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| [00:15:00] | GeckoFiend: | directhex most machines have a bios setting that makes it so you have to hold down the power button for 5 seconds before it'll shut down |
| [00:16:00] | directhex: | GeckoFiend, killing an active machine? that's even worse :/ |
| [00:16:00] | directhex: | i think i've found where to force this into myth |
| [00:16:00] | GeckoFiend: | directhex you said " too easy to slip on the power button" |
| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | GeckoFiend, he means on the remote control iirc |
| [00:17:00] | GeckoFiend: | ahhh |
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| [00:26:00] | directhex: | okay, (i think) themedmenu.cpp now allows a single-press shutdown button |
| [00:26:00] | mishehu: | has anybody with a pvr250 had any weird IRQ issues such as these? --> ivtv: ENC IRQ OVERFLOW: #3205 Stealing a Buffer, 2048 currently allocated |
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| [00:27:00] | pmowry: | I did many months ago......trying to remember why. are you using a 0.2.0rc3 version of ivtv? |
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| [00:30:00] | pmowry: | It's been to long, I cant remember it a new driver version or moving to a different slot fixed it. |
| [00:33:00] | mishehu: | pmowry: sec, I konw it's a 0.2.x series |
| [00:34:00] | mishehu: | ivtv-0.2.0-rc3k |
| [00:34:00] | mishehu: | it was working fine on the 0.2.0rc3 series until recently. |
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| [00:37:00] | mishehu: | the docs I find on google for it all pertain to ppl who have cards in PAL mode and want to use it with NTSC. my card is in NTSC mode to begin with. |
| [00:39:00] | Cardoe: | what's happening GeckoFiend |
| [00:40:00] | GeckoFiend: | nada |
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| [00:42:00] | Cardoe: | if I can wake up.. |
| [00:42:00] | Cardoe: | I'm gonna finish these patches |
| [00:42:00] | Cardoe: | hey Chutt |
| [00:42:00] | Cardoe: | didn't see you slip in |
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| [00:42:00] | pmowry: | mishehu: how is your disk space on your ringbuffer or storage drive? |
| [00:42:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: Ticket #215, DB stuff like that is what I was talking about |
| [00:42:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: But I'm going to go over that guys code a little bit. |
| [00:45:00] | pmowry: | low disk space is what triggered those errors for me. (scrolling by fast, not just occasionally) |
| [00:45:00] | mishehu: | pmowry: at the moment, rather full |
| [00:46:00] | mishehu: | I need to clear out some crap, only like 200mb free at teh moment. |
| [00:46:00] | Beirdo: | that's likely the issue, dude |
| [00:47:00] | jonK: | I have a question... |
| [00:48:00] | jonK: | today, all of my scheduled recordings were set to a manual override of "do not record" |
| [00:48:00] | jonK: | and when I reset to normal, the setting indicates that the |
| [00:49:00] | jonK: | episode has previously been recorded according to the duplicate... |
| [00:49:00] | jonK: | even for things that have never aired |
| [00:49:00] | jonK: | anyone have any ideas what might have happened? |
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| [00:53:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: alright, well then, priority to dump some crap |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
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| [00:53:00] | mishehu: | it'd be nice if I could just transcode it all quickly, but I can't get transcode to build on x86_64 |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | some filesystems don't like being nearly full either |
| [00:53:00] | Mrgoose: | man snmp is gay |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | xfs at 99% gets bitchy |
| [00:54:00] | Mrgoose: | ERROR: not a simple integer: ' 306315893' |
| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | Mrgoose, it's not gay, it's festive |
| [00:54:00] | Mrgoose: | i get that error whenever i run the snmp command |
| [00:54:00] | mishehu: | it's just light in the loafers |
| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | then you messed up |
| [00:54:00] | Mrgoose: | i entered it correct |
| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | you fed it ascii characters |
| [00:56:00] | Kronuz: | hey, who has experience with shell scripts? |
| [00:56:00] | Kronuz: | I need a bit of help |
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| [00:58:00] | Mrgoose: | Beirdo: i didn't feed it anything |
| [01:00:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [01:00:00] | Beirdo: | well, it's never done that to me |
| [01:01:00] | Mrgoose: | hmm |
| [01:02:00] | pmowry: | Mrgoose, I may have come in late. What are you trying to poll with snmp? or are you trying tp set someting? |
| [01:03:00] | Mrgoose: | tryin to set up snmp to run with cacti |
| [01:03:00] | Mrgoose: | /var/www/htdocs/cacti# /usr/local/rrdtool/bin/rrdtool create /var/www/htdocs/cacti/rra/localhost_snmp_oid_12.rrd |
| [01:03:00] | Mrgoose: | thats the line cacti tries to run |
| [01:03:00] | Mrgoose: | when i run that i get |
| [01:03:00] | Mrgoose: | ERROR: you must define at least one Round Robin Archive |
| [01:03:00] | harryman100: | Hi, I've compiled mythtv, but when I run mythtv-setup, "QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded, QSqlDatabase: available drivers:", I have recompiled QT with mysql support, and installed it, but this makes no difference, I still get the error... can anyone suggest what may be wrong? |
| [01:04:00] | pmowry: | harryman100: did you recompile mythtv after qt-MySQL was available? |
| [01:05:00] | pmowry: | also what version? Not sure if 3.1 is supported any more. |
| [01:05:00] | harryman100: | pmowry: yes, I think so, although to be honest I've tried so many different things I can't remember |
| [01:05:00] | harryman100: | QT4 and MySQL4.1 |
| [01:06:00] | Mrgoose: | pmowry: you know anything about setting up snmp |
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| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | this isn't #cacti or #net-snmp, you realize :) |
| [01:08:00] | pmowry: | There was a discussion about QT4 when it came out, mostly it revolved around a windows ports was still not supported until QT4 is around for a while and proven stable. I think the discussion went along the lines of qt4 not being actively supported at all. Check the dev mailing list archives. |
| [01:09:00] | harryman100: | pmowry: could the problem be because I couldn't compile mythtv with gcc4, so I used 3.3.5, but I compiled QT with gcc4? |
| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | quite likely |
| [01:10:00] | pmowry: | I would not know. Last I tried though mythtv itself compiled under gcc 4.0 just fine. mythtv-plugins had a few problems. |
| [01:11:00] | pmowry: | mythtv from CVS that is. |
| [01:11:00] | harryman100: | ok, I'll try a CVS version, cheers |
| [01:11:00] | pmowry: | or I guess SVN now |
| [01:13:00] | pmowry: | I'd still take a look at the dev archives for QT4 discussions. Just to see if it's better to downgrade to 3.3 or you will be the test case for 4.0 ;) |
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| [01:16:00] | XAD|onoff: | ahhhhhhh, ivtv has an error in the radio detection logic... they have used the wrong index so tveeprom will always report radio... (maybee I should get an ivtv account)... |
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| [02:10:00] | mchou: | yo kevin_ you there? |
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| [02:21:00] | Mrgoose: | Beirdo: one last question |
| [02:22:00] | directhex: | is there much point in sending in libmyth patches, given the move to libmythui? |
| [02:23:00] | ** NightBird burns knoppmyth to cd... ** | |
| [02:24:00] | directhex: | bedtime for me. |
| [02:24:00] | NightBird: | night |
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| [02:34:00] | Krazylegz: | NightBird: I thought you already had a Myth install? |
| [02:35:00] | EL_Whistey: | I'm unclear ... mythtv cd music ripping is internal to mythtv, right? |
| [02:35:00] | NightBird: | Krazylegz, on a virtual machine |
| [02:35:00] | EL_Whistey: | So how do I change the parameters to make it rip faster? |
| [02:36:00] | NightBird: | dinner time |
| [02:36:00] | cosmo_: | so, are svideo and composite outputs on generic video cards easy to get working under linux? Or is it a safer bet to get a scan converter? |
| [02:38:00] | kevin_: | mchou you around? |
| [02:40:00] | EL_Whistey: | cosmo_ depends. I've got component / tvout working on an nv 6600 |
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| [02:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | cosmo_: It all depends on the video drivers for thee card |
| [02:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | it's trivial to get svideo/composite out on a nvidia card for example |
| [02:43:00] | EL_Whistey: | with ati there are some packages, don't know how well with what versions, |
| [02:46:00] | ** NightBird is back ** | |
| [02:46:00] | EL_Whistey: | CD ripping seems very slow. Are there tweaks? |
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| [03:04:00] | ** xris wonders if $15/month is worth adding cable internet to his dsl line. ** | |
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| [03:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Then you'll download more stuff, which will require a. More writable DVDs, b. More writable CDs, or c. More hard drive space. |
| [03:15:00] | theturtl_: | ermm |
| [03:15:00] | theturtl_: | what would cause me to get an error saying /dev/dsp is already in use |
| [03:15:00] | theturtl_: | i don't have any apps that i know of playing audio |
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| [03:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | theturtl_: ummm running KDE or gnome by chance > |
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| [03:28:00] | theturtl_: | kde |
| [03:28:00] | theturtl_: | greyfoxx |
| [03:28:00] | theturtl_: | sorry i'm at work, had a call :( |
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| [03:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | theturtl_: I think kde has a audio daemon(artsd?) that grabs the sound card and expects other apps to send audio through it |
| [03:32:00] | theturtl_: | ic |
| [03:32:00] | theturtl_: | can u tell myth to use arts |
| [03:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | is this a dedicated myth box or just a desktop type machine? |
| [03:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | theturtl_: I see it as a compile option , but I don't know what if anything you would need to configure for it |
| [03:33:00] | theturtl_: | desktop type machine |
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| [03:33:00] | theturtl_: | which is kinda why i'm thinking, i might want to keep arts |
| [03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | theturtl_: Ok. I was going to say that KDE would be a massive waste of resources on a dedicated myth box |
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| [03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I know myth can support arts. I've just had no experience using it with kde to know what you might need to do |
| [03:35:00] | dhofstra: | I use kde on both machines and have never had a single problem |
| [03:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | using kde on a machine that only displays mythfrontend fullscreen is awaste of memory and cpu. But it's your's to do with as you please :) |
| [03:36:00] | dhofstra: | naw, I also use it for other purposes |
| [03:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've seen a few people with that audio issue unde rkde though. I think most just disabled arts and it worked. but I would expect there is a proper configuration to use it |
| [03:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe just compiling in the artsd support is enough, but without KDE running anywhere I can only guess |
| [03:37:00] | dhofstra: | or set the auto-suspend feature to 5 seconds or something |
| [03:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | auto suspend ? |
| [03:37:00] | dhofstra: | yeah, in the kde control panel |
| [03:38:00] | dhofstra: | a checkmark that says 'auto-suspend if idle for xx seconds' |
| [03:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | what exactly does it suspend? ? |
| [03:41:00] | dhofstra: | the kde sound system if it is not in use |
| [03:42:00] | dhofstra: | 'the KDE sound system takes exclusive control over your audio hardware, blocking programs that may wish to use it directly. If the KDE sound system sits idle it can give up this exclusive control' |
| [03:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | wacky :) |
| [03:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | but that would do the trick |
| [03:50:00] | Cardoe: | howdy ho |
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| [04:09:00] | rhstech: | Does anyone know why I would get crackling/stuttering from my Audigy sound card? My WinTV card goes into my Audigy through Line in, and that channel is set through capture |
| [04:09:00] | rhstech: | It seems to only be on the capture channel that crackles. If I let the sound go through recording, it sounds fine |
| [04:10:00] | rhstech: | Albeit out of sync |
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| [04:17:00] | ** dhofstra just got appointed for jury duty. It says no palm pilots; how am I supposed to play freecell then?? ** | |
| [04:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [04:18:00] | metusine: | does myth store the recorded programs file names anywhere/ |
| [04:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was on jury duty about 12 years ago. No palm pilots then :) |
| [04:18:00] | metusine: | ? |
| [04:18:00] | metusine: | or does it build up the name from the chanid+starttime+endtime? |
| [04:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's right. It's built from the logged recording data |
| [04:18:00] | dhofstra: | the filenames are in time/channel format or something humanly unreadable; you can used the script in /contrib to make them pretty |
| [04:20:00] | metusine: | ahhh |
| [04:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | hrm, well I guess if I'm gonna package up mythplugins for this thing I should provide all of the plugins |
| [04:21:00] | dhofstra: | which distro you packaging for? |
| [04:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | using SLAX to make a bootable usb stick based frontend |
| [04:21:00] | dhofstra: | cool |
| [04:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | or you can just burn the iso to a CD to boot from that |
| [04:22:00] | dhofstra: | I always wondered if that roku could be booted from a memory stick instead of trying to write a roku plugin for myth |
| [04:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | I wouldn't mind playing with one of those one day |
| [04:24:00] | dhofstra: | yeah, jams got one, but havent talked to him in a while |
| [04:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | So far this one is using 159Meg of space including myth, several libraries(libdvdnav etc), xine, mplayer, qt, mysql client libs, etc |
| [04:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | probably a few things I could trim, but since I have 256Meg usb sticks It's find by me :) |
| [04:27:00] | dhofstra: | this is one case where smaller is better |
| [04:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm sure I could get it under 128meg, but I'm not gonna bother |
| [04:28:00] | dhofstra: | they dont even sell 128 sticks anymore anyway |
| [04:28:00] | rhstech: | Can anyone help me figure out why my Line In Capture crackles with my Audigy and WinTV cards? |
| [04:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been able to do it without needing to change any of the base modules, and with only adding on my custom stuff. So I'm happy |
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| [04:31:00] | rhstech: | Or does anyone know where I can see debug information from ALSA? |
| [04:32:00] | emes: | mythtv seems to have have an issue with speed.. I can transfer files across the network at 1.2–1.3MB/s, and yet when I try to watch live tv or a not-yet-transcoded tv show, it's jumpy |
| [04:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | emes: so this is a remote frontend? Sure it's not a processor issue ? |
| [04:33:00] | emes: | GreyFoxx: a 1.67ghz G4 should be able to handle it.. |
| [04:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I would imagine so |
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| [04:36:00] | bongo: | I'm using myth from cvs (svn transaction 7020- as 7021 and higher appear to have compile issues). I have an issue where when I startup the mythtv-setup on a different X11 machine, the display has a whole lot of squares rather than the expected theme – has anyone experienced this before? |
| [04:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | bongo: seeing squares in place of text implies a missing font of some sort |
| [04:37:00] | bongo: | ahh ok |
| [04:38:00] | bongo: | that sounds plausible |
| [04:38:00] | bongo: | since the server with the DVB card isn't used for X11, just a headless machine |
| [04:39:00] | bongo: | indeed... no font packs loaded |
| [04:39:00] | theturtl_: | any other apps for tv viewing that work with ivtv , other than mythtv? |
| [04:39:00] | emes: | theturtl_: mplayer |
| [04:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | theturtl_: mplayer is about the only one I can think of |
| [04:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | and I have no idea how well/complete that support is beyond the basic playing of /dev/video0 output |
| [04:40:00] | bongo: | GreyFoxx: thanks, that's resolved it! |
| [04:41:00] | theturtl_: | greyfoxx yeah, it works |
| [04:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool |
| [04:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | and cool again |
| [04:41:00] | theturtl_: | but its not really for tv viewing |
| [04:41:00] | theturtl_: | :/ |
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| [04:44:00] | ShALLaX: | "VIDOCGMBUF: Invalid argument" when trying to start live tv... any ideas? |
| [04:45:00] | ShALLaX: | google int my friend in this case |
| [04:45:00] | ShALLaX: | isnt* |
| [04:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | ShALLaX: What kind of capture card ? |
| [04:47:00] | theturtl_: | why isn't mythtv working with artsd! :( haha |
| [04:47:00] | ShALLaX: | PVR-250 |
| [04:47:00] | ShALLaX: | had a possible idea |
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| [04:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Did you configure it as a Standard v4l card in myth setup instead of an mpeg2 encoder ? :) |
| [04:48:00] | ShALLaX: | hrm |
| [04:49:00] | ShALLaX: | hehe |
| [04:49:00] | ShALLaX: | you star |
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| [04:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | ;) |
| [04:50:00] | ShALLaX: | hrm.. i have no sound though :s |
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| [04:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Possibly a conflicting msp3400.o/ko module ? The ivtv drives have one as well, and you need to ensure that the other is either deleted or something else to keep it from being loaded |
| [04:51:00] | ShALLaX: | aye, i deleted the other |
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| [04:53:00] | ShALLaX: | i think this will have to wait until tomorrow |
| [04:53:00] | ShALLaX: | 4am now |
| [04:53:00] | ShALLaX: | ;p |
| [04:53:00] | ShALLaX: | thanks for the help, though! |
| [04:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | night :) |
| [04:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | np |
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| [04:54:00] | ShALLaX: | gnighty |
| [04:56:00] | theturtl_: | hrmm, mythtv plays video for livetv for a second, then freezes |
| [04:57:00] | theturtl_: | goes back to main menu, console says , remote encoder is not responding |
| [04:57:00] | theturtl_: | :/ |
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| [05:00:00] | theturtl_: | nothing works for this thing, i'm about to throw mythtv out the window |
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| [05:05:00] | dhofstra: | i know you all read slashdot, but mythtv in the car? thats a new one.. |
| [05:05:00] | dhofstra: | http://www.timekiller.org/carpc/ |
| [05:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | dhofstra: There have been a few people who have done it now |
| [05:06:00] | dhofstra: | cmon, vlc streaming over what, cell phone network? |
| [05:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | A friend of mine did it last summer. Though he didn't go as far as making a control panel like that guy |
| [05:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | That would be nasty I imagine :) |
| [05:07:00] | bongo: | it wouldn't be too bad |
| [05:07:00] | bongo: | when your car gets into the garage, rsync the data |
| [05:08:00] | bongo: | sync up the database, and then pretend to work locally when you out roaming |
| [05:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | *nod* |
| [05:08:00] | dhofstra: | aw, honey, dont call me in the car.. I'm watching a show. now if I could just find the traffic light skip button on this remote... |
| [05:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or just sync over mythvideo stuff |
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| [05:11:00] | dhofstra: | it'd have more prebuffering pauses than my 92 explorer.. heh |
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| [05:24:00] | hadees: | anyone here have xorg lockups issues? |
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| [05:25:00] | defaultro: | hey guys |
| [05:26:00] | mchou: | carpc. I hope they dont crash the car :) |
| [05:27:00] | hadees: | i don't think i would want a car pc that couldn't give me directions |
| [05:28:00] | defaultro: | what's a good portable gps device? |
| [05:28:00] | mchou: | I wouldnt want a carpc period :) |
| [05:28:00] | defaultro: | is magellan good? |
| [05:29:00] | mchou: | defaultro: you sure have a lot of toys :) |
| [05:29:00] | defaultro: | not really, just planning |
| [05:29:00] | defaultro: | what's up buddy? |
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| [05:29:00] | mchou: | not much. |
| [05:29:00] | hadees: | man this stuiped xorg lockup has no damn resolution |
| [05:30:00] | defaultro: | btw, i got vlc playing .nuv files via a samba share |
| [05:30:00] | mchou: | had to stay home today. |
| [05:30:00] | defaultro: | it's cool. I saw a howto at gossamer :) |
| [05:30:00] | mchou: | food poisoning :( |
| [05:30:00] | defaultro: | oh no |
| [05:30:00] | defaultro: | you vommited everything now? |
| [05:30:00] | defaultro: | it happened to me 3 weeks ago |
| [05:30:00] | mchou: | no. the other end |
| [05:30:00] | defaultro: | good |
| [05:31:00] | hadees: | mchou, drink lots of water |
| [05:31:00] | defaultro: | just water an |
| [05:31:00] | mchou: | yeah. |
| [05:31:00] | mchou: | gatorade :) |
| [05:31:00] | defaultro: | i ate an old pasta |
| [05:31:00] | defaultro: | then went to dentist |
| [05:31:00] | mchou: | yeah, that will do ya :) |
| [05:31:00] | defaultro: | i was noticing something was wrong with my vision |
| [05:31:00] | defaultro: | it was circling |
| [05:31:00] | hadees: | i wonder if any direction software for windows will run in wine |
| [05:31:00] | mchou: | seriously?? |
| [05:32:00] | defaultro: | then when dentist was done after 1 hr, i went to sitting position and i couldn't balance |
| [05:32:00] | hadees: | i wonder what that car pc guy is going to do when he sells his car |
| [05:32:00] | defaultro: | my body was trembling |
| [05:32:00] | mchou: | I've never had vision problems due to food poisoning |
| [05:32:00] | mchou: | wow, that's serious |
| [05:32:00] | defaultro: | then went to restroom and started puking |
| [05:32:00] | defaultro: | i was puking for an hour |
| [05:32:00] | mchou: | at the dentist? |
| [05:32:00] | defaultro: | yup |
| [05:32:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [05:33:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [05:33:00] | defaultro: | the dentist got scared |
| [05:33:00] | mchou: | you should had sue the dentist :) |
| [05:33:00] | mchou: | sued* |
| [05:33:00] | mchou: | j/k :) |
| [05:33:00] | defaultro: | he was protecting his local anesthesia |
| [05:33:00] | defaultro: | but i knew, it was the pasta at home |
| [05:33:00] | mchou: | defaultro: exactly :) |
| [05:33:00] | defaultro: | i thought my esophagus would come out |
| [05:33:00] | hadees: | defaultro, food poising from pasta? |
| [05:34:00] | defaultro: | from the pasta sauce |
| [05:34:00] | mchou: | bad pasta sauce. |
| [05:34:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [05:34:00] | mchou: | happens all the time |
| [05:34:00] | defaultro: | :( |
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| [05:34:00] | defaultro: | it still tasted good though |
| [05:34:00] | mchou: | pasta sauce get's moldy quick :) |
| [05:34:00] | defaultro: | i ranted on my wife :) |
| [05:34:00] | mchou: | gets* |
| [05:34:00] | mchou: | she didnt get sick? |
| [05:34:00] | bongo: | I write the date on the lid when I open it |
| [05:34:00] | defaultro: | i told her not to keep it in the fridge |
| [05:34:00] | bongo: | makes things simpler |
| [05:34:00] | defaultro: | it was only me who ate |
| [05:35:00] | defaultro: | that was the worst puke i had |
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| [05:35:00] | bongo: | you're not drinking enough tequila |
| [05:35:00] | mchou: | yeah, no doubt |
| [05:35:00] | defaultro: | worst than the 95 proof wine i drank |
| [05:35:00] | hadees: | hmm i think that carpc guy didn't use google, http://gpsdrive.kraftvoll.at/ |
| [05:35:00] | defaultro: | tequilla is imple |
| [05:35:00] | defaultro: | is simple |
| [05:36:00] | defaultro: | i like tequilla because it's going to kill ya |
| [05:36:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [05:36:00] | hadees: | do you drink real tequilla or that crap they sell in most places |
| [05:36:00] | defaultro: | i just drink in restos |
| [05:36:00] | mchou: | lol, that's a redundant question. |
| [05:36:00] | defaultro: | the yellow brand |
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| [05:37:00] | defaultro: | my friend did this, bailey+whiskey (10% + 90% of jameson beer) all in one champange glass |
| [05:38:00] | hadees: | most stuff they call tequilla is just flavored alcohol |
| [05:38:00] | defaultro: | bailey's and whiskey was mixed in the shotglass and placed inside the big champagne glass |
| [05:38:00] | defaultro: | then in the champagne glass was the jameson beer |
| [05:38:00] | hadees: | sounds kind of like a car bomb |
| [05:38:00] | defaultro: | once you start drinking, whiskey and bailey's starts mixing with jameson |
| [05:38:00] | defaultro: | lol |
| [05:39:00] | defaultro: | it tasted good |
| [05:39:00] | defaultro: | a little drowsiness effect |
| [05:40:00] | theturtl_: | isn't zap2it datadirect in video sources? |
| [05:41:00] | mchou: | only if you add it. |
| [05:41:00] | theturtl_: | i'm putting in my username and pass but its not bringing up any lineups |
| [05:41:00] | theturtl_: | add it? it was there already |
| [05:41:00] | defaultro: | once you run mythfilldatabase, it should pull it, that's what i remember |
| [05:42:00] | theturtl_: | but datadirect IS zap2it? |
| [05:42:00] | defaultro: | mchou, any ideas between maple or oak hardwood that has more movement(shrinkage/expansion) issue? |
| [05:42:00] | defaultro: | cherry too |
| [05:43:00] | mchou: | defaultro: wow, going all out man. |
| [05:43:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [05:43:00] | mchou: | I'm not really sure on expansion. |
| [05:43:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:44:00] | mchou: | the cut of the wood determines expansion though. |
| [05:44:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:44:00] | mchou: | if maple you want quarter-sawn stock. |
| [05:44:00] | defaultro: | anyone here too that have hardwood floors at home? |
| [05:44:00] | defaultro: | quarer-sawn? |
| [05:44:00] | defaultro: | first time I heard it :) |
| [05:44:00] | defaultro: | quarter |
| [05:45:00] | mchou: | yeah. Imagine looking at the tree trunk from the top. |
| [05:45:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:45:00] | mchou: | quarter sawn is a pizza slice. |
| [05:45:00] | defaultro: | gotcha |
| [05:46:00] | mchou: | so you want wedges all the way down. |
| [05:46:00] | defaultro: | how would i determine if the maple is quarter-sawn? |
| [05:46:00] | defaultro: | what is wedges? |
| [05:46:00] | defaultro: | are |
| [05:46:00] | mchou: | you look to see if it has a "pattern" or figure. |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:47:00] | mchou: | wedges is just a figure of speech. |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [05:47:00] | mchou: | small pizza slices :) |
| [05:47:00] | mchou: | but all the way down the truck |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | where did you learn all about hardwoods? |
| [05:47:00] | mchou: | trunk* |
| [05:48:00] | mchou: | I make violins |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | wow |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | that's cool |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | so are cherry woods good? |
| [05:48:00] | mchou: | strictly hobby. |
| [05:48:00] | theturtl_: | i'm trying to run mythfilldatabase and its saying 401 unauthorized |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | that's fine url |
| [05:48:00] | mchou: | cherry is good if you can get the good stuff. |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | but it will darken over time. |
| [05:49:00] | defaultro: | is cherry always dark? |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | nope. |
| [05:49:00] | defaultro: | like maple, darkens over time |
| [05:49:00] | defaultro: | my wife like red oak |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | red oak is a good material for floors. |
| [05:49:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:49:00] | defaultro: | i think, we should go with red oak then |
| [05:50:00] | mchou: | cherry generally darkens faster than maple. |
| [05:50:00] | defaultro: | i brought one sample and she liked it |
| [05:50:00] | theturtl_: | wtf are you guys talking about |
| [05:50:00] | mchou: | I still prefer bamboo. |
| [05:50:00] | defaultro: | theturtl, looks like you are looking for mythtv-user channel right? |
| [05:50:00] | hadees: | theturtl_, unicorns |
| [05:50:00] | defaultro: | but sorry, this isn't mythtv-user channels |
| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | doublecheck your channel |
| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | lol |
| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | j/k |
| [05:51:00] | mchou: | that stuff is indestructable. |
| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | ok |
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| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | theturtl, i do see those 401 and it's fine |
| [05:51:00] | theturtl_: | defaultro ya if you get a 200ok afterwards |
| [05:52:00] | theturtl_: | i don't |
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| [05:52:00] | mchou: | and it's much thicker than the red oak stuff you can get. |
| [05:52:00] | theturtl_: | what file does mythtv edit for ch annel settings...is there an xml somewhere? |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | mchou, my friend told me that my house might not have high resale value if I put in bamboo |
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| [05:52:00] | mchou: | which means a longer life. |
| [05:52:00] | mchou: | defaultro: huh?? |
| [05:52:00] | rjune: | mchou: there's some australian hardwood that's supposed to cure to about the strength of steel |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | yeah, that's what he told me |
| [05:52:00] | mchou: | I think your friend is daft. |
| [05:53:00] | rjune: | defaultro: he basing that on "maybe bamboo won't be in vogue" ? |
| [05:53:00] | defaultro: | so is bamboo still in fad? |
| [05:53:00] | rjune: | currently? I dunno. |
| [05:53:00] | mchou: | California Houses with bamboo have generally higher resale values than othe hardwood flooring |
| [05:53:00] | defaultro: | he said, bamboo was expensive before, but now, it really went down |
| [05:53:00] | mchou: | other* |
| [05:53:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:54:00] | rjune: | probably piss poor quality, good hardwood flooring isn't cheap. bad hardwood flooring is. don't matter what the wood is |
| [05:54:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | rjune: exactly |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | you have to get good bamboo. |
| [05:54:00] | defaultro: | let me show you some |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | not the junk crap. |
| [05:54:00] | rjune: | thouigh for some reason I thought bamboo was a softer wood |
| [05:55:00] | mchou: | bamboo aint wood. |
| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | http://www.lumberliquidators.com/shopping/ind . . . ategory_id=5 |
| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | it's grass |
| [05:55:00] | mchou: | and it's harder than oak :) |
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| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | bamboos in our country were just normal floors |
| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | we also use them for building kites |
| [05:55:00] | mary is now known as Smurf2 | |
| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | also as canon |
| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | during new year |
| [05:56:00] | hadees: | defaultro, our country? where the hell do you live china? |
| [05:56:00] | mchou: | defaultro is filipino :) |
| [05:56:00] | mchou: | iirc :) |
| [05:56:00] | defaultro: | i mean, we used bamboos for creating floors in native houses |
| [05:57:00] | hadees: | defaultro, do you eat duck eggs |
| [05:57:00] | defaultro: | but not as flat as the once sold here |
| [05:57:00] | defaultro: | nope |
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| [05:57:00] | mchou: | haha, duck eggs. |
| [05:57:00] | defaultro: | i have tried duck, tasted like chicken |
| [05:57:00] | [Klatuu]: | ok ok ok |
| [05:57:00] | [Klatuu]: | why is this not happening |
| [05:57:00] | mchou: | I've heard stories about those. |
| [05:58:00] | rjune: | mchou: why is that funny? |
| [05:58:00] | [Klatuu]: | I can change channels with the up and down arrows on the keyboard |
| [05:58:00] | hadees: | i saw it on taboo |
| [05:58:00] | [Klatuu]: | but when I setup a recording it doesn't change channels |
| [05:58:00] | defaultro: | but i grew up where i had a hard time eating food that normal filipinos ate |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | rjune: apparently there is a tradition of eating duck eggs when chicks were about to hatch |
| [05:58:00] | rjune: | nice. |
| [05:58:00] | defaultro: | when i was a kid, i only knew hotdot and hamburger |
| [05:58:00] | defaultro: | hotdog |
| [05:59:00] | mchou: | that's worse than duck eggs :) |
| [05:59:00] | hadees: | defaultro, do you know why people eats those? i mean its sure is something strange, has it been going on for like hundreds of years? |
| [05:59:00] | defaultro: | i'm glad, i'm in u.s., hotdogs and hamburger all around |
| [05:59:00] | rjune: | mchou: nothing wrong with hamburger |
| [05:59:00] | defaultro: | i have never heard people eating duck eggs |
| [05:59:00] | mchou: | defaultro: "Mad cow" disease :) |
| [05:59:00] | hadees: | defaultro, really? |
| [05:59:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [06:00:00] | defaultro: | chicken eggs might be |
| [06:00:00] | rjune: | mchou: you get that in steak too. |
| [06:00:00] | mchou: | I lived with some old school filipinos and they told me the story. |
| [06:00:00] | theturtl_: | what file does mythtv edit for ch annel settings...is there an xml somewhere? |
| [06:00:00] | hadees: | there were fully formed ducks like weeks from hatching |
| [06:00:00] | mchou: | I thought they were joking. |
| [06:00:00] | defaultro: | what story? |
| [06:00:00] | rjune: | only reason it shows up in hamburger more is it's more likely to contain brain matter |
| [06:00:00] | mchou: | [21:00:18] <hadees> there were fully formed ducks like weeks from hatching |
| [06:00:00] | mchou: | defaultro: ^^^ |
| [06:00:00] | defaultro: | they're not ducks |
| [06:01:00] | defaultro: | they're called 6day old |
| [06:01:00] | defaultro: | they're chickens |
| [06:01:00] | mchou: | it's considered a delicacy. |
| [06:01:00] | bongo: | <PartyLine>There's no CJD infected cows in the USA</PartyLine> cos we pretend they're from canada! |
| [06:01:00] | hadees: | taboo said they were ducks |
| [06:01:00] | hadees: | TV lied to me |
| [06:01:00] | defaultro: | it's very yucky to me when i saw it |
| [06:01:00] | rjune: | bongo: there have been confirmed cases in the US now |
| [06:01:00] | defaultro: | who's taboo? |
| [06:01:00] | mchou: | I bet it taste good :) |
| [06:01:00] | hadees: | its a TV show |
| [06:02:00] | mchou: | imagine how tender the chick is :) |
| [06:02:00] | defaultro: | sometimes, they exagerate things which affects filipinos |
| [06:02:00] | bongo: | watch Baraka and you might not want to eat battery farmed chickens/eggs again |
| [06:02:00] | defaultro: | bongo, depends on how you were brought up |
| [06:02:00] | rjune: | indeed |
| [06:02:00] | hadees: | Taboo, it talks about things that cultural but to outsiders seem gross or strange |
| [06:02:00] | defaultro: | it's normal to those people |
| [06:02:00] | defaultro: | i just hate it now that my kids are scared of flies, ants, mosquitoes |
| [06:02:00] | defaultro: | and other things here in u.s |
| [06:03:00] | defaultro: | that's my point bongo |
| [06:03:00] | defaultro: | i can hold big praying mantis in my hand |
| [06:03:00] | rjune: | defaultro: don't feel bad, mine don't like flying critters near his face |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | heh, mosquitos they should be scare of. west nile. |
| [06:03:00] | bongo: | I have no issue with the ducks |
| [06:03:00] | rjune: | mchou: and malaria, depending on where you are |
| [06:03:00] | defaultro: | i mean, they should not run |
| [06:03:00] | defaultro: | that's how scared they are |
| [06:03:00] | rjune: | defaultro: how old are they? |
| [06:03:00] | defaultro: | even flies, when i saw them run, i just laugh |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | 33 |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | oh |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | lol |
| [06:04:00] | rjune: | your kids are 33? that's rediculous |
| [06:04:00] | rjune: | slap them around |
| [06:04:00] | bongo: | heh |
| [06:04:00] | mchou: | heheh |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | i'm laughing very hard now |
| [06:04:00] | bongo is now known as benw | |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | though you were asking me |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | i got a 10 |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | 8 |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | 5 & 4 |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | been very busy |
| [06:04:00] | rjune: | wow, nice |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | ;) |
| [06:04:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [06:04:00] | rjune: | I gotta go, TTYL |
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| [06:05:00] | benw: | heh, just 1 4month old for us... that keeps us busy enough |
| [06:05:00] | theturtl_: | haha |
| [06:05:00] | defaultro: | i know |
| [06:05:00] | defaultro: | it's different here in u.s. |
| [06:05:00] | theturtl_: | looks like i signed up in the wrong place, i shoulda signed up at labs.zap2it.com |
| [06:05:00] | defaultro: | theturtl, you're in right channel |
| [06:05:00] | defaultro: | it's just that, we're having some good times |
| [06:06:00] | defaultro: | i wish, all of us are near like 40 or 60 miles |
| [06:06:00] | defaultro: | then we'll have gtg |
| [06:07:00] | defaultro: | mchou, did you see the bamboo link i gave you/ |
| [06:07:00] | defaultro: | ? |
| [06:07:00] | mchou: | yeah. |
| [06:07:00] | mchou: | no idea re quality over there. |
| [06:08:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:08:00] | defaultro: | so i should not be worried about house resale value? |
| [06:08:00] | mchou: | I dont think so. |
| [06:08:00] | defaultro: | am gonna look into it again |
| [06:09:00] | mchou: | It's possible new buys dont like bamboo (just because they dont know about it) |
| [06:09:00] | mchou: | buyers* |
| [06:09:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:12:00] | benw: | you don't have a pet panda do you? |
| [06:13:00] | defaultro: | none |
| [06:13:00] | mchou: | benw: haha |
| [06:13:00] | mchou: | defaultro: this is a good resource: http://www.sustainableflooring.com/bamboo_cor . . . esources.htm |
| [06:13:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:13:00] | defaultro: | looking |
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| [06:14:00] | mchou: | If you get bamboo make sure you get ppl who know how to install bamboo. |
| [06:14:00] | cesman: | howdy folks |
| [06:14:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:15:00] | mchou: | "Therefore, installers must realize that two weeks for acclimatization on the job site after the flooring is removed from the carton may not be long enough. Installers must test the moisture content with the moisture tester in different areas of a plank. Installation over radiant heat requires additional special attention." |
| [06:15:00] | defaultro: | wow |
| [06:15:00] | cesman: | anyone know the story w/ 0.18.2? |
| [06:15:00] | defaultro: | looks like more maintenance |
| [06:16:00] | cesman: | cvs.mythtv.org states it is the stable branch, yet I see no annoucements convernign it's release |
| [06:16:00] | mchou: | maybe in Chicago :) |
| [06:16:00] | cesman: | s/converign/concerning |
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| [06:20:00] | Cardoe: | there are no 0.18.2 tarballs that I see |
| [06:20:00] | theturtl_: | i don't get it, i can login to labs.zap2it.com fine |
| [06:20:00] | theturtl_: | but im getting authorization failed in mythtv-setup |
| [06:20:00] | theturtl_: | when i hit retrieve lineups |
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| [06:24:00] | theturtl_: | if i put the link in my web browser and try to login, same thing |
| [06:25:00] | theturtl_: | http://datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com/tvlistings/xtvdService |
| [06:27:00] | FITH: | Wow.. I guess I'm probably the last one to say it but... I can't believe Space channel isn't showing Battle Star Galactica until 2006... Hell, my grandma will have high quality torrents and have burnt it onto DVD by then.... |
| [06:27:00] | FITH: | (err, BSG Season 2 that is) |
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| [06:36:00] | fatmatt: | lets say, for arguments sake, that my hard drive got hosed and I need to reinstall a linux server / myth box from scratch, it used to be debian |
| [06:37:00] | fatmatt: | what distribution would people recomend |
| [06:38:00] | theturtl_: | space channel? |
| [06:39:00] | theturtl_: | dedicated myth box i'd use knoppmyth, suse's been a pain in my ass |
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| [06:39:00] | _dockane_: | hi all |
| [06:39:00] | fatmatt: | its not competely dedicated, it does other things, samba, apache (local), the odd script for fetching stuff |
| [06:39:00] | cesman: | hello |
| [06:40:00] | cesman: | KnoppMyth includeds Samba and Apache |
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| [06:41:00] | _dockane_: | i am really amazed what mythtv is about |
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| [06:42:00] | fatmatt: | knopmyth sounds so noob like, I don't want to be one of those.. whats the difference between it and standard debian? multiple card support? |
| [06:43:00] | cesman: | noob like?! |
| [06:43:00] | emes: | fatmatt: gentoo works too |
| [06:44:00] | cesman: | KnoppMyth is designed to get Linux and MythTV up an running in a quick and easy manner |
| [06:45:00] | cesman: | I started it because, getting a PVR up and running shouldn't take a day... |
| [06:46:00] | theturtl_: | it is a great app for a dedicated myth box |
| [06:46:00] | theturtl_: | if you plan on using a box just for pvr, theres no reason to use anything but |
| [06:46:00] | benw: | yeah I hate stuffing around on a generic machine to get it all working |
| [06:46:00] | benw: | I haven't had many issues with suse though |
| [06:46:00] | cesman: | it isn't an app, it is a distro |
| [06:46:00] | benw: | suse-9.3 has kernel support for my dvb card builtin, so that makes things simple |
| [06:47:00] | theturtl_: | ic benw, ya well its a learning curve issue for me, but suse did not have support for my card built in :D |
| [06:47:00] | _dockane_: | i read a lot about cpu power usage of mythtv (and think myself is safe with a 2000xp and 256 mb ram for encoding only) ... but: i always lack of harddisks. is there a way to stream into lan (100 mbit) from a livesystem ? |
| [06:47:00] | benw: | now I just need to either get a buttload of disk space or work out how get transcoding simply |
| [06:47:00] | theturtl_: | plus just lots of small issues getting mythtv working properly |
| [06:47:00] | benw: | yeah those little issues are a pain |
| [06:49:00] | theturtl_: | zap2it will not take my pass |
| [06:50:00] | theturtl_: | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized |
| [06:50:00] | theturtl_: | Authorization failed. |
| [06:50:00] | theturtl_: | there's no 200ok :/ |
| [07:00:00] | theturtl_: | does mythtv support timeshifting? |
| [07:01:00] | kormoc|afk: | it's what myth does |
| [07:03:00] | theturtl_: | well i know it can schedule recordings, just wasn't sure if it could time shift |
| [07:03:00] | theturtl_: | freevo can't |
| [07:04:00] | kormoc|afk: | well, what do you mean by timeshift? |
| [07:06:00] | theturtl_: | pause livetv |
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| [07:06:00] | theturtl_: | rewind livet |
| [07:06:00] | theturtl_: | livetv |
| [07:06:00] | Uberbot: | Hi all. |
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| [07:07:00] | Uberbot: | I just updated one of my frontends (gentoo) and now I can't connect to the backend.... |
| [07:07:00] | theturtl_: | where it automatically records everything your watching, for say a configurable amount of time, say half an hour back or something |
| [07:07:00] | Uberbot: | Can't create/write to file './mythconverg/schemalock.frm' (Errcode: 13)2005-08–12 22:59:18.216 Couldn't upgrade database to new schema, exiting. |
| [07:07:00] | theturtl_: | so you can rewind back half an hour. or pause |
| [07:07:00] | kormoc|afk: | theturtl_, ahh, that it doesn't |
| [07:07:00] | Uberbot: | Any one know what that means? |
| [07:07:00] | kormoc|afk: | Uberbot, you need to update the backends as well as the frontends |
| [07:07:00] | theturtl_: | really :/ |
| [07:07:00] | kormoc|afk: | theturtl_, when you change channels, it would have to restart anyway |
| [07:08:00] | theturtl_: | sure |
| [07:08:00] | Uberbot: | I wasn't intending to upgrade the frontend.... Doh! :-O |
| [07:08:00] | Uberbot: | I'm using KnoppMyth for the backend... for now. |
| [07:11:00] | Uberbot: | I'm going to downgrade from .18.1-r2 to r1. Hope that fixes it. |
| [07:11:00] | theturtl_: | what is SIP, i'm getting some message about it when i start the frontend |
| [07:13:00] | theturtl_: | kormoc|afk mythtv DOES do that btw |
| [07:14:00] | kormoc|afk: | theturtl_, it only records back if I pause on mine |
| [07:16:00] | theturtl_: | isaac richard says it does on wikipedia :/ |
| [07:16:00] | theturtl_: | The ability to pause, skip, and rewind live TV |
| [07:17:00] | kormoc|afk: | once I pause and then fast forward, I can rewind back to where I paused, but it doesn't do it automatically on mine |
| [07:18:00] | theturtl_: | thats weird, it should just be constantly recording |
| [07:18:00] | theturtl_: | perhaps its a config issue, i dunno jack about mythtv really, i could just be misinformed here :/ |
| [07:18:00] | benw: | SIP is a VOIP protocol |
| [07:18:00] | benw: | voice over ip |
| [07:18:00] | theturtl_: | ic that |
| [07:19:00] | theturtl_: | i was just trying to find otu exactly that plugin did |
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| [08:51:00] | anxt: | hello |
| [08:51:00] | anxt: | Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost |
| [08:51:00] | anxt: | anyone know, things went south i am not sure why |
| [08:52:00] | anxt: | i wonder if it has anything to do with xine? |
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| [08:54:00] | DCG: | anyone know what would be resonating at 4khz increments, centered at around 12khz? |
| [08:55:00] | anxt: | how do you mean? |
| [08:55:00] | anxt: | can you hear 12khz well? |
| [08:55:00] | DCG: | i'm getting audio noise at 4khz, 8khz, 12khz, 16khz |
| [08:55:00] | DCG: | its strongest at 12khz |
| [08:55:00] | anxt: | well those are likely harmonics, or subharmonics? |
| [08:56:00] | DCG: | dunno |
| [08:56:00] | anxt: | can you explain more clearly |
| [08:57:00] | DCG: | one sec and i can post a image of the spectrogram and a wave clip |
| [08:58:00] | anxt: | sure and something about oyur setup |
| [08:58:00] | anxt: | i wonder |
| [08:58:00] | anxt: | 44.1 48k |
| [08:58:00] | anxt: | 48–44.1 |
| [08:58:00] | anxt: | 3.9khz |
| [08:58:00] | DCG: | maybe... |
| [08:59:00] | anxt: | maybe a resampling problem? |
| [08:59:00] | anxt: | it is just a shot in the dark atm i am unclear of what you mean |
| [09:00:00] | DCG: | http://www.consolevision.com/members/dcgrendel/noise.jpg |
| [09:00:00] | DCG: | http://www.consolevision.com/members/dcgrendel/noise.wav |
| [09:01:00] | DCG: | though it wasnt there with the audio cable unplugged |
| [09:02:00] | DCG: | so it might be coming from the bt878 card |
| [09:02:00] | anxt: | ohh |
| [09:02:00] | anxt: | this is easy |
| [09:02:00] | anxt: | :) |
| [09:02:00] | anxt: | you are picking shit up from your noise EMR environment |
| [09:02:00] | DCG: | eh? |
| [09:03:00] | anxt: | might start with a good cable |
| [09:03:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [09:03:00] | anxt: | is this a thingy where you patch you card into line in? |
| [09:03:00] | DCG: | yea |
| [09:03:00] | anxt: | ahh |
| [09:03:00] | DCG: | though with my old mythtv box (same cable) there was no issue |
| [09:03:00] | anxt: | i had that problem with a tv wonder |
| [09:03:00] | anxt: | different box? |
| [09:03:00] | DCG: | different mobo |
| [09:05:00] | DCG: | same car |
| [09:05:00] | DCG: | d |
| [09:05:00] | DCG: | same cable |
| [09:05:00] | anxt: | try wrapping a bunch of tinfoil around the cable see if it changes the sound at all, if it doesn't my theory is toast |
| [09:05:00] | DCG: | wish i knew if the wintv-go supported digital audio |
| [09:05:00] | DCG: | hehe |
| [09:06:00] | xris: | what's the point of digital audio if you're just taking a crappy analog signal and compressing it to mp3? |
| [09:07:00] | DCG: | if the tv card has onboard dac wired correctly then theres less noise |
| [09:08:00] | xris: | but if your source is (relatively) crappy, it doesn't matter. |
| [09:08:00] | DCG: | video is good quality |
| [09:08:00] | xris: | what source? |
| [09:09:00] | DCG: | and audio was working fine before i switched motherboards |
| [09:09:00] | anxt: | or maybe you can lift the ground? |
| [09:09:00] | anxt: | or plug you speakers directly into cap card line out and see if you hear the same noise |
| [09:09:00] | anxt: | oh ok |
| [09:09:00] | DCG: | yea, i'm about to go do that in a sec |
| [09:09:00] | anxt: | so is there a sample rate thing in alsamixer? |
| [09:09:00] | anxt: | (completely forget what i said about lifting the ground that was stupid) |
| [09:09:00] | anxt: | (since the ground would be common on the screws the hold the card in ... |
| [09:10:00] | anxt: | ) |
| [09:10:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [09:10:00] | anxt: | is it onboard sound? |
| [09:10:00] | DCG: | onboard audio |
| [09:10:00] | xris: | ac97? |
| [09:10:00] | DCG: | nforce mcp |
| [09:10:00] | ** anxt dcc's DCG a cheap ens1371 ** | |
| [09:11:00] | DCG: | heh |
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| [09:11:00] | DCG: | i've got a YMF724 i was using with the old board that i could in theory move over to the new one |
| [09:11:00] | DCG: | though i'm not getting noise with the linein cable unplugged |
| [09:11:00] | anxt: | what is the line in plugged into i still don't know your hardware |
| [09:12:00] | DCG: | BT878 lineout -> nForce2 MCP linein |
| [09:12:00] | DCG: | external |
| [09:12:00] | anxt: | ok |
| [09:12:00] | DCG: | using the original loop cable hauppauge provided |
| [09:13:00] | anxt: | i had shitty audio and i rma'd my card and got my pvr-250 |
| [09:13:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [09:13:00] | anxt: | which was delicious |
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| [09:13:00] | xris: | DCG: ever occur to you that the bt878 just has crappy sound? |
| [09:13:00] | DCG: | i doubt they would take a 6 year old bt878 and give me a 250 in place :P |
| [09:14:00] | anxt: | there is a bt848 capture driver or something in lasa in the 2.6 series |
| [09:14:00] | DCG: | xris: ever read the 4 times above i said "It had perfect sound before i upgraded mobos" |
| [09:14:00] | anxt: | 848? |
| [09:14:00] | anxt: | this shit is frustrating no? |
| [09:14:00] | DCG: | yes :) |
| [09:15:00] | DCG: | trying to figure out if the tvaudio driver will work or not |
| [09:15:00] | DCG: | 1 [Bt878 ]: Bt87x – Brooktree Bt878 |
| [09:15:00] | DCG: | Brooktree Bt878 at 0xc1001000, irq 12 |
| [09:15:00] | DCG: | that looks promising |
| [09:15:00] | DCG: | gonna have to try capturing to a mp3 and seeing what i get |
| [09:15:00] | xris: | DCG: so... change back? |
| [09:16:00] | xris: | probably just a hardware incompatibility. or moving the card f'd something up. |
| [09:16:00] | anxt: | CONFIG_SND_BT87X: x |
| [09:16:00] | anxt: | x x |
| [09:16:00] | anxt: | x If you want to record audio from TV cards based on x |
| [09:16:00] | anxt: | x Brooktree Bt878/Bt879 chips, say Y here and read x |
| [09:16:00] | anxt: | x <file:Documentation/sound/alsa/Bt87x.txt>. |
| [09:16:00] | DCG: | xris: the point of upgrading was to get 2 things: firewire (which my 2nd input relies on) and a fast enough cpu to record at bitrates over 1kbit |
| [09:16:00] | xris: | DCG: money better spent on a better tuner. |
| [09:17:00] | DCG: | uhm, $0 spent so far on upgrading |
| [09:17:00] | xris: | ah |
| [09:17:00] | xris: | so have you switched back to see if the problem is still there? |
| [09:17:00] | xris: | if it goes away, you know that you have issues with the new mobo |
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| [09:17:00] | DCG: | again, too much effort esp when i've got firewire recordings going like crazy right now |
| [09:18:00] | DCG: | so i cant shutdown in the middle of them |
| [09:18:00] | DCG: | brb, testing tvaudio |
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| [09:30:00] | DCG: | ok, tvcard lacks the circutry to do audio capture (cheapass hauppauge) |
| [09:31:00] | DCG: | with 48000 capture i only see a band of noise at 16000 |
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| [09:33:00] | DCG: | same with 44100 now |
| [09:37:00] | DCG: | at 32000 theres a noticable warble but not the constant 4khz incremental noise |
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| [09:52:00] | DCG: | gah |
| [09:52:00] | DCG: | oh well |
| [09:52:00] | DCG: | i give up for now |
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| [10:03:00] | theturtl_: | speaking of firewire, i wonder aare there any sat receivers that output firewire |
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| [10:07:00] | xris: | theturtl_: doubtful. only reason cable has it is that it's required by law |
| [10:10:00] | theturtl_: | cable has it, didn't know that, never owned a digital cable box tho |
| [10:10:00] | theturtl_: | why would firewire output on a digital cable box be LAW |
| [10:10:00] | theturtl_: | :D |
| [10:10:00] | xris: | not all cable does. fcc requires that if *asked*, and you're paying for HD content, they have to provide you with a firewire-capable box to output SD to computers (480p is SD) |
| [10:11:00] | xris: | fcc largely ignores sat stuff for this kind of thing, so the law only applies to cable. |
| [10:11:00] | theturtl_: | why would outputting to a computer be law |
| [10:11:00] | xris: | digital cable in most areas is a big joke, though. half the channels aren't even digital. |
| [10:11:00] | DCG: | xris: they require it because theres tvs that have it |
| [10:11:00] | xris: | theturtl_: so people can be allowed to use their own tivo |
| [10:12:00] | DCG: | if you dont pass HDCP and the channel requires it you dont get 480p |
| [10:12:00] | DCG: | you get nothing. |
| [10:13:00] | theturtl_: | so this is federal law then huh |
| [10:14:00] | theturtl_: | odd law |
| [10:14:00] | xris: | theturtl_: google should turn up plenty of copies of the regularion text. |
| [10:14:00] | xris: | more "regulation" than "law"... not sure what the difference is. |
| [10:14:00] | DCG: | laws are enforced by police/fbi |
| [10:15:00] | DCG: | regulations are enforced with fines |
| [10:15:00] | theturtl_: | haha |
| [10:15:00] | DCG: | you piss off the fcc and they take your wallet |
| [10:15:00] | Cardoe: | DCG is right about the HDCP though |
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| [10:15:00] | DCG: | you piss off the fbi and you goto FPMIAP |
| [10:15:00] | DCG: | federal pound me in arse prison |
| [10:16:00] | xris: | Cardoe: I don't even know what hdcp is. |
| [10:16:00] | theturtl_: | DCG you have lived a trite and meaningless life and you are a VERY bad person |
| [10:16:00] | xris: | tv not important enough for me to go HD |
| [10:16:00] | DCG: | xris: HD Copy Protection |
| [10:16:00] | DCG: | its used to authenticate firewire and dvi equipment |
| [10:16:00] | xris: | odd. thought the firewire thing was all about providing non-copy-protected stream, since only HD content is allowed to be protected that way. |
| [10:16:00] | Agrajag-: | i hear you have a problem with your tps reports DCG |
| [10:16:00] | DCG: | it also encrypts the signal between the two peices of equipment |
| [10:17:00] | DCG: | nope, hdcp is used even for SDTV |
| [10:17:00] | theturtl_: | xris- someone told me once, how xbox sucks for watching dvds, and i should buy some 500$dvd player. I told him, i watch my tv and movies on a 29" 480i tv. I could care less about your 500$ dvd player, xbox works just fine. |
| [10:17:00] | DCG: | try recording HBO, skinemax, etc even in analog with your firewire port and it will fail hdcp and you get a few seconds of video then garbage |
| [10:18:00] | xris: | DCG: no firewire for me. not until Dish adds it, which I'm quite sure they never will. |
| [10:18:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [10:18:00] | DCG: | they using mpeg2 for their codec? |
| [10:18:00] | DCG: | if not then they would have to build extra hardware in |
| [10:19:00] | xris: | DCG: yes, actually. it's dvb |
| [10:19:00] | DCG: | dunno then |
| [10:19:00] | xris: | but they won't because they don't have/want to. |
| [10:19:00] | xris: | no benefit in providing something beneficial to their customers that < 1% would use. |
| [10:19:00] | DCG: | just adds $$$ out of their pocket |
| [10:20:00] | xris: | and tv just isn't that big of a deal to me. I find my 27" tv quite large. |
| [10:20:00] | DCG: | around $5 in parts for every box adds up quick |
| [10:20:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [10:20:00] | theturtl_: | i only brought up firewire, because it sounded like a creative idea to capture video from a dish receiver |
| [10:20:00] | xris: | theturtl_: it's supposedly great for capturing digital cable... |
| [10:20:00] | DCG: | you couldnt remove my 21" sun from my arms even if i was dead |
| [10:20:00] | theturtl_: | with perhaps higher quality than composite/rca input |
| [10:20:00] | xris: | too bad nothing I'd want to record here (if I had digital cable) is digital. scifi and foodtv are both still analog-only. |
| [10:21:00] | DCG: | once you watch 1080p and 720p native on a workstation monitor you can't stand watching it on much else |
| [10:21:00] | DCG: | yea |
| [10:21:00] | xris: | to make matters worse, the original signal *is* digital, and has nasty artifacts... add that to the analog rf interference, and you get a pretty shitty signal. |
| [10:21:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [10:22:00] | xris: | DCG: can't play 1080i on my box — ati driver bug makes half the screen go pink. |
| [10:22:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [10:22:00] | xris: | but I agree, 720p looks pretty nice. I do have an air2pc and a few channels I can record from. |
| [10:22:00] | xris: | but just don't like much on those channels. |
| [10:22:00] | DCG: | onlything i have that can decode 1080p in realtime is a amd64 3000+ |
| [10:23:00] | benw: | I get too much stuttering on the HD digital (SD digital is fine) – I blame my 54Mbps wireless network |
| [10:23:00] | xris: | DCG: nice -0 mythfrontend works fine on my dual 1900+ |
| [10:23:00] | theturtl_: | i don't understand the idea behind OTA hd |
| [10:23:00] | theturtl_: | wh y pay for HD card, when your using an antennae |
| [10:23:00] | theturtl_: | hey wow fuzzy high def! |
| [10:23:00] | DCG: | theturtl_: its for broadcast, and its not fuzzy |
| [10:23:00] | xris: | theturtl_: huh? it's digital.. not fuzzy. |
| [10:24:00] | benw: | antenna is just to pick up the digital signal |
| [10:24:00] | DCG: | you might even get lower bit error count than your cable co |
| [10:24:00] | theturtl_: | ic, so no fuzz eh |
| [10:24:00] | theturtl_: | dumb turtle |
| [10:24:00] | xris: | choppy digital if you have bad reception, but if you have a good signal, it's crystal clear. |
| [10:24:00] | theturtl_: | nm |
| [10:24:00] | benw: | I don't get decoding artifacts when I get aerial positioned roperly |
| [10:24:00] | ** xris wishes there wasn't an airport 2 miles away. ** | |
| [10:24:00] | benw: | and I just a have shitty pair of rabbit ears stuffed down behind the desk |
| [10:24:00] | xris: | actually, more like 3/4 mile straight. |
| [10:25:00] | theturtl_: | are there usb2 cards... |
| [10:25:00] | DCG: | plus with ota dtv, they condensed the frequencys so you dont need a ugly antenna to get the whole spectrum decently |
| [10:25:00] | theturtl_: | would that be possible :D |
| [10:25:00] | theturtl_: | hrmm |
| [10:25:00] | theturtl_: | nm |
| [10:26:00] | xris: | DCG: except that the towers aren't always in the same direction.. but I do get decent reception for nbc, cbs, upn, pbs and wb... |
| [10:26:00] | theturtl_: | i'm wondering what hd content would look like on my 21" sony now |
| [10:26:00] | theturtl_: | :D |
| [10:26:00] | xris: | fox tower, unfortunately is directly on the other side of the airport. I don't even get a HINT of signal, and it's only 12 or so miles away. |
| [10:27:00] | DCG: | heh, there isnt even a digital upn here. |
| [10:27:00] | DCG: | upn is screwed over by a local christian tv station |
| [10:28:00] | DCG: | at 7pm nights when upn stuff airs they tv station plays this "we do not agree with the material shown on UPN but are required by contract to continue showing it" then switches to the upn feed |
| [10:28:00] | DCG: | at the worst possible quality |
| [10:28:00] | theturtl_: | ota hd != dvb-t ? |
| [10:28:00] | DCG: | its worse than VCD quality |
| [10:29:00] | DCG: | ota hd = ATSC |
| [10:29:00] | DCG: | no idea how that relates to dvb-t |
| [10:29:00] | theturtl_: | jus tlooking to see if hauppauge has anything |
| [10:30:00] | xris: | theturtl_: only linux cards are air2pc and pchdtv... and one more I can't remember. |
| [10:30:00] | DCG: | hd2000? |
| [10:30:00] | theturtl_: | myHD |
| [10:30:00] | theturtl_: | ? |
| [10:30:00] | xris: | can't remember... |
| [10:30:00] | xris: | DCG: pchdtv *is* hd2k |
| [10:30:00] | xris: | 2k and 3k |
| [10:31:00] | DCG: | ok |
| [10:31:00] | theturtl_: | hrmm, wow they do make usb atsc receivers |
| [10:31:00] | theturtl_: | hrmm!, hrmm |
| [10:31:00] | DCG: | yea, usb2 |
| [10:31:00] | DCG: | and firewire |
| [10:31:00] | theturtl_: | whatever happened to firewire 2 haha |
| [10:32:00] | xris: | theturtl_: you mean firewire 800? |
| [10:32:00] | DCG: | 1394b? |
| [10:32:00] | DCG: | its around |
| [10:32:00] | DCG: | not many pc mobos implement it |
| [10:32:00] | xris: | theturtl_: they do make usb receivers... but linux compatibility is pretty much not there. |
| [10:33:00] | benw: | they'll probably build it into laptop motherboards before long |
| [10:33:00] | ** xris grumbles... "let's take two plugs and hook them together in parallel so it's twice as fast, and call it a new technology!" ** | |
| [10:33:00] | benw: | so you can have your home entertainment pc / laptop in one thing |
| [10:33:00] | DCG: | i remember seeing a atsc 1394 tuner that used dvhs standard so it in theory should work with mythtv after the channel ctrls are figured out |
| [10:33:00] | theturtl_: | xris ya |
| [10:33:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [10:34:00] | DCG: | xris: that doesnt work with 1394a though, you end up with a switching loop |
| [10:34:00] | xris: | DCG: well, that's basically what fw800 is, though... just double wires for double bandwidth. |
| [10:34:00] | DCG: | and you can only have 63/64 devices on a bus |
| [10:34:00] | DCG: | ah |
| [10:34:00] | theturtl_: | what u mean by, it used the dvhs standard? |
| [10:35:00] | theturtl_: | it took the atsc signal and encoded it into dvhs |
| [10:35:00] | DCG: | the way the firewire stb interface works is the box thinks its talking to a DVHS deck or a tv. |
| [10:35:00] | DCG: | and essentially it acts asif it is a dvhs deck |
| [10:36:00] | xris: | ok, commercial cutting done, finally... now for a week or so of nuvexport... heh. |
| [10:36:00] | DCG: | theres some standalone atsc tuners for use with dvhs decks that have firewire output only, no mpeg2 decoder, no dac, or other garbage |
| [10:37:00] | DCG: | theres also boxes to convert between dvhs and dv |
| [10:40:00] | theturtl_: | ic ic, so your saying the tuner you saw had what sort of output? no way to control it, unlike a PC device |
| [10:41:00] | DCG: | firewire dvhs |
| [10:41:00] | theturtl_: | ic |
| [10:41:00] | DCG: | it essentially looked just like a DCT6200 cable box as far as the dvhs deck / computer were concerned, but thats its only function and it was ATSC only |
| [10:42:00] | DCG: | like lowend / home studio or something |
| [10:42:00] | DCG: | not sure |
| [10:42:00] | DCG: | wasnt too interested in it so i kept browsing |
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| [10:44:00] | DCG: | wth |
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| [10:44:00] | theturtl_: | ic, ya well that'd work fine as long as linux can capture dvhs |
| [10:44:00] | DCG: | wmv files packaged as exes? |
| [10:44:00] | theturtl_: | control could be done thru an ir blaster |
| [10:44:00] | DCG: | i'd expect this garbage from someone other than microsoft |
| [10:45:00] | DCG: | theturtl_: i forget if it was just buttons, ir, or firewire control |
| [10:45:00] | DCG: | it was one or more of those |
| [10:45:00] | laga: | re |
| [10:45:00] | theturtl_: | hrmm, something to google 1394 atsc tuner |
| [10:47:00] | DCG: | wth 1440x1080 wmv doesnt play worth garbage on my amd64 |
| [10:47:00] | DCG: | yet 1920x1080p mpeg2 plays perfect |
| [10:47:00] | ** theturtl_ blames wmp ** | |
| [10:47:00] | xris: | and.... wmv is probably more compressed |
| [10:48:00] | DCG: | not using wmp |
| [10:48:00] | DCG: | using MPC |
| [10:48:00] | theturtl_: | you could buy a new ati card for hardware decompression |
| [10:48:00] | DCG: | screw that |
| [10:48:00] | theturtl_: | :) |
| [10:48:00] | DCG: | i've got a 6800 gt |
| [10:49:00] | DCG: | not gonna get a new card till the gf8x00 or ati makes a card that doesnt crash on nvidia boards |
| [10:50:00] | DCG: | last 2 runs of radeons i've got were garbage |
| [10:50:00] | DCG: | 3 out of 4 cards would reliably crash any system they were put in |
| [10:50:00] | theturtl_: | at least i think it can do some sort of HD decoding in hardware, i forget now |
| [10:51:00] | DCG: | rma'ed and got back the same cards with "no issues found" |
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| [10:51:00] | DCG: | then again i've still not forgiven nvidia for screwing me on my voodoo purchases |
| [10:52:00] | theturtl_: | hehe |
| [10:52:00] | theturtl_: | there's always matrox |
| [10:52:00] | DCG: | they have their own problems |
| [10:52:00] | DCG: | i don't need a 4 head card with garbage 3d |
| [10:53:00] | DCG: | or one with decent 3d but $2k price |
| [10:54:00] | theturtl_: | u know u want hardware m-jpeg capture |
| [10:54:00] | DCG: | eww mjpeg |
| [10:55:00] | theturtl_: | there's way too many acronyms in the a/v industry |
| [10:55:00] | DCG: | like smpte? |
| [10:55:00] | theturtl_: | either lets start making up some memorable short names, or start calling things doohickey or something |
| [10:56:00] | theturtl_: | haha |
| [10:57:00] | theturtl_: | ya well lets go shoot all of them |
| [10:58:00] | DCG: | how about AES/EBU, BetaCAM, SDI, TOSLink, SPDI/F, XLR, PDP, DTV, SDTV, EDTV, RDTV |
| [10:58:00] | ldam: | When using the tv-out on a pvr350 card – is it possible to let mythtv show it's menu there, instead of the normal monitor output? |
| [10:59:00] | laga: | ldam: of course. |
| [10:59:00] | ldam: | i.e. it's annoying i have to change input on the tv everytime i change between viewing and the menu :/ |
| [10:59:00] | laga: | ldam: just start mythfrontend on this display |
| [10:59:00] | DCG: | TBC my BNC so i can SVHS my PVR for DVR |
| [11:00:00] | ldam: | hm. the tv out on the pvr350 is not a normal gfx card – it's a mpeg2 (or 4?) encoder output |
| [11:00:00] | laga: | tubercolusosis your bouncer so you can...wtf? |
| [11:00:00] | ldam: | i wonder how i would let that become a normal display |
| [11:00:00] | laga: | ldam: i know. but it's possible to have an X display on the pvr 350. |
| [11:01:00] | ldam: | laga, ok. I'll look into it. Just wanted to be sure before starting a gooschaes ;) |
| [11:01:00] | laga: | ldam: :) |
| [11:01:00] | ldam: | can't even spell, but thanks :) |
| [11:01:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [11:03:00] | ldam: | ha. Just needed the proper keywords: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_X_windows_thr . . . e_350_TV_Out |
| [11:03:00] | laga: | afk, breakfast. |
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| [11:07:00] | anxt: | my PVR is PITA make my box HANG |
| [11:07:00] | laga: | BBH |
| [11:09:00] | ldam: | anxt, i had some funny problems – pvr suddenly made all b/w and off-tune after a few hours of usage. Found it was a heating problem |
| [11:10:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [11:10:00] | DCG: | my backend is at a cool 30'C |
| [11:10:00] | ldam: | a cooler directly on the board made it ok |
| [11:11:00] | DCG: | frontend though runs a balmy 48'C |
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| [11:14:00] | theturtl_: | i wonder is there sucha device for the pc that can capture atsc & analog :/ |
| [11:15:00] | DCG: | yes |
| [11:15:00] | DCG: | myhd dual tuner atsc & ntsc |
| [11:15:00] | DCG: | records 2 ntsc or 2 atsc or 1 of each |
| [11:17:00] | theturtl_: | well usb too haha |
| [11:17:00] | theturtl_: | my pc here at work is padlocked :P |
| [11:17:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [11:17:00] | DCG: | what kind of lock? |
| [11:17:00] | DCG: | if its just a tube key those are friggin easy to open |
| [11:17:00] | theturtl_: | run of the mill master padlock |
| [11:18:00] | DCG: | ah |
| [11:18:00] | DCG: | i dunno how to pick those |
| [11:18:00] | DCG: | i know how to pick kensington laptop locks though :) |
| [11:18:00] | DCG: | peice of toilet paper tube |
| [11:18:00] | DCG: | cut 1" square to make your own key |
| [11:18:00] | DCG: | fit it in the lock and turn |
| [11:19:00] | theturtl_: | lol |
| [11:19:00] | DCG: | yea |
| [11:19:00] | theturtl_: | thats secure! |
| [11:19:00] | DCG: | i've been tempting my friend to steal someone's mac mini at his work |
| [11:20:00] | DCG: | they "lent" some employees mac minis (that are cable locked to their desks) |
| [11:20:00] | DCG: | its the employee's responsibility to keep their mini from being stolen |
| [11:20:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [11:20:00] | theturtl_: | i heard a rumor that there's hacks out now to run macos on x86 |
| [11:20:00] | cochi|away is now known as cochi | |
| [11:20:00] | DCG: | not rumor |
| [11:20:00] | laga: | digg.com has it |
| [11:21:00] | DCG: | i was gonna down the image but 1.3GB is a lot to grabb |
| [11:21:00] | DCG: | even over torrent it was gonna be 8 hours |
| [11:21:00] | laga: | hey, keep it legal ;) |
| [11:21:00] | DCG: | and i dont feel like being reamed by apple legal again any time soon |
| [11:21:00] | theturtl_: | i could put it up on the web for ya haha |
| [11:21:00] | DCG: | hehe |
| [11:22:00] | theturtl_: | i'd like that comment stricken from the record please |
| [11:22:00] | DCG: | more likely i'll goto a wifi hotspot and park my car for 8hrs while it downloads :P |
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| [11:22:00] | theturtl_: | anyhoo, ya i've NEVER used macos |
| [11:22:00] | Uberbot: | Hi all. |
| [11:22:00] | theturtl_: | or any mac since apple iie |
| [11:22:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [11:22:00] | DCG: | i've run 10.1 but that was a painful experience |
| [11:22:00] | Uberbot: | What is the chance of running a Myth front end on a Sunray thinclient? |
| [11:22:00] | DCG: | no drivers for the ethernet card in pearpc |
| [11:23:00] | DCG: | Uberbot: is it an X server or VNC client? |
| [11:23:00] | Uberbot: | X server. |
| [11:23:00] | DCG: | then you can run it but you wont get usable video |
| [11:23:00] | Uberbot: | No? |
| [11:23:00] | Uberbot: | I know vnc won't work..... |
| [11:23:00] | DCG: | unless you can somehow stream the video to the terminal |
| [11:24:00] | Uberbot: | The sunray is an X windows server, so I'm thinking a windows manager would display on it.... ? |
| [11:24:00] | DCG: | yes |
| [11:24:00] | DCG: | but the bandwidth is lacking for the video |
| [11:25:00] | Uberbot: | The pixel updates? |
| [11:25:00] | Uberbot: | As opposed to a simple mp4 file transfer. Right? |
| [11:25:00] | DCG: | you'd be filling the ethernet between the mythbox and the terminal |
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| [11:26:00] | DCG: | video alone will require 9.2/18.4 MB/s |
| [11:26:00] | DCG: | not including tcp/ip, and x protocol overhead |
| [11:26:00] | Uberbot: | How do you get that number? |
| [11:27:00] | DCG: | 640x480 @ 30fps, 8bpp/16bpp |
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| [11:27:00] | Uberbot: | Ok. |
| [11:28:00] | Uberbot: | Seemed like a cheep way of getting a pvr in the bedroom. My wife likes the pvr so much she wants to watch it in bed. |
| [11:28:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [11:28:00] | DCG: | try an xbox. |
| [11:28:00] | Uberbot: | $200? |
| [11:28:00] | DCG: | yea |
| [11:29:00] | DCG: | well, less than that |
| [11:29:00] | DCG: | grab a used xbox |
| [11:29:00] | benw: | only tv that should be on in the bedroom is porn |
| [11:29:00] | DCG: | date somewhere in 2002–2003 range for date |
| [11:29:00] | Uberbot: | The porn isn't on the tv.... |
| [11:29:00] | laga: | Uberbot: have you tried the mediamvp yet? |
| [11:29:00] | Uberbot: | Used xbox. I'll look around. |
| [11:30:00] | Uberbot: | I've never heard of mediamvp. |
| [11:30:00] | DCG: | then you solder 2 points, flash the bios to cromwell, install xebian with the instructions from http://bit.blkbk.com/ |
| [11:30:00] | laga: | Uberbot: mvpmc.sf.net |
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| [11:30:00] | DCG: | you should be able to get an xbox setup for $150 or less |
| [11:33:00] | Uberbot: | mediamvp will run under windows? My wife has a laptop..... |
| [11:33:00] | DCG: | mediamvp is a hardware device |
| [11:33:00] | benw: | It'd be nice if there was a myth for windows that actually worked |
| [11:33:00] | DCG: | if you want to use the laptop you can boot knoppmyth/minimyth on it |
| [11:33:00] | benw: | winmyth has failed everytime I've tried it |
| [11:33:00] | DCG: | (well try to atleast) |
| [11:34:00] | DCG: | yea |
| [11:34:00] | DCG: | winmyth 18.3 gives me some error saying my DSMyth config is wrong |
| [11:34:00] | Uberbot: | Ya, I'll just give her a KnoppMyth CD. |
| [11:34:00] | theturtl_: | will a media mvpa work with myth? |
| [11:35:00] | Uberbot: | Says it will. |
| [11:35:00] | DCG: | if knoppmyth works, you'll want to make a custom cd that doesnt require configuration |
| [11:35:00] | Uberbot: | ya. |
| [11:35:00] | Uberbot: | One that CAN NOT format the drive..... :-O |
| [11:35:00] | DCG: | theturtl_: with replacement firmware it will work without a windows server |
| [11:35:00] | DCG: | well i ment one that knows your mythtv server address and just boots to frontend mode |
| [11:36:00] | Uberbot: | I understood you. |
| [11:36:00] | DCG: | again, that assumes your laptop's video out is supported |
| [11:36:00] | DCG: | any idea what video chip? |
| [11:36:00] | Uberbot: | It's a recent Dell.... |
| [11:36:00] | DCG: | if its nvidia it should be easy |
| [11:36:00] | benw: | heh, so a random video card |
| [11:36:00] | DCG: | if its ati it will be a pita |
| [11:36:00] | harryman100: | Hi, I have a problem whenever I run mythtv-setup, I get "QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded QSqlDatabase: available drivers:", however I have recompiled QT with -plugin-sql-mysql but that doesn't seem to make a difference, |
| [11:36:00] | Uberbot: | No Idea. |
| [11:36:00] | DCG: | if its s3 then it will be easy but i dont think you will get XV |
| [11:37:00] | DCG: | harryman100: you have dependancy issues. |
| [11:37:00] | benw: | harryman100: you might want to make sure mysql-devel etc are loaded |
| [11:37:00] | Uberbot: | Ya. I'll just hack a KnoppMyth CD. |
| [11:38:00] | Uberbot: | Thanx guys. |
| [11:38:00] | DCG: | good luck |
| [11:38:00] | harryman100: | benw: as in the standard mysql dev stuff, it should be there as I have the mysql-max installation, however, I'll check on that |
| [11:39:00] | laga: | Uberbot: greyfoxx has a mythfrontend-on-usbstick in the works |
| [11:41:00] | harryman100: | all the header files for mysql are there, is it likely to to help if I do -I/usr/local/mysql/include when I compile mythtv? I already did that when I recompiled QT |
| [11:42:00] | laga: | harryman100: why not? ;) |
| [11:42:00] | harryman100: | I'll give it a try |
| [11:43:00] | Uberbot: | laga, nice to know..... |
| [11:49:00] | theturtl_: | are most atsc tuners not able to record in hd format? |
| [11:50:00] | k-man: | is there a way to get the EPG to show the Day of the week? |
| [11:50:00] | k-man: | currently it shows the date and time, but not the day |
| [11:50:00] | DCG: | theturtl_: an atsc tuner card just dumps out the mpeg2 data, they should handle the 10mbit highdef streams fine. |
| [11:51:00] | theturtl_: | i need a usb2 atsc/analog tuner, that does hardware h.264 encoding HAHA |
| [11:51:00] | theturtl_: | now that'd be neat |
| [11:52:00] | DCG: | uhm, no |
| [11:52:00] | theturtl_: | dcg i was just reading, this card from avermedia will only record at 720x480 ntsc |
| [11:52:00] | theturtl_: | :/ |
| [11:52:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [11:52:00] | DCG: | thats not an atsc tuner then. |
| [11:52:00] | theturtl_: | nah its atsc, it displays up to 1080p |
| [11:53:00] | theturtl_: | 1080i |
| [11:53:00] | DCG: | displays. |
| [11:54:00] | DCG: | but if it captures only 720x480 then its an analog capture. |
| [11:54:00] | DCG: | or a marketing dweeb forgot to read the specs from the engineers |
| [11:54:00] | laga: | they never do that |
| [11:55:00] | theturtl_: | nothing broadcasted is true uncompressed HD i imagine |
| [11:56:00] | theturtl_: | i dunno, it just says it can do video capture at 720x480 hah |
| [11:56:00] | theturtl_: | i just thought that was odd, obviously you agree |
| [11:56:00] | DCG: | that has to be the analog capture |
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| [11:58:00] | theturtl_: | aren't echostar and directv supposed to switch to h.264 "soon" |
| [11:59:00] | theturtl_: | i thnik someone told me that sky in UK is h.264 |
| [11:59:00] | chris: | Is SVN the only way to get mythgame up and running with all the emulators? |
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| [12:02:00] | DCG: | so how do i transcode a show? |
| [12:02:00] | chris: | do you have nuvexport? |
| [12:03:00] | chris: | or mencoder? |
| [12:03:00] | DCG: | dunno, i'll see |
| [12:03:00] | DCG: | both |
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| [12:03:00] | chris: | you could do mencoder inputvile.nuv -ovc xvid -oac mp3lame -xvidendopts etc etc etc -o outputfile.avi |
| [12:03:00] | DCG: | isnt there something builtin |
| [12:04:00] | chris: | xvidencopts I mean |
| [12:04:00] | DCG: | i assume thats why theres a transcoders option in recording profiles |
| [12:04:00] | laga: | DCG: nuvexport. |
| [12:04:00] | chris: | yeah that's what it's there for. |
| [12:04:00] | chris: | I haven't used it thoguh |
| [12:04:00] | chris: | I just compiled nuvexport tonight myself. |
| [12:06:00] | chris: | I think my video is captured from my tv tuner too dark... either that or I'm playing it back too dark.. how would I know? |
| [12:06:00] | anxt: | i had problems with avifile |
| [12:06:00] | chris: | I have a hauppauge 500mce |
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| [12:06:00] | anxt: | what is your problem |
| [12:07:00] | anxt: | how does your video look on amachine you know |
| [12:07:00] | anxt: | ie cap video |
| [12:07:00] | anxt: | play it does it look good |
| [12:07:00] | k-man: | anyone know how to build a band stop filter? |
| [12:07:00] | anxt: | yep |
| [12:07:00] | anxt: | sure do |
| [12:07:00] | anxt: | i belive |
| [12:08:00] | anxt: | 1/2sqr(2lc) |
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| [12:08:00] | anxt: | or |
| [12:08:00] | anxt: | 0.r((2lc))^2 |
| [12:08:00] | anxt: | l == henries c = cap |
| [12:08:00] | k-man: | anxt, oh |
| [12:08:00] | k-man: | cool |
| [12:08:00] | anxt: | figure out standard values i dunno |
| [12:09:00] | anxt: | it is not hard |
| [12:09:00] | anxt: | read the formula |
| [12:09:00] | k-man: | were can i read up on it? |
| [12:09:00] | chris: | anxt: well when I have the television turned on NBC... and then I plug the computer into the back of the tv and see what NBC looks like after it gets encoded... in general it looks dark and grayish. |
| [12:09:00] | anxt: | you mean a filter to bloack a specific freq? |
| [12:09:00] | anxt: | arrl |
| [12:09:00] | k-man: | how do i set the center frequency and the bandwidth i want to stop |
| [12:09:00] | k-man: | yeah |
| [12:09:00] | anxt: | handbook should be in every public library |
| [12:09:00] | k-man: | we live near the ABC transmitter |
| [12:10:00] | k-man: | and its blowing the transistors off my DVB card |
| [12:10:00] | anxt: | get close with one vale and fuck with c |
| [12:10:00] | k-man: | hmm |
| [12:10:00] | k-man: | ok |
| [12:10:00] | anxt: | i can find a link |
| [12:10:00] | anxt: | just look for tank circuits |
| [12:10:00] | anxt: | or |
| [12:10:00] | anxt: | rather |
| [12:10:00] | anxt: | NOTCH FILTERS |
| [12:11:00] | anxt: | the formula i said would ring at freq |
| [12:11:00] | anxt: | not stop it |
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| [12:12:00] | fatmatt: | this is weird, mythtv box is down, /home/mythtv is missing, when I ran fsck its moved a lot of stuff into lost & found |
| [12:12:00] | anxt: | that said a safety pin at those freq has an incderbile reactance |
| [12:13:00] | k-man: | notch filters |
| [12:13:00] | DCG: | .sql = subtitles? |
| [12:13:00] | k-man: | hmm |
| [12:14:00] | DCG: | or is that the sql data to import it back into the db? |
| [12:15:00] | anxt: | k-man you know a freq you want to stop? |
| [12:15:00] | anxt: | like channel 7 or somethinf>? |
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| [12:18:00] | k-man: | yeah |
| [12:18:00] | fatmatt: | maybe my box was hacked? |
| [12:18:00] | k-man: | 226500000 |
| [12:18:00] | k-man: | hz |
| [12:18:00] | DCG: | fatmatt: or was powered off while recording and it lost alot of data in the process |
| [12:19:00] | fatmatt: | DCG: thats a lot of data, mysqladmin and a bunch of stuff like that is gone somewhere, mind you, it could have happened |
| [12:19:00] | anxt: | 226.5 mhz? |
| [12:20:00] | anxt: | what is that like channel 15? |
| [12:20:00] | fatmatt: | where does mysql keep its database files? |
| [12:21:00] | anxt: | depends on yer sql install |
| [12:21:00] | anxt: | /var/mysql isn't uncommon |
| [12:21:00] | anxt: | /var/lib/mysql isn't uncommon |
| [12:22:00] | anxt: | how could you be "hacked" |
| [12:22:00] | anxt: | that isn't very common |
| [12:22:00] | anxt: | do you have shit open that you don't understand? |
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| [12:23:00] | anxt: | ie ftp nfs mounts |
| [12:23:00] | DCG: | anxt: he joined the group of people who left their mythweb install open and someone used google inurl:/mythweb/recorded_programs.php to find his easily hacked box. |
| [12:23:00] | anxt: | apache? |
| [12:23:00] | laga: | and WTF is your mythtv box directly connected to the net? ;) |
| [12:23:00] | anxt: | omigosh |
| [12:23:00] | anxt: | well |
| [12:23:00] | fatmatt: | anxt: theres a nat firewall, about the only thing open through that is a port forwarded ssh, |
| [12:24:00] | DCG: | though i wanna know how google gets past authentication. |
| [12:24:00] | fatmatt: | so I don't think I've been hacked, just bouncing ideas around |
| [12:24:00] | anxt: | well then it is doubtful you were hacked |
| [12:24:00] | DCG: | time and time again i find sites using basic auth that are indexed by google |
| [12:24:00] | anxt: | yah |
| [12:25:00] | anxt: | back in the day |
| [12:25:00] | fatmatt: | trying to find a backup of the database, would be nice if I didn't have to reinstall completely |
| [12:25:00] | anxt: | altavista |
| [12:25:00] | anxt: | there was an article about sploiting .co.jp |
| [12:25:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [12:25:00] | anxt: | or rather .ac.jp |
| [12:25:00] | anxt: | for shells |
| [12:26:00] | anxt: | prolly .co.jp too |
| [12:26:00] | DCG: | i love those panasonic cameras that are so easy to google for |
| [12:26:00] | anxt: | just cause you are in business doesn't make you smart or aware |
| [12:26:00] | k-man: | anxt, ABC Sydeny |
| [12:26:00] | k-man: | sydney |
| [12:26:00] | k-man: | i have to block it out |
| [12:26:00] | DCG: | i got some guy in a laundrymat in japan so mad he started beating on the camera |
| [12:26:00] | k-man: | as we live too close to the tower i think |
| [12:27:00] | DCG: | i was pan & tilting the camera following him around the laundry mat |
| [12:27:00] | k-man: | and its reception is poor unless i attenuate it |
| [12:27:00] | k-man: | channel 12 |
| [12:27:00] | k-man: | 226.5 Mhz |
| [12:27:00] | k-man: | i think its a 7Mhz Bandwidth |
| [12:27:00] | anxt: | no |
| [12:27:00] | anxt: | like 4.5 mhz |
| [12:27:00] | anxt: | 50% on either side |
| [12:27:00] | anxt: | iirc |
| [12:27:00] | k-man: | yeah |
| [12:28:00] | k-man: | total 7Mhz |
| [12:28:00] | k-man: | i htink |
| [12:28:00] | k-man: | as i read |
| [12:28:00] | anxt: | i am drunk and being a know it all |
| [12:28:00] | anxt: | so my data is prolly crap |
| [12:28:00] | anxt: | colorburst and a bit |
| [12:28:00] | anxt: | whatever that meanty |
| [12:28:00] | anxt: | fuck am i high |
| [12:29:00] | anxt: | i can hardly see or think |
| [12:30:00] | anxt: | can i tell a useless storey |
| [12:30:00] | anxt: | -- |
| [12:30:00] | anxt: | i used to do a lot of pills and shit |
| [12:30:00] | k-man: | oh |
| [12:30:00] | k-man: | well |
| [12:31:00] | anxt: | and now i work at a church in the inner city |
| [12:31:00] | k-man: | i have to go and get some dinner |
| [12:31:00] | anxt: | so today i ran into my old morphine dealer |
| [12:31:00] | anxt: | and gave him a takeout |
| [12:31:00] | anxt: | ie free meal cause i wouldn't let him in cause he was high |
| [12:31:00] | anxt: | -- |
| [12:31:00] | anxt: | end useless story |
| [12:32:00] | anxt: | small world |
| [12:32:00] | anxt: | that said, i am quite intelligent |
| [12:32:00] | anxt: | but a mesa atm |
| [12:34:00] | laga: | time for another beer ;) |
| [12:36:00] | anxt: | fuck i think my slut dog is preganant again |
| [12:36:00] | anxt: | i am gonna hafta shoot it next time |
| [12:36:00] | DCG: | ok, i'm leaving if that talk keeps up. |
| [12:36:00] | ** anxt swears it isn't his ** | |
| [12:37:00] | anxt: | i am done |
| [12:37:00] | anxt: | forgot this was a normal channel |
| [12:37:00] | anxt: | i will be good now |
| [12:37:00] | anxt: | :( |
| [12:38:00] | anxt: | simple q |
| [12:38:00] | anxt: | if i am using say 0.3.7 |
| [12:38:00] | anxt: | do i need to path anything for xorg 6.8.2 |
| [12:38:00] | anxt: | s/path/patch |
| [12:38:00] | anxt: | or just use the binary driver included |
| [12:39:00] | anxt: | cause every time i try and run it i get ass heaps or error in logs then hard lock |
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| [12:39:00] | anxt: | sorry DCG |
| [12:39:00] | anxt: | i do have seriouser q too |
| [12:40:00] | anxt: | and for a myth q |
| [12:40:00] | anxt: | "audio buffer overflow, audio data lost" |
| [12:40:00] | anxt: | mythfrontend in console |
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| [12:41:00] | DCG: | what sound chip? |
| [12:41:00] | DCG: | via686? |
| [12:42:00] | anxt: | 1010lt |
| [12:42:00] | anxt: | envy24 |
| [12:42:00] | DCG: | never heard of it |
| [12:43:00] | anxt: | i think it is called |
| [12:43:00] | anxt: | it is a pimp sound card |
| [12:43:00] | anxt: | 10 in 10 out |
| [12:43:00] | DCG: | its not made by those ppl that make the echo/darla/gina? |
| [12:43:00] | anxt: | you see i like to thin kof myself as a "musician: |
| [12:43:00] | anxt: | via branded it last i think |
| [12:43:00] | DCG: | O_O |
| [12:43:00] | anxt: | either that or i got an ICH5 i think on board |
| [12:44:00] | DCG: | yea, its a via board |
| [12:44:00] | DCG: | which explains why it has clock problems |
| [12:44:00] | anxt: | i have had it work with myth for several months |
| [12:44:00] | anxt: | then it went south |
| [12:44:00] | DCG: | dunno |
| [12:44:00] | anxt: | do you have an idea |
| [12:44:00] | anxt: | k thx tho |
| [12:44:00] | DCG: | i just know i hate via's sound chips |
| [12:45:00] | anxt: | i could pull it and see if i got the same problems on board |
| [12:45:00] | anxt: | i want the card for recording |
| [12:45:00] | DCG: | the via686b onboard audio on my K7TM board is garbage |
| [12:45:00] | DCG: | hence my use of the ymf724 |
| [12:45:00] | anxt: | but i could make a separte box for that if necesasary |
| [12:45:00] | DCG: | the onboard audio is garunteed to crash windows and linux |
| [12:46:00] | anxt: | but the sound from the card went it works is beautfdiule |
| [12:46:00] | DCG: | on linux it doesnt so much crash as loose sync and start crackling then you get nothing but static after a while |
| [12:46:00] | anxt: | seriously it is much better than the onboard on my old k7s5a |
| [12:46:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [12:46:00] | DCG: | in windows with the onboard audio i had it crash anytime i wanted to use 3d and the onboard audio |
| [12:47:00] | DCG: | so i'd launch a game and boom it reboots |
| [12:47:00] | anxt: | nicely done |
| [12:47:00] | DCG: | stupid msi/via for putting the agp on the same irq as the onboard sound |
| [12:47:00] | anxt: | i dunno if it is shit os or shit hardware |
| [12:47:00] | anxt: | nicely done |
| [12:47:00] | anxt: | pci shit pisses me off |
| [12:47:00] | DCG: | yea |
| [12:47:00] | anxt: | i had 4 things on irq11 on myu old board |
| [12:48:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [12:48:00] | anxt: | nic and sound and one ivtv and usb |
| [12:48:00] | DCG: | that might be curable |
| [12:48:00] | DCG: | turn off some option, pnpos maybe |
| [12:48:00] | anxt: | i fucked with pci latency and some other shit and managed to get it down to 2 things per irq |
| [12:48:00] | anxt: | but irq 9 and 10 were unuised |
| [12:48:00] | DCG: | i always had to change some setting in w98 to keep irqsharing from happening |
| [12:48:00] | anxt: | so i went and bought a new board |
| [12:49:00] | anxt: | after the bois boots i dont think you have much say |
| [12:49:00] | anxt: | right now i have one ivtv on irq 3 i think |
| [12:49:00] | anxt: | nic on irq 4 |
| [12:49:00] | DCG: | actually theres lots of stuff you can do if the os supports changing the pci tables |
| [12:50:00] | anxt: | ok that is new to me |
| [12:50:00] | anxt: | that can be done in linux too? |
| [12:50:00] | DCG: | in theory |
| [12:50:00] | DCG: | i've not done it ever though |
| [12:50:00] | anxt: | k |
| [12:50:00] | anxt: | apic? |
| [12:50:00] | DCG: | cause it has to be done very early in boot |
| [12:51:00] | anxt: | i looked in source for my soundcard and saw no place to force it |
| [12:51:00] | anxt: | but i am a useless programmer |
| [12:51:00] | DCG: | it wont be there |
| [12:51:00] | anxt: | earlier? |
| [12:51:00] | DCG: | yea |
| [12:51:00] | DCG: | i forget where the stuff is, but its normally disabled on x86 linux kernels |
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| [12:52:00] | DCG: | i think the best way to do it was turn off pnpos in bios |
| [12:52:00] | DCG: | iirc that stopped irq sharing |
| [12:53:00] | DCG: | right now on my amd64 i'm seeing the onboard ethernet+usb, sata+audio, 1394+wifi are the only things sharing irqs |
| [12:54:00] | DCG: | and irq 2,3,5,6,7,11,12,19 are unused |
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| [12:56:00] | DCG: | and i still have this darn unknown device in device manager |
| [12:59:00] | anxt: | not on my boards |
| [12:59:00] | anxt: | but i tried thast |
| [12:59:00] | anxt: | nzb files rule |
| [12:59:00] | anxt: | system of a down in edmonton |
| [12:59:00] | DCG: | ah, figured out what the device was |
| [12:59:00] | anxt: | 50$ i think |
| [12:59:00] | anxt: | i don't wanna pay it |
| [12:59:00] | anxt: | i need someone to take me |
| [12:59:00] | DCG: | some stupid garbage for asus's aibooster |
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| [13:00:00] | anxt: | windows |
| [13:00:00] | anxt: | ? |
| [13:00:00] | laga: | SOAD sucks ;) |
| [13:00:00] | DCG: | yea |
| [13:00:00] | anxt: | like i said |
| [13:00:00] | anxt: | i need someone ot take me |
| [13:00:00] | anxt: | like you laga |
| [13:00:00] | anxt: | i got nice ____ |
| [13:01:00] | laga: | i'm so not going to a SOAD concert. i don't even live in the USA. |
| [13:01:00] | anxt: | i don't liv ein usa either |
| [13:02:00] | laga: | canada, ic. |
| [13:03:00] | anxt: | yah |
| [13:03:00] | anxt: | tuner type 39 |
| [13:03:00] | anxt: | lol |
| [13:03:00] | anxt: | lg-ntsc |
| [13:03:00] | anxt: | oh wait this is myth |
| [13:03:00] | anxt: | nm |
| [13:05:00] | ** anxt heaps fermented cabbage on the head of his hotdogz ** | |
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| [13:10:00] | DCG: | heh, someone wants a mythfrontend on psp |
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| [13:10:00] | DCG: | maybe if the codecs were ported already and you could get decent streaming over wifi and the wep actually worked... |
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| [13:31:00] | harryman100: | Hi, |
| [13:34:00] | harryman100: | I've been having loads of problems getting mythtv to work, it compiles fine, but everytime I run it I get an error "QSqlDatabase warning: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded", I have re-compiled QT with -plugin-sql-mysql several times and mythtv several times, but it always seems to fail to work, When I do ./configure --help for QT, next to the plugin-sql part it says "Autodetected on this system: sqlite" suggesting that it' |
| [13:34:00] | harryman100: | s not finding mysql, does anyone know what it's looking for. I have the mysql headers in /usr/local/mysql/include |
| [13:35:00] | anxt: | gentoo? |
| [13:35:00] | harryman100: | slack |
| [13:36:00] | anxt: | can you pass the location of that in ./configure? |
| [13:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | harryman100: Check /etc/ld.so.conf and see if the path to the QT plugins dir is in there. I had to add a entry for /usr/lib/qt/plugins/sqldrivers |
| [13:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Plus make sure that libmysqlclient is somewhere on the path since the QT libswill want to load that |
| [13:37:00] | anxt: | good call GreyFoxx |
| [13:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | The stock QT that comes with Slackware will work, it has the plugin library. Just need to point ld.so.conf to the right place |
| [13:38:00] | harryman100: | I have tried that, but it doesn't appear to work, HOWEVER, I've just tried "./configure -I /usr/local/mysql/include/ -L /usr/local/mysql/lib/ --help" and this time it says "Autodetected on this system: mysql, sqlite" so I'm going to try compiling with those options, I'll be back in as much time as it takes to compile QT... cheers for the suggestions |
| [13:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | harryman100: The QT that came with Slackware would have done the job. With mysql libraries available all it woulod need is that entry |
| [13:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | but have fun, compiling QT does take a while |
| [13:40:00] | harryman100: | GreyFoxx: I no longer have that, as I upgraded to QT4 a while ago, so I'm going to try with that first, and then if that fails go back to the stock slack QT |
| [13:40:00] | anxt: | as long as it isn't in /opt |
| [13:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | QT4 will very likely NOT work with Mythtv |
| [13:41:00] | anxt: | what the fuck is /opt |
| [13:41:00] | anxt: | i hate /opt |
| [13:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Some big code changes need to be done to support QT4 |
| [13:41:00] | anxt: | i am using 3.3.4 i think |
| [13:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | /opt is very common on Solaris, for some reason KDE is often there |
| [13:42:00] | anxt: | i don't see the poijnt of opt |
| [13:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's a location for locally compiled/installed apps that are not part of the base OS. kind of like their version of /usr/local/ |
| [13:42:00] | anxt: | but that is preference i guess |
| [13:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | exactly |
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| [13:43:00] | anxt: | i would use rahter /drunk |
| [13:43:00] | harryman100: | ok, I've just noticed that I have qt3.3.4 installed anyway, so I'm going to try using that |
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| [13:43:00] | anxt: | evrything i comp[iled when drunk |
| [13:43:00] | anxt: | would go in /drunkl |
| [13:44:00] | anxt: | i like to minimize symlinks |
| [13:44:00] | anxt: | so if i wanna clean shit up i can find it :) |
| [13:45:00] | anxt: | can you still d/l solaris 8 for fun? |
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| [13:46:00] | anxt: | i love obsd but i don't like the naming scheme |
| [13:46:00] | anxt: | well i guess it makes sense |
| [13:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I often install addon apps into /pub/appname. So removal is a simple rm -rf /pub/appname |
| [13:46:00] | anxt: | that is oldscool |
| [13:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been doing this for a while :) |
| [13:49:00] | benw: | I had to do dodgy symlinks of x11 libs into /usr/lib to keep mythuitest happy |
| [13:49:00] | benw: | dunno why it didn't have the correct includes already |
| [13:51:00] | anxt: | i really really hate the notion of burying shit in multiple directories in /etc |
| [13:51:00] | anxt: | and i wonder what dan bernstein wqas thinking with /var |
| [13:51:00] | anxt: | /var/opt/bin |
| [13:51:00] | anxt: | but i will shut up now :) |
| [13:51:00] | anxt: | gn |
| [13:51:00] | anxt: | sleep required |
| [13:51:00] | anxt: | sun is up in my area |
| [13:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | anxt: db is a nut anyway |
| [13:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | er djb that is :) |
| [13:54:00] | benw: | hehe true true |
| [13:54:00] | benw: | I like daemontools |
| [13:54:00] | benw: | but his inane licensing means it's not distributable under normal distros like suse/redhat |
| [13:54:00] | ** GreyFoxx firesoff a download and hugs his cable modem ** | |
| [13:54:00] | benw: | so if I want to use it, I have to write install instruction |
| [14:02:00] | laga: | re |
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| [14:19:00] | harryman100: | Ok, I still get the same QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded error, I have added /usr/local/mysql/lib to my path, and /etc/ld.so.conf, but that didn't make any difference |
| [14:20:00] | harryman100: | does anyone have any other suggestions |
| [14:21:00] | harryman100: | I noticed that in /usr/local/mysql/lib there is no libmysqlclient.so, there is only libmysqlclient.a what's the difference, and could this be causing the problem? |
| [14:21:00] | Dibblah: | .a is the static lib. |
| [14:21:00] | Tommck: | .so is a shared lib.... .a is a static lib |
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| [14:24:00] | harryman100: | hmm, do you know why I might not have the shared one? |
| [14:26:00] | benw: | I'd probably do an strace |
| [14:26:00] | benw: | see what it is trying to load |
| [14:27:00] | benw: | or do ldd myth-setup |
| [14:27:00] | benw: | to see if it is linked in properly |
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| [14:28:00] | harryman100: | benw: there is no mysql libs in ldd mythtv-setup, is that a problem? |
| [14:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | no, but I would imagine the QT plugin wants a libmysqlclient.so to load |
| [14:30:00] | benw: | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/MUuHcL91.html |
| [14:30:00] | benw: | that's what I get, no mysql |
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| [14:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythtv doesn't link to mysql. IT links to QT which links to mysql :) |
| [14:31:00] | harryman100: | benw: that looks the same as what I have |
| [14:31:00] | benw: | harryman100: what distribution are you using? os wise |
| [14:32:00] | benw: | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/X3TqEL78.html |
| [14:32:00] | benw: | try rpm -qa | grep qt |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | harryman100: I've never used the stock mysql that comes with slackware. I've always installed it myself, so I've never noticed if they provide a shared mysqlclient.so or not |
| [14:32:00] | benw: | if you are on an rpm based install |
| [14:34:00] | harryman100: | GreyFoxx: I've installed it myself as well, but I've just spotted on the mysql site that they offer a static and a dynamic version seperately, so I'm downloading the dynamic version now |
| [14:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never used a package for it. I've always compiledit manually. But adynamic version sounds likeit should have what you need |
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| [14:35:00] | benw: | what about the qt libs? |
| [14:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | If he is using the stock slackware ones they are fine. They are compiled as shared libs |
| [14:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | including the mysql plugin |
| [14:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | all that is required is a shared mysql library and ensuring that they are both found on the LD path |
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| [14:38:00] | _dave: | heya. i've got ubuntu, and have been loosing hair trying to get the damn thing to work. all the problems are arising from required packages being a different version to that required, but the thing is i've got the most recent versions. |
| [14:38:00] | _dave: | how can i get thru this ? |
| [14:40:00] | drummer87: | hey, does mythtv run inside gnome or kde? or is it like it's own de? i'm confused as to how it works and what i can use it for... |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythtv runs with or without any window manager or desktop environment |
| [14:41:00] | _dave: | it makes its own user acct from what ive seen, but i think it runs in whatever gui u use |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | though it is best to run it under a window manager of some sort if only to avoid focus issues |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | even just a very minimal onme |
| [14:42:00] | _dave: | anyone know of an apt source where ALL required versions of files can be found ? i found one guys brag page about how easy it was, but the server doesn't exist |
| [14:43:00] | ** Tommck doesn't use packages ** | |
| [14:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | me either |
| [14:44:00] | _dave: | whatever. compiling will still require versions of libc6. versions that are apparently newer than " libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1–21) but 2.3.2.ds1–20ubuntu14 is to be installed" states |
| [14:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | _dave: No, that's not a requirement |
| [14:45:00] | _dave: | so if i just go get the source packages you recon i'll have some luck ? i fear this sort of thing. always looks promising till ive got the make install going, then spits the dummy. |
| [14:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | _dave: I've never had a problem installing from source I couldn't handle easily enough. |
| [14:47:00] | _dave: | oops. thought red text was a pm. sorry, new to konversation |
| [14:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | np :) |
| [14:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's likely just a highlight since I said your nick |
| [14:48:00] | ** directhex has dirty, hand-patched debian mythtv packages, with funny version numbers. huzzah ** | |
| [14:53:00] | _dave: | GreyFoxx: k. already had tried this one. got the sources, ./configure'd them, and thats where i got lost. no makefiles etc. |
| [14:53:00] | _dave: | what am i sposed to be reading to figure this out ? |
| [14:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | the docs at mythtv.org might be useful :) |
| [14:54:00] | _dave: | what am i sposed to type to install it ? or is it installed..... what do i type to run it ? |
| [14:55:00] | _dave: | whereis says its in /etc and /usr/share |
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| [14:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think you reallyneed to read the documentation at mythtv.org |
| [14:56:00] | _dave: | (sorry if i'm a little unconventional.... forced out of windows and have used pretty much every distro of linux in the last month or so. |
| [14:56:00] | _dave: | k. off to read it now |
| [14:57:00] | ** GreyFoxx heads out ** | |
| [15:05:00] | Tommck: | anyone in here know anything about nfs? |
| [15:05:00] | Tommck: | there doesn't seem to be anyone at all in #nfs |
| [15:06:00] | ldam: | no, they hide here |
| [15:08:00] | Tommck: | it's gonna take 11 hours to rip a DVD to ISO? |
| [15:08:00] | Tommck: | I don't get it |
| [15:08:00] | ** ldam rips a dvd iso in 10–30 mins via usb ** | |
| [15:09:00] | Tommck: | yeah... I don't understand... |
| [15:09:00] | Tommck: | oh wait... it's ripping to an NFS mount |
| [15:09:00] | t0t3r2 is now known as t0t3r | |
| [15:09:00] | Tommck: | because it goes to the "videos" directory automagically, apparently |
| [15:10:00] | Tommck: | I didn't see a setting to change that.. |
| [15:12:00] | ** ldam rips using dd ** | |
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| [15:12:00] | Tommck: | I assumed that's what Myth would be using underneat |
| [15:12:00] | Tommck: | h |
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| [15:13:00] | Tommck: | does anyone know how the DVD rip to ISO works? |
| [15:14:00] | Tommck: | ldam – what parms to dd? |
| [15:14:00] | ldam: | oh. Well i still in the process of setting up my first mythbox, so i'm not that myth experienced yet |
| [15:14:00] | ldam: | Tommck, none really; dd if=/dev/dvd of=thefile.iso |
| [15:14:00] | Tommck: | and you can play them from that? |
| [15:14:00] | ldam: | yeah. iso needs to be mounted |
| [15:15:00] | Tommck: | cool |
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| [15:15:00] | Tommck: | oh... it _does_ "nice" the process bigtime too |
| [15:15:00] | Tommck: | that would make a diff |
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| [15:18:00] | D-side: | morning boys |
| [15:20:00] | Tommck: | D-side that's kinda sexist, isn't it? |
| [15:21:00] | ** Tommck is a boy, but is sensitive to women :) ** | |
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| [15:21:00] | ** Tommck corrects himself... Tommck is a MAN... ** | |
| [15:21:00] | D-side: | maybe a little. |
| [15:21:00] | D-side: | i do of course assume that everyone here is male. |
| [15:21:00] | Tommck: | not always true |
| [15:22:00] | D-side: | more so than not, however. |
| [15:22:00] | benw: | women would just go and buy a pvr that matched their handbag |
| [15:22:00] | D-side: | know of any linux utils that'll join avis? |
| [15:22:00] | D-side: | benw: heh, you're alright. |
| [15:22:00] | D-side: | i like you. |
| [15:23:00] | benw: | hehe |
| [15:23:00] | Tommck: | are you guys married? |
| [15:23:00] | D-side: | hah. avimerge. what an ass I am. |
| [15:23:00] | benw: | Tommck: I am |
| [15:23:00] | Tommck: | benw – does your wife know you say things like that? ;) |
| [15:24:00] | benw: | yeah, she expects it of me |
| [15:24:00] | Tommck: | hehe |
| [15:24:00] | Tommck: | tolerant woman :) |
| [15:25:00] | D-side: | bahaha |
| [15:25:00] | D-side: | gf walks over, looks at the screen, and says "i would NOT require my pvr to match my handbag, fucker" |
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| [15:26:00] | Tommck: | hehe :) |
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| [15:27:00] | NightBird: | good morning |
| [15:28:00] | NightBird: | so, my case and tv tuner and keyboard/mouse are on the way today.... |
| [15:28:00] | D-side: | so, just to keep a conversation going, anyone use an xbox as a frontend? |
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| [15:31:00] | Tommck: | nope |
| [15:32:00] | CanadaBoy: | D-side im thinking about it ... |
| [15:32:00] | benw: | D-side: perhaps she'd prefer a pvr to match her shoes? Some women are funny like that, belts, shoes, handbag, or perhaps even to match the little vest that the miniature dog wears |
| [15:33:00] | D-side: | benw: she swears she doesnt watch ANY tv, but when i've got Family Guy queued up in the mythtv box its a different story. |
| [15:33:00] | D-side: | contrary thing, she is. |
| [15:33:00] | D-side: | CanadaBoy: i'm going the xbmc+xbmcmythtv route soon. |
| [15:34:00] | D-side: | was just hoping someone here has actually done it, and could give me a few tips. |
| [15:35:00] | CanadaBoy: | D-side: why xbmc+xbmyth .. why not linux + myth? |
| [15:36:00] | D-side: | theres no reason to install linux on the xbox. |
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| [15:37:00] | D-side: | i gave up on the "because i can" thing a long time ago. |
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| [15:51:00] | evilbuny: | D-side: heh, that's why i bought a xbox and stuck xmbc on an xbox ages ago :) just getting round to playing with myth atm, but my xbox and my myth box aren't in the same country |
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| [15:52:00] | D-side: | evilbuny: i saw xbmc in use on my buddy's box, with his 60" lcd projection tv. |
| [15:52:00] | D-side: | no, i dont have such a tv, but damnit do i need that functionality. :) |
| [15:53:00] | evilbuny: | i bought a projector |
| [15:53:00] | evilbuny: | and the xbox surround kit/plug thing |
| [15:53:00] | D-side: | how's the bulb life? |
| [15:53:00] | evilbuny: | 3000hrs apparently |
| [15:53:00] | D-side: | the Advanced or HD AV pack? |
| [15:53:00] | evilbuny: | the thing that spits out surround sound |
| [15:53:00] | evilbuny: | and svhs plug |
| [15:54:00] | CanadaBoy: | D-side: so are there xbmc skins that look like mythtv? |
| [15:54:00] | D-side: | CanadaBoy: no, none that i've found |
| [15:55:00] | D-side: | but i prefer the look of Project Mayhem III anyway. ever se it? |
| [15:55:00] | D-side: | evilbuny: thats the Advanced one. |
| [15:55:00] | D-side: | svideo and optical. |
| [15:55:00] | CanadaBoy: | me so ... |
| [15:55:00] | D-side: | xbmc screenshots: http://chokemaniac.loafamotive.com/gallery.php?cat=pm3 |
| [15:55:00] | CanadaBoy: | but i want the gui;s to be the same ... |
| [15:56:00] | CanadaBoy: | i think i'll stick with linux + mythtv |
| [15:56:00] | D-side: | xbmc + mythtv screenshots |
| [15:56:00] | D-side: | http://andrew.diymarine.com.au/wp/2005/08/09/xbmc-and-mythtv/ |
| [15:56:00] | D-side: | i like the look of the xbmc skin far better than the myth themes, personally. |
| [15:57:00] | evilbuny: | D-side: I miss my xbox for playing movies on :) |
| [15:57:00] | evilbuny: | "it just works" |
| [15:57:00] | D-side: | evilbuny: i cant wait to do that |
| [15:57:00] | D-side: | waiting on my chip. :) |
| [15:57:00] | evilbuny: | i didn't chip mine |
| [15:58:00] | D-side: | the softmod instructions i found were a pain in the ass. |
| [15:58:00] | evilbuny: | we shorted 3 solder points, ran a game hack and then uploaded a new bios |
| [15:58:00] | D-side: | that and i dont own a mem card, or action replay, or the dumb exploitable game. |
| [15:58:00] | evilbuny: | rental shop :) |
| [15:58:00] | D-side: | those three things together equalled the cost of the chip. |
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| [15:59:00] | evilbuny: | D-side: yea, anyone that asks me i tell em just to get it chipped |
| [15:59:00] | evilbuny: | it was a pain in the ass |
| [16:00:00] | Tommck: | wow... nfs is slow as shit |
| [16:00:00] | D-side: | Tommck: oh? |
| [16:00:00] | Tommck: | D-side copying a DVD iso over nfs... taking forever |
| [16:00:00] | Tommck: | not because it's NFS, |
| [16:01:00] | D-side: | well yeah, you're still capped to your ether speed. :) |
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| [16:01:00] | Tommck: | because it's a DVD iso :) |
| [16:01:00] | Tommck: | hehe.. yeah |
| [16:01:00] | D-side: | anywhere from 8–10mB/sec |
| [16:01:00] | evilbuny: | Tommck: gbit nic :) |
| [16:01:00] | Tommck: | I know |
| [16:01:00] | Tommck: | I'm thinking about it now :) |
| [16:01:00] | D-side: | which reminds me, i want to put this new switch up in the other room. hmm.. maybe i should do that right now. afk |
| [16:03:00] | evilbuny: | I had to settle for wireless in my myth box :/ |
| [16:03:00] | Tommck: | yikes |
| [16:03:00] | Tommck: | oh... single front/back end? |
| [16:03:00] | D-side: | am i still here? |
| [16:03:00] | Tommck: | yes |
| [16:03:00] | D-side: | excellent. |
| [16:03:00] | CanadaBoy: | D-side .. that looks sweet |
| [16:04:00] | evilbuny: | Tommck: actually can run 2 streams over 11g |
| [16:04:00] | D-side: | CanadaBoy: i havent used the myth scripts yet, but i hear they're great. |
| [16:04:00] | Tommck: | what looks sweet? |
| [16:04:00] | Tommck: | evil – unless the 2 machines are next to each other, there'll be some variance in bandwidth, right? |
| [16:04:00] | D-side: | probably xbmc and the mythtv python scripts for it. |
| [16:04:00] | ** Tommck uses wires whenever possible ** | |
| [16:04:00] | evilbuny: | depends on antenna, density of walls etc etc etc |
| [16:04:00] | D-side: | i'm using wireless to bridge wired segments. |
| [16:05:00] | ** Tommck had the luxury of having 5000 feet of cat 5e put in his walls during construction :) ** | |
| [16:05:00] | D-side: | wired segment in the tv room (mythtv box, firewall, cablemodem), another in the bedroom (my pc, gf's imac) |
| [16:05:00] | D-side: | thats the way to do it. |
| [16:05:00] | evilbuny: | Tommck: rental |
| [16:05:00] | evilbuny: | or I would |
| [16:05:00] | Tommck: | :) |
| [16:05:00] | Tommck: | and tubes for new wires |
| [16:05:00] | evilbuny: | and this mobo has a gbit nic too |
| [16:06:00] | evilbuny: | kinda ironic I'm on wireless |
| [16:06:00] | evilbuny: | lol |
| [16:06:00] | D-side: | Tommck: what, conduit in the walls? jesus. :) |
| [16:06:00] | Tommck: | yeah.. conduit for new stuff |
| [16:07:00] | D-side: | if i were going to build, i'd do stupid shit. |
| [16:07:00] | evilbuny: | either of you guys have any experience with pvr 150 mce's? |
| [16:07:00] | D-side: | like terminate all wires to the closest closet, so i could have managed switches in each room. :) |
| [16:07:00] | Tommck: | evilbuny – I have a PVR-500 |
| [16:07:00] | Tommck: | D-side that's what I have :) |
| [16:07:00] | D-side: | managed switches in each room? |
| [16:08:00] | Tommck: | oh... except not managed switches yet |
| [16:08:00] | D-side: | i'd want to, no shit, vlan out everything. :) |
| [16:08:00] | Tommck: | it is nice having wires friggin everywhere. |
| [16:08:00] | Tommck: | I even have cat-5 on my porch :) |
| [16:08:00] | CanadaBoy: | D-side: mythtv setup for xbmc > |
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| [16:08:00] | evilbuny: | Tommck: i have 2 150's non-mce and 2 mce and the mce ones are identical almost (same model/revision, diff serials) 3 work perfectly, 1 only tunes to a handful of channels |
| [16:09:00] | Tommck: | weird |
| [16:09:00] | Tommck: | could be an issue with so many in one machine? |
| [16:09:00] | Tommck: | dunno |
| [16:09:00] | evilbuny: | nup, i took them all out but the one |
| [16:10:00] | evilbuny: | same problem |
| [16:10:00] | Tommck: | weird |
| [16:11:00] | evilbuny: | the channels it does work on is perfect quality |
| [16:11:00] | evilbuny: | i've been tryig to force different tuners etc etc etc without it working |
| [16:12:00] | Tommck: | strange stuff... |
| [16:12:00] | Tommck: | swapped slots? |
| [16:12:00] | Tommck: | could be some sort of IRQ sharing thing? |
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| [16:13:00] | evilbuny: | nup tried diff slots, even tried swapping the slot with the other mce that's working |
| [16:13:00] | evilbuny: | it keeps working, this one acts weird |
| [16:14:00] | Tommck: | sucks |
| [16:15:00] | ldam: | Tommck, i had heating problems with my 350 tuner. Try cool'em |
| [16:16:00] | ldam: | evilbuny that is |
| [16:16:00] | BishounenNightBi: | have you tried it in another computer? |
| [16:16:00] | D-side: | CanadaBoy: hm? |
| [16:16:00] | BishounenNightBi is now known as NightBird | |
| [16:16:00] | D-side: | evilbuny: sell it on ebay. |
| [16:16:00] | D-side: | you dont need that aggravation. |
| [16:17:00] | NightBird: | heh |
| [16:17:00] | D-side: | i'm not even kidding. |
| [16:17:00] | D-side: | sell it, and buy a new one from pcalchemy |
| [16:18:00] | t0t3r2 is now known as t0t3r | |
| [16:19:00] | NightBird: | or newegg :P |
| [16:19:00] | Tommck: | pcalchemy's usually cheaper |
| [16:20:00] | D-side: | i support pcalchemy fully. |
| [16:20:00] | NightBird: | heh |
| [16:20:00] | Tommck: | bought mine there |
| [16:20:00] | NightBird: | how is it for everything else though? :P |
| [16:20:00] | D-side: | some of their employees contribute code to ivtv. thtas all i need to say. |
| [16:20:00] | D-side: | shipping was cheap, and got here in i think 3 days. |
| [16:21:00] | NightBird: | huh |
| [16:21:00] | NightBird: | ah |
| [16:21:00] | Tommck: | some of Microsoft's employees could contribute to ivtv and I wouldn't go buy MS Office :) |
| [16:22:00] | D-side: | cmon, thats a silly analogy. |
| [16:22:00] | Tommck: | I don't think so |
| [16:22:00] | D-side: | you know you have to respect what they do. :) |
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| [16:22:00] | Tommck: | I think it's nice, but if they weren't cheap, I wouldn't use them |
| [16:22:00] | D-side: | they sell a product, and help ensure that it works for our community. |
| [16:22:00] | Tommck: | <-- price whore |
| [16:23:00] | D-side: | I would. |
| [16:23:00] | D-side: | when i find a retailer i like, i stick with them. i've had some bad experiences. |
| [16:23:00] | Tommck: | it's the reason Walmart does so well... most people don't care what the companies do |
| [16:24:00] | Tommck: | wow... it's taking forever to copy this dvd. |
| [16:24:00] | Tommck: | over nfs... |
| [16:25:00] | Tommck: | big fat 7GB iso file |
| [16:29:00] | D-side: | yeah. whats the throughput, you know? |
| [16:30:00] | Tommck: | unfortunately, I'm using cp, so it'd not giving me stats :) |
| [16:31:00] | Tommck: | but I'm using a cheap Linsksys switch, so it's not gonna max out the range |
| [16:31:00] | Tommck: | but even at 8MB/s, it's a LONG time |
| [16:31:00] | Tommck: | or did I do my math wrong? |
| [16:31:00] | Tommck: | wait.. it should only be about 15–20 minutes? |
| [16:33:00] | defaultro: | hi tommck |
| [16:33:00] | Tommck: | hey defaultro |
| [16:33:00] | defaultro: | takes me 30–35mins to ftp 8g iso |
| [16:33:00] | Tommck: | D-side am I right? |
| [16:33:00] | Tommck: | I should stop using "cp" and switch to something else |
| [16:33:00] | defaultro: | local network |
| [16:33:00] | Tommck: | this is a "cp" over NFS |
| [16:34:00] | Tommck: | it's been probably 20 minutes and only 775MB has transferred |
| [16:34:00] | defaultro: | that's slow |
| [16:35:00] | defaultro: | am on 100mbps though |
| [16:35:00] | Tommck: | me too :) |
| [16:35:00] | defaultro: | use ftp then |
| [16:35:00] | D-side: | thats really rather slow, yes. |
| [16:35:00] | D-side: | switches and not crap hubs, right? |
| [16:35:00] | defaultro: | am using linksys too, 6port |
| [16:35:00] | Tommck: | switches |
| [16:35:00] | defaultro: | got t from walmart |
| [16:36:00] | Tommck: | 16 port linksys |
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| [16:36:00] | defaultro: | make sure both hosts set at 100mpbs fulld |
| [16:37:00] | Tommck: | yeah, I'll check that out.. |
| [16:37:00] | Tommck: | father-in-law just dropped by... gotta go for now.. |
| [16:37:00] | Tommck: | ttyl |
| [16:38:00] | pmowry: | Any one using svn in Fedora core 4 for mythtv? I just tried for the first time and I get a PROPFIND request failed error |
| [16:39:00] | pmowry: | request mettod denied |
| [16:39:00] | evilbuny: | D-side: I was thinking returning it and asking for a refund would be more money in my pocket then a refund :) |
| [16:39:00] | evilbuny: | erm |
| [16:39:00] | evilbuny: | ebay |
| [16:39:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [16:39:00] | evilbuny: | as for using it in another puter, that's pointless even if it does work it wouldn't be any benefit |
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| [16:40:00] | evilbuny: | and yes they are warm, but it still didn't work when it was the only pci card |
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| [16:41:00] | NightBird: | so, quick question, whats the main differences between pvr 150,250 and 350? do the higher ones just give better quality? or do they have nicer features.. |
| [16:41:00] | evilbuny: | i'm actually going fan buying today to cool all the pci slots, but i need some kind of bracket to mount the fan |
| [16:41:00] | evilbuny: | 350 is tv out as well iirc |
| [16:42:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [16:43:00] | evilbuny: | tv out with mpeg decoder |
| [16:43:00] | evilbuny: | so less cpu needed |
| [16:44:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [16:44:00] | NightBird: | the tv out is just of what is inputted? |
| [16:44:00] | D-side: | mostly |
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| [16:44:00] | D-side: | i think theres framebuffer support so it can act as an X head, but i think theres limitations to that. |
| [16:45:00] | D-side: | i dont have one, and i've never used one, so I don't know for a fact. |
| [16:45:00] | D-side: | afk. |
| [16:46:00] | evilbuny: | i don't have one either, just what i've read |
| [16:47:00] | NightBird: | hm.. |
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| [16:56:00] | pmowry: | I have a PVR-350 in an slow machine. IVTV has a frame buffer driver for it's TV out. It works great for TV programs and most mythtv plugins, looks fine with the few avi files I've tried. and a few games. If you are buying and have enough CPU to not need the hardware decoding, go with a 250 or 150 and get a graphics card with TV-out. Even a $40 Nvidia card will do. |
| [16:57:00] | ** NightBird nods ** | |
| [16:57:00] | NightBird: | I have an old GeForce I'm going to be useing with s-video out |
| [17:00:00] | pmowry: | When choosing between a 250 and a 150: the 150 requires you to use the 0.3.0 ivtv drivers while the 250 will let you use the more stable 0.2.0rc3. But my knowledge is a dit dated. |
| [17:00:00] | harryman100: | Hi, does anyone know why my DVB channels scan through Mythtv doesn't pick up all the channels it should? I know I can receive them, because I currently watch them in xine. I live in the UK. |
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| [17:05:00] | NightBird: | heh |
| [17:05:00] | NightBird: | the ivtv 0.2.0 had the 150 and 500 pvr support backported from the 0.3.0 versions |
| [17:05:00] | pmowry: | Thanks for the correcton. ;) |
| [17:07:00] | NightBird: | heh |
| [17:07:00] | NightBird: | well |
| [17:08:00] | NightBird: | hey, do any of you guys know of a good way to get and drop off files to knoppmyth w/o useing cd's / floppies... |
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| [17:14:00] | NightBird: | hm... pvr 150 can use a builtin sound card, right? |
| [17:15:00] | NightBird: | like the sound card being on the motherboard |
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| [17:16:00] | topping: | hi y'all |
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| [17:19:00] | NightBird: | hi |
| [17:21:00] | topping: | anyone had luck with http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/blog/?p=17 ? |
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| [17:23:00] | KaiForce: | anyone have a link to the serial cable diagram for channel changing a directv rca receiver? |
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| [17:26:00] | KaiForce: | nm I found it here: http://www.dtvcontrol.com/index.aspx?content=cable |
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| [17:29:00] | Dibblah: | tommck: Copy still going? |
| [17:30:00] | Dibblah: | Try: mount / -o remount,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 |
| [17:30:00] | Dibblah: | Replace / with your mountpoint. |
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| [17:49:00] | pmowry: | Bleh, gotta run Ip phone system cutover is going bad. |
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| [17:55:00] | directhex: | what defines the font size presented in myth? i changed WM, and now all the fonts are small and puny |
| [17:55:00] | Tommck: | somewhere in the menus are font size stuff... I'm not sure what it all does though |
| [17:56:00] | Tommck: | anyone in here use ogle to play their DVDs? |
| [17:56:00] | directhex: | i was going to, but no lirc or deinterlace support |
| [17:56:00] | Tommck: | I have an interlaced video mode anyway |
| [17:57:00] | Tommck: | 1920x1080i tho |
| [17:57:00] | Tommck: | I don't use lirc either |
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| [18:28:00] | Tommck: | Dibblah – sorry.. .didn't see that post... I used rsync instead... quite fast :) |
| [18:29:00] | down_below: | is there a possibility to listen to radio stations broadcated via dvb-s with mythtv? |
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| [18:40:00] | harryman100: | how long does mythfilldatabase usually take to run, I started it nearly an hour ago and it's still going |
| [18:41:00] | Tommck: | harryman100 – I'd assume that depends on your internet connection... how many channels you have... lotsa stuff |
| [18:41:00] | Tommck: | oh... and if you're using Zap2it or something else |
| [18:43:00] | Tommck: | I don't know how long mine takes... it runs overnight |
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| [18:45:00] | evilbuny: | Tommck: i'm using zap2it and it didn't take very long at all for about 50 channels over cable :) |
| [18:45:00] | evilbuny: | each day + channels list is less then 200kbytes |
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| [18:46:00] | Tommck: | then harryman100 has somethign wrong |
| [18:46:00] | Tommck: | or he's on dialyp |
| [18:47:00] | evilbuny: | even dialup should be able to grab the channel list and 4 days in 5 minutes or so |
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| [18:48:00] | Tommck: | maybe he's grabbing 6 months data :) |
| [18:48:00] | evilbuny: | lol |
| [18:48:00] | blur: | harryman, u setting up? i had a problem with setup. had to alt tab to the window it's running in and set up the channels |
| [18:49:00] | harryman100: | I'm on broadband but using xmltv in the uk, I've just finished setup and running the fill database for the first time, it has finished the downloading of the xmltv stuff, |
| [18:50:00] | blur: | canu see data going past? |
| [18:51:00] | harryman100: | no not on stdout, but rows are still appearing in the database |
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| [18:54:00] | blur: | thas all i got. i did have a problem this morning and had to run a repair. but it still didn't take long for the update to run. :/ |
| [18:54:00] | blur: | but i'm only on a few channels tbh |
| [18:55:00] | blur: | sorry can't b more help. pretty newb myself. :) |
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| [19:07:00] | donsmith: | anyone use ubuntu here? |
| [19:08:00] | Tommck: | I think Beirdo does |
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| [19:08:00] | donsmith: | I'm trying to either compile or install mythtv on a breezy system with no luck |
| [19:09:00] | Tommck: | close the windows? |
| [19:09:00] | donsmith: | heh |
| [19:09:00] | donsmith: | ubuntu breezy, it's the distro name |
| [19:09:00] | Tommck: | hehe.. |
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| [19:10:00] | rapha: | Hi all! |
| [19:10:00] | evilbuny: | donsmith: i do |
| [19:10:00] | evilbuny: | although I'm using hoary + backports from breezy |
| [19:11:00] | donsmith: | when I try and do a compile on breezy it blows up in libmythmpeg |
| [19:11:00] | evilbuny: | i just used packages :) |
| [19:11:00] | evilbuny: | screw compiling :) |
| [19:11:00] | donsmith: | and when i try and get the pkgs it fails due to an unmet dependency |
| [19:11:00] | Tommck: | real men compile |
| [19:12:00] | rapha: | What do I have to do to see a mouse cursor in the various mythtv programs? |
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| [19:12:00] | evilbuny: | donsmith: you need some deb libs |
| [19:12:00] | Tommck: | rapha – why? |
| [19:12:00] | donsmith: | heh yeah but the latest packages in multiverse is 17 not 18 |
| [19:12:00] | Tommck: | the mouse is useless |
| [19:12:00] | rapha: | Tommck: Because I can't reach some of the controls using the keyboard. |
| [19:13:00] | Tommck: | rapha – not possible.... myth doesn't use the mouse |
| [19:13:00] | rapha: | Tommck: But as much as I tab around; I can't for the heck of it reach the "Scan for programs" button... |
| [19:13:00] | Tommck: | don't know what to tell you... use the arrow keys instead? |
| [19:14:00] | ** directhex uses his sexy new myth-friendly remote, on his finally finished myth install ** | |
| [19:14:00] | rapha: | Tommck: Tried that, too |
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| [19:14:00] | Krazylegz: | directhex: Which remote did you end up with? |
| [19:15:00] | rapha: | Tommck: also, mythtv-setup appears to be trying to connect to mysql as user "rapha", despite my running it as user "mythtv", which I find rather strange. |
| [19:15:00] | directhex: | hang on, got a photo uploading |
| [19:15:00] | evilbuny: | rapha: you just change it |
| [19:15:00] | directhex: | what does your .mythtv/mysql.txt say? |
| [19:15:00] | Tommck: | rapha as far as I know that is a setting somewhere |
| [19:15:00] | evilbuny: | in myth config iirc |
| [19:17:00] | rapha: | Hmm... |
| [19:17:00] | rapha: | how do you change passwords for mysql users? |
| [19:17:00] | directhex: | http://apebox.org/imglibrary.php?section=thre . . . img_0486.jpg |
| [19:17:00] | Tommck: | |
| [19:17:00] | directhex: | Krazylegz, ^^ |
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| [19:20:00] | evilbuny: | rapha: from in mysql usually |
| [19:20:00] | evilbuny: | it's often easiest if you install apache and phpmyadmin |
| [19:22:00] | rapha: | Okay, |
| [19:22:00] | rapha: | got the password set |
| [19:23:00] | rapha: | But now I start mythtv-setup, it asks me stuff like mysql-db, user, password, I enter that, say "Next", say "Finish" in the next screen, and then it closes, opens again on the first screen and so on |
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| [19:24:00] | wasabi: | My integrated player doesn't seem to work very well. |
| [19:24:00] | wasabi: | Actually it causes myth to crash. |
| [19:25:00] | robin_: | anybody here uses standby on their HTPC ? |
| [19:25:00] | ** Tommck likes to waste electricity ** | |
| [19:25:00] | robin_: | besides Tommck :) |
| [19:26:00] | ** stoffel smacks Tommy for doing that ** | |
| [19:26:00] | robin_: | stoffel: u use standby ? |
| [19:26:00] | stoffel: | not on the htpc |
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| [19:26:00] | ** Tommck wants to, but wants everything in myth to work for him first ** | |
| [19:27:00] | robin_: | ok well, "echo mem > /sys/power/state" doesn't work because mysqld don't want to sleep, nor lirc_dev |
| [19:28:00] | Krazylegz: | I don't think that people are as impressed with my Mythbox as I am. |
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| [19:29:00] | robin_: | Krazylegz: because all your friends use MCE :D ? |
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| [19:29:00] | rapha: | Okay, I got to the point now where it asks me to run "mythfilldatabase --manual |
| [19:29:00] | rapha: | ". But that after a while gives "Can't call method "look_down" on an undefined value at /usr/bin/tv_grab_de line 458.". Any hints? |
| [19:30:00] | stoffel: | rapha: see WWW.MYTHWIKI.DE |
| [19:30:00] | rapha: | Thanks stoffel! |
| [19:31:00] | evilbuny: | Krazylegz: i found the same problem :) |
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| [19:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Actually, all of my friends use nothing. |
| [19:31:00] | Krazylegz: | They like the pause/rewind features, but they aren't impressed by watching downloads, etc. |
| [19:31:00] | rapha: | stoffel: Is there another grabber for Germany, or is this the only one? |
| [19:32:00] | rapha: | Ah |
| [19:32:00] | rapha: | Okay |
| [19:32:00] | rapha: | Found it |
| [19:32:00] | rapha: | Thanks for making the working one, stoffel! |
| [19:32:00] | stoffel: | rapha: the other one works too, but you have to use a cvs version of that grabber |
| [19:32:00] | Krazylegz: | Isn't there a way to enable commercial-auto-skip all the time when you're watching recordings? |
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| [19:34:00] | jonK: | hello. Anyone around? |
| [19:34:00] | rapha: | stoffel: I'm trying the updated .debs now |
| [19:35:00] | evilbuny: | Krazylegz: you can set it to auto flag |
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| [19:37:00] | rapha: | stoffel: How long should "grabbing" take? |
| [19:37:00] | stoffel: | until it's finished ;) |
| [19:38:00] | robin_: | About the commericial skiping, that doesnt work good for me.. It tried detecting Logo and ALL. But it skips to much, or almost nothing.. :/ |
| [19:38:00] | evilbuny: | did you have strict detection? |
| [19:38:00] | evilbuny: | enabled |
| [19:38:00] | stoffel: | rapha: takes ~2–3 hours with my grabber for ~30 stations and extended descriptions |
| [19:38:00] | stoffel: | and 7 days of data |
| [19:38:00] | robin_: | evilbuny: yes i tried Logo and strict. but it did skip the commercial for only 2 sec |
| [19:39:00] | directhex: | jesus almighty |
| [19:39:00] | evilbuny: | robin_: *shrug* it's working well here for me |
| [19:39:00] | stoffel: | robin_: the all option works best for me |
| [19:39:00] | rapha: | stoffel: Okay, so no need to freak out when nothing happens after a couple of minutes :) |
| [19:39:00] | directhex: | takes me 4 minutes for a full 14-day grab on that many stations |
| [19:39:00] | robin_: | evilbuny: you use strict and all ? |
| [19:39:00] | evilbuny: | yes |
| [19:39:00] | robin_: | ok will try that. |
| [19:39:00] | rapha: | stoffel: can it be restricted to, say, one day and one station only? I'd like to get mythtv working first... |
| [19:40:00] | directhex: | god bless the bbc, and the radio times' machine-readable data |
| [19:40:00] | evilbuny: | some channels screw with auto detection and shows too many ads, but better then loosing show |
| [19:42:00] | directhex: | tv_grab_uk_rt is nice and simple: open http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/$RTID.dat to get 14 days of that channel's data, including descriptions |
| [19:43:00] | robin_: | it did take me 4 hours to download epg for 30 stations (7 days) |
| [19:43:00] | evilbuny: | 4 hours? |
| [19:43:00] | evilbuny: | wow |
| [19:43:00] | robin_: | with tv_grab_nl |
| [19:43:00] | robin_: | yeah |
| [19:44:00] | robin_: | but well, it works |
| [19:45:00] | directhex: | html scraping sucks. too prone to changing (see tv_grab_au issues recently) |
| [19:45:00] | evilbuny: | directhex: my friend in sydney was pulling info from the dvb feed or something |
| [19:46:00] | directhex: | yeah, you can do that here, but tv_grab_dvb isn't in myth as far as i can see |
| [19:46:00] | directhex: | plus, i get more data from the radio times |
| [19:46:00] | robin_: | well they send EPG GUIDE Plus+ with Eurosport. But don't know if there is an application who can convert it (or read it) to xmltv format |
| [19:47:00] | rapha: | Hmm |
| [19:48:00] | rapha: | Tommck: I switched theme and can now see that channel search is grayed-out... what can be done about that? |
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| [19:51:00] | Tommck: | don't know. |
| [19:51:00] | Tommck: | maybe the type of cards you have don't support it? no idea |
| [19:51:00] | Tommck: | I never used channel search |
| [19:51:00] | rapha: | Tommck: It's a standard Bt8x8 or whatever it's called... v4l |
| [19:52:00] | rapha: | Do you enter all the chans manually then? |
| [19:52:00] | Tommck: | no... Zap2it handled that |
| [19:52:00] | rapha: | Okay |
| [19:53:00] | rapha: | What about starting the backend server then... says "mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed" |
| [19:53:00] | Tommck: | no idea... maybe a mysql issue? |
| [19:53:00] | Tommck: | is mysql running? |
| [19:53:00] | rapha: | yup |
| [19:53:00] | rapha: | And I can manually connect as "mythtv" |
| [19:53:00] | Tommck: | password work? |
| [19:53:00] | rapha: | Yes |
| [19:54:00] | Tommck: | is it using mythtv? you were using something else before |
| [19:54:00] | rapha: | Well, I was using tvtime |
| [19:54:00] | rapha: | But that has nothing to do with mysql |
| [19:54:00] | Tommck: | no... I mean you were using a different username before |
| [19:55:00] | rapha: | Nope |
| [19:55:00] | rapha: | mythtv |
| [19:55:00] | rapha: | I only set a different password both in mysql and in mythtv-setup |
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| [19:56:00] | Tommck: | "rapha: Tommck: also, mythtv-setup appears to be trying to connect to mysql as user "rapha", despite my running it as user "mythtv", which I find rather strange." |
| [19:56:00] | rapha: | Yes, I it doesn't say that anymore |
| [19:56:00] | Tommck: | you fixed this? |
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| [19:56:00] | rapha: | yup |
| [19:56:00] | Tommck: | weird |
| [19:56:00] | Tommck: | don't know then |
| [19:56:00] | Tommck: | I'd try googling the error |
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| [19:58:00] | evilbuny: | the mythbackend error, did you update the mythbackend mysql config file for the new password |
| [19:59:00] | rapha: | evilbuny: where is that? |
| [20:00:00] | rapha: | /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt? |
| [20:00:00] | rapha: | Because that one contains the right information. |
| [20:00:00] | evilbuny: | no |
| [20:00:00] | evilbuny: | that's for the frontend |
| [20:01:00] | evilbuny: | you need to change the backend config too |
| [20:01:00] | evilbuny: | i'm using deb packages and it's in /etc/myth*/mysql.conf |
| [20:01:00] | evilbuny: | or soemthing like that |
| [20:01:00] | rapha: | Okay, found it |
| [20:02:00] | rapha: | Didn't help, either |
| [20:02:00] | evilbuny: | did you restart myth-backend? |
| [20:02:00] | rapha: | My problem is that I don't get it started in the first place |
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| [20:03:00] | evilbuny: | whats the error now, or the same? |
| [20:04:00] | rapha: | Same |
| [20:04:00] | evilbuny: | did you restart mysql? |
| [20:04:00] | rapha: | Nope |
| [20:04:00] | rapha: | Lemme try that |
| [20:04:00] | evilbuny: | or reload permissions |
| [20:04:00] | evilbuny: | otherwise the new password won't take |
| [20:05:00] | rapha: | I flushed the privileges table. Logging in as mythtv over the mysql command works well. |
| [20:05:00] | rapha: | Nope |
| [20:05:00] | rapha: | restarting mysql didn't help |
| [20:05:00] | evilbuny: | hmmmm |
| [20:05:00] | evilbuny: | what do you have for the hostname, localhost? or 127.0.0.1? |
| [20:05:00] | rapha: | Tried both |
| [20:05:00] | evilbuny: | or IP |
| [20:05:00] | rapha: | Which is better? |
| [20:06:00] | directhex: | might i make a suggestion? |
| [20:06:00] | rapha: | Gladly |
| [20:06:00] | evilbuny: | rapha: IP |
| [20:06:00] | evilbuny: | for this |
| [20:06:00] | rapha: | Okay |
| [20:06:00] | directhex: | edit /etc/hosts and remove the words "localhost.localdomain" |
| [20:06:00] | rapha: | Put it in both config files |
| [20:06:00] | directhex: | then restart the backend |
| [20:07:00] | evilbuny: | directhex: except if you want a frontend on a diff machine :) |
| [20:07:00] | rapha: | Okay |
| [20:07:00] | evilbuny: | in which case you need to check host settings in my.cnf and the mysql permissions table |
| [20:07:00] | rapha: | Now I get "sudo: unable to lookup proactivity via gethostbyname() |
| [20:07:00] | rapha: | " |
| [20:07:00] | rapha: | Fixing that... |
| [20:08:00] | rapha: | Same error still... the authentication methods stuff |
| [20:08:00] | directhex: | hang on, i just said localhost.localdomain, not the entire line |
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| [20:08:00] | rapha: | directhex: Yeah, my fault. It now reads "127.0.0.1 proactivity". Still doesn't work though. |
| [20:08:00] | directhex: | leave localhost |
| [20:09:00] | directhex: | i.e. mine is: "127.0.0.1 localhost bloaty" |
| [20:09:00] | rapha: | Ya |
| [20:09:00] | rapha: | Got it like that now. Same error still though. |
| [20:09:00] | directhex: | what does "hostname --fqdn" return? |
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| [20:10:00] | robin_: | what do I need for transcoding recorded programs. I get an error "Unknown video code:" |
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| [20:10:00] | rapha: | directhex: localhost |
| [20:11:00] | directhex: | hmph :/ |
| [20:11:00] | rapha: | Not good? |
| [20:12:00] | directhex: | don't know what to suggest, it fixed the sql authentication errors i was getting |
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| [20:13:00] | rapha: | Okay, thx directhex |
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| [20:19:00] | rapha: | Hmm |
| [20:19:00] | rapha: | Funny |
| [20:19:00] | rapha: | I get the same error when I start an xterm as root |
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| [20:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | ; |
| [20:30:00] | directhex: | my myth machine works :) |
| [20:31:00] | ** NightBird is going to try to install myth ontop of ubuntu... ** | |
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| [20:38:00] | directhex: | I Installed MythTV... And All I Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt |
| [20:38:00] | directhex: | now, THAT could be a profit-spinner |
| [20:38:00] | stoffel: | huh? what T-Shirt? |
| [20:38:00] | directhex: | never mind -_- |
| [20:38:00] | stoffel: | ;) |
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| [20:41:00] | NightBird: | hm.... |
| [20:41:00] | NightBird: | question, what is ubuntu based off of? |
| [20:42:00] | Krazylegz: | Debian. |
| [20:43:00] | NightBird: | hm... ok |
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| [20:45:00] | ** NightBird downloads some debian versions of myth... lets see if I can't manage to get myth installed on ubuntu... ** | |
| [20:46:00] | evilbuny: | NightBird: works for me |
| [20:46:00] | NightBird: | ? |
| [20:46:00] | evilbuny: | ubuntu |
| [20:46:00] | NightBird: | you installed myth on ubuntu? |
| [20:46:00] | evilbuny: | + myth |
| [20:47:00] | evilbuny: | yes |
| [20:47:00] | evilbuny: | plus frontends on a couple of ubuntu laptops/desktops |
| [20:47:00] | NightBird: | ok |
| [20:47:00] | ** NightBird prefears ubuntu's gui over knoppmyth... ** | |
| [20:47:00] | Krazylegz: | Install your own. I did EvilWM when I started with Gentoo. |
| [20:48:00] | evilbuny: | ubuntu's gui? as in gnome? |
| [20:48:00] | NightBird: | and while you shouldn't need to use the base gui system too much, it should be relatively easy to use in case you ever do need to use it |
| [20:48:00] | ** NightBird shrugs ** | |
| [20:48:00] | NightBird: | I don't know |
| [20:48:00] | Krazylegz: | Most window managers are easy to use? |
| [20:48:00] | NightBird: | I'm a linux newbie |
| [20:48:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh. |
| [20:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, Linux lets you do lots of things from a command window. Did you like DOS? :-) |
| [20:49:00] | NightBird: | Krazylegz, yeah, I've done some stuff with it... |
| [20:49:00] | NightBird: | and now I have problems useing dos(since I'm useing linux commands now) |
| [20:50:00] | evilbuny: | you can get linux utils for dos :) |
| [20:50:00] | NightBird: | I just prefear a nicer gui is all |
| [20:50:00] | Krazylegz: | ls always gets me. |
| [20:51:00] | ** NightBird nods ** | |
| [20:51:00] | NightBird: | ls is the one I have the most problems with :P |
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| [20:52:00] | Krazylegz: | You could always alias dir to ls on your Linux system. |
| [20:52:00] | NightBird: | er.. you mean on the windows system? :P |
| [20:53:00] | Krazylegz: | No. |
| [20:53:00] | NightBird: | er... that would be backwords, but meh |
| [20:53:00] | Krazylegz: | So that you always do dir. |
| [20:53:00] | NightBird: | whatever |
| [20:53:00] | ** NightBird shrugs ** | |
| [20:53:00] | NightBird: | yeah |
| [20:53:00] | NightBird: | but |
| [20:53:00] | NightBird: | meh |
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| [20:55:00] | dougiel: | does anyone use a twinhan pv1020a with linux? |
| [20:55:00] | Tommck: | don't even know what it its |
| [20:55:00] | Tommck: | is* |
| [20:55:00] | dougiel: | hmmm |
| [20:57:00] | Sephen: | I'm having some difficulty editing the mysql tables to fix a recording issue. The guide flipped the shows: show A was in the schedule to record before Show B, but they were broadcast the other way around. I deleted Show B from the interface, and edited the tables for Show A's title, description, etc, but its not showing up. I've mad changes to Recorded, and RecordedMarkUp. Is there another table I'm missing? |
| [20:59:00] | ** Tommck things Sephen is brave ** | |
| [21:00:00] | Tommck: | thinks* |
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| [21:01:00] | Sephen: | I'm familiar with mysql quite a bit, I've turned on query logging to try and see what the system is doing against mysql, but its not shedding enough light on the issue. |
| [21:03:00] | Tommck: | why not just watch the shows as they are? |
| [21:04:00] | Sephen: | Tommck: I guess I'm a purist. =) |
| [21:04:00] | Tommck: | :) |
| [21:04:00] | Sephen: | Besides, once I figure this out, I have some files I want to add to the "recorded shows" listing as well – files I've recorded from other sources. |
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| [21:04:00] | Tommck: | why not just put them in MythVideo? |
| [21:05:00] | KaiForce: | can't you just put them in videos? |
| [21:05:00] | ** Tommck thinks Sephen has confused purist with masochist :) ** | |
| [21:06:00] | Sephen: | Maybe. I'd have to compile that module first. I'm still on 0.15, on a 64bit install (that wasn't fun). This weekend's weather is crappy, so I might convert the box to a nice 32bit install and the latest 0.18.1. |
| [21:06:00] | Tommck: | wow.. that's ancient in Myth terms |
| [21:06:00] | KaiForce: | i added another pvr250 and a second receiver to myth, man that could not have been easier |
| [21:06:00] | Sephen: | I had to modify a lot of make files to get myth to build in a 64bit environment. |
| [21:07:00] | KaiForce: | biggest problem was the cable to turn a usb port into a serial cable for changing channels |
| [21:08:00] | Tommck: | KaiForce – how long did that take? |
| [21:08:00] | KaiForce: | rerouting my directv cable, moving the receiver, getting the cable parts and setting it all up took about 4 hours |
| [21:09:00] | Tommck: | I mean the USB thingy |
| [21:10:00] | Tommck: | I have one for windows... it was just a driver install |
| [21:10:00] | KaiForce: | well i threw money at the problem since I wanted instant gratification, bought a usb to serial cable converter for 30 bucks, then a serial-rj11 converter, discovered i needed a gender changer, then found out the directv receiver needs the smaller rj11 connector. the cable is hideous but working right now :) |
| [21:11:00] | KaiForce: | i stole a green loopy cable off a telephone handset |
| [21:11:00] | Tommck: | KaiForce – the smaller is acutally the rj6 |
| [21:11:00] | evilbuny: | KaiForce: rj12 is bigger then rj11 |
| [21:11:00] | KaiForce: | rj6, thanks, now i know what to buy |
| [21:11:00] | Tommck: | I got one for $0.53 |
| [21:11:00] | Tommck: | (with tax) |
| [21:11:00] | KaiForce: | can i crimp that with an rj11 crimper? |
| [21:11:00] | Tommck: | and the store let me use their crimper :) |
| [21:11:00] | Tommck: | no |
| [21:11:00] | Tommck: | and it's usually not on the multi-crimper things |
| [21:12:00] | Tommck: | hardly anyone makes their own handset cables |
| [21:12:00] | KaiForce: | i have an rj45/rj11 crimp tool |
| [21:12:00] | Tommck: | won't help |
| [21:13:00] | KaiForce: | we have a phone that we only use in the event of power loss, its currently out of commission :) |
| [21:13:00] | Tommck: | hehe |
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| [21:30:00] | Tommck: | hehe... was wondering why my X10 3-way switch was getting hot... |
| [21:30:00] | ** NightBird blinks ** | |
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| [21:30:00] | NightBird: | "deb: command not found" |
| [21:30:00] | Tommck: | it's rated for 500 Watts... I have 800 Watts worth of stuff on it |
| [21:31:00] | Tommck: | and the 1000W switches are expensive! |
| [21:31:00] | NightBird: | heh |
| [21:31:00] | Tommck: | I'm trying to find one now... $57 ! |
| [21:32:00] | NightBird: | does ubuntu not have the deb command? |
| [21:32:00] | evilbuny: | deb command? |
| [21:32:00] | Tommck: | dunno |
| [21:32:00] | evilbuny: | or you mean apt-get |
| [21:32:00] | ** Tommck has never used Debian or it's ilk ** | |
| [21:32:00] | NightBird: | hm.. |
| [21:32:00] | ** Tommck chuckles at evilbuny ** | |
| [21:32:00] | evilbuny: | Tommck: what's your distro of choice |
| [21:33:00] | evilbuny: | ? |
| [21:33:00] | Tommck: | I think he meants urpmi or YaST or something |
| [21:33:00] | Tommck: | I use SuSE now |
| [21:33:00] | ** NightBird tries to figure out how to install myth on ubuntu ** | |
| [21:33:00] | Tommck: | I'm not married to one distro |
| [21:33:00] | evilbuny: | NightBird: want my sources list? |
| [21:33:00] | directhex: | it's apt-get for getting packages |
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| [21:33:00] | evilbuny: | <- running myth on ubunut |
| [21:33:00] | directhex: | apt-cache for examining the local packages list, or dpkg to operate on package files directly |
| [21:34:00] | rtsai: | aptitude is much nicer than apt-get |
| [21:34:00] | NightBird: | evilbuny, help me figure it out ^_^; |
| [21:34:00] | evilbuny: | rtsai: synaptic :) |
| [21:34:00] | evilbuny: | i'll pm you my sources list |
| [21:34:00] | NightBird: | ok |
| [21:34:00] | directhex: | yes, i use aptitude, but i don't know if that's in ubuntu's base install |
| [21:34:00] | directhex: | since it's so very gnomish |
| [21:34:00] | NightBird: | now where do I put that? |
| [21:35:00] | directhex: | put what? what exactly are you trying to do? |
| [21:37:00] | rtsai: | anyone updated ubuntu64 hoary recently? I think the rwlock fix is in libc now. |
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| [21:39:00] | evilbuny: | rtsai: i only have 32bit installs |
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| [21:46:00] | harryman100: | Hi, I've just installed a new grabber for xmltv, do I need to re-compile mythtv? |
| [21:46:00] | Tommck: | don't think so |
| [21:47:00] | harryman100: | Tommck: mythtv-setup doesn't offer it as an option when setting up a video source, do you know if there is anything I need to do to get it to register? |
| [21:47:00] | Tommck: | it's been too long |
| [21:47:00] | Tommck: | don't remember |
| [21:48:00] | harryman100: | hmm |
| [21:51:00] | directhex: | it's set in mythtv-0.18.1/programs/mythfilldatabase/filldata.cpp |
| [21:52:00] | directhex: | i think you can override it directly in the sql, ro something like that |
| [21:52:00] | Tommck: | directhex so he has to recompilte mythfilldatabase/ |
| [21:53:00] | Tommck: | ? |
| [21:53:00] | directhex: | well i THINK that's where it's set. grep is usually helpful in these situations |
| [21:53:00] | harryman100: | is mythfilldatabase the only thing I would need to recompile? |
| [21:53:00] | Tommck: | harryman100 – I think so |
| [21:54:00] | directhex: | is it something funky like tv_grab_dvb ? |
| [21:54:00] | harryman100: | yeah it's set in there, I guess I would need to re-configure to get it to change though |
| [21:54:00] | harryman100: | its tv_grab_uk_bleb or something |
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| [21:56:00] | directhex: | what's wrong with _rt ? |
| [21:56:00] | harryman100: | directhex: its REALLY slow for me |
| [21:56:00] | harryman100: | it was just trying bleb to find out if it was quicker |
| [21:57:00] | directhex: | i get 14 days' results from rt for 30 channels in 4 minutes |
| [21:57:00] | harryman100: | mine took about 15mins, but then I hadn't trimmed the channel list |
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| [21:58:00] | harryman100: | annoyingly it then took about 2 hours to fill the database |
| [21:58:00] | directhex: | how very strange. the _rt grabbers get their data in a pretty direct format |
| [21:59:00] | harryman100: | I think it was because I had the full list of channels |
| [21:59:00] | directhex: | i.e. a single web page download per channel for all 14 days' data, plus one |
| [21:59:00] | directhex: | see http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/$RTIDNUMBER.dat |
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| [22:07:00] | harryman100: | ok, I can't get that to work, I'm just going to stick with _rt and trim my channel list to see if that helps |
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| [22:08:00] | harryman100: | directhex: do you use dvb? in the UK? |
| [22:09:00] | directhex: | yes |
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| [22:09:00] | harryman100: | do you ever find that sometimes when scanning for channels, it only picks up part of the list? |
| [22:09:00] | Chaotic_Machiner: | Hello |
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| [22:10:00] | directhex: | can't say i've scanned for channels lately |
| [22:10:00] | harryman100: | fair enough, I guess it's not something you have to do very frequently... |
| [22:11:00] | directhex: | i shall play videogames now. |
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| [22:19:00] | Chaotic_Machiner: | I recently upgraded to 18.1. Somehow I have lost the ability to mark commcerials. I have not changed my settings and I have gone in and checked to see if commercial flagging is still enabled. Any ideas on this? |
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| [22:31:00] | Chaotic_Machiner: | Ok. I have another question. When autotranscoding from mpeg2 to mpeg4 is mythtv still using divx? |
| [22:32:00] | Dibblah: | xvid != divx ~= mpeg4. |
| [22:32:00] | stoffel: | Chaotic_Machiner: it's your choice |
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| [22:34:00] | Chaotic_Machiner: | How do I change it from dixv to xvid when autotranscoding? I have not seen a option in mythfrontend configuration to do it. Or are you refering to nuvexport? |
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| [22:34:00] | stoffel: | there's a setting 'somewhere' ;) |
| [22:35:00] | stoffel: | to select xvid or divx for encoding |
| [22:35:00] | Chaotic_Machiner: | Ok. I will look some more. |
| [22:40:00] | harryman100: | when you're editing the channel list is there any way to remove channels? not just hide them? I have duplicates... |
| [22:44:00] | D-side: | cant you do that with datadirect, if you're using that service? |
| [22:44:00] | D-side: | via the web gui i mean |
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| [22:52:00] | Cardoe: | hi kormoc |
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| [22:57:00] | kormoc: | hihi Cardoe |
| [22:58:00] | kormoc: | what's up? |
| [22:58:00] | Cardoe: | not much |
| [22:58:00] | Cardoe: | Gotta go to work shortly |
| [22:58:00] | Cardoe: | working on my patches |
| [22:58:00] | kormoc: | aww, that's sucky |
| [22:58:00] | kormoc: | I've been playing with osx for intel |
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| [22:58:00] | Cardoe: | And now I don't have a card that works with VBI |
| [22:58:00] | kormoc: | icky :/ |
| [22:58:00] | Cardoe: | so no idea if my CC on Mute patch works |
| [22:59:00] | kormoc: | Well, I'm sure you'll find out |
| [23:00:00] | JazHambo: | anyone here have experience using sis video cards with mythtv? |
| [23:00:00] | Cardoe: | wanted to take a nap before I went to work |
| [23:01:00] | Cardoe: | but oh well |
| [23:01:00] | Cardoe: | and I'm pretty much redoing mythfilldatabase |
| [23:01:00] | kormoc: | yeah? |
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| [23:02:00] | Cardoe: | gonna break it up into seperate patches |
| [23:02:00] | Cardoe: | re-did the classes |
| [23:02:00] | Cardoe: | which is going to make it easier to support other grabbers and expire grabbers and stuff. |
| [23:02:00] | Cardoe: | and also redid the options screen and then help screen |
| [23:03:00] | kormoc: | nice :) |
| [23:03:00] | Cardoe: | makes them a bit more intelligent |
| [23:03:00] | Cardoe: | then I need to go through the code and clean it up. |
| [23:04:00] | Cardoe: | Also, someone did the DbHelper work I was going to do |
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| [23:04:00] | Cardoe: | so I need to work with their patch |
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| [23:06:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
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| [23:08:00] | Z-Morek: | ok so I went and updated my FC3 mythtv rig using apt get |
| [23:08:00] | Z-Morek: | now on boot it doesn't automatically log into kde with my mythtv user and since I had it set to auto-login I forgot the password |
| [23:09:00] | Z-Morek: | so... how do I login as root to change the password for the mythtv user |
| [23:09:00] | Z-Morek: | since KDE doesn't allow root logins |
| [23:10:00] | gaasfet: | Z-Morek: open a root shell |
| [23:11:00] | gaasfet: | no reason to log in asa graphical user |
| [23:11:00] | gaasfet: | su - |
| [23:11:00] | gaasfet: | etc |
| [23:11:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm stuck at the login screen and I can't switch over to failsafe login |
| [23:11:00] | Z-Morek: | it just won't switch |
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| [23:12:00] | gaasfet: | can you log in as a regular user? |
| [23:12:00] | Z-Morek: | forgot the pass |
| [23:12:00] | Z-Morek: | I only set up one regular user |
| [23:13:00] | gaasfet: | you got the pass for it? |
| [23:13:00] | Z-Morek: | I have my root password |
| [23:13:00] | Z-Morek: | that's it |
| [23:13:00] | gaasfet: | so make a new user account |
| [23:13:00] | Z-Morek: | how |
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| [23:13:00] | Z-Morek: | I'm a clueless noob |
| [23:14:00] | Z-Morek: | I managed to get my mythbox working through some fluke and the wilsonet guide |
| [23:14:00] | Z-Morek: | is there an easy way to change the bootup runlevel? |
| [23:15:00] | D-side: | is it fedora? |
| [23:15:00] | Z-Morek: | so I can go to bash instead of the kdelogin screen |
| [23:15:00] | Z-Morek: | fc3 |
| [23:15:00] | D-side: | edit /etc/inittab |
| [23:15:00] | D-side: | its commented, so you'll see how that works. |
| [23:15:00] | Z-Morek: | now if only I can find my rescue disc |
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| [23:22:00] | Z-Morek: | is it worth it to migrate to fc4? |
| [23:22:00] | D-side: | doubt it. |
| [23:24:00] | k-man: | is there a trick to being able to watch dvds? |
| [23:24:00] | k-man: | when i try and open a DVD it says "can't open file Video_ts.ifo" |
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| [23:28:00] | directhex: | you need decss |
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| [23:34:00] | Z-Morek: | ok so now I have more issues |
| [23:34:00] | Z-Morek: | I got the fc4 rescue cd |
| [23:35:00] | Z-Morek: | and since I'm running this on a TV rather than a monitor when IT attempts to start X, it uses an incorrect refresh etc. for the TV |
| [23:35:00] | Z-Morek: | and since I'm using some cheapo walmart keyboard that isn't a standard keyboard, the f-keys don't work right |
| [23:36:00] | Z-Morek: | so I have no idea what options to use |
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| [23:37:00] | k-man: | directhex, yeah, i have decss |
| [23:38:00] | ** Tommck smiles because someone else is having issues playing DVDs apparently ** | |
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| [23:38:00] | k-man: | Z-Morek, can you plug in a normal keyboard? |
| [23:38:00] | Z-Morek: | murrrr |
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| [23:39:00] | ilpavox: | stupid question: just found out you can install mythtv on xbox. how does the video get to mythtv first? i thought an xbox only has a video-in, no v-out? |
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| [23:40:00] | ilpavox: | i mean the other way around |
| [23:40:00] | Tommck: | ilpavox – the network. |
| [23:40:00] | Tommck: | it's a front-end only |
| [23:41:00] | ilpavox: | so no video actually goes through the xbox? |
| [23:41:00] | Tommck: | through? |
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| [23:42:00] | Tommck: | it displays it |
| [23:42:00] | ilpavox: | features like pausing video would be impossible without a video-in in the xbox right? |
| [23:42:00] | Tommck: | it has to be recorded elswhere (thus "front-end only") |
| [23:42:00] | Tommck: | no |
| [23:42:00] | Tommck: | ilpavox – do you have Myth now? |
| [23:42:00] | ilpavox: | nope. been reading up on it. thinking about using it |
| [23:42:00] | Tommck: | oh ok |
| [23:43:00] | Tommck: | Myth has 2 "apps"... a backend and a frontend |
| [23:43:00] | slePP: | Beirdo: boo |
| [23:43:00] | Tommck: | you can have one or more of both.. |
| [23:43:00] | Tommck: | they can run on any machine. |
| [23:43:00] | Tommck: | the "backend" does all the scheduling and recording.. |
| [23:43:00] | Tommck: | the frontend does the displaying... |
| [23:43:00] | Tommck: | you can run both on one machine |
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| [23:43:00] | Tommck: | but an XBox can only be a frontend, thus requiring a separate backend. |
| [23:43:00] | Tommck: | when you have a remote frontend, it gets the video over the network. |
| [23:44:00] | Tommck: | (from the backend) |
| [23:44:00] | ilpavox: | give me an example backend in an xbox situation? |
| [23:44:00] | NightBird: | a computer with a capture card |
| [23:44:00] | Tommck: | ilpavox – ANY pc with MythTV installed on it sitting on the same Lan running the backend |
| [23:45:00] | ilpavox: | so where is the bennefit? you can have the pc in a different room from the frontend or something? |
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| [23:45:00] | Tommck: | ilpavox – you can have one machine as a combined front/back end in one room... and the XBox as a frontend in another... running off the same set of recordings |
| [23:45:00] | grendel970: | anyone using xv with a pvr-350? I'm having a problem which shows green and purple blocks with xv usage, normal x11 works fine.. |
| [23:45:00] | Tommck: | the Xbox is also the cheapest way to output HDTV too |
| [23:46:00] | ilpavox: | got ya |
| [23:46:00] | ilpavox: | thanks for the info |
| [23:46:00] | Tommck: | (considering it's a whole PC for $200 or whatever it is now) |
| [23:46:00] | Tommck: | np |
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| [23:51:00] | Z-Morek: | whew... fixed |
| [23:51:00] | Z-Morek: | I swapped to a different keyboard, found out I had to boot using the paramater nofb |
| [23:51:00] | D-side: | Tommck: thats what i'm hoping for. :) |
| [23:51:00] | Tommck: | D-side – hoping for what? |
| [23:52:00] | D-side: | hdtv through a tv. |
| [23:52:00] | D-side: | er, s/tv/xbox |
| [23:52:00] | Tommck: | D-side – ah... I have it from a PC already... didn't want to screw up my XBox anyway |
| [23:53:00] | ** Tommck is hoping to be able to get xine to actually play a DVD some day ** | |
| [23:53:00] | D-side: | i'd like to not have to mess around with the pc+tv stuff, so i'm aiming for an xbox frontend. |
| [23:53:00] | D-side: | what kind of xine problems? |
| [23:53:00] | Tommck: | I didnt' want to mess around with soldering and stuff |
| [23:53:00] | D-side: | Tommck: oh certainly not. thats why i'm going with a solderless chip. |
| [23:53:00] | Tommck: | it doesnt' seem to understand something... says it's missing a plugin or something |
| [23:53:00] | Tommck: | D-side – how much does that cost? |
| [23:54:00] | D-side: | Tommck: about $80 |
| [23:54:00] | Tommck: | not bad, I guess |
| [23:54:00] | D-side: | you could always softmod it, but that requires materials that are close to that amount anyway |
| [23:55:00] | k-man: | does one mount dvd's in the same way as one mounts cds? |
| [23:55:00] | D-side: | sort of. |
| [23:55:00] | D-side: | usually its a UDF filesystem instead of iso9660 |
| [23:55:00] | k-man: | oh |
| [23:55:00] | k-man: | i see |
| [23:55:00] | k-man: | so -t udf? |
| [23:55:00] | D-side: | yep |
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| [23:56:00] | D-side: | provided you've got that supported in your kernel |
| [23:56:00] | k-man: | yeah |
| [23:56:00] | jcb: | is there any downside when using directfb compared to X? |
| [23:56:00] | k-man: | i think my dvd drive might be a dud |
| [23:56:00] | k-man: | although it worked fine for cds |
| [23:56:00] | k-man: | but its having problems mounting a dvd |
| [23:57:00] | grendel970: | anyone using a pvr-350 with ivtv drivers and XV? I'm getting green and purple blocks for XV output, but normal X11 works fine.. |
| [23:57:00] | Tommck: | D-side – might you be able to help with the xine issues I'm having? |
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| [23:59:00] | k-man: | ah, that was the problem, it was trying to mount it as iso9660 |
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