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Wednesday, November 2nd, 2005, 00:03 UTC
[00:03:00] simon_c_home: Eh Up all.
[00:04:00] simon_c_home: Just recorded some shows back to back last night, with the settings set to start 2 mins early and to end 2 mins after the show. Ended up missing the end of some shows as it was on the start of another one.
[00:05:00] simon_c_home: Is there any way to make the scheduler a bit cleverer in this situation ? So if there's a conflict, it will end on time, and not start early ? Or some other configurable behaviour ?
[00:05:00] simon_c_home: (personally, I prefere to miss the first couple of mins of a show, rather than the last)
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[00:12:00] Beirdo: the scheduler did what it was told
[00:12:00] Beirdo: don't tell it to do that :)
[00:13:00] Beirdo: or get a second tuner
[00:13:00] Beirdo: all will be well
[00:13:00] simon_c_home: Beirdo: I take your point, but the shedular didn't quite do as it was told, cos it couldn't record two things at once.
[00:14:00] simon_c_home: Beirdo: I'm arguing that in that situation there should be some (easy) way of influancing what the schedular will actually do.
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[00:25:00] GeekZoid: hi
[00:25:00] GeekZoid: can you watch a tv program and record at the same time with myth
[00:25:00] opello: if you have 2 tuners, or one of the shows is recorded
[00:25:00] GeekZoid: ok thanx
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[00:33:00] GeekZoid: hi
[00:33:00] GeekZoid: if i have mythv set to record a show
[00:34:00] GeekZoid: does the frontend have to be running
[00:34:00] kormoc: nope
[00:37:00] kevogod: Can MythTV get information about programming from Analog TV?
[00:39:00] FunkyELF: hey guys....if I had a video source that had channels 1 through 50 associated with it, then I added another video source that had 1 through 500 associated with it....then I deleted the video source that had 1 through 500, why do I still see all those channels in the program guide and in mythweb and so on?
[00:39:00] AndyCap: kevogod: iirc, no, but people use xmltv to grab listings for analog
[00:40:00] kormoc: kevogod, zap2it provides listings for analog tv
[00:40:00] FunkyELF: I deleted the card that was associated with the video source, then I delete the video source
[00:40:00] kormoc: FunkyELF, you need to clean out the old ones, mythfilldatabase only updates, so you still have 14 (or less) days with 500 channels
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[00:41:00] FunkyELF: kormoc, I went into the database and deleted all records, then ran mythfilldatabase....same thing except now it shows "no data" for all those other channels
[00:41:00] kormoc: odd...
[00:42:00] FunkyELF: ...and by deleted all records, I mean "delete from program;"
[00:42:00] FunkyELF: when does stuff ever get deleted from the channel table?
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[00:43:00] GeekZoid: how do i make mythtvfrontend viewing better?
[00:43:00] GeekZoid: so it looks better?
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[00:44:00] Jelte: hiya guys.. finally got Myth setup .. looking goooood.. just one problem: mythfilldatabase doesn't work. XMLTV bails out with unexpected end of file
[00:45:00] Jelte: and just before that it says ~/.mythtv/mysource.xmltv does not exist, run me with --configure
[00:45:00] Jelte: ?
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[00:45:00] FunkyELF: anyone here know sql? I want something that does delete from channel where channum > 100
[00:45:00] xris: Jelte: and did you set up the xmltv stuff in mythtv-setup?
[00:46:00] xris: FunkyELF: that doesn't work?
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[00:46:00] FunkyELF: xris, I don't know sql, is that the right thing to use...a greater than '>' sign?
[00:46:00] xris: yeah. that looked perfect, except the missing ;
[00:47:00] Jelte: xris, yeah but perhaps i left something incorrectly... can i run mythtv-setup again now? since everything else seems to run... or should i use the mythfrontend and then go to setup?
[00:47:00] xris: Jelte: setup first, then mythfilldatabase
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[00:47:00] xris: no frontend until after mythfilldatabase runs
[00:47:00] Jelte: xris: i did do the setup first, then the filldatabase filled, but then i did run the frontend... i'll do those three steps again i guess?
[00:49:00] Jelte: is the database supposed to be mythconverg ?
[00:50:00] xris: yup
[00:50:00] xris: right, but did you set up the xmltv stuff in mythtv-setup?
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[00:51:00] Jelte: well it gave me the two database screens that had the db settings on them, but thats it... not sure what you mean with "xmltv stuff"
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[01:12:00] mchou: anyone here have an full ATX socket 939 agp mobo w/firewire on board? I'm having no luck finding one......
[01:13:00] FunkyELF: myth keeps on freezing now when I go into machine status...it doesn't show any comm flagging jobs
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[01:16:00] FunkyELF: anybody know where it stores information about what has been comm flagged and what hasn't?
[01:17:00] Juski: erm.. in the DB?
[01:18:00] Juski: FunkyELF: of course, in the **recorded** table :)
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[01:18:00] Juski: the 'commflagged' column, I believe
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[01:32:00] smoke_: i just recompiled my mythtv setup and some of the settings are still there... i dropped my mythconverg database and removed the ~/.mythtv dir .. what else would be left?
[01:33:00] LasseL: the mythtv user?
[01:34:00] smoke_: thats not it :/
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[01:49:00] smoke_: no one here knows how to complete remove and uninstall mythtv?
[01:50:00] |rt|: smoke depends on the distro
[01:50:00] |rt|: but rm -rf / should do the trick :)
[01:50:00] kevogod: make sure you have root privileges
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[01:58:00] smoke_: i really dont get whats the problem rihgt now
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[01:59:00] smoke_: i just installed it,, to /usr/local for the prefix
[01:59:00] smoke_: and it keeps trying to look in /usr/share/mythtv instead of /usr/local/share/mythtv for the themes... whats going on?
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[02:16:00] abescully: I have a PVR-500. Both /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 work great for recording, but /dev/video0 works for LiveTV and /dev/video1 doesn't.
[02:17:00] abescully: I see TV for about 1 second and then it stops: (prebuffering pause, readstringlist timeout, remote encoder not responding, ...)
[02:19:00] abescully: but cat /dev/video1 works great even when LiveTV fails.
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[02:30:00] smoke_: hey guys i made some modifications to the mythtv code, so the dialog box for the pre-scaling theme images progress bar wouldn't pop up, but now im trying to get it back and it wont come back on, im using the original mythtv tarball, and for some reasoni cant uninstall or revert the changes... anyone have any idea why this is happening?
[02:30:00] smoke_: i removed the ~/.mythtv dir and the mysql mythconverg database and its still doing this
[02:32:00] kormoc: Beirdo, btw, I'm over to nfs, and god, it was painless out the wazoo. Thanks!
[02:32:00] kormoc: Beirdo, so whenever you have a min or what not, you mentioned some tweaks?
[02:33:00] smoke_: kormoc, you know anything about htis man? .. its driving me nuts... im like wtf
[02:34:00] kormoc: smoke_, you'll need to remove all the binarys as well, usually installed into /usr/local/bin and what not
[02:34:00] smoke_: kormoc, i did
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[02:34:00] smoke_: i dont get why this is happening its almost unreal.
[02:35:00] kormoc: smoke_, so what exactly did you do?
[02:35:00] smoke_: kormoc, i removed everything from
[02:36:00] smoke_: : /usr/share/mythtv /usr/lib/mythtv ~/.mythtv and the mythconverg database
[02:36:00] smoke_: and the binaries in /usr/bin
[02:36:00] smoke_: and i reinstalled it into /usr/local as the prefix
[02:36:00] smoke_: and now its looking for all the info in /usr prefix
[02:36:00] smoke_: its really wierd
[02:36:00] smoke_: and when i commit changes to the code .. they dont get added in :/
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[02:37:00] FunkyELF: what could cause "Machine Status" under system status to freeze?
[02:37:00] kormoc: smoke_, which mythfrontend
[02:38:00] smoke_: kormoc, what you mean by which mythfrontend?
[02:38:00] kormoc: smoke_, type which mythfrontend
[02:38:00] smoke_: k
[02:39:00] kormoc: smoke_, it should give the entire path to the frontend binary it's launching
[02:39:00] kormoc: make sure it's the one you compiled
[02:40:00] smoke_: yeah
[02:40:00] smoke_: its pciking the right one :/
[02:40:00] kormoc: odd
[02:40:00] kormoc: did you run ldconfig ?
[02:40:00] kormoc: (as root)
[02:41:00] smoke_: yeah
[02:41:00] smoke_: im going to get into this ... this is pissing me off
[02:41:00] smoke_: does make uninstall or make install overwrite hte old binaries
[02:41:00] smoke_: or will my old binaries still be there?
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[02:44:00] kormoc: make install with the same prefix should overwrite the old ones
[02:44:00] smoke_: thats what i thought :/
[02:45:00] smoke_: ill maunally delte them
[02:45:00] FunkyELF: ...anyone? What could cause mythfrontend to freeze when I go to "machine status" ?
[02:45:00] smoke_: see what happens from there...
[02:45:00] smoke_: there isnt an optiont o turn off the prescaling is there? .. becasue i just commented the section out on my last compile and now when i uncomment it and wont come back up (the dialog box that is)
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[02:48:00] kormoc: FunkyELF, restart the backend
[02:48:00] kormoc: smoke_, no there isn't I don't beleive
[02:49:00] kormoc: anyway, best of luck fixing things, I'm out.
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[02:52:00] abescully: what does "remote encoder not responding" mean?
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[03:58:00] eidolon: evenin folks.
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[04:04:00] pixelpixi: hi.
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[04:38:00] smoke_: someone around?
[04:38:00] ** _Nero_ waves **
[04:39:00] smoke_: hey guys i made some modifications to the mythtv code, so the dialog box for the pre-scaling theme images progress bar wouldn't pop up, but now im trying to get it back and it wont come back on, im using the original mythtv tarball, and for some reasoni cant uninstall or revert the changes... anyone have any idea why this is happening?
[04:40:00] _Nero_: smoke_ have to ask it- did you re-compile and re-install?
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[04:40:00] smoke_: yes
[04:40:00] _Nero_: just making sure.. ;)
[04:40:00] Chutt: stop spamming the channels.
[04:40:00] smoke_: i even manually removed all the libs/binaries and dirs in share/mythtv ... nothing
[04:40:00] smoke_: sorry chutt
[04:40:00] Chutt: you've been told before about other things
[04:40:00] _Nero_: are you sure you installed to the same directory?
[04:40:00] smoke_: Chutt, ooh you are knowledgable, you know whats happening?
[04:40:00] Chutt: i'm not going to help you.
[04:40:00] smoke_: :/
[04:41:00] smoke_: Chutt, can you at least tell me if its a simple problem? or something you dont know about?
[04:41:00] Chutt: it's nothing related to myth.
[04:41:00] smoke_: ive been working on this for like 5 hrs now... and i can't figure out.
[04:41:00] smoke_: k... where would you know
[04:41:00] smoke_: err
[04:41:00] smoke_: do you know somewhere ic an ask that would know? ..
[04:41:00] Chutt: no.
[04:41:00] smoke_: k.
[04:44:00] _Nero_: it sounds to me like 1) you arent installing the new binary/libs correctly, 2) you have a couple copies of myth on the system, and are launching the "wrong" one
[04:45:00] Chutt: that's what he was told hours ago.
[04:46:00] _Nero_: doh..
[04:46:00] Chutt: it is, of course, the problem.
[04:47:00] Chutt: but hey, i guess it's too complicated
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[04:53:00] Beirdo: oh cool. the palm trees at our new house are foxtail palms. native to Queensland, Australia
[04:54:00] Beirdo: got aussie trees growing in front of our house :)
[04:54:00] ** _Nero_ has some brown grass native to New Jersey "growing" in his front yard.. **
[04:55:00] Beirdo: yeah well, that's what you get for living in Jersey, I guess :)
[04:55:00] _Nero_: tell me about it.. I told my wife, when she walks to get her masters in a couple years, I'll be waiting in the U-Haul, so we can get the heck outa here..
[04:55:00] Beirdo: hehe
[04:56:00] Beirdo: good man
[04:56:00] smoke_: unmm
[04:56:00] smoke_: im not that stupid guys
[04:56:00] Beirdo: where would ya want to be heading?
[04:56:00] smoke_: i only have 1 copy of mythtv, i made sure the new binaries were installed properly...
[04:56:00] _Nero_: Beirdo- I'd LOVE to end up in Colorado/Wyoming.. Denver is probably do-able, but I'd rather be somewhere like outside of Jackson.
[04:57:00] Beirdo: nice
[04:57:00] _Nero_: smoke_- if you recompiled with the stuff uncommented, got no errors, and installed it properly, you wouldn't have this problem.
[04:57:00] smoke_: _Nero_, heh..
[04:57:00] smoke_: _Nero_, thats what i thought too...
[04:58:00] _Nero_: Beirdo- yeah- it is beautiful out there..
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[04:59:00] _Nero_: smoke_ – you tried completely eliminating everything mythtv from your system (including the tarball), downloading the tarball again, and starting from scratch?
[04:59:00] Beirdo: too much snow in the winter, but I loved my trip to RMNP in the summer
[04:59:00] _Nero_: (such that, if you did an updatedb; locate mythtv nothing would come up)
[05:00:00] _Nero_: I grew up in MN, so I love the snow... :) (big skier)..
[05:00:00] Beirdo: OK, then CO is for you :)
[05:00:00] _Nero_: Though if someone gave me a villa in St. John to live in, I wouldn't turn that down either.. ;)
[05:00:00] Beirdo: do it, man
[05:00:00] Beirdo: heh
[05:00:00] Beirdo: well, for me, Dorado, PR is my intended destination
[05:01:00] _Nero_: yeah- we most likely will.. both of us kind of want to move back to MN too.. both of our families are there, and for raising kids, it would be nice to be near them..
[05:01:00] Beirdo: true
[05:01:00] _Nero_: yeah- you were mentioning that the other night.. plans starting to come together for that?
[05:01:00] Beirdo: well, need a job offer and then a work visa
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[05:01:00] Beirdo: but yeah, getting there
[05:02:00] _Nero_: thats good to hear.
[05:03:00] ** _Nero_ almost has the Ken Burns effect working in MythGallery.. **
[05:04:00] Beirdo: I can't wait to get down there and live in the tropics
[05:04:00] Beirdo: screw the snow
[05:04:00] _Nero_: hehe
[05:04:00] GreyFoxx: _Nero_: Which effect is that ?
[05:05:00] pixelpixi: i was wondering that too. apparently: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Burns#Ken_Burns_Effect
[05:05:00] _Nero_: GreyFoxx- it is the effect where you scroll/zoom in on a picture in a slideshow to make it look more "movie like"
[05:05:00] GreyFoxx: Haha I just pulled that up
[05:06:00] pixelpixi: we are one with the wiki
[05:06:00] _Nero_: Currently, it picks a random start and stop, and does the zooming.. am working on using the zoom/pan buttons in single view mode, to set a start and stop for each picture..
[05:06:00] GreyFoxx: _Nero_: Have you seen the new zoom blend effect ?
[05:06:00] _Nero_: that way you can put together a more "dynamic" slideshow.
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[05:06:00] GreyFoxx: It's similar to that ?
[05:06:00] _Nero_: GreyFoxx- I wrote it.. :)
[05:06:00] Beirdo: hehe
[05:06:00] GreyFoxx: Cool. I commited it :)
[05:07:00] _Nero_: And no.. not really.. Ken Burns is more for while you are viewing the picture..
[05:07:00] GreyFoxx: In fact, I think I knew at the time it was you who wrote it
[05:07:00] _Nero_: so it wont be a transition, but more of a "slide show" option
[05:07:00] GreyFoxx: Too much stuff flows through my head to keep it all in there
[05:07:00] _Nero_: hehe.. its all good.
[05:08:00] _Nero_: Well, gotta go pick up the wife at the train station.. bbiab..
[05:08:00] Beirdo: hehe
[05:08:00] Beirdo: I didn't know this
[05:08:00] Beirdo: the mango, cashew and poison ivy are all the same family of plants
[05:08:00] Beirdo: nice
[05:09:00] smoke_: _Nero_, yeah, i removed EVERYTHING, all the mythlibs in /usr/lib /usr/lib/mythtv /usr/share/mythtv /usr/bin/myth* ~/.mythtv the mythconverg database
[05:10:00] smoke_: the tarball.. redownloaded it.. thats whats blwoing my mind away im like wtf. ... this isnt really happening heh
[05:11:00] smoke_: and i know my question is lame as hell, but its really becoming a big problem :)
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[05:41:00] eidolon: hey, what would folks suggest for an 'okay' nvidia based card that has s-video and/or composite -outputs-. so i dont' need to run my video out on my VGA monitor?
[05:43:00] Agrajag-: fx5200
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[05:56:00] smoke_: wow still haven't figured it out :(...
[05:56:00] smoke_: this is crazy.
[06:02:00] pixelpixi: hah. Nero?
[06:02:00] pixelpixi: Ken Burns is on the Colbert Report tonight. How apropos.
[06:03:00] pixelpixi: oh, I guess he's gone.
[06:04:00] Agrajag-: smoke_: i think you should give up. it seriously isn't hard to figure out what's going on
[06:13:00] eidolon: looks like newegg has FX5200's for $30.
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[06:20:00] Atamido: The exciting conclusion is now available. http://orangeman.commo.de/conclusion.html
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[06:53:00] eidolon: http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000820066107/
[06:53:00] eidolon: gosh that makes a schweet mythtv front end chassis.
[07:01:00] laga: pentium m *drool*
[07:02:00] laga: Atamido: time for steak?
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[07:02:00] Atamido: Indeed.
[07:02:00] Atamido: Well, in a few days I think.
[07:03:00] laga: hehe ;)
[07:03:00] laga: sorry, i have to run to class now, bye :)
[07:03:00] ** Atamido waves. **
[07:03:00] eidolon: we'll see waht kind of pentium M :)
[07:03:00] eidolon: they're light on the specs right now :)
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[07:49:00] pixelpixi: hi xris.
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[07:50:00] xris: hi
[07:51:00] pixelpixi: i'm erin from the dev list.
[07:51:00] pixelpixi: how's it going?
[07:51:00] abescully: each time I start the backend, livetv freezes after 1 second on each PVR-500 tuner until a recording happens. So, I just scheduled 2 simultaneous recordings and livetv works on each tuner.
[07:51:00] abescully: anyone seen this before?
[07:52:00] xris: pretty good. tired. long day at work (granted, I've been playing rpg's with guys at work for the last 4–5 hours)
[07:52:00] xris: abescully: weird
[07:53:00] abescully: It took a few days to figure that out.
[07:53:00] pixelpixi: haha. well, i'm not sure you can count it as a long day when you're doing that, but i hear ya none the less.
[07:53:00] xris: well, 8–9 hours before that.
[07:54:00] xris: haven't seen my wife awake since last night.
[07:54:00] ** pixelpixi nods **
[07:54:00] xris: (and now she has her nose buried in her ibook working on one of the novels she's writing)
[07:55:00] pixelpixi: well, i'm too burnt to talk shop myself now anyway, but i wanted to say hello.
[07:55:00] pixelpixi: oo, novels? that sounds cool.
[07:55:00] xris: hope so. as long as she's happy.
[07:59:00] ** xris pokes Beirdo **
[07:59:00] abescully: what happens to the tuners during a show record that doesn't happen during livetv?
[08:00:00] abescully: or more appropriately, what happens to mythbackend during a show record that doesn't happen during livetv watch?
[08:00:00] fryfrog: what?
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[08:02:00] pixelpixi: i'm off for now. it was nice meeting you, xris.
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[08:04:00] abescully: livetv only works after mythbackend records a show on that tuner... PVR-500, mythtv-0.18.1, ivtv 0.4.0. anyone have a clue? 'cat /dev/videoX' works perfectly when livetv doesn't work, but doesn't fix the problem. mythbackend must do the recording to fix the problem.
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[08:11:00] abescully: is there somewhere where I can post more information about my problem?
[08:18:00] fryfrog: email list, but now i atleast understand your problem ;)
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[08:40:00] abarbaccia: hey all – anybody know how to use the nvidia drivers to offset an image on the TV? mine is to the left and down and probably needs to be scaled a bit too
[08:44:00] fryfrog: i used nvidia-settings
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[08:45:00] afrosheen: hello have a quick question about irw and lircd
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[09:01:00] dgrant: How much disk space should I use for my root? excluding media
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[09:08:00] abarbaccia: dgrant, depends which distro – but ususally 6 or 7 gigs should do it
[09:12:00] fryfrog: dgrant: you can also just assign *all* your space to / and be perfectly happy
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[09:17:00] dgrant: abarbaccia: really? wow. Well I'm trying with 2G. I only have a 10G hard drive. Just testing mythtv and this hauppauge card with this motherboard. Then I'll get a new hard drive
[09:17:00] dgrant: just made this box with some spare parts laying around
[09:17:00] abarbaccia: oh, well its perfectly fine to do it that way
[09:17:00] abarbaccia: i just usually play it safe and dont try to narrow the install
[09:17:00] dgrant: abarbaccia: I actually use gentoo but I can mount portage with nfs
[09:17:00] abarbaccia: which distro are you using – and if you are just testing – i would go and assign all your space to /
[09:18:00] abarbaccia: im not good with gentoo so i can't help ya there
[09:18:00] dgrant: abarbaccia: I could just make everything / I guess
[09:18:00] abarbaccia: do it that way – especially for a testing purpose
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[10:39:00] TaD: any idea what I need to configure to make this message go away "DVB#0 ERROR – Could not find dvb tuning parameters for transport 0" ... when I try to scan for channels none can be found
[10:40:00] TaD: I can tune the card using tzap, and watch tv using xine, just can't seem to get mythtv to work
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[10:59:00] bk2: hey all
[10:59:00] bk2: anyone able to offer advise on a problem
[10:59:00] bk2: getting artifacting onscreen when changing channels
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[10:59:00] bk2: input from cable tv via composite into a pvr 150
[11:00:00] bk2: and out a nvidia 5200 via svideo
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[12:12:00] bk2: damn, thought I had it working
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[13:34:00] juski: any uk DVB-T users here today? Just read about Sky THREE... (?????).. done a scan & it seems Sky Travel is still listed
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[13:44:00] fryfrog: ls
[13:44:00] fryfrog: oops
[13:49:00] juski: ahhh! it IS actually Sky Three – it's just that the channel name in the service hasn't been updated yet :/
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[13:52:00] juski: so that's yet another new xmltv ID.. this is really getting silly now (and ITV are launching yet another channel soon!)
[14:03:00] otwin: juski: hi, do you have colour osd on your minimyth frontend?
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[14:10:00] juski: otwin.. no
[14:11:00] juski: ARGHHH! just found out I missed the 2nd half of a show which was interrupted by the nightly news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ****ing ****s. Hmm this might call for a patch
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[14:13:00] juski: was looking forward to watching that show tonight... may aswell delete it now
[14:14:00] juski: :(
[14:14:00] otwin: juski: but on the transcoded files (that don't play properly on normal speed) the osd has colour – do you know why?
[14:15:00] juski: oh.. the OSD gets colour when I try to play transcoded files.. I thought you were talking in general terms
[14:15:00] juski: (it turns red or green)
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[14:21:00] juski: just thinking about that scheduling issue.. might be easy enough to fix in the frontend.. but in mythweb?
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[14:22:00] JohnP789: What's the best way to convert my PVR-500 NUV files to MPG files? I don't want to re-encode.
[14:23:00] juski: johnP789: they ARE MPeg files, if you haven't already transcoded em
[14:23:00] _Nero_: John- they should just open as mpeg2s..
[14:24:00] JohnP789: juski, But the container is NUV. I want to get the raw stream out so I can play it on Windows. (To share with a guy at work)
[14:24:00] juski: use VLC
[14:24:00] juski: and don't share :(
[14:24:00] JohnP789: VLC can play my NUV files? That's great!
[14:24:00] juski: vlc can play MPEG files
[14:25:00] juski: for PVR or DVB cards, nuv is just the file extension
[14:25:00] JohnP789: I didn't realize that. Cool!
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[14:25:00] juski: you mean you didn't try to open the file in anything but WMP lol
[14:26:00] JohnP789: I didn't try copying the NUV file, because I thought it was some oddball container format.
[14:26:00] JohnP789: Also, I need to copy just the first 600MB of a 2GB file to a USB flash device.
[14:26:00] JohnP789: (Hunting through man pages....)
[14:28:00] JohnP789: OK, split looks like a good quick-and-dirty way to do it.
[14:28:00] ille: man head
[14:29:00] JohnP789: Yeah, or head.  :-)
[14:29:00] ille: :)
[14:30:00] JohnP789: It's amazing how much one can learn in the last 10 minutes before leaving for work!
[14:31:00] JohnP789: I have one of the Philips 642 play-anything DVD players. I'll have to try copying some NUV files to DVD+RWs and see if they play. They should, right?
[14:31:00] _Nero_: maybe..
[14:31:00] ille: try rename them to .mpg first
[14:32:00] _Nero_: you might have to rename the extention from nuv to mpg
[14:32:00] JohnP789: Sure
[14:32:00] JohnP789: Wonder if my 480x480 files will look right.....
[14:32:00] _Nero_: they should..
[14:32:00] JohnP789: That'll be great!
[14:34:00] JohnP789: Just about got bit by something. I copied a big file to a USB stick, then right-click-unmounted it in Gnome.
[14:34:00] JohnP789: Gnome removed it from the desktop, but it was still mounted for the next ~10 seconds, probably syncing.
[14:35:00] ille: btw, windoze media player plays .nuv if they are renamed to .mpg
[14:35:00] JohnP789: Well, gotta run. Thanks a lot!
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[15:59:00] Beirdo: Ugh
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[16:01:00] Beirdo: someone let in an aussie!
[16:01:00] Beirdo: heya, adante_
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[16:01:00] adante_: howdy doody :)
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[16:02:00] adante_: what's up?
[16:02:00] Beirdo: just found out last night that the palm trees at the new house are from Queensland originally :)
[16:02:00] Beirdo: hehe
[16:02:00] Beirdo: ye olde foxtail palm
[16:02:00] adante_: lol great – so am i!
[16:03:00] dbroo_: hi all. i've upgraded to SVN (a few nights ago), and my two DVBT cards are buggered. instead of showing a good clear picture as they did, the picture is all boxed in, about half size? any ideas what might of happened? thank you very much for any help you can give
[16:03:00] Beirdo: too bad the previous owner planted them like 2 feet from the house
[16:03:00] Beirdo: retards
[16:04:00] adante_: haha well glad ya enjoy anaussie product other than water rats
[16:04:00] adante_: i'm not too familiar with the name so i'll have to look up this foxtail palm..
[16:04:00] Beirdo: heh
[16:04:00] Beirdo: well, I don't get to enjoy it for a few more months, I still have to deal with getting a job and a work permit
[16:04:00] Beirdo: heh
[16:04:00] Beirdo: but yeah
[16:04:00] Beirdo: they are endangered in AU, apparently.
[16:05:00] dbroo_: is there anywhere else i can ask ? i don't have a tree problem sadly ;)
[16:05:00] adante_: hmm.. where are you?
[16:05:00] Beirdo: adante: the house is in Puerto Rico
[16:05:00] adante_: dbroo_: sorry i can't help.. i'm still on 18.1
[16:05:00] dbroo_: thanks adante_
[16:06:00] Beirdo: dbroo_: I can't help with DVB, I know nothing about DVB operation :(
[16:06:00] dbroo_: thanks Beirdo
[16:06:00] Beirdo: not a problem
[16:06:00] adante_: hmm foxtail palm looks pretty regular to me.. guess i'm not a palm conoisseur
[16:07:00] Beirdo: heh
[16:07:00] Beirdo: the leaves are pretty unique
[16:07:00] Beirdo: anyways, they are pretty, but we may need to replant the poor things further from the house
[16:07:00] Beirdo: they grow to about 30 feet, ours are about 15 feet
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[16:09:00] Beirdo: anyways, hows the spring in AU treating you?
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[17:24:00] juski: has anyone done any development to enable recording a show, where the show is split into two or more parts by another show inbetween? Every now & again I get caught out by a channel splitting a programme into two parts seperated by news. Would this just be as 'simple'
[17:24:00] juski: oops.. be as simple as adding a 'record all occurences of this show today' scheduling option?
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[17:35:00] juski: hmm I can already see this will need a new rectype set up
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[17:44:00] juski: maybe I'll just put a hack into mythweb so it records all occurences of a show by default. for now I'd rather have too many recordings than miss something I want to watch
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[17:57:00] juski: ah well .. just 'record at any time on channel' will be my setting of choice from now on. God I hate schedulers who split programmes.
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[18:02:00] Naery: User to user channel eh? I do have a question, but it's not really precise.
[18:02:00] afrosheenix: Yeah I have one of those too
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[18:03:00] Naery: I'd like to know.... is there 'a' good way to start a complex project? dammit, a way to find a good way?
[18:03:00] afrosheenix: What kind of project are you talking about
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[18:04:00] afrosheenix: Question for the lurkers: my pvr250 is working fine, my remote is accepting commands and irw proves it, but myth isn't responding to any keypresses..where should I start looking to fix it
[18:04:00] Naery: I'm building a plugin based front-end for urpmi and the likes
[18:05:00] afrosheenix: Oh no...the mysterious world of urpmi with nearly zero dev support
[18:05:00] Naery: eh, talk about it
[18:05:00] laga: Naery: duh. this is the user to user support channel for MythTV ;)
[18:05:00] afrosheenix: You may try asking in #mandriva but they probably won't know either
[18:06:00] Naery: well, iu guess i didn't realise that
[18:06:00] Naery: but my problem was more of a design level problem
[18:07:00] Naery: MythTV... is it any good? ;)
[18:09:00] Naery: I'll leave youi guys to your calling, C yas
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[18:13:00] juski: calling? what hell he think we is? monks?
[18:13:00] rjune: monks with bad english apparently
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[18:14:00] juski: lol
[18:14:00] ivor: I think he just decided to stumble into a random channel and ask weird questions.
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[18:37:00] juski: hometime!
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[18:54:00] Ryushin: Hey look at this: http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/05/11/0 . . . &tid=137 To bad we probably won't see drivers for linux.
[18:54:00] laga: Ryushin: mythtv.beirdo.ca look for gpu transcode
[18:55:00] Beirdo: heh
[18:55:00] Beirdo: now we just need to clone me and get me some help and I can work on it
[18:56:00] laga: try regular reproduction ;))
[18:56:00] kormoc: Beirdo, I can help with moral support!
[18:56:00] Beirdo: bah, regular reproduction won't help
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[18:57:00] laga: Beirdo: yet it's fun
[18:57:00] laga: uh, nevermind
[18:57:00] Beirdo: yeah, it can wait
[18:58:00] Ryushin: Beirdo: Well I would clone you but I've been having problems with the clones themselves. It seems the clones don't think they are the clones but the original. And then comes the problem if time sharing your wife. Just not worth it.
[18:58:00] Beirdo: heh
[18:58:00] kormoc: Ryushin, tis why you clone him *before* he gets married
[18:59:00] laga: clone his wife
[18:59:00] Ryushin: LOL. What a great idea. No wait. Having one wife is more than enough.
[19:00:00] Beirdo: heh
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[19:12:00] kormoc: so Beirdo, I'm running NFS now, you mentioned some tricks for it?
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[19:12:00] Beirdo: I use (in fstab)
[19:12:00] Beirdo: barrel:/opt/video /opt/video nfs rsize=32768,wsize=32768,
[19:12:00] Beirdo: soft,posix,nfsvers=3,bg 2 2
[19:13:00] Beirdo: the rsize and wsize are important to increase the performance
[19:13:00] ** kormoc nods **
[19:13:00] Beirdo: soft, posix, bg good to have it act more like it's a local disk (as seen by the user)
[19:13:00] Beirdo: and nfsvers=3 should be obvious :)
[19:14:00] laga: thanks. i hope it increases boot time on my diskless frontend ;)=
[19:14:00] Beirdo: man mount will show the details of those option, I believe
[19:14:00] Beirdo: no prob, laga.
[19:14:00] ** kormoc nods **
[19:14:00] kormoc: thanks :)
[19:14:00] Beirdo: the default is 8k or 4k (I forget which)
[19:14:00] watje: [4556313.337000] ivtv0: Could not detect tuner standard, defaulting to NTSC.
[19:14:00] watje: how can I change it to PAL?
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[19:14:00] Beirdo: 32k windows make it much better throughput
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[19:17:00] ** kormoc nods **
[19:17:00] Beirdo: OMG, I'm hungry
[19:17:00] Beirdo: I think I'll go get some lunch
[19:18:00] ** xris dreams of free pizza for lunch **
[19:19:00] ** Beirdo dreams of mufongo for lunch **
[19:19:00] Beirdo: not gonna happen, so I'll have to get something "normal"
[19:19:00] Beirdo: bah
[19:19:00] Beirdo: be back in a bit
[19:20:00] Rince: :-)
[19:20:00] ** Rince dreams of ffmpeg-cvs running on amd64... **
[19:20:00] ** Rince has impossible dreams, he know... **
[19:20:00] Rince: +s
[19:20:00] Chutt: why's that impossible?
[19:20:00] Chutt: ffmpeg's been running on amd64 for ages.
[19:21:00] Rince: not the cvs-version
[19:21:00] Chutt: err
[19:21:00] Rince: at least I am not able to compile it
[19:21:00] Chutt: yes it has.
[19:21:00] Chutt: then you're doing something wrong.
[19:21:00] Rince: well – what is wrong on a "make" ?
[19:21:00] Chutt: i wouldn't know
[19:22:00] kormoc: Rince, the ./configure step before the make?
[19:22:00] Rince: well – I did that :)
[19:22:00] kormoc: with the correct options?
[19:22:00] Chutt: ffmpeg cvs as of right now compiles fine on amd64
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[19:22:00] kormoc: http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/compat.php
[19:22:00] kormoc: "These tests were conducted on Friday, February 4, 2005 with the FFmpeg CVS copy from that day. Also, the machine generating the files was an AMD64 computer."
[19:23:00] Chutt: mythtv (which uses most of ffmpeg, and the cvs version at that) has been running fine on amd64 to my _personal_ experience for at least 6 months.
[19:23:00] Rince: well – i do use mythtv on my machine
[19:23:00] Rince: but I can not compile the current cvs-system
[19:23:00] Chutt: so, obviously, you're doing something wrong.
[19:23:00] kormoc: maybe the current cvs is broken as well.
[19:23:00] Chutt: it's not, since i have it :p
[19:23:00] Chutt: i just updated last night, and again a minute or so ago
[19:23:00] kormoc: heh, fair nuff
[19:24:00] Chutt: i resynced myth's copy of libav* last night.
[19:24:00] Chutt: Linux Alkaid 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8-smp #1 SMP Mon Oct 10 13:18:18 BST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:24:00] Chutt: and i'm obviously using amd64 :p
[19:25:00] Rince: interesting... very strange
[19:28:00] watje: I only see fogg, and I find two possible reasons in dmesg:
[19:28:00] watje: [4557426.999000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:06.0[A] -> Link [APC3] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18
[19:28:00] watje: and [4557428.595000] ivtv0: Could not detect tuner standard, defaulting to NTSC.
[19:28:00] watje: must be PAL, but what's the trouble maker, and how can I fix it?
[19:28:00] watje: worked in the past
[19:29:00] ** Rince tried to get a working ffmpeg-version for nuvexport to get nuvexport running making a PSP-File, but this didn't work **
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[19:30:00] prologic: /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/liblibmythtv.so.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:30:00] prologic: Unable to initialize plugin 'mythtv'.
[19:30:00] prologic: Unable to run plugin 'mythtv': not initialized
[19:31:00] prologic: Any reason why I keep getting this on the termianl when running the myth frontend ?
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[19:33:00] Rince: prologic: does /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/liblibmythtv.so.so exist and is readable to you?
[19:34:00] prologic: no
[19:34:00] prologic: it does not
[19:34:00] kormoc: watje, ntsc is used in the us and canada, pal is mostly the rest of the world.
[19:35:00] FITH: Japan is NTSC too aren't they?
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[19:36:00] kormoc: FITH, could very well be, NTSC-JP I beleive
[19:36:00] kormoc: which is slightly different the NTSC?
[19:36:00] Rince: Hm. why does it have twice .so?
[19:36:00] dzentoo: hi all :)
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[19:36:00] kormoc: mornin
[19:39:00] dzentoo: kormoc: I think, I've got an hardware misconfiguration
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[19:41:00] kormoc: ooh?
[19:41:00] Rince: Chutt: ok, I have to be more specific. I tried ffmpeg-cvs, and this does work well up to a certain point. Have you tried the MH-extensions on them on amd64?
[19:41:00] GreyFoxx: Did you use some sort of package to install? That is wont messed up name and I've never seen the myth compile process generate anything like it
[19:42:00] GreyFoxx: That was for prologic heh
[19:42:00] dzentoo: I'm trying to have some images just with xawdecode
[19:43:00] dzentoo: and I don't have any signal
[19:43:00] prologic: hmm
[19:43:00] prologic: I'll consider recompiling everything
[19:43:00] prologic: could be a package issue in the crux ports
[19:44:00] prologic: everything works ok though
[19:44:00] watje: kormoc, sorry for late reaction, but how can I change it?
[19:44:00] watje: cant find it in ivtvctl -h
[19:44:00] prologic: btw, how can I set global recording options ? ie: record all shows 5mins before and after ?
[19:45:00] kormoc: watje, module parm to ivtv, ivtv_std=2 to set to pal, 1 to set to NTSC, 3 to set to SECAM
[19:45:00] watje: ok thank you
[19:46:00] GreyFoxx: prologic: Just look through the settings menu in mythfrontend. There is an option for that
[19:46:00] prologic: ok
[19:46:00] prologic: thans
[19:46:00] prologic: *thanks
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[19:47:00] watje: [4558547.736000] tuner: tuner type not set
[19:47:00] watje: hmm pvr-150 = tuner 59?
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[19:48:00] watje: [4558659.888000] tuner: type set to 59 (Ymec TVision TVF-5533MF) by ivtv i2c driver #0
[19:48:00] watje: hmm wrong
[19:48:00] GreyFoxx: I seem to remember a lot of 150 users have a tuner of 59
[19:50:00] watje: ok :/
[19:50:00] GreyFoxx: try loading tveeprom and see what that sees it as
[19:51:00] watje: nothing appears in dmesg
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[21:03:00] abarbaccia: anybody know how to change an nvidia driver to display the TV picture in the MIDDLE of the screen rather than off center – maybe adjust some X and Y coordinates
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[21:07:00] GreyFoxx: I've never seen any controls provided with the nvidia linux driver to control centering
[21:08:00] GreyFoxx: you could look at xvidtune and try to tweak the modeline to do it.
[21:08:00] laga: a little bit of overscanning doesn't hurt
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[21:09:00] GreyFoxx: One thing that sucks is that recent releases of the nvidia driver give me MUCH less overscan control than before
[21:09:00] laga: really? i haven't noticed, but i don't use nvidia much.
[21:09:00] GreyFoxx: I had values from 0 – 250 and 250 would comfortably push everything past the edges of my screens. Now with any 7xxx I have values from 0–25 and even at the max of 25 I still have some of the black border showing.
[21:10:00] GreyFoxx: I ignore it, but would rather have the amount of adjustment available that I use to have
[21:10:00] laga: my gf 4 mx 440 has some annoying green flicker at the bottom of the picture when using Xv.
[21:10:00] laga: GreyFoxx: you can probably set it directly in the xorg.conf or in nvidia-settings.rc
[21:10:00] GreyFoxx: laga: Nope tried all of that
[21:11:00] laga: :/
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[21:29:00] Bricktop: Any one here using alsa to output 6 speakers, not using spdif???
[21:29:00] afrosheen: wouldn't that be some special setting on your motherboard, i.e. combination of outputs?
[21:30:00] Bricktop: yep... turning mic and line in to outputs
[21:30:00] afrosheen: my nforce4 supports something like that and you have to use specific audio outs
[21:30:00] Bricktop: yep
[21:30:00] Bricktop: You haven't used it?
[21:30:00] afrosheen: nope, I don't have more than 2 speakers
[21:30:00] afrosheen: but it's in my manual :)
[21:30:00] Bricktop: :(
[21:31:00] afrosheen: what chipset is it
[21:31:00] Bricktop: CMI9761 (VIA 8237)
[21:31:00] afrosheen: probably the same as mine then
[21:31:00] afrosheen: but mine has like 6 outs/ins on the back
[21:31:00] Bricktop: I have something wierd in the alsamixer
[21:31:00] Bricktop: the Surround colum is empty
[21:32:00] Bricktop: I can only mute/unmounte it
[21:32:00] Bricktop: And I don't get sound from the Sourround speakers :(
[21:33:00] afrosheen: so you're still only getting stereo sound right
[21:33:00] Bricktop: Yep
[21:33:00] afrosheen: what device is alsa using
[21:33:00] Bricktop: I can even get Center and LFE
[21:33:00] Bricktop: surround51
[21:34:00] Bricktop: In the alsamixer there is the option Line in as surround, when I unmute it the silence become more silent
[21:34:00] Bricktop: (Eliminates the white noise)
[21:35:00] Bricktop: I guess that I don't hear from my rear speakers because of the Surround coloum is empty :(
[21:35:00] Bricktop: but i don't know how to fix it
[21:37:00] Bricktop: I have to have it fixed untill next week because I want to use this computer in an home theter exhabition.
[21:37:00] laga: running mythtv? nice. make sure to spread the word :)
[21:37:00] laga: and hand out knoppmyth discs ;)
[21:37:00] Bricktop: Alsa channel and mail list are unhelpful :(
[21:38:00] Bricktop: I builded LFS just for mythtv
[21:38:00] laga: Bricktop: it's possible that the sourround column is supposed to be empty and only used to turn it on or off
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[21:39:00] Bricktop: Yes, it is possible. thats why i am looking for someone with the same hardware, to hear how he configured his card.
[21:39:00] Bricktop: (the center and LFE has voloum control)
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[21:42:00] Bricktop: Where can i get that sort of information?
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[21:48:00] afrosheen: #alsa
[21:48:00] afrosheen: maybe
[21:49:00] afrosheen: do you have a Capture Monitor slider in alsamixer?
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[22:03:00] Juski: Bricktop: is it just that you're not playing back surround encoded material, or playing it with a suitable player?
[22:06:00] Juski: if it's DVD playback you're talking about, xine has lots of different audio output options (as does mplayer I believe)
[22:09:00] afrosheen: I think he's dead
[22:10:00] afrosheen: RIP Bricktop 1985–2005
[22:12:00] beavis: GreyFoxx: you've done the new keyboard feature?
[22:12:00] afrosheen: what keyboard feature
[22:15:00] GreyFoxx: beavis: Are you referring to the new onscreen keyboard ?
[22:15:00] beavis: yeah ;)
[22:15:00] GreyFoxx: I didn't write it, but I've seen it
[22:15:00] beavis: didn't know how it's called ;)
[22:16:00] GreyFoxx: I find it annoying so I have to go look and see where I can disable it :)
[22:16:00] beavis: I just wanted to rename a recording but it's not possible to leave the screen
[22:17:00] GreyFoxx: You are adding a screen to edit a recording or using one I just haven't seen yet ?:)
[22:18:00] Bricktop: Sorry, Gone to shower
[22:18:00] beavis: there's one ;)
[22:18:00] Bricktop: afrpsheen: there is no one answring in #alsa
[22:18:00] beavis: recording settings -> Change recording title
[22:18:00] Bricktop: Jusky: I am using "speaker-test -c 6 -D surround51"
[22:19:00] GreyFoxx: I'll have to look at it. I'm surpised it's not a simple popup
[22:19:00] beavis: when I press ENTER there it shows the new keyboard
[22:19:00] GreyFoxx: yeagh, all of the lineedits I've seen do that
[22:19:00] Juski: onscreen keyboard?! what will they think of next? ;)
[22:19:00] GreyFoxx: I have to use the arrow key to move to a line editbox
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[22:20:00] beavis: so how can I confirm the data I've entered there?
[22:20:00] Bricktop: afrosheen: I have two: Capture Monitor[,valid]
[22:20:00] Bricktop: afrosheen: And they are both off
[22:20:00] GreyFoxx: beavis: I've never seen that screen. Does it have a ok/done/finished button ?
[22:20:00] beavis: pressing enter shows the keyboard, esc leaves it without saving
[22:20:00] beavis: no ok
[22:21:00] GreyFoxx: Nothing but an edit line ?
[22:21:00] beavis: two edit lines
[22:21:00] beavis: title:
[22:21:00] beavis: subtitle:
[22:21:00] GreyFoxx: And that's all, no next or buttons of any kind ?
[22:21:00] beavis: yes
[22:22:00] GreyFoxx: Then you wont be saving your changes until someone either stopped it from popping up when you hit enter on any line edit, or adds a finished button you can navigate too
[22:23:00] beavis: great :)
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[22:24:00] afrosheen: Bricktop: sounds like you're chasing down the same path I am
[22:24:00] beavis: GreyFoxx: I don't like the way myth uses to save settings
[22:24:00] beavis: GreyFoxx: sometimes you have to press ESC to SAVE!
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[22:24:00] beavis: that's not the usual way to save data ;)
[22:25:00] Chutt: you never press esc to save.
[22:25:00] beavis: (in mythtv-setup)
[22:26:00] beavis: so how do you leave the screen showing you your tv cards etc?
[22:27:00] Juski: select NEXT until you see the screen with FINISH.. then select FINISH and press enter...
[22:27:00] beavis: there's no next or finish there
[22:28:00] Juski: you on a TV output, beavis?
[22:28:00] Juski: it might be that you just can't see it because it's off the screen
[22:28:00] beavis: on 2, 3, 4, 5 in mythtv-setup
[22:28:00] afrosheen: yeah
[22:28:00] beavis: hehe
[22:28:00] beavis: just open the tv card list
[22:28:00] Chutt: are you talking about the selection screens?
[22:28:00] Chutt: there's nothing to save there.
[22:28:00] beavis: you HAVE to press esc to leave it
[22:29:00] Chutt: there are finish/cancel buttons in all the screens where you're actually making changes.
[22:29:00] mchou: beavis: how about the back button? :)
[22:29:00] beavis: back?
[22:30:00] beavis: only esc leaves the selection screen
[22:30:00] afrosheen: I have a pvr250 with a remote, when I use irw it's receiving all the button presses but myth does nothing
[22:30:00] Juski: afrosheen: have you got a lircrc in ~/.mythtv/ ?
[22:30:00] Chutt: beavis, again, there's nothing to save on there.
[22:30:00] afrosheen: yeah
[22:30:00] Chutt: so those screens act like everything else in myth.
[22:30:00] beavis: but are the users sure it's saved?
[22:31:00] Chutt: sure
[22:31:00] Chutt: that's pretty standard behavior.
[22:31:00] Juski: and do the keypress names in that match the ones irw outputs, afrosheen?
[22:31:00] Chutt: not terribly many wizard/configuration screens require you to confirm changes twice.
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[22:31:00] Chutt: there's no 'ok' button at the top level of mythtv-setup, either.
[22:32:00] afrosheen: Juski: yep
[22:33:00] Juski: afrosheen: is LIRC support compiled into mythtv in your install?
[22:33:00] beavis: Chutt: has mdz talked to you about hosting the debs on mythtv.org?
[22:33:00] Chutt: nope.
[22:34:00] afrosheen: Juski: I believe so, it's knoppmyth
[22:34:00] beavis: Chutt: as he's mostly working for ubuntu now, he doesn't want to be a bottleneck for debian users
[22:34:00] Chutt: debian users can just go compile their own
[22:34:00] xris: hahaha
[22:34:00] beavis: Chutt: so he wanted to ask you if you're ok with his idea
[22:34:00] Chutt: i don't mind if they're hosted there
[22:35:00] xris: you say that about ubuntu users, too. or fedora... pretty much everyone except gentoo
[22:35:00] Chutt: but whoever would be building them should be hosted, too
[22:35:00] Chutt: err, 'hosting them'
[22:35:00] beavis: Chutt: I just wanted to upload current debs to his location
[22:36:00] Chutt: i try not to distribute binaries, as a general rule.
[22:36:00] Juski: (what's so hard about compiling anyway?)
[22:36:00] Chutt: if i _have_ to, i can, but...
[22:37:00] ** xris wonders why the debian packages wouldn't be hosted in the debian repository. **
[22:37:00] Chutt: they depend on packages that aren't in debian
[22:37:00] beavis: Chutt: he just doesn't want to host them anymore and I don't have enough bandwidth
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[22:37:00] xris: Chutt: even in multiverse?
[22:37:00] beavis: they're illegal ;)
[22:38:00] Chutt: xris, that's ubuntu
[22:38:00] Chutt: not debian
[22:38:00] beavis: mp3 stuff etc
[22:38:00] xris: thought debian had its own multiverse
[22:38:00] Chutt: nope
[22:38:00] xris: ahh
[22:38:00] beavis: there's everything in one giant repository
[22:38:00] Chutt: beavis, if it were for a distro i used, i'd probably be more willing..
[22:38:00] beavis: :)
[22:38:00] ** xris is an ubuntu user now... well, at work **
[22:38:00] Chutt: but finding someone to host them wouldn't be difficult, i don't think.
[22:39:00] Chutt: i'd just rather not distribute binaries if i don't have to
[22:39:00] beavis: xris: you're not a KDE user anymore?
[22:40:00] xris: beavis: huh? I used to be gnome + fedora. now I use kde + ubuntu at work
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[22:49:00] kormoc: beavis, ubuntu is default gnome, but works perfectly fine with kde or xfce or what not
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[23:07:00] MrSpiffy: hello!
[23:07:00] MrSpiffy: my pvr-250 arrived today.
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[23:08:00] MrSpiffy: I would not mind leaving my 401 card in there as a backup – can I set mythtv to use the pvr250 first?
[23:08:00] MrSpiffy: or am I way off base here
[23:09:00] KillerBunny: You can allways just disable the 401 card in the kernel or something like that.
[23:09:00] MrSpiffy: KillerBunny, module loads when mythbackend starts
[23:10:00] Bricktop: What can cause the video to ficker when switched to full screen?
[23:11:00] KillerBunny: Bad setting of player, bad drivers?
[23:11:00] Bricktop: Which driver is recommended? xv, etc
[23:11:00] MrSpiffy: Bricktop, if your video can do it, use xv
[23:12:00] Bricktop: I found out then when i use opengl, the speed is very slow, but no flickering
[23:13:00] KillerBunny: I know geforce2 has some funkyness with the tvout.
[23:13:00] Bricktop: xv is smoth and good, but flickers
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[23:13:00] KillerBunny: which player?
[23:13:00] Bricktop: I am using xine
[23:13:00] KillerBunny: You have 5–10 options right?
[23:13:00] Bricktop: With via onboard graphic
[23:13:00] KillerBunny: try them out one by one.
[23:14:00] KillerBunny: Thats what i did with my gf2.
[23:14:00] KillerBunny: And apply a hack to disable a green line =/
[23:14:00] KillerBunny: (sorry for the engrish)
[23:15:00] Bricktop: i am using xfce...can it cause problems?
[23:15:00] KillerBunny: Shouldnt.
[23:16:00] Juski: there was someone a while ago saying they were looking into doing a project mayhem theme for mythtv.. did anything come of it?
[23:17:00] Bricktop: the wierd thing is that it only happans when i switch to full screen :(
[23:19:00] kormoc: Bricktop, I use xfce and no issues
[23:19:00] Bricktop: I just asked... :D
[23:19:00] kormoc: Bricktop, what videocard and driver are you using?
[23:19:00] Bricktop: But what can cause that? where to look?
[23:19:00] Bricktop: Unichrome VIA
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[23:20:00] Juski: Bricktop: I imagine you should be using xvmc built for unichrome ;)
[23:21:00] Bricktop: BTW: I onlt have this when i watch TV
[23:21:00] Bricktop: MPEG
[23:22:00] kormoc: can you use XvMC?
[23:22:00] Juski: Bricktop: can you describe the flicker?
[23:23:00] Bricktop: Black frames pops and go
[23:23:00] Juski: ?
[23:24:00] Juski: ahhh.. like the screen goes blank momentarily.. is that what you mean?
[23:24:00] Bricktop: VIDEO->VIDEO-> black frame-> video -> video...
[23:24:00] Bricktop: they come and go
[23:25:00] Juski: weird
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[23:28:00] Bricktop: I will install xvmc and then if the problem will remain i will bother some irc channels :D
[23:30:00] Juski: Bricktop: you'd really need to grab a unichrome build of it
[23:31:00] Bricktop: :D
[23:31:00] rsdvd: Hiya Juski : do you know of any reason why the fields in setup can;t be changed in minimyth?
[23:31:00] Juski: which fields?
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[23:34:00] rsdvd: I was trying to change the location used for MythDVD 'Directory that holds video'......but I cannot tab into any of the fields
[23:35:00] erich141: does anyone know what could be wrong when external channel switching script does not pass some channel numbers? I.e. called without any arguments?
[23:35:00] erich141: Incidentally these channels which do not work have no data in zap2it listings
[23:36:00] Juski: sounds very odd, rsdvd.
[23:36:00] Juski: I'll just wake my frontend & see if I can use TAB to move between fields
[23:36:00] rsdvd: LOL...sounds like me......everything I touch seems to go weird
[23:37:00] Juski: still not had a chance to test those IR thingies yet.. frontend has been used a lot lately
[23:38:00] rsdvd: ok......do you want to send them anyway an I will test them?
[23:38:00] Juski: could do I spose.
[23:39:00] Juski: rsdvd: TAB works for me here.. you tried the arrow keys?
[23:39:00] Juski: your keymap might be weird. I know when I log into one of my boxes remotely the # key doesn't work lol
[23:40:00] rsdvd: I can click 'Next' but I cannot click into any fields......tab don't seem to do anything :-(
[23:41:00] Bricktop: where do I download the unichrome-xine-plugin?
[23:43:00] Juski: rsdvd.. what have you set your keyboard preference in xorg.conf to?
[23:44:00] rsdvd: I have not changed anyting ...so whatever comes in minimyth.conf
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[23:45:00] Tada21: can mytv run on ati 9800 pro all wonder ?
[23:45:00] Tada21: coz mce sucks
[23:46:00] Juski: Tada21: if you're very lucky, you might be able to get the ATI card working in non-hardware encoding mode in Linux
[23:46:00] Tada21: so ati has no mpeg2 encode ?
[23:47:00] Tada21: think ill create a new partition and try this crap
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[23:47:00] Tada21: what flavor is best ?
[23:48:00] Juski: Tada21: depends on your level of experience & tolerance for pain ;)
[23:48:00] Tada21: both are great
[23:48:00] Tada21: i run windowz remember ?
[23:48:00] Tada21: ;)
[23:48:00] Tada21: thats for the pain part
[23:48:00] Juski: ahh you like pain... try slackware then
[23:48:00] Tada21: no the best is what lol
[23:48:00] Tada21: RH ?
[23:49:00] GreyFoxx: Slackware is simple to setup as long as you don't expect it to do it for you
[23:49:00] Juski: redhat = FC these days.. I'm not in the business of recommending distros though. Horses for courses as far as I'm concerned
[23:49:00] Tada21: yeah
[23:49:00] GreyFoxx: If you are new to linux and myth maybe knoppmyth might be for you (but I've never used it )
[23:50:00] Tada21: nah i know unix on the back of my end
[23:50:00] Juski: I started out with Gentoo. very easy but time consuming. Currently warming to ubuntu
[23:50:00] Tada21: BUT was wondering if coded on particular flavor it would help o use the same
[23:50:00] Tada21: gentto akes 45 days to install
[23:50:00] GreyFoxx: no, myth doesn't care about the distro
[23:51:00] GreyFoxx: as long as the basics are there you should be fine. X, QT, MySQL, and acouple others
[23:51:00] Juski: it *does* care for the user who reads all the docs a couple of times before even installing anything though ;)
[23:51:00] Tada21: lol
[23:51:00] Tada21: i reading
[23:51:00] GreyFoxx: Again, if you know what you are doing it's simple
[23:52:00] Juski: it's getting to know what you're doing which can be the tricky part lol
[23:52:00] ** Juski is getting there slowly **
[23:52:00] Tada21: daren
[23:52:00] Tada21: no dvd yet
[23:52:00] Tada21: http://fedora.mirrored.ca/fedora/4/i386/iso/
[23:52:00] simon_c: I'm running mythfrontend on KDE on a laptop. (suse93) Whenever I close the screen, the screen locks, and I have to enter the password to unlock it. I've tried disabling the powersave options that lock the screen when the lid is closed, and disabled all sreen savers, but it's still happening. Anyone any ideas ?
[23:52:00] GreyFoxx: I don't know if that particular capture card is properly supported under Linux however. You might want to check thayt first
[23:53:00] GreyFoxx: simon_c: Don't close the screen ?
[23:53:00] GreyFoxx: ;)
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[23:53:00] ** GreyFoxx goes for a nap **
[23:54:00] simon_c: GreyFoxx: That's not "neat" enough for the other half :-(
[23:54:00] simon_c: perfectly good work ardound if you ask me though.
[23:55:00] Criggie: are PVR cards in short supply or somehting? I had to wait a month for my first one, and now the second (a cheaper MCE version) will be another week
[23:55:00] rsdvd: Juski : do you want me to send you taht money ?
[23:55:00] MrSpiffy: well that blows
[23:55:00] ** Criggie applies the fixing hammer to lazy suppliers **
[23:55:00] MrSpiffy: got ivtv loaded and nada
[23:57:00] Criggie: simon_c: you need to look at power saving... disable the screen lid switch
[23:57:00] Juski: rsdvd.. not quite yet.. I'll see if I can test the buggers tomorrow
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[23:57:00] Juski: sorry if I seem like I'm messing about but I'm a busy guy ;)
[23:57:00] Criggie: simon_c: or look for whatever app is asking for a password and uninstall it
[23:57:00] simon_c: Criggie: I did that in yast already. And it seems to be being ignored. :-(
[23:58:00] simon_c: Criggie: Part of kde3base
[23:58:00] Criggie: simon_c: maybe xscreensaver
[23:58:00] simon_c: could just remove the file I guess.
[23:58:00] rsdvd: ok! just thinking it might be the keyboard that is stopping me mioving round these fields......I tought I might be better with a remote
[23:58:00] simon_c: Criggie: That one's already gone.
[23:59:00] Juski: rsdvd: can you use vnc to log into minimyth & see if the keyboard works there?
[23:59:00] rsdvd: tried that.....jsut the same
[23:59:00] Tada21: wow
[23:59:00] Tada21: d/l at 700KB
[23:59:00] Tada21: good

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