Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Saturday, September 24th, 2005, 00:01 UTC

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pyrodex:

ha they have started closing GA schools monday and tuesday due to the impending increase in gas prices.

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pyrodex:

Man what ever happened to a snow day...

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kormoc:

it's oil days now

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pyrodex:

yea...

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SqWaw:

bleh...

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SqWaw:

maybe 5 more minutes

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Cardoe:

heh

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laga:

pyrodex: GA?

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pyrodex:

Georgia

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laga:

oh. how much does it cost?

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pyrodex:

Last i checked it was 2.69 for reg

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pyrodex:

Was 2.54 last night

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laga:

per gallon?

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SqWaw:

Cardoe, done

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pyrodex:

ye

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pyrodex:

a

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Cardoe:

What are you crying about?

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Cardoe:

that's not insane prices

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laga:

pyrodex: in germany, it's 1.39 euro/1l (about a third of a gallon)

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pyrodex:

Hmmmm

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Cardoe:

gcc-config

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Cardoe:

er

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Cardoe:

gcc-config -l

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pyrodex:

Cardoe I am not crying, I can't believe they are shutting down school is what I am pissed about

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Cardoe:

that a lowercase L

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pyrodex:

Its stupid

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pyrodex:

But when the gas scare hit it was up to 5 dollars a gallon before they put laws on it

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Cardoe:

SqWaw: does it show gcc-3.4.4 as the first one?

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Cardoe:

i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 *

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Cardoe:

that's what you want to see

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SqWaw:

eh?

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SqWaw:

[1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.6 *

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SqWaw:

i switched it to: [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4

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kormoc:

good

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SqWaw:

using: gcc-config -f 6

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kormoc:

env-update

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SqWaw:

is that okay?

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kormoc:

source /etc/profile

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kormoc:

yes, you wanted to do that

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SqWaw:

okay

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SqWaw:

im ready

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SqWaw:

wow, im soo smart :)

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kormoc:

emerge -a unmerge <sys-devel/gcc-3.4

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SqWaw:

EWWWW: i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.6-hardenednopie <-- who would want to use a compiler that doesn't give you any pie?

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SqWaw:

try agian...

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kormoc:

make sure that it's only going to unmerge gcc versions less the 3.4

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SqWaw:

again*

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SqWaw:

bash: sys-devel/gcc-3.4: No such file or directory

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kormoc:

drat

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SqWaw:

heh

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kormoc:

emerge -a unmerge \<sys-devel/gcc-3.4

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kormoc:

needed to escape the < for bash

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SqWaw:

sys-devel/gcc

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SqWaw:

selected: 3.3.6

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SqWaw:

protected: none

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SqWaw:

omitted: 3.4.4-r1

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kormoc:

there ya go

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SqWaw:

thats all

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kormoc:

so unmerge! :)

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SqWaw:

removing 3.3.6...

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SqWaw:

gone

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SqWaw:

gcc-config doesn't list any 3.3.6 versions.

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kormoc:

do the update command and see if gtk+ is gone.

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SqWaw:

update cmd...?

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kormoc:

the one Cardoe was having you run

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SqWaw:

emerge -auDv --newuse world ?

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kormoc:

yup

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SqWaw:

/usr/bin/python: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

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SqWaw:

got an error ^

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SqWaw:

emerge is broked :(

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kormoc:

hrm

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kormoc:

you env-update and source /etc/profile?

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laga:

game over, please insert new distro ;)

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kormoc:

nah

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SqWaw:

MythTV ~ # env-update

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SqWaw:

/usr/bin/python: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

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kormoc:

just need to update the link to the stdc++.so

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SqWaw:

/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/libstdc++.so.5 <-- exists.

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kormoc:

SqWaw, you did that before you unmerged it like I said?

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SqWaw:

kormoc, yes i did

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SqWaw:

wb utilz

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SqWaw:

wb ulitz*

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kormoc:

SqWaw, odd...

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ulitz:

hey hey

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SqWaw:

wheere should it be looking for libstdc++ ?

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Cardoe:

whoa whoa whoa

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SqWaw:

i can ln, right?

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Cardoe:

no no

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kormoc:

Cardoe, no?

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Cardoe:

gcc-config -l

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SqWaw:

kormoc, no

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SqWaw:

[1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 *

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kormoc:

Cardoe, he did update his gcc progile.

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Cardoe:

env-update

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Cardoe:

source /etc/profile

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ulitz:

still having trouble with nuvexport.. getting a compilation error it looks like at nuvexport line 30.,. which is use lib dirname($ENV{'_'} or $PROGRAM_NAME), '/usr/share/nuvexport', '/usr/local/share/nuvexport';

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SqWaw:

MythTV ~ # env-update

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SqWaw:

/usr/bin/python: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

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Cardoe:

I wasn't gonna have him remove the old gcc

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SqWaw:

Cardoe, ^

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kormoc:

Cardoe, ooh. wouldn't it have kept it as a dep tho?

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MrSpiffy:

.

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SqWaw:

so erm... is my sys broken?

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kormoc:

SqWaw, give me a lil :P

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ulitz:

got the latest version.. the older version seems to work but I get Audio format not supported by import module when the import module is import_mpeg2.so installed by mpeg2enc I think

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SqWaw:

a lil what...

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SqWaw:

faith?

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laga:

(installing a gcc from a stage tarball could help)

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SqWaw:

eek.

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SqWaw:

laga, sounds annoying :(

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kormoc:

SqWaw, time, I'm tring to figure out why your python is looking for a older version of libstdc++ then mine is...

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laga:

hehe

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laga:

well, i dont know what exactly is broken

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SqWaw:

oh okay.

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Cardoe:

kormoc: because it compiled against gcc 3.3.6

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kormoc:

Cardoe, so it's gcc version dependant?

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Cardoe:

kormoc: he needed to preform a few critical steps before getting rid of the old gcc

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Cardoe:

yes

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kormoc:

oh shit.

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SqWaw:

can someone host a libstdc++.so.5 and i'll wget it and put it where it belongs?

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Cardoe:

libstdc++ is gcc dependant

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kormoc:

I was under the impression that was one of the things gcc-update did.

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SqWaw:

bad kormoc :(

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SqWaw:

no matter, we'll get this fixed.

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kormoc:

SqWaw, this is why Cardoe's a gentoo dev and I'm a user :P

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SqWaw:

haha

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Cardoe:

SqWaw: do you have the following dir?

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Cardoe:

/usr/lib/libstdc++-v3/

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SqWaw:

no

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SqWaw:

ls: /usr/lib/libstdc++-v3/: No such file or directory

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Cardoe:

wonder why I do

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SqWaw:

maybe... /usr/portage/sys-libs/libstdc++-v3 ?

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Cardoe:

heh

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Cardoe:

could be

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Cardoe:

SqWaw: mkdir -p /usr/lib/libstdc++-v3/

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SqWaw:

contains ChangeLog, Manifest files/, metadata.xml

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SqWaw:

etc..

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SqWaw:

k

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Cardoe:

cd /usr/lib/libstdc++-v3/

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SqWaw:

k

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Cardoe:

wget http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/files/libstdc++.so.5.0.7

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SqWaw:

done

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Cardoe:

ln -s libstdc++.so.5.0.7 libstdc++.so.5

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Cardoe:

echo "/usr/lib/libstdc++-v3/" >> /etc/ld.so.conf

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Cardoe:

ldconfig

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Cardoe:

emerge --oneshot sys-libs/libstdc++-v3

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SqWaw:

okay

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Cardoe:

env-update

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Cardoe:

source /etc/profile

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SqWaw:

emerge works

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kormoc:

Cardoe, won't a revdev-update just fix it without emerging libstdc++-v3?

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Cardoe:

kormoc: that's why we oneshot'd

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Cardoe:

we'll get rid of it

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kormoc:

ahh, makes sense

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Cardoe:

SqWaw: once that's all done

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Cardoe:

emerge -auDv --newuse world

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Cardoe:

let it run

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Cardoe:

and I shall return

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Cardoe:

if not

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Cardoe:

cp /usr/src/linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r10/.config /usr/src/linux-2.6.13-gentoo-r2/

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Cardoe:

cd /usr/src

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Cardoe:

rm linux

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Cardoe:

ln -s linux-2.6.13-gentoo-r2 linux

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Cardoe:

cd linux

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Cardoe:

make oldconfig

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Cardoe:

make

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Cardoe:

make modules_install

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Cardoe:

revdep-rebuild

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SqWaw:

wuhhh

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Cardoe:

emerge lirc ivtv

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SqWaw:

are u sure all that will work on its own?

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Cardoe:

yup

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SqWaw:

wait, do that if u dont return?

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Cardoe:

yep

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Cardoe:

I'll be back

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Cardoe:

Woman is angry

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Cardoe:

promised I'd meet her at the restaurant @ 6:30

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Cardoe:

it's 6:40

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Cardoe:

got 2 angry calls already

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laga:

ouch

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SqWaw:

eek

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SqWaw:

i saw her pic i think

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SqWaw:

hosting her on ur dev webspace?

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Cardoe:

if it's a blonde then yes

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Cardoe:

ok I'm out

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Cardoe:

be back in an hour

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Cardoe:

or whenever I'm done getting screamed at

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SqWaw:

guess not

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SqWaw:

she's kinda brunette in the pic, so i gues its the girl ur cheating on ur girl w/ ;)

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SqWaw:

kormoc, is it okay that atk, gtk+ and pango are stil there?

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SqWaw:

when i do "emerge -auDv --newuse world"

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kormoc:

SqWaw, hrm, there shouldn't be any reason for them to be there...

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SqWaw:

well they are still ther rofl

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SqWaw:

i give up

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kormoc:

one sec.

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kormoc:

equery d atk;equery d gtk+;equery d pango

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kormoc:

pastebin the results of that

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SqWaw:

okies..

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SqWaw:

equery always takes a bit, h/o

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SqWaw:

atk and pango have no deps

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SqWaw:

media-sound/lame-3.96.1-r1

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SqWaw:

sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4-r1

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** kormoc blinks **

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SqWaw:

gtk+ has those ^

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kormoc:

SqWaw, at this point, might as well update world, get ti working then clean imho

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SqWaw:

okay

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SqWaw:

boy this is gonna take a while

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SqWaw:

91 packages.

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SqWaw:

wow, see u all next yeat

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SqWaw:

year*

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SqWaw:

this is gonna take forever

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Cardoe:

SqWaw: do you have -gtk in your USE?

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Cardoe:

SqWaw: grep 'gtk' /etc/make.conf

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kormoc:

http://silverstr.ufies.org/blog/archives/000862.html

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SqWaw:

card: still around

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SqWaw:

card: still aroundugh

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SqWaw:

kor: around?

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SqWaw:

ugh.

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SqWaw:

my helpers are gone

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dr_kex:

Hi all, does anyone have info about using Ubuntu Breezy with MythTV?

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stf:

hello there!!!! I got some problem to start WinTV-150

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dr_kex:

stf, what's the problem?

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stf:

<dr_kex> I have to rebuid the machine after a crash and i cannot have the last ivtv-kmdl-2.6.12–1.1456 to fit with the last kernel so i downgrade to the last matsh 1447 and the card doesn't recorde anything

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dr_kex:

Does it record just static – I mean, do you at least see your recordings appear?

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dr_kex:

I use a 350 card myself, and I've really had no problems with it – I have an older machine so I wanted the hardware decode/encode to take the strain off the processor

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stf:

No cat /dev/video0 >/test.mpg doesn't do nothing

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dr_kex:

Do you see any other video devices in /dev?

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stf:

[root@localhost /]# ls -la /dev/video*

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stf:

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Sep 23 15:49 /dev/video -> video0

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stf:

crw------- 1 root root 81, 0 Sep 23 15:49 /dev/video0

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stf:

crw------- 1 root root 81, 24 Sep 23 15:49 /dev/video24

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stf:

crw------- 1 root root 81, 32 Sep 23 15:49 /dev/video32

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dr_kex:

What video card are you using, does that have tv out?

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stf:

no tv out

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stf:

this machine is ony a backend server

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dr_kex:

So what are the other video devices? The record part of my PVR-350 is video0 and the tv out is video16

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stf:

I suppose the 24 au 32 was the RCA and the S-Video and the 0 was the Coax

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stf:

I know the 150 and the 350 are similar for the input

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dr_kex:

Yes, its just the decode on the output that they vary afaik

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dr_kex:

What distribution are you using?

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stf:

yes I plan to buy a 350 or a dvb (don't remembre the number)

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stf:

fc4

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dr_kex:

I had real problem with fc, I just couldn't get my wireless adapter to work, switched to the latest ubuntu and it works fine

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dr_kex:

Problem is Myth TV that comes with ununtu is version 0.18, but all the plugins are 0.17, so they don't play together

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dr_kex:

So I can do basic TV watching and record, but no music, webserver, dvd playing :-(

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dr_kex:

stf, its Ubuntu specific but I found this guys guide really good http://www.abarbaccia.com/content/view/19/31/

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dr_kex:

I think the guy that wrote it hangs out here from time to time, or maybe on mythtv_devel

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stf:

Sorry i was on the phone

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stf:

I am watchin your guide

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dr_kex:

I dunno, I found it pretty handy. It's tied to the previous Ubuntu release, that doesn't recognize my USB adaptor, but it got me up and running (apart from the plugins)

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stf:

I found this in my log ivtv warning: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found for command....

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stf:

Did i forget to load some thing

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poonj:

hey guys..anyone here build dvb-apps thourgh the CVS?

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poonj:

CVS sources

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dr_kex:

i2c is for the remote control, does the 150 have a remote control?

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dr_kex:

stf, if you run /bin/dmesg |grep Initialized what do you get?

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stf:

ivtv: Initialized WinTV PVR 250, card #0

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poonj:

anyone here have experience using scan to test the signal strength of HDTV signals?

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dr_kex:

I thought you had a 150?

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poonj:

I'm having trouble getting the program scan to work with the pchdtv card...

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stf:

Ho dam.... 10 minutes to put your kids to bed.... I think some time i need to pass 10 hours to out them again and again and again and again....

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qfx:

Getting closer!

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qfx:

Can anyone tell me how to blow away my current mysql db and start from scratch? I think I've fubared it

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mchou:

qfx: how much data (time-wise) did you have in the DB?

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qfx:

mchou nothing

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qfx:

mchou brand new install

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mchou:

ok, that's simple.

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poonj:

hey mchou: are you familiar with the scan tool for dvb?

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qfx:

mchou except there's a password set from ages ago that's now forgotten

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stf:

check into the /var/lib/mysql and remove the db here

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mchou:

poonj: the scan tool in myth?

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poonj:

well, for some reason I don't get any signal from the antenna anymore

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mchou:

poonj: beats me.....

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qfx:

stf: It's there, but I want to remove it, and restart everything for mysql from scratch

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poonj:

I'm trying to use the scan program in dvb-tools so I can tune to a channel and move the antenna around

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poonj:

to see if I can get a signal again

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poonj:

but I need a dvb-t file....

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mchou:

poonj: heh, so that didnt work?

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qfx:

mchou so how should I do it? just delete the /var/lib/mysql/mythconverg db?

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poonj:

I have no idea how this channel frequency works

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poonj:

but I think the frequencies changed in my area

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mchou:

qfx: yup

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mchou:

and then do the myth dbsetup/install again

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mchou:

from the docs

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qfx:

does that remove the root password too?

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mchou:

qfx: depends

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mchou:

if you had other dbs around, then no.

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mchou:

most likely it wont remove the passwds regardless.....

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mchou:

poonj: anyways, dvbscan works well for me

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mchou:

but on atsc

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mchou:

havent used it in a LONG time

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poonj:

okay

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poonj:

the thing is

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poonj:

I need to generate channels

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poonj:

I'm supposed to use the scan command to do it

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poonj:

but to generate the channels, I need a frequency table

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mchou:

poonj: sigh, rtfm

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poonj:

and I don't have a frequency table

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poonj:

heh, the manual doesn't help here

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mchou:

azap/szap or some such thing

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mchou:

sure it does

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stf:

qfx: only for mythtv db or anything else

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wswanson:

any thoughts on best bitrate and max bitrate?

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gary:

Good evening. I have started to convert some of my mpeg-2 video's to mpeg-4 using xvid/mencoder. Things are working well and the resulting file plays great on my laptop, but when I play it through mythvideo the audio is out of sync by about a second or so. Any thoughts?

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mchou:

gary: most likely bad hw

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mchou:

gary: when transcoding/demux

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stf:

gary: use xine to play avi file your encoding was ok it mplayer the problem. I have looking a lot to founf this

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gary:

mchou – hardware is pretty decent P4 3.0gHZ etc. it handles everything else with lots of CPU to spare. I am also using the 'internal' playback on mythvideo – mplayer was giving me problems

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mchou:

cpu juice has nothing to do with what I'm talking about

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stf:

gary: xine -pfh --no-splash %s into your config for playing video

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stf:

gary: but you need to quit with q and Alt + Tab to return to the mythfrontend It's where i'm with the unsync video

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gary:

stf: thanks – issue that I will have is I don't have keyboard access in the living room (Pvr in basement and cords running through floor) the xvids play great with mplayer and xine on my laptop, so I know its not the files. I am suspecting its the 'internal; module of mythvideo

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stf:

Is there a problem with the mythfilldatabase

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stf:

gary: did you have an unsync video with mplayer !?!

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gary:

stf: no

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mchou:

gary: sheesh, why didnt you say so earlier :)

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stf:

gary: dam i think i have found my proble to... I have unsync video with mplayer but nothing with xine

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gary:

Sorry – thought I did, thats why i said I was using the 'internal' playback of mythvideo. Mplayer worked but I couldn't get remote working properly across the board.

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stf:

gary: what do you meen with internal playback

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mchou:

gary: please be very specific in your statements

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mchou:

like what the heck does this mean? " I couldn't get remote working properly across the board."

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mchou:

with what? mplayer, myth, xine?

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stf:

all on gary.....

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gary:

stf: within the mythvideo module if you replace the command line for mplayer or xine with 'Internal' mythvideo will play the video using its internal's and not use an external program. mchou. I mean I couldn't get the remote to work happily with mythtv AND mplayer/xine.

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mchou:

remote as in remote control or remote playback?

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gary:

sorry, remote control

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mchou:

goddamn!

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stf:

gary: I will try this tanks...

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gary:

stf: it is case sensitive – make sure you say Internal and not internal, elst it won't work.

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dr_kex:

Is mythvideo a plugin or is it built in?

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gary:

plug-in

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dr_kex:

Anyone know where I can get prebuilt 0.18 plugins for Ubuntu

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gary:

stf: glad I could help – hope it works out for you...

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mchou:

dr_kex: buid them yourself

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dr_kex:

<waves hands in the air> Is that really the easiest way?

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mchou:

dr_kex: nope. But the most RELIABLE way

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gary:

dr_kex: not as hard as you may think...

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dr_kex:

Interesting. I mean I've used Solaris for years, but only as a user, I'm pretty new to all this Linux malarky

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xris:

dr_kex: they're not in universe?

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dr_kex:

I don't think so.

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xris:

most of the devs use ubuntu.. pretty sure the packages are out there.

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xris:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_pac . . . ;release=all

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dr_kex:

0.17 plugins are there, and mythtv 0.18 is, but not the 0.18 plugins

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xris:

hmm, old, though

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xris:

search in breezy

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xris:

man, I know that mdz made packages for mythplugins.

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dr_kex:

Is that a person, or an organization?

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gary:

anyone using a remote control with mythtv AND mplayer/xine?

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dev-:

probably everyone?

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dev-:

i do..

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gary:

dev: was that directed to me?

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dev-:

yes

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gary:

care to throw me your lirc.conf file?

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dev-:

only thing i ever changed was lircrc

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dev-:

not lirc.conf

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gary:

what are you using to capture the events?

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dev-:

lircd

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gary:

in your file, are you using mythtv or irxevent

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dev-:

lircd.conf is just the mappings for the remote

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dev-:

my conf wont be of any help to you

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dev-:

mapping as in hex for the buttons

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gary:

understood.

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dev-:

lircrc controls events for the remote buttons

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dev-:

make sure you have mplayer/xine in lircrc?

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dev-:

you also need a symlink for .lircrc in your home directory

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dev-:

as well as in .mythtv.

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stf:

Any body can help me with my WinTV150

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gary:

right now I have 'prog = mythtv' in my lircrc – is that what you have as well?

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dev-:

and the symlink i menetioned?

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gary:

let me check

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xris:

dr_kex: mdz is one of the devs.. he makes the debs

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dr_kex:

Is it worth lurking on mythtv-devel or is that strictly for developers?

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gary:

.lircrc (symlink) is only in the .mythtv directory – not in the home directory

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dr_kex:

stf: If you have a 150, but ivtv is reporting it as a 250, I'd say that's a problem

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gary:

fixed – added a symlink in the home directory

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dev-:

that should do it.

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gary:

stf: what version of IVTV are you running? I had alot of troubles running the 0.2 branch – I upgraded to 0.3.7 and everything worked perfectly after that

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xris:

dr_kex: it's #mythtv (no -devel)... and you'll get asked to leave if you ask non-development questions, yes.

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mchou:

dr_kex: indeedy

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stf:

except I rebuild the machine it's the same setup I have with the same module. It's we i dont understand why it's not working

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gary:

dev: do you have 2 lircrc's then? One in the .mythtv directory with prog = mythtv and the one in the user home directory is prog = xine?

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gary:

hope that made sense :)

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dr_kex:

I figured, I've read the transcripts ... they seem to give short shrift to most people (understandable)

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dev-:

no, just the one in .mythtv and a symlink to it in the home directory

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dev-:

mythtv wants it to be in .mythtv

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dev-:

xine/mplayer in the home directory like normal little programs :)

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gary:

dev: the binaries or the config files?? Sorry, but I am confused...

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gary:

as to how you have it setup

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dev-:

lircrc is a config file

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dev-:

it needs to be in 2 places, but its stupid to have 2 copies

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dev-:

so just symlink it

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dev-:

do you understand that?>

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dev-:

heh

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gary:

Yes I know that. What I am having issues with is what program you are using to control lircd. in lircrc where the button mappings are, one of the lines is 'prog = xxx' when xxx is the controling program. in you lircrc, is this set to mythtv or something else?

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dev-:

nothing controls lircd, its a seperate daemon that you start as root. yes, i have it set to mythtv and xine. because i use the remote to control mythtv and xine.

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dr_kex:

Not really a mythtv question, but is it possible in Linux to add a new physical drive, and have it added to an existing mount point?

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mchou:

dr_kex: lvm

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mchou:

documented in the myth docs no less

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gary:

Cool, is that line saying this -> prog = mythtv and xine. Is this syntax you are using. Dont' mean to frustrate you, but all the docs I have read have said that you can only have one parm for prog in lircrc.

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gary:

so I am unclear as to how to get them both working using one lircrc file.

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dev-:

yes, only 1 parm on each prog= line. http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/lircrc-haupgrey.txt

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dev-:

dont mean to be mean... but.. that was the first result when you google for "lircrc mythtv"

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mchou:

hah, lol

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djperegrine:

isn't their a script that adds files that are in the "tv" folder into the database?

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dev-:

no.. why would you need such a script?

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djperegrine:

I am writing a script that downloads stuff off of my tivo box

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dev-:

ok?

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djperegrine:

I remeber hearing there was some script that made it easy to import single files into the database

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djperegrine:

could be wrong.

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dev-:

you're playing these with mythvideo right?

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djperegrine:

no

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djperegrine:

I meant import all the show data and stuff to

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dev-:

ooohhhh

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dev-:

no idea

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djperegrine:

ok

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dev-:

sry

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djperegrine:

np

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djperegrine:

I really don't like myth video

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djperegrine:

it really should change

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dev-:

i rarely use it. use xbmc to play svcd/divx/xvid/etc

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dev-:

only use the myth boxes for tv really

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dev-:

they do that well

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dev-:

hehe

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djperegrine:

ah yea

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djperegrine:

you can use a xbox for a front end to :P

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dev-:

yeah. when i was looking at it though, it looks like you need to install linux on it?

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dev-:

looked around, couldnt find an xbox-knop-myth type .iso image

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dev-:

was almost a year ago though. maybe there is such a thing now

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djperegrine:

New releases of KnoppMyth, the full GNU/Linux + MythTV distribution, and MythTV-XBOX, the bootable MythTV distribution for XBOX's have both been released. KnoppMyth? R4V3 and MythTV-XBOX 0.4.2 BETA are available from the usual places, here (cache) and here (cache)

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dev-:

neat, im going to need to try that

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djperegrine:

so I guess knoppmyth just works with xbox now

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stf:

mythfilldatabase

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stf:

2005-09–23 22:09:12.370 New DB connection, total: 1

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stf:

2005-09–23 22:09:12.454 New DB connection, total: 2

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stf:

Refreshing Tomorrow's data

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stf:

2005-09–23 22:09:12.472 New DB DataDirect connection

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stf:

Retrieving datadirect data...

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stf:

Grabbing data for Fri Sep 23 2005 offset 1

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stf:

From : Sat Sep 24 04:00:00 2005 To : Sun Sep 25 04:00:00 2005 (UTC)

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stf:

--22:09:12-- http://datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com/tvlistings/xtvdService

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stf:

=> `-'

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GreyFoxx:

stf: Jesus christ

[04:09:00]

stf:

Resolving datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com... 206.18.98.160

[04:09:00]

stf:

Connecting to datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com[206.18.98.160]:80... connected.

[04:09:00]

GreyFoxx:

Use pastebin

[04:09:00]

stf:

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized

[04:09:00]

stf:

Connecting to datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com[206.18.98.160]:80... connected.

[04:09:00]

stf:

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 500 Internal Server Error

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GreyFoxx:

noone wants to see all that crap

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stf:

22:09:13 ERROR 500: Internal Server Error.

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djperegrine:

dev-, what you want is at oh its http://bit.blkbk.com/

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stf:

what the hell with this.... I'am the only one with this probleme

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GreyFoxx:

stf: It worked previously ?

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gary:

dev: no worries about being mean – seems I need a cuff upside the head anyway :)

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stf:

GreyFoxx: Yes with the previous intallation. The machine crash and i rebuild them.

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stf:

GreyFoxx: It a fresh installation

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GreyFoxx:

stf: So it hasn't worked since the rebuild ?

[04:13:00]

GreyFoxx:

Either your subscription is expired and you need to renew.or you are providing the wrong username/password

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stf:

GreyFoxx: no nothink work yet!!!

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stf:

I have renew with the forgot password fill 2 days ago and it's the good username/password

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dev-:

still looks like it installs linux on my xbox hd

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dev-:

er, on THE xbox hd

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dev-:

anyone in here use an xbox as a frontend that can confirm you have to install linux or not on the hd? heh

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dev-:

i still want it to be able to play games ;/

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GreyFoxx:

Everyone I know installs it to the drive and still play games

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dev-:

hrm

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djperegrine:

dev- , I know in knoppmyth you could run it off the CD

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SqWaw:

!seen cardoe

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SqWaw:

!seen kormac

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SqWaw:

!seen kormoc

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SqWaw:

:( both gawn.

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poonj:

I think my antenna is a POS!

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poonj:

arg

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SqWaw:

okaies.

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stf:

GreyFoxx: You're right. My subcription was expired.... I have reactive it and it work

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stf:

GreyFoxx: Badly until the 23 dec 2005....

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gary:

does it make sense (I am new to video) for an mpeg4 (xvid) to be clear and sharp on a laptop display but pixelated on a TV?

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gary:

TV is a normal analog/tube

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Agrajag-:

it does if the tv is a lot bigger

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gary:

laptop is set to 1024x768 – TV is set to 640x480

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Agrajag-:

yeah but what's the res of the video?

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gary:

720x480

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Agrajag-:

do you mean pixelated as in you can see compression artifacts?

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gary:

took a dvd rip and converted to xvid with a bitrate of 2200

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gary:

yes

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Agrajag-:

if you play other videos do they look ok?

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Agrajag-:

im pretty sure it's because of the physical size of the tv

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Agrajag-:

it'll make the artifacts much more obvious

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gary:

the other mpeg-2 files are fine and clear – this is the first mpeg4 I have converted and watched.

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Cardoe:

SqWaw: hey

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gary:

is there a way to sure? Hate to spend the time on conversion (to save space) for naught. They don't look overly bad, but it is noticeable on some scenes.

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SqWaw:

Cardoe, HII

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SqWaw:

omfg

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SqWaw:

i had a slight mishap, but i semi-solved it myself.

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SqWaw:

* MySQL-dev-db/mysql-4.0 found, up/downgrade to "dev-db/mysql-4.1" is unsupported

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SqWaw:

* export MYSQL_STRAIGHT_UPGRADE=1 to force

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SqWaw:

so i unmerged mysql

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SqWaw:

then merge'd the new 5.1

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SqWaw:

4.1*

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SqWaw:

now im back

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Cardoe:

SqWaw: yeah that's the right way

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Cardoe:

forgot to mention that

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SqWaw:

now im back to

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SqWaw:

emerge -auDv --newuse world

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SqWaw:

its on 19 of 68

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SqWaw:

gah, this is taking forever lol

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SqWaw:

i was hoping to have this box up by today.

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ik0n-:

I just recently set up MythTV and I have a problem. When I set it to record something on a channel, it records the channel above that. For instance, I set it to record channel 73 and it records channel 74. How can I fix this?

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ik0n-:

hello?

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Captain_Murdoch:

sounds like you might have your TV card configured for the wrong tuner type.

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ik0n-:

hmm – pretty sure it is set right, but let me double check that now

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stf:

ok hit's time to go to bed.... have a good night

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FairWtns:

Sup peeps.

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FairWtns:

Man I hate my television. It is a curse. An albatross, that I must bear around my neck.

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Cromz:

FairWtns, sounds heavy.. glad it's not me.. ;)

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ik0n-:

alright, where should i check the tuner type configuration? under capture cards or video sources?

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FairWtns:

Hehe. No I bought a TV on a whim, and it turns out it has some sort of brightness problem. As such, any image that contains both bright whites and dark blacks turns all the greys black.

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Captain_Murdoch:

ik0n-: for the tuner.o kernel module, not in Myth. try xawtv or something and see if that shows the right channel

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ik0n-:

oh...i see...

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FairWtns:

I'm looking at a on-the-cheap LCD TV now, and it *seems* too good to be true. I need to know if it's good enough. Same deal with the devil, but only the poor need to do business with Satanic merchants.

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ik0n-:

for some reason, i couldnt ever get xawtv to work on this box, any other options?

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ik0n-:

(might have to do with the fact that im running it though VNC)

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Captain_Murdoch:

google or the mailing list archives. Lots of people have had that problem and discussed how to verify and fix. never had the problem myself.

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eiggirC:

Has anyone here got a viewsonic lifepanel ? its a wireless tablet thin client

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eiggirC:

looks very sexy

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FairWtns:

eiggirC: Link? The LCDTV I'm looking at is a viewsonic...

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eiggirC:

FairWtns: hang on

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ik0n-:

Captain_Murdoch: any idea what i could search for? ive tried a few things but nothing seems to be showing me good results

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djperegrine:

yea I am looking to get a LCDTV to

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** FairWtns ponders the adjectives wireless tablet thin client together... **

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FairWtns:

djperegrine:I'm looking to replace my 27" regular tv with an LCD.

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djperegrine:

Yea

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eiggirC:

http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS9737046399.html

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djperegrine:

FairWtns, I have a regular monitor right now, but I want to play gamecube

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eiggirC:

http://www.vnunet.com/itweek/hardware/2086366 . . . airpanel-100

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djperegrine:

and I need a new monitor ( I am using the best moninter in the house)

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eiggirC:

FairWtns: I got the name wrong – its an Airpanel

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djperegrine:

eiggirC, Those are really expensive

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ik0n-:

where is the best place to get help with MythTV? this doesn't seem to be the place...

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FairWtns:

djperegrine: Check out the viewsonic I'm looking at: http://www.buy.com/retail/techspecs/product.a . . . PageFormat=8 (i've seen it as low as $714 +ship)

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FairWtns:

eiggirC:Interesting device.

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FairWtns:

ik0n-:What's the problem?

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ik0n-:

I just recently set up MythTV and I have a problem. When I set it to record something on a channel, it records the channel above that. For instance, I set it to record channel 73 and it records channel 74. How can I fix this?

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djperegrine:

FairWtns, thats damn awesome

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FairWtns:

djperegrine:I love the amount of inputs for the price (VGA + DVI!?). From what I know of LCDTVs, it seems like it has fine brightness and such also.

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djperegrine:

Yea

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FairWtns:

ik0n-:I believe I had such a problem long, long ago...

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djperegrine:

FairWtns, I have a crappy graphics card, does that really matter?

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djperegrine:

it has DVI

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ik0n-:

any idea how u fixed it? or what i could search for to find a solution?

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djperegrine:

but like, does it effect the quailty?

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eiggirC:

FairWtns: yeah – I saw a more recent one, it had 802.11g

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FairWtns:

ik0n-:What location are you in?

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eiggirC:

I doubt even g wireless could deal with a remote X app like myth's frontend

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djperegrine:

If I am giong to buy a 700 dollar TV is running a 30 dollar video card stoopid?

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FairWtns:

eiggirC:I don't quite understand the device. It can connect to an X server? If so, I can tell you an 802.11b connection isn't going to be enough.

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ik0n-:

FairWtns: location? like state? I'm in NJ

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FairWtns:

djperegrine: A 300 vc is more than enough.

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Captain_Murdoch:

ik0n-: "tuner channels 'off by one' bttv" turned up lots of results

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FairWtns:

ik0n-:Me too. You're using zap2it listings?

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djperegrine:

FairWtns, a 300 vc ?

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ik0n-:

FairWtns: yes, i am

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FairWtns:

Oh, thought you said 300.

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djperegrine:

lol no

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djperegrine:

I wish

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FairWtns:

The mythbox my gf uses has onboard sis. Works acceptable. I would go with a bottom of the line nvidia (40 bucks maybe) just to get bob deinterlacing, but it's not insanity.

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ik0n-:

Captain: thanks – I will look through those, i was trying "recording wrong channel" which didnt seem to help too much

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FairWtns:

ik0n-:Yeah you really need to try tuning the channel manually with something. I have an ivtv card, and I think my test was like ivtvctl or something. Bottom line is to make sure it's a frequency problem and not a simple database prob.

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FairWtns:

If it's a db problem, the quick solution is to just edit the db.

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djperegrine:

FairWtns, my GFX works AWESOME but I am wondering if I would see a difference if I use a different one

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djperegrine:

well it works awesome for the VGA

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FairWtns:

djperegrine:What kind of card are we talking?

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djperegrine:

Readon 7000

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djperegrine:

the tv-out doesn't work

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djperegrine:

I tried like 5000 different ways

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djperegrine:

doesn't work, so I am using a monitor now

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FairWtns:

Yeah, but if you bought the viewsonic, you could just use the VGA input. :)

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djperegrine:

I know thats not my question :P

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FairWtns:

If you're question is if it's stupid to run a $30 video card on a $700 tv, the answer is:If it works, who cares?

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ik0n-:

FairWtns: I found someone else with the same tuner card and same problem – the solution for them was to add two lines to thier modules.conf – unfortunately, I do not have one of those (just running FC4) – can i just create that file?

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djperegrine:

Thats all I meant :P

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FairWtns:

Haven't used Red Hat in a while. Anyone know where the modules.conf equivalent is in FC4?

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Captain_Murdoch:

ik0n-: modprobe.conf for you then, because you have a v2.6.x kernel.

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ik0n-:

alright – thats what im trying now

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ik0n-:

rebooting as we speak

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Captain_Murdoch:

just rmmod tuner

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Captain_Murdoch:

this ain't Windows. :)

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FairWtns:

Captain to the rescue.

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ik0n-:

haha

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ik0n-:

:)

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** FairWtns shivers as he remebers advice taken from the "other" Captain. **

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ik0n-:

havent dealt much with kernel modules, so i wasnt sure

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ik0n-:

so u can just do a rmmod tuner and then a insmod tuner?

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FairWtns:

ik0n-:They are not as scary as your think.

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FairWtns:

insmod tuner <insert option you found here>

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Captain_Murdoch:

probably should "depmod -a ; rmmod tuner ; modprobe tuner"

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FairWtns:

And of course modprobe is better. Please listen to the captain. I have had too many beers.

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Captain_Murdoch:

ik0n-: with FairWtns's way you can test options without having to edit modprobe.conf

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Captain_Murdoch:

if modprobe works though, you're confident it will work when you reboot.

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ik0n-:

got ya

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** FairWtns shuts up. **

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ik0n-:

good to know

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ik0n-:

:)

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ik0n-:

now i just need to figure out which one of these people's options work

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ik0n-:

anyone have a ATI TV Wonder VE by any chance?

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ik0n-:

i know, i know, its a crappy card :)

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FairWtns:

Nope. I went with the Hauppage. I wanted an All In Wonder, but apparently Linux support is crap. So no $$ for you ATI.

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djperegrine:

ik0n-, I have a readon 7000 and the TV just will never work

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Captain_Murdoch:

FairWtns: not trying to step on toes.... just that I pointed him in the tuner direction earlier and didn't want to abandon him.

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FairWtns:

Captain_Murdoch: No offense taken. I've only been using Linux for about a year. I get the general idea, but when I cross distros I defer to those with greater knowledge. We're good.

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djperegrine:

I have another question, can my TV card use a svideo input and record at the same time?

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Cromz:

ik0n-, I had that type of card at first. but got tired of the sound switching I had to do cause I use my myth as my desktop too.. :/

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FairWtns:

djperegrine: Not sure what you mean. Normally a capture card can only have one "input" at a time. That may be svideo, standard cable, composite, etc. But usually only one at a time. "Input" wise that is. Output is a different animal.

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ik0n-:

Cromz: do u remember if u had to do anything special to get the tuner working?

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djperegrine:

I meant input

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Cromz:

ik0n-, ya. it didn't reconize the tuner correctly. I had to tell it what tuner was in it. don't remember the number tho :/

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Cromz:

ik0n-, had to tell it card # and tuner #

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ik0n-:

Cromz: alright, that is what im seeing on the list archive, im trying a few of the different options people have reported as working

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FairWtns:

djperegrine: I'm going to say no, but I'm still uncertain I understand. Do you mean record from one source (svideo) while outputting to another?

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djperegrine:

no

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djperegrine:

I mean use a svideo input and use the cable input at the same time

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Cromz:

card=64 – ATI TV-Wonder VE, type=2 – Philips NTSC (FI1236 and compatibles)

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Cromz:

think that's what I used.

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ik0n-:

FairWtns and Captain – I dont mean to ignore you guys, thank you for pointing me in the right direction

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FairWtns:

Aahh. Generally no. There are cards which can do this (Hauppage PVR 500), but they are rare. Usually, only one input at a time can be used.

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SqWaw:

Cardoe, still around?

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ik0n-:

Cromz: interesting, im trying card=1 and type=17 right now...someone said that worked for them. I will try card=64 and type=2 if this does not work

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Cardoe:

yes

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FairWtns:

Anyone up on CVS (or SVN now, I suppose) I'm way out of the loop.

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Captain_Murdoch:

what about it?

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FairWtns:

Just wondering what's been in development. The "commits" list has been revamped, I assume to be more bugtracker-friendly, but it's much less browseable.

[05:55:00]

FairWtns:

I love my .18, but from what I see, CVS has some very interestng things in development.

[05:55:00]

Captain_Murdoch:

try this page: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/timeline

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FairWtns:

Hrmm. Much more friendly.

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ik0n-:

Ok...apparently you can't have a line starting with "post-install" in modprobe.conf?

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ik0n-:

anyone know much about modprobe.conf?

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FairWtns:

ik0n-:I don't believe so...

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FairWtns:

What are you trying to add with post-install?

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** FairWtns loves http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/timeline **

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ik0n-:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 20one;#23228

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ik0n-:

options bttv card=1 autoload=0

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ik0n-:

post-install bttv insmod tuner type=17

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ik0n-:

i think i need to add those

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FairWtns:

convert that to "options tuner type=17" I believe

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Captain_Murdoch:

and get rid of "autoload=0", that tells it to not load the tuner module (so you'd have to manually load it with post-install in this case)

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FairWtns:

btw, Hoegaarden is gooood.

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** FairWtns is apologetic for his way-to-chattiness. **

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ik0n-:

Captain: alright, that explains why tuner was never being loaded

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ik0n-:

alright, let me see if those work

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FairWtns:

Captain_Murdoch: Beirdo been around? Haven't talked to him in months.

[06:05:00]

Captain_Murdoch:

think he as in here the other day but I usually don't sit in here, but there's nothing going on over in -dev so I'm on this tab. :)

[06:05:00]

Captain_Murdoch:

err, no -dev, just plain #mythtv. :)

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redfox:

woo hoo, got tv out to work

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ik0n-:

grrr – what is this .nuv crap?

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ik0n-:

haha

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FairWtns:

hehe.

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fryfrog:

has anyone screwed around a lot with DVI->HDMI to their HDTV?

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fryfrog:

my "1280x720" mode has *WAY* to much overscan to be usable and i'm having trouble tuning it down

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FairWtns:

fryfrog:I'm getting there, but not yet.

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fryfrog:

i thought i was getting to understand modelines, but when i change em how i thought i should... X says they are invalid :/

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fryfrog:

i guess i'll prolly haul a winblows pc down and see what powerstrip spits out :/

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fryfrog:

i found a good tool called "videogen" that is supposed to help you by spitting out good modelines... but i don't have a clue what my HDTV's dotclock is :/

[06:18:00]

FairWtns:

Sad that we must resort to that occasionally.

[06:19:00]

fryfrog:

thats what i was thinking! :)

[06:19:00]

fryfrog:

HOLY SHIT, BSG was AWSOME tonight :)

[06:20:00]

fryfrog:

i really wish sci fi channel would offer an HD chan

[06:21:00]

FairWtns:

fryfrog:I'm still two episodes behind. Shhh

[06:22:00]

fryfrog:

okay okay, i won't say anything about the cylon dog

[06:23:00]

FairWtns:

bastard

[06:23:00]

fryfrog:

oops :/

[06:23:00]

fryfrog:

hey, what was that kid's name in the original series?

[06:23:00]

fryfrog:

the one with that... retarded bear thing?

[06:23:00]

FairWtns:

I think it was bastard.

[06:24:00]

FairWtns:

Was that BSG? I think that was Buck Rogers.

[06:24:00]

FairWtns:

I hated BSG in my youth.

[06:24:00]

FairWtns:

No "twiggie" was Buck Rogers.

[06:24:00]

fryfrog:

nah, i'm sure that BSG from yore had the child with the umm mechanical teddy bear?

[06:25:00]

fryfrog:

i'm glad he isn't in today's bsg :)

[06:25:00]

FairWtns:

I remember the child and the bear. Gotta google it up...

[06:25:00]

GreyFoxx:

That was Boxy and his pet daggit from the original BSG

[06:26:00]

FairWtns:

Muffit.

[06:26:00]

GreyFoxx:

his real pet died in the Cyclon attach so they made him a robotic one

[06:26:00]

FairWtns:

Good for the Cylons.

[06:26:00]

GreyFoxx:

Boxy appeared in acouple eps from the first season :)

[06:27:00]

fryfrog:

ah

[06:28:00]

FairWtns:

Apparently, it was a chimpanzee. http://www.kobol.com/archives/time.html

[06:28:00]

FairWtns:

Go monkees.

[06:28:00]

GreyFoxx:

Cool

[06:29:00]

FairWtns:

Now that you say it, yeah, I guess it was a bit.

[06:29:00]

FairWtns:

But again, my memories of the original Galactica are happily incomplete.

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FairWtns:

I watched more Buck Rogers, and thankfully, not much of that.

[06:30:00]

GreyFoxx:

I have the DVD set :)

[06:30:00]

FairWtns:

I wonder if you can buy "The Greatest American Hero." At least that didn't take itself seriously.

[06:30:00]

GreyFoxx:

My GF knew I loves the new series so she bought me that one as a joke

[06:30:00]

GreyFoxx:

FairWtns: Yeah they have season 1 & 2 out

[06:30:00]

FairWtns:

That's the title? It's been awhile.

[06:31:00]

GreyFoxx:

that's the title

[06:31:00]

FairWtns:

I may just pick that up. Damn what beer will do to you. Now I need to pick up "V" if it's available.

[06:32:00]

GreyFoxx:

heh It is

[06:32:00]

GreyFoxx:

at least the mini series, no idea about the tv series

[06:32:00]

SqWaw:

55 of 68.....

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GreyFoxx:

SqWaw: of what ?

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FairWtns:

The mini-series was awesone. The TV show, well it got good right before cancellation. And hell, it had freddy kreuger, so why not.

[06:33:00]

fryfrog:

Video bandwidth............. 80MHz

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fryfrog:

rar, found the dot clock!

[06:34:00]

FairWtns:

fryfrog:you rawk.

[06:34:00]

FairWtns:

Me drinky.

[06:34:00]

FairWtns:

Damn. And I know Beirdo's logging this.

[06:35:00]

fryfrog:

man, switching screens inside screens is hard to get used to!

[06:35:00]

FairWtns:

fryfrog: I never learned the art of "screen" other than "screen" "screen -R" and "screen -ls"

[06:36:00]

FairWtns:

Wonderful program though.

[06:36:00]

SqWaw:

GreyFoxx, of...

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SqWaw:

emerge -auDv --newuse world

[06:37:00]

FairWtns:

Interesting that at work today, our "server team" couldn't boot a linux distro (FC4 maybe?) and they thankfully asked silly me. A simple "acpi=off" solved the issue.

[06:37:00]

ik0n-:

man – this is driving me insane! maybe i should just buy a tivo ;)

[06:38:00]

FairWtns:

ik0n-: Last i heard you were complaining of .nuvs. What's up now?

[06:39:00]

ik0n-:

Still trying to fix the apparent problem with bttv and the the ATI TV Wonder VE

[06:39:00]

FairWtns:

Aaah. Well ATI + Linux = meh.

[06:40:00]

ik0n-:

yeah – it certainly seems like it – many people seem to have issues with this tuner

[06:41:00]

FairWtns:

I wonder if anyone has a torrent of RvB available. Haven't check that in many many months...too lazy to D/L links.

[06:41:00]

fryfrog:

FairWtns: "screen -r" and ctrl-a c and ctrl-a <space> are the best part of screen

[06:42:00]

FairWtns:

I normally use c-a+d

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fryfrog:

you can have more than one "screen" inside a screen

[06:42:00]

FairWtns:

C + space...

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fryfrog:

like, right now i flip around betwen an irssi session and command prompts :)

[06:42:00]

FairWtns:

Togggling between screens, or a new screen-ina-screen...

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NightBird:

yeay! crime! weeee!

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** FairWtns reels at hoegaardens and technicalites **

[06:43:00]

FairWtns:

lities. litees. techni-calli-tees. fuggit.

[06:43:00]

fryfrog:

its only *one* screen session

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FairWtns:

oh crap dog outside.

[06:44:00]

fryfrog:

its like alt-f1, alt-f2 while using the uh ... linux

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Krazylegz:

fryfrog: Agrajag gave me a nice line for my .screenrc if you want it.

[06:45:00]

fryfrog:

sure, whats that?

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Krazylegz:

hardstatus alwayslastline "%-Lw%{= CB}%{+c w}%50>%n%f* %t%{-}%+Lw%< %=%c %D %d/%m"

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fryfrog:

what does it do?

[06:46:00]

Krazylegz:

It's easier for you to try it. :-)

[06:46:00]

Krazylegz:

It lists your screens in this screen on the bottom, you can name screens and it shows the date/time.

[06:47:00]

fryfrog:

do i need to make a new screen session?

[06:47:00]

fryfrog:

ahhh, very neat

[06:47:00]

Krazylegz:

Yeah, put that in your .screenrc and make a new screen session.

[06:48:00]

fryfrog:

is there a " " (space) between %n%f* and %t%{-}%

[06:48:00]

fryfrog:

that is where it wrapped on my screen

[06:48:00]

Krazylegz:

No.

[06:49:00]

Krazylegz:

Oh wait, yes.

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fryfrog:

anyone know how to disable "Virtual Screen Size" in X?

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redfox:

fryfrog, set the biggest resolution to what you want to use in xorg.conf

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fryfrog:

it is, but what if it switches to a smaller rez?

[06:51:00]

fryfrog:

won't it use the "virtual" size?

[06:51:00]

ik0n-:

hey – look at that! i fixed it!

[06:51:00]

ik0n-:

:)

[06:51:00]

redfox:

yeah I believe so... I'm not sure if you can disable that or not

[06:51:00]

fryfrog:

also, when i set it to something like "1144x644" it still makes a 1280x720 virtual desk

[06:52:00]

redfox:

I assume it can only do standard resolutions...

[06:52:00]

fryfrog:

x has never forced me to see a virtual desktop with a normal monitor :(

[06:52:00]

Krazylegz:

If someone ever designs a 5-line XF86Config, I'd like to see it.

[06:53:00]

ik0n-:

now, why do the files still have a.nuv extension when i have it set to encode with MPEG-4?

[06:55:00]

fryfrog:

ik0n-: cause thats just how it works

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Cardoe:

hey SqWaw you here?

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ik0n-:

fryfrog: haha – ok... does that mean i can't play them in os x?

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Krazylegz:

You can.

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Krazylegz:

.nuv is just a file extension.

[06:56:00]

Krazylegz:

I guess some people call it a "container format"?

[06:56:00]

ik0n-:

alright – for some reason it wasnt playing in any of the media players i have on here, but that was before i changed it to mpeg-4, so maybe that will make a difference

[06:57:00]

Krazylegz:

Windows?

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Captain_Murdoch:

ik0n-: you can install mythfrontend to play the, otherwise you probably can't since they're MPEG-4 encoded data in a nuppel container file.

[06:58:00]

ik0n-:

alright, so i need to look into mythfrontend for os x

[06:58:00]

Captain_Murdoch:

or use nuvexport to generate .avi files or something if you want. not sure what versions of mythfrontend are out there precompiled, but I know people were working on it.

[06:59:00]

ik0n-:

nuvexport...alright – is that command line only?

[06:59:00]

Captain_Murdoch:

yeah

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ik0n-:

alright

[06:59:00]

ik0n-:

i will take a look at both of those

[06:59:00]

ik0n-:

thanks!

[06:59:00]

Captain_Murdoch:

uses ffmpeg or transcode I think.

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mchou:

ok, wait a sec. when did the new season of BSG start?

[07:01:00]

mchou:

I completely missed that.....

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GreyFoxx:

umm couple months ago

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GreyFoxx:

they are up to like episdoe 10

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fryfrog:

wasn't that last ep the season finale?

[07:03:00]

GreyFoxx:

mid season break/finale

[07:03:00]

GreyFoxx:

the second half is after xmas

[07:03:00]

GreyFoxx:

they do it for stargate too

[07:03:00]

fryfrog:

ah

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fryfrog:

dang :(

[07:03:00]

mchou:

GreyFoxx: bah, this is still last season

[07:07:00]

fryfrog:

last season?

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SqWaw:

Cardoe, Hi, im here

[07:08:00]

SqWaw:

Cardoe, And I'm ready for the next step

[07:08:00]

SqWaw:

no, wait, i'm not

[07:08:00]

SqWaw:

slocate failed

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SqWaw:

why does it always do this?

[07:09:00]

SqWaw:

* The 'slocate' group has been renamed to 'locate'.

[07:09:00]

SqWaw:

* You seem to already have a 'slocate' group

[07:09:00]

SqWaw:

* Please rename it:

[07:09:00]

SqWaw:

* groupmod -n locate slocate

[07:10:00]

Cardoe:

just run the command

[07:10:00]

Cardoe:

I know it's annoying

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SqWaw:

yea

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SqWaw:

alright

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SqWaw:

I'm set

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SqWaw:

* IMPORTANT: 42 config files in /etc need updating.

[07:15:00]

SqWaw:

* IMPORTANT: 1 config files in /usr/lib/X11/xkb need updating.

[07:15:00]

SqWaw:

so now what?

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fryfrog:

SqWaw: have you ever used gentoo (or linux?) before?

[07:17:00]

SqWaw:

yes

[07:17:00]

SqWaw:

but he's been having me follow his instruction step by step

[07:17:00]

SqWaw:

i dont do a think w/o him telling me to first

[07:18:00]

SqWaw:

(linux/mythtv-related, not life-related)

[07:18:00]

fryfrog:

erm, not to be a dick... but is there some reason you picked gentoo as your first?

[07:18:00]

SqWaw:

i like gentoo

[07:18:00]

fryfrog:

i'd have to say its not that great a distro if you aren't able to kinda figure things out on your own :/

[07:19:00]

SqWaw:

no distro flames. thats all.

[07:19:00]

SqWaw:

i know i need to do etc-update

[07:19:00]

fryfrog:

i love gentoo and use it on all my linux boxes

[07:19:00]

SqWaw:

but he didnt tell me to

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SqWaw:

so im not going to

[07:19:00]

SqWaw:

we trying to solve a problem

[07:19:00]

SqWaw:

we're*

[07:19:00]

fryfrog:

well, i wish you luck

[07:21:00]

SqWaw:

Cardoe, You're name's not Issac... by any chance?

[07:21:00]

fryfrog:

nah, isaac != cardoe

[07:22:00]

SqWaw:

mishehu, b/c on his dev page (Cardoe's) it says my website, and it links to mythtv.org

[07:22:00]

mchou:

haha....

[07:22:00]

SqWaw:

oh wait, nm

[07:22:00]

SqWaw:

i misread.

[07:22:00]

mchou:

fryfrog: I wonder if Isaac will regard that as an insult

[07:23:00]

SqWaw:

mchou, i dont see why he would, cardoe seems fairly well versed at what he does...

[07:23:00]

fryfrog:

me saying he isn't cardoe?

[07:23:00]

fryfrog:

or him asking?

[07:23:00]

mchou:

fryfrog: hims asking

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mchou:

SqWaw: haha

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PITABoy:

heyy

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SqWaw:

erm hi.

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fryfrog:

"oh, crap... well, one of us is going to have to change"

[07:27:00]

SqWaw:

Cardoe, fall asleep?

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redfox:

fryfrog, haha are you watching tbs also?

[07:27:00]

fryfrog:

i think so :)

[07:27:00]

redfox:

lol

[07:27:00]

fryfrog:

family guy?

[07:27:00]

redfox:

yeah

[07:27:00]

fryfrog:

he

[07:27:00]

SqWaw:

lol

[07:27:00]

fryfrog:

er, haha

[07:27:00]

fryfrog:

hey, does anyone record off of sat or cable box?

[07:28:00]

SqWaw:

i was going to say cable guy, but thats on tnt

[07:28:00]

fryfrog:

or maybe just a theory or opinion on recording HDTV over svideo from a HD cable box?

[07:29:00]

redfox:

which cable box?

[07:29:00]

redfox:

I'm working on recording from my cable box, but not hdtv

[07:29:00]

fryfrog:

well, right now i have cumcast's DVR box

[07:29:00]

fryfrog:

but i was considering swapping it out for a pair of non-dvr hdtv tuners

[07:29:00]

fryfrog:

but the assholes charge $10 / box!

[07:30:00]

redfox:

total, or per month?

[07:30:00]

fryfrog:

and i'd need 2 or 3 :/

[07:30:00]

mchou:

fryfrog: hahaha

[07:30:00]

fryfrog:

per fucking month!

[07:30:00]

redfox:

ah jeez

[07:30:00]

fryfrog:

fucking comcast

[07:30:00]

fryfrog:

also

[07:30:00]

PITABoy:

how do i get ivtv driver settings to stay

[07:30:00]

PITABoy:

after a reboot

[07:30:00]

fryfrog:

they have been charging me for internet for FIVE MONTHS

[07:30:00]

fryfrog:

that i don't have or use

[07:30:00]

fryfrog:

i don't understand how they can make so many fucking mistakes

[07:30:00]

mchou:

fryfrog: huh??

[07:30:00]

redfox:

have you been paying for it?

[07:31:00]

fryfrog:

i've asked them to fix billing me for cable internet 3 times now :/

[07:31:00]

mchou:

inet is like $45/mo.

[07:31:00]

fryfrog:

yeah, no shit!

[07:31:00]

mchou:

fryfrog: haha!!

[07:31:00]

PITABoy:

i want ivtvctl -c dnr_temporal=0 and ivtvctl -c dnr_spatial=0 to stick

[07:31:00]

fryfrog:

they are such assholes

[07:31:00]

fryfrog:

i talked to one lady about 2 months ago when i first noticed

[07:31:00]

fryfrog:

she was all nice and shit like "yeah, i'll fix that"

[07:32:00]

fryfrog:

and i asked her to go backwards and make sure i wasn't charged for it since may

[07:32:00]

fryfrog:

she was all like "yeah, you haven't been charged for it it was just this month"

[07:32:00]

fryfrog:

she fucking lied to me, out and out

[07:32:00]

fryfrog:

and then she didn't even fix me from getting billed for it!

[07:32:00]

fryfrog:

and they have no record of her even trying to do so

[07:32:00]

mchou:

fryfrog: hahah

[07:33:00]

fryfrog:

only 1 of 2 things is going to happen

[07:33:00]

fryfrog:

they asked for 72 hours to check on some shit with the cable modem

[07:33:00]

mchou:

how about the 2nd or 3rd time you called?

[07:33:00]

fryfrog:

1) they will credit me for 5 months at ~$50/mo and then i'll dump their fuck asses

[07:34:00]

fryfrog:

2) they find some reason not to credit me and i dump their fuck asses, don't pay the $160 bill i owe and maybe go and kill all of them

[07:34:00]

fryfrog:

ALL OF THEM

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fryfrog:

one time my gf called cause they were charging us for the DVR that they promised to let us have for free

[07:34:00]

fryfrog:

and of course they were like "okay, we'll fix that" and would you be surprised to find out they never fixed it? :p

[07:35:00]

fryfrog:

i want to move to directv anyway, but i was hoping to wait until they flipped over to MPEG4

[07:35:00]

SqWaw:

comcast, from what i hear, is the shittiest ISP

[07:35:00]

SqWaw:

ever.

[07:35:00]

fryfrog:

not just ISP

[07:35:00]

Krazylegz:

Hmm. I have Comcast.

[07:35:00]

fryfrog:

they are the shitties broadcast company too :)

[07:36:00]

SqWaw:

i have cablevision/optimum online... I love it

[07:36:00]

SqWaw:

October 2nd we are all getting upgraded to 20 down / 2 up.

[07:36:00]

fryfrog:

they out and out missed the first 3 appointments to install hdtv and cable internet

[07:36:00]

fryfrog:

then the fuckhole comes and installs the cable internet but for some reason doesn't know anything about the hdtv :/

[07:36:00]

SqWaw:

ROFL

[07:36:00]

SqWaw:

gotta love that organization

[07:36:00]

fryfrog:

after getting the inet "up" it is down for 4+ hours a day for 4 days in a row

[07:37:00]

fryfrog:

so we finally get the HDTV guy to come out and at least THAT worked... gave him our cable modem after "canceling" the internet service like 5 days after signing up

[07:37:00]

fryfrog:

okay, rant done unless someone makes the mistake of saying "comcast" :p

[07:38:00]

fryfrog:

but i was wondering how the recording quality of sat box -> pvr over svideo would be

[07:38:00]

fryfrog:

and if it would be worth getting HD dtv boxes and recording "HD" over svideo

[07:38:00]

fryfrog:

(or cable hdtv boxes for that matter)

[07:39:00]

Krazylegz:

Interesting. My Comcast Internet has been pretty reliable.

[07:39:00]

fryfrog:

oh, yeah my parents who live in the same city about 20min away... theirs is rock fucking solid

[07:39:00]

mchou:

Mine too, except during wee hrs of some mornings

[07:39:00]

Krazylegz:

Not 100% of course, but down maybe 10 hours that I've noticed over the past 6 months?

[07:39:00]

fryfrog:

when we first moved in, cable was the only thing available

[07:39:00]

qfx:

Hey Folks, anyone know what htis means?

[07:39:00]

qfx:

Host 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server

[07:39:00]

fryfrog:

but it was queer as folk

[07:40:00]

qfx:

well, other than the obvious. More "how to fix it"

[07:40:00]

fryfrog:

it probably means either your mysql.conf file doesn't enable network

[07:40:00]

fryfrog:

or your "username@something" user entry is wrong

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fryfrog:

(or doesn't exist)

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fryfrog:

i watched Sahara the other day, and for a kinda cheesy action movie i thought it was quite good

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Krazylegz:

Which one is that?

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fryfrog:

ummm

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Krazylegz:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0318649/

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fryfrog:

the one about some guys looking for an old civil war ship

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fryfrog:

yeah

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SqWaw:

Cardoe, comee bacccckkkkk

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Cardoe:

SqWaw: yeah I don't say my website and link to mythtv.org

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SqWaw:

(01:21:32) (SqWaw) oh wait, nm

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SqWaw:

(01:21:34) (SqWaw) i misread.

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SqWaw:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0458352/ <-- I was in the city this weekend by 6th avenue and something

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SqWaw:

and i saw that being filmed...

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qfx:

Hmmm... what if I want to run mythtv while logged in as a user other than mythtv

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Cardoe:

qfx: so do it

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djperegrine:

hehehe

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qfx:

but I can't connect to the database. Or at least mythtv-setup won't

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qfx:

actually, the likely problem is something about 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this mysql server

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Cardoe:

if you're on the same box it should not be an issue

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qfx:

I am on the same box. But it says that when I try to run mythtv-setup

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Krazylegz:

Shouldn't that say "localhost" and not "localhost.localdomain"?

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Krazylegz:

I've never seen a MySQL configure that would allow a login from localhost.localdomain, since that is not the same as localhost.

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qfx:

maybe it should be... but where do I change that?

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Krazylegz:

mythtv-setup?

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Krazylegz:

I'm not 100% sure.

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qfx:

mythtv-setup won't even go though

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qfx:

hmm...

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fryfrog:

qfx: i told you, open up your mysql.conf file

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fryfrog:

er, my.cnf

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fryfrog:

check for something like "#bind-address = 127.0.0.1" or "#skip-networking"

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Krazylegz:

fryfrog: Are you going to tell him to correct the password = in the [client] section of my.cnf?

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Krazylegz:

Ah.

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fryfrog:

er, well it won't have a # prolly :)

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fryfrog:

qfx: you also didn't say weather you added a mysql user, did you?

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fryfrog:

mysql users and "system" users are not the same

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qfx:

I ran 'mysql -u root /var/meh/meh/mythtv/databases/mc.sql'

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fryfrog:

does that create the mythtv user?

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fryfrog:

in mysql?

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qfx:

I think it's supposed to

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qfx:

I was just following jarod wilsons guide for fedora core 4... it's really well written and clear. But it's pretty low on details in case of problems

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fryfrog:

what happens if you do "mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg" and use "mythtv" as the pw?

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Krazylegz:

fryfrog: Yes, it creates the mythtv MySQL user.

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qfx:

well well well. That works perfectly!

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qfx:

I can connect to the db anyhow

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fryfrog:

okay, throw in a "-h localhost"

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fryfrog:

and see if it still works

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fryfrog:

if it does, next try "-h <your real ip here>"

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Krazylegz:

mc.sql should allow you to connect with the mythtv user from %.

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qfx:

yah, so -h localhost will still connect. But localhost.localdomain doesn't. So I wonder if when it does a reverse lookup (mysql) on 127.0.0.1 it figures it's localhost.localdomain

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Krazylegz:

Do it yourself.

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Krazylegz:

host localhost.localdomain

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fryfrog:

edit your /etc/hosts file

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fryfrog:

make sure it just says "127.0.0.1 localhost" maybe

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qfx:

It seems to have some progress when I type "localhost" into the ip addy for mythtv-setup! Yippie!

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fryfrog:

awsome :)

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fryfrog:

you *might* want to use your actual ip

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fryfrog:

if you ever plan on having more than one front end

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Krazylegz:

What? Why?!

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Krazylegz:

Why would you want to do that if this frontend is on the same machine as this backend?

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fryfrog:

you wouldn't

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fryfrog:

unless you ever plan on having a remote slave or frontend, i think

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qfx:

I hope to get a frontend working on my xbox

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fryfrog:

in that case, i'd fill in your actual ip

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fryfrog:

in mythtv-setup

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Krazylegz:

Even if you have a slave/remote frontend, you can just enter the IP/hostname/FQDN on that one.

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Krazylegz:

I'd still recommend against using the IP if you are using DHCP.

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fryfrog:

i was under the impression that the fe/slave aquired the db / master's ip from that setting

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fryfrog:

but i could be wrong

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Krazylegz:

Well, it can do a lookup.

[08:06:00]

fryfrog:

in that case, it'd prolly be okay to use your hostname instead of ip

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fryfrog:

guess you'll find out :)

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fryfrog:

i used fixed dhcp leases, so using the ip is natural

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Krazylegz:

It's also easier if you don't have your own DNS setup, but in that case, don't be lazy. :-)

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simcop2387:

anyone know any nice video editors that'll work on a named pipe in linux? (best would be if it could only do playback and splitting/cutting/joining/dumping live)

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qfx:

OK I put "localhost" in the IP for the mythsetup, and that seems to work. Now when I go to "live tv" it's just a blank screen. But let me try a couple things first

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qfx:

Actually, is there any way to run MythTV in a window? Rather than the whole screen?

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qfx:

Hmmm... I may have accidently set up 2 cards, and I only have 1 :(

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ehaase:

where can i find a nice guide on setting up my xorg.conf file to have my geforce fx 5200 properly output video to my TV?

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ehaase:

is it possible to display output from my video card to tv AND my monitor?

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qfx:

Sweet

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qfx:

So I got some TV

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qfx:

Now to read the usage docs.... anyone quickly tell me if you can use Myth in a window mode? Opposed to fullscreen

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SqWaw:

yea

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ip_goat_rodeo:

its in the mythsetup options buried deep somewhere I believe

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SqWaw:

its somewhere in appearence setup

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qfx:

cool

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ehaase:

omg, how come when i startx display is only sent to my tv and not my monitor?

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SqWaw:

same place as the "hide mouse" option

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qfx:

I don't see either hidemouse nor window in mythsetup... I'll try from the frontened

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qfx:

found it

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qfx:

now... resizing the window

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qfx:

...

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k-man:

hello

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k-man:

is there a list of the keys for mythmusic somewhere?

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k-man:

id like to find keys to rewind by the second

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k-man:

or forward by the second

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qfx:

sweet

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k-man:

damn, my remote doesn't have enough keys

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k-man:

*sigh*

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fryfrog:

time to beat someone up and steal their remote!

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k-man:

yeah

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k-man:

is there a list somewhere of all the keys mythmusic supports?

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blakeb:

can anyone help me with a mythfilldatabase problem?

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fryfrog:

not unless you tell us what the problem is ;)

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blakeb:

hehe

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blakeb:

im only getting 401 unauthorized, not 200 ok

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blakeb:

i've ran myth-setup 3x

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blakeb:

and checked my account with labs.zap2it.com

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blakeb:

it looks ok on the site

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blakeb:

but i cant connect via mythfilldatabase

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blakeb:

any ideas?

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J_:

I have a linux machine I tried to emerge mythTV on the other day and when it finished there was a message that said mythmedia/mythTV (version #) failed, and then a couple lines later it said process complete

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J_:

where do I look in the menus to find the prog and see if it works, and if it's not there what can I do?

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J_:

can anyone give me some help?

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fryfrog:

erm

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fryfrog:

gentoo i assume?

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J_:

Vida LInux 64 v1.2

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fryfrog:

wtf is Vida linux?

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J_:

lmao

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J_:

desktop.vidalinux.com

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J_:

I think that's the website

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J_:

check it out

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J_:

anyway, can u help me...?

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fryfrog:

not with "where do I look in the menus"

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fryfrog:

you'd have to ask the vida people

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J_:

k

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J_:

plz excuse me if I ask something that seems out of place etc, I'm tired and not overly familiar w/ linux

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fryfrog:

sounds like Vida has to be based on gentoo if it uses "emerge" though

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J_:

hmm, might be, as I said I'm not too familiar w/ this stuff

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fryfrog:

you could try "mythtv-setup" or "mythsetup" or "mythfrontend" to see if it installed

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J_:

as in run program and then one of those?

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J_:

or run application

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fryfrog:

ummm

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fryfrog:

again, i dont know vida

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fryfrog:

i'd run a shell like xterm

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fryfrog:

then try those commands

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J_:

yikes, ok, linux newb here, can u give me a little more detail?

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fryfrog:

looks like a dos prompt?

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J_:

oh, terminal in vida-linux, linux equiv of command

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fryfrog:

okay sure

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fryfrog:

i'd try typing "myth" and hit tab a few times

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fryfrog:

see if it auto-completes or offers a list of things with "myth" you can run

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J_:

hmm, ok

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J_:

I'm not sure that I understand what i'm supposed to be doing here

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J_:

I've got the terminal open

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J_:

i'm i typing just myth

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J_:

no slashes etc?

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fryfrog:

right, "myth" followed by the tab key a few times

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J_:

tab doesn't do anything

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fryfrog:

sounds like it didn't install

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fryfrog:

try to install it again and make a note of the error

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J_:

hmm, ok

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J_:

any ideas what might cause a failure?

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fryfrog:

also, why did you pick Vida linux as a newb?

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J_:

a friend recommended it to me

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fryfrog:

sure, lots of ideas

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J_:

hmm

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fryfrog:

you could have bad memory, a cpu that is overheating, a missconfiguration

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J_:

well the first two I doubt

[10:18:00]

fryfrog:

the list goes on and on and on and on with such an inadiquite description of the error

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J_:

considering the cpu is running at 39ish

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J_:

ok, well let me try it again

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fryfrog:

you might also consider using Fedora, which has some excelent myth guides available for it

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fryfrog:

Gentoo isn't very newb friendly, so I would wonder if Vida (which is based on gentoo) could be too

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J_:

hmm, maybe

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J_:

I dunno

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fryfrog:

are you doing this JUST for myth?

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J_:

I honestly don't care how newb friendly it is, since I want to learn more, and I wont learn by not having to do

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J_:

yes/no

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J_:

mythtv motivated me, but I've intended to use linux for a while

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fryfrog:

i'll preface this by saying i love gentoo and have used it since almost the first release...

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J_:

alright, i've got the exact error information

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fryfrog:

but it can be fucking rediculous for a new user

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fryfrog:

put it in pastebin.com

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fryfrog:

(don't paste it to channel)

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J_:

I can't anyway

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J_:

I'm typing on another compie

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fryfrog:

ah

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J_:

and tell me exactly how to make pastebin work so you get the info you want

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fryfrog:

erm

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fryfrog:

copy the text, put it in pastebin

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fryfrog:

click submit?

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J_:

ok

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J_:

well good luck, I typed my name (J_) and hit send, hope it's there

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fryfrog:

i see it and lucky for you the solution is *in* the error message!

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fryfrog:

* Qt is missing MySQL support. Please add

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fryfrog:

* 'mysql' to your USE flags, and re-emerge Qt.

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J_:

alright, I figured that was it, now plz excuse my lack of linux knowledge, wtf is taht

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fryfrog:

honestly, it means you should start with a more friendly distro of linux :)

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fryfrog:

USE flags are a gentoo specific feature

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J_:

well I'm not going to, can you help me get that installed/updated/whatever it needs

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fryfrog:

they kind of let you tailor what kinds of support are compiled into packages

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J_:

ok

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fryfrog:

try "man portage"

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fryfrog:

search for "package.use"

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fryfrog:

(you can search by hitting the / key)

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J_:

ok, are you talking terminal again?

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fryfrog:

perceptive :)

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fryfrog:

Gentoo is not really GUI based, though from reading Vida's site it looks like they are

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J_:

yeah, they are

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fryfrog:

i dunno what tools they offer for admin, but i imagine there has to be something for use flag managment

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J_:

so I found it

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J_:

what do I get to do w/ it

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fryfrog:

did you read about "package.use"?

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J_:

there doesn't appear to be anything to "read"

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J_:

it's just a list of files

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J_:

at least that's what it looks like

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fryfrog:

ah, search once more

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fryfrog:

you can press "/" then enter

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fryfrog:

to repeate the last search

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J_:

ah

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J_:

well i think I found the section

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fryfrog:

you sure picked a doosie of a distro :)

[10:30:00]

fryfrog:

http://forums.vidalinux.com/

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fryfrog:

thats probably the best place to learn/read about your Vida

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J_:

I could have figured that out

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fryfrog:

your questions are completely not-myth related btw, just lucky you found a gentoo user in here :)

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J_:

I typically get more help from talking to a person live

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fryfrog:

true, and vida doesn't seem to have a #channel

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fryfrog:

#gentoo has a TON more people, i'd suggest popping in there

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J_:

yeah, thnx

[10:31:00]

fryfrog:

likely to even be some Vida users in there

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fryfrog:

actually, there are usually too many people in there for my taste, hard to keep up :)

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J_:

ah

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fryfrog:

also check out the file "/etc/make.conf"

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fryfrog:

that is where the global USE flags are kept

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fryfrog:

the /etc/portage/package.use file lets you specify specific use flags for specific packages

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J_:

k, thanks

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fryfrog:

do they have any sort of an "about" or something?

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fryfrog:

maybe somethhing explaining why they exist?

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fryfrog:

http://wiki.vidalinux.com/wiki/index.php/Current_events

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fryfrog:

wtf?

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fryfrog:

like half the wiki pages are spam :/

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lkasjf:

hello all...I hate just join and ask a question, but I'm having grave problems with my myth installation...\n Namely, when trying to record it fails and gives the following errors in the backend log:\n 2005-09–24 03:24:33.304 Channel(/dev/video1): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "3" in the "setup" Channel Editor.

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lkasjf:

2005-09–24 03:24:33.707 Changing from None to RecordingOnly

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lkasjf:

2005-09–24 03:24:33.934 Unknown video codec

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lkasjf:

2005-09–24 03:24:33.940 Please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles and

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lkasjf:

2005-09–24 03:24:33.944 setup the four 'Software Encoders' profiles.

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lkasjf:

2005-09–24 03:24:33.950 Assuming RTjpeg for now.

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lkasjf:

2005-09–24 03:24:33.954 NVR: Error, unknown audio codec

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lkasjf:

2005-09–24 03:24:34.065 NVR: Won't work with the streaming interface, falling back

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lkasjf:

VIDOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument

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lkasjf:

2005-09–24 03:24:34.094 TVRec: Recording Prematurely Stopped

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lkasjf:

.

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lkasjf:

.

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lkasjf:

Now, I have checked that channel 3 does exist in the channel editor

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lkasjf:

also, I'm using two PVR-150-MCEs and they both run flawlessly (mplayer /dev/video0 works fine)

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lkasjf:

I've also verified that the cards are set up in mythtvsetup corrector (as 250s)

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fryfrog:

hi, next time try pastebin.com for channel floods

[10:43:00]

lkasjf:

if anyone has any idea what this could be, please let me knw

[10:43:00]

lkasjf:

flyfrog: will do, didn't know about it

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fryfrog:

did you setup a channel lineup?

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lkasjf:

yes

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lkasjf:

any ideas?

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fryfrog:

did you try and configure your card to save in a format other than mpeg2?

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lkasjf:

i don't think thats possible with a PVR-150, it is by definition a MPEG-2 encoder card

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lkasjf:

by design would be a better way of putting it

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fryfrog:

yeah, thats what i was getting at :)

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fryfrog:

nothing specific comes to mind, but it sounds like a setting is toast somewhere

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lkasjf:

ok, let me ask this

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lkasjf:

do you know how i could completely wipe all settings?

[10:51:00]

lkasjf:

and start over?

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fryfrog:

sure, thats easy!

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fryfrog:

fire up "mythsetup"

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fryfrog:

(or mythtv-setup?)

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fryfrog:

the first two questions it asks are like... "do you want me to nuke the world" or something :)

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lkasjf:

no, those leave the MySQL database in tact (I tried them already, my recording preferences still were there"

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lkasjf:

)

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fryfrog:

ah, then how about "mysqladmin -u root -p drop mythconverg"

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fryfrog:

followed perhaps by the re-import of the mc.sql file?

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fryfrog:

that'd kick everything's ass

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lkasjf:

alright, ill try that and see if it fixes my problem

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lkasjf:

i appreciate all the help

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fryfrog:

np, wish i'd seen the error before

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fryfrog:

but all i got are those PVR 250s :)

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JoshTriplett:

Hello. I just ran into a problem, in which I was recording a program, and chose to watch that program as it was recording, and the program spontaneously stopped recording (which I noticed when I hit the end of the 8:42 that had been recorded already). I don't know if this was caused by watching the program while it recorded, or some other issue; however, the recording file on disk is not getting any larger, and mythtvbackend.log shows no e

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fryfrog:

oh no, no e!

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SqWaw:

errors... maybe?

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fryfrog:

no no, i'm pretty sure he means it shows no e :)

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JoshTriplett:

fryfrog: I'm guessing the message got cut off due to length? :)

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SqWaw:

ah okay

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cosmo-:

hello.. anyonke know what's the status on dvb subtitles currently?

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JoshTriplett:

fryfrog: "...no error messages."

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fryfrog:

sorry, i should have used <sarcasm> tags :)

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fryfrog:

did your backend crash? i'd guess not

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** JoshTriplett knew you were kidding. **

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fryfrog:

what do the backend logs say around that time?

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JoshTriplett:

fryfrog: Nope. Frontend and backend are just fine.

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Hoxzer:

can I setup mythtv without having a TV-card?

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fryfrog:

Hoxzer: hell yeah!

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fryfrog:

Hoxzer: of course... it'd be all kinds of useless :)

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Hoxzer:

:E

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fryfrog:

you can build a car with no engine too :)

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Hoxzer:

yeah, just want to test it

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fryfrog:

sure

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fryfrog:

you can pick up any $10 bttv based tv card too

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JoshTriplett:

fryfrog: Not so much; the guide data would work, MythVideo, MythGame, MythMusic, MythDVD, etc, would all work.

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fryfrog:

for testing (or even using later if you are okay with the quality)

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Hoxzer:

Fryfrog: I like to have digital TV-card

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fryfrog:

sure, but there are tons of better apps for games, video and dvd and music

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fryfrog:

myth would be... silly :)

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Hoxzer:

Yeah, but I can setup them to diffrend work spaces

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JoshTriplett:

fryfrog: The log just has the "Starting recording" message, "Changing from None to RecordingOnly", "Can't enable VBI recording", "Reschedule requested for id 0.", Scheduled 171 items in 0.7 = 0.01 match + 0.72 place

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JoshTriplett:

Nothing notable.

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JoshTriplett:

fryfrog: Nothing interesting in dmesg or the frontend log either.

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fryfrog:

odd :/

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JoshTriplett:

Indeed.

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JoshTriplett:

Strangely, Myth still thinks it is being recorded, right now.

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** JoshTriplett isn't bothered by this program not recording, but is bothered by the lack of an apparent reason. **

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whyz:

hello.. i have 2 remote controls (and two receivers) which i'd like to be able to use with lirc.. anyone got experience with this?

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ehaase:

my cable provider isn't listed on zap2it... what are my alternatives?

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Krazylegz:

Tivo? :-)

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ehaase:

haha... no, for real tho

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ehaase:

is there a way to manually configure all the channels?

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Krazylegz:

Yes, I believe so.

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Krazylegz:

It's in the Channel Editor section of mythtv-setup.

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ehaase:

ok, is it a pain in the butt?

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Krazylegz:

I don't know.

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Krazylegz:

You're in Canada?

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Krazylegz:

Looks like you can still try to use xmltv.

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ehaase:

i'm in da US

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Krazylegz:

Yeah, you can try xmltv.

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ehaase:

where would i download the info from?

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Krazylegz:

No idea. I use DataDirect.

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ehaase:

from my understanding xmltv is just the progrma tha tprocesses the info but i'd have to get the info from a server or something right?

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ehaase:

could i use zap2it and manually map my channels?

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Krazylegz:

I think you would still need a provider setup.

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ehaase:

zap2it would be my provider

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ehaase:

i'm just wondering if i could map the channels of a different cable company to my channels

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shiznix:

xmltv comes with a set of default scripts to grab the info from the web for your location

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shiznix:

but i think the defaults do everywhere except America & Canada

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shiznix:

more than likely someone would have written a tv_grab_us script for xmltv

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Krazylegz:

He's gone.

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gnuyen:

Hi guys

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gnuyen:

I've been reading a lot, but I can't seem to get a straight answer

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gnuyen:

how well supported currently is the DVR 500 or 150 series of encoder boards?

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Krazylegz:

You mean the Hauppauge PVR-500 and PVR-150?

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gnuyen:

yeah

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Krazylegz:

I believe they're working, but I have a PVR-350.

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gnuyen:

i have 3 pvr-250s

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gnuyen:

but someone asked me about a dvr-500 and it looks attractivef

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Krazylegz:

If I recall correctly, no one in here has ever steered someone away from a PVR-150 or PVR-500.

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gnuyen:

as it has 2 inputs

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Krazylegz:

Yeah, PVR-500 is 2-PVR-150s.

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gnuyen:

okay

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gnuyen:

i guess i can say it's okay then

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Krazylegz:

Do you know how to check the log?

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Krazylegz:

Hmm, MythStreamWeb doesn't display any streams, but MythStream does...

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fryfrog:

gnuyen: you'll need to use a 0.3.x line of ivtv, but that shouldn't be to terrible

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crabstic:

Has anyone comtemplated on the idea of including Last.fm Player (http://www.last.fm/help/player/) functionality in MythMusic?

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fryfrog:

i think its in svn version?

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fryfrog:

wait, maybe i'm thinking of xbox's xbmc :/

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rah:

I have a problem

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rah:

my frontend says this:

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rah:

2005-09–24 14:43:38.111 Connecting to backend server: flax.arb.net:6543 (try 1 of 5)

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rah:

Connection timed out.

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Krazylegz:

Haha. Well, I fixed my MythStream.

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rah:

You probably should modify the Master Server settings

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rah:

in the setup program and set the proper IP address.

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rah:

but on my server, I have:

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rah:

rah@flax:~$ sudo netstat -anp | grep 6543

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rah:

tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:6543 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 7923/mythbackend

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rah:

does anyone recognise the problem?

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dev-:

user error

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dev-:

problem is it cant talk to the backend

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dev-:

you need to find out why.

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rah:

dev-: I just asked if you knew why

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dev-:

and i answered

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dev-:

=]

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rah:

dev-: do you know why the frontend is reporting it can't connect?

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dev-:

from hanging out in here lately, i see alot of people just come in and ask questions without spending at least a little bit of time trying to figure it out on their own

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dev-:

it could be anything, rah, check your settings, try connecting yourself, etc etc... diagnose the problem

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rah:

fascinating

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rah:

dev-: done that

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dev-:

then its something so stupid that you overlooked it

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rah:

dev-: what now, oh great font of help?

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dev-:

now, i leave you.

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dev-:

&

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Krazylegz:

Heh.

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Krazylegz:

What did you enter in mythtv-setup?

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rah:

Krazylegz: where in mythtv-setup?

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rah:

Krazylegz: enter what?

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Krazylegz:

The IP address and port to use when connecting to the backend.

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fryfrog:

anyone in here record from satalite?

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rah:

Krazylegz: I put in 'flax.arb.net'

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rah:

and didn't touch the port

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rah:

you can see the backend is listening on the same port

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fryfrog:

and does "flax.arb.net" resolve?

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rah:

of course it does

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fryfrog:

and if you change to "localhost" or your reaip ip?

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rah:

if I change to my real IP, it fixes it

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rah:

or rather, to the appropriate IP

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fryfrog:

i've only ever used an ip in that field, i'm not sure if a hostname is valid

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fryfrog:

does "localhost" work too?

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fryfrog:

or only 127.0.0.1

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fryfrog:

oh, or is that a remote fe?

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rah:

I don't know

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fryfrog:

solved then eh?

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rah:

I passed that ages ago

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rah:

I'm on to a segfault now

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fryfrog:

segfaults are a feature!

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rah:

segfaults are bullshit

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fryfrog:

yes, they are poop

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holycow:

mornin all

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holycow:

i got my haupage 250 remote working ... at least the module

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holycow:

i can't figure out why myth frontend isn't responding to it

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holycow:

i followed this page:

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holycow:

http://www.abarbaccia.com/content/view/18/29/

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holycow:

i've run out of clues on what to look for here, anyone have any tips on what to check next?

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LarruManChu:

Newb question but I've seen conflicting answers: What firmare versions should I be using for pvr-350 and pvr-150mce? currently my IVTV INIT is reporting:

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LarruManChu:

ivtv: Encoder revision: 0x02040011

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LarruManChu:

ivtv: Decoder revision: 0x02020023

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LarruManChu:

It's using the same encoder firmware for 350 and 150mce

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holycow:

ah got it, symlink was in wrong dir

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holycow:

LarruManChu, not sure, let me give you the link i used to setup mine on ubuntu

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holycow:

http://www.abarbaccia.com/content/view/15/29/

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LarruManChu:

thanks dude

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holycow:

that might have some info you can use

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LarruManChu:

ok here's a problem IVTV TikiWiki : PVR150–500Firmware indicates that HcwFalcn.rom (pvr-150mce firmware) should be symlinked to ivtv-fw-enc.bin. I already have an ivtv-fw-enc.bin recommended by the IVTV WIKI for my pvr-350. These encoder firmwares clearly are different (md5sum). Is there no way to specify a firmware file for each card or can there be only one (highlander style)?

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LarruManChu:

I wouldn't worry about this but I'm getting card specific problem while watching live tv or recordings while they are still recording

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simon_c:

anyone a clue about how to enable the svideo out on a neomagic card ? suse9.3

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fryfrog:

does anyone know why irw would register keypresses just fine but mythtv-svn wouldn't have the remote working?

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guitar256:

is it possible to have different mplayer commands for diffeferent video files?

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LarruManChu:

yes

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fryfrog:

LarruManChu: i think there can only be one .bin :)

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fryfrog:

LarruManChu: have you tried with the firmware for the 150 to be used on the 250/350?

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fryfrog:

i think it'll work

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LarruManChu:

guitar: if you go to video settings there's an item called file types where you can set your command

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LarruManChu:

fryfrog: not yet but I will

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mocker:

I finally got a control pad for mythgame.

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mocker:

totally worth it.. :)

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mocker:

Just need to figure out how to reset the nvidia overscan after the games exit.

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mocker:

for some reason the emulators kill that

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fryfrog:

re-run nvidia-settings -l?

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moo:

has anyone managed to successfuly install mythtv on debian unstable (Sarge) ?

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mocker:

fry: Probably, just haven't had a chance to play w/ it.

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moo:

i just cant get mine to compile :(

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mocker:

If that works I'll need to mae some kind of wrapper for the emulators.

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moo:

i get the error

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moo:

common.h:61: error: array type has incomplete element type

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moo:

common.h:65: error: array type has incomplete element type

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moo:

make[2]: *** [utils.o] Error 1

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moo:

when trying to make, anyone know what that might be?

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** mocker goes to look at mythtv wiki to see what new features are coming. **

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moo:

:/

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beavis:

mocker: I'm never able to find this new-features-page

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nuongu1:

Does anyone have any experience, positive or negative with x86_64 and ivtv?

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qfx:

I can't change channels within Mythtv :(

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moo:

well i cant even get it to compile ;<

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qfx:

what distro are you using moo?

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qfx:

ah, debian. Why don't you use hte debian packages?

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qfx:

http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/

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moo:

yeah i try that

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moo:

but i get errors

[18:20:00]

moo:

so i tried manually

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moo:

and i get more errors

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moo:

it's not my day really

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moo:

so the instructions say, add those lines (like above) to source list, done that, then update, done that no problems, then do: apt-install build-dep mythtv – done that also – it downloaded and installed about 20 things and thats was fine

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moo:

and then when i do: apt-get install mythtv

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moo:

i get http://pastebin.ca/23784

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moo:

:/

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qfx:

ok

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beavis:

moo sid?

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qfx:

try 'mythtv-suite'

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moo:

E: Couldn't find package mythtv-suite

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beavis:

hehe

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beavis:

moo are you on sid?

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beavis:

or sarge?

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moo:

im on sarge

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qfx:

so presumably you tried mythtv-backend first?

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moo:

yea

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moo:

i ge tthe same errors

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qfx:

damn... isn't apt supposed to do all those dependancies itself?

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moo:

only diff package names it wont install

[18:25:00]

moo:

yeah

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moo:

thats what i thought

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moo:

also when i did apt-get build-dep mythtv, it listed like 20 things and installed all of em no errors

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fryfrog:

does anyone use the gentoo mythtv-svn ebuilds?

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beavis:

moo did you start the dpkg-buildpackage?

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moo:

yeah i tried that

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moo:

but i get more errors

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moo:

:D

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beavis:

moo apt-get source mythtv

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moo:

oh btw my sources.list file is http://pastebin.ca/23785

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moo:

yeah beavis, i did that

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moo:

and it took like 2 hrs compiling the package

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moo:

and then i get the same error if i try to install it :D

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beavis:

moo: you tried to install the one from the repository

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beavis:

moo: not the one you've created

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moo:

no i tried to install the one i created

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beavis:

moo: ^^^^^ apt-get install mythtv <-- that's what you said

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moo:

yes thats what i did earlier

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moo:

before i tried making the package

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beavis:

moo: dpkg -i *.deb

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moo:

yes :)

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moo:

but i get the same errors as when i try to manually make download from mythtv

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qfx:

can you download them directly from the mythtv/binary-i386 dir and try them from there.

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qfx:

with RPM

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beavis:

moo: just tell me the error you get when you dpkg -i *deb

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moo:

uh ok i'll just find my log

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moo:

sec

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beavis:

moo: or just remove everything what's already installed

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beavis:

moo: apt-get remove --purge mythtv*

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beavis:

moo: then dpkg -i *.deb

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moo:

but it puzzles me why i cant just use the packages from that list site

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beavis:

moo: because they're made for sid

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moo:

but surely 'unstable' is sarge?

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Artimus:

I'm working on setting up a box for playback of media only (no TV capture or anything like that). Would a 400mhz i586 with 192mb of ram and a GeForce FX5200 (don't ask...) be sufficient?

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beavis:

moo: and mdz hasn't uploaded the -5 so far (for sarge and for unstable)

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moo:

ah right ok

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beavis:

moo: sid=unstable, sarge=stable

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Artimus:

No actual DVD decoding will be done. Mostly just XviD files.

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moo:

oh i thought sarge was unstable

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fryfrog:

Artimus: that'd be real borderline, i wouldn't want to do it but it *might* work

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fryfrog:

if you don't have to pay for the hardware, it doesn't hurt to try

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moo:

cuz i downloaded the 'unstable' isos and they're all called sarge.*.iso

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Artimus:

fryfrog: It's the only spare box that I have

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beavis:

moo: so what are you actually using?

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moo:

im not sure now lol

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Artimus:

What does MythTV use for playback of files? Mplayer? Xine?

[18:33:00]

Artimus:

(I'll just fire up a movie with whatever program it uses and try that)

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fryfrog:

which ever you like

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Artimus:

ok, mplayer has always worked better for me

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beavis:

moo: hmm, ok so you just have to install -5, it works for both of them

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moo:

what do u mean install -5?

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beavis:

the latest version mdz has created

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beavis:

the one you can install via apt-get install mythtv is 0.18.1–2

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beavis:

you just need the latest one -4 or -5 (don't remember the exact version number)

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beavis:

ok, it's 0.18.1–4 (that's what you should now have on your hd)

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moo:

yeah thats what i made the package from

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moo:

but i cant seem to find the .deb now

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beavis:

updatedb && locate mythfrontend

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beavis:

updatedb && locate mythtv-frontend

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moo:

ok so if i make the -4 package

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moo:

from the source

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beavis:

it should be there after dpkg-buildpackage ;)

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moo:

then try to dpkg that

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beavis:

lots of them

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moo:

yea

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moo:

but i think i made the older one

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moo:

not -4

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beavis:

that's not possible

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moo:

well i cant find the file

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moo:

so im making it again atm

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beavis:

you can only create debs for the latest one if you use apt-get sourcde

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moo:

well i cant find it, i must have deleted it (this was a few days ago)

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moo:

so im remaking it now after apt-get source mythtv

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moo:

btw is there a way i can find out what version of debian im running? cuz i swear i installed testing version – but it was a long time ago

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moo:

ie: unstable version

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moo:

see i thought woody was stable and sarge was testing

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beavis:

moo: you're using todays testing

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beavis:

so the one that'll be called etch

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BoBotheClown:

hi everyone

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beavis:

more /etc/debian_version

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guitar256:

is there a way to pass yum multiple things to install at once?

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cdb222:

hi there...

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BoBotheClown:

Have a mythbox with pvr 350 – layout = digital cable box --> pvr-350 --> television

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BoBotheClown:

can set passthrough fine using the ivtv module

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cdb222:

i'm wondering if anybody has had issues with one specific channel not recording any sound, but the rest work fine

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BoBotheClown:

but dont know how to do the settings in input sources

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BoBotheClown:

anyone done this before?

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BoBotheClown:

want to capture video0 into myth and pipe back out to video16

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BoBotheClown:

so I can record/pause live tv

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moo:

yeah bevis, debian_version = 'testing/unstable'

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moo:

so that means etch?

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moo:

Ok beavis – and thanks a lot for the help so far, got the error msg now for trying to do dpkg -i *.deb (just made the deb files now from the -4 source) just making a paste

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moo:

http://pastebin.ca/23787

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beavis:

#

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beavis:

Package libqt3-mt-mysql is not installed.

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beavis:

#

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beavis:

Package libqt3c102-mt-mysql is not installed.

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moo:

yea

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moo:

just tried apt-get install for them

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moo:

mroe errors :D

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moo:

Package libqt3-mt-mysql is not available, but is referred to by another package.

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moo:

This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or

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moo:

is only available from another source

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moo:

for both

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moo:

hmm

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moo:

should i just trash my system and reinstall with sid as base?

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moo:

because it should just install from the apt-get install on sid right?

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beavis:

moo: apt-cache policy libqt3-mt-mysql

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beavis:

moo: you can always switch between sid and testing

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moo:

libqt3-mt-mysql:

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moo:

Installed: (none)

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moo:

Candidate: (none)

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moo:

Version Table:

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hfghfh:

can somenone explain to me the difference between callsign and channel number in myth

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moo:

how do i do that beavis?

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moo:

infact, is there an easy way just to upgrade my system to sid?

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beavis:

moo: just let it on testing, it should work

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hfghfh:

when is the callsign used and when do i use the channel number?

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moo:

well it doesn't tho :/

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beavis:

apt-cache policy libqt3c102-mt-mysql

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moo:

Installed: (none)

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moo:

Candidate: 3:3.3.4–3

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moo:

Version Table:

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moo:

3:3.3.4–3 0

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moo:

500 ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org testing/main Packages

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beavis:

so take this one ;)

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moo:

apt-get install on that?

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beavis:

yes

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moo:

http://pastebin.ca/23789

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moo:

more errors ;s

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moo:

but am i right thinking if i just upgrade to sid, the whole thing should work from simply: apt-get install mythtv ?

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moo:

cuz i may just do that, it clearly doesn't wanna work on my current version ;/

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m4lu7:

taking a stab here... anyone with a via epia-m mobo?

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beavis:

moo: I have debs for snv and for 0.18.1 for unstable on a server if you're going to switch, but just give it a one more try ;)

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LarruManChu:

I'm ready to give up on my motherboard. It's nforce2 and I hate it. Any suggestions on a new motherboard?

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moo:

yes

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moo:

i think i got it

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moo:

:DDDD

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moo:

thanks beavis

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beavis:

don't forget to start the db

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beavis:

while you're installing

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moo:

how do i do that

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moo:

it gave me no option

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moo:

hmm i dont think i have x installed

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MReimer_:

Hello, can someone tell me if it's possible to run MythTV on an Intel Celeron 700 MHz box? I want to use a DVB card to view digital TV and if possible I want to use timeshifting.

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beavis:

moo: /etc/init.d/mysql start as root

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BoBotheClown:

anyone know how to choose which input source to use for a given recording???

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BoBotheClown:

I have two, 1=tuner, 2=svideo

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LarruManChu:

MReimer: 700MHz should be fine as long as your tuner card has hardware encoding

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beavis:

MReimer_: sure it should work, just join us on #mythtv-de, there're only dvb users ;)

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mchou:

MReimer_: you want to WATCH on that same box?

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MReimer_:

Yes, anything on one box. I don't want to connect this box to any network at all. I've locked in the technical details about my box. It has 733 MHz.

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MReimer_:

s/locked/looked/

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mchou:

MReimer_: I'd recommend against it

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mchou:

I forget what res DVB is, but that box is marginal at best for decode.

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LarruManChu:

mchou: unless you use a pvr-350 ;)

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mchou:

you can use it as a pure backend (HW record, no watching)

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mchou:

LarruManChu: lol, you of all ppl ought to know. You done any watching lately w/ 350? :)

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LarruManChu:

I am right now... works great

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LarruManChu:

except when it crashes once a month

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mchou:

PVR needs to be reliable :)

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LarruManChu:

if I take out my 150mce it'll never crash

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LarruManChu:

"never"

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qfx:

anyone know where mythfilldatabase gets the IP addy for connecting to backend server?

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LarruManChu:

I'm sure it's in the database

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LarruManChu:

probably also in frontend settings

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mchou:

MReimer_: what kind of celeron is it? Tualatin?

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mchou:

MReimer_: cause you can upgrade the CPU for like less than $15......

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mchou:

I upgraded my p2–450 to p3–850 for $10 last week. Straight CPU swap on a BX board.

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mchou:

it can go up to 1.4Ghz :)

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hadees:

anyone have an idea when the next mythtv release will be?

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xris:

no time soon

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qfx:

yah, the problem is definitely in the mythfill database (I think) because it doesn't get through the "connecting to backend server"

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qfx:

so I can't change channels in mythtv. I CAN change channels with ivtvctl, or ptune.pl

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hadees:

xris, any improvements of intrest going to be in there?

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xris:

hadees: .mpg suffix

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xris:

honestly, I can't remember what else is new — been using svn for too long

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hadees:

xris, mpg? you mean instead of nuv

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xris:

as well as

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xris:

the filename is now stored in the db, so you can have the files be named anything you want. and Isaac thankfully added code so that mpeg files actually get .mpg suffix

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xris:

and I rewrote mythlink (contrib) so that it renames the files instead of just symlinking them

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hadees:

neat, so does that mean the files the aren't going to have those crazy numbers? meaning i can actually tell which show is in which nuv

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GeM:

Does someone know how to get XV support working on pvr-350 tv-out ?

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GeM:

i can't get ivtv-fb to load

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qfx:

hmm... so now mythfilldatabase is running without an error, but I still can't change channels.

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qfx:

Anyone got any ideas?

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Captain_Murdoch:

hadees: not in stock code currently, it does chanid_starttime.[mpg|nuv] but I wouldn't be suprised to see someone submit a patch that would alllow other naming conventions. Could be even allow something like the JobQueue substitution keywords like you could say %TITLE%-%SUBTITLE%-%YEAR%MONTH%DAY%.%EXT%

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Captain_Murdoch:

missed a few % in there but you get the idea

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Philipp:

hi, is there someone who's running a dvb card?

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Captain_Murdoch:

couldn't guarantee uniqueness that way so the user could shoot theirself in the foot pretty easy then, so maybe not. :)

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Philipp:

mythtv-setup cant find my card although /etc/init.d/dvb start works

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Philipp:

and mythtv-setup says "couldnt open /dev/video0 to probe its inputs"

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Philipp:

shouldn't it search on /dev/dvb or so?

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moo:

beavis – im gonna reinstall debian from scratch – if i reinstall using SID isos then i should just be able to just: apt-get install mythtv after editing my sourses.list file right?

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Philipp:

was there an answer for me?

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beavis:

moo: i doubt it, -2 is quite old and was done for the old sid

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beavis:

moo: what's wrong with your -4 packages?

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moo:

well i find that i cant get xwindows to work now

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Philipp:

do you know if i need ivtv for dvb ?

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moo:

is there not a version of debian i can just download and install which will just work straight with the mythtv packages ;/

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Philipp:

mythtv-setup cant find my card although /etc/init.d/dvb start works – and the card is running with vdr

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Philipp:

any ideas?

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beavis:

Philipp: no ivtv is needed for dvb

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Philipp:

beavis: ivtv is needed or is not needed?

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qfx:

Anybody know where I put in my xmltv info? For finding channels

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beavis:

Philipp: not needed

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beavis:

moo: I have packages for sid you just can install

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Hoxzer^:

can I somewhere get a list about what TV-cards are combitable with mythtv?

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qfx:

Anybody know where I put in my xmltv info? For finding channels

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moo:

beavis, could you send me those packages?

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dbroo:

hi all. does anyone know how i can use ivtvctl to change my nova-t dvb card to output 4:3 Letterbox mode? is that possible? thanks

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dbroo:

sorry, that';s not very clear. i'm outputting on a pvr-350. is it that card i need to set to output 4:3 Letterbox mode? and is it possible? i'm not sure if i need to just output in 4:3L or capture in it? the nova-t is capturing the dvb btw, and the pvr-350 is capturing via s-video.

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fryfrog:

2005-09–24 13:45:59.368 Switching to square mode (G.A.N.T.)

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fryfrog:

i have a 16:9 tv, is there some way to not use square mode?

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dbroo:

i have a 4:3 screen and want to get letterbox! help :)

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fryfrog:

does anyone recall the name of that quite pretty OSD, looks a little like MCE maybe?

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xris:

blue?

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fryfrog:

no it was not included in myth :/

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fryfrog:

it was an OSD, not a theme

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fryfrog:

rather, it was *just* an osd

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xris:

oh

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xris:

sorry, missed that

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xris:

no clue, then

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fryfrog:

know anything about getting myth's themes to display in 16:9 instead of a stretched 4:3?

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xris:

I think you just need a 16:9 theme

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fryfrog:

ah, i seem to need a widescreen theme

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fryfrog:

haha

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fryfrog:

they are not included in svn?

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qfx:

Need Help. Cannot change channels in MythTV

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fryfrog:

any idea where one finds myth themes?

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xris:

fryfrog: bi ckye

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xris:

no clue

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fryfrog:

isthmus, thats it!

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xris:

wonder why it's not in myth itself

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fryfrog:

good question

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fryfrog:

okay, how bout this... where can i poke around on the svn?

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grendel970:

svn.mythtv.org

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fryfrog:

oh, that was easy :)

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grendel970:

If anyone wants it, I have the mythburn-ui compiling for 18.1

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grendel970:

http://www.quietearth.us/config/mythburn-ui.tar.gz

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grendel970:

It needs to have a menu item added, just as a plugin type

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grendel970:

also paths are hardcoded and haven't tested this with the mythburn scripts

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grendel970:

and the interface needs some work, but it's functional

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nuongu1:

Anyone using ivtv on x86_64?

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nuongu1:

I had it going on i386, worked fine, installed x86_64 clean, can't get ivtv to tune since then

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grendel970:

got conflicts with v4l modules?

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nuongu1:

No

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nuongu1:

It seems to load just fine, no error messages, but I get just static

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grendel970:

set on the backend right? Mine uses tuner like it's set to channel 4 and then the cable box just sends the data

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grendel970:

so I do ptune 4 and then all channel changes go to the cable box

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grendel970:

I'm using "tuner 0" on the backend

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grendel970:

debian.org has been down since last night..

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grendel970:

wtf?

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guitar256:

in jarod's guide for adding remote front ends it says to: grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"10.0.1.%" identified by "mythtv"; mythtv@ should be changed to my username(right?) and "mythtv" should also be changed(?) I'm not really sure what the second instance is for

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moo:

it's grant all on dbasename.* to user@host identified by password

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moo:

basicly

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grendel970:

http://www.quietearth.us/config/mythburn-ui.tar.gz compiling for 18.1...

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qfx:

Can anyone help me with a channell changing problem? I can't change channels in MythTV.

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grendel970:

using an external cable box?

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guitar256:

is there a way to see what processes are running and what percentage of cpu they're sapping?

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grendel970:

top

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guitar256:

ok, when i run mythfrontend, and then either go into videos, or watch recordings everything freezes

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guitar256:

this is on a remote frontend

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guitar256:

when I go into watch recordings it shows a list of recorded stuff, but I can't start anything without it crashing

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guitar256:

or going into video settings = crash

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qfx:

grendel970 No external box. Just on a regular hauppauge card. I can change channels w/ ptune etc.

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guitar256:

numlock? :)

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qfx:

not even up arrow/down arrow

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guitar256:

what about through the program guide

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qfx:

I'm not even sure how to select a channel for live tv in the program guide

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qfx:

if I press enter it takes me to a scheduling menu

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qfx:

I JUST got MythTV installed and (presuambly) working. I got the program guide from zap2it and 'mythfilldatabase' didn't give me any errors

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guitar256:

x

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qfx:

When I have the guide open, pressing x doesn't seem to do anything

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qfx:

not even a pause, like when I'm trying to "up arrow" with TV on

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guitar256:

x is suppose to change the channel to the highlighted one in the guide

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qfx:

Yah, it doesn't do anything

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PsychoDad:

hi

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PsychoDad:

i installed the mythtv-suite .. and have no clue how to start watching tv :)

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PsychoDad:

anyone able to help?

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xris:

PsychoDad: did you read the docs?

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PsychoDad:

xris: i started with the faq, but it is not very helpful

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guitar256:

keep reading

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PsychoDad:

like the "quickstart" section which does not talk about a quick start

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xris:

there is no super-quick start.

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xris:

read the docs about how to go through mythtv-setup

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xris:

once you get through there, everything should theoretically work (but likely it won't, and then you should come here and people will help)

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PsychoDad:

any good links? the HOWTO at ttp://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO... does not really help

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guitar256:

jarod's myth HOWTO always worked for me, every command is listed you your copy and pasting pleasure

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guitar256:

xris, mythfrontend on a remote box is acting very odd, it doesn't give a 'can't connect to backend error' when I start it, but when i got into watch recordings the verbose output says "connecting to backend (try 1 of 5)" then "using protocol version 15" then it kills itself

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PsychoDad:

any chance to watch tv without the mysql database stuff?

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KillerBun:

Why dont you just install a db?

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guitar256:

KillerBun, ?

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KillerBun:

it was for PsychoDad.

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guitar256:

oh, his ?...nm

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PsychoDad:

KillerBun: how do i "just install a db" ?

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PsychoDad:

mysqld is started

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KillerBun:

well that should do it.

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KillerBun:

Read the howto about what you need to do to the tables.

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KillerBun:

And then you are free.

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PsychoDad:

KillerBun: what tables?

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KillerBun:

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.1

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PsychoDad:

the howto consists of 23 chapters with up to 27 subsections ... hard to find a entry-point

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PsychoDad:

thanks :)

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guitar256:

chapter 1?

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PsychoDad:

guitar256: please, do not feel pressed to help me

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Skif:

I just upgraded to 0.18.1, and it seems if I try to delete a show just after watching it, mythfrontend hangs for a while, and then I lose my connection to mythbackend (both are on the same machine)

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PsychoDad:

and i did everything in http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.1

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Skif:

The only things of note on mythfrontend's stdout are "ReadStringList timeout." and "Connection to backend server lost"

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KillerBun:

PsychoDad, do you know how a sql database works?

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guitar256:

PsychoDad, i don't

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PsychoDad:

KillerBun: just the basics .. and i programmed some sql queries once

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KillerBun:

And you are quite sure that mythtv has access to mysql ?

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Skif:

there's nothing in the mythbackend log that even sniffs like an error

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PsychoDad:

KillerBun: it seems like it does not .. and the howto is kind of silent about it

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KillerBun:

The user who uses mythtv needs to have access to the database.

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PsychoDad:

ah, i found this "database" directory ...

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Skif:

If I restart mythbackend, all is temporarily well. Until this happens again.

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KillerBun:

Either via by boostin the user or by boostin his priviliges in mysql.

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Skif:

Unfortunately, I can't go back to 0.17, because every time I try to access datadirect's channel listings, I get a 500 service error (which is why I upgraded in the first place)

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Skif:

... guess nobody else has any ideas either.

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Skif:

sigh, and 0.17 was so stable, too.

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PsychoDad:

and mythtv-setup hangs ... great :)

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nuongu1:

I had ivtv .3.4x working great when I was running i386

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nuongu1:

I installed x86_64 and now it no worky no more

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moo:

what's the default password that mythtv sets up for mysql when installed

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moo:

'mythtv' doesn't work ;p

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