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[00:01:00] | theguyhim: | Is it possible to run a frontend on a PS2? |
[00:02:00] | simon_c: | theguyhim: Don't think so. |
[00:02:00] | simon_c: | Anyone about who can help me get the channes tuned on a DVB card ? |
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[00:16:00] | Agrajag-: | simon_c: what's the problem |
[00:16:00] | Agrajag-: | ? |
[00:16:00] | theguyhim: | So is the ps2 just not capable of being a frontend or people just haven't tried it yet? |
[00:16:00] | Agrajag-: | oh i just read up. well when you scan for channels, you gotta enter a valid frequency |
[00:17:00] | Agrajag-: | did you do that? then the scan should find all your channels |
[00:17:00] | Agrajag-: | theguyhim: check the -users archive im sure people have talked about that lots |
[00:18:00] | simon_c: | Agrajag-: Managed to get it working in the end. |
[00:18:00] | simon_c: | Agrajag-: One site was saying to leave teh tuning settings to default (appart from frequency), but I found another that made some sugestions, that seemed to work. |
[00:19:00] | simon_c: | Agrajag-: Got a full channe list now anway :-) Just need to persude "watch live TV" to default to that tuner now. |
[00:22:00] | lightx: | anyone know about the LiveTV giving me an error about failed to get pginfo |
[00:22:00] | lightx: | im using the latest svn |
[00:25:00] | Beirdo: | livetv is not working in svn right now last I heard |
[00:25:00] | lightx: | right... |
[00:26:00] | lightx: | whats a good program to watch live tv? |
[00:27:00] | Agrajag-: | tvtime, xawtv |
[00:29:00] | lightx: | for some reason, i cant figure out how to save the correct options |
[00:30:00] | lightx: | always complain about no way to get: 384x288 32 bit TrueColor |
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[00:35:00] | theguyhim: | Is there any advantage to having the Hauppauge 500 with digital cable? |
[00:35:00] | theguyhim: | --> do I need 2 cable boxes for this to work? |
[00:39:00] | simon_c: | Does anyone know how to change the default playback tuner and channel for the "watch live TV" option ? |
[00:40:00] | simon_c: | And how do I fill my channel data for DVB channels ? |
[00:42:00] | simon_c: | Hummm. Somehow, some channels have some info there now. And others don't. Should I be using mythfilldtabase for these channels ? Or do they pull the info from the DVB ? |
[00:49:00] | lightx: | im using ivtv driver, what would a good program to watch livetv? |
[00:52:00] | mchou: | wow! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5017396 |
[00:55:00] | simon_c: | Hummm. It seems the EPG data filters through automatically, if slowly over the air.. Good to know. |
[00:55:00] | simon_c: | Well, it's late for me here. |
[00:55:00] | simon_c: | catch you later. |
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[01:54:00] | MacApolloX: | Hey |
[01:54:00] | MacApolloX: | what are you running for hardware in your mythboxes? |
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[02:01:00] | MacApolloX: | REGISTER |
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[02:11:00] | ITGEEKIO: | Hey |
[02:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Hello. |
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[02:25:00] | redline-: | lo all |
[02:26:00] | redline-: | anyone on that uses ledxmit to control an external cable box? |
[02:27:00] | redline-: | I got change_shan.sh working from command line but within Mythtv it spits out a bunch of numbers and never changes the cahnnel |
[02:27:00] | redline-: | that would be change_chan.sh |
[02:28:00] | ITGEEKIO: | does anyone know how to redownload the programming guide data? |
[02:34:00] | Dagmar: | mythfilldatabase |
[02:34:00] | ITGEEKIO: | thanks man |
[02:37:00] | redline-: | i think you also have to restart the backend after you mythfilldatabase? |
[02:37:00] | ITGEEKIO: | ok |
[02:38:00] | Dagmar: | Not necessary |
[02:38:00] | ITGEEKIO: | yeah the times were wrong because some how my bios got reset so yeah no i have to download it all agian |
[02:38:00] | redline-: | you have ntp installed? |
[02:38:00] | ITGEEKIO: | ntp? |
[02:38:00] | redline-: | network time protocol |
[02:38:00] | ITGEEKIO: | oh i don't know |
[02:39:00] | redline-: | ntpd |
[02:39:00] | redline-: | that will adjust you clock to the settings oyu choose when you boot. |
[02:40:00] | redline-: | I am so close to perfecting my myth box |
[02:40:00] | redline-: | I just need to get my sound quality better and picture qual up |
[02:40:00] | ITGEEKIO: | yeah hmm |
[02:41:00] | redline-: | along with changing chans from myth |
[02:41:00] | ITGEEKIO: | what's wrong with the quality? |
[02:41:00] | ITGEEKIO: | grainy? |
[02:41:00] | redline-: | its only good |
[02:41:00] | redline-: | alittle gariny |
[02:41:00] | redline-: | using ivtv drivers |
[02:41:00] | ITGEEKIO: | what card are you running? |
[02:42:00] | redline-: | pvr500 mce |
[02:45:00] | NightMonkey: | Howdy, folks. I just upgraded to ivtv-0.4.0 (kernel 2.6.14), and have been reading about a few people's problems with FF/REW. While I haven't sat down to watch TV in a few days, I wondered if this problem is widespread? Should I expect to see this problem? |
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[02:45:00] | redline-: | are there any optional codec out there or do you have to use the one built into the ivtv driver? |
[02:45:00] | PITABoy: | i am useing the ivtv driver but i dont have a /dev/video0 |
[02:46:00] | PITABoy: | any help |
[02:46:00] | redline-: | NightMonkey: i had to drop back to 3.8 because of tearing in the picture |
[02:46:00] | NightMonkey: | redline-: On recordings, or playback? |
[02:46:00] | redline-: | tv |
[02:46:00] | redline-: | not sure if it was on recordings or not |
[02:46:00] | redline-: | it would be fine for a little bit and after a few channel changes it would start tearing on the top |
[02:47:00] | NightMonkey: | Any success stories? Or is everyone using 0.3.8? |
[02:47:00] | redline-: | PITABoy do you have a /dev/v4l/0 ? |
[02:47:00] | PITABoy: | i had 4.0 |
[02:47:00] | PITABoy: | no |
[02:47:00] | NightMonkey: | It seems strange that there wouldn't be a followup bug-fix from the ivtv folks – they seem very responsive. |
[02:48:00] | NightMonkey: | And the ivtv mailing lists don't reflect a user revolt... |
[02:48:00] | NightMonkey: | But they are often low-traffic. |
[02:48:00] | redline-: | it could just be the way I had it setup I am not very savvy when it comes to keeping dependencies updated |
[02:48:00] | NightMonkey: | redline-: What PVR card do you have? |
[02:49:00] | redline-: | pvr 500 mce |
[02:49:00] | PITABoy: | are there ivtv forums |
[02:49:00] | redline-: | i gotta look into knoppmyth they have it setup very niceley |
[02:49:00] | redline-: | PITA read the topic |
[02:49:00] | redline-: | there is a link to the wiki |
[02:50:00] | NightMonkey: | PITABoy: No, just mailing lists, AFAIK. But they are collected at Gossamer. |
[02:50:00] | NightMonkey: | PITABoy: Ah, yes, and there is a wiki. |
[02:50:00] | PITABoy: | which sucks no offence |
[02:50:00] | NightMonkey: | PITABoy: It does? I like MediaWiki. |
[02:51:00] | PITABoy: | the wiki program is ok but there is no info in it |
[02:51:00] | redline-: | PITA do you have the output of dmesg? |
[02:51:00] | NightMonkey: | PITABoy: Yes, it is bare. But you could help move stuff from their old wiki ;). |
[02:52:00] | redline-: | make sure your driver is loading on boot |
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[02:55:00] | redline-: | Night do you use ledxmit/lirc? |
[02:57:00] | NightMonkey: | redline-: Just LIRC, for the PVR remote. |
[02:58:00] | NightMonkey: | redline-: I have a MyBlaster serial to handle my cable box – no lirc needed. |
[02:58:00] | NightMonkey: | Er, I mean, my sat box – no cable :) |
[03:03:00] | redline-: | i just got lirc working with a homebrew transmitter and it works fine with the change_chan.sh command from prompt but gets crazy when called from myth |
[03:04:00] | NightMonkey: | redline-: How does it get crazy? What symptoms? |
[03:04:00] | redline-: | just spits out seemingly random numbers |
[03:04:00] | redline-: | but works perfectly from the command line |
[03:04:00] | NightMonkey: | redline-: Truly random, or just, say, the first digit? |
[03:05:00] | redline-: | if i change the chan to 124 then it spits 32453 |
[03:05:00] | redline-: | its like 5 digits |
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[03:05:00] | joel: | Greetings |
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[03:06:00] | redline-: | hello |
[03:06:00] | joel: | How fast should switching between the screens be?? |
[03:06:00] | redline-: | wondering if it has to do with this line " for digit in $(echo $1 | sed -e 's/./& /g'); do " |
[03:06:00] | NightMonkey: | redline-: Weird. Never does that when you say "change_chan.sh 124" or similar, huh? |
[03:06:00] | joel: | I mean going from the schedule of TV listings, back to the main menu, etc. |
[03:07:00] | redline-: | well any channel i change to inside myth it will almost randomize the numbers atleast i think its randomized |
[03:07:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: Depends on your hardware. |
[03:07:00] | joel: | I have a pretty fast computer. |
[03:07:00] | NightMonkey: | redline-: Same channel number, different sequence, right? |
[03:07:00] | joel: | 1800 with 500 Megs RAM |
[03:08:00] | redline-: | gonna test that theory now |
[03:08:00] | joel: | It is actually faster than the one that I use as my desktop. |
[03:08:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: What's your TV-OUT? |
[03:08:00] | joel: | I am completly new at this. |
[03:08:00] | joel: | I went through some of the settings. |
[03:08:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: What's your TV-OUT? |
[03:08:00] | joel: | And it is pointed to /dev/video16 |
[03:08:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: What card, sorry. |
[03:09:00] | joel: | Oh Huampage 350 |
[03:10:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: I have that, too, with a 1600. I see some delays on EPG, but, with ivtv 0.4.0, OSD is very quick. |
[03:10:00] | joel: | EPG, OSD?? |
[03:11:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: Electronic(?) Program Guide, On Screen Display (menus, position, and such). |
[03:11:00] | joel: | I am using Fedora 4 , trying to use the documentation from the Fedora documentation that goes with it. |
[03:11:00] | joel: | What OS are you using NM? |
[03:11:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: You don't want to know. ;) |
[03:11:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: Gentoo. |
[03:11:00] | joel: | Crap. |
[03:12:00] | joel: | I ditched that, because I didn't want to recompile everything. |
[03:12:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: However, I hear Jarod's guide is great for Fedora. |
[03:12:00] | joel: | That is the one that I am going through. |
[03:12:00] | joel: | And I am stuck setting up the ivtv stuff |
[03:13:00] | joel: | (in addition to figuring out why switching back and forth is slow) |
[03:13:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: You might change the setting on the redering of the program guide to "Less CPU". |
[03:13:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: Now, are you saying that changing channels in LiveTV is slow? |
[03:13:00] | joel: | myth-setup?? or in the Setup settings?? |
[03:14:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: hang on, let me find the correct place. One sec. |
[03:14:00] | joel: | No, Changing Menus. LIke going from the main menu to something that interacts with the video stuff. |
[03:15:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: Oh. Like when you bring up program listings? |
[03:15:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: Like, Recorded Programs? |
[03:15:00] | joel: | Going to "Watch TV", Going to the TV SChedule. |
[03:15:00] | joel: | Clicking on ESC to exit. |
[03:15:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: How slow? Seconds, minutes? |
[03:16:00] | NightMonkey: | hours ;)? |
[03:16:00] | redline-: | wow interesting, all channels above 126 work fine |
[03:16:00] | joel: | 30 seconds maybe |
[03:16:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: Well, it could be any number of things. What is the load on your box? Shell -> "uptime" will tell you. |
[03:16:00] | joel: | NM where do I change the menu to low res |
[03:17:00] | joel: | .13 |
[03:17:00] | joel: | piddly |
[03:17:00] | joel: | I know it isn't doing anything. |
[03:17:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: Utilities/Setup -> Setup -> TV Settings -> Prgram Guide |
[03:18:00] | joel: | Yeah, I put it on Low |
[03:18:00] | redline-: | hmm wonderwhat would casue that a standard channel change is 0–125 wonder if it has to do with the tuner |
[03:18:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: And you are running mythfrontend locally? Not over a network? |
[03:19:00] | joel: | locally |
[03:19:00] | joel: | This whole computer is dedicated to Myth. |
[03:19:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: Fast disks? Database healthy? Myth really relies on the database alot. |
[03:20:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: Nothing in the logs indicating a problem? |
[03:20:00] | joel: | I loaded the myth-suite that is in the Fedora Core repository |
[03:20:00] | markc: | what database backend does mythtv use ? |
[03:20:00] | NightMonkey: | markc: MySQL. |
[03:20:00] | Dagmar: | mysql. |
[03:20:00] | markc: | great |
[03:20:00] | joel: | I haven't checked to see if the MySQL database is indexed properly. |
[03:21:00] | NightMonkey: | joel: Anything in messages, mysqld.err, etc.? |
[03:21:00] | NightMonkey: | Oh, GF back from work, bbiab. |
[03:21:00] | joel: | I am assuming that the nightly cronjob is importing the XML files into the DB so it can do lookup on the db. |
[03:21:00] | joel: | Is that correct?? or does it have to parse the XML files directly. |
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[03:25:00] | joel: | If you try to record a show, Isn't supposed to start recording right then and there. |
[03:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | joel: the EPG data? It's stored directly into the datbase |
[03:26:00] | joel: | Ok. Sec. |
[03:26:00] | Dagmar: | Acutally it's nto cron. its' the backend that runs mythfilldatabase to uupdate the listings |
[03:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Dagmar: It could be cron depending on your settings |
[03:26:00] | joel: | right. where is it stored at. |
[03:27:00] | Dagmar: | GreyFoxx: I would never set it up as a cron job when it's just a checkbox in the config. Too easy. :) |
[03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Dagmar: It use to always be a cronjob, and many people still do it that way |
[03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Myself included |
[03:27:00] | joel: | Dagmar, that is what the tutorial suggest that I was following. |
[03:28:00] | Dagmar: | Ah... hopefully that will fade out now that the UI just lets you click your way into making it happen |
[03:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | I preferring mine as a cronjob, but to each their own |
[03:29:00] | joel: | where does the UI do that. |
[03:29:00] | joel: | I see where to download it. But I haven't found where you can set up the cronjob |
[03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mythfrontend, settings, general 7th page |
[03:30:00] | Dagmar: | "Somewhere" in the maze of setup stuff. Under General maybe |
[03:31:00] | joel: | Oh, Ok. I see. |
[03:31:00] | joel: | Ok. |
[03:32:00] | joel: | So but where is the XML stored. in the DataBase?? |
[03:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | the "xml" is deleted after it's processed |
[03:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | the processed program data is stored in the database |
[03:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | It would be horribly inefficient to processed xml over and over |
[03:33:00] | joel: | Ok Ok |
[03:33:00] | joel: | It is in program. |
[03:33:00] | joel: | Do any of you use the Haupage 350 |
[03:33:00] | ** GreyFoxx ponders ordering some food ** | |
[03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | I used one briefly I had borrowed for afriend, but only for a weekend |
[03:34:00] | joel: | I was able to hook it up to the TV and get the test page |
[03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mostly to compare to my regular stuff |
[03:34:00] | joel: | Do you use ivtv?? |
[03:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
[03:35:00] | joel: | I might have to go over to that channel, to get some more questions answered. |
[03:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have several pvr 250's |
[03:35:00] | Dagmar: | I have no problems with ivtv now that I turned off the stuff it doens't like |
[03:36:00] | joel: | What does your modprobe.conf say. |
[03:36:00] | joel: | The fedora tutorial/ ivtv tutorial are conflicting. |
[03:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mine are empty |
[03:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I load the modules in a init script will all of the parameters |
[03:37:00] | redline-: | GreyFoxx not sure if you can help but.... |
[03:37:00] | joel: | The ivtv tutorial says that the options in the modprobe.conf file should have: |
[03:38:00] | joel: | options saa7127 enable_output=1 output_select=0 |
[03:38:00] | redline-: | I use ledxmit and a change_chan.sh script to change channels 0–125 get garbled numbers but 126–300 work fine |
[03:38:00] | redline-: | all channels however work fine from a command line but only mess up in myth |
[03:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | redline-: It's been a long time since I used an external channel changer. And all of those channels were > 125 so I might not have run into that |
[03:40:00] | joel: | GreyFoxx where is your init script kep at. |
[03:40:00] | redline-: | thanks GreyFoxx |
[03:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | joel: On my harddrive ? |
[03:40:00] | ITGEEKIO: | I couldn't get my database figured out so i'm just doing a fresh install |
[03:41:00] | joel: | In the .mythrc file?? In the /etc/init/directory?? |
[03:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | well the one that loads the ivtv stuff is /etc/rc.d/rc.ivtv |
[03:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | which is called from rc.pvr, which is called from rc.local :) |
[03:42:00] | joel: | right. Ok |
[03:42:00] | joel: | SO what should be working OUTSIDE of mythtv. |
[03:42:00] | joel: | I was able to record a channel to a file. |
[03:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | You should be able to cat a mpg to the decoder and it should appear on your tv |
[03:43:00] | joel: | And watch the file using mplayer. |
[03:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm talking outside of X/myth |
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[03:45:00] | joel: | The problem is: |
[03:46:00] | joel: | What commands should I use to show the .mpg video to the TV?? |
[03:47:00] | joel: | I have the red,white,yellow, wires hooked up to the imput to the TV |
[03:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | cat file.mpg > /dev/video16 (I think video16 is the video decoder) |
[03:47:00] | joel: | And I can do the text. |
[03:47:00] | joel: | Ok sec. Let me try that. |
[03:47:00] | markc: | anyone know of some 64bit debs that do not rely on libqt3c102-mt (ubuntu hoary maybe?) |
[03:50:00] | joel: | I can hear the sound but no video. |
[03:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | joel: Cables not connected properly ? Yellow is connected to the video input I assume ?:) |
[03:51:00] | joel: | Let me check again. |
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[03:53:00] | joel: | Yellow is "composite out"?? |
[03:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | the Yellow cable is a composite cable that is carrying the video signal, so it would plug into a video "input" on your tv |
[03:55:00] | joel: | Yeah, it is setup correctly. |
[03:55:00] | joel: | But still black screen with audio. |
[03:55:00] | joel: | I was able to see the testlines before. |
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[04:18:00] | atomjack: | anyone having problems with HD channel guide data not being filled in all of a sudden? |
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[04:18:00] | atomjack: | all my HD channels say "NO DATA" |
[04:19:00] | atomjack: | i even tried wiping out the guide data and pulling it down again but still, nothing there for HD channels |
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[05:01:00] | maino82: | nightmonkey: whatre you burning? |
[05:04:00] | NightMonkey: | maino82: Some shows I've recorded. |
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[05:43:00] | DanielHolth: | Hello there. Having authentication troubles in Ubuntu. |
[05:43:00] | DanielHolth: | Client doesn't support method |
[05:43:00] | DanielHolth: | with mysql |
[05:43:00] | DanielHolth: | help, must have television! |
[05:43:00] | DanielHolth: | ;-) |
[05:44:00] | Agrajag-: | can you ask a slightly more intelligent question please? |
[05:45:00] | DanielHolth: | Oh |
[05:45:00] | DanielHolth: | Well, in Ubuntu the QT MySQL library is not as new as MySQL, I think... anyway, MySQL supports multiple authentication methods, and it's asking the client to use one the client does not support. |
[05:46:00] | DanielHolth: | So I need to tell MySQL to use a different authentication method. |
[05:47:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm well check your /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
[05:47:00] | Agrajag-: | what version o fmysql? |
[05:47:00] | DanielHolth: | Or perhaps find a good repository for Ubuntu mythtv things |
[05:47:00] | DanielHolth: | 4.1 |
[05:47:00] | Agrajag-: | what version of libqt3-mt-mysql ? |
[05:47:00] | Agrajag-: | i have 4.1 and it works fine |
[05:48:00] | DanielHolth: | good for you |
[05:48:00] | DanielHolth: | Are you using the newest ubuntu? |
[05:48:00] | Agrajag-: | nope debian |
[05:48:00] | DanielHolth: | I remember having to downgroade my QT database library once before... |
[05:49:00] | Agrajag-: | .. what version of libqt3-mt-mysql? |
[05:49:00] | DanielHolth: | libqt3-mt-mysql 3.3.4–8ubuntu5 |
[05:50:00] | Agrajag-: | is that newest? |
[05:50:00] | DanielHolth: | yes |
[05:50:00] | Agrajag-: | what's the exact error you get? |
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[05:51:00] | khartoom: | hi |
[05:52:00] | DanielHolth: | Oh heck, I think I just need to recompile the sucka |
[05:52:00] | khartoom: | is this the place where I can get help with a mythstream compile problem ? |
[05:52:00] | DanielHolth: | tell me about mythstream |
[05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mythstream is not really a official myth plugin |
[05:53:00] | DanielHolth: | Too bad corporate didn't approve that sucka |
[05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | so it's not a commonly used/seen app by most |
[05:53:00] | khartoom: | hehe i also have a problem mythmusic not compiling |
[05:53:00] | khartoom: | due to a problem with cdaudio |
[05:54:00] | khartoom: | cannot find -lcdaudio |
[05:55:00] | khartoom: | is the error i get |
[05:55:00] | khartoom: | although it's installed |
[05:57:00] | khartoom: | hello? |
[05:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | check to ensure that libcdaudio is in your ld path. |
[05:58:00] | khartoom: | it's there |
[05:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | ldconfig -v | grep libcdaudio shows it ? |
[06:00:00] | khartoom: | ok i get a number of results |
[06:01:00] | khartoom: | "libcdaudio.so.1 -> libcdaudio.so.1.0.0" |
[06:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | should be finding it then |
[06:02:00] | khartoom: | yes |
[06:02:00] | Chutt: | you don't have the .so |
[06:02:00] | khartoom: | it's there |
[06:02:00] | khartoom: | sorry i just pasted the only result that was different |
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[06:04:00] | khartoom: | i think it might be a version issue |
[06:04:00] | khartoom: | "/usr/lib and /usr/lib64 have it |
[06:05:00] | khartoom: | maybe i can elaborate, another part of the error states: |
[06:05:00] | khartoom: | skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libcdaudio.so when searching for -lcdaudio |
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[06:06:00] | Dagmar: | OOoh |
[06:06:00] | Dagmar: | You need to pass that thing -L/usr/lib64 then |
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[06:06:00] | Dagmar: | ...and get a version of libcdaudio built for 64bit |
[06:07:00] | khartoom: | i tihnk the version already installed is a 64bit version |
[06:08:00] | khartoom: | i'm running suse9.3 |
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[06:09:00] | khartoom: | yup it is 64bit (just checked the installed package) |
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[06:19:00] | NightMonkey: | Wow, the avidemux2 site main page is gone :(. |
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[06:27:00] | khartoom: | odd yet very sweet, downloaded cdaudio src compiled and works |
[06:27:00] | khartoom: | thanks alot folks |
[06:27:00] | khartoom: | deceptive package installation |
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[07:07:00] | Skaface: | hello |
[07:08:00] | Skaface: | whats the minimum hardware that i could use for a frontend only which will show dvb |
[07:08:00] | Skaface: | ? |
[07:10:00] | shiznix: | 1GHz CPU, w/256MB RAM perhaps |
[07:13:00] | Skaface: | hmm ok then |
[07:14:00] | Dagmar: | Maybe less if you have a beefy video card |
[07:18:00] | Skaface: | oh also another non important question |
[07:18:00] | Skaface: | has anyone else had those bad huffman code errrors? |
[07:18:00] | Skaface: | and the background image in the theme breaks up |
[07:18:00] | Skaface: | and goes all over the place |
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[07:55:00] | Dagmar: | Skaface: You *might* want to consider running memtest86 for a night |
[07:56:00] | Skaface: | it happens on 2 different computers :) |
[07:56:00] | Dagmar: | Then something is likely wrong with your binaries |
[08:01:00] | Rhamphoryncus: | Skaface: are the computers of similar make, or purchased at a similar time? |
[08:03:00] | Skaface: | one of them is a celron 300A and the other is a 1.8ghz athlon-xp |
[08:03:00] | Skaface: | and nope the 300 doesnt work too well as a frontend... i might have to retire it to the bin |
[08:04:00] | Skaface: | s3 video card in one, nvidia in the athlon |
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[08:06:00] | Dagmar: | Ah you could probably use it as a backend if you have a PVR card |
[08:06:00] | Skaface: | its got no hard drive :) |
[08:07:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, that could probably be a problem then. Make it a firewall. |
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[08:07:00] | Dagmar: | Is your Athlon the 1500Mhz core or the 1200Mhz core model? |
[08:07:00] | Skaface: | 1500 |
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[08:07:00] | Dagmar: | Excellent. |
[08:07:00] | Dagmar: | You can easily run the frontend and the backend on that machine alone if you have a PVR card. |
[08:08:00] | Dagmar: | Whose binaries are you using? |
[08:08:00] | Dagmar: | ...and were you trying to use XvMC for output? |
[08:08:00] | Skaface: | the actual backend computer is a athlon 2800 |
[08:08:00] | Skaface: | which is a frontend as well |
[08:08:00] | Dagmar: | Ah |
[08:08:00] | Skaface: | and the background displays fine on that one |
[08:09:00] | Dagmar: | ...but *whose* binaries are you using? |
[08:09:00] | Skaface: | i compiled it myself |
[08:09:00] | Dagmar: | Okay, no big deal there. (I am not a compiler bigot mind you) |
[08:09:00] | Dagmar: | What distro base are you using? |
[08:09:00] | Skaface: | debian testing |
[08:09:00] | Chutt: | corrupt file, bad harddrive, or bad ram. |
[08:10:00] | Dagmar: | I was thinking bad ram. |
[08:10:00] | Dagmar: | originally anyway... but he's got two machines that are doing it |
[08:10:00] | Chutt: | but sounds like he's using the same file (ie, no harddrive) |
[08:10:00] | Dagmar: | If memtest86 doesn't call foul (you should download it and keep an ISO or floppy handy since you have 3 machines)... |
[08:11:00] | Dagmar: | ...then I got no idea |
[08:11:00] | Chutt: | memtest86 doesn't always show problems, though |
[08:11:00] | Dagmar: | Skaface: You using SVN or 0.18.x release? |
[08:11:00] | Chutt: | jpg decoding being broken isn't part of myth. |
[08:11:00] | Chutt: | :p |
[08:11:00] | Delemas: | mmm myth SVN is yummy 8o) |
[08:12:00] | Skaface: | 18.1 |
[08:13:00] | Dagmar: | Chutt: I can't think of a way Debian could have broken libjpeg, unless they're merging in those jpeg-mmx accellerations |
[08:13:00] | Chutt: | they pretty much can't have |
[08:13:00] | Chutt: | lots of other stuff would be broken, too |
[08:14:00] | Delemas: | Anyone use opera with mythweb? It gets a couple of type errors I'd like to figure out. I'm still rusty on some of the javascript... |
[08:14:00] | Chutt: | and i'm sure it would have been noticed |
[08:15:00] | Dagmar: | Skaface: Is there something explcitly telling you it's encountering huffman errors? |
[08:15:00] | Skaface: | but the thing is on the 2800 im running debian testing as well |
[08:15:00] | Skaface: | they have all been updated today, they are all identical |
[08:15:00] | Chutt: | it's a corrupt file |
[08:15:00] | Chutt: | caused by bad ram / harddrive / etc |
[08:15:00] | Skaface: | i copied the source code from the 1800 onto the 2800 |
[08:16:00] | Skaface: | and compiled them both seperately |
[08:16:00] | Chutt: | so? |
[08:16:00] | Chutt: | what's the source have to do with a jpg it's displaying? |
[08:16:00] | Skaface: | and i compiled another one on the 2800 which runs on the 300a |
[08:16:00] | Dagmar: | Skaface: You need to download memtest86 |
[08:16:00] | Dagmar: | It's like a Mb. |
[08:16:00] | Skaface: | haha ok |
[08:16:00] | Dagmar: | Get the ISO image or the floppy image, maybe both if you like. |
[08:17:00] | Dagmar: | Just boot it on the hardware--it knows what to do. Let it run all night (which is about what it takes if you have a lot of RAM0 |
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[08:17:00] | Chutt: | and if it doesn't find anything, that doesn't rule out bad ram :p |
[08:17:00] | Skaface: | lol |
[08:17:00] | Dagmar: | I've never had it miss bad ram by the second pass |
[08:17:00] | Chutt: | i can run memtest86 for days on this machine, doesn't find anything |
[08:18:00] | Skaface: | if it were bad ram, on both computers, why is the problem exactly the same? wouldnt that be like a massive fluke? |
[08:18:00] | Chutt: | uh |
[08:18:00] | Chutt: | you're storing the file on a single computer |
[08:18:00] | Chutt: | no? |
[08:18:00] | Skaface: | nope |
[08:18:00] | Chutt: | since you said the one computer doesn't have a harddrive. |
[08:18:00] | Skaface: | the 300 is booting off the 2800 |
[08:18:00] | Skaface: | the 1800 is standalone |
[08:18:00] | Chutt: | <shrug> |
[08:19:00] | Dagmar: | Skaface: It's more likely that due to the way RAM gets used that you may well just have some bad memory at the very high end on both machines |
[08:19:00] | Chutt: | whatever's broken, it's not myth =) |
[08:19:00] | Delemas: | Works well here 8o) |
[08:19:00] | Skaface: | im not so sure about that :) |
[08:19:00] | Chutt: | uh |
[08:20:00] | Chutt: | it's displaying a jpg |
[08:20:00] | Dagmar: | Just run memtest86 when you go to sleep tonight to rule out the possiblity |
[08:20:00] | Chutt: | i didn't fucking write my own jpg decoder. |
[08:20:00] | Chutt: | the file is fine in svn. |
[08:20:00] | Chutt: | therefore, it's not myth. |
[08:21:00] | Dagmar: | Skaface: That which handles the displaying of the jpg does not lie in Myth space |
[08:21:00] | Dagmar: | Skaface: therefore you should be asking yourself, why isn't it happening to all *three* machines if they're so identical. |
[08:21:00] | Skaface: | yeah |
[08:21:00] | Skaface: | if i try displaying the jpeg using some other jpeg viewer |
[08:21:00] | Skaface: | in theory it should be corrupt yeah? |
[08:22:00] | Skaface: | if it uses the same librarys to decode it |
[08:22:00] | Dagmar: | If the file is corrupt, *probably8 |
[08:22:00] | ** Delemas nods ** | |
[08:22:00] | Skaface: | dinner is ready, gotta run |
[08:23:00] | Dagmar: | _blue: Offhand, you're doomed. ..but what are you compiling it on? |
[08:23:00] | Dagmar: | wrong channel |
[08:23:00] | Chutt: | doooomed |
[08:26:00] | otwin: | Delemas: i'm using opera – never noticed a problem – using 0.18.1 though |
[08:29:00] | Delemas: | I was using an older version, I just updated to an svn snapshot of the stable tree. Same deal. I haven't taken a close look into it yet. Here is one of typeerrors: http://pastebin.ca/29101 |
[08:30:00] | Delemas: | Obviously firefox and others are quite happy with that Javascript... |
[08:31:00] | otwin: | what version of opera are you using? |
[08:31:00] | Delemas: | Claims to be the latest one sec... |
[08:32:00] | Delemas: | Opera/8.5 (X11; Linux x86_64; U; en) |
[08:32:00] | otwin: | i'm using 8.5/linux and never had a problem |
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[08:33:00] | Delemas: | hmm I'll take a closer look. There must be something silly then... |
[08:33:00] | otwin: | wait – opened javascript console in opera and there i see the message |
[08:35:00] | Delemas: | aah good |
[08:35:00] | Delemas: | well not so good but at least I'm not on glue 8op |
[08:35:00] | Delemas: | For 3am I probably should be... |
[08:35:00] | otwin: | but what 'feature' does not work? mouseover shows program info fine |
[08:37:00] | otwin: | can't see any difference between opera/firefox |
[08:39:00] | Delemas: | That error is mainly cosmetic as far as I can tell. The buttons borders are smaller than the icons here in opera. Other than filling the error log I haven't seem much else so far. |
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[08:42:00] | Delemas: | I'd like to figure out what it is complaining about. *shrugs* probably best to look at it when I'm awake. |
[08:44:00] | otwin: | :-) |
[08:44:00] | otwin: | now i see – in FF the icons are rounded, not so in opera |
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[09:01:00] | juski: | mornin' |
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[09:14:00] | Orfeous: | hello everyone! |
[09:14:00] | Orfeous: | good morning |
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[09:51:00] | tobo: | how can i check i xine is using xvmc |
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[10:18:00] | Orfeous: | cant get mythtv working :( |
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[11:40:00] | DCGrendel: | anyone have experience with the SMK ir sensor included with the pvr150 mce kit? |
[11:41:00] | DCGrendel: | i've got lirc-0.7.2 installed and lirc_mceusb loaded but its not being recognized |
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[11:43:00] | Orfeous: | i even cant get mythtv installing :) |
[11:44:00] | DCGrendel: | heh |
[11:44:00] | Orfeous: | have problems to get my DVB-t card working under linux. |
[11:45:00] | Orfeous: | ive installed "dvb-utils" and ran "dvbtune -m" then i got this message FD 2: fd_dvr DEMUX DEVICE: : No such file or directory |
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[11:55:00] | Orfeous: | hmm.. |
[11:55:00] | Orfeous: | now i know why ;) |
[11:56:00] | Orfeous: | i have no frontend in my kernel. the strange is that some guides tells me to answer yes to that support. but i dont have it in my config. very strange |
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[12:01:00] | fryfrog: | Orfeous: may need to patch your kernel |
[12:02:00] | Orfeous: | fryfrog: yes, i understand that but i cant find any patch to my version 2.6.14.2 only to 2.6.10 |
[12:02:00] | fryfrog: | oh, humm what card? |
[12:03:00] | fryfrog: | in 2.6.14, my air2pc card's front end had been added |
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[12:04:00] | fryfrog: | speaking of which, i need to boot into my new kernel :/ |
[12:05:00] | Orfeous: | Twinhan DVB-t |
[12:05:00] | Orfeous: | maybe you can help me found a patch |
[12:05:00] | fryfrog: | the guides for the card dont' point one out? |
[12:05:00] | DCGrendel: | wtf |
[12:05:00] | DCGrendel: | Nov 18 07:05:00 [kernel] lirc_mceusb[4]: out of memory (code=9) |
[12:07:00] | juski: | Orfeous: you might need to compile your own kernel.. make sure all the dvb related features are enabled. I remember from yesterday your kernel is new enough & should already have the core code needed |
[12:08:00] | DCGrendel: | can someone ls -l /dev/lirc* for me? |
[12:10:00] | Orfeous: | juski: i have allready compile it |
[12:11:00] | juski: | Orfeous: did you make sure V4L and DVB for V4L were included? Probably I2C bit bashing tooo |
[12:11:00] | Orfeous: | Yes |
[12:12:00] | Orfeous: | problem is that no frontend are loaded |
[12:12:00] | juski: | did you build the dvb stuff as modules? |
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[12:13:00] | juski: | in /dev/dvb you should have adapter0, and within that should be frontend0, dvr0, net0 IIRC |
[12:13:00] | Orfeous: | yes, that is correct |
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[12:16:00] | juski: | have you seen the DVB guide at http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html ? |
[12:18:00] | Orfeous: | hmm.. not that guide but i have seen many others. |
[12:19:00] | Orfeous: | my problem here is that i dont have any frontend in my kernel. |
[12:19:00] | Orfeous: | 2.6.14.2 |
[12:19:00] | Orfeous: | and my card is Twinhan DVB-t |
[12:20:00] | juski: | a kernel that new should already include dvb frontends |
[12:21:00] | juski: | Orfeous: do you edit the config file yourself or use menuconfig? |
[12:21:00] | Orfeous: | menuconfig |
[12:21:00] | Orfeous: | i cand dcc the config.. |
[12:22:00] | juski: | er.. no you can't.. don't even go there :) |
[12:22:00] | DCGrendel: | ok, finally got my mceremote to work i think |
[12:22:00] | Orfeous: | why not? |
[12:22:00] | DCGrendel: | anyone got a lircrc for a mceusb remote/ |
[12:23:00] | juski: | Orfeous: is the dvb stuff made as modules or built in? |
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[12:23:00] | Orfeous: | module |
[12:24:00] | juski: | cool |
[12:24:00] | juski: | do modprobe -l and paste the output of that into a pastebin |
[12:26:00] | Orfeous: | hmm.. |
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[12:26:00] | DCGrendel: | argh |
[12:26:00] | DCGrendel: | lircd 0.7.2: could not open /dev/lirc |
[12:26:00] | DCGrendel: | why is it doing this to me |
[12:28:00] | Orfeous: | juski, soon i must compile kernel first :) in this kernel i have enables some of the options.. but in this new i have set all as modules.. |
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[12:56:00] | bigslam: | what would be the command to compile mythtv on a dual core machine? |
[12:56:00] | laga: | make |
[12:58:00] | defy: | lol |
[12:59:00] | Orfeous: | hihi |
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[15:16:00] | toom: | hi guys |
[15:17:00] | laga: | hello toom |
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[15:19:00] | toom: | i was wondering, when i click on mythvideo in the web interface, is there a way to update the filelist? |
[15:19:00] | toom: | or does it have to be done by the frontend |
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[15:30:00] | toom: | well.. it's not that important. i'll figure it out, eventually |
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[15:46:00] | toom: | how am i supposed to run mythweather --configure, when there is no such binary? |
[15:47:00] | toom: | actually, there is no such file |
[15:49:00] | Krazylegz: | libmythweather.so |
[15:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Though, you don't run that. |
[15:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Which tutorial are you using? |
[15:50:00] | toom: | i was reading http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-18.html |
[15:50:00] | toom: | and now the README |
[15:50:00] | toom: | I suppose it wants me to run the frontend |
[15:51:00] | Krazylegz: | Interesting. |
[15:51:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe mythweather is an executable in .18.1, I don't know. |
[15:51:00] | toom: | it's not |
[15:51:00] | toom: | there is just the .so |
[15:51:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, for your video list issue, you want to go to Setup->Video Manager and it will scan for your new stuff. |
[15:51:00] | toom: | no executable |
[15:52:00] | toom: | Krazylegz: so it's the frontend again.. |
[15:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Eh? |
[15:52:00] | toom: | i don't really like to configure everything via the ffrontend |
[15:52:00] | toom: | or which setup do you mean? |
[15:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, frontend setup. |
[15:52:00] | Krazylegz: | You'll have to do it each time you put a new video on the frontend anyway. |
[15:53:00] | toom: | the frontend is in an other room |
[15:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. |
[15:53:00] | Krazylegz: | VNC? |
[15:53:00] | toom: | ugh |
[15:53:00] | toom: | no way |
[15:53:00] | toom: | i'd rather use xforwarding |
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[15:53:00] | toom: | but still, i think there should be another way |
[15:53:00] | PITABoy: | tuner 3–0061: tuner type not set |
[15:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Pick your poison. |
[15:54:00] | PITABoy: | what do i do |
[15:54:00] | toom: | i might have a look in the source and code something tiny that scans for new videos and mp3s |
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[16:10:00] | PITABoy: | help |
[16:19:00] | PITABoy: | anyone have ivtv 5.0 working |
[16:21:00] | laga: | 5.0? |
[16:24:00] | Krazylegz: | Fuenf. |
[16:25:00] | laga: | Krazylegz: ja, danke ;) |
[16:25:00] | Krazylegz: | Bitte. |
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[16:28:00] | kartom: | hi folks |
[16:29:00] | kartom: | anyone know where i can get help with mythstream? |
[16:29:00] | kartom: | i understand it's not an official mythTV plugin |
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[16:46:00] | simon_c: | Hi all. How can I change the default channel myth will start when you select "watch tv" |
[16:47:00] | laga: | mythtv-setup. "starting channel" |
[16:47:00] | simon_c: | Ahh. I thought that was on a per-tuner basis. |
[16:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's configured per tuner |
[16:48:00] | simon_c: | I want the staring channel to be on a different tuner to the one myth starts. as default |
[16:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't think there is a way to specify that. Other than to mess around with card priorities and so on which I've never bothered with |
[16:49:00] | simon_c: | GreyFoxx: Ahhh. OK. |
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[16:49:00] | simon_c: | Any idea how I'd mess around with the card priorities ? Do you mean on the PCI bus ? |
[16:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or delete the cards and add them in a specific order. LiveTV always defaults to the last of the tuners I added to the system |
[16:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | simon_c: No, in the myth database |
[16:50:00] | ** simon_c has just added a DVB-T card, which is much nicer than the crappy analogue card. ** | |
[16:50:00] | simon_c: | ahh. It's defaulting to the first on my system. |
[16:50:00] | simon_c: | lol |
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[16:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | simon_c: But you would have to experiment really. I've never really messed with it as I don't really use livetv |
[16:50:00] | ** simon_c heads of to snoop around the database some more. ** | |
[16:50:00] | simon_c: | thanks. |
[16:54:00] | simon_c: | grrrr. It is set to default ro the dvb card, but it isn't. |
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[16:57:00] | fryfrog: | has anyone ever seen a motherboard that would not boot with 3 pci cards in it but does fine with 2? |
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[16:57:00] | bill2or3: | is your powersupply big enough? |
[16:58:00] | fryfrog: | 450W |
[16:58:00] | fryfrog: | but it is driving 7 drives |
[16:58:00] | fryfrog: | i doubt one *pci* tuner card is tipping it over the edge :/ |
[16:59:00] | fryfrog: | i should describne better, sec |
[16:59:00] | fryfrog: | with 2 pci cards, it turns on fine *every* time |
[16:59:00] | fryfrog: | with 3, it turns on about 1 in every 5 |
[17:00:00] | fryfrog: | i've tried warm resets, cold boots, unplugging and plugging in power... |
[17:00:00] | fryfrog: | its odd what makes it *finally* boot with 3 cards in, usually a cold boot having been off a few seconds |
[17:01:00] | toom: | see your health monitor |
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[17:01:00] | bill2or3: | what if you unplug a few drives? |
[17:01:00] | fryfrog: | i'll try that next time |
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[17:10:00] | webbnetsys: | Greetings Guys |
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[17:12:00] | webbnetsys: | Does anybody have problems trying to record a program?? |
[17:12:00] | webbnetsys: | I am trying to do a sample record. |
[17:12:00] | webbnetsys: | It looks like it takes, but then it isn't saved in the SQL database |
[17:13:00] | webbnetsys: | I am running Fedora Core with a JFS partition |
[17:14:00] | webbnetsys: | Partition is up and running and the myth user can write to it. |
[17:14:00] | webbnetsys: | Also it is specified in MythTV to put it at. Any solutions out there?? |
[17:17:00] | simon_c: | webbnetsys: Do you have the program guide information in there ? |
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[17:25:00] | webbnetsys: | Simon, yes |
[17:25:00] | webbnetsys: | I have tried going to schedule a recording by going through the schedule. |
[17:26:00] | webbnetsys: | Going through Find, Going through Search. |
[17:26:00] | simon_c: | don't know sorry. I'm no expert on myth |
[17:26:00] | webbnetsys: | And then I finally get to the screen where you have to choose "Record this One Time" etc. I save... |
[17:26:00] | webbnetsys: | It looks like it should be queued to record, but no dice.. |
[17:27:00] | webbnetsys: | simon_c, What are you a pro at?? I am having ivtv issues as well. |
[17:27:00] | whyz: | hello... i recently moved /usr, /tmp, /var and /home to new partitions. Since then, many things in /dev have been strange. For example, i've had to alter permissions on all /dev/sound, mixer, videoXX and now lastly i changed permissons for /dev/fb/*. All that is well (i guess), but one morething happened.. i cannot get sound off the video capture anymore. Any clues to why? |
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[17:27:00] | webbnetsys: | I worked with GreyFox last night a little bit. |
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[17:28:00] | whyz: | mplayer just says "Audio: no audio", mythtv doesnt say anything |
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[17:29:00] | whyz: | how do i fix this? the modules are loaded as they should |
[17:29:00] | rsdvd: | Hi All.....does anyone know how to set the timezone in minimyth? |
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[17:32:00] | mchou: | Wow, cisco to buy scientific atlanta....... |
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[17:41:00] | Beirdo: | that could be a very bad thing for Sci-Atl users |
[17:41:00] | Beirdo: | or a good thing |
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[17:49:00] | ITGEEKIO: | What's up? |
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[17:50:00] | ITGEEKIO: | what are some of your hardware setups? |
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[18:07:00] | ITGEEKIO: | cheese |
[18:07:00] | ITGEEKIO: | oops |
[18:07:00] | ITGEEKIO: | how quiet are your home theater boxes |
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[18:16:00] | webbnetsys: | Has anybody gotten mythtv web going?? I am loaded all the new RPMS following the Fedora install documentation and it looks like it isn't working. I am recieving the error message: User Notice at /var/www/html/mythweb/includes/mythbackend.php, line 159: |
[18:16:00] | webbnetsys: | Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 'MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 15': Fatal Error at /var/www/html/mythweb/includes/mythbackend.php, line 32: |
[18:16:00] | webbnetsys: | Unable to connect to mythbackend, is it running? |
[18:16:00] | webbnetsys: | The system administrator has been notified and the problem will be remedied shortly. |
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[18:21:00] | Beirdo: | sounds like your backend isn't running |
[18:21:00] | Beirdo: | read the message :) |
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[18:24:00] | webbnetsys: | Beirdo, the backend is running. No firewall to get in the way, etc. |
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[18:25:00] | Beirdo: | well, then maybe the configuration of the Mysql stuff isn't done to point the mythweb to the server properly |
[18:25:00] | Beirdo: | in the latest mythweb that's in .htaccess |
[18:26:00] | Beirdo: | the older ones, in config/config.php or soemthing like that |
[18:27:00] | webbnetsys: | I will check out the .htaccess file |
[18:28:00] | webbnetsys: | But no, I do have the config/conf.php file that has all the mysql information in there. I also checked the client connection from there using mysql and it worked, so I really don't know what it is complaining about. |
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[18:31:00] | Beirdo: | dopester... long time no see |
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[18:33:00] | deigo: | is the 3 or so seconds it takes to change channels standard? |
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[18:40:00] | dopester: | beirdo: yeah im still here :) |
[18:40:00] | dopester: | got a d70s the other day and i love it |
[18:40:00] | Beirdo: | coool |
[18:40:00] | Beirdo: | I like my D70 ;) |
[18:41:00] | Beirdo: | and my fiancee's :) |
[18:42:00] | sandos: | haha |
[18:42:00] | Beirdo: | the D70s is nice though |
[18:43:00] | dopester: | they dont make the d70 anymore only the d70s |
[18:43:00] | dopester: | at least thats what i was told |
[18:43:00] | Beirdo: | i bought mine used :) |
[18:43:00] | Beirdo: | way cheaper |
[18:44:00] | sandos: | used? hmm I wouldnt buy a dslr used.. mechanical components =) |
[18:44:00] | Beirdo: | it was still under warranty, the guy upgraded to a D70s (such a waste) |
[18:46:00] | sandos: | ah |
[18:46:00] | dopester: | yeah id upgrade to the d200 but its a tad pricey (and not available yet) |
[18:46:00] | sandos: | Im worried as it is about my 300D which is only "supposed" to last for 10k images |
[18:55:00] | Beirdo: | I'm sure it will last way longer than that |
[18:55:00] | Beirdo: | what do they think will stop working? |
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[19:16:00] | |rt|: | how do you guys hook up your myth to your HDTV? |
[19:16:00] | |rt|: | I just got a new tv and was looking at using the PC input on it (dvi) |
[19:19:00] | xris: | hdmi or dvi |
[19:19:00] | xris: | or component |
[19:19:00] | xris: | you probably need to get a dvi -> hdml adapter |
[19:20:00] | xris: | s/hdml/hdmi/ |
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[19:20:00] | laga: | OT: what would i use to split a 1.4gb xvid-encoded avi file into two 700mb pieces? |
[19:20:00] | Beirdo: | A katana |
[19:21:00] | ** laga chops Beirdo into little pieces and burns him to CD-R ** | |
[19:21:00] | kormoc: | laga, a dvd? |
[19:21:00] | kormoc: | :P |
[19:22:00] | laga: | kormoc: haven't found the right DVD writer yet ;) |
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[19:32:00] | ille: | laga: man split |
[19:32:00] | laga: | ille: that will mess up the headers. |
[19:32:00] | ille: | laga: but that will not play it just do a raw split |
[19:33:00] | laga: | ille: right :) |
[19:34:00] | ille: | laga: any tool like the divx-fix tool for linux? |
[19:34:00] | laga: | ille: i don't know. i think i should just see what is used by dvd::rip. |
[19:38:00] | Beirdo: | laga: I'm sure there are winblows tools for ya |
[19:39:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i'm quite sure that i don't have windows :) |
[19:39:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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[19:47:00] | ** Delemas scratches head. Does it make sense for mythtv's SVN revision numbers to increase with no log changes or diffs? ** | |
[19:47:00] | Delemas: | I've checked out 7917 and I want a changelog or diff against 7907 so: cd mythtv; svn log --revision 7907:HEAD ? |
[19:48:00] | laga: | Delemas: it's like with your free space in gmail ;) |
[19:48:00] | Delemas: | huh? |
[19:48:00] | laga: | Delemas: just kidding ;) |
[19:48:00] | Delemas: | ah k |
[19:50:00] | |rt|: | xris: sorry for the delay....the tv does have hdmi input but would dvi be better since the video card supports it natively? |
[19:50:00] | xris: | hdmi *is* dvi |
[19:50:00] | |rt|: | xris: hdmi has audio as well |
[19:50:00] | xris: | hdmi == dvi + DRM |
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[19:51:00] | xris: | ah, didn't know about audio |
[19:51:00] | |rt|: | xris: yeah it's supposed to provide digital video and audio with one wire |
[19:51:00] | xris: | anyway, afaik that's your option.. dvi -> hdmi adapter.. should just be a tiny thing to rearrange the wires.. no conversion or anything. |
[19:51:00] | |rt|: | xris: but the tv does have dvi (pc input) as well |
[19:52:00] | xris: | oh |
[19:52:00] | xris: | then just use that |
[19:52:00] | xris: | thought you said it didn't |
[19:52:00] | |rt|: | xris: i was thinking about using that as I can get a dvi cable alot cheaper than hdmi |
[19:52:00] | |rt|: | xris: would i need to set my xwindows resolution to 1080? |
[19:52:00] | |rt|: | 1920x1080 i guess |
[19:53:00] | xris: | video card should have options for that |
[19:53:00] | xris: | not really sure |
[19:53:00] | xris: | I don't have hdtv |
[19:53:00] | |rt|: | yeah well first step i guess is to get a dvi cable and give it a try :) |
[19:53:00] | |rt|: | the details tend to work themselves out |
[19:58:00] | |rt|: | are there any analog hd capture cards for linux that work with myth? |
[19:58:00] | Beirdo: | ? |
[19:58:00] | |rt|: | i know there is the over the air cards |
[19:58:00] | Beirdo: | analog HD? |
[19:59:00] | Beirdo: | in exactly what format? |
[19:59:00] | |rt|: | Beirdo: if i use component out of the digital cable box to the card |
[19:59:00] | Beirdo: | never heard of a component capture card under Linux |
[19:59:00] | |rt|: | well i think they exist but they are probably professional video i/o boards |
[20:00:00] | Beirdo: | well, find the cards, then see if you can find drivers, I guess |
[20:00:00] | Beirdo: | certainly out of the norm |
[20:00:00] | |rt|: | yeah....well the professional video i/o boards aren't really affordable |
[20:00:00] | Delemas: | apparently nothing changed. must be some kind of svn vs. cvs difference... |
[20:01:00] | Beirdo: | well, if you want component capture, I bet you'll pay for it |
[20:01:00] | |rt|: | looks like this question has been asked before on slashdot |
[20:01:00] | |rt|: | http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/11/18/ . . . 37&tid=4 |
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[20:02:00] | |rt|: | Beirdo: we have some hardware to do it here at work on the windows side of things |
[20:02:00] | |rt|: | Beirdo: but it's all pro stuff that requires dedicated raid arrays etc |
[20:02:00] | Beirdo: | bet it wasn't cheap either |
[20:02:00] | |rt|: | nope |
[20:04:00] | |rt|: | what about the firewire support in myth....is that capable of HD? |
[20:04:00] | Beirdo: | not sure |
[20:04:00] | |rt|: | that may be the affordable solution if that works |
[20:04:00] | |rt|: | not sure my cable box does firewire though....had hdmi and component i know |
[20:05:00] | fman: | hwo about firewire input from dv cams |
[20:05:00] | fman: | would be good to be able to get a copy from dv to hd/dvd automagically |
[20:05:00] | |rt|: | fman: like a transcoding application |
[20:05:00] | fman: | yep |
[20:06:00] | fman: | I was using a sony dvd burner that does just that |
[20:06:00] | fman: | will talk to the dv cam, rewind it etc make a dvd with chapters etc |
[20:06:00] | |rt|: | ah nice |
[20:06:00] | fman: | was very nice |
[20:07:00] | laga: | i believe that the firewire support in mythtv is not suitable for use with dv cams |
[20:08:00] | Beirdo: | we look forward to your patches :) |
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[20:08:00] | fman: | sorry, me no coder |
[20:08:00] | fman: | if only |
[20:08:00] | kormoc: | fman, time to learn! |
[20:09:00] | fman: | yeah right, got a 5 month old baby...he is keeping me busy in all my spare time |
[20:09:00] | Krazylegz: | fman: Then just be a motivator, like me. |
[20:09:00] | Krazylegz: | Go kormoc GO!! |
[20:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Good work Beirdo, let's keep the ball rolling! |
[20:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Etc. |
[20:10:00] | laga: | Krazylegz: o_O |
[20:11:00] | Krazylegz: | laga: Do you have those TPS reports for me? Thanks. |
[20:11:00] | Beirdo: | I feel like playing Tetris |
[20:15:00] | laga: | Beirdo: when i find some spare time, i'm going to learn free cell. |
[20:15:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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[20:20:00] | |rt|: | laga: once you master free cell you'll have to move on to minesweeper |
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[20:21:00] | laga: | |rt|: maybe. but i really want to get my black belt in free cell first. |
[20:26:00] | ** |rt| once dreamed of being a free cell ninja ** | |
[20:27:00] | fryfrog: | i logically get how minesweeper works... but i can't apply that knowledge |
[20:27:00] | laga: | |rt|: that would rock. those guys really get the chicks |
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[20:27:00] | fryfrog: | click, click, BOOM! |
[20:27:00] | fryfrog: | thats every game of minesweeper i play :/ |
[20:27:00] | laga: | fryfrog: hehe. |
[20:27:00] | laga: | i use a large field with less mines. |
[20:27:00] | fryfrog: | wuss :) |
[20:28:00] | laga: | i dont want to kill the poor smiley |
[20:30:00] | Beirdo: | kaBOOM! |
[20:32:00] | laga: | Beirdo: ubuntu ships with gnometris *g* |
[20:32:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[20:32:00] | Beirdo: | I'm at work |
[20:32:00] | Beirdo: | got winXP |
[20:34:00] | sphery: | fryfrog: That answers a question I've always had... Now I know what that Saliva song is about... http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/thefastandthef . . . lickboom.htm |
[20:34:00] | sphery: | ;) |
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[21:35:00] | a1fa: | GUYS |
[21:35:00] | a1fa: | omG |
[21:36:00] | a1fa: | i got a POS terminal.. |
[21:36:00] | a1fa: | touch screen |
[21:36:00] | a1fa: | i want to control mythtv with it |
[21:36:00] | a1fa: | besides the remote control.. i dont know if i should rune myth-frontend on it or use windows and vnc into my server? |
[21:37:00] | a1fa: | POS-562 mobo |
[21:37:00] | a1fa: | 233Mhz :P |
[21:39:00] | a1fa: | http://support.elmark.com.pl/advantech/pdf/POS-562ds.pdf |
[21:39:00] | a1fa: | specs here |
[21:39:00] | a1fa: | 200mb of ram |
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[21:44:00] | maniacxs: | is there a posibility to update videos in database (using mythvideo) with e.g.: a cron job ? |
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[21:52:00] | a1fa: | anybody :: |
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[22:06:00] | kormoc: | a1fa, likely it will be too slow for a frontend |
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[22:18:00] | haha: | is it possible to use svideo to connect my tv to my computer? |
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[22:18:00] | bill2or3: | probablly. |
[22:18:00] | pookSter: | haha yes |
[22:18:00] | haha: | ok next question |
[22:19:00] | pookSter: | do you mean watch your computer on the tv |
[22:19:00] | pookSter: | or watch the tv on the computer? |
[22:19:00] | haha: | watch computer on the tv |
[22:19:00] | pookSter: | ok |
[22:19:00] | pookSter: | go on |
[22:19:00] | Juski: | haha: tv outputs of graphics cards tend to be only useful for erm.. watching tv from the computer |
[22:20:00] | haha: | ok well I only have 128 MB RAM on this machine that I will use |
[22:20:00] | Juski: | next to no use for web browsing or anything like that |
[22:20:00] | haha: | THANKS ALREADY GUYS |
[22:20:00] | pookSter: | do you have component in connectors on your tv? |
[22:20:00] | Juski: | haha: the xbox can run Linux, and that only has 64MB RAM.. and 32 of that is allocated to its graphics chip |
[22:21:00] | haha: | ok well i was thinking later i would get an xbox frontend but just want to use the server for now |
[22:21:00] | haha: | yes pookster |
[22:22:00] | haha: | an svid in on the tv and an svid out on the graphics card |
[22:22:00] | haha: | its a ti 4200 |
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[22:24:00] | haha: | does that sound ok to run myth as a server and frontend (ie one unit)? |
[22:24:00] | Juski: | tv output might be pretty crappy depending on what tv encoder it uses |
[22:24:00] | Juski: | best way to find out will be to try it |
[22:24:00] | Juski: | 128MB RAM might be pushing your luck a little though |
[22:25:00] | pookSter: | What I mean is does your tv have "component in" (3 rca connectors in a row red green blue) for video in |
[22:26:00] | haha: | yes pookster |
[22:26:00] | haha: | like 4 of them |
[22:26:00] | pookSter: | well, I would go a different route then if your tv is High Def |
[22:26:00] | haha: | and i was planning on getting more ram juski |
[22:26:00] | haha: | its a wega crt |
[22:26:00] | haha: | from sony |
[22:27:00] | pookSter: | I would get a transcoder and output your video card to the transcoder, then go from the transcoder to your component in. That way you can get full HDTV res out of your box |
[22:27:00] | pookSter: | If your tv supports 1080i or 720p |
[22:27:00] | haha: | good brand to look at? |
[22:27:00] | haha: | I am not sure on that |
[22:27:00] | haha: | it isnt HD it is a tube |
[22:28:00] | pookSter: | audio authority makes a nice one |
[22:28:00] | haha: | newegg?? |
[22:28:00] | pookSter: | oh, then you prolly don't have component video |
[22:28:00] | pookSter: | you better check the manual of the tv to see what video res it supports |
[22:28:00] | pookSter: | you may be stuck with s video or composite in |
[22:29:00] | pookSter: | composite video is not the same as component video |
[22:29:00] | haha: | ok that can still be DVD quality though i assume since i can hook up ps2 and dvd players |
[22:29:00] | haha: | right? |
[22:29:00] | pookSter: | well, it depends if your tv has a progressive input or not |
[22:30:00] | pookSter: | but it will look best as you will get out of the svideo |
[22:30:00] | pookSter: | txt will suck |
[22:30:00] | haha: | ok cool |
[22:30:00] | pookSter: | but if you just want it for videos |
[22:30:00] | haha: | yeah |
[22:30:00] | pookSter: | that will be ok |
[22:30:00] | haha: | ok |
[22:30:00] | haha: | that will be great |
[22:30:00] | pookSter: | don't plan on reading the credits after the movie though :) |
[22:30:00] | haha: | do you use digital cable? |
[22:31:00] | haha: | oh wow that sounds really bad |
[22:31:00] | pookSter: | right now I am using an HD5000 ATSC high def tuner off an antenna |
[22:31:00] | haha: | what does the xbox do to make it so much clearer |
[22:31:00] | pookSter: | and a DVB-s satellite card and a Hauupauge 250 for analog tv |
[22:32:00] | haha: | ok sounds like you know what you are talking about alright |
[22:32:00] | pookSter: | I'm not familiar with what xbox uses. I might use an xbox 360 for my frontend if they can be hacked as they output HDTV now |
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[22:33:00] | pookSter: | with the tv you have, I'm sure you will be happy with whatever you input it with. Its not over 40 inches is it? |
[22:33:00] | haha: | so you think that when I record stuff off the hauppage card (maybe a 500) that the res will be so bad on playback that i cant read credits? |
[22:33:00] | haha: | no its 27 |
[22:34:00] | pookSter: | well, no not the recording |
[22:34:00] | pookSter: | the recording will be great, its wen you have to output it through svideo |
[22:34:00] | pookSter: | but with 27 inches |
[22:34:00] | pookSter: | it will be fine |
[22:34:00] | pookSter: | On my TV it would really suck |
[22:35:00] | pookSter: | the bigger you go, the more defects you will notice |
[22:35:00] | haha: | well i was over at my buds with the same basic setup but he was using an xbox front end |
[22:35:00] | haha: | it looked great |
[22:35:00] | haha: | yeah i would imagine that |
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[22:35:00] | bill2or3: | does the xbox FE work ok? |
[22:35:00] | pookSter: | I think you will be really happy. The xbox can output more res than your tv sounds like it can handle |
[22:36:00] | haha: | yes bill it works great |
[22:36:00] | haha: | ok but i dont have an xbox for now |
[22:36:00] | haha: | whatever its all learning experience for me |
[22:37:00] | haha: | pookster, so let me ask you this and i'll leave you alone |
[22:37:00] | pookSter: | me as well |
[22:37:00] | pookSter: | I learn lots every day |
[22:37:00] | pookSter: | read read read |
[22:37:00] | bill2or3: | that'd be great, if you could do somehting about the noise. |
[22:37:00] | haha: | is there any advantage to getting a 500 with digital cable? |
[22:38:00] | pookSter: | what noise? |
[22:38:00] | pookSter: | well first off |
[22:38:00] | haha: | would i be able to take advantage of the 2 encoders |
[22:38:00] | pookSter: | I don't think the 500 works on digital cable |
[22:38:00] | pookSter: | you will have to get an HD5000 Airstar |
[22:38:00] | pookSter: | it will work on the analoge ones |
[22:39:00] | pookSter: | You also have to find out if you do have digital cable is if it is unencrypted cable or not |
[22:39:00] | pookSter: | some providers encrypt it so you have to use their box |
[22:40:00] | haha: | yeah i have to use their box |
[22:40:00] | Juski: | hell.. first time in about 6 months I've had a monitor hooked up to my backend machine & I noticed X wouldn't start because the mouse wasn't plugged in *lol* |
[22:40:00] | pookSter: | but then you can sometimes take an output from the digital cable box and convert it to analog, then into the 500 |
[22:40:00] | pookSter: | lol |
[22:40:00] | pookSter: | ignorance is bliss Juski |
[22:41:00] | haha: | pookster take a look at this |
[22:41:00] | haha: | http://store.snapstream.com/btv-pvr150.html |
[22:41:00] | fman: | anyone able to help me with the required command to run mame games inside the latest svn release? |
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[22:44:00] | pookSter: | ok, so all they are doing there haha is taking an analog output out of the cable box and into the pvr150 OR I have heard some do it by firewire |
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[22:44:00] | pookSter: | then the mythtv will control the cablebox with IR commands |
[22:45:00] | pookSter: | What I did was got rid of the encrypted cable box, put up an antenna and I get lots of HD channels |
[22:46:00] | pookSter: | Then got a satellite card for the stuff I can't get off the antenna |
[22:46:00] | haha: | ah ha |
[22:46:00] | haha: | ok |
[22:46:00] | bill2or3: | what kind of satellite? |
[22:47:00] | pookSter: | the closest HD station is 65 miles away and it comes in at 85–100% signal strength |
[22:47:00] | pookSter: | Any satellite you want, they will tune them all |
[22:47:00] | kormoc: | pookSter, that's not normal is it? |
[22:47:00] | haha: | it looks like the only way having a 500 would be beneficial is if I used two boxes on it |
[22:47:00] | Juski: | phew! all still works.. I love my linux boxes :) |
[22:47:00] | pookSter: | whats not normal? |
[22:48:00] | kormoc: | pookSter, the hd station so far away and so strong |
[22:48:00] | bill2or3: | I mean, what kind of programming can you get with a pci satellite card, that's actually worth getting? |
[22:48:00] | bill2or3: | none of them support a CAM, right? |
[22:48:00] | bill2or3: | or are you in europe, with the fta stuff? |
[22:48:00] | pookSter: | what surprised me so much is I can be pointed to a station in the west at 100% and turn the ant south and not suffer any degredation in the signal...its awsome |
[22:48:00] | pookSter: | they support fta |
[22:49:00] | pookSter: | dishnetwork fta |
[22:49:00] | bill2or3: | whats on dish, in the clear? |
[22:49:00] | bill2or3: | I was under the impression it was all crypted. |
[22:49:00] | pookSter: | and you can also receive all the niagara2 encrypted stuff as well...but we don't talk about that there |
[22:49:00] | pookSter: | *here |
[22:49:00] | bill2or3: | heh |
[22:49:00] | kormoc: | receiving isn't a issue... the decryption is... |
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[22:50:00] | pookSter: | exactly |
[22:50:00] | pookSter: | I would have it just for the nasa channel :) |
[22:51:00] | bill2or3: | pookster, are you talking aobut your current setup, or someone elses, or some non-existant setup that you'd like to have someday? |
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[22:51:00] | pookSter: | my current setup |
[22:51:00] | pookSter: | I don't have it all in myth yet |
[22:52:00] | pookSter: | I just got the sat card the other day and I am "testing " it in xp first to play with it as I don't know linux enough to troubleshoot heavily |
[22:52:00] | bill2or3: | ahh |
[22:52:00] | bill2or3: | what sat card did you get? |
[22:52:00] | pookSter: | I got the starsat2 |
[22:52:00] | pookSter: | by tecnisat |
[22:52:00] | ** bill2or3 googles ** | |
[22:52:00] | pookSter: | the same people who make the HD5000 card |
[22:53:00] | pookSter: | but they all work the same |
[22:53:00] | pookSter: | twinham is another popular one |
[22:53:00] | bill2or3: | pook, dcc-chat me? |
[22:53:00] | pookSter: | and they are only $69 |
[22:53:00] | bill2or3: | Mmm, ham. |
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[22:54:00] | bill2or3: | I'd really like to find a list of what you can actually recieve FTA where I am. |
[22:54:00] | pookSter: | hang on |
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[22:54:00] | pookSter: | I'll get it for you |
[22:55:00] | bill2or3: | because I'm intrigued, but dont wanna spend a few hundred bucks just to find out all I can get is the 700 Club. |
[22:55:00] | bill2or3: | I've seen the list at lyngsat. |
[22:55:00] | pookSter: | thats it |
[22:56:00] | pookSter: | well, if you are not into the FTA hobby, a sat card isn't for you as the programming is not all that great |
[22:56:00] | pookSter: | If you want to hack dish, then it is |
[22:56:00] | pookSter: | its all up to what road you go down |
[22:56:00] | pookSter: | but you won't find help here for it |
[22:57:00] | bill2or3: | over at #fta huh? |
[22:57:00] | bill2or3: | so is there anything worth getting that's not on Dish, but just in the clear? |
[22:57:00] | pookSter: | I have had both an IRD for dish and a card for dish. I prefer the card as it is more "harty" |
[22:58:00] | pookSter: | Nasa |
[22:58:00] | pookSter: | Angel network :_ |
[22:58:00] | bill2or3: | I have directv allready.. |
[22:58:00] | bill2or3: | sounds jesusy. |
[22:58:00] | pookSter: | Its not like the old days in fta where there were lots of wild feeds to hunt for |
[22:59:00] | pookSter: | but, I might say this |
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[23:00:00] | pookSter: | if you were subscribed to DIshnetwork leagally, and you just wanted to have a better interface for your tv than what they offer through mythtv, I would be able to sleep nights if I hacked the PCI card to receive what I was paying for |
[23:00:00] | pookSter: | I know a lot fo guys doing that |
[23:01:00] | bill2or3: | of course. |
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[23:05:00] | pookSter: | kormoc What I like the best is not having to turn the antenna on some of the stronger ones. And most of the HD channels also had 2 SD or DT stations attached to them so for one station, you had 3 different programs |
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[23:05:00] | bill2or3: | where can I read more about which satellite cards are good, etc? |
[23:06:00] | pookSter: | google. dbs-s card |
[23:06:00] | pookSter: | I don't have my bookmarks on this computer |
[23:06:00] | bill2or3: | cool cool |
[23:06:00] | pookSter: | I think dishnewbies.com will have something too |
[23:06:00] | bill2or3: | I just go a HD3000, and the system it's going into arrived yesterday, so I'm just starting with myth |
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[23:07:00] | pookSter: | well, I am going to put the HD5000 in myth probably this week if I get some problems ironed out |
[23:07:00] | pookSter: | If it works as good as it does in windows, I will be impressed |
[23:08:00] | bill2or3: | hd5000? |
[23:08:00] | bill2or3: | somethine else from playtech? |
[23:08:00] | pookSter: | it is from technisat |
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[23:09:00] | pookSter: | http://www.cyberestore.com/product_info.php?products_id=103 |
[23:09:00] | pookSter: | This guy was great to deal with |
[23:09:00] | pookSter: | I ordered it and it was on my doorstep the next day |
[23:09:00] | bill2or3: | ahh, pretty much the same deal as the hd3000 then |
[23:10:00] | pookSter: | pretty much |
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[23:10:00] | bill2or3: | the pchdtv people are local, so I got that. |
[23:10:00] | pookSter: | I'm not sure if they have xp support for the 3000 yet, but it is coming |
[23:10:00] | pookSter: | but who cares if you are going myth |
[23:11:00] | pookSter: | I think it supports qam now |
[23:14:00] | bill2or3: | I dont run windows anyway.. |
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[23:18:00] | pookSter: | here are basically 2 things different about dbv-s sat cards |
[23:18:00] | pookSter: | some like the nexis have hardware to do all the heavy crunching |
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[23:19:00] | pookSter: | the cheaper cards like the technisat and twinham use software, so you need at least a 1 GHz machine for them, whereas if you got one of the hardware cards you can get away with 500MHz |
[23:21:00] | bill2or3: | gotcha. |
[23:21:00] | bill2or3: | so probablly worth getting one that does it in hardware. |
[23:21:00] | bill2or3: | whats the other difference? |
[23:22:00] | pookSter: | depend on what computer your back end is |
[23:22:00] | pookSter: | mine is an athlon64 |
[23:22:00] | pookSter: | so I went with the $69 card :) |
[23:22:00] | pookSter: | the others I think are $200 |
[23:23:00] | bill2or3: | I got a athlon x2 3800+, should do ok. |
[23:24:00] | pookSter: | probably not, but I would be willing out of the goodness of my heart to trade you my 3200 just to get you up and running |
[23:26:00] | bill2or3: | well if you think it'd be for the best, how can I not? |
[23:27:00] | pookSter: | :) |
[23:27:00] | pookSter: | that should be one hell of a backend |
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[23:28:00] | bill2or3: | well it'll be my desktop too. |
[23:28:00] | pookSter: | I sure hope these XBox360s will be able to be hacked for a front end since they output in 1080i |
[23:28:00] | bill2or3: | but I'm just running xterms and firefox, pretty much. |
[23:28:00] | pookSter: | that is the plan for this box |
[23:29:00] | pookSter: | I am just going to let it run with open office, firefox and thunderbird for the wife |
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[23:29:00] | pookSter: | but I am having problems getting myth to work without removeing some of the plugins |
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[23:30:00] | pookSter: | I still am getting seg faults because of some bug it has right now |
[23:30:00] | pookSter: | I assume most who built a 64bit system on fedora C4 built it from source |
[23:30:00] | pookSter: | as they don't have the same problem |
[23:32:00] | bill2or3: | weak. |
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