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| [00:00:00] | simon_c: | travolta-: I've no idea how to tell the version on nuvexport either. Cos there's about 40 tarballs on their site. and I've *no* idea when they changed it to work with (presumably) the newer database structure in svn. |
| [00:00:00] | simon_c: | travolta-: svcd or dvd, it's still got to be converted to mpeg2 hasn't it ? |
| [00:01:00] | travolta-: | yea |
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| [00:01:00] | travolta-: | i've never done burning to dvd, i'm waiting till its nice and easy to do within mythtv interface |
| [00:02:00] | tremendous: | that'd be nice. record off tv and stick it straight on a dvd |
| [00:02:00] | simon_c: | tremendous: Yep. |
| [00:03:00] | travolta-: | on my wishlist is also to export to psp/ipod within mthtv interface too :) |
| [00:03:00] | tremendous: | since i'm gonna have dvb-t does that mean it just records the mpeg2 data it's getting from the aerial straight to hdd? |
| [00:03:00] | tremendous: | and therefore it could go straight onto a dvd afterwards? |
| [00:03:00] | simon_c: | tremendous: I think so. |
| [00:04:00] | tremendous: | kormoc, i did that command and there's /bin/sh /usr/bin/startkde and grep art |
| [00:04:00] | simon_c: | tremendous: I've got a nova-t card to add to my box when I get a chance, wich is mpg2, but that still woudln't help me for these programs, cos they came from VHS. |
| [00:04:00] | tremendous: | would it matter that i'm doing it via vnc, come to think of it? |
| [00:04:00] | simon_c: | [sigh] |
| [00:05:00] | kormoc: | tremendous, nah, no difference, and that's fine, you just didn't want say artsd running |
| [00:05:00] | tremendous: | simon_c yeah i understand |
| [00:05:00] | tremendous: | kormoc ok thanks. any other ideas re the sound issue? |
| [00:06:00] | tremendous: | kind of ruins scary movies – it happens and you hear it a tad later :) |
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| [00:06:00] | tremendous: | or could you suggest another channel where they might know a little more (since the sound's late in plain kde) |
| [00:07:00] | simon_c: | tremendous: What's the situation with sound ? |
| [00:07:00] | mofu: | tremendous: is this a desktop or a mythbox? |
| [00:08:00] | tremendous: | the situation is that all sound is half a second late. i'm not sure if that's exact but it seems pretty damn close. it's fedora 4 |
| [00:08:00] | tremendous: | will be a myth box, but sorta isn't yet |
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| [00:08:00] | simon_c: | tremendous: So on playback the sounds is half a seccond out from the video ? |
| [00:08:00] | mofu: | if it's a mythbox then get rid of kde . . . . use something MUCH lighter . . . . |
| [00:09:00] | tremendous: | people were suggesting knoppmyth yesterday, and i'm going to try that if i get nowhere with this installation |
| [00:09:00] | tremendous: | but i'm new to linux and so wanted something easy to use underneath, where i can run firefox and other programs |
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| [00:10:00] | simon_c: | I tried using WMs other than KDE, but I had even less luck configuring them to auto-start and to be able to VNC into them. |
| [00:10:00] | mofu: | you can still run a other programs on lightweight window manager |
| [00:10:00] | tremendous: | simon_c yes playback is behind – but this isn't just when playing video – eg when an error box pops up – the sound is late for that too |
| [00:10:00] | simon_c: | was a case of one learning curve to clime at a time. |
| [00:10:00] | kormoc: | tremendous, you could try ubuntu |
| [00:11:00] | tremendous: | kormoc what's that? another window manager? |
| [00:11:00] | kormoc: | no, another distro |
| [00:11:00] | kormoc: | ment to be super user friendly and all that jazz |
| [00:11:00] | simon_c: | with system sounds, especially on a box that's busy, they can oftain be late. So it's not nessisarrily the same reason. |
| [00:11:00] | Servo888: | top |
| [00:11:00] | mofu: | no, a Debian based distro, I'd agree, I'd recommend that over KnoppMyth actually |
| [00:11:00] | simon_c: | tremendous: I *think* there's something in the docs about sound being out of time. |
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| [00:12:00] | tremendous: | simon_c i really think it's the same problem everywhere, since it's the same delay everywhere |
| [00:12:00] | tremendous: | really? i did have a look and didn't find anything |
| [00:12:00] | tremendous: | the mythtv manual you mean? |
| [00:12:00] | tremendous: | or fedora |
| [00:12:00] | simon_c: | tremendous: Myth docs. I'm not 100% sure, but I *think* there's something in there. |
| [00:13:00] | tremendous: | i actually combed it pretty well for sound issues, didn't find anything of use. i'll look again though. thanks.3 |
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| [00:20:00] | simon_c: | Bingo !!!! |
| [00:22:00] | tremendous: | one dvd? |
| [00:22:00] | simon_c: | It looks like, instead of cleanly dropping through when there's no "basename" collumn in the recorded table, it's quiting. I've managed to hack it, to drop through anyway, so lets hope the rest works ;-) |
| [00:22:00] | simon_c: | tremendous: still a while away from a DVD yet. :-) |
| [00:22:00] | tremendous: | oh. thought you were doing your dvd thing |
| [00:22:00] | kormoc: | simon_c, might want to talk to the author of nuvexport, xris. |
| [00:22:00] | simon_c: | I'm trying. The first step is getting nuvexport working :-) |
| [00:22:00] | simon_c: | kormoc: I'll keep an eye out, Thanks. |
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| [00:24:00] | Kleptophobiac: | good evening |
| [00:24:00] | tremendous: | hello |
| [00:24:00] | Kleptophobiac: | does anybody here run mythtv svn and mysql 5.0.x? |
| [00:27:00] | tremendous: | general alsa question: any idea if i can make the DSP invert the surround L and R channels before outputting them? i'm pretty sure speakers are inverting them on arrival before mixing with the front l/r signals and so canceling out bass sounds. (the front and rear signals are the same when playing mp3s etc) |
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| [00:28:00] | Kleptophobiac: | wouldn't it be easier to just switch the L and R speaker plugs? |
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| [00:28:00] | tremendous: | no – by invert i mean flip the waveform upside down |
| [00:28:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it really doesn't matter |
| [00:28:00] | mofu: | flip +/- |
| [00:28:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it's a sinusoid |
| [00:28:00] | tremendous: | not reversing the left and right channels |
| [00:28:00] | travolta-: | switch the +/- |
| [00:29:00] | mofu: | lol |
| [00:29:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah, why does it matter? |
| [00:30:00] | tremendous: | the front and rear signals are the same when playing mp3s etc, and the preamp in the sub is mixing FR, FL, SR and SL to produce a bass signal. if the front 2 are opposite to the back 2 the low frequencies will cancel |
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| [00:30:00] | tremendous: | it seems to be flipping it itself for some reason, and so i want to get there first and flip it before outputting |
| [00:31:00] | mofu: | you should drop the surround mixing for bass if possible |
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| [00:31:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah, that's a bad way to go |
| [00:31:00] | Kleptophobiac: | you should have a dedicated LFE channel |
| [00:31:00] | tremendous: | yeah i'm doing that at the moment, but it's not perfect |
| [00:31:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and I think the only way to do that in software would be to hand edit the alsa src code |
| [00:31:00] | tremendous: | well yeah there is in surround sound audio, but not in stereo |
| [00:31:00] | Kleptophobiac: | then why do the rear to speakers matter? |
| [00:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | if it's mixing nothing and something, it'll get something |
| [00:32:00] | kormoc: | likly the .asoundrc file can do it |
| [00:32:00] | tremendous: | Kleptophobiac true usually if alsa only has a stereo signal to output it'll just send it to the front two speakers, but there's a switch to copy it to the rear two too |
| [00:33:00] | tremendous: | otherwise they sit and do nothing |
| [00:33:00] | tremendous: | :) |
| [00:33:00] | tremendous: | kormoc i'll check that file out |
| [00:33:00] | tremendous: | thanks |
| [00:33:00] | tremendous: | where is it? |
| [00:33:00] | Chutt: | better to just output to the fronts and let a prologic decoder make the rears |
| [00:33:00] | simcop2387: | tremendous: could probably create an alsa plugin like dmix to do it |
| [00:33:00] | tremendous: | |
| [00:34:00] | tremendous: | haha |
| [00:34:00] | poonj: | hey guys, anyone here own a PCHDTV-3000> |
| [00:34:00] | tremendous: | simcop2387 do you mean write my own plugin, or customise this dmix somehow? |
| [00:34:00] | poonj: | and have it working? |
| [00:34:00] | kormoc: | tremendous, you put it in your home directory |
| [00:34:00] | mofu: | poonj: yep, w/ qam256 |
| [00:35:00] | kormoc: | it's where you would setup dmix and what not |
| [00:35:00] | poonj: | mofu: I'm trying to do ATSC...i had it working before but all of a sudden it no longer works. I believe I upgraded myth before it stoped working.. |
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| [00:36:00] | poonj: | is there something I have to do after upgrading myth? |
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| [00:36:00] | poonj: | do I have to install the pchdtv-extras from the pchdtv website? |
| [00:36:00] | poonj: | I'm not too clear as to what I need to do to get it working again! |
| [00:36:00] | tremendous: | kormoc i'm confused – the file doesn't exist already? |
| [00:36:00] | mofu: | poonj: are you using dvb drivers |
| [00:36:00] | mofu: | ? |
| [00:36:00] | poonj: | yeah |
| [00:36:00] | kormoc: | tremendous, likly not, no |
| [00:36:00] | poonj: | from driver standpoint, I believe its working |
| [00:36:00] | poonj: | I have a dvb interface |
| [00:36:00] | tremendous: | right thanks kormoc |
| [00:37:00] | poonj: | thats recognized by myth and exists in /dev/dvb |
| [00:37:00] | mofu: | did you choose dvb or hd3000 in setup? |
| [00:37:00] | tremendous: | i've just typed cat with no argument by accident. now it's just echoing everything i say, how can i stop it? :) |
| [00:37:00] | poonj: | dvb |
| [00:37:00] | mofu: | ok |
| [00:38:00] | mofu: | should work, what's it doing? |
| [00:38:00] | poonj: | well |
| [00:38:00] | poonj: | it can't get a signal |
| [00:39:00] | poonj: | when I scan for channels, it locks and it says signal is lost |
| [00:40:00] | mofu: | have you used dvb tools to scan and check signal strength outside myth? |
| [00:40:00] | simcop2387: | tremendous: write your own |
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| [00:40:00] | tremendous: | ah i'd love to but unfortunately i wouldn't know where to begin. |
| [00:40:00] | simcop2387: | tremendous: once you learn the api, inverting the waveform would be simple, just do a twos complement if its signed, xor 0xFFFF if not |
| [00:40:00] | simcop2387: | same here |
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| [00:42:00] | tremendous: | i have these great drivers for my soundblaster on my xp machine called the kx drivers. they give you total control of what happens in the dsp. it's brilliant. |
| [00:42:00] | tremendous: | really easy to route signals all over the place |
| [00:42:00] | poonj: | mofo |
| [00:42:00] | poonj: | mofu |
| [00:42:00] | poonj: | heh, sorry about that |
| [00:42:00] | poonj: | that didn't come out righht...but for the dvb tools |
| [00:43:00] | poonj: | I don't know how to check signal strength |
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| [00:43:00] | poonj: | is there a howto on how to use the tools? |
| [00:43:00] | poonj: | there is azap, czap....its confusing... |
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| [00:45:00] | PaulWay: | Who here trusts the values they see from lm-sensors? |
| [00:47:00] | Kleptophobiac: | not I |
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| [00:49:00] | PaulWay: | I'm getting _very_ weird values on the voltage lines from sensors, yet when I stick a multimeter on the ATX plug everything is pretty much rock solid. |
| [00:49:00] | PaulWay: | And this is using the 400W yum-cha brand power supply that I don't really trust. |
| [00:50:00] | tremendous: | i'd trust my multimeter over a computer's internal sensors |
| [00:50:00] | PaulWay: | What's annoying me here is that I'm getting intermittent segfaults on various processes. In particular, long transcode or nuvexport runs crash. |
| [00:51:00] | tremendous: | ever got one while watching the multimeter? |
| [00:51:00] | PaulWay: | It doesn't seem to be temperature related, since I've run that same CPU at 65degC non stop for days in my other system. |
| [00:51:00] | PaulWay: | I'm now trying a different power supply. |
| [00:52:00] | PaulWay: | The old one is an Antec TruePower 380W, and this new one is a no-name 400W that I don't quite trust. |
| [00:52:00] | tremendous: | tried plugging the good psu into this system? |
| [00:52:00] | PaulWay: | sensors is reporting pretty much all voltages in alarm thresholds – 3.3V at 6.9V, etc. |
| [00:52:00] | PaulWay: | No, not yet. |
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| [00:52:00] | Kleptophobiac: | GetNextFreeFrame() served a busy frame |
| [00:53:00] | Kleptophobiac: | what's that mean? |
| [00:53:00] | tremendous: | googled it? |
| [00:53:00] | PaulWay: | no idea, Kleptophobiac |
| [00:53:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah, it's unclear what's the cause |
| [00:53:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it seems associated with both recording on a slow hdd and xvmc (neither of which is my issue) |
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| [00:54:00] | Kleptophobiac: | myth has been giving me nothing but trouble the last few days |
| [00:54:00] | PaulWay: | I've got an Athlon 3000+, three drives, two DVB cards and a GeForce 5200. That shouldn't overload a 380W PSU? |
| [00:54:00] | PaulWay: | Kleptophobiac: what sort of trouble? |
| [00:54:00] | tremendous: | i wouldn't have thought so PaulWay |
| [00:54:00] | PaulWay: | (Curse, I keep on hitting tab to complete ordinary words...) |
| [00:54:00] | PaulWay: | Neither would I. |
| [00:55:00] | PaulWay: | But I don't know what other parts could be causing the problems. |
| [00:55:00] | Kleptophobiac: | 1) I always have little segfault problems with the frontend, so I stick to SVN praying for a fix |
| [00:55:00] | PaulWay: | And I've seen enough untraceable weirdness in systems that's turned out to be fixed when you replace the PSU... |
| [00:55:00] | Kleptophobiac: | 2) recently SVN ate my database and flushed all my recordings |
| [00:55:00] | PaulWay: | What sort of segfault problem? |
| [00:55:00] | PaulWay: | 2) that suxxors... |
| [00:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | segfault at all programs listing after a recording |
| [00:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | or |
| [00:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I should say, after the playback of a recording |
| [00:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but compared to my current issues, that's nothing |
| [00:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I have my "power" button rigged to restart mythfe |
| [00:56:00] | Kleptophobiac: | now |
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| [00:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mythbackend loses connection to the DB for no apparent reason (mysql is still running) and the backend must be restarted |
| [00:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and I get loads of errors while recording |
| [00:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | [mpeg2video @ 0xb761eee4]00 motion_type at 0 28 |
| [00:57:00] | PaulWay: | You have enough CPU time to do the recording? |
| [00:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | [mpeg2video @ 0xb761eee4]00 motion_type at 1 29 |
| [00:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | 2005-11–15 19:57:27.984 GetNextFreeFrame() served a busy frame 1. Dropping. UAAUUAAAUAAAAAAUUUAAUAALUAAAUAA |
| [00:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | 2005-11–15 19:57:28.020 GetNextFreeFrame() served a busy frame F. Dropping. UUUUUUULUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| [00:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | stuff like that |
| [00:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I have a P4 2.8 HT |
| [00:57:00] | PaulWay: | Bizarre. |
| [00:57:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and hauppauge cards |
| [00:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | recording two shows at once gives me 95% idle time |
| [00:58:00] | PaulWay: | So they're doing mjpeg or mpeg2 conversion internally. |
| [00:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah, direct to mpeg2 in hardware |
| [00:58:00] | PaulWay: | I put it down to the fact that it's written in C++. |
| [00:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | why's that? |
| [00:58:00] | Kleptophobiac: | what's wrong with C/C++? |
| [00:58:00] | ** Kleptophobiac loves straight C to pieces ** | |
| [00:58:00] | PaulWay: | C is OK; C++ is a ghastly abomination that should not be. |
| [00:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ok |
| [00:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I never learned C++ |
| [00:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I do C and java |
| [00:59:00] | PaulWay: | If you know Java, you know enough to recognise C++ _and_ you actually know a useful language. |
| [00:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | lol |
| [00:59:00] | Kleptophobiac: | java is a pain in the ass for people like me that like to do low level hardware access |
| [00:59:00] | PaulWay: | I can't believe that there are people out there who think that C++ is a good language to teach people about object orientation. |
| [01:00:00] | PaulWay: | That's because it's _supposed_ to be a PITA for that stuff. |
| [01:00:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I know |
| [01:00:00] | tremendous: | is it not? my uni lecturers think it is |
| [01:00:00] | PaulWay: | Java was never meant to interface to the real world. |
| [01:00:00] | Kleptophobiac: | nope, it wasn't, but it should |
| [01:00:00] | Kleptophobiac: | :) |
| [01:00:00] | Kleptophobiac: | the javax.comm package sucks |
| [01:00:00] | Kleptophobiac: | a big one |
| [01:00:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and yet, I communicate via RS232 on it ok |
| [01:00:00] | PaulWay: | C++ is a heap of ugly, 'this bizarre syntax seemed like a cool thing to do at the time, so let's bolt it into the language' kludges over the top of C. |
| [01:01:00] | PaulWay: | Which was never a nice, friendly language to write in to begin with. |
| [01:01:00] | Kleptophobiac: | :-/ |
| [01:01:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I like C, it's simple |
| [01:01:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and it compiles to this beautiful binary stuff |
| [01:01:00] | Kleptophobiac: | that runs, fast |
| [01:01:00] | PaulWay: | I like C's simplicity and the fact that when you ask for an array like this, it gives you one. |
| [01:01:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I do microcontroller coding in C, and I wouldn't trade it for anything (except asm when I have to do bizarre crap fast) |
| [01:02:00] | Kleptophobiac: | anyway, is there a patch out there to make the .18.2 branch work with mysql 5? |
| [01:02:00] | kormoc: | Kleptophobiac, as for what it compiles to, every compiled language compiles to thie beautiful binary stuff. |
| [01:02:00] | PaulWay: | There's no way the kernel could be so easily maintained and yet so powerful if it wasn't for C's various pointer arithmetic, loop unrolling and bit logic tricks. |
| [01:02:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah, but there aren't that many nice compiled languages any more |
| [01:02:00] | kormoc: | Kleptophobiac, svn should be mysql 5 safe, what's your issue |
| [01:03:00] | PaulWay: | I know; this is the pity. Delphi is about the best I can see. |
| [01:03:00] | PaulWay: | Python would be great if you could compile it down to an executable. |
| [01:03:00] | Kleptophobiac: | kormoc – lots |
| [01:03:00] | kormoc: | Kleptophobiac, such as? |
| [01:03:00] | Kleptophobiac: | 1) backend loses connection to mysql, for no apparent reason |
| [01:03:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mysql is running, and it still loads program listings, but not scheduler information |
| [01:04:00] | Kleptophobiac: | which seems strange, because they occupy the same db on the same mysql server |
| [01:04:00] | kormoc: | mysql and myth logs say? |
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| [01:04:00] | Kleptophobiac: | usual can't connect, kick db junk |
| [01:04:00] | PaulWay: | The reason I'm ranting is that I'm trying to write an IPTV module for mythbackend and trying to understand C++ is the hardest part of it. |
| [01:04:00] | Kleptophobiac: | :-/ |
| [01:04:00] | kormoc: | Kleptophobiac, and mysql's logs? |
| [01:04:00] | ** Kleptophobiac goes to look ** | |
| [01:04:00] | Kleptophobiac: | nothing, no errors |
| [01:05:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mysql seems quite healthy |
| [01:05:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mythbackend is just losing it after a while |
| [01:05:00] | Kleptophobiac: | also, mythbackend ends up sucking down all my ram after a few hours |
| [01:05:00] | kormoc: | have you compiled it with the mysql 5 headers? |
| [01:05:00] | kormoc: | as well as qt? |
| [01:05:00] | PaulWay: | It should be a local socket, so it wouldn't be TCP timeouts... |
| [01:05:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yep |
| [01:05:00] | Kleptophobiac: | qt and mysql are compiled together by the arch linux devs (and they check out, and work well) |
| [01:06:00] | kormoc: | didja turn up log? |
| [01:06:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I'll kick up the verbosity and try again |
| [01:06:00] | kormoc: | *logging level |
| [01:06:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but, mysql doesn't seem to have ANY problems, as I can access it via phpmyadmin or the console even when mythbackend pukes and dies |
| [01:06:00] | kormoc: | yeah, but maybe you can figure out which query is doing it |
| [01:07:00] | PaulWay: | good thinking, kormoc |
| [01:07:00] | kormoc: | once you can say, 'SELECT BLAH BLAH' crashes it, people can figure out why |
| [01:07:00] | Kleptophobiac: | anything in scheduled, recorded, or anything except logs and listings |
| [01:07:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but hold on a sec |
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| [01:07:00] | PaulWay: | do you need to do a vacuum on those tables or something? |
| [01:07:00] | kormoc: | Kleptophobiac, I do know of people who are running myth svn + mysql 5 just fine. |
| [01:07:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ok |
| [01:07:00] | PaulWay: | I can't remember whether it's mysql or postgres that you need to do this semi-regular 'clean up the tables' voodoo on... |
| [01:07:00] | Kleptophobiac: | oh dear lord, my mythbackend log file is 13 MB |
| [01:08:00] | PaulWay: | Is that all? |
| [01:08:00] | PaulWay: | Mine's 100MB. |
| [01:08:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I deleted it this morning! |
| [01:08:00] | kormoc: | PaulWay, you mean the optimize table blah? |
| [01:08:00] | PaulWay: | Yeah, something like that. |
| [01:08:00] | kormoc: | that's mysql |
| [01:08:00] | PaulWay: | I haven't had to do that in a while. |
| [01:08:00] | PaulWay: | Admittedly mine is from March... |
| [01:08:00] | kormoc: | you never *have* to, but it just slows down more and more if you don't |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | well, really, it should only slow to a point... |
| [01:09:00] | PaulWay: | I know. It's silly, really. |
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| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | nah, the idea is to schedule it to do so at a time when the db isn't under heavy load |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | rather then doing it on the fly |
| [01:09:00] | Kleptophobiac: | 2005-11–15 10:59:41.316 Channel(/dev/v4l/video0): SetFormat(Default) fmt(NTSC) input(6) |
| [01:09:00] | Kleptophobiac: | 2005-11–15 10:59:41.334 DB Error (KickDatabase): |
| [01:09:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Query was: |
| [01:09:00] | Kleptophobiac: | SELECT NULL; |
| [01:09:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Driver error was [2/2006]: |
| [01:09:00] | Kleptophobiac: | QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query |
| [01:09:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Database error was: |
| [01:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | MySQL server has gone away |
| [01:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | |
| [01:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | 2005-11–15 10:59:41.389 DB Error (KickDatabase): |
| [01:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | Query was: |
| [01:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | argh, that was bigger than I had hoped |
| [01:10:00] | PaulWay: | And some day I'll find out why transcode seems to always end up at 5 fps, no matter what options I use. |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | SELECT NULL? |
| [01:10:00] | ** kormoc raises an eyebrow. ** | |
| [01:10:00] | PaulWay: | Yeah, that's pretty bizarre. |
| [01:10:00] | xanderp: | gentoo lirc compile problems: cannot get past this: include/linux/interrupt.h:30: error: conflicting types for `irqreturn_t' |
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| [01:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | SELECT frequency, modulation FROM dtv_multiplex WHERE mplexid=32767 |
| [01:10:00] | PaulWay: | What was the last query that worked? |
| [01:10:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and that's the next one that died |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | xanderp, http://bugs.gentoo.org |
| [01:11:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mythfilldatabase worked right before that |
| [01:11:00] | xanderp: | kormoc: will read, thanks |
| [01:11:00] | kormoc: | Kleptophobiac, start running them by hand one at a time in the mysql client and see if you can get it to barf |
| [01:11:00] | Kleptophobiac: | that's the crazy part, I did |
| [01:12:00] | kormoc: | on what query? |
| [01:12:00] | Kleptophobiac: | SELECT frequency, modulation FROM dtv_multiplex WHERE mplexid=32767 |
| [01:12:00] | ** kormoc raises an eyebrow. ** | |
| [01:12:00] | kormoc: | what's the mysql client saying? |
| [01:12:00] | Kleptophobiac: | query ok, return 0 |
| [01:12:00] | PaulWay: | As a reference point, I (with two DVB cards, five transports and a dozen or more channels) have five mplexids, 1, 2, 3, 4, and (wait for it) 5. |
| [01:12:00] | Kleptophobiac: | (I don't use dtv) |
| [01:13:00] | PaulWay: | Yeah, that's what I thought. |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | Kleptophobiac, that's not a barf. |
| [01:13:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah, but it works in the console, and it can't connect to the db in mythbackend |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | hih |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | huh |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | permissions correct? |
| [01:13:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yep |
| [01:13:00] | Kleptophobiac: | same db as has been working for months (minus a bunch of recordings) |
| [01:14:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and it does the same thing on my test mysql server (clean db) |
| [01:14:00] | Kleptophobiac: | freshly imported mc.sql |
| [01:14:00] | PaulWay: | Speaking of which, I should do a dump of the database every night just in case some day something goes tragically wrong. |
| [01:14:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ...the database gets huge |
| [01:14:00] | Kleptophobiac: | like hundreds of megs |
| [01:14:00] | kormoc: | that's not that huge |
| [01:14:00] | PaulWay: | Yeah, it's those markup tables. |
| [01:15:00] | PaulWay: | Well, it is on a single-machine, single-user database... |
| [01:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | anyway, I have a bazillion select nulls for some reason |
| [01:15:00] | PaulWay: | 'Select null' is usually a way of a database driver testing whether it's still got a connection. |
| [01:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ok |
| [01:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | well, it fails (mysql is still running, I'm still in console) |
| [01:15:00] | kormoc: | and yeah, should never cause an issue |
| [01:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and mythbackend seems unhappy |
| [01:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | 1: start_time: 0.026 duration: 243.406 |
| [01:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | stream: start_time: 0.289 duration: 2704.846 bitrate=5193 kb/s |
| [01:15:00] | Kleptophobiac: | 2005-11–15 20:15:10.400 Event socket closed. No connection to the backend. |
| [01:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and I have several megabytes of these |
| [01:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | [mpeg2video @ 0xb761eee4]00 motion_type at 28 28 |
| [01:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | [mpeg2video @ 0xb761eee4]00 motion_type at 9 29 |
| [01:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | 2005-11–15 20:08:35.458 GetNextFreeFrame() served a busy frame 5. Dropping. AAAALAAAAAUUUAAAAAAAAUAAAAUAAUA |
| [01:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | 2005-11–15 20:08:35.505 GetNextFreeFrame() served a busy frame 4. Dropping. UUUUUUUUUUUUULUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| [01:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | which didn't happen before |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | Kleptophobiac, hate to say so, but given mysql dies itself, it's a mysql issue, not a myth issue |
| [01:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | mysql DOES NOT DIE |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | ... |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | you just said it kicked you to the console |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | mysql died, mysqld did not |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | correct? |
| [01:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | neither died |
| [01:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | myth died on its query of mysql |
| [01:16:00] | Kleptophobiac: | sorry if I wasn't clear |
| [01:17:00] | PaulWay: | I don't know what that A, L and U stuff is, they're not regular MPEG2 frames... (should be I, P and B) |
| [01:17:00] | kormoc: | and when you're in mysql doing those querys, you can't make it kick? |
| [01:17:00] | Kleptophobiac: | no, it works a treat |
| [01:17:00] | xanderp: | kormoc: thanks, bugzilla searched for lirc compile and someone else said that they were having problems with current lirc. I will try the prerelease. |
| [01:17:00] | Kleptophobiac: | returns proper results, couldn't be happier |
| [01:18:00] | kormoc: | Kleptophobiac, do it over and over again a bunch of times, say the adverage time mythbackend says connected |
| [01:18:00] | Kleptophobiac: | it is rather random |
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| [01:18:00] | Kleptophobiac: | depends on recording |
| [01:18:00] | Kleptophobiac: | if it doesn't record, it stays up for a while |
| [01:18:00] | Kleptophobiac: | if it records, it dies quickly |
| [01:18:00] | Kleptophobiac: | never more than 3 hours |
| [01:19:00] | simcop2387: | you know what i'd like? user based recording, e.g. userA can record any show at all, userB can only record shows <=TV14, userC can only use tuners1&2, userD can only watch livetv, etc |
| [01:19:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I don't see how you would separate users |
| [01:19:00] | kormoc: | you sure your myth is linked to the same qt you're running right now? |
| [01:19:00] | Kleptophobiac: | you would have to authenticate every person that tries to do something |
| [01:19:00] | PaulWay: | If it drops the connection to the database, it's probably dying because it can't write to the recordedmarkup table. |
| [01:19:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah |
| [01:19:00] | kormoc: | Kleptophobiac, login before allowing frontend access |
| [01:19:00] | xanderp: | i spent 3 days doing emerge --update --deep --newuse world just to find out it was a bug... <grunt> |
| [01:19:00] | PaulWay: | Well, a simple username and password supplied to the backend would do that. |
| [01:20:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I mean, you would have to authenticate people trying to add recordings |
| [01:20:00] | kormoc: | Kleptophobiac, nah, it would be better to do it on playback |
| [01:20:00] | Kleptophobiac: | he wanted only certain people to make a recording |
| [01:20:00] | Kleptophobiac: | not a playback |
| [01:21:00] | PaulWay: | Have each frontend supply a username and password (or an authentication token) on each write. |
| [01:21:00] | PaulWay: | It's possible, it just means quite a large restructuring of things. |
| [01:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yeah, but I know I wouldn't want to enter a pw every time I tried to do something |
| [01:21:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and that's a lot of code |
| [01:21:00] | PaulWay: | Which is always the way when you introduce a new concept (e.g. 'users'). |
| [01:21:00] | kormoc: | sure, but if you only check on playback, it would be easier and work too |
| [01:21:00] | PaulWay: | You wouldn't have to enter a password, you just train your users to log out of their front ends when they leave them. |
| [01:22:00] | PaulWay: | Otherwise their brothers and sisters use their connections. |
| [01:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | ...you would have people log into the family room television? that'd be a little weird |
| [01:22:00] | PaulWay: | (guesses simcop2387 is dealing with children or similar untrusted hosts) |
| [01:22:00] | PaulWay: | Well, no weirder than anything else that MythTV allows you to do... |
| [01:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | haha, true |
| [01:22:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but at least it's tivolike |
| [01:23:00] | simcop2387: | PaulWay: i'm thinking of how i might setup an automated recording delivery service, and it'd also be useful for parents with children (e.g. Timmy can watch porno but Jane can't) |
| [01:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | lol |
| [01:23:00] | PaulWay: | You'd let Timmy watch porno? Jeez, he's 9! |
| [01:24:00] | PaulWay: | :-) |
| [01:24:00] | xanderp: | but Jane is addicted... that's why |
| [01:24:00] | simcop2387: | Jane's only 11! |
| [01:24:00] | simcop2387: | lol |
| [01:24:00] | xanderp: | www.covenanteyes.com (but doesn't work on linux) |
| [01:25:00] | PaulWay: | The problem would be integrating it with the current behaviour, so you can have the current 'no users' behaviour and then those that want to can switch to 'each front end has to log in with a username and password' mode |
| [01:25:00] | Kleptophobiac: | well, the "no users" behavior would be one superuser with auto-login |
| [01:25:00] | PaulWay: | I love 'virtually impossible to circumvent'. |
| [01:25:00] | simcop2387: | well the whole thing would be completely optional and the default behavoir would obviously be the current simple model |
| [01:25:00] | PaulWay: | Kleptophobiac: yes, true. |
| [01:26:00] | xanderp: | PaulWay: i missed part of the conversation, is the discussion having the frontends not stay connected to the mysql backend all the time? |
| [01:26:00] | PaulWay: | xanderp: Yeah, Kleptophobiac's having that problem. |
| [01:26:00] | simcop2387: | why would you want them to disconnect? |
| [01:26:00] | Kleptophobiac: | actually, the backend loses the connection while the frontend keeps on chugging |
| [01:26:00] | xanderp: | odd |
| [01:26:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and the backend runs on the same machine as mysql |
| [01:27:00] | simcop2387: | that is odd |
| [01:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | yep |
| [01:27:00] | simcop2387: | GreyFoxx: you said that using the internal player for video was available in 0.18 i don't see it |
| [01:27:00] | Kleptophobiac: | but I really don't understand all these mpeg2 errors |
| [01:27:00] | xanderp: | mythbackend <=> mysql is dropping, not mythfrontend <=> mysql? VERY wierd |
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| [01:28:00] | PaulWay: | xanderp: I bet any determined 12 year old could get around it in seconds. |
| [01:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | simcop2387: I'm 99% sure witout looking at the code that it was an option in 0.18. but it has been almost 7 months since I last used what was 0.18 :) |
| [01:28:00] | simcop2387: | i don't think it is, though i could be missing it |
| [01:28:00] | Kleptophobiac: | I would use .18.2, but it isn't friendly with mysql 5 |
| [01:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | It is there |
| [01:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just looked and the code is there |
| [01:28:00] | simcop2387: | anyway how well does it handle ogm's mkv's and odd codecs? |
| [01:28:00] | simcop2387: | hmm |
| [01:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | No clue. It will play whatever libavcodec/ffmpeg plays |
| [01:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't have any ogms or mkvs so it's never been an issue for me |
| [01:29:00] | Kleptophobiac: | oops it just died |
| [01:29:00] | PaulWay: | Well, I might mosey on off to finish up making my workbench. |
| [01:29:00] | xanderp: | PaulWay: I think that the system is designed so that if it is turned off, the person that gets your logs doens't get your logs, so they still know you are doing SOMETHING. |
| [01:29:00] | Kleptophobiac: | 2005-11–15 20:15:10.400 Event socket closed. No connection to the backend. |
| [01:29:00] | Kleptophobiac: | [mpeg2video @ 0xb75c1ee4]ac-tex damaged at 28 7 |
| [01:29:00] | Kleptophobiac: | [mpeg2video @ 0xb75c1ee4]Warning MVs not available |
| [01:29:00] | Kleptophobiac: | 2005-11–15 20:29:07.344 Connection timed out. |
| [01:29:00] | Kleptophobiac: | You probably should modify the Master Server |
| [01:29:00] | Kleptophobiac: | settings in the setup program and set the |
| [01:29:00] | Kleptophobiac: | proper IP address. |
| [01:29:00] | Kleptophobiac: | and that master server IP is correct |
| [01:29:00] | PaulWay: | Just have to work out how to put the drawers in. |
| [01:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | simcop2387: In fact in the Help field of mythvideos Default player setup it mentions using "Internal" |
| [01:30:00] | PaulWay: | xanderp: Well, that's not much of a help. |
| [01:30:00] | PaulWay: | It's a nice idea, though. But no better than parents or whoever just looking over the proxy logs of a decent transparent proxy. |
| [01:30:00] | simcop2387: | GreyFoxx: ah so thats why i kept missing it i kept looking for an option named that |
| [01:30:00] | xanderp: | PaulWay: it's to help keep people don't want to surf porn honest. not to PREVENT you from surfing porn. |
| [01:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, Just edit the default player and change it to "Internal |
| [01:30:00] | simcop2387: | lets see how she does with subtitled ogm's |
| [01:31:00] | xanderp: | PaulWay: kinda of like keeping your mother in the room at all times while you are on the internet. less likely to be touching yourself. <grin> |
| [01:32:00] | simcop2387: | yea i can't hanle ogm's at all, probably the same for mkv's |
| [01:32:00] | simcop2387: | oh well would have been nice |
| [01:32:00] | Kleptophobiac: | so why would the backend connection time out to itself? |
| [01:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | simc |
| [01:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | If libavcodec doesn't do them, the internal player wont |
| [01:32:00] | xanderp: | kormoc: thanks for the push to bugzilla site, using the prerelease fixed my lirc compile problem. I wonder what was broken in the current version... |
| [01:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | but now we know :) |
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| [01:35:00] | simcop2387: | GreyFoxx: libavcodec needs to do them :)( |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | tell that to the ffmpeg people :) |
| [01:36:00] | travolta-: | where are the "ffmpeg people" ? |
| [01:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | On their own website, mailing list and #ffmpeg |
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| [01:38:00] | simcop2387: | gah now i've lost the correct way to start mplayer from there |
| [01:39:00] | tremendous: | bed time |
| [01:39:00] | tremendous: | night |
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| [01:39:00] | Kleptophobiac: | bed time for me as well |
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| [01:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | simcop2387: Doh :) |
| [01:40:00] | simcop2387: | whats the correct way to specify the file %f? |
| [01:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | %s |
| [01:40:00] | simcop2387: | there we go |
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| [01:41:00] | simcop2387: | ought to use xinelib instead of libavcodec :) it'd work |
| [01:42:00] | maino82: | how do i enable access to the mysql database for my current user? i keep getting the following error http://pastebin.ca/28858 |
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| [01:45:00] | simcop2387: | maino82: canada doesn't exist i can't connect to it on the net, heh |
| [01:48:00] | JohnP789: | What's the difference between PS and TS with IVTV? |
| [01:49:00] | simcop2387: | dunno |
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| [01:52:00] | JohnP789: | PS = Program Stream (like VOB files on DVDs), TS = Transport Stream (meant for streaming) |
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| [01:54:00] | JohnP789: | "Record in TS, I find this makes nuvexport and cutpoints much more accurate." --advice found on a forum |
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| [01:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | doubtful |
| [01:58:00] | JohnP789: | I really want to burn a DVD of some old shows I recorded with my PVR-500MCE. |
| [01:58:00] | JohnP789: | I haven't been able to get avidemux to build so far. |
| [02:00:00] | simcop2387: | JohnnyST: you don't want avidemux for mpegs |
| [02:00:00] | simcop2387: | mjpeg tools has all you need (and possibly transcode for tcrequant) |
| [02:01:00] | JohnP789: | simcop2387, nuvexport seems to need it. (and I'm JohnP789) |
| [02:01:00] | simcop2387: | that was a stupid tab completion and if you are using a pvr-500 you don't need nuvexport |
| [02:01:00] | simcop2387: | the files are straight mpeg2's |
| [02:01:00] | simcop2387: | go check with /usr/bin/file |
| [02:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | avidemux is great for cutting portions from an mpeg withou t having torerender |
| [02:02:00] | JohnP789: | simcop2387, Yep, I've learned that. |
| [02:02:00] | simcop2387: | GreyFoxx: there was another tool to do that too that i can't remember |
| [02:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | mpeg2cut among others |
| [02:02:00] | simcop2387: | JohnP789: then what do you need nuvexport for? |
| [02:03:00] | JohnP789: | simcop2387, the advice I got was that using cutpoints that are in the middle of GOPs requires re-encoding, and nuvexport does that. |
| [02:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | It will do everything for you. Clip commercials, resize if needed and generate the DVD directory structure I believe which is attractive to a lot of users |
| [02:04:00] | JohnP789: | nuvexport would be cool if it worked for me. :-) |
| [02:04:00] | simcop2387: | i didn't think nuvexport would work at all on mpegs? |
| [02:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | it most certainly will |
| [02:04:00] | JohnP789: | Some of the nuvexport modes work. Xvid works, but the audio is way out of sync for me. |
| [02:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | it might have issues with mpeg-TS recordings (dvb recordings and such) but any mpeg4/rtjpeg or mpeg2ps should be fine |
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| [02:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | and it's really the underlying tools having problems with ts files |
| [02:06:00] | JohnP789: | I'm using mpeg2ps, but I just can't get avidemux to compile at the moment. |
| [02:06:00] | simcop2387: | i believe all of mine are mpeg2ps |
| [02:06:00] | simcop2387: | JohnP789: whats the problem with it? |
| [02:06:00] | JohnP789: | I can't figure out why spidermonkey isn't found by configure. |
| [02:07:00] | JohnP789: | /usr/include/smjs/jsapi.h is there. |
| [02:07:00] | JohnP789: | checking for jsapi.h... no |
| [02:07:00] | JohnP789: | Grr! |
| [02:08:00] | simcop2387: | what distro? |
| [02:08:00] | JohnP789: | Ubuntu (4-ever!) |
| [02:08:00] | JohnP789: | :-) |
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| [02:09:00] | JohnP789: | Aha! |
| [02:09:00] | JohnP789: | --with-jsapi-include=PATH path to jsapi.h |
| [02:10:00] | simcop2387: | JohnP789: got a copy of the config.log? |
| [02:10:00] | simcop2387: | ah that'll probably do it |
| [02:10:00] | JohnP789: | Trying that. Fingers crossed.... |
| [02:10:00] | JohnP789: | LIBXML2 IS MANDATORY |
| [02:10:00] | JohnP789: | Shoot. |
| [02:11:00] | ** JohnP789 apt-gets ** | |
| [02:11:00] | simcop2387: | i'm surprised there isn't an rpm/deb for it lying around |
| [02:11:00] | JohnP789: | That'd be too easy. This is video on Linux. |
| [02:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm sure most distros have some sort of package available. Might not be a specific version you want, but a package usually exists if you are looking for it |
| [02:13:00] | JohnP789: | Do folks like to re-encode MPEG2->MPEG2 to take care of glitches in the MPEG2 stream from IVTV cards? |
| [02:13:00] | simcop2387: | gentoo does |
| [02:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't really ever seen any glitches in the video |
| [02:14:00] | simcop2387: | JohnP789: for stuff like that usually remuxing them always fixes it for me |
| [02:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nothin visible that is |
| [02:14:00] | simcop2387: | GreyFoxx: i've seen a rare occurance in them before |
| [02:14:00] | JohnP789: | I occasionally see error messages on the mythfrontend stderr/stdout output. |
| [02:15:00] | JohnP789: | I haven't tried these streams on my set-top player yet, though. |
| [02:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | If its not visible to me I don't care about any "glitches" :) |
| [02:15:00] | JohnP789: | Me either! |
| [02:16:00] | simcop2387: | i've seen an issue where the audio fell behind the audio in the file and caused buffer underruns, so now when i want to burn them to dvd i just remux them and it works fine |
| [02:16:00] | JohnP789: | simcop2387, Sorry if you mentioned it before, but what tool are you using to remux? |
| [02:16:00] | simcop2387: | mjpegtools, mpgdemux to split, them mplex to join again |
| [02:17:00] | simcop2387: | i've also been playing with tcrequant and it seems to be working great for mpeg2 video (have to split the streams first though) |
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| [02:19:00] | JohnP789: | simcop2387, Thanks---I'll try mpgtx -> tcrequant -> mplex. |
| [02:19:00] | ussjoin: | Apologies if this question has been asked before, but: does anyone else have problems connecting to ATRPMs? |
| [02:19:00] | JohnP789: | simcop2387, You remove commercials? |
| [02:19:00] | simcop2387: | mpgtx seems to be good too |
| [02:20:00] | simcop2387: | JohnP789: not yet i've been wanting to do that though, i've been trying to find out how to do it with mpeg2cut or other tools that do it with mpeg's |
| [02:20:00] | JohnP789: | (oops, I meant mpgdemux instead of mpgtx) |
| [02:20:00] | JohnP789: | I think I'm OK with cutting at GOPs for now. |
| [02:20:00] | simcop2387: | mpgtx is another one i've tried doesn't seem bad |
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| [02:21:00] | ** ussjoin wonders if anyone heard him. ** | |
| [02:21:00] | ussjoin: | Has anyone tried to get to ATrpms recently? Is it up? |
| [02:21:00] | JohnP789: | ussjoin, Heard ya, but I run Ubuntu and haven't tried that. |
| [02:21:00] | ussjoin: | Ah, OK. |
| [02:21:00] | simcop2387: | ussjoin: i think another channel might be more successful |
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| [02:22:00] | JohnP789: | Is there a script-friendly way to get the edit points from the database for a given NUV file? |
| [02:22:00] | ** GreyFoxx has never connected to ATrpms so.... hehe ** | |
| [02:22:00] | simcop2387: | JohnP789: thats what i've been wanting :) |
| [02:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | johnp_: I have a perl script somewhere that I've used |
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| [02:24:00] | simcop2387: | GreyFoxx: link? |
| [02:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | on my local harddrive somewhere |
| [02:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | I need to dig it up |
| [02:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | haven't used it in a while |
| [02:25:00] | JohnP789: | Mythtv should get a cut of all the PC hardware it's causing people to buy. I'm upgrading my machine just for mythtv. |
| [02:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | If anything it would be neat to know how many PVR cards have been sold due to it :) |
| [02:25:00] | JohnP789: | I bought the Iguanaworks IR TX/RX board. They shipped it to me amazingly fast. |
| [02:25:00] | JohnP789: | I can't wait to fix up my old PC and try that out. |
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| [02:26:00] | ** ussjoin sighs ** | |
| [02:26:00] | ussjoin: | Sheesh. I can't install Myth on Fedora until that repo gets up.... |
| [02:26:00] | rjune: | which repo? |
| [02:26:00] | rjune: | and which release of fedora? |
| [02:26:00] | JohnP789: | I need to run two wires for the IR board, then composite video and stereo audio over to/from the living room. |
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| [02:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Can't find the script. I'llk have to rewrite it |
| [02:27:00] | ussjoin: | ATrpms. And FC4. |
| [02:27:00] | ussjoin: | I'm following the Fedora Myth(TV)ology guide.l |
| [02:27:00] | rjune: | http://www.bravegnuworld.com/~rjune/myth-fc4 |
| [02:27:00] | rjune: | though your best bet is to prolly use fc3 |
| [02:27:00] | JohnP789: | I haven't found S-Video to be worth it. |
| [02:28:00] | ussjoin: | Is that a mirror of the ATRpms site? |
| [02:28:00] | rjune: | no. |
| [02:28:00] | ussjoin: | Ah. Just the myth packages? |
| [02:28:00] | rjune: | that's the myth packagse built for fc4 |
| [02:28:00] | ussjoin: | Right, OK. |
| [02:28:00] | rjune: | they depend on fedora, fedora-extras and livna |
| [02:28:00] | rjune: | ussjoin: http://fedorasolved.com/viewtopic.php?t=91 |
| [02:28:00] | ussjoin: | I need *lots* of stuff from AT though-- like my video card drivers. |
| [02:29:00] | rjune: | what's your video card? |
| [02:29:00] | ussjoin: | nForce2. |
| [02:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nforce2 is a motherboard chipset, not a video card |
| [02:29:00] | rjune: | thanks. |
| [02:29:00] | rjune: | I was gonna bring that up |
| [02:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Onboard video ? |
| [02:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Likely a GF4 MX440 |
| [02:30:00] | ussjoin: | Right. |
| [02:30:00] | rjune: | probably. |
| [02:30:00] | rjune: | ussjoin: rpm -Uhv http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/4/i386/RPMS.lvn/l . . . 4.noarch.rpm for livna access. Then yum install kernel-module-nvidia-`uname -r` |
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| [02:30:00] | rjune: | ussjoin: seriously, livna has most of the stuff that atrpms has. and it's more stable |
| [02:31:00] | ussjoin: | OK.... I'll try that. |
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| [02:32:00] | JohnP789: | mpgtx's man page shows support for: MPEG 2 Program files (Experimental) and MPEG 2 Transport files (demultiplex and info modes only). |
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| [02:33:00] | simcop2387: | GreyFoxx: do you know which table the cut points are in? |
| [02:33:00] | fatmatt: | 1 |
| [02:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | recordedmarkup. Sametable as the seek table |
| [02:39:00] | PaulWay: | rjune: Is there any reason to use atrpms at all, then? |
| [02:39:00] | PaulWay: | For actual program cut points, though (e.g. commercial edits), they're in the cutlist field of the recordings table. |
| [02:40:00] | PaulWay: | in "1–2\n3–4\n5–6" format. |
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| [02:40:00] | PaulWay: | Hmmmm .... lunch.... |
| [02:41:00] | JohnP789: | Shoot. avidemux2 still didn't build. Failed to link: |
| [02:41:00] | JohnP789: | ../adm_lavcodec/libavcodec.a(dv.o): In function `dvvideo_decode_frame': |
| [02:41:00] | JohnP789: | /home/johnp/Desktop/avidemux_2.1_step3/adm_lavcodec/dv.c:914: undefined reference to `mm_flags' |
| [02:42:00] | JohnP789: | [etc.] |
| [02:42:00] | xanderp: | nice, i got lirc to compile, but when i modprove lirc_i2c, it won't create /dev/lirc or /dev/lirc/0. I have the udev rules in place, but it still won't do it. (2.6.14-r2 gentoo lirc 0.7.3pre1) I'm trying 0.8.0pre1 lirc now... |
| [02:42:00] | xanderp: | uhh that's modprobe |
| [02:43:00] | JohnP789: | I'm going to try the mpgtx route anyway. |
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| [02:45:00] | EnterUserName: | hi |
| [02:46:00] | EnterUserName: | Quick question which driver should i use (firmware)t he one on ivtvs site or the one off the cdrom |
| [02:47:00] | rjune: | PaulWay: not really |
| [02:47:00] | rjune: | and in #fedora, if you use atrpms, you're considered on your own |
| [02:47:00] | EnterUserName: | i think rjune is following me. first im in ltsp now mythtv-users and hes there too :p (j/k) |
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| [02:48:00] | simcop2387: | JohnP789: sounds like your missing something related to dv, can probably disable it in configure |
| [02:48:00] | fatmatt: | heyas, anyone here from australia? |
| [02:48:00] | simcop2387: | dv video you shouldn't have to worry about, its only usually from video cameras |
| [02:48:00] | rjune: | LOL |
| [02:48:00] | JohnP789: | simcop2387, Similar errors are thrown for lots of codecs. I'm setting avidemux aside for now. |
| [02:48:00] | rjune: | I'm an LTSP dev, and a livna contributer |
| [02:48:00] | simcop2387: | ah |
| [02:49:00] | EnterUserName: | any ideas which driver i should use for the pvr160 |
| [02:49:00] | fatmatt: | I'm looking at switching from the ninemsn guide data to tuhs, but... I seem to be getting issues with the time offset |
| [02:49:00] | EnterUserName: | erk pvr150 the One on ivtvs site |
| [02:50:00] | EnterUserName: | or the cdrom one? |
| [02:50:00] | simcop2387: | the cdrom doesn't contain linux drivers |
| [02:50:00] | simcop2387: | but ivtv 0.4.0 should work great |
| [02:50:00] | EnterUserName: | oh it contains the firmware |
| [02:50:00] | EnterUserName: | the cdrom firmware.. |
| [02:51:00] | EnterUserName: | im using the cdrom version of the firmware and im getting blurs soemtimes |
| [02:51:00] | JohnP789: | simcop2387, What bitrate do you record at and what factor do you use for tcrequant? |
| [02:51:00] | simcop2387: | ah firmware, i've not seen a significant different between them |
| [02:52:00] | EnterUserName: | oh ok |
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| [02:52:00] | EnterUserName: | im just confused why im getting sblurs occasionally |
| [02:52:00] | simcop2387: | 2700/3500 is the default bitrate, i usually use 2 for the factor without an effect i notice |
| [02:52:00] | JohnP789: | simcop2387, Wow, I'm using way too high a bitrate. |
| [02:53:00] | JohnP789: | 640x480? |
| [02:53:00] | simcop2387: | 702x480 |
| [02:53:00] | simcop2387: | er 720 |
| [02:53:00] | JohnP789: | NTSC? |
| [02:53:00] | simcop2387: | yea |
| [02:53:00] | simcop2387: | for high quality i do 4500/6000 |
| [02:54:00] | EnterUserName: | whats the best record should i use |
| [02:54:00] | EnterUserName: | whats tcrequent |
| [02:54:00] | JohnP789: | That's about what I'm running for 640x480. |
| [02:54:00] | simcop2387: | ah |
| [02:54:00] | JohnP789: | EnterUserName, Part of transcode. |
| [02:54:00] | EnterUserName: | oh i use mepg |
| [02:54:00] | EnterUserName: | and it sucks |
| [02:54:00] | EnterUserName: | for quality wise |
| [02:55:00] | simcop2387: | yea i don't notice a significant difference between them, but i have high quality set as that just for stuff i plan to archive (produces better transcoded files from what i've seen) |
| [02:56:00] | PaulWay: | fatmatt: I can recommend using the IceTV source. |
| [02:56:00] | PaulWay: | OK, it costs, but it gives you all the program descriptions and everything and it's legal. |
| [02:56:00] | EnterUserName: | whats the best settnig to record with |
| [02:56:00] | EnterUserName: | PaulWay: whats wrong with zapit? |
| [02:56:00] | simcop2387: | JohnP789: for low quality i've got 2000/2700 at 320x240 |
| [02:57:00] | simcop2387: | er no 352x240 |
| [02:57:00] | PaulWay: | Nothing, if you're in the USA. |
| [02:57:00] | PaulWay: | In Australia, we've only recently just got an XMLTV service that has all the programme data and is legal to use. |
| [02:57:00] | Agrajag-: | which one? |
| [02:58:00] | PaulWay: | IceTV. |
| [02:58:00] | PaulWay: | The OzTivo source is free, but it doesn't have the full programme descriptions (or didn't last time I used it). |
| [02:58:00] | Agrajag-: | oh.. you should've added "that you have to pay for", you got me excited |
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| [02:59:00] | PaulWay: | Yeah, unfortunately you have to pay for it. |
| [02:59:00] | fatmatt: | PaulWay: I've looked at that, if I'm going to spend time reconfiguring I might as well use tuhs, and is tuhs illegal? |
| [02:59:00] | simcop2387: | i love zap2it, i wouldn't mind if they set the survey to once a month |
| [02:59:00] | PaulWay: | But I'd rather pay for that and support it than to have NineMSN keep on being bastards. |
| [02:59:00] | PaulWay: | tuhs is perfectly legal but doesn't have all the programme descriptions (AFAIK). |
| [02:59:00] | EnterUserName: | what option should i use for recording tv shows |
| [03:00:00] | PaulWay: | What options do you have? |
| [03:00:00] | EnterUserName: | I'm using MPEG-PS |
| [03:00:00] | EnterUserName: | and btirat 4400 |
| [03:00:00] | JohnP789: | Zap2it Rocks |
| [03:00:00] | EnterUserName: | 44000 even |
| [03:00:00] | Agrajag-: | oh well the immir one is good enough for me and has been fixed without me ever losing any data so im happy with that one |
| [03:00:00] | EnterUserName: | it takes about 2 gigs for an hour |
| [03:00:00] | PaulWay: | Yeah, if we had something like Zap2It in .au we'd be set. |
| [03:00:00] | EnterUserName: | but the quality sucks too |
| [03:00:00] | EnterUserName: | not only disk space |
| [03:01:00] | EnterUserName: | is there any type of record options you guys would recommend |
| [03:01:00] | PaulWay: | EnterUserName: use nuvexport after you've commercial-marked to compress the shows you want. |
| [03:01:00] | PaulWay: | (I should prefix that with "I do it this way:") |
| [03:02:00] | EnterUserName: | PaulWay: Th eproblem is it doesnt save it as .NUV files |
| [03:02:00] | EnterUserName: | it only saves it as .MPEG files |
| [03:02:00] | fatmatt: | saw some digital boxes with hdds in harvey norman last week that use icetv by the looks of it |
| [03:02:00] | EnterUserName: | does nuvexport work with mpeg files? |
| [03:02:00] | MrNeutron: | The channel preview when I'm browsing the guide is stretched horizontally so that I can only see the left half of the picture. I'm not using any aspect overrides, and the screen and capture are both 640x480. Anybody seen this? I can't duplicate it on my other frontends. |
| [03:03:00] | PaulWay: | That's bizarre, MrNeutron. |
| [03:03:00] | PaulWay: | fatmatt: Yeah, IceTV is supplying them to all the Hardly Normal stores and online too. |
| [03:04:00] | fatmatt: | can you get into the boxes and hack them to use something else? ie ninmsn or tuhs? |
| [03:04:00] | fatmatt: | the price of the boxes wasn't too bad |
| [03:04:00] | EnterUserName: | PaulWay: where do i get nuvexport? |
| [03:04:00] | PaulWay: | EnterUserName: google? |
| [03:05:00] | EnterUserName: | ok :) |
| [03:05:00] | fatmatt: | one of the dual tuner versions and a 60gb pod and my wife would chuck the mythtv box |
| [03:05:00] | PaulWay: | EnterUserName: http://forevermore.net/mythtv/ |
| [03:06:00] | PaulWay: | fatmatt: I see that as bad thinking. |
| [03:06:00] | jemarcks_: | can i use nuvexport to convert a mpeg file from 'cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg' to other formats to try different settings? |
| [03:06:00] | PaulWay: | Myth can do everything those boxes can do and more; my partner wouldn't give up MythTV and go back to a manual video system if you paid her. |
| [03:07:00] | EnterUserName: | oh my gosh |
| [03:07:00] | PaulWay: | They cost very little less than a decent MythTV machine, and Myth has much more expandability. |
| [03:07:00] | JohnP789: | Mythbusters rocks |
| [03:08:00] | EnterUserName: | THANK YOU VERY MUCH |
| [03:08:00] | EnterUserName: | nuvexprot rocks |
| [03:08:00] | PaulWay: | jemarcks_: Not really. |
| [03:08:00] | EnterUserName: | PaulWay: thank you very much |
| [03:08:00] | PaulWay: | nuvexport reads the MythTV database and allows you to convert the shows you've recorded that way. |
| [03:09:00] | PaulWay: | For pure file conversion, the best IMO is transcode. |
| [03:09:00] | PaulWay: | EnterUserName: No worries :-) |
| [03:09:00] | EnterUserName: | PaulWay: for some reason i try to use transcode |
| [03:09:00] | EnterUserName: | it says that they are not availble or something lik eit doesnt support it |
| [03:10:00] | PaulWay: | EnterUserName: You may have to have some utilities installed. ffmpeg, xvid libraries, mythtranscode. Full instructions probably on that website. |
| [03:10:00] | EnterUserName: | crap |
| [03:10:00] | EnterUserName: | Illegal division by zero at /usr/local/share/nuvexport/export/ffmpeg.pm line 167, <STDIN> line 11. |
| [03:11:00] | EnterUserName: | PaulWay: what does that mean? |
| [03:11:00] | PaulWay: | That's odd. No idea. |
| [03:11:00] | PaulWay: | It can't find ffmpeg? |
| [03:11:00] | PaulWay: | I've never seen that. |
| [03:11:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
| [03:11:00] | EnterUserName: | i think i have it |
| [03:11:00] | PaulWay: | I use transcode, but only when I need to directly convert one file to another and I want to precisely control how it does it. |
| [03:12:00] | PaulWay: | Unfortunately, there are some shows that seem to stubbornly resist any attempts at nuvexporting or transcoding. |
| [03:12:00] | PaulWay: | (on my system, at least). |
| [03:18:00] | EnterUserName: | Is there any documentation on how to install nuvexprot |
| [03:18:00] | EnterUserName: | i dont see any int he directory |
| [03:21:00] | Beirdo: | make install |
| [03:21:00] | Beirdo: | pretty simple |
| [03:21:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm thats what i did |
| [03:21:00] | EnterUserName: | its giving me division by 0 error |
| [03:21:00] | EnterUserName: | nto sure why |
| [03:21:00] | EnterUserName: | let me google it. |
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| [03:23:00] | EnterUserName: | how do i get an older version of nuvexport |
| [03:24:00] | EnterUserName: | Beirdo: does it work with the new PVRx50 MPEG files that saves? |
| [03:24:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [03:24:00] | Beirdo: | well, I gotta go to bed |
| [03:25:00] | Krazylegz: | Viva la Canada! |
| [03:27:00] | PaulWay: | Apparently so. |
| [03:27:00] | ** EnterUserName sighs ** | |
| [03:27:00] | EnterUserName: | i wonder why i have the ffmpeg binary and libraries |
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| [03:28:00] | EnterUserName: | PaulWay: Should htis work with aspect ratio square? |
| [03:29:00] | PaulWay: | It will keep the same resolution as your recording, but it will lose the aspect ratio. |
| [03:30:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
| [03:30:00] | EnterUserName: | tahts where it appears to be crashign |
| [03:30:00] | EnterUserName: | $height = $width / $episode->{'finfo'}{'aspect_f'}; |
| [03:30:00] | PaulWay: | So I record in 720x480 but the wide screen is more like 800x448. |
| [03:30:00] | PaulWay: | Ah.... |
| [03:30:00] | PaulWay: | Hooray for interpreted languages! :-) |
| [03:30:00] | EnterUserName: | so im wondering if its cuz i chose a wierd aspect ratio |
| [03:31:00] | Gumby: | when using mythfrontend to view my recordings the up and down arrows seem to be working like page up/down instead of arrow up and down. this also happens in the tv guide. is there somewhere I can look to fix this? browsing the other areas the same keys on the remote function as up/down and the keys are setup in mythweb keys also. |
| [03:31:00] | Krazylegz: | $height = (($episode->{'finfo'}{'aspect_f'}) ? 480 : $width / $episode->{'finfo'}{'aspect_f'} ); |
| [03:32:00] | EnterUserName: | ill give it a try |
| [03:33:00] | PaulWay: | Krazylegz: isn't that logic reversed? "If (($episode->{'finfo'}{'aspect_f'}) exists, use it, otherwise use 480" is what you need. |
| [03:34:00] | PaulWay: | i.e. $height = (($episode->{'finfo'}{'aspect_f'} ? $width / $episode->{'finfo'}{'aspect_f'} : 480); |
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| [03:36:00] | PaulWay: | Or have I been smoking too much crack again? |
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| [03:39:00] | Krazylegz: | I thought we were preventing a division by 0. |
| [03:39:00] | Krazylegz: | Also, that checks if it's 0, like C. |
| [03:39:00] | Krazylegz: | If I wanted to check if it exists, then I'd do something like isset($episode->{'finfo'}{'aspect_f'}) |
| [03:39:00] | PaulWay: | Yeah, and we get a division by zero if $episode->{'finfo'}{'aspect_f'} is zero or undefined. |
| [03:40:00] | EnterUserName: | lol |
| [03:40:00] | EnterUserName: | its working |
| [03:40:00] | EnterUserName: | but now its doing this |
| [03:40:00] | EnterUserName: | yuvdevnoise: invalid option — r |
| [03:41:00] | EnterUserName: | and its stuck at processed 0 of 215685 |
| [03:42:00] | PaulWay: | God I love unix. |
| [03:42:00] | PaulWay: | to convert from FLAC to OGG, "flac -d -c file.flac | oggenc -o file.ogg -" |
| [03:47:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
| [03:47:00] | EnterUserName: | maybe i should install from source.. |
| [03:47:00] | EnterUserName: | instead of using binaries from my distro :) |
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| [03:51:00] | PaulWay: | Which distro, out of curiosity? |
| [03:51:00] | EnterUserName: | suse 10x64 bit |
| [03:52:00] | EnterUserName: | erk Suse 10 x64 |
| [03:52:00] | EnterUserName: | is it because its too old of a version or new :) |
| [03:54:00] | Krazylegz: | PaulWay: Did we need to finish figuring that out? |
| [03:54:00] | Krazylegz: | I just threw that random thought out there. |
| [03:55:00] | PaulWay: | Well, one of our improvements will work. |
| [03:55:00] | PaulWay: | I think it's up to EnterUserName to get it working completely... :-) |
| [03:56:00] | PaulWay: | Anyway, I'm off to spread joy and happiness throughout the world elsewhere. |
| [03:56:00] | PaulWay: | :-) |
| [03:57:00] | EnterUserName: | PaulWay: were you talking about the division by 0 |
| [03:57:00] | EnterUserName: | problem? |
| [03:57:00] | EnterUserName: | the division by 0 problem was fixed with what krazylegs said |
| [03:57:00] | EnterUserName: | but it gets stuck at 0 for processing. |
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| [03:58:00] | NightMonkey: | EnterUserName: Regarding your yuvdenoise problem – what version of mjpegtools are you using? |
| [03:59:00] | Krazylegz: | EnterUserName: You actually used the code I posted? |
| [03:59:00] | EnterUserName: | lol ... yup :p |
| [03:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. For future reference, I don't ever recommend that someone use code that I write in IRC. :-) |
| [03:59:00] | EnterUserName: | lol ok :) |
| [04:00:00] | EnterUserName: | NightMonkey: its 1.8.0 |
| [04:00:00] | EnterUserName: | which one should i have |
| [04:00:00] | NightMonkey: | EnterUserName: Ah. I have 1.6.2. Perhaps your version is too new? |
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| [04:01:00] | EnterUserName: | hmm |
| [04:01:00] | EnterUserName: | crapola |
| [04:01:00] | NightMonkey: | EnterUserName: Perhaps they've changed the command line options on you. |
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| [04:02:00] | NightMonkey: | EnterUserName: Try downgrading, and see if the issue remains. |
| [04:02:00] | EnterUserName: | Lol |
| [04:02:00] | EnterUserName: | that mens i haev to compile from scratch |
| [04:02:00] | NightMonkey: | EnterUserName: Yes, so? |
| [04:02:00] | EnterUserName: | i'll see if i can do it tomorrow.. im kinda tierd now but thanx for telling me which version in eed :) |
| [04:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Compiling is fun, just ask Gentooers. |
| [04:02:00] | EnterUserName: | lol |
| [04:04:00] | PaulWay: | Well, bugger me with a pitchfork, I just found that little 4-pin 'extra 12V' ATX line on my motherboard. |
| [04:04:00] | PaulWay: | That hasn't ever been plugged in... |
| [04:05:00] | PaulWay: | Sensors is still smoking a bizarre combination of crack, pot and LSD, but this might contribute to the system's stability... |
| [04:05:00] | Gumby: | PaulWay: it definately will |
| [04:05:00] | Gumby: | especially if you are running any high powered video cards |
| [04:06:00] | PaulWay: | only a GeForce 5200. |
| [04:06:00] | PaulWay: | If things stop randomly segfaulting when I'm trying to transcode large shows, then I'll be forever grateful. |
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| [04:07:00] | Agrajag-: | hahah at the moron who just posted to the users list asking why live tv isn't working with svn |
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| [04:09:00] | ** Gumby looks around sheepishly ** | |
| [04:10:00] | Agrajag-: | err that's not you is it? |
| [04:10:00] | Gumby: | hehe |
| [04:10:00] | Gumby: | no |
| [04:11:00] | Agrajag-: | haha good |
| [04:14:00] | rjune: | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/15/2 . . . &tid=231 <-- that's some good stuff |
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| [04:20:00] | simcop2387: | damn does mencoder/lavc do good quality mpeg4, 530mb on pass one for 60min |
| [04:20:00] | simcop2387: | Agrajag-: if i hadn't checked out the trac for the svn i probably would have done that myself.... |
| [04:21:00] | Agrajag-: | but it's been in the mailing lists dozens of times (even after the announcement that he was breaking it) |
| [04:23:00] | simcop2387: | heh |
| [04:23:00] | simcop2387: | i can't wait for his changes |
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| [04:31:00] | DJ_Necrogami: | evenin guys |
| [04:33:00] | DJ_Necrogami: | ive got a Tv Tuner Card with a Conexant Fusion 878A Chip on it ... any idea what linux Drivers i would need to use MythTV? |
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| [04:34:00] | Gumby: | bttv |
| [04:34:00] | DJ_Necrogami: | TV & FM |
| [04:34:00] | paulz`: | hey folks – anyone have an ivtv ebuild around? seems that the portage mirrors for it are down at the moment |
| [04:35:00] | Gumby: | paulz`: why not just grab the source? |
| [04:35:00] | paulz`: | the ivtvdriver.org site wasn't working either |
| [04:35:00] | Gumby: | Ican send you the sources if you like |
| [04:36:00] | paulz`: | that would be fantastic |
| [04:37:00] | DJ_Necrogami: | any know of a Slackware build for mythtv |
| [04:38:00] | Gumby: | http://ultimate.kicks-ass.net/files/ivtv0.4-source.tar.bz2 |
| [04:38:00] | Gumby: | there you go paulz` |
| [04:38:00] | paulz`: | thanks a mil |
| [04:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | djperegrine: I think Dagmar is/was making packages for it |
| [04:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | err dj_Necrogami I meant |
| [04:42:00] | EnterUserName: | the syn version of nuvexport works with suse 10.. |
| [04:44:00] | DJ_Necrogami: | !seen dagmar |
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| [05:33:00] | Gumby: | does anyone know where to change the colour of the font in the OSD? I actually only want to change the colour of the channel number and callsign, not of the program info font. I am looking over the themes xml but it seems to be in greyscal only with numbers from 1 to 255 being usd for hte font colour |
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| [06:20:00] | exstatica: | anyone notice atrpms is down? |
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| [06:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Several have mentioned it |
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| [06:29:00] | simcop2387: | and we can't figure out why here |
| [06:35:00] | PumpkinPie: | if its related to redhat.. need ask why ? |
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| [06:52:00] | Cardoe: | wtf is up with zap2it? |
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| [07:01:00] | travolta-: | what about zap2it? |
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| [07:02:00] | feld: | hey guys ivtv's links have been down all day |
| [07:02:00] | feld: | can anyone link me to the 4.0 release |
| [07:03:00] | poonj: | hey guys |
| [07:03:00] | poonj: | anyone here have the pcHDTV working with ATSC HD? |
| [07:03:00] | Cardoe: | travolta-: they just dropped my provider |
| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | but only kind of |
| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | My apartment complex has some deal with some out of state company rather then the local cable provider |
| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | my complex got dropped from the listings |
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| [07:11:00] | feld: | nobody here uses ivtv? |
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| [07:14:00] | Cougar: | I use |
| [07:14:00] | dcstimm: | hey guys |
| [07:14:00] | dcstimm: | anyone here have a mac mini? |
| [07:15:00] | Cougar: | feld: www.version6.net/tmp/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz |
| [07:18:00] | dcstimm: | Cougar, is that for the mac mini, what is a feld, a type of url? |
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| [07:18:00] | feld: | thank you VERY much Cougar |
| [07:19:00] | dcstimm: | feld, how do you do that? |
| [07:19:00] | feld: | do what? |
| [07:19:00] | Cougar: | dcstimm: what are you talking about ;-) |
| [07:19:00] | feld: | feld is my nick ;) |
| [07:19:00] | Cougar: | dcstimm: I don't have mac |
| [07:19:00] | dcstimm: | send the url though feld |
| [07:19:00] | dcstimm: | oh |
| [07:20:00] | dcstimm: | is that why it doesnt work for me? |
| [07:20:00] | feld: | yes |
| [07:20:00] | feld: | :) |
| [07:20:00] | feld: | remove the |
| [07:20:00] | feld: | feld: |
| [07:20:00] | dcstimm: | oh |
| [07:20:00] | feld: | and it will work just fine heh |
| [07:20:00] | Cougar: | :-D |
| [07:20:00] | dcstimm: | :-F |
| [07:21:00] | dcstimm: | mythtv--> ipod video, mmmmm so nice |
| [07:21:00] | feld: | that sounds nice indeed |
| [07:21:00] | feld: | :) |
| [07:21:00] | dcstimm: | 720x480 works perfectly on my video ipod |
| [07:21:00] | feld: | i'm reinstalling my mythtv |
| [07:21:00] | feld: | it was acting crazy |
| [07:21:00] | dcstimm: | mpeg4 only |
| [07:26:00] | simcop2387: | i need a way to run a user job on files that are older than 24 hours only |
| [07:27:00] | feld: | simcop2387: i think a cronjob that runs a script using the find command will help you |
| [07:28:00] | simcop2387: | yea i know but it'd be nice if mythtv's user jobs supported it, e.g. a "critera" for each job |
| [07:28:00] | feld: | true |
| [07:28:00] | feld: | maybe post somewhere and see if your suggestion gets implemented. |
| [07:29:00] | simcop2387: | i will later :) |
| [07:29:00] | simcop2387: | now i should really be asleep |
| [07:29:00] | feld: | no kiddin, me too |
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| [07:30:00] | Cougar: | it is moring 09:30 here :-) |
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| [07:42:00] | simcop2387: | Cougar: then you too should be asleep |
| [07:43:00] | Cougar: | I'm :-) |
| [08:00:00] | Gumby: | does anyone know where to change the colour of the font in the OSD? I actually only want to change the colour of the channel number and callsign, not of the program info font. I am looking over the themes xml but it seems to be in greyscal only with numbers from 1 to 255 being usd for hte font colour |
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| [08:08:00] | Cougar: | afaik it is not possible to change it in confid. you should change code |
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| [08:10:00] | Gumby: | yes, that is what I am wondering. The format it is in etc. |
| [08:10:00] | Gumby: | it seems that in most OSD theme files its a number between 0 and 255 |
| [08:10:00] | Gumby: | which only appears to be greyscale |
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| [08:11:00] | Gumby: | I just found a guide online and it seems that it can be #xxxxxx |
| [08:11:00] | Gumby: | Color A QT Library color, this is a color name or a RGB representation of a color (#000000 ? Red=0, Green=0, Blue=0). |
| [08:12:00] | Gumby: | white/black is a bad choice for the color as it is hard to see on a lot of backgrounds |
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| [08:15:00] | Gumby: | doesnt seem that changing it to a #xxxxxx works |
| [08:16:00] | kaiyn: | can anyone by chance point me to a good reference for the tags in the osd.xml files?? |
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| [08:18:00] | Gumby: | http://www.untzuntz.com/mythtv/ui/themeguide.html#_Toc40245441 |
| [08:18:00] | Gumby: | google is a wonderfull thing |
| [08:18:00] | Gumby: | I am not sure how outdated it is though |
| [08:43:00] | Gumby: | hrm, I just dont think its possible to have color on the channel number and callsign |
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| [08:54:00] | Atamido: | Just wait for the updated docs that will ship with 0.19.0 in 2008. |
| [08:55:00] | Atamido: | I hear it will be delivered on the backs of magical fairies. |
| [08:55:00] | Atamido: | Oops, I missed that little thing in the Topic about being a dumb... |
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| [09:06:00] | Gumby: | does anyone here know which theme file contains the info for the recorded programs ui? |
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| [10:51:00] | Gumby: | does anyone here know where mythtv stores the channel logos and how to tell if they are being downloaded or not? |
| [10:57:00] | adante: | i grabbed the channel logos myself |
| [10:58:00] | Cougar: | channel logos are in server and exact location is in database |
| [10:59:00] | simon_c: | Is there a keymapping to grab a screen shot while in playback mode (and ideally save is as filename.jpg to replace the image used for the program) |
| [10:59:00] | Cougar: | afaik no |
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| [11:13:00] | simon_c: | Cougar: OK. Thanks. |
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| [11:17:00] | Gumby: | hrm, nice. Just found a tv_grab_na_icons script |
| [11:19:00] | Gumby: | dodwnloaded 56 channel icons in 20 seconds |
| [11:30:00] | bri: | what filesystem do you use for your video storage? my root runs on ext3 |
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| [11:32:00] | smoke_: | hey guys, can myth do the music scan and video scan stuff automatically when it enters the play menu? |
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| [13:55:00] | dcchy: | hi |
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| [13:57:00] | dcchy: | If I have DVDs of TV shows that I rip with MythTV, is it possible to "shuffle" through the episodes at random? |
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| [14:36:00] | _tester_: | test |
| [14:36:00] | sphing_: | the irony |
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| [14:38:00] | sphing: | anyone know where I can get kernel help? |
| [14:38:00] | sphing: | ^^ OT |
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| [14:56:00] | Kernel-Kris: | i have a pvr-250 geforce 5500 and a dishnetwork reciever.....all im gettin is fuz can anyone help? |
| [14:57:00] | laga: | nope, not with your description |
| [14:57:00] | sphing: | i was about to say |
| [14:57:00] | sphing: | thats pretty general |
| [14:57:00] | feld: | lol laga |
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| [15:04:00] | Kernel-Kris: | thanks.....what more can i say........ |
| [15:04:00] | sphing: | alot |
| [15:05:00] | sphing: | lets start with the basics.... like is the fuzz from the cable box, the pvr or the geforce |
| [15:07:00] | Kernel-Kris: | when i start mythfrontend and select watch tv it comes up and says video0:0 and then i get fuzz.....like its picking up antenna bcast and not the feed from the sat. |
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| [15:08:00] | sphing: | does it work outsize myth? |
| [15:08:00] | sphing: | *outside |
| [15:08:00] | Kernel-Kris: | yes |
| [15:08:00] | Kernel-Kris: | i have a splitter and another tv connected to test and it works fine throughout the tests |
| [15:09:00] | sphing: | i mean does the pvr record correctly? |
| [15:09:00] | Kernel-Kris: | ya it records....but just static..... |
| [15:09:00] | sphing: | so no its not recording |
| [15:09:00] | sphing: | the problem isnt myth... its that the pvr is setup incorrectly |
| [15:09:00] | Kernel-Kris: | ya i can record and play back the static.....really entertaining you should try it.....static in slowmotion |
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| [15:10:00] | sphing: | then you obviously arent recording |
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| [15:11:00] | Kernel-Kris: | how would i fix the card |
| [15:11:00] | kahuna_: | Hi. |
| [15:11:00] | sphing: | if your recording static, and you have something connected.... the answer to, are you recording would be no |
| [15:11:00] | Kernel-Kris: | how would i fix the card |
| [15:11:00] | sphing: | *are you recording correctly |
| [15:11:00] | Kernel-Kris: | no |
| [15:12:00] | sphing: | did you setup the card to capture the right input |
| [15:12:00] | sphing: | i dont have a 500, i have a 250, so I'm not sure how many inputs it has |
| [15:12:00] | sphing: | 4 i think? |
| [15:12:00] | Kernel-Kris: | i have a 250 also.....tuner0 composite and svid |
| [15:13:00] | sphing: | ok.... so do you have the 500, which presumably is where the video from the sat is connected to, set on the correct input? |
| [15:14:00] | Kernel-Kris: | and i have it set up in myth to capture input from tuner0..... so mpeg==>tuner0==>dishnetwork |
| [15:14:00] | sphing: | forget myth |
| [15:14:00] | sphing: | from console |
| [15:14:00] | Kernel-Kris: | on how do i do that? |
| [15:14:00] | Kernel-Kris: | maybe thats the problem |
| [15:15:00] | sphing: | cat /dev/videoXX >> text.mpg |
| [15:15:00] | sphing: | ctrl + C after a couple of secs |
| [15:15:00] | sphing: | and play under mplayer |
| [15:17:00] | Kernel-Kris: | still static |
| [15:17:00] | Kernel-Kris: | am i suposed to tell ivtv the correct input? |
| [15:17:00] | sphing: | yes |
| [15:17:00] | sphing: | some pl script |
| [15:17:00] | Kernel-Kris: | .....? |
| [15:17:00] | sphing: | in the ivtv source |
| [15:18:00] | sphing: | theres a pl that tells which driver |
| [15:18:00] | sphing: | i'm going to breakfast |
| [15:18:00] | sphing: | *which input |
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| [15:44:00] | dcchy: | If I have DVDs of TV shows that I rip with MythTV, is it possible to "shuffle" through the episodes at random? |
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| [15:50:00] | r10_: | hi |
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| [15:52:00] | paulz`: | would anyone know any reason why videodev would fail to load? i've got this error when i modprobe ivtv |
| [15:52:00] | paulz`: | FATAL: Error inserting videodev (/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/media/video/videodev.ko): Input/output error |
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| [16:06:00] | Cardoe: | paulz`: i/o error for inserting a module... |
| [16:06:00] | Cardoe: | wow |
| [16:06:00] | Cardoe: | you're not out of HD space are you? |
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| [16:10:00] | paulz`: | no, i figured it out |
| [16:10:00] | ** paulz` is an idiot ** | |
| [16:10:00] | paulz`: | i had videodev compiled into the kernel |
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| [16:15:00] | r10_: | how do I install mythtv on Mandrake box? I get "qmake: command not found" when I try to do qmake |
| [16:16:00] | r10_: | I have instll LAME and XMLTV |
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| [16:17:00] | kahuna_: | r10_: is qmake installed? |
| [16:18:00] | simcop2387: | well i just found a kernel panic in ivtv |
| [16:18:00] | simcop2387: | 0.4.0 that is |
| [16:18:00] | simcop2387: | play video, with radio antenna hooked up, remove antenna |
| [16:18:00] | kahuna_: | r10_: probably qt-apps or something like that. |
| [16:20:00] | r10_: | kahuna_: whne I try to install qmake (or qt-apps) when I get "there is no packed with that name" |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | qt-devel or something |
| [16:22:00] | r10_: | Beirdo: now I have instlled qt-devel, and i get the same thing |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | dunno then |
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| [16:39:00] | kahuna_: | r10_: How are you trying to install it? |
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| [16:40:00] | r10_: | kahuna_: I have solevet the problem |
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| [16:46:00] | kahuna_: | good. |
| [16:46:00] | kahuna_: | What was it, just curious. |
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| [16:47:00] | kahuna_: | I've finally (almost) have my myth box working the way I want it :) |
| [16:47:00] | kahuna_: | It was a lot of work but it's worth it. |
| [16:47:00] | kahuna_: | The only thing left is my issue with fce ultra running too fast. |
| [16:48:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [16:49:00] | kahuna_: | hi rjune. |
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| [17:11:00] | NightBird: | http://thedailywtf.com/ |
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| [17:15:00] | Esp1: | i am trying to get a signal from both the tuner and the s-video inn of a pvr350 card, but i cant seem to figure this out, anyone know how to do this? |
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| [17:16:00] | Dagmar: | You can't do it at the same time |
| [17:16:00] | Esp1: | i was planning to have the s-video as a regular channel. |
| [17:17:00] | Esp1: | but there is no place in the channel setup, where i can choose the svideo |
| [17:17:00] | Esp1: | only frequencys |
| [17:20:00] | kahuna_: | Esp1: You have to switch tuner inputs. |
| [17:21:00] | kahuna_: | It's either W or C |
| [17:21:00] | kahuna_: | I can't remember which |
| [17:21:00] | Esp1: | ohh....ic...thanx |
| [17:22:00] | Esp1: | it is c, w is the screen aspect ration... |
| [17:24:00] | kahuna_: | good deal |
| [17:28:00] | Dagmar: | You can't really make s-video it's own channel as far as I know |
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| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | sure you can |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | you need to use your SQL-fu though |
| [17:31:00] | laga: | hi Beirdo |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | hey |
| [17:31:00] | laga: | how is it going? |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | stressful :) |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | other than that, not too bad |
| [17:32:00] | laga: | hehe, nice |
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| [17:43:00] | znoG: | hi, quick question about MythTV and its uses... |
| [17:43:00] | znoG: | can it be setup so that somebody can connect to my system and watch my TV? |
| [17:43:00] | znoG: | set it to record a certain program on a certain channel remotely, etc |
| [17:46:00] | kormoc: | znoG, for remote controling of recording, there's mythweb |
| [17:46:00] | kormoc: | znoG, and yes, you can have more then one frontend (software used to view recordings and tv) connect to a single backend (software used to record and all that jazz) |
| [17:46:00] | __Ace__ (n=love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se) Quit () | |
| [17:46:00] | Beirdo: | but remember. |
| [17:46:00] | Beirdo: | sharing TV is illegal in most countries |
| [17:47:00] | Krazylegz: | But remember |
| [17:47:00] | Krazylegz: | Sharing is Caring. |
| [17:47:00] | ** Beirdo shares some methane ** | |
| [17:48:00] | znoG: | Beirdo: heh, there's many illegal things in this country, sharing my TV so my dad can watch it from another country when his favorite TV show is on is a fair enough reason in my books :) |
| [17:48:00] | Beirdo: | you can take that up with your authorities. :) |
| [17:48:00] | znoG: | kormoc: thanks, will definately get my capture card asap then :) |
| [17:48:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:49:00] | kormoc: | znoG, now remember, it takes a *ton* of bandwidth to stream tv via inet |
| [17:50:00] | znoG: | really? what's the sort of transfer per second? |
| [17:50:00] | znoG: | 30–40K/sec? |
| [17:50:00] | kormoc: | way more then that. |
| [17:50:00] | znoG: | ouch |
| [17:50:00] | znoG: | there's no protocol that reduces quality and size too? |
| [17:51:00] | znoG: | i guess recording it then transferring it will be good enough |
| [17:51:00] | Chutt: | not in myth. |
| [17:51:00] | kormoc: | mine is very bad quality, and it's 300 megs a hour |
| [17:51:00] | kormoc: | which is 86 kb per sec |
| [17:52:00] | kormoc: | most people use at least 3x that to get watchable quality. |
| [17:52:00] | znoG: | ok will definately record then transfer then |
| [17:53:00] | paulz`: | i used shoutcast a while ago to stream tv and it actually worked pretty well |
| [17:53:00] | paulz`: | i don't remember how much bandwidth it took, but it was considerable |
| [17:53:00] | znoG: | i take it shoutcast is a totally different protocol unrelated to mythtv? |
| [17:53:00] | paulz`: | yeah |
| [17:54:00] | kormoc: | znoG, as for a tuner card to get, stick with one of the win pvr's (150 is the recommended one) it's worth the extra compaired to a bt8x8 card |
| [17:55:00] | paulz`: | hey guys, anyone using an IR blaster to control a digital cable/satellite set-top box? |
| [17:56:00] | paulz`: | or better yet, direct serial connection |
| [17:56:00] | paulz`: | i'm looking for into on how to use my cable box's serial port to control the box's functions, but i'm not finding much |
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| [18:00:00] | znoG: | kormoc: thanks i hope i can get those in this country |
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| [18:03:00] | znoG: | kormoc: are the avermedia USB ones supported by any chance? maybe i'll go check the wiki out to see supported hardware |
| [18:05:00] | kormoc: | znoG, mythtv.org has a hardware compatability list |
| [18:06:00] | znoG: | yeah i'm looking at it, lots of avermedia ones listed but not the USB one |
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| [18:20:00] | dcchy: | If I have DVDs of TV shows that I rip with MythTV, is it possible to "shuffle" through the episodes at random after I've saved them to harddisk? |
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| [18:25:00] | znoG: | bit of a problem with the queries in the wiki |
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| [18:59:00] | znoG: | now, if a card is supported by v4l, it should work fine with mythtv right? |
| [19:00:00] | NightBird: | if you can get the linux kernel to work with it, I believe mythtv will work with it |
| [19:00:00] | kahuna_: | should |
| [19:01:00] | znoG: | great, i found a card that is locally available and works with video4linux |
| [19:01:00] | znoG: | supported, rather |
| [19:01:00] | znoG: | Genius VideoWonder ProTV SAA7135 |
| [19:16:00] | bfree: | znoG: if you really want usb ... I just got my newly bought plextor convertx working doing hardware mpeg4 encoding (and mine, UK model, came with a usb->infra-red remote which knoppmyth autodetected as a keyboard AND mouse) |
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| [19:45:00] | Esotericisms: | alright, I have several shows that are setup to record everyday ... today it says no scheduled recordings ... any ideas? |
| [19:45:00] | Beirdo: | you done fucked it up? |
| [19:46:00] | kormoc: | Esotericisms, your mythfilldatabase hasn't been running? |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | oh, yeah, that could be it |
| [19:46:00] | Esotericisms: | what is the website that it pulls that data from |
| [19:46:00] | Esotericisms: | I bet my subscription has run out :( |
| [19:48:00] | Esotericisms: | great it can't see outside my network |
| [19:48:00] | Esotericisms: | I wonder how long it has been like that |
| [19:49:00] | znoG: | bfree: nice, i reaaally doubt i can get those here though |
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| [19:53:00] | znoG: | bfree: about US$60 is a good price for them? |
| [19:54:00] | bfree: | You'ld be doing well to find the plextor for US$60! I'd have thought closer to US$200! |
| [19:55:00] | bfree: | not sure exactly how much (got mine along with lots of other stuff). model I have is px-tv402u |
| [19:56:00] | znoG: | PLEXTOR® CONVERTX™ PX-AV100U USB DIGITAL VIDEO CONVERTER |
| [19:56:00] | znoG: | that's probably the reason for the low price |
| [19:57:00] | znoG: | US$166.50 for your model |
| [19:58:00] | znoG: | plus shipping, looking at a total of US$250, ouch! think i'll go for the videowonder |
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| [20:17:00] | kahuna_: | Anyone have an opinion on happuage media mvp? |
| [20:18:00] | Umaro: | Hey guys.. trying to compile mythtv from a base slackware install. I'm on the compiling QT part. first, where should I install it? -prefix=/usr ? secondly, the docs tell me qt has to have mysql support.. how do I get mysql support in qt? |
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| [20:25:00] | kahuna_: | Umaro: I'd go for /usr/local which should be the default. |
| [20:29:00] | Umaro: | kahuna_: ok.. what about getting mysql support into qt? |
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| [20:30:00] | kahuna_: | Do you have the mysql dev libs? |
| [20:31:00] | kahuna_: | And does ./configure detect them? |
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| [20:48:00] | Umaro: | mysql.com seems down. odd. |
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| [21:07:00] | TSWoodV: | Hello! Slightly offtopic, but I figure someone here's fixed this. xine has this annoying mostly green line at the bottom. What's the fix? I'd really rather use xine than mplayer or totem. |
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| [21:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | either cat /dev/video0 into a file and play that, or us emplayer directly on the device |
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| [21:13:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: you know where I can get decent kernel help? |
| [21:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | that's not exactly a very specific question :) |
| [21:15:00] | sphing: | fair enought.... where can i get help on the VFS in the linux kernel |
| [21:15:00] | TSWoodV: | sphing: Which distro? |
| [21:15:00] | sphing: | ... doesnt matter |
| [21:16:00] | TSWoodV: | sphing: It does, in that several Linux vendors customize their kernels. Red Hat massages the Fedora kernel extensively, for example. They really go over their Enterprise kernels. |
| [21:16:00] | TSWoodV: | sphing: And this massaging sometimes breaks stuff badly. |
| [21:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: Well a google for Linux VFS returns a heck of a lot of stuff |
| [21:17:00] | sphing: | TSWoodV: standard linux kernel |
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| [21:17:00] | sphing: | i've googled but I can't figure this one thing out |
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| [21:18:00] | Esotericisms: | when does "scheduled recordings" get updated? after mythfilldatabase is complete? |
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| [21:19:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone? |
| [21:19:00] | kormoc: | yes |
| [21:20:00] | Esotericisms: | alright |
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| [21:47:00] | simon_c: | Hi All. |
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| [21:53:00] | tobo: | anyone here know how to solve the problem when compiling mythtv from svn when only liblame0 and not liblame-dev is available in debian? |
| [21:53:00] | beavis: | ??? |
| [21:53:00] | beavis: | apt-show-versions |grep lame |
| [21:53:00] | beavis: | liblame0/sid uptodate 3.96.1–1 |
| [21:53:00] | beavis: | liblame-dev/sid uptodate 3.96.1–1 |
| [21:54:00] | Agrajag-: | get it from the marillat rep |
| [21:57:00] | tobo: | humma, i have ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| [21:57:00] | tobo: | in my sources that is but it doesnt seem to be there |
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| [22:12:00] | Gumby: | tobo: I can guarantee that liblame0 and liblame-dev are in debian |
| [22:12:00] | Gumby: | ii liblame-dev 3.96.1–1 LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder |
| [22:12:00] | Gumby: | ii liblame0 3.96.1–1 LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder |
| [22:13:00] | Gumby: | tobo: what official debian sources do you have setup? and do you have contrib? |
| [22:13:00] | tobo: | Gumby, i found it to be an error in my sources anyways =/ tnx for the help though |
| [22:13:00] | mofu: | you need marilat sources for Lame |
| [22:14:00] | mofu: | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main |
| [22:14:00] | mofu: | change sarge as appropriate |
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| [22:16:00] | simon_c: | Hi all. |
| [22:17:00] | simon_c: | How do I stop myth from recording something it's in the middle of recording ? |
| [22:17:00] | mofu: | delete it |
| [22:17:00] | Gumby: | does anyone here have any idea how/what is needed to change the colour of the channel number in live TV? Ive edited the osd.xml file for my theme but the numbers used seem to be greyscale only |
| [22:18:00] | Gumby: | mofu: if you are running a frontend you can go into the recorded programs and choose to delete or stop recording |
| [22:18:00] | Gumby: | mofu: either will stop the recording |
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| [22:18:00] | simon_c: | mofu: Delete what ? The recording in the frontend ? |
| [22:19:00] | mofu: | yep |
| [22:19:00] | Gumby: | yes |
| [22:20:00] | mofu: | Gumby: colored OSD, sounds pretty fancy |
| [22:21:00] | Gumby: | mofu: I just want the channel number to be a color. Greyscale just isnt a good option |
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| [22:21:00] | mofu: | why isn't white good enough?? |
| [22:21:00] | Gumby: | its hard to see on a lot of backgrounds |
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| [22:22:00] | simon_c: | OK. Thanks. |
| [22:22:00] | ** simon_c is used to sheduling progs in mythweb, and was looking there..... ** | |
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| [22:22:00] | Gumby: | maybe I can try a different font |
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| [22:23:00] | Gumby: | allthough, I dont want to change the font for the whole theme |
| [22:23:00] | mofu: | any color is always going blend into one background color . . . . best would be to have a contrasting halo around the font |
| [22:23:00] | Gumby: | hrm |
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| [22:24:00] | Gumby: | yes, true. |
| [22:25:00] | Gumby: | I think I saw something like that in the font options. |
| [22:25:00] | mofu: | does any tv even have intelligent OSD? contrasting to current background?? |
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| [22:25:00] | Gumby: | I doubt it. But look at most tv OSD's. They arent white or black |
| [22:25:00] | Gumby: | they are usually a brighter green or blue |
| [22:26:00] | mofu: | true |
| [22:26:00] | Chutt: | that's because they can't do outlines. |
| [22:26:00] | Gumby: | which is what I was trying to do :) |
| [22:26:00] | mofu: | gotcha |
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| [22:27:00] | mofu: | its got to be defined somewhere . . . . |
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| [22:27:00] | Gumby: | well, the guide I am reading says its either #xxxxxx or a rgb value of xxx |
| [22:29:00] | Gumby: | #xxxxxx doesnt seem to work. |
| [22:29:00] | Gumby: | any rgb value seems to return a greyscale |
| [22:30:00] | Gumby: | so, yes.. it is defined... but it doesnt seem to return anything other than greyscale |
| [22:30:00] | ivor: | Gumby: ho hum. using xvmc? |
| [22:30:00] | mofu: | or pvr350? |
| [22:32:00] | Gumby: | ivor: no, I was told not to |
| [22:32:00] | Gumby: | is that needed? |
| [22:33:00] | Gumby: | and no pvr350 either |
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| [22:37:00] | r10_: | hi |
| [22:38:00] | r10_: | whey do I get unabel to connect to database when I try to starte mythtv-setup, and when I try to do "mysql -u root < mc.sql" I get "Database exists" |
| [22:39:00] | r10_: | and I have started the mysql database |
| [22:39:00] | mofu: | r10_: did you run mythtv-setup? |
| [22:39:00] | simon_c: | same box as the database or a different box ? |
| [22:40:00] | r10_: | mocker: I am trying to run mythtv-setup, and yes it is the same box |
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| [22:40:00] | r10_: | mocker: sorry it was to mofu |
| [22:40:00] | mofu: | you don't have a root password set for mysql do you? |
| [22:41:00] | r10_: | mofu: I have root pass, and is trying to run mythtv-setup as root |
| [22:42:00] | Gumby: | r10_: you have to edit mysql.txt then |
| [22:43:00] | Gumby: | if you want mysql as user mythtv you have to add mythtv to the mysql users |
| [22:43:00] | Gumby: | and also to the grant tables |
| [22:43:00] | mofu: | mythtv-setup assumes root password for mysql is blank/null |
| [22:44:00] | Chutt: | mythtv-setup shouldn't need the root password. |
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| [23:08:00] | Gumby: | woohoo, I figured it out |
| [23:09:00] | Gumby: | instead of ... |
| [23:09:00] | Gumby: | <font name="channelfont"> |
| [23:09:00] | Gumby: | <color>255</color> |
| [23:09:00] | Gumby: | Its ... |
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| [23:10:00] | Gumby: | <color normal="#00FF00">255</color> |
| [23:10:00] | fryfrog: | is "watch tv" bizusted in current svn? |
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| [23:11:00] | fryfrog: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/159071 |
| [23:11:00] | fryfrog: | nm, aparantly it is :) |
| [23:11:00] | stoffel: | no, just disabled |
| [23:12:00] | stoffel: | i've heard it's almost working again |
| [23:12:00] | fryfrog: | spiffy |
| [23:13:00] | fryfrog: | i was able to run a full hdtv channel scan |
| [23:13:00] | fryfrog: | but now i can't test which channels work! |
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| [23:14:00] | fryfrog: | stoffel: have you "enabled" it on your end? |
| [23:14:00] | fryfrog: | to see how it works out? |
| [23:14:00] | Chutt: | dvb stuff's probably still broken. |
| [23:14:00] | stoffel: | yeah, but i didn't install latest svn yet |
| [23:14:00] | fryfrog: | ah, dvb busted would make hdtv testing hardish |
| [23:15:00] | fryfrog: | i guess i could take a look at the db entries, then manually tune the card to the channels |
| [23:15:00] | fryfrog: | and try and figure out which are valid / invalid that way |
| [23:15:00] | fryfrog: | then figure out what channel each valid one is and plug in their xmltv # |
| [23:15:00] | fryfrog: | sound like the right strategy? |
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| [23:23:00] | Kleptophobiac: | good evening |
| [23:26:00] | pookSter: | hello |
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| [23:40:00] | robbie: | anyone here using minimyth |
| [23:40:00] | robbie: | im trying to find out where to download gar so i can build it and add support for xbox remote |
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| [23:49:00] | djperegrine: | screwo this |
| [23:49:00] | djperegrine: | I am using R5A22 :P |
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| [23:51:00] | Servo888: | When in program guide – once you find a good channel can you some how switch to it? Seems enter and space just ask if I want to record it |
| [23:51:00] | o_cee: | there's a setting to change that behaviour |
| [23:52:00] | djperegrine: | Servo888, there is a option but, it overrides the recording thing |
| [23:52:00] | djperegrine: | so its either go to the channel or go to the recording setting |
| [23:53:00] | Servo888: | hmm |
| [23:53:00] | mofu: | anyone running HD on a single drive?? |
| [23:55:00] | mofu: | ok, anyone running HD?? |
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