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| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | there we go |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | stupid Java POS |
| [19:35:00] | jhoke: | lol |
| [19:35:00] | Beirdo: | I should take the 3h to write one in C and get it over with |
| [19:35:00] | jhoke: | speaking of java.. need coffee |
| [19:35:00] | jhoke: | brb |
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| [19:37:00] | ** Beirdo slaps MythLogBot. Stop being such a bitch! ** | |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | musta had a netsplit |
| [19:37:00] | jhoke: | lol |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | it doesn't like em much. when the net rejoins, it messages everyone who came back, and gets excess floods sometimes, and gets booted |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | which will get fixed whenever I rewrite it |
| [19:39:00] | chuggachu: | Does anyone have a recommendation for a home-brew IRblaster they like? |
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| [19:49:00] | Chutt: | kazan you are a coward, grow some balls and learn something about the law before you try to parrot it – from US vs ElcomSoft – decision of the court "Merely offering a product that could violate copyrights was not enough to warrant a conviction, the jury instructions said." |
| [19:49:00] | Chutt: | privmsg to me |
| [19:49:00] | Chutt: | =) |
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| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | he did that to me too |
| [19:50:00] | Chutt: | that's funny |
| [19:50:00] | Chutt: | considering that i had absolutely nothing to do with that conversation |
| [19:50:00] | ** Twiun grins ** | |
| [19:50:00] | Twiun: | I've yet to receive a pm from him |
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| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, he's being a putz |
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| [19:51:00] | Chutt: | he's offline again |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | and he says we are cowards. hehe |
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| [19:55:00] | sphing: | i think i'm the only person who cant xbox remote working |
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| [20:08:00] | sphing: | can anyone help me with lirc... there is no lirc0 ... but the modules is loaded and dmesg says: lirc_xbox[3]: Xbox IR on usb1:3 |
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| [20:22:00] | beavis: | xris: it doesn't help if I mv the file, the filename is correct (I can ls on the filename myth tells me is missing) |
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| [20:29:00] | jhoke: | res |
| [20:29:00] | jhoke: | Here's a slightly off topic question... what do you all use for DVD Label printing under Linux? |
| [20:30:00] | xris: | beavis: yes. but you could mv the file to a non-umlaut name, and then fix the db, right? Or mythrename might even work with a different --format |
| [20:30:00] | xris: | jhoke: you mean those things with the glue that eats through dvd media? |
| [20:30:00] | ** xris uses his trusy sharpie ** | |
| [20:30:00] | Chutt: | heh, yet another message from him |
| [20:30:00] | Chutt: | what a moron |
| [20:30:00] | xris: | Chutt: yeah, he sent me crap, too. |
| [20:30:00] | jhoke: | xris: yeah those, and inserts for cases |
| [20:31:00] | laga: | beavis: what can the new naming convention do for me? ;) |
| [20:31:00] | beavis: | laga: ? |
| [20:31:00] | ** Beirdo uses a sharpie too ** | |
| [20:31:00] | kormoc: | sharpie ++ |
| [20:31:00] | jhoke: | I use a sharpie for my stuff... but I need to put somethign together for my daughter to bring to school ;) |
| [20:31:00] | Beirdo: | including to put "NFG" on coasters |
| [20:32:00] | xris: | jhoke: I don't make 'real" dvd's of my recordings. |
| [20:32:00] | Beirdo: | on the recorded surface :) |
| [20:32:00] | jhoke: | where archival quality is not as important as say looking purrty |
| [20:32:00] | laga: | beavis: i've heard they changed the way recordings are named. what are their names like now? |
| [20:32:00] | xris: | laga: starts out with chanid_starttime.mpg (or nuv) |
| [20:32:00] | xris: | but I rewrote mythlink to name them anything you want. |
| [20:33:00] | laga: | oh, great :). gotta try it soon. |
| [20:33:00] | beavis: | laga: 17403_20050926221000.mpg |
| [20:33:00] | xris: | beavis: if it's an issue with mythtv (and not mythrename itself) not understanding the utf-8, then submit a bug report. |
| [20:33:00] | Beirdo: | I liked having the endtime too, but I'll get used to it... once I upgrade |
| [20:33:00] | beavis: | laga: or just Blueprint – 2005-09–05, 8–38 AM.nuv after mythrename was executed |
| [20:33:00] | laga: | beavis: and mythtv will still know them? |
| [20:33:00] | xris: | beavis: did you try changing --format for mythrename? |
| [20:33:00] | beavis: | laga: yes |
| [20:34:00] | laga: | beavis: awesome news. |
| [20:34:00] | beavis: | xris: it appears with umlauts in the recording list |
| [20:35:00] | beavis: | xris: it also shows the right characters for the Title if I press U on the recording |
| [20:35:00] | beavis: | xris: I didn't use --format, I assume it's too late now |
| [20:36:00] | xris: | beavis: not what I asked |
| [20:36:00] | beavis: | everything is already renamed |
| [20:36:00] | xris: | beavis: it should rename again just fine |
| [20:36:00] | xris: | can use --format to restore them to their original format |
| [20:36:00] | xris: | look at --help |
| [20:37:00] | beavis: | oh great, it can use the good european 24h time style :-D |
| [20:38:00] | beavis: | is it possible to use the system default setting for the format? |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | the international 24h time style? |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:39:00] | beavis: | yes :) |
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| [20:40:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, nah, the european 24 h time style is 8 hours ahead of the us/canada 24h time style :P |
| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | beavis' time would be wrong by 6h |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | for me |
| [20:44:00] | beavis: | xris: but it's not possible to change the character set for mythrename, isn't it? |
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| [20:47:00] | smoke__: | what is the use of mythbrowser?... like, it s suppose to go on the web, but its blank on mine, what do i need thats missing? |
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| [20:49:00] | xris: | beavis: afaik, perl follows the charset of your shell |
| [20:49:00] | jhoke: | smoke: have you configured any bookmarks or startpages in setup? |
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| [20:50:00] | smoke__: | jhoke, no... how do i do that? |
| [20:50:00] | smoke__: | ah |
| [20:50:00] | smoke__: | i see it |
| [20:50:00] | smoke__: | sorry :) |
| [20:51:00] | beavis: | xris: hmm, but there are no umlauts in the file names |
| [20:51:00] | jhoke: | smoke__: N/P :) |
| [20:52:00] | smoke__: | also |
| [20:53:00] | xris: | beavis: oh, it's pulling from the db.. and not converting. |
| [20:53:00] | smoke__: | it says soemthing about cant find mime type, stream-ocelet or soemthing |
| [20:53:00] | smoke__: | what package dependancy am i missing? |
| [20:53:00] | xris: | you have charset inconsistencies somewhere. |
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| [21:05:00] | jhoke: | gyah... external drive on my mac is dying... #@$#%! |
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| [21:06:00] | smoke__: | why is my mythtv audio cd ripoper looking for cdrom_fd? |
| [21:06:00] | smoke__: | device? |
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| [21:20:00] | beavis: | xris: mysql sets the default char set to utf8, it looks like myth itself also uses utf8 to display the title |
| [21:20:00] | Twiggy: | Hey is there a way I can force a "startx" command if mythtv crashes? |
| [21:21:00] | Twiggy: | I have my machine setup to just boot straight into myth, but sometimes the frontend will crahs and bump me back to the console |
| [21:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Twiggy: Sounds more like X is crashing if you are dropping to aconsole |
| [21:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Otherwise mythfrontend would go away and you'd still have X running |
| [21:23:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: well, if he only has mythfrontend in his .xinitrc, he will go back to the console |
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| [21:24:00] | Twiggy: | GreyFoxx: Well I have my X setup to just go straight into myth, there's nothing for X to drop to |
| [21:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Well not running a window manager is just silly :) |
| [21:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | Twiggy: Ok |
| [21:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | You could just configure whatever launches X to use a looping shell script instead ? |
| [21:24:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: hehe |
| [21:24:00] | Chutt: | you'd think that if someone could mess around with their init scripts, they would be aware of loop constructs |
| [21:25:00] | Twiggy: | I followed a howto :oP |
| [21:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chutt: heh |
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| [21:25:00] | Twiggy: | GreyFoxx: Is that safe? |
| [21:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | A Howto that tells you to avoid a window manager is written by someone who should be smacked. They are just asking for focus issues |
| [21:26:00] | Twiggy: | Alright, how would you suggest I do it with a window manager? |
| [21:26:00] | Twiggy: | I have twm installed, and I had it configured to boot twm while I was working out the bugs |
| [21:27:00] | Twiggy: | err had it configured to boot myth in twm rather |
| [21:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Does twm have an autoexec feature to auto launch an app on startup ? |
| [21:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool |
| [21:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | just change out mythfrontend for a shellscript that looks infinitely calling mythfrontend |
| [21:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | s/looks/loops |
| [21:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's ugly, but it would do the trick |
| [21:28:00] | fryfrog: | air2pc card here! |
| [21:28:00] | Twiggy: | dirty tricks are sometimes best |
| [21:28:00] | Twiggy: | thankya |
| [21:28:00] | fryfrog: | quick opinion: |
| [21:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | But of course if you have serious problems it could cause a spiral of death |
| [21:28:00] | fryfrog: | in master backend or slave? |
| [21:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | as it keeps launching and dying |
| [21:28:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: you could add some sleeps |
| [21:28:00] | fryfrog: | master is a server, alwasy up (with 2 pvr250s) |
| [21:28:00] | fryfrog: | i think master |
| [21:28:00] | Twiggy: | GreyFoxx: Nah it only dies when you try to overload it it seems |
| [21:28:00] | whyz: | hello, i'd like to hear how you guys use your pvr's if you use your regular workstation as pvr.. do you start up a new X session with xinit :1 layout mythv, or do you use the tv as :0.1? i can't use the menu in mythtv using a different X server for myth if i don't do ctrl alt f8 to switch to :1 first |
| [21:28:00] | Twiggy: | GreyFoxx: Whip throuhg a ton of shit then go to the main menu from livetv or something, never crashes on loadup |
| [21:29:00] | fryfrog: | whyz: you can run mythbackend and it will record, you don't *need* mythfrontend running all the tiem |
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| [21:29:00] | whyz: | fryfrog, i know that, it's actually recording right now.. but when i'm irc'ing, my girlfriend cannot use the menu on the tv at the same time :/ |
| [21:31:00] | whyz: | quitting on me, are we? :/ |
| [21:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | whyz: I'd launch a seperate X server with a different layout (different resolution etc) |
| [21:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I don't do that on any of my existing frontends |
| [21:33:00] | whyz: | that's exactly what i've done.. but i have to do ctrl alt f8 for the menu to be controllable (or, it's rather that the framebuffer does not get updated if it's not the current screen) |
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| [21:33:00] | whyz: | i can still change channels and stuff though |
| [21:33:00] | whyz: | but if i want to go out to menu, all is black until i issue ctrl alt f8 |
| [21:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, that would depend on how you are controlling the app |
| [21:34:00] | whyz: | via the remote control |
| [21:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you use lirc that would not be required. If you are using a keyboard you need to specify the right keyboard in the right layout |
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| [21:34:00] | whyz: | i am using lirc |
| [21:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | BUT if you use lirc and have it send keyevents then it will send them to the active app. |
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| [21:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you send them via the lircrc file then they do directly to myth |
| [21:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | go |
| [21:35:00] | whyz: | i use the lircrc file provided in jarods tutorial |
| [21:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | which since I've never looked at it means nothing to me :) |
| [21:35:00] | whyz: | :) |
| [21:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | of course I also don't use lirc |
| [21:36:00] | whyz: | you don't? :/ |
| [21:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, I've avoided it after seeing all the pain and instability people go through |
| [21:36:00] | whyz: | hehe :) |
| [21:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | My remotes are lirc free :) |
| [21:37:00] | Nuxi: | Hi, does anybody know how to retrieve EPG data from TV signals? |
| [21:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nuxi: You mean that Guide+ stuff? That would be nifty to have built in if it's accessible through the tuner |
| [21:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Though I'd be happily suprised to see it be accessible without tying up the tuner and not being able to record at the same time |
| [21:38:00] | Nuxi: | I'm also asking what hardware I need to do this. |
| [21:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't know of anyone doing it, but I've never looked either |
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| [21:40:00] | Nuxi: | Also, the PBS time signals would be nice to be able to get. |
| [21:42:00] | rjune: | Hmmmm, anybody ever consider modding mythmusic to display to a serial device? |
| [21:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm sure the people using serial based LCD/VFD displays have at least considered it :) |
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| [21:51:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [21:51:00] | Chutt: | who cares about the broadcast flag anymore |
| [21:52:00] | ** Beirdo bashes his head against the wall repeatedly ** | |
| [21:52:00] | Chutt: | most of the networks are reducing bandwidth for multicasting now |
| [21:52:00] | Beirdo: | stupid network ACLs |
| [21:52:00] | Chutt: | so hd looks like shit |
| [21:52:00] | laga: | multicasting? do you mean broadcasting hdtv and stv at the same time? |
| [21:53:00] | smoke_: | whats the resolution of the mythtv view area? |
| [21:53:00] | smoke_: | 800x600? |
| [21:53:00] | Chutt: | laga, and additional extra channels |
| [21:53:00] | Chutt: | smoke, it's whatever you run it at. |
| [21:54:00] | Chutt: | laga, like nbc's 'weather plus' channel |
| [21:54:00] | smoke_: | Chutt, where do i specify that? |
| [21:54:00] | ivor: | http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004000.php |
| [21:54:00] | Chutt: | in the settings |
| [21:54:00] | laga: | Chutt: oh, ok. that sucks :/ |
| [21:55:00] | Chutt: | ivor, right, but there's no reason to record in hd if it looks horrible |
| [21:56:00] | ivor: | indeed. its the same with all broadcasters they're too desperate to shove more channels over the limited bandwidth they have, they just say screw quality. |
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| [21:57:00] | Chutt: | some shows actually look better in sd, since there's no macroblocking |
| [21:57:00] | Chutt: | no mpeg artifacts due to reduced bandwidth |
| [21:57:00] | Chutt: | and the local station can't fuck things up and forget to turn on the hd feed =) |
| [21:58:00] | ivor: | whats the quality of over the air dvb like in the US? |
| [21:58:00] | Chutt: | it's not dvb |
| [21:58:00] | Chutt: | stuff _used_ to look great |
| [21:58:00] | ivor: | ok I forget the name. :) |
| [21:58:00] | Chutt: | 1080i/720p, no artifacts unless you lost signal for whatever reason |
| [21:59:00] | ivor: | interesting the uk dvb (although just 720x576) seems to have improved in quality considerably recently. |
| [21:59:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: I've got one, I'm tossing around the idea |
| [21:59:00] | ivor: | I think they're pumping up the digital transmitters and degrading the analog signals. |
| [22:01:00] | whyz: | does anyone know how to get the program guide to show the current tv show up in the right corner instead of having it fullscreen and the menu transparent? i'd like it like this: http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/epgvideo.png |
| [22:02:00] | Chutt: | disable the 350's decoder. |
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| [22:03:00] | whyz: | heh |
| [22:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or maybe someone with one could add code to move the currently playing window+scale it when using the 350's decoder? |
| [22:05:00] | Chutt: | the decoder really can't do that, though |
| [22:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | I thought I had seen someone on the ivtv-dev list say it could be placed anywhere on the screen and the video would be scaled internally |
| [22:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | but not having a 350 I skimmed right past it |
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| [22:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | uses similar calls to what they are using for the XV placement/scalling |
| [22:07:00] | Chutt: | ah, possibly |
| [22:07:00] | whyz: | k, i'll just lower the transparency i bit i guess :) |
| [22:09:00] | whyz: | next question might be a bit off topic... does Visualization for mythmusic need opengl support? or why is it just black on my screen? :) |
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| [22:10:00] | whyz: | found the answer, nwm |
| [22:10:00] | whyz: | nvm even :P |
| [22:13:00] | fryfrog: | well, QAM with the air2pc is harder than i thought it'd be :) |
| [22:13:00] | fryfrog: | but i had never seen the channel scanner in Myth! |
| [22:15:00] | ivor: | what additional processing is a frontend doing viewing live TV rather than a recording? |
| [22:16:00] | Chutt: | none |
| [22:16:00] | ivor: | that's what I thought. very strange. |
| [22:16:00] | fryfrog: | it depends on if you have a software card and the backend on that system |
| [22:17:00] | xris sets mode -o xris | |
| [22:17:00] | ivor: | Chutt: I used to use an old vaio as an occasional frontend (ages ago)... I tried again yesterday and was hitting 85% CPU on live TV, but about 50% on a recording. |
| [22:18:00] | Chutt: | that's odd |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | different resolution settings or bitrate settings, perhaps? |
| [22:19:00] | ivor: | is there any network overhead to playing live TV or anything strange like that? |
| [22:19:00] | fryfrog: | it'd be very similar (if not the same) to playing a recording |
| [22:19:00] | ivor: | wonder if it's feasible to callgrind mythfrontend.... |
| [22:20:00] | Chutt: | there is network overhead |
| [22:20:00] | Chutt: | but it'd be the same as a recording |
| [22:20:00] | fryfrog: | could your live tv and default profile have different configurations? |
| [22:20:00] | ivor: | harumph. mysterious. |
| [22:20:00] | fryfrog: | like Beirdo said, different bitrate and/or resolution? |
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| [22:21:00] | Beirdo: | that would be my first guess, I know my livetv is different than my recordings |
| [22:21:00] | fryfrog: | lower or higher quality? |
| [22:21:00] | ivor: | no it's all the same... possible it was a "freak" bad/strange transmission. |
| [22:21:00] | Beirdo: | lower :) |
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| [22:21:00] | Beirdo: | I never use livetv pretty much |
| [22:21:00] | fryfrog: | ivor: is the laptop *really* crappy? |
| [22:22:00] | ivor: | just wanted a sanity check before burning any time trying to figure out whats happening. |
| [22:22:00] | fryfrog: | i mean, maybe a 30% jump isn't that much on a 500mhz cpu :) |
| [22:22:00] | mchou: | maybe the crappy shared memory display? :) |
| [22:22:00] | fryfrog: | ARG, mythtv-setup just seg faulted at like channel 120 scanned! |
| [22:22:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [22:23:00] | Chutt: | ivor, live-tv's getting a small reworking, so, wouldn't bother just yet |
| [22:23:00] | fryfrog: | man, that takes forever! |
| [22:24:00] | ivor: | Chutt: ooh really? sorry I've been out of the loop with myth for a while. been snowed under. what's happening? |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | I should update to latest SVN again sometime |
| [22:24:00] | fryfrog: | if i have cable hdtv, using QAM and have a labs.zap2it account that says HD channels are "755–844" would i want to bind that profile to the card? |
| [22:24:00] | fryfrog: | or should i just use the channel scanner? |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | I'm like 3–4 weeks behind right now |
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| [22:24:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: channel scanner |
| [22:24:00] | Keith: | hey guys- ihave two weird problems i need help with |
| [22:25:00] | Chutt: | ivor, bug #340, i think |
| [22:25:00] | fryfrog: | thanks mchou |
| [22:25:00] | ** ivor trots off to trac. ** | |
| [22:25:00] | Keith: | first things first- i used to use s-video to watch mythtv but not anymore. all of a sudden it keeps jumping to s-video and not outputing to monitor at all. what file do i have to edit to turn off the s-video? |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | that would be an X config thing |
| [22:25:00] | Keith: | which file? xorg.conf? |
| [22:26:00] | mchou: | Keith: what display card is this? |
| [22:26:00] | Keith: | you mean my pvr-150? |
| [22:26:00] | mchou: | svid out or in? |
| [22:26:00] | Chutt: | ivor, it's one of the two blocker level bugs, if that's not the right number |
| [22:27:00] | Keith: | svid out |
| [22:27:00] | ivor: | yup that's the one. reading it now. move to fixed files rather than ringbuffer. |
| [22:27:00] | Keith: | im trying to stop it form going svid out |
| [22:27:00] | mchou: | Keith: so what display card is this? |
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| [22:27:00] | Keith: | i dont know – it was built into my asus pundit and i never learned the name for it |
| [22:28:00] | Keith: | i just edited some general file someone told me to edit and poof i could output to s-video |
| [22:28:00] | Keith: | but i switched over to using a flatscreen monitor instead for a long while |
| [22:28:00] | Keith: | and it always worked till today |
| [22:28:00] | Keith: | actually i think this has to do with the other problem im having |
| [22:28:00] | mchou: | I dont know shit about pundit |
| [22:28:00] | Keith: | when i tell it to record something, it refuses to save my recording settings and show that i chose the thing to be recorded |
| [22:31:00] | Keith: | anyone? |
| [22:31:00] | eiggirC: | Keith: no idea sorry – I've heard of pundits |
| [22:32:00] | Keith: | hmmm thats strange |
| [22:32:00] | Keith: | my mythbackedn says.... |
| [22:32:00] | Keith: | that theres an error getting channel 3 |
| [22:32:00] | Keith: | check capture card |
| [22:32:00] | Keith: | hmmm |
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| [22:33:00] | Beirdo: | do you even have a channel 3? |
| [22:34:00] | Keith: | ha i got it to work |
| [22:34:00] | Keith: | i realized what was wrong |
| [22:34:00] | Keith: | but now im having a different problem entirely |
| [22:34:00] | Keith: | when i go into the program guide and hit enter on an item |
| [22:35:00] | Keith: | it brings up the recording screen fine |
| [22:35:00] | Keith: | but when i tell it to record something |
| [22:35:00] | Keith: | i hit save these settings |
| [22:35:00] | Keith: | the program guide doesnt show the symbol for the recording |
| [22:35:00] | Keith: | and when i hit on the item again it says that its not scheduled to be recorded |
| [22:37:00] | xai: | What type of hardware-encoding cards are recommended and have native linux 2.6 kernel support? |
| [22:37:00] | laga: | xai: how do you define native? |
| [22:37:00] | mchou: | native? |
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| [22:37:00] | Keith: | anyone know hwo to fix my problem? it seems to be just a mythtv problem |
| [22:38:00] | xai: | laga: in korg kernels. |
| [22:38:00] | laga: | korg? |
| [22:39:00] | xai: | korg=kernel.org |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | if you mean have support in vanilla kernels... |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | none |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | you need to get the drivers from the sites that write them as they aren't in there yet |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | ivtv for PVR150/250/350/500 |
| [22:40:00] | xai: | ok.. those work in 2.6 kernels? |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | as far as I know |
| [22:40:00] | Keith: | resechedule requested for item 75 |
| [22:40:00] | Keith: | scheduled 0 items for blah blah blah |
| [22:40:00] | Keith: | thats what it says in the backend everytime i try to tell it to record osmething |
| [22:41:00] | laga: | ivtv works fine with 2.6 |
| [22:41:00] | kormoc: | yeah, ivtv is grand with 2.6.x |
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| [22:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, ivtv rocks! |
| [22:42:00] | laga: | ivtv is teh shit. best thing since sliced bread. |
| [22:42:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [22:42:00] | ** kormoc laughs evily as everyone running ivtv from the next release on will be running code he wrote! ** | |
| [22:42:00] | kormoc: | my two line patch got accepted :P |
| [22:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | laga, sliced bread in loaf form! |
| [22:42:00] | laga: | note to self: avoid upgrading |
| [22:42:00] | laga: | SlicerDicer-: hehe |
| [22:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | laga, yep I aint upgrading mine till shit hits the fan with the 2.6.11 kernel |
| [22:43:00] | kormoc: | laga, it was just fixing a issue with 2.6.13-r6+ kernels :) |
| [22:43:00] | xai: | geirdo: what about the dvb cards, do they require more resources? |
| [22:44:00] | mchou: | geirdo weirdo |
| [22:44:00] | ivor: | heh, latest unichrome code has dropped mythfront cpu usage down to 13%. |
| [22:44:00] | xai: | s/geirdo/Beirdo |
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| [22:44:00] | ivor: | smart. |
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| [22:45:00] | mchou: | ivor: how does unichrome output compare to nvidia? |
| [22:45:00] | ** xris wishes he had money for mythbox (and tv) upgrades. ** | |
| [22:45:00] | ivor: | ? define compare. |
| [22:46:00] | ivor: | it puts the same dots on the screen given the same source data. :) |
| [22:46:00] | mchou: | ivor: like picture quality and whatnot |
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| [22:55:00] | xai: | I see bt878 support is native to the new kernel.org kernels. |
| [22:56:00] | laga: | xai: it's been there for a very, very, very, very long time. |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | and they aren't hardware encoding cards |
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| [22:57:00] | xai: | ok... thanks. |
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| [22:58:00] | xai: | Sure. i see "frame grabber" right inthe description.. |
| [22:58:00] | laga: | and they suck for use with mythtv, imho |
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| [22:59:00] | xai: | ok. thanks.. i'll stick with ivtv |
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| [23:00:00] | kormoc: | xai, they are lower quality and use software to grab the data and encode it, it can eat 40% of a 2.4 ghz cpu quite easily. |
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| [23:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey kormoc |
| [23:06:00] | kormoc: | hihi |
| [23:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | how many frontends can you run off your system? |
| [23:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I had 4 running on mine yesterday on a 1.4ghz I am wondering how much power is really needed hehe |
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| [23:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | SlicerDicer-: Very little |
| [23:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's mostly just streaming data over the network |
| [23:08:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, donno, I'd say I could run 10 easy enough without noticing, depending on disk io and all that jazz, could likly do 100 if not more in theory |
| [23:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx, so my network limit is my limit of frontends? |
| [23:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | SlicerDicer-: Within reason yes |
| [23:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [23:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so umm... on gigabit ethernet its pretty much just insanity? |
| [23:09:00] | Beirdo: | at that point you'll be disk-bound before network-bound |
| [23:09:00] | kormoc: | yeah. |
| [23:09:00] | laga: | Beirdo: what if he's using solid state disks? ;) |
| [23:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | It wont hurt you, but it;s not really gonna help |
| [23:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | My god I'm getting some nasty la |
| [23:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | g |
| [23:10:00] | Beirdo: | then he'd be even worse off |
| [23:10:00] | Beirdo: | solid-state isn't fast |
| [23:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Beirdo, umm no?> |
| [23:10:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, ooh? |
| [23:10:00] | Beirdo: | unless you mean ramdisk |
| [23:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Beirdo, crack smoke much? solid state is ramdisk |
| [23:10:00] | Beirdo: | solid-state refers primarily to FLASH |
| [23:10:00] | Beirdo: | which is slow |
| [23:11:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, well, it's both in all reality. |
| [23:11:00] | laga: | Beirdo: well, some company made a 'hard disk' – you have to put 2 or 4 ram bars into it and connect it over serial ata. it's kind of fun. |
| [23:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | laga, gigabyte :P |
| [23:11:00] | laga: | Beirdo: but it's not *that* fast. quite fast, but slow given how fast ram actually is |
| [23:11:00] | Beirdo: | ram isn't really solid-state |
| [23:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | laga, my favorite mobos :) |
| [23:11:00] | laga: | SlicerDicer-: right |
| [23:11:00] | Beirdo: | lose power – lose contents |
| [23:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | laga, the problem is SATA is too damn slow to take advantage of it |
| [23:11:00] | laga: | Beirdo: they have a battery, but you're right. |
| [23:12:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, there's certain types of ram that is, which is slower then system ram, but faster then flash I've thought. |
| [23:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Beirdo, I think the backup time on that solid state is like 10 hours or something |
| [23:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the gigabyte one |
| [23:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, that gigabyte dealeo takes ddr ram :) |
| [23:13:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, yeah, but I mean there's something like 6ns solid state ram out there, iirc. |
| [23:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but even with sata at 100% flow with that |
| [23:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 4gb aint shit for mythtv |
| [23:13:00] | kormoc: | 4gb == 6 hours for myself :) |
| [23:13:00] | Beirdo: | useless |
| [23:13:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | exactly |
| [23:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, but seek time means dick its sustained data rate right? |
| [23:13:00] | Beirdo: | buy a SAN, it's money better spent |
| [23:14:00] | xris: | SAN is expensive. |
| [23:14:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, actually seek times are more important in real world to be honest |
| [23:14:00] | eiggirC: | google is seven years old. |
| [23:14:00] | Beirdo: | xris: you think enough RAM to store myth recordings is MORE than SAN? |
| [23:14:00] | Beirdo: | haha |
| [23:14:00] | Beirdo: | I mean isn't? |
| [23:14:00] | xris: | Beirdo: our SAN product starts at $13k |
| [23:14:00] | xris: | but yes. |
| [23:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, well yeah but what I am saying is that if you have a platter harddrive vs ddr ram the seek time aint really going to be a big deal is it? |
| [23:15:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, sustained data is grand if you're just gonna stream stright from the disk in perfect order, but data is very rarely layed out like that and likly you're accessing the disk in more then one area at a time |
| [23:15:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, and to get 200G of RAM in a disk setup... |
| [23:15:00] | Beirdo: | would be a lot more than that |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | yes |
| [23:15:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:15:00] | Beirdo: | SAN is money better spent :) |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | hard to compare the two, though |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | NAS would work for home users. |
| [23:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, but I thought windows has defragment for that *snicker* /me shields off all flames with great ease |
| [23:15:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, actually, that's one of the big reasons ram is so much faster, 2ns look up vs 12 ms seek :) |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: where is kormoc that you're talking to him? |
| [23:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, eh? |
| [23:16:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [23:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: You got him on ignore ? :) |
| [23:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | [06:15pm]<kormoc> SlicerDicer, actually, that's one of the big reasons ram is |
| [23:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | so much faster, 2ns look up vs 12 ms seek :) |
| [23:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | [06:16pm]<xris> SlicerDicer-: where is kormoc that you're talking to him? |
| [23:16:00] | xris: | hahaha... I apparently aliased him and added him to my buddy lists so he shows up as Rob |
| [23:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [23:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol xris |
| [23:17:00] | xris: | been sitting here for a couple of weeks thinking that there was someone else in the channel. |
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| [23:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | hahaha |
| [23:18:00] | Beirdo: | haha |
| [23:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh hey btw kormoc I found out that all those dvd's i got with my burner that made 50 high quality coasters.... |
| [23:18:00] | Beirdo: | good one |
| [23:18:00] | xris: | I don't think I did it at home, so I only noticed at work |
| [23:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I got some good TDK ones and the first on burnt flawless |
| [23:18:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, niceness :) |
| [23:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anybody need 50 coasters :P |
| [23:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [23:18:00] | Beirdo: | play ultimate frisbee with them |
| [23:18:00] | kormoc: | mailing them to AOL |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | practise skeet shooting |
| [23:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I was going to give them to my neighbor for target practice but they are required to use biodegradable stuff |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | just do it |
| [23:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Beirdo, alredy thought of it |
| [23:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | like the lead from the shot is biodegradable |
| [23:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ROFL!!! |
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| [23:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats a interesting point |
| [23:20:00] | xris: | Beirdo: did you miss the eco-ammo post at treehugger.com last week? |
| [23:20:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:20:00] | xris: | no lead, safer for groundwater. |
| [23:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well shit xris |
| [23:21:00] | Beirdo: | what do they make it with? bullshit? |
| [23:21:00] | xris: | and I think a lot of "shot" type ammo (bird/buck/etc) is steel |
| [23:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | there goes the saying I am going to pump you fulla lead |
| [23:21:00] | xris: | or coppper |
| [23:21:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I think a lot of shot isn't lead anymore |
| [23:21:00] | Beirdo: | but the same thing goes for any other metal you are embedding into things |
| [23:21:00] | xris: | most bullets I've seen are lead inside of copper or brass casings. |
| [23:21:00] | xris: | yes. but lead is particularly bad for groundwater, etc. |
| [23:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I think it should all go to beanbags |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
| [23:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | those beanbags rock |
| [23:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or meat bullets like on mythbusters! |
| [23:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then the birds can clean it up |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | just get rid of guns for other than survival hunting |
| [23:22:00] | xris: | the eco-ammo is made for shooting ranges... it breaks apart to avoid ricochet, etc. |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | we don't need the stupid things |
| [23:23:00] | Beirdo: | they are fun, but OH so dangerous |
| [23:23:00] | ** xris would rather shoot arrows at targets, anyway. ** | |
| [23:23:00] | xris: | guns area too expensive. |
| [23:23:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [23:23:00] | simon_c_home: | grrrrr. I'm still having a world of grief getting lirc to work. Not strictly mythTV I know. I'm getting the correct stuff on irw now, but ircat isn't showing what I'd expect it to. |
| [23:23:00] | Beirdo: | I want a catapult |
| [23:23:00] | Beirdo: | OK, there's a use for a gun |
| [23:23:00] | ** Beirdo shoots simon_c_home's remote ** | |
| [23:23:00] | Beirdo: | there, all fixed |
| [23:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Beirdo, nice! |
| [23:24:00] | simon_c_home: | Beirdo: lol |
| [23:24:00] | xris: | Beirdo: ballista is more fun. |
| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | lirc is such a nightmare |
| [23:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but catapults are not as fun as trebuchet :) |
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| [23:24:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: isn't one a type of the other? |
| [23:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.castlewales.com/trebucht.html |
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| [23:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no a trebuchet is very differnet than a catapult |
| [23:25:00] | xris: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catapult |
| [23:25:00] | xris: | trebuchet is a type of catapult. |
| [23:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | bah |
| [23:25:00] | xris: | but man, that clears up some major confusion I had about greek ballistas (small hand-held rock throwers) |
| [23:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | trebuchet did not use tension to fire it |
| [23:26:00] | xris: | we dug up some ballista stones in israel, and I was really confused. |
| [23:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it just used a weight that would be hoisted then dropped |
| [23:26:00] | simon_c_home: | well, however I throw it out of the window, I'd like to get it working first. |
| [23:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | catapults required tension |
| [23:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | IIRC anyway |
| [23:26:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: read the article. |
| [23:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok |
| [23:26:00] | xris: | arm + throw |
| [23:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Any machine that hurls an object can be considered a catapult |
| [23:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | arm = catapult |
| [23:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | human = machine |
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| [23:27:00] | xris: | yup |
| [23:27:00] | xris: | esp. since it's now a verb. |
| [23:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [23:27:00] | simon_c_home: | why on would irw work, but ircat not ? I've used the sample .lircrc fragment showin in the ircat man page, and still nothing. |
| [23:28:00] | xris: | funny how catapult and ballista have switched meanings |
| [23:29:00] | ** xris has fired a real (1/4 scale) ballista.. pretty cool. ** | |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | I wanna break shit |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:29:00] | SqWaw: | When I press channel up, the channel doesn't change, I have to manually do it with ptune.pl. Can anyone help me? |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | I love days like this |
| [23:29:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [23:30:00] | NightBird: | mythtv no longer goes to the menu when I hit escape... |
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| [23:30:00] | SqWaw: | Oh wow, I eat my words.... |
| [23:30:00] | xris: | SqWaw: something else taking over the device? |
| [23:30:00] | SqWaw: | It started working |
| [23:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, at any rate the trebuchet still kicked ass |
| [23:31:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: yes. no argument, there. |
| [23:32:00] | NightBird: | it just quites.. |
| [23:32:00] | Beirdo: | fetchez la vache! |
| [23:32:00] | xris: | I've fired one of those, too.. though not as nice of a toy as the ballista (trebuchet was poorly made) |
| [23:32:00] | Beirdo: | fetchez la vache! |
| [23:32:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:32:00] | Beirdo: | get ze cow... |
| [23:33:00] | xris: | that's what I thought you said. |
| [23:33:00] | xris: | no hurling dead plague-infested animals in-channel. |
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| [23:33:00] | Beirdo: | I need to go watch monty python and the holy grail again :) |
| [23:33:00] | Beirdo: | I loved when they hurled the trojan rabbit back out |
| [23:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:34:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
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| [23:44:00] | greatdane: | Asked this question earlier but hoping there's someone here now with some knowledge about it: Getting a "pure virtual method called" error message in the mythbackend log and the mythbackend is exiting at the same time. Anyone have any ideas? |
| [23:44:00] | Beirdo: | woof |
| [23:44:00] | Beirdo: | google might |
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| [23:44:00] | greatdane: | tried google came up with nothing except some dev discussions |
| [23:44:00] | smoke_: | hey anyone have a good url for mythtv themes? |
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| [23:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | argh sometimes I hate growisofs |
| [23:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | locks up my computer all the time lol |
| [23:45:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:46:00] | Beirdo: | never had that problem |
| [23:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dvd burning? |
| [23:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cd burning never does it |
| [23:46:00] | greatdane: | it, happens when I attempt to change channels. |
| [23:46:00] | Beirdo: | I only use growisofs for DVDs |
| [23:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://kerneltrap.org/node/5155 |
| [23:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats similar to my issue Beirdo |
| [23:47:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, I am still at work, no time to investigate :) |
| [23:48:00] | Beirdo: | gotta update these f'ing man pages |
| [23:48:00] | Beirdo: | god, how I hate writing man pages |
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| [23:49:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, hrm. |
| [23:49:00] | kormoc: | can growisofs 'burn' to a image? |
| [23:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what you mean? |
| [23:50:00] | Beirdo: | stupid IRC. |
| [23:50:00] | Beirdo: | 12s delay? eat me |
| [23:50:00] | Beirdo: | ummm, I dunno |
| [23:50:00] | Beirdo: | that's what mkisofs is for |
| [23:50:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, can you have it 'burn' to a fake disk, to see if it's a issue with growisofs or the kernel driver |
| [23:51:00] | Beirdo: | if it's locking up, it's the driver |
| [23:51:00] | Beirdo: | unless you do something really special, an app CAN'T lock up Linux |
| [23:51:00] | Beirdo: | only something kernel-level can |
| [23:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | umm let me check kormoc |
| [23:51:00] | Beirdo: | and I don't think that growisofs uses realtime priority or anything funky like that |
| [23:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | growisofs locks though I cannot kill the process when that happens |
| [23:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and it slowly brings my computer to its knees |
| [23:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have to powerdown by powerbutton |
| [23:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | image writes fine kormoc |
| [23:53:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, hrm, it is most defently a kernel issue. |
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| [23:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, :/ |
| [23:53:00] | Beirdo: | duh |
| [23:53:00] | kormoc: | you see, mine does the same thing and I thought it was cause it was a dead drive... |
| [23:53:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, any fix in sight? |
| [23:54:00] | kormoc: | beavis, I've had a lot of programs hardlock the box when it shouldn't :P |
| [23:54:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, i donno, given I havn't really looked into it. I'll dig around a bit |
| [23:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, it does suck too |
| [23:54:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sometimes it wastes dvd's |
| [23:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and those really aint cheap |
| [23:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 41$ for 100 of them hehe |
| [23:55:00] | Beirdo: | $0.41 each isn't cheap? |
| [23:55:00] | Beirdo: | jeez |
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| [23:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | not compared to 100 CD+R for 5$ |
| [23:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [23:56:00] | Beirdo: | I remember when FLOPPIES were more than $1 each |
| [23:56:00] | Beirdo: | calculate price per MB |
| [23:56:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, still a bit more :P |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | not much though |
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| [23:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont like wasting money cause of a program crash does that work better? |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | it's not a program crash |
| [23:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I mean I have to play my dvds all the way though cause I am afraid of the dreaded "cannot read disk" cause the thing went stupid |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | it's a kernel driver issue |
| [23:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah yeah |
| [23:58:00] | ** Beirdo hugs 2.4 kernels with idescsi ** | |
| [23:58:00] | NightBird: | hey, can someone help me? I don't get the main menu at all now... when I start mythtv frontend, it goes directly to tv mode, and when I hit escape, it quits mythtv... |
| [23:58:00] | Beirdo: | works flawlessly every time |
| [23:58:00] | Beirdo: | how are you starting it? |
| [23:58:00] | NightBird: | mythtv |
| [23:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah well I cant really use 2.4 kernel now can I? |
| [23:59:00] | Beirdo: | that's why |
| [23:59:00] | Beirdo: | the command is mythfrontend |
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| [23:59:00] | NightBird: | ah |
| [23:59:00] | Beirdo: | mythtv does exactly what you got :) |
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| [23:59:00] | Beirdo: | SlicerDicer-: of course you can |
| [23:59:00] | NightBird: | ok |
| [23:59:00] | NightBird: | thanks |
| [23:59:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, do you have the dvd/cd packet thing in the kernel compiled in? |
| [23:59:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:59:00] | Beirdo: | no problem |
| [23:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Beirdo, AMD64 :P |
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