| Friday, August 26th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | Chutt: | right, and 99% of all irc traffic is used that way |
| [00:00:00] | Chutt: | hell, you can see right here in this channel! |
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| [00:00:00] | laga: | purplefrog: and as you grow older, you will be able to spell my name correctly. |
| [00:00:00] | Chutt: | git yer 0day action in #mythtv-users! |
| [00:01:00] | juski: | so for now DCC is 'under the radar'.. but for how long? |
| [00:01:00] | laga: | !list for our hawttest stuff |
| [00:01:00] | Chutt: | it's never been under the radar |
| [00:01:00] | gr8nash: | could anyone share howto make my zap print out tell my something about signal strength |
| [00:01:00] | gr8nash: | i know about lock.. but not sure what to read to tell the signal strenght itself |
| [00:01:00] | juski: | under the radar as in .. not general public knowledge |
| [00:01:00] | purplefrog: | laga, it's not my fault the default gaim font doesn't distinguish between l and I. |
| [00:01:00] | awb4422: | About apache 2 gig file limit: THe only fix ive seen is to use apache 2.2 – is there another way around this? |
| [00:02:00] | purplefrog: | awb4422: I use scp, but I suspect that's not the workaround you wanted. |
| [00:02:00] | juski: | how many times did I fail to see what I was doing wrong in an ssh session with patch -pl ? lol |
| [00:02:00] | MrFluffy: | irc is beneath the radar, never mind dcc, chat to most people means some horrid java applet.. |
| [00:02:00] | purplefrog: | It doesn't matter much. most of the client programs (like wget) choke like a 14-year-old hooker when you ask them to download a >2G file. |
| [00:03:00] | awb4422: | purplefrog: for me thats ok, but my roommates arent so computer savvy |
| [00:03:00] | awb4422: | it was tough enough to get them to browse out to a site |
| [00:03:00] | awb4422: | I have mythlink convert the filenames, and then they sit out on an intranet site |
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| [00:04:00] | gr8nash: | azap "signal e290" converts to "58000" |
| [00:04:00] | gr8nash: | what does that tell me? |
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| [00:05:00] | MrFluffy: | night all.. |
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| [00:05:00] | gr8nash: | heh.. any dvb users here? |
| [00:06:00] | ** gr8nash watches the tumbleweed blow by ** | |
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| [00:13:00] | djperegrine: | no we use myth? |
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| [00:15:00] | xris: | djperegrine: subject verb object |
| [00:15:00] | xris: | gr8nash: since when do you use dvb? |
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| [00:17:00] | gr8nash: | i have been using it for 6 months.. but only for atsc |
| [00:17:00] | gr8nash: | actually problem 1 year.. .. something like that |
| [00:17:00] | gr8nash: | s/problem/probley |
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| [00:22:00] | juski: | right – bedtime. night all |
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| [00:23:00] | xris: | gr8nash: so atsc, then... but dvb drivers. |
| [00:23:00] | gr8nash: | right.. |
| [00:24:00] | gr8nash: | yeah confusing how that worked out |
| [00:27:00] | xris: | quite |
| [00:31:00] | gr8nash: | really wish there was a easy way to aim antenna's with dvb.. google is wearing me out with no sucess |
| [00:31:00] | gr8nash: | dtvsignal is the only way i have seen .. but that doesnt work for air2pc |
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| [00:32:00] | gr8nash: | or dvb for that matter |
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| [00:37:00] | Tatster41: | I know the Hauppuage PVR-250/350 cards are quite good as they do hardware encoding – does anyone know if the Haupuage WInTV NovaT PCI (DVB) cards also do hardware encoding? |
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| [00:54:00] | SarahEmm: | hihi |
| [00:55:00] | laga: | hi SarahEmm |
| [00:56:00] | SarahEmm: | hihi laga |
| [00:59:00] | Krazylegz: | #furry ? |
| [01:00:00] | laga: | man razor |
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| [01:01:00] | SarahEmm: | what about it Krazylegz? |
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| [01:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Just wonderin what they'd talk about in there. :-) |
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| [01:05:00] | SarahEmm: | Krazylegz: furryness :) |
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| [01:22:00] | Agrajag-: | so.. anyone up for submitting a dup bug and then having a crazy conversation with Chutt all day today? |
| [01:23:00] | SarahEmm: | Krazylegz: what did you mean yell at people to use supported hardware? |
| [01:23:00] | Cowman: | hi, I'm having an odd problem with my mythfrontend. it was working just fine but after a recent reboot it now skips frames the screen flashes green now and then. while this is going on, mythfrontend is using 99% cpu. It used to only use around 30% |
| [01:23:00] | Krazylegz: | Tell them to use PVR-250/350 since those have better support. It's easier than working on the ivtv stuff. :-) |
| [01:24:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh |
| [01:24:00] | SarahEmm: | them being me |
| [01:24:00] | SarahEmm: | but that limits me to recording one channel at a time |
| [01:24:00] | SarahEmm: | i'd like a PVR-500 to get around that :) |
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| [01:24:00] | SarahEmm: | and 250/350 still doesn't help, as it still doesn't support CC out of the box |
| [01:24:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh. |
| [01:24:00] | Krazylegz: | Gotcha. |
| [01:24:00] | Cowman: | get two PVR-250s |
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| [01:24:00] | Cowman: | :P |
| [01:25:00] | laga: | my 250 supports telext. the vbi stuff. |
| [01:26:00] | SarahEmm: | laga: in PAL-land or NTSC-ville? |
| [01:26:00] | SarahEmm: | Cowman: only one PCI slot. |
| [01:26:00] | laga: | SarahEmm: pal-country |
| [01:27:00] | Cowman: | only one? teh suck |
| [01:27:00] | SarahEmm: | okay. |
| [01:27:00] | SarahEmm: | doesn't work in north america last i saw. at least not with myth. |
| [01:27:00] | SarahEmm: | so i'm still using bttv with software encoding which is hard on my CPU heh |
| [01:28:00] | Cowman: | anyone have any suggestions for my problem? I noticed prebuffering pause repeated over and over and over in the console window if that means anything |
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| [01:33:00] | Cowman: | I tried watching livetv on the remote frontend and there is no problem, so it must be the frontend on the other machine |
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| [01:36:00] | Atamido: | MythTV is completely unresponsive for me and I can't even SSH in. |
| [01:37:00] | Atamido: | The hard drive light is accessing so it must be doing something. |
| [01:37:00] | Atamido: | But whatever it is doing can't be as important as me getting to watch TV. |
| [01:38:00] | SarahEmm: | well, if you can't SSH in and there's nothing on the console, there's really not anything you can do.... |
| [01:38:00] | SarahEmm: | you've tried ctrl-alt-backspace to kill the X server? |
| [01:38:00] | awb4422: | power the bizzo off |
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| [01:51:00] | purplefrog: | My mythbackend has been working fine with the ivtv-0.2.0 drivers for about a year, but now I want to upgrade to a 2.6 kernel (to hopefully make the pchdtv installation easier). I see sourceforge has ivtv-0.3.3k Is there a particular recent ivtv version that hauppauge 250 owners like especially? |
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| [02:42:00] | purplefrog: | OK, I have a Hauppauge 250, I just compiled kernel 2.6.12.5, installed ivtv drivers from the 0.3.3 version, and now when I watch live TV, the audio is "choppy". If I pause, buffer appears to accumulate at half-speed. When I unpause, it sounds like I'm listening to timestretch x2. Any clues? |
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| [03:02:00] | fangji: | Agrajag-, are you here |
| [03:03:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah |
| [03:04:00] | purplefrog: | Has anyone found a persistent solution to this problem: |
| [03:04:00] | purplefrog: | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func . . . ;atid=537126 |
| [03:04:00] | purplefrog: | video plays back too fast (captured too slow?) |
| [03:05:00] | fangji: | always Leadtek TV2000XP,can you load lirc_gpio module? |
| [03:07:00] | lcdg720: | k-man, you get your tvout + monitor working? |
| [03:08:00] | fangji: | Agrajag-, to Leadtek TV2000XP,can you load lirc_gpio module? |
| [03:08:00] | k-man: | lcdg720, no |
| [03:08:00] | k-man: | i gave up |
| [03:08:00] | k-man: | at least for now |
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| [03:08:00] | lcdg720: | bummer |
| [03:09:00] | KaiForce: | anyone using MythstreamTV? |
| [03:09:00] | ** SarahEmm can't, i don't have a PVR-xxx heh ** | |
| [03:10:00] | lcdg720: | found out the problem why mythtv load of lirc was failing... ~/.mythtv/lircrc file was made in Windows notepad. Had Windows LF returns in it. Created the same file in vi and it loaded. Weird. |
| [03:10:00] | k-man: | lcdg720, yeah... i feel like its a hardware issue |
| [03:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | KaiForce: I do. Or at least I did. I just use my own scripts now |
| [03:10:00] | k-man: | lcdg720, the hardware says "mode not supported on hardware " or something like that |
| [03:10:00] | KaiForce: | lcdg720 not weird at all, expect that |
| [03:11:00] | lcdg720: | I was stuck on it for a while. |
| [03:11:00] | KaiForce: | GreyFoxx ok,VLC is leaking memory like mad when I'm streaming |
| [03:11:00] | purplefrog: | lcdg720: carriage returns? Unix uses \n (line feed). DOS uses \r\n (carriage return + line feed). |
| [03:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | KaiForce: I haven't had any problems so far. And I stream about 6 hours a day with it |
| [03:11:00] | lcdg720: | didn't know. copied Jarod Wilson's config direct from his page. |
| [03:12:00] | KaiForce: | GreyFoxx I'm using an RPM that had lame support compiled in, i should probably try compiling my own |
| [03:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use packages so I don't know if there was a problem with any particular packages |
| [03:14:00] | KaiForce: | GreyFoxx thank you sir. I'm becoming a fan of rolling my own. |
| [03:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [03:14:00] | KaiForce: | it always works ;) |
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| [03:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | *nod* :) |
| [03:15:00] | mchou: | anyone here have a uirt2? |
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| [03:20:00] | lcdg720: | LedHed. Lirc load fail was because ~/.mythtv/lircrc file had Windows carriage returns in it. Thought you would want to know. |
| [03:21:00] | LedHed: | lol |
| [03:21:00] | LedHed: | that use to get me all the time. Now I only edit linux conf files in linux.... |
| [03:21:00] | lcdg720: | recreated the file in vi and it is working now. |
| [03:22:00] | LedHed: | there is avtually a vi command to convert it from DOS to Linux |
| [03:22:00] | lcdg720: | I must have grabbed the file from a Windows box at work then scp'd it to the mythbox. |
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| [03:22:00] | LedHed: | I new it had to be the lircec file |
| [03:23:00] | lcdg720: | I didn't know that. Felt pretty silly retyping the whole thing but that worked. |
| [03:23:00] | lcdg720: | looking for a solution to k-man's dual output now... |
| [03:23:00] | k-man: | lcdg720, you are? thanks |
| [03:23:00] | LedHed: | dual output? |
| [03:23:00] | LedHed: | tv-out |
| [03:23:00] | k-man: | lcdg720, i have an fx5200 |
| [03:23:00] | k-man: | i think it maybe be a limitation of the card i have |
| [03:24:00] | LedHed: | shouldnt be |
| [03:24:00] | k-man: | i read somewhere a rumour that some cards can't do simultaneous LCD and tv output |
| [03:24:00] | lcdg720: | me too. I know the xorg.conf I gave you shows "mx440" but that was the first card I tried. |
| [03:24:00] | k-man: | no? |
| [03:24:00] | lcdg720: | reading nvidia's readme file now... |
| [03:24:00] | k-man: | lcdg720, anyway, i'm at work at the moment, so i can't test it now |
| [03:24:00] | k-man: | ok |
| [03:24:00] | lcdg720: | k |
| [03:24:00] | lcdg720: | ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7676/README.txt |
| [03:26:00] | k-man: | yeah |
| [03:27:00] | Agrajag-: | fangji: sorry, was afk. yeah, lirc_gpio is what i load for it |
| [03:27:00] | k-man: | i spend quite a bit of time reading over that file |
| [03:27:00] | lcdg720: | oh. sorry. |
| [03:27:00] | k-man: | lcdg720, and afaict, my settings were correct, but no joy |
| [03:27:00] | k-man: | s/spend/spent |
| [03:27:00] | lcdg720: | I had an mx440 before and it would fail on tv-out constantly. plugged in a 5200 and it worked with the same config. |
| [03:28:00] | k-man: | lcdg720, really? hmm... |
| [03:28:00] | k-man: | lcdg720, i should just try your config and see how it goes |
| [03:28:00] | k-man: | or maybe my driver is a bit old |
| [03:28:00] | k-man: | i used the deb install for the driver |
| [03:28:00] | LedHed: | k-man, post your xorg.conf on pastebin |
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| [03:28:00] | lcdg720: | yep. have to install xorg |
| [03:28:00] | k-man: | LedHed, can't. i'm not at home |
| [03:29:00] | LedHed: | ah |
| [03:29:00] | k-man: | lcdg720, i'm trying to keep this machine as default as possible |
| [03:29:00] | lcdg720: | ahh. |
| [03:29:00] | lcdg720: | looking at twinview option on nvidia read file.... |
| [03:29:00] | k-man: | and as eventually i won't have a monitor connected, i don't really feel the need for doing this |
| [03:29:00] | k-man: | i mean, its interesting, but not necessary |
| [03:29:00] | lcdg720: | ahh. |
| [03:29:00] | lcdg720: | I only run on TV. |
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| [03:30:00] | LedHed: | exactly. just have 2 configs 1 for TV one for Monitor |
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| [03:31:00] | lcdg720: | Appendix G reference "TwinView" option is only supported on some nvidia chipsets. didn't list 5200.. you may be out of luck. |
| [03:31:00] | Agrajag-: | what are you trying ot do? |
| [03:31:00] | Agrajag-: | i have a 5200 with twinview |
| [03:31:00] | lcdg720: | excellent! |
| [03:32:00] | Agrajag-: | here's my xf86config http://home.whatsbeef.net:1339/~filip/XF86Config-4 |
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| [03:32:00] | Agrajag-: | i have it so i have 2 X screens, one where i run mythtv on my tv, another on my computer screen, so i can use both at once |
| [03:33:00] | lcdg720: | just when all hope was lost. That appears to be just what k-man needs. |
| [03:33:00] | k-man: | Agrajag-, yeah, i tried your setup but it didn't work |
| [03:33:00] | k-man: | for me |
| [03:34:00] | lcdg720: | damn the bad luck. |
| [03:34:00] | k-man: | Agrajag-, i'll give it a go again... tonight |
| [03:34:00] | k-man: | but i'm sure its not wkring for me |
| [03:34:00] | k-man: | Agrajag-, does it just boot into dual head mode? with both tv and monitor working? |
| [03:34:00] | k-man: | Agrajag-, or do you have to run a special command when starting X to make it work? |
| [03:35:00] | k-man: | and once its working, do you just open mythtv using DISPLAY=:0.1? |
| [03:36:00] | Agrajag-: | when i startx, both tv and monitor are working. and yeah, to run anything on the 2nd screen, do "DISPLAY=:0.1 command" |
| [03:37:00] | k-man: | Agrajag-, yeah... didn't work for me |
| [03:37:00] | k-man: | but I'll try again tonight or sometime this weekend |
| [03:39:00] | Cromz: | hmm kool.. I knew I was sitting in here to learn more. display=: gotta look at that command. :> |
| [03:39:00] | Agrajag-: | eh? |
| [03:39:00] | Agrajag-: | it's just an environment variable |
| [03:40:00] | Cromz: | yeah but I never saw it. |
| [03:40:00] | Agrajag-: | same as doing "export DISPLAY=:0.1" |
| [03:40:00] | Agrajag-: | except only for that command |
| [03:40:00] | Cromz: | I'm still semi new to linux. |
| [03:41:00] | lcdg720: | anyone using a hauppauge 250 with the grey and black remote? Grey face, black back? |
| [03:41:00] | lcdg720: | My lircrc file is working but only a few buttons. |
| [03:42:00] | Agrajag-: | use irw and fix your lircd.conf then |
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| [03:43:00] | Cromz: | lcdg720, my 350 did the same till I saw in one of the files it said vol+ and the other volume_up had to go through each one to correct them. |
| [03:43:00] | Agrajag-: | or that |
| [03:43:00] | Agrajag-: | just check what's in your lircd.conf and make sure it all matches up |
| [03:43:00] | lcdg720: | hmm. perhaps I don't understand the relation between the lircd.conf and the ~/.mythtv/lircrc file. KLIRC correctly identifies each key. Myth does not. |
| [03:44:00] | lcdg720: | ahh. Correlate each button identified in lircd.conf into commands in lircrc? |
| [03:44:00] | Agrajag-: | use ircat too |
| [03:44:00] | lcdg720: | k |
| [03:45:00] | lcdg720: | Cromz, was it "vol+" or "volume_up"? I seem to notice many discrepencies in Jarod's file. |
| [03:45:00] | Cromz: | doesn't matter long as both are the same :) |
| [03:46:00] | lcdg720: | ahh. I see now. lircd.conf lists Commands tied to the code sent by the remote. Those commands need to equal what I have in the lircrc. |
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| [03:46:00] | Cromz: | yes |
| [03:47:00] | lcdg720: | One problem at a time. I should be watching television by 2008. |
| [03:47:00] | Cromz: | heh |
| [03:49:00] | burly: | lcdg720: just in time for them to change the broadcast specs so you can upgrade to new hardware |
| [03:49:00] | burly: | hehe |
| [03:49:00] | lcdg720: | is there a list of keyboard commands to the mythfrontend interface anywhere? Haven't found it on mythtv.org. |
| [03:49:00] | lcdg720: | heh heh. |
| [03:49:00] | Cromz: | I built a wacked uber geek system. and I get the newest part early next week. a matrox parhelia 128, and get to have all the fun in re configuring again. |
| [03:49:00] | Cromz: | lcdg720, I saw them in the myth docs somewhere.. |
| [03:50:00] | lcdg720: | Will keep looking. |
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| [03:51:00] | lcdg720: | duh. found them. I'd swear I looked before. |
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| [04:34:00] | SqWaw: | n=no eh brad? |
| [04:34:00] | Hate|Love: | ? |
| [04:35:00] | SqWaw: | |
| [04:35:00] | PatrickDK: | is it possible to setup X11 to display a normal working screen on my video card, and display mythtv on the pvr350? |
| [04:36:00] | Hate|Love: | Hey guys, I'm helping a friend build a mythbox, I was wondering about remote's, since I only use a keyboard and mouse, do they have to be coded to the PVR tuner, (wintv 500), or can I just get a ati wonder II and be fine? |
| [04:36:00] | Mrgoose: | PatrickDK: yes |
| [04:36:00] | Mrgoose: | thats how im set up |
| [04:36:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, guess I haven't found the magic settings yet |
| [04:36:00] | Mrgoose: | oh |
| [04:36:00] | Mrgoose: | nah |
| [04:36:00] | PatrickDK: | been trying it, searching, haven't found much |
| [04:36:00] | Mrgoose: | thats not how i have it |
| [04:37:00] | Mrgoose: | i have a NVIDIA geforce 4 with svideo output and monitor output. So regular desktop shows up on my monitor and mythtv is on the tv |
| [04:37:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, well, what I have found so far, I can load up X11 with one or the other |
| [04:37:00] | PatrickDK: | or even load up two X11 (kindof) |
| [04:38:00] | PatrickDK: | but not both screens with one X11 |
| [04:38:00] | PatrickDK: | if I load up two copies of X11, the first one I load up screen goes nuts |
| [04:38:00] | purplefrog: | PatrickDK: the 350-out option is buried somewhere in the Setup menus of the MythFrontend. |
| [04:38:00] | PatrickDK: | purplefrog, yes, I don't have a problem with that |
| [04:40:00] | Mrgoose: | PatrickDK: i know how to set up two seperate screens just not with 350 |
| [04:40:00] | purplefrog: | I don't think you want to put X on the 350, do you? |
| [04:41:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, you have tostart X on the 350 to get mythtv to work |
| [04:41:00] | purplefrog: | really? |
| [04:41:00] | PatrickDK: | or atleast that is the only way mythfrontend will load for me |
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| [04:42:00] | PatrickDK: | mythfrontend will not load without attaching to a x11 display |
| [04:42:00] | purplefrog: | so use the X11 on your regular video card. |
| [04:42:00] | Teccy: | ok, frustrating one this is |
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| [04:42:00] | PatrickDK: | purplefrog, I try |
| [04:43:00] | PatrickDK: | but it won't let me use X11 on my regular video card and the 350 at the same time |
| [04:43:00] | Chutt: | um |
| [04:43:00] | purplefrog: | So start X11 on the regular video card and NOT on the 350. |
| [04:43:00] | Chutt: | purplefrog, stop trying to help when you don't know what the hell you're talking about. |
| [04:43:00] | Teccy: | gentoo system, emerge of mythtv, i run mythtv-setup, add the db options, then it just closes. if i run it again, i get the 2 "yes/no"s for the card and tuner settings then it just closes |
| [04:43:00] | PatrickDK: | heh :) |
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| [04:43:00] | Teccy: | the console shows an error finding the MythTVMediaCentre theme |
| [04:43:00] | Teccy: | any suggestions anyone? |
| [04:44:00] | Chutt: | don't use the mythtvmediacentre theme? |
| [04:44:00] | Teccy: | i never specified it |
| [04:44:00] | Chutt: | it's certainly not the default theme |
| [04:45:00] | Teccy: | if i remove ~/.mythtv and try again, i get the same sequence of events |
| [04:47:00] | purplefrog: | Oh, magnificent. The Linux-2.4.22-kernel-patch-1.0.tar.gz on the pchdtv.com web site is corrupted. |
| [04:48:00] | Teccy: | ah, nm, i got it |
| [04:48:00] | Teccy: | i'd forgotten to clear out the old myth db from my db server |
| [04:48:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [04:48:00] | SqWaw: | Hey guys, I'm helping a friend build a mythbox, I was wondering about remote's, since I only use a keyboard and mouse, do they have to be coded to the PVR tuner, (wintv 500), or can I just get a ati wonder II and be fine? |
| [04:48:00] | SqWaw: | (22:36:19) (Mrgoose) PatrickDK: yes |
| [04:49:00] | SqWaw: | ignore that second line ^ :( sry |
| [04:49:00] | PatrickDK: | heh |
| [04:49:00] | PatrickDK: | they don't have to be |
| [04:49:00] | PatrickDK: | but if you use a remote witha wintv card, it has to be the one that came with te card |
| [04:49:00] | PatrickDK: | cause the wintv limits it |
| [04:49:00] | SqWaw: | mine doesnt come with a remote, so i thought i could just buy another one |
| [04:50:00] | PatrickDK: | you just need a seperate ir receiver other than the one on the wintv |
| [04:50:00] | SqWaw: | does the 500 support an ir receiver in the first place? i didnt see it mentioned in the specs |
| [04:50:00] | PatrickDK: | ya, any remote, just make a receiver |
| [04:50:00] | PatrickDK: | I don't think so |
| [04:50:00] | SqWaw: | ah okay |
| [04:51:00] | Chutt: | the ati remote wonder ii has its own receiver, i believe. |
| [04:51:00] | SqWaw: | like a pci one? |
| [04:52:00] | Chutt: | try usb. |
| [04:52:00] | SqWaw: | ah, so that'll control my mythbox just fine |
| [04:52:00] | SqWaw: | im looking to stick w/ everything i've already got and just throw in a remote |
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| [04:54:00] | Matt: | hey guys |
| [04:55:00] | djperegrine: | I have a ati_remote wonder |
| [04:55:00] | djperegrine: | most of the keys don't work right :( |
| [04:55:00] | djperegrine: | but I heard of a patch that can get them working, I just couldn't get it to compile |
| [04:55:00] | SqWaw: | dont you have to map them.... ^ |
| [04:55:00] | djperegrine: | um you have to recompile the driver |
| [04:56:00] | SqWaw: | maybe this is what you are speaking of? http://remotew.free.fr/linux_en.htm |
| [04:56:00] | Chutt: | heh, say goodbye to todd bailey on the -users list |
| [04:56:00] | djperegrine: | no |
| [04:56:00] | djperegrine: | but I'll use that :P |
| [04:56:00] | Chutt: | he tried to spam the list with some bigass forwards |
| [04:57:00] | mchou: | ouch |
| [04:57:00] | SqWaw: | hehe i helped someone :) |
| [04:57:00] | mchou: | this dud a random spammer or actually is a myth user? |
| [04:58:00] | Chutt: | supposedly a myth user |
| [04:58:00] | Chutt: | one of the more annoying people on the list |
| [04:58:00] | mchou: | heh |
| [04:58:00] | Chutt: | but, no longer |
| [04:58:00] | Chutt: | well, unless he uses a different address |
| [04:59:00] | Matt: | quick question – what's the quick est and easiest way to launch pydance from mythtv? :&) |
| [05:00:00] | Chutt: | hmm |
| [05:00:00] | mchou: | haha, surely you jest :) |
| [05:00:00] | Matt: | moi? jest? :&) |
| [05:00:00] | Chutt: | admitting you play pydance to 131 other people |
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| [05:00:00] | KaiForce: | quick,easy,free pick one ;) |
| [05:00:00] | Matt: | my other half is DDR nuts |
| [05:01:00] | Matt: | and the xbox is at her place |
| [05:01:00] | mchou: | Chutt: that's hardly the real issue :) |
| [05:01:00] | Chutt: | either use mythgame, or just add it to one of the xml menu files |
| [05:01:00] | Matt: | tried that, and it seems to kill the keyboard |
| [05:01:00] | mchou: | I see random ppl playing DDR at fry's :) |
| [05:01:00] | mchou: | and fry's has a much bigger audience :) |
| [05:01:00] | Chutt: | use a windowmanager |
| [05:02:00] | Matt: | ddr is actually pretty fun, tho I'm pretty crap at it :&) |
| [05:02:00] | Chutt: | since i assume that 'kill the keyboard' means that focus got lost |
| [05:02:00] | Matt: | my fiance is significently better |
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| [05:02:00] | Matt: | I have no idea where focus goes |
| [05:02:00] | purplefrog: | I play Pump at Dave & Buster's every Friday. |
| [05:02:00] | Chutt: | means you need to use a window manager – there's info covering that in the docs |
| [05:03:00] | Matt: | meh, I'll set it up after I rebuild the box |
| [05:03:00] | Matt: | I CBA setting up a wm at this time of night |
| [05:04:00] | mchou: | Matt: you have a dance pad for linux? |
| [05:04:00] | mchou: | I mean one that's not mapped all funky :) |
| [05:04:00] | djperegrine: | SqWaw, where do I put the .Xmodap file? |
| [05:04:00] | Matt: | mchou, well, she has a pair of xbox ones – figured I'd make a usb adaptor and see if it does anything sensible first |
| [05:05:00] | SqWaw: | Beats me :) I havn't even built my mythbox |
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| [05:05:00] | SqWaw: | sorry... |
| [05:05:00] | Matt: | I kinda need to give the box I'm runningmythtv on back to work first :&) |
| [05:05:00] | djperegrine: | no worries |
| [05:06:00] | djperegrine: | oh it says |
| [05:06:00] | Cowman: | hi, I'm having playback issues. everything was working ok before a recent power outage, now when I try to play recordings or watch tv the video is VERY choppy and in the console the message 'prebuffering pause' is repeated over and over |
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| [05:07:00] | purplefrog: | cowman, check your VM status. Maybe you're paging too much. |
| [05:07:00] | Cowman: | you mean the swap? |
| [05:07:00] | purplefrog: | yup. |
| [05:07:00] | Cowman: | 0k used |
| [05:07:00] | Cowman: | I have 512MB of ram... |
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| [05:09:00] | sphing: | has anyone successfully gotten lirc working on the xbox? |
| [05:09:00] | Cowman: | the cpu usage was up to 99% which is way higher than it's ever been before. I enabled the Use libmpeg2 for decoding option and the cpu use dropped to 70–85% but the problem remains and that's still way higher than it used to run |
| [05:09:00] | Cowman: | I checked dma mode on the hard drive, it's enabled.... |
| [05:10:00] | purplefrog: | ps aux | sort +2n ? Maybe there's an extra process (stupid question) |
| [05:10:00] | Chutt: | bios recognizing the cpu as the right speed? |
| [05:10:00] | Cowman: | yup. 1.2ghz which is what it is |
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| [05:11:00] | Cowman: | also tried playing/watching tv from a frontend on another system and it worked fine so it's definitely on this box |
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| [05:12:00] | Cowman: | another sort of glitch I've been seeing... occasionally the size of the text in menus is off. also some of the buttons don't look irght... the lines are sort of skewed |
| [05:15:00] | rtsai: | aahhhhh ... |
| [05:15:00] | Cowman: | I've tried reinstalling, clearing my card & channel settings..... obviously no good |
| [05:15:00] | rtsai: | Cowman: try a different theme |
| [05:16:00] | Cowman: | k |
| [05:17:00] | Cowman: | themes can screw up video playback? |
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| [05:20:00] | idiot: | Is there anything special you have to do to play games in Mythgame? |
| [05:20:00] | idiot: | I scanned for the games, but I only have one. When I go to the games, it has "mame". Then the year. Then the category. But the game isn't listed. |
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| [05:21:00] | Cowman: | I tried 2 different themes, problems are still same |
| [05:22:00] | idiot: | I tried the latest svn version as well as Gentoo's emerge version. Same problems. I don't see how some people aren't having problems. |
| [05:22:00] | rtsai: | Cowman: themes control text size, alignment, etc., and can cause frontend crashes (obviously they shouldn't, but sometimes they do). |
| [05:24:00] | Cowman: | well, in this case that wasn't it :( same skipping and prebuffering pause error on live tv and recordings. something interesting though I can play a DVD and it works fine |
| [05:24:00] | rtsai: | Cowman: sorry, I've got nothing left, then. |
| [05:24:00] | Cowman: | well... it's got to be in myth's video playback. it was working before the power went out and I had to run fsck..... |
| [05:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | idiot: I can likely help you with the svn version, but not with the 0.18.1 version |
| [05:25:00] | idiot: | Anyone at all? Is there some special button I have to hit to show me what games I can play? They're just not there.. snes, mame, anything. |
| [05:25:00] | idiot: | If I add games of a different category, the categories show up. But the actual games never do. Nothing happens when I select the category. |
| [05:25:00] | rtsai: | Cowman: maybe your databases are messed up? Try "mysqlcheck -r" (or something, google for "mysql repair" or something). |
| [05:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | So you have added gameplayers, and pointed each to the proper patch to find the roms, and filled in the file extensions (which you can get away with not doing most fo the time) AND Scanned for the games right ? |
| [05:26:00] | awb4422: | Is there a workaround to get by the apache 2 gig file limit besides upgrading to apache 2.2? |
| [05:27:00] | idiot: | Yep. I've verified that all my paths exist and are readable. When I scan for games, that's when the extra categories that I've added to mame show up. |
| [05:27:00] | rtsai: | awb4422: it shouldn't matter apache1 or apache2. You have to get a version that has large-file support compiled in (or compile it yourself). |
| [05:27:00] | idiot: | It says, "Scanning for games in ..." and then they're there. But the games still aren't. |
| [05:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | idiot: In the mythfrontend console do you see any output? "Found game blah blah" during the scan ? |
| [05:28:00] | awb4422: | rtsai: is there a way i can check that? is that what LFS is? |
| [05:28:00] | rtsai: | awb4422: what version of linux are you running? |
| [05:28:00] | awb4422: | ubuntu hoary |
| [05:29:00] | rtsai: | awb4422: "large file support" is a reasonable guess for LFS, beat's me. |
| [05:29:00] | awb4422: | i dont know if i have it.. |
| [05:29:00] | Teccy: | how do you add "all" channels when you add something to channel editor in mythtvsetup |
| [05:29:00] | awb4422: | need a way to check |
| [05:29:00] | idiot: | Hmm, nope. It says "This version of xmame supports games. Getting the list." |
| [05:29:00] | idiot: | supports 1 games, sorry. |
| [05:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | idiot: That does not sound like the svn version |
| [05:30:00] | idiot: | However, if I drop to a console and run xmame.SDL manually then it plays the game fine. |
| [05:30:00] | Teccy: | i added "aerial" and set UK (alternate) in the source, then went to the console to see what it wanted, and it wants me to enter the name of just one channel |
| [05:30:00] | awb4422: | apache -V doesn't show it, that i know of |
| [05:30:00] | idiot: | It doesn't. I'm using the Gentoo emerge version right now. I was hoping that the fix might still be applicable, since it does the exact same with the svn version. |
| [05:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | idiot: the svn version is drastically different than the last release version |
| [05:31:00] | idiot: | Right, I noticed that it no longer asks for catver, hiscore and the like. So everything is in "unknown" category. |
| [05:31:00] | Teccy: | video sources rather, not channel editor |
| [05:31:00] | idiot: | Documentation on that is kind of scarce at the moment. |
| [05:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | idiot: And the setup of the emulators and config of each is very different |
| [05:32:00] | rtsai: | awb4422: yeah, i don't see a way to query for that setting. |
| [05:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | and scanning is different , etc etc |
| [05:32:00] | idiot: | Alright. So assuming all my paths are correct, is there anything at all else that I need to do? It's alright if roms are in zip format, right? |
| [05:32:00] | djperegrine: | sweeet |
| [05:32:00] | djperegrine: | my remote is useful now |
| [05:32:00] | djperegrine: | this is pretty dope |
| [05:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | idiot: Sure, IF you configured zip as one of the value extensions for that particular emulator/rompath |
| [05:33:00] | idiot: | I would assume that it finds the games, since the game's category shows up after a game scan. And I can play it directly from console from zip format. |
| [05:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | for the release version I don't know as I didn't use it |
| [05:34:00] | rtsai: | awb4422: are you sure apache is the problem (what version)? You can "ls" and see big files and stuff? |
| [05:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | idiot: as I said before, if you are using the svn version I can help ya, using release I wont be of much help |
| [05:34:00] | idiot: | I may go ahead and upgrade to svn just so I can get some help. Are you aware of any drastic improvements that might make it beneficial in other ways to upgrade? |
| [05:35:00] | awb4422: | rtsai – yeah they are fine via ssh |
| [05:35:00] | Chutt: | don't upgrade to svn if you're using dvb. |
| [05:35:00] | awb4422: | i have been in here the past few days, and we've gotten it down to the large file support. |
| [05:35:00] | awb4422: | but people just say google, its out there..but i've been doing it and see people either not answer the question, or say upgrade to 2.2 |
| [05:35:00] | rtsai: | awb4422: so if you "wget" a big file, the Content-Length headers show the correct size? |
| [05:36:00] | awb4422: | let me try |
| [05:36:00] | rtsai: | I'm using apache2.0 on hoary with no problem (with mythweb, i assume you're trying to do this for) |
| [05:36:00] | awb4422: | yeah |
| [05:36:00] | awb4422: | well |
| [05:36:00] | awb4422: | when i clicked on the show thumbnail in mythweb, i would get sent to a broken webpage |
| [05:37:00] | awb4422: | so i just browsed out to a folder where mythlink made the names pretty to dl them |
| [05:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chutt : Can you think of any setting which would cause mythfrontend to not appear to even attempt to use a pvr350's decoder when it's enabled? |
| [05:37:00] | Chutt: | if the ivtv driver wasn't working right |
| [05:37:00] | Chutt: | permissions wrong on the device |
| [05:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | hrm, I'll check the permissions |
| [05:37:00] | Chutt: | the decoder device not existing |
| [05:37:00] | Chutt: | umm |
| [05:37:00] | Chutt: | not trying to play mpeg2.. =) |
| [05:37:00] | rtsai: | awb4422: just set up a simple setup with a bigfile, no symlinks, etc. and see what "wget -s" |
| [05:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [05:38:00] | djperegrine: | damn this is awesome :D |
| [05:38:00] | djperegrine: | I am loving myth :D |
| [05:38:00] | awb4422: | k |
| [05:39:00] | SqWaw: | (23:32:42) (djperegrine) sweeet |
| [05:39:00] | SqWaw: | (23:32:46) (djperegrine) my remote is useful now |
| [05:39:00] | SqWaw: | (23:32:52) (djperegrine) this is pretty dope |
| [05:39:00] | SqWaw: | i <3 me :) |
| [05:39:00] | djperegrine: | haha :P |
| [05:39:00] | SqWaw: | what remote btw |
| [05:39:00] | sphing: | SqWaw: you want to help me with my remote? |
| [05:39:00] | djperegrine: | I would of googled it if I wasn't to lazy |
| [05:39:00] | awb4422: | rtsai: 403 forbidden |
| [05:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Definately mpeg2, decoder is there (I can dd to it on /dev/video18 which I configured in the frontend) and permissions look ok. Nothing in mythfrontend -v playback about the 350 at all |
| [05:40:00] | djperegrine: | sphing all he did was gimme a link :P |
| [05:40:00] | sphing: | SqWaw: /dev/lirc doesn't exist after i load the lirc module |
| [05:40:00] | SqWaw: | if its an ati |
| [05:40:00] | djperegrine: | I already did the hard part |
| [05:40:00] | djperegrine: | well |
| [05:40:00] | djperegrine: | knoppmyth did the hard part for me |
| [05:40:00] | awb4422: | my /video partition is xfs, but the files are symlinked to an ext3 |
| [05:40:00] | SqWaw: | djperegrine: what gfx card and tuner card do you have? |
| [05:41:00] | rtsai: | awb4422: you need to do whatever you need to do to try "wget -s" against apache. Your problem could be in your kernel (sounds like no, if "ls" works fine), apache, PHP, or mythweb |
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| [05:41:00] | Chutt: | greyfoxx, dunno |
| [05:41:00] | djperegrine: | shitty ati ( The tvout doesn't work I am using a moniter) and prv150MCE LP |
| [05:41:00] | Chutt: | greyfoxx, i haven't used a 350 in ages |
| [05:41:00] | rtsai: | awb4422: but i do admit it sounds weird. Large files were a problem years ago maybe, but it shouldn't be causing any problems in this day and age. |
| [05:42:00] | Chutt: | rtsai, they don't show up if you do a directory listing in apache. |
| [05:42:00] | Chutt: | i'd _think_ it'd be apache's fault :p |
| [05:42:00] | SqWaw: | prv150MCE LP <-- not hauppauge, right? |
| [05:42:00] | djperegrine: | yea it si |
| [05:42:00] | djperegrine: | *is |
| [05:42:00] | Chutt: | and it's been an issue with apache before, so... |
| [05:43:00] | SqWaw: | it supports a remote then :) |
| [05:43:00] | SqWaw: | i wanna use a remote w/ the 500 im getting |
| [05:43:00] | djperegrine: | yes |
| [05:43:00] | djperegrine: | but I odn't have one |
| [05:43:00] | djperegrine: | the MCE verison doesn't come with one |
| [05:43:00] | SqWaw: | yea |
| [05:43:00] | SqWaw: | i got the 500MCE |
| [05:43:00] | djperegrine: | plus the ati remote is pretty nice and juicy |
| [05:43:00] | SqWaw: | so i'll just purchase the ati remote wonder pack |
| [05:44:00] | djperegrine: | don't get a ati card |
| [05:44:00] | djperegrine: | get a cheap nvidia video card |
| [05:44:00] | SqWaw: | oh no, not the card |
| [05:44:00] | djperegrine: | the ati drivers are horrible the tvout doesn't work at all |
| [05:44:00] | SqWaw: | i already got a nice card |
| [05:44:00] | djperegrine: | oh ok |
| [05:44:00] | SqWaw: | just the remote :) |
| [05:44:00] | djperegrine: | I got the ati remote wonder for like 15 bucks from newegg |
| [05:45:00] | SqWaw: | djperegrine: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16880100402 |
| [05:45:00] | SqWaw: | that is what im getting ^ |
| [05:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Wierd, I restarted mythfrontend for the 10th time and it worked. I have gremlins or something in here |
| [05:46:00] | djperegrine: | seemsl ike a rip but ok |
| [05:46:00] | djperegrine: | I odn't think the II version works as easily to |
| [05:46:00] | SqWaw: | no? |
| [05:46:00] | djperegrine: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16880100401 |
| [05:46:00] | Mrgoose: | my packard bell cheapo remote works great |
| [05:46:00] | djperegrine: | thats what I got |
| [05:46:00] | Mrgoose: | and was like $11 |
| [05:47:00] | SqWaw: | the 1 version is like... $9.50 more |
| [05:47:00] | djperegrine: | yea you don't need to spend that much |
| [05:47:00] | djperegrine: | no |
| [05:47:00] | djperegrine: | 9.50 less |
| [05:47:00] | SqWaw: | yea that whats i meant :) |
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| [05:49:00] | SqWaw: | rofl, ur the goose from htb |
| [05:49:00] | SqWaw: | lol |
| [05:49:00] | rtsai: | awb4422: well i'll be. The reason it works for me is because I'm runing ubuntu hoary on amd64. It looks like you're running 32-bit linux, in which case you'll have to go to apache 2.1 or 2.2 |
| [05:50:00] | awb4422: | lol |
| [05:50:00] | awb4422: | k |
| [05:50:00] | rtsai: | awb4422: this is a known issue |
| [05:50:00] | awb4422: | ya thought there was a workaround for 32bit |
| [05:50:00] | rtsai: | awb4422: well, i found it on the web so it must be true: http://www.issociate.de/board/post/209294/Apa . . . e_limit.html |
| [05:51:00] | awb4422: | breezy only has 2.0.54–4 |
| [05:51:00] | awb4422: | hrm |
| [05:52:00] | rtsai: | 2.0.54 is the latest version, so no surprise there |
| [05:52:00] | rtsai: | maybe someone's packaged 2.1 for breezy |
| [05:52:00] | awb4422: | ya so i guess im SOL for a while |
| [05:52:00] | rtsai: | just buildityourself |
| [05:55:00] | awb4422: | argh this could all be avoided if i could just get my damn pvr-350 tvout to work lol |
| [05:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just set that up like 3 minutes ago. And so far I'm not that impressed. Not enough to keep using it |
| [05:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | looks good, with no interlacing effects, but not noticably better than my regular stuff |
| [05:56:00] | awb4422: | what OS GreyFoxx |
| [05:56:00] | awb4422: | er distro |
| [05:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | Slackware |
| [05:57:00] | awb4422: | what version of ivtv? |
| [05:57:00] | djperegrine: | I was messing with settings for 2 days after releasing my cable was in the wrong plug |
| [05:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | at this very second 0.2.0rc3k I believe, though I also used 0.3.7i a moment ago |
| [05:57:00] | djperegrine: | so awb4422, check that :P |
| [05:58:00] | awb4422: | GreyFoxx: so you have tv-out working on 0.2.0rc3k? |
| [05:58:00] | awb4422: | I'll be doing it over s-video |
| [05:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | awb4422: I'm watching a show right this moment on it |
| [05:59:00] | awb4422: | cool |
| [05:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | It worked fine with 0.3.7i too |
| [05:59:00] | swim-zz: | hey folks, have my knoppmyth installed recently, and trying to watch tv, (i use an plain antenna no cable) and i see static but no picture on anything, not even on channel 3 that where i have composite from vcr coming into my pvr 150 |
| [05:59:00] | awb4422: | why'd you switch back? |
| [05:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | awb4422: I'm just testing out both, no particular reason |
| [06:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use 0.2.0 usually since I normally don't have a 350 and it's stable with my other cards |
| [06:00:00] | awb4422: | cool maybe i will rebuild my box, i think i hosed it now |
| [06:00:00] | djperegrine: | swim-zz, is it color static or black and white ? |
| [06:00:00] | purplefrog: | ivtv 0.2.0 doesn't compile with the 2.6 kernel I tried. |
| [06:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | next I wanna setup the xv output |
| [06:01:00] | swim-zz: | djperegrine, maybe a little color... but no picture i can make out at all |
| [06:01:00] | swim-zz: | there are definitley some colored lines in the midst of the static |
| [06:01:00] | djperegrine: | yea |
| [06:02:00] | djperegrine: | get ivtv 0.3.7c |
| [06:02:00] | swim-zz: | me? |
| [06:02:00] | djperegrine: | 0.2 doesn't support pvr 150 |
| [06:02:00] | djperegrine: | yea |
| [06:02:00] | swim-zz: | ok |
| [06:02:00] | djperegrine: | and make sure the antenna is in the right place |
| [06:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Actually a lot of the 150 support was suppose to have been backported to 0.2.x |
| [06:02:00] | djperegrine: | oh really? |
| [06:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [06:02:00] | djperegrine: | my bad |
| [06:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | not that I have a150 to test it though |
| [06:02:00] | swim-zz: | i think knoppmyth either has a script, or it has it in src |
| [06:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | so it might not work |
| [06:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | cd /etc/rc.d |
| [06:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
| [06:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [06:04:00] | swim-zz: | hmm? |
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| [06:04:00] | purplefrog: | Hmm, the sourceforge site only has ivtv-0.3.3*, not 0.3.7. |
| [06:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | www.ivtv.tv |
| [06:05:00] | djperegrine: | well that could work to |
| [06:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | the sourceforge site is barely ever touched |
| [06:05:00] | djperegrine: | I am using 0.3.7 |
| [06:05:00] | djperegrine: | with regular cable seems to work |
| [06:05:00] | djperegrine: | before you do anything |
| [06:05:00] | swim-zz: | should i just follow this: http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=Haupp . . . Installation |
| [06:06:00] | fangji: | help how to change Leadtek TV2000XP expert from card=5 to card=34? |
| [06:06:00] | djperegrine: | http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=H . . . Installation |
| [06:06:00] | djperegrine: | haha |
| [06:06:00] | djperegrine: | thats what I was looking up :D |
| [06:06:00] | fangji: | help! how to change Leadtek TV2000XP expert from card=5 to card=34? |
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| [06:06:00] | Agrajag-: | fangji: modprobe bttv card=34 |
| [06:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, I don't know what it is, but anytime I try a Nvidia driver greater than 6629 it seems to barf anytime xv is used. and the version I have doesn't compile under the new kernel I just popped in :) |
| [06:06:00] | swim-zz: | i guess ill take that as a yes? :) |
| [06:07:00] | Agrajag-: | fangji: have you even tried loading the bttv instead of cx8800 (or whatever) module you were loading? |
| [06:07:00] | fangji: | Agrajag-, I get "FATAL:Module bttv not found." |
| [06:08:00] | fangji: | Agrajag-, I can modprobe cx8800, but I get "Card=5" |
| [06:09:00] | Agrajag-: | well my card, and all leadtek winfast tv200xp's that i've heard of, are bttv based |
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| [06:09:00] | Agrajag-: | so you need that module instead |
| [06:10:00] | fangji: | how can I install bttv module? |
| [06:10:00] | Agrajag-: | what distro? |
| [06:10:00] | fangji: | Gentoo |
| [06:10:00] | Agrajag-: | no idea gentoo sucks |
| [06:10:00] | Agrajag-: | lol |
| [06:10:00] | Agrajag-: | nah i dunno google.com |
| [06:11:00] | djperegrine: | emerge bttv ? |
| [06:11:00] | Agrajag-: | ^^ try that |
| [06:12:00] | fangji: | emerge:there are no ebuilds to satisfy "bttv". |
| [06:12:00] | fangji: | does bttv in kernel? |
| [06:13:00] | Agrajag-: | it's a kernel module |
| [06:13:00] | Agrajag-: | part of v4l |
| [06:14:00] | fangji: | where can I download bttv source |
| [06:14:00] | purplefrog: | bttv is in the stock 2.6.12 kernel I think. |
| [06:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | yay, found and fixed my nvidia driver issue. I can watch stuff again |
| [06:16:00] | fangji: | in my /etc/module.conf, I can find a line "alias char-major-81 bttv"? but why can't find bttv module? |
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| [06:16:00] | purplefrog: | Because you didn't enable the option in your kernel config. |
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| [06:19:00] | mikey2600: | anyone have any experience with getting MythTV to 'tune' to multicast streams instead of a PVR or TV card? |
| [06:19:00] | mikey2600: | TV is delivered only over IP where i live :S (good and bad...) |
| [06:19:00] | purplefrog: | Heh, capturing MPEG transport streams is my day job. |
| [06:20:00] | mikey2600: | =) |
| [06:20:00] | purplefrog: | I don't think MythTV has any code to do that. |
| [06:20:00] | fangji: | I have already select Mutimedia devices--><*> Video For Linux & Video For Linux ---><M>Conexant 2388X(bt878 successor) support |
| [06:20:00] | swim-zz: | is anyone running on a pvr 150, i cant stand that knoppmyth wiki page on the 150 installation, its got so many different comments/solutions/fixes/whatever that i can never make end to end of the thing and just end up getting confused |
| [06:21:00] | purplefrog: | fangji: you did a "make modules_install" ? is the bttv.o in your /lib/*kernel*version/ tree somewhere? |
| [06:21:00] | mikey2600: | Its gonna suck going from multicast to settop box back into a PVR card just so it can be MPEG again. |
| [06:22:00] | purplefrog: | mikey2600: theoretically, you could just do a raw packet capture. I think mplayer can handle transport streams. |
| [06:22:00] | purplefrog: | That robs you of scheduling and the database support of mythtv. |
| [06:23:00] | Chutt: | mythtv doesn't handle transport streams? |
| [06:23:00] | mikey2600: | Yes true, but then I lose the connectivity between video source and MythTV frontend--changing channels, recording at particular times, etc. Currently I can join multicast stream with VLC or mplayer like you said, but pipeing that into MythTV backend is my ultimate goal. |
| [06:23:00] | Chutt: | that's strange |
| [06:23:00] | purplefrog: | If anyone ever feels like adding code to MythTV to harvest a transport stream from an ethernet card instead of a Hauppauge card, scribble down my name. I can help with technical advice. |
| [06:24:00] | purplefrog: | In case you can't decipher ISO 13818–1 on your own. |
| [06:25:00] | Chutt: | myth plays transport streams just fine |
| [06:25:00] | fangji: | I do "make modules_install", but in /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/ can't find bttv |
| [06:25:00] | Chutt: | it is, in fact, the default recording format for atsc + dvb capture cards. |
| [06:25:00] | mikey2600: | It seems much more efficient than all this encoding business :P Its already all encoded for me, just snag it off the network. And...maybe I'm missing something here...but recording (storing stream data) multiple "channels" would be a helluva lot easier and less resource intensive than encoding. |
| [06:25:00] | fangji: | I do "make modules_install", but in /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/ can't find bttv, no bttv.o or bttv.ko |
| [06:25:00] | purplefrog: | You are correct, mikey2600. And it''s bedtime. |
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| [06:26:00] | mikey2600: | Dang he wasnt kidding -- |
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| [06:27:00] | mikey2600: | Anyone else live somewhere that IPTV is theee video/cable system? |
| [06:28:00] | fangji: | and I can't load lirc_gpio for winfast tv2000xp expert. |
| [06:29:00] | fangji: | bttv in which module in kernel? |
| [06:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh well, so much for solving this host resolution issue tonight |
| [06:30:00] | fangji: | do I need add "BT848 Video For Linux"? |
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| [06:32:00] | Agrajag-: | yes fangji |
| [06:32:00] | Agrajag-: | you'll need that to be working for the lirc_gpio module to work |
| [06:34:00] | fangji: | Agrajag-, so in "Video For Linux" I should add "<M> BT848 Video For Linux" and <M>Conexant 2388x (bt878 successor) support, right? |
| [06:35:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah |
| [06:35:00] | Agrajag-: | wait |
| [06:36:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm yeah try that.. i haven't got 2.6.12 so i dunno for sure |
| [06:36:00] | sphing: | anyone know why update-modules gives not found for every alias |
| [06:36:00] | Agrajag-: | check the 'help' for the "<M> BT848 Video For Linux" and see if it tells you that it provides bt8xx (most likely does) |
| [06:39:00] | fangji: | It said "support for bt848 based fram grabber/overlay boards.....to compile this driver as a module, choose M here:the module will be called bttv." |
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| [06:42:00] | fangji: | Agraja-, Help said "support for bt848 based fram grabber/overlay boards.....to compile this driver as a module, choose M here:the module will be called bttv." so it will creat bttv module? |
| [06:43:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [06:44:00] | Agrajag-: | (did you read that? it clearly says "the module will be called bttv") |
| [06:46:00] | fangji: | I'll try, this module I never built. thanks Agrajag, Maybe I can use my remote control. |
| [06:46:00] | Agrajag-: | you should be able to.. mine works fine |
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| [06:52:00] | fangji: | Agrajag-, another question,for my remote control, does I need enable "Input device support--> < >Event interface"? |
| [06:53:00] | Agrajag-: | no idea |
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| [06:53:00] | Agrajag-: | i just checked my config and i have that as a module |
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| [06:54:00] | Agrajag-: | and i have evdev loaded (which that provides). don't know if it's doing anything for me though |
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| [06:57:00] | fangji: | ok, do you have event? in /dev/input/ directory, I haven't event? file in that dir |
| [06:57:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah i have /dev/input/eventX |
| [06:58:00] | Agrajag-: | (that's what evdev provides) |
| [06:59:00] | fangji: | then I need enable "Event interface", lirc said should have this file. |
| [07:00:00] | fangji: | Agrajag-, Event interface is built in ,or bulit module? |
| [07:00:00] | Agrajag-: | module |
| [07:00:00] | Agrajag-: | called evdev |
| [07:02:00] | Chutt: | cardoe, following the ivtv list? |
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| [07:06:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: I'm subscribed |
| [07:06:00] | Cardoe: | haven't read it for like 2 days |
| [07:06:00] | Cardoe: | I'll go read |
| [07:06:00] | Chutt: | you saw hans is trying to muscle in and take over maintaining the thing? |
| [07:07:00] | Cardoe: | I figured that was coming |
| [07:07:00] | Cardoe: | I saw that when he started doing his own releases |
| [07:07:00] | Chutt: | and he's pushing those lameass duplicate modules back into v4l =) |
| [07:07:00] | Cardoe: | Good |
| [07:08:00] | Cardoe: | that's what needs to happen |
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| [07:08:00] | Chutt: | _and_ it looks like axel's going to host it (with svn + trac) on ivtvdriver.org |
| [07:08:00] | Chutt: | i offered mythtv.org if hans wanted space, but axel had stuff already mostly setup for them |
| [07:09:00] | Cardoe: | Thank god. |
| [07:09:00] | xris: | THAT's going to make warren togami really happy. |
| [07:09:00] | xris: | (not) |
| [07:10:00] | SqWaw: | how does commercial skip feature work? |
| [07:10:00] | xris: | fedora's been trying to get rid of atrpms for awhile. |
| [07:10:00] | Chutt: | cardoe, all cuz i started bitching about the modules =) |
| [07:10:00] | Chutt: | at least it got hans talking about stuff |
| [07:11:00] | Agrajag-: | SqWaw: searches for blank frames, timing, logo detection |
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| [07:11:00] | SqWaw: | logo detection.. wow, leet-o |
| [07:11:00] | Chutt: | i need to fix 4 more bugs, then xris has the most open tickets |
| [07:12:00] | Agrajag-: | hey i remember a while ago someone mentioned doing volume detection stuff for ads, has anyone done anythinga bout that? |
| [07:12:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [07:12:00] | xris: | Chutt: and it'll probably stay that way for awhile. heh. |
| [07:12:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: I e-mailed him to encourage him |
| [07:12:00] | Agrajag-: | that'd work well for .au for sure.. no idea if other countries have that extremely annoying 'feature' |
| [07:12:00] | xris: | but getting closer to having my wiki at a usable place, then can focus on the major mythweb upgrade. |
| [07:12:00] | Cardoe: | I've been swamped with Gentoo stuff. |
| [07:12:00] | Cardoe: | and Freedesktop.org stuff |
| [07:12:00] | Cardoe: | been working on the new modular X |
| [07:12:00] | xris: | (plus, we got some cool css/javascript books at work so I can bug kormoc to help me with the redesign) |
| [07:13:00] | Chutt: | finally got glxinfo back in breezy the other day |
| [07:13:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [07:13:00] | Cardoe: | I brought it back to Gentoo the other day |
| [07:13:00] | Chutt: | and most all the other xbase-clients stuff |
| [07:13:00] | Cardoe: | Me and the Ubuntu guys had to kick the Redhat people in the face. |
| [07:13:00] | Cardoe: | Because they kept saying "No you're doing it wrong. Do it how Redhat does it." |
| [07:14:00] | Cardoe: | When it was quite obvious Redhat was doing some stuff wrong |
| [07:14:00] | Cardoe: | Nice bug on FD.o that turned into one Ubuntu dev flaming a Redhat dev. |
| [07:14:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [07:14:00] | Cardoe: | it was funny, till they deleted it |
| [07:15:00] | Cardoe: | I think the SVN code looks a lot better on the new X |
| [07:15:00] | Cardoe: | don't really know what it is and why. |
| [07:16:00] | Cardoe: | It's like one of those things you see |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | what svn code where? |
| [07:16:00] | Cardoe: | MythTV SVN |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | for video output? |
| [07:16:00] | Cardoe: | on my TV |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | the general ui, then? |
| [07:16:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | weird |
| [07:16:00] | Cardoe: | it just looks better |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | that's not changed in ages |
| [07:16:00] | Cardoe: | the previous looks a little sharper |
| [07:17:00] | Cardoe: | well the same SVN snapshot |
| [07:17:00] | Cardoe: | and I rebooted the box with the new X |
| [07:17:00] | Cardoe: | and it looked a little better |
| [07:17:00] | Chutt: | render improvements, possibly |
| [07:17:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [07:17:00] | Chutt: | since qt uses gobs of it |
| [07:17:00] | Chutt: | oh, hey, which gentoo wiki is it that has people turning on renderaccel for nvidia cards? |
| [07:17:00] | Chutt: | i've gotta get that changed sometime |
| [07:18:00] | Cardoe: | I need to finish my install doc |
| [07:18:00] | Cardoe: | and rm -rf that wiki page |
| [07:18:00] | Cardoe: | I'll change it back |
| [07:18:00] | Cardoe: | People keep posting on there "Cardoe's wrong... do this..." |
| [07:18:00] | Cardoe: | and then everyone listens |
| [07:18:00] | Cardoe: | and I get 15 bugs on Bugzilla assigned to me |
| [07:18:00] | Chutt: | it's horribly unstable, and i can tell exactly who's using that doc |
| [07:18:00] | Chutt: | because they bitch about X freezing on them |
| [07:18:00] | Cardoe: | yep |
| [07:20:00] | Cardoe: | everytime I look at it |
| [07:20:00] | Cardoe: | there's a stupid change |
| [07:20:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [07:20:00] | Chutt: | that's why i dislike wikis =) |
| [07:20:00] | Cardoe: | Note: You must have gtk & gtk2 in your USE flag settings. |
| [07:20:00] | Chutt: | hah, what for? |
| [07:20:00] | Cardoe: | apparently gtk 1.x and gtk 2.x support is needed. |
| [07:20:00] | ** Cardoe sighs. ** | |
| [07:21:00] | Cardoe: | Linux requires OSS and not ALSA |
| [07:21:00] | Cardoe: | Oh apparently you need to bring in kde as well now |
| [07:22:00] | Chutt: | well, you do if you want mythbrowser |
| [07:22:00] | Chutt: | but that's almost nobody |
| [07:22:00] | Cardoe: | ah yes |
| [07:22:00] | Cardoe: | emerge config-kernel |
| [07:22:00] | Cardoe: | and use that |
| [07:22:00] | Cardoe: | even though it's not in the tree |
| [07:23:00] | Cardoe: | so the guy has a copy on his own website |
| [07:23:00] | Cardoe: | and says to use that |
| [07:23:00] | Chutt: | haha |
| [07:23:00] | Cardoe: | config-kernel was used in pre-2.6.6 kernels that didn't support building modules outside of the tree. |
| [07:24:00] | Chutt: | there's going to be a mediawiki instance at wiki.mythtv.org if you want to use that for 'official' docs |
| [07:24:00] | Chutt: | well, it's already there, the guys are just taking ages to transfer the crap over from www.mythtv.info |
| [07:24:00] | Cardoe: | Alright |
| [07:25:00] | Cardoe: | Isn't there a way with Media Wiki to kind of lock an article a little bit? |
| [07:25:00] | Chutt: | no idea |
| [07:25:00] | Chutt: | i just installed this cuz that's what i was told to use |
| [07:25:00] | Cardoe: | yeah it's a good one |
| [07:25:00] | Cardoe: | haven't really messed with it |
| [07:26:00] | Cardoe: | So the lircrc files that come with the MythTV distro get installed somewhere in /usr/share/mythtv... forget exactly where. |
| [07:26:00] | Cardoe: | but rather then point to the directory where they're kept |
| [07:26:00] | Cardoe: | let's just include their text in the entire body of the wiki post |
| [07:26:00] | Chutt: | that's always good |
| [07:26:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [07:27:00] | SqWaw: | xris: if you need webspace... sql db, etc... |
| [07:27:00] | SqWaw: | i can help |
| [07:27:00] | Cardoe: | I get tired of cleaning that doc. |
| [07:27:00] | Chutt: | the newest sql db patch is slightly better |
| [07:27:00] | Chutt: | it doesn't break nearly as much crap |
| [07:28:00] | Chutt: | well |
| [07:28:00] | Chutt: | aside from the places where he didn't even bother resolving conflicts when he updated svn |
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| [07:29:00] | xris: | SqWaw: huh? |
| [07:29:00] | Cardoe: | his code still needs to get scrubbed |
| [07:29:00] | Cardoe: | Maybe this weekend under hurricane lock down I'll do it |
| [07:30:00] | Chutt: | DBHelper::getInstance()->dbGetYear("year") |
| [07:30:00] | Chutt: | be nice to make that junk shorter |
| [07:31:00] | Nickee: | does anyone have a prefrence when converting avi --> SVCD / DVD which one is best? |
| [07:31:00] | Nickee: | if the avi is mid quality is it worth it puting it in a high quality format? |
| [07:32:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: He learned a little bit from some of my comments. |
| [07:32:00] | Chutt: | he at least made it proper classes |
| [07:32:00] | Cardoe: | but didn't grasp the full idea. |
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| [08:24:00] | fangji: | Agrajag-, I can't load lirc_gpio. dmesg: "lirc_gpio (-1): could not get card type" the card always "card=5"" |
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| [08:41:00] | armbothism: | which amd64 linux distro is the simplest/best to install mythtv under? |
| [08:42:00] | armbothism: | from what i can tell you basically have fedora, gentoo, debian or ubuntu |
| [08:43:00] | ** Cardoe knows who he'd vote for. ** | |
| [08:47:00] | Agrajag-: | fangji: have you managed to load the bttv module yet? |
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| [08:47:00] | ** Agrajag- votes for debian ** | |
| [08:50:00] | fangji: | yeh, bttv:driver version 0.9.15 loaded, bttv: using 8 buffers with 1080k each for capture |
| [08:50:00] | Agrajag-: | and bttv tells you card=5 ? |
| [08:50:00] | fangji: | The bttv_* interface is obsoletc and will go away |
| [08:50:00] | fangji: | bttv tell me noting |
| [08:51:00] | Agrajag-: | well what told you it was card=5? |
| [08:51:00] | fangji: | cx8810 |
| [08:53:00] | fangji: | I try modprobe bttv card=34, but noting happend |
| [08:53:00] | Agrajag-: | what do you mean nothing happened? |
| [08:54:00] | Agrajag-: | look.. unload the cx8810 module, it's not what you want. load the bttv module. try loading it without card=34, it should autodetect it |
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| [09:03:00] | fangji: | modprobe bttv , in dmesg only get "bttv:driver version 0.9.15 load, bttv:using 8 buffers with 2080k each for capture" |
| [09:04:00] | Agrajag-: | ok i dunno.. sounds like you have some whack card |
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| [09:07:00] | fangji: | I ever use cx8800 with tvtime-scaner scaner some frequency, but when I use tvtime ,it crash my system |
| [09:08:00] | Atamido: | The Asterisk system I just set up has 2GB or RAM and a RAID controller card with 256MB of RAM. |
| [09:08:00] | Atamido: | The total space used on the harddrive is only 230MB. |
| [09:08:00] | Atamido: | The entire of the used HD space can fit in the controllers cache. |
| [09:08:00] | Atamido: | The system had better never pause to access the harddrive. |
| [09:09:00] | Agrajag-: | heh |
| [09:10:00] | Atamido: | 10K RPM SCSI HDs in a RAID 1 shouldn't offer to much of a delay though. |
| [09:11:00] | Atamido: | Should even need to physically access the harddrive to read a library more than once? |
| [09:12:00] | Agrajag-: | no idea |
| [09:14:00] | Atamido: | Is there a way to force MythTV to keep the core components cached so that there is no delay when jumping out of recordings or LiveTV? |
| [09:14:00] | Agrajag-: | i dont think myth has control over that |
| [09:15:00] | Agrajag-: | especially since you're reading gigs of data from the hdd when watching anything |
| [09:15:00] | mchou: | exactly :) |
| [09:16:00] | mchou: | well, maybe MB, but same diff :) |
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| [09:17:00] | mchou: | sigh, my friend just spent US $2 Million to buy a house. |
| [09:18:00] | Agrajag-: | where? |
| [09:19:00] | mchou: | San Francisco bay area. 4 bedroom 2.5 bath |
| [09:19:00] | FITH: | Could he spare a little for a poor sap without a Ferrari 612 Scaglietti? |
| [09:19:00] | FITH: | lol |
| [09:20:00] | mchou: | nope. he wont be able to eat out now :) |
| [09:20:00] | Agrajag-: | haha |
| [09:20:00] | mchou: | gotta watch those peenies carefully :) |
| [09:20:00] | FITH: | Whoa... I almost felt sympathy for a nanosecond. |
| [09:20:00] | mchou: | pennies* |
| [09:20:00] | FITH: | :) |
| [09:21:00] | mchou: | in actuality it's the bank's money. |
| [09:22:00] | mchou: | but he gets to leverage it. |
| [09:23:00] | FITH: | Sounds like quite the deal :) Is he a geek (hey is this a sign of the next bubble?) or should I keep planning on just scraping by for a while? |
| [09:23:00] | mchou: | he is a geek, but I hardly see what that has to do with price of houses :) |
| [09:23:00] | mchou: | it's not like he works for google :) |
| [09:24:00] | SqWaw: | ford gt43, yea please. |
| [09:24:00] | SqWaw: | http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/wallpaper/fordgt/gulf/GT43.jpg |
| [09:24:00] | FITH: | Oh no, but the fact that a geek (and a non-google working geek at that!) can afford a house like that gives me some hope... |
| [09:24:00] | mchou: | if he worked there, he can afford to eat out and then some :) |
| [09:25:00] | mchou: | FITH: $1M in SF bay area gets you a "starter" home. |
| [09:25:00] | mchou: | so keep on saving, maybe you'll catch up to the market :) |
| [09:26:00] | FITH: | Yeah, but he can afford to live there... I'm assuming the jobs don't pay 10 times as much down there? (I'm up in Edmonton, Alberta :) |
| [09:26:00] | mchou: | but more likely the housing market will run away faster than you can save. :) |
| [09:26:00] | FITH: | Hehe |
| [09:26:00] | mchou: | FITH: ooh, I have another friend who is moving to Edmonton in a yr. or so |
| [09:27:00] | mchou: | $300K Edmonton==$1.2M Bay area :) |
| [09:27:00] | FITH: | I'm always amazed people find a reason to move up here :) |
| [09:27:00] | mchou: | FITH: he is going to be a professor :) |
| [09:28:00] | mchou: | not too many of those jobs around, you know? |
| [09:28:00] | FITH: | Yeah, that sounds about right... $300k will get you a pretty nice, 2500sq.ft.-ish house up here... Well built, new, etc |
| [09:29:00] | mchou: | FITH: you get 6 months of winter up there or is that an exaggeration? |
| [09:29:00] | FITH: | Ah, the U of Eh is a good school... Worked there for 7 years as a BOFH. The Non-acedemic side isn't all that great to work for but teaching there would be alright (if you're into that sort of thing :) |
| [09:29:00] | mchou: | FITH: what's a BOFH? |
| [09:29:00] | FITH: | Uh, depends on what you call winter :) We don't have snow for all of 6 months straight, but you get the possibility of it for at least 6, and it's pretty cold for most of it |
| [09:30:00] | FITH: | Heh, Bastard Operator from Hell... A sysadmin with an attitude :) |
| [09:30:00] | FITH: | The coldest days in winter are around -35C and it'll stay below -25C for weeks at a time... |
| [09:30:00] | FITH: | Depends on the year... |
| [09:31:00] | mchou: | heh, at least you guys can go to banff :) |
| [09:31:00] | FITH: | Bah, Banff is overrated, Jasper has as good of skiing, and less tourists :) |
| [09:31:00] | mchou: | this professor guy is even thinking of buying a winter cottage :) |
| [09:32:00] | FITH: | Winter cottage? Does he like to hunt? |
| [09:32:00] | mchou: | no, for skiing :) |
| [09:32:00] | FITH: | People buy cottages for the summer up here.... You aren't likely to get far into the back 40 in the winter up here |
| [09:32:00] | FITH: | Ohhh, okay :) |
| [09:33:00] | FITH: | That'd be nice... For those you're looking more at Bay Area pricing... at least if you're down near banff. |
| [09:33:00] | mchou: | How far is jasper from Edmonton? like 3hrs on a sunny day, right? |
| [09:33:00] | FITH: | You can't actually build or easily buy much inside Banff itself but you can get places just outside the parks |
| [09:33:00] | FITH: | Yeah, give or take (heck it's 3 hours in the dead of winter too once you're used to the driving :-) |
| [09:34:00] | FITH: | Banff is more like 5 |
| [09:34:00] | mchou: | FITH: the roads arent icy? |
| [09:34:00] | mchou: | meaning you gotta drive slower in winter.....? |
| [09:35:00] | mchou: | not to mention car accident back ups and whatnot? |
| [09:35:00] | FITH: | Oh heck yeah, but a) hopefully you have winter tires b) on the highways there isn't a lot to hit, or sharp corners, so you just go |
| [09:36:00] | FITH: | Nah, the odd person will go into the ditch on bad days, and in storms, but we don't have enough traffic to cause big traffic jams between edmonton and Jasper :) |
| [09:36:00] | FITH: | I mean there's cars on the road, but it's not like going from San Jose to San Fran in rush hour :) |
| [09:36:00] | mchou: | FITH: nah, that's a parking lot :) |
| [09:37:00] | FITH: | Exactly! (Heh, I was born in Toronto, and highway 401 down there is a pretty good comparison) |
| [09:38:00] | mchou: | somehow a helicopter ride from edmonton to jasper sounds much safer :) |
| [09:39:00] | mchou: | in winter at least |
| [09:39:00] | FITH: | Nah, after the first winter you get used to the roads. Heck, I drive a Honda S2000 (RWD, 2 seater) out to the parks in the winter :) |
| [09:39:00] | mchou: | there is a town in Hinton just north of jasper that has a heliport..... |
| [09:40:00] | FITH: | Yeah, there's a strip (and I'm assuming a helipad) in Jasper too |
| [09:40:00] | FITH: | Err.. not sure if that's open to the public anymore... The shut down a lot of stuff in the parks to keep the people from wrecking it |
| [09:40:00] | mchou: | FITH: that one is dangeeous |
| [09:40:00] | mchou: | it's in a valley. |
| [09:41:00] | FITH: | What the power lines, the trainline, the forest on all sides? |
| [09:41:00] | FITH: | Yeah, that too :) |
| [09:41:00] | mchou: | I can't ever climb out of it in MS Flight simulator :) |
| [09:41:00] | mchou: | stall and hit the mountains all the time :) |
| [09:42:00] | FITH: | Oh man I need to grab a copy of that again... haven't flown it in years... |
| [09:42:00] | FITH: | Anyways, gotta run! TTYL! |
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| [10:13:00] | veritanuda: | Morning All.. |
| [10:14:00] | veritanuda: | Seen a few people mention this but not real solution. Compiling 0.18 and I get ../../libs/libmyth/libmyth-0.18.1.so: undefined reference to `ScreenSaverX11::ScreenSaverX11()' |
| [10:14:00] | veritanuda: | Far as I can tell all the xlibs are installed so is this a qt issue or some obscure problem? |
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| [10:27:00] | geoff__998e: | has anyone succesfully used the internal dvd playback on a mac frontend? |
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| [10:38:00] | thechris: | on my tv schedule, all the listings are 6 hours late |
| [10:38:00] | thechris: | any fix? |
| [10:43:00] | geoff__998e: | there is a time offset setting |
| [10:43:00] | geoff__998e: | also check the clock on your com |
| [10:43:00] | geoff__998e: | p |
| [10:44:00] | thechris: | looking into the time offset |
| [10:44:00] | veritanuda: | Anyone come across my build problem? |
| [10:44:00] | thechris: | adjusting it by 6hours seems to have adjusted the other thing by 2hours |
| [10:44:00] | geoff__998e: | the other thing? |
| [10:44:00] | veritanuda: | Not using a amd64 MSI MB are you? ;) |
| [10:46:00] | thechris: | hmm, i was wrong |
| [10:47:00] | thechris: | it seems the xmltv time offset does not affect the zap2it stuff... |
| [10:47:00] | thechris: | all the shows are 5hours off... |
| [10:47:00] | geoff__998e: | what is the timezone set to? |
| [10:48:00] | geoff__998e: | because myth honors time zones |
| [10:49:00] | thechris: | hmm. i may not have set that... |
| [10:49:00] | geoff__998e: | what distro are you? |
| [10:49:00] | geoff__998e: | on debian, it is tzconfig |
| [10:49:00] | geoff__998e: | not sure about others |
| [10:50:00] | laga: | on others, it is ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Berlin /etc/localtime |
| [10:50:00] | laga: | at least, for gentoo. ;) |
| [10:50:00] | thechris: | yeah, i usually set it to GMT. |
| [10:51:00] | geoff__998e: | that is probably your problem |
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| [10:51:00] | thechris: | hmm. i just set it to central |
| [10:51:00] | thechris: | and no difference |
| [10:52:00] | geoff__998e: | you probably have to re run mythfilldatabase |
| [10:52:00] | geoff__998e: | and restart the backend |
| [10:52:00] | The_Ball: | when viewing tv in a window, is it possible to toggle window/fullscreen mode? |
| [10:52:00] | thechris: | its great. i just recorded 3 infomercials... |
| [10:53:00] | geoff__998e: | ouch |
| [10:53:00] | thechris: | ok, that fixed it |
| [10:54:00] | geoff__998e: | all better? |
| [10:55:00] | thechris: | yeah it works now |
| [10:56:00] | thechris: | and i recorded the solution on my local wiki, so i remeber this... |
| [10:56:00] | geoff__998e: | enjoy |
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| [10:56:00] | veritanuda: | So still noone witht he same build prob as me huh? ../../libs/libmyth/libmyth-0.18.1.so: undefined reference to `ScreenSaverX11::ScreenSaverX11()' |
| [10:56:00] | geoff__998e: | I had the same problem when I moved from pacific to mountian |
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| [10:56:00] | geoff__998e: | do you have the x11 headers intalled? |
| [10:57:00] | veritanuda: | yup |
| [10:57:00] | geoff__998e: | did you try a clean checkout? |
| [10:58:00] | thechris: | can you run directfb on vc8 and X11 on vc7? |
| [10:58:00] | thechris: | i know you can do X on vc7 and vc8 |
| [10:58:00] | veritanuda: | well no... not exactly.. pulled the debian source.. |
| [10:58:00] | veritanuda: | trying to repackage it for amd64 |
| [10:58:00] | geoff__998e: | no idea sorry |
| [10:58:00] | geoff__998e: | i use svn head on debian and os x |
| [10:59:00] | veritanuda: | S'ok.. just i see it is mentioned a few times just no solution is posted as a follow up |
| [10:59:00] | veritanuda: | does that build cleanly then? |
| [10:59:00] | geoff__998e: | yes |
| [10:59:00] | thechris: | crap... now my clocks wrong... i guess its BIOS time... |
| [10:59:00] | veritanuda: | Cool.. |
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| [11:00:00] | geoff__998e: | but a few weeks ago, after updating debian, I had a whole bunch of x11 headers missing |
| [11:00:00] | geoff__998e: | I never had problems before |
| [11:00:00] | geoff__998e: | but reinstalling the dev packages fixed it |
| [11:01:00] | veritanuda: | really? Hmmm wonder if it will build against the xorg headers? |
| [11:01:00] | geoff__998e: | it should |
| [11:01:00] | veritanuda: | Question is if they are availible for amd64 ;) I'll go check |
| [11:03:00] | SqWaw: | If your Live TV video is playing jerky (i.e. running too fast, then stopping every 1–2 seconds) and you keep getting "prebuffering pause" errors in the console, try adjusting the video format in the recording profiles. The default format used in all of my installation's profiles was set to 480x480, which might be suitable for NTSC regions. But I'm using a PAL version of the PVR-250 which obviously doesn't like this setting. After changing the format |
| [11:03:00] | SqWaw: | there was someone here looking for help w/ that earlier |
| [11:04:00] | SqWaw: | !seen cowman |
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| [11:10:00] | rgbiernat: | short question : how long does it take to get the EPG info if you record the dvb-t channel ? Are 5 minutes enough ? I do not watch some channels on a regular basis so I lose the information after a week. |
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| [11:20:00] | rgbiernat: | ok, even one minute should be enough. I'll set it to 5 minutes anyway. |
| [11:32:00] | johnp_: | rgbiernat, I have seen it take up to 10 in the uk |
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| [11:34:00] | rgbiernat: | johnp_ : good point. Then I'll set it to 10 – thanks! |
| [11:35:00] | johnp_: | oh and if you are in the uk, point it at BBC1 |
| [11:37:00] | rgbiernat: | johnp_: nope, located in the west of germany. however the broadcast is sometimes a bit buggy. So I am on the safe side of life. |
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| [12:42:00] | k-man_: | how do i backup my database? |
| [12:42:00] | laga: | k-man_: mysqldump -u USER -pPASS mythconverg > mythconverg.backup |
| [12:42:00] | k-man_: | thanks laga |
| [12:43:00] | laga: | filtering thru bzip2 works, too |
| [12:43:00] | laga: | mysqldump -u USER -pPASSWORT mythconverg | bzip2 > mythconverg.backup.bz |
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| [13:04:00] | k-man_: | thanks |
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| [13:13:00] | fatmatt: | does anyone else get delayed audio when they use mplayer via myth? |
| [13:13:00] | fatmatt: | sorry, audio is not delayed, its ahead of video by maybe 1 sec |
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| [13:15:00] | laga: | does it happen with every video file? |
| [13:15:00] | fatmatt: | yes |
| [13:15:00] | laga: | that's odd. look at the debugging output of mplayer |
| [13:16:00] | fatmatt: | I'd need to enable debugging for mpl;ayer? or does it log somewhere? |
| [13:16:00] | laga: | umm, just start it over a terminal |
| [13:17:00] | fatmatt: | don't have a keyboard on that box... |
| [13:17:00] | laga: | ssh? |
| [13:17:00] | fatmatt: | I might just look at the help file |
| [13:18:00] | fatmatt: | how do you start mplayer remotely via ssh? I don't know how to tell it to use the current x session rather than the ssh terminal |
| [13:19:00] | laga: | DISPLAY=:0 mplayer -vo xv movie.avi |
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| [13:19:00] | fatmatt: | thanks |
| [13:30:00] | fatmatt: | hmm, only seems to happen when I use -fs |
| [13:31:00] | fatmatt: | actually, same thing happens on the laptop when I use -fs as well |
| [13:31:00] | laga: | does it say something like YOUR CPU IS TOO SLOW TO PLAY THIS |
| [13:32:00] | fatmatt: | no |
| [13:33:00] | laga: | uh. well, and you use the Xv output driver, right? |
| [13:33:00] | fatmatt: | yeah |
| [13:33:00] | fatmatt: | just a sec, let me double check the config |
| [13:34:00] | burly: | is anyone using a via C3 for their frontend? |
| [13:35:00] | fatmatt: | yah, load "Xv" is in my xorg.conf |
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| [13:47:00] | dbroo: | hi all. i hope i'm not being a dumbass here but i've been struggling for weeks trying to get this mythtv box working and could do with some help. i'm trying to setup a dvb card with UK freeview service. it's mostly working, apart from the bbc channels. i've used several different methods that i've found on the net, but i can't get anywhere. anyone here got a similar working setup and a few minutes to help? |
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| [14:00:00] | TomBlaireau: | Hi there, I got a problem with mythtv and mplayer and the keyboard. When mythdvd (vcd part) launch mplayer, does mythtv take the entierely control of the keyboard? |
| [14:01:00] | TomBlaireau: | Because my database is not filled with DVD keybindings, so I though that the problem is there |
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| [14:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | tomimo: That sounds like a focus issue. It can happen with some window managers, but it seems like almost everytime it's when someone is not using a window manager at all |
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| [15:18:00] | fatmatt: | hmm xine works, maybe I'l just use xine |
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| [16:10:00] | hound_: | How do people convert their mythtv recorded shows to xvid? Do they have mythtv transcode it somehow, or use nuvexport? I have a haup pvr250 card, and my goal is to record the show then transcode it into xvid, but still be able to play it through mythtv. |
| [16:10:00] | hound_: | and now that I say this I wonder if the tv function of mythtv can even play other filetypes then mpg, maybe i'd have to import it into the video list |
| [16:12:00] | sphing: | hound_: check out nuv2avi |
| [16:12:00] | sphing: | if i'm not mistaken Bierdo wrote it |
| [16:12:00] | Tommck: | sphing – I believe you are right |
| [16:13:00] | Agrajag-: | that doesn't make them smaller though (i believe) |
| [16:13:00] | hound_: | that's cool. I don't think it'll be accessable through the recorded shows list after that though. |
| [16:13:00] | Agrajag-: | if you want xvid, use nuvexport, and yeah, put them into your videos folder |
| [16:13:00] | hound_: | i was trying to fit more recorded shows on my drive. maybe I can just turn the encoder bitrate down |
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| [16:22:00] | sphing: | hound_: you could always burn to dvd |
| [16:22:00] | Chacabaou: | Is it possible to copy the settings for a specific frontend identifier to another (new one), without also copying the backend settings (same identifier)? |
| [16:22:00] | sphing: | Chacabaou: probably with some trickiness |
| [16:23:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – you could change the identifier in the front end to be the same as the other one... as long as you didn't mind continuing with the same settings forever |
| [16:23:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: But in general, backend and frontend settings aren't seperated, right? |
| [16:23:00] | sphing: | yes they are |
| [16:23:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: How? |
| [16:23:00] | sphing: | they're stored in different places in mysql |
| [16:24:00] | sphing: | what you could do is figure out which tables are for frontend settings, then copy them with a new hostname |
| [16:24:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Well, the point is, that I moved my backend to another machine (formerly, back+front were on one system), and don't want to have the backend's name as the frontend's identifier. |
| [16:24:00] | Tommck: | ahh. |
| [16:25:00] | Tommck: | thought you were adding a frontend |
| [16:25:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: AFAIK, both sets are stored in the settings table. |
| [16:25:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Well, maybe I will, too. And in this case, I'd like to clone the settings of the first frontend. |
| [16:26:00] | Tommck: | yeah.. don't know.. |
| [16:26:00] | Chacabaou: | (but I also _do_ mind continuing with the same settings forever ;)) |
| [16:26:00] | hound_: | yea I would like to burn to dvd actually, I've done it once or twice but I forget the process I used |
| [16:27:00] | hound_: | and I don't think my pvr card outputs good mpeg files to burn right onto a dvd. |
| [16:32:00] | sphing: | Chacabaou: what you need to do |
| [16:32:00] | sphing: | is figure out which settings in the settings table are from the backend |
| [16:33:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: True...but the aren't marked in any way, so it's more like guessing. |
| [16:33:00] | Chacabaou: | s/but the/but they/ |
| [16:33:00] | sphing: | do you have a front end only |
| [16:33:00] | Tommck: | Chacabaou – just copy all of the settings... what's it hurt? |
| [16:34:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: Actually not. Right now, I have _one_ custom identifier being used for two machines (frontend and backend). |
| [16:34:00] | sphing: | Chacabaou: let me see if i undersand you correctly: you have a machine that was both the frontend and the back end, now you moved your backend which will never again be a frontend and the old backend is just a frontend |
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| [16:35:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Maybe...getting really messed up when running slave backends on the frontend machines, someday. |
| [16:35:00] | Tommck: | key word: someday :) |
| [16:35:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: As said, the former backend machine _could_ be a slave backend someday. |
| [16:35:00] | Tommck: | why do today what you can put off until tomorrow? |
| [16:35:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: I can't surely say that it wont, so I'd like to be sure. ;) |
| [16:35:00] | sphing: | and you dont want the new backend's hostname to be that of the old backend? |
| [16:36:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: Well, I already replaced all appearings of the old backend's hostname to a custom identifier. |
| [16:36:00] | sphing: | ok... |
| [16:36:00] | sphing: | heres what you gotta do. |
| [16:37:00] | ** Chacabaou listens. :) ** | |
| [16:37:00] | sphing: | change the custom identifier to the new backend's hostname |
| [16:37:00] | sphing: | then start up the old backend (new frontend) with the old hostname... it will see it as a new frontend. |
| [16:37:00] | sphing: | got me so far? |
| [16:38:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: Yeah...I will lose all my current frontend settings, for instance? |
| [16:38:00] | sphing: | yes |
| [16:38:00] | sphing: | but... you need to run a mysql query to return those |
| [16:38:00] | sphing: | so before you do any of this |
| [16:38:00] | sphing: | back your mythconverg |
| [16:38:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: So I shall play around with the frontend settings until the (partly) match the old settings in the db? |
| [16:39:00] | Chacabaou: | s/until the/until they/ |
| [16:40:00] | sphing: | no.. we will copy them directly over |
| [16:40:00] | Chacabaou: | But which query will return the current frontend settings _only_? |
| [16:41:00] | sphing: | whats the new and old hostname |
| [16:41:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: "mickey" is the old hostname, now frontend only. "mruseless" is the new backend. |
| [16:41:00] | Chacabaou: | (I already migrated the whole mickey-thing to mruseless) |
| [16:42:00] | Tommck: | anyone know where MythVideo stores the Cover Images? |
| [16:42:00] | Chacabaou: | Tommck: Did you search the db? Maybe there... |
| [16:42:00] | Tommck: | haven't looked there yet |
| [16:42:00] | Fat_Matt: | mythweb has an option that links to the covers somewhere |
| [16:43:00] | Tommck: | ohh.. cooll.. thanks |
| [16:43:00] | Fat_Matt: | I think it can be pretty much anywhere, but I don't know if there's a default |
| [16:43:00] | Tommck: | there has to be... if you try to manually edit it, it pops up a list of images |
| [16:43:00] | Tommck: | but now "browse" option |
| [16:43:00] | sphing: | Chacabaou: i haven't forgot about you... i'm just tring to remember the syntax |
| [16:44:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: My idea would be to create a diff-list by comparing the settings of a frontend+backend-identifier and a frontend-only-identifier. |
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| [16:47:00] | Chacabaou: | (that'd be the bruteforce way) |
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| [16:51:00] | sphing: | Chacabaou: select s1.* from settings s1 LEFT JOIN settings s2 ON s1.value=s2.value WHERE s2.hostname='dell' AND s1.hostname='xbox'; |
| [16:51:00] | sphing: | change xbox to your frontend and dell to your backend |
| [16:51:00] | sphing: | those are the ones that need to be changed along with their values |
| [16:52:00] | sphing: | i'm sure there is an easier way to actually set the values, but i'm running late... i can help you tonight if you are willing to wait |
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| [16:54:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: The query returns 151 lines, which is quite sensible. Shall I do the copy-stuff manually (using this list), or is there some sql-magic for it, too? |
| [16:54:00] | sphing: | there is some sql magic.. but like i said i'm running late |
| [16:54:00] | sphing: | tonight i can help... unless you are willing to copy past the whole way through |
| [16:55:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: I'll try to export this with phpmyadmin and run some `sed` on it...maybe it works. ;) |
| [16:55:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: I not, I'll contact you, ok? Thanks for your help! |
| [16:55:00] | Chacabaou: | *If |
| [16:56:00] | sphing: | yea sure |
| [16:59:00] | sphing: | Chacabaou: you still here... i think it just hit me |
| [16:59:00] | Chacabaou: | ? |
| [16:59:00] | sphing: | first make sur eyou are backed up |
| [17:00:00] | Chacabaou: | Sure. :) |
| [17:01:00] | sphing: | update settings s1,settings s2 set s1.data=s2.data where s1.value=s2.value AND s1.hostname='mruseless' AND s2.hostname='mickey'; |
| [17:01:00] | sphing: | give that a go |
| [17:01:00] | sphing: | and boot up the frontend |
| [17:03:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: Uuh...I don't understand it, but I'll try. ;) |
| [17:05:00] | sphing: | the suspense is killing me |
| [17:05:00] | Chacabaou: | :D |
| [17:05:00] | sphing: | alright ill be back in 10.. le tme know how it goes |
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| [17:10:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: Hmm...negative. |
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| [17:17:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: Err...it worked! I just went the wrong direction at first... so I switched the hostnames, and it worked! :D |
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| [17:21:00] | sphing: | ok good... i wasnt sure if i mixed them p |
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| [17:23:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: I'm not sure, if it worked _completely_... |
| [17:24:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: For example, the frontend asks me to "Yes, Exit and Shutdown", which it didn't before (I told it to). |
| [17:30:00] | sphing: | hmm... it just copied all the settings perhaps theres more than just that tabld |
| [17:30:00] | Chacabaou: | sphing: I think, some directives got messed up because their lines weren't initially created by the "new frontend routine". (for example the setup-pin) |
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| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | Hmph |
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| [17:39:00] | Tommck: | Hmph? |
| [17:39:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [17:39:00] | Beirdo: | I'm fscking tired |
| [17:39:00] | Tommck: | :) |
| [17:39:00] | Tommck: | me too |
| [17:40:00] | cochi: | fscking? ;) |
| [17:40:00] | Beirdo: | and tomorrow I have an 8:14am international flight |
| [17:40:00] | cochi: | fsck.ing /dev/Beirdo |
| [17:40:00] | Beirdo: | so I'm gonna be tired again... getting on an airport shuttle bus at 5:10 |
| [17:41:00] | cochi: | at least an interesting destination? |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | I think I'll sleep all the way to Chicago if I can, and likely half way to San Juan after that |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | Puerto Rico |
| [17:42:00] | cochi: | 51st State ? ;) |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | but damn, being up at 4:15 or so. |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | blech |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | it's not a state |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | and I live in the 51st state... Canada |
| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | I wish I bought one of those free trade shirts in the late 80s |
| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | it was an eagle doing a beaver... soooo appropriate |
| [17:46:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [17:46:00] | rjune: | nice |
| [17:47:00] | Beirdo: | great protest shirt |
| [17:47:00] | Beirdo: | and was quickly banned at our highschool |
| [17:48:00] | laga: | no fun |
| [17:49:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: Canada... it's like living in the loft apartment over a really great party. |
| [17:49:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
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| [17:50:00] | Beirdo: | Cardoe: heh, nah, all the good shit's up here |
| [17:51:00] | Cardoe: | no one better accuse me of being mean to the DB helper guy |
| [17:52:00] | Beirdo: | muhahaha |
| [17:52:00] | Beirdo: | it's OK, gentoo-boy :) |
| [17:53:00] | Cardoe: | lol |
| [17:53:00] | Cardoe: | anyone that uses Gentoo can't use that as an insult. |
| [17:53:00] | Cardoe: | btw, there must be some pretty good render improvements in the new X |
| [17:53:00] | Cardoe: | because it just looks much better with Myth |
| [17:54:00] | laga: | which new X? |
| [17:54:00] | Cardoe: | 6.9/7.0 |
| [17:54:00] | laga: | oh, k |
| [17:55:00] | Cardoe: | take your pick whichever your disto is going to use. |
| [17:55:00] | ** laga is currently emerging 6.8.x ** | |
| [17:55:00] | Cardoe: | you're gonna get 7.0 |
| [17:55:00] | Cardoe: | that's what I've been busting my butt over the past week or so |
| [17:55:00] | Cardoe: | that and Gnome 2.12 |
| [17:56:00] | Cardoe: | after 2.12 passes, I can focus more on Myth again |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | nice. i've installed gnome 2.10 yesterday, it's quite nice. |
| [17:57:00] | Cardoe: | 2.12 is gonna have lots of polish things fixed. |
| [17:57:00] | Cardoe: | a lot of things that I basically said... hey.. in WinXP.. it just works |
| [17:57:00] | Cardoe: | in Linux... I have to drop down to command line... sometimes even as root |
| [17:57:00] | Cardoe: | and do it |
| [17:57:00] | Cardoe: | and then close that |
| [17:57:00] | Cardoe: | and it works |
| [17:57:00] | Cardoe: | no... it should just work... no reason for that garbage. |
| [17:58:00] | laga: | heh. i upgraded to udev with no problems at all. |
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| [17:58:00] | zuralin: | gnome 2.10 works awesome for me |
| [17:58:00] | laga: | but the network support of natuilus is quite buggy, imho |
| [17:58:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [17:58:00] | laga: | s/quite buggy/very unreliable/ |
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| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | Cardoe: I love pestering my rice-boy gentoo-using coworkers |
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| [18:44:00] | xris: | mchou: so I challenge your "no good movies this year" theory... |
| [18:45:00] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
| [18:45:00] | Beirdo: | Deuce Bigelow: European Gigolo? |
| [18:45:00] | zuralin: | cinderella man |
| [18:45:00] | ** xris saw March of the Penguins last night. ** | |
| [18:45:00] | Beirdo: | Cinderella Man can eat me, it messed up traffic here for weeks |
| [18:45:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:45:00] | xris: | first movie in a LONG time that I felt REALLY deserved spending $9 to see. |
| [18:45:00] | Beirdo: | shot in downtown Toronto |
| [18:46:00] | zuralin: | Beirdo, haha, didn't know that.. did you ever see it? |
| [18:46:00] | Beirdo: | nope :) |
| [18:46:00] | Beirdo: | nor did I see Russell Crowe out where all the mess was |
| [18:48:00] | zuralin: | the local theatre here had a "if you don't like the movie, get your money back" guarantee |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | never pay for a movie again |
| [18:49:00] | zuralin: | only on that movie.. they should do it on more |
| [18:49:00] | zuralin: | 90% of the movies out are shit |
| [18:50:00] | xris: | zuralin: and apparently, hollywood has finally started to realize that. |
| [18:51:00] | zuralin: | xris, since when? |
| [18:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, since when? |
| [18:52:00] | Krazylegz: | I have two free movie tickets here on my desk. I've had them since Christmas. |
| [18:52:00] | xris: | there was some thing on /. about it. |
| [18:53:00] | xris: | some report came out where they actually *didn't* (entirely) blame piracy for bad movie revenues. |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Whoa. Revelation. |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | piracy is due to getting gouged to watch stupid tripe |
| [18:54:00] | zuralin: | xris, the report was from NYT |
| [18:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Beirdo: I totally agree. |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | if you want us to pay good money, make movies that don't suck |
| [18:54:00] | xris: | zuralin: thought the article about the report was from NYT |
| [18:54:00] | zuralin: | only thing on /. related to hollywood is how they are sueing there customers |
| [18:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Heck, I don't even "steal" that much music/video anymore. I simply listen to/watch less. |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | they can sue me for not going to the theatre to watch tripe |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | well, I did go see Deuce Bigelow... but I was really bored |
| [18:55:00] | xris: | zuralin: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/25/1439214&tid=97 |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | I'd rather stay home and play games or sleep or soemthing |
| [18:55:00] | xris: | same NYT article |
| [18:55:00] | xris: | Beirdo: must have been REALLY bored. |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | yeah well |
| [18:56:00] | xris: | should have gone to see the penguins. |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | I don't think it was out |
| [18:56:00] | Krazylegz: | I liked the first Deuce. |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | it was a couple weeks ago |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | the second one is... meh |
| [18:57:00] | zuralin: | xris, oh your right.. like the typical /. reader i didn't read the article |
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| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | and like the typical non-slashdotter, I ain't gonna |
| [18:59:00] | zuralin: | lol, either am i.. read the title of the story tho |
| [18:59:00] | xris: | zuralin: huh? they never do. |
| [18:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Thank goodness there's another geek out there who doesn't read /. |
| [19:00:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: I know a number who don't. |
| [19:01:00] | xris: | I still do when I'm bored... but usually just the headlines and any interesting-looking articles... rarely the comments. |
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| [19:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, I check sometimes. |
| [19:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe once or twice a month really late at night now. |
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| [19:04:00] | Beirdo: | fooood time. |
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| [19:18:00] | mchou: | xris: only good movie I've seen this year is "Murderball." |
| [19:18:00] | mchou: | I haven't seen Penguins yet, but I do plan on seeing that..... |
| [19:20:00] | mchou: | But Deuce must have been a real waste of time and money. Even ebert and roeper panned it. |
| [19:20:00] | mchou: | and those guys arent known for their overly discriminating tastes :) |
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| [19:22:00] | mchou: | Charlie and the Chocolate factory sucked due to some a-hole kids in audience saying the lines as if it were Rocky Horror |
| [19:22:00] | xris: | mchou: not to mention the COMPLETE CHANGE IN PLOT.... |
| [19:23:00] | xris: | wonka-as-pedophile just didn't sit well with our group |
| [19:23:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [19:23:00] | mchou: | where did you get that? |
| [19:23:00] | xris: | mchou: his manerisms. |
| [19:23:00] | xris: | personally, I could see beyond it. |
| [19:23:00] | mchou: | I thought in that movie he made clear he disliked kids. |
| [19:24:00] | mchou: | or brats.... |
| [19:25:00] | mchou: | anyway, there are reasons not to go to theatres any more..... |
| [19:25:00] | mchou: | even murderball cinema experience sucked. |
| [19:25:00] | xris: | my main issue is that the book has NOTHING about wonka dealing with child/parent issues... in this one, he was fixated on a dislike of child/parent relationships ONLY... |
| [19:26:00] | xris: | to the point that he was completely insane. |
| [19:26:00] | mchou: | the picture was cut off at the bottom, missed all the epilogue subtitles..... |
| [19:26:00] | xris: | in the book, he was insane, but sly... the whole slug-whatshisname bit with trying to get charlie to sell the gobstopper recipe at the end, as a final test. |
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| [19:27:00] | xris: | they also cut off the end such that it doesn't lead into the sequel, which I'd have liked to see a movie made of. |
| [19:27:00] | mchou: | huh?? |
| [19:27:00] | xris: | anyway, penguins is worth paying to see.... |
| [19:27:00] | mchou: | the glass elevator aint gonna be a sequel? |
| [19:28:00] | xris: | not without some massive change in the transition. |
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| [19:28:00] | mchou: | xris: you and I must have seen different movie :) |
| [19:28:00] | mchou: | I didnt see 90% of the stuff you're talking about. |
| [19:28:00] | xris: | the whole point was that the whole family goes with wonka into space WITHOUT knowing him... elevator -> house -> space... |
| [19:29:00] | xris: | not elevator -> house -> charlie won't leave parents -> wonka resolves issues with his father -> wonka and charlie and family become friends and share dinners together for weeks/months -> .... next? |
| [19:30:00] | mchou: | share dinners??? |
| [19:30:00] | mchou: | I thought the family "moved in" :) |
| [19:30:00] | xris: | didn't you see the END of the new movie? that's how it ends. |
| [19:30:00] | mchou: | it also ends with Charlie banging into the elevator. |
| [19:31:00] | xris: | the new movie leaves wonka looking like an insane guy with issues of parental abandonment, who is "saved" by charlie's love of his own family. In the book, he appears insane up UNTIL the end, when you realize that he had a plan the whole time. |
| [19:31:00] | mchou: | I meant Wonka. |
| [19:32:00] | mchou: | I dont think the book portrayed wonka as insane. |
| [19:32:00] | xris: | anyway, I liked the new movie (Depp is probably one of my favorite actors), but was severely disappointed where it deviated from the book. |
| [19:32:00] | mchou: | perculiar, eccentric, maybe |
| [19:32:00] | xris: | mchou: I have to disagree there. wonka made himself look insane... beyond eccentric. |
| [19:32:00] | xris: | it was part of his magic. |
| [19:33:00] | mchou: | xris: so what was the "point" of the golden ticket in the book? |
| [19:33:00] | mchou: | if wonka was insane, why did he have golden tickets? |
| [19:34:00] | xris: | mchou: appearance of insane in the book. |
| [19:35:00] | mchou: | bah, I disagree. |
| [19:35:00] | mchou: | dahl was making a point about brats :) |
| [19:35:00] | xris: | in this one, he really was... had REAL issues, when in the book (and original movie) he just made it look that way, but under the surface was completely fine. |
| [19:36:00] | mchou: | so Wonka was indeed sane.... |
| [19:36:00] | xris: | yes. in the book, he was eccentric, but completely sane and smarter than the average person, but put on the outward appearance of over-the-top, slightly insane... |
| [19:37:00] | mchou: | so how was it different in the new movie? |
| [19:37:00] | mchou: | I thought burton made that pretty clear. |
| [19:37:00] | xris: | knew exactly what would trick all of the brats into showing their true natures of greed, etc.... knew exactly how to test charlie beyond even the other children... |
| [19:38:00] | xris: | in the new movie, some of that was there, but there was no moment of clarity at the end where you realize that he had done it all on purpose, no final test of charlie's purity of heart and intention (replaced it with charlie showing wonka that family was a "good thing").... |
| [19:38:00] | mchou: | it's pretty clear in the new movie wonka was sane "I wouldn't do that if I were you" |
| [19:39:00] | xris: | not sane, though. HORRIBLE issues of parental abandonment... refuses to give charlie the prize because charlie would rather be with his family, and wonka couldn't understand why... |
| [19:40:00] | xris: | I think we're also talking about different kinds of insanity... in both book and new movie, wonka is outwardly insane/eccentric... warning children not to do things he knows they'll do anyway, etc.... |
| [19:40:00] | mchou: | xris: wonka's dad did not abandon him. |
| [19:40:00] | xris: | but in the new movie, he has REAL issues. |
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| [19:41:00] | mchou: | the braces made that clear :) |
| [19:41:00] | xris: | mchou: obviously. but wonka doesn't realize that. |
| [19:41:00] | xris: | feels his father didn't love him, prevented him from following his dreams, etc. |
| [19:42:00] | xris: | part of that is in the book, but nowhere near the extent that the new movie emphasized it. |
| [19:42:00] | xris: | and certainly not to the point that it made wonka refuse charlie because charlie wouldn't leave his family. |
| [19:42:00] | namehunt: | I have a pvr-250 but my gentoo machine is only detecting pvr-150 anybody can help?? I have looked in the ivtv.sf.net but nothing |
| [19:42:00] | mchou: | I didnt see it that way. |
| [19:43:00] | xris: | namehunt: do you HAVE a 150? or is it just detecting the 250 incorrectly? |
| [19:43:00] | namehunt: | detecting 250 incorrectly |
| [19:43:00] | mchou: | Wonka didnt refuse, he just didnt understand..... |
| [19:43:00] | xris: | mchou: exactly. the book wonka didn't have that issue, and to me, it completely changes his character. |
| [19:44:00] | xris: | namehunt: I've heard of that issue before, but don't know what the resolution is, other than forcing the tuner type. |
| [19:44:00] | namehunt: | xris: how would I force it? |
| [19:44:00] | mchou: | namehunt: use another version of the driver. |
| [19:44:00] | mchou: | namehunt: read the docs? |
| [19:44:00] | namehunt: | ok |
| [19:45:00] | xris: | namehunt: dunno how gentoo does it. in fedora, it's just an option in mopdprobe.conf |
| [19:45:00] | mchou: | hint: modinfo ivtv. |
| [19:46:00] | kormoc: | one sec... |
| [19:46:00] | kormoc: | namehunt, cd /etc/modules.d |
| [19:46:00] | kormoc: | vi ivtv |
| [19:46:00] | namehunt: | ok |
| [19:47:00] | kormoc: | options ivtv tuner=blah |
| [19:47:00] | namehunt: | tuner=2 |
| [19:47:00] | mchou: | it aint a damn tuner issue in this case. |
| [19:48:00] | mchou: | go read the docs. |
| [19:48:00] | kormoc: | write it |
| [19:48:00] | kormoc: | then run modules-update |
| [19:48:00] | kormoc: | and there ya go |
| [19:48:00] | namehunt: | ok |
| [19:48:00] | namehunt: | is it type 2 |
| [19:48:00] | kormoc: | donno bout that |
| [19:48:00] | namehunt: | ohh ok |
| [19:48:00] | kormoc: | you could also put in the force the card to blah option |
| [19:48:00] | SqWaw: | xris: before, i thought you needed webspace for your wiki or something, so i was offering.... |
| [19:48:00] | kormoc: | modinfo ivtv will show you what options that module has |
| [19:49:00] | namehunt: | modinfo shows nothing |
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| [19:49:00] | xris: | stupid control-w meaning different things in different apps. |
| [19:49:00] | xris: | SqWaw: no... I do my own hosting... need to finish CODING my wiki... then I go back to working on mythweb. |
| [19:49:00] | mchou: | anyone build a uirt here before? |
| [19:50:00] | SqWaw: | ahhh |
| [19:50:00] | SqWaw: | okay |
| [19:50:00] | SqWaw: | :) |
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| [19:52:00] | mchou: | anyone ever buy electronic components from mouser before? |
| [19:52:00] | xris: | mchou: I've pondered building a yurt.... |
| [19:52:00] | xris: | and I have a friend who orders stuff from mouser every few months. |
| [19:52:00] | mchou: | a yurt? that's a mongolian house. |
| [19:54:00] | mchou: | I need some parts but so far I can come up with $2 total in parts with $5 shipping :( |
| [19:54:00] | namehunt: | kormoc: i will try thanks |
| [19:55:00] | mchou: | wonder if I should finally go ahead and replace all my caps on my mobo...... |
| [19:55:00] | mchou: | that just sounds painful and wasteful..... |
| [19:55:00] | xris: | mchou: quite. |
| [19:55:00] | xris: | no local electronics store? |
| [19:55:00] | kormoc: | namehunt, then ivtv isn't installed correctly |
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| [19:55:00] | xris: | buy yourself some plug-in LED brake lite replacements... |
| [19:56:00] | mchou: | xris: caps on mobo are "special" |
| [19:56:00] | xris: | they sell LED replacements for brake light bulbs for most cars.... |
| [19:56:00] | kormoc: | namehunt, ooh, you need to do the full path to the ivtv.ko |
| [19:56:00] | mchou: | they are not random generic caps. |
| [19:56:00] | kormoc: | cardtype=1 to force it to the 250 |
| [19:56:00] | mchou: | low esr with small for factor. |
| [19:56:00] | mchou: | form* |
| [19:56:00] | xris: | mchou: yes, I know what a yurt is. just play on words... (thought I do want to build one. makes a great tent for medieval reenactment) |
| [19:59:00] | mchou: | I should have picked up some hi intensity leds at the store yesterday..... |
| [20:00:00] | mchou: | sigh... |
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| [20:45:00] | bsm117531: | can anyone tell me if they are able to decode and use mythtv with "Digital Cable" in the USA and a pcHDTV card? |
| [20:47:00] | terevos: | I can't say from experience, but I believe you need to use the cable box output in order to get digital cable (HD or SD) |
| [20:48:00] | bsm117531: | What does SD stand for? |
| [20:48:00] | bsm117531: | not-hdtv digital? |
| [20:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Standard Definition |
| [20:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Regular TV basically |
| [20:48:00] | bsm117531: | Can mythtv change the channel and whatnot if connected to the cable box? |
| [20:48:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: who is your cable provider? |
| [20:49:00] | bsm117531: | comcast. |
| [20:49:00] | bsm117531: | or will be...once I decide if this is possible. ;) |
| [20:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | bsm117531: You need to set something up. Either via a serial cable, or through an IR blaster of some sort. But yeah it can do it for you |
| [20:49:00] | mchou: | it's possible :) |
| [20:49:00] | bsm117531: | Now what I really want to do is not have a cable box... ;) Can anyone say if that works, from experience? |
| [20:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | If what works ? |
| [20:50:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: be specific man. |
| [20:50:00] | bsm117531: | pcHDTV can decrypt QAM, but there's an alphabet soup of broadcast standards that I don't understand, and then there's encrpytion. |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | if it's encrypted, you are SOL |
| [20:50:00] | bsm117531: | if I can record using a pcHDTV, without a cable box. |
| [20:50:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: for someone in physics you are being rather vague. |
| [20:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never heard of anyone gettiung digital cable off their pchdtv :) |
| [20:51:00] | bsm117531: | mchou: how do you know that? ;) |
| [20:51:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: it's easy |
| [20:51:00] | bsm117531: | How can I find out what channels (or all) are encrypted? |
| [20:51:00] | mchou: | do a whois |
| [20:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | bsm117531: Odds are most if not all of them will be encrypted |
| [20:51:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: even at ucdavis :) |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | ah that explains it all |
| [20:51:00] | bsm117531: | yep |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | California :) |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:52:00] | mchou: | Cali Aggie, that's even worse :) |
| [20:52:00] | bsm117531: | So how can I figure out if channels are encrypted, before I order from comcast. |
| [20:52:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: they are all encrypted w/ exception of "locals" |
| [20:52:00] | mchou: | no need to figure out. |
| [20:53:00] | kormoc: | bsm117531, count on all channels being encrypted |
| [20:53:00] | bsm117531: | is the local HDTV content unencrypted? |
| [20:53:00] | mchou: | but if you really wanna know head over to avsforum.com. |
| [20:53:00] | zuralin: | yes |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | NP: Megadeth – Almost Honest |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | this should help me wake up |
| [20:53:00] | bsm117531: | k thanks all. |
| [20:53:00] | bsm117531: | I will not pay for encrypted content. I'll probably get regular cable then. |
| [20:54:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: you get unencypted local HD if you get basic. |
| [20:54:00] | mchou: | unencrypted. |
| [20:55:00] | mchou: | even more likely if you get inet via cable. |
| [20:55:00] | bsm117531: | that's good. I've been very disappointed that my pcHDTV can't pick up squat OTA. |
| [20:55:00] | mchou: | comcast can be bastards sometimes :) |
| [20:55:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: how far are towers from davis? |
| [20:56:00] | bsm117531: | I think about 20 miles. |
| [20:56:00] | Beirdo: | comcast is defined as bastards |
| [20:56:00] | mchou: | bah, you should be getting execellent OTA. |
| [20:56:00] | mchou: | go get a real antenna. |
| [20:56:00] | bsm117531: | you'd think. |
| [20:56:00] | bsm117531: | I have a huge, amplified antenna. |
| [20:56:00] | mchou: | or being a phyics geek, build one :) |
| [20:57:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: what brand and model is the antenna? |
| [20:57:00] | bsm117531: | I dunno, not at home now. |
| [20:57:00] | mchou: | bah. Then by deininion it's crap :) |
| [20:57:00] | mchou: | definition* |
| [20:58:00] | mchou: | you probably have a lameass terk. |
| [20:58:00] | bsm117531: | It's not that $100 one that everyone recommends. |
| [20:58:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: you live in a valley or hill? |
| [20:58:00] | bsm117531: | If I can't get any signal at all with a decent antenna, if I moved to a huge honking mega antenna I'd have crappy signal at best... |
| [20:59:00] | bsm117531: | it's near Sacramento, in the central valley. I'm not on a local valley or hill. |
| [20:59:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: that's the point, you dunno if antenna is decent to start with. |
| [20:59:00] | bsm117531: | but 1st floor doesn't help. |
| [20:59:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [20:59:00] | mchou: | get a freaking outdoor antenna |
| [21:00:00] | bsm117531: | I'm in an apartment building. |
| [21:00:00] | mchou: | doesnt matter if on 1st floor or not. |
| [21:00:00] | mchou: | how many apts in the complex? |
| [21:00:00] | mchou: | roughly? |
| [21:00:00] | bsm117531: | mmm...60? |
| [21:00:00] | bsm117531: | 3 stories. |
| [21:01:00] | mchou: | they dont let you put antenna on roof? |
| [21:02:00] | bsm117531: | dunno. |
| [21:02:00] | mchou: | find out. |
| [21:02:00] | bsm117531: | just moved in yesterday... ;) |
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| [21:02:00] | mchou: | outdoor antenna is guaranteed to work |
| [21:03:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: you a grad student or postdoc? |
| [21:03:00] | bsm117531: | postdoc |
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| [21:03:00] | tomblaireau: | Hi everybody. I got an issue with mythdvd. The keyboard doesn't seem to work. It might be a problem with the database I think but I'm not sure. |
| [21:03:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: then ask the ampartment if they have a "communal" antenna :) |
| [21:04:00] | laga: | tomblaireau: what window manager are you running? |
| [21:04:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: if so, yo're all set. |
| [21:04:00] | bsm117531: | There is a suspicious wall plate, with two screws on it, I haven't had a chance to connect this to my pcHDTV yet. I don't know if there's an antenna on the other end. |
| [21:04:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: that probably for cable.... |
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| [21:05:00] | bsm117531: | there's also a cable... |
| [21:05:00] | mchou: | but you should be able to get stuff evenif you have basic there. |
| [21:05:00] | bsm117531: | I've seen wall plates like that before, not sure what they're for. |
| [21:05:00] | mchou: | roll your comp over to your next door neighbor who has basic..... |
| [21:05:00] | tomblaireau: | laga: Xorg default's. I think it's fwm |
| [21:05:00] | tomblaireau: | laga: twm sorry |
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| [21:06:00] | mchou: | you should be able to tune in to clear QAM..... |
| [21:06:00] | laga: | tomblaireau: well, i think it should work. such probelms are usually caused by focus issues. i didn't have any problems with fluxbox |
| [21:06:00] | bsm117531: | that's a good idea. |
| [21:06:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: takes 10 minutes max |
| [21:06:00] | burly: | does mythtv require SCSI emulation for burners even though native ATA support is available now ? |
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| [21:07:00] | bsm117531: | Maybe I'll roll it over to my girlfriend's. It's less then a mile away, service should be the same. |
| [21:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | burly: I saw someone send a patch related to that, but I didn' |
| [21:07:00] | tomblaireau: | laga : Ok. But tell me if I'm wrong. In the database settings, i should find some keybinding for dvd playing, no? |
| [21:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | t see it get commited |
| [21:07:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: that works. |
| [21:07:00] | mchou: | bsm117531: what field of physics? |
| [21:07:00] | burly: | GreyFoxx: ok, I'll look into that |
| [21:07:00] | burly: | thanks |
| [21:08:00] | tomblaireau: | laga: Because I don't have any. I though that mythtv override the mplayer keybinding for playing..Maybe I'm wrong |
| [21:08:00] | laga: | tomblaireau: no. mythdvd just calls xine, mplayer or whatever. you have to configure the corresponding application |
| [21:09:00] | tomblaireau: | laga: ok so the problem is elsewhere...Maybe I should try to install fluxbox too. |
| [21:10:00] | laga: | tomblaireau: it's a nice, small app. ratpoison is even better, but i'm afraid it doesn't come with most distros |
| [21:10:00] | tomblaireau: | laga: that's not a problem I think |
| [21:10:00] | tomblaireau: | laga: which one is consuming less cpu? :p |
| [21:11:00] | laga: | tomblaireau: ratpoison. at least, ratpoison has less eye-candy ;) |
| [21:12:00] | laga: | tomblaireau: but fluxbox is very light-weight. you are not going to use it much anyways ;) |
| [21:12:00] | tomblaireau: | laga: I have it :) Thanks for your help, I hope that will solve the problem ;) |
| [21:12:00] | laga: | good luck ;) |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | Megadeth++ |
| [21:12:00] | tomblaireau: | laga: I have them two |
| [21:13:00] | laga: | AmonAmarth++ |
| [21:13:00] | tomblaireau: | laga: thx |
| [21:13:00] | laga: | tomblaireau: umm. well. ask an 8ball ;) |
| [21:13:00] | tomblaireau: | laga: sorry, i do not understand? |
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| [21:14:00] | sphing: | a faster backend probably speeds up channel changes doesn't it |
| [21:15:00] | laga: | tomblaireau: an 8ball is a little device that helps you with making decisions ;). i'd google an image for you, but i don't have a browser atm ;) |
| [21:16:00] | tomblaireau: | laga: loool Okey, I understand now. I already seen some, but it's not very used in here |
| [21:16:00] | tomblaireau: | laga: even if I'd love to have one lol |
| [21:16:00] | laga: | :) |
| [21:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: not really no |
| [21:18:00] | ** Beirdo tries in vain to remember how to call someone a buttmunch in German ** | |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Not helping you with that one. |
| [21:19:00] | Beirdo: | laga could... Beavis & Butthead rules |
| [21:19:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: how can i speed it up |
| [21:19:00] | sphing: | its like 3 or 4 secs |
| [21:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Don't use livetv |
| [21:19:00] | beavis: | := |
| [21:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | There are things you can do though. The type of filesystem on the drive that the ring buffer sits on makes a huge difference |
| [21:20:00] | sphing: | i rarely do... but its annoying the few times a week i do want to watch it |
| [21:20:00] | laga: | Beirdo: buttmunch...i'm afraid that there is no literal translation. |
| [21:20:00] | sphing: | what would be the best fs? |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | awww |
| [21:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | I find xfs to be quickest |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | B&B had one |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | I remember seeing it in the subtitles :) |
| [21:21:00] | sphing: | would raid 0 help? |
| [21:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | not particularly |
| [21:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Your slow downs are truncing of the ringer buffer where the fs comes into play, and other than that there is a buffer that gets filled with a second or so of data before play starts |
| [21:22:00] | laga: | Beirdo: the subtitles suck. |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | but it was funny |
| [21:23:00] | laga: | Beirdo: umm. Arschnascher. but that's lame ;) |
| [21:23:00] | laga: | omg that's disgusting. |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | yes it is |
| [21:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: What is ? "Arschnascher" ? |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | like buttmunch isn't :) |
| [21:24:00] | beavis: | i've never ever used Arschnascher in my whole life |
| [21:24:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i've never felt like translating it. |
| [21:24:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: so how does the cable's box work |
| [21:24:00] | laga: | beavis: i really hope so. |
| [21:24:00] | sphing: | they switch channels immediately |
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| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | nah, I think it was butthead calling you that, beavis :) |
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| [21:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: they have a delay, they just don't have file systems to deal with, nor do they buffer as much, hence the crappy picture for the first few frames on some of them |
| [21:25:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: no theres is no delay... |
| [21:26:00] | sphing: | i dont mean tivo... i mean the dvr you get from the cable company |
| [21:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: If you are talking about regular standard cable over a cable box well... it's not compressing, writing to a drive, reading, and decompressing |
| [21:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: I've never seen one that didn't have a delay |
| [21:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | maybe not 3 seconds, but there is a delay. It's not instant like flipping through regular cable channels on a tv |
| [21:27:00] | sphing: | my friend has one through the cable company... its digital cable and has the same speed as digital cable that doesnt have the dvr... less than a sec |
| [21:27:00] | sphing: | well less than sec... half a sec at most |
| [21:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | You will have to ask the company that makes it just how they accomplish it :) |
| [21:28:00] | sphing: | ha.. |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | just as I thought |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | they cancelled today's YYZ -> MIA flight |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | I bet they will tomorrow too |
| [21:29:00] | sphing: | mia is fuxed |
| [21:29:00] | ** Beirdo is glad he changed ** | |
| [21:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | They could always buffer more of it into ram before flushing to a drive, |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | and cancelled MIA->SJU too |
| [21:29:00] | ** Beirdo cheers ** | |
| [21:29:00] | sphing: | my parents live there, they say theres no power, phones are down, trees everywhere |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | YYZ->ORD->SJU much smarter |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, well, the hurricane hit em dead on |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | no flight through MIA tomorrow for me. Fuck it |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | and Pensacola's next |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | someone in Florida really pissed off the gods. |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | I blame Jeb Bush |
| [21:31:00] | sphing: | yea i'm in gainesville so we could be hit |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | pcola's due for it as Cat3 |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | sucks to be them |
| [21:32:00] | sphing: | and last year they got hit NASTY by 3 in a row |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | and they already had a TS this year |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | almost Cat1 |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | I guess the country's wang is getting kicked a lot these days |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | (Homer Simpson)++ |
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| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | "Florida?? But that's the country's wang!" |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [22:07:00] | rtsai: | are all SVN users affected by all the DVB code churn lately, or are all the changes specific to some specific feature or something? |
| [22:07:00] | rtsai: | err, all DVB users using SVN code |
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| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | wow |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | there's a desk under all that crap |
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| [22:37:00] | burly: | any gentoo users of mythweb around ? |
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| [22:37:00] | SqWaw: | in about a week, that'll be me |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | burly: just grab the tarball |
| [22:39:00] | ** xris curses packages of any kind for web apps. ** | |
| [22:39:00] | ** xris also curses gentoo's crazy default web tree setup ** | |
| [22:39:00] | xris: | and just for good measure... I'll curse the other distro's, too, for their non-virtual-host-centric default web trees. |
| [22:39:00] | burly: | haha |
| [22:40:00] | burly: | so you already know the problem I am speaking of then, I am guessing |
| [22:40:00] | burly: | do you Know if you can tell portage apps to use a different location for their files |
| [22:40:00] | xris: | dunno |
| [22:40:00] | xris: | yes |
| [22:40:00] | burly: | rather than just dumping in /var/www/localhost/htdocs all the time |
| [22:40:00] | xris: | but seriously, just grab the tarball |
| [22:41:00] | burly: | well, if i can go the portage route, that is the best |
| [22:41:00] | xris: | it does that much? thought gentoo put everything in /var/www without even the htdocs |
| [22:41:00] | burly: | as it makes keeping it uptodate easier |
| [22:41:00] | xris: | or /home/www |
| [22:41:00] | burly: | nah, /var/www/localhost/htdocs/ |
| [22:41:00] | kormoc: | burly, look up the webapp-config util |
| [22:41:00] | xris: | burly: if it does that much, then it's a step ahead of other distros. |
| [22:41:00] | xris: | I take back my curse of their setup. |
| [22:42:00] | burly: | because i want to move it up a directory into /var/www/localhost so I can just use a vhost, and not have all the files including the ones with the mysql u:p in a serverable directory |
| [22:42:00] | burly: | kormoc: ok |
| [22:42:00] | xris: | burly: I believe you'd want /var/www/vhostname/htdocs then |
| [22:42:00] | xris: | but listen to kormoc.. he's a gentoo guy. |
| [22:43:00] | burly: | i know how to setup the vhost, thats not a problem. The problem is getting portage to put the files in the right place everytime I emerge that package |
| [22:43:00] | burly: | if i manually move it, I will have to continue to do so every time i merge that application |
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| [22:43:00] | kormoc: | burly, webapp-config allows any web application with the vhost flag to be setup to use vhosts |
| [22:44:00] | burly: | right, but it requires that the app have been merged into /usr/share/webapps already |
| [22:45:00] | burly: | if i can tell it to merge into /usr/share/webapps, then I should be able to tell it where to merge correctly in the first place |
| [22:45:00] | kormoc: | burly, just set the vhost use flag for the app, emerge it, and it emerges into /usr/share/webapps |
| [22:45:00] | burly: | i'll give that a whirl |
| [22:46:00] | kormoc: | burly, emerge -pv mythweb (for example) shows the use flags mythweb knows |
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| [22:46:00] | burly: | yeah |
| [22:47:00] | burly: | ill just put an entry in packages.use |
| [22:48:00] | burly: | sweet, worked like a charm. Thanks kormoc |
| [22:48:00] | burly: | thank you too xris |
| [22:48:00] | kormoc: | your welcome |
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| [22:59:00] | djperegrine: | wow #debian just got pawned |
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| [23:11:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
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| [23:32:00] | geoff__998e: | Has anyone been successful in using the Internal DVD playback on a mac frontend? |
| [23:33:00] | tomblaireau: | GreyFoxx: hi |
| [23:33:00] | tomblaireau: | GreyFoxx : do you know if the DPMS is enable while watching the TV? |
| [23:33:00] | geoff__998e: | or a remote frontend in general? |
| [23:33:00] | geoff__998e: | Greyfoxx: It gets disabled while watching tv |
| [23:33:00] | geoff__998e: | doh |
| [23:33:00] | tomblaireau: | geoff__998e: ok :) thx |
| [23:33:00] | tomblaireau: | lol |
| [23:33:00] | geoff__998e: | tomblaireau |
| [23:34:00] | tomblaireau: | np ;) |
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| [23:39:00] | djperegrine: | How do I get the transcoder working? |
| [23:39:00] | djperegrine: | will it make live TV lag if I turn it on ? |
| [23:39:00] | geoff__998e: | if your system is slow |
| [23:40:00] | djperegrine: | its 2.6 ghz |
| [23:40:00] | djperegrine: | 512 SD ram |
| [23:40:00] | geoff__998e: | should be okay, i have done it on an 800 mhz c3 |
| [23:41:00] | djperegrine: | heh |
| [23:41:00] | geoff__998e: | it is set to run at low priority |
| [23:41:00] | geoff__998e: | like commflag |
| [23:41:00] | djperegrine: | well what I want is so when I grab the files its a regular file not a .nuv file |
| [23:42:00] | djperegrine: | I am using hardware encoding , so will it matter that much? |
| [23:42:00] | djperegrine: | the auto-commercial detection made it lag alot |
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| [23:43:00] | geoff__998e: | you can set how aggressive you want commflag / transcode to be |
| [23:43:00] | geoff__998e: | transcode will not use hardware encoder |
| [23:43:00] | djperegrine: | I know |
| [23:43:00] | djperegrine: | but its already in mpeg format |
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| [23:44:00] | geoff__998e: | and your goal is to make them not .nuv? |
| [23:45:00] | djperegrine: | um yea |
| [23:45:00] | djperegrine: | I can't play them on my PC right now |
| [23:45:00] | djperegrine: | unless I convert them on a PC first |
| [23:45:00] | geoff__998e: | change the extention to .mpg |
| [23:45:00] | geoff__998e: | vlc can play the .nuvs |
| [23:46:00] | djperegrine: | I tried that I think |
| [23:46:00] | geoff__998e: | really |
| [23:46:00] | geoff__998e: | you have a pvr 250? |
| [23:46:00] | djperegrine: | I'll try again |
| [23:46:00] | djperegrine: | 150 |
| [23:46:00] | djperegrine: | eh I gtg |
| [23:46:00] | geoff__998e: | should work with vlc |
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