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| [00:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey xris do you know of any guide on how to use xvid for the extreme compression like you do with your movies or is that all default? |
| [00:22:00] | atomjack: | anyone know anything about ffmpeg? |
| [00:24:00] | rjune: | xris: you do Xtreme compression? |
| [00:25:00] | smoke_: | hey |
| [00:25:00] | smoke_: | if i have directtv, .. is there a way to control the channels with mythtv? |
| [00:25:00] | smoke_: | or do i have to use the directtv remote? |
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| [00:27:00] | smoke_: | or actually, how do i specify different background images for the popup windows and such? |
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| [00:29:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: huh? |
| [00:29:00] | xris: | smoke_: irblaster.info... or there are some serial-control programs if your dtv box has a serial input |
| [00:29:00] | smoke_: | k |
| [00:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, you were telling me ohh a few weeks ago about how you could compress your videos down to about 170ish mb per hour of video |
| [00:31:00] | smoke_: | ehh |
| [00:31:00] | smoke_: | what if my directtv box doesnt have serial? im out of luck? |
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| [00:33:00] | smoke_: | ok this irblaster... |
| [00:33:00] | smoke_: | it actually emits another laser like a remote to the directtv box? or do i plug the irblaster to the driecttv box itself? |
| [00:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | smoke_, I use the rs232 from mythbox to cablebox it works awesome :) I dont know about how directtv ones work but hey |
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| [00:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if you can do rs232 i would advise it |
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| [00:39:00] | smoke_: | k |
| [00:39:00] | smoke_: | how does it learn the codes? |
| [00:42:00] | rsdvd: | Hi......does anyone know if an EPIA 5000 is strong enough to use as a MythFrontend? |
| [00:42:00] | Juski: | rsdvd... probably – for mpeg2 only though |
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| [00:43:00] | rsdvd: | I have a pvr-150 and a Nova-T DVB card......would it work? |
| [00:43:00] | Juski: | probably, rsdvd |
| [00:43:00] | rsdvd: | which board would you suggest that could handle playback of them and also playback of DVDs etc |
| [00:43:00] | Juski: | I run a frontend on an EPIA 10k board |
| [00:44:00] | Juski: | backend doesn't use much CPU with DVB or mpeg2 hardware encoding cards |
| [00:44:00] | Juski: | and it plays back divx & xvid movies |
| [00:44:00] | rsdvd: | this would be frontend only....i have a separate backend in the study |
| [00:45:00] | Juski: | I think a 500mhz EPIA might be stretching things a little |
| [00:45:00] | Juski: | push the boat out & buy at least an 800mhz model :) |
| [00:45:00] | rsdvd: | :-) I have very little money and need to build at least 2 fronends....so I am trying to do it as cheap as pos |
| [00:46:00] | Juski: | xbox is the cheapest way.. end of story |
| [00:46:00] | rsdvd: | if you have an xbox |
| [00:46:00] | Juski: | there's also a way to get a frontend on a Hauppage MVP but I don't know how fully-featured it is |
| [00:46:00] | Juski: | you can buy an xbox for less than £99 these days.. try building a PC for that little |
| [00:47:00] | kormoc: | rsdvd, but 2x xboxs are cheaper then 2x 500 mhz EPIAs |
| [00:47:00] | rsdvd: | I was intrigued by that ont he last the other day....the MVP looks ery meat |
| [00:47:00] | smoke_: | any themers here? |
| [00:47:00] | rsdvd: | true.....how hard is it to change an Xbox to be a frontend? |
| [00:48:00] | Juski: | takes about a couple of hours |
| [00:48:00] | Juski: | rsdvd... depends if you still want to use it as an xbox ;) |
| [00:48:00] | rsdvd: | :-) I have never played one....and don;t really want to |
| [00:49:00] | rsdvd: | I don;t do games |
| [00:49:00] | Juski: | exploit a buffer overflow in a saved game on a memory card... |
| [00:49:00] | Juski: | flash the bios... |
| [00:49:00] | Juski: | load linux onto it... |
| [00:49:00] | Juski: | tada |
| [00:50:00] | Juski: | worst case scenario is where you need a chip to bypass its BIOS |
| [00:50:00] | rsdvd: | does it need to be any particular xbox (are there differnt ones) |
| [00:50:00] | Juski: | but they can be had for £15 these days |
| [00:50:00] | Juski: | try to get a 1.4 or earlier.. there are plenty of guides on xbox sites which tell you how to tell |
| [00:51:00] | Juski: | they're up to 1.6 now (maybe higher), so the software hacks are less likely to work |
| [00:51:00] | rsdvd: | |
| [00:51:00] | Juski: | stuff ebay |
| [00:52:00] | Juski: | buy one from a shop cheaper |
| [00:52:00] | Juski: | all you need is the box |
| [00:52:00] | rsdvd: | ok |
| [00:52:00] | Juski: | the majority of Ebay buyers are fools IMHO |
| [00:52:00] | rsdvd: | Don;t say that......I make my living on ebay |
| [00:53:00] | Juski: | I sold a **cassette** deck on there for £60 a couple of months ago |
| [00:53:00] | rsdvd: | (and yes...most of my customers are) |
| [00:53:00] | Juski: | god bless em lol |
| [00:53:00] | rsdvd: | |
| [00:53:00] | Juski: | there's at least one born every minute |
| [00:53:00] | Juski: | they STILL £99.99?! |
| [00:53:00] | Goshun: | I get this error when trying to compile mythtv any ideas? http://pastebin.ca/24256 |
| [00:54:00] | Juski: | I paid that for mine like 18 months ago |
| [00:54:00] | rsdvd: | not seen them any cheaper anywhere |
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| [00:54:00] | CanadaBoy: | anyone here using xbox asa frontend? |
| [00:54:00] | Juski: | Goshun.. probably a QT incompatability |
| [00:55:00] | Goshun: | I think the best place to get an xbox would be the pawn shop |
| [00:55:00] | Goshun: | Juski: ok, I am running mandrake 2006/cooker |
| [00:55:00] | rsdvd: | lol as long as it is not the porn shop :-) |
| [00:55:00] | Goshun: | 64 bit edition |
| [00:55:00] | Juski: | eeks not 64-bit |
| [00:55:00] | ** Juski is still a 32-bit luddite ** | |
| [00:56:00] | Goshun: | I am starting to think I need to downgrade to standard 32 bit, its tough being an early adopter |
| [00:56:00] | Goshun: | they have mythtv packages for 32 bit mandrake |
| [00:56:00] | Juski: | someone's gotta do it, Goshun, or they'll never iron out the wrinkles |
| [00:56:00] | smoke_: | anyone here know much about theming mythtv? |
| [00:56:00] | smoke_: | or could direct me to a url? heh |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | dammmit, you just keep asking |
| [00:57:00] | Goshun: | well, I don't know how I can help, I guess I could post this somewhere |
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| [00:58:00] | smoke_: | Beirdo, heh :) |
| [00:58:00] | Juski: | CanadaBoy & rsdvd: http://www.talktodan.com/geek/mythtv/ |
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| [01:00:00] | Juski: | smoke_ – why not have a look at the xml files for the themes to get an idea what's going on in there ;) |
| [01:00:00] | rsdvd: | are there any draw-backs of using an Xbox for a frontend? |
| [01:01:00] | smoke_: | Juski, i already did that. |
| [01:01:00] | Juski: | only the NOISE they make |
| [01:01:00] | smoke_: | Juski, i need to know how to set the backgrounds for the little menu windows and such |
| [01:01:00] | Juski: | but they're easy enough to quieten down |
| [01:01:00] | Juski: | which little menu windows, smoke? |
| [01:01:00] | Juski: | the OSD? |
| [01:01:00] | smoke_: | umm, like when it says "prescaling themes" |
| [01:02:00] | smoke_: | that popup window |
| [01:02:00] | rsdvd: | juski......are they very noisy? I currently have a normal PC in the bedroom...and I wanted to replace it with a quieter frontend |
| [01:02:00] | Juski: | they're generally quieter than a normal PC, rsdvd |
| [01:02:00] | Juski: | you mean the theme background PNG? |
| [01:03:00] | Juski: | smoke... all the backgrounds & buttons are just png graphics |
| [01:05:00] | smoke_: | Juski, no, i have one set. |
| [01:05:00] | smoke_: | but i want to set a seperate one for the popup windows |
| [01:08:00] | Juski: | just do some digging around.. you'll find out how to do it... ;) |
| [01:08:00] | Juski: | tip: back up your themes directory, then have a play |
| [01:09:00] | Juski: | you can't really hurt anything unless you start deleting/renaming files willy-nilly |
| [01:10:00] | Juski: | smoke_: go into your mythtv machine... change directory into /usr/share/mythtv/themes/Titivillus-OSD and tell me what you see in there |
| [01:11:00] | kwatz: | hrm |
| [01:11:00] | smoke_: | :/ |
| [01:11:00] | smoke_: | k |
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| [01:12:00] | kwatz: | i've fetched from zap2it 4 times with different values in the "Time offset for XMLTV listings", but it's always been one hour ahead |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | kwatz, did you try setting your computer clock correctly? |
| [01:13:00] | kwatz: | it is |
| [01:13:00] | kwatz: | "date" reads 19:10, EST |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | odd |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | ooh |
| [01:14:00] | kormoc: | zap2it isn't affected by the XMLTV listing timeoffset is it? it's not XMLTV |
| [01:14:00] | CyberKnet: | rob: did xris get his new minion yet? |
| [01:14:00] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, not yet, nope |
| [01:14:00] | CyberKnet: | :| |
| [01:14:00] | rsdvd: | Juski : how quiet is your Epai M10k?....the 10K seems to still ahve a fan ? |
| [01:14:00] | kwatz: | ah...that'd explain that much |
| [01:14:00] | kwatz: | is there a time zone setting for zap2it? |
| [01:14:00] | kwatz: | looked, haven't been able to find one yet |
| [01:14:00] | xris: | still looking |
| [01:14:00] | Juski: | I modded it, rsdvd, so it no longer has a fan ;) |
| [01:15:00] | xris: | kwatz: there's a setting within myth to offset zap2it inconsistencies. |
| [01:15:00] | rsdvd: | is it noisy without your mod? |
| [01:15:00] | Juski: | but it wasn't exactly noisy before... just my living room is quieter than 25dBA |
| [01:15:00] | kwatz: | where would i find that? |
| [01:15:00] | Juski: | you know it's on if there's no audio playing, rsdvd |
| [01:15:00] | rsdvd: | mine will be in the bedroom......so I need to be able to sleep through it |
| [01:15:00] | Juski: | yeah – no problems there... but see how it goes |
| [01:16:00] | rsdvd: | was it hard to mod? |
| [01:16:00] | Juski: | if it's too loud, buy a northbridge heatsink from Zalman and replace the stock HSF with that – then put a 60mm slow rpm fan above it |
| [01:16:00] | Juski: | nope! |
| [01:16:00] | rsdvd: | |
| [01:17:00] | Juski: | rsdvd.. if you use a diskless frontend like minimyth the machine will be even quieter |
| [01:17:00] | rsdvd: | I was thining about PXE |
| [01:17:00] | rsdvd: | or maybe a USB/CF disk |
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| [01:18:00] | Juski: | it has to be on the network anyway, so why not minimyth? |
| [01:18:00] | Juski: | boots in less than a minute |
| [01:18:00] | rsdvd: | never used it......I am rather new to all this stuff |
| [01:18:00] | smoke_: | minimyth? |
| [01:18:00] | Juski: | minimyth is a ready made distro made especially for EPIA based PCs |
| [01:19:00] | smoke_: | ah k |
| [01:19:00] | Juski: | it's about 64MB in size |
| [01:19:00] | rsdvd: | ok......but will it need a local HDD? |
| [01:19:00] | Juski: | nope |
| [01:19:00] | Juski: | works with PXE |
| [01:20:00] | rsdvd: | ok.....so you just mount it on a server and let pxe pull it over at boot time |
| [01:20:00] | Juski: | yep |
| [01:20:00] | rsdvd: | sounds good |
| [01:20:00] | Juski: | works beautifully :) |
| [01:20:00] | rsdvd: | is it what you use? |
| [01:20:00] | Juski: | I use a oneforall remote control with a home-made serial port receiver with it |
| [01:21:00] | Juski: | I swear by it, as does my wife |
| [01:21:00] | Juski: | (as opposed to AT it like we used to do with the xbox) |
| [01:21:00] | rsdvd: | how hard is it to make the reciveer? |
| [01:21:00] | Juski: | can you solder? |
| [01:21:00] | Juski: | I've got a couple of spares I could send you if you pay the postage |
| [01:21:00] | rsdvd: | Not very well....but I studied electronics for 3 years |
| [01:21:00] | kwatz: | hm... |
| [01:22:00] | kwatz: | problem with QT, perhaps...http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/122546 |
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| [01:22:00] | rsdvd: | Juski.......I would be very interested if you do have some spare |
| [01:22:00] | Juski: | you should be able to solder a little 3 pin device onto some stripboard with a couple of resistors & a diode ;) |
| [01:23:00] | Juski: | I got the IR receiver chips as (ahem) samples from a distributor |
| [01:23:00] | rsdvd: | it is over 15 years since I last used a soldering iron |
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| [01:24:00] | Juski: | I've got 2 spares here, but I need to keep one |
| [01:25:00] | Juski: | should be able to rustle up another one tomorrow in my lunchbreak |
| [01:25:00] | rsdvd: | :-) |
| [01:25:00] | rsdvd: | if you want to donate them.....I would raelly appreciate it! I will pay whatever it costs you |
| [01:25:00] | Juski: | can't see any problem.. I got a paypal account ;) |
| [01:26:00] | Juski: | register over at www.mythtvtalk.com/forums and send me a PM with your details when you're ready |
| [01:27:00] | Juski: | I thought about selling them as a sideline.. but I wouldn;t want anything to do with the tech support lol |
| [01:28:00] | rsdvd: | that link does nto work |
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| [01:28:00] | Juski: | try www.mythtvtalk.com/forum then |
| [01:29:00] | Juski: | my bad |
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| [01:29:00] | rsdvd: | :-) |
| [01:29:00] | lotia: | folks would installing a second pvr-500 card ever cause X to fail? |
| [01:29:00] | Juski: | lotia... in theory.. no |
| [01:30:00] | lotia: | i have an nvidia card in my machine running the nvidia drivers, x doesn't start anymore. worked fine before i added the second card. |
| [01:30:00] | lotia: | backend is chugging along merrily |
| [01:30:00] | Juski: | what happens if you take the card out again? does X start working? |
| [01:30:00] | kormoc: | lotia, what's in the Xorg.log? |
| [01:31:00] | lotia: | juski, now a slave to the myth schedule. don't want to interrupt since its recording |
| [01:32:00] | rsdvd: | juski: how much would you want for the recievers? |
| [01:32:00] | lotia: | will check once i have a break |
| [01:32:00] | Juski: | hmm... call it £5 delivered, rsdvd |
| [01:32:00] | rsdvd: | each or for 2 :-) |
| [01:33:00] | Juski: | for 2, but they're not cased mind |
| [01:33:00] | briand: | is it possible, when you were installing the card, that you jostled something? maybe one (or more) of your PCI cards aren't fully seated... |
| [01:33:00] | rsdvd: | juski; give me your paypal account and I will send it now |
| [01:34:00] | Juski: | wait til I've made another one... then PM me your details, rsdvd |
| [01:34:00] | rsdvd: | ok! |
| [01:34:00] | lotia: | briand: if you were talking to me, i doubt it, since console mode comes up |
| [01:34:00] | Juski: | I need to test them before shipping anything out to you rsdvd ;) |
| [01:34:00] | rsdvd: | I could send it to you now and you can mail them when you make the other one |
| [01:35:00] | Juski: | I'd rather not give my paypal ID out if you don't mind... seen as this channel is logged and searchable on google etc |
| [01:35:00] | simon_c_home: | Hi. I'm having problem reading the myth GUI fonts on my TV. I've tried setting the fonts to "big" in the apperance bit, and upping the actual point size, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. They still look tiny on my TV. Any sugestions ? |
| [01:38:00] | rsdvd: | Juski :ok...I have sent you a PM .......let me know when you are ready |
| [01:38:00] | Juski: | will do |
| [01:39:00] | rsdvd: | right....I am off to bed! catch you soon |
| [01:39:00] | lotia: | is there a pasteboard i can use to post the error log |
| [01:39:00] | simon_c_home: | And, I'm also having problems getting playback exactly right. The left hand edge of the playback area is slightly wavey |
| [01:39:00] | rsdvd: | Iotia.....try www.paste.me.uk |
| [01:39:00] | lotia: | never mine, sorry i read the topic! |
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| [01:40:00] | lotia: | http://pastebin.ca/24259 |
| [01:40:00] | lotia: | this the error i get in /var/log/messages when i try to start X |
| [01:40:00] | briand: | so, if I have a working MythTV setup, with a PVR-350... what (if anything) do I need to do to get a second card (such as a PVR-500) working, aside from (obviously) installing the card? |
| [01:41:00] | tmk: | lotia: you're out of memory |
| [01:41:00] | tmk: | or at least vmalloc memory |
| [01:41:00] | tmk: | brinad: put hte card in, ivtv will detect it (or should) |
| [01:41:00] | lotia: | i think not. vmstat says something different and so does top. this box has 2 gig of ram. |
| [01:41:00] | tmk: | then run mythbackend setup again |
| [01:42:00] | tmk: | vmalloc ram is a special pool |
| [01:42:00] | briand: | mythbackend_setup == a script I ran way back when, or the 'Setup' portion of the GUI? |
| [01:43:00] | lotia: | tmk is there a control in sysctl to increase it? |
| [01:43:00] | tmk: | if you've compiled mythtv, it's in programs/setup |
| [01:43:00] | tmk: | lotia: there's a kernel boot-time option that your logs recommend |
| [01:43:00] | tmk: | but i'm just reading your logs to you :) |
| [01:43:00] | briand: | i didn't compile (all of it, anyway)... i installed from mythtv-suite. |
| [01:43:00] | tmk: | briand: it's where you configured which input of your card was which type (tuner, video in, etc) |
| [01:44:00] | tmk: | you probably only ran it once |
| [01:44:00] | briand: | tmk: so, theoretically (and i stress that!), it should be a five minute upgrade. |
| [01:44:00] | tmk: | it's not the setup you get to from mythfrontend |
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| [01:44:00] | tmk: | yeah theoretically |
| [01:44:00] | briand: | okay, yeah.. i vaguely remember running it before. I'll find it. |
| [01:44:00] | tmk: | if you use a pvr500 or pvr150 |
| [01:44:00] | tmk: | you may need newer ivtv also |
| [01:45:00] | tmk: | they aren't quite as well-supported as 350's and 250's yet |
| [01:45:00] | briand: | i have fairly new ivtv, as i had some issues getting the framebuffer working correctly on the 350, at first. |
| [01:45:00] | tmk: | i'd recommend using the svn version if you go with a 150 or 500 |
| [01:45:00] | briand: | svn? |
| [01:45:00] | tmk: | like cvs |
| [01:45:00] | briand: | ah |
| [01:46:00] | briand: | and the 500MCE is sufficient, as i already have the remote, etc on the PVR-350, right? |
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| [01:46:00] | tmk: | yeah |
| [01:46:00] | tmk: | that'd add 2 more tuners |
| [01:46:00] | briand: | (and hardware-based decoding, to boot!) |
| [01:46:00] | briand: | right. |
| [01:46:00] | tmk: | yeah i have a 350 :) |
| [01:46:00] | tmk: | the first one supported in linux, i daresay ;) |
| [01:47:00] | briand: | i looked at the 250, but for about 10 bucks more, i can get a 500MCE |
| [01:47:00] | atomjack: | anyone know anything about ffmpeg? |
| [01:47:00] | tmk: | yeah 250's are expensive |
| [01:47:00] | tmk: | 150's much cheaper |
| [01:47:00] | briand: | why is that? |
| [01:47:00] | tmk: | different video decoder chipset |
| [01:47:00] | briand: | the 250 and the 500 both have hardware-based mpeg encoders, right? |
| [01:47:00] | tmk: | the 250 uses separate chips for the audio and video analog->digital conversion |
| [01:47:00] | atomjack: | yep |
| [01:47:00] | tmk: | the 150 uses a conexant all-in-one |
| [01:47:00] | briand: | ah. |
| [01:48:00] | briand: | so, would you recommend the 250 as the second card, rather than the 500, then? |
| [01:48:00] | tmk: | well if you want it to work as quick as possible |
| [01:48:00] | tmk: | 250's are very well supported |
| [01:48:00] | tmk: | however it is very nice having 3 tuners |
| [01:48:00] | tmk: | :) |
| [01:48:00] | briand: | how many do you have? |
| [01:48:00] | atomjack: | or else i don't suppose anyone uses myth's internal playing for mythvideo, and is also able to get matroska(mkv) files to play properly? |
| [01:48:00] | tmk: | i have 1 350 and 2x 250's |
| [01:48:00] | atomjack: | *player |
| [01:49:00] | tmk: | but the 250's are in a separate backend |
| [01:49:00] | briand: | i have just the PVR-350, so far... and it's in a Pundit box — so I only have one more slot (in that box). |
| [01:49:00] | tmk: | ah |
| [01:49:00] | jonK: | I have a 350 and 2 500's — I agree multiple tuners is nice |
| [01:49:00] | atomjack: | i have a 350 and an hd-3000:D |
| [01:49:00] | tmk: | i recommend not splitting your stuff up into multiple backends |
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| [01:50:00] | tmk: | wow. that's a lot of tuners jonK |
| [01:50:00] | briand: | jonK: do you, now? under what OS? |
| [01:50:00] | atomjack: | i'd love to get another hd-3000 |
| [01:50:00] | jonK: | and I have an hd3000 but never really got it working |
| [01:50:00] | jonK: | ubuntu |
| [01:50:00] | tmk: | does the hd-3000 playback on the pvr-350? |
| [01:50:00] | briand: | jonK: so do you get picture+picture+picture+picture-in-picture? ;) |
| [01:51:00] | atomjack: | i dont use the 350 for playback, just encoding |
| [01:51:00] | tmk: | heh. why a 350 then? |
| [01:51:00] | jonK: | I do use it for playback, which seems to disrput the ivtv driver |
| [01:51:00] | jonK: | i can't use the first tuner of the first pvr 500 |
| [01:51:00] | atomjack: | cause i didnt' have an hdtv or hd-3000 when i first set myth up, and the general agreement was the 350 was the best card out there |
| [01:51:00] | tmk: | ah |
| [01:51:00] | jonK: | so of the 5 i have 4 useable |
| [01:51:00] | tmk: | jonK: that's odd.. is it out of memory or something? |
| [01:52:00] | jonK: | no, conflict driver does not load properly |
| [01:52:00] | briand: | okay, but can you get, then, 3 pictures in the main picture at once, or just one PiP ? |
| [01:52:00] | jonK: | some have suggested it may be the via chipset |
| [01:52:00] | tmk: | jonk can i see your error messages? |
| [01:52:00] | jonK: | that i have on the mainboard |
| [01:53:00] | jonK: | tuner: type set to 57 (Philips FQ1236A MK4) by ivtv i2c driver #1 |
| [01:53:00] | jonK: | ivtv: i2c client addr: 0x44 not found for command 1074029571! |
| [01:53:00] | jonK: | the second line repeats four times |
| [01:53:00] | tmk: | ah |
| [01:54:00] | jonK: | but some of the ivtv messages don't appear |
| [01:54:00] | tmk: | and does it record, but just static? |
| [01:54:00] | jonK: | i don't' recall |
| [01:54:00] | jonK: | just know it wont record |
| [01:54:00] | tmk: | heh |
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| [01:54:00] | jonK: | so I dont have it defined as an available tuner |
| [01:54:00] | tmk: | it sounds to me like you may have the wrong tuner module loading |
| [01:55:00] | jonK: | it's not the tuner module |
| [01:55:00] | tmk: | what is 0x44 |
| [01:55:00] | jonK: | if i remove the 350 all four tuners on the 200 load fine |
| [01:55:00] | jonK: | on the 500's |
| [01:55:00] | jonK: | it's the combo of the two cards |
| [01:55:00] | tmk: | hmm |
| [01:55:00] | jonK: | and possibly the via chipset |
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| [01:56:00] | briand: | have you ever tried it with the 350 and only one of the 500's? |
| [01:56:00] | tmk: | well if you can live with it, i can.. but it's probably just a driver bug |
| [01:56:00] | jonK: | at some point ill replace the mainboard |
| [01:56:00] | jonK: | yes |
| [01:56:00] | jonK: | same problem |
| [01:56:00] | briand: | so it's not a lack of dma type of problem, then |
| [01:56:00] | tmk: | the via problems were only dma issues, and don't really happen much anymore i don't think |
| [01:57:00] | jonK: | it's a bit older board |
| [01:57:00] | jonK: | running an athlon 2200 |
| [01:57:00] | jonK: | plus hurricane rita shut down the power, so nothing got recorded then either |
| [01:57:00] | simon_c_home: | on the mythfronend, when you're watching a recordings. How can you organise the list on the left hand side ? |
| [01:58:00] | tmk: | you mean besides alphabetically? |
| [01:58:00] | briand: | jonK: where are you located? |
| [01:58:00] | jonK: | houston |
| [01:58:00] | briand: | ah. |
| [01:58:00] | ** briand works for Florida Em. Mgt. ** | |
| [01:58:00] | jonK: | sadly i became an evacuee |
| [01:59:00] | briand: | no power issues here, but we (just today!) finally downgraded our status to level-3 |
| [01:59:00] | briand: | (meaning, briand doesn't have to work 12+ hours a day, every day, no weekends, holidays off, etc) |
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| [01:59:00] | briand: | we've been at level 1 or 2 since mid-July |
| [02:00:00] | jonK: | although i did evacuee myself to playa del carmen |
| [02:00:00] | jonK: | so it wasn't a total loss |
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| [02:01:00] | briand: | did you have any damage at your house? |
| [02:01:00] | jonK: | live in high rise no issues of any kind |
| [02:01:00] | briand: | good.. glad to hear it. :) |
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| [02:01:00] | JaPhFleX: | hello all, does anyone have any thoughts on why mythfrontend might segfault at startup? Right after the inserting MythDVD initial database... message |
| [02:02:00] | jonK: | I had planned to be out of town for a couple months |
| [02:02:00] | jonK: | i was worried my trip would be ruined by a hurricane |
| [02:02:00] | jonK: | instead i was running from one |
| [02:03:00] | JaPhFleX: | jon: you in new orleans? |
| [02:03:00] | jonK: | houston, we talking rita |
| [02:03:00] | JaPhFleX: | ah |
| [02:03:00] | JaPhFleX: | i was just there |
| [02:03:00] | JaPhFleX: | volunteer for FEMA |
| [02:03:00] | jonK: | as a complete coincidence, I had planned to be out of town last wed-sun |
| [02:04:00] | JaPhFleX: | ah |
| [02:04:00] | jonK: | i left just before the roads/airport turned to shit and spent four days scuba diving and sitting on a beach |
| [02:04:00] | JaPhFleX: | nice |
| [02:04:00] | JaPhFleX: | we got stuck down there |
| [02:04:00] | jonK: | as being a hurricane refugee goes, doing it in cancun not so bad |
| [02:04:00] | JaPhFleX: | so we drove to mexico for a day |
| [02:05:00] | JaPhFleX: | cancun — the worst hurricane shelter ever:) |
| [02:05:00] | JaPhFleX: | ugh, myth is crazy |
| [02:05:00] | JaPhFleX: | i need a damned error message:-/ |
| [02:06:00] | tmk: | JaPhFleX: did you do -v all |
| [02:06:00] | tmk: | ie 'mythfrontend -v all' |
| [02:06:00] | JaPhFleX: | yeah |
| [02:06:00] | JaPhFleX: | it gives me nothing |
| [02:07:00] | tmk: | and you removed all the modules first? |
| [02:07:00] | JaPhFleX: | um sorry? |
| [02:07:00] | tmk: | well if it's crashing while loading a module |
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| [02:07:00] | JaPhFleX: | that wasnt in my howto |
| [02:07:00] | tmk: | erm? |
| [02:07:00] | JaPhFleX: | i was following the fedora mythtv howto |
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| [02:08:00] | JaPhFleX: | wilsonet.com |
| [02:08:00] | JaPhFleX: | how do i turn off the modules? |
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| [02:08:00] | tmk: | rename them |
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| [02:08:00] | JaPhFleX: | heh, not to be dense, but im a myth n00b, where are they? |
| [02:08:00] | tmk: | mine are located in /usr/local/lib/mythtv/plugins/ |
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| [02:08:00] | tmk: | locate mythdvd.so |
| [02:09:00] | JaPhFleX: | i dont have a /usr/local/lib/mythtv |
| [02:09:00] | JaPhFleX: | lets see where they threw it |
| [02:09:00] | JaPhFleX: | sec |
| [02:09:00] | abarbaccia: | hey, is there any way to add recorded programs from an old box into the myth database |
| [02:09:00] | simon_c_home: | What size disks to people have on their myth setup ? |
| [02:09:00] | abarbaccia: | 160 |
| [02:09:00] | JaPhFleX: | duh, lib64 |
| [02:09:00] | abarbaccia: | wish i had a 300 |
| [02:09:00] | JaPhFleX: | 5x250 |
| [02:09:00] | JaPhFleX: | LVM |
| [02:09:00] | tmk: | i have a 160 i think |
| [02:10:00] | tmk: | it's quiet |
| [02:10:00] | tmk: | :D |
| [02:10:00] | tmk: | maybe it's 200 |
| [02:10:00] | tmk: | who knows :) |
| [02:10:00] | simon_c_home: | abarbaccia: I've seen some instructions on backup/restore ing recordings to a new box, you could probably use those as a basis. |
| [02:10:00] | lotia: | thanks folks. i was being dense. should have realized that it was a kernel arg |
| [02:10:00] | jonK: | I am using an lvm group for mythvideo |
| [02:10:00] | simon_c_home: | abarbaccia: !!! |
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| [02:10:00] | JaPhFleX: | that did it... its pre-scaling |
| [02:10:00] | tmk: | lotia: np |
| [02:10:00] | abarbaccia: | simon_c_home, do you know where from? |
| [02:10:00] | JaPhFleX: | i was wondering how it was gonna set up the DVD DB without a password |
| [02:10:00] | lotia: | what size are the largest sata-300 disks currently? |
| [02:11:00] | JaPhFleX: | tmk: youre a scholar AND a gentleman |
| [02:11:00] | tmk: | heh |
| [02:11:00] | simon_c_home: | It was either on the main site, or the mythtv.info wiki |
| [02:11:00] | jonK: | i have a 300gb and a 320gb drive allocated to myth videos |
| [02:11:00] | simon_c_home: | JaPhFleX: Not worried about a disk going and loosing the lot ? |
| [02:11:00] | jonK: | as well as ~50 gigs from the drive that has everything else |
| [02:11:00] | JaPhFleX: | simon: not really |
| [02:12:00] | JaPhFleX: | its just tv |
| [02:12:00] | jonK: | not really, all those episodes of saved by the bell will repeat eventually |
| [02:12:00] | atomjack: | japhflex:what fs do you use on your lvm? |
| [02:12:00] | simon_c_home: | JaPhFleX: :-) |
| [02:12:00] | jonK: | jfs |
| [02:12:00] | JaPhFleX: | xfs i think i used |
| [02:12:00] | atomjack: | ah |
| [02:12:00] | atomjack: | is it possible to shrink an xfs fs'd lvm to remove one of the drives? |
| [02:12:00] | JaPhFleX: | good question, ive never tried |
| [02:12:00] | briand: | i have a 300g on mine, as well. |
| [02:12:00] | JaPhFleX: | hm, ok |
| [02:12:00] | lotia: | atomjack, i don't believe its currently possible to shrink and xfs filesystem |
| [02:13:00] | atomjack: | yeah |
| [02:13:00] | tmk: | i went with XFS as well |
| [02:13:00] | JaPhFleX: | then the next question is, why is mythdvd crashing, and how do i fix that |
| [02:13:00] | atomjack: | that's waht i read:( |
| [02:13:00] | atomjack: | if i had known, i wouldn't have used xfs |
| [02:13:00] | simon_c_home: | I guess if you wanted to archive stuff, you would export them some way, and play them via myth-video ? |
| [02:13:00] | JaPhFleX: | well, i have two DL burners in here |
| [02:13:00] | atomjack: | i have 5 drives totallying almost 1TB so, basically impossible to remove any of the drives unless i can get rid of most of the data |
| [02:13:00] | jonK: | lvm is the way to go |
| [02:13:00] | jonK: | I added the second big drive in about 10 minutes |
| [02:14:00] | JaPhFleX: | tmk: any thoughts on why mythdvd would segfault? |
| [02:14:00] | atomjack: | yeah lvm rules, i just wish i had used jfs or reiser |
| [02:14:00] | tmk: | JaPhFleX: nope.. is it current? |
| [02:14:00] | tmk: | like did you update mythtv but not mythdvd? |
| [02:14:00] | tmk: | they're separate packages |
| [02:14:00] | JaPhFleX: | using atrpm |
| [02:14:00] | simon_c_home: | it's a shame myth can't just use a pool of disks, and manage the files on them. I'd like it to record initially onto the local disk, and them move the recording onto my NFS back end. |
| [02:15:00] | JaPhFleX: | did a yum install mythtv-suite |
| [02:15:00] | atomjack: | simon:yeah that would be great |
| [02:15:00] | tmk: | can't help you then :) |
| [02:15:00] | JaPhFleX: | arggg |
| [02:16:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | simon_c_home: you can do that by running contrib/myth_archive_job.pl as a User Job when your recordings finish. |
| [02:17:00] | JaPhFleX: | stupid x15e |
| [02:17:00] | abarbaccia: | okay im looking but can't find any way to go and import previously recorded shows back into the myth database |
| [02:17:00] | JaPhFleX: | what good is the touchscreen if they dont ship a linux driver |
| [02:17:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | abarbaccia: contrib/myth.rebuilddatabase.pl |
| [02:18:00] | abarbaccia: | Captain_Murdoch, is that from source? |
| [02:18:00] | CanadaBoy: | anyone here using an xbox as a frontend? |
| [02:18:00] | JaPhFleX: | canada: ive seen one running, it seemed slow |
| [02:18:00] | CanadaBoy: | ya thats what i've heard :-( |
| [02:19:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | abarbaccia: yeah. |
| [02:19:00] | tmk: | you could also use mythvideo, no? and just access them like normal vidoe files? |
| [02:19:00] | CanadaBoy: | i need a good frontend |
| [02:19:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | tmk, yeah |
| [02:20:00] | simon_c_home: | Captain_Murdoch: That archives a recording off as a .mpg, so it moves into myth-video ? |
| [02:20:00] | abarbaccia: | Captain_Murdoch, how does that script work – do i just point it to the recordings directory? |
| [02:20:00] | simon_c_home: | abarbaccia: It was on a section about upgrading to a new box, and a method of importing all your recordings. |
| [02:21:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | simon_c_home: no, it just moves the file to one of several directories that you specify in the script, then links the file back into the recordings directory. If you turn on the "Follow symbolic links when deleting files" backend setting then it will delete the link then the real file when you delete a recording. |
| [02:21:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | abarbaccia: I think so, but not sure. google it and you'll find lots of posts talking about it. |
| [02:21:00] | simon_c_home: | Ahhhh!!. Cool |
| [02:21:00] | lotia: | any idea why picture in picture wouldn't work on my tv but works on the frontend on my powerbook? |
| [02:22:00] | simon_c_home: | Captain_Murdoch: Thank's for that !! |
| [02:23:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | simon_c_home: see this commit log, it describes User Jobs a little if you've never used them. http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-commits/20 . . . /004233.html |
| [02:23:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | actually, here's a better description I gave to someone wanting to do what you're wanting. http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2005-January/030087.html |
| [02:24:00] | kormoc: | http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050929_134152.html <-- new myth box? |
| [02:24:00] | tmk: | lotia: what are you using for tv-out on your computer? |
| [02:24:00] | tmk: | err on your tv |
| [02:24:00] | lotia: | svideo |
| [02:24:00] | Juski: | Canadaboy: I use a Via EPIA M-100000 based board for my frontend – it works really well |
| [02:25:00] | tmk: | what card |
| [02:25:00] | Juski: | kormoc... wow – a computer that looks like a sandwich toaster.. nice! |
| [02:26:00] | lotia: | tmk: i have 2 pvr-500s on my machine and the video card is an nvidia geforce 6600 |
| [02:26:00] | tmk: | so software decoding then |
| [02:26:00] | tmk: | (if it was a pvr350, i'm not sure if they support pip) |
| [02:27:00] | lotia: | tmk yes. |
| [02:27:00] | briand: | tmk: why not? it supports other OSD features |
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| [02:27:00] | kormoc: | Juski, it's small and powerful enough |
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| [02:27:00] | tmk: | briand: it's probably just that no-one's written the code |
| [02:27:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | lotia: are you using Xvmc? |
| [02:27:00] | lotia: | yes |
| [02:27:00] | lotia: | Captain_Murdoch yes |
| [02:27:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | might be why, try turning it off on the box without PIP |
| [02:28:00] | Juski: | I do like the look of the Aopen box though :) |
| [02:28:00] | tmk: | my frontend is just an old home-stereo cd-player that i dremel'd up |
| [02:28:00] | tmk: | :) |
| [02:29:00] | Juski: | hehh.. I've yet to use a dremel in anger on a pc case |
| [02:29:00] | tmk: | hehe |
| [02:29:00] | Beirdo: | I've used a sledgehammer on a PC :) |
| [02:29:00] | tmk: | i bought the cd-player (broken) with the intent of making it into a myth box |
| [02:30:00] | JaPhFleX: | heh, anyone know where fedora hides the kernel-source rpms? rpm install kernel-source* aint workin like it should |
| [02:32:00] | ** Juski wonders if anyone has ever ran Sony Vegas under Wine... ** | |
| [02:32:00] | JaPhFleX: | juski: dont try it |
| [02:32:00] | JaPhFleX: | msde and wine.. ugly |
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| [02:32:00] | kormoc: | no harm in tring it |
| [02:32:00] | kormoc: | could also try rewind and cedega |
| [02:33:00] | lotia: | Captain_Murdoch: I guess if i had to choose between PIP and Xvmc, i'd choose the hardware assist decoding |
| [02:33:00] | Juski: | just a thought... so I suppose I'll have to get myself a dualcore system made by this time next year |
| [02:33:00] | JaPhFleX: | ive tried vegas — no go |
| [02:33:00] | Juski: | need to speed up rendering |
| [02:34:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | lotia: did it work if you switched Xvmc off? |
| [02:34:00] | Juski: | if only Sony would release a network rendering client for Linux... I could team up another 3 machines :D |
| [02:34:00] | lotia: | Captain_Murdoch, haven't checked, but theres newsgroup posts that say so. |
| [02:34:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, thought so. |
| [02:35:00] | JaPhFleX: | juski: rendering in vegas? |
| [02:35:00] | JaPhFleX: | hehe at least you get network rendering |
| [02:35:00] | JaPhFleX: | we use final cut at the office |
| [02:35:00] | JaPhFleX: | one box renders |
| [02:35:00] | JaPhFleX: | thats it |
| [02:36:00] | Juski: | JaPhFleX: yup |
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| [02:36:00] | Juski: | nightmare home movie made by brother & sister inlaw |
| [02:36:00] | Juski: | 5 DV tapes.. 30 mins of watchable material, turned into 1hr 15 mins with slo-mo lol |
| [02:37:00] | Juski: | but now I know what to buy them for Christmas this year... a book on how to shoot video ;) |
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| [02:41:00] | Beirdo: | and/or a tripod? |
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| [02:42:00] | Juski: | heheh |
| [02:43:00] | Juski: | their shots make ER look like it was made with a Steadicam |
| [02:44:00] | Juski: | well i think it's time to leave Vegas to it.. it's time to hit the hay folks |
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| [02:51:00] | khiloa: | my friend wants to know exactly where he can find this checkbox: To enable automatic transcoding, do the following: start the setup program under the host-specific settings: set the Transcoder Auto-run checkbox |
| [02:54:00] | khiloa: | so can anyone tell me exactly where he could find it? |
| [02:55:00] | tmk: | sounds like the backend setup program |
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| [03:01:00] | Arron: | ne1here? |
| [03:01:00] | briand: | yep |
| [03:02:00] | JaPhFleX: | ok, this is just a tad silly |
| [03:02:00] | Arron: | hey! up for lending som help if ya can? |
| [03:02:00] | JaPhFleX: | why is package management making me flip cds |
| [03:02:00] | Arron: | i cant change channels with mythtv on my hauppauge500 tuner, nor get any channel listings |
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| [03:03:00] | briand: | Arron: do you get any error messages? |
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| [03:03:00] | Arron: | it is compiles in, and i can record channel 3 with cat > |
| [03:03:00] | briand: | okay. did you go through all the setup procedures? |
| [03:03:00] | Arron: | briand: no i get nothing. i even signed up for the listing act, still no luck |
| [03:03:00] | JaPhFleX: | arron: do you have it set up for a cable box or something? |
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| [03:04:00] | Arron: | just plain cable comen in, it can see it (1 channel) with sound and all. cant change the channel |
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| [03:04:00] | briand: | how are you trying to change the channel, exactly? |
| [03:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | No channel/program guide info configured ? Wrong tuner type ? |
| [03:05:00] | Arron: | the guide is set up, i installed the frequencies as the setup info, im trying to change the channels in the mythtv frontend |
| [03:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | umm... You manually configured the frequencies ? |
| [03:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or do you mean you just picked the type in the menu where you setup the video source ? |
| [03:07:00] | Arron: | there was a frequency tarball i got, wason one of the how-to's |
| [03:07:00] | Arron: | for north americal cable |
| [03:07:00] | briand: | and, if you're trying to change channels using a keyboard it should work... but if you're trying with a remote, do you have lirc installed/configured? |
| [03:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can't imagine why you would need to do that |
| [03:08:00] | Arron: | was ahhh... one sec ill find it...... it was in one of the how-to's..... there is enouph floating around |
| [03:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Unless it was juts The Video::Frequencies perl module which myth doesn't use |
| [03:09:00] | Arron: | yes, it wasthat xawtv 3.88 provided |
| [03:09:00] | Arron: | or so it says int he readme |
| [03:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | you don't need to do that in Northy america |
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| [03:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's more for people in places that use different or unknown frequencies and they are importing whayt xawtv has auto detected |
| [03:10:00] | Arron: | kool. so is there a good howto someoene can point me to that should be a problem free install? |
| [03:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | and xawtv doesn't work with the pvrxxx cards at all |
| [03:11:00] | Arron: | for in north america witha standard cable inot? |
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| [03:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | When I first installed it I just followed the install info on the mythtv.org docs |
| [03:11:00] | briand: | Arron: did you run mythfilldatabase ? |
| [03:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | But there are many howtos. Mostly distro specific and expecting you to use packages |
| [03:12:00] | Arron: | hrmmmm i found some for debian, anyone know of a good one, as well i wrote up some of my experiences, is anyone acepting some input for a new howto? |
| [03:12:00] | Arron: | or revision |
| [03:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm sure someone out there has a debian guide, they migtht very well be open to revisions :) |
| [03:14:00] | hadees: | is there anyway to make it so a recording will record in hdtv if the hdtv tuner is free and its on a channel with hdtv but if the tuner is busy record on a regular mpeg2 tuner |
| [03:14:00] | Arron: | ome are so confusing, some say to use ptune, some dont, some freq's some dont |
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| [03:17:00] | Arron: | at least i know its not a freq thing, some more stuff to play with. thanks. |
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| [03:21:00] | syle: | anyone running fedora core 4? |
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| [03:22:00] | JaPhFleX: | ok, what gives, is lirc for sending IR or receiving? |
| [03:22:00] | syle: | receiving |
| [03:22:00] | JaPhFleX: | ok |
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| [03:23:00] | JaPhFleX: | so then why cant i find a howto or faq on setting it up with this thing:http://www.pcalchemy.com/product_info.php/pNa . . . ver-for-x15e |
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| [03:24:00] | JaPhFleX: | i dont have a lircd.conf in /etc.. no log in /var/log |
| [03:25:00] | JaPhFleX: | if i run lircd from commandline, it just gives me a new prompt |
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| [03:25:00] | syle: | of course |
| [03:25:00] | syle: | its set to background |
| [03:26:00] | syle: | man lircd |
| [03:26:00] | JaPhFleX: | youre right, its running |
| [03:27:00] | JaPhFleX: | now how do i test it |
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| [03:27:00] | syle: | irrecord myremote |
| [03:28:00] | syle: | that stuff is in the howtos |
| [03:28:00] | JaPhFleX: | ok, could not init hardware |
| [03:28:00] | syle: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [03:28:00] | syle: | maybe you should review that |
| [03:28:00] | JaPhFleX: | thats what im using |
| [03:28:00] | JaPhFleX: | it doesnt tell me how to configure the usb hardware piece tho |
| [03:29:00] | syle: | download lirc |
| [03:29:00] | syle: | untar it |
| [03:29:00] | syle: | run ./setup.sh |
| [03:29:00] | syle: | select your device |
| [03:29:00] | syle: | make install |
| [03:29:00] | JaPhFleX: | so do it from scratch |
| [03:29:00] | JaPhFleX: | ok |
| [03:30:00] | syle: | i use lirc_mceusb2 personally |
| [03:30:00] | JaPhFleX: | ok, thats what i needed to know |
| [03:30:00] | JaPhFleX: | hehe |
| [03:30:00] | syle: | mce remotes are alot better |
| [03:30:00] | JaPhFleX: | thanks |
| [03:30:00] | JaPhFleX: | wait |
| [03:30:00] | JaPhFleX: | thats the remote |
| [03:30:00] | JaPhFleX: | what about the receiver |
| [03:30:00] | syle: | comes with a phillips receiver |
| [03:30:00] | syle: | ehome or whatever |
| [03:31:00] | syle: | just plugs into usb port |
| [03:31:00] | syle: | took me a whole 5 min to install it hehe |
| [03:31:00] | JaPhFleX: | yeah, but how do i make the box detect it is the question |
| [03:31:00] | syle: | it automatically does when module is loaded |
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| [03:31:00] | syle: | if i just plug it into the usb port comes up in /var/log/messages |
| [03:31:00] | JaPhFleX: | which module |
| [03:31:00] | JaPhFleX: | ah |
| [03:32:00] | syle: | lirc_whatever |
| [03:32:00] | syle: | i originally had a serial device |
| [03:32:00] | syle: | gave up on that |
| [03:32:00] | JaPhFleX: | ok, i see |
| [03:33:00] | JaPhFleX: | when i build it, itll build usb support in |
| [03:33:00] | syle: | ordered one of those homemade serial ir receivers online, damn thing didn;t even work lol |
| [03:33:00] | JaPhFleX: | mine plugs right into the mobo usb pins, so its already in |
| [03:33:00] | JaPhFleX: | wonder how long make will take |
| [03:33:00] | syle: | make takes about 20 sec on my computer |
| [03:33:00] | syle: | 3.0 ghz |
| [03:34:00] | JaPhFleX: | hm |
| [03:34:00] | JaPhFleX: | dual amd 3800 |
| [03:34:00] | JaPhFleX: | taking a bit longer than 20sec tho |
| [03:34:00] | syle: | dual kewl |
| [03:34:00] | JaPhFleX: | hehe thx |
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| [03:34:00] | JaPhFleX: | now i need to remember where i found that stupid font fix |
| [03:34:00] | JaPhFleX: | and figure out why mythdvd segfaults on init |
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| [03:35:00] | syle: | if you got a mythmusic fix url let me know |
| [03:36:00] | syle: | mine keeps seg faulting |
| [03:36:00] | JaPhFleX: | no clue |
| [03:36:00] | syle: | fc4 |
| [03:36:00] | syle: | latest cvs build |
| [03:36:00] | JaPhFleX: | yeah same here with dvd |
| [03:36:00] | syle: | i don;t use dvd player, i just rip and view them after in my videos |
| [03:37:00] | JaPhFleX: | ok, do i need to reboot after make install? |
| [03:37:00] | JaPhFleX: | its saying it cant connect to /dev/lirc |
| [03:37:00] | syle: | i'm about 2 weeks behind in blockbuster rips my wife rented i still haven;t watched yet lol |
| [03:37:00] | JaPhFleX: | hehe |
| [03:37:00] | Chutt: | if it "keeps segfaulting", get a backtrace and find out why. |
| [03:38:00] | syle: | where do i find the backtrace |
| [03:38:00] | syle: | i read somewhere about a patch to mythmusic for later fc4 libraries |
| [03:38:00] | syle: | but i would think they would have put that in latest cvs |
| [03:38:00] | Chutt: | there's instructions in the docs. |
| [03:38:00] | Chutt: | first off, there is no cvs anymore. |
| [03:39:00] | Chutt: | secondly, the issue with cd ripping in fc4 is in an external library |
| [03:39:00] | syle: | svn is what i use to access tree |
| [03:39:00] | Chutt: | not mythmusic. |
| [03:39:00] | Chutt: | there's nothing to fix in mythmusic for that issue. |
| [03:39:00] | JaPhFleX: | damnit |
| [03:39:00] | JaPhFleX: | could not open /dev/lirc |
| [03:39:00] | JaPhFleX: | what gives |
| [03:39:00] | syle: | i;m just talking about reading my mp3's |
| [03:40:00] | syle: | i only have about 20 thousand, and it crashes reading some at times |
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| [03:40:00] | JaPhFleX: | hm, is there a way to list all usb devices? |
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| [03:41:00] | syle: | grep -i usb /var/log/messages |
| [03:42:00] | JaPhFleX: | FTDI |
| [03:42:00] | JaPhFleX: | is that it? |
| [03:43:00] | JaPhFleX: | oh wait |
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| [03:43:00] | JaPhFleX: | TIRA-1 IR transceiver |
| [03:43:00] | syle: | do you have right lirc module loaded? |
| [03:43:00] | syle: | lsmod|grep lirc |
| [03:44:00] | JaPhFleX: | lirc_dev |
| [03:44:00] | syle: | thats it? |
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| [03:44:00] | JaPhFleX: | thats all it shows, yeah |
| [03:44:00] | syle: | well you don;t even have an lirc module loaded for your ir thing lol |
| [03:44:00] | JaPhFleX: | i did make install, then lircd & |
| [03:44:00] | JaPhFleX: | what did i miss |
| [03:44:00] | syle: | modprobe lirc_whateveryouhave |
| [03:45:00] | JaPhFleX: | oh, shit |
| [03:45:00] | JaPhFleX: | lirc has a module for this |
| [03:45:00] | JaPhFleX: | but how do i find out which tty it mapped to |
| [03:45:00] | syle: | tty? |
| [03:45:00] | JaPhFleX: | found it |
| [03:45:00] | JaPhFleX: | ttyUSB0 |
| [03:46:00] | syle: | you just setup char major 61 to map your lirc device |
| [03:46:00] | JaPhFleX: | will the modules load on boot now automagically? |
| [03:46:00] | syle: | alias char-major-61 lirc_mceusb2 <- is whats in my modprobe.conf |
| [03:47:00] | syle: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [03:47:00] | syle: | read the section on lirc |
| [03:47:00] | syle: | it don;t matter what distro your using, alot of this shit is distro independant |
| [03:48:00] | syle: | i was thinking of trying MCE this weekend |
| [03:48:00] | JaPhFleX: | hehe |
| [03:48:00] | syle: | but need to make sure i can access movies etc using samba |
| [03:48:00] | JaPhFleX: | it doesnt list the interface type |
| [03:48:00] | JaPhFleX: | is there a list? |
| [03:49:00] | syle: | build your own, you will know what it installed |
| [03:49:00] | syle: | find / -name lirc* |
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| [03:50:00] | JaPhFleX: | not finding anything |
| [03:50:00] | syle: | either way you need to read the lirc docs throughly really well |
| [03:50:00] | JaPhFleX: | that cant be |
| [03:51:00] | syle: | how else are you gonna map keys on your remote restarting mythtv frontend for your wife who bitches if it crashes |
| [03:51:00] | JaPhFleX: | heh, if the howto had info on this, id be all set |
| [03:51:00] | JaPhFleX: | i did read the macro bit, that was funny |
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| [03:52:00] | syle: | right now i have a keyboard for her to alt-ctl-del the xserver on crashes lol |
| [03:52:00] | JaPhFleX: | nice |
| [03:52:00] | JaPhFleX: | ok, now what i need to figure out is what lirc_* its actually building for me |
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| [03:52:00] | syle: | it builds whatever you told it to in setup.sh |
| [03:53:00] | JaPhFleX: | what did it call it is what i mean |
| [03:53:00] | JaPhFleX: | setup built the tira set |
| [03:53:00] | JaPhFleX: | which is fine |
| [03:53:00] | syle: | make install would have showed that |
| [03:53:00] | JaPhFleX: | but its not alias ... lirc_tira |
| [03:53:00] | syle: | check the cp lines |
| [03:53:00] | syle: | so if its lirc_tira |
| [03:53:00] | syle: | modprobe lirc_tira |
| [03:54:00] | syle: | add alias char-major-61 lirc_tira to your modprobe.conf file |
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| [03:55:00] | syle: | or even better |
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| [03:55:00] | syle: | alias char-major-61 lirc_tira |
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| [03:55:00] | syle: | options lirc_tira debug=1 |
| [03:56:00] | JaPhFleX: | right |
| [03:56:00] | JaPhFleX: | but i dont see a cp line in here that makes sense |
| [03:56:00] | syle: | get rid of that options line after your done debugging though , your messages file can get quite large using the remote |
| [03:56:00] | JaPhFleX: | tira doesnt show up |
| [03:56:00] | syle: | did you modprobe it? |
| [03:56:00] | JaPhFleX: | oh, heres what it is |
| [03:57:00] | JaPhFleX: | its lirc_serial |
| [03:57:00] | syle: | rerun setup if your not using serial port |
| [03:57:00] | syle: | select right device |
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| [03:58:00] | JaPhFleX: | its serial |
| [03:58:00] | JaPhFleX: | well, usb mapped to serial |
| [03:58:00] | JaPhFleX: | ttyUSB0 |
| [03:58:00] | syle: | usb is not serial |
| [03:59:00] | syle: | you need to load right module for your device |
| [03:59:00] | syle: | for example this is what i used |
| [03:59:00] | syle: | http://blatter.com/mceusb/INSTALL |
| [03:59:00] | syle: | cept latest patches were in 0.7.2 so i didn;t have to patch |
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| [04:01:00] | JaPhFleX: | ah! port already in use |
| [04:01:00] | JaPhFleX: | brb |
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| [04:06:00] | doublehelix: | GreyFoxx, you around? |
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| [04:07:00] | JaPhFleX: | ok |
| [04:07:00] | JaPhFleX: | so |
| [04:07:00] | JaPhFleX: | rebooted |
| [04:08:00] | JaPhFleX: | lsmod shows nothing |
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| [04:09:00] | JaPhFleX: | lircd starts |
| [04:09:00] | JaPhFleX: | but still nothing |
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| [04:16:00] | Flimzy: | To use a firewire digital tuner, do I need to just add the firewire and video-over-firewire drivers, or are there drivers in the V4L category that need to be added as well? |
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| [04:21:00] | Pengwin: | Any ubuntu users out there? I'm just starting out and wondering if I should install myth from a package or tarball. pros and cons of each? |
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| [04:27:00] | poonj: | hey guys...does the PVR-350 have dual input for cable? |
| [04:27:00] | poonj: | or only the PVR-500? |
| [04:27:00] | hadees: | is there anyway to make it so a recording will record in hdtv if the hdtv tuner is free and its on a channel with hdtv but if the tuner is busy record on a regular mpeg2 tuner |
| [04:27:00] | jams: | the 350 does not have dual input |
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| [04:38:00] | xris: | hadees: um, give higher priority to the hd tuner card? |
| [04:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey xris do you know where cutlists are stored in the database? |
| [04:45:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [04:45:00] | xris: | in the cutlist field in the recorded table |
| [04:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok thanks |
| [04:46:00] | xris: | the flag list, on the other hand... would like to know how that gets converted to cutlist. |
| [04:46:00] | gnuyen: | Hi guys |
| [04:46:00] | gnuyen: | just got a pvr-500 |
| [04:46:00] | gnuyen: | and I can cat /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 to an mpeg file |
| [04:46:00] | gnuyen: | and it will show static |
| [04:47:00] | gnuyen: | but tvtime and myth don't work |
| [04:47:00] | gnuyen: | myth just freezes |
| [04:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does anybody know if there is a way to get mythtv to scan a video and update its filesize? |
| [04:49:00] | gnuyen: | tvtime just says videoinput: card failed to allocate capture buffers: Invalid argument |
| [04:50:00] | tmk: | gnuyen: did you tell myth and tvtime that it was an ivtv device? |
| [04:51:00] | tmk: | sounds like they are treating it like a standard framegrabber device |
| [04:55:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: restart the backend? |
| [04:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, ok |
| [04:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | btw xris nuvexport is pretty cool I am just learning how to use it from what I have seen I am very impressed |
| [04:58:00] | gnuyen: | i don't know how to tell tvtime it's an ivtv device |
| [04:59:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: cool |
| [04:59:00] | xris: | wish I could get it to work properly with dvb recordings. |
| [04:59:00] | gnuyen: | looking |
| [04:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, I am trying to compress the video so I dont have to buy more harddrives :) |
| [05:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then I am slamming the avi's in where the nuv's are renamed.nuv's and seeing how its going |
| [05:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | got to run alias is on :) even though I am recording it hehe |
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| [05:11:00] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: Why don't you use mythtv's internal transcoding abilities? That's _much_ more likely to work |
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| [05:30:00] | KristinG: | may i ask a stupid question? |
| [05:30:00] | Flimzy: | for a dollar |
| [05:31:00] | KristinG: | i only have a dime |
| [05:31:00] | simcop2387: | anyone know how well mythfrontend will work on a sharp zaurus? |
| [05:31:00] | Flimzy: | ha |
| [05:31:00] | Flimzy: | simcop2387: Well... would depend on whether or not it will work at all. Do you have X running on the zaurus? |
| [05:31:00] | simcop2387: | KristinG: i only charge $0.05 |
| [05:31:00] | Flimzy: | Second, what format are you streaming? |
| [05:32:00] | simcop2387: | Flimzy: dunno, i don't have one |
| [05:32:00] | Flimzy: | and is the network connection fast enough? |
| [05:32:00] | Flimzy: | simcop2387: Natively, the Zaurus doesn't run X. |
| [05:32:00] | Flimzy: | Which would put MythTV out of the realm of possibility |
| [05:32:00] | KristinG: | oh ok |
| [05:32:00] | Chutt: | uh |
| [05:32:00] | Flimzy: | It runs a custom GUI interface |
| [05:32:00] | Chutt: | it runs qt/e |
| [05:32:00] | Chutt: | strangely enough, myth is built on top of qt |
| [05:32:00] | Flimzy: | X may be available for the zaurus, however |
| [05:32:00] | KristinG: | i forget my question now |
| [05:32:00] | Chutt: | you don't need X. |
| [05:33:00] | Flimzy: | Chutt: Has it been adapted to run on a zaurus? |
| [05:33:00] | simcop2387: | Chutt: it'd have to be changed to use something other than X11 or XV for video playback though |
| [05:33:00] | Chutt: | no, but there's other reasons why besides the lack of X |
| [05:33:00] | simcop2387: | Flimzy: it'd probably be low bitrate low res MPEG2 in my case |
| [05:33:00] | simcop2387: | Flimzy: over 802.11b |
| [05:33:00] | Flimzy: | simcop2387: I know you can run mplayer on a zaurus... I'd probably stick with that if it were up to me :) |
| [05:34:00] | simcop2387: | Flimzy: i want mythfrontend though, be able to watch live tv and use the guide with the stylus |
| [05:34:00] | Flimzy: | simcop2387: I guess that would be cool. I don't think I'd ever use it, tho, except to show it off to my friends. hehe |
| [05:34:00] | simcop2387: | i'd use it around campus between classes |
| [05:35:00] | simcop2387: | and to show off |
| [05:35:00] | Flimzy: | hehe |
| [05:35:00] | Flimzy: | now the truth comes out :P |
| [05:36:00] | simcop2387: | recordings'd have to be run through mtd before playing though, since it'd have to be slower bitrates and lower res |
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| [05:36:00] | simcop2387: | but i could easily setup a live tv profile for the zaurus, it'd be sweet! |
| [05:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | You likely wouldn't be using the stylus with it however |
| [05:38:00] | simcop2387: | why not? |
| [05:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | since myth doesn't use a mouse for any of that, and a stylus is in effect a mouse pointer |
| [05:38:00] | simcop2387: | GreyFoxx: i've managed to select things before with the mouse |
| [05:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe in an edit box |
| [05:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or a setup menu dropdown |
| [05:38:00] | simcop2387: | i'd alter myth to use it |
| [05:39:00] | simcop2387: | and submit the changes back with an option to turn it on |
| [05:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | you COULD use mythweb for the epg though and the stylus with that |
| [05:39:00] | DarkBeer: | still trying to fix an issue using mythmusic and would appreciate any suggestions. fixed part of the problem by upgrading libcdaudio, so mythmusic doesn't crash the frontend when I select import cd. now when I select import cd, it gives me the name of the disc and tracks, then I click on import, and it opens the cdrom again and goes back to the menu. error log shows "Error opening output file". /var/lib/mythmusic is owne |
| [05:39:00] | DarkBeer: | d by root. should it be owned by mythtv instead? |
| [05:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | simcop2387: Have fun :) I'm sure there will be people out there who might use it |
| [05:39:00] | simcop2387: | GreyFoxx: well the changes would also be useful for people who run it on their desktop (like me) as it is |
| [05:40:00] | simcop2387: | though i've got a remote also |
| [05:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use the keyboard when I run it in a desktop window |
| [05:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | but if you wanna put the work in, go for it |
| [05:40:00] | simcop2387: | some people may prefer the mouse |
| [05:41:00] | simcop2387: | i will when i get my dream zaurus |
| [05:42:00] | simcop2387: | having a portable tv like that would be neat though |
| [05:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [05:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Personally I wouldn't mind a oqo. Might not need to lower the bitrate either |
| [05:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | unless wirless isn't enough for it |
| [05:43:00] | DarkBeer: | nm, answered my own question...chown'd to mythtv and it works :) |
| [05:45:00] | simcop2387: | oqo? |
| [05:45:00] | simcop2387: | ah that thing |
| [05:45:00] | simcop2387: | i'd rather have linux since i know it alot better than i know windows now, and i'd be able to play with more things on it, i'd love a more powerful zaurus though |
| [05:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | simp: If I had an oqo I wouldn't be using mythfrontend :) |
| [05:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | But it would be interesting to put linux on it |
| [05:47:00] | simcop2387: | what would you use? |
| [05:48:00] | doublehelix: | GreyFoxx, i just wanted to tell you thank for steering me towards a driver problem last night.. i got my problem fixed.. it was the driver |
| [05:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | a file share and a media player. zoomplayer, wmp, mplayer, etc etc |
| [05:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | doublehelix: Cool :) |
| [05:48:00] | doublehelix: | GreyFoxx, i thought i was using nvidia's binary driver.. i checked glxgears and was only getting about 200 fps.. then i knew i wasnt using the driver.. went back and installed the next oldest.. works like a charm |
| [05:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Heh |
| [05:49:00] | doublehelix: | GreyFoxx, hey.. dont knock 1400fps ;) |
| [05:49:00] | simcop2387: | doublehelix: i get 2200 |
| [05:49:00] | Flimzy: | 2200fps on what? |
| [05:49:00] | simcop2387: | glxgears |
| [05:49:00] | doublehelix: | simcop2387, 5200 here |
| [05:49:00] | Chutt: | i get 60. |
| [05:49:00] | Flimzy: | the screen saver thingie? |
| [05:50:00] | Chutt: | which actually means something, unlike the other numbers :p |
| [05:50:00] | doublehelix: | Flimzy, its like a test program.. run glxgears from the cli |
| [05:50:00] | simcop2387: | doublehelix: geforce 5200 or 5200fps? |
| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chutt: hehe |
| [05:50:00] | doublehelix: | simcop2387, sorry.. geforce 5200 |
| [05:50:00] | simcop2387: | ah |
| [05:50:00] | simcop2387: | i was gonna say, how'd you do that! |
| [05:50:00] | doublehelix: | simcop2387, 5200 gets me ~1400 fps |
| [05:50:00] | doublehelix: | simcop2387, mad overclockin |
| [05:50:00] | Flimzy: | well... 92 on my Matrox card... which shows a blank box, thanks to lack of DRI suport, I presume |
| [05:51:00] | doublehelix: | simcop2387, 5200fps runs at a ~~cool~~ 550 degrees |
| [05:51:00] | simcop2387: | i'm trying to figure out which i've got, i don't remember now |
| [05:51:00] | Flimzy: | and 70fps on my S3 ProSavage 4 |
| [05:51:00] | doublehelix: | Flimzy, i was getting 150 using the generic nvidia driver.. went back and installed the binary to get 1400.. which is a side issue because that was my problem for myth all along |
| [05:51:00] | doublehelix: | Flimzy, GreyFoxx thanks to greyfoxx |
| [05:52:00] | Flimzy: | doublehelix: When I have my myth box booting again, I'll try it there |
| [05:52:00] | Flimzy: | GF4 |
| [05:52:00] | Flimzy: | s/booting/running X again/ |
| [05:52:00] | Flimzy: | right now I'm suffering the typical nvidia breakage after kernel upgrade |
| [05:52:00] | Flimzy: | since I had to recompile to add IEEE1394 support for my new DVR |
| [05:52:00] | doublehelix: | Flimzy, its actually just a side issue.. my point was when i ran glxgears and got such a low number i knew the driver wasnt working.. thats what grey was saying.. hence im coming back just to say thanks.. but anyway |
| [05:52:00] | Flimzy: | doublehelix: I understand :) |
| [05:53:00] | simcop2387: | ah i've got a 5700FE |
| [05:53:00] | doublehelix: | Flimzy, i actually dl'd the last 4 binary drivers from nvidia.. 7676 didnt work for me.. but the enxt one did |
| [05:53:00] | doublehelix: | now ive got a frontend workign on a tv, connecting to a remote backend and all is peachy.. |
| [05:54:00] | doublehelix: | except for lirc.. but.. dammit im taking a day off |
| [05:54:00] | Flimzy: | I've never gotten lirc to work |
| [05:54:00] | Flimzy: | I think the IRman I got is defective |
| [05:54:00] | doublehelix: | im on the virge.. irw outputs the right keys so i know im jsut a few headaches away |
| [05:54:00] | doublehelix: | verge |
| [05:55:00] | doublehelix: | im outta here for now.. thanks again grey.. ill try and come back and contribute once this thing is up and running "for good" |
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| [06:02:00] | kylector: | anyone else trying to control a Dish Network 351 receiver with lirc? |
| [06:05:00] | chuggachu: | is there an easy fix for black and white viewing and recording with a 150? |
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| [06:07:00] | simcop2387: | chuggachu: black and white viewing? |
| [06:07:00] | simcop2387: | is it recording like that? |
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| [06:09:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | that could be a tuner type problem |
| [06:09:00] | Krazylegz: | That's what it was for me on a PVR-350. |
| [06:11:00] | chuggachu: | simcop2387: yeah .. the recorded stuff and "watch TV" is black and white .. a very clear black and white mind you |
| [06:11:00] | simcop2387: | sounds like a tuner error, what kind of 150 is it? |
| [06:12:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | verify that your module configuration has the right tuner type set for your video standard. |
| [06:12:00] | chuggachu: | wintv-pvr-150 ? |
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| [06:16:00] | simcop2387: | chuggachu: think you can get the dmesg output from ivtv about your card? |
| [06:16:00] | simcop2387: | use a pastbin for it |
| [06:17:00] | chuggachu: | simcop2387: im looking at it now .. 1 sec |
| [06:19:00] | chuggachu: | simcop2387: http://pastebin.com/378430 |
| [06:21:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | so tuner type 50 |
| [06:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey xris I restart mythbackend and it did not update the size of the video correctly :/ |
| [06:22:00] | simcop2387: | ip_goat_rodeo: what makes me wonder more is that it doesn't seem that the cx* drivers are loading properly at all |
| [06:22:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | those are for different cards |
| [06:23:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | cx88 is a different driver I believe |
| [06:23:00] | simcop2387: | ah whoops i read that wrong :) |
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| [06:23:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | cx88 is for software-encoder boards using a different conextant chipset |
| [06:24:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | and it looks like the module is out of sync with the kernel version to boot |
| [06:25:00] | simcop2387: | yea, it also might be that tuner is incorrectly detecting your tuner |
| [06:25:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: no clue |
| [06:27:00] | syle: | hmm strange |
| [06:27:00] | syle: | is mplayer from atrpm have lirc support? |
| [06:28:00] | chuggachu: | ip_goat_rodeo: that could be it .. i have kernel 2.6.12–1.1456_FC4 and the ivtv stuff is ivtv-kmdl-2.6.12–1.1447_FC4–0.3.8–97.rhfc4.at AND ivtv-kmdl-2.6.12–1.1456_FC4–0.3.8–97.rhfc4.at |
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| [06:34:00] | SqWaw: | .O. .M. .F. .G. |
| [06:34:00] | SqWaw: | i love mythtv. |
| [06:34:00] | SqWaw: | :( i just want my remote to work. |
| [06:35:00] | syle: | just get a mce remote |
| [06:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, ok |
| [06:37:00] | SqWaw: | syle, i have a urc remote |
| [06:37:00] | SqWaw: | syle, this remote http://www.ofausa.com/remote.php?type=URC%208810 |
| [06:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dang it.... |
| [06:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | there has got to be a way to have mythtv refresh its info about the program file size :/ |
| [06:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | rerun mythcommflag to rebuild the seek table? With that update the filesize as well ? |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know |
| [06:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then find out |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I tried running mythcommflag but it did not scan that one |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is there a way to force it to rerun on a recording? |
| [06:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythcommflag --rebuild filename |
| [06:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | errr |
| [06:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythcommflag --rebuild -f filename |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I deleted the last program beacuse it was a bad compression |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but I will check when this one is done |
| [06:41:00] | syle: | ok that is fucked |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the compression is getting alot better I am getting excited if I can make this work |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | syle, eh? |
| [06:41:00] | syle: | .mythtv/lircrc and .lircrc for mplayer |
| [06:42:00] | syle: | in /home/mythtv |
| [06:42:00] | Flimzy: | GRRR... I freaking hate mysql! |
| [06:42:00] | syle: | why |
| [06:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | syle, ahh yeah its kinda a pain |
| [06:42:00] | syle: | is there a special place for xine to lol |
| [06:42:00] | Flimzy: | why do I hate mysql? |
| [06:43:00] | syle: | yeah |
| [06:43:00] | Flimzy: | because it's a pain in the ass to use |
| [06:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Bullshit |
| [06:43:00] | syle: | i was actually thinking of upgrading to 5.0 today to use trigger support |
| [06:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Oracle is a pain to use |
| [06:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | MySQL is a dream in comparison |
| [06:44:00] | syle: | oracle isn;t a comparison |
| [06:44:00] | Flimzy: | The specific reason I hate it today is that after running a dist-upgrade, it broke mythtv |
| [06:44:00] | syle: | postgres vs mysql is a comparison |
| [06:44:00] | Flimzy: | GreyFoxx: Yeah, well postgres is a dream compared to mysql |
| [06:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | syle: True enough |
| [06:44:00] | Flimzy: | I wish mysql supported both so I could choose the one I prefer |
| [06:44:00] | Flimzy: | or I'd also be happy if mysql didn't break every time you look at it |
| [06:45:00] | syle: | i;ve never had a problem with mysql |
| [06:45:00] | Flimzy: | anyway, I don't have time to mess with mysql any more tonight |
| [06:45:00] | syle: | whats your problem/ |
| [06:45:00] | Flimzy: | syle: I've never _not_ had problems with mysql |
| [06:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Flimzy: Some people have done bits and pieces to support postgres, But I've not seen anything in along time |
| [06:45:00] | Flimzy: | postgres, OTOH... I've never had problems |
| [06:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been using MySQL daily, along side oracle , for 6 years with no problems |
| [06:45:00] | syle: | are you always using the same machine and having problems hehe |
| [06:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | On hundreds of machines |
| [06:45:00] | Flimzy: | GreyFoxx: Yeah, they went so far as to put a drop-down box to select what database you're using in mythtv-setup... Of course, mysql is still the only one listed there :) |
| [06:45:00] | syle: | i been using them for about 10+ years they are great |
| [06:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have never had issues with mysql unless I have powerfailure and the computer dumps |
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| [06:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Flimzy: Hehe Lots of people jump up and offer to code the patch ... but little ever comes from it and they disappear |
| [06:46:00] | Flimzy: | GreyFoxx: And Microsoft has used Windows on "thousands of machines" "without any problems".... yadda yadda yadda... we all know that YMMV |
| [06:46:00] | syle: | happens slicer |
| [06:47:00] | Flimzy: | I've installed mysql probably a dozen times in the last 5 years, for various projects |
| [06:47:00] | syle: | then just use recover feature |
| [06:47:00] | Flimzy: | and Postgres maybe half a dozen times |
| [06:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy, I am trying not to laugh with the "without problems" and windows mixed |
| [06:47:00] | Flimzy: | I've *never* had the probs with postgres that I do with mysql |
| [06:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | Flimzy: My point is the same as if it was a user having trouble with a webpage. MAYBE if you consistantly have problems it might be something you are doing |
| [06:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx, PEBKAC!!! |
| [06:47:00] | syle: | try myisamchk -r -O key_buffer=128M -O sort_buffer=128M -O read_buffer=2M -O write_buffer=2M /usr/local/mysql/data/*/*.MYI |
| [06:47:00] | syle: | see if that helps you |
| [06:47:00] | Flimzy: | GreyFoxx: Yeah, the thing I keep doing is installing applications that depend on mysql :P |
| [06:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | pffft |
| [06:48:00] | Flimzy: | Anyway... my only real point is taht I hate mysql |
| [06:48:00] | Flimzy: | and I wish it would go away |
| [06:48:00] | Flimzy: | but I know it won't |
| [06:48:00] | Flimzy: | so I'll deal with it |
| [06:48:00] | Flimzy: | but not tonight |
| [06:48:00] | syle: | get some sleep, tommorrow learn how to debug things to make life easier |
| [06:49:00] | Flimzy: | I know how to debug things, thanks. |
| [06:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | syle, :) when you are frustrated to hell youc ant sleep haha |
| [06:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | least I cnat |
| [06:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and I cant type eitehr! |
| [06:49:00] | syle: | if you knew how to debug you wouldn;t have any problems lol |
| [06:49:00] | Flimzy: | syle: Bullshit |
| [06:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy, bullshit |
| [06:49:00] | Flimzy: | knowing how to solve a problem does not make problems not occur |
| [06:49:00] | syle: | of course it does |
| [06:49:00] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: eh? |
| [06:50:00] | Flimzy: | syle: You're silly |
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| [06:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well Flimzy I have never heard of anybody here having issues with mysql and myth... if they did its always been fixable with minimal trouble so me thinks its a PEBKAC |
| [06:50:00] | Flimzy: | If problems never occured, then DEbugging would never hapen |
| [06:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Flimzy: It does if the problem was brought about by something you do without realizing or through some lack of understanding. |
| [06:50:00] | syle: | i;m not going to argue with you flimsy , your obviously new to linux and programming in general |
| [06:50:00] | syle: | have a good nite |
| [06:50:00] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: I've seen several ppl on here have trouble with mysql and mythv. I guess you don't pay close attention. |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy, I never said that people dont have trouble but its always fixable |
| [06:51:00] | Flimzy: | GreyFoxx: What brought this problem on is most likely a buggy installation script put there on the part of an unofficial Debian package mantainer. |
| [06:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | The biggest problem people have with mysql is not knowing how to use it. And that includes basic install/authentication |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but being bullheaded bitching and complaining and not trying to resolve the problem helps noone and just pisses people off |
| [06:51:00] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: I never claimed anyone's problem, my own included, was not fixable. |
| [06:51:00] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: Nobody here is being bullheaded. |
| [06:52:00] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: Well, unless you want to say you are... |
| [06:52:00] | Flimzy: | GreyFoxx: Maybe it would be a fair, then, to say that mysql requires an unecissarily steeper learning curve than postgres |
| [06:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy, mysql is very easy perhaps find a howto with myth+mysql and do it the way it says and have it work without issues? |
| [06:53:00] | Flimzy: | GreyFoxx: B/c, as I've said, I've used both... and never had the types of problems with psql that I have with mysql. |
| [06:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy, what the hell is the problem with mysql? |
| [06:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or are you just going to say you keep having problems? |
| [06:53:00] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: I appreciate the suggestion. I really don't think that's going to resolve my issue, though... I had a working myth install until about an hour ago. |
| [06:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's the thing about using packages. People have some feeling of trust with them, but all you are doing is hoping that the guy who compiled it A: Knew what they were doing, B: compiled in the options you want, and C: didn't make it dependant on other packages even though it's not really "dependant", they just happen to be what they have on their box |
| [06:53:00] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: So I don't need a "from square one" type of HOWTO |
| [06:54:00] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: I'll just hafta figure out what the deb maintainer broke, and fix it. Which I'll do tomorrow. |
| [06:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what happend then Flimzy or what is the problem? |
| [06:54:00] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: The myth-database post-inst script cannot authenticate with mysql |
| [06:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy, post the error to rafb.net/paste please |
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| [06:55:00] | dcstimm: | hey guys |
| [06:55:00] | Krazylegz: | GreyFoxx: You sound like you're pushing Gentoo's idea of "packages".... |
| [06:55:00] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: Not tonight. If you're here tomorrow, and I can't figure it out on my own, I will. |
| [06:55:00] | Flimzy: | GreyFoxx: No... that's the thing about unofficial packages. |
| [06:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Krazylegz: Nope. not that either |
| [06:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Krazylegz: BUT I do believe there is value in compiling it yourself |
| [06:55:00] | Krazylegz: | GreyFoxx: Then you only like compiling manually from source? |
| [06:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Krazylegz: Correct |
| [06:56:00] | Flimzy: | GreyFoxx: These types of problems are rare in Debian official packages. Exceedingly rare. |
| [06:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Flimzy, then simmer down stop bitching saying you have problems and let it go till you are willing to let somebody help you... I dont want to hear trolling of how much mysql sucks and the rest |
| [06:56:00] | r2: | dcstimm: what's the question? |
| [06:56:00] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: calm down, dude. All I said was I don't like mysql. You're the one pestering me to elaborate. |
| [06:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, the reason I like gentoo with myth is the ivtv drivers are really easy to use |
| [06:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well Flimzy you go on and on and on and on about it scroll back and look then when somebody offers to help you say ohh I am too tired but your not too tired to bitch what the hell man? |
| [06:57:00] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: You scroll back... you'll see that I never asked anyone for help... so don't get upset that I'm not accepting it right now. |
| [06:59:00] | chuggachu: | weirdness here .. I just switched over to tuner0 it was in color. I switched back to s-video and it now has color. |
| [06:59:00] | Krazylegz: | SlicerDicer: I use Gentoo as well. |
| [06:59:00] | Krazylegz: | I like Portage. |
| [06:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | you know its not even worth my time Flimzy keep your broken mysql kkthxbye |
| [06:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, aye :) |
| [06:59:00] | Flimzy: | SlicerDicer: Uh.. yeah, sure. |
| [06:59:00] | Flimzy: | am I supposed to be upset now that you're not going to help me with something I didn't want help with? |
| [06:59:00] | ** Flimzy scratches his head ** | |
| [07:00:00] | Krazylegz: | Fite! |
| [07:00:00] | ** DarkBeer pops some popcorn ** | |
| [07:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, I ended it already :) |
| [07:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am not going to feed the trolls *grin* |
| [07:02:00] | chuggachu: | anyway . thanks simcop2387 and ip_goat_rodeo .. just waiting for an IR blaster and I will be happy |
| [07:02:00] | r2: | (at the risk of jumping up in the middle of the not-quite-fight here ...) I have a basic mythtv question ... |
| [07:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Pffft. I'm a troll. I'm 4'3", stout and live under a bridge. |
| [07:02:00] | syle: | stout? |
| [07:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, well do you drool? |
| [07:02:00] | Krazylegz: | I envision trolls as being stout. |
| [07:02:00] | syle: | SDOUT SDIN |
| [07:03:00] | Flimzy: | The trolls in Baldur's gate are rather tall and thin |
| [07:03:00] | syle: | sdtout stdin |
| [07:03:00] | Flimzy: | The troll in LoTR is quite tall, but perportionally perhaps stout |
| [07:03:00] | r2: | I figured out (by reading the length HOWTO) how to start recording something realtime, but I could never figure out how to *stop* the recording. I'm looking for something analogous to the VCR's "STOP" button. What have I missed? |
| [07:04:00] | Krazylegz: | I still haven't seen all three LoTR movies, let alone read the books. |
| [07:04:00] | syle: | i need to stack trace a segfault in mythmusic |
| [07:04:00] | Krazylegz: | I also have not played Baldur's Gate. |
| [07:04:00] | syle: | anyone know where i look |
| [07:04:00] | Flimzy: | The troll was in the first one, IIRC |
| [07:04:00] | Flimzy: | I haven't read the books, either. |
| [07:04:00] | Flimzy: | the only troll I remember from the movies was the "cave troll" that they battled in the mines |
| [07:05:00] | Krazylegz: | Were any of them residing under bridges? |
| [07:05:00] | Flimzy: | Not directly. |
| [07:05:00] | Flimzy: | Altho the cave troll in LoTR was underground... there may have been a bridge somewhere on the surface |
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| [07:06:00] | Krazylegz: | MW says a troll can be a dwarf or a giant, and inhabits caves or hills. No bridges mentioned. |
| [07:06:00] | Flimzy: | MW? |
| [07:06:00] | PurePain: | hey guy i got a quick q with mythTV work on freeBSD ? |
| [07:07:00] | Flimzy: | PurePain: Nobody can answer it until it's asked. |
| [07:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, thats cause the bridge dwelling trolls eat the victims and nobody returns to tell about it |
| [07:07:00] | PurePain: | i just asked :| |
| [07:07:00] | Flimzy: | PurePain: I'm sorry, I didn't see a question. |
| [07:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Merriam-Webster. |
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| [07:08:00] | Flimzy: | Krazylegz, Oh, I shoulda figured that out |
| [07:08:00] | r2: | PurePain: are you asking if mythtv will compile and work on FreeBSD? |
| [07:08:00] | Krazylegz: | PurePain: GreyFoxx has done it. |
| [07:08:00] | PurePain: | yes r2 |
| [07:08:00] | PurePain: | ok |
| [07:08:00] | PurePain: | thanks |
| [07:08:00] | Krazylegz: | Don't ask him about it though. He may smite you. |
| [07:09:00] | PurePain: | lol |
| [07:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | shit there be smite'n about |
| [07:09:00] | PurePain: | im guessing its not as easy as a linux install then |
| [07:09:00] | Krazylegz: | Then, we would have us a good ol' smiting. |
| [07:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or at least its possible |
| [07:09:00] | Krazylegz: | PurePain: Heh, no. |
| [07:09:00] | ** SlicerDicer- flees ** | |
| [07:09:00] | PurePain: | buh |
| [07:09:00] | PurePain: | just used my last blank on bsd >.< |
| [07:09:00] | Krazylegz: | Why does everyone use 'buh'? |
| [07:09:00] | PurePain: | nfi |
| [07:10:00] | r2: | Q: (basic mythtv question) how do I "start" and "stop" recording a video feed while I'm watching it? |
| [07:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, 'buh': http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=buh . |
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| [07:11:00] | Krazylegz: | r2: Press the record button? |
| [07:11:00] | PurePain: | female genitalia |
| [07:11:00] | PurePain: | :| |
| [07:11:00] | r2: | Krazylegz: I haven't set up the remote yet, so I'm working with a keyboard (not ideal, granted). The "R" is supposed to "toggle" the record state, but it only starts it and doesn't allow me to stop it real-time. |
| [07:12:00] | PurePain: | anyway |
| [07:12:00] | PurePain: | ta guys |
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| [07:13:00] | r2: | Krazylegz: in your setup, does hitting your record button (I'm assuming that that's sending "R" or something akin to it) again stop the recording? |
| [07:14:00] | Chutt: | mythtv isn't a vcr. |
| [07:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes.....I think. |
| [07:15:00] | r2: | Chutt: I understand ... that's why I'm asking, so I can make the "paradigm shift" to the new way of doing business. |
| [07:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Why would I ever want to stop recording? :-) |
| [07:15:00] | Chutt: | you wouldn't be asking if you understood :p |
| [07:15:00] | r2: | Krazylegz: geez, I only have 140GB free, can't recording _everything_ ... |
| [07:15:00] | Chutt: | you're treating it like a vcr |
| [07:15:00] | Chutt: | it's not one. |
| [07:16:00] | r2: | Chutt: good point ... okay, so is there no way that I can start recording right ... now ... and the stop recording right ... now? |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | there is, but it's not recommended to do that |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | since it's not a vcr. |
| [07:16:00] | r2: | Chutt: got it, it's not a vcr |
| [07:17:00] | r2: | Chutt: I understand that the basic "atom" of recording is a show. However, when I'm transferring things from my VCR (trying to make it completely obsolete by transferring everything), (1) it isn't tied to what mythtv thinks it is recording, and (2) it most definitely won't be tied to normal start/stop times associated with shows. |
| [07:17:00] | Krazylegz: | Looks like you have to go to that recording and tell it to stop recording. You can't do it while you're watching it. |
| [07:18:00] | r2: | Krazylegz: so what you're saying is that I was correct. I was afraid that was it. Oh well, it's not something I'll be doing a lot, hopefully. |
| [07:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Unless Chutt (or someone else) can tell me that I'm wrong. |
| [07:19:00] | Chutt: | you're not wrong :p |
| [07:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Sweet. |
| [07:19:00] | r2: | Krazylegz: the next problem is that I didn't have the transcode daemon running when I asked mythtv to transcode it (after selecting exactly how much of it I wanted clipped). It failed but now will not attempt it again. Any thoughts, other than trying over? |
| [07:20:00] | Krazylegz: | Tell it to stop transcoding, and when that "takes", then tell it to begin transcoding again. |
| [07:20:00] | r2: | Krazylegz, Chutt: at least that means I'm not mis-reading the HOWTO ... at least not on that portion |
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| [07:20:00] | r2: | Krazylegz: hmm ... definitely don't recall anywhere seeing "stop transcoding" ... is that in the same menu that says to stop recording? |
| [07:22:00] | Krazylegz: | Sort of. Try finding it here: Media Library->Watch Recordings->show->menu->Job Options. |
| [07:23:00] | r2: | Krazylegz: thanks, I'll look again. |
| [07:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | r2, if your concerned about space rip everything to DVD's |
| [07:25:00] | r2: | SlicerDicer: I was simply trying to encode 3 minutes of the news so I could send it to somebody at work ... though I'm not initially concerned about the space 3 minutes would take up, it took me considerably longer to figure out how to stop, which gave me a 24 minute recording. Since the transcoding wasn't set up correctly yet, I haven't been able to chop it down yet. |
| [07:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | avidemux will do it if your not concerned about keeping it in myth |
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| [07:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just grab the nuv and do it :) |
| [07:26:00] | r2: | SlicerDicer: yeah, I was planning on going that route next, I just hadn't installed it yet. |
| [07:26:00] | Krazylegz: | You could do a cutlist and then transcode. |
| [07:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, yep |
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| [07:27:00] | Krazylegz: | Frankly, when I set a recording to transcode, it doesn't unless I had a cutlist setup, I think. |
| [07:27:00] | Krazylegz: | I haven't tracked down the problem yet. |
| [07:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am learning nuvexport :) |
| [07:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | seems to be alot more featured than mythtranscode |
| [07:28:00] | Krazylegz: | I do love being able to do everything from my remote. Whoever designed MythTV is a genius. |
| [07:29:00] | ** Krazylegz winks at Chutt ** | |
| [07:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [07:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well the only problem I have with the builtin mythtranscode is the fact that I cannot do doublepass encoding and those type of options |
| [07:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that would absolutely rock |
| [07:30:00] | r2: | SlicerDicer: just so I understand ... the transcode process is rather binary ... you set up the options in the Setup page, and then either you transcode something or you don't, you are never given the option to transcode this way or transcode another way ... is that correct? |
| [07:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I mean you can chose some options but it seems rather limited in myth to me the builtin ones that is |
| [07:32:00] | Krazylegz: | r2: You can setup your transcoding profile. |
| [07:32:00] | r2: | SlicerDicer: yeah, that's what I saw as well |
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| [07:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, is there anyway to chose any other encoding options other than using mpeg4? |
| [07:33:00] | r2: | Krazylegz: yes, but you don't have multiple transcode profiles, so that you could choose "transcode A" and have it made into a 320x240 mini-movie or "transocde B" and end up with a full-size clipped version. |
| [07:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, or do doublepass encoding :) |
| [07:34:00] | r2: | SlicerDicer: isn't the mpeg4-thing based on the original encoding? I thought I was locked into mpeg2 because of my pvr-500 card, not because of a transcoding option |
| [07:34:00] | cosmo_: | can you set those profiles in the scheduler and have it autotranscode immediately after recording? |
| [07:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | r2, it seems to force me to use mpeg4 from mpeg2 :/ |
| [07:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo-, AFAIK yes |
| [07:34:00] | r2: | SlicerDicer: ahh ... haven't played with it enough yet, I guess |
| [07:35:00] | ** r2 is still learning ... ** | |
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| [07:36:00] | Krazylegz: | cosmo_: Yes, you can autotranscode after recording. |
| [07:36:00] | Krazylegz: | It's in recording jobs or something. |
| [07:41:00] | Krazylegz: | cosmo_: No, it's in recording profiles. |
| [07:46:00] | syle: | well took me an hour |
| [07:46:00] | syle: | but i made my own lircrc for new mce remotes |
| [07:46:00] | syle: | anyone want it let me know |
| [07:46:00] | ** xris pulls out a can o' whoopass on the torrentocracy thread on the mailing list. ** | |
| [07:47:00] | Krazylegz: | MythGlobe! |
| [07:48:00] | Krazylegz: | It would let you plan your vacation from your television. We could make Orbitz.com pay for it. |
| [07:48:00] | xris: | heh |
| [07:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Myth-maps.google.com! |
| [07:49:00] | xris: | I'm still waiting for the movie tickets purchasing bit. |
| [07:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, from that company with the thing and the other thing and the themes? |
| [07:49:00] | Krazylegz: | LxM. |
| [07:49:00] | xris: | someone needs to hook google maps up to geo::ip so you can click on someone's name in irc and see where they are |
| [07:49:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: yup. |
| [07:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Someone hasn't done that yet? |
| [07:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Sheesh. |
| [07:50:00] | xris: | they may have from within myth. |
| [07:50:00] | xris: | but it's a really simple frontend.. no movie posters, etc. |
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| [07:50:00] | xris: | they can't get the rights or something. |
| [07:50:00] | Krazylegz: | LxM, you mean. |
| [07:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [07:50:00] | xris: | anyway, the purchasing stuff (I think) links through mythbrowser to fandango and/or movietickets.com |
| [07:50:00] | syle: | whats the point |
| [07:50:00] | syle: | can you really tell what ip i;m from |
| [07:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey does anybody know if mythvideo is able to stream movies across the network without NFS? |
| [07:51:00] | xris: | syle: beats me. I don't know anything about irc |
| [07:51:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: no |
| [07:52:00] | xris: | all of that stuff happens within the frontend itself |
| [07:52:00] | Krazylegz: | SlicerDicer-: I think I was going to setup FUSE for that. |
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| [07:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok |
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| [08:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Is there any decent way to zoom in/out in MythBrowser from my remote? |
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| [08:04:00] | Krazylegz: | I don't even know if it's MythBrowser. I'm looking at a news feed for Penny Arcade. |
| [08:05:00] | Skaface: | i changed the font size on mine |
| [08:05:00] | Skaface: | to make it bigger all the time |
| [08:06:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm only looking at an image. |
| [08:09:00] | Chutt: | xris, nice email :p |
| [08:10:00] | xris: | just pisses me off sometimes. |
| [08:11:00] | xris: | granted, I'm a total hypocrite about stuff like that (though I don't use that particular plugin) |
| [08:12:00] | Chutt: | i mainly don't want to support unsupported plugins |
| [08:12:00] | Krazylegz: | There's no MUG in my area. :-( |
| [08:13:00] | Chutt: | that's ok, there's not one in my area either :p |
| [08:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha! |
| [08:13:00] | Krazylegz: | How ironic. |
| [08:13:00] | Krazylegz: | I guess I would have to drive to DC. |
| [08:16:00] | Krazylegz: | Chutt: Where are you anyway? |
| [08:16:00] | Chutt: | near cleveland |
| [08:16:00] | Krazylegz: | There is a MUG in Chicago. |
| [08:16:00] | Krazylegz: | Er, Dayton. |
| [08:17:00] | Chutt: | none of em close :p |
| [08:17:00] | Krazylegz: | PHP used to have cruises. There could be a MythTV cruise! |
| [08:17:00] | Krazylegz: | Along with a plugin....MythCruise!!! |
| [08:17:00] | Krazylegz: | Ta-da. :-) |
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| [08:21:00] | xris: | I tried to have a MUG meetup in seattle, but only kormoc and I showed up |
| [08:22:00] | xris: | and we carpooled |
| [08:22:00] | xris: | (was still a great concert) |
| [08:22:00] | kormoc: | hehe, it was quite grand indeed |
| [08:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc! |
| [08:23:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer! |
| [08:24:00] | Krazylegz: | kormoc! |
| [08:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am doing my second encoding test :) I think I figured out what the problem was |
| [08:24:00] | Cardoe: | I hope I'm not going to have to insistute a 4ft rule between you two while I'm around... Like I had to do with my roommate and her boyfriend. |
| [08:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I was encoding at the wrong resolution and it was streching the video |
| [08:24:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz! |
| [08:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, hello |
| [08:25:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, ah, I see |
| [08:25:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, nah, no worries bout that :P |
| [08:25:00] | Krazylegz: | SlicerDicer! |
| [08:25:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, how was wings? |
| [08:25:00] | Cardoe: | hey SlicerDicer |
| [08:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh hey Krazylegz what speed is yer cpu for backend? |
| [08:25:00] | Krazylegz: | I didn't make it. In fact, I was awoken from my afternoon nap by a friend who had two Flyers tickets. |
| [08:26:00] | Krazylegz: | SlicerDicer-: 2.26Ghz Celeron-D. |
| [08:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, I bet that encodes alot faster than my 1.4 |
| [08:27:00] | Krazylegz: | Probably. |
| [08:27:00] | Krazylegz: | I wouldn't know, I only transcode. :-) |
| [08:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [08:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well here soon I am hoping to sift my 1.4ghz to a frontend and database then use my 2700+ as a backend |
| [08:31:00] | Krazylegz: | My Mythbox is by far the fastest computer in the house. |
| [08:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | really? |
| [08:33:00] | Krazylegz: | Yep. |
| [08:34:00] | Krazylegz: | 1Ghz P-III, 800mhz P-III, 450mhz P-II, 800mhz Athlon, 200mhz P5/MMX, and some other slower stuff. |
| [08:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :) |
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| [08:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx, you still around? |
| [08:43:00] | xris: | cover letter to me at silicon mechanics.. starts "Dear Northwest Territorial Mint: " |
| [08:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Nice. |
| [08:43:00] | Krazylegz: | So much for custom-tailoring resumes. |
| [08:45:00] | xris: | you'd think that people would at least change the name on the cover letter. |
| [08:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I attempted to do mythcommflag --rebuild -f /myth/store/1066_20050929195000_20050929200000.nuv to get it to redo the filesize but for some reason I cannot get myth to update that the filesize has changed anybody else got ideas? |
| [08:45:00] | xris: | his "text" resume is also just copy-paste from Word, with all kinds of weird characters instead of bullet points. |
| [08:45:00] | xris: | oh well. I'm on vacation. not going to look at that stuff until monday. |
| [08:46:00] | xris: | speaking of which, I should probably shut off my computer and go pack. |
| [08:46:00] | xris: | later. |
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| [08:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cya xris |
| [08:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | too late :/ |
| [08:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, got any ideas to my problem? |
| [08:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | myth says the file is 362mb when its 78mb? |
| [08:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | man I need to record "shakiest gun in the west" and "ghost of mr chicken" |
| [08:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [08:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | good ole don knotts |
| [08:49:00] | Krazylegz: | I don't know on that one. Why did the filesize change? |
| [08:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cause I compressed the piss out of it |
| [08:50:00] | Krazylegz: | So, it's not really a recording anymore? |
| [08:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | not really *grin* |
| [08:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the problem is ok I cannot use mythvideo to stream I dont want to do nfs.... |
| [08:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have 5 frontends |
| [08:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | only 2 of them can play dvds... |
| [08:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I only have on solution and thats to compress |
| [08:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont want mpeg4 if I can help it :) |
| [08:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. |
| [08:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Check into FUSE. |
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| [09:18:00] | cosmo_: | anyone know how to run a command in screen from a bash script such that the screen is kept alive even after the command finishes executing? |
| [09:22:00] | Skaface: | can you tell it to not run a shell, just run the program specified, and get it to run "sh command; bash" |
| [09:22:00] | Skaface: | maybe |
| [09:22:00] | didj: | could try "screen sh (command;read)" |
| [09:22:00] | didj: | would wait for keypress before exiting |
| [09:23:00] | tmk: | anyone experts on the myth scheduler? |
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| [09:24:00] | candyban: | Hi guys |
| [09:24:00] | Skaface: | oh, sorry, i misread what you said |
| [09:25:00] | candyban: | which tvtuner card should I buy? I would like multiple tuners (at least 2), hardware accellerated encoding (divx or mpeg-2) |
| [09:26:00] | candyban: | and it should have supported (and stable) drivers |
| [09:27:00] | tmk: | candyban: the only thing that i know of that fits the bill is the pvr500 |
| [09:27:00] | tmk: | and the drivers aren't quite rock-solid yet |
| [09:27:00] | tmk: | they are stable, but it may be a couple months before they figure out how to get everything intialized properly |
| [09:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the 500 seems cool |
| [09:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just I dont really see any use for 2 tuners |
| [09:28:00] | tmk: | hardware mpeg-2, 2 encoders |
| [09:28:00] | tmk: | ? |
| [09:28:00] | tmk: | i love my multi-tuner system |
| [09:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I mean thats using both recorders and I fill my space inside 15 dual recordings lol |
| [09:28:00] | tmk: | i have 2 250's, but still |
| [09:28:00] | tmk: | :) |
| [09:29:00] | tmk: | our stuff tends to record in spurts |
| [09:29:00] | tmk: | then it will record nothing for like 20 hours |
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| [09:29:00] | candyban: | slicerdicer I want to build a system where I can get streaming video (tv) in every room without worrying that it would interfere with another room |
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| [09:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have cableboxes in every room and a box dedicated to myth :) thats how I do it |
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| [09:30:00] | candyban: | SlicerDicer-: I'm proponent for doing stuff in a central place |
| [09:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I hear ya :) |
| [09:31:00] | dvsdude: | hey all |
| [09:31:00] | candyban: | SlicerDicer-: All the rooms will be fit with a pc and network, so why get additional (coax) cables in every room + extra box for mythtv? |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | point taken |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but a pvr500 wont give you livetv there is a delay keep that in mind if you want livetv get a bttv card |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | least thats the way I understand it |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | somebody can prove me wrong but I know my pvr has a delay of about 3 seconds in all functions |
| [09:33:00] | tmk: | SlicerDicer: livetv will be slow with any remote frontend |
| [09:33:00] | Skaface: | mine delays about 1 or 2 seconds |
| [09:33:00] | tmk: | unless you transport raw packets over the net |
| [09:33:00] | candyban: | SlicerDicer-: atm I have a bttv card (incredibly old) but I can't get it to work properly (bt848) |
| [09:33:00] | Skaface: | thats with a combined back/front |
| [09:33:00] | tmk: | which i don't think you can do currently |
| [09:33:00] | dvsdude: | what card would people here recommend for mythtv?? |
| [09:33:00] | tmk: | for recording? |
| [09:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | tmk, from what I hear bttv does not slow |
| [09:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but I dont know I havent ever used one |
| [09:34:00] | tmk: | SlicerDicer: the slow is due to the 'startup time' for the compression codec |
| [09:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | candyban, I am just saying what I heard :) |
| [09:34:00] | tmk: | ie mpeg-2 needs a certain amount of data before it can properly process and display video |
| [09:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hearsay :) open to slamming my words into dirt |
| [09:35:00] | Skaface: | is a 2 second delay an issue? |
| [09:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | for me? yes when I watch livetv over cablebox |
| [09:35:00] | candyban: | SlicerDicer-: You mean that when you switch channels it takes 2–3 seconds? |
| [09:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep candyban |
| [09:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | also I cant really use ondemand features of my cablebox :) |
| [09:35:00] | candyban: | SlicerDicer-: That's crap |
| [09:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | crap? |
| [09:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | howso? |
| [09:35:00] | Skaface: | lol |
| [09:35:00] | tmk: | digital cable takes almost that long |
| [09:35:00] | candyban: | SlicerDicer-: I ment ... that sux |
| [09:35:00] | tmk: | to change channels |
| [09:36:00] | candyban: | :) |
| [09:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | tmk, guess you got shitty boxes then |
| [09:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mine are fast |
| [09:36:00] | tmk: | :) motorolla |
| [09:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what model? |
| [09:36:00] | tmk: | dunno |
| [09:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | there are many models hehe |
| [09:36:00] | tmk: | dct2000? does that sound right? |
| [09:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | svideo on the back? |
| [09:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | tmk, comcast? |
| [09:37:00] | tmk: | it's a little faster now that they've upgraded the firmware |
| [09:37:00] | kormoc: | night night folks! |
| [09:37:00] | tmk: | yeah comcast california |
| [09:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | gntie kormoc |
| [09:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | tmk, want some advice? |
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| [09:37:00] | tmk: | i bet i'm gonna get some :) |
| [09:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well only if you want it :) |
| [09:37:00] | tmk: | i'll hear it |
| [09:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rs232 to control the cableboxes is advised its easy to do with comcast go to the local comcast branch and ask for the "L" model with svideo and output video by svideo so it does not act stupid |
| [09:38:00] | tmk: | i already have rs232 |
| [09:38:00] | tmk: | and i'm not sure if i'm using svideo or not |
| [09:38:00] | tmk: | i think not |
| [09:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I would advise it :) video is much better |
| [09:39:00] | tmk: | :0 |
| [09:39:00] | tmk: | my tv doesn't do svideo |
| [09:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rf modulator will fix that :) |
| [09:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | how did you plan on outputting the video from myth? |
| [09:40:00] | tmk: | pvr350 |
| [09:40:00] | tmk: | it works ok |
| [09:40:00] | candyban: | Can mythtv stream tv directly and "realtime" onto a network (using hardware mpeg-2 compression cards) |
| [09:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well dont quote me on this but I bet you can input with svideo and output with that pvr350 I dont see why it would not work |
| [09:41:00] | tmk: | candyban: yeah |
| [09:41:00] | tmk: | SlicerDicer: yeah i could do that |
| [09:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | candyban, its delayed slightly but yes |
| [09:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its not 100% realtime |
| [09:41:00] | Skaface: | lol wow! |
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| [09:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | whats that Skaface? |
| [09:42:00] | candyban: | SlicerDicer-: I could live with 0,5–1 seconds delay after switching channels ... |
| [09:42:00] | Skaface: | about it not being 100% reltime :P |
| [09:42:00] | candyban: | Or am I too demanding? |
| [09:42:00] | tmk: | too demanding! :) |
| [09:42:00] | Skaface: | i think 99% of people can live with a slight delay |
| [09:42:00] | Skaface: | :) |
| [09:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | candyban, it drives me nuts :) |
| [09:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I just switch inputs on the tv to view mythtv like its a vcr on steroids :P |
| [09:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, you still around? |
| [09:44:00] | candyban: | tmk, SlicerDicer-: which card do you use? |
| [09:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | pvr350 |
| [09:44:00] | tmk: | i have 2 pvr250's and 1 pvr350 |
| [09:44:00] | tmk: | but i almost never watch live tv |
| [09:45:00] | Skaface: | mine takes about 3 seconds to change channels, then the picture jumps a couple of times and the sound goes BBRRRRZZZZZZTT |
| [09:45:00] | Skaface: | then its fine |
| [09:45:00] | tmk: | if you want to watch live tv, just use the tuner on the TV :) |
| [09:45:00] | candyban: | Skaface: 3 seconds is too long |
| [09:45:00] | Skaface: | ive got a software encoding setup though |
| [09:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mine takes about 3 seconds |
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| [09:48:00] | candyban: | ok ... pvr-250/350 it'll be then |
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| [09:52:00] | poonj: | I can't get nuvexport to work |
| [09:52:00] | poonj: | anyone here get it to work? |
| [09:53:00] | Skaface: | is that the console based menu thing? |
| [09:54:00] | Skaface: | ive used it before if its the one im thinking of |
| [09:54:00] | Skaface: | the only format i could save to was wmv i think |
| [09:54:00] | Skaface: | had trouble with other formats |
| [10:05:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes, I am still around. |
| [10:05:00] | Krazylegz: | Though, if kormoc went to bed, then I probably should too. |
| [10:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, how do you get the compression |
| [10:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I only got 1/2 compression with the settings you have |
| [10:09:00] | opello: | could anyone estimate the time to transcode to xvid (all the default options + noise reduction) a 1 hr show... 2.4ghz p4, but only 512mb ram |
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| [10:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dunno say it would get 12 fps calculate that up to 29.97fps |
| [10:10:00] | Krazylegz: | No idea. I gave you the settings I used. |
| [10:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it encodes 12fps but it does x2 encodes |
| [10:10:00] | Krazylegz: | What are you starting with? |
| [10:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so it would be 6fps in reality and that should give you a estimate :) |
| [10:10:00] | opello: | i'm only getting 4ish frames |
| [10:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | really? |
| [10:10:00] | opello: | yeah |
| [10:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm my 1.4ghz AMD must be faster than I thought :/ |
| [10:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, I matched my settings to yours |
| [10:11:00] | opello: | amd's must be better at the right kind of math, heh |
| [10:11:00] | opello: | 1% of first pass after 5 minutes, so 500 minutes to complete the first pass, heh |
| [10:12:00] | Krazylegz: | Whoa. My 2.26Ghz Celeron-D transcoded a show like while I was talking to you before. |
| [10:12:00] | opello: | my athlon xp 2600 would probably be faster :/ |
| [10:12:00] | Krazylegz: | Took maybe 20 minutes. |
| [10:12:00] | opello: | geez, did i pick the wrong options or something? |
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| [10:12:00] | opello: | i used nuvexport |
| [10:12:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, I used mythtranscode. |
| [10:12:00] | opello: | will it do the underscan? |
| [10:12:00] | opello: | that's what i wanted to make sure to get rid of |
| [10:13:00] | Krazylegz: | No. |
| [10:15:00] | opello: | oh well, it's not like i need it in a hurry, i guess i'll see how good a job it does :) g'nite :) |
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| [10:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mythtranscode does transcode fast hehe |
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| [10:27:00] | Krazylegz: | Definitely time for bed. |
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| [10:30:00] | k-man: | hello |
| [10:30:00] | k-man: | why does mythtv not have more frequent small releases? rather than just a few really big releases? |
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| [10:33:00] | simon_c: | k-man: I't no expert, but I think the idea is if you want frequent updates, track the CVS tree |
| [10:34:00] | k-man: | simon_c, yeah, i could.. .but thats a little too bleeding edge |
| [10:34:00] | k-man: | i was thinking more along the lines of kernel development |
| [10:34:00] | k-man: | anyway |
| [10:34:00] | k-man: | i was just thinking aloud really |
| [10:35:00] | simon_c: | I'm guessing the developers don't focus on creating a stabel release very oftain, cos they all want to hack cool featues onto their boxes. |
| [10:36:00] | Skaface: | what do you think the latest .1 release is? |
| [10:36:00] | tmk: | the svn tree is usually quite stable |
| [10:36:00] | Skaface: | yes, its the first ever release that mainly fixes bugs! |
| [10:36:00] | Skaface: | :) |
| [10:43:00] | simon_c: | :-) |
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| [10:43:00] | simon_c: | Sounds like I picked the right release to get started on myth then . |
| [10:44:00] | Skaface: | i dont think the actual myth developers released this one though |
| [10:44:00] | Skaface: | so if it wernt for some 3rd party fixing the bugs and making their own release, it would never have happened |
| [10:44:00] | Skaface: | thats my understanding anyway :) |
| [10:45:00] | simon_c: | Well, most of the problems I've been having have been general system problems, not myth. Things like getting TV out to look right, and getting the remote working correctly. |
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| [10:46:00] | Skaface: | yeah, i think thats pretty normal |
| [10:46:00] | Skaface: | osx frontend is a bit crappy still though |
| [10:46:00] | simon_c: | Although, I think there are some layout bugs on myth-web, and getting a decent size text font inside myth so you can read in on the TV is still bugging me. |
| [10:47:00] | Skaface: | thats just your X DPI setting |
| [10:47:00] | Skaface: | well, thats how i fixed it anyway |
| [10:47:00] | Skaface: | hold on a sec |
| [10:49:00] | Skaface: | i use gdm, but wherever your line is that starts X, |
| [10:49:00] | Skaface: | command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -dpi 100 |
| [10:49:00] | Skaface: | that works well on my large screen plasma |
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| [11:10:00] | syle: | is it possible to recode movies into 4:3? |
| [11:10:00] | syle: | take a .vob file and make it 4:3 |
| [11:11:00] | syle: | or somehow make it so for now on when i rip dvd;s the .vob files are automatically 4:3 |
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| [11:46:00] | simon_c: | Skaface: Ahhhh. |
| [11:47:00] | simon_c: | I need to remove the login manager anyway and script the entire bootup and loading of backend & frontend That should help. |
| [11:47:00] | simon_c: | Thansk. |
| [11:49:00] | simon_c: | I also have a problem in the playback aspect of things I record from RF. I can change them while they are playing, but they always start at 4:3, as if they were on a 12" screen. |
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| [12:07:00] | Skaface: | do you have a wide screen tv? |
| [12:07:00] | Skaface: | simon_c: |
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| [12:08:00] | simon_c: | Skaface: Yes |
| [12:08:00] | simon_c: | 31" widescreen from Tosh. |
| [12:09:00] | Skaface: | ok, i think you have to set your screen dimensions in the X config |
| [12:09:00] | Skaface: | and resolution |
| [12:10:00] | Skaface: | is it running a wide screen res? |
| [12:10:00] | simon_c: | The TV, or the graphics card |
| [12:11:00] | simon_c: | I've no idea what the native resolution of the TV is, I tried looking in themanual etc. |
| [12:11:00] | simon_c: | the graphics card is currently set to 1024x768 though. Should I try a different res ? |
| [12:12:00] | Skaface: | is it plasma or crt? |
| [12:13:00] | simon_c: | CRT |
| [12:13:00] | Skaface: | ok then, im not too familiar with widescreen crt's |
| [12:14:00] | Skaface: | but you should be able to set your tv card to use a widescreen resolution |
| [12:14:00] | simon_c: | very common in the UK these days. |
| [12:14:00] | Skaface: | have a look in google or something for that |
| [12:14:00] | defaultro: | Hey skaface, do you see my private message to you? |
| [12:14:00] | simon_c: | Skaface: OK. I'll dig about again for wide screen resolutions. Shoudl I change the FE theme too if I do that ? |
| [12:14:00] | defaultro: | wide screens are 16x9 |
| [12:15:00] | Skaface: | i didnt |
| [12:15:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [12:15:00] | defaultro: | prolly it's block |
| [12:15:00] | Skaface: | theres also some X settings where you give it your screen dimensions in mm |
| [12:15:00] | defaultro: | i would like to ask something about house positioning :) |
| [12:15:00] | simon_c: | defaultro: Yes, that sounds fammiliaer. |
| [12:15:00] | defaultro: | I have xorg.conf online |
| [12:15:00] | defaultro: | and it's for hdtv :) |
| [12:16:00] | defaultro: | i'm driving mine at 1920x1080 |
| [12:16:00] | defaultro: | Skaface, do you own a house? |
| [12:16:00] | Skaface: | arnt crt's only like 700 lines high? |
| [12:16:00] | Skaface: | i answered your pm |
| [12:16:00] | defaultro: | i didn't get it |
| [12:16:00] | defaultro: | no worries |
| [12:17:00] | simon_c: | Skaface: Yes, I've set that in SAX2 (suse's X configuration tool) and set the aspect ratio in there, but I *think* it only uses that for some apps, not the entire system. |
| [12:17:00] | defaultro: | it's just that, i would like to know if the position of the lot i bought is ok |
| [12:17:00] | defaultro: | my house will be facing west |
| [12:17:00] | defaultro: | and am in Illinois |
| [12:18:00] | defaultro: | from what I'm seeing now, I'll more afternoon sunlights in the driveway |
| [12:18:00] | defaultro: | don't know if that's good |
| [12:18:00] | Skaface: | you are in a different hemisphere to me anyway defaultro, i wonder if that makes a difference |
| [12:18:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [12:19:00] | defaultro: | where you at? UK? |
| [12:19:00] | Skaface: | australia |
| [12:19:00] | defaultro: | oh yeah |
| [12:19:00] | defaultro: | the land down under |
| [12:19:00] | defaultro: | Devo guys |
| [12:19:00] | defaultro: | right? |
| [12:19:00] | Skaface: | devo guys? |
| [12:19:00] | defaultro: | they're a band |
| [12:19:00] | defaultro: | back in 1970s |
| [12:19:00] | Skaface: | oh, yeah :) |
| [12:20:00] | defaultro: | i like that song about australia |
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| [12:21:00] | Skaface: | lol, i probably know it, but i cant picture it at the moment |
| [12:21:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [12:22:00] | Skaface: | i know they sing mongoloid |
| [12:22:00] | Skaface: | hehe |
| [12:22:00] | defaultro: | i'm searching google on which part should my house face for best location |
| [12:22:00] | defaultro: | i never heard it |
| [12:22:00] | defaultro: | all i know is that song i mentioned |
| [12:22:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [12:22:00] | Skaface: | haha ok |
| [12:23:00] | defaultro: | i was only 5 that time |
| [12:23:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [12:23:00] | defaultro: | my brothers rock and roll music had impact on me :) i like listening to rock music too |
| [12:23:00] | Skaface: | and i would have been about -10 |
| [12:23:00] | defaultro: | heheeheh |
| [12:24:00] | defaultro: | do you know mchou? |
| [12:24:00] | Skaface: | cant say that i do |
| [12:24:00] | defaultro: | prolly not coz you're on a differnt country |
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| [12:24:00] | defaultro: | different timezone so you don't see him here |
| [12:24:00] | Skaface: | oh thats a person on irc |
| [12:24:00] | Skaface: | i thought you were talking about a band |
| [12:25:00] | Skaface: | haha |
| [12:25:00] | Skaface: | whats the time there? |
| [12:25:00] | Skaface: | about 9am or something? |
| [12:25:00] | defaultro: | it's 5am |
| [12:25:00] | Skaface: | oh ok |
| [12:26:00] | Skaface: | what are you doing out of bed?! |
| [12:26:00] | defaultro: | i got up so early |
| [12:26:00] | defaultro: | i slept 11pm but i woke up 3am |
| [12:26:00] | defaultro: | prolly excited for this afternoon's contract signing |
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| [12:26:00] | Skaface: | ahh, i dont blame you then :) |
| [12:26:00] | defaultro: | but looks like i made a wrong decision of the house position |
| [12:26:00] | defaultro: | i just read this, http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:0liTHLC0 . . . st&hl=en |
| [12:27:00] | defaultro: | it's telling that house should face north |
| [12:27:00] | defaultro: | mine is facing west |
| [12:27:00] | Skaface: | well, its only half wrong then |
| [12:27:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [12:27:00] | Skaface: | at least its not facing south |
| [12:28:00] | defaultro: | hmmm, looks like the house i'm living right now is the perfect position |
| [12:28:00] | defaultro: | i might reconsider it again |
| [12:28:00] | Skaface: | haha, stop reading! |
| [12:29:00] | Skaface: | lol, west facing glass should be minimised to reduce overheating in the summer |
| [12:30:00] | defaultro: | oh no |
| [12:30:00] | Skaface: | theres nothing a bit of shade cloth can't fix |
| [12:30:00] | defaultro: | can you load this please, http://www.countryenergy.com.au/internet/cewe . . . ovations.pdf |
| [12:31:00] | defaultro: | I have a question on page 2 |
| [12:31:00] | defaultro: | the diagram |
| [12:31:00] | Skaface: | ok im there |
| [12:32:00] | Skaface: | thats one confusing diagram |
| [12:32:00] | defaultro: | the house doesnt show the front of the house, is it left or the right? |
| [12:32:00] | defaultro: | i know |
| [12:33:00] | Skaface: | i think it should be right |
| [12:33:00] | Skaface: | as long as its not facing south |
| [12:33:00] | defaultro: | you mean the front of the house is not facing south? |
| [12:34:00] | defaultro: | based on diagram 2, house is facing north right? |
| [12:34:00] | Skaface: | ok, i get it now |
| [12:35:00] | Skaface: | the living areas are facing north |
| [12:35:00] | Skaface: | so in the winter the sun goes straight in cause its at a lower angle |
| [12:35:00] | Skaface: | and in the summer the sun is higher up, so the eves should block most of the sun |
| [12:36:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [12:36:00] | defaultro: | so you're saying that front of house should face north? |
| [12:37:00] | Skaface: | i think the front should face south |
| [12:37:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [12:37:00] | Skaface: | as far as i can work out |
| [12:37:00] | Skaface: | hehe |
| [12:37:00] | defaultro: | that's what my neight told me too |
| [12:37:00] | defaultro: | neighbor |
| [12:37:00] | defaultro: | :( |
| [12:37:00] | Skaface: | so your front door is facing west? |
| [12:37:00] | defaultro: | my house will be facing west :( |
| [12:38:00] | defaultro: | i haven't signed the contract yet |
| [12:38:00] | defaultro: | i can still change later |
| [12:38:00] | Skaface: | so that means youll see the sun rise out your back windows |
| [12:38:00] | defaultro: | yup |
| [12:38:00] | Skaface: | and as it sets it will cast a shadow over your back yard |
| [12:38:00] | defaultro: | what do you think about that? |
| [12:38:00] | Skaface: | that would be perfect in summer i reckon |
| [12:38:00] | defaultro: | the reason i took it is because, i thought that during snow, afternoon sun will melt the snow |
| [12:39:00] | defaultro: | so once, am home, no plowing anymore |
| [12:39:00] | Skaface: | hmm, i guess so... ive never seen snow in the streets before so i cant comment on that one |
| [12:39:00] | defaultro: | but looks like if it's facing west, it's gonna kill my plants |
| [12:39:00] | Skaface: | :P |
| [12:40:00] | Skaface: | the garden should still get the same amount of sun i think |
| [12:40:00] | Skaface: | just at a different time of day |
| [12:40:00] | defaultro: | i noticed here that my plants facing west are dyring out, dying |
| [12:40:00] | defaultro: | coz afternoon sun is different from morning sun |
| [12:40:00] | Skaface: | if you had plants on the south side of the house, that would be bad |
| [12:41:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [12:41:00] | defaultro: | do you think i should change lot? |
| [12:42:00] | defaultro: | find a lot where the house front will face south? |
| [12:42:00] | Skaface: | depends how much it will annoy you i guess |
| [12:42:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [12:43:00] | Skaface: | no point spending all that money on building a house if youre not gonna be happy with its position |
| [12:43:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [12:43:00] | defaultro: | I'm thinking of what's currently happening in our house now during summer |
| [12:43:00] | defaultro: | i remember that it's hot in family room and kitchen |
| [12:44:00] | Skaface: | it probably doesnt really make much of a difference at all which way the house faces :P |
| [12:44:00] | defaultro: | i think it does for energy conservation |
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| [12:48:00] | Skaface: | yeah, i suppose so |
| [12:48:00] | Skaface: | do you guys have certain star ratings on houses? |
| [12:48:00] | Skaface: | like 5 star is double glazed glass and stuff |
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| [12:49:00] | defaultro: | that i don't know |
| [12:49:00] | defaultro: | i'm hoping that double glazed are standard |
| [12:49:00] | Skaface: | might be an australian thing |
| [12:49:00] | defaultro: | my windows now are double glazed |
| [12:51:00] | Skaface: | http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=new_homes.hm_index |
| [12:51:00] | Skaface: | yeah it is a world wide thing |
| [12:52:00] | defaultro: | ok |
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| [12:56:00] | defaultro: | this is nice, http://www.bobvila.com/ArticleLibrary/Task/We . . . insunda.html |
| [12:57:00] | defaultro: | The Which Way to Turn |
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| [12:58:00] | defaultro: | i think, since I'm often in family room and kitchen, I'll have my house face north |
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| [15:41:00] | jhoke: | Morning |
| [15:41:00] | sphing: | mornin |
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| [15:42:00] | jhoke: | can anyone help with a jumppoint/lirc setup question? |
| [15:43:00] | jhoke: | been beating my head against a wall for a while now ... and aside from being a bit bruised and bloody, I am thouroughly confuddled why something is not working |
| [15:44:00] | simon_c: | jhoke: lirc does that to you. |
| [15:44:00] | simon_c: | Did that to me anyway |
| [15:44:00] | jhoke: | heh |
| [15:44:00] | simon_c: | no idea what jumppoint is though |
| [15:45:00] | jhoke: | trying to work out ctrl+ sequences and they work via keyboard but not via remote |
| [15:45:00] | sphing: | jhoke: just ask... ill do what i can |
| [15:45:00] | jhoke: | ok, does this look kosher: |
| [15:45:00] | jhoke: | prog = mythtv |
| [15:45:00] | jhoke: | button = TV |
| [15:45:00] | jhoke: | repeat = 3 |
| [15:45:00] | jhoke: | config = \1 |
| [15:46:00] | jhoke: | that *should* send a CTRL+1 whenever the TV button is pressed... but it does not seem to fly |
| [15:47:00] | jhoke: | irw shows the button pressed and read, but no action is taken. If I press ctrl+1 in myth the TV jumppoint works (live tv starts) |
| [15:47:00] | simon_c: | jhoke: Do You know the remote is working with other keys ? |
| [15:47:00] | jhoke: | yep... and irw shows all keys responding as expected |
| [15:47:00] | simon_c: | jhoke: Have you tried using "ircat mythtv " ? |
| [15:47:00] | jhoke: | I thgink it is the CTRL sequence... maybe LIRCD is not accepting the ctrl sequence? |
| [15:47:00] | jhoke: | no... trying now |
| [15:48:00] | Skaface: | if the loch ness monster died, wouldnt it have bloated up and floated to the top? |
| [15:48:00] | Skaface: | /off topic discussion |
| [15:49:00] | jhoke: | ircat mythtv is showing blank lines where the \1 statement should be |
| [15:49:00] | jhoke: | so I assume lircd is the culprit? |
| [15:50:00] | jhoke: | feh |
| [15:51:00] | jhoke: | skaface: unless something bigger than good ol' nessie ate her |
| [15:51:00] | Skaface: | ohh |
| [15:51:00] | jhoke: | or there was Spontaneous Immaginary Sea Creature Combustion :) |
| [15:52:00] | Skaface: | haha |
| [15:52:00] | jhoke: | "look, she's a lilttle green globulal on the drum riser..." |
| [15:52:00] | Skaface: | thats probably the case |
| [15:52:00] | jhoke: | Spinal Tap reference +10pnts |
| [15:53:00] | jhoke: | simon_c: do you know how to send the F2 key with lirc? is it just "F2"? |
| [15:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | more likely KEY_F2 |
| [15:54:00] | jhoke: | GreyFoxx TY... what about a ctrl+1? |
| [15:54:00] | simon_c: | jhoke: I *think* so, yes. |
| [15:54:00] | jhoke: | that *should* be /1 from the docs |
| [15:54:00] | simon_c: | one sec |
| [15:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, KEY_F2 is a standard keycode from input.h. There is no "single" keycode for a CTRL+1 since it's technically 2 keys. |
| [15:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | I wouldn't know what lirc would use to represent it |
| [15:56:00] | jhoke: | GF: thanks... based on the lircd page, they intrepret /u to be ctrl+u and /t to be a tab ... trying to come up with a workable solution for jumppoints on my remote |
| [15:59:00] | jhoke: | Ok, just as an aside, it is F3 not KEY_F3 |
| [15:59:00] | jhoke: | still cant get the CTRL+ to work, but I can use function keys for now |
| [16:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | So it's not using the standard keycode naming. odd |
| [16:00:00] | jhoke: | unless it is doing it internally? |
| [16:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I don't use lirc, so I can only trust what works for you :) |
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| [16:00:00] | jhoke: | I am going to test if I can define non-existant F* keys |
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| [16:01:00] | jhoke: | well, F14 works... lets try F23 and hail discordia |
| [16:02:00] | sphing_: | DAMMIT the fire alarm keeps going off |
| [16:02:00] | sphing_: | wtf |
| [16:02:00] | jhoke: | yep... ok, so that will be nice, using "fake" function keys for jumppoints on the remote :) |
| [16:02:00] | Skaface: | have you checked for a fire? |
| [16:02:00] | Skaface: | :) |
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| [16:05:00] | sphing_: | yes my roommate did |
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| [16:07:00] | ** oxo has a little problem: ** | |
| [16:07:00] | oxo: | 2005-09–30 16:02:26.711 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [16:07:00] | oxo: | 2005-09–30 16:02:29.091 Timed out waiting for free video buffers. |
| [16:07:00] | oxo: | 2005-09–30 16:02:29.091 Attempting video sync thread restart |
| [16:07:00] | oxo: | 2005-09–30 16:02:31.304 Timed out waiting for free video buffers. |
| [16:07:00] | oxo: | ... |
| [16:07:00] | ** oxo tried googling, but I had no luck ** | |
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| [16:07:00] | oxo: | did I miss something? |
| [16:09:00] | oxo: | (/me is running 0.18.1, with a PVR150 (ivtv) card) |
| [16:10:00] | sphing: | oxo: i dont know... just so you know at least one person is watching |
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| [16:16:00] | jhoke: | hmmm... so close yet so far... |
| [16:16:00] | jhoke: | oxo: sorry I have not had that issue wiht my 150's (yet) |
| [16:17:00] | jhoke: | the only thing I cant get lirc to do is send multiple commands via one key... will get it all working eventually... but WAF is growing by the day :) |
| [16:18:00] | jhoke: | shit... gotta run to a client... simon_c, GreyFoxx TY for the help! |
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| [17:20:00] | ** oxo does not _what_ was changed, but after a minor mythsetup session, the "timed out" is gone ** | |
| [17:20:00] | oxo: | amongst the things I fiddled with was the theme.. |
| [17:20:00] | oxo: | very strange |
| [17:25:00] | Icks: | does anyone here use the python scripts for mythtv on an xbox? |
| [17:28:00] | sphing: | Icks: for xbmc |
| [17:28:00] | sphing: | i tried them and didnt like them |
| [17:35:00] | Icks: | why not? |
| [17:38:00] | sphing: | i didnt like the idea of having to install samba on my box |
| [17:38:00] | sphing: | so i just got gentoo working on the xbox and installed from there |
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| [17:38:00] | Icks: | acually what i'm wondering is why when i type in the setting>path> smb://ed:pass@192.168.0.107/recording it can't find the movies, if i type that into browser on myth machine it works |
| [17:38:00] | sphing: | i got no idea.... like i said when i realized it needed samba... i stopped playing with it |
| [17:39:00] | Icks: | and xbmc can run the movies it's self if i browse to the dir |
| [17:39:00] | sphing: | is booting into linux not an option? |
| [17:39:00] | Icks: | it is, and that is setup, but it's to slow imo |
| [17:40:00] | sphing: | hmm... i'm watching tv off my xbox right now... not slow at all |
| [17:40:00] | sphing: | slow functioning or slow boot up time... |
| [17:40:00] | Icks: | runing mythtv on top of xebian is a little slow boot up.. |
| [17:40:00] | Icks: | it runs fine once you get the movie playing.. |
| [17:40:00] | sphing: | ahh yes... i have it running of a netboot gentoo install and the bootup is slow |
| [17:41:00] | sphing: | but there are definatively some optimizations i can make that i havent yet |
| [17:41:00] | Icks: | i'm not computer literate enough to try optimizing, as you can prolly tell |
| [17:42:00] | sphing: | well you got myth working an xbox booting linux... so you're not dumb |
| [17:42:00] | drose: | anyone here using a PVR-350 w/ tv out and X11 ? |
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| [17:46:00] | Icks: | there is acually pretty good instructions on how to do it, i can't seem to find any on that samba path for the scripts tho |
| [17:47:00] | sphing: | Icks: OT question: does your xbox have an 8 gig or 10 gig |
| [17:48:00] | Icks: | one has 300 one has 160 |
| [17:48:00] | sphing: | lol ok nevermind... |
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| [17:48:00] | Icks: | why? |
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| [17:49:00] | sphing: | cause i havent cracked the case on my xbox... so its the 10 gig and I remember reading some where that the extra 2 gigs arent doing anything so I was going to format then for swap |
| [17:49:00] | sphing: | so that my xbox can still play games |
| [17:53:00] | laga: | do i need to tell mythtv when i'm using a 16:9 tv? |
| [17:55:00] | Icks: | if your watching live tv you can push 'M' and change it, dunno why you would 'need' to tho |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | Icks: well, i've just hooked up a 16:9 television to the myth box and was wondering if i need to do something to get the best experience. but changing he aspect ratio to 16:9 helps, thanks |
| [17:58:00] | Icks: | i watch it on a wide screen to, but i leave it with black bars running up the sides or it stretches people, just looks wrong imo |
| [17:58:00] | Icks: | the feed i'm geting from cable company is not wide screen tho |
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| [18:07:00] | drose: | anyone here using a PVR-350 w/ tv out and X11 ? |
| [18:07:00] | Krazylegz: | I've done it, but I don't now. |
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| [18:46:00] | sphing: | Icks: does ed's debian have the xbox utils |
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| [18:52:00] | Flamie: | quick question: do mythgame-cvs compile with myth 0.18.1 ? |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hrm. Can;t say I've tried that |
| [18:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can't think of anything in particular that was changed in mythgame to make it not run with it, but having never tried to mix versions of stuff I can't say for certain |
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| [18:58:00] | Flamie: | thanks fox, I'm gonna try |
| [18:58:00] | Flamie: | if you're intersted in the result I post back in ~30–50 minutes |
| [18:59:00] | Flamie: | do you know if they solved the problem with controlling myth with a joystick, and after you exit a game it gets input that was pressed during the game? |
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| [19:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Flamie: Honestly I've never even enabled joystick menu control |
| [19:02:00] | Flamie: | ok. |
| [19:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | I keep meaning to give it a try but so far have not remembered whenever I was compiling a new version :) |
| [19:02:00] | Flamie: | it works like a charm except for that very case :) |
| [19:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | So after the game exits you see a stream of menu movements as if it buffered up what was sent to the game ? |
| [19:03:00] | Flamie: | well, normally it just starts another game |
| [19:03:00] | Flamie: | and another |
| [19:03:00] | Flamie: | and another >_< |
| [19:03:00] | Flamie: | and so on, so forth |
| [19:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hrm. I don't remember hearin about that before nor seeing a bug report in Trac |
| [19:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | If it still occurs with the latest svn verssion put a ticket in trac and I'll take a look at it when I get a chance |
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| [19:16:00] | jhoke: | heyas |
| [19:16:00] | jhoke: | so... lets say a persons' hard drive croaked that contained his recorded programs, and he wanted to remove said programs from the DB... is there a quick and easy way to do this? |
| [19:17:00] | jhoke: | not that this has happened to me today mind you ... nah.. not me ;) |
| [19:18:00] | sphing: | remove all the recorded shows ? |
| [19:19:00] | jhoke: | yeah |
| [19:19:00] | jhoke: | never mind... found hte table to clear ;) |
| [19:19:00] | sphing: | :) |
| [19:21:00] | smoke_: | anyone here know much about modifying the music/video menu themes? |
| [19:22:00] | jhoke: | now that I have nothing left recorded, I am debating rebuilding from scratch... from sources instead of ATRpms |
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| [19:24:00] | jhoke: | smoke_: sorry ... not I |
| [19:24:00] | smoke_: | :/ |
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| [19:24:00] | jhoke: | now the questions are ... to reinstall or not to reinstall ... and if reinstall, which distro to use? SuSE 9.3 or FC4 ... |
| [19:26:00] | smoke_: | man no one knows : |
| [19:26:00] | jhoke: | anyone have thoughts on distros (and why)? |
| [19:26:00] | jhoke: | smoke... all I know is to look @ the others, especially those in "default" |
| [19:27:00] | smoke_: | no i do |
| [19:27:00] | jhoke: | ? |
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| [19:28:00] | jhoke: | if I go with SuSE I can use all of nuvexport which would be a good thing(tm) ... gyah... screw it .. time to blow this box |
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| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | lucky box |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | it's getting blown |
| [19:29:00] | jhoke: | Beirdo LOL |
| [19:30:00] | jhoke: | well, twice in one day... 1st the Disk got Hard and Blown... therefore its only right to blow the rest of it :) |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | oh god |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:30:00] | jhoke: | thinkin' of rolling SuSE and install SVN on it |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | so SuSE is a type of joint then? |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:31:00] | jhoke: | LOL I wish |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | I like Fridays |
| [19:31:00] | opello: | does anyone know if konsole has always had the edit > save history as option? |
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| [19:32:00] | ** Beirdo slaps opello with a KDE trout ** | |
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| [19:32:00] | opello: | heh |
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| [19:32:00] | jhoke: | or ... I could kill off the ATRPms on this box and just install from source... less work |
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| [19:32:00] | jhoke: | Eek! Trout fights |
| [19:32:00] | opello: | the question of recording the buffer in konsole was asked of me, i found screenshots of konsole and saw the option :) figured someone here should have used it sometime in the past... i haven't :) |
| [19:32:00] | jhoke: | silly fins |
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| [19:33:00] | smoke_: | someone here yet that knows about theming ? :) |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | Jeeez |
| [19:33:00] | jhoke: | oy vey |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | go read the damn source |
| [19:33:00] | smoke_: | what part? heh |
| [19:33:00] | laga: | jhoke: such a schlamassel |
| [19:34:00] | jhoke: | laga: lol |
| [19:34:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [19:34:00] | jhoke: | laga: you cant grow up in NYC without learning Spanglish and Yiddish |
| [19:34:00] | Chutt: | if you can't figure it out from modifying the existing themes, you shouldn't be trying in the first place. |
| [19:35:00] | laga: | jhoke: hehe. i don't know any yiddish, unfortunately. but my spanman is quite good ;) |
| [19:35:00] | jhoke: | is there any documentation on migrating from jarod's ATrpms based install to SVN, or should i start with a clean slate |
| [19:35:00] | jhoke: | laga: lol :) |
| [19:36:00] | laga: | jhoke: i believe there's something on the mythtv.info wiki. you might want to search for CVS instead of SVN |
| [19:36:00] | jhoke: | laga: ty...hitting it now |
| [19:36:00] | Chutt: | the conversion directions in the old wiki are crap |
| [19:36:00] | Chutt: | just start clean |
| [19:36:00] | smoke_: | Chutt, i know how to modify the theme |
| [19:36:00] | Chutt: | smoke, then why are you still asking the same question every 2 minutes? |
| [19:37:00] | smoke_: | im just having problems with the music-ui.xml file.. i can't figure out why it wont set the bg for me. |
| [19:37:00] | smoke_: | cuz no one here knows anything about themeing mythtv. |
| [19:37:00] | ** Beirdo hands Chutt the trout ** | |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:37:00] | smoke_: | well that are talking. |
| [19:37:00] | Chutt: | you're getting rather annoying. |
| [19:37:00] | smoke_: | :( |
| [19:38:00] | smoke_: | sorry, ill keep looking. |
| [19:38:00] | smoke_: | but you guys can't referr me to any documentation of some sort? |
| [19:38:00] | jhoke: | laga: TY http://mythtv.info/moin.cgi/UpgradeToCvsHowTo |
| [19:38:00] | Chutt: | there isn't any |
| [19:38:00] | Chutt: | as you've been told before, i believe. |
| [19:38:00] | jhoke: | Chutt: ok ...ty |
| [19:38:00] | smoke_: | Chutt, no one told me that. |
| [19:38:00] | smoke_: | but now i know thank you :) |
| [19:39:00] | laga: | jhoke: good luck ;) |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | smoke_: I'm pretty sure we told you before. |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | but either way, have fun fiddling :) |
| [19:40:00] | smoke_: | heh thanks :) |
| [19:41:00] | jhoke: | hmm for someone who is ok with myth in general, and not afraid of compiling... is the current SVN fairly stable, or should I stick with 0.18.1? |
| [19:42:00] | laga: | jhoke: i'm currently compiling latest SVN ;). from what i've heard it's fairly stable, but there have been some oddities with DVB lately. most of it should be fixed now, though |
| [19:43:00] | jhoke: | laga: TY. I am using a pvr250 and 150 card, so I think it should be fairly stable at that point... I am gonna give it a whirl, worst case is that it blows up in my face and I have to reinstall :) |
| [19:43:00] | laga: | jhoke: hehe. make sure to get a backup of your database! |
| [19:44:00] | laga: | does mythmusic support m3u playlists? i think i've heard something like that. |
| [19:44:00] | jhoke: | laga: nothing in it currently that I care much about ... lost my recordings earlier today in a HD death |
| [19:44:00] | laga: | jhoke: ouch, that bites. well, you might want to keep your settings |
| [19:45:00] | jhoke: | laga: I dunno... but I wish MythGallery could play a m3u file while showing images :) |
| [19:45:00] | laga: | jhoke: hehe |
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| [19:45:00] | jhoke: | ok... uninstalling myth rpms... duck & cover |
| [19:46:00] | laga: | jhoke: such things have been discussed, the last question about this was umm... something with PiP on the -dev ml |
| [19:46:00] | jhoke: | laga: yeah Xris was telling me a bit about it yesterday... I guess I am going to need to sub to the dev lists to keep up to date :) |
| [19:47:00] | laga: | jhoke: you really should do that :). i use it with gmail and i really like it. if you don't want to use your existing email account, i could spare a gmail invitation |
| [19:47:00] | jhoke: | laga: ty i have about 200 invites ;) |
| [19:48:00] | laga: | jhoke: hehe ;) |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | gah |
| [19:48:00] | ** laga pokes Beirdo with a smelly, old trout ** | |
| [19:48:00] | jhoke: | google really should just kill the fucking invites already and open the system up to everyone... its not like you can't get invites if you need/want em |
| [19:48:00] | ** Beirdo slaps laga with a trout ** | |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | jhoke: it IS open |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | you just need to get someone to invite you |
| [19:49:00] | ** laga hits Beirdo over the head with the troutbat ** | |
| [19:49:00] | jhoke: | that's what I mean ;) |
| [19:49:00] | ** jhoke hits Beirdo over the head with a SysV manual ** | |
| [19:49:00] | laga: | jhoke: hey, play nice. |
| [19:49:00] | ** Beirdo tosses a whole set of OSF/1 manuals at jhoke ** | |
| [19:49:00] | jhoke: | that was nice .... LOL |
| [19:49:00] | jhoke: | LMAO |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | wonder if anyone ever read them all? |
| [19:50:00] | jhoke: | I wonder if anyone who started is still trying to read them all |
| [19:50:00] | jhoke: | there is no end in sight |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | they'd be great for camping |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | screw firewood |
| [19:51:00] | jhoke: | better than leaves for tp as well |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | likely so |
| [19:52:00] | jhoke: | laga: are you running 18-fixes or the dev version |
| [19:53:00] | laga: | jhoke: dev |
| [19:53:00] | jhoke: | ok... just curious ;) I am looking at the 19 roadmap looks like all the major bugs are squashed... debating which svn to run with |
| [19:54:00] | Chutt: | uh, the 'roadmap' has absolutely no bearing on the stability or closeness to a release. |
| [19:54:00] | laga: | anyone running mythmusic with 256mb ram and a quite large music collection (~40gb)? i was wondering if someone elses experiences extreme slowness when navigating the menus. |
| [19:54:00] | jhoke: | Chutt.. sorry you are right |
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| [20:01:00] | Jelte: | HI all... anyone here ever use the Roku Photobridge as a MythTV front end.. it's what i'm currently looking at buying, but before i do i thought i'd check if there are other (better?) suggestions |
| [20:02:00] | laga: | Jelte: well, what is a roku photobridge? |
| [20:02:00] | Jelte: | laga: http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/PBModels.php |
| [20:02:00] | Jelte: | it basically is a photo viewing thing.. but it has an open SDK |
| [20:02:00] | Jelte: | so there are loads of 3rd party apps for it.. including a mythtv frontend |
| [20:03:00] | laga: | a real mythtv frontend?! |
| [20:03:00] | jhoke: | do you have links to the 3rd party apps? is there a list? |
| [20:03:00] | Jelte: | well its still very much in beta, but its getting there |
| [20:03:00] | Jelte: | yeah, got a link, but it doesn't have all the apps.. hangon |
| [20:04:00] | nick01: | anybody here installed mythtv on slackware ? any dependency problems ? |
| [20:04:00] | laga: | nick01: well, nothing that couldn't be solved. |
| [20:04:00] | nick01: | last time I tried to compile it it was a nightmare, now I found a package |
| [20:04:00] | laga: | nick01: just compile it yourself or get the stuff of linuxpackages.net |
| [20:04:00] | Jelte: | the list : http://frequal.com/roku/AllPhotoBridgeApps.html (check out slimroku for a cool mp3 app) |
| [20:04:00] | nick01: | yeah that's where I found the tgz |
| [20:04:00] | laga: | nick01: either way, you will need the dependencies to run it |
| [20:05:00] | nick01: | like what ? 100 small libs ? |
| [20:05:00] | laga: | nick01: you should be able to find the dependencies on linuxpackages.net then, too. just give it a try |
| [20:05:00] | laga: | nick01: take a look at the README file of mythtv. |
| [20:05:00] | Jelte: | and the mythtv frontend for it : http://mythroku.blogspot.com/ |
| [20:06:00] | nick01: | u mean the frontend is not included in the package from linuxpackages.net ? |
| [20:06:00] | Jelte: | guess from the response no-one's tried it then ? ;-) |
| [20:06:00] | jhoke: | havent tried it, but it looks interesting.. |
| [20:06:00] | laga: | nick01: what makes you think that? |
| [20:06:00] | Jelte: | thats what i thought |
| [20:07:00] | jhoke: | Jelte: how much do they run? |
| [20:07:00] | nick01: | Jelte makes me thing that |
| [20:07:00] | nick01: | think |
| [20:07:00] | Jelte: | you mean cost? well thats the tricky part.. but i found one for about 220 quid (UK) |
| [20:07:00] | jhoke: | hmm gonna check the retailers...brb |
| [20:08:00] | laga: | nick01: Jelte is talking about a different thing. |
| [20:08:00] | nick01: | laga, where have u seen dependency info on linuxpackages about mythtv ? |
| [20:08:00] | nick01: | k |
| [20:08:00] | jhoke: | hmmm refurbs for US $199 |
| [20:08:00] | Jelte: | they do two versions.. HD1000 and HD1500... the latter comes with art packs, which is the only difference.. dont care for that.. but looks like they've stopped selling the HD1000 in the UK |
| [20:08:00] | laga: | nick01: nowhere. i only know that i've successfully used mythtv on slackware. |
| [20:08:00] | nick01: | k |
| [20:08:00] | drose: | anyone here using a PVR-350 w/ tv out and X11 ? |
| [20:08:00] | laga: | nick01: IIRC, slackware depends on libfreetype, liblame and qt |
| [20:09:00] | Jelte: | sorry nick... was talkign about roku photobridge ;-) |
| [20:09:00] | jhoke: | the HD1000B is $300.00 US |
| [20:09:00] | nick01: | Jelte, I c, ok |
| [20:09:00] | nick01: | k- I'll give it a shot |
| [20:09:00] | nick01: | bye |
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| [20:09:00] | Jelte: | jhoke: , yep... |
| [20:10:00] | jhoke: | looks interesting... going to need to look at it some more :) |
| [20:10:00] | laga: | this photobridge stuff looks really sexy. a bit overpriced for my budget, though. |
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| [20:10:00] | Jelte: | jhoke: , my plan is to have mythtv backend, and that as front end :-) |
| [20:11:00] | jhoke: | Jelte: thats what I am thinking... I have to build a new FE soon... *IF* this can work as a FE it would be cheaper than building a new box for a FE |
| [20:11:00] | Jelte: | jhoke yep... and nice slim, not noisy.. and added benefit of a cool toy ;-) |
| [20:11:00] | Jelte: | with open sdk ;-) |
| [20:12:00] | laga: | did you check if there was some discussion about the photobridge on the mailing list? |
| [20:12:00] | Jelte: | jhoke: , not the FE is still in beta... i've mailed with the developer and its looking good.. . it works, but you cant fast forward or rewind live feeds yet |
| [20:12:00] | Jelte: | thats next on the list |
| [20:12:00] | Jelte: | you can pause it though |
| [20:12:00] | jhoke: | laga: just searched... not much on the list |
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| [20:13:00] | Jelte: | and scheduling/recording will have to be done via mythweb |
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| [20:13:00] | jhoke: | Jelte: thats ok,I do *all* scheduling via mythweb :) |
| [20:14:00] | Jelte: | so ff and rw are on the todo list, and next inline is commercial skipping |
| [20:14:00] | jhoke: | Ok, removing all Myth* ATRPms... then will install via source... not going to go and remove the dependancies rpms (yet) |
| [20:15:00] | Jelte: | it also plays all videos you might have on the backend.. ie outside of mythtv |
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| [20:22:00] | nick01: | I just installed mythtv and it sais something about not being able to connect to the database – what the heck is that ? |
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| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | RTFM |
| [20:23:00] | nick01: | lol |
| [20:23:00] | nick01: | I hate that answer – I just want to use my tv tuner not work with some database |
| [20:24:00] | Beirdo: | RTFM |
| [20:24:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [20:24:00] | Jelte: | RTBFM |
| [20:24:00] | laga: | Jelte: B? |
| [20:24:00] | ivor: | B? |
| [20:24:00] | Jelte: | Bloody |
| [20:24:00] | nick01: | maybe there's a setup program I must use first ? |
| [20:24:00] | nick01: | what's that ? |
| [20:24:00] | Beirdo: | if you install a new package, read the manual before asking questions that are covered in the manual |
| [20:24:00] | ivor: | Jelte: nah that doesn't parse nicely. |
| [20:24:00] | nick01: | it didn't come with a manual |
| [20:24:00] | Beirdo: | sure it did |
| [20:24:00] | nick01: | man page ? |
| [20:24:00] | nick01: | oh no |
| [20:25:00] | ivor: | nick01: didn't you read an installation guide to get started? |
| [20:25:00] | Beirdo: | go to www.mythtv.org |
| [20:25:00] | nick01: | I hate those |
| [20:25:00] | Beirdo: | and go read the documentation |
| [20:25:00] | ** jhoke slaps himself on the forehead ** | |
| [20:25:00] | jhoke: | "I hate those" ... famous last words |
| [20:26:00] | Jelte: | nick01: , if you dont like man pages, you wont like mythtv.... |
| [20:26:00] | jhoke: | (right after ..."What does this button do?") |
| [20:26:00] | nick01: | lol |
| [20:27:00] | nick01: | http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall |
| [20:27:00] | nick01: | that's a huge check list |
| [20:27:00] | nick01: | and section I should focus on ? |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | start at the beginning, read to the end |
| [20:28:00] | nick01: | lol |
| [20:28:00] | nick01: | no need to |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | or until your questions are answered |
| [20:28:00] | nick01: | I'm not comnpiling |
| [20:28:00] | nick01: | compiling |
| [20:28:00] | nick01: | u're being very unhelpful |
| [20:28:00] | Jelte: | your not compiling?? oohhh in that case you are right... everything should just work out of the box.... infact, i'm surprised you had to install something :-P |
| [20:29:00] | Beirdo: | RTFM. there is no excuse for asking questions that the manual covers |
| [20:29:00] | Jelte: | hehe... seriously nick01, you wanna read up on the installation guides first to work out how it all fits together |
| [20:29:00] | nick01: | I used something called a package |
| [20:29:00] | Beirdo: | good for you |
| [20:29:00] | Jelte: | nope, you need to read the manual |
| [20:29:00] | nick01: | does this thing need mysql ? |
| [20:30:00] | Beirdo: | RTFM |
| [20:30:00] | nick01: | I AM |
| [20:30:00] | Jelte: | nick01: what starts with R and ends with TFM ? |
| [20:30:00] | Beirdo: | then you know the answer is yes |
| [20:30:00] | nick01: | can't I use my tv tuner without the damn database ? |
| [20:30:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [20:31:00] | ** laga rotfls ** | |
| [20:31:00] | laga: | this is some great entertainment ;) |
| [20:31:00] | nick01: | I'm glad u're enjoying it |
| [20:31:00] | laga: | well, i'm bored. |
| [20:31:00] | laga: | i could just read the manual, but i've already done that... |
| [20:31:00] | ** laga hides ** | |
| [20:32:00] | Jelte: | haha |
| [20:32:00] | kormoc: | nick01, yes, you need the mysql database to use myth |
| [20:32:00] | nick01: | so I can't watch tv without installing mysql ? :| |
| [20:32:00] | laga: | nick01: not with mythtv. |
| [20:32:00] | kormoc: | nick01, you need a backend and a frontend to use myth |
| [20:32:00] | zuralin: | is it true the next version of mythtv will have an internal video player for non-nuv? removing the need for mplayer/xine |
| [20:32:00] | laga: | zuralin: this is already possible. |
| [20:32:00] | kormoc: | zuralin, it already does, set the mythvideo player to internal and it will play in the internal player |
| [20:32:00] | zuralin: | in 18.1? |
| [20:33:00] | laga: | zuralin: Internal, with a capital I |
| [20:33:00] | kormoc: | been that way for awhile |
| [20:33:00] | laga: | kormoc: ;) |
| [20:33:00] | zuralin: | damn i didnt know that |
| [20:33:00] | jhoke: | laga: when configuring the source, is it normal for lirc support to not enable itself? lirc is installed on my system |
| [20:33:00] | nick01: | laga, let's say I install a mysql package, will it then let me watch tv in peace ? |
| [20:33:00] | kormoc: | laga, I keep forgetting that :P |
| [20:33:00] | laga: | nick01: this. is. covered. in. the. fine. manual. |
| [20:33:00] | nick01: | LOL |
| [20:33:00] | zuralin: | is there any disadvantage in using the interal player? |
| [20:33:00] | laga: | kormoc: hehe, and you've told me yesterday ;) |
| [20:34:00] | kormoc: | nick01, you'd need to setup and configure mysql and all that, then setup the myth backend, and then the frontend, and then you could use myth to watch tv |
| [20:34:00] | laga: | zuralin: i've tried it with only a few files, and i think mplayer is more robust. i experienced some funkiness with files being played back at twice the speed |
| [20:34:00] | nick01: | grrr |
| [20:34:00] | zuralin: | laga, hrmph, alright.. thanks |
| [20:34:00] | kormoc: | nick01, you know, you don't have to use myth to watch tv, you can use other programs instead. |
| [20:35:00] | jhoke: | damn strange |
| [20:35:00] | laga: | zuralin: just give it a whirl |
| [20:35:00] | laga: | jhoke: well, it's probably in some odd location |
| [20:35:00] | nick01: | I want something that will work with lirc and somebody in this channel already gave me a lircrc file for my tv tuner to work with mythtv |
| [20:35:00] | laga: | jhoke: try --enable-lirc |
| [20:35:00] | zuralin: | i would but i dont have the box at this house.. waiting for my old man to get home |
| [20:36:00] | jhoke: | laga: did that... cant see a way to pass the path to it though |
| [20:36:00] | zuralin: | and i hate playing around with the settings because it is rock stable right now and my whole family uses it |
| [20:36:00] | Jelte: | hehehe.. well if you have that file, then you're off... forget the manual |
| [20:36:00] | laga: | jhoke: well, did you install lirc-devel or however it is called? |
| [20:36:00] | kormoc: | nick01, you're gonna have to do a bit of work to get myth working, it's all covered in the manual, the manual doesn't cover anything extra, you need everything it talks about. |
| [20:37:00] | jhoke: | laga: yes, but checking it over again.. ;) |
| [20:37:00] | laga: | jhoke: hehe |
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| [20:37:00] | nick01: | I think I've seen something somewhere about a knoppix mythtv ? |
| [20:37:00] | laga: | knoppmyth. |
| [20:38:00] | laga: | but with your attitude, it won't help you much. |
| [20:38:00] | nick01: | lol |
| [20:38:00] | nick01: | why not ? |
| [20:38:00] | Jelte: | starts with L and ends with AZY |
| [20:38:00] | jhoke: | feh... i am really hating atrpms right now |
| [20:38:00] | laga: | well, you refuse to read. |
| [20:39:00] | nick01: | read ? I thought the live cd idea is supposed to just work |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | comprehend your software first |
| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | otherwise you will just be back here daily harassing people when you don't understand stuff |
| [20:40:00] | FITH: | Heh, how do you know what CD to put in the drive (hint: reading)... how do you know what do to start the app when the CD loads (hint: reading) |
| [20:40:00] | nick01: | I'll understand the software just fine; I just don't like installing databases just to watch tv |
| [20:41:00] | Chutt: | then use another program to watch tv |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | then you aren't going to use MythTV |
| [20:41:00] | laga: | nick01: knoppmyth will use a database as well |
| [20:41:00] | nick01: | why not ? |
| [20:41:00] | nick01: | but I won't have to install it will I ? |
| [20:41:00] | ** Beirdo gets out the clue-by-four ** | |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | mythtv uses a database, it is NOT optional |
| [20:41:00] | ** NightBird tries to get mythtv to play an avi.. ** | |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | regardless of how you install it |
| [20:41:00] | FITH: | Chutt: I don't like having to push buttons to watch TV... please implement mind control in the next release.. (Ha! :) |
| [20:42:00] | nick01: | I don't care if it uses it or not I just don't wanna mess with it |
| [20:42:00] | Jelte: | nick01: , install XP and run the software that came with your tuner... done... |
| [20:42:00] | nick01: | where do I find that knoppmyth ? is it on distrowatch ? |
| [20:42:00] | Jelte: | |
| [20:42:00] | ivor: | google: knoppmyth |
| [20:42:00] | nick01: | k |
| [20:43:00] | nick01: | lol @ Jelte |
| [20:43:00] | Jelte: | ivor: he can't google... requires him to read the results... |
| [20:43:00] | laga: | ivor: i'm afraid he won't like the reading involved in googling |
| [20:43:00] | laga: | darn, jelte beat me to it |
| [20:43:00] | nick01: | hahah |
| [20:43:00] | Jelte: | ;-) |
| [20:44:00] | ivor: | oh ok a "one click install" style link then: http://www.mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html |
| [20:45:00] | ** Beirdo clicks on ivor. You're not installing! ** | |
| [20:45:00] | ivor: | trust me, you don't want to install me. |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:45:00] | Jelte: | right.. so has anyone used anything else than a PC as a FE? i mean like that roky photobridge i was one about |
| [20:46:00] | ivor: | lots of people have used all sorts of things just search the mailing list. |
| [20:46:00] | jhoke: | laga: TY again for the help :) |
| [20:46:00] | ivor: | hauppauge mvp's and Xbox's are two of the favourites |
| [20:46:00] | laga: | jhoke: no problem ;) |
| [20:46:00] | ** Beirdo remembers he has meeting minutes that were supposed to have been typed in on Monday ** | |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | ooooops |
| [20:47:00] | Jelte: | just wondered if there was anyone here who'd fouch for something being THE thing.... if not, i'm gonna get me one of those roky machines i think |
| [20:47:00] | Jelte: | hmmm xbox... now there's another thought |
| [20:47:00] | nick01: | knoppmyth sais I still need a backend and database- does that mean they're not on the cd ? |
| [20:47:00] | Jelte: | got one somewhere under a layer of dust |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | xbox is relatively widely done |
| [20:47:00] | jhoke: | so when I configure it looks like the only things not enabled are jack, "XvMC VLD" (and pro) as well as direct FB ... sound about right? |
| [20:47:00] | ** laga slaps nick01 ** | |
| [20:47:00] | nick01: | :P |
| [20:48:00] | nick01: | laga, well ? |
| [20:48:00] | Jelte: | aah.. nah, the photobridge is better... for one the xbox doesnt fit in my tv stand, and no IR |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | nick01: if you weren't such good entertainment.... |
| [20:48:00] | nick01: | hehe |
| [20:48:00] | laga: | Beirdo: almost better than spongebob |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:48:00] | ** jhoke shows nick01 the alphabet. These things strung together form words.. reading is Fundamental ** | |
| [20:48:00] | Jelte: | entertainment value is rapidly dropping though |
| [20:49:00] | nick01: | If you are running KnoppMyth as your backend server, Then on the backend: |
| [20:49:00] | Jelte: | i know!! nick01, you still live at home? maybe mummie will do the reading, installation and setup for you? |
| [20:49:00] | nick01: | that means knoppmyth can be both front and backend ? |
| [20:49:00] | ivor: | nick01: http://mysettopbox.tv/doc.html |
| [20:49:00] | ivor: | nick01: start at the top |
| [20:49:00] | ivor: | nick01: and read to the bottom |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | once again. RTFM :) |
| [20:49:00] | jhoke: | w00t now lets see if it compiles w/out issues :) |
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| [20:50:00] | jhoke: | Beirdo, you are hoping for a miracle arent you? |
| [20:50:00] | nick01: | some crappy support channel this is ... |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | nick01: we aren't here to handhold you when people wrote perfectly useful documents |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | help yourself FIRST |
| [20:51:00] | Juski: | just say what I always say.. what do you expect for free (as in beer) ? |
| [20:51:00] | Jelte: | Beirdo: , eew that sounds nasty ;-) |
| [20:51:00] | jhoke: | nick01: trust me this is NOT a crappy support channel, they have helped me A LOT... but they do expect a certain amount of prerequisite knowleged and at least an ATTEMPT to understand the software |
| [20:51:00] | ivor: | "<nick01> some crappy support channel this is ..." |
| [20:51:00] | nick01: | right, why come here to get a nice one sentence answer when u can go online and read a 300 page manual :P |
| [20:51:00] | ** ivor scrolls back ** | |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | or at least to read the documentation once you're told to :) |
| [20:51:00] | ivor: | as far as I can see every question you've asked has been answered |
| [20:51:00] | ivor: | even with helpful links. |
| [20:52:00] | nick01: | nope |
| [20:52:00] | ivor: | would you prefer a more traditional support line style? |
| [20:52:00] | jhoke: | nick, give a man a fish and he will eat for a night... teach them how to read teh fucking manuals and they will learn how to build a better net and feed themselves and make a profit selling fish |
| [20:52:00] | ivor: | we can do that too. |
| [20:52:00] | Juski: | have you tried rebooting? |
| [20:52:00] | nick01: | when I asked about the databese if I need it u said RTFM |
| [20:52:00] | ** ivor starts playing muzak at nick01 ** | |
| [20:52:00] | Jelte: | oh christ.. that's it... /ignore nick01 |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | you want crappy support... Try #linux |
| [20:52:00] | nick01: | lol |
| [20:52:00] | laga: | hi Juski |
| [20:52:00] | nick01: | now U're funny |
| [20:52:00] | ivor: | nah for really crappy support he should try #mythtv |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | you OBVIOUSLY had never read the documentation. You need to. |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | there's no alternative |
| [20:52:00] | Juski: | hi laga... had a good week? |
| [20:52:00] | jhoke: | nick, you were told 4 times a DB was MANIDORY... you then bitched that you didnt want a DB to watch tv |
| [20:53:00] | jhoke: | feh! |
| [20:53:00] | nick01: | and I don't have a right to complain ... |
| [20:53:00] | jhoke: | complain about what? |
| [20:53:00] | nick01: | the damn database |
| [20:53:00] | laga: | Juski: yeah, could have been worse ;). did you enjoy yours? |
| [20:53:00] | jhoke: | that Myth uses a db? No you actually dont |
| [20:53:00] | jhoke: | :) |
| [20:54:00] | Juski: | laga – been editing video all week – very arduous task – turning 5 hours of camcorder footage into a watchable holiday video – not mine I hasten to add lol |
| [20:54:00] | drose: | anyone here using a PVR-350 w/ tv out and X11 ? |
| [20:54:00] | Jelte: | Juski: , what d'you use for the editing? i love editing video.. it rocks ;-) |
| [20:54:00] | laga: | Juski: hehe, nice :) sounds exhausting, though |
| [20:54:00] | jhoke: | complaint forms must be filled out at the main office in triplicate and folded very tightly with sharp corners... and shoved |
| [20:54:00] | Juski: | Jelte – Sony Vegas :) |
| [20:55:00] | Juski: | the only software I need to keep w****** on my desktop for |
| [20:55:00] | jhoke: | feh |
| [20:55:00] | jhoke: | compilation puked. |
| [20:55:00] | jhoke: | bbiab |
| [20:55:00] | Jelte: | you seen mainactor 5 ? |
| [20:55:00] | Jelte: | tried it once yonks back.. but wasn't too impressed at the time |
| [20:55:00] | Juski: | no, Jelte. I'll stick with what I paid big bucks for |
| [20:56:00] | nick01: | k- I'll try the knoppix thing though I predict some problems |
| [20:56:00] | Jelte: | hehe fair point ;-) |
| [20:56:00] | Jelte: | nick01: so do we |
| [20:56:00] | Jelte: | if you dont read the bleeding documentation |
| [20:56:00] | Juski: | I tried Premiere – found it to be harder to use & slower than the Fisher Price editing package called MovieStudio |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | nick01: if you're gonna just keep bitching, you'll get NO support |
| [20:57:00] | Juski: | but I took to Vegas like a fish to wet stuff :) |
| [20:57:00] | nick01: | heh ... ok ok- I'll do some reading too :D |
| [20:58:00] | drose: | anyone know how to fix overscan on X11 with tvout? |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | I think that's X driver-dependant |
| [20:59:00] | Juski: | oh wow... my patch was incorporated (woohoo) |
| [20:59:00] | Juski: | drose – if you're using nvidia... use nvidia-settings :) |
| [20:59:00] | drose: | nope, i'm using pvr-350's tv out |
| [21:01:00] | drose: | juski: does ivtv control the X11 dimensions or is it strictly the xorg.conf file with HTimings and VTimings? |
| [21:01:00] | jhoke: | heh... forgot a devel package... see, RTFM sometimes works ;) |
| [21:01:00] | Juski: | drose – I have no idea about ivtv.. literally (I don't have any Hauppauge hardware) |
| [21:03:00] | drose: | juski, thx |
| [21:03:00] | Juski: | drose – you getting too much overscan? AFAIK the resolution etc is set to the required timings for PAL or NTSC by the output encoder & there's no way to change it – BUT you can change mythtv to use different areas of the screen |
| [21:03:00] | jhoke: | any bets on the next place the compliation bombs out because I am missing a dev package? :) |
| [21:05:00] | ** Juski wonders how hard it would be to make a gui setup screen similar to the one in XBMC... moving arrows to set the corners of the screen... ** | |
| [21:08:00] | drose: | juski: yes, i am getting too much overscan. My linux desktop doesnt fit on the tv screen...i can adjust myth fine, but I'd really like to have the X11 fit |
| [21:08:00] | Juski: | ugh.. X on TV |
| [21:08:00] | drose: | juski: so adjusting xorg.conf timings wont change? |
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| [21:08:00] | Juski: | don't quote me, drose – but I seriously doubt it |
| [21:08:00] | drose: | I've tried, but it doesn't seem to make any difference...it's almost like it overrides it |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | <Juski> +don't quote me, drose – but I seriously doubt it |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | I just quoted you |
| [21:09:00] | Juski: | lol Beirdo |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | fuckin irssi putting + in there again |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | bish |
| [21:09:00] | jhoke: | lol |
| [21:10:00] | nick01: | I go for now, |
| [21:10:00] | nick01: | bye |
| [21:10:00] | nick01 (n=nick01@home-07031.b.astral.ro) Quit ("Leaving") | |
| [21:11:00] | Beirdo: | don't let the door hit your ass on the way out |
| [21:11:00] | jhoke: | Thwap! |
| [21:11:00] | Jelte: | dont worry.. he'll be back... sigh |
| [21:11:00] | ** Jelte rolls his eyes ** | |
| [21:11:00] | jhoke: | bah |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | haven't had a clue-resistant one like that in a while |
| [21:12:00] | jhoke: | I'm sorry, I am a relative newbie to this as well, but the least a person can do is make an *attempt* at reading the docs before asking questions ... jeeesh |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | yeah. |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | especially after the 10th time you're told |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:12:00] | jhoke: | but I still reserve the right to ask n00b questions... :) |
| [21:13:00] | Beirdo: | but of course |
| [21:13:00] | jhoke: | heh |
| [21:13:00] | Jelte: | jhoke you're less of a newbie than i am... i haven't even downloaded mythtv yet... but i do research before hand... and ask questions to which i cant find answers.... expecting the world, without any effort deserves a spanking |
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| [21:14:00] | Juski: | the same is true for all software – you should see the stupid (sometimes ignorant) posts on tv-cards.com.. sweet jaaaaysoos |
| [21:14:00] | AppleBoy: | w00t, got my card :) |
| [21:14:00] | jhoke: | Jelte: ya know... I would rather take him and do what we do to our daughter... we never spank her, but when she is bad we make her stand up and tell everyone why she is in trouble... fear of embarassement works wonders :) |
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| [21:15:00] | Jelte: | ehhehehe... i was slightly wondering where that remark was going... but thats a good one.. must remember that |
| [21:15:00] | jhoke: | woo! compile is done w/out errors |
| [21:15:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:15:00] | Beirdo: | the way that started had bad connotations for sure |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | you gotta remember geeks are in the gutter |
| [21:16:00] | jhoke: | LOL... twisted evil minds |
| [21:16:00] | Jelte: | ;-) |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | I would rather take him and do what we do to our daughter... |
| [21:16:00] | ** jhoke feels at home lol ** | |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [21:16:00] | ** jhoke slaps beirdo about the head with a large trout whilst singing Finnish songs ** | |
| [21:17:00] | jhoke: | er... a herring even |
| [21:17:00] | ** Beirdo sics the reindeer on jhoke ** | |
| [21:17:00] | jhoke: | eek! |
| [21:17:00] | jhoke: | ok... back to the install bbiab |
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| [21:19:00] | MReimer_: | Hello, what do you think how fast a machine has to be to run MythTV (backend *and* frontend, there will be no network!) if I use a mpeg decoding card. |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | decoding or encoding, or both? |
| [21:20:00] | MReimer_: | I want to listen to digital satellite TV with timeshifting and recording. |
| [21:21:00] | Juski: | MReimer: probably at least 800mhz.. less than that and it might struggle a bit |
| [21:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | If it's hardware decoding then cpu would be almost nill |
| [21:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Though Myth doesn't handle any of the FF dvb cards that have on board decoders+tvout |
| [21:22:00] | Juski: | DVB card & xvmc should be very useable |
| [21:22:00] | MReimer_: | Are there any graphic cards with built in mpeg decoder? |
| [21:23:00] | MReimer_: | I would try to use a dvb card with one built in CI slot. |
| [21:23:00] | Juski: | all the newer Nvidia (GF4 +) cards have hardware assist for decoding |
| [21:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | MReimer_: The nvidia cards have mpeg acelleration using xvmc |
| [21:23:00] | AppleBoy: | for i2c support in the kernel, do they have to be modules or is it ok to be built in? |
| [21:23:00] | MReimer_: | What is xvmc? Has that something to do with MythTV? |
| [21:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | MReimer_: It's an X extension similar to XV |
| [21:24:00] | Juski: | xvmc... X Video Motion Compensation isn't it? |
| [21:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | X Video Motion Compensation |
| [21:24:00] | Jelte: | see you guys later |
| [21:24:00] | MReimer_: | And MythTV doesn't support the decoder on the nvidia cards? |
| [21:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | Myth, if compiled to support it, can use xvmc and your video card to help do some of the mpeg decoding |
| [21:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yes it does |
| [21:26:00] | MReimer_: | So what about MythTV on my old 600 MHz box with one 120GB hard disk in it and let's say 256 MB RAM? |
| [21:26:00] | MReimer_: | Of course with an GF4 or FX5200 nvidia card in it. |
| [21:26:00] | ivor: | MReimer_: it'll suck. |
| [21:26:00] | fryfrog: | MReimer_: recording or viewing or both? |
| [21:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, xvmc doesn't do ALL of the mpeg decoding, but it might do the job id you are only watching standard def recordings |
| [21:26:00] | Juski: | it'll cope with recording just fine.. but playing back it might be sluggish |
| [21:26:00] | AppleBoy: | anybody here now what things need to be compiled into kernel for mythtv? or do you guys all use genkernels? |
| [21:27:00] | ivor: | the ui will be dog slow to use though |
| [21:27:00] | fryfrog: | AppleBoy: nothing needs to be compiled in the kernel for myth |
| [21:27:00] | ** m4lu7 prefers popcornkernels ** | |
| [21:27:00] | Juski: | AppleBoy – nothing wrong with building I2C as a module (or anything else as a module) |
| [21:27:00] | fryfrog: | AppleBoy: you simply need to have support for items that myth depends on |
| [21:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | My P3 650 has no problem playing back my mpeg2 recordings without the use of xvmc, so if he IS using Xvmc I don't see it as a problem |
| [21:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | speed of the ui not withstanding |
| [21:28:00] | ivor: | GreyFoxx: don't you find the myth ui gets sluggish to navigate though? |
| [21:28:00] | fryfrog: | AppleBoy: so you'll want Alsa as a module, I2C as a module, perhaps your tv card (if it isn't ivtv) |
| [21:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | ivor: No |
| [21:28:00] | MReimer_: | What are the absolute minimum requirements if I want to run MythTV? I'll buy a mpeg decoder card if that helps to get the cpu as small as possible. |
| [21:28:00] | AppleBoy: | err, some things require things to be modules instead of builtin. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Setup_MythTV <-- what I'm following |
| [21:28:00] | Cardoe: | oh dear god |
| [21:28:00] | Cardoe: | someone busted out that wiki |
| [21:28:00] | AppleBoy: | ?? |
| [21:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | ivor: except there is a noticable lag if I've compiled myth with debug enabled :) |
| [21:28:00] | Cardoe: | quick... cover it up. |
| [21:28:00] | fryfrog: | AppleBoy: are you a new gentoo user? |
| [21:28:00] | Cardoe: | AppleBoy: don't listen to that crap about the kernel in there. |
| [21:28:00] | AppleBoy: | no |
| [21:28:00] | AppleBoy: | ok |
| [21:28:00] | fryfrog: | cool :) |
| [21:29:00] | Cardoe: | AppleBoy: make a regular kernel |
| [21:29:00] | AppleBoy: | fryfrog: I love gentoo :) |
| [21:29:00] | ivor: | GreyFoxx: heh which is all the time since I want to get backtraces. :) |
| [21:29:00] | Cardoe: | AppleBoy: add i2c as module |
| [21:29:00] | Cardoe: | AppleBoy: add alsa as a module |
| [21:29:00] | Cardoe: | AppleBoy: that's it. |
| [21:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | ivor: I have 4 frontends, I don'y compile all of them with debug symbols enabled :) |
| [21:29:00] | fryfrog: | yeah, and don't forget the alsa driver for your card :) |
| [21:29:00] | ivor: | :) I have just the one. |
| [21:30:00] | fryfrog: | actually, you'll need V4L prolly too |
| [21:30:00] | ivor: | been meaning to setup some testing ones though. really ought to get around to it |
| [21:30:00] | AppleBoy: | fryfrog: got the 3000 :) |
| [21:30:00] | fryfrog: | and if your card is supported by a kernel driver, that too |
| [21:30:00] | fryfrog: | ah, i see |
| [21:30:00] | AppleBoy: | can't wait to test the HD functionality |
| [21:30:00] | fryfrog: | i don't recall where its driver comes from :) |
| [21:30:00] | MReimer_: | I want to use any old PC to use it as "comfort receiver" for dvb. I want to keep the machine as slow as possible to not have to much power consumption. |
| [21:30:00] | fryfrog: | OTA or QAM? |
| [21:30:00] | fryfrog: | MReimer_: money being a big object or not so big? |
| [21:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | MReimer_: Will that box EVER play anything but recordings? Like Xvid/Divx stuff you have downloaded, or wil lyou EVER convert your recordings to another format and want to play them back? If so then the mpeg accelleration wont help and if you don't have enough CPU you wont be able to play them |
| [21:31:00] | Juski: | MReimer – you'd probably get less power consumption with something newer to be honest |
| [21:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | power consumption on the new AMD64's is insanely low |
| [21:32:00] | MReimer_: | My CPU is fast enough to play DivX. I won't convert recordings on *that* machine. It's only my "receiver". If I want to cut or edit the recordings I copy them to my faster "working machine". |
| [21:32:00] | fryfrog: | MReimer_: one of the pentium M or turion cpus might be nice |
| [21:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | MReimer_: I'm not talking about enough cpu to do the conversion. I'm talking about enough to playback the video. |
| [21:32:00] | MReimer_: | fryfrog: If possible I want to use a second hand machine. |
| [21:32:00] | fryfrog: | ah, gotcah |
| [21:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | I find anything slower than a 600Mhz has a HARD time playing back any xvid/divx recording |
| [21:33:00] | fryfrog: | 600mhz should be find for a backend |
| [21:33:00] | fryfrog: | especially if you never use it for a frontend |
| [21:33:00] | MReimer_: | GreyFoxx: If I play dvb (which is mpeg 2) then this job should be done by the hardware decoder, right? |
| [21:33:00] | Juski: | MReimer: the hardware HELPS.. it doesn't do it all |
| [21:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | MReimer_: It would be helped by the hardware decoder. The decoder wont be doing all of it |
| [21:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | And if you try to play another format (such as mpeg4) then it wont do any of it |
| [21:34:00] | MReimer_: | I can play DivX with that machine (currently I use Xine for playing video). I don't know if I need more speed for Mpeg4. |
| [21:34:00] | AppleBoy: | for the 3000, do I need to have ivtv? or is that only for the 2/350? |
| [21:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | MReimer_: Divx is a mpeg4 format |
| [21:34:00] | MReimer_: | Then my machine is fast enough for that ;-) |
| [21:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | AppleBoy: ivtv is not for the hd3000 |
| [21:36:00] | MReimer_: | What is the "slowest" hardware tested by the users in this chatroom? |
| [21:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | People don't usually try for the slowest :) They find what works and stay there :) |
| [21:36:00] | AppleBoy: | what all is needed for the 3000? |
| [21:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | But for me the lowest I use is a 650 as a frontend |
| [21:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | I briefly used a P166, but I had a hardware decoder in there doing ALL mpeg2 decoding and the recording was on another machine |
| [21:37:00] | AppleBoy: | aww come on, who made the wiki and didn't even put in proper rewrite rules? |
| [21:38:00] | MReimer_: | So I'll try to find something about 700 or 800 MHz on Ebay and will use an GeForce 4 card in there. |
| [21:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | MReimer_: That would probably be fine |
| [21:39:00] | MReimer_: | Another question: There are BIOSes that support to "auto boot" the PC on a specified time. Is this supported by MythTV? Is it possible to shutdown the machine and let it "auto boot" if a recording has to be done? |
| [21:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Myth will yes, but I've never used any of that |
| [21:40:00] | LasseL: | I can playback divx alright on my 433mzh celeron |
| [21:40:00] | MReimer_: | Sounds nice. Where can I find this "auto boot" feature in the feature list? |
| [21:40:00] | LasseL: | (on w2k) |
| [21:40:00] | MReimer_: | Then I need a board with an BIOS that supports this feature... |
| [21:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | MReimer_: No idea. I don't use it |
| [21:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | You will have to go look for it :) |
| [21:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or read the section of the mythtv.org docs : http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.6 |
| [21:41:00] | AppleBoy: | so, what all is needed for the 3000 kernel wise?? |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | AppleBoy: WTF are you talking about? |
| [21:45:00] | AppleBoy: | driver |
| [21:46:00] | MReimer_: | GreyFoxx Yes, that's it. That would be great. The box only needs power if I really watch TV. If a recording has to be done it auto boots and after recording it is shutting down again. *Cool*. |
| [21:46:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | so specific |
| [21:47:00] | ** jhoke giggles ** | |
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| [22:21:00] | jhoke: | woo! compliation complete, functional and quite interesting ;) |
| [22:22:00] | jhoke: | need to find the docs (if any) on the new features |
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| [23:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, are you around? |
| [23:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am trying to figure out why when I transcode videos as you do that they play in a smaller window? it does not play them in fullscreen after transcoding |
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| [23:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes. |
| [23:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Mine are still full-screen. |
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| [23:57:00] | ehaase: | i scheduled a recording, do i need to leave mythtvfrontend on in order for it to record? |
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