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| [00:11:00] | mortal5: | howdy folks |
| [00:12:00] | mortal5: | those of you who [re]encode your captured tv, what do you use? |
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| [00:12:00] | mortal5: | what formats give you quality and portibility? |
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| [00:16:00] | mmurphy: | anyone have any idea why my pvr woudn't be recording audio but the 150 in the same machine is? |
| [00:16:00] | mmurphy: | the pvr that isn't recording audio is a 350 |
| [00:17:00] | mortal5: | you have a 150 and a 350? |
| [00:17:00] | mmurphy: | yup |
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| [00:18:00] | mortal5: | why? |
| [00:19:00] | mortal5: | also, how do you save your tv? Do you just keep the raw mpg or reencode it? |
| [00:19:00] | Flux0r: | hey, i'm planning to get myself a barebone system with mythtv, but i've got a few questions |
| [00:20:00] | Flux0r: | 'don't ask to ask!' |
| [00:20:00] | Flux0r: | ok |
| [00:20:00] | mortal5: | the answer is 42 |
| [00:20:00] | mortal5: | :p |
| [00:20:00] | Flux0r: | first of all: i'm pretty comfortable with ubuntu, but will it require more configuring than knoppmyth? |
| [00:21:00] | Flux0r: | secondly: i'd like to buy an asus pundit-r with an on-board ati video card. how well are the ati drivers at the moment? i've learnt that there was some patching of the drivers needed in the past |
| [00:24:00] | Flux0r: | third: does anybody know H Foundation? i'm listening to it right now and it chills the heck out of me! |
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| [00:27:00] | mmurphy: | anyonie running dual pvr cards here? |
| [00:29:00] | sphery: | [1]lucas: custom record (if you're still around) |
| [00:29:00] | sphery: | mmurphy: Yep. Why? |
| [00:30:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: im having issues recording with my pvr |
| [00:30:00] | sphery: | Which ones? |
| [00:30:00] | mmurphy: | pvr350 and 150 both record but the 350 has no audio |
| [00:30:00] | sphery: | Did you set up one before the other or both at the same time? |
| [00:30:00] | mmurphy: | same time |
| [00:30:00] | sphery: | (i.e. did the PVR-350 sound ever work?) |
| [00:30:00] | mmurphy: | o yes |
| [00:30:00] | mmurphy: | before i formated |
| [00:31:00] | mmurphy: | im going to remove the 150 now and retest |
| [00:31:00] | sphery: | OK. I meant on this install... |
| [00:31:00] | sphery: | Did you specify any module options? |
| [00:31:00] | sphery: | And what version of ivtv? |
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| [00:32:00] | mmurphy: | 0.4 and and no options in /etc/modprobe.conf |
| [00:32:00] | mmurphy: | should i have? |
| [00:33:00] | sphery: | Just figuring out your setup... |
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| [00:33:00] | mmurphy: | ok |
| [00:33:00] | mmurphy: | sec. |
| [00:34:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: ever see a pvr350 not record autio? |
| [00:35:00] | Jazbo: | I'm getting a slightly distorted image when I watch live tv or recordings. I found the problem by opening up a recording in avidemux and playing around with filters. I needed to do a chroma shift (both u and v needed shifting). So my question is, how can I make it so that these chroma shifts are applied to live tv (without having to do post recording processing)? Is there some way I can set the chroma shifts in ivtv? |
| [00:37:00] | sphery: | mmurphy: can you post your ivtv initialization stuff at http://pastebin.com/ |
| [00:37:00] | sphery: | mmurphy: You can get it with |
| [00:37:00] | sphery: | tac /var/log/messages | sed -n '/=\ \ END INIT IVTV\ \ =/,/= START INIT IVTV =/p; /= START INIT IVTV =/q' | tac |
| [00:39:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: pvr350 no 150 in the box or loaded in /etc/modprobe.conf video and autio works |
| [00:39:00] | sphery: | Do you have a log from when both are installed? |
| [00:39:00] | mmurphy: | getting that now ... |
| [00:39:00] | sphery: | (IVTV init info) |
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| [00:39:00] | sphery: | the tac command above pulls the last one, so it would be the one with only the 350... |
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| [00:40:00] | mmurphy: | ya im going to add it .. reboot |
| [00:40:00] | mmurphy: | give me 1 minute |
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| [00:41:00] | poonj: | hey guys....something weird's happening |
| [00:41:00] | poonj: | I compiled mythtv and mythtv-plugins |
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| [00:42:00] | poonj: | however, I'm trying to install the .deb packages I've created...and there seems to be a conflict of libraries |
| [00:42:00] | poonj: | the libqt3-mt-dev package was installed for me to compile |
| [00:42:00] | poonj: | however, when I'm trying to install libmyth, mythfrontend, and mythbackend |
| [00:42:00] | poonj: | I need libqt3c102-mt |
| [00:43:00] | poonj: | however, it says that library is not installable.... |
| [00:44:00] | jd86: | Ok, i'm working on letting another computer connect to a backend, and i can watch livetv with the frontend on the machine with the backend, but with the other machine it cant play live tv it just konks out |
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| [00:49:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: still here ?? one more minute |
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| [00:49:00] | sphery: | yep |
| [00:49:00] | mmurphy: | ok won't be long now |
| [00:49:00] | sphery: | np |
| [00:49:00] | sphery: | Trying to make a FF search plugin for MythTV mailing list archives... |
| [00:50:00] | djperegrine: | noice |
| [00:51:00] | sphery: | djperegrine: did you check in the freezer? ;) |
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| [00:53:00] | Netslayer: | how do these ati remote wonder remotes work? |
| [00:53:00] | Jazbo: | Anyone know how to set up a chroma shift? Do I do this though ivtv somehow? |
| [00:54:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: http://pastebin.com/395905 |
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| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | and |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: alias eth0 sis900 |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | options snd-card-0 index=0 |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | options snd-intel8x0 index=0 |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | alias usb-controller ehci-hcd |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | alias usb-controller1 ohci-hcd |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | #ivtv modules setup |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | alias char-major-81 ivtv |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | alias char-major-81–0 ivtv |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | alias char-major-81–1 ivtv |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | alias tuner tuner-ivtv |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv |
| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | # nvidia kernel module |
| [00:56:00] | mmurphy: | alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0–7667 |
| [00:56:00] | mmurphy: | alias nvidia nvidia-1_0–7667 |
| [00:56:00] | mmurphy: | install lirc_i2c /sbin/modprobe ivtv; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install lirc_i2c |
| [00:56:00] | mmurphy: | woops |
| [00:56:00] | mmurphy: | that was supposed to be pastebin link |
| [00:56:00] | mmurphy: | http://pastebin.com/395908 |
| [00:57:00] | sphery: | Try getting rid of the "alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv" and see what happens. |
| [00:57:00] | mmurphy: | ok |
| [00:57:00] | sphery: | 2.6.13 should have support for the PVR-350 in the kernel's msp3400 |
| [00:58:00] | sphery: | And, since that happens to be the audio processor... |
| [00:58:00] | sphery: | tveeprom: audio processor = MSP4448 (type = 1b)??? |
| [00:58:00] | sphery: | Typo in ivtv? |
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| [00:58:00] | sphery: | Seems to be working, however... |
| [00:58:00] | mmurphy: | ok rebooting now |
| [00:59:00] | sphery: | (at least the loading of 3400--not the functioning of it ;) |
| [00:59:00] | poonj: | okay |
| [00:59:00] | poonj: | I don't understand this |
| [01:00:00] | poonj: | I'm using mythdvd to rip a dvd |
| [01:00:00] | poonj: | however, when I select the track to rip, I hit 0...and then it says there are no jobs and I can hit 0 to rip a new dvd... |
| [01:00:00] | poonj: | what is wrong? |
| [01:05:00] | jd86: | ok for some reason i have a /dev/video0 /dev/video1 and they both do the same thing |
| [01:05:00] | sphery: | jd86: two tuner cards? |
| [01:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the pod people are coming the pod people are coming!!! |
| [01:06:00] | jd86: | sphery: yea, but they both are just using the first one... |
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| [01:06:00] | PaulWay: | SlicerDicer: I _am_ the pod people! |
| [01:07:00] | sphery: | jd86: ??? Both using the input "Tuner 0"? |
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| [01:08:00] | jd86: | sphery: if i have a tuner setup to /dev/v4l/video1 or video0 they both use same tuner.. |
| [01:08:00] | jd86: | :( |
| [01:08:00] | sphery: | How can you tell? |
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| [01:08:00] | jd86: | i pulled the coax out |
| [01:08:00] | jd86: | heh |
| [01:08:00] | jd86: | well unsrewed it |
| [01:09:00] | jd86: | and it was still on |
| [01:09:00] | sphery: | That should tell you... |
| [01:09:00] | jd86: | i was like its a miracle. ugh. |
| [01:09:00] | sphery: | Do you have a link from one to the other? |
| [01:09:00] | sphery: | (i.e. soft-link) |
| [01:09:00] | jd86: | i'm rebooting, i did a few changes |
| [01:09:00] | jd86: | no |
| [01:10:00] | jd86: | i think udev is playing tricks on me |
| [01:10:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: looks like that made the 350 do audio and the 150 not |
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| [01:11:00] | sphery: | jd86: That's what I would guess. It's making links or something... |
| [01:11:00] | sphery: | mmurphy: Oh, you wanted them both to work? ;) |
| [01:11:00] | jd86: | sphery: but why tho? i doubt it |
| [01:11:00] | sphery: | mmurphy: new logs on pastebin? |
| [01:12:00] | sphery: | jd86: udev does exactly what it's told--even if it's told to do the wrong thing. |
| [01:14:00] | jd86: | ut oh |
| [01:14:00] | jd86: | i tink its dead. |
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| [01:17:00] | sphery: | jd86: capture card is dead? |
| [01:18:00] | jd86: | no |
| [01:18:00] | jd86: | everything. |
| [01:18:00] | jd86: | lol |
| [01:18:00] | sphery: | Oh. |
| [01:18:00] | jd86: | this tuner stuff with linux is extremely.. pickey.. |
| [01:18:00] | sphery: | yeah... |
| [01:18:00] | sphery: | Not too forgiving. |
| [01:18:00] | sphery: | But once you get it working... :) |
| [01:19:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: no new logs ... |
| [01:19:00] | mmurphy: | which ones would help now? |
| [01:19:00] | jd86: | i think video0 is bogus |
| [01:20:00] | mmurphy: | without alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv?? |
| [01:20:00] | sphery: | The ones with the PVR-350 working and the PVR-150 soundless... |
| [01:20:00] | jd86: | i did cat /dev/v4l/video0 > test.mpeg and it said invalid argument |
| [01:20:00] | mmurphy: | ok sec. |
| [01:20:00] | sphery: | mmurphy: yes |
| [01:21:00] | mortal5: | mmurphy: what do you encode your video as? |
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| [01:21:00] | mortal5: | I find the quality settings for ivtv, if you put it down to 2200 to be really horrible |
| [01:21:00] | mortal5: | so i capture at 8k, and re-encode to 2200 avi |
| [01:21:00] | mortal5: | (ffmpeg) |
| [01:21:00] | mmurphy: | mortal5: default |
| [01:22:00] | mortal5: | you don't re-encode? |
| [01:22:00] | mortal5: | you must have a 300g hd |
| [01:22:00] | mmurphy: | not as of yet ... |
| [01:22:00] | mmurphy: | trying to get audio working first |
| [01:22:00] | mortal5: | ah |
| [01:23:00] | mortal5: | does anyone here re-encode? |
| [01:25:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: http://pastebin.com/395934 |
| [01:25:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: qhat do you think? |
| [01:25:00] | xris: | mortal5: I use nuvexport to reencode to xvid |
| [01:25:00] | xris: | 350M/hour (minus commercials) |
| [01:26:00] | mortal5: | I re-encode using ffmpeg to avi, it turns out to about a gig an hour |
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| [01:27:00] | xris: | mortal5: what kind of avi? avi is just a container format. |
| [01:27:00] | mortal5: | ffmpeg |
| [01:27:00] | xris: | and what settings? The defaults should yield 350M/hour |
| [01:27:00] | xris: | mortal5: avi can contain msvideo, xvid, divx.. probably even mpeg. |
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| [01:27:00] | sphery: | mmurphy: cx25840 1–0044: unable to open firmware /lib/modules/HcwMakoA.ROM |
| [01:27:00] | mortal5: | i c |
| [01:27:00] | xris: | or are you not using nuvexport? |
| [01:28:00] | sphery: | mmurphy: you don't have the PVR-150's audio firmware... |
| [01:28:00] | mortal5: | no i'm just passing a command line to ffmpeg |
| [01:28:00] | sphery: | mmurphy: Try again with the HcwMakoA.ROM installed and without the msp3400-ivtv alias... |
| [01:28:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: really? |
| [01:28:00] | xris: | imho ffmpeg's quality sucks compared to transcode... but nuvexport supports both. much nicer wrapper than doing things manually. |
| [01:28:00] | mmurphy: | sec. |
| [01:29:00] | mortal5: | hmm |
| [01:29:00] | mmurphy: | darn ... stupid me .. |
| [01:29:00] | mmurphy: | sec. |
| [01:29:00] | dcstimm: | hey guys, I just bought the new ipod with video support, and it plays our 480x480 mpeg2 perfectly from my 250 card |
| [01:29:00] | sphery: | mmurphy: http://www.ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware for more info on the file... |
| [01:29:00] | dcstimm: | just wanted to spread the news |
| [01:30:00] | xris: | dcstimm: nice |
| [01:31:00] | dcstimm: | xris, i was going to buy the creative zen or what ever its called but the wide screen on it made watching tv shows look very small |
| [01:31:00] | dcstimm: | the ipod screen is already 4:3 so its perfect |
| [01:31:00] | xris: | 320x240 is too small |
| [01:31:00] | dcstimm: | xris, what is? |
| [01:31:00] | mortal5: | dcstimm: I've always found the lower bitrate settings to be absolute crap in ivtv |
| [01:31:00] | xris: | dcstimm: anything smaller than a 12" laptop screen is too small. resolution aside. |
| [01:31:00] | dcstimm: | mortal5, 480x480 is fine |
| [01:32:00] | xris: | dcstimm: the screen on the ipod is 320x240 |
| [01:32:00] | dcstimm: | xris, it plays 480x480 fine |
| [01:32:00] | sphery: | xris: and even worse it's like 2.5 inches... |
| [01:32:00] | dcstimm: | sphery, its perfect though |
| [01:32:00] | xris: | dcstimm: just saying... 320x240 (and 2.5") is *way* too small for enjoyable watching. |
| [01:32:00] | dcstimm: | xris, i dont think so |
| [01:33:00] | dcstimm: | its enjoyable |
| [01:33:00] | xris: | dcstimm: well, glad you think so... |
| [01:33:00] | dcstimm: | the quality is fine |
| [01:33:00] | sphery: | so is radio, and you get about as much benefit from the video... :) |
| [01:33:00] | xris: | my real complaint about the ipod is that it doesn't support divx/xvid or ogg |
| [01:33:00] | xris: | that and the battery in mine sucks (3rd gen) |
| [01:34:00] | dcstimm: | xris, apple wouldnt do that |
| [01:34:00] | xris: | dcstimm: duh |
| [01:34:00] | xris: | I'm amazed that it plays your mpegs |
| [01:34:00] | lordliima: | anybody here know if there is development on the xbmc mythtv frontend? |
| [01:34:00] | dcstimm: | xris, 19.95 for a new battery or take it to apple for $59 and they will replace your ipod for a new one |
| [01:34:00] | mortal5: | xris: is this nuvexport like built in to mythtv or is t stand alone |
| [01:34:00] | dcstimm: | xris, quicktime plays it so this works also |
| [01:35:00] | xris: | mortal5: standalone... http://forevermore.net/files/nuvexport |
| [01:35:00] | xris: | dcstimm: quicktime plays lots of stuff. mpeg is a plugin for quicktime. thus, I'm impressed. the announcements said that it only plays 2 formats. |
| [01:36:00] | dcstimm: | xris, it plays all quicktime formats |
| [01:36:00] | dcstimm: | all native |
| [01:36:00] | xris: | dcstimm: and I know about the battery. but since 80% of my music is in ogg format, and I can't connect to my ipod from linux without wiping out any playlists I have (stupid amarok), I don't really use it. |
| [01:36:00] | xris: | dcstimm: mpeg isn't native. it's a plugin. |
| [01:36:00] | dcstimm: | xris, it plays it |
| [01:36:00] | xris: | at least it used to be. |
| [01:36:00] | xris: | dcstimm: I'm not doubting you. just saying that I doubt it's quicktime. |
| [01:36:00] | dcstimm: | hmm no idea |
| [01:37:00] | xris: | if it was quicktime, it'd play divx, etc. |
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| [01:37:00] | mortal5: | xris: have you ever used avidemux? |
| [01:37:00] | xris: | quicktime, other than the qt/mov file format stuff is really just an interface like gstreamer is for linux. |
| [01:37:00] | xris: | mortal5: yes, I do occasionally for cutting out stuff. |
| [01:38:00] | xris: | and it's used by nuvexport's mpeg2cut function (which I don't use) |
| [01:38:00] | dcstimm: | xris, the new ipod is not marketed towards playing video, its a normal ipod with bonus video |
| [01:38:00] | xris: | dcstimm: I know. |
| [01:38:00] | xris: | thus it's not a "video ipod" and stevie-j never lies. |
| [01:38:00] | dcstimm: | I wish the psp had a harddrive |
| [01:38:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | what recommendations do we have for dvb-t cardsfor use in australia? |
| [01:39:00] | mortal5: | xris: so you think avidemux is the best for video editing? |
| [01:39:00] | jd86: | of course i've gotten stuck with the one tuner card of the bunch of these types that dont work.. |
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| [01:40:00] | xris: | mortal5: for cutting commercials? myth's is best. for linux-based quick edits (esp. for lossless editing of avi files), avidemux is good.. there are others but I've never used them. |
| [01:40:00] | k-man: | i saw this sort of roadmap for 0.19 somewhere but i can't find the link again |
| [01:40:00] | k-man: | anyone know the link |
| [01:40:00] | k-man: | ? |
| [01:40:00] | xris: | k-man: the wiki keeps a log of changesets... and there might be something on the myth trac server. |
| [01:40:00] | k-man: | xris, which wiki? there seems to be more than one wiki |
| [01:41:00] | xris: | k-man: mythtv.info |
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| [01:41:00] | k-man: | ok |
| [01:41:00] | k-man: | thanks |
| [01:41:00] | xris: | there is no other wiki (yet)... there will eventually be one at mythtv.org, but they're still working on importing the stuff from .info |
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| [01:41:00] | jd86: | oh well, this is depressing. |
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| [01:41:00] | k-man: | xris, oh |
| [01:41:00] | k-man: | ok |
| [01:42:00] | ** xris goes to check on his bubbling raspberry sauce ** | |
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| [01:48:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: ?? |
| [01:48:00] | sphery: | mmurphy: yes |
| [01:48:00] | sphery: | no change? |
| [01:48:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: testing now ... and will paste in pastebin |
| [01:48:00] | mmurphy: | sec. |
| [01:53:00] | k-man: | xris, where is the myth trac serveR? |
| [01:53:00] | k-man: | server? |
| [01:53:00] | sphery: | svn.mythtv.org |
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| [01:56:00] | k-man: | thanks |
| [01:56:00] | sphery: | np |
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| [02:05:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: http://pastebin.com/395959 |
| [02:05:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: no audio works then ... |
| [02:09:00] | sphery: | mmurphy: I don't know what could be causing it. |
| [02:09:00] | sphery: | I've heard of people having problems with PVR-150/500's and PVR-250/350's mixed. |
| [02:09:00] | sphery: | It's always audio problems, too... |
| [02:10:00] | sphery: | I know that you should have the audio firmware for autodetection of the audio standard with the PVR-150 |
| [02:10:00] | sphery: | About all I can recommend is trying again with the alias for msp3400-ivtv back in... |
| [02:10:00] | mmurphy: | with the alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv i get pvr350=no pvr150=yes |
| [02:10:00] | sphery: | Also, make sure you power down the system for at least 30 seconds |
| [02:11:00] | mmurphy: | seriaously? |
| [02:11:00] | sphery: | You get 150 audio after the audio firmware is installed? |
| [02:11:00] | sphery: | Yes. Seriously you need to cold boot (after at least 30-seconds of power off--ideally power supply off). |
| [02:12:00] | mmurphy: | yup but with the alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv |
| [02:12:00] | sphery: | Some settings stick around from boot to boot, so the only way to verify a complete reset is to let all the caps discharge |
| [02:12:00] | sphery: | OK. |
| [02:12:00] | sphery: | Try the cold boot. |
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| [02:12:00] | sphery: | If that doesn't help, I don't think I'll be able to figure it out. |
| [02:12:00] | sphery: | Good luck. |
| [02:12:00] | mmurphy: | ok |
| [02:13:00] | mmurphy: | trying that now |
| [02:13:00] | mmurphy: | what is: alias tuner tuner-ivtv for? |
| [02:13:00] | sphery: | That's using the tuner module distributed with ivtv. |
| [02:13:00] | sphery: | You shouldn't need that either. |
| [02:13:00] | FITH: | Hmm. is the current SVN sensitive to g++ versions? |
| [02:14:00] | sphery: | I'd take it out (cleaner installation) |
| [02:14:00] | mmurphy: | ok ... shuting down now |
| [02:14:00] | FITH: | i.e. does it need 4.0+ or newer then 3.3.5? |
| [02:15:00] | sphery: | FITH--no |
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| [02:15:00] | sphery: | Just not older than 2.95 |
| [02:15:00] | sphery: | (I think they still support that one) |
| [02:15:00] | sphery: | You should be fine with 3.3.5 |
| [02:15:00] | FITH: | Hmm. Okay... maybe a bad checkout, or something else, I'll come back when I have a more formed question :) |
| [02:15:00] | sphery: | I have gcc 3.3.2 on my Myth box... |
| [02:17:00] | FITH: | I have a year old debian unstable box, and I was hoping to compile myth 0.18.1 + plugins with out syncing up a years worth of debs.... |
| [02:17:00] | FITH: | myth compiles fine, but the plugins die with odd errors.. I'll keep looking |
| [02:17:00] | FITH: | (or just bite the bullet and upgrade the damn thing :) |
| [02:17:00] | sphery: | gl |
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| [02:26:00] | mmurphy: | anyone else in here running PVR 250/350 + 150 ?? |
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| [02:31:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: you still around? |
| [02:32:00] | bRuZdEGO: | have you guys got any offically looking reviews that say lots of nice things about mythtv? |
| [02:32:00] | FITH: | Oh crap.... Duh. The build looks in /usr/local/include for mythtv includes and I didn't install the new version yet :) |
| [02:32:00] | sphery: | mmurphy: yeah |
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| [02:32:00] | mmurphy: | this: |
| [02:32:00] | mmurphy: | alias char-major-81 ivtv |
| [02:32:00] | mmurphy: | alias char-major-81–0 ivtv |
| [02:32:00] | mmurphy: | alias char-major-81–1 ivtv |
| [02:32:00] | mmurphy: | the pvr350 does audio and video |
| [02:33:00] | mmurphy: | and the pvr150 does video (static) and audio |
| [02:33:00] | mmurphy: | so now i have a slightly different issue |
| [02:33:00] | sphery: | should be: |
| [02:33:00] | sphery: | alias char-major-81 videodev |
| [02:33:00] | sphery: | Was it that before? |
| [02:33:00] | mmurphy: | should have been .. i don't know how it got it ivtv |
| [02:34:00] | mmurphy: | let me try that again and see what happends |
| [02:34:00] | sphery: | when you get static with the PVR-150, is it saying "tuner not set" in your log? |
| [02:35:00] | mmurphy: | which log /var/logs/messages ? |
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| [02:39:00] | mmurphy: | this command sphery: tac /var/log/messages | sed -n '/=\ \ END INIT IVTV\ \ =/,/= START INIT IVTV =/p; /= START INIT IVTV =/q' | tac |
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| [02:40:00] | sphery: | yeah, either. |
| [02:40:00] | sphery: | Or, just looking at the last ivtv init info from dmesg |
| [02:40:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: http://pastebin.com/395998 doesn't look like it |
| [02:41:00] | sphery: | tuner = <unknown> (idx = 99, type = 0) |
| [02:41:00] | sphery: | type set to 0 |
| [02:41:00] | sphery: | Didn't recognize your tuner... |
| [02:41:00] | sphery: | which tveeprom are you using? |
| [02:41:00] | sphery: | kernel's? |
| [02:42:00] | sphery: | (i.e. no alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv) |
| [02:42:00] | mmurphy: | ya i took that out |
| [02:42:00] | mmurphy: | add that back in? |
| [02:42:00] | sphery: | You just took out the tuner-ivtv, right? |
| [02:42:00] | mmurphy: | yup |
| [02:42:00] | mmurphy: | so it reads: |
| [02:42:00] | sphery: | Was there ever a tveeprom-ivtv in there? |
| [02:43:00] | sphery: | Don't know if they still have a separate tveeprom in 0.4.0 |
| [02:43:00] | mmurphy: | #ivtv modules setup |
| [02:43:00] | mmurphy: | alias char-major-81 videodev |
| [02:43:00] | mmurphy: | alias char-major-81–0 ivtv |
| [02:43:00] | mmurphy: | alias char-major-81–1 ivtv |
| [02:43:00] | mmurphy: | #alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv |
| [02:43:00] | sphery: | OK. |
| [02:43:00] | mmurphy: | ya i had it in there but i commented it could with: #alias tuner tuner-ivtv & #alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv |
| [02:43:00] | mmurphy: | try it wil uncommented #alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv |
| [02:44:00] | sphery: | I'd recommend uncommenting tveeprom-ivtv. |
| [02:44:00] | sphery: | Yeah. |
| [02:44:00] | mmurphy: | ok testing now ... shutdown for 30 seconds also |
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| [02:44:00] | sphery: | Yeah. |
| [02:44:00] | sphery: | Never hurts... |
| [02:45:00] | sphery: | Often helps. |
| [02:45:00] | poonj: | hey guys..anyone here use the rip dvd option in mythdvd? |
| [02:45:00] | poonj: | after ripping a dvd, I have to umount the dvd drive in the console before I can eject, as opposed to being able to hit the eject button on the drive |
| [02:45:00] | poonj: | is there any way around that? |
| [02:47:00] | k-man: | anyone here use mythvideo on a mounted share (samba) directory? |
| [02:47:00] | k-man: | i find it very very slow when i do |
| [02:48:00] | mmurphy: | k-man how fast is you network |
| [02:48:00] | mmurphy: | mine only take like mabey 2 sec. |
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| [02:49:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah i do, fine for me |
| [02:50:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: http://pastebin.com/396001 what you see now? |
| [02:51:00] | sphery: | looks good, except it's still trying to use the msp3400 on the pvr-150 (which doesn't have one) |
| [02:51:00] | k-man: | mmurphy, 100mb/s |
| [02:51:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: seem to both be working now |
| [02:51:00] | sphery: | don't know if that's the normal way to check it |
| [02:51:00] | k-man: | mmurphy, its particularly bad with dvd rips that are .iso files |
| [02:51:00] | sphery: | Oh. |
| [02:51:00] | sphery: | That must be normal, then. |
| [02:51:00] | mmurphy: | sweet! |
| [02:51:00] | k-man: | sphery, is it? |
| [02:52:00] | k-man: | oh |
| [02:52:00] | sphery: | It must check for an msp3400 and if it doesn't find one, it looks for the cx25840 |
| [02:52:00] | AppleBoy: | anybody here use the HD3000? |
| [02:53:00] | sphery: | good timing, mmurphy, I'm just finishing the search plugin ... |
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| [02:59:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: you do any developement |
| [03:00:00] | sphery: | no, just hacking... |
| [03:00:00] | mmurphy: | :-P |
| [03:01:00] | mmurphy: | o darn watch live tv doesn't work .. |
| [03:01:00] | mmurphy: | ha ha crashed the backend |
| [03:01:00] | sphery: | not good |
| [03:01:00] | mmurphy: | ya i wonder what the cause of this it ... |
| [03:01:00] | mmurphy: | is |
| [03:01:00] | sphery: | On the bright side, LiveTV isn't worth watching... |
| [03:01:00] | sphery: | Which is why we all put together Myth boxes... |
| [03:01:00] | sphery: | :) |
| [03:01:00] | mmurphy: | exactly ... but should be too back to fix ... |
| [03:02:00] | mmurphy: | odd that it records but not watches live tv |
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| [03:02:00] | mmurphy: | i know i've be watching live tv while i've been fixing the mythbox .. omg is sucks .. |
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| [03:03:00] | sphery: | Happens a lot (LiveTV not working, but recordings working), but I don't know why... |
| [03:03:00] | sphery: | Lots on the mailing lists... |
| [03:03:00] | sphery: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ |
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| [03:06:00] | mmurphy: | ha ha end user error |
| [03:06:00] | sphery: | figured it out? |
| [03:06:00] | mmurphy: | ./recordings/buffer / |
| [03:06:00] | mmurphy: | bad path .. ha ha .. |
| [03:06:00] | mmurphy: | good times |
| [03:06:00] | sphery: | That would do it... |
| [03:06:00] | mmurphy: | now all thats left is my themese are messed gant buttons on mythcenteral theme ... |
| [03:06:00] | mmurphy: | no idea why that ... might be a pooched rpm |
| [03:07:00] | sphery: | Yeah. |
| [03:07:00] | sphery: | Sounds like you're nearly there... |
| [03:07:00] | mmurphy: | almost! |
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| [03:32:00] | mmurphy: | sphery: know anything about themes? |
| [03:35:00] | sphery: | not too much |
| [03:35:00] | sphery: | what's up? |
| [03:36:00] | mmurphy: | one second ... i may have found something ... |
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| [03:50:00] | mmurphy: | ha ha sweet |
| [03:50:00] | mmurphy: | finally on a roll |
| [03:50:00] | mmurphy: | now if i can only offsite the mythfronend gui a bit to compensate for the overscan ... would ROCK! |
| [03:50:00] | Krazylegz: | The GUI is off? |
| [03:51:00] | mmurphy: | no, but im overscanning so the first charachter of listed recordings of off the screen |
| [03:51:00] | mmurphy: | i think there is some x,y gui position i can set to fix that |
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| [03:54:00] | Krazylegz: | mmurphy: What are you using for video output? |
| [03:58:00] | Krazylegz: | My friend's dad keeps telling me that DirectTV is cheaper than Comcast. That doesn't really appear to be the case. Perhaps a better value, but not cheaper. |
| [03:59:00] | _Nero_: | Krazylegz- DirecTV is much cheaper than cable around here.. |
| [04:00:00] | Krazylegz: | Looks like they're both ~$40-$45/month? |
| [04:00:00] | _Nero_: | for what I get with DirecTV I am paying about $10.00/month less.. I think it is kind of area dependent. |
| [04:00:00] | _Nero_: | Here, I pay $40ish, and basic cable is $51.00 a month.. |
| [04:01:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah, okay. Where is that? |
| [04:01:00] | _Nero_: | Central New Jersey.. |
| [04:01:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, NJ. |
| [04:01:00] | NightMonkey: | Krazylegz: Comcast is tageting sat-heavy areas with lower local prices and intro deals. |
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| [04:01:00] | Krazylegz: | Interesting. I don't think that the new place will be satellite heavy. |
| [04:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Regardless, I'll be doing Comcast high-speed Internet, so they kind-of-but-not-really cut me a deal. |
| [04:03:00] | banyan: | Hello! My lirc daemon falls over and dies as soon as anything connects to it. Any ideas as to how to fix it? |
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| [04:04:00] | Agrajag-: | run it with -n and see what it says |
| [04:04:00] | Agrajag-: | most likely it can't open your lirc device |
| [04:04:00] | banyan: | ok! |
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| [04:10:00] | banyan: | Well, you're exactly right Agrajag-. |
| [04:11:00] | banyan: | It accepts a new client on /dev/lircd and then craps out because it can't get file info for /dev/lirc. |
| [04:12:00] | Agrajag-: | have you loaded the correct lirc module? |
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| [04:15:00] | banyan: | Well. I've recently begun running the 2.6.12–1.1378 kernel. I loaded the same ones I used to need with 2.6.11... |
| [04:16:00] | pookSter: | can anyone help me with mysql setup? |
| [04:17:00] | banyan: | They've really smartened up apt-get. It knows to go ahead and grab the ivtv modules for the new kernel, which used to be a bit of a pain. |
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| [04:19:00] | banyan: | Now if they could just figure out a way to do the nvidia drivers. |
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| [04:21:00] | hari_seldon99: | hi |
| [04:22:00] | hari_seldon99: | I'm having some trouble getting tv-out in my pvr350 to work with mythtv and was wondering if you chaps could help me |
| [04:22:00] | banyan: | Do you have the ivtv_fb module loaded? |
| [04:23:00] | hari_seldon99: | yes I do |
| [04:23:00] | hari_seldon99: | I followed the howto at http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=36317#36317 |
| [04:23:00] | banyan: | Do you see the TV go green for a couple of seconds while the ivtv module loads? |
| [04:24:00] | hari_seldon99: | Nope. My problems are posted here: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=37495#37495 |
| [04:24:00] | Jazbo: | I need to adjust the chroma (U and V) shifts. But I cant do it using the mythtv filters because my card (pvr-250) has hardware encoding. I think I need to do something with ivtv but I can't figure out what. Anyone have suggestions? |
| [04:24:00] | hari_seldon99: | I don't have composite or s-video ports in my tv, so I've connected the composite cables of the pvr350 to an rf modulator and from there to the tv using coax |
| [04:24:00] | banyan: | Does anything interesting happen in your dmesg? |
| [04:25:00] | hari_seldon99: | I haven't connected the S-video cable, only the composite audio/video |
| [04:25:00] | banyan: | between START IVTV and STOP IVTV? |
| [04:25:00] | hari_seldon99: | thanks for your interest btw |
| [04:26:00] | hari_seldon99: | hang on, I'll post my /var/log/messages, looks okay to me though,... |
| [04:26:00] | banyan: | Depending on your distro, /var/log/messages may not contain the section. |
| [04:27:00] | banyan: | But if it's in there, great. |
| [04:27:00] | hari_seldon99: | I'm using knoppmyth |
| [04:27:00] | hari_seldon99: | the section is there |
| [04:27:00] | hari_seldon99: | I'll post it, hang on... |
| [04:27:00] | banyan: | Yeah, that's debian-ish. I'm on fc3 |
| [04:27:00] | banyan: | Well, pastebin it. |
| [04:28:00] | hari_seldon99: | it's a bit big |
| [04:28:00] | hari_seldon99: | I'll put it up in my webpage & post the link |
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| [04:28:00] | banyan: | yeah, or throw it on pastebing.com |
| [04:28:00] | banyan: | yeah, or throw it on pastebin.com |
| [04:30:00] | hari_seldon99: | http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~daneel/messages |
| [04:31:00] | hari_seldon99: | The latest ivtv section was 20 mins agi at 9:10 |
| [04:32:00] | hari_seldon99: | were you able to see it? |
| [04:33:00] | banyan: | yep |
| [04:33:00] | hari_seldon99: | I've pastebinned the ivtv section at: http://pastebin.com/396074 |
| [04:33:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh, ok |
| [04:34:00] | hari_seldon99: | can you discern anything odd? |
| [04:34:00] | banyan: | Do you have a post-install section where you do ivtvctls? |
| [04:35:00] | banyan: | in your modprobe.conf? |
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| [04:36:00] | banyan: | you have to ivtvctl your /dev/video devices with 0x3000. |
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| [04:37:00] | PaulWay[w]: | greetings! |
| [04:37:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I don't suppose anyone here has any experience with cygwin? |
| [04:37:00] | PaulWay[w]: | The cygwin channel's dead as. |
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| [04:38:00] | hari_seldon99: | sorry, connection broke |
| [04:38:00] | hari_seldon99: | I don't have a /etc/modprobe.conf |
| [04:39:00] | banyan: | I've done a bit with cygwin. |
| [04:39:00] | banyan: | what kernel you running hari? |
| [04:40:00] | PaulWay[w]: | banyan: I'm trying to install PVM but it won't compile. |
| [04:40:00] | hari_seldon99: | My kernel info: Linux mythtv 2.6.11.9-chw-2 #1 SMP Sat May 14 12:11:44 CDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| [04:40:00] | PaulWay[w]: | And I'm having trouble understanding the way the Cygwin environment works. |
| [04:40:00] | banyan: | I don't know that one. |
| [04:41:00] | hari_seldon99: | do I have to run ivtvctl? |
| [04:41:00] | banyan: | quite possibly. |
| [04:41:00] | Krazylegz: | PaulWay: Are you trying to run MythTV on Cygwin? |
| [04:41:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, what flags should I use with the command? |
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| [04:42:00] | Jazbo: | Anyone here know anything at all about adjusting chroma settings? |
| [04:42:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Nonononono. |
| [04:42:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Krazylegz: I just hang out here for other MythTV stuff, and the cygwin channel is generating infinite amounts of silence. |
| [04:42:00] | banyan: | ivtvctl -d /dev/video[0|16|32|48|64] -u 0x3000 |
| [04:42:00] | PaulWay[w]: | So I'm probably breaking four or five IRC laws just by asking... :-) |
| [04:43:00] | Krazylegz: | PaulWay[w]: I used Cygwin a while back to run Rational Rose via X-forwarding on Windows from Solaris on SPARC. |
| [04:43:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, should I run it as root or normal user? |
| [04:44:00] | banyan: | Oh, paul, I found that trying to run the mythfrontend on cygwin as forwarded x was incredibly slow. |
| [04:44:00] | banyan: | Try using vnc. It's snappy with vnc. |
| [04:44:00] | hari_seldon99: | should I run it for all the device files /dev/video"n" or just the one I'm using? |
| [04:44:00] | banyan: | If that's what you're trying to d. |
| [04:44:00] | banyan: | Run it for all of em. |
| [04:45:00] | banyan: | for n in /dev/video* do; ivtvctl -d $n -u 0x3000 ; done |
| [04:45:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, here's what I got: http://pastebin.com/396082 |
| [04:47:00] | hari_seldon99: | Do I reboot or restart X? |
| [04:47:00] | banyan: | Hm, well the video devices did get set. |
| [04:47:00] | banyan: | That was successful. |
| [04:47:00] | banyan: | It proves they exist. |
| [04:47:00] | banyan: | Are you running mythfrontend? |
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| [04:49:00] | banyan: | You could try playing something. |
| [04:49:00] | hari_seldon99: | not yet, it doesn't go that far |
| [04:49:00] | hari_seldon99: | only the backend seems to be running |
| [04:49:00] | hari_seldon99: | & I can't access a local shell because the output in the monitor is frozen on some cascading text (as the referred howto says it should) |
| [04:49:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok hang on, my setup is next door, I'll see what the screen shows |
| [04:49:00] | banyan: | hm. |
| [04:49:00] | banyan: | Oh, you're running x on the 350? |
| [04:49:00] | banyan: | I don't do that personally. |
| [04:51:00] | hari_seldon99: | well, I just installed knoppmyth automatically and it's booting according to defaults |
| [04:52:00] | hari_seldon99: | There's nothing on my tv, just frozen horizontal grey bars interleaved with a frozen picture of static |
| [04:53:00] | banyan: | hmm. what if you try to view live tv? |
| [04:54:00] | didj: | whats the go with myth/fbsd, forget about it/frontend only/shweet? |
| [04:54:00] | hari_seldon99: | nothing. I turn on my tv to channel 3 (that's the channel that the RF modulator is set for) and I get nothing at all. I'm remotely logged on to the pvr from my desktop using ssh and I ran "Ps -def" & I only see the backend running, not the frontend |
| [04:56:00] | hari_seldon99: | I can access mythweb and stuff |
| [04:58:00] | hari_seldon99: | btw: before I tried to mess with the ivtv drivers, mythtv worked fine on my monitor, both frontend & backend and everything |
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| [05:04:00] | hari_seldon99: | so I ran ivtvctl, what should I do now? |
| [05:08:00] | banyan: | So really you're just having trouble with the ivtv_fb thing. |
| [05:10:00] | hari_seldon99: | I guess |
| [05:11:00] | Darby: | my guess would be your X config. I had similar problems until I got that fixed |
| [05:11:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, shall I post my XFree86Config-4? |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | the relevant section from mine is: |
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| [05:12:00] | Darby: | Section "Monitor" |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | Identifier "Television" |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | # D: 34.563 MHz, H: 37.244 kHz, V: 73.897 Hz |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | HorizSync 30–68 |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | VertRefresh 50–120 |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | Mode "720x480" |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | DotClock 34.564 |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | HTimings 720 752 840 928 |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | VTimings 480 484 488 504 |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | Flags "-Hsync" "-Vsync" |
| [05:12:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, hanf on |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | EndMode |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | EndSection |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | Section "Device" |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | Identifier "Hauppauge PVR-350" |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | Driver "ivtvdev" |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | Option "fbdev" "/dev/fb2" |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | Option "ivtv" "/dev/fb2" |
| [05:12:00] | Darby: | Option "ActiveDevice" "CRT,TV" |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | Option "TVType" "NTSC" |
| [05:13:00] | _Nero_: | whoa.. pastebin |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | BusID "PCI:00:09:0" |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | EndSection |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | Section "Screen" |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | Identifier "Hauppauge Screen" |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | Device "Hauppauge PVR-350" |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | Monitor "Television" |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | DefaultDepth 24 |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | DefaultFbbpp 32 |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | Subsection "Display" |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | Depth 24 |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | FbBpp 32 |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | Modes "720x480" |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | EndSubsection |
| [05:13:00] | _Nero_: | darby- stop flooding the channel man. |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | EndSection |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | the BusID you will need to change |
| [05:13:00] | Darby: | sorry |
| [05:13:00] | _Nero_: | www.pastebin.com is your friend.. ;) |
| [05:14:00] | Krazylegz: | Pastebin is OUR friend. :-) |
| [05:16:00] | Darby: | ok, will do. mea culpa |
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| [05:19:00] | hari_seldon99: | here's mine:http://pastebin.com/396102 |
| [05:20:00] | hari_seldon99: | The identifier names are different, and the /dev/fb thingie is different |
| [05:21:00] | Darby: | you're also missing Option "fbdev" "/dev/fb2" |
| [05:22:00] | Darby: | i have an intel that I didn't need that on but an amd I have does need it |
| [05:22:00] | hari_seldon99: | Yeah, is it /dev/fb2 always? |
| [05:22:00] | banyan: | Hm, I don't have a /dev/lirc being created when I load the lirc modules. |
| [05:23:00] | banyan: | Anybody know what the dealio with that is? |
| [05:23:00] | Darby: | no, it could be /dev/fbx where x could range |
| [05:24:00] | hari_seldon99: | In Section Device, I have Option "ivtvdev" "/dev/fb0", should I change that to Option "fbdev" "/dev/fb2" ? |
| [05:24:00] | Darby: | well, I have both |
| [05:24:00] | hari_seldon99: | Don't I need ivtvdev to be there for tv-out to work? |
| [05:25:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh |
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| [05:25:00] | Darby: | but it isn't necessarilly fb2 for you |
| [05:26:00] | hari_seldon99: | how do I know which fb is it? I saw nothing in /var/log/messages |
| [05:26:00] | hari_seldon99: | ? |
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| [05:27:00] | Faithful: | has anyone got C-Media 8738 working in 5.1 surround sound? |
| [05:28:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, I made all the changes except the correct device file for /dev/fbXX |
| [05:28:00] | hari_seldon99: | How do I figure out which one pertains to me? |
| [05:29:00] | hari_seldon99: | ls -l /dev/fb* shows /dev/fb[0–7] |
| [05:29:00] | Darby: | dmesg | grep fb gives me: ivtv-osd: fb2: iTVC15 TV out frame buffer device |
| [05:29:00] | Darby: | hence fb2 |
| [05:30:00] | hari_seldon99: | Yeah, I got fb0 |
| [05:30:00] | hari_seldon99: | ivtv-osd: fb0: iTVC15 TV out frame buffer device |
| [05:32:00] | hari_seldon99: | one other thing, I ran lspci|grep MPEG & got this:0000:02:09.0 for my BusID, so I put BUSID: PCI:01:09:0 in XF86Config-4, is that right? |
| [05:34:00] | Darby: | no, you need 02:09.0 |
| [05:34:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh, right, sorry |
| [05:34:00] | hari_seldon99: | I corrected it |
| [05:34:00] | banyan: | So, did anybody else have an issue with lircd after going from 2.6.11 to 2.6.12? I have no /dev/lirc being made. |
| [05:34:00] | hari_seldon99: | now should I reboot and test it? |
| [05:34:00] | hari_seldon99: | 'cause I'll have to move my monitor over to my pvr setup |
| [05:35:00] | Darby: | well, if it works you shouldn't need the monitor ;-) |
| [05:36:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok |
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| [05:36:00] | hari_seldon99: | I'm remotely logged in using ssh |
| [05:36:00] | hari_seldon99: | should I just do "init 2" and "init 5" or something? |
| [05:36:00] | Darby: | what distro? |
| [05:36:00] | hari_seldon99: | I have to restart X for the new config to be rendered, right? |
| [05:36:00] | Darby: | yes |
| [05:36:00] | hari_seldon99: | distro is knoppmyth, so basically debian sid |
| [05:37:00] | Darby: | oh just restarting x |
| [05:37:00] | Darby: | telinit 3 telinit 5 |
| [05:37:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok |
| [05:37:00] | hari_seldon99: | hang on |
| [05:37:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok I just ran it |
| [05:38:00] | hari_seldon99: | now I'll go check my tv |
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| [05:39:00] | hari_seldon99: | nothing |
| [05:39:00] | banyan: | On the actual machine a ctrl-alt-backspace would do it too. |
| [05:40:00] | banyan: | Or would that only restart the one display? hmm. |
| [05:40:00] | Darby: | does it have anything in your X log? |
| [05:40:00] | hari_seldon99: | hang on |
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| [05:41:00] | hari_seldon99: | last lines of log is: http://pastebin.com/396115 |
| [05:41:00] | hari_seldon99: | fatal error??? |
| [05:42:00] | Darby: | # |
| [05:42:00] | Darby: | (EE) Failed to load module "ivtvdev" (module does not exist, 0) |
| [05:42:00] | Darby: | that looks like a real problem |
| [05:42:00] | hari_seldon99: | but I compiled the module and everything |
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| [05:43:00] | Darby: | I think you might need to put it where X can find it... I forget where :-( |
| [05:43:00] | hari_seldon99: | I followed this howto when I compiled it:http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=36317#36317 |
| [05:46:00] | hari_seldon99: | it's in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ivtv_drv.o |
| [05:47:00] | Cardoe: | so then that means it's called "ivtv" and not "ivtvdev" |
| [05:48:00] | hari_seldon99: | my mistake I think |
| [05:48:00] | hari_seldon99: | I should rename it |
| [05:50:00] | hari_seldon99: | done, and I ran update-modules |
| [05:50:00] | hari_seldon99: | let's see if that'll work |
| [05:51:00] | Darby: | you can just run startx from where you are and you can see if there are errors |
| [05:52:00] | hari_seldon99: | YES, I can see a screen in my tv!!! |
| [05:52:00] | hari_seldon99: | hang on |
| [05:52:00] | Darby: | cool |
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| [05:57:00] | Webby: | Hi, I have a problem with mytv pvr |
| [05:57:00] | Webby: | I want to capture the images as jpg files and not tiff files is there anyway to do this? |
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| [06:00:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, I can get pic & sound, but I'll have to tweak the settings a bit 'cause text's a bit choppy |
| [06:06:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, thx for all your help chaps |
| [06:06:00] | hari_seldon99: | now a slightly offtopic question |
| [06:06:00] | hari_seldon99: | the time in my mythtv-box is slightly out of sync |
| [06:07:00] | hari_seldon99: | how do I set the ntp client from the shell (I've always used guis in the past) |
| [06:07:00] | Juski: | 3 magic letters... ntp |
| [06:07:00] | Juski: | ntp-update isn't it? |
| [06:07:00] | Juski: | assuming you've configured ntp that is |
| [06:07:00] | hari_seldon99: | but how do I make it do that say,every hour or something, cron? |
| [06:07:00] | Juski: | yup |
| [06:08:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh, never did that from shell either :) |
| [06:08:00] | Juski: | I doubt you'd need todo it every hour.. it shouldn't drift that much |
| [06:09:00] | Juski: | you could try webmin.. that lets you do lots of stuff you'd normally need the command line for ;) |
| [06:09:00] | hari_seldon99: | so I'll put a script in /etc/cron.daily? |
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| [06:10:00] | Juski: | hourly won't harm anything |
| [06:10:00] | Juski: | but daily would be fine I think |
| [06:10:00] | hari_seldon99: | so I do "ntpdate blah.blah.com" |
| [06:10:00] | Juski: | basically |
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| [06:11:00] | hari_seldon99: | erm: I ran ntpdate time.microsoft.com (heh) |
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| [06:11:00] | hari_seldon99: | 16 Oct 23:16:42 ntpdate[5003]: can't find host time.microsoft.com |
| [06:11:00] | hari_seldon99: | 16 Oct 23:16:42 ntpdate[5003]: no servers can be used, exiting |
| [06:13:00] | hari_seldon99: | it got fscked!!! |
| [06:13:00] | hari_seldon99: | ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
| [06:13:00] | hari_seldon99: | Mon Oct 17 04:12:52 UTC 2005 |
| [06:13:00] | hari_seldon99: | It's 11:13 pm here!!! |
| [06:14:00] | Juski: | hmmm |
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| [06:17:00] | hari_seldon99: | I reset it using "date -s" but how do I make it stick? |
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| [06:24:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, I think I've set it okay |
| [06:24:00] | jnc: | hari_seldon99: /etc/localtime symlink |
| [06:25:00] | jnc: | i think |
| [06:25:00] | hari_seldon99: | symlink to what? |
| [06:25:00] | hari_seldon99: | ya |
| [06:25:00] | jnc: | YOUR MOM! |
| [06:25:00] | jnc: | no really, it's /usr/share/zoneinfo/* |
| [06:25:00] | hari_seldon99: | it's linked to /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago |
| [06:25:00] | Juski: | symlink it to your local timezone |
| [06:25:00] | hari_seldon99: | Which is correct |
| [06:25:00] | jnc: | that should be okay then |
| [06:26:00] | jnc: | the only other thing i can think of is that your time is so far off that ntpdate is puking |
| [06:26:00] | Juski: | it's far too early for me to be up.. got work in 2.5 hours... man these early nights suck |
| [06:26:00] | hari_seldon99: | it drifted again |
| [06:26:00] | jnc: | your date must be manually set to within a few days of the current date and time, or ntpdate screws up |
| [06:26:00] | hari_seldon99: | the real time is 11:26, and "date" shows 11:25 |
| [06:26:00] | hari_seldon99: | It shouldn't drift by that much or I'll not be able to record tv accurately |
| [06:26:00] | hari_seldon99: | so I'm worried |
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| [06:27:00] | Juski: | be glad you don't live in the UK then |
| [06:27:00] | Juski: | I sometimes miss the end of shows coz they start 2 hours late |
| [06:27:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh |
| [06:27:00] | hari_seldon99: | poor brits :) |
| [06:28:00] | Juski: | commercial channels are great for timing.. sadly there's not much worth watching on em |
| [06:28:00] | Juski: | nah it's generally ok |
| [06:28:00] | hari_seldon99: | that's true here in the colonies also |
| [06:29:00] | Juski: | got my time set by ntp and the start of shows is normally bang on for the start of the titles |
| [06:29:00] | Juski: | but when they're late.. oh boy are they ever late lol |
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| [06:30:00] | Lepis: | I no longer have sound when recording my programs. If I watch Live TV I have sound, however it doesn't have sound when viewing recorded programs. |
| [06:31:00] | Lepis: | The threads dealt with more No sound at all problems |
| [06:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Lepis: What if you pause for a few seconds and then unpause? |
| [06:31:00] | Lepis: | let me try |
| [06:31:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, I put a script in cron.daily that'll run ntpdate with a nearby ntp server |
| [06:31:00] | Lepis: | nope 5 sec pause |
| [06:31:00] | hari_seldon99: | seems to work okay |
| [06:32:00] | hari_seldon99: | hey one question |
| [06:32:00] | Lepis: | no sound |
| [06:32:00] | Lepis: | this just started Wednesday |
| [06:32:00] | Lepis: | the only thing tha i can think of that i did was I attempted to view a program while it was recording |
| [06:32:00] | Lepis: | since that point on no sound on any recordings that i do from Wednesday on |
| [06:33:00] | hari_seldon99: | my remote doesn't work in knoppmyth |
| [06:33:00] | hari_seldon99: | it's a hauppauge grey remote, and knoppmyth's supposed to work with it by dflt |
| [06:34:00] | Juski: | hari_seldon99: you probably need to use irw to record your remote |
| [06:34:00] | hari_seldon99: | how do I do that? run irw and calibrate it or something? |
| [06:34:00] | Juski: | then alter lircd.conf, then edit your lircrc file.. that should do it (assuming the remote works) |
| [06:35:00] | Juski: | nah – irw is a 'learning' program |
| [06:35:00] | Krazylegz: | Lepis: Are you sure that the recordings have been recorded with sound? |
| [06:35:00] | Juski: | you basically use it to learn every IR key |
| [06:36:00] | hari_seldon99: | The thing is, /etc/lircd.conf is already written up for the hauppauge grey remote |
| [06:36:00] | Lepis: | no honestly i can't say if they were or not |
| [06:36:00] | Juski: | hari: is lircd running? |
| [06:36:00] | Lepis: | it just happened I did not change anything. However i know that you have to do something generally to make linux hate you |
| [06:37:00] | hari_seldon99: | daneel@mythtv:~$ ps -ef|grep lirc |
| [06:37:00] | hari_seldon99: | root 2244 1 0 21:05 ? 00:01:30 [lirc_dev] |
| [06:37:00] | hari_seldon99: | root 2249 1 0 21:05 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/lircd --driver=default --device=/dev/lirc |
| [06:37:00] | hari_seldon99: | root 2251 1 0 21:05 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/lircmd |
| [06:37:00] | hari_seldon99: | daneel 5362 5342 0 23:37 ttyp0 00:00:00 grep lirc |
| [06:37:00] | hari_seldon99: | daneel@mythtv:~$ |
| [06:37:00] | hari_seldon99: | seems to be running |
| [06:38:00] | Juski: | hari_seldon99: try stopping it, for now, then do cat /dev/lirc |
| [06:38:00] | hari_seldon99: | how do I stop it? |
| [06:38:00] | hari_seldon99: | service lircd stop? |
| [06:38:00] | Juski: | hari_seldon99: point your remote at the receiver and press buttons... you should see lots of junk |
| [06:39:00] | Lepis: | any suggestions |
| [06:39:00] | Juski: | I dunno, hari_seldon99 |
| [06:39:00] | Lepis: | if i play the video in mplayer |
| [06:39:00] | Lepis: | there is no sound |
| [06:39:00] | Lepis: | but how in the world would it do that |
| [06:39:00] | Lepis: | i have a 500 series Happ |
| [06:39:00] | Lepis: | cuase one of the tuners gone bad? |
| [06:39:00] | Lepis: | but you would think that i would lose video and sound |
| [06:39:00] | Juski: | I doubt that, Lepis |
| [06:40:00] | Lepis: | should i just rerun setup? |
| [06:40:00] | Juski: | you tried reloading ivtv? |
| [06:40:00] | Lepis: | no |
| [06:40:00] | Lepis: | think i should go that route? |
| [06:40:00] | Juski: | I mean unload the ivtv modules... then reload em |
| [06:41:00] | Lepis: | not sure how to unload them |
| [06:41:00] | Juski: | put it this way.. have you tried rebooting yet? |
| [06:41:00] | Lepis: | i could restart :) |
| [06:41:00] | Lepis: | fine ill reboot |
| [06:41:00] | Lepis: | :) |
| [06:41:00] | Lepis: | how often should you reboot the machine? |
| [06:41:00] | Juski: | I suspect though that sound hasn't been recorded for the shows that don't have sound |
| [06:42:00] | Lepis: | i don't think it has either |
| [06:42:00] | Juski: | Lepis: as little as possible |
| [06:42:00] | Lepis: | well i wouldn't think a weekly or monthly reboot would hurt |
| [06:42:00] | Lepis: | if you have the services set to init on boot |
| [06:42:00] | Fosten: | Lepis: what distro are you using? |
| [06:42:00] | Lepis: | Core 4 |
| [06:42:00] | Juski: | I've got 32 days uptime since the last restart – and that was just to clean behind the pc |
| [06:42:00] | Lepis: | don't have much time otherwise |
| [06:43:00] | Lepis: | i need to brush up my unix skill some more before i move off of it |
| [06:43:00] | Lepis: | debian is where i think i would like to go |
| [06:43:00] | Juski: | anyway hari_seldon99... where you up to now? |
| [06:45:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Lepis: I'd stick to Fedora, personally – debian has too many different ways of doing things in my (limited) experience. |
| [06:46:00] | Fosten: | Lepis: i would suggest reloading ivtv |
| [06:46:00] | Lepis: | ugh no sound at all now |
| [06:49:00] | Lepis: | i just did a yum install ivtv |
| [06:49:00] | Lepis: | that should reinstall won't it |
| [06:50:00] | Lepis: | what version is ivtv up to now |
| [06:50:00] | Lepis: | is 3.X still in testing phase |
| [06:52:00] | Lepis: | oh gez |
| [06:52:00] | Lepis: | we are up to 4.0 |
| [06:56:00] | jnc: | Lepis: debian rocks your boxers |
| [06:57:00] | Lepis: | okay i just upgraded to 4.x |
| [06:57:00] | Lepis: | still no sound |
| [06:57:00] | Lepis: | suggestions |
| [06:59:00] | Lepis: | i know :( |
| [06:59:00] | jnc: | 4.what? |
| [06:59:00] | ** jnc blinks ** | |
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| [07:00:00] | Krazylegz: | jnc: ivtv 0.4.0. |
| [07:00:00] | Lepis: | smack! |
| [07:00:00] | jnc: | oh :( |
| [07:01:00] | Lepis: | yeah i was surprized too |
| [07:01:00] | Lepis: | i had to get a small kernal update too |
| [07:02:00] | jnc: | i'm stuck with two ATI TV Wonder VE bttv cards |
| [07:02:00] | jnc: | pieces of crap |
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| [07:02:00] | awesome: | has anyone tried using mythburn? |
| [07:03:00] | awesome: | http://sourceforge.net/projects/mythburn |
| [07:03:00] | awesome: | ?? |
| [07:03:00] | awesome: | any opinions? |
| [07:03:00] | Lepis: | ha sound! |
| [07:04:00] | Lepis: | no sound on the recordings tho |
| [07:04:00] | Lepis: | piss |
| [07:05:00] | awesome: | ah, you serious? |
| [07:05:00] | Lepis: | doesn't look like it was init the sound |
| [07:05:00] | Lepis: | it happens |
| [07:05:00] | Lepis: | but i got 4.x baby |
| [07:05:00] | jnc: | awesome: i'll take a look |
| [07:05:00] | awesome: | oh, right. you not talking about mythburn. |
| [07:05:00] | Lepis: | you can't go wrongwith 4.x |
| [07:05:00] | djperegrine: | BOOM HEADSHOT |
| [07:05:00] | awesome: | hehe. |
| [07:08:00] | banyan: | So, did anybody else have an issue with lircd after going from 2.6.11 to 2.6.12? I have no /dev/lirc being made. |
| [07:09:00] | jnc: | banyan: yeah |
| [07:09:00] | jnc: | try /dev/lirc0 |
| [07:09:00] | jnc: | if you're on a debian box anyhow |
| [07:10:00] | Lepis: | sound fixed |
| [07:10:00] | Lepis: | thanks guys for the advice |
| [07:10:00] | Lepis: | playing live and recorded tv |
| [07:11:00] | jnc: | yay |
| [07:11:00] | jnc: | what hardware for the tv capture? |
| [07:13:00] | Lepis: | mine is Happ 500 |
| [07:13:00] | banyan: | Mine is fc3 currently. |
| [07:14:00] | banyan: | I see the socket as /dev/lircd if that's what an ls -l of "srw-rw-rw" means — socket... |
| [07:14:00] | banyan: | I kinda thought that the socket used to be created in /tmp but I could be wrong. |
| [07:16:00] | Lepis: | i thought that was the sticky bit |
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| [07:19:00] | banyan: | t is the sticky bit. |
| [07:20:00] | PaulWay[w]: | s is a socket. |
| [07:20:00] | geoff_: | anyone compile mythplugins recently? |
| [07:21:00] | banyan: | OK, so it creates a socket called /dev/lircd but /dev/lirc is missing. |
| [07:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, are you around ATM? |
| [07:22:00] | Cardoe: | kinda |
| [07:22:00] | banyan: | jnc — can you ls -l your /dev/lirc? |
| [07:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, if your busy I will just wait |
| [07:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I been dealing with this for months so I am not worried |
| [07:23:00] | banyan: | or, ideally, can somebody using lirc on fc3 or 4 and the 2.6.12 kernel do an ls -l of /dev/lirc? |
| [07:24:00] | Cardoe: | what's up? |
| [07:25:00] | banyan: | pththth. Never mind. It just needed a symbolic link of /dev/lirc0 to /dev/lirc. That's *lame*. |
| [07:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, I found a intersting thing about the crashing |
| [07:25:00] | Cardoe: | oh? |
| [07:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I havent had time to recompile with gdb |
| [07:26:00] | ** Juski is back on the dbox mission again (impossible?) ** | |
| [07:26:00] | banyan: | ahhh! Much better. My remote works now! |
| [07:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if I play a recording then exit out of the video then exit out of that screen then enter recorded videos and play another it works |
| [07:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if I dont exit out of the menu and just try to play another recording it crashes |
| [07:27:00] | geoff_: | anyone a myth gallery expert? |
| [07:27:00] | jnc: | banyan: you could edit the config file and specify lirc0 man |
| [07:27:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer: what hardware? |
| [07:27:00] | Juski: | in what way, geoff_ ? |
| [07:27:00] | banyan: | oh. |
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| [07:27:00] | jnc: | SlicerDicer-: are you running CVS? |
| [07:27:00] | Juski: | jnc – I was gonna say that ;) |
| [07:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | jnc, nay |
| [07:27:00] | geoff_: | well when I do a slide show, it always uses the first folder no matter which one I have selected |
| [07:28:00] | Goshen: | Getting this hauppauge 878 bttv card to output sound in mythtv is killing me |
| [07:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, 1.4ghz AMD, PVR350 using nvidia for tv out though |
| [07:28:00] | Goshen: | sound works fine with tvtime |
| [07:28:00] | Cardoe: | hrm |
| [07:28:00] | geoff_: | I'm wondering if this is a mac specific bug or if I am just doing something wrong |
| [07:28:00] | Juski: | never tried slideshows, geoff_ |
| [07:28:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer: what was the point of getting the pvr350 then. ;) |
| [07:28:00] | Goshen: | I have an audio cable running from the bttv card to the sound card |
| [07:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, I would use it if the screen was not green :) |
| [07:28:00] | jnc: | Juski: :) |
| [07:28:00] | Goshen: | and I have the recording button checked in the mixer |
| [07:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I cant figure out how to make it work |
| [07:28:00] | jnc: | Juski: too bad cvs is all f'd upt |
| [07:28:00] | Goshen: | but no audio in mythtv |
| [07:28:00] | Cardoe: | Goshen: did you use the loopback wire? |
| [07:28:00] | Goshen: | I have an audio cable running from the bttv card to the sound card |
| [07:28:00] | Cardoe: | Goshen: did you try snd-bt8xx |
| [07:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, everytime I tried to use the TV out on the PVR-350 the screen turns green |
| [07:29:00] | Cardoe: | Goshen: turn on capture for the input? |
| [07:29:00] | Goshen: | I read about snd-bt8xx |
| [07:29:00] | Goshen: | how do I load that in mandriva 2006? |
| [07:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anyway Cardoe how can I locate all the deps for mythtv so I can rebuild them maybe thats the issue? |
| [07:29:00] | jnc: | i think everyone should watch Systm episode where they set up mythtv |
| [07:29:00] | Juski: | LOL |
| [07:29:00] | jnc: | it cleared up a lot of confusion for me |
| [07:29:00] | Juski: | yeh they did it in like 10 minutes |
| [07:29:00] | banyan: | jnc, got the line handy? Is that in lircd.conf? |
| [07:30:00] | jnc: | especially when they named the input source "Zap2It" |
| [07:30:00] | jnc: | i was like "ohhh... no shit!?" |
| [07:30:00] | banyan: | And if so, why can't the kernel read the same ***** file and use the same socket? |
| [07:30:00] | jnc: | previously i had many input sources, for each day of the week |
| [07:30:00] | banyan: | just a silly question. |
| [07:30:00] | Goshen: | Cardoe: /lib/modules/2.6.12–12mdk/kernel/sound/pci/snd-bt87x.ko.gz |
| [07:30:00] | Goshen: | [root@Zeus ~]# modprobe snd-bt87x |
| [07:30:00] | jnc: | banyan: you're on a debian system ya? |
| [07:30:00] | Goshen: | it didn't report any errors |
| [07:30:00] | banyan: | fc3 |
| [07:30:00] | Goshen: | let me see if that gives sound |
| [07:31:00] | jnc: | banyan: huh. well i don't know man |
| [07:31:00] | banyan: | Does it go into the same file as the remote setup? |
| [07:31:00] | jnc: | eh? |
| [07:31:00] | Goshen: | Cardoe: no sound using the module |
| [07:31:00] | jnc: | on the debian system i did up, if i installed the lircd modules package, it created /dev/lirc |
| [07:32:00] | jnc: | then after a reboot, /dev/lirc was gone and there was lirc0 |
| [07:33:00] | banyan: | I had the same experience. |
| [07:33:00] | jnc: | must be something to do with udev or lirc or both |
| [07:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, I think its a issue with my deps :/ |
| [07:33:00] | jnc: | anyhow, on debian the config files for lirc stuff is all in /dev/lirc/* |
| [07:34:00] | banyan: | Oh. |
| [07:34:00] | jnc: | err |
| [07:34:00] | jnc: | damn i'm a whore today |
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| [07:34:00] | jnc: | banyan: i meant to say /etc/lirc/* |
| [07:35:00] | Goshen: | This sound is driving me nuts, the sound works fine in tvtime |
| [07:35:00] | banyan: | hmm. |
| [07:35:00] | Goshen: | Cardoe: when you say turn on capture for the input, you are talking about in the mixer right? |
| [07:35:00] | banyan: | Yeah, lircd.conf has all the configurations for the buttons. |
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| [07:38:00] | Cardoe: | Goshen: yes |
| [07:39:00] | Goshen: | Cardoe: yes, I clicked on the red button under capture, and red button under aux-which is where the cable from the card is plugged in |
| [07:39:00] | Goshen: | I tried alsamixer as well |
| [07:42:00] | Goshen: | What card should I get for digital cable? |
| [07:42:00] | Goshen: | don't really need HD |
| [07:44:00] | FITH: | Wow... this compile goes a lot smoother when you pay attention to the docs :) |
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| [07:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, I got off my butt and am getting the decoder working |
| [07:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [07:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thanks for bothering me about it and calling me basicly a idiot :) |
| [07:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and I am serious I am glad I am doing it |
| [07:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the video quality looks great so far |
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| [08:01:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I know this is OT, but has anyone here any experience with PVM? |
| [08:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Dude. :-) |
| [08:03:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I've got PVM compiled (after wrestling with some type definitions in its xpm library) |
| [08:03:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer: sorry. but hey.. at least it's going :) |
| [08:03:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Krazylegz: I'm going to get this thing working whether it likes it or not!!! |
| [08:03:00] | mchou: | haha, I used to work on PVM and mpich |
| [08:04:00] | Krazylegz: | I haven't looked into PVM. How does it compare to Condor? |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | havent looked into Condor, so cant say. |
| [08:05:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I think Condor uses PVM |
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| [08:06:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Condor acts as a resource manager for PVM – it works out where to run the slaves and that sort of stuff. |
| [08:06:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Although that's probably simplifying things a lot. |
| [08:09:00] | mchou: | my mythbackend panicked last night (for the 1st time ever) and I dont know why. |
| [08:09:00] | mchou: | been running two yrs straight w/o problem. |
| [08:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, hehe I was just lazy |
| [08:10:00] | banyan: | anyone using fad as in find-a-drug? |
| [08:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, I hate to change anything that is working cause of fear of breaking it lol |
| [08:10:00] | mchou: | I'm suspecting ivtv 4.0 though, last thing I updated |
| [08:10:00] | geoff_: | hmmmm anyone know how to find the version of an installed library other than using pkg-config? |
| [08:11:00] | banyan: | mine won't continue after my last reboot. |
| [08:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, I havent gotten it to boot up yet with the mythfrontend but I am working on it :) I just piped video too it |
| [08:11:00] | Cardoe: | cool |
| [08:11:00] | Cardoe: | yeah my ppc box.. |
| [08:11:00] | Cardoe: | I've got it to record |
| [08:11:00] | Cardoe: | no video on the screen yet |
| [08:11:00] | Cardoe: | and X forwarding seems broken |
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| [08:11:00] | Cardoe: | so I can't run mythsetup remotely. |
| [08:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | do you know offhand what the driver is in gentoo for the pvr350? |
| [08:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Identifier "Hauppauge PVR 350 iTVC15 Framebuffer" |
| [08:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Driver "ivtvdev" |
| [08:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats what I had put down but its not ivtvdev |
| [08:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I guess the howto I was reading is wrong :/ |
| [08:17:00] | Juski: | banyan... looking for the avian flu vaccine? |
| [08:17:00] | Juski: | ;) |
| [08:17:00] | PaulWay[w]: | conf |
| [08:17:00] | PaulWay[w]: | curse, wrong window. |
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| [08:23:00] | awesome: | awesome |
| [08:23:00] | awesome: | n like stuff. |
| [08:23:00] | PaulWay[w]: | as the name suggests. |
| [08:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, hey! |
| [08:23:00] | awesome: | indeed |
| [08:23:00] | awesome: | i'm bored |
| [08:23:00] | awesome: | anyway |
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| [08:24:00] | awesome: | any aussies here have a recomendation on what dbt card to get? |
| [08:24:00] | Juski: | dbt? |
| [08:24:00] | Juski: | dvb-t you mean? |
| [08:24:00] | awesome: | errrr, |
| [08:24:00] | awesome: | digital card |
| [08:24:00] | awesome: | that's the one |
| [08:24:00] | Juski: | get a PCI one ;) |
| [08:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | awesome, maybe the pchdtv.com card will work? |
| [08:24:00] | PaulWay[w]: | awesome: AVerMedia DVB-T |
| [08:24:00] | awesome: | yeah, ah.. tahnks. |
| [08:24:00] | awesome: | real handy |
| [08:25:00] | awesome: | which one PaulWay the 771? |
| [08:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | awesome, you get SBS, and stuff in HDTV over the air maybe that will work? |
| [08:25:00] | Juski: | seriously tho – if you can locate one, Leadtek LR6650 is very good |
| [08:25:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Yeah, the 771. |
| [08:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I think they are ASTC |
| [08:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | awesome, just a thought :) |
| [08:25:00] | awesome: | 771 have been replaced by the 777 |
| [08:25:00] | awesome: | and afaik you can not get teh 771 anymore |
| [08:25:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Can only be better. |
| [08:25:00] | Juski: | I've got 3 lr6650 cards on the go right now.. all bought for less than £25 each :) |
| [08:26:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I'm using that and a TwinHan card and I think the AVerMedia gets better SNR. |
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| [08:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | awesome, you know ten, 7, sbs, 9 , abc are all on HDTV so why not use that? |
| [08:26:00] | Juski: | I get SNR of FFFF |
| [08:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | awesome, thats assuming you dont have foxtel or somthing |
| [08:26:00] | PaulWay[w]: | awesome: I wouldn't worry too much which card you get. |
| [08:26:00] | awesome: | ah, yeah, foxtel is needed |
| [08:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | awesome, if you have foxtel that card may work I dont know |
| [08:26:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Just check that it uses a BT848 driver and does HDTV. |
| [08:27:00] | Juski: | PaulWay: some cards are more sensitive than others – depends on the tuner |
| [08:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | awesome, I know australia is on PAL so it may mess that hdtv card up |
| [08:27:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I've got HDTV working on both those cards. |
| [08:27:00] | PaulWay[w]: | What's a good way to check if I'm using the MPEG2 decoding hardware on an nVidia card? |
| [08:27:00] | Juski: | I've heard of cases where DVB-T reception is great on a set top box.. then when it comes to the PCI card there's not enough signal :( |
| [08:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey mchou you around? |
| [08:28:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I had some aerial guys come over and check the signal setup thoroughly and replace everything that wasn't good. |
| [08:28:00] | PaulWay[w]: | The aerial was basically held together with bird crap and rust. |
| [08:28:00] | Juski: | PaulWay: did you compile mythtv with xvmc? if not, you won't be using it |
| [08:28:00] | PaulWay[w]: | And there were several very dodgy joins that I'd put in. |
| [08:28:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Juski: I just did 'yum install mythtv-suite' |
| [08:29:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Do I have to actually compile the mythfrontend by hand now? Arrghghghh! |
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| [08:29:00] | Juski: | try looking under utils/setup.. then tv.. playback... there's an option to turn xvmc on & off |
| [08:30:00] | awesome: | wait this hd-3000 doesn't support pal |
| [08:31:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Righto, thanks Juski! |
| [08:32:00] | jnc: | does hd-3000 also do regular NTSC capture for normal TV ? |
| [08:32:00] | jnc: | not HDTV |
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| [08:35:00] | Juski: | right time to go to work |
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| [08:41:00] | banyan: | so long and thanks for all the fish guyzzzz! |
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| [08:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey is anybody familiar with pvr-350 and the decoder? I am trying to figure out what driver I need to get the ivtv-fb working.... |
| [08:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I tried ivtvdev as many howto's say but I dont seem to have it on gentoo so I dont really know what to do if gentoo names it something else or what... |
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| [08:53:00] | ** eiggirC searches – I think theres a password mismatch between my mysql server and mythtv ** | |
| [08:53:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: what's up dude |
| [08:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, I am just wondering if you know how to do ivtvdev driver? |
| [08:54:00] | mchou: | like? |
| [08:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I am trying to get the decoder on the pvr350 working haha |
| [08:55:00] | mchou: | ivtv-fb is your friend :) |
| [08:55:00] | mchou: | and so is the decoder firmware |
| [08:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no wonder I cant find it lol |
| [08:57:00] | mchou: | cant find what? |
| [08:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the driver for X |
| [08:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its not in the ivtv sources |
| [08:57:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [08:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | derrr /me smacks forehead |
| [08:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its been put elsewhere |
| [08:57:00] | mchou: | ivtv-fb |
| [08:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no |
| [08:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ivtvdev |
| [08:57:00] | mchou: | huh?? |
| [08:57:00] | mchou: | wth is ivtvdev? |
| [08:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ivtv-fb is not the driver to use in xorg.conf |
| [08:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/xdriver/0.10.6/ |
| [08:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that |
| [08:58:00] | mchou: | ok, fair enough :) |
| [08:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :) |
| [09:02:00] | Cardoe: | you need ivtv-fb for the framebuffer |
| [09:02:00] | Cardoe: | but xdriver is the driver for X |
| [09:02:00] | Cardoe: | If I can get some time. |
| [09:02:00] | Cardoe: | I'm gonna merge that into real X |
| [09:02:00] | Cardoe: | well X 7.0 |
| [09:02:00] | Cardoe: | it'll end up in 6.9 by chance |
| [09:02:00] | Cardoe: | but it'll be better for 7.0 |
| [09:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [09:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am building it myself Cardoe |
| [09:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | maybe... |
| [09:05:00] | eiggirC: | I'm trying to get my frontend working... it seems to not be able to connect to the mythtv database |
| [09:05:00] | eiggirC: | how would I test this? |
| [09:05:00] | eiggirC: | I don't want to run the front end on the backend host |
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| [09:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, that will be awesome though |
| [09:06:00] | eiggirC: | mysql mythtv@mythbox:mythconverg <-- doesn't work |
| [09:06:00] | eiggirC: | ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| [09:06:00] | eiggirC: | what am I doing wrong? |
| [09:07:00] | Cardoe: | eiggirC: what distro? |
| [09:07:00] | eiggirC: | Cardoe: debian on both machines |
| [09:07:00] | Cardoe: | try.. |
| [09:07:00] | Cardoe: | mysql_secure_installation |
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| [09:07:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [09:07:00] | Cardoe: | just edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| [09:07:00] | Cardoe: | and put a # infront of "skip-networking" |
| [09:07:00] | Cardoe: | and restart mysql |
| [09:07:00] | eiggirC: | on the frontend or the backend ? |
| [09:07:00] | eiggirC: | right gotcha |
| [09:07:00] | Cardoe: | where ever mysql is installed |
| [09:08:00] | eiggirC: | hmmm |
| [09:08:00] | eiggirC: | Cardoe: it seems that skip-networking doesn't exist anymore, and that bind-address is whats used |
| [09:08:00] | eiggirC: | bind-address = 127.0.0.1 10.28.1.4 |
| [09:09:00] | Cardoe: | just comment it out |
| [09:10:00] | eiggirC: | 2005-10–17 20:05:05.129 Connecting to backend server: 10.28.1.4:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
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| [09:11:00] | eiggirC: | works from itself, but not from another machine on the network |
| [09:11:00] | Cardoe: | well it shouldn't try to connect through a socket. |
| [09:11:00] | Cardoe: | it should be trying to connect via TCP/IP |
| [09:11:00] | eiggirC: | okay so its a fromntend problem |
| [09:11:00] | Cardoe: | Do you have the "mythbox" in /etc/hosts on the frontend? |
| [09:11:00] | eiggirC: | nope – its in my local DNS server. |
| [09:11:00] | Cardoe: | is mythbox the one where your mysql install is? |
| [09:12:00] | eiggirC: | it resolves fine |
| [09:12:00] | eiggirC: | yes |
| [09:12:00] | Cardoe: | mythbox resolves to what? |
| [09:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hell yeah I got it Cardoe :) |
| [09:12:00] | eiggirC: | 10.28.1.4 |
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| [09:12:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer: no green? |
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| [09:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no GreyFoxx |
| [09:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | oops |
| [09:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no green |
| [09:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [09:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hit the wrong key |
| [09:14:00] | eiggirC: | Cardoe: this works.... mysql -h mythbox -u mythtv -p |
| [09:14:00] | Cardoe: | cool |
| [09:15:00] | eiggirC: | so the front end is having issues connecting to the sql server |
| [09:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, I am worried about my timings though |
| [09:15:00] | eiggirC: | *smack* |
| [09:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know my htimings on my tv |
| [09:15:00] | Cardoe: | eiggirC: that command works from the frontend? |
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| [09:16:00] | eiggirC: | Cardoe: yes, it does |
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| [09:18:00] | eiggirC: | Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'thionite-wl.criggie.dyndns.org' (using password: NO) |
| [09:18:00] | eiggirC: | Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading MySQL client |
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| [09:18:00] | eiggirC: | WTF? they're the same version! |
| [09:19:00] | laga: | jusk1: UID0 is bad for you |
| [09:20:00] | eiggirC: | is the password field in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt encrypted ? |
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| [09:22:00] | jusk1: | laga.. eh? |
| [09:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, do you have a 350? |
| [09:23:00] | Cardoe: | nope |
| [09:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh |
| [09:23:00] | Cardoe: | 150 & 250 |
| [09:23:00] | Cardoe: | might be getting a 500 |
| [09:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [09:23:00] | Cardoe: | for help in development |
| [09:23:00] | Cardoe: | :) |
| [09:23:00] | eiggirC: | a 500 is just two 150s on the same card, isn't it? |
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| [09:24:00] | Cardoe: | yes |
| [09:24:00] | Cardoe: | but there's some tricks that need to be done to make it work |
| [09:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, I cant figure out why quite a bit of the image is cutoff on the decoder output |
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| [09:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it must be overscan eh? |
| [09:25:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
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| [09:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Option "TVOverScan" "0.6" |
| [09:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I would set something like that eh? |
| [09:26:00] | Cardoe: | try it |
| [09:27:00] | juski: | SlicerDicer.. depends on what version the driver is.. I found 7667 would ignore the setting so I had to use nvidia-settings instead |
| [09:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | juski, I aint using nvidia for output |
| [09:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am using my PVR-350 |
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| [09:28:00] | juski: | oopsie lol |
| [09:28:00] | ** juski keeps his big gob shut from now on ** | |
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| [09:30:00] | banyan: | Hmm, my computer froze up. So far I'm not having great luck with 2.6.12. |
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| [09:32:00] | banyan: | What's the appropriate method for loading the lirc modules automatically on startup? 2.6.12 does automatically load ivtv but it doesn't load the lirc modules. |
| [09:35:00] | ** juski just googled on the error message a compilation spits out & got http://fr.pastebin.ca/11465 ** | |
| [09:36:00] | juski: | could someone have a look at that pastbin for me and give me an impression of what might be wrong? |
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| [09:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nah Cardoe that was not what I needed |
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| [09:56:00] | eiggirC: | note to self... mythfrontend -display remotemachine:0 is a BAD IDEA |
| [09:57:00] | banyan: | why's that? |
| [09:58:00] | eiggirC: | cos it crashed the backend machine :-\ |
| [09:58:00] | eiggirC: | I only have a P3 866 and a crap lifeview frame grabber card |
| [09:59:00] | banyan: | wow, I have no idea why that would happen. |
| [09:59:00] | laga: | it shouldn't happen. |
| [09:59:00] | eiggirC: | I'm getting all sorts of weirdness |
| [09:59:00] | eiggirC: | Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading MySQL client |
| [10:00:00] | eiggirC: | thats from running mythfrontend |
| [10:00:00] | eiggirC: | the same thing happens when I run mythfrontend on the backend machine directly |
| [10:00:00] | laga: | iirc, you get some help when you google this error messagr |
| [10:01:00] | eiggirC: | okay cheers |
| [10:01:00] | eiggirC: | I should put in some more research first, is what you're hinting :))) |
| [10:01:00] | laga: | no, i know for a fact that you get the solution there ;) |
| [10:02:00] | eiggirC: | "check mythtv's docs how to use mysql 4.1.x" |
| [10:02:00] | eiggirC: | thats the answer |
| [10:04:00] | juski: | laga... any idea what's causing the problem in the pastebin I posted earlier? I googled on the compilation error & came up with someone else's pastebin |
| [10:05:00] | laga: | juski: lol. i've googled for an error message my printer gives me 5 minutes ago, and the guy who had the same problem even used the same host name for his machine ;) |
| [10:06:00] | laga: | juski: darn, that's not someone else's pastebin, that's mine! |
| [10:06:00] | laga: | this world is small. |
| [10:07:00] | stoffel: | problem compiling mythplugins? |
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| [10:07:00] | laga: | |
| [10:07:00] | laga: | juski: are you using a recent svn checkout? |
| [10:07:00] | juski: | nope... it's to compile against 0.18 |
| [10:08:00] | juski: | YOUR pastebin ?! sheesh |
| [10:08:00] | laga: | laga@styx ;) |
| [10:08:00] | juski: | ahh that shoulda given it away |
| [10:08:00] | juski: | I'm logged in over a vnc connection so screen updates are a bit sluggish |
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| [10:10:00] | laga: | actually... i dont know how i fixed it, i probably had to add an include or something. are you using levon's latest patch? |
| [10:10:00] | juski: | I'm almost certain this patch compiled cleanly against 0,18 before |
| [10:10:00] | juski: | it's the only patch (the earliest) I can find which applies cleanly |
| [10:11:00] | juski: | it's not possible the file for mythtv source has changed since is it? |
| [10:11:00] | laga: | yeah, right. i remember the problem..oh well, i don't know what distro i was on. this machine is 'mythfoo' which doesn't exist anymore |
| [10:11:00] | laga: | juski: nope. |
| [10:11:00] | juski: | hmmm must be a dependant package then |
| [10:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, well.... |
| [10:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | using the PVR-350 decoder seems to have stopped mythfrontend from crashing |
| [10:12:00] | ** SlicerDicer- cheers ** | |
| [10:12:00] | laga: | juski: i know that it worked fine for levon but it broke on my machine due to a missing include. i'm sure this has been mentioned in an email somewhere |
| [10:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cpu(s): 0.0% us, 0.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 99.7% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si |
| [10:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | |
| [10:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats toally awesome for using the decoder on the PVR |
| [10:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I love it :) |
| [10:16:00] | laga: | tried mythgame yet? :> |
| [10:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe no |
| [10:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I just cannot am amazed at the image quality of the PVR-350 output |
| [10:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | bah |
| [10:17:00] | banyan: | It's pretty good? |
| [10:17:00] | banyan: | Mine's pretty good. |
| [10:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 2 trains of thought run together make for bad sentences |
| [10:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [10:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anyway yeah its damn good compared to nvidia card |
| [10:18:00] | banyan: | anyone know how to get rid of recordings that I manually deleted the nuv files for? |
| [10:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | banyan, press D on the listing in recorded programs? |
| [10:18:00] | banyan: | Do I just have to remove the entries in the recordings table? |
| [10:19:00] | banyan: | nope, that doesn't work. I think it craps out because it can't delete the file since it doesn't exist. |
| [10:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well spoof the file then :) |
| [10:19:00] | PaulWay: | banyan: you can fool it by touching the file name again. |
| [10:20:00] | PaulWay: | But it's better to delete the file through the front end. |
| [10:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | aye PaulWay |
| [10:20:00] | banyan: | true but I could only ssh in remotely and I noticed I had zero drive space left. |
| [10:20:00] | PaulWay: | banyan: the mythfrontend log will show which file wasn't able to be removed. |
| [10:21:00] | banyan: | So I eliminated some crap I didn't really care to watch anyway, transferred some files to my local laptop and watched them there... |
| [10:21:00] | PaulWay: | banyan: I'm letting you off this once ... :-) |
| [10:21:00] | banyan: | Or I could delete from recordings where (something or other) could I not? |
| [10:21:00] | ** juski got distracted with work ** | |
| [10:22:00] | PaulWay: | Yeah, banyan, that'll also work. |
| [10:22:00] | PaulWay: | But for the two-in-one cleaning action... |
| [10:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol PaulWay letting him off :P |
| [10:24:00] | juski: | laga.. trying ./configure --enable-dvb --enable-dvb-eit |
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| [10:30:00] | laga: | bah, work |
| [10:32:00] | banyan: | there, that bit of housekeeping's done. |
| [10:32:00] | banyan: | Now if I can get through a few days without another freeze-up! That was weird. I've had a few of those with 2.6.12 but I thought they were mainly due to a flaky PVR250 I'd been trying out for a friend. |
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| [10:37:00] | banyan: | Anybody have trouble with recent versions of ivtv being unable to find a pvr250's encoder mailbox on load? |
| [10:40:00] | laga: | afk. |
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| [10:44:00] | banyan: | anybody using a pvr-350 with fc4? is it safe for me to update to fc4 yet? |
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| [10:59:00] | juski: | bah, that didn't work either :( |
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| [11:02:00] | banyan: | Is the default capture card 0 or 1? |
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| [11:13:00] | Cardoe: | God |
| [11:14:00] | Cardoe: | sound quality has gone down the can |
| [11:14:00] | Cagochi: | I just got a setfault with transcode. |
| [11:14:00] | Cagochi: | 4 of my 5 segments transcoded successfully. The 5th just barfed. |
| [11:15:00] | Cagochi: | This is the command I typed at the command line. "transcode -i 5.mpg --export_prof dvd-ntsc -o tlf05.mpg" |
| [11:15:00] | Cagochi: | Here's my pastebin from transcodes output. http://pastebin.com/396231 |
| [11:15:00] | Cagochi: | Can anybody help? |
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| [11:19:00] | poonj: | hey guys, anyone here know where I can configure setting a button to run a system command? |
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| [12:43:00] | Dagmar: | poonj: In theory, lirc would be the thing to look at for that. |
| [13:00:00] | k-man: | is there a win32 mythtv frontend around? |
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| [13:27:00] | juski: | sandos_.. yes, and no. mostly no |
| [13:27:00] | juski: | oops |
| [13:27:00] | juski: | k-man... yes, and no |
| [13:28:00] | juski: | just google, and ye shall find: http://winmyth.sourceforge.net |
| [13:28:00] | Dagmar: | For the most part, you can cheat it. |
| [13:29:00] | Dagmar: | Install CygWin/X and PuTTY, then start the Cygwin/X server, ssh into your machine with the frontend software on it (with tunnelling enabled) and then you can start the frontend and it will export to your Win32 desktop. |
| [13:30:00] | Dagmar: | I wouldn't suggest trying to watch video like that tho (it'll be rough). |
| [13:30:00] | Dagmar: | ...or you can just share your video archive directory with Samba. Once you get Windows over the fact that the files end in nuv, they'll play fine |
| [13:30:00] | Dagmar: | It would probably be easier just to book a KnoppMyth CD rather than do either of those things |
| [13:31:00] | juski: | I tried that once – it crashed the backend |
| [13:32:00] | Dagmar: | Which thing? Exporting over ssh? |
| [13:32:00] | juski: | knoppmyth |
| [13:33:00] | Dagmar: | Messed up. It shouldn't be able to crash the backend unless there's a protocol problem |
| [13:33:00] | juski: | I regularly vnc into another machine to update the video directory though |
| [13:33:00] | Dagmar: | I'm just running all the bits on one machine at the moment (my desktop) |
| [13:33:00] | Dagmar: | Seems to be working fine |
| [13:33:00] | juski: | well, dagmar.. I know it shouldn't have been able to, but it did |
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| [13:39:00] | juski: | hmmm I think this compiling problem has something to do with sitypes.h |
| [13:40:00] | juski: | does that jog your memory, laga? |
| [13:40:00] | Dagmar: | juski: You're having a problem compiling something? |
| [13:41:00] | juski: | oh yeah |
| [13:41:00] | Dagmar: | Which thing? |
| [13:42:00] | juski: | sitypes.h:60: error: `uint16_t' was not declared in this scope |
| [13:42:00] | juski: | sitypes.h:60: error: template argument 1 is invalid |
| [13:42:00] | juski: | sitypes.h:60: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `QMap_SDTObject' with no |
| [13:42:00] | juski: | type |
| [13:42:00] | juski: | that's the start of the error |
| [13:43:00] | juski: | I googled on the 2st line & found laga's pastebin of the whole thing |
| [13:43:00] | Dagmar: | Actually, I meant which thinga re you building |
| [13:43:00] | juski: | *1st line |
| [13:43:00] | juski: | mythtv with dbox2 support |
| [13:43:00] | juski: | I've patched mythtv-0.18.1 |
| [13:43:00] | Dagmar: | Whoah. What's a dbox2? |
| [13:44:00] | juski: | I had it working a few weeks ago, and seen as the patch I used is the only one that applies cleanly, am assuming it's the one I originally used |
| [13:44:00] | Dagmar: | I'm guessing that if you can figure out where uint16_t is actually being defined you can add it to the includes on that file |
| [13:45:00] | juski: | Dagmar.. dbox2 is a cable/satellite set top box which conveniently does network streaming |
| [13:45:00] | Dagmar: | Nifty |
| [13:45:00] | juski: | yep |
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| [13:46:00] | juski: | I'd use SVN but I need the DVB code to be rock solid |
| [13:46:00] | Dagmar: | I'd say get the SVN and see if it works. |
| [13:47:00] | Dagmar: | Compiling > not-compiling. |
| [13:47:00] | juski: | laga's error was with svn – and it's the same error, so I'm thinking.. maybe not |
| [13:47:00] | juski: | nothing to lose though |
| [13:51:00] | Dagmar: | Bah. Color syntax highlighting is still a little flaky in vim 6.4 |
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| [13:57:00] | Pete_: | hmm.. configure says its not enabling dvd playback, whys this? looking at ./configure --help you need to pass --enable-dvd to stop it from compiling dvd support in, but im not. Is there something else I need to do to enable dvd support? |
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| [14:54:00] | Norwat: | hY |
| [14:55:00] | Norwat: | do you guys know any public online myth.tv servers |
| [14:55:00] | Norwat: | ? |
| [14:55:00] | laga: | err |
| [14:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | huh |
| [14:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | ? |
| [14:55:00] | laga: | could you please elaborate on that? |
| [14:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | public what ? |
| [14:55:00] | Norwat: | well |
| [14:55:00] | Norwat: | i want to watch sci-fi tv for example |
| [14:56:00] | Norwat: | but here on portugal we dont have it |
| [14:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythtv is not an online/Internet based tv streaming service |
| [14:56:00] | Norwat: | oh ... |
| [14:56:00] | laga: | that would be illegal |
| [14:56:00] | Norwat: | yeh i know ... |
| [14:56:00] | Norwat: | tks :P |
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| [14:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Myth is pvr software that is capable of streaming around your local network to multiple machines. But it's not an online service |
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| [15:25:00] | sskk: | Where are the mythweb settings saved? (when I change language, it's not saved persistently) |
| [15:25:00] | laga: | in a cookie, me thinks. you may also want to check the permissions on the php_sessions directory |
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| [15:37:00] | sskk: | laga: doesn't really solve it.. Do you know where in the code "English" and "9:00AM-9:00PM" are defined as the defaults? |
| [15:37:00] | laga: | sskk: nope, sorry. |
| [15:38:00] | sskk: | thanks anyway |
| [15:38:00] | laga: | sskk: try grep |
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| [15:48:00] | ** juski reads a question about public mythtv servers.. ROFLMAO ** | |
| [15:50:00] | juski: | good idea tho – all you need to do is get fox etc to agree to it |
| [15:50:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [15:50:00] | laga: | yep |
| [15:51:00] | juski: | laga – quick Q... which version of gcc you using? |
| [15:51:00] | laga: | gcc version 3.4.4 20050314 (prerelease) (Debian 3.4.3–13) |
| [15:51:00] | juski: | I'm on 3.3.6.. just trying to eliminate the compiling problem |
| [15:52:00] | laga: | did you try a newer version of the patch? |
| [15:52:00] | juski: | I can't.. it won't apply cleanly against 0.18 |
| [15:52:00] | juski: | I could solve the problem overnight by using svn |
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| [15:53:00] | juski: | and besides... I got it working before |
| [15:53:00] | laga: | what distro? |
| [15:53:00] | juski: | gentoo |
| [15:55:00] | juski: | I'll download the svn version tonight & see what I can see in the code |
| [15:56:00] | juski: | keeps me busy while 0.19 is being prepared anyway :) |
| [15:56:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [15:56:00] | laga: | juski: did you read all threads carefully? |
| [15:56:00] | juski: | yes I did |
| [15:56:00] | laga: | ok |
| [15:57:00] | juski: | I'm trying the first patch levon mailed out.. no mention of missing files in that one |
| [15:58:00] | juski: | I know there've been changes since then.. but it's a benchmark to get back to where I was |
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| [16:14:00] | manulito: | anyone with some nice screenshots of mythtv? |
| [16:14:00] | manulito: | except those on the site |
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| [16:36:00] | manulito: | one screenshot shows some movie-info |
| [16:36:00] | manulito: | like this: http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/mythvideo4.png |
| [16:36:00] | manulito: | does it fetch info from imdb? |
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| [17:43:00] | Dagmar: | Okay, I'm confused. |
| [17:44:00] | Dagmar: | I figured out the difference between MPEG-2 PS and MPEG-2 TS formats, but I can't for the life of me figure out where in the heck you can tell Myth to transcode stuff as MPEG-4 |
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| [17:44:00] | Rince: | hiho |
| [17:44:00] | Dagmar: | I'm trying to get the thing recording programs, and then recoding it over to something with more optimal compression and I'm getting nowhere |
| [17:45:00] | Dagmar: | Rince: Hey there... You got any wisdom to impart on this matter? |
| [17:45:00] | jonK: | and what is the difference ebtween mpeg-2 ps and mpeg-2 ts? |
| [17:45:00] | Dagmar: | TS uses shorter chunks of image data, basically an increase in encapsulation overhead in order to facilitate streaming across lossy networks. |
| [17:46:00] | Rince: | Hoi Dagmar |
| [17:46:00] | Dagmar: | PS, on the other hand, uses only long chunks of data for non-lossy transmission (like say, watching it off a disc) |
| [17:46:00] | Rince: | Dagmar: you mean first recoding, then transcoding in a dfferent format and then saving it? |
| [17:47:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah |
| [17:47:00] | Dagmar: | Or rather, first *recording* (which I'm doing fine)... |
| [17:47:00] | Rince: | well – I do that usually with nuvexport... |
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| [17:47:00] | Dagmar: | I've got a PVR-500 so I can't really pick the encoding method for the first recording |
| [17:48:00] | Dagmar: | The viewing menu has a "Start Transcoding" option, but it's pretty gnomic about what it's doing |
| [17:48:00] | Rince: | Dagmar: well – you can configure that in the setup |
| [17:48:00] | Dagmar: | Where do you set up those profiles to dictate what it transcodes to? |
| [17:48:00] | Rince: | I usually do normal recording and automatical transcoding so it gets compressed, and when I want to save something I use nuvexport for the proper output-format |
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| [17:57:00] | Dagmar: | I'm hoping to figure out the more useful stuff so I won't be answering support questions with "Umm... I never figured that bit out" |
| [17:58:00] | Dagmar: | I just built the whole schlamiel on a Slack 10.2 system so I'm going to try to get some Dropline packages for it out the door before Christmas |
| [17:59:00] | Dagmar: | With a wee bit of luck there won't be too much grumbling about the fact that it uses Qt. ;) |
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| [18:04:00] | beavis: | sure is myth ok on ubuntu Hoxzer |
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| [18:04:00] | Hoxzer: | beavis: how do you know? |
| [18:04:00] | Dagmar: | It should be able to run if they've got Qt packages available |
| [18:05:00] | Hoxzer: | well actually mythtv is not the problem |
| [18:05:00] | Hoxzer: | IVTV is |
| [18:05:00] | Hoxzer: | ;/ |
| [18:05:00] | Dagmar: | It won't work on ya'll's kernel? |
| [18:06:00] | Hoxzer: | mythtv-configure runs fine |
| [18:06:00] | Hoxzer: | so I guess mythtv will too if I just configure it right |
| [18:06:00] | Hoxzer: | but I just can't install IVTV |
| [18:07:00] | Dagmar: | Why not? |
| [18:07:00] | Hoxzer: | first there is no repo for it |
| [18:08:00] | Hoxzer: | and second I always get error by using this guide http://www.cs.rit.edu/~css8044/?q=ivtv |
| [18:08:00] | Rince: | btw... |
| [18:09:00] | Hoxzer: | btw what? |
| [18:09:00] | Rince: | is there anyone using nuvexport to make dvds? is there a scripted way to generate iso-images or so? |
| [18:09:00] | Rince: | or to make multiple dvds if necessary? |
| [18:09:00] | Dagmar: | Hoxzer: Yesterday I threw the 0.4.0 on this machine with a new 2.6.13.4 kernel just fine |
| [18:10:00] | Dagmar: | Hoxzer: And about the repository--you don't know how to make your own .debs? |
| [18:10:00] | Dagmar: | You *can* just lob the stuff in without the benefit of the package manager, but debs would make it easier to keep clean |
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| [18:13:00] | Hoxzer: | Dagmar: nope |
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| [18:14:00] | Dagmar: | Well, at least you've got the 2.6 kernel |
| [18:14:00] | Dagmar: | I found out the hard way the tuners on the PVR-500 don't really listen to ivtv with a 2.4 kernel |
| [18:14:00] | Dagmar: | Had to rebuild all the kernel mess |
| [18:15:00] | Dagmar: | Alsa, ivtv, nvidia driver, etc. Very annoying |
| [18:15:00] | Dagmar: | There is a *simpler* way to eliminate those other V4l drivers without deleting them. |
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| [18:16:00] | Dagmar: | "alias modulename off" in /etc/modules.conf (or modprobe.conf on yours I think) and you can effectively neuter them so they won't get in the way of tuner detection |
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| [18:20:00] | ** xris pokes kormoc|afk ** | |
| [18:21:00] | laga: | xris: is he late for work again? |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | yup |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | always is.. (he stays late, though) |
| [18:21:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | he has a problem with a roommate taking 2 hour showers in the morning |
| [18:21:00] | laga: | lazy workaholic.. |
| [18:21:00] | laga: | oh that sucks |
| [18:22:00] | Krazylegz: | He should figure out how to flush the toilet without being in the bathroom. |
| [18:22:00] | laga: | he should search for the valves... |
| [18:22:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah, just turn off the hot water....or the cold water. |
| [18:23:00] | Krazylegz: | "What happened to your last roommate?" "Burned in the shower. Freak accident." |
| [18:24:00] | Dagmar: | considering the acoustic environment of the shower, I'd go for bombarding him with subsonics |
| [18:24:00] | xris: | heh |
| [18:24:00] | Dagmar: | Make the shower a scary place and he'll get over the idea of hanging out in there too long |
| [18:25:00] | xris: | nah. kormoc bugged him about it, but the guy finally decided to start paying rent. |
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| [18:40:00] | Led-Hed: | kormoc, I got my 3ware 9500 a 64bit slot!! |
| [18:41:00] | kormoc: | yeah?! |
| [18:41:00] | kormoc: | so how good is it workin now? |
| [18:41:00] | Led-Hed: | workin like a champ |
| [18:41:00] | kormoc: | what's your throughput? |
| [18:41:00] | protonchris: | Led-Hed: what mobo? |
| [18:42:00] | Led-Hed: | protonchris, supermicro |
| [18:42:00] | Led-Hed: | kormoc, cant remember exactly, but something like 66mb |
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| [18:43:00] | kormoc: | Led-Hed, way nicer :) |
| [18:43:00] | Led-Hed: | ya |
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| [18:43:00] | Led-Hed: | protonchris, Supermicro P8SCT |
| [18:44:00] | Led-Hed: | kormoc, Timing cached reads: 3404 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1701.89 MB/sec |
| [18:44:00] | Led-Hed: | Timing buffered disk reads: 174 MB in 3.01 seconds = 57.84 MB/sec and thats while its in use... |
| [18:45:00] | Led-Hed: | of course it cost me $400 to upgrade. ;( |
| [18:45:00] | kormoc: | icky :/ |
| [18:45:00] | Led-Hed: | ya, the mobo uses DDR-II so I had to buy Mobo, RAM, & CPU |
| [18:46:00] | kormoc: | well, least it was a all around update |
| [18:46:00] | Dagmar: | Did you get 754 or 939 |
| [18:46:00] | Dagmar: | I'm guessing 754 from the price |
| [18:46:00] | Led-Hed: | Now I have to re-install the OS so that it can take advantage of the HyperThreading |
| [18:46:00] | Led-Hed: | Dagmar, its an intel. LGA 775 |
| [18:47:00] | Dagmar: | Ouch |
| [18:47:00] | Led-Hed: | I wanted AMD, but couldnt find one with a 64bit slot... |
| [18:48:00] | Led-Hed: | well, I found a few, but the Optron CPU's are very expensive... |
| [18:48:00] | Dagmar: | Weird |
| [18:48:00] | Dagmar: | I'm not buying another host system without it being x86_64 |
| [18:49:00] | Led-Hed: | there are a lot of AMD Mobos out there with PCI-Express, but I needed PCI-X |
| [18:51:00] | Dagmar: | Im' sure i've seen that throughput on PATA before tho |
| [18:51:00] | Led-Hed: | Between the RAID card(64bit PCI) , the Gig-E, and 4x PVR-250's it was tuff finding a Mobo to suit.... |
| [18:51:00] | Dagmar: | Usually the only holdup is the disks themselves, but you're going RAID |
| [18:52:00] | Led-Hed: | My PCI bus was hammered so the throuput was much lower when I was using the AMD/Abit NF7-S.. like 1/3 the performance. |
| [18:53:00] | Dagmar: | Doesn't the 250 have hardware encoding? |
| [18:53:00] | Dagmar: | My machine just barely seems to be doing anything when it's recording on the PVR-500 |
| [18:54:00] | gcope: | unless you're pushing many drives, its VERY doubtful you'll see anything throughput increase |
| [18:54:00] | gcope: | anything = any |
| [18:54:00] | Led-Hed: | the 250 has hardware encoding, but the PCI bus is still used to get the encoded video to the disks |
| [18:54:00] | gcope: | ...and then....doubtful unless you are using SCSI |
| [18:55:00] | Dagmar: | Something seems out of whack there. I'm guessing it must have something to do with PCI IRQ sharing |
| [18:55:00] | mchou: | Yup, I agree |
| [18:55:00] | mchou: | 4 250s should not saturate the bus |
| [18:55:00] | Dagmar: | Even the default slightly highish settings shouldn't be able to saturate the bus |
| [18:56:00] | Led-Hed: | mochu, 4 pvr-250's + Gig-E PCI card, + 3Ware 9500 RAID |
| [18:56:00] | Led-Hed: | Gig-E can saturate the PCI bus almost by itself |
| [18:56:00] | mchou: | no way the bus should come near saturation |
| [18:56:00] | mchou: | lol, the Gig-E is on the PCI bus? |
| [18:57:00] | Dagmar: | Are you intending on streaming all four cards out to the network at full speed? |
| [18:57:00] | gcope: | ...unless bus latency is getting too high |
| [18:57:00] | Led-Hed: | it was |
| [18:57:00] | Led-Hed: | on the NF7-S |
| [18:57:00] | Dagmar: | You definitely need pcix for Gig-E or most of those cards won't even engage Gig-E mode |
| [18:57:00] | Dagmar: | ...of course the easy solution is just to get a board with it built in |
| [18:57:00] | mchou: | Led-Hed: there's your problem right there. |
| [18:57:00] | Led-Hed: | the new Mobo has Gig-E built in |
| [18:58:00] | mchou: | so? should be ok then |
| [18:58:00] | Led-Hed: | mchou, not really, I had poor RAID performance before I added the Gig-E |
| [18:58:00] | gcope: | Led-Hed, what type of raid are you running? |
| [18:58:00] | Led-Hed: | with the New Mobo things are smookin.... but the NF7-S was crap as a backend... |
| [18:59:00] | Led-Hed: | gcope, 7x 160g SATA RAID5 |
| [18:59:00] | Dagmar: | Well, at least it's good you only had to spend $400 then |
| [18:59:00] | Led-Hed: | ya |
| [18:59:00] | Dagmar: | Okay it's clear you watch way more TV than I do |
| [18:59:00] | Led-Hed: | the new system wont be pushed until I go HD |
| [18:59:00] | mchou: | Led-Hed: sell me the nf7 :) |
| [18:59:00] | Dagmar: | I'm just looking to keep myself able to watch the stuff that's on until I can burn some of it to DVD. |
| [18:59:00] | gcope: | Led-Hed, you realize that SATA (AFAIK) perf on linux is still sub par compared to SCSI...on linux? |
| [18:59:00] | Led-Hed: | mchou, nope, new life as a frontend |
| [18:59:00] | Dagmar: | I'm not looking to archive the last months' worth of braodcasting at once |
| [19:00:00] | Beirdo: | gcope: you realize that SCSI is WAY cheaper than SATA :) |
| [19:00:00] | mchou: | fucking seagate |
| [19:00:00] | Led-Hed: | gcope, I cant afford a 1Tb SCSI RAID |
| [19:00:00] | Beirdo: | errr |
| [19:00:00] | gcope: | software raid or hardware raid? |
| [19:00:00] | Beirdo: | more expensive |
| [19:00:00] | ** Beirdo slaps himself ** | |
| [19:00:00] | mchou: | I dunno if these smart errors are real or not |
| [19:00:00] | Beirdo: | wake up, retard |
| [19:00:00] | Led-Hed: | gcope, 3Ware 9500 (hardware) |
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| [19:03:00] | Led-Hed: | my performance before the upgrade. Timing cached reads: 1176 MB in 2.00 seconds = 587.21 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 192 MB in 3.03 seconds = 63.36 MB/sec |
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| [19:04:00] | Led-Hed: | so the Cached read is now 3 times faster |
| [19:04:00] | gcope: | cached as in 9500 cached? |
| [19:05:00] | Led-Hed: | not sure how that translates... |
| [19:05:00] | gcope: | Led-Hed, how much memory you ave? |
| [19:06:00] | Led-Hed: | 1g ddr-II |
| [19:06:00] | Led-Hed: | dual channel |
| [19:06:00] | gcope: | the cached perf you're talking about? Is that 9500's cache perf read result or OS cache read result? |
| [19:07:00] | Led-Hed: | I dont know. I just did a hdparm -tT /dev/sda1 |
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| [19:08:00] | rapha: | Hi all! |
| [19:08:00] | gcope: | Led-Hed, was that run multiple times...each time resulted the same value? |
| [19:08:00] | rapha: | How do you get listings for Germany in MythTV? Zap2It isn't available here afaik |
| [19:09:00] | gcope: | fyi, increasing memory will affect the results of that test |
| [19:09:00] | Led-Hed: | Ran it 4 times, all were within 10% |
| [19:09:00] | gcope: | that test is basically testing the OS's cache |
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| [19:10:00] | gcope: | ...I say that...the docs really are not that clear |
| [19:10:00] | Led-Hed: | Then there was a prob with the OS cache before the Upgrade. Funny thing is that I didnt re-install the OS with the new Mobo. Just popped it in and Fedora detected everything just fine.... |
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| [19:10:00] | gcope: | ya, with modules, you shouldn't have to reinstall |
| [19:11:00] | rapha: | Nobody using MythTV outside North America? |
| [19:11:00] | Led-Hed: | I was looking into doing a benchmark with bonnie, but I dont understand the output... |
| [19:11:00] | Led-Hed: | rapha, sure there are. |
| [19:11:00] | sskk: | rapha: I'm up and running in Denmar, Europe |
| [19:12:00] | rapha: | Led-Hed, sskk: how do you get TV listings if not from Zap2It? |
| [19:12:00] | sskk: | I don't use zat2it |
| [19:12:00] | gcope: | Led-Hed, I'm really not sure what to tel you about the validity of that measurment...the docs contridicts it self |
| [19:12:00] | sskk: | the danish broadcaster TV2 has a simular service |
| [19:12:00] | Led-Hed: | lol. |
| [19:12:00] | sskk: | (free) |
| [19:12:00] | gcope: | one part says it measures the disk's cache...the other says it measures the OS's disk cache... |
| [19:13:00] | rapha: | Does anybody know if there's such a service for Germany? |
| [19:13:00] | rapha: | (What to look for in Google?) |
| [19:13:00] | gcope: | it also says several meg needs to be available...which implies it's the OS' cache being tested...not the disk's |
| [19:13:00] | gcope: | just fyi, if you are looking to further improve disk buffer cache, add more memory |
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| [19:14:00] | Led-Hed: | well, the Raid Controller has 128mb on it, so I'm not sure if its the RAID Cache, Disk Cache (all disks are 8mb) or the OS cache. Thats a lotta cache |
| [19:14:00] | Led-Hed: | gcope, I doubled the RAM and the buffered only changed about 1% |
| [19:15:00] | gcope: | Led-Hed, depending on hardware config, the 128MB onboard the controller should be used for write-behind read-ahead caching |
| [19:15:00] | gcope: | chances are, the onboard ram is giving a false read performance |
| [19:15:00] | Led-Hed: | I wish there was a simple Disk benchmark I could use to test it a bit more... |
| [19:16:00] | juski: | hometime (yay!) |
| [19:16:00] | gcope: | for example, if the disk test assumes the drive has 8 or 16M of cache, at it attempts to test on-disk cache performance, the controller will have it all cached, especially on the second run through |
| [19:17:00] | gcope: | ....but, if you read/write multiple streams through the controller, or read a file which is not cached, performance is going to be much smaller |
| [19:17:00] | gcope: | err lower |
| [19:17:00] | gcope: | chances are, video is going to be much larger than 128MB...especially if you have mutiple read/write streams going on concurrently |
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| [19:18:00] | gcope: | ...which I'm guessing the intent is if you have 4 video cards |
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| [19:18:00] | gcope: | do you have multiple front-ends whereby, you plan to play many videos at once? |
| [19:23:00] | gcope: | on my old, slow PATA drive, I get: Timing cached reads: 3792 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1894.39 MB/sec |
| [19:24:00] | gcope: | in case you were curiou |
| [19:24:00] | gcope: | in case you were curious |
| [19:24:00] | FITH: | 2gb/sec of memory bandwidth?? Wow! |
| [19:25:00] | Led-Hed: | I have 4 frontends. I may soon convert 2 of them to HDTV |
| [19:26:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm. Anyone in here right now put a bunch of extra RAM in the system and put the LiveTV cache on a RAMdisk? |
| [19:26:00] | Led-Hed: | what benifit? |
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| [19:26:00] | Krazylegz: | Faster channel switching? |
| [19:26:00] | mchou: | nope |
| [19:26:00] | gcope: | KraMer, as a rule of thumb, extra ram is best used for FS cache rather than ramdisk |
| [19:27:00] | gcope: | opps |
| [19:27:00] | Krazylegz: | Dang tab completion. |
| [19:27:00] | gcope: | Krazylegz, , as a rule of thumb, extra ram is best used for FS cache rather than ramdisk |
| [19:27:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes, I got it. ;-) |
| [19:27:00] | mchou: | channel switching is mostly a function of ivtv :) |
| [19:27:00] | mchou: | the "slow" part at least |
| [19:28:00] | gcope: | Led-Hed, what FS are you using? |
| [19:28:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, when people ask why Myth isn't as fast for switching channels as Tivo, we say that it's because Tivo doesn't do as much. |
| [19:28:00] | FITH: | the channel switching time is a function of the PVR cards mpeg buffer isn't it? (i.e. disk speed won't do anything) |
| [19:28:00] | gcope: | Led-Hed, if you are planning on having that kind of FS traffic, you might want to consider XFS or JFS |
| [19:28:00] | Led-Hed: | gcope, using XFS now |
| [19:28:00] | Krazylegz: | FITH: That's what I thought too. |
| [19:29:00] | gcope: | XFS is my preference too |
| [19:29:00] | gcope: | Led-Hed, does you raid controller support write-through or write-back caching? if so, which you using? |
| [19:30:00] | gcope: | Led-Hed, does it have onboard battery backup? |
| [19:30:00] | Led-Hed: | ya |
| [19:30:00] | Led-Hed: | gcope, not sure on the w-thru or w-back |
| [19:31:00] | gcope: | w-back is faster....but riskier...wouldn't use it unless you love really bad disk corrupt OR have a battery backup on the controller |
| [19:31:00] | Led-Hed: | I have a battery backup on the controller, how much faster is w-back? |
| [19:32:00] | gcope: | Led-Hed, depends on the controller ;) Typically, makes writes anywhere from 5–200% faster...depending on size and number of writes and other channel activity...so on and so on... |
| [19:32:00] | Led-Hed: | humm, I'll have to try it... |
| [19:33:00] | gcope: | for real world use in myth, it will probably lower disk write latency when you hve all 4 streams recording...ensuing you don't drop/stutter, etc...probably won't matter much in the long run...but sure wouldn't hurt to enable since you have battery |
| [19:34:00] | rapha: | Wow |
| [19:34:00] | rapha: | MythTV has advanced. Last time I tried to install, my mouse didn't work in the setup screens, now it does :) |
| [19:34:00] | rapha: | Well... partially |
| [19:35:00] | Led-Hed: | thats more the Distro you are using than MythTV |
| [19:37:00] | rapha: | Ubuntu? |
| [19:38:00] | Led-Hed: | I use Fedora/RH. My first Myth Install was on RH9. Went ok, but Fedora 1 was by far the easiest install... |
| [19:39:00] | Led-Hed: | Usinf FC4 now and its not to bad.. |
| [19:40:00] | laga: | Led-Hed: the support for the mouse cursor is new. |
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| [19:40:00] | Led-Hed: | laga, support in myth? |
| [19:40:00] | laga: | Led-Hed: yep |
| [19:41:00] | Led-Hed: | humm, I havent seen it. how do I turn it on? |
| [19:42:00] | Led-Hed: | the only time I see the cursor is when viewing a movie with Xine... |
| [19:43:00] | rapha: | Led-Hed: when you get "Session management error: Authentication reejected" upon trying to start mythtv-backend, what could be wrong? |
| [19:44:00] | Led-Hed: | my guess is that MySQL isnt setup for user mythtv |
| [19:44:00] | laga: | Led-Hed: it just works i believe. |
| [19:44:00] | Led-Hed: | humm |
| [19:44:00] | laga: | rapha: my guess is that it doesnt matter. |
| [19:44:00] | rapha: | Led-Hed: It is and I can log in using the mysql client. I also entered the mysql password into /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [19:45:00] | Led-Hed: | rapha, I dont know then. |
| [19:45:00] | rapha: | laga: rapha@proactivity:~$ ps ax | grep myth |
| [19:45:00] | rapha: | doesn't return anything |
| [19:45:00] | laga: | rapha: gentoo? |
| [19:45:00] | Led-Hed: | rapha, try yhr mailing list |
| [19:45:00] | rapha: | laga: Ubuntu |
| [19:45:00] | laga: | rapha: ok. start launching the backend manually by typing "mythbackend" |
| [19:46:00] | rapha: | laga: should I use the mythtv user? |
| [19:46:00] | laga: | rapha: why yes |
| [19:46:00] | rapha: | Lol :) ... okay |
| [19:47:00] | rapha: | No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP |
| [19:48:00] | rapha: | Oh. |
| [19:49:00] | Led-Hed: | I'm shopping for a 42" Plasma. Any recomendations. |
| [19:49:00] | gcope: | wow...you must be a real TV fiend! :) |
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| [19:50:00] | Led-Hed: | new house with a BIG empty wall... My 8yr old 32" has seen better days |
| [19:50:00] | rapha: | gcope: fiend or friend? :) |
| [19:50:00] | pj: | erhtrh |
| [19:50:00] | laga: | rapha: did you run mythtv-setup yet? |
| [19:50:00] | pj: | test |
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| [19:51:00] | rapha: | laga: No, the HowTo I'm reading says to first start the backend server |
| [19:51:00] | laga: | rapha: it's wrong obviously |
| [19:51:00] | gcope: | Led-Hed, I have a semi-new 52" (IIRC) toshiba...am very happy with it...but I have not looked at plasmas |
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| [19:52:00] | laga: | Led-Hed: make sure that it supports hdtv resolutions |
| [19:52:00] | rapha: | laga: okay, thx |
| [19:53:00] | Led-Hed: | I'm curious about the new HDMI inputs. Are they any better than Component? Will I be affected by Copy Protection if I use it? |
| [19:53:00] | ** gcope proclaims ignorance... ** | |
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| [19:54:00] | laga: | Led-Hed: it's possible that HDMI inputs will only accept encrypted signals. i don't know, though. sorry. |
| [19:54:00] | Led-Hed: | I might just go EDTV and call it good. Then no hastle with HDTV. Hell at 15' away how much better can HD look over EDTV? |
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| [19:55:00] | king_dan: | hey everyone! |
| [19:56:00] | laga: | Led-Hed: imagine quake 3 on your hdtv. ;) |
| [19:56:00] | mchou: | Led-Hed: EDTV is just fine |
| [19:57:00] | king_dan: | anyone gimmie a hand with ma mythtv install? |
| [19:58:00] | laga: | king_dan: your teacher my give you a hand with your english |
| [19:58:00] | laga: | might* |
| [19:58:00] | Led-Hed: | I was looking at the EDTV & HDTV's at CircuitCity yesterday and at 10+ feet away its hard to tell the difference |
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| [19:59:00] | Led-Hed: | king_dan, best info I can give you, http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [20:00:00] | king_dan: | lol gutted laga, if your going to rip the piss try not to make the same mistake :p |
| [20:00:00] | laga: | king_dan: right. spelling flames are always misspelt ;) |
| [20:01:00] | king_dan: | lol sure :p |
| [20:01:00] | rapha: | You know what REALLY sucks is when you can only see your mouse in text entry fields and can't click a button AND the buttons don't respond to tab AND have no hotkeys |
| [20:01:00] | laga: | rapha: tab should work. |
| [20:02:00] | rapha: | laga: On the "Sender Bearbeiten" (Edit Stations or something) screen it doesn't |
| [20:02:00] | rapha: | laga: Well, it does. But not for the buttons. |
| [20:02:00] | laga: | oh, a german fellow. you're welcome to join #mythtv-de :) |
| [20:03:00] | rapha: | Okay |
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| [20:54:00] | lwizardl: | how are pvr-150 cards |
| [20:54:00] | xris: | lwizardl: compared to what? |
| [20:54:00] | lwizardl: | ati aiw's |
| [20:54:00] | laga: | to canned cheese |
| [20:55:00] | xris: | aiw doesn't work in linux, does it? |
| [20:55:00] | lwizardl: | no but those are the only cap cards i've used so far |
| [20:55:00] | lwizardl: | besides a bt848 |
| [20:55:00] | xris: | pvr-150 is fine... |
| [20:55:00] | xris: | mine works great |
| [20:56:00] | lwizardl: | does it downmix 5.1 ? or will it keep it 5.1 |
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| [20:56:00] | lwizardl: | audio |
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| [20:59:00] | xris: | huh? dolby goes over 2 wires just fine |
| [20:59:00] | xris: | and it's not really lost when encoded to mpeg2 |
| [21:00:00] | lwizardl: | ok so with the 150 if the show has 5.1 it won't downmix it to stereo |
| [21:00:00] | lwizardl: | thats good |
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| [21:09:00] | vibey: | anyone hear the dolby headphones technology?? |
| [21:10:00] | vibey: | I'm planning to get an ipod video.. and i was considering building a mythtv as the dvr... what are the possibillities of setting up a mythtv and automating the process of transcoding for an ipodvideo? |
| [21:10:00] | xris: | lwizardl: that'd be silly and require all kinds of extra work. easier to just encode the audio and leave the dolby as intact as mpeg lets it. |
| [21:11:00] | xris: | vibey: apparently the ipod will play recordings straight from the pvr-x50 cards |
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| [21:12:00] | vibey: | xris: any links to more details? |
| [21:12:00] | xris: | check the channel logs for yesterday.. search for 480x480 |
| [21:13:00] | vibey: | are the logs hosted anywhere? i wasn't in the channel yest |
| [21:13:00] | vibey: | nm.. wiki |
| [21:13:00] | xris: | vibey: /topic |
| [21:13:00] | laga: | MythLogBot: help |
| [21:14:00] | vibey: | xris: read the topic just as i hit enter.. sorry |
| [21:14:00] | xris: | holy crap, it responds to text |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | only to that ONE command |
| [21:14:00] | ** xris pokes Beirdo, I want it to respond to [number] and #number with links to trac ** | |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | silly |
| [21:15:00] | laga: | xris: omfg it's alive! |
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| [21:20:00] | lwizardl: | xris: was planning on it was just making sure its not a stereo only connection card |
| [21:21:00] | xris: | lwizardl: it *is* stereo-only |
| [21:21:00] | xris: | dolby *is* stereo |
| [21:22:00] | xris: | it's a technology that encodes multiple speaker signals into stereo wires. |
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| [21:22:00] | lwizardl: | ok what i mean was it doesn't take from like 5.1 down to 2.0 stereo |
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| [21:23:00] | lwizardl: | as in only a single left & right stream |
| [21:23:00] | xris: | yes. just saying that it *can't* do that.. don't think anything can |
| [21:23:00] | xris: | without a lot of extra work/hardware. |
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| [21:25:00] | lwizardl: | ok i know my old ati only did 2.0 stereo |
| [21:25:00] | lwizardl: | you couldn't even hear the other parts |
| [21:26:00] | lwizardl: | but thanks |
| [21:26:00] | xris: | weird. doesn't makes sense, though. it's more work to remove the signal than to leave it in. |
| [21:26:00] | xris: | though encoding to whatever format you encoded to could have degraded the signal enough to kill dolby |
| [21:27:00] | lwizardl: | it was a rage 3d so it coul of just been to old to have the support |
| [21:27:00] | lwizardl: | i just used the ati codec |
| [21:27:00] | lwizardl: | anything else i lost to many frames |
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| [21:37:00] | jd86: | If i have a hauppague tv150, and this other hauppague card which is unidentified but has bt878 thingy, will they play nice together? |
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| [21:38:00] | gratz|home: | when svn'ing mythplugins is it best to svn it into the already svn'd mythtv directory as a subdir or does it really not matter? |
| [21:39:00] | gratz|home: | would it be possible to make the svn update both mythtv and mythplugins update at the same time to keep consistencies |
| [21:43:00] | jd86: | 10 |
| [21:44:00] | jd86: | sorry, wrong keyboard |
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| [21:49:00] | jd86: | ugh problems, again |
| [21:49:00] | jd86: | N doesn't switch tuners in pip |
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| [21:59:00] | jd86: | these cards don't like to coexist |
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| [21:59:00] | rapha: | Hmm |
| [21:59:00] | rapha: | How do you change channels? |
| [22:00:00] | jd86: | enter the number? |
| [22:01:00] | rapha: | Nothing happens, number appears, then disappears again |
| [22:01:00] | jd86: | you have a problem then :( sorry i can't help i'm quite new too.. what card? |
| [22:02:00] | rapha: | Some standard v4l. Works alright with tvtime. |
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| [22:48:00] | Z-Morek: | so I'm on fc3 and I followed the wilsonet guide... yet lircd is broken it seems.... is it worth my while to upgrade to fc4 |
| [22:49:00] | juski: | upgrade just because lirc is broke? |
| [22:50:00] | Z-Morek: | it's been broken |
| [22:50:00] | juski: | that's kinda like formatting the hard drive to delete a file |
| [22:50:00] | Z-Morek: | I was raised on windows |
| [22:50:00] | Z-Morek: | it makes sense to ME |
| [22:50:00] | juski: | I was raised on a zx81 (timex 1000) |
| [22:50:00] | laga: | juski: BTW, did you ever noticed the dboxII epg brokenness? |
| [22:51:00] | laga: | i was raised on IRC |
| [22:51:00] | juski: | laga... I'd have to have a working spare mythtv box ;) |
| [22:51:00] | Z-Morek: | and I'm not knowledgable enough of linux to fix the problem without some rpm or something |
| [22:51:00] | jd86: | ugh i cant get bttv audio working |
| [22:51:00] | Z-Morek: | or a precompiled kernel module |
| [22:51:00] | laga: | juski: hehe. well, danielk fixed it in a recent commit :) |
| [22:51:00] | juski: | Z-Morek – that's just the kind of defeatest attitude I once had :) |
| [22:52:00] | juski: | ****ing bastard stupid linux !!! (user) |
| [22:52:00] | juski: | that was me |
| [22:52:00] | juski: | just persist, Z-Morek ;) |
| [22:52:00] | Z-Morek: | how |
| [22:53:00] | juski: | climb a little farther up the learning curve.. it's really no big shakes to compile lirc yourself |
| [22:53:00] | Z-Morek: | my mythtv rig runs on a puny little 13 inch tv with the clarity of a blind man |
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| [22:53:00] | jd86: | ugh |
| [22:53:00] | jd86: | why does the audio on this card have to be so persistantly stupid. |
| [22:53:00] | juski: | hey look I was new to linux, and to get my capture card working I had no choice but to patch my kernel |
| [22:53:00] | laga: | juski: ivtv? ;) |
| [22:54:00] | Led-Hed: | Z-Morek, what is your Lirc problem? |
| [22:54:00] | Z-Morek: | lircd will start |
| [22:54:00] | juski: | laga.. no – dvb.. hell if it'd been ivtv I think it might have gone out through the window |
| [22:54:00] | Z-Morek: | only somehow it's not recognizing input or something |
| [22:54:00] | Z-Morek: | when I run /usr/bin/irw it says nothing and moves onto a new command prompt |
| [22:54:00] | Z-Morek: | if I try again it says the device is busy |
| [22:54:00] | juski: | ah |
| [22:55:00] | laga: | juski: hehe. it was ivtv for me, namely version 0.1.9 and i had no fscking clue back then ;) |
| [22:55:00] | juski: | it's probably trying to use the wrong device |
| [22:55:00] | Z-Morek: | if I try to restart lircd it fails to stop yet says it starts ok |
| [22:55:00] | Led-Hed: | Z-Morek, do you have a lircd.conf file? |
| [22:55:00] | Z-Morek: | I followed the wilsonet guide by the letter |
| [22:55:00] | Z-Morek: | and I recall very little of it :-\ |
| [22:55:00] | juski: | sometimes it's /dev/lirc sometimes it's /dev/lirc0, and for me it was /dev/lirc/0 |
| [22:56:00] | Led-Hed: | are you trying to start it manually or from bootup? |
| [22:56:00] | juski: | Z-Morek – which LIRC module are we talking about here? ivtv, serial.. ? |
| [22:56:00] | Led-Hed: | Z-Morek, FC4 won't fix your problem... |
| [22:56:00] | juski: | btw laga.. svn compiled okay |
| [22:57:00] | juski: | so.. my goal of getting dbox2 going in 0.18.1 is gonna have to wait til I know what was going wrong |
| [22:57:00] | Led-Hed: | Z-Morek, you using a serial or PVR-x50 IR Reciever? |
| [22:58:00] | ** juski sobs at the thought of having contributed to code he can't use lol ** | |
| [22:58:00] | Z-Morek: | I have a pvr250, ivtv driver and I have the pvr-x50 ir receiver |
| [22:59:00] | Z-Morek: | I had everything running and like the windowsian I am I decided to update using apt just for the sake of an update |
| [22:59:00] | juski: | oh shit |
| [22:59:00] | Z-Morek: | I'll never do THAT again |
| [22:59:00] | Led-Hed: | is the lirc_i2c loaded? |
| [23:00:00] | Ryushin: | z-morek: I update just fine. |
| [23:00:00] | Z-Morek: | yes |
| [23:00:00] | juski: | when you upgrade stuff like that in FC does it overwrite config files n stuff? |
| [23:00:00] | laga: | juski: hehehe :) |
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| [23:00:00] | Z-Morek: | my modprobe.conf remains the same |
| [23:00:00] | Ryushin: | Though I run the source for ivtv, lircd, and I'm trying to run svn. Just not succesful yet with the changes they've made with dvb. |
| [23:00:00] | Z-Morek: | but maybe it just never updated modprobe |
| [23:00:00] | juski: | yeh but lircd.conf etc? |
| [23:00:00] | laga: | juski: you can always move to SVN :). the dvb code isn't as flaky [sic] as it used to be |
| [23:01:00] | Z-Morek: | I don't know |
| [23:01:00] | juski: | well I'm gonna try it.. needs the ass testing off it before I let it loose in here |
| [23:01:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm pretty ignorant to everything |
| [23:01:00] | laga: | juski: hehe |
| [23:01:00] | Ryushin: | laga: The new svn dvb code causes my hd-3000 card to stutter. |
| [23:01:00] | Z-Morek: | exactly where is the lircd.conf file |
| [23:01:00] | Ryushin: | I'm still trying to figure out how to fix it. |
| [23:02:00] | juski: | you know I'm partly doing this cos there are peeps on the forum asking about dbox2 support. I think my commitment to helping people means I need psychiatric help |
| [23:02:00] | Ryushin: | It seems that it doesn't accept the DVD recording parameters buffer entries anymore. |
| [23:02:00] | Z-Morek: | I'll just pore over the wilsonet guide for a while and then kick my mythrig a few times.... |
| [23:02:00] | Z-Morek: | I'll be back |
| [23:02:00] | laga: | Ryushin: complaining to danielk could help :) |
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| [23:03:00] | Ryushin: | laga: Who is danielk? |
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| [23:03:00] | laga: | Ryushin: he's responsible for the latest code changes i believe |
| [23:03:00] | laga: | Ryushin: you don't read -dev and -commits? |
| [23:03:00] | juski: | FAQ is now a few lines longer, laga... thinking of putting the first question "who do I hell at to get features I want included?" and the 2nd Q: "how loud and how long must I whine about it?" |
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| [23:04:00] | Ryushin: | laga: Nope. Just the users list. I guess I should subscribe to the -dev and -commits I guess. |
| [23:04:00] | laga: | Ryushin: you should! |
| [23:04:00] | laga: | Ryushin: for now, you can search at www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ |
| [23:04:00] | Ryushin: | Time to add one more list to my 40 lists I get each day. :) |
| [23:04:00] | laga: | juski: hehehe. |
| [23:05:00] | juski: | someone did pose an interesting question the other day though... "is there any way to group channels together in mythtv.. into categories like 'sports', 'entertainment' etc" |
| [23:06:00] | laga: | juski: oh, that would be nice. |
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| [23:07:00] | juski: | more columns in tables.. the only way I can see around it |
| [23:07:00] | Z-Morek: | okay so I checked the /var/log/messages |
| [23:07:00] | laga: | juski: you probably can group your recordings like that. |
| [23:07:00] | jd86: | ok for a tuner card (regular one) and you have to set the audio thing, can you use an alsa device? |
| [23:07:00] | juski: | and, Z-Morek? |
| [23:08:00] | Z-Morek: | lemme copy paste it into that website thing |
| [23:08:00] | Z-Morek: | one sec |
| [23:08:00] | jave: | im trying to play an avi movie from the mythvideo plugin. the screen just blinks "loading" and returns. mplayer doesnt start. Is there a logfile for mythvideo? |
| [23:08:00] | laga: | jave: it should be in the logs of the frontend |
| [23:08:00] | juski: | jave – if you try to play the movie in mplayer outside of mythtv, does it work? |
| [23:09:00] | jave: | juski: yes it works outside of myth |
| [23:09:00] | juski: | possibly just a command line switch you're missing then, jave |
| [23:09:00] | jave: | laga: where does the mythfrontend log go? |
| [23:09:00] | jave: | juski: i tried copying the command parameters from the settings. they work |
| [23:09:00] | jave: | when i try like that |
| [23:09:00] | laga: | jave: nowhere, probably. start it on the console or with --logfile ~/mythfrontend.log |
| [23:10:00] | jave: | laga: ah okie thanks |
| [23:10:00] | laga: | jave: do you run a window manager? |
| [23:10:00] | juski: | right – break over .. time to go back to re-covering my speakers |
| [23:11:00] | Z-Morek: | I ran these commands: /sbin/service lircd restart |
| [23:12:00] | Z-Morek: | then /usr/bin/irw |
| [23:12:00] | laga: | well, good night and good luck to all the people with problems ;) |
| [23:12:00] | Z-Morek: | and once more /usr/bin/irw this time it said connection refused |
| [23:12:00] | Led-Hed: | later laga |
| [23:12:00] | Z-Morek: | and the /var/log/messages is here |
| [23:12:00] | Z-Morek: | http://pastebin.ca/25779 |
| [23:12:00] | jave: | laga: yes |
| [23:13:00] | jave: | laga: juski: now i see the log, now i can probably work it out! thanks |
| [23:13:00] | Led-Hed: | Z-Morek, do this: ll /dev/lirc* |
| [23:13:00] | Z-Morek: | displays two objects |
| [23:13:00] | Z-Morek: | one has VERY limited permissions |
| [23:14:00] | Led-Hed: | you should have a link from /dev/lirv -> lirc0 |
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| [23:14:00] | Z-Morek: | one has rw on all |
| [23:14:00] | Z-Morek: | are links displayed in pink? |
| [23:14:00] | Led-Hed: | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Oct 16 23:40 /dev/lirc -> lirc0 |
| [23:14:00] | Led-Hed: | crw-rw---- 1 root root 61, 0 Oct 16 23:40 /dev/lirc0 |
| [23:14:00] | Led-Hed: | srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Oct 16 23:40 /dev/lircd |
| [23:14:00] | jave: | hah, it works if i find an actual avi file. The interface shows all file types... |
| [23:14:00] | Led-Hed: | that is mine |
| [23:14:00] | Z-Morek: | only the second two |
| [23:14:00] | Z-Morek: | and my lirc0 has permissions only on root |
| [23:15:00] | Led-Hed: | you need to link /dev/lirc to lirc0 |
| [23:15:00] | Z-Morek: | ... |
| [23:16:00] | jd86: | now i hear fuzz |
| [23:16:00] | Z-Morek: | you're going to get mad at me... but how do you link again? |
| [23:16:00] | jd86: | bt878 card.. |
| [23:16:00] | Led-Hed: | Z-Morek, chmod 666 /dev/lircd will change the permission |
| [23:17:00] | Led-Hed: | ln -sf lirc0 lirc |
| [23:17:00] | Led-Hed: | you have to be root to link it |
| [23:18:00] | Led-Hed: | try the mythtv.org docs. http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-8.html#ss8.4 |
| [23:19:00] | Z-Morek: | so should I stick with the precompiled lirc I have or just follow the mythtv.org guide and compile myself? |
| [23:19:00] | Led-Hed: | the link I gave you should show you how to link /dev/lirc |
| [23:20:00] | Led-Hed: | skip the compiling stuff, just focus on the config part |
| [23:20:00] | Z-Morek: | I FEEL REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY STUPID |
| [23:20:00] | Z-Morek: | now that I linked |
| [23:20:00] | Z-Morek: | irw now responds |
| [23:20:00] | Led-Hed: | I always feel that way on this channel. |
| [23:20:00] | Z-Morek: | and I was SO ready to upgrade to fc4 |
| [23:20:00] | jave: | can anyone recomend a link to user documentation for mythvideo? |
| [23:20:00] | Led-Hed: | Z-Morek, FC4 wouldn't fix the problem... |
| [23:21:00] | ** Z-Morek has foot in mouth ** | |
| [23:21:00] | Led-Hed: | now as long as the permissions are correct then user mythtv should be able to use lirc... |
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| [23:22:00] | Led-Hed: | and you need the lircrc file in /home/mythtv/.mythtv/ you should be fine |
| [23:22:00] | Z-Morek: | thanks a lot |
| [23:22:00] | Led-Hed: | no prob. Make notes for next time. |
| [23:23:00] | Z-Morek: | I had EVERYTHING configured before I updated and then for some reason the fact that I didn't have a link just changed everything |
| [23:23:00] | Z-Morek: | and while you still have the patience to deal with me I have another minor issue |
| [23:23:00] | Led-Hed: | well, the previous config was pointing to a device that doesnt exist now. so it wouldnt work... |
| [23:23:00] | Z-Morek: | mmmm |
| [23:24:00] | Led-Hed: | once you created /dev/lirc0 it started working again... |
| [23:24:00] | Led-Hed: | whats this other minor issue.? |
| [23:24:00] | Z-Morek: | actually |
| [23:24:00] | Z-Morek: | I think I'll just tinker my way thru this one |
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| [23:24:00] | Z-Morek: | two instances of the myth frontend start with kde |
| [23:25:00] | Z-Morek: | and for some reason even though I had it setup to autologin with my mythtv user it doesn't |
| [23:25:00] | Led-Hed: | humm, I use gnome, so I couldn't help you there. look in the KDE Startup for user mythtv |
| [23:25:00] | Z-Morek: | it might have something to do with the script from the wilsonet guide |
| [23:25:00] | Z-Morek: | I'll be back in a few |
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| [23:25:00] | Led-Hed: | ok |
| [23:25:00] | Z-Morek: | thanks again |
| [23:26:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm pretty oblivious to linux |
| [23:26:00] | Led-Hed: | no prob. glad I was able to help someone for once.... |
| [23:26:00] | Z-Morek: | there's a lug meeting in my area soon I think I'll go |
| [23:26:00] | Led-Hed: | usually I'm in your shoes... |
| [23:26:00] | Z-Morek: | and such is the ways of the linux community right? |
| [23:27:00] | Z-Morek: | everyone tryin to help eachother if they can |
| [23:27:00] | Led-Hed: | with regard to linux, the best bet is to search the web for answers before asking in an IRC, some linux people can be quite cold to n00bs... |
| [23:28:00] | Z-Morek: | more often than not I usually just get ignored on irc |
| [23:29:00] | Z-Morek: | not so much meanness |
| [23:29:00] | Z-Morek: | more indifference |
| [23:29:00] | Led-Hed: | ya, it can be harsh for n00bs |
| [23:29:00] | Z-Morek: | but I understand... for the mostpart my questions are poorly developed and about very stupid things |
| [23:29:00] | Z-Morek: | 90% of the time I just skipped a step in the guide I was using |
| [23:30:00] | Z-Morek: | so I fix it myself |
| [23:30:00] | Led-Hed: | not really, they just like things formatted a specific way.. |
| [23:31:00] | Led-Hed: | every linux channel I've been to points you to a "How to ask Smart Questions" site. Funny thing is, that site tells n00bs to look for answers on IRC channels. |
| [23:31:00] | kormoc: | Exactly, needs to be super shorthand, i.e. Q: LNX KNL MOD REQ $? 4 PVR-500? |
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| [23:31:00] | Led-Hed: | kormoc, lol |
| [23:31:00] | xris: | Led-Hed: Led-Hed most people are nice if you prefix the question with "I searched google and didn't find an answer..." |
| [23:32:00] | xris: | then you'll get something like "search the ivtv mailing list" |
| [23:32:00] | Led-Hed: | I'm not trying to bash anyone. I just know how he feels. |
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| [23:32:00] | kjp: | hello |
| [23:32:00] | Led-Hed: | xris, ya, to a n00b it just feels like a run around and the people with the answers dont want to help... |
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| [23:33:00] | xris: | Led-Hed: could be.. does to experienced people sometimes, too... esp. when searching doesn't turn up much. |
| [23:33:00] | PaulWay: | Gaaah, cursed yum! |
| [23:33:00] | xris: | in reality, it's just us not knowing the answer. |
| [23:33:00] | kjp: | I'm having trouble with nuv2disc when trying to make a xvid. it says it's starting to transcode but then it stops only about 10 seconds in. I've tried looking at logs but nothing there seems out of place |
| [23:33:00] | ftwig: | hello everybody. Ime setting up a mythtv box with ubuntu breezy and a nova-t card. Trying to get the hardware working at the moment. |
| [23:34:00] | xris: | nuv2disc makes xvids? |
| [23:34:00] | xris: | kjp: try nuvexport |
| [23:34:00] | kjp: | xris: says so... |
| [23:34:00] | PaulWay: | I've got the 686 libquicktime package installed, and yet it's saying it can't find anything that provides libquicktime.so.0 for dependencies. |
| [23:34:00] | kjp: | xris: well it's calling nuv export |
| [23:34:00] | ftwig: | what I am trying to work out is how to create a channelsconf file so I can test my card with xine. |
| [23:34:00] | xris: | kjp: then nuvexport --debug |
| [23:35:00] | kjp: | xris: and the nuv2disc wraps it in a nice gui so I don't have to dig out the keyboard. |
| [23:35:00] | PaulWay: | ftwig: where are you? |
| [23:35:00] | xris: | kjp: but nuvexport is obviously failing... and the only way to debug that is by hand. |
| [23:35:00] | kjp: | xris: seems to be working fine here by hand ... |
| [23:35:00] | Led-Hed: | PaulWay, it may not be linked correctly or ldconfig may need to be re-run |
| [23:36:00] | xris: | kjp: so nuvexport by itself works, but via nuv2disc doesn't? |
| [23:36:00] | PaulWay: | ldconfig! Why didn't I think of that! |
| [23:36:00] | Led-Hed: | PaulWay, try this: echo $QTDIR |
| [23:36:00] | kjp: | xris: well |
| [23:36:00] | PaulWay: | Led-Hed: /usr/lib/qt-3.3 |
| [23:36:00] | kjp: | xris: it ran, but it doesn't seem to be exporting anything. |
| [23:37:00] | Led-Hed: | is that where its installed? |
| [23:37:00] | xris: | kjp: thus... run nuvexport by hand with --debug |
| [23:37:00] | PaulWay: | And it seems to be installed there... |
| [23:37:00] | Led-Hed: | humm, not sure then... did you do the ldconfig? |
| [23:37:00] | kjp: | xris: no you don't understand. I'm *running* nuvexport by hand with debug |
| [23:37:00] | PaulWay: | Actually, though, libquicktime isn't in there. |
| [23:37:00] | xris: | http://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/wiki/debug |
| [23:37:00] | kjp: | xris: it asked a slew of questions |
| [23:37:00] | kjp: | xris: then dumped this to the screen. |
| [23:37:00] | xris: | kjp: follow that link |
| [23:37:00] | Led-Hed: | PaulWay, do a locate -u (this will take some time) then search for it |
| [23:38:00] | PaulWay: | doing find /usr -name libquicktime.so.0 |
| [23:38:00] | kjp: | xris: well I won't post it here but it said "forking... blah power trip.avi 2>&1 |
| [23:39:00] | kjp: | xris: well it looks like nuvexport --debug did it's thing just fine. |
| [23:39:00] | kjp: | xris: but it doesn't seem to move me closer to getting it to make a xvid |
| [23:39:00] | PaulWay: | Anyone know how to work vcdimager? |
| [23:40:00] | xris: | kjp: read the wiki entry I posted |
| [23:40:00] | Led-Hed: | PaulWay, is QT in your path? |
| [23:40:00] | PaulWay: | one moment, afk |
| [23:40:00] | kjp: | xris, look man, I'm not trying to be difficult. I read the wiki entry you linked to. that doesn't help. all it does is say that --debug doesn't run anything, just prints to screen what it would run |
| [23:41:00] | xris: | kjp: I wrote that. it also tells you what to DO with the output |
| [23:42:00] | kjp: | sigh, and I read it, and as I said... it seems nuvexport is working fine. |
| [23:42:00] | xris: | kjp: I don't care about nuvexport.. I care about the programs that nuvexport runs. |
| [23:42:00] | xris: | nuvexport is just a wrapper script |
| [23:43:00] | kjp: | right, and what I'm saying is that ffmpeg is doing it's thing here in the other window |
| [23:43:00] | jd86: | ugh i just read so much about this damned stupid thing and i'm tired of trying to get this card to work |
| [23:43:00] | kjp: | xris: which seems to indicate that what nuvexport calls, is working fine as well. |
| [23:43:00] | kjp: | jd86: whats your problem? |
| [23:44:00] | xris: | kjp: ok. you didn't say that before. just that --debug did its thing |
| [23:44:00] | xris: | kjp: so kill the manual run, and run nuvexport without --debug and see if that works. |
| [23:44:00] | kjp: | xris: then I said i ran it, and it appeared that nuvexport (and its ancilary things) were running |
| [23:44:00] | jd86: | kjp: i have one of those bttv (i think) cards.. its a hauppague card with a cx88xx chip on it... i can get video working, but sound (even out of the line out) doesn't work |
| [23:44:00] | xris: | maybe nuv2disc is using --transcode, too... |
| [23:44:00] | kjp: | xris: I am running a nuvexport job right now, it's in the ffmpeg stage |
| [23:45:00] | kjp: | xris: want me to kill that ? |
| [23:45:00] | kjp: | jd86: unmute it |
| [23:45:00] | jd86: | the lineout would be muted? |
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| [23:45:00] | jd86: | i mean i have amplified speakers plugged right into the line out and it still doesn't have any sound.. and i figure that would be a pretty good indicater of where the problem lays.. |
| [23:46:00] | kjp: | xris: it's going slowly (1.75 fps) but it's going. (thats about the speed I expected this is a Nehemiah 2 sucker.) |
| [23:46:00] | kjp: | jd86: of course the lineout would be muted. |
| [23:46:00] | jd86: | kjp: how do you unmute it then..? |
| [23:46:00] | kjp: | xris: so what do you think ? |
| [23:46:00] | jd86: | the line out on the tv card? |
| [23:46:00] | kjp: | jd86: I would suspect you use a mixer. |
| [23:46:00] | jd86: | yea , but mixer to turn line out on, on the actual tv tuner? |
| [23:47:00] | kjp: | yes... |
| [23:47:00] | jd86: | how? |
| [23:47:00] | kjp: | jd86: use a mixer. |
| [23:47:00] | xris: | jd86: unmute the line in, set it for recording, unmute the line out. |
| [23:47:00] | xris: | the tuner card doesn't have any software settings for audio volume |
| [23:47:00] | jd86: | xris: thats what i mean, but theres no sound coming out of it |
| [23:48:00] | xris: | jd86: bttv card? |
| [23:48:00] | jd86: | xris: i've stuck amplified speakers in the line out on the tv tuner... and i can't hear sound |
| [23:48:00] | kjp: | xris: hm, I thought the older bttv cards did have software for audio volume |
| [23:48:00] | jd86: | xris: unfortunatly |
| [23:48:00] | jd86: | kjp: i have the one with the audio capture, but i read that it is rare to have a card that is bttv that the audio catpure works |
| [23:48:00] | xris: | jd86: do you know that the card isn't busted? mine was always at a fixed volume setting. |
| [23:48:00] | kjp: | jd86: I had one worked fine. |
| [23:49:00] | kjp: | xris: any ideas on the nuv2disc thing? |
| [23:49:00] | jd86: | its a hauppague one, i dont knwo what card exactly... xris i dont know if its working or what... i dont think that just audio would die and video work fine? i dont know maybe tho |
| [23:49:00] | xris: | kjp: not if nuv2disc isn't using --transcode |
| [23:49:00] | kjp: | xris: how can I tell ? |
| [23:49:00] | xris: | jd86: totally plausible |
| [23:49:00] | jd86: | xris: :( |
| [23:49:00] | jd86: | everything is against me today. |
| [23:49:00] | xris: | kjp: no clue there other than ps |
| [23:49:00] | jd86: | plausable.. but likely? |
| [23:50:00] | jd86: | can software (in whatever manner) turn off that line out on the card? i read how mythtv used to contorl volume on the card.. is that just for the capture thing or is it for the line out too? |
| [23:50:00] | kjp: | xris: this is all it says in the logs:Conversion engine is currently busy XVID Transcoding: |
| [23:50:00] | kjp: | began at 10/17 05:27:28 PM |
| [23:50:00] | kjp: | 09070058_Good_Eats_Power_Trip |
| [23:50:00] | xris: | weird |
| [23:51:00] | xris: | dunno. I just use nuvexport on its own in a screen session.. much easier to control |
| [23:51:00] | kjp: | jd86: sigh. |
| [23:51:00] | kjp: | jd86: I'm going to make a prediction |
| [23:51:00] | kjp: | jd86: your card is being auto detected |
| [23:52:00] | kjp: | and you really have no idea what you have |
| [23:52:00] | kjp: | so you don't know if it's autodetecting the right tuner type |
| [23:52:00] | kjp: | it sounds to me like you've got it working almost, because the tuner's audio section is clearly not working. |
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| [23:52:00] | kjp: | figure out what kind of card you have and make sure your system is loading the modules right |
| [23:54:00] | PaulWay: | Led-Hed: it looks like libquicktime is in /usr/lib |
| [23:55:00] | Led-Hed: | PaulWay, what distro are U using? |
| [23:55:00] | PaulWay: | FC4 |
| [23:55:00] | Led-Hed: | hold |
| [23:55:00] | PaulWay: | holding |
| [23:56:00] | PaulWay: | also doing an ldconfig |
| [23:56:00] | PaulWay: | that took a while... |
| [23:56:00] | kjp: | jd86: you can also use btaudio |
| [23:58:00] | Led-Hed: | PaulWay, Yup mine too. |
| [23:59:00] | Led-Hed: | link that path to the /usr/lib/qt-3.3 path |
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