |
| [03:31:00] | EnterUserName: | yudevnoise is saying -r is an invalid option |
| [03:32:00] | EnterUserName: | for nuvexport.. |
| [03:36:00] | a1fa|64: | OMFG |
| [03:37:00] | a1fa|64: | i am getting errors on lirc |
| [03:37:00] | a1fa|64: | i cant compile lirc |
| [03:38:00] | a1fa|64: | dang it |
| [03:39:00] | a1fa|64: | thanks god ;P |
| [03:39:00] | a1fa|64: | its working |
| [03:40:00] | a1fa|64: | my girlfriend would cut my balls of if it didnt work |
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| [03:40:00] | funkyelf: | What do you guys do when your hard drives on your backend are full and you have another computer on the network? Doesn't myth expect recordings to be in the same directory? So am I limited to the storage I can achieve using only one machine? |
| [03:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | funkyelf: When My disks are full I either, delete, transcode, buymore disk |
| [03:41:00] | funkyelf: | so there are no ways with like nfs or any other kind of software to make it look like a bunch of disks are all one folder? |
| [03:42:00] | rjune: | I use nfs myself |
| [03:42:00] | funkyelf: | ...well, LVM does that, but like disks on different machines? |
| [03:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | funkyelf: Raid, lvm, etc |
| [03:42:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | use an archive script as a user job |
| [03:42:00] | rjune: | my backend is an nfs server |
| [03:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | and no, myth doesn't use multiple directories for recordings |
| [03:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | but you can move stuf finto subdirectories and update the basename entry in the database |
| [03:43:00] | funkyelf: | can you have a 100 gig drive on 3 different machines and have them appear as a 300gig folder in linux? |
| [03:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | funkyelf: No |
| [03:43:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | or just archive and use a link |
| [03:43:00] | funkyelf: | ahh....that works |
| [03:43:00] | rjune: | funkyelf: Uhm, technically I think you can, but I don't think you want to |
| [03:43:00] | funkyelf: | symbolic links |
| [03:43:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | look in the contrib dir at myth_archive_job.pl |
| [03:44:00] | funkyelf: | Captain_Murdoch I don't have a contrib dir...I emerged Myth from gentoo |
| [03:44:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | so look at trac and browse SVN. :) |
| [03:45:00] | funkyelf: | actually....I think I'm gonna go watch the Green Bay game. Thanks for the ideas. Didn't even think to archive and link |
| [03:46:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | a better copy is here: http://www.live.bc2va.org/chris/tmp/myth_archive_job.pl I just haven't updated SVN with it yet. |
| [03:46:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | sory, get rid of the live. http://www.bc2va.org/chris/tmp/myth_archive_job.pl |
| [03:47:00] | frenchy: | can anyone help me im getting what seems to be to the too common black screen but its not spitting out any errors |
| [03:47:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | bit of a hack, I should really use native perl functions instead of shelling out for so much stuff, but it was a hack to show people what User Jobs could do for them mainly. |
| [03:49:00] | a1fa|64: | guys |
| [03:49:00] | a1fa|64: | i had to re-run mythtv setup |
| [03:49:00] | a1fa|64: | what should i chose as my tuner? |
| [03:49:00] | a1fa|64: | Standard V4L ? |
| [03:49:00] | a1fa|64: | or |
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| [03:53:00] | a1fa|64: | awesome |
| [03:53:00] | a1fa|64: | the driver didnt load properly |
| [03:53:00] | a1fa|64: | WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF |
| [03:54:00] | a1fa|64: | FATAL: Module ivtv not found. |
| [03:54:00] | a1fa|64: | javkass |
| [03:55:00] | a1fa|64: | OMFG |
| [04:00:00] | a1fa|64: | omfg |
| [04:00:00] | a1fa|64: | this sutpid bitch installed drivers in a wrong place |
| [04:02:00] | a1fa|64: | ok |
| [04:03:00] | ccase: | you have lirc working with 2.6.14? |
| [04:05:00] | a1fa|64: | yeah |
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| [04:06:00] | a1fa|64: | hardly |
| [04:06:00] | a1fa|64: | ;P |
| [04:08:00] | ccase: | a1fa|64, What version of lirc are you using |
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| [04:20:00] | a1fa|64: | the newest one |
| [04:20:00] | a1fa|64: | that came out |
| [04:20:00] | a1fa|64: | 0.7.2 |
| [04:21:00] | a1fa|64: | i dont have any audio |
| [04:22:00] | a1fa|64: | when i try to watch tv |
| [04:23:00] | a1fa|64: | guys |
| [04:23:00] | a1fa|64: | wtf |
| [04:24:00] | a1fa|64: | help |
| [04:25:00] | a1fa|64: | omfg |
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| [04:30:00] | a1fa|64: | no sound only when i click watch tv |
| [04:30:00] | a1fa|64: | :( |
| [04:30:00] | a1fa|64: | wtffff |
| [04:36:00] | a1fa|64: | GreyFoxx: help dude |
| [04:40:00] | a1fa|64: | 2005-11–21 22:37:42.669 Opening audio device '/dev/dsp'. |
| [04:40:00] | a1fa|64: | 2005-11–21 22:37:42.669 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'. |
| [04:40:00] | a1fa|64: | god damn it |
| [04:40:00] | a1fa|64: | fucking shit |
| [04:42:00] | DarkBeer: | a1fa|64, did you see the topic? |
| [04:42:00] | a1fa|64: | what about it |
| [04:42:00] | DarkBeer: | you obviously missed the "Please don't be a dumbass! Dammit!" part |
| [04:43:00] | a1fa|64: | dude |
| [04:43:00] | a1fa|64: | i've been workin on this for an hour :( |
| [04:43:00] | a1fa|64: | and now no audio |
| [04:43:00] | DarkBeer: | so go read |
| [04:44:00] | EnterUserName: | hey |
| [04:44:00] | EnterUserName: | how do you rename the mpgs |
| [04:44:00] | EnterUserName: | that mythtv uses |
| [04:44:00] | a1fa|64: | dude |
| [04:44:00] | EnterUserName: | instead of using the 1005–2005 file names |
| [04:44:00] | a1fa|64: | i read everything there is |
| [04:45:00] | a1fa|64: | no body addresses |
| [04:45:00] | a1fa|64: | audio |
| [04:45:00] | Hal: | EnterUserName: mythname.pl in contrib may help. |
| [04:45:00] | EnterUserName: | ok thank you hal |
| [04:46:00] | Hal: | EnterUserName: or mythrename.pl |
| [04:46:00] | Hal: | Caveat: not used either of them |
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| [04:48:00] | a1fa|64: | anybody got an idea why i dont have any audio? |
| [04:48:00] | a1fa|64: | watch tv doesnt work.. music works fine |
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| [04:52:00] | chovy_: | hi |
| [04:52:00] | chovy_: | anyone get Earth-to-America? |
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| [04:52:00] | chovy_: | i missed recording it |
| [04:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Never heard of it |
| [04:53:00] | chovy_: | was a comedy show on tbs last night (usa) |
| [04:55:00] | DarkBeer: | chovy_: check torrentspy.com? |
| [04:56:00] | chovy_: | k |
| [04:57:00] | a1fa|64: | omg |
| [04:57:00] | a1fa|64: | anybody have pvr-500? |
| [04:58:00] | chovy_: | DarkBeer: there a gpl torrent app for win32? |
| [04:58:00] | chovy_: | one u can recommend anyway? |
| [04:58:00] | DarkBeer: | Azureus is what I use both for linux and xp |
| [04:59:00] | a1fa|64: | omfg |
| [04:59:00] | a1fa|64: | i just updated the firmware |
| [04:59:00] | a1fa|64: | and i get very choppy sound |
| [04:59:00] | a1fa|64: | lol |
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| [05:02:00] | jasta: | xris: do you like She Wants Revenge? they're playing at the crocodile this saturday and i'm gonna go. |
| [05:02:00] | jasta: | looking to get a group of people going |
| [05:04:00] | a1fa|64: | ok |
| [05:05:00] | a1fa|64: | i need to confirm this |
| [05:09:00] | Agrajag-: | DarkBeer: do not give links like that in this channel! freakin idiot! and chovy_ you shouldn't be asking ... |
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| [05:10:00] | DarkBeer: | Agrajag-, my bad. wasn't aware that was forbidden |
| [05:14:00] | EnterUserName: | xris u there? |
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| [05:18:00] | xris: | EnterUserName: in and out |
| [05:19:00] | EnterUserName: | when is nuvexport its saying a bad parameter -r |
| [05:19:00] | EnterUserName: | yudevnoise |
| [05:19:00] | EnterUserName: | do i haev an older version |
| [05:19:00] | EnterUserName: | or a new version |
| [05:20:00] | xris: | yuvdenoise is too new |
| [05:20:00] | EnterUserName: | are you makign a new version of nuvexport compatible |
| [05:20:00] | xris: | eventually |
| [05:21:00] | xris: | just use --transcode |
| [05:21:00] | jasta: | xris: interested? |
| [05:21:00] | xris: | jasta: never heard of 'em |
| [05:21:00] | EnterUserName: | so nuvexport --transcode? |
| [05:21:00] | xris: | jasta: but can't, anyway. family in town. |
| [05:21:00] | xris: | EnterUserName: yup |
| [05:22:00] | jasta: | xris: http://media.spin.com//features/band_of_the_d . . . hings_hi.mp3 |
| [05:24:00] | xris: | jasta: not really my style |
| [05:24:00] | jasta: | nevermind then :) |
| [05:25:00] | jasta: | have you heard of Rocky Votolato? He's having a CD release party at the croc on Jan 24th too. |
| [05:25:00] | jasta: | im gonna be going to that as well |
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| [05:25:00] | jasta: | http://barsukmusic.blaireau.net/RockyVotolato . . . yPassing.mp3 |
| [05:26:00] | a1fa|64: | fuck |
| [05:28:00] | Agrajag-: | such a way with words a1fa|64 |
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| [05:40:00] | a1fa|64: | dye |
| [05:40:00] | a1fa|64: | i just figured it out |
| [05:40:00] | a1fa|64: | once you find a first bug |
| [05:40:00] | a1fa|64: | they all come storming in |
| [05:40:00] | a1fa|64: | and you get in this loophole of bugs |
| [05:41:00] | NightBird: | thats why you should never look for bugs |
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| [05:50:00] | DCGrendel: | ARGH! |
| [05:50:00] | DCGrendel: | every time i run mythfrontend now it segfaults after loading MythDVD |
| [05:52:00] | DCGrendel: | and i see this on my mythbackend log |
| [05:52:00] | DCGrendel: | AutoExpire: ERROR when trying to autoexpire file: /myth/tv/2715_20051121055239.mpg. File doesn't exist. Database metadata will not be removed. |
| [05:53:00] | DCGrendel: | though the two seem unrelated |
| [05:57:00] | xris: | yeah. not really related |
| [05:57:00] | xris: | mythfrontend -v all |
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| [06:15:00] | DCGrendel: | nothing |
| [06:15:00] | DCGrendel: | same place |
| [06:15:00] | DCGrendel: | same number of messages |
| [06:16:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | are you running SVN? |
| [06:16:00] | DCGrendel: | yea |
| [06:16:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | current? |
| [06:17:00] | DCGrendel: | yep |
| [06:17:00] | DCGrendel: | was working last night when i went to bed |
| [06:17:00] | DCGrendel: | boot this morning and everything started crashing |
| [06:17:00] | DCGrendel: | first half the nvidia drivers were missing |
| [06:17:00] | DCGrendel: | and i had to reinstall them |
| [06:17:00] | Chutt: | so that's not current. |
| [06:17:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | have you done "make clean" whenever the commit logs say you need to (3 times recently that I know of) |
| [06:17:00] | DCGrendel: | i've only just done the one svn checkout |
| [06:17:00] | DCGrendel: | on a fresh ubuntu install |
| [06:20:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | so you're nowhere near current. you should svn update mythtv and mythplugins and make clean each and make && make install mythtv then mythplugins. |
| [06:22:00] | Chutt: | and get a backtrace if it continues to crash. |
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| [06:25:00] | DCGrendel: | and whats XvMC pro? |
| [06:27:00] | Dagmar: | um... pro? |
| [06:28:00] | DCGrendel: | only place i can find reference to is is configure and ppls mythtv compile logs |
| [06:30:00] | DCGrendel: | via unichrome stuff i guess |
| [06:30:00] | Dagmar: | Sounds kinda like marketing fluff. :/ |
| [06:30:00] | DCGrendel: | yea |
| [06:30:00] | DCGrendel: | ah, they have a Unichrome and a Unichrome pro |
| [06:30:00] | DCGrendel: | :P |
| [06:33:00] | DCGrendel: | so for a full week now i've been reinstalling mythtv nightly trying to make it work |
| [06:33:00] | Icemaann: | in mythtv-setup under capture cards, can i use alsa instead of /dev/dsp*? I know I can in mythfrontend |
| [06:33:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [06:33:00] | Chutt: | capture is oss only. |
| [06:33:00] | Icemaann: | k |
| [06:34:00] | Icemaann: | oss emulation is simplex on my system, stupid card |
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| [06:48:00] | simcop2387: | eww OSS |
| [06:49:00] | simcop2387: | Icemaann: yea you can do that provided there is a driver in alsa for the card |
| [06:49:00] | simcop2387: | i'm assuming your using a software encoder then? you should be able to |
| [06:52:00] | Icemaann: | simcop2387: i use alsa for ouput, when mythbackend goes to open /dev/dsp for capture it fails with device is busy |
| [06:53:00] | Icemaann: | because mythbackend uses OSS for capture.... which doesnt work while using the device for playback via alsa |
| [06:54:00] | simcop2387: | yea you should be able to do ALSA:hw0,0 or whatever |
| [06:54:00] | simcop2387: | i've been meaning to putz around with my bttv card and set it up again though i'd rather not have to deal with it, i've got a hardware encoder now |
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| [06:55:00] | Icemaann: | chutt just said capture is OSS only :-\ |
| [06:55:00] | Icemaann: | output in general is already set to ALSA:default |
| [06:55:00] | Icemaann: | and it works |
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| [07:01:00] | DCGrendel: | ok, just svn updated to current |
| [07:01:00] | DCGrendel: | still segfaults on load |
| [07:01:00] | Chutt: | that's what backtraces are for. |
| [07:01:00] | DCGrendel: | and how do i do that? |
| [07:01:00] | Chutt: | docs |
| [07:06:00] | DCGrendel: | ok, well i'm seeing it trace back to clone() in libc6 |
| [07:06:00] | DCGrendel: | and thats as far as it can trace back to |
| [07:06:00] | Chutt: | make sure you follow the docs. |
| [07:07:00] | Chutt: | you generally have to continue past an event. |
| [07:10:00] | simcop2387: | is it? |
| [07:10:00] | simcop2387: | i thought it was alsa capable |
| [07:10:00] | Chutt: | it is not. |
| [07:10:00] | simcop2387: | damn |
| [07:11:00] | simcop2387: | wonder if aoss would work? |
| [07:11:00] | Chutt: | aoss? |
| [07:11:00] | simcop2387: | its a program that forces oss apps to use alsa through the emulation layer |
| [07:11:00] | Chutt: | um. |
| [07:11:00] | Chutt: | the oss emulation layer works fine. |
| [07:12:00] | Chutt: | not sure why on earth you'd need a separate program for that. |
| [07:12:00] | simcop2387: | Chutt: through alsa though, rather than opening /dev/dsp |
| [07:12:00] | Chutt: | why's it necessary? |
| [07:12:00] | simcop2387: | allowing you to run them without the in kernel alsa support |
| [07:12:00] | Chutt: | if the oss emulation modules don't work, that's a bug. |
| [07:12:00] | simcop2387: | Chutt: it doesn't do the same thing as the emulation modules |
| [07:14:00] | simcop2387: | it can be used without them, if you have an app that uses oss you can use it to run the oss app and have it use the alsa devices for output (it wraps all things going to /dev/dsp to the alsa devices and translates in userspace) preventing an app from taking complete control of the audio device |
| [07:14:00] | Chutt: | so, uh, why isn't that just done in the emulation modules? |
| [07:14:00] | kormoc: | aoss was written before the alsa oss emulation module was working correctly |
| [07:14:00] | Chutt: | since that's _kind_ of what they are for. |
| [07:14:00] | simcop2387: | kormoc: AFAIK still oss apps still need exclusive use of the sound car |
| [07:14:00] | simcop2387: | card* |
| [07:15:00] | DCGrendel: | bah |
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| [07:15:00] | kormoc: | simcop2387, yeah, and aoss doesn't help with them (teamspeak 2 for example) |
| [07:15:00] | Chutt: | why would they need exclusive use of the soundcard? |
| [07:15:00] | simcop2387: | Chutt: the way the modules are designed |
| [07:15:00] | Chutt: | i can open /dev/dsp multiple times on my system |
| [07:15:00] | kormoc: | cause they are programmed badly |
| [07:15:00] | Chutt: | not for reading, of course |
| [07:15:00] | simcop2387: | Chutt: i can't do that on mine, second one fails |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | one read, multiple writes. works fine, using the oss emulation modules. |
| [07:16:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, do you have a hardware mixed sound card? |
| [07:16:00] | simcop2387: | what card? |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | kormoc, of course. |
| [07:16:00] | simcop2387: | that'd be why |
| [07:16:00] | kormoc: | ahh, the issue is with non hardware mixed sound cards |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | but newer versions of alsa have dmix turned on automatically, though |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | so i still don't see the issue. |
| [07:16:00] | simcop2387: | dmix doesn't work with the oss emulation |
| [07:16:00] | kormoc: | it doesn't always set itself up correctly |
| [07:16:00] | kormoc: | simcop2387, actually it does |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | that's a _bug_ |
| [07:17:00] | simcop2387: | must be new, in 1.0.8 it didn't |
| [07:17:00] | kormoc: | I had it working quite well on my onboard ac 97 a while ago. |
| [07:18:00] | Icemaann: | it doesnt work with aoss btw, tried a this morning. |
| [07:18:00] | Icemaann: | aoss works for playback not capture |
| [07:18:00] | Chutt: | 1.0.8 is two releases old, btw. |
| [07:18:00] | kormoc: | you need uhh, what's it called... |
| [07:18:00] | Icemaann: | and i have dmix setup and I still cant have more than 1 write to /dev/dsp |
| [07:18:00] | kormoc: | there's a dmix for input plugin as well |
| [07:18:00] | Icemaann: | dsnoop |
| [07:19:00] | kormoc: | Icemaann, then it's not setup correctly. Dmix is very very frequency dependant. |
| [07:19:00] | kormoc: | yeah, dsnoop |
| [07:19:00] | Icemaann: | well... how do I know when its working... no logging that i can see ;-) |
| [07:19:00] | kormoc: | I had to lock my dmix to 44100 htz |
| [07:19:00] | simcop2387: | Chutt: yea i know |
| [07:19:00] | Dagmar: | dmix is the reason I have an SBLive card |
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| [07:19:00] | simcop2387: | kormoc: dmix for input? cool |
| [07:19:00] | kormoc: | Icemaann, when it plays more then one sound at once, it's working :) |
| [07:19:00] | Dagmar: | EaSier to just buy cheap hardware and throw it at the problem |
| [07:19:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
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| [07:20:00] | kormoc: | Dagmar, tho newer sb lives (24 bit ones) are not hardware mixed under linux :/ |
| [07:20:00] | simcop2387: | Dagmar: let me guess cheapo Live 24-bit from best buy/equivilent |
| [07:20:00] | Icemaann: | kormoc: using alsa (aplay) it does, using oss-emu (play) it does not |
| [07:20:00] | kormoc: | Icemaann, it /should/ but again, it might be that play isn't outputting at the correct freqs |
| [07:20:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [07:21:00] | Dagmar: | kormoc: This is why I like the cheap SBLive Value edition. |
| [07:22:00] | Icemaann: | kormoc: ill pastebin my asound.conf, care to take a look? i tried 44100, im trying 48000 now |
| [07:22:00] | Hackel: | I'm having trouble figuring out some sound issues. It seems like mythtv is not enabling the audio on my device for some reason. It works fine in tvtime, and I am able to record it from /dev/dsp while running it, but in mythtv I get nothing. I'm using a cheap AverMedia bt848 card but it has worked in the past. |
| [07:23:00] | simcop2387: | Hackel: i had the same issue with my bttv card, i never solved it before i got my hardware encoder, though i think the problem was that the cards audio was getting muted on channel set/change, it could be fixed by adding a command somewhere though IIRC |
| [07:24:00] | Icemaann: | http://mandrake.us/asound.txt |
| [07:24:00] | Hackel: | I've used this same card with mythtv before, but a long time ago, and don't remember having this issue. I don't know how to control the bt848 mixer. |
| [07:24:00] | simcop2387: | w00t 1.0.10 has support for capture on my card! |
| [07:24:00] | simcop2387: | Dagmar: 1.0.10 has capture support for us |
| [07:25:00] | Dagmar: | huh? |
| [07:25:00] | Dagmar: | 1.0.10 of what? |
| [07:25:00] | Icemaann: | kormoc: hrmm, launched multiple play commands and it still says device busy |
| [07:25:00] | kormoc: | huh |
| [07:25:00] | simcop2387: | Dagmar: alsa |
| [07:25:00] | Icemaann: | i would throw HW at it, but its a pundit-r and the pci slots are all used up |
| [07:25:00] | qfour20: | ok... i'm having some issues getting my myth box set up right. i *know* that this is a distribution specific problem and not truly appropriate to ask here, but i'm not getting a response elsewhere. I'll ask you as general *nix using people |
| [07:25:00] | Dagmar: | simcop2387: Ahhh.... |
| [07:26:00] | Dagmar: | Mine all works with 1.0.9 |
| [07:26:00] | simcop2387: | the CA0106 driver has capture support and seems to have 96khz audio fixed i'm gonna play! |
| [07:26:00] | simcop2387: | Dagmar: even capture? you must have an emu10k1 |
| [07:26:00] | qfour20: | I've found this in reference to my emerge error: "You may have to do a config-kernel --allow-writable=yes for lirc to compile." what does "config-kernel" do? |
| [07:26:00] | qfour20: | the tool has been deprecated in my distro, but i can't seem to find what it does and another tool to do it with |
| [07:27:00] | Dagmar: | simcop2387: Well, yeah but I haven't had any problems since I migrated to the new motherboard and it's realtek sound either |
| [07:27:00] | simcop2387: | Dagmar: ah |
| [07:27:00] | simcop2387: | Dagmar: i got the live24bit when my old trident 4d fried, one week later my onboard card got driver support, i was pissed i've been using the live out of spite |
| [07:28:00] | Icemaann: | kormoc: found out how to test it: aplay -D swmix finished.wav |
| [07:28:00] | Dagmar: | hah |
| [07:28:00] | Icemaann: | sweet |
| [07:28:00] | simcop2387: | alsa it has less noise |
| [07:28:00] | simcop2387: | also* |
| [07:28:00] | Icemaann: | swmix is the name i have in asound.conf |
| [07:28:00] | Dagmar: | I'm just lucky with my hardware picks I guess |
| [07:28:00] | simcop2387: | i hope i can get 96khz audio working it'll be sweet |
| [07:28:00] | Dagmar: | ...but then I usually agonize over every purchase for days in advance |
| [07:29:00] | simcop2387: | Dagmar: alot of cards have alsa support now, in the past year all but the top end ones have gotten drivers it seems like |
| [07:29:00] | simcop2387: | i can't wait for sweet 96k audio if it works finally |
| [07:29:00] | Dagmar: | Enh. I'd still be using OSS if it weren't being phased out |
| [07:29:00] | kormoc: | Icemaann, ahh, you need to make it the default to get the oss layer to use it iirc |
| [07:30:00] | Icemaann: | i did |
| [07:30:00] | kormoc: | huh |
| [07:30:00] | simcop2387: | also the live supports multiple analog speakers which i like |
| [07:30:00] | Hackel: | Can I disable the lirc init? |
| [07:31:00] | simcop2387: | ooooo 96k capture drooollllll |
| [07:31:00] | Dagmar: | I've been playing mp3's through /dev/dsp1 for awhile now |
| [07:31:00] | simcop2387: | do flacs support 96khz audio? |
| [07:31:00] | Dagmar: | I don't see why it wouldn't. It's a general purpose library |
| [07:32:00] | Chutt: | have fun getting 96khz wavs |
| [07:32:00] | Dagmar: | hehe |
| [07:32:00] | simcop2387: | Chutt: card supports them :) gotta find some software that does though |
| [07:33:00] | Dagmar: | Some of you guys would capture in Mhz and claim to hear a difference if the hardware would let you |
| [07:33:00] | simcop2387: | Dagmar: ooooooo 1ghz audio! |
| [07:33:00] | Chutt: | not coming from a pc soundcard |
| [07:34:00] | simcop2387: | at 12ghz you can actually hear the electrons orbit the atom! |
| [07:34:00] | ** simcop2387 is really bored ** | |
| [07:35:00] | Dagmar: | at 12 ghz you could lisen to any number of things that are "protected" by law with a little downsampling |
| [07:35:00] | Dagmar: | ...hence the GNU Radio project to put the power of the emu10k1 to use |
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| [07:36:00] | Dagmar: | You're just a frequency division or two from any number of felonies. ;) |
| [07:37:00] | simcop2387: | how so? |
| [07:38:00] | Dagmar: | You can basically pick a band used by say, the police or cellphones, divide it down to get it to a more useable range, feed it into the sound card, and then do the trunk decoding through the DSp |
| [07:38:00] | simcop2387: | problem is that EM and sound are very different |
| [07:39:00] | Dagmar: | I might be explaining it poorly, but it works. |
| [07:39:00] | simcop2387: | though i bet you could do it with the right kind of antenna |
| [07:39:00] | Dagmar: | The DSP is just a signal processor. It's not particualrly stuck with doing sound only. |
| [07:39:00] | Dagmar: | It's also pretty flexible. |
| [07:39:00] | simcop2387: | yea |
| [07:39:00] | Dagmar: | Try encoding mp3's sometime using Creative's media center |
| [07:40:00] | Dagmar: | It's sick fast because it uses the live card to accllerate the encoding |
| [07:40:00] | Dagmar: | I thought something was wrong when it ripped and encoded a CD of mine in under 4 minutes |
| [07:40:00] | simcop2387: | i can't use Creatives Media Center |
| [07:41:00] | Dagmar: | I can't stand it, personally. |
| [07:41:00] | Dagmar: | But it's neat to show off what that DSP can do |
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| [07:42:00] | simcop2387: | it'd be neat if we could use that for transcoding, i've wondered about learning how to do that with certain graphics cards and try to write an mpeg2 encoder with it |
| [07:43:00] | Netslayer: | is there a way to get nuvexport to export raw avi? |
| [07:44:00] | Dagmar: | AVI isn't "raw" |
| [07:45:00] | Dagmar: | simcop2387: Considering that the Havok engine uses the graphics card to do physics calculations, it's very possible |
| [07:45:00] | Netslayer: | hrm.. trying to figure out the easiest way to get mythtv -> video ipod player compatible avis |
| [07:45:00] | Netslayer: | $ mencoder -ovc raw -ofps 15 -oac pcm -vf scale=220:-2,expand=220:176,format=bgr16 in.avi -o out.avi |
| [07:45:00] | simcop2387: | why ovc=raw? can't the video ipod do divx? |
| [07:46:00] | Netslayer: | this is a regular ipod running linux + video player |
| [07:46:00] | simcop2387: | ah |
| [07:46:00] | Netslayer: | and as of today it can only do raw (working on the codecs) |
| [07:46:00] | Dagmar: | You mean _uncompressed_, right? |
| [07:46:00] | Netslayer: | yes |
| [07:46:00] | Netslayer: | that above command is supplied to convert normal avis |
| [07:47:00] | Netslayer: | doesn't mythtranscode give an output i can pipe into that? |
| [07:54:00] | xris: | Netslayer: the fifos are raw video |
| [07:54:00] | xris: | mythtranscode isn't designed for encoding to outside sources, though. |
| [07:54:00] | xris: | only reason it has the fifos is that I bugged people enough to add them for nuvexport |
| [07:54:00] | Netslayer: | heh |
| [07:55:00] | xris: | you should be able to cat the fifo's into something to encode a raw-video avi, though |
| [07:56:00] | Netslayer: | ya i was thinking that, i'll play around with it later. i'm going to divx now and then to uncompressed for proof of concept :-P |
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| [08:09:00] | Dagmar: | I would think on such a limited-space device that people would be just hot and bothered about compressed video |
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| [08:13:00] | simcop2387: | Netslayer: you ought to play with ffmpeg then its got some nice stuff for low cpu usage compression, modified huff video etc |
| [08:14:00] | Netslayer: | Dagmar, compression is in progress i hear |
| [08:17:00] | simcop2387: | ok time to bork my system again! alsa is done compiling |
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| [08:27:00] | simcop2387: | yep i broke alsa, the new lib is having problems even with aplay! |
| [08:29:00] | simcop2387: | ah there we are esd was causing some probs too |
| [08:32:00] | simcop2387: | solved :) |
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| [08:55:00] | Netslayer: | turns out mencoder reads mythtv files so i can just specify them to encode straight away :-P |
| [09:03:00] | bri: | an imdb script for mythvideo is not included? do i see this correct. anyone knows where i can get a good one? |
| [09:04:00] | bri: | or is it just broken? |
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| [09:10:00] | bri: | in google there are few people saying that it is broken and they had to fix it |
| [09:11:00] | bri: | ok i ll try that |
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| [10:32:00] | juski: | good morning |
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| [11:24:00] | Loeckchen: | hiho |
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| [11:32:00] | Orfeous: | good morning :) |
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| [11:35:00] | Loeckchen: | mmh it's 12:36 pm here ;) |
| [11:35:00] | Loeckchen: | we have GMT+1 here |
| [11:35:00] | Orfeous: | here too |
| [11:36:00] | Orfeous: | mythtv failed to compile this night :( |
| [11:37:00] | Orfeous: | http://pastebin.ca/30270 |
| [11:39:00] | mace: | any mythmusic users about? |
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| [11:48:00] | juski: | mace: I use mythmusic |
| [11:50:00] | juski: | Orfeous: looks like you might be missing libdvb |
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| [11:53:00] | mace: | juski: had any problems with mythmusic hanging between tracks? |
| [11:54:00] | juski: | none that I can recall, mace |
| [11:54:00] | juski: | I'm using 0.18.1 |
| [11:54:00] | mace: | juski: it's most noticable for me when i manually switch tracks before the current track has finished, as the audio loops for around 10 seconds before the track switches |
| [11:54:00] | ** mace is using svn ** | |
| [11:54:00] | juski: | search the mailing list & ticket list, mace |
| [11:54:00] | mace: | tried that, no hits |
| [11:54:00] | juski: | ah |
| [11:54:00] | mace: | very odd |
| [11:55:00] | mace: | i asked on #mythtv the other day but no response about assistance for debugging |
| [11:55:00] | juski: | might be time to post something on the dev mailing list then ;) |
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| [11:59:00] | juski: | mace: from what I understand of how audio in Linux works (which might not be right btw), it could be that mythmusic is no longer using the audio pipe but hasn't un-grabbed it – hence the looping.. the buffer will be played back continually until the pipe gets data again |
| [12:00:00] | Orfeous: | juski: i think i have it installed |
| [12:01:00] | juski: | Orfeous: if you have all the dependencies etc, mythtv should just compile. I said last night there was little point trying to install mythtv until you have your hardware working ;) |
| [12:02:00] | mace: | juski: from my limited stracing, it looked related to that – seemed that myth was possibly closing and reopening /dev/dsp between tracks |
| [12:02:00] | mace: | juski: and the close was taking a long time (probably because something hadn't finalised the pipe properly) |
| [12:04:00] | Orfeous: | juski: libdvb is installed.. what else can it be |
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| [12:08:00] | juski: | ahhh... does it know where the dvb stuff is? That is, when you did --enable-dvb in ./configure did it give you any errors? |
| [12:09:00] | ** juski catches up with some moderating ** | |
| [12:12:00] | Orfeous: | juski: no errors where i can see |
| [12:13:00] | Orfeous: | Warning: DVB location points into kernel (ok if kernel >= 2.6.11) |
| [12:13:00] | Orfeous: | DVB support yes [/usr/src/linux-2.6.13/include] |
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| [12:33:00] | Piet: | hey guys, i would like to know if i can make mythtv write all his data ( recoreded video, dvd etc ) across the network to a fileserver.. |
| [12:36:00] | Orfeous: | what does this mean? |
| [12:36:00] | Orfeous: | edit debian/changelog and increment the version number |
| [12:39:00] | fryfrog: | Piet: of course you can, export the filesystem via NFS |
| [12:39:00] | fryfrog: | mount on backend |
| [12:39:00] | fryfrog: | poof, files being written to "remote" server |
| [12:41:00] | Piet: | okay, cause i read some stuff about the need of DMA on the disks.. thought it could cause bad video.. how fast should my network be? |
| [12:43:00] | juski: | Piet: as fast as possible |
| [12:43:00] | Piet: | im building 1gbps network, setting 4 sata disks in raid0 on the fileserver.. guess this should be fast enough to record mpeg2 – 4 |
| [12:44:00] | juski: | there'd be something wrong if it wasn't fast enough |
| [12:44:00] | juski: | and I'd advise against using raid0 |
| [12:45:00] | Piet: | why.. i know if one drive fails they all go |
| [12:45:00] | juski: | that's why |
| [12:45:00] | Piet: | but its the fastest solution |
| [12:45:00] | juski: | you don't need to RAID disks just for TV usage |
| [12:45:00] | Piet: | and i dont think these drives will fail within 6 months |
| [12:45:00] | juski: | not for speed anyway |
| [12:45:00] | Piet: | disks need to serve data to other computers aswell.. thats why i need the speed |
| [12:45:00] | juski: | even HDTV is only like 15Mb/sec |
| [12:45:00] | Orfeous: | juski: this isnt looking good :) |
| [12:46:00] | juski: | Orfeous: ready to give up & try ubuntu again yet? ;) |
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| [12:47:00] | Piet: | juski im using multiple media players here.. i want them so stream from the server to watch video.. this will take a lot of bandwith |
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| [12:48:00] | juski: | Piet: even 10 HDTV streams will be only 150Mbits/sec plus say 30% for overheads |
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| [12:51:00] | juski: | still, I'm thinking about going gigabit on my home network just so file copying is faster. And I could do with RAID5 or something for extra peace of mind |
| [12:51:00] | Piet: | juski what would you advise me then.. raid5 idd |
| [12:51:00] | Piet: | proc will have to calculate parity when writing to the array |
| [12:51:00] | juski: | right.. let's do some maths |
| [12:52:00] | fryfrog: | Piet: I have a 5x 320G RAID5 array and it uses about 2–3% CPU durijng heavy read/write |
| [12:52:00] | fryfrog: | Piet: you really want to avoid RAID0 on 4 drives, it isn't just a disk failure that could wipe all your data |
| [12:52:00] | fryfrog: | a simple, easy mistake could ruin your shit too |
| [12:52:00] | fryfrog: | yours or your systems :) |
| [12:53:00] | fryfrog: | for some reason, mine lost one of its drives during a kernel upgrade... if it had been raid0, i might have lost all my shit |
| [12:53:00] | Piet: | fryfrog how fast is your proc. |
| [12:53:00] | Piet: | and how many space did you lose.. 5x 320gb did you lose one 320gb for parity? |
| [12:57:00] | juski: | oooo: |
| [12:57:00] | juski: | www.raid.com/04_01_05.html :D |
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| [12:59:00] | Orfeous: | juski: ready to give up soon |
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| [13:00:00] | Piet: | will try this system using raid0.. later when the drives get old i will implement raid5 |
| [13:00:00] | Piet: | fryfrog: did you use hardware or software raid5 |
| [13:01:00] | juski: | I don't see why you're so keen to do it all the hard way Orfeous, but hey – it's your perogative |
| [13:01:00] | juski: | see you all later |
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| [13:04:00] | Faithful: | How do I get myth to control the volume on a soundblaster live when I am running in 5.1? |
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| [13:12:00] | fryfrog: | Piet: I used software raid5, linux kernel. I considered hardware, but an 8 port card is like $300–400 and I could get 2x drives for that price |
| [13:12:00] | fryfrog: | Piet: so I went with a motherboard that had 8 onboard SATA ports, got 5x 320G and 2x 80G |
| [13:13:00] | fryfrog: | RAID1 of the 2x 80G for system and of course the 5x 320G RAID5 for storage space |
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| [13:14:00] | Piet: | yeah that will be my new setup. + the current raid0 array im using now |
| [13:15:00] | Piet: | im wondering where mythtv gets the program list.. where does it find what programs will be up for next week etc |
| [13:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Piet: They are pulled from TV listings websites. In the North America case they are gotten from Zap2it's XML based datadirect service |
| [13:16:00] | Piet: | guess europe also has those sites :) |
| [13:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | Other locations usually use XMLTV grabbers to pull the data |
| [13:16:00] | Piet: | and if my pinnacle card + remote will be supported.. these things are holding me back from using mythtv |
| [13:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes, most places have something |
| [13:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | the pinnacle card is likely just a bttv framegrabber, the remote I don't know but it likely is with lirc |
| [13:17:00] | fryfrog: | As someone how has to deal with *tons* of hard drive failures, i strongly recommend you skip the raid0 |
| [13:17:00] | fryfrog: | you'd be better off just having 4 different drives than raid0 |
| [13:17:00] | Piet: | true |
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| [13:17:00] | Piet: | but then the issue.. i want to write to one single directory |
| [13:17:00] | fryfrog: | i dunno if you are doing it *all* for myth? |
| [13:17:00] | Piet: | not having to look.. hey this hard drive is full i will write some over there |
| [13:17:00] | fryfrog: | in my case, i have it for myth, mp3, etc |
| [13:18:00] | Piet: | nope storing ot her stuff aswell on the arrays |
| [13:18:00] | fryfrog: | well, just remember to back up anything that you consider important to you |
| [13:18:00] | Piet: | my goal was to build raid1 OS raid5 4x300gb mail mp3 etc raid0 4x300gb for video etc |
| [13:18:00] | fryfrog: | ahhhhhhh |
| [13:18:00] | fryfrog: | sounds awsome then :0 |
| [13:18:00] | Piet: | would fit in my case |
| [13:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | You have that many mp3's ? :) |
| [13:19:00] | Piet: | yeah but still its risky |
| [13:19:00] | fryfrog: | krikey, you have room for 10 drives? |
| [13:19:00] | Piet: | yeah.. |
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| [13:19:00] | Piet: | its the chieftec CX series.. room for 8 drives.. and my os disks will be in the floppy drives :) |
| [13:19:00] | fryfrog: | http://fryfrog.com/reviews/chenbro-sr10769/ |
| [13:19:00] | fryfrog: | thats the most awsome case i've *ever* seen |
| [13:20:00] | fryfrog: | 8 drive bays, asomely vented |
| [13:20:00] | Piet: | it rocks idd |
| [13:20:00] | fryfrog: | course, i've only got 7 drives not 10 :) |
| [13:20:00] | fryfrog: | got a link to the case you are using? |
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| [13:21:00] | Piet: | yeah on my laptop.. wondering how i get ht here ;) |
| [13:21:00] | ** GreyFoxx has a rackmount case with 8 external drive bays, 8 removable enclosures and 2 internal drive bays coming for xmas , wooo ** | |
| [13:21:00] | fryfrog: | GreyFoxx: CHRIST! |
| [13:21:00] | Piet: | mail? |
| [13:21:00] | fryfrog: | oh, wait you mean hotswap built in bays? |
| [13:21:00] | fryfrog: | or like 8x usb2 external enclosrures? |
| [13:21:00] | ivor: | GreyFoxx: think of the heat. :) |
| [13:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | fryfrog: No, not hotswap :) and not external enclosures |
| [13:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | ivor: There is a "wall" of fans right behind the drives, heat is NOT an issue |
| [13:22:00] | ivor: | ok. |
| [13:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | plus each of the enclosures has it's own vent and fan |
| [13:22:00] | ivor: | GreyFoxx: think of the noise. :D |
| [13:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | and independant controls |
| [13:22:00] | Piet: | nice community here.. nice hardware :P |
| [13:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | ivor: That's why I have a machine room/area :) |
| [13:22:00] | ivor: | don't we all? |
| [13:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Which has a temp that never goes above 18 celcius even on the hottest day of summer |
| [13:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | average is around 8–12 celcius |
| [13:23:00] | ivor: | heheh. until you turn your new machine on. |
| [13:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's replacing 2 existing file servers :) |
| [13:23:00] | Piet: | fryfrog can i mail u the link.. would be much easier |
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| [13:27:00] | Piet: | did u guys fall asleep? |
| [13:27:00] | laga: | yep |
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| [13:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | zzzzzzzz |
| [13:29:00] | ** laga snorts ** | |
| [13:31:00] | Piet: | fryfrog: http://www.chieftec.de/?page=products_show&am . . . ;language=uk |
| [13:33:00] | ** ivor snores and twitches. ** | |
| [13:33:00] | Piet: | damn he has fallen asleep |
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| [13:45:00] | Piet: | does mythtv have an irc client? or some kind of irc plugin |
| [13:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nmo |
| [13:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | No |
| [13:48:00] | Piet: | damn so i cant chat on my telly? |
| [13:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Of course you can, why you would want to I don't know, I just said that myth doesn't have an irc client and or plugin |
| [13:48:00] | hari_seldon99: | why wuld you want to anyway? |
| [13:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | nothing stops you from running one anyway :) |
| [13:48:00] | hari_seldon99: | true I guess |
| [13:49:00] | Piet: | ;) yup but i guess mythtv runs at fullscreen |
| [13:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | You could add a custom item to your theme to launch an external irc app |
| [13:49:00] | Piet: | so mythtv is a bit ilke kde/gnome |
| [13:49:00] | hari_seldon99: | btw can I access mythtv videos (not recordings) from a remote frontend? |
| [13:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | hari_seldon99: not via the backend. you would haveto mount a network share(samba, nfs, whatever) |
| [13:50:00] | hari_seldon99: | but I can access recordings using the frontend, why not the videos also (I'm using samba now, but ...) |
| [13:50:00] | hari_seldon99: | they're both files, right? |
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| [13:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythbackend has nothing to do with mythvideo or any non recorded content |
| [13:51:00] | hari_seldon99: | but is the distinction between recordings and videos done in code or in database? |
| [13:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | both ? |
| [13:51:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh |
| [13:51:00] | hari_seldon99: | ic |
| [13:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | They are seperate entities |
| [13:51:00] | hari_seldon99: | pity |
| [13:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythvideo is a plugin, not part of the base "mythtv" app |
| [13:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythbackend has no concept of a "video" |
| [13:52:00] | hari_seldon99: | samba it is then |
| [13:53:00] | hari_seldon99: | btw has anybody had any luck getting the newfangled mythtv plugins to work (mythmkmovie, mythmail etc)? |
| [13:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never even seen those :) |
| [13:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | never even heard of "mythmail" before |
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| [13:54:00] | hari_seldon99: | mandriva thac repos have them, but they cause mythfrontend to crash |
| [13:54:00] | hari_seldon99: | http://mythextra.napsi.net/mythMail.html |
| [13:54:00] | fryfrog: | Piet: hey, that is a nice case! |
| [13:56:00] | simon_c: | Hi All. When you add stuff to a playlist in the FE, how do you then play the play list ? |
| [13:57:00] | hari_seldon99: | simon_c: Use arrow keys and enter? |
| [13:57:00] | Piet: | ah good morning fryfrog, yes it is :) |
| [13:57:00] | simon_c: | hari_seldon99: Not sure, I'm relaying the question from my other half at home who can't figure it out. Not infront of the box here |
| [13:59:00] | hari_seldon99: | so you add the music files in the backend server, then can (s)he see them in the frontend |
| [13:59:00] | hari_seldon99: | ? |
| [13:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | hari_seldon99: No |
| [13:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | the backend only streams recordings/livetv |
| [14:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | not photos, not mp3's, not "videos" |
| [14:00:00] | simon_c: | hari_seldon99: This is playlists for recordings. There's an option on the recording menu to "add to playlist" |
| [14:00:00] | hari_seldon99: | simon_c: Yeah, I think u have to do that, then navigate to the previous screen and it plays the playlist automatically |
| [14:01:00] | simon_c: | hari_seldon99: OK. Thanks. |
| [14:01:00] | ** GreyFoxx ponders a "Random play" function in mythvideo. to play the entire contents of a directory in a random order ** | |
| [14:01:00] | hari_seldon99: | GreyFoxx: Sorry, made a mistake, the files have to be in the frontend |
| [14:02:00] | hari_seldon99: | can't play music in the backend server from the frontend (same reason why I can't do it for videos). GreyFoxx is right |
| [14:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | hari_seldon99: Well, reachable by it. They don't have to be on the frontend. As long as it's reachable by nfs/samba it's playable :) |
| [14:02:00] | hari_seldon99: | right |
| [14:02:00] | hari_seldon99: | I'm assuming he doesn;t do anything so foolhardy as use samba over WAN |
| [14:02:00] | hari_seldon99: | bad idea |
| [14:03:00] | hari_seldon99: | okay in LAN, but not WAN |
| [14:04:00] | simon_c: | are you talking on my setup? |
| [14:04:00] | simon_c: | It's only NFS on lan. |
| [14:04:00] | hari_seldon99: | ya, r u running file servers in WAN? |
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| [14:04:00] | simon_c: | no. |
| [14:04:00] | tOOm: | excellent |
| [14:04:00] | hari_seldon99: | good |
| [14:04:00] | tOOm: | PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND |
| [14:04:00] | tOOm: | 14108 tv 25 0 108m 21m 12m R 99.5 3.5 741:11.57 mythbackend |
| [14:04:00] | tOOm: | no jobs running |
| [14:05:00] | hari_seldon99: | if you mount your remote music shares then your frontend will be able to access it |
| [14:05:00] | simon_c: | I can remote into my home network. but due to VNC issues, It's dificult to remote control the front end without it going do-lally |
| [14:05:00] | hari_seldon99: | else no |
| [14:05:00] | simon_c: | my problems are probalby user based :-)I'm talking about TV recording playlists, not MP3 play lists. |
| [14:06:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh, ok |
| [14:06:00] | hari_seldon99: | so what happens when you try to play them? |
| [14:06:00] | simon_c: | I've not even tried to get that to work yet. Playing mp3s is *very* slow when it starts, (probalby due to the stupidly large number of files on the mp3 shre, but still) |
| [14:06:00] | ||
| [14:07:00] | hari_seldon99: | hang on. lemme start up my frontend and see what's the deal with these recording playlists |
| [14:07:00] | Cromz: | GreyFoxx, oh no.. that could be bad a random video function. I mean I have some adult material and I wouldn't want it to show up if I got family over :O |
| [14:07:00] | simon_c: | hari_seldon99: It's probably a user problem. Other half phoned up saying she's added recordings to the play list, but couldn't find out how to play them. |
| [14:07:00] | simon_c: | hari_seldon99: Dont' worry. I'll look again tonight. |
| [14:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cromz: Then you would not have it in the same directory as your other stuff |
| [14:07:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [14:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you do, then you deserve what you get :) |
| [14:08:00] | Cromz: | doh! your so mean.. :> |
| [14:08:00] | simon_c: | hari_seldon99: thanks anyway though. |
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| [14:08:00] | hari_seldon99: | np |
| [14:09:00] | hari_seldon99: | but I just tried the playlist thingie, and I selected my playlists |
| [14:09:00] | hari_seldon99: | and then they turned yellow, but they only play one recording when I press enter |
| [14:10:00] | simon_c: | hari_seldon99: Ahh. So they aren't working correclty. Shame. |
| [14:10:00] | hari_seldon99: | it doesn't move to the next recording in the playlist after finishing one recording |
| [14:10:00] | hari_seldon99: | no, I'm missing something |
| [14:10:00] | simon_c: | hari_seldon99: :-) |
| [14:10:00] | hari_seldon99: | hang on, lemme get back to the frontend |
| [14:14:00] | hari_seldon99: | dang |
| [14:14:00] | hari_seldon99: | can't get the recording playlists to work |
| [14:15:00] | simon_c: | hari_seldon99: My other half will be releived to know it's not just her ;-) |
| [14:15:00] | simon_c: | hari_seldon99: I'll tell her it's a work in progress |
| [14:15:00] | hari_seldon99: | no wait, I'll look in mythtv docs |
| [14:15:00] | simon_c: | :-) |
| [14:16:00] | hari_seldon99: | nope, nothin about no playlists |
| [14:16:00] | hari_seldon99: | odd |
| [14:18:00] | hari_seldon99: | there's no menu entry for 'play current playlist" (at least I can't find it), so either 1. I'm drunk, or 2. Richards et al overlooked that one |
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| [14:20:00] | psofa: | whats the big difference between pvr-150 and 350? the decoder? |
| [14:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | mpeg decoder/tvout, and the 150 is the "next generation" even though there is little different from a consumer perspective |
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| [14:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 250 and 350 came out at basically the same time, the 150 is the 250's replacement |
| [14:23:00] | psofa: | can an athlon 1200 handle it? |
| [14:24:00] | psofa: | the 150 |
| [14:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | certainly |
| [14:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 150 takes 0% CPU to capture |
| [14:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | and that 1200 is more than enough for playback |
| [14:24:00] | simon_c: | question on DVB cards. I've got a nova-t. The tv guide is filling quite nicley automatically, but the info is less than I got with mythfilldatabase. Is there anyway to use mythfilldatabase for some channles, and the online tv guide for others ? |
| [14:24:00] | psofa: | is it known to work ok with linux/mytthtv? |
| [14:24:00] | hari_seldon99: | psofa:350 has tv-out, 150 does not |
| [14:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | hari_seldon99: Does not what ? |
| [14:25:00] | hari_seldon99: | have a tv-out |
| [14:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | psofa: Yes, the 150 works fine |
| [14:25:00] | hari_seldon99: | yes, 150 works well for me with ivtv 0.4 |
| [14:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | hari_seldon99: Ok, I thought you were referring to something else sorry. I didn't read all of what you said :) |
| [14:26:00] | hari_seldon99: | but u have to load the latest firmware from hauppauge's web site to get 150 to work |
| [14:26:00] | hari_seldon99: | http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=Haupp . . . Installation |
| [14:26:00] | hari_seldon99: | http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=Haupp . . . Installation |
| [14:28:00] | psofa: | and whats the difference between the standard and the mce version? |
| [14:28:00] | hari_seldon99: | I think the mce version does not ship with a remote or IR receiver |
| [14:29:00] | hari_seldon99: | mine doesn't have one |
| [14:29:00] | hari_seldon99: | but my 350 does, so that's what I use |
| [14:29:00] | hari_seldon99: | mce actually works better in linux than mce :) |
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| [14:29:00] | psofa: | :D |
| [14:30:00] | psofa: | damn greek bastards! pvr150 mce 200euros |
| [14:30:00] | psofa: | ! |
| [14:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Wow |
| [14:30:00] | psofa: | ffs |
| [14:30:00] | hari_seldon99: | 200 euros? |
| [14:31:00] | hari_seldon99: | that's $234 WTF?!?!?!?! |
| [14:31:00] | psofa: | yes i know |
| [14:31:00] | hari_seldon99: | I got mine from amazon for $60 |
| [14:31:00] | psofa: | yes i can see that! |
| [14:32:00] | psofa: | i need a credit card asap |
| [14:32:00] | psofa: | :D |
| [14:32:00] | hari_seldon99: | whos selling it for $234??? |
| [14:33:00] | psofa: | oh i found a better one |
| [14:33:00] | psofa: | 260 euros |
| [14:33:00] | psofa: | omg |
| [14:33:00] | hari_seldon99: | :O |
| [14:33:00] | psofa: | http://www.bestshop.gr/esales/product.php?pro . . . &page=19 |
| [14:33:00] | psofa: | http://www.chipshop.gr/store/product.php?productid=7642 |
| [14:34:00] | psofa: | have a nice laugh |
| [14:34:00] | hari_seldon99: | tnhieves |
| [14:34:00] | hari_seldon99: | whod buy that anyway? |
| [14:34:00] | psofa: | the victims |
| [14:35:00] | hari_seldon99: | yeah, but most people who but online would see amazon etc first |
| [14:35:00] | hari_seldon99: | buy online |
| [14:36:00] | psofa: | well first they would see the online shops in their country |
| [14:36:00] | hari_seldon99: | doesn't amazon have branches in other countries besides US? |
| [14:36:00] | psofa: | not in greece |
| [14:36:00] | psofa: | dunno about others |
| [14:37:00] | hari_seldon99: | the poms have one for sure, and u can buy it from there and they can ship it to greece, right? |
| [14:37:00] | psofa: | no idea |
| [14:37:00] | psofa: | but i dont feel comfortable with it |
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| [14:37:00] | psofa: | what will i do if it comes b0rked |
| [14:37:00] | psofa: | its gonna be a mess |
| [14:38:00] | hari_seldon99: | can't you interact with another european retailer not in greece? |
| [14:38:00] | hari_seldon99: | I thought it was one big happy family now? |
| [14:38:00] | psofa: | i can |
| [14:38:00] | hari_seldon99: | well, there ya go |
| [14:38:00] | psofa: | but ill have to pay to send the shit back |
| [14:39:00] | psofa: | in case its broken |
| [14:39:00] | hari_seldon99: | you europeans don't have an RMA system? |
| [14:39:00] | psofa: | not that i know of |
| [14:39:00] | hari_seldon99: | yikes! |
| [14:39:00] | psofa: | most probably we dont |
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| [14:43:00] | hari_seldon99: | so much for new-platonists |
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| [14:53:00] | simon_c: | I'm sure we can guy from any other EU country. If the supplier will supply out there. |
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| [15:28:00] | [MUPPETS]Gonzo: | damn, is the website down for you, too? |
| [15:31:00] | stoffel: | nope, works just fine for me |
| [15:31:00] | [MUPPETS]Gonzo: | thanks, now it works again for me, too. |
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| [15:32:00] | [MUPPETS]Gonzo: | main.o: mtd was built without transcode support. It won't do anything. – great :( |
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| [15:57:00] | Orfeous: | hmm.. |
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| [16:18:00] | deigo: | when x is displaying on my tv screen the edges (top bottom left and right, are slightly cut off, is there a way to make it sorta shrink it a little bit? |
| [16:19:00] | deigo: | i believe its overscan/underscan |
| [16:19:00] | laga: | deigo: what graphics card? |
| [16:19:00] | deigo: | pvr350 |
| [16:19:00] | laga: | oh, sorry, dunno about that one |
| [16:19:00] | deigo: | well, how would it work on other cards? |
| [16:19:00] | NightBird: | .. |
| [16:19:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [16:20:00] | laga: | deigo: differently :). but you can use mythtv's internal overscan controls to adjust the picture |
| [16:21:00] | deigo: | the picture in myth is fine, its just x, i use mozilla and gaim and so forth on my tv as well |
| [16:21:00] | deigo: | the scroll bars are lost, as are the x(close) button and the like |
| [16:21:00] | laga: | ok. cant help you with that, sorry. doesnt mean it's impossible, though :) |
| [16:22:00] | laga: | you can define a virtual screen resolution, maybe that helps |
| [16:24:00] | deigo: | rather than the 720x480? |
| [16:25:00] | deigo: | im pretty sure there is a way to have it do it from within xf86config file |
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| [17:58:00] | rsdvd: | Hiya....can someone explain how I set up Myth to auto transcode recordings to MPEG-4 (for smaller files)......I think I must be missing something |
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| [18:17:00] | beavis: | Captain_Murdoch: -v file shows me an "Do not autoexpire" list, is it the reason for not deleting my tiny zapping files? |
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| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | OK, this song sounds better with 2 guitars |
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| [18:28:00] | beavis: | I don't understand the autoexpire method used by the new Livetv |
| [18:29:00] | beavis: | the don't autoexpire list is still getting longer for me |
| [18:29:00] | beavis: | 2005-11–22 19:29:12.223 AutoExpire: Adding Programs to 'Do Not Expire' List |
| [18:29:00] | beavis: | 2005-11–22 19:29:12.227 11 @ Di Nov 22 18:54:18 2005 |
| [18:29:00] | beavis: | 2005-11–22 19:29:12.229 11 @ Di Nov 22 18:53:34 2005 |
| [18:29:00] | beavis: | ... |
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| [18:41:00] | dmz: | howdy y'all. anyone here able to get nuvexport to work? |
| [18:45:00] | dmz: | zzz |
| [18:46:00] | eiggirC: | right – time to go to work |
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| [19:17:00] | bfree: | is there any way to tell a backend that the listings for a frequency are time dependent? i.e. my cable company has one channel on a frequency daytime and another in the evening? |
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| [19:22:00] | beavis: | two different frequencies for the same channel?? |
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| [19:23:00] | otwin: | bfree: can't help you – but if you ever find out, don't forget to tell me |
| [19:24:00] | bfree: | well I'm thinking I could hack at the tv-listings fetcher ... |
| [19:24:00] | bfree: | beavis: if that was for me ... no, two channels on one frequency! |
| [19:25:00] | beavis: | so just create two channels for the same freq |
| [19:25:00] | bfree: | e.g. daytime it's Nickelodeon, night-time it's Paramount Comedy |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [19:25:00] | bfree: | then it could try and schedule to record a program when it isn't on? |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | daytime Nicelodeon, nighttime Playboy? |
| [19:26:00] | bfree: | e.g. try and record an early show of ... Frasier, and end up with ... Barny :-P |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | gack |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | that would suck |
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| [19:27:00] | bfree: | so I need myth to understand what it actually can get |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | sounds like something you'll have to fix in the grabber. |
| [19:28:00] | otwin: | same here – daytime TNT Cartoon Network, evening TMC |
| [19:29:00] | laga: | same here – good thing i dont care about these channels |
| [19:29:00] | otwin: | TMC has sometimes good classic movies |
| [19:29:00] | beavis: | the easiest is just to have two channels for one frequency |
| [19:29:00] | otwin: | laga, anotherone is arte and kika |
| [19:29:00] | laga: | otwin: right. |
| [19:30:00] | laga: | didn't know you were german ;) |
| [19:30:00] | bfree: | two channels on one frequency mightn't work for a repeated show :-( |
| [19:30:00] | otwin: | i am not |
| [19:30:00] | otwin: | luxembourg |
| [19:30:00] | laga: | oh, ok |
| [19:30:00] | laga: | oh, letzeburg ;) |
| [19:30:00] | beavis: | neighbours ;) |
| [19:30:00] | otwin: | good! |
| [19:30:00] | otwin: | :-) |
| [19:30:00] | ** laga checks the spelling on his 2 euro coin from luxembourg ** | |
| [19:30:00] | |rt|: | so how would myth handle a schedule conflict if it wanted to record something on both channels at the same time :) |
| [19:31:00] | laga: | letzebuerg that is |
| [19:31:00] | otwin: | yeah |
| [19:31:00] | otwin: | see, the euro really works ;-) |
| [19:31:00] | laga: | yep, hehe |
| [19:32:00] | beavis: | numismatist?? |
| [19:32:00] | laga: | beavis: crack? |
| [19:32:00] | otwin: | lol |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | heheheh |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | laga: that means one who collects coins |
| [19:33:00] | ** Beirdo is a philatelist ** | |
| [19:33:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i collect them in my wallet, dork |
| [19:33:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [19:33:00] | bfree: | tv_grep may be co-ercable into doing the trick ... if mythfilldatabase can be made to run it at the right time ... |
| [19:33:00] | laga: | you screw postal marks? ;) |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | I collect stamps, silly boy |
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| [19:33:00] | laga: | stamps*, right ;) |
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| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | I have a few multi-million mark ones from pre-WWII Germany |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | and LOTS of East Germany stamps too |
| [19:34:00] | laga: | nice |
| [19:34:00] | flithm: | hey everyone... I'm having a problem with my wintv pvr 150 and mythtv. I get weird garbage at the top of the screen after recording for half an hour or so (but it's pretty random). I can't determine if it's mythtv or ivtv since it never happens while watching live tv. very weird, anyone heard of anything like this before? |
| [19:35:00] | |rt|: | flithm: are you seeing the timecode? |
| [19:35:00] | beavis: | philately is as cool as numismatics :) |
| [19:35:00] | flithm: | i know it's specific to the pvr 150 though because I have another tuner card (ati) and it never gets the problem |
| [19:35:00] | Beirdo: | I remember seeing "DDR" and going "WTF does that mean!?" hhee |
| [19:35:00] | flithm: | |rt|: no timecode usually just garbage, although I have seen that a couple times |
| [19:36:00] | beavis: | ddr=sort of RAM memory :) |
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| [19:36:00] | tristan77x: | hello |
| [19:36:00] | Beirdo: | the German name for East Germany |
| [19:36:00] | |rt|: | well it's a series of bits that move and count looks like random moving boxes |
| [19:36:00] | laga: | beavis: random accessible memory memory? |
| [19:36:00] | |rt|: | what kind of garbage are you seeing? |
| [19:36:00] | Beirdo: | roughly translated: German Democratic Republic |
| [19:36:00] | beavis: | like HIV virus ;) |
| [19:36:00] | laga: | beavis: deutsche demokratische republik ;) |
| [19:36:00] | |rt|: | green mpeg macro blocking? |
| [19:36:00] | Beirdo: | of course... not terribly democratic |
| [19:36:00] | beavis: | laga: thank you! |
| [19:37:00] | laga: | i meant beirdo, dammit |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | ok, not roughly translated... literally translated |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:37:00] | beavis: | so say Beirdo if you mean him ;) |
| [19:37:00] | flithm: | |rt|: this is mostly just garbage, although maybe it's related... it looks like the bottom of the screen is messed up, turned white, and then overlaid on the top 1/5 of the screen and turned mostly white. Also it only appears on every second frame or so |
| [19:37:00] | laga: | beavis: stupid irssi ;) |
| [19:37:00] | flithm: | oops said turned white twice :) |
| [19:38:00] | tristan77x: | i'm playing around with the PiP mode right now but i dont see which of the both PiP windows is right now active. do i miss something? |
| [19:38:00] | beavis: | svn? |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | I should get back to cataloging my stamp collection sometime |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | that would only take me a couple years of 24/7 work |
| [19:38:00] | |rt|: | flithm: hmm....i don't have a 150 so i've never seen it....what version of ivtv are you running? |
| [19:39:00] | laga: | Beirdo: gputranscode first. ;))) |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | let's put it this way, I likely have almost 1M stamps |
| [19:39:00] | laga: | i wonder what the fiancee thinks about that ;) |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | she's fine with it :) |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:40:00] | laga: | oh, a geekess ;) |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [19:40:00] | flithm: | |rt|: yeah it didn't start happening until a couple months ago. It looks like I'm using 0.4.0. |
| [19:40:00] | laga: | ok, i've got to study physics :(. bye. |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | bought 500g of stamps in Vienna for 250 shillings (or was that schillings?) |
| [19:41:00] | laga: | schillings* |
| [19:41:00] | laga: | afk |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | then sold some of the extras for almost half that |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | and still have at least half of them to go through |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:41:00] | flithm: | |rt|: think I should try 0.5.0? |
| [19:42:00] | beavis: | |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | 250 ATS = $25CDN at the time |
| [19:42:00] | beavis: | quite cheap |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | that was in Karlsplatz station |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:42:00] | |rt|: | flithm: well look in the change log for 0.5.0 and see if it mentions anything |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | I wanna go back to Vienna, bring the woman. |
| [19:43:00] | flithm: | |rt|: doesn't seem to say anything |
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| [19:46:00] | |rt|: | yeah was just looking at it myself |
| [19:46:00] | |rt|: | flithm: well it may be worth a shot....no harm in trying |
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| [19:47:00] | flithm: | yeah I suppose eh |
| [19:48:00] | flithm: | but basically it's more likely an ivtv issue than a mythtv one? |
| [19:48:00] | Hoxzer: | so guys |
| [19:48:00] | flithm: | it's just weird that it only happens in recordings |
| [19:48:00] | Hoxzer: | how do I got to the "mysql" database? |
| [19:48:00] | |rt|: | yeah i would suspect the card/driver or a tv signal related issue |
| [19:48:00] | Hoxzer: | or how do I edit it |
| [19:49:00] | Hoxzer: | I'm not working at the moment but I thought I might ask |
| [19:49:00] | flithm: | sorry Hoxzer that makes no sense to me |
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| [19:49:00] | Hoxzer: | flithm: ok, but somebody said that I have to got the mysql to edit channel pids manually |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | man mysql |
| [19:50:00] | Hoxzer: | ok |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | or install phpmyadmin |
| [19:50:00] | Hoxzer: | :E |
| [19:50:00] | flithm: | "got the mysql" doesn't really make sense. |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | good luck if you do it by hand |
| [19:50:00] | tristan77x: | anybody familiar with the picture-in-picture stuff in mythtv? |
| [19:50:00] | Hoxzer: | ;) I'm pretty proff doing stuff by hand you know what I mean |
| [19:50:00] | flithm: | i guess it does to others so I'll just say good luck :) |
| [19:50:00] | laga: | flithm: not everybody speaks english perfectly. |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | learning SQL will take some time |
| [19:51:00] | dmz: | anyone here use nuvexport |
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| [19:51:00] | flithm: | laga: I don't think anyone does :), but point taken |
| [19:51:00] | tristan77x: | dmz: yep |
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| [19:52:00] | flithm: | tristan77x: I use PiP a fair bit. It definitely needs some improvement |
| [19:52:00] | laga: | flithm: have to defend us non-native speakers sometimes ;) |
| [19:52:00] | fryfrog: | wait wait, hold the phone |
| [19:52:00] | ** Beirdo hands laga a bratwurst ** | |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:52:00] | fryfrog: | not everyone speaks english perfectly? |
| [19:52:00] | laga: | Beirdo: had one for dinner. |
| [19:52:00] | flithm: | laga: you seem pretty good at it |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | fryfrog: especially not some Yanks |
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| [19:53:00] | laga: | flithm: suck-up. not my point. ;) |
| [19:53:00] | fryfrog: | freakin yanks! the south will rise again! |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | oh, and don't get me started on the south |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:53:00] | fryfrog: | yeah, to much that is super awsome to even get into right? |
| [19:53:00] | fryfrog: | trucks... dogs... |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | guns... |
| [19:53:00] | fryfrog: | your hot cousin |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | cousins |
| [19:53:00] | fryfrog: | ah yes, guns |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | I can't believe I picked up an accent in less than a week in TN |
| [19:54:00] | tristan77x: | flithm: you also cannot see which of the both channels is selected? |
| [19:54:00] | fryfrog: | guns & beer? |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | be careful, you might spill the beer |
| [19:54:00] | fryfrog: | guns & hot cousin? |
| [19:54:00] | flithm: | laga: why would I need to suck up to you? I just thought it was odd you'd bother defending poor english when yours is obviously fine |
| [19:54:00] | fryfrog: | guns & hot cousin & trucks & dogs & beer == OMGWIN! |
| [19:54:00] | laga: | flithm: hehe. i was just kidding ;). |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | that adds up to the southern experience... and don't forget bitchin' BBQ |
| [19:55:00] | fryfrog: | any "news in brief" on the SVN live tvness? |
| [19:55:00] | laga: | fryfrog: it's enabled again |
| [19:55:00] | fryfrog: | AW SHIT, 5minutes to leavin! |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | mythtv-commits might tell ya |
| [19:55:00] | fryfrog: | super-awsome |
| [19:55:00] | fryfrog: | any idea on dvb? |
| [19:55:00] | flithm: | tristan77x: yeah you kind of have to just remember... it's a bad interface the way it is, and there's tons of features missing... like you should be able to move the window on the fly if it's in a bad spot, and you should be able to select an audio stream without swapping windows... hopefully it'll be improved in future releases |
| [19:55:00] | fryfrog: | speaking of which, i'm headed there now :) |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | I want me some BBQ pork |
| [19:56:00] | fryfrog: | me and the gf are gonna have a bbq reception :) |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | bunghole :) |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | you and yer cousin? |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:56:00] | fryfrog: | ahha |
| [19:56:00] | fryfrog: | yes, me and my cousin :) |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | don't you worry, my buddy in TN got the same treatment for a week straight |
| [19:58:00] | fryfrog: | technically, i think we are considered brother & sister <-- http://fryfrog.com/wordpress/v/MaryAnn-Donnie . . . 870.JPG.html |
| [19:58:00] | tristan77x: | flithm: i'd file a bug/feature req against PiP to add at least a frame around the small PiP window whenever it get focus? that would make a big deal on usability i guess |
| [19:58:00] | Chutt: | i quite close to removing pip completely. |
| [19:58:00] | flithm: | Chutt: what why? |
| [19:58:00] | tristan77x: | huch why? |
| [19:58:00] | Chutt: | because it's a useless feature that nobody uses? |
| [19:58:00] | fryfrog: | cause pip is for bitches!~ |
| [19:58:00] | flithm: | I'd ditch mythtv if PiP was gone |
| [19:59:00] | fryfrog: | instead, you should do side by side for cool people with 16:9s :) |
| [19:59:00] | tristan77x: | Chutt: here are just 2 ppl who ue it |
| [19:59:00] | fryfrog: | who the hell actually uses "livetv" except for testing? |
| [19:59:00] | Chutt: | out of 173 |
| [19:59:00] | tristan77x: | s/ue/use/ |
| [19:59:00] | Chutt: | 2 :p |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | fryfrog: we welcome your patches |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:59:00] | flithm: | PiP would also be a lot more useful if you could use it while watching recorded shows |
| [19:59:00] | fryfrog: | i'd submit em if i had em! |
| [19:59:00] | otwin: | fryfrog: I do |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | live TV... I haven't used it in like 2 years |
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| [20:02:00] | tristan77x: | i'm thinking to make some sort of business around mythtv here |
| [20:03:00] | flithm: | I'd say 90% of the watching I do is recorded, but I still find it nice to browse what's on sometimes. And when I watch live tv I really can't live without PiP. |
| [20:03:00] | laga: | tristan77x: are you the guy who asked about licensing issues on the -dev ML? |
| [20:03:00] | Chutt: | guess you'll be finding something else to use, then. |
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| [20:03:00] | |rt|: | I just got HD so i'm watching more live tv these days |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | |rt|: I'd still record, timeshift, personally |
| [20:04:00] | laga: | Chutt: make a poll on -dev and -users to find out how many people are using PiP |
| [20:04:00] | |rt|: | Beirdo: haven't figured out how to do that with HD yet |
| [20:04:00] | otwin: | i like the browsemode in livetv |
| [20:04:00] | |rt|: | Beirdo: the cable box does have firewire out Motorola 6200 |
| [20:04:00] | Chutt: | why would i make a poll? |
| [20:04:00] | Chutt: | i don't care :p |
| [20:04:00] | laga: | Chutt: your point was that nobody seems to use it. |
| [20:04:00] | Juski: | we losing PiP? (yay!) |
| [20:04:00] | laga: | oh, good then. |
| [20:05:00] | Chutt: | if i don't feel like fixing it for the new tv stuff, yes. |
| [20:05:00] | Chutt: | i haven't decided yet |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | it sounds like it needs a new maintainer or it's toast |
| [20:05:00] | laga: | Beirdo: glad you're volunteering ;) |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | hell no |
| [20:05:00] | tristan77x: | laga: no that wasnt me |
| [20:06:00] | laga: | tristan77x: ok, good. just wondering ;) |
| [20:06:00] | |rt|: | Beirdo: so it's on my list of things to mess with....then i need to get a better way to get myth connected to the tv...right now i'm going in the pc in but that only does 4:3 |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | I don't use liveTV let alone PiP |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | that's always the battle, |rt| |
| [20:06:00] | Juski: | Hiya laga |
| [20:06:00] | flithm: | Chutt: it's fine if you don't want to fix it because it's too irritating and you don't use it, but lots of other people do... there's gotta be someone who'd be interested in maintaining that part |
| [20:06:00] | Chutt: | doubt it. |
| [20:06:00] | tristan77x: | laga: nothing CSS-like i want to make, but larger tv servers with a lot of pvr-500s and disk and a bunch of frontends... |
| [20:07:00] | |rt|: | Beirdo: I may look into dvi to hdmi to the tv....need to get HD recording working first though |
| [20:07:00] | Chutt: | and 'lots' is a huge exaggeration |
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| [20:08:00] | |rt|: | Beirdo: right now I still use the pvr 250's built in tuner and just split the cable line....and it records using SD analog cable channels |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | I'm sure *some* people use it, but unless someone steps up to work on it... I'd rather have the rest of MythTV working "perfectly" and lose PiP functionality :) |
| [20:08:00] | flithm: | Chutt: every single person I know with a mythtv setup (in real life) uses it... so from my experience it's 100% of the people I know :) which is only about 5 or 6... but still. |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | whatever "perfectly" means of course |
| [20:09:00] | Chutt: | <shrug> |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:09:00] | Chutt: | better to buy a tv with pip |
| [20:09:00] | laga: | and use two mythtv boxes? ;) |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, sounds good to me |
| [20:09:00] | tristan77x: | here are quite a lot of ppl around me whom i've helped with the setup, who do use it |
| [20:10:00] | Chutt: | unless you're volunteering to fix it, i really don't care. |
| [20:11:00] | flithm: | Chutt: your attitude isn't really inspiring. You're basically saying "fuck you I don't give a shit" to the users. |
| [20:11:00] | Chutt: | yup |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | flithm: he has to have priorities |
| [20:11:00] | Juski: | that's Chutt's perogative, flithm |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | if you wanna work on it, volunteer |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | otherwise, it will remain unmaintained, and hence likely get removed. |
| [20:12:00] | Chutt: | what have _you_ done to help the project? |
| [20:12:00] | FITH: | Chutt: Benevolent dictator, not a democracy of the users!??! That'll never work... next thing you know someone will try and make an OS on those principals :) |
| [20:13:00] | |rt|: | personally (and i don't use PiP so maybe my opinion doesn't count) but I would rather see the new changes in liveTV that are shaping up in SVN than have PiP |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | bingo |
| [20:14:00] | Krazylegz: | How about being able to PiP any recordings? |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | ooh, another volunteer :) |
| [20:14:00] | Krazylegz: | Crap. |
| [20:14:00] | FITH: | lol |
| [20:15:00] | ** Krazylegz hands Beirdo a trout ** | |
| [20:15:00] | flithm: | Chutt: I might actually be willing to help, I have a 6 month hiatus before I start my master's degree and no huge coding projects left... but like I said your attitude isn't real inspiring. why would I get involved with a project where one of the developers doesn't care about its users? you'd be an idiot to sign onto something knowing that before hand |
| [20:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Was that idea already proposed? |
| [20:16:00] | tristan77x: | flithm: i'm also thinking |
| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | flithm: why should he care about the users like that? |
| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | you're missing the point. |
| [20:16:00] | Chutt: | i especially don't care when people say 'well, i'm not going to help out because of X' |
| [20:16:00] | Chutt: | or, 'i'm not going to use this anymore, because of X' |
| [20:17:00] | ** DarkBeer tosses his "idiot mythtv user" hat to flithm. ** | |
| [20:17:00] | FITH: | Hmm, wish I had a quick link to Linus' quotes on all this (Or Theo de Raadt's for that matter0 |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | "if you don't change this, I'll switch to freevo"... seeya |
| [20:17:00] | flithm: | yeah theo's a real good example of a good leader :) |
| [20:17:00] | FITH: | flithm: Of course, since his project is a total failure... oh.. wait... |
| [20:17:00] | Chutt: | guess what – i get to decide what i spend my free time on. |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [20:18:00] | FITH: | Chutt: Heh, wait you didn't read the part where by writing open source you sell your soul to the users :) |
| [20:18:00] | Chutt: | and i just spent 3 weeks rewriting live-tv, and i don't even use it |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | and I for one am glad you put up with as many whiny types as you do... |
| [20:18:00] | Chutt: | and for that, people bitch about pip |
| [20:18:00] | Chutt: | thanks! |
| [20:18:00] | Juski: | I had an email about my theme yesterday, saying they loved it apart from one thing.. that it's not in any way blue. I told him he was kind of missing the point |
| [20:18:00] | laga: | Juski: hahaha. |
| [20:18:00] | Chutt: | you answer emails? |
| [20:18:00] | Chutt: | :p |
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| [20:19:00] | laga: | Chutt: you have to admit that you broke it ;) |
| [20:19:00] | Chutt: | sure, it's broken because it sucks :p |
| [20:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: Hehe See Bryans mockup OSD ? I started making it this afternoon |
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| [20:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Juski: Are you working on a theme how-to? |
| [20:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | It actually looks pretty good |
| [20:19:00] | Chutt: | greyfoxx, with the too small text? |
| [20:19:00] | Juski: | Chutt you are are greatly unappreciated – I so rarely ever see posts that *don't* whine about how things don't work |
| [20:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chutt: No, not using his sizes exactly, just a similar look, fairly close |
| [20:20:00] | Juski: | A theme how-to? it's a bit of a no brainer IMHO |
| [20:20:00] | Krazylegz: | I never looked into it. |
| [20:20:00] | Krazylegz: | Seemed not fun. |
| [20:20:00] | Juski: | change graphic X for graphic Y |
| [20:20:00] | Chutt: | move the coordinates a bit |
| [20:20:00] | Chutt: | it's hard! |
| [20:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | What would be nifty would be mixing fonts, so you could use different fonts for different textareas rather than one font for the entire OSD |
| [20:20:00] | FITH: | True... people never seem to pipe up when stuff is going well... Here, Chutt, my 0.18.svn machine has been running just fine for months, so thanks! :) |
| [20:20:00] | Juski: | it's a bit of a pain to work out which bit does what, but all it is is _time-consuming_ |
| [20:21:00] | Chutt: | greyfoxx, that'll be easier once all that code's consolidated with the rest of the ui code |
| [20:21:00] | Juski: | if you can bash webpages together a theme should be fairly straightforward |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | other than a couple annoying bugs that plagued me for a bit, my mythtv box has worked great for 2 years running |
| [20:21:00] | Krazylegz: | Juski: Thanks, I might check it out sometime then. |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | that says a lot |
| [20:21:00] | flithm: | Beirdo: I wasn't saying "if you don't change this I won't use it" I was saying "if this feature that I use all the time gets removed I'll _have_ to use something else that has that feature" it's not whining, it's just the way it is. If the devs don't care why should I? |
| [20:22:00] | FITH: | Hmm, after the initial setup all outages were caused be me trying to be too smart for my own good |
| [20:22:00] | Krazylegz: | Beirdo: Yeah, that you have to be a developer to have your Mythbox working! :-) |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | or you can continue using the version you use now, flithm |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | nothing says you have to upgrade |
| [20:22:00] | Juski: | come on – I'm no fsckin brainiac & I got mine working |
| [20:22:00] | Krazylegz: | I know....let's branch MythTV. That would be great. |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | and then wait for someone else to redo the feature, THEN upgrade |
| [20:23:00] | flithm: | Beirdo: yeah its true. only problem is my mythbackend crashes at least once a month... I'm kinda holding out for a new myth release, but I don't think I'd stick with the crashing if I found something equivalent, even if it costed money (especially if features are being removed). |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | and I don't think anyone could care less if a user wants to go use something else. |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | easy come, easy go and all |
| [20:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | flithm: Have you done any investigation into the cause of the crash? Just to be sure that whatever it is has actually been fixed? Otherwise you might be waiting for a fix that isn't coming |
| [20:24:00] | Juski: | with so many people attracted to mythtv because of all the features it offers over the likes of MCE, it's hradly surprising there's so much whining goes on |
| [20:24:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [20:25:00] | flithm: | GreyFoxx: I did look it up in the myth bugzilla, and found other references to it, nothing suggesting a fix though, but you make a good point :) |
| [20:25:00] | tristan77x: | about the pip issue: i'll look through the code, if i can get into it, i may do it |
| [20:25:00] | Beirdo: | everyone wants it to do something in a particular way, then won't/can't work on the code to get it to do it |
| [20:25:00] | tristan77x: | i wasn't too much into c++/qt thing yet so... |
| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | it's not much wonder that Chutt gets annoyed by it after a while. and I'm sure he gets lots of whining and harassment by email too. |
| [20:27:00] | ** otwin 's myth setup works so well he is installing asterisk to have a new challenge... ** | |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | we should be happy he still chooses to hang out and listen to us when he has the time |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | otwin: a fun challenge too :) |
| [20:27:00] | Juski: | I still find it ironic that people complain so much about free stuff, when there's plenty in big $$$ software to moan about |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [20:28:00] | flithm: | Beirdo: yeah... I have a couple open source projects too, so I know how it is. you can't please everyone. but still just being rude is no way to be... just in general. yeah he has a perogative to say "You know what, I'm doing this for me, and I simply don't have the time to do this, but I'd be happy to let someone else take it over." What he says is "fuck it I don't care what people think." there's a big difference |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | you wanna complain, go look at snapstream... or MCE |
| [20:28:00] | Juski: | ooo as many as TWO sdtv tuners, you say? lol |
| [20:28:00] | otwin: | Beirdo: i am at stage where it is not fun yet – resolving dependencies :-) |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | flithm: he's said it both ways many times |
| [20:29:00] | Chutt: | i should make decisions based on what people on irc say! |
| [20:29:00] | flithm: | Beirdo: there's no reason to say it both ways |
| [20:29:00] | Chutt: | sure there is |
| [20:29:00] | Chutt: | people don't hear the first one |
| [20:29:00] | Chutt: | or they equate it automatically to the second. |
| [20:29:00] | Juski: | I always liked the 'I look forward to your patch' line ;) |
| [20:30:00] | Chutt: | it's easier to say 'i don't care' and ignore the complaining afterwards |
| [20:30:00] | flithm: | heheh |
| [20:30:00] | Chutt: | they think you're a dick either way, so, what's the difference? |
| [20:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: I use that a lot :) |
| [20:32:00] | flithm: | Chutt: just so you know I wouldn't think you're a dick if you had gone the first way. some people might you're right, but even if I didn't like your decision I would respect it. You've obviously got a lot to learn about being a project leader. I guarantee you if you didn't take your frustrations out on people you'd be a lot more motivating and generate a lot more interest from other developers. I don't expect you to listen to me |
| [20:32:00] | flithm: | sinec you obviously enjoy being rude to people, but if you think about it you'll know it's true. |
| [20:32:00] | Chutt: | aa _lot_ of people do |
| [20:33:00] | Chutt: | see the users list for examples. |
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| [20:34:00] | Chutt: | it's always funny when people tell me how to run my project, too |
| [20:35:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:35:00] | Chutt: | the first thing you said after i said i was considering getting rid of pip was 'I'd ditch myth if pip were gone' |
| [20:36:00] | Chutt: | so, uh, yeah. |
| [20:36:00] | flithm: | that's a good way to avoid hearing potentially useful advice. being a leader and running a project is seriously hard work... it's like having kids, there's almost no way to prepare for it, and you're almost guaranteed to get it wrong several times |
| [20:36:00] | Beirdo: | flithm: he's doing a pretty good job |
| [20:36:00] | Juski: | more than that I think |
| [20:36:00] | Chutt: | myth is my.. 3rd or 4th open source project? |
| [20:36:00] | Beirdo: | if he wanted to be a hands-off manager, he'd be doing that |
| [20:37:00] | Chutt: | i'm extremely hands off with the people i've given svn access, too |
| [20:37:00] | Beirdo: | even with the whining, bitching and moaning, MythTV has grown and is quite stable |
| [20:37:00] | Beirdo: | Chutt's chosen a good group of people to work with him on his project, and with a few exceptions, there have been very few glitches |
| [20:38:00] | Beirdo: | that sounds to me like successful project management |
| [20:38:00] | Chutt: | people need to stop editing the wiki |
| [20:38:00] | Juski: | Beirdo: I'd say it was rock-solid. I had 2 segfaults waaaay back in the early days (still never resurfaced) but it's never crashed or needed rebooting |
| [20:38:00] | Beirdo: | and those of us who choose to live on the bleeding edge of SVN have got to expect the occasional glitch |
| [20:38:00] | Chutt: | 80.186.175.62 |
| [20:38:00] | Chutt: | wonder who that was |
| [20:39:00] | Juski: | with showshifter & the likes I was rebooting every time it got into a recording |
| [20:39:00] | tristan77x: | it runs here quite stable, also, even the svn snapshot |
| [20:39:00] | kormoc: | a80-186-175–62.elisa-laajakaista.fi |
| [20:39:00] | tristan77x: | ivtv has got probs a couple of times however |
| [20:39:00] | Chutt: | "This should be a list of working Unofficial Patches for MythTV, wich are currently not included in the MythTV svn!" |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [20:39:00] | Chutt: | this is why wikis suck. |
| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | ivtv isn't MythTV |
| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, wikis have a certain sucky factor when there are idiots around |
| [20:40:00] | tristan77x: | yes i know, however both things add to stability |
| [20:40:00] | Juski: | ivtv is a minor miracle in itself too.. those guys need celebrating aswell... developing drivers with no chipset data.. hmmm |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | and their project management has been dubious at best for a large portion of that |
| [20:41:00] | Chutt: | they had plenty of data :p |
| [20:41:00] | tristan77x: | runs quite well today, but was a long way until here |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | we still got something mostly usable :) |
| [20:41:00] | Chutt: | reason ivtv's unstable is because the people writing it didn't know how to do kernel drivers, really |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | wouldn't surprise me one bit |
| [20:41:00] | Juski: | the cx23416 encoder? Conexant wanted big dollars for the reference material |
| [20:42:00] | Chutt: | juski, the docs on the site are from a leaked source-level driver for it |
| [20:42:00] | Chutt: | the firmware stuff, etc |
| [20:42:00] | Juski: | ahhh |
| [20:42:00] | Chutt: | all that info was there :p |
| [20:43:00] | Juski: | you say _was_.. meaning it's not there any more? |
| [20:43:00] | Chutt: | it should still be there |
| [20:43:00] | laga: | night boys. |
| [20:43:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, patches (especially tested ones) are appreciated, I'm sure. |
| [20:44:00] | flithm: | Chutt: look I don't want to get into a big thing about it, because mythtv is great, all I wanted to get across was if you really want myth to make the transition from hobbyist system to something everyone can use my advice is to adopt a more diplomatic approach to dealing with idiot users. whether or not you want to listen to my advice is fine by me, it's just my advice is all. |
| [20:44:00] | Beirdo: | the guys doing the work only have so much time to spend on it, and if it isn't important to them, it won't be done |
| [20:44:00] | Beirdo: | flithm: maybe he isn't looking to make that transition :) |
| [20:44:00] | Juski: | I think some people are getting this confused with a commercial product |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, sometimes I think that too, Juski |
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| [20:46:00] | flithm: | Beirdo: yeah that's true... if that's the case that's cool too! mythtv will kinda stay where it is in that case, and that's fine too... but myth is kinda hitting that spot where it's on the virge of a more widespread adoption, because there's a hugely growing interest in PVR stuff nowdays. I guarantee where there's a need that's not being filled, something else will come along and take its place. |
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| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | could be |
| [20:47:00] | Juski: | there's too much biting the hand that feeds in all aspects of life these days. Some people just don't know when they've got it good |
| [20:47:00] | Chutt: | what, like microsoft giving away mce for free? :p |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | or snapstream/beyondTV? |
| [20:48:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [20:48:00] | Chutt: | case in point: |
| [20:48:00] | Chutt: | [mythtv] Live-TV & Recording nightmare |
| [20:48:00] | Chutt: | yeah, that's a great way to get me to care about someone's problem |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | yeah. |
| [20:48:00] | Chutt: | call the code i'm in the middle of working on a 'nightmare'. |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | I'm sure it is a nightmare... to you |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | until you're done, of course |
| [20:49:00] | tristan77x: | i gotta leave, cuu was nice to talk with you guys |
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| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | I guess people don't realize that if they throw attitude at people, the people aren't likely to want to care about their problems |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | pretty basic human behavior issue, really |
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| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | I know that I've fallen into that trap in the past myself a couple times. |
| [20:51:00] | flithm: | Chutt: I feel for you man. Seriously, like I said I have a couple open source projects myself. Neither nearly as big as mythtv so what I experience must only be a small faction of what you do. But if you let them get to you you'll just burn out eventually. |
| [20:51:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [20:51:00] | flithm: | faction = fraction |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [20:51:00] | Juski: | it's a slow process sometimes, going from "argghhhh stupid Linux... " to "arggghhh.. stupid user" |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | Juski: I usually go the other way :) |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | has something to do with being the BOFH type at work |
| [20:52:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [20:52:00] | |rt|: | Juski: I'm normally saying that to myself |
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| [21:00:00] | wout: | i just installed mythtv and it works great, except when i want to watch live tv, the picture and sound is stuttering all the time, very anoying. is there a way solve this? maybe setting the quality of the picture lower? |
| [21:01:00] | |rt|: | wout have you tried to tell myth to aggressively buffer the audio....i think that's what it's called |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | I'd suggest recording something and playing it back (not livetv) |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | if it still stutters, you need to tweak settings, or use different hardware |
| [21:02:00] | wout: | when i play tv with tvtime it works like a charm |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | some problems can be: lack of DMA on the hard drive |
| [21:02:00] | wout: | nope dma is set right |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | that's because TVtime isn't recording anything |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | another issue can be your audio buffering |
| [21:02:00] | wout: | ah so mythtv always records, even when watching? |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | another is a pure lack of CPU |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
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| [21:03:00] | flithm: | wout: what kinda card? I had a similar issue before I upgraded to a hardware encoding card. I just reduced the frame capture size to a lower resolution and it worked fine... I think either my cpu or disk couldn't handle it. |
| [21:04:00] | wout: | it's a hauppauge wintoGo 2 card |
| [21:04:00] | wout: | works with cx8800 |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | what CPU? |
| [21:04:00] | wout: | cpu could be the problem: 900Mhz :s |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | that's likely the root of your problem |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | however... lower resolution, lower bitrate... |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | you can likely get it working OK |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | also for livetv, consider using rtjpeg, not MPEG4 |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | if you aren't already |
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| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | 900MHz is gonna be a bit tight on CPU for a software-encoding card, especially for livetv where you are encoding and decoding at the same time |
| [21:06:00] | rsdvd: | Good Evening All.......can anyone explain how to setup Myth to auto transcode to a smaller filesize? I can;t work it out |
| [21:08:00] | wout: | ok fixed it, setting the resolution smaller helped a lot! |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [21:08:00] | wout: | thank you very much! |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | half the resolution on both x and y is 1/4 the pixels to encode/decode |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | no problem |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | another thing to consider is lowering the audio quality |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | that can make a big difference to CPU usage on low-powered machines |
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| [21:20:00] | Juski: | yeh lower the sample rate to 22khz & you'll probably never notice |
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| [21:23:00] | Dibblah: | I'm having issues with mythfilldatabase eating all RAM and crashing on a new SVN install. Anyone know a debugging tool that'll show me where the memory is being eaten? |
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| [21:29:00] | Juski: | Dibblah – there's a section in the mythtv docs about compiling with debugging |
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| [21:36:00] | a1fa: | hey |
| [21:36:00] | a1fa: | i want to hook my dvd to mythtv |
| [21:36:00] | a1fa: | will that work? |
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| [21:37:00] | Juski: | ? |
| [21:37:00] | Juski: | dvd what? |
| [21:37:00] | a1fa: | so i dont have to get an a/b box mythtv/dvd? |
| [21:37:00] | Juski: | just use mythtv to play your dvds |
| [21:37:00] | Juski: | or better still rip all your dvds to HDD |
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| [21:45:00] | a1fa: | no |
| [21:45:00] | a1fa: | i have a dvd player |
| [21:45:00] | a1fa: | w/ propriatery surround sound jack |
| [21:46:00] | a1fa: | i cant use the surround :( |
| [21:46:00] | a1fa: | surround sound speakers |
| [21:49:00] | hadees: | anyone know of any good rf remotes? |
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| [21:56:00] | Orfeous: | have not got any answers for my mail yet :( |
| [21:56:00] | rsdvd: | Juski : are you around? |
| [21:57:00] | kormoc: | Orfeous, email doesn't really get forwarded to this channel... |
| [21:57:00] | Orfeous: | kormoc: i know ;) |
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| [22:02:00] | r10: | hi |
| [22:02:00] | r10: | what is the problem when I try to use opengl in music-player or in the gallery my box frezes, and uses 100% of CPU. But I have installed opengl and it works (I have 250 FPS in glxgears) ? |
| [22:05:00] | Agrajag-: | sounds like you dont have direct rendering (250fps is poor) which you want |
| [22:05:00] | simcop2387: | anyone know how well mythfrontend works in cygwin? |
| [22:05:00] | r10: | Agrajag-: before I added DRI to X11 I had 54 FPS |
| [22:06:00] | rsdvd: | simcop.....in my experience it don;t work........cygwin does nto seem to support XV |
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| [22:06:00] | Juski: | rsdvd: busy theming, still |
| [22:07:00] | rsdvd: | :-) I installed your theme last night......brilliant! |
| [22:07:00] | Juski: | glad you like it.. it's getting better |
| [22:08:00] | rsdvd: | I wanted to ask you if you knew what IR reciver you were using in those devices......got a maplins catalogue and trying to work out what I need to order |
| [22:08:00] | Juski: | doing away with all the transparent boxes & replacing them with rounded ones |
| [22:08:00] | Juski: | TSSOP1238 or something I think |
| [22:08:00] | Juski: | most of the 3 pin IR receivers will work |
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| [22:09:00] | rsdvd: | :-( there is only 1 3-pin detector in the catalogue...and I dont; recognise the name |
| [22:09:00] | Juski: | what is it? |
| [22:09:00] | simcop2387: | rsdvd: know of any mythfrontend in windows projects then? |
| [22:10:00] | Juski: | simcop2387: there's only one, and it didn't work both times I tried it |
| [22:10:00] | rsdvd: | cimcop.....there is the WinMyth project.....but it is abit flaky |
| [22:10:00] | Juski: | and one of those times it borked the backend |
| [22:11:00] | Chutt: | 'a bit flaky'? |
| [22:11:00] | simcop2387: | i just need the frontend |
| [22:11:00] | Chutt: | haha |
| [22:11:00] | rsdvd: | a bit flaky = crashes all the time |
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| [22:12:00] | Juski: | would have been better written in MS flavour java IMHO |
| [22:12:00] | rsdvd: | I agree.......I might look into rewriting one when I manage to get my system working |
| [22:13:00] | Agrajag-: | a bit flaky = never up to date with the current protocol (let alone ever actually works) |
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| [22:13:00] | rsdvd: | true |
| [22:13:00] | Agrajag-: | pretty funny that the guy felt the need to reverse engineer the protocol too |
| [22:13:00] | Agrajag-: | because "It's a real pain in the ass to read the code and try to figure it out" |
| [22:14:00] | Agrajag-: | so as if you'd trust anything he writes anyway |
| [22:15:00] | Orfeous: | maybe i must patch my kernel Agrajag-? |
| [22:15:00] | rsdvd: | DSMyth works really well though....so with MythWeb all you can't do is live TV |
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| [22:15:00] | Agrajag-: | Orfeous: did you get a reply from the dvb people? |
| [22:15:00] | Orfeous: | Agrajag-: no.. |
| [22:16:00] | Agrajag-: | well, i think your card is just not supported. unless they've added support for it since 2.6.14 was released, i dont think patching a kernel is going to help you |
| [22:17:00] | Orfeous: | http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/20 . . . /006372.html |
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| [22:25:00] | Orfeous: | Agrajag-: not supported? the kernel finds it and everything.. |
| [22:27:00] | Agrajag-: | ... then why isn't it working |
| [22:27:00] | Bjerre: | Hi guys, I could need a little help. For some reason 'Edit Recording' in the OSD has stopped working. (and I'm a noob). Could someone tell me where to go and fix it ? |
| [22:27:00] | Orfeous: | Agrajag-: i wonder that too :) |
| [22:27:00] | Orfeous: | Agrajag-: i think im doing something wrong.. maybe something in kernel is disturbing the drivers or something :D |
| [22:28:00] | Hackel: | Okay, this is strange... I've finally got audio working but now I can't switch to any channels between 25–63! |
| [22:28:00] | Orfeous: | i have seen at internet that many persons have patched their kernels when they have 2.6.13 or 2.6.14 to get the twinhan card working. |
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| [22:48:00] | [MUPPETS]Gonzo: | I try to import a DVD with myth, I am in a settings menu where I choose the title to import, language, etc. I have all set up – but how Do I start actual importing? |
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| [22:54:00] | Orfeous: | Juski: is it a VP-3040 card i have? |
| [22:56:00] | Juski: | Orfeous: I don't know |
| [22:56:00] | Orfeous: | how do i know? |
| [22:56:00] | Orfeous: | what is VP-3040? |
| [22:57:00] | Juski: | it's _your_ card ;) |
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| [22:58:00] | Orfeous: | Juski: uh? |
| [22:58:00] | ** Chutt removes all profanity from a message before sending it to the dev list ** | |
| [22:59:00] | Agrajag-: | anything left in the message? |
| [22:59:00] | Chutt: | not really. |
| [22:59:00] | Agrajag-: | heh |
| [22:59:00] | Chutt: | stuart morgan's really pissing me off |
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| [23:00:00] | Orfeous: | stuart morgan's? |
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| [23:00:00] | Chutt: | that's what's known as a 'contraction'. |
| [23:01:00] | Orfeous: | hmm.. dvb-kernel or dvb-kernel-4? |
| [23:01:00] | Weezey: | Can someone give me a hand with the ir receiver for the 350? If I just boot the system, then lircd just stops working, but if I manually run /sbin/modprobe lirc_i2c it works fine. |
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| [23:11:00] | Juski: | Orfeous: what card did you buy? what does it say on the box? chances are, that's what your card is |
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| [23:12:00] | Orfeous: | TwinhanDTV Ter-CI Split |
| [23:13:00] | Juski: | right, and I think I agree with Agrajag |
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| [23:14:00] | Orfeous: | Juski: and that is? |
| [23:15:00] | Juski: | the card probably isnt supported yet, and when I said a friend of mine had one working, that was when you just said it was a Twinhan DVB-T card |
| [23:15:00] | Juski: | so for now at least you might be stuck with Windows :( |
| [23:15:00] | Orfeous: | damn!!! |
| [23:15:00] | Juski: | unless you want to help the dvb kernel guys support it |
| [23:16:00] | Orfeous: | how? |
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| [23:17:00] | Juski: | persevere & try to catch someone in #dvb |
| [23:17:00] | RazorJack: | Verified my pvr-250 drivers are working using mplayer /dev/video0... however when running mythtv, It shows -> http://pastebin.ca/30405 |
| [23:17:00] | Juski: | and watch the mailing list very closely |
| [23:18:00] | Orfeous: | Juski: im asking in #dvb one of them told me to try dvb-kernel |
| [23:18:00] | Orfeous: | but when i now read the README-file it said this... "The DVB drivers are already included in Linux 2.6.x, so you usually |
| [23:18:00] | Orfeous: | don't need this package. What you will need, hwoever, is firmware." |
| [23:18:00] | Juski: | firmware will be on the original driver CD |
| [23:20:00] | RazorJack: | What process runs the daemon on port 6543? the ringbuffer..... |
| [23:21:00] | Juski: | mythbackend, isn't it? |
| [23:22:00] | RazorJack: | I checked the paths, its all setup right using /cache/cache |
| [23:22:00] | RazorJack: | I did a chmod 777 on those dirs just incase |
| [23:22:00] | RazorJack: | is there a way to directly reference a file rather than a URI? |
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| [23:30:00] | RazorJack: | im gonna reinstall, I think I b0rked my ivtv, l8rs |
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| [23:37:00] | DeltaF: | Hey.. I'm working on getting lircd working. It all looks good, except irw doesn't report anything back. |
| [23:38:00] | DeltaF: | And yes, I checked the batteries. |
| [23:40:00] | Orfeous: | hmm.. |
| [23:40:00] | Orfeous: | http://www.linuxtv.org/mailinglists/linux-dvb . . . sg00776.html |
| [23:40:00] | Orfeous: | it says "Coming very soon" but that was for 1 year ago |
| [23:41:00] | DeltaF: | SprintPCS supposedly had LBS coming last October. Don't believe support. Unfortunately they're usually left in the dark. |
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| [23:49:00] | Weezey: | my pvr 350 shows a bunch of colourful lines instead of the picture |
| [23:49:00] | Weezey: | svideo input |
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| [23:53:00] | Eddie: | Hi all...my Comcast listings changed (actually, I moved) and I tried running mythfilldatabase -do_channel_updates but the old channels still exist. |
| [23:54:00] | Eddie: | There was a conversation a few days back on the email list about this which referenced manually deleting the old stuff. |
| [23:54:00] | DeltaF: | Will the old stuff fade out after 2 weeks? |
| [23:54:00] | Eddie: | What about the channel names? |
| [23:54:00] | Eddie: | For example, A&E was on 64, now nothing is on there...also, CNBC moved to a channel that was ESPN. |
| [23:55:00] | DeltaF: | How dangerous would it be to manually clean mysql? |
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| [23:57:00] | Eddie: | Assuming the example where a new channel is where an old existed, I did manually delete that chanid and then ran mythfilldatabase again and it looked like it worked. |
| [23:58:00] | Kleevah: | uhm, is it possible to increment the inode count without reformating? |
| [23:58:00] | Eddie: | But I just wanted to see if there was an easier way to do it. |
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