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Tuesday, August 23rd, 2005, 00:01 UTC
[00:01:00] swim: does anyone run knoppmyth? I just installed it on hda while windows was on hdb... but it wont boot
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[00:02:00] Krazylegz: You can't boot KnoppMyth?
[00:02:00] swim: no, it just sits on a black screen with a cursor
[00:06:00] lane: hmmm... still trying to figure out why some of my HDTV channels are having issues. I just took a look at top while I browsed channels, and the CPU usage ranged from 18% on the channels that played very well to about 48% on the channels that stutter badly. very odd...
[00:07:00] lane: (also, I do have a black and white osd, so I think I do have xvmc working)
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[00:14:00] CanadaBoy: where is fstab located?
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[00:15:00] Krazylegz: /etc/fstab
[00:15:00] Beirdo: you can't be serious
[00:15:00] Beirdo: that's just asking for ridicule :)
[00:15:00] CanadaBoy: lol
[00:15:00] brandon: Anyone know if the geforce 6xxx series cards have tearing problems when watching video streams? Apparently they do not have overlay surfaces as the fx 5xxxx series.
[00:16:00] Beirdo: what, you drink the water as it comes outta the Irving paper plant? :)
[00:16:00] Beirdo: (just kidding)
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[00:20:00] CanadaBoy: can samba handel windows dirs with " " (space) in them?
[00:20:00] kormoc: brandon, they do indeed have overlays
[00:20:00] laga: CanadaBoy: why not?
[00:20:00] kormoc: brandon, you might want to turn off XvMC use textures in your xorg.conf if it's on tho
[00:20:00] brandon: kormoc: are you sure, thunderbird in the nvidia channel mentioned that that was removed from the 6xxx series cards
[00:21:00] CanadaBoy: laga .. i don't know im attemting to add it into my fstab
[00:21:00] brandon: I don't have a 6xxx series card, just doing research on cards for others.
[00:22:00] kormoc: brandon, huh, google says I'm wrong actually.
[00:22:00] laga: CanadaBoy: man fstab
[00:22:00] CanadaBoy: doens't appear fstab can do it
[00:22:00] kormoc: CanadaBoy, it sure can, you just don't know how to do it :P
[00:23:00] CanadaBoy: kormoc: lol
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[00:23:00] kormoc: brandon, in that case, you want to enable XvMC use textures in your xorg.conf
[00:24:00] kormoc: brandon, that will fix the tearing in theory if it's not using the overlay (cause it's not there)
[00:24:00] brandon: kormoc: I used XvMC 2+ years ago, the quality when scaling is horrible, so I'd never use XvMC again.
[00:24:00] kormoc: brandon, XvMC is quite grand imho with scaling, a lot better then Xv itself is
[00:24:00] CanadaBoy: kormoc: can u point me in the right direction?
[00:24:00] kormoc: CanadaBoy, #samba would be the better help
[00:25:00] kormoc: CanadaBoy, or samba.org has docs
[00:25:00] Beirdo: "I used something that's changed for 2 years, it sucked 2 years ago, I'll never try it again"
[00:25:00] brandon: kormoc: you're joking right? :) .. how much have you tested XvMC?
[00:25:00] Beirdo: brandon: you know how stupid that sounds?
[00:25:00] kormoc: brandon, I run totally with XvMC now.
[00:25:00] kormoc: mplayer even uses XvMC
[00:25:00] brandon: beirdo: the problem is in the _hardware_ scaling on the cards, being poor quality, and hardware doesn't change if you let it sit for 2 years..
[00:26:00] Beirdo: the code that gets loaded into the hardware may change
[00:26:00] kormoc: 2 year old cards may suck hardware scaling, but my 5200/5800 doesn't
[00:27:00] brandon: kormoc: I've run fx5200's for 3 years with myth, and I've compared side by side at high res, and anytime I (up to a year ago before XvMC was broken, before it was fixed) it was much more blocky than XV.
[00:27:00] brandon: I can give it a try again, but XV in everyway except smoothness was better quality
[00:28:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[00:28:00] kormoc: all I know is, XvMC looks great on my box.
[00:28:00] brandon: what type of display? HDTV?
[00:28:00] CanadaBoy: y aman fstab doesn't give too much help
[00:28:00] kormoc: and it's the only way to get hardware accellerated 'overlays' on 6xxx, 7xxx cards evendently
[00:29:00] kormoc: brandon, 19" lcd and 15" lcds
[00:29:00] Tommck: oh.. itty bitty displays
[00:29:00] kormoc: CanadaBoy, you're looking up for stuff for samba, so look up samba docs
[00:29:00] brandon: kormoc: you may be right, I'll give it a try, just when scaling a 480i source to 1920p display looked very blocky
[00:29:00] Tommck: or use #samba ?
[00:29:00] Beirdo: duh
[00:29:00] Beirdo: of course it will
[00:29:00] CanadaBoy: working on it
[00:30:00] Beirdo: where do you expect the pixels to magically be created from?
[00:30:00] brandon: beirdo: more blocky using XvMC when compared to XV, or even X11 for display
[00:30:00] Tommck: Beirdo – your bad mood is showing :)
[00:30:00] brandon: beirdo: denoise and vector mapping algorithms of course! ;)
[00:30:00] kormoc: brandon, XvMC using textures uses the opengl engine to scale, different scaling then XvMC/Xv normally uses in anycase.
[00:32:00] brandon: kormoc: does time stretching and all OSD work 100% now with XvMC?
[00:33:00] kormoc: I know OSD does, I've never used time stretching, but I seem to recall others have before, quite well
[00:34:00] swim: folks if I try to select to boot from my windows drive from lilo prompt, it simply returns constant beeping until I manually shutdown the machine
[00:35:00] CanadaBoy: damit
[00:39:00] CanadaBoy: odd search strings :-
[00:39:00] CanadaBoy: :-(
[00:41:00] lane: so how do you enable xv? I see the checkbox for xvmc in the playback setting. Or is xv automatically used if you don't use xvmc (and if your card supports it)
[00:43:00] kormoc: lane, that's correct, as I understand it
[00:43:00] lane: ok
[00:44:00] lane: thanks, kormoc
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[00:48:00] beixaith: ooh, parallel bzip2
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[00:53:00] CanadaBoy: sweet .. esc + samba \040
[00:53:00] CanadaBoy: w00t
[00:53:00] CanadaBoy: w00t
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[01:25:00] HAKKISAK: hi
[01:26:00] HAKKISAK: Is the new binaries of mythtv, (installing from apt-get), do they include firewire support? basicly i'm asking if 0.18.1 if Firewire is enabled by default? previous versions you have to manually compile it. i can't find the changelog for my question. anybody with some insight?
[01:32:00] swim: alright whats the best way to use 2 hdds to share with windows and knoppmyth? (windows being the much smaller partition, only need it to work on access db)
[01:34:00] swim: any suggestions??
[01:35:00] HAKKISAK: seperate hardrives should work without partitioning
[01:36:00] HAKKISAK: you mean 1x HD with 2 partitions?
[01:36:00] HAKKISAK: i would do 2 seperate hard drives, and setup Samba to acess information between each other.
[01:37:00] Agrajag-: why would you need samba if you're only in 1 OS at a time?
[01:38:00] HAKKISAK: he wrote "2hdds tos sahre with windows and knoppmyth"
[01:38:00] HAKKISAK: share
[01:38:00] Agrajag-: so you think he means 2 computers? i dont think so.
[01:38:00] swim: na no need for samba
[01:39:00] swim: just 2 hdds in one comp
[01:39:00] HAKKISAK: i didn't say 2 computers. jeeze
[01:39:00] Agrajag-: swim: install windows first. choose the smallest size partition you need for that on either
[01:39:00] beixaith: So it makes even less sense?
[01:39:00] Agrajag-: HAKKISAK: then you don't need samba, stop confusing people
[01:39:00] HAKKISAK: i'm not confusing people. he said 2 HDDS with windows and knoppmyth
[01:39:00] beixaith: writing to ntfs is dangerous
[01:40:00] swim: see I was going to install win on the second drive, and then knoppmyth on the first, but even to install on the second drive windows says it needs a known partition on the drive its NOT installing on
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[01:40:00] beixaith: swim: So install it on the first drive.
[01:40:00] beixaith: Booting is hard. Let's go shopping!
[01:40:00] Agrajag-: HAKKISAK: so!? how are you going to use samba if linux isn't even booted!?
[01:40:00] ** beixaith drowns Intel **
[01:41:00] swim: then knoppmyth is a pain to get installed properly with lilo on the second drive... been trying
[01:41:00] HAKKISAK: Wow. you're really out ther agrajag. read first.
[01:41:00] beixaith: lilo is even worse than grub
[01:41:00] Agrajag-: HAKKISAK: you're making no sense. samba is no use in this situation – even swim said so
[01:42:00] HAKKISAK: why do you cause argurments agrajag.
[01:42:00] HAKKISAK: who cares.
[01:42:00] Agrajag-: because morons like you give idiotic "help"
[01:42:00] swim: yah i dont like lilo if i need to deal with dual boot, but knoppmyth (which I think requires a lot of work) installs it
[01:42:00] Gergo: swim – TRIED for days to get knoppmyth working – would not boot – some issues with the build I think.
[01:42:00] swim: Gergo, I think your right... what did you end up doing?
[01:42:00] Gergo: I am currently de-installing everything and starting over....
[01:43:00] beixaith: swim: I've never done a hard drive install of knoppix, but you can install grub from knoppix (I've had to fix it enough myself)
[01:43:00] Gergo: now my regular knoppix cd works just fine....
[01:43:00] swim: yah you can on knoppmyth too
[01:43:00] HAKKISAK: hasty hasty agrajag, calling people morons. haha.
[01:43:00] beixaith: haha
[01:44:00] swim: im just gonna install xp and knoppmyth on the same drive... and use the second drive as mythtv /cache or something
[01:44:00] Gergo: I'm on Mandriva 2005 – going to have to go back to 2.6.11 kernel, then re-install everything to get past this Module.symvers issue (its missing from the .12 kernels)
[01:44:00] ** beixaith tries out pkbzip2 **
[01:44:00] Agrajag-: yeah just use it as your recordings partition
[01:45:00] beixaith: well, pbzip2
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[01:45:00] HAKKISAK: =D
[01:45:00] Gergo: I had it almost working today (got blank screen anyway! LOL)
[01:45:00] swim: yah sounds like the easiest way Agrajag- and who knows if I need to in the future it wont be too hard to get rid of an xp partition
[01:45:00] swim: bbl
[01:45:00] swim: thx
[01:46:00] HAKKISAK: Is the new binaries of mythtv, (installing from apt-get), do they include firewire support? basicly i'm asking if 0.18.1 if Firewire is enabled by default? previous versions you have to manually compile it. i can't find the changelog for my question. anybody with some insight?
[01:46:00] beixaith: HAKKI: Yes, they do.
[01:47:00] HAKKISAK: awesome. do you have firewire setup yet beixiath?
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[01:52:00] awb4422: When I'm in mythweb under recorded programs, and click on the screenshot of the program, what is the intended behavior? am i supposed to get playback>?
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[01:59:00] xris: awb4422: are you in windows or linux?
[01:59:00] xris: if you're in windows, and have the dsmyth filters installed, it should play...
[01:59:00] xris: if you're in linux, it'll likely just download the file.
[01:59:00] swim: i wish there was an alternate knoppmyth like distro... i dont enjoy its install one bit
[01:59:00] xris: swim: so use fedora and follow jarod's guide.
[02:00:00] swim: i dont like fedora
[02:00:00] swim: is there a debian guide?
[02:00:00] xris: that'd be knopmyth. heh.
[02:00:00] swim: yah sort of... they should just be mythtv on debian, instead of trying to be theyre own distro
[02:01:00] awb4422: linux
[02:01:00] awb4422: if it downloads the file, thats fine too
[02:01:00] awb4422: i must have a setting wrong
[02:02:00] awb4422: i went through the conf file like the readme said, but when i click on the screenshot of the show, i get a mythweb that doesnt have any style, broken image links, and white bg
[02:02:00] awb4422: otherwise, mythweb works great
[02:02:00] Agrajag-: swim: mythtv on debian is easy as, if you're comfortable with debian, use
[02:02:00] Agrajag-: it
[02:03:00] swim: im pretty comfy with debian... i guess ill give it a go then
[02:04:00] swim: ok debian it is... apparently knoppmyth will install over anything on the drive... so i cant share a drive with windows
[02:06:00] awb4422: anyone on the mythweb problem?
[02:06:00] xris: awb4422: could be that you have the problem the rest of the world does in that apache freaks out with files > 2G
[02:06:00] xris: but I've never heard of that particular behavior.
[02:07:00] awb4422: i specifically recorded a 30 min show to test this
[02:07:00] awb4422: so it would be under 2G
[02:08:00] swim: so settingup mythtv on debian isnt too bad?
[02:08:00] xris: also check the mime type in the .htaccess file to make sure it lines up with your type of .nuv
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[02:08:00] xris: I'm headed home from work now... bug me later if you haven't figured it out by the time I show up again....
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[02:08:00] awb4422: k
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[02:26:00] lane: hi again... I've got an lirc problem. The remote presses register with irw, but not in myth. Is there an extra file in .mythtv that needs to be set up for myth to register lirc presses?
[02:27:00] Agrajag-: are you using irxevent or built in lirc support?
[02:27:00] lane: built in
[02:27:00] Agrajag-: have you made your ~/.mythtv/lircrc file?
[02:27:00] Agrajag-: (i thitnk that's it.. check the docs)
[02:27:00] lane: no, I haven't
[02:27:00] lane: I couldn't remember if that was needed
[02:28:00] lane: I'll take a look
[02:28:00] Agrajag-: yeah.. it is
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[02:32:00] lane: yeah – I see the section now. I had looked in the docs, but hadn't found it before
[02:33:00] lane: this is actually a reinstall. I thought I had copied all of my relevant config files, but I missed a couple, including this one
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[02:40:00] swim: ah windows install is so fun
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[02:43:00] outatime3: Anyone know the approximate size of the TV schedule download is? And is it required nightly? Thinking of putting a myth box at a location with only dial-out modem.
[02:45:00] lane: not sure what the size is, but no, it's not required nightly
[02:45:00] swim: hmm anyone heard of mythdora?
[02:45:00] lane: it downloads 2 weeks of data at a time
[02:45:00] lane: at least in the US
[02:46:00] outatime3: Thanks! I have a Tivo and know it will die someday.
[02:49:00] lane: np
[02:49:00] Raven_301: I was trying to urpmi mythtv-suite and this is what message I got – Some package requested cannot be installed:
[02:49:00] Raven_301: mythtv-suite-0.18.1–1.mdk10.2.thac.i586 (due to unsatisfied myththemes[>= 0.18.1]) Continue? (Y/n)
[02:50:00] Raven_301: What do I do now?
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[02:50:00] lane: cancel and try to install myththemes
[02:50:00] lane: xris: how was the Seattle traffic :)
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[02:51:00] Raven_301: lane: ok ... Is it just better to install mythtv and the other parts after?
[02:51:00] xris: lane: what traffic? I have a 4 mile commute on surface streets, with a total of 3 traffic lights.
[02:51:00] lane: nice
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[02:54:00] xris: and I see that kormoc actually took off at a reasonable hour, too.
[02:54:00] Raven_301: What is the best way to install mythtv and the plugins??
[02:54:00] xris: Raven_301: which distro are you most familiar with?
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[02:54:00] lane: Raven: urpmi should work, as long as your repo is set up right
[02:54:00] Raven_301: Mandriva
[02:55:00] xris: Raven_301: then that's the best one to start with.
[02:55:00] Raven_301: it's installed
[02:55:00] Raven_301: urpmi's setup
[02:55:00] lane: what's installed?
[02:56:00] Raven_301: do I need to install mythtv-suite? or is there a better way?
[02:56:00] beixaith: Seattle is where they shot 28 Days Later
[02:56:00] Raven_301: lane mandriva
[02:56:00] kormoc: dun dun DUN!
[02:57:00] kormoc: xris, wanna play with bluetooth! :P
[02:57:00] xris: kormoc: I don't think it'll work from here.
[02:57:00] awb4422: anyone using ubuntu – im trying to turn on short open tags and dont see them in php.ini
[02:57:00] xris: definitely hook it up to your phone, though.
[02:57:00] kormoc: xris, I missed a I in that line, hence why I took off when I did
[02:57:00] lane: Raven: can you install any of components?
[02:57:00] xris: awb4422: damn, thought I got all of those out of mythweb by now...
[02:58:00] awb4422: LOL
[02:58:00] xris: awb4422: search for: short_open_tag
[02:58:00] awb4422: i read the readme
[02:58:00] xris: awb4422: I've likely missed a few...
[02:58:00] awb4422: its not in there, im just going to write my own line
[02:58:00] xris: set it to On
[02:58:00] xris: that's what mine has.
[02:58:00] awb4422: yeah ok i just didnt see it its in there
[02:59:00] xris: missed a what? (ell or pipe?)
[02:59:00] Raven_301: lane: the read me I have said to just urpmi mythtv-suite ... I have tried any other way. Should I just to mythtv and the components after??
[02:59:00] awb4422: i didnt see the line
[02:59:00] Raven_301: lane: have = have not
[03:00:00] awb4422: ok – i think my problem is the video_dir option
[03:00:00] xris: Raven_301: so if you installed mythtv-suite, doesn't it just work? run mythtv-setup
[03:00:00] xris: awb4422: that's definitely a buggy issue.. partly fixed in svn.
[03:00:00] awb4422: well – the conf file says use a symlink to the real one..
[03:01:00] Raven_301: xris: when i urpi mythtv-suite this is what I get
[03:01:00] Raven_301: Some package requested cannot be installed:
[03:01:00] Raven_301: mythtv-suite-0.18.1–1.mdk10.2.thac.i586 (due to unsatisfied myththemes[>= 0.18.1])
[03:01:00] Raven_301: Continue? (Y/n)
[03:01:00] awb4422: so in /var/www/mythweb i should make a video dir that is symlinked to /video/recordings?
[03:01:00] xris: awb4422: in my case: video_dir -> /var/video/
[03:02:00] awb4422: and that is readable by the webserver?
[03:02:00] xris: if you make it so, yes.
[03:02:00] lane: Raven: try urpmi myththemes
[03:03:00] Raven_301: lane ok
[03:04:00] burly: does anyone use their remote to control Master or PCM volume, or do you all just control the program volume (e.g. xmms or MythTV) ?
[03:05:00] awb4422: lol i think i hosed it up
[03:05:00] awb4422: ok i have a directory /var/www/mythweb/video and i want to symlink that to /video/recordings
[03:05:00] burly: i see how to setup program volume control in lircrc but not master or PCM volume and it doesn't look like amixer or alsamixer take cmdline params to do such a thing
[03:05:00] awb4422: i thought it was ln -s video /video/recordings if im in the /var/www/mythweb dir
[03:06:00] burly: ln -s /var/www/mythweb/video /video/recordings
[03:06:00] awb4422: ahhhhh
[03:07:00] awb4422: wait no that didnt work
[03:07:00] awb4422: now theres a video directory in the /video/recordings directory
[03:07:00] awb4422: that is symlinked to /var/www/mythweb/video
[03:07:00] awb4422: wow my cli skills are retarded right now
[03:08:00] Raven_301: lane: I see the site has it under mythtv-themes not myththemes
[03:08:00] lane: ah
[03:08:00] xris: awb4422: the video storage directory is wherever YOU want to put it.
[03:09:00] xris: some have it in /mnt/stor/video, or /video/recordings or whatever.. I put mine in /var/video
[03:09:00] awb4422: oh ok
[03:09:00] burly: you probably did /var/www/mythweb/video/
[03:10:00] awb4422: ok lets start over..
[03:11:00] awb4422: my video directory is /video/recordings
[03:11:00] awb4422: where do i go from there lol
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[03:13:00] burly: you have /video/recordings
[03:13:00] burly: and you want a symlink in /var/www/mythweb/video ?
[03:13:00] thechris: need help setting up a hauppague pvr500mce
[03:13:00] burly: so that /var/www/mythweb/video points to /video/recordings?
[03:13:00] Mez: hola
[03:13:00] awb4422: yes burly
[03:14:00] beixaith: como estas?
[03:14:00] burly: ahh, then i misunderstood you before
[03:14:00] Mez: anyone have any idea why mythtv would report: 2005-08–23 01:19:46.703 Not compiled with any useable video output method. when it has been
[03:14:00] burly: ln -s /video/recordings/ /var/www/mythweb/video is what you want
[03:15:00] burly: ln -s <what you have> <where you want to put a symlink to what you have>
[03:15:00] beixaith: pbzip2 was 47.2% faster on a 4GB, highly-compressible file
[03:15:00] awb4422: lol ok one step better – 403 Forbidden Error
[03:16:00] beixaith: verboten!
[03:16:00] ip_goat_rodeo: any clue if the driver for the gv-mvp/rx is in the standard ivtv distro yet?
[03:17:00] ip_goat_rodeo: strange that it wasn't long ago, considering that more of them been sold then all hauppague cards put together.
[03:17:00] burly: awb4422: is that what apache is giving you if you try and serve up /var/www/mythweb/video ?
[03:18:00] burly: which is of course, a symlink to the actual content
[03:18:00] swim: anyone hear of mythdora?
[03:18:00] awb4422: burly – if i browse directory to the video directory, it works fine, i see the file list
[03:18:00] awb4422: but if i click on the screenshot of the show from within mythweb, i get the 403 error
[03:19:00] burly: ok
[03:19:00] burly: do you have FollowSymLinks on in your apache conf?
[03:19:00] awb4422: i found a thread on gossamer, but it deals with XP
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[03:20:00] burly: i recommend that you setup a vhost for this
[03:20:00] burly: as that will be the cleanist thing you can do
[03:20:00] awb4422: ok – would you walk me through that? ill do whatever you want
[03:20:00] mchou: man those guys who use dremel tools to mod cases must be insane.......
[03:20:00] burly: do you have a DNS entry or are you just using your IP ?
[03:21:00] awb4422: ip
[03:22:00] burly: ok, one sec
[03:24:00] ** xris prefers dns. cookies never quite work properly with ip **
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[03:33:00] thechris: anyone get a pvr150 or pvr500 working?
[03:33:00] xris: thechris: several of us.
[03:34:00] thechris: anything special i'm forgetting to do
[03:34:00] thechris: i keep getting "device busy" or "no signal" depending on program
[03:34:00] xris: #ivtv-dev
[03:35:00] xris: and/or on the ivtv mailing list.
[03:35:00] xris: drivers are still buggy.
[03:35:00] thechris: hmm. any commands to see what processes are using a device?
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[03:38:00] xris: thechris: yes, but I don't know them
[03:38:00] xris: and there he went
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[03:57:00] swim: ok i just went through a whole install process, which included installing windows on to drive 2, and then installing knoppmyth onto drive 1... rebooted after that, and now all I get is a black screen with a cursor up top... nothing more
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[03:58:00] burly: swim: sounds like you didn't get grub setup
[03:59:00] burly: you need to make sure the mbr is setup on the drive to use grub or whatever your bootloader is
[03:59:00] swim: hmm auto install is supposed toh ave taken care of it
[03:59:00] burly: perhaps,but you normally at least get an error if your MBR is setup and you have a bogus pointer
[03:59:00] burly: versus just a blank cursor, which is normally indicative of no MBR record
[03:59:00] swim: ok
[04:00:00] burly: if you can boot from a LiveCD/rescue disk
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[04:00:00] burly: and do the grub setup
[04:00:00] burly: that will more than likely fix at least that problem
[04:00:00] swim: yah I will
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[04:01:00] smoke_: anyone here have a ati remote wonder plus?
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[04:04:00] ip_goat_rodeo: any clue if this remote works without major pain and suffering? http://www.iodata.jp/prod/multimedia/tv/2003/ . . . it/index.htm
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[04:22:00] swim: wow #knoppmyth can be unfriendly... i think im giving up on that distro
[04:22:00] swim: partially because of that channel
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[04:24:00] xris: swim: if you're familiar with debian, why not just install mythtv manually?
[04:24:00] CyberKnet: how goes it xris?
[04:24:00] xris: CyberKnet: wow, long time no see.. we were just talking about you today.
[04:24:00] xris: wondering where you'd gotten off to.
[04:25:00] CyberKnet: new job would be horrified if I got in irc at work =)
[04:25:00] CyberKnet: haven't had time at home for it of late either.
[04:25:00] CyberKnet: a very sad state of affairs.
[04:25:00] swim: xris, i guess i will, it just seemed nice to not have to deal with setting hardware up
[04:26:00] CyberKnet: but... I'm not in china, so I can still get on IRC at least. So I'm grateful.
[04:29:00] xris: swim: the new debian installer should auto-detect most of it, no?
[04:29:00] xris: CyberKnet: ah
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[04:33:00] swim: xris, what about getting ivtv and evertyhing working?
[04:33:00] CyberKnet: how goes kormoc and the m179's?
[04:34:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, hihi!
[04:34:00] kormoc: I got them workin :)
[04:34:00] CyberKnet: hihi kormoc
[04:34:00] kormoc: finally :)
[04:34:00] CyberKnet: how is the quality from your source?
[04:35:00] kormoc: it's good overall
[04:35:00] kormoc: some channels are a tad more statically
[04:35:00] kormoc: *staticy
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[04:35:00] xris: swim: I never had much trouble.. but doesn't knopmyth have an apt repository associated with it? shouldn't be hard to add it in if you need to download the firmware for an ivtv card.
[04:36:00] awb4422: xris – where can i find a place or an .htaccess thats supposed to come with mythweb, mine seems to have gotten waxed
[04:37:00] xris: awb4422: mythtv.org?
[04:37:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: aah :| Sorry to hear that
[04:37:00] xris: actually, svn.mythtv.org — and then browse the source (mythweb is in trunk/mythplugins)
[04:37:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: stupid question, but have you tried amplifying the signal before any splits?
[04:37:00] kormoc: nope
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[04:39:00] awb4422: also, if i have a pvr-350, am i recording in mpeg2?
[04:39:00] GreyFoxx: yes
[04:40:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: The tuners are a bit sensitive. You might amplifying it as soon as you no longer need bi-directional communication (Although I hear there are some amplifiers out there that even provide for that without any problems)
[04:40:00] ** kormoc nods **
[04:40:00] kormoc: I shall look into that then
[04:41:00] swim: hrmm i was going to give mythdora a try but as the name suggests its fedora... im not so fond of rpm based distros
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[04:42:00] swim: xris, are you running on debian?
[04:42:00] swim: is anyone running mythtv on debian?
[04:43:00] Mez: 2005-08–23 03:43:15.306 Not compiled with any useable video output method.
[04:43:00] Mez: 2005-08–23 03:43:16.871 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
[04:43:00] Mez: 2005-08–23 03:43:16.871 Decoder not alive, and trying to play..
[04:43:00] Mez: 2005-08–23 03:43:17.256 Changing from None to None
[04:43:00] awb4422: im doing it on kubuntu
[04:43:00] Mez: can anyone tell me wtf that means
[04:44:00] Mez: good luck with it on kubuntu
[04:44:00] Mez: thats what I'm trying to work on now
[04:44:00] swim: i want to know is debian sid runs mythtv well
[04:44:00] lane: I'm having trouble getting mythweb set up. I'm getting a warning and an error when I try to access mythweb. Should the db_host, db_username, db_password, and db_dbname settings in /var/www/html/mythweb/config be the same as the corresponding settings in the mythfrontend general settings?
[04:45:00] lane: Warning at /var/www/html/mythweb/includes/mythbackend.php, line 102:
[04:45:00] lane: fsockopen() [function.fsockopen]: unable to connect to 192.168.2.6:6543 (Permission denied)
[04:45:00] lane: Fatal Error at /var/www/html/mythweb/includes/mythbackend.php, line 32:
[04:45:00] lane: Unable to connect to mythbackend, is it running?
[04:46:00] xris: swim: no, I use fedora... most of the devs use ubuntu
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[04:46:00] xris: kormoc: speaking of doc's, 40% off, code: DMFF4005
[04:46:00] kormoc: ooh, nice
[04:46:00] swim: xris, do you happen to know if debian sid will be alright with mythtv?
[04:47:00] xris: they were supposed to email me about that deal, but our fav' site got it first.
[04:47:00] xris: swim: not a clue
[04:47:00] swim: whats that a dell code?
[04:47:00] xris: kormoc: if you want to place an order, let me know... I might be getting stuff, and we can save on shipping.
[04:47:00] xris: swim: http://www.dmusastore.com/
[04:47:00] swim: ah
[04:48:00] kormoc: hrm
[04:48:00] ** kormoc ponders us to uk shoe sizes **
[04:49:00] Agrajag-: swim: i woudln't use sid
[04:49:00] Agrajag-: swim: go testing or stable
[04:49:00] Agrajag-: swim: im running testing and it's fine
[04:49:00] xris: kormoc: they have a conversion thing in there somewhere.
[04:49:00] swim: really? im not sure how old this is Agrajag- but this packager says the packages are intended for unstable:http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/
[04:50:00] Agrajag-: if i were you i'd compile from source. just apt-get all the dependancies
[04:50:00] Agrajag-: it's easy to do
[04:50:00] swim: uggh sounds tedious though
[04:50:00] Agrajag-: that's what i've done anyway
[04:50:00] Agrajag-: nah not really
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[04:50:00] Gogga: hello
[04:50:00] swim: is there a howto or anything to tell me what i need to get etc?
[04:51:00] Gogga: i updatd mplayer...and from now on, after capturing video mplayer gives me: If this file is an AVI, ASF or MPEG stream, please contact the author! does anybody have this too?
[04:51:00] kormoc: xris, they seem to be a bit more then I was hoping to spend, even with the 40% off
[04:52:00] xris: kormoc: ahh... dunno, guess I'm used to seeing $150+ for good hiking boots.
[04:53:00] CyberKnet: anyone sees a steal on a four port LSI or 3ware sata raid card please do let me know =)
[04:53:00] swim: Agrajag-, is there a howto or anything to tell me what i need to get compile etc?
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[04:54:00] xris: swim: apt-get build-dep
[04:54:00] swim: k
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[04:56:00] Agrajag-: swim: no howto that i know of. just use the tools debian provides. just start compiling, when it tells you don't have something, go install it
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[04:58:00] kormoc: xris, I'm looking mainly for sandles right now
[04:58:00] xris: ahh. yeah, not so good on the sandals there.
[04:59:00] Gogga: alright, after doing a apt-get remove mplayer, i type mplayer in the shell window and it still runs, obviously theres an old version still ther (0.92–3.3.2) how can i remove it ? (since apt-get remove mplayer shows it is not installed)
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[05:02:00] lane: grrr... still having issues with mythweb. Maybe it's permissons. Does the mythtv need to have any permissions to /var/www/html/mythweb or subfolders?
[05:02:00] lane: currently apache owns all of that
[05:02:00] lane: and I'm still getting this warning:
[05:02:00] lane: Warning at /var/www/html/mythweb/includes/init.php, line 17:
[05:02:00] lane: main(config/conf.php) [function.main]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory
[05:03:00] Gogga: anybody?
[05:06:00] Agrajag-: Gogga: did you install from source at some point?
[05:07:00] Gogga: agrajag -> originaly it was installed from Knoppmyth CD
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[05:08:00] swim: is fedora easier to use for mythtv install/setup? after bothering with knoppmyth im a little burnt out screwing around (im a home freebsd user but it takes less time to setup than that did)
[05:08:00] Gogga: then i did a apt-get install mplayer and it installed a version of 1.0-pre7
[05:08:00] Agrajag-: Gogga: do a 'which mplayer'
[05:09:00] Gogga: ummh, what i just typed is all i did....i didn't specify mplayer-nogui or mplayer-586 or anything like that.
[05:10:00] Agrajag-: what's that to do with the price of eggs
[05:10:00] Gogga: if i try to do apt-get install mplayer-nogui it tells me i havef 3 dependiencies libbio2jack0, libdirectfb and libjack0.80.0
[05:10:00] Gogga: but i couldn't install the dependencies manualy
[05:10:00] Agrajag-: did you do 'which mplayer'?
[05:11:00] Gogga: no, should i tyhpe it? hold on.
[05:11:00] Gogga: it says /usr/local/bin/mplayer
[05:11:00] Agrajag-: ok, how'd that get there? you installed from source?
[05:12:00] Gogga: naw i didn't, i dont even know how to install from source...i'm kinda new
[05:12:00] Gogga: apt-get is all i know.
[05:12:00] Agrajag-: ok.. i dunno what knoppmyth does but it seems very strange if that put it there
[05:12:00] Gogga: why where should it of been>
[05:12:00] Gogga: ?
[05:13:00] Agrajag-: see /usr/local is the special place on debian for non package managed files
[05:13:00] Agrajag-: so any .deb should not ever go there. hence you still being able to run it
[05:13:00] Gogga: oh.
[05:13:00] Gogga: i see
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[05:13:00] Agrajag-: and dpkg doesn't think it's installed
[05:13:00] Gogga: what can i do? ij ust want to get rid of it, and get a working copy installed.
[05:14:00] Agrajag-: so you're pretty screwed, i guess you'll have to manually install it
[05:14:00] Agrajag-: uninstall rather
[05:14:00] Agrajag-: which means manually removing the files
[05:14:00] Gogga: how do i go abouts on manually removing all associated files for mplayer
[05:14:00] Gogga: damn this sucks.
[05:14:00] Agrajag-: well you have to find all the files in /usr/local which mplayer would've put there
[05:14:00] Agrajag-: and rm them
[05:15:00] Agrajag-: im pretty sure though, if /usr/bin is ahead of your /usr/local/bin in your PATH, if you just apt-get install mplayer, you'll be using the apt-get'd one
[05:15:00] Agrajag-: to make sure, apt-get install mplayer, do 'which mplayer' and it'll tell you which one it's using
[05:15:00] Gogga: uggggh....that seems hard for a newbie like me.
[05:15:00] Gogga: k let me try
[05:15:00] Agrajag-: just apt-get install mplayer
[05:15:00] Agrajag-: which mplayer
[05:16:00] Agrajag-: if it's /usr/bin/mplayer, you're probably ok
[05:17:00] Gogga: k its installig..
[05:17:00] Gogga: for your info Setting up mplayer (1.0-pre7.cvs20050816–0.1)
[05:17:00] Gogga: after i typed which mplayer
[05:17:00] Gogga: i get /usr/local/bin/mplayer
[05:18:00] Agrajag-: k.. well you can just run it with /usr/bin/mplayer
[05:18:00] Agrajag-: or you can remove /usr/local/bin/mplayer
[05:18:00] Agrajag-: (but /usr/local/ mplayer related files will still be hanging around)
[05:18:00] Gogga: oh hh
[05:18:00] Agrajag-: but then just 'mplayer' will run /usr/bin/mplayer
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[05:19:00] Agrajag-: but this is a screwy situation to be in – if i were you i'd try to find out how mplayer got there
[05:19:00] Agrajag-: so you have a chance of removing it properly
[05:19:00] Gogga: damn
[05:20:00] Gogga: well /usr/bin/mplayer played the mpeg file atlesat now.... i guess i can reference that location in mythtv
[05:20:00] Agrajag-: yep you can do that
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[05:22:00] Gogga: but still i dont see how this could of happened... i did add a source in my /etc/apt/sources.list you think that apt repository is what let me install 'mplayer' simply by typing 'apt-get install mplayer' i remember long ago it usualy asked me what i wnat, mplayer-nogui, mplayer-586, mplayer-386, mplayer-k6
[05:23:00] elitch: got a directv serial question... i can change channels via serial with dtvcon in windows but the directv.pl script in linux gives timeout error
[05:23:00] elitch: serial port works with minicom in linux too
[05:23:00] elitch: any ideas?
[05:23:00] Agrajag-: Gogga: yeah... but they wouldn't have gone in /usr/local
[05:25:00] Gogga: oh ok
[05:26:00] mishehu: Agrajag-: is your nickname a character in the guide?
[05:26:00] Agrajag-: yeah
[05:29:00] awb4422: I'm trying to connect to my master backend via a remote frontend. I connect to the db fine and dandy, but when I go to play a show, nothing plays, and i traced it in a console to this error: 2005-08–22 22:26:51.715 RingBuffer::RingBuffer(): Failed to open remote file (myth://127.0.0.1:6543/1049_20050822180000_20050822190000.nuv)
[05:29:00] awb4422: File not found: myth://127.0.0.1:6543/1049_20050822180000_20050822190000.nuv
[05:29:00] awb4422: Where do i set the 127.0.0.1 to be something else – i thought i did it all in mythtv-setup
[05:29:00] elitch: anyone gotten directv.pl to work with RCA reciever?
[05:29:00] mishehu: Agrajag-: which character was agrajag? was he the guy who kept getting killed inadvertantly by arthur?
[05:29:00] Agrajag-: mishehu: yeah
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[05:40:00] smoke_: anyone here using lirc?
[05:44:00] Agrajag-: yeah
[05:45:00] smoke_: Agrajag-, when i run mode2 it isnt registering my device... what else do i need to have to get it to work? (my remote is supported),a nd i see it in the usb devices in /proc ...
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[05:47:00] Agrajag-: k i dunno about usb remotes.. but when you say it's not registering your device – what's the error?
[05:47:00] Agrajag-: is lircd running?
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[05:57:00] smoke_: yeayh lircd is running
[05:57:00] smoke_: i run
[05:57:00] smoke_: mode2 --device=/dev/lirc0
[05:57:00] smoke_: and ntohign happens .. :/
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[06:08:00] Agrajag-: do cat /dev/lirc0 and see if you get anything
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[06:22:00] psm321: hi
[06:23:00] psm321: a lot of my recordings aren't beign auto-transcoded anymore (but some still are) and i can't figure out why... also it tends to be specific programs that have the problem... any ideas?
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[06:30:00] haxwell: yo
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[06:37:00] psm321: hi
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[06:41:00] haxwell: I'm looking for GUI size/position values to use with a PVR350
[06:41:00] haxwell: I'm hoping to skip the trial and error but I have not found any posted anywhere yet
[06:42:00] haxwell: Trying to keep the overscanned video but get the OSD and the GUI to fit on the screen
[06:42:00] travolta: psm321, check the recording profile for the show
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[06:58:00] goodwill: anyone here uses Matrox G400 ?
[06:58:00] ip_goat_rodeo: ooo, ancient hardware...
[06:58:00] goodwill: I got a number for free I am trying to make them work for something
[06:59:00] goodwill: I think I must have read every little bit about configuring from all over
[06:59:00] goodwill: and still no luck
[06:59:00] ip_goat_rodeo: the dual-head ones are semi-useful but other ones are too slow to be much use for anything.
[07:00:00] Agrajag-: the g400 is a quality card
[07:00:00] goodwill: it is dual head
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[07:00:00] ip_goat_rodeo: I used to run dual-head setups on them all the time. Was about cheapest way to go back about 5 years ago
[07:02:00] FinnTux: anyone here use cvs version of mythtv?
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[07:03:00] FinnTux: or is it svn version? :)
[07:06:00] goodwill: so no matrox users?
[07:06:00] ip_goat_rodeo: not in years
[07:08:00] Agrajag-: i used to be.. not for a few years now though ;)
[07:08:00] psm321: travolta: what exactly should i be looking for?
[07:08:00] Agrajag-: but seriously they were really good cards
[07:08:00] FinnTux: I have a G100 (or something) PCI card as my secondary card...
[07:09:00] Agrajag-: goodwill: are they pci or agp?
[07:09:00] goodwill: agp
[07:09:00] ip_goat_rodeo: I used matrox cards back as far as the original S3 86C928-based ones
[07:09:00] goodwill: g400
[07:09:00] FinnTux: if you know what do do with them, send one to me :)
[07:10:00] Agrajag-: yeah i'll take them off your hands if you can't think of what to do with them too :D
[07:11:00] psm321: sell them on ebay :)
[07:12:00] goodwill: well some of us are trying to build a mythtv for himself and their family
[07:12:00] psm321: travolta: whoops you said profile, not schedule... yeah autotranscode is enabled in the profile
[07:12:00] goodwill: :-P
[07:12:00] goodwill: now I knwo thats outrangeous
[07:12:00] goodwill: :-P
[07:14:00] psm321: huh?
[07:15:00] Agrajag-: goodwill: well.. just give it a go.. i reckon they should do fine
[07:15:00] goodwill: Agrajag-: eh?
[07:16:00] goodwill: Agrajag-: I've been fighting to make tv out work on them
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[07:18:00] Agrajag-: oh right
[07:18:00] swim2: hey folks, just installed debian, then trying to install mythtv with packages, and apt fails at mythtv-backend... telling me something about mysql not being setup properly?
[07:18:00] Agrajag-: didn't see your original question
[07:19:00] swim2: failed to connect to database
[07:20:00] swim2: cant connect to local mysql server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.socket
[07:20:00] swim2: '
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[07:21:00] stevenm: Hi
[07:22:00] swim2: Agrajag-: can you help?
[07:22:00] stevenm: Trying to run frontend and backend on two separate computers. So do both machines need their own mysql servers?
[07:22:00] stevenm: Or does the machine running frontend connect to the backend's mysql server?
[07:22:00] Agrajag-: swim2: i haven't installed from debian packages before
[07:23:00] Agrajag-: swim2: but have you got mysql installed/running?
[07:23:00] swim2: installed yes running i dont think so
[07:23:00] Agrajag-: you need mysql-common and mysql-server
[07:23:00] swim2: Agrajag-: when I run it 'mysql' iget the same error
[07:23:00] Agrajag-: well to start it, do /etc/init.d/mysql start
[07:23:00] swim2: oh
[07:23:00] Agrajag-: don't run it like that
[07:24:00] Agrajag-: that's the client not the server anyway
[07:24:00] swim2: Agrajag-: hmm it says it failed and to take a look at the log... where would that be?
[07:25:00] swim2: do I need to have mysqld running first?
[07:26:00] swim2: hmm /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock doesnt exist
[07:26:00] Agrajag-: check the log.. /var/log/mysql/*
[07:27:00] swim2: Agrajag-: empty :\
[07:28:00] swim2: maybe I should just install mythtv on fedora since someone has a supposssedly great howto
[07:29:00] stevenm: Hi. Trying to start live tv on a computer running the frontend, get this
[07:29:00] stevenm: 2005-08–23 01:28:46.514 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.1.102:6543 (try 1 of 5)
[07:29:00] stevenm: 2005-08–23 01:28:46.522 Using protocol version 15
[07:29:00] stevenm: Connection timed out.
[07:29:00] stevenm: ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/qt/3/include/qvaluelist.h (373)
[07:29:00] stevenm: 2005-08–23 01:28:46.542 RemoteFile::openSocket(control socket):
[07:29:00] stevenm: Could not connect to server "" @ port -1
[07:29:00] stevenm: 2005-08–23 01:28:46.543 RemoteFile::openSocket(ringbuffer data socket):
[07:29:00] stevenm: Could not connect to server "" @ port -1
[07:29:00] stevenm: 2005-08–23 01:28:46.543 RingBuffer::RingBuffer(): Failed to open remote file (QUERY_RECORDER 1)
[07:29:00] stevenm: 2005-08–23 01:28:46.549 Disable DPMS
[07:29:00] stevenm: ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/qt/3/include/qvaluelist.h (373)
[07:29:00] stevenm: woah
[07:29:00] stevenm: Any idea what's wrong?
[07:30:00] adante: ahh the good old qvaluelist problem
[07:30:00] adante: I used to have it but i'm afraid I can't remember how I fixed it
[07:30:00] adante: possibly just recompiled everything under the sun
[07:31:00] stevenm: aww great
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[07:31:00] stevenm: I don't suppose it's possible to stream TV over WIFI :)
[07:31:00] goodwill: this odd
[07:31:00] goodwill: it does nto seem to like the s-video table
[07:34:00] stevenm: so what's with this qvaluelist deal?
[07:36:00] goodwill: ok progress
[07:37:00] goodwill: its black and white though
[07:39:00] stevenm: Now getting this crap- File not found: QUERY_RECORDER 1
[07:39:00] stevenm: What's that supposed to mean
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[07:45:00] CCFL_Man: with the myth plugins, are they handled by the backend server or the frontend?
[07:47:00] Agrajag-: what do you mean "handled"?
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[07:51:00] Riff-Raff: CCFL_Man: FE
[07:54:00] goodwill: hmm
[07:54:00] CCFL_Man: Agrajag-: do i install the plugins on the front or back end?
[07:54:00] CCFL_Man: Riff-Raff: ahh
[07:54:00] goodwill: so S-Video cable does not see to work here (at least on linux)
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[08:04:00] smoke_: anyone here using lirc?
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[08:11:00] FinnTux: I use lirc
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[08:17:00] goodwill: so odd, rgb cable works, s-video does not
[08:18:00] goodwill: the cable ok....
[08:18:00] goodwill: so odd
[08:18:00] smoke_: anyone ehre using lirc?
[08:20:00] Agrajag-: yeah
[08:20:00] FinnTux: <FinnTux> I use lirc
[08:20:00] FinnTux: I am
[08:21:00] smoke_: u using a usb remote?
[08:21:00] Agrajag-: smoke_: you never answered before wheni asked if you got anything from cat /dev/lirc0 and pressed buttons
[08:22:00] smoke_: oh
[08:22:00] smoke_: k
[08:22:00] smoke_: lemme check
[08:22:00] smoke_: when i cat /dev/lirc0 it sayas invalid arguemnt ?
[08:23:00] smoke_: maybe im missing some kernel module? .. i dont think so tho...
[08:24:00] Agrajag-: do you have lirc stuff loaded and lircd running?
[08:24:00] ldam: smoke_, is lircd running?
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[08:25:00] smoke_: yeah
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[08:30:00] Agrajag-: sure you've got the correct lirc module for your remote loaded?
[08:30:00] smoke_: yeah ...
[08:30:00] smoke_: i have an ati remote wonder ...
[08:30:00] FinnTux: do you have /dev/lirc0 ?
[08:30:00] smoke_: it shows up in /proc/bus/usb/device
[08:30:00] smoke_: yes i see /dev/lirc0
[08:31:00] adante: has anybody tried recording 4 shows simultaneously on a standard 7200rpm ide drive?
[08:31:00] FinnTux: what does "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" say?
[08:31:00] FITH: No, but I'm guessing 4mb/sec or so won't kill it
[08:32:00] smoke_: my keyboard and mouse thats all
[08:32:00] FinnTux: just guessing here cos, my hauppauge dvb card remote shows up as /dev/input/eventX
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[08:33:00] FITH: adante: I've had two front ends reading and one backend writing (3mb/sec or so) on an NFS mounted drive and it didn't blink... on a real disk you'll have a LOT of head room
[08:33:00] FITH: Assuming it's a compressed non-HDTV stream (I'm coming off a PVR-350)
[08:34:00] smoke_: hmmm
[08:35:00] ** xris grumbles **
[08:35:00] xris: I don't think nuvexport works at all with HD content.
[08:35:00] FinnTux: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_LIRC#Ati_remote_ . . . .28atiusb.29
[08:35:00] FinnTux: you have ati_remote loaded?
[08:36:00] smoke_: i thought id ont need that
[08:36:00] FinnTux: and lirc_dev
[08:36:00] smoke_: lemme check
[08:36:00] smoke_: im using lirc_atiusb and lirc_dev
[08:36:00] smoke_: cuz ati_remote wont work with revision 2
[08:37:00] FinnTux: ok
[08:37:00] smoke_: i dont have errors in dmesg eihter
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[08:38:00] FinnTux: do you have /etc/lirc/lircd.conf in place?
[08:38:00] FinnTux: or /etc/lircd.conf
[08:38:00] smoke_: i have /etc/lircd.conf
[08:38:00] FinnTux: whichever it is in your distro
[08:39:00] FinnTux: have you tried "irw"?
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[08:40:00] smoke_: no
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[08:41:00] thechris: still having issues with mythfilldatabase
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[08:43:00] FinnTux: smoke_, does it work?
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[08:43:00] smoke_: FinnTux, iew?
[08:43:00] smoke_: irw
[08:43:00] smoke_: ?
[08:43:00] FinnTux: yes
[08:44:00] smoke_: i run it...
[08:44:00] smoke_: i see it connecting to the lircd ..
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[08:44:00] smoke_: but when i push buttons nothing happens
[08:45:00] smoke_: the receiver is the little box type thing with the wire coming out right? :)
[08:45:00] FinnTux: :)
[08:45:00] FinnTux: I suppose so
[08:46:00] FinnTux: how close are you to the receiver?
[08:46:00] FinnTux: can you see it at all? :)
[08:46:00] smoke_: yeah
[08:46:00] smoke_: i see it right here
[08:46:00] smoke_: im next to it.
[08:47:00] Krazylegz: Could one of you fine individuals with a free moment please PM me? I need some very quick (15s) assistance.
[08:47:00] FinnTux: and no error messages at all?
[08:47:00] FinnTux: batteries are ok?
[08:48:00] smoke_: yeah
[08:48:00] smoke_: heh
[08:48:00] smoke_: no error messages :(
[08:48:00] smoke_: what modules should i have loaded?
[08:49:00] FinnTux: I guess lirc_atiusb and lirc_dev
[08:49:00] thechris: i can't seem to get a picture in mythtv, tvtime, or kdetv. also does mythtv use OSS?
[08:49:00] smoke_: shouldnt i have the i2o crap loaded? or no?
[08:50:00] FinnTux: dunno, but I suppose loading lirc_atiusb should load all needed modules
[08:50:00] smoke_: hmmmm
[08:50:00] smoke_: :(
[08:50:00] goodwill: hmmm
[08:51:00] goodwill: why the hell do I only get black and white image
[08:51:00] goodwill: hmmm
[08:51:00] thechris: i get static... any help?
[08:53:00] Krazylegz: Matrox? Man, I used to have a Mystique, but that was back before I even knew what Linux was.
[08:54:00] thechris: yep. first try — white screen. second try — static, thrid try — black.
[08:54:00] FinnTux: hmmm, sorry smoke_. I think I'm out of ideas.
[08:54:00] smoke_: damn
[08:54:00] Krazylegz: thechris,goodwill: You two are both using Matrox cards?
[08:54:00] FinnTux: well, does "irrecord" work?
[08:55:00] goodwill: Krazylegz: I am using Matrox G400
[08:56:00] thechris: Krazylegz: pvr500
[08:56:00] Krazylegz: Oh, sorry.
[08:56:00] Krazylegz: I misread.
[08:56:00] smoke_: let me check
[08:56:00] Krazylegz: goodwill: Are you using the framebuffer?
[08:56:00] goodwill: Krazylegz: yes
[08:57:00] Krazylegz: I see a tutorial here on it in Google. Did you try that?
[08:57:00] Krazylegz: http://www.flashdance.cx/tv-out-mga-fb.html
[08:57:00] smoke_: yeah dont work
[08:57:00] goodwill: Krazylegz: teh standard set up
[08:58:00] goodwill: modprobe i2c-matroxfb
[08:58:00] goodwill: modprobe matroxfb_Ti3026
[08:58:00] goodwill: modprobe matroxfb_crtc2
[08:58:00] goodwill: modprobe matroxfb_maven
[08:58:00] goodwill: matroxset -f /dev/fb1 -m 0
[08:58:00] goodwill: matroxset -f /dev/fb0 -m 3
[08:58:00] goodwill: matroxset -f /dev/fb0 -o 1 2
[08:58:00] goodwill: fbset -xres 800 -yres 600
[08:58:00] goodwill: setterm -cursor off
[08:58:00] goodwill: setterm -blank 0
[08:59:00] Krazylegz: Did you update your lilo or Grub setup at all?
[08:59:00] FinnTux: smoke_, must be a driver thing then...
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[08:59:00] smoke_: hmm kl
[08:59:00] quink: hello.
[08:59:00] FinnTux: lircd is not getting anything from the receiver
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[09:02:00] FinnTux: what lirc version you have?
[09:02:00] smoke_: the newest. i htink .8.4 or something
[09:02:00] goodwill: Krazylegz: I am doing it manually (lilo uses vesa)
[09:03:00] smoke_: how do i skip my linux box bootup? with gdm?
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[09:03:00] thechris: smoke_: you mean the kernel loading — text scrolling part?
[09:04:00] FinnTux: http://www.bootsplash.org/
[09:04:00] smoke_: naa
[09:05:00] smoke_: like ... for it to autologin your user etc.
[09:05:00] smoke_: kdm/gdm deal?
[09:05:00] FinnTux: yes
[09:05:00] FinnTux: you can configure them to auto-login someone
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[09:05:00] FinnTux: at least kdm
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[09:08:00] Krazylegz: goodwill: You're right, you have a monitor setup too.
[09:08:00] Krazylegz: Sorry, it's late here.
[09:09:00] Krazylegz: Are you getting a pattern?
[09:09:00] goodwill: Krazylegz: I get everything ok
[09:09:00] thechris: smoke_: in gentoo, its in /etc/rc.conf
[09:09:00] goodwill: Krazylegz: its just black and white
[09:10:00] goodwill: Krazylegz: when teh onitor has color
[09:10:00] Krazylegz: OH.
[09:10:00] Krazylegz: That's odd. How much VRAM is on the card?
[09:10:00] goodwill: 32
[09:10:00] goodwill: mb
[09:11:00] goodwill: and teh cable is ok, I tested it
[09:11:00] goodwill: and so it the card
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[09:15:00] Krazylegz: Is it 800x600 like you specified?
[09:18:00] goodwill: Krazylegz: I tried a number of different ones
[09:18:00] goodwill: Krazylegz: does nto seem to affect the color
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[09:21:00] thechris: is there anyway to manually set the channels... mythfilldatabase fails telling me to set my ip...
[09:22:00] Krazylegz: goodwill: Yes, but does the resolution actually change?
[09:23:00] goodwill: Krazylegz: yes
[09:25:00] thechris: ok, i'm back to a black screen
[09:25:00] Krazylegz: This is no fun. Get a newer card. :-)
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[09:29:00] thechris: hmm. couldn't get out of mythtv... had to kill X
[09:30:00] Krazylegz: thechris: You know that you can do ctrl-alt-F1 to get back to the console, then login, kill mythfrontend, logout and then do alt-F7 to go back to X?
[09:31:00] thechris: how do i change channels?
[09:31:00] Krazylegz: Well, it sounds like your channels aren't setup in MythTV, so you can't change channels in there.
[09:32:00] thechris: how do i setup channels in mythtv
[09:32:00] Krazylegz: Well, you said you can't do mythfilldatabase, and I don't know another way.
[09:32:00] Krazylegz: Which card are you using?
[09:33:00] thechris: pvr500
[09:33:00] thechris: it seems the channels are listed now
[09:33:00] Krazylegz: I think you can try the ptune.pl script.
[09:33:00] Krazylegz: Ah, well that's good.
[09:33:00] thechris: but i can't change between them
[09:33:00] thechris: and all i get is static
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[09:35:00] thechris: hmm. back to black
[09:37:00] Krazylegz: Did you try anything other than MythTV for changing channels?
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[09:39:00] thechris: tvtime and kdetv don't work either
[09:39:00] thechris: tvtime complains about videoinput: Card failed to allocate capture buffers: Invalid argument
[09:40:00] thechris: kdetv: WARNING: ... failed. kdetv likely does not to work with your device and/or your current filter config.
[09:42:00] Krazylegz: Sounds like you have the wrong tuner type.
[09:43:00] thechris: explain
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[09:45:00] Krazylegz: In your modules.conf (or the appropriate file for your distro), you may need to set something like type=39, etc.
[09:45:00] Krazylegz: Depends on which version of the ivtv driver you are using, and if the autodetect works or not (ivtv 2.x <=)
[09:46:00] thechris: using 0.37c
[09:46:00] thechris: where would i set type=39
[09:46:00] Krazylegz: Which distro?
[09:47:00] Krazylegz: Also, 39 may not be the right one for you. I have a PVR-350.
[09:48:00] thechris: gentoo
[09:48:00] thechris: i have various modules.d files
[09:49:00] thechris: it seems bttv and ivtv are both listed
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[09:49:00] Krazylegz: Try editing /etc/modules.d/ivtv .
[09:49:00] Krazylegz: Make a backup first.
[09:50:00] thechris: hmm. now i'm getting device busy...
[09:50:00] thechris: is there a command to find out what process is using a device
[09:52:00] FinnTux: lsof or fuser
[09:55:00] thechris: and when i change modules.conf, do i have to reboot?
[09:56:00] FinnTux: not, if you make all changes by hand
[09:56:00] FinnTux: changing modeules.conf activates those changes in the next boot
[09:56:00] FinnTux: modules.conf even
[09:56:00] thechris: ok, now its back to invalid argument
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[10:00:00] Krazylegz: Did you compile ivtv yourself?
[10:01:00] thechris: from portage
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[10:03:00] Krazylegz: Oh. Hmm.
[10:03:00] thechris: 2005-08–23 03:09:14.791 Decoder not alive, and trying to play..
[10:03:00] thechris: now mythtv freezes and has to be killed
[10:04:00] Krazylegz: Try compiling it yourself, and be sure to use the tuner.ko module from ivtv and not from v4l2.
[10:05:00] thechris: it late. i'll have to try that tomorrow.
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[11:02:00] ip_goat_rodeo: even if you got it working, all you'd be able to watch would be infomercials at this hour
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[11:23:00] pix_: i anyone can help me mith dvb-t ? i used the autoscan,it discovered 3 channels, and when i run mythbackend & mythfrontend it says:
[11:24:00] pix_: "DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup."
[11:24:00] pix_: and the dvb_channels table in mysqlis empty
[11:26:00] pix_: any idea ?
[11:26:00] pix_: my card work fine hith mplayer
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[12:17:00] sdousley: hi guys, anyone around to help? i get an error on running "mythfilldatabase"
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[12:31:00] sdousley: 2005-08–23 11:28:49.369 Protocol error: 'h' is not a valid size prefix. 100 bytes pending.
[12:31:00] sdousley: 2005-08–23 11:28:49.369 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION:
[12:31:00] sdousley: error resceduling id -1 in ScheduledRecording::signalChange
[12:31:00] sdousley: i keep getting that at the end of mythfilldatabase, anyone any ideas?
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[12:45:00] orangeacid: hey sdousley
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[12:45:00] sdousley: hi orangeacid
[12:45:00] orangeacid: lol
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[12:47:00] orangeacid: lol ur right sdosley, it really is dead
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[13:01:00] fatmatt: anyone running an analog bt878 card?
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[13:02:00] sdousley: fatmatt: i am
[13:02:00] laga: GreyFoxx: hey! i'd love to test your Greynux now :)
[13:03:00] fatmatt: are you using a recent (2.6.1x) kernel? I'm trying to work out why my sound isn;t working
[13:03:00] sdousley: fatmatt: 2.6.12
[13:03:00] sdousley: fatmatt: pm me what u have in lsmod. i had the same problem
[13:04:00] sdousley: anyone know anything about the errors i was getting from mythfilldatabase? (pasted above)
[13:06:00] fatmatt: sdousley: your database problem, Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: looks like maybe a difference between backend/mysql versions maybe???
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[13:07:00] sdousley: fatmatt: meaning?
[13:07:00] sdousley: i have changed the backend port to 3306 (mysql port) since that seemed to help it
[13:07:00] k-man_: evening all
[13:08:00] k-man_: anyone know what would be involved in installing mythgame to a mythtv setup that was installed using the .debs?
[13:08:00] k-man_: Agrajag-, are you awake?
[13:10:00] fatmatt: I've had a couple of mismatches between backend and frontend versions, similar errors to that
[13:11:00] sdousley: how can i solve this then? This is on gentoo, so i just followed the gentoo wiki on installing and got that
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[13:22:00] k-man_: fatmatt, so you compiled the mythgame seperately and installed it?
[13:22:00] fatmatt: k-man_: I haven't managed to get mythgame to work yet, I haven't had time
[13:28:00] k-man_: fatmatt, oh
[13:28:00] k-man_: ok
[13:28:00] k-man_: me either
[13:28:00] k-man_: but i'd really like to
[13:29:00] k-man_: i'd like to know if you can play any games using the remote
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[13:39:00] sdousley: anyone able to help? I just noticed mythbackend fails to start saying:
[13:39:00] sdousley: QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket
[13:39:00] sdousley: Failed to bind to port 6543
[13:39:00] laga: that means that it's already running.
[13:40:00] sdousley: ps aux | grep myth doesn't show anything runniung
[13:41:00] sdousley: now it's also telling me: Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy
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[13:49:00] k-man_: oh
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[13:53:00] sdousley: still get that error after i try a reboot.
[13:55:00] fatmatt: sdousley: what "pidof mythbackend " say?
[13:56:00] k-man_: fatmatt, ah, good idea
[13:56:00] sdousley: nothing
[13:56:00] fatmatt: are you logged in as root?
[13:56:00] sdousley: i'm trying it as root yeh
[13:56:00] fatmatt: didn't you change the backend port?
[13:57:00] sdousley: where?
[13:57:00] sdousley: in the mythsetup?
[13:57:00] fatmatt: <sdousley> i have changed the backend port to 3306 (mysql port) since that seemed to help it
[13:57:00] sdousley: ah, yeh, i changed that back to 6543 now
[13:58:00] fatmatt: theres not a lock file still active is there? /var/run/myth.. ?
[13:58:00] sdousley: there's no /var/run/myth* folder
[13:58:00] k-man_: sdousley, so your still getting that error?
[13:59:00] k-man_: about can't bind port?
[13:59:00] sdousley: there's a nfslockfile.lock in /mnt/store (where it's storing the data)
[13:59:00] sdousley: kyeh
[13:59:00] sdousley: i just removed that nfs lock file, and got the same
[13:59:00] fatmatt: you don't have a /var/run/mythtv directory?
[13:59:00] k-man_: sdousley, geez
[13:59:00] sdousley: k-man_: yeh, i'm still getting it
[13:59:00] sdousley: fatmatt: no i dont
[13:59:00] k-man_: don't just go wildly removing lock files!
[13:59:00] fatmatt: I've got one...
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[14:00:00] sdousley: k-man_: noted.
[14:00:00] fatmatt: /var/run/mythtv/mythbackend.pid
[14:01:00] fatmatt: does setup create the /var/run/mythtv directory or is it created when mythbackend starts?
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[14:03:00] sdousley: u askin me? or someone else?
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[14:06:00] k-man_: no idea
[14:06:00] k-man_: sdousley, how did you originaly set up myth?
[14:06:00] k-man_: sdousley, which version do you currently have?
[14:07:00] sdousley: k-man_: i followed the gentoo wiki.
[14:07:00] k-man_: oh
[14:07:00] sdousley: and it's 0.18.1
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[14:07:00] k-man_: sdousley, ah ok
[14:08:00] k-man_: show me the error message again
[14:08:00] sdousley: QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket
[14:08:00] sdousley: Failed to bind to port 6543
[14:08:00] k-man_: do you have some bizzare firewall running?
[14:08:00] k-man_: are you executing it as root? (not that that should make a difference)
[14:08:00] sdousley: not that i know of
[14:08:00] sdousley: yes, i a,m
[14:08:00] sdousley: am*
[14:08:00] k-man_: hmmm
[14:09:00] k-man_: oh
[14:09:00] k-man_: what ip address is it running on?
[14:09:00] sdousley: my pc?
[14:09:00] k-man_: did you leave it as 127.0.0.1?
[14:09:00] sdousley: yeh, i did
[14:09:00] k-man_: no, the mythbackend sever
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[14:09:00] k-man_: what does ifconfig say?
[14:09:00] sdousley: in the mythsetup i tried various things there.
[14:10:00] sdousley: inet addr:192.168.2.9 Bcast:192.168.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
[14:10:00] sdousley: i tried 192.168.2.9 there aswell
[14:10:00] k-man_: hmm
[14:10:00] k-man_: ok
[14:10:00] k-man_: yeah
[14:10:00] sdousley: and "localhost"
[14:10:00] k-man_: im at a bit of a loss as to how i can help you dude
[14:11:00] sdousley: can i try mythbackend on a different port somehow?
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[14:18:00] k-man_: i dunno
[14:18:00] k-man_: its very strange
[14:18:00] k-man_: you might try telnet localhost 6543
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[14:18:00] k-man_: to see if anything else is running on that port
[14:19:00] k-man_: or if anything is running on it for that matter
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[14:19:00] k-man_: maybe you should try asking on #gentoo?
[14:19:00] sdousley: d'oh, not got a telnet client installed
[14:19:00] k-man_: they might be of more help
[14:19:00] sdousley: i'l try ssh my server n do it
[14:19:00] k-man_: huh?
[14:19:00] k-man_: you don't have telnet?
[14:19:00] sdousley: aparently not
[14:20:00] sdousley: connection was refused
[14:20:00] k-man_: can't you emerge telnet?
[14:20:00] k-man_: oh
[14:20:00] k-man_: you have the client
[14:20:00] k-man_: i'm asking you to telnet to that port to see if something is there
[14:20:00] sdousley: no, dont have the client
[14:20:00] k-man_: you don't need a server for that
[14:20:00] k-man_: dude
[14:20:00] sdousley: i'm surprised at that
[14:20:00] k-man_: what are you talking about?
[14:20:00] GreyFoxx: sdousley: How do you get a connection refused without the telnet client ?:)
[14:21:00] sdousley: i mean ssh to my server which has telnet installed
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[14:21:00] k-man_: sdousley, your not understanding
[14:22:00] sdousley: ok k-man_
[14:22:00] sdousley: what do u mean?
[14:23:00] k-man_: do this
[14:23:00] k-man_: which telnet
[14:23:00] sdousley: no telnet
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[14:24:00] GreyFoxx: Then where did you get a connection refused message from ?
[14:24:00] k-man_: emerge telnet
[14:24:00] sdousley: i ssh'd to me server which has a telnet client installed then from there did:
[14:24:00] GreyFoxx: ahhh
[14:24:00] sdousley: telnet 192.168.2.9 6543
[14:24:00] GreyFoxx: Ok
[14:25:00] sdousley: that ip being my computer's ip
[14:25:00] k-man_: sdousley, well, get a local telnet and do it localy
[14:25:00] sdousley: emerge telnet doesn't exist! :O
[14:25:00] k-man_: is your other server on the local network?
[14:25:00] GreyFoxx: Then it sounds like your backend is not running or is on a different port, or behind a firewall (even a locally done one)
[14:25:00] sdousley: yeh.
[14:25:00] k-man_: ask on #entoo how to get a telnet client
[14:25:00] sdousley: GreyFoxx: i am trying to run myth JUST off my own pc, not the server at all.
[14:26:00] sdousley: there's no firewall started on my gentoo box
[14:26:00] GreyFoxx: sdousley: You are completly missing the point
[14:27:00] sdousley: ok, got a telnet client installing
[14:27:00] GreyFoxx: k-man_: Was attempting to verify that you could locally (hence the telnet localhost) to the mythbackend port of 6543. Since you had no local telnet command you tried it from another box. So at this point if that OTHER box can't connect it implies that mythbackend is not running
[14:27:00] hfghfh: telnet should not be used any more, use ssh instead
[14:27:00] GreyFoxx: which a ps -ef | grep mythbackend would also show
[14:27:00] GreyFoxx: hfghfh: He's not using telnet to login to a machine,. but to open an unencrypted connection to a port
[14:28:00] sdousley: someone's suggested putty for me that can connect to ssh and telnet hehe
[14:28:00] k-man_: hfghfh, telnet can be used for this purpose which is testing if you can connect to a local port
[14:28:00] hfghfh: ok, then im with you
[14:28:00] k-man_: hfghfh, please don't interfere... its hard enough as it is
[14:29:00] k-man_: sdousley, just install a fragging telnet client
[14:29:00] sdousley: i am
[14:29:00] k-man_: i will not help you until you do
[14:29:00] sdousley: it just has to compile everything hehe
[14:29:00] GreyFoxx: All this started because you couldn'
[14:29:00] GreyFoxx: t connect to the port right ? Or had a bind error ?
[14:29:00] sdousley: ok, i got putty open
[14:30:00] sdousley: it says connection refused trying to open port 6543
[14:30:00] sdousley: bind error
[14:30:00] GreyFoxx: What does? The backend when you try to run it ?
[14:30:00] sdousley: the backend gives me the bind error when i try to run it, and telnet localhost 6543 tells me connection refused
[14:31:00] GreyFoxx: sdousley: Ummmm, you are using putty to connect to "localhost" ? is the machine with putty on it the same as the machine with the backend?!?
[14:31:00] sdousley: yes.
[14:31:00] sdousley: i just found a proper telnet client aswell, and got a connection refused.
[14:31:00] GreyFoxx: I had no idea there was a putty for linux :)
[14:32:00] sdousley: neither did i till about 5 mins ago
[14:32:00] GreyFoxx: So me the error from the backend
[14:32:00] GreyFoxx: show me
[14:32:00] GreyFoxx: or paste it to www.pastebin.ca
[14:32:00] sdousley: ok
[14:32:00] sdousley: 2 secs
[14:32:00] sdousley: http://pastebin.com/343920
[14:33:00] GreyFoxx: Ok, from that same box
[14:33:00] GreyFoxx: try this  : fuser -n tcp 653
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[14:33:00] GreyFoxx: try this  : fuser -n tcp 6543
[14:33:00] sdousley: homer mysqld # fuser -n tcp 6543
[14:33:00] sdousley: homer mysqld #
[14:33:00] GreyFoxx: gotta run that one as root
[14:33:00] sdousley: did anyway hehe
[14:34:00] GreyFoxx: ok, exactly what IP did you put in your mythtv-setup for the backend ?
[14:34:00] sdousley: 127.0.0.1
[14:34:00] GreyFoxx: Verify that :)
[14:34:00] sdousley: ok, 2 secs
[14:34:00] sdousley: well, maybe a few more :P
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[14:35:00] sdousley: in the first page of "General" in mythsetup i have both IP's set to 127.0.0.1 and all 3 port settings as 6543
[14:38:00] GreyFoxx: ok
[14:38:00] GreyFoxx: "netstat -antu | grep 6543"
[14:38:00] GreyFoxx: What does that return ?
[14:38:00] sdousley: nothing
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[14:39:00] GreyFoxx: And you are SURE you are running these commands from the same box that you are starting mythbackend on and not accidentily on another machine ?
[14:39:00] sdousley: nope. it's DEFINITELY this computer.
[14:39:00] GreyFoxx: ps -ef | grep myth
[14:39:00] sdousley: since it's my maiun computer, and i got no ssh sessions open
[14:39:00] sdousley: homer mysqld # ps -ef | grep myth
[14:39:00] sdousley: root 13111 9087 0 13:39 pts/0 00:00:00 grep myth
[14:40:00] GreyFoxx: try running mythbackend -v all
[14:40:00] GreyFoxx: see if it's more verbose
[14:40:00] sdousley: that output more
[14:40:00] GreyFoxx: www.pastebin.ca :)
[14:41:00] sdousley: just doing
[14:41:00] k-man_: whats the relationship between mythplugins dir and mythtv dir for building mythplugins?
[14:41:00] sdousley: http://pastebin.com/343923
[14:41:00] GreyFoxx: k-man_: none really. You don't need to have the mythtv directory to compile the stuff in mythplugins as long as the mythtv stuff is already installed
[14:42:00] k-man_: oh
[14:42:00] k-man_: oh...
[14:43:00] k-man_: im trying to compile mythgame to install in my .deb install of mythtv
[14:43:00] k-man_: maybe i need some mythlibs or something
[14:43:00] GreyFoxx: If you installed mythtv first then it should have what it needs library wise
[14:44:00] k-man_: GreyFoxx, i think its missing the -dev libraries
[14:44:00] GreyFoxx: sdousley: echo "select * from settings where value = 'BackendServerIP'; " | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg
[14:44:00] sdousley: value data hostname
[14:44:00] sdousley: BackendServerIP 127.0.0.1 homer
[14:44:00] GreyFoxx: k-man_: There aren't really any dev libraries. the libraries are thge libraries
[14:45:00] k-man_: oh
[14:45:00] k-man_: GreyFoxx,
[14:45:00] k-man_: ok
[14:45:00] k-man_: make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/qt3/lib/libqt.prl', needed by `Makefile'. Stop.
[14:45:00] GreyFoxx: sdousley: Well, at this point I would try rebooting, it sounds like something has 6543 tied up and nothing is showing you
[14:45:00] sdousley: GreyFoxx: tried that one already
[14:45:00] GreyFoxx: Then you have somethign truly fscked on your system :)
[14:46:00] sdousley: hehe
[14:46:00] GreyFoxx: 6543 is not a reserved port so any user should be able to bind to it, normally a fialed to bind error means something else already has it
[14:47:00] GreyFoxx: k-man_: I've never seen that before :) I assume you have done the full ./configure in the mythplugins directory to ensure all of the proper files are setup ?:)
[14:47:00] k-man_: yeah
[14:47:00] k-man_: i do have it there
[14:48:00] k-man_: oh
[14:48:00] k-man_: i dunno
[14:48:00] k-man_: strange errors i'm getting
[14:48:00] k-man_: gamesettings.h:4:29: mythtv/settings.h: No such file or directory
[14:49:00] GreyFoxx: do a find /usr -name settings.h
[14:49:00] k-man_: GreyFoxx, should'nt it get it from the mythtv source dir?
[14:50:00] sdousley: GreyFoxx: u know much about nmap?
[14:50:00] GreyFoxx: If you properly installed mythtv a copy of the include files is placed along the system include path
[14:50:00] k-man_: GreyFoxx, hmm.. i used the .debs to install mythtv
[14:50:00] k-man_: mybe they were no good
[14:51:00] GreyFoxx: k-man_: I hate packages, I have no idea what your package did or didn't install
[14:51:00] k-man_: yeah
[14:51:00] k-man_: i'm realising that now
[14:51:00] k-man_: *sigh*
[14:51:00] GreyFoxx: k-man_: The find I just mentioned would find it if it's under /usr
[14:51:00] GreyFoxx: sdousley: Enough I guess
[14:51:00] k-man_: yeah
[14:51:00] k-man_: i know
[14:51:00] sdousley: just thinkin can i scan my comp for 6543 using that
[14:51:00] sdousley: or will that not really produce much differnt from netstat?
[14:52:00] k-man_: GreyFoxx, where is yours?
[14:52:00] GreyFoxx: sdousley: If netstat doesn't find it, then it's either not there, or somethign is seriously wrong
[14:52:00] GreyFoxx: k-man_: Hold on
[14:52:00] sdousley: ok
[14:52:00] GreyFoxx: /usr/local/include/mythtv/settings.h
[14:52:00] k-man_: sdousley, can you ping localhost?
[14:53:00] sdousley: k-man_: yup
[14:54:00] k-man_: hmmm
[14:54:00] GreyFoxx: k-man_: Though most packages tend to prefix stuff with /usr instead of /usr/local
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[14:55:00] k-man_: GreyFoxx, hmm... well i just stuck my libs in that dir and its compiling now
[14:55:00] GreyFoxx: brb
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[14:55:00] k-man_: i think the packager must have forgotten to package them or something
[14:55:00] k-man_: who knows
[14:55:00] k-man_: anyway
[14:55:00] k-man_: gtg
[14:55:00] k-man_: seeya GreyFoxx
[14:55:00] k-man_: goodluck sdousley
[14:55:00] sdousley: ty k-man_
[14:56:00] k-man_: sdousley, i think you should install debian
[14:56:00] sdousley: hehe
[14:56:00] ** sdousley likes his gentoo now **
[14:56:00] k-man_: no offence, but gentoo is not for the less knowledgeble among us
[14:56:00] k-man_: sdousley, yeah, maybe ask for assistance on #gentoo
[14:56:00] k-man_: they might be able to help you a bit better
[14:57:00] sdousley: hehe ok, cheers for the suggestions though
[15:00:00] Agrajag-: gentoo is not for the knowledgable among us either ;)
[15:00:00] GreyFoxx: There is also a #gentoo-mythtv channel
[15:01:00] GreyFoxx: Agrajag-: Hah
[15:01:00] sdousley: aah, ty for that GrantM
[15:01:00] sdousley: GreyFoxx: *
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[17:25:00] crash-x: i always get this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GGzeaa77.html does someone know how to fix it?
[17:27:00] Tommck: this is a guess, but do you have whatever other libraries it depends on for XvMC support?
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[17:28:00] crash-x: on what libraries does it depend?
[17:28:00] Tommck: not sure :)
[17:28:00] crash-x: heh
[17:29:00] Tommck: it says -lXvMC... do you have a libXvMC.so somewhere?
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[17:29:00] crash-x: jup
[17:29:00] Tommck: or libXvMCNVIDIA  ? (it references that too)
[17:30:00] crash-x: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMC.so
[17:30:00] ** Tommck needs a beer **
[17:30:00] crash-x: i have both
[17:30:00] ** crash-x too **
[17:30:00] Tommck: hmm
[17:30:00] ** Beirdo pours a beer onto Tommck  :) **
[17:30:00] Tommck: it's only 11:30 here though :)
[17:30:00] Beirdo: so?
[17:30:00] ** Tommck parades around like a girl in a wet t-shirt contest **
[17:31:00] Beirdo: ewww
[17:31:00] Tommck: lol
[17:32:00] Tommck: sorry I don't know any more crash-x
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[17:33:00] crash-x: :/
[17:33:00] crash-x: ill try to use newer svn
[17:33:00] Tommck: you're doing a normal "./configure && make" ?
[17:33:00] Tommck: crash-x – what distro is this?
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[17:34:00] Tommck: I have had issues with "/usr/X11R6/lib" not being in some makefiles before when it's needed in SuSE 91
[17:34:00] crash-x: debian sarge
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[17:35:00] Tommck: but its' in that line
[17:35:00] gundam: anyone compiled ivtv driver on new kernel?
[17:35:00] Tommck: oh well..
[17:35:00] Tommck: I'm out of options
[17:35:00] Tommck: I'm sure someone has
[17:36:00] Tommck: gundam – you taking a poll for a newspaper or something? :)
[17:37:00] gundam: Tommck – heheh no .. I'm having problem compiling the driver saa7127.c
[17:37:00] Tommck: :)
[17:37:00] gundam: something bout: structure has no member named `id'
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[17:38:00] gundam: apparently i2c_client structure has been changed
[17:39:00] Tommck: ah
[17:39:00] travolta: i've compiled ivtv for 2.6 kernel
[17:39:00] travolta: but im currently running 2.4 one
[17:40:00] Tommck: and you've danced your way into the hearts of teen girls everywhere, haven't you Travolta?
[17:40:00] gundam: YOU CAN DO THAT WITH LINUX KERNEL ....... ;)
[17:40:00] travolta: maybe
[17:40:00] gundam: Darn .. what am I doing wrong ?!?!?
[17:40:00] travolta: i remember it was pretty straight froward
[17:41:00] gundam: ya ... apparently with newer 2.6.12.3 the i2c structure has changed ... dont know what 2 ...
[17:41:00] gundam: maybe I need 2 dig through kernel code
[17:43:00] ** Tommck just noticed that the MythLogBot is listed under "Voice" ?? **
[17:43:00] Beirdo: aye
[17:44:00] Beirdo: it registers as a nick linked to me
[17:44:00] Tommck: it's logging voice chat too? :)
[17:44:00] Beirdo: so it got auto-voiced, that wasn't intentional, but whatever
[17:44:00] Tommck: hehe
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[17:47:00] KaiForce: am I nuts or did I see somewhere software to let MythTV stream recordings over, say, a broadband link?
[17:48:00] Beirdo: goooogle
[17:48:00] Beirdo: :)
[17:48:00] Tommck: Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooogle
[17:48:00] Tommck: (sounds like an old-fashioned car horn)
[17:48:00] KaiForce: i keep finding mythstream, which isn't it
[17:48:00] Beirdo: that's the one I'm thinking og
[17:48:00] Beirdo: of rather
[17:48:00] Beirdo: meh
[17:48:00] Beirdo: I don't want to waste bandwidth like that
[17:48:00] Beirdo: I watch TV at home
[17:48:00] GreyFoxx: KaiForce: mythstreamTV you measn? I think mythstream was a addon for streaming audio
[17:48:00] Beirdo: thanks
[17:49:00] KaiForce: right greyfoxx, thanks
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[17:49:00] travolta: KaiForce, mythweb works kinda for video over broadband
[17:49:00] travolta: got to encode it to a small bitrate in mpeg4 first tho
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[17:50:00] KaiForce: i'll try that also
[17:50:00] KaiForce: thanks
[17:50:00] awb4422: morning all
[17:51:00] ** Tommck contemplates a bottle of Stella Artois **
[17:51:00] Tommck: hi awb4422
[17:51:00] Krazylegz: Do it! STELLA!!!
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[17:51:00] Krazylegz: Not my favorite, but to each his own.
[17:52:00] Beirdo: beer is so overrated
[17:52:00] Beirdo: :)
[17:52:00] Krazylegz: Hello Mr. Rum.
[17:52:00] Tommck: Beirdo – your name sounds like beer... it's just not right
[17:52:00] Beirdo: :)
[17:52:00] Beirdo: Oh, I'll drink beer
[17:52:00] Tommck: somehow I don't think having rum before noon is a good idea while I'm working :)
[17:52:00] Beirdo: but not American beer, that's for sure
[17:53:00] Krazylegz: I'll have some rum, if the price is right.
[17:53:00] lane: Beirdo: I dunno, Budweiser isn't bad – as ciders go :)
[17:53:00] Krazylegz: It's 11:53am here.
[17:53:00] Beirdo: buttwiser sucks
[17:53:00] Krazylegz: Canadians get the good stuff.
[17:53:00] Krazylegz: We finally started getting Molson XXX here.
[17:54:00] Beirdo: Europeans have the good stuff
[17:54:00] lane: Stout is the way to go.
[17:54:00] Beirdo: yeah, because Coors bought Molsons
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[17:54:00] KaiForce: Beirdo: i agree about bandwidth, my ISP, which is the same at home and the office, limits bandwidth between its own clients, so I get better speeds to remote sites then through my office/home VPN
[17:54:00] Krazylegz: We actually have a good local brewery here, Victory Brewing.
[17:54:00] Tommck: Krazylegz – is that porn from Molson?
[17:54:00] Beirdo: and now the Molson family is stinking rich
[17:55:00] Tommck: Krazylegz – fantasic beer
[17:55:00] Tommck: Bill is a great brewer
[17:55:00] Krazylegz: Tommck: Almost. I'll bet that a lot of geeks drink it.
[17:55:00] Krazylegz: Have you had any of their new stuff?
[17:55:00] Tommck: Krazylegz – where are you?
[17:55:00] Krazylegz: It's literally 10 minutes from my place.
[17:55:00] Beirdo: I want some 50
[17:55:00] Krazylegz: Eastern PA.
[17:55:00] Tommck: Krazylegz – I drink everything they make
[17:55:00] Tommck: Krazylegz – I used to work with Sunny, Bill's wife
[17:56:00] Tommck: Bill would be the guy who started the company
[17:56:00] Beirdo: work with, or work on?
[17:56:00] Krazylegz: Ah.
[17:56:00] Beirdo: hehe
[17:56:00] Tommck: I wish on... she's cute :)
[17:56:00] Tommck: and a geek :)
[17:56:00] Krazylegz: Haha.
[17:56:00] Beirdo: lucky Bill then
[17:56:00] Tommck: he brews great beer..
[17:56:00] Tommck: used to work at the Baltimore Brewing Company...
[17:56:00] Tommck: it's never been the same since he left
[17:56:00] Tommck: (just closed down recently, as a matter of fact)
[17:57:00] Krazylegz: We go to DuClaw in Bel-Air sometimes.
[17:57:00] Tommck: I have Prima Pils, Hop Devil and a couple of others on my regular rotation :)
[17:57:00] Tommck: hehe.. DuClaw was started by a friend of mine
[17:57:00] Tommck: we were in the same year in college
[17:57:00] Krazylegz: Oh, neat.
[17:57:00] Tommck: there are 4 of them now :)
[17:57:00] Krazylegz: Ah, I only knew of 3.
[17:57:00] Tommck: his dad ponied up the startup cash along with some investors
[17:57:00] Krazylegz: Bel-Air is the closest to me.
[17:58:00] Tommck: yeah.
[17:58:00] Tommck: I'm near Hunt Valley / Cockeysville
[17:58:00] Krazylegz: Oh, I was just down there helping a friend move out. She was right off of Padonia Rd.
[17:58:00] Beirdo: I'm near the CN Tower
[17:59:00] Krazylegz: Yeah, you can eat dinner and get dizzy at the same time.
[17:59:00] Tommck: Krazylegz – VERY close to me.. Did you go to Padonia Station after? :)
[17:59:00] Krazylegz: Haha, no, but I have been there.
[17:59:00] Tommck: you get in this area often?
[17:59:00] Krazylegz: It was an off-night.
[17:59:00] Krazylegz: Not anymore. I was there 3 or 4 times because my friend was on co-op there.
[17:59:00] Tommck: ah
[17:59:00] Krazylegz: Sometimes I head down to Bel-Air with friends to go to DuClaw.
[18:00:00] Tommck: I was thinking about calling / emailing Bill Covaleski and telling him to re-open the Baltimore Brewing Company as a Victory brewpub
[18:00:00] Krazylegz: Haha.
[18:00:00] Krazylegz: Just convince his wife. ;-)
[18:00:00] Tommck: it is a great location.. he'd do very well..
[18:00:00] Tommck: true
[18:01:00] Krazylegz: How far are you to the Inner Harbor?
[18:01:00] Tommck: I'd like to convince his wife to do a lot of things...
[18:01:00] Krazylegz: I might get some friends to go down there with me sometime.
[18:01:00] Tommck: about 30 minutes
[18:01:00] Krazylegz: It's about 1–1/2 hours from me, I think.
[18:01:00] Tommck: we're so off-topic, we should take this offline... I'll pm you
[18:02:00] Beirdo: yeah, get a room :)
[18:02:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:02:00] Krazylegz: Beirdo started it!
[18:03:00] Beirdo: suuuure
[18:03:00] Beirdo: :)
[18:04:00] Tommck: :)
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[18:18:00] xris: so Beirdo, I don't think nuvexport works at all with HD content
[18:18:00] GeckoFiend: not myth related at all but... What do folks think of 64k ISDN over dialup?
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[18:19:00] xris: GeckoFiend: you out in the boonies?
[18:19:00] GeckoFiend: xris yeah
[18:19:00] xris: how fast is your dialup?
[18:20:00] GeckoFiend: and my wife is considering adding a THIRD phone line just for her modem. (we have a dedicated line for mine)
[18:20:00] Tommck: GeckoFiend – you could always try DirecWay ;)
[18:20:00] Krazylegz: Satellite?
[18:20:00] GeckoFiend: right now I'm at 45.2k...
[18:21:00] ** Tommck has a love/hate relationship with DirecWay **
[18:21:00] xris: well, could be a matter of whether 2xdialup (load balanced) is faster/cheaper than isdn
[18:21:00] xris: or if sat internet would be enough (since you already deal with slow ping times, etc)
[18:21:00] GeckoFiend: Tommck that's not an option, due to the nasty ping rates
[18:21:00] Tommck: xris – why doesn't nuvexport work with HD?
[18:21:00] GeckoFiend: xris heh 400ms vs 2000ms or so
[18:21:00] Tommck: GeckoFiend – you a gamer?
[18:21:00] xris: Tommck: beats me. I just tried it last night for the first time and get all kinds of errors
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[18:22:00] xris: I *did* fix the aspect ratio stuff, though...
[18:22:00] Tommck: xris – I'll try it here sometime
[18:22:00] GeckoFiend: Tommck somewhat. My wife gmaes more than I do (World of Warcraft)
[18:22:00] Tommck: REALLY?
[18:22:00] xris: but it likely has something to do with the TS format.
[18:22:00] xris: Tommck: s/did/should have\/tried to/
[18:22:00] Tommck: xris – it can crop off the top and bottom for me?
[18:22:00] xris: Tommck: no, not that kind.
[18:22:00] xris: the other kind.
[18:23:00] Tommck: oh.. left and righ?
[18:23:00] Tommck: t
[18:23:00] xris: like if you have a 16:9 file, it'll encode a 16:9 output (adding letterboxing on svcd, etc)
[18:23:00] Tommck: oh... ADDING ?
[18:23:00] Tommck: dammit
[18:23:00] xris: Tommck: svcd doesn't support anamorphic.
[18:23:00] Tommck: I don't care about svcd :)
[18:23:00] xris: I know.
[18:23:00] xris: just saying...
[18:23:00] Tommck: hehe
[18:23:00] Tommck: I know
[18:24:00] xris: cropping is actually pretty easy.
[18:24:00] Tommck: damn.. you really got my hopes up there for a minute
[18:24:00] Tommck: yeah... I'm just retarded
[18:24:00] xris: just a matter of figuring out the percentage of the screen that you need to crop off
[18:24:00] Tommck: I know exactly what %
[18:24:00] Tommck: I need exactly 60 pixels cropped off the top and bottom
[18:24:00] xris: Tommck: then look for the "crop 2%" code
[18:24:00] Tommck: and then I need dvdauthor to burn a widescreen DVD for me
[18:24:00] xris: Tommck: %, not pixels... people encode at different resolutions.
[18:25:00] Tommck: right now I'm working with the nuvexport --debug output...
[18:25:00] Tommck: was planning on backing it in from there
[18:25:00] xris: ffmpeg or transcode?
[18:25:00] xris: transcode is -j
[18:25:00] Tommck: ffmpeg
[18:25:00] Tommck: -croptop 60 -cropbottom 60
[18:26:00] Tommck: what I can't figure out is why it's calling ffmpeg twice and things like that... makes it a little confusing for me
[18:26:00] Tommck: I need to better understand nuvexport I guess
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[18:30:00] lane: xris: I'm trying to install nuvexport on fc4, but having problems since I can't get lve installed. Is it safe to force the nuvexport rpm to install without lve?
[18:30:00] Tommck: rpm?
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[18:31:00] Tommck: I didn't know there was an rpm :)
[18:31:00] lane: yeah, from xris's web site
[18:31:00] Tommck: ah
[18:32:00] Tommck: xris – where are you from?
[18:32:00] Tommck: seattle?
[18:32:00] Krazylegz: Yeah, he's a Seattleite.
[18:32:00] Tommck: ahh.. I assumed that all seattle geeks liked Speakeasy DSL :)
[18:32:00] Beirdo: xris: worked fine for my test recordings
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[18:35:00] Beirdo: lane: lve is only used for MPEG2->MPEG2 cutting (without reencoding)
[18:35:00] Beirdo: if you aren't doing that, you don't need it
[18:35:00] lane: Beirdo: thanks. that's what I thought.
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[18:36:00] lane: btw, how's the work coming on extracting the mpeg-cutting code from lve and avidemux? I thought xris mentioned you were working on something along those lines
[18:36:00] Beirdo: no prob
[18:36:00] Beirdo: heh
[18:36:00] Beirdo: free time ~= 0
[18:36:00] lane: yeah
[18:37:00] lane: I understand. I was just curious
[18:37:00] Beirdo: yeah, no progress... too busy progressing more interesting areas of my life :)
[18:38:00] lane: I've actually started using the regular dvd exporting option of nuvexport, since I don't have the sync issues that way that I sometimes did with mpeg cutting
[18:38:00] Beirdo: woman > coding :)
[18:39:00] GreyFoxx: I believe that would very dependant on your mood :)
[18:40:00] kormoc: Beirdo, unless job == coding, no? :P
[18:40:00] Beirdo: job == admin
[18:40:00] Beirdo: unix admin
[18:40:00] Beirdo: so some coding, but not much
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[18:47:00] Beirdo: nothing like a peaceful channel
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[18:48:00] ** Beirdo wonders if he should unban rah now **
[18:48:00] Tommck: hehe
[18:48:00] Beirdo: it's just so peaceful
[18:49:00] Tommck: every time i see someone use pastebin, i think of him
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[18:58:00] Krazylegz: You could always re-ban him.
[18:59:00] Beirdo: true
[18:59:00] Beirdo: and I ain't gonna tell him
[18:59:00] Krazylegz: Maybe have him work up to being unbanned for the entire day. 5 minutes today, 10 tomorrow, etc.
[18:59:00] ChanServ sets mode +o Beirdo
[18:59:00] Beirdo sets mode -b rah!*@*
[18:59:00] GreyFoxx: wow, that ban actually held him out ?
[18:59:00] GreyFoxx: *shakes head*
[19:00:00] Beirdo sets mode -o Beirdo
[19:00:00] Beirdo: yeah
[19:00:00] Krazylegz: I know I'm different than him, but if I get banned, I stay out.
[19:00:00] ** Tommck has never been banned **
[19:00:00] Krazylegz: Then again, I'm not that dense.
[19:00:00] Beirdo: trust me, you don't wanna be playing "avoid the ban"
[19:00:00] Beirdo: once I banned an entire ISP to get rid of one asswipe
[19:00:00] Tommck: is that like "avoid the noid" ?
[19:01:00] Krazylegz: Maybe I've only been kicked. I can't remember. Anyway, it was a chat channel, and someone just felt like kicking people.
[19:01:00] Krazylegz: Haha.
[19:01:00] Beirdo: he kept on going around it, so many others suffered for our peace and quiet
[19:01:00] Krazylegz: Beirdo is the new Pol Pot.
[19:01:00] GreyFoxx: I've been banned/kicked god knows how many times over the years for various reasons :)
[19:01:00] Beirdo: GreyFoxx: me too, and usually for stupid non-reasons
[19:02:00] Krazylegz: Ah ha! More proof that people cannot govern themselves.
[19:02:00] Beirdo: of course we could always make it a registered-users-only channel like #asterisk
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[19:02:00] Krazylegz: That seems mean.
[19:02:00] GreyFoxx: Coming up on my 14th IRC anniversary in a couple weeks. hehe funny how that makes me feel older than when it's my birthday :)
[19:02:00] Beirdo: way easier to ban people by nick when they have to be registered :)
[19:02:00] laga: i got kicked out of a linux channel because i was root – my only question was how to use the net connection without being root. stupid people.
[19:02:00] Krazylegz: I don't even know how to register my nick. I'm an IRC n00b.
[19:02:00] Tommck: :)
[19:03:00] Beirdo: use /msg Nickserv help
[19:03:00] Beirdo: hehe
[19:03:00] Tommck: I used to chat on IRC before it was called IRC
[19:03:00] Tommck: was just called "Relay"
[19:03:00] Beirdo: the freenode website tells you how to register pretty well last I looked
[19:04:00] Beirdo: but hopefully we don't ever need to enforce registered-olnly
[19:04:00] Beirdo: it's a PITA
[19:04:00] Beirdo: well, I need to get back to work
[19:04:00] Beirdo: lunchtime's over
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[19:05:00] Krazylegz: I think I'm registered now.
[19:08:00] xris: Krazylegz: looks like you are
[19:08:00] xris: -> /msg nickserv info Krazylegz
[19:10:00] Krazylegz: Nice. Thanks.
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[19:13:00] swim: anyone ever hear of mythdora?
[19:14:00] Tommck: anyone who reads the mythv-users email list has
[19:14:00] ** kormoc yawns and stretches. **
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[19:23:00] ** Beirdo yawns too **
[19:23:00] Beirdo: need a caffeine IV
[19:24:00] stoffel: need sleep
[19:24:00] Beirdo: that too
[19:24:00] GreyFoxx: swim: It's a preconfigured mythtv based distro or something like that right ?
[19:25:00] GreyFoxx: I've seen the name, on the lists but pretty much skipped the threads on it
[19:25:00] ** Beirdo nods off **
[19:25:00] Beirdo: and I got 7h sleep last night, this is just wrong
[19:26:00] swim: GreyFoxx, right, im looking for something better than knoppmyth but like it... ive got freebsd that takes enough of my time... where i dont need to add anymore
[19:26:00] Beirdo: hah
[19:26:00] stoffel: he
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[19:26:00] swim: knoppmyth can be very strict
[19:26:00] GreyFoxx: I'
[19:26:00] GreyFoxx: ve never used that either :)
[19:26:00] Beirdo: hahah
[19:26:00] swim: it requires install on hda for instance
[19:26:00] Beirdo: GreyFoxx: I do that all the time
[19:27:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[19:27:00] swim: its manual install is basically broken...
[19:27:00] Krazylegz: swim: Why not do a regular Linux install and put Myth on it?
[19:27:00] GreyFoxx: I take it you are looking for something that boots from something other than an HD then :)
[19:27:00] Beirdo: because he wants "easy"
[19:27:00] swim: because that will take more of my time
[19:27:00] Beirdo: hehe
[19:27:00] swim: no from HD
[19:28:00] GreyFoxx: And how much time are you spending trying to find an alternative to avoid spending time ?:)
[19:28:00] Beirdo: if you are worried about things taking too much time, are you sure you want to be using myth?
[19:28:00] Beirdo: setting it up isn't for the hurried
[19:28:00] GreyFoxx: swim: Is this for a frontend/backend or just a frontend ?
[19:28:00] swim: front/back GreyFoxx
[19:29:00] swim: im just looking... if i must install some other distro like debian and build on that then i will...
[19:29:00] GreyFoxx: ahh, I'm going to be releasing a USB bootable mythbased distro hopefully this weekend which will be presetup as afrontend
[19:29:00] GreyFoxx: but making it into a backend would be pretty simple
[19:29:00] GreyFoxx: either writting to a local hd or to a nfs mount
[19:29:00] swim: mm sounds ok...
[19:30:00] GreyFoxx: I really just need to finish the docs for it so that I wont be peppered with user questions
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[19:30:00] swim: i mean i dig knoppmyth, but for my use (unfortunatley i must have windows on the same machine while im working on an access db)
[19:30:00] GreyFoxx: I might make a CD bootable version, but that's not a priority yet
[19:30:00] swim: gotchyah
[19:31:00] swim: well ill give mythdora a shot before going back to debian
[19:31:00] kormoc: swim, having a backend that needs to be rebooted often doesn't work the best with myth
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[19:31:00] swim: kormoc, why not?
[19:32:00] kormoc: swim, while you're in windows, no recording, when you reboot in the middle of a show, you only get half a show, etc.
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[19:58:00] laga: hey GreyFoxx, are you still here? ;)
[19:59:00] GreyFoxx: barely
[19:59:00] laga: GreyFoxx: ok. do you have your mythtv-distro online, so i could try it?
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[20:00:00] GreyFoxx: I'm putting it up this weekend. Gives me time to polish off the wiki info and rebuild the packages with lirc support
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[20:00:00] GreyFoxx: I figure I'll do up two versions, one of 0.18.1
[20:01:00] GreyFoxx: and one with the modules from svn as of Friday
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[20:01:00] GreyFoxx: The user can pick which they want
[20:01:00] laga: GreyFoxx: ok, i'll have to go my own route for my second frontend then ;)
[20:01:00] GreyFoxx: do what you gotta do :)
[20:02:00] laga: heh. i have too much time on my hands, unfortunately :)
[20:02:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[20:02:00] GreyFoxx: I don't have enough at the moment :)
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[21:32:00] sdousley: anyone here was helping me earlier?
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[21:37:00] djperegrine: I just got the tv to work with mplayer but now when I try to watch tv it says couldn't read file rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/cache/ringbuf1.nuv
[21:40:00] Krazylegz: Did you check permissions on that file?
[21:42:00] stoffel: djperegrine: check the backend logs
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[21:45:00] djperegrine: wierd
[21:45:00] djperegrine: now when I do mplayer /dev/video0 it says "playing /dev/video0" but does nothing else
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[21:50:00] djperegrine: crap
[21:50:00] djperegrine: I accedentely deleted that file
[21:53:00] djperegrine: ok nm
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[21:57:00] djperegrine: the logs don't say anything
[21:57:00] djperegrine: permissions are fine
[21:57:00] Tommck: I have a nice off-topic question for people... is there an online auction place that's good to sell stuff that's NOT Ebay? :)
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[21:57:00] skone: is there any built in support to export a nuv file to anything but a dvd in knoppmyth r16?
[21:58:00] Tommck: skone – use nuvexport
[21:58:00] skone: Tommck: is that command line or can you access it from the frontend?
[21:59:00] Krazylegz: Tommck: Depends on what you're selling.
[21:59:00] Tommck: skone – you need to download it
[21:59:00] skone: o ok
[21:59:00] Tommck: Krazylegz – 2 7-foot Rack tower enclosures
[21:59:00] Krazylegz: Heh. Slashdot Classifieds. :-)
[21:59:00] Tommck: that's the big one..
[21:59:00] Tommck: they have classifieds?
[21:59:00] sdousley: tomimo: qxl?
[21:59:00] Krazylegz: No, but they should.
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[22:00:00] Tommck: qxl?
[22:00:00] sdousley: Tommck: qxl
[22:00:00] Tommck: what is that?
[22:00:00] sdousley: online auction site
[22:00:00] Krazylegz: sdousley: ASL? :-)
[22:00:00] Tommck: oh.. never heard of it
[22:00:00] sdousley: Krazylegz: 21/m/uk
[22:00:00] Tommck: hehe
[22:00:00] Krazylegz: Haha.
[22:01:00] Tommck: oh... I need one in the US :)
[22:01:00] Tommck: qxl is UK...
[22:01:00] Tommck: not going to help me sell something in Baltimore, MD, USA :)
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[22:01:00] sdousley: Tommck: hehe ok, soz, i dunno then
[22:02:00] jonK: try craigslist
[22:03:00] Tommck: jonK – I might... do they auction stuff too?
[22:03:00] Tommck: or maybe I can have them beamed into space? :)
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[22:03:00] jonK: sure, along with hunter thompson
[22:03:00] Tommck: jonK – you know they're beaming ads into space, right?
[22:04:00] jonK: yes, as all television signals ahve been beaming into space for years, i assume that includes the adds
[22:05:00] jonK: but ebay owns %25 percent stake in craigslist, if you're ebay hostile
[22:05:00] djperegrine: Ohh
[22:05:00] Tommck: jonK – actually, they're explicitly renting time on some transmitter to beam the ads into space
[22:05:00] djperegrine: the backend log says "couldn't read data from card "
[22:05:00] Tommck: I'm not ebay hostile, I am just not giving them a credit card and a checking account # just to sell something
[22:05:00] skone: Tommck: I found it, and its working, but is there a way to do it from the frontend without using the command line?
[22:06:00] Tommck: skone – nope... but you could always try hacking the code ;)
[22:06:00] djperegrine: well i dont think i did anything special, but when i got home today and saw your reply i did a "ps aux | grep myth" and it only showed the grep process. so i ran mythtv-setup and scanned for channels, and it worked nicely. but i still can't watch tv.
[22:06:00] djperegrine: so i ran mythbackend in one terminal window, than mythfrontend in another termianl window, and the following is what i got:
[22:06:00] djperegrine: Code: farrell ~ # mythbackend
[22:06:00] djperegrine: 2005-08–14 00:40:50.809 New DB connection, total: 1
[22:06:00] djperegrine: Starting up as the master server.
[22:06:00] skone: I thought I had rememebered seeing it, but I went through every menu
[22:06:00] djperegrine: 2005-08–14 00:40:50.849 New DB connection, total: 2
[22:06:00] djperegrine: 2005-08–14 00:40:51.093 DVB#0 DVB SI Table Parser Started
[22:06:00] djperegrine: 2005-08–14 00:40:51.094 DVB#0 Using DVB card 0, with frontend pcHDTV HD3000 HDTV.
[22:06:00] djperegrine: 2005-08–14 00:40:51.095 New DB connection, total: 3
[22:06:00] djperegrine: 2005-08–14 00:40:51.103 DVB#0 ERROR – Could not find dvb tuning parameters for transport 0
[22:06:00] djperegrine: crap
[22:06:00] Tommck: STOP NOW
[22:07:00] djperegrine: Soryyyy
[22:07:00] djperegrine: I didn't mean to do that :(
[22:07:00] lane: anybody know how to make apt-get ignore a bad dependency permanently? I installed nuvexport earlier today on fc4 with --nodeps so it wouldn't complain about lve not being available. Now I can't install anything, since apt complains that there's a missing dependency, and it wants to uninstall nuvexport as the fix
[22:07:00] djperegrine: thats not even mine :( I didn't mean to do that
[22:07:00] Beirdo: jeez
[22:07:00] skone: im lookign at 5.4 fps converting it to an .asf file
[22:07:00] Tommck: skone – what cpu?
[22:07:00] zuralin: lane, make a fake package of the missing dependancy using equivs
[22:07:00] skone: not sure, one of the early P4's
[22:07:00] skone: maybe 1.6 or 1.8
[22:08:00] Tommck: that doesn't sound too outrageous to me..
[22:08:00] skone: yeah I thought it was slow
[22:08:00] skone: but its a frontend/backend together
[22:08:00] Tommck: depending on settings I get as little as 15 fps with a P4 2.4
[22:08:00] sdousley: what nees running first? mythfilldatabase, or mythbackend?
[22:08:00] sdousley: on a first run
[22:08:00] skone: Tommck: on asf files?
[22:08:00] skone: I took all default settings
[22:08:00] Tommck: skone – no... "dvd" output of nuvexport
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[22:09:00] skone: ahh, I wonder if there is a big difference in that and asf
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[22:09:00] lane: zuralin: I'm on fedora. can equivs handle rpms?
[22:09:00] skone: I saw that nuv2avi which was suppose to be fast, but I didnt feel liking setting it up
[22:10:00] zuralin: lane, sorry i don't know.. thats what i use on debian however
[22:10:00] lane: ok – thanks
[22:10:00] lane: I guess in the meantime I'll just uninstall nuvexport
[22:11:00] zuralin: lane, look into how to make "fake" packages for fedora
[22:11:00] zuralin: i am sure it is documented somewhere
[22:11:00] lane: right
[22:11:00] Tommck: zuralin – to make a fake package... stuff a sock down your pants
[22:11:00] zuralin: Tommck, i'll keep that in mind next time i need to make a fake package
[22:12:00] Beirdo: cucumber
[22:12:00] Tommck: Beirdo – works.. but you have to anchor it somehow... too heavy :)
[22:12:00] Beirdo: just don't wrap it in tinfoil if you're going through the airport
[22:12:00] Tommck: lol
[22:13:00] Beirdo: Spinal Tap.. hilarious movie
[22:13:00] Tommck: it is awesome
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[22:16:00] kjp: Anyone home?
[22:17:00] ** Tommck hates all these "ping" messages **
[22:17:00] kormoc: no
[22:17:00] kjp: awesome.
[22:17:00] kjp: well I'm going to ask the noones that are here
[22:17:00] kormoc: tomimo, Ping!
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[22:18:00] kormoc: tomimo, besides, it's not like there's a list of all the users in the channel or anything that would give a good indication that there's people in the channel :P
[22:18:00] kjp: if they could help me figure out why my mythtv box, (0.18.1) from Knoppmyth doesn't actually let me record anything? I can setup something t record, and it shows up under recording schedules, but *not* under scheduled recordings and nothing is never recorded
[22:19:00] kormoc: nothing is never recorded? that's a good thing I would think, I would hate to have nothing recorded a lot, in my personal opinion that is.
[22:19:00] kjp: kormoc: Hey thanks for the love! it's not like everyone in a channel actually you know... pays attention. besides Anyone home might be slightly more less grating than another question
[22:20:00] kjp: kormoc: yes, that is a good thing. Sadly I *meant* to say nothing is *ever* recorded
[22:20:00] kormoc: kjp, tis just about say 300 people a day come in and just say similar to what you said, it annoys people a lot
[22:21:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[22:21:00] kormoc: kjp, anyway, have you checked any logs?
[22:21:00] ** kjp apologizes I meant no offence **
[22:21:00] kjp: kormoc: O
[22:21:00] Beirdo: kormoc: you need a beer :)
[22:21:00] kjp: I've checked the logs under /var/log/mythtv/
[22:21:00] kormoc: Beirdo, hehe
[22:21:00] kjp: there are no log entries for the past few hours. nothing since 2200 last night
[22:22:00] kormoc: kjp, is mythbackend even running?
[22:22:00] kjp: kormoc: Yep
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[22:24:00] kormoc: odd
[22:25:00] kjp: kormoc: I'm not quite sure if the last 2 lines of the log are normal, or pertanent
[22:26:00] kormoc: feel free to pastebin it up
[22:26:00] kjp: kormoc: but the log shows "QServerSocket: Failed to bind or listen to the socket"
[22:26:00] kjp: and "Failed to bind port: 6543"
[22:27:00] kormoc: that is a issue, is there by chance two mythbackends running?
[22:27:00] kjp: ps aux | grep mythbackend
[22:27:00] kjp: shows one line
[22:27:00] kormoc: hrm
[22:28:00] kjp: would it help to shut mythbackend down and restart it ?
[22:28:00] kormoc: what I would do if I was you would be to shutdown mythbackend, rename the logfile, start up mythbackend and see if it does it again.
[22:28:00] kjp: how does one shutdown mythbackend without killing it ?
[22:28:00] Tommck: ask it nicely
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[22:28:00] kormoc: not sure with that one.
[22:29:00] Tommck: I think you kill it
[22:29:00] kormoc: with some distros it's /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop
[22:29:00] kjp: Tommck: whats the magic word
[22:29:00] kormoc: and /etc/init.d/mythbackend start to start it again
[22:29:00] Tommck: kill
[22:31:00] kjp: hmm. it doesn't want to restart. most curious
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[22:32:00] kjp: ok got it started again,
[22:33:00] djperegrine: when I press watch tv it goes blank, ( mplayer works ) , the front end says it can't read file rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/cache/cache/ringbuf1.nuv and the backend says "couldn't read data from the capture card in 15 seconds"
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[22:34:00] djperegrine: also , it worked a few times earlier
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[22:35:00] djperegrine: ok, also, after I try to do that, mplayer doesn't work anymore
[22:35:00] kormoc: djperegrine, dmesg have any good output?
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[22:37:00] djperegrine: ahha
[22:37:00] djperegrine: it says
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[22:38:00] kjp: kormoc: Ok, I restarted mythbackend but it's got the same issue. I can see what I've asked it to record in Manually Schedule
[22:38:00] djperegrine: ENC Stream 2 OVERFLOW #blabla:Sstealing a buffer 4194699 currently allocated
[22:38:00] djperegrine: over and over again
[22:38:00] kjp: kormoc: but not in "Scheduled recordings"
[22:38:00] djperegrine: when I unload ivtv and modprobe it again mplayer works again
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[22:39:00] kormoc: djperegrine, I'd say that's a ivtv issue for some reason, maybe try the ivtv list
[22:39:00] kormoc: kjp, same bind issue?
[22:39:00] djperegrine: its a old version
[22:39:00] djperegrine: should I upgrade?
[22:39:00] kjp: kormoc: nope
[22:39:00] kormoc: djperegrine, wouldn't hurt to try
[22:40:00] djperegrine: ok let me try
[22:41:00] kjp: kormoc: is there a place I can post 20ish lines of log ?
[22:41:00] kormoc: kjp, pastebin.ca
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[22:42:00] kjp: kormoc: http://pastebin.ca/20903
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[22:46:00] kormoc: kjp, /root isn't writable?
[22:46:00] kjp: sure it is
[22:46:00] kjp: for root
[22:46:00] kormoc: QSettings: error creating /root/.qt
[22:46:00] kormoc: mythbackend is running as?
[22:47:00] kjp: teh backend failed to start when I was logged in as "mythtv" so i ran it as root
[22:47:00] kormoc: okay, so why can't it write to that file then?
[22:47:00] Tommck: gotta love it... I don't know what the problem is... I'll just run as root :)
[22:48:00] Beirdo: Tommck: be nice :)
[22:48:00] Tommck: :)
[22:48:00] Tommck: sorry
[22:48:00] Tommck: at least he used pastebin, right? :)
[22:48:00] kjp: Tommck: heh, I'm not *that* dumb. I'm a well established linux user and have even done some kernel work. I looked into it before I did it.
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[22:48:00] djperegrine: Heyy
[22:48:00] djperegrine: that fixed it :D
[22:49:00] kjp: the knoppmyth script forces mythbackend to run as gid 105
[22:49:00] kjp: when started from /etc/init.d/mythbackend start
[22:49:00] kjp: but you can't force something to run as a set gid unless you're root.
[22:49:00] djperegrine: Ok now the signal is wierd
[22:50:00] djperegrine: like its grainy
[22:50:00] Tommck: I decided long ago not to use "quick fix" type things like KnoppMyth because I always need something that's not there...
[22:50:00] kjp: it can't write to /root/.qt because it's running gid 105
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[22:50:00] kormoc: kjp, ahh, I'd give it it's own dir to write to myself, cause it really should get that file written.
[22:50:00] kjp: Tommck: yes well, I don't have quite the time for all that. Was hoping to get this working rather quickly
[22:50:00] Tommck: yeah... famous last words :)
[22:51:00] kjp: kormoc: ok.
[22:51:00] Tommck: "was hoping to get this working quickly" :) usually winds up taking twice as long .. hehe.
[22:51:00] Tommck: <-- pessimist :)
[22:51:00] kjp: Tommck: If this was anything other than a dvr I'd build it from the cd up using debian unstable
[22:51:00] Tommck: yeah
[22:55:00] terevos: howdy – I'm using ALSA with Fedora Core 4 – every time I restart, my audio levels are muted. Anyone know how to make them restore properly after a reboot?
[22:56:00] kjp: terevos: use the alsa tools package. real distros do that for you automagicly.
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[22:57:00] kormoc: kjp, any luck?
[22:57:00] terevos: kjp: yeah, I'm not a fan of fedora.. but they didn't have any packages for mythtv on Ubuntu
[22:57:00] kjp: terevos: use debian.
[22:58:00] kjp: terevos: (or else).
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[22:59:00] terevos: kjp: I like the debian style.. but debian itself is so outdated – yes, I know – use unstable – but I don't want to use unstable for an essential utlitiy
[22:59:00] kjp: kormoc: I'm attempting to fix the init script so that the fix is permanent. currently any user other than root exits with: Starting MythTV server: mythbackendstart-stop-daemon: Unable to set initgroups() with gid 105
[22:59:00] kjp: terevos: then pull your head out of your ass and try "testing"
[22:59:00] Tommck: geez... manners
[23:00:00] kormoc: kjp, HOME='/home/mythtv/' before starting mythbackend will set the homedir to where you want
[23:00:00] ** kjp appologizes **
[23:00:00] terevos: kjp: yeah, wasn't a fan of testing either.. I ended up horking my system the last time I tried it.. not sure how, but I got it to a state where I couldn't resolve the problems with apt-get
[23:00:00] kjp: terevos: then learn how to install packages without apt-get
[23:00:00] kjp: terevos: man dpkg
[23:00:00] terevos: kjp: ugh.. might as well use Fedora then
[23:01:00] ** kjp gets angry when ignorant people complain about debian. **
[23:01:00] terevos: well.. what's so good about debian besides apt-get ?
[23:01:00] kjp: kormoc: well, I think I realize what knoppmyth is doing.
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[23:02:00] kjp: terevos: our package system (with dpkg) is far superior to anyone elses. that testing has occasional package conflicts with apt-get isn't anything that can't be fixed by dpkg -i
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[23:02:00] kormoc: kjp, please don't start a flamewar...
[23:02:00] kjp: kormoc: I think it's forcing mythbackend to run as root for cpu nicing purposes, while putting it gid mythtv so that the client can connect
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[23:03:00] terevos: kjp: hasn't been my experience.. but I do believe ya that debian's package system is superior.. I just hope someone like Ubuntu takes off and gets debian to be a little more user-friendly
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[23:03:00] kjp: kormoc: your right. I'm sorry. (he asked!)
[23:03:00] kormoc: kjp, mythbackend gid doesn't affect mythfrontend's ability to connect
[23:03:00] kjp: kormoc: then i'm rather at a loss as to how to Permanently fix this.
[23:03:00] terevos: well – seriously.. I want to know about this stuff.. wasn't asking to start a flame war or anything  :)
[23:04:00] kormoc: kjp, he did ask, but how you phrased it just seemed like it was aksing for trouble.
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[23:07:00] hadeees: terevos, GENTOO RULEZ
[23:07:00] terevos: hadeees: I'm too impatient for gentoo
[23:08:00] terevos: I want my initial install without having to wait for it overnight
[23:08:00] hadeees: terevos, eh 6 hours max on a normal computer
[23:08:00] hadeees: and thats with a stage 1
[23:08:00] kormoc: terevos, there's precompiled package cd's.
[23:08:00] hadeees: stage 3 can be done in a couple hours
[23:08:00] terevos: hadeees: yeah, like I said.. I'm impatient
[23:09:00] terevos: I haven't tried stage 3
[23:09:00] kjp: kormoc: no dice.
[23:09:00] kjp: kormoc: let me show you the new log file
[23:09:00] kormoc: hadeees, not sure bout a stage one in 6 hours. my entire system took 22 hours to get where it is now according to genlop.
[23:09:00] kormoc: kjp, sure.
[23:09:00] terevos: next time I play with a new distro, I'll give gentoo another shot
[23:09:00] hadeees: terevos, but i wasn't really starting a talk on this, i just wanted to pour gas on your flaming
[23:09:00] hadeees: kormoc, how slow is your computer?
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[23:10:00] kormoc: hadeees, 2.4 ghz p4
[23:10:00] terevos: hehhe.. not flaming.. just telling it like it is for me.. I don't care what other people use – I chose Fedora because it was the easiest for me at the time and most popular (Wilson's Mythology page)
[23:10:00] hadeees: kormoc, something is wrong there, what did you compile besides xorg? kde? gnome?
[23:10:00] kormoc: kde
[23:10:00] kjp: http://pastebin.ca/20907
[23:11:00] hadeees: kormoc, hmm mabey, i don't use kde or gnome
[23:11:00] hadeees: fluxbox for me
[23:11:00] hadeees: xorg takes a couple hours
[23:11:00] hadeees: thats about it
[23:11:00] kormoc: hadeees, not full kde eather, just kde base and libs, I use xfce as my wm.
[23:11:00] terevos: kjp: is alsa-tools different than alsa-utils?
[23:11:00] hadeees: kormoc, that doesn't should right to me
[23:11:00] kjp: terevos: depends on the distro
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[23:11:00] kormoc: kjp, #
[23:11:00] kormoc: Error getting inputs for the capturecard. Perhaps you have
[23:11:00] kormoc: #
[23:11:00] kormoc: forgotten to bind video sources to your card's inputs?
[23:12:00] terevos: kjp: talking about Fedora Core here..
[23:12:00] kormoc: kjp, check your myth-setup again
[23:12:00] kjp: terevos: I don't know jack about fedora core
[23:12:00] kjp: kormoc: is there a way to force the initiial setup again?
[23:12:00] hadeees: has anyone ever had a problem where a pvr-150 MCE just won't open the firmware, it always says it can't find it for the cx whatever driver
[23:12:00] hadeees: but the damn thing is there
[23:12:00] terevos: kjp: what app am I specifically looking for that will automagically save my alsa levels?
[23:12:00] kormoc: kjp, with that one, no idea, I'd just run mythsetup or myth-setup or whatever it is
[23:13:00] kjp: I keep seeing this line about "Error getting inputs for the capturecard. Perhaps you have
[23:13:00] kjp: forgotten to bind video sources to your card's inputs?"
[23:13:00] kjp: terevos: alsactrl
[23:13:00] kormoc: hadeees, tho, keep in mind, this is over 5 years of emerge logs it adverages together to get a idea of speed of emerges.
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[23:13:00] kjp: terevos: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/man/man1/alsactl.1.html
[23:13:00] hadeees: kormoc, wait you had your system setup for 5 years?
[23:14:00] kjp: terevos: set your card up just like you want it
[23:14:00] hadeees: my only problem with gentoo is you can loose your self with all the programs you install
[23:14:00] kormoc: yeah, same install, from 1999
[23:14:00] terevos: kjp: nope.. definitely don't have that.. guess I'll have to get it
[23:14:00] kjp: terevos: run alsactl store Card#
[23:14:00] terevos: alrighty.. thanks
[23:15:00] hadeees: kormoc, damn thats insane, i don't think i have ever gone over a year
[23:15:00] kjp: terevos: in your bootup scripts call alsactl restore card#
[23:15:00] terevos: yeah, sounds simple enough
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[23:15:00] terevos: if alsactl restore actually works..
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[23:18:00] kormoc: hadeees, it works perfectly fine, I keep it clean, I don't really see a need to reinstall.
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[23:26:00] kjp: kormoc: looks like it's working now.
[23:26:00] kjp: kormoc: the key was pointing the sucker at the tuner again
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[23:28:00] kjp: if I wanted to play videos off another mythtv box, do I just need to mount the other boxes drive via smb in the video storage dir ?
[23:28:00] Tommck: kjp – I think that'd work
[23:29:00] kormoc: kjp, in theory, aye
[23:29:00] Tommck: you also need to go into setup and rescan the videos directory
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[23:40:00] xris: oh, how I SO love dealing with ImageMagick
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[23:59:00] sphing: anyone got myth working on the xbox

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