| Saturday, August 20th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | k-man_: | i get this error |
| [00:00:00] | k-man_: | libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO. |
| [00:00:00] | k-man_: | Can't open VMG info! |
| [00:00:00] | k-man_: | any ideas why? |
| [00:00:00] | The_Tick: | can you watch it on any other dvd players? |
| [00:01:00] | k-man_: | just testing that |
| [00:01:00] | k-man_: | no |
| [00:01:00] | k-man_: | don't think so |
| [00:01:00] | The_Tick: | probably why |
| [00:01:00] | k-man_: | whats a good player to test it with? |
| [00:01:00] | The_Tick: | i think myth uses mplayer |
| [00:02:00] | The_Tick: | try vlc |
| [00:02:00] | The_Tick: | also might try another computer if you have one |
| [00:02:00] | k-man_: | yeah |
| [00:02:00] | The_Tick: | or a box top dvd player |
| [00:02:00] | k-man_: | i just tryed vlc |
| [00:02:00] | k-man_: | no go |
| [00:02:00] | k-man_: | box top? |
| [00:02:00] | The_Tick: | console |
| [00:02:00] | The_Tick: | the things most "normal" people use |
| [00:02:00] | k-man_: | does not compute ;) |
| [00:02:00] | The_Tick: | just see if it can be read first |
| [00:02:00] | k-man_: | oh |
| [00:02:00] | k-man_: | it can be read |
| [00:03:00] | k-man_: | i have watched it a number of times |
| [00:03:00] | The_Tick: | doesn't matter |
| [00:03:00] | The_Tick: | you're having the problem now |
| [00:03:00] | The_Tick: | could be a dvd drive going bum, or a scratched disc |
| [00:03:00] | The_Tick: | all sorts of weirdness you need to check i suppose |
| [00:03:00] | k-man_: | i suppose |
| [00:04:00] | The_Tick: | may not be it, but worth checking |
| [00:04:00] | k-man_: | but i have tested this with multiple dvds |
| [00:04:00] | k-man_: | and none of them work |
| [00:04:00] | The_Tick: | so no dvd works in your current dvd player |
| [00:04:00] | The_Tick: | and you know they are all good dvds |
| [00:04:00] | The_Tick: | you've tried multiple software titles |
| [00:04:00] | The_Tick: | so what's left to test? ;) |
| [00:04:00] | k-man_: | yes |
| [00:04:00] | k-man_: | my hardware |
| [00:04:00] | The_Tick: | aye |
| [00:05:00] | k-man_: | it could by my dvd drive or the dvd software |
| [00:05:00] | The_Tick: | or "dust on the lens" |
| [00:05:00] | k-man_: | The_Tick, i can read cd's and dvd roms ok |
| [00:11:00] | dhofstra_: | does he have the proper decryption libraries installed to play a DVD? |
| [00:11:00] | k-man_: | dhofstra_, well... i think so |
| [00:11:00] | k-man_: | how do i check? |
| [00:11:00] | dhofstra_: | you would've had to install them yourself |
| [00:12:00] | k-man_: | hmmm |
| [00:12:00] | k-man_: | not just an apt-get? |
| [00:12:00] | k-man_: | i think i may have |
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| [00:25:00] | SplasPood: | Can someone assist me getting the composite input working on my PVR-250 card? I wanna have a video camera hooked up to that while I have coax tv into the tuner and switch between them |
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| [00:38:00] | Krazylegz: | xris has me using Wikipedia now. |
| [00:39:00] | Krazylegz: | I still don't always believe it, but I use it. |
| [00:39:00] | xris: | it's handy for most info. |
| [00:40:00] | xris: | and the more you use it, the more machines they order from us, so you're somehow contributing to my and kormoc's paychecks. :) |
| [00:40:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. |
| [00:40:00] | Krazylegz: | I suppose I can use it, then. As long as it's somehow helping MythTV. |
| [00:41:00] | xris: | heh |
| [00:43:00] | dhofstra_: | I haven't ran across too many incorrect things there. I like it alot |
| [00:44:00] | Krazylegz: | mchou and I were just being picky, I think. I have seen some problems, but like xris said, it's good for the most part. |
| [00:44:00] | dhofstra_: | I actually like the 'today in history' section. learned about spitballs in baseball the other day |
| [00:44:00] | Krazylegz: | Sometimes I don't care if I get incorrect information, as long as I get it quickly. :-) |
| [00:45:00] | dhofstra_: | hence why you'd ask questions in IRC .. he he he |
| [00:46:00] | The_Tick: | wheeee |
| [00:46:00] | The_Tick: | how does one get the mythfrontend to play mp3s? |
| [00:46:00] | The_Tick: | dude says ogg plays fine, but he's trying to import his mp3s and it doesn't recognize them |
| [00:47:00] | kormoc: | The_Tick, mythmusic |
| [00:47:00] | Krazylegz: | 1. Put them in your music directory. |
| [00:47:00] | The_Tick: | he's done that |
| [00:47:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh. |
| [00:47:00] | The_Tick: | and he has mythmusic installed |
| [00:48:00] | The_Tick: | it should just pick up mp3? |
| [00:48:00] | kormoc: | in theory |
| [00:49:00] | The_Tick: | cool, we'll look at it more |
| [00:49:00] | The_Tick: | thanks :) |
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| [00:55:00] | xris: | The_Tick: use a distro that allows mp3, and thus has it compiled into its mythmusic package? |
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| [01:00:00] | The_Tick: | xris: i think he's using fc4 |
| [01:00:00] | The_Tick: | i'll tell him that though |
| [01:00:00] | thechris: | well, i've run memtest86. it looks like my RAM is fine |
| [01:01:00] | xris: | The_Tick: with atrpms packages? should have mp3 built in. |
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| [01:09:00] | MrSpiffy: | yo! |
| [01:10:00] | The_Tick: | xris: ya, apparently his apt-get installation goes there |
| [01:10:00] | MrSpiffy: | hey folks – got my new set top frontend running |
| [01:10:00] | MrSpiffy: | except for one thing |
| [01:10:00] | MrSpiffy: | no cddb lookup for import cd |
| [01:11:00] | MrSpiffy: | tough to debug without error messages |
| [01:11:00] | MrSpiffy: | could somebody tell me the script / prog it runs so I can check the perms and execution? |
| [01:12:00] | The_Tick: | ps -aux |
| [01:12:00] | The_Tick: | bah |
| [01:12:00] | The_Tick: | ls -al |
| [01:12:00] | MrSpiffy: | tried that |
| [01:12:00] | MrSpiffy: | no process running |
| [01:12:00] | MrSpiffy: | 'cep mythfrontend |
| [01:13:00] | xris: | thechris: in answer to your earlier question, no, mythtv can't just scan for analog cable/tv channels.. mythtv is not "a tv viewer program," it's a DVR, and thus needs *something* to give it scheduling info. |
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| [01:14:00] | kevin_: | mchou you around? =) |
| [01:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | this is really a pisser – the cddb works great on my other pc frontends |
| [01:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | just not his one |
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| [01:22:00] | ** MrSpiffy went to tweeter to check out dvr's ** | |
| [01:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | they had crapola |
| [01:22:00] | JabbaTheBobo: | Hey folks, was wondering if I can resize and reposition the frontend from outside of mythtv. Do I need to run it in a window to do this? My plan is to have a key combo that shrinks the mythtv window and pops up my browser next to it. Sound doable? |
| [01:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | hmm |
| [01:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | was wondering if I can resize and reposition the frontend from outside of mythtv : |
| [01:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | nope |
| [01:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | tried that |
| [01:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | BUT |
| [01:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | I can grab the window and move it |
| [01:27:00] | JabbaTheBobo: | hmmm... if its running in a window does that window have some property that makes it un-resizable? |
| [01:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | maybe you can write a script that closes mythfrontend, changes the window size and position settings in the DB, then re-opens it, then launches your browser with specified geometry |
| [01:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | sounds like a lot of work to me |
| [01:28:00] | JabbaTheBobo: | Yah it's a bit clumsy |
| [01:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | don't forget that every time the size/position is changed it re-scales all the theme images |
| [01:28:00] | JabbaTheBobo: | Arg yah, |
| [01:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | which is probably why you can't resize it on the desktop |
| [01:29:00] | JabbaTheBobo: | Yah that sounds right |
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| [01:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | theory – I know less than the developers. I just slept with it for a month |
| [01:30:00] | JabbaTheBobo: | I seem to remember that there's a way to go straight to watching tv without going through the screens that have "watch tv", "manage recordings", etc |
| [01:30:00] | MrSpiffy: | hey JabbaTheBobo, do you know how cddb works in this thing? I'm having a prob with one front end |
| [01:31:00] | JabbaTheBobo: | actually don't even know what cddb is ;) I've only been running myth for about a week |
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| [01:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | ah |
| [01:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | it's the thing that looks up cd info when you rip one |
| [01:33:00] | JabbaTheBobo: | Yah haven't tried to rip any cds yet |
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| [01:34:00] | kevin_: | anyone know of a good guide/faq for getting tv-out going on an mx440 on mandriva? |
| [01:37:00] | MrSpiffy: | sorry no |
| [01:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | try goolge mx440 tv-out x,.org (or xfree86) |
| [01:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | ?? |
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| [02:03:00] | thechris: | so any word as to how one can get mythfilldatabase to work? |
| [02:08:00] | thechris: | error rescheduling id -1 in ScheduledRecording::signalChange |
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| [02:11:00] | thechris: | syn |
| [02:14:00] | kevin_: | syn ack |
| [02:14:00] | kevin_: | =) |
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| [02:15:00] | thechris: | ack |
| [02:15:00] | thechris: | ok, so now that we know were here... |
| [02:16:00] | thechris: | still having issues with ivtv and mythtv |
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| [02:24:00] | thechris: | ivtv causes a kernel panic. any help? |
| [02:25:00] | Cromz: | ok.. so like I was looking on newegg for a cheap pci nvidia card.. the two cards I looked at had a customer review that said something about using them on a mythtv box. :) |
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| [02:31:00] | MrSpiffy: | ok folks |
| [02:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | there must be a bug in the fc3 rpm / release for mythmusic |
| [02:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | import cd either locks the machine or cddb doesn't work |
| [02:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | no help in any log or messages to console |
| [02:35:00] | thechris: | anyone get ivtv 0.3 to work? |
| [02:36:00] | kormoc: | thechris, yes |
| [02:37:00] | thechris: | and it doesn't cause a kernel panic? |
| [02:37:00] | kormoc: | nope |
| [02:37:00] | kormoc: | what version are you using? |
| [02:37:00] | mchou: | kevin_: what's up? |
| [02:39:00] | mchou: | POS fan |
| [02:39:00] | mchou: | what's all the infernal noise??? |
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| [02:41:00] | Cromz: | oh good.. I half thought mchou had a fan.. a follower.. ;) shoot it mchou and get a liquid cooler :> |
| [02:43:00] | mchou: | sigh. I dont know where the racket is comong from. |
| [02:44:00] | mchou: | coming* |
| [02:44:00] | Cromz: | the squiral cage on the cpu? |
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| [02:48:00] | mchou: | nope, aint coming from CPU. |
| [02:48:00] | mchou: | disconnected the chipset fan too. That mad things a tad better, but not by much. |
| [02:48:00] | mchou: | made* |
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| [03:15:00] | ixalarx: | Has anyone here ever tried installing mythTV on a tivo? |
| [03:16:00] | ihaque: | i've an issue with mythmusic and mythgallery where they die with undefined symbol errors when mythfrontend loads; _ZNK9QGLWidget16setMouseTrackingEb and _ZNK9QGLWidget9classNameEv |
| [03:16:00] | ihaque: | any ideas? |
| [03:17:00] | ihaque: | mythfrontend continues loading fine, but trying to select the music options in media gallery or setup doesn't do anything. |
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| [03:18:00] | mchou: | ihaque: mismatched libraries. recompile myth :) |
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| [04:05:00] | Geckofiend: | mchou heh you mean "ihaque: mismatched libraries those plugins" |
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| [04:29:00] | tzanger: | evening all |
| [04:29:00] | tzanger: | has anyone else noticed that the video player won't back up to the main menu? |
| [04:30:00] | tzanger: | menu/exit/left arrow...ntohing works (hauppauge remote) |
| [04:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | What version/how recent is the code you are running? Works fine for me |
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| [04:32:00] | tzanger: | with irxevent and this is 0.18 IIRC (checking) |
| [04:32:00] | tzanger: | 0.18.1 actually |
| [04:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | ok, I don't use lirc or 0.18.1 release so I can't really compare mine |
| [04:33:00] | tzanger: | actually back/exit and menu buttons both don't seem to work but leftarrow seems to go backward in the menus |
| [04:33:00] | tzanger: | irw shows lirc sees it |
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| [05:06:00] | ihaque: | mchou: did a re-emerge of mythtv as well as mythmusic, no dice. |
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| [05:13:00] | fiveiron_: | anyone running mythtv on debian? |
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| [05:15:00] | CCFL_Man: | i'm running a frontend on debian for xbox |
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| [05:17:00] | fiveiron_: | the install docs say i need qmake, but i dont have it... can i apt-get it? |
| [05:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | qmake comes with QT |
| [05:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | usually in $QTDIR/bin/ |
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| [05:20:00] | CCFL_Man: | how can one make mplayer play .asx video files? |
| [05:22:00] | gf: | when installing mythdora upon boot i get a grub error 15 |
| [05:22:00] | gf: | any ideas? |
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| [05:25:00] | fiveiron_: | qt? |
| [05:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | QT is the library framework Myth uses extensively for everything from graphical widgets, database access and string manipulations |
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| [05:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | same library KDE uses |
| [05:27:00] | fiveiron_: | lol... so i'm assuming i need to get that.... apt-get? |
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| [05:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | You would need it yes, I assume apt-get would do the trick :) |
| [05:30:00] | CCFL_Man: | bah |
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| [05:30:00] | CCFL_Man: | forget mplayer, xine plays it |
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| [05:31:00] | bomba: | is there a release on the horizon or should I just grab cvs? |
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| [05:32:00] | FairWtns: | Friday night drinkin in mythtv-users. Good times I had back when this was common. |
| [05:33:00] | CCFL_Man: | FairWtns: why is mplayer so hard to satisfy? |
| [05:33:00] | FairWtns: | I give up? |
| [05:33:00] | FairWtns: | Is that a joke, or a question? Because I'm confused. Hard to satisfy what? |
| [05:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | bomba: there hasn't been any talk of a release that I've seen |
| [05:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | and cvs is old n busted, svn is the new hotness |
| [05:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac |
| [05:35:00] | FairWtns: | GreyFoxx did you say you used KDevelop? |
| [05:35:00] | fiveiron_: | hmmm... anyone know what package i should apt-get in debian if i want qt3? |
| [05:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't like IDE's. |
| [05:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use VI/ViM |
| [05:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Gecko uses KDevelop I think |
| [05:36:00] | FairWtns: | I'm going to have to get a book on Vi and Emacs. People keep touting it and such. I love a full-featured program, and I'm an old hat from the DOS day, but to me an IDE usually makes me focus on code. |
| [05:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't see it making a lick of difference, except for any sort of auto syntax features |
| [05:38:00] | tzanger: | I am a fan of the vi, but I use kate too |
| [05:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | To me, a text editor with syntax highlighting , in a unix environment is perfect.t And vim+ctags does the job fast and well |
| [05:39:00] | FairWtns: | GreyFoxx:It saves a lot of time of what I call "mind-wasters", like having the methods of a class in a pane so I can easily see what arguments I need and in what format w/o constantly opening/switching windows. |
| [05:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Fair It's not like you have to run vi fullscreen :) You can split screen, have multiple terminals, use ctags to jump directly to teh routine and verify if need and one more keystroke pops you back to where you were |
| [05:41:00] | FairWtns: | I know what I want my code to *do*, when I have to worry about to *say* it, then I'm wasting time. How to *do* it, is where the art comes in to play. If that makes any sense. |
| [05:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | But, I do see the use in a auto syntax type of system if only to give suggestions as you type |
| [05:42:00] | FairWtns: | GreyFoxx:I will admit my complete and utter ignorance of vi/ctags. I've just added "get books on Vi/Emacs" to my list. Can't be ignorant forever. :) |
| [05:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | If anything, no matter what editor you prefer most of the time, a working knowledge of VI is a good thing. |
| [05:42:00] | FairWtns: | GreyFoxx:Yes, like when I begin typing a method, and the IDE lists the arguments beneath my typing, that is usually very useful. |
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| [05:42:00] | NightBird: | FairWtns, you could try though |
| [05:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's the one editor you can count on being on every unix system to come accross |
| [05:43:00] | NightBird: | (to be ignorant forever) |
| [05:43:00] | FairWtns: | Yeah, my lack of vi knowledge makes me an outcast in most linux circles. |
| [05:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | unless it's run by a moron who symlinked it to pico or something |
| [05:43:00] | FairWtns: | NightBird:And I will. |
| [05:44:00] | tzanger: | FairWtns: that is a big distraction to me |
| [05:44:00] | NightBird: | pico won't be on every unix system? |
| [05:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | NightBird: hahaha |
| [05:44:00] | FairWtns: | Oh, to be ignorant forever? You mean innocence? Aaah, if only I could. If only I could. Dogs would remain puppies, a sunny day outside would be my ultimate goal, and the pretty girls would never admit they poop. |
| [05:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | NightBird: yeah, right beside kde :) |
| [05:44:00] | ** NightBird doesn't know vi, but I do know pico... ** | |
| [05:45:00] | NightBird: | that and most of my code editing is done in vs.net |
| [05:45:00] | tzanger: | FairWtns: people pay big money to see pretty girls poop |
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| [05:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's funny, I have an uncle who was a unix hacker back in the mid 80's and he sat down at my box to type up a letter and fired up vi and went to town. |
| [05:45:00] | FairWtns: | tzanger:Yes, and apparently, things with eels. And if anyone knows what I'm talking about, no links please. |
| [05:45:00] | tzanger: | GreyFoxx: that's exactly what I do :-) |
| [05:45:00] | ** NightBird doesn't smell that badly ** | |
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| [05:46:00] | tzanger: | I put gvim on my win32 machine |
| [05:46:00] | tzanger: | rightclick-edit with vim just rocks |
| [05:46:00] | tzanger: | I find it SO much better than even straight notepad |
| [05:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | vi/vim is all I use, and gvim on my windows laptop for work stuff |
| [05:46:00] | FairWtns: | NightBird:Usually anyone that brings up anything.net in a linux/unix place is bound to be struck. |
| [05:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | other other editor is MSWord cause I have to for work documents |
| [05:46:00] | NightBird: | seeing girls poo isn't on my turn on list |
| [05:47:00] | fiveiron_: | sweet |
| [05:47:00] | fiveiron_: | found a way to apt-get mythtv |
| [05:47:00] | fiveiron_: | :) |
| [05:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | But in the end as long as you are productive with whatever you use that's what counts |
| [05:47:00] | FairWtns: | I just need to whip up a simple transfer program for myth so my girl and I can use it to sync our iPod/PSPs. |
| [05:48:00] | FairWtns: | Although I still can't figure out why MythMusic just hangs. I have never gotten it to work. |
| [05:48:00] | FairWtns: | That could be a major obstacle. Hate to have to write my own ripper. That would suck. |
| [05:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I need to reinstall my old desktop so that I can test xv output under openbsd |
| [05:48:00] | NightBird: | FairWtns, you know... I'll admit it... I'm new to linux.... however... vs.net is what I'm most used to, so I don't know if I'll be trying vi anytime soon... my systems are all networked together, so if I need to, I could edit the code on one machine, compile and run on another... |
| [05:48:00] | NightBird: | I might even have projects for it... |
| [05:49:00] | NightBird: | speaking of myth... I need to go continue packing |
| [05:49:00] | FairWtns: | NightBird:hehe it's ok. It doesn't matter what you code in, you will learn what is best for you. |
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| [05:50:00] | FairWtns: | I wouldn't jump from VS.net to Vi, that would be a jarring experience if one is new to linux. |
| [05:50:00] | NightBird: | weee one more day until I'll be in perpetual AC instead of this no-AC place... |
| [05:50:00] | NightBird: | actually.. |
| [05:50:00] | FairWtns: | Hey GreyFoxx: Want to give me a one sentence summary of CTags? I'm out of touch and I see this little "CTags" tabbie in KDevelop.. |
| [05:50:00] | NightBird: | tomorrow I'll be in a car with the AC running most of the time, so... |
| [05:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | FairWtns: http://ctags.sourceforge.net/ |
| [05:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | will explain it better than I |
| [05:53:00] | FairWtns: | Interesting. |
| [05:53:00] | FairWtns: | Like a meta-tagger for languages. |
| [05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [05:53:00] | FairWtns: | And these can be generated automatically? |
| [05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | and vim has internal hooks for it, so if I have atagfile loaded I can CTRL-[ when my cursor is over the name and jump right to it |
| [05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | sure |
| [05:55:00] | FairWtns: | Interesting. I have been out of coding too long. |
| [05:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | do a google for "vim ctags" there are several tutorials on using them together |
| [05:57:00] | FairWtns: | So back on topic, what's planned for .19? Any sites I can browse up? The wiki seems stale and the commits list is mostly bugfixes from what I can see. |
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| [06:18:00] | jasoncohen: | i just replaced my ATI radeon 9700 pro on my mythtv backend for a nvidia fx5200. the tv-out works great (no more black borders) but when i try to play back a tv show or watch live tv mythfrontend just dies |
| [06:18:00] | jasoncohen: | what would cause that? |
| [06:19:00] | FairWtns: | jasoncohen:Have you tried running the frontend verbosely? |
| [06:19:00] | FairWtns: | My best guess is an opengl vsync problem, but me no smart. |
| [06:20:00] | fatmatt: | jasoncohen: what settings are you using on the nvidia for tv out? |
| [06:20:00] | jasoncohen: | i see a mysql database connection and then a huge block with text that appears to be an error |
| [06:20:00] | jasoncohen: | then "aborted" |
| [06:21:00] | jasoncohen: | i'm displaying it on my tv so i can barely read the text |
| [06:21:00] | fatmatt: | I'm not able to help the crashing but I'm trying to tweak my display a bit, I've got an older nvidia card |
| [06:21:00] | fatmatt: | jasoncohen: can you ssh in? |
| [06:21:00] | jasoncohen: | fatmatt, yes |
| [06:22:00] | jasoncohen: | fatmatt, everything auto-detected. i just used "Option "TVOverScan" "0.58" to get rid of the borders |
| [06:22:00] | jasoncohen: | and "DisplaySize 255 191" for the monitor section to get bigger text |
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| [06:23:00] | fatmatt: | that works? I'm running 600x400 |
| [06:23:00] | jasoncohen: | i'm using 1024x768 |
| [06:23:00] | jasoncohen: | you need a gf4 or higher for overscan to work |
| [06:24:00] | FairWtns: | jasoncohen: Run the frontend with verbose logging. "mythfrontend --verbose all" |
| [06:26:00] | jasoncohen: | can i log the output to a text file? |
| [06:26:00] | FairWtns: | Sure. "mythfrontend --verbose all > /some/path/filename.txt |
| [06:27:00] | jasoncohen: | yeah, tried that |
| [06:27:00] | jasoncohen: | didn't work though |
| [06:27:00] | FairWtns: | Didn't work? You put a real path in there right? |
| [06:27:00] | jasoncohen: | it only logs up until "new db connection" and then spews the output to the terminal |
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| [06:29:00] | jasoncohen: | ok, i just pasted the text in gedit and i can read it via pico over ssh |
| [06:29:00] | FairWtns: | Sure. "mythfrontend --verbose all > /some/path/filename.txt $2>1" *all* output should then go to the file. |
| [06:32:00] | jasoncohen: | http://pastebin.ca/20514 |
| [06:35:00] | jasoncohen: | any idea what that eror means? |
| [06:35:00] | FairWtns: | lirc error isn't good. Do you need lirc support? |
| [06:35:00] | jasoncohen: | no |
| [06:35:00] | jasoncohen: | but, the only thing i changed was my video card |
| [06:35:00] | jasoncohen: | so i don't see how that could be the problem |
| [06:36:00] | FairWtns: | You never know what *really* changes. :) What distro do you use? |
| [06:36:00] | jasoncohen: | debian |
| [06:36:00] | jasoncohen: | what's the big block of text at the bottom? |
| [06:37:00] | FairWtns: | Looks like the block of code that's crashing. "create thread" |
| [06:38:00] | FairWtns: | I assume you *know* your sql server is running? |
| [06:38:00] | jasoncohen: | should be |
| [06:38:00] | FairWtns: | ps aux | grep mysqld |
| [06:38:00] | jasoncohen: | 7805 ? S 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe |
| [06:38:00] | jasoncohen: | 7842 ? S 0:01 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --skip-locking --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock |
| [06:38:00] | FairWtns: | looks good. |
| [06:39:00] | jasoncohen: | i had a power outage...it could have corrupted my mysql db |
| [06:39:00] | FairWtns: | Now I admit, I'm no expert, just so you know. |
| [06:39:00] | jasoncohen: | what's the command to check it? |
| [06:39:00] | FairWtns: | jasoncohen:I've had that happen, but usually you get a more accurate error message. "mysqld:error loading suchandsuch" |
| [06:40:00] | FairWtns: | jasoncohen:Can you check /var/log/messages? Or /var/log/everything/current? |
| [06:41:00] | FairWtns: | Paste a bunch of that into the pastebin |
| [06:41:00] | jasoncohen: | ok |
| [06:42:00] | jasoncohen: | the last messages from /var/log/messages was at 12:15 when i started the machine up |
| [06:42:00] | jasoncohen: | nothing current |
| [06:42:00] | jasoncohen: | ah, nevermind |
| [06:43:00] | FairWtns: | Depends on you logger as to which is there. |
| [06:43:00] | jasoncohen: | doesn't look like there's anything interesting there |
| [06:44:00] | jasoncohen: | just routine stuff i see normally |
| [06:44:00] | jasoncohen: | where can i find the command to check the db? |
| [06:49:00] | jasoncohen: | FairWtns, any idea what could be causing this? |
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| [06:50:00] | FairWtns: | sorry was reading... |
| [06:51:00] | jasoncohen: | mysqlcheck mythconverg shows all OKs |
| [06:51:00] | fatmatt: | anyone know why GUI X offset and Y don't do anything? |
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| [06:52:00] | FairWtns: | Nah, it's not the db, in my guess. |
| [06:52:00] | FairWtns: | fatmatt:They wont if you run fullscreen. |
| [06:52:00] | jasoncohen: | any idea what is causing it? |
| [06:52:00] | fatmatt: | ahh, okay, |
| [06:53:00] | jasoncohen: | FairWtns, i'm going to put my ati card back in and see if that fixes the problem |
| [06:53:00] | jasoncohen: | FairWtns, brb, i have to take the video card out of this machine |
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| [06:54:00] | FairWtns: | This thread: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/archive/o_t/t . . . thtv_up.html seems to also suggest lirc as the culprint. |
| [06:55:00] | FairWtns: | jasoncohen: do "lsmod" |
| [07:06:00] | NightBird: | good night... I'll be driving to college tomorrow, so I won't be on till much later... |
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| [07:14:00] | jasoncohen: | i can't believe this...now it says it can't load the fglrx module even though i can do "modprobe fglrx" just fine |
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| [07:19:00] | dudehappy: | what is myth tv |
| [07:19:00] | dudehappy: | what does it do |
| [07:19:00] | dudehappy: | actually |
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| [07:21:00] | jasoncohen: | ah, nevermind. i just had to remove nvidia-glx and re-install fglrx-driver |
| [07:22:00] | jasoncohen: | FairWtns, well, it works fine with the ATI card |
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| [07:24:00] | jasoncohen: | FairWtns, what would cause mythfrontend to simply not work with an nvidia card? |
| [07:24:00] | jasoncohen: | perhaps i need to recompile mythtv with different options |
| [07:25:00] | dudehappy: | can someone tell em what myth tv is |
| [07:25:00] | jasoncohen: | FairWtns, i just used ./configure |
| [07:25:00] | dudehappy: | is it a system that allows u to record tv and play it back on your comp? |
| [07:26:00] | jasoncohen: | which has x11, xrandr, xv suport and disables XvMC, XvMC VLD and OpenGL vsync |
| [07:27:00] | dudehappy: | can someone help me |
| [07:27:00] | dudehappy: | what exactly is a mythtv |
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| [07:29:00] | jasoncohen: | FairWtns, didn't you say something about opengl vsync before? |
| [07:29:00] | dudehappy: | ooooooooo crap |
| [07:29:00] | dudehappy: | pls someone hlp me understand what is myth tv |
| [07:29:00] | adante: | dudehappy: funky home theatre pc software that is at once marvelous and befuddlingly frustrating |
| [07:30:00] | dudehappy: | adante why would someone want a home theatre pc |
| [07:31:00] | jasoncohen: | dudehappy, go to mythtv.org |
| [07:31:00] | adante: | hazarding a guess based on the words, I imagine it would have something to do with realising theatre like functionality.. at home! |
| [07:31:00] | dudehappy: | i went there jason |
| [07:31:00] | dudehappy: | and it didnt help |
| [07:32:00] | dudehappy: | i thought it was a program that allowed u to watch satellite tv on your pc or sumthing |
| [07:33:00] | adante: | well if it didn't, nothing can :D |
| [07:33:00] | dudehappy: | o hahah i thought it was some type of emulator |
| [07:33:00] | dudehappy: | or sumthign |
| [07:33:00] | dudehappy: | for sat tv |
| [07:33:00] | dudehappy: | for unsubscribers |
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| [07:35:00] | jasoncohen: | i still don't understand why changing my video card would cause such an error |
| [07:36:00] | jasoncohen: | does anyone know what the last erorr in http://pastebin.ca/20514 means? |
| [07:36:00] | jasoncohen: | or how to resolve it |
| [07:36:00] | dudehappy: | did u try to updateing your os |
| [07:37:00] | jasoncohen: | it is up to date- i'm running debian sarge |
| [07:38:00] | dudehappy: | any new drivers or patches or software for your video card on the website |
| [07:38:00] | jasoncohen: | this isn't windows |
| [07:39:00] | jasoncohen: | updates come from the distribution |
| [07:39:00] | dudehappy: | i never herd of debian sarge so i dont kno |
| [07:39:00] | dudehappy: | im just throwing ideas |
| [07:39:00] | jasoncohen: | www.debian.org |
| [07:39:00] | dudehappy: | thtats all |
| [07:39:00] | jasoncohen: | aren't you using linux? |
| [07:40:00] | dudehappy: | no |
| [07:40:00] | dudehappy: | xp |
| [07:40:00] | dudehappy: | never tried linux |
| [07:43:00] | jasoncohen: | well mythtv is a program for linux |
| [07:44:00] | dudehappy: | yeah i read that |
| [07:44:00] | dudehappy: | so whats the difference between windows and debian |
| [07:45:00] | jasoncohen: | debian is just a distribution of linux |
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| [07:45:00] | jasoncohen: | there are many differences |
| [07:45:00] | jasoncohen: | if you want to try out linux for yourself i would try a distribution like ubuntu which is free and easy to use |
| [07:46:00] | jasoncohen: | i use it on my desktop |
| [07:46:00] | jasoncohen: | it's extremely fast too |
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| [07:47:00] | jasoncohen: | dudehappy, check out ubuntulinux.org |
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| [07:56:00] | jasoncohen: | i fixed the problem by enabling opengl vsync |
| [08:07:00] | jasoncohen: | hmm, now i have a blue border on the top and left side. anyone know how to remove it? |
| [08:07:00] | jasoncohen: | i only see it when playing video |
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| [08:29:00] | xris: | so, does Beirdo stay up late on weekends? |
| [08:29:00] | jasoncohen: | i think i found the solution to the blue border problem |
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| [08:30:00] | jasoncohen: | "the blue border is due to the Xv colorkey being set to a whacky value |
| [08:30:00] | jasoncohen: | % xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 0" |
| [08:30:00] | jasoncohen: | is that supposed to go in my XF86Config-4? |
| [08:31:00] | xris: | I think that'd be something you'd run on the command line |
| [08:32:00] | jasoncohen: | xvattr: command not found |
| [08:33:00] | jasoncohen: | any idea what package i need to get xvattr? apt-cache search and apt-file search shows 0 |
| [08:35:00] | xris: | wtf is it with people applying for a job in seattle when they live NOWHERE near seattle, and don't include ANY mention of plans to move to seattle |
| [08:38:00] | Cardoe: | I'm gonna send xris my resume just to drive him nuts. |
| [08:39:00] | xris: | Cardoe: maybe I shouldn't become a manager.... |
| [08:39:00] | xris: | I just want to slap some of these people |
| [08:39:00] | xris: | actually, I have 6 decent candidates so far |
| [08:39:00] | Cardoe: | why can't you? |
| [08:40:00] | ** Cardoe hits his employee's ** | |
| [08:40:00] | xris: | Cardoe: that's after you've hired them. can't hit them beforehand. |
| [08:40:00] | Cardoe: | but then again I have a crappy college job. |
| [08:40:00] | Cardoe: | and I'm a senior at college now |
| [08:40:00] | Cardoe: | so I'm a manager |
| [08:40:00] | Cardoe: | the rest of the minions are underclassmen and a handful of college students. |
| [08:41:00] | xris: | see, that's different, too... |
| [08:41:00] | Cardoe: | exactly. |
| [08:41:00] | xris: | could do all KINDS of things to the LUsers in college. |
| [08:43:00] | xris: | also annoys me when people don't put DATES on their resumes... |
| [08:43:00] | xris: | I don't care if you did X if it was 15 years ago.... |
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| [08:47:00] | xris: | so, anyone doing anything exciting tonight? |
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| [08:50:00] | xris: | lovely. lxm downloads are broken |
| [08:51:00] | xris: | oh, there it went. had to log out/in again. |
| [08:53:00] | xris: | wondering if my broken midnight theme was the result of a partial download. |
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| [08:59:00] | ** Atamido kicks xris and runs. ** | |
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| [09:08:00] | jasoncohen: | i can't use xvattr. i keep getting an error saying my display couldn't be opened |
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| [09:19:00] | ** xris reminds Atamido that it's a REALLY bad idea to abuse the channel operators ** | |
| [09:21:00] | ** Atamido hopes the +v doesn't increase to anything else. ** | |
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| [09:26:00] | ** Atamido makes an elaborate comment in defense of his actions. ** | |
| [09:27:00] | The_Tick: | xris: re: exciting: releasing new version of growl |
| [09:27:00] | xris: | ? |
| [09:27:00] | The_Tick: | http://growl.info |
| [09:27:00] | The_Tick: | notification framework for os x |
| [09:28:00] | xris: | ah |
| [09:28:00] | xris: | nothing I can play with. :( |
| [09:28:00] | The_Tick: | yea :( |
| [09:29:00] | The_Tick: | there are perl and python and php scripts to send out notifications growl can listen for |
| [09:29:00] | The_Tick: | when i learn php i may submit a patch to add it to mythweb, or make plugin |
| [09:29:00] | The_Tick: | a plugin* |
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| [09:33:00] | xris: | man, don't remind me how much more work I have to do on mythweb. heh. |
| [09:33:00] | The_Tick: | haha |
| [09:34:00] | The_Tick: | we have a ton on growl :( |
| [09:34:00] | The_Tick: | like 70 tickets for the next major release |
| [09:34:00] | ** The_Tick sighs ** | |
| [09:34:00] | The_Tick: | that friend i was talking about, i'll convince him to learn php and help ya out if i can |
| [09:34:00] | The_Tick: | he knows what he wants usually |
| [09:41:00] | xris: | well, it's a matter of my needing to redo the API before I can even begin to think about accepting new patches again. |
| [09:41:00] | The_Tick: | hehe |
| [09:42:00] | The_Tick: | what we did was just kept a list |
| [09:42:00] | The_Tick: | http://trac.growl.info/trac/wiki/GrowlSourceCleanup |
| [09:42:00] | The_Tick: | and started at it |
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| [09:42:00] | The_Tick: | otherwise you just keep saying you will, and you never do |
| [09:42:00] | The_Tick: | and you hate it forever |
| [09:43:00] | xris: | well, in this case, I'm working on other stuff that needs to be done first. |
| [09:43:00] | The_Tick: | yea |
| [09:43:00] | The_Tick: | took us forever to get to the point we needed to be in order to do this as well |
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| [11:15:00] | thechris: | looks like i need to buy yet another computer |
| [11:15:00] | ** thechris hates monarch computers ** | |
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| [11:36:00] | HyperStream: | where can i download all the mythtv require source(im at a internet cafe) |
| [11:36:00] | HyperStream: | and what else am i gonna need before installing? |
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| [11:56:00] | thechris: | HyperStream: well, qt, mysql, tv-tuner modules, X11 server (xorg/xfree), maybe others |
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| [12:01:00] | HyperStream: | qt?? |
| [12:05:00] | k-man_: | can mythvideo search subfolders? |
| [12:05:00] | k-man_: | or only the top directory? |
| [12:05:00] | Agrajag-: | for what? |
| [12:05:00] | k-man_: | for videos |
| [12:05:00] | Agrajag-: | oh videos |
| [12:05:00] | Agrajag-: | sorry read that wrong |
| [12:05:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah it does that by deafult |
| [12:06:00] | Agrajag-: | default even |
| [12:06:00] | k-man_: | does it |
| [12:06:00] | k-man_: | so i can just dump a direcotry tree of my videos in there? |
| [12:06:00] | k-man_: | what about network shares? |
| [12:06:00] | k-man_: | samba shares |
| [12:06:00] | Agrajag-: | if you mount them in your videos directory (or symlink them) mythvideo will find them.. |
| [12:06:00] | k-man_: | ah |
| [12:06:00] | k-man_: | ok |
| [12:06:00] | k-man_: | thanks |
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| [12:19:00] | k-man_: | hey, is it possible to get mythtv to work on a dual head setup |
| [12:19:00] | k-man_: | where the second head is my TV? |
| [12:19:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah |
| [12:19:00] | Agrajag-: | i do that |
| [12:19:00] | k-man_: | so i can effectively use the computer at the same time? |
| [12:19:00] | k-man_: | oh? |
| [12:19:00] | k-man_: | cool |
| [12:19:00] | Agrajag-: | http://home.whatsbeef.net:1339/~filip/XF86Config-4 |
| [12:20:00] | k-man_: | nice |
| [12:20:00] | k-man_: | was it tricky to get going? |
| [12:20:00] | Agrajag-: | that creates another X screen |
| [12:20:00] | Agrajag-: | no |
| [12:20:00] | Agrajag-: | very simple |
| [12:20:00] | Agrajag-: | you then just start mythfrontend like DISPLAY=:0.1 mythfrontend |
| [12:20:00] | k-man_: | oh |
| [12:21:00] | k-man_: | but can you use both simultaneously? |
| [12:21:00] | k-man_: | so that X screen is in the same login as your first x screen? |
| [12:21:00] | k-man_: | i currently have it working on a different X console |
| [12:21:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah i can use both at the same time |
| [12:21:00] | k-man_: | but its a different X session if you see what i mean |
| [12:21:00] | k-man_: | oh , cool |
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| [12:28:00] | k-man_: | Agrajag-, what is the difference between nvidia0 and nvidia1 in your config? |
| [12:28:00] | k-man_: | is it the same card? |
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| [12:43:00] | k-man_: | Agrajag-, ? |
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| [13:04:00] | k-man_: | Agrajag-, are you around? |
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| [13:50:00] | ** Tommck is confused about nuvexport output... ** | |
| [13:50:00] | Tommck: | I ran the mpeg2cut option on 2 episodes of the same show... |
| [13:50:00] | Tommck: | one of them came out as 1.7GB |
| [13:51:00] | Tommck: | the other came out as 400+MB |
| [13:51:00] | Tommck: | same length show |
| [13:51:00] | Tommck: | nuv files almost identical in size |
| [13:51:00] | Tommck: | no errors |
| [13:51:00] | Tommck: | ran it twice to make sure I wasn't nuts |
| [13:51:00] | Tommck: | anyone have any ideas why this would happen? |
| [13:53:00] | k-man_: | can mythvideo get eppisode information somehow? |
| [13:53:00] | Tommck: | episode? |
| [13:53:00] | k-man_: | episode |
| [13:53:00] | k-man_: | yeah |
| [13:53:00] | k-man_: | i mean |
| [13:53:00] | Tommck: | mythvideo's not for TV (directly) |
| [13:53:00] | k-man_: | i have a few episodes of shoes from a dvd |
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| [13:53:00] | k-man_: | they were backed up from a dvd |
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| [13:54:00] | Tommck: | I don't see how it could |
| [13:55:00] | k-man_: | oh well |
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| [14:49:00] | k-man_: | is there a trick to getting mythvideo to work with the remote control? |
| [14:52:00] | Tommck: | what part of mythvideo? when you're playing the videos? |
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| [14:53:00] | k-man_: | well |
| [14:53:00] | k-man_: | yeah |
| [14:53:00] | k-man_: | i just played a video and lost all control |
| [14:53:00] | k-man_: | even the keyboard didn't work |
| [14:53:00] | Tommck: | that has to do with whatever program you're using to watch the videos |
| [14:53:00] | k-man_: | i had to kill mythtv to get out of it |
| [14:53:00] | k-man_: | mplayer |
| [14:53:00] | k-man_: | i believe |
| [14:54:00] | Tommck: | then find something that has to do with key bindings and mplayer |
| [14:54:00] | k-man_: | so mythvideo just passes control to mplayer |
| [14:54:00] | k-man_: | ? |
| [14:54:00] | k-man_: | ok |
| [14:54:00] | k-man_: | thanks |
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| [15:28:00] | Coume: | erm I can't use xine over ssh anymore :/ don't catch the prbl |
| [15:29:00] | sparky_elite: | hey, my family wants to record all old VHS to DVD so I figured I could use my hauppage card with VGA input. I can get the video to record but does anyone know how to also get the sound |
| [15:30:00] | Tommck: | vga input? |
| [15:30:00] | sparky_elite: | yea and I tried putting the sound out into the microphone |
| [15:30:00] | sparky_elite: | i mean RCA |
| [15:30:00] | sparky_elite: | ...sorry |
| [15:30:00] | Tommck: | ok |
| [15:30:00] | sparky_elite: | its early in the morning |
| [15:31:00] | sparky_elite: | and I get my acronyms mixed up...video isn't my thing |
| [15:31:00] | Tommck: | ok |
| [15:31:00] | Tommck: | which hauppauge card is this? |
| [15:31:00] | sparky_elite: | i have a winpvr 350 which doens't have rca in, and a winpvr 250 which does have RCA input |
| [15:31:00] | Tommck: | does the 250 also have sound in? |
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| [15:32:00] | sparky_elite: | yea I think so but it doesn't seem like the sound cord from the VCR plugs nicely into it, do I need to run to radioshak to get a convertor? |
| [15:33:00] | rah: | g++ -shared -Wl,-soname,libmyth-0.18.so.0 -o libmyth-0.18.so.0.18.0 dialogbox.o lcddevice.o mythcontext.o mythwidgets.o oldsettings.o remotefile.o settings.o themedmenu.o util.o mythwizard.o uitypes.o xmlparse.o mythplugin.o mythdialogs.o audiooutput.o inetcomms.o httpcomms.o mythmedia.o uilistbtntype.o uiphoneentry.o generictree.o managedlist.o DisplayRes.o volumecontrol.o volumebase.o audiooutputbase.o dbsettings.o screensaver |
| [15:33:00] | rah: | .o screensaver-null.o output.o langsettings.o mythdbcon.o audiooutputnull.o DisplayResScreen.o util-x11.o qmdcodec.o mythcdrom.o mythmediamonitor.o mythcdrom-linux.o audiooutputalsa.o lirc.o lircevent.o screensaver-x11.o DisplayResX.o moc_dialogbox.o moc_lcddevice.o moc_mythcontext.o moc_mythwidgets.o moc_settings.o moc_themedmenu.o moc_mythwizard.o moc_uitypes.o moc_mythdialogs.o moc_inetcomms.o moc_httpcomms.o moc_mythmedia.o |
| [15:33:00] | rah: | moc_uilistbtntype.o moc_uiphoneentry.o moc_managedlist.o moc_mythcdrom.o moc_mythmediamonitor.o moc_lirc.o moc_screensaver-x11.o -L/usr/share/qt3/lib -L../libmythsamplerate -lmythsamplerate-0.18 -L../libmythsoundtouch -lmythsoundtouch-0.18 -llirc_client -lfreetype -lmp3lame -lasound -ldvdnav -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXinerama -lXv -lXxf86vm -lqt-mt -lXext -lX11 -lm -lpthread |
| [15:33:00] | Tommck: | rah – wtf!??? |
| [15:33:00] | rah: | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXxf86vm |
| [15:33:00] | rah: | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| [15:33:00] | rah: | make[2]: *** [libmyth-0.18.so.0.18.0] Error 1 |
| [15:33:00] | Tommck: | use fucking pastebin, jackass |
| [15:33:00] | rah: | make[2]: Leaving directory `/store/rah/proj/mythtv/mythtv/libs/libmyth' |
| [15:33:00] | rah: | hrm? |
| [15:33:00] | Tommck: | stop spamming |
| [15:33:00] | rah: | Tommck: </flo |
| [15:33:00] | rah: | err |
| [15:33:00] | rah: | </flood> |
| [15:33:00] | rah: | err |
| [15:33:00] | sparky_elite: | tomimo, it looks like this http://www.htpcforums.com/images/htpcf-winpvr250-4.jpg |
| [15:33:00] | rah: | that's like 7 lines |
| [15:33:00] | Tommck: | www.pastebin.ca |
| [15:33:00] | rah: | Tommck: for 7 lines? |
| [15:33:00] | Tommck: | ray.. .it filled 1/2 my irc window.. |
| [15:34:00] | Tommck: | have you ever heard of line wrapping? |
| [15:34:00] | Tommck: | those lines are hundreds of characters long |
| [15:34:00] | rah: | indeed |
| [15:34:00] | rah: | it's only actuall 5 lines |
| [15:34:00] | rah: | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXxf86vm |
| [15:34:00] | Tommck: | sparky_elite – what kind of cord from your vcr? |
| [15:34:00] | rah: | anyone have any ideas? |
| [15:35:00] | Tommck: | rah – why not try google/ |
| [15:35:00] | Tommck: | or see if that is on your machine. |
| [15:35:00] | rah: | Tommck: because that both of those would be a waste of time |
| [15:35:00] | sparky_elite: | i just used what went from the VCR to the TV, it has 3 cables one is RCA video one is some sort of audio and one is svideo |
| [15:35:00] | Tommck: | or, just maybe say "I'm trying to compile XXX and It says it can't find this library: YYY" |
| [15:35:00] | Tommck: | hello of a lot nicer |
| [15:36:00] | rah: | Tommck: err.. I did say that |
| [15:36:00] | Tommck: | when? all I got was your entire friggin link line which doesn' t help |
| [15:36:00] | rah: | Tommck: does that not tell you I'm trying to compile XXX, where XXX is mythtv? |
| [15:37:00] | Tommck: | no... I wasn't going to parse all that shit just to find out what you were doing. |
| [15:37:00] | rah: | err |
| [15:37:00] | rah: | it's a g++ command |
| [15:37:00] | Tommck: | and, frankly, I wouldn't help you if I could (though I can't) because you did that |
| [15:37:00] | rah: | with an error report |
| [15:37:00] | rah: | pasted in #mythtv-users |
| [15:37:00] | Tommck: | no shit... and it was too big to paste in here. |
| [15:37:00] | rah: | and you're having trouble discerning what it's about? |
| [15:37:00] | Tommck: | it was annoying and you don't seem to care |
| [15:37:00] | rah: | you were annoyed by my paste? |
| [15:38:00] | Tommck: | absolutely |
| [15:38:00] | rah: | O_o |
| [15:38:00] | rah: | freak |
| [15:38:00] | Tommck: | whatever |
| [15:38:00] | sparky_elite: | chill out rah .... |
| [15:38:00] | Tommck: | sparky_elite – what kind of audio ? |
| [15:38:00] | sparky_elite: | i'm not sure what the name of it is, but the connector looks exactly the same as the RCA video so i'm assuming maybe its RCA audio? |
| [15:38:00] | Tommck: | it's RCA |
| [15:39:00] | Tommck: | but there are 2, right? |
| [15:39:00] | Tommck: | left and right |
| [15:39:00] | sparky_elite: | no this one only has 1 video, 1 audio,1 svideo(not used) |
| [15:39:00] | Tommck: | no.. I mean from your VCR |
| [15:39:00] | sparky_elite: | no its an OLD POS but it plays NTSC and PAL (so I can record both american and german tapes) |
| [15:40:00] | sparky_elite: | it only has one autio out |
| [15:40:00] | sparky_elite: | and one audio in |
| [15:40:00] | Tommck: | sparky_elite – it's mono audio? |
| [15:40:00] | sparky_elite: | probably, not stereo |
| [15:40:00] | Tommck: | wow |
| [15:40:00] | sparky_elite: | its 12+ years old |
| [15:41:00] | Tommck: | I haven't seen mono audio stuff in 20 years |
| [15:41:00] | sparky_elite: | we probably got it in 1990 when we moved to germany so we could still play our US tapes |
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| [15:41:00] | Tommck: | rah – googling "cannot find -lXxf86vm" gives 44 hits |
| [15:42:00] | rah: | Tommck: what does that tell you? |
| [15:42:00] | Tommck: | that you might be able to find help there |
| [15:42:00] | sparky_elite: | Tommck, is all I need a converter from RCA Audio to digital? |
| [15:42:00] | rah: | it doesn't tell me that |
| [15:42:00] | Tommck: | sparky_elite – RCA to "mini" |
| [15:43:00] | Tommck: | you running ubuntu? |
| [15:43:00] | rah: | Tommck: it tells me it's too common an error message to be of much use |
| [15:43:00] | Tommck: | 44 hits? in google? that's almost nothing |
| [15:43:00] | rah: | heh |
| [15:43:00] | Tommck: | for christ's sake... there's even one about installing MythTV |
| [15:44:00] | sparky_elite: | rah xf86 sounds like your missing XFree86 dev files |
| [15:44:00] | rah: | cool |
| [15:44:00] | rah: | which one? |
| [15:44:00] | rah: | sparky_elite: really? |
| [15:44:00] | Tommck: | you can paste that into the search, can't you? |
| [15:44:00] | rah: | sparky_elite: DO YOU THINK SO? |
| [15:44:00] | rah: | Tommck: yup |
| [15:44:00] | Tommck: | man, you're a jackass |
| [15:44:00] | sparky_elite: | rah, I don't know but xf86 sounds liek XFree86 |
| [15:44:00] | rah: | nope |
| [15:44:00] | rah: | sparky_elite: holy shit you're right! |
| [15:44:00] | rah: | why didn't I THINK OF THAT?! |
| [15:45:00] | rah: | my god |
| [15:45:00] | sparky_elite: | so just install the headers and try again |
| [15:45:00] | rah: | shut up, tard |
| [15:45:00] | rah: | sorry |
| [15:45:00] | rah: | but just please be quiet |
| [15:46:00] | ** Tommck thinks coming here, flooding the room and being a prick is a great approach to getting people to help you ** | |
| [15:46:00] | sparky_elite: | Tommck, and then when I plug in the RCA->Mini into the Hauppage 250 card, should it give me audio when I set mythtv to use composite 4? |
| [15:46:00] | rah: | Tommck: I'm not looking for help any more |
| [15:46:00] | Tommck: | sparky_elite – I think so |
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| [15:46:00] | rah: | Tommck: I stopped looking for help about 5 minutes after nobody responded with any advice after I pasted my error message |
| [15:46:00] | sparky_elite: | ok thanks man been a real help...I'm off to radio shack as I'm leaving for college soon and need something quick |
| [15:47:00] | ** sparky_elite is away: be back later...hopefully without more questions ** | |
| [15:47:00] | rah: | Tommck: at which point I dare say it was safe to assume nobody would be helping |
| [15:47:00] | rah: | Tommck: can you understand that? |
| [15:48:00] | sparky_elite: | rah, sometimes its good to help yourself, google usually does know all but it takes a few minutes to find it |
| [15:48:00] | sparky_elite: | rah, and I agree with Tommck that you've been acting childish, people will treat others with respect if they are treated nicely |
| [15:48:00] | rah: | sparky_elite: be quiet |
| [15:48:00] | sparky_elite: | rah, there you go again, why will anyone help you now? |
| [15:49:00] | Krazylegz: | rah: I think perhaps you made an assuption about us that is rarely true: We are not jerks, but rather eccentric. If you "follow" our "rules", someone will almost always try to help you. |
| [15:49:00] | rah: | sparky_elite: I'm not looking for your respect |
| [15:49:00] | rah: | Krazylegz: erm |
| [15:49:00] | rah: | Krazylegz: eh? |
| [15:49:00] | rah: | Krazylegz: I don't assume people here are jerks |
| [15:49:00] | sparky_elite: | rah, how come I got helped and you didn't? its in respecting those who know more |
| [15:49:00] | rah: | Krazylegz: what makes you say that? |
| [15:50:00] | rah: | sparky_elite: you found someone able to help you |
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| [15:50:00] | rah: | sparky_elite: there is nobody here capable of helping me |
| [15:50:00] | Krazylegz: | rah: Well, you said that you gave up when you posted that output. If you had asked about that first, someone would have told you to put it into pastebin where we can look at it. |
| [15:50:00] | rah: | if there were, they would have helped.. |
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| [15:50:00] | Krazylegz: | No, they won't, because you're not being very nice to us. |
| [15:51:00] | Krazylegz: | Tommock and I haven't even looked at what you pasted. |
| [15:51:00] | rah: | Krazylegz: well, either you can see the error message and know what that there's a solution, or it's a new problem to you and you can't help |
| [15:51:00] | rah: | Krazylegz: a paste bin would be useful for a discussion |
| [15:51:00] | Krazylegz: | Or I don't want to help? |
| [15:51:00] | rah: | Krazylegz: I'm not looking to spend 30 minutes discussing what the problem could possibly be |
| [15:51:00] | rah: | Krazylegz: I'm not looking to discuss the problem with anyone |
| [15:51:00] | rah: | Krazylegz: I'm looking to solve the problem |
| [15:52:00] | rah: | Krazylegz: my purpose is not to talk to people |
| [15:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, pasting in IRC generally leads to conversation and discussion. Is that not what you're looking for? |
| [15:52:00] | rah: | Krazylegz: talking with people is simply necessary to the solution of the problem |
| [15:52:00] | Krazylegz: | The MythLogBot doesn't talk back. :-) |
| [15:52:00] | rah: | Krazylegz: do you understand? |
| [15:53:00] | Krazylegz: | I disagree. You could have used Google. Instead, you're arguing with me and Tommock about how you don't want to talk to people. :-) |
| [15:53:00] | rah: | Krazylegz: pasting in #mythtv-users generally results in a lot of blind-leading-the-blind discussion |
| [15:53:00] | Krazylegz: | The irony. |
| [15:53:00] | rah: | which doesn't interest me in the slightest |
| [15:53:00] | rah: | I'm not trying to solve a problem at the moment |
| [15:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, you certainly didn't get anyone leading you today! |
| [15:53:00] | rah: | I'm trying to enlighten you |
| [15:54:00] | sparky_elite: | rah, and just respecting other people is a good life lesson, either way I'm outa here to pickup a cable |
| [15:54:00] | Krazylegz: | So, you came in here to educate us on how dumb we are? |
| [15:54:00] | rah: | O_o |
| [15:54:00] | rah: | A --------------------------------------------------------( Krazlegs )-------------------------------------------------> therefore B |
| [15:54:00] | rah: | wtf? |
| [15:54:00] | rah: | I didn't come in here to educate you |
| [15:55:00] | Krazylegz: | Perhaps you're giving me a blind-leaving-the-blind moment. |
| [15:55:00] | rah: | I chose, at this moment right now, to spend some time telling you something |
| [15:55:00] | Krazylegz: | Educate/enlighten. Whatever you want to call it. |
| [15:55:00] | Krazylegz: | Thanks for your gracious offer, but I will choose to pass. |
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| [15:56:00] | rah: | I'm not trying to enlighten your spirit |
| [15:56:00] | rah: | I'm trying to tell you something |
| [15:56:00] | rah: | so that you understand |
| [15:56:00] | Krazylegz: | You said you were trying to enlighten me. |
| [15:57:00] | rah: | yes |
| [15:57:00] | sparky_elite: | rah, why are you being such a dick? people in here are helpful and want to help but not when they are treated the way you've been treating them. IRC is for discussion, no one has the right answer immediately but asking nicely and listening may often result in an answer, even if its not a quick answer |
| [15:57:00] | rah: | enlighten you about what I'm saying |
| [15:57:00] | rah: | provide you with understanding on a sbject |
| [15:57:00] | rah: | not get your closer with go |
| [15:57:00] | Krazylegz: | So, you're trying to educate me then. |
| [15:57:00] | rah: | d |
| [15:57:00] | rah: | I'd hardly call it an education |
| [15:58:00] | Krazylegz: | That's good, because I certainly don't feel smarter yet. :-) |
| [16:01:00] | rah: | sparky_elite: I would rather have no help than help from someone who does not understand what the problem is |
| [16:02:00] | rah: | sparky_elite: "help" from someone who does not understand what the problem is usually detrimental in my experience |
| [16:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, you're getting no help. You're welcome. |
| [16:02:00] | rah: | thank you |
| [16:02:00] | ** Tommck finds it funny that there's a mythtv-related link in the first page of google results in searching for his problem, yet he still wants to stay here and be a prick ** | |
| [16:02:00] | rah: | sparky_elite: you should take not |
| [16:02:00] | rah: | note |
| [16:02:00] | rah: | Tommck: I'm not trying to compile mythtv any more |
| [16:04:00] | rah: | Tommck: just out of cusiosity, do you think that I don't know how to use google? |
| [16:05:00] | Tommck: | you apparently dont' know how to use pastebin... |
| [16:05:00] | rah: | hmm |
| [16:06:00] | rah: | you confuse my unwillingness to use a pastebin for such a small piece of text with my ignorance to their usefulness |
| [16:06:00] | rah: | err.. my non-existance ignorance |
| [16:06:00] | rah: | s/tance/tant/ |
| [16:06:00] | ** rah kicks himself ** | |
| [16:06:00] | Tommck: | you're "small" piece of text, when wrapped, took 17 lines |
| [16:07:00] | rah: | indeed |
| [16:07:00] | rah: | cf. 1000 lines of C++ |
| [16:07:00] | Tommck: | and I'm at over 120 characters per line |
| [16:08:00] | rah: | IRC is a just a method of getting text from A to B, C and D |
| [16:08:00] | Krazylegz: | rah: As you said, we didn't think that you didn't know how to google, we think that you're not motivated to do it. |
| [16:09:00] | rah: | if you find it annoying that people use the medium to communicate technical information, you have a problem |
| [16:10:00] | Filip^: | wow, some interesting communication going down here |
| [16:10:00] | rah: | Krazylegz: I didn't say that, I *asked* that |
| [16:10:00] | Krazylegz: | You haven't communicated anything. The way in which you tried to communicate it was so offensive that no one read it. Hence, there was no communication. |
| [16:10:00] | Tommck: | rah.. so? it's a general rule of thumb... because this is an open forum that things of that size are not blasted out to everyone |
| [16:10:00] | rah: | Tommck: is it? |
| [16:10:00] | Tommck: | yes, in this IRC channel, definitely |
| [16:10:00] | rah: | Tommck: I can't think of an IRC channel I'm in where a paste like that would be blinked at |
| [16:10:00] | Tommck: | when you flood the room, you interrupt every other conversation |
| [16:10:00] | rah: | perhaps it's because this is a -users channel |
| [16:10:00] | Tommck: | just ask any of the ops. |
| [16:11:00] | Tommck: | many people may not be aware of pastebin, but people who are understand that it's a courtesy not to interrupt everyone's conversation just for your problem. |
| [16:11:00] | Tommck: | other people may be working on things too. |
| [16:11:00] | Tommck: | it's just like not barging into a room and shouting over everyone else. |
| [16:11:00] | Tommck: | it's called "manners" |
| [16:12:00] | rah: | O_o |
| [16:12:00] | rah: | are you nuts? |
| [16:12:00] | rah: | this is IRC |
| [16:12:00] | Tommck: | umm.. no |
| [16:12:00] | rah: | it's capable of supporting more than one conversation at once |
| [16:12:00] | rah: | hmm |
| [16:12:00] | Tommck: | rah – not when you slam 17 lines of shit in the middle of other people's conversation |
| [16:12:00] | Tommck: | that's the point |
| [16:12:00] | rah: | are you not capable of participating in an IRC conversation when there is another one going on? |
| [16:13:00] | rah: | mmm |
| [16:13:00] | Tommck: | I am... unless some asshole pastes a whole screen worth of shit on there... then I have to scroll back to find out if I missed something important |
| [16:13:00] | Beirdo: | rah: stop being a dick |
| [16:13:00] | rah: | "Trillian"? |
| [16:13:00] | rah: | never even heard of it |
| [16:13:00] | Tommck: | rah – so??? |
| [16:14:00] | Tommck: | WTF does that have to do with anything? |
| [16:14:00] | rah: | little |
| [16:14:00] | rah: | Beirdo: tell Tommck to stop pestering me then |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [16:14:00] | rah: | Tommck: stop pestering me |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | you flooded, he complained, you got defensive and abusive |
| [16:14:00] | rah: | he keeps moaning and won't shut up |
| [16:15:00] | rah: | yes |
| [16:15:00] | ** Tommck sighs with relief at some sanity in here ** | |
| [16:15:00] | Beirdo: | so shut up and leave it alone |
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| [16:15:00] | Krazylegz: | I wasn't being sane? :-) |
| [16:15:00] | Filip^: | If anyone is interested, on http://www.lacarte.org/online/irc/mircrulz.html there is a guideline for pasting code that says: "Generally, you will not have much luck if you paste more than 5–10 words of code to the channel. People are usually not much interested in puzzling out more than that amount in this environment. " |
| [16:16:00] | Tommck: | Krazylegz – yeah, you were |
| [16:16:00] | rah: | Krazylegz: no, you were being silly |
| [16:16:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh. Well, that gives me something to consider. |
| [16:16:00] | Tommck: | *gasp* you mean other people actually have manners too? :) |
| [16:17:00] | Tommck: | thanks for the info Filip^ |
| [16:17:00] | rah: | Filip^: what I pasted was 5 lines |
| [16:17:00] | Krazylegz: | There's like, IRC rules and guidelines. Who would have thought? |
| [16:17:00] | Tommck: | 5-=>17 |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | which is about 5 lines too many |
| [16:17:00] | Krazylegz: | That guideline doesn't say anything about lines. |
| [16:17:00] | rah: | 1 line of code != 1 ascii 10 |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | for large pastes use a damn pastebin |
| [16:17:00] | ** Tommck somehow thinks that the "lines" was not meaning how many carriage returns are in the text ** | |
| [16:18:00] | rah: | Beirdo: I do |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | you didn't |
| [16:18:00] | Filip^: | EFNETs netiqette speaks of 2–3 lines in http://rafb.net/efnet_cpp/rules/#nopaste |
| [16:18:00] | rah: | it wasn't a large paste |
| [16:18:00] | rah: | it was 5 lines |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | now stop arguing, and let the channel get back to some peace |
| [16:18:00] | Tommck: | lol |
| [16:18:00] | Tommck: | it wasn't a large paste... just 17 lines of wrapped text... no big deal |
| [16:18:00] | Krazylegz: | Careful, or Beirdo will MAKE peace, by making us all go outside for 4 hours. :-) |
| [16:19:00] | ** rah boggles ** | |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, go play boggle, it will do you some good |
| [16:20:00] | rah: | I have to ask, what the hell are all you people doing using linux, "chatting" on freenode? |
| [16:20:00] | rah: | use windows or something for goodness' sake |
| [16:20:00] | ChanServ sets mode +o Beirdo | |
| [16:20:00] | Tommck: | thank you |
| [16:20:00] | ** Tommck hands Beirdo a beer :) ** | |
| [16:20:00] | Beirdo sets mode +b rah!*@* | |
| [16:20:00] | Tommck: | man, that guy was a dumbass |
| [16:21:00] | rah was kicked from #mythtv-users by Beirdo | |
| [16:21:00] | Krazylegz: | Wow, that's the first ban I've witnessed in this channel. |
| [16:21:00] | kevin_: | haha |
| [16:21:00] | Filip^: | well, a mistake like that is easily made, but how you respond to remarks is what counts |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [16:21:00] | Krazylegz: | Filip: Exactly. |
| [16:21:00] | Tommck: | ahhhhh... nothing like a good banning to get your spirits up :) |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo sets mode -o Beirdo | |
| [16:21:00] | Tommck: | it's like hangings in the old days |
| [16:21:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, I see now. Maybe he didn't know you were an op? |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | heh, well too bad for him :) |
| [16:22:00] | Krazylegz: | Not that he would be nicer to an op, since he didn't seem to think he was being rude. |
| [16:22:00] | Tommck: | Krazylegz – that's why you be nice to everyone :) |
| [16:22:00] | Krazylegz: | That's true. You never know. |
| [16:22:00] | Krazylegz: | That applies to life though, not just IRC. |
| [16:23:00] | Tommck: | true |
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| [16:23:00] | Krazylegz: | Wouldn't it be funny if he was looking at the log to see if we were talking about him? He can't fight back now. :-) |
| [16:23:00] | Tommck: | Beirdo – thanks again... I could have just ignored him, but he was not going to get the point until he got smacked |
| [16:24:00] | Beirdo: | so it seems |
| [16:24:00] | Tommck: | as soon as I saw the "+o" notification, I started smiling :) |
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| [16:26:00] | Tommck: | I couldn't believe he kept saying "it was only 5 lines" :) |
| [16:26:00] | Tommck: | so, Beirdo how are you today, anyway? |
| [16:27:00] | Krazylegz: | It was 7 carriage returns. |
| [16:27:00] | Tommck: | OT: anyone know of some reliable dual layer DVD media that's not crazy expensive? |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | tired and pissed off |
| [16:27:00] | Tommck: | and really long lines |
| [16:27:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, sorry. I didn't say anything about that "moment"! |
| [16:28:00] | Tommck: | Beirdo – pissed off because of rah? or something else? |
| [16:28:00] | Beirdo: | nah, something else |
| [16:28:00] | Beirdo: | not to worry |
| [16:28:00] | Tommck: | sorry to hear that |
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| [16:31:00] | Tommck: | I'm using nuvexport so that I can burn DVDs. When I dump an episode of a show that was recorded from my pvr-500, it looks like ass with the defaults. Should I just crank up the allowed bitrate? |
| [16:31:00] | Tommck: | (looks like ass when played by xine, that is |
| [16:31:00] | Tommck: | quality is really low... a 2.1GB nuv file becomes a < 500MB mpg |
| [16:32:00] | Tommck: | if I just do an mpeg2cut, I get lots of audio issues in the output of dvdauthor ("audio sector out of range" warnings, etc) |
| [16:33:00] | sparky_elite: | did rah leave? |
| [16:33:00] | Tommck: | sparky_elite – he was booted... and banned |
| [16:33:00] | Tommck: | three cheers for Beirdo |
| [16:33:00] | sparky_elite: | heh what a dick |
| [16:34:00] | sparky_elite: | Tommck, thanks the converter worked |
| [16:34:00] | Tommck: | cool |
| [16:34:00] | sparky_elite: | now I can record with audio : ) |
| [16:34:00] | Tommck: | yay |
| [16:34:00] | sparky_elite: | makes the family happy...then I just have to figure out how to burn to DVD |
| [16:38:00] | sparky_elite: | Tommck, next problem...its recording a huge file...like a meg a second |
| [16:39:00] | sparky_elite: | i'm using cat /dev/video1 > out.avi |
| [16:39:00] | Tommck: | sparky_elite – nice :) |
| [16:39:00] | Tommck: | I'm not sure what to do there.. I haven't tried that before |
| [16:40:00] | sparky_elite: | should I use mythtv where I can specify the ouput bitrate? |
| [16:40:00] | sparky_elite: | i've only used myth for cable never for RCA in |
| [16:44:00] | Tommck: | can someone tell me what the difference is between changing the maximum video bitrate and the VBR quality/quantisation settings in nuvexport are? |
| [16:45:00] | Tommck: | wait.. sparky_elite – you said it's a meg a second? |
| [16:45:00] | Tommck: | so an hour will be 3.6 GB? |
| [16:45:00] | Tommck: | (approximately) |
| [16:46:00] | Tommck: | no... 360MB |
| [16:46:00] | Tommck: | crap...w as right the first time |
| [16:46:00] | Tommck: | that's pretty high. |
| [16:46:00] | Tommck: | what will probably work is using ivtv_ctl to set the resolution on your input device |
| [16:46:00] | Tommck: | you'll have to dig around in help to figure it out |
| [16:48:00] | sparky_elite: | or should I just run transcode over it? |
| [16:48:00] | sparky_elite: | hmm my connection has been quite spotty as of late |
| [16:48:00] | Tommck: | you could do that too.. but it'll be a lot faster to just set the input params |
| [16:49:00] | sparky_elite: | yea i'll play around with it |
| [16:49:00] | sparky_elite: | could I just run mencoder or transcode over it at the end? |
| [16:49:00] | Tommck: | I believe so. |
| [16:49:00] | sparky_elite: | or will the output from that not be DVD compatible? |
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| [16:49:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v stoffel | |
| [16:49:00] | Tommck: | I'm not sure, frankly |
| [16:50:00] | sparky_elite: | heh okily dokily I guess I'll just experiment |
| [16:50:00] | Tommck: | cool |
| [16:55:00] | ** Tommck gotta go... late for something... bye ** | |
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| [17:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | man I missed the fight :( |
| [17:16:00] | Cromz: | ok.. so one more wireless system to make sure it's working then take the 15" off it to put on this system.. so I'll have 3 on this one. haha |
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| [17:28:00] | fiveiron2_: | how am i supposed to get mythtv to auto grab my channel listing? |
| [17:30:00] | sparky_elite: | fiveiron2_, you in america? |
| [17:30:00] | sparky_elite: | gotta sign up for a zap2it account |
| [17:31:00] | sparky_elite: | fiveiron2_, http://labs.zap2it.com/ztvws/ztvws_login/1,1059,TMS01-1,00.html |
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| [17:49:00] | jasoncohen: | i'm getting a blue border on the left and top sides of my TV when i play shows in mythfrontend with an nvidia fx5200 tv-out (s-video) |
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| [17:55:00] | jasoncohen: | xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 0 didn't seem to work yesterday but i was able to do it today using x11vnc |
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| [18:01:00] | jasoncohen: | sweet, that fixed the problem |
| [18:03:00] | jasoncohen: | the tv-out is a lot better on the nvidia too. the overscan feature allows me to completely fill my screen easily and the picture is clearer |
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| [18:06:00] | sparky_elite: | hey I gotz a question, I have a VCR whihc can do both PAL and NTSC |
| [18:06:00] | sparky_elite: | and I want to record it to the harddrive with a hauppage card which has RCA input |
| [18:06:00] | sparky_elite: | how would I go about that, by default its NTSC i tried using ptune-ui and setting it but could only get static |
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| [18:09:00] | sparky_elite: | setting it to PAL* |
| [18:12:00] | ldam: | sparky_elite, you should match your vcr to the same type of output as the hauppauge, afaik hauppage cards comes with either pal or ntsc, not both. |
| [18:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | actually some are configurable |
| [18:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I specifically configure mine to be ntsc, but it could be changed to pal |
| [18:18:00] | sparky_elite: | GreyFoxx....hmmm i tried it with ptune-ui but didn't really have success |
| [18:18:00] | sparky_elite: | but then again...what do I know : ) |
| [18:19:00] | sparky_elite: | ldam, is the VCR outputting in PAL when its a pal tape and NTSC when its an american tape? |
| [18:19:00] | ldam: | sparky_elite, i have absolutely no idea. Depends onyour vcr. Check your manual |
| [18:19:00] | sparky_elite: | its from 1990...don't know if we still have it ; ) |
| [18:20:00] | sparky_elite: | i guess I'll see what google says about it |
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| [18:21:00] | kevin_: | jasoncohen how'd you get tv-out working? |
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| [18:24:00] | jasoncohen: | do i have to run "xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 0" every time i start up? |
| [18:25:00] | jasoncohen: | i tried adding it to my mythtvfrontend startup script in KDE but it didn't work |
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| [18:25:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys |
| [18:25:00] | sparky_elite: | howdy abarbaccia |
| [18:26:00] | abarbaccia: | question – do you think its better to go with an AMD or Intel board? |
| [18:26:00] | sparky_elite: | AMD |
| [18:26:00] | sparky_elite: | just my personal preference |
| [18:26:00] | abarbaccia: | alright – and what chipset on the mainboard? |
| [18:26:00] | sparky_elite: | ummm I like amd64...but don't know if the drivers for your tvtuner card work on AMD64 yes |
| [18:26:00] | sparky_elite: | yet* |
| [18:27:00] | abarbaccia: | well im takling about chipsets on the motherboard – not processor classes |
| [18:27:00] | abarbaccia: | like an nforce chipset |
| [18:27:00] | abarbaccia: | or a sis chipset |
| [18:28:00] | abarbaccia: | or an intel chipset |
| [18:28:00] | sparky_elite: | oh, sis is generally well supported under linux I think |
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| [18:28:00] | sparky_elite: | atleast all the sis in my laptop are working |
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| [18:30:00] | holmes: | hi, can anybody provide some help |
| [18:31:00] | holmes: | i think i have a small problem |
| [18:31:00] | holmes: | but i'm not too entirely sure |
| [18:31:00] | holmes: | i got my tuner card all setup and working as i can watch tv on /dev/video0 |
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| [18:31:00] | jasoncohen: | is there a way to permenantly set the xv colorkey? |
| [18:31:00] | holmes: | and then mythbackend seems to start just fine |
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| [18:32:00] | holmes: | but mythfrontend complains like so ... |
| [18:32:00] | holmes: | 2005-08–20 09:30:01.739 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [18:32:00] | holmes: | 2005-08–20 09:30:01.739 write->12 21 MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 15: |
| [18:32:00] | holmes: | 2005-08–20 09:30:21.741 ReadStringList timeout (quick). |
| [18:32:00] | holmes: | 2005-08–20 09:30:21.741 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: |
| [18:32:00] | holmes: | apparently it thinks the versions aren't the same |
| [18:32:00] | holmes: | but they are |
| [18:32:00] | holmes: | 2005-08–20 09:13:56.952 mythfrontend version: 0.18.1.20050510–1 www.mythtv.org |
| [18:32:00] | holmes: | 2005-08–20 09:13:41.115 mythbackend version: 0.18.1.20050510–1 www.mythtv.org |
| [18:33:00] | stoffel: | nope. it means the backend is somehow confused. try restarting it |
| [18:33:00] | sparky_elite: | /etc/init.d/mythbackend restart usually |
| [18:33:00] | fiveiron2_: | does the ati tv wonder work with mythtv? |
| [18:33:00] | abarbaccia: | fiveiron2_, i don't think so – generally stay away from ati with linux |
| [18:34:00] | fiveiron2_: | bleh |
| [18:34:00] | holmes: | still getting it |
| [18:34:00] | holmes: | this is a brand new install |
| [18:35:00] | holmes: | on gentoo |
| [18:35:00] | holmes: | if it'll help you think of anything |
| [18:35:00] | sparky_elite: | fiveiron2_, i reocmmend hauppage cards |
| [18:36:00] | sparky_elite: | holmes, you didn't happen to upgrade from an earlier version? |
| [18:37:00] | holmes: | nope |
| [18:37:00] | holmes: | just emerged for the first time last night |
| [18:37:00] | holmes: | when i go to information center on the frontend i get these log messages ... |
| [18:37:00] | holmes: | 2005-08–20 09:37:36.693 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [18:37:00] | holmes: | 2005-08–20 09:37:36.694 write->12 21 MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 15: |
| [18:37:00] | holmes: | 2005-08–20 09:37:56.694 ReadStringList timeout (quick). |
| [18:37:00] | holmes: | 2005-08–20 09:37:56.694 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: |
| [18:37:00] | holmes: | 2005-08–20 09:37:56.694 QUERY_IS_ACTIVE_BACKEND=QUERY_IS_ACTIVE_BACKEND |
| [18:38:00] | fiveiron2_: | ok.. what is the xmltv command for us channels? |
| [18:39:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys -what nvidia video card should i buy (chipset) |
| [18:39:00] | fiveiron2_: | i see tv_grab_<everything but us> |
| [18:39:00] | sparky_elite: | fiveiron2_, you need to sign up with zap2it |
| [18:39:00] | sparky_elite: | create an account |
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| [18:39:00] | sparky_elite: | and add your local listings to their site, then add it in mythtv-setup |
| [18:41:00] | abarbaccia: | does anybody here output to an HDTV? and how do you go about it? |
| [18:41:00] | holmes: | does the backend server log stuff when you go to the settings, because it isn't for me |
| [18:41:00] | holmes: | and the frontend is retardedly slow going through the 4 or 5 options |
| [18:41:00] | fiveiron2_: | sparky_elite, create an account? all i see is a place to put in my zip... |
| [18:42:00] | holmes: | i'm curious if maybe i have a database connection issue |
| [18:42:00] | sparky_elite: | fiveiron2_, http://labs.zap2it.com/ztvws/ztvws_login/1,1059,TMS01-1,00.html |
| [18:42:00] | sparky_elite: | holmes, can you use mythweb? |
| [18:42:00] | holmes: | i used mythweather and it worked |
| [18:42:00] | fiveiron2_: | ah gracias |
| [18:42:00] | holmes: | mythweb brought up a blank page |
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| [18:43:00] | sparky_elite: | it should fail if the prototype versions are mismatched |
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| [18:45:00] | holmes: | it shows uptime for the frontend, but the backend says unknown |
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| [18:45:00] | fiveiron2_: | uh |
| [18:46:00] | fiveiron2_: | how do i get a certificate code? |
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| [18:47:00] | sparky_elite: | fiveiron2_, ZIYN-DQZO-SBUT |
| [18:48:00] | sparky_elite: | fiveiron2_, http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3 |
| [18:48:00] | fiveiron2_: | ah |
| [18:48:00] | fiveiron2_: | thx |
| [18:48:00] | sparky_elite: | most welcome |
| [18:51:00] | fiveiron2_: | ok... now that doc doesnt explain how to get the listings into mythtv... it just says it will be automatically done |
| [18:52:00] | fiveiron2_: | but i've already run mythtv-setup |
| [18:52:00] | fiveiron2_: | and nothing's in there |
| [18:53:00] | Chutt: | mythtv-setup tells you what to do |
| [18:55:00] | Chutt: | and the docs certainly do tell you exactly what to do |
| [18:55:00] | Chutt: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.2 |
| [18:55:00] | holmes: | where do the web-sites and weather and news stuff get saved, locally or on the server? |
| [18:56:00] | sparky_elite: | fiveiron2_, did you add you username and password to mythtv-setup? |
| [18:56:00] | abarbaccia: | do you need SATA for running HDTV? |
| [18:56:00] | sparky_elite: | holmes, its all saved in mysql |
| [18:57:00] | holmes: | well it's saving something then |
| [18:57:00] | holmes: | i feel so close |
| [18:57:00] | holmes: | yet so far |
| [18:58:00] | sparky_elite: | don't we all |
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| [19:17:00] | CCFL_Man: | anyone use mythtv on their xbox? |
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| [20:41:00] | dampjam: | anybody know how to get the mythtv plugins to compile on an x64? |
| [20:42:00] | ** bah1Quoo bangs his head against the wall ** | |
| [20:42:00] | bah1Quoo: | Maybe rebooting the old kernel will fix it. |
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| [20:48:00] | Randall64: | I'm not getting any audio devices in the Capture Card Setup screen. |
| [20:48:00] | Randall64: | alsamixer verifies that the modules are loaded, any ideas? |
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| [20:50:00] | zuralin: | Randall64, alsaconf ? |
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| [20:53:00] | Randall64: | I'm still just getting (None) after running alsaconf and hotplug to reload the btaudio module. |
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| [20:56:00] | Randall64: | I had to manually load the oss modules. |
| [20:56:00] | Randall64: | I guess I'll just add all the modules I need to /etc/modules. |
| [21:01:00] | jonK: | question... how can I delete all rows from recorded for shows prior to a specific date .. e.g., delete from recorded where starttime = XXX, I'm not sure what to put in for the XXX |
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| [21:11:00] | topping: | hi folks... any mac developers on? i need some advice about whether myth FE is going to be happier on PPC Linux or MacOS |
| [21:11:00] | topping: | i'm running CVS head for FE on Mac, and it's too buggy to leave for a non-developer |
| [21:12:00] | topping: | (aka, a friend who now has a system that I installed for him) |
| [21:13:00] | topping: | so I either need to replace the Mac with an intel box, fix the mac port (no time), or install PPC Linux, just don't know if that would work |
| [21:16:00] | Randall64: | topping: It's been plagued by endian issues (I never got it working properly under linux) |
| [21:16:00] | Randall64: | the OS X front-end is decent, but doesn't have all the plugin |
| [21:16:00] | Randall64: | s |
| [21:17:00] | Randall64: | topping: What does CVS do for you? |
| [21:17:00] | topping: | cvs *seems* easier to compile but less stable |
| [21:18:00] | topping: | erm |
| [21:18:00] | topping: | *is* easier to compile, but *seems* less stable |
| [21:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | I assume you are actually using svn and not cvs ?:P) |
| [21:18:00] | Randall64: | The last OS X client I had working was 0.17. |
| [21:18:00] | topping: | yah dat |
| [21:18:00] | topping: | and many of the plugins are missing |
| [21:18:00] | Randall64: | topping: Are you using that script? |
| [21:18:00] | topping: | yes, with the -nocvs option and the svn sources behind it |
| [21:19:00] | topping: | it works with 0.18.1 as well as SVN HEAD |
| [21:19:00] | Randall64: | ahh, there's an 0.18.1 build finally |
| [21:21:00] | topping: | you need to delete a config.pro in an empty directory that is somewhere in the SVN tree (can't remember where), but it works |
| [21:21:00] | topping: | (otherwise empty directory...) |
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| [21:22:00] | Randall64: | hah, this binary md5sum doesn't match |
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| [21:47:00] | jonK: | anyone familiar with the tables of mythconverg? |
| [21:48:00] | xris: | some of them |
| [21:48:00] | jonK: | i need to drop rows for shows recorded prior to a certain date |
| [21:48:00] | jonK: | (lost the files) |
| [21:49:00] | jonK: | I think the sql should be: delete from recorded where starttime <= (something) |
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| [21:49:00] | jonK: | and the same for oldrecorded, but need the "something" |
| [21:50:00] | riddlebox: | delete * from recorded where startime whatevertime I would assume |
| [21:50:00] | jonK: | dont need the "*" |
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| [21:52:00] | xris: | riddlebox: * is optional (and imho should be left off) |
| [21:52:00] | xris: | jonK: mysql dates are formatted 'YYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS' |
| [21:52:00] | xris: | can leave off the time if you want |
| [21:52:00] | xris: | make that YYYY |
| [21:53:00] | jonK: | so the starttime column holds a "date" datatype, not just a string? |
| [21:53:00] | jonK: | and can use a "<=" operator? |
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| [21:54:00] | xris: | jonK: DESCRIBE table_name; |
| [21:54:00] | jonK: | gracias |
| [21:55:00] | xris: | just remember that stuff in oldrecorded is there for dupliucate checking, so if you have ANY duplicate policies, you'll end up rerecording that stuff. |
| [21:55:00] | jonK: | type == datetime |
| [21:55:00] | jonK: | I'm trying to recover from a group of lost mythfiles |
| [21:55:00] | jonK: | need to clean references to the lost files out of mythconverg |
| [21:56:00] | jonK: | any other tables i should touch (recorded and oldrecorded) |
| [21:56:00] | xris: | oldrecorded has nothing to do with recording files |
| [21:56:00] | xris: | only recorded and recordedmarkup (comm flags) |
| [21:56:00] | jonK: | yes, but if I've lost the file and want it to recorded again |
| [21:57:00] | xris: | just saying that you might want to put a "min" cap on the oldrecorded stuff, unless you want to rerecord ALL of that stuff, not jus the stuff you lost and want to see again. |
| [21:58:00] | jonK: | I'd rather just rerecord and delete. Mostly stuff in syndication, and just looping through episodes |
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| [21:58:00] | xris: | ah |
| [21:59:00] | xris: | (it's easy enough to SELECT MIN(starttime) FROM recorded) |
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| [22:00:00] | jonK: | ok.. just dropped 145 rows |
| [22:01:00] | xris: | if you have commercials cut already, it's usually easier to just 'DELETE FROM recordedmarkup' |
| [22:02:00] | xris: | actually, imho, just easier to do that and then rerun mythcommflag, anyway. |
| [22:03:00] | jonK: | looks like that did it for all but three rows |
| [22:03:00] | jonK: | still have three programs showing in mythweb |
| [22:03:00] | jonK: | that dont exist, i can just delete these with mythweb |
| [22:04:00] | jonK: | sad, all those episodes of the venture brothers — poof |
| [22:04:00] | jonK: | 272 rows from oldrecorded |
| [22:05:00] | jonK: | now, what do i need to worry about for recordedmarkup |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | just wipe the whole table. |
| [22:06:00] | jonK: | wow.... maybe select * from recorded markup was a poor choice |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | and run mythcommflag |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | that's why you just want delete * |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | usually like 5k rows PER SHOW in that table |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | hit control-c |
| [22:07:00] | jonK: | why, I have no reason not to let it complete |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | becuase for my 36 recordings, there are 228085 rows |
| [22:07:00] | jonK: | or did you really mean 5k rows per show... |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | it could take a LONG time |
| [22:08:00] | jonK: | clearly.... |
| [22:08:00] | jonK: | how to get a rowcount for a table? |
| [22:08:00] | xris: | select count(some-column) from table-name |
| [22:08:00] | xris: | select count(chanid) from recordedmarkup; |
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| [22:09:00] | xris: | anyway, you could use starttime like you did with the rest. |
| [22:09:00] | xris: | but it takes a long time. imho easier just to wipe and recreate |
| [22:09:00] | jonK: | 1012279 rows |
| [22:09:00] | jonK: | may take just as long to recreate... |
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| [22:10:00] | jonK: | but i'll try, mythcomflag, command line? any parameters? |
| [22:10:00] | xris: | possibly. my feelings stem from times when mythcommflag wasn't as reliable as itis now, too... |
| [22:10:00] | xris: | no parameters. |
| [22:10:00] | xris: | just put it into a screen |
| [22:10:00] | jonK: | screen? |
| [22:10:00] | xris: | disconnect, and come back an hour later |
| [22:10:00] | xris: | you don't know screen? |
| [22:10:00] | xris: | screen is handy. |
| [22:11:00] | xris: | run `screen` |
| [22:11:00] | xris: | you'll get a new shell |
| [22:11:00] | jonK: | even over ssh connection? |
| [22:11:00] | jonK: | so i do |
| [22:11:00] | xris: | that you can disconnect from (control-a, d) |
| [22:12:00] | xris: | it's designed for ssh, so you can log in, start a slow process, disconnect, then come back later via another ssh session, etc. |
| [22:12:00] | jonK: | nice, I've always just created another ssh session when I've needed multiple shells |
| [22:12:00] | jonK: | how do i get back to the session |
| [22:12:00] | xris: | screen is more than just another shell, though... you can disconnect, have multiple people connect |
| [22:12:00] | xris: | screen -r |
| [22:12:00] | jonK: | like ctl-z and fg |
| [22:12:00] | jonK: | but no pausing |
| [22:12:00] | xris: | you can start them with names, like `screen -S commflag` |
| [22:12:00] | xris: | then screen -r commflag |
| [22:12:00] | xris: | no, not like control-z |
| [22:13:00] | xris: | control-z still has the output attached to your terminal, so if you log out, it stops the program |
| [22:13:00] | jonK: | right, it doesn't suspend |
| [22:13:00] | jonK: | and that |
| [22:13:00] | jonK: | cool |
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| [22:13:00] | xris: | screen can also split views, so it's like a text-based tabbed console, and a ton of other stuff. |
| [22:13:00] | jonK: | sweet |
| [22:13:00] | xris: | can theoretically allow multiple people to look at and interact with the same view, etc. |
| [22:13:00] | jonK: | surprised I've not come across it before |
| [22:14:00] | XAD|onoff: | jonK, it's also when you have a "server program" that needs a console... |
| [22:15:00] | jonK: | used the row delete, only took 57 seconds |
| [22:15:00] | jonK: | 770366 rows affected |
| [22:16:00] | xris: | you'll want: optimize table recordedmarkup |
| [22:16:00] | xris: | actually, just grab this and set it up in cron: http://forevermore.net/files/mythtv_misc/optimize_mythdb.pl.txt |
| [22:16:00] | xris: | hmm, maybe I'll put that into contrib |
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| [22:22:00] | jonK: | what's in oldprogram |
| [22:22:00] | xris: | no clue |
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| [22:22:00] | jonK: | running the script now |
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| [22:27:00] | xris: | I put it into contrib, for future reference.... |
| [22:28:00] | xris: | myth's busy tables, especially recordedmarkup, tend to waste a lot of space. |
| [22:28:00] | xris: | first time I ran that, it saved me like 50M |
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| [22:33:00] | jonK: | strange, 3 rows remain |
| [22:33:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Anyone have a Hauppauge Win-TV Nova-2 USB2? |
| [22:34:00] | jonK: | selecting * from recorded where starttime = date returns 0 rows, but selecting the three shows by title returns a row with the date |
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| [22:34:00] | xris: | Dr_Barnowl: don't think those work with linux |
| [22:35:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Oh, it works |
| [22:35:00] | xris: | jonK: remember, datetime? |
| [22:35:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | You need a fairly recent kernel though |
| [22:35:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | It's been working for a few months for me, but now this Signal Monitor patch seems to have broken it. |
| [22:36:00] | jonK: | what am i missing? |
| [22:36:00] | xris: | jonK: dunno |
| [22:36:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Maybe the value is not the exact value of today? |
| [22:36:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | And the format is just not including the time? Dunno either |
| [22:37:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | try where starttime BETWEEN date and date +1 |
| [22:37:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | If BETWEEN is supported by MySQL, that is |
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| [22:38:00] | jonK: | and, they didn't delete when I used the mythweb delete link |
| [22:39:00] | xris: | jonK: odd |
| [22:39:00] | jonK: | delete from recorded where starttime = '2005-08–13'; |
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| [22:39:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Have you tried running mysqlrepair? |
| [22:39:00] | xris: | jonK: dateTIME, not date |
| [22:40:00] | jonK: | ? |
| [22:40:00] | xris: | starttime is datetime, not date. |
| [22:40:00] | xris: | you need a time, too |
| [22:40:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Yeah, that's kinda what I was saying, that query will only catch things that start exactly at midnight |
| [22:40:00] | jonK: | then why did it delete all the other rows? |
| [22:40:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | THey all started at midnight ?>???? |
| [22:40:00] | xris: | jonK: because you were using <= |
| [22:40:00] | jonK: | the above commanded deleted 177 rows |
| [22:41:00] | jonK: | oh... I dropped all the rows for aug 12, 11,10 ... |
| [22:41:00] | Randall64: | man, this script builds everything |
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| [22:42:00] | Randall64: | Qt, mysql, lame, mythtv ... |
| [22:42:00] | xris: | Randall64: ? |
| [22:43:00] | Randall64: | xris: osx-packager |
| [22:44:00] | xris: | ahh |
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| [22:51:00] | jonK: | thanks xris |
| [22:55:00] | xris: | :) |
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| [23:14:00] | Randall64: | of course it failed |
| [23:14:00] | ** Randall64 modifies script ** | |
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| [23:22:00] | dmz: | howdy y'all. quick question. tv/dvd/recordings all work great full screen, but i can't seem to get the normal mythtv menus to display on the full screen. any suggestions? |
| [23:22:00] | dmz: | i'm using a pvr350 video out |
| [23:22:00] | ** riddlebox wishes he could burn his shows ** | |
| [23:24:00] | Randall64: | Did you check the pvr-350 box in the setup? |
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| [23:28:00] | dmz: | ye |
| [23:28:00] | dmz: | yes |
| [23:28:00] | dmz: | output works |
| [23:28:00] | dmz: | just doesn't fit on the screen |
| [23:29:00] | dmz: | except for tv/movies/etc, those appear to fit ok |
| [23:29:00] | jonK: | it is too big for the screen? |
| [23:29:00] | dmz: | yeah |
| [23:29:00] | dmz: | the menus only |
| [23:29:00] | jonK: | overscan, you're probably getting it on the shows as well, just not as big an issue |
| [23:32:00] | dmz: | so what does that mean? |
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| [23:34:00] | jonK: | it means you use the mythsetup screens to adjust overscan percentage and GUI size |
| [23:34:00] | dmz: | would i use a negative % then to shrink it? |
| [23:42:00] | dmz: | ok another question...i just put in a new disk and moved all my data to it (and made the new disk the same as my old mountpoint, so paths are the same). now the mythbackend can't connect to the database but I can manually. any suggestions here? |
| [23:50:00] | dmz: | hmmm. it is start-stop-daemon...if i su – mythtv and start manually it works...wierd |
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