| Thursday, November 3rd, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | Tada21: | resizing my drive hope no power failures |
| [00:01:00] | Juski: | rsdvd: you might have more luck with a properly configured xorg.conf ;) |
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| [00:02:00] | rsdvd: | trouble is I have no idea what a 'proper configured' xorg.conf shouldbe like......I hav always used the auto configured one and never tweaked it |
| [00:03:00] | Juski: | I'm talking bollocks again.. kb config isn't done in xorg.. not for layout options anyway |
| [00:03:00] | Tada21: | crap my paragon resize hanfinf i think |
| [00:03:00] | rsdvd: | :-) |
| [00:03:00] | Juski: | rsdvd.. minimyth 0.18.1.8 still? |
| [00:03:00] | Tada21: | miniyth ? |
| [00:04:00] | ** xris kicks ImageMagickj ** | |
| [00:04:00] | rsdvd: | No....I had to drop back to 1.18.1.7.......8 kept giving me decompression errrors |
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| [00:04:00] | rsdvd: | oops 0.18.1.7 |
| [00:05:00] | Juski: | rsdvd.. you could always hackski the settings into the databaseski ;) |
| [00:05:00] | rsdvd: | I thought that.....but I don't knwo what fields map to what tables........but I am suer I could work it out |
| [00:06:00] | Juski: | settings table.. but there's a hell of a lot of stuff in there |
| [00:07:00] | rsdvd: | yes....a HELL of a lot |
| [00:08:00] | Juski: | rsdvd: in the settings table there are 3 columns: 'value', 'data' and 'hostname' |
| [00:09:00] | Juski: | the video directory location is held in VideoStartupDir |
| [00:09:00] | rsdvd: | I am looking at it now.......there are hundreds of records keyed on the hostname |
| [00:09:00] | Tada21: | hmm |
| [00:09:00] | Tada21: | to bad we can multi booot.. like split outpus device in 2 and boot 2 things at once.. EX 2 partitions |
| [00:09:00] | Tada21: | s/can/cant |
| [00:10:00] | Juski: | rsdvd: how are you mounting the videos directory anyway? by default it mounts to the right place |
| [00:10:00] | Juski: | e.g. by default it's set to /mnt/video/, and you configure what that location happens to be in minimyth.conf |
| [00:10:00] | rsdvd: | I have a minimyth.script that mounts my whole /video fielsystem from the backend |
| [00:11:00] | Juski: | weird that the keyboard doesn't work properly.. you tried a different keyboard? If yes, then I'd post a question on www.linpvr.org/forum/ |
| [00:12:00] | rsdvd: | I might do.....I seem to find ways round most of my problems.....I will keep perseverving! |
| [00:12:00] | Juski: | this is why I've not upgraded yet.. it's working at 0.18.1.2 ;) |
| [00:13:00] | Juski: | and they've changed a whole bunch of stuff in the config files I'll have to spend time I ain't got getting to know it |
| [00:13:00] | rsdvd: | BTW.....I worked out a way round only having Black&White SVideo.........Use Composite :-) |
| [00:13:00] | Tada21: | ok where is the anykley ? |
| [00:14:00] | Juski: | eeew composite! |
| [00:15:00] | rsdvd: | the svideo was always B&W...and all the people I spoke to were using composite |
| [00:15:00] | rsdvd: | what do you use? |
| [00:15:00] | Juski: | svid |
| [00:15:00] | rsdvd: | mine was always b&W....could be the TV though |
| [00:15:00] | Juski: | far superior to composite on my tv ;) |
| [00:16:00] | simon_c: | looks like deleting kdesktop_lock will stop the damn screen from locking up :-) |
| [00:16:00] | rsdvd: | the next frontend I build will be for a new LCD/Plasma TV.....so I will just buy one with VGA in |
| [00:17:00] | ** Juski isn't getting a plasma or LCD set until HD hits the UK ** | |
| [00:17:00] | Juski: | SDTV looks like crap on screens bigger than 32" IMHO |
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| [00:18:00] | rsdvd: | I won;t go to HD untill it has been out for a while.....and they have settled on a standard etc |
| [00:18:00] | Tada21: | ? |
| [00:18:00] | Juski: | especially <6Mbit MPEG2 we get on digital services |
| [00:18:00] | Tada21: | well now youll need a broadcast flag |
| [00:18:00] | Tada21: | or cant dump the video |
| [00:18:00] | Tada21: | for anything higheter then 480 |
| [00:18:00] | Juski: | there's been no talk of adopting the broadcast flag in the UK :D |
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| [00:18:00] | Tada21: | well manufacturer will make them |
| [00:19:00] | Juski: | if they lock everything down so i can't watch what I want when I want on the system of my choice I'll do without thanks |
| [00:19:00] | rsdvd: | I agree |
| [00:20:00] | Juski: | I don't buy DRM protected music online |
| [00:20:00] | Tada21: | no |
| [00:20:00] | Tada21: | i mean they will block you from saving the movie if higher then 480 it will downgrade it |
| [00:20:00] | Tada21: | so HDTV will be protected in source |
| [00:20:00] | Juski: | that's what I mean.. they can shove their protectionism where the sun don't shine |
| [00:20:00] | Tada21: | unless we make drivers that ignore the flag |
| [00:20:00] | Tada21: | ;) |
| [00:21:00] | Tada21: | but hey |
| [00:21:00] | Juski: | fair enough, preventing piracy & filesharing but dictating what we watch stuff on? take a hike, MPAA etc |
| [00:21:00] | Tada21: | dish etc can be bypassed via fta . so easy to decrypt the keys is funny |
| [00:21:00] | Tada21: | so i guess that will be easier |
| [00:22:00] | Tada21: | exaclty who are they do say you cant restream the feed you bought onto the seoncds floor of your house |? |
| [00:22:00] | Tada21: | they wanna pass that on the broadcast act |
| [00:22:00] | Tada21: | since you are broadcasting a tv fee |
| [00:22:00] | Tada21: | even on a lan |
| [00:22:00] | Tada21: | its still bradcast |
| [00:22:00] | Tada21: | assholes |
| [00:22:00] | Juski: | well if enough people don't buy into it.. it'll fail :D |
| [00:23:00] | Beirdo: | Tada21, let's stay above the legal board, K? |
| [00:23:00] | Tada21: | yeah |
| [00:23:00] | Tada21: | just saying that its crap.. |
| [00:23:00] | Beirdo: | it is :) |
| [00:23:00] | Beirdo: | stupid-ass laws to be sure |
| [00:24:00] | Juski: | hollywood hasn't even considered the possibility that the reason less people go to see movies these days is because they're churning out a lot of rubbish ;-) like the music industry too... |
| [00:24:00] | Tada21: | especially qith all hardware , home theater converging to a pc based solution |
| [00:24:00] | Tada21: | well |
| [00:24:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I don't go to movies often, they rip us off and give us SHITE to watch |
| [00:24:00] | Tada21: | you know BEV in cananda ( dish sister) made 600% icrease in ssales by letting piracy run |
| [00:24:00] | Beirdo: | I'll wait for a DVD, thanks |
| [00:24:00] | Tada21: | then killing it soflty |
| [00:24:00] | Tada21: | gave them exposiure |
| [00:25:00] | Tada21: | so i guess when you get a jacked movie you will by a clean dvd version for the cover , insides, extra and nice logs anyhow |
| [00:25:00] | Tada21: | if you liked it |
| [00:25:00] | Tada21: | anyhow |
| [00:25:00] | Tada21: | back to legal now |
| [00:25:00] | Tada21: | sorry |
| [00:25:00] | Juski: | I'm waiting for WoTW to come out on DVD to see if they had a GOOD alternative ending :) |
| [00:26:00] | Juski: | and it's been a while since my subwoofer had a decent workout |
| [00:26:00] | Tada21: | wotw ? |
| [00:26:00] | Juski: | war of the worlds |
| [00:26:00] | Tada21: | war of the worlds |
| [00:26:00] | Tada21: | yeah |
| [00:26:00] | Tada21: | got itlol |
| [00:27:00] | Tada21: | btw anyway to ocnvert a cd iso to dvd ? |
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| [00:27:00] | Tada21: | iso buster maybe ? darn Fedorea is cd iso and no more blank cd here only 4000 DVD |
| [00:27:00] | Tada21: | meant40 |
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| [00:27:00] | Tada21: | anyone have exp with that ? |
| [00:27:00] | Juski: | heheh.. 4000 blank dvds? what would anyone be doing with 4000 recordable discs at home? ;) |
| [00:28:00] | Tada21: | ;) |
| [00:28:00] | Beirdo: | stocking up |
| [00:28:00] | kormoc: | I beleive you can just burn it, no? doesn't it only require UDF if it's over 800 megs? |
| [00:29:00] | Tada21: | well |
| [00:29:00] | Tada21: | it needs to boot |
| [00:29:00] | Tada21: | they are bootable crap ? |
| [00:29:00] | ** Beirdo boots some crap ** | |
| [00:29:00] | Tada21: | when with nero i try to vutn a cd iso to dvd i get wrong media type |
| [00:29:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [00:29:00] | Tada21: | lol 7 of 9 plays in the OC ? |
| [00:30:00] | kormoc: | my understandign was if it was only the first 800 megs or so it was just gonna act like a cd. |
| [00:30:00] | Tada21: | never realised |
| [00:30:00] | Tada21: | k trying |
| [00:30:00] | Tada21: | but it wont boot |
| [00:30:00] | Tada21: | hmm |
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| [00:36:00] | Tada21: | wow |
| [00:36:00] | Tada21: | nero doenst let you |
| [00:36:00] | Tada21: | but alcohol does |
| [00:37:00] | Tada21: | also weird burining at 4x = 5520KB/s and 40X is burning at 7500KB/s |
| [00:37:00] | Tada21: | i think we getting screwed by the X guys |
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| [00:41:00] | kormoc: | nero likly does the, the user must be stupid to use a dvd for a 700 meg iso |
| [00:42:00] | Tada21: | or has no other media.. |
| [00:42:00] | kormoc: | nero doesn't likly think bout that option |
| [00:42:00] | Tada21: | now my dvd cost 50 cents.. a trip to the mall cost 7.40 in gas |
| [00:42:00] | Tada21: | do the math |
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| [00:44:00] | Tada21: | still wondering |
| [00:44:00] | Tada21: | burining at 4x = 5520KB/s and 40X is burning at 7500KB/s |
| [00:44:00] | Tada21: | any of you get this ? |
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| [00:45:00] | Tada21: | booting a cd iso on dvd .. lets see how this goes |
| [00:45:00] | Tada21: | worked |
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| [00:47:00] | Tada21: | wonder if a p4 3.2 HT with 2 gig ddr2 400 is too overkill |
| [00:47:00] | kormoc: | Tada21, 1x on a cdrom is 700 mb in 80 min |
| [00:47:00] | Tada21: | also wondring how to multi boot now lilo or grub ? |
| [00:48:00] | kormoc: | Tada21, 1x on a dvd is 4.8 gb in like a long time, different ways to determin what 1x is |
| [00:48:00] | kormoc: | Tada21, grub is better imho |
| [00:48:00] | Tada21: | k |
| [00:48:00] | Tada21: | it can deal with windwos + linux on same drive diff parts ? |
| [00:49:00] | kormoc: | a lot better then lilo can, that's for sure |
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| [00:59:00] | Tada21: | darn |
| [00:59:00] | Tada21: | i need to redo |
| [00:59:00] | Tada21: | grub sems nice |
| [01:05:00] | Tada21: | anyone know what is MACE Wnd |
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| [01:10:00] | Bricktop: | I just installed th ViaXvMC, compiled MythTv with --enable-xvmc-vld |
| [01:10:00] | Bricktop: | I now i can't watch tv |
| [01:11:00] | Bricktop: | Mythtv just hangs when i click watch tv :( |
| [01:12:00] | Bricktop: | "Waited too long for decoder to pause" |
| [01:13:00] | Bricktop: | Where can I disable the XvMC? for checking |
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| [01:18:00] | Bricktop: | ? |
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| [01:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | hello |
| [01:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | I have a backend with a pvr-250 running. I can view on the backend and on my PC – frontend. |
| [01:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | however |
| [01:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | on another frontend via-epia I cannot |
| [01:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | error: can not initialize video |
| [01:30:00] | MrSpiffy: | it plays live tv BADLY without xvmc |
| [01:30:00] | MrSpiffy: | have you guys seen anything like this? |
| [01:30:00] | Bricktop: | Having same stuff right now :) |
| [01:31:00] | Bricktop: | Trying to fix things... |
| [01:31:00] | Bricktop: | first I need to make sure the XvMC was correctly installed |
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| [01:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | Bricktop, here's what I get |
| [01:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | Using XvMC version: 1.1 |
| [01:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | XvMC found and using MC surface |
| [01:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–02 19:25:17.837 Using XV port 68 |
| [01:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–02 19:25:20.519 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [01:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–02 19:25:20.520 Decoder not alive, and trying to play.. |
| [01:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–02 19:25:20.595 Changing from None to None |
| [01:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | decoder not alive? |
| [01:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | wtf |
| [01:35:00] | Bricktop: | I thinks he means XV... But im having a diffrent situatino |
| [01:35:00] | Bricktop: | I had video(filckred but video) wihout XvMC |
| [01:35:00] | Bricktop: | and now after installing I'm not able to watch tv at all :( |
| [01:35:00] | Bricktop: | Just black frame |
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| [01:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | if I do not use xvmc, then it plays very badly |
| [01:36:00] | Juski: | all you guys using EPIA boards as frontends could save yourselves a whole lot of hassle by using minimyth ya know |
| [01:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | stutters |
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| [01:37:00] | Bricktop: | yep |
| [01:38:00] | Bricktop: | What is minimyth? |
| [01:38:00] | Juski: | if you only use the EPIA for a frontend, and not backend duties |
| [01:38:00] | Bricktop: | I need him as a backend too. |
| [01:38:00] | Juski: | Bricktop: minimyth is a binary linux distro with mythtv made especially for EPIA boards |
| [01:39:00] | Juski: | ahh – in that case, Bricktop, minimyth is not for you |
| [01:39:00] | kormoc: | Juski, can't the EPIA's be grand with hardware mpeg encoders, or is there issues with that? |
| [01:39:00] | Juski: | it only does frontend stuff, but I guess it could be adapted if you're up to buidling it yourself |
| [01:40:00] | Juski: | kormoc: I've got my EPIA frontend using HW mpeg decoding just fine |
| [01:40:00] | kormoc: | Juski, I mean, it should be able to handle both front and back end tasks with hardware encoder, no? |
| [01:40:00] | Juski: | should easily be able to |
| [01:41:00] | Juski: | the tricky bit (and I mean tricky) is getting the onboard HW decoder to work properly |
| [01:41:00] | Juski: | if you look at any of the ViaXvMC howto guides there's a lot of work involved |
| [01:41:00] | kormoc: | ahh, gotcha |
| [01:42:00] | Juski: | I found a really good guide.. I'll dig it out |
| [01:42:00] | Bricktop: | mp2player: error while loading shared libraries: libXvMCW.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| [01:42:00] | Bricktop: | and i have /usr/lib/X11R6/lib/libXvMCW.so.1 |
| [01:42:00] | Bricktop: | what can cause that? |
| [01:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | I haven't gotten that far |
| [01:43:00] | Juski: | http://epialinux.org/ |
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| [01:43:00] | Bricktop: | I built LFS for mythtv |
| [01:44:00] | Tada21: | lfs ? |
| [01:44:00] | Bricktop: | It sounds as the best thing for me :D |
| [01:44:00] | Bricktop: | linux from scrath |
| [01:44:00] | Bricktop: | www.linuxfromscratch.org |
| [01:44:00] | Juski: | there's a very detailed gentoo guide too, which could quite easily be adopted to another distro |
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| [01:44:00] | Juski: | http://www.epiawiki.org/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=EpiaHowto |
| [01:44:00] | Tada21: | Bricktop your error is easy |
| [01:44:00] | Tada21: | mp2 player cant find the share object |
| [01:45:00] | Tada21: | locate libXvMCW.so.1 |
| [01:45:00] | Tada21: | make sute that patch in /etc/ld.so.conf |
| [01:45:00] | Tada21: | and ldconfig |
| [01:45:00] | Tada21: | i meanr rerun ldconfig |
| [01:45:00] | Bricktop: | Thats what I thought |
| [01:45:00] | Bricktop: | but i have "/usr/X11R6/lib/" |
| [01:45:00] | Bricktop: | in ld.so.conf |
| [01:46:00] | Tada21: | locate libXvMCW.so.1 |
| [01:46:00] | Tada21: | where is it ? |
| [01:46:00] | Bricktop: | thats it I forgot to ldconfig |
| [01:46:00] | Tada21: | k |
| [01:46:00] | Tada21: | ;) |
| [01:46:00] | Tada21: | no prob |
| [01:46:00] | Bricktop: | Sleepy I am :) |
| [01:46:00] | Juski: | Tada21: what does that bit do then? (pardon my ignorance) |
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| [01:49:00] | atomjack: | i'm having a problem with the cx88-dvb drivers (with my hd-3000) – it's been working fine, then all of a sudden after a reboot, the cx88-dvb module won't load, and dmesg shows this: "cx88xx: disagrees about version of symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog" |
| [01:49:00] | MrSpiffy: | confirmed – as soon as I try to use xvmc in myth (check) it fails miserably |
| [01:49:00] | MrSpiffy: | after a reboot it works not using it – software only |
| [01:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | I guess I know what I am doing tomorrow |
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| [01:54:00] | Bricktop: | Why does mp2player looks for libXvMCNVIDIA*.so.1 |
| [01:54:00] | Bricktop: | I want him to look for via :( |
| [01:55:00] | xris: | Bricktop: did you compule it with via instead of xvmc? |
| [01:55:00] | Bricktop: | no :( |
| [01:57:00] | xris: | compuling, or compiling as most people call it (/me kicks his typo-infested fingers), generally helps. |
| [02:00:00] | Bricktop: | I don't find the ./configure switch :( |
| [02:06:00] | Bricktop: | how can I check if the VldXvMC is working??? |
| [02:06:00] | kormoc: | try to watch tv and see if it works or not? |
| [02:07:00] | Bricktop: | but thats will involve mythtv also |
| [02:07:00] | atomjack: | aw man looks like comcast has started encrypting discovery HD :((((( |
| [02:07:00] | Bricktop: | I can't watch telvision in mythtv right now, i want to isolate the cause |
| [02:08:00] | Bricktop: | I wanted to test it using m2player |
| [02:08:00] | Bricktop: | but i don't know how to compile it for vldXvMC |
| [02:10:00] | Bricktop: | ? |
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| [02:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | drop table snessettings ; |
| [02:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
| [02:33:00] | Bricktop: | I need to get some sleep :) |
| [02:33:00] | Bricktop: | Good Night everyone |
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| [02:45:00] | Lightning: | evening, got moved into my new house :) |
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| [02:53:00] | Juski: | another late night... ack |
| [02:53:00] | Juski: | night all |
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| [02:55:00] | abescully: | anyone seen a problem where livetv doesn't work on a given tuner until a show is recorded on that tuner? |
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| [03:07:00] | PatrickDK: | nope |
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| [03:07:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
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| [03:13:00] | Tada21: | well |
| [03:14:00] | Tada21: | on mce when i start t all free to hell till i do alt-tab or minimize |
| [03:14:00] | Tada21: | might be the way its acquiring the signal |
| [03:14:00] | Tada21: | locking ont the receiver |
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| [03:18:00] | Netslayer: | this has been bugging me for years.. why does the commercial skip not have an option to not go beyond 4 minutes.. ie i never have commercials more than 4 minutes and yet it will skip 11 minutes cause it missed the mark |
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| [03:19:00] | Dagmar: | Go to the dev forums and respectfully suggest the feature |
| [03:19:00] | ** xris wonders how many people would get pissed off if he made mythweb not easily installable on a subdirectory ** | |
| [03:20:00] | Chutt: | on a subdirectory? |
| [03:21:00] | xris: | as in example.com/mytheb |
| [03:21:00] | xris: | rather than on its own virtual host |
| [03:21:00] | Chutt: | uh |
| [03:21:00] | Chutt: | i'd think that most people install it like that |
| [03:21:00] | xris: | yeah. annoying. |
| [03:21:00] | xris: | people should use virtual hosts more often |
| [03:22:00] | Lightning: | not everyone has access to a virtual host |
| [03:22:00] | xris: | Lightning: if you're running your own webserver, you can use a virtual host |
| [03:22:00] | xris: | and you need to run your own webserver for mythweb to work |
| [03:22:00] | Lightning: | true, for localhost |
| [03:22:00] | xris: | huh? try /etc/hosts |
| [03:22:00] | xris: | every OS has it.. you can create as many hosts entries as you want without purchasing a domain name. |
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| [03:23:00] | xris: | the virtual host setup has very little to do with domain names. |
| [03:23:00] | Lightning: | i was more thinking if i wanted to drop it onto my web server that is also accessible outside the network, i would want a subdir instead |
| [03:23:00] | xris: | anyway, I won't do it... was just curious. |
| [03:23:00] | Krazylegz: | Lightning: Hey. |
| [03:23:00] | Krazylegz: | Lightning: Guess what I did today. :-) |
| [03:23:00] | Lightning: | due to the remote dns pointing to my server |
| [03:23:00] | xris: | Lightning: and why not a virtual host? |
| [03:23:00] | Lightning: | Krazylegz, moved in? i just got online :) |
| [03:23:00] | Krazylegz: | Yep! Internet/cable tomorrow. |
| [03:24:00] | Lightning: | xris, remote dns giving me a hostname already and the dns not having the option to add a sub host to the domain (so it would resolve to you) |
| [03:24:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, I'm out guys. Later! |
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| [03:25:00] | xris: | Lightning: "remote dns"... can't you get more than one of those? |
| [03:25:00] | Lightning: | mysite.someremotednsplace.com if the place providing dns to me doesnt allow resolving another name undder mysite, i may want to do /myth |
| [03:25:00] | Lightning: | compared to mysitemyth.someremotednsplace.com |
| [03:25:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [03:26:00] | xris: | figured places like that would just let you use whatever IP you'd want for that. |
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| [03:27:00] | Lightning: | i do not know as i run my own dns servers, but i know awhile back a friend had a situation where their "domain" that they rented monthly wouldnt allow a sub area of the domain. just www, mail, ftp |
| [03:27:00] | xris: | oh, SO much work to do on these projects. |
| [03:27:00] | xris: | Lightning: that's lame. |
| [03:27:00] | geoff: | anybody know if danielk is around? |
| [03:27:00] | xris: | geoff: /whois |
| [03:27:00] | Lightning: | i need to purchase hardware to get a myth box setup then do some dev. although i see my patch for the dbsetup hasnt been applied but it is small :P |
| [03:28:00] | Lightning: | xris: you're telling me |
| [03:28:00] | geoff: | xris: yeah, I've never seen him on irc |
| [03:28:00] | geoff: | I was hoping he could help me with valgrind |
| [03:28:00] | xris: | geoff: no clue, then. |
| [03:29:00] | Lightning: | i'm curious, what does it take to get on the myth team for development? |
| [03:29:00] | geoff: | wasn't sure if he had some strange nick or not |
| [03:29:00] | rjune: | Lightning: patches are probably a good start |
| [03:30:00] | Lightning: | rjune, i'm sure i'll do more after i get a box purchased. hoping work will push my promotion thru sooner, will help in the budget |
| [03:30:00] | xris: | Lightning: patches, hanging out here and being helpful.. but mostly patches. |
| [03:30:00] | rjune: | yay, I was right |
| [03:30:00] | Lightning: | i got 1 patch :) |
| [03:30:00] | ** xris took his promotion-without-pay-raise like a man. heh. ** | |
| [03:30:00] | xris: | but only because the promotion came with a minion (and now two) |
| [03:31:00] | rjune: | nice |
| [03:31:00] | rjune: | going for world domination? |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | yeah. |
| [03:31:00] | Lightning: | heh |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | I'll presumably get a raise next year come annual evaluation. |
| [03:31:00] | rjune: | hrm, I dunno if I'll get annual evaluation |
| [03:31:00] | Lightning: | my boss wants to promote me partly due to being too far under what i should be paid, and due to not having time to watch the project and i've been more involved than he has. with the promotion i'll be able to actually give a few orders to other managers |
| [03:32:00] | Lightning: | compared to going thru him |
| [03:32:00] | rjune: | cool, whatcha building? |
| [03:33:00] | Lightning: | rjune: prototype development for medication dispensing |
| [03:33:00] | xris: | sounds helpful |
| [03:34:00] | Lightning: | the company provides cards to pharmacies, who in turn fill them and send them to nursing homes. mts provides cards to 60% of the nursing homes in the US and we are also in the UK. i am on a dev team for automated filling of cards and constant prototypes |
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| [03:34:00] | xris: | cool |
| [03:35:00] | Lightning: | the project going to show thursday that i just finished (been under a time crunch for a month) uses a robotic arm (fanucrobotics.com) to pick and place cassettes for patient specific filling. 5 cards a minute, fully sealed, labeled, ready to go out the door. it is semi-automated (requires an operator) |
| [03:35:00] | xris: | hmm... now I *could* make mythweb into a couple of .php files and put all of the includes in /usr/share/mythweb or something like that. |
| [03:35:00] | Lightning: | the fully could run more (current fully is 8 cards a minute) |
| [03:35:00] | Lightning: | anyways... |
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| [03:40:00] | xris: | yup, I'm definitely a mod_rewrite whore. |
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| [03:40:00] | Lightning: | xris, why do you say that? |
| [03:40:00] | Beirdo: | xris: careful with that |
| [03:40:00] | xris: | Beirdo: why is that? |
| [03:40:00] | xris: | Lightning: because I love it.. want to use it everywhere. |
| [03:40:00] | Beirdo: | some of us are running two different versions for development/production |
| [03:40:00] | Beirdo: | on the same webserver :) |
| [03:41:00] | xris: | Beirdo: oh.. the /usr/share/ thing |
| [03:41:00] | Beirdo: | that could get tricky to maintain with a /usr/share/mythweb thing |
| [03:41:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [03:41:00] | xris: | nah.. I'd make it configurable. |
| [03:41:00] | Beirdo: | of course :) |
| [03:41:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:42:00] | xris: | I'm a security nut these days.. don't want code visible within the web tree itself. |
| [03:42:00] | xris: | and I want to keep THAT as clean as possible. |
| [03:42:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:42:00] | xris: | can probably handle everything for mythweb with one or two scripts... |
| [03:42:00] | Beirdo: | I like the way it is now, personally, nice and contained to one directory |
| [03:43:00] | Beirdo: | but I'm just particular at times :) |
| [03:43:00] | Beirdo: | don't worry about me |
| [03:44:00] | xris: | it should still work that way.. and I may leave it as such. |
| [03:44:00] | xris: | man, I wish I understood php's optimizer... |
| [03:45:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:45:00] | xris: | or how apache caches mod_rewrite, for that matter. |
| [03:45:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [03:45:00] | Chutt: | don't be a security weenie |
| [03:45:00] | Beirdo: | have some more port |
| [03:46:00] | xris: | can't drink.. need to let this "frozen shoulder tea" sit and absorb for awhile. |
| [03:46:00] | xris: | security weenie? |
| [03:46:00] | Beirdo: | awwww |
| [03:47:00] | Beirdo: | no drinking? |
| [03:47:00] | Beirdo: | wow, I haven't had anything to drink since august |
| [03:47:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys – hows it goin – - – still fighting with this nvidia card to display nicely |
| [03:47:00] | Beirdo: | what the hell is up with that? |
| [03:47:00] | abarbaccia: | i already had to install an "additional" wire to get the svideo -> composite conversion to work – but now the image is offcenter by about an inch |
| [03:48:00] | xris: | Beirdo: no drinking for awhile... need to have the tea on an empty stomach |
| [03:48:00] | Beirdo: | awww |
| [03:48:00] | Beirdo: | is it made with real frozen shoulders? |
| [03:49:00] | Beirdo: | abarbaccia, might be because you should have a capacitor in the circuitry. |
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| [03:50:00] | xris: | hope not. |
| [03:50:00] | Beirdo: | it will block the DC portion of the signal |
| [03:50:00] | xris: | but it seems to help fix mine. |
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| [03:50:00] | xris: | shoulder pain is pretty much gone. all in my arm/wrist now. |
| [03:50:00] | abarbaccia: | Beirdo – don't believe so because on just straight svideo (when i get hte grey only output) its off-center too i believe |
| [03:50:00] | Beirdo: | oh good. it's good when the quack medicine works :) |
| [03:50:00] | Beirdo: | abarbaccia, gotcha |
| [03:51:00] | abarbaccia: | lemme switch it back to the grey and test it just to be sure |
| [03:51:00] | abarbaccia: | after the new linux headers download |
| [03:51:00] | ** Beirdo is a cynic today ** | |
| [03:51:00] | xris: | Beirdo: quack medicine? this chinese stuff has been around as LOT longer than the non-quack stuff. |
| [03:52:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [03:52:00] | Beirdo: | I know |
| [03:52:00] | Beirdo: | but I'll still consider it quack medicine. for no particular reason |
| [03:53:00] | Beirdo: | just cuz, I guess :) |
| [03:53:00] | Beirdo: | at least it works, that's always a good thing |
| [03:54:00] | abarbaccia: | Beirdo, its still off center with the black and white output... |
| [03:54:00] | Beirdo: | OK, so it's not that |
| [03:54:00] | Beirdo: | it just likely needs adjustment, dunno |
| [03:54:00] | Beirdo: | I still use ATI card for my output |
| [03:55:00] | Beirdo: | time stretch rules |
| [03:55:00] | abarbaccia: | I know with the sis drivers it was an option called XOffset or something – but nvidia seemed to think it was a good idea to leave those out |
| [03:56:00] | Dagmar: | This is because they now have a gui application for setting it |
| [03:56:00] | Beirdo: | guis suck |
| [03:57:00] | Beirdo: | excuse my grumpiness |
| [03:57:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody know how to make the montior stop turning off? |
| [03:57:00] | abescully: | is there a central repository for lircrc files to use with different remotes? Or is that something everyone tweaks for themselves? |
| [03:57:00] | Beirdo: | xset -dpms |
| [03:57:00] | Beirdo: | I think it is |
| [03:58:00] | shiznix: | abarbaccia: in X, 'man xset' it's the noblank option iirc |
| [03:58:00] | Beirdo: | that might work too |
| [04:03:00] | Lightning: | time for bed, cya |
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| [04:06:00] | _Nero_: | humm.. lets say I am working on an addition to a pice of code for SVN (say the mythgallery plugin file, glsingleview.cpp). Now, someone else commits a change to glsingleview.cpp, before I submit my patch. Can I still submit the patch? Or do I need to update to the new glsingleview, then re-insert my new/modified code? |
| [04:13:00] | Boonie: | dev-: you around? |
| [04:13:00] | _Nero_: | also, can someone tell me exactly what benefit using opengl-vsync gives? |
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| [04:15:00] | Boonie: | I"m having problems with mythtv displaying bad colors when watching tv, people are blue |
| [04:15:00] | Boonie: | I'm using an ati tv wonder card |
| [04:15:00] | Boonie: | any ideas? |
| [04:15:00] | _Nero_: | none here.. positive you aren't watching "the smurfs"? ;) |
| [04:15:00] | Boonie: | lol |
| [04:16:00] | Boonie: | wish it was that easy |
| [04:16:00] | _Nero_: | are you getting blue output everywhere else? or just livetv? |
| [04:16:00] | Boonie: | just in mythtv, if I watch the signal through kdetv the colors are correct |
| [04:17:00] | _Nero_: | Are you using the V4L video adjustments? |
| [04:17:00] | Boonie: | so it's something with myth :-\ |
| [04:17:00] | Boonie: | not sure |
| [04:17:00] | Boonie: | I'm pretty newb to myth and linux |
| [04:18:00] | _Nero_: | start up a live TV viewing |
| [04:18:00] | Boonie: | k |
| [04:19:00] | _Nero_: | then bring up the on screen menu (M on the keyboard) --> Adjust Picture --> Hue |
| [04:19:00] | abescully: | hehe. a brand new PVR-150MCE KIT (with the usb ir transceiver) arrived today to supplement my PVR-500MCE. They all work great! even the USB remote (lirc_mceusb2)! |
| [04:20:00] | ** abescully rejoices ** | |
| [04:23:00] | Boonie: | _Nero_: I have no adjust picture |
| [04:25:00] | _Nero_: | humm.. go into your setup --> TV Settings --> playback , and on the second screen check "Use Xv Picture Controls" |
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| [04:30:00] | Boonie: | _Nero_: you are the man nero |
| [04:30:00] | _Nero_: | fixed it? |
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| [04:30:00] | Boonie: | worked like a charm |
| [04:30:00] | _Nero_: | :) |
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| [04:31:00] | Boonie: | now I just have to get my remote working and I think I"m set |
| [04:31:00] | _Nero_: | I dont envy you.. ;) |
| [04:31:00] | Boonie: | anyone know of any templates for an ati remote wonder? |
| [04:31:00] | _Nero_: | lirc is a nightmare.. |
| [04:31:00] | Boonie: | lol |
| [04:32:00] | Boonie: | remote was recgonized right off the bat |
| [04:32:00] | Boonie: | most of the buttons work |
| [04:32:00] | _Nero_: | nice.. |
| [04:32:00] | Boonie: | I just have to add some |
| [04:32:00] | _Nero_: | I had to make my own transmitter/receiever.. took me weeks to get it all working well.. |
| [04:32:00] | Boonie: | but no idea what I have to modify |
| [04:32:00] | Boonie: | ick |
| [04:33:00] | Boonie: | luckily this was recgonized, plus it's an RF remote not an IR remote :) |
| [04:33:00] | Boonie: | time for some googling :) |
| [04:33:00] | _Nero_: | you should be able to modify ~/.mythtv/lircrc if you are trying to get buttons to correspond to mythtv commands.. |
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| [04:34:00] | Boonie: | k |
| [04:34:00] | Boonie: | let me look for that file |
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| [04:43:00] | nasty_b: | guys this may sound like an incredibly dumb question, but my cable provider has a PVR service which is only offered to digital cable subscribers....so I'm wondering, if i build my own PVR with mythtv, can i use it with just regular cable? |
| [04:43:00] | _Nero_: | nasty_b- you sure can. |
| [04:44:00] | _Nero_: | think of a mythtv box like a really advanced VCR- as long as you have a signal (cable) and a listing of shows (in the US zap2it), you can record shows/use it as a PVR.. |
| [04:44:00] | nasty_b: | k thanks...i'm in canada that wouldnt be a problem would it? |
| [04:45:00] | _Nero_: | I dont think so.. I think zap2it is north america anyway, so it should support canada too.. |
| [04:46:00] | _Nero_: | (and there are other providers for tv listings as well) |
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| [04:47:00] | nasty_b: | ah ok. thanks |
| [04:53:00] | nasty_b: | another question...how would you program the PVR...would i have to use a switch and use my keyboard/mouse/monitor ? |
| [04:54:00] | _Nero_: | depends on how you set it up.. I have a standalone myth box, hooked up directly to my TV. I program it 1) with the remote, 2) via a web browser on another machine. |
| [04:54:00] | pookSter: | Howz everyone tonight? |
| [04:54:00] | _Nero_: | (the lirc project lets you control your mythtv box with a remote control) |
| [04:54:00] | _Nero_: | doing well pookSter. You? |
| [04:54:00] | pookSter: | great |
| [04:55:00] | _Nero_: | thats good to hear. |
| [04:55:00] | nasty_b: | hmm, i'm not familiar with the lirc project or the standalone myth box...I'm assuming i would have to buy that seperately |
| [04:55:00] | pookSter: | Hey Nero..ever heard of someone programming lirc to record a station and also send IR out to an antenna rotor to turn it to the right direction? |
| [04:56:00] | pookSter: | I worded it wrong..but u get the idea |
| [04:56:00] | _Nero_: | nasty_b- by stand-alone myth box, I mean a stand alone computer, that is only for mythtv.. as for lirc- it is open source, so nothing there you have to buy.. |
| [04:57:00] | _Nero_: | (though you may have to buy/build an ir receiver depending on what hardware you go with) |
| [04:57:00] | _Nero_: | pookSter- that I have not hear of, however, I (and many others) use lirc to use ir signals to control a cable/satallite box. |
| [04:57:00] | _Nero_: | not that I have heard of that is.. |
| [04:58:00] | pookSter: | ah, cool, so it should work then |
| [04:58:00] | nasty_b: | ah ok, how do you use a remote control with a computer though? or do they sell that kinda stuff |
| [04:59:00] | _Nero_: | well, lirc doenst really "record a station". lirc is just a piece of software that sits and listens to signals coming from a serial port (or parallel port) ir receiver, or sends signals out an ir transmitter.. |
| [05:00:00] | _Nero_: | nasty_b: its a bit difficutlt.. you buy (or build) a little device that plugs into your serial port. Put that up on top of the computer. Then you can set up lirc to interperate the various signals coming from any remote control (say for the volume + button, or the power button), and then have lirc perform commands on running programs.. |
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| [05:00:00] | nasty_b: | ohhhh ok I get it, thanks |
| [05:01:00] | _Nero_: | So, I have mine set up, so that when I hit the Vol + button on my remote, lirc gets this signal through my ir receiver, says "Ok, Mark just hit the volume + button", and then tells mythtv to turn up the volume a notch.. |
| [05:01:00] | nasty_b: | the standalone myth box will turn up the volume on the tv, or in the recorded programs |
| [05:02:00] | _Nero_: | turns the volume up on the audio out port on the computer.. |
| [05:02:00] | Ryushin: | Are there any other visualize options in mythmusic besides gears? Pressing 4 doesn't give any options. It just make the gears full screen? |
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| [05:02:00] | GeekZoid_: | hi |
| [05:03:00] | GeekZoid_: | does the PVR-150 sometimes get blurred |
| [05:03:00] | GeekZoid_: | for a second |
| [05:03:00] | GeekZoid_: | with mythtv or windows |
| [05:03:00] | _Nero_: | Ryushin- go into utilities/setup --> music settings, and in there you can set the visualization. There are a few: Goom, synestasea or something like that, bumpscope, etc.. |
| [05:03:00] | GeekZoid_: | does any one have a pvr-150 |
| [05:03:00] | Ryushin: | Thanks. |
| [05:04:00] | _Nero_: | Ryushin- it is in the "player settings" under music settings, on the second screen.. if you select the box that now contains "gears" it will tell you the valid plugins. |
| [05:04:00] | Ryushin: | Cool. Thanks. |
| [05:05:00] | _Nero_: | no problem. |
| [05:06:00] | GeekZoid_: | Do the stable plugins work with cvs |
| [05:06:00] | GeekZoid_: | erk work with the syn version |
| [05:07:00] | _Nero_: | GeekZoid_ I would doubt it.. |
| [05:07:00] | GeekZoid_: | are there syn versions of plugins? |
| [05:07:00] | _Nero_: | the plugins are built off the mythtv libraries. |
| [05:07:00] | _Nero_: | yes. |
| [05:07:00] | _Nero_: | I'm sure you could rebuild the stable plugins, and they would work.. |
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| [05:07:00] | _Nero_: | you just need to make sure you build the plugins against the version of libmythtv that you are using. |
| [05:08:00] | _Nero_: | I am running svn right now, all of the plugins, and they ar working great.. |
| [05:08:00] | GeekZoid_: | svn verions or stable |
| [05:08:00] | _Nero_: | svn versions of everything |
| [05:08:00] | taer: | so, from what I've gathered, the only way to record AC3 audio in the US is via HDTV — ATSC. normal cable gets you plain old stero? |
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| [05:09:00] | taer: | even digital cable wont work since you have to capture it via svdeo and composite audio |
| [05:09:00] | taer: | am I correcT? |
| [05:09:00] | GeekZoid_: | nero where do i get the svn plugins |
| [05:09:00] | _Nero_: | GeekZoid_ http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ |
| [05:10:00] | _Nero_: | taer- depends.. dont some digital cable boxes do optical audio out? |
| [05:10:00] | taer: | I have a digital audio out.. |
| [05:10:00] | taer: | on the digital cable box that is |
| [05:10:00] | _Nero_: | Do you have a digital audio in on your mythtv box? |
| [05:10:00] | taer: | and I have the PVR500 and PVR150 |
| [05:10:00] | taer: | not sure on the audio in on the soundcard.. |
| [05:11:00] | GeekZoid_: | does anyone have a pvr150 and have small blurs for a second |
| [05:11:00] | taer: | there is a optical and a coax digital port on the sound card.. |
| [05:11:00] | taer: | guessing its out only unless its configurable. |
| [05:11:00] | taer: | even so, is it possible to make the ahuppauge500 to record the svideo and merge w/ the soundcard input? |
| [05:11:00] | _Nero_: | taer- I am not positive, but I think it can be done via a soundcard that has digital audio in, and merge it with the video input.. |
| [05:12:00] | GeekZoid_: | nero i am running configure svn version |
| [05:12:00] | GeekZoid_: | and im getting this error |
| [05:12:00] | taer: | thats the question I have.. wondering if anyone here has done it. |
| [05:12:00] | GeekZoid_: | cat: /etc//etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory |
| [05:12:00] | taer: | no point in screwing w/ the AC3 out w/out the ability to record it on the inbound. :) |
| [05:12:00] | taer: | snd_intel8x0 is my soundcard. |
| [05:12:00] | _Nero_: | I havent.. but someone may have.. |
| [05:13:00] | _Nero_: | you might want to check the mailing list archives. |
| [05:13:00] | taer: | i did.. |
| [05:13:00] | taer: | mostly lucky people w/ HDTV |
| [05:13:00] | taer: | apparently ASTC has it, or HD digital cable boxes w/ firewire outputs |
| [05:13:00] | _Nero_: | hehe.. yeah.. I wish I had HDTV.. ;) not sure what to tell ya.. I think it can be done, but am not sure how.. (somewhere I read someone did it I think.. lol) |
| [05:14:00] | _Nero_: | GookZoid- what do you mean "running configure svn version"? |
| [05:14:00] | GeekZoid_: | nevermind |
| [05:14:00] | GeekZoid_: | i have to run qmake |
| [05:14:00] | GeekZoid_: | i have a habit of not reading readme files :) |
| [05:14:00] | _Nero_: | hehe |
| [05:14:00] | GeekZoid_: | eek |
| [05:15:00] | GeekZoid_: | its saying missing config.pro |
| [05:15:00] | GeekZoid_: | run configure script |
| [05:15:00] | GeekZoid_: | but the configur script is giving me some wierd error |
| [05:15:00] | GeekZoid_: | cat: /etc//etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory |
| [05:15:00] | GeekZoid_: | what do you think |
| [05:15:00] | GeekZoid_: | any ideas nero? |
| [05:16:00] | _Nero_: | humm.. |
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| [05:16:00] | ** GeekZoid_ sighs ** | |
| [05:16:00] | _Nero_: | so you check out mythtv, then cd to the mythtv directory, and run ./configure |
| [05:16:00] | _Nero_: | and it gives you that error? |
| [05:16:00] | GeekZoid_: | no |
| [05:16:00] | GeekZoid_: | i checkout mythtv plugnis |
| [05:16:00] | GeekZoid_: | my mythtv compiled without a problem |
| [05:17:00] | GeekZoid_: | i compiled that about a week ago |
| [05:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | So are you running the svn version of mythtv ? |
| [05:17:00] | GeekZoid_: | yu[p |
| [05:17:00] | GeekZoid_: | yup. i want to try the plugins now |
| [05:17:00] | _Nero_: | Geekzoid_ I would update your mythtv to the latest svn before trying to build the plugins.. |
| [05:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's a strange error since "ld.so.conf.d" doesn't exist in either configure for mythtv or the plugins |
| [05:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | and I know that the MYTH_BINARY_VERSION changed in the last week or so |
| [05:18:00] | GeekZoid_: | hmm |
| [05:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | so they likely wouldn't be compatible |
| [05:18:00] | GeekZoid_: | ok |
| [05:18:00] | GeekZoid_: | well i'll update the newest mythtv version |
| [05:18:00] | GeekZoid_: | but what do i do about that /etc//etc/ld.so.conf.d problem |
| [05:18:00] | ** GreyFoxx is doing the same right now ** | |
| [05:18:00] | ** _Nero_ is doing the same now as well ** | |
| [05:18:00] | _Nero_: | GeekZoid- maybe it will go away?? |
| [05:18:00] | GeekZoid_: | withthe new version? |
| [05:19:00] | _Nero_: | dunno.. it might.. |
| [05:19:00] | ** GeekZoid_ sighs. ** | |
| [05:19:00] | GeekZoid_: | well let me know if you guy shave problems :) |
| [05:19:00] | GeekZoid_: | does it change the setting |
| [05:19:00] | GeekZoid_: | in the database :p |
| [05:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm curious about EXACTLY where that error comes from since there is no string "ld.so.conf.d" in the configure script |
| [05:19:00] | GeekZoid_: | as soon as i run ./configure |
| [05:19:00] | GeekZoid_: | i have gcc 4.0.2 |
| [05:19:00] | _Nero_: | nope.. just finished compiling both the binary, and the plugins.. |
| [05:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | there was issues previously with using gcc 4.0, but those should all be taken care of now |
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| [05:20:00] | _Nero_: | yeah.. I just compiled using 4.0.1 |
| [05:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use 3.3.4 :) |
| [05:21:00] | GeekZoid_: | crap its doing that on mine |
| [05:21:00] | GeekZoid_: | still |
| [05:21:00] | GeekZoid_: | that stupid ld.so.conf.d message |
| [05:21:00] | _Nero_: | for the plugins, or the binary? |
| [05:21:00] | GeekZoid_: | both |
| [05:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well that error must be coming from something external the configure script is calling |
| [05:21:00] | PrYgMMa: | my device manager sees and identifies my tvinput card. but it does nto assign it to a device... anyone got any ideas? |
| [05:21:00] | _Nero_: | can you pastebin the exact output (leading up to it and all?) |
| [05:22:00] | GeekZoid_: | thre is none leading to it |
| [05:22:00] | GeekZoid_: | its compiling now |
| [05:22:00] | GeekZoid_: | eventhought he error.. |
| [05:23:00] | GeekZoid_: | ok i'll paste it back to pastebin |
| [05:23:00] | GeekZoid_: | whats the website for pastebin? |
| [05:23:00] | _Nero_: | pastebin.com |
| [05:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | and pastebin.ca |
| [05:23:00] | Ryushin: | Is there a program that mythtv likes to use to download the cover art? |
| [05:23:00] | GeekZoid_: | . /tmp/ffmpeg-conf-4134-15160–22145.c:1:21: error: altivec.h: No such file or directory |
| [05:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | .ca tends to be faster and more stable in my experience |
| [05:23:00] | GeekZoid_: | is that a dangerous error? |
| [05:24:00] | _Nero_: | I wouldnt call it dangerous.. its not going to try to kill you or anything.. |
| [05:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ryushin: For items in mythvideo? That's done through a call to a perl script. imdb.pl |
| [05:24:00] | GeekZoid_: | lol i mean will it make it so it doesnt work it hink i compiled it last time and had that error |
| [05:24:00] | Ryushin: | More like mythmusic. |
| [05:24:00] | _Nero_: | Ryushin- for music? |
| [05:24:00] | Ryushin: | Yea. |
| [05:24:00] | Dagmar: | Dude if you don't have an altivec chip, use your head before you go turning on configure options. *sigh* |
| [05:24:00] | _Nero_: | I used some python program.. lemme see if I can remember what it was called.. did a pretty good job.. |
| [05:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ahhh, not sure there. I don't really use myth music. My GF is the only one that does |
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| [05:25:00] | Dagmar: | If you build with --enable-every-argument-under-the-sun you should not be suprised when the result is a failed build. |
| [05:26:00] | _Nero_: | Ryushin- this is the program I used.. it did a pretty good job: http://freshmeat.net/projects/albumart/?branc . . . se_id=198882 |
| [05:26:00] | ** GeekZoid_ ponders ** | |
| [05:26:00] | GeekZoid_: | should i install flac :) |
| [05:27:00] | GeekZoid_: | whats so big about mythmusic? |
| [05:28:00] | _Nero_: | What do you mean so big? |
| [05:28:00] | GeekZoid_: | well why would i use it over amarok? |
| [05:28:00] | _Nero_: | I dont know.. |
| [05:28:00] | GeekZoid_: | OH those errors for some reason dont stopit from making. i can actually still compile |
| [05:28:00] | GeekZoid_: | _Nero_: do you have a PVR-150 |
| [05:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's an integrated part of myth, which is generally desirable when making an integrated system |
| [05:28:00] | _Nero_: | I use it because it works directly from the frontend, and I can use my remote to control it.. |
| [05:28:00] | _Nero_: | Nope.. I have a PVR-250.. |
| [05:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | I rarely play music, expect in the car or at the gym so I never use it. By the GF uses it all the time |
| [05:29:00] | GeekZoid_: | do you have small blurs.. |
| [05:29:00] | _Nero_: | Nope.. no small blurs.. |
| [05:29:00] | ** GeekZoid_ gets the odd blur ** | |
| [05:29:00] | GeekZoid_: | wondering if is hould return my tv tuner card |
| [05:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | GeekZoid_: Mostly during movement ? |
| [05:30:00] | GeekZoid_: | ya |
| [05:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Try enabling Deinterlacing |
| [05:30:00] | GeekZoid_: | how? |
| [05:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | in the frontend tv playback settings |
| [05:30:00] | GeekZoid_: | ok |
| [05:33:00] | GeekZoid_: | greyfox which algorithm? |
| [05:33:00] | GeekZoid_: | kernel? |
| [05:33:00] | _Nero_: | play with them.. |
| [05:33:00] | _Nero_: | see which one you like best. |
| [05:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use Kernel |
| [05:34:00] | _Nero_: | GreFoxx- I am thinking Coke or Sprite.. which one should I do? ;) |
| [05:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sprite. |
| [05:34:00] | GeekZoid_: | grr "_ |
| [05:34:00] | GeekZoid_: | :) |
| [05:34:00] | ** GeekZoid_ notices the joke ** | |
| [05:34:00] | GeekZoid_: | :) |
| [05:34:00] | _Nero_: | hehe.. few notice my jokes.. |
| [05:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Heh |
| [05:35:00] | ** GreyFoxx leaves the compile to finish and goes to bed ** | |
| [05:36:00] | ** GeekZoid_ wonders if he can compile the plugins the same time as the binary ** | |
| [05:36:00] | _Nero_: | nope. |
| [05:36:00] | GeekZoid_: | bah that sucks |
| [05:36:00] | _Nero_: | the plugins need the libraries that compile from the binary.. |
| [05:36:00] | GeekZoid_: | hmm |
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| [05:37:00] | ** GeekZoid_ hopes this doesnt mess his mythtv up ** | |
| [05:37:00] | GeekZoid_: | i think the delaced did the trick ;) |
| [05:39:00] | GeekZoid_: | hey anyone using the newest release for svn? |
| [05:39:00] | GeekZoid_: | anyone having problems with it? |
| [05:39:00] | _Nero_: | yes, and no |
| [05:39:00] | GeekZoid_: | nero how do you mena |
| [05:39:00] | _Nero_: | mena? |
| [05:39:00] | GeekZoid_: | lol MAEN |
| [05:39:00] | GeekZoid_: | err MEAN even |
| [05:40:00] | _Nero_: | I mena, yes I am using the latest svn, and no, no problems as of yet. |
| [05:40:00] | GeekZoid_: | oh ok :) |
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| [05:41:00] | GeekZoid_: | explain why irxevent work for all my windows :p |
| [05:41:00] | GeekZoid_: | when i only want my tv to have access to my remote ocontrol :() |
| [05:42:00] | _Nero_: | because that is the way irxevent works? You should be able to use the native mythtv lirc controls.. |
| [05:42:00] | GeekZoid_: | hmm |
| [05:42:00] | GeekZoid_: | does the window have to be in the foreground? |
| [05:43:00] | GeekZoid_: | _Nero_: I didnt know mythtv had native controls i followed the instructions on using irxevent |
| [05:43:00] | _Nero_: | the ~/.mythtv/lircrc is what you edit for native mythtv.. |
| [05:43:00] | _Nero_: | lirc |
| [05:43:00] | GeekZoid_: | oh |
| [05:43:00] | GeekZoid_: | so it doesnt need irxevent |
| [05:43:00] | GeekZoid_: | crap |
| [05:43:00] | GeekZoid_: | no wonder why my lirc crashes then :) |
| [05:43:00] | _Nero_: | nope.. |
| [05:44:00] | _Nero_: | still shouldn't crash.. |
| [05:44:00] | GeekZoid_: | are you sure? |
| [05:44:00] | GeekZoid_: | my mythtv isnt working now with the remote |
| [05:44:00] | _Nero_: | as I said- you can set it up to go either way.. |
| [05:45:00] | GeekZoid_: | hmm. |
| [05:45:00] | ** GeekZoid_ will figure it out later ** | |
| [05:45:00] | _Nero_: | I need to get some sleep.. |
| [05:45:00] | GeekZoid_: | maybe cuz i dont have a .mythtv |
| [05:45:00] | _Nero_: | hope you get it all working.. :) |
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| [05:50:00] | GeekZoid_: | crap |
| [05:50:00] | GeekZoid_: | my monitor is goign crazy |
| [05:50:00] | GeekZoid_: | with delacing |
| [05:50:00] | GeekZoid_: | and it wont go back to normal |
| [05:50:00] | GeekZoid_: | crap |
| [05:51:00] | GeekZoid_: | what the heck was taht |
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| [05:53:00] | Dagmar: | my bad |
| [05:53:00] | GeekZoid_: | that was the wierdest thing |
| [05:53:00] | GeekZoid_: | my whole x windows was squggling |
| [05:53:00] | GeekZoid_: | when delacing kernel option |
| [05:53:00] | GeekZoid_: | but it was fine for 20 mins |
| [05:53:00] | GeekZoid_: | and just started |
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| [06:04:00] | GeekZoid_: | hi |
| [06:04:00] | GeekZoid_: | what do i need in order to get transcode adn vcd support in mythtvd |
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| [06:04:00] | GeekZoid_: | whatdo i need in orderto get transcode adn vcd support in mythdvd? |
| [06:12:00] | xris: | I don't think mythdvd does vcd's |
| [06:13:00] | xris: | or for playback? |
| [06:14:00] | GeekZoid_: | shrug for plugins |
| [06:15:00] | GeekZoid_: | its saying transcode and vcd will not be incldued |
| [06:16:00] | ** xris cranks up the awesome music that he can't purchase in the US. ** | |
| [06:16:00] | GeekZoid_: | this sucks |
| [06:16:00] | ** xris bemoans the RIAA's distribution patterns. ** | |
| [06:16:00] | GeekZoid_: | im having major problems |
| [06:17:00] | xris: | GeekZoid_: do you have transcode installed? |
| [06:17:00] | GeekZoid_: | everythign was working fine until i enabled kernel delacing |
| [06:17:00] | GeekZoid_: | yup |
| [06:17:00] | GeekZoid_: | and then i enabled it |
| [06:17:00] | GeekZoid_: | and it worked great for 20 mins |
| [06:17:00] | GeekZoid_: | then my whole monitor started squiggl;ing |
| [06:17:00] | GeekZoid_: | and now mythtv keeps goign all wierd |
| [06:17:00] | GeekZoid_: | maybe it doesnt look as good cuz its the new svn version ? |
| [06:17:00] | GeekZoid_: | :S |
| [06:18:00] | xris: | shouldn't matter |
| [06:18:00] | xris: | svn is usually better |
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| [06:20:00] | GeekZoid_: | and its worse using libmpeg |
| [06:21:00] | univac: | Does anyone know if there's an easy way (on Linux) to cut commercials from MPEG-2 (PVR-250) without transcoding? It would be ideal if it used the edit decisions in filemarkup. |
| [06:24:00] | Dagmar: | mpeg2 to mpeg2 transcoding |
| [06:25:00] | univac: | does it really need to be transcoded? I can split the files up with mencoder (no transcoding) but it's a PITA. |
| [06:26:00] | Dagmar: | Do you have another word for "decoding and recoding for the same format"? |
| [06:26:00] | univac: | partial copy? |
| [06:27:00] | Dagmar: | transcode can cut commercials without having to reencode the whole thing |
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| [06:27:00] | xris: | univac: nuvexport |
| [06:27:00] | prologic: | Do I need mysql for just the mythtv-frontnend ? |
| [06:27:00] | xris: | prologic: yes |
| [06:27:00] | prologic: | darn |
| [06:27:00] | xris: | there is no "just the frontend" |
| [06:27:00] | prologic: | and it needs to connect to the remote mythtv backend mysql server ? |
| [06:27:00] | Dagmar: | xris: So the frontend and the backend both talk to the mysql server then? |
| [06:27:00] | Dagmar: | That's good to know baout |
| [06:27:00] | xris: | prologic: needs to connect to both. |
| [06:27:00] | xris: | Dagmar: yes |
| [06:27:00] | xris: | at least for now |
| [06:27:00] | Dagmar: | Thanks |
| [06:28:00] | prologic: | k ta |
| [06:28:00] | univac: | thanks xris. i tried that before, but it always wanted to transcode. Maybe i'm missing something in the config? |
| [06:28:00] | xris: | Isaac's working on an internal database to remove the mysql dependency, but it's just a concept at the moment. |
| [06:28:00] | xris: | univac: mpeg2cut option |
| [06:28:00] | univac: | ok xris, i'll go give it a whirl. thx |
| [06:28:00] | xris: | nothing else will give you clean cuts. it's currently a HUGE pain in the a$$. |
| [06:29:00] | xris: | Beirdo's working on extracting the necessary code from avidemux and LVE, but until that happens, we're stuck. |
| [06:29:00] | xris: | People are also working on getting lossless mpeg2 cutting put into mythtv itself. |
| [06:29:00] | prologic: | why doesn't he use sqlite ? |
| [06:29:00] | prologic: | embedded, fast and simple |
| [06:29:00] | univac: | that would be outstanding. then it's a simple matter to make a dvd. |
| [06:29:00] | xris: | prologic: that's the future solution. |
| [06:29:00] | prologic: | k |
| [06:30:00] | xris: | sqlite combined with caching and updates to the myth protocol to allow queries to be passed. |
| [06:30:00] | prologic: | yup |
| [06:30:00] | prologic: | sounds nice |
| [06:30:00] | xris: | can't believe I just offered a band full cd cover price to buy mp3's from them.... sucks they'll probably say no. |
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| [06:32:00] | Dagmar: | Then they're morons and you shouldn't worry about listening to them |
| [06:32:00] | fryfrog: | why not buy the cd? |
| [06:32:00] | fryfrog: | and make the mp3s yosef? |
| [06:32:00] | Dagmar: | There's no way they get more than a buck from the normal CD |
| [06:32:00] | xris: | fryfrog: because it's 15 euros for the cd, and another 10 to get it shipped to the US |
| [06:32:00] | fryfrog: | blech |
| [06:33:00] | xris: | ie. not available here. |
| [06:33:00] | xris: | http://urbantrad.com |
| [06:33:00] | xris: | awesome music |
| [06:33:00] | fryfrog: | what's a pirates favorite letter? |
| [06:33:00] | xris: | C for cannon |
| [06:33:00] | fryfrog: | ARRRRRRRRRRR! |
| [06:34:00] | xris: | actually, my pirate friend (yes, I have a friend who's a real pirate) probably prefers S for sex (or sado-massochism) |
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| [06:35:00] | ** xris doesn't like the aarrrrrr(gh) joke much. ** | |
| [06:36:00] | ** xris blinks.. kormoc isn't here?!? ** | |
| [06:36:00] | xris: | was going to have kormoc verify that I really do have a pirate friend. |
| [06:36:00] | xris: | with a boat and a cannon and everything. |
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| [06:37:00] | fryfrog: | ARRRRRRRR! |
| [06:39:00] | ** xris fires the cannon at fryfrog. ** | |
| [06:44:00] | xris: | ooh, I can remove the db server config from the config file.... |
| [06:44:00] | grnfvr: | does anybody know which cable companies use the dct6200 or the sa3250 |
| [06:46:00] | GeekZoid_: | hi im trying to compile mythplugins |
| [06:46:00] | GeekZoid_: | adn its saying transcode and vcd will nto be included |
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| [06:46:00] | GeekZoid_: | but i have it on my system what could be the problem |
| [06:47:00] | laga: | GeekZoid_: you probably need the related -dev packages |
| [06:48:00] | GeekZoid_: | hrm where 'm i gunna find those :p |
| [06:49:00] | laga: | get them from your distro |
| [06:50:00] | xris: | GeekZoid_: -devel packages? |
| [06:50:00] | GeekZoid_: | im looking for it on the transcode site cant find it |
| [06:51:00] | xris: | GeekZoid_: use packages |
| [06:51:00] | GeekZoid_: | i cant |
| [06:51:00] | xris: | the -devel stuff will be included in the main transcode install already (-devel is just the header files used to compile things against transcode) |
| [06:51:00] | xris: | why can't use packages? |
| [06:51:00] | GeekZoid_: | there is none for suse |
| [06:51:00] | GeekZoid_: | xris: i compiled transcode from source |
| [06:51:00] | xris: | atrpms shoudl work fine for suse |
| [06:51:00] | GeekZoid_: | but i stillg et that messsage |
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| [06:54:00] | hadees: | does anyone use torrentocracy? do you know if the torrents are downloaded on the frontend or the backend |
| [06:54:00] | xris: | hadees: verboten topic |
| [06:54:00] | hadees: | you can't talk about torrentocracy? |
| [06:54:00] | xris: | no |
| [06:55:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [06:55:00] | mchou: | since when did myth do torrent? |
| [06:55:00] | xris: | hadees: search the logs for history about the subject... |
| [06:55:00] | hadees: | hmm well that sucks, how am i supposed to watch systm if i can't download it via a torrent |
| [06:55:00] | GeekZoid_: | this sucks |
| [06:55:00] | GeekZoid_: | i cant get transcode to work with mythtv |
| [06:55:00] | xris: | hadees: do what you want. just don't ask about it here. |
| [06:55:00] | xris: | GeekZoid_: different distro with better package support, maybe? |
| [06:55:00] | hadees: | xris, i knew that it was legal issues but now with iptv shows i thought it might be diffrent |
| [06:56:00] | hadees: | but your the boss |
| [06:56:00] | mchou: | hadees: iptv?? where? |
| [06:56:00] | xris: | hadees: it's that, but it's also that isaac just doesn't want to support third-party plugins. it has its own list, etc. |
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| [06:56:00] | hadees: | mchou, http://revision3.com/systm/ |
| [06:57:00] | hadees: | mchou, http://revision3.com/ |
| [06:57:00] | hadees: | there are lots of others too |
| [06:58:00] | mchou: | hadees: ok. |
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| [06:58:00] | mchou: | but somehow I think iptv is like itv, and gonna fly :) |
| [06:58:00] | mchou: | s/and/aint |
| [06:59:00] | hadees: | mchou, mabey but right now it is free content i want to watch, and it is getting so annoying to have to monitor it myself and then download it etc |
| [07:00:00] | mchou: | bah :) |
| [07:00:00] | hadees: | i need a computer to do it or possibly a robot |
| [07:00:00] | mchou: | hadees: install rss newsticker and be done with it. |
| [07:00:00] | xris: | iptv isn't necessarily free, anyway. |
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| [07:01:00] | mchou: | yeah, that too. |
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| [07:01:00] | hadees: | mchou, you still have to click on it and download it, an automation would be better |
| [07:01:00] | xris: | not even necessarily downloadable. |
| [07:01:00] | mchou: | hadees: huh??? |
| [07:01:00] | xris: | hadees: automated wget? |
| [07:01:00] | mchou: | hadees: how is that any different in myth? |
| [07:01:00] | hadees: | xris, some of the smaller sites use torrents |
| [07:02:00] | mchou: | gotta hit "enter" in myth too. |
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| [07:02:00] | hadees: | mchou, yeah but it isn't already there you have to wait to get it |
| [07:02:00] | hadees: | I would like to just have it predownload it |
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| [07:03:00] | xris: | hadees: um, wget to the torrent file, and send it to a btlaunchmanycurses.py |
| [07:03:00] | xris: | it'll automatically download any torrent you put in its directory |
| [07:03:00] | mchou: | yeah.... |
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| [07:03:00] | mchou: | what's the big dealio? |
| [07:04:00] | hadees: | i would like it to have a little more function. Like doing regex against rss and also moving to diffrent dirs based on the regex, i guess i could just write a bash script |
| [07:05:00] | hadees: | or perl |
| [07:05:00] | Dagmar: | Gotcher little long sleeved dinner jacket all ready do ya? |
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| [07:05:00] | grnfvr: | if you use the firewire off a dct6200 you are offloading the compression to the set-top box right? |
| [07:06:00] | Dagmar: | Perhaps a handful of brightly colored anti-psychotics would help |
| [07:06:00] | mchou: | grnfvr: offloading? |
| [07:06:00] | Dagmar: | grnfvr: It comes from the headend compressed, dude. |
| [07:06:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [07:06:00] | grnfvr: | right, but you decompress in software on the local mythtv box right? |
| [07:07:00] | Dagmar: | grnfvr: Yeah, generally you do need to decompress to play it |
| [07:07:00] | grnfvr: | im just getting an idea what cpu requirements i would need if i went the firewire set top box route |
| [07:07:00] | Dagmar: | 2Ghz |
| [07:07:00] | Dagmar: | EVeryone who's done it has said just the sheer volume of stuff coming over the firewire port can make the machine work hard |
| [07:08:00] | mchou: | bah |
| [07:08:00] | grnfvr: | anyone done it with a mac mini yet? |
| [07:08:00] | Dagmar: | hah |
| [07:08:00] | mchou: | lol, forget about it |
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| [07:08:00] | mchou: | not enough juice |
| [07:09:00] | Dagmar: | That would be like refilling your zippo by taking it to the pump at the gas station and giving it a little squirt |
| [07:09:00] | xris: | Dagmar: 2Ghz to play a recorded stream. says nothing about recording and playing back at the same time... |
| [07:09:00] | mchou: | haha, sipping from the fire hose? |
| [07:09:00] | Dagmar: | I have this vision of a mac mini snapping off hte end of the firewire cable and zooming around the room leaving little sparks in the air |
| [07:10:00] | xris: | though I can watch live hdtv on my 2.4G machine via my air2pc with no trouble (granted, it's only outputting at 800x600) |
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| [07:10:00] | mchou: | that's all you gonna get with fw anyways on no 5c platform :) |
| [07:10:00] | mchou: | s/no// |
| [07:11:00] | mchou: | s/no/non |
| [07:12:00] | grnfvr: | 800.600 is a far cry from 1080 |
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| [07:12:00] | xris: | grnfvr: yes. still has to decode the 1080i stream, though. |
| [07:12:00] | grnfvr: | i like the fleibility a mythtv system would give me |
| [07:12:00] | grnfvr: | i just want it in a small pretty box |
| [07:12:00] | grnfvr: | don't think i can do that |
| [07:12:00] | xris: | I don't have an hd capable tv, so no point in turning up the res |
| [07:12:00] | mchou: | forget about 1080 if you wanna use firewire w/myth |
| [07:12:00] | xris: | I can play full 1080i on my dual 1900+ athlon MP system at nice -0 |
| [07:13:00] | mchou: | aint gonna happen |
| [07:13:00] | xris: | grnfvr: silverstone lc-11 |
| [07:13:00] | grnfvr: | i knew there had to be something like that |
| [07:14:00] | GeekZoid_: | jo |
| [07:14:00] | GeekZoid_: | hi where is the myth transcoding daemon |
| [07:14:00] | GeekZoid_: | or what do i run |
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| [07:14:00] | grnfvr: | ok, so obviously theres not a lot of 1080 programming out there right now, but say i get the tv that will do it and eventually there will be more 1080 programming, you are saying myth just can't keep up? |
| [07:15:00] | mchou: | grnfvr: no |
| [07:15:00] | mchou: | firewire is encrypted at high res |
| [07:15:00] | Dagmar: | Generally, I prefer *not* to spend twice the money for hardware I won't be able to use for a year or ore |
| [07:15:00] | ** GeekZoid_ got it workign woo hoo ** | |
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| [07:15:00] | Dagmar: | encrypted what? |
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| [07:16:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: look up 5C |
| [07:16:00] | mchou: | in google |
| [07:16:00] | Dagmar: | The two guys I know here didn't say anything about it being encrypted coming out of the cablebox |
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| [07:16:00] | grnfvr: | dagmar, which are you saying will be obsolete in a year or two? |
| [07:16:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: yeah, but they aint getting 1080i, that's for sure |
| [07:16:00] | Dagmar: | grnfvr: Read again. |
| [07:17:00] | gilespatrick: | does anyone know if the hauppage pvr-150 mce is supportedin the newest builds of myth? |
| [07:17:00] | mchou: | gilespatrick: that's old news |
| [07:17:00] | mchou: | gilespatrick: ancient history |
| [07:17:00] | Dagmar: | grnfvr: To restate, I don't see the point in paying an asston for a television I can't yet use fully. |
| [07:17:00] | grnfvr: | ah |
| [07:17:00] | gilespatrick: | does it support the controller too? |
| [07:17:00] | Dagmar: | ...especially since prices always go *down* over time. You're not getting a discount for buying early, you know... |
| [07:17:00] | GeekZoid_: | hi dos anyone habve the ripping of isos workign |
| [07:18:00] | GeekZoid_: | nevermind i see why its not working |
| [07:18:00] | grnfvr: | yeah, i am very interested figuring out just how much 1080 is available, but tat the same time, you can get 1080 today |
| [07:18:00] | grnfvr: | and tvs do last longer on the electronics timeline |
| [07:18:00] | grnfvr: | than say laptops |
| [07:18:00] | Dagmar: | There's less than two dozen hi-def channels (that anyone would watch) on Comcast Digital here |
| [07:19:00] | Dagmar: | There's mostly 1080p available on some DVDs |
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| [07:21:00] | grnfvr: | don't forget the xbox |
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| [07:23:00] | Dagmar: | F**k microsoft |
| [07:23:00] | gilespatrick: | so does anyone know if the pvr-150 mce controller is working? |
| [07:24:00] | Dagmar: | You mean the remote control? |
| [07:24:00] | gilespatrick: | yup |
| [07:24:00] | Dagmar: | It works fine. |
| [07:24:00] | gilespatrick: | sweet. thanks a ton |
| [07:24:00] | GeekZoid_: | hi all |
| [07:25:00] | grnfvr: | is dcompression always done at the frontend, can it be uncompressed on the backend b4 sending forward? |
| [07:25:00] | GeekZoid_: | does anyoen nkow if the menu rips |
| [07:25:00] | GeekZoid_: | with mythtv-plugin |
| [07:25:00] | GeekZoid_: | with dvd rips |
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| [07:30:00] | Rhamphoryncus: | It seems my cable provider has rearranged some channels, but not only that they changed the lineup name in zap2it. I've changed to the correct name in my zap2it account but I can't get mythtv to switch over. How do I do that? |
| [07:30:00] | Rhamphoryncus: | I've already tried mythfilldatabase |
| [07:31:00] | updatelee: | grnfvr: allways decompressed on the frontend, why ? |
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| [07:39:00] | Rhamphoryncus: | hrm. No effect from --do_channel_updates, --refresh-today, or --manual either |
| [07:39:00] | xris: | Rhamphoryncus: probably easiest to just rerun mythtv-setup and wipe the channel info |
| [07:40:00] | Dagmar: | I'm with xris on that |
| [07:41:00] | Rhamphoryncus: | heh. Now mythfilldatabase reports "There are no channel sources defined, did you run the setup program?" :) |
| [07:44:00] | Rhamphoryncus: | I think I've got it though |
| [07:45:00] | ** Rhamphoryncus really wishes the mouse worked ** | |
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| [07:46:00] | Dagmar: | Rhamphoryncus: Turn off mouse-pointer hiding. |
| [07:46:00] | Rhamphoryncus: | Dagmar: iirc, that puts it on continuously, which is worse |
| [07:46:00] | Dagmar: | ...although it won't help all that much, you'll be able to see what you're trying to click on. |
| [07:46:00] | Dagmar: | It does. |
| [07:46:00] | Rhamphoryncus: | and yeah, I don't recall it actually being able to click on everything anyway |
| [07:50:00] | Rhamphoryncus: | aaaand now I've got no channels at all |
| [07:53:00] | Rhamphoryncus: | ahhh fixed :) |
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| [08:25:00] | xris: | ok, one semi-major mythweb commit |
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| [08:26:00] | prologic: | Does mythtv automatically update it's tv guide ? If so, how often ? |
| [08:26:00] | prologic: | And how would one force it to update manually ? |
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| [12:04:00] | Bricktop: | What can I do, if with XvMC ver 1.0 and "XvMC found and using VLD surface" |
| [12:04:00] | Bricktop: | The video in full screen mode flickers |
| [12:04:00] | Bricktop: | ? |
| [12:06:00] | juski: | Bricktop: have you been following any of the EPIA linux how-to guides? |
| [12:08:00] | Bricktop: | just followed the instructions on unichrome project site |
| [12:08:00] | Bricktop: | but i am not using epia, i am just using the k8m800 chip :) |
| [12:08:00] | juski: | ah |
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| [12:09:00] | Bricktop: | The wierd thing is that, the flickers begins when I do full screen |
| [12:09:00] | Bricktop: | if theres a window arround it, then no flicker |
| [12:10:00] | Bricktop: | The normal Xv driver(witout Vld interface) does that too :) |
| [12:13:00] | Bricktop: | I want to search the mail list, but i don't know how to call it :( flicer, shutter, how should i call it? |
| [12:13:00] | juski: | just search for driver problem ;) |
| [12:13:00] | juski: | I doubt there's much about it in the mythtv list |
| [12:14:00] | Bricktop: | I'm quite sure, mythtv mailing list is more active then the unichrome and alsa mailing lists combined :) |
| [12:15:00] | juski: | I just read something about the driver possibly not being too happy with xfree86... maybe it's better with xorg |
| [12:15:00] | Bricktop: | i am using xorg :) |
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| [12:59:00] | Bricktop: | I installed MythDVD plugin, but I'm not finding the settings menu for it :( |
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| [13:10:00] | juski: | Bricktop: did you install mythvideo, and also did you compile mythtv with dvd support? |
| [13:10:00] | Bricktop: | I installed only mythdvd |
| [13:11:00] | Bricktop: | I have a new menu "Optical" |
| [13:11:00] | Bricktop: | but no settings |
| [13:12:00] | juski: | Bricktop: in most themes the settings for mythdvd etc are under utils/setup |
| [13:12:00] | Bricktop: | I don't have the prequest to install everything :D, will add later |
| [13:13:00] | Bricktop: | Utillities / Setup |
| [13:14:00] | Bricktop: | I am using G.U.N.T |
| [13:14:00] | Bricktop: | didn't installed the themes yes :D |
| [13:14:00] | Bricktop: | just installed it yesterday |
| [13:14:00] | juski: | is there any point in any of this if the video driver iss borked? |
| [13:14:00] | Bricktop: | Before that i was using FC4, with axel rpms |
| [13:15:00] | Bricktop: | Xine with DVD works just fine |
| [13:15:00] | Bricktop: | And I believe the video will get better, with some help in mailing list and IRC |
| [13:16:00] | Bricktop: | the only place where I have problem with video is with MPEG2 captured video, and only in full screen mode |
| [13:16:00] | Bricktop: | I am going to eat something, and will get back |
| [13:16:00] | Bricktop: | :D |
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| [13:17:00] | Dagmar: | Oh hey, use question... If you've installed MythTV with ivtv support and then you later *remove* the ivtv driver and are then using a card that doesn't require it (bttv), is MythTV still going to work? |
| [13:18:00] | Dagmar: | I'm trying to make sure I can get away with just building *one* set of binary packages that have ivtv support, but that will work without ivtv being installed (provided you don't actually *need* ivtv for one's tuner card). |
| [13:18:00] | whyz: | ohoy.. it was a long time i did this, so i have forgotten: how do i add channels to mythtv? |
| [13:20:00] | juski: | does nobody rtfm anymore? |
| [13:20:00] | whyz: | juski, i'm asking coz i have information about the existing channel which i cannot remember ever having put in the channel editor |
| [13:21:00] | whyz: | so, adding the new channels and running mythfilldatabase didn't do anything |
| [13:21:00] | juski: | whyz: what kind of setup is this? |
| [13:21:00] | whyz: | a pvr350 |
| [13:21:00] | juski: | I mean – you on zap2it or whatever? |
| [13:21:00] | whyz: | xmltv.. if that's what you were asking :) |
| [13:22:00] | juski: | xmltv doesn't add channels as far as I know |
| [13:22:00] | juski: | ahhh hang on a sec... |
| [13:23:00] | juski: | if you're using xmltv to do EPG grabbing and you add a channel after you first set up mythtv, using the channel editor in mythtv-setup... |
| [13:25:00] | juski: | you either need to configure the xmltv grabber again, making sure you include all the channels you want, or just edit the <videosource>.xmltv file yourself |
| [13:25:00] | whyz: | okidoki, thanks |
| [13:26:00] | juski: | whyz: just out of interest, where do you live? |
| [13:26:00] | whyz: | sweden |
| [13:27:00] | juski: | here in the UK we've recently had a few new channels launch |
| [13:27:00] | whyz: | same here, it seems :) |
| [13:28:00] | juski: | actually this brings me to a question I want to ask: |
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| [13:30:00] | juski: | I'm on the cusp of buying a PVR150 card so I can record my cable box.. but there are some 300 or so channels... is there any plan in the pipeline to incorporate some kind of grouping of channels? |
| [13:32:00] | juski: | ahh ticket 199 is pretty much about the very same thing :) |
| [13:35:00] | Dagmar: | You can do what I did... |
| [13:35:00] | Dagmar: | Tell it not to show you any channels not flagged as your favorites. ;) |
| [13:35:00] | Dagmar: | Suddenly I have only fifteen channels to deal with, two of which are news, and ten more of which I hardly ever watch anyway. =) |
| [13:36:00] | bioart: | can't you just not tell myth about the channels you don't care about? |
| [13:36:00] | Dagmar: | You can delete them in mythtv-setup |
| [13:36:00] | juski: | I'd still like to be able to get at all the channels.. I'm more a 'shows' person |
| [13:37:00] | juski: | find me a show & record it, from whatever channel for me to watch ;) |
| [13:38:00] | juski: | you can easily dismiss great programmes because they're on the xyz channel, which in your opinion is low-brow, so you never bother with it |
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| [13:43:00] | whyz: | juski, thanks for your advice on altering the .xmltv file.. i've done so now, but doing mythfilldatabase does not populate the new channels :/ if i do a --manual, they show up as they should, but still no program info |
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| [13:46:00] | juski: | whyz: mythfilldatabase, when used with xmltv does not populate channels – it only grabs EPG data for channels.3 |
| [13:47:00] | whyz: | hm |
| [13:47:00] | whyz: | i meant populating the program list.. |
| [13:47:00] | whyz: | the channels are already set up |
| [13:48:00] | juski: | I thought that's what you meant – just needed that clarifying ;) |
| [13:48:00] | whyz: | ok ;) |
| [13:48:00] | juski: | whyz: did you enter the xmltvid for the channels in the channel editor in mythtv-setup? |
| [13:48:00] | whyz: | yepp |
| [13:48:00] | juski: | they need to be absolutely correct |
| [13:49:00] | juski: | whyz: are you running mythfilldatabase as the right user? |
| [13:49:00] | whyz: | they are :D |
| [13:50:00] | juski: | if you're logged in as 'mythtv', you would have edited /home/mythtv/.mythtv/<vid_src_name>.xmltv |
| [13:50:00] | whyz: | yepp.. |
| [13:50:00] | juski: | do you see any errors about mythfilldatabase not finding channels? |
| [13:51:00] | whyz: | i'm running mythtv as whyz, edited the antenna.xmltv file and all.. and no errors from mythfilldatabase. And they do show up nicely when using --manual too |
| [13:53:00] | juski: | maybe try running the xmltv grabber configuration again and add all your channels from scratch |
| [13:53:00] | whyz: | lul.. something is very strange. I've checked the mysql database, and the program listings are there |
| [13:53:00] | whyz: | but they don't show up in mythtv |
| [13:54:00] | juski: | weird |
| [13:54:00] | whyz: | just noticed that, for some reason, the programs begin tomorrow.. gotta check if i can see them |
| [13:54:00] | juski: | ah |
| [13:55:00] | whyz: | heh, yeah they are all there now :) thanks |
| [13:55:00] | whyz: | strange that it didn't grab todays programs |
| [13:57:00] | whyz: | and now i noticed that it *only* grabbed tomorrows programs |
| [13:57:00] | whyz: | wtf |
| [13:57:00] | whyz: | well what the hell, perhaps it will get better tomorrow :P |
| [13:57:00] | juski: | try mythfilldatabase --refresh-today |
| [14:01:00] | whyz: | yeah, that did fill todays programmes.. thanks. |
| [14:03:00] | juski: | np :) |
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| [14:05:00] | jave: | is itpossible to have thumbnails in the mythgallery photo viewer? |
| [14:07:00] | kahuna_: | Anyone using mythtv with a skystar2 DVB-S card? |
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| [14:07:00] | Dagmar: | jave: it's possible, they just don't work so well right now |
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| [14:08:00] | whyz: | jave, it works for me.. |
| [14:08:00] | kahuna_: | If you are, I'm wondering wht your CPU usage is. Mine's hovering around 30%, which is too high for a 2.8ghz processor, IMO. |
| [14:11:00] | jave: | whyz: Dagmar: do i have to do anything to enable it? are the thumbnails external, or internal to the jpeg? |
| [14:12:00] | juski: | kahuna_: are you using XvMC? |
| [14:12:00] | whyz: | jave, i didn't do anything.. just installed the package and it worked |
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| [14:13:00] | jave: | whyz: ok. |
| [14:14:00] | jave: | maybe its because mythgallery doesnt have rw acess to my photo dir. |
| [14:14:00] | whyz: | could be |
| [14:14:00] | kahuna_: | juski: XvMC is unavailable to me. |
| [14:15:00] | juski: | kahuna_: 30% CPU usage isn't so bad then |
| [14:15:00] | kahuna_: | Ah. Ok. |
| [14:16:00] | kahuna_: | Hmm.. maybe I should get rid of this other tuner and get an nvidia card then. |
| [14:18:00] | Hoxzer: | Kahuna: wtf are you me? |
| [14:19:00] | kahuna_: | Hoxzer: ? |
| [14:19:00] | whyz: | that's a rather weird question Hoxzer |
| [14:19:00] | whyz: | :D |
| [14:19:00] | Hoxzer: | :D I'm weird |
| [14:19:00] | whyz: | i like it |
| [14:19:00] | Hoxzer: | like really school makes me crazy |
| [14:20:00] | Hoxzer: | have to wake up 7 a.m every morning :e |
| [14:20:00] | kahuna_: | What's a good cheap model of nvidia card. PCI. |
| [14:20:00] | Hoxzer: | PCI? why not AGP? |
| [14:20:00] | kahuna_: | Hoxzer: I get up at 5. |
| [14:21:00] | kahuna_: | I don't have an AGP slot. AGP is integrated in the motherboard and my on board video card uses it. |
| [14:21:00] | Hoxzer: | oh |
| [14:21:00] | kahuna_: | but it's an ATI and therefore no XvMC :( |
| [14:21:00] | Hoxzer: | what is XvMC? |
| [14:22:00] | whyz: | kahuna_, i could only find 1 nvidia pci card.. never heard of it either. XFX GeForce FX5200 128MB DDR TV-out RETAIL LowProfile PCI |
| [14:22:00] | kahuna_: | X Video Motion Control (?) – Helps with mpeg2 processing. |
| [14:22:00] | Hoxzer: | oh |
| [14:22:00] | ** juski has an XFX FX5200 card – tv out quality is excellent ** | |
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| [14:23:00] | kahuna_: | Maybe I'll look at that then. hopefully the heat sink isn't huge. |
| [14:23:00] | ** Hoxzer has GF mx400 – tv out quality really sucks ** | |
| [14:23:00] | kahuna_: | I had to mod my case just to fit in a PVR-150 |
| [14:23:00] | whyz: | seems rather cheap too.. i bet it's a lot better than my gf4 ti4400 :/ |
| [14:23:00] | Hoxzer: | maybe the problem is in me but the picture is so out of shape |
| [14:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | My MX440's have great TV out, but back in the mx400/early 440's you were taking a gamble since different companies used different TV encoders and some looked great, some where cheap and looked crappy |
| [14:25:00] | juski: | the ones using chrontel encoders were the real crap ones |
| [14:25:00] | kahuna_: | which brands would those be? |
| [14:25:00] | Hoxzer: | how I can tell what encoder my card uses? |
| [14:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | one of my motherboards has an onboard 440mx and it looks like crap, so I've got a different 440mx in that same box |
| [14:26:00] | juski: | I've got one stashed away somewhere.. it didn't like operating in overscan mode – video had colours inverted on odd (random) lines |
| [14:26:00] | kahuna_: | yuk |
| [14:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | kahuna_: Unfortunately many did, plus some changed encoders during productions so not everyone from a specific company was crap or was good |
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| [14:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | hoxz: I'm 99% sure that you can get that info from your X bootup log, or use nvtv to get it |
| [14:27:00] | kahuna_: | just like the problem with wifi adapters today. Too many crap chipsets. |
| [14:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or physically look at the card :) |
| [14:27:00] | juski: | worked great in underscan mode though (fat lot of use that was) |
| [14:27:00] | whyz: | lul |
| [14:27:00] | juski: | the XFX FX5200 card I have uses a nvidia TV encoder on the GPU – quality is comparable to a panasonic DVD player I have |
| [14:28:00] | Discipulus: | You guys coders in here, I hate to ask an off-topic question, but it has relevance if you guys are coders |
| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes, "newer" 2003+ 440's and most everything since use a build in encoder in the GPU so for the most part they should be around the same |
| [14:28:00] | Bricktop: | If xine was configured to support viaXvMC, i will see xxmc as a plugin in the gui automatically? |
| [14:29:00] | kahuna_: | ATI drivers have been improving and I've been bugging them about XvMC so we shall see... |
| [14:30:00] | kahuna_: | the ATI IGP card in my box gives really good quality, but poor linux support. |
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| [15:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Blah, I gotta speed up these DB selects/inserts. Taking way too much time if you have a lot of them going on |
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| [15:59:00] | kahuna_: | Can anyone give me an idea of what a "normal" amount of interrupts per second in vmstat is? As in how many would make my video choppy? |
| [16:00:00] | kahuna_: | I don't even know if that was a good question... |
| [16:03:00] | kahuna_: | do most people here use gentoo? |
| [16:03:00] | juski: | kahuna_: the only time I've ever seen lots of interrupts was when I'd forgotten to enable HDD DMA in my kernel config |
| [16:03:00] | kahuna_: | I have DMA enabled. |
| [16:03:00] | kahuna_: | and hdparm tells me I'm using udma5 |
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| [16:05:00] | kahuna_: | what is considered "lots" of interrupts? I have around 1500–2000 per sec. when watching live tv |
| [16:05:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I'm compiling Myth right now and doing about 1100 ints per sec. |
| [16:05:00] | juski: | my current (working fine) backend, is showing 8 interrupts per sec |
| [16:05:00] | kahuna_: | lol |
| [16:05:00] | kahuna_: | I guess 2k is "lots" then :) |
| [16:06:00] | kahuna_: | I should look at my other hardware then. |
| [16:06:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | my master backend is doing about 100 while idle right now. |
| [16:07:00] | Beirdo: | it should be |
| [16:07:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:07:00] | juski: | even in livetv vmstat still reports 8 ints/sec |
| [16:07:00] | Beirdo: | the tick timers in Linux run at 100Hz, no? |
| [16:07:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | think so |
| [16:07:00] | kahuna_: | My HD is fine and gives me about 50MB/s in hdparm |
| [16:07:00] | juski: | so does that mean my backend is dead? lol |
| [16:07:00] | Beirdo: | I would expect at least 100 interrupts per second on most platforms :) |
| [16:08:00] | kahuna_: | juski: no, it's un-dead. |
| [16:08:00] | kahuna_: | but halloween is over here in the US. |
| [16:08:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | stopping the compile and my workstation stays near 1100 so I may have set ticks to 1000 on here. |
| [16:08:00] | Beirdo: | neat |
| [16:08:00] | kahuna_: | I do have a crappy net card that I have to use ndiswrapper for. Maybe it keeps resetting itself. |
| [16:09:00] | juski: | I get this when I run vmstat: |
| [16:09:00] | juski: | procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- --system-- ----cpu---- |
| [16:09:00] | juski: | r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa |
| [16:09:00] | juski: | 1 0 25728 84744 8156 140676 0 0 7 8 8 5 6 1 93 0 |
| [16:09:00] | Beirdo: | um |
| [16:09:00] | Beirdo: | try a vmstat 1 |
| [16:09:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | run "vmstat 3" |
| [16:09:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | :) |
| [16:09:00] | Beirdo: | the first line is always bogus |
| [16:09:00] | juski: | right.. about 1000 ints then |
| [16:09:00] | laga: | yep |
| [16:10:00] | kahuna_: | I get about 20 in my first vmstat line. |
| [16:10:00] | Beirdo: | my idle PVR is at 200/s |
| [16:10:00] | juski: | anyway – works fine, so never had cause to check it ;) |
| [16:10:00] | kahuna_: | how often does the VBI get called? Is that the 100Hz you're talking about? |
| [16:10:00] | Beirdo: | with about 20–25 context switches per second |
| [16:10:00] | Beirdo: | the vbi is generated by the capture card, AFAIK |
| [16:11:00] | kahuna_: | ok. |
| [16:11:00] | kahuna_: | just curious. |
| [16:11:00] | kahuna_: | I get so much more work done in text mode. |
| [16:12:00] | kahuna_: | By my co-workers think I'm nuts and still using a "DOS" thing. :) |
| [16:12:00] | Beirdo: | screw them |
| [16:12:00] | kahuna_: | some of them I wish i could... |
| [16:13:00] | Beirdo: | console's the only way to go if you can pull it off |
| [16:13:00] | kahuna_: | kidding! :P |
| [16:13:00] | Beirdo: | mmm hmmm |
| [16:13:00] | juski: | console mode video output :D |
| [16:14:00] | ivor: | heh. had a presentation from someone telling us how to run software projects today.... wasn't great when he commented on having been in software development for FOUR years. |
| [16:14:00] | kahuna_: | Now if someone would write a curses interface to open office I'd be a happy camper. |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | one more Rescue Me to catch up on tonight... |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | then gotta catch up on numb3rs (such a DUMB name for a show) |
| [16:14:00] | kahuna_: | four whole years huh ivor? Impressive. |
| [16:15:00] | ivor: | indeed. very depressing. |
| [16:15:00] | kahuna_: | but that's such a l33t name |
| [16:15:00] | juski: | more like l@m3 ;) |
| [16:17:00] | kahuna_: | I'm such a dork. Most of my recordings are MacGyver. |
| [16:17:00] | ivor: | tragic. |
| [16:17:00] | juski: | most of mine are Frasier.. what does that make me? |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:18:00] | ivor: | the majority of mine are Thomas The Tank Engine. :) |
| [16:18:00] | kahuna_: | lol |
| [16:18:00] | juski: | actually the amount of posts I've made on mythtvtalk indicate I need to get a life |
| [16:18:00] | ivor: | I think I out cool everyone. :P |
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| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | for a long time, most of mine were Trading Spaces |
| [16:18:00] | kahuna_: | my kids would like you ivor |
| [16:19:00] | juski: | ivor the engine was better :) (seriously) |
| [16:19:00] | laga: | juski: same for me |
| [16:19:00] | juski: | I think I might take a couple of weeks off work to catch up on my tv viewing |
| [16:20:00] | ** Beirdo chucks a wireless mouse at laga ** | |
| [16:20:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [16:20:00] | juski: | like I'd get away with doing that.. |
| [16:20:00] | Beirdo: | got about 115h of TV waiting to be watched |
| [16:20:00] | Beirdo: | much of which will likely get summarily deleted |
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| [16:21:00] | MrSpiffy: | hello – I am working on getting mythtv to use the via xvmc |
| [16:21:00] | kahuna_: | Where do you store all of this Beirdo? |
| [16:21:00] | MrSpiffy: | my understanding is that it is supposed to work |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | on hard disk, where else? |
| [16:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | I am getting an unable to initialize video error |
| [16:22:00] | ** juski gets his mitts on Maxtor 500GB disks tomorrow.. muhahahaha (not for me tho) ** | |
| [16:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | I found that this build is linked to libXvMCW.so.1 |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | Maxtor?! |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | ick |
| [16:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | instead of libviaxvmc |
| [16:22:00] | ** Beirdo chucks some maxtor drives at laga ** | |
| [16:23:00] | Beirdo: | wireless mice are worth more :) |
| [16:23:00] | rjune: | LOL |
| [16:23:00] | laga: | ouch |
| [16:23:00] | ivor: | MrSpiffy: um, XvMCW is correct. |
| [16:23:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: then please, give me your extras maxtors |
| [16:23:00] | Beirdo: | I wouldn't buy Maxtors |
| [16:23:00] | kahuna_: | who here has a fileserver just for recordings? |
| [16:23:00] | ** Beirdo pats his nice Seagate drives ** | |
| [16:24:00] | rjune: | kahuna_: not JUST for, but primarily used by |
| [16:24:00] | Beirdo: | my fileserver does recordings and other stuff |
| [16:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, ok I canged my XvMCConfig file to this |
| [16:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | libXvMC.so.1 |
| [16:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | from libviaXvMC.so.1 |
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| [16:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | same error |
| [16:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | unable to initialize video |
| [16:25:00] | ivor: | what board do you have. |
| [16:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | via epia |
| [16:25:00] | ivor: | sigh |
| [16:25:00] | ivor: | :) |
| [16:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | using unichrome |
| [16:25:00] | ivor: | which epia board. |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | that's like saying you drive a Ford |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | be more specific :) |
| [16:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | now I know that it works becuae I tested it with xine |
| [16:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | cle266 |
| [16:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | epia M10k |
| [16:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | with xine -V xmmc it plays at 5–8% cpu – sweet |
| [16:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | down from 40–50% |
| [16:26:00] | ivor: | you need to have libviaXvMC.so.1 in your config file. |
| [16:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | if I could get mythfrontend to work I would be in fat city |
| [16:27:00] | juski: | Beirdo – IMHO if you speak to anyone who has owned 'x' manufactured drives, they'll say they were a heap of steaming poo. I'm of the opinion that no manufacturer would knowing sell crap because there's too much money at stake, especially with the larger manufacturers |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | well, I'm afraid you'd be wrong |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | Maxtor STILL has a bad reputation for early death |
| [16:28:00] | kahuna_: | As far as drives go I just buy whatever's on sale, excluding the off brands of course |
| [16:28:00] | rjune: | not the ones I've had |
| [16:28:00] | juski: | where I work, we get better failure rates than their published specs |
| [16:28:00] | Beirdo: | the only reason they are as good as they are now is because they bought Quantum (if I recall correctly) |
| [16:28:00] | kahuna_: | I've had mixed luck with all major brands of drives. |
| [16:28:00] | juski: | and we use literally thousands of big drives every month |
| [16:28:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: Quantum, you wanna talk bad rep. you gotta talk the bigfoot drives |
| [16:29:00] | kahuna_: | you must work for a fortune 500 or something |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, yeah THOSE ones blew |
| [16:29:00] | rjune: | juski: so then you get a good discount, ya? :- |
| [16:29:00] | rjune: | :-) |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | but most Quantums were pretty good |
| [16:29:00] | ** juski checks ** | |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | I'll still buy Seagate, though |
| [16:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | hmm |
| [16:29:00] | kahuna_: | I've had bad luck all around with quantums. It was probably the heat though. |
| [16:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | strace shows this |
| [16:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | nanosleep({0, 10000000}, No XvMC found |
| [16:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | wtf |
| [16:29:00] | rjune: | juski: if you go through thousands per month, you can get the from the mfg |
| [16:30:00] | juski: | nah we still go through distis |
| [16:30:00] | kahuna_: | Yah juski hook us up w/ your discount :P |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | RMA is sweet |
| [16:30:00] | juski: | £67.57 for a 300GB drive. Not sure what they retail for |
| [16:31:00] | ivor: | MrSpiffy: did mythtv configure detect your xvmc ok and link to the wrapper? |
| [16:31:00] | kahuna_: | currently I like WD. But I'll buy whatever's on sale and make tape backups and RAID1 the important stuff. |
| [16:31:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, I do not know. I used atrpms |
| [16:32:00] | rjune: | juski: sata or ata? |
| [16:32:00] | juski: | rjune: ata |
| [16:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, where do I look for the wrapper? |
| [16:32:00] | juski: | we're not using sata just yet |
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| [16:32:00] | rjune: | juski: pricewatch shows them @ $100 |
| [16:32:00] | ivor: | ok. 1. is it linked against XvMCW. 2. What does the mythfrontend log tell you. |
| [16:32:00] | kahuna_: | MrSpiffy: you should compile myth. That's what I usually do. That way you know for sure what's supported and what's not. |
| [16:33:00] | rjune: | which means you'll spend about $120 |
| [16:33:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivro not much |
| [16:33:00] | juski: | rjune – we're being robbed then – though it's more likely the price on the BOM isn't up to date |
| [16:33:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, here is what it spits out |
| [16:33:00] | rjune: | I'm not sure of the conversion rate |
| [16:33:00] | kahuna_: | I'm wondering is he can just do a ldd mythfrontend and see if it's linked to the xvmc libs |
| [16:34:00] | rjune: | juski: it's about the same. but yeah I'm thinking that's high if you're doing that much business |
| [16:34:00] | ivor: | kahuna_: yup. ldd the mythtvlib. |
| [16:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | No XvMC found |
| [16:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–03 10:34:17.821 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [16:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–03 10:34:17.822 Decoder not alive, and trying to play.. |
| [16:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–03 10:34:17.890 Changing from None to None |
| [16:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | the no xvmc found is a mystery |
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| [16:35:00] | Bricktop: | Did u installed the XvMCWarrper??? |
| [16:36:00] | Bricktop: | Without it, it's useless ;D |
| [16:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | Bricktop, I used atrpms – so is that another rpm? |
| [16:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | btw in xorg I get |
| [16:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | (II) VIA(0): [XvMC] Registering viaXvMC. |
| [16:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | (II) VIA(0): [XvMC] Initialized XvMC extension. |
| [16:37:00] | Bricktop: | Amm... that's a problem. Didn't installed XvMC though rpm. |
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| [16:37:00] | Bricktop: | Compiled from source :D |
| [16:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | one sec |
| [16:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | switching back config |
| [16:39:00] | Bricktop: | ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCW* |
| [16:39:00] | Bricktop: | write the output |
| [16:39:00] | MrSpiffy: | one sec Brick |
| [16:41:00] | MrSpiffy: | xorg shows this |
| [16:41:00] | MrSpiffy: | (II) VIA(0): [XvMC] Registering viaXvMC. |
| [16:41:00] | MrSpiffy: | (II) VIA(0): [XvMC] Initialized XvMC extension. |
| [16:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | myth shows this |
| [16:42:00] | Bricktop: | thats good |
| [16:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | Using XvMC version: 1.1 |
| [16:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | XvMC found and using MC surface |
| [16:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–03 10:41:05.985 Using XV port 68 |
| [16:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–03 10:41:08.717 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [16:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–03 10:41:08.717 Decoder not alive, and trying to play.. |
| [16:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2005-11–03 10:41:08.786 Changing from None to None |
| [16:42:00] | Bricktop: | ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCW* |
| [16:42:00] | Bricktop: | give me the output please :F |
| [16:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCW* |
| [16:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCW.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCW.so.1 |
| [16:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCW.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCW.so.1.0 |
| [16:43:00] | Bricktop: | OK |
| [16:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | and |
| [16:43:00] | Bricktop: | Now wait a sec... my linux is down |
| [16:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | /usr/X11R6/lib/libvia* |
| [16:43:00] | Bricktop: | I will chcek where the config reside |
| [16:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | /usr/X11R6/lib/libviaXvMC.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libviaXvMCPro.so.1.0 |
| [16:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | /usr/X11R6/lib/libviaXvMCPro.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libviaXvMC.so |
| [16:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | /usr/X11R6/lib/libviaXvMCPro.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libviaXvMC.so.1 |
| [16:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | /usr/X11R6/lib/libviaXvMCPro.so.1 /usr/X11R6/lib/libviaXvMC.so.1.0 |
| [16:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | ok |
| [16:44:00] | MrSpiffy: | in xorg my xvmc config file loads libviaXvMC.so.1 |
| [16:44:00] | MrSpiffy: | as per the epia how to's |
| [16:44:00] | Bricktop: | There is also a warrper config file |
| [16:44:00] | MrSpiffy: | k |
| [16:44:00] | Bricktop: | maybe it's configured for the wrong so.1 file |
| [16:46:00] | Bricktop: | vim /etc/X11/XvMCConfig |
| [16:47:00] | Bricktop: | check this file out |
| [16:47:00] | Bricktop: | what does it say? |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | I'm gonna bitch-slap some cow-workers |
| [16:48:00] | MrSpiffy: | uh oh |
| [16:48:00] | Chutt: | there, wonder if that'll piss off the knoppmyth guys |
| [16:48:00] | MrSpiffy: | libXvMCNVIDIA_dynamic.so.1 |
| [16:48:00] | ivor: | "XvMC found and using MC surface" wrong. do you have myth selected to use VLD XVMC in the setup? |
| [16:48:00] | MrSpiffy: | oops |
| [16:48:00] | MrSpiffy: | wrong host |
| [16:48:00] | MrSpiffy: | sorry |
| [16:48:00] | MrSpiffy: | one sec |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | one of our buildservers is 100% on / |
| [16:49:00] | ivor: | Beirdo: heh. nice. |
| [16:49:00] | MrSpiffy: | libviaXvMC.so.1 |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | oh, it locked good too, console stopped working, ssh died |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | so I had to powercycle it |
| [16:49:00] | Bricktop: | MeSpiffy: Thats fine |
| [16:49:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, I have use via xvmc selected in the setup |
| [16:50:00] | Bricktop: | try to download unichrome-mp2player |
| [16:50:00] | Bricktop: | and check with him |
| [16:50:00] | Bricktop: | http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/unichrome/ . . . .gz?download |
| [16:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | correction |
| [16:50:00] | Bricktop: | It? |
| [16:50:00] | ivor: | Bricktop: he said xine was working, so his xvmc is ok. |
| [16:50:00] | Bricktop: | I mean ? |
| [16:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | the actual check is use XvMC MPEG Decoding |
| [16:51:00] | Bricktop: | but maybe his xine don't use xvmc but xv |
| [16:51:00] | Bricktop: | :D |
| [16:51:00] | ivor: | MrSpiffy: ok which is wrong. :) |
| [16:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | hmm |
| [16:51:00] | ivor: | perhaps your mythtv isn't compiled with xvmc-vld after all. |
| [16:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | man |
| [16:52:00] | ivor: | Bricktop: [15:26] <MrSpiffy> with xine -V xmmc it plays at 5–8% cpu – sweet |
| [16:52:00] | ivor: | :D |
| [16:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | :) |
| [16:52:00] | Bricktop: | OK |
| [16:52:00] | Bricktop: | Wasnt here, that time :D |
| [16:52:00] | ivor: | MrSpiffy: either compile yourself or pester atrpms and find out what they've built with. |
| [16:53:00] | MrSpiffy: | damnit |
| [16:53:00] | MrSpiffy: | using 0.18.1.20050523–1 from atrpms |
| [16:53:00] | Bricktop: | compile ur self is better :) (U can't blame anyone) |
| [16:53:00] | MrSpiffy: | so that option should have read – use via xvmc |
| [16:54:00] | MrSpiffy: | I think I remeber that in a previous version.. |
| [16:54:00] | Bricktop: | MrSpiffy: I'm dying to know something about xine gui |
| [16:55:00] | Bricktop: | MrSpiffy: Do you have the xmmc driver in the video configuration of the gui? |
| [16:55:00] | Bricktop: | MrSpiffy: Or just -V xmmc works for u? |
| [16:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | Bricktop, I just tested it with -V xmmc |
| [16:56:00] | Bricktop: | Can u check for me? |
| [16:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | tough |
| [16:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | I can't read shit on the screen – using a tv and it's terrible |
| [16:58:00] | MrSpiffy: | won't run over ssh |
| [16:58:00] | MrSpiffy: | :( |
| [16:58:00] | MrSpiffy: | one sec |
| [16:58:00] | MrSpiffy: | got it over ssh without options |
| [17:00:00] | MrSpiffy: | Bricktop, ok I set it to xvmc using the gui |
| [17:00:00] | Bricktop: | ok... Cause I don't have that option in my gui |
| [17:00:00] | Bricktop: | will recheck later |
| [17:01:00] | Bricktop: | What have you done in order to compile xine with xvmc? |
| [17:01:00] | MrSpiffy: | heh |
| [17:01:00] | MrSpiffy: | also an rpm |
| [17:01:00] | Bricktop: | :( |
| [17:03:00] | MrSpiffy: | baseurl=http://washington.kelkoo.net/epia/FC$releasever |
| [17:03:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [17:03:00] | Chutt: | the spellchecker in kmail doesn't know 'ASAFP' |
| [17:04:00] | MrSpiffy: | it looks like the mythtv in at-rpms does is not compiled with via xvmc enabled then |
| [17:04:00] | MrSpiffy: | which sucks big rocks |
| [17:04:00] | ivor: | Chutt: does it know STFU RTFM or ROFL ? :) |
| [17:05:00] | Chutt: | yes |
| [17:05:00] | ivor: | well that covers most replies then. |
| [17:05:00] | Chutt: | hey, isn't there a knoppmyth channel? |
| [17:06:00] | ivor: | indeed. #knoppmyth |
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| [17:06:00] | Chutt: | i need to smack whatever moron decided to package up a random svn checkout for their latest release. |
| [17:07:00] | Bricktop: | :D |
| [17:07:00] | MrSpiffy: | Bricktop, fyi |
| [17:07:00] | MrSpiffy: | xine-0.99.4–0.lvn.1.3 |
| [17:07:00] | MrSpiffy: | xine-lib-1.0.1–0.lvn.3.3.ucr.2 |
| [17:07:00] | Bricktop: | can't use rpm |
| [17:08:00] | Bricktop: | compiling from source :) |
| [17:08:00] | Bricktop: | I will look for the ./configure switch :) |
| [17:08:00] | Bricktop: | in the xine-lib i found it |
| [17:08:00] | Bricktop: | i will find it in the xine-gui too |
| [17:10:00] | Bricktop: | MrSpiffy: run xine -V xmmc fifo://dev/video0 |
| [17:11:00] | Bricktop: | and test how it works |
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| [17:15:00] | ivor: | Chutt: looks pretty quiet in that channel |
| [17:15:00] | Chutt: | yes, it does |
| [17:15:00] | MrSpiffy: | no plugin to handle fifo |
| [17:15:00] | Chutt: | i just emailed cecil directly, anyway |
| [17:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | Bricktop, btw it is a frontend box – no capture card |
| [17:17:00] | Chutt: | this shit pisses me off |
| [17:18:00] | juski: | MrSpiffy.. is this an EPIA frontend? if so, waste no more time I go over to minimyth – it's all pre-built & sweet ;) |
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| [17:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | juski, no thank you |
| [17:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | juski, tried it, hated it |
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| [17:20:00] | juski: | fair enough I suppose |
| [17:21:00] | juski: | what's there to hate about it? it works, boots up fast... aaanyway |
| [17:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | juski, looked like CRAP |
| [17:23:00] | gakalkag: | juski. I get 100%cpu usage when playing mpeg2 720x576 in minimyth on epia sp800e. how about u? |
| [17:23:00] | juski: | nope – about 30% ish |
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| [17:24:00] | gakalkag: | u use the default settings or is there something to tweak? |
| [17:24:00] | juski: | MrSpiffy – the themes incorporated in minimyth are no different to the standard mythtv themes, so if it looks like crap – by definition so does everything else |
| [17:24:00] | gakalkag: | i guess its uses xine with xxmc as default? |
| [17:25:00] | juski: | gakalkag – pretty much standard – didn't change anything to do with tv playback. xine was choppy at first til I had a play around with it |
| [17:26:00] | gakalkag: | play around? the .xonfig -file? |
| [17:26:00] | gakalkag: | i mean .config |
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| [17:26:00] | juski: | no, gakalkag – xine command line settings for mythvideo |
| [17:26:00] | aMMgYrP: | can I get a private powwow with someone in here? |
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| [17:27:00] | gakalkag: | where u put that? |
| [17:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | aMMgYrP: Why? Why not just post your questions here ? |
| [17:27:00] | aMMgYrP: | well its fairly indepth but here goes |
| [17:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | Bricktop, forgive my scrambled brain – my problem is myth is not compiled with xvmc-VLD (hence the MC message) |
| [17:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | and I ether have to tell at-rpm folks they borked it |
| [17:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just don't flood the channel, If you have lots of stuff to paste do it on pastebin.ca and post the link to that . But otherwise questions and such are welcome here |
| [17:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | ore compile from source |
| [17:28:00] | juski: | gakalkag.. try the setup menus for mythvideo & mythdvd. Oh and I had to put libdvdcss in there, but that wasn't so hard |
| [17:28:00] | aMMgYrP: | I jsut found out that my hauppauge 500 DOES work, its apparenly the 'transparent" PCI bridge that allows the PCI cards to fit into the slim profile box that is causing the video signal not to show up. |
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| [17:29:00] | aMMgYrP: | Greyfoxx I think you were helping me with this the last time |
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| [17:29:00] | juski: | time to get a proper case, then aMMgYrP ;) |
| [17:30:00] | aMMgYrP: | yah, I'm seeing that, but i still have the option of running a backend in a closet and a front end off of the slim machine |
| [17:30:00] | juski: | or try another PCI bridge card – the one you have could be faulty if the PVR card works without it |
| [17:31:00] | aMMgYrP: | true that could be it as well... |
| [17:31:00] | juski: | or the PCI bus timings might be a bit on the tight side, and introducing more track length in the signals is goosing it up |
| [17:31:00] | gakalkag: | juski. did u have to enable xvmc-vld? in the playback menu? |
| [17:31:00] | juski: | gakalkag – in minimyth it was enabled by default, and in any case seems to make no difference |
| [17:32:00] | aMMgYrP: | but I'll have to wait until later tonight to test that theory out. (I had to determine if the card itself were working before I checked the bridge because the question had too many dependant variables) |
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| [17:33:00] | gakalkag: | juski, can i ask what xine command line settings u added? |
| [17:33:00] | aMMgYrP: | now alls thats left for me to do is decide to either a) modify the slim case to fit the card, or b) to use an old p3 800mhz box as a back end... |
| [17:34:00] | aMMgYrP: | that is of course if the bridge test fails |
| [17:34:00] | gakalkag: | im using a p2 350mhz as backend / my workstation |
| [17:34:00] | aMMgYrP: | I'm more asking fro recommendations not tech support :D |
| [17:34:00] | gakalkag: | with pvr500 |
| [17:34:00] | aMMgYrP: | and you are not having any speed problems? |
| [17:34:00] | aMMgYrP: | nice and sporty? |
| [17:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Why would you? The capture from that card uses basically 0 cpu |
| [17:35:00] | aMMgYrP: | true |
| [17:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | and if it's just a backend then it just streams it over the network which any itty bitty PC could handle |
| [17:35:00] | aMMgYrP: | and stores the files right? |
| [17:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | a backend does yes |
| [17:36:00] | gakalkag: | nope my 300gb disk get "Timing buffered disk reads: 130 MB in 3.03 seconds = 42.91 MB/sec" |
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| [17:36:00] | aMMgYrP: | hmmm then it becomes a more viable option now |
| [17:37:00] | aMMgYrP: | now to figure out how much more a PC running in the closet 24/7 will cost me power usage... |
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| [17:37:00] | a1fa: | tada |
| [17:37:00] | a1fa: | my hd is here.. 80GB |
| [17:38:00] | a1fa: | my video card should be here tomorrow |
| [17:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | They still sell 80's ?? |
| [17:38:00] | a1fa: | Asus V9400-X/TD nVidia MX4000 AGP 8X 64MB DDR Video Card w/TV-Out & DVI Retail |
| [17:39:00] | a1fa: | hopefully this is a good card and I dont get any problems with it |
| [17:39:00] | a1fa: | i am going to order pvr-500 on the 15th |
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| [17:41:00] | a1fa: | PVR-350 comes w/ dual-head and remote? |
| [17:42:00] | a1fa: | i dont where to get a good serial ird |
| [17:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | GreyFoxx, yes – comes with a puch card |
| [17:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | punch card id est |
| [17:42:00] | juski: | gakalkag: I can't remember.. but it was along the lines of xine -pfhq --no-splash dvd:// -V xv |
| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | a1fa: What do you mean dial head? A 350 only has 1 output |
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| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | err dual |
| [17:43:00] | Ryushin: | Is the visualization feature in mythmusic niced? |
| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | I doubt it |
| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | unless you run the frontend niced :) |
| [17:43:00] | Ryushin: | Hmmm... Gorm eats cpu like crazy. |
| [17:43:00] | Ryushin: | It's not. |
| [17:44:00] | a1fa: | GreyFoxx : i am talking about input |
| [17:44:00] | a1fa: | what would be a good serial ird to order? |
| [17:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | a1fa: The 350 has 1 tuner on it |
| [17:45:00] | a1fa: | ok |
| [17:45:00] | a1fa: | i am getting pvr-500 |
| [17:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | the only PVR card with 2 is the 500 |
| [17:45:00] | aMMgYrP: | hmm.... idling, how much energy does a computer use? |
| [17:45:00] | a1fa: | yeah |
| [17:45:00] | a1fa: | GreyFoxx : please recomenda good ird? |
| [17:45:00] | Ryushin: | No doubt it's very cool to look at. It looks like mythfrontend and mythbackend run at the same niceness. 0. |
| [17:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ryushin: Which is default for all processes |
| [17:46:00] | Ryushin: | I wonder if a recording starts, will gorm impact it's recording to disk. |
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| [17:46:00] | a1fa: | anybody.. i need a good ir reciever |
| [17:46:00] | juski: | aMMgYrP: depends on what hardware you've got. My EPIA machine pulls less than 30W from the mains, but my 2.8 Athlon draws more than 100W (at idle!) |
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| [17:47:00] | Ryushin: | Gorm burns all the CPU at 720p. |
| [17:47:00] | Ryushin: | I'll guess I'll have to wait and see what happens with my wifes Young and the Restless. |
| [17:47:00] | Chutt: | it's 'goom'. |
| [17:47:00] | juski: | time was when the only visual you got when playing music was a black plastic thing going round & round ;) |
| [17:48:00] | aMMgYrP: | hmmm I think I'll mod the case instead of building a back end if it comes down to it... |
| [17:48:00] | a1fa: | dude |
| [17:48:00] | a1fa: | ir reciever? |
| [17:48:00] | juski: | unless you were 'on something' |
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| [17:48:00] | |OZ|: | im having some trouble with my channel guid info. All of my info is "Unavailable" until the 17th when i have data again..is ther somebody that can help me with this..in my db i show data in the program table |
| [17:50:00] | a1fa: | anyone used this card Asus V9400-X/TD nVidia MX4000 AGP 8X 64MB DDR Video Card w/TV-Out & DVI Retail |
| [17:50:00] | aMMgYrP: | thanks folks, off to class I am, speak like yoda in physics i will |
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| [17:52:00] | a1fa: | should i run unstable or stable debian tree for my mythtv? |
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| [17:53:00] | gakalkag: | im using stable with only the nessesary stuff from unstable |
| [17:53:00] | a1fa: | what is that? |
| [17:53:00] | a1fa: | i am installing mythtv tonight |
| [17:54:00] | gakalkag: | dont remember, but i ucommented the unstable lines in my sources-file when installing mythtv |
| [17:55:00] | gakalkag: | and then its just to apt-get :-) |
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| [17:55:00] | a1fa: | cool |
| [17:55:00] | a1fa: | SBT-TVFM FM Radio /TV Tuner PCI Capture Card |
| [17:55:00] | a1fa: | you think this is compatible? |
| [17:55:00] | a1fa: | with linux? |
| [17:56:00] | juski: | a1fa: depends what chipset it |
| [17:56:00] | bill2or3: | what chipset? |
| [17:56:00] | juski: | *what chipset it's based on |
| [17:56:00] | a1fa: | it doesnt say |
| [17:57:00] | bill2or3: | http://themikecam.com/blog/2005/08/29/sound-f . . . eo-in-linux/ |
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| [17:57:00] | bill2or3: | looks like that guy's using one. |
| [17:57:00] | a1fa: | Super Digital PCI Video Capture & TV Card w/Philips Chipset |
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| [17:57:00] | a1fa: | how about this one? |
| [17:57:00] | bill2or3: | I used google, you can too. |
| [17:58:00] | juski: | how about looking at the v4l 'supported hardware' page? ;) |
| [17:58:00] | sphing: | OT: is there strncpy in the kernel? |
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| [18:12:00] | a1fa: | juski : where@ |
| [18:12:00] | a1fa: | somebody recomend me a ir reciever |
| [18:12:00] | a1fa: | http://www.exploits.org/v4l/ |
| [18:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: That's more of a libc/glibc function I believe, not something provided by the kernel |
| [18:13:00] | sphing: | actually there is... i found managed to find it on google |
| [18:13:00] | sphing: | *managed to find |
| [18:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Got a URL |
| [18:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | ? |
| [18:14:00] | sphing: | http://kernelnewbies.org/documents/kdoc/kerne . . . rnelapi.html |
| [18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes, it's part of libc/glibc, NOT provided by the kernel |
| [18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | the kernel doesn't handle string copies for you |
| [18:15:00] | sphing: | my apologies |
| [18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | But that library call is available to a kernel module |
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| [18:15:00] | sphing: | how? |
| [18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | statically compiled in |
| [18:15:00] | sphing: | ahh ok. |
| [18:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | Doing some kernel related work ? |
| [18:16:00] | sphing: | for school |
| [18:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | fun |
| [18:17:00] | sphing: | my project is to make a proc file that acts like find |
| [18:17:00] | a1fa: | Philips 713X chipset ?? |
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| [18:17:00] | a1fa: | lol |
| [18:17:00] | a1fa: | levi |
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| [18:17:00] | a1fa: | what you doin here? |
| [18:18:00] | jasta: | He seems to be joining lots of random channels. |
| [18:18:00] | a1fa: | yeah |
| [18:18:00] | a1fa: | lilo is crazy |
| [18:18:00] | a1fa: | ;( |
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| [18:18:00] | a1fa: | i am still looking for ir reciever |
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| [18:21:00] | kahuna_: | a1fa: There are several reccomendations at lirc.org |
| [18:21:00] | Chutt: | xris, nice to see some mythweb commits =) |
| [18:21:00] | kahuna_: | The serial one works best |
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| [18:22:00] | sphing: | whats the time since 1969 called |
| [18:22:00] | sphing: | ... i forgot |
| [18:23:00] | kahuna_: | epoch |
| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | since Jan 1 1970 |
| [18:23:00] | a1fa: | they have a site |
| [18:23:00] | a1fa: | its in .de |
| [18:23:00] | kahuna_: | 1969 does not exist :) |
| [18:23:00] | a1fa: | i live in .us |
| [18:24:00] | kahuna_: | a1fa: They ship to the US |
| [18:24:00] | kahuna_: | within a week or so I hear |
| [18:24:00] | sphing: | hmm i thought jan 1, 1970 00:00 was considered 1 |
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| [18:25:00] | jasta: | 0, i think. |
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| [18:25:00] | jasta: | it would be easy to confirm. |
| [18:26:00] | juski: | iiiiiiiiit's hometime :D |
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| [18:26:00] | dbroo_: | hi all |
| [18:27:00] | dbroo_: | i wonder if anyone can help me. i've got a couple of DVB-T cards. i'm using them with myth. is it possible to put them into 4:3L (letterbox) mode? they are in 16:9 at the moment and on my 4:3 tv, they are stretched and i can't see the full picture. thanks. |
| [18:27:00] | epoch: | eh? |
| [18:27:00] | epoch: | oh. hahaha |
| [18:27:00] | sphing: | hahahah |
| [18:27:00] | sphing: | awesome |
| [18:27:00] | epoch: | here I thought kahuna_ was looking for me |
| [18:27:00] | epoch: | ;) |
| [18:27:00] | jasta: | I was wrong :) |
| [18:27:00] | sphing: | its 1? |
| [18:27:00] | epoch: | but yeah, the epoch differs per operating system |
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| [18:28:00] | epoch: | some OSes use 1969 |
| [18:28:00] | jasta: | No nevermind, I just wasn't thinking about GMT. |
| [18:28:00] | a1fa: | i am off |
| [18:28:00] | a1fa: | brb |
| [18:28:00] | jasta: | It is Jan 1, 1970 00:00:00 once adjusted for GMT. |
| [18:29:00] | jasta: | epoch: I suspect actually that it's extremely well defined, and isn't variant at all. |
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| [18:29:00] | jasta: | POSIX isn't liable to be vague about this sort of thing. |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | Jan 1, 1970 00:00:00 GMT is the standard |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | timezones of course can make the *local* representation say 1969 |
| [18:31:00] | sphing: | are there any date -> epoch time kernel functions? |
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| [18:31:00] | epoch: | jasta: well, POSIX-compliant OSes use the proper one ;) |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | sphing: don't think so |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | but there are system calls |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | in libc |
| [18:32:00] | epoch: | jasta: I believe windows uses 1901 |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | Windows is a flaming POS |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | it doesn't count |
| [18:32:00] | epoch: | that is also true |
| [18:32:00] | epoch: | heh |
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| [18:39:00] | jasta: | epoch: Unlikely. Windows feigns POSIX compliance. |
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| [18:42:00] | epoch: | my bad, it's filetime epoch |
| [18:42:00] | epoch: | and it's not 1901, it's 1601, heh |
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| [18:43:00] | epoch: | ah here we go |
| [18:43:00] | epoch: | http://www.clueless.com/jargon3.0.0/epoch.html |
| [18:43:00] | epoch: | I was thiking of VMS |
| [18:43:00] | epoch: | under VMS, it's 00:00:00 of November 17, 1858 |
| [18:43:00] | epoch: | also old MacOS was 1904 |
| [18:45:00] | ** xris wonders what happened to kormoc ** | |
| [18:45:00] | xris: | Beirdo: so I actually committed some changes to mythweb last night. |
| [18:48:00] | sphing: | xris you see chutt's comment |
| [18:49:00] | xris: | comment about... ? |
| [18:49:00] | xris: | oh, earlier. yes. |
| [18:49:00] | xris: | Chutt: yeah. and my arm hurts like hell today. |
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| [18:52:00] | xris: | Chutt: I think/hope that those two people on the mailing list who've been offering to help will be able to get some work done on the enhancements. But I'm getting bored with my wiki program so I'll be focusing on mythweb again for awhile. |
| [18:53:00] | sphing: | xris: i was actually looking to help also |
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| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | oh cool, mythweb is getting changed? :) |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:15:00] | xris: | Beirdo: yeah |
| [19:15:00] | xris: | finally |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | what's on the chopping block? |
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| [19:16:00] | xris: | core rewrite |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | ah,c ool |
| [19:16:00] | xris: | mod_rewrite stuff |
| [19:16:00] | xris: | ajax |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | requiring people to use mod_rewrite is just going to cause more support questions, you do realize that right? |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | don't forget, people are stupid :)P |
| [19:17:00] | kormoc: | actually, there's a lot of packages that 'require' mod_rewrite |
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| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | yes, and I'm sure they get their share of retarded questions too |
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| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | but coolness |
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| [19:19:00] | xris: | yeah. but it's not as bad as the cookie issues we get now. |
| [19:19:00] | xris: | mod_rewrite you just have to make sure is installed, and most distros do that. |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | and make sure you allow rewrites in .htaccess |
| [19:20:00] | xris: | you need that for mythweb, anyway. |
| [19:20:00] | xris: | AllowOverride All |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | heh, true |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | AllowOwnage All |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:20:00] | xris: | yes |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | such is life |
| [19:20:00] | xris: | I've added a bunch of comments to the .htaccess file. |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:20:00] | xris: | moved the database config options there, too |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | good stuff |
| [19:20:00] | xris: | will probably move that "shared path" thing there, too. |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | and a default setting for "description on a separate line"? :) |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | I should go hack that back the way I like it sometime, I forgot when I upgraded to SVN |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | but I guess if the core's being redone, that may be a moot point |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | does ajax require any extra stuff to be installed, or will that all be encapsulated in mythweb somehow? |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | (never used it) |
| [19:23:00] | xris: | yeah, all settings will be moving to the db |
| [19:23:00] | xris: | ajax is javascript |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [19:23:00] | xris: | the delete-recording stuff already uses it. |
| [19:24:00] | xris: | I plan to have a javascript theme and a non-javascript (aka "compact") theme... along with the other stuff like wap/vxml, etc. |
| [19:24:00] | xris: | beyond that, everything else should be skinnable via css. |
| [19:25:00] | xris: | should make things a lot easier to maintain. |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [19:25:00] | ** Beirdo waps mythweb ** | |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | my stupidass phone won't do SSL |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | so until we have some user authentication-like thing in there, I can't use it from my phone |
| [19:26:00] | xris: | why not just set it up not in ssl mode? |
| [19:26:00] | xris: | the user authentication will still likely be htdigest (which I switched the .htaccess over to last night) |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | Hmmm |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | I'll have to take a look at what you changed |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | I've never use htdigest |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | used even |
| [19:27:00] | xris: | well, it's the default.. can use whatever you want. |
| [19:27:00] | xris: | htdigest is just ever so slightly more secure than htpasswd |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | should make the default use mod_auth_mysql or something, and REALLY get complaints |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:29:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | or even worse... mod_auth_pgsql |
| [19:30:00] | xris: | well, I could integrate my own auth, but for something this simple, it really just annoys me |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | make em install both DBs |
| [19:30:00] | ** Beirdo is evil ** | |
| [19:30:00] | xris: | I'd rather have the browser just pop up something with a saved password in it so I can hit enter. |
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| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [19:30:00] | xris: | Beirdo: or just use the soon-to-be-released free version of oracle |
| [19:30:00] | bill2or3: | mod_auth_mysql is evil incarnate. afair, there are two versions, with slightly incompatible options. |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | still can be done though |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | oh good god, I don't want Oracle :) |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:31:00] | bill2or3: | last time I had to deal with it I think I ended up using mod_auth_external w/ a small script to do the lookup. |
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| [19:32:00] | xris: | well, I don't think I'm quite ready to force people to use auth. |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:33:00] | Chutt: | i don't want to use auth on my install :p |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | we'll give you time first, then you can be evil |
| [19:33:00] | xris: | but how do you control what the browser sends for the external stuff? Or does it just send the password in the clear? |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | it's nice to be able to easily shut it off now |
| [19:34:00] | xris: | yeah. |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | people can go as nuts as they want |
| [19:34:00] | xris: | the only real reason to think about requiring auth is for setting up specific-user permissions like the frontend has (ie. limiting access to children).. but it's a pain. |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, understandably |
| [19:35:00] | Beirdo: | I'd really like a "view my programs" mode and the "full control" mode |
| [19:35:00] | Beirdo: | but it would be a pain for sure |
| [19:35:00] | xris: | I'd need to look at how the frontend deals with users. |
| [19:36:00] | xris: | might be easy enough to request an admin password as needed |
| [19:36:00] | Beirdo: | that could work |
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| [19:50:00] | a1fa: | i whoop that ass too |
| [19:50:00] | a1fa: | kicked the shit out of my cat |
| [19:50:00] | a1fa: | that bastard |
| [19:51:00] | rjune: | ? |
| [19:51:00] | a1fa: | he was jumping around on the leather furniture |
| [19:52:00] | a1fa: | he is not declawed |
| [19:52:00] | a1fa: | so i whoop that ass |
| [19:55:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | whoop your own for having a non-declawed cat and leather furniture |
| [20:02:00] | kormoc: | gah, declawing seems so brutal. |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | well, blaming the cat for running on leather furniture with claws isn't fair |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | IMO :) |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | but it ain't MY cat |
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| [20:06:00] | darkfire_: | does anyone happen to know of a mirror for pvr_1.18.21.22254_inf.zip, firmware for the hauppage tuner that's required by the gentoo ebuild for ivtv? i've googled everywhere and cant seem to find one other than ftp.shspvr.com, which i cant connect to |
| [20:09:00] | kormoc: | darkfire_, I can connect to it just fine |
| [20:09:00] | a1fa: | lol |
| [20:09:00] | a1fa: | i'd never declaw my cat |
| [20:09:00] | a1fa: | i'd rather kick the shit out of it |
| [20:09:00] | a1fa: | and he wont do it again |
| [20:09:00] | darkfire_: | kormoc, i can get a connection, but something about my college's configuration is zonking it before i can log in |
| [20:09:00] | a1fa: | easy |
| [20:10:00] | a1fa: | http://www.petsmart.com/media/ps/images/produ . . . 46_49209.jpg |
| [20:10:00] | a1fa: | i am going to buy him pink |
| [20:10:00] | a1fa: | nail caps |
| [20:10:00] | a1fa: | ;P |
| [20:10:00] | kormoc: | darkfire_, what's the full url to it? |
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| [20:13:00] | kormoc: | http://www.slickdeals.net/#p6665 <-- one domain name + one year of hosting (4800 megs, 120 gb traffic) for only $9, incase anyone is intrested |
| [20:13:00] | a1fa: | hahaha |
| [20:13:00] | a1fa: | referel url |
| [20:13:00] | kormoc: | a1fa, actually, it's not |
| [20:14:00] | a1fa: | or not :( |
| [20:14:00] | kormoc: | just a randomly good deal |
| [20:16:00] | a1fa: | do they have grocerie cupons :p |
| [20:16:00] | kormoc: | not usually |
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| [20:29:00] | Beirdo: | great |
| [20:29:00] | Beirdo: | falling asleep... |
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| [20:38:00] | darkfire_: | kormoc, ftp://ftp.shspvr.com/download/wintv-pvr_250-3 . . . 2254_inf.zip |
| [20:40:00] | kormoc: | darkfire_, http://www.kormoc.com/pvr_1.18.21.22254_inf.zip |
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| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | should go see how much pr0n kormoc's serving |
| [20:41:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, enjoy :P |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | a 404 on the pr0n/ dir |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | wuss |
| [20:42:00] | kormoc: | :P |
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| [20:44:00] | darkfire_: | kormoc, thank you a bunch |
| [20:45:00] | kormoc: | you're welcome |
| [20:45:00] | kormoc: | let me know when you got it |
| [20:45:00] | darkfire_: | got it |
| [20:46:00] | beavis: | xris: do I have to use the new .htaccess now? or does it still work with my own .htaccess? |
| [20:47:00] | kahuna_: | Beirdo: You got the 404 cause the real directory is g4ypr0n/ |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
| [20:47:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [20:47:00] | kahuna_: | hehe |
| [20:48:00] | kahuna_: | I have this PVR-150MCE sitting in my box at home that I haven't had time to set up yet. What's the preferred firmware for the 150? Is the audio firmware still worthless? |
| [20:49:00] | beavis: | so Jack Kelliher from pcHDTV is the one who pays Daniel to work for mythtv?? |
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| [20:55:00] | bill2or3: | I picked up my new HD3000 from him yesterday. |
| [20:55:00] | bill2or3: | seems like a nice guy. |
| [20:55:00] | beavis: | Jack Kelliher ? |
| [20:55:00] | bill2or3: | yeah, I live near him. |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | beer me |
| [20:55:00] | laga: | coffee me |
| [20:56:00] | D-side: | howdy fellas. |
| [20:58:00] | laga: | heya D-side |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | long time no see. |
| [20:58:00] | D-side: | heh, indeed. |
| [20:58:00] | laga: | yep, indeed |
| [20:58:00] | laga: | old slacker |
| [20:59:00] | D-side: | laga: stop that. |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | how's Jersey treating ya? |
| [20:59:00] | D-side: | my box has been working fine. :) |
| [20:59:00] | D-side: | the usual. |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:59:00] | D-side: | i just noticed the cover image for the latest LJ. anyone read it yet? |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | I don't read my laser jet very often |
| [20:59:00] | D-side: | linuxjournal damnit |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:59:00] | laga: | Beirdo: linux journal |
| [21:00:00] | laga: | D-side: stop that |
| [21:00:00] | D-side: | laga: he knows that. |
| [21:00:00] | Beirdo: | I knew that |
| [21:00:00] | Beirdo: | I was bein a dick |
| [21:00:00] | Beirdo: | no, haven't seen it yet |
| [21:00:00] | laga: | i wish i could get my hands on one, but i dont feel like calling every book store near me to see if they carry any english magazines |
| [21:01:00] | D-side: | i've got a 25% off coupon at my favorite bookstore, so i'm headed that way anyway. going to cehck it out. |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | wish my fiancee would call me, I'm so bored of working |
| [21:01:00] | D-side: | tell me about it. |
| [21:01:00] | D-side: | things arent going well at work for me, so now i try to do as little as possible. :) |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | well, I'm kinda looking for another job far away |
| [21:02:00] | D-side: | gah there goes the doing nohting. afk. |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | so I'm kinda cruising as much as I can |
| [21:02:00] | D-side: | talk in a bit |
| [21:02:00] | kormoc: | http://print.google.com is live |
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| [21:10:00] | D-side: | Beirdo: so, how far away? |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | over 2000 miles |
| [21:10:00] | D-side: | thats far, yes. |
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| [21:52:00] | a1fa: | OMFG |
| [21:52:00] | a1fa: | my download is so slow |
| [21:52:00] | a1fa: | 9MB/min |
| [21:52:00] | laga: | 7kick a1fa |
| [21:52:00] | a1fa: | ufff |
| [21:52:00] | a1fa: | it just droped to 4mb/min |
| [21:52:00] | a1fa: | OC12 sucks |
| [21:52:00] | a1fa: | i need to upgrade to oc24 |
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| [21:54:00] | laga: | all you do is hanging around, asking people to give you access to their mythtv servers and brag about your fast pipe. |
| [21:54:00] | laga: | get a life. |
| [21:55:00] | a1fa: | god man.. this is so slow.. it climbed back to 7mbit a sec |
| [21:55:00] | a1fa: | 7mb/s :( still way to slow |
| [21:55:00] | laga: | Beirdo: duh. |
| [21:55:00] | a1fa: | uff. downloaded 600mb knoppmyth iso in 3minutes :( |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | a1fa: you take pleasure in being a dick, don't you? |
| [21:56:00] | a1fa: | ;( no man.. i am complaining |
| [21:56:00] | a1fa: | this is too slow.. |
| [21:57:00] | a1fa: | so here is my question.. how do frontend and backend interact w/ eachother |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | well, complain about 7mbit being slow somewhere else. |
| [21:57:00] | a1fa: | its 7 MB/s actually on average |
| [21:57:00] | a1fa: | i think, my hard-drive was limit |
| [21:57:00] | a1fa: | 8 mb/s buffer |
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| [21:58:00] | a1fa: | its ok man.. |
| [21:58:00] | a1fa: | its not that i am bragging |
| [21:58:00] | a1fa: | i whish we all had the same speed |
| [21:59:00] | a1fa: | it would make our lives much easier |
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| [22:00:00] | a1fa: | i think by 2020 we will have 7MB/s upload speeds |
| [22:00:00] | a1fa: | in every household |
| [22:00:00] | a1fa: | but this is a dream come true |
| [22:00:00] | darkfire_: | when do i get the self-replicating nanomachines to carry my bits to the internet? |
| [22:00:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [22:01:00] | a1fa: | when you pay for them, son, when you pay for them |
| [22:01:00] | a1fa: | do good in school |
| [22:01:00] | a1fa: | that was harsh |
| [22:01:00] | a1fa: | that 600 mb iso took all my hd bandwidth |
| [22:01:00] | a1fa: | i had a slow down |
| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | poor baby |
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| [22:05:00] | a1fa: | laga : mein freund |
| [22:06:00] | a1fa: | was ist dein problem? |
| [22:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | If your HD can only write at 8megabits per sec then you have a slow drive or DMA issues |
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| [22:09:00] | a1fa: | what is deb rep for mythtv |
| [22:09:00] | a1fa: | so i can apt-get |
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| [22:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not being a debian user I can't help ya there |
| [22:12:00] | a1fa: | clear |
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| [22:13:00] | a1fa: | yeah man.. i need my aopts ;P |
| [22:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | aopts ? |
| [22:14:00] | a1fa: | i sneezed |
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| [22:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | err ok |
| [22:15:00] | gakalkag: | deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv |
| [22:15:00] | gakalkag: | eb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv |
| [22:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Blah, this process takes too long. Not sure if It's something I can fix or not as it's DB related |
| [22:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | I suppose I could build a big list in ram with a single query rather than a query per rom.... oh well. Enough of this for now |
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| [22:23:00] | ivor: | bah. wives. grumble grumble. |
| [22:23:00] | a1fa: | i wonder if knoppyxmyth |
| [22:23:00] | a1fa: | writes to your HD anything |
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| [22:24:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v o_cee | |
| [22:24:00] | a1fa: | i'd be so pissed off |
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| [22:26:00] | a1fa: | i wonder what kind of partition should i run |
| [22:27:00] | a1fa: | i got 80 gb disk |
| [22:27:00] | a1fa: | i dont know how i should partition it |
| [22:27:00] | a1fa: | what do you guys suggest? |
| [22:28:00] | a1fa: | i was thinking to store all my videos |
| [22:28:00] | a1fa: | somewhere /there |
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| [22:31:00] | gakalkag: | i got a new 300gb and i decided to try jfs |
| [22:31:00] | a1fa: | that any good? |
| [22:31:00] | a1fa: | i was thinking ext3 |
| [22:32:00] | a1fa: | grrr |
| [22:32:00] | a1fa: | mythtv |
| [22:32:00] | a1fa: | and knoppix |
| [22:32:00] | a1fa: | it doesnt have a demo mode :( |
| [22:32:00] | a1fa: | that is stuped |
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| [22:33:00] | a1fa: | wow |
| [22:33:00] | a1fa: | here we go :P |
| [22:33:00] | a1fa: | sudo |
| [22:34:00] | D-side: | laga: how do you put up with this? |
| [22:34:00] | a1fa: | due |
| [22:34:00] | a1fa: | pre-scaling theme images takes two days |
| [22:34:00] | a1fa: | a bit over kill |
| [22:34:00] | D-side: | thats because mythtv is crap. you should stop using it and buy a tivo. |
| [22:35:00] | a1fa: | dude |
| [22:35:00] | a1fa: | that is wrong |
| [22:35:00] | D-side: | based on what i've just seen here, i bet we can take up a collection to buy you one |
| [22:35:00] | a1fa: | stfu |
| [22:35:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [22:35:00] | D-side: | yes, clearly i'm the one who needs to do so. |
| [22:35:00] | a1fa: | dont be rude man |
| [22:35:00] | a1fa: | dont hate the player, hate the game :! |
| [22:35:00] | D-side: | a1fa: i'll make you a deal |
| [22:35:00] | a1fa: | tell me |
| [22:35:00] | D-side: | i'll stop being rude, if you stop being stupid |
| [22:36:00] | a1fa: | ouch.. low self esteam? |
| [22:36:00] | a1fa: | it is ok man.. |
| [22:37:00] | a1fa: | i know you didnt mean to say that |
| [22:37:00] | D-side: | oh, i meant it. |
| [22:37:00] | a1fa: | nah you didnt |
| [22:38:00] | a1fa: | i like mythtv.. much better than tivo |
| [22:38:00] | D-side: | i *certainly* did. |
| [22:39:00] | a1fa: | i love the SIP plugin for mythtv |
| [22:39:00] | a1fa: | no you didnt |
| [22:39:00] | D-side: | Beirdo: you are indeed a patient man. |
| [22:39:00] | a1fa: | they are friendly.. good people |
| [22:40:00] | D-side: | that or you've just been afk for a long time. |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm, what? |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, been kinda working |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | and kinda not |
| [22:40:00] | D-side: | Beirdo: yeah same here. just came back to this window, and wow. |
| [22:40:00] | D-side: | its amazing you let this one stick around. |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, some people are... interesting |
| [22:41:00] | D-side: | any rumors of a pending release? |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [22:41:00] | D-side: | good. god knows if there was one I'd screw it up and bone my perfectly working box. :) |
| [22:43:00] | D-side: | oh well. thtas enough of that |
| [22:43:00] | D-side: | Beirdo, laga: be good. laters. |
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| [22:54:00] | a1fa: | d-side |
| [22:54:00] | a1fa: | i lov eu |
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| [23:12:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, you around? |
| [23:16:00] | Beirdo: | home time |
| [23:21:00] | a1fa: | cabkeke |
| [23:21:00] | a1fa: | :O |
| [23:21:00] | a1fa: | ekeke |
| [23:21:00] | a1fa: | i am out |
| [23:21:00] | a1fa: | night |
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| [23:27:00] | xris: | beavis: as of svn last night, you need the database parameters in the .htaccess or virtual host definition |
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| [23:36:00] | darkskiez: | When i try and tune with DVB, i put in the frequency of a darvel channel, myth picks this up as a blackhill transmission and tries the wrong frequencies, even ignoring the one that got the lock in the first place :( |
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