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| [00:00:00] | laga: | purplefrog: i actually vacuumed my room one week ago. |
| [00:00:00] | xris: | mchou: depends on what they have... costco has a nice warranty. :) |
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| [00:00:00] | Dark`-`: | i have to vaccuum... crazy stuff happens in here. |
| [00:00:00] | mchou: | xris: costco vacuums a pricey |
| [00:00:00] | mchou: | are* |
| [00:00:00] | xris: | mchou: but they're good ones. |
| [00:00:00] | Dark`-`: | get the one with the german guy that says it never loses suction |
| [00:01:00] | purplefrog: | Dyson? |
| [00:01:00] | xris: | Dark`-`: dyson? he's british |
| [00:01:00] | Dark`-`: | whatever he is |
| [00:01:00] | Dark`-`: | yea |
| [00:01:00] | xris: | wish I could justify a $400 vacuum |
| [00:01:00] | purplefrog: | To an American, all accents are "foreign". |
| [00:01:00] | laga: | yeah, blame it on me, right. |
| [00:01:00] | Dark`-`: | haha |
| [00:01:00] | xris: | I already spent that much on a kitchen mixer. |
| [00:01:00] | Dark`-`: | justify that it will let you vaccuum more rooms because it never loses suction ;) |
| [00:01:00] | purplefrog: | kitchen mixers are for people who cook food from ingredients. |
| [00:01:00] | Dark`-`: | lol |
| [00:02:00] | laga: | purplefrog: i cook via phone. |
| [00:02:00] | Dark`-`: | yea, put 2 tv dinners together in a mixer |
| [00:02:00] | Dark`-`: | and you got a 6 course meal |
| [00:02:00] | Hoxzer: | my real life fantasy |
| [00:02:00] | laga: | "yeah luigi, one with everything" |
| [00:02:00] | Hoxzer: | to sleep I go |
| [00:02:00] | Hoxzer: | maybe |
| [00:02:00] | Hoxzer: | I CAN't |
| [00:02:00] | Hoxzer: | I'm addicted |
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| [00:02:00] | xris: | Dark`-`: actually, reviews indicate that it's pretty good... but cheaper ones are just as good |
| [00:03:00] | Hoxzer: | Laga: where do you live? |
| [00:03:00] | mchou: | xris: whatever you do, dont get a eureka |
| [00:03:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: germany. |
| [00:03:00] | xris: | oh? |
| [00:03:00] | Hoxzer: | germany :E |
| [00:03:00] | mchou: | xris: yeah, they suck |
| [00:03:00] | purplefrog: | I'm beginning to think that Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo is too stupid, even for me. |
| [00:03:00] | xris: | mchou: that's what vacuums are supposed to do. |
| [00:03:00] | mchou: | I'm out for a bike ride.... |
| [00:03:00] | Hoxzer: | they broadcast porn every evening in cable tv? |
| [00:03:00] | mchou: | xris: lol, that's not what I meant |
| [00:04:00] | xris: | my current one is a eureka. worked well for 4 years. probably just needs a better hepa filter, but it's too small for my house. |
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| [00:06:00] | laga: | good he's gone |
| [00:07:00] | xris: | heh |
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| [00:07:00] | laga: | bye |
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| [00:13:00] | simon_c_home: | Hi All. Still getting to grips with actually using myth now I've got it working. Am I right in thinking that if you queue a job up for transcoding, it will end up taking alot less space ? |
| [00:14:00] | purplefrog: | Usually. I think theoretically you could configure your bit rates such that a transcoded video would take up more space, but that's silly. |
| [00:16:00] | simon_c_home: | Ahhh. So the format it stors things in as it's recording can be seen as just temporary. |
| [00:16:00] | purplefrog: | si. |
| [00:16:00] | simon_c_home: | thanks. |
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| [00:21:00] | pookSter: | /msg nickserv set unfiltered on |
| [00:22:00] | simon_c_home: | *now* I understand how come I could watch some shows replaying over 802.11b, and others just dropped out. I gues the ones I'd transcoded were ok and the others weren't. |
| [00:25:00] | purplefrog: | likely. |
| [00:28:00] | ** _Nero_ waves.. hello.. ** | |
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| [00:31:00] | simon_c_home: | Does anyone know the "best" setting for comercial flagging in the UK ? (terestrial and sky) |
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| [00:32:00] | rep2: | how can I display more than one line of program info on the OSD when i change channel? |
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| [00:39:00] | FunkyELF: | r2, are you there? |
| [00:39:00] | FunkyELF: | r2, I was wondering what guide you were following for the firewire stuff |
| [00:39:00] | FunkyELF: | anyone here got firewire working with MythTV? |
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| [01:20:00] | ShockValue: | is it possible to run mythfrontend somehow in windows? |
| [01:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can |
| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | t currently run the app natively under windows unless you look into trying to compile it under cygwin |
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| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | but getting the menu/X display on awindows box isn't difficult |
| [01:22:00] | ShockValue: | i just want to be able to connect to my backend box to update video's |
| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | but if you want to use it for playback it's not really an option |
| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | The imdb info you mean ? |
| [01:23:00] | ShockValue: | yeah, the main mythbox doesnt have a keyboard, so i update the imdb info remotely |
| [01:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use a windows based X server for that , just export my display to the box I'm on |
| [01:23:00] | ShockValue: | thats all i really want to do, i dont care about watching shows or anything on this box |
| [01:23:00] | ShockValue: | Is this WinMyth any good? |
| [01:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | No clue |
| [01:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | and that's playback of recordings/livetv only |
| [01:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | I looked at it once when it first came out for like 5 minutes |
| [01:24:00] | Juski: | ShockValue: I tried the latest release a while back... it didn't work one bit |
| [01:24:00] | ShockValue: | yeah, it doesnt look like it will do what i need.. only TV show stuff |
| [01:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | man headaches suck |
| [01:25:00] | dougl: | can anyone suggest config help... trying to setup 110 and 119 on diseqc sw |
| [01:25:00] | ** GreyFoxx goes for a nap ** | |
| [01:25:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, I'm back, let me read for a second ... |
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| [01:25:00] | ShockValue: | GreyFoxx: where can i look into finding out how to get the X display on my windows machine? |
| [01:26:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, I've been following a specific threat from gossamer threads that discusses it ... it doesn't solve it for me, but it's an 85% solution |
| [01:26:00] | simon_c_home: | ShockValue: You should be able to VNC into your X box. |
| [01:26:00] | r2: | s/threat/thread/ |
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| [01:27:00] | r2: | (it's only a threat if it's counter to my world-domination scheme) |
| [01:27:00] | ** r2 contemplates using his inner voice more ... ** | |
| [01:27:00] | FunkyELF: | I have tried the test-mpeg2, but it complains about an avisynth.dll |
| [01:27:00] | FunkyELF: | ...when I go to play it |
| [01:28:00] | ShockValue: | alternatively, is there some way to update the IMDB info of a video file on a remote myth box? |
| [01:29:00] | ShockValue: | thats the only reason I need to be able to connect to it |
| [01:29:00] | simon_c_home: | ShockValue: You should be able to remote control your linux box from your windows box |
| [01:29:00] | simon_c_home: | ShockValue: What distro do you run ? |
| [01:29:00] | ShockValue: | simon_c_home: but wouldnt that interrupt the box if someone was using it? |
| [01:29:00] | simon_c_home: | ShockValue: true. |
| [01:30:00] | Juski: | not necessarily |
| [01:30:00] | Juski: | you could open another xsession via vnc and run an instance of mythfrontend on that :) |
| [01:30:00] | simon_c_home: | ShockValue: to get X on the windows box, you can install cygwin. |
| [01:30:00] | Juski: | or install vncserver |
| [01:31:00] | ShockValue: | Juski: that would allow me to remote the box without interupting hte person usin the machine? |
| [01:31:00] | Juski: | yep |
| [01:31:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, are you running mythfrontend on windows? |
| [01:31:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, (or backend, for that matter ...) |
| [01:32:00] | FunkyELF: | i didn't know you can run that on windows |
| [01:32:00] | Juski: | I can vnc into my backend, when it's running mythfrontend.. onto a different desktop.. then run mythfrontend.. all without interfering with the main frontend (the one on the monitor) |
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| [01:32:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, didn't either, but avisynth.dll leads me to think windows ... or is that included in win32codecs? don't know, not using them on amd64 |
| [01:33:00] | ShockValue: | Juski: hmm, cool. |
| [01:34:00] | FunkyELF: | that is just wayt it says when I try to use mplayer to play the file created with test-mpeg2 |
| [01:34:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, what libraries are mplayer and test-mpeg2 linked against? ("ldd /usr/bin/mplayer" ...) |
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| [01:35:00] | FunkyELF: | r2, I compiled it with win32codecs support |
| [01:36:00] | FunkyELF: | r2, it lists a lot of things |
| [01:38:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, the win32codecs thing is what I don't know much about ... it's not an option in 64-bit, I guess, since it doesn't do anything for me |
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| [01:38:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, have you confirmed that avisynth.dll is in the same place as the other win32codecs? |
| [01:40:00] | FunkyELF: | r2, I actually have avisynth installed on another windows machine on my network...I copied that file to where it expected it |
| [01:40:00] | FunkyELF: | then another file that it yelled about...I kept copying them over there untill I got some other error about mp3 |
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| [01:41:00] | FunkyELF: | so I removed win32codecs from make.conf and now I am re-emerging it |
| [01:41:00] | FunkyELF: | did you ever get your file to show up with mplayer? |
| [01:42:00] | FunkyELF: | I wonder if that means that the file is corrupt and is confusing mplayer |
| [01:42:00] | FunkyELF: | I don't see why it would have encoded it with some windows crap |
| [01:44:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, not sure, I am really behind the power curve on the codecs issue |
| [01:45:00] | r2: | how much of an issue is it to not have the win32codecs compiled into myth? |
| [01:45:00] | r2: | (other than when copying files over to myth from other systems) |
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| [01:52:00] | simon_c_home: | Hi, On what box does the comertial flagging take place, the back end that recorded it, or the front end that started the job ? And, what settings are used ? The settings of the front end that started the job, or the settings of the front end on the box that recorded it, or do they both end up being the same ? |
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| [01:54:00] | Juski: | commflagging can take place on any backend.. that's my understanding of it |
| [01:55:00] | Juski: | probably putting my foot in it again, but I don't think the frontend machines have anything to do with flagging or transcoding |
| [01:55:00] | simon_c_home: | Juski: On a backend. OK . |
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| [01:57:00] | simon_c_home: | And, once you've transcoded, can you nolonger edit the recording ? |
| [01:58:00] | simon_c_home: | I seem to have a recording I can't edit, and is very slow to move forward/backwards through. Not sure if that's cos it's been transcoded. |
| [01:58:00] | Juski: | I've never tried it.. I can't play back transcoded files at normal speed on my frontend |
| [01:58:00] | Juski: | (but time-compression & stretching transcoded shows works :/ ) |
| [01:59:00] | simon_c_home: | humm. |
| [01:59:00] | Juski: | simon_c_home: try running commflag on the recorded show to see if that helps |
| [02:00:00] | simon_c_home: | There's no commertials init, it's a film. I just wanted to chop off the last 10 mins or so, cos the film is finished by then. |
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| [02:00:00] | sgorilla: | lo |
| [02:00:00] | sgorilla: | anyone familair with the nexus-b card? |
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| [02:01:00] | simon_c_home: | It seems (to me) that there's not an "overview" document from an end user perspective. i.e walking you through what you would do to a recording. |
| [02:01:00] | Juski: | simon_c_home: running commflag on it should re-build the playback markings so seeking might be more easy |
| [02:01:00] | sgorilla: | i want to be able to capture 1080i ATSC compressed video |
| [02:01:00] | sgorilla: | and distribute it to mythtv frontends |
| [02:01:00] | simon_c_home: | Juski: I'll try then |
| [02:01:00] | sgorilla: | which will decode the ASTC stream, over a gigabit ip network |
| [02:02:00] | sgorilla: | i think the pcHDTV and nexus-b can do this |
| [02:02:00] | sgorilla: | but i am not sure how you can save the input coming in |
| [02:03:00] | Juski: | sgorilla – you can only distribute live captured video to one frontend at a time |
| [02:03:00] | Juski: | per tuner |
| [02:03:00] | Juski: | if you're thinking 'multicasting', mythtv doesn't do that |
| [02:03:00] | simon_c_home: | sgorilla: videolan probaby would |
| [02:03:00] | Juski: | well.. at least not without other software |
| [02:04:00] | simon_c_home: | sgorilla: www.videolan.org iirc |
| [02:04:00] | sgorilla: | simon_c_home: it has pluigins for ATSC? |
| [02:04:00] | Juski: | it does DVB.. don't know about ATSC though |
| [02:04:00] | sgorilla: | ah ok |
| [02:04:00] | sgorilla: | what type of file format would dvb be saved in? |
| [02:05:00] | Juski: | mpegts |
| [02:05:00] | sgorilla: | something simililiar to mpeg2 with some extra headers? |
| [02:05:00] | sgorilla: | ok |
| [02:05:00] | simon_c_home: | sgorilla: I've only looked at the windows version, but the site sais it would capture anything that worked in v4l |
| [02:05:00] | sgorilla: | cool |
| [02:05:00] | sgorilla: | im not looking into multicasting |
| [02:06:00] | sgorilla: | just being able to do recording and transmission of dvb signals |
| [02:06:00] | sgorilla: | from one mythtv box, and the transmission would be to a frontend |
| [02:06:00] | sgorilla: | i am wondering how much bandwidth you need for 1080i mpegts stream |
| [02:07:00] | Juski: | of course you could always just record a stream.. then any frontend could play it back on demand.. leaving the tuner free to do more recording or show livetv on one of the frontends |
| [02:07:00] | Juski: | 1080i.. it's only about 30mbit/sec isn't it? |
| [02:07:00] | Juski: | hah.. I say 'only' |
| [02:07:00] | sgorilla: | that is compressed right? |
| [02:08:00] | sgorilla: | i think uncompressed its like 100 MB/s |
| [02:08:00] | sgorilla: | more than Gigabit ethernet can handle |
| [02:08:00] | Juski: | it comes in compressed |
| [02:08:00] | Juski: | otherwise they'd only be able to broadcast like 2 channels |
| [02:08:00] | sgorilla: | true |
| [02:08:00] | sgorilla: | i just wonder what type of hardware you need to uncompress it |
| [02:09:00] | sgorilla: | the server box will be really fast |
| [02:09:00] | sgorilla: | like have raid drives, fast processor |
| [02:09:00] | Juski: | server speed is immaterial compared to the decoding end |
| [02:09:00] | sgorilla: | for the frontend box, just want it minimum to play one channel |
| [02:09:00] | sgorilla: | yeah, what does it take to decode 1080i going over tcp/ip stream |
| [02:10:00] | Juski: | minimum of one channel? you're lucky if you can get 3Ghz and a nvidia 6600 to decode it, judging by some of the reports I've seen |
| [02:10:00] | sgorilla: | how does mythtv frontend distribute the video, using udp packets? |
| [02:10:00] | sgorilla: | thats just for 1, hdtv signal? |
| [02:10:00] | Juski: | yep.. just for 1 |
| [02:10:00] | sgorilla: | damn |
| [02:11:00] | sgorilla: | there has to be some cards which offset some of the decoding in the pci |
| [02:11:00] | Juski: | it eats up cycles like no tomorrow |
| [02:11:00] | sgorilla: | in order to show it |
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| [02:11:00] | sgorilla: | i know there are hdtv capture cards |
| [02:11:00] | Juski: | yeh... xvmc in nvidia cards can help |
| [02:11:00] | Juski: | recording over the air hdtv takes very little cpu power |
| [02:12:00] | Juski: | but oh boy.. playing it back.. |
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| [02:12:00] | Juski: | I've read some stuff recently about someone hacking a hd network playback device & working on putting a mythtv frontend client on it |
| [02:13:00] | Juski: | can't remember the name of it but there are posts about it on the mailing list |
| [02:16:00] | Juski: | here ya go: http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php |
| [02:17:00] | Juski: | looks nifty.. and if I know the community it may just be a matter of time before someone gets a rudimentary myth frontend ported to it |
| [02:18:00] | Juski: | oops.. spoke too soon! http://mythroku.blogspot.com/ |
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| [02:22:00] | Juski: | seen as I'm here.. are there any users of minimyth in here? |
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| [02:25:00] | sgorilla: | is that thing run linux? |
| [02:25:00] | sgorilla: | oh shit |
| [02:25:00] | sgorilla: | that is awesome |
| [02:25:00] | Juski: | if it does what it says on the tin... :D |
| [02:26:00] | Juski: | course it's running linux... a lot of new CE devices are |
| [02:26:00] | sgorilla: | mpeg ts and ps formats |
| [02:26:00] | sgorilla: | what is sd television? |
| [02:26:00] | sgorilla: | who uses that? |
| [02:27:00] | Juski: | standard def. |
| [02:27:00] | sgorilla: | 299.00 is not a bad price |
| [02:27:00] | Juski: | we luddites in the UK.. that's who still uses SDTV.. like we have any choice |
| [02:27:00] | sgorilla: | your going to spend about that much building a frontend anyway |
| [02:27:00] | Juski: | lol.. and the rest! |
| [02:28:00] | Juski: | that little box has a lot going for it |
| [02:28:00] | Juski: | low power consumption... quiet... looks nice.... |
| [02:28:00] | sgorilla: | it does not support mpeg4, that is the only problem |
| [02:28:00] | sgorilla: | i wonder if there is a way to downconvert mpeg4 to mpeg2 |
| [02:28:00] | Juski: | yep |
| [02:28:00] | sgorilla: | like you wanted to play some Xvid movie to that thing |
| [02:28:00] | sgorilla: | be able to do it fast also |
| [02:29:00] | Juski: | www.videolan.org |
| [02:29:00] | sgorilla: | would it cause problems with the downconversion? |
| [02:29:00] | sgorilla: | i think mpeg4 to mpeg2 is not a problem |
| [02:29:00] | Juski: | I dunno.. encoding mpeg2 on the fly in software... shouldn't be an issue with modern CPUs |
| [02:29:00] | sgorilla: | true true |
| [02:29:00] | sgorilla: | that sounds like a good solution then |
| [02:30:00] | sgorilla: | you can use 100 mbit ports for the set top boxes |
| [02:30:00] | Juski: | shove em into a gigabit switch... into your server's gigabit lan |
| [02:30:00] | sgorilla: | you the switch would be gigabit |
| [02:30:00] | sgorilla: | but i dont think the roku supports gigabit |
| [02:31:00] | sgorilla: | you would want a gigabit switch to be to handle at lot of those coming out of the server |
| [02:31:00] | sgorilla: | should be able to handle about 5 settop boxes off one switch |
| [02:31:00] | Juski: | yeah but consider how many set tops would be used at once |
| [02:32:00] | sgorilla: | true |
| [02:32:00] | sgorilla: | i think 5 setup boxes max used at once, would be all you can support |
| [02:32:00] | sgorilla: | if you have more, you need a 10 GB switch |
| [02:32:00] | sgorilla: | like have more than a terabit per second backplane |
| [02:32:00] | Juski: | 5 HD set top boxes in one house...that'd be some setup |
| [02:32:00] | Juski: | you'd probably need a managed switch then |
| [02:32:00] | sgorilla: | yeah to do QoS also |
| [02:33:00] | sgorilla: | if you running phones are other stuff on it |
| [02:33:00] | sgorilla: | 5 HD is not bad for one house |
| [02:33:00] | Juski: | ambitious to say the least! |
| [02:33:00] | Juski: | you could always have more than one backend machine |
| [02:33:00] | sgorilla: | true |
| [02:33:00] | sgorilla: | have a SAN fabric |
| [02:34:00] | sgorilla: | that hooks up to a terabyte raid array |
| [02:34:00] | Juski: | I think a typical OTA HDTV stream is only more like 15mbits/sec |
| [02:34:00] | sgorilla: | with gigabit cards in each one handling each gigabit switch |
| [02:34:00] | sgorilla: | i thats what i was reading |
| [02:34:00] | sgorilla: | 16 mbit/sec |
| [02:35:00] | sgorilla: | is it 16mbit or 16Mbyte? |
| [02:35:00] | Juski: | bits |
| [02:35:00] | Juski: | 16Mb |
| [02:35:00] | Juski: | not 16MB |
| [02:35:00] | sgorilla: | ok |
| [02:35:00] | sgorilla: | functioniality for watching live tv is still in progress for the box |
| [02:36:00] | Juski: | 16MB is more like a broadcast format I think – the kind they use internally |
| [02:36:00] | sgorilla: | well nm it seems like its updated |
| [02:36:00] | sgorilla: | what is broadcast format? |
| [02:36:00] | sgorilla: | i though the 100MB was the uncompressed broadcast format they use internally |
| [02:36:00] | Juski: | I mean the kind the broadcasters record their stuff in |
| [02:37:00] | Juski: | could be wrong.. could be talking out of my hat there |
| [02:37:00] | Juski: | anyway 16Mbits/sec is the kinda rate you'd be talking about for OTA |
| [02:37:00] | sgorilla: | i think 100MBs for 1080i uncompressed |
| [02:38:00] | Juski: | ahh right |
| [02:38:00] | sgorilla: | how fast is a cable network? |
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| [02:38:00] | Juski: | hmmm |
| [02:38:00] | sgorilla: | how do they get 16Mbit streams to you |
| [02:39:00] | sgorilla: | i guess its shared bandwidth |
| [02:39:00] | sgorilla: | you know how much bandwidth you normally get from cable? |
| [02:39:00] | Juski: | well here in the UK we've got 200–1.2GHz, with 64mbit transponders.. usually up to 6 or 7 TV channels per transponder |
| [02:39:00] | sgorilla: | also when you use a set top box to you request that data, then it switches over |
| [02:40:00] | sgorilla: | ok so its in Ghz for the bandwidth |
| [02:40:00] | Juski: | that's easy when it's relatively short runs of coax ;) |
| [02:40:00] | sgorilla: | what is a transponder? |
| [02:40:00] | sgorilla: | i know here it can vary a lot between residendital areas |
| [02:40:00] | sgorilla: | i can get up to 8mbit down |
| [02:40:00] | Juski: | multiplex containing channel streams |
| [02:40:00] | sgorilla: | ay |
| [02:40:00] | sgorilla: | ah |
| [02:41:00] | Juski: | think of each transponder like a data stream ( which it is, basically) |
| [02:41:00] | sgorilla: | ok |
| [02:41:00] | Juski: | each channel is then de-muxed off the transponders as & when you 'tune' to them |
| [02:42:00] | Juski: | data rate of all the tv channels I get on cable is like 1.8Mbits/sec :( |
| [02:42:00] | sgorilla: | when you "tune" it sends data back to the transponder? |
| [02:42:00] | Juski: | sgorilla... nope |
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| [02:42:00] | sgorilla: | does your dvr box communicate back to your cable provider? |
| [02:42:00] | Juski: | the set top box software works out what you're entitled to from the data on your viewing card |
| [02:42:00] | sgorilla: | like keep track of what channels you watch, for digital cable |
| [02:43:00] | sgorilla: | ok, and that can be programmed remotely? |
| [02:43:00] | Juski: | for on-demand & PPV there's talkback |
| [02:43:00] | sgorilla: | like new firmware is added? |
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| [02:43:00] | Juski: | yep.. they can do that too – it's all DOCSIS standard kit |
| [02:43:00] | sgorilla: | how do the on-demand streams get to you, or VOD? |
| [02:43:00] | Juski: | at the moment they're just time-shifted on lots of different 'virtual' channel streams |
| [02:44:00] | sgorilla: | is it all being sent at once, and you just "tune" to it ? |
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| [02:44:00] | Juski: | but they're going to actual on-demand soon |
| [02:44:00] | sgorilla: | ok i have seen the time shifted ones, and real on-demand |
| [02:44:00] | Juski: | as in.. we request it from our STB.. then they stream it |
| [02:44:00] | sgorilla: | i think real on demand is working in the US |
| [02:44:00] | sgorilla: | i have seen it before |
| [02:44:00] | Juski: | seems like a cool idea |
| [02:44:00] | sgorilla: | its HBO on demand |
| [02:44:00] | sgorilla: | you have a bunch of episodes from certain seasons |
| [02:45:00] | Juski: | I can see all TV being delivered like that – well maybe not ALL |
| [02:45:00] | sgorilla: | you can play them, scroll back and forth between them, and make bookmarks |
| [02:45:00] | sgorilla: | not sure if that is hdtv though |
| [02:45:00] | sgorilla: | not sure if HD On Demand exists |
| [02:45:00] | sgorilla: | if it does, that would be cool |
| [02:45:00] | Juski: | maybe,, maybe not |
| [02:48:00] | sgorilla: | i just wonder how they are able to send 1080i hd tv over so many channels |
| [02:48:00] | sgorilla: | i wouldnt think the network would be able to handle it |
| [02:48:00] | sgorilla: | unless when you went to a channel, it would request that stream |
| [02:48:00] | sgorilla: | what is the max a cable modem could run at theoretiicaly?\ |
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| [02:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | ~29MBits |
| [02:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Assuming you have one that has a 100MBit ethernetport |
| [02:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | most just have a 10MBit port |
| [02:50:00] | sgorilla: | yeah most have 10Mbit port |
| [02:50:00] | Juski: | mine is built into the STB.. 100Mb :D |
| [02:50:00] | sgorilla: | ok 29Mbit isnt that bad |
| [02:50:00] | sgorilla: | you could definately stream 1080i hdtv from off the internet to you |
| [02:50:00] | sgorilla: | lets say you had a mythtv backend in a datacenter |
| [02:51:00] | Juski: | unlike that 1Gbit broadband they've got in the far East for less money than I pay for my 2Mb |
| [02:51:00] | sgorilla: | yeah its cheap in everywhere else |
| [02:51:00] | sgorilla: | in the US residential internet is really slow and expensive |
| [02:51:00] | Juski: | not complaining, but even my 2Mbit is capped at 30GB/month |
| [02:51:00] | sgorilla: | thats because of lobbyiests |
| [02:52:00] | Juski: | lobbyists? what's their beef? |
| [02:52:00] | sgorilla: | i think i can go through 30GB a day |
| [02:52:00] | sgorilla: | no cap that i know of for me |
| [02:53:00] | sgorilla: | i have gotten 8MbitSec downloads |
| [02:53:00] | sgorilla: | 1Mbyte second, 3600 seconds in a day |
| [02:53:00] | sgorilla: | not sure what that comes out to |
| [02:53:00] | Juski: | that's just wrong |
| [02:53:00] | Juski: | :( |
| [02:53:00] | sgorilla: | ? |
| [02:53:00] | Juski: | moan, whine.. moan |
| [02:53:00] | sgorilla: | haha |
| [02:53:00] | sgorilla: | i still complain |
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| [02:54:00] | Juski: | yeh.. I get 2mbits/sec.. but a dns request can still take 15 seconds |
| [02:54:00] | sgorilla: | how much bandwidth do you need for 480i ? |
| [02:54:00] | sgorilla: | Juski: run your own caching dns server |
| [02:54:00] | sgorilla: | or use another dns server |
| [02:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | My Service is 10MBit, not cap, and I hit 850KB-1024KB regularly for some sites |
| [02:54:00] | sgorilla: | is it a high latency connection? |
| [02:54:00] | sgorilla: | GreyFoxx: how much is that? |
| [02:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | $44.95 CDN |
| [02:55:00] | sgorilla: | damn dude that is awesome |
| [02:55:00] | Juski: | wah! not fair! |
| [02:55:00] | sgorilla: | what is your upstream? |
| [02:55:00] | Juski: | that said I get one of the best deals in the UK |
| [02:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have a colo'd server and I can download from it at 700–850KB . Makes it convienient(spl?) |
| [02:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | sgorilla: 1MB |
| [02:56:00] | sgorilla: | thats not bad |
| [02:56:00] | sgorilla: | is there a way to get 10MB upstream also? |
| [02:56:00] | sgorilla: | what options do you have in terms of price for getting more bandwidth |
| [02:56:00] | Juski: | 256k here.. and that costs me £25.99 a month |
| [02:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I could care less about upstream, and even though the downstream is nice I don't care much about that. I care about stability which my service is very good for |
| [02:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | sgorilla: If I wanted that much stream it would require a fibre connection of some sort. Your cable ISP wont be giving you more than 2MB upstream :) |
| [02:57:00] | Juski: | wouldn't mind moving to canada, and not just for the broadband ;) |
| [02:57:00] | sgorilla: | i want to have upstream so i can do iptv type of stuff, carry a set top box with me and watch all my dvds from home |
| [02:57:00] | sgorilla: | remotely |
| [02:57:00] | Juski: | get a big HDD man |
| [02:57:00] | sgorilla: | GreyFoxx: i am negoating fiber 20mbit/sec |
| [02:58:00] | Juski: | until such time as networks capable of it hit the streets at reasonable prices |
| [02:58:00] | bigbub: | Hi all. I'm in the process of softmodding an XB0X for use as a mythtv frontend. Currently I have two, one with K4034/D5960 and another with K5713/D5960. Anyone have any experience rolling back the kernel to a pre-K4020 kernel? |
| [02:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | sgorilla: Regardless of your ISP you will have issues with that as you have to remember there are hops between you and the destination which can slow you down |
| [02:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | sgorilla: Get an Archos av700 |
| [02:58:00] | sgorilla: | GreyFoxx: thats true |
| [02:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's a portable video player, dvr and has tv out |
| [02:58:00] | sgorilla: | yeah i have seen one of those things |
| [02:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | and like 100GB of space |
| [02:58:00] | sgorilla: | pretty cool |
| [02:58:00] | Juski: | perpendicular recording HDDs are on their way :) |
| [02:58:00] | sgorilla: | but im thinking like be able to stream hdtv signals over the internet |
| [02:58:00] | sgorilla: | maybe only be able to do 480i |
| [02:59:00] | sgorilla: | but it would be cool |
| [02:59:00] | sgorilla: | or be able to pick what type of stream you want |
| [02:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I stream from my house to my office everyday |
| [02:59:00] | sgorilla: | depending on what you plug into |
| [02:59:00] | sgorilla: | GreyFoxx: tv? |
| [02:59:00] | Juski: | recording every programme from every channel for a month would be cool... |
| [02:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | sgorilla: Recordings and livetv |
| [02:59:00] | sgorilla: | awesome |
| [02:59:00] | Juski: | I'm going greener here |
| [02:59:00] | sgorilla: | how does the transport work? |
| [02:59:00] | sgorilla: | haha |
| [03:00:00] | Juski: | best go to bed before envy gets the better of me & I say something I regret |
| [03:00:00] | sgorilla: | GreyFoxx: is your internet connection cable? |
| [03:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | sgorilla: Well I have enough upstream that a lot bitrate would be easy, but I just use vlc and stream it to my office. |
| [03:00:00] | Juski: | night all :) |
| [03:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | sgorilla: Yes |
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| [03:00:00] | sgorilla: | ok cool |
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| [03:00:00] | sgorilla: | GreyFoxx: if thats a shared network, how do they stop arppoisning? |
| [03:01:00] | sgorilla: | lets say you change an arp records on another router |
| [03:01:00] | sgorilla: | i am wondering how secure cable networks are |
| [03:01:00] | sgorilla: | if its a shared network |
| [03:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | sgorilla: You would have to ask them, I stopped working there almost 5 years ago |
| [03:01:00] | bigbub: | Anyone have time to answer a couple of noob questions? |
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| [03:01:00] | sgorilla: | i guess it different at different places |
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| [03:06:00] | r2: | question: I've got a recording (dct-6200 firewire input) that gives me static audio when played through mythfrontend, but I can play it just fine with mplayer on the command line. does anybody have experience with this? |
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| [03:06:00] | bigbub_: | question: anyone using softmodded xbox as frontend? |
| [03:13:00] | sgorilla: | r2: can you use mplayer as your default player in mythfrontend? |
| [03:16:00] | bigbub_: | /msg nickserv set unfiltered on |
| [03:16:00] | r2: | sgorilla: it is my default for everything I can find, but apparently when watching recordings, mplayer isn't being used. In fact, I just see another mythfrontend process, nothing like mplayer/xine/ogle. |
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| [03:18:00] | r2: | sgorilla: that was my first guess, and searching through the database and mfe's configuration showed nothing by mplayer for everything. The command line that is listed in the database should work if it were being used, but while I was playing the video in question (and hearing the static), I jumped over to an xterm and only found a second mythfrontend process. |
| [03:19:00] | r2: | sgorilla: any thoughts? |
| [03:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | All playback of recordings+livetv are done with the internal player |
| [03:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | mplayer would only be used in mythvideo or mythdvd if you have it configured to do so |
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| [03:20:00] | r2: | GreyFoxx: okay, that confirms my thought on that ... is there anyway to either (1) fix the internal player to correctly play the audio or (2) use mplayer? |
| [03:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | 1: Find out why it's not working and made code mods. 2: No |
| [03:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Of course you could copy the recording recording to somewhere under mythvideo and play it there withmplayer |
| [03:21:00] | r2: | GreyFoxx: that's what I thought ... I am fairly linux-savvy and am not completely afraid to look at code, but I'm not codec-aware, so that's a wall I'm up against |
| [03:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | What are you running ? |
| [03:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | svn or 0.18.x release ? |
| [03:22:00] | r2: | GreyFoxx: the option of copying it over actually seems like it would be the easiest workaround, but I'm trying to keep the WAF-rating as high as possible |
| [03:22:00] | r2: | GreyFoxx: I'm running 0.18.1. |
| [03:22:00] | r2: | does the svn address audio issues in mpeg2ts files? |
| [03:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | You said you have a recording, as in a single recording with problems ? |
| [03:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | and other recordings are fine ? |
| [03:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | r2: There have been so many changes since 0.18.x I have no idea if it would fix your particular problem or not |
| [03:24:00] | r2: | GreyFoxx: [so many changes] what I expected, I was just hoping you had "the bubble" on it all |
| [03:24:00] | r2: | it is currently a single recording since that's all I've tested. I just got the firewire piece from my DCT-6200 to work, so I imagine that it will be a problem with anything I grab via the firewire |
| [03:24:00] | r2: | anything I grab from my pvr-500 is fine |
| [03:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | how about test that first :) |
| [03:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | see if it's a one off problem or recurring :) |
| [03:25:00] | r2: | GreyFoxx: okay, not out of the realm of possibilities ... I'll have a look when my wife is done watching her latest recording ... part of the WAF-rating is not interrupting her viewing ;-) |
| [03:26:00] | r2: | GreyFoxx: is there any reasonable centralized listing of major changes in the svn version over 0.18.1? I'm not averse to trying it, but only if it'll fix/add things that concern me and my setup |
| [03:26:00] | r2: | (I'd rather not read "svn log" output ...) |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | r2: No list that I've seen other than the commits mailing list |
| [03:27:00] | r2: | (... gets a little verbose at times) |
| [03:27:00] | r2: | GreyFoxx: thanks |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I've never looked for one either |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | there have been ~800 or so commits I think |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | and a lot have been dvb related |
| [03:27:00] | r2: | GreyFoxx: that's why I'm "afraid" to start digging for changes the brute-force way ... it'll take me days to parse through all of it (much less actually understand all of it) |
| [03:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | just backup your database first, if it doesn't help you can revert |
| [03:28:00] | r2: | absolutely ... wouldn't dream of not leaving myself a "way out" |
| [03:30:00] | r2: | GreyFoxx: thanks for the help ... it's one thing to think something makes sense, it's another to bounce it people and get some confirmation |
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| [03:34:00] | frox: | i'm trying to get my ir receiver working and not having luck, it is an ira-3, irman variant, and i have compiled the 0.7.3 drivers and installed the lirc_serial module, but everytime i run irw it tells me it can't open /dev/ttyS0 and gives me an I/O error and then says it caught signal, any ideas? |
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| [03:54:00] | Boonie: | need some help |
| [03:55:00] | Boonie: | if I have an ati card |
| [03:55:00] | Boonie: | do I need to install ivtv for myth? |
| [03:57:00] | jams: | The two are not related |
| [03:58:00] | Boonie: | so yes I do need ivtv? |
| [03:59:00] | jams: | ivtv is a driver for hardware mpeg2 encoder cards |
| [03:59:00] | jams: | what sort of ati card is it? |
| [03:59:00] | Boonie: | ati tv wonder pro remote edition |
| [03:59:00] | jams: | then no ivtv is not needed for that card |
| [04:00:00] | Boonie: | from what I read ivtv is for hauppage cards |
| [04:00:00] | Boonie: | ah |
| [04:00:00] | Boonie: | good |
| [04:00:00] | Boonie: | one less thing to fight with |
| [04:00:00] | jams: | yes that's correct |
| [04:00:00] | Boonie: | I"m very new to linux |
| [04:00:00] | Boonie: | so I'm muddling my way through this install |
| [04:01:00] | Boonie: | anyone here using suse 9.3 and myth? |
| [04:01:00] | jams: | yep |
| [04:01:00] | Boonie: | thanks jams |
| [04:01:00] | Boonie: | ah |
| [04:01:00] | Boonie: | how hard of an install was it? |
| [04:02:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: You around? |
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| [04:02:00] | jams: | pretty simple |
| [04:02:00] | jams: | there are a couple guides and rpm's out there |
| [04:03:00] | Boonie: | you did it from an rpm? |
| [04:03:00] | Boonie: | I'm trying to follow one and I am getting dependency failures |
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| [04:03:00] | jams: | Well I didn't, but I'm also not new to linux |
| [04:04:00] | jams: | http://folk.uio.no/oeysteio/ |
| [04:04:00] | jams: | that guide might be your best bet |
| [04:04:00] | jams: | which guide are you following and what dependency problems are you having? |
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| [04:05:00] | ShockValue: | man, somehow my install keeps getting confused about versions. |
| [04:05:00] | ShockValue: | when i touch it with my frontend, it b0rks the main machine |
| [04:06:00] | Boonie: | actually I was having the issues with installing xmltv |
| [04:07:00] | Boonie: | when I try to install from rpm for myth, nothing happens |
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| [04:07:00] | Boonie: | I type rpm -i myth.....rpm and nothing |
| [04:08:00] | Boonie: | I am su when I do it |
| [04:08:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: in and out |
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| [04:08:00] | Boonie: | what will happen when I install it successfully? |
| [04:08:00] | Boonie: | will an icon appear on the desktop or in the menus somewhere? |
| [04:09:00] | xris: | Boonie: try -Uvh instead of -i |
| [04:09:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: Just wanted to say that I love the regex example for search in MythWeb. :-) |
| [04:09:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: oh. heh. |
| [04:09:00] | jams: | if you use the rpm's on the link I showed you it will add an icon on the desktop |
| [04:09:00] | xris: | menu option likely wouldn't appear until the panel gets restarted. |
| [04:09:00] | Boonie: | warning: apt-0.5.4cnc9–1cl.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 92a38df6 |
| [04:09:00] | Boonie: | error: Failed dependencies: |
| [04:09:00] | Boonie: | libdb.so.2 is needed by apt-0.5.4cnc9–1cl |
| [04:09:00] | Boonie: | librpm.so.0 is needed by apt-0.5.4cnc9–1cl |
| [04:09:00] | Boonie: | that's what happens when I try to install xmltv |
| [04:10:00] | ShockValue: | anyone seen this error: Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION ? according to the archives it happens when i have different versions on front/backend running.. but i have the same in my case |
| [04:10:00] | xris: | what distro? that libdb sounds old |
| [04:10:00] | xris: | ShockValue: svn? |
| [04:10:00] | Boonie: | suse 9.3 |
| [04:10:00] | ShockValue: | xris: 0.18.1.20050510–1 |
| [04:10:00] | xris: | ShockValue: that doesn't help |
| [04:10:00] | xris: | are you running svn, or an official release? |
| [04:10:00] | ShockValue: | xris: i dunno what svn means :) |
| [04:10:00] | ShockValue: | official.. AFAIK. "emerge mythtv" :) |
| [04:10:00] | xris: | ok, then it's a release. (there was a bug in the svn/subversion tree the other day that made that bug) |
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| [04:11:00] | ShockValue: | xris: i had this trouble a couple of days ago, so i rebooted and it worked ok.. but now it's doing it again and rebooting doesnt help |
| [04:11:00] | xris: | ShockValue: really don't know what to say.. need to make sure that all of the packages you emerged are of the same version. |
| [04:12:00] | ShockValue: | xris: it seems related to when i connect to it with my other mythfrontend .. but they are all running 0.18.1.20050510–1 |
| [04:12:00] | xris: | could be something corrupt in the db, |
| [04:12:00] | Boonie: | jams: which rpm do I dl from that site |
| [04:12:00] | Boonie: | I'm in the 9.3 folder |
| [04:13:00] | mk500: | does anyone know where mythfrontend stores the preference of what server to connect to (NFS)? my frontend is trying to connect to "localhost" when it should be connecting to a remote server IP address |
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| [04:15:00] | zaps: | hello room |
| [04:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Hola. |
| [04:15:00] | zaps: | I have an issue with contrib/change-channel-lirc.sh |
| [04:16:00] | zaps: | mythtv doesnt seem to be passing $1 to it |
| [04:16:00] | zaps: | any help ? |
| [04:16:00] | Krazylegz: | Distro and version of Myth? |
| [04:16:00] | zaps: | slackware 10.2 0.18.1 |
| [04:17:00] | zaps: | everything else works |
| [04:17:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm. You installed from source? |
| [04:17:00] | zaps: | yes |
| [04:17:00] | zaps: | after some QT hardship =) |
| [04:18:00] | sgorilla: | hello |
| [04:18:00] | zaps: | hi |
| [04:18:00] | sgorilla: | does mythtv support dvd deinterlacing at the server before it sends it to a mythtv frontend? |
| [04:18:00] | sgorilla: | also what is the most you can get out of a dvd |
| [04:19:00] | sgorilla: | 480i with ac3 audio? |
| [04:20:00] | Krazylegz: | zaps: Not sure. Maybe try grabbing a new version of just that file from somewhere? |
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| [04:21:00] | zaps: | It works from the command line thou |
| [04:21:00] | zaps: | I was wounder what arguments are passwd to the changechannel command |
| [04:21:00] | zaps: | err passed |
| [04:22:00] | zaps: | ./changechannel <channelnum> ? |
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| [04:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | sgorilla: the backend doesn't feed dvd's to the frontend. the dvd's are played locally on the frontend |
| [04:24:00] | ShockValue: | the only error i'm getting in my logs is: write 12->21 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION |
| [04:24:00] | sgorilla: | GreyFoxx: is it a way to play the dvds non-locally? |
| [04:25:00] | sgorilla: | GreyFoxx: possibly sharing the dvd over the network |
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| [04:25:00] | sgorilla: | would that be possible with a 100mbit connection on a gigabit switch? |
| [04:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | that's still "played" locally even if the content comes from a remote source |
| [04:25:00] | derek_: | hey all – where do i find config files for my cable box / irblaster ? |
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| [04:26:00] | sgorilla: | GreyFoxx: ok makes sense |
| [04:27:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody know where you get the config files for a cablebox to use with your IRBlaster |
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| [04:28:00] | mandyblock: | I have my freakin pvr output problem again |
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| [04:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | mandyblock: What problem is that ? |
| [04:32:00] | zaps: | sweet got it working .. had to restart the backend ! |
| [04:32:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, neat. Congratulations. |
| [04:32:00] | mandyblock: | like if I just do cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg |
| [04:32:00] | Krazylegz: | My next tip was going to be grepping the source. |
| [04:32:00] | mandyblock: | and then file file.mpg, it says, test.mpg: data |
| [04:33:00] | mandyblock: | the file it creats can't be opened by avidemux2 |
| [04:33:00] | mandyblock: | and I have tons of other problems with whatever format it's creating |
| [04:33:00] | zaps: | thanks for the help |
| [04:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | mandyblock: Can you player it in mplayer ? |
| [04:33:00] | mandyblock: | yea, it does play |
| [04:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Can you run mplayer directly against /dev/video0 ? |
| [04:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | So the problem is with openning it in avidemux only ? |
| [04:35:00] | mandyblock: | I've tried other apps as well, it's creating some weird file |
| [04:35:00] | mandyblock: | I upgraded the firmware, and it worked great for a while, the files were opening up fine |
| [04:36:00] | mandyblock: | now somehow it's reverted |
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| [04:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Can't say I've ever had a problem openning a mpg in avidemux2, but it's not something I do regularly |
| [04:38:00] | mandyblock: | having file tell me just "data" makes me feel something isn't right |
| [04:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythtv@woop:/data/mythtv$ file 1012_20051023230000.mpg |
| [04:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | 1012_20051023230000.mpg: MPEG system stream data |
| [04:42:00] | mandyblock: | that seems more correct |
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| [04:48:00] | pookSter: | g'night people |
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| [04:48:00] | mandyblock: | heh, wtf after a reboot it's making MPEG files again |
| [04:49:00] | ShockValue: | ok, weird.. "mythfilldatabase" fixes the MYTH_PROTO_VERSION error |
| [04:49:00] | ShockValue: | and connecting from my second front end is what causes the system to crap out and start having those issues |
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| [05:37:00] | Uberbot: | Hi all. |
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| [05:39:00] | Uberbot: | Does anyone have any suggestions as to why my pvr gains 10 minutes a day? |
| [05:39:00] | Krazylegz: | MythTV is supposed to be time-shifting software, not time-travel software... |
| [05:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | bad clock on your system ? |
| [05:39:00] | Uberbot: | :-D |
| [05:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mine looses 7 seconds a day |
| [05:40:00] | Uberbot: | The MB is only about a year old.... |
| [05:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got another system that looses 33 seconds everyday |
| [05:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just have them all sync to a central source and I keep that synced to an atomic clock |
| [05:41:00] | Krazylegz: | NTP? |
| [05:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | 10 minutes a day is a little excessive though heh |
| [05:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah |
| [05:41:00] | Uberbot: | How do I install ntp on a KnoppMyth box, then? |
| [05:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'd be suprised if it wasn't already there |
| [05:42:00] | Krazylegz: | It is already there. |
| [05:42:00] | Uberbot: | checking... |
| [05:44:00] | Uberbot: | ntpdate is installed, but where is it configured? |
| [05:45:00] | Uberbot: | Never mind. It's hard coded in the /etc/init.d/ntpdate startup file.... Grrrr. |
| [05:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | I always call it in acronjob. I don't know if it even has a config file :) |
| [05:47:00] | Uberbot: | That sounds like a better plan. Thanx. |
| [05:47:00] | Uberbot: | Any recommendations for an ntp server, then? |
| [05:48:00] | Uberbot: | Either the ntp, or openntp? |
| [05:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use my own server which syncs to an atomic clock at a local university which I have special access to |
| [05:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | but there are tons out there |
| [05:49:00] | Uberbot: | I was going to install ntpd on my main server. I need a rec. on which server software to install. |
| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just use ntpd that comes with slackware. I've never looked at any other |
| [05:51:00] | Uberbot: | Then there is no reason for me to try openntp. |
| [05:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can't really comment on it :) |
| [05:51:00] | Uberbot: | Either way, it souldn't be too hard, right? |
| [05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | I wouldn't think so |
| [05:52:00] | Uberbot: | Ok then. I've got my work cut out for me. Thanx. |
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| [06:12:00] | mk500: | hi all |
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| [06:18:00] | _Nero_: | so close to being done with this theme, and I have run out of ideas.. argh.. |
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| [06:21:00] | PatrickDK: | any random person alive? |
| [06:22:00] | PatrickDK: | I need someone to ssh into tenchi.patrickdk.com |
| [06:22:00] | PatrickDK: | invalid passwords please :) |
| [06:22:00] | _Nero_: | I'm alive.. |
| [06:22:00] | PatrickDK: | like, 6 times or so |
| [06:22:00] | PatrickDK: | trying to test my ssh scanner log program |
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| [06:23:00] | _Nero_: | good? |
| [06:24:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, not quite quick enough |
| [06:24:00] | PatrickDK: | I will adjust that |
| [06:24:00] | PatrickDK: | forgot I had it on 10second instead of 60 |
| [06:24:00] | _Nero_: | oh, you needed me to login 6 times in 10 seconds?? lol |
| [06:24:00] | _Nero_: | tell me when |
| [06:24:00] | PatrickDK: | ok, changed it to 60 seconds |
| [06:25:00] | PatrickDK: | I had it set to 10sec so I could test it quicker |
| [06:25:00] | PatrickDK: | instead of one test per min |
| [06:25:00] | _Nero_: | ok. here goes. |
| [06:25:00] | PatrickDK: | it's good |
| [06:25:00] | _Nero_: | work? |
| [06:25:00] | PatrickDK: | I think so |
| [06:26:00] | PatrickDK: | try again pplease :) |
| [06:26:00] | PatrickDK: | let me know when it looks like your ssh has hung |
| [06:26:00] | _Nero_: | ok |
| [06:27:00] | triplep: | anyone have sound issues with the second tuner card? |
| [06:27:00] | PatrickDK: | nope |
| [06:27:00] | PatrickDK: | you have the correct msp3400 driver loaded? |
| [06:27:00] | _Nero_: | now |
| [06:27:00] | _Nero_: | hung |
| [06:27:00] | PatrickDK: | ok, ban worked |
| [06:27:00] | PatrickDK: | it should work again now |
| [06:27:00] | _Nero_: | yup |
| [06:28:00] | PatrickDK: | thanks |
| [06:28:00] | _Nero_: | working fine now. |
| [06:28:00] | _Nero_: | no problme. |
| [06:28:00] | _Nero_: | problem that is. |
| [06:28:00] | triplep: | the first card has sound, pvr150 second card doesn't prv150mce |
| [06:28:00] | zaps: | opp mythtv doesnt handle a system time change well =) |
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| [06:29:00] | _Nero_: | zaps- dont worry too much.. for a while there my mythtv box didnt handle so much as a fly sneezing outside too well.. |
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| [06:34:00] | ShockValue: | the denoise filter in xine is basically unusable on my 2.6Ghz machine.. is that normal? Makes framerate like 5 |
| [06:34:00] | _Nero_: | ShockValue- same here, on a P4 2.4ghz.. |
| [06:35:00] | simcop2387: | anyone know the best way to play a console with a pvr150? |
| [06:35:00] | simcop2387: | mplayer buffers way to much |
| [06:35:00] | cosmo_: | console? |
| [06:35:00] | simcop2387: | ps2, n64, etc |
| [06:35:00] | _Nero_: | simcop- I think just about anything is going to buffer too much. |
| [06:35:00] | simcop2387: | _Nero_: thats what i'm afraid of |
| [06:36:00] | _Nero_: | just get yourself a cheap s-vid switch box.. :) |
| [06:36:00] | simcop2387: | i have no tv |
| [06:36:00] | _Nero_: | ahhhh.. gotcha.. |
| [06:36:00] | _Nero_: | you might be outa luck.. :( |
| [06:37:00] | triplep: | i'd say buy a vga adapter |
| [06:37:00] | simcop2387: | is the pvr150 not at all capable of doing non-mpeg video? |
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| [06:40:00] | simcop2387: | guess i'll have to break out my old bttv card then |
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| [06:55:00] | mk500: | this mythfrontend issue is killing me....does anyone know how mythfrontend determins the IP of the backend it will connect to? |
| [06:56:00] | simcop2387: | mk500: should be in setup->general |
| [06:57:00] | simcop2387: | nope it isn't |
| [06:57:00] | mk500: | simcop: right, and that information is stored in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [06:57:00] | mk500: | and it tells it where it connects for mysql |
| [06:57:00] | mk500: | that part looks right, and is working |
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| [06:58:00] | mk500: | but I get this message when I try to actually look at my listings: |
| [06:58:00] | _Nero_: | isnt it in mythtv-setup?? |
| [06:58:00] | simcop2387: | is it? |
| [06:58:00] | _Nero_: | I thought so. |
| [06:58:00] | mk500: | Connecting to backend server: localhost:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [06:58:00] | simcop2387: | yea thats it |
| [06:58:00] | simcop2387: | mythtvsetup |
| [06:59:00] | mk500: | unfortunately, I'm running mythfrontend on OS X |
| [06:59:00] | simcop2387: | under general |
| [06:59:00] | mk500: | and there is no mythtvsetup |
| [06:59:00] | _Nero_: | hold on.. |
| [06:59:00] | simcop2387: | mk500: then you'll have to set it up with mysql manually probably |
| [06:59:00] | _Nero_: | I had it working on my OS X box.. lemme take a quick look.. |
| [06:59:00] | _Nero_: | (and I know I didnt have to do any mysql trickery..) |
| [06:59:00] | mk500: | thanks Nero, simcop |
| [06:59:00] | mk500: | I have access to the mysql database, and have been looking for the setting |
| [07:00:00] | _Nero_: | got it.. |
| [07:00:00] | simcop2387: | doesn't mythsetup setup the backend for all of them? |
| [07:00:00] | _Nero_: | I just gave it the IP for the backend machine in the db host... |
| [07:00:00] | mrzippy: | so mythtv is able to play mpeg2, mpeg4 and mpeg-ts formats? |
| [07:01:00] | mk500: | db host? |
| [07:01:00] | mk500: | oh, you mean in general |
| [07:01:00] | _Nero_: | I think the backend database stores the setting for where the backend is.. so in the frontend, you point it to the backend.. yeah- Utilities->general-> host name |
| [07:01:00] | opello: | tonite's woot is one of those gyration keyboards and mouse sets, if anyone wants a keyboard for their myth setup :) |
| [07:01:00] | opello: | (woot.com) |
| [07:02:00] | mishehu: | hmm... looks like xine changed their commandline parameters so automatically having it quit after playback requires -pq instead of the former switch? |
| [07:02:00] | _Nero_: | er.. you point it to the machine that is hosting the backend database that is.. |
| [07:02:00] | ** _Nero_ needs to sleep.. ** | |
| [07:03:00] | mk500: | yeah, that used to work for me too, with older versions of the frontend |
| [07:03:00] | mk500: | just putting the IP in the settings -> general |
| [07:03:00] | _Nero_: | no more? |
| [07:03:00] | mk500: | but that doesn't seem to be working |
| [07:03:00] | _Nero_: | not sure then.. I haven't run the new version of the frontend.. :/ |
| [07:04:00] | mk500: | thanks anyway Nero....this is a weird one |
| [07:04:00] | _Nero_: | off to bed.. |
| [07:04:00] | mk500: | simcop: do you happen to know where mythsetup stores it's preferences? is it in a mythconverge table? |
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| [07:05:00] | mrzippy: | Is mythtv able to import videos? |
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| [07:11:00] | Krazylegz: | mrzippy: Yes. |
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| [07:14:00] | Cardoe: | hey Krazylegz |
| [07:14:00] | Krazylegz: | Hey Cardoe. |
| [07:14:00] | Cardoe: | how's it going? |
| [07:15:00] | Krazylegz: | I've been better. You? |
| [07:16:00] | Kynes: | hey--does anyone know of a Dashboard widget for MythTV? Something that would access MythWeb or something? |
| [07:21:00] | mk500: | simcop: I found it. It's stored in table "Settings" value "MasterServerIP". Thanks for pointing me in the right direction! |
| [07:22:00] | simcop2387: | cool |
| [07:22:00] | Cardoe: | Krazylegz: alive. |
| [07:22:00] | Cardoe: | wish I had more time |
| [07:22:00] | Cardoe: | for stuff |
| [07:23:00] | Krazylegz: | I hear that. |
| [07:23:00] | Krazylegz: | I think I'll have some more time in November/December. |
| [07:24:00] | Cardoe: | Wish someone would pay me to work for stuff I'm interested in too |
| [07:25:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, I got pretty lucky with that. |
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| [07:26:00] | Cardoe: | any of you guys know a decent, but cheap web host? |
| [07:27:00] | Krazylegz: | Just web hosting? |
| [07:27:00] | Cardoe: | well web and email |
| [07:27:00] | Krazylegz: | Most people seem to recommend GoDaddy.com. |
| [07:28:00] | Krazylegz: | At least, people in the local LUG do. |
| [07:28:00] | triplep: | Fosten : no, dual 150's one mce one oem |
| [07:29:00] | Kynes: | what's the difference between the MCE and OEM anyway? |
| [07:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Bedtime. |
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| [07:30:00] | triplep: | Kynes : remote and fr tuner |
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| [07:30:00] | triplep: | fr-fm |
| [07:31:00] | Cardoe: | hrm |
| [07:31:00] | Cardoe: | 10mb big email accounts |
| [07:31:00] | Kynes: | ah. |
| [07:32:00] | Kynes: | remote's nice. FM, who cares. :) |
| [07:32:00] | triplep: | it's like the people that complain that there's no fm on an ipod really... |
| [07:33:00] | Kynes: | yeah |
| [07:33:00] | triplep: | i think it's the mce that has no sound... |
| [07:33:00] | Kynes: | I don't own an FM radio and have never heard a compelling reason that I ought to |
| [07:34:00] | triplep: | flipping back and forth in live tv it has no sound, it's probably locking the sound device somehow and not playing nice when they switch |
| [07:34:00] | triplep: | my alarm has a radio, that's about it |
| [07:43:00] | ** travolta- wonders why fm and no am ** | |
| [07:46:00] | mandyblock: | I wish my mp3 player had am, as well as the fm |
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| [07:47:00] | ItRuns: | ? |
| [07:47:00] | ItRuns: | ! |
| [07:47:00] | ItRuns: | . |
| [07:48:00] | mandyblock: | I'd like something that records radio shows as well as tv |
| [07:48:00] | ItRuns: | oh go low level |
| [07:49:00] | ItRuns: | grab the audio in |
| [07:49:00] | ItRuns: | and save it |
| [07:49:00] | ItRuns: | audio on *nix has always blown |
| [07:49:00] | mandyblock: | but I want all the schedualing |
| [07:49:00] | ItRuns: | compared to what 'I' like about DX |
| [07:49:00] | ItRuns: | daemon this, daemon that |
| [07:49:00] | ItRuns: | soon enough the damn clock will be running all by itself |
| [07:49:00] | ItRuns: | then what ? |
| [07:49:00] | ItRuns: | all that's left is to 'wind' the machine |
| [07:50:00] | ItRuns: | before long, you're wearin' a Vadar helmet |
| [07:50:00] | ItRuns: | and sayin' damn – ain't no bitches on the death star |
| [07:50:00] | ItRuns: | (nor plants) |
| [07:55:00] | mrzippy: | if there ain't no bitches on the death star, you won't need any norplants |
| [07:55:00] | travolta-: | ItRuns, there are scripts to record audio in, google linux radio |
| [07:55:00] | travolta-: | uses sox and lame |
| [07:56:00] | travolta-: | i use them to record talk radio |
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| [08:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, you around? |
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| [08:59:00] | jtwang: | How do I get MythTV to transcode HDTV streams? |
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| [09:14:00] | fman: | weird the the PVR-150MCE has no remote |
| [09:14:00] | fman: | how would I go about getting a remote working with this then? |
| [09:16:00] | JayRCz: | I'm trying to use nuvexport to rip the audio stream from a recording, I choose a bitrate of 160, but when I check the properties of the mp3, it only shows 62.500kbps. I've also tried other bitrates, but it always ends up the same. Can anyone help me? |
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| [09:50:00] | mrzippy: | how do you import videos into mythtv? |
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| [11:46:00] | Dibblah_: | Hmmm... This is odd. Mythweb is showing 'NO DATA' for some channels. It's odd because if I click on the channel name, the schedule comes up. Anyone seen this behavior? |
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| [12:47:00] | jono: | hi all |
| [12:48:00] | jono: | when I run ./configure – it says in the video output support that nothing is supported – everything says no – is this normal? |
| [12:56:00] | jono: | anyone around? |
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| [13:59:00] | Hoxzer: | how do I import channels.conf to mythtv |
| [14:03:00] | juski: | Hoxzer.. have you tried the usual scanning method for DVB? You're in Finland, on cable as I recall... I'm assuming you managed to get a good scan with the dvb-utils :) |
| [14:03:00] | Hoxzer: | juski: yes |
| [14:04:00] | Hoxzer: | I get error "error parsing parametres |
| [14:04:00] | juski: | have you tried the channel scanning feature within mythtv itself? |
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| [14:05:00] | Hoxzer: | juski: yes as I said |
| [14:05:00] | juski: | right |
| [14:05:00] | Hoxzer: | mythtv-setup -> channel setup -> scan channels |
| [14:07:00] | juski: | I'm not sure there's a working script to import from a channels.conf since the DB schema update 0.18 brought in |
| [14:09:00] | Hoxzer: | damn .... ;/ |
| [14:11:00] | juski: | I've searched the mailing list and found some stuff that might be useful.. I suggest you try the same :) |
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| [14:13:00] | juski: | btw Hoxzer have you tried streaming from your dvb-c card into mplayer? |
| [14:13:00] | Hoxzer: | just streaming in xine |
| [14:14:00] | juski: | ahh okay – same thing |
| [14:14:00] | juski: | so your card atually works properly then ;) |
| [14:14:00] | Hoxzer: | I already knew that -_- |
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| [14:15:00] | juski: | okay okay... |
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| [14:17:00] | juski: | lunchbreak over I'm afraid.. busy busy |
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| [14:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hoxzer: I know this might seem like a strange suggestion but you COULD email the mythtv-users and ask for someone to tell you how to do it :) |
| [14:27:00] | Hoxzer: | problem is I dunno who to email |
| [14:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | You email the mailing list, not a person |
| [14:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | that email will get transmitted to all members of the list (a LOT of people) |
| [14:27:00] | Hoxzer: | tell me how |
| [14:28:00] | Hoxzer: | what is the adress? |
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| [14:28:00] | Tommck: | www.google.com |
| [14:28:00] | Hoxzer: | :D |
| [14:28:00] | Tommck: | search for mythtv-users mailing list |
| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users/ |
| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Go there, and subscribe to the list |
| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | then after you are subscribed you will be able to email the list |
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| [14:35:00] | Hoxzer: | I can't fin the subscribe button :(( |
| [14:35:00] | Hoxzer: | found |
| [14:36:00] | Hoxzer: | Lol not |
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| [14:38:00] | Hoxzer: | where it is? :D |
| [14:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's right on the page I pasted a link to |
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| [14:44:00] | mrzippy: | how does a user add non-mythtv recorded content to the media catalog? |
| [14:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Generally MythVideo is where that sort of thing goes |
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| [14:47:00] | Hoxzer: | GreyFoxx: should I recieve some separet email form mailing list admin after I have confirmed my self? |
| [14:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I believe you will receive and email that says that you are now confirmed after you send your confirming email |
| [14:53:00] | Hoxzer: | will I clicked the link and it said im confirmed |
| [14:53:00] | Hoxzer: | how should I mail to the list now? |
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| [14:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | In the email that tells you that you are confirmed it should include the email address to send the email to |
| [14:58:00] | Hoxzer: | yeah.... |
| [14:59:00] | Hoxzer: | if I did my configuration by pressing link what should I do? :D |
| [14:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't understand what you mean by that |
| [15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | Did it email you and tell you that you were confirmed or not ? |
| [15:04:00] | Hoxzer: | yes |
| [15:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | That email should contain the email address to send your post to |
| [15:05:00] | Hoxzer: | it also had a link and I clicked it |
| [15:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | And what happened when you clicked it ? |
| [15:07:00] | Hoxzer: | It gave a page where it said "I have been confirmed" :D |
| [15:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is an email that normally comes after that |
| [15:08:00] | Hoxzer: | oh, maybe it has not come yet |
| [15:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | But either way, if you are confirmed. Email mythtv-users@mythtv.org |
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| [15:17:00] | Hoxzer: | just email my problem to there? |
| [15:17:00] | Hoxzer: | or just complaining about "Where do I send my message" |
| [15:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | Email it there |
| [15:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | with as much detail as you can provide |
| [15:17:00] | Hoxzer: | ok |
| [15:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | it will get sent to everyone on the list |
| [15:18:00] | Hoxzer: | seems like already have that email :D |
| [15:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | and if someone can help they will respond |
| [15:18:00] | Hoxzer: | just didn't find the place |
| [15:18:00] | Hoxzer: | Welcome to the mythtv-users@mythtv.org mailing list! |
| [15:18:00] | Hoxzer: | To post to this list, send your email to: |
| [15:18:00] | Hoxzer: | mythtv-users@mythtv.org |
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| [15:42:00] | simon_c: | Anyone know if the Hauppauge Nova-T works on Myth ? (PCI or USB? ) |
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| [15:48:00] | johnp_: | pci old style works for me |
| [15:51:00] | mrzippy: | GreyFoxx: Does MythVideo maintain or access video metadata (eg, show name, air date, ratings, etc) or does it only display file name info? |
| [15:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | mrzippy: MythVideo doesn't access any of the recordings data, however you can configure it with meta data. Mostly the type of information one gets from imdb. I generally only have it display a tree of filenames for my uses |
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| [15:59:00] | mrzippy: | GreyFoxx: So I'll have to add support for adding the metadata from another source. |
| [15:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you want data from something other than imdb, then yes you would |
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| [16:00:00] | mrzippy: | Does MythVideo scrape the info from imdb's web page, or does imdb have some special xml format the metadata is stored in? |
| [16:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | mrzippy: I think it's scraping, but I've never actually looked at the code for that part of it |
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| [16:17:00] | simon_c: | It looks like Hauppauge are offering some deals for these nova-t cards. Computer2000 (a distributor) are offering them for £36.75+vat&carrage. |
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| [16:17:00] | simon_c: | (that's if you buy two) |
| [16:17:00] | simon_c: | Not sure if that will fead throught to the likes of ebuyer and dabs or not.... |
| [16:18:00] | Hoxzer_: | simon_c: do you have girl friend? |
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| [16:18:00] | simon_c: | Hoxzer ?? |
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| [16:18:00] | Hoxzer_: | yeah |
| [16:18:00] | Hoxzer_: | just tell me |
| [16:18:00] | Hoxzer_: | lemme know |
| [16:19:00] | ** simon_c is confused as the relevence of the question ** | |
| [16:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | haha |
| [16:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hoxzer_: This isn't a pickup join :) |
| [16:20:00] | Hoxzer_: | So you don't have girl friend? |
| [16:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | joint |
| [16:20:00] | Hoxzer_: | ;( I'm not looking for boy friend :D |
| [16:20:00] | Hoxzer_: | just asked |
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| [16:34:00] | cortezdapimp: | has anyone made a user job to make ipoddable transcodes from shows yet? |
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| [18:21:00] | juski: | hometime! |
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| [18:39:00] | rapha: | Hi all! |
| [18:39:00] | laga: | hi rapha |
| [18:39:00] | rapha: | How do you stream live TV (or recorded videos) with MythTV? |
| [18:40:00] | drb: | like, from one machine to another? |
| [18:41:00] | drb: | I'd guess NFS and a second front-end? |
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| [18:53:00] | rapha: | drb: Nah, we have one Linux server in the basement and the other machines upstairs should be able to connect to the Linux server using Windows Media Player or so |
| [18:53:00] | drb: | ah! Not sure. That'd be pretty cool if you could. |
| [18:54:00] | drb: | I'm still trying to figure out how to have separate recording priorities for the same show (reruns at priority 1, new episodes at priority 10, for example) |
| [18:54:00] | rapha: | D'oh. |
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| [18:55:00] | kormoc: | drb, while that'd be a great feature, I don't think it's possable right now |
| [18:55:00] | drb: | kormoc: seriously? |
| [18:55:00] | kormoc: | drb, yeah. |
| [18:56:00] | drb: | There are override priorities for one-record vs weekly record, though |
| [18:56:00] | drb: | could I do it with a hand-made SQL record? |
| [18:56:00] | drb: | (i.e. myth supports it, but there's no UI) |
| [18:56:00] | kormoc: | well, if it's a weekly thing, you could do it |
| [18:56:00] | kormoc: | you could always set record 9 pm on wensdays at +10 |
| [18:56:00] | kormoc: | but it won't keep track of if it's a new espode or not |
| [18:57:00] | drb: | but how do I get the reruns at a lower priority, then? |
| [18:57:00] | kormoc: | set show X at +1 |
| [18:57:00] | kormoc: | set timeslot of New X at +10 |
| [18:57:00] | rapha: | kormoc: Is the streaming thing possible? |
| [18:57:00] | drb: | ah, separate the timeslot. |
| [18:57:00] | drb: | hm, I'll check into that. |
| [18:58:00] | kormoc: | drb, it'll record reruns at +1 and whatever is in the new slot at +10, but it won't know if it's a new show or a rerun or baseball or what not |
| [18:58:00] | kormoc: | rapha, which streaming thing? |
| [18:59:00] | rapha: | kormoc: That I asked for a couple of lines further up. Using a MythTV server in the basement to stream live tv or recorded tv to some client workstations running windows |
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| [18:59:00] | rapha: | (provided the bandwidth is sufficient of course) |
| [19:00:00] | kormoc: | rapha, ahh, there is a project known as winmyth, but it doesn't really work very well at all. |
| [19:00:00] | rapha: | kormoc: Erm, I mean using Windows Media Player or something |
| [19:00:00] | rapha: | Just a simple MPG stream |
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| [19:01:00] | kormoc: | rapha, maybe mythstream? http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html |
| [19:02:00] | rapha: | kormoc: Isn't that a streaming _client_ for the MythTV _frontend_? |
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| [19:02:00] | kormoc: | not sure, hence why I said maybe. |
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| [19:04:00] | kormoc: | rapha, "It is based on StreamTuned and offers the same functionality as StreamTuned except for recording and some player debug output." |
| [19:04:00] | kormoc: | rapha, "Streamtuned can act as Podcast client and allows for local and remote (webservice) access to the repositories" |
| [19:04:00] | kormoc: | I'm thinking it says it can act like a bridge, not sure of what tho. |
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| [19:26:00] | rossi: | hi |
| [19:27:00] | rossi: | http://www.twinhan.com/product_terrestrial_3.asp <<< anyone knows which module I have to load (debian) |
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| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nifty, I've never seen that one before |
| [19:31:00] | beavis: | rossi: just use a livecd and see which modules are loaded |
| [19:31:00] | rossi: | he |
| [19:31:00] | rossi: | which one is good? |
| [19:31:00] | beavis: | rossi: my b2c2_flexcop_pci (old skystar2) is automatically loaded with kanotix |
| [19:32:00] | rossi: | I can give u the lsusb output |
| [19:32:00] | rossi: | is that a hint? |
| [19:32:00] | rossi: | Bus 001 Device 003 ID 1822:3202 Twinhan VisionDTV USB-Ter / HAMA USB DVB-T device warm |
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| [19:39:00] | Juski: | is there anybody logged in who uses minimyth? I've got problems playing back transcoded files (mpeg4). They play back perfectly when timestretched, but not at normal speed. At normal speed, audio & video are very broken-up and some of the colours look inverted. |
| [19:44:00] | otwin: | Juski: same thing here |
| [19:45:00] | otwin: | Juski: what bitrate have you set in your profile? |
| [19:46:00] | Juski: | I tried the latest version, then went back to 0.18.2 because of all the config changes it brought about.. but it was no better in 0.18.7 |
| [19:46:00] | Juski: | otwin: I don't know |
| [19:46:00] | Juski: | I'll have a look now |
| [19:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | uhhh 0.18.7 ? |
| [19:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | You mean .1 ? |
| [19:46:00] | Juski: | yeh |
| [19:47:00] | otwin: | i´m using 0.18.1.8 |
| [19:47:00] | Juski: | currently back on 0.18.1.2 |
| [19:48:00] | Juski: | I upgraded it to 0.18.1.8 and instantly broke it lol |
| [19:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I take it minimyth likes to tack on it's own versioning |
| [19:48:00] | otwin: | my bitrate is 2200 and i noticed the same problem when recording directly with bitrate 2200. |
| [19:48:00] | otwin: | GreyFoxx: it has releases within a mythtv release |
| [19:48:00] | Juski: | yeah it was the default bitrate: 2200 |
| [19:49:00] | Juski: | what I can't figure out is why timestretched playback is perfect |
| [19:50:00] | Juski: | it's no big deal.. it's not as if I'm short of disk space.. but it'd be nice to know I can transcode |
| [19:51:00] | otwin: | Juski: did you already have a look at the linpvr.org forum? |
| [19:52:00] | Juski: | yes I did |
| [19:52:00] | Juski: | searched it, then posted |
| [19:52:00] | Juski: | plenty of people viewed the post.. no responses |
| [19:53:00] | Juski: | otwin – if 0.18.1.8 is doing it, then we can assume that it's not the via video driver causing the issue |
| [19:54:00] | otwin: | Juski: why? |
| [19:54:00] | Juski: | drivers are different in 0.18.1.8 and 0.18.1.2 |
| [19:55:00] | Juski: | unless it's common to both... |
| [19:55:00] | otwin: | aah ok – but i will try different bitrates. as i said, i have the same problem with recording profiles with bitrate 2200. what is bizarre is that we´re the only one having(noticing) this problem |
| [20:01:00] | otwin: | Juski: i now recorded sth with bitrate 2600 and it plays ok – still waiting for the transcoding to finish (PIII backend...) |
| [20:01:00] | Juski: | I'm trying to get a recent recording to transcode now.. never had any trouble before |
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| [20:04:00] | otwin: | no luck, so i was wrong – it seems to be only with transcoded files |
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| [20:06:00] | Juski: | hmmm – status 'errored' |
| [20:07:00] | Juski: | zoiks.. file not found! |
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| [20:11:00] | Juski: | false alarm for that file.. but transode's log error goes something like "fork: Cannot allocate memory" |
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| [20:13:00] | WiKidd: | Just like to say thanks for the /topic, found all my answers by searching that mailing list. Can't believe that list didn't come up searching Google though! or maybe I'm just dumb :P, l8r |
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| [20:14:00] | laga: | standing ovations for wikidd. |
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| [20:23:00] | otwin: | Juski: i have no errors in my log (mythbackend.log) |
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| [20:28:00] | Juski: | otwin: I had no errors last time I transcoded... but not today |
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| [20:30:00] | Hoxzer_: | how long should it take untill the email apears in mythtv-users mailing list? |
| [20:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | usually within a few minutes. Yours appearred long ago |
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| [20:31:00] | Hoxzer_: | :E where? |
| [20:31:00] | laga: | on the mythtv-users mailing list, i believe |
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| [20:31:00] | Hoxzer_: | no shit :D |
| [20:31:00] | Hoxzer_: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ |
| [20:31:00] | Hoxzer_: | I dont see it |
| [20:31:00] | Juski: | Hoxzer_: post your channels.conf into a pastebin & I'll see if I can help |
| [20:31:00] | Hoxzer_: | Juski: can we work with this tommorrow |
| [20:31:00] | Hoxzer_: | ? |
| [20:31:00] | Hoxzer_: | I can send it to paste bin, but I must go sleep no |
| [20:32:00] | Hoxzer_: | *now |
| [20:32:00] | Juski: | ahh okay |
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| [20:32:00] | Juski: | I'll see what I can do in my lunchbreak tomorrow then |
| [20:32:00] | Juski: | but dvb-c scanning might be different & confuse me (it doesn't take much to do that) |
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| [20:33:00] | Hoxzer_: | strange |
| [20:33:00] | Hoxzer_: | what is the adress of the mailing list? |
| [20:33:00] | Hoxzer_: | :D I think I have thought it was some other |
| [20:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | The email address? mythtv-users@mythtv.org . The same place you sent the first post to |
| [20:35:00] | Hoxzer_: | I found it |
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| [20:36:00] | Hoxzer_: | not that the url, but I found it |
| [20:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | The URL you just pasted has your post in the middle of the page :) |
| [20:38:00] | Hoxzer_: | ok, can I somehow setup my settings in the way that receive email if somebody answers to my thread |
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| [20:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well as long as you are subscribed you will get an email for every post sent to the list. Or if you have a digest enabled then you will get 1 a day |
| [20:39:00] | Juski: | Hoxzer_: do you have a channel number 1 ? |
| [20:39:00] | Hoxzer_: | I don't have any channels cause I dont have pids for them |
| [20:39:00] | Hoxzer_: | but Now I need to go to sleep |
| [20:39:00] | Juski: | okay... |
| [20:39:00] | Hoxzer_: | lets see tommorrow |
| [20:40:00] | Juski: | see you tomorrow then |
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| [20:40:00] | Juski: | and now... to sort out my ubuntu mythtv install |
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| [20:40:00] | otwin: | Juski: do you use an epia m-10000 as i am? |
| [20:41:00] | Juski: | silly me for making a user called mythtv straight after installing |
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| [20:41:00] | Juski: | otwin: yes – epia m-10000 |
| [20:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | justinjas: Why is that silly ? |
| [20:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | err Juski |
| [20:43:00] | xris: | http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/ook.html |
| [20:43:00] | Juski: | silly, because apparently when you go to install the mythtv package it creates a new user |
| [20:43:00] | Juski: | I created the user before trying to install mythtv |
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| [20:44:00] | otwin: | Juski: hmm – there are probably not to too much m-10k-minimyth-transcoder-users, that´s why nobody complained about this... |
| [20:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: Ahhh |
| [20:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Silly Packages |
| [20:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [20:45:00] | Juski: | yeah GreyFoxx: it caused a raised eyebrow when i read about it |
| [20:45:00] | otwin: | i´ll post a reply to your post at linpvr – just to confirm the problem. maybe it will get some more attention |
| [20:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: Some people have too much time on their hands |
| [20:46:00] | Juski: | cool – thanks otwin |
| [20:46:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: yes |
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| [20:49:00] | Juski: | good grief... installing mythtv had failed up til now.. but I've just deleted the mythtv user I created when I first installed the distro.. and it just put the package on with no complaints |
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| [20:51:00] | Juski: | put that in yer FAQ & smoke it :) |
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| [20:51:00] | Juski: | haha.. it creates a user but doesn't put anything on the apps menu |
| [20:53:00] | Juski: | ahhh... (blushes) no it doesn't create a new user |
| [20:53:00] | Juski: | don't beleive everything you read |
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| [20:56:00] | rjune: | you got a parking violation and a maggot on your sleeve |
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| [21:00:00] | klax3: | does anyone in here have the Mac OS X frontend working with the mythvideo plugin? |
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| [21:19:00] | jamess_: | can anyone help me with a problem with tv_grab_uk_rt ? |
| [21:19:00] | jamess_: | I keep just getting: Undefined subroutine &XMLTV::AskTerm::init called at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 135. |
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| [21:38:00] | jroberts235: | I'm having trouble getting my haupauge 350 to work with the ivtv drivers. |
| [21:38:00] | jroberts235: | i get this: saa7127: Unknown parameter `enable_output' |
| [21:38:00] | jroberts235: | when I try this: modprobe saa7127 enable_output=1 output_select=0 |
| [21:39:00] | jroberts235: | it may be working fine, but the why does this test fail? Is there a new syntax for the output? |
| [21:40:00] | jonK: | try using modinfo saa7127 to learn about the correct syntax |
| [21:40:00] | jroberts235: | ok, i'll try it. |
| [21:44:00] | jroberts235: | I just removed "enable_ouput=1 " and it did something this time, but no test pattern. |
| [21:46:00] | jroberts235: | Ahhh. I removed the "output-select" parm and now I have a test image! |
| [21:47:00] | jroberts235: | moving on... |
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| [21:50:00] | jroberts235: | Is anyone using the TV-Out on a Haupauge 350? |
| [21:50:00] | Ribs: | UK Users, is Channel 4 being swrewy with MythTV right now? |
| [21:54:00] | Juski: | channel4.. let me just check... |
| [21:54:00] | Juski: | I've got more4 recording right now |
| [21:54:00] | Ribs: | okay, I think I've fixed it anyway |
| [21:54:00] | Ribs: | the PVR-250 really hates a bad signal |
| [21:54:00] | Ribs: | which is a shame, 'cos the signal in this room is shite |
| [21:55:00] | Ribs: | Is there a way of finetuning channels whilst you're watching them? |
| [21:55:00] | Ribs: | 'cos going into mythtv-setup, then running mythtv again is a pain |
| [21:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't think I've seen any keys that would allow you to do it "live" |
| [22:01:00] | Ribs: | damn |
| [22:03:00] | Juski: | oh it was an analogue tv issue.. |
| [22:04:00] | Ribs: | yeah |
| [22:04:00] | Ribs: | The audio keeps skipping |
| [22:04:00] | Ribs: | along with the video sometimes |
| [22:05:00] | Ribs: | finetuning seems to help |
| [22:05:00] | Ribs: | but it's a lengthy process |
| [22:05:00] | Juski: | has it been okay, Ribs.. or has it just started doing it? |
| [22:06:00] | Ribs: | well, the orignial software build was okay until I moved the box, even when I moved it back, it keps doing it |
| [22:06:00] | Juski: | oops – I mean has it just started acting up? The mast might be running at reduced power or something |
| [22:06:00] | Ribs: | this new build has been a pain since the beginning |
| [22:06:00] | Ribs: | bbc doesn't say anything is happening with the mast |
| [22:07:00] | Juski: | ack |
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| [22:08:00] | Ribs: | This would be SO much easier if I could finetune live |
| [22:09:00] | Ribs: | is it possible to fune-tune stuff with ptune ? |
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| [22:18:00] | jamess_: | can anyone help me with a problem with tv_grab_uk_rt ? |
| [22:18:00] | jamess_: | I keep just getting: Undefined subroutine &XMLTV::AskTerm::init called at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 135. |
| [22:22:00] | Juski: | jamess_: have you ran tv_grab_uk_rt --configure ? |
| [22:26:00] | jamess_: | Juski: yes, that's what I get when I run it |
| [22:27:00] | Ribs: | looks like you're missing a dependancy |
| [22:28:00] | jamess_: | that's what I thought, but CPAN is telling me that XMLTV::AskTerm is installed |
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| [22:32:00] | Ribs: | Have you googled for the error? |
| [22:33:00] | jamess_: | Ribs: yes. there are about three results, two of them in Swedish. |
| [22:33:00] | jamess_: | the other a posting on a mythtv forum without an answer |
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| [22:36:00] | Ribs: | URGH |
| [22:37:00] | Ribs: | I have just about had enough with MythTV's stability issues |
| [22:37:00] | Ribs: | the backend keeps continuely screwing up the tuner |
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| [22:37:00] | jamess_: | I have *everything* else working *but* the damn tv listings |
| [22:37:00] | jamess_: | which makes it kinda useless as a PVR :( |
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| [22:37:00] | Ribs: | At least you can watch TV :> |
| [22:38:00] | Juski: | have you got the perl libs installed, jamess_ ? |
| [22:38:00] | jamess_: | Juski: which ones? |
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| [22:43:00] | Ribs: | This is stupid |
| [22:43:00] | Ribs: | I can't even change channels |
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| [22:49:00] | smoke_: | how do i find out where my mixer device is located at? ... mythtv is saying it cant find it at /dev/mixer ... but its there the symblink is going to /dev/sound/mixer ... :/ |
| [22:51:00] | Ribs: | just tell mythtv where the real mixer device is |
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| [23:05:00] | kahuna_: | Hi |
| [23:05:00] | kahuna_: | Quiet here today |
| [23:06:00] | kahuna_: | So is it true that the SVN is getting locked down for bugfixes only in prep for 0.19? |
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| [23:18:00] | smoke__: | anyone here have problems with mythtv and it not being able to acecess /dev/mixer? |
| [23:19:00] | zaps: | ls -al /dev/mixer |
| [23:19:00] | zaps: | make sure you have access |
| [23:20:00] | zaps: | Im having audio issues right now .. the output is over modulated |
| [23:20:00] | zaps: | sound horriable |
| [23:20:00] | zaps: | alsamixer isnt helping |
| [23:21:00] | zaps: | SB live! card |
| [23:21:00] | zaps: | oos dirvers |
| [23:21:00] | zaps: | oss |
| [23:23:00] | Juski: | alsamixer won't help much with oss drivers would it? |
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| [23:23:00] | Juski: | think maybe oss mixer would be a better idea ;) |
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| [23:42:00] | thechris: | i'm having issues with mythtv, when does it update the database of recorded programs? |
| [23:43:00] | thechris: | it records programs, but they aren't shown by mysqldump |
| [23:43:00] | thechris: | and i have a script already written that uses mysqldump to make a playlist for VLC so i can watch recordings from my windows box |
| [23:44:00] | thechris: | but new recordings don't get added to the database... |
| [23:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I believe entries are put in recorded as soon as the recording starts |
| [23:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | but there is a simple way to find out :) |
| [23:49:00] | thechris: | how |
| [23:49:00] | thechris: | and if so, why won't mysqldump work? |
| [23:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | enable mysql logging and start a recording |
| [23:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can't imagine a reason why. The data is in there |
| [23:52:00] | Krazylegz: | thechris: Do you have information on the recordings when you look at it in Mythfrontend? |
| [23:52:00] | beavis (n=beavis@p54A790F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [23:53:00] | thechris: | no idea, i know i have the files |
| [23:53:00] | ** mishehu bahs. ** | |
| [23:53:00] | thechris: | i'd have to reboot to find out |
| [23:53:00] | Krazylegz: | You'd have to boot! |
| [23:55:00] | hadees (n=hadees@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/hadees) Quit (Connection timed out) | |
| [23:55:00] | johnp_ (n=jmp@82-69-87-196.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [23:56:00] | thechris: | mysql doesn't seem to think its there |
| [23:56:00] | thechris: | either |
| [23:56:00] | thechris: | i'm going to be pissed if i have to reboot every time i want to watch tv |
| [23:58:00] | thechris: | its missing 11 shows |
| [23:59:00] | SlicerDicer- (n=Slicer@macceketh.com) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [23:59:00] | thechris (n=chatzill@cv517-242.cv.siue.edu) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]") | |
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