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Wednesday, September 28th, 2005, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:00] Beirdo: so?
[00:00:00] Beirdo: it will still run 2.4
[00:00:00] Beirdo: in 32 bit mode
[00:00:00] SlicerDicer-: well I am not running in 32bit mode am i?
[00:00:00] SlicerDicer-: nor do I want to :)
[00:00:00] SlicerDicer-: so its not a option
[00:00:00] Beirdo: well maybe you should while burning DVDs
[00:00:00] Beirdo: silly
[00:00:00] Beirdo: then boot back into your normal kernel when you're done
[00:00:00] Beirdo: until you find a proper fix :)
[00:01:00] Beirdo: save you making coasters :)
[00:01:00] SlicerDicer-: not really a option
[00:01:00] kormoc: Beirdo, too bad you're not on 2.6 so I can poke your kernel config about :P
[00:01:00] Beirdo: enjoy your coasters then :)
[00:01:00] SlicerDicer-: all my libs are 64bit just booting a kernel is not viable
[00:01:00] Beirdo: kormoc: I use 2.6 on a lot of things, just not the machine that does my burning
[00:01:00] Beirdo: heh
[00:02:00] Beirdo: mainly because the author of cdrecord's a dick and won't cooperate with kernel devs, I think
[00:02:00] Beirdo: that's why there are so many issues
[00:03:00] SlicerDicer-: really helps the image of linux going mainstream dont it? cant burn dvds without your system making coasters and going batshit yay?
[00:03:00] Beirdo: I'm sure you can if you put it into scsi emulation mode still
[00:04:00] Beirdo: I know xris fought with it all for a while
[00:04:00] kormoc: Beirdo, scsi-emulaition in 2.6.x isn't the best to be honest.
[00:04:00] Krazylegz: ide-scsi?
[00:04:00] Beirdo: yeah
[00:04:00] SlicerDicer-: Beirdo, it causes more than its worth
[00:04:00] Beirdo: it's flawless in 2.4
[00:04:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer, do you have packet writing support enabled in your kernel?
[00:05:00] kormoc: as well as what's your hdparm settings for the dvd drive?
[00:05:00] SlicerDicer-: they are normal
[00:05:00] SlicerDicer-: for dvd drive anyway
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[00:06:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer, DMA is enabled and it's uata 66?
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[00:07:00] xris: Beirdo: I haven't had any trouble with an internal drive and k3b
[00:07:00] Beirdo: ah, you were with external drive?
[00:07:00] xris: supposedly new versions of 2.6 fix the external-drive issues.
[00:07:00] xris: emphasis on "was"... too much hassle, so I installed it internally
[00:07:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
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[00:07:00] xris: but since then it's supposedly fixed.
[00:07:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc, apparently not set to uata66
[00:08:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc, dma is not even set :/
[00:08:00] kormoc: I'd set them both on and see if that helps
[00:08:00] SlicerDicer-: hell I cant remember how to do that haha
[00:08:00] Beirdo: man hdparm :)
[00:08:00] SlicerDicer-: Beirdo, enough already
[00:08:00] kormoc: hdparm d1 -X66 /dev/hdc
[00:08:00] kormoc: erm
[00:08:00] kormoc: hdparm -d1 -X66 /dev/hdc
[00:09:00] Beirdo: SlicerDicer-: eat me, like you didn't expect that answer
[00:09:00] sputnik: hey, i'm running into trouble with transcoding
[00:09:00] sputnik: output from my pvr250 won't transcode
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[00:09:00] SlicerDicer-: Beirdo, I can handle alot but you have done nothing but throw trash at me that is useless for my problem... I am a perfectly decent guy and I can put up with alot of bullshit but enough is enough
[00:10:00] sputnik: tells me that "ac-tex damaged at 19 10" and "Warning MVs not available"
[00:10:00] sputnik: anyone seen this before?
[00:10:00] Beirdo: SlicerDicer-: 1) saying to use 2.4 is not useless for your problem. 2) YOU are the one asking for help that is way off topic here 3) you decided to say that you don't know how to do something that the manpage clearly tells you. get a clue
[00:13:00] simon_c_home: Ahhhh Ha !!
[00:13:00] simon_c_home: got it. !!
[00:14:00] SlicerDicer-: Beirdo, well 2.4 is useless as you would note I run AMD64 and all my libs are 64bit how in sam hell do you expect a 32bit kernel to run that? I would have to do another install of linux its not viable on this system its useless
[00:14:00] Beirdo: sputnik: I believe those are common when there are slight glitches in an MPEG file. I think the errors are actually being generated by the ffmpeg libavcodec library
[00:14:00] sputnik: Beirdo any known workarounds?
[00:14:00] Beirdo: sputnik: if the recording is damaged, it's damaged, not much can be done that I know of
[00:14:00] sputnik: oh, i should mention that transcoding fails
[00:14:00] simon_c_home: No need to send the remote out of the window on a catapult or balista or any other kind of medievel seigue device
[00:14:00] Beirdo: it should still play
[00:15:00] sputnik: it does play just fine
[00:15:00] sputnik: but i'd like to archive some of these recordings, but not in mpeg2 :)
[00:15:00] Beirdo: hmm, dunno, I'd think it should transcode OK, but I don't use the builtin transcode, so I dunno
[00:15:00] simon_c_home: the definations in /etc/lircd.conf were suronded by ' characters. the definations in ~/lircrc weren't !!
[00:15:00] Beirdo: have you tried using nuvexport at all?
[00:15:00] SlicerDicer-: Beirdo, ok you know what I am not going to argue the point with you and turn this into a flame fest.
[00:16:00] sputnik: Beirdo: shouldn't need to. the card i'm using writes directly to mpeg2
[00:16:00] sputnik: (hauppauge pvr250)
[00:16:00] Chutt: who's this mythtv@remars.com idiot?
[00:16:00] Beirdo: that's right you're not... :) because I'm not arguing with you. You're being silly and off-topic and taking offense when you get bitched at.
[00:16:00] Beirdo: sputnik: nuvexport can convert your MPEG2 to other formats
[00:17:00] sputnik: oh, can it....? hmm
[00:17:00] Beirdo: yeah :)
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[00:17:00] sputnik: how does nuvexport fit into mythtv?
[00:18:00] Beirdo: it's an external script that uses ffmpeg or transcode
[00:18:00] sputnik: should it be called by mtd?
[00:18:00] Beirdo: it gets called from a shell
[00:19:00] sputnik: so once i call it, how do i tell mythtv where to find the new files?
[00:20:00] sputnik: or should i name the new files the same as the old?
[00:20:00] Beirdo: well, it's more meant for external archiving
[00:20:00] Beirdo: but you should be able to put the files in after.
[00:20:00] sputnik: hmm.
[00:21:00] Beirdo: the built-in one would likely be a better choice is you are planning to keep the recordings in myth
[00:21:00] Beirdo: but obviously you have a glitch :)
[00:21:00] sputnik: if i can get the built in one to work :)
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[00:32:00] sputnik: hmm, mythtranscode fails when run from the command line, too
[00:32:00] CanadaBoy: anyone here useing xbox frontend?
[00:32:00] sputnik: says it ran out of video buffers
[00:32:00] Keith: hey whenever i go to the program guide or the program selection list and select a program, and finish setting the recording settings and hit save these settings, it refuses to actually save the settings and mark the item as scheduled to be recorded
[00:33:00] Keith: can anyone help me out htere? its weird because it worked sundayn ight
[00:33:00] Keith: but notnow
[00:36:00] Keith: ?
[00:37:00] MrSpiffy: hm
[00:37:00] MrSpiffy: Keith, first of all is mythbackend and mysql running?
[00:37:00] Keith: yes
[00:38:00] Keith: mysql should be running automatically
[00:38:00] Keith: i forget even how to start it up cause im used to it starting up automatically
[00:38:00] Keith: mythbackend was definately running
[00:38:00] Keith: cause i can watch tv and i load it first
[00:38:00] MrSpiffy: ok makes sense
[00:38:00] MrSpiffy: what distribution of linux are you running?
[00:39:00] Keith: ubuntu
[00:39:00] MrSpiffy: ok – not my piece of pie
[00:39:00] Keith: how do i test to see if mysql is runnning
[00:39:00] MrSpiffy: use
[00:39:00] Keith: heres the thing spiffy- it worked up until sunday night
[00:39:00] Keith: and then i didnt use it monday
[00:39:00] MrSpiffy: ps -ax | grep mysqld
[00:39:00] Keith: and now today it refuses to record
[00:39:00] MrSpiffy: I hear you
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[00:40:00] CanadaBoy: anyone here useing xbox frontend?
[00:40:00] MrSpiffy: the frontend would not start if it could not contact the mysql databse
[00:40:00] Keith: what would it say if its running?
[00:40:00] Keith: oh
[00:40:00] Keith: then yeah mysql is def runnin
[00:40:00] MrSpiffy: hmm
[00:40:00] Keith: g
[00:40:00] Keith: cause the frontend works fine
[00:40:00] Keith: but the thing refuses to save my recording settings
[00:41:00] MrSpiffy: the ps -ax command above will list the mysqld processess running
[00:41:00] MrSpiffy: btw
[00:41:00] MrSpiffy: ok – can you see the recording from the menu – manage recordings, upcoming?
[00:42:00] Keith: ok
[00:42:00] Keith: let me check
[00:42:00] Keith: it says i havent scheduled any upcoming recordings
[00:42:00] MrSpiffy: ok – then it is at least consistent
[00:43:00] MrSpiffy: intead of using the guide have you tried to schedule a recording form that menu? (I'm just looking for a clue as to what is didfferent)
[00:43:00] Keith: how you mean?
[00:43:00] Keith: you mean program finder?
[00:43:00] Keith: yea
[00:43:00] Keith: still doesnt work
[00:44:00] MrSpiffy: hmm
[00:44:00] MrSpiffy: ok – without any log info it is hard to figure out where it is going bad
[00:45:00] MrSpiffy: run mythfrontend from command line so we can see what it is doing
[00:45:00] Keith: you mean backedn
[00:45:00] Keith: i do run it command line
[00:45:00] MrSpiffy: oh
[00:45:00] MrSpiffy: nothing on the console?
[00:45:00] Keith: et me check
[00:45:00] Keith: it does say something weird when i go to schedule something
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[00:45:00] Keith: im going to schedule a random program to get it
[00:45:00] Keith: im typing to you on a different computer
[00:45:00] Keith: because of my current setup, its hard for me to talk on another one
[00:45:00] Keith: i mean the mythbox one
[00:46:00] Keith: ok heres what it says more or less
[00:46:00] Keith: resechedule requested for id 75
[00:46:00] smoke_: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2005/01/27/freevo.html
[00:46:00] Keith: scheduled 0 items in 0.0 = 0.1 match 0.0 place
[00:47:00] Keith: thats all
[00:47:00] smoke_: the dude says its stuipid to run xwindows on his tv.... i somewhat get his point, but it cant be all that true?
[00:47:00] Keith: and 75 becomes 76 if i try it again
[00:47:00] Keith: etc etc
[00:47:00] MrSpiffy: scheduled 0 items in 0.0 = 0.1 match 0.0 place
[00:47:00] MrSpiffy: no shit
[00:48:00] Keith: any idea?
[00:48:00] MrSpiffy: googleing
[00:48:00] MrSpiffy: that msg brings up a bunch of hits
[00:49:00] MrSpiffy: first one points to perms
[00:49:00] Keith: perms?
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[00:50:00] hfghfh: hi, all
[00:50:00] Keith: what do you mean by perms mr spiffyh?
[00:50:00] sphing: permissions
[00:50:00] hfghfh: does anyone know how to setup mythfrontend to correctly use the alsa mixer
[00:50:00] sphing: you need to set it up using the alsa output
[00:51:00] sphing: i think its like alsa:/dev/dsp
[00:51:00] sphing: but i dont alsa so i'm not sure
[00:51:00] hfghfh: ah, thanks i will try that
[00:51:00] hfghfh: i want to use it since i supports multiple audiostreams
[00:52:00] Keith: so mr spiffy what can i do to make sure that myth has the correct permissions to schedule the recording?
[00:52:00] sputnik: FFS.
[00:52:00] sputnik: transcode wasn't installed. that would do it, no?
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[00:54:00] MrSpiffy: Keith, just a gues so far – not sure I would fille with it yet – but as a test you could stop mythbackend and frontend and run them both as root.
[00:55:00] Keith: i run backend as root
[00:55:00] Keith: frontend as normal
[00:55:00] Keith: all the itme
[00:55:00] Keith: no problems to date
[00:55:00] Keith: i will restart all now
[00:55:00] hfghfh: nope, i still complains about the mixer. I have got the alsa audio out to work, and i get sound. but it can not find or use the mixer. so does anyony more have any ideas to what i should enter instead of /dev/mixer
[00:56:00] Keith: testing now MrSpiffy
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[00:57:00] Keith: sam thing
[00:57:00] Keith: reschedule for 76
[00:57:00] Keith: i ran frontend and backend as sudo too
[00:59:00] Keith: MrSpiffy, no good :-/
[00:59:00] Keith: any other ideas?
[01:00:00] MrSpiffy: Keith, 2 long shots then
[01:00:00] Keith: ILL take whatever shots i can get
[01:01:00] MrSpiffy: Keith, perhaps it's the mysql db – write perms on it? (guess)
[01:01:00] MrSpiffy: Keith, as a test try mythfilldatabase
[01:01:00] MrSpiffy: that will pull data from zap2it and write to the db (different table of course)
[01:02:00] Keith: i did mythfilldatabase today
[01:02:00] Keith: and it worked fine
[01:03:00] Keith: ill run it again fi you want
[01:03:00] Keith: double check for possible errors
[01:03:00] Keith: yeah its pulling the db from the internet now
[01:04:00] hfghfh: I found it, to use the alsa mixer you only has to replace "/dev/mixer" with "default" and then the audio controls work again.
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[01:05:00] MrSpiffy: Keith, sorry but I'm out of ideas
[01:06:00] Keith: damn
[01:06:00] Keith: thanks anyway
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[01:15:00] CanadaBoy: anyone here useing xbox frontend?
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[01:17:00] foampeace: hi
[01:17:00] foampeace: trying to get myth tv to work in ubuntu
[01:18:00] ** rjune is away: dinner **
[01:18:00] foampeace: do i just run as a reg user?
[01:20:00] foampeace: sh-3.00$ mythtv-setup
[01:20:00] foampeace: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[01:20:00] foampeace: Xlib: No protocol specified
[01:20:00] foampeace: mythtv-setup: cannot connect to X server :0.0
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[01:21:00] sphing: foampeace: you're your magic cookie is wrong and/or you need to run mythtv-setup as whomever started X
[01:22:00] foampeace: how do i do the magic cookie?
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[01:23:00] PatrickDK: hmm?
[01:23:00] PatrickDK: all you have to do is set DISPLAY=
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[01:24:00] foampeace: in the bashrc?
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[01:39:00] Krazylegz: He done blowed himself up.
[01:42:00] sphing: lol
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[01:44:00] xris: (totally off-topic) w00t... http://blog.dreamhost.com/2005/07/22/servers-by-the-pound/
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[01:46:00] sphing: xris: thats funny... that just happened to me an hour ago
[01:46:00] xris: sphing: ?
[01:46:00] sphing: my roommate told me to get it out of the living room... craziest thing
[01:46:00] sphing: i also got $60,000 of servers delievered to my house
[01:46:00] xris: haha
[01:47:00] xris: actually, we sell the servers, not receive them.
[01:47:00] xris: just nice to see our stuff going to good homes.
[01:47:00] PatrickDK: hmm, I have $20000 in 2 servers
[01:47:00] xris: nothing compares to the $250k rack we built for MIT a couple of months ago
[01:48:00] xris: that was 4 servers (well, two full blade servers, so technically 30 separate machines) and a bunch of drives.
[01:48:00] xris: rack worth more than my house... just scary
[01:48:00] PatrickDK: heh, mine are just 2 2u servers
[01:48:00] PatrickDK: with crazy drive arrays
[01:49:00] sphing: xris: that with or without the $60,000 of servers in your garage?
[01:49:00] kormoc: what type of drives and how many can you fit in a 2u to cost 10k?
[01:49:00] PatrickDK: have 2 1u servers also, but those are with normal drives, and for development
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[01:49:00] PatrickDK: kormoc, 7 72g 15k scsi drives, and 16g memory
[01:50:00] xris: sphing: *my* garage? I wish... couple of old p3's
[01:51:00] PatrickDK: heh, harddrives and memory are still expensive, for real servers
[01:51:00] xris: yeah.. no one understands why you'd pay extra for good memory instead of kingston/etc.
[01:51:00] PatrickDK: ya
[01:51:00] xris: drives are expensive only because you don't get rebates in bulk (well, or scsi, but fewer and fewer people are getting scsi these days)
[01:52:00] PatrickDK: and it all has to be ecc/registered
[01:52:00] PatrickDK: hmm, I wonder if they are making 15k 146g drives yet
[01:52:00] sphing: xris: i understand on a production server... in my house.. so that my fileserver is more stable... ill take the cheap stuff
[01:52:00] kormoc: that's only 3k for the drives (if ultra scsi 3) and $3200 for the ram (ecc/registered ddr 2100), what else is in there?
[01:53:00] PatrickDK: ultra scsi 3? no
[01:53:00] PatrickDK: u320 drives
[01:53:00] kormoc: u320 was ultra scsi 3 I thought?
[01:53:00] PatrickDK: hmm, 1k for the case
[01:54:00] PatrickDK: ultra scsi 3 is 80+
[01:54:00] PatrickDK: after 80, or normally use u160 or u320
[01:54:00] kormoc: btw, fujitsu is making 147 gb 25k rpm drives, been for awhile.
[01:54:00] kormoc: hrm, fair nuff
[01:54:00] PatrickDK: hmm, nice
[01:54:00] sphing: does anyone have a rack at there house?
[01:54:00] PatrickDK: sphing, yes
[01:54:00] kormoc: PatrickDK, 25k is 15k I mean
[01:54:00] sphing: .... damn thats pretty geeky
[01:54:00] ivor_: sphing: yes. :)
[01:55:00] sphing: lol.. awesome... i'd love to see the theif that breaks in... like wtf is this tower humming?
[01:55:00] sphing: thief*
[01:55:00] PatrickDK: hmm, I don't have the pictures of it online though :(
[01:56:00] DarkBeer: the only rack in my house is on my wife :P
[01:56:00] kormoc: DarkBeer, the best type...
[01:56:00] DarkBeer: amen
[01:56:00] sphing: touche
[01:56:00] DarkBeer: most useful too
[01:57:00] PatrickDK: kormac, at 2k for cpu's, 2k for case/motherboard, 3k memory, 3k drives
[01:57:00] kormoc: PatrickDK, yeah, fair nuff, just sorta courious :)
[01:57:00] PatrickDK: and well, always through in misc fans/heatsinks/cables
[01:57:00] kormoc: DarkBeer, not sure about most useful, but most fun, without a doubt :P
[01:57:00] PatrickDK: well, they did havea 2.4ghz celeron, with a 80g ide drive doing what those two do now
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[01:58:00] PatrickDK: I think we could get about 50–100 qps with mysql
[01:58:00] PatrickDK: and after 3 months the cpu and harddrive where both broken
[01:58:00] PatrickDK: heh, harddrive crashed reallybad
[01:59:00] PatrickDK: cpu probably needed a proper application of heatsink and thermalpaste
[01:59:00] PatrickDK: I ordered those two systems, and they have worked for almost 2 years now, no real problems
[02:00:00] PatrickDK: only one hardware related problem, scsi backplane was acting odd, replaced
[02:01:00] xris: backplanes tend to freak out often enough.
[02:01:00] xris: manufacturers don't know how to make them.
[02:02:00] xris: same goes with risers.
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[02:02:00] PatrickDK: so far my risers have been perfect
[02:02:00] PatrickDK: butthey aren't the generic pci risers
[02:02:00] PatrickDK: the motherboard was custom made for these risers
[02:02:00] PatrickDK: not a normal pci slot
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[02:03:00] xris: PatrickDK: once they're in, they work.. the problem is making them work in the first place (many risers don't work with all cards/motherboards.. require specific combinations, etc)
[02:04:00] xris: anyway, I think I hear the meeting room upstairs emptying out, so maybe my meeting will finally start.
[02:04:00] PatrickDK: heh
[02:05:00] xris: anyway, I just hear complaints from the product dev guys here.. manufacturers will change a riser without changing the part number, and the new one won't work with some raid card or motherboard, and we have to take dozens of photos to prove to them that something changed.
[02:08:00] PatrickDK: I need to build two more systems really
[02:08:00] PatrickDK: but they don't have to be cpu hungry or memory savvy
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[02:33:00] hfghfh: is it possible to remove the phone menu, since i dont have any use for it
[02:36:00] hfghfh: i removed it by hand in the mainmenu.xml file
[02:47:00] simcop2387: if the plugin isn't installed it shouldn't show up
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[03:20:00] kazan: sorry about earlier guys
[03:21:00] kazan: i'll just ignore that subject whenever it comes up from now on
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[03:23:00] Goose-Npa: hello
[03:23:00] kazan: high goose
[03:23:00] Goose-Npa: sup
[03:24:00] Goose-Npa: im tryin to play a vcd in mythtv but its in the format of .bin .cue
[03:24:00] Goose-Npa: any ideas
[03:27:00] kazan: convert it
[03:27:00] kazan: and don't talk to us about it
[03:30:00] Chutt sets mode +b %*!*@*.mchsi.com
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[03:31:00] fryfrog: i've always been able to just play .bin and .iso files
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[03:32:00] fryfrog: course, i use my xbox and its been a while since i used myth for that :)
[03:32:00] rjune: Goose-Npa: burn it to CD perhaps?
[03:32:00] rjune: fryfrog: you can just play th efiles if you use losetup to link them to /dev/lo0 first
[03:32:00] fryfrog: has anyone messed with HDTV air2pc card, QAM and ... getting it working?
[03:33:00] Chutt: oooh, he told me to 'row up'
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[03:33:00] Chutt: -kazan- you just banned a lot more people than me
[03:33:00] Chutt: -kazan- and row up and handle criticism
[03:33:00] rjune: Chutt: evidently you're downstream
[03:33:00] Chutt: of course, then he immediately quit
[03:34:00] rjune: although yeah, you would have booted my ugly butt too had I not just switched from medicom service
[03:34:00] fryfrog: i hope you have a boat and some ores :)
[03:34:00] fryfrog: okay, so i have the air2pc card in and detected fine with the module, dmesg is happy and so is myth
[03:35:00] fryfrog: i set up the card as a dvb card, and created a new empty channel line up
[03:35:00] fryfrog: but when i bind it to the card, then do the "scan for channels" i am getting seg faults duing the scan
[03:35:00] fryfrog: sometimes at like channel 8... but the first time was up in the 120 range
[03:36:00] fryfrog: i'm trying to read about how it all works, but... there is surprisingly little and i'm having trouble finding *more* to read
[03:44:00] Chutt: heh
[03:44:00] Chutt: it's just temporary. i just didn't want him evading the other one
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[03:50:00] akaias: hello. i'm trying to get tv-out on a nvidia 440MX working. it doesa on boot but when gnome loads i just get a black screen. I have the nvidia tv-out options enabled in xorg.conf but nothing happens. ideas?
[03:50:00] akaias: also is there a default H/V refresh to use for a TV?
[03:54:00] redfox: akaias, this is the guide that got it working for me:
[03:54:00] redfox: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/357590
[03:54:00] akaias: thx redfox, i'll chk it out
[03:54:00] redfox: you could also look at these sites:
[03:54:00] redfox: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php
[03:54:00] redfox: http://www.linuxis.us/linux/media/howto/linux-htpc/
[03:54:00] redfox: they have decent guides for tv out
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[04:04:00] fryfrog: i see why OTA HDTV is so much easier
[04:04:00] fryfrog: this QAM shit is a load of crap :)
[04:04:00] PatrickDK: heh
[04:04:00] ShockValue: ive been tossing around the idea of upgradingto .18.. i have a pretty solid .17 box currently... think its worth it?
[04:05:00] fryfrog: if you're happy with 0.17, stick with it!
[04:05:00] fryfrog: any features in 0.18 you really want?
[04:05:00] PatrickDK: maybe I should wait for v3.1
[04:05:00] fryfrog: though, you can always backup your db then just revert if you want
[04:05:00] ShockValue: I didnt see anything that jumped out at me in .18 that made me think i needed to switch
[04:05:00] ShockValue: but I am a sucker for new bells and whistles :)
[04:06:00] fryfrog: ARG WHY DO YOU SEG FAULT!
[04:06:00] PatrickDK: heh
[04:06:00] PatrickDK: I am really not liking svn
[04:08:00] ShockValue: so, i have this feature-rich remote that came with my reciever.. it works great in mythtv.. .the problem is its a real pain in the ass to use because its big and heaby
[04:08:00] ShockValue: heavy
[04:08:00] mchou: ShockValue: pic?
[04:08:00] ShockValue: so im thinking about checking into alternatives... something I can easily 1 hand
[04:09:00] mchou: I saw a darth maul romote control today.....
[04:09:00] mchou: laughed my ass off on that one
[04:09:00] ShockValue: mchou: searching.. one second
[04:10:00] mchou: http://www.noveltytelephone.com/products/darthmaulremote.html
[04:10:00] ShockValue: http://www.billsbest.com/thremote.html
[04:11:00] mchou: holy shit!
[04:11:00] mchou: that's much biiger than a palm :)
[04:11:00] rjune: http://www.beatdevice.com/blogs/wwajd/index.p . . . b=1&pb=1
[04:12:00] ShockValue: like i said.. you can program it to do anything , but i dont really care.. i want to maneuver myth efficiently with 1 hand.
[04:13:00] ShockValue: it has to be able to turn on/off the plasma, turn up/down the volume on the reciever, and maneuver myth.. and get me beer.
[04:13:00] mchou: rjune: haha
[04:13:00] rjune: mchou: I liked it
[04:13:00] rjune: ShockValue: you can't program it for X10
[04:13:00] rjune: as for the beer, have kids
[04:14:00] mchou: haha, before or afterwards? :)
[04:14:00] redfox: both.
[04:14:00] ShockValue: rjune: thats true.. but i dont have any x10 :)
[04:14:00] ShockValue: or kids
[04:14:00] ShockValue: just myth, a big remote, and cranky wife
[04:14:00] rjune: ShockValue: how about a better half?
[04:14:00] rjune: the wife will do
[04:14:00] redfox: maybe you could train a monkey... ;-)
[04:15:00] ShockValue: yeah well, the remote problem is 50% her bitching that its too big :)
[04:15:00] mchou: haha!!
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[04:15:00] rjune: ShockValue: get her something else big to make up for it
[04:15:00] mchou: ShockValue: I guess you'd have no problems in bed then :)
[04:17:00] ShockValue: too small one place, too large others... It's a battle I'll never win
[04:17:00] jlh_: I am trying to setup mythtv and I'm in the video sources section, what exactly am I going to enter here, I have no 'datadirect' account, etc, is this even neccessary
[04:17:00] redfox: jlh_, where do you live?
[04:17:00] rjune: ShockValue: LOL
[04:17:00] ShockValue: jlh_: if you want program schedules, yeah
[04:17:00] mchou: ShockValue: why do you need such a big remote anyways?
[04:18:00] jlh_: North Am
[04:18:00] redfox: yeah you need to set up a zap2it account
[04:18:00] ShockValue: mchou: it was free with my reciever. and my reciever is big :)
[04:18:00] jlh_: redfox: so if I don't care about information, do I need to even bother?
[04:18:00] redfox: well I guess not... but why wouldn't you? it is free
[04:18:00] mchou: ShockValue: bah, got to rat shack and get a JP1 remote control.
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[04:19:00] jlh_: redfox: cause I just want to get it running right now, perks can come later
[04:19:00] ShockValue: mchou: will those work with the hauppauge ir-dongle?
[04:19:00] mchou: ShockValue: yup.
[04:19:00] jlh_: redfox: alright, I think i have setup done, what is the command I run to get the recording part of mythTV?
[04:20:00] mchou: RC5–5 protocol is supported by the remote
[04:20:00] mchou: ShockValue: ^^
[04:20:00] ShockValue: mchou: wonder if it will turn on my plasma
[04:20:00] mchou: who makes your plasma?
[04:20:00] ShockValue: NEC
[04:20:00] mchou: ShockValue: most likely
[04:20:00] redfox: jlh_, well you need to have the backend and frontend running to start recording
[04:20:00] jlh_: hmmm
[04:21:00] redfox: it is easiest to follow a guide... do you have any?
[04:21:00] redfox: that you have been using, that is?
[04:21:00] mchou: ShockValue: there is no harm in trying one out. return if it doesnt work
[04:21:00] jlh_: redfox: been trying to follow the documentation on mythtv.org, but since I'm not entirely familiar w/ linux I may have easily missed something
[04:21:00] mchou: ShockValue: just the small factor will keep your wife happy :)
[04:21:00] redfox: ah ok... well I'll throw a couple guides at you which are pretty good ;-)
[04:22:00] redfox: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php
[04:22:00] redfox: http://www.linuxis.us/linux/media/howto/linux-htpc/
[04:22:00] redfox: those have both helped me
[04:22:00] ShockValue: mchou: depending on where im pointing it....
[04:22:00] mchou: ShockValue: haha!
[04:22:00] jlh_: redfox: ok cool, I'll give that a go
[04:23:00] redfox: ok good luck
[04:23:00] sputnik: hey, quick question... how do i rip a dvd with mythdvd?
[04:23:00] sputnik: i have all the options set, but i can't figure out how to tell it to start ripping.. :D
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[04:27:00] ShockValue: mchou: i dont see that radio shack has them anymore.. at least on their web page
[04:27:00] sputnik: hm, seems that there is another problem there
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[04:37:00] tmk: anyone want to participate in a user-experience survey?
[04:37:00] PatrickDK: heh
[04:37:00] tmk: given by me. right here, right now
[04:37:00] PatrickDK: sounds evil
[04:37:00] tmk: i'm just trying to figure out if any of you have the same problems as me
[04:38:00] PatrickDK: hmm, that is totally the wrong way to go about that
[04:38:00] tmk: what do you recommend?
[04:38:00] PatrickDK: stating your problems
[04:38:00] PatrickDK: so we can tell you how to fix it
[04:38:00] tmk: heh
[04:38:00] tmk: ok
[04:38:00] PatrickDK: if anyone knows
[04:39:00] PatrickDK: or, just sit there, and we can hit ya around alittle bit :)
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[04:39:00] greatdane: I am getting the following errors during boot:
[04:39:00] greatdane: ALSA /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/work/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/alsa-kernel/pci/ac97 /ac97_codec.c:1892: AC'97 0 does not respond – RESET
[04:39:00] greatdane: ALSA /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/work/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/alsa-kernel/pci/ac97 /ac97_codec.c:1901: AC'97 0 access is not valid [0x0], removing mixer.
[04:39:00] greatdane: ALSA /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/work/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/pci/intel8x0.c:2053: Unable to initialize codec #0
[04:39:00] greatdane: anyone know what causes this, I have an nForce2 chipset mother board. here is the lspci output for the device:
[04:39:00] greatdane: 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Sound Controller (rev a0)
[04:40:00] tmk: when a recording is in-progress, and i'm watching it, and doing a lot of skip forwards/rewinds (ie monday night football)
[04:40:00] tmk: it will sometimes stop fast-forwarding
[04:40:00] tmk: it will SAY it's skipping ahead
[04:40:00] tmk: but it won't actually do anything
[04:41:00] tmk: 17.0 and 18.1 both have same problem
[04:41:00] tmk: also, my master backend crashes frequently
[04:41:00] fryfrog: greatdane: that doesn't exactly look like a myth based error
[04:41:00] fryfrog: greatdane: and that is gentoo's portage cache, why are there error messages from it?
[04:42:00] qfx: I'd say either you have some alsa problems, or your install is interfereing with your alsa kernel mods
[04:42:00] fryfrog: greatdane: with gentoo and a kernel from the last year or two... you don't *WANT* the "alsa-driver" ebuild
[04:42:00] ShockValue: well, im off to the store to buy a new remote :)
[04:42:00] fryfrog: you want to configure your right module *IN* the kernel instead
[04:43:00] greatdane: The error messages are just listing the source file that generated the error, you can ignore that.
[04:44:00] fryfrog: no, you can't ignore it
[04:44:00] fryfrog: there are multiple things wrong with the error message
[04:44:00] greatdane: fryfrog: I tried that and was and it was still getting the same error
[04:44:00] fryfrog: one, its being generated from gentoo's CACHE
[04:45:00] fryfrog: two, you shouldn't even *HAVE* the "alsa-driver" package installed
[04:45:00] tmk: problem #2: occasionally (rather frequently it seems) myth has trouble reading the video inputs on my capture card
[04:45:00] qfx: so I managed to get auto transcoding to transcode, but the output crashes mplayer and myth :(
[04:45:00] fryfrog: three, things sound better when there are three things
[04:45:00] greatdane: it is not being generated from gentoo's cache, the source file is taking the filename at compile time and puting it in the error message. These messages are from the boot (dmesg)
[04:46:00] fryfrog: okay, so you 100% don't have the "alsa-driver" package installed?
[04:46:00] fryfrog: what does "emerge -pv alsa-driver" say
[04:46:00] fryfrog: do you get a green "N" or a yellow "R"?
[04:46:00] greatdane: no, I do, but I was getting the same error without it. I will be unmerging that package because it did not help.
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[04:46:00] fryfrog: kk
[04:47:00] greatdane: but I still have the problem :)
[04:47:00] fryfrog: first i'd suggest taking your issue to the #gentoo, it has 1000s of people who use gentoo :)
[04:47:00] fryfrog: but it simply sounds like you've left out some kernel modules or something
[04:48:00] greatdane: that is what I thought but I have this working on 5 other boxes.
[04:48:00] smoke_: when i set the font name in my theme file.. what does it have to specify?
[04:48:00] smoke_: the path of the font? ... i put mine in /usr/share/fonts/TTF, and im trying to use it, but it wont work when i change it... i ran fc-cache too
[04:49:00] redfox: so my pvr150 is giving a green flashing horizontal bar at the very bottom of the screen... any ideas?
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[04:59:00] SqWaw: MythTV says the 10 o'clock news is a repeat from 2002... is this normal?
[05:00:00] tmk: it probably has the same title, and description
[05:00:00] tmk: you can control in the recording settings how it checks for duplicates
[05:02:00] SqWaw: just playin back live tv tho
[05:02:00] SqWaw: not even playin back, its really live...
[05:03:00] SqWaw: and my tv buffer, it grew to about 300mb, how come it isnt like auto-cleared and deleted or something?
[05:03:00] SqWaw: 300gb *
[05:05:00] orb_rox: mythtv's "live tv" is still recorded, the buffer (you decide where it lives) is cleared when you change channels or exit live-tv
[05:05:00] qfx: redfox, I had that (but blue) and it was a size problem
[05:06:00] redfox: qfx, how did you solve it?
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[05:06:00] redfox: ivtvctl settings?
[05:06:00] qfx: redfox, I went back to ivtv 0.3.8
[05:07:00] redfox: ah haha
[05:07:00] qfx: 0.3.9 gave me lots of problems
[05:07:00] redfox: I might give that a try
[05:07:00] qfx: like no sound
[05:07:00] redfox: interesting
[05:07:00] redfox: oh me too!
[05:07:00] mchou: ShockValue: wow. I guess RS no longer carries them....
[05:07:00] qfx: easy compile though! They have a good package
[05:07:00] redfox: qfx, are you using a 150 also?
[05:07:00] orb_rox: mchou: mediamvp?
[05:08:00] mchou: orb_rox: huh??
[05:08:00] qfx: redfox, yah, PVR-150MCE
[05:08:00] redfox: ok thanks for the help, I've been using 0.3.9 with the same problems
[05:08:00] SqWaw: orb_rox, is there anyway to change that? like every 100GB or something it clears?
[05:08:00] redfox: I'll try 0.3.8 instead
[05:08:00] qfx: Yah, what linux do yo0u run?
[05:08:00] redfox: gentoo
[05:08:00] orb_rox: mchou: RS no longer carries .. what?
[05:09:00] mchou: orb_rox: JP1 remote controls
[05:09:00] qfx: I use Fedora, but gentoo is standard with kernel source right? I think that, and LAMEmp3 are the only dependencies
[05:09:00] qfx: redfox, good luck :)
[05:09:00] orb_rox: mchou: oh, sorry. Maybe try the locator, if you have a part number .. mediamvp wasn't showing up anywhere but there
[05:09:00] qfx: and once you get transcoding working, let me know!
[05:10:00] redfox: haha thanks... I'll probably just download the source again
[05:10:00] orb_rox: SqWaw: my advice, don't fall asleep watching livetv :)
[05:10:00] qfx: no problem. I'm glad I could help! (or I hope it helps at least)
[05:10:00] SqWaw: hHAHA thats exactly what i do.
[05:10:00] SqWaw: maybe a script that i could cron ?
[05:11:00] redfox: qfx, yeah it is nice to at least know I'm not the only one with these problems
[05:11:00] redfox: but I think I have other issues to sort out before I get to transcoding
[05:11:00] orb_rox: SqWaw: the buffer settings are found in mythtv-setup
[05:12:00] SqWaw: orb_rox, does it delete the livetv buffer is it begins to exceed it tho?
[05:13:00] orb_rox: SqWaw: honestly, I couldn't tell ya ..
[05:16:00] qfx: redfox, I guess that's what the irc is for :)
[05:17:00] qfx: redfox, but if you see me, let me know how it goes. I just had to go through all of that.
[05:17:00] qfx: Also, make a pastebin.ca item of your modules.conf
[05:17:00] qfx: I had to change a couple things int here
[05:17:00] redfox: oh really?
[05:17:00] redfox: alright
[05:17:00] qfx: yah, I think I had to remove something....
[05:17:00] qfx: Ummm....
[05:17:00] qfx: :) I'll compare ours
[05:18:00] redfox: mine just alias's the devices to ivtv and videodev... still need to compare?
[05:18:00] redfox: 3 lines total
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[05:19:00] qfx: you can DCC it to me if you want
[05:19:00] redfox: ah I'll pastbin, just a sec
[05:19:00] redfox: http://pastebin.ca/24085
[05:19:00] redfox: that is what the gentoo emerge got me
[05:21:00] qfx: I also have alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv
[05:21:00] qfx: but yah, I had to comment out something about tveeprom
[05:22:00] redfox: oh really? Do you know what that was for?
[05:22:00] redfox: I don't have the remote controller version of the 150
[05:22:00] qfx: neither do I... the MCE
[05:22:00] redfox: oh my bad :-)
[05:22:00] redfox: I'll try it without that alias first
[05:22:00] qfx: Yah... ah... yah, don't let it happen again :)
[05:22:00] redfox: haha
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[05:26:00] redfox: qfx, holy cow! that solved all my problems!
[05:27:00] redfox: for future reference 0.3.8 >> 0.3.9 with my pvr150
[05:29:00] qfx: yay!
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[05:29:00] qfx: well .3.9 is still in development, so I can't really complain
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[05:29:00] redfox: yeah makes sense
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[05:30:00] redfox: but man I am on cloud 9 right now... I was working on that sound problem for the past week
[05:30:00] qfx: anyhow. Now good luck with Myth! :)
[05:30:00] qfx: Same thing happened to me :)
[05:31:00] tmk: redfox: can you email the ivtv-devel list?
[05:31:00] tmk: hans thinks 3.9 is great and works for everybody :)
[05:31:00] redfox: tmk, sure thing, thanks for reminding me ;-)
[05:32:00] tmk: np
[05:32:00] tmk: it changed to @ivtvdriver.org though
[05:32:00] tmk: if you didn't hear
[05:32:00] redfox: yeah... I'm trying to find it now ;-)
[05:34:00] cosmo_: anyone recommend an lcd projector as a computer display?
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[05:41:00] rjune: cosmo-: as in a specifc brand?
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[05:55:00] simcop2387: i want a zaurus so i can try to get mythfrontend running on it
[05:55:00] simcop2387: wireless connection, and mythfrontend
[06:03:00] tmk: anyone use the tv-out of the pvr-350 in here?
[06:03:00] tmk: i have a patch and need some guniea pigs :)
[06:04:00] qfx: has anone installed vlc?
[06:05:00] tmk: on windows? or linux
[06:05:00] qfx: linux
[06:05:00] tmk: sorry
[06:05:00] qfx: np
[06:06:00] qfx: I just want to stream my device to windows.
[06:06:00] tmk: i know people do that
[06:06:00] GreyFoxx: I stream from vlc on my box here at home to my boxes at work with vlc
[06:06:00] qfx: I can' get vlc to install from RPM on my linux box
[06:07:00] GreyFoxx: I don't use packages, so I can't help ya there
[06:07:00] qfx: I would try compile if I had the libraries
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[06:07:00] qfx: but I think those are the things that aren't installed for the dependancies
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[06:16:00] ShockValue: well i just went all over town to fine a new remote, but i didnt find anything i liked
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[06:38:00] mchou: ShockValue: http://www.ofausa.com/list_remotes.php?type=P . . . rning%20Line
[06:39:00] ShockValue: i saw a couple one-for-alls.. i think they were the lower end ones.. they were very "back" heavy, and I didnt like the location of the menu buttons
[06:40:00] mchou: ShockValue: nope. get obly the learning ones from ofa.....
[06:40:00] mchou: only*
[06:40:00] ShockValue: i just wish i could get my dang directtv remote to work... it's ergonomically perfect for me
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[06:41:00] ShockValue: i spent hours looking for a device to program into it that used the buttons in a way that would work for myth
[06:42:00] mchou: I thought this was for your wife :)
[06:42:00] ShockValue: both of us.. she's just more vocal about it
[06:42:00] mchou: or you can get a logitech harmony
[06:42:00] tmk: i use the remote that came with my receiver.. tis' learning
[06:42:00] mchou: mucho dinero
[06:42:00] ShockValue: at least she's bitching about the remote, instead of how i ruined the TV :)
[06:43:00] tmk: i used to have a $40 radioshack one that worked ok too
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[06:43:00] mchou: rat shack jp1 were the best!
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[07:16:00] ip_goat_rodeo: Oh man, this new chocolate bar with powdered coffee is better than sex...
[07:18:00] Krazylegz: Pfffft, no one in #mythtv-users has sex, except maybe Beirdo.
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[07:18:00] ip_goat_rodeo: too busy watching tv?
[07:19:00] DW__: wow
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[07:20:00] Nemas: Hey all hows it going?
[07:20:00] simcop2387: sleep, need sleep, later
[07:20:00] Nemas: Anyone use http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php to install myth, is it still up to dae?
[07:20:00] DW__: found what i was looking for with out asking...cool
[07:22:00] Nemas: This might be stupid question but I am not familaure with Fedora Core 4. More of a BSD guy. But when downloading the drivers and the mythtv-suite It errors out saying "nothing to do" anyone know why that would be? I am following his directions to the letter.
[07:23:00] Nemas: drivers are for Nvidia 4 MX
[07:23:00] DW__: anyone running this beast with out a tv tuner?
[07:24:00] Nemas: lol not me, still trying to install the rpoms
[07:25:00] Nemas: is http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php a good place to go to set up MythTV? I am running Nvidia geforce 4 mx and a ATI capture card. Just looking to set up a basic system on Fedora Core 4
[07:26:00] DW__: well your ahead of me. i'm still reading the directions seeing if have all the crap to get it working
[07:26:00] Nemas: You do need a Capture card
[07:26:00] ip_goat_rodeo: well, in theory you could use a firewire in instead of a capture card.
[07:26:00] SlicerDicer-: hey guys do you know if myth can play avi's I cannot remember
[07:26:00] Nemas: Nice didnt know that )
[07:26:00] SlicerDicer-: if I replace the .nuv with a extremely compressed AVI will it work?
[07:27:00] DW__: i'm wanting to skip the tv part and us it as a video server
[07:27:00] Nemas: Ahh I see
[07:27:00] ip_goat_rodeo: but that requires a settop box that actually puts stuff out on its firewire
[07:27:00] Nemas: I just need to know what "Nothing to do" means when trying to download the RPMs )
[07:27:00] DW__: i'm using media portal right now but I'm not going to talk about that
[07:29:00] Nemas: I did a full system update after the FC4 install. Then I downloaded the ATRPMS into /etc/yum.repos.d/ as well as the freshrpms. All without an error but when trying to install the drivers for the nvidia card it just sais nothing to do.
[07:30:00] Nemas: Same thing when I try to download the mythtv-suite. Anyone know why this is happening?
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[07:37:00] Nemas: Does anyone know what "Nothing to do" means when trying to install a RPM?
[07:38:00] Krazylegz: It's already installed.
[07:38:00] Nemas: I see thank you
[07:39:00] Nemas: When I try to install mythyv-suite it gives me the same thing tho. And I know I haven't installed that yet
[07:39:00] Nemas: mythtv that is
[07:39:00] DW__: Nemas do a rpm -qa | grep <the package name> and see if the package you are trying to install is already there
[07:40:00] Nemas: Thank you DW__
[07:41:00] DW__: looks like what i want to do can be done just run the frontend and not the back ent
[07:41:00] DW__: end
[07:43:00] Nemas: DW__: that command with nvidia-graphics7667-kmdl-$KVER returns a blank line
[07:45:00] DW__: then its not installed. try it with only nvidia there
[07:46:00] Nemas: blank )
[07:46:00] DW__: then the package you want is not installed
[07:47:00] Nemas: I tried yum install nvidia-graphics7667-kmdl-$KVER and it sais downloaded 14 new packages deleted 2 in 3.1 seconds, then no match for argument yum install nvidia-graphics7667-kmdl-
[07:47:00] Nemas: it removed the $KVER
[07:47:00] ** DW__ shurgs **
[07:48:00] DW__: what is yum?
[07:48:00] Krazylegz: DW__: It helps you resolve RPM dependencies.
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[07:48:00] Nemas: I guess it is like aptget
[07:48:00] cosmo_: yellowgod-update-manager
[07:48:00] cosmo_: yellowdog*
[07:49:00] Nemas: Not so yummie for me tonight ) first night on redhat :P
[07:49:00] Krazylegz: Nemas: Why don't you use your favorite distro instead?
[07:49:00] Nemas: wilsonnet.com had a really night write up on it
[07:50:00] Nemas: when he said to # wget http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/freshrpms.repo could these be outdated?
[07:51:00] Nemas: Basically I think that the packages he is talking about don't exist anymore, but I don't really know what a repo is so I can't be sure.
[07:52:00] Nemas: Is there a better way to get updated packages other than his site?
[07:52:00] Krazylegz: It's an RPM repository.
[07:52:00] Nemas: I see
[07:53:00] Nemas: Is there a command that I can use to see what nvidia driver rpms there are in the reposirory?
[07:53:00] Krazylegz: I'd check RPMfind.net .
[07:53:00] Nemas: cd /usr/ports/myth-tv....make && make install.... That would be sweet :P
[07:53:00] Krazylegz: I haven't used RH/Fedora in a LONG time, though.
[07:54:00] Krazylegz: You can use MythTV on FreeBSD. GreyFoxx does it.
[07:54:00] Nemas: So no match and nothing to do responses would be because the drivers he is talking about don't exist in the respoitary?
[07:55:00] Nemas: I really wanted to keep with his write up but I might have to just do that
[07:55:00] Krazylegz: It's possible.
[07:55:00] Krazylegz: If you are doing NVidia drivers, you may want to get them from NVidia instead of from a repo.
[07:55:00] Nemas: one last stupid question.. How can I find the version of KDE I am using?
[07:55:00] Nemas: I see
[07:57:00] Nemas: I assume that you have to download the version for KDE you are using right?
[07:58:00] Krazylegz: No, I don't think so.
[07:58:00] Krazylegz: KDE doesn't have anything to do with NVidia, unless there is something funky going on there.
[07:59:00] Krazylegz: NVidia provides a driver for XFree86/Xorg.
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[08:00:00] nuonguy: I just changed my theme to Minimalist Wide and now I can't select the Setup menu!
[08:00:00] nuonguy: How bizarre is that!
[08:01:00] Nemas: lol rpmfind.net has nothing for nvidia-graphics :(
[08:02:00] Krazylegz: Did you check the NVidia website?
[08:02:00] Nemas: checking that now
[08:04:00] nuonguy: How do you fix that? I can't choose the setup menu anymore....
[08:09:00] ** xris grumbles about how stupid people are about following application guidelines. **
[08:09:00] xris: plain text != copy and paste from word with all the funky formatting characters.
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[08:11:00] Krazylegz: Heh, your listing made me actually put together a decent plain text version of my resume. It has been very handy.
[08:13:00] xris: Krazylegz: glad to be of help. sorry you're not local... would be nice to have hired someone by now.
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[08:14:00] Krazylegz: I am buying a house here. :-)
[08:15:00] xris: Krazylegz: awesome
[08:15:00] Krazylegz: Probably down the street from kormoc's old place.
[08:15:00] xris: heh
[08:16:00] SlicerDicer-: hey xris I think it was you I spoke to about this before
[08:16:00] SlicerDicer-: I was wondering will myth play avi's renamed as .nuv?
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[08:28:00] Nemas: Anyone know how to completely exit X?
[08:28:00] Nemas: On FC4
[08:29:00] metusine: cntrl-alt-backspace?
[08:30:00] Nemas: Just reloads kdm
[08:31:00] Nemas: If this wasn't so much fun I woulda just ran to bestbuy and bought a Tivo :P
[08:32:00] Nemas: I editied the /etc/initab file to have the default run level of 3 instead of 5. Rebooted and there I was
[08:33:00] Nemas: This is gonna be super fun, I am on step 3 of wilsonet.com's write up :P
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[08:41:00] metusine: ummm
[08:41:00] metusine: not sure if it'll work on fc
[08:42:00] metusine: but try /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[08:42:00] metusine: or xdm
[08:42:00] metusine: failing that
[08:42:00] metusine: ps -ef | grep dm
[08:42:00] Nemas: I set it at 3 and it works, now I got to reedit the file to get back to 5
[08:42:00] metusine: find out if it's kdm or xdm or whatever
[08:42:00] metusine: and kill it
[08:42:00] SlicerDicer-: Nemas, yeah umm move xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak and then press alt+ctrl+backspace
[08:42:00] SlicerDicer-: that will for sure kill X
[08:42:00] SlicerDicer-: then when you are done move it back to where it needs to be
[08:43:00] Nemas: Good tip Slicer I did it the hard way )
[08:43:00] SlicerDicer-: if you cant figure out how to startup X just reboot :)
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[08:43:00] Nemas: startkde will restart kde )
[08:43:00] SlicerDicer-: Nemas, I just change my driver config to something like butthole and then press alt+ctrl+backspace
[08:43:00] SlicerDicer-: I assume you were needing to kill it for nvidia driver or something eh?
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[08:43:00] Nemas: Execlent tip man
[08:44:00] Nemas: brb got to reedit the initab to get kde back
[08:45:00] k-man__: hows the svn version at the moment?
[08:45:00] k-man__: is it stable enough for production?
[08:45:00] SlicerDicer-: k-man__, I use stable and it works just fine
[08:45:00] SlicerDicer-: why do you want svn?
[08:45:00] k-man__: yeah, i do to
[08:45:00] k-man__: um...
[08:45:00] k-man__: because i'm mad? ;)
[08:46:00] SlicerDicer-: well hmmm
[08:46:00] k-man__: i dunno, i heard there is afew new features i'd like to try
[08:46:00] SlicerDicer-: really
[08:46:00] k-man__: like incremental search in mythmusic
[08:46:00] ** SlicerDicer- peers at new features **
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[08:47:00] JohnnyST: Anyone got some debian packages for lates svn version of Mythtv?
[08:48:00] Nemas: Hey, anyone know where the iptables rules are stored on FC4?
[08:49:00] Nemas: This would be allot easier with VNC :)
[08:50:00] Nemas: This is sweet, I am remembering so much about linux now. Starting to get back in the swing of things
[08:51:00] Nemas: Ok, got nvidia drivers loaded finally :P thanks for all of your help guys.
[08:53:00] Nemas: Crap one last question. Anyone know the iptables command to allow anything from a ip to a ip? I am still used to ipfw.
[08:53:00] Nemas: This is the redhat FW btw
[08:59:00] Nemas: found it, all this remembering is hurting my head :P
[08:59:00] xris: Nemas: /etc/sysconfig
[09:00:00] xris: installing shorewall is probably easier to deal with in the long run, though.
[09:00:00] xris: oh, and turn of selinux
[09:02:00] Nemas: Aye, I disables selinux
[09:02:00] Nemas: shorewall is good?
[09:02:00] Nemas: ok got in now forgot how to enable kde in vnc )
[09:03:00] Nemas: got it )
[09:04:00] xris: I like shorewall. easy to configure, etc. and powerful
[09:04:00] xris: anyway, time for sleep.
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[09:04:00] Nemas: This machine if I ever get it up will not be on the net for long, once a week for a few minutes to load new listings
[09:07:00] SlicerDicer-: whys that Nemas?
[09:08:00] Nemas: don't need it for anything else
[09:08:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[09:08:00] Nemas: finally got my wife to give up a computer
[09:08:00] Nemas: )
[09:08:00] SlicerDicer-: mine is on my network :)
[09:08:00] SlicerDicer-: no way to have it able to run frontends on all my systems
[09:08:00] SlicerDicer-: like right now I am watching hackers LOL on the box next to me
[09:08:00] Nemas: This is gonna be for just 1 TV for now. Might give the kids another box leter. Then I will need a backend so they can check out DVDs
[09:10:00] SlicerDicer-: you only really need 1 backend :)
[09:10:00] Nemas: aye
[09:10:00] Nemas: I have a dual pIII coming up soon, might use that as the backend
[09:11:00] Nemas: just want to get this thing up tho first
[09:11:00] SlicerDicer-: my backend runs on a 1.4ghz and I can run 4 frontends without issue :)
[09:11:00] Nemas: Nice
[09:12:00] Nemas: Wife is gonna want one of these for CSI
[09:12:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[09:12:00] Nemas: Bleh only 3 beers left
[09:13:00] SlicerDicer-: I buy 3 gallons at a time from my brewery
[09:13:00] SlicerDicer-: local brewery anyway
[09:13:00] Nemas: lol lucky
[09:14:00] Nemas: ok getting vnc to run as kde is really buggin
[09:14:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[09:14:00] SlicerDicer-: why do you need vnc?
[09:14:00] Nemas: if I log in as root I use the /root/.vnc/xtartup right?
[09:15:00] Nemas: I am lazy I don't like getting up and going to the rack everytime I want to type on it
[09:17:00] Nemas: I am gonna get this thing watching TV tongiht or I am gonna shoot it
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[09:23:00] Nemas: Werid rpmfind doesn't have mythtv as a rpm (
[09:26:00] Nemas: bleh No Match for argument: mythtv-suite
[09:28:00] Nemas: Anyone know where I can find the mythtv-suite rpm at?
[09:29:00] SqWaw: holllllaaa
[09:29:00] Nemas: kpasa :P
[09:30:00] SqWaw: quick question, myth says both my tuners are recording. they arn't, how can i reset their status?
[09:30:00] Nemas: quepasa that is I think, well I am not sure but I believe it could be.
[09:31:00] Nemas: I dunno man, sorry. Its pretty quiet in here tonight
[09:32:00] SqWaw: @ me?
[09:33:00] Nemas: Yes
[09:34:00] SqWaw: i found the problem on the mailing list
[09:34:00] SqWaw: but no one posted a solution
[09:34:00] SqWaw: [mythtv-users] Livetv -Mythtv is already using all available inputs for recording?
[09:35:00] Nemas: I am still trying to find the RPM for myth, http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php isnt working for me at all
[09:36:00] Nemas: I think hios walkthrough is too dated for the FC4 kernal I am using (
[09:36:00] Nemas: his
[09:36:00] Nemas: Blen I can't spell worth crap tonight
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[09:55:00] Nemas: Does anyone know where I can get the mythtv RPMs from?
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[09:58:00] Nemas: OMG OMG OMG I deleted the .repo that I downloaded eariler and redownloaded them and now it is working :)
[09:59:00] Nemas: stupid question inc..... ATI wonder card. Does anyone know what chipset that used?
[10:03:00] SlicerDicer-: ati wonder cards to dont work with myth AFAIK
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[10:03:00] Nemas: The all in wonder ones dont
[10:03:00] Nemas: I have a ATI tv Wonder Pro
[10:03:00] SlicerDicer-: no idea
[10:04:00] Nemas: Comes with a cool usb remote and everything
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[10:08:00] nuonguy: Nemas: You still looking for the myth rpms?
[10:08:00] nuonguy: You want the atrpms.net distribution
[10:08:00] nuonguy: And, the ATI hw does _not_ work with mythtv: there's no drivers for it the tuner
[10:10:00] Nemas: I fixed it, for some reason I had to re-download the repo files
[10:11:00] Nemas: I had to delete them first then redownload then followed the rest of his tutorial and now mythtv-suite is installing
[10:11:00] nuonguy: You need to install something like http://dl.atrpms.net/all/medley-package-confi . . . .at.i386.rpm to auto setup your repos dir
[10:11:00] Nemas: Nice, thanks man
[10:11:00] nuonguy: I'm trying to figure out SQL to fix my theme
[10:11:00] Nemas: I am reading that people got ati working with myth and also the remote using drivers from gatos.sourceforge.net
[10:12:00] nuonguy: Word of warning: NEVER set your theme to Minimalist-wide!! You won't be able to use the setup menu again
[10:12:00] Nemas: Not the all-in-wonder ones tho
[10:12:00] Nemas: lol thanks )
[10:12:00] nuonguy: Anyone comfortable with manhandling mysql tables?
[10:12:00] Nemas: I can believe it or not ) depends on what you need
[10:13:00] nuonguy: The table I want is settings
[10:14:00] Nemas: ok
[10:14:00] nuonguy: There is a data,value pair (is that called a row?) that I want to change
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[10:14:00] nuonguy: Currently the 'data' column reads Minimalist-wide and it should be something else
[10:14:00] Nemas: It is called a row or also a record
[10:15:00] Nemas: do you have MySQL Query Browser
[10:16:00] Nemas: MySQL Query Browser is sweet, it does all the work for you pretty much
[10:16:00] Nemas: otherwise you would have to use regular SQL expressions to update the record
[10:16:00] nuonguy: I have something called gtksql, but it doesn't seem to let me change tables...
[10:16:00] Nemas: lol finally I can help :P
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[10:17:00] Nemas: I don't have myth set up yet tho so you will have to tell me what the column names are
[10:18:00] nuonguy: In the settings table, there are three fields: value, data, hostname
[10:19:00] nuonguy: The record I want to change lists only "Minimalist-wide" for data and "Theme" for value
[10:19:00] Nemas: update tablename (field, value) where data='Minimalist-wide'
[10:20:00] Nemas: If you are good with asp and you have a open connection to the database it is easier
[10:20:00] nuonguy: Dude, I don't get databases at all
[10:20:00] Nemas: they arn't so bad
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[10:21:00] Nemas: if you want and you are connected to the net with at database I can log in and change it for you
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[10:21:00] Rince: evening
[10:21:00] nuonguy: I'd like to know how do do it
[10:21:00] nuonguy: rather, how to do it
[10:22:00] Nemas: do you have a windows box that can connect to the database?
[10:22:00] nuonguy: no
[10:22:00] Nemas: KDE or gnome?
[10:23:00] Nemas: on the box?
[10:23:00] nuonguy: KDE
[10:23:00] Nemas: with the database that is
[10:23:00] nuonguy: Both are installed
[10:23:00] Nemas: checking brb
[10:24:00] Nemas: what distro are you using?
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[10:24:00] nuonguy: I just installed the mysql query browser for the RH9 RPM on my FC4 mythbox
[10:25:00] Nemas: nice
[10:25:00] Nemas: ever use the mysql admin program?
[10:26:00] Nemas: one sec have to wish wife happy birthday
[10:26:00] nuonguy: nope
[10:27:00] Nemas: ok are you runing the program now?
[10:27:00] nuonguy: yeah
[10:27:00] nuonguy: And I found the mythconverg database
[10:28:00] nuonguy: and the settings table
[10:28:00] nuonguy: and it lists the three (fields?) value, data, hostname
[10:28:00] Nemas: ok dbl click on the table and execuite the query
[10:29:00] Nemas: in the top box it should say select * from tablename
[10:29:00] Nemas: once you do that it should give the results from that table
[10:30:00] nuonguy: yay
[10:30:00] Nemas: how far along are ya?
[10:30:00] nuonguy: I did that
[10:30:00] nuonguy: I have a whole bunch of rows, with the headings value and data
[10:30:00] Nemas: ok click on the row
[10:30:00] Nemas: at the bottom there is a edit button
[10:31:00] Nemas: click on that and then dbl click on the field you want to edit
[10:31:00] nuonguy: ....looking for the edit button...
[10:31:00] Nemas: Bottom of the screen
[10:31:00] Nemas: Will be black other buttons will be greyed out
[10:31:00] nuonguy: There's a 'start editing' button, but greyed out
[10:32:00] Nemas: Next to the statusbar?
[10:32:00] nuonguy: yeah
[10:33:00] Nemas: I have edit, Apply changes, discard changes, <-first, -> last, Search
[10:33:00] Nemas: I am on xp tho
[10:33:00] nuonguy: Should I close down myth to do this?
[10:33:00] Nemas: you will need to reload it
[10:33:00] nuonguy: Is there like something that prohibits edits if someone else is running?
[10:34:00] Nemas: so it can re-read the tables
[10:34:00] Nemas: Could be
[10:34:00] Nemas: depends on how myth does the locking
[10:36:00] Nemas: where you at now?
[10:36:00] nuonguy: Doesn't change
[10:36:00] nuonguy: I stopped myth
[10:36:00] nuonguy: editing button is greyed out
[10:37:00] Nemas: That is odd
[10:37:00] Nemas: You could use INSERT INTO <tablename> from the mysql prompt
[10:38:00] nuonguy: from the box up top?
[10:38:00] nuonguy: something like
[10:38:00] Nemas: that might work also but if you go to your terminal and type in #mysql -uroot -p<password> <databasename> you will be in a shell
[10:39:00] Nemas: in that database
[10:39:00] nuonguy: insert into mythconverg settings theme=blue ?
[10:40:00] Nemas: insert into mythconverg ("heme", "blue"
[10:40:00] Nemas: insert into mythconverg ("heme", "blue") where some field = some value
[10:40:00] Nemas: I will have to look it up real fast gimme a second
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[10:44:00] nuonguy: insert into settings values("Theme","blue") ?
[10:44:00] Nemas: UPDATE table_name SET field_name = value
[10:45:00] nuonguy: That's not complete, is it?
[10:45:00] Nemas: UPDATE settings SET theme = 'blue';
[10:45:00] Nemas: that should work
[10:46:00] nuonguy: ! 1054 Unknown column 'Theme' in 'field list'
[10:46:00] Nemas: Is theme the name of the collumn?
[10:47:00] Nemas: or is that the first word in the row
[10:47:00] nuonguy: Um, the columns have headings 'value' and 'data'
[10:48:00] nuonguy: And there's a row where the first word is 'Theme' and the second word is 'Minimalist-wide'
[10:48:00] Nemas: ok so change to read UPDATE settings SET data = 'blue' where value = '';
[10:48:00] Nemas: ok so change to read UPDATE settings SET data = 'blue' where value = 'Minimalist-wide';
[10:48:00] nuonguy: space and case sensitive?
[10:49:00] Nemas: naw sql is not case sensitive
[10:49:00] nuonguy: query executed
[10:49:00] Nemas: Nice now do a select * from settings;
[10:49:00] nuonguy: That row still reads the same
[10:49:00] Nemas: should show the rows int he table. It should be changed also
[10:49:00] Nemas: Bah
[10:50:00] Nemas: Might have to kill all the myth processes
[10:50:00] nuonguy: it is killed
[10:50:00] nuonguy: Do I have to save something?
[10:51:00] Nemas: That shoulda done it then
[10:51:00] Nemas: naw a UPDATE is realtime
[10:51:00] Nemas: if it is locked you should get an error or something
[10:51:00] Nemas: does the user you logged in with have update privs on thatdatabase?
[10:52:00] Nemas: you could also try logging as the mythtv user -umythtv -p<passwordL.
[10:52:00] nuonguy: I logged in as root
[10:52:00] Nemas: root should have full on that table
[10:53:00] Rince: *Sigh* is here anyone familiar with nuvexport and amd64/debian? I can not export (compressed) nuv-files to DVD-format...
[10:53:00] nuonguy: Not I, sadly
[10:53:00] nuonguy: Nemas, what's the diff between REPLACE and UPDATE
[10:54:00] Nemas: Not I man, still trying to get myth running :)
[10:54:00] Nemas: replace will replace all values while update will update a field
[10:55:00] Nemas:
[10:55:00] nuonguy: It's 2AM
[10:55:00] nuonguy: I'm gonna go ot be
[10:55:00] Nemas: Note that unless the table has a PRIMARY KEY or UNIQUE index, using a REPLACE statement makes no sense. It becomes equivalent to INSERT, because there is no index to be used to determine whether a new row duplicates another.
[10:55:00] nuonguy: to bed and try this tomorrow
[10:56:00] Nemas: lol me too, I am too tired 2 AM here also
[10:56:00] nuonguy: Thanks for the help
[10:56:00] Nemas: sorry I couldn't help more
[10:56:00] nuonguy: it's cool
[10:56:00] Nemas: good night man, i'll be here tommrow begging for location on ATI frivers I am sure of it :)
[10:56:00] nuonguy: good luck
[10:56:00] Nemas: thanks )
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[11:17:00] eric: ok, i've almost got my mythtv setup... i get the following backend errors "Can't open video device: /dev/video" and "open video:: No such device or address"... /dev/video is there and when i cat it, it outputs mpeg output... the permissions are correctly set because i can cat it using my user... i have no idea whats wrong... can someone help me out?
[11:17:00] eric: heres my frontend error "RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read()"
[11:18:00] eric: as well as "mythtv: could not connect to socket" and "mythtv: No such file or directory" which occur when i first start mythfrontend
[11:19:00] eric: strange, i get "mythtv: could not connect to socket" and "mythtv: No such file or directory" when i run myth-setup and mythfrontend at the very beginning is this ok?
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[11:21:00] eric: someone please help!
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[11:24:00] eric: am i supposed to run myth-setup as root or a regular user?
[11:27:00] Twiun: I have no idea, but please note that this channel is much livelier during US working hours
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[11:28:00] eric: hehe, ok
[11:35:00] ccorax: eric, to my knowledge, you need to run myth-setup to configure the backend, start the backend, then the frontend...
[11:43:00] eric: ccorax: thats what i have done
[11:43:00] eric: brb, rebooting, maybe that will help
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[11:45:00] ccorax: but is the backend running??
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[11:46:00] eric: someone please help me!
[11:47:00] eric: does it matter who i run "mythtv-setup" and "mythtvfrontend" with?
[11:49:00] eric: i'm assuming "mythtv-setup" has to be run by root and "mythtvfrontend" can be run with anyone, is that correct?
[11:50:00] ccorax: what happens when you run mythtv-setup??
[11:52:00] eric: i set everything up
[11:52:00] eric: then i restart the mythtvbackend
[11:53:00] eric: my problem is this "Can't open video device: /dev/video"... thats in my backend log
[11:54:00] eric: however, /dev/video exists and has the correct permissions
[11:54:00] eric: i actually get "Can't open video device: /dev/v4l/video0" and then "open video:: No such device or address"...
[11:55:00] eric: someone please help
[11:56:00] eric: when i cat /dev/video i get mpeg2 data
[11:58:00] otwin: eric: is /dev/video a symbolic link to /dev/v4l/video0 ?
[11:58:00] eric: yes
[11:58:00] eric: well actually its a link to /dev/video0
[11:58:00] eric: and /dev/video0 links to /dev/v4l/video0
[11:59:00] otwin: and what device did you configure in myttv-setup?
[12:00:00] eric: mpg2 tuner, /dev/video...
[12:00:00] eric: i've tried /dev/video, /dev/v2l/video0
[12:00:00] eric: both dont' work
[12:01:00] otwin: and /dev/video0 ?
[12:01:00] eric: i haven't tried that
[12:01:00] eric: i figure it wouldn't work as well =)
[12:01:00] eric: want me to try it?
[12:02:00] otwin: don't know – but since your write about /dev/video /dev/v4l/video /dev/video0 i thought you might had mixed up things
[12:03:00] ccorax: "/dev/v2l/video0"???
[12:04:00] eric: /dev/video -> /dev/video0 -> /dev/v4l/video0
[12:04:00] otwin: if you use a pvr-x50 card u shouldn't have a /dev/v4l/
[12:04:00] eric: i have a pvr-150
[12:04:00] eric: and tahts the way its setup =)
[12:04:00] eric: should i disable v2l in my kernel?
[12:04:00] ccorax: what distro are you running??
[12:04:00] eric: gentoo
[12:07:00] eric: otwin: any idea?
[12:07:00] otwin: and don't even know what v2l is ;-) my pvr-250 and 350 are at /dev/video0 and /dev/video1
[12:08:00] eric: check if they link anywhere
[12:08:00] ccorax: eric, have you installed ivtv??
[12:08:00] eric: yes
[12:08:00] ccorax: version??
[12:08:00] eric: 0.3.8
[12:09:00] otwin: well /dev/video points to /dev/video0 but that myth looks for video0 anyway...
[12:09:00] eric: /dev/video0 points to anything?
[12:10:00] eric: maybe enabling "video for linux" is a bad thing?
[12:10:00] ccorax: and you haven't kompiled v4l modules into the core...
[12:10:00] otwin: no – links are not important important if your mythtv-setup is correct
[12:10:00] eric: how do you know?
[12:10:00] ccorax: sorry... compiled...
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[12:11:00] eric: ok, i have video for linux compiled into my kernel, is this wrong?
[12:11:00] ccorax: eric, I don't, but you should... ;-)
[12:12:00] eric: ?
[12:12:00] eric: why don't you and i shouldd?
[12:12:00] ccorax: you should know what you have done on your system...
[12:12:00] otwin: eric: as far as i understand it you do not need v4l for ivtv
[12:12:00] otwin: v4l is for bttv cards
[12:12:00] eric: ok, so i should remove v4l from my kernel?
[12:13:00] eric: ok, i have a good feeling about this
[12:13:00] eric: i think you're right
[12:13:00] eric: i enabled this because i didn't know what i was doing and i figured it wouldn't hurt to eneable a feature
[12:13:00] otwin: i guess it should work anyway since there are people with pvr's and bttv-based cards
[12:13:00] eric: but its for a different video card i just found out
[12:14:00] otwin: in one system
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[12:14:00] otwin: eric: maybe you should start with just one card ;-)
[12:14:00] eric: well its better than anything that i can come up with
[12:14:00] ccorax: eric, if you don't know then compiling it as a module is the safest...
[12:14:00] eric: i've tried everything
[12:14:00] eric: i only have one card =)
[12:15:00] eric: i always thought enabling extra stuff in the kernel couldn't hurt
[12:16:00] eric: ok, got my kernel all setup
[12:16:00] eric: imma reboot, brb...
[12:16:00] eric: :crosses fingers:
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[12:16:00] ccorax: eric, also if you don't know then I would suggest finding a "how to"... recompiling and optimising the kernel is not really the first thing you do....
[12:17:00] otwin: ccorax: very true...
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[12:19:00] eric: ok, now my ivtv drivers don't load correctly
[12:19:00] eric: 5 "unknown symbol" errors
[12:19:00] eric: when the ivtv driver is loaded
[12:19:00] eric: i'm guessing i do need video for linux
[12:19:00] eric: otwin: you there?
[12:19:00] eric: ccorax: ya there?
[12:20:00] ccorax: well did you specify compile as mod or did you remove it??
[12:20:00] eric: i removed it
[12:20:00] eric: i removed "video for linux"
[12:21:00] ccorax: eric, are you a beginner on linux??
[12:21:00] eric: not really
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[12:22:00] eric: i have a new kernel with "video for linux" removed from the kernel, now the ivtv drivers don't load and i get like 5 "unknown symbol" errors... someone please help =(
[12:23:00] eric: am i supposed to make the "video for linux" componenet of the kernel a module or do i want to remove it?
[12:23:00] ccorax: first, I would use a default kernel and get it to work before optimising it... don't change kernel unless you know why you do it or if someone tells you...
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[12:24:00] Skaface: hello
[12:24:00] eric: ok, well the way i had it before... my /dev/video was outputting an mpeg2 data that resembled static tv
[12:24:00] eric: so everything seemed ok
[12:24:00] eric: Skaface: help me! =)
[12:24:00] Skaface: im after some help regarding dual screens
[12:24:00] Skaface: only if you help me
[12:24:00] Skaface: :P
[12:24:00] eric: haah
[12:24:00] otwin: eric: are you following an howto? there must be good howtos for gentoo...
[12:24:00] eric: yes, i followed howtos
[12:24:00] eric: like 3 of them
[12:25:00] ccorax: compile it as "M" and then you need to remove all duplicates as you want the ivtv versions...
[12:25:00] ccorax: eric, how would you know if it's good MPG if you only got statics??
[12:26:00] eric: i got static as in, when you turn on your TV and the cable is unplugged
[12:26:00] Skaface: should i ask my question now or wait in line?
[12:26:00] eric: i didn't follow through with setting the frequency to a correct channel, etc
[12:26:00] eric: ccorax: i played it with mplayer
[12:27:00] eric: imma try including "video for linux" except not include the B82XX drivers
[12:27:00] ccorax: eric, go back and recompile kernel again with v4l with "M"...
[12:27:00] eric: why as a module?
[12:28:00] ccorax: also, don't forget to install the modules....
[12:28:00] eric: why not just include it?
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[12:29:00] otwin: eric: why include things you don't need – make it loadable, so you can always use it in you need it the future. that is my practice
[12:29:00] eric: either i need it or i don't... which one?
[12:29:00] eric: i don't like modules... i either include it or not
[12:30:00] eric: brb, imma try my new kernel
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[12:30:00] ** Skaface steps onto the stage **
[12:31:00] Skaface: ive got a duel screen setup, :0.0 is 1600x1200, :0.2 is 800x600 which is my tv screen
[12:31:00] Skaface: and i am trying to get myth frontend to run on the tv
[12:31:00] Skaface: i run mythfrontend -display :0.1
[12:31:00] Skaface: it runs on the tv, but it is scaled to 1600x1200
[12:32:00] Skaface: is there somewhere else in mythtv settings where i'm suppost to tell it what screen to use?
[12:33:00] otwin: eric: i don't know what modules i need in the future – but probably my problem is i don't like to compile kernels 3times a day...
[12:33:00] Skaface: he left
[12:33:00] ccorax: wow... I always thought optimising a kernel was so much easier when I know what modules are used by having them loaded by the systme as modules first... well I suppose it's much faster to guess and ask on forums what I need...
[12:35:00] ccorax: I also thought optimize a kernel should be done AFTER I have working system... I guess I'm soooo wrong....
[12:35:00] otwin: lol
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[12:36:00] eric: i'm still getting the same thing =(
[12:36:00] eric: any other suggestions guys?
[12:36:00] ccorax: ouch.... I think I need lunch...
[12:38:00] eric: i'm so sick of reading "Can't open video device: /dev/video"
[12:39:00] otwin: eric: try searching the list: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/
[12:40:00] eric: ok
[12:41:00] ccorax: Skaface, this question has been up before... search the irc-archive for help (but I can't remember when so you might have to search back a couple of weeks)... or wait until the US-guys are online (think it was one of them responding)
[12:42:00] Skaface: where can i find this irc archive?
[12:42:00] Skaface: dont worry, i got it :)
[12:49:00] eric: whats "default input" mean in the capture card setup menu?
[12:50:00] Skaface: the input that it selects by default
[12:50:00] Skaface: usually set to television
[12:50:00] Skaface: if thats the input that you use
[12:51:00] eric: i only have "composite" "s-video" and "tuner"
[12:51:00] Skaface: yeah, tuner
[12:52:00] eric: does it matter which one i use? tuner0 or tuner1?
[12:52:00] Skaface: just try one
[12:52:00] Skaface: i would try 0 first :)
[12:53:00] eric: i get the vibe that i'm just labeling the device so i can hook it up to the video source later on
[12:53:00] eric: is that what this tuner variable represnts?
[12:56:00] Skaface: you can use any of the inputs, you are just saying now which one is the one that it defaults to when you go to "watch tv"
[13:02:00] eric: ok, gotcha, thanks
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[13:10:00] Skaface: damn, i have it scaling properly now, but the tv wont show
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[13:10:00] Skaface: X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8
[13:10:00] Skaface: Major opcode: 142
[13:10:00] Skaface: Minor opcode: 19
[13:10:00] Skaface: Resource id: 0x0
[13:11:00] Skaface: over and over
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[13:12:00] eric: is the new pvr-150 supported by the ivtv drivers?
[13:12:00] fryfrog: by the beta / alpha 0.3.x series it is
[13:15:00] otwin: eric: i have seen people with sound problems, but it seems to work. after all, if you get static with cat /dev/video at least video seems to work. check your logging to see it gets initialized fine.
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[13:30:00] eric: its weird... when i cat /dev/video everythig is fine (well, i get a static picture with sound)... its just when i setup mythtv, thats when i receive problems
[13:30:00] eric: can somsone take a look at my ivtv dmesg lines and tell me if they look ok?
[13:30:00] eric: they seem kinda wrong but i'm not sure
[13:39:00] otwin: eric: what is the output of: /bin/dmesg |grep Initialized
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[13:44:00] eric: ivtv: Initialized WinTV PVR 150, card #0
[13:44:00] eric: but theres errors above that reported by ivtv
[13:45:00] eric: brb, new kernel
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[13:48:00] otwin: lol – he must have a cronjob running for compiling his kernel...
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[14:05:00] Skaface: nice, i got myth running properly on the second screen
[14:05:00] Skaface: using xinerama fixed all of my problems
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[14:18:00] ccorax: nice...
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[14:33:00] sandos: has anybody compared the regular matrox tv-out vs. a SCART-RGB cable quality-wise? Afaik RGB is a better quality signal/cabling...
[14:33:00] sandos: and also afaik interlacing should be possible to do correctly even over SCART-RGB
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[14:48:00] fryfrog: okay, QAM and Myth and Comcast are really kicking my ass :/
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[15:09:00] fryfrog: does anyone have any experience with HDTV / QAM?
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[15:40:00] fryfrog: man, this QAM and air2pc and myth is really busting my balls!
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[16:32:00] mobof: hi guys does anyone have any info on how to set up tv-out with a geforce 4 gti card from fresh knoppmyth install? :P
[16:33:00] mobof: pretty much everything works except the tvout :<
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[16:56:00] mobof: guess not ;/
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[17:01:00] JohnnyST: is there some hint of when next Mythtv version will be out?
[17:02:00] Beirdo: contact your ouiji board
[17:02:00] Beirdo: I think there are some show-stopping bugs in trac that will hold up the release, but it's really up to Isaac when releases happen.
[17:03:00] Beirdo: answer your question?
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[17:32:00] Chutt: haha
[17:33:00] beavis: heh, no livetv with the current svn
[17:33:00] Chutt: that kazan idiot emailed me:
[17:33:00] Chutt: Who are these people you let operate your chat channel?
[17:33:00] beavis: it's crawling aroung too much for dvb ;)
[17:33:00] Chutt: yeah
[17:33:00] Chutt: daniel knows and is fixing things
[17:34:00] beavis: great
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[17:37:00] rjune: Chutt: he got your email from the website?
[17:38:00] Chutt: sent it to my sourceforge account
[17:38:00] Beirdo: Chutt: that's priceless
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[17:40:00] jhoke: good morning
[17:40:00] Krazylegz: Guten morgen Herr jhoke!
[17:41:00] jhoke: danke
[17:42:00] jhoke: Anyone know if there is a script already existing to export current/upcoming recordings to RSS or Atom? I was thinking of creating a sidebar on my blog with "This week in MythTV"  :)
[17:42:00] Beirdo: cool idea
[17:43:00] Beirdo: don't know of one, but that's pretty neat
[17:43:00] jhoke: Ok, time for me to hit the SQL DB and check out the schema... all the data is there, its just a matter of finding it and formatting :)
[17:44:00] Beirdo: might be better to ask the backend so you don't have to recreate the algorithms
[17:44:00] jhoke: Hmmm... true
[17:45:00] Beirdo: mythweb does ask the backend to list the scheduled recordings
[17:45:00] Beirdo: it might be a good resource to figure out how :)
[17:45:00] jhoke: I will take a peek at how its doing it :)
[17:45:00] jhoke: Then its just a matter of choosing a syndication format (I prefer atom ... but RSS is easier) and parsing it :)
[17:46:00] Beirdo: yeah, stuff data into appropriate format...
[17:46:00] jhoke: I could possibly expand it to also be able to do listing of Videos ... but I may not want to publish that :)
[17:46:00] Beirdo: hehe
[17:46:00] Beirdo: click here to see the pr0n on my mythbox
[17:46:00] Beirdo: I think not
[17:46:00] jhoke: LOL
[17:46:00] Beirdo: heh
[17:47:00] jhoke: More like... Hmmm your Netflix queue... looks familiar...
[17:47:00] Beirdo: or that, either you wouldn't particularly want to be broadcasting to the world
[17:47:00] jhoke: if I did either ... you would be more than correct
[17:48:00] jhoke: Now, I would not be making either available for D/L via RSS, just a listing of the shows, no links
[17:48:00] Beirdo: well, yeah
[17:49:00] Beirdo: what would be cool would be to show what you've actually watched and when, but that would likely require more support in the DB
[17:49:00] Krazylegz: I think I'm missing the point.
[17:49:00] Krazylegz: Just to get people to come over to your place and watch what you've recorded with you? :-)
[17:49:00] jhoke: Krazy... nah... its just another list
[17:49:00] Beirdo: heh
[17:50:00] Beirdo: no, it's just for geekness factor
[17:50:00] jhoke: yep
[17:50:00] Beirdo: for me anyways
[17:50:00] jhoke: why? Because I can<tm>
[17:50:00] Beirdo: why? because I'm a geek!
[17:50:00] Krazylegz: Yes, that's reason enough.
[17:50:00] jhoke: :)
[17:51:00] Beirdo: and it would be a useful thing to have as an RSS feed in a blog
[17:51:00] Beirdo: heh
[17:52:00] jhoke: exactly... right now I have my netflix queue shown on mine, and a bunch of other stuff via magpie, so YARF (yet another rss feed)
[17:52:00] jhoke: http://john.hoke.org/index/asylum/netflix
[17:53:00] Beirdo: the other thing I'd put would be my audioscrobbler (or whatever they renamed it to) playlist
[17:53:00] Beirdo: last.fm
[17:54:00] jhoke: Beirdo, I thought they supported rss already
[17:54:00] Beirdo: yeah
[17:54:00] Beirdo: but I never bothered to add it
[17:54:00] Beirdo: hehe
[17:54:00] jhoke: what blog software do you use?
[17:54:00] Beirdo: wordpress
[17:54:00] jhoke: should be straightaway then ;)
[17:54:00] Beirdo: never looked into how to do it
[17:55:00] jhoke: I tried WP after MT... but went with EE (ya think blogware could be more than two letter acronyms?)
[17:55:00] Beirdo: tracks played:2141
[17:55:00] Beirdo: heh
[17:55:00] Beirdo: since May 25
[17:55:00] Beirdo: and that doesn't include when it was borked
[17:55:00] jhoke: I wish I could get at my previously watched queue from netflix... can only see what I have now and what is in queue
[17:56:00] Krazylegz: I don't blog. Is that weird?
[17:56:00] jhoke: Nope... not at all... for me it woudl be... been doing it for over 7 years in one form or another
[17:57:00] Krazylegz: Yikes.
[17:57:00] jhoke: Hmm... looks like I would just have to create my own print_page routine and I could lift all the hard work from mythweb :)
[17:57:00] Krazylegz: My website is......not so fancy.
[17:57:00] jhoke: Did you peek at my personal hell .. er... blog?
[17:57:00] Krazylegz: xris is going to eventually rewrite MythWeb (or so he says).
[17:57:00] Beirdo: you could make it a mythweb layout
[17:57:00] Beirdo: :)
[17:57:00] Krazylegz: No, I didn't.
[17:57:00] Beirdo: then everyone could use it
[17:58:00] Beirdo: argh
[17:58:00] jhoke: Beirdo ... very true ... for now I will just make it a seperate MythWeb page and send it to Xris to look over
[17:58:00] Beirdo: where did the RSS feeds go on last.fm
[17:58:00] Beirdo: fucktards
[17:58:00] Krazylegz: jhoke: I think yours looks nice.
[17:59:00] JohnnyST: Beirdo: I think so.
[17:59:00] jhoke: Krazylegz: ty... gonna rip it apart soon and redesign it ... I am in a minimalist mood and the current page is busy ;)
[17:59:00] Krazylegz: Ah.
[17:59:00] jhoke: Beirdo: I dunno... dont use it myself :(
[17:59:00] Krazylegz: Yeah, it's a bit busy, but aren't blogs going to be?
[18:00:00] jhoke: To a point, but look at the blog for my house construction http://hoke.org/house its alot less busy
[18:01:00] Krazylegz: Eh, they all look busy to me. It could have to do with the fact that I don't know who you are, and your personal life isn't all that interesting to me. :-)
[18:02:00] jhoke: LOL true ;)
[18:02:00] jhoke: blogs do tend to be a bit of mental/ego masturbation
[18:03:00] Beirdo: a lot of them
[18:03:00] Beirdo: or just a way to record stuff for others to see
[18:03:00] jhoke: yep
[18:03:00] jhoke: or a sounding board for some ideas... depends on the blogger
[18:03:00] Beirdo: yeah
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[18:04:00] jhoke: heya xris... your ears ringing?
[18:04:00] xris: ?
[18:05:00] jhoke: we were talking about ways to use mythweb to create RSS feeds of currently scheduled recordings
[18:05:00] jhoke: building off scheduled_recordings.php for example
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[18:16:00] xris: ahh
[18:16:00] xris: that'd be kinda cool
[18:17:00] xris: I really need to finish up this framework so I can get back into mythweb.
[18:17:00] jhoke: I copied scheduled_recordings.php to scheduled_recordings_rss.php in the main dir and in the theme dir and I am working on it now...I'll give you a URL to try when done
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[18:17:00] xris: cool
[18:18:00] jhoke: right now I am looking over the atom and rss formats... trying to map recording info -> entities ... not gonna be fun
[18:19:00] jhoke: grr.... this is going to take more headsweat than I can spare this afternoon (I have documentation I need to complete for a client) ... will get back to it tonight
[18:19:00] jhoke: Does anyone have a preference of Atom or RSS 2.0 ?
[18:20:00] ** Beirdo shrugs **
[18:20:00] Beirdo: I'd have to figure out how to integrate it into wordpress anyways
[18:20:00] Krazylegz: Do both! :-)
[18:21:00] jhoke: Krazy.. maybe...after I get one working I could add logic to use the other if a param is passed on the URL
[18:21:00] mobof: hi guys does anyone have any info on how to set up tv-out with a geforce 4 gti card from fresh knoppmyth install? :P
[18:21:00] fryfrog: i see why you all said that OTA ATSC was easier than QAM and why just buying an antenna is the way out :)
[18:22:00] jhoke: ok... back to documentation... the part I really hate about consulting is the documentation :)
[18:22:00] mobof: i cant even seem to stop my x-server, try ctrl-alt-backspace and the bloody thing closes and then starts up again straight away ://
[18:22:00] jhoke: mobof try init 3
[18:22:00] jhoke: and startx manually
[18:22:00] Beirdo: so don't run in the runlevel that autostarts X
[18:22:00] Beirdo: silly
[18:22:00] mobof: i duno im a linux noob :)
[18:22:00] jhoke: Beirdo: GMTA
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[18:23:00] mobof: i can follow documentation but no documentation tells me what i need to do ^^ :P
[18:23:00] jhoke: mobof: open a terminal window, type "su -" to switch to root (it will ask for root's password) then type init 3
[18:23:00] mobof: oh yeah i know how to do that, im not that bad but im not that good either :p
[18:23:00] jhoke: that will get you at console only runlevel... now you log out of root and relog as your regular user...
[18:24:00] mobof: ok
[18:24:00] jhoke: :)
[18:24:00] mobof: im trying to install nvidia drivers
[18:24:00] jhoke: Did you edit your xorg.conf file as per the docs?
[18:24:00] mobof: since im guessing cuz my xf86config has "vesa compatable" as my card name thats why i cant get my tv-out to wokrr :D
[18:25:00] mobof: well i duno i just used the latest knoppmyth from the cd, just followed their instructions
[18:25:00] mobof: everything works except the tvout :P
[18:25:00] jhoke: eek... sorry, I dunno jack about knopp :(
[18:26:00] jhoke: do a lsmod|grep nv and see if either the nvida or the nv module is loaded
[18:26:00] fryfrog: does myth have its own internal atsc scanner or does it also depend on something external?
[18:26:00] mobof: neither do i but i heard it was the easiest to setup, and i gotta say its pretty good – just followed the prompts so far and everything is working other than tvout, runs great on my monitor :)
[18:26:00] jhoke: (grasping here)
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[18:26:00] mobof: get nothing from that
[18:26:00] fryfrog: mobof: what happens if you *JUST* hook it up to your tv and run at 800x600 or 640x480?
[18:27:00] jhoke: ok, bbiab
[18:27:00] mobof: nothing
[18:27:00] mobof: just runs on my monitor at those res
[18:27:00] fryfrog: how can it run on your monitor if the only thing hooked up is the tv?
[18:27:00] mobof: but i think its cuz x aint using nvidia drivers, if they're even installed
[18:27:00] mobof: well i tried unplugging the monitor and just having tv plugged in and running 800x600
[18:27:00] malaTG: anyone here know how to calibrate a gamepad to work with mame mine is wrongly calibrated.....
[18:27:00] mobof: but no output on the tv
[18:28:00] fryfrog: have you *booted* up with only the tv hooked up?
[18:28:00] mobof: yep
[18:28:00] mobof: no output
[18:28:00] mobof: then i plugged my monitor in to check things and it's all there nice in mythtv frontend but wont output to tv
[18:29:00] fryfrog: ah, oh well
[18:29:00] fryfrog: i dunno enough bout knopp to help ya, but there are some general guides out there
[18:29:00] mobof: like i said i dont think it's using nvid drivers
[18:29:00] mobof: just 'generic vesa'
[18:29:00] fryfrog: so make it use em
[18:29:00] mobof: yeah but i duno how to do that :D
[18:29:00] mobof: well
[18:30:00] fryfrog: you read any of the guides?
[18:30:00] mobof: i trtied running something called nvidia-installer from nvidia's linux bit on their ftp
[18:30:00] mobof: yeah one said to use that
[18:30:00] fryfrog: try jarods, even though its for FC3 it should help a lot
[18:30:00] mobof: but thats when it wouldn't install cuz my x server wouldn't closed – so i'll try that
[18:30:00] mobof: ok cool got a url?
[18:31:00] fryfrog: search google for "mythtv fedora"
[18:31:00] fryfrog: should be the first or second result
[18:31:00] mobof: ok thanks
[18:32:00] fryfrog: arg, i am at my wits end with this QAM and air2pc!
[18:35:00] mobof: i might just go get one of those vga->scart cable things
[18:50:00] mobof: hmm
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[18:50:00] mobof: so i do init 3
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[18:50:00] mobof: and i still cant stop my x-serv ;<
[18:50:00] fryfrog: if i were you, i'd try Fedora Core 3
[18:51:00] fryfrog: its what all the great guides are written for
[18:51:00] mobof: :-/
[18:51:00] mobof: its just everything works so well, straight off the cd
[18:51:00] mobof: except for the tvout hehe
[18:54:00] fryfrog: the problem is you don't really understand enough to get it going
[18:54:00] fryfrog: and there is probably much more documentation for FC3
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[18:54:00] fryfrog: but X on TV is a very not-mythtv thing, so i would look for some knopp specific support
[18:54:00] fryfrog: i'm sure they have forums or an irc channel or mailling list?
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[18:55:00] mobof: mm sigh mabye i'll try it
[18:55:00] mobof: id just got my dvb guide grabber working too :P
[18:56:00] fryfrog: hehe
[18:56:00] fryfrog: by all means, try getting knopp + tv working
[18:56:00] fryfrog: it shouldn't be to hard, just switching to the "nvidia" driver should do most of it
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[19:03:00] sphing: is there a way to see if a certain client is watching a show?
[19:07:00] Chutt: nope
[19:08:00] ** Chutt waits for an apology from Colin McCormack **
[19:08:00] GreyFoxx: heh I saw that. tsk tsk
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[19:09:00] sputnik: how do i enable auto-transcoding?
[19:10:00] sputnik: there's a checkbox for auto-transcoding in the recording settings for my card, but the fedora howto warns me not to use it with a pvr250
[19:10:00] xris: what'd I miss?
[19:11:00] Chutt: read the dev list :p
[19:11:00] GreyFoxx: xris: Colin jumped on Isaac for closing a ticket with a snarky remark which was well deserved
[19:11:00] GreyFoxx: the snarky remark I mean ;)
[19:11:00] Krazylegz: Linky!
[19:11:00] Chutt: essentially, some guy submitted a patch to 'remove redundant includes'
[19:12:00] Chutt: it had a _lot_ of just reordering of code and meaningless changes – ie., he even changed the ifdef include guards
[19:12:00] Chutt: so i closed the bug, said it had extraneous changes and wouldn't apply it like that
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[19:12:00] Chutt: the guy then opens _3 new bugs_ that are just smaller, cut up versions of the same patch
[19:13:00] Chutt: none of the junk removed
[19:13:00] Chutt: so i close those and say, again, that the reason i'm not applying them is the useless changes in the patch
[19:13:00] xris: ouch
[19:13:00] Chutt: someone then reopens one of the bugs
[19:14:00] Chutt: http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/385
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[19:15:00] Chutt: and then i wake up to this shit:
[19:15:00] Chutt: http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/20 . . . /039862.html
[19:16:00] GreyFoxx: You INcivilized curr!
[19:16:00] GreyFoxx: hehe
[19:17:00] Krazylegz: Oooo, drama.
[19:17:00] Krazylegz: Like I said before, As the #mythtv-users Turns. :-)
[19:17:00] Chutt: pisses me off
[19:17:00] xris: I bet
[19:17:00] sphing: #mythtv-users beach
[19:18:00] Krazylegz: Days of Our #mythtv-users.
[19:18:00] Beirdo: heh
[19:18:00] ** Krazylegz waits to be kicked by Chutt **
[19:19:00] Chutt: heh
[19:19:00] Beirdo: some people are soooo stupid
[19:19:00] Chutt: oh yeah, i'm still opped
[19:19:00] Beirdo: "give me a good engineering reason to not accept my patch to YOUR project"
[19:19:00] Beirdo: how about this one.... piss off :)
[19:19:00] Chutt: it wasn't the same guy
[19:19:00] Beirdo: hehe :)
[19:20:00] Beirdo: but jeez
[19:20:00] Beirdo: some people are still dumb
[19:22:00] sphing: is there a mythtv wiki
[19:22:00] Krazylegz: Yes.
[19:22:00] sphing: i saw the guy that opened one on the mailing list... but is there an official one?
[19:23:00] Krazylegz: http://www.mythtv.info/
[19:23:00] Chutt: mythtv.info is moving to mythtv.org
[19:23:00] Chutt: if the guys doing the move ever get off thier collective asses and finish the transition
[19:23:00] Chutt: it's been 'moving
[19:23:00] Krazylegz: All questions can be answered by Beirdo's MythTV wiki.
[19:23:00] Chutt: err, 'moving' since february
[19:23:00] Beirdo: hah
[19:24:00] Beirdo: well, I would be happy to move that later too, but it's doing fine as it is now
[19:24:00] Beirdo: getting mythtv.info moved would be a far greater benefit
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[19:25:00] Beirdo: anyways, time for food
[19:26:00] xris: yeah. nice to have that all in one place.. and on a fast server.
[19:26:00] xris: or maybe it was just moin's suckiness being so slow
[19:26:00] Chutt: they run it in a vserver
[19:26:00] Chutt: some linode crap, i think
[19:28:00] xris: well, part of it is the css on the page, too.
[19:28:00] xris: position:fixed is horribly slow in linux firefox
[19:28:00] Chutt: so it's much slower than it would be on a linux machine
[19:28:00] xris: but searches/etc are also slow, yes.
[19:28:00] Chutt: err, 'real linux machine'
[19:28:00] xris: heh
[19:29:00] Chutt: my typing sucks
[19:29:00] Chutt: it's hard not using a finger
[19:29:00] xris: you smash it or something?
[19:29:00] Chutt: yeah
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[19:29:00] Chutt: rebuilding my deck, smashed it rather hard on saturday
[19:30:00] Chutt: front porch, not deck
[19:31:00] Beirdo: heh, it's not a linode-specific issue, Chutt. my wiki's on a linode, it's fine
[19:31:00] Chutt: it doesn't get slashdotted, though :p
[19:32:00] Beirdo: true
[19:32:00] Beirdo: thank GOD
[19:32:00] Chutt: mythtv's cvs server used to be in a vserver instance
[19:32:00] Chutt: err, not a vserver
[19:32:00] Chutt: ah, a uml
[19:32:00] Beirdo: ah yes
[19:32:00] Chutt: performance _sucked_
[19:32:00] Beirdo: vservers are so much nicer
[19:32:00] Chutt: then we switched to vservers and it was lots better
[19:32:00] Beirdo: xen is pretty sweet too
[19:33:00] Chutt: linode is all umls, though, i believe
[19:33:00] Beirdo: so far
[19:33:00] Beirdo: xen is the future though :)
[19:34:00] Beirdo: I use vservers at home, it works quite nicely
[19:34:00] Beirdo: as xen didn't suppor AMD64 yet (it may still not)
[19:35:00] Beirdo: but UML can be quite the dog. I'm surprised at how well it works at linode, actually
[19:35:00] Beirdo: they added custom I/O limiting tokens and stuff to keep one UML from killing the rest
[19:39:00] sphing: ugh... compiling on an xbox is the suck
[19:39:00] Chutt: distcc
[19:40:00] sphing: lol yea i should set that up eventually..
[19:40:00] sphing: i just chroot and compile on another machine
[19:40:00] Beirdo: I pity the fool who tries to run gentoo in a UML
[19:40:00] Beirdo: :)
[19:41:00] GreyFoxx: sphing: There truly is nothing to setup.
[19:41:00] Beirdo: especially with no distcc
[19:41:00] GreyFoxx: run distccd with the parameter telling it what hosts are allowed to connect and you are pretty much done
[19:41:00] Beirdo: GreyFoxx: it gets tricky if you don't use the same platform on your other machines
[19:41:00] Beirdo: i.e. x86 with an AMD64 buildserver... tis hell
[19:41:00] GreyFoxx: Beirdo: Yes, and I was assuming that wasn't an issue. But you are right
[19:42:00] Beirdo: but xbox is x86, so x86 buildserver... is a snap
[19:42:00] ** GreyFoxx taps his fingers waiting for Weblogic to finish starting **
[19:42:00] ** Beirdo wanders off to get some water **
[19:43:00] ** jams bets water will be fetched before weblogic starts **
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[19:43:00] GreyFoxx: I bet you are right
[19:44:00] GreyFoxx: Especially since whoever spec'd out this box was an idiot. 2 Oracle instances, Weblogic, Tomcat and other stuff on a box with 1G of ram
[19:44:00] GreyFoxx: 2 Weblogic's running
[19:45:00] Beirdo: ouchie
[19:46:00] Beirdo: mmm, water
[19:46:00] Beirdo: at least the office can't screw THAT up too badly
[19:46:00] GreyFoxx: ACtually it is possible
[19:46:00] Beirdo: they'd have to really try though
[19:46:00] Beirdo: especially as we use a filtered cooler
[19:47:00] GreyFoxx: The company that delivers the bottle'd water here changed their filtration methods(to cut costs) and the new stuff tasted like crap :)
[19:47:00] Beirdo: they are giving you what shoulda been filtered out?
[19:47:00] GreyFoxx: All I know is that the filtration was changed
[19:47:00] GreyFoxx: and everyone noticed right away
[19:48:00] Beirdo: not surprised
[19:49:00] GreyFoxx: nice, 2.2G into swap *sigh*
[19:49:00] fryfrog: time to quit storing that porn into memory :(
[19:50:00] GreyFoxx: I don't have enough ram (nor swap) for all my pr0n ;)
[19:50:00] fryfrog: bwhahah
[19:50:00] fryfrog: me either :)
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[19:52:00] GreyFoxx: wow, 11 minutes later it's up
[19:52:00] Beirdo: jeez
[19:52:00] GreyFoxx: WL is a pig and normally takes a 1–2 minutes
[19:53:00] GreyFoxx: but swapping just magnified the already poor performance
[19:53:00] Beirdo: oink oink
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[20:06:00] GreyFoxx: Hrm, interesting. My average recording size has dropped from 2.4 to 2.0G per hour In the last week, but I didn't change anything
[20:11:00] Beirdo: nice
[20:12:00] GreyFoxx: Every recording is 1G or 2G instead of the previous 1.1G/2.4G
[20:12:00] Beirdo: how odd
[20:12:00] Beirdo: and you're sure nothing changed?
[20:12:00] GreyFoxx: It changed between 10 and 11pm last thursday night
[20:12:00] Beirdo: like the exact duration?
[20:13:00] GreyFoxx: my 9–10 recording is 2.4, everything after(starting at 11pm) is the smaller size
[20:13:00] Beirdo: curious :)
[20:13:00] GreyFoxx: Beirdo: Nope
[20:13:00] GreyFoxx: I haven't touched bitrates, resolutions, nothing
[20:13:00] Beirdo: no I meant the exact lengths of the recordings
[20:13:00] GreyFoxx: And my last myth update was last Wednesday
[20:13:00] Beirdo: maybe they are a couple minutes shorter?
[20:14:00] GreyFoxx: Beirdo: No. All exactly 1 hour or 30Minutes. And I don't do any of that +- before/after stuff
[20:14:00] Beirdo: I guess the VBR is more V :)
[20:15:00] GreyFoxx: haven't touched ivtv in weeks, not from a myth update, not a settings change which I can verify by looking at my sql dumps from the last week for my recording profile
[20:15:00] GreyFoxx: very weird
[20:15:00] jhoke: has the actual (perceived) quality changed?
[20:16:00] Beirdo: maybe your cable signal's better, so it can compress slightly better
[20:16:00] ** Beirdo shrugs **
[20:16:00] GreyFoxx: I thought about that, maybe less noise = better compression. But nothing that it's noticable to my eye
[20:16:00] GreyFoxx: but it could very well be
[20:16:00] Beirdo: a curiosity anyways :)
[20:16:00] jhoke: Hmm, maybe the cable guy was on a pole in your area lately?
[20:16:00] GreyFoxx: It's just odd. a large change at that time of night :)
[20:16:00] Beirdo: not the end of the world
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[20:16:00] Beirdo: not like it went 2G -> 16G
[20:16:00] GreyFoxx: I can check my signal and see if there has been a change, brb
[20:17:00] Beirdo: that happened to me when I was using bttv
[20:17:00] Beirdo: heh
[20:17:00] Beirdo: I was pissed
[20:17:00] GreyFoxx: I'm not concerned as much as curious
[20:17:00] Beirdo: compress, you bitch!
[20:18:00] jhoke: I know this has been covered somewhere, but where can I change the font sizes in mythweather? I know its in an xml file, just forgot which one
[20:18:00] GreyFoxx: no, signal coming into the house seems to be the same. Maybe it's just cleaner in some way
[20:18:00] Chutt: weather-ui.xml
[20:18:00] jhoke: TY
[20:18:00] ** GreyFoxx marks it in the Weird category **
[20:19:00] jhoke: no signal change?
[20:19:00] GreyFoxx: Nope.
[20:20:00] GreyFoxx: At least no signal strength change, could still be cleaner on the way to my house
[20:21:00] jhoke: true... I have noticed here on Long Island my signal has gotten *a lot* cleaner over the past 2 – 3 weeks
[20:21:00] GreyFoxx: maybe they dropped someone who has been bleeding some noise back onto the line
[20:21:00] jhoke: new filter maybe?
[20:21:00] GreyFoxx: nothing new to my house, but otherwise *shrug*
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[20:29:00] fryfrog: anyone want a 3rd gen air2pc card, slightly used for 2 days? :)
[20:29:00] Beirdo: for free? sure
[20:29:00] fryfrog: oops
[20:29:00] fryfrog: want (to buy)
[20:30:00] Beirdo: now he changes his tune :)
[20:30:00] fryfrog: maybe i should just hit radio shack and see about an antenna
[20:30:00] kormoc: how much ya lookin to get?
[20:30:00] fryfrog: i wonder if any local stores have that channel master?
[20:30:00] fryfrog: what i paid :)
[20:30:00] kormoc: hehe
[20:30:00] Krazylegz: Beirdo: Ahahhahahaha. Selling an air2pc card and chaning his 'tune'. Hilarious. :-)
[20:30:00] fryfrog: i think it was like $170 :)
[20:31:00] fryfrog: stupid comcast and their QAM
[20:31:00] Beirdo: he didn't say selling :) he asked if anyone wanted it :)
[20:31:00] Beirdo: hehe
[20:31:00] ** Beirdo is a bastard today **
[20:31:00] fryfrog: thats true, i thought "want to buy" but left out the "to buy" :)
[20:31:00] Beirdo: :)
[20:31:00] fryfrog: what was the model # of that channel master?
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[20:33:00] Flamie: oh, lots of ppl..
[20:34:00] Flamie: Uhm.. I kindof need some help with getting sound work properly with a bt878 (leadtek 2000)
[20:34:00] Flamie: anyone happen to be bored enough? =)
[20:34:00] kormoc: Krazylegz, so I heard you got a house?
[20:34:00] fryfrog: oh, it says lowes has em!
[20:34:00] fryfrog: imma go look :)
[20:35:00] kormoc: Flamie, you might as well explain your problem a bit
[20:36:00] Flamie: Sure kormoc, here I go:
[20:36:00] Flamie: I've managed to set up myth once before, with delayed audio (cable running along the outside of the box) and choppy video when watching Tv
[20:36:00] Krazylegz: kormoc: Yes, in Quarryville.
[20:36:00] kormoc: nice :)
[20:36:00] Flamie: today I decided to get it going and spend some more hours at it
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[20:37:00] Flamie: so I get btaudio compiled
[20:37:00] Flamie: load it up and mix around with stuff
[20:37:00] Flamie: in the end I have it loading good, giving me the two dsp's and a mixer I can change volumes on
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[20:37:00] Krazylegz: http://www.hitracker.com/house/
[20:38:00] Flamie: setting volumes to 100 (max) and turning up my amplifier to _max_ (that is normally so loud my ears hurt) I get to hear 2 things:
[20:38:00] Flamie: noise
[20:38:00] Flamie: and TV sound behind it
[20:38:00] Flamie: but at least it means it works without the cable, and that the chip is capable of sending data via the pci-bus
[20:38:00] xris: ok, people here who look for jobs... is monster.com or dice.com a better place for me to post a job?
[20:38:00] kormoc: Krazylegz, haha, I had a friend who lived just down the street from ya :)
[20:39:00] jams: dice
[20:39:00] xris: jams: that's my thought, too.
[20:39:00] kormoc: Flamie, did you try the second dsp to see if it's the same or not?
[20:39:00] Flamie: I've noticed that the choppy video is related to tons of "prebuffering pause" (I get several/minute)
[20:39:00] Flamie: kormoc, yupp
[20:40:00] Flamie: I used sox to send the sound from a dsp to another
[20:40:00] Flamie: dsp3 (the analog one) gives the noise and tv-sound
[20:40:00] ** kormoc blinks **
[20:40:00] xris: hmm, monster is cheaper, though. I think $400 for 60 days is better than $400 for 30 days... and that's what HR will prefer.
[20:40:00] Flamie: dsp2 gives silence
[20:40:00] xris: oh well.
[20:40:00] kormoc: Flamie, yeah, most btaudio cards are analog only
[20:40:00] Flamie: worth mentioning, dsp3 sent to a file and played on my laptop gives me _clear, noisefree tv-sound_
[20:41:00] kormoc: Flamie, hrm, could be a rate issue, can you have myth set the capture rate to 44100 and see if that helps or not?
[20:41:00] Flamie: I tried that, and to set it to "do not limit"
[20:41:00] Flamie: both yield same results
[20:41:00] kormoc: Krazylegz, you know, if you're looking for a lug (Linux User's Group), you could join #lanc-lug and hook up with them
[20:42:00] Flamie: I also tried using sox at different rates, no difference there either
[20:42:00] kormoc: Flamie, that's really odd... Distro stats and what's your sound card?
[20:42:00] Flamie: I am using a soundblaster live (emu10k1) on gentoo, kernel 2.6.11
[20:42:00] kormoc: Flamie, so why use sox?
[20:43:00] Flamie: I just used sox for debuggin and finding what works and not
[20:43:00] Flamie: and to capture to a file
[20:43:00] kormoc: so having myth capture directly off of the /dev/dsp3 doesn't work?
[20:43:00] Flamie: right now I have, in mythsetup, set dsp3 for my tv-card
[20:44:00] kormoc: hrm.
[20:44:00] Flamie: that makes myth give me noise low-volume sound
[20:44:00] kormoc: what's the exact tv card you have?
[20:44:00] Flamie: but normally it wouldn't give me anything, so I'm happy about that :)
[20:44:00] Flamie: hang on, I'll show tha line from dmesg
[20:44:00] kormoc: (and you can pass a option to btaudio to only create the analog sound device)
[20:44:00] Flamie: bttv0: detected: Leadtek WinFast TV 2000 [card=34], PCI subsystem ID is 107d:6606
[20:44:00] Flamie: ttv0: using: Leadtek WinFast 2000/ WinFast 2000 XP [card=34,autodetected]
[20:45:00] Flamie: I could tell it to only make the analog device, but I doubt it will change anything, as the digital gives me silence and the audio captured from the analog to a file gives me what I want to hear
[20:46:00] Beirdo: I don't think that card supports btaudio at all
[20:46:00] Flamie: how do I add the options for disabling the digital (digital=0) in modules.autoload?
[20:46:00] Beirdo: mine sure didn't
[20:46:00] Flamie: Bierdo, so says the mythpage
[20:46:00] kormoc: Flamie, try capturing at 32000 rate
[20:46:00] kormoc: Flamie, with gentoo it's odd, one sec.
[20:46:00] Flamie: Bierdo; and I belived it, but reading further I found a diagram over the chip, and I have the needed connections
[20:47:00] Flamie: kormoc, sure hang on
[20:47:00] Flamie: same thing, lots of noise
[20:48:00] kormoc: Flamie, echo "options btaudio digital=0" > /etc/modules.d/btaudio
[20:48:00] kormoc: Flamie, modules-update
[20:48:00] kormoc: then it should not create the digital on reboot
[20:48:00] kormoc: Flamie, hrm, dmesg show anything by chance?
[20:48:00] Flamie: dmesg show lots of stuff, but not from btaudio or the soundcard
[20:48:00] jhoke: xris: I typically prefer dice
[20:48:00] Flamie: ttv0: OCERR @ 0ef7e014,bits: HSYNC OFLOW OCERR*
[20:49:00] Flamie: I get those every now and then when I put my computer to stress
[20:49:00] Krazylegz: kormoc: Thanks!
[20:49:00] kormoc: yeah, that's normal for bttv cards Flamie
[20:49:00] Flamie: btaudio: buffer overrun <- one of those as well I see now
[20:49:00] Krazylegz: Working from home, I have no friends. That would be awesome.
[20:50:00] kormoc: Krazylegz, they're good people, a bit nutty, but they do a lot of stuff outside the lug, wings is a typical one, once a week go out for a social night at a restraunt
[20:50:00] Flamie: kormoc: I just noticed one other thing:
[20:50:00] kormoc: Flamie, yeah?
[20:50:00] Flamie: when I play _anything_ I get that noise now
[20:50:00] kormoc: even say mp3's?
[20:50:00] Flamie: I didn't an hour ago, maybe it's just my soundcard ?
[20:51:00] Flamie: yeah, mythmusic
[20:51:00] kormoc: yeah, might wanna reboot and make sure?
[20:51:00] Flamie: k, I'll do that
[20:51:00] Flamie: one question before though:
[20:52:00] kormoc: sure
[20:52:00] Flamie: IGain and OGain on my soundcard
[20:52:00] Flamie: when I raise them I hear the noise and tvsound
[20:52:00] Flamie: but that seems to be the only way to get the tv-sound to come through
[20:53:00] kormoc: nothing on your soundblaster should do anything to the tv sound
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[20:53:00] Flamie: kormoc: wierd, as nothing on the btaudio mixer does anything >_
[20:54:00] kormoc: Flamie, the btaudio is it's own soundcard in practice, mine never did anything eather, some cards they do tho
[20:54:00] kormoc: Flamie, but ya, so like, the live is only used for playback and thus shouldn't affect capture at all
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[20:56:00] Jelte: hi all... i'm thinking of setting up a mythtv backend with a roku photobridge running a mythtv frontend solution... i'd like to have two tuners, so the Hauppauge PVR-500 springs to mind... are there other good (cheap) options?
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[20:57:00] Flamie: kormoc, I'm rebooting now, going to try to load and use the motherboard sound (via) and see if that changes anything
[20:57:00] GreyFoxx: Jelte: getting 2 150's is cheaper than a single 500
[20:58:00] GreyFoxx: so if PCI slots are not an issue then that might be a better option
[20:58:00] ccorax: jelte, just remember that PVR500 only has one radio tuner, connected to "tuner 0"... using 2x150 will give you 2 radio/TV-tuners....
[20:59:00] ccorax: if you are using MCE 150 versions... non MCE doesn't have radio...
[21:05:00] Flamie: kormoc: no difference after a reboot, building alsa drivers for via and sb-live
[21:08:00] jhoke: right, my 150 does not have a radio tuner (not that I care about it <G>)
[21:09:00] jhoke: and 500's are coming down in prices (new model immenent?)
[21:09:00] Jelte: ah .. thanks for the input.. i'll go for the 150
[21:09:00] Jelte: thanks, c ya
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[21:23:00] Flamie: kormoc: I found where the problem lies
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[21:24:00] Flamie: a sox copy from the dsp of my soundblaster gave me noise and low volume
[21:24:00] Flamie: so somehow the only thing that worked perfectly before is now malfunctioning >_<
[21:28:00] ivor: hmm, what directory does myth look in for channel logos by default?
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[21:30:00] kormoc: Flamie, that's odd indeed...
[21:30:00] Beirdo: check your mixer settings maybe
[21:30:00] Flamie: kormoc: not really, I went form alsa-drivers to oss
[21:31:00] Flamie: yeah, doing that now :)
[21:32:00] kormoc: Flamie, there's a bt alsa sound driver that sometimes works better then btaudio, might wanna give that a shot?
[21:32:00] Flamie: kormoc: I never even got it to load up >_
[21:32:00] Beirdo: good luck.
[21:33:00] Beirdo: you're likely best off using your soundcard's line in and giving up
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[21:35:00] Flamie: Bierdo: that was what I tried first :)
[21:35:00] Nemas: Hey Nuonguy did you get that table updated?
[21:35:00] Beirdo: Flamie: it should work well on line in
[21:36:00] Flamie: it once did, but I couldn't get it working some hours ago
[21:36:00] Flamie: and now I think this solution is better, if I can get it to work
[21:36:00] Flamie: (as it allows me to get synced sound, and to actually get sound on recordings :D)
[21:36:00] Beirdo: heh
[21:37:00] Beirdo: well, good luck, it's never easy to fight with that crap
[21:38:00] Nemas: How can I find out what device my tuner card was loaded as?
[21:38:00] fryfrog: dmesg
[21:38:00] Nemas: Thank you
[21:38:00] fryfrog: maybe with a |less for easy reading
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[21:43:00] Flamie: well, thanks kormoc, beirdo. Time for me to sleep
[21:43:00] Flamie: nighty-night everyone
[21:43:00] Beirdo: have a good one
[21:43:00] Flamie: *bounces off*
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[21:43:00] Beirdo: silly Europeans going to bed in the middle of the afternoon :)
[21:43:00] ** laga slaps Beirdo **
[21:43:00] Beirdo: heh
[21:43:00] Beirdo: hey there, laga
[21:44:00] laga: heya Beirdo ;)
[21:44:00] laga: sup?
[21:44:00] Beirdo: not much
[21:44:00] Beirdo: waiting for my coworkers to change firewall rules for me so I can finish my work
[21:44:00] Nemas: ok so cx88[0]/0: registered device video0 [v4l2] tells me that /dev/video0 is my capture card?
[21:44:00] Beirdo: yep
[21:45:00] Nemas: This is the full output relating to the card, can I paste it. It is 10 lines
[21:45:00] laga: hehe
[21:45:00] Nemas: Linux video capture interface: v1.00
[21:45:00] Nemas: cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.4 loaded
[21:45:00] Nemas: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 11
[21:45:00] Nemas: PCI: setting IRQ 11 as level-triggered
[21:45:00] Nemas: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:08.0[A] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[21:45:00] Nemas: cx88[0]: subsystem: 1002:00f8, board: ATI TV Wonder Pro [card=4,autodetected]
[21:45:00] Nemas: cx88[0]/0: found at 0000:01:08.0, rev: 3, irq: 11, latency: 64, mmio: 0xfd000000
[21:46:00] Nemas: tuner 1–0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (cx88[0])
[21:46:00] ** laga is watching star trek VI **
[21:46:00] Nemas: tuner 1–0060: type set to 44 (Philips 4 in 1 (ATI TV Wonder Pro/Conexant))
[21:46:00] Nemas: tda9885/6/7: chip found @ 0x86
[21:46:00] Nemas: cx88[0]/0: registered device video0 [v4l2]
[21:46:00] Nemas: cx88[0]/0: registered device vbi0
[21:46:00] fryfrog: Nemas: spam -> pastebin.com
[21:46:00] Nemas: Do I use the cx88 drivers for the myth setup or video0?
[21:46:00] Nemas: Ahh sorry
[21:47:00] fryfrog: and what do you mean?
[21:47:00] Nemas: I have vbi0 and video0
[21:47:00] fryfrog: you should probably be using the "v4l" (video for linux) setting
[21:47:00] fryfrog: pointing to /dev/v4l/video0
[21:47:00] fryfrog: vbi is sub-titles, afaik?
[21:48:00] Beirdo: closed captioning
[21:48:00] fryfrog: is there a difference between subtitles and closed caption?
[21:48:00] fryfrog: OMG!
[21:48:00] Nemas: How can I set it to v41? Sorry I am a noob at this setup
[21:48:00] fryfrog: i can see some crappy HDTV!
[21:49:00] fryfrog: yes, i can see your monitor now so .... i know what "it" means
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[22:05:00] HeMan: Hi! Can i make the "icons" clickable in mythfrontend?
[22:05:00] GreyFoxx: HeMan: You can't
[22:06:00] HeMan: ok
[22:06:00] Icks: only 'clickable' one is the highlighted one
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[22:06:00] GreyFoxx: Even then It's only during input fields/setup screens
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[22:07:00] HeMan: i have a tablet pc with touch-screen and i'd like to use it as "remote" for mythtv and it would be really nice if i could just click the icons
[22:07:00] HeMan: is there any other feature that i could use for that?
[22:08:00] Nemas: Is North America (Data Direct) in the setup screen also www.zap2it.com
[22:08:00] GreyFoxx: Nemas, it does refer to zap2it's xml listing service
[22:09:00] GreyFoxx: Heman, none I know of. I just started writing a onscreen control app that sites outside the borders of my myth window for my touchscreen monitor
[22:09:00] Nemas: Thank you Greyfoxx
[22:09:00] GreyFoxx: But if you ONLY want a remove on the table there is something I believe
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[22:09:00] GreyFoxx: Either mythweb with the remote patch, or maybe the mythcontrols plugin (which I've never even glanced at)
[22:09:00] HeMan: i haven't tried the web interface, could that be used?
[22:10:00] GreyFoxx: I've never looked at anything but a screenshot of it. But it might be an option
[22:11:00] HeMan: i'll give it a spin
[22:11:00] kormoc: the web interface can't be used to control a frontend
[22:11:00] HeMan: but i think i should get some real hardware for the backend first...
[22:11:00] GreyFoxx: kormoc: There was a remote control patch for it someone had a while back
[22:12:00] GreyFoxx: for controlling a frontend
[22:12:00] kormoc: niceness
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[22:12:00] GreyFoxx: I looked at the screenshot, but never used it
[22:12:00] Icks: is there anyway to set a timezone in mythtv?
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[22:12:00] GreyFoxx: Icks. You set the timezone on the PC, myth reads it from there
[22:13:00] Icks: i did that and it's reading udt i think, 4 hours ahead of est anyway
[22:13:00] reggman2: Anybody seeing transcode causing a memory leak in FC4?
[22:13:00] HeMan: i'll create a mapping for my Sony Ericsson K750i as remote for mythtv when i get my hardware
[22:13:00] GreyFoxx: After changing the timezone you might verwell need to regrab your listings data. I've never had to change my timezone to find out
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[22:15:00] Icks: i acually set the time offset in setup -400 and everything works right now cept the time mythtv thinks it is is 4 hours
[22:16:00] Icks: off
[22:16:00] GreyFoxx: The offset is likely just for program listing processing. It likely gets the the time directly from the OS
[22:16:00] sputnik: reggman2: what process?
[22:16:00] sputnik: transcode?
[22:16:00] GreyFoxx: I've never had to change the timezone on any myth box
[22:17:00] HeMan: is it possible to compile mythtv to use directfb instead of X?
[22:18:00] GreyFoxx: HeMan: It's an option during compiletime. But It doesn't get used often so it could very well bomb
[22:18:00] HeMan: ok
[22:19:00] Icks: i guess my problem is fedora 4 thinks local time is udt .. i just clicked it over to edt on the menu, i guess i need to figure out how to set my timezone in fedora
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[22:20:00] HeMan: hmm, perheps i should try to make buildroot to build mythtv for me...
[22:20:00] HeMan: has anyone tried to use it on uclibc?
[22:21:00] GreyFoxx: I've seen people ask about it on the mailing list. No idea if they succeeded
[22:24:00] Chutt: there was a patch that fixed compilation on uclibc, but it wasn't ever cleaned up like i had asked it to be
[22:24:00] Chutt: had a ton of ifdefs that could've been easily avoided
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[22:28:00] smoke_: hey ... do i add the path to the font im going to use in my theme file?
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[22:28:00] Flamie: Woooot!! :D
[22:28:00] Beirdo: hey Flamie... couldn't sleep?
[22:28:00] Flamie: I just had to try a few more stuff
[22:28:00] Flamie: and it works now, no cable :)
[22:28:00] Beirdo: hehe, I know how that goes
[22:28:00] Beirdo: well done
[22:29:00] Flamie: good volume and no noise :)
[22:29:00] Flamie: now, I have only one problem left (not audio related)
[22:29:00] Flamie: the video is kindof choppy, anyone have any performance tips? =)
[22:29:00] Beirdo: fiddle the bitrate
[22:30:00] Beirdo: depending on your CPU, you will have to tweak it some
[22:30:00] Flamie: bitrate of what? sound?
[22:30:00] Beirdo: and don't be afraid to tweak the audio quality setting too
[22:30:00] Flamie: I got a xp 1800
[22:30:00] Beirdo: audio and video
[22:30:00] Beirdo: you should be OK with that, but it can't hurt to tweak things
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[22:48:00] sputnik: Beirdo: hey, what bitrate are you using for archival?
[22:48:00] sputnik: in xvid
[22:48:00] Beirdo: I archive mostly onto DVD in VCD format
[22:49:00] sputnik: ah, ok
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[22:53:00] simon_c_home: Hi, I'm configuring my remote control (got it working at last :-) ) How can I find out what the various commands myth can use ? For example, what command do I put in for the "enter" key ?
[22:54:00] ivor: whoa stallone's Get Carter is spectacularly bad.
[22:56:00] orb_rox: simon_c_home: mythweb, or select * from keybindings where hostname='foo';
[22:57:00] laga: simon_c_home: take a look at keys.txt, especially at the last part of the file
[22:58:00] simon_c_home: orb_rox and laga: Thanks
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[23:23:00] sandos: ivor: yeah, the soundtrack is good though =)
[23:25:00] Uberbot: Shido6?
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[23:27:00] Rince: evening
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[23:35:00] Nemas: Whoot!! Got it running!!
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[23:36:00] Nemas: One question tho. When doing mythfilldatabase I get 401 access denied from the zap2it server. I set up a account and everything. Anyone know where I could be going wrong?
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[23:45:00] kahuna_: Hi. I'm thinking about putting a pchdtv card in a SFF case with only 1 PCI slot. What are my options for remote control?
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[23:49:00] Beirdo: fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
[23:49:00] ** Beirdo beats his coworkers with a stick **
[23:49:00] ** kormoc hands Beirdo a clue bat **
[23:49:00] Beirdo: way to develop using the wrong version of an API, fucktards
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[23:53:00] sputnik: Beirdo will you come beat my coworkers?
[23:53:00] Beirdo: heh
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[23:54:00] sputnik: you could start a business
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[23:55:00] Delgul: hi... I have a strange problem. I have no sound, but ONLY during live tv. New recordings have sound, music too, movies too... just during live tv i have not. And the strange thing is that I didnt change anything lately... Any ideas anyone?
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