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| [00:00:00] | rage-: | any SVN users here? |
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| [00:31:00] | bryce_: | hrm. I think it's time to bag it with knoppmyth. |
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| [00:43:00] | PaulWay: | Hi all |
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| [01:00:00] | simon_c: | Hi All. I've a probelm getting X to work right on the TVout of my graphics card. Text mode looks fine, but when I run "startx" (or anythink that starts x) I just get a green screen. |
| [01:00:00] | simon_c: | hw is a P2–350 with an ATI Rage Pro II-MPEG grapics card. |
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| [01:00:00] | simon_c: | (it's hopefully going to be a front end box) |
| [01:00:00] | comcipher: | do you ahve a monitor hooked up as well or just a TV to the TVout? |
| [01:00:00] | simon_c: | all worked fine with a VGA monitor. |
| [01:01:00] | simon_c: | but there's only the TV hooked up now. |
| [01:01:00] | PaulWay: | I know this is slightly off topic, but has anyone got experience setting up and connecting NFS shares? |
| [01:01:00] | simon_c: | PaulWay: Yep. What's the problem ? |
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| [01:02:00] | PaulWay: | I've allowed the appropriate traffic through iptables, and I've set up /etc/exports correctly (using FC4's system-config-nfs) |
| [01:02:00] | PaulWay: | but when I try to do a mount on the remote machine I get "Permission denied" by the remote machine. |
| [01:03:00] | simon_c: | do you see anything in the server's logs ? |
| [01:03:00] | PaulWay: | The nfsnobody user has permission to see the directory in question on the server. |
| [01:03:00] | PaulWay: | And I'm using the option to smash all access down to the nfsnobody user. |
| [01:03:00] | PaulWay: | look in dmesg, is that right? |
| [01:03:00] | simon_c: | tail -f /var/log/messages |
| [01:03:00] | PaulWay: | or just tail /var/log/messages |
| [01:04:00] | comcipher: | simon_c: have you checked your xF86config or xorg.conf files? |
| [01:04:00] | PaulWay: | Ah, not exported. |
| [01:05:00] | PaulWay: | I thought if I had /opt exported then remote users could mount /opt/subpath/dir – no? |
| [01:05:00] | simon_c: | comcipher: xorg.conf. What would I be checking for ? |
| [01:05:00] | simon_c: | PaulWay: *IF* they are on the same file system. |
| [01:05:00] | simon_c: | but if /opt/subpath/dir is a differnet disk/partition, no. |
| [01:05:00] | PaulWay: | Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh! *is enlightened* |
| [01:06:00] | comcipher: | simon_c: making sure the screens are all setup properly. What distro are you running? |
| [01:06:00] | PaulWay: | That'll do it. |
| [01:06:00] | simon_c: | suse9.3 |
| [01:06:00] | PaulWay: | Hmmm – no, actually, /opt/music/stream is part of /opt – it's /opt/video that's a different disk. |
| [01:07:00] | PaulWay: | simon_c: what are you seeing in the /var/log/xorg.0.log or whatever? |
| [01:07:00] | simon_c: | the TVout isn't a seperate screen. it's just another output of the same screen. I don't think cards this old were dual head :) |
| [01:07:00] | PaulWay: | Hang on, afk. |
| [01:07:00] | comcipher: | simon_c: I'm not terribly familiar with suse, you could check if anyone has made any example config files for it. For example, i'm on knoppmyth (debian) and I ended up using an example nvidia config file |
| [01:07:00] | comcipher: | I was having a bitch of a time getting it to run correctly |
| [01:08:00] | comcipher: | the config file I used fixed everything |
| [01:08:00] | simon_c: | comcipher: :-) Trying to track down log files now. |
| [01:09:00] | simon_c: | comcipher: Normally, you just use sax2 to configure the display. And normally, the TVout "just works" I'm half thinking I've got a bug with this card, which will be a PITA. |
| [01:10:00] | comcipher: | I have an nvidia card and it should have "just worked" but it didn't. To this day i'm still not sure why it was messed up |
| [01:11:00] | comcipher: | things in linux tend to be a pain in the ass from time to time |
| [01:11:00] | simon_c: | My other box has an nvidia card, and that did work. this one .......... |
| [01:11:00] | simon_c: | comcipher: Yes :-( |
| [01:12:00] | simon_c: | I'm thinking the mode line is totally screwed for the TV, or the card just doesn't like the TVOUT. |
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| [01:19:00] | simon_c: | nothing obvious in the log files :-( |
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| [01:19:00] | m3avrck: | hi all... newbie here with a question |
| [01:20:00] | rage-: | I just grabbed the latest SVN and was wondering if its known what might be keeping myth from locking onto channels that it could lock onto before |
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| [01:21:00] | m3avrck: | i'm setting up Knoppmyth on a Pentium III 800 with a Hauppauge 350 ... only using this for display on a monitor, not using tv-out right now ... running the basic setup and then going into Knoppmyth and tv works on my monitor |
| [01:21:00] | m3avrck: | ... do i need to enable the setting "enable PVR 350 tv out and hardware encoding" ? ... does the basic setup make use of the hardware encoding? i've tried the iptv drivers but nothing seems to work with those but not sure if they aren't working because im not actually using tvout right now |
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| [01:23:00] | simon_c: | Hummm. Well the X session is running, cos I just heard the sound as is started up, but all I see is a green screen. |
| [01:24:00] | simon_c: | :-( |
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| [01:31:00] | NightBird: | m3avrck, I believe the tv out for the pvr 350 is only meant if the user wants to use the coax tv output from the pvr 350... |
| [01:31:00] | m3avrck: | thanks NightBird |
| [01:31:00] | NightBird: | not haveing it enabled means it still uses hardware encoding, it just doesn't output to the tv-out |
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| [01:37:00] | PatrickDK: | m3avrck, the green screen is something else |
| [01:37:00] | PatrickDK: | there are documents about it on websites |
| [01:38:00] | PatrickDK: | you need to modify one of the regs |
| [01:39:00] | Goldfisch: | Is GLX needed to playback stuff on MythTV? |
| [01:39:00] | PatrickDK: | no |
| [01:40:00] | PatrickDK: | it just helps keep any flickering from happening |
| [01:40:00] | PatrickDK: | for better overall quality |
| [01:41:00] | Goldfisch: | I updated to latest SVN release today, and when trying to play a show, got a blue screen. Sound was okay. |
| [01:42:00] | PaulWay: | Hey, simon_c, are you using PAL TV? |
| [01:48:00] | simon_c: | PaulWay: Yes, |
| [01:48:00] | simon_c: | PaulWay: but given up for tonight. |
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| [01:59:00] | Criggie: | mmm I love the smell of exploding ATX PSUs in the morning air.... |
| [01:59:00] | PatrickDK: | hehe |
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| [02:16:00] | briand: | PatrickDK: are you still around? |
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| [03:02:00] | PatrickDK: | kinda |
| [03:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | haha Yet another CBS movie of the week where I recognize all of the locations and friends of mine are extras heh |
| [03:04:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, I just wish I could get winxp to act correctly |
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| [03:04:00] | PatrickDK: | it keeps not being able to create any more dialog box's after I get about 30 programs running |
| [03:04:00] | JaPh-FleX: | evenin all |
| [03:05:00] | PatrickDK: | but oh well, this isn't a windows chan |
| [03:05:00] | JaPh-FleX: | anyone happen to know if its possible to split off which monitor myth shows the menu/guide/cd covers on and which monitor gets fed the video? |
| [03:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | JaPh-FleX: No, there is nothing in there to control that |
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| [03:06:00] | PatrickDK: | japh-flex, only if you use a 350 for output |
| [03:06:00] | JaPh-FleX: | patrick: what do you mean? |
| [03:06:00] | poonj: | hey guys, it says that in order for me to rip dvds using mythdvd, I need mtd. I have mtd for debian, but it doesn't support transcoding. where can I get a .deb package for mtd that has transcoding with it? |
| [03:07:00] | PatrickDK: | setup X on your normal video card |
| [03:07:00] | JaPh-FleX: | what if I just have a geforce set up for dual-head |
| [03:07:00] | JaPh-FleX: | oh, I see |
| [03:07:00] | PatrickDK: | tell it your using the 350 for output |
| [03:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | JaPh-FleX: No |
| [03:07:00] | JaPh-FleX: | damnit, that's just stupid |
| [03:07:00] | JaPh-FleX: | I have this kickass touchscreen and I cant actually use it |
| [03:07:00] | PatrickDK: | you could write some wrappers for mplayer |
| [03:07:00] | JaPh-FleX: | yeah, I was hoping to avoid hacking the code, guess I will |
| [03:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | JaPh-FleX: None of the menus would be available while avideo is playing anyway |
| [03:08:00] | JaPh-FleX: | that's what bugs me |
| [03:08:00] | JaPh-FleX: | why can't I have my tv playing, and the other screen showing a tv guide |
| [03:08:00] | JaPh-FleX: | or a slide show |
| [03:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Plus myth doesn't accept mouse presses so the touch screen wont be usable to control the menus directly |
| [03:08:00] | ** JaPh-FleX cant be the first to think of this ** | |
| [03:09:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, I wouldn't use that, but I would love to be able to use a tabletpc to control it |
| [03:09:00] | JaPh-FleX: | grey: that I can code in, I think |
| [03:09:00] | PatrickDK: | or a remote with lcd that had 2 way sync |
| [03:09:00] | JaPh-FleX: | here, http://www.iuneed.com |
| [03:09:00] | JaPh-FleX: | check out the x15 |
| [03:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is going to be a ui redesign which will allow for the video to play while menus are in use. But I doubt they would have anything in there to display menus on a seperate screen. But of course you can add that on your own |
| [03:10:00] | JaPh-FleX: | grey: why wouldn't that just be coded in? |
| [03:10:00] | JaPh-FleX: | I mean, its one more DB table, for each screen, put in a monitor # |
| [03:10:00] | PatrickDK: | oh heh, my computer is going bee 200' away from my screen |
| [03:11:00] | briand: | PatrickDK: okay.. so i stopped X11, shutdown mythbackend, and it still won't rmmod ivtv |
| [03:11:00] | JaPh-FleX: | pat: yeah, but that makes a sweet component in my stereo stack |
| [03:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | JaPh-FleX: I didn't say it wont, just I don't expect it. Noone who actually submits code has mentioned a desire for that sort of thing |
| [03:11:00] | JaPh-FleX: | im somewhat tempted to hack it in |
| [03:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Of course someone might very well do it |
| [03:12:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, my stereo stack is going be 200' away, nothing in the room except inwall speakers and wallmounted lcd |
| [03:12:00] | briand: | stadium seating, as well? :) |
| [03:12:00] | JaPh-FleX: | its not really that hard, youre just launching mplayer anyway, just launch it to a different x session |
| [03:12:00] | PatrickDK: | briand, na, in a living room? |
| [03:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | My home theatre room will have a remote, my touchscreen control panel and thye projector. nothing more |
| [03:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | JaPh-FleX: Uhhh Myth has an internal player. |
| [03:13:00] | JaPh-FleX: | and how do you make the touchscreen control panel work?: that's what im trying to do |
| [03:13:00] | PatrickDK: | I'm not liking projectors right now |
| [03:13:00] | JaPh-FleX: | grey: then why does it require mplayer? |
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| [03:13:00] | briand: | PatrickDK: actually, i saw a house under construction here... and their 'home theater' was being constructed over their four car garage... and did, indeed, include stadium seating |
| [03:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | for recordings. You can configure mythvideo and or mythdvd to use external players |
| [03:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | BUT you can also choose to use the internal one |
| [03:13:00] | briand: | (and a separate projection/control booth) |
| [03:13:00] | PatrickDK: | briand, I know, I know many people with it |
| [03:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | JaPh-FleX: Myth does not require mplayer |
| [03:13:00] | JaPh-FleX: | ah |
| [03:13:00] | JaPh-FleX: | ok, I must have read wrong |
| [03:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use the internal player for mythvideo as well |
| [03:13:00] | PatrickDK: | have some very rich customers |
| [03:13:00] | JaPh-FleX: | grey: how will your touch control panel work |
| [03:14:00] | JaPh-FleX: | if myth wont support it |
| [03:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | JaPh-FleX:I clone the myth screen onto it. Myth runs at 800x600 on the tv output. and I clone it on to my 1024x768 touch screenpanel |
| [03:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I place control windows /buttons AROUND the 800x600 screen |
| [03:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | And send simulated keystroks |
| [03:15:00] | briand: | what brand of touchscreen are you using, GreyFoxx ? |
| [03:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | it also allows staqtus/monitoring windows on the screen |
| [03:15:00] | JaPh-FleX: | grey: then your touchpanel will also play the video, wont it? |
| [03:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | JaPh-FleX: Like this. This is a mockup I did when I first started: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/controlpanel.png |
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| [03:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | JaPh-FleX: Correct. It's a complete clone |
| [03:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | briand: One I pulled out of an old touchscreen Kiosk. EloSystems |
| [03:16:00] | briand: | ah.. okay. |
| [03:16:00] | JaPh-FleX: | grey: that's exactly what I want on mine, but how do you get around the fact that the touch is 1024x768, and the TV is 1890x1080 or whatever |
| [03:16:00] | briand: | we have dual touchscreens controlling all the audio/video where I work. |
| [03:17:00] | JaPh-FleX: | if I clone it, the tv shows a postage stamp |
| [03:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't since my output to the TV/project isn't that high |
| [03:17:00] | briand: | and (if you had the money/time) the same could be set up at home to control one's home theater |
| [03:17:00] | JaPh-FleX: | ok, how would I? :) |
| [03:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | JaPh-FleX: No idea. It's not an issue I have to deal with so I've put no thought into that :) I clone the smaller TV onto the bigger touch screen. Not the other way around :) |
| [03:18:00] | JaPh-FleX: | yeah |
| [03:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | The first day I hooked it up : http://pics.phaze.org/?album=albums/2005/08-0 . . . nMythTV& |
| [03:18:00] | JaPh-FleX: | apparently im the only one with an HDTV trying this |
| [03:18:00] | JaPh-FleX: | everyone says clone it |
| [03:19:00] | JaPh-FleX: | ah, nice |
| [03:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got it in a frame/box now |
| [03:20:00] | PatrickDK: | briand, did you unload lirc* modules? |
| [03:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | Gonna cut a hole and mount a USB hub in there for game controllers |
| [03:20:00] | briand: | no, should I have? |
| [03:20:00] | JaPh-FleX: | wow, youre goin all out |
| [03:20:00] | PatrickDK: | ya |
| [03:20:00] | JaPh-FleX: | I went simple |
| [03:20:00] | JaPh-FleX: | HTPC box, a receiver/amp |
| [03:21:00] | JaPh-FleX: | and a huge-ass HDTV |
| [03:21:00] | briand: | ah.. because lirc is using the remote on the pvr-350 card... |
| [03:21:00] | JaPh-FleX: | and 7.1 bose |
| [03:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | JaPh-FleX: This will sit right next to the couch. I'll likely write in some controlsfor controlling lights and such |
| [03:22:00] | FITH: | Hmm, are there debs of 0.18.1 out there that have been built since libqt3c102 went away? |
| [03:22:00] | briand: | i'll try it again after 10:00 local |
| [03:22:00] | JaPh-FleX: | oh, hehe, my remote already connects to the touch panel in the wall for that |
| [03:22:00] | Surye: | is SVN in flux, or could I use it? |
| [03:22:00] | briand: | (myth is recording Law & Order right now... |
| [03:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Surye: I have no problem with svn (pvr250s + dvb) |
| [03:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | But most people having problems these days are dvb related |
| [03:23:00] | rage-: | Surye, I can't tune to all the channels right now with SVN that I could before with 18.1 |
| [03:23:00] | rage-: | Surye, I can't lock onto the channels |
| [03:24:00] | Surye: | Hmm.. |
| [03:24:00] | FITH: | or am I just better off not using the debs from dijkstra.csh.rit.edu? |
| [03:25:00] | poonj: | heyu guys |
| [03:25:00] | poonj: | if I build mythdvd |
| [03:25:00] | poonj: | where do I enable transcode? |
| [03:25:00] | FITH: | ah wait... maybe I'll use his source to rebuild stuff |
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| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Damn I love Turkey Day |
| [03:31:00] | briand: | is it turkey day, already? |
| [03:31:00] | briand: | ...or are you just looking forward to it? |
| [03:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | It is in Canada |
| [03:31:00] | briand: | aha |
| [03:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | You have a month to go |
| [03:31:00] | briand: | similar to the american thanksgiving? |
| [03:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Pretty much |
| [03:31:00] | briand: | cool |
| [03:32:00] | JackPo: | god |
| [03:32:00] | JackPo: | does MythTV work with HD3000 over analog cable? |
| [03:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | TD today, and nother tomorrow :) |
| [03:32:00] | briand: | the best part of thanksgiving is the following week's worth of leftovers! |
| [03:33:00] | briand: | turkey sandwiches |
| [03:33:00] | briand: | etc. |
| [03:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I like the first meal. Yummmmm |
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| [03:33:00] | briand: | as do I... but also like the next day's "open face" (hot) turkey sandwiches, with mashed potatoes, stuffing, etc... |
| [03:33:00] | JackPo: | anyone? |
| [03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | JackPo: According to what I've read it can if you use the drivers from the pchdtv people. Not sure it will if you use the dvb drivers |
| [03:34:00] | briand: | then, the "regular" turkey sandwiches... |
| [03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | But since I don't have one I can't confirm |
| [03:34:00] | briand: | and various turkey cassaroles... |
| [03:34:00] | JackPo: | oh |
| [03:34:00] | JackPo: | so the kernel drivers won't work |
| [03:34:00] | JackPo: | christ this is causing me some serious headaches |
| [03:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | JackPo: I don't know what kind of support is in the kernel for that card. Or is the analog portion just a bttv card ? |
| [03:36:00] | JackPo: | don't know.. :-\ |
| [03:36:00] | JackPo: | right now I'm trying to use standard v4l drivesr |
| [03:36:00] | JackPo: | and it won't even detect any of the inputs |
| [03:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | That doesn't really suprise me |
| [03:37:00] | rage-: | GreyFoxx, do you have any signal lock problems? |
| [03:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | You could certainly try the pchdtv drivers or the dvb driver for that card |
| [03:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | rage-: Not one |
| [03:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | At least nothingI've seen in the last 2 weeks |
| [03:39:00] | JackPo: | is mythTV and v4l a very problematic combination? |
| [03:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | not really not |
| [03:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [03:39:00] | PatrickDK: | works fine for me |
| [03:39:00] | PatrickDK: | just wish I could make it go at 5fps |
| [03:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | v4l requires more cpu, but other than that it's fine |
| [03:40:00] | JackPo: | damn how come I can't even more inputs |
| [03:40:00] | JackPo: | default input keeps saying :ERROR, No inputs found |
| [03:41:00] | rage-: | GreyFoxx, I can't tune to channels I could with 18.1 now :( |
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| [03:54:00] | HDI: | hello |
| [03:54:00] | HDI: | I have been thinking about joining the mythtv bandwagon, but i have directv |
| [03:55:00] | HDI: | how much support for directv is there in mythtv |
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| [04:05:00] | Randall64: | Anyone have a stereo-profile uATX case? |
| [04:05:00] | FITH: | Hmm... the race is on... how long will a EPIA M10000 take to compile all the crud in the MythTV debs! :) |
| [04:06:00] | Randall64: | big purchases this week: new projector and case for my mythbox |
| [04:06:00] | briand: | hiya Randall |
| [04:07:00] | Randall64: | howdy |
| [04:08:00] | briand: | Asus makes a 'stereo profile' case, but it doesn't look (from the pictures) to have any ISA slots... |
| [04:08:00] | Randall64: | heh |
| [04:09:00] | briand: | yeah, kinda useless, for MythTV anyway |
| [04:09:00] | ** Randall64 looks up asus ** | |
| [04:09:00] | redf0x: | why would you need ISA slots? |
| [04:09:00] | briand: | Asus makes the Pundit, which several are using for Myth |
| [04:09:00] | briand: | redf0x: for the tv card(s) |
| [04:09:00] | Randall64: | I have a uATX athlon64 already, just don't want a cube case |
| [04:09:00] | redf0x: | ISA... you mean PCI? |
| [04:10:00] | briand: | ah, yes.. that is what i meant. |
| [04:10:00] | briand: | it's been a long day. :/ |
| [04:10:00] | Randall64: | The case wouldn't care anyway. |
| [04:10:00] | redf0x: | ah ok, I was concerned ;-) |
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| [04:11:00] | briand: | I'd like to find a nice "semi-thin" horizontal case that would fit in well with my component stereo system |
| [04:11:00] | briand: | ...ideally, it'd have room for more than a single HD, and at least two PCI slots |
| [04:11:00] | Randall64: | height is the only issue afaict |
| [04:12:00] | Randall64: | once it's heigh enough, there's plenty of room for pci slots in a stereo profile |
| [04:12:00] | briand: | true.. was thinking more of a "vcr height" or perhaps a little taller... |
| [04:12:00] | briand: | ..since the VCR can come out of that rack any time now. I never use it |
| [04:12:00] | Randall64: | low-profile is a pain |
| [04:13:00] | briand: | you can get a rack-mount computer, and that'd pretty much fit the bill... |
| [04:13:00] | briand: | but the cost on them is quite prohibitive |
| [04:13:00] | Randall64: | There are htpc cases, but I want to find some people like. |
| [04:14:00] | Randall64: | quiet, attractive, built-in iR, all that jazz |
| [04:14:00] | briand: | yup |
| [04:15:00] | briand: | of course, if IR isn't built-in, it's a no-brainer to wire up the hauppauge card's IR internally |
| [04:15:00] | Randall64: | I have to get it done this week if I can, to make the b-i-l jealous next w/e :) |
| [04:15:00] | briand: | heheh |
| [04:15:00] | briand: | well, as soon as commercial-flagging is done for Law & Order, I'm gonna attempt to install the 0.4.0 ivtv drivers (again) |
| [04:16:00] | Randall64: | I still don't know what I'm going to do for hdtv. |
| [04:16:00] | briand: | PatrickDK mentioned that ivtv may not rmmod because lirc is still loaded. |
| [04:16:00] | briand: | so, once the machine becomes idle again, we'll give it another shot. |
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| [04:17:00] | Randall64: | Does mythdvd upscale nicely? |
| [04:17:00] | briand: | dunno.. never set up mythdvd (yet) here.. i have a DVD-R drive in the Pundit... just haven't gotten around to setting it up |
| [04:17:00] | briand: | so I've done no DVD playing or recording, yet. |
| [04:18:00] | Randall64: | You have an hd display? |
| [04:18:00] | briand: | no.. just a 27" stereo TV (Zenith) |
| [04:18:00] | briand: | sound and video switched thru the Technics home theater receiver |
| [04:18:00] | Randall64: | not much need for it then, probably, but for eliminating hardware |
| [04:19:00] | briand: | not to play, no.. but I do want to archive (via DVD) some of the stuff I've recorded on Myth |
| [04:19:00] | briand: | a *lot* of the stuff I record is record-watch-erase.. but a few things I'd like to keep, long term |
| [04:20:00] | briand: | McCartney @ Red Square, Moody Blues in concert, etc. |
| [04:20:00] | Randall64: | I'm no satisfied with the quality I get from my bttv cards to actually burn anything to dvd. |
| [04:20:00] | Randall64: | not that is |
| [04:20:00] | briand: | I've been pretty impressed with what I've gotten from my PVR-350 |
| [04:21:00] | Randall64: | yeah, the pvr cards are supposed to be nice |
| [04:21:00] | briand: | the true test, of course, will be burning to DVD, and seeing what it looks like in the regular DVD player |
| [04:21:00] | briand: | well, the "plus" of the 350 is that it has hardware MPEG encoding *and* decoding... |
| [04:21:00] | Randall64: | Actually, if you wait a bit, you'll probably see the end of single-function dvd players :) |
| [04:21:00] | briand: | so playing myth recordings take very little CPU. |
| [04:22:00] | Randall64: | yeah, but playback isn't too expensive, so the added cost seems to not be worth it |
| [04:22:00] | briand: | the most taxing thing my Myth box does is commercial-flagging... and, even at that, the CPU hasn't gone over 20%, if that. |
| [04:23:00] | Randall64: | My mythbox gets loaded up doing hq real-time divx |
| [04:23:00] | mchou: | briand: what cpu you got? |
| [04:23:00] | Randall64: | I could do w/o that though. |
| [04:23:00] | briand: | mchou: Pundit-R with a 2.4G Prescott processor |
| [04:23:00] | briand: | so, yeah, there's plenty of horsepower to do MPEG decoding in software... |
| [04:23:00] | mchou: | briand: bah, that's overkill for analog tv :) |
| [04:24:00] | briand: | mchou: true. but the Pundit-R was $99. The processor was $65, and the 500MB Ram was $30 |
| [04:24:00] | briand: | why not?? ;) |
| [04:24:00] | Randall64: | man, that's cheap |
| [04:25:00] | mchou: | briand: not to mention warmer and louder than my vacuum cleaner |
| [04:25:00] | Randall64: | Can you swap out the P.S. for a quiet model? |
| [04:25:00] | mchou: | briand: but not a bad deal though :) |
| [04:25:00] | briand: | add in a $40 Sony DVD-R drive, a $109 350GB HD, and the PVR-350, and I've got a nice Myth box for very little money |
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| [04:25:00] | briand: | actually, not that loud at all.. and certainly quieter than *my* vacuum cleaner! |
| [04:26:00] | mr_bungle: | Hi. I'm thinking about getting a pvr-150. Is that as good as the 250 for myth? |
| [04:26:00] | briand: | the fan(s) go full speed at boot-up.. and are temp controlled thereafter. |
| [04:26:00] | mchou: | mr_bungle: yip |
| [04:26:00] | mchou: | yup* |
| [04:26:00] | mr_bungle: | good deal. |
| [04:26:00] | briand: | it never goes back up to full "wind tunnel" speed, even when simultaneously recording and watching |
| [04:27:00] | mr_bungle: | The ivtv wiki says that the PVR-150 is almost working, but I thought I heard of people having success. |
| [04:27:00] | briand: | the wiki is outdated. |
| [04:27:00] | mchou: | mr_bungle: you in the market for 150? |
| [04:27:00] | briand: | check out www.ivtvdriver.org |
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| [04:27:00] | briand: | 0.4.0 was just released today, and has full support for the 150 and the 500 |
| [04:28:00] | mr_bungle: | Yah. I'll be in the market as soon as one of my paypal echecks clears :) |
| [04:28:00] | mchou: | briand: wow, I didnt see that..... |
| [04:28:00] | briand: | yup. |
| [04:28:00] | briand: | 0.3.9 became 0.4.0 this morning |
| [04:28:00] | briand: | 0.5.0 is the new development branch |
| [04:28:00] | mchou: | msg mr_bungle I have 150's for sale cheap..... |
| [04:28:00] | ** briand hands mchou a few spare slashes '//////' ** | |
| [04:28:00] | mr_bungle: | Thanks for the public private message! |
| [04:28:00] | mchou: | haha briand :) |
| [04:29:00] | mr_bungle: | with the remote mchou? |
| [04:29:00] | mchou: | briand: I thought 3.9 didnt work too well..... |
| [04:29:00] | mchou: | mr_bungle: nope |
| [04:30:00] | mr_bungle: | I'd rather have a remote than to hack my own lirc-serial monstrosity :) |
| [04:30:00] | mchou: | briand: not that there ever really was a 0.3.9..... |
| [04:30:00] | mr_bungle: | but if the price is right and they're new I might think about it. |
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| [04:31:00] | briand: | well, there was a 0.3.8 for a bit.. which became 0.3.9 (at least in name) |
| [04:31:00] | briand: | okay, all the recording and commercial-flagging is done on the mythbox... so let me see if I can get the 0.4.0 ivtv drivers finally loaded... |
| [04:33:00] | mchou: | gah!! |
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| [04:34:00] | mchou: | I guess even # releases of ivtv are for the stable branch..... |
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| [04:40:00] | kahuna_: | wierd. I lost my kb in X. |
| [04:41:00] | mchou: | what the heck is a cx falcon2 mentioned in the ivtv changelog? |
| [04:41:00] | briand: | ah, yesssssssssss! |
| [04:42:00] | briand: | rmmod lirc_i2c allowed rmmod ivtv |
| [04:42:00] | briand: | on with the upgrade |
| [04:42:00] | briand: | :) |
| [04:42:00] | PatrickDK: | heh |
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| [04:44:00] | briand: | ivtv: version 0.4.0 (tagged release) loading |
| [04:44:00] | briand: | and, success. :) |
| [04:44:00] | PatrickDK: | they say radio is fixed in it, but still not on mine |
| [04:45:00] | PatrickDK: | oh well, have to buy two new computers tomorrow |
| [04:45:00] | briand: | there's no interface (yet) in Myth for the radio, is there?? |
| [04:45:00] | PatrickDK: | no |
| [04:45:00] | briand: | i've heard talk of a MythFM, but I've yet to actually see it anywhere... |
| [04:45:00] | PatrickDK: | but you could make it a channel |
| [04:46:00] | PatrickDK: | input the fm freq manually |
| [04:46:00] | PatrickDK: | but either I don't get any fm stations |
| [04:46:00] | PatrickDK: | or it still don't work on my system |
| [04:46:00] | briand: | or go in and hack at the myth menus and make it look pretty... |
| [04:47:00] | briand: | my home theater receiver already has an am/fm radio built-in... |
| [04:47:00] | PatrickDK: | ya, so does mine |
| [04:47:00] | PatrickDK: | but the bedroom doesn't |
| [04:47:00] | briand: | and cd, dvd, myth, ps2, etc hooked thru it |
| [04:48:00] | PatrickDK: | and well, using onscreen freq setting would be nicer than using the remote to type in a freq to a receiver |
| [04:48:00] | briand: | okay, so if I were to now type 'init 5' at my ssh prompt on this machine, I should magically see the Fedora GUI login on the television again, yes? |
| [04:48:00] | PatrickDK: | I dunno, don't know how FC3 does it's stuff |
| [04:48:00] | briand: | or, for that matter... a "scan & store" function to auto-set some memories... |
| [04:49:00] | briand: | well, i can simply `shutdown now` and then go in there and fire it up, again. |
| [04:49:00] | briand: | should auto-load back into myth. |
| [04:49:00] | PatrickDK: | heh |
| [04:49:00] | briand: | the card auto-detected and installed fine under 0.4.0 |
| [04:49:00] | briand: | recorded an mpeg stream test file from it |
| [04:50:00] | briand: | (the tuner was already set to the channel it last recorded from) |
| [04:50:00] | briand: | what dictates the order in which cards are found, by the driver? |
| [04:50:00] | briand: | physical location in the box? |
| [04:51:00] | briand: | (ie: PCI bus address) |
| [04:51:00] | PatrickDK: | pci channel |
| [04:51:00] | PatrickDK: | basically, depends on how the motherboard is layed out |
| [04:51:00] | PatrickDK: | and bios |
| [04:51:00] | briand: | well, won't take much juggling to figure it out, I'd guess... there's only two slots available on the MB |
| [04:51:00] | briand: | one will have the 350, the other the 500 |
| [04:52:00] | briand: | I'd like to keep the 350 loading first... just so that everything that currently thinks of it as tuner 0 can continue thinking of it that way, and add the 500's tuners as tuner 1 and 2 |
| [04:52:00] | PatrickDK: | you could make that easier on yourself |
| [04:53:00] | PatrickDK: | and just symlink it all |
| [04:53:00] | PatrickDK: | instead of using video0 |
| [04:53:00] | PatrickDK: | use v0 |
| [04:53:00] | PatrickDK: | and just match the right video? to v0 |
| [04:53:00] | briand: | true... |
| [04:53:00] | briand: | but since there's only two slots, and two cards to go in them... I've got a 50–50 chance of getting it right the first try |
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| [04:58:00] | m3avrck: | should i enable libmpeg2? on a pIII with a haupagge 350 ... thoughts? |
| [04:58:00] | PatrickDK: | if you want |
| [04:58:00] | PatrickDK: | won't make a difference at all |
| [04:58:00] | m3avrck: | does it do anything? |
| [04:58:00] | PatrickDK: | no |
| [04:58:00] | m3avrck: | ah okk |
| [04:58:00] | PatrickDK: | not if your using 350 for output |
| [04:59:00] | m3avrck: | oh oik |
| [04:59:00] | m3avrck: | thanks |
| [04:59:00] | briand: | and if you're not using the 350 for output.. you wasted your money buying it. might as well have a 250 or a 150 |
| [04:59:00] | Surye: | Yay! |
| [04:59:00] | Surye: | svn copy compiled and working |
| [04:59:00] | Surye: | with ivtv-0.4.0 |
| [04:59:00] | m3avrck: | well right now not using tv-out ... but i plan to soon that is why i bought it because i will be using itin a few months (once i change setups) |
| [04:59:00] | briand: | what's the svn revision of myth nowadays |
| [05:00:00] | Surye: | 7430 |
| [05:00:00] | briand: | well, let me go get my mythbox rebooted and running myth again... |
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| [05:00:00] | m3avrck: | hey how do i setup a remote for a hauppage 350? can't find any simple how-tos |
| [05:01:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, there are howtos on mythtv website |
| [05:01:00] | briand: | plug the included IR receiver into the appropriate socket on the back of the card |
| [05:01:00] | briand: | then check out any of several lirc tutorials |
| [05:01:00] | PatrickDK: | compile lirc with i2c support for hauppage |
| [05:01:00] | Surye: | Will old themes work on mythtv svx |
| [05:01:00] | Surye: | svn |
| [05:01:00] | m3avrck: | briand, PatrickDK : any how tos? i'm very new to this |
| [05:02:00] | PatrickDK: | check the mythtv website |
| [05:02:00] | briand: | on what linux distribution? |
| [05:02:00] | PatrickDK: | or the ivtv wiki |
| [05:02:00] | m3avrck: | knoppmyth |
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| [05:03:00] | bryce_: | drb, I've got 2.6.13 installed on the box now via gentoo :-) |
| [05:03:00] | briand: | i'm sure the page you found knoppmyth on must have a fairly detailed how-to |
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| [05:04:00] | m3avrck: | oh ok i'll take a look thanks |
| [05:05:00] | FITH: | Hmm... okay, it was easier bringing my AMD64 up to date to build myth then it was waiting for the M10000 :) |
| [05:07:00] | PatrickDK: | fith, run it on a 500mhz machine |
| [05:07:00] | mchou: | FITH: that's a good decision :) |
| [05:07:00] | FITH: | Hehe ouch, that'd do it :) |
| [05:08:00] | PatrickDK: | I just compile and come back in like two hours |
| [05:08:00] | mchou: | PatrickDK: is that an Intel CPU? |
| [05:08:00] | mchou: | the 500 Mhz |
| [05:08:00] | PatrickDK: | ya |
| [05:08:00] | mchou: | PatrickDK: BX chipset? |
| [05:08:00] | PatrickDK: | no clue |
| [05:08:00] | PatrickDK: | via I think |
| [05:09:00] | mchou: | if ot's BX chipset I have proc that goes to 1ghz :) |
| [05:09:00] | mchou: | it's* |
| [05:09:00] | FITH: | First time I've tried building the deb's... the canned ones on dijkstra.csh.rit.edu are out of whack with Debian/Unstable |
| [05:09:00] | mchou: | drop-in replacement :) |
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| [05:10:00] | PatrickDK: | I have alot faster procs, but well, that machine didn't need anything faster, and wasn't being used |
| [05:10:00] | PatrickDK: | I have a dual 1.4ghz not being used right now |
| [05:10:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [05:10:00] | PatrickDK: | and ordering two dual 2.2ghz machines tomorrow |
| [05:11:00] | mchou: | so why you compiling on 500Mhz machine? :) |
| [05:11:00] | PatrickDK: | cause it runs myth |
| [05:11:00] | PatrickDK: | the other ones don't |
| [05:11:00] | PatrickDK: | and why should I care how long it takes? |
| [05:11:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [05:11:00] | briand: | hmm.. this is new... |
| [05:11:00] | PatrickDK: | as long as it does finish :) |
| [05:11:00] | drb: | bryce_: I come online 5 minutes after you hail me. ;) *mindmeld* congratz! |
| [05:12:00] | briand: | Kudzu popped up and said it found new hardware — a video capture device. |
| [05:12:00] | mchou: | PatrickDK: cause you dont want your PVR "down" :) |
| [05:12:00] | PatrickDK: | mchou, I don't take it down |
| [05:12:00] | PatrickDK: | so one compile is ok |
| [05:12:00] | briand: | should I choose 'setup' (it's already set up, no?), 'continue', or 'ignore' ? |
| [05:12:00] | PatrickDK: | I might do another one next month |
| [05:12:00] | bryce_: | drb, one nice thing of a 3GHz proc... it compiles FAST. perfect for gentoo ;-) |
| [05:12:00] | PatrickDK: | and a good reson to have multible backends :) |
| [05:13:00] | matt23: | gah! i hate compile errors you can't find in any forum or with google :) |
| [05:13:00] | CyberKnet: | distcc++ |
| [05:13:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: he aint gonaa bother with distcc |
| [05:13:00] | matt23: | has anyone else compiled .18.1 with the -4 diffs applied? |
| [05:13:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, nothing compiles much faster than the dual 3.6ghz, with raid10 15k drves I setup |
| [05:13:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: too lazy to install dependencies and libs :) |
| [05:13:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: in all fairness, I didn't tell him to. I just advocated it. |
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| [05:15:00] | PatrickDK: | I like distcc |
| [05:16:00] | matt23: | hi folks..has anyone else successfully compiled .18.1 with the -4 diffs applied? |
| [05:16:00] | PatrickDK: | but if more than one machine had the same os or a compadible gcc on it, I would be using it |
| [05:17:00] | gate: | what in myth-web could be causing my mythbackend to crash |
| [05:18:00] | gate: | I'm not sure where to even look because nothing is showing up in the logs |
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| [05:20:00] | FITH: | heh, and the AMD64 is catching up at a great rate.... M10k has been going for an hour and a bit, the amd about 12 minutes, and it's about even :) |
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| [05:21:00] | drb: | bryce_: heh. I guess we have to go with a distro we know. :) |
| [05:21:00] | Surye: | Incompatible protocol version (mythweb=18, backend=19) |
| [05:21:00] | Surye: | T_T |
| [05:22:00] | Surye: | Both are svn |
| [05:22:00] | PatrickDK: | of the same download? |
| [05:22:00] | Surye: | Same exact revision, yes |
| [05:22:00] | PatrickDK: | if you svn one, and svn the other, they can be different |
| [05:23:00] | Surye: | Hmm.. |
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| [05:24:00] | bryce_: | drb, yeah... |
| [05:25:00] | bryce_: | I think it'll make it easier to keep up to date since I'll be doing the same thing on several other pcs too |
| [05:25:00] | ** drb nods ** | |
| [05:36:00] | FITH: | Ah, crap... that'll teach me not to read enough... I screwed up the build, and dpkg-buildpackage does a make clean first thing :-/ |
| [05:37:00] | CyberKnet: | hmmm. cacti is showing my cpu fan being unreliable in the last week or so :-/ |
| [05:38:00] | CyberKnet: | FITH |
| [05:38:00] | PatrickDK: | good thing my cpu doesn't have a fan :) |
| [05:38:00] | CyberKnet: | FITH: d'oh! |
| [05:38:00] | CyberKnet: | PatrickDK: Epia Eden? |
| [05:38:00] | PatrickDK: | water |
| [05:38:00] | CyberKnet: | no fan on your radiator? |
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| [05:39:00] | PatrickDK: | well, 4 fans on them |
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| [05:39:00] | CyberKnet: | seems to me you're still dependant on a fan ;) |
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| [05:39:00] | PatrickDK: | all set to 1600rpm |
| [05:39:00] | JackPo: | any HD3000 users here who knows how to tune it to NTSC? |
| [05:39:00] | CyberKnet: | my 1 cpu fan usually on runs at 2000 rpm |
| [05:40:00] | CyberKnet: | whoops. 2500 rpm. my bad. |
| [05:41:00] | CyberKnet: | I love the 120mm fans in my sonata. so very quiet. if I ever got a water cooled setup I think I'd want one that took 120mm fans. |
| [05:41:00] | CyberKnet: | or didn't require them ;P |
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| [05:45:00] | SqWaw: | Anyone around? |
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| [06:01:00] | SqWaw: | heh... no one :( |
| [06:03:00] | fryfrog: | all bots :) |
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| [06:06:00] | tetra: | hi |
| [06:07:00] | tetra: | they should have made this bigger channel #mythtv and the smaller channel #mythtv-devs |
| [06:07:00] | tetra: | i just put in a hauppauge pvr150 and i'm compiling mythtv |
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| [06:11:00] | bryce_: | tetra, heh, yeah |
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| [06:15:00] | briand: | i'm not a bot |
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| [06:22:00] | fryfrog: | i think the problem is that #mythtv existed for dev's first, then they had to make one for users when it got to much |
| [06:22:00] | fryfrog: | thats what happened with #gallery and why we made #gallery-support |
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| [06:57:00] | FITH: | Hmm... that's better... I think I've got 0.18.1 up. ivtv 0.4.0 seems okay (have some hangs playing video, but I couldn't even start them before), and lirc itself is happy.. Just have to convince Myth to see the output that irw is showing :) |
| [07:00:00] | FITH: | Ah scratch that... I must have bungled upgrading lirc, a reboot after the update and it now works :) |
| [07:05:00] | comcipher: | FITH: did you just get lirc working on a debian system? |
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| [07:10:00] | drb: | comcipher: I've got lirc working on debian. |
| [07:11:00] | comcipher: | Oh man, i've been having a bitch of a time getting it working |
| [07:11:00] | Agrajag-: | i have it working fine on debian too |
| [07:11:00] | drb: | First time I tried, I blew a day, and just gave up. |
| [07:11:00] | Cardoe: | so can a PVR-150 and PVR-250 use the same firmware file? |
| [07:11:00] | drb: | this time, I installed linux-headers-VERSION package, and the lirc-modules-source and followed the instructions given |
| [07:11:00] | comcipher: | I know the reciever works, it's a homebrew from zapway.de and it works on my main windows box w/ WinLIRC |
| [07:12:00] | drb: | cool. Yeah, the one I'm using i built. |
| [07:12:00] | drb: | Cardoe: sounds like it. http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware |
| [07:12:00] | comcipher: | So where should I start to get this damn thing working? |
| [07:12:00] | Cardoe: | drb: yeah that's what I was just reading |
| [07:13:00] | drb: | comcipher: are you using a debian kernel (from a linux-image-VERSION package)? |
| [07:13:00] | comcipher: | drb: Yes, it's a KnoppMyth system based on debian |
| [07:14:00] | drb: | cool. |
| [07:14:00] | drb: | with knoppmyth, it's roughly the same. if you run "lirc-reconfigure.sh", it'll unpack the knoppmyth kernel and the module source and try to build lirc |
| [07:14:00] | drb: | or... lirc-reconfig.sh ? something like that. |
| [07:14:00] | comcipher: | I tried that once but it didn't do anything |
| [07:15:00] | drb: | do a "cat `which lirc-reconnfig.sh`" and you'll see what it's up to. |
| [07:15:00] | drb: | basically, you need: |
| [07:15:00] | drb: | 1) an unpacked kernel tree that built your running kernel |
| [07:15:00] | drb: | 2) the lirc modules unpacked |
| [07:15:00] | drb: | 3) the debian magic build commandline to generate the .deb files |
| [07:15:00] | drb: | and that script does all that |
| [07:17:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: still around? |
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| [07:18:00] | comcipher: | drb: so should I just run the lirc-reconfig.sh script? |
| [07:18:00] | comcipher: | actually , right when I run it it gives me this: |
| [07:18:00] | comcipher: | "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: lirc is broken or not fully installed" |
| [07:18:00] | comcipher: | then it goes into the script |
| [07:19:00] | drb: | do the source unpack commands. the script is skipping them because a directory was built, but the unpack was likely aborted |
| [07:20:00] | drb: | run the two tar commands from /usr/src and then try it again |
| [07:20:00] | comcipher: | ok, give me a second |
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| [07:24:00] | comcipher: | ok, i've ran both of the tar commands |
| [07:24:00] | comcipher: | btw, thank you so much for helping me, this has been driving me nuts forever |
| [07:25:00] | drb: | heh, sure. I fought with this on sunday both with knoppmyth and then regular debian unstable. :) |
| [07:25:00] | drb: | I just hope it works! :) |
| [07:25:00] | comcipher: | so what do I do after running the two tar commands |
| [07:26:00] | drb: | try the "dokg-reconfigure" stuff from the end of that script now |
| [07:27:00] | drb: | one of the screens will give you a list of things to run in /usr/src including a "debian/rules" command line. |
| [07:28:00] | comcipher: | give me this: "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: lirc is broken or not fully installed" |
| [07:28:00] | drb: | hmpf |
| [07:28:00] | comcipher: | is there a way I can simply completly remove LIRC and rebuild the whole thing from scratch? |
| [07:28:00] | drb: | does "apt-get -f install" do anything useful? |
| [07:29:00] | comcipher: | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| [07:29:00] | comcipher: | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| [07:29:00] | comcipher: | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 547 not upgraded. |
| [07:29:00] | drb: | could do dpkg -P lirc-module-source then apt-get install lirc-module-source |
| [07:30:00] | comcipher: | dpkg – warning: ignoring request to remove lirc-module-source which isn't installed. |
| [07:30:00] | drb: | hm, there's some package for it. I might not be remembering the name of it right. |
| [07:30:00] | Cardoe: | any gentoo users? |
| [07:30:00] | drb: | try apt-cache search lirc | grep source |
| [07:31:00] | comcipher: | lirc-modules-source – Linux Infra-red Remote Control support (kernel modules) |
| [07:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Cardoe? |
| [07:31:00] | drb: | ah! I missed an "s". dpkg -P lirc-modules-source apt-get install lirc-modules-source |
| [07:31:00] | Cardoe: | Krazylegz: wanna test a ivtv 0.4.0 ebuild? |
| [07:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh, no. :-) |
| [07:31:00] | Krazylegz: | I appreciate the offer. |
| [07:32:00] | Krazylegz: | I actually don't run Gentoo on my Mythbox. |
| [07:32:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [07:33:00] | drb: | comcipher: I gotta run. make sure you unpack the tar.gz again for lirc in /usr/src (it'll end up in /usr/src/modules) follow the debian/rules commandline, and you can install the resulting deb package. good luck! |
| [07:33:00] | comcipher: | drb: This is the output this gave me |
| [07:33:00] | comcipher: | Err http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main lirc-modules-source 0.7.1pre2–6.1 |
| [07:33:00] | comcipher: | 404 Not Found [IP: 128.101.80.133 80] |
| [07:33:00] | comcipher: | Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/l . . . 6.1_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 128.101.80.133 80] |
| [07:33:00] | comcipher: | E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? |
| [07:33:00] | comcipher: | ok, thanks for the help |
| [07:34:00] | Agrajag-: | have you done an apt-get update ? |
| [07:34:00] | comcipher: | Agrajag-: Running it now.... |
| [07:37:00] | FITH: | comcipher: yeah, I got lirc going... I used the 0.7.2 tarball off the lirc.sf.net site instead of the debian debs |
| [07:37:00] | FITH: | mostly because that was how I did it the first time... (i.e. no real technical reason for that choice) |
| [07:38:00] | comcipher: | ok, i'm running "apt-get install lirc-modules-source" now |
| [07:39:00] | FITH: | ah, so you're going to make-kpkg a kernel? That *should* work |
| [07:40:00] | comcipher: | I really have no idea. I'm a bit of a linux n00b who just want's to get lirc working correctly with a homebrew serial reciever |
| [07:40:00] | comcipher: | somebody suggested I use the lirc-reconfigure.sh script that comes w/ knoppmyth |
| [07:44:00] | comcipher: | the script seemd to run okay.... i'm going to try rebooting the box now and seeing what happens |
| [07:47:00] | comcipher: | if this doesn't work i'm just gonna have to call it a night as iv'e got class in the morning. Are you guys gonna be on at all tommorw? |
| [07:48:00] | Krazylegz: | Someone will be here. :-) |
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| [07:50:00] | comcipher: | Well, thanks for the help so far... maybe I might actually get this damn thing working by the end of the week ;) |
| [07:50:00] | comcipher: | see you gentelmen later |
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| [08:36:00] | FITH: | Crud. NOW I find that there's a message on the ivtv list about hangs with PVR350's during playback unless you're using mythtv > 0.18.1..... AGRH. |
| [08:37:00] | Krazylegz: | Huh? |
| [08:37:00] | Krazylegz: | Linky? |
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| [08:38:00] | fryfrog: | Cardoe: I am paying attention now, I dunno if you are though :) |
| [08:38:00] | fryfrog: | Anyone around that would like a PVR 250 for ~$65 and/or Air2pc for ~$165? |
| [08:39:00] | ** Krazylegz wishes fryfrog wouldn't dangle these things in front of him ** | |
| [08:40:00] | fryfrog: | i've got 3 of the PVR 250s! |
| [08:40:00] | fryfrog: | one mce and two retails :) |
| [08:40:00] | Krazylegz: | Does that come with a remote? |
| [08:40:00] | fryfrog: | i know where one is for sure |
| [08:40:00] | fryfrog: | for the retail of course |
| [08:40:00] | FITH: | working on a link... It's on the ivtv-devel mailing list dated Oct 1. with the title "Random System Hang" |
| [08:40:00] | fryfrog: | i'd need to dig out the second one :) |
| [08:41:00] | fryfrog: | wow, an ivtv 0.4?? |
| [08:41:00] | FITH: | yeah... I'm not 100% happy with it yet (i.e. see the above stuff about hangs :) |
| [08:42:00] | fryfrog: | oh, about 0.4? |
| [08:43:00] | FITH: | Yeah... I jumped from a 0.2.0-rc2k release about a year back to 0.4.0 and now I'm getting hangs during playback on a PVR350 |
| [08:43:00] | FITH: | I'm going to try the firmware dance before I give up on 0.4.0 tho |
| [08:44:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm using 0.2.0-rc3j. |
| [08:45:00] | fryfrog: | what does dmesg say about the firmware for 0.4? |
| [08:45:00] | fryfrog: | i've been using 0.3.8 for a few months |
| [08:45:00] | fryfrog: | i have "bleeding edge" itis :/ |
| [08:45:00] | Krazylegz: | fryfrog: I see. You choose certain death, then. :-) |
| [08:45:00] | fryfrog: | yes, certain death :) |
| [08:45:00] | fryfrog: | its why i'm giving up on the air2pc card i think |
| [08:46:00] | fryfrog: | though i *should* probably get an antenna and try ATSC OTA |
| [08:46:00] | fryfrog: | first |
| [08:46:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh. Chutt mentioned last night that 0.4.0 is NOT stable. |
| [08:47:00] | Krazylegz: | CK likes to mark unstables as stable, or something. |
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| [08:47:00] | FITH: | fryfrog: http://pastebin.ca/25096 |
| [08:47:00] | FITH: | Krazylegz: Crap. What's a good level to fall back too? |
| [08:47:00] | FITH: | (Has there ever been a stable ivtv?!? :) |
| [08:48:00] | Krazylegz: | I think Chutt recommended 0.3.9. You may want to check the irc-log, though. |
| [08:48:00] | Krazylegz: | It was either last night or friday night. |
| [08:48:00] | Krazylegz: | Whoa, there's radio support now? |
| [08:48:00] | fryfrog: | i've no experience with a 350 :( |
| [08:49:00] | fryfrog: | i tried 0.3.9, but when i did it was a continuiously updated snapshot of svn |
| [08:49:00] | Krazylegz: | I was just whining about that (to myself) today. |
| [08:49:00] | fryfrog: | it was unstable for me, 0.3.8 was awsome |
| [08:49:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, I can't get radio support working |
| [08:49:00] | fryfrog: | i'll see how 0.4 is |
| [08:49:00] | rordog: | does anyone have tips or URLs on how to debug/fix getting static from a pvr500 using knoppmyth |
| [08:50:00] | Krazylegz: | What software do we have to use the radio with? |
| [08:51:00] | PatrickDK: | ivtv-radio :) |
| [08:51:00] | fryfrog: | http://pastebin.ca/25097 |
| [08:51:00] | fryfrog: | that's my 0.4.0 ivtv with 2x pvr 250s |
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| [08:52:00] | fryfrog: | i didn't see your ivtv module complain about the firmware version so you probably have the right one, no? |
| [08:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Gah, I want a myth-radio. |
| [08:52:00] | bryce_: | hrm, emerge ivtv is broken |
| [08:52:00] | FITH: | fryfrog: Are you running 0.18.1 or something newer? |
| [08:52:00] | fryfrog: | svn |
| [08:52:00] | FITH: | Hmm. |
| [08:52:00] | fryfrog: | from last night |
| [08:52:00] | FITH: | Heh :) |
| [08:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe I need a second Mythbox for testing things. I get nervous at the thought of my Mythbox not working for a few days. |
| [08:53:00] | FITH: | Hmm... maybe I'll mess with ivtv first and then go to svn-myth if I can't get this stable |
| [08:53:00] | FITH: | Krazylegz: That's what I'm thinking too :-/ |
| [08:54:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: ivtv 0.4.0 is in Portage |
| [08:54:00] | fryfrog: | Krazylegz: easy fix, run db backups |
| [08:54:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: been in there long enough that it should come over an emerge --sync for ya. |
| [08:54:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: test it out? |
| [08:54:00] | fryfrog: | Cardoe: super, i just modified my ebuild in /usr/local/portage :) |
| [08:54:00] | fryfrog: | sure |
| [08:54:00] | Cardoe: | modified your ebuild for ivtv? |
| [08:54:00] | mchou: | Chutt recommends 3.8 |
| [08:54:00] | fryfrog: | i have my own ebuild i was using for 0.3.8 |
| [08:54:00] | fryfrog: | just bumped it to work with 0.4.0 |
| [08:54:00] | mchou: | not 3.9..... |
| [08:55:00] | Krazylegz: | fryfrog: It's not the DB I'm worried about, it's the software configs. |
| [08:55:00] | fryfrog: | 3.9 sucked for me too :) |
| [08:55:00] | Cardoe: | mchou: there was no 0.3.9 |
| [08:55:00] | fryfrog: | but it was "head svn" |
| [08:55:00] | Cardoe: | mchou: it was Chris Kennedy being a douche bag |
| [08:55:00] | fryfrog: | yes, there was on one of the 3 sites |
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| [08:55:00] | Cardoe: | mchou: and that's what Chutt didn't like |
| [08:55:00] | fryfrog: | Krazylegz: the software config is *in* the db :) |
| [08:55:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: yes. Chris Kennedy being a douche bag |
| [08:55:00] | fryfrog: | ah, yes :) |
| [08:55:00] | Krazylegz: | fryfrog: I mean ivtv. |
| [08:55:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: so giving up on air2pc QAM? |
| [08:56:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: or ATSC? |
| [08:56:00] | fryfrog: | mchou: yeah, i think on tuesday when i get a whole house fan i may hunt for an antenna |
| [08:56:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [08:56:00] | fryfrog: | i've been told that UHF/VHF aren't very strongly effected by trees |
| [08:56:00] | mchou: | bah. |
| [08:56:00] | fryfrog: | if it works, i'll probably have directv come out and tell me that they'd have to cut down half my trees for sat service :) |
| [08:56:00] | Chutt: | 4.0 good, 3.9 bad |
| [08:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Woo hoo!! |
| [08:57:00] | fryfrog: | i'm glad CK went to a "normal" naming system for the most part |
| [08:57:00] | Chutt: | it's not ck |
| [08:57:00] | fryfrog: | ck isn't doing the dev anymore? |
| [08:57:00] | mchou: | hans and franz :) |
| [08:58:00] | fryfrog: | will PUMP YOU UP! |
| [08:58:00] | mchou: | goona pump YOU up! |
| [08:58:00] | fryfrog: | ahha |
| [08:58:00] | Chutt: | cardoe, hey, don't bother with that db patch, if you had ever planned on doing it :p |
| [08:58:00] | Chutt: | cardoe, i'm going to go a different route, and make it obsolete. |
| [08:58:00] | Krazylegz: | Whoa. My CS Theory professor did that for pumping lemma. |
| [08:58:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: k. |
| [08:59:00] | Cardoe: | I was hacking at things. |
| [08:59:00] | Cardoe: | I keep getting distracted |
| [08:59:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [08:59:00] | Chutt: | suuure ya were :p |
| [08:59:00] | Cardoe: | and end up with half ass changes. |
| [08:59:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: pumping lemma? WTH does that mean? |
| [08:59:00] | Chutt: | i'm going to write a little server app and have it talk to a sqlite db |
| [08:59:00] | mchou: | ohoh..... |
| [08:59:00] | Chutt: | slap some zeroconf on it, restrict it to myth stuff only |
| [08:59:00] | fryfrog: | unless lemma is a hot chick, i think i'll pass on knowing |
| [09:00:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: cool |
| [09:00:00] | mchou: | Chutt: gasp! you're adding more dependencies?? :) |
| [09:00:00] | Chutt: | no, getting rid of mysql |
| [09:00:00] | Chutt: | sqlite's small enough to just include |
| [09:00:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: gonna use the fd.o version or the Apple version? |
| [09:01:00] | Chutt: | cardoe, whatever's in mfd already |
| [09:01:00] | Fosten: | so does ivtv 0.4 replace both 0.2.x and 0.3.x? |
| [09:01:00] | fryfrog: | huh? |
| [09:01:00] | Chutt: | i think that's apple version based |
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| [09:01:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [09:01:00] | fryfrog: | sqlite for myth? |
| [09:02:00] | ** Cardoe is trying to make his PVR-150 work on PPC ** | |
| [09:02:00] | Krazylegz: | mchou: http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mairson/poems/node1.html |
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| [09:02:00] | Krazylegz: | mchou: Less poetic: http://www.cs.may.ie/~jpower/Courses/parsing/node41.html |
| [09:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Really though, you guys should know this. :-) |
| [09:03:00] | mchou: | wow, learn something new every day...... |
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| [09:04:00] | Krazylegz: | That course was kind of dry. I liked Programming Language Concepts better. |
| [09:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Anyway, time for bed. |
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| [09:07:00] | Fosten: | so does ivtv 0.4 replace both 0.2.x and 0.3.x? |
| [09:07:00] | Chutt: | yes. |
| [09:08:00] | mchou: | so is there even an unstable ivtv branch any more, or that's just svn? |
| [09:08:00] | Chutt: | 0.5.0 |
| [09:09:00] | Chutt: | all this information is on the website. |
| [09:09:00] | mchou: | ok. |
| [09:09:00] | FITH: | Hmm, so I'm starting from the right place? ivtv 0.4.0 + MythTV 0.18.1 + PVR-350 and the recomended firmware from http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Firmware ? |
| [09:10:00] | FITH: | Or should I listen to the ivtv mailing list where they mention going to newer then 0.18.1 ? |
| [09:10:00] | ** FITH is so confused :) ** | |
| [09:10:00] | fryfrog: | FITH: the SVN 0.18.2 branch may be worth a shot |
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| [09:10:00] | fryfrog: | or you could go balls out and just do the svn branch |
| [09:10:00] | fryfrog: | historically, i've actually found the cvs/svn branches of myth to be more stable than the releases for the most part |
| [09:10:00] | FITH: | Hmm, I'll probably try rolling slowly ahead... I've never had this many hangs before |
| [09:10:00] | fryfrog: | though i think this is starting to change with 0.18.1+ |
| [09:10:00] | FITH: | Cool! |
| [09:11:00] | fryfrog: | i mean, it started to change with versions over 0.18 |
| [09:11:00] | fryfrog: | what distro? |
| [09:12:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: check out this page: http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/siting.html |
| [09:12:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: search for the word "tree" |
| [09:12:00] | fryfrog: | okay, thanks |
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| [09:13:00] | fryfrog: | "Weeds, shrubs, and trees are mostly transparent to VHF" |
| [09:14:00] | pembo13: | what goes in /etc/sysconfig/lirc ? |
| [09:14:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: lol, ATSC is mostly UHF |
| [09:15:00] | fryfrog: | If a tree loses its leaves in the fall, reception behind it will improve dramatically. Many people get a TV for Christmas, and erect an antenna for it in January, and then wonder why it quit working in May. It.s the trees. |
| [09:15:00] | fryfrog: | oh :/ |
| [09:15:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: exactly :) |
| [09:16:00] | FITH: | I'm running debian/unstable |
| [09:16:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: "Trees block 100% of satellite signals." |
| [09:17:00] | FITH: | Hmm, with my old firmware that worked for the last year, my new setup stops playing after a few mins, and then won't play video again... a slight improvement from killing the machine but... yeah. Maybe it's time to wiggle the MythTV part of this :) |
| [09:18:00] | Fosten: | so if i have a pvr-500, should i upgrade to ivtv 0.4 or svn ivtv 0.5? |
| [09:18:00] | FITH: | Enough of this and I'll go back to the insanity that was making the unichrome graphics on the M10000 work :) |
| [09:18:00] | mchou: | FITH: huh??? |
| [09:19:00] | ridd1er: | hey all. |
| [09:19:00] | ridd1er: | anyone know much about menu making for mythtv? |
| [09:19:00] | ridd1er: | i have made a menu for x10 integration but i want to add more options... |
| [09:20:00] | ridd1er: | however i think i might need tot use some of the qt options in the menu and have no clue how to do it |
| [09:20:00] | FITH: | Ah, a clue... it oopses the kernel inside of ivtv_v4l2_dec_poll+0x1b0/0x240 |
| [09:21:00] | fryfrog: | dang, antennas are crazy! |
| [09:21:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: no, you mean E&M is crazy :) |
| [09:23:00] | pembo13: | how do I know what device is created for my tv card for use with a remote? |
| [09:24:00] | fryfrog: | oh, yes that is quite true |
| [09:24:00] | fryfrog: | how about antenna placement is CraZy! |
| [09:25:00] | fryfrog: | i am lucky though, most of my towers are 10–20 miles away |
| [09:25:00] | fryfrog: | actually, almost all of em |
| [09:25:00] | fryfrog: | unless i want shit from like, athens ga |
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| [09:27:00] | FITH: | fine... old firmware didn't work... new firmware doesn't work... Let's see if I can make 0.18.2-svn compile with the same "debian/rules" & packaging stuff. |
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| [09:33:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: any chance we can declare an official 0.18.2 from the branch? |
| [09:35:00] | Chutt: | just wait for the next release |
| [09:35:00] | Chutt: | be out sooner than later |
| [09:35:00] | fryfrog: | isn't that what he meant? |
| [09:35:00] | Chutt: | no, that's not anything like what he meant :p |
| [09:36:00] | Chutt: | just 3 things left to do: get dvb stabilized a bit more, redo live-tv, cut down on the bug list |
| [09:36:00] | mchou: | haha :) |
| [09:36:00] | Cardoe: | I was talking about 0.18.2 |
| [09:36:00] | Cardoe: | and Chutt is talking about 0.19 |
| [09:37:00] | fryfrog: | ah, i see |
| [09:37:00] | mchou: | story of every programmer :) |
| [09:37:00] | mchou: | "cut down on the bug list" |
| [09:37:00] | fryfrog: | except windows |
| [09:37:00] | fryfrog: | then its "turn bugs into features!" |
| [09:38:00] | mchou: | and their PM says "we need more features" |
| [09:38:00] | fryfrog: | ahha |
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| [09:45:00] | Cardoe: | wtf does mfd do? |
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| [09:47:00] | fryfrog: | isn't that the transcode deamon? |
| [09:47:00] | fryfrog: | for the dvd ripper? |
| [09:48:00] | PatrickDK: | ya |
| [09:54:00] | Cardoe: | no |
| [09:54:00] | Cardoe: | mtd is the transcode daemon |
| [09:54:00] | Cardoe: | mfd is MythTV Frontend Daemon |
| [09:55:00] | PatrickDK: | there is no frontend daemon |
| [09:55:00] | PatrickDK: | there is a mythtv frontend |
| [09:55:00] | PatrickDK: | but no daemon |
| [09:55:00] | Cardoe: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mfd/README |
| [09:55:00] | PatrickDK: | that would defeat the point of a user interface |
| [09:55:00] | Cardoe: | wtf does that say |
| [09:57:00] | PatrickDK: | ah heh |
| [09:57:00] | PatrickDK: | must be something new |
| [09:58:00] | fryfrog: | good question, wtf is it? |
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| [10:00:00] | PatrickDK: | sounds like for remote frontends |
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| [10:00:00] | PatrickDK: | or well, they are attempting to replace X with it or something |
| [10:01:00] | PatrickDK: | it just passes stuff from a remote compuer into a frontend |
| [10:01:00] | Cardoe: | it's been in CVS/SVN for a while. |
| [10:01:00] | PatrickDK: | not sure if the picture is passed around or not |
| [10:01:00] | Cardoe: | It talks a lot about metadata |
| [10:01:00] | Cardoe: | not about replacing X |
| [10:01:00] | Cardoe: | and that would be the dumbest thing ever |
| [10:01:00] | kormoc|afk: | It's a layer so you could say, have all the frontends in the house playing the same thing at once |
| [10:02:00] | PatrickDK: | well, X was made to run remotely over a network |
| [10:02:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc|afk: ah |
| [10:02:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc|afk: btw... ivtv 0.4.0 ebuild in the tree |
| [10:02:00] | kormoc|afk: | honestly, I'm not too clear on everything it can do, but it's gonna handle a bit of the work the current frontend does. |
| [10:02:00] | kormoc|afk: | ooh! I shall have to try it then |
| [10:03:00] | kormoc|afk: | but bed time for myself :) |
| [10:04:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc|afk: are they going to start including it in the releases? |
| [10:04:00] | kormoc|afk: | Cardoe, my understanding is they are indeed |
| [10:04:00] | kormoc|afk: | Cardoe, xris knows a bit more about it, if you want to ask him tomorrow |
| [10:06:00] | Cardoe: | k |
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| [10:11:00] | FITH: | Crud. This is starting to look more like hardware... now I'm hanging the machine starting up the backend |
| [10:12:00] | FITH: | nothing in the logs |
| [10:16:00] | FITH: | (this is with release-0-18-fixes out of SVN an hour ago) |
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| [11:07:00] | FITH: | Hmm... it might just be NFS stupidity in 2.6.13.3 |
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| [11:19:00] | FITH: | Doh.. and/or the fact that some idiot (me) compiled the code on a AMD64 without passing in a --cpu=c3–2 to the configure |
| [11:20:00] | FITH: | If nothing else I hope I'm being a (bad?) example to others and not just running my mouth (fingers) here :) |
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| [11:27:00] | FITH: | Nope... even compiled with --cpu=c3–2 I'm getting illegal instructions when I run the backend |
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| [11:31:00] | fryfrog: | cross compiling is a little harder than that |
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| [11:31:00] | fryfrog: | you need to make sure your gcc can actually support doing it i'm pretty sure |
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| [11:32:00] | fryfrog: | i tried using distcc, but it hates working with x86 and x86_64 :( |
| [11:32:00] | FITH: | Doh. So I should just let stuff compile on the same CPU sub-arch that it's going to run on? I was compiling on a 32-bit kernel AMD64 |
| [11:32:00] | FITH: | (for a VIA M10000) |
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| [11:32:00] | fryfrog: | i think it'd be easier at least |
| [11:32:00] | fryfrog: | it *has* to be possible, but i was to lazy to dig much deeper to find out :) |
| [11:33:00] | FITH: | Hehe, yeah, I'm all for "whatever works" right now. I'm nearing 15 hours with my box offline :-/. |
| [11:35:00] | FITH: | but I'm too stuborn to fail back to 0.16 |
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| [11:42:00] | sandos: | FITH = fibre in the home? ;) |
| [11:45:00] | fryfrog: | ahah |
| [11:46:00] | FITH: | Heh, it's from war game (RTCW: Enemy Territory) "Fire in the hole!!" |
| [11:46:00] | FITH: | I **WISH** it was fibre in the home! |
| [11:47:00] | FITH: | well... TO the home... I can deal with "only" gigabit inside the house :) |
| [11:48:00] | fryfrog: | shit, i think i'd be happy with fiber to our neighborhood :) |
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| [11:55:00] | FITH: | Yay... internal compiler errors... fine... be that way... I'm taking my ball and going home, err, reverting back to 0.16 until I can fix all this |
| [11:58:00] | FITH: | maybe I'll just pick up another EPIA board, and build a test host with a pvr-250 in it... (and get myself a second tuner when it all works) |
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| [12:16:00] | rage-: | I"d be happy with 56k. |
| [12:17:00] | rage-: | I'm on 26.4k dialup -.- |
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| [13:58:00] | lulu: | hello |
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| [14:16:00] | fryfrog: | ohio! |
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| [14:27:00] | Randall64: | not anymore |
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| [14:30:00] | PaulWay: | Greeting! |
| [14:30:00] | fryfrog: | Response! |
| [14:31:00] | PaulWay: | Question about state of arbitrary football team. |
| [14:31:00] | fryfrog: | Humourous joke about your penis size and an elephant in an elevator! |
| [14:32:00] | PaulWay: | Comparison of fryfrog's mother to a household implement :-) |
| [14:32:00] | PaulWay: | Anyone got any strong feelings about LVM vs 'software raid' (mdadm)? |
| [14:33:00] | fryfrog: | there is no "versus" in comparing them |
| [14:33:00] | fryfrog: | one is not the other, the other is not the one |
| [14:33:00] | fryfrog: | LVM is a way of intelligently spanning data accross dis-seperate volumes |
| [14:34:00] | fryfrog: | raid is a way of providing redundancy on similar drives |
| [14:34:00] | PaulWay: | Well, I went and combined my 250GB and 160GB disks using lvm today, and then I remembered I'd used md to do the raid on my work machine. |
| [14:34:00] | fryfrog: | you can run LVM on top of raid, lvm alone or raid alone |
| [14:35:00] | fryfrog: | there'd be no real way of combining a 250G and 160G drive w/o losing about 100G of "raided" space on the big one |
| [14:35:00] | PaulWay: | And just wanted to make sure that I hadn't done one of those forehead-slap-inducing things. |
| [14:35:00] | PaulWay: | Mmmm, that's sort of what I thought. |
| [14:35:00] | fryfrog: | just watch closely for a drive failure |
| [14:35:00] | fryfrog: | or a pending drive failure |
| [14:35:00] | fryfrog: | so you don't lose your data |
| [14:35:00] | PaulWay: | Now, what I want to check is: should I have enabled striping? |
| [14:35:00] | PaulWay: | Yeah, it's that backup thing that I'm worried about. |
| [14:36:00] | fryfrog: | striping would be a bad idea, it would only garentee you'd lose everything if *one* of the two drives failed |
| [14:36:00] | fryfrog: | at least w/ normal lvm, there is a chance you'll only lose what was on the one drive |
| [14:37:00] | PaulWay: | Yeah, that's the theory. |
| [14:38:00] | PaulWay: | I keep on thinking about how to make a RAID system that can take arbitrary disks and have arbitrary levels of data recovery. |
| [14:38:00] | PaulWay: | But the problem is that you generally get either an entire disk failing, or an entire sector, rather than the bit errors that error correcting codes are supposed to protect against. |
| [14:39:00] | fryfrog: | huh? |
| [14:40:00] | PaulWay: | Well, things like CDs have an error correcting code, so that you read 15 bits and that gives you 8 actual 'corrected' bits; but you can stand up to 7 of those bits (any 7) being bad before you don't get what was originally written. |
| [14:41:00] | PaulWay: | But if the whole sector fails, then no amount of bits nearby is going to save you from that. |
| [14:41:00] | PaulWay: | You want to distribute your backups across the disk, so that one sector is backed up multiple times. |
| [14:42:00] | PaulWay: | You could do it by using the free space on the disk – each disk block 'in use' would be redundantly backed up somewhere else, as space allowed. |
| [14:42:00] | PaulWay: | And the kernel process would make sure that those copies were on other disks, for example. |
| [14:43:00] | PaulWay: | Back to striping, btw, the nice thing about striping is that you get a performance boost... |
| [14:45:00] | PaulWay: | Anyway, how's things with you? |
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| [15:13:00] | Lightnin: | morning |
| [15:22:00] | fryfrog: | PaulWay: raid 5 uses a check some, each chunk has X+1 parts, if any one part "fails" the whole thing can still be re-constructed |
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| [15:35:00] | mrec: | has anyone of you guys got a usb tv tuner/webcam which is not supported in linux? |
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| [15:40:00] | fryfrog: | probably a lot of people :) |
| [15:40:00] | fryfrog: | maybe not in here :/ |
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| [15:58:00] | sphing: | where do the transcoded files end up? |
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| [16:03:00] | mrec: | fryfrog: just want to try something with an unsupported device.. I got my device work by analyzing a windows usb logfile |
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| [16:19:00] | Ryushin: | Well, they installed a transparent proxy at the office today. I anticipated this a long time ago and set up a proxy at my house running on port 80. But they aren't allowing port 80 connects, so I changed it to run on port 443. No spying on me. :) |
| [16:20:00] | sphing: | lol |
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| [16:22:00] | Lightnin: | Ryushin, work blocked all ports here except for the 2 ports we use to connect to customer sites... my machine at the house looks like a customer box to the firewall :P |
| [16:23:00] | Ryushin: | That's the way to do it. |
| [16:23:00] | Lightnin: | although every so often irc goes thru without an issue from work. must be IS using irc at those times |
| [16:23:00] | Ryushin: | I proxy my IRC connection back to my house as well. |
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| [16:27:00] | Ryushin: | I also tunnel the proxy down a ssh connection so my connection is fully encrypted. |
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| [16:28:00] | Lightnin: | guess work was done with irc, oh well |
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| [16:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Fsck I hate users |
| [16:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | monitor your damn disk space cause I'm not gonna do it for you! |
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| [16:42:00] | sphing: | lol how much space? |
| [16:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | irrelevant. If you have critical production server it's up to you to ensure that you have sufficient space, including on /var. grrr |
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| [16:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | People who don't have a monitoring system, even manual for production machines are morons who should not be running an ISP |
| [16:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | And yet, they are everywhere |
| [16:46:00] | sphing: | where are the transcoded files stored? |
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| [16:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | what are you using to transcode them ? |
| [16:47:00] | sphing: | mythtranscode |
| [16:47:00] | sphing: | to mpeg4 |
| [16:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I mean, are you triggering it from within mythtv or using something like nuv export (which also launches mythtranscode) |
| [16:48:00] | sphing: | o withing myth... sorry |
| [16:48:00] | sphing: | *within |
| [16:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | then they are stored whereever your recordings are. They replace the recording |
| [16:50:00] | fryfrog: | OT: anyone like wallpapers? |
| [16:52:00] | sphing: | like real wallpapers or like desktop wallpapers |
| [16:52:00] | fryfrog: | sorry, desktop |
| [16:52:00] | fryfrog: | just trying to think of something pretty, and maybe themed for about 4 pcs |
| [16:52:00] | sphing: | could there have been more likes in that sentence... |
| [16:52:00] | fryfrog: | only if you were a blond chick from california, like totally@! |
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| [17:07:00] | sphing: | is there a mytharchive? |
| [17:07:00] | sphing: | burns automatically to dvd then when you want to play it... 'Insert Disc 5' |
| [17:09:00] | Krazylegz: | No, but that's not a terrible idea maybe. |
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| [17:19:00] | travolta: | sphing, what are you wanting to do with the transcoded files? |
| [17:19:00] | Lightnin: | need a place to do recommendations for things like sphing's |
| [17:19:00] | travolta: | %FILE% – filename of recording |
| [17:19:00] | travolta: | %DIR% – Myth Recording directory where file is located |
| [17:19:00] | travolta: | %HOSTNAME% – hostname of backed where recording was made |
| [17:19:00] | travolta: | use those if you are making a user job |
| [17:20:00] | sphing: | im just at 94% of my drive |
| [17:20:00] | sphing: | so i gotta start transcoding and offloading to dvd's |
| [17:20:00] | simcop2387: | mplayer needs to be able to do mythtv's time stretch |
| [17:20:00] | simcop2387: | sphing: for me i usually let them auto expire, but for dvd's its just an mplex away |
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| [17:22:00] | sphing: | im burning to dvd the mpeg4 files |
| [17:22:00] | sphing: | i just want a place to store them... not make an actual dvd authored disc |
| [17:22:00] | Lightnin: | i like sphing's idea though of still having data in the database of where the file was offloaded to (another drive, dvd, etc). At that point you just need a data dvd (compared to reencoding for dvd) |
| [17:23:00] | sphing: | ... and so was born mytharchive |
| [17:23:00] | simcop2387: | ah |
| [17:23:00] | simcop2387: | sphing: i've been working on a mythdvdburn type thing, it uses svg themes to make the menus |
| [17:24:00] | Lightnin: | offloading to a dvd would need a "dvd flag" compared to an actual device id as you could insert a new dvd drive that has to be checked for the media. obviously the delay in the check would be acceptable as it was offloaded to other media |
| [17:24:00] | simcop2387: | Lightnin: it should also give you some "key" that you should put on the disc itself so that it can tell you which disk easily |
| [17:25:00] | Lightnin: | simcop2387, true |
| [17:25:00] | Lightnin: | backup to dvd, restore from dvd backup, play from dvd backup.... |
| [17:25:00] | Krazylegz: | "Name backup DVD." |
| [17:25:00] | Lightnin: | dvd would need a data file also incase you lose what is on the drive, you could restore back to it too |
| [17:26:00] | Lightnin: | so where do such requests get inputted? :P |
| [17:26:00] | sphing: | simcop2387: could be a simple key.txt file on the drive |
| [17:26:00] | sphing: | *disc |
| [17:26:00] | simcop2387: | sphing i was thinking on the label of the disk (the top surface itself) |
| [17:26:00] | sphing: | ah |
| [17:26:00] | simcop2387: | something to physically write to differentiate between disks |
| [17:27:00] | simcop2387: | could be picked by the user or by the program |
| [17:27:00] | Lightnin: | just dump it into a data file along with any info of what is on the dvd |
| [17:27:00] | Lightnin: | user specifies what the ID is |
| [17:27:00] | simcop2387: | an automatic id generator would be nice too, then a whole semi automated setup could be made for disc labels to be printed out also |
| [17:28:00] | ** simcop2387 is all about automation ** | |
| [17:28:00] | Lightnin: | true |
| [17:28:00] | Lightnin: | by dvd+rw's, you could add on to a current dvd (add to backup). creating a new backup would not allow the same id across dvd's |
| [17:28:00] | Lightnin: | add to a current, display a list of all current known backups to select from |
| [17:28:00] | simcop2387: | if i had a lego mind storms kit it'd be put to use managing a rack of dvd's that were automatically burned from mythtv, and it'd pick out the discs you want when you choose them in mythtv |
| [17:29:00] | ** Lightnin has wheels turning as to the code if he gets his setup done after his house goes thru ** | |
| [17:30:00] | simcop2387: | be sweet to have a rack of 100+ dvd's that you can select shows from and the lego's pull out the correct dvd play the show and put it back when no longer needed |
| [17:30:00] | sphing: | lol @ simcop2387 yes its possible i guess |
| [17:30:00] | Lightnin: | you can program that, i'll just work on the actual archive program |
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| [17:31:00] | Lightnin: | assuming no such program currently exists... |
| [17:31:00] | sphing: | Lightnin: are you envisioning coding in something like perl? |
| [17:31:00] | Lightnin: | need some place to put the recommendation up at so it isnt forgetten about, even if i dont get to it |
| [17:32:00] | simcop2387: | sphing: i've seen something similar before but never to that extent, i'd have it setup so that there are at least 4 racks and the whole system can be made so you put a cd/dvd in the drive, hit a button and boom it catalogs the dvd/cd and then puts it in a slot |
| [17:32:00] | Krazylegz: | Congratulations on the house. |
| [17:32:00] | Lightnin: | sphing, not sure. I believe mythtv and it's plugins are done in C |
| [17:32:00] | Lightnin: | i tend to know C more than perl |
| [17:32:00] | Lightnin: | but perl could be possible |
| [17:32:00] | sphing: | i have never done anything gui-esque in C |
| [17:32:00] | Lightnin: | Krazylegz, thanks. closing is 21st. then have to get the hardware together to setup mythtv |
| [17:33:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh. |
| [17:33:00] | Krazylegz: | Mine is the 31st. :-) |
| [17:33:00] | Lightnin: | sphing, i've done more back-end type programming. Have to see how current stuff is done anyways to allow for the theming, etc |
| [17:33:00] | simcop2387: | sphing: i'm doing mine in perl! the mythdvdburn (at least the script to burn them and create the menus) |
| [17:34:00] | sphing: | we'd need the gui to enter the dvd disc name |
| [17:34:00] | sphing: | and to be to select which shows need to be archived |
| [17:34:00] | Lightnin: | i need to first dive in and see how current addons are done and go from there. I have a good idea of how mytharchive could be done though |
| [17:35:00] | simcop2387: | Lightnin: once yours is done i'll probably have time to work on dvdburn and base mine off yours |
| [17:35:00] | sphing: | althought you'd pretty much have to encode it... otherwise you'd just be burning 1 maybe 2 episodes a disc |
| [17:35:00] | Lightnin: | and I have quite a bit of database experience too which is good |
| [17:36:00] | ** sphing must get ready.... class awaits ** | |
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| [17:36:00] | Lightnin: | sphing, depends, make it a user option as to how to encode to the dvd |
| [17:37:00] | sphing: | you'd probably be better off altering mythvideo code |
| [17:38:00] | Lightnin: | sphing, again, i have to see how current things are setup and go from there as to what is used to progam it |
| [17:38:00] | sphing: | rgr |
| [17:38:00] | Lightnin: | i try to leave my options open :) |
| [17:38:00] | simcop2387: | i wish tcrequant worked correctly, it really screws up the video and audio for me |
| [17:39:00] | simcop2387: | Lightnin: you'd probably want to use the mythtranscode daemon to do any transcoding you'd need, then the jobs can be managed, and wait for the resulting files to be done, then burn them to disc and catalog them properly |
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| [18:01:00] | drunken-wallaby: | hi everyone... |
| [18:02:00] | mocker: | Woo, just earned LPI certification. |
| [18:04:00] | drunken-wallaby: | got a question: i just read at pvrhw.goldfish.org that some people are using a leadtek winfast pvr2000 pci sucessfully for their mythtv box. however, at ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Supported_hardware, this card is listed as known not to work. anyone can help me with this card? should i buy it? |
| [18:05:00] | jonK: | if there's even a question why would you buy one? |
| [18:05:00] | jonK: | esecially when there are so many other cards known to work without an issue |
| [18:06:00] | Lightnin: | simcop2387, k. still need someplace to jot these notes down just incase i cant do it, someone else can look over the idea |
| [18:08:00] | drunken-wallaby: | jonK: well, it's definately the cheapest card with hardware encoding i think... |
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| [18:09:00] | jonK: | are you sure it has hardware encoding? and how much cheaper than a 150 or 500 is it? |
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| [18:11:00] | drunken-wallaby: | jonK: yeah. i'm sure about the hw-encoder (eadtek.com/multimedia/winfast_pvr2000_1.html). |
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| [18:11:00] | pembo13: | can someone help me setup the remote for a wintv radio? |
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| [18:12:00] | pembo13: | can someone help me setup the remote for a wintv radio? |
| [18:19:00] | sskk: | I'm trying to find a good way to import all my DVDs on my mythbox. I want all data (subtitles, extra material, menus etc.) imported, so mythDVD will not do it?. Now I learn that a way to do this is to copy an iso image of the DVD to my myth box, and have xine play the iso image.. |
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| [18:20:00] | sskk: | Now I'm thinking – does there exist a solution for this out there? (where the process is integrated in the myth menus etc.)? |
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| [18:39:00] | xris: | sskk: could pretty easily write a sherll script to do it |
| [18:39:00] | xris: | shell |
| [18:40:00] | sskk: | xris: yes... But if someone has already implementet it into the myth GUI with progress bar and all ;) I would use that. |
| [18:41:00] | xris: | that I can't say... I know there's been talk of it, but since I don't use it, I wouldn't know. |
| [18:41:00] | xris: | I'd rather use my dvd player to play dvd's (output quality is much better) |
| [18:42:00] | ** laga wonders if mythDVD supports dvd -> image in svn ** | |
| [18:42:00] | sskk: | xris: right.. Have you got any idea, how to create an iso file from a DVD? |
| [18:42:00] | sskk: | I will check that out laga... thanks for the tip |
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| [18:42:00] | laga: | sskk: just search in trac |
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| [18:44:00] | xris: | sskk: dd /dev/dvd > dvd.iso |
| [18:44:00] | xris: | sorry, that's wrong |
| [18:45:00] | xris: | dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvd.iso |
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| [18:45:00] | sskk: | thanks |
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| [18:54:00] | elod: | hi |
| [18:54:00] | elod: | anyone here using pvr350's tv out? |
| [18:54:00] | jonK: | i am |
| [18:55:00] | Rince: | well – I did |
| [18:57:00] | elod: | fine. how the hell do you get the framebuffer device? |
| [18:58:00] | jonK: | I'm getting a protocol mismatch between mythweb (18) and backend (19). Has something changed in the most recent build that I need to be aware of? |
| [18:58:00] | elod: | i'm running gentoo, so i emerge'd ivtv-0.4.0. so far, so good. but i have no ivtv-fb module, and saa7127 options are outdated in the docs i found |
| [18:58:00] | sskk: | laga: You were right. dvd->iso is implemented in the source (http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/125) |
| [18:58:00] | laga: | sskk: nice |
| [18:59:00] | sskk: | guess this is the clue that should make me go from 18.1 to SVN on my box... |
| [19:00:00] | laga: | if you feel brave enough |
| [19:03:00] | jonK: | I've been running off of SVN for some time, and have not had any significant problems |
| [19:04:00] | jonK: | (until this protocol mismatch error this morning) |
| [19:04:00] | elod: | jonK, any link for pvr350 to work? |
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| [19:06:00] | jonK: | have you found the ivtv-fb module in the ivtv source |
| [19:06:00] | elod: | yup just did |
| [19:07:00] | jonK: | in the utils directory is a README.X11 file |
| [19:07:00] | jonK: | (at least there is in teh 0.3.6 version |
| [19:07:00] | jonK: | you need to install the driver, and then reconfigure your xserver to use the frame buffer driver |
| [19:08:00] | elod: | i followed this guide (i made a previous attempt with 0.3.8 which led me where i am : ) |
| [19:08:00] | elod: | (EE) IVTVDEV_TST(0)Framebuffer id from dev /dev/fb1is 1 |
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| [19:09:00] | elod: | damn. |
| [19:09:00] | elod: | i'm using the modified X driver, videodev |
| [19:09:00] | elod: | but if i try to startx, i get : (EE) IVTVDEV_TST(0)Framebuffer id from dev /dev/fb1is 1 |
| [19:09:00] | elod: | and google was of no help on this one |
| [19:18:00] | jonK: | ok.. and in the device section of your xorg.conf file does it reflect the right device id? |
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| [19:27:00] | Cardoe: | videodev isn't the X driver |
| [19:28:00] | Cardoe: | jonK: one of your systems is running the latest SVN and 1 is not. |
| [19:30:00] | elod: | jonK, yes it does |
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| [19:32:00] | sskk: | I get the followling error, when I try to check out the myth source with svn. Any clues? |
| [19:32:00] | sskk: | svn: REPORT of '/svn/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://svn.mythtv.org) |
| [19:33:00] | laga: | sskk: that's possibly a problem with squid, search the ML archive |
| [19:33:00] | sskk: | ML archive? |
| [19:34:00] | laga: | sskk: gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ |
| [19:34:00] | Cardoe: | elod: the Gentoo ebuild doesn't have the ivtv-fb driver |
| [19:34:00] | Cardoe: | elod: have to d/l a diff package for that |
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| [19:37:00] | xris: | anyone here ever try to encode mpeg-TS with transcode? |
| [19:38:00] | Cardoe: | elod: actually I lied |
| [19:38:00] | xris: | would like to get nuvexport to support HD recordings, but I really don't know all that much about the specifics of encoding from large formats.. I either get vertical sync and color issues, or a straight green color. |
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| [19:39:00] | sskk: | thanks laga – looks like a solution is to be found there... |
| [19:40:00] | Cardoe: | xris: well does it look like good quality green? |
| [19:41:00] | Cardoe: | elod: you're gonna want ivtv-0.4.0-r1 |
| [19:41:00] | Cardoe: | I totally forgot about PVR-350s in ivtv-0.4.0 |
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| [19:45:00] | xris: | Cardoe: yes, it's a nice green... but a green rectangle isn't so nice when you're expecting a tv show. |
| [19:46:00] | Cardoe: | xris: well bill it as HDTV quality green |
| [19:46:00] | xris: | heh |
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| [19:48:00] | Cardoe: | elod: seriously, with a PVR-350... don't use ivtv 0.4.0 |
| [19:48:00] | Cardoe: | use ivtv 0.4.0-r1 |
| [19:48:00] | Cardoe: | I was even copying the wrong firmware over. |
| [19:48:00] | Cardoe: | heh |
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| [19:49:00] | Cardoe: | That's what happens when you write code at 4am when you were exhausted at like 1am |
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| [19:51:00] | BockBilbo: | hello |
| [19:54:00] | ** xris curses dumbass graphic people who know less about their software than I do. ** | |
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| [19:57:00] | Cardoe: | xris: so what's mfd? |
| [19:57:00] | elod: | Cardoe, thanks, i'm trying this one |
| [19:58:00] | xris: | Cardoe: myth frontend daemon |
| [19:58:00] | Cardoe: | elod: ivtv-0.4.0-r1 |
| [19:58:00] | xris: | eventually will be used for controlling audio stuff so you can do stuff like play music while browsing the gallery, etc. |
| [19:59:00] | Cardoe: | elod: I just added it to the tree... you might not have it yet. |
| [19:59:00] | laga: | xris: that will be sweet. |
| [19:59:00] | Cardoe: | elod: then you'll need xdriver on top of it. |
| [19:59:00] | Cardoe: | that'll be good. |
| [19:59:00] | Cardoe: | I kind of already use mpd for that. |
| [19:59:00] | Cardoe: | I'm hacking a new mythmusic |
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| [20:00:00] | Cardoe: | that's a frontend to mpd |
| [20:00:00] | Cardoe: | xris: is it functional? |
| [20:01:00] | xris: | Cardoe: should be. dunno how to set it up, though. |
| [20:01:00] | xris: | mfd + mfe |
| [20:01:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
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| [20:07:00] | toresbe: | Cardoe: this new mythmusic, does it support hierarchical viewing? |
| [20:08:00] | toresbe: | By folder or by album or whatever? |
| [20:10:00] | elod: | Cardoe, nice, you maintain ivtv for gentoo? |
| [20:10:00] | Cardoe: | elod: yes |
| [20:11:00] | Cardoe: | toresbe: no. |
| [20:11:00] | elod: | hehe glad to talk to you :D |
| [20:11:00] | elod: | do you have any link i can dl the ebuild from? |
| [20:11:00] | Cardoe: | toresbe: it supports nothing other then using mpc command line |
| [20:12:00] | Cardoe: | toresbe: I'm hoping to have the time to actually work on it and make it a real mpd client |
| [20:12:00] | toresbe: | cool |
| [20:13:00] | elod: | Cardoe, does this 0.4.0-r1 includes ivtv-fb ? |
| [20:16:00] | Cardoe: | yes |
| [20:18:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, some things bout the ivtv 0.4.0 ebuild |
| [20:19:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, unless .4 changed, the tuner.ko that comes with the kernel is recommended for m179/250/350 cards. the ivtv one was only for the 150/500 |
| [20:20:00] | elod: | Cardoe, nice thanks :) |
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| [20:32:00] | jonK: | ok.. and in the device section of your xorg.conf file does it reflect the right device id? |
| [20:34:00] | jonK: | ignore that last remark — errant notepad hitting keys |
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| [20:41:00] | sskk: | anybody know of an alternative method for obtaining the myth source code (I'm behind a server that is not properly configured for svn access)? |
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| [20:45:00] | lordliima: | hmm, whats best software to extract/demux .nuv files externally |
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| [20:45:00] | lordliima: | does projectx support .nuv straight or do i need to do something before it |
| [21:04:00] | xris: | lordliima: nuvexport |
| [21:04:00] | xris: | question is, do you have NUV files or mpeg2 .nuv files? |
| [21:05:00] | lordliima: | not sure :) |
| [21:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: Does nuvexport support the new naming structure now ? |
| [21:05:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: sort of |
| [21:06:00] | xris: | lordliima: what kind of tuner card do you have? |
| [21:06:00] | lordliima: | tt budget |
| [21:06:00] | xris: | lordliima: ? |
| [21:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mostly curious since I have several recordings I want to transcode |
| [21:06:00] | xris: | v4l, ivtv or dvb? |
| [21:06:00] | lordliima: | technotrend budget dvb-c |
| [21:07:00] | xris: | lordliima: then your files are mpeg-ts — the nuv is just the filename |
| [21:07:00] | lordliima: | ok |
| [21:07:00] | xris: | I don't think nuvexport can handle those (no one will help me figure out how to make them work) |
| [21:07:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: give it a try. most stuff should work, unless you do weird stuff like put recordings in subdirectories. |
| [21:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: I'll help. I've got several mpegts streams I want to convert so far all of my efforts end up with major audio sync issues |
| [21:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, if it reads the filename from the db that should work I woulod think |
| [21:08:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: when I use transcode, I get a green block instead of video.. if I use transcode run through mythtranscode, I get vertical and color sync issues. |
| [21:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | I played around and moved recordings into several subdirs and added that info to the filename in the database |
| [21:08:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: doesn't.. but scans for alternative suffixes. |
| [21:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | they all plyed and deleted happily in the interface |
| [21:09:00] | xris: | subdirs won't work with nuvexport yet. I don't think. |
| [21:09:00] | xris: | maybe I did add that. |
| [21:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'll certainly look at it. Off to another TD dinner |
| [21:09:00] | xris: | my bad, it's all updated, should work fine for everything. |
| [21:09:00] | laga: | hi xris & GreyFoxx |
| [21:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool. I'l update and play with it later |
| [21:09:00] | ** xris pretends to ignore laga ** | |
| [21:10:00] | ** laga doesn't only pretend to slap xris ** | |
| [21:11:00] | laga: | xris: nuvexport supports the new naming structure? great. somebody complainted about it to me |
| [21:11:00] | xris: | laga: it should, yes... I apparently added the code few weeks ago when I changed mythlink to mythrename |
| [21:11:00] | laga: | xris: good. i'll tell him ;) |
| [21:16:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: alright. I'll tweak it. |
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| [21:31:00] | elod: | Cardoe, can i grab this 0.4.0-r1 ebuild somewhere? i don't want to abuse the rsync servers |
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| [21:40:00] | foobum: | hi, i'm using the digital out of my nforce4 audio with the nvsound binary driver.. works fine except in mythmusic where i get what sounds like digital clipping on some tracks (possibly the 'louder' ones).. the same tracks play fine in xmms (using the same device).. any ideas? |
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| [21:46:00] | foobum: | seems to happen regardless of codec (mad, vorbis) :( |
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| [22:10:00] | blammo_doh: | afternoon all. |
| [22:11:00] | blammo_doh: | anyone want to take a shot at a kernel/oop logging question? |
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| [22:16:00] | blammo_doh: | ? |
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| [22:21:00] | comcipher_away: | blammo_doh: This channel has it's dead spots.... I'd say just ask again later or idle for awhile |
| [22:21:00] | beavis: | moin blammo_doh |
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| [22:22:00] | beavis: | irc as root? :-O |
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| [22:25:00] | blammo_doh: | sorry, didn't mean to put ? into the channel.. learning a new shell irc client.. :) I know there are dead spots.. I'm prepared to wait it out. |
| [22:26:00] | blammo_doh: | moin: popping in from a slave-backend. |
| [22:28:00] | sskk: | has the development of mythweb died out completely, or does somebody know of "activities behind the curtains"? |
| [22:29:00] | blammo_doh: | Let me just put the question out, and anyone can answer at their leisure.. I have a backend that is hard/soft locking often. I think I've managed to track down 99% of the issue, but I don't have any logs to support it. When it crashes, nothing is written to /var/log/messages. I don't have an easy way to hook up a serial console to the machine to get a console dump. Any good ideas on how to get something written to disk when it crashe |
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| [22:29:00] | BockBilbo: | hello |
| [22:29:00] | BockBilbo: | im trying to compile mythtv following the documentation |
| [22:29:00] | BockBilbo: | but i get an error during the make |
| [22:29:00] | blammo_doh: | what platform BockBilbo? what distro? |
| [22:29:00] | BockBilbo: | saying mpeg/mpegstreamdata.h:75: error: ‘PESPacket’ cannot be declared |
| [22:29:00] | BockBilbo: | blammo_doh, ubuntu i686 |
| [22:30:00] | BockBilbo: | (ubuntu breezy) |
| [22:30:00] | blammo_doh: | are you using either apt or yum? (sorry, not familar with that distro) |
| [22:30:00] | BockBilbo: | blammo_doh, well, i could use apt and install the precompiled packages |
| [22:30:00] | BockBilbo: | but im compiling from the sources |
| [22:31:00] | BockBilbo: | because i get an error initializing the init.d script of myth |
| [22:31:00] | blammo_doh: | I've found that the best way to get all the dependancies sometimes when I'm trying out a new combo, is to install the precompileds, let apt/yum get all the dependancies, then "roll my own" so to speak. |
| [22:32:00] | blammo_doh: | I might be able to help with the init.d problem.. paste a note or two? |
| [22:32:00] | BockBilbo: | alrite |
| [22:33:00] | BockBilbo: | hold on |
| [22:33:00] | BockBilbo: | let me install the packages |
| [22:33:00] | blammo_doh: | 99% of the time turns out to be somepackage-devel I was missing. |
| [22:34:00] | BockBilbo: | blammo_doh, is there a list of devel package needed? |
| [22:34:00] | BockBilbo: | i installed the qt devel package (which i also use for amarok), lame and xmltv |
| [22:34:00] | laga: | you could always get the source packages |
| [22:35:00] | blammo_doh: | you could check the .spec file |
| [22:35:00] | laga: | ubuntu is based on .debs ;) |
| [22:35:00] | BockBilbo: | laga im compiling from the source packages |
| [22:36:00] | laga: | meaning that you should look in debian/control and debian/rules for deps |
| [22:36:00] | laga: | BockBilbo: oh, ok |
| [22:36:00] | BockBilbo: | and it just talks about 3 devel packages and it says to check the doc at the web |
| [22:36:00] | blammo_doh: | you could check here : http://dl.atrpms.net/all/mythplugins.spec |
| [22:36:00] | BockBilbo: | let me see blammo |
| [22:36:00] | blammo_doh: | it's the requires for the plugins package. that's a good place to start |
| [22:36:00] | blammo_doh: | look for the lines that start with BuildRequires |
| [22:37:00] | blammo_doh: | and http://dl.atrpms.net/all/mythtv.spec |
| [22:38:00] | BockBilbo: | blammo_doh, should i try to install those devel packages? or should i install the precompiled package and tell you about the error? |
| [22:39:00] | blammo_doh: | Anyone here using RHEL4/derivitives tell me what filessystems are supported in the stock kernels? I know XFS is out.. how about JFS/Reiser? |
| [22:40:00] | blammo_doh: | BockBilbo – both if you have time.. I'd guess the people here could help solve the problems with the pre-compiled a lot faster. :) |
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| [22:41:00] | harryman100: | Hi, can anyone explain how I could set up my channel logos manually, none of the automatic ways work for me? can I simply place the image files somewhere and then reference it in the channel set up? |
| [22:42:00] | BockBilbo: | ok |
| [22:42:00] | BockBilbo: | lets do the precompilated thing |
| [22:43:00] | BockBilbo: | blammo_doh, i get this error when starting the mythtv-backend: Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
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| [22:44:00] | blammo_doh: | how about if you start backend from a commandline? Like so : mythbackend -v all |
| [22:44:00] | blammo_doh: | bypass the init.d wrapper for a second. |
| [22:44:00] | BockBilbo: | mm hold on |
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| [22:44:00] | BockBilbo: | i get an access denied for user |
| [22:45:00] | BockBilbo: | what was the way to change the password in mysql command line? |
| [22:45:00] | blammo_doh: | ahhh – now we're on to something. :) have you set the root mysql password yet? |
| [22:45:00] | blammo_doh: | and what user? mythtv users? |
| [22:45:00] | BockBilbo: | set SET PASSWORD FOR 'jeffrey'@'%' = PASSWORD('biscuit'); ? |
| [22:45:00] | blammo_doh: | user, rather |
| [22:46:00] | BockBilbo: | blammo_doh, they are set by the deb packages but not correctly |
| [22:46:00] | blammo_doh: | brb – phone |
| [22:46:00] | BockBilbo: | ok |
| [22:48:00] | BockBilbo: | here is the log of doing mythbackend -v all |
| [22:48:00] | BockBilbo: | http://www.goikoetxeta.com/log |
| [22:48:00] | BockBilbo: | Error getting inputs for the capturecard. Perhaps you have |
| [22:48:00] | BockBilbo: | forgotten to bind video sources to your card's inputs? |
| [22:52:00] | BockBilbo: | why does it say that? |
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| [22:53:00] | BockBilbo: | i have a plextor convert x px-tv402u that is supported by v4l and mythtv |
| [22:53:00] | laga: | BockBilbo: because you didnt do the third or fourth step in setup properly |
| [22:53:00] | BockBilbo: | and installed the modules correctly from oss oss.wischip.com/ |
| [22:54:00] | BockBilbo: | laga, which one is that? Checking prerequisites. ? |
| [22:55:00] | laga: | BockBilbo: in mythtv-setup |
| [22:55:00] | BockBilbo: | oh |
| [22:55:00] | BockBilbo: | ok |
| [22:55:00] | BockBilbo: | let me rerun it |
| [22:56:00] | BockBilbo: | what is the composite input for? |
| [22:56:00] | elod: | anyone know how i can force saa7127 to pal ? |
| [22:57:00] | elod: | BockBilbo, xbox, videorecorder, VCR... |
| [22:57:00] | BockBilbo: | so what should the tv in option? tuner? |
| [22:57:00] | elod: | yup |
| [22:57:00] | BockBilbo: | there we go |
| [22:58:00] | elod: | unless you use an external tuner, like for satellite |
| [22:58:00] | elod: | :) |
| [22:59:00] | BockBilbo: | :) |
| [23:02:00] | BockBilbo: | ok |
| [23:02:00] | foobum: | hmm.. mythmusic is resampling it's output from 44.1 -> 48kHz (since I'm using a digital out)... but this is introducing 'clicks' in the playback (apparently related to bass/volume) |
| [23:02:00] | BockBilbo: | now im running mythfilldatabase --manual option |
| [23:02:00] | BockBilbo: | it ask me to choose a channel id |
| [23:02:00] | foobum: | i edited audiooutputbase.cpp so that the resampling isn't done and no more clicks |
| [23:02:00] | BockBilbo: | what is it for? will it be the number i will have to select in the remote? |
| [23:02:00] | foobum: | (but high pitched, fast audio :)) |
| [23:03:00] | laga: | foobum: i wonder if you could use dmix for down/upsampling |
| [23:03:00] | elod: | BockBilbo, not exactly. this is rather the link between xmltv channels and mythtv channels |
| [23:03:00] | elod: | anyone can help with a pvr350 output? |
| [23:03:00] | blammo_doh: | back – sorry. |
| [23:04:00] | BockBilbo: | elod, and can i choose any number? |
| [23:04:00] | foobum: | laga: ah.. unfortunately im using the nvsounds binary OSS driver :( |
| [23:04:00] | BockBilbo: | hello blammo_doh :) |
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| [23:04:00] | laga: | foobum: ouch :/ |
| [23:04:00] | foobum: | laga: yeah.. the alsa driver kinda works, except i have to flip a mixer control after the start of each playback to hear anything from the digital out |
| [23:05:00] | foobum: | laga: which gets tedious quite quickly |
| [23:05:00] | laga: | right |
| [23:05:00] | BockBilbo: | can i? |
| [23:05:00] | foobum: | laga: this driver seems to work fine... ac3 pass through 'n all |
| [23:05:00] | foobum: | laga: xmms plays the files fine |
| [23:05:00] | foobum: | laga: so it's something to do with the mythtv resampler i think |
| [23:06:00] | laga: | foobum: file a bug? |
| [23:06:00] | foobum: | laga: yeah.. i'm having a quick look over the code now |
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| [23:09:00] | blammo_doh: | GuyWhoWasAskingAboutChannelIcons : start in mysql with mythconverg.networkiconmap and mythconverg.callsignnetworkmap |
| [23:13:00] | BockBilbo: | blammo_doh, i still get this error when running the init.d script: Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| [23:14:00] | blammo_doh: | ok, sorry.. have you set the mythtv password in mysql? try this and see if you can start the console successfully: mysql -p mythconverg |
| [23:14:00] | BockBilbo: | blammo_doh, yes |
| [23:14:00] | BockBilbo: | it is set |
| [23:14:00] | blammo_doh: | try logging in with the root mysql password.. see if it works |
| [23:14:00] | xris: | BockBilbo: likely mysql stuff |
| [23:15:00] | blammo_doh: | from there you can reset the password for the mythtv user |
| [23:15:00] | BockBilbo: | blammo_doh, ive resetted it |
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| [23:15:00] | xris: | BockBilbo: scan your system for stray mysql.txt files... like in /.mythtv or /etc/mythtv or /usr/local/share/mythtv |
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| [23:15:00] | xris: | (yes, that's /, not ~/) |
| [23:15:00] | blammo_doh: | ok, have you checked /.mythtv/mysql.txt /root/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
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| [23:16:00] | blammo_doh: | the /. one always gets me |
| [23:16:00] | BockBilbo: | i have a ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [23:16:00] | xris: | BockBilbo: not ~/ |
| [23:16:00] | xris: | that's the correct one |
| [23:16:00] | BockBilbo: | ok |
| [23:17:00] | BockBilbo: | xris ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt seens to be a configuration file of mysql |
| [23:17:00] | blammo_doh: | make sure U/P are correct in there as well |
| [23:17:00] | BockBilbo: | they are blammo |
| [23:18:00] | BockBilbo: | when running mythtv-setup i dont get an error connecting to the db |
| [23:18:00] | blammo_doh: | Try this : mysql -p -u mythtv mythconverg |
| [23:18:00] | blammo_doh: | see if you can log in successfully. |
| [23:18:00] | xris: | BockBilbo: yes. but that's the CORRECT one.. I'm asking you to check for stray files elsewhere that might be confusing mythtv |
| [23:18:00] | blammo_doh: | BockBilbo: hmmmm.. so only the backend flakes out?? is this a new setup, IE new DB? |
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| [23:19:00] | BockBilbo: | blammo_doh, i can loggin correctly using mysql -p -u mythtv mythconverg |
| [23:19:00] | BockBilbo: | oh ok xris.. let me do a locate |
| [23:20:00] | BockBilbo: | blammo_doh, well it is a new setup |
| [23:21:00] | BockBilbo: | i bought the card 3 days ago |
| [23:21:00] | BockBilbo: | though ive tried to install mythtv correctly in the last days without beeing able to watch tv |
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| [23:23:00] | BockBilbo: | xris, i get this: locate mysql.txt |
| [23:23:00] | BockBilbo: | /home/unai/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [23:23:00] | BockBilbo: | /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [23:23:00] | BockBilbo: | /usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt.dist |
| [23:23:00] | BockBilbo: | /usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [23:23:00] | blammo_doh: | good pile of them |
| [23:23:00] | BockBilbo: | :S |
| [23:24:00] | blammo_doh: | make sure they are all consistant.. |
| [23:24:00] | BockBilbo: | alright and in one of them the password is incorrect |
| [23:24:00] | blammo_doh: | :) |
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| [23:24:00] | BockBilbo: | done |
| [23:24:00] | BockBilbo: | let me try again the script |
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| [23:26:00] | xris: | BockBilbo: delete any of the ones you don't use. according to isaac, only ~/.mythtv/ is correct |
| [23:26:00] | BockBilbo: | alright |
| [23:26:00] | xris: | (even if I disagree with him and think that global backend config files should be in /etc) |
| [23:27:00] | BockBilbo: | so im gonna delete the other 3 |
| [23:27:00] | xris: | the backend itself will probably be checking /usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt if it runs as root |
| [23:27:00] | BockBilbo: | xris, so should i keep that one? |
| [23:28:00] | BockBilbo: | having keept only the one at ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt, i still get the same error: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| [23:28:00] | BockBilbo: | let me restore the file at /usr/share/mythtv |
| [23:29:00] | blammo_doh: | xris : do we know what the search order is? /.mythtv/mysql.txt seems to be the preferred if it exists. |
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| [23:33:00] | BockBilbo: | blammo_doh, xris, this is what i get doing "mythbackend -v all" http://www.goikoetxeta.com/log , it says /var/lib/mythtv//nfslockfile.lock: permission denied . Unable to open lockfile!Be sure that '/var/lib/mythtv/' exists and that both |
| [23:33:00] | BockBilbo: | the directory and that file are writeable by this user. |
| [23:33:00] | blammo_doh: | if you run it as root, does it fly? |
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| [23:34:00] | BockBilbo: | ls -all /var/lib/mythtv/nfslockfile.lock |
| [23:34:00] | BockBilbo: | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 0 2005-10–10 23:30 /var/lib/mythtv/nfslockfile.lock |
| [23:34:00] | blammo_doh: | check and see in the init.d script if it's trying to run as a different user... |
| [23:34:00] | BockBilbo: | i dont get it as root |
| [23:34:00] | BockBilbo: | seens that it works ok as root |
| [23:35:00] | blammo_doh: | ok, then the $100k question is : What user is it trying to run as in the script? |
| [23:35:00] | BockBilbo: | let me check it |
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| [23:36:00] | BockBilbo: | start-stop-daemon --start --pidfile $RUNDIR/$NAME.pid \ |
| [23:36:00] | BockBilbo: | --chuid $USER --nicelevel $NICE --exec $DAEMON — $ARGS |
| [23:36:00] | blammo_doh: | what value is $USER set to |
| [23:36:00] | BockBilbo: | i think that --chuid $USER is the progan |
| [23:36:00] | BockBilbo: | right? |
| [23:36:00] | BockBilbo: | no idea |
| [23:36:00] | xris: | haha.. `ls -all` is a funny way to hit the -l and -a flags... |
| [23:37:00] | BockBilbo: | xris xDDD |
| [23:37:00] | BockBilbo: | 8-) |
| [23:38:00] | ** xris likes -laF (or laFh) ** | |
| [23:38:00] | BockBilbo: | blammo_doh, see if im as root |
| [23:38:00] | BockBilbo: | $USER is root |
| [23:39:00] | BockBilbo: | xris, blammo_doh can that be the problem? |
| [23:40:00] | blammo_doh: | yes |
| [23:40:00] | BockBilbo: | wow |
| [23:40:00] | blammo_doh: | make it mythtv |
| [23:40:00] | BockBilbo: | yeah |
| [23:40:00] | BockBilbo: | cause there user is blank! |
| [23:40:00] | Spida: | laga: *ping* |
| [23:41:00] | BockBilbo: | ive modified the script to show in the input the value of $USER |
| [23:41:00] | laga: | Spida: pong |
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| [23:41:00] | BockBilbo: | my bad, the user there is ok, its mythtv |
| [23:42:00] | Spida: | laga: query? |
| [23:42:00] | laga: | Spida: sounds spiffy. |
| [23:43:00] | BockBilbo: | this is the script http://www.goikoetxeta.com/mythtv-backend |
| [23:44:00] | blammo_doh: | are there any issues you're aware of with daemonizing a process as a non-root user? |
| [23:45:00] | BockBilbo: | mm nope |
| [23:45:00] | BockBilbo: | and perhaps, i demonize the proccess using sudo |
| [23:45:00] | blammo_doh: | there we go.. try that |
| [23:45:00] | BockBilbo: | what? |
| [23:45:00] | blammo_doh: | if it works as root, that tells me it's permisso. :) |
| [23:45:00] | BockBilbo: | it doesnt work as root |
| [23:46:00] | blammo_doh: | thought you said it did work as root? |
| [23:47:00] | BockBilbo: | well the mythbackend -v all works as root and using sudo |
| [23:47:00] | BockBilbo: | and the init script shows that authentification error |
| [23:47:00] | BockBilbo: | though it seens that its running |
| [23:48:00] | BockBilbo: | because if i try to start it again, i get this log: Starting MythTV server: mythbackend/usr/bin/mythbackend already running. |
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| [23:48:00] | blammo_doh: | one other thought.. when you reboot, the init.d script runs as root, but opt's up to the right user, right? does that work? |
| [23:49:00] | BockBilbo: | sorry.. what do you mean by "opt's up to the right user" ? |
| [23:49:00] | BockBilbo: | ... im not an english native speaker |
| [23:49:00] | BockBilbo: | :S |
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| [23:53:00] | lordliima: | BockBilbo: you have gentoo? |
| [23:54:00] | BockBilbo: | lordliima, nope, i use ubuntu |
| [23:54:00] | lordliima: | oh |
| [23:54:00] | lordliima: | dunno about that then |
| [23:54:00] | lordliima: | but with gentoo you can doo /etc/init.d/mythbackend zap |
| [23:54:00] | lordliima: | it kills it manually if it has crashed or something |
| [23:55:00] | lordliima: | and after that you can start the daemon with start |
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| [23:56:00] | BockBilbo: | lordliima in ubuntu its stop |
| [23:56:00] | BockBilbo: | i think |
| [23:56:00] | lordliima: | in gentoo normal stop is stop too |
| [23:56:00] | BockBilbo: | mm |
| [23:56:00] | lordliima: | but stop does nothing if something bad has happened |
| [23:57:00] | BockBilbo: | ohh |
| [23:57:00] | BockBilbo: | ok |
| [23:57:00] | BockBilbo: | well, anyway, how do i set the channels? |
| [23:57:00] | lordliima: | there is zap in mythbackend init script which helps in that kind of cases |
| [23:57:00] | BockBilbo: | i just see a green screen in anyone |
| [23:57:00] | BockBilbo: | mmm interesting |
| [23:57:00] | lordliima: | that in gentoo |
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| [23:57:00] | lordliima: | dont know how the ubuntu init script has been done |
| [23:57:00] | blammo_doh: | sorry Bockbilbo : I meant that the init.d script runs as room, and then sudo's the commandline as specifiied by the $USER variable |
| [23:57:00] | blammo_doh: | sounds like that would work |
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| [23:58:00] | BockBilbo: | but |
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| [23:58:00] | BockBilbo: | the script defines the user variable |
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