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| [00:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anybody here know about IVTV quite well? |
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| [00:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I have been googling around for hours now trying to find out whats causing this problem with my black bars on all 4 sides of any video I view at all... I cannot figure out what is causing this nor what to do :/ |
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| [00:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hi xris |
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| [01:03:00] | xris: | heya |
| [01:04:00] | simon_c_home: | Hi All. I'm stting up a new frontend, and the video playback isn't taking up the full screen. There's a small band at the bottom that's showing the desktop. Any clues |
| [01:06:00] | jhoke: | heyas |
| [01:07:00] | jhoke: | xris, so can I ask you what settings you are using with nuvexport? I am curious to see how others use it.. and well.. who better to ask :) I want to archive shows to DATA dvd, and find a nice sweetspot btwn size/quality and well.. video is not my strength :) |
| [01:09:00] | PatrickDK: | it depends on the video's your encoding |
| [01:09:00] | PatrickDK: | maybe try 400–800kbit |
| [01:11:00] | xris: | jhoke: I use the defaults (since I made them).. except that I use --transcode (transcode is better for xvid imho) and multipass. |
| [01:11:00] | jhoke: | I am starting with mpeg2 files from my x50's ... avg about 2.4gb/hr ... also trying to figure out which of the options would be best for data archiving... divx, xvid, etc etc etc... |
| [01:12:00] | jhoke: | xris: LOL ... figured... was interested in what you are using (ie: xvid & transcode) as I recall you saying that you just burn your files onto DVD ... nor for a player, just for data storage ;) |
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| [01:13:00] | jhoke: | granted I am going to have to wait to start this until I finish building this new slave backend ... my FC4 box is all funky ... need to rebuild it again, but with another non-gcc4 distro ....feh |
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| [01:13:00] | psm321: | hi |
| [01:13:00] | jhoke: | (too many things giving me heartburn with gcc4...<G>) |
| [01:13:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, do the defaults give you max quality? or takes less encoding time? |
| [01:14:00] | simon_c_home: | Humm. When it starts playback, it shifts the entire screen up about 15–20 pixels. Anyone any clues ? |
| [01:14:00] | psm321: | recently, after a forced reboot, mythfrontend keeps saying "Not Flagged" whenever i try to skip commercials (i know they are flagged because of the job queue status and the icon on the recordings screen) |
| [01:15:00] | xris: | jhoke: yup. just the default settings for xvid, but with transcode and multipass. |
| [01:15:00] | psm321: | PatrickDK: i dont know about quality vs time, but they are definitely set to favor quality over filesize |
| [01:15:00] | xris: | I set them to match what most pirated tv shows seem to use as far as bitrate and frame size go. |
| [01:15:00] | jhoke: | xris, TY! |
| [01:15:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, I hate the framesizes they use |
| [01:16:00] | PatrickDK: | anything other than 720x480 or larger I think is just evil :) |
| [01:16:00] | PatrickDK: | unless your using some device that 320x240 is the max |
| [01:17:00] | psm321: | PatrickDK: i tend to favor small filesize... i have things set so that it takes ~75MB per half hour |
| [01:17:00] | psm321: | allows for my huge obsessive recording habit |
| [01:17:00] | PatrickDK: | damn, I use like 1gig for that |
| [01:17:00] | PatrickDK: | but then, I have terabytes of storage |
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| [01:17:00] | Norbert: | Hi. |
| [01:17:00] | jhoke: | Heh |
| [01:18:00] | psm321: | hi |
| [01:18:00] | PatrickDK: | alot of my stuff is anime, and it tends to not like highcompression very much |
| [01:18:00] | psm321: | so anyone have any ideas for me? |
| [01:18:00] | jhoke: | I have just been storing the mpegs as they come off my card... 2.4g/hr ...except the cartoons I record for the lil one... those are set to autotranscode and average about 400m/hr |
| [01:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2.4G an hour? is that an mpeg2 recording? |
| [01:19:00] | jhoke: | psm: are you able to load the commercials into the cutlist? |
| [01:19:00] | jhoke: | MrSpiffy yes |
| [01:19:00] | PatrickDK: | yep |
| [01:19:00] | PatrickDK: | the lower setting for the pvr cards |
| [01:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | damn |
| [01:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | and I was thinking about getting a pvr250 |
| [01:19:00] | jhoke: | I range from about 2.1gb/hr -> 3.4gb/hr |
| [01:19:00] | SarahEmm: | heh |
| [01:20:00] | jhoke: | depending on the profile I am using |
| [01:20:00] | SarahEmm: | the PVR cards are nice for CPU load... |
| [01:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | I'm sw encoding a wintv 401 mpeg4 at about 1G per hour |
| [01:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | damn that's big |
| [01:20:00] | jhoke: | I just need about three more 400gb drives :) |
| [01:20:00] | SarahEmm: | that's what i use MrSpiffy |
| [01:20:00] | PatrickDK: | gig per hour is not big |
| [01:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | jhoke, I recently bought a highpoint ide raid card – love it. cheap! |
| [01:20:00] | SarahEmm: | looking to add a few more :) |
| [01:20:00] | PatrickDK: | hell, dvd is like 2gigs per hour |
| [01:21:00] | Norbert: | I have a question about the Hauppage 350. |
| [01:21:00] | Norbert: | I am thinking about getting one, and useing it's tv-out. I heard it was too slow for games. What does that mean? |
| [01:21:00] | PatrickDK: | norbert, thanks for letting us know you have a question |
| [01:21:00] | PatrickDK: | norbert, don't play quake on it |
| [01:21:00] | jhoke: | once I actually take the time to learn more about video compression and codecs, etc... I will tweak more ... until then, this works for the most part... |
| [01:22:00] | jhoke: | are you planning on using yuour mythtv back end as a gaming box as well? |
| [01:22:00] | Norbert: | I don't understand how video output can affect playing games. |
| [01:22:00] | Norbert: | I have a Playstation, I have no problems playing games on my TV. |
| [01:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Norbert: It's not a standard video card, and the lag of writing to the tv out would make playing games rough. Plus there is no 3d acceleration onboard at all so it would all have to be done in software |
| [01:23:00] | Norbert: | Is the 350 unable to output that same kind of video signal? |
| [01:23:00] | PatrickDK: | no |
| [01:23:00] | PatrickDK: | it has to do with bandwidth |
| [01:23:00] | PatrickDK: | a 350, used as a video card, will max out the pci bus |
| [01:23:00] | PatrickDK: | it is not suppost to be used as a video card |
| [01:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | SarahEmm, you use a 401 or a pvr250 ? |
| [01:24:00] | Norbert: | Oh, I think I get it now. |
| [01:24:00] | PatrickDK: | it does not have a fast interface for that, or onboard chips to speed it up |
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| [01:24:00] | Norbert: | Ok. |
| [01:24:00] | PatrickDK: | it does have mpeg decompression stuff, so mpeg is very fast |
| [01:24:00] | Norbert: | So I would guess a 250 is sufficient? |
| [01:24:00] | SarahEmm: | mrspiffy: a BTTV software-encoded card. |
| [01:24:00] | SarahEmm: | err, he's gone... |
| [01:24:00] | Norbert: | And get a good tv-out card? |
| [01:25:00] | PatrickDK: | unless you want tv out, for livetv or recorded mpeg files, get a 150 |
| [01:25:00] | Norbert: | Well I do want to create a HTPC. |
| [01:25:00] | PatrickDK: | if you want to play back none-mpeg, or dvi or soemthing, get a good video card |
| [01:25:00] | Norbert: | So yea I want to be able to view everything on a TV. |
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| [01:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Norbert: Then a Nvidia card is what most use |
| [01:25:00] | Norbert: | Oh. |
| [01:25:00] | PatrickDK: | 350 output will do it, but, well, that is all your computer will do |
| [01:25:00] | Norbert: | Yea... |
| [01:26:00] | Norbert: | I really don't want to deal with proprietary software... |
| [01:26:00] | Norbert: | I am beginning to think that I am out of luck. |
| [01:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Norbert: Are you referring to the closed source Nvidia driver ? |
| [01:26:00] | Norbert: | Yes. |
| [01:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | I personally don't see it as a concern |
| [01:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | they release often |
| [01:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | and seem to fix the major bugs |
| [01:27:00] | Norbert: | Yea, I'm a Free software advocate. |
| [01:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | and It's by far the most commonly used card for a Linux based htpc because of their regular driver releases |
| [01:27:00] | PatrickDK: | most software isn't free |
| [01:27:00] | PatrickDK: | but only freeto none commercial usage of it |
| [01:27:00] | Norbert: | I see. |
| [01:28:00] | psm321: | jhoke: i have no idea... how would i check? |
| [01:28:00] | jhoke: | do not fear(tm) the nvidia driver |
| [01:28:00] | jhoke: | psm:? |
| [01:28:00] | psm321: | jhoke: (i dont use cutlist for anything else) |
| [01:28:00] | jhoke: | ah |
| [01:28:00] | psm321: | [19:18] <jhoke> psm: are you able to load the commercials into the cutlist? |
| [01:28:00] | psm321: | (sorry it took so long to answer) |
| [01:28:00] | jhoke: | ok, load up a recording in myth and hit "e" then "z" |
| [01:29:00] | jhoke: | that will put you into edit mode and load up the commerical flag list... if it exists :) |
| [01:29:00] | jhoke: | then hit e again to exit |
| [01:29:00] | psm321: | hitting e brings up the edit screen |
| [01:29:00] | psm321: | z doesnt appear to do anything visible |
| [01:29:00] | jhoke: | ok, then its above my meager head :O) |
| [01:29:00] | psm321: | oh, its getting mysql errors |
| [01:29:00] | psm321: | thats not good :-/ |
| [01:30:00] | psm321: | mustve gotten killed with the reboot |
| [01:30:00] | jhoke: | Is there documentation on promoting a slave BE -> being the master BE? |
| [01:31:00] | jhoke: | That'd do it |
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| [01:31:00] | MrSpiffy: | ow |
| [01:31:00] | SarahEmm: | heh |
| [01:32:00] | jhoke: | buump your head on the way in? |
| [01:32:00] | jhoke: | ;) |
| [01:32:00] | SarahEmm: | mrspiffy: a BTTV software-encoded card. <-- said that just after you left ;) |
| [01:33:00] | jhoke: | bbiab... gonna go sit outside and enjoy a nice cigar ... gotta love friends who fly into the states with diplo pouches :-D |
| [01:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | jhoke: Cubans ? |
| [01:33:00] | jhoke: | No, that would be illegal now Grey :) |
| [01:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe in your county |
| [01:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | country |
| [01:34:00] | jhoke: | I would never have a real Monte No.2 here in the states :-D |
| [01:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
| [01:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | A friend of mine has a walk in humdour (spl?) full of them :) |
| [01:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | perfectly legal :) |
| [01:34:00] | jhoke: | Bastard! |
| [01:34:00] | jhoke: | I have a small humidor that would love to keep some of them company :) |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | You would be suprised about how many americans come here so they can go on vacatioon in Cuba without flying trhough the US or to buy cuan cigars :) |
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| [01:35:00] | jhoke: | anyway... its a beautiful night out for a cigar and a bit o' hennesey |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | have fun :) |
| [01:35:00] | jhoke: | Grey, DHS is cracking down on that now :( |
| [01:35:00] | jhoke: | but bbiab |
| [01:35:00] | MrSpiffy: | SarahEmm, I was going to get a pvr 250 because I am not jazzed about the quality of the pic |
| [01:35:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh |
| [01:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | washed out or too bright or too much contract or not enough blah blah blah |
| [01:36:00] | SarahEmm: | i'm fine with my pic quality :) |
| [01:36:00] | deadguppy: | anyone think a P3–1000 is fast enough for myth ? |
| [01:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | hm |
| [01:36:00] | SarahEmm: | i'm not too jazzed about the CPU load tho :) |
| [01:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | deadguppy, front end yes |
| [01:36:00] | SarahEmm: | so pondering moving to a dualcore athlon and adding another tuner or two |
| [01:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | SarahEmm, I split my fornt/back – backend is on a 3G p4 with HT running an smp kernel |
| [01:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | plenty of cpu :) |
| [01:37:00] | MrSpiffy: | but the pic quality is not very spiffy |
| [01:37:00] | SarahEmm: | for multiple cards tho MrSpiffy? |
| [01:37:00] | SarahEmm: | i'm okay CPU-wise for one |
| [01:37:00] | SarahEmm: | but i want to add more than one tuner |
| [01:37:00] | MrSpiffy: | SarahEmm, yeah – one card here too – I worry about adding more – and I have 2 slots ectra |
| [01:37:00] | deadguppy: | front end... is there a back end ? |
| [01:37:00] | MrSpiffy: | deadguppy, yes – often on the same box |
| [01:37:00] | MrSpiffy: | but not always :) |
| [01:37:00] | SarahEmm: | MrSpiffy: i'm at like 90% CPU right now, i can't add any more cards :) |
| [01:37:00] | MrSpiffy: | bummer |
| [01:37:00] | SarahEmm: | MrSpiffy: going to two faster processors would let me, tho. |
| [01:38:00] | deadguppy: | you mean 2 motherboards ? |
| [01:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | SarahEmm, 90% is tight |
| [01:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | deadguppy, nope |
| [01:38:00] | SarahEmm: | when my backups starts at 2100 i start dropping frames MrSpiffy heh |
| [01:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | SarahEmm, what cpu ? |
| [01:38:00] | SarahEmm: | it works, tho. |
| [01:38:00] | deadguppy: | okay let me rephrase. |
| [01:38:00] | SarahEmm: | celeron 1.7 :P |
| [01:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | ahhh |
| [01:38:00] | deadguppy: | whats minimum mobo reqs for myth ? |
| [01:38:00] | ** MrSpiffy coughs up a celeron hairball ** | |
| [01:38:00] | SarahEmm: | MrSpiffy: LOL |
| [01:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | ack --->* |
| [01:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | deadguppy: Myth is setup to be 2 processes. The backend which handles the recording and scheduling, and the frontend which is the gui + playback |
| [01:39:00] | SarahEmm: | deadguppy: depends what you're doing with it and what cards you have :) |
| [01:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | they are often on the same box, but not always |
| [01:39:00] | psm321: | yay it works again! (except for a few days worth of recordings) |
| [01:39:00] | SarahEmm: | MrSpiffy: hence the wanting-to-upgrade ;) |
| [01:39:00] | MrSpiffy: | my dell DT is a 2.2G celeron and that was working with a wintv card |
| [01:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | the CPU depends a lot of the type of capture card |
| [01:39:00] | MrSpiffy: | but working pretty hard |
| [01:39:00] | SarahEmm: | GreyFoxx: true. we're both talking about plain tuner cards with software mpeg-4 tho |
| [01:39:00] | SarahEmm: | GreyFoxx: and i just realized you're not talking to us. sorry; ) |
| [01:39:00] | MrSpiffy: | I like the machine but the cpu made for a not so good myth backend |
| [01:40:00] | psm321: | jhoke: thanks! |
| [01:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you get one with a hardware encoder then capture is basically 0 cpu, if it's a cheaper bttv softwar e card then you require much more cpu for the capture |
| [01:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | SarahEmm: heh |
| [01:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey GreyFoxx I searched around alot about the issue |
| [01:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I cant find anything of what would be causing it :/ |
| [01:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | deadguppy: Bug in general 1Ghz or better would likely give you the most flexibility |
| [01:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I also reverted my system back to where it was before putting nuvexport on to see if that did anything but nothing :/ |
| [01:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | SlicerDicer-: You could try the ivtv-dev mailing list :) |
| [01:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I searched the mailing list |
| [01:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nothing :/ |
| [01:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm talking about posting to it |
| [01:41:00] | deadguppy: | so would a dual processor system be ideal ? |
| [01:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | everybody who posted anything similar got ignored GreyFoxx |
| [01:41:00] | SarahEmm: | deadguppy: not needed for most people. |
| [01:41:00] | deadguppy: | so what do most people use ? |
| [01:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | deadguppy: not particularly. But again it depends on your other hardware choices |
| [01:42:00] | SarahEmm: | most people use a hauppauge PVR-xxx card which does encoding in hardware, so you don't need a powerful CPU |
| [01:42:00] | SarahEmm: | i'm talking about a dual box because i don't use PVR-xxx cards, meaning i burn up a lot more CPU |
| [01:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx, is it 100% sure the ivtv drivers if I 'mplayer /dev/video*' and its doign that? |
| [01:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | deadguppy: I'd say a Pvr250/150 capture card in a AMD box of at least 1GHZ with 256meg or more of ram and an Nvidia video card with tv out is the "basic" most common |
| [01:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | SlicerDicer-: It's 100% not Myth. That's all I can say |
| [01:43:00] | SarahEmm: | SlicerDicer: drivers or the card :) not myth. |
| [01:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SarahEmm, is it possible the card just went bad? |
| [01:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | bu tsince ivtv si what talks to the card it would make sense to look there |
| [01:43:00] | SarahEmm: | SlicerDicer: err, drivers or the card or the feed coming in, rather. something lower down than myth :) |
| [01:43:00] | SarahEmm: | SlicerDicer: unlikely. |
| [01:43:00] | SarahEmm: | that would be a REALLY strange failure mode |
| [01:43:00] | SarahEmm: | cards don't usually 'go bad' by chopping 8 pixels off |
| [01:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SarahEmm, the feed is fine at least what I can tell |
| [01:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SarahEmm, I plugged the svideo cable that runs into my pvr directly into the TV and it looked fine |
| [01:44:00] | SarahEmm: | okay |
| [01:44:00] | SarahEmm: | so it sounds like card or drivers |
| [01:44:00] | SarahEmm: | have any other cards around to test? |
| [01:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no |
| [01:44:00] | SarahEmm: | running latest ivtv? |
| [01:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no |
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| [01:44:00] | SarahEmm: | might be worth trying an upgrade |
| [01:44:00] | SarahEmm: | sounds more like a settings thing tho |
| [01:44:00] | SarahEmm: | to me |
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| [01:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | SlicerDicer-: are you only using 16:9 video on there? Have you tried capturing something that would fill the entire screen ? |
| [01:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx, what you mean using 16:9? |
| [01:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Widescreen (which has bars on top and bottom. |
| [01:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well widescreen would not add bars to the side would it? |
| [01:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am upgrading my driver to ivtv 3.8 |
| [01:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | all transmissions tend to hAve 8 pixel black bars on both sides like I said earlier |
| [01:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah but this is far more than 8 pixel |
| [01:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I would rough guess about 60 pixel if not more |
| [01:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | plug a dvd player in and pop in a fullscreen dvd. capture that and look at it |
| [01:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok |
| [01:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | you also eliminate the source at that point |
| [01:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | brb |
| [01:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ahh shit I cant do that :/ |
| [01:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh wait I can lol |
| [01:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nvm brb |
| [01:48:00] | simon_c_home: | I've got a problem building myth on suse10. The errors start when compiling channeleditor.cpp. I get warnings in the qt3/include/qsqldatabase.h and then in qxml.h |
| [01:50:00] | simon_c_home: | and I've also got a problem on a new frontent. |
| [01:50:00] | simon_c_home: | the video playback isn't taking up the full screen. There's a small band at the bottom that's showing the desktop. Any clues |
| [01:50:00] | jhoke: | simon: I am still avoiding SuSE 10 for the same reason I am hating FC3/4 ... its gcc4 based... you may have issues with alot of apps that are not gcc4 safe :( |
| [01:51:00] | SarahEmm: | simon_c: is it just myth, or all xv apps? |
| [01:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx, seems to be fine? with fullscreen dvd? |
| [01:51:00] | simon_c_home: | I dont' have any other xv apps |
| [01:51:00] | SarahEmm: | SlicerDicer: then it's your source. |
| [01:52:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: Ahh. I took some RPMs from atrpms for fc3, and ported them to suse9.3 Now I'm trying those RPMs on suse10. |
| [01:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | errm shit so my comcast box just decided to up and flipout? |
| [01:52:00] | jhoke: | so ...I am D/L'ing SuSE 9.3 for my AMD64 and go from there... feh |
| [01:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or could it be the svideo cable? |
| [01:52:00] | SarahEmm: | simon_c: well, i'd build one and test it because that sounds like a video driver issue :) |
| [01:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cause this is a different svideocable |
| [01:52:00] | jhoke: | simon... bad juju... I'd get out a bottle of rum, a chicken and a good cigar and pray |
| [01:52:00] | simon_c_home: | SarahEmm: OK. What would you sugest ? Just mplayer or something ? |
| [01:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | SlicerDicer-: Couldn't hurt to try the new cable on the old box |
| [01:52:00] | jhoke: | :) |
| [01:52:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: :-) |
| [01:52:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah, that's what i'd use simon_c |
| [01:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | and I assume you have tried multiple channels and they all exhibited this behaviour ? |
| [01:52:00] | jhoke: | just build from source... no pain :) |
| [01:53:00] | simon_c_home: | SarahEmm: will do. |
| [01:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx, yes |
| [01:53:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: I guess, looking at the fc4 RPMs, may have different patches than the fc3 ones. ..... |
| [01:53:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: that will lead to a long long night though. |
| [01:53:00] | jhoke: | they may also bite you in the arse |
| [01:53:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: and I'm nearly asleep already. |
| [01:54:00] | jhoke: | nah... should not take more than a couple of hours soup -> nuts :) |
| [01:54:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: true. I'd *like* to understand the compile, (and RPMs them selves) enough to build my own from scratch. But I don't have the time right now. |
| [01:54:00] | jhoke: | do you have the pre-requesites installed (ivtv, etc) |
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| [01:55:00] | simon_c_home: | the spec file has the "requiredforbuild" sections pritty well filled out, so I'm 99% sure. |
| [01:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | both of my comcast boxes do it SarahEmm |
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| [01:56:00] | jhoke: | I am still trying to figure out the new options wiht autoarchiving, transcode-archival, etc etc etc in SVN |
| [01:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SarahEmm, would it be a update to the comcast boxes recently that did it? |
| [01:56:00] | jhoke: | if you have the pre-reqs installed then installing myth from source is quite straight forward ... the docs are damn good :) |
| [01:57:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: It's on the todo list. |
| [01:57:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: But it will probably be months before I get round to looking at it :-) |
| [01:58:00] | jhoke: | i'm doing it now ... thats why I am saying it :) |
| [01:58:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: :-) on suse 10 ;-) |
| [01:58:00] | jhoke: | has anyone promoted a slave BE to the Master BE ? any gotchas I should know about |
| [01:58:00] | jhoke: | simon: hell no :) on suse 9.3 |
| [01:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx, SarahEmm only some channels seem to do it now? |
| [01:59:00] | jhoke: | simon: I am staying away from anything gcc4 based until everything needed by nuvexport supports it (mpeg2cut, etc) |
| [01:59:00] | simon_c_home: | SarahEmm: mplayer plays stuff fine. When myht starts, it starts full screen fine. THen when it starts playback, it seems to becomes windowized, and shifted up about 15 pixels. |
| [01:59:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: 'k |
| [02:00:00] | jhoke: | I did try umbuntu this afternoon... not liking it... would rather just fire up debian proper |
| [02:00:00] | SarahEmm: | SlicerDicer: it's your box then. |
| [02:00:00] | SarahEmm: | SlicerDicer: talk to comcast or whoever :P |
| [02:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | umm... alright |
| [02:01:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: I'm pritty firmly stuck on suse right now. |
| [02:01:00] | SarahEmm: | simon_c: hrm. i dunno :/ that's odd.. |
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| [02:02:00] | ** simon_c_home tries a differnt window manager ** | |
| [02:02:00] | jhoke: | simon: as am I for work, whcih is why I am using it going forward ...I do ALOT of IBM/Tivoli consulting and use SuSE pretty much exclusively for clients |
| [02:02:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: I work for Novell. |
| [02:02:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: So anything that goes near work has to be suse or nld. |
| [02:02:00] | jhoke: | well, that would explain your love for the chameleon :) |
| [02:02:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: and I'll just get confused trying to do anything else at home ;-) |
| [02:03:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: :-) |
| [02:03:00] | jhoke: | one question, when are they gonna color the lizard red :) |
| [02:03:00] | simon_c_home: | it's a chamelion. (sp?). |
| [02:03:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: They'll probably just tatoo a red N onto it or something. |
| [02:03:00] | jhoke: | lol |
| [02:05:00] | simon_c_home: | probably some time after they decide if KDE or gnome should be the default desktop / default choice. ;-) |
| [02:05:00] | jhoke: | I prefer allowing me to choose @ install... and to choose something less... heavy :) |
| [02:06:00] | simon_c_home: | KDE man myself. Although this new frontend is going to have fvwm if I can figure out how to control it with keys. It's only a P2–300 !! |
| [02:07:00] | jhoke: | man this is taking quite some time... downloading 9.3 for x64... like downloading 2 distros ... |
| [02:07:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: It is two distros. |
| [02:08:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: IIRC, it's a dual-arch DVD |
| [02:08:00] | jhoke: | simon: I know... was being sarcastic ;) |
| [02:08:00] | simon_c_home: | Doh! |
| [02:08:00] | jhoke: | [mythtv@mythtv SUSE]$ du -sh |
| [02:08:00] | jhoke: | 12G (and not yet done... and this is skipping the src directory as well) |
| [02:09:00] | jhoke: | waiting for native x64 distros w/out the added weight of i386 chaff |
| [02:10:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: The DVD ISO is only 8.5GB in size. But I guess the network isntall points have more on them. |
| [02:10:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: I tend to spend most of my time with NLD, so I'm not totally clued up on the inns and outs of the various public install points |
| [02:10:00] | jhoke: | NLD? |
| [02:11:00] | simon_c_home: | Novell Linux Desktop |
| [02:11:00] | jhoke: | ah |
| [02:11:00] | simon_c_home: | take sles9, add some suse9.1 buts, and a some ximian desktop. = NLD. |
| [02:11:00] | simon_c_home: | long support life. |
| [02:11:00] | simon_c_home: | but no bleading edge stuff. |
| [02:11:00] | jhoke: | thats a good thing... for myday job |
| [02:12:00] | jhoke: | I deploy tivoli access manager and tivoli identity manager for my company's clients (I work for Unisys... we were Banyan before we changed name to ePresence and got picked up by Unisys ...) |
| [02:12:00] | simon_c_home: | something like a 5 year support life. Not sure if it's 5 years from when it stops being sold, or 5 years from launch. |
| [02:13:00] | jhoke: | I would assume launch |
| [02:13:00] | jhoke: | but i am an ass :) |
| [02:13:00] | simon_c_home: | :-) |
| [02:15:00] | jhoke: | what I should have done is gone and actually bought 9.3... would have been done by now :-D |
| [02:15:00] | simon_c_home: | :-) |
| [02:16:00] | jhoke: | started dling about 15:48 EDT |
| [02:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | Heh physical media does make the install a little easier heh |
| [02:16:00] | jhoke: | a tad bit :) |
| [02:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | My new Slackware CD's should show up any day now |
| [02:16:00] | simon_c_home: | Yep. That's a while. Why not just do an install form a network install point ? |
| [02:17:00] | jhoke: | and watch... some package will need a single RPM from the src directory that I told rsync to ignore :) |
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| [02:17:00] | jhoke: | simon, I will be doing multiple installs...i hate beating on mirrors that way |
| [02:17:00] | simon_c_home: | jhoke: caching proxy ? |
| [02:18:00] | jhoke: | so I dl it and mount via nfs |
| [02:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | jhoke: That's what I do for a lot of stuff. local network installs or CD's |
| [02:19:00] | jhoke: | GreyFoxx: ever migrate a slave BE to a master before? wondering if there is docs on doing it or gotchas other than backing up the DB |
| [02:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [02:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | other than a couple options in mythtv-setup I can't imagine it being aproblem |
| [02:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I've never tried |
| [02:19:00] | jhoke: | thats what I am thinking :) |
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| [02:20:00] | jhoke: | I have an FC4 BE now... installing SuSE for a slave ... want to promote the SusE to master, and blow away the FC4 box (after copying the database and my recordings) to reinstall as a SuSE box for other needs |
| [02:20:00] | jhoke: | basically a migration |
| [02:21:00] | SarahEmm: | what's the advantage of having multiple backends over one box? |
| [02:21:00] | jhoke: | brb... daughter wants me to get her some ice cream :) |
| [02:21:00] | jhoke: | and now I want some too |
| [02:21:00] | simon_c_home: | I *think* I found some instructions on the mythtv.info wiki site about backing up and migrating to new hw. Wasn't too hard cos I managed it while I was getting started with all this. |
| [02:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | SarahEmm: spreading diskspace, spreading the pci load, if you have a lot of recording sources it might e convienient |
| [02:22:00] | SarahEmm: | okay.. |
| [02:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sara I have 3 250's in myt master and advb card in the slave |
| [02:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can play around with the slave and not affect the master |
| [02:22:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh okay.. so for big systems i guess it makes sense |
| [02:22:00] | SarahEmm: | potentially i guess if you can't get enough CPU in one box easilly a second box might be god |
| [02:22:00] | SarahEmm: | good too ;) |
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| [02:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey GreyFoxx would you say a used pvr-350 for 110$ was a good deal? I am just about ready to say to hell with it and go all digital on my card and get the HDTV card hehe and sell my PVR350 |
| [02:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | SlicerDicer-: Doesn't sounds like a bad price |
| [02:25:00] | SarahEmm: | you can't just plug your cable into an HDTV Card tho can you? you'd only get OTA stuff? |
| [02:25:00] | cosmo_: | the hdtv card cant be used on analogue cable signals can it? |
| [02:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | probably sell pretty quick |
| [02:25:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah, i didn't think so cosmo |
| [02:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | cosmo_: the hd2000/3000 card capture analog just like a bttv card |
| [02:26:00] | cosmo_: | well, I mean the tuner |
| [02:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx, ok :) I may do that next month hehe |
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| [02:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | cosmo_: So am I |
| [02:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | the HD2000/3000 is a OTA HDTV tuner, plus a analog standard cable tuner |
| [02:27:00] | cosmo_: | ooh, groovy |
| [02:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | But I think if you use the DVB drivers for it that you cannot use the analog tuner |
| [02:28:00] | PatrickDK: | I think only the HD3000 has the analog tuner |
| [02:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | PatrickDK, thats what I am looking at getting |
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| [02:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | # Supports all 18 ATSC compliant digital formats |
| [02:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | # Supports NTSC Analog Television |
| [02:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | PatrickDK: No, the 2000 did as well |
| [02:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or at least so I have been told by 2000 owners |
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| [02:33:00] | PatrickDK: | oh, heh, the hd3000 just has one catv jack, where the hd2000 had two |
| [02:34:00] | SarahEmm: | the website says the HD2k doesn't work with cable tv analog |
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| [02:40:00] | cosmo_: | maybe I should invest in the HD3000 for the future.....hmm...... |
| [02:40:00] | cosmo_: | how long do we have before analogue broadasts stop? |
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| [02:41:00] | PatrickDK: | 2006 I thought |
| [02:41:00] | PatrickDK: | maybe 2008 |
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| [02:41:00] | cosmo_: | dang, thats not terribly long :( |
| [02:41:00] | BoBotheClown: | hello everyone |
| [02:41:00] | SarahEmm: | it'll get pushed back again. |
| [02:41:00] | SarahEmm: | :P |
| [02:41:00] | PatrickDK: | that is just over the air broadcasts |
| [02:42:00] | PatrickDK: | ya, it will get pushed back :) |
| [02:42:00] | PatrickDK: | everything does |
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| [02:43:00] | jhoke: | Nothing the gov't mandates ever happens on time... :) |
| [02:44:00] | cosmo_: | you mean the mandate does not apply for analogue cable? |
| [02:44:00] | PatrickDK: | no |
| [02:44:00] | cosmo_: | hmm, I had no idea |
| [02:45:00] | PatrickDK: | I would like to seethe goverment say something about what you can put on wires |
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| [02:45:00] | PatrickDK: | they did that for over the air, cause of bandwidth space usage |
| [02:45:00] | PatrickDK: | and that kind of stuff |
| [02:45:00] | v_thunder: | hey guys. I set up mythtv recently, and I'm suffering from a slow program guide in the frontend... |
| [02:45:00] | v_thunder: | (performance is otherwise okay) |
| [02:45:00] | PatrickDK: | basically, all fcc stuff |
| [02:45:00] | cosmo_: | do a lot of you guys use pvr series cards on digital cable? Is it difficult to hack the irblaster together or somehow change chanells on a set-top box? |
| [02:46:00] | v_thunder: | I'm wondering what I should be looking at. I've tried all the options in the config "alpha/blender/eco/solid" |
| [02:46:00] | PatrickDK: | cosmo, there are many ways to do that |
| [02:46:00] | BoBotheClown: | <--- PVR 350 with uirt blaster |
| [02:46:00] | PatrickDK: | either serial, ir blaster, or firewire |
| [02:46:00] | cosmo_: | hm, okay, so long as it works then, I'll be nice to my wallet and get the analogue tuner, since I dont care for quality |
| [02:46:00] | cosmo_: | thanks all |
| [02:46:00] | PatrickDK: | v_thunder, prbably a mysql speed problem |
| [02:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SarahEmm, are you still around? |
| [02:47:00] | BoBotheClown: | wheere can I find a list of all the ivtv module options |
| [02:47:00] | BoBotheClown: | where even |
| [02:47:00] | v_thunder: | hmmm |
| [02:47:00] | v_thunder: | PatrickDK: what can I do to speed it up? |
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| [02:47:00] | jhoke: | v_thunder, what options do you haev set for the program guide? |
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| [02:47:00] | PatrickDK: | alot of different things |
| [02:47:00] | jhoke: | there are multiple ways to draw it FWIR |
| [02:47:00] | v_thunder: | what in specific? |
| [02:47:00] | v_thunder: | currently, "eco" |
| [02:48:00] | jhoke: | checking my setup... onsec |
| [02:48:00] | v_thunder: | which says it's the lowest |
| [02:48:00] | v_thunder: | but they're all unbearably slow |
| [02:48:00] | PatrickDK: | specific, boat loads of memory |
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| [02:48:00] | PatrickDK: | your probably using the default my.cnf that isn't very speedy |
| [02:48:00] | PatrickDK: | but it does use almost no memory |
| [02:48:00] | v_thunder: | I see |
| [02:48:00] | PatrickDK: | there are other example my.cnf files |
| [02:48:00] | PatrickDK: | I have mine setup to use 4gigs of memory |
| [02:49:00] | jhoke: | Patrick is right, I always forget that because my DB is on a seperate server, one I use exclusively for mysql work |
| [02:49:00] | PatrickDK: | but then it's on a high usage database machine, that has 40gigs in it's database |
| [02:49:00] | v_thunder: | I most certainly do not have 4GB of RAM ;) |
| [02:49:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, well, use a my-small or meduim |
| [02:50:00] | PatrickDK: | something that says keybuffer around 256megs |
| [02:50:00] | PatrickDK: | that will use about 300megs total for just mysql |
| [02:50:00] | PatrickDK: | if you have tat much to spare |
| [02:50:00] | PatrickDK: | otherwise maybe even use a 64meg setup |
| [02:50:00] | v_thunder: | I don't need to restart the frontend to test this, right? |
| [02:50:00] | v_thunder: | just mysql |
| [02:50:00] | PatrickDK: | yes |
| [02:50:00] | v_thunder: | yes I do? |
| [02:50:00] | PatrickDK: | just restart mysql |
| [02:50:00] | v_thunder: | or yes I'm right? :) |
| [02:50:00] | v_thunder: | ok |
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| [02:50:00] | jhoke: | I turn left here, right |
| [02:50:00] | jhoke: | right |
| [02:51:00] | jhoke: | :) |
| [02:51:00] | jhoke: | who's on first? |
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| [02:53:00] | jhoke: | wow...just abnout done wiht my DL... bbiab |
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| [03:03:00] | hadees: | anyone here make their own coax cable? |
| [03:03:00] | PatrickDK: | ya, a few thousand feet so far |
| [03:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got a spool in the basement :) |
| [03:04:00] | hadees: | what kind of connectors do you use? |
| [03:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | crimpers and heads in my bag :) |
| [03:04:00] | PatrickDK: | I'm on my 3rd spool |
| [03:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | f-connectors ? |
| [03:04:00] | hadees: | yeah, i was looking for a recommendation |
| [03:04:00] | PatrickDK: | I used to use normal crimp, now I use compression |
| [03:04:00] | hadees: | i got no clue, they have so many |
| [03:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use compression ones |
| [03:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Stuff I get at work |
| [03:04:00] | PatrickDK: | well, there are only 3 style of connections |
| [03:04:00] | PatrickDK: | twist, crimp, compress |
| [03:05:00] | PatrickDK: | twist suck the most |
| [03:05:00] | PatrickDK: | comress is water proof |
| [03:05:00] | PatrickDK: | compress that is |
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| [03:05:00] | DarkBeer: | myth/xmame question: when I go into play games, I go to all games, then xmame, then I get a list of years from 1980–1989. under those there are some categories, but none of my roms. is this a problem with my catver.ini? |
| [03:06:00] | hadees: | PatrickDK, do you need special tools for compression or crimp? |
| [03:06:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, yes |
| [03:06:00] | hadees: | i don't really need water proof |
| [03:06:00] | PatrickDK: | you could do without |
| [03:06:00] | PatrickDK: | but it's ALOT easier with |
| [03:07:00] | PatrickDK: | well, if you don't need waterproof, compression or crimp will work, though, compression will look better |
| [03:07:00] | hadees: | whats the price diffrence between the better two ones |
| [03:07:00] | PatrickDK: | I want to say compression will probably be twice as much |
| [03:08:00] | PatrickDK: | I think a box at homedepot is like $30 for 50 compression |
| [03:09:00] | hadees: | for compression is there any brand that is better or is it all the same |
| [03:09:00] | hadees: | and are the tools diffrent by brand? |
| [03:09:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, everything is different by brand |
| [03:09:00] | PatrickDK: | but well, I dunno really |
| [03:09:00] | PatrickDK: | I just get what is available at the electrical supply store |
| [03:09:00] | hadees: | i mean can i get a compression fitting from one brand and use it with a tool from anohter |
| [03:09:00] | PatrickDK: | mostly, yes |
| [03:10:00] | PatrickDK: | about 80% or more it will work |
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| [03:11:00] | v_thunder: | hmm, my mysql conf changes haven't made any difference so far |
| [03:11:00] | hadees: | PatrickDK, thanks for the info |
| [03:11:00] | v_thunder: | plus, this implies every time I hit 'up' or 'down' that involves a db query |
| [03:12:00] | v_thunder: | does it really? |
| [03:12:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm |
| [03:12:00] | PatrickDK: | it might, not sure, I haven't looked that the guides source code |
| [03:13:00] | v_thunder: | hmm |
| [03:14:00] | ruiner: | ugh im soo frustrated, please can someone help me get my tuner card working? |
| [03:16:00] | Agrajag-: | what card? |
| [03:17:00] | ruiner: | i've tried 2- a hauppauge wintv, and an avermedia, both have the brooktree bt878 chipsets |
| [03:17:00] | ruiner: | so im using the kernel bttv module |
| [03:17:00] | ruiner: | seems to load just fine, detects the card & tuners just fine (from dmesg) |
| [03:17:00] | PatrickDK: | my wintv is just 848 |
| [03:18:00] | ruiner: | my lspci says 878 |
| [03:18:00] | ruiner: | does it matter, both use bttv, right? |
| [03:18:00] | PatrickDK: | not too much, I think bttv does both |
| [03:18:00] | ruiner: | right |
| [03:18:00] | PatrickDK: | how did you setup mythtv-setup? |
| [03:19:00] | ruiner: | well i've been trying to test it without mythtv, just by doing 'mplayer /dev/video0' |
| [03:19:00] | ruiner: | or cat'ing it into a file & then playing with mplayer |
| [03:19:00] | PatrickDK: | that won't work |
| [03:19:00] | ruiner: | i just get... "Cache fill: 16.41% (1376256 bytes) Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll |
| [03:19:00] | ruiner: | Exiting... (End of file)" |
| [03:19:00] | PatrickDK: | duh |
| [03:19:00] | ruiner: | what? like 4 ppl in this channel have told me to do that |
| [03:19:00] | PatrickDK: | that only works on the pvr cards |
| [03:19:00] | PatrickDK: | not framegrabbers |
| [03:19:00] | ruiner: | uuuuugh |
| [03:19:00] | ruiner: | lol |
| [03:20:00] | ruiner: | thank you, finally someone who knows something =P |
| [03:20:00] | PatrickDK: | ya, if you cat /dev/video0 |
| [03:20:00] | PatrickDK: | it should output alot of crap |
| [03:20:00] | ruiner: | yeah |
| [03:20:00] | PatrickDK: | but nothing meaningful |
| [03:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you want to look at a framegrabber you use the tv://channel options for mplayer |
| [03:21:00] | ruiner: | could you give me the full syntax for that? |
| [03:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | no, but man mplayer would |
| [03:21:00] | ruiner: | k |
| [03:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | or read the mplayer docs |
| [03:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's been years since I last used a framegrabber in such away :) |
| [03:22:00] | PatrickDK: | only framegrabbers I'm using is webcams |
| [03:22:00] | PatrickDK: | have them setup as different channels |
| [03:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | my bttv cards are on a shelf |
| [03:22:00] | ruiner: | well...im poor lol |
| [03:23:00] | PatrickDK: | well, think of it this way, more powerfull cpu to encode, or very small price increase for pvr card |
| [03:23:00] | PatrickDK: | I think it's worth the money for the pvr, cause that is so much less $ for a cpu to do the same thing |
| [03:23:00] | ruiner: | well i got a more powerful cpu from a donation for free, but had to buy the card myself |
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| [03:24:00] | ruiner: | my entire system was build from donations, except the tuner card lol |
| [03:24:00] | SarahEmm: | PatrickDK: PVRs don't do captioning tho :) |
| [03:24:00] | PatrickDK: | actually they do |
| [03:25:00] | PatrickDK: | just the ivtv drivers don't do it yet, or dosn't work |
| [03:25:00] | SarahEmm: | true |
| [03:25:00] | PatrickDK: | but then, I don't care about captioning |
| [03:25:00] | SarahEmm: | what i should have said is: |
| [03:25:00] | SarahEmm: | myth with the PVR-xxx cards doesn't support captioning ;) |
| [03:25:00] | PatrickDK: | ya, I don't think myth supports pvr captioning at all |
| [03:25:00] | SarahEmm: | ivtv supports it for 250/350 and myth doesn't, and for 150/500 ivtv doesn't and myth doesn't |
| [03:25:00] | PatrickDK: | even if ivtv worked |
| [03:26:00] | piksel: | does anyone have any ideas on how you could lock the computer screen if the mythtv front-end crashes, or gets exited? I have mythtv running on a machine in my living room, accessible to my room-mates, and I just want to ensure that they can't mess with the machine at all, and can only use mythtv. (I know they could insert a knoppix cd if they wanted to mess with stuff, etc, but I just want a |
| [03:26:00] | SarahEmm: | PatrickDK: right. it does from bttv or any other software-encoders tho |
| [03:26:00] | piksel: | little security) |
| [03:26:00] | SarahEmm: | PatrickDK: which is why i'm looking at building a powerful box with 2–3 software encoded cards in it heh |
| [03:26:00] | SarahEmm: | piksel: i start ym myth at boot, if it gets exited you just get a console login prompt |
| [03:26:00] | PatrickDK: | I don't think powerfull will be your issue |
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| [03:26:00] | PatrickDK: | pci bandwidth will be |
| [03:27:00] | SarahEmm: | ooh. really? |
| [03:27:00] | toggles: | how about a script that goes while(1) /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend; ? |
| [03:27:00] | ruiner: | ok, when i use 'mplayer tv://4 /dev/video0' I get a big solid green screen....is that a good thing or a bad thing? |
| [03:27:00] | PatrickDK: | ya, at 720x480, one card will use up your pci bandwidth |
| [03:27:00] | PatrickDK: | in thery you could use two cards, maybe 3 |
| [03:27:00] | PatrickDK: | but well, pci is one way, so well, you can't max it out |
| [03:27:00] | mchou: | ruiner: depends what you were trying to achieve :) |
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| [03:28:00] | ruiner: | mchou, i just want my card to work lol....i dont know what im doing!!1 =P |
| [03:28:00] | PatrickDK: | get a motherboard with multible pci backbackplanes |
| [03:28:00] | SarahEmm: | PatrickDK: hrm. is that common on desktop-level-motherboards? |
| [03:28:00] | PatrickDK: | and personally, those are very rare, unless you get into server motherboards, and those are normally going be 64bit slots |
| [03:28:00] | SarahEmm: | i know most of what i use at work has it, but i didn't think most desktop ones did |
| [03:28:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah.... |
| [03:28:00] | SarahEmm: | so i'm looking at needing multiple backends? |
| [03:28:00] | PatrickDK: | I have had one that did |
| [03:29:00] | ruiner: | mchou, i just want to be able to watch tv, someone in here told me to do that |
| [03:29:00] | PatrickDK: | but that was years ago |
| [03:29:00] | ruiner: | mchou, to test the card |
| [03:29:00] | PatrickDK: | yep |
| [03:29:00] | PatrickDK: | unless your not running at a full 720x480 |
| [03:29:00] | mchou: | ruiner: tvtime or xawtv would be my preference :) |
| [03:29:00] | PatrickDK: | I'm not sure what mythtv sets it up in, but if you use yuv9 you can save space |
| [03:29:00] | PatrickDK: | but I think it does full output |
| [03:29:00] | mchou: | ruiner: easier to use an set inputs |
| [03:30:00] | mchou: | and* |
| [03:30:00] | ruiner: | mchou, do i need one of those to use mythtv? |
| [03:30:00] | PatrickDK: | you maybe able to do two cards, but that is the most |
| [03:30:00] | SarahEmm: | PatrickDK: hrm. i guess i'm looking at likely needing multiple boxes then =/ |
| [03:30:00] | SarahEmm: | dang. |
| [03:30:00] | mchou: | ruiner: nope |
| [03:30:00] | SarahEmm: | that's not what i wanted to hear ;) |
| [03:30:00] | mchou: | ruiner: prorbaly wont need mplayer either for myth |
| [03:30:00] | ruiner: | mchou, i see, so if i just want to use mythtv, is my green screen good or bad? |
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| [03:30:00] | ruiner: | mchou, i use mplayer for mythvideo & mythmusic |
| [03:31:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, I don't think there is a way to change my framerate in myth, wish there was |
| [03:31:00] | PatrickDK: | want to set my framegrabbers to like 5fps |
| [03:32:00] | ruiner: | mchou, so is my green screen good or bad? |
| [03:32:00] | mchou: | ruiner: hehe, I get green screen too with mplayer, but not with tvtime/xawtv |
| [03:32:00] | ruiner: | mchou, ok...so i just need to get my mythsetup right then? |
| [03:32:00] | mchou: | ruiner: probably some command line issue for mplayer..... |
| [03:32:00] | mchou: | ruiner: no |
| [03:32:00] | mchou: | you need to make sure your tv card works first |
| [03:33:00] | ruiner: | mchou, so i actually DO need one of those programs.... |
| [03:33:00] | ruiner: | or i need to dig through mplayer settings.. |
| [03:33:00] | mchou: | ruiner: which part of DONT NEED dont you understand?? |
| [03:34:00] | ruiner: | mchou, ok then, just explain to me how to test my card? |
| [03:34:00] | mchou: | ruiner: I just did |
| [03:34:00] | mchou: | ruiner: what part of xawtv/tvtime dont you understand? |
| [03:35:00] | ruiner: | sorry, it sounds to me like you're telling me to use xawtv/tvtime to test my card, but also that i dont need xawtv/tvtime... |
| [03:36:00] | mchou: | ruiner: for myth, for the second part of the sentence, yes. |
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| [03:36:00] | ruiner: | ok |
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| [03:36:00] | mchou: | ruiner: and you dont need mplayer for myth either |
| [03:37:00] | mchou: | god, I should had know I was talking to a gentoo newb |
| [03:37:00] | mchou: | known* |
| [03:37:00] | mchou: | fscking clueless |
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| [03:41:00] | frox: | hello, i am trying to get my pvr-500mce working, but it keeps rebooting my system after about 10 seconds of livetv, i read there might be a compatability problem with my via chipset, but msi isn't going to release a new bios for a k7t-turbo board anytime soon, is there a workaround for this problem? |
| [03:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | mchou: As frustrating as it is, we are all newbies at some point |
| [03:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | and likely it or not each and every one of us is "clueless" from someone;s point of view |
| [03:43:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: it's just gentooers are more so |
| [03:43:00] | SarahEmm: | <-- gentoo grrl |
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| [03:44:00] | fiveiron: | anyone ever get "Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it" error? |
| [03:44:00] | fiveiron: | i still get tv, but its really weird colors |
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| [03:50:00] | ruiner: | mchou, you dont have to be a dick, i would have understood you perfectly if you hadnt contradicted yourself |
| [03:51:00] | jhoke: | ruht-roh... here comes the pissing match ;) |
| [03:52:00] | jhoke: | heh... just pop'd back while installing on other boxen |
| [03:54:00] | mchou: | ruiner: yeah, whatever, I contradicted myself..... |
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| [03:55:00] | fiveiron: | anyone ever get "Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it" error? |
| [03:55:00] | fiveiron: | i |
| [03:55:00] | fiveiron: | i'm using an ati tv-wonder |
| [03:55:00] | fiveiron: | could it be a driver issue? |
| [03:55:00] | SarahEmm: | err |
| [03:55:00] | SarahEmm: | original tv wonder? |
| [03:55:00] | SarahEmm: | or VE or SX or Pro or something? |
| [03:58:00] | fiveiron: | pro |
| [04:00:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh |
| [04:00:00] | SarahEmm: | need to specify that, it's an entirely different card than the TV Wonder :) |
| [04:01:00] | fiveiron: | sorry... :) |
| [04:02:00] | fiveiron: | anywho, i'm using knoppmyth, and everything seems to be working fine, except the video and audio are screwy |
| [04:02:00] | fiveiron: | so it would seem to be a driver thing |
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| [04:05:00] | olorijn: | Hi, I was wanting to put together a single mythtv box, using a Haupage PVR-350 & LeadTek WInfast 2000XP Expert capture cards, and a GeForce FX 5200 for TV Out... after a frustrating weekend with Fedora and drivers and /just/ managing to get some TV signal through the Winfast card, its just looking all too hard... would I be better trying knoppyth or another distro? |
| [04:05:00] | kevin__: | probably.... i understand its pretty tough to get two different tuner cards working simultaneously |
| [04:05:00] | kevin__: | did you have any luck with the 350? |
| [04:06:00] | fiveiron: | especially with some card all Winfast 2000XP.... |
| [04:06:00] | fiveiron: | that would seem to almost be a lost cause with linux |
| [04:06:00] | kevin__: | haha |
| [04:06:00] | olorijn: | I thought you needed two capture cards if you wanted to watch tv & record at the same time |
| [04:06:00] | kevin__: | thats correct |
| [04:06:00] | kevin__: | unless you're recording what you're watching at the same time |
| [04:07:00] | kevin__: | or you could watch an old recording whilst a new show is recording |
| [04:07:00] | v_thunder: | hmm, too bad 802.11b isn't quite enough to stream remotely |
| [04:07:00] | v_thunder: | it seems like it's *almost* fast enough |
| [04:07:00] | kevin__: | heh |
| [04:08:00] | olorijn: | whats the easiest distro / solution? |
| [04:08:00] | v_thunder: | would it help if I transcode to a mode compact format? (can I even do that?) |
| [04:08:00] | kevin__: | heres a brain buster..... I changed directories where myth records to. I got rid of 3 files from the old directory, but they still show up in the watch recordings menu. anyone done this before? |
| [04:08:00] | v_thunder: | olorijn: I used knoppmyth and it was reasonably easy |
| [04:09:00] | kevin__: | knoppmyth is supposed to be the easiest. I had great success with mandriva |
| [04:09:00] | kevin__: | v_thunder are you asking if you can transcode live TV to stream? |
| [04:09:00] | v_thunder: | oh, not live tv |
| [04:10:00] | kevin__: | heh.... i'd record, transcode, then ftp/ssh or something to remotely get them. whats your setup that you're working with? |
| [04:10:00] | v_thunder: | I mean, that would be sort of cool, but it sounds insane ;) |
| [04:10:00] | kevin__: | why not make a remote front end? |
| [04:10:00] | kevin__: | haha that'd be sweet |
| [04:10:00] | v_thunder: | that's what I'm using |
| [04:10:00] | v_thunder: | just a remote frontend |
| [04:10:00] | kevin__: | gotcha.... cool. backend and frontend in the same building? |
| [04:10:00] | v_thunder: | and recorded shows are as choppy as live tv |
| [04:11:00] | v_thunder: | yeah, backend is hooked up to the wireless ap |
| [04:11:00] | v_thunder: | (it's one of those linksys ap/100bT switches) |
| [04:11:00] | kevin__: | thats not working out? thats no fun |
| [04:11:00] | v_thunder: | no, I guess I need g |
| [04:12:00] | v_thunder: | it's not a huge surprise |
| [04:12:00] | v_thunder: | just wishful thinking on my part |
| [04:12:00] | kevin__: | don't know too much about it myself, haven't done much wireless other than like a windows workstation for web browsing |
| [04:12:00] | v_thunder: | I have another remote frontend which is wired and that one can stream okay |
| [04:12:00] | kevin__: | heh |
| [04:13:00] | v_thunder: | (obviously) |
| [04:13:00] | v_thunder: | :) |
| [04:13:00] | v_thunder: | though, I'm still having problems with the speed of the program guide |
| [04:14:00] | v_thunder: | mysql was suggested as the bottleneck, but I'm thinking it's not |
| [04:14:00] | v_thunder: | I don't really know how to to any sort of profiling |
| [04:14:00] | kevin__: | me neither dude, i'm a rookie here |
| [04:15:00] | v_thunder: | heh |
| [04:15:00] | kevin__: | i'm trying to dial in some transcoding settings |
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| [04:31:00] | poonj: | hey guys...is there a separate debian packaage that allows me to rip dvds into myth? |
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| [04:31:00] | poonj: | I got the mythdvd package, but it only allows me to play dvds.. |
| [04:31:00] | fiveiron: | anyone ever get "Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it" error? |
| [04:36:00] | Jetson123: | I suspect portions of the program guide data I'm downloading from zap2it.com are corrupted. Oddly, many of the channels I subscribe to through Zap2It have Unknown (Unknown) in the 9pm time slot |
| [04:37:00] | Jetson123: | 9pm seems to be the only trouble spot |
| [04:37:00] | SarahEmm: | i get that sometimes |
| [04:37:00] | SarahEmm: | if i refresh today/tomorrow data (and the bad spot is in today/tomorrow) manually, it fixes it |
| [04:37:00] | SarahEmm: | i get hours with NO DATA on the guide fairly frequently |
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| [04:38:00] | Jetson123: | The blank spots seem to last from 9pm until 11:30p |
| [04:38:00] | Jetson123: | SarahEhm – you mean running mythfilldatabase manually fixes the issue? |
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| [04:39:00] | SarahEmm: | mythfilldatabase with the refresh today/tomorrow option |
| [04:39:00] | SarahEmm: | for me it usually fixes it |
| [04:40:00] | Jetson123: | I'll try it |
| [04:43:00] | poonj: | anyone here know how to get the dvd module to rip cds? |
| [04:43:00] | poonj: | is there an extra package I need from somewhere? |
| [04:44:00] | poonj: | or setup? |
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| [04:48:00] | Akka: | Hey chances are this question is asked many many times. but if you have digital cable defeat the purpose of mythtv? sure itll still work but it wouldnt be the ultimate pvr system cause to record something youd have to switch to the cable box change to the channel then back to the mythtv to record. thus being somewhat complicated and fustrating. but if it is like that then it would jsut be a vcr nothing more. |
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| [04:49:00] | Akka: | You would have to primarily use the cable box for program guide and such because thats the way to change the channels anyway. |
| [04:49:00] | SarahEmm: | mythtv can send IR to the cable box for you, emulating your remote |
| [04:49:00] | SarahEmm: | so you don't have to do that |
| [04:50:00] | Akka: | i know but then mythtv would be just liek a vcr nothing more. |
| [04:50:00] | Akka: | why would you nee the viewing guide, pip, and the other things? |
| [04:51:00] | Akka: | with a digital cable box it wouldnt be feasible to utilize mythtv to itsfull potential |
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| [04:52:00] | Jetson123: | Sarah – your suggestion fixed the data for today and tomorrow (and you indicated). Is there any way to fix all 14 days of programming data in the system? |
| [04:52:00] | SarahEmm: | well, it's a little better than a VCR :) |
| [04:52:00] | SarahEmm: | Jetson123: not that i've found easilly. if you find one, let me know :) is it broken for all days? usually for me it's just broken for one day |
| [04:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | Akka: uhhh sure it would |
| [04:52:00] | SarahEmm: | Akka: i can't tell my VCR 'record program named 'ostriches inc.' whenever it's on' :) |
| [04:52:00] | fiveiron: | my listings seem to be about 5 hours off of the actual time they are supposed to be on... any idea on how to fix that? |
| [04:52:00] | SarahEmm: | and web interface and such... |
| [04:52:00] | SarahEmm: | i won't go on and on, but it's still a big functionality improvement aka :) |
| [04:52:00] | SarahEmm: | +k |
| [04:53:00] | Akka: | This is true but you would have to cahnge the channel via the cable box so telling it to record "ostriches" wouldnt work cause it wouldnt find all the channels |
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| [04:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Akka: You just configure an IR blaster to send the IR signals to the cablebox |
| [04:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | and then myth will basically fake being your remote control to change to the proper channel |
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| [04:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or depending on the box it might be sent via the serial port or possibly over firewire |
| [04:55:00] | Umaro: | Hey guys.. I just installed mythtv with knoppmyth (wanted to see it working before I went through the source install).. having some troubles getting it to output to my geforce 2 properly, via svideo. anyone here using this kind of setup that could help me? |
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| [04:56:00] | Umaro: | I've tried googling for info, but I can't find anything that I haven't already tried |
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| [04:57:00] | fiveiron: | my listings seem to be about 5 hours off of the actual time they are supposed to be on... any idea on how to fix that? |
| [04:57:00] | Umaro: | fiveiron: sounds like a timezone thing? |
| [04:57:00] | DarkBeer: | fix your timezone |
| [04:57:00] | fiveiron: | in mythtv? |
| [04:57:00] | fiveiron: | or my os? |
| [04:59:00] | Akka: | what im getting at is using mythtv primarily. you really cant with the cable box from what ive seen so far. because mythtv cant decode the digital channels. thats what teh cable box is for. so hooking tehm all up in line like normally. meaning to record something on a digital channel would require you to change the channel on the cable box then start recording on mythtv. thats what ive seen so far. |
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| [04:59:00] | Akka: | that being the case then it is merely a vcr. but since you have to primarily use the cable box for tv viewing why use the mythtvs features like that? |
| [05:00:00] | ShockValue: | Akka: what if mythtv changed the chanels onthe box for you? |
| [05:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | You still are not making much sense. |
| [05:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you want Myth to record Digital cable stuff then it much be connected to the Digital box preferably with a method in place to changce channels |
| [05:01:00] | Akka: | Evidently ive seen morons use their myhtvs itll change the channels huh? |
| [05:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yes, If you set things up correctly |
| [05:01:00] | ShockValue: | My MythTV changes the channel on my DirecTV box. Im sure its capable of digital cable too |
| [05:02:00] | ShockValue: | I never touch my directv box. myth tells it what to do |
| [05:02:00] | Akka: | I see. I have thought about doing this myself, as in build a mythtv, but im just looking around and making sure it doesnt end up a pain in the ass like the ones ive seen |
| [05:02:00] | Akka: | plus im not the biggest linux guy either. i can use it but other than that im lost |
| [05:03:00] | ShockValue: | thats how i am.. but i like "projects".. which mythtv was.. but i got it working with some tinkering |
| [05:03:00] | ShockValue: | but all i really want is a 35 foot blue water worthy sailboat... and you can have my mythtv |
| [05:03:00] | Akka: | haha |
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| [05:04:00] | ** GreyFoxx is on the hunt for a TS -> PS converter app or a way to use transcode to convert them ** | |
| [05:04:00] | Akka: | Im looking to just make one with a 10 gig hard drive and just have a dvd recorder in it. thats about it |
| [05:04:00] | ShockValue: | im not sure how burning works in mythtv... never had the oportunity :) |
| [05:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | 10G is not a lot of space :) |
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| [05:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Myth doesn't burn for you, thought I think someone out there made a mythburn app or possibly plugin which might do the job |
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| [05:06:00] | Akka: | I see. well taht would be a plus to just make it a dvr |
| [05:06:00] | ShockValue: | dont you think that "call for price" should not be included in price range searches? thats so irritating. |
| [05:06:00] | Akka: | im not totally looking to spend money on this thing |
| [05:07:00] | ShockValue: | i put in 1-$10,000 for a sailboat, and the first 3 pages are million dollar boats with "call for price!" |
| [05:07:00] | Akka: | i have like a 1.1 ghz athlon and a gig of ram ready to use. but im not looking to make it a money pit like my Hackintosh |
| [05:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Akka: that should be fine |
| [05:10:00] | Akka: | how much would it run for decent capture cards and such. cause i havent really seen tutorials for the best performace Mythtvs |
| [05:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, the most popular by far are the pvr 250, 150 and 500 's by Hauppage |
| [05:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | then can run as low as $69USD for the 150 to $180 for the 500 |
| [05:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | most people use the 250's and 150's. |
| [05:12:00] | Akka: | that isnt horribly bad. |
| [05:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | then have onboard mpeg compression so it uses no CPU to capture and compress the video |
| [05:12:00] | Akka: | i spent close to 800 on parts for a Mactel machine |
| [05:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | the cheap frame grabbers require gobs of CPU for realtime compression |
| [05:13:00] | Akka: | so i pretty much need one of those capture cards adn just a tv out card? |
| [05:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | and as much diskspace as you want to have |
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| [05:15:00] | Akka: | Yeah thats something i Dont have. haha. wish it just burned to media. Also what about the xbox release. isnt THAT worthless other than just being the frontend? |
| [05:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's just afrontend |
| [05:16:00] | Akka: | yeah |
| [05:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | of course if you hookup one of the usb tuners it might be usable as a backend as well |
| [05:17:00] | Akka: | that is true. i had a dazzle usb capture a few years back. it was terrible and choppy |
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| [05:20:00] | Akka: | what about the universal remote things ive seen. from what i read i can use any universal remote to do so |
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| [05:27:00] | thechris: | hey, does anyone know of any mythtv alternatives? |
| [05:27:00] | thechris: | stuff to try out |
| [05:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | google does |
| [05:28:00] | hadees: | google knows everything, google's my best friend |
| [05:29:00] | hadees: | man i wish mythtv had a podcast plugin |
| [05:29:00] | thechris: | or a delete multiple files plugin... |
| [05:29:00] | hadees: | thechris, huh? |
| [05:30:00] | hadees: | first that wouldn't be a plugin and second what are you talking about |
| [05:30:00] | thechris: | mythtv wasn't made for how i watch tv — i record all programs i might watch |
| [05:30:00] | thechris: | more then i do watch |
| [05:30:00] | hadees: | thechris, same here |
| [05:30:00] | thechris: | then i have to delete the ones i don't watch one by one... |
| [05:30:00] | thechris: | or remove them with the CL |
| [05:30:00] | hadees: | thechris, um use autoexpire |
| [05:31:00] | hadees: | when it runs out of room it deletes for you |
| [05:31:00] | thechris: | i'm sure that'll work just as good as auto-transcode... |
| [05:31:00] | thechris: | which didn't |
| [05:32:00] | hadees: | well i do'nt use auto-transcode so i wouldn't know but auto expire works perfect for me |
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| [05:32:00] | sugarrayjay12345: | whats the purpose of mysql within a mythtv setup? is it for tv listings? |
| [05:32:00] | hadees: | thechris, if mythtv an't your boat buy a tivo |
| [05:32:00] | thechris: | well, i was thinking of building an alternative |
| [05:33:00] | thechris: | like a bash script |
| [05:33:00] | thechris: | and cron job |
| [05:33:00] | thechris: | simple stuff |
| [05:33:00] | thechris: | after all, i can't even view MPEG on the computer that runs the PVR... |
| [05:33:00] | hadees: | that sounds much better than a nice TV interface |
| [05:33:00] | thechris: | oh, its not hooked to a TV |
| [05:33:00] | thechris: | video card doesn't even do MPEG in X |
| [05:34:00] | thechris: | which i found a bit bizzar |
| [05:34:00] | thechris: | but i can still record and stream over the network |
| [05:34:00] | hadees: | what do you mean it doesn't do mpeg in x |
| [05:34:00] | hadees: | x shouldn't have anything to do with mpeg |
| [05:34:00] | hadees: | the software should decode it |
| [05:34:00] | thechris: | anytime i try to view MPEG it doesn't show up |
| [05:35:00] | thechris: | i get a still image |
| [05:35:00] | thechris: | in mythtv, xine, ect... |
| [05:35:00] | thechris: | its not really an issue given that i don't have a monitor attached to the computer... |
| [05:35:00] | hadees: | you try mplayer |
| [05:35:00] | thechris: | yeah |
| [05:35:00] | hadees: | so wait you don't hook it to a tv and there isn't a monitor |
| [05:36:00] | hadees: | you just like listening to tv shows? |
| [05:36:00] | thechris: | tcp |
| [05:36:00] | thechris: | i stream the recordings to computers that have monitors |
| [05:41:00] | sugarrayjay12345: | whats the purpose of mysql within a mythtv setup? is it for tv listings? |
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| [05:43:00] | thechris: | sugarrayjay12345: it does a bunch of stuff |
| [05:43:00] | sugarrayjay12345: | configuration and tv listings? |
| [05:43:00] | thechris: | settings, listings, keep track of recordings |
| [05:43:00] | sugarrayjay12345: | what are the main examples |
| [05:44:00] | sugarrayjay12345: | ok, thanks |
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| [05:53:00] | Chipdancer: | afternoon all |
| [05:56:00] | Chipdancer: | does anybody know anything about XvMC or similar mechanisms to get performance out of Radeon cards? (specifically 9700 Pro) |
| [05:57:00] | mchou: | hmm, dont think radeons support XvMC, afaik...... |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | but radeons do support iDCT and MC :) |
| [05:59:00] | mchou: | beats me whether they expose that functionality in their linux drivers though...... |
| [05:59:00] | mchou: | maybe thru DRI or some such? |
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| [06:06:00] | Chipdancer: | hrmm... what's iDCT and MC? |
| [06:06:00] | Chipdancer: | basically, I want to push as much graphics processing (decoding) off to the Radeon board as possible |
| [06:06:00] | Chipdancer: | (as one would expect) |
| [06:06:00] | thechris: | dct = discrete cosine transform i guess |
| [06:07:00] | Chipdancer: | I have an old NVidia Ti4200 card as well and if I can't do it with the Radeon board, I might want to go back to that even though it's only ~half as fast under normal conditions |
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| [06:20:00] | Chipdancer: | thechris: will just installing the proprietary ATI driver be sufficient to getting the performance improvements for HDTV? |
| [06:21:00] | thechris: | i have no idea. i stay far away from ATI |
| [06:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey mchou you here |
| [06:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I saw you speak above |
| [06:21:00] | thechris: | i just know a bit about DSP and the DCT/FFT |
| [06:25:00] | Chipdancer: | I know DSP and FFT, but what's DCT? |
| [06:26:00] | mchou: | discrete cosine transform |
| [06:26:00] | Chipdancer: | ahh, right. |
| [06:26:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: what's up? |
| [06:26:00] | Chipdancer: | of course.. as you said above ref'ing iDCT |
| [06:26:00] | Chipdancer: | short of the ATI Linux driver home, can anybody point me to any references/resources on HDTV decoding with ATI drivers/cards? |
| [06:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, may I pvt msg you? |
| [06:27:00] | mchou: | afaik geforce4ti only supports iDCT but not MC (or vice versa) |
| [06:27:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: yeah.... |
| [06:27:00] | mchou: | so geforce4ti wont even work too well |
| [06:28:00] | Chipdancer: | what's MC? |
| [06:28:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: hold on just one sec. |
| [06:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sure thing |
| [06:29:00] | mchou: | Chipdancer: Motion Compensation |
| [06:29:00] | Chipdancer: | ahh, cool |
| [06:29:00] | mchou: | Chipdancer: get a cheap MX4000 and get it over with :) |
| [06:30:00] | Chipdancer: | hehe |
| [06:30:00] | Chipdancer: | thanks... pity I want to dual boot this machine |
| [06:30:00] | Chipdancer: | most of what I'm recording is in SDTV format anyhow as I want to be able to playback from an XBox... but there are some shows that do come in HD and are an improvement over SD (so it appears)... |
| [06:30:00] | Chipdancer: | so it's not a major concern, but would be nice |
| [06:32:00] | mchou: | Chipdancer: huh??? |
| [06:34:00] | Chipdancer: | the major reason I want to get the full HW acceleration working is to decode HDTV on this machine. it can decode SDTV (PAL/NTSC) no problems. The XBox only has capacity to decode SDTV (possibly lower res HDTV, but never tried). I record most of my material in SDTV (partly because I cannot decode it on any of my current hardware, partly because the XBox can only seem to do SDTV) |
| [06:34:00] | mchou: | xbox aint beefy enough for HDTV :) |
| [06:34:00] | Chipdancer: | no, P3–700 or something inside, I think. |
| [06:34:00] | Chipdancer: | and not enough work seems to have gone into drivers for the video hardware to get it to decode HD in HW. |
| [06:35:00] | Krazylegz: | 700mhz Celeron in an XBox. |
| [06:35:00] | Chipdancer: | I knew it was 700Mhz something |
| [06:35:00] | Chipdancer: | P3 class Celeron anyhow :P |
| [06:36:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, yeah, but it's still a Celeron. |
| [06:36:00] | mchou: | bah, a celeron aint so bad. some celerons are better than full blown P3s |
| [06:37:00] | Chipdancer: | mchou: why's that? |
| [06:37:00] | Chipdancer: | I don't see how it's possible |
| [06:38:00] | mchou: | I dont recallspecifically, but some celerons have some extra instruction set or some such thing..... |
| [06:39:00] | Krazylegz: | Celeron-D? |
| [06:40:00] | mchou: | forget which..... |
| [06:40:00] | Krazylegz: | Lots of good you are. :-P |
| [06:45:00] | NightBird: | Hey, is there a good way to convert the nuv from mythtv to avi in windows? |
| [06:46:00] | NightBird: | I've not had good luck with getting programs that do it in linux to work properly |
| [06:47:00] | mchou: | bah. If you had HW encoder you dont need to convert :) |
| [06:48:00] | NightBird: | I do |
| [06:48:00] | NightBird: | I have a pvr 150 |
| [06:48:00] | Krazylegz: | You could maybe use VLC for Windows. |
| [06:48:00] | NightBird: | I use VLC to play it |
| [06:49:00] | NightBird: | can I use it to encode it into something else? |
| [06:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes. |
| [06:49:00] | NightBird: | ah |
| [06:49:00] | Krazylegz: | You can also use it to encode on the fly. |
| [06:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Er, transcode on the fly. |
| [06:49:00] | NightBird: | ah |
| [06:50:00] | NightBird: | I see |
| [06:50:00] | NightBird: | ok then |
| [06:50:00] | NightBird: | thanks |
| [06:50:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm. Yes. Indeed. |
| [06:51:00] | Krazylegz: | NightBird: http://www.videolan.org/streaming/features.html |
| [06:51:00] | Krazylegz: | NightBird: http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/e . . . tml#id295553 |
| [06:51:00] | Krazylegz: | Those two should keep you busy. |
| [06:52:00] | mchou: | NightBird: if you have HW encoder windoes media player will play it :) |
| [06:52:00] | Krazylegz: | That is also true. |
| [06:54:00] | NightBird: | yeah, but it doesn't like the container format though, does it? |
| [06:54:00] | mchou: | NightBird: just use samba to share the videos :) |
| [06:55:00] | mchou: | NightBird: it doesnt give a shit cause HW .nuv is mpeg :) |
| [06:58:00] | Krazylegz: | PVR-150 should be like MPEG-PS. |
| [06:58:00] | Chipdancer: | can pvr 150 transcode to full MPEG4 at HDTV/1080i? |
| [06:58:00] | Krazylegz: | PVR-150 can only encode to MPEG2 (MPEG-PS, specifically). |
| [06:58:00] | Chipdancer: | ahh, bummer.. that's DVB-T source format |
| [06:58:00] | Krazylegz: | Besides, a PVR-150 cannot take your HDTV signals anyway. |
| [06:59:00] | Chipdancer: | no, but if it could be passed data to transcode in hw from the bus/program |
| [06:59:00] | Chipdancer: | (instead from external input) |
| [06:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Huh? |
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| [06:59:00] | NightBird: | so I could just rename it as .mpg and everything would work? |
| [06:59:00] | Krazylegz: | You want to record raw HDTV, then send it to your PVR-150 for encoding, and then get it back? |
| [06:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes. |
| [06:59:00] | Chipdancer: | ie, use the HW enc processor on the board to transcode data on HDD rather than just input stream from svideo/composite |
| [07:00:00] | NightBird: | huh |
| [07:00:00] | Chipdancer: | don't have a PVR150.. just curious if it could output MPEG4 |
| [07:00:00] | Chipdancer: | or if anythign can output MPEG4... |
| [07:00:00] | NightBird: | ok, so I can use the video editing software instead, huh? |
| [07:00:00] | Krazylegz: | Nope. |
| [07:00:00] | Chipdancer: | if so, it'd be good to get a unit taht can transcode MPEG2 to MPEG4 |
| [07:00:00] | Krazylegz: | Chipdancer: There are some MPEG4 encoder boards out there. The Hauppauge PVR-150 is not one of them. |
| [07:00:00] | Chipdancer: | otherwise I'll need to use lots of CPU time |
| [07:01:00] | Krazylegz: | Meh. I transcode MPEG2 to MPEG4, it doesn't take mythtranscode very long. |
| [07:01:00] | Krazylegz: | nuvexport is slow, or so I hear. |
| [07:01:00] | Chipdancer: | Krazylegz: what do you use, if not nuvexport? |
| [07:01:00] | Chipdancer: | oh, mythtranscode |
| [07:01:00] | Krazylegz: | mythtranscode. |
| [07:01:00] | Chipdancer: | yeah, sorry |
| [07:01:00] | Chipdancer: | what CPU? |
| [07:01:00] | Chipdancer: | my backend is only a dual P3–550 with 1Gb RAM |
| [07:02:00] | Krazylegz: | 2.26Ghz Celeron-D. |
| [07:02:00] | Chipdancer: | I assume you're getting similar quality levels? |
| [07:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes. |
| [07:03:00] | Krazylegz: | At least, I think so. |
| [07:03:00] | Chipdancer: | what is the space comparison like? |
| [07:03:00] | Krazylegz: | 1/4–1/8 the space. |
| [07:03:00] | Chipdancer: | MPEG2 seems to be ~3Gb/hour for PAL/SDTV |
| [07:03:00] | Chipdancer: | so, about 500Mb/hour? |
| [07:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, I'm about about 2–2.25GB/hour for MPEG2 NTSC. |
| [07:04:00] | Chipdancer: | have you tried MPEG4 1080i playback at all? |
| [07:05:00] | Chipdancer: | just curious if it will require more CPU than MPEG2 1080i or about the same... |
| [07:05:00] | Krazylegz: | I can't do HDTV. |
| [07:05:00] | Chipdancer: | ahh, bummer |
| [07:05:00] | Chipdancer: | can't do, or don't receive? |
| [07:05:00] | Krazylegz: | Both. |
| [07:06:00] | Chipdancer: | I guess a 2.26Ghz Cel-D probably can't.. :) |
| [07:06:00] | Krazylegz: | PVR-350, standard cable, 20" Sony Wega. |
| [07:06:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, it could. |
| [07:06:00] | Krazylegz: | I also only have 22GB of hard drive space for recordings. |
| [07:06:00] | ** Chipdancer nods ** | |
| [07:07:00] | Chipdancer: | I just upgraded, now have about 700Gb for recordings |
| [07:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Nice. |
| [07:07:00] | Chipdancer: | (4x 250Gb SATA + AAR2410SA-ENC kit) |
| [07:07:00] | Chipdancer: | in RAID5 |
| [07:07:00] | Krazylegz: | I need to get me one of those new fangled hard drives. |
| [07:07:00] | ** Krazylegz is not as bling as Chipdancer ** | |
| [07:07:00] | ** Chipdancer grins.. took over a year of negotiations with partner to get the kit ** | |
| [07:08:00] | Chipdancer: | I have 2 of those kits, one is the mythtv box the other is the backup/file server |
| [07:08:00] | Chipdancer: | both of them are each in their own Compaq DL1600R dual P3–550/1Gb RAM servers |
| [07:08:00] | ** Chipdancer is very happy with the mythbox now... 3 DVB-T tuners and it runs really well as a backend ** | |
| [07:09:00] | mchou: | KraMer: man, you gotta get a new drive..... |
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| [07:09:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: man, you gotta get a new drive..... |
| [07:09:00] | ** Chipdancer laughs ** | |
| [07:10:00] | Chipdancer: | gotta love mistabcompletion |
| [07:10:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm working on it. I want to buy a house instead. :-) |
| [07:10:00] | Krazylegz: | If the house doesn't work out, I'll get a new hard drive and a motorcycle. |
| [07:15:00] | Chipdancer: | Krazylegz: what bike? |
| [07:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Suzuki SV650. |
| [07:19:00] | Krazylegz: | I just got my motorcycle license today. |
| [07:19:00] | Chipdancer: | nice bike |
| [07:19:00] | Chipdancer: | don't get yourself killed |
| [07:20:00] | Chipdancer: | lots of fun in that bike |
| [07:21:00] | Krazylegz: | I think it's less dangerous that other bikes. |
| [07:21:00] | Krazylegz: | At least, other bikes that I would consider. |
| [07:21:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: get a bike anyways. Think of the money you save on gas :) |
| [07:21:00] | Krazylegz: | I work from home. |
| [07:22:00] | Krazylegz: | Hence, I'm on IRC at random times. |
| [07:23:00] | mchou: | heh, that saves even more gas :) |
| [07:23:00] | Krazylegz: | Yep. |
| [07:23:00] | Krazylegz: | I want to talk to the insurance company, and explain that my car is now used for pleasure, not commuting. |
| [07:24:00] | Krazylegz: | That should knock it down a few bucks. Also, if I get the house, it would go down anyway. Garaged, and in a better area. |
| [07:25:00] | mchou: | bah, sell the car, get the bike instead. |
| [07:25:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh. It's a 2000 Audi S4, and it will NOT be sold. |
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| [07:26:00] | Krazylegz: | Besides, we have this white stuff sometimes, we call it snow. :-) |
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| [07:28:00] | mchou: | convert the bike to a snowmobile :) |
| [07:29:00] | Krazylegz: | I am not selling my car. Can I just get the bike anyway? |
| [07:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm. |
| [07:30:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: why you so attached to that car? it's made by volkswagon, for gods sake :) |
| [07:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Then you and I clearly need to go for a drive. |
| [07:30:00] | Krazylegz: | My mom has a Passat, actually. |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: I've driven an audi. My bro has one. it's nothing special |
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| [07:32:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, I really don't care whether or not you would sell my car, because I'm keeping it. :-P |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | In fact it breaks down just like a VW does :) |
| [07:32:00] | Krazylegz: | More, to be honest. |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | exactly :) |
| [07:32:00] | Krazylegz: | The bike isn't going to be more reliable than a reliable car. |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | what breaks on a bike that you cant fix yourself? :) |
| [07:33:00] | Krazylegz: | A car that is more reliable than mine would still be more reliable than the motorcycle. |
| [07:33:00] | Krazylegz: | Ask me that same question about my car. ;-) |
| [07:33:00] | sandos: | Chipdancer: I just tried mpeg2 720p on this slow-ass 1600+ athlon XP.. it WORKED smoothly... |
| [07:34:00] | sandos: | its the first even hdtv-clip Ive managed to play with this machine |
| [07:34:00] | sandos: | ever |
| [07:34:00] | Chipdancer: | sandos: video card? any HW accel? |
| [07:34:00] | Chipdancer: | just using mythfrontend? |
| [07:34:00] | sandos: | no, sadly this is a windows machine, but imo 2,2Ghz cel-d should be able to play 1080i mpeg2 with no hw accel... I think |
| [07:35:00] | sandos: | this has no accel at all and generally seem to suck at playing video |
| [07:35:00] | Chipdancer: | the 1.7Ghz Celeron balks at HDTV |
| [07:36:00] | Chipdancer: | but I'm upgrading the CPU to a 2.8Ghz P4, so hopefully, regardless of HW accel, it should work |
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| [07:45:00] | jhoke: | feh |
| [07:45:00] | jhoke: | re's |
| [07:45:00] | jhoke: | has anyone compiled the SVN code on a SuSE 9.3 x64 box? |
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| [07:51:00] | jhoke: | bah... getting compiler errors as itas looking for /usr/lib/qt3–3/lib/libqt-mt.prl when it should be looking for /usr/lib/qt3–3/lib64/libqt-mt.prl |
| [07:52:00] | jhoke: | enough for tonight... more tomorrow |
| [07:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Create a symlink for now? |
| [07:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Where did mchou go? |
| [07:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | away for moment |
| [07:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Bring him back! :-) |
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| [08:01:00] | Chipdancer: | anybody here involved with the MacOSX frontend project? (or if not, have you used it and tried edit mode?) |
| [08:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm. GreyFoxx has Myth working on FreeBSD. |
| [08:03:00] | Krazylegz: | So, maybe OSX wouldn't be too bad. |
| [08:04:00] | Chipdancer: | there is a frontend port that does playback quite well, but I'm getting crashing/freezing as soon as I try to enter edit mode |
| [08:04:00] | Chipdancer: | works fine on a linux host |
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| [09:31:00] | KaZeR: | hey Fosten :) |
| [09:32:00] | Krazylegz: | HI KaZeR!!! |
| [09:32:00] | KaZeR: | hi Krazylegz :) |
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| [09:33:00] | Fosten: | hey KaZer :-) |
| [09:34:00] | Fosten: | does anybody have a pundit-r? |
| [09:34:00] | Krazylegz: | I do. |
| [09:34:00] | Fosten: | have you got ati tv-out working? |
| [09:34:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes. |
| [09:34:00] | Fosten: | for me it works, but the video is choppy |
| [09:34:00] | ** Krazylegz is watching Who's the Boss ;-) ** | |
| [09:35:00] | Krazylegz: | That's odd. |
| [09:35:00] | Krazylegz: | Is it choppy on a monitor? |
| [09:35:00] | Fosten: | no |
| [09:35:00] | Krazylegz: | Interesting. |
| [09:36:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, what do you want to know? |
| [09:39:00] | KaZeR: | Krazylegz, could we have your xorg.conf file? |
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| [09:39:00] | KaZeR: | Krazylegz, what distro are you running? |
| [09:39:00] | Fosten: | i am running gentoo OS, media-video/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r5 |
| [09:39:00] | Krazylegz: | KnoppMyth. |
| [09:39:00] | Krazylegz: | Which version of bttv is that? |
| [09:40:00] | KaZeR: | bttv? |
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| [09:40:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah. |
| [09:41:00] | KaZeR: | Fosten, uname -a ? |
| [09:41:00] | Fosten: | 2.6.12-gentoo-r10 |
| [09:42:00] | Krazylegz: | http://www.hitracker.com/audi/pictures/XF86Config-4 |
| [09:43:00] | KaZeR: | Krazylegz, SV650 rox btw :) |
| [09:43:00] | KaZeR: | i'm looking to buy a fazer first :) (no pun with my nick :) |
| [09:44:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha, thanks. |
| [09:44:00] | Krazylegz: | I just got my license today. |
| [09:45:00] | Chipdancer: | KaZeR: you're going straight to a Fazer! You're MAD! |
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| [09:45:00] | KaZeR: | got mine one year ago, but i can't afford the bike yet |
| [09:45:00] | KaZeR: | Chipdancer, why? |
| [09:45:00] | Chipdancer: | now that's a fun bike, but one that would get someone killed really quickly |
| [09:45:00] | Krazylegz: | I'll just get me a Jixxer. |
| [09:45:00] | Chipdancer: | it's an aweful lot of power for someone without a lot of riding experience |
| [09:46:00] | Krazylegz: | I wanted a CBR600F4 for a really long time, but now I know better. |
| [09:46:00] | KaZeR: | Chipdancer, i already drive one, and i found it was a good bike (although my experience is quite limited: :) |
| [09:46:00] | rage-: | what tables in the mythconverg database are used for the epg? |
| [09:46:00] | KaZeR: | Chipdancer, i think Krazylegz's sv650 is more dangerous, don't you agree? |
| [09:46:00] | Chipdancer: | nope, I think an FZ1 is much more dangerous than an SV640 |
| [09:46:00] | Chipdancer: | 650 rather :P |
| [09:47:00] | KaZeR: | really? |
| [09:47:00] | Chipdancer: | it's a semi naked R1.. how many more powerful bikes are there out there? not a hell of a lot |
| [09:47:00] | Chipdancer: | (stock, that is) |
| [09:47:00] | Krazylegz: | Terbo 'Busa is what you need. |
| [09:48:00] | KaZeR: | Chipdancer, i should have precised that i'm talking of the previous fazer :) |
| [09:48:00] | Chipdancer: | KaZeR: what's the previous one? |
| [09:48:00] | Chipdancer: | the FZ1's been around for a few years now. |
| [09:48:00] | Krazylegz: | rage-: program table. |
| [09:49:00] | KaZeR: | this one exaclty http://www.mc-nett.no/yamaha/02-yamaha/yamaha . . . -fazer-3.jpg |
| [09:49:00] | Chipdancer: | ahh, right.. I recall that model now ;) |
| [09:49:00] | Chipdancer: | that's not so bad thewn.. and I see where you're coming from |
| [09:49:00] | KaZeR: | i'm from france :) |
| [09:50:00] | Chipdancer: | ahh, right.. the traffic is horrendous over there :P |
| [09:50:00] | Chipdancer: | though, Italy's worse ;) |
| [09:50:00] | KaZeR: | ever been to france ? |
| [09:50:00] | Krazylegz: | How can you clean the mythconverg database? Does mythfilldatabase do it? |
| [09:51:00] | rage-: | Krazylegz, I can't get the epg to fill at all — does the epg basically work by finding the xmltvid number from the channel table, then looking to to the program table for the chanid that matches? or does the channel's table chanid need to match the program chanid? |
| [09:51:00] | KaZeR: | Krazylegz, old datas are erased by mlythfilldatabase. |
| [09:51:00] | Krazylegz: | KaZeR: That's what I thought. Thanks. |
| [09:51:00] | KaZeR: | np :) |
| [09:52:00] | Krazylegz: | rage-: I'd check the programs table first. |
| [09:52:00] | rage-: | well I've got listings in the programs table, lets say with chanid 5 for a row |
| [09:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Okay. |
| [09:52:00] | rage-: | I've then got a row in my channel table with a xmltvid of 5 |
| [09:53:00] | rage-: | but the chanid is different |
| [09:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh. |
| [09:53:00] | rage-: | do the chanids need to match? |
| [09:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Have you run mythfilldatabase? |
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| [09:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Let me look. |
| [09:53:00] | rage-: | see I thuoght the xmltvid from the channel table needed to match the chanid of the program table |
| [09:53:00] | rage-: | thought* |
| [09:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, looks like it does have to. |
| [09:54:00] | rage-: | ok |
| [09:54:00] | rage-: | what purpose does the xmltvid column serve then? heh |
| [09:54:00] | KaZeR: | Chipdancer, you said, "and I see where you're coming from". wasn't this model sold in AU ? |
| [09:55:00] | Chipdancer: | KaZeR: it might have been, but I really only paid attention to the FZ1 as I was considering it a couple of years ago |
| [09:55:00] | Krazylegz: | rage-: No idea. |
| [09:56:00] | rage-: | alright, well thanks Krazylegz |
| [09:56:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | anyone here use tv_grab_jp? |
| [09:56:00] | rage-: | I'll give that a shot |
| [09:56:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | I'm getting no program info for nihon terebi |
| [09:56:00] | KaZeR: | ok Chipdancer |
| [09:56:00] | Krazylegz: | rage-: Did you run mythfilldatabase again though? |
| [09:56:00] | rage-: | I did a mythfilldatabase --file |
| [09:56:00] | Chipdancer: | gotta run |
| [09:56:00] | Chipdancer: | ciao |
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| [09:57:00] | KaZeR: | Krazylegz, do you know which driver is used by X ? |
| [09:58:00] | Krazylegz: | KaZeR: You mean in my XF86Config? |
| [09:59:00] | Krazylegz: | rage-: Why did you do that instead? |
| [09:59:00] | KaZeR: | Krazylegz, on your system :) |
| [10:00:00] | rage-: | Krazylegz, I'm manually importing my listings |
| [10:00:00] | KaZeR: | mmm fglrx |
| [10:00:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah. |
| [10:00:00] | KaZeR: | is it installed by knoppmyth or did you do it by hand? |
| [10:01:00] | Krazylegz: | KnoppMyth. |
| [10:01:00] | KaZeR: | ok |
| [10:02:00] | KaZeR: | that's what we're using too with Fosten. and the latest release. weird. |
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| [10:02:00] | Fosten: | i thought so |
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| [10:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Fosten, KaZeR: http://www.parker1.co.uk/mythtv.php |
| [10:03:00] | Krazylegz: | So, I guess I did do it manually, and forgot. :-) |
| [10:03:00] | KaZeR: | thanks Krazylegz |
| [10:03:00] | KaZeR: | hehe :) |
| [10:04:00] | KaZeR: | uh editing the binary. |
| [10:06:00] | Krazylegz: | It's not so bad. |
| [10:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Just do what he says and you'll be fine. |
| [10:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Also, I'm using XFree, not Xorg. |
| [10:08:00] | Krazylegz: | Paste here if you guys figure that out on gentoo. I am going to switch from KnoppMyth to Gentoo when I get a bigger hard drive. |
| [10:08:00] | KaZeR: | hehe :) |
| [10:08:00] | KaZeR: | in fact, Fosten is kindly building a howto : http://freethefuture.com/pvr |
| [10:08:00] | Krazylegz: | Awesome. |
| [10:09:00] | KaZeR: | we're still working to finish some details, but it's almost done. |
| [10:09:00] | KaZeR: | and we're thinking of a gentoo/mythtv install script. |
| [10:09:00] | Krazylegz: | That would be nice. |
| [10:09:00] | Fosten: | lol, the ati tv-out section is kazer and i's conversation the other night... i still haven't edited it yet |
| [10:09:00] | KaZeR: | raw datas :) |
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| [10:11:00] | KaZeR: | Krazylegz, nice porsche btw :) |
| [10:11:00] | Krazylegz: | http://odin.prohosting.com/wedge01/gentoo-rad . . . ml#3_howinst |
| [10:12:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, haha. Yes, I do love my 996 Turbo. :-) |
| [10:12:00] | KaZeR: | that's the guide we followed last week. |
| [10:12:00] | KaZeR: | hehe you can, you can :) |
| [10:12:00] | Krazylegz: | It doesn't work? |
| [10:12:00] | Krazylegz: | I can sleep with it! |
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| [10:12:00] | Krazylegz: | I bought that at the gift shop in Stuttgart, and I did sleep with it that night. :-) |
| [10:13:00] | KaZeR: | a few one can tell they slept with their porsche :) |
| [10:13:00] | KaZeR: | Fosten, => #ati maybe? |
| [10:13:00] | Krazylegz: | I've never slept with my Audi. |
| [10:13:00] | Krazylegz: | I take it that this how-to doesn't work? |
| [10:13:00] | KaZeR: | you'll need a pretty huge bed :) |
| [10:14:00] | laga: | huh` porsche? |
| [10:14:00] | Krazylegz: | laga: http://www.hitracker.com/audi/pictures/porsche/ |
| [10:14:00] | KaZeR: | this howto gives a lot of useful infos, like what modules are needed. but result isn't sufficient in our case (maybe it works fine for others) |
| [10:14:00] | laga: | hehe, fluffy |
| [10:16:00] | Krazylegz: | Luckily, it's bigger than my lobster. |
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| [10:27:00] | Krazylegz: | Time for bed. |
| [10:27:00] | Krazylegz: | Keep me posted. ;-) |
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| [10:49:00] | ruiner: | my audio's not working and mythbackend is reporting "NVR: Error, unknown audio codec", what's wrong? |
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| [10:52:00] | KaZeR: | is there a way to grab a light backend status, without html formatting like we can have on port 6544 ? |
| [10:54:00] | rage-: | hrm |
| [10:54:00] | KaZeR: | ruiner, does audio works with mplayer? |
| [10:54:00] | ruiner: | yes, it just doesnt work for watching tv |
| [10:54:00] | rage-: | when I run mythfilldatabase --file 0 -1 myepg.xml, it doesn't read the channel id=xxxx out of the xml file into the chanid column of the program table — it assigns its own values... is this normal? |
| [10:55:00] | KaZeR: | for livetv, right? do recorded shows works fine? |
| [10:55:00] | ruiner: | no |
| [10:55:00] | ruiner: | er, i can go check again, i maybe im wrong |
| [10:55:00] | ruiner: | hang on a sec |
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| [10:58:00] | ruiner: | no, it doesnt work for live tv, or for recordings |
| [10:58:00] | ruiner: | but it does work for videod i already had on there |
| [10:58:00] | ruiner: | mpegs, etc |
| [10:59:00] | KaZeR: | does it works while playing what comes from /dev/video0? you have a pvr card, right? |
| [10:59:00] | ruiner: | its not a pvr, its a hauppauge wintv |
| [10:59:00] | KaZeR: | oh ok. no audio at all? |
| [11:00:00] | ruiner: | right |
| [11:00:00] | KaZeR: | bttv-audio? |
| [11:01:00] | ruiner: | is that a module? i have bttv, and tvaudio |
| [11:02:00] | ruiner: | oh, wait, maybe i explained this wrong |
| [11:02:00] | KaZeR: | and i'm not at my best, today :) |
| [11:02:00] | ruiner: | audio works if i unmute my line-in, and just listen to audio in realtime, but then its off sync from video |
| [11:02:00] | ruiner: | so i muted the line in and switched it to capture, like ti says in the myth docs |
| [11:02:00] | ruiner: | and also turned up the CAPTUR |
| [11:03:00] | ruiner: | and now i hear nothing |
| [11:03:00] | ruiner: | so- the card audio does work, i think im just doing something wrong on the myth end |
| [11:03:00] | ruiner: | does that make sense? |
| [11:03:00] | KaZeR: | it's normal that it's out of sync. |
| [11:04:00] | ruiner: | i know, but i want it to be in sync =) |
| [11:04:00] | KaZeR: | livetv functionnality is like 5 seconds behind broadcast, because of the buffer. |
| [11:04:00] | KaZeR: | so, if you watch live show on mythtv, and at the same time on the tv, it will always be some seconds behind |
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| [11:04:00] | ruiner: | right |
| [11:05:00] | KaZeR: | so you hear live sound, but watch myth live. |
| [11:05:00] | KaZeR: | try raising the sound volume in your livetv profile |
| [11:05:00] | KaZeR: | it should be like 60% by default, put it at 98 |
| [11:05:00] | rage-: | when you run mythfilldatabase --file, where does the "chanid" value that gets put into the program table come from? a different value is getting put in than is in my .xml file |
| [11:05:00] | ruiner: | i've tried |
| [11:06:00] | ruiner: | but in the mythbackend logs it says "NVR: Error, unknown audio codec" |
| [11:06:00] | KaZeR: | rage-, you're using epg right? |
| [11:06:00] | KaZeR: | ruiner, smth is wrong in you profile setting i guess |
| [11:06:00] | KaZeR: | or in your card setup |
| [11:07:00] | KaZeR: | have a look at the profile first |
| [11:07:00] | ruiner: | in mythsetup? |
| [11:07:00] | rage-: | using epg? I'm manually importing my program guide via an xml file |
| [11:07:00] | KaZeR: | ruiner, no, in frontend/settings |
| [11:08:00] | KaZeR: | rage-, i saw you talked earlier about epg, sorry :) |
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| [11:08:00] | KaZeR: | rage-, with my xmltv, it comes from ~/.tv |
| [11:08:00] | rage-: | my xml file has entries like <channel id="100"> etc.. but whats getting put into the program table is different — it's pulling a number from somewhere else and putting it in the chanid column for each entry |
| [11:08:00] | KaZeR: | or smth like that |
| [11:08:00] | Vampie_: | anybody using freebsd here ? |
| [11:09:00] | Vampie_: | i need to setup 4 card PVR 250 with on freebsd box |
| [11:09:00] | Vampie_: | anybody tried it before ? |
| [11:10:00] | KaZeR: | rage-, where does your xml file comes? |
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| [11:10:00] | ruiner: | KaZeR, ok, but i dont really know what im looking for =/ |
| [11:10:00] | rage-: | tv_grab_dvb |
| [11:11:00] | KaZeR: | rage, have you run tv_grab_dvb --configure? |
| [11:11:00] | KaZeR: | ruiner, find something called recording profiles (sorry i have no mythtv under hand) |
| [11:11:00] | rage-: | unrecognized option |
| [11:12:00] | KaZeR: | mmm |
| [11:12:00] | KaZeR: | tv_grab_dvb --help? |
| [11:12:00] | KaZeR: | there should be a switch that allow you to choose what channels to grab |
| [11:14:00] | rage-: | it's finding my channel config file |
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| [11:14:00] | ruiner: | KaZeR, ok, so im guessing i want to edit the "LiveTV" one... volume is already at 90%.. anything else i can check? |
| [11:14:00] | KaZeR: | where is that file rage- ? |
| [11:15:00] | rage-: | where I tell it it is :) |
| [11:15:00] | rage-: | tv_grab_dvb -c file.xml |
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| [11:15:00] | KaZeR: | ruiner, push it at 100. when i was using bttv, the problem was not no audio, but really poor audio level |
| [11:15:00] | rage-: | the problem comes when I try to mythfilldatabase --file 0 -1 file.xml |
| [11:15:00] | rage-: | tv_grab_dvb -c file.conf rather |
| [11:15:00] | KaZeR: | rage-, please paste me that file in pm |
| [11:15:00] | ruiner: | ok |
| [11:16:00] | rage-: | anyway, tv_grab_dvb populates my file.xml with the correct channel numbers and all |
| [11:16:00] | rage-: | with <channel id="10"> and such |
| [11:16:00] | KaZeR: | rage, do you have some basic sql knowledge? |
| [11:16:00] | rage-: | yep |
| [11:16:00] | KaZeR: | rage-, did you set your channels xmltv ids? |
| [11:17:00] | rage-: | yup |
| [11:17:00] | KaZeR: | can you check them? with a select from channels, and paste some samples in PM ? |
| [11:19:00] | ruiner: | no luck... i dont think the problem is anything with volume though, when i first click "live tv" it gives me a warning that says "Unable to create audio output" |
| [11:19:00] | KaZeR: | ruiner, using gentoo? |
| [11:19:00] | ruiner: | yes |
| [11:19:00] | KaZeR: | emerge -av mythtv, please paste here |
| [11:20:00] | ruiner: | omg |
| [11:20:00] | ruiner: | [ebuild R ] media-tv/mythtv-0.18.1-r2 +alsa (-altivec) -arts -debug +dvb -frontendonly -ieee1394 -jack -joystick -lcd -lirc +mmx +nvidia +opengl +oss* -unichrome +vorbis 0 kB |
| [11:20:00] | ruiner: | its that +oss* isnt it? |
| [11:20:00] | ruiner: | i just need to recompile? |
| [11:21:00] | KaZeR: | ruiner, got it :) |
| [11:21:00] | KaZeR: | mythtv audio needs OSS |
| [11:21:00] | ruiner: | ugh, i knew it as soon as i saw it |
| [11:21:00] | ruiner: | lol, well thanks |
| [11:22:00] | ruiner: | my audio was out of sync playing mpegs with mplayer earlier, i realized it was because mplayer needed oss and i had left it out |
| [11:22:00] | KaZeR: | ruiner, np :) |
| [11:22:00] | ruiner: | i totally forgot to recompile mythtv as well =P |
| [11:22:00] | KaZeR: | ruiner, you should also emerge -N world when changing global use flags :) |
| [11:23:00] | ruiner: | KaZeR, i know lol, i was just thinking "well i want mplayer to work now, i'll emerge world later" |
| [11:23:00] | ruiner: | then i totally forgot, of course |
| [11:23:00] | KaZeR: | :) |
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| [11:25:00] | ruiner: | mmm, ccache + distcc makes things so much easier =) |
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| [11:26:00] | KaZeR: | hell yeah |
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| [11:27:00] | ruiner: | works fine now |
| [11:27:00] | ruiner: | thanks for the help |
| [11:27:00] | KaZeR: | :) |
| [11:28:00] | KaZeR: | you recompiled myth in such a few times? wooh lots of HP there :) |
| [11:29:00] | ruiner: | Mon Oct 3 02:25:06 2005 >>> media-tv/mythtv-0.18.1-r2 |
| [11:29:00] | ruiner: | merge time: 2 minutes and 32 seconds. |
| [11:29:00] | ruiner: | =) |
| [11:30:00] | Hoxzer: | Is myth-TV combitable with Cinergy 1200 DVB-C TV-card? |
| [11:30:00] | KaZeR: | ruiner, UH |
| [11:30:00] | KaZeR: | ruiner, how many cpus? what kind? |
| [11:31:00] | Hoxzer: | aaargh how do I check is it supported |
| [11:31:00] | ruiner: | 2.2 p4 in the box, a2400+, a643200+, 1.6 pentium-m, 1.4 pentium-m on distcc |
| [11:32:00] | KaZeR: | nice :) |
| [11:32:00] | KaZeR: | Hoxzer, is there a v4l driver for your card? |
| [11:32:00] | Hoxzer: | Dont ask me |
| [11:32:00] | KaZeR: | lol. have you ever have it running under linux? |
| [11:32:00] | ruiner: | KaZeR, half are my roommates though... but we run gentoo on everything =) |
| [11:32:00] | Hoxzer: | I dont even have it yet |
| [11:33:00] | Hoxzer: | I buy it if it is combitable with mythtv |
| [11:33:00] | Hoxzer: | http://tven.terratec.net/modules.php?op=modlo . . . &sid=218 it is this one |
| [11:33:00] | KaZeR: | Hoxzer, i know almost nothing about dvb :) |
| [11:34:00] | Hoxzer: | :) me too |
| [11:34:00] | Hoxzer: | *eithert |
| [11:34:00] | Hoxzer: | *either |
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| [11:35:00] | KaZeR: | Hoxzer, i believe it's neither here ;) |
| [11:35:00] | KaZeR: | ruiner, this is damn nive |
| [11:35:00] | KaZeR: | s/nive/nice |
| [11:36:00] | ruiner: | whats that? |
| [11:36:00] | KaZeR: | your compile farm :) |
| [11:36:00] | KaZeR: | Hoxzer, http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/index.php?date=2005-09-06 |
| [11:37:00] | ruiner: | ah, yeah =) |
| [11:37:00] | KaZeR: | i didn't read everything, but somebody tried with the same card |
| [11:38:00] | Hoxzer: | Yeah |
| [11:38:00] | Hoxzer: | I better pm to simon |
| [11:39:00] | KaZeR: | don't pm without asking first :) |
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| [13:24:00] | jhoke: | morning |
| [13:24:00] | laga: | morning jhoke |
| [13:25:00] | jhoke: | has anyone installed/compiled the SVN version on SuSE 9.3 x64? I am getting all sorts of compile errors |
| [13:26:00] | jhoke: | looks like the makefiles are looking for everything to be in /usr/lib/qt3–3/lib but mine are in /usr/lib/qt3/lib and /usr/lib/qt3/lib64 |
| [13:27:00] | jhoke: | looks like I will have to try another distro as I do not know enough about suse to make this work |
| [13:27:00] | laga: | jhoke: export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3 && qmake mythtv.pro && make && foobar |
| [13:27:00] | laga: | jhoke: this could work. |
| [13:27:00] | jhoke: | laga, done |
| [13:27:00] | jhoke: | will try again... one sec |
| [13:27:00] | laga: | try a make clean |
| [13:27:00] | laga: | or make distclean |
| [13:28:00] | jhoke: | I am regrabbing svn...will be a few min |
| [13:30:00] | jhoke: | echo $QTDIR; echo $PATH |
| [13:30:00] | jhoke: | /usr/lib/qt3 |
| [13:30:00] | jhoke: | /home/jhoke/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/opt/gnom e/bin:/opt/kde3/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/jre/bin:/usr/lib/qt3 |
| [13:30:00] | jhoke: | that at least *looks* kosher |
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| [13:35:00] | jhoke: | woot... it seems to be working now ... nothing changed except 5 hrs of sleep :) |
| [13:36:00] | Skaface: | maybe you sleep typed |
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| [13:36:00] | jhoke: | ska... stranger shit has happened :) |
| [13:36:00] | Skaface: | hehe |
| [13:38:00] | jhoke: | it took me all night to hunt down a number of the prereqs for the configure... run ./configure ... let it puke find what it was missing go find the lib ... was a fun night :) |
| [13:39:00] | Skaface: | lol, wouldn't it have been easier to install whatever the install guide told you it needs? :P |
| [13:39:00] | Hoxzer: | does Mythtv run in Gnome? |
| [13:40:00] | jhoke: | ska, I did... but there were libs not mentions (libiec1394 in particular that does not ship with SuSE) that I had to dig up ;) |
| [13:40:00] | Skaface: | ohh ok |
| [13:40:00] | Skaface: | fun |
| [13:40:00] | Hoxzer^: | Does Mythtv run in Gnome? |
| [13:40:00] | jhoke: | Hoxzer, yes, but I perfer running in KDE |
| [13:41:00] | Hoxzer^: | never used KDE ;/ |
| [13:41:00] | jhoke: | same but different ;) |
| [13:42:00] | jhoke: | most of the howtos I have seen for myth are kde based |
| [13:42:00] | jhoke: | shit |
| [13:42:00] | Skaface: | xfce4 is my favorite |
| [13:42:00] | jhoke: | here's a lovely error: |
| [13:42:00] | jhoke: | In file included from jsmenu.cpp:39: |
| [13:42:00] | jhoke: | /usr/src/linux-2.6.11.4–21.9/include/linux/joystick.h:142:2: #error Unexpected BITS_PER_LONG |
| [13:43:00] | Skaface: | odd |
| [13:43:00] | jhoke: | quite |
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| [13:43:00] | Skaface: | do you need joystick support? |
| [13:43:00] | jhoke: | no |
| [13:44:00] | Skaface: | well, disable it ;) |
| [13:44:00] | jhoke: | here is the line before the error: |
| [13:44:00] | jhoke: | hmm |
| [13:44:00] | jhoke: | didnt see a joystick in the config |
| [13:44:00] | jhoke: | got it... brb |
| [13:46:00] | jhoke: | See, I am not a programmer, but this is why I like running svn versions of certain things... you learn more about the app |
| [13:47:00] | Skaface: | lol |
| [13:47:00] | jhoke: | i mean I am a decent hack when it comes to perl, php and to a lesser extent C but I aint to programmer (tm) |
| [13:49:00] | Skaface: | same here pretty much |
| [13:49:00] | jhoke: | now it cant find viaXvMC |
| [13:50:00] | Skaface: | i can modify peoples code, but cant really write stuff from scratch |
| [13:50:00] | jhoke: | and I know I have the devel package installed |
| [13:50:00] | jhoke: | skaface: same with me :) |
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| [13:51:00] | jhoke: | "cannot find -lviaXvMC" is -lviaXvMC the same as libviaXvMC.so* |
| [13:53:00] | Skaface: | i think a .so is a binary |
| [13:54:00] | jhoke: | I also have a .a |
| [13:54:00] | jhoke: | in both /usr/X11R6/lib and /usr/X11R6/lib64 |
| [13:55:00] | Skaface: | do you need the X development stuff installed? |
| [13:55:00] | jhoke: | it is :( |
| [13:55:00] | Skaface: | i mean to say do you HAVE the X ... ok |
| [13:55:00] | Skaface: | hmm |
| [13:56:00] | jhoke: | xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2–30 |
| [13:56:00] | jhoke: | xorg-x11–6.8.2–30 |
| [13:57:00] | Skaface: | libxvmc devel ? |
| [13:57:00] | jhoke: | checking now ;) |
| [13:58:00] | jhoke: | hmm...brb ... something strange |
| [13:58:00] | Skaface: | ufo? |
| [14:01:00] | jhoke: | unidentified fucking obtuseness |
| [14:02:00] | jhoke: | there does not appear to be a libxvmc-dev package...the linxvmc files are from xorg-X11-libs package |
| [14:03:00] | jhoke: | but xvmc is only needed on a Front End I would assume, right? |
| [14:03:00] | jhoke: | is xvmc an Nvidia thing? |
| [14:06:00] | Skaface: | not sure |
| [14:06:00] | Skaface: | disable xvmc with the .config ? |
| [14:06:00] | Skaface: | sorry ./configure even :P |
| [14:07:00] | jhoke: | I could ... but I'd like to figure out why it is screwey ;) |
| [14:07:00] | Skaface: | oh ok |
| [14:07:00] | Skaface: | i never had a problem compiling it, i just installed what was necesarry according to the howto, and compiled it, and it worked |
| [14:07:00] | Skaface: | that was with debian |
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| [14:07:00] | jhoke: | I think I may roll debian on this box today :) |
| [14:08:00] | Skaface: | haha |
| [14:08:00] | Skaface: | stick with it, youll work it out |
| [14:08:00] | jhoke: | I have Ubuntu here... could roll that |
| [14:08:00] | Skaface: | yuck |
| [14:09:00] | Skaface: | but yes, you could :P |
| [14:09:00] | jhoke: | http://pastebin.com/381496 |
| [14:09:00] | jhoke: | what really is difference btwn current deb and ubuntu? |
| [14:10:00] | jhoke: | (its been about 2 years since I installed debian propper) |
| [14:11:00] | Skaface: | ubuntu seems like it wants to be a full desktop operating system type setup |
| [14:11:00] | jhoke: | true... but other than that ...seems similar enough |
| [14:11:00] | Skaface: | and debian is just easier to customise when installing |
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| [14:11:00] | jhoke: | mornin' rjune |
| [14:11:00] | Skaface: | yeah seems to be very much the same really |
| [14:12:00] | Skaface: | you can "downgrade" debian to ubuntu by just changing the apt sources :P |
| [14:12:00] | jhoke: | if I dont get this issue worked out in a few I will reinstall wiht ubuntu |
| [14:12:00] | Skaface: | ok then |
| [14:12:00] | jhoke: | lol |
| [14:12:00] | jhoke: | or maybe go get a network boot disk for deb... feh |
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| [14:13:00] | Skaface: | personally i'd do that :) |
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| [14:13:00] | jhoke: | that last error is just pissing me off tho |
| [14:14:00] | Skaface: | did you compile any of the dependencies manually? |
| [14:15:00] | Skaface: | or were they all packages |
| [14:15:00] | jhoke: | all packages except XMLTV and LAME |
| [14:15:00] | Skaface: | ok |
| [14:16:00] | jhoke: | oh... and nvidia driver I used the script from nvidia |
| [14:16:00] | Skaface: | whats in your /etc/ld.so.conf ? |
| [14:16:00] | Skaface: | is /usr/X11R6/lib in there? |
| [14:17:00] | jhoke: | http://pastebin.com/381499 |
| [14:17:00] | jhoke: | yep and /usr/X11R6/lib64 |
| [14:17:00] | Skaface: | ok then |
| [14:18:00] | jhoke: | like I said.. fucking strange |
| [14:18:00] | Skaface: | what dist are you using again? |
| [14:18:00] | jhoke: | SuSE 9.3 x64 |
| [14:19:00] | Beirdo: | jhoke, why are you compiling with viaXVMC when you are using nvidia? |
| [14:19:00] | jhoke: | Beirdo... SHIT! |
| [14:20:00] | jhoke: | You are right |
| [14:20:00] | Skaface: | ahaha |
| [14:20:00] | jhoke: | LOL |
| [14:20:00] | Beirdo: | that could be an issue :) |
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| [14:20:00] | ** jhoke hands bierdo a glass of hennesey and a cigar ** | |
| [14:21:00] | Beirdo: | thanks, but I don't smoke cigars anymore... the woman don't like em |
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| [14:21:00] | Beirdo: | the woman who in a few weeks will (hopefully) be the fiancee |
| [14:21:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [14:21:00] | jhoke: | ... ok just the liquor then ? |
| [14:22:00] | Beirdo: | sure :) |
| [14:22:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [14:22:00] | Skaface: | ill take the cigar |
| [14:22:00] | jhoke: | Beirdo: so my configure line shoud not --enable-xvmc then? |
| [14:22:00] | Beirdo: | I wish I had some spiced rum to put in my coffee today |
| [14:22:00] | jhoke: | Ska... n/p |
| [14:22:00] | Beirdo: | one sec |
| [14:22:00] | jhoke: | k |
| [14:23:00] | Skaface: | hmm that bed is looking pretty good right now |
| [14:23:00] | Beirdo: | --disable-xvmc-vld |
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| [14:23:00] | Beirdo: | I think is what you were missing |
| [14:24:00] | jhoke: | ok... I will try that... didint see that option in the ./configure --help |
| [14:24:00] | Beirdo: | or --disable-xvmc-pro |
| [14:24:00] | jhoke: | in svn |
| [14:24:00] | Beirdo: | it's commented out, but I'm not sure if it's still used |
| [14:24:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, it's still parsed |
| [14:24:00] | Beirdo: | but commented out of help, how odd |
| [14:24:00] | jhoke: | lol... bug report? |
| [14:25:00] | Beirdo: | Hmm |
| [14:25:00] | jhoke: | so, I am going to run: ./configure --enable-xvmc --enable-opengl-vsync --enable-directfb --enable-dvb --dvb-path=/usr/src/linux-2.6.11.4–21.9/include/ --disable-joystick-menu --disable-xvmc-pro --disable-xvmc-vld |
| [14:25:00] | Beirdo: | worth a try |
| [14:26:00] | jhoke: | lets see if that flies |
| [14:26:00] | jhoke: | have to go check my work email on my laptop in the other room ... brb |
| [14:27:00] | jhoke: | Beirdo, no joy in mudville |
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| [14:27:00] | Beirdo: | is the libviaXvMC installed somewhere? |
| [14:27:00] | jhoke: | http://pastebin.com/381506 |
| [14:28:00] | Beirdo: | I don't use xvmc at all, so I'm not sure of the precise fix |
| [14:28:00] | jhoke: | well, I may have to just disable it |
| [14:28:00] | Beirdo: | sounds like configure found that lib, but it's not in the lib path somehow |
| [14:29:00] | jhoke: | its in the ld.so.conf |
| [14:29:00] | Beirdo: | and you ldconfig? |
| [14:30:00] | jhoke: | http://pastebin.com/381507 |
| [14:30:00] | jhoke: | yep |
| [14:30:00] | jhoke: | that pastebin is the result of finding the files |
| [14:30:00] | jhoke: | SuSe is SoFuN |
| [14:31:00] | Beirdo: | you don't need those libs unless you have a VIA epia |
| [14:31:00] | Beirdo: | remove em |
| [14:31:00] | jhoke: | ok |
| [14:31:00] | Beirdo: | you need libXvNVIDIA if you have the nvidia cards |
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| [14:32:00] | jhoke: | Beirdo: the libviax.. were put in by xorg-X11-devel IIRC |
| [14:32:00] | Beirdo: | how lovely |
| [14:32:00] | Beirdo: | well rename them or something :) |
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| [14:33:00] | jhoke: | heh...or say fuck it and roll with your Unbuntoblablahbla |
| [14:33:00] | jhoke: | or is it Ummagumma — Pink Floyd |
| [14:34:00] | jhoke: | the NVIDIA libs are all in /usr/X11R6/lib64 the vias are in /usr/X11R6/lib |
| [14:34:00] | jhoke: | lol |
| [14:35:00] | jhoke: | so I *think* I should be able to rename all the via files in lib and make shoudl find the ones in lib64 right? |
| [14:36:00] | Skaface: | in order to change inputs in myth, do they have to have a channel listing attached to them? |
| [14:36:00] | Skaface: | i want to just monitor the composit input |
| [14:40:00] | jhoke: | I think this will work...I moved allthe via stuff -> /tmp/ and reran configure... which found the NVIDIA xvmc libs |
| [14:40:00] | jhoke: | :) |
| [14:40:00] | jhoke: | gonna check work stuff while compiling ...brb |
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| [14:45:00] | Skaface: | probably should run configure again first |
| [14:45:00] | jhoke: | yep |
| [14:45:00] | jhoke: | and a make clean |
| [14:45:00] | jhoke: | :) |
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| [15:05:00] | jhoke: | bah! |
| [15:05:00] | jhoke: | I am gonna go load up ubuntu |
| [15:06:00] | jhoke: | now I am getting firewire issues: /usr/lib64//libiec61883.so: undefined reference to `raw1394_bandwidth_modify' |
| [15:06:00] | jhoke: | /usr/lib64//libiec61883.so: undefined reference to `raw1394_channel_modify' |
| [15:06:00] | jhoke: | bbiab |
| [15:10:00] | simon_c: | jhoke: Have you added packman as a yast repository ? |
| [15:10:00] | simon_c: | IIRC, I needed an updated lib from there. One sec. |
| [15:10:00] | jhoke: | simon, no |
| [15:10:00] | jhoke: | googling now |
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| [15:11:00] | simon_c: | I've got libiec61883–1.0.0–1.pm.1 and libiec61883-devel-1.0.0–1.pm.1 |
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| [15:11:00] | simon_c: | probably from packman. |
| [15:11:00] | simon_c: | jhoke SuSEhelp> yast source: http://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/9.1 (or 9.2, 9.3, 10.0) |
| [15:12:00] | jhoke: | simon TYU |
| [15:12:00] | jhoke: | brb |
| [15:12:00] | simon_c: | a vey very rough howto on myth on suse. http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/SuseHowto |
| [15:12:00] | simon_c: | I need to rework it significantly. |
| [15:13:00] | jhoke: | wow... redcarpet lives? :) |
| [15:13:00] | simon_c: | jhoke: One of the reasons I need to rewrite it. |
| [15:14:00] | jhoke: | ok... so just ad that repo to yast then, I assume... or i can use apt |
| [15:14:00] | simon_c: | I'm not sure aobut apt. I don't use it. But yes, you can add packman to yast, and use yast to instlal the dependancies. |
| [15:15:00] | jhoke: | nice |
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| [15:30:00] | KaZeR: | i wrote a small perl script to check my backend status and summarize in a webpage. i'd like some beta testers, any one interested? |
| [15:30:00] | KaZeR: | (basically, just download the script and run it at least once :) |
| [15:33:00] | laga: | KaZeR: sounds spiffy. |
| [15:33:00] | laga: | let me try it ;) |
| [15:33:00] | KaZeR: | fine :) |
| [15:33:00] | KaZeR: | just download, read if you want and run http://wwW.kazer.org/mythtv/mythcheck |
| [15:34:00] | KaZeR: | monitored backends are shown in http://www.kazer.org/mythtv/ |
| [15:34:00] | jhoke: | kazer sound sweet... gonna check it ;) |
| [15:36:00] | KaZeR: | nice :) |
| [15:36:00] | KaZeR: | comments/idea/criticism welcome. |
| [15:36:00] | KaZeR: | i did that because i'm preparing a mythtv box for a friend who doesn't know anything about computers. so i'll have to check is backend status from time to time. |
| [15:36:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [15:37:00] | jhoke: | :) |
| [15:38:00] | KaZeR: | hehe found my first bug :) |
| [15:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | KaZeR: Nifty |
| [15:39:00] | KaZeR: | thanks :) |
| [15:39:00] | otwin: | KaZeR: mine is there – had to change hostname and local ip of course |
| [15:39:00] | KaZeR: | mmm well i have to figure out how to find hostname from perl |
| [15:39:00] | jhoke: | quite nice! where is the index.php file that is needed to run this local? |
| [15:39:00] | KaZeR: | thanks guys :) |
| [15:40:00] | KaZeR: | jhoke, i'll propose it to download in a few minutes. i'm fixing this hostname thing first |
| [15:40:00] | KaZeR: | who has got hal.ifficek.org ? |
| [15:40:00] | jhoke: | n/p ... but this looks sweet! |
| [15:40:00] | KaZeR: | thanks :) |
| [15:40:00] | otwin: | hal.ifficek.org is me |
| [15:40:00] | KaZeR: | i'm glad of so many positive response :) |
| [15:40:00] | KaZeR: | otwin, how many tuners do you have? |
| [15:40:00] | laga: | styx is me. |
| [15:41:00] | jhoke: | hmm... does anyone know of any scripts taht will output your current scheduled recordigns > rss |
| [15:41:00] | otwin: | 2 in the box, but only 1 setup for now. |
| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | KaZeR: Going to pull a list of backends and probe then all? Or is it a hardcoded list ? |
| [15:42:00] | KaZeR: | laga, smth wrong with your "program guide left days" detection it seems |
| [15:42:00] | KaZeR: | GreyFoxx, i plan to read it from database |
| [15:42:00] | KaZeR: | otwin, ok. just because it's named #9 |
| [15:42:00] | jhoke: | Some of this is in mythweb now tho' no? (w/out the graphics that is) |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | jhoke: He is parsing the same output that mythweb just puts up |
| [15:43:00] | laga: | KaZeR: probably because my mythweb says "Last mythfilldatabase run started on 2005-10–03 07:10 and ended on 2005-10–03 07:10. FAILED: xmltv returned error code 6400. |
| [15:43:00] | laga: | There's guide data until 2005-10–10 09:00 (7 days)." |
| [15:44:00] | KaZeR: | laga, since there is data up to 7 days, it should work. info is taken from this line :) |
| [15:44:00] | jhoke: | GreyFoxx: thats what I thought... I want to play with the status.php to make it also output RSS of everything there, primarily the "upcoming recordings" section |
| [15:45:00] | laga: | KaZeR: well, that's odd then |
| [15:46:00] | KaZeR: | laga, for sure. |
| [15:46:00] | KaZeR: | script should now autodetect the correct hostname |
| [15:47:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [15:47:00] | KaZeR: | (but not backend yet) |
| [15:47:00] | KaZeR: | laga, your hard disk space is erroneus too. would you mind re-dl and rerun? |
| [15:48:00] | laga: | KaZeR: not at all, give me a minue. |
| [15:48:00] | laga: | minute* |
| [15:48:00] | KaZeR: | np |
| [15:48:00] | jhoke: | nice |
| [15:49:00] | KaZeR: | ok still a ugly thing with multiples encoders.. fixing.. |
| [15:49:00] | jhoke: | the only thing i would add is allowing the master BE to be set @ comman line with a switch so it does not need to be edited for each install |
| [15:50:00] | KaZeR: | yup :) |
| [15:50:00] | jhoke: | but I am diggin on this as I may be setting up a large number of BEs for a friend's company ... this would allow for a good quick overview of all their statuses |
| [15:51:00] | laga: | just release the php code for the website as well ;) |
| [15:51:00] | KaZeR: | whole website? mmmm well, i'll think of it :) |
| [15:52:00] | KaZeR: | jhoke, exactly why i started this thing :) |
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| [15:56:00] | Ryushin: | Is there a way to change the naming convention of files that are stored in the recordings directory? |
| [15:56:00] | laga: | KaZeR: re-ran mythcheck |
| [15:56:00] | KaZeR: | thanks laga. |
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| [15:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | Depends on what you are running. You can rename them undering SVN, but if you are using a release version then no |
| [15:57:00] | KaZeR: | jhoke, now if you don't specify an ip, it takes localhost as default (and warns you) otherwise use ./mythcheck <ip or hostname> |
| [15:57:00] | jhoke: | kazer: kewl ... regrabbing now |
| [15:57:00] | KaZeR: | fine :) |
| [15:58:00] | Ryushin: | Then I guess I will have to switch to svn then. Now from what I understand, it's possible to do updates using svn. How does that work? |
| [15:58:00] | KaZeR: | laga, weird, your hearbeat is rather old. could you paste me the output in PM ? |
| [15:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Rys: how does what work? the changing of the file name ? |
| [15:58:00] | laga: | KaZeR: of course |
| [15:59:00] | Ryushin: | Performing updates/upgrades using svn. |
| [15:59:00] | jhoke: | Nice! and now it shows both encoders :) |
| [16:00:00] | KaZeR: | jhoke, i'll polish this encoder thing |
| [16:00:00] | laga: | KaZeR: PM wont work because im not registered, i think. |
| [16:00:00] | laga: | KaZeR: -> pastebin |
| [16:00:00] | jhoke: | Ryushin: svn update, configure, qmake mythtv.pro; make; etc AFAIK |
| [16:00:00] | laga: | KaZeR: http://pastebin.ca/24512 |
| [16:01:00] | KaZeR: | laga, yep got it. ip looks wrong. |
| [16:01:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i think we now have a 'basename' column in the 'recorded' table. |
| [16:01:00] | KaZeR: | if your backend is local, just regrab latest and rerun |
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| [16:01:00] | laga: | KaZeR: k |
| [16:01:00] | KaZeR: | i'll add a check for that. otherwise, you can run using mythcheck <ip> |
| [16:01:00] | jhoke: | KaZer: this is quite nice ... and f'ing useful! good combo :) |
| [16:01:00] | Ryushin: | So essentially, it just makes sure that the source is updated. It's still up to me to ./configure (with all my options), make and make install again. |
| [16:02:00] | KaZeR: | jhoke, i'm glad you like it :) |
| [16:02:00] | KaZeR: | laga, works :) |
| [16:02:00] | laga: | KaZeR: awesome ;) |
| [16:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: I'm aware of that :) |
| [16:02:00] | KaZeR: | thanks guys :) |
| [16:03:00] | jhoke: | Kazer: any chance of getting the PHP code as well |
| [16:03:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: good *cough* |
| [16:03:00] | KaZeR: | jhoke, sure. |
| [16:03:00] | KaZeR: | you'll need a mysql table as well. |
| [16:03:00] | jhoke: | ok... easy nuff ;) |
| [16:03:00] | KaZeR: | i'm packing it all |
| [16:03:00] | jhoke: | kewl... |
| [16:04:00] | jhoke: | shit.. boss on phone.. and IM... doesnt sound good |
| [16:04:00] | jhoke: | lol |
| [16:04:00] | jhoke: | brb |
| [16:04:00] | KaZeR: | hehe |
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| [16:08:00] | sphing: | I'm a little confused... whats the difference between nuvexport and mythtranscode |
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| [16:10:00] | KaZeR: | nuvexport can export to much more formats. |
| [16:12:00] | KaZeR: | packing done. link in the backend status page. comments,code welcome :) |
| [16:13:00] | sphing: | i'm sure this has been exhausted here.. but if I want to go to xvid i'd use nuvexport |
| [16:14:00] | KaZeR: | yep nuvexport is a really powerfull toy |
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| [16:15:00] | beavis: | how can i select all audio tracks in mythdvd? |
| [16:16:00] | sphing: | hey beavis in your mythdvd... do you have the setup for it in your menu's? |
| [16:17:00] | beavis: | sure, but i can only select one audio track to transcode |
| [16:18:00] | sphing: | mythdvd doesnt have the setup menus |
| [16:18:00] | sphing: | at least on mine |
| [16:18:00] | Hoxzer^: | Is it possibel to pause live TV show with myth tv? |
| [16:18:00] | Hoxzer^: | *possible |
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| [16:18:00] | sphing: | Hoxzer^: of course |
| [16:18:00] | Hoxzer^: | Yeah! |
| [16:18:00] | Hoxzer^: | and then wach it? |
| [16:18:00] | sphing: | ... of courswe |
| [16:18:00] | Hoxzer^: | *watch |
| [16:18:00] | Hoxzer^: | Yeah :D |
| [16:19:00] | beavis: | P |
| [16:19:00] | beavis: | press P |
| [16:19:00] | KaZeR: | Hoxzer, even go back in livetv to review smth :) |
| [16:19:00] | Hoxzer^: | Building up my own HTPC will be fun ^^ |
| [16:19:00] | KaZeR: | with arrow keys |
| [16:19:00] | sphing: | Hoxzer: then you'll enjoy myth |
| [16:19:00] | KaZeR: | or slow down |
| [16:19:00] | Hoxzer^: | KaZer: even if I didn't set it to record it? |
| [16:20:00] | KaZeR: | Hoxzer, even :) |
| [16:20:00] | KaZeR: | but you won't be able to go back more than what you've already saw |
| [16:20:00] | KaZeR: | ie, if you're watching since 10m, you can go back up to 10 min, but not more |
| [16:20:00] | Hoxzer^: | Ok |
| [16:21:00] | Hoxzer^: | Can I set mythtv to record via internet? |
| [16:22:00] | sphing: | yes.. |
| [16:22:00] | Hoxzer^: | :) |
| [16:22:00] | sphing: | Hoxzer: look at mythtv.org for a full list of featuers |
| [16:22:00] | sphing: | *features |
| [16:22:00] | Hoxzer^: | Just checking them |
| [16:24:00] | BOPP: | Using a PVR350 + frontend on the framebuffer, when watching live-tv or recorded show I get a black field at the bottom of my screen. The box dissapears for 1 min or so when myth is displaying something else on my screen. Anyone know how to get rid of this bug on a more permanent base? |
| [16:24:00] | BOPP: | something else = osd-info like volume etc |
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| [16:26:00] | Hoxzer^: | is GF4 MX4000 good enought for HTPC? |
| [16:28:00] | BOPP: | you will not get any hw acc. from that card, so it depends on your cpu, amount of ram ++ |
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| [16:29:00] | T-Squared: | anyone every have problems with a green bar across the top of the screen on a pvr350/pvr250 system? |
| [16:29:00] | sphing: | T-Squared: i'm using a pvr250 on the backend...no green bar |
| [16:30:00] | T-Squared: | I think it may be my 350 card, trying different firmware with latest svn version now |
| [16:30:00] | T-Squared: | I see it when recording and when watching live tv |
| [16:30:00] | Hoxzer^: | BOPP: Aopen MX4000-V64,AGP8x 64MB DDR VGA TV-Out |
| [16:31:00] | Hoxzer^: | So I think that is good enought for HTPC use |
| [16:31:00] | T-Squared: | grr still there and major jitter right to left even on live tv |
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| [16:33:00] | sphing: | Hoxzer: frontend or both? |
| [16:35:00] | BOPP: | Hoxzer: your graphic-card will not be your bottleneck anyway, as it is good enough to display moving frames at 25/30 fps. Your problem can be if your cpu is too slow to handle the movie-files |
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| [16:35:00] | sphing: | i'm running the front end on a celeron 733 with 64 ram |
| [16:35:00] | sphing: | aka.. an xbox |
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| [16:36:00] | Hoxzer: | BOPP: I don't think so 2.4Ghz Pentium 4 is too slow :D |
| [16:37:00] | BOPP: | Hoxzer: I missed the info about your cpu, that should be enough :-D |
| [16:38:00] | BOPP: | Hoxzer^: what kind of tvcard are you planning to use? |
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| [16:47:00] | Hoxzer^: | BOPP: Cinergy 1200 DVB-C |
| [16:47:00] | Hoxzer^: | and for analog Pinnacle Studio PCTV Rave |
| [16:47:00] | T-Squared: | hmm old bug rearing it's head with my green bar problem? |
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| [16:51:00] | jhoke: | simon_c: if you are still around, ty for your help... everything "almost" works, so I am going to try to reinstall again (I am willingto bet I screwedup some SuSE install stuff... redoing it for giggles) |
| [16:52:00] | Hoxzer^: | Yeah, btw I really dont have any idea does Cinergy 1200 DVB-C work with Mythtv ;/ |
| [16:52:00] | Hoxzer^: | Google finds nonthing |
| [16:53:00] | simon_c: | jhoke: :-) |
| [16:53:00] | simon_c: | that's why I like the RPMs. :-) |
| [16:53:00] | simon_c: | did you have many problems with lirc ? |
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| [16:53:00] | simon_c: | that was compleatly doing my head in !! |
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| [16:58:00] | jhoke: | i have not set up lirc on this box... the suse box I am working on will be *primarily* a slave BE, so I will have the FE on it just to check things now and then, but wont be using it for playback... no LIRC = one less problem :) |
| [16:59:00] | jhoke: | gonna go reboot from the install disk ... laydown suse again and do it all from RPMs this time... (ie: req's) you said you had SuSE 9.3 rpms as well? |
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| [17:05:00] | riddlebox: | hello, has anyone ever had a problem where mythtv doesnt change the channels? |
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| [17:06:00] | simon_c: | jhoke: GL. |
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| [17:31:00] | Hoxzer^: | http://koti.mbnet.fi/hoxzer/s.html do you guys see anything that is not combitable with MythTv and linux |
| [17:32:00] | Ryushin: | riddlebox: yes. |
| [17:33:00] | Krazylegz: | Hoxzer^: Yes, that power supply isn't going to work. :-P Just kidding. |
| [17:33:00] | Ryushin: | riddlebox: It was after doing a lm_sensors scan. I had to halt the box, and leave it off for 30 seconds before turning it back on. |
| [17:33:00] | KaZeR: | riddlebox, me too, was uncorrect freqid. have a look at channel configurator in mythsetup |
| [17:34:00] | Hoxzer: | Yeah |
| [17:35:00] | Hoxzer: | It would be crappy to see that for exsample TV-card isn't working |
| [17:35:00] | Hoxzer: | when you have bought hardware |
| [17:35:00] | KaZeR: | Hoxzer, did you catch simon? |
| [17:35:00] | KaZeR: | he has the same one |
| [17:35:00] | KaZeR: | ok, time to go, g'night pals! |
| [17:36:00] | KaZeR: | (and check http://www.kazer.org/index.php?page=mythtv , and throw your comments in pm or to kazer@borntofrag.net thanks! :D ) |
| [17:36:00] | Hoxzer: | Kazer: :( nope |
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| [17:44:00] | lhb: | hello |
| [17:45:00] | lhb: | what does this mean during startup: mythbackend error creatinf /.qt |
| [17:45:00] | lhb: | .qt is in mythtv home directory |
| [17:45:00] | lhb: | and the permissions are correct |
| [17:46:00] | Hoxzer^: | so is Mx4000 64MB good enought for media use? |
| [17:46:00] | Krazylegz: | lhb: Mythbackend does not run as the mythtv user. |
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| [17:47:00] | lhb: | Krazylegz: guess root then :) |
| [17:50:00] | sphing: | Hoxzer: how are you still asking the same question.... i played 2 wiffleball games and you're still asking |
| [17:50:00] | Hoxzer: | Sphing: asking will teach asker |
| [17:50:00] | Hoxzer: | Haven't got answer :D |
| [17:50:00] | sphing: | ... but we've already answered... it will handle myth fine |
| [17:51:00] | Hoxzer: | :O |
| [17:51:00] | Hoxzer: | It is good to ensure things you see? |
| [17:51:00] | Hoxzer: | well I order it |
| [17:51:00] | sphing: | i run my backend on a p3–500 with 512 sdram that can handle recording a channel and serving 3 frontend simultaneously |
| [17:52:00] | lhb: | how to change the theme back to default from the commandline? |
| [17:53:00] | Hoxzer: | :D |
| [17:53:00] | Hoxzer: | lol It will take a week to them to get the card |
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| [18:13:00] | Krazylegz: | lhb: Still looking? |
| [18:14:00] | ** NightBird dances ** | |
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| [18:32:00] | lhb: | Krazylegz: deleted the themecache folder inside .mythtv but it didnt help |
| [18:33:00] | Krazylegz: | No, it's in the database. |
| [18:33:00] | lhb: | ok |
| [18:33:00] | Krazylegz: | mythconverg.settings.value = Theme is the row. |
| [18:34:00] | lhb: | ok |
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| [18:45:00] | Hoxzer: | :E |
| [18:45:00] | NightBird: | feeling fangy? |
| [18:45:00] | Krazylegz: | Mustache? |
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| [18:53:00] | travolta: | maybe he tought he was in vim or something |
| [18:55:00] | Krazylegz: | E492: Not an editor command: E |
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| [19:13:00] | thechris: | i can't wait until the new version so i won't have to learn mysql to fix my database. |
| [19:13:00] | laga: | why do you think that mythtv 0.19 would fix your database for you? |
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| [19:13:00] | thechris: | i've heard its a feature they've added |
| [19:14:00] | thechris: | actually checking to see if the files exist |
| [19:14:00] | laga: | before deleting? |
| [19:14:00] | thechris: | i would hope it wouldn't list any files it didn't have |
| [19:14:00] | Chutt: | nope. |
| [19:15:00] | laga: | i think it doesn't check if the file exists, but it should be possible to delete non-existing recordings |
| [19:15:00] | thechris: | i know, it lists the recordings even though you can't delete them... |
| [19:15:00] | laga: | well, actually it is, i've tried it. |
| [19:15:00] | Chutt: | why don't you just use phpmyadmin or something? |
| [19:16:00] | thechris: | will that fix the database? |
| [19:16:00] | Krazylegz: | That will let you fix the database without learning SQL. |
| [19:16:00] | Krazylegz: | It will also let you fix the database without pissing off Chutt. :-P |
| [19:16:00] | thechris: | hmm. |
| [19:16:00] | thechris: | i may have to |
| [19:16:00] | thechris: | can't delete old recordings any other way |
| [19:17:00] | laga: | phpmyadmin is easy. just look for the 'recorded' table |
| [19:17:00] | Krazylegz: | http://www.phpmyadmin.net/ |
| [19:17:00] | Krazylegz: | They update that too often. Wankers. |
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| [19:19:00] | sandos: | uh |
| [19:19:00] | sandos: | that page _really_ looks like crap in my ff beta =) |
| [19:19:00] | sandos: | oh, much better after a refresah |
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| [19:21:00] | kormoc: | sandos, ooh? which beta do you have? |
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| [19:31:00] | rjune: | xris: you around? |
| [19:32:00] | xris: | no |
| [19:32:00] | xris: | ;) |
| [19:33:00] | watje: | is there an easy way to toggle between full screen and windowed view? |
| [19:33:00] | xris: | watje: don't think so |
| [19:33:00] | watje: | :( |
| [19:33:00] | watje: | hmm, is there a way to resize the frontend when it's windowed? |
| [19:34:00] | watje: | I know you can do it in the settings |
| [19:34:00] | watje: | but that's too much work |
| [19:34:00] | travolta: | you can do it from command line options too but you still have to quit it |
| [19:36:00] | watje: | hmm, can you tell me the options? |
| [19:36:00] | watje: | because I can't find them in mythfrontend --help |
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| [19:37:00] | travolta: | --geometry WxH+X+Y Override window size and position |
| [19:37:00] | travolta: | get some glasses :) |
| [19:38:00] | watje: | ok thank you |
| [19:38:00] | watje: | it isn't here |
| [19:38:00] | watje: | only -l and -v |
| [19:38:00] | travolta: | -l and -v? |
| [19:39:00] | watje: | in the --help |
| [19:39:00] | travolta: | mythfrontend --version |
| [19:39:00] | travolta: | 0.18.1.20050510–1 |
| [19:39:00] | travolta: | what version y0ou runnig? |
| [19:39:00] | watje: | Invalid argument: --geometry |
| [19:39:00] | watje: | hmm |
| [19:39:00] | watje: | 0.17 |
| [19:39:00] | travolta: | probably thats why |
| [19:40:00] | watje: | hm ok |
| [19:40:00] | travolta: | time for some fun compiling :) |
| [19:40:00] | watje: | this one was in ubuntu's apt repository |
| [19:41:00] | travolta: | repository's fault i guess |
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| [19:47:00] | poonj: | hey guys....I'm using the debian packages to install mythtv, however when I installed mythdvd, it doesn't seem to provide dvd ripping capabilities, just playing dvds. am I missing something or a package to be able to rip dvds? |
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| [19:54:00] | xris: | poonj: decss, and that it's not legal to distribute? |
| [19:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | You need permission to read DVD's on your PC :) |
| [19:56:00] | travolta: | probably need permission from MPAA too |
| [19:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Not to mention a DVD-ROM, apparently. Go figure. |
| [19:56:00] | Icks: | i think fox is saying you need deecss to play dvd's also |
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| [20:05:00] | butabi: | |
| [20:05:00] | butabi: | (created by mythtv *g*) |
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| [20:07:00] | jhoke: | res |
| [20:09:00] | sandos: | does anyone know if the pci-express matrox G550 really has tv-out? found one site claiming it didnt have that... |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | go to Matrox's site and find out maybe |
| [20:10:00] | sandos: | already did, didnt find the info.. I just found the info now though =) |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | well, where'd you think WE'd find the info? :) |
| [20:11:00] | sandos: | maybe somebody have the card was my thinking |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | could be, but doubtful |
| [20:11:00] | sandos: | yes, yes, likelihood is low :9 |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | most myth users are using nvidia |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | just a few of us non-nvidia oddballs out here |
| [20:11:00] | sandos: | heh |
| [20:12:00] | sandos: | why nvidia? |
| [20:12:00] | ** Beirdo still is using ATI, and loves it. No HDTV yet though ** | |
| [20:12:00] | sandos: | oh, well theyre tv-out is decent I guess |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | because they have decent Linux drivers |
| [20:12:00] | sandos: | on newer cards |
| [20:12:00] | sandos: | aah, true |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | provided by nvidia themselves, good support |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | Matrox does make good stuff though |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | as does ATI |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | the drivers may or may not be current, etc |
| [20:14:00] | sandos: | if only we didnt need to use a CRT TV, due to cheapness, all this thinking about tv-out quality would be gone =) |
| [20:15:00] | xris: | ati stuff is annoying. |
| [20:15:00] | xris: | and no linux drivers for my card (7500) |
| [20:17:00] | sandos: | how does gfx/mobos handle multiple gfx-cards nowadays? |
| [20:17:00] | sandos: | I assume it works pretty well? |
| [20:18:00] | ** xris points at kormoc and his triple-head layout ** | |
| [20:18:00] | sandos: | thinking multiple frontends, single PC |
| [20:18:00] | sandos: | ah =) |
| [20:18:00] | xris: | sandos: myth would freak out with that, I think. |
| [20:18:00] | sandos: | is it possible even to run one frontend per port on a dual-port card? |
| [20:18:00] | sandos: | oh.. :( |
| [20:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: I doubt it |
| [20:18:00] | kormoc: | actually myth doesn't mind as long as you can keep inputs stright |
| [20:19:00] | xris: | yeah, that's more what I meant |
| [20:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've done similar with no apparent problem. At least nothing I saw. |
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| [20:38:00] | watje: | I just compiled MythTV but now I get |
| [20:38:00] | watje: | mythfrontend: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| [20:38:00] | laga: | watje: is libmythtv in /usr/local/lib ? |
| [20:38:00] | Beirdo: | is /usr/local/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf? |
| [20:39:00] | watje: | libmyth-0.18.1.so libmyth-0.18.1.so.0.18 |
| [20:39:00] | watje: | libmyth-0.18.1.so.0 libmyth-0.18.1.so.0.18.1 |
| [20:39:00] | watje: | are all in /usr/loca/lib |
| [20:39:00] | laga: | Beirdo: ^5 ;) |
| [20:39:00] | watje: | thank you Beirdo |
| [20:39:00] | watje: | :) |
| [20:39:00] | watje: | works |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | no problem :) |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | it's a common issue |
| [20:40:00] | watje: | k |
| [20:40:00] | watje: | and one more problem |
| [20:40:00] | watje: | lircd 0.7.0: lircd(H=) ready |
| [20:40:00] | watje: | lircd 0.7.0: accepted new client on H= |
| [20:40:00] | watje: | lircd 0.7.0: Segmentation fault |
| [20:40:00] | watje: | it worked yesterday :/ |
| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | can't help you there, lirc has no use to me |
| [20:40:00] | watje: | k |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | I use an IR keyboard |
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| [20:43:00] | Rince: | Beirdo: I know I am annoying with my nuvexport-problem... but is there a way that you could help me with my nuvexport-on-amd64-problem? |
| [20:44:00] | Beirdo: | depends on what it is |
| [20:44:00] | poonj: | xris: if I install decss, the menu to record dvds would come up? |
| [20:44:00] | Beirdo: | poonj: try it and find out |
| [20:44:00] | poonj: | okay |
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| [20:46:00] | Rince: | Beirdo: ...just looking... |
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| [20:50:00] | Rince: | Ticket 22, forwarded by Ticket 40. How do I have to configure the "From MPEG2" and "From MPEG4"-transcoders other than leaving the defaults? and how can I test that? |
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| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | Hmmm? |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | what are you talking about? |
| [20:53:00] | Rince: | sorry |
| [20:53:00] | Rince: | should start at the beginning :) |
| [20:54:00] | Rince: | I try to make a nuvexport on my amd64-system (mythtv-0.18, nuvexport 0.2 0.20050723.cvs). |
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| [20:54:00] | Rince: | to the dvd-format |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [20:55:00] | Rince: | this hasn't worked and I made a trouble-ticket on forevermore; Ticket 22 there. |
| [20:55:00] | Rince: | the hints sounded good and I tried them (not using yuvdenoise and other hints) |
| [20:56:00] | Rince: | one thing mentioned there is that mythtranscode is usually started with "-p autodetect" where it gets the data from the transcoding profiles |
| [20:56:00] | Rince: | how can I find out wether these are properly configured or not? |
| [20:56:00] | jhoke: | heyas |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | Ummm, I don't think that you have to touch the settings in myth at all, we don't use them in nuvexport |
| [20:57:00] | Rince: | hm |
| [20:57:00] | Ryushin: | Beirdo: Hey, Kazan has been messaging me regarding his ban from this channel. He would like to be able to join the channel again. |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | then he can apologize to the person who banned him, and convince said person that he should be unbanned |
| [20:57:00] | jhoke: | why'd he get banned ? |
| [20:57:00] | jhoke: | i forgot ;) |
| [20:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | anyone ever try using transcode on ampegts recording? I've got a couple I want to convert to xvid but transcode either doesn't like them or I am just not doing it right :) |
| [20:57:00] | Rince: | Beirdo: in Troubleticket 40 I showed the next debug-output. Unfortunately, then I hve no clue anymore how to debug further unfortunately... |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | because he was pissing Chutt off with talking about illegal crap |
| [20:57:00] | Ryushin: | Because he was talking about DeCSS. |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | and being a dick |
| [20:58:00] | xris: | Ryushin: no, because he was being REALLY annoying. |
| [20:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | jhoke: He was banned for a couple minutes and it was removed as far asz I know. |
| [20:58:00] | jhoke: | thats right... now I remember... i had blocked it out ;) |
| [20:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, looks like it is still in place |
| [20:58:00] | jhoke: | lol |
| [20:58:00] | Rince: | :) |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | ifho, he's banned |
| [20:58:00] | Ryushin: | K. I wasn't here so I don't know. |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | if he wants back in, it's Chutt he has to convince first |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | and I doubt that will happen |
| [20:59:00] | jhoke: | Beirdo, how is Umbutu working for you on your dev boxes? I am gonna use it i guess for my amd64 box |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | and then he'll have to be on his absolutely best behavior if he gets back in |
| [20:59:00] | jhoke: | and buy us presents? |
| [20:59:00] | jhoke: | :) |
| [20:59:00] | Ryushin: | Beirdo: I told him. |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | I use ubuntu on my dev box, but I haven't been doing much development (computer-wise) lately. More development love-life-wise |
| [21:00:00] | Beirdo: | it works pretty well though. |
| [21:00:00] | Rince: | good change :) |
| [21:00:00] | ** Rince uses Ubuntu on his laptop... quite nicely ** | |
| [21:00:00] | Beirdo: | the good thing is, she's a geek-type too |
| [21:00:00] | jhoke: | Beirdo: Thanks.. looking for a good, stable, etc distro for AMD64 that is not gcc4 based |
| [21:00:00] | Beirdo: | but it's just too time consuming to do stuff at the same time as being with her :) |
| [21:01:00] | jhoke: | can't multitask yet? |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | yeah ubuntu hoary works well for me in that regards |
| [21:01:00] | jhoke: | :) |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | of course I *CAN* |
| [21:01:00] | Rince: | :) |
| [21:01:00] | _batdog is now known as batdog | |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | I don't want to, and we are at a great distance |
| [21:01:00] | Rince: | Beirdo: better give your girlfriend more time :) |
| [21:01:00] | jhoke: | I've been married (this time) for a year and change... but previous marriage was longer... learned how to multitask QUICKLY :) |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | heh, she's the one not giving ME time :) |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:02:00] | jhoke: | LOL... get used to it :) |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | Oh, I know |
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| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | be a lot easier when we aren't 3000 miles apart |
| [21:03:00] | Rince: | Beirdo: that's quite a lot... |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [21:03:00] | laga: | Beirdo: when my GF goes back to the US, it will be more than 3000miles for me ;) |
| [21:03:00] | jhoke: | Beirdo.. that sucks... I am on the road 75% of the time, so I know how BAD that sucks |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | so computer shit can wait :) |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | ya know? |
| [21:04:00] | Rince: | sure :) |
| [21:04:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [21:04:00] | Rince: | anyway... beirdo, do you have any idea where or how I can debug that problem further? |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | Chutt: Kazan trying to apologize for being a total ass yet? :) |
| [21:04:00] | Chutt: | nope. |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | Rince: not sure. are you sure you have the command line args for ffmpeg in the same order as nuvexport? |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | they may be in the wrong order |
| [21:06:00] | Rince: | Beirdo: well – I just made a copy and paste of the output... |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | maybe it's how ffmpeg was built. |
| [21:06:00] | Rince: | hm? |
| [21:07:00] | jhoke: | heh.... perfect.. a woman who never was a judge, but ran the Texas Lotto for the Supreme Court... much like a horse judge running FEMA LOL.... we are SOOO screwed |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | oh damn, real nice.... my ISP left in my old static IP's DNS records |
| [21:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | jhoke: huh ? |
| [21:07:00] | Rince: | *ouch* :) |
| [21:08:00] | jhoke: | Bush's nominee for the Supreme Court... she has no exp as a judge... but ran the Lottery for him in TX... |
| [21:08:00] | jhoke: | I wonder if she will take out the bingo balls for decidng cases |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | so ghurlbut.magma.ca still points at my old static IP |
| [21:08:00] | laga: | jhoke: uh. you don't have to be a lawyer to be there? |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | ghurlbut.s-ip.magma.ca at my new one |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | thanks, dumbasses |
| [21:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | jhoke: Seriously? That's messed up |
| [21:09:00] | jhoke: | She is a lawyer... and no you technically dont have to be one |
| [21:09:00] | jhoke: | what do you expect from a guy who puts a horse judge in charge of FEMA :( |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | jhoke: of course not, you just have to be a crony |
| [21:09:00] | Rince: | sounds like the film "at the first monday in october"... with Walter Mathhau :) |
| [21:09:00] | Rince: | Matthau, sorry |
| [21:09:00] | jhoke: | feh! Time to move north I guess |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | it was time for that a long time ago |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:10:00] | Rince: | sometimes I am happy living in Europe... :) |
| [21:10:00] | jhoke: | Beirdo... i know ... but cant take my stepdaughter across the border ... damn |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | why, is she a criminal? |
| [21:10:00] | jhoke: | no, her bio donor..er.. father wont allow us |
| [21:11:00] | Beirdo: | so adopt her? |
| [21:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Still need his consent for that too :) |
| [21:11:00] | jhoke: | cant... he still has parental rights |
| [21:11:00] | Beirdo: | stupid bugger, let the poor girl have a life |
| [21:11:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, yeah |
| [21:11:00] | Beirdo: | maybe an anvil will drop on his head |
| [21:11:00] | jhoke: | Nah... its ok... moving to the poconos moutnains in pennsylvania... |
| [21:11:00] | ** jhoke dreams ** | |
| [21:11:00] | Krazylegz: | Wooot! |
| [21:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, I know nothing about that guy, could be the biggest putz in the world. Personally I would never give up my daughter for anything. But if he is not involved he should let her go |
| [21:12:00] | jhoke: | as soon as our house is built we are heading to the mountains and getting outta NYC |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, getting outta NYC is likely a plan |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | "hey, fuck you!" |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:13:00] | jhoke: | Grey... I would never come btwn them ... she is like a daughter to me, so I want her to have that relationship... I grew up with one parent and well.. hated it |
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| [21:13:00] | ** jhoke gives Beirdo a "Welcome to NYC now get the fuck out" tshirt ** | |
| [21:13:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | My parents split up when I was 2 months old. |
| [21:13:00] | Beirdo: | I shoulda bought the "welcome to Vermont, no go home" shirt I saw when I was down there |
| [21:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I had no concept of it being any different :) |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | now rather |
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| [21:14:00] | jhoke: | Grey ... my mom died when i was 9 and had a revolving door of stepmoms... feh |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | that's not fun |
| [21:15:00] | jhoke: | so as long as she is happy seeing her dad, I am happy... |
| [21:15:00] | Beirdo: | tell him to move to Canada too :) |
| [21:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | My Stepdad came in when I was 7/8. When I think of my father he is the one who comes to mind |
| [21:16:00] | jhoke: | grey... yeah... i feel weird each time the runt slips and calls me dad |
| [21:16:00] | ** Beirdo sighs ** | |
| [21:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | It confuses people cause I use the term "Dad" for both of them hehe |
| [21:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | but 99% of the time I mean my step father :) |
| [21:17:00] | jhoke: | heh |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | Rince: I think the issue you are seeing likely is in ffmpeg itself |
| [21:17:00] | jhoke: | Beirdo: any gotchas to look for with Myth on Ubuntu? |
| [21:18:00] | Rince: | hm |
| [21:18:00] | jhoke: | (and are their any repo's I should know about for apt?) |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | maybe they changed the command line in CVS |
| [21:18:00] | Rince: | jhoke: there are, yes |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | jhoke: I don't run myth on the ubuntu machines yet |
| [21:19:00] | Rince: | Architecture: amd64 |
| [21:19:00] | Rince: | Version: 3:20050427–0.2 |
| [21:19:00] | jhoke: | Rince: Gotchas or Repos :) |
| [21:19:00] | Ryushin: | Question, why is talking about DeCSS frowned upon? I consider the DMCA to be just plain stupid. But when you buy something, should you be allowed to use it? I mean, I'm going to have the same problem with Blueray that we had with DVD's. If the MPAA is smart, they'll make a binary for unix that can allow you to play Blueray. But I'm sure that won't happen. |
| [21:19:00] | Rince: | Beirdo: which versino ffmpeg do you use, so I can just compile that one and try it? |
| [21:19:00] | jhoke: | I am installing 5.04 ... keeping back one rev so Ican keep gcc3 |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | ffmpeg version 0.4.9-pre1, build 4752, Copyright (c) 2000–2004 Fabrice Bellard |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | I run FC1 |
| [21:20:00] | Rince: | Beirdo: ok, I'll try to fetch that version... |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | oh jeez, Ryushin. |
| [21:20:00] | jhoke: | here we go again |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | you are cruising for a banning |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | whether the DMCA is stupid or not is irrelevant. it is the law |
| [21:21:00] | Ryushin: | Okay, okay. I'll drop it. I just don't understand what the problem was. |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | if you wanna change it, talk to the lawmakers |
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| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | here we will try to be as law abiding as possible |
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| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | even when the law is a flaming POS |
| [21:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ryushin: In general we try to keep the open channel and "Mythtv" as clearly away from any subject that might catch tyhe attention of anyones lawyers |
| [21:22:00] | Rince: | and that's a good idea IMHO |
| [21:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hence no torrents, no decss, no asking how to hack satellite signals , etc |
| [21:22:00] | Ryushin: | yea, you're right. |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | we don't need to make Isaac's life more difficult by attracting unwanted attention to stuff he has nothing to do with |
| [21:23:00] | Ryushin: | We don't want the lawyers to start looking at open source as bad. |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | aye :) |
| [21:23:00] | Rince: | so lets just drop that subject :) |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | yup :) |
| [21:23:00] | Chutt: | but, kazan wasn't banned for talking about decss |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | true, that was just part of it |
| [21:24:00] | xris: | Chutt: exactly. and he can't seem to get that through his head. |
| [21:24:00] | Chutt: | i gave him a +q because he was being terribly annoying for the 5 or 6th time in a couple days |
| [21:24:00] | Ryushin: | Well, he does seem to have a bit of an ego. |
| [21:24:00] | Chutt: | then he started acting like a 3 year old |
| [21:24:00] | Chutt: | so i turned it into a real ban |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [21:24:00] | xris: | I told him to cool off and play nice for a few weeks.. |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | and if he wants back in, he will need Chutt to unban him, I ain't gonna do it |
| [21:24:00] | xris: | and that no one but you (chutt) was going to undo the ban |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:24:00] | Chutt: | note, he wasn't banned originally, he just couldn't talk in here |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [21:25:00] | Chutt: | and i had intended to remove that in a bit |
| [21:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | hence why he messaged me heh |
| [21:25:00] | Chutt: | but joining the channel and messaging everyone bitching about it? |
| [21:25:00] | butabi (n=butabi@195.202.144.1) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | |
| [21:25:00] | Chutt: | and quitting irc immediately after messaging me a few times? |
| [21:25:00] | jhoke: | not the brightest bulb in the verse is he? |
| [21:25:00] | Chutt: | that's just fucking childish |
| [21:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | especially, me who couldn't care less :) |
| [21:25:00] | xris: | not everyone. just +v people or other talkative types.. and he says that he knows Ryushin from elsewhere. |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, we're better off without that nonsense |
| [21:25:00] | Ryushin: | It's not right. And you're right in doing what youdid. |
| [21:26:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [21:26:00] | ** Beirdo pokes kormoc in the ribs. wake UP ** | |
| [21:26:00] | Ryushin: | I wouldn't tolerate berating of people or just being rude. This is a public place. |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | and a LOGGED public place |
| [21:27:00] | xris: | anyway, new topic.... |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | too bad the bot was borked when he was doing it. |
| [21:27:00] | ivor: | so can europeans talk about decss in here before the US wakes up? :P |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [21:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | best off not |
| [21:27:00] | kormoc: | ivor, join #decc_BT_and_other_forbidden_topics and talk there! |
| [21:28:00] | ivor: | anyway who needs to talk about it in here? you just google.. and get a few thousand hits |
| [21:28:00] | jhoke: | LOL |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, no kidding |
| [21:28:00] | jhoke: | well, he also didnt like reading docs did he? |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | no he didn't |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:28:00] | jhoke: | IIRC |
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| [21:28:00] | FITH: | He was the one that didn't like reading in general I think... |
| [21:28:00] | ivor: | hehe: "Results 1 – 10 of about 707,000 for decss" |
| [21:28:00] | jhoke: | readin be fundimentalist like |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | and this isn't a legal activism channel, as much as we may whine about politics at times :) |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | hard to be a human without whining about politics once in a while |
| [21:29:00] | jhoke: | wait... this is not political_bloggers_for_unarmmed_insurrection? Shit ... wrong channel |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | I need rum |
| [21:30:00] | jhoke: | a chicken and a cigar? Using WIndows again are we? |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | just rum |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | and I use Windows (ick) at work. |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | to ssh to the UNIX boxes that I manage. |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use it on my work laptop. But use vnc Slackware sessions most of the time |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | as long as putty, xchat, firefox work... don't care about the rest |
| [21:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [21:32:00] | jhoke: | I blew my work laptop out ... installed SuSE and VMWare for Windows |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | well, and WMP for music (as it's preinstalled) |
| [21:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Company policy that I must use XP and whatever service pack on the laptop. I just use it as a conduit to other apps and machines |
| [21:32:00] | Chutt: | i wonder when dell's going to ship my wm5 update cd for my axim |
| [21:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | My desktop however is Linux only |
| [21:33:00] | ivor: | been playing with Vista beta2 for a few days.... |
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| [21:33:00] | ivor: | they've got a lot of work to do. |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx; sounds familiar |
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| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | and I don't care to manage yet another work machine otherwise... 100 servers is enough for me, thanks |
| [21:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | I haven't had a work desktop as a windows box since back in 98 when I got pissed and wiped the box heh |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | my main laptop at home's ubuntu |
| [21:35:00] | ** Beirdo is a frigging geek, can you tell? ** | |
| [21:35:00] | ** ivor thought we were all geeks in here.... ** | |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | of course |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | geeks and wannabe geeks would be the vast majority of this channel |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | maybe even a few nerds :) |
| [21:36:00] | ** laga is a wannabe geeks, that's less insulting ** | |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | laga: geek is good |
| [21:36:00] | epoch: | since when is geek insulting? |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | embrace it |
| [21:36:00] | laga: | Beirdo: aaaaaaaaah |
| [21:36:00] | epoch: | wannabe geek is crazy insulting |
| [21:36:00] | laga: | make it go away |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | geeks get well paid (usually) |
| [21:36:00] | epoch: | hahaha |
| [21:37:00] | epoch: | Beirdo: maybe 5 years ago ;P |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | and for some reason, women seem to like geeks |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | even now |
| [21:37:00] | jhoke: | The Geek Shall inherit the earth damnit |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | the whole job market took a shit, not just geekdom |
| [21:37:00] | laga: | Beirdo: right. women dig geeks. |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:37:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: what fantasy world do you live in? |
| [21:37:00] | jhoke: | hey... I cant think of another field where I can make the $ I am making ... and all w/out any college |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | rjune: what makes you say that? |
| [21:38:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: women like men that are able to take care of them, geekhood is irrelevant |
| [21:38:00] | jhoke: | has anyone seen this ubuntu/myth howto before? http://www.cs.rit.edu/~css8044/?q=mythtv |
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| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | rjune: heh, sorry to break it to you, but I stand by what I said |
| [21:39:00] | ** xris agrees with Beirdo about the women. ** | |
| [21:39:00] | rjune: | xris: hey |
| [21:39:00] | rjune: | I had a question for you |
| [21:39:00] | jhoke: | as do I... but I think there are two kinds of geeks... |
| [21:39:00] | xris: | yeah. you never asked it. |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | well, unless it was just "are you there?" |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | of course, it didn't hurt that the woman I love and who loves me... is also a bit geeky :) |
| [21:40:00] | jhoke: | LOL |
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| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | hell, she has the same job I have |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:40:00] | rjune: | xris: does SVN include DVD-burn and CD-burn? |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | huh? |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | oh, myth svn |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | not svn itself. |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | no clue |
| [21:40:00] | jhoke: | heh... I originally met my wife ovger 10 yrs ago when I was a singer and bartender in NYC... so she didnt know about my geekness till later LOL |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | oooh, a hidden geek |
| [21:41:00] | jhoke: | nah.. she just didnt see cyberpunks as the same as geeks ;) |
| [21:41:00] | jhoke: | lol |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:42:00] | Rince: | damned |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | ? |
| [21:42:00] | Rince: | ffmpeg non-cvs doesn't seem to like amd64 |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | oh, fun |
| [21:42:00] | xris: | I *thought* my wife was a geek when we met. |
| [21:42:00] | jhoke: | rince, I am finding alot of things dont like amd64 :( |
| [21:42:00] | xris: | she's now a closet geek. |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | xris: that's a shame, why is she hiding it? |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:42:00] | xris: | jhoke: about amd64 specifically, or 64 bit in general? |
| [21:43:00] | Rince: | Beirdo: not really fun ... |
| [21:43:00] | xris: | Beirdo: no clue, there. |
| [21:43:00] | jhoke: | xris: yes (both) |
| [21:43:00] | Rince: | jhoke: hey, they are quite silent! :) |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | Rince: I was being sarcastic, sorry |
| [21:43:00] | rjune: | xris: yeah myth svn |
| [21:43:00] | xris: | jhoke: anyway, I don't mess with any of that kind of stuff with myth, so I don't really even know what they are. |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | so I guess it's a matter of trying a version that does 64-bit and doesn't crap out |
| [21:43:00] | Rince: | Beirdo: yes, I thought so... but I am still trying to figure out what goes wrong :) |
| [21:44:00] | jhoke: | Beirdo: Yes |
| [21:44:00] | rjune: | xris: I'm trying to figure out what mythburn can do |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | until they stop breaking ffmpeg. |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | which might be forever |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | and they gave someone else the static IP I used to have. |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | so my old DNS entry is pointing at some other poor unsuspecting sap |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [21:45:00] | jhoke: | the distros that seem to work best with amd64 appear to be the newer ones, and gcc4 based...breaking parts of nuvexport and other bits feh |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | jhoke: ubuntu hoary |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | silly |
| [21:45:00] | jhoke: | installling now |
| [21:45:00] | jhoke: | havent tested it yet, so I cant say it is good ... yet:) |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | amd64 will break enough crap, you don't need gcc4 breaking the rest |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | people with their lazy code |
| [21:46:00] | jhoke: | heh |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | oooh, let's cast a pointer to a uint32 and back, that'll be safe. |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | have fun with that on AMD64 or sparc... |
| [21:47:00] | jhoke: | heh! |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | CRASH! |
| [21:47:00] | jhoke: | >poof< |
| [21:47:00] | jhoke: | I will bbiab... gotta go pick lil one up from school |
| [21:48:00] | Rince: | jhoke: sorry, freenode doesn't let me query you. It's debian amd64 |
| [21:50:00] | jhoke: | rince, n/p ... i didnt see an amd64 build when I last looked... |
| [21:50:00] | beavis: | my debian64 works great with myth |
| [21:50:00] | ** Beirdo still wonders where butthead is ** | |
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| [21:51:00] | smoke_: | hey guys, i know i ask a billiont imes, but is there a way to change the music-ui.xml background to something different than the theme.xml file? |
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| [21:51:00] | jhoke: | looking.. I dont see an amd64 debian... am I looking in the wrong place? |
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| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | smoke_: go play with it and stop asking |
| [21:51:00] | Rince: | beavis: more or less, yes :) |
| [21:51:00] | beavis: | any issues? |
| [21:52:00] | Rince: | beavis: a) mythdvd doesn't run, nuvexport / ffmpeg seems to have problems |
| [21:52:00] | smoke_: | Beirdo, i did i tried using the <background> tag but it doenst work in the music-ui.xml file... |
| [21:52:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [21:52:00] | Beirdo: | there is the code to read |
| [21:52:00] | beavis: | mythdvd doesn't run for you? |
| [21:52:00] | Rince: | beavis: I have no ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1 for it, only the cvs-version |
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| [21:52:00] | Beirdo: | obviously you aren't getting an answer here, so try to figure it out yourself with the themes that exist and the code |
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| [21:56:00] | gary: | anyone having any issues with mythfilldatabse? I can't seem to get anything past October 14 |
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| [22:01:00] | jhoke: | gary: Last mythfilldatabase run started on 2005-10–03 03:50 and ended on 2005-10–03 03:50. Successful. |
| [22:01:00] | jhoke: | There's guide data until 2005-10–17 06:00 (14 days). |
| [22:02:00] | jhoke: | Rince: Where did you get the debian AMD64 port? I dont see it on the mirror list :( |
| [22:03:00] | Rince: | jhoke: debian amd64 unstable is on the official debian-site, there is also http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian-pure64 |
| [22:03:00] | jhoke: | hmm... k.. will check when i get back ty |
| [22:04:00] | gary: | hmmm, interesting.. |
| [22:04:00] | Rince: | (and now I am also registered to nickserv...) |
| [22:05:00] | jhoke: | heh |
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| [22:05:00] | jhoke: | ok, the US mirror didnt have it apparently |
| [22:05:00] | gary: | my subscription is coming due – October 25. Any issues with that? |
| [22:06:00] | jhoke: | around Oct 19th go to the website and extend yuor subscription :) |
| [22:06:00] | gary: | k, so there is nothing on datadirect that may 'impede' grabbing when sub renewal is getting close.. |
| [22:06:00] | jhoke: | nope.. mine expires in 10 days |
| [22:08:00] | jhoke: | /msg rince so dumb question... I have not installed Debian in *ages* where do I get teh netboot cd for AMD64? |
| [22:08:00] | jhoke: | LOL |
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| [22:09:00] | gary: | on that status page in myth, it is say mythfilldatabase ran but not insert. I can read the rest of the message as it is truncated. Does anyone know where the status information is kep? |
| [22:09:00] | gary: | sorry, I can't read the rest of the message |
| [22:10:00] | jhoke: | gary you using Fedoracore and atrpms? |
| [22:10:00] | jhoke: | if so /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log |
| [22:10:00] | jhoke: | er.. myuthfilldatabase.log |
| [22:11:00] | gary: | no, custom build, which has worked fine up till now. The log file does not show anything. I am assuming that status information is also held in the mysql database somehere |
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| [22:12:00] | Henkie: | my seektables seem to be corrupt all the time |
| [22:12:00] | Rince: | jhoke: good questino... I'll try to find out, ok? |
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| [22:15:00] | Rince: | jhoke: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing . . . -netinst.iso – what about that? |
| [22:15:00] | Rince: | amd64 is not yet in the stable distribution... |
| [22:17:00] | jhoke: | i gathered that.. ty much :) |
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| [22:22:00] | gary: | This is what I found in the database "mythfilldatabase ran, but did not insert any new data into the Guide. This can indicate a potential grabber failure." – any ideas of how to troubleshoot this more effectively. |
| [22:25:00] | simon_c: | Are there any docs anywhere on the table layout in the database ? |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [22:26:00] | simon_c: | Ahh. |
| [22:27:00] | simon_c: | So is there an easy way to rename a recording ? |
| [22:27:00] | syle: | yeah its called phpmyadmin , look at it after you create it lol |
| [22:28:00] | syle: | idk, movies are so much simpler |
| [22:28:00] | syle: | mv blah blah2 |
| [22:28:00] | syle: | rm blah |
| [22:28:00] | syle: | etc |
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| [22:28:00] | simon_c: | syle: I'll give it a try. |
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| [22:44:00] | gary: | k, doing some more PD, and it doesn't look like I am getting a complete download. Does anyone know where mythfilldatabase stores the XML file after download? |
| [22:45:00] | Fosten: | can anybody recommend a good remote? |
| [22:47:00] | Beirdo: | a kid with a keyboard... and a stick to poke them with |
| [22:48:00] | Fosten: | where can i buy one of these kids? |
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| [22:48:00] | Beirdo: | nearest orphanage? |
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| [22:54:00] | Icks: | having sex can work too, the order takes a while tho.. |
| [22:55:00] | gary: | Further PD – seems I have updated information for some channels and not for others, which points me back to not getting a complete download. Any advice....anyone?? |
| [23:00:00] | Nemas: | Anyone know how to fix washed out colors on a ATI Wonder Pro? It looks great under windows just under RF4 it looks like crap. Could it be a driver problem? |
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| [23:02:00] | Nemas: | It also is only when viewing live TV, when watching a DVD everything looks perfect. |
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| [23:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | the CPU depends a lot of the type of capture card |
| [23:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
| [23:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | my kid likes the up arrow :) |
| [23:16:00] | Krazylegz: | Looks to me like your up arrow likes your kid. :-P |
| [23:18:00] | Beirdo: | it's home time |
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| [23:35:00] | BlurredWe: | what was the command which dumps to the command line what signals the remote is getting? |
| [23:35:00] | travolta: | irw and irrecord |
| [23:37:00] | knothead: | How do I change the initialization commands that myth runs to get a tuner going? |
| [23:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | vi source.cpp |
| [23:38:00] | knothead: | shoot, rpm install...this is going to take a while :) |
| [23:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | What exactly are you trying to accomplish ? |
| [23:39:00] | knothead: | 2 things: my master volume setting is being changed to a lower value than I want, and my pvr-500 card has the volume turned up too high – I'm getting clipping |
| [23:40:00] | knothead: | I can fix both of these but if I exit to menu and watch live tv again the values go back |
| [23:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, the volume coming from the 500 is configurable (in the recording profiles I think) |
| [23:40:00] | knothead: | I'll try that |
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| [23:42:00] | knothead: | Great that works |
| [23:42:00] | knothead: | do you know how to fix the master volume reset? |
| [23:42:00] | knothead: | it's being reset to a value of 71 |
| [23:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | not particularly |
| [23:42:00] | knothead: | ok |
| [23:43:00] | Frostilicus: | I didn't have lirc up and running when I first compiled and installed mythtv, but the libraries were on the system and configure showed that support was compiled in... |
| [23:43:00] | Frostilicus: | now that i've finally got lirc working I can't get it working with mythtv, anyone have any ideas? |
| [23:44:00] | Frostilicus: | running irw and clicking away shows the correct buttons being pressed and everything |
| [23:47:00] | beavis (n=beavis@p54A7B157.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [23:50:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: kormoc isn't doing any work and he's playing on IRC and looking at Snopes and you should fire him!!! :-P |
| [23:51:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: don't tell me how to manage my minion. :) |
| [23:52:00] | xris: | I'm so out of it today that I doubt I've been much more productive. |
| [23:52:00] | glen___ (n=glen@194.106.120.90) has left #mythtv-users | |
| [23:53:00] | Thus0 (n=Thus0@208.50.228.68) has joined #mythtv-users | |
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