| Wednesday, November 9th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | mofu: | Lightning: happy w/ 18.1 here |
| [00:00:00] | fatmatt: | mofu: did you get the packages from mdz? or cvs? |
| [00:00:00] | simon_c_home: | Would it ever be the case that upgrading to the lates code base would do something to the database that would stop earlier, stable versions from running ? I'd like to be able to test the latest stuff, but be able to fall back to the current version (running under a different userID) if I get problems. Would this work ? |
| [00:00:00] | mofu: | but concerned I may need to explore svn for better DVB support |
| [00:01:00] | mofu: | fatmatt: you should put mdz src repository in your sources.list |
| [00:02:00] | mofu: | fatmatt: apt-get build-dep mythtv |
| [00:02:00] | mofu: | fatmatt: apt-get source mythtv |
| [00:03:00] | mofu: | fatmatt: cd mythtv-0.18.1/ |
| [00:03:00] | mofu: | fatmatt: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc -b |
| [00:05:00] | mofu: | use dkpg -i to install resulting deb's it may spit back a couple errror meesages about needed dependencies, just install them w/ apt-get |
| [00:05:00] | rasto: | my infrared remote on pvr350 doesnt work. it did with kernel-2.6.13 and lirc 0.7.2 then i moved to 2.6.14 and i had to use 0.7.3 cvs version lirc. since then i mythtv doesnt react to infrared ... any ideas? how do i view log that is in database? |
| [00:06:00] | mofu: | myth doesn't log to database |
| [00:06:00] | rasto: | strange b/c on setup screen i can setup logging to mysql |
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| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | mofu, yes it does log to database |
| [00:07:00] | mofu: | must be new to svn |
| [00:07:00] | mofu: | ? |
| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | at least it did a while ago |
| [00:07:00] | kormoc: | it had that option at least at .17 |
| [00:07:00] | simon_c_home: | Beirdo: It's an option in .18.1 |
| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | unless that code got ripped out |
| [00:07:00] | Kabutor: | Waiting for mythtranscode to set up the fifos <== Nuvexport problem .. any suggest where to look? |
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| [00:08:00] | rasto: | how can i view that database log? is it the same as console? |
| [00:08:00] | rasto: | i dont see any lirc related stuff |
| [00:08:00] | Beirdo: | I think you can use mythweb to view it |
| [00:10:00] | mofu: | need to compile against DVB . . . |
| [00:10:00] | mofu: | getting: DVB support no [/usr/src/linux/include/linux/dvb] |
| [00:10:00] | dzen_: | :o |
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| [00:17:00] | Kabutor: | where can I get the doc for mythtranscode? |
| [00:17:00] | Agrajag-: | mofu: did you not read the configure --help for that option? |
| [00:18:00] | fatmatt: | can someone please tell me the apt-get install option to ignore dependencies? |
| [00:18:00] | mofu: | yeah, doesnt' my entry above look correct, will it tolerate a sym link? |
| [00:18:00] | Agrajag-: | no, it's not correct. i think you need to improve your reading skills |
| [00:20:00] | Agrajag-: | and yes symlinks are fine |
| [00:21:00] | mofu: | Agrajag-: I've tried /usr/src/ and /usr/include |
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| [00:21:00] | mofu: | choices are: |
| [00:21:00] | Lightning (n=Lightnin@208-244.119-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit () | |
| [00:21:00] | mofu: | /usr/include/linux/dvb/frontend.h |
| [00:22:00] | Agrajag-: | hang on.. read this very carefully and think about it: "location of directory containing 'linux/dvb/frontend.h', not the directory with frontend.h" |
| [00:22:00] | mofu: | /usr/src/linux-2.6.14/include/linux/dvb/frontend.h |
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| [00:23:00] | jasta: | xris: you there? |
| [00:24:00] | xris: | nop |
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| [00:25:00] | rasto: | does mythtv output any debug info about remote control? i've read somewhere that starting irxevent helps but not in my case |
| [00:26:00] | FunkyELF: | Is there a way to have mythfrontend browse a music folder without trying to do anything with a database? It would be fine if I started with nothing and then started ripping CD's, but I have like 15 gigs of mp3's already. It just freezes when go to "listen to music" |
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| [00:32:00] | Kabutor: | why if i add into /etc/nuvexportrc mythtranscode_cutlist=no it still takes as default cutlist = Yes ? (btw that was the error crashing the fifo creation) |
| [00:32:00] | eskil: | FunkyELF, do you mean "freeze" as in completely, or just that it takes 30–60 secs ? |
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| [00:34:00] | FunkyELF: | eskil, I waited a couple of minutes |
| [00:34:00] | eskil: | FunkyELF, and it doesn't come out of it at all ? |
| [00:34:00] | FunkyELF: | I guess I could try again |
| [00:34:00] | eskil: | FunkyELF, it's known that large collections takes a long time to load. |
| [00:35:00] | eskil: | FunkyELF, there's no workaround, but it's being worked on. |
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| [00:35:00] | eskil: | FunkyELF, ie. I have 30000 tracks/80GB between me and roommates, and it takes our box ~60secs to start playing music. |
| [00:36:00] | FunkyELF: | eskil, how do you handle it between room-mates? |
| [00:37:00] | FunkyELF: | I made a directory /usr/share/music and in there I created symbolic links to samba mounts for all the windows computers on the network |
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| [00:37:00] | a1fa: | hey |
| [00:37:00] | eskil: | FunkyELF, we each have machines, then we nfs mount stuff onto the mythbox, so ie /mnt/store/music/eskil is where my crap is mounted. |
| [00:37:00] | a1fa: | i cant get lirc to work |
| [00:37:00] | a1fa: | ;( |
| [00:37:00] | a1fa: | i dont have irxevent & |
| [00:37:00] | mofu: | Agrajag-: so, it doesn't want the full path, (past 'include') ? |
| [00:37:00] | eskil: | FunkyELF, gotta go... |
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| [00:44:00] | a1fa: | god |
| [00:44:00] | a1fa: | fucking d |
| [00:44:00] | a1fa: | excuse my chinese |
| [00:45:00] | ** kormoc shakes his head sadly ** | |
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| [00:45:00] | a1fa: | i dont get this |
| [00:46:00] | a1fa: | what does lircmd do? |
| [00:47:00] | a1fa: | no point |
| [00:47:00] | a1fa: | debians lirc.rc script is defuct |
| [00:49:00] | hburch: | lircmd is for mouse movement. useless, at least for me |
| [00:49:00] | a1fa: | yup |
| [00:49:00] | a1fa: | i just man that |
| [00:49:00] | a1fa: | how do i tell it to emulate keyboard |
| [00:49:00] | hburch: | Is lircd running? |
| [00:50:00] | a1fa: | yup |
| [00:50:00] | hburch: | Run irw and press some remote keys and make sure that works (not certain how far you are in the process) |
| [00:53:00] | ** jasta yawns ** | |
| [00:53:00] | jasta: | hi kormoc. |
| [00:53:00] | ** Beirdo farts at lirc ** | |
| [00:53:00] | jasta: | gonna be at work late tonight, sigh. |
| [00:53:00] | a1fa: | mytivo:/etc/init.d# irw |
| [00:53:00] | a1fa: | mytivo:/etc/init.d# |
| [00:54:00] | a1fa: | hburch: it just exits out |
| [00:54:00] | hburch: | that no good |
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| [00:54:00] | kormoc: | jasta, hihi |
| [00:54:00] | kormoc: | I am as well |
| [00:54:00] | kormoc: | but it's for game night :) |
| [00:54:00] | a1fa: | mytivo:/etc/init.d# ps aux | grep irw |
| [00:54:00] | a1fa: | root 3505 0.0 0.2 1844 592 pts/0 S+ 18:55 0:00 grep irw |
| [00:54:00] | hburch: | Is /dev/lircd a socket link? |
| [00:55:00] | a1fa: | lmeme |
| [00:55:00] | hburch: | myth libmythtv # ls -l /dev/lircd |
| [00:55:00] | hburch: | srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Nov 8 19:21 /dev/lircd |
| [00:55:00] | a1fa: | srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 2005-11–08 18:53 /dev/lircd |
| [00:56:00] | hburch: | ps aux | grep lircd |
| [00:56:00] | a1fa: | it crashes lircd |
| [00:56:00] | a1fa: | when i run irw it crashes lircd |
| [00:56:00] | jasta: | kormoc: Game night? |
| [00:56:00] | hburch: | what parameters are you giving to lircd? |
| [00:57:00] | kormoc: | jasta, yeah, table top pen and paper rpg night :) |
| [00:57:00] | a1fa: | none |
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| [00:57:00] | a1fa: | shoould i give it some parms? |
| [00:57:00] | hburch: | /usr/sbin/lircd -d /dev/lirc /etc/lircd.conf |
| [00:57:00] | hburch: | /usr/sbin/lircd -d /dev/lirc /etc/lircd.conf |
| [00:57:00] | hburch: | lircd -d /dev/lircd |
| [00:57:00] | a1fa: | Driver `' not supported. |
| [00:57:00] | a1fa: | Supported drivers: |
| [00:57:00] | a1fa: | default |
| [00:57:00] | hburch: | grr |
| [00:58:00] | hburch: | pick one |
| [00:58:00] | a1fa: | ah |
| [00:58:00] | hburch: | who's saying that? |
| [00:58:00] | a1fa: | that worked |
| [00:58:00] | a1fa: | : |
| [00:58:00] | a1fa: | cool |
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| [00:59:00] | a1fa: | <-- semi dumbass |
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| [00:59:00] | a1fa: | i dotn see a little red light blinking on streamzap |
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| [01:01:00] | hburch: | can't help you there...not familiar with streamzap |
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| [01:01:00] | a1fa: | fuck usb |
| [01:01:00] | a1fa: | seriously |
| [01:01:00] | a1fa: | usb is evil |
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| [01:04:00] | a1fa: | 00000000000028d3 00 RIGHT Streamzap_PC_Remote |
| [01:04:00] | abarbaccia_: | any way to scale down the mythtv GUI size? so i can overscan my video card, scale down mythtv, and use the offset to center it? |
| [01:04:00] | a1fa: | 0ok |
| [01:05:00] | a1fa: | Hal: its working now |
| [01:05:00] | a1fa: | so how do it tell mythtv to use it |
| [01:05:00] | a1fa: | usb was disabled in bios |
| [01:05:00] | a1fa: | i just caught on |
| [01:05:00] | Hal: | rofl |
| [01:05:00] | Hal: | that would do it |
| [01:06:00] | Hal: | Do you have a .mythtv/lircrc? |
| [01:06:00] | Hal: | in the home directory of the user running mythfrontend |
| [01:06:00] | a1fa: | yes |
| [01:07:00] | Hal: | Can you send me the first few lines? (past any comment, of course) |
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| [01:09:00] | a1fa: | it worked ;P |
| [01:09:00] | a1fa: | lol |
| [01:10:00] | Hal: | what was the last problem? |
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| [01:11:00] | my2keh: | Anyone here using DVB with Dishnetwork? |
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| [01:12:00] | my2keh: | anyone even here? heh |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | you can't use DVB with dish, it's encrypted |
| [01:14:00] | my2keh: | this is true, using Mytheatre I was able to un-encrypt it |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | and you can hack satellite somewhere else. |
| [01:14:00] | my2keh: | interesting |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | this isn't a satellite-hacking channel, sorry, dude |
| [01:15:00] | my2keh: | the FTA is free though |
| [01:15:00] | my2keh: | that's what i was using |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | K. |
| [01:15:00] | my2keh: | but i'm guessing still un-supported |
| [01:15:00] | my2keh: | darn |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | the FTA should work with DVB just fine |
| [01:15:00] | my2keh: | hmmm ok |
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| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | stupid satellite hackers |
| [01:19:00] | pookSter: | he certainly had a creative name lol |
| [01:19:00] | Beirdo: | he lives 3.5h north of Toronto |
| [01:20:00] | Beirdo: | he doesn't even have the possibility of legal Dishnetwork service, he's in Canada |
| [01:20:00] | pookSter: | well, its kind of a grey area up here |
| [01:20:00] | Beirdo: | no, it isn't |
| [01:20:00] | Beirdo: | the CRTC was quite clear on that |
| [01:20:00] | pookSter: | lots of people are subscribed with an american address |
| [01:20:00] | pookSter: | Its not enforced actively |
| [01:20:00] | Beirdo: | Dish isn't legally allowed to transmit here |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | therefore we aren't legally allowed to be subscribers |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | therefore we have no right to receive it |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | stupid ruling |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | but they were clear |
| [01:21:00] | pookSter: | I know the laws, but is not an enforced |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | and they don't enforce it for shit |
| [01:22:00] | pookSter: | there are storefronts in my area selling dish hardware |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | same here, but that's their problem |
| [01:22:00] | pookSter: | and cards |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | and I'm not gonna help people hack satellite in this channel |
| [01:22:00] | ** Beirdo is a former pitou user... ** | |
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| [01:23:00] | pookSter: | FTA does seem to be having a growth spurt at the moment |
| [01:23:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [01:23:00] | braniff: | what is FTA? |
| [01:23:00] | Beirdo: | free-to-air satellite |
| [01:23:00] | pookSter: | Free to Air satellite |
| [01:23:00] | braniff: | oh ok |
| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | which SHOULD work fine with DVB-S cards |
| [01:24:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, in this channel eh? so you'd help out in #hack_the_planet? |
| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
| [01:24:00] | kormoc: | drat :{ |
| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | more like in #fuck_the_crtc |
| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:24:00] | pookSter: | FTA used to be a real fun hobby |
| [01:24:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | s/crtc/fcc/ for yanks |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | but anyways |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | I ain't got time for that crap anymore, and I don't have view of any satellites from here |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | legal, free, or subscribed |
| [01:26:00] | Beirdo: | or illegal... can't see any satellites at all |
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| [01:26:00] | pookSter: | yeh, and the broadcast flag I think is going to rear its ugly head soon |
| [01:26:00] | pookSter: | you can't see any sats? |
| [01:26:00] | pookSter: | what planet are you on right now? |
| [01:26:00] | Beirdo: | broadcast flag is irrelevant to sat |
| [01:26:00] | braniff: | us govt is trying to make mythtv illegal as we speak |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:27:00] | pookSter: | thats why I am ordering an HD3000 this week |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | the US govt is trying to make breathing illegal |
| [01:27:00] | pookSter: | I think they are going to sneak it in |
| [01:27:00] | braniff: | http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/ . . . 6&tid=17 |
| [01:28:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not going to read slashdot crap |
| [01:28:00] | Beirdo: | I have better things to do with my time |
| [01:28:00] | kormoc: | braniff, never trust stuff on slashdot, because like, christ, there's a front page story written by *ME* :P |
| [01:28:00] | pookSter: | You wait Beirdo, once they get OTA controlled with it, the broadcast flag will be coming to a satellite soon |
| [01:28:00] | braniff: | kormoc, which one? |
| [01:29:00] | kormoc: | cedega 5.0 release |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [01:30:00] | braniff: | oh shit! i had no idea |
| [01:30:00] | jasta: | and upgrading exchange server 2003, woo :) |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | drwxr-xr-x 96 hpojlp lp 5264 2005-11–08 19:47 /etc |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | WTF? |
| [01:31:00] | Beirdo: | why the HELL isn't that root.root?! |
| [01:31:00] | linagee: | Beirdo: 0wned? |
| [01:31:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
| [01:31:00] | Beirdo: | craptacular packaging, I think |
| [01:32:00] | linagee: | i think you've been 0wn3d by a package. lol. |
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| [01:32:00] | ** braniff reads slashdot every day... ** | |
| [01:32:00] | linagee: | braniff: only every day?! |
| [01:32:00] | braniff: | heh |
| [01:32:00] | linagee: | not like three or four times a day? |
| [01:33:00] | braniff: | more like several times. yeah |
| [01:33:00] | linagee: | lol |
| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | I'd rather hit myself with a hammer |
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| [01:37:00] | jasta: | i used to read /. a lot |
| [01:38:00] | jasta: | then one day it just hit me how stupid it was |
| [01:38:00] | pookSter: | I read somewhere that reading poisons the mind |
| [01:39:00] | Beirdo: | reading bullshit is such a waste of energy |
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| [01:42:00] | a1fa: | guys |
| [01:43:00] | a1fa: | i am getting some crazy delay when i record shows |
| [01:43:00] | a1fa: | and watch them at the same time |
| [01:43:00] | a1fa: | crazy audio delay |
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| [01:43:00] | a1fa: | 2005-11–08 19:37:32.745 Opening audio device '/dev/dsp'. |
| [01:43:00] | a1fa: | 2005-11–08 19:37:32.745 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'. |
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| [01:46:00] | Beirdo: | so don't do that |
| [01:47:00] | atomjack: | i recently upgraded to the latest version of myth from svn, and now live tv doesn't work. nothing at all happens when i try to go to live tv – there's nothing in the log files (for either the frontend or backend). recordings still work just fine, just live tv doesn't do shit. anyone have any ideas? |
| [01:47:00] | Beirdo: | correct |
| [01:47:00] | Beirdo: | it's broken in SVN right now |
| [01:48:00] | Beirdo: | so watch recorded TV for now until it's fixed |
| [01:48:00] | atomjack: | ahhhh |
| [01:48:00] | atomjack: | ok thanks |
| [01:48:00] | Beirdo: | not a problem |
| [01:48:00] | atomjack: | i just did another svn update and a bunch of files have been changed so maybe that will help |
| [01:49:00] | Beirdo: | one never knows :) |
| [01:49:00] | atomjack: | i wonder if they'll fix the problems i've been having with hdtv broadcasts... |
| [01:49:00] | a1fa: | heheh |
| [01:49:00] | ** Beirdo FINALLY starts setting up amanda on the new server after months ** | |
| [01:49:00] | a1fa: | Beirdo: i wonder where is this delay comming from |
| [01:50:00] | a1fa: | i want it to go away |
| [01:50:00] | Beirdo: | what delay? |
| [01:50:00] | a1fa: | its annoying.. i wonder if thats the pvr-350 problem, since it has its own audio |
| [01:50:00] | Beirdo: | what's delaying in respect to what? |
| [01:50:00] | a1fa: | i get like 2s of audio |
| [01:50:00] | a1fa: | delayed in respect to the video |
| [01:51:00] | a1fa: | my setup is cable->pvr-350 |
| [01:51:00] | Beirdo: | when you do what? |
| [01:51:00] | a1fa: | audio is transfred via pci bus |
| [01:51:00] | a1fa: | watch tv |
| [01:51:00] | a1fa: | or record and watch tv |
| [01:51:00] | Beirdo: | dunno, never heard of that. |
| [01:51:00] | a1fa: | how can you offset audio |
| [01:53:00] | Dagmar: | Umm... Using the wrong sample rate |
| [01:54:00] | Dagmar: | Do you have a super-duper audio chipset? |
| [01:54:00] | a1fa: | how do you set the sample rate? where? |
| [01:54:00] | a1fa: | 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 40) |
| [01:54:00] | a1fa: | onboard |
| [01:54:00] | Beirdo: | you set it in the recording profile |
| [01:54:00] | Dagmar: | Somewhere in the config is hte audio sample rate... Recording Profiles I think. Make sure it's set to 48000. |
| [01:55:00] | Dagmar: | Some chipsets won't play at other than that, and if you're using something that's a little off, your audio will get lagged |
| [01:55:00] | a1fa: | can i kill mythfrontend while the show is recording? |
| [01:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [01:55:00] | atomjack: | yep |
| [01:55:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah |
| [01:55:00] | a1fa: | ok |
| [01:55:00] | a1fa: | thats good |
| [01:55:00] | atomjack: | as long as you dont kill the backend |
| [01:55:00] | a1fa: | check this out :P |
| [01:55:00] | a1fa: | kill -9 |
| [01:55:00] | mofu: | does the PVR-350 have audio-out when you use the decoder? |
| [01:55:00] | Beirdo: | I should think so |
| [01:55:00] | mofu: | me 2 |
| [01:56:00] | mofu: | is he stringing the sound through the sound card? |
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| [01:57:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [01:57:00] | mofu: | alfa? |
| [01:58:00] | Beirdo: | transferring over my old backups that never made it to tape. heh |
| [01:59:00] | a1fa: | i cant find that |
| [01:59:00] | a1fa: | recording profiles |
| [01:59:00] | mofu: | can't find what? |
| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | go into the frontend |
| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | setup |
| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | TV settings |
| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | recording profiles |
| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | or something like that |
| [02:00:00] | a1fa: | ok |
| [02:00:00] | a1fa: | set bitrate to what? |
| [02:00:00] | Beirdo: | whatever |
| [02:00:00] | a1fa: | i am not stringing it to soundcard |
| [02:00:00] | Beirdo: | it's the sample rate that Dagmar was saying |
| [02:00:00] | a1fa: | it is going via pci bus |
| [02:00:00] | a1fa: | its set to 45000 |
| [02:00:00] | a1fa: | i am moving it up |
| [02:00:00] | mofu: | alfa: are you using the decoder on the 350? |
| [02:01:00] | mofu: | sample rate doesn't affect pvr cards if I recall |
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| [02:01:00] | a1fa: | yes |
| [02:01:00] | a1fa: | decoder? |
| [02:01:00] | a1fa: | what do you mean decoder |
| [02:01:00] | a1fa: | sample rate is set to 48000 |
| [02:01:00] | a1fa: | bitrate is set to 382 kbps |
| [02:01:00] | a1fa: | layer II |
| [02:02:00] | mofu: | pvr250+decoder=pvr350 |
| [02:02:00] | mofu: | are you using video out on pvr or on other video card? |
| [02:03:00] | a1fa: | i am using another card |
| [02:03:00] | a1fa: | nvidia |
| [02:03:00] | a1fa: | for tv-out |
| [02:03:00] | mofu: | why buy the 350 then?? |
| [02:04:00] | Dagmar: | It was worth a shot. I couldn't think of any other possible reason other than audio driver that could cause the audio to become lagged |
| [02:04:00] | a1fa: | it takes me about 2s to change a channel |
| [02:04:00] | a1fa: | i borrowed it |
| [02:04:00] | a1fa: | i am buying pvr-350 |
| [02:04:00] | Dagmar: | That's usual |
| [02:04:00] | Dagmar: | It takes a moment for the encoding buffer to fill |
| [02:04:00] | a1fa: | i hate that ;( |
| [02:04:00] | a1fa: | what happened to good old tv |
| [02:05:00] | a1fa: | channels change in les then a secx |
| [02:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | you aren't capture/encoding/buffer/decoding "good old tv" |
| [02:05:00] | Hal: | it's 6 secs on my machine, for some reason. |
| [02:05:00] | mofu: | a1fa: You WILL NOT WATCH LIVE TV ONCE you use it a while |
| [02:05:00] | Beirdo: | a1fa, then go back to watching on the TV for instant channel changes. :) |
| [02:05:00] | mofu: | no doubt |
| [02:05:00] | Beirdo: | trust me, you will likely end up watching your TV from recordings, not live |
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| [02:06:00] | a1fa: | yeah dude |
| [02:06:00] | a1fa: | i am not watching live tv again |
| [02:06:00] | a1fa: | i figured out the delay |
| [02:07:00] | a1fa: | there is a delay only if i am recording a tv show and watching the same program atm |
| [02:07:00] | a1fa: | why is that |
| [02:07:00] | a1fa: | Hal: omg.. man.. i am sorry! 6s.. i am so sorry |
| [02:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you are watching the same show you are recording ? |
| [02:07:00] | Beirdo: | huh? |
| [02:07:00] | Beirdo: | WTF |
| [02:07:00] | Beirdo: | delay from what to what? |
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| [02:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | you ONLY have the 350 in there right? No other capture cards ? |
| [02:08:00] | a1fa: | yup |
| [02:08:00] | a1fa: | audio delay man |
| [02:08:00] | mofu: | what port are you listening to audio on? |
| [02:08:00] | a1fa: | like.. i recorded the biggest loser |
| [02:08:00] | a1fa: | /dev/dsp |
| [02:09:00] | mofu: | NO physically . . . |
| [02:09:00] | a1fa: | line out |
| [02:09:00] | mofu: | of . . . |
| [02:09:00] | Beirdo: | like pulling teeth |
| [02:09:00] | a1fa: | sorry man.. english 2nd language here |
| [02:09:00] | mofu: | line out of . . . . |
| [02:09:00] | a1fa: | i know you fellas cant read my mind.. thanks for being patient with me |
| [02:09:00] | a1fa: | line out of the sound card |
| [02:09:00] | a1fa: | the little green output :P |
| [02:10:00] | mofu: | ok |
| [02:10:00] | a1fa: | i am not using alsa module tho |
| [02:10:00] | a1fa: | maybe that is the problem |
| [02:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | But if you watch something that is not currently being receorded you don't hear that audio delay ? |
| [02:10:00] | a1fa: | yes |
| [02:10:00] | a1fa: | for example.. i am recording earl right now and watching biggest looser.. there is no delay |
| [02:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, that is one I've never heard of. It makes absolutely no sense |
| [02:11:00] | mofu: | your not listening to Myth audio and watching live feed are you? |
| [02:11:00] | a1fa: | ? what do you mean? |
| [02:12:00] | a1fa: | i am not listening to music |
| [02:12:00] | a1fa: | ok.. lets start over.. i might've confused you |
| [02:12:00] | a1fa: | i scheduled to record the biggest loser |
| [02:12:00] | Hal: | I think mofu may have it right |
| [02:12:00] | a1fa: | 10 minutes into the show |
| [02:12:00] | a1fa: | i went to recorded shows |
| [02:12:00] | a1fa: | and opened the biggest loser |
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| [02:12:00] | a1fa: | so i can skip commercial |
| [02:13:00] | a1fa: | but there was this awful out-of-sync between the audio and video |
| [02:13:00] | a1fa: | does this make sence |
| [02:13:00] | Hal: | who is ahead? |
| [02:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | a1fa: Can you paste the output of "xvinfo" to pastebin.ca ? |
| [02:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | and if possible a copy of your X config ? |
| [02:14:00] | mofu: | alfa: which is ahead of which? |
| [02:15:00] | a1fa: | i think audio is ahead |
| [02:16:00] | a1fa: | and i think it only happens if i fast forward |
| [02:16:00] | a1fa: | or rewind |
| [02:16:00] | a1fa: | http://pastebin.ca/28071 |
| [02:16:00] | mofu: | which leads to GreyFoxx's questions, about video |
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| [02:17:00] | a1fa: | http://pastebin.ca/28072 |
| [02:17:00] | mofu: | the other question is have you checked IRQ conflicts? |
| [02:18:00] | a1fa: | nope. let me check that |
| [02:18:00] | a1fa: | 10: 825461 XT-PIC ivtv0, uhci_hcd, uhci_hcd, eth0 |
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| [02:19:00] | Beirdo: | oh this should be fun |
| [02:19:00] | a1fa: | ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:11.2[D] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 |
| [02:19:00] | Beirdo: | stupid me |
| [02:19:00] | Beirdo: | my backups are 6 months overdue |
| [02:19:00] | Beirdo: | ick |
| [02:19:00] | a1fa: | 10: 825461 XT-PIC ivtv0, uhci_hcd, uhci_hcd, eth0 |
| [02:20:00] | a1fa: | well, i dont know |
| [02:20:00] | a1fa: | ivtv0 and eth0 are on the same irq |
| [02:20:00] | mofu: | alfa: lspci -v to pastebin . . . . |
| [02:20:00] | a1fa: | http://pastebin.ca/28073 |
| [02:21:00] | mofu: | ack . . . . KT266 chipset . . . . |
| [02:22:00] | a1fa: | yeah.. no kidding.. old mobo |
| [02:22:00] | a1fa: | i got an athlon XP 1800+ |
| [02:22:00] | a1fa: | and it can only run on 90% of its real power |
| [02:22:00] | a1fa: | the mobo doesnt support 1.4ghz |
| [02:23:00] | a1fa: | and the cpu at default fsb runs at 1.53ghz |
| [02:23:00] | a1fa: | so now i run at 121 mhz fsb |
| [02:24:00] | a1fa: | what do you think guy |
| [02:25:00] | mofu: | http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Via_motherboard_problems |
| [02:25:00] | mofu: | I think pushing the FSB is not helping your problem |
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| [02:27:00] | a1fa: | dude |
| [02:27:00] | Dagmar: | Man you should be able to raise the multiplier |
| [02:27:00] | a1fa: | i think this sowls my reboot/shutdown problem |
| [02:27:00] | a1fa: | Dagmar: not on XP |
| [02:27:00] | Dagmar: | Of course not. In your *BIOS* tho |
| [02:27:00] | a1fa: | nope |
| [02:27:00] | a1fa: | i am talking about XP Athlon |
| [02:27:00] | a1fa: | its locked |
| [02:28:00] | a1fa: | to 11.5 |
| [02:28:00] | a1fa: | you need to do that pen hack |
| [02:28:00] | Dagmar: | a1fa: I can change the multiplier on mine |
| [02:28:00] | mofu: | so how slow would it run 1.15 ghz? |
| [02:28:00] | mofu: | might be ok |
| [02:28:00] | Dagmar: | Do you have the old or new core? |
| [02:29:00] | a1fa: | i dunno |
| [02:29:00] | a1fa: | i am thinking the old one |
| [02:29:00] | Dagmar: | Is the chip supposed to run at ~1.5Ghz core or ~1.2Ghz core |
| [02:29:00] | a1fa: | ~1.5ghz core |
| [02:29:00] | a1fa: | fsb 133mhz |
| [02:29:00] | Dagmar: | Okay, so you have the newer core one. |
| [02:29:00] | a1fa: | and the mobo doenst really support this cpu |
| [02:30:00] | GeekZoid: | nhi |
| [02:30:00] | GeekZoid: | Does anyone use the SYN version of Mythtv-user |
| [02:30:00] | mofu: | just let it underclock and see how it is |
| [02:30:00] | Dagmar: | a1fa: Well, if it's any encouragement I just pushed mine out to being a dedicated MythTV backend and got an Athlon64 3200+ |
| [02:30:00] | GeekZoid: | and record onto dvds |
| [02:31:00] | ** GeekZoid is having trouble recording his shows to dvd ** | |
| [02:31:00] | GeekZoid: | can anyone help/ |
| [02:31:00] | Dagmar: | Turn *off* "spread spectrum" if you're going to run the thing at non-statndard bus speeds, too |
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| [02:41:00] | GeekZoid: | hi |
| [02:41:00] | GeekZoid: | Does anyone use the SYNversion of the myth-tv |
| [02:41:00] | GeekZoid: | and if so how do you record shows to dvd |
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| [02:46:00] | pookSter: | Greyfox..... |
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| [02:46:00] | Krazylegz: | kormoc: Thanks for your help. That worked perfectly for me. |
| [02:46:00] | ** Krazylegz hands kormoc a cookie ** | |
| [02:46:00] | a1fa: | spread spectrum is off |
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| [02:55:00] | a1fa: | its working ok |
| [02:55:00] | a1fa: | i just overloaded the tv-tuner it didnt crash |
| [02:55:00] | a1fa: | so its a good sign |
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| [02:55:00] | Beirdo: | I need to buy a pile of DDS-3 tapes some decade |
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| [02:56:00] | a1fa: | why |
| [02:57:00] | Beirdo: | for faster backups |
| [02:58:00] | a1fa: | i am getting extended cable tomorrow |
| [02:59:00] | a1fa: | http://www.conwaycorp.com/Channelguide.asp?Pa . . . 9605E0B1EF1} |
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| [03:05:00] | JohnP789: | Anybody want to recommend a cheap AGP fanless video card for a frontend box? Needs to have good TV out. |
| [03:05:00] | a1fa: | nvidia gforce mx4000 |
| [03:05:00] | a1fa: | $30 |
| [03:05:00] | a1fa: | it has dvi-out |
| [03:05:00] | a1fa: | and a decent tv out |
| [03:05:00] | mofu: | or fx5200 |
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| [03:06:00] | mofu: | only slightly more |
| [03:06:00] | a1fa: | does fx5200 have a better tv-out |
| [03:06:00] | a1fa: | i still havent seen a good tv-out |
| [03:06:00] | a1fa: | thats why i am going to buy a tv with dvi |
| [03:07:00] | JohnP789: | ATI used to have the better TV out quality. |
| [03:07:00] | Beirdo: | and still do |
| [03:07:00] | Beirdo: | too bad the drivers are a bitch |
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| [03:08:00] | JohnP789: | ATI's drivers aren't good? I've had nVidia cards for a while now. |
| [03:09:00] | a1fa: | later |
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| [03:10:00] | akaias: | i finall have a working mythtv box but have a small problem. svideo out (nvidia geforce4 4200Ti) works. using DVI however, the picture is to the left of the screeen (several characters are cut). This is on a Samsung 26" widescreen hdtv. I have two chocies for DVI standard: 861B or SMPTE. both start the scrren to far left, and leave cut off chars. this is on boot. I'm not even into X/Gnome yet. Any ideas? |
| [03:11:00] | Dagmar: | akaias: Run the nvidia setup utility |
| [03:13:00] | akaias: | dagmar: installing it now. do changes with this get written to the card? |
| [03:13:00] | Dagmar: | Probably |
| [03:15:00] | Dagmar: | ...and it's not something you have to install. It should have come with the nVidia driver and would have been installed when you did that part. |
| [03:15:00] | Chutt: | depends on the distro |
| [03:15:00] | Chutt: | debian/ubuntu split it off |
| [03:15:00] | Dagmar: | That was dumb |
| [03:16:00] | Chutt: | it's an extra set of deps |
| [03:16:00] | Chutt: | so, no, not really. |
| [03:16:00] | Dagmar: | One binary. |
| [03:17:00] | Dagmar: | Basically has the same deps as X. Is only used when you have X. |
| [03:17:00] | Chutt: | links against gtk |
| [03:17:00] | Chutt: | so, no. |
| [03:17:00] | Dagmar: | So, no. Separating it from the driver module was dumb. |
| [03:17:00] | Chutt: | ldd it :p |
| [03:17:00] | Dagmar: | I see it |
| [03:17:00] | mstanisl_: | kernel space and userland, it makes perfect sense to seperate. |
| [03:17:00] | Chutt: | it certainly depends on more than X |
| [03:18:00] | Dagmar: | They've got the capability to declare some dependencies as optional |
| [03:18:00] | Chutt: | it also doesn't change as often as the kernel. |
| [03:18:00] | Chutt: | and, it's a separate download :p |
| [03:18:00] | Chutt: | ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nvidia-settings/ |
| [03:19:00] | akaias: | dagmar: ah. i thought you were talking about the gnome nvidia x settings. |
| [03:19:00] | Dagmar: | *sigh* I have been getting it in the same shar archive as the driver itself for years now |
| [03:19:00] | Chutt: | yup. it's also available separately. |
| [03:19:00] | Dagmar: | It *comes* with the driver. |
| [03:19:00] | Chutt: | not always. |
| [03:19:00] | Dagmar: | Whatever |
| [03:20:00] | Chutt: | might as well bitch about the X server + dev files being split. |
| [03:24:00] | akaias: | well nvidia-settings is fine but its GUI. my problem is on first boot, the BIOS text is shifted left. i'm not even booting the kernel yet let alone in gnome. is this an issue with the video card? |
| [03:25:00] | Chutt: | a lot of tv's don't like anything other than a few resolutions over dvi |
| [03:26:00] | Dagmar: | Adjust your panel. The text screens should be in a fixed position |
| [03:27:00] | akaias: | well i'll mess with it,. this is a CRT TV. no lcd here. |
| [03:27:00] | Dagmar: | Well, the settings utility is all you've got there then. |
| [03:28:00] | ** pookSter wonders if there is anyone lurking here that has heard how well an Nvidia 6600GT video card with component out works with myth? ** | |
| [03:28:00] | Dagmar: | Works fine |
| [03:29:00] | pookSter: | no tearing? |
| [03:29:00] | pookSter: | thats a fanless card right? |
| [03:29:00] | Dagmar: | Yes |
| [03:29:00] | Dagmar: | Mine is anyway |
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| [03:29:00] | Dagmar: | They don't have to be |
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| [03:30:00] | pookSter: | cool, sounds like a nice substatution for the little audio authority box |
| [03:30:00] | Dagmar: | It's overkill for Myth |
| [03:30:00] | pookSter: | the 6600gt is the one thats under $100 |
| [03:30:00] | Dagmar: | ...at least, unless you plan on doing some GL hackery so that channel changes fly apart into little dodecahedrons and so forth |
| [03:31:00] | Chutt: | mythui's all opengl |
| [03:31:00] | Dagmar: | Yes, but it's flat. |
| [03:31:00] | Chutt: | but it's all 2d stuff, so just blends |
| [03:31:00] | Dagmar: | ...and you're getting the model number confused if you think the 6600gt regularly sells for sub $100 |
| [03:32:00] | Dagmar: | Even the non-GT versions start just over $100 |
| [03:32:00] | Dagmar: | Some of the cheaper pci-e models go for in the $90range |
| [03:33:00] | jemarcks__: | how do i enable the ftp server on my htpc. when i access it from outside it says 'connection refused' |
| [03:33:00] | Dagmar: | ... cheaper 6600 non-gt |
| [03:33:00] | Beirdo: | Hmmm. that tape didn't like me much. |
| [03:33:00] | Dagmar: | You can probably use a good name-brand 5200 for what little Myth needs |
| [03:33:00] | Beirdo: | Chutt: if there's no openGL on the system, the mythui stuff will revert to "current" blending behavior or something? |
| [03:34:00] | Chutt: | current |
| [03:34:00] | Chutt: | slow stuff |
| [03:34:00] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [03:34:00] | Beirdo: | which means it should still work for people with OpenGL-challenged cards... |
| [03:35:00] | pookSter: | yes, you are right Dagmar, that was PCIX I was looking at |
| [03:35:00] | Beirdo: | which is good as I've never bothered to get it working on my ATI card :) |
| [03:35:00] | Dagmar: | pookSter: Those may be TurboCache cards as well, which basically, suck. |
| [03:35:00] | Dagmar: | pookSter: Think WinVideo. |
| [03:35:00] | pookSter: | ok tnx |
| [03:36:00] | Dagmar: | I hadn't heard of a 6600 tc model, but they might have them by now |
| [03:36:00] | Beirdo: | (34 filesystems overdue, the most being overdue 161 days) |
| [03:36:00] | Beirdo: | eek |
| [03:39:00] | mofu: | jemarcks__: install ssh package, use sftp . . . . |
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| [03:47:00] | awesome: | can I have both a AVerMedia771 and a HauppaugePVR500 running in the same server? |
| [03:48:00] | mofu: | shouldn't be an issue . . . . |
| [03:48:00] | jemarcks__: | mofo, im using vsftp :) |
| [03:49:00] | mofu: | assuming you can get the 500 working 100%, . . . . which might be problematic from some reports |
| [03:50:00] | awesome: | well, I had the dvb card working |
| [03:50:00] | awesome: | I could get it working np |
| [03:50:00] | awesome: | but then, I installed the ivtv drivers |
| [03:50:00] | Dagmar: | I've no problems with the PVR-500 |
| [03:50:00] | awesome: | and now the avremedia doesn't work. |
| [03:50:00] | awesome: | the modules wont load |
| [03:51:00] | awesome: | give me a sec and i'll get you an error |
| [03:53:00] | Dagmar: | Examine carefully your syslog output and read the docs on the modules to find out what params you can pass. |
| [03:54:00] | Dagmar: | Dollars to doughnuts that one or more of the modules is detecting and claiming resources on the wrong card. |
| [03:54:00] | pookSter: | I think I'm off to bed...night everyone..............mmmm....doughnuts... |
| [03:55:00] | awesome: | WARNING: Error inserting bttv |
| [03:55:00] | awesome: | (/lib/modules/2.6.14/kernel/drivers/media/video/bttv.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter |
| [03:56:00] | awesome: | and then i get this in /var/log/messages |
| [03:56:00] | awesome: | linux kernel: bttv: disagrees about version of symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog |
| [03:57:00] | Dagmar: | So rebuild your modules |
| [03:58:00] | awesome: | just do "make modules && make modules_install" again? |
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| [04:02:00] | rasto: | does mythtv output any debug info about remote control? i've read somewhere that starting irxevent helps but not in my case |
| [04:02:00] | Hal: | rasto: does irw tell you buttons are being pressed? |
| [04:02:00] | rasto: | yes |
| [04:02:00] | rasto: | Hal: works for any other app |
| [04:03:00] | Agrajag-: | rasto: your ~/.mythtv/lircrc isn't right then, or you haven't compiled with lirc support |
| [04:03:00] | Hal: | rasto: do you have a .mythtv/lircrc in the user's directory |
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| [04:04:00] | rasto: | i've noticed that when i start mplayer i get accepted new client on /dev/lircd in my /var/log/messages |
| [04:04:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah you'd get that from mythtv too if it does connect |
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| [04:04:00] | rasto: | Agrajag-: i've used lirc flag when building it |
| [04:04:00] | simcop2387: | is there any way to automagically update the thumbnails for mythweb (the recorded shows ones) |
| [04:05:00] | awesome: | how the hell do I turn in dvb support for myth? |
| [04:05:00] | Agrajag-: | rasto: and you have a ~/.mythtv/lircrc ? |
| [04:05:00] | rasto: | Agrajag-: so for some reason it doesnt build it with remote support |
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| [04:05:00] | Agrajag-: | awesome: run configure with the correct dvb flags |
| [04:05:00] | rasto: | Agrajag-: yes ls -l .mythtv/lircrc .lircrc |
| [04:05:00] | rasto: | lrwxrwxrwx 1 rasto users 26 Oct 16 18:26 .lircrc -> /home/rasto/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [04:05:00] | rasto: | -rw-r--r-- 1 rasto users 6034 Oct 20 04:24 .mythtv/lircrc |
| [04:05:00] | rasto: | Agrajag-: i need dvb? |
| [04:06:00] | rasto: | damnit that must be it |
| [04:06:00] | Agrajag-: | no, i was talking to awesome |
| [04:06:00] | rasto: | oh |
| [04:06:00] | awesome: | Agrajag-, got any location on documentation for this? |
| [04:06:00] | prologic_: | umm guys, how do I delete a recording once I've transcoded and exported it (using nuvexport), hitting d in Media Library -> Watch Recordings doesn't seem to work |
| [04:06:00] | Agrajag-: | awesome: configure --help |
| [04:07:00] | rasto: | [ebuild R ] media-tv/mythtv-0.18.1-r2 +alsa (-altivec) -arts -debug -dvb -frontendonly -ieee1394 -jack +joystick -lcd +lirc (-mmx) +nvidia +opengl +oss -unichrome +vorbis 0 kB |
| [04:07:00] | rasto: | so basically i had lirc set in configure. let me check logs |
| [04:07:00] | simcop2387: | Agrajag-: DNA is even IRC'ing post mortum |
| [04:08:00] | simcop2387: | what a guy |
| [04:08:00] | rasto: | this is what i have in configure |
| [04:08:00] | rasto: | WARNING: include the output of ./configure along with |
| [04:09:00] | rasto: | ops |
| [04:09:00] | rasto: | ./configure --prefix=/usr --host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --libdir=/usr/lib64 --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --disable-altivec --enable-audio-oss --enable-audio-alsa --disable-audio-arts --disable-audio-jack --enable-lirc --enable-joystick-menu --disable-xvmc-vld --disable-dvb --disable-dvb-eit --dvb-path=/usr/include --enable-opengl-vsync --enable |
| [04:09:00] | awesome: | Agrajag- what's the dvd header directory? |
| [04:09:00] | Agrajag-: | awesome: wherever your linux source is |
| [04:10:00] | awesome: | gotchya |
| [04:10:00] | Hal: | rasto: no error messages from mythfrontend about it, I presume |
| [04:10:00] | Agrajag-: | awesome: i tihnk you need to read the --help more carefully.. it tells you |
| [04:10:00] | awesome: | it does? |
| [04:10:00] | rasto: | Hal: that's the problem i dont see anything lirc related |
| [04:10:00] | awesome: | I just spent 5 mins trying to find anything related to "dvb" |
| [04:10:00] | awesome: | and got nothing |
| [04:10:00] | awesome: | must of missed it |
| [04:10:00] | rasto: | Hal: and i dont have mythweb to check logs in database |
| [04:11:00] | rasto: | --enable-dvb enable DVB support (must supply header directory) |
| [04:11:00] | Hal: | grep LIRC libs/libmyth/libmyth.pro |
| [04:12:00] | awesome: | yeah, I found that. |
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| [04:12:00] | rasto: | Hal: libmyth.pro ?? i dont have that |
| [04:12:00] | rasto: | lots of libmyth libraries |
| [04:13:00] | Hal: | rasto: um...that's from the source directory of mythtv |
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| [04:13:00] | rasto: | oh |
| [04:13:00] | rasto: | DEFINES += USE_LIRC LIBS += $$LIRC_LIBS |
| [04:14:00] | rasto: | there might be a problem b/c im using cvs version of lirc? |
| [04:15:00] | rasto: | i have 0.7.3 cvs anything lower wont compile on kernel 2.6.14 |
| [04:15:00] | rasto: | and my dual opteron doesnt like 2.6.13 (or it was that NUMA option in kernel) |
| [04:17:00] | rasto: | # Input Support |
| [04:17:00] | rasto: | Joystick menu no |
| [04:17:00] | rasto: | lirc support no |
| [04:17:00] | rasto: | ivtv support yes |
| [04:17:00] | rasto: | that is strange! some test probably failed on lirc |
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| [04:20:00] | prologic_: | hrmm this is stupid |
| [04:21:00] | prologic_: | how do you permanately delete a recording ? |
| [04:21:00] | rasto: | im not there yet |
| [04:21:00] | rasto: | cant get lirc to work |
| [04:23:00] | prologic_: | weee |
| [04:23:00] | prologic_: | my fault :) |
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| [04:28:00] | prologic_: | What do the job options "Begin Transdocing" and "Begin Commercial Flagging" really do ? And how do you tell if a recording has had either done to it ? |
| [04:29:00] | rasto: | ok it looks like even that i have --enable-lirc set, ./configure script decides to not enable lirc ... |
| [04:29:00] | DarkBeer: | is this where we wait for you to read it yourself again, then get the "wee my fault :)" response? :P |
| [04:30:00] | rasto: | nope |
| [04:30:00] | prologic_: | no :) |
| [04:30:00] | prologic_: | that really was my fault |
| [04:30:00] | prologic_: | I use libtrash on my system |
| [04:30:00] | prologic_: | serious question above :) |
| [04:31:00] | rasto: | it looks like configure doesnt find lirc library and decides not to build lirc instead of telling me theres a problem |
| [04:34:00] | Chutt: | it told you there was a problem. |
| [04:34:00] | Chutt: | the whole 'lirc support no' line? |
| [04:34:00] | rasto: | yes i found it but althoug i have the libraries and header it wont aneble it |
| [04:35:00] | rasto: | so i added lirc=yes into ./configure |
| [04:35:00] | rasto: | lets see what happens |
| [04:35:00] | awesome: | ok, I have ivtv/hauppauge pvr500 and an avermedia771, now after setting up ivtv/myth I am now getting thsi following error when attemptign to load up the bttv drivers |
| [04:35:00] | awesome: | linux kernel: bttv: disagrees about version of symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog Nov 9 14:32:16 linux kernel: bttv: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog |
| [04:37:00] | rasto: | awesome: i see errors like this when i still have old kernel and trying to use new modules ... |
| [04:38:00] | awesome: | nah, that isn't it. |
| [04:39:00] | awesome: | nah, it' all pointing to the right stuff |
| [04:39:00] | awesome: | you see that erro is in /var/log/messages |
| [04:39:00] | awesome: | when I actualyl do the modprobe I get this |
| [04:39:00] | awesome: | WARNING: Error inserting bttv |
| [04:39:00] | awesome: | (/lib/modules/2.6.14/kernel/drivers/media/video/bttv.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter |
| [04:39:00] | awesome: | this worked at one stage as well |
| [04:39:00] | rasto: | awesome: wrong driver for this kernel. |
| [04:40:00] | awesome: | it seems to have developed since i installed the ivtv stuff |
| [04:40:00] | rasto: | i usually do make clean ; make modules && make modules_install |
| [04:40:00] | awesome: | the kernal I have loaded is 2.6.14. and that's the 2.6.14 error. :\ |
| [04:41:00] | rasto: | if it doesnt work i try to downgrade driver |
| [04:41:00] | rasto: | OH |
| [04:41:00] | rasto: | bttv is module from kernel |
| [04:41:00] | rasto: | hmm |
| [04:43:00] | awesome: | yeah, it did work remember |
| [04:43:00] | awesome: | and now it's stopped working |
| [04:43:00] | awesome: | all on this kernel |
| [04:44:00] | rasto: | i would rm that driver from /lib/modules. cp arch/boot/bzimage /boot and make modules_install |
| [04:46:00] | awesome: | yeah, ok |
| [04:46:00] | jemarcks__: | how do i enable the ftp server on my htpc? When i access it from outside it says 'connection refused'. |
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| [04:51:00] | awesome: | I think this is the problem |
| [04:51:00] | awesome: | When running a make install, you may have noticed that warning messages about moving some modules. There are duplicate modules for tda9887, tveeprom, tuner and msp3400, one provided with the kernel (from the v4l project) the other with ivtv itself. There is work at the moment to merge these conflicting versions, but in the meantime the one version has to go, so remove the kernel provided version: |
| [04:53:00] | rasto: | so. basically you should disable bttv in kernel |
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| [04:53:00] | Dagmar: | ivtv tells you point blank you should disable pretty much everytthing in the way of V4l drivers |
| [04:53:00] | rasto: | if you want to use the one from ivtv |
| [04:53:00] | Dagmar: | ...and they *do* screw things up |
| [04:54:00] | awesome: | so in other words |
| [04:55:00] | awesome: | ican not have a dvb card and a card taht requires IVTV in the same box? |
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| [04:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have had a bttv card, a couple pvr 250's and advb card all in the same box without any hassles. At least nothing I can remember |
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| [04:57:00] | awesome: | that doesn't help |
| [04:57:00] | awesome: | :( |
| [04:58:00] | awesome: | I don't see how, at the moment. |
| [04:58:00] | rasto: | ok it cant find lirc header |
| [04:58:00] | Chutt: | greyfoxx, why do people try to piss me off? |
| [04:58:00] | awesome: | i'm not using lirc |
| [04:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chutt: No lives, sad pathetic people who feel powerful by taunting someone online while they feel safe behind a keyboard :) |
| [04:59:00] | Chutt: | heh |
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| [04:59:00] | rasto: | Failed lirc header test |
| [04:59:00] | rasto: | In file included from /tmp/ffmpeg-conf-13191-7832–16763.c:1: |
| [04:59:00] | rasto: | /usr/include/lirc/lirc_client.h:93: error: parse error before "lirc_getsocketname" |
| [04:59:00] | rasto: | /usr/include/lirc/lirc_client.h:93: error: parse error before "size_t" |
| [04:59:00] | Dagmar: | awesome: Right now, unless you're very, very good with module gymnastics, you're out of luck |
| [04:59:00] | rasto: | /usr/include/lirc/lirc_client.h:96: error: parse error before "size_t" |
| [04:59:00] | rasto: | that sucks |
| [04:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've come across many of those in my 14 years on IRC. funny how most are not the same irl :) |
| [04:59:00] | rasto: | header file broken? |
| [05:00:00] | awesome: | Dagmar, no i'm not. |
| [05:00:00] | Dagmar: | rasto: The good news is that ffmpeg doesn't really gain that much from lirc |
| [05:00:00] | Chutt: | irxevent works just as well as native lirc support |
| [05:00:00] | rasto: | Chutt: it doesnt do anything for me |
| [05:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chutt: It's not that same guy on the mailing list is it? I haven't noticed him in days now |
| [05:00:00] | Chutt: | naw |
| [05:01:00] | Chutt: | the guy that thought munging up the wiki was a good idea |
| [05:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhhh |
| [05:01:00] | Dagmar: | Lamers do that all the time |
| [05:01:00] | Chutt: | it was just duplicate information, and stuff i thought was unnecessary for the front page of the wiki |
| [05:01:00] | Chutt: | but apparently i'm all evil because i reverted it |
| [05:02:00] | Dagmar: | Ah, you got lucky then. Usually what I see is a bunch of links about ci@lis and v1@gr4 |
| [05:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think we should bring back public floggings/punishment. Couple good lashes in a public forumn can be a bug deterent. And if anything gives you a nice satisifaction at getting payback :) |
| [05:02:00] | Dagmar: | GreyFoxx: I've been saying for years we should bring back the pillory for spammers |
| [05:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, if it was up to me (and lucky for everyone that it isn't) it would extend to a lot more stuff :) |
| [05:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | "Oh, you parked in a handicap zone cause you were "only gonna be a minute" ? *public flogging!* " |
| [05:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [05:07:00] | a1fa: | grrr |
| [05:07:00] | a1fa: | i hate this |
| [05:08:00] | a1fa: | you must have a keyboard and a mouse ready on every reboot |
| [05:08:00] | a1fa: | No core pointer |
| [05:08:00] | a1fa: | how do you fix this problem |
| [05:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | edit your x config and set a core pointer ? |
| [05:09:00] | a1fa: | lol i know |
| [05:09:00] | a1fa: | but i dont have it plugged in |
| [05:09:00] | a1fa: | it works when i plug it in |
| [05:09:00] | a1fa: | but i dont want to beputting a mouse and a keyboard after every reset |
| [05:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | So the PC wont boot without a keyboard attached ? |
| [05:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's just a BIOS setting |
| [05:09:00] | a1fa: | pc boots. but x wont start |
| [05:09:00] | rasto: | my computer wont boot off hard driv e when no keyboard is in... thats even worse |
| [05:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | ic |
| [05:10:00] | a1fa: | xorg doesnt want to start w/o keyboard |
| [05:10:00] | a1fa: | and a mouse |
| [05:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never had X complain about no keyboard or mouse on any system I've ever used |
| [05:10:00] | a1fa: | so everytime i reboot i need to get a mouse |
| [05:10:00] | Dagmar: | It's leet like that |
| [05:10:00] | mstanisl_: | just don't reboot :) |
| [05:10:00] | Dagmar: | You can get around the mouse issue by telling it you have a USB mouse on /dev/input/mice |
| [05:11:00] | a1fa: | mytivo:~# grep "input/m" /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| [05:11:00] | a1fa: | Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" |
| [05:11:00] | rasto: | yay they fixed lirc in cvs :) |
| [05:11:00] | a1fa: | i did that |
| [05:11:00] | a1fa: | but that didnt fix it |
| [05:11:00] | a1fa: | <anholt> use the void driver for input? |
| [05:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | a1fa: feel free to look at my 2 example X configs if you want. I don't know specifically what is causing your problem, but I never run into it |
| [05:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/xorg.conf They are probably 99% identical to each other :) |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa: | guys |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa: | one more problem |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa: | i dont have any channels now |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa: | i erased them and re-did myth-setup |
| [05:13:00] | a1fa: | but the channel database never got filled |
| [05:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | and you reran mythfilldatabase after you did all of that ? |
| [05:14:00] | a1fa: | Your subscription expires on 02/08/2006 01:02:16 AM |
| [05:14:00] | a1fa: | sure did |
| [05:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | *shrug* I'd just verify the video source info, and that it's connected to one of the inputs on your card(input connections). wipe the programs and channels table and rerun mythfilldatabase |
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| [05:15:00] | rasto: | YEEESSS finnaly remote works :) |
| [05:16:00] | a1fa: | did that 3 times |
| [05:16:00] | a1fa: | Connecting to datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com|206.18.98.160|:80... connected. |
| [05:16:00] | a1fa: | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK |
| [05:16:00] | a1fa: | Length: unspecified [text/xml] |
| [05:16:00] | rasto: | a1fa: did you setup your cable provider at www.zap2it.com? |
| [05:18:00] | a1fa: | yup |
| [05:18:00] | a1fa: | new one |
| [05:19:00] | rasto: | then after you put username:password in mythsetup you should see that provider |
| [05:19:00] | rasto: | all you need to do afterwards is mythfilldatabase |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | 005-11–08 23:20:22.317 Fetching lineups from the Myth Plus service... |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | --23:20:22-- http://webservices.technovera.tmsdatadirect.c . . . /xtvdService |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | => `-' |
| [05:20:00] | a1fa: | what a hell? |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | i dont get it |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | --23:23:33-- http://webservices.technovera.tmsdatadirect.c . . . /xtvdService |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | => `-' |
| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | its trying to download from a different website |
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| [05:23:00] | a1fa: | what a hell |
| [05:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | tms = zap2it |
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| [05:24:00] | chaoticgeek: | no auto pm? |
| [05:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | chaoticgeek: Most people DON'T read the topic. Hence the auto message |
| [05:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | and even then they still don't seem to notice |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | omg |
| [05:25:00] | chaoticgeek: | well its annoying for people who can read |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | again |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | what a hell |
| [05:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | chaos: too bad |
| [05:25:00] | chaoticgeek: | ok, but I do have a question. |
| [05:25:00] | a1fa: | my password and everything is right |
| [05:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | a1fa: There is always a 401 at the first connection attempt. But it should try another and succeed |
| [05:25:00] | chaoticgeek: | Is mythtv an application, or is it more like something that takes over your desktop? |
| [05:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | An application. but if you don't run it as a window it will be fullscreen |
| [05:26:00] | chaoticgeek: | from all the screen shots I've seen it was like a complete gui like enviroment |
| [05:26:00] | chaoticgeek: | ok |
| [05:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can configure it to run in window'd" mode |
| [05:26:00] | Chutt: | it's meant to be the only visible thing running |
| [05:27:00] | chaoticgeek: | ok well thanks for your help guys/gals |
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| [05:28:00] | a1fa: | i still dont have any channels |
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| [05:29:00] | chaoticgeek: | I just thought about this |
| [05:29:00] | a1fa: | maybe it is cached up |
| [05:29:00] | a1fa: | how do i fcuk this |
| [05:30:00] | a1fa: | 23:30:05 (73.58 KB/s) – `-' saved [221953] |
| [05:30:00] | a1fa: | Your subscription expires on 02/08/2006 01:02:16 AM |
| [05:30:00] | a1fa: | but still no channels |
| [05:30:00] | a1fa: | omg.. this is killing me |
| [05:30:00] | chaoticgeek: | I assume some/all know something about TV tuner cards |
| [05:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | In general at least :) |
| [05:30:00] | chaoticgeek: | which brand names would you suggest? I currently have a WinTV-Go but I'm gonna build a new box |
| [05:31:00] | a1fa: | channls are back |
| [05:31:00] | a1fa: | after 50 times of filling the database |
| [05:31:00] | chaoticgeek: | and I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions because my knowladge is a little limited |
| [05:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | For Standard analog cable the favourites are the WinTV-PVR cards. 150/250/350/500's |
| [05:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 150's being the most economical |
| [05:31:00] | chaoticgeek: | ok |
| [05:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | They provide hardware compression lowering the required CPU |
| [05:32:00] | chaoticgeek: | I dont think I'm looking at the card being economical |
| [05:32:00] | chaoticgeek: | although it will not be just a pvr |
| [05:32:00] | chaoticgeek: | I wish to do my email/Websurfing, and I play consoles more so I would like to hook up my console to it and I belive I have that Figured out |
| [05:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ahh, well if you plan to play games through the capture card you will not find the PVR cards to be of much use |
| [05:33:00] | chaoticgeek: | I am looking at this Small form factor box to kinda hide it away and possibly go wireless desktop. |
| [05:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | they add a delay that will make playing a console useless |
| [05:34:00] | chaoticgeek: | ... |
| [05:34:00] | chaoticgeek: | See I'm in college and I dont want a large tv and I want a pvr |
| [05:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | My personally recommendation to people wanting a "pvr" that can also be used to play console systems is to get a PVR card that is used for all recording, and pop a cheap BTTV framegrabber in and configure myth to launch another app for use when playing games |
| [05:35:00] | chaoticgeek: | space for me is important |
| [05:36:00] | chaoticgeek: | ok whats a BTTV? |
| [05:36:00] | chaoticgeek: | nvm I'll go search |
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| [05:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's the driver used for most of the older capture cards that provide no hardware compression. |
| [05:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is no real delay getting/displaying the data or changing channels with them since there is no compression or real buffering going on |
| [05:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Unless you use the card as a recording source in myth, which will compress the data in software :) |
| [05:37:00] | chaoticgeek: | So when I pop my GC into my RCA vid in there is a lag? |
| [05:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you pump the video through myth yes. If you have myth spawn an external app(say xawtv or tvtime) to grab the video and just display it with no buffering then there wouldn't be |
| [05:39:00] | chaoticgeek: | oh |
| [05:39:00] | chaoticgeek: | So I just have to get an extrnal program? or another card? |
| [05:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Which is why I suggest a pvr card for handling recordings, and a framegrabber that myth knows nothing about for playing games |
| [05:40:00] | chaoticgeek: | ok I belive I follow you |
| [05:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can add an entry to myths menu to launch the external app to use the framegrabber for games and you wont have to worry about any lag or about myth wanting to use it to record something |
| [05:41:00] | chaoticgeek: | ok |
| [05:41:00] | chaoticgeek: | seems easy enough |
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| [05:42:00] | ** GreyFoxx looks at the clock and declares it sleep time ** | |
| [05:42:00] | chaoticgeek: | but I bet when I get this up I'll find out how to screw it up |
| [05:42:00] | a1fa: | i need to get bootsplash working now |
| [05:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | chaoticgeek: The mailing list and here are helpful for that :) |
| [05:43:00] | chaoticgeek: | ok |
| [05:43:00] | chaoticgeek: | well when I get it started I'll go get that |
| [05:43:00] | chaoticgeek: | just need to get the money around now. |
| [05:43:00] | ** GreyFoxx goes to crash ** | |
| [05:43:00] | chaoticgeek: | cya |
| [05:45:00] | chaoticgeek: | thanks for the help GreyFoxx |
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| [05:46:00] | Tanthrix: | What dependencies do I need to enable mythtv dvd playback? |
| [05:46:00] | Tanthrix: | Can't seem to find it anyway. |
| [05:47:00] | a1fa: | :) |
| [05:47:00] | a1fa: | ok |
| [05:47:00] | a1fa: | night guys |
| [05:47:00] | a1fa: | i need to getup at 6:45 |
| [05:47:00] | chaoticgeek: | cya |
| [05:47:00] | a1fa: | and let the cable guys |
| [05:47:00] | a1fa: | install cable at 7:15 |
| [05:47:00] | chaoticgeek: | I got a chem test tomorrow |
| [05:47:00] | chaoticgeek: | :( |
| [05:47:00] | a1fa: | i've scheduled a recording for 7PM tomorrow night |
| [05:47:00] | a1fa: | lost |
| [05:47:00] | a1fa: | or 8pm |
| [05:48:00] | a1fa: | night |
| [05:50:00] | Tanthrix: | WARNING: --disable-backend is only intended to aid porting. <---Do I need the backend for compliation if this is just going to be a front end box? |
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| [05:54:00] | chaoticgeek: | I hate the winTV application for windows |
| [05:54:00] | chaoticgeek: | sometimes it will automaticly start recording, sometimes it wont |
| [05:57:00] | phoner: | does that mythtv client for windows ever work on XP? |
| [05:58:00] | chaoticgeek: | never tried it |
| [05:58:00] | chaoticgeek: | I wanna get it though |
| [05:59:00] | phoner: | I've never seen it work on xp |
| [05:59:00] | chaoticgeek: | didnt even know it was on xp |
| [06:00:00] | chaoticgeek: | I'm torn on the tv tuner card I should get |
| [06:00:00] | phoner: | well apparently, it's not |
| [06:00:00] | chaoticgeek: | I could go w/ the wintv PVR500 for 2 tv inputs |
| [06:00:00] | phoner: | I've had mondo overheat probs with the pvr-250 |
| [06:01:00] | phoner: | heard the 500 is much cooler |
| [06:01:00] | chaoticgeek: | I was reading stuff like that on newegg |
| [06:01:00] | chaoticgeek: | I was also thinking of getting the 350 |
| [06:01:00] | phoner: | took me forever to realize it was that causing all the problems |
| [06:01:00] | phoner: | cause it only overheats during recording |
| [06:01:00] | phoner: | hehe |
| [06:02:00] | chaoticgeek: | the 500 is cheaper |
| [06:02:00] | phoner: | works fine with a heatsink/fan though |
| [06:03:00] | chaoticgeek: | maybe cuz it has no dvd decoder |
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| [06:15:00] | NightMonkey: | Better to use mythlink.sh and make a samba share – just click on the program to watch on Windows. |
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| [06:15:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [06:15:00] | NightMonkey: | WinMyth is quite buggy, in my experience. Plus all that .NET stuff, bleh. |
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| [06:17:00] | feld: | ok guys |
| [06:17:00] | feld: | i decided to play with SVN |
| [06:18:00] | feld: | its not worth the hassle with the custom setup i already have configured and scripted, and also none of the plugins worked it only showed livetv |
| [06:18:00] | feld: | err watchtv |
| [06:18:00] | feld: | so i killed it immediately and put on what i had before |
| [06:18:00] | phoner: | what does mythlink.sh do? |
| [06:19:00] | feld: | and now it says when trying to watch tv/view recordings that the protocol versions are different for the frontend and backend. this is frustrating.... |
| [06:19:00] | NightMonkey: | phoner: Makes human-readable symlinks to your recordings. |
| [06:19:00] | phoner: | oh ok |
| [06:19:00] | feld: | how do i fix the "protocol differences" |
| [06:19:00] | NightMonkey: | phoner: With show name, episode, date, and extension. |
| [06:20:00] | NightMonkey: | It is part of mythtv's contrib. |
| [06:20:00] | phoner: | hehe, current isn't readable enough for you? |
| [06:20:00] | NightMonkey: | phoner: Only when I put my implant into my brain. ;) |
| [06:21:00] | feld: | nevermind a reboot fixed it |
| [06:21:00] | feld: | AMEN |
| [06:21:00] | feld: | one of the few times where i've considered rebooting to fix a linux problem... i bet bringing down lo and eth0 woulda done it too....... |
| [06:21:00] | feld: | aight thx for listening lol |
| [06:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey feld |
| [06:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rebooting myth sometimes really does help |
| [06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its one of those things hehe |
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| [06:29:00] | phoner: | poeple need a reboot like every 24 hours or so |
| [06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I rarely reboot my mythbox or any other for that matter |
| [06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | unless its a kernel update or I make a major change |
| [06:30:00] | phoner: | less you hack yourself, using coke |
| [06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | such as when I switched from using nvidia for tvout to the pvr350 out |
| [06:34:00] | phoner: | what hardware does like, cable company pvrs use |
| [06:37:00] | xris: | phoner: dedicated stuff. |
| [06:37:00] | awesome: | anyone using dvb in australia? what are the channel frequencies? |
| [06:42:00] | linagee: | why does mythtv wait until recording stops to do user jobs? i'm using a pvr-250, there's plenty of CPU left to run jobs concurrently |
| [06:44:00] | linagee: | phoner: what does coke do? keep you awake? |
| [06:44:00] | phoner: | yea, don't need to sleep for weeks |
| [06:45:00] | phoner: | well, need maybe, but don't have ot |
| [06:49:00] | mstanisl_: | phoner: know a lot of people on coke? |
| [06:49:00] | phoner: | haha, only a few |
| [06:56:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | linagee: it doesn't wait except for jobs for the current recording in progress (since it doesn't queue the user jobs till the recording finishes) |
| [06:56:00] | linagee: | Captain_Murdoch: that's silly. why doesn't it do user jobs while recording? |
| [06:57:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | if the recording isn't finished, how can it run a job on that recording? |
| [06:57:00] | linagee: | Captain_Murdoch: the only reason i need it to schedule my job is that i want to start transcoding as SOON as it's done recording, not when i get around to executing my script. |
| [06:58:00] | linagee: | Captain_Murdoch: show A stops at 5pm. show B runs from 5pm to 6pm. user job for show A does not start until everything has stopped recording, after show B is done recording. |
| [06:58:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | you must have realtime comm flagging on and the max user jobs set to 1. |
| [07:00:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | it should run the jobs right away when the recording finishes unless you have a jobqueue time window setup or if you're hitting the max jobs limit you set. |
| [07:25:00] | Dagmar: | We should be able to class recording jobs as separate from transcoding/markup jobs |
| [07:26:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | what's the diff? |
| [07:27:00] | Dagmar: | With a PVR card recording jobs basically take up about 4% CPU |
| [07:27:00] | Dagmar: | ... so there's no real reason there can't be a niced transcode job going at hte same time |
| [07:27:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | what is a "recording job"? |
| [07:27:00] | Dagmar: | Instead it's assumed that recording jobs might conflict with other types of jobs |
| [07:27:00] | Dagmar: | When it's recording a show |
| [07:28:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | recordings have no effect on the jobqueue, they aren't run by the jobqueue, they actually schedule jobqueue jobs |
| [07:28:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | you can transcode while recording (just not the file you're recording). :) |
| [07:28:00] | Dagmar: | I was under the impression that they did, since I had to set the number of max jobs to 2 with my pvr-500 |
| [07:29:00] | Dagmar: | More messy vagueness in the docs I guesss |
| [07:31:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | if you use realtime flagging, that's a job. |
| [07:31:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | so submit a patch (to the docs). :) |
| [07:34:00] | Dagmar: | Captain_Murdoch: I think I'm probably doing a better job of rewriting it |
| [07:34:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | rewriting what? the docs? |
| [07:34:00] | Dagmar: | Captain_Murdoch: With any luck Dropline packages of everything will be complete and tested in another two weeks or so |
| [07:36:00] | Dagmar: | Captain_Murdoch: Yeah, people are bound to ask dumb questions about how it all works so they can tinker with it, so I don't really have much choice about writing docs |
| [07:36:00] | Dagmar: | I'm about 1/3-way through polishing and tightening the mysql package |
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| [09:11:00] | lotia: | any bash gurus on? |
| [09:14:00] | jasta: | ask your question if its appropriate. |
| [09:14:00] | Dagmar: | Ask |
| [09:14:00] | Dagmar: | Askity ask. I write way too much shell. |
| [09:18:00] | Dagmar: | Hmm... must not be a very pressing problem |
| [09:19:00] | dzen_: | so lotia |
| [09:19:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | he just wanted to know if there were |
| [09:19:00] | dzen_: | please describe your bash problem |
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| [09:36:00] | lotia: | sorry dzen_ |
| [09:36:00] | lotia: | i was concerned that people would think it was totally OT |
| [09:37:00] | lotia: | but since you've offered |
| [09:37:00] | dzen_: | OT ? |
| [09:37:00] | lotia: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/xbgvxn96.html |
| [09:37:00] | lotia: | off topic |
| [09:37:00] | lotia: | heres my script |
| [09:37:00] | lotia: | having problems with the arguments passed to grep on line 16 |
| [09:38:00] | Dagmar: | 404 |
| [09:38:00] | lotia: | Dagmar: nothing there? |
| [09:38:00] | dzen_: | mh |
| [09:38:00] | Dagmar: | Try and pull up when you just pasted |
| [09:38:00] | Dagmar: | s/when/what/ |
| [09:39:00] | lotia: | yeah works for me |
| [09:39:00] | Dagmar: | Clear your cache then. (shift-reload) |
| [09:39:00] | lotia: | did that |
| [09:39:00] | lotia: | anyway is there another pastebin you can recommend |
| [09:39:00] | dzen_: | It worrs for me |
| [09:39:00] | dzen_: | ^r^k |
| [09:40:00] | lotia: | so the following command /data2/tools/chunklink/chunklink.pl -NtcfiHh /data2/corpora/treebank/PARSED/MRG/WSJ/00/WSJ_0094.MRG | /clair4/class/nlp/hw3/clpp.pl 3 | grep "VB CC VB " has no issues when run from the command line. |
| [09:41:00] | lotia: | but $x and $y seem to be unhappy |
| [09:42:00] | dzen_: | try to grep '$x$y' |
| [09:43:00] | Dagmar: | Your for loop is cooked, dude. |
| [09:43:00] | lotia: | Dagmar: whats up with it? |
| [09:43:00] | Dagmar: | If you want to see what I'm talking about, in the inner loop just comment out what you have and add "echo $x" |
| [09:43:00] | Dagmar: | Then run it. |
| [09:43:00] | Dagmar: | Using those arguments to the for loop like that causes bash to collapse the extra whitespace. |
| [09:44:00] | Dagmar: | So instead of for x in "DT JJ NN " "DT NN IN NN " "DT NNP NN " "DT CD NN " you're getting "DT JJ NN " |
| [09:44:00] | lotia: | hmmm... |
| [09:45:00] | lotia: | how do i fix that |
| [09:46:00] | Dagmar: | Possibly store them in an array or two and just iterate through the array |
| [09:46:00] | lotia: | should i put echo $x in quotes? |
| [09:46:00] | Dagmar: | If I had the slightest idea what the heck you're actually trying to accomplish, I'm sure there would be an easier way to do it with awk or something |
| [09:47:00] | Dagmar: | It won't make any difference, dude. |
| [09:47:00] | Dagmar: | It's when the arguments are being read into x in the first place that the whitespace is being collapsed. |
| [09:48:00] | Dagmar: | I suggest you Google for "Advanced Bash Scripting HOWTO" and you can probably find some alternate technique that will work. |
| [09:49:00] | lotia: | Dagmar: spent most of last night poring through the abs, but to no avail |
| [09:49:00] | dzen_: | lotia: |
| [09:49:00] | dzen_: | dzen@tequila:/tmp$ x="toto" |
| [09:49:00] | dzen_: | dzen@tequila:/tmp$ echo $x |
| [09:49:00] | dzen_: | toto |
| [09:49:00] | dzen_: | dzen@tequila:/tmp$ echo '$x' |
| [09:49:00] | dzen_: | $x |
| [09:49:00] | dzen_: | just consider this little exemple |
| [09:49:00] | Dagmar: | lotia: Then store each of those things in a table, and iterate your loop over the array index |
| [09:50:00] | Dagmar: | lotia: That way you won't wind up with the implicit (hidden) read into X collapsing your whitespace |
| [09:50:00] | Dagmar: | ...or just use perl to begin with |
| [09:50:00] | lotia: | so put $x in a table? |
| [09:50:00] | Dagmar: | Umm... If I interpret what you're saying literally, then no. |
| [09:51:00] | Dagmar: | Put those strings you're searching for into two tables.. |
| [09:51:00] | Dagmar: | like $inner[0]='NNP '; and so on |
| [09:51:00] | Dagmar: | then you can iterate from 0 to whatever for both the inner and the outer loop, and call the values with ${inner[0]}${outer[0]} |
| [09:51:00] | lotia: | okay |
| [09:52:00] | Dagmar: | When you do a for loop, the arguments actually get read as if you were feeding them to a pipe and using read() to get them back |
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| [09:57:00] | lotia: | thanks, trying that |
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| [10:08:00] | lotia: | back to square 1 |
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| [11:14:00] | pookSter: | Good day all |
| [11:15:00] | dzen_: | good afternoon here |
| [11:18:00] | pookSter: | I stopped saying good morning heh, |
| [11:19:00] | pookSter: | where r u dzen? |
| [11:19:00] | dzen_: | from france |
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| [11:20:00] | pookSter: | We see in Canada here that u guys are dealing with lots of stuff over there. |
| [11:20:00] | pookSter: | Hope everything works out for u guys |
| [11:20:00] | dzen_: | so |
| [11:21:00] | dzen_: | about that, just take a look at 00:44 < dzen_> http://www.korrupted.info/CNN_Geography/CNN_Geography.jpg |
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| [11:22:00] | otwin: | lol |
| [11:22:00] | pookSter: | man thats messed up |
| [11:23:00] | dzen_: | :o |
| [11:24:00] | pookSter: | things starting to quiet down where you are? or did u have another bad night. Haven't watched the news yet |
| [11:24:00] | dzen_: | so, I'm not in a tall city |
| [11:25:00] | dzen_: | but, some friends are in paris suburbs, and so, they stay in their house |
| [11:25:00] | dzen_: | morover it is not a civil war |
| [11:26:00] | pookSter: | well, glad you are safe |
| [11:27:00] | pookSter: | have to get busy here...enjoy your day |
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| [11:51:00] | Dagmar: | You're in Paris? |
| [11:52:00] | Dagmar: | I've been getting the impression that the issues are because the gov't has been treating the projects people like so much gutter trash. Is this more or less accurate? |
| [11:58:00] | Dagmar: | I also got the impression that the main reason it's not civil war is that the protesters just want the interior minister out of there--they don't want to run things. |
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| [12:10:00] | dzen_: | Dagmar: sorry |
| [12:11:00] | dzen_: | the problem seems to be more complex |
| [12:13:00] | dzen_: | the rate of unemplyemnt is very hight in the suburbs |
| [12:13:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, and generally the reason that sort of thing happens is bad urban planning |
| [12:14:00] | dzen_: | the thought they 're forsaken by the system |
| [12:15:00] | Xenna: | In case nobody noticed, we have a religious war going on |
| [12:15:00] | Dagmar: | Really? Where? |
| [12:16:00] | otwin: | Xenna: that has absolutely nothing to do with what is going on in france! |
| [12:16:00] | Xenna: | Everywhere where there's mullims |
| [12:16:00] | Xenna: | mulsims |
| [12:16:00] | Dagmar: | What holy war is this? |
| [12:16:00] | Xenna: | geez i can't even type anymore |
| [12:16:00] | splAt1 is now known as splat1 | |
| [12:17:00] | Xenna: | Muslims all over Europe are getting more and more extremist |
| [12:17:00] | dzen_: | LOL |
| [12:17:00] | Xenna: | As a reaction the rest of the people become more and more suspicious |
| [12:17:00] | dzen_: | I think you're formated by the media :-) |
| [12:17:00] | Xenna: | Your classic vicious circle |
| [12:17:00] | otwin: | Xenna: Again – that may be true or not – but it has nothing to do with the problem in france |
| [12:18:00] | Xenna: | I have my doubts |
| [12:18:00] | Dagmar: | I'm still having a hard time seeing how that constitues a religious war |
| [12:18:00] | Xenna: | These suburbs are mostly muslim north African's right? |
| [12:18:00] | dzen_: | Xenna: It's not a religious problem, but a social wan |
| [12:18:00] | dzen_: | One |
| [12:18:00] | otwin: | Xenna: if you would live in a suburb of paris in an HLM and have those kids perspective you would go berserk as well |
| [12:18:00] | otwin: | sooner or later |
| [12:18:00] | Dagmar: | dzen_: Hey, better this happens now than later, when it will be worse |
| [12:19:00] | Xenna: | I might, but that doesn't make it better does it? |
| [12:19:00] | otwin: | but it has nothing to do with religion |
| [12:19:00] | Xenna: | I agree that its a social problem |
| [12:19:00] | Dagmar: | otwin: There's a *lot* of places in the US like that, which I suspect has something to do with CNN basically sitting on the story for over a week |
| [12:20:00] | dzen_: | In the suburbs all teens are |
| [12:20:00] | Xenna: | But if you import millions of people with a very different culture and make them a new underclass you're going to have problems |
| [12:20:00] | dzen_: | getring borred |
| [12:20:00] | Dagmar: | We just got done basically abandoning an entire city to floods and famine, and then shipped those digruntled people all over the US to make sure they can tell the most people about what happened. :/ |
| [12:20:00] | Xenna: | If these millions are also relatively homogenous and of a different similar religion it will probably turn into a religious war |
| [12:21:00] | Dagmar: | Xenna: Doubtful. |
| [12:21:00] | Xenna: | But in the US religion doesn't play in these conflicts |
| [12:21:00] | Dagmar: | Xenna: That is only true in the case where both parties view everything primarily from the standpoint of religion. |
| [12:21:00] | Dagmar: | In the US we're mainly agnostics or non-practicing christians of various denominations. |
| [12:21:00] | otwin: | Dagmar: it is not only a suburb with poor people – you have to see a suburb of a french city – it's unbelievable what they were thinking when planning that in the 60's |
| [12:21:00] | Xenna: | You have many S-American immigrants but there's no real religious tension there |
| [12:22:00] | Dagmar: | We view things based on social status, or if we're less educated, race or sex. |
| [12:22:00] | Dagmar: | s'why you saw some people saying "George Bush doesn't care about black people" and others saying "George Bush doesn't care about poor people". |
| [12:22:00] | Xenna: | Dagmar: You do, but what if you'd have 20 million muslim immigrants that *do* view things mainly on a religious basis |
| [12:23:00] | Xenna: | That's the problem in Europe |
| [12:23:00] | Dagmar: | Xenna: then you have a bunch of people who will heed a fatwa |
| [12:23:00] | otwin: | Xenna: does your nick stand for xenophobe? |
| [12:23:00] | Dagmar: | PROVIDED that they actually see it as a religious issue. |
| [12:23:00] | laga: | otwin: rotfl |
| [12:23:00] | ** dzen_ is reading and he learns vocabulary ** | |
| [12:23:00] | Xenna: | It's the reverse of Annex |
| [12:24:00] | Dagmar: | Even zealots are less likely to asses things from the standpoint of religion when the issue isn't one of religion. |
| [12:24:00] | Xenna: | I'm actually primarily anti-religious |
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| [12:24:00] | Xenna: | That's a very idealist POV dDagmar, but the reality is different |
| [12:24:00] | dzen_: | Xenna: keep in mind that a lot of personn can't survive without belivin' something |
| [12:25:00] | Dagmar: | Xenna: Actually, no. I'm just used to guessing what crowds are going to do. |
| [12:25:00] | Xenna: | At the University where I work, there are a lot of students from Maroccon origin, many girls |
| [12:25:00] | Dagmar: | for example, I'll bet music genres like Punk are pretty big in the french suburbs |
| [12:25:00] | laga: | Dagmar: don't think so. i believe it's more rap/hiphop. |
| [12:25:00] | laga: | Dagmar: because those are ghettos |
| [12:25:00] | Xenna: | Since 9/11 they've started wearing headscarfs in great numbers |
| [12:26:00] | Xenna: | Wasn't that way before. |
| [12:26:00] | dzen_: | Dagmar: false. there is a lot's of rap / r'n b |
| [12:26:00] | Xenna: | Now why do you suppose that happened? |
| [12:26:00] | otwin: | Xenna: you're talking bullshit |
| [12:26:00] | Dagmar: | Because bad economic times bring out angry music. |
| [12:26:00] | Xenna: | Because they're mixing up politics with religion perhaps? |
| [12:26:00] | Dagmar: | Very simple.. |
| [12:26:00] | juski: | it's a big mess, and the big problem is nobody's right, but everyone *thinks* they are |
| [12:26:00] | Xenna: | otwin: Very nice! |
| [12:27:00] | Dagmar: | that it's rap instead of punk is somewhat telling. Punk tends to be pissed off about almost everything. Rap tends to be pissed off about gov'ts specifically (aside from petty interpersonals) |
| [12:27:00] | Xenna: | When I was punk we were just bored ;) |
| [12:27:00] | Dagmar: | yeah, unhappy but no specific cause you could identify. |
| [12:28:00] | Xenna: | Who isn't unhappy when he's 16? |
| [12:28:00] | juski: | Rap is mostly ragging on about yo ho's and yo bling.. there's actually VERY little substance in most hip hop & rap these days. Public Enemy etc are long gone |
| [12:28:00] | dzen_: | Dagmar: just take the exemple of an old rap singer "NTM" for "nike ta mere" (e.g. fuck your mother in french) and always sing "fuck the police" |
| [12:28:00] | dzen_: | everywhere |
| [12:28:00] | otwin: | Xenna: people don't wear headscarfs because of 9/11 – if the number has increased then because the french gvt. has forbidden to wear them in schools |
| [12:29:00] | Dagmar: | dzen_: Bingo. |
| [12:29:00] | Dagmar: | juski: There's a difference between what people listen to and what gets played on the radio and TV. |
| [12:29:00] | Xenna: | otwin: I'm talking about my own university (in Holland) we don't have such laws |
| [12:29:00] | otwin: | Xenna: ok – i was still talking of france |
| [12:30:00] | juski: | Dagmar: LOL |
| [12:30:00] | Dagmar: | juski: I'm serious. |
| [12:30:00] | Xenna: | I'm assuming that France & Holland are somewhat similar, but I may be wrong |
| [12:30:00] | laga: | Dagmar: dude. those people dont look like punks. |
| [12:30:00] | laga: | Dagmar: they look like your typical ghetto rap kid :) |
| [12:30:00] | Dagmar: | juski: At one time "alternative" music actually had more to do with the subject matter of the songs, rather than "bottom 100 of the top 500" that marketing execs slowly twisted it into. |
| [12:31:00] | Xenna: | I've been in these suburbs a while ago and – believe it or not – I believe there were less scarfs than in Rotterdam :( |
| [12:31:00] | Dagmar: | laga: Yeah, but there are subdivisions even in there. |
| [12:31:00] | Dagmar: | Like a few years back I moved from Nashville to San Francisco. It was really hard at first figuring out who was packing and who wasn't, becasue I was used to being able to spot out who was into what from Nashville. |
| [12:32:00] | Dagmar: | What it amounts to was that the dangerous gun toting types in Nashville just happened to dress like "Joe Average" in the bay area. |
| [12:32:00] | Dagmar: | After about four months I got back into the hang of spotting whether someone was just extremely urban, or really a gun toting bastard or a crack dealer |
| [12:33:00] | Xenna: | Dagmar: Gee, it's a jungle ou there ;) |
| [12:33:00] | Dagmar: | On the "outside" it's real easy to make the mistake of thinking that an entire group of people is like only one fragment of that culture happens to be |
| [12:33:00] | Dagmar: | Xenna: I made regular trips to Oakland. You gotta be on your toes over there. |
| [12:34:00] | Xenna: | scary |
| [12:35:00] | juski: | Come over to the UK.. see how long you nerves can take being dropped in the middle of some of our suburbs |
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| [12:35:00] | Dagmar: | juski: It'd probably take me about four months to get the swing of things |
| [12:35:00] | Dagmar: | Actually probably less than that |
| [12:36:00] | Dagmar: | The trick is not getting shot while you figure out who is who. ;) |
| [12:36:00] | juski: | or stabbed |
| [12:36:00] | Dagmar: | Ah I got lots of leather |
| [12:37:00] | Xenna: | I think I'm going to save for a nice house in a gated community ;) |
| [12:37:00] | juski: | there's a lot of hatred about over here, and some of it ain't helped by the local authorities who claim 'equality for all' yet some people are forced to make more concessions than others. PC-ness gone mad is probably making it all worse :( |
| [12:38:00] | Dagmar: | Just remember that in any stick social situation, beer is a universal lubricant. ;) |
| [12:38:00] | juski: | unless they're devout non-drinkers |
| [12:38:00] | juski: | ;) |
| [12:38:00] | Dagmar: | juski: That falls into sXe kids and cathloics alone, I think. ;) |
| [12:39:00] | juski: | erm.. nope |
| [12:39:00] | Dagmar: | Neither are all that likely to be a danger in a street fight. |
| [12:39:00] | juski: | ok.. maybe the recent riots in birmingham didn't make it onto US news then... |
| [12:40:00] | Dagmar: | Really? They had some there? |
| [12:40:00] | Xenna: | They made it here |
| [12:40:00] | laga: | there have been riots in other parts of the world as well, but i forgot where :) |
| [12:40:00] | Xenna: | between asians and black I believer |
| [12:41:00] | juski: | and the situation near where I live is pretty edgy, even now |
| [12:41:00] | Xenna: | The closer they get the more you notice them |
| [12:42:00] | juski: | living in walled communities isn't the answer either |
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| [12:43:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, rioters seem to like burning walled communities. |
| [12:43:00] | Xenna: | Not for the country, but it may help you as an individual to not live in a tense neighbourhood |
| [12:43:00] | Xenna: | No, in France they burned the cars in their own neighbourhoods |
| [12:43:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, but if everyone in your neighborhood knows you, it can be tense and you'll still be somewhat okay |
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| [12:44:00] | Xenna: | It's not like they went to fight rich people |
| [12:44:00] | Dagmar: | That's disassociation for you |
| [12:44:00] | Dagmar: | Everyone holing up and basically living in a building full of strangers |
| [12:45:00] | Xenna: | I dunno, I'd prefer my future kid to grow up in a safe place |
| [12:45:00] | laga: | http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-11/09/content_3756065.htm <- "France's rioting seemed to calm down a bit..." |
| [12:45:00] | juski: | that's ghettoism for you more likee. |
| [12:46:00] | Xenna: | It is |
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| [12:47:00] | juski: | we're supposed to be 'multicultural' here in the UK.. that's a load of rubbish! We have area X for 'them', area Y for some others... never the twain shall meet.. how is that *integration*? |
| [12:47:00] | Xenna: | It isn't |
| [12:47:00] | juski: | exactly! |
| [12:47:00] | Xenna: | But that's the same everywhere |
| [12:47:00] | Dagmar: | juski: Ya'll just need to get out more |
| [12:48:00] | juski: | easy for you to say Dagmar |
| [12:48:00] | Xenna: | Mind you, there are lots of immigrants in Holland that *do* integrate well |
| [12:48:00] | Dagmar: | juski: One thing I noticed is that there wasn't a whole lot of racism in San Fran. On any given bus there wouldn't be all that many people of any one color, so the odds were that any minority someone might want to pick on could outnumber you after the next two stops |
| [12:48:00] | Xenna: | Indonesians, many Chinese, Surinam people |
| [12:49:00] | Xenna: | Dagmar: Numbers are important |
| [12:50:00] | Xenna: | If the numbers of one 'type' get to large they tend to start clustering together |
| [12:50:00] | Xenna: | And reinforce there differentness |
| [12:51:00] | juski: | I'd sooner live in San Fran than Manchester, for sure |
| [12:52:00] | Dagmar: | I like chicks with a british accent |
| [12:52:00] | Dagmar: | ...and it would be nice to see Dr. Who without having to get a torrent of it |
| [12:52:00] | juski: | lol |
| [12:52:00] | zoi: | some mp3's are recognized as mono with mythmusic, even though they are stereo cbr. |
| [12:53:00] | juski: | final word I'll say about all this mess.. I've always blamed politicians.. they're only ever in it for themselves – end of story |
| [12:53:00] | Dagmar: | juski: Yeah, they're generally to blame |
| [12:56:00] | juski: | enough setting the world to rights (heh.. if only!).. back to worksi |
| [12:59:00] | jemarcks__: | how do i enable the ftp server on my htpc? When i access it from outside it says 'connection refused'. |
| [13:00:00] | Xenna: | That's a big plus of living in Holland, we get BBC1 & 2 live ;) |
| [13:01:00] | Xenna: | HHey juski, how about you put a PVR 150 in your box so I can stream all UK channels |
| [13:02:00] | Xenna: | Maybe that's a nice new application for Myth bittorrent like P2P streaming |
| [13:02:00] | Dagmar: | HEh |
| [13:02:00] | Dagmar: | Now THAT is a political bomb waiting to go off |
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| [13:03:00] | Xenna: | Well, I think it will happen at some point |
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| [13:04:00] | Xenna: | There are already places where you can buy streams of subscriber channels like HBO http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/5002/p2p_stream.html |
| [13:04:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, but let's not mention it too much while the project can easily be sued into oblivion |
| [13:05:00] | Xenna: | The legal uses are interesting enough to keep me occupied for a while |
| [13:05:00] | Dagmar: | I'm one of the people who actually showed up for council meetings in my area to make very sure that things like MythTV weren't made illegal all around |
| [13:05:00] | Xenna: | Thanks Dag |
| [13:05:00] | Dagmar: | Believe me, the media's biatch lawyers would just LOVE an excuse to push for making digital recordings in general illegal |
| [13:06:00] | Xenna: | Still I suspect MS' voice must've been a bit more powerful |
| [13:07:00] | Dagmar: | Doubtful |
| [13:07:00] | Dagmar: | They didn't even have anyone in Tennessee to speak on behalf of the supreDMCA |
| [13:07:00] | Dagmar: | er Super-DMCA. |
| [13:07:00] | Dagmar: | The RIAA did tho. Some lawyer from Pennsylvania. |
| [13:07:00] | Dagmar: | it was pretty obvious he had bribed the committee chairman, Senator Person. |
| [13:07:00] | Dagmar: | (thats really his name) |
| [13:08:00] | Dagmar: | They were trying to make doing anything for yourself that your provider (of telephone, TV, or IP network) offers as a service, a *felony* |
| [13:08:00] | laga: | idiots :) |
| [13:08:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, but it goes to show you just how grabby the lawyers are. |
| [13:09:00] | Dagmar: | We gotta promote and develop really *compelling* legitimate uses of the technology, or lawsuits are likely to happen |
| [13:10:00] | Xenna: | I don't know about the US, but there's lots of HD (harddisk) DVDrecorders selling in the stores |
| [13:10:00] | Xenna: | you have the tivo and such |
| [13:10:00] | Dagmar: | Hah |
| [13:10:00] | Xenna: | were they going to outlaw all that? |
| [13:10:00] | Dagmar: | Tivo and ReplayTV have been sued so many times it's not even funny. |
| [13:10:00] | Dagmar: | ReplayTV is basically out of business as a result |
| [13:10:00] | Xenna: | If PVR's are made illegal only Linux will have PVR's |
| [13:11:00] | Xenna: | \Finally the killer-app! |
| [13:11:00] | Dagmar: | Astonishingly enough, most ReplayTV units actually got shipped with the "Commercial Skip" feature _disabled_ because of the result of a lawsuit |
| [13:11:00] | Dagmar: | The only way you'd get it back is when you subscribed to the listing service, it would download an update that was cunningly called a "Chapter Mark Search" |
| [13:12:00] | Xenna: | I can imagine commercial companies are scared of commercial skipping features |
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| [13:12:00] | Xenna: | There are no ReplayTV or Tivo boxes for sale in Holland |
| [13:13:00] | Dagmar: | If they wouldn't bombard us with such hideous messages they would find people less interested in skipping commercials. |
| [13:13:00] | Xenna: | So Myth and other PC based stuff are the only option already |
| [13:13:00] | Dagmar: | Instead, when a commercial comes on, they do their best to make you feel like your life is a mess because you don't have their product, and they jack the volume up by as much as 30% so you'll hear them if you wander into the next room |
| [13:14:00] | Xenna: | Dagmar: I suspect commercials will start being embedded in the programming in even more obnoxious ways |
| [13:14:00] | Xenna: | Like a little PIP commercial screen inside the regular programming |
| [13:15:00] | Dagmar: | I give it a year before TiVo is forced to provide a mechanism for cable providers to display commercials in the corner of the screen when users view the programing guide |
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| [13:16:00] | kahuna_: | Hello gentlemen. |
| [13:17:00] | Dagmar: | Xenna: I'm *hoping* to find some magical settings that will let me set the playback speed of live TV to about 8% or so slower than normal, and then enable automatic commercial skipping on Live TV. |
| [13:17:00] | Dagmar: | I figure it's only fair, since the big broadcasters are now using frame drop to squeeze in more commercial spots |
| [13:18:00] | juski: | little fact: Sky TV in the UK have filed a patent to show viewers adverts while they skip commercials :( |
| [13:18:00] | Xenna: | dagmar: Just drink a lot and go to the loo, that should do it. |
| [13:18:00] | Dagmar: | Hopefully they will be greedy and fail to get anyone to licence it, and sue those who do |
| [13:19:00] | Dagmar: | Xenna: Then I'd have the TV getting loud during commercials again. That's another thing I'm going to try to eliminate |
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| [13:19:00] | Dagmar: | There's got to be a way to do compression on the audio in realtime |
| [13:19:00] | juski: | yeh there is.. plenty of mp3 players can do it |
| [13:20:00] | Xenna: | there's a slowdown feature on myth, right? |
| [13:20:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah |
| [13:20:00] | Xenna: | It's on the OSD |
| [13:20:00] | juski: | timecompression & timestretch :D |
| [13:20:00] | Dagmar: | You can set the playback speed to a whole range of fractional rates |
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| [13:29:00] | juski: | Dagmar: it might be possible with libdsp.. realtime normalisation or dynamic compression ;) |
| [13:30:00] | juski: | LADSPA could provide some useful stuff in that regard too |
| [13:31:00] | a1fa: | u guys are lucky |
| [13:31:00] | a1fa: | i need to go take my car to the service |
| [13:31:00] | a1fa: | 60miles away from here |
| [13:31:00] | a1fa: | drive 60miles back |
| [13:31:00] | a1fa: | and then drive 60miles again |
| [13:31:00] | dev-: | you live in a third world country? |
| [13:31:00] | juski: | the walk might do you good :) |
| [13:31:00] | Xenna: | sounds like fun |
| [13:32:00] | laga: | might take your mind off counterstrike ;) |
| [13:33:00] | dev-: | in arizona you should be able to find another dealership closer than 60miles... sorry but that sounds like bs heh |
| [13:34:00] | juski: | hi laga.. how's it going? |
| [13:35:00] | laga: | juski: pretty fine, and for you? |
| [13:35:00] | juski: | yeh pretty good thanks |
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| [13:35:00] | kahuna_: | Anyone else in here have a flickering OSD with bobdeint? |
| [13:35:00] | laga: | juski: nice :). have you heard anything from coume lately? |
| [13:35:00] | laga: | kahuna_: yep. |
| [13:35:00] | kahuna_: | Good, then I'm not the only one :) |
| [13:36:00] | kahuna_: | I just use kernel. |
| [13:36:00] | juski: | laga: not since he banned that use on oct29th |
| [13:36:00] | juski: | *user |
| [13:36:00] | laga: | juski: well, at least he's still alive :). how is it going on mythtvtalk.com? |
| [13:37:00] | juski: | there's a guy after my mantle I think.. lol |
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| [13:37:00] | juski: | I still dip in, trying to avoid the daft questions |
| [13:38:00] | laga: | hehe. me too. sometimes, i just cannot bear it, but it's ok usually |
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| [13:38:00] | dev-: | "does mythtv support xxx tv tuner?!?" |
| [13:38:00] | dev-: | "go sit on a plunger you dumb fuck" |
| [13:38:00] | laga: | dev-: hahahaha |
| [13:38:00] | juski: | over 1000 posts now.. I need to get a life |
| [13:39:00] | juski: | dev: roffles :D |
| [13:39:00] | laga: | 737 postings, 58.77% of all |
| [13:40:00] | juski: | this dbox code is gonna attract a lot of people in the UK tto mythtv.. I expect having to mod quite a lot in the near future |
| [13:40:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [13:40:00] | dzen_: | dev-: I don't understand your quote |
| [13:40:00] | laga: | same for germany, i think – lots of people are using the dbox |
| [13:41:00] | juski: | the uk dbox image builders have changed the http engine so the EPG grabbing will be broken.. hahahaha |
| [13:41:00] | laga: | jshehehe. |
| [13:41:00] | juski: | well they changed it, which WILL break the EPG grabbing |
| [13:42:00] | laga: | juski: complain to them |
| [13:42:00] | juski: | I tried. they yelled lots |
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| [13:42:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [13:42:00] | juski: | their 'releases' are all built from cvs.. so no telling how buggy anything is |
| [13:43:00] | laga: | why don't you use yadi/yadd images? |
| [13:43:00] | juski: | ermm.. there aren't any english ones I think |
| [13:43:00] | laga: | i believe you can change the language. |
| [13:44:00] | juski: | yeh? I'll look into it |
| [13:45:00] | juski: | in the meantime I'm gonna do the old fashioned thing & use a capture card, then do a channel change script using a http request ;) |
| [13:46:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [13:46:00] | juski: | frickin 10mb ethernet port.. |
| [13:46:00] | laga: | yep, that sucks |
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| [13:47:00] | Xenna: | Are you talking about the Nokia dbox? |
| [13:48:00] | juski: | or sagem dbox.. |
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| [13:50:00] | bioart: | Hey guys, where's the link for mythtv-stream? |
| [13:50:00] | bioart: | or whatever the actual name is... |
| [13:50:00] | Krazylegz: | Mythstream. |
| [13:50:00] | Krazylegz: | http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html Methinks. |
| [13:50:00] | bioart: | easy enough once you have the right name, thanks! |
| [13:51:00] | bioart: | perfect, thanks again |
| [13:51:00] | Krazylegz: | You're welcome. |
| [13:51:00] | dev-: | hehe yeah when i reinstalled mythweb i had a little trouble finding that :) |
| [13:51:00] | dev-: | kept thinking it was mythtvstream |
| [13:52:00] | laga: | there's a difference between mythstreamtv and mythstream :) |
| [13:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, now I realize which one were you looking for? |
| [13:53:00] | bioart: | Yeah, as I'm looking at the page, I'm looking for the mythweb one |
| [13:53:00] | Krazylegz: | The one that streams Internet radio/video to your Mythbox, or the one that streams your recordings over the Internet via vlc? |
| [13:53:00] | Krazylegz: | http://mythstreamtv.sourceforge.net/ is what you want. |
| [13:53:00] | bioart: | mythstreamtv it is... |
| [13:53:00] | bioart: | thanks |
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| [13:57:00] | Xenna: | Good another videobox function I don't need anymore |
| [13:57:00] | dzen_: | so |
| [13:58:00] | dzen_: | maybe You don't need an X ? |
| [13:58:00] | dzen_: | maybe you don't need a gsm ? |
| [13:59:00] | Xenna: | maybe not but I was hoping Myth would replavce my videobox fully |
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| [14:00:00] | juski: | what is a 'videobox' ? |
| [14:00:00] | Xenna: | http://videobox.sourceforge.net/ |
| [14:01:00] | otwin: | IIRC you can get a linux server for the slimp device, no? |
| [14:02:00] | Xenna: | Yes the slimserver is written in Perl |
| [14:02:00] | Xenna: | I run it on my old Linux server |
| [14:02:00] | Xenna: | I'm currently setting up the new one with mythtv as the media server |
| [14:02:00] | Xenna: | I'll keep the slims stuff for th emusic |
| [14:02:00] | otwin: | so what do you use videobox for? |
| [14:03:00] | Xenna: | For watching downloaded movies and streaming video |
| [14:03:00] | juski: | so the squeezebox thing just becomes a fancy IR receiver |
| [14:03:00] | Xenna: | You got it |
| [14:03:00] | otwin: | aah it does video too |
| [14:03:00] | Xenna: | I plan to write a plugin for the slimserver to connect it with mythtv |
| [14:03:00] | otwin: | that would be nice |
| [14:04:00] | juski: | should be easy enough in theory |
| [14:04:00] | Xenna: | So I can control my mythbox with the slimp/squeezebox remotes |
| [14:04:00] | Xenna: | That's not difficult yto do I think |
| [14:04:00] | juski: | but the squeezebox doesn't actually output video itself does it? |
| [14:04:00] | otwin: | no |
| [14:04:00] | Xenna: | I already did it (ages ago) with my fisrt freevo install |
| [14:05:00] | Xenna: | juski: no, the video is generated by the videobox player on a windows PC |
| [14:05:00] | Xenna: | the Video-out of the windows pC goes to the TV |
| [14:05:00] | juski: | I remember seeing the slashdot article for that.. "**play back VIDEO from your squeezebox**".. 'alll' you need is a PC with TV output..err hang on a sec... |
| [14:06:00] | Xenna: | Yep that was the article ;) |
| [14:06:00] | Xenna: | The title is somewhat misleading |
| [14:06:00] | juski: | somewhat... slahdot in fashion, yes |
| [14:06:00] | Xenna: | But it sort of describes what it looks like |
| [14:06:00] | Xenna: | Well, I made the headline so you can blame me ;) |
| [14:07:00] | juski: | heh |
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| [14:08:00] | Xenna: | I'm the author of videobox |
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| [14:13:00] | Xenna: | But it has no livetv or recording capabilties so I'd rather switch to myth at th emoment |
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| [14:29:00] | toom: | hi |
| [14:30:00] | Xenna: | hi |
| [14:30:00] | toom: | just wondering, is it possible to setup a pc with a tvcard to stream the tv program to the lan? |
| [14:31:00] | Xenna: | yes |
| [14:31:00] | toom: | what cpu does that need? |
| [14:31:00] | Xenna: | dunno |
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| [14:32:00] | toom: | did you do it, Xenna? |
| [14:32:00] | Xenna: | no, a colleague of mine did it |
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| [14:32:00] | Xenna: | he lives in holland and his sister lives in london |
| [14:32:00] | Xenna: | she watches dutch tv that way |
| [14:32:00] | toom: | wow |
| [14:32:00] | toom: | i was thinking of 'nice' quality :) |
| [14:33:00] | Xenna: | it's perrty cool |
| [14:33:00] | Xenna: | watching tv on a wifi laptop works as well |
| [14:33:00] | toom: | do you know what software he's using? |
| [14:33:00] | Xenna: | he users videlan player and videolan client |
| [14:34:00] | Xenna: | but there's also a myth plugin that should do this |
| [14:34:00] | toom: | freeware. sounds good |
| [14:35:00] | toom: | hm, i hope i've got some cpu power left from receiving digital signal rather than analog, which should be easier to handle |
| [14:37:00] | toom: | 6 to 9 Mbit/s for a DVD. |
| [14:37:00] | toom: | yeah :) |
| [14:45:00] | toom: | you mean this for mythtv: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html ? |
| [14:46:00] | Xenna: | yeah mythstream is the plugin i meant |
| [14:46:00] | dev-: | watching tv on a wifi laptop works, as long as you're not useing b |
| [14:46:00] | dev-: | all depends on your bitrates |
| [14:46:00] | toom: | b? |
| [14:47:00] | dev-: | i use 6500/8000 and cant stream on 802.11b |
| [14:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythstream and mythstreamtv are two different plugins |
| [14:47:00] | toom: | ah, that b :) |
| [14:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | just be sure which you are installing |
| [14:47:00] | toom: | which is the 'good' one? |
| [14:47:00] | dev-: | upgraded to g and tv works fine |
| [14:48:00] | dev-: | a/g can handle it |
| [14:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | They have different purposes |
| [14:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythstream is for streaming net based audio |
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| [14:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythstreamtv is for streaming out your recordings via vlc |
| [14:48:00] | toom: | aha, so there's no 'live' streaming? |
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| [14:48:00] | dev-: | toom: there is, manually, on commandline |
| [14:49:00] | dev-: | attaching to /dev/video0 with vlc |
| [14:49:00] | toom: | ok |
| [14:49:00] | dev-: | all mythstreamtv does is run vlc |
| [14:49:00] | dev-: | its a collection of shell/php scripts |
| [14:49:00] | dev-: | thats all |
| [14:49:00] | dev-: | hehe |
| [14:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not that I'm aware of. I stream livetv manually with vlc and ashellscrip + channel changing app |
| [14:49:00] | toom: | so i need the videolan stuff anyway, right? |
| [14:49:00] | dev-: | mythstreamtv tells you the requirrements (depends) yeah, you'll need vlc |
| [14:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you want mythstreamtv you do |
| [14:49:00] | dev-: | you'll need it compiled with httpd support etc, few other things you'll need |
| [14:49:00] | dev-: | its all in the docs |
| [14:50:00] | toom: | excellent, going to be an exciting weekend ;) |
| [14:50:00] | dev-: | hah the readme isnt that big! |
| [14:50:00] | dev-: | like a page ;) |
| [14:50:00] | toom: | well, my tvcard is arriving tomorrow, hopefully |
| [14:50:00] | dev-: | oh oh |
| [14:50:00] | dev-: | nice. |
| [14:50:00] | toom: | nothing's setup yet |
| [14:51:00] | dev-: | in that case, yeah, it will be an exciting weekend :) |
| [14:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | I used mythstreamtv for a couple weeks, but eventually I just started using a couple perl script wrappers for launching it with livetv , recordings or other compressed (xvid) content |
| [14:51:00] | dev-: | what os are you going to use? |
| [14:51:00] | toom: | since the harddrive arrives as well, there's not even an operating system setup :) |
| [14:51:00] | toom: | it's going to be gentoo, i guess |
| [14:51:00] | toom: | (most pain) |
| [14:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | I stream it to my desktop at work, and setup a vlc instance there to bounc it off to coworkers in the office |
| [14:51:00] | dev-: | works well on gentoo |
| [14:51:00] | dev-: | GreyFoxx: i did the same exact thing |
| [14:51:00] | dev-: | hehe |
| [14:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | 1 stream in feeding 10+ people heh |
| [14:52:00] | dev-: | though it was annoying in the same room, with it being slightly out of sync on each |
| [14:52:00] | toom: | GreyFoxx: i'll have that in mind |
| [14:52:00] | dev-: | we could never get it working right, tried changing prebuffer sizes etc, but audio would still be slightly out of sync. like the old row-row-row-your-boat thing |
| [14:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | dev-: My main rule was that anyone listening must either be in their own closed office or use a headset for just that reason |
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| [14:52:00] | dev-: | that works :) |
| [14:53:00] | dev-: | 09:53:16 up 50 days, 16:31, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00 |
| [14:53:00] | toom: | is that while streaming? :) |
| [14:53:00] | dev-: | no thats how long myths been up without crashing |
| [14:53:00] | toom: | will an athlon800 be ok for that? |
| [14:54:00] | dev-: | Sep19 4:52 |
| [14:54:00] | dev-: | mythbackened process |
| [14:54:00] | dev-: | hehe |
| [14:54:00] | dev-: | toom: hrm.. maybe not vlc.. |
| [14:54:00] | toom: | doh |
| [14:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | I update to SVN every couple days so my process uptime is rarely more than a week :) |
| [14:54:00] | dev-: | i use an xp3200 as my backened, vlc takes up 100% cpu and livetv will skip if i decide to watch while streaming (living room is mythbackend/frontend same box) |
| [14:54:00] | ivor: | BTW, anyone seen geckofiend recently? is he on vacation? |
| [14:55:00] | dev-: | GreyFoxx: hehe werd |
| [14:55:00] | dev-: | i was real curious about how long myth would stay up for, reliability. i kept having to do hardware swaps, then moved it, then blah blah. this is the longest ive had it online. |
| [14:55:00] | dev-: | mythfrontend gets bloated though |
| [14:55:00] | dev-: | its got some kind of leak |
| [14:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | The backend I stream from is a xp2500, but I don't have any problems playing streams to my frontends while it's happenning |
| [14:55:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [14:55:00] | toom: | i hope i can get more power out of that thing by building my own packages but it'll probably not make a huge difference.. |
| [14:56:00] | dev-: | if you split the backend/frontend you'll get alot more bang for your buck |
| [14:56:00] | dev-: | but then thats 2 boxes |
| [14:57:00] | dev-: | ive got 1 frontendonly, 1 frontend/slavebackend, 1 frontend/masterbackend |
| [14:57:00] | dev-: | 3 tuners total, 2 in master backend, 1 in slavebackend |
| [14:57:00] | toom: | i'm confused |
| [14:58:00] | dev-: | masterbackened is xp3200, 512meg ddr400, 300gig sata, 2 pvr250's, do on-the-fly-commercial-flagging on all |
| [14:58:00] | dev-: | works well |
| [14:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | toom: By what ? |
| [14:59:00] | toom: | all that back and frontends |
| [14:59:00] | dev-: | toom: mythtv is broken in mythbackened and mythfrontend |
| [14:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | the backend process talks to the capture cards and handles recording/scheduling |
| [14:59:00] | dev-: | +up into |
| [14:59:00] | toom: | i couldn't even tell how may of these i am going to have :) |
| [14:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | the frontend streams the recording from the backend |
| [14:59:00] | dev-: | you can run both on the same machine, just requires a more powerful machine |
| [14:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Most people have a single frontend/backend box. Some split it out for various reasons |
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| [15:00:00] | toom: | i have 1 box |
| [15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | What kind of processor ? |
| [15:00:00] | toom: | athlon800 |
| [15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | What kind of capture card ? |
| [15:00:00] | dev-: | GreyFoxx: you type as fast as i do |
| [15:00:00] | dev-: | :) |
| [15:01:00] | toom: | divico hdtv something.. |
| [15:01:00] | dev-: | oooh, hdtv |
| [15:01:00] | Sungrazer: | 'lo |
| [15:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | that 800 will never play hdtv |
| [15:01:00] | otwin: | what upload speeds do you guys have – i could not forward a serious to my work |
| [15:01:00] | dev-: | athlon800 is going to be too slow |
| [15:01:00] | otwin: | *stream to my work |
| [15:01:00] | dev-: | otwin: optonline 10mbit/1mbit |
| [15:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | You could capture, but no way would you play it ON that box |
| [15:01:00] | toom: | well, it doesn't necessarily need to do hdtv, right? |
| [15:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have 10MB down, 1.5MB up |
| [15:01:00] | otwin: | wow |
| [15:01:00] | Sungrazer: | (anyone got any experience with Hauppage Nexus-S cards) |
| [15:02:00] | otwin: | 1mbit/128k :-( – our regulator does not do his job |
| [15:02:00] | Sungrazer: | It's a dvb-s |
| [15:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | toom: I don't know about the capabilities of that card, but if you mean analog cable you need to find out if that card does hardware compression and is supported under linux. |
| [15:03:00] | toom: | it is supported |
| [15:03:00] | toom: | and it's a terrestric dvb |
| [15:03:00] | toom: | not cable |
| [15:04:00] | dev-: | toom: is it supported in myth? |
| [15:04:00] | dev-: | i still havent made the leap to hdtv |
| [15:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, so the DVB stream should already be a compressed mpeg2 stream |
| [15:04:00] | dev-: | 9gig/hour kills me |
| [15:04:00] | toom: | don't know |
| [15:04:00] | toom: | i thought, myth supports everything that the kernel can handle |
| [15:04:00] | toom: | somehow.. |
| [15:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you don't have to use your CPU for compressing the incoming stream the 800 might be fine. But it's on the lower end of the bubble |
| [15:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | If it's just a dvb card it should be usable |
| [15:05:00] | dev-: | with an 800, you'll miss out on some features |
| [15:05:00] | dev-: | commercial flagging, you'll have trouble with |
| [15:05:00] | dev-: | (my most favorite feature) |
| [15:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't commflag at all :) |
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| [15:06:00] | dev-: | GreyFoxx: you just ffwd? |
| [15:06:00] | toom: | there we go. if anyone can find more information in their description than me: http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/eng/Products/DVBTLIte.aspx |
| [15:06:00] | dev-: | ffwd/jump |
| [15:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [15:06:00] | dev-: | bah its so nice to just hit a button |
| [15:06:00] | dev-: | ;) |
| [15:06:00] | dev-: | its not perfect, but id say it works a good 95% of the time |
| [15:06:00] | dev-: | strict enabled and such |
| [15:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've had too many times where commflagging misidentified stuff as a commerical and I had to seek arund to find the real end of the commercial |
| [15:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not worth it to me |
| [15:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | But I stopped using it a long time ago, so I don't doubt it's improved in accuracy |
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| [15:07:00] | dev-: | i heard providers have something to do with that. ive talked to people who cant get commflag to work for shit |
| [15:07:00] | dev-: | but for me and my girlfriend, it works a good 90–95% id say |
| [15:07:00] | dev-: | and shes an idiot |
| [15:07:00] | Beirdo: | it works pretty well for me except on a few Law & Order it still buggers |
| [15:07:00] | dev-: | so if she doesnt complain |
| [15:07:00] | dev-: | ... heh |
| [15:07:00] | toom: | lol |
| [15:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just just 3 minutes when commericals start and I am almost always right at where ythe show starts |
| [15:08:00] | dev-: | GreyFoxx: dont know when the last time you tried commflagging was, but i did notice from .17 to .18 it 'got better' |
| [15:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | like .15 or so |
| [15:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [15:08:00] | dev-: | you do need to enable strict and stuff though. by default its not on |
| [15:08:00] | dev-: | you outa try it, for shits and giggles, probably find it works alot better :0 |
| [15:08:00] | dev-: | :) |
| [15:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I keep thinking about it, but I don't care enough about it to do it hehe |
| [15:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | maybe one of these days :) |
| [15:09:00] | dev-: | hehe i hear ya |
| [15:09:00] | toom: | i'll try whatever possible |
| [15:09:00] | dev-: | toom: commflagging takes up some resources |
| [15:10:00] | toom: | do scripts exist that do the flagging after recording is finished/ |
| [15:10:00] | toom: | that'll be ok |
| [15:10:00] | dev-: | with an athlon800 id think you could do 1 stream and commflagging while its recording, but you wouldnt be able to watch it. you would have to let it commflag after the show finishes recording |
| [15:10:00] | toom: | since i'm not going to record 24/7 |
| [15:10:00] | dev-: | but even then, you may not be able to watch tv on it. or at least, livetv |
| [15:11:00] | Sungrazer: | if I may interrupt again... :-) anyone tried to build a mythtv box with the fanless VIA Mini ITX motherboards? |
| [15:11:00] | dev-: | only 1 dude i know |
| [15:11:00] | Sungrazer: | their speeds are around 600–800 mhz |
| [15:11:00] | dev-: | and hes, uh, a little idle |
| [15:11:00] | dev-: | idle : 200 hours 24 mins 38 secs (signon: Fri Oct 21 17:36:20 2005) |
| [15:11:00] | Sungrazer: | ouch |
| [15:12:00] | dev-: | hehe |
| [15:12:00] | toom: | :) |
| [15:12:00] | dev-: | epia 10k |
| [15:12:00] | dev-: | 1ghz |
| [15:12:00] | dev-: | wouldnt go with any slower |
| [15:12:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [15:12:00] | Sungrazer: | maybe he is still waiting for the via to start up mythtv? ;-) |
| [15:12:00] | dev-: | nah, ive seen it, its quick |
| [15:12:00] | dev-: | uses it for his car pc |
| [15:12:00] | dev-: | compiling myth, is another story |
| [15:12:00] | toom: | car pc.. |
| [15:12:00] | Sungrazer: | hehe – use the knoopmyth thingy |
| [15:13:00] | Sungrazer: | knoppmyth even |
| [15:13:00] | dev-: | nah, he wanted to store recordings and music |
| [15:13:00] | dev-: | to watch tv on his lcd |
| [15:13:00] | dev-: | listen to music on his stereo, etc |
| [15:13:00] | dev-: | so he used a laptop drive |
| [15:13:00] | Sungrazer: | oww – in a car? |
| [15:13:00] | dev-: | here, check out his writeup |
| [15:13:00] | Sungrazer: | rather sensitive to temperature shits |
| [15:13:00] | dev-: | https://www.timekiller.org/carpc/ |
| [15:13:00] | dev-: | will answer all your questions |
| [15:13:00] | dev-: | Sungrazer: thats why its under the seat not in the trunk :) |
| [15:13:00] | Sungrazer: | cool – thanks |
| [15:13:00] | Sungrazer: | hehe |
| [15:14:00] | dev-: | over his cell phone service with verizon, he watches livetv in his car too |
| [15:14:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [15:15:00] | Sungrazer: | I got a Hauppage PVR-350 and thinking about getting a Hauppage nexus-s card for digital sattelite dish as well – not so sure how it will perform with encrypted services though |
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| [15:15:00] | Sungrazer: | hence my question about the via cards to be able to have a "silent" livingroom setup |
| [15:16:00] | Sungrazer: | both cards does onboard mpeg encode/decode so the tax on the motherboard / cpu shouldn't be too high |
| [15:16:00] | dev-: | dunno where you'd find a case to cool those 2 cards with no fans |
| [15:16:00] | dev-: | pvr's get smokin hot |
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| [15:16:00] | Sungrazer: | really? Hmm – I didn't realise that |
| [15:16:00] | dev-: | fanless frontend is entirely possible. fanless backened/frontend, i wouldnt do it. you'll be replacing cards in a couple months |
| [15:17:00] | Sungrazer: | sounds expensive in the long run. :-D |
| [15:17:00] | dev-: | it is, ive been through the lesson |
| [15:17:00] | Sungrazer: | dang, I should be careful with the setup I have now then – it doesn't have a chassis fan at all |
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| [15:17:00] | dev-: | had 2 pvr250's too close to each other, in 2 pcislots right next to eatch other on a miniatx board. even had an 80mm intake fan in front of them. still burned 2 out before i realised why |
| [15:18:00] | Sungrazer: | whoops! |
| [15:18:00] | Sungrazer: | Isn't possible to glue a heatsink on them with some silverpaste? |
| [15:18:00] | dev-: | neither of them just completely stopped working. all of a sudden every recording done on cardx had artifacts and mpeg errors and fill the backendlog up with errors and glitches |
| [15:19:00] | dev-: | Sungrazer: in a mini-itx case i doubt you have any room for any sourt of heatsink. in my mini-atx case they cable tuner was literally mm away from the bottom of the other card |
| [15:19:00] | Sungrazer: | true |
| [15:19:00] | Xenna: | It's best to put the mediaserver in a different room from the tv |
| [15:19:00] | Xenna: | imho |
| [15:19:00] | Sungrazer: | I'd better check the temperature on my pvr card as soon as I get home – been running for a week 24/7 now |
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| [15:20:00] | dev-: | you want silent running, the way to do it is master backened in the computer room, all cable feeds into that, small epia fanless mini-itx mythfrontends scattered through the house with 802.11g |
| [15:20:00] | Xenna: | I'm off to buy a pvr 500 now :) |
| [15:20:00] | Sungrazer: | yeah, I could put one up on the attic – would be nice and cool – in the winter. Scorching in the summer. :S |
| [15:20:00] | Sungrazer: | dev: agreed. |
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| [15:21:00] | dev-: | or you could go with really big fans |
| [15:21:00] | Sungrazer: | If I only had a computer room.... ;-) |
| [15:21:00] | dev-: | i did that with the box in the bedroom. its got a 100mm fan on it, cpu fan, and thats it |
| [15:22:00] | dev-: | only one you hear is the cpu fan, 80mm |
| [15:22:00] | dev-: | very faintly |
| [15:22:00] | dev-: | of course, thats no mini-atx case |
| [15:22:00] | Sungrazer: | hm – my wife got good hearing. |
| [15:22:00] | dev-: | thats a midtower on its side behind the tv stand hehe |
| [15:22:00] | Sungrazer: | and I am afraid even a 80mm fan would be too low WAF |
| [15:22:00] | dev-: | yeah might be |
| [15:22:00] | dev-: | me and the woman like to sleep with a fan on |
| [15:23:00] | dev-: | so its kind of a null issue |
| [15:23:00] | dev-: | heh |
| [15:23:00] | Sungrazer: | hehe |
| [15:30:00] | jasta: | i used to have such a problem w/ this with my ex. |
| [15:31:00] | jasta: | i couldn't sleep w/o a quiet humm from a fan |
| [15:31:00] | jasta: | and she couldn't stand it. |
| [15:31:00] | jasta: | i had to turn it off everytime she slept over |
| [15:31:00] | jasta: | and i'd toss and turn all night |
| [15:31:00] | Sungrazer: | hehe – humans are a creature of habits that's for sure |
| [15:31:00] | jasta: | used to always just give up and go play quake3 on mute. |
| [15:31:00] | zoi: | ..if you snoar loud enough you don't even hear the fans |
| [15:32:00] | jasta: | (on another computer) |
| [15:32:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [15:32:00] | jasta: | honestly, i would wake up more abruptly to the sound of my computers turning off than i would to my alarm at its maximum volume. |
| [15:32:00] | Sungrazer: | Muaha |
| [15:32:00] | Beirdo: | so tonight maybe I should finally migrate inn |
| [15:33:00] | Beirdo: | just did backup migration last night |
| [15:33:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [15:33:00] | jasta: | so naturally, power outages sucked. i'd wake up startled, only to realize that there's nothing to do but sleep. |
| [15:34:00] | dev-: | when i first moved out of my parents house, i couldnt sleep |
| [15:34:00] | dev-: | i actually had a "computer room" in my own place, whereas i had 3 pcs running in my bedroom at home |
| [15:34:00] | dev-: | the sound of the silence was deafening |
| [15:34:00] | dev-: | is why i sleep with a fan on heh |
| [15:34:00] | dev-: | ;/ |
| [15:35:00] | Krazylegz: | I have an alarm that to me has the most annoying beep I have ever heard. I always get up immediately and turn it off. |
| [15:36:00] | Beirdo: | I'd smash it real quick |
| [15:36:00] | Beirdo: | dev-: I have 8 computers on 24/7... in a bachelor suite |
| [15:36:00] | Beirdo: | and it's about as loud as a "normal" PC |
| [15:37:00] | dev-: | yeah as long as they have big fans in them its not that bad |
| [15:37:00] | Beirdo: | most are Antec Sonata |
| [15:37:00] | Sungrazer: | The main system I have now is an old compaq case where I've swapped the motherboard. It has 4 fans plus cpu and psu fan. I can hear it on the second floor over the noise of the tv |
| [15:37:00] | Beirdo: | which have 120mm fans |
| [15:37:00] | Krazylegz: | I worry more that other people can't sleep if I have a computer in the room. |
| [15:37:00] | Beirdo: | well, I don't have that issue |
| [15:37:00] | Sungrazer: | oh, and the gpu fan is bitching loud. |
| [15:38:00] | Beirdo: | by the time I'm living with someone, the computers will be in a different room |
| [15:38:00] | Sungrazer: | I think I will toss my computers on the attic of the garasje pretty soon and make a server room there. :-D |
| [15:38:00] | Sungrazer: | garage, even |
| [15:38:00] | Beirdo: | they will overheat |
| [15:38:00] | Beirdo: | unless you aircondition the attic :) |
| [15:38:00] | toom: | watercooling |
| [15:39:00] | Sungrazer: | nah – heard of airconditioning? |
| [15:39:00] | Sungrazer: | hehe |
| [15:39:00] | Krazylegz: | Beirdo lives in Canada, so no, he hasn't. |
| [15:39:00] | Beirdo: | how many people have AC in the garage attic? |
| [15:39:00] | toom: | save money, warm up shower water by cooling your pcs |
| [15:39:00] | Beirdo: | most people don't even AC the garage |
| [15:39:00] | Sungrazer: | uhhhhhm :-D |
| [15:39:00] | Sungrazer: | toom: Actually I am doing that already – indirectly |
| [15:40:00] | Beirdo: | but if you wanna AC the garage attic, cool |
| [15:40:00] | toom: | kickt out the radiator? :) |
| [15:40:00] | Sungrazer: | Beirdo: naah |
| [15:40:00] | Sungrazer: | toom: got a heatpump that is connected to the house mechanical ventilation |
| [15:40:00] | Beirdo: | my apartment has difficulties being below 76F in the winter without the sliding door open |
| [15:40:00] | Beirdo: | and I turn off the heat |
| [15:40:00] | Sungrazer: | and also have a outside collector dug down in the ground |
| [15:41:00] | Sungrazer: | temperature range where I live is from around -30 C in the winter to 40 C in the summer |
| [15:41:00] | toom: | eek |
| [15:42:00] | Sungrazer: | this summer I measured 65 degrees on the attic of the house. Not ideal. |
| [15:42:00] | Sungrazer: | in the attic / on the attic? |
| [15:42:00] | Sungrazer: | you get the idea. :-D |
| [15:43:00] | toom: | sounds like sauna :) |
| [15:43:00] | Sungrazer: | It was extremely hot – I was installing the control system for the electrical shutters for the roof windows in the livingroom |
| [15:44:00] | Sungrazer: | when I was finished I drank 2 liters of water, and still pissed bright yellow. :-D |
| [15:44:00] | toom: | for some reason i get the impression that i'm surrounded by geeks :) |
| [15:44:00] | Sungrazer: | gee – what make you say that?! |
| [15:45:00] | ** Sungrazer looks forward to put his clammy hands on the nexus-s ** | |
| [15:45:00] | ** Sungrazer prays it works. ** | |
| [15:45:00] | toom: | well.. ' i've got 8 pcs in one room' or 'i've got my pc cooling connected to the house air conditioning' ... i can't decide which one is weirder 'electrical shutters for roof windows' is probably just normal :) |
| [15:46:00] | toom: | not to mention that guy with the mazdapc :) |
| [15:46:00] | toom: | pure wickedness |
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| [15:47:00] | Sungrazer: | yeah! |
| [15:48:00] | Sungrazer: | but did you see the guy who made a bezel for his BMW M3? |
| [15:48:00] | toom: | no |
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| [15:49:00] | Sungrazer: | just wicked: http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=29450 |
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| [15:49:00] | Sungrazer: | looks totally OEM |
| [15:50:00] | Sungrazer: | http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=16568 final fit |
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| [15:52:00] | toom: | what's behind? |
| [15:53:00] | Sungrazer: | behind? |
| [15:53:00] | Sungrazer: | oh, you mean os? no idea. :) |
| [15:55:00] | toom: | ah, so there is actually electronics hidden.. |
| [15:56:00] | Sungrazer: | there is a mini itx based pc in the trunk |
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| [16:02:00] | toom: | cya guys, gotta sleep |
| [16:02:00] | Sungrazer: | nite |
| [16:02:00] | toom: | talk to you on friday, probably :) |
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| [16:28:00] | juski: | lol – seems that 85.42.49.56 has an infestation of the plupii worm |
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| [16:37:00] | lightx: | i have a weird problem with mythtv, when i try to select Watch Tv option, it doesnt go anywhere, no error, everything is fine... ??? |
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| [16:39:00] | Chutt: | you're using svn and not reading the commits or dev lists. |
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| [16:40:00] | ivor: | and everytime someone asks that question a fluffy bunny dies. |
| [16:41:00] | lightx: | ah |
| [16:42:00] | lightx: | moo |
| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | won't somebody think of the bunnies |
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| [17:40:00] | Beirdo: | eek |
| [17:40:00] | Beirdo: | so it looks like I'm backing up 30G of stuff |
| [17:40:00] | Beirdo: | fun |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | I guess I'll need to feed it another tape tomorrow and let it do the full backups of the remaining filesystems |
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| [17:42:00] | Jenniver728: | I'd like to add a new drive to my mythbox. I have the drive. Can someone help me out real quick? I've never formatted a drive from scratch for linux before. |
| [17:42:00] | laga: | Jenniver728: use cfdisk for partitioning and mkfs -t <filesystem> to format it |
| [17:43:00] | jams: | heh and make sure you use fdisk/mkfs on the right drive =) |
| [17:43:00] | laga: | yep |
| [17:43:00] | Jenniver728: | cfdisk? |
| [17:44:00] | laga: | Jenniver728: or fdisk, but i like cfdisk better. |
| [17:44:00] | Jenniver728: | when I do fdisk it isn't finding the drive, but it worked a few minutes ago |
| [17:44:00] | laga: | it'S got an illusion of usability |
| [17:46:00] | Jenniver728: | ok..in fdisk...I did t and then put 8e in as the hex code (as per a tutorial i found online) what does that do? |
| [17:46:00] | jams: | yeah I agree, it's a nice ui copy of the old dos fdisk |
| [17:48:00] | jams: | it set's the type of the partion |
| [17:48:00] | jams: | not for sure what 8e is, I would think you would want 83 |
| [17:48:00] | jams: | which is the linux partition type |
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| [17:55:00] | jams: | guess the fdisk was a success |
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| [18:02:00] | jasta: | hmm |
| [18:14:00] | Beirdo: | argh |
| [18:14:00] | Beirdo: | it JUST barely ran out of tape |
| [18:15:00] | Beirdo: | guess I need to amflush tonight... again |
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| [18:17:00] | MrSpiffy: | question |
| [18:17:00] | MrSpiffy: | I am running gui at 800x600 and tv playback 720x480 |
| [18:18:00] | MrSpiffy: | trying to use the guide during tv play |
| [18:18:00] | MrSpiffy: | resolution stays at 720x480 |
| [18:18:00] | MrSpiffy: | so I can't see the guide – doesn;t flip the X resolution back to 800x600 |
| [18:18:00] | MrSpiffy: | is this a bug or a setting? |
| [18:19:00] | Dibblah: | Awww... 09–26 is not in the logbot :( |
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| [18:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | trying to use the guide during tv play |
| [18:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | so I can't see the guide – doesn;t flip the X resolution back to 800x600 |
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| [19:16:00] | MeneMMateo: | I was hoping someone could help me tune my PVR 350. I've got a lot of horizontal greyish lines across the screen on the recordings. I've tried this suggestion on the IVTV wiki: ivtvfbctl /dev/fb1 -alpha -on -globalalpha -nolocalalpha, but to no avail. |
| [19:16:00] | MeneMMateo: | The recording as a whole is a bit washed out, as though you've washed your black T-shirt thirty times to hot |
| [19:19:00] | kormoc: | MeneMMateo, you sure the signal going into the card is clean? |
| [19:25:00] | MeneMMateo: | It's straight from the wall enhanced by a signal ehmm... enhancer.... ;-) |
| [19:26:00] | zoi: | hehe :-) |
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| [19:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | aha |
| [19:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | when myth switches from live tv to program guide it uses xrandr to change the resolution |
| [19:26:00] | kormoc: | sure, but are the cables good? |
| [19:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | problem: my gui size is not "standard" so xrandr can't seicth it |
| [19:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–09 14:15:21.278 SwitchToGUI: xrandr failed for 785 x 565 |
| [19:27:00] | MeneMMateo: | I've tried a few. Actually, I have build three of these mythtv boxes, me, and for two friends |
| [19:27:00] | MeneMMateo: | All three boxes show these weird faint grey lines in them. |
| [19:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | anybody know if I can get myth to not use the gui size setting? |
| [19:27:00] | MeneMMateo: | When I play a DVD on the TV out, it is a perfect crisp picture though |
| [19:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | for xranrd |
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| [19:42:00] | Chutt: | idiots abound. |
| [19:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | So it would seem |
| [19:43:00] | MeneMMateo: | here's one |
| [19:43:00] | MeneMMateo: | but that's a choice... |
| [19:43:00] | Chutt: | naw, not you :p |
| [19:43:00] | MeneMMateo: | ;-) |
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| [19:46:00] | MrSpiffy: | btw chutt – you do not have to use -x -y for xrandr |
| [19:46:00] | MrSpiffy: | can also use an integer for supported modes |
| [19:46:00] | Chutt: | <gasp>, really? |
| [19:46:00] | MrSpiffy: | yeah |
| [19:46:00] | MrSpiffy: | gasp |
| [19:46:00] | MrSpiffy: | really |
| [19:46:00] | MrSpiffy: | sarcastic bastard |
| [19:46:00] | Chutt: | of course, that doesn't change anything. |
| [19:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Is your mode listed by the xrandr command ? |
| [19:47:00] | Chutt: | since the mode you've selected still isn't listed there |
| [19:47:00] | MrSpiffy: | GreyFoxx, no – I am not using a standard gui size which is what is being used for the xrandr command in myth which makes little or no sense to me |
| [19:47:00] | MrSpiffy: | nor is the X resolution available to mythtv |
| [19:47:00] | MrSpiffy: | just what is set |
| [19:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | MrSpiffy: I wasn't sure if xrandr has a set list of sizes or if it pulled in your modelines from your X config |
| [19:48:00] | MrSpiffy: | nor is there code in myth to scale a custom gui size to a standard mode before passing it to xrandr |
| [19:48:00] | Chutt: | you know that for a fact? |
| [19:48:00] | MrSpiffy: | GreyFoxx, neither for myth – it reads the settings database and passes -x -y from whatever it is set to |
| [19:49:00] | MeneMMateo: | May add to my previous question, that normal tv does not suffer from the by PVR350 recorder grey lines? |
| [19:49:00] | MrSpiffy: | must be Chutt – your solution is to use a standard resolution and not the custom size feature in myth. therefore it must be a limitation and not a bug |
| [19:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | MeneMMateo: Grey lines? Vertical "noise" bars or actual grey lines? |
| [19:50:00] | Chutt: | so, you're stating what's in the source without having any idea whatsoever of what's actually there? |
| [19:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | so, big warning – If you do not use a standard resolution you will not be able to see the guide. |
| [19:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | it will display in whatever tv playback is set to |
| [19:50:00] | MeneMMateo: | No they are horizontal grey lines, only appear when recording TV. |
| [19:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | but then again, I am an "idiot" for mentioning it |
| [19:51:00] | MeneMMateo: | About 30 of them, the whoke picture is a tad "washed" |
| [19:51:00] | MeneMMateo: | ivtvfbctl /dev/fb1 -alpha -on -globalalpha -nolocalalpha did not help here. |
| [19:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | MeneMMateo: Using the 350's output? Have you looked at one of the recordings on either another machine or a different output ? |
| [19:52:00] | Chutt: | mrspiffy, no, you're an idiot because of your attitude. |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | yeah chut. your attitude is always positive and helpful |
| [19:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | my mistake |
| [19:53:00] | Chutt: | i am, generally. |
| [19:53:00] | MeneMMateo: | Yes, the lines are in the actual recording. When I play a DVD over the tv out, there are no such lines. When I play a recoding on my Laptop screen the lines are also visible. |
| [19:53:00] | Chutt: | unless people act like idiots |
| [19:53:00] | MrSpiffy: | no bug, no problem, no work around. I never mentioned it |
| [19:53:00] | MrSpiffy: | you, sir, are an idiot |
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| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | MrSpiffy is SUCH a wanker |
| [19:58:00] | Chutt: | funny |
| [19:58:00] | Chutt: | i just tried what he's doing, and it works perfectly. |
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| [19:59:00] | Chutt: | of course, now everything on my desktop is fucked up, because it switched to 800x600 |
| [19:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Heh |
| [20:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | Is there some setting somewhere to keep the OSD constrained to the same GuiX/Y that you have defined for the menus ? |
| [20:00:00] | Chutt: | naw |
| [20:00:00] | Chutt: | that's separate. |
| [20:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | k |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have my GuiX/Y set to less than full screen to keep the menu within my visible area but the OSD goes past the edges. Wasn't sure if there was a way to keep them consistant |
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| [20:05:00] | pridkett: | is there an easy way to disable an encoder without deleting it? For example, I would like to have my cable box HDTV encoder disabled most of the time so it doesn't mess with my card that is encoding the digital cable in sdtv. Then, when I want to record something in HD, I could disable the sdtv and enable the cable box. Doesn't need to be any way fancy. |
| [20:06:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | maybe try using priorities on the cards |
| [20:07:00] | Chutt: | won't work. |
| [20:07:00] | Chutt: | isn't a way to do that in the scheduler. |
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| [20:09:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | change the videosource for the one you want to disable so it can't fid any channels. |
| [20:10:00] | pridkett: | Captain_Murdoch: that requires a mythfilldatabase again then doesn't it? |
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| [20:11:00] | pridkett: | I've been going in and removing the video source to disable cards. |
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| [20:11:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, shouldn't require mythfilldatabase though. |
| [20:12:00] | Chutt: | you need a way to mark two encoders as being exclusive of each other, and it's not designed to allow that |
| [20:13:00] | Chutt: | get another cable box? =) |
| [20:14:00] | pridkett: | Chutt: or finish my patch to do that |
| [20:14:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [20:14:00] | pridkett: | I wouldn't need another cable box if I wasn't one of the moderate amount of folks suffering from interference on their DVB cards. Then I could actually use my pcHDTV card. |
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| [21:19:00] | xris: | mchou: smoking was basically just made illegal in WA. |
| [21:20:00] | laga: | huh? sad |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | woohoo |
| [21:20:00] | xris: | laga: hardly.. rejoicing. :) |
| [21:20:00] | laga: | xris: i ran out of tobacco anyways. |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | just like CA? |
| [21:20:00] | xris: | no smoking within 25 feet of any "public place" or "place of employment" |
| [21:20:00] | xris: | Beirdo: FAR harsher |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | oh for fucks sakes |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | that's retarded |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | but good for fresh air :) |
| [21:21:00] | xris: | passers-by are exempt |
| [21:21:00] | xris: | and private residences. |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | ah, so I could still walk down the sidewalk with a cigar? |
| [21:21:00] | xris: | but bars, restaurants, schools, offices, etc. |
| [21:21:00] | xris: | yes |
| [21:21:00] | xris: | as long as you're walking, you're fine |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | but not walk out of the building at work and stand by the door |
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| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | OK, not so bad |
| [21:21:00] | xris: | correct |
| [21:21:00] | laga: | Beirdo: just run around |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | not that I smoke em anymore anyways |
| [21:22:00] | ** Beirdo is currently smoking a Bic pen ** | |
| [21:22:00] | xris: | and buildings can petition to have the 25 feet rule diminished if their air vent is on the root (thus out of range), etc. |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | that's not too bad |
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| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | and I'm sure that smoking in your car in front of said buildings is still legal |
| [21:23:00] | xris: | yes |
| [21:23:00] | xris: | car is enclosed |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | not necessarily :) |
| [21:23:00] | xris: | and usually more than 25 feet away |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | ummm. |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | not usually |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | your sidewalks ain't THAT huge, I'm sure |
| [21:24:00] | ** Beirdo pulls up in front of xris' work, opens the windows and lights a Cohiba ** | |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:24:00] | xris: | street parking isn't always easy to find, though |
| [21:24:00] | xris: | my car is parked a good 50 feet away from the doorway here. |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | ah. good point |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | sidewalk parking's available :) |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | then you're breaking a different law |
| [21:25:00] | ** Beirdo hasn't smoked since the beginning of June ** | |
| [21:26:00] | ** laga hasn't smoked for 2 hours ** | |
| [21:26:00] | xris: | heh |
| [21:26:00] | xris: | anyway, I thought it was just seattle, but it's statewide. and passed by a huge margin of like 30% |
| [21:26:00] | xris: | means I can go to more concerts since I won't have to deal with smoke. |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | wow, nice |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | you can't agree on a governor, but you can agree on that :) |
| [21:27:00] | xris: | yeah, though the great big sea concert in feb is in an actual theatre, so that'll be nice. |
| [21:27:00] | ** xris wants the new GBS album.... ** | |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | I wonder if I still have the ticket stub... |
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| [21:53:00] | bRuZdEGO: | ok |
| [21:54:00] | bRuZdEGO: | i'm reading all the documentation, and they say you can scan for channels in the channel editor |
| [21:54:00] | bRuZdEGO: | I don't have that option, why? |
| [21:54:00] | bRuZdEGO: | or does 0.18.1 not support it? |
| [21:54:00] | bRuZdEGO: | do I have to get csv? |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | comma separated list? |
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| [22:15:00] | jnunez: | Hi, I had installed MythTV on a box with the timezone set to UTC. I reset it and emptied the programs table from mysql but the system is still 4 hours off |
| [22:15:00] | jnunez: | or the programs are displaying stuff from 4 hours later |
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| [22:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | GreyFoxx, thank you for trying the guide during tv playback config. I think this might be specific to XvMC. |
| [22:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | gui reads modeline: |
| [22:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–09 16:48:14.595 max_width: 800 max_height: 600 |
| [22:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–09 16:48:14.700 max_width: 800 max_height: 600 |
| [22:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–09 16:48:14.701 Trying 800x600 50 Hz |
| [22:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–09 16:48:14.706 SwitchToGUI: Switched to 800 x 600 |
| [22:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | Total desktop width=800, height=600, numscreens=1 |
| [22:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–09 16:48:14.715 Using screen 0, 800x600 at 0,0 |
| [22:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | tv playback read modeline: |
| [22:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–09 16:48:22.389 Trying 720x480 60 Hz |
| [22:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–09 16:48:22.482 Read(): reqd=128000, rcvd=128000, rept=128000, error=0 |
| [22:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–09 16:48:22.541 SwitchToVideo: Video size 720 x 480: |
| [22:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | Switched to displaying resolution 720 x 480, 720mm x 480mm |
| [22:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | hit the Menu/Program guide and it tries the gui size setting – Not the mode. |
| [22:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–09 16:48:27.649 Image size. dispxoff 529, dispyoff: 31, dispwoff: 235, disphoff: 162 |
| [22:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–09 16:48:27.649 Image size. imgx 44, imgy: 0, imgw: 677, imgh: 480 |
| [22:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–09 16:48:27.650 Trying 785x565 0 Hz |
| [22:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–09 16:48:27.650 SwitchToGUI: xrandr failed for 785 x 565 |
| [22:30:00] | MrSpiffy: | 785x565 0 Hz <- poured through the source code looking for the function that loads the modes into an array. why it tries this is a mystery and does not try the previous 800x600 mode is a mystery. |
| [22:30:00] | MrSpiffy: | . |
| [22:30:00] | MrSpiffy: | but it's not a bug. |
| [22:31:00] | MrSpiffy: | turn off the guide: |
| [22:31:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–09 16:48:31.575 Trying 720x480 60 Hz |
| [22:31:00] | MrSpiffy: | perfect. |
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| [22:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | the diff between your setup may be xvmc – but that's a guess |
| [22:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Huh? I don't remember trying anything or did you mean someone else ? |
| [22:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use xrandr, nor xvmc |
| [22:33:00] | MrSpiffy: | oh |
| [22:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | must have been another grey... |
| [22:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | my mistake |
| [22:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | infact I don't truly know why anyone uses xrandr. I've never bothered with it :) |
| [22:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | np :) |
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| [22:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | myth uses it when set to use different modes for gui/playback |
| [22:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Only if you enable xrandr I guess |
| [22:35:00] | MrSpiffy: | which is a really great thing. playback looks much better at 720x480 and the gui looks better at 800x600 for me |
| [22:35:00] | MrSpiffy: | on a TV |
| [22:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have my gui at 690x545, but my resolution is 800x600 which is what is used for video playback |
| [22:35:00] | MrSpiffy: | wow |
| [22:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | overscan? |
| [22:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes, I've shrunk the GUI to not go past the edge of the visible screen |
| [22:37:00] | MrSpiffy: | my gui is 785x565 as overscan puts it in my neighbor's yard |
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| [22:39:00] | MrSpiffy: | oh well. not going to use the guide then |
| [22:39:00] | MrSpiffy: | but in conclusion |
| [22:39:00] | MrSpiffy: | Chut is the smartest and greatest god like person in the world. The best of the best of the best. An overflowing cup of genius. The sun rises and sets in his boxers. |
| [22:40:00] | MrSpiffy: | may santa leave him many peanut m&m's |
| [22:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | errr ok |
| [22:41:00] | kormoc: | You insensitive clod! How do you know he's not allergic to peanuts?! Are you tring to kill him?!?! |
| [22:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | oh my no |
| [22:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | and rob humanity of such a shining star? |
| [22:43:00] | Chutt: | enough. |
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| [22:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | regular then. |
| [22:43:00] | ChanServ sets mode +o Chutt | |
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| [22:53:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [22:53:00] | Chutt: | found his problem, btw. |
| [22:53:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [22:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | what was it ? |
| [22:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never bothered even looking at the xrandr stuff |
| [22:57:00] | Chutt: | it switches to the exact screen size if you go into the guide. |
| [22:57:00] | Chutt: | and only if you go into the guide from watching tv. |
| [22:57:00] | Chutt: | which he hadn't mentioned before. |
| [22:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [22:57:00] | Chutt: | i've never bothered looking at it before, either. |
| [22:58:00] | pridkett: | Hey Chutt, so I'm working on a simple patch to disable a tuner temporarily and reenable another, and was thinking that probably the easiset way to do this from a scheduling perspective is to just put a dummy job in the schedule at really high priority for that card, but when the time comes not have it record anything. Sound okay |
| [22:58:00] | pridkett: | ? |
| [22:58:00] | Chutt: | possibly |
| [22:59:00] | Chutt: | might be easier to just have the scheduler disable the card |
| [22:59:00] | Chutt: | ie., not take it into consideration |
| [23:00:00] | pridkett: | my impression was if the scheduler disabled the card, then it would be disabled for the entire period that it's scheduling for |
| [23:00:00] | Chutt: | wouldn't be hard to kick off a reschedule whenever that changed. |
| [23:00:00] | pridkett: | for example, if I'm only recording from the cable box in hd from 9–10pm, I only need my PVR-250 disabled from 9–10pm |
| [23:00:00] | Chutt: | right |
| [23:02:00] | pridkett: | if I disable the card completely in the scheduler, then during the time it's disabled, you'll get all sorts of weird scheduling issues I would imagine. For example, saying a bunch of shows couldn't be recorded. Once the tuner is back online, things will be fine, I guess. |
| [23:02:00] | pridkett: | That seems easier for right now too. Thanks for the pointer. |
| [23:03:00] | GeekZoid: | hi |
| [23:03:00] | GeekZoid: | Has anyone sucessfully burned shows using mythtv syn version? |
| [23:03:00] | GeekZoid: | it saves it as a .mpg file but when i run dvdauthor i get a bunch ofskipping errors |
| [23:04:00] | GeekZoid: | the examples on the web site show *.m2v and *.nuv |
| [23:04:00] | GeekZoid: | and none of those files exist there |
| [23:04:00] | Chutt: | don't ping the channel. |
| [23:05:00] | GeekZoid: | oh sorry. I just wanted to see if my server was messed |
| [23:05:00] | GeekZoid: | or my client |
| [23:05:00] | Chutt: | so ping yourself. |
| [23:05:00] | Chutt: | oh noes! nobody answered right away! i must be lagged! |
| [23:05:00] | ** GeekZoid looks at Chutt ** | |
| [23:06:00] | GeekZoid: | no thats not why. becuase i did a /chanenl |
| [23:06:00] | GeekZoid: | and nothing happened |
| [23:06:00] | GeekZoid: | but i'll ping myself next time. |
| [23:08:00] | jnunez: | Hey Guys. I wiped out the program table and re-ran mythfilldatabase and I still get the program dates wrong. right now it's giving me the 11pm shows and it's only 6pm in the EST |
| [23:09:00] | GeekZoid: | is your time zone set up correctly? :S |
| [23:10:00] | jnunez: | It wasnt the first time I setup MythTV but I did change it |
| [23:11:00] | kormoc: | jnunez, so date at a prompt shows the correct time? |
| [23:11:00] | jnunez: | I used tzconfig to change the time zone and then ntp to update the time. |
| [23:11:00] | jnunez: | up |
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| [23:12:00] | jnunez: | yup. the date function is correct |
| [23:13:00] | pridkett: | jnunez: still sounds an awful lot like you're stuck in UTC |
| [23:15:00] | jnunez: | Anywhere else I should change the date? Is tzconfig correct? |
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| [23:20:00] | mofu: | you updated the time/date in the BIOS? |
| [23:22:00] | jave: | mythgame doesnt seem to want to show my mame roms. what can be the reason? the game search progress bar chews along. |
| [23:22:00] | jnunez: | mofu: I'll have to check the bios |
| [23:22:00] | CanadaBoy: | anyone here a mythtyv xbox frontend? |
| [23:23:00] | baskew: | mmm, yeah |
| [23:24:00] | CanadaBoy: | baskew u do? |
| [23:24:00] | baskew: | yes i do |
| [23:25:00] | CanadaBoy: | how do u like it? softmod or chipped? |
| [23:25:00] | Chutt sets mode -bbb *!n=MrSpiffy@*.hsd1.nh.comcast.net *!*n=metal@*.sc.res.rr.com *!*n=klined@*.ewndsr01.nj.comcast.net | |
| [23:25:00] | Chutt sets mode -o Chutt | |
| [23:25:00] | baskew: | chip, love it works great |
| [23:26:00] | a1fa: | guys |
| [23:26:00] | a1fa: | i got a small problem |
| [23:26:00] | a1fa: | all my broadcast channels are there |
| [23:26:00] | a1fa: | and none from cable |
| [23:26:00] | baskew: | quiet, and is perfect for bedrooms |
| [23:26:00] | CanadaBoy: | baskew: the emulator with with the controller? |
| [23:26:00] | a1fa: | but i dont get any cable channels.. there is this snow instead of channel |
| [23:27:00] | a1fa: | zap2it.com provided the good information.. all the channels i supposed to get are mapped |
| [23:27:00] | baskew: | CanadaBoy: mmm what are you asking? |
| [23:27:00] | a1fa: | but when i try to view them |
| [23:27:00] | a1fa: | they are snow |
| [23:27:00] | a1fa: | all basic channels are there tho |
| [23:27:00] | CanadaBoy: | baskew: if mythtgames (i.e. a snens/nes emulator) works with an xbox controller? |
| [23:27:00] | mofu: | you have antenna and cable connected? |
| [23:28:00] | a1fa: | cable |
| [23:28:00] | a1fa: | as of this morning |
| [23:28:00] | a1fa: | mofu: i changed my zap2it.com settings and redownloaded.. mythtv mapped all channels |
| [23:28:00] | baskew: | oooh...hmm dunno about that, i had to connect a keyboard to the xbox in order to setup myth, i am running xebian |
| [23:28:00] | mofu: | did you delete you channels in Mythtv-setup? |
| [23:29:00] | CanadaBoy: | baskew: awe ok ... what about uptime issues .. ie how long do you leave the frontend running? |
| [23:29:00] | baskew: | CanadaBoy: i leave it on for days at a time |
| [23:29:00] | ** baskew kinda worry if that is good thing ** | |
| [23:29:00] | a1fa: | yes.. i deleted the old ones |
| [23:29:00] | a1fa: | and got new ones |
| [23:29:00] | CanadaBoy: | baskew: sweet thanks ... i think i will definatly do it ... |
| [23:29:00] | a1fa: | the channels are all there, but when I view |
| [23:30:00] | a1fa: | > 12 are snow |
| [23:30:00] | baskew: | CanadaBoy: np |
| [23:30:00] | mofu: | did you select cable at the correct places? probably not |
| [23:31:00] | mofu: | using the wrong freqency table, go back through setup |
| [23:31:00] | a1fa: | usa-cable? |
| [23:31:00] | a1fa: | i think i put it at default |
| [23:31:00] | mofu: | i don't know, are you in the US? |
| [23:32:00] | a1fa: | yes |
| [23:33:00] | mofu: | I think there is an alternate cable freq table, or worst case your cable company has migrated almost everything to Digital |
| [23:33:00] | mofu: | you get these snowy stations on a cable ready TV? |
| [23:33:00] | baskew: | us-cable-hfb |
| [23:33:00] | a1fa: | yes i do |
| [23:35:00] | a1fa: | i am trying us-cable-hfb |
| [23:36:00] | a1fa: | now there is no audio |
| [23:38:00] | jnunez: | baskew: DUDE THANKS! and mofu It was the BIOS and then I used baskew's order to fix things |
| [23:38:00] | baskew: | or is it hrc...i forget |
| [23:38:00] | baskew: | jnunez: no problem |
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| [23:39:00] | jnunez: | baskew: Your XBox MythTV frontend. how hard was the install? I have tons of other apps on the HD will it affect any of those? |
| [23:39:00] | jnunez: | I currently run XBMC but would love to let my son pull videos off my main mythtv box |
| [23:40:00] | baskew: | jnunez: http://www.mythtv-xbox.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=36 si what i used |
| [23:40:00] | iam1e3t: | can i get the 'hp quickplay' functionality with myth on a seperate partition? Like mp3/basic movies |
| [23:40:00] | baskew: | jnunez: you should try xbmc-mythtv |
| [23:41:00] | jnunez: | ok i will look for that. Right now I need to finish my MythTV box first. I just got it working on My HDTV via HDMI |
| [23:41:00] | baskew: | jnunez: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xbmcmythtv |
| [23:42:00] | jnunez: | Need to get a higher resolution currently (800x600) with a display size to give me a widescreen look |
| [23:42:00] | iam1e3t: | has anyone heard of the quickplay feature in hp laptops? |
| [23:42:00] | mofu: | jnunez: what rez is your screen? |
| [23:42:00] | GeekZoid: | |
| [23:43:00] | jnunez: | My Sony HDTV is 1080i |
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| [23:43:00] | mofu: | iam1e3t: will quickplay handle mpg files?? |
| [23:43:00] | iam1e3t: | im guessing so |
| [23:44:00] | iam1e3t: | im pretty sure that quickplay uses linux as a base |
| [23:45:00] | iam1e3t: | im just looking for basic functionality: NTFS support, mp3, cd, DivX files, dvd playing..with the almost instant-on speed similair to the hp quickplay |
| [23:45:00] | chaoticgeek: | arg I cant connect to dalnet |
| [23:45:00] | chaoticgeek: | stupid school, it filters out certin stuff |
| [23:46:00] | GeekZoid: | dalnet sucks |
| [23:46:00] | mofu: | iam1e3t: my best guess would be to use the pretty script to sym-link mpg file names to the NUV files |
| [23:46:00] | GeekZoid: | freenode rocks :) |
| [23:46:00] | chaoticgeek: | dalnet is the onlyplace where I can get on one channle that I wanna get on |
| [23:47:00] | mofu: | iam1e3t: are you trying to view Myth files on an HP QuickPlay system, or trying to create something like it? |
| [23:47:00] | chaoticgeek: | someone said something about mythtv for windows the other day |
| [23:47:00] | chaoticgeek: | is that true? |
| [23:47:00] | jnunez: | quickplay could be using open bios? |
| [23:47:00] | mofu: | WinMyth=waste of a good computer |
| [23:48:00] | chaoticgeek: | ahhh |
| [23:48:00] | chaoticgeek: | so there is |
| [23:48:00] | jnunez: | i read about this a while back |
| [23:48:00] | iam1e3t: | create something like it |
| [23:48:00] | chaoticgeek: | I hate this wintv application for veiwing tv |
| [23:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | chaoticgeek: WinMyth is it's own app for playing Mythfiles on awindows box. It's known to be very unstable however |
| [23:49:00] | chaoticgeek: | so thats a Dont get it |
| [23:49:00] | iam1e3t: | junez: the install for quickplay requires a 212mb partition, and the forums say that it is linux |
| [23:49:00] | jnunez: | beyond pvr wanted a bios hook to be able to load apps for an instant cd/dvd/mp3 player |
| [23:49:00] | chaoticgeek: | Hi GreyFoxx |
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| [23:51:00] | iam1e3t: | so what distro should i use as a base – i want that fastest boot |
| [23:51:00] | chaoticgeek: | debian |
| [23:52:00] | chaoticgeek: | slackware |
| [23:52:00] | GeekZoid: | super suse |
| [23:52:00] | GeekZoid: | gentoo |
| [23:52:00] | kormoc: | iam1e3t, gentoo, fedora, redhat, mandrake, suse |
| [23:52:00] | GeekZoid: | yoper |
| [23:52:00] | chaoticgeek: | those two come to my mind when I think quick base system install |
| [23:52:00] | kormoc: | iam1e3t, LFS |
| [23:52:00] | ** GeekZoid laughs ** | |
| [23:52:00] | mofu: | he said quick boot, not quick install |
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| [23:52:00] | chaoticgeek: | ya |
| [23:53:00] | chaoticgeek: | I meant as a quick book and base system install |
| [23:53:00] | iam1e3t: | hehe, ive dealt with gentoo, slack, and fedora |
| [23:53:00] | jnunez: | iam1e3t: |
| [23:53:00] | chaoticgeek: | I just cant communicate very well |
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| [23:53:00] | jnunez: | iam1e3t: instanton is the name of the bios |
| [23:53:00] | mofu: | you can tune just about any distro, arguably you need to compile EVERYTHING from source for you system, and your system only, NO EXTRAS! |
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| [23:54:00] | chaoticgeek: | ya I'm sure we all will get right on that |
| [23:54:00] | mofu: | in the end it will probably be easiest on whatever you prefer |
| [23:54:00] | jnunez: | i think you can buy a motherboard with it |
| [23:54:00] | chaoticgeek: | ya |
| [23:54:00] | iam1e3t: | but, quickplay requires a partition |
| [23:55:00] | iam1e3t: | and it posts first, almost like it booted really quickly into linux rather into windows |
| [23:55:00] | jnunez: | yup so does instant on... i think hp licensed it from intervideo |
| [23:55:00] | iam1e3t: | so what distro (i need NTFS Support) should i look into for the fastest boot time |
| [23:55:00] | mofu: | you could dual boot, CF the quick stuff, with another partion for full system. |
| [23:56:00] | iam1e3t: | and possible network support (i know thats kinda pushing it) |
| [23:56:00] | mofu: | iam1e3t: NTFS-read-only OK?? |
| [23:56:00] | iam1e3t: | ok |
| [23:56:00] | iam1e3t: | will probably work |
| [23:56:00] | iam1e3t: | im thinking about doing this with my laptop (80gb drive) |
| [23:56:00] | iam1e3t: | give my myth partition 1gb and 76 (or so) to my windows |
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| [23:57:00] | GeekZoid: | lol |
| [23:57:00] | jnunez: | my next frontend will be off a cf card 1gb |
| [23:57:00] | GeekZoid: | nice away message |
| [23:57:00] | mofu: | iam1e3t: you're done, you have NO IDEA what your talking about |
| [23:57:00] | baskew: | heh |
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| [23:58:00] | ** GeekZoid looks at iam1e3t ** | |
| [23:58:00] | GeekZoid: | umm |
| [23:58:00] | GeekZoid: | You need alot more disk space for myth! |
| [23:58:00] | ** GeekZoid chuckles ** | |
| [23:58:00] | iam1e3t: | i dont plan on recording tv |
| [23:58:00] | iam1e3t: | my laptop doesnt have a capture card, so i was planning on reading media from my windows ntfs partition |
| [23:59:00] | mofu: | iam1e3t: you might try KnopMyth, boot from CD |
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