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| [00:05:00] | Gumby: | hrm. |
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| [00:06:00] | ** Gumby wonders what is causing the skipping on the backend. ** | |
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| [00:07:00] | Gumby: | slave backend doesnt skip when watching livetv. both tuners on the master do. pvr250 and wintv-go |
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| [00:12:00] | Gumby: | no messages in logfiles messages,syslog,mythbackend.log |
| [00:12:00] | kormoc: | Gumby, cpu usage? disk speed? |
| [00:12:00] | Gumby: | cpu usage is low |
| [00:13:00] | Gumby: | it could be a LVM problem, but I havnt see it before |
| [00:14:00] | Gumby: | hrm, one of the drives on the LVM isnt using dma, however it doesnt have any data on it yet |
| [00:14:00] | kormoc: | might it be choking the rest down to the speed of that drive? |
| [00:15:00] | mofu: | Gumby: are you sure you know which tuner is being used when watching LiveTV on the slave? |
| [00:15:00] | Gumby: | mofu: yes, its the local tuner |
| [00:16:00] | mofu: | what cpu? |
| [00:16:00] | Gumby: | mythbackend slave = p4 2ghz, mythbackend master = athlon 2500+ |
| [00:17:00] | Gumby: | again, the slave doesnt skip, the master does |
| [00:17:00] | mofu: | what video cards? |
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| [00:18:00] | mofu: | can you say netsplit . . . . ?? |
| [00:19:00] | Gumby: | master backed = mx440, slave backend = radeon 7000. The TV is only connected to the master backend |
| [00:19:00] | Gumby: | so its not too relevant |
| [00:19:00] | mofu: | Gumby: assume you have Nvidia driver for the mx440 |
| [00:20:00] | mofu: | ? |
| [00:20:00] | Gumby: | yes |
| [00:20:00] | Gumby: | again, I watch tv off of the master only, the slave is just a slave backend. It doesnt do any frontend functionality other than sending the image to the master backend (which is also the frontend) |
| [00:21:00] | mofu: | but the master is skipping right? |
| [00:21:00] | Gumby: | yes |
| [00:21:00] | Gumby: | but not when its using the slaves tuner |
| [00:22:00] | mofu: | mx440 is AGP? |
| [00:22:00] | Gumby: | looks like turning DMA on for one of the LVM drives has fixed it |
| [00:22:00] | ** Gumby tests that theory ** | |
| [00:22:00] | Gumby: | yes, AGP |
| [00:22:00] | mofu: | good |
| [00:23:00] | Gumby: | yep |
| [00:23:00] | Gumby: | hdparm -d0 /dev/hde skipping starts |
| [00:23:00] | Gumby: | hdparm -d1 /dev/hde skipping stops |
| [00:24:00] | Beirdo: | duh |
| [00:24:00] | Gumby: | allthough i am getting artifacts on the screen. |
| [00:24:00] | Beirdo: | you will need DMA on |
| [00:25:00] | Gumby: | Beirdo: the strange thing is that data shouldnt be written to this drive yet. The LVM isnt full enough to be writing any data to it |
| [00:25:00] | Beirdo: | hard to day |
| [00:25:00] | mofu: | lvm spreads things out, its not like a barrel |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | hard to day even |
| [00:26:00] | mofu: | hard to say even |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | say |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | dammit |
| [00:26:00] | mofu: | lol |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | I can't type |
| [00:27:00] | mofu: | Beirdo: do you think I should be getting stuttering wathing 1080i while recording 1080i ??? single 200GB drive |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | dunno |
| [00:27:00] | mofu: | watching . . . |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | I don't do HDTV |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | wouldn't surprise me much though |
| [00:28:00] | mofu: | I can watch a 1080i program while its recording, i.e. the drive head isn't dancing back and forth across the drive |
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| [01:12:00] | dhofstra_: | mofu I dont get stuttering watching HDTV, but I am using LVM and my system with swap is on a separate disk (this probably doesnt help you much, sorry) |
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| [01:12:00] | dhofstra_: | using something like gkrellm you can see a graph of when each disk is being used in the lvm... pretty cool. |
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| [01:16:00] | mofu: | yeah, trying to get gkrellm to run remotely on my powerbook . . . . |
| [01:16:00] | NightMonkey: | Gah, "stable" lirc doesn't work yet with kernel 2.6.14 :(. |
| [01:16:00] | mofu: | I have a separate system disk on the primary IDE channel, 200GB is alone on secondary |
| [01:16:00] | dhofstra_: | i wouldnt think that 200gb disk would be any different than my lvm then |
| [01:17:00] | dhofstra_: | did you say you were using a amd chip? |
| [01:17:00] | dhofstra_: | an amd chip I suppose |
| [01:17:00] | mofu: | dhofstra_: no this is 2.8Cel-D w/ dual channel 512mb |
| [01:17:00] | dhofstra_: | sheesh, that should do it.. |
| [01:17:00] | mofu: | Live 1080i is fine . . . . |
| [01:18:00] | dhofstra_: | I have 2.4 celeron D dual channel 512, and I record and watch HDTV fine.. but it is a little slow changing channels, escaping, etc.. but no stuttering |
| [01:18:00] | mofu: | just when it starts working on two different stream it stutters . . . |
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| [01:18:00] | dhofstra_: | what do you mean 2 different streams |
| [01:18:00] | dhofstra_: | do you mean a 720p channel and a 1080i channel |
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| [01:19:00] | mofu: | previously recorded show + currently being recorded show |
| [01:19:00] | dhofstra_: | hrm.. that should be the same as livetv then... |
| [01:19:00] | dhofstra_: | you sure your livetv buffer isnt on your primary drive?? |
| [01:19:00] | mofu: | yep, only difference I can think of is disk is jumping around more |
| [01:20:00] | simon_c: | Hi All. I seem to have developed a problem with one of the tabels in the database. I'm getting an "Can't open `record.MYI` (errno: 145)" error. Looks like it's just teh record table. |
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| [01:20:00] | mofu: | don't have LiveTV right now, SVN . . . . but Record and immediately watch is close enough . . . . |
| [01:20:00] | Lepis: | I was looking for suggestions on a ir reciever and a remote control for my happague 500 card |
| [01:21:00] | mofu: | simon_c: there is database repair instructions either in the main Docs or in the mailing list |
| [01:21:00] | simon_c: | mofu: Thanks. I'll try there. |
| [01:21:00] | dhofstra_: | yeah, I was referring to watching 720p channels and then switching to 1080i causes lots of problems in past 2 versions of myth... recording from each video type is fine, just switching during livetv doesnt work |
| [01:21:00] | ** simon_c slaps self for not checking docs first ** | |
| [01:23:00] | mofu: | dhofstra_: what is your 1080i playback cpu usage? |
| [01:23:00] | dhofstra_: | err.. I think it is in the high 80s lower 90s if I remember correctly (gf5200) |
| [01:23:00] | mofu: | ok |
| [01:23:00] | dhofstra_: | on my master with gf440 it is in upper 90s |
| [01:24:00] | mofu: | i'm 70–80 for playback |
| [01:24:00] | dhofstra_: | wow |
| [01:24:00] | mofu: | plus a bit if recording |
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| [01:24:00] | dhofstra_: | that extra .4 ghz is making its money for ya.. heh he |
| [01:25:00] | mofu: | yep |
| [01:25:00] | dhofstra_: | lemme check for sure then. |
| [01:25:00] | simon_c: | mofu: Got it sorted thanks. |
| [01:25:00] | ** simon_c goes of to sort out a database backup now too ** | |
| [01:25:00] | Mytho-X: | so is HDTV playback possible on an Athlon 1800+? |
| [01:25:00] | mofu: | 0.4ghz=400mhz=PII, about 8 years ago?? right |
| [01:26:00] | mofu: | ? |
| [01:26:00] | mofu: | Mytho-X: doubtful, I think XP 24/2500's are borderline w/ all the tweaks, maybe w/ XvMC, but then OSD is not as good |
| [01:27:00] | Mytho-X: | ok, I had it all setup, could not watch live TV or playback. Recording seems to be no problem though |
| [01:27:00] | dhofstra_: | oh, i guess I'm upper 60s lower 70s here on backend.. heh.. been a long time |
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| [01:28:00] | mofu: | Mytho-X: wouldn't even stutter, drop frames? |
| [01:28:00] | dhofstra_: | no I meant 0.4 ghz in that your cpu is 2.8 and mine is 2.4 |
| [01:28:00] | mofu: | i know, just dwelling on how fast CPU's are today |
| [01:29:00] | Mytho-X: | well not sure, since I cannot really watch it |
| [01:29:00] | dhofstra_: | I have heard problems from people trying with anything lower than xp 2300 |
| [01:29:00] | Mytho-X: | I was hoping I could encode it in a lower format and watch it somehow |
| [01:30:00] | mofu: | will take HOURS AND HOURS to encode it down, given it won't play it back |
| [01:30:00] | Mytho-X: | I was mainly testing things out, see how they would work before purchasing the case, ps and new mobo |
| [01:30:00] | mofu: | waste of time |
| [01:30:00] | Mytho-X: | that is what I thought |
| [01:30:00] | dhofstra_: | these celerons seem to do a great job for how cheap they are, though |
| [01:30:00] | Lepis: | Any IR receiver recommendations? I checked lirc.org but wanted to know if there were any more than just the one they rec'd |
| [01:30:00] | Mytho-X: | now shouldnt I be able to just use NTSC for standard recording and watch that? |
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| [01:31:00] | mofu: | dhofstra_: true |
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| [01:32:00] | dhofstra: | Mytho-X do you mean the bttv portion of a pchdtv card? or do you mean regular def stuff broadcast digitally? |
| [01:32:00] | mofu: | either |
| [01:32:00] | Mytho-X: | dhofstra: yes, either |
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| [01:32:00] | Mytho-X: | I cannot seem to get anything to play livetv or playback |
| [01:33:00] | Mytho-X: | cannot record anything but HDTV |
| [01:33:00] | mofu: | Mytho-X: what card?? |
| [01:33:00] | Mytho-X: | I tried setting the HD3000 to NTSC in mythtv-setup and it just stopped working |
| [01:33:00] | dhofstra: | i would think you could watch the bttv portion, but sometimes the regular def stuff is still broadcast upconverted by the stations as 1080i .. would be easier to tell if my tv reported incoming signal types. |
| [01:33:00] | mofu: | Mytho-X: using 0.18.1 ??? |
| [01:34:00] | dhofstra: | dunno if the bttv portion of the pchdtv works or not... |
| [01:34:00] | JohnP789: | Cool! I just got my Linux Journal. Congrats! |
| [01:34:00] | mofu: | the latest kernel does have support for it |
| [01:34:00] | Mytho-X: | mofu: I did a new install using knoppmyth R5A22 |
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| [01:35:00] | mofu: | Mytho-X: never mind, I dont' like KnoppMyth, Its a good concept, but the whole point is its supposed to JUST WORK. No sense in have a bleeding edge release that doesn't work |
| [01:36:00] | Mytho-X: | mofu: I can understand what you mean |
| [01:37:00] | Mytho-X: | I started off just trying to use the card and ran in to trouble, but then figured out my box would not detect the card |
| [01:37:00] | Mytho-X: | the myth version says 19.2 |
| [01:38:00] | Mytho-X: | mofu: what distro do you use? |
| [01:38:00] | dhofstra: | bttv can burn alot of cpu cycles too. (if your going for good image quality...) |
| [01:38:00] | mofu: | which is a bullshit number that Isaac is furious about |
| [01:38:00] | mofu: | Debian Sarge |
| [01:38:00] | DarkBeer: | ok, I rarely use myth for live tv. wife is on her way home and not sure if she'll be here in time for her show that starts at 9. does it make more sense to use live tv and just hit pause until she gets here, or record the program, and start the "watch recordings" when she gets here |
| [01:39:00] | dhofstra: | depends on the size of your buffer.. heh... I'd record the program in case you accidently hit the esc key.. |
| [01:39:00] | dhofstra: | lets not compare sizes of buffers |
| [01:39:00] | dhofstra: | heh |
| [01:39:00] | DarkBeer: | you can play back a recording while it is recording, right? |
| [01:40:00] | dhofstra: | yup |
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| [01:40:00] | DarkBeer: | k, i'll do that. figure after a couple rounds of ffwd through commercials, she ought to be able to catch up to it live |
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| [01:41:00] | dhofstra: | thats the way I watch live tv.. MLB for instance is nice to start about an hour into the game |
| [01:41:00] | Mytho-X: | mofu: I was wondering about that since I new that latest MythTV was 18.1 |
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| [01:42:00] | Mytho-X: | I have been using Debian for awhile now so, maybe I will just ditch knoppmyth all together |
| [01:42:00] | DarkBeer: | thanks dhofstra |
| [01:42:00] | NightMonkey: | OK, lirc-0.7.3pre1 works with kernel 2.6.14. Yay, bugs.gentoo.org. |
| [01:42:00] | dhofstra: | really if you are familiar with apt. debian/fc/suse should all be pretty easy to setup myth in... |
| [01:43:00] | dhofstra: | or i suppose ubuntu uses apt.. dunno |
| [01:43:00] | mofu: | Mytho-X: my recommendation is to compile in Sarge, the pre-packed stuff is for Unstable and you really dont' want to use Unstable right now, its in its "rough" period |
| [01:43:00] | Mytho-X: | yeah, it seems pretty easy to setup |
| [01:43:00] | Mytho-X: | apt is great |
| [01:44:00] | Mytho-X: | I guess I am just a liitle confused by the HDTV stuff and the mythtv setup options |
| [01:44:00] | Lepis: | any recs for a IR reciever and remote control? |
| [01:44:00] | Lepis: | I was thinking about MyBlaster |
| [01:44:00] | Lepis: | anyone using that |
| [01:45:00] | dhofstra: | Lepis: i built the homebrew reciever/transmitter .. works great but alot of trouble. I'd check your Myblaster in a search on the mailing list if I were you.. |
| [01:45:00] | dhofstra: | sounds like a worm to me .. he he he |
| [01:46:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: I use MyBlaster serial to control my Dish box, and the PVR-350 remote control. Works great. |
| [01:47:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: Solid for over a year. :) |
| [01:47:00] | dhofstra: | yup looks pretty darn nice.. |
| [01:47:00] | Lepis: | okay, cause right now all i want it to really do is just change the channel with normal analog cable |
| [01:47:00] | Lepis: | no dish box yet |
| [01:47:00] | dhofstra: | normal cable should switch channels on the tuner itself |
| [01:48:00] | Lepis: | oh it does, using the keyboard |
| [01:48:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: Can't speak to interoperability with your provider's box, of course. |
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| [01:48:00] | dhofstra: | (i.e. skip the box entirely) |
| [01:48:00] | Lepis: | but i would like to use a remote, and i have the happ 500 |
| [01:48:00] | Lepis: | yeah I will probably skip the box myself if i get digital cable |
| [01:48:00] | dhofstra: | ahh |
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| [01:48:00] | Lepis: | i could use the keyboard but i want to get this nice and streamlined for the wife |
| [01:48:00] | Lepis: | a simple little remote I think would go a long way |
| [01:49:00] | dhofstra: | that blaster looks nice.. what lirc driver does it use NightMonkey? just lirc_serial? |
| [01:49:00] | Lepis: | I apologize for not being more specific |
| [01:49:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: Can cofirm that, too. :) |
| [01:50:00] | Lepis: | I looked at getting that firefox remote and reciever |
| [01:50:00] | Lepis: | but didn't see anything that said it would operate with myth on myth site or lirc site |
| [01:50:00] | NightMonkey: | dhofstra: I don't use lirc at all for the MyBlaster. Just the serial drivers. |
| [01:50:00] | Lepis: | really interesting |
| [01:50:00] | dhofstra: | cool |
| [01:50:00] | NightMonkey: | dhofstra: I only use lirc with the 350's remote control. |
| [01:51:00] | Lepis: | so did you end up skipping the digital box alltogether? |
| [01:51:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: Talking to me? |
| [01:51:00] | Lepis: | yeah |
| [01:51:00] | dhofstra: | you would need a transmitter for the digital box, unless you could decrypt the digital channels. at least that is my understanding |
| [01:51:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: No, because I need it for movie channels. |
| [01:52:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: And I don't think I can bypass the Dish box for any channels, anyway – however, I never tried. |
| [01:52:00] | Lepis: | well i know that you can pick the basic stuff up to a certain # of channels |
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| [01:52:00] | Lepis: | but you don't get hte movie stuff |
| [01:52:00] | dhofstra: | you dont need the transmitter for analog cable because the tuner will change the channel for you.. but like you said you will need a reciever to use the remote. |
| [01:53:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: The controll script that the MyBlaster folks have (an opensource script) works great – no need to bypass. |
| [01:53:00] | Lepis: | okay |
| [01:53:00] | Lepis: | so when i get cable box |
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| [01:53:00] | Lepis: | ill need the myblaster to control both the dig box and the myth box |
| [01:54:00] | Lepis: | so instead of running the coax from digital box to TV, you run it to the mythbox, then send the output to the TV |
| [01:55:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: Hmm... Does the 500 not have it's own remote IR input? |
| [01:55:00] | Lepis: | the mce does |
| [01:55:00] | Lepis: | but i didn't buy that oen |
| [01:55:00] | Lepis: | shit let me look |
| [01:55:00] | Mytho-X: | mofu: thanks for the information and I would agree about Debian unstable |
| [01:55:00] | Lepis: | i thought it only did if you got the product with the remote |
| [01:56:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: Ah, someone else might answer that better than I. I never needed to use the MyBlaster for recieving, just sending. |
| [01:56:00] | Lepis: | hmm |
| [01:56:00] | Lepis: | so you just use the my blaster tochange the channel on the mythbox or the cable box |
| [01:56:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: And, since I have it taped right in front of the IR port on my dish box, it wouldn't work so good for that... ;) |
| [01:56:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: Exactly. |
| [01:56:00] | Lepis: | heheh |
| [01:56:00] | Lepis: | okay |
| [01:57:00] | Lepis: | all your doing is outputting the the digital signal to the mythbox |
| [01:57:00] | Lepis: | okay |
| [01:57:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: Right. |
| [01:57:00] | Lepis: | so will pip work with that? |
| [01:58:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: I should think that you *might* have some trouble, as the MyBlaster, in your case, must be positioned to be "seen" by both your remote control, and your cable box's IR port. |
| [01:58:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: I don't know offhand the field of view of the MyBlaster – let me check. |
| [01:58:00] | Lepis: | na i can look it up later |
| [01:59:00] | dhofstra: | does the Myblaster recieve signals? the one I see almost looks like a transmitter only |
| [01:59:00] | Lepis: | just trying to get the logic behind it |
| [02:00:00] | NightMonkey: | dhofstra is correct – it doesn't recieive, only send, as far as I can tell. |
| [02:01:00] | Lepis: | so since you only change the myth channel |
| [02:01:00] | NightMonkey: | So, Lepis, you'll need something else to recieve the remote control's input. Does your myth box have a IR port? |
| [02:02:00] | Lepis: | nope |
| [02:02:00] | Lepis: | im going to have to buy me a myblaster i think |
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| [02:02:00] | Lepis: | i just want to make sure that if i do |
| [02:03:00] | Lepis: | that when i do get a digital cable that everything will work okay |
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| [02:03:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: Hmm... that will only solve the cable box control issue. You'll still need something for your remote, if I understand correctly. |
| [02:03:00] | Lepis: | i thought that myblaster would take the signals from the RC and interpret them on the pc |
| [02:04:00] | Lepis: | or am i not understanding correctly |
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| [02:05:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: Nope, it will *send* signals to control your cable box. But, it doesn't recieve signals. |
| [02:06:00] | Lepis: | oh thats stupid |
| [02:06:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: You'll need some other method of controlling MythTV. Either a seperate remote control+connector, keyboard, etc. |
| [02:06:00] | Lepis: | okay i was way off |
| [02:06:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: No problem! :) |
| [02:06:00] | Lepis: | okay so would it be better to get the firefly reciever and RC |
| [02:06:00] | Lepis: | that will control myth |
| [02:07:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: Not familliar with that, sorry. |
| [02:07:00] | Lepis: | okay |
| [02:07:00] | NightMonkey: | (but someone else here must be...) |
| [02:07:00] | Lepis: | so explain your setup to me again |
| [02:07:00] | dhofstra: | the tira2 seems to be listed as a supported hardware for sending/recieving in lirc |
| [02:07:00] | dhofstra: | dunno first hand, though |
| [02:07:00] | Giuly: | hi, I've compiled the svn-trunk, but it blocks the "Watch TV"-button in the frontend. 0.18.1 works, so this is a version-relating problem IMHO |
| [02:07:00] | Lepis: | ill see what gos has to say |
| [02:08:00] | dhofstra: | err, oh, it looks like only recieve works for now .. sorry |
| [02:08:00] | Giuly: | or is there no support for watching tv done in the svn? |
| [02:08:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: OK. I have a dish box. That is controlled by MythTV via a MyBlaster IR sender, attached via serial. I also have a PVR-350, which has a remote control + IR reciever. That allows me to control MythTV. |
| [02:09:00] | Lepis: | okay |
| [02:09:00] | Lepis: | so when you change hte channel |
| [02:09:00] | Lepis: | it changes it on myth |
| [02:09:00] | Lepis: | and sends the signal to the dish box |
| [02:09:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: Yes. |
| [02:09:00] | ** Lepis *lightbulb* ** | |
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| [02:10:00] | Lepis: | oh okay |
| [02:10:00] | Lepis: | h |
| [02:10:00] | Lepis: | ha! |
| [02:10:00] | dhofstra: | on regular analog cable, you can plug the cable into your pvr tuner and it will change the channel for you whenever myth requests a channel change. If you have a sat box/digital cable/pay analog stations, you will want to have a IR transmitter that will send an IR signal to your box to change the channel whenever Myth requests a channel change. |
| [02:11:00] | Lepis: | right |
| [02:11:00] | NightMonkey: | Lepis: If I was watching LiveTV, it would go like this: 350's Remote -> 350's IR reciever -> lirc -> MythTV channel change -> MyBlaster serial control script -> MyBlaster serial -> Dish box. |
| [02:11:00] | Lepis: | hehehe |
| [02:11:00] | Lepis: | thats why i was so confused |
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| [02:13:00] | Lepis: | awesome well i will look into the tira |
| [02:13:00] | Lepis: | and get a remote control that will work with it |
| [02:13:00] | dhofstra: | no, i think tira is recieve only |
| [02:14:00] | Lepis: | http://www.home-electro.com./tira2.php#Top |
| [02:14:00] | dhofstra: | at least that is what thier website is saying right now.. you need to scour the mailing list to see what people are using for recieving/sending I dunno as I have stuck with homebrew |
| [02:14:00] | Lepis: | according to that it says trans and receive |
| [02:15:00] | dhofstra: | http://www.home-electro.com./tira2lx.php |
| [02:15:00] | dhofstra: | heh |
| [02:16:00] | dhofstra: | it can recieve and transmit, although it can only currenlty recieve in linux.. he he |
| [02:16:00] | Lepis: | life hates me |
| [02:16:00] | dhofstra: | LOL |
| [02:16:00] | Lepis: | so there really isn't a product out there that sends and recieves |
| [02:16:00] | Lepis: | it has to be homebrewed |
| [02:17:00] | dhofstra: | probably, but you should check into it on the mailing list, or check back here some other night if someone has a MCE remote working or something else |
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| [02:18:00] | dhofstra: | the homebrew works great, but is a pain to build if you dont know what you are doing, and installation is nearly impossible because packagers build lirc packages for receive only, and you have to compile a 2nd instance of lirc to have send and recieve functions. |
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| [02:19:00] | Dagmar: | lirc is downright hostile towards being packaged at all |
| [02:19:00] | dhofstra: | I have had a bear of a time installing it every time I upgrade. but it works fricking awesome! I suspect there is some package you can buy from one of these stores that sell myth stuff |
| [02:20:00] | Lepis: | okay |
| [02:20:00] | Lepis: | so wouldn't it be easier |
| [02:20:00] | Lepis: | to buy a reciever only for the pc |
| [02:20:00] | Lepis: | and get a remote control that is compatitable with both |
| [02:21:00] | Lepis: | only issue is having both listen |
| [02:21:00] | Lepis: | oh screw it |
| [02:21:00] | Lepis: | ill just use the damn keyboard |
| [02:22:00] | Lepis: | and myth as a vcr |
| [02:22:00] | xris: | Lepis: huh? most universal remotes usually have a "device" switch |
| [02:23:00] | Lepis: | yeah but then you have to change the "channel" twice |
| [02:23:00] | xris: | huh? |
| [02:23:00] | Lepis: | well woulnd't you have the change hte channel on the cable box |
| [02:23:00] | Lepis: | and myth |
| [02:23:00] | Lepis: | or am I retarded again |
| [02:23:00] | xris: | myth will change the cable box |
| [02:23:00] | dhofstra: | xris: Lepis wants a transmitter/receiver combo that works with lirc/myth/linux |
| [02:23:00] | xris: | irblaster.info |
| [02:24:00] | xris: | dhofstra: and apparently doesn't want to build one. |
| [02:24:00] | Lepis: | it would be a mess for me to build one |
| [02:24:00] | dhofstra: | heh. I built one, and it isnt that hard, but installing a homebrew transmitter/reciever in lirc has always been like pulling teeth |
| [02:24:00] | xris: | Lepis: well, I only know about irblaster.info for transmitter-only |
| [02:25:00] | Lepis: | thats fine |
| [02:25:00] | xris: | works like a charm, though (I have a homemade one) |
| [02:25:00] | Lepis: | hmm |
| [02:25:00] | Lepis: | the keyboard will be fine : |
| [02:25:00] | Lepis: | she will have to learn how to live with it |
| [02:25:00] | xris: | I just use a wireless keyboard. |
| [02:25:00] | xris: | or get an IR keyboard, and program your remote with the keyboard codes. |
| [02:25:00] | dhofstra: | some people have used an IR keyboard, and found codes on a universal remote to mimic the keyboard |
| [02:26:00] | Lepis: | okay well im stupid |
| [02:26:00] | mofu: | or program a JP1 remote . . . . |
| [02:26:00] | Lepis: | cause i don't understand how a cable box and myth work together |
| [02:26:00] | Lepis: | like a cable box from comcast or something |
| [02:26:00] | Lepis: | don't you have to change the channel on that cable box as well as on myth |
| [02:26:00] | Lepis: | or just on teh cable box |
| [02:26:00] | Lepis: | or just on myth |
| [02:26:00] | mofu: | the cable box just becomes and external tuner . |
| [02:27:00] | dhofstra: | myth would send the change channel command via the ir transmitter so you dont have to do it at 2:30 in the morning or whenever |
| [02:27:00] | Lepis: | right |
| [02:27:00] | Lepis: | lets imagine |
| [02:27:00] | Lepis: | that i don't want to mess with the ir stuff anymore |
| [02:27:00] | mofu: | or even better if your box has a working serial port . . . . |
| [02:27:00] | Lepis: | so all i got is a mythbox, a cable box, a keyboard, and a remote from comcast |
| [02:28:00] | Lepis: | i want to change the channel |
| [02:28:00] | mofu: | HD Digital Cable Box?? |
| [02:28:00] | Lepis: | lets just stick with Digital Cable box |
| [02:28:00] | mofu: | actually the HD box gives you more options |
| [02:28:00] | mofu: | you can change channel and capture over FireWire . . . . |
| [02:29:00] | Lepis: | well im just looking at standard stuff |
| [02:29:00] | Lepis: | cause i was under the assumption i could do 2 things |
| [02:29:00] | Lepis: | 1 by pass the cable box and just deal with the usual cable (no movie channels) |
| [02:29:00] | mofu: | you have the box, or is this theoretical?? |
| [02:29:00] | Lepis: | theoretical |
| [02:29:00] | dhofstra: | you want to change the channel on the digital cable box. When watching the digital cable box through myth, you want myth to be in control of changing the channels so you get the correct on screen guide info, and are able to setup recordings for when you are not there to set the channel for myth. |
| [02:30:00] | Lepis: | yes. |
| [02:30:00] | Lepis: | option 2 was go from cable box to myth to tv |
| [02:30:00] | Lepis: | using tv out and all that jazz |
| [02:31:00] | Lepis: | but i am missing the piece where under option 2 where i can record a movie off HBO without changing the channel on the cable box |
| [02:31:00] | mofu: | either is workable, to connect the cable box thru myth you need either a IR blaster, a serial cable, or Firewire cable |
| [02:31:00] | mofu: | you MUST GIVE MYTH CONTROL OF THE CABLE BOX! |
| [02:31:00] | Lepis: | okay |
| [02:31:00] | xris: | Lepis: firewire? |
| [02:31:00] | Lepis: | i do have firewire |
| [02:32:00] | xris: | I thought all digital cable was HD |
| [02:32:00] | dhofstra: | in option #2, myth would change the channel to HBO for you and record the movie over the svideo once the channel is changed |
| [02:32:00] | mofu: | get an HD box w/ Firewire |
| [02:32:00] | Lepis: | okay |
| [02:32:00] | Lepis: | and serial would work too |
| [02:32:00] | Lepis: | and lirc will allow the serial connection between the pc and the cable box to talk correct? |
| [02:32:00] | Lepis: | i pray that this is doc'd somewhere |
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| [02:33:00] | xris: | Lepis: you wouldn't need lirc |
| [02:33:00] | xris: | just a script to send signals out the serial port |
| [02:33:00] | mofu: | lirc is for IR blasters not direct serial port control |
| [02:33:00] | dhofstra: | if you can control the cable box via serial or firewire, then all you need is the ir reciever like http://www.irblaster.info/receiver.html and a universal remote |
| [02:33:00] | Lepis: | okay |
| [02:33:00] | mofu: | Lepis: really you need to go read the Doc's . . . . |
| [02:34:00] | Lepis: | and goss would probably have the script |
| [02:34:00] | dhofstra: | err.. oh unless your serial port is already being occupied by the serial control to the cable box.... oops |
| [02:35:00] | dhofstra: | after you mull around with the concept in your sleep, you will wake up with it all perfectly clear. |
| [02:35:00] | mofu: | not bloody likely |
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| [02:36:00] | Lepis: | no it makes sense now |
| [02:37:00] | Lepis: | thanks for talking me through it |
| [02:37:00] | Lepis: | i appriciate it |
| [02:38:00] | dhofstra: | http://innovationone.ca/products/commandir/ looks like it will be available in december.. |
| [02:39:00] | cosmo_: | anyone have bad experiences with tigerdirect? |
| [02:40:00] | dhofstra: | I've always had good experiences with them.. their reputation is bad, though. rebates are a little shaky is what I've heard |
| [02:47:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
| [02:48:00] | EnterUserName: | hey all |
| [02:49:00] | Chutt: | tigerdirect sucks. |
| [02:49:00] | Chutt: | their inventory system is completely separate from their website. |
| [02:49:00] | Chutt: | so, there's absolutely no relation between what they _say_ is in stock, and what actually is. |
| [02:50:00] | EnterUserName: | anyojne hre? |
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| [02:51:00] | kormoc: | EnterUserName, no, the people who have spoken while you were here are just irc bots. |
| [02:54:00] | EnterUserName: | well ij ust got here :) |
| [02:54:00] | EnterUserName: | Does anyone know when nuvexport will be compatible with mjpeg-tools 1.8.0? |
| [03:00:00] | jemarcks_: | ask xris |
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| [03:02:00] | jemarcks_: | mchou, howdy |
| [03:10:00] | NightMonkey: | EnterUserName: I suggest downgrading, until it nuvexport is upgraded to work with 1.8.0. :) |
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| [03:15:00] | NightMonkey: | Yay, ivtv 0.4.0 works great for me. (Just upgraded) |
| [03:18:00] | mofu: | nite all, |
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| [03:23:00] | Lobo_75025: | anyone seen the /myth filesystem say that its full when its not? |
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| [03:24:00] | Lobo_75025: | %%pwd |
| [03:24:00] | Lobo_75025: | sh-3.00$ touch test |
| [03:24:00] | Lobo_75025: | touch: cannot touch `test': No space left on device |
| [03:24:00] | Lobo_75025: | sh-3.00$ df . |
| [03:24:00] | Lobo_75025: | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| [03:25:00] | Lobo_75025: | "/dev/hda4 32781540 427944 32353596 2% /myth" |
| [03:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | out of inodes ? |
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| [03:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | out of inodes ? |
| [03:26:00] | NightMonkey: | Lobo_75025: df -i |
| [03:27:00] | Lobo_75025: | yep. out of inodes. |
| [03:27:00] | Lobo_75025: | WTF. |
| [03:27:00] | Lobo_75025: | "/dev/hda4 8032 8032 0 100% /myth" |
| [03:27:00] | Lobo_75025: | but the filesystem is 2% full |
| [03:27:00] | Lobo_75025: | how'd that happen? |
| [03:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | wow,.... 8k of inodes? That;s incredibly small |
| [03:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | My 500m root partition has 66k of them alone :) |
| [03:28:00] | NightMonkey: | Lobo_75025: Seems like an absurdly low total number of inodes. |
| [03:28:00] | NightMonkey: | doh, what GreyFoxx said. :) |
| [03:29:00] | Lobo_75025: | yeah.. my root partition has 274k of them and its 1/10th of the size. |
| [03:30:00] | Lobo_75025: | Never seen that before. |
| [03:31:00] | NightMonkey: | Lobo_75025: How'd you make the filesystem there? Which filesystem? |
| [03:31:00] | ** Lobo_75025 was silly to trust the KnoppMyth R5A22 auto partitioner. ** | |
| [03:31:00] | Lobo_75025: | its ext3 |
| [03:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe that's nuts |
| [03:31:00] | Lobo_75025: | normally, I'd make partitions for /,/var,/usr,and /home |
| [03:32:00] | NightMonkey: | Lobo_75025: Do you have enough space on another partition to copy the files off, remake the partition, and copy back? |
| [03:32:00] | NightMonkey: | (you might want to stop myth before doing this) |
| [03:33:00] | Lobo_75025: | yes. I've got a whole other 200G disk that is going to be /myth, but I wonder what happened that I only got 8k of inodes. |
| [03:33:00] | NightMonkey: | Lobo_75025: Fdisk Gone Wild(tm)? ;) |
| [03:33:00] | Lobo_75025: | lol |
| [03:34:00] | Lobo_75025: | df -i reminds of that sesame street song that goes "which one of these things is not like the others" |
| [03:35:00] | Lobo_75025: | err the output from df -i |
| [03:35:00] | NightMonkey: | Actually, sorry, fdisk wouldn't do that. More like "mkfs Gone Wild(tm)" But, now the joke is ruined. :/ |
| [03:36:00] | NightMonkey: | Lobo_75025: If you run mkfs, don't specifiy the inode count. The defualts should Just Work(tm). |
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| [03:37:00] | NightMonkey: | Lobo_75025: However... this is just my opinion... ext3 is pretty slow at deletes, so I use reiserfs. I've heard XFS is also quite quick. |
| [03:37:00] | NightMonkey: | Lobo_75025: So, you might end up with a net-gain from this occourance. :) |
| [03:38:00] | xanderp: | frontend only question for gentoo: I can't seem to find a mythfrontend only ebuild anymore. Do I really have to install full mythtv with mythbackend and mysql to just run a frontend on gentoo these days? |
| [03:38:00] | Lobo_75025: | I normally use reiserfs too, but I thought I read that Ext3 kicked its butt in large file deletes. |
| [03:38:00] | NightMonkey: | Lobo_75025: Not what I've heard, but perhaps others have differing opinion.s |
| [03:38:00] | Lobo_75025: | and my problem was that I stupidly trusted KnoppMyth Auto partition. |
| [03:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | xanderp: You would need at least the mysql client libraries. |
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| [03:39:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: It is now a USE flag. See "emerge -pv mythtv". |
| [03:39:00] | smoke_: | hey guys, can i get a link to the ithimus osd theme? |
| [03:39:00] | smoke_: | cant seem to pull it up on google |
| [03:39:00] | xanderp: | NightMonkey: will read... |
| [03:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | smoke_: It comes in the myththemes package |
| [03:39:00] | smoke_: | GreyFoxx, ah k |
| [03:39:00] | smoke_: | duh |
| [03:40:00] | simcop2387: | GAH!!!!! |
| [03:40:00] | NightMonkey: | indeed |
| [03:40:00] | simcop2387: | it cut off the end of a really good joke! |
| [03:40:00] | Lobo_75025: | from "http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-singl . . . atting" : he Reiser filesystem is another journaling filesystem commonly distributed with Linux. It is known to be an extremely efficient filesystem and it especially excels at managing partitions containing a large number of small files. However, tests indicate it is not the fastest at deleting very large files. For that reason, it may not be the |
| [03:40:00] | xanderp: | NightMonkey: All i'm seeing are the depends for mythtv... i don't see anything about a frontend only USE. should i just nano the .ebuild for it? |
| [03:40:00] | simcop2387: | fscking off by one minute channels! |
| [03:40:00] | Lobo_75025: | arge files. |
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| [03:41:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: [ebuild R ] media-tv/mythtv-0.18.1-r2 +alsa (-altivec) -arts -debug -dvb -frontendonly -ieee1394 -jack +joystick +lcd +lirc +mmx -nvidia +opengl +oss -unichrome +vorbis 0 kB |
| [03:41:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: Note the "-frontendonly". |
| [03:41:00] | xanderp: | i'm actually surprised that channels don't stagger their shows from each other by random amounts of time to make it harder to 'get into' shows that are on different channels... |
| [03:41:00] | NightMonkey: | Lobo_75025: Works For Me(tm) |
| [03:42:00] | xanderp: | NightMonkey: sweet, i wasn't reading those, just the depends... (need to open my eyes I guess, thanks!) |
| [03:42:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: No sweat. :) |
| [03:42:00] | xanderp: | is that a new'ish USE flag? |
| [03:42:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: Yep. |
| [03:43:00] | smoke_: | GreyFoxx, the Ithimus theme isnt included....off mythtv.org |
| [03:43:00] | smoke_: | GreyFoxx, am i getting the wrong tarball? |
| [03:43:00] | ** NightMonkey steps out for a burrito. ** | |
| [03:43:00] | xanderp: | i've just spend a couple of days beating lirc about the head and neck... (apparently it doesn't work on the latest kernel) |
| [03:44:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111820 |
| [03:44:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: I just got bit by the kernel mismatch, this fixed it. |
| [03:44:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: Kernel 2.6.14, that is. |
| [03:45:00] | simcop2387: | xanderp: dang didn't know that, i'm on the mailing list when was 2.6.14 released? |
| [03:45:00] | EnterUserName: | could someon give a message to the nuvexport developer? |
| [03:45:00] | xanderp: | NightMonkey: 2.6.14 wasn't working for me, even with the prerelease versions of lirc (0.8.x) |
| [03:45:00] | EnterUserName: | :) |
| [03:46:00] | Beirdo: | EnterUserName, you could yourself |
| [03:46:00] | EnterUserName: | oh |
| [03:46:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: Well, it Works For Me(tm), with that ebuild in the bug. |
| [03:46:00] | EnterUserName: | how? |
| [03:46:00] | ** EnterUserName wants to ask him to create a version for new mjpeg. ** | |
| [03:46:00] | Beirdo: | by talking to him |
| [03:46:00] | EnterUserName: | oh |
| [03:46:00] | ** Beirdo points at xris and runs ** | |
| [03:46:00] | ** EnterUserName grins ** | |
| [03:46:00] | EnterUserName: | hey xris :) |
| [03:47:00] | xanderp: | NightMonkey: when i tried that one, it would compile just fine, but no /dev/lirc or /dev/lirc/0 or /dev/lirc0 would show up. |
| [03:47:00] | EnterUserName: | You've created a brilliant program but i cant use it cuz suse uses the darn newest version of everything |
| [03:47:00] | Beirdo: | you might get to do the work and give him patches of course |
| [03:47:00] | EnterUserName: | which is a problem FOR almost eerything :) |
| [03:47:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: Did you load the module? |
| [03:47:00] | EnterUserName: | oh |
| [03:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | smoke_: Ahh. It was added after 0.18 |
| [03:47:00] | xanderp: | lirc_i2c |
| [03:47:00] | xanderp: | yup |
| [03:47:00] | xanderp: | and it pulled in lirc_dev |
| [03:47:00] | smoke_: | GreyFoxx, svn? |
| [03:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [03:47:00] | smoke_: | whats the addy i co? |
| [03:47:00] | EnterUserName: | xanderp: i had problems with my lirc_i2c crashing. if it matters |
| [03:47:00] | xanderp: | but nada for the /dev's |
| [03:48:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: Did you do a udevstart (if you didn't reboot)? |
| [03:48:00] | xanderp: | rebooted |
| [03:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | smoke go to http://svn.mythtv.org |
| [03:48:00] | xanderp: | (several times) |
| [03:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | It showsthe links to myththeme and all |
| [03:48:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: Did you set the right LIRC_OPTS for your setup? |
| [03:48:00] | xanderp: | i even checked for the udev.rules for it |
| [03:48:00] | smoke_: | ah i found the link |
| [03:48:00] | smoke_: | sweet thanks greyfoxx |
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| [03:48:00] | xanderp: | NightMonkey: yup... same ones i've always used.. for the pvrx50 |
| [03:48:00] | NightMonkey: | (before compiling, that is) |
| [03:49:00] | Lobo_75025: | NightMonkey: thanks. (again.) |
| [03:49:00] | Lobo_75025: | yar |
| [03:49:00] | xanderp: | and i had the -d for the correct /dev/lirc/0 |
| [03:49:00] | NightMonkey: | Lobo_75025: No problem. You can, of course, try XFS – I hear Great Things about it and myth. |
| [03:49:00] | xanderp: | so i'm back in 2.6.13 for the time being |
| [03:50:00] | Lobo_75025 (n=mythtv@c-24-1-60-180.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) Quit ("to move /myth to hdb") | |
| [03:50:00] | EnterUserName: | NightMonkey: is ext3 good for myth? |
| [03:50:00] | xanderp: | Lobo_75025: just don't use XFS for your / |
| [03:50:00] | NightMonkey: | gah |
| [03:51:00] | NightMonkey: | EnterUserName: I use reiserfs for everything. No problems. |
| [03:51:00] | NightMonkey: | OK, burrito calls. bbl. |
| [03:52:00] | xanderp: | i've got my / on ext3 and my videos on xfs... seems fine for me |
| [03:53:00] | xanderp: | odd, even with USE "+frontendonly -mysql ..."it still wants to compile mysql... |
| [03:54:00] | Beirdo: | umm, you need mysql to use myth |
| [03:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | xanderp: you must have at least the mysql client libraries installed |
| [03:54:00] | xanderp: | isn't there a separate build for just the client libraries? odd... |
| [03:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | not being a gentoo using I wouldn't know :) |
| [03:54:00] | Beirdo: | take that up with the distro :) |
| [03:55:00] | xanderp: | a little like having to install apache to surf the web... <grin> |
| [03:55:00] | EnterUserName: | ya |
| [03:56:00] | xanderp: | "all I wanted was a Pepsi..." "I'm sorry sir, but you will need to purchase the vending machine as well." (xanderp loves computers) |
| [03:57:00] | EnterUserName: | hey |
| [03:58:00] | EnterUserName: | does anyone find it wierd that my tv card works better on linux thenw indows/ |
| [03:59:00] | xanderp: | anyone heard any news about closed captions for pvrx50's getting fixed anytime soon? |
| [03:59:00] | xanderp: | that's the one thing that has plagued me since I started down this road... no [CC]. |
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| [04:01:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | in mysql, what is the command I need to set grants for user mythtv on 192.168.*.* and password mythtv? |
| [04:03:00] | xanderp: | mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"192.168.1.%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [04:03:00] | xanderp: | mysql> flush privileges; |
| [04:03:00] | xanderp: | edit for the 3rd octet |
| [04:03:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | sweet, thanks so much |
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| [04:03:00] | xris: | EnterUserName: I plan to fix the yuvdenoise thing this week. |
| [04:04:00] | xris: | can't really type much today... arm is in pain from other typing. |
| [04:04:00] | ** xanderp wished he had coding 'skillz' to fix closed captions ** | |
| [04:04:00] | EnterUserName: | oh kewl xris :) |
| [04:05:00] | EnterUserName: | the old firmware on ivtvs site is better then the new one on the cdrom |
| [04:05:00] | xanderp: | I love linux... |
| [04:06:00] | EnterUserName: | me too now |
| [04:06:00] | EnterUserName: | it works better with my card then windows |
| [04:06:00] | xanderp: | I was just thinking 'man, i wish i could keep the term window i'm compiling on top of my irc client, but keep the irc client full screen. (hehe) |
| [04:07:00] | ** xris will never understand transparent text windows ** | |
| [04:07:00] | kormoc: | xanderp, what window manager? |
| [04:07:00] | xanderp: | then I thought, man i wish i could just right click a window and say 'keep on top' so i tried it and, WHAT DO YOU KNOW!!! Gheese these guys think of everything! |
| [04:07:00] | kormoc: | heh |
| [04:07:00] | xanderp: | it's refreshing to think of a feature, and then to my surprise realize that it's ALREADY there!! :) |
| [04:08:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | one more question, how would I go about revoking a grant? |
| [04:08:00] | xanderp: | kormoc: i'm in kde |
| [04:08:00] | kormoc: | xanderp, I was gonna sudgest the keepon top :P |
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| [04:08:00] | a1fa|64: | hey |
| [04:08:00] | a1fa|64: | ivtv0 warning: ENC Stream 0 OVERFLOW #3506: Stealing a Buffer, 512 currently all ocated |
| [04:08:00] | a1fa|64: | wow |
| [04:09:00] | xanderp: | JoeyJoeJo: google for gentoo mythtv mysql... the first hit is a good one for setting up rights in mysql |
| [04:09:00] | a1fa|64: | this locks up everything. even ssh access to the box |
| [04:09:00] | a1fa|64: | i was watching abc |
| [04:09:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | ok, I'll check it out |
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| [04:11:00] | ** EnterUserName sighs ** | |
| [04:12:00] | EnterUserName: | stupid lirc protocol keeps crashing |
| [04:12:00] | ** EnterUserName will wiat for a kernel update ** | |
| [04:12:00] | xanderp: | EnterUserName: what ver or lirc? |
| [04:12:00] | ** xris wonders how a protocol crashes. ** | |
| [04:12:00] | EnterUserName: | erk |
| [04:12:00] | EnterUserName: | well not a protocol |
| [04:12:00] | xris: | ;) |
| [04:12:00] | EnterUserName: | but the module |
| [04:12:00] | xris: | ok, back to cooking. |
| [04:12:00] | ** EnterUserName grins at xris ** | |
| [04:13:00] | EnterUserName: | xanderp: i dunno whatever oen cam ewith suse |
| [04:13:00] | xanderp: | xris: political protocol can crash... they call it 'war' |
| [04:13:00] | EnterUserName: | i dont wanna recompile my kernel |
| [04:13:00] | EnterUserName: | i'm too tired |
| [04:13:00] | rjune: | xris: ask about the early SMB bits |
| [04:15:00] | EnterUserName: | wow |
| [04:16:00] | EnterUserName: | no more blurrs |
| [04:16:00] | EnterUserName: | buddy was right |
| [04:16:00] | EnterUserName: | stupid cdrom firmware sucks |
| [04:16:00] | xanderp: | emerge (1 of 7) .... 10 mins later... (1 of 7) <grunt> |
| [04:16:00] | EnterUserName: | xanderp: try compiling on a 667 mhz machien |
| [04:16:00] | EnterUserName: | and then talk tome about compiling time |
| [04:16:00] | ** EnterUserName grinz ** | |
| [04:16:00] | xanderp: | EnterUserName: this is a epiaM10000 supposed to be 1gz, but hrmmm |
| [04:17:00] | EnterUserName: | I really wish my remote control worked |
| [04:17:00] | xanderp: | i've tried to distcc, but they always seem to die mysterious deaths on the hodgepodge of distros/versions i'm running |
| [04:17:00] | EnterUserName: | then ic oudl sit on my bed and change the channel :) |
| [04:17:00] | xanderp: | EnterUserName: bluetooth |
| [04:18:00] | xanderp: | i can change the channel from outside the house! :P |
| [04:18:00] | ** EnterUserName laughs ** | |
| [04:18:00] | xanderp: | the best part is it's microsoft keyboard and mouse! |
| [04:19:00] | a1fa|64: | i have a problem with the chopy video |
| [04:19:00] | a1fa|64: | on lioe tv |
| [04:19:00] | a1fa|64: | live t |
| [04:19:00] | xanderp: | cpu underpowered? |
| [04:20:00] | xanderp: | (1 of 7) |
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| [04:20:00] | EnterUserName: | a1fa try using the firmware off there site |
| [04:20:00] | EnterUserName: | ivtvs site |
| [04:20:00] | ** xanderp is spoiled by compile times on his amd64 ** | |
| [04:20:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa: Your ENC ivtv problem is sometimes cause by PCI bus contention (log files filling up fast; lots of disk activity, et.c) |
| [04:21:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa: But, it is often a symptom of other issues. |
| [04:21:00] | xanderp: | IRQ issues can cause problems too (multiple high demand devices sharing an IRQ) |
| [04:22:00] | a1fa|64: | i have 1.3ghz |
| [04:22:00] | a1fa|64: | cpu.. |
| [04:22:00] | NightMonkey: | I had a problem where a mysql problem caused a ton of logging, but it manifested in that error from ivtv. |
| [04:22:00] | xanderp: | i've seen remarkable diffs on a machine by just moving a card over to a different slot because of irq contention |
| [04:22:00] | a1fa|64: | let me paste my lspci |
| [04:22:00] | NightMonkey: | nonono |
| [04:23:00] | NightMonkey: | Use pastebin |
| [04:23:00] | a1fa|64: | http://pastebin.ca/28980 |
| [04:23:00] | xanderp: | pastebin |
| [04:23:00] | a1fa|64: | ? |
| [04:23:00] | NightMonkey: | heh |
| [04:23:00] | a1fa|64: | n00bs :P |
| [04:23:00] | xanderp: | ahh |
| [04:23:00] | NightMonkey: | You read my mind. |
| [04:23:00] | a1fa|64: | for sure for sure |
| [04:24:00] | a1fa|64: | lol |
| [04:24:00] | a1fa|64: | my cat is looking at me |
| [04:24:00] | a1fa|64: | through the blinds... freaky |
| [04:24:00] | a1fa|64: | i just whooped that ass |
| [04:24:00] | a1fa|64: | i have the newest bios drivers |
| [04:24:00] | xanderp: | older mobo? (I see usb1.1) |
| [04:25:00] | a1fa|64: | yeah |
| [04:25:00] | a1fa|64: | 0000:00:11.1 0000:00:11.2 0000:00:11.3 .. 0000:00:11.n this scares me |
| [04:25:00] | xanderp: | u using the usb? |
| [04:25:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa: What version of ivtv? |
| [04:25:00] | a1fa|64: | 0.4.0 |
| [04:25:00] | a1fa|64: | the newst one |
| [04:26:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa: What kernel? |
| [04:26:00] | a1fa|64: | i am using usb for streamzap remote |
| [04:26:00] | xanderp: | ahh |
| [04:26:00] | a1fa|64: | 2.6.8–2k7 |
| [04:26:00] | xanderp: | DMA on the hd? |
| [04:26:00] | a1fa|64: | yup |
| [04:27:00] | xanderp: | filesystem the ringbuffer sits on? |
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| [04:28:00] | dcstimm: | hey guys, I just got the Nokia 770, which is an internet tablet based on linux, could someone help me think of a way to make it a remote for mythtv? |
| [04:28:00] | a1fa|64: | ext3 |
| [04:28:00] | a1fa|64: | dcstimm: lucky bastard.. u can use vnc |
| [04:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | dcts: Sure, send me one and I'll write something for it :) |
| [04:28:00] | a1fa|64: | how much did you pay for that |
| [04:28:00] | xanderp: | dang... uhh which direction does your tv face? (buying time to think of other good questions) |
| [04:29:00] | dcstimm: | a1fa|64, its nice |
| [04:29:00] | dcstimm: | $309 |
| [04:29:00] | a1fa|64: | wow |
| [04:29:00] | Agrajag-: | i seem to vaguely remember someone writing some web interface remote? |
| [04:29:00] | kormoc: | dcstimm, why use it as a remote, use it as a frontend |
| [04:29:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Any errors before the ENC trouble was logged? |
| [04:29:00] | dcstimm: | there is a cheat to get $50 dollars off nokia's website when you buy it |
| [04:29:00] | xanderp: | Agrajag-: I saw that too |
| [04:29:00] | dcstimm: | kormoc, true, I was thinking the same thing |
| [04:30:00] | a1fa|64: | NightMonkey: not that i can tell atm |
| [04:30:00] | dcstimm: | kormoc, we would have to port mythfrontend, or make it boot a real distro |
| [04:30:00] | a1fa|64: | hda: DMA timeout error |
| [04:30:00] | a1fa|64: | hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } |
| [04:30:00] | dcstimm: | kormoc, it is based on gtk (the frontend) |
| [04:30:00] | dcstimm: | for the 770 |
| [04:30:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Ah, a disk problem? |
| [04:30:00] | a1fa|64: | brand new disk |
| [04:30:00] | a1fa|64: | highly doubtful |
| [04:31:00] | xanderp: | dma settings wrong? |
| [04:31:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: I've seen new disks fail... |
| [04:31:00] | kormoc: | dcstimm, can't run qt apps? seems a bit... uhh... restrictive |
| [04:31:00] | a1fa|64: | dma settings in bios? |
| [04:31:00] | xanderp: | in linux |
| [04:31:00] | a1fa|64: | it is set to auto |
| [04:31:00] | dcstimm: | kormoc, well you can you just have to port qt |
| [04:31:00] | a1fa|64: | hdparm -d1 /dev/hda in linux |
| [04:31:00] | dcstimm: | kormoc, compile it for arm |
| [04:31:00] | kormoc: | dcstimm, port or compile? |
| [04:31:00] | dcstimm: | compile |
| [04:31:00] | kormoc: | there's a big difference and you know someone will |
| [04:31:00] | dcstimm: | kormoc, it uses x11 |
| [04:32:00] | xanderp: | I saw a command to test various dma parameters.. just don't rem what it was... |
| [04:32:00] | dcstimm: | kormoc, only thing I see as a downside to the device is it only has 128mb internal memory for the OS |
| [04:32:00] | dcstimm: | kormoc, of course it does support mmc cards |
| [04:32:00] | Agrajag-: | dcstimm: http://studwww.ugent.be/~aveys/mythwifi/ |
| [04:32:00] | NightMonkey: | hdparm -a /dev/hda |
| [04:32:00] | dcstimm: | Agrajag-, thanks! |
| [04:32:00] | Agrajag-: | dcstimm: dunno if that's the kind of theng you're after |
| [04:32:00] | a1fa|64: | readahead = 256 (on) |
| [04:33:00] | Agrajag-: | how on earth did i just do that typo |
| [04:33:00] | Agrajag-: | i isn't anywhere near e |
| [04:33:00] | xanderp: | e sounds a little like i |
| [04:33:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: hdparm -i /dev/hda |
| [04:33:00] | dcstimm: | Agrajag-, yes it is |
| [04:33:00] | Agrajag-: | maybe if you're from new zealand it does |
| [04:33:00] | a1fa|64: | http://pastebin.ca/28981 |
| [04:34:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: smartctl -a /dev/hda |
| [04:35:00] | a1fa|64: | dont have that |
| [04:35:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: That will tell you about any failures that the drive has logged. |
| [04:35:00] | a1fa|64: | one minute |
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| [04:35:00] | xanderp: | if this turns out to actually be a dma problem i'm gonna buy myself a shot of scotch (or just drink one anyway...) |
| [04:36:00] | a1fa|64: | http://pastebin.ca/28982 |
| [04:36:00] | a1fa|64: | there |
| [04:36:00] | Krazylegz: | xanderp: Make it a double. |
| [04:36:00] | Krazylegz: | Straight up. |
| [04:36:00] | a1fa|64: | No errors |
| [04:36:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Well, that elimiates drive issues :) |
| [04:37:00] | xanderp: | Krazylegz: I like the way you think. |
| [04:37:00] | xanderp: | i'm drinking anyway! |
| [04:37:00] | NightMonkey: | Oh, and just leave the bottle. |
| [04:37:00] | a1fa|64: | fsck |
| [04:37:00] | a1fa|64: | i dont know whats going on any more |
| [04:38:00] | a1fa|64: | why is it reporting errors tho |
| [04:38:00] | xanderp: | what about turning off dma and see where that gets you? |
| [04:38:00] | a1fa|64: | nah |
| [04:38:00] | a1fa|64: | i am just going to update kernel |
| [04:38:00] | a1fa|64: | somebody was telling me i should upgrade it |
| [04:39:00] | EFS: | Does anyone know if its possible to get a the backend to decode the video stream and forward a raw stream to the frontend? |
| [04:39:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Like I was saying, logging gone crazy can trigger it. If your messages is getting filled with these, that can cause an infinite loop of "errors logged->causes contention->errors logged->..." etc. |
| [04:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | EFS: It is not |
| [04:39:00] | xanderp: | i could always trade you for a REALLY old 20 gig that i've got lying in the basement... |
| [04:40:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: You could try to send all ivtv errors to /dev/null. |
| [04:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | EFS: And the bandwidth requirements would suck |
| [04:40:00] | a1fa|64: | how? |
| [04:40:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: With syslog. I use syslog-ng. |
| [04:40:00] | a1fa|64: | i am going to send all kernel logging into /dev/null |
| [04:40:00] | EFS: | GreyFox: Thanks. Bandwidth would suck, but 100MBit Ethernet should be sufficient. |
| [04:41:00] | NightMonkey: | a1fa|64: Well, actually, you should just try to head off ivtv ENC errors, or you won't know what is going on at all... |
| [04:42:00] | EFS: | Another question. Has anyone else had problems with binary files checked out from mythtv's subversion. A bunch of pngs I checked out were corrupt. The subversion flags were incorrect. |
| [04:43:00] | xanderp: | i'm surprised that there aren't USB only kvm's that use only USB ports to deliver video+audio+keyboard+mouse with one 'double USB' cable between the CPU and the kvm. |
| [04:43:00] | xanderp: | it would make for SUCH a better wiring run |
| [04:44:00] | xanderp: | (come on, someone paste a link to exactly what i've just described and prove me wrong... so i can go buy one!!!) |
| [04:45:00] | EFS: | xanderp: It's USB. It would be even cooler if the KVM was a hub. Two ports in (keyboard + mouse), X ports, one per computer. Only would need one cable back to the CPU :-) |
| [04:46:00] | xanderp: | i was looking at 2 to each cpu for the added bandwidth for better video |
| [04:46:00] | a1fa|64: | thanks guys |
| [04:46:00] | a1fa|64: | gottza go to sleep |
| [04:46:00] | a1fa|64: | ttyl |
| [04:46:00] | EFS: | xanderp: ah. |
| [04:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | EFS: I haven't noticed any corrupt files, but I could just not be using anything that display those. Which files ? |
| [04:47:00] | EFS: | GreyFoxx: I noticed it first in mythweb, all of the png "icons" displayed as errors. "file" showed them as corrupted PNGs. |
| [04:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I haven't updated mythweb in a couple weeks. Wonder if the icons have been updated since |
| [04:48:00] | EFS: | GreyFoxx: I checked them out again (0.18.1 branch), same problem. I grabbed them from the tar.gz and they were fine. |
| [04:49:00] | EFS: | GreyFoxx: I think I noticed some in mythtv as well. Yep. Bunches. For example: themes/default/scrollarrow-dn.png: PNG image data, CORRUPTED, |
| [04:50:00] | EFS: | GreyFoxx: Within mythtv, I have 167 listed as corrupted, 147 listed as good. |
| [04:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | that doesn't show up Corrupt for me. I also just did an svn update and it's still fine |
| [04:50:00] | EFS: | GreyFoxx: Those that are corrupt appear to have the svn properties snv:keywords and svn:eol-sytle set. Those that aren't have svn:mime-type set. |
| [04:51:00] | EFS: | EFS: If I do a diff between the ones I checkout and the ones in the tar.gz, they are different. It looks like svn is corrupting the PNGs (might extend to other binary files as well). |
| [04:51:00] | ** xanderp converted an LCD into a projector, wonders if lcd 3D shutter glasses would work on the projected image (10 foot diagonal 3D video games) ** | |
| [04:52:00] | a1fa|64: | how did you convert LCD into projector? |
| [04:52:00] | xanderp: | www.lumenlab.com |
| [04:53:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: Dunno if this is what you mean? http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.pr . . . ct_Id=160570 |
| [04:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | a1fa: there are many different projects/sites on homemade projectors with old LC Dscreens and overhead projectors or custom made light boxes |
| [04:53:00] | xanderp: | NightMonkey: good searching, but i was looking to NOT have any vga, audio or ps2 cables, ONLY USB. that would rock. |
| [04:53:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: That's mine, works great. 1600x1200@85Hz. |
| [04:54:00] | NightMonkey: | oh. Ok. |
| [04:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | EFS: I just did a fresh co and nthat specific image is still not showing as corrupt here |
| [04:54:00] | a1fa|64: | lol |
| [04:54:00] | a1fa|64: | u have to pay money :P |
| [04:54:00] | xanderp: | mainly looking for usb only solution to clean up my datacenter at work... those kvm cords are a nighmare |
| [04:54:00] | a1fa|64: | you mean like LCD monitor |
| [04:55:00] | a1fa|64: | we use ethernet kvm |
| [04:55:00] | a1fa|64: | it is nice |
| [04:55:00] | k-man__: | oh, i have one of those belking kvms |
| [04:55:00] | xanderp: | a1fa|64: i paid the money not for the plans (which were only adequate) but to gain access to the braintrust of protected user forums on the site of people that have built them... there are some wicked smart people in there... |
| [04:55:00] | NightMonkey: | All Hail the BelKing :) |
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| [04:57:00] | EFS: | GreyFoxx: Hmmm. Something weird is happening then. I just did a checkout and got the same corrupted results. (host is a AMD64 running Debian64). |
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| [04:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just did it on my slave as well, and nothing corrupt there |
| [04:58:00] | xanderp: | dell has a remote management card that is basically a hardware vnc server you plug into a pci slot. kinda kewl... lets you work on bios screens remotely |
| [04:58:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: Well, they do offer "single" cables, with VGA/USB ends, but I know that's not what you are looking for... |
| [04:58:00] | a1fa|64: | xanderp: are you using the actuall LCD display from a laptop or something? |
| [04:58:00] | a1fa|64: | i got an old lcd screen |
| [04:58:00] | a1fa|64: | just laying around |
| [04:58:00] | xanderp: | not laptop, they don't have separate lcd drivers (mobo's) |
| [04:59:00] | a1fa|64: | ok |
| [04:59:00] | xanderp: | just an adequately cheap monitor, the better the specs on the monitor, the better the projected image. and oddly, the smaller the lcd=good because the smaller your projector (but you have to pay $$$ for high res small lcd's.) |
| [05:00:00] | a1fa|64: | oh wow |
| [05:00:00] | a1fa|64: | this looks very interesting |
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| [05:01:00] | xanderp: | my projector is fairly cheap, but the real advantage is down the road. my bulb lasts 8–10 years and is 45 bucks. standard lcd bulbs last about a year and cost like 200–400 bucks. |
| [05:01:00] | a1fa|64: | where did you buy your lenses |
| [05:01:00] | xanderp: | through the site. the guy has them custom made in china to the specs of the design, and fairly cheap |
| [05:01:00] | Chutt: | standard lcd bulbs last about 3 years now. |
| [05:02:00] | Chutt: | which is the point other stuff's going to start breaking, too. |
| [05:02:00] | EFS: | GreyFoxx: Even stranger, I just went to an alternate system, SuSE 9.3 running on an Intelx86 and got the same results. My checkout command was: |
| [05:02:00] | xanderp: | Chutt: 3 years of nighly movies? or 3 years in 'corporate' setting? |
| [05:02:00] | EFS: | GreyFoxx: svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/tags/release-0-18-1 . . . emes/default |
| [05:02:00] | Chutt: | 3 years as in 3000 hours |
| [05:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | EFS: Ok, I'm NOT checking out the old 0.18 trunk. I'm checking out the latest SVN |
| [05:03:00] | Chutt: | as in, yes, nightly movies :p |
| [05:03:00] | xanderp: | ahh |
| [05:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 0.18 stuff I checked was from atarbal |
| [05:03:00] | xanderp: | still pretty expensive tho |
| [05:03:00] | Chutt: | sure |
| [05:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | hell, you would have to watch 8+ hours a day to burn out "new" bulb in a year |
| [05:03:00] | EFS: | GreyFoxx: They are correct in the tarballs for me as well. Only corrupt when I get them from subversion. |
| [05:04:00] | Chutt: | my projector bulb is $350, i think |
| [05:04:00] | xanderp: | but storebought is better if you want a small pretty case and not to have to 'tinker' to get it right |
| [05:04:00] | Chutt: | but i'm certainly not going to buy a new one |
| [05:04:00] | a1fa|64: | i think i will make this LCD projector |
| [05:04:00] | EFS: | GreyFoxx: Just checked head, they look correct there. Someone must have already noticed and fixed it. Sucks the branch is broke though. |
| [05:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | EFS: Could very well be something corrupt in the tages 0.18 |
| [05:04:00] | Chutt: | time it burns out, 1080p will be available. |
| [05:04:00] | Chutt: | well, cheap & available. |
| [05:04:00] | a1fa|64: | much cheaper then buying a new tv |
| [05:04:00] | a1fa|64: | ;P |
| [05:04:00] | xanderp: | the bad thing about the bulbs tho is that they go 'off color' waaay before they burn out |
| [05:04:00] | EFS: | GreyFoxx: Thanks for answering my questions. Its past my bedtime, night. |
| [05:04:00] | a1fa|64: | can you just buy one of that site and stick your monitor in there? |
| [05:05:00] | Chutt: | xanderp, mine's pretty good still :p |
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| [05:05:00] | Chutt: | 1100 hours on it, so far |
| [05:05:00] | Chutt: | i measured it a few months back |
| [05:05:00] | Chutt: | it's certainly not as bright as it used to be, but, <shrug> |
| [05:05:00] | xanderp: | Chutt: yup, they actually age in a bell'ish curve, they get better, then worse. |
| [05:06:00] | a1fa|64: | xanderp: .. |
| [05:06:00] | xanderp: | there's an initial 'burn in' to get the colors right |
| [05:06:00] | xanderp: | a1fa|64: sorry, uhh i don't get the q |
| [05:07:00] | EnterUserName: | how do you enable dma on sata drives ?: p |
| [05:07:00] | EnterUserName: | or do you not need to? |
| [05:07:00] | xanderp: | a1fa|64: oh, there are some guys that sell their cases, if that's what you mean |
| [05:07:00] | a1fa|64: | yeah |
| [05:08:00] | xanderp: | a1fa|64: and a pretty good 'trading up' used projector market on there as well. (people made one, now want to make one that is "better, faster, smaller, quieter, etc... etc...") |
| [05:09:00] | xanderp: | the guys at work thought i was a kook until they came over, then they all were like, 'uh, you're going to help me make one of those right?' |
| [05:09:00] | NightMonkey: | Wow, lumenlab has me drooling. What did you guys use as a case? |
| [05:10:00] | xanderp: | i built mine from MDF, but they make them out of all kinds of stuff... one guy made his into a coffee table |
| [05:10:00] | xanderp: | the really nice designs use a folded light path to make the unit smaller |
| [05:10:00] | xanderp: | mythtv on a lumenlab projector... (once my basement is finished) |
| [05:11:00] | a1fa|64: | wow |
| [05:11:00] | a1fa|64: | i cant even imagine having it on DVI |
| [05:11:00] | NightMonkey: | <ignorance>Is there an adjustment that can compensate from a low projection angle?</ignorance> |
| [05:11:00] | NightMonkey: | from=for |
| [05:11:00] | a1fa|64: | same question.. i think the lense |
| [05:11:00] | a1fa|64: | can do that |
| [05:11:00] | xanderp: | oh, and the photos don't do the actual projected image justice. I was worried until i actually made one... then i was like WOW!!! and even the wife thinks it is awesome |
| [05:11:00] | a1fa|64: | my wall is like 9 feet apart |
| [05:12:00] | xanderp: | NightMonkey: yes, it does keystoneing |
| [05:12:00] | a1fa|64: | making the wife happy is very important |
| [05:12:00] | NightMonkey: | Wow. The mind reels. |
| [05:12:00] | Chutt: | i like how the faq for 'what's the difference between this and real projector' only meantions the price of the bulb. |
| [05:12:00] | xanderp: | you just put the front lense on a pivotable mount, I let gravity center the front lense to make the keystone right |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa|64: | i just want to buy the case |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa|64: | and put my lcd in there |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa|64: | what would be a good lcd for this |
| [05:13:00] | xanderp: | Chutt: yup... there's a bit of a blind spot, like 'having to build a pretty big box, and all the handyman stuff to make it work' that they don't mention, but overall it was a really good project |
| [05:14:00] | Dagmar: | Chutt: The price of the bulb is all it takes to make most people run away yelping |
| [05:14:00] | xanderp: | a1fa|64: there's a bunch, but the big thing is to make sure that the one you get when you strip it down doesn't have issues with the mobo of it being in the way of the light. |
| [05:14:00] | Chutt: | not really |
| [05:14:00] | Chutt: | the fact that you need light control is. |
| [05:15:00] | Dagmar: | I dunno man. You tell most people that the bulbs cost about as much as the unit, and that you're going to be buying them twice a year if you're *lucky*... |
| [05:15:00] | Dagmar: | ...They start reconsidering a projector entirely most of the time. |
| [05:15:00] | xanderp: | i've built mine for about 300 bucks. good xga projectors have been much more for xga. (haven't checked in a while) |
| [05:15:00] | NightMonkey: | Chutt: <ignorance>What kind of light control?</ignorance> |
| [05:16:00] | Chutt: | twice a year? |
| [05:16:00] | Chutt: | as much as the unit? |
| [05:16:00] | xanderp: | and try to find a cheap 1600x1200 projector... I DARE you <grin> |
| [05:17:00] | Chutt: | 1080p's down to 7k already |
| [05:17:00] | Chutt: | from 30 last year. |
| [05:17:00] | xanderp: | it's definitely NOT a commercial projector with the finished polish and controls that you can purchase, but gets the price of a 'very good' unit down to where i could justify making the leap |
| [05:18:00] | xanderp: | how much does a 1600x1200 monitor cost, plus about 100 bucks in lenses and wood? |
| [05:18:00] | a1fa|64: | not bad |
| [05:18:00] | a1fa|64: | cheap |
| [05:18:00] | NightMonkey: | Hmm... perhaps a Potentiometer-style control? |
| [05:19:00] | xanderp: | ouch, the new lenses are 250?!!? |
| [05:19:00] | a1fa|64: | xanderp: 15" or more? |
| [05:19:00] | Chutt: | yeah, but a cheap 1600x1200 monitor's going to have shit for a contrast ratio |
| [05:19:00] | a1fa|64: | then dont buy a cheap one |
| [05:19:00] | a1fa|64: | easy |
| [05:19:00] | xanderp: | that's the thing you have to watch, contrast as well as refresh |
| [05:19:00] | a1fa|64: | still much cheaper than a real projector |
| [05:19:00] | a1fa|64: | xanderp: 15" or more? |
| [05:20:00] | Chutt: | show me a lcd monitor with 3000:1 contrast ratios :p |
| [05:20:00] | xanderp: | must be over 600:1 contrast, and lower that 13–15ms refresh or your pic will be sucky |
| [05:20:00] | xanderp: | Chutt: i rarely watch zebras in snowstorms... |
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| [05:21:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [05:21:00] | xanderp: | a1fa|64: the smaller the size that has great specs the better |
| [05:21:00] | Chutt: | any crime drama :p |
| [05:21:00] | a1fa|64: | so 15" |
| [05:21:00] | Dagmar: | I prefer not to have to watch TV in the dark |
| [05:22:00] | a1fa|64: | it will work during the daylight |
| [05:22:00] | xanderp: | i adjust my contrast and the 'blacks' not being 'black' are pulled ALOT from the fact that I don't have one of those sexy new black projector screens |
| [05:22:00] | a1fa|64: | hater |
| [05:22:00] | Chutt: | you need a special bulb for those, and they're not even available, iirc |
| [05:22:00] | xanderp: | they did look sexy tough didn't they? |
| [05:23:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
| [05:23:00] | xanderp: | tough=xanderism for though |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa|64: | i dont know if i should buy a 52" plasma or build this |
| [05:23:00] | xanderp: | my father in law is a tvrepair guy and he warned me not to buy plasma |
| [05:24:00] | a1fa|64: | what happens if there is light in the room |
| [05:24:00] | a1fa|64: | can u stil watch tv? |
| [05:24:00] | xanderp: | there's still an issue with them dying early deaths and the plasma tube is the bulk of the cost of the unit. |
| [05:24:00] | Dagmar: | And they're delicate |
| [05:24:00] | xanderp: | a1fa|64: there are examples of various lighting rooms on the site. |
| [05:24:00] | a1fa|64: | xanderp: can u watch tv with daylight |
| [05:25:00] | xanderp: | a1fa|64: it's not as bad as the projected images in several local restaurants i go to.. |
| [05:25:00] | xanderp: | but they have ALOT of light, and my house isn't that bright |
| [05:26:00] | xanderp: | my projector lives in my media room in the basement... so it's pitch black other than the projector. (7.1 surround sound too ;) |
| [05:27:00] | Agrajag-: | "a lot" is 2 words |
| [05:27:00] | xanderp: | several people watch them in their house with the windows open, but drawing the curtains certainly helps make the picture better |
| [05:27:00] | xanderp: | Agrajag-: thanks |
| [05:27:00] | xanderp: | ;) |
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| [05:28:00] | xanderp: | oh, and there's no substitute to playing FPS games on a 10' diagonal screen (the wife gets motion sick) |
| [05:29:00] | Dagmar: | yes there is |
| [05:30:00] | xanderp: | VR? |
| [05:30:00] | Dagmar: | ...and if you really had a wife you'd know about it. ;) |
| [05:30:00] | a1fa|64: | pron :P |
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| [05:31:00] | xanderp: | Dagmar: hehe... she's asleep upstairs now. And my comment was 'FPS gaming' restricted. (sorry, didn't specify) |
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| [05:31:00] | Dagmar: | heheh |
| [05:31:00] | a1fa|64: | cs: source |
| [05:31:00] | a1fa|64: | would rock |
| [05:32:00] | a1fa|64: | you can snipe people with awp w/o zooming in |
| [05:32:00] | xanderp: | the first thing on my projector was 'winnie the pooh' for my daughter... she didn't want to let me turn it off... (she's 4) |
| [05:32:00] | xanderp: | crap, i'm still on ebuild (1 of 7)... mysql takes FOREVER! |
| [05:32:00] | a1fa|64: | hehe cute |
| [05:33:00] | a1fa|64: | sucka |
| [05:33:00] | xanderp: | i'm definitely a sucka for her.. she has me wrapped around her little finger. (daddy's girl) |
| [05:33:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: Do you have more than one PC? |
| [05:33:00] | xanderp: | about 10 |
| [05:34:00] | NightMonkey: | xanderp: Have distcc & ccache set up? |
| [05:34:00] | a1fa|64: | jahaha :P |
| [05:34:00] | xanderp: | but only 3 with myth. disctt kept crapping out on me because they are all different distros at different gcc levels etc... and i've never taken the time to fix |
| [05:34:00] | xanderp: | oops distcc |
| [05:35:00] | xanderp: | i even tried using cygwin cross compiling disctt on my wifes machines... <grin> |
| [05:35:00] | xanderp: | damn, i can't type... time for bed! |
| [05:37:00] | xanderp: | well, i'm in here often, if anyone makes a projector and wants to talk about it, give me a yell... (i'm in here a lot because i break my myth box a lot!!!) |
| [05:37:00] | xanderp: | night all, and thanks for the chat/help |
| [05:37:00] | a1fa|64: | :P |
| [05:37:00] | a1fa|64: | xanderp: i will build one |
| [05:38:00] | xanderp: | the kit seems the way to go now... i wish they had those when i built mine |
| [05:38:00] | xanderp: | i'm even using the older style bulb |
| [05:38:00] | a1fa|64: | same url> |
| [05:38:00] | a1fa|64: | they sel the wood as well? |
| [05:38:00] | xanderp: | just the guts |
| [05:38:00] | xanderp: | - the lcd |
| [05:38:00] | a1fa|64: | thats fine |
| [05:39:00] | xanderp: | l8r all |
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| [05:40:00] | Gumby: | whats the url you guys are looking at? |
| [05:42:00] | Agrajag-: | for the projectors? |
| [05:42:00] | Gumby: | ywah |
| [05:42:00] | Agrajag-: | i think http://www.lumenlab.com/ |
| [05:42:00] | Gumby: | ty |
| [05:42:00] | Agrajag-: | which you have to pay for to get the info i think |
| [05:43:00] | Gumby: | hrm, I have seen some free tutorials online |
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| [05:47:00] | rlippmann: | hi all, anyone else having problems recently with alsa? |
| [05:47:00] | rlippmann: | i think 1.0.10 might have broken some things... |
| [05:47:00] | Gumby: | http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20041113/ |
| [05:47:00] | Gumby: | free howto there |
| [05:48:00] | rlippmann: | worked up until yesterday, now getting snd_pcm_open errors... |
| [05:48:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah i think these lumenlab ones are a bit snazzier or something. no idea |
| [05:49:00] | NightMonkey: | rlippmann: 1.0.8 Works For Me(tm). |
| [05:51:00] | rlippmann: | i was using 1.0.9, worked fine, my yum cache shows that it upgraded to 1.0.10 |
| [05:51:00] | rlippmann: | but i also upgraded my kernel slightly in FC3 |
| [05:52:00] | Cardoe: | wow |
| [05:52:00] | Cardoe: | my pvr150 looks like ASS |
| [05:52:00] | Cardoe: | compared to the pvr250 |
| [05:52:00] | NightMonkey: | rlippmann: Did you do a new run of alsaconf? |
| [05:53:00] | rlippmann: | no |
| [05:53:00] | rlippmann: | trying now |
| [05:54:00] | rlippmann: | could play with xine, though... |
| [05:55:00] | rlippmann: | xine's still good after alsaconf... |
| [05:55:00] | NightMonkey: | ? |
| [05:55:00] | rlippmann: | can still hear stuff. |
| [05:56:00] | rlippmann: | xine still reporting invalid snd_pcm_open() invalid argument problem... |
| [05:56:00] | rlippmann: | sorry, just doc'ing what i'm doing as i go since this channel is logged and might help others... |
| [05:57:00] | rlippmann: | nope, mythtv is still complaining about lack of sound.... |
| [05:58:00] | NightMonkey: | rlippmann: Did you reload the modules? |
| [05:58:00] | rlippmann: | no, i'll try that... |
| [05:59:00] | rlippmann: | wow, there's a lot of them, might just be easier to reboot |
| [06:00:00] | rlippmann: | they're in use, brb, gotta reboot |
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| [06:05:00] | rlippmann: | nope, myth still unhappy :( |
| [06:08:00] | rlippmann: | downgraded alsa to 1.0.9, myth happy :) |
| [06:09:00] | rlippmann: | and xine isn't giving the snd_pcm_open error.... |
| [06:10:00] | NightMonkey: | There you go. :) |
| [06:10:00] | Gumby: | rlippmann: are the alsa modules included in your kernel? |
| [06:10:00] | rlippmann: | no, loaded on startup |
| [06:10:00] | rlippmann: | guess i should file a bug against alsa |
| [06:11:00] | Gumby: | when you installed the 1.1.0 alsa did that include its drivers as well? |
| [06:11:00] | rlippmann: | no, just utils and libs |
| [06:11:00] | Gumby: | k |
| [06:11:00] | rlippmann: | let me double check |
| [06:12:00] | Gumby: | some distros have separate alsa-drivers package and they arent icluded in the source |
| [06:12:00] | rlippmann: | running FC3. |
| [06:12:00] | Gumby: | so if you had those drivers loaded, and then installed the newer package, they might not have been able to load (because they were already loaded) |
| [06:13:00] | Gumby: | sp/drivers/modules |
| [06:14:00] | Gumby: | unless of course you had rebooted. hehe |
| [06:14:00] | rlippmann: | checked the packages i downgraded. |
| [06:14:00] | rlippmann: | all files are userland, no modules... |
| [06:15:00] | Gumby: | so they are in the kernel package itself then |
| [06:16:00] | rlippmann: | no, stuff downgrades was in /usr/lib, /usr/share, etc... |
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| [06:16:00] | rlippmann: | ie not kernel related |
| [06:17:00] | Gumby: | no, I meant the alsa driver modules are in the kernel package itself. The alsa modules are installed when you install the kernel, its not a seperate package ie: alsa-drivers |
| [06:18:00] | Gumby: | or alsa-modules (debian) |
| [06:19:00] | Gumby: | rlippmann: did you restart alsa? |
| [06:19:00] | rlippmann: | nope |
| [06:20:00] | Gumby: | service alsa restart |
| [06:20:00] | Gumby: | I think rh still uses that |
| [06:20:00] | rlippmann: | just downgraded alsa libraries, and everything worked. |
| [06:20:00] | Gumby: | if its in stable it "should" work |
| [06:20:00] | rlippmann: | alsa driver modules are in kernel package, i believe. |
| [06:20:00] | rlippmann: | the alsa libs are from ATRpms |
| [06:21:00] | Gumby: | I dont know much about fedora, is that an official mirror? |
| [06:21:00] | rlippmann: | yeah. |
| [06:22:00] | rlippmann: | no, it's an unofficial mirror to get mpeg, other patent encumbered stuff. |
| [06:23:00] | rlippmann: | core does include alsa libraries, though. |
| [06:24:00] | rlippmann: | not sure where to file this bug, though. |
| [06:24:00] | rlippmann: | alsa, or myth & xine |
| [06:25:00] | Gumby: | wow, I am getting a tonne of errors with my ivtv card. |
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| [06:25:00] | Gumby: | [mpeg2video @ 0x40946010]skiped MB in I frame at 39 29 |
| [06:25:00] | Gumby: | [mpeg2video @ 0x40946010]slice mismatch |
| [06:25:00] | Gumby: | [mpeg2video @ 0x40946010]invalid mb type in B Frame at 0 25 |
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| [06:28:00] | rlippmann: | sounds like an ffmpeg problem |
| [06:28:00] | rlippmann: | err, problem |
| [06:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Gumby: Unless it is causing visible problems you can generally ignore those |
| [06:31:00] | Gumby: | GreyFoxx: it definately seems to be |
| [06:32:00] | rlippmann: | http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2005-May/036547.html |
| [06:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | seems to be what? Causing you problems other than those warning messages ? |
| [06:32:00] | Gumby: | but this mythsetup in general has. I was running knoppmyth, switched over to mythtv compiled from source on my debian sarge box. |
| [06:32:00] | rlippmann: | actually, appears to be a libmpeg2 problem |
| [06:33:00] | Gumby: | GreyFoxx: visual artifacts and from time to time areas that look like large pixelated sections |
| [06:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Gumby: ahh |
| [06:34:00] | Gumby: | its tollerable to watch for the most part. But I am fairly anal.. so if it can be fixed I'd like to fix it |
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| [06:35:00] | whyz: | lolo.. i've got this process running (for no obvious reason).. mythcommflag. Does it have to do anything with commercial detection? if so, why is it working with yesterdays programs *now*? |
| [06:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Normally there are minor mpeg errors in the mpeg streams off the ivtv cards which can be ignored. But if it'scausing visible problems then I would be annoyed too |
| [06:36:00] | Gumby: | whyz: it has everything to do with commercial detection |
| [06:36:00] | Gumby: | as to why its running now... I cant tell you |
| [06:36:00] | Gumby: | GreyFoxx: the errors in the logfile is constant if the pvr250 is in use. |
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| [06:38:00] | Gumby: | hrm, those seem to only be happening when mythcommflag is runing |
| [06:38:00] | Gumby: | last few lines in the log now are..... |
| [06:39:00] | Gumby: | ERROR: file I/O problem in 'safe_read()': Input/output error |
| [06:39:00] | Gumby: | [mpeg2video @ 0x40946010]end mismatch left=674 |
| [06:39:00] | Gumby: | 2005-11–16 22:36:38.361 Finished, 6 break(s) found. |
| [06:39:00] | whyz: | Gumby, so what can it be doing now? flagging for commercials? |
| [06:40:00] | Gumby: | whyz: yep |
| [06:40:00] | whyz: | but it |
| [06:41:00] | whyz: | 's not cutting anything, right? |
| [06:41:00] | Gumby: | nope, it just flags the file, doesnt cut |
| [06:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythcommflag doesn't remove anything |
| [06:41:00] | whyz: | ok, thanks :) |
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| [06:47:00] | eiggirC: | is this a PVR-150 ? |
| [06:47:00] | eiggirC: | 0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) |
| [06:47:00] | Gumby: | 0000:02:06.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) |
| [06:48:00] | Gumby: | thats a pvr250 |
| [06:48:00] | Gumby: | I have no idea what a pvr150 would return |
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| [06:49:00] | Chutt: | the exact same string |
| [06:50:00] | rlippmann: | my 150 returns: Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) |
| [06:50:00] | Gumby: | whats the pciid |
| [06:51:00] | rlippmann: | my 150 is: Class 0400: 4444:0016 (rev 01) |
| [06:52:00] | rlippmann: | and it's a non-MCE, model 145 |
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| [07:14:00] | rlippmann: | well, thanks all for your help. off to bed... |
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| [07:46:00] | cosmo_: | ive got a copy of mplayer running that wont respond to kill or killall, what do I do? |
| [07:46:00] | eiggirC: | 0000:00:0c.0 0400: 4444:0016 (rev 01) |
| [07:46:00] | eiggirC: | mine's a MCE version |
| [07:46:00] | eiggirC: | so its just the software provided that makes the difference between a MCE and a non-MCE |
| [07:47:00] | eiggirC: | and the RCA jacks on the rear |
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| [08:42:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | I have the following grants in my DB, but I still can't connect remotely to this server from 192.168.0.6. mysql> show grants for mythtv@'192.168.0.%'; |
| [08:42:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | +------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------+ |
| [08:42:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | | Grants for mythtv@192.168.0.% | |
| [08:42:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | +------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------+ |
| [08:42:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | | GRANT USAGE ON *.* TO 'mythtv'@'192.168.0.%' IDENTIFIED BY PASSWORD '*CC8F35F587CA5A556B4132C2407E556D92172FFC' | |
| [08:42:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | | GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON `mythconverg`.* TO 'mythtv'@'192.168.0.%' | |
| [08:42:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | +------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------+ |
| [08:42:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | 2 rows in set (0.00 sec) |
| [08:42:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | does anyone have any idea why? |
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| [13:18:00] | yooda: | hello, I have a little problem to add channels to my mythtv: nice: tv_grab_de_tvtoday: No such file or directory |
| [13:18:00] | yooda: | what can I do that he finds that file ? ;) |
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| [13:25:00] | dystopianray: | hello, anyone have any experience with the ATI 550 pro tuner cards? |
| [13:27:00] | juski: | no point even considering one of them IMHO, unless you want to use Windows as your PVR platform |
| [13:28:00] | dystopianray: | so no linux support? |
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| [13:31:00] | juski: | a little linux support, but you may aswell buy a *proper* tuner instead imho |
| [13:32:00] | dystopianray: | ah ok, |
| [13:32:00] | dystopianray: | seemed interesting becuase it had hardware mpeg2 and was quite cheap :0 |
| [13:33:00] | juski: | hey if ATI ever produce a decent working driver for it.. :) but how likely is *that* ? |
| [13:33:00] | dystopianray: | :p |
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| [13:33:00] | dystopianray: | how important is hardware mpeg2 encoding? I'm running an athlon64 3000+ with a gig of ram here, am I going to have trouble with software decoding? |
| [13:33:00] | Beirdo: | or if someone else gets past their anti-ATI sentiment and writes drivres |
| [13:35:00] | dystopianray: | I'm thinking about a twinhan hdtv tuner here, anyone have any experience with them? |
| [13:37:00] | juski: | twinhan dvb-t – haven't got one myself but I know someone who has and is quite happy with it |
| [13:38:00] | dystopianray: | cool :) |
| [13:38:00] | dystopianray: | any idea how they'll handle 1080i hdtv? they're software based iirc |
| [13:39:00] | juski: | if you're thinking ATSC over the air HD in the USA I don't think they'll work for that |
| [13:39:00] | dystopianray: | I'm from australia |
| [13:40:00] | juski: | should be fine in that case |
| [13:40:00] | juski: | and they aint software based |
| [13:40:00] | dystopianray: | they aren't? |
| [13:40:00] | juski: | they just pull mpeg streams out of the air |
| [13:40:00] | juski: | or rather they pull a datastream containing mpeg streams out of the air ;) |
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| [13:40:00] | dystopianray: | ah ok :) |
| [13:40:00] | dystopianray: | well that's what i meant :p |
| [13:40:00] | juski: | cpu utilisation will be very low for recording |
| [13:41:00] | dystopianray: | i just wnat to watch tv really |
| [13:41:00] | juski: | only snag with HD is decoing it and the CPU load that goes with it |
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| [13:42:00] | dystopianray: | yeah, do you think an athlon64 3000+ would be able to handle it fine? |
| [13:43:00] | juski: | I've seen all kinds of conflicting information about that so I'm not sure |
| [13:43:00] | dystopianray: | ah ok |
| [13:43:00] | juski: | I'll leave that for someone else to answer |
| [13:43:00] | dystopianray: | http://www.twinhan.com/product_terrestrial_2.asp |
| [13:43:00] | dystopianray: | I believe that is the one I can purchase |
| [13:44:00] | juski: | wait til mpeg4 HDTV hits europe.. we're gonna be up a certain creek with no paddle without going dualcore or something |
| [13:44:00] | dystopianray: | wow they're introducing mpeg4 tv soon? |
| [13:45:00] | juski: | parts of europe for now.. presumably so they don't have to find extra bandwidth |
| [13:45:00] | dystopianray: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Support . . . winHan_DVB-T I believe taht corresponds to the card i'm looking at |
| [13:46:00] | juski: | dystopianray: looks about right |
| [13:46:00] | juski: | time for me to get back to work |
| [13:47:00] | dystopianray: | juski: do you know what model your friend has? |
| [13:47:00] | dystopianray: | ah ok, |
| [13:47:00] | dystopianray: | thanks for your help :) |
| [13:47:00] | juski: | dystopianray: same as the one you're looking at |
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| [13:47:00] | dystopianray: | nice :) |
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| [14:03:00] | Giuly: | is it usual, that the data from the embedded ir-receiver goes to /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0? |
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| [14:14:00] | brajchel: | Hi all! Got few questions! |
| [14:15:00] | brajchel: | I just got PVR-250 but ivtvctl -a |
| [14:16:00] | brajchel: | shows pvr 150 |
| [14:16:00] | brajchel: | any idea why? |
| [14:17:00] | dystopianray: | iirc it's a newer version of the 250? |
| [14:18:00] | brajchel: | well I got a few weeks ago, but it took me some time to set up gentoo :) I fallowed their howto and have few issues |
| [14:19:00] | brajchel: | Hauppauge 980 ( WinTV-PVR-250 ) PCI Interface TV Tuner Card |
| [14:19:00] | brajchel: | when i run ivtv-detect i get this "Segmentation fault" |
| [14:20:00] | brajchel: | and lspci shows "0000:01:01.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)" |
| [14:21:00] | brajchel: | i believe that iTVc15 is PVR-150 mine shows 16, but i might be wrong |
| [14:21:00] | dystopianray: | http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Wh . . . d_PVR-250.3F |
| [14:22:00] | brajchel: | nice I always end up stuff that's not supported yet |
| [14:22:00] | dystopianray: | :( |
| [14:24:00] | brajchel: | I hate to give up on linux, but I guess win wins this time |
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| [14:26:00] | dystopianray: | last modified october 9, and it says they're working on it? |
| [14:26:00] | dystopianray: | maybe you can find some support, even preliminary in some cvs driver somewhere |
| [14:26:00] | brajchel: | i spend to much time on this already |
| [14:28:00] | brajchel: | I was hoping that you guys would make my day hehehe |
| [14:28:00] | laga: | wasn't there a bug where the pvr 250 would be misdetected as a 150? dunno.... |
| [14:30:00] | brajchel: | yea I tried to modyfy what they told me to do and it did't work for me |
| [14:42:00] | brajchel: | hm I just found something |
| [14:42:00] | brajchel: | modprobe ivtv cardtype=1 ivtv_std=2 tuner=38 |
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| [14:43:00] | brajchel: | it probed my card as ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 250, card #0 |
| [14:43:00] | brajchel: | nice |
| [14:44:00] | brajchel: | what do I have to do to make sure next time my gentto starts it gets those settings |
| [14:44:00] | dystopianray: | gentoo? |
| [14:45:00] | dystopianray: | /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 |
| [14:45:00] | dystopianray: | ivtv cardtype=1 ivtv_std=2 tuner=38 |
| [14:45:00] | dystopianray: | put that in there |
| [14:45:00] | brajchel: | sweet |
| [14:45:00] | brajchel: | tons of other errors went away |
| [14:45:00] | ** dystopianray loves his gentoo :p ** | |
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| [14:47:00] | brajchel: | gentoo rulez |
| [14:47:00] | dystopianray: | indeed |
| [14:47:00] | brajchel: | i had suse on the same box and I see the diferance in kde performance |
| [14:48:00] | dystopianray: | probably mainly due to suse having a hell of a lot more software installed |
| [14:48:00] | brajchel: | can somebody run lsmod for one of the pvr' so I can see what should be loaded |
| [14:49:00] | brajchel: | From what i see that's windows issue. all of my lin boxes have tons of stuff but they perform same nomether if it's a minimum install or full |
| [14:49:00] | brajchel: | but I guess it makes some kind of differance |
| [14:50:00] | dystopianray: | *shrugs* I've never used suse I have no idea :/ |
| [14:50:00] | brajchel: | I like suse on our servers at work, cus yast makes managment a breeze but gentoo is quicker and more flexible |
| [14:51:00] | dystopianray: | I like openbsd, so damn easy to install and secure by default |
| [14:51:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [14:51:00] | Beirdo: | so useless by default too :) |
| [14:51:00] | brajchel: | I had few freebsds never tried open one |
| [14:52:00] | laga: | ubuntu rocks. after de-gnomifying half of the software |
| [14:52:00] | Beirdo: | ubuntu++ |
| [14:53:00] | brajchel: | hrhrh |
| [14:53:00] | Beirdo: | openbsd does make a nice firewall though :) |
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| [14:53:00] | laga: | (the system administration tools supplied with gnome SUCK. they must have been smoking crack) |
| [14:53:00] | brajchel: | they all good as long as things are working not like in win |
| [14:53:00] | Beirdo: | laga: you use the provided crap tools? shame on you |
| [14:53:00] | brajchel: | hahaha |
| [14:53:00] | Beirdo: | use the config files |
| [14:53:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i'm in the process of replacing them. |
| [14:53:00] | dystopianray: | don't forget removing the brown from ubuntu, it's so damn ugly by default :p |
| [14:54:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [14:54:00] | Beirdo: | there's nothing brown about a console :) |
| [14:54:00] | dystopianray: | :D |
| [14:54:00] | dystopianray: | I have some ubuntu livecds, but I've not tried them yet |
| [14:54:00] | laga: | Beirdo: what do you use for terminal emulator? |
| [14:54:00] | laga: | emulation* |
| [14:54:00] | Beirdo: | rxvt |
| [14:55:00] | laga: | Beirdo: ok, thanks. may have to try that. gnome-terminal sucks as well. |
| [14:55:00] | Beirdo: | yes, it does |
| [14:55:00] | laga: | Beirdo: does it do transparency? |
| [14:55:00] | Beirdo: | dunno |
| [14:55:00] | Beirdo: | it's old-school |
| [14:55:00] | Beirdo: | so likely not |
| [14:55:00] | laga: | Beirdo: gnome-terminal goes all nuts when used with screen and irssi |
| [14:55:00] | laga: | Beirdo: oh, sad. |
| [14:55:00] | Beirdo: | but it's quite light-weight |
| [14:55:00] | Beirdo: | and I don't like transparency :) |
| [14:55:00] | Beirdo: | so I dunno |
| [14:55:00] | brajchel: | you guys are funny |
| [14:56:00] | laga: | transparency is good. nothing can't beat chatting while looking at a picture of the GF |
| [14:56:00] | laga: | brajchel: we're deadly serious |
| [14:56:00] | dystopianray: | I prefer just using a vt, nothing beats vgacon :) |
| [14:56:00] | Beirdo: | be careful, might get something on the keyboard |
| [14:56:00] | Beirdo: | I usually use ssh from another machine anyways |
| [14:57:00] | laga: | Beirdo: yeah, have to take care |
| [14:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | REAL transparency looks nice. The fake "copy bits of the background mage only stuff that most apps do isn't so special. Very 1990's :) |
| [14:57:00] | Beirdo: | but now that other machine is a laptop running ubuntu |
| [14:57:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i could use the composite extension, but that's helluva slow. |
| [14:57:00] | brajchel: | isn't this a mythtv # |
| [14:57:00] | laga: | Beirdo: using ubuntu on the laptop as well. i'm ver impressed by the hardware detection. |
| [14:57:00] | laga: | brajchel: yep. |
| [14:57:00] | Beirdo: | and I like black background, not white |
| [14:57:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [14:57:00] | dystopianray: | with the new grahics architecture in X.org 6.9/7.0 appreantlyc omposite will be a lot faster and nicer with older hardware |
| [14:58:00] | laga: | on topic: i still need to roll .debs for ubuntu |
| [14:58:00] | laga: | dystopianray: i hope so, i found it to be unusable. |
| [14:58:00] | Beirdo: | roll Deb around in the hay a bit |
| [14:58:00] | dystopianray: | laga: as did I, I had a lot of wierd graphical curruption |
| [14:58:00] | laga: | Beirdo: you need to take a cold shower |
| [14:58:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [15:01:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [15:01:00] | Beirdo: | I hate it when my fiancee has no internet connection at work |
| [15:02:00] | laga: | you totally need one. :> |
| [15:02:00] | laga: | afk |
| [15:03:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
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| [15:05:00] | ilusr: | hey everyone i'm having a small problem with mythtv – i needed to change the target recording location and now can't delete a program from the listing. i've tried changing the target directory back and deleting but still get a "fill missing" error from the frontend. any thoughts on how to remove it? |
| [15:12:00] | stoffel_: | create an empty file with this recordings name and then delete it |
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| [15:16:00] | ilusr: | sweet that'll work – how do i know the right file name? the numbers before the "nuv" file seem confusing |
| [15:17:00] | stoffel_: | what version of myth? |
| [15:18:00] | ilusr: | latest |
| [15:18:00] | ilusr: | 0.18.1 |
| [15:19:00] | stoffel_: | the naming scheme is $channel_YYYYMMDDHHMMSS_YYYYMMDDHHMMSS.nuv with the first YYYYDD... being start date/time and the 2nd one the end date/time |
| [15:21:00] | ilusr: | ah thanks bud |
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| [15:22:00] | stoffel_: | oh and channel == chanid |
| [15:22:00] | ilusr: | right |
| [15:22:00] | ilusr: | i'll give that a go |
| [15:24:00] | ilusr: | the only other problem i've got going on is an issue with the tvout from my pvr350. when i'm using my video card for tvout myth is rock solid, when i start using the pvr350 things are much less stable. i get screen freezes that can't be recovered. is this likely an ivtv problem? i heard a downgrade might help but was hoping someone else has fought through this |
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| [15:42:00] | Spida: | anybody here using 2.6.14.2 with lirc? |
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| [15:59:00] | eidolon: | 'lo folks. we're trying to figure out the best way to view myth recorded programs via mythweb. is it required to install the entire mythtv frontend to view recordings? or is there a decoder for .nuv files available for, say, xine or mplayer? |
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| [16:05:00] | bfree: | eidolon: I _think_ mplayer will play them ... |
| [16:06:00] | bfree: | but I'm a myth newb (seem to remember reading mainly mplayer stuff about them though) |
| [16:06:00] | eidolon: | yah, actually, i'm reading a forum thread that says hardware-encoded streams (off a pvr150 for example) are basically just mpeg2. |
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| [16:07:00] | bfree: | nuv is a container format afaik, live avi for example, so the main thing is for the player to understand the container, I imagine any player that can do that will understand the actual contained formats (audio and video), but I don't think many have support for nuv (perhaps only mplayer) |
| [16:09:00] | eidolon: | well, my only .nuv sample is 1.1gig long, i'm moving it from the myth box to my laptop. i'll tell you if it works in about 20 minutes :) |
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| [16:12:00] | bfree: | hmm, I found a less encouraging forum thread :-( http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6081& |
| [16:12:00] | ExitMenu: | hello I am having a problem with myth where it trys to get the tv data its cant find the command tv_grab_uk_rt and neither can I, where do I download this from? any help pls |
| [16:13:00] | bfree: | ExitMenu: tv_grab stuff comes from xmltv I think |
| [16:13:00] | eidolon: | that's the exact thread i was reading, bfree :) he's using software encoding. hardware encoded (pvr-x50) streams are mpeg2. |
| [16:15:00] | bfree: | yep, your streams can be played by xine as is, or renamed to get other players to play them :-) or mplayer might need a patch to understand them without the filename change :-( |
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| [16:16:00] | eidolon: | yah, i'm trying xine. |
| [16:16:00] | eidolon: | 39% complete. |
| [16:17:00] | ExitMenu: | ta kewl I will try to get that |
| [16:24:00] | bfree: | eidolon: another thread, another possible contender, vlc ... and it also suggests mplayer should work for you (pvr NNN mpeg nuv files) ... http://forums.divx.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f . . . /r/704108752 |
| [16:25:00] | eidolon: | well, i'm about 2/3rds of the way dowloadig. i'll just TIAS :) |
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| [16:28:00] | juski: | heads up: Scan.co.uk have the PVR150MCE for £37.50 today only :) |
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| [16:29:00] | splat1 is now known as splAt1 | |
| [16:30:00] | ** eidolon will pay that in shipping to the US :) ** | |
| [16:30:00] | eidolon: | i got mine from newegg for $89 i believe. |
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| [16:43:00] | ilusr: | hey slight off topic but anyone using the silverstone case with the vfd for their mythtv install? have you had any luck installing lcdproc? |
| [16:43:00] | bfree: | I got a remote and receiver (usb) with my Plextor ConvertX, it is autodetected as a keyboard AND Mouse. Is their a way to map the remote to myth so it doesn't clash with the main keyboard, and perhaps leave the main keyboard as a normal keyboard (so it can type normally in a browser for example)? or am I missing something? |
| [16:44:00] | eidolon: | so... success on xine playing a pvr150 encoded nuv file. |
| [16:44:00] | ** eidolon watches a ghost in the shell episode. ** | |
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| [16:46:00] | bfree: | I think I'll be checking out vlc, nuvexport and nuv2avi (mpeg4 encoder not pvrNNN mpeg2) |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | nuv2avi is a work in progress, BTW |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | I'll get back to it soon, I hope |
| [16:48:00] | bfree: | Beirdo: it looked like it could work for me? plextor mpeg4 encoder so I don't want re-encoding (which it seems nuvexport will do)? |
| [16:48:00] | laga: | i still haven't got a reply to my question regarding the -j option on the transcode ML. sad. |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | it could work, try the older version |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | not SVN |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | you may end up with slight sync issues, but worth a try |
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| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | laga: you should be proud of me.... listening to LOUD music at work |
| [16:49:00] | bfree: | Beirdo: I always would, then try the svn if it didn't work or I think it has something I really want! |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, OK |
| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | the SVN version's kinda half-borked, and I ran out of time/energy |
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| [16:50:00] | bfree: | :-( it happens |
| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | I plan to get back to it soon, got some MUD code to rehash first... |
| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | and all the while, not ignoring the fiancee and the wedding plans |
| [16:50:00] | laga: | Beirdo: why proud? that's pretty standard nowadays. |
| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | my peak programming time is the winter though |
| [16:51:00] | bfree: | :-) |
| [16:51:00] | Beirdo: | until I get to move to Puerto Rico, then there is no real winter |
| [16:51:00] | laga: | move to the pole instead, please |
| [16:51:00] | Beirdo: | laga: Tourniquet at high volume... |
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| [16:52:00] | Beirdo: | I will NOT move further north if I can help it :) |
| [16:52:00] | Beirdo: | Toronto's bad enough |
| [16:52:00] | laga: | Beirdo: hehe |
| [16:52:00] | Beirdo: | I'm sure it's easily heard 2 cubicles away |
| [16:54:00] | bfree: | anyone any idea where I should start with my remote ... so many levels to myth (even though I think I'm skipping the lirc part) ... should I be looking to X to try and modmap the remote's keyboard and change myth to match that or ... ? not finding anything about this remote or even non lirc ones in general (or even double keyboarding to the same X) |
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| [16:59:00] | juski: | hi laga.. how's things? |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | juski: ok so far. how are they in the UK? |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | weather's gone shitty |
| [17:00:00] | juski: | cold.. lol |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | yep, hehe |
| [17:01:00] | juski: | about right for my new grey theme ;) |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | it's -6C with wind chill here this morning |
| [17:01:00] | laga: | juski: grey theme? huh? |
| [17:01:00] | laga: | Beirdo: ouch. well, we have +5°c |
| [17:01:00] | juski: | de-iced my car windscreen this morning.. within 5 mins it was iced over again |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | it's 0C plus wind |
| [17:01:00] | juski: | yeh laga.. been busy theming.. not much left to do now |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | how I love northern living, and Toronto ain't as bad as much of Cananda |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | I can't even type |
| [17:02:00] | laga: | juski: hehe. i had some nice hail during my driving lesson yesterday, i was quite scared ;) |
| [17:02:00] | laga: | juski: nice. let me know when it's done :) |
| [17:03:00] | juski: | there are some sneak previews on my server |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | juski: URL? |
| [17:03:00] | Giuly: | /home/giuly/.mythtv/lircrc <-- is that a lircd.conf? |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | Beirdo: stop drinking (early) |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | Giuly: no, that's a lircrc |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | I haven't had booze in nearly 2 months |
| [17:03:00] | juski: | laga : PM? |
| [17:04:00] | Giuly: | how can I create or obtain a lircrc? |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | the bottle of rum is sitting right beside my laptop at home, haven't drank a drop |
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| [17:06:00] | Giuly: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/lircrc-haupgrey.txt <- second entry on google for "lircrc" :) |
| [17:06:00] | laga: | Beirdo: busy with the crack pipe instead? hehe |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | got way too much on the go to drink, dude |
| [17:07:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | I think I want to drink a pint of rum tonight :) |
| [17:07:00] | juski: | I'll be resisting the temptation of wine this weekend.. bad idea – drinking & drawing... |
| [17:07:00] | ilusr: | hey anyone use lcdproc with fedora? i read the install instructions but could still use some help getting it to load automatically on boot |
| [17:08:00] | laga: | juski: Gf has a birthday, so i'm gonna get drunk at her expense ;) |
| [17:08:00] | laga: | juski: wow. i'm impressed. it's the spiff. |
| [17:08:00] | juski: | damn this fscking box... I can't log into it over the com port.. and I dunno whatt its IP address is to telnet into it... crap software.. |
| [17:09:00] | laga: | juski: hehe. dbox? |
| [17:09:00] | juski: | cool laga: pleased you like it :) |
| [17:09:00] | juski: | workbox, laga |
| [17:09:00] | laga: | juski: oh, ok. |
| [17:09:00] | juski: | the software lets you disable both serial ports ffs |
| [17:10:00] | juski: | a couple of snafu's with this theme I'm doing. 1: I'll need a blessing from the creator of project mayhem in XBMC... and 2. I can't use it with my minimyth |
| [17:11:00] | juski: | (at least not right away) |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | juski: hehe. isn't greyfoxx working on a project mayhem theme? |
| [17:12:00] | juski: | he was, but halted it, waiting for the new UI & theme stuff., I just started messing around & now I'm not far off being finished |
| [17:12:00] | laga: | nice :) |
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| [17:12:00] | juski: | already thinking about a Christmas theme... think 'Blue' with xmas trees, lights & glass baubles |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | blech |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | sorry ;) |
| [17:13:00] | bill2or3: | my xmas theme will be "i hate all of you" |
| [17:13:00] | bill2or3: | same as every year. |
| [17:13:00] | juski: | I know some people think the last thing mythtv needs is theming effort, but hey I can't code ;) |
| [17:13:00] | bill2or3: | oh, you mean a mythtv theme. :-) |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | juski: we totally need themes! ;) |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | I'd rather have a thanksgiving theme where you shoot a turkey with a shotgun :) |
| [17:14:00] | juski: | "I got a pellet! yay!" |
| [17:14:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | oh damn |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | I got SO close |
| [17:15:00] | mchou: | you guys hear about this? http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005 . . . eLabsPR.mspx |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | looking at my MUD code... I never got to converting the player file |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | blech |
| [17:15:00] | juski: | this thing (working title: 'Project Grayhem') is largely based around the MythTVMediaCenter theme, so er.. thanks to whoever created that |
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| [17:16:00] | laga: | juski: some guy from .nl |
| [17:16:00] | laga: | juski: jeroen... |
| [17:16:00] | laga: | jeroen jorens? hmm. no. |
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| [17:16:00] | juski: | sure his name will be in a text file somewheres |
| [17:17:00] | laga: | jeron brosens. |
| [17:17:00] | laga: | darn. jeroen brosens, that's it |
| [17:17:00] | xris: | morning, Beirdo |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | morning, xris |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | having a good day? |
| [17:18:00] | xris: | heartburn. :( |
| [17:18:00] | laga: | hello xris |
| [17:18:00] | juski: | gah.. serial command parser disabled... argghhh. where's my hammer? |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | oooh, that's no good |
| [17:18:00] | xris: | apparently one of the vitamins my doctor gave me doesn't work well on an empty stomach (despite that he said to take it on one) |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | oh goodie |
| [17:19:00] | eidolon: | ew. |
| [17:20:00] | xris: | oh well. |
| [17:21:00] | eidolon: | so is there an 'out of box' way of controlling livetv on knoppmyth? |
| [17:21:00] | eidolon: | my myth box is *poiunts* way over there. but i sit *gestures* here. |
| [17:21:00] | eidolon: | in front of my laptop :) |
| [17:22:00] | laga: | man remote |
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| [17:22:00] | eidolon: | dbs@mythtv:~$ man remote |
| [17:22:00] | eidolon: | No manual entry for remote |
| [17:23:00] | eidolon: | you're talkinga bout LIRC? |
| [17:23:00] | laga: | yep, hehe |
| [17:23:00] | laga: | just get a remote ;) |
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| [17:23:00] | eidolon: | i have the pvr-150 remote actually... but knoppmyth isn't picking it up.. i'm assuming cuzlirc needs to be recompiled and reconfigured – something i'm somewhat loathe to do. |
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| [17:24:00] | juski: | we have 2 remotes in my house... a 'OFA 6' and me |
| [17:25:00] | Orfeous: | hello everyone. |
| [17:25:00] | Orfeous: | i wonder if my Twinhan DVB-t card is supported my MythTV? |
| [17:26:00] | stoffel_: | if it works in linux then it should also work in mythtv |
| [17:26:00] | bill2or3: | Orfeous, are you in N.America? |
| [17:26:00] | juski: | it's Linux support you need to be more concerned about.. but yes it's supported by Linux. One of my friends has one |
| [17:26:00] | Beirdo: | bill2or3: not unless Sweden moved continents |
| [17:26:00] | Orfeous: | bill2or3: no, i live in Sweden |
| [17:26:00] | bill2or3: | ahh. |
| [17:26:00] | Beirdo: | nothing a /whois can't tell ya |
| [17:28:00] | juski: | yes! I'm into the machine. Only taken me all afternoon |
| [17:28:00] | juski: | m\serial_mode\com1\debug |
| [17:28:00] | juski: | erse |
| [17:28:00] | Orfeous: | my Debian linux is recognizing my card as Vision/Twinhan in 2.6.14-kernel.. with the bttv-driver.. |
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| [17:32:00] | juski: | Orfeous: does the kernel have any dvb stuff in it? |
| [17:33:00] | juski: | I'd *imagine* it does, being as recent as that |
| [17:33:00] | juski: | if you have a /dev/dvb/adapter0 etc already you'll be more or less good to go with mythtv |
| [17:37:00] | Orfeous: | juski: i can enable BT878 support that my card is built on.. |
| [17:37:00] | adante: | yep i'm running a set of twinhan's on 2.6.9 |
| [17:37:00] | Orfeous: | one problem is that i dont know my frequensies over here in sweden and what bandwith to use. |
| [17:38:00] | juski: | isn't there a file for Sweden in the linuxtv-dvb apps? |
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| [17:39:00] | juski: | www.linuxtv.org/downloads/linuxtv-dvb-apps-1.1.0.tar.bz2 |
| [17:41:00] | juski: | ah. it seems there isn't. Well it shouldn't be too hard to find out, Orfeous |
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| [17:43:00] | juski: | Orfeous: www.dvb.org/index.php?id=234 |
| [17:44:00] | Orfeous: | oh, let me check that page.. |
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| [17:45:00] | juski: | well it's *hometime* once again... and the new series of Little Britain is on tonight, so no homework for me ;) |
| [17:45:00] | juski: | eek did I just admit that I'm gonna be watching live tv? |
| [17:45:00] | ** juski hides ** | |
| [17:46:00] | Orfeous: | juski: ok, i couldnt find anything about frequencies.. just bandwith 8Mhz |
| [17:47:00] | sphing: | juski... live tv is for the weak who lke commercials |
| [17:50:00] | juski: | lol.. this show is on bbc :) |
| [17:51:00] | juski: | no commercials.. |
| [17:51:00] | adante: | unfortunately such people while weak are also vocal |
| [17:51:00] | juski: | from what I've seen on the commercial channels the ads are better than the shows |
| [17:51:00] | juski: | and with that.. I'm outta here |
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| [18:06:00] | sphing: | has anyone got myth to control a cable box via usb? |
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| [18:36:00] | sphing: | is there a way for lirc/myth to use ir port on the back of cable boxes, they look like a headphone jack |
| [18:37:00] | bill2or3: | that's probablly serial. |
| [18:37:00] | bill2or3: | see if you can find a service manual for your specific model of box |
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| [18:38:00] | rossi: | hi |
| [18:39:00] | rossi: | my kvdr sais it doesn't find kvdr what could be the problem?? |
| [18:39:00] | Beirdo: | WTF? |
| [18:39:00] | Beirdo: | kvdr isn't mythtv. get a clue |
| [18:39:00] | Krazylegz: | KVDR != MythTV |
| [18:39:00] | sphing: | lol... i've never heard of kvdr... |
| [18:40:00] | rossi: | sry |
| [18:40:00] | rossi: | but I think you guys know about |
| [18:40:00] | Beirdo: | no we don't |
| [18:40:00] | Krazylegz: | sphing: http://freshmeat.net/projects/kvdr/ |
| [18:40:00] | DonLKSAB: | Hi all |
| [18:40:00] | Beirdo: | this is a mythtv channel, not kvdr, whatever it might be |
| [18:41:00] | DonLKSAB: | Any XF86config expert in the house? |
| [18:41:00] | sphing: | Krazylegz: ah |
| [18:41:00] | DonLKSAB: | I cant get my DVI to output a wide format |
| [18:41:00] | kormoc: | rossi, if your kvdr can't find itself, I think you should have a man to kvdr talk before it turns to drugs to find meaning in it's life. |
| [18:42:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:42:00] | sphing: | haha |
| [18:43:00] | rossi: | someone told me to make a link to /dev/video0 or 1 two what I need |
| [18:43:00] | Beirdo: | man kvdr |
| [18:43:00] | sphing: | rossi in case you didnt get the hint.. this is a mythtv channel _NOT_ a kvdr |
| [18:43:00] | kormoc: | rossi, I think the key idea you are missing is, we all use mythtv, and we don't use kvdr, so why would we know anyhting about it? |
| [18:44:00] | ivor: | so its an X frontend to vdr. you probably want to ask on a vdr channel. |
| [18:44:00] | rossi: | I think it was a basic question |
| [18:45:00] | kormoc: | rossi, no, it's not a basic question, we know nothing about your setup, we know nothing about the software you use, we know nothing about what you are tring to do |
| [18:45:00] | kormoc: | if it really was that basic, you would know the answer already. |
| [18:45:00] | Beirdo: | you got a basic answer. this isn't the right place. Have fun |
| [18:46:00] | sphing: | anyone using firewire to get HD from their cable box? |
| [18:46:00] | rossi: | kk |
| [18:46:00] | Beirdo: | think the abuse you'd get if you started asking Windows-specific questions in a Linux channel :) |
| [18:47:00] | sphing: | haha |
| [18:47:00] | kormoc: | I can't boot up my windows xp, it says something about missing a purple ape... what do I do? |
| [18:47:00] | sphing: | the paperclip on the bottom right didnt help? |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | stop spanking the monkey, it's turning purple |
| [18:48:00] | ** kormoc shudders at the nightmares of that purple ape... ** | |
| [18:48:00] | Giuly: | kormoc: washing that dirty windows with soap all out the hdd |
| [18:48:00] | kormoc: | Bonzi Buddy == the 5th circle of hell. |
| [18:48:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [18:50:00] | xris: | http://www.news24.com/News24/Backpage/Offbeat . . . 5671,00.html |
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| [18:54:00] | markc: | is mythtv 64bit safe yet ? |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | try it and find out |
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| [18:56:00] | markc: | I just tried rebuilding a ubuntu source package and it failed with asm statements in mpegvideo.c ... just wondering if I should persist |
| [18:57:00] | markc: | as in "persist" with perhaps instaling Gentoo, for instance |
| [18:58:00] | markc: | thought I'd try and see if anyone here is using some kind of 64bit platform so I could make a decision |
| [18:58:00] | markc: | ? |
| [19:02:00] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [19:02:00] | Beirdo: | I think they try to keep it clean |
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| [19:07:00] | markc: | so should I forget trying to run mythtv on a 64bit system ? |
| [19:08:00] | Giuly: | it runs perfectly here (gentoo amd64) |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | it should run fine |
| [19:08:00] | markc: | Giuly: ah cool, good to where... 2005.1 ? |
| [19:08:00] | markc: | hear |
| [19:09:00] | kormoc: | markc, gentoo is version less, that's just the install cd date tis all |
| [19:10:00] | markc: | kormoc: yes, and that's the stage I guess I would have to start with |
| [19:10:00] | kormoc: | markc, doesn't matter, you could use my favorate install cd (1.2) if you wanted and end up at the same place :) |
| [19:11:00] | Chutt: | err |
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| [19:11:00] | Chutt: | why would getting 64 bit stuff working require gentoo? |
| [19:11:00] | rjune: | because gentoo r0><0rs ? |
| [19:11:00] | markc: | well I just tried to rebuild mythtv on ubuntu/breezy and ut failed |
| [19:12:00] | Giuly: | i didn't say that it requires gentoo |
| [19:12:00] | Chutt: | markc, and if you use the same source on gentoo, it'll fail in the same way. |
| [19:12:00] | markc: | I think I'm prepared to reinstall a whole desktop just to run mythtv on amd64, *if* it works |
| [19:13:00] | Chutt: | it works fine on breezy. |
| [19:13:00] | Chutt: | if you use the fixes branch of myth. |
| [19:13:00] | markc: | not on amd64 |
| [19:13:00] | Chutt: | uh |
| [19:13:00] | Giuly: | s/say/said/ |
| [19:13:00] | Chutt: | i develop mythtv on dapper amd64. |
| [19:13:00] | Chutt: | the fixes branch should compile just fine, as i just said. |
| [19:14:00] | epoch: | I develop yo' momma on... uh... my couch! |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | epoch: real mature |
| [19:14:00] | epoch: | Beirdo: that's me :) |
| [19:14:00] | epoch: | also, so's chutt's mom! |
| [19:14:00] | epoch: | hiyooo! |
| [19:14:00] | markc: | are the packages available ? I was using dapper but just downgraded back to breezy because kde-devel/kdevelop would not install |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | dumbass. |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | not you, markc :) |
| [19:14:00] | epoch: | oh come on now |
| [19:15:00] | epoch: | chutt thinks I'm funny |
| [19:15:00] | Chutt: | i do! |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | but funny looking isn't all that counts |
| [19:15:00] | epoch: | hahaha |
| [19:15:00] | markc: | Chutt: how do I get the "fixes branch" ? |
| [19:15:00] | Chutt: | instructions on the svn page. |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | I think I need more decaf in my daily diet |
| [19:16:00] | epoch: | Beirdo: you mean water, right? |
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| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:17:00] | markc: | Chutt: what's the best way to build it ? konstruct or something ? |
| [19:17:00] | Chutt: | 'make'? |
| [19:17:00] | markc: | Chutt: err... compiler flags for amd64 etc ? |
| [19:18:00] | Chutt: | ok, ./configure, first. |
| [19:19:00] | epoch: | ./configure --help might also be useful :) |
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| [19:19:00] | Chutt: | compile instructions are in the docs. |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | gimme an R.... gimme a T... gimme an F... gimme an M.... What does it spell?? RTFM! |
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| [19:20:00] | ** bill2or3 cheers wildly. ** | |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | oh, I definitely need to cut back the caffeine |
| [19:20:00] | xris: | Beirdo: what was I supposed to tell Geoff about the mpeg2cut stuff? |
| [19:20:00] | markc: | or install Gentoo and type emerge mythtv :-/ |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | ummm |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | check if the PTS/DTS discontinuities are dealt with? some players go crazy with discontinuities |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | I think that was it |
| [19:21:00] | epoch: | markc: I recommend typing dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda in that situation ;P |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | eek |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | that's a bit rough |
| [19:21:00] | epoch: | yeah, I know |
| [19:21:00] | markc: | okay, that should save me a lot of time and effort |
| [19:21:00] | epoch: | I'm a gentoo hater |
| [19:21:00] | epoch: | also I'm at home, and bored :) |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | and on the internet with so much free pr0n |
| [19:22:00] | epoch: | haha |
| [19:22:00] | epoch: | I don't need pr0n ;P |
| [19:22:00] | markc: | well, most of us have TWO hands |
| [19:22:00] | kormoc: | epoch, it's never a need, it's just a want... |
| [19:23:00] | epoch: | heh |
| [19:23:00] | epoch: | true |
| [19:23:00] | markc: | so what do I do when I type in that dd command... hit enter ? |
| [19:23:00] | epoch: | oh god |
| [19:23:00] | epoch: | for the love of god, *don't* hit enter |
| [19:23:00] | kormoc: | markc, that command will format your drive... |
| [19:23:00] | epoch: | heh |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | oh jeez |
| [19:23:00] | sphing: | lol |
| [19:23:00] | sphing: | man dd |
| [19:23:00] | epoch: | it won't format it, kormoc |
| [19:24:00] | epoch: | it'll just zero it out |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | it will zero it |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [19:24:00] | markc: | :-) |
| [19:24:00] | bill2or3: | it'll unformat it. |
| [19:24:00] | bill2or3: | heh |
| [19:24:00] | beavis: | wow, today's SVN myth is the most crashy revision for ages |
| [19:24:00] | kormoc: | epoch, writing all zeros to it is formatting it to zeros :P |
| [19:24:00] | Chutt: | and it's not even my fault. |
| [19:24:00] | epoch: | kormoc: heh, usually when someone says "format" they mean into a format recognizable by an OS... |
| [19:25:00] | kormoc: | epoch, linux has /dev/zero which is all zeros :P |
| [19:25:00] | epoch: | unless you've got some sort of filesystemless OS, a zeroed drive doesn't count as "formatted" ;P |
| [19:25:00] | beavis: | Chutt: heh, today everything crashes, the BE and the FE whatever I'm starting ;) |
| [19:25:00] | beavis: | Chutt: seems daniels looking at it |
| [19:26:00] | Chutt: | he better be, since it's his fault :p |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | fix whatcha broke :) a good rule |
| [19:27:00] | beavis: | Chutt: how's the new Livetv supposed to work? What will happen with all the small files when one's zapping around? I have tons of zap-recordings now |
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| [19:28:00] | Chutt: | they get autoexpired. |
| [19:28:00] | beavis: | but only when there's no space left? |
| [19:28:00] | Chutt: | no, short ones get autoexpired often. |
| [19:28:00] | Chutt: | read the commits list. |
| [19:28:00] | beavis: | i do |
| [19:29:00] | beavis: | but not even one disappeared so far |
| [19:29:00] | Chutt: | this was discussed there, and on the dev list. |
| [19:29:00] | Chutt: | time for you to start debugging, then. |
| [19:29:00] | beavis: | heh, not again :) |
| [19:30:00] | kormoc: | that reminds me, the do not record when there is less then x free space left on the device should work fine over samba/nfs right? |
| [19:30:00] | beavis: | the last weeks Ive been debugging for daniel, yesterday for geoff :) |
| [19:31:00] | markc: | dumb question: does mythtv support h.264 ? |
| [19:31:00] | Chutt: | yes. |
| [19:32:00] | markc: | cool |
| [19:32:00] | Chutt: | of course, most people don't have the cpu required to play it. |
| [19:34:00] | beavis: | I only see two issues left with the new livetv, rewinding's pretty buggy and it sporadically doesn't accept any keypresses at all |
| [19:35:00] | Chutt: | read the commits list |
| [19:35:00] | beavis: | I do |
| [19:35:00] | Chutt: | it doesn't accept keypresses when it's changing files. |
| [19:35:00] | beavis: | i don't have big files |
| [19:35:00] | Chutt: | what's that have to do with anything? |
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| [19:37:00] | beavis: | it's only changing files if they're quite big or when a new recording starts, but it's not the case when livetv is even started |
| [19:38:00] | Chutt: | it changes files whenever the program changes |
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| [19:38:00] | Chutt: | or you change the channel |
| [19:38:00] | Chutt: | or input |
| [19:38:00] | Chutt: | whenever there's playback over those boundaries. |
| [19:38:00] | beavis: | but it should let me press anything after a few seconds |
| [19:38:00] | Chutt: | it takes a bit of time for the ringbuffer to drain of the old file. |
| [19:38:00] | beavis: | I was only able to kill the FE |
| [19:39:00] | beavis: | I'll retest it when the BE is fixed |
| [19:41:00] | beavis: | how long's your todo list until you reactivate livetv? |
| [19:41:00] | Chutt: | dev list |
| [19:41:00] | Chutt: | one item. |
| [19:44:00] | DonLKSAB: | ANyone know if i have to do something special to get Wide res out from a DVI on a nVidia card? |
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| [19:46:00] | Chutt: | all you do is set the proper resolution. |
| [19:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cool. Zap2it actually sent me an expiration notice this time |
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| [19:56:00] | xris: | wow |
| [19:56:00] | xris: | doubt I'll get one. |
| [19:56:00] | xris: | mine probably expired months ago |
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| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | I caught mine with 5 days to go |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | no email that I saw, but it mighta been spam-marked |
| [20:00:00] | xris: | I like the no-email bit with LxM... but wish they'd have panned out for other stuff. |
| [20:00:00] | xris: | would have been nice to see the bounty system go into place, etc. |
| [20:01:00] | stoffel_: | it didn't happen? |
| [20:01:00] | xris: | I haven't seen it |
| [20:02:00] | xris: | site is pretty dead |
| [20:02:00] | laga: | i've never heard anything about it. |
| [20:02:00] | laga: | xris: quite crappy. |
| [20:03:00] | sphing: | anyone gotten usb working with cable boxes? |
| [20:03:00] | xris: | laga: not much good to europeans |
| [20:03:00] | laga: | xris: oh. new features in mythtv are good for everyone ;) |
| [20:03:00] | xris: | that much, ues |
| [20:03:00] | xris: | yes |
| [20:07:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: do you have nuvexportrc that you post on phaze? |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | xris: not much use to non-Yanks |
| [20:08:00] | xris: | Beirdo: thought they did canada, too |
| [20:08:00] | xris: | but yes. |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | if they had offered service to Canada, they might have got some of my money |
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| [20:13:00] | sphing: | where can i get doc on nuvexports |
| [20:14:00] | xris: | in the .nuvexportrc |
| [20:15:00] | sphing: | ha... i didnt realize there was a copy in /etc/ |
| [20:15:00] | xris: | tried to make it as self-explanatory as possible |
| [20:16:00] | xris: | I should add something that copies the one in /etc/ to your homedir when you run it the first time |
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| [21:04:00] | cosmo_: | are scan converters neccessarily worse in quality than a direct video out for an nvidia card? |
| [21:09:00] | robbie: | no |
| [21:09:00] | robbie: | cheap ones can be |
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| [21:14:00] | cosmo_: | well, if you had a cheap card that plays fullscreen video well, but lacks a tvout port, would you get a $30 card that does have tvout, or a $40 scan converter, just in case you ever needed one ;) |
| [21:14:00] | cosmo_: | --for some other use |
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| [22:09:00] | r10: | hi |
| [22:11:00] | r10: | every time I try to start mythbackend I get "Unable to connect to database" but the database have been started, and I have run "mysql -u root < mc.sql" and "grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv";" |
| [22:11:00] | r10: | what is the problem ? |
| [22:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Did you tell the backend where MySQL is listening? |
| [22:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Is MySQL actually listening via TCP/IP? |
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| [22:13:00] | r10: | Krazylegz: mysql is on the same box |
| [22:14:00] | Krazylegz: | Good for it. |
| [22:14:00] | bill2or3: | is the socket where it expects it? |
| [22:14:00] | r10: | bill2or3: how do I chech if it is ? |
| [22:15:00] | bill2or3: | find the socket, find where it expects it.. |
| [22:15:00] | bill2or3: | see if they agree. |
| [22:15:00] | bill2or3: | mine is /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock |
| [22:17:00] | r10: | bill2or3: I have mysql.sock in /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock |
| [22:20:00] | r10: | when I try to " mysql -u mythtv mythconverg" I get "Access denied", isn't this the problem? |
| [22:21:00] | bill2or3: | doesn't it require a password? |
| [22:21:00] | r10: | bill2or3: I also get "(Using password: NO)"... |
| [22:21:00] | bill2or3: | maybe you should be using one. |
| [22:21:00] | Krazylegz: | Try "mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg" |
| [22:23:00] | r10: | Krazylegz: when I get connet to the database (with mythtv as pass), but I still get "Unable to connect to database", when i try to start mythbackend |
| [22:25:00] | Krazylegz: | First, I think you still need TCP/IP setup. Second, you should make sure that mythtv-setup was done correct, telling mythbackend how to properly connect to the database. |
| [22:25:00] | Krazylegz: | Actually, do those steps in the opposite order. |
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| [22:27:00] | r10: | Krazylegz: what do u meen with "TCP/IP setup" (I have network on the box (I am controlling it via ssh) |
| [22:28:00] | Krazylegz: | MySQL no longer listens on TCP by default. |
| [22:28:00] | Krazylegz: | So, you may need to enable that. |
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| [22:28:00] | Krazylegz: | Do you know how to check if it's listening? |
| [22:28:00] | r10: | Krazylegz: no... |
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| [22:29:00] | Krazylegz: | As root, do netstat -lp . |
| [22:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Actually, do this: netstat -lp | grep mysql |
| [22:30:00] | r10: | KraMer: I have mysqld-max Listening |
| [22:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Interesting. Do netstat -l | grep 3306 . |
| [22:31:00] | r10: | Krazylegz: nothing |
| [22:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah, then it's just listening on a Unix socket. |
| [22:31:00] | Krazylegz: | You'll have to edit your my.cnf file. Find the line marked: #skip-networking and remove the #. |
| [22:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Which distro? |
| [22:32:00] | r10: | Krazylegz: Mandrake 10.0 |
| [22:32:00] | Krazylegz: | Isn't Mandrake called Mandriva now? |
| [22:33:00] | r10: | Krazylegz: yes it is, and I do not have my.cnf on my box |
| [22:33:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm. Then you'll have to figure out where my.cnf is supposed to be for your distro. |
| [22:34:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. Try editing /etc/sysconfig/mysqld . |
| [22:35:00] | r10: | Krazylegz: I do not have mysqld i in sysconfig |
| [22:36:00] | Krazylegz: | Well then you're on your own, but you're looking for skip-networking. You need to comment it out. |
| [22:36:00] | r10: | Krazylegz: ok |
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| [22:41:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: /etc/my.cnf |
| [22:42:00] | xris: | afaik, it's always in /etc |
| [22:43:00] | purplefrog: | http://thomashawk.com/2005/11/hot-donkey-prem . . . hdtv-in.html Microsoft is getting CableCard support. I wonder if MythTV will be able to ride their coattails. |
| [22:46:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: Mine on KnoppMyth is in /etc/mysql/my.cnf, but he said that it's not on his system. |
| [22:47:00] | Krazylegz: | Though, I think it has to be somewhere. |
| [22:47:00] | xris: | doesn't need one. |
| [22:47:00] | xris: | just works better with one. |
| [22:47:00] | xris: | mandriva isn't exactly designed as a server OS, either. |
| [22:51:00] | fryfrog: | i don't spose anyone knows when live tv will be back in svn? |
| [22:51:00] | fryfrog: | with workin dvb? |
| [22:51:00] | fryfrog: | i'm thinking a few weeks, from email list? |
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| [23:08:00] | maino82: | does anyone here have any tips on converting nuv files to divx, xvid or the like? any favorite ways to do it perhaps? |
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| [23:19:00] | Juski: | don't know if anyone's ever noticed this before, but... the gallery view in mythvideo crashes if it can't find the bitmaps used in its grid |
| [23:21:00] | Juski: | (not that anyone *is* likely to notice that unless they're trying to change them) |
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| [23:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | many parts of the theme code can cause that |
| [23:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've done it mysef by mistake |
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| [23:23:00] | defy: | can encoded video formats like divx be put into mythtv's recorded shows database? to be watched along with all of the stuff recorded off a pvr? |
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| [23:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | defy: sure, but why bother? |
| [23:24:00] | kormoc: | defy, mythvideo works well |
| [23:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just dump them in somewhere that mythvideo points too |
| [23:25:00] | defy: | ahh okay, I havent installed mythtv in a long time, last time i did mythvideo wasnt working, I'll give that a shot today, thanks |
| [23:25:00] | defy: | i assume it can handle samba and nfs shares? |
| [23:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythvideo knows nothing about any of that |
| [23:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | that's all done at the OS level |
| [23:26:00] | defy: | I'm just hoping to completely replace my xbox with xbmc with a mythtv machine |
| [23:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's just a bunch of directotries to mythvideo |
| [23:26:00] | defy: | yea but I mean, you can feed it a directory thats an nfs share and it'll work fine right? |
| [23:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | certainly |
| [23:26:00] | defy: | sweet |
| [23:27:00] | defy: | any opinions on which distro makes for the easiest myth install? |
| [23:28:00] | Krazylegz: | KnoppMyth! |
| [23:28:00] | defy: | yea? is that the bootable cd? |
| [23:29:00] | Krazylegz: | No, I think that's MiniMyth? |
| [23:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | defy: Some like knoppmyth. But the best choice is whatever you are nmost familiar with |
| [23:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Though, you can run a frontend off of KnoppMyth CDs. |
| [23:30:00] | defy: | GreyFoxx true, well linux is linux so it makes no difference to me really, although i'd prefer to avoid a day of installing from srcs |
| [23:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | defy: To each their own I guess :) |
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| [23:44:00] | simon_c: | Hi all. I'm trying to get my DVB card working in myth. I'm using the instruction at www.ethics-gradient.net/myth, but I can't get the DVB card to detect the channels. |
| [23:45:00] | simon_c: | The card it self is working, cos I can use tzap and dvdscan | mplayer to tune and view broadcasts outside of myth. |
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| [23:49:00] | Rhamphoryncus: | So mythtv has started beeping every time I hit fast forward/rewind/pause/mute (but with a REALLY annoying 1 second delay), and I think it started when I turned on sounds in gnome.. any idea how to turn it off, which disabling all gnome sounds? |
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| [23:51:00] | Rhamphoryncus: | and it's the gnome "Choose menu item" sound, but I tried changing which file gnome used and it had no effect on mythtv.. |
| [23:52:00] | ** simon_c uses kde sprry ** | |
| [23:52:00] | simon_c: | sorry |
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| [23:53:00] | Rhamphoryncus: | it seems really odd that it uses gnome sounds when you realize that it's qt-based.. |
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| [23:58:00] | theguyhim: | a |
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