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Sunday, October 16th, 2005, 00:11 UTC
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[00:22:00] eiggirC: okay – I have a myth box running, xawtv finds the tuner card fine. I'm in New Zealand and have sourced a tv_grab_nz script that appears to do te right thing
[00:22:00] eiggirC: how to I tell mythtv_setup to use it? I copied the tv_grab_nz to /usr/bin with all the others
[00:22:00] eiggirC: but I'm missing an entry in a file or someting
[00:22:00] eiggirC: any ideas?
[00:22:00] Snivek: I am attempting to compile MythTV 0.18.1 on slackware and am getting mythepg errors during make
[00:22:00] eiggirC: epg is episode guide
[00:23:00] eiggirC: thats about all I know sorry
[00:23:00] Snivek: no prob, anyone else have any ideas?
[00:24:00] Snivek: ollect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[00:24:00] Snivek: make[2]: *** [mythepg] Error 1
[00:24:00] Snivek: make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/MythTV/mythtv-0.18.1/programs/mythepg'
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[00:41:00] banyan: Hi. Just trying to put a second card in my backend. (yeowch!) My current card is a PVR350, the new one is a PVR250. I get an error in my dmesg log about getting the encoder firmware version.
[00:42:00] banyan: I gather that I don't have to run two separate ivtv modules to do this... is there any configuration I may have missed on this?
[00:42:00] xris: banyan: search the ivtv mailing list archives... it gets a little messy when you're running two different ivtv cards (and no, I don't know the answer, just that one is out there)
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[00:46:00] banyan: It does seem to auto-detect things up to a certain level correctly.
[00:47:00] Charnjibber_: Hi there. I got my new MythTV box running fine, almost... I have Hauppauge WinTV Nova and PVR-350 installed ok. Everything works fine, but why do I have PVR-350 video only when watching Live TV. I do not have any analogue channels setup.
[00:48:00] Charnjibber_: I know it is video feed from PVR-350 because if I tune it manually image changes...
[00:48:00] xris: Charnjibber_: did you set up a listings source for it in mythtv-setup?
[00:49:00] Charnjibber_: uh, do you mean that do I have input source for PVR-350? Yes, I do. does it matter?
[00:51:00] xris: well, mythtv won't know what channels exist on the 350 unless you tell it which channel listing source it uses (meaning, you set up the listing source, and then you set which source the 350 uses — 2 different sections of mythtv-setup)
[00:51:00] Charnjibber_: well, I do not care less for channels from 350, I would like to prefer Nova-T.
[00:52:00] Charnjibber_: So, I would like to have only DVB-T channels (for a starter) to keep things simple.
[00:52:00] Charnjibber_: :-)
[00:53:00] xris: ok.. so you ask why the 350 doesn't work, and then you say that you don't want it to work? what's the point?
[00:57:00] Charnjibber_: no, what does not work is live-tv. It shows video only from 350. sorry if I was not clear enough. Bit a late now..
[00:58:00] Charnjibber_: Is this default? video only from /dev/video0 when watching live-tv?
[00:58:00] mmurphy: anyone know where i can find lircd-g.conf for the grey pvr remote on the web?
[00:59:00] xris: so it won't switch to the dvb card when you press Y to switch between cards?
[01:00:00] AppleBoy: xris: do you perhaps know anything about the HD3000?
[01:00:00] xris: AppleBoy: sorry, mine's an air2pc
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[01:02:00] Charnjibber_: xris: no, it does not.
[01:03:00] xris: Charnjibber_: then I have no clue... finish setting up your cards so that both the dvb card and 350 have video sources, then maybe it'll wor
[01:03:00] FunkyELF: so I got a .asoundrc file which is supposed to set the default output as the s/pdif out which which seems to work with xmms when I set the output to alsa, but can't get it to work with mplayer or mythtv
[01:03:00] xris: work
[01:03:00] xris: FunkyELF: did you compile mythtv with alsa support?
[01:03:00] FunkyELF: xris, I'll check
[01:03:00] FunkyELF: xris, yeah, it is in my USE variables
[01:03:00] Charnjibber_: xris: OK, thanks. I'll try to create some channels for 350.
[01:04:00] xris: FunkyELF: not what I asked. simply telling mythtv to do it won't make it fail if it can't find the headers.
[01:05:00] xris: anyway, wish I could be more help than that, but that's all I know.
[01:05:00] FunkyELF: xris, hrm...when I got mplayer to work when I passed it -ao alsa
[01:05:00] FunkyELF: so maybe it is just that mythtv is using oss instead of alsa
[01:07:00] mmurphy: can anyone tell me where to download lircd-g.conf its not in my /usr/share/doc/ivtv-0.0/
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[01:08:00] banyan: hm, damn. I'm not really getting much info.
[01:09:00] jave: im trying to get a remotec bw6130 to work with lirc, using atrpms on fc4, but its not going well. any hints?
[01:09:00] Snivek: I am attempting to compile MythTV 0.18.1 on slackware and am getting mythepg errors during make
[01:10:00] banyan: oh, wait a minute. is it possible that this is a bttv card and not a 250 at all, even though it says WinTV on it?
[01:13:00] PatrickDK: wintv is bttv
[01:13:00] banyan: and it detects using an lspci -v as a PVR-250?
[01:14:00] PatrickDK: pvr-250 is 250
[01:14:00] PatrickDK: no
[01:14:00] PatrickDK: it would detect at bttv
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[01:15:00] banyan: OK. So, now I'm just left with the odd question of why the thing doesn't take the firmware.
[01:15:00] PatrickDK: what is the firmware error?
[01:17:00] FunkyELF: I think my database is hosed since I had the date set wrong. Now I have files showing up twice in my recordings. Can I just dump the whole database and start over? Does Myth expect there to be tables in there already or should I leave the tables and delete the rows in them?
[01:18:00] PatrickDK: hmm, it expects the tables
[01:18:00] PatrickDK: I think you can clean it, use the startup mysql script
[01:18:00] banyan: "timeout waiting for firmware"
[01:18:00] FunkyELF: PatrickDK, where is that script?
[01:18:00] PatrickDK: banyan, have you trieddifferent firmwares?
[01:19:00] PatrickDK: FunkyELF, the the mythtv dir
[01:19:00] PatrickDK: that you installed myth from
[01:19:00] banyan: Um, no. I have the one that works with my 350 but I could try others.
[01:19:00] PatrickDK: I would try others, I use the most recent one
[01:19:00] PatrickDK: as that is the one that works with my 350 the best
[01:19:00] FunkyELF: PatrickDK, what is the name of it?
[01:19:00] PatrickDK: I dunno about the 250 though
[01:19:00] PatrickDK: FunkyELF, no clue
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[01:26:00] banyan: PatrickDK, do you get your firmwares directly from the Hauppauge website or elsewhere?
[01:26:00] PatrickDK: the wiki
[01:30:00] jave: im a total newbie. I got mythtv running with the fc howto. but, why cant i control it with a mouse?
[01:30:00] PatrickDK: no
[01:32:00] Charnjibber_: I have now one channel for 350 which works ok. Changing channel to DVB-T source and pressing Y produces black screen and lock-up for a short time. After that I'm on initial screen again.
[01:37:00] jave: so its not possible to control myth with a mouse?
[01:39:00] AppleBoy: has anybody currently active gotten the HD3000 to work completely?
[01:46:00] mmurphy: root owns my recordsing dir ... drwxrx-rx-x .. i need to give my users permissions ... what would the chamod be?
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[01:47:00] xris: mmurphy: chmod a+r ? (as in "all, readable")
[01:47:00] yuriks: hi
[01:47:00] mmurphy: well the mmurphy useswhich defaultly logsin needs to wirte to it
[01:47:00] yuriks: does mythtv works with satelite tv?
[01:47:00] xris: jave: no
[01:47:00] xris: yuriks: sure
[01:48:00] mmurphy: xris: the mmurphy user logs in by default ... so that account would need write access
[01:48:00] yuriks: xris what hw do i use to make it work then?
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[01:49:00] yuriks: i have, hmmm, SKY latin america
[01:49:00] xris: mmurphy: then chmod 4775 on the directory, and put yourself into the group the directory is owned by.
[01:49:00] Charnjibber_: xris: For additional information, this is what mythfrontend outputted when I changed input card: http://pastebin.com/394912
[01:49:00] xris: yuriks: you'll need to find a dvb card that works with sky
[01:49:00] mmurphy: xris: how do i put yourself into the group the directory is owned by.
[01:50:00] xris: man usermod
[01:50:00] mmurphy: thanks :-P
[01:50:00] jave: xris: thanks
[01:50:00] xris: Charnjibber_: sounds like the dvb card isn't set up properly
[01:51:00] Charnjibber_: xris: but recording works fine...
[01:51:00] xris: Charnjibber_: that's really weird
[01:52:00] Charnjibber_: xris: well, yeah. have to check back later. thanks anyway.
[01:52:00] mmurphy: xris: the group that created and owns it is root ... do i realy wanna add user to that group?
[01:52:00] xris: wish I could help more
[01:52:00] xris: mmurphy: man chrgoup (for the directory)
[01:53:00] xris: actually, that 4755 is wrong... chmod g+s the_directory
[01:53:00] xris: then change the group on the directory to something else.
[01:53:00] xris: that should force files created in the directory to be of that group...
[01:54:00] xris: personally, I just chmod 777 (rwx all) on the directory... the files come in readable by everyone by default... the frontend user never writes to the files, anyway.
[01:54:00] mmurphy: awe good idea
[01:54:00] yuriks: xris hmmm, wp says it uses an proprietary encrypted format, any chances of that working too?
[01:56:00] xris: yuriks: can't help you with that bit... I assume it's possible (some non-US services will rent you a smartcard that will plug into a dvb card to do the decryption) since there are plenty of UK SKY users.
[01:56:00] yuriks: yeah, my receiver has card-thingy
[01:57:00] jd86: I see the hardware requirements on the documentation, but whats the minimum network connections peed (wireles?? no?) cpu and memory for a frontend only box
[01:57:00] xris: yuriks: the trick is going to be finding a dvb card that works with your smartcard.
[01:57:00] yuriks: =/
[01:57:00] xris: jd86: 10bT should be fine
[01:58:00] xris: yuriks: my suggestion would be to join the -users mailing list and see if anyone else there uses the same service as you.
[01:58:00] xris: the other option is to do what I do and use an ir blaster and svideo to my sat receiver (dishnetwork)... not perfect, but it works well enough.
[01:58:00] xris: ok, back to housework... afk
[01:58:00] jd86: what about cpu/memory xris
[01:58:00] yuriks: but that way i would not be able
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[01:59:00] yuriks: to switch channels vie mythtv
[01:59:00] yuriks: would i?
[02:02:00] Charnjibber_: xris: this is very strange. Now it works! I'll have to poke around to figure out what happened.
[02:02:00] banyan: Now this is interesting. Different errors with the recommended firmware (mine was a rev old.)
[02:02:00] Charnjibber_: I guess I'm not going to sleep, after all... ;-)
[02:02:00] banyan: The 250 doesn't initialise because no encoder mailbox was found and no decoder mailbox was found.
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[02:06:00] PatrickDK: heh, recommended firmware didn't work for me
[02:06:00] PatrickDK: I had to use the newest
[02:08:00] banyan: With what kind of card?
[02:08:00] PatrickDK: 350
[02:08:00] banyan: huh. I better check to ensure mine is working then!
[02:08:00] PatrickDK: some versions the encoder wouldn't work, others the decoder
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[02:18:00] yuriks: hmm, my smartcard is made by NDS
[02:18:00] yuriks: wonder if i can search it up
[02:19:00] yuriks: hmmm
[02:19:00] yuriks: News Datacom
[02:19:00] yuriks: DRM, ouch
[02:24:00] yuriks: HAHAHAHA!
[02:24:00] yuriks: found out http://tool-man.org/examples/dragging.html
[02:24:00] yuriks: ops
[02:24:00] yuriks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Digibox
[02:24:00] yuriks: (dont bother me, i like to talk alone)
[02:24:00] yuriks: (actrually that was a joke)
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[02:32:00] Charnjibber_: I could not find anything crucial for how my setup did get to work. I run mythfrontend once as root, if that matter. Have to look further later.
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[02:33:00] DaveAsh2: hello all
[02:34:00] DaveAsh2: lookin for a litle help here trying to resurrect my mythbox
[02:35:00] DaveAsh2: please be nice I'm running mandriva
[02:35:00] DaveAsh2: got mysql working x seems to be working but having a little trouble with ivtv
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[02:37:00] PaulWay: DaveAsh2: hi!
[02:37:00] PaulWay: Haven't tried ivtv
[02:37:00] PaulWay: What's going wrong, though?
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[02:38:00] DaveAsh2: hi
[02:39:00] DaveAsh2: there are 3 options to install
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[02:39:00] PaulWay: mmmmm>
[02:39:00] PaulWay: s/>/?/
[02:39:00] DaveAsh2: dkms-ivtv, itvt-stable and ivtv-firmware rpms
[02:40:00] DaveAsh2: I currently have all three and mythsetup on capture card shows none insalled
[02:40:00] DaveAsh2: I'm not sure I need all three
[02:40:00] PaulWay: ivtv is the driver layer for some tv card, isn't it?
[02:40:00] DaveAsh2: aI have the pvr 350
[02:40:00] PaulWay: I would have thought that they wouldn't clash.
[02:41:00] PaulWay: Doesn't myth support the PVR 250/350 natively?
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[02:41:00] DaveAsh2: Not sure
[02:41:00] PaulWay: Or does it need ivtv to do this.
[02:41:00] DaveAsh2: I also have kernel multimedia
[02:41:00] PaulWay: I know that Myth supports a number of digital tv cards, two of which I'm using.
[02:42:00] DaveAsh2: well I'm using geforce4 mmx440 for the tvout
[02:42:00] FunkyELF: PaulWay, what's up?
[02:42:00] FunkyELF: You seem to know about the database behind myth
[02:42:00] PaulWay: DaveAsh2 is having problems getting a PVR350 running under Myth on mandriva
[02:43:00] DaveAsh2: to say the least
[02:43:00] PaulWay: FunkyELF: have you got a question of your own?
[02:43:00] FunkyELF: PaulWay, I was wondering what it takes to start myth up from scratch....like it was the first time. I got it all messed up when I had my time put in wrong and now I have duplicates recordings showing up
[02:43:00] PaulWay: DaveAsh2: I don't think I'm going to be much help, but I can try bouncing ideas.
[02:44:00] DaveAsh2: I'll go see if anyones awake on the mandriva channel
[02:44:00] PaulWay: FunkyELF: the easiest thing to do is to drop the mythconverg database and rebuild it from scratch, if you're willing.
[02:44:00] DaveAsh2: thanks
[02:44:00] FunkyELF: PaulWay, could I wipe out the database and re-create an empty (virgin one)?
[02:44:00] PaulWay: do a dump of it first: 'mysql-dump -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg > mythconverg.yyyymmdd.dump
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[02:45:00] FunkyELF: PaulWay, okay...are there scripts that I need to run to get it in it's "fresh state" ? or does myth expect an empty database?
[02:45:00] PaulWay: No, there's a script that creates the database table structure anew.
[02:45:00] ** PaulWay goes and looks on wilsonet.com's mythtv install page **
[02:47:00] FunkyELF: /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql all that does is set up the database and privilages, not create tables. I'm wondering when the tables get created?
[02:47:00] FunkyELF: when I run mythsetup as root?
[02:47:00] PaulWay: I don't know.
[02:47:00] PaulWay: I thought that was it.
[02:47:00] PaulWay: If that's the case it may be a bit easier.
[02:48:00] PaulWay: Do the dump of your database and then drop all the tables
[02:48:00] PaulWay: Hmmm – that probably involves typing in 50-odd table names. scratch that idea.
[02:48:00] PaulWay: Just drop the database and recreate it.
[02:49:00] PaulWay: Basically if you follow the steps of a standard install, then it should rebuild the table structures as new.
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[02:51:00] PaulWay: FunkyELF: does that make sense?
[02:51:00] FunkyELF: PaulWay, yeah...I'm just trying to get back into the gentoo wiki but my browser is acting up
[02:52:00] FunkyELF: i tried killing all firefox-bin processes but I'm left with one
[02:52:00] FunkyELF: yourname 9036 9023 0 18:25 pts/2 00:00:02 [firefox-bin] <defunct>
[02:52:00] PaulWay: does kill -9 work on it?
[02:52:00] FunkyELF: so now I can't get into my profile which had the page bookmarked. I could google for it but I'm pissed
[02:52:00] FunkyELF: nope -9 didn't work
[02:52:00] PaulWay: What's the parent process? ps -fp 9023
[02:53:00] PaulWay: It may be zombied and waiting for that process to clean up.
[02:53:00] FunkyELF: yourname 9023 9018 0 18:25 pts/2 00:00:00 /bin/bash /usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher
[02:54:00] FunkyELF: yeah...that worked...killing the parent
[02:54:00] PaulWay: Processes do that sometimes.
[02:55:00] FunkyELF: you see to know your way around linux pretty well....do you use it at work?
[02:55:00] PaulWay: Yeah.
[02:56:00] FunkyELF: thats cool I use Solaris at work sometimes
[02:56:00] PaulWay: Dual opteron machine running FC4.
[02:56:00] PaulWay: I worked with Solaris for years and years – since about 95.
[02:56:00] PaulWay: Back when SunOS 4.2 was still a pretty neat idea.
[02:57:00] ** PaulWay shakes nervously **
[02:57:00] FunkyELF: it is really sad what is happening to Sun
[02:57:00] jd86: :( where is my friend... he should definatly pick up his phone so i can convince him to go with me tomorrow to mit swapfest, so we can go tv tuner hunting ;-)
[02:57:00] FunkyELF: I like that they're open sourcing stuff tho.
[02:57:00] PaulWay: jd86: what are you looking for?
[02:57:00] jd86: a tuner?
[02:57:00] jd86: and other random junk
[02:57:00] jd86: dont want to go alone up to boston, its a bit of a ride from here (ri)
[02:57:00] PaulWay: FunkyELF: i.e. they've realised that there are thousands of geeks who will happily send in well-documented bug patches if they have the source.
[02:58:00] PaulWay: jd86: i.e. what kind of tuner? Go dvb if you can...
[02:58:00] jd86: yea.. stuff like taht goes fast
[02:58:00] jd86: how much is a dvb tuner generally?
[02:58:00] PaulWay: Digital TV is just great, if you've got the coverage.
[02:58:00] jd86: i dont know much about the entire dvb thing
[02:58:00] PaulWay: Well, I don't know what the prices are in the US, in Australia they're about $100 or so.
[02:59:00] jd86: can i just hook it up or do i have to call my cable company and add another thing for the digital thing?
[02:59:00] PaulWay: But I imagine they're considerably cheaper than $75 in the US.
[02:59:00] jd86: what card is decent?
[02:59:00] FunkyELF: PaulWay, I just think it is sad how nobody is buying their over-priced stuff. You used to buy a Sun box with a Sparc running Solaris, now from them you buy a Xeon or AMD64 running Linux.,,not their HW or SW
[02:59:00] PaulWay: If you're going Digital 'free to air' you just need a good UHF/VHF aerial.
[02:59:00] jd86: it _best_ not be raining again
[03:00:00] PaulWay: FunkyELF: The reality is that having a bunch of different chip manufacturers all producing small quantities of chips, each barred from using others' technology, means no-one wins.
[03:00:00] PaulWay: jd86: *chuckles*
[03:01:00] PaulWay: And the reality is that the AMD Opterons with Hypertransport kick _*everyone's*_ arse when it comes to bus throughput.
[03:02:00] PaulWay: jd86: if you're converting from a cable box, then go with something with on-board compression.
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[03:02:00] FunkyELF: is there a nice command to drop all tables in the database?
[03:02:00] PatrickDK: delete the database
[03:03:00] FunkyELF: drop mythconverg;
[03:03:00] PaulWay: FunkyELF: The easiest is to drop the database.
[03:03:00] jd86: PaulWay: i dont know how any of the dvb stuff works, i have bigger concerns right now like how do i get a wire to the back of that tv where the computer could go ... very bad location
[03:03:00] FunkyELF: didn't work...I don't know sql :-/
[03:03:00] PaulWay: you may have to say 'drop database mythconverg'
[03:03:00] FunkyELF: thats it
[03:04:00] PaulWay: drop needs to know what type of thing you're dropping, just in case you've got a table and an index called foo.
[03:04:00] FunkyELF: I'm gonna go in the other room and run mythsetup now
[03:04:00] PatrickDK: I can't believe we are going pay $100 for 64kbps, when I can get 1mbps for $129
[03:04:00] PaulWay: PatrickDK: what's this for?
[03:04:00] PatrickDK: just cause they want the colo server within hands reach
[03:04:00] PatrickDK: paulway, email server
[03:04:00] PaulWay: And they're going ISDN because they think it's more reliable than ADSL?
[03:04:00] PatrickDK: I didn't say isdn
[03:04:00] PatrickDK: I said colo
[03:05:00] PatrickDK: adsl/isdn are all shit
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[03:05:00] PatrickDK: give me oc48 or I refuse to put my servers on it
[03:05:00] PaulWay: you get 64kbps in colo? How do they make the pipe that small?
[03:05:00] PatrickDK: they don't, you pay per kbps
[03:05:00] PatrickDK: over a 100mbit switched network
[03:05:00] PatrickDK: heh, all colo places work like this
[03:05:00] PaulWay: I'm not sure I understand your situation. But don't worry about me :-)
[03:06:00] PatrickDK: you pay by what you use, not what pipe youhave
[03:06:00] PatrickDK: everyone gets a 100mbit switched, unless you request a 10mbit (for capping your stuff)
[03:06:00] PaulWay: FunkyELF: You've dropped the database – have you recreated it using the script?
[03:07:00] PatrickDK: it would be alittle hard to burst when you use 64kbit on a 64kbit line
[03:07:00] jd86: i miss my dedicated server :(
[03:07:00] PatrickDK: if this other money comes through, I will probably use it to pay for that server
[03:07:00] jd86: i used to run a gentoo rsync mirror, and mirror tons of open sourced stuff.. and a few sites but my cash flow isn't actually great (crappy job.. school.. that sort of thing)
[03:08:00] PaulWay: What I'd really like is to find a hosting company that didn't ask too many questions about what I was putting on a torrent server.
[03:08:00] PaulWay: I've got mixes that I've made myself, which of course are highly illegal according to the music barons, and unfortunately the torrent tracker is on my ADSL line.
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[03:10:00] PatrickDK: hmm, my current hosting place just says no IRC
[03:10:00] PatrickDK: anything elseis fair game
[03:12:00] jd86: ooh torrents make me scared
[03:12:00] jd86: ::shakes::
[03:12:00] PaulWay: ????
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[03:12:00] jd86: i've just gotten too many mpaa letters.
[03:13:00] piergi: hello
[03:13:00] piergi: eveybody
[03:14:00] piergi: anybody knows about s-video input?
[03:14:00] PaulWay: I haven't had that peculiar pleasure yet.
[03:14:00] PaulWay: Yes, it looks a bit like a PS/2 connector, piergi
[03:14:00] PaulWay: :-)
[03:14:00] piergi: i succeeded in connecting a video source to my card's vivo input
[03:15:00] piergi: but i don't know how to connect s-video input to /dev/video
[03:15:00] piergi: by the vay my card is an nvidia 6600 gt
[03:16:00] PaulWay: What's on /dev/video?
[03:16:00] piergi: thanks paul
[03:16:00] piergi: lemme check
[03:16:00] piergi: i dont' have it
[03:16:00] PaulWay: If you've only got one input on that card (and they usually only have one input) then it'll just reading from /dev/video
[03:16:00] piergi: ls /dev/video
[03:16:00] piergi: ls: /dev/video: No such file or directory
[03:17:00] PaulWay: 'ls /dev/vid*' ?
[03:17:00] piergi: yes, only one input
[03:17:00] piergi: ls /dev/vid*
[03:17:00] piergi: ls: /dev/vid*: No such file or directory
[03:17:00] PaulWay: Of course, I may have been smoking crack recently.
[03:18:00] jd86: PaulWay: dont want any crack letters !
[03:18:00] piergi: no sir
[03:18:00] piergi: i think that in some way
[03:18:00] piergi: s-video must go in a standard way
[03:18:00] piergi: to some pin of the pci express bus
[03:18:00] piergi: is it?
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[03:20:00] PaulWay: Well, I imagine it does; the question is where does it manifest itself in the /dev directory?
[03:20:00] PaulWay: This is where my knowledge disappears.
[03:20:00] PaulWay: Actually, this is where I disappear to mow my lawn.
[03:20:00] piergi: i just tried kdetv and it doesn't even start
[03:21:00] PatrickDK: hmm, video cards normally don't have an input
[03:22:00] PatrickDK: if you mean the s-video jack on your nvidea card, that isn't an input
[03:22:00] piergi: well indeed it is
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[03:22:00] PaulWay: Some do, PatrickDK
[03:22:00] piergi: i think it's called vivo
[03:22:00] PaulWay: But it may well be an output.
[03:22:00] PatrickDK: the 6600?
[03:22:00] piergi: video in video out
[03:22:00] piergi: yep
[03:22:00] piergi: it works in windows
[03:23:00] PatrickDK: what brand?
[03:23:00] piergi: gigabyte
[03:24:00] piergi: in fact it's got a device that connects to it and it dispatches input outputs etc
[03:25:00] ** FunkyELF goes in the other room to start xchat by his TV **
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[03:32:00] PatrickDK: ok, I take that back
[03:32:00] PatrickDK: according to gigabytes website, none of them capture video
[03:32:00] PatrickDK: only displays it
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[03:33:00] PatrickDK: an that little adaptor is just to output component and svideo
[03:33:00] PatrickDK: heh, looking at your videocard manual right now
[03:33:00] PatrickDK: oh, heh, I found one that has inputs
[03:33:00] PatrickDK: they don't list it on the website tough
[03:33:00] FunkyELF: Playing dvd://.
[03:33:00] FunkyELF: libdvdread: Could not open device with libdvdcss.
[03:33:00] FunkyELF: libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading
[03:33:00] FunkyELF: Couldn't open DVD device: /dev/dvd
[03:34:00] FunkyELF: my /dev/dvd is pointing to /dev/hda which is correct
[03:34:00] FunkyELF: I can mount /mnt/cdrom and see the video_ts folder
[03:36:00] yuriks: hmmm, how would you chat in your tv? >_>
[03:37:00] FunkyELF: you asking me?
[03:37:00] yuriks: you would use the remote to select letters? >_>
[03:37:00] yuriks: yeah
[03:37:00] FunkyELF: no...before I was in my bedroom on a cygwin session
[03:37:00] FunkyELF: now I'm out by my TV using the monitor / wireless keyboard
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[03:38:00] FunkyELF: I ordered a IR transmitter / reciever...wondering if I will even use it since my keyboard works
[03:38:00] FunkyELF: okay...so now I set up Myth to look at /mnt/cdrom and now I see this when I go to play the dvd....
[03:38:00] djperegrine: Do you think that I could run the front and backend on a mac mini?
[03:38:00] FunkyELF: Playing dvd://.
[03:38:00] FunkyELF: libdvdread: Couldn't find device name.
[03:38:00] FunkyELF: Reading disc structure, please wait...
[03:38:00] FunkyELF: libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
[03:38:00] FunkyELF: Can't open VMG info!
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[03:41:00] daktak: I have a dvico plus and lite, and in live tv, channel up and down only swithces between two channels.. if i type the number it works, any ideas?
[03:41:00] yuriks: hmmm, wireless kb
[03:42:00] yuriks: hmm, a wireless kb
[03:42:00] yuriks: thats a good ideia
[03:42:00] djperegrine: I have one
[03:42:00] djperegrine: it is nouce
[03:42:00] djperegrine: *noice
[03:42:00] yuriks: i thoguht on a keyboard, but the wire would be stupid
[03:44:00] FunkyELF: I added myself to the cdrom group....how do I make my system recognize that without logging out and then back in?
[03:44:00] FunkyELF: ...or is it not worth it and I should log off / back in?
[03:45:00] laga: log off & back in.
[03:45:00] FunkyELF: rgr
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[03:45:00] yuriks: lol
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[03:51:00] djperegrine: Can I have the frontend be connected to the backend via 802.11b wifi?
[03:51:00] djperegrine: would that work?
[03:52:00] GreyFoxx: It might work, but most people who try using 11b are disappointed
[03:52:00] GreyFoxx: 11g is usually fine
[03:52:00] djperegrine: yea
[03:52:00] GreyFoxx: "usually"
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[03:52:00] djperegrine: yea our router is in our "basement"
[03:52:00] GreyFoxx: 11b in theory has enough bandwidth, but rarely do you actually get it
[03:53:00] djperegrine: yea my LAN tends be pretty slow
[03:53:00] djperegrine: like no where near 11 mpbs
[03:53:00] djperegrine: I could get a crossover cable and just connect them though right?
[03:53:00] jd86: djperegrine: you do know its 11mbits/s not 11mbytes (you probably do, but alot of people complain about .11b to me, and say they cant xfer at 11mbytes/s and i have to explain that its mbit/s)
[03:54:00] djperegrine: oh yea
[03:54:00] GreyFoxx: djperegrine: Sure you could
[03:54:00] djperegrine: whatever, bits bytes :P
[03:54:00] jd86: djperegrine: 8 mbits in 1 mbytes if im' not horridly mistaken...
[03:54:00] yuriks: byte = bit*8
[03:54:00] djperegrine: yea
[03:55:00] djperegrine: sounds about right
[03:55:00] djperegrine: well basicly
[03:56:00] djperegrine: I have a mythtv box and I have a mac mini sitting around
[03:56:00] djperegrine: and my myth box is really loud
[03:56:00] djperegrine: just wondering what to do with it :P
[04:01:00] ShockValue: ok, so, i am trying to rip my dvd's to a file server mounted with samba. problem is, .VOB's are 4+ gigs... It appears samba can only 2gig... any suggestions on a workaround / fix?
[04:01:00] ShockValue: (semi-on-topic, mythdvd :)
[04:01:00] GreyFoxx: Don't use Samba
[04:01:00] ShockValue: Hmmm ok.. So how do i mount a NTFS share otherwise?
[04:02:00] GreyFoxx: Though to be honest I have 0 problem reading or writting >2G files over samba
[04:02:00] ShockValue: oh really? are you connected to a M$ machine on one end?
[04:02:00] GreyFoxx: No
[04:02:00] GreyFoxx: Well to be accurrate yes and no
[04:03:00] GreyFoxx: My GF's machine is a windows box
[04:03:00] GreyFoxx: and I have copied multiG files without a problem
[04:03:00] ShockValue: my googling has suggested that this is the real issue... something with the way windows treats large files vs. samba and not being able to handle larger than 2g.. perhaps that is old though
[04:03:00] GreyFoxx: my *nix boxes use nfs
[04:03:00] ShockValue: i wonder if windows can share via NFS :)
[04:04:00] GreyFoxx: I think there are unix tools you can use to mount an nfs share, not sure about serving one up. Not something I've really researched
[04:04:00] GreyFoxx: You could certainly check the Samba docs however with regard to any sort of limits
[04:05:00] ShockValue: appears NFS is possible with Windows... http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=324089 im gonna check it out, ive never been very happy with samba
[04:06:00] eiggirC: samba does up to 90 Gb files fine now
[04:06:00] eiggirC: your underlying filesystem has to support that size too – xfs is good
[04:06:00] eiggirC: ext2 still has limits, which ext3 seems to inherit
[04:06:00] ShockValue: the underlying file system is NTFS
[04:06:00] eiggirC: likely jfs works fine too. dunno about reiser
[04:06:00] eiggirC: ShockValue: should be fine then
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[04:08:00] ShockValue: somethign must be hozed on my end... mine craps out at 2g reliably every time
[04:08:00] eiggirC: are you running something old somewhere?
[04:08:00] GreyFoxx: There might be a config option that coul dbe affecting it ?
[04:08:00] eiggirC: check that the target can cope with a > 2Gb file, but make it locally
[04:09:00] ShockValue: build the system from scratch avout 2 months ago, with a couple updates in between, so nothing too old
[04:09:00] eiggirC: oh okay
[04:09:00] ShockValue: eiggirC: good idea
[04:09:00] ShockValue: wonder how to creat a 2g file in windoz :)
[04:09:00] eiggirC: its not a redhat 6 box or something that has been upgraded lots :)
[04:09:00] eiggirC: ShockValue: copy vobs from a DVD ?
[04:09:00] ShockValue: nah its all bleeding edge gentoo stuff
[04:10:00] ShockValue: eiggirC: my windows box doesnt have a dvd player... its just a big dumb fileserver
[04:10:00] eiggirC: try dos... copy /b bigfile+bigfile+bigfile... reallybigfile
[04:10:00] eiggirC: something like that
[04:10:00] eiggirC: or make a zip of your entire /windows dir
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[04:18:00] nicedreams: what do I put for the dvd path if I'm using Ubuntu? I choose optical disks and then play dvd and nothing happens.
[04:19:00] nicedreams: fstab says /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0
[04:19:00] ShockValue: \dev/hdc
[04:19:00] ShockValue: although that is strange.. usually its mounted as /dev/dvd or /dev/cdrom or something
[04:19:00] nicedreams: i thought so too... i'll try /dev/hdc
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[04:20:00] nicedreams: do i have to restart myth for it to take effect?
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[04:22:00] funkyelf: is there a way, like if you're watching live TV to save the last 30 minutes that you just watched?
[04:22:00] ShockValue: and delete the first 30? or just save your position?
[04:22:00] ShockValue: nicedreams: shouldnt have to no...
[04:23:00] nicedreams: still isn't working...i'm trying to figure it out
[04:23:00] ShockValue: nicedreams: honestly, i would read a howto on getting a dvd player to work in linux, and skip mythtv all together until you have it working
[04:23:00] funkyelf: like....say you watch an entire half hour program, then you want to save it
[04:23:00] nicedreams: that's what i'm doing  :)
[04:23:00] nicedreams: i'll probably ask another question soon though
[04:23:00] nicedreams: lol
[04:23:00] ShockValue: :)
[04:24:00] nicedreams: do you know how to play a dvd with mplayer?
[04:24:00] nicedreams: do i have to mount the dvd first?
[04:24:00] ShockValue: i use xine.. not sure..
[04:24:00] ShockValue: i dont think you do actually
[04:24:00] nicedreams: what should I put in mythtv for xine then
[04:24:00] nicedreams: that was my problem
[04:24:00] nicedreams: i would rather use xine
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[04:24:00] ShockValue: sec.
[04:25:00] nicedreams: thx
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[04:25:00] ShockValue: xine -pfhq --post tvtime:method=Greedy2Frame,enable=1,pulldown=vektor,framerate_mode=full,judder_c orrection=yes,use_progressive_frames=yes --post chroma_filter=1 --post unsharp:luma_amount=0.5 -A alsa -V xv --auto-scan dvd
[04:25:00] ShockValue: but dont use that... try this
[04:25:00] nicedreams: woah
[04:25:00] nicedreams: lol
[04:25:00] ShockValue: xine -pfhq -V xv --auto-scan dvd
[04:26:00] ShockValue: all that other crap is to just clean up the picture and make it a bit sharper
[04:26:00] ShockValue: get normal playing working first :)
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[05:05:00] nicedreams: k i'm back and have dvd working
[05:05:00] nicedreams: how do I get mythtv to be the forground app when I exit xine? Like when I exit xine from playing a dvd through mythtv, I have to mouse click and then I can control mythtv again
[05:06:00] daktak: good question nicedreams, i have no window manager and have the smae problem
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[05:07:00] Niosop: hello, I'm|
[05:07:00] Niosop: \ ]
[05:07:00] Niosop: sorry, baby. I'm using mythtv w/ a pvr-350. Is there any way to play avi's using it?
[05:08:00] nicedreams: now that is annoying
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[05:08:00] nicedreams: at least it works now
[05:08:00] daktak: nicedreams: what window magager are you using?
[05:08:00] nicedreams: i'm testing it in gnome before I put it on the box I want to use
[05:09:00] nicedreams: how do I watch a divx movie from a cdrom?
[05:10:00] daktak: nicedreams: if you have mythtv control/monitor your cd/dd drive then when you go into the watch videos part it should show up,
[05:10:00] daktak: nicedreams: if you have also browse view and the option where you dont need to scan to pick up the files
[05:11:00] nicedreams: i don't think i have that. how do i get that going?
[05:11:00] daktak: mythvideo
[05:11:00] AppleBoy: anybody here use a HD3000?
[05:12:00] daktak: nicedreams: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-18.html
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[05:15:00] nicedreams: thx for the daktak
[05:15:00] nicedreams: i'll brb...i have to make a little dinner
[05:17:00] defaultro: hey guys, how's pvr 150, does it work well now with mythtv?
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[05:26:00] nicedreams: i have mythvideo installed
[05:26:00] nicedreams: how do i play divx from cd?
[05:26:00] nicedreams: is it the same as playing a dvd?
[05:30:00] cosmo_: anyone use a usb gamepad as a remote for their mythbox?
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[06:10:00] yuriks: FACT: UnderNet ppl are bastards
[06:12:00] Jay: I have a machine that I run both frontend and backend on that works fine and I have an amd64 machine that runs frontend only. It connects to the backend on the other machine. The live tv works fine on the amd64 machine, but when I got to the recorded programs, it locks up. There is also no program guide on the amd64 machine.
[06:12:00] Jay: any ideas on what's wrong?
[06:13:00] Jay: I don't get any error messages on this issue.
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[06:48:00] taer: ok, so someone please aim me at the FAQ about "how do I record just new runs as opposed to reruns?" It seems that the database knows if its a rerun or a first air. I'm scheduling recordings via mythweb, is the option on the frontend only?
[06:49:00] djperegrine: I just do a custom record
[06:49:00] taer: is that a custom option?
[06:49:00] taer: coo
[06:49:00] djperegrine: its on the frontend
[06:49:00] djperegrine: yea
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[06:49:00] taer: alright. This is my myth box first night.
[06:49:00] djperegrine: noice
[06:49:00] taer: the tivo apparently gets mad disconnect from the sat.
[06:50:00] djperegrine: :(
[06:50:00] taer: so I'm frantically trying to remember my season passes
[06:50:00] taer: might borrow a sat dish/tv to get into the menu.
[06:50:00] taer: sorta lame. :)
[06:50:00] djperegrine: whats the rush?
[06:50:00] taer: wife
[06:50:00] djperegrine: lol
[06:50:00] taer: there are shows being missed.
[06:50:00] djperegrine: you can also set it so it records in a spot every week
[06:51:00] taer: thats what I was doing for the ones I know of.
[06:51:00] djperegrine: yea
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[06:51:00] taer: possibly a hack I could do to mythweb to make it friendlier to tivo converts.
[06:52:00] taer: now, just gotta get the remote working. Just need the lircrc file
[06:52:00] taer: anyone here have a streamzap config?
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[07:30:00] ShockValue: ok, mounting a share with fstab doesnt work right (smb kernel bug).. but it does when i mount it as a user via smbmount. how can i set this up to run before mythbackend starts, etc?
[07:41:00] rjune: rc.locaql
[07:41:00] rjune: rc.local even
[07:41:00] rjune: or boot.local on suse
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[07:44:00] poonj: hey guys, is there a way to get linux to eject a cd from the DVD-ROM by pushing the button, without having to umount it through gnome or the console?
[07:44:00] mchou: anyone here running on a motorola cable modem?
[07:45:00] mchou: poonj: man eject? :)
[07:46:00] poonj: mchou, how do you change dvd's in myth?
[07:46:00] poonj: do you exit the program?
[07:46:00] mchou: how the hell do I know? I dont watch dvds in myth
[07:47:00] mchou: and dvds to play dont get mounted in the first place......
[07:48:00] poonj: okay..
[07:49:00] mchou: and I just tried playing a dvd thru myth. I dont see the problem
[07:49:00] mchou: plays and ejects fine
[07:49:00] poonj: umm, the media mounts for me
[07:49:00] mchou: haha, you must be using mystery crap like gentoo
[07:50:00] poonj: I'm using debian
[07:51:00] mchou: now that I didnt expect :)
[07:53:00] Cardoe: mchou: you're an idiot
[07:53:00] Cardoe: mchou: complete idiot
[07:53:00] mchou: Cardoe: stfu
[07:54:00] djperegrine: Yep
[07:54:00] Cardoe: mchou: then don't say stupid things
[07:54:00] mchou: Cardoe: you're the gentoo zealot
[07:54:00] Cardoe: no I'm just intelligent enough to realize his issue several lines up.
[07:55:00] Cardoe: and not make stupid comments like "How the hell should I know? I don't use it. It worked for me moron!"
[07:55:00] mchou: so? help him instead of calling me names.
[07:55:00] Cardoe: and "oh you must be using mystery crap like gentoo"
[07:55:00] mchou: Cardoe: so what?
[07:55:00] Cardoe: so let's sit and think
[07:55:00] Cardoe: if the media is getting mounted
[07:56:00] Cardoe: there's a data partition on there.
[07:56:00] mchou: lol
[07:56:00] Cardoe: Which means it's a DVD with some of those "fun" add-ons
[07:56:00] Cardoe: Why would it get automounted?
[07:56:00] Cardoe: hmmm..
[07:56:00] Cardoe: well he said using Gnome
[07:56:00] mchou: wow, you are sherlock
[07:56:00] Cardoe: so sounds like Gnome Volume Manager
[07:56:00] mchou: lol
[07:56:00] mchou: I'm running GVM
[07:56:00] mchou: and I got fun crap on this DVD too
[07:57:00] mchou: so stfu regarding idiocy
[07:57:00] Cardoe: And for your info, Gentoo doesn't do what you don't configure it to do
[07:58:00] Cardoe: Desktop->Preferences->Removable Drives and Media Preferences
[08:03:00] djperegrine: mchou you are acting pretty stoopid
[08:04:00] mchou: djperegrine: right, you're the shining example of Einstein
[08:04:00] djperegrine: Did I say that?
[08:05:00] mchou: No, I kust said it, fool
[08:05:00] mchou: just*
[08:06:00] djperegrine: 8-|
[08:08:00] poonj: Cardoe, thanks...I got it from another channel
[08:08:00] poonj: Cardoe, the weird thing thats happening now is tht whenever I exit mythdvd to stop playing, the player automatically ejects the DVD
[08:08:00] poonj: is that normal?
[08:10:00] Cardoe: never used MythDVD
[08:10:00] Cardoe: So I don't know if that's in the code.
[08:10:00] Cardoe: hang on
[08:10:00] poonj: umm okay
[08:11:00] Cardoe: doesn't depend on eject...
[08:11:00] poonj: ummmm
[08:11:00] Cardoe: hrm
[08:11:00] poonj: could it be in the mplayer command line?
[08:11:00] mchou: Cardoe: go on, Einstein :)
[08:12:00] Cardoe: poonj: yep
[08:12:00] Cardoe: poonj: what's the mplayer command line used?
[08:12:00] Cardoe: mchou: I'm actually trying to figure it out
[08:12:00] poonj: mplayer dvd:// -dvd-device %d -fs -zoom -vo xv
[08:12:00] Cardoe: mchou: rather then sitting in here and trying to blame distros.
[08:13:00] Cardoe: not mplayer
[08:13:00] mchou: Cardoe: I dont blame distros, I blame clueless people that use gentoo
[08:14:00] poonj: weird..
[08:14:00] poonj: my thing is going haywire
[08:14:00] poonj: it keeps popping out and in
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[08:24:00] Rince: question: I am watching Formula 1 right now and my frontend always does a "prebuffering pause". why is that? I even switched from WLAN to cable network, but this hasn't helped... is the backend too busy streaming or where is the problem?
[08:25:00] PaulWay: Is this only at the start of the playback or every once in a while?
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[08:25:00] Rince: no, every five seconds or so
[08:25:00] Rince: 2005-10–16 08:25:37.967 prebuffering pause
[08:25:00] Rince: 2005-10–16 08:25:39.910 prebuffering pause
[08:25:00] Rince: 2005-10–16 08:25:41.375 prebuffering pause
[08:25:00] Rince: 2005-10–16 08:25:42.948 prebuffering pause
[08:25:00] Rince: 2005-10–16 08:25:44.836 prebuffering pause
[08:25:00] Rince: 2005-10–16 08:25:46.526 prebuffering pause
[08:26:00] PaulWay: This sounds like a problem with your front end not being able to display fast enough.
[08:26:00] Rince: ok
[08:26:00] PaulWay: Is this program in HD where everything else you watch is SD?
[08:26:00] Rince: checking :)
[08:27:00] Rince: it's PAL-quality... put down to 640x480 in a Window of my X11
[08:27:00] Rince: Ah, found the cpu-eating program...
[08:27:00] Rince: far better .)
[08:27:00] PaulWay: Ah....
[08:27:00] PaulWay: What was it?
[08:27:00] Rince: firefox with a lot of webpages
[08:28:00] PaulWay: Banner ads – the curse of the browser.
[08:28:00] Rince: yes
[08:29:00] djperegrine: Rince, do you have teh xv drivers?
[08:29:00] Rince: hm, how can I see that?
[08:30:00] djperegrine: do you have mplayer?
[08:30:00] Rince: yes, I do
[08:31:00] djperegrine: yea I think if you go mplayer -vo vx blabla.mpg and it doesn't fail you have it
[08:33:00] Rince: vo: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local display)
[08:33:00] Rince: ==========================================================================
[08:33:00] Rince: Opening video decoder: [mpegpes] MPEG 1/2 Video passthrough
[08:33:00] Rince: VDec: vo config request – 384 x 288 (preferred csp: Mpeg PES)
[08:33:00] Rince: Could not find matching colorspace – retrying with -vf scale...
[08:33:00] Rince: Opening video filter: [scale]
[08:33:00] Rince: seems that it is happy about xv
[08:33:00] djperegrine: yea
[08:34:00] djperegrine: did it play?
[08:34:00] Rince: yes
[08:34:00] djperegrine: oh
[08:34:00] djperegrine: then you have it
[08:34:00] djperegrine: thats wierd
[08:34:00] Rince: why?
[08:34:00] djperegrine: its prob just your network then
[08:35:00] djperegrine: if you have xv it should be fast enough to fit the picture fullscreen
[08:35:00] djperegrine: unless your machine is really really crappy
[08:35:00] djperegrine: well maybe not that crappy I dunno
[08:35:00] Rince: well – it had a huge load
[08:37:00] SlicerDicer-: when I redo my kernel do I have to rebuild IVTV drivers like with nvidia kernel?
[08:37:00] mchou: SlicerDicer: why are you even asking?
[08:38:00] SlicerDicer-: cause I havent changed my kernel lol
[08:38:00] SlicerDicer-: I have no idea
[08:38:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou, you have permission to flame away :P
[08:38:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: you ever compile ivtv?
[08:38:00] SlicerDicer-: I am a n00bler *grins*
[08:38:00] mchou: takes like less than 1 min even on a slow machine......
[08:39:00] SlicerDicer-: well mchou when I used gentoo to build the ivtv drivers it check /usr/src/linux my kernel directory
[08:39:00] SlicerDicer-: I am just wondering if I needed to rebuild it thats all
[08:39:00] mchou: oh lord!
[08:39:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou, OMGWTFBBQ!!!
[08:39:00] SlicerDicer-: run for the hills its ROFLCOPTER ATTACK!! :)
[08:39:00] mchou: there's an example of what I'm talking about
[08:39:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[08:40:00] SlicerDicer-: so mchou hows it going with all those tuners?
[08:40:00] SlicerDicer-: getting them all working?
[08:40:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: have fun, "rebuild world"
[08:40:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: what tuners?
[08:40:00] SlicerDicer-: the new ones you got
[08:40:00] SlicerDicer-: the pvr 150's you got
[08:41:00] SlicerDicer-: new? used? I cant remeember hehe
[08:41:00] mchou: They all work. I've already sold a few
[08:41:00] SlicerDicer-: how many you got working?
[08:41:00] SlicerDicer-: 3?
[08:41:00] mchou: all of them
[08:41:00] SlicerDicer-: no in one box
[08:41:00] SlicerDicer-: how many things can you record at once
[08:41:00] mchou: dunno. Stuffed 5 in one box once
[08:42:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[08:42:00] SlicerDicer-: nice
[08:42:00] mchou: but they weren't all recording simult
[08:43:00] mchou: but ivtv is pretty screwed
[08:43:00] mchou: 3.8 has better picture quality than 4.0
[08:43:00] mchou: but 3.8 has some bugs
[08:43:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou, I still use old images
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[08:44:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: I figured out why my inet keeps going down......
[08:44:00] SlicerDicer-: whys that?
[08:45:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: you have cable modem?
[08:48:00] SlicerDicer-: well kinda yeah
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[08:48:00] SlicerDicer-: sorry was checking somthing
[08:48:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou, not your average cable modem :)
[08:48:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: who makes it?
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[08:48:00] SlicerDicer-: SMC
[08:49:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: does it have diagnostics that tells you signal strength?
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[08:49:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: SNR, etc.?
[08:49:00] SlicerDicer-: umm it just tells me the strength everytime I check status
[08:49:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: in what units? dBmV?
[08:50:00] djperegrine: doesn't iwconfig do that?
[08:50:00] mchou: djperegrine: lol
[08:50:00] SlicerDicer-: Downstream Power -4.8 dBmV
[08:50:00] mchou: djperegrine: we're talking cable modem......
[08:50:00] djperegrine: my bad
[08:50:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: yeah, exactly
[08:50:00] SlicerDicer-: why?
[08:51:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: mine said -14dBmV......
[08:51:00] PennStater^Lappy: Would anyone be able to tell me why I'm getting this error? --> http://pastebin.ca/25655
[08:51:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe mchou
[08:51:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou, Upstream Power 52.6 dBmV
[08:51:00] mchou: so I moved it ahead of my so called amplied splitters and it went to -4.0 dBmV :)
[08:52:00] mchou: amplified*
[08:52:00] mchou: 10 dB loss is pretty bad
[08:52:00] SlicerDicer-: why did you have splitters?
[08:52:00] SlicerDicer-: also I have 2 cableboxes and my internet running off the same socket without issue
[08:52:00] mchou: Structured wiring in house
[08:53:00] mchou: every room has cable spigot
[08:53:00] SlicerDicer-: ahh
[08:53:00] SlicerDicer-: it does here :P
[08:53:00] mchou: I'm flamed the fucking installers
[08:53:00] SlicerDicer-: unless the amplifier was in the wall
[08:53:00] SlicerDicer-: ?
[08:53:00] mchou: amp is in the wall
[08:53:00] SlicerDicer-: wtf?
[08:53:00] mchou: in a closet
[08:54:00] SlicerDicer-: had to hack open the wall?
[08:54:00] mchou: no. It was one of those "fancy" modular units
[08:54:00] SlicerDicer-: ohh
[08:54:00] mchou: kind of a mini-rack in a closet
[08:54:00] SlicerDicer-: errrm right....
[08:55:00] SlicerDicer-: why the hell would your house need a amp anyway
[08:55:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[08:55:00] SlicerDicer-: its not traveling that far...
[08:55:00] SlicerDicer-: I mean its not like you live in a 50 billion sqft house
[08:55:00] mchou: I've got at least 8 cable drops in my house
[08:55:00] SlicerDicer-: well thats why then
[08:55:00] mchou: every drop loses power, hence you need amp
[08:56:00] SlicerDicer-: are more than 5 active?
[08:56:00] mchou: yeah
[08:56:00] ** SlicerDicer- stamps nerd on mchou's forehead **
[08:56:00] mchou: they fucked up the amp in the install
[08:56:00] SlicerDicer-: scratch that
[08:56:00] ** SlicerDicer- stamps super ultra nerd on mchou's forehead **
[08:57:00] SlicerDicer-: that aint right though still
[08:57:00] SlicerDicer-: well glad to hear you got it sorted :)
[08:57:00] mchou: exactly. Which is why I flamed the installers
[08:57:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[08:57:00] mchou: I could have done a better job than they did
[08:57:00] mchou: damn freds
[08:57:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[08:58:00] SlicerDicer-: hope you did not pay for that install
[08:58:00] SlicerDicer-: and if you did they reeereeefunded it
[08:58:00] mchou: yes I did. Paid the extra premium when I bought the house
[08:58:00] SlicerDicer-: I got a 199$ install refunded due to incompentence
[08:58:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[08:58:00] mchou: that's it?
[08:59:00] mchou: $199?
[08:59:00] SlicerDicer-: well thats all the install was
[08:59:00] SlicerDicer-: all they did was stuck a router in the corner turned it on and said THERE!!! your good
[08:59:00] SlicerDicer-: then left basicly
[08:59:00] SlicerDicer-: the guy was a dickhead
[08:59:00] mchou: lol
[08:59:00] SlicerDicer-: so they came out fixed it and refunded it
[08:59:00] mchou: what kind of router?
[09:00:00] SlicerDicer-: linksys comcast craptastic thing
[09:00:00] SlicerDicer-: never worked right anyway
[09:00:00] mchou: linksys?
[09:00:00] SlicerDicer-: home networking thingo they had going
[09:00:00] SlicerDicer-: it was high bandwith 4 down for cheap
[09:00:00] SlicerDicer-: so I said sure
[09:00:00] SlicerDicer-: at that time it was high anyway
[09:00:00] mchou: linksys isnt too bad if you have the firmware hackable version
[09:01:00] SlicerDicer-: umm... this was a comcast one
[09:01:00] SlicerDicer-: it was their firmware
[09:01:00] mchou: lol
[09:01:00] SlicerDicer-: yeah...
[09:01:00] mchou: no wonder
[09:01:00] SlicerDicer-: now I have a SMC with SMC firmware
[09:01:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[09:01:00] SlicerDicer-: its from comcast buisness
[09:02:00] SlicerDicer-: I will tell you what its nice just to get through to tech support inside 2 mins or less
[09:02:00] SlicerDicer-: and thats level 3 tech support :)
[09:02:00] SlicerDicer-: they are the really good guys they know what they are doing
[09:02:00] SlicerDicer-: so you dont have some dipshit that does not know what a ping is LOL!!
[09:02:00] mchou: screw that. I'll be damned if I need to stick around for 4 hrs. for a tech to show up.
[09:02:00] SlicerDicer-: I actually got one tech support person that did not know what a ping was
[09:03:00] SlicerDicer-: I laughed and hung up and called back
[09:03:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou, I am talking about when I call
[09:03:00] SlicerDicer-: I still have to wait the period for them to show up if work is to be done
[09:03:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: I'm talking about house calls :)
[09:04:00] SlicerDicer-: yeah I mean I may have to wait 30 mins :)
[09:04:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[09:04:00] SlicerDicer-: but you have to pay for that kinda service :)
[09:04:00] mchou: for biz they give you 1/2 appontment window?
[09:05:00] mchou: appointment*
[09:05:00] SlicerDicer-: well you call and they come
[09:05:00] SlicerDicer-: 24/7
[09:05:00] mchou: nice.
[09:05:00] SlicerDicer-: dude I pay 169$ a month
[09:05:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
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[09:06:00] mchou: ever see the movie "Goodbye Lenin?"
[09:06:00] SlicerDicer-: nope
[09:06:00] SlicerDicer-: brb
[09:06:00] mchou: See it.
[09:06:00] mchou: it's worthwhile. Get it from netflix
[09:07:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[09:07:00] SlicerDicer-: ever seen "cool hand luke?"
[09:08:00] mchou: yeah?
[09:08:00] SlicerDicer-: that movie is awesome now
[09:08:00] SlicerDicer-: what we have here is a failure to communicate :)
[09:08:00] SlicerDicer-: awesome line
[09:09:00] mchou: yeah, that's a pretty good movie
[09:09:00] SlicerDicer-: its old but I love the plot to it
[09:09:00] SlicerDicer-: I about laughed myself stupid when he busted the parking meter tops off
[09:10:00] mchou: why?
[09:10:00] SlicerDicer-: dunno just thought it was funny
[09:10:00] SlicerDicer-: somebody had to have snapped hard to do something like that
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[09:14:00] mchou: hmm, feel like a late nite wendy's run again
[09:14:00] SlicerDicer-: well time to see if I exploded my system
[09:17:00] ShockValue: anyone using a CIFS share?
[09:17:00] SlicerDicer-: hey mchou what do you think of ivtv 4.0
[09:18:00] SlicerDicer-: I am running 2.0 but is 4.0 decent?
[09:19:00] mchou: 4.0 isnt bad, but 3.8 was better PQ wise
[09:19:00] SlicerDicer-: ok
[09:20:00] SlicerDicer-: I will check it out
[09:20:00] mchou: 3.8 has audio bugs though
[09:20:00] mchou: so you cant win :)
[09:20:00] SlicerDicer-: 2.0 is nice
[09:20:00] SlicerDicer-: but portage seems to think I am garbage
[09:20:00] mchou: 2.0 is ok
[09:20:00] SlicerDicer-: is 4.0 better than 2.0
[09:21:00] mchou: is bmw better than a mercedes?
[09:21:00] SlicerDicer-: umm a Audi is :)
[09:21:00] mchou: lol
[09:21:00] mchou: Audi is the shits
[09:22:00] mchou: keeps breaking down on me
[09:22:00] SlicerDicer-: http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/audihood.jpg
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[09:22:00] SlicerDicer-: you drive a audi mchou?
[09:22:00] mchou: not any more :)
[09:22:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[09:23:00] SlicerDicer-: I love audi's they never break
[09:23:00] mchou: bullshit
[09:23:00] SlicerDicer-: I was going to say if yours was breaking down I could give you some tips
[09:23:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou, audi's are very testy but if you know how to deal with them they are great
[09:23:00] mchou: bah, bs
[09:23:00] SlicerDicer-: my 4000 ran to 216,000 miles and still runs fine for the new owner and everything is stock
[09:23:00] mchou: I want a reliable vehicle that is fun to drive
[09:23:00] SlicerDicer-: needs new suspension
[09:24:00] SlicerDicer-: ohh trust me mchou my new Audi V8 is fun and it shits and gets :)
[09:24:00] mchou: Is mercedes still a chrysler? :)
[09:25:00] SlicerDicer-: no
[09:25:00] SlicerDicer-: mercedes purchased chrysler
[09:25:00] mchou: they parted ways? :)
[09:25:00] SlicerDicer-: no
[09:25:00] SlicerDicer-: what audi did you own btw mchou?
[09:26:00] SlicerDicer-: just wondering
[09:26:00] mchou: RS4
[09:26:00] SlicerDicer-: ohh...
[09:27:00] SlicerDicer-: yeah those can be testy and very expensive
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[09:33:00] PaulWay: mchou: Go for a Subaru.
[09:33:00] mchou: Subarus are fun
[09:34:00] mchou: still need to test drive WRX
[09:34:00] SlicerDicer-: :/
[09:35:00] SlicerDicer-: PaulWay, quattro will pound subaru everytime
[09:35:00] PaulWay: The only annoying thing about the WRXes is the number of racerboys that get them with the flares and the kits and the uglification.
[09:35:00] mchou: haha
[09:35:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[09:36:00] mchou: you mean ricers
[09:36:00] PaulWay: Friends don't let friends p1mp their car 0ut.
[09:36:00] SlicerDicer-: PaulWay, people who rice out a audi get drive by'ed
[09:36:00] PaulWay: Well, if you can afford a WRX you're almost by definition not a riceboy.
[09:36:00] mchou: huh??
[09:36:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[09:36:00] mchou: a WRX is the ricerboy car
[09:37:00] PaulWay: Well, ok, it's the top-end ricerboy car.
[09:37:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou, ever seen a riced audi? well besides the one guy who used a iorning board on the 4000 to go to a ricer convention to slap them in the face that was awesome
[09:37:00] SlicerDicer-: did you ever see that?
[09:37:00] SlicerDicer-: it was awesome pictures
[09:37:00] mchou: no, missed that
[09:37:00] SlicerDicer-: iorning board as a wing
[09:37:00] PaulWay: Sounds bizarre. I must see it.
[09:38:00] SlicerDicer-: I am trying to find it hang on
[09:39:00] PaulWay: I thought I had it but it was just an article from a review (ironically) of a WRX GT.
[09:40:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[09:40:00] SlicerDicer-: I cant find it PaulWay
[09:41:00] SlicerDicer-: but it was funny as hell
[09:41:00] PaulWay: I don't know what they're priced in the US but in Australia you're still looking at the thick end of $41,000 to get a WRX with stock options.
[09:41:00] PaulWay: To p1mp it out you probably need another $5000 – $9000.
[09:41:00] PaulWay: These are not ricerboy price tags.
[09:41:00] SlicerDicer-: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_V8 btw PaulWay thats my car but I am going to replace the pictures on that with mine once I get a better camera to show all angles of that car :)
[09:43:00] PaulWay: Ricerboys take their honda civic, steal GT and Nismo stickers to put on it, and spend $5000 lowering the thing so they have to breathe in when they go over the white lines.
[09:43:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[09:43:00] PaulWay: I don't argue with Audis.
[09:43:00] SlicerDicer-: I seen ricers tear off peices of their car where I live with the speed bumps
[09:43:00] SlicerDicer-: I laugh everytime
[09:44:00] SlicerDicer-: bend rims break peices crunch exausts whatever
[09:44:00] SlicerDicer-: just break the car
[09:44:00] ShockValue: some guy at my work just got an S4.. its very nice
[09:44:00] PaulWay: Mind you, I never deliberatly try to piss ricerboys off because they're just plain FITH.
[09:44:00] SlicerDicer-: ShockValue, yeah the S4 is pretty nice if its the new one that is the micro V8
[09:44:00] ShockValue: it is.
[09:44:00] SlicerDicer-: awesome
[09:45:00] SlicerDicer-: that micro V8 is incredible
[09:45:00] ShockValue: sounds like its a turbine though, not a v8 :)
[09:45:00] SlicerDicer-: its the size of the audi JT but a V8
[09:45:00] SlicerDicer-: damn it I know way to much about audi's :)
[09:45:00] PaulWay: mchou: you could say that the WRX is the car ricerboys have wet dreams about owning.
[09:46:00] ShockValue: i have the audi's poor cousin.. vw 1.8T
[09:46:00] SlicerDicer-: ShockValue, hey the VW is nothing to sneeze at
[09:46:00] mchou: PaulWay: bs. I've seen plenty riced up WRX
[09:46:00] SlicerDicer-: they are really just as good as the audi without the fluff
[09:46:00] ShockValue: which gets me around pretty quick.. but it's not an s4 :)
[09:46:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[09:47:00] mchou: PaulWay: in US $25K gets you new stock WRX
[09:47:00] ShockValue: $!*!# this samba/cifs thing is killing me
[09:47:00] SlicerDicer-: ShockValue, is yours the TDI?
[09:47:00] PaulWay: mchou: of course – if you can afford the WRX, you can afford all the bolt-on optional extras to make you look all important.
[09:47:00] PaulWay: ShockValue: what's up with samba?
[09:47:00] ShockValue: tdi? no.. 1.8T.
[09:48:00] ShockValue: well samba wont copy a file over 2 gigs.. and I cant get it to mount with cifs
[09:48:00] ShockValue: mount error 5 = Input/output error
[09:48:00] ShockValue: Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)
[09:48:00] mchou: ShockValue: are you sure that's not a underlying fs issue?
[09:48:00] ShockValue: i just cranked the security on my 2k3 server way down (which i didnt need to do with smb) but it still no workie
[09:49:00] ShockValue: mchou: quite.. ive tested it every way i can think of.. i currently have a 12Gig file sitting locally on the NTFS drive that is shared
[09:49:00] PaulWay: ShockValue: are you copying to FAT32?
[09:49:00] mchou: and? where you copying to?
[09:49:00] ShockValue: wehen i copy a 3 gig file via a smb mount, it fails in the exact same place every time.. 2 gigs and change
[09:49:00] ShockValue: PaulWay: ntfs
[09:49:00] PaulWay: Hmmm, no, NTFS, eh?
[09:50:00] ShockValue: so i thought i would try cifs... but it wont let me mount
[09:50:00] mchou: ShockValue: ntfs to ntfs??
[09:50:00] PaulWay: You could always split it, copy the parts, and then join it on the Windows machine...
[09:51:00] ShockValue: ntfs to ntfs works fine. (copied a 4 gigger from my "C" drive to the "Z" drive and no issues) when i copy that same file to the mounted samba folder it craps out at 2g
[09:51:00] mchou: PaulWay: screw that, that's ghetto
[09:51:00] mchou: mounted sambe has what fs?
[09:51:00] mchou: samba*
[09:51:00] ShockValue: eh.. lets see
[09:51:00] PaulWay: mchou: if it works, it works :-)
[09:52:00] PaulWay: It doesn't solve the problem, but if it's urgent, it gets it done.
[09:52:00] ShockValue: "root" is reiserfs. /media is the smb share
[09:52:00] mchou: PaulWay: what if you wanna stream a video?
[09:52:00] PaulWay: ShockValue: what happens if you copy the 12GB file from samba to local?
[09:52:00] PaulWay: mchou: then you solve the problem :-)
[09:52:00] ShockValue: PaulWay: good question, havent tried that one
[09:52:00] ShockValue: although i did create a 4 gig file in /tmp to prove that it would work
[09:53:00] ShockValue: not copied though
[09:53:00] mchou: ShockValue: what distro?
[09:53:00] PaulWay: I seriously doubt it, but it's always possible (your version of) Samba has a 2GB limit in there somewhere.
[09:53:00] ShockValue: as i understand it, mounting a samba share from fstab is a function of the kernel, not smbmount.. but neither works, ive tried it both ways
[09:54:00] ShockValue: gentoo
[09:54:00] mchou: haha!!
[09:54:00] ShockValue: current samba version is 3.0.11
[09:54:00] mchou: get Cardoe aka "Einstein" in here
[09:54:00] PaulWay: ShockValue: You could also try doing something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/test bs=4096c count=5000000
[09:54:00] PaulWay: And see if creating a file (rather than copying it) causes a problem.
[09:55:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: Are you having trouble with 2GB support? Sorry, came in late.
[09:55:00] mchou: PaulWay: that's ghetto too. dd may not be LFS
[09:55:00] ShockValue: NightMonkey: yes
[09:55:00] PaulWay: mchou: your attitude is a bit in-my-face...
[09:55:00] mchou: PaulWay: so?
[09:55:00] ShockValue: cmon, dont argue, just help me out :D
[09:55:00] PaulWay: mchou: relax, max, no points to prove here... :-)
[09:56:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: I run Gentoo, too. You need to compile with the Large File Support CFLAGS. I thought that samba's ebuild did that, but let me look. One sec.
[09:56:00] ShockValue: NightMonkey: you have any insight?
[09:56:00] mchou: haha!!
[09:56:00] mchou: lol.
[09:56:00] ShockValue: NightMonkey: omg.. that would rule
[09:56:00] mchou: gentoo lusers
[09:56:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: One sec.
[09:56:00] PaulWay: Yeah, that would do it :-)
[09:57:00] mchou: LFS==Large File Support
[09:57:00] ShockValue: I'd go through a little extra work (like this) anyday in order to be able to modularly control my system.
[09:57:00] mchou: lol
[09:57:00] PaulWay: This makes me think of that guy that was in here a couple of days ago that was saying "All linux distros are essentially the same"...
[09:57:00] mchou: ShockValue: I'm sure you like your weekends wasted
[09:57:00] PaulWay: It was such obvious flamebait I couldn't be bothered setting fire to em.
[09:57:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: Did 2GB work for you previously, and not now? There was a new update to 3.0.20b recently.
[09:57:00] ShockValue: NightMonkey: dunno, never tried it.. Im just getting into ripping my DVD's :)
[09:58:00] ShockValue: mchou: tinking with shit is my hobbie.. its not wasted :)
[09:58:00] PaulWay: Should I just start mtd as a background process in /etc/rc.d/rc.local or is there a better way?
[09:58:00] PaulWay: ShockValue: The best thing about Linux is the unlimited opportunity to learn :-)
[09:58:00] ShockValue: PaulWay: i dont know the best way.. i just start it in my .xinitrc
[09:59:00] ShockValue: NightMonkey: im looking for a LFS use flag or something, but dont see it.... what am i missing?
[09:59:00] PaulWay: ShockValue: I'm sure mchou would say that was 'ghetto'
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[10:00:00] PaulWay: I'd just say it's unorthodox.
[10:00:00] ShockValue: i was hoping for a /etc/init.d/mtd personally.. but no such luck
[10:00:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: I've had a bug open for *two years+* to have Gentoo fix this with a USE flag...
[10:00:00] mchou: haha!!
[10:01:00] ShockValue: NightMonkey: so, how do i work around it in the mean time? so i need to hack the ebuild or something? :)
[10:01:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: However, another question. Are you mounting a partition with sambafs?
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[10:01:00] ShockValue: this: //Sanguine/media /media smbfs rw,username=administrator,password=<youwish>,uid=mythtv,gid=users,ttl=1000 0 0 0
[10:01:00] PaulWay: mchou: I can see a good reason why not to use gentoo... :-)
[10:02:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: I found something on the forums – try adding "lfs" to the mount options.
[10:02:00] ShockValue: I can see reasons not to use Gentoo too.. just not enough to make me switch to somethign else.
[10:03:00] ShockValue: rw,lfs,stuff... like such?
[10:03:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: Exactly
[10:03:00] SlicerDicer-: well damn it I knew it was going to happen lol
[10:04:00] PaulWay: Every distro has its good and bad points. It's all about what you're used to.
[10:04:00] PaulWay: I'm sure if I had to use gentoo I'd be stumbling over emerge and ebuild and ewhatever for ages before I got it right.
[10:04:00] ShockValue: im very much into "modular" or "granular"... gentoo fits that mentality
[10:05:00] SlicerDicer-: I hate it when X dies lol
[10:05:00] PaulWay: I learnt the hard way not to use the testing and development yum/up2date repositories on Fedora...
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[10:05:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-172775-h . . . mba+lfs.html
[10:05:00] ShockValue: NightMonkey: was just reading that.. thank you so much.
[10:05:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: I want to know if it works...
[10:06:00] ShockValue: im going to go try it and ill let you know (in like 45 minutes when it's done :)))
[10:06:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: Don't thank me unless it works ;).
[10:06:00] ShockValue: well at least i got /some/ help here tonight.. i've been fighting with this for like 3 days :)
[10:06:00] mwtb: I'm getting logs full of this: "ivtv0 warning: ENC Stream 0 OVERFLOW #12397: Stealing a Buffer, 512 currently allocated". The only thing I can see on the web suggests drive space as the cause, but all my drives have several gigs free.
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[10:07:00] PaulWay: BTW ShockValue: are you seeing anything in the kernel logs when it hits 2GB?
[10:07:00] ShockValue: NightMonkey: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-172776-h . . . mba+lfs.html
[10:08:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: Yep, that's the one. Mine was a "dupe", but the same coverage.
[10:08:00] ShockValue: \/\/()()+ and stuff
[10:09:00] NightMonkey: Yeah, most apps that I've seen don't really tell you what's going on (beacuse if they did, that would mean the devs would have known about it, and fixed it).
[10:10:00] NightMonkey: But, yes, LFS in Gentoo is supported in a very haphazard way at present.
[10:10:00] NightMonkey: It's ebuild by ebuild.
[10:11:00] ShockValue: i just added 480G to my array.. im excited to fill it up with my dvds :)
[10:11:00] NightMonkey: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14606 *sigh* – and it is misfiled.
[10:11:00] ShockValue: it's all been music thus far, so i never noticed any file size limitations
[10:11:00] PaulWay: ShockValue: That's a very naughty amount of storage...
[10:12:00] ShockValue: PaulWay: we outgrew the drives at work, so I got em cheap :)
[10:12:00] PaulWay: Geez, ShockValue, where do you work? Can I have some? :-)
[10:13:00] PaulWay: I knew a guy in Melbourne who had a great rort set up.
[10:13:00] PaulWay: He was working for a security video storage distributor, and they bought these hard-disk recorder units from Japan.
[10:14:00] ShockValue: we use hard drive backups at work. we upgraded to 160G drives for our daily's, so I scammed the 120G's
[10:14:00] PaulWay: They came with one 80GB drive (this was back in the day when 20GB hard disks wer standard in PCs).
[10:14:00] PaulWay: And they'd whip that out and replace it with four 160GB drives.
[10:14:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: Were there any errors when you mounted that share? Anything in the logs?
[10:14:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: (with the lfs option)
[10:15:00] PaulWay: Since the units were imported as a unit, no-one ever thought to ask where the old 80GB drives were going...
[10:15:00] ShockValue: havent tried it yet, my wife is watching a show :(
[10:15:00] ShockValue: PaulWay: nice :)
[10:15:00] PaulWay: ShockValue: I know that feeling...
[10:15:00] ShockValue: im trying it locally, brb
[10:15:00] PaulWay: And he was charging what a 60GB drive was worth for them.
[10:16:00] PaulWay: Which was nice, and all, except for the fact that he was getting them for ___FREE___
[10:16:00] ShockValue: good profit margin there
[10:16:00] PaulWay: That's what suxored.
[10:17:00] PaulWay: Geez, fiiiiinally!
[10:17:00] PaulWay: I can now actually get my Rio Karma to talk to my Fedora machine.
[10:17:00] PaulWay: It kept on saying Database already in use, which was patently untrue.
[10:18:00] ShockValue: PaulWay: whoa.. how? i have one of those too
[10:18:00] ShockValue: i have it hooked up to my wifes windows machine so i can fill it up
[10:19:00] PaulWay: ShockValue: I go way back with empeg. I've got a Mark I.
[10:19:00] PaulWay: ShockValue: put it on the network and get its address (in setup -> network -> current lease)
[10:19:00] ShockValue: oh via network.. i see.. i havent tried that
[10:19:00] PaulWay: Then browse it in e.g. firefox.
[10:20:00] ShockValue: can you transcode the files on the fly that way?
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[10:20:00] PaulWay: You get a JAR file which is the music manager 'lite' version.
[10:20:00] PaulWay: Then just do 'java -jar rmmlite.jar'.
[10:20:00] ShockValue: in windows im able to flac->ogg->karma all in one swoop of a mouse click
[10:21:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: Does that software work in WINE?
[10:21:00] ShockValue: dunno, never used wine
[10:21:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: I was just curious.
[10:22:00] ShockValue: she's done... AFK
[10:22:00] PaulWay: ShockValue: Not that I know of – it's not a filesystem that Linux will recognise.
[10:22:00] PaulWay: ShockValue: good luck!
[10:23:00] Cardoe: mchou: way to continue to be a debian tool
[10:24:00] NightMonkey: Cardoe: Ah, don't feed the troll. :)
[10:24:00] PaulWay: Cardoe: Ahhh, this explains _everything_...
[10:25:00] Cagochi: Hi
[10:25:00] PaulWay: ShockValue: But if you've already got OGGs then it's great to avoid Windows.
[10:25:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Howdy.
[10:25:00] PaulWay: Cagochi: Hi back!
[10:26:00] Cagochi: I was wondering if you two encode to really high mjpeg bitrates like 16000000 with your mpeg2 encoder cards.... mine is a hauppauge 500mce, and my video is too big bitrate wise to be put on a dvd.
[10:26:00] Cardoe: so turn it down?
[10:27:00] PaulWay: I either take whatever comes straight from my DVB cards, or I transcode it into something of a sensible size.
[10:27:00] PaulWay: But what's your problem exactly?
[10:27:00] Cagochi: Well, it was only shown on TV once... it's a TV series that was cancelled.
[10:27:00] Cagochi: I have the copy I made.
[10:27:00] Cagochi: most of the episodes are 720x480 at the insane encoding rate.
[10:27:00] BaZiL: anybody know a good place for a guide for setting up mythtv on a fedora box ? .. i just cant seem to understand how i should set up the videocard .. i dont know what /dev/ i should use
[10:28:00] PaulWay: It sounds like the best plan is to make a copy at the resolution and bitrate that DVD will take...
[10:28:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: That's too high.
[10:28:00] PaulWay: BaZiL: the very best: http://www.wilsonet.com/mythtv/
[10:28:00] PaulWay: Read and be enlightened!
[10:28:00] PaulWay: What's your actual problem?
[10:28:00] Cagochi: PaulWay: my exact problem is making a dvd filesystem. I extracted the segments with avidemux2, and now I'm using transcode on the commandline with this string " transcode -i 1.mpg --export_prof dvd-ntsc -o tlf01.mpg"
[10:29:00] Cagochi: PaulWay: am I on the right track?
[10:29:00] BaZiL: ive come so far .. that i have set up hte mythtv .. and are now suppose to run the mythtv-setup
[10:29:00] BaZiL: but i dont know what videounit to set .
[10:29:00] BaZiL: there is notting in the list to choose from .. i can however type the adress but i dont know witch
[10:29:00] PaulWay: My understanding is that you have to make an ISO image with the right file system contents, and then you burn it to DVD and it works.
[10:29:00] Cagochi: BraZiL: what's your encoder card? do you have video4linux in your kernel?
[10:30:00] BaZiL: i have a pwr 350
[10:30:00] PaulWay: I believe there's some tool to create the right file system and allow you to import MPEG2 to it, but I haven't tried it.
[10:30:00] PaulWay: BaZiL: I thought the pvr350 was supported natively in mythtv?
[10:30:00] BaZiL: and dont know if i have video4linux in my kernel . how do i check that
[10:30:00] PaulWay: Just change the card type in the card settings of mythtv-setup.
[10:30:00] BaZiL: yea .. i thought so to
[10:30:00] Cardoe: BaZiL: you need the ivtv driver
[10:30:00] Cagochi: PaulWay that's what some of the docs I read said too. I tried it with the 1.mpg you see in the command above... and the dvd filesystem creation failed because the bitrate was out of spec for DVDv1.0 specification.
[10:31:00] PaulWay: Aaaaahhhhh.
[10:31:00] Cardoe: Cagochi: transcode it to the proper bitrate
[10:31:00] Cardoe: Cagochi: try using nuvexport
[10:31:00] BaZiL: cardode .. i have made yum install ivtv ..
[10:31:00] BaZiL: so that is from what i can see installed
[10:31:00] PaulWay: Cagochi: I think you need transcode's '-w videobitrate' option.
[10:31:00] Cardoe: BaZiL: modprobe ivtv
[10:31:00] PaulWay: man transcode and look for bitrate options.
[10:31:00] Cagochi: nuvexport currently fails for me :( I'm on Gentoo I don't know if nuv export is failing because of newer versions of ffmpeg or what...
[10:31:00] BaZiL: heheh .. ivtv not found
[10:32:00] PaulWay: Cagochi: I want to make a VCD for a friend, and I'm going to have to learn how to do these things too :-)
[10:32:00] BaZiL: fuck .. i have done yum install ivtv
[10:32:00] BaZiL: anyone wanna go in have a look what i have done wrong ?
[10:32:00] Cardoe: Cagochi: file a bug?
[10:32:00] Cagochi: I'm hoping --export_prof dvd-ntsc will make it proper. I am now transcoding a 9 minute video segment... we'll see if it burns.
[10:33:00] Cagochi: Cardoe: no... I didn't file a bug because I really should --emptytree world before I know what the bug probably is.
[10:33:00] Cagochi: BaZiL: i think ivtv depends on video for linux... but I could be wrong.
[10:34:00] Cardoe: Cagochi: well what's failing?
[10:34:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Your problem seems to stem from the high bitrates, and PaulWay gave you some tips...
[10:35:00] Cagochi: If I remember correctly, nuvexport goes through the selection menu and shows the progress bar that it's ready to work. Then top shows that mythtranscode is using 100% cpu.... but the progress bar indicator at the nuvexport command line fails to show progress.
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[10:36:00] PaulWay: What I'm annoyed about is that the program I want to convert to VCD was on MythTV and I used nuvexport to transcode it to XVid. Now I need to convert it back to MPEG for VCD...
[10:36:00] ** PaulWay slaps forehead **
[10:37:00] PaulWay: Cagochi: in that nuvexport problem (above), does the output file grow?
[10:38:00] ShockValue: dag nab it.. i think i may have hozed up my security settings on my windows machine trying to get this to work
[10:39:00] ShockValue: i can connect just fine (with lfs, or not) but it gives me permission denied when i try to do anything with is (uncluding "ls")
[10:39:00] PaulWay: NightMonkey: reading up on transcode's --export_prof option, it does imply that it will limit the bitrate, but I don't think it actually does.
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[10:39:00] Cagochi: PaulWay: with the nuvexport problem, I just checked. The file doesn't exist even though I gave nuvexport a place to put it.... does nuvexport use a temp directory before it uses the directy I specify?
[10:39:00] PaulWay: No, it writes to the output file directly.
[10:40:00] PaulWay: It sounds like your receiving process (probably ffmpeg) isn't starting up.
[10:40:00] PaulWay: Have you tried running nuvexport --debug?
[10:40:00] Cardoe: new version of nuvexport in Portage
[10:40:00] SlicerDicer-: well Cardoe I finally tried some new things on the mythfrontend crash and now I am totally stumped :)
[10:40:00] Cardoe: SlicerDicer: what'd ya try?
[10:40:00] SlicerDicer-: totally new kernel
[10:41:00] Cardoe: 34 minutes until the new version should hit rsync servers
[10:41:00] Cardoe: guess it didn't help
[10:41:00] SlicerDicer-: it still crashes every time :/
[10:41:00] Cardoe: a recording ends right?
[10:41:00] SlicerDicer-: no
[10:42:00] SlicerDicer-: I play a video all the way through or exit it... then I try to launch another one it dies
[10:42:00] SlicerDicer-: everytime without fail
[10:43:00] Cardoe: did you compile mythfrontend with debug and profile?
[10:43:00] Cardoe: and run it through gdb?
[10:43:00] SlicerDicer-: no
[10:43:00] Cardoe: do that.
[10:43:00] Cardoe: let's get a BT
[10:43:00] Cardoe: once it crashes
[10:43:00] Cardoe: type bt
[10:43:00] Cardoe: and copy and paste that somewhere.
[10:43:00] Cardoe: a bug report or whatev
[10:44:00] SlicerDicer-: :/ it takes forever to compile heh
[10:44:00] Cagochi: Cardoe: is that new nuvexport that's hitting rsync servers soon gonna use the recent ffmpeg from september as a dependency?
[10:44:00] SlicerDicer-: Cagochi, xris is mr nuveport
[10:45:00] Cardoe: It'll use the latest ffmpeg you've available in the tree.
[10:45:00] Cardoe: I'll go through the depends in the morning
[10:45:00] Cardoe: and our changes to ffmpeg
[10:45:00] Cardoe: and see exactly what rev is needed.
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[10:47:00] SlicerDicer-: Cardoe, I pretty much broke my mythbox though this is why I hate updating lol
[10:47:00] ** ShockValue cries **
[10:47:00] SlicerDicer-: lirc decided to explode
[10:47:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[10:48:00] Cardoe: you broke it trying to figure it out?
[10:48:00] Cagochi: Cardoe: I know avifile depends on ffmpeg-0226-r5
[10:48:00] Cardoe: avifile is going away
[10:49:00] Cagochi: cool
[10:49:00] ShockValue: yeah, i broke it.. i can co longer connect to my share at all
[10:49:00] PaulWay: afk, eating.
[10:49:00] Cagochi: have yall seen the python scripts the kids run on their xbox media centers?
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[10:49:00] Cagochi: for pullin in ifilm and stuff like hat?
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[10:49:00] SlicerDicer-: Cardoe, nah it just exploded when the kernel updated
[10:50:00] SlicerDicer-: Cardoe, I am just having to figure out the new modules :)
[10:51:00] Cardoe: ah
[10:51:00] Cardoe: Cagochi: I'd be interested
[10:53:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Just FYI: My "Low Quality" recording profile is bitrate 2200 w/Max of 4400, my "Deafult" is 4400 w/Max of 8800, and my "High Quality" is 8000 w/Max of 16000.
[10:53:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: And, IIRC, even my Low Quality is higher bitrate than Tivo's highest (but my memory is fuzzy about that, don't quote me)
[10:53:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: And everything at 720x480.
[10:54:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: And my Stream Type is "DVD-Special 2".
[10:54:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: thanks for the info.
[10:54:00] NightMonkey: PaulWay: Sorry to hear that. :(
[10:54:00] NightMonkey: PaulWay: Are you going to try to blast open the permissions, or call it a day?
[10:54:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: which IVTV drivers do you use?
[10:54:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: Are you going to try to blast open the permissions, or call it a day?
[10:54:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: Ah, you've run into Bill's Gates.
[10:54:00] ** NightMonkey collapses **
[10:55:00] ShockValue: NightMonkey: im not sure where to even start
[10:55:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: What is the OS on the Winders box?
[10:55:00] ShockValue: NightMonkey: i flipped a few switches to try to get it to work.. I /think/ i put them all back, but i still get this:
[10:55:00] ShockValue: hockvalue@Precept /media $ ls
[10:55:00] ShockValue: ls: .: Permission denied
[10:55:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: media-tv/ivtv-0.2.0_rc3-r5
[10:56:00] ShockValue: yet, i can mount it with no isses... and there are no errors in the windows event logs
[10:56:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: Hmm... Sounds like a "share permissions" vs. "filesystems permissions" problem, perhaps.
[10:56:00] ShockValue: pretty sure those are wide open, but ill check
[10:56:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: I see... back when I got my card I started using the source drivers.... the hauppauge 150s on my card weren't working with the portage ebuild at the time.
[10:57:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: NTFS permissions are like a stack of cards, with the filesystem as the final arbiter for access.
[10:57:00] ShockValue: yeah, i grasp that part pretty well
[10:57:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Ah, I dunno. I run a pvr-350.
[10:58:00] ShockValue: resetting all permissions to Everyone [Everything] now.. just to be sure
[10:58:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: Sorry, didn't mean to presume...
[10:58:00] ShockValue: NightMonkey: nah its cool..
[10:58:00] ShockValue: NightMonkey: fresh sets of eyes always help
[10:58:00] Cagochi: But... in this video project I'm doing.... FWIW, my workflow captures in mythtv at the maximum bitrate. Then I extract the video and audio streams I want to keep using avidemux2. then I mplex that stream together. The part of the workflow I just learned tonight seems to be to take what I got from mplex the first time, and run it through transcode with the options I mentioned earlier.
[10:58:00] NightMonkey: whoah
[10:59:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Hmm, doesn't avidmux2 offer re-encoding options? Or am I remembering incorrectly?
[10:59:00] Cagochi: Since this is working, I mplex the video and audio streams that came from transcode back together with mplex.... if I'm lucky, this will burn a dvd tonight as soon as I finish transcoding the last 3 segments of my video.
[11:00:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: I didn't look at avidemux2 that closely.... I only needed it to cut segments between keyframes. Maybe it will do all that.
[11:00:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Why do you need to capture at such a high bitrate? DVDs don't support that high a constant bitrate, IIRC.
[11:02:00] BaZiL: anybody wanna help me out installing ivtv .. it doesnt seem to work with the guide im using .. fedora core
[11:02:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: I made a DVD burning HOWTO, perhaps this will help: https://www.ilikelinux.com/howto/pvr3502dvd
[11:02:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: DVD is just one stop for converging the captured video... The captured video from the tuner I want to use to make appropriately sized copies... 1 for a vlc stream over residential broadband internet.... 2 for a small clip to be placed in a flash movie... 3 for the progressive frames at a highbitrate that look great on a monitor.
[11:02:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: Thanks man!
[11:03:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Well, you are, of course, free to set them as you wish, but my High Quality profile does a great job. I guess if you *absolutely* *never* can see any mpeg artifacts (other than the mpeg artifacts your tv provider has ;) ), then that's the only way.
[11:04:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Also, for task 1, check out http://mythstreamtv.sf.net/ . I love it.
[11:05:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: why haven't I seen a portage ebuild for that?
[11:06:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: And, for 3, As long as I play with deinterlacing, the high profile looks great, too. However, older, '70s/'60s TV shows (with lots of film "grainyness") need the high profile to not get all blocky.
[11:06:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Well, it actually mangels the mythweb source code, and Portage can't really easily overwrite another packages files, if I'm not mistaken.
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[11:07:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: magles, well, I mean, "edits".
[11:07:00] Cagochi: hehe
[11:07:00] NightMonkey: and I mean "mangles". My fingers ain't working.
[11:08:00] Cagochi: I'm trying to checkout the cvs of mythstreamtv right now at sourceforge... but sourceforge is rejecting "mythstreamtv" as the appropriate module name. :(
[11:08:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Or shows with lots of gradients. Over There, with lots of desert dust, gets blocky at low rates in dusty scenes.
[11:08:00] NightMonkey: doh!
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[11:09:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Maybe you need to go HTTP? http://sourceforge.net/projects/mythstreamtv/
[11:09:00] Cagochi: I was using also the highbitrates to try and figure out why I couldn't get a decent capture of weather maps, and of the scrolling text at the bottom of cnn.....
[11:09:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Hmm... what would happen to the maps?
[11:10:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: that release is from January. Is there CVS access for mythstreameTV at sourceforge?
[11:10:00] BaZiL: fuck .. i have installed ivtv .. but i stil get ivtv not found when i run modprobe ivtv
[11:10:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: That's the latest. Still works.
[11:10:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: The maps had white letters on a colored background. There was a flashyness to the vertical lines of the letters that named the cities on the map.
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[11:11:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: But, on normal TV, no flashyness? (i.e. straight from your provider?)
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[11:11:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Upstream TV providers often compress their signals, too.
[11:12:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: I noticed... that's why I'm disappointed with DirectTV.... at least comcast looks nice.... (but hell... it's VHS quality analog TV I'm trying to capture with "historical archive" quality)
[11:13:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Dish (my provider) is going with Mpeg-4 soon. But their compression isn't as bad as my local Comcast digital, IMO.
[11:13:00] SlicerDicer-: hey is anybody familar with irw saying "connect : connection refused"?
[11:14:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: I haven't tried comcast digital.
[11:14:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Anyway, if you get rid of those artifacts at the max bitrate, then you've solved the problem ;).
[11:14:00] Cagochi: It's just a tease for me without the digital stream capture card.
[11:15:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: well, the bitrate doesn't sove the problem... I think it may be a source issue. Color also looks bad on silk ties.
[11:16:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: I don't think you should blame the card quite yet. What is your input connection (from DirectTV -> your card)?
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[11:16:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: S-video, composite, RGB...?
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[11:16:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: S-video is best, if the Direct-TV box supports it.
[11:17:00] BaZiL: waht is the newest ivtv version ?
[11:18:00] NightMonkey: BaZiL: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Main_Page
[11:18:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: I'm using the tuner on the hauppauge 500mce.
[11:19:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Oh, I see. Then composite?
[11:19:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: the coaxial tuner for the cable tv channels.
[11:19:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Gotcha.
[11:21:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: I'd check for any interference near the cable (power blocks, power strips, etc.), and see if re-seating the cable and screwing it down fairly tight doesn't improve things. I know, silly, but I've been bested by simple things... ;)
[11:21:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Sometimes a just-off cable seating can cause subtle picture composition changes.
[11:22:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: And, low quality cables...
[11:22:00] BaZiL: they say unload any old ivtv driver .. how do i do this when i havent been able to install or startup drivers before ?
[11:22:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Actually, now that I think about it, I seem to recall some "videophile" magazines talking about similar issues as you're having with lower quality cables.
[11:23:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: I'm happy to be using RG-6 from Comcast... and the line is less than 12 feet from the incoming network box here at my building. Unfortunately there is probably 1200watts of power going on down there near these same cables.
[11:23:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Well, I guess the true test would be to just watch TV and see if that's the problem.
[11:24:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Back up your mythweb source before running the mythstreamtv install, btw.
[11:24:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: The installer is not undo-able, if you need to change a setting.
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[11:25:00] Cagochi: I wonder why mythburn isn't in portage yet either.
[11:26:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Not enough devs for non-official mythtv projects, I presume.
[11:26:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: It never really worked well for me, but that was over a year ago when I tried last.
[11:26:00] Cagochi: I don't know howto make ebuilds or else I'd do it. :)
[11:27:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: It's not that hard – the docs are decent, and you have a whole repository to learn from ;).
[11:27:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Right there on your box...
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[11:27:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Eclasses are the key.
[11:28:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: At least for me. Their the hidden gems, with time-saving functions.
[11:28:00] NightMonkey: their=they're
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[11:29:00] Cagochi: Installing MythStreamTV.........
[11:29:00] Cagochi: .... Checking MythWeb Compatablity: cat: /var/www/themes/Default/theme.php: No such file or directory
[11:29:00] Cagochi: Oops! No support for this version of MythWeb
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[11:30:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Hmm...
[11:30:00] Cagochi: I don't have a themes directory in my /var/www
[11:30:00] Cagochi: and I just make a path but it didn't matter....
[11:31:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: Any ideas?
[11:31:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Hmm... haven't done an install of that in a while.
[11:32:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Did you follow this: http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php . . . up_id=127846
[11:32:00] ShockValue: NightMonkey: just found the right switch.. i can now access my drives again.. gonna go test for LFS samba support
[11:32:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: You need to enter the directory for the document root of mythweb.
[11:33:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: Cool. Crossing fingers for ya.
[11:33:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: MythstreamTV can be a beast if your VLC and ffmpeg aren't set up just right.
[11:34:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: It's not really polished. I wish it was actually part of mythweb...
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[11:35:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: What's your ethernet nets speed?
[11:36:00] Cagochi: Okay... I just went into my mythweb directory. There is no themes directory and so ./themes/Default/theme.php isn't there..... where does theme.php come from in mythweb?
[11:37:00] BaZiL: were do i find a list of frequesnses for swedish channels ?
[11:37:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Well, it is there for me: /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb/themes/Default
[11:37:00] Cagochi: BaZiL: check in utils directory of the ivtv source.
[11:37:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: are you using apache without vhosts support?
[11:38:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: No, I use vhosts.
[11:39:00] BaZiL: cagochi .. my problem is that i cant seem to search for channels in mythtv-setup .. and i dont know why .. so i was planning for setting it up manually
[11:39:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: I just don't have vhosts on this box... But the flag is set.
[11:39:00] Cagochi: so then mythweb has a themes directory for you in localhost? okay... I was checking my specified vhost directory which matches my machines host.network.org
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[11:39:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: My virtual host is "localhost". So, I still use webapp-config.
[11:40:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Your should be in /var/www/<virtual host>/htdocs/mythweb/themes/Default
[11:40:00] Cagochi: well i just ran webapp-config -I -h <host> -d mythweb mythweb 0.18.1 on localhost.
[11:40:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: That ought to do it.
[11:41:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: The "localhost" in my directory is not significant. I could have named it "blue-elephant". I just put everything there, and have my Internet-facing apache do the real v-host magic.
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[11:42:00] Cagochi: I didn't miss anything important here did I? I don't think there was anything there for me to change. /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb/config/conf.php
[11:43:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: Just need to tell the mythstreamtv installer about that path.
[11:43:00] NightMonkey: Cagochi: And all the other paths, like where it should store it's files, etc.
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[11:44:00] NightMonkey: OK, I gotta sleep. Cagochi, also check out the SF forums for mythstreamtv – they have some helpful folks there.
[11:45:00] NightMonkey: ShockValue: Good luck! :)
[11:45:00] NightMonkey: Nite, all.
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[11:46:00] Cagochi: NightMonkey: thanks for your help.
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[11:51:00] cassepieds: Cardoe: are you there?
[11:55:00] cassepieds: anybody else with experience of AMD64/PVR350/Gentoo?
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[12:57:00] Ribs: Is there any way of forcing MythTv to use xine to watch tv and recordings?
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[13:03:00] mafkees: heya all
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[13:12:00] mafkees: how can I scan for channels using a hauppauge PVR-500 ?
[13:13:00] mafkees: it's all setup
[13:13:00] mafkees: but when I go to "watch tv" in mythfrontend all the channels are snowy
[13:16:00] Ribs: mafkees: I found that grabbing ptune and running that helped
[13:17:00] Dagmar: mafkees: This is NTSC, right?
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[13:18:00] mafkees: no, It's PAL here
[13:18:00] Dagmar: Broadcast or cable
[13:18:00] mafkees: hhmm, I need some kind of .pm module before I can use ptune
[13:19:00] Dagmar: mafkees: Which one is it askin' for
[13:19:00] mafkees: mythtv@myth:/usr/local/src/ivtv-0.4.0/utils/perl$ ./ptune-ui.pl
[13:19:00] mafkees: Can't locate Video/Frequencies.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./ptune-ui.pl line 9.
[13:19:00] mafkees: BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./ptune-ui.pl line 9.
[13:20:00] mafkees: I get the same error when trying ptune.pl
[13:20:00] Ribs: Do you not have a package for ptune?
[13:20:00] mafkees: There's a dish at the main entrence of my living area
[13:20:00] mafkees: all houses get a connection using BNC cable
[13:21:00] Ribs: erm
[13:21:00] Dagmar: mafkees: okay, well, the image just may be lossy
[13:21:00] Dagmar: Anyway, about hte perl thing, it's easy. As root, run `cpan`.
[13:21:00] mafkees: when I plug that cable in my tv and start a scan, it programs everything etc
[13:21:00] Dagmar: The type `install Video::Capture`. I think that should get it started
[13:21:00] jca: Hi i have myth installed compiled from source and want to use rpms instead, how do i do this do i need to uninstall mythtv first?
[13:22:00] Dagmar: Erk. My mistake. Video::Capture::V4l
[13:22:00] Ribs: jca: Where you typed in 'make install', run 'make uninstall' instead
[13:22:00] mafkees: Warning: Cannot install Video::Capture, don't know what it is.
[13:22:00] Ribs: this *should* work, as I think it's a standard thing, not ever tried it on mythtv tho
[13:22:00] Dagmar: makfees: See above... just add that bit to the end (just did it here so I know it works)
[13:23:00] mafkees: Thnx
[13:23:00] mafkees: compiling
[13:23:00] mafkees: /usr/bin/make install  — OK
[13:24:00] jca: Ribs > can i do this if allready installed the rpms
[13:24:00] mafkees: dammit
[13:24:00] mafkees: cannot get this to work
[13:25:00] Ribs: jca: Pass. Just try it, if it removes files you need, just install the rpm again
[13:25:00] Dagmar: I don't know where the heck you're supposed to get Video::ivtv tho
[13:25:00] mafkees: lol
[13:25:00] jca: Ribs : Thanks Mate
[13:25:00] mafkees: yeah it barfs at that one
[13:26:00] Dagmar: mafkees: I'm still looking tho. If it exists I will have it soon
[13:26:00] Dagmar: w00t: http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/supporting-tools/
[13:27:00] mafkees: thank you
[13:27:00] Dagmar: mafkess: Just keep one thing in mind... the PVR-500 doesn't get along with 2.4.x kernels
[13:28:00] Dagmar: I had to upgrade to 2.6.13.4 last night because it just woudln't bloody work the tuner with ivtv 0.4.0
[13:28:00] Dagmar: All I was seeing was multicolored static
[13:28:00] Ribs: does anyone have problems with kernel 2.6.13 and lirc?
[13:28:00] Ribs: I can't get the modules to load with .13
[13:28:00] Dagmar: Ribs: did you rebuild them from scratch?
[13:28:00] Ribs: no, I mearly re-merged them
[13:29:00] Ribs: which I supposed you could class as a rebuild
[13:29:00] Ribs: it does error out with that kernel tho, saying symbols are missing
[13:29:00] Ribs: yet .12 works great with it (?)
[13:30:00] Dagmar: You need to do a make clean on your lirc source and rebuild
[13:31:00] mafkees: Dagmar: this is a clean install of Debian SID with 2.6.8–2
[13:31:00] Ribs: Dagmar: As far as I'm aware, gentoo's ebuild does this
[13:31:00] Ribs: It's probably a gentoo bug
[13:31:00] Ribs: I'll stick with .12 for now :>
[13:31:00] mafkees: cat ptune scan for channels ?
[13:32:00] Ribs: mafkees: Sort of, yes
[13:32:00] Ribs: you can tell it what frequency to look for
[13:32:00] Ribs: and have mplayer /dev/video0 running as well (or whatever)
[13:32:00] Ribs: then you just keep clicking the up button until you get a picture :)
[13:32:00] mafkees: yeah, the problem is I don't know the frequencies for the channels
[13:33:00] Ribs: well, start at the lowest frequency, then keep pressing up
[13:33:00] mafkees: that's why I want some kind of scanning going on
[13:33:00] Ribs: this is how I did it
[13:33:00] mafkees: with mplayer ?
[13:33:00] Dagmar: Ribs: If it's refusing to load hte modules, then it's probably *not* or you're somehow loading a stale copy of the kernel modules.
[13:33:00] Ribs: yeah, you have mplayer streaming what your TV card is showing, then use ptune to actually find the frequency
[13:33:00] Dagmar: Linux mythtv 2.6.13.4 <-- just built it and loaded lirc_serial
[13:34:00] Ribs: Dagmar: dmsg showed up a lot of error about missing symbols. As far as I know, the 'gentoo' way of upgrading modules for new kernels is just to re-merge them
[13:34:00] Dagmar: Yeah, well, I don't use Gentoo.
[13:34:00] Ribs: I know it finds the correct kernel source, as the ebuild shows which one it's running from...
[13:34:00] Dagmar: ..and I'm trying very hard not to say "it's something screwey they're doing"
[13:34:00] Ribs: So yeah, it's probabily yet another Gentoo bug...
[13:35:00] Ribs: heh heh, Gentoo is screwey sometimes :>
[13:35:00] Dagmar: On the bright side there's a really sweet setup.sh dialog-driven script in the lirc source package.
[13:35:00] Dagmar: Just run it, poke at the options a bit, and let 'er rip
[13:36:00] Ribs: I always prefer to use packages when I can
[13:36:00] Ribs: 2.6.13 doesn't seem to have anything vital I want anyway, so I'll stick with .12
[13:36:00] Ribs: thanks anyway
[13:40:00] Dagmar: I am *hoping* to get the radio tuner working today
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[13:47:00] Dagmar: Surely there's a Myth plugin for the radio tuners... Hmm...
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[13:58:00] mafkees: hhmm
[13:59:00] mafkees: this is not going to work
[14:00:00] mafkees: scantv looks on input = Television
[14:00:00] mafkees: I only have Tuner 0
[14:02:00] mafkees: gheh, when I edit scantv binary and replace Television with Tuner 0 it segfaults
[14:02:00] mafkees: whehe
[14:02:00] Dagmar: That's not where you change that
[14:03:00] Dagmar: You need to run mythtv-setup
[14:03:00] Dagmar: Set up your source named 'Television' and then assign it as an input to the card
[14:03:00] Dagmar: ...at least, I think that should be the proper way to go
[14:07:00] mafkees: hhmm, maybe I need to do this totally different
[14:07:00] mafkees: the freqid in the channel table
[14:07:00] mafkees: that's Mhz*16 right ?
[14:09:00] Dagmar: Could be
[14:09:00] mafkees: what if I plug the cable in my tv, start scanning, and multiply all found freqs by 16, and store them in the db
[14:09:00] Dagmar: I've never bothered to look at the table
[14:09:00] mafkees: that should do the trick I gues
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[14:18:00] Ribs: ohh, this has been bugging me for a while. I can't seem to get audio coming from the s-video output on this mini-itx motherboard I have. It comes out just fine from the normal speak output, but I want it to so to the s-video output so the sound comes through the TV. Is this possible?
[14:18:00] Dagmar: No.
[14:18:00] Dagmar: S-Video isn't sound, dud.e
[14:19:00] Ribs: That would make a lot of sense
[14:19:00] Dagmar: :)
[14:19:00] Ribs: hence the s-VIDEO name
[14:20:00] Dagmar: Just get some little black zip ties from radio shack or something and bind your svideo cable to the proper audio cable of the same length
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[14:20:00] Skaface: which would probably be a stereo headphone type plug on one end, and two rca jacks on the other end
[14:21:00] Ribs: I don't think there is a way to get sound into the TV tho
[14:21:00] Skaface: the red and white rca jacks
[14:21:00] Ribs: It doesn't make a huge difference, I have spare speakers anyway
[14:21:00] Ribs: Skaface: I'm using a s-video to SCART cable atm
[14:21:00] Skaface: ohh
[14:21:00] Ribs: I thought it would the best soultion
[14:22:00] Ribs: because I am an idiot
[14:22:00] Skaface: i think youll need a scart plug, that has audio and video going into it
[14:22:00] Skaface: not just video
[14:22:00] Ribs: I also thought Gentoo would be the best OS for this box... Go figure...
[14:22:00] Skaface: haha
[14:22:00] Ribs: Skaface: Yeah, scart does have audio, but there is no way for me to get audio lines into the scaret plus itself.
[14:23:00] Ribs: If I had a s-video cable to one of those three plug jobbies, then I guess it's possible
[14:24:00] Skaface: http://www.jaycar.com.au/ShowLargephoto.asp?id=2339&IMAGE=
[14:24:00] Skaface: you need something like that
[14:24:00] Skaface: then you have audio in as well as s-video
[14:24:00] Ribs: ohhh, yeah
[14:24:00] Ribs: that would do
[14:24:00] Skaface: im assuming your scart plug only has 1 cable coming off it with svideo
[14:25:00] Ribs: yeah
[14:26:00] Skaface: scart is such a stupid standard
[14:26:00] Ribs: anyone got a CN400 based chipset here?
[14:26:00] Ribs: Skaface: I assumed it would give best quality over anything else the TV takes
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[14:27:00] Ribs: It's annoying when the TV runs in black and white sometimes tho
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[14:57:00] AndyCap: Ribs: if it's black/white it's likely that it doesn't understand that the signal is s-video
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[14:57:00] AndyCap: Skaface: scart itself is fairly ok. :)
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[14:58:00] Daboone72: Hiya anyone here from the uk? My mythfilldatabase seems to just stop even with --manual
[15:06:00] Daboone72: Hello can I ask since it is NOT in the manual what is the typical run time for mythfilldatabase on a DSL line grabbing listings from the uk?
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[15:41:00] Ribs: AndyCap: Turning the TV off and on usually fixes it
[15:41:00] Ribs: dunno why
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[16:00:00] AndyCap: Ribs: you had svideo connectors from the pc and into the tv? if so it's a little odd
[16:00:00] AndyCap: maybe your tv is not well. :-P
[16:00:00] dft: Ribs: I ran into that problem too, if you're using nvidia card, make sure you have "options "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"" in your XF86Config-4
[16:00:00] AndyCap: dft: it should be that way all the time then I guess.
[16:00:00] AndyCap: not on and off..
[16:01:00] dft: yes
[16:01:00] dft: sry, just checking in, is it intermittent for Ribs?
[16:02:00] AndyCap: I think so.. Ribs?
[16:03:00] ** dft just discovered his remote isn't supported yet **
[16:04:00] dft: poonaka
[16:05:00] dft: I've got the peanut/silver hauppauge remote..*shrug*
[16:27:00] dft: is there a tool for making playlists of mp3s within mythtv?
[16:27:00] dft: or do I have to create my own using xmms, then drop them into the music directory?
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[16:55:00] AndyCap: dft: there is a tool for making playlists, but not sure if you could save them as m3u.. haven't used it enough..
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[17:53:00] CanadaBoy: can anyone give me a hand ... im having trouble with my lirc (pvr350 remote) ... i have it in /etc/modprobe./conf but for it to actually work after rebooting i have to /sbin/modprobe lirc_i2c | /sbin/chkconfig lircd on | /sbin/service lircd start
[17:57:00] utah_prole: CanadaBoy, can you put all that into a shell script and add it as a startup service?
[17:58:00] CanadaBoy: good idea ...
[17:58:00] CanadaBoy: but shouldn't /sbin/service lircd start preform on every boot ?
[17:59:00] CanadaBoy: isn't that the point ... as i did /sbin/service mythbackend start and it started everytime
[18:00:00] utah_prole: is it in your /etc/rc.5 or whatever your startup path is? If so, it might be that it's failing because the module isn't loaded
[18:00:00] CanadaBoy: one second
[18:03:00] CanadaBoy: well
[18:03:00] CanadaBoy: where would the logs of /sbin/service lircd start and why would it not being done on reboot
[18:04:00] utah_prole: what distro?
[18:04:00] CanadaBoy: fc4
[18:05:00] CanadaBoy: ./sbin/service mythbackend start worked fine there has to be a reason why /sbin/service lircd works fine when executed but not when rebooted
[18:05:00] utah_prole: it's been a while since I've used FC, and I'm not familiar with /sbin/service.... I'd use chkconfig
[18:05:00] CanadaBoy: ok sec.
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[18:07:00] CanadaBoy: ok thanks anways ...
[18:07:00] CanadaBoy: something is up
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[18:08:00] CanadaBoy: i've done /sbin/chkconfig lircd on
[18:08:00] CanadaBoy: hmm
[18:09:00] utah_prole: chkconfig --level 345 lircd on, I think
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[18:13:00] CanadaBoy: this /sbin/modprobe lirc_i2c doesn't appear to be getting loaded
[18:13:00] CanadaBoy: so it much be a problem with my /etc/modprobe.conf?
[18:13:00] utah_prole: probably
[18:16:00] CanadaBoy: how can i reload my modprobe.conf without rebooting?
[18:17:00] utah_prole: hmm, not sure... sorry
[18:17:00] CanadaBoy: ok thanks
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[18:23:00] sphing: where can i get css help?
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[18:30:00] AppleBoy: anybody here use the HD3000? I can't get a signal on it, but I know the feed is live
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[18:35:00] utah_prole: AppleBoy: I use the HD3000, but I just barely got it working
[18:35:00] utah_prole: what kernel are you using?
[18:35:00] AppleBoy: 2.6.13
[18:36:00] AppleBoy: Linux dioxide 2.6.13-gentoo-r1-r1 #4 SMP Fri Sep 30 17:38:13 PDT 2005 x86_64 AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 242 AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
[18:36:00] TheAsp: does myth build with gcc .0?
[18:36:00] TheAsp: err 4.0
[18:36:00] utah_prole: that should be fine... I believe the kernel > 2.6.12 has the drivers built in
[18:36:00] utah_prole: have you tried the drivers from pchdtv?
[18:37:00] AppleBoy: well, it recognizes the card
[18:37:00] AppleBoy: I can pull info from it
[18:37:00] AppleBoy: but it just doesn't seem to get the signal :/
[18:37:00] utah_prole: do you get blank screen, or static
[18:37:00] AppleBoy: is there a way to tune it into a different frequency or something?
[18:37:00] AppleBoy: blank
[18:37:00] AppleBoy: singal strength: 0
[18:38:00] utah_prole: have you tried xawtv? that's what I used before even messing with it in mythtv
[18:39:00] utah_prole: within mythtv I don't know how to tune it...
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[19:36:00] dcstimm: hey guys, I just bought the new ipod with video support, and it plays our 480x480 mpeg2 perfectly
[19:36:00] dcstimm: from my 250 card
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[19:46:00] sphing: lol
[19:46:00] sphing: dcstimm: all you need now is an auto update script... every morning at 6ish it puts all the new files on your ipod
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[19:57:00] dcstimm: sphing, should be easy to do
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[20:01:00] gratz|home: hey i set up lirc and have irw working fine for my hauppauge remote, reports back the correct button presses, compiled mythtv to include lirc support, created a the /home/$user/.mythtv/lircrc file according to http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV though when i run mythfrontend the remote doesn't do anything, anyone experienced this?
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[20:09:00] FunkyELF: any gentoo users in here?
[20:10:00] gratz|home: ye
[20:10:00] FunkyELF: gratz|home, do you have MythMusic installed?
[20:11:00] FunkyELF: it is masked...I was wondering if there is anything wrong with that package
[20:11:00] gratz|home: don't have it sorry
[20:11:00] FunkyELF: alright
[20:11:00] gratz|home: i'm still trying to get my remote working
[20:11:00] FunkyELF: good luck. I haven't got my reciever in the mail yet...but I'm wondering if I am even going to bother because I have a wireless keyboard
[20:13:00] gratz|home: ah :P
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[20:15:00] qfx: Anyone know if you can use a remote from a ATI 8500DV without the ATI card in there?
[20:16:00] FunkyELF: what does the reciever plug into?
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[20:19:00] FunkyELF: what is this transcoder auto-run checkbox in the set up? Does that automatically transcode the programs after they've been recorded or does it automatically start the transcoding daemon?
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[20:22:00] kahuna_: Hi
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[20:26:00] _Nero_: Ugh.. the 2.6 kernels HATE my motherboard..
[20:32:00] kahuna_: What chipset?
[20:32:00] _Nero_: I am trying to remember.. it is an albatron Pentium 4 board..
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[20:32:00] _Nero_: it keeps disabling IRQ 7, after about 10–12 hours of use, then the whole system goes unstable..
[20:32:00] kahuna_: That's an odd name – albatron.
[20:33:00] kahuna_: I've finally ot my pundit-r to mostly work.
[20:33:00] kahuna_: no xvmc though
[20:33:00] _Nero_: funny thing is, it was stable as a rock under a 2.4 kernel.. Upgraded to FC4, and have had nothing but problems since..
[20:34:00] kahuna_: weird. Try not loading any modules then load them one by one to find out what's giving you trouble
[20:35:00] _Nero_: Thats the thing- I have disabled everything on the board, usb, ethernet, etc.. and it is still throwing the error..
[20:35:00] kahuna_: I have a strange question: If I have a hauppage PVR card with mpeg2 decoder and a DVB card that has no decoder does myth use ivtv to decode mpeg2 for the non-accelerated card?
[20:36:00] kahuna_: It would be a huge plus if it could
[20:36:00] kahuna_: _Nero_: what's the error?
[20:36:00] Ribs: kahuna_: No, it can't
[20:36:00] Ribs: the mpeg2 decoding is handled in the card itself, I think
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[20:37:00] Ribs: unless you re-wrote the firmware or something, I can't see it being possible
[20:37:00] djperegrine: yea thats the point
[20:37:00] _Nero_: kahuna_: mythtv kernel: irq 7: nobody cared! Then it disables IRQ 7..
[20:37:00] kahuna_: _Nero_: did you try turning off apic?
[20:37:00] kahuna_: or acpi
[20:38:00] _Nero_: kahuna_ yes to acpi.
[20:38:00] _Nero_: noacpi apci=no guess I should add apic to that list?
[20:38:00] kahuna_: bummer. I thought I heard of an mplayer patch to use the ivtv drivers to decode dvd.
[20:38:00] Ribs: kahuna_: Maybe I'm wrong.. *shrug*
[20:38:00] kahuna_: You could try it _Nero_. Or maybe try a different distro
[20:38:00] Ribs: kahuna_: which pvr model is this?
[20:38:00] red_fox: kahuna_, ivtv is just for capturing video, not outputting it
[20:39:00] kahuna_: I had huge stability issues with ubuntu bet they dissapeared when I installed gentoo. Same kernel and everything.
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[20:39:00] kahuna_: Ribs: Could be the 350, I don't remember.
[20:39:00] _Nero_: kahuna_ I was trying to avoid that.. ;)
[20:40:00] _Nero_: spent all day a couple weeks ago getting everything set back up.. but you are probably right.. I am going to try apic=off, and see if that helps.
[20:40:00] Juski: levon: have you got a couple of minutes?
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[20:40:00] kahuna_: Yah, it is the 350
[20:40:00] Ribs: kahuna_: The 350 can decode as well as encode.
[20:40:00] Ribs: So I dunno, maybe it's possible
[20:40:00] kahuna_: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/de . . . oding;#12933
[20:40:00] Ribs: but I've never heard of what you're asking
[20:41:00] FunkyELF_: any idea on how long it will take a p4 3.0GHz w/ HyperThreading to transcode a half hour program? I manually marked the commercials.
[20:41:00] red_fox: kahuna_, ah sorry I forgot about the 350... yeah I think it does use ivtv for output
[20:42:00] Ribs: kahuna_: Well, seems I'm wrong :>
[20:42:00] kahuna_: Too bad I already purchased a 150...
[20:43:00] ** FunkyELF_ really likes his 500 **
[20:43:00] kahuna_: a 500 would never fit in my sff case, but the 500 looks really cool.
[20:44:00] FunkyELF_: I'm getting a new case in the mail. My Thermaltake Tenor came with a busted door for the cd-rom
[20:44:00] FunkyELF_: but sine I'm using a full ATX mobo, the CD-ROM has to go in the top bay anyway and I can't use the door
[20:45:00] kahuna_: Messing with my pundit-r I can't help but think that Asus could have done a lot better
[20:45:00] FunkyELF_: bad design I think....the door should have been for the top bay so that a full / mini ATX could be used
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[20:47:00] kahuna_: the worst part us that in order to support wireless I have to use a USB adapter.
[20:49:00] bob832: does mythtv support internet radio or the FM tuner built into some of the hauppauge cards yet?
[20:50:00] bob832: i checked the mailling list and most of the questions on that topic are 1–2 years old
[20:51:00] FunkyELF_: so there seem to be different ways to delete recorded programs. Is there one that cleans it up real good and deletes it from everywhere else?
[20:51:00] kahuna_: Internet radio would be great. Somthing like streamtuner
[20:51:00] _Nero_: kahuna- look at mythstream
[20:51:00] _Nero_: it works great.
[20:52:00] _Nero_: can do quicktime movie previews, shoutcast, and just about every internet stream I have been able to throw at it.
[20:52:00] kahuna_: Great, This is a non-offical plugin then I take it?
[20:52:00] _Nero_: yup..
[20:52:00] _Nero_: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html
[20:52:00] kahuna_: anyone using myth for DVB?
[20:53:00] ivor: kahuna_: lots of us do.
[20:53:00] FunkyELF_: under manage recordings, there is Delete Recordings and Previously Recorded. What is the difference between these two? When I delete something from the Previously recorded menu, what does that do?
[20:54:00] kahuna_: ivor: Are you running anything more recent than 0.18? I'm wondering if the channel change speed has gotten any better.
[20:54:00] kahuna_: _Nero_: thanks for that link
[20:55:00] bob832: _Nero_: yes thanks
[20:55:00] ivor: kahuna_: current svn. no, channel change is slow at the moment. it needs some TLC.
[20:56:00] _Nero_: np. Its a good little piece of software.. :) (wish they would make it an "official" plugin, or build its features into mythmusic.
[20:57:00] kahuna_: bummer. Oh well. I know the channel change will improve with time.
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[21:02:00] _Nero_: is the current SVN implementing some of the new UI stuff that was being mentioned? Or the interface between plugins (so that, say, mythmusic could be playing in the background, while mythgallery is showing images, etc??)
[21:03:00] GreyFoxx: _Nero_: No
[21:03:00] _Nero_: it sounded like this stuff was due for 0.19, but last I checked, a few weeks ago, none of it was visibly implemented.
[21:03:00] _Nero_: GreyFoxx- do you know if it is being worked on? Or has it been given up for the next release?
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[21:03:00] _Nero_: (its the one reason, IMHO MythTV doesnt seem "polished")
[21:04:00] GreyFoxx: _Nero_: Doesn't seem to be a lot of movement on it, mostly because those doing the work are busy
[21:04:00] _Nero_: gotcha..
[21:04:00] _Nero_: I am triyng to teach myself open GL, but I would doubt anything I did would not be buggy as hell.. lol
[21:04:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[21:05:00] _Nero_: Though I do have mythgallery, now doing a nice fade between images, when you use the remote to change the picture.
[21:05:00] GreyFoxx: How long does the fade take?
[21:05:00] _Nero_: About a 1/4 of a second.
[21:05:00] GreyFoxx: unless it was real quick I would find it annoying. EXCEPT in thecase of a slide show, then it would be nifty
[21:05:00] GreyFoxx: Cool
[21:05:00] _Nero_: not enough to be annoying.. just enough to make a smooth transition from one image to the other.
[21:06:00] _Nero_: Well there already are nice Open GL transitions for slideshows..
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[21:06:00] _Nero_: (and a nice fade that I use a lot).. I just got frustrated, taht if I was narrating a trip or something, and used the remote to change pictures, it was an abrupt flash to the next image.
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[21:11:00] mmurphy: anyone here have a pvr2/350 and a 150 with a huapauge remote?
[21:11:00] SlicerDicer-: hey is anybody familar with irw saying "connect : connection refused"?
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[21:11:00] mmurphy: SlicerDicer: im working on that now ...
[21:11:00] _Nero_: SlicerDice- yes, I had that problem.. make sure that /dev/lirc has correct permissions.
[21:12:00] mmurphy: _Nero_: could it be modprobe lirc_i2c not running?
[21:12:00] SlicerDicer-: _Nero_, ok
[21:12:00] _Nero_: mmurphy- possibly.. though I do lirc_serial.
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[21:13:00] mmurphy: _Nero_: whats that?
[21:13:00] SlicerDicer-: _Nero_, but even when I run irw as root it does it
[21:13:00] mmurphy: SlicerDicer: what distro?
[21:13:00] SlicerDicer-: gentoo
[21:13:00] _Nero_: mmurphy- lirc for a serial port device (ex- homebrew transmitter)
[21:13:00] mmurphy: awe im using pvr remote ... no serial there
[21:13:00] _Nero_: SlicerDice- is lircd running?
[21:14:00] SlicerDicer-: AFAIK yes
[21:14:00] _Nero_: mmurphy- yes- but lirc_serial is to the serial device as lirc_i2c is to the hauppage reciever if I remember correctly..
[21:14:00] _Nero_: brb, dog's gotta go out..
[21:14:00] mmurphy: awe ok thanks :-)
[21:15:00] SlicerDicer-: _Nero_, I guess its not
[21:15:00] SlicerDicer-: _Nero_, no idea what the hell is going on lol
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[21:16:00] _Nero_: ok, you need lircd running..
[21:16:00] _Nero_: lemme look at my setup, and see how I have everything going.
[21:16:00] FunkyELF_: I can't get DVDs working in Myth. I am getting these kind of errors....
[21:16:00] FunkyELF_: libdvdread: Attempting to use device /dev/hda mounted on /mnt/cdrom for CSS authentication
[21:16:00] FunkyELF_: libdvdread: Could not open device with libdvdcss.
[21:16:00] FunkyELF_: libdvdread: Can't open /dev/hda for reading
[21:16:00] FunkyELF_: libdvdread: Device /dev/hda inaccessible, CSS authentication not available.
[21:17:00] FunkyELF_: any ideas?
[21:17:00] Rince: well – is /dev/hda your dvd-drive?
[21:17:00] beavis: CSS authentication not available.
[21:17:00] FunkyELF_: no, sda and sdb are my hard drives
[21:18:00] FunkyELF_: hda is my dvd
[21:18:00] Rince: yepp
[21:18:00] Rince: means you need the decryption-library for DVDs
[21:18:00] Rince: which isn't available for non-windows-systems
[21:18:00] Rince: you can read every DVD without regional or copy protection
[21:18:00] FunkyELF_: which library is that?
[21:19:00] Rince: but no movie or similar
[21:19:00] _Nero_: SlicerDice- you need to have lircd running, then you need to modprobe lirc_i2c correctly
[21:20:00] SlicerDicer-: _Nero_, workin on it hang on
[21:20:00] FunkyELF_: * media-libs/libdvdcss
[21:20:00] FunkyELF_: Latest version available: 1.2.8
[21:20:00] FunkyELF_: Latest version installed: 1.2.8
[21:20:00] SlicerDicer-: lirc modules are running
[21:20:00] FunkyELF_: I seems I have that library...is that the one you were talking about Rince ?
[21:20:00] mmurphy: _Nero_: what distro do you ue?
[21:21:00] mmurphy: use?
[21:21:00] Rince: if myth is able to use it, yes
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[21:21:00] _Nero_: mmurphy- I am using Fedora C4
[21:21:00] Darby: Hi all. I have a myth box I built for my mom, mailed it off to her and then I had to get a wireless usb card configured on it remotely. That all worked fine, but the IP address changed. Now, she gets a can't connect to database error. I had her change the DB address in mythtv-setup but that didn't fix it. I had her try to connect to the mythconvrg database from the command line and it gives...
[21:21:00] mmurphy: _Nero_: really?
[21:21:00] Darby: ...a can't connect using /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock. It turns out that the mysql.sock and .pid file do not exist. When I have her try to restart mysql, it stops fine but doesn't start. When I have her try to start it it says it's already running, but there is no mysql.sock or .pid file anywhere on the system. This is running gentoo. Any ideas, or should I try the mysql channel?
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[21:21:00] mmurphy: _Nero_: what tunner u have?
[21:21:00] _Nero_: mmurphy- nope.. I was just kidding.. ;) (yes really.. )
[21:21:00] _Nero_: I have a hauppage 250
[21:21:00] mmurphy: _Nero_ o can i messagew you?
[21:21:00] _Nero_: sure
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[21:22:00] FunkyELF_: anyone here have DVD playing working with Gentoo?
[21:23:00] Darby: I have dvd playing working with gentoo, but I can't get dvd ripping working
[21:23:00] FunkyELF_: Darby, are you starting the transcoding daemon?
[21:24:00] Darby: I don't think so, no. all my files are still .nuv
[21:24:00] FunkyELF_: no...to rip you need to run mtd -d or add it to your rc.local files
[21:24:00] Darby: ahhh ok. thanks!
[21:24:00] FunkyELF_: Darby, did 'playing' dvd's just work out of the box for you?
[21:25:00] Darby: no.. I tthink I had to chmod 777 my dvd
[21:25:00] Darby: I kept getting permission denied
[21:26:00] FunkyELF_: yeah...I added myself to the CDROM group and that got cleared up, but Now I'm having other problems if you see what I pasted above
[21:26:00] PatrickDK: are you sure the dvd fs is compiled in your kernel?
[21:26:00] ** FunkyELF_ checks **
[21:26:00] FunkyELF_: I was able to go into /mnt/cdrom and see the video_ts folder if that means anything
[21:27:00] PatrickDK: maybe/maybe not
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[21:27:00] PatrickDK: some dvd have an iso fs on them
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[21:29:00] FunkyELF_: PatrickDK, I see FileSystems --> CD-ROM/DVD Filesystems ---> ISO 9660 CDROM file system support
[21:29:00] FunkyELF_: I have that
[21:29:00] PatrickDK: you need UDF
[21:29:00] SlicerDicer-: how can I make sure that LIRC is looking at the proper location in /dev?
[21:29:00] laga: man lircd
[21:29:00] laga: it's in there
[21:29:00] SlicerDicer-: alright
[21:29:00] FunkyELF_: PatrickDK, yeah, I have that too...so that wasn't the problem
[21:30:00] PatrickDK: hmm
[21:30:00] kahuna_: How much processor would I need for a pchdtv?
[21:30:00] FunkyELF_: The only one I didn't have under that menu was Tranparent decompression extension
[21:30:00] PatrickDK: funky, did you compile libdvdread with ctss support?
[21:30:00] PatrickDK: the dvd encryption stuff?
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[21:30:00] PatrickDK: maybe your dvd is encrypted andthat is the problem?
[21:31:00] PatrickDK: kahuna, to record, 100mhz or so
[21:31:00] PatrickDK: to playback, well, ALOT
[21:31:00] FunkyELF_: PatrickDK, I didn't see that as a compile option under gentoo...maybe it is included by default
[21:31:00] PatrickDK: I have no idea about gentoo
[21:31:00] PatrickDK: but I doubt it's included default
[21:32:00] PatrickDK: it voilates ALOT of licensing
[21:32:00] FunkyELF_: Are a lot of dvd's encrypted?
[21:32:00] Darby: for gentoo, add it to your use flags in /etc/make.conf
[21:32:00] FunkyELF_: the one I am trying to watch I got from NetFlix.... Fever Pitch
[21:32:00] PatrickDK: funky, only like 90% of the ones in USA
[21:32:00] PatrickDK: the only ones that really aren't, are the play in any zone dvd's
[21:32:00] FunkyELF_: ha...wow. And that's not default...wow
[21:33:00] kahuna_: Look at the use flags. I think there's something for CSS
[21:33:00] FunkyELF_: so I need ctss support?
[21:33:00] PatrickDK: so, your japanese anime will probably work
[21:33:00] PatrickDK: css
[21:33:00] PatrickDK: I was attempting to remember off the top of my head
[21:33:00] Juski: shhh or the DMCA agents will come in their black helicopters!
[21:33:00] Darby: dvd Adds support for DVDs
[21:33:00] Darby: dvdr Adds support for DVD writer hardware (e.g. in xcdroast)
[21:33:00] Darby: dvdread Enables usage of Ogle's libdvdread for DVD playback
[21:33:00] FunkyELF_: I have libdvdcss built...which is seperate from libdvdread
[21:33:00] Darby: those are the 3 flags I found for dvds. I don't know if there is a css flag
[21:34:00] PatrickDK: hmm, ya that is good
[21:34:00] PatrickDK: I wonder if libdvdread knows you have that built
[21:34:00] FunkyELF_: I think it does from the errors that I was getting
[21:34:00] FunkyELF_: libdvdread: Could not open device with libdvdcss.
[21:34:00] Juski: there's a thing.. does linux even care about dvd regions?
[21:34:00] PatrickDK: ya, I just know I build dvdcss and dvdread, and it all worked for me, no problems
[21:34:00] PatrickDK: juski, the dvd drive does
[21:35:00] Juski: ack
[21:35:00] SlicerDicer-: well laga it wont load the character devices :)
[21:35:00] kahuna_: Is 2.8 Ghz enough for hdtv playback?
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[21:35:00] xris: yes
[21:35:00] Juski: ahh not to worry I just remembered I can rip any DVD & make it region free (ahem)
[21:36:00] PatrickDK: juski, I don't think you can even rip it
[21:36:00] PatrickDK: if it's the wrong region
[21:36:00] PatrickDK: cause the dvd drive won't let you read it (I may be wrong)
[21:36:00] PatrickDK: my dvd drives firmware has been patched for region free for years now
[21:36:00] Juski: ahh well.. just there's a film I want on DVD, and only the region1 version is widescreen
[21:37:00] PatrickDK: most dvd drives let you change it 5 times, before it won't let you change the region setting again
[21:38:00] Juski: heh.. evil thing, region coding, but not as much as HDCP
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[21:38:00] PatrickDK: hmm, printed out my timesheet on the office printer over vpn, got to love that
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[21:38:00] jd86: Ok i made what was probably a bad decision... but i baught a nvidia personal cinima thingy mer bobber.. that work with linux?
[21:39:00] PatrickDK: jd86 what chipset it uses?
[21:39:00] jd86: i cant tell its under a huge heatsink..
[21:39:00] jd86: i'm just ripping it out of the box now
[21:39:00] PatrickDK: hmm well last I knew nvidia didn't make video cards
[21:39:00] PatrickDK: who makes it
[21:39:00] FunkyELF_: PatrickDK, my work's VPN won't let me print stuff on my home network. I can either see all of my home stuff when I'm not VPN'd in or I can see only the stuff at work when I am VPN'd in
[21:39:00] Juski: jd86... is this a thing with a tuner & video inputs on it?
[21:40:00] PatrickDK: funkyelf, I installed and manage the vpn :)
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[21:40:00] jd86: Juski: its a tuner.. with also some boxy thing that attaches to it with inputs, and i think its a vid card.. which is why i got like oh my that really probably doesn't work but it was either buy it or live knowing it might ahve worked and not baught it
[21:40:00] dfcc: hi, do you think these specs are ok for recording an watching programs fullscreen, not at the same tho, p3–866mhz, 512mb ram, hauppauge nova-t pci card and 160gb hard disk?
[21:40:00] FunkyELF_: nice....brb
[21:40:00] PatrickDK: funky, that doesn't sound like a vpn at all
[21:40:00] jd86: cool remote..
[21:40:00] PatrickDK: that sounds like terminal services
[21:41:00] PatrickDK: vpn is just a network tunnel
[21:41:00] Juski: jd86.. it won't work in linux... probably uses 'nvtv' encoder
[21:41:00] jd86: alright :(
[21:41:00] Juski: one of the 'new generation' devices made for (ack) MCE
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[21:41:00] Juski: given enough time.. someone might start work on a driver though
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[21:42:00] jd86: guess i'll let my sister use it on winders.
[21:42:00] Juski: or nvidia might even release a driver ;)
[21:42:00] jd86: Juski: wouldn't doubt that
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[21:43:00] Darby: FunkyElf, there is a setting in the client to disable local network when connected. that might help
[21:43:00] Juski: argghh.. I still can't find the dbox2 patch I managed to get to a) patch cleanly and b) compile
[21:43:00] Juski: (with 0.18.1)
[21:43:00] jd86: ooh its got a philips tuner thing on it
[21:43:00] Juski: put it in a linux machine & do lspci on it
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[21:44:00] jd86: oh i will
[21:44:00] Juski: or give out its model number
[21:44:00] jd86: finding the actual model number would take longer then putting it in a box
[21:44:00] jd86: at least one of the things i got today wasn't a total waste... unlike this nvidia card probably will be a waste
[21:45:00] jd86: i got a laserjet 4000
[21:45:00] FunkyELF_: how would I play a DVD from the command line using mplayer. Maybe I will try to get it working with mplayer first, then with Myth
[21:45:00] Juski: jd86.. it's got one hell of a remote with it, if it's the one I just found
[21:45:00] jd86: oh crap
[21:45:00] Juski: FunkyELF.. use xine or vlc instead
[21:45:00] jd86: its f*cking agp.
[21:46:00] Juski: what did you expect from a modern graphics card?
[21:46:00] jd86: eh
[21:47:00] FunkyELF_: Juski, okay, I just compiled xine. How do I play a DVD with it?
[21:47:00] Juski: er...
[21:47:00] jd86: i dont think it has a model number
[21:47:00] Juski: FunkyELF: http://dvd.sourceforge.net/xine-howto/en_GB/h . . . 4.html#ss4.2
[21:48:00] Juski: is google blocked where you live, FunkyELF? ;)
[21:49:00] jd86: where am i goign to stick this to see if it works/
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[21:49:00] FunkyELF_: Juski, no....it is just I am unsure of myself when I try to run it and I get those kind of errors
[21:49:00] Juski: jd86... chances are the video OUT hardware will work just fine in Linux
[21:50:00] jd86: yea
[21:50:00] FunkyELF_: Juski, actually, I emerged xinetd by accident instead of xine-ui
[21:50:00] jd86: well
[21:50:00] jd86: the card in the mythtv box
[21:50:00] jd86: is nvidia
[21:50:00] _Nero_: snd: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted. <--- that doesn't sound good.. :/
[21:50:00] jd86: so maybe the video out will just continue working
[21:50:00] Juski: probably will, jd86.. they're pretty generic
[21:51:00] gratz|home: do you need 'joystick-menu' configure options if using lirc with a remote for mythtv or if you use --disable-joystick-menu the remote should still work?
[21:51:00] FunkyELF_: anyone know where to buy a box that already has MythTV on it? Some guys at work were interested. I never came across any stuff like that when I was reading up on Myth.
[21:52:00] Juski: joystick-menu, as its name suggests, is for operating the menus with.. (ta-da!) A JOYSTICK.. as in a human interface originally designed for playing games
[21:53:00] jd86: well if this doesn't work i'm going to use this remote
[21:53:00] Juski: .. and so will have no bearing on operation with LIRC (AFAIK)
[21:55:00] jd86: would it just be once device in lspci? the VGA compatible controller: nvidia corp nv18 gefblahblbh
[21:56:00] Juski: FunkyELF... they are available... but cost major $$$$$$
[21:57:00] Juski: jd86.. maybe. I suspect the video encoder etc are addressed through the GPU
[21:58:00] jd86: Juski: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux. . . . =0&num=3 << they mention riatv whats that?
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[21:59:00] jd86: sorry
[21:59:00] jd86: rivatv
[21:59:00] FunkyELF_: Juski, tell me about it....mine cost $1300 and I built it myself :-/
[22:00:00] Juski: wtf is rivatv?
[22:00:00] jd86: Juski: http://rivatv.sf.net
[22:00:00] Juski: ooooo
[22:01:00] Juski: note they say 'nvtv not supported YET'
[22:01:00] Juski: YET might been 'we're working on it'
[22:03:00] mrec: does rivatv support reading from /dev/video0?
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[22:05:00] jd86: it says its supported.
[22:05:00] jd86: ..
[22:06:00] jd86: my card that is.
[22:07:00] Juski: mrec: it's v4l compliant, so probably
[22:08:00] jd86: it detected it i think
[22:08:00] jd86: problem is i dont know how this stuff is going to go because theres two cards in there
[22:08:00] Juski: cool... so it might be a software encoding video-input..
[22:09:00] jd86: major problem is that i cant have both nvidia module and rivatv loaded at once....
[22:09:00] Juski: really?
[22:09:00] jd86: so maybe a dedicated backend might be a good idea
[22:09:00] jd86: yea
[22:09:00] jd86: they dont like each other
[22:09:00] jd86: the nvidia driver kills it
[22:10:00] jd86: andi need a nv-tv-out
[22:10:00] Juski: jd86: they're working on it
[22:10:00] Juski: http://rivatv.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[22:10:00] jd86: yea ive been reading
[22:12:00] Juski: cool that peeps are working on that stuff though
[22:12:00] mrec: Juski: that would be very nice for debugging drivers
[22:12:00] jd86: I'll try the nvtv-out
[22:12:00] mrec: anyway I already use mplayer for that
[22:14:00] jd86: if this works i'm going to kiss something
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[22:14:00] Juski: just watched the VOOM promo video... very adventurous of them, that system
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[22:21:00] FunkyELF_: okay, I have set it up so that when a program uses alsa that it'll always go through my s/pdif. But now what about the programs where I can't choose...i.e. netscape-flash. How can I set it up so that alsa is default for sound instead of OSS?
[22:21:00] FunkyELF_: do I just get rid of oss?
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[22:22:00] jd86: lets see if i can just use a really old nvidia driver
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[22:38:00] Juski: jd86 – you probably can
[22:41:00] jd86: naw its not going to compile with this kernel the earlist version i can use is in the 5000's
[22:42:00] jd86: and all the work they've done to the kernel since those were in use would make building the interfacedodad difficult
[22:42:00] jd86: so its like i can either have the tuner or the tv out.
[22:42:00] jd86: hmm
[22:45:00] jd86: maybe i can do frontend/backend on different machines
[22:45:00] jd86: i wonder what the minimal is for frontend
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[22:58:00] NightMonkey: Is there a util out there that makes symlinks to program files which pulls show info out of the DB and names the symlinks with that data?
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[22:59:00] NightMonkey: I thought I heard that nuvexport was gonna get this feature, but perhaps I was dreaming?
[23:00:00] NightMonkey: If it doesn't exist, I think I'll whip up a perl script to do it.
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[23:01:00] jd86: ugh tough decisions
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[23:03:00] GreyFoxx: NightMonkey: Mythlink
[23:03:00] GreyFoxx: it;s in the contrib directory with the source
[23:04:00] GreyFoxx: Though in svn there might be a mythrename which renames the original rather than symlink
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[23:10:00] SlicerDicer-: Cardoe, are you around?
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[23:14:00] SlicerDicer-: well I found something interesting
[23:15:00] SlicerDicer-: if I run mythtv play a video, then watch it all the way through or exit the video then try to load another video it crashes. BUT!! if I exit out of the browser menu for recorded programs then go back into it I can select a video  :/ I dont know what is causing it to crash when that happens
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[23:17:00] CyberKnet: okay. cleaner out my den yesterday. have various assorted computer junk I no longer need. Figured I'd offer for trade in here before I sought alternative means of removal from my premesis.
[23:18:00] CyberKnet: 1 belkin 2 port kvm switch. analog vga with ps/2 keyboard and mouse. lightly used. good condition.
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[23:19:00] [1]lucas: heya. I was wondering if if someone has a good idea on how I can have the scheduler do what I like in this scenario:
[23:19:00] CyberKnet: this one goes out to you greyfoxx, 1 Creative dxr3 dvd/mpeg2 decoder card with vga input dongle.
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[23:19:00] Darby: FunkyElf, I tried running mtd and got this: mtd was built without transcode support. It won't do anything. Any idea how to make gentoo compile that in?
[23:19:00] [1]lucas: always record the latest news broadcast. I have 3 different ones I like. I'd like the newest one always to be recorded.
[23:20:00] [1]lucas: however, expiry as far as I've found works on a record-rule by record-rule basis, not on a recording group basis.
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[23:24:00] NightMonkey: GreyFoxx: Thank you.
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[23:27:00] Juski: Darby: try putting 'transcode' in your USE flags
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[23:27:00] Darby: ahhh, cool. Should have guessed that one :-)
[23:28:00] twisted_one: hey guys, I know many of you use transcode so I was thinking you might be able to help... I have a .avi file (Im assuming its mpeg4 of some sort) and I want to convert it to be playable on a set top dvd box (mpeg2 IIRC). I've been reading this manpage for transcode for about 30 minutes and I feel overwhelmed.... any advice/suggestions?
[23:31:00] _Nero_: anyone here have problems with the UI being all "torn up"??
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[23:34:00] FunkyELF_: before I transcode a program I can open the .nuv file in windows because it is an mpeg2 file since I have a pvr 500. After I transcode I can't open it in windows anymore. I think I was using mpeg4. I have almost all codecs on that windows machine since I installed the k-lite codec pack.
[23:35:00] FunkyELF_: I only saw one option "begin transcoding" when I went to watch recordings and right the right arrow. It didn't ask me what to use. I did set up that "From mpeg2" to use mpeg4
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[23:40:00] Captain_Murdoch: FunkyELF_: it uses mpeg4 but in a nuppel .nuv container so you need something like dsmyth to play it under windows or you can just use nuvexport to create a .avi file with mpeg4 content.
[23:40:00] FunkyELF_: okay...and what is mpeg4 exactly? Divx, xvid?
[23:41:00] Captain_Murdoch: those are both variations on it I believe.
[23:41:00] FunkyELF_: right...what which one is it in myth?
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[23:42:00] FunkyELF_: the only one I can choose is called "mpeg4"
[23:42:00] jd86: I've looked thru assorted docs and even googled it (yes!heh) and i can't find how to have mythtv automatically remove commercials (that part is optional) and then re encode it so that my drive doesn't fill up so fast... can this be done?
[23:43:00] Captain_Murdoch: FunkyELF_: if you use dsmyth it should play the resulting file I think, otherwise you need nuvexport.
[23:43:00] dfcc: hey, does anyone know waht kind of psu i would need to run a athlon xp3000, with 1gb of ram, one hd, one dvd drive, one tv card and a radeon 9800se?
[23:44:00] Captain_Murdoch: jd86: no, it flags commercials, it won't automatically remove them from the file unless you setup a User Job to copy the commecial skip list to the cutlist and then transcode.
[23:44:00] jd86: Captain_Murdoch: well do you know how to do the rest?
[23:45:00] jd86: food time
[23:45:00] Captain_Murdoch: search the mailing lists, it's documented several times there.
[23:49:00] Captain_Murdoch: search for --gencutlist I think
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