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| [00:03:00] | malaTG: | No, it's time to go to bed in this part of the world |
| [00:03:00] | pookSter: | night |
| [00:03:00] | malaTG: | gnit |
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| [00:10:00] | trans_err: | I'm having trouble setting up lirc under ubuntu for my mythtv set up--- I compiled the drivers, installed them, etc... dmesg reports finding my remote, but the dev file doesn't seem to work at all |
| [00:13:00] | Atamido: | I've had over 10,000 visitors today on my new site. o_O http://orangeman.commo.de/ |
| [00:14:00] | Hoxzer: | but what we need |
| [00:14:00] | Hoxzer: | we need to get my channels work ^^ |
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| [00:15:00] | laga: | Atamido: are you really going to do this? |
| [00:15:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: stop crying and do something. |
| [00:15:00] | Atamido: | laga: I'm on day 8. :P |
| [00:15:00] | Hoxzer: | laga: I already did, I messed up my database ;P |
| [00:16:00] | laga: | Atamido: does it work? |
| [00:16:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: well done ;) |
| [00:17:00] | Atamido: | laga: I don't think I'm any more orange right now, but I haven't done any serious analysis. |
| [00:17:00] | Hoxzer: | well I think it is only with channels |
| [00:18:00] | laga: | Atamido: it is really amazing what some people do to themselves for science. |
| [00:19:00] | laga: | oh, you say your site is getting hammered? time to submit it to this large blog.. ;) |
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| [00:23:00] | FunkyELF: | anyone here know how to find out how much is left in a volume group? |
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| [00:24:00] | Agrajag-: | FunkyELF: vgdisplay? |
| [00:25:00] | Agrajag-: | or just df |
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| [00:26:00] | FunkyELF: | is there a command to extend a logical volume to take up the rest of a volume group...or do I have to just type in what I see as free when i run vgdisplay? |
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| [00:27:00] | NightMonkey: | FunkyELF: man lvresize |
| [00:27:00] | Atamido: | laga: The hammering is basically over now. A few system optimizations are done, and I should now be able to handily withstand anything similar in the near future. |
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| [00:31:00] | laga: | Atamido: great! |
| [00:32:00] | laga: | Atamido: BTW, the light-headed feeling you're describing...i believe i know that, i usually get it when i haven't eaten for a longer period of time and have to think a lot |
| [00:33:00] | Atamido: | Thanks, I'll try not to think to much. |
| [00:33:00] | laga: | yes, it is not always good for you, see? ;) |
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| [00:36:00] | pookSter: | yes, and reading poisons the mind |
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| [00:41:00] | FunkyELF: | so I have used lvextend before, then I run "mount -o remount,resize /store"...is there anything I can do to extend while Myth is recording?? |
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| [01:00:00] | FunkyELF: | if I transcode without cutting commercials and then want to cut commercials later will it be less quality than if I had cut commercials and transcoded at the same time? |
| [01:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | every conversion lowers quality |
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| [01:04:00] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, so his question is, doing both conversions at once better or not then doing them seperately? |
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| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | kormoc: Well It's not two conversions if it's done at one time :) |
| [01:24:00] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, actually, doesn't myth use two different programs to do that? |
| [01:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [01:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythcommflag just flags commericals. It doesn't remove them |
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| [01:26:00] | kormoc: | righto, but I was under the impression mythtranscode sent it to transcode or ffmpeg to convert after sending it though something like mpegcut? |
| [01:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | no, mythtranscode does everything on it;s own |
| [01:27:00] | kormoc: | ahh, cool |
| [01:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you are using nuvexport then that doesn't apply |
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| [01:42:00] | FunkyELF: | I was hoping that if you cut commercials after it was already encoded it would just drop the commercials and leave the data in tact thus not losing compression |
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| [01:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [01:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | lossless cutting is pretty hard to come by :)_ |
| [01:48:00] | ** GreyFoxx generates the rom database for the 10th time tonight ** | |
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| [01:54:00] | FunkyELF: | I know nothing about encoding, but you would think you could just cut to the nearest key-frame and concatonate the files |
| [02:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | few apps do it correctly |
| [02:01:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: avidemux2? |
| [02:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | NightMonkey: One of the few that do for the most part correctly |
| [02:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | some complain of audio issues but It's always worked perfectly for me |
| [02:02:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: Really quick for cutting, too, in my experience. |
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| [02:03:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: The French->English translation issues are what get my goat... |
| [02:03:00] | _Nero_: | I'll try once more.. ;) Would anyone like to give the preview version of my theme a whirl? There are a few graphics that still need to be made, but it is very usable as is.. looking for a little feedback. |
| [02:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/romdb.txt Woo, an ever growing rom list |
| [02:03:00] | _Nero_: | http://mdobossy.student.princeton.edu/~nero/oldfilmss.jpg <--- screenshot.. |
| [02:04:00] | _Nero_: | http://mdobossy.student.princeton.edu/~nero/m . . . eview.tar.gz <--- theme (there is a font in the tgz called "SF Movie Poster" that needs to be installed.. |
| [02:04:00] | whosit: | anyone here install mythtv on suse 10? |
| [02:08:00] | NightMonkey: | _Nero_: I can't test right now, but the screenshot looks good. Only thing I'd ask for is for the indicator icons to be more "contextually integrated" with the idea of old film stock. Rather than a flat icon, something more "lifelike", rather than Kraftwerk-y. But, again, looks good! |
| [02:08:00] | NightMonkey: | :) |
| [02:11:00] | whosit: | Well, guess Ill find out how much of a b it is then, off to install :) |
| [02:11:00] | _Nero_: | Thanks NightMonke.. that is a very good idea about the watermarks.. The VCR tape isnt the best example, but I was going for a 30s/40s line drawing look.. |
| [02:11:00] | _Nero_: | I like your more "lifelike" look.. probably will be more in 2.0 though as I have spent quite a lot of time just making these.. ;) |
| [02:15:00] | NightMonkey: | _Nero_: Well, since you're at Princeton, I'm sure you can get some fellow students together and cook something up. :) I think it would be neat-o if there were actually people holding the items close to the lens, with fingers visible and all. Even someone holding an old TV for "Watch TV". Would seem to work real well with the aesthetic. |
| [02:16:00] | _Nero_: | NightMonke- hehe.. that does sound cool.. as for the princeton part- I am just a grad student (AKA- Indentured servant) so I have no creativity rights.. ;) |
| [02:17:00] | NightMonkey: | _Nero_: I'm pretty tired of the themes that are either "futuristic"/New Agey or watered-down "techno-industrial". Yours looks my ticket out! :) |
| [02:18:00] | NightMonkey: | _Nero_: Bah. Just give 'em a six-pack. You'll have a theme by morning. ;) |
| [02:18:00] | _Nero_: | hahaha. 6-Packs I can handle.. |
| [02:19:00] | NightMonkey: | sorry, "looks like my ticket out!", doh |
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| [02:20:00] | _Nero_: | glad you like it NightMonkey |
| [02:20:00] | NightMonkey: | Some kind Suse 10 user needs to make a MythTV guide. They keep coming in and find no love. |
| [02:20:00] | _Nero_: | my other concern about the "real life" look is that it may look inadaquate that it isnt actually video/moving.. |
| [02:21:00] | NightMonkey: | _Nero_: Yeah, I could see your point. It would be cool if there was a "film projector" effect going – like a DVD menu. |
| [02:21:00] | NightMonkey: | _Nero_: Don't think that's on the feature list, tho. But, I could be wrong. |
| [02:21:00] | _Nero_: | yeah- I wonder if something like that will be possible with the new UI stuff.. |
| [02:22:00] | NightMonkey: | _Nero_: I take that back – I'm not a dev – they might have some secret sauce cooking. |
| [02:23:00] | _Nero_: | I wonder if I should stop working on a "ken burns effect" for mythgallery, and play with the OpenGL UI stuff.. |
| [02:24:00] | NightMonkey: | _Nero_: Well, that might take more time. Might I suggest making a "static" version of this theme, then wow them with your coding + dynamic version? |
| [02:28:00] | NightMonkey: | _Nero_: I don't think that any other PVR has this kind of dynamic menu system – but I haven't used a Tivo/Replay in a long time. |
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| [02:32:00] | _Nero_: | Probably not.. and the actual graphics work would probably take me quite a while to do! lol |
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| [02:49:00] | jd86: | my drive is almost full and i need to figure out how to do the transcoding, to save alot of space.. put it into like divx or something, and i cant figure out how to do it automatically |
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| [02:59:00] | dft_: | any knoppmyth users in here who've successfully got their pvr 250 remotes working after running the reconfig script? |
| [02:59:00] | dft_: | apparently /dev/lirc is inaccessible |
| [03:02:00] | dft_: | haven't used a Tivo/Replay in a long time. |
| [03:02:00] | dft_: | *** Signoff: stoffel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| [03:02:00] | dft_: | <_Nero_> Probably not.. and the actual graphics work would probably take me |
| [03:02:00] | dft_: | +quite a while to do! lol |
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| [03:02:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: Someone else might give you a better answer, but have you considered burning DVDs and deleting the shows? |
| [03:02:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: Then, set up automatic transcoding profiles for newly recorded shows? |
| [03:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what dft_? |
| [03:06:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: Otherwise, you'll need to order up a transcode job for each show via the Myth menus. |
| [03:06:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: And, if you are *really* low on space, you might not have enough room to do that. |
| [03:07:00] | NightMonkey: | dft_: Your question/comment was lost in your pasteflood. |
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| [03:10:00] | ** NightMonkey grooves to Somafm ** | |
| [03:11:00] | dft_: | SlicerDicer: I've done a manual install of knoppmyth due to SATA drive and the system is running almost perfect...no remote yet |
| [03:11:00] | dft_: | I've run the lirc-reconfig.sh, to add support and now I get the following with testing the remote with irw |
| [03:12:00] | dft_: | "accepted new client on /dev/lircd...' |
| [03:12:00] | dft_: | could not open /dev/lirc |
| [03:12:00] | dft_: | default_init() no such devices |
| [03:12:00] | dft_: | caught signal |
| [03:12:00] | dft_: | then lircd dies |
| [03:15:00] | red_fox: | Using nuvexport... which format results in the smallest files? |
| [03:20:00] | jd86: | NightMonkey: i have enough space for that, but the thing doesn't save any space, its the same size after it finished transcoding |
| [03:20:00] | jd86: | so i dont really know what to do |
| [03:20:00] | Dagmar: | The one with the crappiest visual quality |
| [03:23:00] | jd86: | 34 programs, using 94 GB (35 hrs 34 mins) out of 112 GB |
| [03:23:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: Hmm... And you are not transcoding anything already? The files are still mpeg-2? |
| [03:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | Woop, got a basic web search engine for the romdatabase that I will be looking to incorporate into mythgame for anyone who wants to try it out |
| [03:24:00] | jd86: | i dont know, how do you tell what they are? |
| [03:24:00] | jd86: | i don't quite understand the whole transcode process |
| [03:24:00] | jd86: | i read alot of docs |
| [03:24:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: If you go to your recordings directory, and do a "file <filename>" what do you get? |
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| [03:24:00] | jd86: | played with alot of settings |
| [03:24:00] | \Grooby\: | hey guys..is there any tricks for using QAM with cox cable? |
| [03:24:00] | \Grooby\: | on hd3k card? |
| [03:25:00] | jd86: | let me find one that it thinks it transcoded |
| [03:25:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: And find one that you think has not been transcoded, for kicks. |
| [03:25:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: You can just do "file *" in that dir, to be lazy. |
| [03:25:00] | jd86: | jim@jim1 /store/hd5/TvRecord $ file 2010_20051022233000_20051023010100.nuv |
| [03:25:00] | jd86: | 2010_20051022233000_20051023010100.nuv: data |
| [03:26:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: Bah. What does "file -v" say? |
| [03:26:00] | jd86: | file-4.15 |
| [03:26:00] | jd86: | magic file from /usr/share/misc/file/magic |
| [03:26:00] | jd86: | i cant mplay that file.. |
| [03:27:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: Is that a transcoded file, or a non-transcoded file? |
| [03:27:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: Try a non-transcoded file, plz. |
| [03:27:00] | jd86: | i thought it was transcoded |
| [03:27:00] | jd86: | alright |
| [03:27:00] | jd86: | it plays |
| [03:27:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: And what are you transcoding to? |
| [03:27:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: Try file <filename> on a non-transcoded file. |
| [03:28:00] | jd86: | 1041_20051015200000_20051015210000.nuv: MPEG sequence, v2, program multiplex |
| [03:29:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: OK, thanks. That's good. Just wanted to be sure. So, what format are you transcoding to? |
| [03:29:00] | jd86: | good question |
| [03:29:00] | jd86: | mpeg4 problably |
| [03:29:00] | jd86: | i dont know |
| [03:29:00] | jd86: | hah |
| [03:29:00] | jd86: | but like mythfrontend can play it |
| [03:29:00] | jd86: | and i played with the settings |
| [03:29:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: If you play with mplayer, it will tell you the format in it's output. |
| [03:29:00] | jd86: | and now this one is much much smaller... |
| [03:29:00] | jd86: | so |
| [03:30:00] | jd86: | lets see if i can play it |
| [03:30:00] | jd86: | and if i can then its working i guess |
| [03:30:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: Ah, ok. So, then you'll need to manually go through an order up a transcode job for each file that isn't transcoded. Yeah, it will take a while... :) |
| [03:30:00] | NightMonkey: | brb phone |
| [03:31:00] | jd86: | NightMonkey: yea... but i wish that show recorded on my better tuner.. what happened to that one |
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| [03:32:00] | jd86: | How can i have it cut commercials out automatically? |
| [03:34:00] | jd86: | ugh |
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| [03:56:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: I don't think that's possible (commerical cutting) within myth 0.18.1. |
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| [03:56:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: You have to export it with nuvexport for that. |
| [03:57:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: Of course, you can buy another hard drive :). |
| [03:57:00] | Dagmar: | Of course, if you can figure out the frontend stuff you can try telling it to do that automatically the moment the recording is complelte |
| [03:57:00] | Dagmar: | ...and even when it's complete. |
| [03:57:00] | NightMonkey: | Dagmar: Cut commercials? |
| [03:58:00] | Dagmar: | Yes. |
| [03:58:00] | Dagmar: | There's all that stuff about user jobs and so forth |
| [03:59:00] | Dagmar: | ...automatic transcoding, etc. Some of that has GOT to be useable to automatically remove commercials |
| [03:59:00] | NightMonkey: | Dagmar: Ah, my bad. I just thought you would mark the file for cutting by another app. |
| [03:59:00] | Dagmar: | Well, I know my boss is letting it mark the files for him now. |
| [03:59:00] | Dagmar: | If you trust it's marking, then you can readily make it spool recordings to an external process. |
| [04:01:00] | NightMonkey: | Dagmar: You are right. My bad. Scripted nuvexport can do that. |
| [04:01:00] | NightMonkey: | jd86: So, consider me wrong – you can do it with nuvexport. |
| [04:01:00] | ** NightMonkey hides ** | |
| [04:04:00] | Dagmar: | ...provided your nuvexport isn't exploding due to ffmpeg/transcode fights |
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| [04:05:00] | dft_: | fsck, lirc is driving me mad |
| [04:05:00] | Dagmar: | It'll do that |
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| [04:05:00] | dft_: | apparently /dev/lirc "no such device" when I fire up irw |
| [04:06:00] | dft_: | I've tried symlinking lirc0 to it...nadda |
| [04:06:00] | Dagmar: | For it to say that, the kernel module must not be loading |
| [04:07:00] | sw_bluntman: | I know I've missed something stupid, but I'm having trouble finding the docs on this. I have a via8235 chipset, using the spid/f output. Using kmix, on the input tab, capture is unmuted and set as the source (red and green lights on). Line is record source and muted (red light on, green light off) and I am still getting real time audio and mythtv audio. Can someone give me a hint as to... |
| [04:07:00] | sw_bluntman: | ...what I might have missed? |
| [04:07:00] | dft_: | how can test for this? |
| [04:07:00] | Dagmar: | lsmod |
| [04:09:00] | dft_: | hmm, lsmod shows lirc_dev 2nd in the list and i2c_core later on |
| [04:10:00] | dft_: | is the output of lsmod representative of which module load when? |
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| [04:18:00] | pookSter: | night everyone |
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| [04:21:00] | CyberKnet: | sup GreyFoxx |
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| [04:22:00] | dft_: | okay so lirc_i2c is showing up in dmesg...problem #1 I think |
| [04:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | CyberKnet: Howdy |
| [04:22:00] | dft_: | erp..is/isn't |
| [04:23:00] | dft_: | is there anyway to manually start a kernel module or is that wishfull thinking? |
| [04:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, you don't really "start" a kernel module. You load it |
| [04:23:00] | sw_bluntman: | Additional information about my above question (in case someone had a clue about it but was afraid to answer) with the settings as above, I get live audio from the TV even outside of mythtv. |
| [04:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | modprobe modulename |
| [04:24:00] | sw_bluntman: | I can't get the live audio to go away and leave only the recorded. |
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| [04:26:00] | dft_: | Grey: thnx |
| [04:27:00] | _Nero_: | what is xvmc? |
| [04:27:00] | CyberKnet: | latest version of ati_remote.c is on phaze.org? |
| [04:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | XVideo Motion Compensation. Basically a library to use the mpeg2 decoding abilities of a video card to lower the cpu needed to playback mpeg2 content |
| [04:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | CyberKnet: YUp |
| [04:28:00] | CyberKnet: | cool. |
| [04:28:00] | _Nero_: | ahhh.. ok.. so for a normal nvidia card, its not necessary.. |
| [04:28:00] | _Nero_: | (its for something like a Haup 350) |
| [04:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nero : How do you define "normal? |
| [04:28:00] | _Nero_: | 440mx |
| [04:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | _Nero_: No, it's for regular video cards |
| [04:28:00] | _Nero_: | oh really? |
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| [04:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Specifically Nvidia |
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| [04:29:00] | Dagmar: | Avoid using XvMC on nVidia right now. It screws up pretty dramatically. |
| [04:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | The ATI Drivers don't currently support XVMC |
| [04:29:00] | Dagmar: | Unless you're really hurting for CPU power, be prepared for it to not work right |
| [04:29:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: screws up in what sense? |
| [04:29:00] | _Nero_: | interesting.. so it just takes load off the cpu? Think I'll go with the "aint broke, dont fix it" route.. ;) |
| [04:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Dagmar: Works fine for me, but I use it on 1 frontend just so that I can test it |
| [04:29:00] | Dagmar: | mchou: OSD comes out in black and white only, about half the time the frame rate is very very wrong and so forth |
| [04:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | _Nero_: Yes uses the video card to help decode the mpeg2 recordings |
| [04:30:00] | _Nero_: | if I could only figure out why xine menus are sooo slow.. |
| [04:30:00] | mchou: | OSD is a known issue. |
| [04:30:00] | mchou: | No problems with frame rate for me...... |
| [04:31:00] | mchou: | and the OSD is not really a serious issue anyways |
| [04:31:00] | sw_bluntman: | OK, can someone suggest a more suitable forum for my question? |
| [04:31:00] | sw_bluntman: | There doesn't seem to be a #alsa |
| [04:33:00] | mchou: | Now for the REAL October surprise...... |
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| [04:34:00] | Dagmar: | For me the OSD is an issue since I'm trying my best to make it not suck to begin with. Monochrome doesn't help. :/ |
| [04:34:00] | _Nero_: | the OSD sucks? |
| [04:36:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: make it not suck? selaborate pls? |
| [04:36:00] | mchou: | Elaborate* |
| [04:37:00] | Dagmar: | Suckage 1: Arial is a bloody awful font, and FreeSans/FreeMono (Luxi) are worse. |
| [04:37:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [04:37:00] | Dagmar: | Suckage 2: The default OSD themes are just plain ugly. |
| [04:37:00] | mchou: | so? so wanna a tivo instead? :) |
| [04:38:00] | Dagmar: | Suckage 3: The font is so large that you only get a single line of description text on the screen, which generally amounts to about a quarter of a sentence |
| [04:38:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [04:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | All of that is under your control |
| [04:38:00] | mchou: | exactly! |
| [04:38:00] | Dagmar: | ...which means you usally get the show name and part of the episode name and *maybe* "This time" at the end which is terribly useless |
| [04:38:00] | Dagmar: | GreyFoxx: Font size isn't but I'm hacking on that |
| [04:39:00] | Dagmar: | ...at least not through the program. I've been reskinning most of the thing in between banging on packaging refinements. |
| [04:39:00] | mchou: | sigh..... |
| [04:39:00] | sw_bluntman: | Can someone just real quick confirm I am being seen? |
| [04:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Dagmar: Yeah, I have the ability to alter the OSD font size. At least a menu option for it |
| [04:40:00] | _Nero_: | I dont see you.. |
| [04:40:00] | Dagmar: | mchou: But seriously, those Luxi fonts are horrible. Bitstream Vera should probably replace them as the defaults. On more than one installation I've seen the baseline for the text be irregular |
| [04:40:00] | sw_bluntman: | :-P TY |
| [04:40:00] | _Nero_: | ;) |
| [04:41:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: so? change it |
| [04:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | TV Settings -> Playback -> 9th screen "On-Screen Display" |
| [04:41:00] | Dagmar: | mchou: Duh. I can assure you that what goes out for Dropline users won't have these issues. |
| [04:41:00] | mchou: | Dropline? What's that? |
| [04:41:00] | |rt|: | has anyone tried mysql 4.1 with myth? |
| [04:41:00] | Dagmar: | mchou: A polished GNome desktop for Slackware users. |
| [04:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm suprised I haven't seen mysql 5 questions in the last day or so |
| [04:42:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [04:42:00] | |rt|: | hehe what about 6 |
| [04:42:00] | Dagmar: | You asked what was broken, I told you. |
| [04:42:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: who uses gnome for myth? It's a complete overkill |
| [04:42:00] | Dagmar: | Acting like it shouldn't be fixed upstream isn't going to get much accomplished. |
| [04:42:00] | Dagmar: | mchou: Considering that you can run the frontend on a workstation, it's got utilty. |
| [04:43:00] | Dagmar: | Plus it's terribly straightforward to install Slackware's CD1. |
| [04:43:00] | _Nero_: | GreyFoxx- I'll ask the inevitable.. does MySQL5 break myth? |
| [04:43:00] | mchou: | It should be fixed, but those complaints are directly under the user's control |
| [04:43:00] | Dagmar: | I'm going to abduct runlevel 5 for it to run in standalone mode |
| [04:43:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: ^^^ |
| [04:43:00] | Dagmar: | mchou: Again, you asked what was broken |
| [04:44:00] | Dagmar: | I told you |
| [04:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | _Nero_: No idea, but I'm sure you would need to reinstall/compile QT at least |
| [04:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've not bothered to try out 5 yet |
| [04:44:00] | _Nero_: | true.. I've not bothered either, but was just curious.. |
| [04:44:00] | |rt|: | GreyFoxx: so is 4.1 safe? |
| [04:44:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: I didn't ask what was broken. I asked you to elaborate on "make it not suck" |
| [04:44:00] | _Nero_: | Dagmar- that is kind of like saying that Fedora installing gnome by default means it is broken.. these are things that are settings that the user can change.. |
| [04:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | rtsai: I haven't seen anyone complain about it, except those who needed to recompile QT. I use 4.0.x |
| [04:45:00] | mchou: | _Nero_: exactly :) |
| [04:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | It works, so I don't have need to touch it :) |
| [04:45:00] | Dagmar: | mchou: You need to read more carefully. I didn't ask for someone else to make it not suck. I said *i* was making it suck less. |
| [04:45:00] | Dagmar: | _Nero_: If it's misconfigured by default, then it's broken. |
| [04:45:00] | |rt|: | GreyFoxx: yeah i'm considering not updating just this moment |
| [04:45:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: BS. I asked you to elaborate on your own statement |
| [04:46:00] | Dagmar: | mchou: And I did. |
| [04:46:00] | |rt|: | GreyFoxx: I got some sort of nvidia issues going on right now....i've seen a couple seg faults on the nvidia module |
| [04:46:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: you're full of shit |
| [04:46:00] | Dagmar: | mchou: Learn to read. |
| [04:46:00] | _Nero_: | how is it misconfigured? I happen to have terrible vision and like the huge fonts.. in your opinion you like the smaller font better, and are free to simply change it in the settings.. (thus why the settings are there) |
| [04:46:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: haha. Perhaps you ought to learn to read the myth docs |
| [04:47:00] | DarkBeer: | |rt| back to your original question, i have mysql 4.1.12 and it's working fine |
| [04:47:00] | Dagmar: | mchou: Been there, done that. Already replicating the architectural information to other binary package testers. |
| [04:47:00] | |rt|: | DarkBeer: good to know |
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| [04:47:00] | mchou: | Where is Chutt when you need him? :) |
| [04:47:00] | _Nero_: | wtf??? |
| [04:47:00] | Dagmar: | _Nero_: Justify why it's useful to have the first two words of a program description on the screen. In *theory* it might be proper, but in practice it is utterly useless. |
| [04:47:00] | |rt|: | DarkBeer: did you upgrade from a newer version? |
| [04:48:00] | |rt|: | DarkBeer: upgrade doesn't look like it's 100% automatic |
| [04:48:00] | mchou: | I think Dagmar is appealing to the ban god :) |
| [04:48:00] | DarkBeer: | no, just did an install on fc4 following jarad's guide, and 4.1.12 is the base install |
| [04:48:00] | |rt|: | ah |
| [04:48:00] | Dagmar: | If your package manager only gave you that much information for a "verbose" description of a package, you'd throw fits about it. |
| [04:48:00] | _Nero_: | Dagmar- I get a lot more than the first two words on mine.. shrug.. its a damn setting, that the user can easily go in and change.. it isn't "broken".. |
| [04:49:00] | |rt|: | DarkBeer: looks like I have to backup my database and import them into the new version...or something along those lines |
| [04:49:00] | mchou: | I agree wit Nero |
| [04:49:00] | mchou: | with* |
| [04:49:00] | Dagmar: | You are both deranged. |
| [04:49:00] | |rt|: | DarkBeer: probably not worth the hassle considering i'm not having any mysql issues |
| [04:49:00] | DarkBeer: | |rt|, that I can't help with. just confirming it works with 4.1.x ;) |
| [04:49:00] | Dagmar: | I might be insane, but generally when something does not work, then I see it as needing to be fixed. |
| [04:49:00] | _Nero_: | thats a good one Dagmar.. now lest start throwing the insults around.. |
| [04:49:00] | Dagmar: | ...but that's jsut me. |
| [04:50:00] | _Nero_: | again- tell me- what doesnt work?? Were you not able to go into the menu, and change the font size to your liking? |
| [04:50:00] | Dagmar: | _Nero_: Then let's not be throwing threats around because I happen to disagree with you. |
| [04:50:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: I think OSD can use some improvement, but those things which you complain about aren't it |
| [04:50:00] | _Nero_: | What threat did I ever throw around?? Jeesh |
| [04:50:00] | Dagmar: | _Nero_: Scroll up. I listed the things wrong with the default OSD already. |
| [04:50:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: because they can readily be changed by the user. |
| [04:50:00] | Dagmar: | _Nero_: It's mchou who was threatening |
| [04:51:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: there is nothing "wrong" |
| [04:51:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: trust me, if Chutt was around he'd banned ya for not reading docs and complaining things are broken when they arent |
| [04:52:00] | Dagmar: | You really do not get it. |
| [04:52:00] | |rt|: | well it could be that the default font settings aren't perfect...but they are configurable |
| [04:52:00] | _Nero_: | Humm.. Mythweather, by default, doesnt list MY zipcode.. I guess that means it is broken too.. shrug.. |
| [04:52:00] | Dagmar: | Somehow I think Chutt would actually be reading what I'm saying instead of getting it confused with whatever dialog is going on inside of your head. |
| [04:53:00] | _Nero_: | Dagmar- hah!! Obviously you dont know Chutt too well! ;) |
| [04:53:00] | mchou: | Dagmar: sure Chutt would read it. |
| [04:53:00] | Dagmar: | _Nero_: Yeah, well the difference between you and me is apparently that I know where to get a complete list of zip codes and could probably convince the binary release to use it. |
| [04:53:00] | mchou: | _Nero_: s/too/so |
| [04:54:00] | _Nero_: | And what was that supposed to mean? |
| [04:54:00] | Dagmar: | Partial coverage of zip codes would be seen as a bug by every user whose zip code wasn't listed. |
| [04:54:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [04:54:00] | _Nero_: | .oO(its like talking to a brick wall) |
| [04:55:00] | Dagmar: | _Nero_: You can't read your own text? |
| [04:55:00] | mchou: | _Nero_: it's clear Dagmar is trolling |
| [04:55:00] | DarkBeer: | quit feeding the trolls then ;) |
| [04:55:00] | Dagmar: | You're the one who seems to dispute that not having your zip code in MythWeather is something that should be considered fine |
| [04:55:00] | _Nero_: | Dagmar- I said "Since MythWeather doesnt DEFAULT to my zipcode, it must be broken" |
| [04:55:00] | mchou: | probably doesnt even have myth installed :) |
| [04:55:00] | _Nero_: | aka- an easy setting to change to my liking |
| [04:55:00] | Dagmar: | "Mythweather, by default, doesnt list MY zipcode" |
| [04:55:00] | Dagmar: | That's what you said. |
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| [04:56:00] | Dagmar: | Learn English if you were trying to say that what you said is the same as "MythWeather doesn't select my ZIP code by default" |
| [04:56:00] | feld: | hey is anyone here |
| [04:56:00] | feld: | i need some help :( |
| [04:56:00] | |rt|: | feld ask away |
| [04:56:00] | feld: | lirc |
| [04:56:00] | |rt|: | lots of helpful people in here |
| [04:56:00] | feld: | whats the deal |
| [04:56:00] | Dagmar: | I'll be putting you on ignore until then. |
| [04:56:00] | feld: | i cant find the stuff in the kernel that the guides say to enable |
| [04:57:00] | feld: | its just _not_ there |
| [04:57:00] | feld: | so i dont have i2c_lirc or lirc_i2c, however it was |
| [04:57:00] | Dagmar: | feld: Which bits? Some parts require other parts of the kernel be enabled first. |
| [04:57:00] | feld: | and the other module |
| [04:57:00] | feld: | well okay one sec |
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| [04:58:00] | CyberKnet: | I really should have figured out how to compile *just* the module I wanted. |
| [04:58:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [04:58:00] | Dagmar: | feld: I'm pretty sure those two are part of lirc, not the kernel. They should be able to be compiled by the lirc package if you have CONFIG_I2C at least on as a module in the kernel configu |
| [04:59:00] | feld: | i already use I2C for sensors on the mobo |
| [04:59:00] | feld: | as modules |
| [04:59:00] | CyberKnet: | I usually have the kernel modules all compiled but this time I just went with the precompiled ones |
| [04:59:00] | Dagmar: | Okay, then it should have been able to build them. Where'd you get your lirc binaries from? |
| [05:00:00] | feld: | i run Gentoo |
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| [05:01:00] | Dagmar: | Hmm... I don't mess with that one so I don't know what they're building for. |
| [05:01:00] | feld: | damnit |
| [05:01:00] | feld: | =( |
| [05:01:00] | feld: | i wanted this to be setup tonight |
| [05:01:00] | Dagmar: | Hey, there's probably a #Gentoo |
| [05:01:00] | feld: | yeah there is but its full of lamers =/ |
| [05:01:00] | Dagmar: | You sure you need the i2c modules for lirc in the first place? |
| [05:01:00] | feld: | used to be a good channel too |
| [05:01:00] | feld: | well i dont know |
| [05:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | thereis a #gentoo-mythtv (or maybe it's #mythtv-gentoo) |
| [05:02:00] | feld: | cool GreyFoxx i'll check that out |
| [05:02:00] | Dagmar: | Okay, well you can explore that possibility without being hampered by the "lamers" |
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| [05:05:00] | feld: | ok i'm back |
| [05:05:00] | Dagmar: | So which remote setup are you using? |
| [05:05:00] | feld: | heres what im also looking for : correct configuration files for the hauppague pvr-250 grey remote |
| [05:06:00] | feld: | anyone use that? |
| [05:07:00] | Dagmar: | feld: Did you look at section 22.2 of the howto? |
| [05:07:00] | feld: | which howto? |
| [05:07:00] | feld: | i've been following gentoo specific howtos |
| [05:07:00] | Dagmar: | The MythTV HOWTO |
| [05:07:00] | Dagmar: | "Hauppauge PVR-250 remote and MythTV's native LIRC support" |
| [05:07:00] | feld: | can u link me to that guide |
| [05:07:00] | Dagmar: | It looks like it reasonably well-details what needs to be happening and when |
| [05:08:00] | FunkyELF: | is there a command to extend a logical volume to take up the rest of a volume group...or do I have to just type in what I see as free when i run vgdisplay? |
| [05:08:00] | Dagmar: | http://www.a1ontheweb.co.uk:8080/mythtv-doc/m . . . pauge_remote |
| [05:09:00] | Dagmar: | feld: For whatever reason there's different/more information on the uk site there than there is on mythtv.org. Go figure. |
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| [05:10:00] | Dagmar: | Pay attention to the mention of changes to i2c causing incompatibilities. Those may apply to you. |
| [05:10:00] | Dagmar: | That business alone was the reason I got out the soldering pencil and modified the AST reciever to act like a dumb serial dongle. I don't need this being that complex. |
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| [05:11:00] | duende: | Help: I have a question about watching mythtv stream in windows using DSmyth, can i ask here? |
| [05:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can certainly ask. But not many seem to use winmyth so you might not get much help :) |
| [05:15:00] | duende: | well, i tried winmyth, but i get an error starting up (already filed a bug). But, i'm trying to get the dsmyth filters working with any video player (wmp, mpc, vlc, etc.) but i get the error "Failed to render the file". I installed DSmyth and rebooted, etc. |
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| [05:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | duende: What kind of capture card ? |
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| [05:19:00] | duende: | GreyFoxx, leadtek winfast tv2000 xp deluxe (using mpeg4 for recordings and livetv) |
| [05:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh ok |
| [05:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cant say I know what might be the problem there. All of my recordings are mpeg2 and don't require those filters if I were to want to watch them on awindows machine |
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| [05:24:00] | duende: | greyfoxx: if i share the recordings directory using samba, and play the files manually, it works fine oddly enough |
| [05:25:00] | duende: | GreyFoxx, it just seems that the myth:// and mythlivetv:// syntax's aren't working as they should |
| [05:26:00] | ** CyberKnet2 scratches his head ** | |
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| [05:29:00] | mandyblock: | I just found out every time I load lirc_i2c my mpeg files are screwy |
| [05:35:00] | mandyblock: | only thing I can find to fix it so it starts recording find again is to reboot to |
| [05:35:00] | feld: | hey is knoppmyth any good? |
| [05:36:00] | feld: | i just need this shit working right now =( |
| [05:36:00] | mandyblock: | I need this working weeks ago |
| [05:39:00] | Dagmar: | feld: It's um, mostly workable. |
| [05:39:00] | Dagmar: | feld: There's a number of places that even 5A22 malfunctions. |
| [05:40:00] | Dagmar: | ...but you should be able to shoehorn it into working if you can spot the places it screws up as they happen during the install. |
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| [05:40:00] | Dagmar: | Just um, don't try to use dpkg to automatically upgrade it once it's all installed. That seemed to just be a fast way to set it all on fire last night |
| [05:41:00] | feld: | LOL! |
| [05:41:00] | feld: | yeah like how does it mess up during install? just wrong config stuff selected? |
| [05:42:00] | Dagmar: | I can't remember specifics beyond some weirdness with the way it was installing the nVidia drivers--most of the issues I hit were really simple to fix |
| [05:43:00] | Dagmar: | It didn't automatically start the backend I *think*. |
| [05:43:00] | Dagmar: | Pretty minor stuff |
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| [05:44:00] | Dagmar: | lircd configuration is probably going to stay gnomic for awhile. I need to reanalyze lircd and see if there's _any_ way I can make that package so that it doesn't have to rebuilt for the user's hardware configuration |
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| [05:47:00] | CyberKnet: | hmmm input/output error when running depmod is not a good sign :| |
| [05:48:00] | CyberKnet: | and I think my rpm database is a bit hosed. gack. |
| [05:49:00] | Dagmar: | Might be a good time to do some hardware fitness tests on your disk. |
| [05:49:00] | CyberKnet: | probably so. |
| [05:49:00] | Dagmar: | You're describing some really scary symptoms. |
| [05:50:00] | CyberKnet: | worst case scenario is reinstall the OS. my video store and mysql database is on a hardware raid 5 array |
| [05:50:00] | CyberKnet: | I'd recover okay. |
| [05:50:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, but you really want to be able to trust the OS drive to not burn up your data again |
| [05:50:00] | mandyblock: | how would lirc_i2c interfear with ivtv? |
| [05:50:00] | Dagmar: | mandyblock: It should't be able to |
| [05:51:00] | Dagmar: | mandyblock: What's making you think it's doing so? |
| [05:51:00] | mandyblock: | when I modprobe lirc_i2c, then record a video, the resulting mpeg file is messed up |
| [05:52:00] | mandyblock: | before the modprobe, videos are recorded fine |
| [05:54:00] | CyberKnet: | hmm... sata drives and smartctl still don't get along |
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| [05:57:00] | derek: | hey all – if i have 3 tuners in my system – one being digital cable with an external box – how do i go about making mythtv to use the other tuners as much as possible leaving the digital cable alone so i can watch liveTV or record shows only showing on the digital channels |
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| [05:59:00] | derek: | ?? |
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| [05:59:00] | CyberKnet: | well he must have wanted that answer pretty bdly |
| [06:11:00] | _Nero_: | mandyblock- look at the wilsonet fedora howto. There is some issue with the order that ivtv and lirc must be loaded (and when in the boot process it must happen), and he does a patch that works with Fedora, which you may need to change in order to get your dist working. |
| [06:11:00] | CyberKnet: | I wonder if I need to fsck my root partiton |
| [06:11:00] | mandyblock: | I'll check it out |
| [06:13:00] | CyberKnet: | $DEITY bless shutdown -F |
| [06:15:00] | CyberKnet: | I think. heh |
| [06:15:00] | CyberKnet: | hopefully not caught in an endless boot loop here |
| [06:16:00] | CyberKnet: | hmmm. that doesn't look good. |
| [06:18:00] | CyberKnet: | that doesn't look good at all. |
| [06:21:00] | CyberKnet: | it can't find sulogin. that'd be a bit of a problem. |
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| [06:24:00] | Beirdo: | DAMMIT |
| [06:24:00] | Beirdo: | I started the day in 93F weather, ended it at 35F |
| [06:25:00] | ** Beirdo farts all over Toronto. Stupid-ass cold city ** | |
| [06:25:00] | Beirdo: | I wanna go back to PR |
| [06:25:00] | mchou: | wow, that's cold |
| [06:25:00] | CyberKnet: | must have been nice to see her again. |
| [06:25:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [06:25:00] | Beirdo: | and nicer yet to put a ring on her finger :) |
| [06:25:00] | CyberKnet: | =)) |
| [06:25:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [06:26:00] | ** Beirdo is now officially engaged ** | |
| [06:26:00] | mchou: | wow |
| [06:26:00] | mchou: | congrats man |
| [06:26:00] | Beirdo: | thank ya |
| [06:27:00] | mchou: | how did you meet? |
| [06:27:00] | mchou: | (at first) |
| [06:28:00] | Beirdo: | on a MUD |
| [06:28:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [06:28:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [06:28:00] | mchou: | what a way to start a relationship |
| [06:28:00] | _Nero_: | Congrats Beirdo!! :) |
| [06:28:00] | Beirdo: | thanks, _Nero_ |
| [06:29:00] | _Nero_: | np.. I just went through all that this past year.. :) Lots of fun times ahead! |
| [06:29:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [06:29:00] | mchou: | I'd like to be the wedding planner. |
| [06:29:00] | mchou: | j/k :) |
| [06:29:00] | _Nero_: | now.. Why is mythweb stopping at ~channel 380ish?? |
| [06:29:00] | _Nero_: | Beirdo- she lives down in Puerto Rico?? |
| [06:29:00] | Beirdo: | Oh, there's plenty of planning fun |
| [06:30:00] | Beirdo: | _Nero_: yup |
| [06:30:00] | Beirdo: | she sure does |
| [06:30:00] | _Nero_: | niiice.. Beautiful down there.. |
| [06:30:00] | Beirdo: | 93F at 70% humidity just as I was leaving |
| [06:30:00] | Beirdo: | damn this northern climate! |
| [06:31:00] | _Nero_: | We got married down that way (St. John, in the USVI) this summer.. was amazing!! |
| [06:31:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: you rescuing her from US capitalist colonialist bastards? :) |
| [06:31:00] | Beirdo: | Nice |
| [06:31:00] | Beirdo: | hell no |
| [06:31:00] | Beirdo: | I'm planning on braving the INS nightmare and moving to PR |
| [06:32:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: lol, what has this world come to. |
| [06:32:00] | mchou: | lord help us |
| [06:32:00] | Beirdo: | yeah well |
| [06:32:00] | Beirdo: | it's the Caribbean, dude |
| [06:32:00] | Beirdo: | screw politics |
| [06:32:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [06:33:00] | _Nero_: | amen!! :) |
| [06:33:00] | Beirdo: | a long way to go on that though |
| [06:33:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [06:33:00] | Beirdo: | but for now, I'm insanely happy |
| [06:33:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [06:33:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: maybe by the time you get married Bush/Cheney might get impeached :) |
| [06:33:00] | Beirdo: | and I brought my mom down with me too |
| [06:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:33:00] | Beirdo: | doubt it |
| [06:33:00] | Beirdo: | they have till the end of May |
| [06:33:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: meet the family moment? |
| [06:33:00] | Beirdo: | nah, it was great |
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| [06:49:00] | Beirdo: | oh GOD, you shoulda seen the engagement party though. eek! |
| [06:49:00] | _Nero_: | lol.. bad eek or good? |
| [06:50:00] | Beirdo: | her mom's family is frigging HUGE |
| [06:50:00] | _Nero_: | a bit on the shocking side??? |
| [06:50:00] | Beirdo: | and she told me after the party "that was about 1/3 of my family, some couldn't make it" |
| [06:50:00] | Beirdo: | heh, yeah, a bit |
| [06:51:00] | _Nero_: | well, now the easy part is over.. ;) |
| [06:51:00] | ** Beirdo waits to see the catering bill for the wedding ** | |
| [06:51:00] | ** _Nero_ thinks Beirdo should elope!! ;) ** | |
| [06:51:00] | ** Beirdo thinks his soon-to-be-father-in-law would kill him ** | |
| [06:51:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:51:00] | _Nero_: | man.. we did an island wedding to keep costs down.. doesn't sound like that strategy would work for you.. ;) |
| [06:52:00] | Beirdo: | don't think we both didn't think of checking for prices of Vegas flights |
| [06:52:00] | _Nero_: | hehehe |
| [06:52:00] | Beirdo: | well, the current estimate is 300–400 |
| [06:52:00] | _Nero_: | damn!! |
| [06:52:00] | _Nero_: | We had.. 12 |
| [06:52:00] | Beirdo: | I WISH |
| [06:52:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:53:00] | _Nero_: | (then had a party a few weeks later for 160) |
| [06:53:00] | Beirdo: | strangely enough, I'm not nervous about it at ALL |
| [06:53:00] | _Nero_: | nah.. nothing to really be nervous about.. but the planning can get a bit.. erm.. overwhelming.. |
| [06:54:00] | _Nero_: | (if you are the type to jump in and get your hands dirty with it.. some grooms choose to do nothing) |
| [06:54:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:54:00] | _Nero_: | (I knew if I did that, we'd be paying off this wedding for the next 40 years) |
| [06:54:00] | Beirdo: | I choose to rescue her from her mother as much as I can |
| [06:54:00] | _Nero_: | hehe |
| [06:55:00] | _Nero_: | its all worth it in the end.. (just keep telling yourself that.. and it is.. but at times in the planning it wont seem like it) |
| [06:55:00] | Beirdo: | it's SO worth it |
| [06:55:00] | _Nero_: | not marrying her.. that you wont ever question (hopefully).. but all the plans that go into the wedding itself |
| [06:56:00] | Beirdo: | I want the wedding the way SHE wants it |
| [06:56:00] | Beirdo: | I don't care what her mom wants |
| [06:56:00] | Beirdo: | or anyone else |
| [06:56:00] | _Nero_: | but.. who's paying? |
| [06:56:00] | Beirdo: | they are irrelevant |
| [06:56:00] | Beirdo: | so far... us |
| [06:56:00] | _Nero_: | good.. then you can go that route.. |
| [06:56:00] | _Nero_: | (we paid our own as well) |
| [06:56:00] | Beirdo: | well, what we want happens to coincide with what her father wants |
| [06:57:00] | Beirdo: | so far |
| [06:57:00] | Beirdo: | so we might get SOME help.. hehe |
| [06:57:00] | _Nero_: | a good buddy of mine was getting married a month after us.. his mother-in-law was pretty much dictating everything.. but then again, she was paying for it all.. |
| [06:57:00] | _Nero_: | how'd you pop the question? |
| [06:58:00] | Beirdo: | after dinner |
| [06:58:00] | Beirdo: | at an expensive restaurant |
| [06:58:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:58:00] | Beirdo: | but she knew it was coming |
| [06:58:00] | Beirdo: | and she knew when, and she'd said yes like 20 times before :) |
| [06:58:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [06:58:00] | _Nero_: | hehe.. that works!! :) takes some pressure off asking the question.. |
| [06:59:00] | Beirdo: | for sure |
| [06:59:00] | Beirdo: | I knew what her answer would be |
| [06:59:00] | _Nero_: | (though if you didnt know the answer, you probably shouldn't be asking it) |
| [06:59:00] | Beirdo: | I was more worried about what her dad thought of it all |
| [06:59:00] | Beirdo: | even though she's 28, and I'm 31.... |
| [06:59:00] | _Nero_: | I dragged my fiance-to-be up a 14k foot mountain- and asked at the top.. woulda been a loooong climb down had she said no.. ;) |
| [06:59:00] | Beirdo: | and he's happy with it. |
| [06:59:00] | Beirdo: | so :) |
| [07:00:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:00:00] | _Nero_: | thats good to hear.. having the in-laws on your side is definitely a good thing! |
| [07:00:00] | Beirdo: | or a really short one for her if you lost your head and pushed her |
| [07:00:00] | _Nero_: | haha... yeah.. that woulda been bad.. |
| [07:00:00] | Beirdo: | very bad |
| [07:00:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, it's all going well |
| [07:01:00] | _Nero_: | when ya find the right person.. its all over.. :) |
| [07:01:00] | _Nero_: | (in a good way) |
| [07:01:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [07:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:01:00] | Beirdo: | it was funny... |
| [07:01:00] | Beirdo: | she was telling me to look at her cousin... "Isn't she pretty?" |
| [07:01:00] | Beirdo: | I was too busy looking at her to look at her cousin |
| [07:01:00] | _Nero_: | uh oh... a trap! ;) |
| [07:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:02:00] | Beirdo: | "COME ON, LOOK AT HER!" |
| [07:02:00] | Beirdo: | heheheh |
| [07:02:00] | _Nero_: | You are a lucky man.. |
| [07:02:00] | _Nero_: | just so long as she doesnt start asking the "do these jeans make my ass look fat?" question, you are golden.. |
| [07:02:00] | Beirdo: | yes, your 14-year old cousin is going to break some hearts really soon, dear. |
| [07:02:00] | _Nero_: | hahaha |
| [07:03:00] | Beirdo: | what a fun trip |
| [07:03:00] | _Nero_: | did you get to tour the island a bit? |
| [07:04:00] | Beirdo: | not this time |
| [07:04:00] | Beirdo: | I did last time I was down |
| [07:04:00] | Beirdo: | got to tour some houses though |
| [07:04:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [07:04:00] | Beirdo: | one of which she put an offer on today |
| [07:04:00] | _Nero_: | nice! |
| [07:04:00] | Beirdo: | BIG backyard |
| [07:04:00] | _Nero_: | Man, I long to get back down that way.. I jokingly say to Jen "we should just pick up and move to St. John." but I am half serious.. |
| [07:05:00] | Beirdo: | or to PR |
| [07:05:00] | Beirdo: | it's US |
| [07:05:00] | _Nero_: | How long before you think you'll move down there? |
| [07:05:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [07:05:00] | _Nero_: | Both are US.. :) |
| [07:05:00] | Beirdo: | I hope to have a job offer in a couple months |
| [07:05:00] | Beirdo: | and to be able to move down on a TN visa |
| [07:06:00] | CyberKnet: | is a TN easier to get than a K2? |
| [07:06:00] | _Nero_: | I'm happy for ya man.. sounds like you have lots of exciting times ahead!! |
| [07:06:00] | Beirdo: | NAFTA had some use after all, who woulda thought? |
| [07:06:00] | _Nero_: | hehe |
| [07:06:00] | Beirdo: | WAY easier |
| [07:06:00] | Beirdo: | but only for Canadian and Mexican citizens |
| [07:06:00] | CyberKnet: | hmm... my mother didn't have any trouble getting a K2, but it did cost a lot b time everything was said and done. |
| [07:06:00] | CyberKnet: | aaah. |
| [07:06:00] | CyberKnet: | that would make sense. |
| [07:06:00] | Beirdo: | which I happen to qualify for just nicely if I get a job offer |
| [07:07:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, the K2 is a 6-month wait minimum |
| [07:07:00] | Beirdo: | so we were told |
| [07:07:00] | Beirdo: | the hell with that |
| [07:07:00] | CyberKnet: | nice part about a K2 is it converts to a greencard |
| [07:07:00] | CyberKnet: | does a TN? |
| [07:07:00] | Beirdo: | TN is a 2-week |
| [07:07:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [07:07:00] | Beirdo: | so we'd have to do a whack more paperwork later |
| [07:07:00] | CyberKnet: | ouch |
| [07:07:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [07:08:00] | Beirdo: | but that's just so I can work in the US before getting married, etc |
| [07:08:00] | _Nero_: | Once you are married, isnt it much easier to become a citizen? |
| [07:09:00] | Beirdo: | in theory |
| [07:09:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno if I want dual citizenship or not though |
| [07:09:00] | CyberKnet: | USA doesn't allow dual citizenship |
| [07:10:00] | CyberKnet: | just fyi |
| [07:10:00] | Beirdo: | sure they do |
| [07:10:00] | Beirdo: | they can't tell me to remove my Canadian citizenship |
| [07:10:00] | Beirdo: | only Canada can tell me to do that |
| [07:11:00] | CyberKnet: | They do require you to renounce your canadian citizenship in order to take usa citizenship |
| [07:11:00] | CyberKnet: | last time I checked |
| [07:11:00] | Beirdo: | well fuck them with a chainsaw |
| [07:11:00] | CyberKnet: | touche` |
| [07:11:00] | Beirdo: | and I don't know that that's correct. |
| [07:11:00] | Beirdo: | but whatever |
| [07:11:00] | Beirdo: | that would be years down the line |
| [07:11:00] | CyberKnet: | my brother took citizenship last year |
| [07:11:00] | _Nero_: | yeah, I think you can only be dual up until you are 18 (if your parents were US citizens, but you were born in a foreign country), but at 18 you must choose.. |
| [07:12:00] | _Nero_: | (from what I remember in American Studies class in 7th grade.. lol) |
| [07:12:00] | Beirdo: | I'd like to see that stated on a US govt site somewhere |
| [07:12:00] | Beirdo: | I've heard that before, but never seen the official policy stating it |
| [07:12:00] | CyberKnet: | if your're a citizen of the british empire then your citizenship is a birthright, but afaik canada does not hold its citizenship as a birth right |
| [07:12:00] | Beirdo: | um, I wouldn't be so sure of that |
| [07:13:00] | CyberKnet: | australia certainly does not. |
| [07:13:00] | Beirdo: | yeah well |
| [07:13:00] | CyberKnet: | it is obtainable by birth, but if you renounce it, it is gone. |
| [07:13:00] | CyberKnet: | most countries are that way |
| [07:13:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [07:13:00] | CyberKnet: | just not the british empire. |
| [07:14:00] | CyberKnet: | germany used to be like that. I'm not sure if they still are. |
| [07:14:00] | Beirdo: | I know of people who are dual citizens US/Canada |
| [07:14:00] | Beirdo: | and > 18 |
| [07:14:00] | Beirdo: | so there must be a way |
| [07:14:00] | CyberKnet: | they be grandfathered in. it wasn't always this way. |
| [07:14:00] | Beirdo: | of course, it might be US first, then Canada |
| [07:14:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:14:00] | CyberKnet: | also, were they citizens of the USA first? |
| [07:14:00] | CyberKnet: | yeah |
| [07:14:00] | CyberKnet: | because that makes a difference. |
| [07:14:00] | Beirdo: | only to the nitwits in Washington |
| [07:14:00] | Beirdo: | but whatever |
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| [07:15:00] | Beirdo: | we'll see |
| [07:15:00] | CyberKnet: | it's all about who is granting citizenship |
| [07:15:00] | Beirdo: | that's something I'd go over with in great detail with a lawyer before shooting myself in various body parts by assuming |
| [07:16:00] | CyberKnet: | the usa to my knowledge will not grant you its citizenship if you currently hold citizenship elsewhere. Canada will. so they don't ask you to renounce your usa citizenship. Australia also will, so they don't ask you to renounce your usa citizenship |
| [07:16:00] | Beirdo: | the USA sucks ass |
| [07:17:00] | Beirdo: | I want citizenship in Puerto Rico, give them independence already |
| [07:20:00] | _Nero_: | Beirdo- |
| [07:20:00] | _Nero_: | looks like you may be right.. |
| [07:20:00] | _Nero_: | "or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth." |
| [07:21:00] | _Nero_: | from a "pay us lots of money and we will help you become a US citizen" website.. |
| [07:21:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [07:21:00] | Beirdo: | I think it's EASIER if you renounce |
| [07:21:00] | Beirdo: | but I don't think it's technically necessary |
| [07:21:00] | Beirdo: | may be a hell of a lot cheaper too |
| [07:22:00] | _Nero_: | Well, congrats again.. I gotta go crash.. ttyl |
| [07:22:00] | Beirdo: | Ciao :) |
| [07:26:00] | mandyblock: | damn, I may have got lirc working now |
| [07:26:00] | mandyblock: | was my load order, and I have to creat a sym link in dev to get it to start |
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| [08:08:00] | trans_err: | everything works now except i'm getting tons of artificating, ghosting, etc... I don't get any of these effects when watching with xawtv, etc... is there a way to fix this? |
| [08:08:00] | trans_err: | *artifacting |
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| [08:17:00] | jp-autark: | is there a patch for mythtv to make it work with mysql 5? |
| [08:20:00] | xris: | is there an easy way to install ubuntu without formatting the disk? I see no option like "use current partition table"... I have an lvm with / formatted as XFS and an fc4 installation on it (moved out of the way). Can't just reformat because I need the data. |
| [08:20:00] | xris: | oops, wrong window |
| [08:22:00] | Rince: | xris: shouldn't be too hard |
| [08:23:00] | xris: | Rince: you'd think. thankfully I'm getting some info in #ubuntu where I was supposed to have typed that question. |
| [08:23:00] | Rince: | xris: if I remember correctly, they are using the debian installer. There you can just ignore the "partition the hard drive" and just mount the existing stuff |
| [08:23:00] | Rince: | ok :) |
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| [10:31:00] | rapha: | Hi all! |
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| [12:25:00] | simon_c: | Hi All. Can anyone sugest a playback filter to apply in the following situation. The colors are very bright, some of them even having a halo effect around them. This is most noticable on cartoons etc. I've tried the standard "adjust" filter, but it's not made much difference. |
| [12:25:00] | simon_c: | The problem is probably due to the VGA-TV box I'm using, cos it play back fine on my main laptop, and on the main TV. |
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| [12:35:00] | ExitMenu: | Hello, I was wondering if mythTv can be made to encode into windows media 9 format ? |
| [12:38:00] | simon_c: | ExitMenu: Why would you want to ? |
| [12:38:00] | laga: | simon_c: did you play around with the xv picture controls to fix that? |
| [12:38:00] | simon_c: | laga: No. Where would I do that ? |
| [12:39:00] | laga: | simon_c: uh, i don't know. you can enable the xv picture controls in TV -> playback IIRC. and then, you probably could use the OSD ('m') |
| [12:40:00] | simon_c: | I didnt' see anything there, but I'll check again. |
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| [12:41:00] | ExitMenu: | Its for work, we are either going to go with Windows Media Center or MythTV one of the requirements is the ability to make wmv s so I was hoping it could be done |
| [12:42:00] | ExitMenu: | I am guessing it can as from what I can gather mythTV uses Mplayer which has wmv9 codecs (although I am not sure it can encode into them) |
| [12:42:00] | simon_c: | ExitMenu: I'm not sure if there's a wvm encoder for linux, but if there is, then I woudl expect at the very least you can add it as a user job to export to wmv. If that's what you want. |
| [12:42:00] | laga: | well, nuvexport can transcode your recordings to .wmv. |
| [12:42:00] | laga: | ExitMenu: mythtv does not use mplayer. |
| [12:43:00] | simon_c: | I'd have thought you could add a transcode setting to encode in wmv codecs, but they would still be in nue file format. And I've no idea how to do it :-) |
| [12:43:00] | ExitMenu: | well lets hope I can fig it out else I will be stuck using windows media center |
| [12:44:00] | simon_c: | ExitMenu: Do you want to export recordings as wmv, or actually store the encoded files in wmv inside myth. |
| [12:45:00] | ExitMenu: | exporting them as wmv will surfice |
| [12:46:00] | ExitMenu: | as long as they can be output as wmv files then it keeps the people in playout happy |
| [12:46:00] | simon_c: | you can probably create a user job to run after the recording to export the recording in wmv format. As laga said, running nuvexport |
| [12:46:00] | ExitMenu: | what is the native mythTV format is it mpeg 2 / mpeg 4 |
| [12:46:00] | ExitMenu: | kewl I will investiage that |
| [12:46:00] | simon_c: | I'm confused about that. |
| [12:46:00] | simon_c: | :-/ |
| [12:46:00] | simon_c: | Personally, I persuaded windows to play .nue files. |
| [12:49:00] | ExitMenu: | unfortuanly that is not an option |
| [12:49:00] | ExitMenu: | The media goes out to an end user with no computing experience |
| [12:49:00] | ExitMenu: | and before this happens it must be DRM ed and a comercial decision was taken to use M$ drm |
| [12:50:00] | laga: | you won't be able to use DRM with linux. |
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| [12:58:00] | ExitMenu: | no I dont need to that will be applied at a later stage before the Windows Using public get there hands on it |
| [12:59:00] | ExitMenu: | One other little question is will MythTV work the a Hauppage PVR350 remote control |
| [12:59:00] | laga: | yes, it will :) |
| [12:59:00] | ExitMenu: | kewl |
| [13:00:00] | ExitMenu: | This should be a fun afternoon, we have one MS advocate and me proposing mythtv the kit is all here its now time to set it up and see which runs best |
| [13:01:00] | Dagmar: | Don't bet your money on Myth |
| [13:01:00] | ExitMenu: | no is it not great |
| [13:01:00] | Dagmar: | The Windows packages work, but they don't try to do nearly as much as Myth |
| [13:03:00] | laga: | for me, a lot of fun with mythtv is the tinkering and fiddling. sure, it runs great without it, but i actually dont watch much TV ;) |
| [13:03:00] | ExitMenu: | I have a P4 2.8 1.5Gig of ram and two PVR350s and a 300GB hdd with 16mb cache so hopefully spec should not be an issue |
| [13:03:00] | Dagmar: | ExitMenu: You'll be hard-pressed to strain that |
| [13:04:00] | laga: | that's almost overspec'ed ;) |
| [13:04:00] | Dagmar: | The 1.5Gb of RAM is a bit overkill tho |
| [13:04:00] | Dagmar: | You could probably have stopped at 1Gb |
| [13:04:00] | laga: | one of my mythtv boxes is a p3 with 450mhz |
| [13:04:00] | ExitMenu: | yeh be we were slightly conserned about the requirments for WMC as ms them selfs told us that 1G of ram was a min |
| [13:05:00] | Dagmar: | Well, Windows itself starts out needed 256Mb at a minimum |
| [13:05:00] | Dagmar: | er needing |
| [13:05:00] | ExitMenu: | (if you wanted to encode more that one stream( |
| [13:05:00] | Dagmar: | I seldom see my linux boxes go over 20Mb or so of consumption, excluding disk cache and so forth until I start X |
| [13:07:00] | ExitMenu: | to be honnest when the compay is going to pay for the system I was not about to suggest some low spec box, this way we can use it for other things later if needs be lol |
| [13:07:00] | Dagmar: | Well, the extra ram will be handy for filesystem caching if nothing else. |
| [13:08:00] | Dagmar: | It should make skipping around in the live tv buffer pretty smooth |
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| [14:36:00] | mandyblock: | your free to tinker with my mythtv |
| [14:36:00] | mandyblock: | and make it work |
| [14:36:00] | laga: | you're free to pay me for it ;) |
| [14:37:00] | mandyblock: | your satisfaction will be a reward |
| [14:37:00] | laga: | sorry, i only accept hard currencies ;) |
| [14:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Blah |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, the rom search page works, though I should make it place large result sets on multiple pages and use a indexed search. But at least it works for now :) |
| [14:41:00] | laga: | nice ;) |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/romdb/index.php |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | 165k of roms in there currently |
| [14:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | still lots of stuff to be filled in, but they are there and searchable |
| [14:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't have it displaying all of the rom data, just some of it at the moment |
| [14:43:00] | laga: | i'm currently tinkering a lot with a low end frontend. i still need to set up mythvideo and mythgame correctly on my main box |
| [14:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got another data source I want to pull in, then I'll work on filling in the rest of the publisher/release year info followed by Genre/Category stuff |
| [14:46:00] | laga: | do you pull data off the web? |
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| [14:57:00] | simon_c: | I was having problems with mythmusic and large numbers of MP3s. It was very slow, and there didn't seem to be an easy way to list by albums, not track. But, that might just be me. It was late. |
| [14:57:00] | laga: | the slowness is being worked on, iirc. search for "bubble sort" in svn.mythtv.org |
| [14:58:00] | simon_c: | Can you mix svn versions of the plugins with the stable version of the front/back ends ? |
| [14:58:00] | laga: | i set the "directory" keyword in mythmusic so when i browse my collection, it shows me the layout as it is on the filesystem |
| [14:58:00] | laga: | simon_c: no, likely not |
| [14:58:00] | simon_c: | I'll try that. |
| [14:59:00] | simon_c: | laga: Shame. After christmas, I should have some time I can devote to tinkering around with myth more. |
| [14:59:00] | simon_c: | but I'd better not break the running system, or the other half will get very miffed. |
| [15:00:00] | laga: | simon_c: hehe. well, maybe you're a lucky guy and we will have a 0.19 by then |
| [15:00:00] | simon_c: | Maybe. |
| [15:01:00] | simon_c: | Without knowing what I'm talking about.. I'd like to start understanding, and maybe documenting the database layout. |
| [15:01:00] | laga: | that would be cool. |
| [15:02:00] | simon_c: | then, tryiing to see how easy it is to hack around with mythweb, and if needed try to sort out a way to make it easy for others to put additions in there. |
| [15:02:00] | laga: | mythweb could use some love, yes |
| [15:03:00] | simon_c: | cos, the way I see it, it people should find it easier to hack around with web applets, than diving into programming the front end. |
| [15:03:00] | simon_c: | but it really depends if I have time in the new year. Could all be pipe dreams..... |
| [15:04:00] | simon_c: | things I'm thinking. Renaming a recording should be easy for mythweb to do. |
| [15:05:00] | laga: | we already have the ability to rename recordings in current SVN |
| [15:05:00] | laga: | well, probably not in mythweb, though |
| [15:05:00] | simon_c: | Ahh. Cool. |
| [15:05:00] | simon_c: | Ahh, not so cool :-) |
| [15:06:00] | simon_c: | Other than my laptop (which is wireless 90% of the tiem) the computers with keyboards in my house have windows (spit) on them. |
| [15:06:00] | laga: | yikes |
| [15:06:00] | simon_c: | contenplating myth inside a vmware machine, but not sure what kind of machine you'd need to play it ;-) |
| [15:07:00] | laga: | hehe. that would suck. vmware doesn't provide Xv, iirc ;) |
| [15:07:00] | simon_c: | Xv ? |
| [15:08:00] | laga: | Xvideo. that's the stuff that automagically scales dthe video and everything in the graphics card |
| [15:08:00] | simon_c: | Ahhh. |
| [15:08:00] | simon_c: | not even 5.5 ? |
| [15:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: I've gathered several sources of data that I wrote scripts to parse and stuff into the database |
| [15:09:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: nice |
| [15:09:00] | laga: | simon_c: not sure. ask them :) |
| [15:09:00] | simon_c: | :-) |
| [15:09:00] | simon_c: | suck it and see I think. |
| [15:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got one more I plan to pull data from, then I'll start looking for searchable archives for filling in some of it and write something to go out and scrape those sites :) |
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| [15:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been parsing the xmame xml data, Good Utils Dat files, and several other things I found |
| [15:12:00] | laga: | sounds like something we can look forward to ;) |
| [15:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | once I go through all that I'll start writing utils to pull some of the data right from the rom binaries themselves. A lot of them contain stuff like release data/year and publisher etc |
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| [15:22:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: sounds spiffy! |
| [15:22:00] | laga: | would anyone know why my mythfrontend crashes when i try to use the quickdnr filter? this support supports sse/mmx and the other filters all work fine |
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| [15:33:00] | sphing: | has anyone loaded myth onto a realtime linux distro? |
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| [17:37:00] | jnunez: | Hi All. |
| [17:38:00] | jnunez: | Q: Which is a better card for MythTV? Plextor's USB MPEG4 or Hap's PVR 250 (or 350)? |
| [17:38:00] | laga: | PVR 250, imho |
| [17:39:00] | laga: | or 150. it's cheaper. |
| [17:40:00] | jnunez: | I am trying to find a feature comparison between 150 til 500 but can't find it |
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| [17:41:00] | Krazylegz: | http://hauppauge.com/pages/compare_pvr.html |
| [17:41:00] | jnunez: | What is the difference between 250 and the 150? and where do you purchase most of your tech gear? |
| [17:41:00] | jnunez: | Thanks |
| [17:41:00] | Krazylegz: | I buy from NewEgg now. I'm sure everyone has their favorite. |
| [17:41:00] | jnunez: | I usually buy from ZipZoomFly or NewEgg |
| [17:42:00] | jnunez: | Thanks for the info let me go read the diffs between the cards |
| [17:42:00] | Dagmar: | If you're looking at the 150 you might as well consider the 500 |
| [17:42:00] | Dagmar: | It's generally cheaper than two 150's |
| [17:44:00] | jnunez: | Doing a Vs against a MCE box for a video podcast. The box have to be the same except for the Video and Tuner cards |
| [17:45:00] | jnunez: | The qualifications are Live TV Pause, Recording and a few others (mostly Tivo features) |
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| [17:49:00] | jnunez: | Is the 150MCE compatible with MythTV or only with MCE? |
| [17:50:00] | laga: | it should be support by ivtv |
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| [17:50:00] | laga: | http://ivtv.sf.net |
| [17:50:00] | malaTG: | I have one works great |
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| [17:50:00] | simon_c: | Hauppauge are offering some deals for these nova-t cards. Computer2000 (a distributor) are offering them for £36.75+vat&carrage. |
| [17:51:00] | simon_c: | Anyone any ideas if Hauppage are replacing them with another terestrial digital card of some kind ? |
| [17:52:00] | simon_c: | (I'm hoping one that has a card slot for "topup tv") |
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| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | I'm sure Hauppauge knows |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | re Beirdo |
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| [17:56:00] | laga: | Beirdo: how was your vacation? |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | heya, laga |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | fiancee++ |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | Beirdo: awesome :) |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | it was good, I don't wanna work today |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:57:00] | Beirdo: | house++ |
| [17:57:00] | laga: | nobody ever wants to |
| [17:57:00] | Krazylegz: | Some people want to work, they're workaholics. |
| [17:57:00] | Krazylegz: | Though, then it's not really work... |
| [17:57:00] | Beirdo: | well, offer accepted anyways |
| [17:57:00] | laga: | and i want to drink.. ;) |
| [17:57:00] | Beirdo: | we don't HAVE it |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | and I want the hot weather back |
| [18:00:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | JEEZ |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | I'm falling asleep at NOON?! |
| [18:04:00] | laga: | caffein! |
| [18:04:00] | laga: | caffeine* rather |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | siesta time :) |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | ah, I guess caffeine |
| [18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Blah |
| [18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | I wanna go home |
| [18:15:00] | laga: | i want a working quickdnr |
| [18:16:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [18:17:00] | Beirdo: | I want bed |
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| [18:17:00] | jnunez: | Are all the PVR cards Hardware MPEG2? |
| [18:18:00] | ** Beirdo points jnunez at the Hauppauge website ** | |
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| [18:18:00] | Beirdo: | the 150,250, 350 an 500 are all MPEG2 in hardware, yes |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I GOTTA get off my ass |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | this is ridiculous |
| [18:19:00] | jnunez: | Thanks |
| [18:19:00] | ** GreyFoxx is about to look for a a perl SQLite module ** | |
| [18:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | hopefully there is a DBI module for it |
| [18:19:00] | jnunez: | I mistyped. I meant decoding? |
| [18:20:00] | jnunez: | I have the Hap. Page up and only the 350 seems to have it. |
| [18:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | jnunez: Only the 350 does both encoding and decoding |
| [18:20:00] | jnunez: | Ok thanks. Will a NVidia 5200 be enough for playback on a P3 system? |
| [18:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | How fast is the P3 ? |
| [18:22:00] | jnunez: | 933MHz. My opponent claims it is enough for the MCE of this dual |
| [18:22:00] | laga: | should be enough. |
| [18:22:00] | jnunez: | Cool |
| [18:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | that should be fine |
| [18:22:00] | laga: | even a p3 with 450mhz can be enough with the proper setup |
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| [18:23:00] | jnunez: | Yeah but I think his MCE setup won't run on that |
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| [18:25:00] | jnunez: | I am using KnoppMyth for the setup. I just need to explain XMLTV and IR setup so it won't look like a negative. |
| [18:26:00] | feld (n=feld@24-183-111-238.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:26:00] | feld: | hello everyone i'm back |
| [18:26:00] | ** laga cheers wildly ** | |
| [18:26:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [18:26:00] | feld: | and i'm looking for some answers |
| [18:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | jnunez: Who are you showing it too ? |
| [18:26:00] | jnunez: | It's for a video podcast |
| [18:26:00] | feld: | raise your hand if you are good with xorg.conf tv-out configuration. (nvidia mx 4000 composite) |
| [18:27:00] | laga: | feld: just ask your question ;) |
| [18:27:00] | feld: | laga: my question is how do i configure xorg.conf for tv out |
| [18:27:00] | feld: | LOL |
| [18:27:00] | feld: | because every config i find is totally different |
| [18:28:00] | laga: | my answer is to read the nvidia docs, they're really good. |
| [18:28:00] | feld: | and i want REAL working answers from real people. |
| [18:28:00] | laga: | i used them to set up my tv-out a few days ago |
| [18:28:00] | feld: | got a link to those docs? |
| [18:28:00] | laga: | sorry, no. go to www.nvidia.com and select "drivers" at the top of the page |
| [18:28:00] | feld: | ok |
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| [18:37:00] | feld: | laga: can you tell me how to make xorg ignore that there is no keyboard or mouse input |
| [18:38:00] | Beirdo: | raise your hand if you can use google :) |
| [18:38:00] | laga: | feld: nope, sorry. i haven't done this yet. |
| [18:38:00] | laga: | well, with this machine at least |
| [18:39:00] | feld: | Beirdo: was being an asshole a requirement for getting voiced? |
| [18:39:00] | Beirdo: | ha ha ha |
| [18:39:00] | feld: | considering that this is a mythtv help channel its pretty sad that you have to pull a Debian on me and tell me to go elsewhere |
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| [18:40:00] | Beirdo: | I'm telling you to do a bit of research yourself as the first step |
| [18:40:00] | feld: | maybe i'm just too used to the Gentoo community where people actually help you |
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| [18:40:00] | Beirdo: | people here help |
| [18:40:00] | Beirdo: | all the time |
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| [18:43:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [18:44:00] | Beirdo: | sigh. |
| [18:44:00] | Beirdo: | some people just want too much hand-holding. when google has all the answers |
| [18:45:00] | Hoxzer: | Beirdo: where your money goes? |
| [18:46:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:46:00] | Beirdo: | and feld coulda tried #xorg for an obvious xorg question too |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | my money? seems to like to go to American Airlines |
| [18:47:00] | Hoxzer: | why? |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | because |
| [18:48:00] | Hoxzer: | :E |
| [18:48:00] | Hoxzer: | do you think that was a lame answer? |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | maybe |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | it's hard to travel without airlines |
| [18:48:00] | Hoxzer: | You can always buy a donkey |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | uh huh |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | I don't think a donkey would swim across the Sargasso Sea for me |
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| [18:57:00] | kormoc: | yeah, you need a seahorse for that |
| [18:59:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:59:00] | Beirdo: | or a cuban car |
| [19:00:00] | Krazylegz: | #mythtv-stereotypes |
| [19:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | mmmm cuba |
| [19:00:00] | kormoc: | So I found a funny new beer the other day |
| [19:00:00] | kormoc: | http://kormoc.homelinux.org/gallery/Monty_Pythons_Holy_Grail_Ale |
| [19:01:00] | Krazylegz: | "Tempered over burning witches." |
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| [19:26:00] | Alan66: | I realize this is not the best place to ask but searching for some help and not really sure where to go.. I have a dbox2 (sportster image) but I am getting screen freezes.. anyone know where I can get help or advice (channel etc?) |
| [19:26:00] | laga: | Alan66: probably #dbox2 in the ircnet. |
| [19:26:00] | laga: | oh, wait. they don't like sportster. |
| [19:26:00] | laga: | umm, sorry, dunno then |
| [19:26:00] | Alan66: | ircnet.. can't connect ... |
| [19:27:00] | Alan66: | I think my IP is banned (NTL) |
| [19:27:00] | laga: | http://webchat.xs4all.nl/cgi-bin/ircnet/irc.cgi <- try this. |
| [19:27:00] | levon: | Alan66, where do you get the freezes? |
| [19:28:00] | levon: | Alan66, you use it with myth or standalone? |
| [19:28:00] | levon: | #dbox2 if standalone |
| [19:28:00] | levon: | #<here> if w/ myth |
| [19:28:00] | Alan66: | levon freezes with sportster 1.73 UK image |
| [19:28:00] | levon: | yeah, doing what exactly? |
| [19:28:00] | Alan66: | watching tv? |
| [19:28:00] | levon: | recording, wathcing, booting, zapping, hitting the head with the box.... |
| [19:29:00] | levon: | standalone or with myth? |
| [19:29:00] | Alan66: | standalone |
| [19:29:00] | levon: | i c |
| [19:29:00] | levon: | then #dbox2 is probably the way to go |
| [19:29:00] | levon: | make sure you use correct ucodes |
| [19:29:00] | levon: | dunno about sportster though, so I cannot tell you much |
| [19:29:00] | ** levon uses neutrino ** | |
| [19:30:00] | Alan66: | i get confused but I believe it is neutrino sportster.. |
| [19:30:00] | levon: | I'd try a yadi image first |
| [19:30:00] | Alan66: | yadi? will that get me UK digital? |
| [19:31:00] | levon: | why not? it gives you whatever it can receive... ;) |
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| [19:32:00] | Alan66: | levon tried to pm you but didn't realize you had to register.. how do you reg or is there a chan we can chat without boring everyone else? |
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| [19:32:00] | levon: | /msg NickServ help register |
| [19:32:00] | laga: | msg NickServ help register |
| [19:32:00] | levon: | but please, do not pm me, I cannot stand switching all the irc windows all the time ;) |
| [19:32:00] | laga: | darn ;) |
| [19:32:00] | levon: | laga: ;) |
| [19:33:00] | levon: | Alan66, or take into account that I might need some time to respond ;) |
| [19:33:00] | Alan66: | :) |
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| [19:46:00] | Anonycat: | I'm trying to compile MythTV, but after running ./configure, I get a makefile that's a link to itself |
| [19:46:00] | Anonycat: | How do I proceed from there? |
| [19:47:00] | laga: | qmake mythtv.pro |
| [19:47:00] | Anonycat: | bash: qmake: command not found |
| [19:48:00] | ** Beirdo hands laga an R, T, F and an M ** | |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | I think the build procedure is actually fairly well documented |
| [19:49:00] | Anonycat: | What is "qmake"? |
| [19:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | a command that comes with the QT libraries |
| [19:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | for taking QT .pro files and generalting makefiles |
| [19:49:00] | Anonycat: | MythTV only works in KDE? |
| [19:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | no, Myth has nothing to do with KDE |
| [19:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Myth uses QT |
| [19:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | KDE just happens to use QT as well |
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| [19:50:00] | Anonycat: | I'm seeing qt 1:3.3.4–15.4 installed, but obviously qmake doesn't exist |
| [19:50:00] | Anonycat: | What QT package includes it? |
| [19:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | It just might not be in your path |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | likely a qt-devel or something |
| [19:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | $QTDIR/bin/qmake , with $QTDIR being the directory QT was installed in |
| [19:56:00] | Anonycat: | After installing qt-devel, qmake exists, but I get "Failure to open file: /home/user1/mythtv-0.18.1.tar.bz2_FILES/mythtv-0.18.1/Makefile" |
| [19:56:00] | Anonycat: | again, that file is a link to itself |
| [19:57:00] | laga: | rm /home/user1/mythtv-0.18.1.tar.bz2_FILES/mythtv-0.18.1/Makefile |
| [20:00:00] | Anonycat: | that allows it to proceed to http://pastebin.com/406845 |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | What gcc version ? |
| [20:01:00] | levon: | Anonycat, rerun ./configure |
| [20:02:00] | Anonycat: | same error |
| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | What gcc version ? |
| [20:02:00] | Anonycat: | GCC 4.0.1 |
| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's likely your problem |
| [20:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't think 0.18.1 will compile under gcc 4 |
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| [20:07:00] | jnunez: | Is LxM worth it? Does MythTV developer have their own donation system? I want to mention this on the video podcast |
| [20:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Never used lxm, but I don't think any donation system for myth |
| [20:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | I saw a screenshot of a nice looking lxm theme, but other than that I doin't know much about it :) |
| [20:10:00] | jnunez: | Ok I might just mention LxM and state that it goes to support the developers and get some themes. |
| [20:10:00] | levon: | GreyFoxx, it does, using it here. |
| [20:10:00] | kormoc: | jnunez, you also get improved program listings and more then 14 days in the future |
| [20:10:00] | levon: | erm, 0.18.1, sorry, I was talking about current svn |
| [20:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't know how the money for lxm works. I've don't know if any ever actually makes it to any devs or not |
| [20:11:00] | jams: | not having that survey is pretty nice |
| [20:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | levon: heh np :) |
| [20:11:00] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, it's a bounty system |
| [20:11:00] | levon: | ;) |
| [20:11:00] | kormoc: | they put up a bounty, say, $100 to impliment x feature |
| [20:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | 10 seconds of my time every 3 months is worth the price of free to me :) |
| [20:11:00] | kormoc: | whoever does so, gets $100 |
| [20:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Has anyone ever actually done so and collected ? :) |
| [20:12:00] | kormoc: | not that I know |
| [20:12:00] | laga: | that's kind of lame. |
| [20:12:00] | kormoc: | I just know the theory behind it :P |
| [20:12:00] | kormoc: | laga, the bountys are set by the users, each month they get $5 in bounty points to put towards a bounty. |
| [20:13:00] | laga: | yes, i know. |
| [20:13:00] | kormoc: | so the more users want a feature, the most it would pay |
| [20:13:00] | laga: | sad that they keep that all behind the scenes, away from the public |
| [20:16:00] | jnunez: | Well the themes and the listing is pretty good. My opponent (also my brother) laughed at the need to fill out a survey compared to his MCE |
| [20:16:00] | Alan66: | anyone here using a yadi image? |
| [20:17:00] | laga: | Alan66: *raises hand* |
| [20:18:00] | jd86: | 118% Completed ... bug? |
| [20:18:00] | laga: | jd86: nuvexport? |
| [20:19:00] | Alan66: | sorry.. i meant anyone here using dbox2 with a yadi image? |
| [20:19:00] | jd86: | laga: transcoding, i'm looking at the mythtv status page |
| [20:19:00] | laga: | oh, ok. |
| [20:19:00] | laga: | Alan66: *raises hand* |
| [20:20:00] | laga: | jd86: well, it can be normal, iirc |
| [20:20:00] | Alan66: | laga can you tell me the menus to get it to english? |
| [20:20:00] | jd86: | laga: well last time i heard there was only 100/100 pieces :) |
| [20:20:00] | jd86: | not 118/100 |
| [20:21:00] | jd86: | 142% now |
| [20:21:00] | jd86: | i'm out, i gotta get money, bring the dog to get groomed |
| [20:21:00] | laga: | Alan66: mine asked me to set the language when i started it for the first time |
| [20:24:00] | Beirdo: | LANG=profanity |
| [20:24:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [20:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | man, my poor database is getting hammered today |
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| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | I could think of worse things |
| [20:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | ~700k inserts on this poor little machine were painful. But it had to happen. Makes my gathering of rom data much easier :) |
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| [21:05:00] | jnunez: | GreyFoxx: Rom DB? |
| [21:05:00] | jnunez: | MythGame? |
| [21:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah, part of that project |
| [21:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | It will be used for that, plus I'll just leave up the online searchable database |
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| [21:07:00] | jnunez: | Cool. I still haven't worked with MythGame yet. I wanted to added that to the podcast but it was removed by the Producer because it's not a Tivo feature |
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| [21:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | I wanted a large, comprehensive datasource and I couldn't find any that fit what I wanted, so I basically took on the task of making one. |
| [21:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | lot of stuff left, but it's been interesting so far |
| [21:11:00] | Alan66: | I have a dbox2 bought off of the internet which had a sportster image, I have reflashed it with a yadi image but it is now asking me for ucodes (firmware) which I don't have ... any suggestions... |
| [21:12:00] | laga: | the only place to get the ucodes from is the original firmware – the ucodes are property of betanova |
| [21:14:00] | Alan66: | hmmm.... |
| [21:14:00] | Alan66: | so can I get them from betanova? |
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| [21:21:00] | goodtod: | why does the pvr-500 cost only $3 more than the pvr-250 if it has 2 tuners? |
| [21:21:00] | kormoc: | cause that's how the market works? |
| [21:21:00] | kahuna_: | The tuner itself probably costs hauppauge $3. |
| [21:22:00] | kahuna_: | or even less. |
| [21:22:00] | jd86: | UGH some thigns get drastically smaller with transcoding, others got fricking larger |
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| [21:22:00] | goodtod: | okay, what i'm asking is, is there any advantage to the pvr-250 besides saving $3? |
| [21:22:00] | kormoc: | it's slightly better supported, but likly not enough of a issue to worry bout |
| [21:23:00] | kormoc: | really, you should likly be looking at the difference between the 150/500 |
| [21:24:00] | kahuna_: | the drivers for the 150 and 500 are getting better every day. |
| [21:24:00] | kahuna_: | Isn't the mpeg2 processor a bit different? |
| [21:24:00] | jd86: | my 150 works very well |
| [21:24:00] | goodtod: | 150 is software encoder? |
| [21:24:00] | kahuna_: | Maybe that's why the price is so much different too |
| [21:24:00] | jd86: | goodtod: no mpeg2 .. |
| [21:24:00] | kormoc: | 150 if hardware mpeg2 |
| [21:25:00] | kormoc: | *is |
| [21:25:00] | jd86: | 150 is |
| [21:25:00] | jnunez: | 150 is hardware |
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| [21:25:00] | jd86: | i have one ;-) |
| [21:25:00] | jd86: | works well |
| [21:25:00] | jnunez: | Just ordered one. |
| [21:25:00] | jd86: | (or well it did, before i started using the svid input on the other thing and now it looks extremely shitty i dont know why tho) |
| [21:25:00] | kahuna_: | all of the *PVR line are hardware encoder right? |
| [21:25:00] | kormoc: | kahuna_, the 150/500's mpeg encoder is just as good as the 250/350 if not better. it's just cheaper to make |
| [21:25:00] | kormoc: | correct |
| [21:25:00] | kahuna_: | I have one installed but yet to get it up and runnign |
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| [21:25:00] | jd86: | i might buy a 500 |
| [21:26:00] | kahuna_: | I wish I could fit a 500 in my case. |
| [21:26:00] | ** kahuna_ silently weeps ** | |
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| [21:26:00] | jd86: | as for now.. i'm going to go work on another box to setup my crappy ati wonder ve card |
| [21:26:00] | goodtod: | what's the difference between the 250 and 150? |
| [21:26:00] | kormoc: | nothing really |
| [21:26:00] | kahuna_: | different hardware |
| [21:26:00] | jd86: | is the 250 older than the 150? |
| [21:26:00] | kahuna_: | and price |
| [21:26:00] | kahuna_: | yes |
| [21:26:00] | kormoc: | jd86, yes |
| [21:26:00] | jd86: | maybe thats why.. |
| [21:27:00] | kormoc: | the 150 is newer |
| [21:27:00] | jnunez: | While waiting for my 150 I decided to install KnoppMyth and it am getting 10 fps watching TV with my WinTV. Is this due to the HD? |
| [21:27:00] | goodtod: | and cheaper it looks like |
| [21:27:00] | jd86: | they made the 250, and then made a cheaper model taht did basically the same thing |
| [21:27:00] | kormoc: | they replaced a few chips on the 250 with a single chip on the 150, making it cheaper |
| [21:27:00] | jd86: | now |
| [21:27:00] | jd86: | back to my transcode problem |
| [21:27:00] | kormoc: | jnunez, it could be. or processor power, wintv is software based. |
| [21:27:00] | jnunez: | is P3 933MHz enough? |
| [21:28:00] | kormoc: | jnunez, iffy, it depends on what else is going on really. |
| [21:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | That would be on the bubble for a softwareencoding +_ playback at the same time |
| [21:28:00] | kahuna_: | 933 is not enough for wintv |
| [21:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | But there are a couple things to check |
| [21:28:00] | kormoc: | if you have a nvidia card, make sure XVMC is enabled. |
| [21:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | like ensuring that DMA is enabled on the drives |
| [21:28:00] | kahuna_: | Maybe for recording. *Maybe*, but livetv – no |
| [21:28:00] | laga: | |
| [21:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | kormoc: Xvmc wont help with software encoded recordings :) |
| [21:28:00] | laga: | |
| [21:29:00] | kormoc: | drat, I keep forgetting that it's mpeg2 only |
| [21:29:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: beat you to it again ;) |
| [21:29:00] | jnunez: | I figured it was livetv issue because I can use other TV apps to get better quality |
| [21:29:00] | goodtod: | is there any difference between 150 and 150mce for mythtv users? |
| [21:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Never! |
| [21:29:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: hehe |
| [21:29:00] | kahuna_: | I have a dual proc PIII 933 that cannot watch livetv with a wintv |
| [21:29:00] | jnunez: | I'll see if DMA helps |
| [21:29:00] | sphery: | laga: yeah, but GreyFoxx's was understandable ;) |
| [21:29:00] | kahuna_: | I get about 3 fps :) |
| [21:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | My PIII800 did it |
| [21:29:00] | kormoc: | kahuna_, you can get it working with the right settings. |
| [21:29:00] | kahuna_: | really... |
| [21:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | My 650 would stutter, but the 800 did it without any troubles |
| [21:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | but cpu was pegged at 97–100 |
| [21:30:00] | kahuna_: | what settings? |
| [21:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Can you be a little more vague ?:) |
| [21:30:00] | jnunez: | Im going to add a SATA and use it as a cache |
| [21:30:00] | kormoc: | making sure the harddrives are fast enough, and picking encoding settings that it can handle, it's really something you need to play with |
| [21:31:00] | laga: | sphery: hey, there was only one german word in it ;) |
| [21:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | jnunez: The 933 "should" be able to handle it. But that depends greatly on the software configuration, and of course if you have DMA to the drives or not. If no then no way |
| [21:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | And avoid cpu/memory wasters like KDE/GNOME |
| [21:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | use a lightweight window manager, icewm, ratbox, etc etc |
| [21:31:00] | jd86: | or no wm? |
| [21:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | no wm is just begging for focus problems |
| [21:32:00] | laga: | no wm is a bad idea... |
| [21:32:00] | laga: | darn, he was faster |
| [21:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | muahahah |
| [21:32:00] | ** laga bows ** | |
| [21:32:00] | kahuna_: | evilwm is pretty lightweight |
| [21:32:00] | jd86: | focus problems? |
| [21:32:00] | jd86: | because i'm not using a wm... |
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| [21:32:00] | jnunez: | Using the default KnoppMyth install. Will check DMA since I have had problems with it in the past Linux installs |
| [21:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | jd86: Where you have an app on the "top" but the keyboard/focus is on an underlying app. Or your app gets launched and shoved under the top window |
| [21:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you haven't run into it, consider yourself lucky so far :) |
| [21:33:00] | kormoc: | I wonder if you're using TWM without realizing it? |
| [21:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Good though, that could be |
| [21:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | thought |
| [21:35:00] | jd86: | nope... |
| [21:35:00] | jd86: | lol |
| [21:35:00] | jd86: | i dont know maybe.? |
| [21:35:00] | jd86: | but afaik all i know that starts is mythfrontend |
| [21:35:00] | jd86: | i have mythfrontend in ~/.xinitrc and when mythfrontend stops, so does X |
| [21:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | ok, no wm then |
| [21:35:00] | jnunez: | Good HDPARM Tutorial :: http://www.vmware.com/support/reference/linux/host_perf.html |
| [21:37:00] | kormoc: | wow that's old |
| [21:37:00] | jd86: | i'm so tempted to run to best buy and just grabbing another pvr |
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| [21:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | jd86: Heh |
| [21:38:00] | kormoc: | unmaskirq is usually good to set to 1, i/o support = 1 is usually good, multcount = 1 is usually good as well |
| [21:40:00] | goodtod: | does anybody have suggestions for a tv out card? |
| [21:41:00] | jnunez: | best buy in this area never has any good cards |
| [21:42:00] | jnunez: | goodtod: My dad's box is using a NVidia MX 440. Its mostly used as a Jukebox. |
| [21:43:00] | jnunez: | I have a NV 5200 with DVI and SVideo going out to a Sony HDTV set |
| [21:43:00] | goodtod: | will basically anything look good? will a nicer card make the picture much better? |
| [21:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | goodtod: it use to be luck of the draw, but these days they are pretty similar in quality (speaking about nvidia only) |
| [21:44:00] | jnunez: | A nice card will draw and decoder faster |
| [21:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use gfx440's on my frontends and they look great |
| [21:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | jnunez: you are not sending enough frames to the TV for that to be any sort of issue :) |
| [21:45:00] | jnunez: | I went with the 440 because they have the low profile versions |
| [21:45:00] | jnunez: | But does the NV cards decoder MPeg2? |
| [21:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | They do if it's not a really old card |
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| [21:46:00] | jnunez: | Yup. That is what I meant. Mostly for DVD decoding |
| [21:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | any card from basically late 2002 and up will do that |
| [21:47:00] | jnunez: | I did not know that. |
| [21:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Your 440 will do it :) |
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| [21:49:00] | goodtod: | how is this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814125191 |
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| [21:50:00] | jnunez: | Nice price but it doesn't have SVideo out. It's still a deal. |
| [21:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | That should do the trick unless you specifically want S-Video out which is not on that card. Though you can get Composite -> SVideo adapters |
| [21:51:00] | jnunez: | I love my 5200. I had a 6600 on my box but it's display at 720p was blurry when compared to the 5200 using the same OS and BOX |
| [21:52:00] | jnunez: | 6600 is now in my son's gaming pc. More like a box setup to collect spyware! LOL |
| [21:52:00] | Patang: | Is it possible to set up mythmusic with both artist-sort and tree-sort and switch between the 2 views? |
| [22:01:00] | jnunez: | Sorry Patang I don't know anything about mythmusic |
| [22:01:00] | sandos: | jnunez: arent those both supposed to have the newer nvidia tv-out? |
| [22:02:00] | kahuna_: | I solved my choppy video problem. It was due to a USB network adapter and ndiswrapper. |
| [22:02:00] | kahuna_: | weird problem becuase it didn't show up in proceccor usage. |
| [22:03:00] | kormoc: | kahuna_, kernel usage isn't normally reported by top |
| [22:03:00] | kahuna_: | yah. Is there a way to tell if somethings screwed with the kernel? |
| [22:03:00] | kahuna_: | but I'm happy that my video is silky smooth nonetheless |
| [22:04:00] | jnunez: | sandos: Not sure. But the two cards used the exact config |
| [22:04:00] | jnunez: | kahuna_: which vid card? And was it from a tuner or playback of a file? |
| [22:05:00] | kormoc: | kahuna_, I don't beleive so, unless the kernel chunk reports itself out like the ivtv module does, I don't think you can via top |
| [22:05:00] | kahuna_: | It was a skystar2 DVB card. |
| [22:05:00] | kormoc: | kahuna_, I'm sure there is a way to do it more developer oriented with profiling, but I don't know it |
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| [22:06:00] | kahuna_: | sucks cause it took me forever to figure it out. Everything else was good until I played video and that was the only thing that got messed up. |
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| [22:25:00] | mishehu: | hmm. I might have a semi-working irblaster now. |
| [22:25:00] | mishehu: | I got one with the visible light diode as well, so I can see if it's receiving any information at all. |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | step on it again, and make it non-working |
| [22:25:00] | mishehu: | err xmitting |
| [22:25:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: nah, once was enough. |
| [22:26:00] | mishehu: | odd thing is that my hp48g's ir cannot detect any codes from it when I try to capture with it. |
| [22:26:00] | mishehu: | am trying the DCT2000 config, as I have a motorola DCT1800, and that seems the closest model number to be listed. |
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| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | couldn't tell ya |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | I stepped on my HP48g |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | it would make the ideal remote, I'd think |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:30:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: whats with you and stepping on things? I'll never allow you in my office. |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | that was years ago |
| [22:31:00] | mishehu: | suuuuure |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | it was sitting on the floor beside my bed (1996) |
| [22:31:00] | mishehu: | I see the 49's lack the IR |
| [22:31:00] | mishehu: | I actually have a 49 here. |
| [22:31:00] | mishehu: | too. |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | and I got up and put my heel right on the screen |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | CRUNCH |
| [22:31:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: anyway, do you use an ir blaster? |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
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| [22:31:00] | ** _Nero_ has an ir blaster. ** | |
| [22:31:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: not on digital? |
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| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | I'm using analog cable |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | so much easier :) |
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| [22:33:00] | mishehu: | _Nero_: let me rehash to make sure I'm understanding things properly... I modprobe 8250, setserial /dev/to/serial uart none, modprobe lirc_serial... then I lircd /dev/to/serial /etc/lircd.conf, where I copied a file in the remotes tarball to /etc/lircd.conf. does that sound about right thus far? |
| [22:33:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: cumcast is pushing hard on all digital. |
| [22:33:00] | mishehu: | probably because they actually can limit what channels you get then. |
| [22:33:00] | _Nero_: | sounds about right so far.. |
| [22:34:00] | Beirdo: | I have other stupid cable companies to deal with here |
| [22:34:00] | mishehu: | _Nero_: good, at least I got that right so far. |
| [22:34:00] | _Nero_: | I went a little different- had no tarball for my remote, so I made my own. |
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| [22:34:00] | _Nero_: | though I dont think I ever had to modprobe 8250.. what is that? |
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| [22:35:00] | _Nero_: | I think my startup just does setserial, modprobe irc_serial, then lircd. |
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| [22:35:00] | _Nero_: | modprobe lirc_serial even |
| [22:35:00] | Beirdo: | oh good GOD |
| [22:35:00] | mishehu: | _Nero_: ok, was wondering since I didn't pick up anything from the irblaster with my 48g sampling ir. |
| [22:35:00] | _Nero_: | uh oh.. what did I do now? |
| [22:35:00] | Beirdo: | $100/month for 1.54mbps cable internet?! |
| [22:35:00] | Beirdo: | fuck |
| [22:36:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: bend over and get it in the rear? |
| [22:36:00] | _Nero_: | mishehu- how are you trying to send an ir signal? |
| [22:36:00] | Beirdo: | pretty much |
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| [22:36:00] | _Nero_: | and which circuit did you use for your blaster? |
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| [22:37:00] | mishehu: | _Nero_: looping on this: /usr/local/bin/irsend SEND_ONCE DCT2000 2 |
| [22:37:00] | mishehu: | I do see the visible led light up when it xmits (once a sec) |
| [22:37:00] | _Nero_: | and there is no error? |
| [22:37:00] | _Nero_: | is it one of the circuits at lirc.org? |
| [22:37:00] | mishehu: | I'm trying now to pick up a signal on my sblive audigy 2zs |
| [22:38:00] | mishehu: | _Nero_: irblaster.info |
| [22:38:00] | _Nero_: | ahhh.. ok |
| [22:39:00] | _Nero_: | I think that is the simple circuit which is good.. |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | gah |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | I want Canadian internet providers in PR |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | what a ripoff |
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| [22:39:00] | _Nero_: | mishehu- did you look in your lircd.conf? |
| [22:40:00] | _Nero_: | are you sure you have an entry for DCT2000 key 2? |
| [22:40:00] | _Nero_: | (though since you are seeing a blinking light, I would suspect you do) |
| [22:40:00] | mishehu: | _Nero_: I'd be damn surprised if there wasn't. |
| [22:40:00] | laga: | Beirdo: you gonna move there? |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | I hope to |
| [22:40:00] | laga: | Beirdo: awesome :) |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | and I plan to |
| [22:41:00] | mishehu: | 2 0x000000000000BFF8 |
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| [22:41:00] | _Nero_: | so the light blinks, but no signal received.. humm.. |
| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | guh |
| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | so I can get 1024kbit/512kbit DSL for $84.95US/month?! |
| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | f'huck |
| [22:42:00] | laga: | hey. i can live with 1024/128 ;) |
| [22:42:00] | _Nero_: | not sure mishehu- since you are getting a blinking light, you should be transmitting a signal.. |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | I get 3mbit/800kbit with a static IP now for $65CDN |
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| [22:44:00] | kahuna_: | Hi. |
| [22:44:00] | kormoc: | sadly I get 6mbit/128kbit for $45/month |
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| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | not too bad |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | heya, xris |
| [22:45:00] | ** laga could get 8mbit/800kbit for EUR50 ** | |
| [22:45:00] | kormoc: | I wish it was a tad more even, say 5mbit/1mbit |
| [22:45:00] | laga: | but i'm too lazy to call the cable company ;) |
| [22:45:00] | xris: | heya |
| [22:45:00] | laga: | hi xris |
| [22:45:00] | ** xris is running ubuntu now ** | |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | good choice :) |
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| [22:46:00] | xris: | anyone know what package "play" is in? |
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| [22:47:00] | kahuna_: | sox |
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| [22:47:00] | kahuna_: | man play. |
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| [22:47:00] | xris: | kahuna_: I don't *have* it.. no man |
| [22:48:00] | kahuna_: | lol. |
| [22:48:00] | kahuna_: | my bad. |
| [22:48:00] | kahuna_: | I assume too much... |
| [22:48:00] | xris: | ok, that works now. |
| [22:48:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [22:49:00] | ** laga tries to optimize boot time by deleting stuff in /etc/init.d ** | |
| [22:49:00] | kahuna_: | If I map a button using irexec and also have that button mapped elsewhere, say in mplayer, which one will lircd register as a button proess? |
| [22:49:00] | ** Beirdo watches laga fux0r his machine ** | |
| [22:49:00] | kahuna_: | lol |
| [22:50:00] | laga: | Beirdo: hehe. it's netboot anyways, i could just copy the master /etc/init.d directory over ;) |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [22:50:00] | rsdvd: | hiya all.....I am trying to get MiniMyth going on a brand new EPIA M10k using PXE......is there anyone around who cold get me a hand....please? |
| [22:50:00] | laga: | 1m15s is too long for a frontend |
| [22:50:00] | laga: | rsdvd: i've played a bit with pxe and stuff. what's the problem? |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | hmmmmm |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | wonder if adelphia actually serves the neighborhood we are buying in |
| [22:51:00] | rsdvd: | I am not sure where to start with MiniMyth........I have a DHCP servre working and tftp ..... but I am not suer about the MiniMyth stuff |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | or if we are stuck with liberty |
| [22:51:00] | kahuna_: | you could always go with dialup. |
| [22:51:00] | laga: | rsdvd: well. do you want to know how i do it? |
| [22:51:00] | kahuna_: | or not. |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | the hell with dialup |
| [22:52:00] | rsdvd: | Iaga......yes please |
| [22:52:00] | kahuna_: | but net zero is 5x faster! |
| [22:52:00] | smoke_: | where can i find my audio input/ouput at? .. |
| [22:52:00] | smoke_: | i know /dev/dsp is my output .. but NAS needs an input and output :/ |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | the hell with dialup |
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| [22:52:00] | kahuna_: | such a scam... |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | I don't do dialup if I can help it |
| [22:53:00] | laga: | rsdvd: i let me pxe client load pxelinux over the network. pxelinux acts as a bootloader and loads the kernel. |
| [22:53:00] | laga: | rsdvd: is minimyth prepared for netboot? |
| [22:53:00] | kahuna_: | I haven't done dialup in a couple of years |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | wonder if speakeasy covers PR :) |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:53:00] | rsdvd: | I was advised on this channel it was ....... It was recommended as the best thing to use on a EPIA M10k without a HDD |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | they want a street address?! |
| [22:54:00] | Beirdo: | buggers |
| [22:54:00] | smoke_: | Beirdo, you know anything about why a program guide wouldn't pop up in mythtv (yeah i ran mythfilldatabase) |
| [22:54:00] | Beirdo: | not off hand |
| [22:54:00] | smoke_: | k |
| [22:54:00] | Beirdo: | did you restart your backend after setting up the channels? |
| [22:54:00] | smoke_: | Beirdo, yeah |
| [22:54:00] | kahuna_: | should still pop up, though right? Even with no data in it/ |
| [22:54:00] | smoke_: | no it pops up |
| [22:54:00] | trans_err: | mythtv gives me bad artifacting/ghosting and won't chage channels-- any ideas? |
| [22:54:00] | smoke_: | but its jsut the background image. |
| [22:54:00] | Beirdo: | dunno off hand |
| [22:54:00] | smoke_: | k thanks |
| [22:55:00] | kahuna_: | trans_err: what kind of card? |
| [22:55:00] | trans_err: | kahuna_: happuage wintv cx88 based |
| [22:55:00] | laga: | rsdvd: umm, ok. take a look at /usr/src/linux/Documentation/nfsroot.txt and see if the kernel options mentioned there are built into the minimyth kernel |
| [22:55:00] | kahuna_: | trans_err: what kind of processing power? |
| [22:55:00] | trans_err: | kahuna_: everything works fine in tvtime, xawtv, etc.. but not in myth |
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| [22:56:00] | trans_err: | kahuna_: athlon 1900xp |
| [22:56:00] | trans_err: | kahuna_: 764mb ram |
| [22:56:00] | kahuna_: | should be good enough. do you have Xv? |
| [22:56:00] | laga: | rsdvd: oh, i see that nfsroot.txt is kind of incomplete. "ip autoconfiguration" or how it is called should be enabled, and you need the module for your NIC built into the kernel. |
| [22:56:00] | trans_err: | kahuna_: i should-- is there a way to specifically check |
| [22:57:00] | kahuna_: | xvinfo |
| [22:57:00] | laga: | rsdvd: i honestly know nothing about minimyth – they could as well use an initrd, you wouldn't have to have support for this in the kernel then. |
| [22:57:00] | rsdvd: | Laga.......thanks for the help......I am still a bit confused.......I think I need to go and find some more docs to read. |
| [22:57:00] | trans_err: | kahuna_: yup |
| [22:57:00] | ** Beirdo makes a rude farting noise ** | |
| [22:58:00] | laga: | rsdvd: that's what i did. it took my some time to get the concept. if you have any questions left after reading, feel free to ask me |
| [22:58:00] | kahuna_: | gross. |
| [22:58:00] | Beirdo: | stupid cable companies |
| [22:58:00] | rsdvd: | thanks! |
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| [23:14:00] | skiingsean: | can some1 tell me what the difference between myth and freevo is? |
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| [23:14:00] | feld: | hey guys i'm SOOO close to having my mythtv configured |
| [23:15:00] | laga: | skiingsean: there's been a thread on the ML recently, search at www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ |
| [23:15:00] | skiingsean: | thanks :) |
| [23:15:00] | feld: | i'm trying to run the mythfilldatabase but i'm getting mysql errors? |
| [23:15:00] | laga: | feld: mysql 5? |
| [23:15:00] | feld: | no |
| [23:15:00] | feld: | 4.11 maybe? |
| [23:15:00] | feld: | one sec... |
| [23:15:00] | Beirdo: | what would the errors be, we may be able to help better if we knew which error :) |
| [23:16:00] | feld: | 4.1.15 |
| [23:16:00] | feld: | You have an error in your SQL syntax |
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| [23:16:00] | feld: | uhm one sec |
| [23:17:00] | feld: | here comes 7 lines — sorry for the spam! |
| [23:17:00] | feld: | DB Error (Inserting into programgenres table): |
| [23:17:00] | feld: | Query was: |
| [23:17:00] | feld: | INSERT IGNORE INTO programgenres (chanid, starttime, relevance, genre) SELECT anid, starttime, relevance, class FROM dd_v_program, dd_genre WHERE (dd_v_prog m.programid = dd_genre.programid); |
| [23:17:00] | feld: | Driver error was [2/1146]: |
| [23:17:00] | feld: | QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query |
| [23:17:00] | feld: | Database error was: |
| [23:17:00] | feld: | Table 'mythconverg.dd_v_program' doesn't exist |
| [23:17:00] | Beirdo: | hmm. |
| [23:18:00] | skiingsean: | well i guess since freevo wants a Dep that is obsolete in FC4, no one wants to help in their channel or let alone talk to me, im going to go with Myth unless some1 here knows of any major issue with it and FC4 |
| [23:18:00] | laga: | skiingsean: www.wilsonet.com |
| [23:18:00] | skiingsean: | ok thnx.. reading now |
| [23:19:00] | feld: | wait guys i think i know |
| [23:20:00] | feld: | its a user/pass to the mysql problem |
| [23:20:00] | feld: | uhm but what do i do about it |
| [23:21:00] | feld: | can i add mythtv to the mysql group to solve this? |
| [23:22:00] | feld: | hostname is localhost, database is mythconverg, user is mythtv and password is mythtv — this is incorrect, isnt it? or do i have to configure a mythtv user for mysql? |
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| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | might be you will need to create a mythtv user within mysql if you haven't already. |
| [23:25:00] | Beirdo: | there is a script (mc.sql) that comes with mythtv that should do it for you if I remember right |
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| [23:25:00] | Beirdo: | and I should probably head home. |
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| [23:37:00] | xris: | ok, looks like I'm back up and running agin |
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| [23:45:00] | rsdvd: | Laga : are you still around? |
| [23:45:00] | laga: | yessir! |
| [23:46:00] | rsdvd: | :-) quick question about PXE.....where should the bzImage file be put? |
| [23:46:00] | laga: | i put mine into /tftpboot/ |
| [23:47:00] | rsdvd: | I did that to....but when I bootthe EPIA it starts the PXE and then says can;t find bzImage |
| [23:47:00] | laga: | can you show me you pxelinux.cfg/default (or whatever your config file is called)? |
| [23:48:00] | rsdvd: | taken directly from the linpvr.org website : |
| [23:48:00] | rsdvd: | PROMPT 1 |
| [23:48:00] | rsdvd: | DEFAULT linux-ramdisk |
| [23:48:00] | rsdvd: | DISPLAY messages |
| [23:48:00] | rsdvd: | TIMEOUT 5 |
| [23:48:00] | rsdvd: | label linux-ramdisk |
| [23:48:00] | rsdvd: | |
| [23:48:00] | rsdvd: | KERNEL bzImage |
| [23:48:00] | rsdvd: | APPEND initrd=rootfs-0.5.1 ramdisk_blocksize=4096 ramdisk=34000 LIRC=haup-hb2 MYTHSERVER=192.168.1.101 TIMESERVER=130.88.200.6 TV=PAL |
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| [23:50:00] | laga: | that should work fine. check your /etc/inetd.conf for the path where your tftpd is looking |
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| [23:52:00] | rsdvd: | according to xinetd the root is /tftpboot |
| [23:52:00] | laga: | that's how it works on mine |
| [23:52:00] | rsdvd: | I have another machines (MediaMVP) which boots fine from this tftpd |
| [23:52:00] | laga: | are you sure that the tftpd can read the bzImage? permission-wise? |
| [23:53:00] | rsdvd: | I have set it to 777 |
| [23:53:00] | laga: | should be sufficient. not the best thing security-wise, but it should work. |
| [23:54:00] | laga: | just to clarify: pxelinux gets loaded? |
| [23:54:00] | rsdvd: | I only did it for testing |
| [23:55:00] | rsdvd: | seems to.......I have messages that look like it is doing something....and it is only pxelinux configs that name bzImage |
| [23:55:00] | laga: | ok |
| [23:55:00] | laga: | yes, i see. |
| [23:55:00] | rsdvd: | I have tried a tftp from the command line and I can 'GET' the file |
| [23:56:00] | laga: | that's odd. it should work then! |
| [23:57:00] | rsdvd: | Thats what I thought |
| [23:57:00] | laga: | maybe you could sniff the network traffic to see what's going wrong? |
| [23:58:00] | rsdvd: | not suer how to do that |
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| [23:58:00] | laga: | probably with ethereal, but i'm not sure if it works on this kind of traffic. |
| [23:58:00] | laga: | does pxelinux get an IP address? |
| [23:58:00] | rsdvd: | it is set to be fixed in the dhcpd.conf |
| [23:59:00] | laga: | yes, but does pxelinux receive one? IIRC, it sends a new dhcp request |
| [23:59:00] | laga: | brb |
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