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| [00:00:00] | Juski: | btw the transcode I did earlier worked okay.. but not on my epia frontend.. I'll go back to not transcoding |
| [00:00:00] | xris: | hfghfh: apt-get dist-upgrade |
| [00:01:00] | hfghfh: | but how well does apt handle the mixed architectures |
| [00:02:00] | xris: | has nothing to do with it. |
| [00:02:00] | xris: | it's all about the packagers |
| [00:02:00] | hfghfh: | i have only yum |
| [00:02:00] | xris: | but beyond that, I don't know. |
| [00:02:00] | xris: | yum update should work, then. |
| [00:03:00] | xris: | to grab from atrpms, etc... dunnno |
| [00:03:00] | xris: | I don't have a 64 bit machine. |
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| [00:03:00] | xris: | just know that there's a ton of trouble getting stuff to work with fedora becuase they've seprated 64 bit libraries out into their own directory structure. |
| [00:03:00] | hfghfh: | have allready tried that yesterday and it does not help, mythfrontend segfaults |
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| [00:04:00] | hfghfh: | yeah i have found that out to, the lib versus lib64 |
| [00:06:00] | xris: | dunno what to say other than posting a bug at atrpms.net |
| [00:06:00] | xris: | or joining the mailing list there and posting about it. |
| [00:08:00] | hfghfh: | maybe i should give up fedora and test gentoo or another distro |
| [00:09:00] | Juski: | you said that last night hfghfh |
| [00:09:00] | hfghfh: | anyway, thanks for the help xris |
| [00:09:00] | xris: | hfghfh: wish I could help more, sorry |
| [00:09:00] | hfghfh: | yes i know but, wanted to give fedora another try |
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| [00:10:00] | xris: | I compile everything by hand with my own specs, too, since I've had way too much trouble with atrpms |
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| [00:10:00] | pyrodex: | Does anyone know if it possible to have two DCT6200s on firewire (Using firewire to change channels on one and change channels/HDTV capture on the other) |
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| [00:12:00] | hfghfh: | what distro are you using xris |
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| [00:14:00] | wasabi_: | What's the easiest way to make GDM autologin and launch myth? |
| [00:15:00] | wasabi_: | basically how do I make gdm use .xsession or something i guess |
| [00:16:00] | Criggie: | I'd uninstall gdm or stop it from starting, then add something to the system's rc.d scripts to make user mythtv run startx, and in ~mythtv/.Xsession would be something like mythtv-frontend --geometry ... |
| [00:17:00] | Criggie: | you don't want gnome crap running if its only for mythtv |
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| [00:19:00] | wasabi_: | Well, I like GDM as it lets me configure different copies of X for differnet things pretty easily, etc. |
| [00:19:00] | wasabi_: | And it keeps X running smartly. |
| [00:19:00] | xris: | hfghfh: fc4 |
| [00:19:00] | xris: | and fc3 |
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| [00:21:00] | hfghfh: | like me then, only difference is that i took the compilcated path and tried out the 64bit version of fc4 |
| [00:21:00] | hfghfh: | on my older fc3 box mythwork flawless |
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| [00:35:00] | xris: | hfghfh: could be... except for the fact that I avoid atrpms as best I can |
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| [00:42:00] | Flimzy: | I just started a new job with the local cable company, and thus will be getting free digital cable by the end of the week, and for an extra $5/mo I can get HD... My question is: a) What type of hardware do I need to use MythTV with digital cable? and b) What type of hardware would I need for HD? and c) Will there be a noticable difference between standard digital cable and HD on a standard TV or computer displays? |
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| [00:44:00] | fryfrog: | digital cable you'd need an external box from your cable co + some capture card |
| [00:45:00] | Flimzy: | any cap card? |
| [00:45:00] | Flimzy: | they'll provide the box |
| [00:45:00] | Flimzy: | and I have an analog cap card |
| [00:45:00] | fryfrog: | HD would (if you are lucky and they broadcast HD in clear) require an HD box |
| [00:45:00] | fryfrog: | erm |
| [00:45:00] | fryfrog: | i mean HD card like air2pc |
| [00:45:00] | Flimzy: | the $5/mo is to lease their HD box, as I understand it |
| [00:45:00] | Flimzy: | HD in clear as opposed to HD encrypted, or somesuch? |
| [00:46:00] | Flimzy: | If I have an HD card, do I not need the HD box from the cable co? |
| [00:46:00] | fryfrog: | in theory |
| [00:46:00] | Flimzy: | I'll hafta ask them how they broadcast their HD then |
| [00:47:00] | Flimzy: | And if I can avoid the HD box rental fee of $5/mo |
| [00:47:00] | fryfrog: | some of the HD boxes can output via firewire |
| [00:47:00] | fryfrog: | and myth can use them too |
| [00:47:00] | Flimzy: | okay |
| [00:47:00] | fryfrog: | well, some of em |
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| [00:47:00] | fryfrog: | i couldn't get it going on mine |
| [00:47:00] | Flimzy: | Are those the ones that require the IR output to change the channel? |
| [00:47:00] | fryfrog: | mine can change channels over the firewire cable |
| [00:47:00] | Flimzy: | okay |
| [00:47:00] | fryfrog: | but you might need a serial cable or ir, i dunno |
| [00:48:00] | fryfrog: | communist-cast? |
| [00:48:00] | Flimzy: | Cox |
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| [00:48:00] | Flimzy: | HD is broadcast in MPEG format, right? So no encoding is necessary on the receiving end? |
| [00:48:00] | fryfrog: | right |
| [00:48:00] | fryfrog: | HD is like a hardware MPEG2 card |
| [00:49:00] | Flimzy: | So, at least in theory, HDTV tuner cards would be cheaper than an analog tuner card with a built-in mpeg encoder? |
| [00:49:00] | fryfrog: | of course, while it captures non-hd it's software encoding |
| [00:49:00] | fryfrog: | not in theory or practice :) |
| [00:49:00] | Flimzy: | Do you know... do they broadcast non-HD channels in MPEG as well? |
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| [00:50:00] | MrProper_: | HDTV tuner cards are also less cpu intensive on the machine because it lacks the need to convert from analogue to digital etc |
| [00:50:00] | Flimzy: | Also, do they make digital tuners that bypass the need for a digital receiver box? |
| [00:51:00] | Flimzy: | non-HD, I mean |
| [00:54:00] | morris2414: | how do I get the backend to start on boot? it just errors me out |
| [00:54:00] | morris2414: | using ubuntu |
| [00:54:00] | Flimzy: | Knowing what the error is is probably key. |
| [00:54:00] | morris2414: | first it would shut down the session immediately and now it just gives me a cannot connect to backend error, meaning that it just didn't start |
| [00:55:00] | morris2414: | i started using linux yesterday also. :) |
| [00:55:00] | Flimzy: | What error does the backend give? |
| [00:55:00] | Flimzy: | well you can't learn any younger... glad you're giving it a try :) |
| [00:55:00] | MrProper_: | Flimzy: I dont know what its like in the states but here in australia with the DVB standard free to air, all you need is a hdtv tuner card + some quad shielded coaxial (without it you usually run into signal/noise issues |
| [00:56:00] | morris2414: | the error comes from the frontend not connecting to the backend because it hasn't started...where should i look to make it auto start by itself? |
| [00:57:00] | Flimzy: | morris2414: In Debian (which Ubuntu is based on): /etc/init.d/myth-backend start |
| [00:57:00] | Flimzy: | These HD cards are more expensive than analog cards with encoders |
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| [00:59:00] | morris2414: | i just edit that file to say "start"? |
| [00:59:00] | Flimzy: | don't edit anything |
| [00:59:00] | Flimzy: | just run that command |
| [00:59:00] | Juski: | CT100 cable is recommended for DVB installs in the UK now, rather than just plan ole coax |
| [00:59:00] | Flimzy: | I don't think DVB is used in the US |
| [01:00:00] | Chutt: | anyone running svn and doesn't mind updating, please lemme know if my ThreadedFileWriter change causes any problems (any problems recording, watching live tv, etc) |
| [01:00:00] | Juski: | that said, I just slung an aerial up in the loft, pointed in the general direction of the transmitter and it works well, so who cares |
| [01:01:00] | morris2414: | /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start |
| [01:01:00] | morris2414: | woops. |
| [01:02:00] | morris2414: | brb |
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| [01:03:00] | Juski: | when did the hyphen appear in mythbackend? |
| [01:03:00] | Flimzy: | Juski, I dunno, but it's there |
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| [01:03:00] | Flimzy: | Juski, that's just the Debian startup script. |
| [01:03:00] | Juski: | ahh right |
| [01:03:00] | morris2414: | that got it working, thanks so much! |
| [01:03:00] | Flimzy: | Juski, doesn't necissarily have any bearing on the names of the actual executables |
| [01:03:00] | morris2414: | tv = on |
| [01:03:00] | Juski: | not as confusing as when I upgraded to 0.18 and couldn't run mythsetup anymore |
| [01:04:00] | Flimzy: | hehe |
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| [01:10:00] | Criggie: | Flimzy: re the cheap cable – after a month you'll be so sick of TV that you won't want to watch it on your own time :) |
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| [01:16:00] | redfox: | if I cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg, should it come with audio? |
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| [01:17:00] | Criggie: | hmmm – depends what card you have redfox |
| [01:17:00] | redfox: | pvr-150... |
| [01:17:00] | Criggie: | if its a PVR then I'd expect yes |
| [01:17:00] | Criggie: | but I may be wrong |
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| [01:17:00] | Criggie: | anyone got one? |
| [01:17:00] | redfox: | ok guess I have some debugging to do |
| [01:17:00] | redfox: | well I don't get sound in myth either |
| [01:18:00] | redfox: | but I'm not sure if it is a settings issue or a kernel issue |
| [01:18:00] | morris2414: | did you extract the audio thing from the hauppauge CD? |
| [01:19:00] | redfox: | no I haven't used the cd... |
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| [01:19:00] | redfox: | morris2414, that wasn't on my guide, do you have a guide I should look at? |
| [01:19:00] | morris2414: | i used abarbaccia.com |
| [01:19:00] | morris2414: | in the IVTV section |
| [01:20:00] | redfox: | ok I'll look it over, thanks |
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| [01:24:00] | kgbudz: | i have a bunch of jobs that failed on the backend |
| [01:25:00] | kgbudz: | i fixed the problem, so how i do get it to restart the jobs |
| [01:25:00] | kgbudz: | commercial detection jobs |
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| [01:26:00] | woodwizzle: | Whenever I try to play a song in mythmusic I get "No useable audio output driver found" Don't dissable OSS support unless you're not running on Linux. SegFault |
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| [01:27:00] | redfox: | woodwizzle, does sound from mythtv work? |
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| [01:30:00] | woodwizzle: | redfox: I dunno, havn't tested that yet. Sound from mythvideo works |
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| [01:30:00] | redfox: | ah... well I had that problem with mythtv |
| [01:30:00] | woodwizzle: | had? did you fix it? |
| [01:30:00] | redfox: | the solution was to change the sound device from /dev/dsp to ALSA:default |
| [01:30:00] | redfox: | or something like that |
| [01:30:00] | woodwizzle: | oh ok, i'll try that |
| [01:30:00] | redfox: | it was in myth settings somewhere |
| [01:31:00] | fatmatt: | can you put ALSA:card1 ? |
| [01:32:00] | redfox: | I'm really not sure fatmatt, sorry |
| [01:32:00] | redfox: | try it out I guess |
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| [02:34:00] | funkyelf: | wow, I just got off the phone w/ my cable company and the girl was like "firewire?...1394?" |
| [02:34:00] | Flimzy: | Who's you cable co? |
| [02:34:00] | funkyelf: | Bright House |
| [02:35:00] | funkyelf: | anyway, after telling her that by not giving me a box with a functional 1394 interface they're not complying with FCC regulations |
| [02:35:00] | funkyelf: | she tried tellin me that they don't have a box to do that so they can't and that they have a window before they have to comply with the regulations |
| [02:35:00] | redfox: | yeah comcast did the same thing to me... but I didn't bother bringing up the fcc regs yet |
| [02:36:00] | funkyelf: | I told her I doubted that and even so the regulation said by April 2004 |
| [02:36:00] | funkyelf: | then I ended it by saying, well I'll just call back later and maybe get someone who knows what I'm even talking about |
| [02:36:00] | funkyelf: | ...so two minutes later the girl calls me back and said that she spoke with her manager and they're going to set up a special order and I'll have my box by Saturday |
| [02:37:00] | redfox: | lol good deal |
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| [02:37:00] | redfox: | maybe I'll try bugging comcast again |
| [02:37:00] | funkyelf: | redfox, do you want the link to the FCC reg? |
| [02:37:00] | redfox: | yeah sure |
| [02:37:00] | redfox: | if you have it handy, I'm sure I can google for it |
| [02:37:00] | funkyelf: | http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/12feb . . . fr76.640.pdf |
| [02:38:00] | funkyelf: | thats the PDF |
| [02:38:00] | redfox: | ok thanks |
| [02:38:00] | funkyelf: | http://www.fcc.gov -> Rules & Regulations -> Code of Federal Regulations Search -> Title 47 Telecommunication Oct. 1, 2004 Oct. 1, 2004 -> 76.640 |
| [02:38:00] | funkyelf: | ... and thats how I got to it from fcc.gov |
| [02:38:00] | redfox: | alright |
| [02:38:00] | redfox: | I tried calling comcast, the lady was like 'go visit your local branch office. maybe they know what you are talking about' |
| [02:39:00] | redfox: | at the branch office, they were like 'wtf?' |
| [02:39:00] | redfox: | so I gave up for now, but I'll have to try again soon |
| [02:39:00] | funkyelf: | mention the FCC and they might get their asses in gear. It's on the 2nd page left column starting with "Effective April 1" |
| [02:40:00] | redfox: | yeah I'll give that a whirl |
| [02:40:00] | redfox: | do you know if all channels are sent over the firewire, or is it just hdtv? |
| [02:40:00] | funkyelf: | I don't know anything about how HDTV is transmitted, but when I had an HDTV I tried getting the HD channels using the built in tuner and I wasn't able to |
| [02:40:00] | redfox: | yeah that isn't surprising |
| [02:40:00] | funkyelf: | I think it is only HD channels, and it may only be the local HD channels |
| [02:41:00] | redfox: | that is what I was thinking... I have heard some people get hbo, etc over firewire though |
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| [02:41:00] | redfox: | but they might be encrypting that by now |
| [02:42:00] | funkyelf: | yeah, like I said, I wasn't able to get local broadcasts unencrypted using my TV's HD Tuner, so I'm not sure what I'll be able to get with this |
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| [02:43:00] | redline--: | anyone got any leads on good 50+ inch tv's? 1k – 1500 ? |
| [02:43:00] | redfox: | well good luck, let me know how well it works for you |
| [02:43:00] | funkyelf: | I will...i'm sure I'll be stopping in this channel when I hook it up to my (yet to be built) MythTV box and it doesn't work |
| [02:44:00] | redfox: | hah yeah I'm still getting mine all set up too |
| [02:44:00] | funkyelf: | I don't have a case yet, I got everything else today, but case shipped from a different warehouse |
| [02:44:00] | redfox: | I got a shuttle case from newegg... I really like it |
| [02:45:00] | redfox: | my only complaint is the video card fan is too noisy |
| [02:45:00] | funkyelf: | who makes that? |
| [02:45:00] | funkyelf: | which card? |
| [02:45:00] | redfox: | nvidia geforce 6600 gt |
| [02:45:00] | redfox: | http://us.shuttle.com/ |
| [02:45:00] | redfox: | is the case |
| [02:45:00] | funkyelf: | yeah...I got a fanless Nvidia FX5200 because thats what everyone said was just enough for myth and doesn't have a fan |
| [02:46:00] | redfox: | yeah I should have gone that route, but I might use this for more than myth |
| [02:46:00] | funkyelf: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133158 |
| [02:46:00] | funkyelf: | thats the case I'll be getting tomorrow or the next day |
| [02:47:00] | redfox: | ah nice |
| [02:47:00] | redfox: | what capture card are you using? |
| [02:47:00] | funkyelf: | Yeah, I was gonna dual boot into windows and play games, but someone talked me out of that saying that I'll want mythtv running 24/7 so that if I'm away from the house I can log into myth and schedule a recording |
| [02:47:00] | redfox: | true |
| [02:48:00] | funkyelf: | the 500, the one w/ dual tuners / encoders |
| [02:48:00] | redfox: | do you have it set up yet? |
| [02:48:00] | funkyelf: | nope...waiting for the case |
| [02:48:00] | redfox: | ah ok |
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| [02:48:00] | redfox: | can anyone confirm if 'mplayer /dev/video0' should have audio with it? |
| [02:48:00] | funkyelf: | it is food time now....ttyl |
| [02:49:00] | redfox: | see ya |
| [02:53:00] | redline--: | red it should if sound is setup right |
| [02:54:00] | redfox: | ok thanks, I tried copying those drivers but didn't seem to help yet |
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| [03:18:00] | orogor: | hi |
| [03:30:00] | pyrodex: | hmmm does anyone know if the Theater 550 PRO works in linux/mythtv? |
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| [04:00:00] | kslater: | what's the command line utility that will look at av files and tell you the type? |
| [04:02:00] | dev-: | mplayer? |
| [04:04:00] | kslater: | I thought there was a util that wouldn't try to play the file, but just examine it (headers?) for type |
| [04:04:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | "file" |
| [04:05:00] | geoff_: | does anyone know of an option to turn off the preview images in mythweb? |
| [04:05:00] | kslater: | say you have some .nuv's created by pvr250, some are transcoded to mpeg4 some are still mpeg2 |
| [04:07:00] | Agrajag-: | nuvinfo |
| [04:07:00] | Agrajag-: | (comes with nuvexport) |
| [04:07:00] | Agrajag-: | file will tell you that too |
| [04:08:00] | Agrajag-: | nuvinfo gives you some more info |
| [04:10:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | geoff_: look for show_recorded_pixmaps in the config file for the theme you're using in mythweb/config/theme*php |
| [04:10:00] | xris: | geoff_: pretty sure it's right there in the config file |
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| [04:11:00] | ** xris really needs to clean up that whole pile of crap ** | |
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| [04:15:00] | kslater: | xris: what's the min version of lve I'd need for nuvexport? |
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| [04:28:00] | Chutt: | whee. |
| [04:29:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: bit excited there |
| [04:29:00] | Chutt: | oh yeah |
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| [04:34:00] | SqWaw: | can I get some ivtv help? I do "cat /dev/video0 > my.mpg" then ctrl+c after a bit and it gives me a 0byte file. |
| [04:34:00] | SqWaw: | any ideas? |
| [04:34:00] | Chutt: | ask the ivtv folk? |
| [04:34:00] | SqWaw: | they are not active :( |
| [04:35:00] | Chutt: | wait? |
| [04:35:00] | Chutt: | i don't see any messages from you on the ivtv mailing list |
| [04:35:00] | SqWaw: | someone told me #ivtv on here |
| [04:35:00] | SqWaw: | but i went there an no one |
| [04:35:00] | SqWaw: | no one is there* |
| [04:36:00] | Chutt: | someone told you wrong. |
| [04:39:00] | SqWaw: | i guess |
| [04:39:00] | SqWaw: | i'll try to figure out that mail list thing... |
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| [04:41:00] | Cardoe: | and he quits |
| [04:41:00] | Cardoe: | I was gonna help him |
| [04:41:00] | xris: | heh |
| [04:42:00] | Chutt: | sorry :p |
| [04:42:00] | xris: | yeah, annoying when people do that |
| [04:42:00] | xris: | Chutt: you see I got the preview pixmap thing fixed? |
| [04:42:00] | Chutt: | i get annoyed at people who think that mythtv is the ivtv project |
| [04:42:00] | N-Tropy: | I wrote a script to import stuff i removed from my myth box when i needed space and made 1 mistake... all my recordid's for imported stuff are 0... anyone know a quick way fro me to fix that ? |
| [04:42:00] | Chutt: | xris, yeah, thanks |
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| [04:42:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: did you ever merge the DB code? |
| [04:42:00] | xris: | np. was sending the file info, but was sending the "wrong" start/end time |
| [04:42:00] | Cardoe: | did he ever clean it up enough? |
| [04:42:00] | Chutt: | hell no |
| [04:43:00] | Chutt: | i haven't bothered looking at it |
| [04:43:00] | Cardoe: | sad |
| [04:43:00] | Cardoe: | I've been so freaking busy with modular X |
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| [04:43:00] | Cardoe: | I'm gonna be getting the PVR-350 driver merged into upstream |
| [04:43:00] | Chutt: | too busy with work |
| [04:43:00] | Cardoe: | Did you know that X is a WHORE and a HALF |
| [04:43:00] | jhoke: | Good evenin' |
| [04:43:00] | Cardoe: | but lemme tell you... modular is pretty nice |
| [04:43:00] | Cardoe: | it runs a lot leaner on my machines |
| [04:44:00] | Cardoe: | and for some reason.. |
| [04:44:00] | Chutt: | <shrug> |
| [04:44:00] | Chutt: | i've never really cared about installed size |
| [04:44:00] | Cardoe: | the latest Myth snapshot I compiled.. |
| [04:44:00] | Cardoe: | It's not installed size |
| [04:45:00] | Cardoe: | it's memory space |
| [04:45:00] | Cardoe: | and CPU overhead. |
| [04:45:00] | jhoke: | Wanted to thank everyone who has helped me over the past couple of days ... been GREAT :) |
| [04:45:00] | Cardoe: | it's lower. |
| [04:45:00] | Chutt: | again, <shrug> |
| [04:45:00] | Chutt: | it's been years since i've ran a machine where X mattered =) |
| [04:46:00] | xris: | you crazy mac users... |
| [04:46:00] | jhoke: | LOL |
| [04:47:00] | ** xris is surrounded by mac users. ** | |
| [04:47:00] | xris: | (better than being surrounded by windows users, I guess) |
| [04:47:00] | jhoke: | True ;) |
| [04:47:00] | xris: | my wife just got an ibook. I'm mildly jealous. |
| [04:47:00] | jhoke: | How about Mac Users controlling a solaris LDAP farm while working on getting myth working right :) |
| [04:48:00] | jhoke: | I *should* be working on some metadirectory stuff, but I can't get work done while playing with myth LOL |
| [04:48:00] | xris: | heh |
| [04:49:00] | xris: | I can't get work done, period. |
| [04:49:00] | jhoke: | heh |
| [04:49:00] | Cardoe: | grrr |
| [04:49:00] | Cardoe: | This is odd |
| [04:49:00] | jhoke: | I've been asking a number of dumb questions this week.. anyone mind one more? |
| [04:49:00] | N-Tropy: | anyone know what recordid in recorded should be ? |
| [04:49:00] | xris: | jhoke: you just used it up. |
| [04:49:00] | Cardoe: | All my frontends but the backend/frontend are working |
| [04:49:00] | jhoke: | :-P |
| [04:50:00] | xris: | N-Tropy: um, the id of the song? |
| [04:50:00] | xris: | or is that the pointer to the recording profile? |
| [04:50:00] | jhoke: | I would cry, but that would literally be crying into my beer.... so I will ask anyway |
| [04:50:00] | N-Tropy: | xris: myth doesn't like that its 0. I want to set it to what it should be. then modify my export/import scripts. |
| [04:51:00] | jhoke: | I currently have myth working fairly well with my (dying) pvr-250 ...I have a 150 on its way ... any gotchas with adding it as the primary card and leaving the 250 in there for the time being? |
| [04:52:00] | xris: | N-Tropy: seems to join with a whole bunch of different tables. |
| [04:52:00] | xris: | select * from recordedmatch; |
| [04:52:00] | Chutt: | turns out the bug i've been chasing for the past 4 days is a hardware issue |
| [04:52:00] | xris: | actually... select * from record; |
| [04:52:00] | xris: | Chutt: gotta love (hate) it when that happems |
| [04:52:00] | redfox: | Arg! why doesn't sound work with my pvr-150? |
| [04:52:00] | xris: | N-Tropy: my guess is that it links to a specific entry in the record table. |
| [04:52:00] | jhoke: | Chutt, story of my life |
| [04:53:00] | Chutt: | development boards suck |
| [04:53:00] | xris: | redfox: um, driver version? |
| [04:53:00] | Chutt: | apparently a couple traces are a bit too long |
| [04:53:00] | xris: | no audio encoder firmware? |
| [04:53:00] | Chutt: | or something |
| [04:53:00] | xris: | Chutt: ouch. |
| [04:53:00] | redfox: | xris, I just downloaded firmware from hauppauge, before that i was using the stuff that came with 0.3.9 |
| [04:53:00] | xris: | um, ivtv doesn't come with firmware |
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| [04:54:00] | seme: | hi guys |
| [04:54:00] | redfox: | hrm... well I had video before copying anything to /lib/modules |
| [04:54:00] | xris: | redfox: for the 150, pretty sure that you need encoder, decoder and audio firmware files. |
| [04:54:00] | seme: | can anyone tell me how I can create teh channels.conf file? the documentation says to run atscscan atsc/us-NTSC-center-frequencies-8VSB |
| [04:54:00] | seme: | but I can't find the us-NTSC-center-freequencies-8VSB file |
| [04:55:00] | redfox: | from dmesg, I get this: |
| [04:55:00] | redfox: | ivtv: Encoder revision: 0x02050032 |
| [04:55:00] | redfox: | ivtv: Encoder Firmware may be buggy, use version 0x02040011 |
| [04:55:00] | redfox: | that is after cx25840 loads the audio firmware |
| [04:56:00] | redfox: | but it didn't work with 02040011 either |
| [04:56:00] | Chutt: | that's not the audio firmware. |
| [04:57:00] | redfox: | Chutt, anything I should look for in dmesg? |
| [04:57:00] | xris: | redfox: like I said. encoder, decoder AND audio |
| [04:57:00] | Chutt: | the audio firmware loading |
| [04:57:00] | redfox: | cx25840: loading /lib/modules/HcwMakoA.ROM |
| [04:57:00] | xris: | redfox: /lib/modules/HcwMakoA.ROM |
| [04:57:00] | redfox: | I do have that file... |
| [04:58:00] | redfox: | xris, I don't think I have anything for decoder drivers... is that necessary? The 150 doesn't do hardware decoding |
| [04:59:00] | xris: | redfox: good point. dunno. I have it installed just in case, I guess. |
| [04:59:00] | redfox: | hmm maybe I'll give that a whirl |
| [04:59:00] | redfox: | I think all the i2c modules are loaded, so I assume that's not the problem |
| [05:00:00] | redfox: | are there any other kernel settings that could interfere with sound from the card? |
| [05:00:00] | geoff_: | did you load eeprom before tveeprom? |
| [05:00:00] | geoff_: | that caused no sound for me |
| [05:00:00] | redfox: | geoff_, I am letting the modprobe ivtv load all the other modules... |
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| [05:00:00] | redfox: | I see tveeprom in lsmod, but not eeprom |
| [05:01:00] | jhoke: | I had the problem with eeprom loading before tveeprom ... I think it was lm_sensors hitting it ... not sure... but it screwed me up too |
| [05:01:00] | geoff_: | redfox: Also, I installed a fiewire card the night before last, witht the module loaded I get no sound |
| [05:01:00] | redfox: | so do I need eeprom loaded? |
| [05:01:00] | geoff_: | no |
| [05:01:00] | geoff_: | it conflicts |
| [05:01:00] | redfox: | oh ok good |
| [05:02:00] | jhoke: | geoff: Your firewire card module killed your sound? Which card out of curiosity (firewire and pvr) |
| [05:02:00] | geoff_: | pvr 500 |
| [05:02:00] | geoff_: | aand a generic firwire/usb2 card |
| [05:02:00] | geoff_: | it was really strange |
| [05:03:00] | geoff_: | as soon as I unloaded the mods, saound came baclk |
| [05:03:00] | jhoke: | good to know... I have a 250 working now, but I am adding a 150 card this weekend ... 500 and 150 are same right? |
| [05:04:00] | redfox: | jhoke, yeah that is what I've read |
| [05:04:00] | xris: | jhoke: sort of. |
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| [05:04:00] | xris: | 150 and 150 are not always the same |
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| [05:04:00] | xris: | but with that in consideration, 500 == 2 x 150 |
| [05:04:00] | jhoke: | xris: true ... read that tonight... keeping fingers x'd that I got one that works ;) |
| [05:05:00] | geoff_: | I have had sound issues on and off with my 500 |
| [05:05:00] | jhoke: | and that I can figure out how to get it working with the 250 in the box as well LOL |
| [05:05:00] | geoff_: | cold reboot usually fixes them |
| [05:05:00] | jhoke: | geoff: overheating? |
| [05:05:00] | geoff_: | I don't think so |
| [05:05:00] | geoff_: | seems pretty random |
| [05:06:00] | geoff_: | there is not a lot oh heat in this box either |
| [05:06:00] | jhoke: | geoff: friend had similar issues with a 350 overheating on him killing sound ... probably completely different issue... |
| [05:06:00] | geoff_: | hmmm, good to know |
| [05:06:00] | geoff_: | I'll keep an eye on temp |
| [05:07:00] | jhoke: | yeah... he'd power down and wait a few... mangled his head for a while till he went to reseat the card and he said it was an "Oh shit" moment |
| [05:07:00] | geoff_: | heh |
| [05:07:00] | geoff_: | I originally thought it was tied to a specivic ivtv versionn |
| [05:08:00] | geoff_: | but after swapping all around still sometimes happens |
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| [05:10:00] | geoff_: | jhoke: sorry, can't pm cause I'm not registered |
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| [05:10:00] | jhoke: | geo: n/p |
| [05:10:00] | KristinG: | hi, anyone able to try to help with a pvr-250 issue? |
| [05:10:00] | jhoke: | just didnt wanna clutter up the room |
| [05:11:00] | mchou: | geoff_: lspci on the firewire card pls? |
| [05:12:00] | geoff_: | the following are all the same card |
| [05:12:00] | geoff_: | 0000:03:08.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 41) |
| [05:12:00] | geoff_: | 0000:03:08.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 41) |
| [05:12:00] | geoff_: | 0000:03:08.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 02) |
| [05:12:00] | geoff_: | 0000:03:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 46) |
| [05:12:00] | mchou: | haha, via, no wonder |
| [05:12:00] | geoff_: | :P |
| [05:12:00] | mchou: | you might need a kernel patch |
| [05:12:00] | geoff_: | it was free |
| [05:12:00] | KristinG: | background: gentoo, 2.6.13 kernel, Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) for my card |
| [05:12:00] | mchou: | free is good |
| [05:13:00] | geoff_: | and since i recently went from 1 pci slot to 5, I thought I would stick some extra cards in there |
| [05:13:00] | jhoke: | Kristin: what problem are you having? |
| [05:13:00] | mchou: | geoff_: look for funky firewire messages in your log when you load the fw modules...... |
| [05:13:00] | KristinG: | i cannot get video in via the svideo port |
| [05:13:00] | KristinG: | nor audio via the line in |
| [05:14:00] | mchou: | KristinG: ivtvctl -a in pastebin.com pls |
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| [05:14:00] | geoff_: | mchou: nothing out of the ordinary |
| [05:14:00] | mchou: | geoff_: you sure?? |
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| [05:15:00] | mchou: | it doesnt say something like packet size reset to 256 or some such thing? |
| [05:15:00] | mchou: | (might not be 256) |
| [05:16:00] | geoff_: | mchou:no, it shares an irq with the sound card, but that shouldn't change pvr |
| [05:16:00] | KristinG: | 23499 |
| [05:18:00] | mchou: | KristinG: link to the full thing pls |
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| [05:19:00] | geoff_: | mchou: could also have been the usb2 on the same card, I unloaded both at the same time |
| [05:19:00] | KristinG: | http://pastebin.ca/23499 |
| [05:19:00] | geoff_: | but still no errors |
| [05:19:00] | mchou: | KristinG: heh, input is set to 4 (that's TVTuner) |
| [05:20:00] | mchou: | KristinG: line 110 and 121 |
| [05:20:00] | KristinG: | i've tried all 10 settings |
| [05:20:00] | KristinG: | 0 – 9 |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | KristinG: then try a different version of ivtv |
| [05:21:00] | KristinG: | dmesg |
| [05:21:00] | KristinG: | oops |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | some versions are more borked than others |
| [05:21:00] | KristinG: | ivtv: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found! |
| [05:21:00] | KristinG: | ivtv: i2c client addr: 0x40 not found! |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | ooh, that's not good |
| [05:22:00] | jhoke: | eek! |
| [05:22:00] | mchou: | KristinG: what ver of ivtv you using? |
| [05:23:00] | KristinG: | 0.2.0_rc3-r5 |
| [05:24:00] | jhoke: | Does anyone have an example modprobe.conf file for a box with a 150 and 250 in the same machine? I currently have it setup for just the 250 and wouldllike to know what I need to modify to have both if anything. I am running ATRpms ivtv package 0.3.8–97 |
| [05:24:00] | mchou: | KristinG: give 0.2.0-rc3j a shot |
| [05:24:00] | KristinG: | ok |
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| [05:25:00] | xris: | clear |
| [05:25:00] | xris: | oops |
| [05:28:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [05:28:00] | Chutt: | something's busted |
| [05:28:00] | Chutt: | i can only start live tv once per backend start |
| [05:28:00] | KristinG: | hmm |
| [05:29:00] | KristinG: | i cannot emerge it |
| [05:29:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [05:29:00] | mchou: | screw emerge |
| [05:29:00] | redfox: | KristinG, yeah you have to do it manually |
| [05:30:00] | KristinG: | link to source? |
| [05:30:00] | redfox: | ivtv.tv |
| [05:30:00] | Chutt: | www.ivtvdriver.org |
| [05:30:00] | Chutt: | none of that ivtv.tv crap |
| [05:31:00] | mchou: | yeah, who signed up that domain? :) |
| [05:31:00] | redfox: | haha |
| [05:31:00] | redfox: | maybe iv.tv would be cool? |
| [05:31:00] | mchou: | I thought .tv domain was more expensive usually |
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| [05:31:00] | MrProper_: | who the hell in their right mind would use .tv? |
| [05:31:00] | KristinG: | i see version 0.3.8 was released? |
| [05:32:00] | redfox: | I'm using 0.3.9... |
| [05:32:00] | mchou: | MrProper_: exactly :) |
| [05:32:00] | MrProper_: | icann suck a$$ |
| [05:32:00] | DarkBeer: | lircrc question: volume down is the [ key, and volume up is the ] key ? |
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| [05:33:00] | KristinG: | so 0.2.0-rc3j or 0.3.8? |
| [05:33:00] | mchou: | KristinG: your choice |
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| [05:34:00] | mchou: | If one doesnt work then try the other :) |
| [05:35:00] | jhoke: | Kristin, I am running 0.3.8 with a 250 w/out any problems right now |
| [05:35:00] | jhoke: | although not over s-video |
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| [05:38:00] | KristinG: | ok, i compiled it, now what do i do? |
| [05:39:00] | redfox: | KristinG, you ran make; make install ? |
| [05:41:00] | KristinG: | yes |
| [05:41:00] | mchou: | ooh, house in on tonight |
| [05:41:00] | mchou: | is* |
| [05:41:00] | redfox: | ok you should be ready to go then |
| [05:41:00] | redfox: | test it like you were before... probably mplayer /dev/video0 |
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| [05:42:00] | KristinG: | http://pastebin.ca/23500 |
| [05:42:00] | KristinG: | dmesg output |
| [05:42:00] | mchou: | that looks good |
| [05:43:00] | redfox: | hey mchou, what is the bttv module for? Do I need it for my pvr150? |
| [05:44:00] | redfox: | KristinG, what card are you using again? My 150 sets the type to 47 |
| [05:44:00] | redfox: | not 2 |
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| [05:44:00] | KristinG: | 250 |
| [05:44:00] | redfox: | if you still have problems, you might make sure that is the right type |
| [05:44:00] | KristinG: | still get static |
| [05:45:00] | mchou: | static means it's working :) |
| [05:45:00] | dopester: | yawn |
| [05:45:00] | mchou: | otherwise you just get some color like green or blue |
| [05:46:00] | KristinG: | i've always had static :p |
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| [05:46:00] | KristinG: | audio is white noise |
| [05:47:00] | djperegrine: | Is there a way to stream video via 802.11b wifi ? |
| [05:48:00] | KristinG: | interesting. i only get white noise on input 7 |
| [05:50:00] | KristinG: | i hate to have to buy a hd3000 card right now :( |
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| [05:57:00] | KristinG: | well thanks anyway for the help |
| [05:58:00] | geoff_: | djperegrine: if the bitrate is low enough |
| [05:59:00] | djperegrine: | yea now it just lags |
| [05:59:00] | djperegrine: | is there a way to view it and lower the streaming bitrate? |
| [05:59:00] | geoff_: | I do it but can't ff or anything |
| [05:59:00] | geoff_: | no |
| [05:59:00] | jhoke: | dj: i never got good throughput over 11b ... 11g is barely passible :( |
| [05:59:00] | djperegrine: | oh |
| [05:59:00] | djperegrine: | yea |
| [05:59:00] | geoff_: | with perfect signal it works |
| [06:00:00] | geoff_: | when 800mb = 1 hr |
| [06:00:00] | djperegrine: | however, I can stream movies off the internet |
| [06:00:00] | djperegrine: | why not over lan? |
| [06:00:00] | jhoke: | geoff: perfect signal and you are 2' away ;) |
| [06:00:00] | geoff_: | within 15 |
| [06:00:00] | geoff_: | I have an access point in my floor |
| [06:00:00] | jhoke: | dj: different codecs, bitrates, etc |
| [06:00:00] | djperegrine: | yea |
| [06:00:00] | geoff_: | two for 700 sqr feet :P |
| [06:01:00] | geoff_: | I haave g on my laptop, but my gf had b |
| [06:01:00] | jhoke: | geoff: nice :) I am having a new house built prerun wiht cat6 ... cant wait to move and have the ability to run gigabit ether in every room :) |
| [06:01:00] | geoff_: | so she always wants to use mine |
| [06:01:00] | geoff_: | jhoke: no kidding |
| [06:02:00] | geoff_: | you should check out that d-link gaming router |
| [06:02:00] | djperegrine: | I used to have that |
| [06:02:00] | geoff_: | has gigabit |
| [06:02:00] | djperegrine: | my whole house was wired |
| [06:02:00] | djperegrine: | but we moved ;( |
| [06:02:00] | geoff_: | g is so cheap, its not worth the frustration to stick with b |
| [06:03:00] | geoff_: | I think I would go for a 108 card if I used windows |
| [06:03:00] | djperegrine: | my laptop has g |
| [06:03:00] | djperegrine: | but my router is b |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | that's the first thing to do prior to moving to a new house,, replace old eiring and install Cat 5–6 |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | wiring* |
| [06:04:00] | jhoke: | mchou .. exactly, and my builder was very good about it.... I will have 2 cat 6 drops in most rooms, but each will have one... and then each will also have a cat3/pots run for telco |
| [06:04:00] | jhoke: | (until I switch over to a voip service...) |
| [06:04:00] | mchou: | jhoke: yeah, same setup in my house. |
| [06:04:00] | geoff_: | dj: http://www.ecost.com/ecost/ecsplash/shop/detail~dpno~398689.asp |
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| [06:04:00] | geoff_: | $24.00 |
| [06:04:00] | geoff_: | g router |
| [06:04:00] | mchou: | 2 coax connectors in every room too |
| [06:05:00] | geoff_: | its worth the trouble |
| [06:05:00] | geoff_: | you get better range too |
| [06:05:00] | jhoke: | I will have 2 in the "media" rooms, and one in each bedroom and the kitchen... and a couple in the basement as well (cable/coax) |
| [06:06:00] | jhoke: | the only thing I am not pre-running is speaker wire... not sure how I will be setting up the theater so I will wait to work that out then run the wiring for speakers |
| [06:06:00] | djperegrine: | I need a reiciever to |
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| [06:07:00] | geoff_: | jhoke: saw some sweet logitec wireless theatre speakers recently |
| [06:07:00] | jhoke: | once I get my myth setup the way I want it I have to get some X10 stuff for the new house ready... wife is being quite nice for all my gadgets ... and starting to get Wife ANNOYANCE Factor down and wife ACCEPTANCE factor up :) |
| [06:07:00] | jhoke: | geoff... I am looking at Bose probably |
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| [06:08:00] | Chutt: | wow, bose has great speakers! |
| [06:08:00] | jhoke: | and wireless speakers eerk me... sometimes I like copper :) |
| [06:09:00] | geoff_: | I've never tried them |
| [06:09:00] | jhoke: | I have an old set of acousticmaster 15's that serve me well now |
| [06:09:00] | geoff_: | but they looked cool |
| [06:09:00] | jhoke: | tiny, loud, and most importantly *clear* |
| [06:09:00] | geoff_: | the first thing I am going to upgrade when I have $$ is the monitor I am using... |
| [06:10:00] | geoff_: | 17 inch crt |
| [06:10:00] | geoff_: | sucks as a tv |
| [06:10:00] | geoff_: | but does the job |
| [06:10:00] | dopester: | 52" dlp rocks as a tv |
| [06:10:00] | Chutt: | 52" is way too small |
| [06:10:00] | geoff_: | I bet |
| [06:10:00] | Chutt: | how can you live with such a tiny tv? |
| [06:10:00] | jhoke: | Once I move I am going to have to put more toys on hold for a while, so tryingto get them all good to go then move in and install ... then go into $ saving mode |
| [06:10:00] | geoff_: | anyone tried data projectors? Are they too slow for tv? |
| [06:11:00] | redfox: | geoff_, my uncle has one that is pretty nice |
| [06:11:00] | redfox: | he paid quite a bit for it though |
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| [06:11:00] | redfox: | I think he got it from Dell |
| [06:11:00] | jhoke: | my 17" LCD is my tv for myth right now... suck |
| [06:11:00] | geoff_: | yeah, I think I would need a bright one |
| [06:11:00] | geoff_: | just worried about the lcd motion effect... |
| [06:11:00] | redfox: | yeah that is important, unless it is in a dark room |
| [06:11:00] | Ryushin: | Anyone heard of why a hd-3000 card would have the sound stutter and cause the stutter in the video as well? It's not cpu bound. Only using 24% of the cpu. |
| [06:11:00] | redfox: | motion effect is pretty minimal on a recent projector |
| [06:12:00] | geoff_: | cool |
| [06:12:00] | geoff_: | they are a little spendy, but you can make the tv any size you want |
| [06:12:00] | redfox: | at least, I didn't notice any on his... |
| [06:12:00] | jhoke: | my boss uses an epson proj I think, its not perfect, but not bad either ;) |
| [06:12:00] | redfox: | also he has a permanent screen, that really helps |
| [06:13:00] | geoff_: | mac mini and a projector would make an awesome frontend imo |
| [06:13:00] | jhoke: | I *heart* my mini but it is earmarked for my car... :) |
| [06:13:00] | geoff_: | I wish they were fast enough for hd |
| [06:13:00] | Chutt: | except that the mini's way too slow to do anything interesting on |
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| [06:13:00] | redfox: | well bedtime... hopefully I can get audio working tomorrow |
| [06:14:00] | Chutt: | but, hey, it's a good way for apple to sell all their old crappy tech and make people think it's new again |
| [06:14:00] | jhoke: | Chutt, have you seen any of the mac mini car mods? Make magazine had a decent one in a VW |
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| [06:14:00] | geoff_: | 800mhz is all you need for sd on a mac in myth |
| [06:14:00] | Chutt: | why would you put a mini in the car? |
| [06:14:00] | Chutt: | you could accomplish exactly the same thing with a hell of a lot less computer |
| [06:14:00] | jhoke: | Chutt, because I can, and the mini was free |
| [06:15:00] | geoff_: | Chutt: Not a fan of the mini I take it? |
| [06:15:00] | Chutt: | and it's not like it'll do decent nav stuff, so all you're going to use it for is media |
| [06:15:00] | jhoke: | that is true... its one downside ... |
| [06:16:00] | jhoke: | the mini was a marketing device, not a technology one as well |
| [06:16:00] | jhoke: | but... its a project to play with when I am tired of futzing with Myth ;) |
| [06:16:00] | Chutt: | all it is is an old ibook in a different case, without a display |
| [06:17:00] | Chutt: | ok |
| [06:17:00] | Chutt: | people get to vote: |
| [06:17:00] | jhoke: | all it *really* is ... a way to try and get Windoze users to switch to mac w/out needing to buy a whole imac |
| [06:17:00] | jhoke: | :) |
| [06:18:00] | Chutt: | a) slightly faster channel changes with pvr-XXX cards, but the picture starts out shitty |
| [06:18:00] | Chutt: | b) current speed channel changes |
| [06:18:00] | djperegrine: | I have another question, If I have cowboy bebop recorded, is it possible I could turn on closed captioning and turn on japenese ? |
| [06:18:00] | geoff_: | jhoke: just get a 40 gb iPod w/ no screen and leave it in the glove box |
| [06:18:00] | geoff_: | Chutt: can I ask some dev questions while I have you? |
| [06:18:00] | jhoke: | Chutt: b |
| [06:18:00] | Chutt: | with the difference in speed being the entire length of the crappy video section |
| [06:18:00] | jhoke: | (depending on the length of crappiness_ |
| [06:18:00] | Chutt: | geoff, no |
| [06:19:00] | Chutt: | jhoke, half second |
| [06:19:00] | jhoke: | Chutt: switch vote to (A) |
| [06:19:00] | Chutt: | up to one half second faster, but that's just because it starts mid-gop, and not on a full frame |
| [06:19:00] | geoff_: | :'( |
| [06:19:00] | jhoke: | 1/2 sec faster and 1/2 sec of shitty video? good tradeoff |
| [06:19:00] | Chutt: | not really |
| [06:19:00] | Chutt: | it's not viewable |
| [06:20:00] | jhoke: | still... go with "A" |
| [06:21:00] | Chutt: | hrm |
| [06:21:00] | Chutt: | i'm thinking i'll just keep it as is |
| [06:21:00] | geoff_: | c) forget channel change speed and make osd fast so it doesn't stutter while I browse chans |
| [06:21:00] | geoff_: | no need to flip |
| [06:21:00] | jhoke: | LOL |
| [06:21:00] | geoff_: | just find what you want |
| [06:21:00] | Chutt: | the osd's fine. |
| [06:21:00] | geoff_: | if you have a fast machine |
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| [06:22:00] | Chutt: | it's only really slow at hd res on marginal machines |
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| [06:22:00] | geoff_: | slow on sd on a marginal machine |
| [06:22:00] | Chutt: | or machines without mmx |
| [06:22:00] | geoff_: | with mmx |
| [06:22:00] | geoff_: | not to argue the poinnt |
| [06:22:00] | Chutt: | and i don't really give a damn about people that can't buy real hardware |
| [06:22:00] | geoff_: | but I have never had it work righ |
| [06:22:00] | geoff_: | t |
| [06:22:00] | geoff_: | on a 1.6ghz |
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| [06:23:00] | Chutt: | uh, then you have something else wrong |
| [06:23:00] | Chutt: | the osd sure isn't causing any problems |
| [06:23:00] | geoff_: | just pointing out the third option |
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| [06:23:00] | Chutt: | how's that an option? |
| [06:23:00] | geoff_: | because then you don't haave to flip each chan |
| [06:24:00] | jhoke: | er... 3rd option, open beer drink liberally |
| [06:24:00] | geoff_: | lolo |
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| [06:24:00] | Chutt: | who the fuck said anything about flipping channels? |
| [06:24:00] | geoff_: | go outside |
| [06:24:00] | geoff_: | channel chaange? |
| [06:24:00] | geoff_: | I thought that was implied |
| [06:24:00] | Chutt: | uh, no. |
| [06:24:00] | geoff_: | ? |
| [06:24:00] | geoff_: | then wtf is the point of speeding up channel change? |
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| [06:25:00] | Chutt: | so they're faster when you do want to change them? |
| [06:25:00] | geoff_: | I see your point |
| [06:25:00] | jhoke: | like I said... option 3... open beer .... |
| [06:25:00] | geoff_: | You mean it is too slow to change in browse mode? |
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| [06:26:00] | jhoke: | (its being that kind of night @ work this evening...) |
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| [06:27:00] | geoff_: | if it matters, I vote for b) |
| [06:27:00] | geoff_: | I don't watch live enough to care much though |
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| [06:28:00] | djperegrine: | does DVB have regular channels? like fox , cnn etc? |
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| [06:31:00] | geoff_: | dj: I thik so |
| [06:32:00] | geoff_: | aat least the broadcast ones |
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| [06:32:00] | djperegrine: | heh |
| [06:33:00] | djperegrine: | maybe I will get that shit |
| [06:33:00] | geoff_: | I always wondered if you can use it with cable |
| [06:33:00] | djperegrine: | yea |
| [06:33:00] | djperegrine: | was thinking same thing |
| [06:33:00] | geoff_: | never had time to figure it out though |
| [06:33:00] | djperegrine: | yea, I got a PVR-150 card |
| [06:33:00] | djperegrine: | I think its all over-air though |
| [06:35:00] | geoff_: | I think I would try the firewire captue if I was going to upgrade at all |
| [06:35:00] | geoff_: | but as Chutt pointed out, I can only afford shitty hardware |
| [06:35:00] | geoff_: | so not anytime soon |
| [06:36:00] | djperegrine: | lol |
| [06:36:00] | djperegrine: | well for like 60 bucks you can get a DVB PCI card |
| [06:36:00] | geoff_: | but I need a new cpu to decode |
| [06:36:00] | geoff_: | ;) |
| [06:36:00] | djperegrine: | oh |
| [06:37:00] | djperegrine: | decode? |
| [06:37:00] | geoff_: | play |
| [06:37:00] | Agrajag-: | you need dvb-c for cable dvb. dvb-t for ota. dvb-s for satellite. |
| [06:37:00] | djperegrine: | its all mpeg-2 there is nothing to decode |
| [06:37:00] | djperegrine: | so If I get cable I can use dvb-c ? |
| [06:37:00] | geoff_: | yes, but to playback, you need good hardware |
| [06:37:00] | djperegrine: | oh |
| [06:37:00] | geoff_: | Agrajag: does it matter who you have for cable |
| [06:38:00] | djperegrine: | yea? |
| [06:38:00] | geoff_: | and do you need special service? |
| [06:38:00] | Agrajag-: | no idea, im not in the us, i only know about .au dvb stuff |
| [06:38:00] | geoff_: | shucks |
| [06:38:00] | Chutt: | there is no dvb in the us. |
| [06:38:00] | djperegrine: | Ohh |
| [06:38:00] | djperegrine: | got it :P |
| [06:38:00] | geoff_: | Chutt: ASTC? |
| [06:38:00] | djperegrine: | that make senses :P |
| [06:38:00] | Chutt: | is not dvb. |
| [06:38:00] | geoff_: | is it similar? |
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| [06:38:00] | Chutt: | that's why they call it 'atsc' and not 'dvb'. |
| [06:38:00] | djperegrine: | the closest thing is digtal cable from comcast or wahtever I guess |
| [06:39:00] | geoff_: | (as in it is a mpeg2 stream?) |
| [06:39:00] | Chutt: | uh |
| [06:39:00] | Chutt: | if you think 'mpeg2' means it's similar... |
| [06:39:00] | geoff_: | I guess I do |
| [06:39:00] | geoff_: | do I get the same picture basically is what I am asking |
| [06:40:00] | djperegrine: | apperently its alot more kick ass |
| [06:40:00] | Agrajag-: | "alot" isn't a word |
| [06:40:00] | geoff_: | lol |
| [06:40:00] | djperegrine: | shutup :P |
| [06:40:00] | geoff_: | dj: which is more kick-ass? |
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| [06:40:00] | djperegrine: | the picture on dvb singals |
| [06:40:00] | djperegrine: | *signals |
| [06:41:00] | geoff_: | gotcha |
| [06:41:00] | Agrajag-: | dvb signals can vary greatly.. here in .au we have both sd and hd dvb streams – hd are a lot better (sd are still good, better than dvd iirc) |
| [06:42:00] | djperegrine: | better then dvd is good :P |
| [06:42:00] | geoff_: | so for the us, what cards receive astc and can you get it over cable? |
| [06:42:00] | Chutt: | the sd signals should be dvd equivalent |
| [06:43:00] | geoff_: | nm, I'll google |
| [06:43:00] | Chutt: | atsc is broadcast only. |
| [06:43:00] | adante: | the interlacing hurts tho |
| [06:44:00] | Chutt: | 'the interlacing hurts'? |
| [06:44:00] | djperegrine: | basic cable is good enough for me nwo :P |
| [06:44:00] | djperegrine: | *now |
| [06:44:00] | adante: | well, it does :s |
| [06:44:00] | Chutt: | what interlacing? |
| [06:45:00] | geoff_: | Chutt: anything like dvb over cable in us? |
| [06:45:00] | adante: | on my dvb tv |
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| [06:48:00] | Hoodster: | Hi all, I need help in getting a PVR350 working with the hardware decoder and a monitor (no TV hookup). Is this possible? All I get is a black screen. It works okay if I don't enable the mpeg decoder. |
| [06:49:00] | Chutt: | no. |
| [06:51:00] | Hoodster: | Is the mpeg decoder only for TV out? |
| [06:51:00] | Chutt: | obviously. |
| [06:51:00] | Chutt: | but hey, don't bother reading any docs or anything |
| [06:53:00] | Hoodster: | Thanks Chutt. I have been reading, lots at a lot of places. But I haven't come across this specific point. I do appreciate you answering. |
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| [07:16:00] | thechris: | the online guide seems to be out of date or wrong |
| [07:16:00] | thechris: | how do i do transcoding? |
| [07:18:00] | thechris: | "start mythbackend start mythfrontend select setup, and the Transcoding recording profile. now select either RTjpeg or MPEG-4" |
| [07:18:00] | thechris: | i don't see these options |
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| [07:36:00] | xris: | thechris: what kind of transcoding do you want? (meaning, what's your ultimate goal?) |
| [07:38:00] | thechris: | i want something that will reduce the size of the files i get |
| [07:38:00] | thechris: | i was hoping to automatically re-encode the files for archival storage |
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| [07:41:00] | xris: | for archival, you'd want nuvexport. |
| [07:41:00] | xris: | if you just want to cut out commercials, then myth's mpeg4 will work. but then you're stuck with nupplevideo files that nothing else can play. |
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| [07:49:00] | thechris: | nothing else can play nuv files? |
| [07:49:00] | thechris: | oh, another big Q — How do i fix mythTV's database |
| [07:50:00] | thechris: | i delete/lost a bunch of recordings with rm and a hdd change |
| [07:50:00] | thechris: | and they are still listed in mythtv |
| [07:50:00] | thechris: | and it hangs if i attempt to delete them |
| [07:51:00] | metusine: | mplayer can play nuv's |
| [07:52:00] | thechris: | oh, how can i get mythTV to name files something human-readable |
| [07:53:00] | thechris: | or not start in fullscreen mode |
| [07:54:00] | xris: | metusine: no, it can't. not properly, anyway. |
| [07:54:00] | xris: | you can't seek, ff, rw, etc. |
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| [08:06:00] | thechris: | so any way to fix myth's db> |
| [08:06:00] | xris: | thechris: might be something in contrib... but I think by hand may be the only way. |
| [08:06:00] | xris: | could try via mythweb, too. |
| [08:07:00] | thechris: | no that just doesn't work |
| [08:07:00] | thechris: | like you can click it, but nothing happens |
| [08:07:00] | xris: | I think I remember a bug like that from awhile back. |
| [08:07:00] | xris: | "delete from recorded where ...." |
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| [08:09:00] | thechris: | i'd really rather just use rm |
| [08:10:00] | xris: | thought you said the files were gone |
| [08:10:00] | thechris: | they are |
| [08:10:00] | xris: | then there's nothing to rm |
| [08:10:00] | thechris: | well, i filled up the other HDD |
| [08:10:00] | thechris: | and it takes too long to use mythweb or mythtv to remove video |
| [08:11:00] | thechris: | its a chore |
| [08:11:00] | xris: | yes. nothing I can help with there. |
| [08:12:00] | xris: | thus... either delete it manually from the database (fast), or what DD said in #mythtv |
| [08:12:00] | thechris: | i don't know mysql nor do i care about it |
| [08:13:00] | thechris: | is it possible to name the files something readable so i can use mplayer |
| [08:13:00] | xris: | in svn, yes. |
| [08:13:00] | xris: | or grab mythlink.pl from contrib |
| [08:13:00] | xris: | (from svn) |
| [08:13:00] | xris: | mythlink from svn should work with .18 just fine |
| [08:13:00] | xris: | the .sh version included with .18 sucked. |
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| [08:15:00] | xris: | that still doesn't help your delete issue. |
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| [08:16:00] | xris: | if the files are gone, because of that bug, you pretty much have to manually remove them from the database. |
| [08:16:00] | xris: | or wait for .19 (long time), or upgrade to svn |
| [08:17:00] | DD: | is there any release-plan? |
| [08:18:00] | xris: | not for any time soon |
| [08:18:00] | thechris: | in what sense do you mean that? |
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| [08:19:00] | thechris: | like in the gnome "every other week" sense, or the debain "every other year" sense |
| [08:19:00] | DD: | ^^ |
| [08:19:00] | xris: | mythtv versions are basically just "well, the code seems stable enough, let's push a new release" |
| [08:20:00] | xris: | generally, svn is stable, too. |
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| [08:20:00] | defaultro: | hi xris |
| [08:20:00] | defaultro: | how's mythtv? I haven't upgraded my for almost 3 months now |
| [08:20:00] | defaultro: | s/my/mine/ |
| [08:22:00] | Atamido: | defa A new MythTB hasn't come out in over 3 months. |
| [08:22:00] | Atamido: | defaultro: ^ |
| [08:22:00] | xris: | defaultro: mpg recordings are finally .mpg |
| [08:23:00] | Atamido: | Bah, I need to sleep... |
| [08:23:00] | xris: | Atamido: huh? there are changes almost daily |
| [08:23:00] | xris: | some of us live on the cutting edge (some of us have to) |
| [08:23:00] | Atamido: | A new release? http://www.mythtv.org/ |
| [08:23:00] | xris: | who said anything about a release? |
| [08:23:00] | Atamido: | :P |
| [08:24:00] | xris: | he said "upgrade" |
| [08:24:00] | Atamido: | What is new in it? |
| [08:24:00] | xris: | too much to remember. |
| [08:24:00] | xris: | biggest change is .mpg suffix for mpg files |
| [08:25:00] | Atamido: | So, not much? |
| [08:25:00] | xris: | been running it too long. I don't remember what's new and what's not. |
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| [08:26:00] | Atamido: | Where is the CVS/SVN? |
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| [08:28:00] | Atamido: | Oooooh, a trac server. :) |
| [08:28:00] | defaultr0: | can someone please disconnect defaultro |
| [08:28:00] | defaultr0: | that's me when I got disconnected |
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| [08:29:00] | xris: | defaultr0: /msg nickserv help recover |
| [08:29:00] | defaultr0: | oh bam ;) |
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| [08:29:00] | Atamido: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/report/6 |
| [08:30:00] | defaultr0: | thanks xris |
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| [08:30:00] | defaultro: | did you see my message earlier? |
| [08:30:00] | xris: | Atamido: don't remind me how many I have to deal with |
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| [08:30:00] | xris: | stupid control-w |
| [08:31:00] | xris: | I spend too much time in bash |
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| [08:31:00] | thechris: | isn't that also the exit key in firefox? |
| [08:31:00] | Krazylegz: | ctrl-q? |
| [08:32:00] | thechris: | oh, that might be right |
| [08:32:00] | Atamido: | Yep, Ctrl-W just closed my window. |
| [08:32:00] | thechris: | its somthing i've accidently pressed |
| [08:32:00] | Atamido: | I wonder if it would close Chatzilla too. |
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| [08:33:00] | xris: | thechris: well, it's the "close window" key |
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| [08:33:00] | Atamido: | Yep. |
| [08:33:00] | xris: | in bash (or vi), it's "delete previous word" |
| [08:33:00] | Atamido: | Well, it closes that particular channel anyway. |
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| [11:00:00] | dbroo: | hi all. i'm following the discussion on the mailing list re lockups using FF and RW with a PVR-350. i'm having the same problems. it mentions a version higher than 0.18.1 – where can i get this? do i have to download the cvs? |
| [11:00:00] | dbroo: | thanks |
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| [11:10:00] | Twiun: | it never hurts too much to give cvs a go (for just about any project) as long as you can revert if need be ;-) |
| [11:11:00] | dbroo: | ha Twiun – that's the issue – can i revert easily! this is my main tv system now (after my tivo hd died on me, it forced me to make my test mythtv system live). but it's crashing almost all the time i ff or rw now :( – actually, i guess as long as the cvs records and playsback, that's all i have now! |
| [11:13:00] | Twiun: | hmmm, well, you can configure the build to use a private dir for installation (using --prefix and possibly other configure flags) and run it from there. I'm assuming mythtv uses autoconf, I haven't built it or installed it yet (for lack of suitable or spare hardware) |
| [11:14:00] | dbroo: | yes, i could look at that. thanks. |
| [11:16:00] | Twiun: | there's always chroot jails, but that doesn't always play nice and can be finnicky to setup |
| [11:17:00] | dbroo: | interesting. never heard of that (just reading at wikipedia). |
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| [11:17:00] | dbroo: | probably a bit overkill |
| [11:18:00] | Twiun: | if you want overkill, there's also UserMode Linux or Xen virtualisation :) |
| [11:18:00] | Twiun: | but yeah, start with the easier ones |
| [11:18:00] | dbroo: | :) |
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| [11:41:00] | simon_c_home: | Hi all. |
| [11:42:00] | simon_c_home: | Is there anyway in myth of implemeting any parental controls ? Either per program, per catagory of program, or per front end ? |
| [11:49:00] | maniacxs: | simon_c_home, should work .. there is a pin code you can enter in settings. try this. |
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| [11:50:00] | simon_c_home: | maniacxs: OK. thanks for the pointer. |
| [11:50:00] | maniacxs: | simon_c_home, i do not know for what this pin exacly is, but you should try |
| [11:50:00] | maniacxs: | simon_c_home, 'some' kind of parental control |
| [11:50:00] | simon_c_home: | maniacxs: Ideally, I'd like to protect one of the frontends from (say) playing anything 15/18 rated. I'll have a hunt around this setting. |
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| [11:54:00] | ehaase: | anyone know of a good page to setup mythtv on gentoo? |
| [11:58:00] | maniacxs: | ehaase, try: http://www.google.com/search?q=mythtv+gentoo |
| [12:13:00] | ehaase: | i did |
| [12:14:00] | ehaase: | couldn't find what i was looking for =) |
| [12:33:00] | diamon: | Anyone know why every time I reboot I have to do a 'ln -s /dev/lirc0 /dev/lirc' to keep lircd from bombing out? It shouldn't do that... And I have to re-do that command every time it reboots. What am I missing? |
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| [12:46:00] | maniacxs: | ehaase, what you are looking for? |
| [12:48:00] | ehaase: | just a step-by-step guide for the whole process =) |
| [12:48:00] | ehaase: | maybe i'm asking for too much, hehe |
| [12:51:00] | maniacxs: | ehaase, for my gentoo-mythtv installation, i made i took the mythtv.org install guide. |
| [12:52:00] | ehaase: | perhaps thats what i should be doing, ok, thanks |
| [12:53:00] | maniacxs: | ehaase, if you have questions ask them! |
| [12:56:00] | ehaase: | i have too many questions at this point =) |
| [12:56:00] | ehaase: | i think its better if i do ALOT of reading =) |
| [12:56:00] | ehaase: | before i start asking |
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| [13:03:00] | juski: | hmmm did anyone read the channel topic recently? ;) |
| [13:05:00] | sandos: | :) |
| [13:06:00] | diamon: | I like the 'Please don't be a dumbass' part best... |
| [13:07:00] | simon_c_home: | would a dumbass know they were being a dumbass though? I certinaly don't ;-) |
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| [13:08:00] | diamon: | Hard to tell I suppose. Probably the reason it's followed with a 'Dammit!' |
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| [14:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | '; |
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| [14:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Opera is free for everyone now! |
| [14:14:00] | laga: | www.getfirefox.com |
| [14:14:00] | Krazylegz: | www.opera.com |
| [14:14:00] | Krazylegz: | You're up all the time? |
| [14:14:00] | ** Krazylegz wonders if laga is a bot ** | |
| [14:15:00] | laga: | no, i'm in a different time zone ;) |
| [14:16:00] | Krazylegz: | Du bist der Deutscher. |
| [14:16:00] | laga: | jawollja! |
| [14:18:00] | laga: | but to answer your question, 6 hours of sleep is enough for me ;) |
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| [14:22:00] | Krazylegz: | Is your girlfriend still mad at me? |
| [14:26:00] | laga: | i prefer to keep her out of my irc life ;) |
| [14:28:00] | Krazylegz: | Then keep her out of mine! :-P |
| [14:28:00] | laga: | hehe, you're right ;) |
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| [16:10:00] | N-Tropy: | howdy |
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| [16:17:00] | N-Tropy: | anyone here use user jobs ? |
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| [16:22:00] | sphing: | i'm reading the listserv and I dont understand how 720x480 can give similar results as 480x480 |
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| [16:34:00] | fryfrog: | sphing: i don't totally understand it, but vertical resolution is what makes the biggest difference to our perception of quality |
| [16:35:00] | fryfrog: | 320x480 probably looks fine to most people, but 480x240 would look much uglier |
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| [18:19:00] | ** xris curses lack of weird printer drivers in linux (like a zebra rfid printer) ** | |
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| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | you sure CUPS don't support it? |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | it might |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | hard to tell. bad documentation on the zebra drivers. |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | was hard enough to track down info on printing to one of their basic barcode printers (still haven't even been able to test that it works) |
| [18:20:00] | ** Beirdo wishes he'd just win the lottery ** | |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | heh |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | working is soooo overrated |
| [18:21:00] | Crony: | anyone have a pvr-250 successfully working? mine's being a bastard |
| [18:21:00] | Crony: | no sound :( |
| [18:22:00] | Crony: | using the correct msp3400 module |
| [18:22:00] | ** NightBird has a pvr 150 mce working.... not that that helps you ** | |
| [18:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | all of my 250's work fine. Only sound issue I've ever had was when I had sound muted on the card, and when I loaded the wrong module |
| [18:24:00] | Crony: | odd thing is, every once in a while i can get a split second of sound if i do a cat > /dev/video right after i load the ivtv module |
| [18:24:00] | Crony: | repeating a ca > /dev/video after that results in a file with no audio stream |
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| [18:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | check ivtvctl -a does it show the volume really low or muted ? |
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| [18:28:00] | Crony1: | bah, crashed |
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| [18:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | doing what ? |
| [18:32:00] | Chutt: | hrmph |
| [18:32:00] | Chutt: | when reading from the ivtv device, i used to get individual frames per each read |
| [18:32:00] | Chutt: | now i just get the same sized buffer every time |
| [18:33:00] | Beirdo: | nice of them to change that |
| [18:33:00] | Chutt: | eh, just makes things a bit more difficult for me |
| [18:34:00] | xris: | Chutt: you know if there will be mythlink-type file naming options built into mythtv? |
| [18:34:00] | xris: | was planning too rewrite mythlink.pl to something like mythrename.pl to go with the new basename stuff |
| [18:35:00] | Chutt: | i wasn't planning on it |
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| [18:36:00] | xris: | ok |
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| [18:36:00] | xris: | I think I need to eventually formalize the perl hooks for mythtv.. too many scripts using copy-pasted code. |
| [18:37:00] | ** xris wonders where kormoc is ** | |
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| [18:40:00] | Crony: | ivtvctl -a shos mute is off and volume is 58000 |
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| [18:47:00] | DirectQL: | hi |
| [18:47:00] | DirectQL: | curious, how do I set mythtv to remove the commercials? |
| [18:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | dead chickens, fire, some jungle music and guano. Lots of guano |
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| [18:49:00] | DirectQL: | anyone? |
| [18:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, enable commercial flagging in your settings. If you want Myth to auto skip you also enable that. to actually REMOVE them it is usually done by transcoding or thorugh nuvexport using the commerical cutlist |
| [18:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use any of that, so I can't be much more specific |
| [18:51:00] | DirectQL: | i see |
| [18:51:00] | zuralin: | is it possible to use nuvexport or something that has been mythtranscoded? |
| [18:51:00] | zuralin: | err, on something |
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| [18:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | zuralin: I would imagine yeah |
| [18:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | since something you transcode "internally" is still in the database for nuvexport to find |
| [18:52:00] | zuralin: | alright |
| [18:52:00] | zuralin: | been having problems with it :\ |
| [18:52:00] | zuralin: | noticed the bug has been reported months ago |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | One of these days I will find a combination of settings to produce transcoded stuff that I can live with |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | A bug with running it on already transcoded recordings ? |
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| [18:54:00] | zuralin: | a bug running it in general.. wasn't sure if it could also be a problem that they are already transcoded |
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| [18:59:00] | Crony: | sigh, still no sound |
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| [19:06:00] | MeeKs: | im looking to build a mythtv to place my tivo and i have a few questions |
| [19:06:00] | sk: | is it not possible to get VLC to play the stream directly from /dev/video0 ? (pvr-150=hardware encoded) |
| [19:07:00] | MeeKs: | will i be able to record shows directly from the mytv to dvd if i have a dvd burner |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | is it not possible to ask that in a VLC channel? |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | MeeKs: if you get an MPEG2 hardware encoding card, you can do so with minimal work |
| [19:09:00] | MeeKs: | yea that was my next question. is there a recommended set of components for myth? |
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| [19:12:00] | Crony: | anyone have any other suggestions? |
| [19:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | sk: Yes it's possible |
| [19:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | assuming you have compiled vlc to support it |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | vlc != mythtv |
| [19:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use it to stream livetv to my office during the day from my 250's |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Oh please, we NEVER got off topic here. At least it's loosly related to a topic many people to who come in here might be interested in :) |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | it's like calling a cable modem provider to complain that your DSL doesn't work |
| [19:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | It was an inquery, not a complaint. But don't you call your Cable modem provider to ask questions about DSL service ?:) |
| [19:15:00] | sk: | mythstreamTV is very related to VLC |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:15:00] | MeneMMate1: | I'd like a golden tip: My PVR 350 suddenly stopped showing channels. I can see it is changing it's frequency, because the static changes. But no longer the actual channel. I've already tried the "option tda9887=0" to no avail... |
| [19:15:00] | MeneMMate1: | I've follow jarod's guide |
| [19:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | sk: I don't think mythstreamtv gives the option to stream directly from the capture card, but vlc will do it. I stopped using mythstreamtv and just use a couple perl script for stream livrtv or any of my recorded/downloaded content |
| [19:16:00] | GooseWork: | is there anyway i can reset my mysql password? |
| [19:16:00] | GooseWork: | cause i keep getting |
| [19:16:00] | GooseWork: | mythtv:/var/www/htdocs/torrent/html# mysql -u root -p |
| [19:16:00] | GooseWork: | Enter password: |
| [19:16:00] | GooseWork: | ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) |
| [19:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | uhhhh |
| [19:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | does that say that the erorr has to do with authentication ? |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | GooseWork: try reading the MySQL documentation :) |
| [19:17:00] | MeneMMate1: | No it seems Mysql is not running? |
| [19:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | MeneMMate1: yeah |
| [19:17:00] | sk: | GreyFoxx: So you are using VLC for streaming, or am I getting you wrong? |
| [19:17:00] | MeneMMate1: | try ps ax | grep mysql |
| [19:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | OR mysqld is using adifferent local socket than the one his client is trying to usre |
| [19:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | sk: I'm using vlc via the commandline/perl scripts. I use to use mythstreamtv but find this more convienient |
| [19:18:00] | GooseWork: | ok |
| [19:18:00] | GooseWork: | now i get |
| [19:18:00] | GooseWork: | mysql -u root -p |
| [19:18:00] | GooseWork: | Enter password: |
| [19:18:00] | GooseWork: | ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
| [19:18:00] | GooseWork: | anyway to reset it |
| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | to reset it, RTFM |
| [19:19:00] | GooseWork: | ok |
| [19:19:00] | MeneMMate1: | Does anyone have a suggestion for my ivtv troubles? |
| [19:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | I would suggest checking the plentiful docs at www.mysql.com |
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| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | it's well covered in MySQL's documentation |
| [19:19:00] | sk: | GreyFoxx: cool – that's what I'm trying to get into as well – did you compile VLC yourself, or are you at a packaged system? |
| [19:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't do packages |
| [19:25:00] | juski: | right.. time for me to go home |
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| [19:27:00] | orb_rox: | MeneMMate1: is it still set to the correct input? (as in: ivtvctl -P) |
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| [19:30:00] | mchou: | anyone remember where to designate remote commercial flagging host? |
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| [19:55:00] | GooseWork: | whats a good torrent program for linux? |
| [19:55:00] | MeeKs: | use bittorrent |
| [19:55:00] | kormoc: | bittorrent |
| [19:56:00] | MeeKs: | works great for me |
| [19:56:00] | kormoc: | but it's a not allowed topic |
| [19:56:00] | MeeKs: | yea |
| [19:56:00] | kormoc: | so it'd be good to not mention any more. |
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| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | heya, kormoc |
| [20:02:00] | kormoc: | hihi |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | I need to break shit :) |
| [20:03:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
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| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, been one of those days |
| [20:04:00] | kormoc: | icky :/ |
| [20:05:00] | kormoc: | well, you could always ssh into a box and break it nice and good :) |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | don't tempt me |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | what's the IP of your workstation? |
| [20:10:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [20:10:00] | kormoc: | try uhh. |
| [20:10:00] | kormoc: | 127.0.0.1 |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | nice try |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | I already owned that machine |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:13:00] | kormoc: | drat :P |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | I'm gonna fucking kill something/someone |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | someone fux0red the firewall rules again |
| [20:14:00] | kormoc: | gah |
| [20:14:00] | kormoc: | go firewall them! |
| [20:15:00] | Beirdo: | they are making it exceedingly hard for me to finish my testing this week |
| [20:15:00] | malverian[work]: | mchou, ping |
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| [20:24:00] | xris: | wow, air2pc cards are shipping again! (we just got ours at work)( |
| [20:26:00] | xris: | dopester: so.. does the air2pc hd5000 card have driversa yet? |
| [20:32:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:35:00] | mchou: | hey malverian[work] |
| [20:36:00] | mchou: | malverian[work]: what's up |
| [20:36:00] | mchou: | xris: hd5000? |
| [20:36:00] | mchou: | I know the new air2pc has drivers :) |
| [20:36:00] | mchou: | but I dont know hd5000 |
| [20:37:00] | mchou: | i.e. what it is :) |
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| [20:40:00] | mchou: | xris: let us know if air2pc really works on clear qam this time :) |
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| [20:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | man. I watch way too much TV. Total: 1967.35 hours |
| [20:43:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | 1967 recorded hours since the last time I wiped my oldrecorded table |
| [20:43:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [20:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | and that's just RECORDED stuff, not stuff I got from other sources |
| [20:47:00] | beavis: | is there xmame for 64bit? |
| [20:50:00] | jnc: | good question |
| [20:50:00] | jnc: | beavis: i did not see xmame debian packages for amd64 |
| [20:51:00] | mchou: | somehow I doubt if mame has gone 64....... |
| [20:51:00] | jnc: | yes, it will go plaid soon |
| [20:51:00] | jnc: | IN ALL PLAID GLORY |
| [20:51:00] | jnc: | plaid cabinets, plaid control panels, plaid marquees |
| [20:51:00] | jnc: | YESSSSsssssS |
| [20:51:00] | mchou: | plaid??? |
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| [20:52:00] | mocker: | Lost is on tonight! |
| [20:52:00] | jnc: | PLAID! |
| [20:52:00] | jnc: | i tell you, yesss |
| [20:52:00] | jnc: | plaid be the glory of mame in its enlightenment |
| [20:52:00] | jnc: | plaid to the power of plaid |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | WTF? |
| [20:52:00] | ** jnc collapses, plaid. ** | |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | jnc: put down the crack pipe, you've had enough |
| [20:52:00] | jnc: | nnee nennne nnooo |
| [20:52:00] | jnc: | need more plaid |
| [20:53:00] | jnc: | *twitch* |
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| [21:06:00] | Juski: | here's a question for you... I transcoded a DVB-T recording to MPEG4 last night.. playing it back on my EPIA frontend (minimyth) is very bursty and it flashes green a lot... the OSD also turns a shade of red... BUT if I change the playback speed, all is well... any ideas? |
| [21:07:00] | jnc: | CPU speed? |
| [21:07:00] | jnc: | i know that's kind of a guess |
| [21:07:00] | Juski: | er... if it's time-stretching or compressing.. the video & audio are fine |
| [21:08:00] | jnc: | wow that's a question for the programmers i think |
| [21:08:00] | jnc: | which version |
| [21:08:00] | Juski: | erm... hmmm.. |
| [21:08:00] | Juski: | it's been a while since I changed the version of minimyth I'm using, on account of it working fine... |
| [21:09:00] | Juski: | 0.18.1.2 (eek) |
| [21:09:00] | Juski: | I'll try upgrading it then... |
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| [21:14:00] | JoshTriplett: | Hello. I seem to be having some trouble with my PVR-350 (using ivtv 0.2). When attempting to read video off the card, whether using mythtv or just dd, there's a 14–15 second delay before the card returns any data at all. |
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| [21:15:00] | JoshTriplett: | I've googled around for similar reports but I haven't yet found anything. |
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| [21:18:00] | digitalb0y: | Even with tv time? do your have DMA enabled,? |
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| [21:19:00] | eiggirC: | JoshTriplett: is the machine underpowered? |
| [21:19:00] | JoshTriplett: | eiggirC: No. |
| [21:19:00] | digitalb0y: | what are your specs? |
| [21:20:00] | JoshTriplett: | digitalb0y: Do you mean DMA on the disk or the card? |
| [21:20:00] | digitalb0y: | yea, on your HDD it can cause issues with caching when using mythtv |
| [21:21:00] | digitalb0y: | if your not using DMA |
| [21:21:00] | JoshTriplett: | digitalb0y: P4 Celeron 2.53Ghz, 256Mb of memory, 160Gb SATA disk. |
| [21:21:00] | JoshTriplett: | digitalb0y: I'm definitely using DMA on the drive. |
| [21:21:00] | JoshTriplett: | digitalb0y: And the delay occurs whether or not I'm writing the video to disk. |
| [21:22:00] | JoshTriplett: | digitalb0y: "dd if=/dev/video0 of=/dev/null count=1" takes ~14.5 seconds. |
| [21:22:00] | JoshTriplett: | digitalb0y: Increasing count just incrementally increases the time, so I think the throughput is fine, it's just a long delay before data starts coming back. |
| [21:25:00] | digitalb0y: | have you tried cvs for ivtv did you have any othe same issues with it? |
| [21:26:00] | JoshTriplett: | digitalb0y: I haven't tried ivtv 0.3, just 0.2. |
| [21:27:00] | JoshTriplett: | One other issue that might be related: if I grab some video with dd, and play it back with a standard video player (even on another machine), the counter runs very fast (45 video seconds in 5–10 seconds of real time), as does the video. |
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| [21:34:00] | nofpu: | hmm – I can get nothing from /dev/video0 (ivtv) regardless of which ivtvctl -p n I choose |
| [21:34:00] | nofpu: | anyone tell me what Im missing? |
| [21:34:00] | JoshTriplett: | nofpu: Does passthrough work? Try "ivtvctl -K 1". |
| [21:35:00] | JoshTriplett: | nofpu: (And then try the various inputs again.) |
| [21:35:00] | nofpu: | JoshTriplett: thanks – I'll try |
| [21:35:00] | JoshTriplett: | nofpu: Also, on a hunch: how long are you waiting to see if data comes out from /dev/video0? |
| [21:36:00] | JoshTriplett: | nofpu: At least 30 seconds? |
| [21:36:00] | nofpu: | hrm no – I cat /dev/video0 > foo.mpg for < 30 secs |
| [21:37:00] | nofpu: | I will try for longer, thanks |
| [21:38:00] | nofpu: | also: (from dmesg) ivtv: i2c attach [client=(tuner unset),ok] |
| [21:38:00] | nofpu: | the 'tuner unset' part worries me – is that normal? |
| [21:38:00] | JoshTriplett: | nofpu: Ah, right; did you run "ptune"? |
| [21:38:00] | JoshTriplett: | nofpu: Run it and give a channel number that you know works. |
| [21:38:00] | JoshTriplett: | "ptune 4" for example. |
| [21:39:00] | JoshTriplett: | (I don't know if that's what causes that message; "tuner" just made me think of asking if you set the channel.) |
| [21:42:00] | ** nofpu experiments some more ** | |
| [21:45:00] | xris: | mchou: the box sais "AirStar-HD5000-PCI" |
| [21:45:00] | JoshTriplett: | Hmmm; looks like the video also plays back jerkily and way too fast if I dd it back to video16. |
| [21:45:00] | JoshTriplett: | (about 3x) |
| [21:45:00] | xris: | and it was purchased as an air2pc |
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| [21:54:00] | digitalb0y: | I also got the Newer Air2Pc, The Technistat AirStar HD5000 – PCI Been waiting since March, Recived it yesterday, just havent installed it, been keeping busy at work (still at work!) |
| [21:56:00] | Zalik: | digitalb0y theres some setup info on the card at hd5000.com , Y ou'll have to download taylors patch |
| [21:56:00] | laga: | hi digitalb0y! |
| [21:56:00] | Zalik: | It seemed easier to setup for me the the first air2pc (2nd gen) card |
| [21:57:00] | digitalb0y: | hey Laga.... long time huh |
| [21:57:00] | laga: | digitalb0y: yeah, unfortunately;). how is it going? |
| [21:59:00] | digitalb0y: | been extremely busy at work, havent given up on the GenMyth Project I Now have a beta CD ready once I get home, I'll put it up on digitialboy.mythtvtalk |
| [22:00:00] | digitalb0y: | yesterday got my New HD-5000 Card and waiting to test it out. |
| [22:00:00] | laga: | digitalb0y: great news :). you'd probably want to set up a bittorrent tracker, i think coume is allergic to high traffic ;) |
| [22:01:00] | digitalb0y: | true |
| [22:01:00] | laga: | digitalb0y: nice. hope it wont give you too much trouble ;) |
| [22:01:00] | digitalb0y: | I'm going to put it up on Linuxtorrents, it's an legal Linux distro site |
| [22:01:00] | laga: | sounds cool |
| [22:03:00] | digitalb0y: | thanks, It' may be a little time before I put it up I'd like to mess around with my new HD card first. |
| [22:04:00] | laga: | don't hurry ;) |
| [22:04:00] | Juski: | hiya laga |
| [22:05:00] | Juski: | how goes it? |
| [22:05:00] | laga: | Juski: fine. nice to see you guys together ;) |
| [22:05:00] | Juski: | oh yeah.. sheesh – it's like a mythtvtalk convention in here lol |
| [22:06:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [22:06:00] | laga: | who are the bttv people with their questions about alsamixer? |
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| [22:06:00] | laga: | where* |
| [22:08:00] | mchou: | xris: hmm, OK. |
| [22:09:00] | Juski: | hell, it's so long since I configured minimyth I can't remember how to do it... |
| [22:09:00] | ** Juski goes off to RTFM ** | |
| [22:09:00] | Juski: | ls |
| [22:09:00] | Juski: | oops |
| [22:09:00] | laga: | lol |
| [22:14:00] | nofpu: | ivtvctl -r 719000 <-- would that set the frequency to 719MHz? |
| [22:14:00] | nofpu: | ...cant figure out the units |
| [22:16:00] | Juski: | yep.. looks that way.. if the ivctl parameter should be in khz |
| [22:16:00] | Juski: | *ivtvctl |
| [22:16:00] | nofpu: | I /think/ it should be in kHz :) |
| [22:17:00] | nofpu: | *sob* cant get anything except snow on input 4 and blacknedd on all other inputs |
| [22:17:00] | nofpu: | s/dd/ss/ |
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| [22:17:00] | JoshTriplett: | nofpu: Snow is promising. |
| [22:18:00] | JoshTriplett: | nofpu: 1) Are you using the correct TV standard? |
| [22:18:00] | JoshTriplett: | nofpu: 2) Is the channel set? |
| [22:18:00] | JoshTriplett: | nofpu: 1 applies to both input and output. |
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| [22:18:00] | ** Juski is off to test minimyth ** | |
| [22:19:00] | Fosten: | hi i am trying to install mythtv, i was able to run mythsetup once, however now when i type either mythsetup or mythfrontend it says "new db connection, total: 1"... any ideas? |
| [22:20:00] | digitalb0y: | Seeya later , Im going home. |
| [22:21:00] | JoshTriplett: | Well, I'm going to try the ivtv 0.3 drivers just to see if they fix the problem. |
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| [22:56:00] | ulitz: | is it possible to change the filename in a directory and then change the name in the database so it will still show up in frontend? |
| [22:56:00] | ulitz: | tried to find out which table holds the info but it seems to me that it only saves data of shows and uses that to find the file |
| [22:57:00] | kormoc: | ulitz, the svn code of myth allows that I do beleive, but .0.18.x doesn't afaik |
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| [23:04:00] | hfghfh: | is there someone who knows what library qt-mt is |
| [23:05:00] | hfghfh: | i get an error from ld saying it could not find -lqt-mt when compiling mythtv from atrpms |
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| [23:10:00] | ulitz: | kormoc: do you know what table that would be? |
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| [23:24:00] | kormoc: | hfghfh, qt-mt is the qt lib, multitreaded .so iirc |
| [23:24:00] | kormoc: | ulitz, not off hand, no |
| [23:25:00] | ulitz: | the closest one seemed to bee recorded program, but I didnt see anything like name.. just chanid start and end times |
| [23:25:00] | hfghfh: | thanks kormoc, found that out eventually. know I only have to discover why ld cant find it |
| [23:26:00] | kormoc: | ulitz, you have svn source? |
| [23:26:00] | kormoc: | hfghfh, you might need to recompile/reinstall qt |
| [23:29:00] | Hoxzer: | boyyy leave her aloneeee |
| [23:30:00] | hfghfh: | I have found libqt-mt.so so that should not be the problem. But i think i tries to find in lib instead och lib64 |
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