Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Friday, October 7th, 2005, 00:01 UTC

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Juski:

ach well – time for bed.

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rage-:

can you create groups to organize your recordings?

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GreyFoxx:

no

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GreyFoxx:

They are grouped by their name/title

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GreyFoxx:

Or are you referring to something under MythVideo instead of mythtv ?

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rage-:

nope

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patdk2:

you can create groups

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rage-:

I was hoping you could make a group like.. tv shows and throw your tv shows in there

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patdk2:

but the default is to turn that off

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patdk2:

I haven't turned it on too see how it works though

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GreyFoxx:

You can? Wow, I've never seen it. I'd like to know where/how :)

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patdk2:

mythweb doesn't show that though

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patdk2:

if you record from the guide, it asks you if you want to put it into a group

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patdk2:

but the show menu doesn't use that at all

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patdk2:

there is an option to turn it on though

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GreyFoxx:

Do you happen to know where cause I'll turn it on right now and have a look

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patdk2:

so, I can't say it really works or not, just that it looks like it is there

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patdk2:

I think it's under the tv/playback settings

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patdk2:

will look

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patdk2:

hmm, have to plug te monitor in first

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GreyFoxx:

Ahhh ok. I see what they are talking about now

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GreyFoxx:

You can't add one but there are "Talk shows/Suspense/etc/etc"

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GreyFoxx:

and that just sorts the view you get when you go into WatchRecordings

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GreyFoxx:

Never noticed that before

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rage-:

how do you bring that up?

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patdk2:

ya, there is that, that isn't what I meant

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patdk2:

though that might be the menu option I saw

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patdk2:

if you record a new show

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GreyFoxx:

rage-: Actually it looks like exactly what you want is there

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patdk2:

in the storage options

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GreyFoxx:

read keys.txt

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patdk2:

there is a store in the "" recording group

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GreyFoxx:

there is a small section on Recording groups

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GreyFoxx:

Recording Groups allow you to separate programs into user-defined

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GreyFoxx:

categories, such as "Kids", "Alice", "Bob", etc.

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patdk2:

ya

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BobJensen:

What?

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BobJensen:

Nevermind

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rage-:

actually

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GreyFoxx:

Nifty, I don't even remember seeing anyone say they used said feature

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rage-:

I have an option "Store in the "Default" recording group

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rage-:

and I can create my own groups there

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patdk2:

yep

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rage-:

I don't have any defaults

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patdk2:

no, create your own

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rage-:

like kids, comedy/whatever you metioned

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Beirdo:

Porn

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rage-:

my problem becomes this

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rage-:

I've changed all my default keys

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** GreyFoxx moves a recording to a sub directory and it works... yay **

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patdk2:

greyfoxx, under mythvideo?

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GreyFoxx:

Well it's not "full" multi directory support for it works

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rage-:

how do I bring up recording options for a show that's currently on

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GreyFoxx:

no, myth video

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rage-:

?

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GreyFoxx:

not mythvideo I meant

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patdk2:

ah

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GreyFoxx:

I moved a couple recordings to another directory

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rage-:

I can bring up recording options by hitting the enter button on a show yet to air

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GreyFoxx:

updated the database and now I can play them from that location

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rage-:

but if I hit enter on a show that's currently showing it just changes the channel

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patdk2:

rage, ya, you need space, I think is the default

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patdk2:

unless you change it

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GreyFoxx:

So I have recordings stored in multiple directories

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patdk2:

there is a menu option to change that default action

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patdk2:

greyfoxx, that is always usefull, expecually for storage across multible backends

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GreyFoxx:

patdk2: Well It's always been simple under myth video since you could just mount or symlink to other partitions under the root video directory

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patdk2:

it would be handy if it searched all subdirs for the video it is looking for too

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rage-:

I just found another thing that raises questions for me

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GreyFoxx:

but with the recent changes to store the recording name in the database you can now change it or add a directory to the name

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patdk2:

greyfoxx, I try too keep as much stuff as possible out of mythvideo, cuse I don't like it's interface

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rage-:

when recording, how can I record to mpeg2 video?

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GreyFoxx:

patdk2: I use mythvideo/Video List all the time

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patdk2:

I directly import my replaytv videos into mythtv

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rage-:

then no encoding is happening while I record, plus it's in mpeg2 ready for dvd

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GreyFoxx:

rage-: What kind of capture card ?

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rage-:

soft card

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GreyFoxx:

Then you can't. You can record to mpeg4 or rtjpeg only

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patdk2:

a framegrabber? v4l

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rage-:

GreyFoxx, you sure? if so.. that's kinda said since I recorded straight to mpeg2 in windows :|

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patdk2:

rage, what card?

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GreyFoxx:

rage-: Feel free to write a patch . The libraries are already there to support it

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rage-:

GreyFoxx, if I could do it, I would heh

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patdk2:

heh, mpeg encoding on a computer realtime is not very good

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rage-:

GreyFoxx, I have no coding skills for C heh

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patdk2:

unless you really don't care about diskspace

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GreyFoxx:

myth uses libavcodec/avformat so you could make it encode to mpeg2.

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rage-:

patdk2, well it makes more sense to record it straight to mpeg2 if you plan on burning to a dvd

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patdk2:

rage, depends

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rage-:

instead of going to mpeg4 then to mpeg2

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patdk2:

I like to record raw, then compress down to mpeg2, maintain quality

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GreyFoxx:

Or pickup a cheap pvr150 and record right to mpeg2 without using any cpu effort :)

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patdk2:

if I was actually going make a dvd, that is how I have done it

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rage-:

<patdk2> heh, mpeg encoding on a computer realtime is not very good <patdk2> unless you really don't care about diskspace

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rage-:

you say that, but you record raw? lol

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patdk2:

ya, raw is nice :)

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rage-:

well once I get a bigger harddrive I just may do that with things I intend to burn to dvd

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patdk2:

heh, I think I was using around 200gigs for 2hours

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patdk2:

been a year since I did that though

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patdk2:

everything comes on dvd now, no need too

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rage-:

oh wow

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patdk2:

or just import homevideo's from dv cam

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rage-:

maybe I wont be doing that rofl

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patdk2:

hmm, 140gigs for video, then + audio

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patdk2:

I'm happy, my email servers seem to be happy again

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patdk2:

nothing like 6 different programs raping the mail folders

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rage-:

any way to tell what codecs my movies are encoded with?

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patdk2:

rage, what ever you setup

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patdk2:

under settings/tv/recording profiles

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rage-:

well I recorded some stuff before I even touched that menu

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rage-:

so I'm wondering what format they're saved as

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Icks:

what kind of tuner card do you have?

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rage-:

twinhan soft card

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Icks:

haven't heard of that so your prolly using bttv?

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rage-:

yup

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GreyFoxx:

Only Twinhan I've heard of were DVB cards. Didn't know they made framegrabbers

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rage-:

it is a dvb card

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Agrajag-:

well then it's mpeg2

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GreyFoxx:

Then you are recording in mpeg2

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Agrajag-:

dvb is broadcast in mpeg2

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GreyFoxx:

exactly

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rage-:

well when I go to my recording options, it says "Use "Default" profile to record this show" or w/e

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rage-:

so isn't it going to convert it to whatever codec I've specified in the default profile?

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GreyFoxx:

It's irrelevant

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GreyFoxx:

No

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GreyFoxx:

recording profiles are only for framegrabbers

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rage-:

or transcoding?

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rage-:

I couldn't transcode until I messed with the recording (transcoding) profiles

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GreyFoxx:

There are transcoding profiles yes, but that is something that you must specifically enable

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rage-:

what is?

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rage-:

which profile to use?

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rage-:

I had a hell of a time getting it to work..

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GreyFoxx:

using the transcoding option. either manually flag a recording for transcoding, or configure myth for auto trsanscode

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rage-:

right, I manually flag it to

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GreyFoxx:

then I'm confused. Did you or did you not state that you wanted to record to mpeg2

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Icks:

hmmm

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Icks:

i'm confused too..

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rage-:

yes... my transcoding issues are separate

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rage-:

:|

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rage-:

sorry, I'm mixing problems heh

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rage-:

I want to record to mpeg2 (which you say I am) — and the default profile is not being used despite the appearance of that

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rage-:

you say recording profile aren't used

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GreyFoxx:

yes

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GreyFoxx:

correct

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rage-:

but another issue, I couldn't transcode until I went and messed with the recording profiles

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rage-:

and I'm still not even sure which transcoding profile I'm using

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GreyFoxx:

Sorry, but "messed with" doesn't mean a lot to me :)

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rage-:

or what "From MPEG2" and the others stand for

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rage-:

do those mean "from a source which is mpeg2" ?

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GreyFoxx:

nor do I transcode really so I can't speak to that

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rage-:

messed with... went through and configured and hit "finish" at the end so some changes were made

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GreyFoxx:

I believe so

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patdk2:

hmm, I wonder if my computer will die if Iupdate openssl on it

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patdk2:

na, doesn't look like it, I compiled openssl as static only last time

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patdk2:

hmm, 0.9.4

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rsdvd:

Hiya......has anyone had any luck getting a PVR-150 to work under normal (non-ivtv) v4l drivers?

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patdk2:

it won't

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alainm:

hey all i am in the process of install myth on my fedora box.. if i do a test i get color bars, with the saa7127 module but when i load it without the test_image on i get these white lines on my TV

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alainm:

any thoughts?

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rsdvd:

patdk : difinatly not? the v4l group seems to think it might

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patdk2:

I would be very supprised if it would

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patdk2:

I have never heard of it working that way

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patdk2:

and well, it doesn't output what v4l wants for input really

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rsdvd:

ok! I am a bit suck then! I cannot get the ivtv drivers to build without killing the DVB support in the kernel...it seems t be one or the other

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GreyFoxx:

that makes no sense

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GreyFoxx:

the ivtv drivers are compiled from outside the kernel

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GreyFoxx:

and having dvb enabled should be irrelevant

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rsdvd:

but they install a set or modules (tveeprom/tuner etc) wich seem to conflict withthe kernel ones!

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GreyFoxx:

that is true. but I've never heard of that causing an issue with dvb

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GreyFoxx:

and even if it does, just rename them

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GreyFoxx:

give the ivtv ones different names and load them manually

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patdk2:

no, there is a patch for that

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rsdvd:

I am afraid I have nevre done this stuff before....I am not suer how to

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patdk2:

it modifies the kernel tveeprom/tuner so both can use them

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rsdvd:

is there? any idea where?

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GreyFoxx:

I've been using ivtv+dvb in the same box without touching any of that for a year

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patdk2:

linuxtv I think

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patdk2:

dunno, I know someone was asking about it, and found it, and I was looking at it

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GreyFoxx:

though my dvb stuff is now moved it a slave backend

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patdk2:

I know it was for HD3000 + pvr150

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rsdvd:

I have searched linuxtv and I could not spot it

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patdk2:

dunno if that was dvb drive or not

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rsdvd:

I ahev a nova-t and pvr150

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rsdvd:

GreyFoxx.....could you give me a pointer on how to changethe module names for ivtv?

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smoke_:

any themers around?

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rsdvd:

patdk2 : are you still around? I think I have managed to find the patch you were talking about......could you help me understand how to use it?

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patdk2:

nope

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patdk2:

I haven't used it at all

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rsdvd:

bugger.........I can't even tell what package it patches. Kernel/v4l/linuxtv/ivtv

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BoBotheClown:

hello group

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BoBotheClown:

anyone know where I can find a howto for the usb uirt blaster?

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Jazbo:

So I'm working on burning some recorded shows to DVD and I installed avidemux to help with this but I'm wondering if there is a way that I can chop out the commercials without using avidemux since they are already all commercial flagged. Suggestions?

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briand:

sure. use MythTV's edit function to mark the commercial cutpoints

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briand:

you can import the commercial flags into the cut list

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Jazbo:

into the cut list of avidemux?

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briand:

into the cut list in MythTV.

[03:08:00]

briand:

...as I just said.

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briand:

i've only used the cut list feature once, so far (only had MythTV running a couple weeks), and havent tried burning to CD yet.

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briand:

pull up the OSD menu while watching the recording, and the first option should be "Edit.."

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briand:

puts up a graphic on the bottom of the screen so you can see your cut points.

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Jazbo:

ah cool lemme try

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briand:

there's a one-letter "import commercial flags into cutlist" hotkey, but I don't remember what it is...

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Jazbo:

Hmm would be nice if I could do this automatically with all my recordings, I have at least 30 1 hour programs I want to do this to

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briand:

i bring up the OSD menu on my hauppage grey/black remote by pressing the 'menu [i]' key to the southeast of the arrow keys near the top...

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briand:

well...

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briand:

i thought of that, too.

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briand:

then, every once in a while, the commercial detect messes up...

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briand:

like if there's a 'fade to black' transition in the movie/show...

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briand:

with commercial skip on, you'll miss 10–15 minutes. :/

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Jazbo:

True that but for certain shows it seems to always work

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briand:

it's not *quite* perfect enough to automate.

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briand:

yep.

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briand:

it's always spot-on when I record the Rockford Files on WGN

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briand:

messes up a LOT in primetime, though.

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Jazbo:

same for iron chef :)

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Jazbo:

yah I find comedy central messes up a lot too

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briand:

yep.

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briand:

bravo/amc/tcm are pretty good, tho

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Jazbo:

Do you burn your shows to dvd?

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briand:

so, if one of the cable outlets decides to run "Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother", I hope it's Bravo, AMC, or TCM

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briand:

i am planning on burning a few things to DVD, but haven't yet.

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briand:

I've got the cutlist done for McCartney in Red Square, but I haven't tried transcoding or burning to DVD yet.

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briand:

I also grabbed a *great* Moody Blues concert off PBS a couple weeks ago.

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briand:

in fact, I hadn't even tried *playing* a DVD on my Myth box until last weekend.

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briand:

...it didn't work. :/

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briand:

but, I'm going to be upgrading myth/ivtv in fairly short order, I should think...

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briand:

I'm running a PVR-350 on a Pundit box, and have a PVR-500 on it's way to fill the second (and sole remaining) slot...

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briand:

so, after I get that "upgrade" done, I'll tinker with the rest of the stuff so everything works.

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briand:

I've got 300GB of recording space... so there's no _great_ hurry.

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briand:

that's about 150 hours of "can't lose this" recordings before I need to start making room.

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Jazbo:

I found my 300gig filled up pretty fast, I've got lots of shows I want to archive

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briand:

a lot of stuff I record is just stuff I want to watch... don't necessarily want to archive it for posterity

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Jazbo:

I'm running a PVR-250 and I have the problem that if I've got a light object on a dark background like a face against a dark background, the left of the face gets a little green and the right gets a little purple. You ever see that?

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briand:

a couple re-run shows in syndication, a few shows (Law & Order, CSI, etc) in prime time..

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briand:

nope.. sounds almost like a convergence issue.

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briand:

looks okay when you view that channel live, outside of Myth?

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Jazbo:

Looks fine if I view it straight through the TV (without myth/computer) but looks bad in myth recorded or live

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briand:

make sure you've got dnr_spatial, dnr_temporal, and dnr_type set to 0 in ivtv ...

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briand:

ivtvctl -a to look at the settings

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briand:

dnr_mode, as well.

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Jazbo:

yah all set to 0

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jcohen85:

i'm getting a 3–5 second glitch when i try to exit live tv or any recording. it repeats a sound over and over and stays at the last frame of video.

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jcohen85:

i'm using .18

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briand:

i dunno.. i haven't had that problem here on my 350.. but i've read discussions on the ivtv-devel list, and that's what they always suggest — turning that stuff to 0 if it isn't already

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briand:

hmm.

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briand:

when I exit LiveTV or a recording, it just exits here... but I do get a video freeze (with no audio) for a few seconds when switching channels in LiveTV. I assume that's "normal" though...

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Jazbo:

Okay so I loaded the commercial cut list in myth but I can't seem to figure out how to actually _delete_ those cuts. And I've got the documentation right in front of me

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briand:

apparently you don't delete them, as far as I can tell..

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jcohen85:

briand: that's normal on the livetv

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jcohen85:

briand: it takes a few seconds to stop & then start recording again

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briand:

the video clips are still there... but when you play it now, it'll skip over the cuts

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briand:

...and, I assume, skips during transcoding as well.

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briand:

(otherwise, what's the point? ;)

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briand:

jcohen85: yep. as i figured. thanks for confirmation, tho. :)

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Jazbo:

ah during the transcoding... IC

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jcohen85:

briand: you *can* delete them by transcoding

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briand:

right.. it skips them while it's "playing" into the transcoding s/w...

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Jazbo:

could the commercial skip during transcoding be done outside of mythtv (ie by just using transcode)?

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Jazbo:

Are the cutpoints stored in the .nuv files or are they stored somewhere else?

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briand:

umm... i don't think "commercial skip" is honored during transcoding --- whereas the cutlist _is_ honored...

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briand:

commercial skip points are in myth's SQL tables... i think the cutpoints are in the actual file

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Jazbo:

So you're saying they're both in the SQL tables and in the .nuv files?

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Jazbo:

Hmm looks like I'm going to need to learn to use mysql

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briand:

the commercial skip points are definitely in the SQL tables...

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briand:

not sure on the cutpoints... I'd think they'd be in the .NUV file itself

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briand:

I can recommend O'Reilly's "MYSQL in a Nutshell" book... it's fairly comprehensive

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Jazbo:

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briand:

it's about $40, though...

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Jazbo:

Yah the O'Reilly's are all great

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briand:

and the "full" MYSQL book from them is in the neighborhood of $70

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briand:

yes, I have a bunch of O'Reilly books... they're great.

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Jazbo:

I just worked through the awk and sed oreilly book... very useful stuff

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briand:

my former employer sent me to Oracle to learn relational database administration and programming. ;)

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briand:

so I have the MYSQL book mostly for syntax reference.

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briand:

the awk/sed book was the very first O'Reilly book I purchased.

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briand:

then the vi editor book...

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Jazbo:

awk is amazingly useful

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briand:

and so on and so on...

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briand:

if you like awk, dive into the perl stuff. you'll love it.

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briand:

easier to write than awk, and faster.

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briand:

the quote I remember is:

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Jazbo:

Yah I've been on the verge of buying a perl book for a few days now

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briand:

"If awk is the swiss army knife of unix, then perl is the swiss army chainsaw."

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Jazbo:

"There's more than one way to do it"

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Jazbo:

lol

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briand:

and, it's true.

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briand:

amazingly fast for an interpreted language... runs as fast (or faster!) than some compiled code!

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Jazbo:

hmm

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briand:

then, if you're doing web-based stuff.. PHP is the way to go... I can build a PHP page faster, that runs faster, than a c-based CGI script

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briand:

and, like perl, PHP is interpreted on-the-fly

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briand:

do you, by chance, have MythWeb installed on your system?

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briand:

that's all done in PHP. Amazing... and an extremely handy interface/utility for MythTV. I can program/monitor my MythTV box from anywhere on the internet.

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Jazbo:

don't believe so. I installed knoppmyth

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briand:

check it out.. fairly easy to set up.

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ip_goat_rodeo:

Ahhh PHP, responsible for more 0wn3d boxen than anything else on the internet...

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briand:

install apache on your mythbox and install the mythweb app

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Jazbo:

nice yah that was one of the cool features I read about before intalling

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Jazbo:

So PHP is not very secure or just common misconfigs?

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briand:

PHP is secure enough...

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ip_goat_rodeo:

history of horrible security problems

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briand:

but people often write code that isn't very secure.

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Jazbo:

seems like in 99.5% of cases a good hardware firewall will save you

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briand:

good programming and common sense are usually all that's necessary.

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briand:

yes, sometimes "exploits" are found... but if you stay up to date with security patches and such, you shouldn't have much of a problem.

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Jazbo:

gg tnx for the info brian

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briand:

no prob...

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briand:

i guess i should finish wading through my mail before ER starts... laterz, all

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briand:

[waves]

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pregier_:

so any pvr2000 users here?

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pregier_:

cx88_blackbird in general?

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EricAnderson:

Sorry, I've searched the web... how do I enable auto trasncoding???

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EricAnderson:

doh

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EricAnderson:

finally found it

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SqWaw:

Wow, I thought my mythbox was idiot proof until my father touched it :(

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SqWaw:

2005-10–06 23:06:38.178 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().

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Krazylegz:

You dad did that?!

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SqWaw:

Yea lol

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SqWaw:

he said he hit some buttons

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SqWaw:

It happens when I go to Watch TV

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SqWaw:

and look @ tty1

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SqWaw:

Anyone?

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SqWaw:

Google / the mailing lists have erroneous solutions

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Krazylegz:

There is free space on the drive for the ringbuffer?

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SqWaw:

Plenty

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SqWaw:

Well, I might as well check, is there a command for that?

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Krazylegz:

Does the file exist?

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Krazylegz:

df -h

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SqWaw:

AFAIK there is around 260GB

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SqWaw:

/dev/hda4 271G 20G 251G 8% /video

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SqWaw:

Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on

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Krazylegz:

Right, looks fine.

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SqWaw:

Yes

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SqWaw:

mythbackend.log has a bit of a mess in it

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Krazylegz:

Hmm.

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SqWaw:

http://sqwaw.com/mythbackend.log

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Krazylegz:

Wild. That's nothing to do with LiveTV, is it?

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SqWaw:

AFAIK, thats some mysql crap

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SqWaw:

and recorded stuff

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Krazylegz:

Right.

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SqWaw:

woah...

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SqWaw:

i think i got it

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SqWaw:

my tuners seem to be missing

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SqWaw:

MythTV ~ # dmesg | grep ivtv

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SqWaw:

MythTV ~ #

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SqWaw:

doesnt show a thing :(

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SqWaw:

WARNING: Can't read module ivtv: No such file or directory

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roothorick:

I'm having an indecision moment

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Krazylegz:

Roll some dice.

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roothorick:

I'm setting up a dedicated MythTV set-top box / master backend, and it's all ready except I need to get a tuner card

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Krazylegz:

They have a bot in #lanc-lug that lets you roll dice. It's neat.

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roothorick:

it's a 1Ghz Athlon, 192MB RAM, I may be able to find more RAM but it's unlikely

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roothorick:

Will I be fine with a regular frame grabber (Hauppage WinTV Go 190) or would hardware encoding be worth the extra $40 (for a Hauppage PVR-150MCE) in this case?

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Krazylegz:

Encoder board would be worth it.

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mchou:

roothorick: when you say "dedicated" that means console only, right?

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roothorick:

mchou, no WM, boots X server with MythTV directly on top

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mchou:

roothorick: it's not running X and other useless crap....

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roothorick:

er, mythfrontend

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roothorick:

well, I need X to get proper accelerated video on the vidcard (GeForce 2)

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mchou:

bah, if you use it as frontend it's at best marginal

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roothorick:

the proprietary drivers provide excellent Xv support on any kind of output

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mchou:

Geforce2 afaik doesnt support xvmc

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roothorick:

xvmc?

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mchou:

roothorick: that's not my point.

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mchou:

X requires CPU and memory resources.....

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mchou:

and so does decoding if you use it as a FE.....

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roothorick:

on top of that, it'll be running various games

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roothorick:

accelerated 3D will be a must

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mchou:

forget about it.

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mchou:

get a HW encoder.....

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alainm:

ok i think i am pretty close to finished setting up my box.. now the only issue left if when i go watch tv it's just black.. any ideas?

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roothorick:

yeah, you're right

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roothorick:

heh. this sales blurb for a PVR-150MCE mentions MythTV by name

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pregier_:

...so are most hw encoders ivtv devices then?

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SqWaw:

Krazylegz, still here?

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SqWaw:

I figured out my problem....

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Krazylegz:

Yes.

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SqWaw:

I upgraded to the latest kernel available on gentoo portage, changed the linux symlink to the new directory then ran a depmod -a

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Krazylegz:

That fixed it?

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SqWaw:

the depmod -a screwed everything up and it didn't load any of the right modules on reboot

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Krazylegz:

Ah.

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SqWaw:

So I just reversed everything then re-ran depmod 0a

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SqWaw:

-a*

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SqWaw:

For the life of me though, I cannot figure out why the modules where not loaded...

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Krazylegz:

Which modules weren't loaded?

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SqWaw:

I used the same .config file for the new kernel as I did for the last one...

[06:03:00]

SqWaw:

all of them

[06:03:00]

SqWaw:

like 14 total

[06:03:00]

SqWaw:

including necessary ones like ivtv lirc and nvidia :)

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Krazylegz:

Hmm.

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SqWaw:

so no wonder it wasn't getting any ringbuffer

[06:04:00]

SqWaw:

there were new tuner cards loaded :)

[06:04:00]

SqWaw:

i noticed ls /dev/vi* showed me nothing

[06:04:00]

SqWaw:

there was no tuner cards loaded**

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Krazylegz:

Right.

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SqWaw:

next problem is getting my remote to work

[06:05:00]

SqWaw:

irw works....

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Krazylegz:

That wasn't so bad for me.

[06:05:00]

SqWaw:

I think i almost have it...

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mchou:

anyone here a fan of House M.D. here?

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pregier_:

SqWaw: um... sorry if this is dumb, but are you sure modversions are disabled in your kernel?

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moodboom:

hey all! is anyone using a recent fc4 transcode (mine is 1.0.0–18.rhfc4.at) and getting segfaults?

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moodboom:

ive seen posts that some folks have backed up to transcode-0.6.14–1.1.fc3.rf to fix it, but mythtv and lots of other stuff count on the new version

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moodboom:

not much hair left... :>

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SqWaw:

pregier_, eh?

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pregier_:

as far as modules not working after a rebuild, you might want to check CONFIG_MODVERSIONS ; seems to help sometimes with that

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SqWaw:

naw...

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SqWaw:

it was probably something stupid i did

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SqWaw:

its okay tho

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SqWaw:

all fixed :)

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SqWaw:

my next problem is this init script...

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SqWaw:

im confused where it gets its variables

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pregier_:

don't know gentoo, but which variables?

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SqWaw:

start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec /usr/sbin/lircd ${LIRC_OPTS}

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SqWaw:

i want to make lirc_opts = -d /dev/lirc/0

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SqWaw:

so it connects to the right lirc device

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SqWaw:

Do you think "export LIRC_OPTS="-d /dev/lirc/0"" does it?

[06:26:00]

SqWaw:

or am i way off

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pregier_:

should work; i usually find the original assignment with a nice overzealous "grep -r LIRC_OPTS /etc/" myself :)

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SqWaw:

heh

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SqWaw:

-bash: grep -r LIRC_OPTS /etc/: No such file or directory

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pregier_:

?

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SqWaw:

hrmmmmm

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pregier_:

works here...

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SqWaw:

nm

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SqWaw:

i got it :)

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SqWaw:

im a retard and left a " in

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SqWaw:

but that export command, that'll word?

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pregier_:

should...

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pregier_:

which init script?

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SqWaw:

lircd

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SqWaw:

/etc/init.d/lircd

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SqWaw:

thats the line up there w/ the LIRC_OPTS variable

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SqWaw:

in my make.conf there was an LIRC_OPTS variable, its not the same thing i dont think...

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pregier_:

shouldn't be, afaik...

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SqWaw:

im going downstairs to test out the remote :)

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SqWaw:

i was doin shtuff via ssh...

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pregier_:

aha... on fedora, the line that sets those variables is apparently:

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pregier_:

[ -e /etc/sysconfig/lirc ] && . /etc/sysconfig/lirc

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pregier_:

yup, find the line that sources your conf file, and that should show you where the variable is getting set from for future reference

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Krazylegz:

Slow night.

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Dagmar:

Krazylegz: Would you happen to know anything about a "ringbuffer" in the configuration?

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Krazylegz:

Maybe. What do you want to know?

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Krazylegz:

I know something, but it might not be what you need to know. ;-)

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Danny123:

lol.. has anyone ever come into the chat room asking where Brian is?

[07:26:00]

Danny123:

I just read the topic and

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Danny123:

I just *misread the topic as "Engage Brian before asking question"

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Danny123:

:)

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** Danny123 engages brain **

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Danny123:

Is there a manual utility or such to change channel mappings? i.e. if Zap2IT thinks I have one set of channels and I have a different set (Condo administration changes the channels around) is there an easy way to redo the mapping? Whenever I redo the mapping and run mythfilldatabase afterward, things go back to the way they were..

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Krazylegz:

kormoc: Feeling better?

[07:39:00]

kormoc:

ya

[07:39:00]

Krazylegz:

That's good.

[07:39:00]

kormoc:

got a bunch of feel good pills

[07:39:00]

kormoc:

slept a ton

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Krazylegz:

Haha.

[07:39:00]

kormoc:

fever's almost gone now

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Krazylegz:

What do you have?

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kormoc:

uhh, not sure, and I'm lazy and don't wanna get up to look :P

[07:40:00]

Krazylegz:

Haha.

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Krazylegz:

I met your LUG today.

[07:40:00]

kormoc:

yeah?

[07:40:00]

Krazylegz:

Yep. We went to LBC.

[07:41:00]

kormoc:

how'd that go?

[07:41:00]

Krazylegz:

It was interesting.

[07:41:00]

Krazylegz:

I'm not as krazy as they had hoped, and they're maybe too geeky for me.

[07:41:00]

Krazylegz:

Cool guys, though.

[07:41:00]

kormoc:

hehe

[07:41:00]

kormoc:

geeky yeah, but you could get use to it easily enough

[07:42:00]

Krazylegz:

Yeah, I think so.

[07:43:00]

kormoc:

who'd you all meet?

[07:43:00]

Krazylegz:

Hmm.

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kormoc:

Mal is Lon, Einstein is Jay, Lacid is Ben, Escher is Dave, Meg is Einstein's wife, Sawblade is Mark, Keith is kdz13

[07:44:00]

Krazylegz:

Matt, Ted, Ben, Lon, (einstein), ThinkingMan, Hitiek.

[07:44:00]

kormoc:

Matt?

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Krazylegz:

Yeah, he's rarely in the channel. He works with Ben.

[07:45:00]

kormoc:

ooh, him, ya

[07:46:00]

Krazylegz:

Ben and I actually have some friends in common, sort of.

[07:46:00]

kormoc:

ya, intresting bunch.

[07:46:00]

kormoc:

yeah?

[07:46:00]

Krazylegz:

His ex-roommate and friend goes out with a girl who is friends with my girlfriend.

[07:46:00]

Krazylegz:

She is also friends with my best friend's ex-girlfriend.

[07:47:00]

Krazylegz:

Like, childhood friends.

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Cardoe:

there's that 7 degrees of seperation rule kicking in

[07:48:00]

Krazylegz:

Close. Me->girlfriend->friend->boyfriend->Ben. Just 5 degrees.

[07:48:00]

Krazylegz:

Of course, he and I didn't go to the same school or anything.

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ip_goat_rodeo:

Well, went and bought a Silverstone LC-13S for my new mythbox

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ip_goat_rodeo:

The one that looks like a high-end audio amp

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Krazylegz:

You could have put your Mythbox IN a high-end audio amp!

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** Krazylegz ponders putting his Mythbox in a guitar **

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ip_goat_rodeo:

But Silverstone cases so pretty

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ip_goat_rodeo:

all brushed aluminum

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kormoc:

Krazylegz, hehe, that's nifty

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kormoc:

welp, back to bed I go

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Dagmar:

ach! This is what I get for allowing myself to be distracted by actual work.

[08:18:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

Looks like total cost for this mythbox is going to be about $1230

[08:19:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

oh wait, $1350, didn't include power supply

[08:19:00]

Dagmar:

Hmm... You aiming for >1Tb of storage?

[08:19:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

400gb

[08:19:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

just not dicking around with cheap parts

[08:19:00]

Dagmar:

Where's all your money going?

[08:19:00]

Dagmar:

You can get 200Gb WD's for <$100

[08:19:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

fanless power supply, silverstone case, etc.

[08:19:00]

Dagmar:

Ah, you paid for the whole teeny-htpc thing then

[08:19:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

its not teeny

[08:20:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

but it is all brushed aluminum

[08:20:00]

Krazylegz:

That Silverstone case is not small, right?

[08:20:00]

Dagmar:

Then you might want to look into Antec's specifically quiet cases. They're not messing around.

[08:20:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

no, its size of a full desktop nearly

[08:21:00]

Dagmar:

I'm expecting to spend about $500 or so on mine, but then I'm mainly buying a x86–64 cpu/board/ram and putting it in my desktop, and using what I'm replacing on mine (Pro1800+ AMD, should be plenny)

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ip_goat_rodeo:

I'm also using x2 3800 cpu

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ip_goat_rodeo:

which isn't exactly cheapest cpu I could put in

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Dagmar:

I think you would be hard pressed to spend *more* money than that

[08:22:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

I learned long ago that if you skimp you end up paying for it later

[08:22:00]

Dagmar:

Are you privy to some information about multithreading going on in the myth code that I've not heard about yet?

[08:22:00]

Dagmar:

Well, there's skimping at one end, and splurging at the other.

[08:22:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

I plan to have some other stuff running on it too

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thechris:

ip_goat_rodeo: i've learned thus far that things just don't work...

[08:23:00]

thechris:

best not pay too much

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Dagmar:

I kinda think you'd be better off shaving 1/3 off the cost of those bits and getting a single-core CPU

[08:24:00]

Dagmar:

3800 by itself should be able to encode five or six streams at once

[08:24:00]

thechris:

software encoding i assume?

[08:24:00]

Dagmar:

...and if you've got a hardware accellerated compressor (pvr-250 and up I think) you're just not going to need quite that much power

[08:25:00]

thechris:

pvr150 is also HW, its just newer...

[08:25:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

This machine specced with 150, using an fx5200 for the video out.

[08:25:00]

Dagmar:

I'm putting a PVR-500 in the Athlon Pro1800+, and I expect it will have no problems recording both streams, playing one, and shipping another over the network

[08:25:00]

Agrajag-:

if you're not doing software encoding i dont htink you really need/want 2 cpus

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thechris:

i've had bad luck with mythtv and network video

[08:26:00]

thechris:

though it seems smaller video works better

[08:26:00]

Dagmar:

Good think I'm planning on using an entirely different means for video.

[08:26:00]

Dagmar:

SMB fileshares. :)

[08:26:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

I'm going to be running other stuff on this box as well, nfs server and the server-side stuff for my io-data media player.

[08:26:00]

thechris:

SMB with mplayer works better for me then mythtv

[08:26:00]

thechris:

ip_goat_rodeo: you likely won't need a dual core

[08:27:00]

thechris:

for what its work, i use powernowd and my cpu sits at 1Ghz all day

[08:27:00]

Dagmar:

ip_goat_rodeo: For what you're paying for that second core, you could easily go for a PVR-500 (dual tuner!) and still have plenty more CPU left over than you started with

[08:27:00]

** thechris wonders how low you can clock an athlon64 **

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Krazylegz:

thechris: You're still having problems?

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ip_goat_rodeo:

pvr500 not available in this market

[08:27:00]

thechris:

yeah, i'd go for the pvr500

[08:27:00]

thechris:

where?

[08:27:00]

Krazylegz:

Japan!

[08:27:00]

Krazylegz:

Ironic.

[08:27:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

cool and quiet can clock to half I believe

[08:27:00]

Dagmar:

Wow that's a little odd to say the least

[08:28:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

don't know how low if you do it manual

[08:28:00]

Dagmar:

I figured they'd have triple tuner models for sale there with a built-in card/capture/trading game

[08:28:00]

thechris:

Krazylegz: no, my problems seem to be fixed by lowering the video quality — mplayer works fine with large files, but myth just has issues

[08:28:00]

Krazylegz:

System specs?

[08:28:00]

thechris:

luckily my reception kinda sucks so theres really no difference...

[08:29:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

there are some dual-tuners around, but for the most part they use unsupported chipsets.

[08:29:00]

thechris:

both client and server at athlon64s 939's and Gbe

[08:29:00]

Krazylegz:

thechris: I mean, are system specs the problem?

[08:29:00]

Krazylegz:

Doesn't sound like it.

[08:29:00]

Dagmar:

Could be an issue with the marvel chipset (making a safe assumption) driver

[08:29:00]

thechris:

no, like i said, if it were HW related i would expect mplayer to barf on the files as well.

[08:29:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

there's one that will supposedly work with ivtv, the gv-mvp/rxw

[08:30:00]

thechris:

but i decided to recorde everything i MIGHT want to watch, and for 1 week =120Gb, i needed lower bitrates anyways

[08:30:00]

Krazylegz:

thechris: Well, it could just be that mplayer is more efficient than Myth.

[08:30:00]

thechris:

ip_goat_rodeo: maybe wait for the nvidia 6150 chipset

[08:31:00]

Dagmar:

thechris: Be warned, freebasing television leads to pale skin and atrophied muscles. ;)

[08:31:00]

thechris:

Krazylegz: thats my understanding. someone said myth does some things... though 1 second of no video is annoying and hard to justify...

[08:31:00]

thechris:

Dagmar: oh, i get a max of 3hours of TV per day

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ip_goat_rodeo:

Would be cute if the vaio/x had myth-compatable tuners.

[08:32:00]

thechris:

i just make sure it is what i want to watch

[08:32:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

if it did you'd probably never have not-enough-tuner problems (it has 6)

[08:33:00]

Krazylegz:

thechris: Wow, yours is pretty wonky.

[08:33:00]

thechris:

Krazylegz: yeah, i do have back luck with electronics

[08:34:00]

thechris:

making my BSEE degree somewhat tragic

[08:34:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

oh, the other sucky thing about mythtv in japan is no hdtv tuner cards :(

[08:34:00]

Krazylegz:

Haha.

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ip_goat_rodeo:

and I'm not spending $800 on an outboard tuner with firewire out to find out that it encrypts everything.

[08:36:00]

thechris:

i'm thinking about setting my partents up with a mythtv box

[08:36:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

be prepared to be 24/7 tech support

[08:36:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

hehehe

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thechris:

no, it won't be my computer

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thechris:

so it'll work

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ip_goat_rodeo:

I think this box will be first without-floppy machine I've built.

[08:41:00]

Dagmar:

You can get 32Mb USB sticks as party favors now

[08:43:00]

Dagmar:

There's not much sense in keeping floppies around

[08:43:00]

** Krazylegz needs to go to some of those parties **

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ip_goat_rodeo:

though booting from USB memory still takes virgin sacrifice before it works reliably

[08:44:00]

Dagmar:

Yeah just about

[08:44:00]

Krazylegz:

Plenty of those around here.

[08:44:00]

Dagmar:

I'm still treading on thin ice I think having modified my BIOS to support USB booting

[08:45:00]

Krazylegz:

Did it involve soldering?

[08:45:00]

Dagmar:

Nope. Just the use of a really sketchy looking DOS tool to unravel the BIOS into it's various components and basically inject the module from another similar board that did boot from USB

[08:46:00]

Dagmar:

I figured if it didn't work I could always do the emergency flash recovery thing

[08:47:00]

Dagmar:

powering on AMI boards while smacking the hell out of CTRL+HOME will make the thing read a floppy with amiboot.rom as the first file and flash itself.

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Dagmar:

Might as well be an entirely undocumented feature but it's save me a few headaches

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thechris:

Dagmar: i think it'll read a CD too. my POS ASUS board did at least

[08:47:00]

thechris:

it was the only redeaming feature on it

[08:48:00]

thechris:

actually that's a funny story behind that...

[08:49:00]

Dagmar:

You accidentally flash-booted your Singles 2: Flirt Up Your Life CD?

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Krazylegz:

Random.

[08:52:00]

Dagmar:

I figured that would get the story out of him, but no dice apparently.

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SlicerDicer-:

OT: does anybody know a place to buy bulk christmas lights that is cheap for bulk?

[09:04:00]

Krazylegz:

Check #christmas-lights

[09:05:00]

Dagmar:

Just about anywhere after Dec 25th

[09:05:00]

SlicerDicer-:

haha

[09:06:00]

SlicerDicer-:

I am serious I was just wondering if anybody around here buys them online :)

[09:06:00]

SlicerDicer-:

I normally get them at Ace Hardware

[09:06:00]

Krazylegz:

I'm agnostic.

[09:06:00]

SlicerDicer-:

so?

[09:06:00]

SlicerDicer-:

christmas lights are pretty :)

[09:07:00]

Krazylegz:

Haha.

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SlicerDicer-:

wana see my lights last year? Its a picture of it about 40% complete I never got the picture of the completed project I did about 10,000 bulbs last year

[09:07:00]

Krazylegz:

Sure.

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SlicerDicer-:

http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/Christmas2004.jpg

[09:08:00]

Krazylegz:

Wow. Your neighbors must hate you. :-)

[09:08:00]

SlicerDicer-:

haha

[09:08:00]

SlicerDicer-:

no they actually liked it

[09:08:00]

SlicerDicer-:

they joined in :)

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Krazylegz:

Whew, that's good.

[09:08:00]

SlicerDicer-:

yeah :) I did not run them past 11pm either

[09:08:00]

SlicerDicer-:

but this year I want to hit 50,000 lights as I live in a larger place :)

[09:09:00]

SlicerDicer-:

so I need alot more lights

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ip_goat_rodeo:

ns03# uptime

[09:09:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

4:06PM up 1603 days, 3:09, 4 users, load averages: 0.09, 0.10, 0.08

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ip_goat_rodeo:

whee

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thechris:

wow

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Krazylegz:

Nice.

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SlicerDicer-:

Krazylegz, it was so many lights last year that I blew my circuit breakers alot

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SlicerDicer-:

ip_goat_rodeo, thats got to be one unsecure box

[09:10:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

nah

[09:10:00]

SlicerDicer-:

nah my ass

[09:10:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

only port exposed to the world is 53/udp

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SlicerDicer-:

famous last words!

[09:10:00]

** SlicerDicer- grins **

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ip_goat_rodeo:

everything else firewalled out

[09:11:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

and it runs up to date bind

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Krazylegz:

Time for bed.

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Krazylegz:

I have to be fresh tomorrow so that I can wake up and take more heat from the girlfriend.

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ip_goat_rodeo:

granted, if you got access to the subnet inside the firewall that box could probably be 0wn3d about a dozen different ways

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ip_goat_rodeo:

but even inside it only has 53/udp and 22/tcp open

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Dagmar:

You probably don't need to expose 53/udp, or if you do, you should be exposing 53/tcp as well

[09:18:00]

Dagmar:

Are you running a caching nameserver for you local network segment or a customized domain (like ".kung.foo")?

[09:19:00]

Dagmar:

In the first case, of a caching nameserver, you really only need to allow for port 53/udp incoming on the local network.

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Dagmar:

Running your own zones would be the same thing, but if you're going to do something more than simple queries, you need to expose 53/tcp as well.

[09:20:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

this is a public nameserver, hosts about 1000 zones.

[09:21:00]

Dagmar:

Wow. Chroot and view-lock that baby

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Dagmar:

I guess I don't have to tell you about hte wonders of rndc. :)

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ip_goat_rodeo:

You don't want to know how long ns01/ns02 lived on FreeBSD 2.2.8

[09:22:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

We've had real good luck with our nameservers as far as failures

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Dagmar:

...or at least the script kiddies have been gentle once they got in. ;)

[09:22:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

Every one we've ever built has generated 4 years of uptime

[09:22:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

We've had machines owned, but never nameservers

[09:22:00]

Dagmar:

A couple years ago I worked at a place that had a nameserver running bind 4.7

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ip_goat_rodeo:

we run latest bind8 on our production boxes

[09:23:00]

Dagmar:

I did an audit and found out why it never went down and never seemed to get broken into, either.

[09:23:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

some minor technical issues prevented us using bind9 for a long time.

[09:23:00]

Dagmar:

Script kiddies had hacked it long ago and had been quietly patching it so they could have their three zones run off the box

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ip_goat_rodeo:

hah

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Dagmar:

I left their zones alone, but I did lock them out. ;)

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Dagmar:

I figured we owed them that much

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ip_goat_rodeo:

well, bind4 is asking for trouble, but a current bind8 is pretty safe

[09:24:00]

Dagmar:

bind9 has some nice stuff.

[09:24:00]

ip_goat_rodeo:

yah, but annoying little incompatabilities

[09:25:00]

Dagmar:

If you're creative about it you can actually take much more granular approach to who can modify what zone files

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ip_goat_rodeo:

We have all our zones in CVS and scripts push them out from a hidden master to the 4 live ones.

[09:26:00]

Dagmar:

Ah

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Dagmar:

Yeah, the pushing between 8 & 9 would give you fits

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ip_goat_rodeo:

Currently working on a rolling upgrade to bind9 (finally)

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Dagmar:

You will begin to love rndc

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ip_goat_rodeo:

lack of an rndc restart is kind of annoying

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Dagmar:

Is that missing from 8?

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Dagmar:

I thought it was there

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ip_goat_rodeo:

there is no rndc analogue for bind8's 'ndc restart'

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Dagmar:

I seem to remember that it simply did *not* work if you ran the daemon chrooted, tho

[09:30:00]

Dagmar:

Well, you don't really need to with 9

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Dagmar:

You've got reload and reconfig options that you can use

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Dagmar:

Being able to reload a single zone kicks butt

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ip_goat_rodeo:

we've got bind9 on our master and 1 of the production machines now though

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Rince:

*YES*

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Rince:

finally, nuvexport works again. And it does on a amd64 system

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ip_goat_rodeo:

oh dear, my office-mate just started updating his debian box xfree->xorg. Good thing its the friday before a 3 day weekend.

[09:42:00]

mchou:

did someone say 3 day weekend??

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mchou:

did I miss something? :)

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Captain_Murdoch_:

3-day weekend, must be a government worker or a banker.

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Captain_Murdoch_:

(and in the U.S.)

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mchou:

nope. Banks in US can not be closed any longer than two consecutive days (except maybe natural disasters) by law

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Captain_Murdoch_:

:) well, so it's a 2-day for them when at lot normally get only 1. people in the offices (ie, non-branches) probably get 3 though.

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mchou:

the government, on otoh, is completely different story :)

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Captain_Murdoch_:

government gets one every full-moon.

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Dagmar:

Banks make up for it by only opening for about 20 minutes on the third day

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mrec:

is there any way to use the dscaler filter with mythtv?

[10:01:00]

mrec:

the video quality is really bad not comparable with tvtime ..

[10:01:00]

Dagmar:

tvtime can actually use dscaler is why

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mrec:

when I tried mythtv on my mediasystem it was very very slow :(

[10:03:00]

mrec:

also xmltv didn't work for me.. it just didn't grab any channel (but that's another project I know)

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mrec:

I just wonder why the menu is still that slow

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mrec:

it's a 2ghz machine a few years ago I achieved a better speed on a 12mhz 286 pc for a plain menu

[10:05:00]

mrec:

any idea what could be wrong there?

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mchou:

mrec: lol

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Watje:

how can I restore the 'settings' table?

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rage-:

just a guess, but go into mysql and make a backup copy of the settings table, delete the settings table, and run mythfilldatabase?

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BockBilbo:

hello

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BockBilbo:

can you guys tell me if the logitech harmony remote control works under linux?

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BockBilbo:

and if it works with mythtv?

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Dagmar:

BockBilbo: If it works with lirc is all that matters

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BockBilbo:

ok

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BockBilbo:

thanks

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BockBilbo:

Dagmar, any suggestion?

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Dagmar:

Suggestion for what?

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Dagmar:

Either you have the proper hardware or you dont.

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BockBilbo:

Dagmar, i havent bought the hardware yet

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Dagmar:

Creating your own configuration file for that remote is going to be the painful part, and you'll have to read the lirc documentation to learn how to do that, or *go buy a remote for which someone already has a working configuration file*

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BockBilbo:

ok

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Dagmar:

I suggest unless you're really wanting to spend lots of money, just go get one of the One For All PVR remotes.

[12:27:00]

Dagmar:

http://www.ofausa.com/remote.php?type=URC6131n for example

[12:27:00]

Dagmar:

I got one for $12 last week.

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laga:

BockBilbo: well, logitech has this website where you can upload configurations on your remote.

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laga:

BockBilbo: and there are some configs for mythtv. just search the ML archive

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BockBilbo:

ok

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Dagmar:

Basically, anything is preferable to trying to craft your own configuration file.

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BockBilbo:

thanks Dagmar, laga ill take a look on everything you guys said :)

[12:29:00]

BockBilbo:

i gotta go

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BockBilbo:

:) bye!

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Dagmar:

I picked the configurable model because if nothing else, I can tell it to pretend to be any one of the models of remotes for which there is already a working configuration file.

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laga:

bye

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Dagmar:

I'd really hoped to get my hands on a model with the death-ray option, but no such luck. Wal-Mart was out of stock on those.

[12:35:00]

laga:

death-ray?

[12:36:00]

laga:

for when the kids interrupt your TV experience?

[12:36:00]

Dagmar:

Yeah, you know, you point at someone and they die.

[12:36:00]

laga:

that's very spiffy.

[12:36:00]

Dagmar:

Actually, for when I feel like saying something bizarre.

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laga:

oh, good.

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simon_c:

Humm. ebuyer UK are stocking the Microsoft OEM mediac enter remote control +reciever for £23.20.

[12:36:00]

simon_c:

Anyone know if this works with lirc ? ;-)

[12:37:00]

Dagmar:

The modification/replacement of the red LED below the master power button with a green one (blue is overdone now) went swimmingly tho

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Dagmar:

simon_c: Dude, basically every remote bar a few bizarre/broken ones will potentially work with LIRC.

[12:37:00]

laga:

blue LEDs are overrated anyways.

[12:37:00]

laga:

Dagmar: the microsoft remote has its own receiver as far as i remember

[12:37:00]

Dagmar:

However, if you don't want to undergo some serious frustration, you will purchase a remote for which you have already noted an existing configuration

[12:37:00]

Dagmar:

laga: It'

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simon_c:

Dagmar: The connectors look like mini-phono though, so I'm not sure where they are supposed to plug into. I've a FE box that needs a remote. No TV card in it.

[12:38:00]

Dagmar:

laga: It's IR, isn't it?

[12:38:00]

laga:

Dagmar: i think so, but i'm not sure. the remote should work with an homebrew receiver, but it would be nice to use the provided usb receiver as well.

[12:38:00]

mchou:

Dagmar: is that ofa remote JP1 programmable?

[12:39:00]

Dagmar:

simonc: Generally the fact that the thing has a phono plug isn't significant of much. It usually just means that the receiever element is really, really cheap--as in little more than the element mounted onto a convenient connector.

[12:39:00]

Dagmar:

mchou: If I feel like soldering one in there and installing the prom chip is it

[12:39:00]

Dagmar:

s/is it/it is

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mchou:

Dagmar: bah....

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simon_c:

Dagmar: I'm just wondering where I would connect it to on my box.

[12:39:00]

Dagmar:

As it stands I don't think that's really necessary.

[12:39:00]

mchou:

installing a prom chip?

[12:39:00]

mchou:

what good is that? :)

[12:39:00]

Dagmar:

simon_c: You wouldn't. You'd likely just go get a cheap serial IR reciever

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Dagmar:

mchou: I was under the impression that without it the remote won't be able to remember much of anything new.

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mchou:

Dagmar: the remote should already have prom installed

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simon_c:

Dagmar: Ahhh. Finding on of those seems to be the problem for me here in the UK. I was considering building one, and then came across this link on ebuyer http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index . . . ct_uid=77109

[12:40:00]

Dagmar:

I'm using a serial reciever that came with a rather ancient AST/Logitech remote that was so spectacularly frelled that the signal's timing was unstable by about 200%

[12:41:00]

Dagmar:

simonc: They are *dead easy* to make

[12:41:00]

simon_c:

Dagmar: I'll try that then. I need to make a transmitter for my other box too to control the sky+ box

[12:41:00]

Dagmar:

I got really peeved that nothing seemed to work with the remote and scribbled up something to actually analyze the signal it was spitting out.

[12:41:00]

mchou:

Dagmar: huh?? What was wrong with the AST/Logitech remote?

[12:42:00]

mchou:

works fine for me here :)

[12:42:00]

Dagmar:

mchou: The remote was trash. The pulse lengths varied by as much as 300–400% at times.

[12:42:00]

mchou:

lol. All remotes have varing pulse lengths

[12:42:00]

Dagmar:

All the other remotes I've got were sending a reliably stable signal with a deviation of about 5% at most

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mchou:

varying*

[12:42:00]

mchou:

bah.

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Dagmar:

mchou: I'm aware they have varying pulse length, but to put it another way...

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Dagmar:

If you pushed a button, and the signal went high for 283ms, then low for 21ms, then high for 843ms...

[12:43:00]

Dagmar:

...and then you did it again, you'd get a whole 'nother *wildly* varying set of numbers.

[12:44:00]

mchou:

bah....

[12:44:00]

Dagmar:

The proportion of the pulse lengths did not stay constant even within a single continuous button press

[12:44:00]

mchou:

I had no such issues

[12:44:00]

Dagmar:

You had a remote that wasn't shot

[12:44:00]

mchou:

must have

[12:45:00]

Dagmar:

This remote was basically emitting a crude form of white noise. ;)

[12:45:00]

mchou:

you ever take it apart?

[12:45:00]

Dagmar:

Yep.

[12:45:00]

Dagmar:

Not much in it, but then I only paid $8 for the lot so I didn't feel bad about chucking it

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mchou:

did it have an ir module in it, and if so, who made it?

[12:46:00]

Dagmar:

It had an emitter in it. I remember seeing a low profile crystal, two ICs, and a smattering of resistors

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mchou:

hmm, maybe I ought to take mine apart.....

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Dagmar:

The reciever unit looks like they designed it to be used as a transciever but at the last minute took the emitter element and components out

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mchou:

Dagmar: or they just didnt bother populating it......

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Dagmar:

Took them out of the design I mean

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mchou:

hmm???

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mchou:

how could you tell that?

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Dagmar:

I originally thought the problem was in the reciever (which is why I opened it to see what the hell it was wired to do) and then after that I got to seriously looking at what was coming out of the remote itself

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Dagmar:

mchou: Well, for one, the lack of any signs of components being desoldered and removed. There's space and stencil marks on the PCB in there, and there's extra unused wires connecting to the serial connector

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Dagmar:

it's got space for an emitter right next to the reciever and a bit of a space for what's probably a baffle to go between them (to stop ringing)

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mchou:

shit, now you really got me interested in taking mine apart

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Dagmar:

I'm going to rip the thing open again soon, once I get the new case in

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mchou:

but mine works :)

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Dagmar:

there's this case Newegg has on special with an illuminated semi-sphere on the front that looks to be about an inch and a half across

[12:51:00]

Dagmar:

Oh mine works fine

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Dagmar:

The *remote* went into the trash long ago, but I knew the reciever element works fine. All it does is throw some of hte serial pins high/low

[12:52:00]

Dagmar:

I'm going to crack open the reciever bit and stick it in behind that transparent sphere bit

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Dagmar:

I figure that the odds of it being IR-opaque are probably really, really low

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mchou:

maybe

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Dagmar:

How often do you find clear plastic that isn't IR-transparent?

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Dagmar:

Considering I don't want a beige plastic anything hanging on the top of the box when it's done, I figure this is the best way (short of modifying a ceramic gnome of some kind) of removing the IR reciever from obvious view

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mchou:

yeah, makes sense

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mchou:

but you dont necessarily NEED a plastic cover

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Dagmar:

Well, I definitely don't want little tiny electronic bits sticking out

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mchou:

bah, just have a hole for the sensors

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Dagmar:

Everything I've seen for sale from places like DigiKey and RadioShack look pretty bulky and hideous, and I'm not particularly interested in doing something with an epoxy mould

[12:57:00]

Dagmar:

Hole == bad.

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mchou:

lol

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Dagmar:

It would mean less than 180-degrees of sensitivity

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mchou:

bah.....

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Dagmar:

The plastic half-sphere on the other hand, should pretty much guarantee that no matter where in the room I am or where the remote is pointed, it's going to see it

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mchou:

then use an led waveguide

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Dagmar:

...so long as I'm not directly behind the thing or something

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Dagmar:

Besides, the case in question is $31, and that's with 300W PS

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Kaetzchen:

a number of electronic camera lenses block IR, because it can blind the sensor.

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Dagmar:

Yeah, this wasn't designed to be a lens, so I figure it will probably be pretty boring plastic

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Dagmar:

What I'd really like to find are somewhere that sells the color-changing LED arrays all by themselves.

[13:01:00]

mchou:

my surplus store carries them.

[13:01:00]

Dagmar:

I can't find them online anywhere, unless, of course, I buy a case with some in there to make the bubble piping change color

[13:02:00]

Dagmar:

That's a bit overkill. They can't cost more than $2–3 apiece

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Dagmar:

Frankly, I figure putting four or five of them in random places inside the case should make it really hurt the eyes to look inside

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BockBilbo:

hello again

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BockBilbo:

:)

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simon_c:

Hummmm. This looks like a good contorl http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo= . . . m10&QV=P It's USB. Any ideas if I can get it working with lirc ?

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GreyFoxx:

That is one of the ugliest (imho) remotes I've ever seen.

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k0rnz:

hi i'm trying to put together a mythtv htpc system. My current video card I have is Nvidia TNT RIVA 16mb card. Will this work?

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Icks:

will the card work in fedora core? or gentoo?

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k0rnz:

Yes it does

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k0rnz:

it works in Fedora Core 3 and 4

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GreyFoxx:

I know that support for some of the older cards was dropped by the official nvidia drivers. I'm not sure exactly which though

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simon_c:

GreyFoxx: I thought it looked OK.

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k0rnz:

i'm just trying to throw together a cheap linux based htpc system using Hauppauge PVR-150

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GreyFoxx:

simon_c: hence why I added "imho" :)

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simon_c:

:-)

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simon_c:

Do you know if a USB remote like that would work with lirc though ?

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simon_c:

Anyway, I think the remote on this card is worse. http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo= . . . amp;doy=7m10

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GreyFoxx:

I don't use lirc with my remotes, so I really can't comment on what exactly it supports

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GreyFoxx:

And I agree that is worse :)

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BockBilbo:

hello

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BockBilbo:

ive just bought the Plextor Convert X USB Capturer. Ive installed mythtv and the driver from http://oss.wischip.com/ but i cant still watch tv, can anyone help me out?

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jcb:

do anyone know whats to expect of the next release and if it will happen this year. ive looked at http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/UnderDevelopment, but its not been updated since v0.18

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KaZeR:

anyone using pvr350's tvout?

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KaZeR:

jcb, you may want to have a look there : http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/roadmap

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jcb:

KaZeR: i am

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KaZeR:

fine :)

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KaZeR:

i saw three variants of the driver thing. which one are you using?

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jcb:

the lastest

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KaZeR:

Driver "ivtv-fb" ? Driver "ivtvdev"

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Icks:

i used it for a while, didn't really understand why anyone would so changed back to vid card

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KaZeR:

yeah sorry i shall i precised that i'm talking about xorg.conf :D

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jcb:

KaZeR: sec

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KaZeR:

Icks, i'm building a mythbox for a friend, but his athlon 700 sux at playing video. i hope to get better performances on TV out

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jcb:

KaZeR: ivtvdev

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KaZeR:

jcb, pal or ntsc ?

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Icks:

ahhh, slow cpu then..

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jcb:

KaZeR: as far as i remember ivtv-fb is the old name

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jcb:

KaZeR: pal

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KaZeR:

jcb, grats. :D may i have your xorg.conf file?

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jcb:

sure

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KaZeR:

Icks, do you think it would work?

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jcb:

KaZeR: it doesnt use any cpu ressources

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Icks:

i have had mythtv on 4 different boxes i think but never under a 2 gig cpu

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KaZeR:

fine :) that's exacltly what i need :)

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toresbe:

Anyone know how to adjust the global settings?

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Icks:

it worked fine when i had it working.. just didn't see a need for it

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toresbe:

global picture settings, sorry

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toresbe:

Like, brightness, etc

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jcb:

KaZeR: i have one major problem though.. the picture from the pvr350 tv-out is overscanned

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jcb:

jcb: so im missing the left and right edges of the picture. enough to make it annoying and disturbing

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KaZeR:

mmm. i hope i won't have this :)

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KaZeR:

well. (EE) Failed to load module "ivtvdev" (module does not exist, 0)

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jcb:

the last message was ment for KaZeR and not myself ;-)

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KaZeR:

we all understood i think :)

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jcb:

KaZeR: u have to copy the driver to the right place

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jcb:

KaZeR: its documentated in the driver's README

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KaZeR:

mmm, i followed the wiki at www.ivtv.info.. didn't saw that

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KaZeR:

ok thanks

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KaZeR:

i'll read it more carefully :)

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KaZeR:

i think that the wiki may be outdated :)

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jcb:

it is

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jcb:

the documentation of ivtv is not very structured

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KaZeR:

hehe that's so true.

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jcb:

just stick to the text files in the driver package :)

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KaZeR:

ugly but effective :)

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jcb:

yep

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KaZeR:

the doc says : driver ivtv

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KaZeR:

no sorry fbdev

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BockBilbo:

is it possible to build mythtv with esound support?

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GreyFoxx:

*ring ring* " Ok, mythfrontend crashed, how do I restart it? " hehehe I wont tell it didn't crash but I killed it not realizing she was using it :)

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GreyFoxx:

I should have looked at he frontends output a little closer when I killed it to do a make install :)

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jcb:

KaZeR: i cant remember the naming issue anymore

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jcb:

KaZeR: but at some point the name of the driver changed

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KaZeR:

jcb, yep. it seems that no file moving is needed anymore.

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KaZeR:

no it's a matter of busid

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jcb:

ok

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KaZeR:

lspci gave : 0000:00:0b.0, i put BusID "00:0x0b:0" but it doesn"t work.

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KaZeR:

0x is needed , right?

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KaZeR:

i saw you didn't put it

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KaZeR:

mmm doesn't work without neither

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jcb:

i need to power up my htpc to see how the address should be read

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KaZeR:

mmm i think that i try to put my both screens in framebuffer mode.

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KaZeR:

i commented the server layout part related to my standard monitor, and now i have :

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KaZeR:

(EE) FBDEV(0): mmap fbmem: Invalid argument

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KaZeR:

(EE) FBDEV(0): Map vid mem failed

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Lightnin:

Anyone know what happened to bugzilla?

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GreyFoxx:

Gone

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GreyFoxx:

use svn.mythtv.org/trac now

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GreyFoxx:

The link hasn't been updated

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Lightnin:

Thanks. Was browsing around the website trying to determine if I wanted to get a box setup and see about doing some actual development on it but wanted to see where things stood

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GreyFoxx:

Check out the -dev mailing list, and http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/FutureDevelopment

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Lightnin:

thanks. I'll jot those down as I'll be busy this weekend. It looks like there is actual work going on although the main mythtv.org website gives the impression of nothing for the last 5 months

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GreyFoxx:

That's because there hasn't been a release since may

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GreyFoxx:

There is no push by the devs to get out a "release"

[16:15:00]

** Beirdo releases a grunt **

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Beirdo:

good morning all

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GreyFoxx:

It'll be good once my lunch arrives

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Lightnin:

from one of the entries i saw, they dont like updating the main site and being the bugzilla links still exist, it doesnt help. End up looking like it died more than "here is the current work"

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GreyFoxx:

Lightnin: That link really should be removed/updated. But you are right, the main site only gets updated when are release is done

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Lightnin:

anyways. Thanks for the proper link. I'm sure i'll have more Qs later on. In the process of buying a house and want to put a setup together once that has settled down and see if I can contribute to the code

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GreyFoxx:

cool :)

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Lightnin:

Any recommendations of hardware to checkout or look into before I jump thru too many hoops?

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GreyFoxx:

That depends on lot on what you are going to be doing. Analog capture or looking to use HDTV? That question would affect several parts

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KaZeR:

hi Beirdo. remember nuvexport, mpeg detection and non english mplayer? LANG=en_US nuvexport didn't work :/

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Beirdo:

awww

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Beirdo:

export LANG=en_US

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Beirdo:

nuvexport

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Beirdo:

maybe?

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Beirdo:

or maybe mplayer ignores lang?

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KaZeR:

i'm trying this export thing...

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Lightnin:

Not sure yet. Have to see if a HDTV is in my pricerange after the house. If it is then HDTV

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BockBilbo:

im using ubuntu breezy's mythtv 0.18 package and when running mythtv-setup it says it cannot connect to the mysql DB... and I've checked that the mythtv username and schema is already defined on the mysql db

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BockBilbo:

does anyone know what happens?

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KaZeR:

BockBilbo, mysql started?

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KaZeR:

BockBilbo, backend and frontend on the same computer?

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BockBilbo:

KaZeR, mysql started, yes

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BockBilbo:

and its everythin on the same computer too

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BockBilbo:

*everything

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KaZeR:

BockBilbo, mysql -u mythtv -p

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BockBilbo:

mmm it seens that the password defined by the ubuntu package isnt mythtv

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KaZeR:

it should be mythconverg i think

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KaZeR:

oh no. default is mythtv

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BockBilbo:

yeah.. and doesnt work

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Lightnin:

mysql -u root -p then check the users table to see what is defined

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KaZeR:

you can reset it

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Lightnin:

that too. ignore me :P

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BockBilbo:

how do i reset it KaZeR

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BockBilbo:

im using the mysql administrator program

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KaZeR:

Lightnin, login as root is a good idea to reset it :)

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BockBilbo:

(the gtk program)

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KaZeR:

BockBilbo, nah, this is for kids ;)

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BockBilbo:

xDDD

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KaZeR:

mysql -u root -p

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BockBilbo:

ok

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KaZeR:

use mysql;

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KaZeR:

select user, password,host from user;

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BockBilbo:

wow

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Lightnin:

i didnt think of resetting, just finding out what user was used

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BockBilbo:

this is a wierd password

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Lightnin:

passwords are encrypted

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Lightnin:

or should be

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BockBilbo:

i see

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BockBilbo:

yeah, they are

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BockBilbo:

how do i decrypt them?

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KaZeR:

you can't :)

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Lightnin:

you dont. i cant recall the way to encrypt a new password to it at the moment (deal with too many databases at work)

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KaZeR:

but you can change it : update user set password=PASSWORD('whatever') where user='mythtv';

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KaZeR:

PASSWORD will generate a md5-encrypted pass

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Lightnin:

i'll let kazer handle it. he's got the mysql commands down more than i do (oracle here at work)

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BockBilbo:

alright

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KaZeR:

after that, flush privileges; and you're done

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KaZeR:

Lightnin, i haven't touched oracle since a few years :)

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Lightnin:

the only mysql i've done is messing around at the house. Work uses oracle for our database backend (and VB for the front end :( to run hardware)

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KaZeR:

VB...

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KaZeR:

uh

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KaZeR:

it hurts :)

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Lightnin:

KaZeR, yes it does. it hurts alot to bend it into controlling hardware

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Lightnin:

but the head of software dev pays me well to do it so VB by day, C/C++ at night

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thanius:

Hey, I've got a problem. I just recently bought a PVR-150 MCE so that I could record TV onto my harddrive, I've installed it according to most howtos out there. The ivtv modules load perfectly without warnings or errors, and I do get a static image when I mplayer /dev/video0. But it seems that I cannot change channel using supplied tools? Anyone's got a success with PVR-150 MCE PAL here?

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thanius:

Xawtv and TV-time doesn't seem to like my card, btw

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thanius:

Any suggestions?

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GreyFoxx:

thanius: Neither of those apps work with the PVR cards

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KaZeR:

Lightnin, hehe.

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KaZeR:

jcb, you back?

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GreyFoxx:

Or at least, xawtv definately doesn't. And last time I looked TVTime didn't

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thanius:

awright, know any app that supports it that lets me change channels? :)

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KaZeR:

i agree with greyfox, they are frame grabber specific

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GreyFoxx:

Myth ? :)_

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KaZeR:

myth or mplayer :

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KaZeR:

:)

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thanius:

It crashes on me

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KaZeR:

and change channels with pvtune-ui

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thanius:

(I just can't seem to get it right, can I? :P)

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KaZeR:

mplayer crashes or myth?

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thanius:

myth

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thanius:

and ptune wants to include frequencies.pm

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thanius:

where the eff that is

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KaZeR:

hehe

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KaZeR:

thanius, which distro?

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thanius:

gentoo

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KaZeR:

fine.

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thanius:

I'm emerging the perl-modules

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thanius:

:)

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thanius:

Let's see if I can get some image out of this card

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KaZeR:

thanius, dev-perl/Video-Frequencies is what you're looking for (masked)

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thanius:

yeah

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thanius:

I just found it

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KaZeR:

:)

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thanius:

and what about these darn masks, anyways? Almost every app I use is masked. :P

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thanius:

"I heard that it crashed once in Argentina, better mask it"

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thanius:

:P

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KaZeR:

just echo dev-perl/Video-Frequencies >> /etc/portage/package.keywords :)

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KaZeR:

lol hehe

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KaZeR:

true that sometimes it's long before unmasking.

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KaZeR:

but it has to be stable for everyone :)

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Beirdo:

then you should mask all of Linux

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KaZeR:

hehe :)

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Beirdo:

nothing is stable for everyone

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Beirdo:

well, maybe /bin/ls

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thanius:

I'm emerging Video-Freq and Video-ivtv

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Beirdo:

heh

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KaZeR:

Beirdo, you got my meaning, don't play with words ;)

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thanius:

hehe, and probably 'cd' as well

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KaZeR:

thanius, you can switch your whole system to ~x86 if you wish.

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Rince:

Beirdo: I found the problem in nuvexport

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Beirdo:

goood

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jonK:

hello, I have 7gb of free space left for myth recordings, could someone help me understand what autoexpire will do when it runs out of space completely?

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Beirdo:

jonK: delete stuff of course

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Beirdo:

once it hits the threshold you set

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KaZeR:

Beirdo, export LANG didn't work either btw

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jonK:

delete everything that's set to autoexpire? or just the oldest?

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Beirdo:

and maybe you should just go delete stuff yourself :)

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Beirdo:

ah

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Beirdo:

dunno, KaZeR. it's how to get mplayer to speak English that will be the core issue, I guess

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KaZeR:

Beirdo, right.

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jonK:

for example, my tivo will delete the oldest shows to free up enuogh space for whatever is going to be recorded

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jcb:

KaZeR: lspci output 0000:02:09.0 and i added BusID "2:9:0"

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thanius:

jonK: Tivo is smart.

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Beirdo:

jonK: I think it will delete from the oldest that's allowed to be expired

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Beirdo:

if you set expire never, it won't expire it

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KaZeR:

jcb, thanks.

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Beirdo:

or you could just not let it get full :)

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jonK:

I like the idea of it getting full and just deleting the oldest to record new

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jonK:

without my intervention

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Beirdo:

well, I hope your filesystem likes being full then

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jcb:

KaZeR: i guess yours should be BusID "0:b:0"

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Beirdo:

xfs gets squirrelly at 95% full or so, if I remember right

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KaZeR:

jonK, advantage is you can choose if a show shall expire or not. usefull for the things you record but don't really care about

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Beirdo:

so set your threshold so your filesystem doesn't scream :)

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jonK:

using JFS running over LVM

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jonK:

mythfiles on seperate partiiton

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Beirdo:

dunno how jfs behaves near 100% full

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thanius:

Gotta love perl.

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Beirdo:

something to watch out for though

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Rince:

Beirdo: with the latest "cvs"-version, there isn't anymore a problem with the parameters in order, but they don't accept "-hq" anymore. So I removed it in $NUVEXPORT/share/ffmpeg.pm (line 149) and now it works even with amd64

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Beirdo:

ah, good

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jonK:

well it should fill today, I'll report anything strange that occurs

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Beirdo:

make sure to update the ticket and let xris know when he's around

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KaZeR:

jcb, now i have : (EE) FBDEV(0): mmap fbmem: Invalid argument

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KaZeR:

(EE) FBDEV(0): Map vid mem failed

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Beirdo:

stupid ffmpeg always changing shit

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Rince:

Beirdo: did that already; but the ticket is given to you automatically )

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

I know

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jcb:

KaZeR: i dont know that error message

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Rince:

but I'll try to tell him as soon as I see him

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Beirdo:

I can't do anything about it this weekend if I tried, I'll be at my dad's for thanksgiving

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KaZeR:

jcb, thanks for you help anyhow :) i'm using fbdev as stated in the doc. do you remember this file copy thing with ivtvdev ?

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Rince:

Beirdo: no problem for me. I can finally put everything on dvd, that was my goal :)

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Beirdo:

coool

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Beirdo:

good :)

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Beirdo:

I'm glad you were able to hunt that down

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Beirdo:

it's the problem of using 3rd party tools that keep changing on us

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Rince:

Beirdo: no problem. You gave me a huge help in the hints what it _could_ be, so I just had to follow them

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thanius:

Awright, got the tuning to work

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thanius:

What about the audio now?

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Beirdo:

glad I could be of some use, Rince :)

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jonK:

right now myth repoprts "450 programs, using 588 GB out of 596 GB

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thanius:

Do I still need a cable to my soundcard?

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thanius:

Cheez.

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Beirdo:

thanius: not with a PVR-150

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thanius:

Then, what is it?

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Beirdo:

it will record the audio in the stream for you

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Beirdo:

assuming you have your drivers all right

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jcb:

KaZeR: nope, its been too long

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thanius:

Beirdo: And how do I know that? There's no sound? :D

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thanius:

checking out the dev-mailinglist for ivtv

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KaZeR:

jcb, ok np

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thanius:

changed the audio input to #1, I'm only getting this hissing sound

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thanius:

Anyone got any idea on how to get the sound to work?

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BockBilbo:

KaZeR, i stil ge the same "cannot connect to mysql db"

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BockBilbo:

:S

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KaZeR:

BockBilbo, does it works as mysql -u mythtv -p ?

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BockBilbo:

no

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BockBilbo:

ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES)

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KaZeR:

did you 'flush privileges;' ?

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BockBilbo:

mm nope... i had the mysql configuration stablished by the ubuntu package

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BockBilbo:

where should i do that? as root using the mysql db?

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KaZeR:

when logged as root in mysql. this is needed for new user rights to be taken in account.

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KaZeR:

or just restart mysql service

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BockBilbo:

now i can acces like mysql -u mythtv -p

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KaZeR:

sounds good. myth should work too then

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watje:

how do I restore the settings table?

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BockBilbo:

Kaetzchen, but dont have acces to mythtvconverg: ERROR 1044: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' to database 'mythtvconverg'

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KaZeR:

BockBilbo, mysql -u root -p < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql

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KaZeR:

did you run that previously?

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BockBilbo:

no

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KaZeR:

that's why :)

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** Beirdo slaps BockBilbo with a trout **

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KaZeR:

db isn't created, nor is the user

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Beirdo:

RTFM, dude :)

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KaZeR:

lol

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BockBilbo:

well

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BockBilbo:

they are created

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BockBilbo:

!

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BockBilbo:

and that file doesnt exist

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KaZeR:

Beirdo is right here. one of the first things to do (RTFM, and run this cmd :)

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BockBilbo:

ubuntu package has created both the db and the user

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KaZeR:

oh yeah ubuntu. it's gentoo's path.

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KaZeR:

well, find that mc.sql, and source it into mysql :)

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** Beirdo waits for his linode to finish moving 300 pictures from one album to another **

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KaZeR:

or It Won't Work (tm)

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BockBilbo:

/usr/share/mythtv/sql/mc.sql

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KaZeR:

sounds good

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Beirdo:

that would likely be the one :)

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BockBilbo:

ERROR 1007 at line 1: Can't create database 'mythconverg'. Database exists

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BockBilbo:

i told you it was created!

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BockBilbo:

;)

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KaZeR:

wipe it then :)

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BockBilbo:

should i grant all privileges to 'mythtv'@'localhost' ?

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** Beirdo hands KaZeR a trout **

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KaZeR:

you can. but if i were you i'd 'drop database mythconverg' , then source the file, then 'flush privileges'

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KaZeR:

thanks Beirdo

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BockBilbo:

ok

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** KaZeR is ready to slap. you're warned **

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KaZeR:

:)

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KaZeR:

oh well.

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KaZeR:

i feel so good doing that :D

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Beirdo:

heh

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** KaZeR hands Beirdo his trout. **

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Beirdo:

hehe

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KaZeR:

thanks, it's handy, keep it under hand :)

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BockBilbo:

xD

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KaZeR:

BockBilbo, any progress? i'm leaving in 10 minutes.

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BockBilbo:

im about to flush privileges

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Rince:

Starting ffmpeg.

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Rince:

processed: 10028 of 0 frames (0.00%), 0.00 fps

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Rince:

Hmmm :-) something is counting wrong there

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Beirdo:

yes

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Beirdo:

heh

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Rince:

but apparently it still works, so I won't complain

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KaZeR:

Beirdo, btw, transcode is awfully slow theses times, i heard about a 30% idle limit, anything we can do to transcode faster?

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BockBilbo:

done

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Beirdo:

I forget where the total number comes from for ffmpeg, i think from ffmpeg output

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BockBilbo:

should i restart mysql daemon?

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Beirdo:

transcode in myth itself?

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Beirdo:

I don't use it

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thanius:

Hrm.

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BockBilbo:

workd

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BockBilbo:

finally ! thanks Kaetzchen

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KaZeR:

Beirdo, nop, with nuvexport (maybe transcode isn't the right name, but it's slow :)

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BockBilbo:

i mean KaZeR

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KaZeR:

np dude :)

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thanius:

It seems that modprobing ivtv doesn't include saa2127 or 2115

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thanius:

Are they needed?

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Beirdo:

KaZeR: hmm, it will always be slow, the tools aren't fast, especially with denoising on

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BockBilbo:

sorry for wasting away your time

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BockBilbo:

:S

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KaZeR:

BockBilbo, hehe no pb, or i would have sent you to hell :)

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KaZeR:

Beirdo, i remember doing around 18 fps some months ago. no i'm stuck at 7, even with denoising off

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Chutt:

yay, new hardware to play with

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ol_schoola:

hey al

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ol_schoola:

all

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KaZeR:

damn what's the name of ivtv-dev in 0.3.8? i found nothing in utils/

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KaZeR:

hi Chutt && ol_schoola

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ol_schoola:

dunno, using a 350 so i haven't jumped to 3

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KaZeR:

ol_schoola, i'm using a 350 too, and everything works fine excepted my tv-out. but jcb has it working

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ol_schoola:

i'm thinking of going to SVN from 18.1 rpm on FC4...

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ol_schoola:

but i'm still fairly noob and prefer rpms

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ol_schoola:

any advice on rolling my own?

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KaZeR:

oh well. xdriver seems to be separated now.

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KaZeR:

rolling your rpm?

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ol_schoola:

yup

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KaZeR:

from svn?

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ol_schoola:

yup

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ol_schoola:

i suppose i oughta sub to atrpms-devel first

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KaZeR:

bad idea imo, if using svn you should recompile from svn often :)

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ol_schoola:

but shouldn't that be easy enough to re-roll after i have it working?

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KaZeR:

erm, i haven't touched rpm for a long time now.

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KaZeR:

but you should, yes.

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KaZeR:

ask maybe in a FC channel

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ol_schoola:

glutton for punishment i guess :)

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ol_schoola:

maybe i will just go with straight compiles

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ol_schoola:

managed ok just before 18 landed but went back to packages out of laziness

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ol_schoola:

i was reviewing yestaerdays channel logs

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ol_schoola:

and read about the guy who just started irc for the first time

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ol_schoola:

lmao, i too landed on the net around 90

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ol_schoola:

and just started using chat about nine months ago

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KaZeR:

you plan to redistribute?

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Icks:

hmm, i started using irc because of everquest

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BockBilbo:

KaZeR, is it possible to listen to mythtv using the esound daemon?

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ol_schoola:

KaZer: of course

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KaZeR:

ol_schoola, people wanting SVN version should compile their own imo..

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ol_schoola:

i've got the cycles and time to spare, may just as well if i can automate

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KaZeR:

ol_schoola, LAN users? or wan?

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KaZeR:

BockBilbo, don't know about that.

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BockBilbo:

thanks

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KaZeR:

hehe. this one didn't cost much :)

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ol_schoola:

can you rephrasre the ? KaZer? not sure what you're asking

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KaZeR:

ol_schoola, who do you plan to redistribute too? LAN users? or over internet?

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ol_schoola:

initially LAN

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ol_schoola:

if it were predictably working, i could arrange something with Axel at his repo in Bleeding

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KaZeR:

ol_schoola, just because if it's for lan, keep using SVN and compile with distcc. usefull.

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** KaZeR isn't very fond of packages :) **

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ol_schoola:

understandable

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ol_schoola:

man am I pissed at Fry's

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ol_schoola:

had a family member pick up a 300Gb seagate from Fry's

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ol_schoola:

'twas my depression-era mom

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ol_schoola:

she couldn't resist the Reduced-by-$7.00 markdown

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ol_schoola:

last time i ask her to p/u a piece of hardware

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ol_schoola:

but i live > 1 hour away from the Illinois store and she's right there

[17:51:00]

ol_schoola:

big mistake

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ol_schoola:

stat bag seal was broke, no docs, no diag disk

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ol_schoola:

thre it into a box for the helluvit and it sounded like a cat in a washing machine

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ol_schoola:

threw

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KaZeR:

oh damn. i'm late. sorry, gotta run

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ol_schoola:

later KaZer

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ChanServ sets mode +v xris

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Beirdo:

morning, xris

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xris:

morning

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** Beirdo mumbles about crappy Seattle weather in Toronto **

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Beirdo:

and on the day I'm walking with two backpacks to the bus station

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Beirdo:

go figure

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ol_schoola:

and I thought Seattle weather was vacationing in Chicago this week

[18:34:00]

Beirdo:

I guess it decided to visit the CN Tower for the day

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BockBilbo:

hey again

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ol_schoola:

my sump pump has been on overdrive this week

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Beirdo:

mine's fine, I live on the 14th floor :)

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Beirdo:

mmmm, BB King & Eric Clapton

[18:38:00]

** toresbe plays an unfinished torrent of Verdi Requiem **

[18:38:00]

toresbe:

DIIIIES IIIteste david cum sybiiiRAAAAAAEEEEE

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jonK:

it's Dias Its Dies Irae, latin for day of judgment, or day of wrath if i recall correctly

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toresbe:

jonK: The thing about unfinished torrents is that blocks of the file arrive in wrong order

[18:43:00]

toresbe:

jonK: so it tends to jump around like like mad

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toresbe:

jonK: And it's day of judgement :)

[18:44:00]

toresbe:

It's a truly beautiful piece

[18:44:00]

jonK:

only to non lawyers

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Beirdo:

it is

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toresbe:

I could pm you the torrent if you wish

[18:44:00]

jonK:

every lawyer i know uses judgment

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Beirdo:

or he could just buy a frigging CD

[18:44:00]

jonK:

i don't know why

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toresbe:

This seems to be a fairly good recording

[18:44:00]

toresbe:

Beirdo: You don't think I've looked? :P

[18:45:00]

Beirdo:

oh puleeze :)

[18:45:00]

toresbe:

Beirdo: The only recording I found was horrid

[18:45:00]

Beirdo:

there's gotta be like 20 recordings of it in the stores here

[18:45:00]

toresbe:

Really?

[18:45:00]

toresbe:

I've had problems finding it

[18:45:00]

toresbe:

Mom has one from the eeearly days of CD's

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Beirdo:

I'd have to look again, of course. Dunno what kind of classical sections you have in Norway though :)

[18:45:00]

NightBird:

"It's my future! I want to be an engineer.... sex can wait!" << yes... yes it will

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toresbe:

godawful ones :P

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Beirdo:

take a drive to Austria :)

[18:46:00]

Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

or come over to Canada

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toresbe:

ooooh! A video!

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xris:

Beirdo: "crappy seattle weather"... um, we've been sunny and clear for about 4–6 months (was 60 degrees in feb), how is that crappy? (granted, it's started to get wet again — finally)

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Beirdo:

hehe

[18:48:00]

Beirdo:

crappy stereotypical Seattle weather :)

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xris:

heh

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Beirdo:

Ahhh, blues music is good stuff

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jonK:

If you like hte Verdi Requiem, you should get a copy of the Berlioz one

[18:49:00]

xris:

yes it is

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** xris wishes that he could BUY some of the music he likes in the US. **

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Beirdo:

I really want to go back to Beale St sometime. just for the blues clubs :)

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xris:

er, "COULD buy"

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ol_schoola:

oh yeah, I got lucky on a buiz trip one night and walked into BB's club while he was jammin

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ol_schoola:

biz trip

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Beirdo:

nice

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Beirdo:

that area of Memphis is actually quite nice

[18:52:00]

Beirdo:

although the crime is still a bit high

[18:52:00]

Beirdo:

best to have at least 2 people to watch each other's backs

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Beirdo:

especially when using a bank machine :)

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ol_schoola:

other than Beale St., I have no desire to return to Tenn

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

Nashville was OK

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ol_schoola:

IIRC, Mac N Cheese was a local delicacy

[18:54:00]

Beirdo:

I actually liked the city better than Memphis

[18:54:00]

Beirdo:

ummm, try BBQ pork

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ol_schoola:

oh wait, I forgot about the BBQ at Corky's

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Beirdo:

oh, and the JD Distillery down at Lynchburg's worth a visit

[18:55:00]

ol_schoola:

mmmmm, Corky's

[18:55:00]

Beirdo:

I enjoyed my time down there

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ol_schoola:

I still order up a FedEx from them once in a while

[18:55:00]

Beirdo:

but much of Memphis is a frigging hole

[18:55:00]

ol_schoola:

'greed

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Beirdo:

and we refused to go to Graceland

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Beirdo:

heh

[18:56:00]

Beirdo:

we went to Beale St and got tanked and listened to good music

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ol_schoola:

not an Elvis fan here either

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Beirdo:

and in Nashville, we avoided country stuff

[18:57:00]

ol_schoola:

there WAS this strip club by the airport, tho.....8-)

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Beirdo:

but went to the Gibson factory

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ol_schoola:

shoot, missed that

[18:57:00]

Beirdo:

it's in the Opry Mills mall

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Beirdo:

you should see the prices on some of the nice Les Pauls

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Beirdo:

GAH

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Beirdo:

$40k

[18:58:00]

Beirdo:

I'll make do with my $600 (used) one, thanks

[18:59:00]

ol_schoola:

can't play, don't know any scales, have no rhythm

[18:59:00]

Beirdo:

I can't play YET

[18:59:00]

Beirdo:

but I bought the baby anyways

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Beirdo:

:)

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ol_schoola:

i do rather well mixing studio and live however

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Beirdo:

the LP weighs less than the bass though

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Beirdo:

heh

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ol_schoola:

Platinum Plus, now I member the name of that club ... ooooohh that was a long night

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Beirdo:

reminds me, still need to buy straplocks for the LP

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Cardoe:

Beirdo: do you have a PVR-150?

[19:02:00]

Beirdo:

no

[19:02:00]

Beirdo:

I have 3 PVR-250

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Cardoe:

it might be the same

[19:02:00]

Cardoe:

you know which of the coaxial jacks is for the TV in?

[19:03:00]

Cardoe:

I can't see back there and have to reach around and feel around.

[19:03:00]

Beirdo:

not sure.

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Beirdo:

heh

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Cardoe:

k

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Beirdo:

one's TV, the other FM

[19:03:00]

Cardoe:

yeah

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Beirdo:

you can likely find a closeup shot of the back of the card online somewhere

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Cardoe:

Was just hoping to get it right the first time.

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

understandable

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Cardoe:

and I saw ya talking in here

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Beirdo:

:)

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Cardoe:

and you're like the WOM of the channel

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Cardoe:

;)

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Beirdo:

if I were home, I'd take a look for ya on my cards, but I'm at work and won't be home till Monday :)

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Cardoe:

I'm gonna go based on the PVR-150 without the FM

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Beirdo:

(long weekend)++

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Cardoe:

seriously

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Beirdo:

taking the bus to my dad's (2.5h away)

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Beirdo:

then driving his minivan back on Monday

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syle:

hello, i remember ripping this dvd and watching it in myvideos in english, now when i go back to watch it its in FRENCH! ideas?

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syle:

i was watching it first time while it was ripping

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Cardoe:

I guess it's time to build an IR receiver

[19:08:00]

Cardoe:

and I'll have to figure out some nice case for it.

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Cardoe:

so the girl doesn't go crazy

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Beirdo:

ideas? learn French :)

[19:08:00]

Cardoe:

cause no circuitry allowed out there.

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Beirdo:

that sucks, Cardoe

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Beirdo:

:)

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Beirdo:

women can be strange like that at times

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Beirdo:

hehe

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BockBilbo:

i get this when starting the mythtv-backend: Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed

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BockBilbo:

:S

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BockBilbo:

what can cause it?

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jonK:

I get that error when starting the backend from the same machine running the backend, when I use the a remote shell, I don't get the same message. Never understood why.

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warewolf:

he already left

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warewolf:

how nice of him to wait

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** warewolf shrugs **

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warewolf:

anyone here ever use MythTV in a CarPC?

[19:21:00]

Beirdo:

why would I want to do that?

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warewolf:

well I don't mean the tv capture part

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warewolf:

I mean for playing mp3s, dvds, radio tuning, etc

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Cardoe:

Beirdo: I know a guy that wanted too... for the interface

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warewolf:

yeah, the myth interface is *polished*

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Beirdo:

oh, fair enough

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Beirdo:

I don't have a CarPC

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Beirdo:

let alone a car

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warewolf:

I have one in progress :)

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warewolf:

inteesting

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warewolf:

mythphone — caller ID?

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GreyFoxx:

It's a SIP+Video client

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GreyFoxx:

So VOIP+Video

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warewolf:

Cool!

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GreyFoxx:

I've never used it myself, but it's there :)

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rjune:

Beirdo: You don't have car?

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Beirdo:

no

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Beirdo:

had one, don't have one

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ol_schoola:

http://www.timekiller.org/carpc/

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Krazylegz:

Beirdo: When is the big day?

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

end of April

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Krazylegz:

Cool.

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Cardoe:

ioctl: VIDEO_STATUS = Bad

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Beirdo:

that's the plan anyways

[19:30:00]

** Krazylegz expects no Myth-help during April **

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Cardoe:

Beirdo: I think I guessed wrong

[19:30:00]

Beirdo:

Cardoe: looks that way

[19:30:00]

Beirdo:

and in 2 weeks, we are making it all official

[19:30:00]

Beirdo:

:)

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BockBilbo:

i cant configure the channels... after i configued the xmltv options in mythtv-setup, it said that i have to run mythfilldatabase --manual

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Beirdo:

transferrance of rock to finger and all

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BockBilbo:

and i get an error saying: Error in 1651:15: unexpected end of file

[19:31:00]

Beirdo:

BockBilbo: so run it

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BockBilbo:

Beirdo, ive run it and i get that error

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** Beirdo shrugs **

[19:31:00]

BockBilbo:

Failed to fetch some program info

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Beirdo:

glad I don't need xmltv

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Cardoe:

ioctl: VIDEO_STATUS = Bad

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Cardoe:

neither works

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Cardoe:

:(

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BockBilbo:

Beirdo, isnt there an option to auto scan all channels?

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Beirdo:

don't think so

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BockBilbo:

so, the only way to configure the channels is by xmltv?

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warewolf:

ol_schoola: nice setup :)

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thanius:

Hey

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thanius:

It doesn't seem like I can set tuner options to the ivtv modue

[19:38:00]

thanius:

It seem to like tuner=47 (autodetect) but that's (LG NTSC (TAPE series)), and I'm on PAL

[19:38:00]

thanius:

any suggestions?

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ol_schoola:

ain't mine

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warewolf:

ol_schoola: oh :/

[19:39:00]

ol_schoola:

one of my subcontractors is working on one now, tho

[19:40:00]

ol_schoola:

has an ejectable, flip up 7" TFT display

[19:40:00]

ol_schoola:

Civic Coupe

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warewolf:

I refuse to get a motorized display

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ol_schoola:

not motorized, manual

[19:40:00]

warewolf:

what happens when the motor in it breaks?

[19:40:00]

warewolf:

oh

[19:40:00]

warewolf:

well either way

[19:40:00]

warewolf:

I want one that's permenant

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ol_schoola:

it does seem a wee bit breakable IMO

[19:41:00]

warewolf:

I'm having a difficult time finding a 16:9 LVDS lcd

[19:41:00]

ol_schoola:

but he didn't have the real estate for the in dash

[19:41:00]

warewolf:

apparently nobody makes them

[19:41:00]

warewolf:

LVDS is the signalling used in laptop LCDs

[19:42:00]

warewolf:

whelp, warcraft is calling me

[19:42:00]

** warewolf -c WoW & **

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Beirdo:

in many places, having a TV in the dash would be illegal, I think

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ol_schoola:

that was his thinking as well

[19:43:00]

warewolf:

Beirdo: it is where I live, so I just won't watch TV.

[19:43:00]

warewolf:

Beirdo: GPS nav isn't though

[19:43:00]

warewolf:

anyway

[19:43:00]

** warewolf & **

[19:43:00]

Beirdo:

it's the concept of the distraction that should make it illegal in my opinion

[19:43:00]

ol_schoola:

agreed

[19:44:00]

ol_schoola:

cell phones, food, makeup....

[19:44:00]

ol_schoola:

just futzing with radios is bad enough

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ol_schoola:

but "it's all good" here in the U. S. of I Ain't Responsible for Sh&t

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

you don't wanna get us all started :)

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ol_schoola:

in March, I'm heading to the BVI for a 10 day bareboat dive charter

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ol_schoola:

i might just take the ferry back to St. John and NOT LEAVE

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GreyFoxx:

Which St John?

[19:47:00]

ol_schoola:

USVI

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GreyFoxx:

ahhh

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GreyFoxx:

Ok

[19:48:00]

GreyFoxx:

Duh, Virgin Islands. I wasn't cluing into that

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GreyFoxx:

heh

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Beirdo:

I'll wave at you from PR :)

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** Cardoe sighs **

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Cardoe:

not working at all.

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Beirdo:

I hope to be down there by then

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ol_schoola:

I'll fly right over ya if you'll be there in early April

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ol_schoola:

stopping over at Gitmo to visit a contractor friend on the way back

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ol_schoola:

try to vist the radio telescope

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ol_schoola:

if they allow

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ol_schoola:

it's cool as hell

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kev_:

i'm looking for the 0x02050032 revision of the encoder firmware for hauppauge cards. can anyone help?

[19:54:00]

Cardoe:

www.ivtvdriver.org

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Chutt:

why would people think that it'd be ok to add glib as a dependency?

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kev_:

Cardoe: thanks. do you know the relation between ivtvdriver.org and ivtv.writeme.ch?

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GreyFoxx:

ivtv: is the old wiki, ivtvdriver is where all of it is moving too

[19:57:00]

GreyFoxx:

slowing it's all moving to ivtvdriver

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GreyFoxx:

slowly I meant

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kev_:

k. thanks

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Beirdo:

Chutt: because they are dumb, obviously :)

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Cardoe:

Nothing wants to work on this card.

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** Cardoe sighs. **

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Cardoe:

stupid PPC

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Cardoe:

Should just buy a MB myself and send this crap bacl

[20:00:00]

Beirdo:

could well be that ivtv and big endian don't see eye-to-eye

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Cardoe:

it compiles and someone said that all you have to do is kill DMA support in the ivtv driver.

[20:01:00]

Cardoe:

I've tried it with and without DMA

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kev_:

some more ivtv questions :) i'm using ivtv 0.3.9 b/c i have a 500mce. but i also have a 250. i've been using the encoder/decoder firmware from the 250 with all units. video works fine but audio is missing from the second tuner on the 500mce. i've read reports of the issue on the ivtv mailing list and it's suggested to use the 0x02050032 encoder revision firmware. meanwhile on ivtvdriver.org there's info for having *only* a 250/350 or a

[20:02:00]

kev_:

500, but no info abut using both. which version of the firmware should i try? the 0x02050032 (ivtv.writeme.ch) or the HcwFalcn (ivtvdriver.org)?

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Chutt:

use 0.3.8

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Chutt:

not a svn snapshot

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kev_:

Chutt: 0.3.8 works better than 0.3.9?

[20:03:00]

kev_:

Chutt: and what about firmware revisions?

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Chutt:

there is no 0.3.9

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kev_:

it was posted a few days ago in the unstable dir, but has since been removed

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GreyFoxx:

*snort*

[20:04:00]

Chutt:

no

[20:04:00]

Chutt:

that moron chris kennedy has been posting svn checkouts and calling them 0.3.9

[20:04:00]

Chutt:

he is no longer maintaining the driver, though

[20:04:00]

Chutt:

0.3.8 is the latest release.

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kev_:

Chutt: k. thanks for the clarification

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Cardoe:

why the hell is he doing that?

[20:05:00]

Cardoe:

I was wondering myself.

[20:05:00]

Cardoe:

Everyone hates his bullshit "versioning" scheme.

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mchou:

Chutt: ck is no longer maintaining ivtv? Is there a new maintainer?

[20:06:00]

Chutt:

hans

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Chutt:

cardoe, because he's a moron

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kormoc:

you need a svn release for kernels > 2.6.13-r6 tho, so hopefully it'll be released soon.

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NightBird:

"Dealing with failure is easy: Work hard to improve. Success is also easy to handle: You've solved the wrong problem. Work hard to improve." – Alan Perlis

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kev_:

Chutt: wanted to let you know a reboot with ivtv 0.3.8 and the firmware recommended at ivtvdriver.org has made all tuners (audio + video) work. thanks for your help!

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Hoxzer:

damn

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Hoxzer:

is it possible to install 0.18.1 to ubuntu since there is only 0.17 in sygate?

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Juski:

Hoxzer – yup

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Cardoe:

kormoc: if you use the gentoo ebuild... it contains the necessary fixes

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kormoc:

yay!

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Juski:

download the source & compile it yourself... no biggie, assuming you have all the dependencies

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Beirdo:

emerge turd

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Beirdo:

heh

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Juski:

easy...

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Hoxzer:

Juski: you have?

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Beirdo:

just had to do it

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Juski:

no Hoxzer... umbongo has left my building, never to return

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Beirdo:

whatever, genflu lover :)

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Juski:

it might be simple to install, but the fact it didn't see my hardware properly (and I can't be arsed to fix that and other stuff).. I'm going back to gentoo

[20:55:00]

Beirdo:

there's no purpose to making fun of already stupid distro names

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Hoxzer:

Juski: eh.... wtf?

[20:55:00]

Juski:

Beirdo – my tiny brain can only hold so much information at the same time. Like with Homer Simpson, every new thing I learn pushes something out

[20:55:00]

Beirdo:

way to play the boss' head like a bongo, Homer!

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Juski:

Hoxzer.. I was gonna stick with it, but decided I couldn't be bothered

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Beirdo:

it wasn't rice-boy enough? :)

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Juski:

lol

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Hoxzer:

umbongo=ubuntu? :D

[20:56:00]

Juski:

my pet name for it

[20:56:00]

Juski:

call it a term of (ahem) endearment

[20:56:00]

Beirdo:

a dumb name to replace a dumb name

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Juski:

any linux distro which has an 'Add/Remove Programs' menu has gotta be suspect in my book

[20:57:00]

Beirdo:

whatever

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Juski:

I thought "nah they couldn't have... " I was right... they hadn't

[20:57:00]

Juski:

aaanyway

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Beirdo:

go back to compiling the world

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Beirdo:

emerge --make-me-more-coffee world

[20:58:00]

Hoxzer:

Hmm... seems like it will make diffrence if I can't install mythtv to ubuntu

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Beirdo:

of course you can

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Juski:

Hoxzer I've already said you can... just download the source & compile it

[20:59:00]

Juski:

if there's no rpm thingy for the current version of mythtv

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Hoxzer:

Juski: yeah, do you tell me how to do it because I'm surely a noob

[20:59:00]

Juski:

ermmm a good place to start would be www.mythtv.org

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Juski:

or choose a different distro flavour of the month ;)

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Juski:

seriously though Hoxzer – compiling your own isn't as hard as it sounds, even if you are a noob

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Juski:

everyone was a n00b at one time or another.. no matter how much folks try to deny it lol

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Beirdo:

no way, I was born compiling... hehe

[21:01:00]

Beirdo:

yeah right

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Beirdo:

reading the documentation would be a good start

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BockBilbo:

hello

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BockBilbo:

it is possible to edit manually the channel list ?

[21:02:00]

Juski:

why are the ubuntu rpms so far behind anyhow? you'd think that one of the gazillion users could get off their proverbial and make an rpm

[21:02:00]

Beirdo:

they aren't rpms

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Beirdo:

silly

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Beirdo:

it's Debian-based

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Chutt:

and 0.18.1's in unstable.

[21:03:00]

Chutt:

so it's not behind at all.

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Juski:

alright then... packages... whatever

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Krazylegz:

DEBs.

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Juski:

anyhow – time to put that distro back on my spare box.. see you next week

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bigby:

Hi.

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Pelalil:

Hi :-), I have a good few divx's on my mythtv box, that all work just fine with mythvideo. The problem is that cos there are so many it takes ages to find each movie, is there a better way, maybe have folders etc? or am I missing something

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Beirdo:

you should be able to use subfolders

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Beirdo:

works for me

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Pelalil:

oh, thans

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bigby:

Does anyone know how to configure myth to use a different directory for storing ripped dvd's? It insists on putting them in /var/lib/mythvideo. I'd like to store my DVD's somewhere else. I can remove the /var/lib/mythdvd directory and replace it with a symbolic link, but I'd rather not do that.

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Beirdo:

I'm sure it's a setting

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Beirdo:

I don't use mythdvd, so I can't be specific, but I'm sure that's in the setup menu in the frontend

[21:18:00]

bigby:

There's a setting for the temp directory but not for actually where the final dvd should live.

[21:18:00]

Beirdo:

dunno

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GreyFoxx:

I'm sure you can specify

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bigby:

Nevermind, Beirdo.

[21:19:00]

bigby:

I looked again.

[21:19:00]

bigby:

I just realized that I was looking under the wrong place.

[21:19:00]

Beirdo:

hehe

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bigby:

Shoot me.

[21:19:00]

Beirdo:

that would do it

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bigby:

8-)

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bigby:

Thanks for responding anyway. 8-)

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Beirdo:

no prob

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bigby:

I have a different question. When I run the Myth frontend on a different box. The menu for playing videos doesn't appear. Why?

[21:21:00]

bigby:

DVD video's I mean.

[21:21:00]

bigby:

I can see live recordings just fine.

[21:21:00]

bigby:

but no option for playing the DVD's that I ripped.

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Beirdo:

you likely didn't install mythvideo on that frontend

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Beirdo:

or whatever module

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bigby:

Beirdo: I think that you're right. 8-)

[21:23:00]

bigby:

Crap, I keep forgetting the obvious. 8-(

[21:24:00]

bigby:

He-he. I'm not usually this dense. I'm on vacation today. I think that my brain took a vacation, too.

[21:24:00]

bigby:

Again, thanks.

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GreyFoxx:

oooh that reminds me, Monday is a Holiday. Sweet. Long weekends. Funny how I never remember until the last minute heh

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bigby:

Yup. GreyFoxx, not for me. I have to return to work.

[21:25:00]

GreyFoxx:

Mmmm Turkey Day

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Beirdo:

turkey day :)

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Beirdo:

yummm

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bigby:

GreyFoxx: Are you in Canada?

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GreyFoxx:

Yup

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Beirdo:

which is why I'm taking a 3h or so bus ride to my dad's tonight

[21:26:00]

Beirdo:

Canada++

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GreyFoxx:

Beirdo: Hehe I have a TD on Sunday and on Monday! Woo

[21:26:00]

Beirdo:

woohoo

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GreyFoxx:

My favourite "meals" are turkey dinner with stuffing. Makes me drool thinking about it

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bigby:

No turkey for me until next month.

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bigby:

8-(

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GreyFoxx:

bigby: yeah. I always found that a little weird hehe

[21:27:00]

GreyFoxx:

same name, different day hehe

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bigby:

I think that one of our presidents changed the day. Who was it? Lincoln? I'm not sure.

[21:28:00]

bigby:

Well, you guys ... have a good feast!

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GreyFoxx:

will do

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bigby:

bye

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bigby:

and thanks.

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Beirdo:

Thanksgiving is primarily tied to harvest time, I thought, and in Canada that's generally earlier

[21:48:00]

Beirdo:

or some such crap

[21:48:00]

Beirdo:

I don't care, gimme turkey already

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** Krazylegz waits for Boxing Day **

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

the best shopping day of the year

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Beirdo:

especially as most stores won't accept returns

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FITH:

Way too much info on Canadian Thanksgiving... http://www.pch.gc.ca/progs/cpsc-ccsp/jfa-ha/action_e.cfm

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Juski:

one hour later.. compiling the kernel now.. sheesh

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