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| [00:06:00] | snL20: | i'm getting distorted sound while watching on my pvr350, what's the chance it's not heat related ? |
| [00:07:00] | jonK: | what leads you to conclude it might be heat related in the first place? |
| [00:09:00] | snL20: | jonK: just something I read on the faq for ivtv iirc |
| [00:09:00] | sparky_elite: | snL20, I put a fan right next to my 2 cards |
| [00:09:00] | sparky_elite: | they were running damned hot |
| [00:11:00] | snL20: | sparky_elite: well, I only have one pvr350 but I'm getting distorted on and off sound sometimes it's clear sometimes it's distorted like bad reception or something but the picture is clear enough |
| [00:11:00] | snL20: | sparky_elite: maybe it's just reception |
| [00:12:00] | shfifty: | i created a link "/dev/lirc" to "/dev/ttyS0" but it gets removed everytime i reboot. is there a way to keep it from being deleted? and if not whats the best way to recreate it on reboot? |
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| [00:16:00] | lucas: | shfifty: not really my area of expertise, but I usually go look into my udev configuration when that sort of stuff happens to me. |
| [00:17:00] | REyM]: | can anyone give me nice howto to build mpeg2 chip support from the epia in xorg? |
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| [00:28:00] | crouton: | howdy folks |
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| [00:31:00] | poonj: | anyone here get nuvexport to work? |
| [00:31:00] | travolta: | poonj, yea |
| [00:32:00] | poonj: | travolta |
| [00:32:00] | poonj: | I'm having trouble |
| [00:32:00] | poonj: | I'm trying to export a file...and I'm using nuvexport --debug |
| [00:32:00] | poonj: | when I run /usr/bin/nice -n19 ffmpeg -f rawvideo -s 640x480 -r 29.970 -i /tmp/fifodir_28297/vidout -f yuv4mpegpipe – 2> /dev/null | /usr/bin/nice -n19 yuvdenoise -r 16 -f -b 12,10,-12,-10 2> /dev/null | /usr/bin/nice -n19 ffmpeg -hq -y -f s16le -ar 48000 -ac 2 -i /tmp/fifodir_28297/audout -f yuv4mpegpipe -s 640x480 -aspect 1.3333 -r 29.970 -i – -aspect 1.3333 -r 29.970 -deinterlace -croptop 10 -cropbottom 10 -cropleft 12 -cropr |
| [00:32:00] | poonj: | ight 12 -padleft 2 -padright 2 -s 620x464 -vcodec mpeg4 -b 1100 -lumi_mask 0.05 -dark_mask 0.02 -scplx_mask 0.5 -4mv -part -vtag divx -acodec mp3 -ab 128 -f avi "./2005 Pro Football Hall of Fame Induction.avi" 2>&1 |
| [00:32:00] | poonj: | actually, before that |
| [00:33:00] | Mrgoose: | so i assume most of you all are using nvidia drivers. How can i get video to show up just on my Television and not CRT. I would like mythtv to show up on CRT & TV , but when i start playing video for it to just show up on the Television. with ati drivers there is an overlay option . |
| [00:33:00] | poonj: | /usr/bin/nice -n19 mythtranscode --showprogress -p autodetect -c 1002 -s 2005–08 -02-23-00–00 -f "/tmp/fifodir_24723/" 2>&1 |
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| [00:33:00] | poonj: | the files in /tmp/fifodir_24723 aren't even increasing in size, they are 0 in size |
| [00:33:00] | poonj: | so I'm assuming nothing is happening, even though mythtranscode seems to run |
| [00:33:00] | xris: | poonj: fifo's are always zero |
| [00:33:00] | poonj: | I see.. |
| [00:34:00] | xris: | they're fifo's |
| [00:34:00] | poonj: | but then when I run the next comman |
| [00:34:00] | poonj: | I get an error |
| [00:34:00] | poonj: | first in first out |
| [00:34:00] | xris: | poonj: and buffered in RAM |
| [00:34:00] | poonj: | pipe:: Error while opening file |
| [00:34:00] | poonj: | thats what I get when I run the next command on the fork |
| [00:34:00] | xris: | poonj: haven't we gone over this before? turn off denoise |
| [00:34:00] | poonj: | okay |
| [00:34:00] | poonj: | I tried that before |
| [00:34:00] | poonj: | nothing happened |
| [00:35:00] | poonj: | I'll give it another run in a bit |
| [00:35:00] | poonj: | I gotta go |
| [00:35:00] | poonj: | brb |
| [00:35:00] | crouton: | poonj: could you stop hitting the enter key so much? |
| [00:35:00] | poonj: | sorry crouton |
| [00:36:00] | Mrgoose: | any ideas xris |
| [00:36:00] | xris: | Mrgoose: I don't have nvidia |
| [00:41:00] | enyc: | HRrmr |
| [00:43:00] | rah: | 0000:00:09.0 Network controller: Techsan Electronics Co Ltd B2C2 FlexCopII DVB chip / Technisat SkyStar2 DVB card (rev 02) |
| [00:43:00] | rah: | 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) |
| [00:43:00] | rah: | 0000:00:0a.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11) |
| [00:43:00] | rah: | 0000:00:0c.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 46) |
| [00:43:00] | rah: | 0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) |
| [00:43:00] | rah: | 0000:00:0d.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11) |
| [00:43:00] | rah: | 0000:00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 02) |
| [00:43:00] | rah: | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G550 AGP (rev 01) |
| [00:43:00] | Mrgoose: | ok |
| [00:44:00] | rah: | nee ner :P |
| [00:48:00] | poonj: | hey xris: I'm missing the dvix codec.. |
| [00:49:00] | xris: | poonj: what distro? |
| [00:49:00] | poonj: | xris: debina |
| [00:49:00] | xris: | hmm, I think that's a known issue.. dunno what to do about it, though. |
| [00:49:00] | poonj: | meaning it cant' find the dvix codec? |
| [00:50:00] | xris: | it's compiled into ffmpeg |
| [00:50:00] | poonj: | I see |
| [00:50:00] | xris: | debian packagers opted not to include it |
| [00:50:00] | poonj: | I see... |
| [00:50:00] | poonj: | which one is? |
| [00:50:00] | xris: | ? |
| [00:51:00] | Mrgoose: | are there any overlay options for nvidia? |
| [00:51:00] | poonj: | is it just dvix that was left out out of all the ones available in nuvexport? |
| [00:52:00] | xris: | I don't know |
| [00:52:00] | xris: | nuvexport checks for some of that stuff. dunno why it wouldn't have caught that option. |
| [00:52:00] | xris: | or are you not using the latest nuvexport? |
| [00:52:00] | poonj: | I believe I am |
| [00:52:00] | xris: | which version? |
| [00:53:00] | poonj: | trying to find out |
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| [00:53:00] | poonj: | is there a command line option like -V to get it? |
| [00:53:00] | xris: | grep VERSION /usr/bin/nuvexport |
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| [00:54:00] | poonj: | 0.2 0.20050605.cvs |
| [00:54:00] | xris: | 0.20050723.cvs |
| [00:54:00] | xris: | that's the latest. don't know what the difference btween them is, though. |
| [00:54:00] | xris: | the ffmpeg option checker was before 0605 |
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| [00:59:00] | poonj: | ummm |
| [01:00:00] | poonj: | hey xris: I'm getting an error with the new nuvexport that it can't find mysql.txt. where does the program look for that file? |
| [01:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, hey question for ya |
| [01:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if you are around stil |
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| [01:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am wanting to do some strange features to mythbrowser and I was wondering if you had any ideas on how to go about it |
| [01:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I want to make it so either mozilla is used or whatever I really dont care what browser |
| [01:02:00] | xris: | poonj: all over the place. |
| [01:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am trying to get it so when I go to afl.com.au I can use mplayerplug-in and view streaming videos of the footy matchs |
| [01:02:00] | xris: | where is your mysql.txt file? |
| [01:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont think that its able to be done with the default mythbrowser is it? I dont know the limitations of that browser |
| [01:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | If that is possible it would make it 10 tons eaiser to do what I want |
| [01:03:00] | k-man_: | why would I not be getting audio on some of my digital channels? |
| [01:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is mythbrowser based off of konqueror? |
| [01:03:00] | k-man_: | the channel works fine, but no audio |
| [01:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | SlicerDicer-: There is nothing stopping you from launching any app or browser you like without having to touch the code |
| [01:05:00] | xris: | k-man_: define "digital"... atsc, firewire? |
| [01:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | just edit the theme and add an entry to launch the app you want |
| [01:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | as for mythbrowser, I have no idea about the code since I've never installed it on any machine |
| [01:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx, I realise that but I cannot control mozilla with my remote |
| [01:06:00] | poonj: | I'm an idiot...but yeah, its working |
| [01:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I keep having issues with mozilla running so when I quit it I have a hell of a time making myth work |
| [01:06:00] | xris: | poonj: ? |
| [01:06:00] | poonj: | however, when I try dvix, it doesn't work |
| [01:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I guess I could just modify my exec scripts to have it kill mozilla |
| [01:06:00] | poonj: | there isn't that "check" you're talking about |
| [01:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | SlicerDicer-: I'm sorry can you explain that a little more clearly. What is the problem with mozilla(other than no remote control) ? |
| [01:07:00] | k-man_: | xris, dvb-t |
| [01:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx, I dont know for some reason it kicks windows behind myth making it so it thinks its still in browser mode and beigns that myth cannot kill mozilla it makes it so I cannot control it |
| [01:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its a big pain in the ass |
| [01:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it works just takes a shit ton of work to make it do what I want |
| [01:08:00] | poonj: | actually |
| [01:08:00] | poonj: | the check exists, but for divx, it shows that its working |
| [01:08:00] | xris: | k-man_: odd, dvb cards just take the signal and store it, no encoding involved |
| [01:08:00] | xris: | odd |
| [01:08:00] | poonj: | I need lvemux and avidemux2 to encode to mpeg2....are there packages in debian for that? |
| [01:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | SlicerDicer-:I'm still not clear on this. WHAT windows are behind myth? popup windows? mozilla itself? other applications |
| [01:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mozilla itself somehow moves itself behind |
| [01:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | not a popup window |
| [01:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just a blank mozilla browser |
| [01:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | And you are running a window manager right ? |
| [01:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | hrm, weird |
| [01:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yes |
| [01:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am running fluxbox to make it fast |
| [01:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | *shrug* |
| [01:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | less memory used etc |
| [01:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never had a single focus issue with myth, but I've also never gotten it to launch a browser, either external or plugin |
| [01:10:00] | xris: | poonj: no, you don't. you need those for mpeg2cut |
| [01:10:00] | poonj: | okay |
| [01:10:00] | xris: | lvemux is in the "lve" package... and avidemux2 is sometimes called avidemux |
| [01:10:00] | poonj: | I just tried DVD (option 5) and it gets stuck |
| [01:10:00] | k-man_: | xris, yeah, i just discovered its even more odd, the sound works when i first load mythtv on sbs, but if i change channel, then change back to sbs, no audio on sbs |
| [01:11:00] | k-man_: | xris, but this doesn't happen with other channels |
| [01:11:00] | xris: | poonj: sounds like debian leaves a bunch of stuff out of its ffmpeg (rightfully so — mpeg stuff is not gpl compatible) |
| [01:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx, may I send you a message private? |
| [01:12:00] | poonj: | xris: is it something I can do to install it myself? |
| [01:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | I prefer to keep channel stuff here. one less window for me to cycle too :) |
| [01:12:00] | xris: | poonj: yeah, you can always compile stuff by hand. |
| [01:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well it would be spam GreyFoxx |
| [01:12:00] | xris: | or turn on the universe archive |
| [01:12:00] | poonj: | okay |
| [01:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | then use pastebin |
| [01:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok |
| [01:13:00] | poonj: | universe archieve? |
| [01:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | cause msging it to me will just have my stuff auto ignore you for flooding me |
| [01:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZOfD9326.html |
| [01:13:00] | xris: | poonj: the apt archive titled "universe" |
| [01:13:00] | xris: | as opposed to "world" |
| [01:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have the ability to launch mythfrontend by pushing the powerbutton |
| [01:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but I was thinking of having the go button kill mozilla |
| [01:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does that sound like it might work? |
| [01:13:00] | xris: | has all of the not-quite-legal stuff in it like mp3 support, etc. |
| [01:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | SlicerDicer-: I would assume it would work |
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| [01:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | k testing it |
| [01:14:00] | poonj: | xris: so instead of using unstable, use universe? |
| [01:16:00] | k-man_: | gtg |
| [01:16:00] | k-man_: | byue |
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| [01:17:00] | xris: | poonj: or use both. I don't know much about debian. universe is the "extra" stuff that debian can't legally give you because it's not gpl-compatible. |
| [01:17:00] | xris: | might be better off waiting for someone who actually knows debian |
| [01:17:00] | poonj: | okay |
| [01:17:00] | poonj: | let me ask in the debian channel |
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| [01:20:00] | jonK: | oh they can distribute it. They choose not to, or at least they choose to distribute it seperately from applications distributed under the terms of the GPL |
| [01:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx, its not sending a kill signal |
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| [01:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | SlicerDicer-: Not being a lirc user I can only suggest looking for some sort of logging to see if it A: saw the button press, B: attempted to execute the command, or C: Got an error back |
| [01:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe it expects quotes around commands with parameters? I can only guess |
| [01:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well the odd thing is the myth part works |
| [01:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | perhaps |
| [01:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am still learning this LIRC stuff |
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| [01:33:00] | Randall64: | So Comcast says I need a cable box to get analog channels. Is there any way to bypass them and avoid renting another box? |
| [01:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | you only want analog? |
| [01:39:00] | Randall64: | yeah |
| [01:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | why not all the channels and control the comcast box with a rs232 via dctchannel |
| [01:40:00] | Randall64: | > 1 tv |
| [01:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have 2 cableboxes one for tv 1 for myth :) |
| [01:40:00] | enyc: | surely for analog channels you can just get a cable-reciever-card ? |
| [01:40:00] | Randall64: | Yes, that's what I'm hoping to avoid. |
| [01:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well just plug in the coax to the back of a pvr and your good |
| [01:40:00] | Chacabaou: | I'm trying to build a backend-only on a machine without any monitor. The compiling failed at "/libmyth-0.18.so: undefined reference to `LircClient::LircClient(QObject*)'"...what's wrong? |
| [01:40:00] | Chacabaou: | LIRC isn't even needed with --disable-frontend. |
| [01:40:00] | Randall64: | No, my capture cards only see their bottom tier of service, not the next analog tier. |
| [01:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what you mean? |
| [01:41:00] | Randall64: | I get untuned junk on channels I get with my box. |
| [01:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | are you talkning about channels past 125? |
| [01:41:00] | enyc: | chac: maybe something in the myth libraries needs LIRC somewhere ;-) |
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| [01:41:00] | Randall64: | Slicer: no |
| [01:42:00] | enyc: | chac: you may just .. need some header files from lirc sources to get it to build, solong as you dont use lirc.. but i suspect you may need lirc installed, even if you dont _use_ lirc |
| [01:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what card are you using? |
| [01:42:00] | Chacabaou: | enyc: The doesn't make any sense, since LIRC is disabled automatically with --disable-frontend. |
| [01:42:00] | Randall64: | hauppauge bt878 |
| [01:42:00] | Chacabaou: | enyc: I'll try... |
| [01:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no idea about that card sorry Randall64 |
| [01:43:00] | Randall64: | Slicer: I don't think it's related to the card itself. |
| [01:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yes but I would have no idea where to troubleshoot with that thing |
| [01:43:00] | Randall64: | I saw a software decoder for bttv cards some years back. |
| [01:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I know I just plugged in coax and it worked but I wanted more channels so I learned how to control the cablebox via rs232 and got a extra dct2000 model "L" that allows me to control it |
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| [01:44:00] | enyc: | chac: yes, but the code may still have 'definitions' relating to headers of LIRC and it may not build without them |
| [01:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | now I use svideo out on my cablebox for really good video quality |
| [01:44:00] | Randall64: | Digital channels are different in New England, most channels are still analog afaik. |
| [01:44:00] | setre: | How would I best go about automatically running startx at boot when booting gentoo? (without x-/g-kdm) |
| [01:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xdm |
| [01:44:00] | Randall64: | Slicer: Your advice, while generally applicable to some, isn't here. |
| [01:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nano /etc/rc.conf |
| [01:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | down at the bottom Setre |
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| [01:44:00] | setre: | SlicerDicer-: does xdm handle automatic login? |
| [01:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then use gdm or kdm and specify your stufr |
| [01:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sure if you do it right |
| [01:45:00] | Randall64: | What's rc.conf? |
| [01:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have kdm autologin fluxbox for me |
| [01:45:00] | Randall64: | Some gentooism or something? |
| [01:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then launch mythfrontend |
| [01:45:00] | setre: | yes, kdm and gdm supports it but not xdm |
| [01:45:00] | setre: | AFAIK |
| [01:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | correct setre |
| [01:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but in rc.conf you can specify what xdm launch be it kdm or gdm |
| [01:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | let me grab you a snippit |
| [01:45:00] | setre: | I know that |
| [01:46:00] | setre: | thanks |
| [01:46:00] | setre: | I wanted to do it withoud a DM |
| [01:46:00] | setre: | -out |
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| [01:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | What display manager do you use ? [ xdm | gdm | kdm | entrance ] |
| [01:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm" |
| [01:46:00] | Mrgoose: | anyone with nvidia drivers using two screens and export DISPLAY=:1 |
| [01:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | setre, why? |
| [01:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what does it matter? |
| [01:46:00] | Chacabaou: | enyc: That would actually screw every non-lirc-user...hard to believe... |
| [01:47:00] | setre: | saves some boot time? |
| [01:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | why use a dm at all ? |
| [01:47:00] | enyc: | chac: i really dont know ;-) |
| [01:47:00] | setre: | GreyFoxx: exactly |
| [01:47:00] | EL_Whistey: | dm will restart myth if it crashes |
| [01:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | setre, on my 1.4ghz it boots inside 30 seconds how much faster do you wnat it |
| [01:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeash... |
| [01:47:00] | enyc: | chac: evne with lirc build, it may not need the lirc to run.. so peopel using packages etc. may not notice and so-forth... |
| [01:47:00] | Chacabaou: | enyc: But you were right. ;) Now, I get the same error with ALSA. |
| [01:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | EL_Whistey: I don't see that as a plus |
| [01:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | If it crashes I wanna know so that I can investigate |
| [01:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | and a single shell script could do that |
| [01:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | simple |
| [01:47:00] | EL_Whistey: | that's what the log's for. |
| [01:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | are you really in that big of a hurry that you cant deal with extra three seconds for kdm to launch fluxbox setre? |
| [01:48:00] | enyc: | chac: or, their packager/build-manager installs lirc anyway.. the fact io goes "can't connect to lirc" does NOT matter and does NOT 'screw them' ;-) |
| [01:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | EL_Whistey: assuming the crash occurs AFTER a log entry is sent :) |
| [01:48:00] | Randall64: | ahh, fscktv |
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| [01:48:00] | setre: | GreyFoxx: how do you start x from you boot script? using su? |
| [01:48:00] | EL_Whistey: | mythfront can log. |
| [01:48:00] | EL_Whistey: | using inittab |
| [01:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | EL_Whistey: That was what I was referring to. It can not log if it dies before a log entry would be sent |
| [01:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | setre: basically yeah |
| [01:49:00] | setre: | ok |
| [01:49:00] | setre: | thanks guys |
| [01:50:00] | Randall64: | fscktv is abandonware it seems |
| [01:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | rc.local calls rc.pvr which loads the ivtv modules, loads the driver for my remote, and calls rc.mythtv to start mythbackend, and finally an su'd startx to launch X |
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| [01:50:00] | EL_Whistey: | Well, heh, if mythtv dies before it can even log, then I would think that was *more* reason to use it under a dm and a wm. |
| [01:50:00] | poonj: | xris: I wish I could get nuvexport to work....I don't wnat to delete the programs I recorded |
| [01:50:00] | EL_Whistey: | that is, if it's crashing like that, it's not really in a deployable state. |
| [01:50:00] | poonj: | but I'm running out of space! |
| [01:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | EL_Whistey: who said anything about not usinjg a WM ? |
| [01:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just don't see the purpose of using a xdm/gdm/kdm/whatever on a single X user system |
| [01:51:00] | EL_Whistey: | In my experience, there's no such thing. |
| [01:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | well I'd wager that MOST peoples systems, mythtv or not only have a single X user almost all the time |
| [01:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | and especially on adedicated myth box |
| [01:52:00] | EL_Whistey: | That's not really the same thing. I have my personal login, mythtv and root. |
| [01:53:00] | EL_Whistey: | admittedly, I ssh in for everything else, and have gdm set up to just login as mythtv, but still. |
| [01:53:00] | Ashlar: | GreyFoxx, without a WM, focus becomes an issue.. you've seen it, folks come in without a wm and they can't get mplayer in focus |
| [01:53:00] | EL_Whistey: | When my spousal attack unit is using the system, I want it to restart on a crash. gdm does that well. |
| [01:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Which brings it back to , setting up a login manager for a system that runs X as a single user almost esclusively makes no sens |
| [01:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ashlar: Who said anything about not using a WM? I certainly didn't say not to use a window manager :) |
| [01:54:00] | Ashlar: | ahh, misunderstood |
| [01:54:00] | EL_Whistey: | And while I certainly could set it up as a daemon, and/or write a shell script to restart it, since gdm does the job I don't see why. |
| [01:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm referring to a graphical login manager |
| [01:54:00] | Ashlar: | ahhh |
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| [02:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use a small set of initscripts set to let me disable any or all pieces of it at bootup if need be |
| [02:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | but in the end, I guess as long as whatever you have works, it's good enough |
| [02:02:00] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, can you do me a favor and hold down the down arrow button on your niveus remote and see if it stops after less then a min of constant use and then won't start working again for a min |
| [02:02:00] | hadees: | i am still not sure if it is my remote or the driver |
| [02:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | just did 30 seconds or so of it with nothing happening |
| [02:04:00] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, its so strang my stops working for a little while then starts again |
| [02:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | I could see it stopping for a couple seconds, but a minute is pretty extreme |
| [02:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never seen anything like that happen with it |
| [02:05:00] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, what i don't get is why it starts working again |
| [02:09:00] | hadees: | it just seems like some kind of buffer is filling up though because if i keep pressing it like i'll get one press after a little while and it will stop again then one more after alittle |
| [02:09:00] | hadees: | like it is clearing something |
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| [02:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | well like I mentioned there are timers and countersswetup to limit the repeat rate but those are only a few seconds, nothing that would last a minute |
| [02:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | otherthan that I can't even guess what it is, especially since I can't duplicate the behaviour |
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| [02:23:00] | Mrgoose: | anyone know how to start mythtv using export DISPLAY=:1 |
| [02:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | "DISPLAY=:1 mythfrontend" |
| [02:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | or export DISPLAY=:1 |
| [02:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythfrontend |
| [02:24:00] | Mrgoose: | so how would the mouse know which display to work on? |
| [02:25:00] | Mrgoose: | like right now my mouse is only workin on DISPLAY=0 |
| [02:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | You define input devices and such in the serverlayout, so I would assume that as long as the server layout is correct and the mouse isn't already in use it would work |
| [02:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | why are you running 2 servers? |
| [02:29:00] | Mrgoose: | well im using the nvidia drivers and i wanted video to only show up on the TV. I wanted X to show up on the CRT and TV but video to just show up on TV |
| [02:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | and.... |
| [02:29:00] | Mrgoose: | and this seems to be the only way to do it |
| [02:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not really |
| [02:29:00] | Mrgoose: | whats another solution |
| [02:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | So you are NOT looking to have a clone of the tv on the CRT right? You could always have "one" big screen with one part on the tv and the other on the CRT |
| [02:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | basically xinerama like |
| [02:31:00] | Mrgoose: | true |
| [02:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | and if you are just trying to keep the video from trying to fullscreen accross both that's a simple matter of configuring Myth |
| [02:31:00] | Mrgoose: | two servers seems t work nice so far |
| [02:31:00] | Mrgoose: | any downsides you know of? |
| [02:31:00] | Mrgoose: | to using it? |
| [02:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | none in particular |
| [02:32:00] | Mrgoose: | how long till .19 comes out you think? |
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| [02:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | No idea |
| [02:32:00] | Mrgoose: | cool |
| [02:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | There hasn't even been a hint of talk about it that I have seen |
| [02:32:00] | k-man: | i have a dvb-t tuner in my mythbox |
| [02:32:00] | k-man: | and i get good reception on all channels except ABC and ABC2 |
| [02:34:00] | Mrgoose: | its amazing how they were able to program all of this |
| [02:34:00] | k-man: | when i do the channel search |
| [02:34:00] | k-man: | it got about 30% signal strength |
| [02:34:00] | k-man: | and also about 30% signal to noise ratio |
| [02:34:00] | k-man: | do you think an antenna amp would help? |
| [02:35:00] | k-man: | will boosting the signal strength help at all? |
| [02:36:00] | Agrajag-: | has anyone here done any of the hacks to be able to use two keyboards on two different X screens before? |
| [02:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Agrajag-: I setup something like that once with usb keyboard on one, and a ps2 keyboard on the other(1 agp video card and 1 pci). But that was only for a while when my GF's system was broken and I was waiting for new hardware |
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| [02:47:00] | Agrajag-: | ah k. im thinking i can probably do it with the one video card. i've got the two screens things happening |
| [02:47:00] | Agrajag-: | but i dunno if it's worth doing the 2 keyboard thing |
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| [02:47:00] | Agrajag-: | see the thing is, my usb remote identifies itself as a keyboard |
| [02:48:00] | Agrajag-: | so if i want to control myth, i have to give it focus |
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| [02:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [02:48:00] | Agrajag-: | i can't think of any other workaround |
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| [02:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Agrajag-: My remote is treated like a keyboard as well. But I use it on a single X server system so I've never had to consider anything else :) |
| [02:49:00] | Mrgoose: | GreyFoxx: will running two screens create a problem with LIRC? |
| [02:49:00] | Mrgoose: | im using a packard bell serial receiver |
| [02:49:00] | Agrajag-: | say i used a different remote.. how does lirc work? would mythfrontend still need focus? |
| [02:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mrgoose: I have never used lirc, I wouldn't know. Probably not though |
| [02:49:00] | Mrgoose: | oh |
| [02:50:00] | Mrgoose: | heh i thought you had to use lirc with mythtv |
| [02:50:00] | Agrajag-: | i dont use lirc either |
| [02:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [02:50:00] | Agrajag-: | so even with lirc, mythfrontend would still need focus right? |
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| [02:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Agrajag-: I wouldn';t think so |
| [02:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | I believe lirc can be used to send keystrokes as well as just keycodes directly to the app that supports it |
| [02:51:00] | Agrajag-: | oh really.. i have another analogue card that has a normal remote receiver thingy.. maybe i can use that |
| [02:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | but since I don't use lirc I can't be 100% certain |
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| [03:04:00] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, do you know any other remotes that are like the ati and niveus, seems i can't buy any more niveus remotes |
| [03:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | the niveous are going to be coming back supposedly, thought I don't know if there will be any changes to them |
| [03:06:00] | hadees: | bah i need a custom myth remote |
| [03:06:00] | hadees: | is anyone doing anythign with that wifi program |
| [03:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't know :) |
| [03:07:00] | hadees: | it wasn't just to you |
| [03:07:00] | hadees: | a general question |
| [03:07:00] | hadees: | i have the worst luck |
| [03:07:00] | hadees: | stuiped remote |
| [03:07:00] | hadees: | stupid |
| [03:07:00] | hadees: | damn |
| [03:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | load the module with debug=1 and watch yor kernel log |
| [03:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | see if it's seeing the key presses at least |
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| [03:18:00] | rabies: | does mythtv use mplayer or xine for playback? |
| [03:19:00] | dhofstra: | rabies, mythtv uses it's own internal player for television playback. for video playback, however, you can specify xine or mplayer to your liking. |
| [03:19:00] | rabies: | okay |
| [03:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | or you can use the same internal player as is used for tv playback |
| [03:19:00] | rabies: | cause xv hardware scaling is freezing on both mplayer and mythtv |
| [03:19:00] | rabies: | and i dont know why |
| [03:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | can't say I've ever seen that happen |
| [03:22:00] | rabies: | really? |
| [03:23:00] | rabies: | its a Vertigo GeForce 6200 |
| [03:23:00] | rabies: | its quite annoying cause it means i have to make my resolution the same as the video o-O |
| [03:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup, I've never had it happen. Tried different driver versions I assume ? |
| [03:23:00] | rabies: | yeah |
| [03:24:00] | rabies: | tried 6995 and 7113 |
| [03:24:00] | rabies: | or something like that |
| [03:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've had various XV related issues will all versions after 6629. Not the one you describe, but others. So I've stuck with 6629 which other seems to work fine for me |
| [03:25:00] | dhofstra: | 7664 works fine here |
| [03:25:00] | rabies: | im currently using 6629 |
| [03:26:00] | dhofstra: | 7174 on my HTPC works fine |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | dhofstra: I've tried each one as it came out and each one had some sort of XV related quirk, so I just keep going back to 6629. So from now on unless I have a specific reason to use a newer one I'll be sticking with it :) |
| [03:27:00] | dhofstra: | I have 5200 cards, and everything I ever tried seems to work.. so maybe it's a 6200 issue |
| [03:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm using all MX440's in my case. But none of them have locked my stuff up like his has |
| [03:34:00] | poonj: | hey, anyone here get nuvexport to work with debian? |
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| [03:47:00] | hadees: | i think nuvexport was coded on debian |
| [03:47:00] | CCFL_Man: | so how do i get captions from mythtv? |
| [03:50:00] | atomjack: | is there a way to remap the space key while watching TV programs to pause instead of setting a save point? there doesn't seem to be a place to do that in the keybindings editor in mythweb.. |
| [04:30:00] | xris: | hadees: hardly |
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| [04:34:00] | JayRC: | can anyone point me in the right direction to get the scripts for controlling a DCT-2000 box from the serial port? |
| [04:34:00] | Ashlar: | JayRC: unpack the myth source tar file.. contribs/ |
| [04:35:00] | JayRC: | excellent. Thank you very much! |
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| [05:02:00] | atomjack: | the gallery mode for viewing videos used to show the icons in a directory structure that i could navigate – now it simply displays every single video all together – ever since i started using the latest subversion and not the atrpms – is there any way to get it back to the way it viewed before? |
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| [05:43:00] | Hoxzer: | can I control mythTV via shell? |
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| [05:44:00] | Jay: | I'm trying to setup the changechannel.py script to change the channel on my dct-2000 box. It is sending the codes ok, but it's not sending them close enough together. Is there a way to make it send the commands closer together? |
| [05:50:00] | abarbaccia: | Jay, edit the script – you can change the sleep or pause time |
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| [05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hoxzer: There are no commandline control tools |
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| [06:22:00] | Hoxzer: | Greyfoxx: that sucks :< |
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| [06:35:00] | Hoxzer: | well I guess I gotta go sleep |
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| [06:50:00] | Cody is now known as Cody` | |
| [06:50:00] | Cody`: | can anyone tell me how to get back to where I can edit the video sources? |
| [06:50:00] | Agrajag-: | mythtv-setup ? |
| [06:50:00] | ** Cody` tries ** | |
| [06:51:00] | Cody`: | ty |
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| [08:09:00] | xris: | rtsai: man, there are a LOT of you guys around.. just watched School of Rock, and you're in that, too... |
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| [08:22:00] | fysa: | If I'm formatting a new drive for myth use with xfs, what is the recommended inode/sector size? |
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| [09:05:00] | ricky_: | Ciao a tutti, qualcuno parla italiano ? |
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| [09:09:00] | thechris: | anyone know how to flash the bios on an ASUS a8v POS mobo? |
| [09:09:00] | ricky_: | i try to write in english... |
| [09:11:00] | ricky_: | i've a kanotix, a debian-like distro, and i've installed all of the file mythtv with synaptic, but the program not run, it say me some problem with backends... someone can help me ? |
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| [09:14:00] | smoke_: | anyone here using ati remote wonder? |
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| [09:18:00] | thechris: | \me hates his ASUS a8v. can't install windows... can't boot with mce500... can't flash bios without windows... |
| [09:18:00] | thechris: | oh |
| [09:19:00] | thechris: | i hate dos |
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| [09:26:00] | mchou: | thechris: you can flash bios w/o winows |
| [09:26:00] | mchou: | windows |
| [09:26:00] | mchou: | alt-F2 |
| [09:26:00] | thechris: | mchou: hmm. |
| [09:26:00] | thechris: | i may have to try that |
| [09:27:00] | mchou: | thechris: you ought to read the goddamn manual |
| [09:27:00] | mchou: | you get a floppy disk drive from campus? |
| [09:27:00] | thechris: | asus could also put instructions on the website in the "how to flash" section |
| [09:27:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [09:28:00] | thechris: | i got a dos boot cd |
| [09:28:00] | mchou: | not everthing is "on the internet" |
| [09:28:00] | thechris: | 1.4 of 700MB full |
| [09:28:00] | mchou: | well, that might work |
| [09:28:00] | thechris: | also, i somehow destroyed linux |
| [09:28:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [09:28:00] | thechris: | xterm no longer runs |
| [09:28:00] | mchou: | why does that not surprise me? |
| [09:28:00] | thechris: | kde won't work either |
| [09:29:00] | thechris: | but on the good side, i did get a 17" monitor for free |
| [09:29:00] | mchou: | Alt F2 I doubt works on a CD, but you can try.... |
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| [09:29:00] | mchou: | thechris: is that from campus, the monitor? |
| [09:30:00] | thechris: | sorta |
| [09:30:00] | thechris: | the people below me moved out |
| [09:30:00] | thechris: | and didn't feel like moving their extra monitor |
| [09:30:00] | mchou: | heh. |
| [09:30:00] | mchou: | good deal |
| [09:30:00] | thechris: | i know |
| [09:30:00] | thechris: | i only had a 15" monitor |
| [09:31:00] | mchou: | lol, you still back in the stone age. |
| [09:31:00] | thechris: | of course on the other bad side the minifridge broke |
| [09:31:00] | mchou: | you are the master of disaster. |
| [09:31:00] | thechris: | man, i need to win the lottery then die... |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hi mchou |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and TheAsp :) |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | bah |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | stupid nick completion |
| [09:32:00] | mchou: | hit the jackbot, get struck by lightning the next day. What are the odds of that?? |
| [09:32:00] | ** SlicerDicer- hides in fear of being laughed at ** | |
| [09:32:00] | mchou: | hi SlicerDicer- |
| [09:32:00] | mchou: | jackpot& |
| [09:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well mchou |
| [09:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | least your medical bills would be covered ROFL!! |
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| [09:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sorry could not help it haha |
| [09:33:00] | thechris: | i hope my car is still in the lot |
| [09:33:00] | mchou: | then what's the point of winng the jackpot?:) |
| [09:33:00] | thechris: | oh, just remembered |
| [09:33:00] | thechris: | have steak and good food to eat |
| [09:33:00] | thechris: | nothing to cook it in |
| [09:34:00] | mchou: | plus the fridge broke |
| [09:34:00] | thechris: | sweet. roomate forgot to take his microwave |
| [09:34:00] | thechris: | of course its kinda flakey |
| [09:34:00] | thechris: | doesn't always work... |
| [09:34:00] | mchou: | it's probably best you throw it away. Dont want to get mad cow with your luck :) |
| [09:34:00] | thechris: | well, the minifrige with the alcohol broke |
| [09:35:00] | thechris: | i would go to the store, but i'm sure my car would break down |
| [09:35:00] | thechris: | supermodels would come to help me |
| [09:35:00] | mchou: | thechris: you born a whiner? :) |
| [09:35:00] | thechris: | then get hit by a car |
| [09:35:00] | mchou: | bike to the darn store then :) |
| [09:35:00] | thechris: | whiner or winner? |
| [09:36:00] | mchou: | you havent won jack :) |
| [09:37:00] | thechris: | free monitor |
| [09:37:00] | mchou: | that's not winning. |
| [09:37:00] | mchou: | that's a freebie. |
| [09:37:00] | mchou: | there's a difference |
| [09:38:00] | mchou: | biking at night during the summer is the bomb!! |
| [09:38:00] | thechris: | so what distro does everybody use |
| [09:39:00] | mchou: | I wonder why I never tried it during my racing days. |
| [09:39:00] | mchou: | It's so buch better than biking during the day. |
| [09:39:00] | mchou: | much* |
| [09:40:00] | mchou: | there isn't anyone on the streets. |
| [09:41:00] | mchou: | xine is all bugged out. |
| [09:44:00] | thechris: | what happened to xine |
| [09:44:00] | mchou: | it's just buggy. |
| [09:46:00] | atomjack: | anyone know of a way i could remap the spacebar key while watching live/recorded tv? neither the mythcontrols plugin nor mythweb seem to give me the option to |
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| [09:50:00] | EL_Whistey: | My god, I can see stars! |
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| [09:50:00] | atomjack: | you mean it's full of stars? |
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| [11:26:00] | k-man_: | anyone awake? |
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| [11:36:00] | XAD: | k?? |
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| [12:03:00] | k-man_: | xad? |
| [12:03:00] | laga: | 11:44 -!- XAD [N=JBouncer@c-3bb672d5.013-70-73746f51.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se ] |
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| [12:05:00] | k-man_: | oh yeah |
| [12:05:00] | k-man_: | tahnks laga |
| [12:05:00] | k-man_: | thanks for pointing out my deficiencies |
| [12:06:00] | laga: | you're always welcome |
| [12:07:00] | k-man_: | any idea why up arrow would cycle through the channels differently to down arrow? |
| [12:08:00] | k-man_: | in fact, some of my channels do not show up when i press up arrow, but show up when i press down arrow |
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| [12:38:00] | DCG: | anyone here good with firewire DCT-6200? |
| [12:38:00] | DCG: | i can "see" the cable box with plug report |
| [12:38:00] | DCG: | but FireWireChannel is complaining |
| [12:40:00] | DCG: | ah, looks like it was ownership of /dev/raw1394 |
| [12:41:00] | DCG: | dang knoppmyth |
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| [14:04:00] | k-man_: | anyone awake? |
| [14:07:00] | rw`: | boo |
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| [14:13:00] | k-man_: | so when you have 2 tuners |
| [14:13:00] | k-man_: | and your cycling through the channels watching live tv |
| [14:13:00] | k-man_: | does it go through all the channels on one tuner? |
| [14:13:00] | k-man_: | or does it go through all the channels on all tuners? |
| [14:14:00] | k-man_: | or does it go through all the unique channels |
| [14:14:00] | k-man_: | or what does it do? |
| [14:14:00] | rw`: | I don't see why it should use more then a tuner just to cycle between channels. |
| [14:15:00] | directhex|work: | if you don't have the same channels on both tuners, i suppose |
| [14:15:00] | rw`: | I guess it search for the first available tuner and use it |
| [14:16:00] | directhex|work: | as far as i can tell, it scrolls through channels as they're set up in the EPG, using the first available tuner for each channel. so if you have three tuners, and some overlap between them, it'll use the first of the three tuners, else it'll use the approprriate tuner for the channel number in question |
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| [14:16:00] | directhex|work: | i'm probably wrong on that, but that's how i understand it |
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| [14:18:00] | k-man_: | directhex|work, as far as i can tell |
| [14:18:00] | k-man_: | it doesn't really link between the channel and the tuner card |
| [14:18:00] | k-man_: | or what it mean is |
| [14:18:00] | k-man_: | it does link |
| [14:18:00] | k-man_: | ie, channel 7 on tuner 1 is differnt to channel 7 on tuner 2 isn't it? |
| [14:19:00] | k-man_: | or can i tell it somehow that hey are the same? |
| [14:19:00] | directhex|work: | it's down to how you've configured your video sources, i think |
| [14:19:00] | directhex|work: | actually, i'm gonna shut up, because i'm not certain about this, and i know how much i hate seeing the blind leading the blind |
| [14:20:00] | k-man_: | hmm |
| [14:20:00] | k-man_: | hmmm |
| [14:20:00] | k-man_: | ill look int othat a bit |
| [14:20:00] | k-man_: | whats the difference between a video source and a capture device? |
| [14:20:00] | directhex|work: | i have two identical tuners, set to use the same video source (and the same xmltv epg data) |
| [14:21:00] | k-man_: | ahh |
| [14:21:00] | k-man_: | wait |
| [14:21:00] | k-man_: | im starting to understand |
| [14:21:00] | k-man_: | i have 1 video source, ie, free to air tv |
| [14:21:00] | k-man_: | and 2 capture cards... |
| [14:21:00] | k-man_: | thats where i'm going wrong i think |
| [14:21:00] | directhex|work: | are they identical? |
| [14:21:00] | k-man_: | yes |
| [14:21:00] | k-man_: | identical |
| [14:21:00] | directhex|work: | then just set both cards to use that video source |
| [14:21:00] | k-man_: | ahh |
| [14:21:00] | k-man_: | right |
| [14:21:00] | k-man_: | i'm with you |
| [14:21:00] | k-man_: | hang on |
| [14:23:00] | k-man_: | yes, that makes more sense |
| [14:23:00] | k-man_: | thanks |
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| [14:24:00] | rw`: | k-man_, just curious, are you using a pvr500? |
| [14:27:00] | k-man_: | no |
| [14:27:00] | k-man_: | twinhan vision plus |
| [14:28:00] | k-man_: | rw`, what are you using? |
| [14:29:00] | rw`: | just a horrible bttv. |
| [14:29:00] | rw`: | but im going for a pvr. |
| [14:31:00] | laga: | good decision |
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| [14:32:00] | rw`: | for sure |
| [14:33:00] | k-man_: | a pvr? as in a pvr 5000? |
| [14:34:00] | rw`: | my employer is bringing a few pvr's so i can test it... |
| [14:34:00] | rw`: | but looks like we had a problem with the imp. exp. so it's delaying. |
| [14:35:00] | rw`: | but i will go for pvr-150 or 250. |
| [14:35:00] | rw`: | seems like the quality of 250 is much superior to 150. |
| [14:36:00] | directhex|work: | i have a pair of dvb tuners |
| [14:40:00] | rw`: | we still don't have dvb :P |
| [14:40:00] | laga: | i'll be getting dvb-t next year \o/ |
| [14:42:00] | rw`: | is it public or private dvb signal? |
| [14:43:00] | laga: | public |
| [14:43:00] | laga: | almost all the stuff i get over analog now |
| [14:44:00] | rw`: | what is the default encoding format? |
| [14:45:00] | directhex|work: | hm? |
| [14:45:00] | directhex|work: | dvb signals are mpeg2 |
| [14:45:00] | laga: | yep |
| [14:45:00] | laga: | well, there's dvb-2, iirc, with h.264 encoding |
| [14:46:00] | laga: | my pay tv provider is going that route. with some heavy DRM :/ |
| [14:46:00] | directhex|work: | okay, fine, uk dvb-t is mpeg2 |
| [14:46:00] | directhex|work: | with mp2 audio |
| [14:46:00] | directhex|work: | Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg2video, 720x576, 25.00 fps, 6500 kb/s |
| [14:46:00] | directhex|work: | Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, stereo, 256 kb/s |
| [14:46:00] | rw`: | when it reaches mpeg4 it's gonna be awesome. |
| [14:47:00] | laga: | DVB-C/-T/-S is mpeg2. |
| [14:47:00] | laga: | dunno about dvb-h |
| [14:47:00] | GraveDigger: | what does "grabbing: Can't call method "look_down" on an undefined value at /usr/bin/tv_grab_de_tvtoday line 462. |
| [14:48:00] | GraveDigger: | mean? |
| [14:48:00] | rw`: | your grabber script is broken |
| [14:48:00] | GraveDigger: | or better to say: what is wrong then? |
| [14:48:00] | GraveDigger: | damn, and what to do now? |
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| [14:48:00] | laga: | GraveDigger: check www.mythwiki.de |
| [14:48:00] | rw`: | check out xmltv devel mailing list |
| [14:49:00] | laga: | rw`: would you please let me promote my websites? ;)) |
| [14:49:00] | rw`: | laga, for sure |
| [14:49:00] | GraveDigger: | |
| [14:49:00] | laga: | rw`: just kidding ;) |
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| [14:49:00] | laga: | GraveDigger: well, i'm having some problems with my hosting. |
| [14:49:00] | rw`: | hahaha |
| [14:50:00] | laga: | GraveDigger: works fine for me, gotta be a problem with your dns. |
| [14:50:00] | laga: | http://www.mythwiki.de/mediawiki-1.4.6/index.php/Hauptseite |
| [14:50:00] | laga: | GraveDigger: or, not a real problem..it takes some time for the changes to be propagated |
| [14:50:00] | rw`: | laga, tell him what version you are using... |
| [14:51:00] | laga: | rw`: got mine from CVS |
| [14:51:00] | laga: | dunno if they already have an updated upstream release |
| [14:51:00] | rw`: | GraveDigger, I would do the same. |
| [14:51:00] | rw`: | laga, does your grabber bring the channel number? |
| [14:51:00] | laga: | nope, don't think so. |
| [14:52:00] | laga: | rw`: unfortunately, it does not |
| [14:52:00] | rw`: | so you have to set manualy right? |
| [14:52:00] | laga: | rw`: yep. |
| [14:52:00] | laga: | rw`: the new ScanWiz in mythtv-setup helps a lot, though |
| [14:52:00] | rw`: | ok :-) |
| [14:52:00] | laga: | rw`: but it still sucks :)) |
| [14:52:00] | rw`: | yeah I saw it. pretty cool. |
| [14:52:00] | rw`: | why it sucks? |
| [14:53:00] | laga: | well, i'd love to have a service like zap2it. getting a username/password, entering it in mythtv-setup and leaning back sounds cool to me ;) |
| [14:53:00] | rw`: | yeah me too. |
| [14:53:00] | laga: | GraveDigger: have you found anything useful? ;) |
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| [14:54:00] | directhex|work: | the problem with tv_gram_* is almost all of them are based on html screen scrapers |
| [14:54:00] | directhex|work: | *grab |
| [14:54:00] | directhex|work: | there are a few exceptions like uk_rt |
| [14:54:00] | rw`: | laga, i guess the usa is the only country that has a paid service. |
| [14:54:00] | laga: | yep. and tvtoday changed its website. :/ |
| [14:54:00] | directhex|work: | there's a UK paid service, but tv_grab_uk_rt is better |
| [14:55:00] | laga: | rw`: like lxmsuite.com? i'd join there if they would provide listings for europe. |
| [14:55:00] | directhex|work: | http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/$SOMECHANNELIDNUMBER.dat |
| [14:55:00] | directhex|work: | god bless the BBC, and the radio timesa |
| [14:55:00] | laga: | .oO(...god shave the queen...) |
| [14:56:00] | rw`: | laga, i though zap2it was paid... isn't? |
| [14:57:00] | laga: | rw`: fors labs.zap2it.com, you only need to take some surveys every few months or so |
| [14:57:00] | ** laga slaps GraveDigger ** | |
| [14:57:00] | rw`: | laga, do you guys have a commercial product like tivo? |
| [14:57:00] | laga: | rw`: no. |
| [14:58:00] | laga: | rw`: well, there are some PVRs, but nothing like the tivo |
| [14:58:00] | laga: | rw`: funnily enough, when this girl yesterday saw my myth box, she was like 'look! a tivo!' ;) |
| [14:58:00] | rw`: | haha! |
| [14:58:00] | rw`: | I really would like to check and test a HMC... |
| [14:59:00] | laga: | HMC? |
| [14:59:00] | rw`: | www.hmc.com.au |
| [14:59:00] | rw`: | mythtv based. |
| [14:59:00] | laga: | oh, yeah |
| [14:59:00] | laga: | dunno, they're very expensive |
| [14:59:00] | rw`: | worth it |
| [14:59:00] | laga: | naw |
| [14:59:00] | GraveDigger: | laga: that crap also doesnt work :( |
| [15:00:00] | laga: | GraveDigger: what did you do? |
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| [15:00:00] | laga: | GraveDigger: do you use debian? |
| [15:00:00] | laga: | rw`: my myth box cost me like 400 euro. and a lot of hair :/ |
| [15:00:00] | GraveDigger: | http://phpfi.com/73157 |
| [15:00:00] | laga: | rw`: i've been constantly fiddling with mythtv for 1.5 years now ;) |
| [15:00:00] | rw`: | laga, well, 400 euros is also expensive... |
| [15:01:00] | GraveDigger: | laga: well, i caught the files, put them, where others of same type have been put, and tried to start that script – the above is the output |
| [15:01:00] | laga: | rw`: well, i dont kwant to know hoch much i've spent on the other hardware i've lying around |
| [15:01:00] | directhex|work: | i spent £toomuch on my mythtv machine |
| [15:01:00] | directhex|work: | and it took me 7 months to get it eorking right |
| [15:01:00] | laga: | cannot find /usr/local/share/tv_grab_de_prisma/channel_ids, |
| [15:01:00] | laga: | GraveDigger: anyways, i'd recommend that you just fix _your_ grabber |
| [15:01:00] | k-man_: | rw`, where abouts are you? |
| [15:01:00] | laga: | directhex|work: heh. |
| [15:01:00] | rw`: | k-man_, brazil |
| [15:01:00] | laga: | GraveDigger: /join #mythtv-de |
| [15:04:00] | k-man_: | rw`, oh, cool |
| [15:04:00] | k-man_: | rw`, are you brazilian? |
| [15:04:00] | rw`: | yeah! |
| [15:04:00] | k-man_: | directhex|work, what took so long? |
| [15:04:00] | k-man_: | rw`, cool |
| [15:05:00] | k-man_: | i'd love to visit brazil some day |
| [15:05:00] | rw`: | k-man_, you're in au right? hmc home! :-) |
| [15:05:00] | k-man_: | hmc? |
| [15:05:00] | directhex|work: | k-man, kernel problems, hardware problems, depression at it not bloody well working & loss of interest in the project |
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| [15:05:00] | rw`: | k-man_, just come :-) |
| [15:05:00] | directhex|work: | k-man, but with over £1000 of kit sitting idle, i had to sort SOMETHING |
| [15:05:00] | rw`: | k-man_, I also would like to visit australia :-) |
| [15:05:00] | k-man_: | directhex|work, yeh, its tricky |
| [15:05:00] | k-man_: | geez, UKP1000? |
| [15:05:00] | directhex|work: | yep |
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| [15:06:00] | k-man_: | rw, maybe we should to an exchange? |
| [15:06:00] | directhex|work: | including about £150 of equipment i had to replace or thought i had to replace |
| [15:06:00] | k-man_: | you can sleep on my couch if i can sleep on ours? |
| [15:06:00] | directhex|work: | most of the problems were caused by the £120 aluminium HTPC case, a silverstone LC11 |
| [15:06:00] | k-man_: | directhex|work, really? how come? |
| [15:07:00] | directhex|work: | the integrated mobo risers cause some shoring, so it sometimes wouldn't boot; no room for SATA hard disk in the hard disk bay; large metal rivet blocks the ability to plug in a VGA monitor into the gfx card; the PCI/AGP riser card simply DOESN'T WORK |
| [15:07:00] | directhex|work: | *shorting |
| [15:08:00] | directhex|work: | a £80 coolermaster, and all the above problems went away |
| [15:08:00] | directhex|work: | currently, i'm thinking about what to do by way of a remote control |
| [15:08:00] | directhex|work: | oh, and i thought the mobo was defective, so i had to ship that back to scotland, only for them to send it back to me as fine |
| [15:08:00] | directhex|work: | ditto the gfx card, i thoguht that was defective so bought another |
| [15:09:00] | directhex|work: | ended up trying about 8 PVR products over time, to try & find one that worked properly |
| [15:10:00] | directhex|work: | oh, and my tv cards' kernel modules wouldn't compile on a stock kernel until 2.6.12. my sata controller needs 2.6.11 |
| [15:10:00] | laga: | ouch |
| [15:10:00] | laga: | helluva fun ;) |
| [15:10:00] | directhex|work: | now, now it _MOSTLY_ behaves. a ferw outstanding issues i'd like to fix |
| [15:11:00] | directhex|work: | things that aren't mythtv bugs, anyway |
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| [15:11:00] | directhex|work: | i need to sort out a remote control |
| [15:11:00] | directhex|work: | and i need to work out where the bloody hell the option is to make myth shut down the pc when you quit# |
| [15:11:00] | k-man_: | geezus |
| [15:11:00] | k-man_: | that sucks |
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| [15:19:00] | XAD2000: | directhex: check KnoppMyth... they have a "menu" option to quit the PC (or reboot)... |
| [15:19:00] | directhex|work: | yeah, i'd like to know where you enable such a setting |
| [15:21:00] | k-man_: | why on earth would i only get 3 of my channels when u press up arrow? |
| [15:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | The frontend wont show the PC shutdown option when exiting mythfrontend if it's the same machine as the backend. But that's a simple 1 line to comment out if you still want it to show it |
| [15:21:00] | k-man_: | but i get all of them when i press down arrow? |
| [15:21:00] | REyM: | how do I make mythtv work with viaxvmc? |
| [15:22:00] | k-man_: | also, why does mythtv sometimes use the wrong audio channel? |
| [15:22:00] | k-man_: | and I have to press + to change audio channel? |
| [15:23:00] | directhex|work: | GreyFoxx, and where is this magical line of uncommenting? |
| [15:23:00] | XAD2000: | Grey?? Strange, what I recall it does on my copy... |
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| [15:24:00] | laga: | nice. HMC can receive radio stations. wonder if they wouldn't need to release their code... |
| [15:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | 500 if (!backendOnLocalhost) |
| [15:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | 501 diag.AddButton(QObject::tr("Yes, Exit and Shutdown")); |
| [15:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythtv/programs/mythfrontend/main.cpp |
| [15:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | XAD2000: The Knoppmyth people might very well have modified the source :) |
| [15:25:00] | rw`: | laga, there is a radio module already |
| [15:25:00] | k-man_: | i'm off |
| [15:25:00] | k-man_: | night guys |
| [15:25:00] | jams: | knoppmyth would not have modified src |
| [15:26:00] | directhex|work: | oh, ffs, more source hackery |
| [15:26:00] | jams: | its release code or nothing |
| [15:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | directhex|work: You can also configure the command used to shutdown the PC to use a custom command if you want right in the myth setup menus |
| [15:26:00] | directhex|work: | on a related note, what's the usual delay between posting something to the trac, and getting any acknowledgement? |
| [15:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Honestly I'm suprised noone has added a menu option to override that behaviour :) |
| [15:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | 0 secs to infinity |
| [15:27:00] | directhex|work: | bah. sounds like bugs.debian.org |
| [15:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you are looking for some sort of SLA response time you wont get it :) |
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| [15:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | It all depends on what the item is, who is handling that area of stuff, and how quickly they see it :) |
| [15:30:00] | XAD2000: | laga, HMC?? |
| [15:30:00] | directhex|work: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/198 |
| [15:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | directhex|work: I assume you are referring to the IDE support ? |
| [15:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, that's what I thought |
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| [15:30:00] | laga: | XAD2000: www.hmc.com.au |
| [15:31:00] | directhex|work: | yep. sorry to bang on about it, but i never seem to have much luck contributing to open source, despite my best efforts |
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| [15:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | directhex|work: Mention it to chutt when he is arround. I don't even use mythmusic let alone go near the source for it :) |
| [15:32:00] | laga: | i like trac way better than the old bugzilla |
| [15:32:00] | laga: | because it's being used ;) |
| [15:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: I like the new system |
| [15:32:00] | rw`: | trac is awesome. |
| [15:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | and the source browser |
| [15:32:00] | laga: | yep |
| [15:32:00] | XAD2000: | laga, thats internet radio... |
| [15:33:00] | laga: | not that i read much source code, being a non-coder ;) |
| [15:33:00] | laga: | XAD2000: oh, ok |
| [15:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [15:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | yay, new slackware release soon. *goes to read changelog* |
| [15:33:00] | laga: | cool |
| [15:34:00] | rw`: | slackware still exist? lol |
| [15:34:00] | XAD2000: | I've been trying to get radio to work and is now just trying to find out if anyone got it to work (on PVR150/250/350/500) so you almost made my day... ;-) |
| [15:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | rw`: Still rocking n rolling |
| [15:34:00] | rw`: | GreyFoxx, patrik is too crackhead for me. |
| [15:34:00] | rw`: | patrick |
| [15:35:00] | directhex|work: | i don't usually read much source code. especially not QT. or C++ |
| [15:35:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: could ya give me the url to the changelog? |
| [15:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackwa . . . hangeLog.txt |
| [15:35:00] | laga: | thx |
| [15:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | sometime in the next couple weeks it should be released according to an email I just saw |
| [15:36:00] | directhex|work: | but i saw "unable to run cdrecord --scanbus" in my myth logs, and thought "oh no, they're not relying on Jorg 'anyone not running schillix is inhuman' schilling for their data are they?" |
| [15:37:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i wonder if i should give it a try again |
| [15:37:00] | rw`: | GreyFoxx, does the package system has dependencies already? |
| [15:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: *shrug*. I most likely will |
| [15:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | rw`: no idea, I don't use packages very often, let alone any auto dependancie resolving. BUT slapt-get will handle then I think if you use that. I'm just looking over the changelog now so I don't know what has changed in the base system tool |
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| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | A search on "depend" in the changelog doesn't mention anything about the packaging tools though |
| [15:42:00] | laga: | slapt-get is third party software, iirc |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
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| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | For those that want that sort of thing :) |
| [15:42:00] | rw`: | I used slackware for years, I would't change debian for it. |
| [15:42:00] | rw`: | ubuntu is doing a nice job. |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | And I feel the same way. I wont leave Slackware for anything else I've tried. Though I have not put ubuntu on any of my machines yet to check it out |
| [15:43:00] | rw`: | it's a better debian... |
| [15:43:00] | rw`: | but soon debian will reach it. |
| [15:43:00] | rw`: | they are very compatible. |
| [15:44:00] | laga: | it's a debian without a root user. how stupid is that? |
| [15:44:00] | directhex|work: | ubuntu definitely isn't debian |
| [15:44:00] | directhex|work: | it's an interesting distro, and it works great on my laptop, but i couldn't run it on my desktop. too restrictive. |
| [15:45:00] | rw`: | laga, it is debian with all updated softwares. |
| [15:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | NO root user ? |
| [15:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | wtf ? Is everyone a superuser or something ? |
| [15:45:00] | rw`: | GreyFoxx, it has a root user. But it's just based in sudo. Which is much smarter. |
| [15:46:00] | rw`: | It means you don't have to use root for almost nothing. |
| [15:46:00] | directhex|work: | since sudo takes a user password not a root password, it's only smarter for a single-user system |
| [15:46:00] | laga: | man sudo.conf <- want some nice nightmares? |
| [15:46:00] | directhex|work: | visudo! |
| [15:46:00] | laga: | whatever |
| [15:46:00] | laga: | the syntax is from hell |
| [15:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | hrm, maybe I wont bother playing around with it :) |
| [15:47:00] | directhex|work: | ubuntu does its job adequately |
| [15:47:00] | laga: | directhex|work: #define job |
| [15:47:00] | directhex|work: | functional desktop distro with a reasonable predefined configuration |
| [15:47:00] | directhex|work: | it starts to die off a bit if you install packages from Universe |
| [15:47:00] | laga: | or multiverse. |
| [15:47:00] | directhex|work: | or whatever. either way |
| [15:48:00] | ** laga hugs debian sarge ** | |
| [15:48:00] | directhex|work: | ubuntu also has a proprieytary replacement for the debian buildds (which may be flaky in themselves, but is a closed solution better?) |
| [15:48:00] | rw`: | debian will reach it soon or later. |
| [15:48:00] | directhex|work: | but it DOES have some sensible patches pre-applied, e.g. centrino patches |
| [15:48:00] | directhex|work: | i use ubuntu patches on my myth machine's kernel |
| [15:49:00] | ** GreyFoxx has to pickup a new MB/CPU for a new fileserver. Too bad hardware wasn't free ** | |
| [15:49:00] | laga: | heh |
| [15:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I picked up a nice new rackmount case for it with 8 pullout drivebays accross the front |
| [15:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Gonna move my existing backend into it and make that hardware my new desktop heh |
| [15:51:00] | directhex|work: | ubuntu's a reasonable distro, but it's no debian. mcuh of it might smell the same, e.g. the way package maintainers ignore bugs, but it's not the same |
| [15:52:00] | laga: | so what about the new mythui? is there anything in svn yet? |
| [15:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | sure, the test app is there and libmythui is there |
| [15:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | But if you mean is the source for the main apps using it, then no :) |
| [15:53:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: ok ;) |
| [15:53:00] | Beirdo: | directhex|work: ubuntu > debian |
| [15:53:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [15:53:00] | laga: | debian > ubuntu |
| [15:54:00] | rw`: | laga, look in mythtv/programs/mythuitest |
| [15:54:00] | laga: | rw`: i've already tried mythuitest and it looks spiffy. it's just that i would like to use it in mythfrontend ;) |
| [15:55:00] | laga: | will we be able to use plugins while watching livetv with the new UI? |
| [15:56:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [15:57:00] | directhex|work: | i have four systems – desktop, htpc, office laptop, office desktop. the laptop runs ubuntu, the rest run debian |
| [15:57:00] | Beirdo: | good for you :) |
| [15:58:00] | ** Beirdo is a smartass on Monday morning, don't worry ** | |
| [15:58:00] | GeckoFiend: | GreyFoxx I'm getting ready to move my MBE to a new mobo in a rackmount myself |
| [15:58:00] | rw`: | Beirdo, welcome :-) |
| [15:58:00] | ** Beirdo is looking to see what memory the IBM Thinkpad T22 needs ** | |
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| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | 256MB is just not enough to run gnome + puzzlepirates (which is Java) + xchat |
| [15:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | GeckoFiend: Nice. It's bloody hard to get your hands on a "good" rackmount case. At least when you want lots of visible drive bays |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | max memory 512MB?! |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | bastards |
| [16:00:00] | cochi: | puzzle pirates :| |
| [16:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Heh. I'm looking to add more ram to my laptop, I should lookup the limit |
| [16:00:00] | Beirdo: | and as this laptop's the one I'm bringing to Puerto Rico with me, it damn well has to work right |
| [16:00:00] | Beirdo: | the royal swapfest while in the game is damn annoying |
| [16:01:00] | Beirdo: | stupidass Java wants 382MB, but not all paged in |
| [16:01:00] | Beirdo: | usually pages in about 70–90MB |
| [16:01:00] | Beirdo: | and on a 256MB machine, that's really tight |
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| [16:02:00] | Beirdo: | looks like it uses 144pin PC100 SDRAM SODIMM |
| [16:02:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
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| [16:02:00] | Beirdo: | meeting |
| [16:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sweet, I can add another gigabyte to this one. Time to start bugging my boss |
| [16:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use vmware a lot, and after a couple sessions running at the same time I am in swap hell |
| [16:04:00] | directhex|work: | 1gb in the laptop \o/ |
| [16:04:00] | directhex|work: | helps for playing guild wars :) |
| [16:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's what I have now, I want to push it to 2... wonder if I can scam a bigger hd too |
| [16:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man there is more hardware in my cube than in our lab I swear |
| [16:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, maybe not, but it seems like it heh |
| [16:06:00] | laga: | having more toys in your cube than thinkgeek in their storage is worse, imho ;) |
| [16:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | 5 servers, 1 laptop, 2 lcd screens, 2 crts, a baystack switch, a cisco ubr cmts, 3 cable modems, couple keyboards, and a partridge in a pear tree |
| [16:09:00] | laga: | umm, ok. that's a lot. ;) |
| [16:09:00] | cochi: | that fits into some cube? ;) |
| [16:09:00] | cochi: | must be a larger one eh |
| [16:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | All in mine |
| [16:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have a big cube |
| [16:09:00] | cochi: | so.. where're you then ;) |
| [16:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | moving into another in a few days |
| [16:10:00] | GeckoFiend: | GreyFoxx yeah I'm hitting ebay to get mine |
| [16:10:00] | GeckoFiend: | It's gettting lumped into the new office I'm building in my house |
| [16:11:00] | REyM: | does anyone know if the debian package is buisd with support vor via xvmc, and ifso how do I enable it? |
| [16:11:00] | laga: | and my mythtv will fail now. |
| [16:11:00] | laga: | yeeehaw. |
| [16:12:00] | ** laga feels the videoout_xv.cpp love ** | |
| [16:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | GeckoFiend: Cool. I was looking around ebay for a while, but then a friend of mine picked up one from his distributer and I liked it so got one from them. Haven't taken it out of the box yet though |
| [16:13:00] | GeckoFiend: | I saw one at a local shop for over $200, found the same thing on ebay for <$100 |
| [16:13:00] | GeckoFiend: | I'm planning on reoding all of my machines to either rackmount or dead silent boxes. I'm sick of the constant noise |
| [16:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | just watch out for shipping. \For something that big and heavy it might come out the same |
| [16:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [16:14:00] | laga: | http://pastebin.ca/19544 <- can anyone shed some light on this? |
| [16:14:00] | laga: | my mythtv build fails at videoout_xv.cpp |
| [16:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | diskless/netbooting is nice, no hd noise/heat, means you can lower fans speeds and such too |
| [16:15:00] | GeckoFiend: | laga have you made changes? |
| [16:15:00] | laga: | GeckoFiend: no. |
| [16:15:00] | rw`: | laga, there is a syntax error on line 881. |
| [16:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Eventually I'd like a rack for the basement, got my eye on one I like |
| [16:15:00] | laga: | interesting. |
| [16:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | One of the phonebooth ones, eithe a shaded see through door, all black |
| [16:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | got a corner picked out for it heh |
| [16:17:00] | GeckoFiend: | laga I'm building current svn now. If it breaks I'll fix it |
| [16:17:00] | laga: | GeckoFiend: it happens to me all the time. ;) |
| [16:18:00] | laga: | GeckoFiend: like, one week ago... |
| [16:18:00] | laga: | and two weeks ago... |
| [16:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hrm, that reminds me. I had the internal player die and take mythfrontend with it when it failed to recognize a codec id this morning. |
| [16:19:00] | rw`: | laga, never happend to me and I've been builing the trunk lately. |
| [16:19:00] | laga: | looks like it's related to xvmc or something. *ponder* |
| [16:19:00] | laga: | rw`: well, this is some special build environment for the linux terminal server project |
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| [16:20:00] | [Klatuu]: | hmmm |
| [16:20:00] | cochi: | linux terminal server? based on rdp or linux-ish |
| [16:20:00] | laga: | linux-ish. i think. ;) |
| [16:21:00] | rw`: | laga, does it modify the source code? |
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| [16:21:00] | cochi: | :( |
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| [16:22:00] | laga: | rw`: no. it's just like the regular build process, just automated. but i think it's somehow related to xvmc. *ponders* |
| [16:22:00] | laga: | *hack* |
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| [16:24:00] | rw`: | laga, this line has a conditional compiling where USING_XVMC_VLD |
| [16:24:00] | rw`: | #endif |
| [16:24:00] | rw`: | ); |
| [16:24:00] | rw`: | omg, dirty. |
| [16:24:00] | laga: | rw`: i think that it could be missing an include somewhere |
| [16:26:00] | rw`: | hold on. |
| [16:27:00] | rw`: | laga, show me your configure options. |
| [16:27:00] | laga: | export QMAKESPEC=linux-g++ && export QTDI |
| [16:27:00] | laga: | R=/ltsp-src/qt/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/ && PATH=$PATH:/ltsp-src/qt/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/ |
| [16:27:00] | laga: | bin/ ./configure --prefix=/usr/ --march=i686 --enable-xvmc --enable-opengl-vsync |
| [16:27:00] | laga: | --disable-backend |
| [16:27:00] | laga: | oops, pastebin would have been a better place |
| [16:28:00] | rw`: | try modifying the source and including libs/libmyth/mythcontext.h |
| [16:28:00] | rw`: | but there is also a syntax error. hold. |
| [16:28:00] | Beirdo: | blah |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | I hate morning meetings |
| [16:29:00] | rw`: | laga, well, I don't see any syntax error, try this. |
| [16:30:00] | laga: | rw`: there already is an #include "mythcontext" at line 23 |
| [16:30:00] | laga: | mythcontext.h i mean ;) |
| [16:31:00] | rw`: | but there isn't a mythcontext.h in the current directory. |
| [16:32:00] | rw`: | replace it with #include "../libmyth/mythcontext.h" |
| [16:32:00] | rw`: | and try recompiling it. |
| [16:32:00] | laga: | ok, I'll try |
| [16:32:00] | laga: | but there is already a -I../libmyth/ in the makefile |
| [16:33:00] | laga: | i get the same error :/ |
| [16:33:00] | rw`: | ok listen VERBOSE is only defined when DEBUG flag is set. try setting it. |
| [16:33:00] | rw`: | videoout_xv.cpp miss it. |
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| [16:34:00] | laga: | does the debug flag get set when i compile mythtv with debug? |
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| [16:34:00] | rw`: | --compile-type=debug |
| [16:34:00] | laga: | ok, thanks. |
| [16:35:00] | laga: | what i'm doing here is stupid anyways, i think i should have done a make distclean after the version bump |
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| [16:36:00] | rw`: | laga, if it works with the debug I will patch videoout_xv.cpp so you can use it without compiling it with debug. |
| [16:36:00] | laga: | rw`: i really appreciate your help ;) |
| [16:36:00] | rw`: | brb in 5 min. |
| [16:37:00] | laga: | don't worry, it takes ages to build mythtv on this box ;) |
| [16:37:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [16:37:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [16:37:00] | ** laga offers some coffee to beirdo ** | |
| [16:37:00] | Beirdo: | I wonder if there's an easy way to remotely tell what RAM configuration is in that laptop |
| [16:38:00] | laga: | call ibm? |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | umm, that's not what I mean |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | gah, it's not running sshd?! |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | fuck |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | I guess that's a no, then |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:38:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | I want to know if it has 1*256MB or 2*128MB in there |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | I'm betting on the latter |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | but if I'm wrong, I will have bought 256MB extra that I don't really need |
| [16:39:00] | laga: | umm, give it to the poor? ;) |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | more like buy another laptop to use it |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:40:00] | laga: | heh |
| [16:41:00] | Beirdo: | so I blew away Win98SE on it |
| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | and put on ubuntu :) |
| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:42:00] | ** laga feels dirty from loking at c++ code and goes to take a shower ** | |
| [16:42:00] | directhex|work: | laga, i know the feeling |
| [16:42:00] | ** directhex|work throws some perl at laga ** | |
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| [16:46:00] | ** rw` is back ** | |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | ooh look.. a monkey throwing feces? |
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| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | errr. |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | I need coffee |
| [16:47:00] | rw`: | laga, alive? |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | IBM's site is painfully slow |
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| [16:49:00] | ** Beirdo turns it up a bit ** | |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | that's better |
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| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | I should ask IBM to ship me a recovery CD |
| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | or call up IT at the old employer who used the T22 |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | downloaded the HW Maint manual :) |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:59:00] | laga: | rw`: umm, yep |
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| [17:01:00] | laga: | rw`: i'm still in libs/libmyth with compiling, it takes ages ;) |
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| [17:22:00] | laga: | rw`: i still get the same error :/ |
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| [18:09:00] | [Klatuu]: | hmmm |
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| [18:29:00] | Platapie: | Anyone got time for a quick question? :) |
| [18:29:00] | JayRC: | I'm using changechannel.py to change channels on my dct-2000. It's sending the commands, but not quite fast enough. I don't see any "sleep" or "pause" commands in the script. Is there some way to speed it up? Changing the baud rate on the serial maybe? |
| [18:30:00] | JayRC: | I don't know if I can answer the question, but I can try |
| [18:30:00] | Platapie: | :) |
| [18:31:00] | Platapie: | Basically, when I try to record S-video in mythtv, it switches the card's audio input off, and thus I get no sound on the recording |
| [18:31:00] | Platapie: | I can switch it back with ivtvctl |
| [18:31:00] | Platapie: | But I was wondering if there was a way to avoid this behaviour entirely |
| [18:31:00] | Platapie: | Switching inputs in Mythtv is fine, i.e when I press C.. but when I record.. it doesn't like my S-video input |
| [18:33:00] | JayRC: | I haven't got that far quite yet. I haven't tried sound on mine yet. I'm still building, but I would be interested in hearing the answer for future refference. |
| [18:33:00] | Platapie: | Ah :( |
| [18:33:00] | JayRC: | sorry I'm not much help :-/ |
| [18:33:00] | Platapie: | It's annoying me beyond belief |
| [18:34:00] | Platapie: | Hrmm, any idea what other program I could use to schedule recordings from s-video? I mean.. cp /dev/video0 is somewhat ghetto, but I suppose I could cron it |
| [18:34:00] | JayRC: | yeah, I can imaging. I've had a few issues like that. I'm still trying to figure out how to speed up changechannel.py so it will change my box. |
| [18:35:00] | JayRC: | :( that's where I'm stuck now. |
| [18:35:00] | Platapie: | IR reciever? |
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| [18:36:00] | JayRC: | I'm trying to change my box through the data port so I don't have to have an unsightly ir blaster in front of my box. |
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| [18:38:00] | JayRC: | all commands get sent to the box. ie if I type changechannel.py 433, you will see the box show 4 and then maybe 33, but it's not quite fast enough to get them all together. |
| [18:38:00] | JayRC: | :( |
| [18:38:00] | Platapie: | Sadly I know little about that :( |
| [18:39:00] | JayRC: | It's aggravating, so close, yet so far away. |
| [18:40:00] | Platapie: | Indeed.. everything working perfectly here except for the audio ONLY on recording.. lol |
| [18:40:00] | Platapie: | Only for svideo.. |
| [18:40:00] | Platapie: | Everything else is fine :( |
| [18:41:00] | Platapie: | Something tells me the solution is ludicrously simple too |
| [18:41:00] | JayRC: | are you going out from the tuner card in to the sound card or how do you have it set up? |
| [18:43:00] | Platapie: | I just have the card in the machine and have the coax/svideo connected to it. Sound is fine, watching.. I can record Svideo with audio by using cp /dev/video0 the problem is that the moment Mythtv tries to record |
| [18:43:00] | Platapie: | It switches the audio input on my card |
| [18:43:00] | Platapie: | And thus records no audio |
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| [18:44:00] | Platapie: | I can change it back.. easily.. but I have no idea why myth switches it in the first place.. and like I said it's probably a brutally simple answer |
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| [18:46:00] | JayRC: | well, I'm not sure, I'm just throwing out some ideas, but I know s-video doesn't transmit sound like coax does so maybe that has something to do with it. can you record with sound from coax? |
| [18:48:00] | Platapie: | Yep.. but what all mythtv is doing is switching to the wrong audio input on my card.. that's all |
| [18:48:00] | Platapie: | I.E when I try to record svideo, it records svideo video, but uses the wrong input for audio, resulting in none |
| [18:49:00] | Platapie: | I have no idea how to tell it which audio input to use :( |
| [18:52:00] | JayRC: | Here's what I'm thinking, but I'm not sure. I would try, if possible, to connect a cable from the audio out on the box to the audio in on your sound card. I'm thinking that because s-video doesn't transmit sound, it looks for sound somewhere else. Do you know where it sets the sound to? |
| [18:54:00] | Platapie: | sec .. I can find out |
| [18:54:00] | JayRC: | I think you might be able to set manually the sound input/output in mythtv. If I'm wrong everybody feel free to chime in. |
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| [18:57:00] | Platapie: | How do I manually set that? |
| [18:57:00] | Platapie: | I can't find that option :( |
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| [19:05:00] | JayRC: | hang on let me check and see if I can find it again |
| [19:15:00] | [Klatuu]: | ivtvctl -q |
| [19:15:00] | [Klatuu]: | with the audio input number following the q |
| [19:16:00] | Platapie: | Yeah that works Klat but |
| [19:16:00] | Platapie: | When I start recording with mythtv, it switches off that input |
| [19:16:00] | Platapie: | for god knows what reason |
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| [19:16:00] | Platapie: | And thus the svideo recording has no audio :( |
| [19:17:00] | [Klatuu]: | s-video and composite video do not have sound signals on the cable |
| [19:17:00] | Platapie: | I'm aware.. |
| [19:17:00] | Platapie: | I can cp /dev/video0 with svideo no problem |
| [19:18:00] | Platapie: | Mythtv also gives me audio while WATCHING svideo.. |
| [19:18:00] | Platapie: | However, when I switch to record.. it fubars.. and I get no audio :( |
| [19:19:00] | [Klatuu]: | I haven't really played with myth in awhile since my capture card had issues |
| [19:20:00] | rw`: | laga, I noticed an else in the #define, let me try compiling it in here. |
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| [19:20:00] | Platapie: | I'm assuming the problem is easy to rectify.. but I'm at a loss as to how to do it ;) |
| [19:20:00] | [Klatuu]: | something in the Myth settings for your recordings |
| [19:20:00] | [Klatuu]: | recording profiles |
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| [19:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | that is where I would start looking |
| [19:21:00] | rw`: | laga, well, I get a really different error right now. |
| [19:23:00] | JayRC: | what kind of tuner are you using Platapie? |
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| [19:24:00] | Platapie: | PVR-150 mce |
| [19:24:00] | csshsh: | hi |
| [19:25:00] | csshsh: | got a quick question, what do you think.. how much kwh does a average pc use? |
| [19:25:00] | csshsh: | (thinking about if its worth to setup a box for mythtv right now) |
| [19:26:00] | Platapie: | Anyhow I really have to get running thanks for the attempted help however ;) |
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| [19:27:00] | directhex: | found a cheap solution to shutting down my machine |
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| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | power switch? |
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| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | foot to kick the plug out? |
| [19:28:00] | directhex: | myth is being launched by a script in ~/Desktop/Autorun – so just add "sudo halt" underneath it |
| [19:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | So that every time you exit mythfrontend it will shutdown the pc ? |
| [19:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | ugh |
| [19:30:00] | directhex: | whoops. it shut down my pc ^_^ |
| [19:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | hope mythfrontend never crashes :) |
| [19:30:00] | rw`: | csshsh, depends a lot. hd, video card, processor, monitor, usage, etc... Impossible to say. |
| [19:31:00] | directhex: | sigh. which .ccp was i supposed to fiddle, then? |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | main.cpp under mythfrontend |
| [19:31:00] | directhex: | is sshd back up yet... |
| [19:31:00] | csshsh: | rw`: no monitor.. like i said, just a rough guess 2, 20 or 200 kwh a day? |
| [19:31:00] | rw`: | csshsh, what's your processor and video card? |
| [19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | hrm, so if you are using mythgame and want to edit the games meta data, what Key would you use? I/Info (which currently brings up a detailed info popup and I can add a edit button to it) or some other key? |
| [19:32:00] | csshsh: | rw`: i think it's a 2ghz amd and some geforce. don't really know though. it's a old pc that was given to me |
| [19:32:00] | rw`: | from 200 to 350 |
| [19:33:00] | csshsh: | 200 khw a day? |
| [19:33:00] | csshsh: | ;) |
| [19:33:00] | csshsh: | you meant watts, right? |
| [19:33:00] | rw`: | yes |
| [19:33:00] | rw`: | watts |
| [19:33:00] | csshsh: | alright. maybe i will give this a shot then.. |
| [19:34:00] | rw`: | a good video card may use 100watts in the peak. |
| [19:34:00] | rw`: | p4 consumes 100 in a peak. |
| [19:34:00] | rw`: | athlon64 200 :-) |
| [19:35:00] | directhex: | an athlon64 is 90w at peak |
| [19:35:00] | directhex: | a prescott-core p4 is 110, give or take |
| [19:35:00] | directhex: | 30w for a pentium-m |
| [19:35:00] | ** xris likes the p4-m ** | |
| [19:35:00] | directhex: | p4-m is about 60w |
| [19:35:00] | directhex: | and slow |
| [19:35:00] | ** xris curses his power-hungry athlon mp ** | |
| [19:35:00] | rw`: | directhex, true, 110 :-) |
| [19:35:00] | directhex: | p4-m != p-m |
| [19:36:00] | xris: | directhex: p4-m isn't slow |
| [19:36:00] | kormoc: | csshsh, http://www.pcpowercooling.com/technology/power_usage/ |
| [19:36:00] | xris: | -m just means "mobile".... all new p4's are supposedly going to run with the better power stepping |
| [19:36:00] | directhex: | slower than desktop p4, which sucks in terms of IPC |
| [19:36:00] | kormoc: | uhh, no |
| [19:36:00] | directhex: | p4-m was discontinued about a year ago anyway |
| [19:36:00] | ** kormoc raises a eyebrow ** | |
| [19:37:00] | xris: | directhex: then why do I have a 3.4G HT p4-m in my machine? |
| [19:37:00] | directhex: | xris, god knows. you picked a sucky model? |
| [19:37:00] | xris: | model name : Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.46GHz |
| [19:38:00] | directhex: | model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz |
| [19:38:00] | xris: | directhex: hardly. intel-confidential cpu they they give us for testing. |
| [19:38:00] | xris: | maybe 6 months old |
| [19:38:00] | kormoc: | directhex, and it's a speedy bastard. |
| [19:38:00] | csshsh: | kormoc: thanks! |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:39:00] | directhex: | p4 has awful performance per clock, along with idiotic thermal envelope. p-m slightly edges out amd64 on the performance count, and craps on all but opteron EE for heat & power |
| [19:39:00] | kormoc: | csshsh, you are very welcome. They make the best power supplys on the planet as well, if you have the money to burn. |
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| [19:40:00] | ** Beirdo encourages xris to continue pulling the soapbox out from under directhex ** | |
| [19:40:00] | kormoc: | directhex, links to back this up? |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [19:40:00] | csshsh: | does mythtv also work with satellite systems or only with cable? |
| [19:40:00] | ** xris wonders how a 32 bit <2G proc can "slightly edge out" a 64 bit 3G+ proc. ** | |
| [19:41:00] | xris: | csshsh: mythtv can do dvb if you live somewhere that has it. |
| [19:41:00] | xris: | or you can do what I do and run svideo from my Dish receiver. |
| [19:41:00] | ** rw` is back (gone for 02:47.26) ** | |
| [19:41:00] | GeckoFiend: | csshsh I use two DirectTV receivers for my standard def stuff so yeah |
| [19:41:00] | csshsh: | cool |
| [19:42:00] | directhex: | ... you do know a 2ghz athlon64 will slaughter a 3+ghz pentium 4, right? |
| [19:42:00] | GeckoFiend: | directhex apples and oranges |
| [19:42:00] | xris: | directhex: exactly (sort of).. so how can a p-m "slightly edge out" the a64 or speed? |
| [19:42:00] | directhex: | how is that apples & oranges but not p-m versus p4-m? |
| [19:42:00] | GeckoFiend: | directhex can you point me to a 32bit AMD cpu that can decode 1080i? |
| [19:43:00] | xris: | directhex: um, 32 vs 64 bit? |
| [19:43:00] | xris: | GeckoFiend: mine can.. granted, I have two. |
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| [19:43:00] | xris: | (barely — need to run at nice -0 or less) |
| [19:43:00] | GeckoFiend: | xris :-p did your two AMD CPUs cost < $100 together? |
| [19:44:00] | xris: | GeckoFiend: yes. they were free. ;) |
| [19:44:00] | GeckoFiend: | :-p |
| [19:44:00] | directhex: | p-m is poor value for money, no doubts there, but it _IS_ fast. |
| [19:44:00] | ** kormoc would love to see the benchmark report that has the new p4-m 3.4 ghz cpu that directhex is referencing. ** | |
| [19:46:00] | directhex: | http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.p . . . X3BhZ2U9OA== is a random review comparing a 1.7 dothan system against 3.2ghz p4. current speeds on dothan are >2ghz. |
| [19:46:00] | kormoc: | that's not a p4-m |
| [19:46:00] | kormoc: | different core. |
| [19:47:00] | xris: | um, that looks like a video card test.... |
| [19:47:00] | kormoc: | it's a 'mobile graphics adapters' test |
| [19:48:00] | directhex: | http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?i . . . g&page=1 if you prefer. |
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| [19:48:00] | kormoc: | directhex, that's a p-m 2.0 ghz, not a p4-m. different core. |
| [19:49:00] | directhex: | i have no interest in p4-m, and haven't been arguing any case for p4-m |
| [19:49:00] | kormoc: | yes, you have been. |
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| [19:50:00] | xris: | directhex: that's the point.. you've been bashing it when you know nothing about it. |
| [19:50:00] | kormoc: | <directhex> p4-m was discontinued about a year ago anyway |
| [19:51:00] | directhex: | intel's current mobile product line focuses on centrino/sonoma, which use p-m or c-m |
| [19:51:00] | ** kormoc shakes his head ** | |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | where's mchou when we need a good argument? |
| [19:51:00] | kormoc: | <xris> model name : Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.46GHz |
| [19:51:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, on my ignore list :P |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | hehe. |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | not surprised there |
| [19:52:00] | kormoc: | directhex, it's there, it's not even released to buy, it's going to be in the future, so how can it not be on their roadmap? |
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| [19:55:00] | directhex: | kormoc, the entire netburst architecture is being phased out. it cannot scale. this isn't new news. |
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| [19:56:00] | kormoc: | directhex, phased out over the next few years maybe, but just because it will be outdated and gone doesn't make it a bad chip now, nor does it make it not on the roadmap. |
| [19:57:00] | kormoc: | nor makes it slow by any means. |
| [19:59:00] | kormoc: | for example, ddr2 was done long before ddr became the standard for motherboard ram, does that make ddr slow and unuseful, because a few years later it's being changed over to ddr2? is ddr2 now slow and unuseful because there's ddr3 developed? |
| [20:00:00] | directhex: | obviously not. but that doesn't mean you can't buy into the wrong technology. see: socket 423 and all the people who sank money into RDRAM |
| [20:01:00] | kormoc: | rdram is still alive and kicking with quadchannel motherboards, and is still currently the fastest ram on the market. |
| [20:01:00] | directhex: | the entire "pentium 4" brand is being phased out. notice that all extreme edition chips are now sold as "pentium" and not "pentium 4". processors are being sold with model numbers, not speeds, prominently on the box. it's part of intel's get-out for the fact that netburst can't scale any further, and they need to make up for their years of selling off the back of their clock speeds |
| [20:01:00] | xris: | directhex: that's a brand, not a technology. |
| [20:02:00] | kormoc: | directhex, so how does marketing make a chip slow? |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
| [20:02:00] | ** xris wonders if marketing really CAN do that.... ** | |
| [20:03:00] | directhex: | pentium 4 has *poor performance per clock*. a 2ghz pentium-m performs better, in benchmarks, than a 3+ghz pentium 4. as does an amd64. |
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| [20:04:00] | kormoc: | again, the p4-m is a different core then the p4, and thus I would like to see the benchmarks you are refering to that shows this new core is just as poor as you seem to think. |
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| [20:06:00] | directhex: | you can't make p4 efficient. you can chop 40–50% off the thermal envelope (see Xeon LV), but you can't make netburst an efficient design |
| [20:06:00] | kormoc: | Again, can you prove this, or is this just your opinion? |
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| [20:09:00] | ** xris thinks we should just go back to the 68k architecture and call it good.... ** | |
| [20:10:00] | xris: | low power, etc. |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | low power? :) |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | not per MIPS, it ain't |
| [20:10:00] | beavis: | where can i change the min space available before recordings will be suppressed? |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | the '060 cooked :) |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | mind you, the sempron should just use a frying pan for a heatsink |
| [20:11:00] | xris: | beavis: general settings, I think.... |
| [20:11:00] | kormoc: | the 68000 was quite nice and cool :) |
| [20:11:00] | beavis: | I have 3G of free space and it's not recording |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | cook your breakfast on the computer |
| [20:11:00] | directhex: | http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20050512111032.html good enough? |
| [20:11:00] | beavis: | xris: general settings of the frontend? |
| [20:11:00] | directhex: | or the original german source at http://www.golem.de/0505/37996.html |
| [20:11:00] | xris: | beavis: I think |
| [20:12:00] | directhex: | referred to on http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050525/ |
| [20:14:00] | kormoc: | directhex, "answering the question whether Intel will cease to use NetBurst architecture with certain future processors" |
| [20:14:00] | kormoc: | it does not say they are stopping it totally. |
| [20:15:00] | kormoc: | yet alone nothing about how the p4-m performs. |
| [20:19:00] | directhex: | the p4-m which has been stripped from http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/08/intel_eol_centrino/&n bsp;? |
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| [20:22:00] | kormoc: | the p4-m is no longer a notebook processor. It's not for sale on a public level yet. It uses the i865 chipset |
| [20:23:00] | xris: | s/a notebook/just a notebook/ |
| [20:23:00] | xris: | oh, my bad.. not notebook proc at all |
| [20:24:00] | xris: | anyway, like I said, they're taking the p4-m tech and rolling it into their standard desktop procs |
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| [20:24:00] | xris: | directhex: googling for this won't turn up any/much info... it's just not there because intel hasn't RELEASED any info. |
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| [20:25:00] | xris: | much like how you can't buy 64 bit xeons, but we have a handful. |
| [20:25:00] | directhex: | can't buy? HAH |
| [20:26:00] | directhex: | i admin a 48-machine cluster of them |
| [20:26:00] | ** kormoc raises a eyebrow. ** | |
| [20:26:00] | kormoc: | Who did you buy them from? |
| [20:26:00] | directhex: | dell. |
| [20:27:00] | ** xris wonders how... we're only JUST getting pre-release motherboards for them. ** | |
| [20:27:00] | directhex: | irwindale core. and the old noconas are also em64t. |
| [20:27:00] | directhex: | model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz |
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| [20:27:00] | directhex: | Linux zuse01 2.4.21–32.EL #1 SMP Fri Apr 15 21:02:58 EDT 2005 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| [20:28:00] | xris: | my bad. they must have been released recently. |
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| [20:28:00] | xris: | oh, sorry, I meant dual core |
| [20:29:00] | xris: | only dual core out afaik is the p4 extreme ed. |
| [20:29:00] | directhex: | correct |
| [20:29:00] | kormoc: | actually the P-d is dual core 64 bit. |
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| [20:30:00] | directhex: | oh yes, that's right. the 8xx range |
| [20:30:00] | Leebier: | quick (and easy, i hope) question, the IP address of my mythbox has changed, and i don't recall which config file I need to change for mythweb, anyone know offhand? |
| [20:30:00] | xris: | anyway... |
| [20:30:00] | xris: | Leebier: conf.php? |
| [20:31:00] | Leebier: | that's what i thought, but i don't see anything in there that would be doing it |
| [20:31:00] | Leebier: | appears to be using host names, grr |
| [20:32:00] | Leebier: | which should be easier, lol |
| [20:33:00] | Leebier: | i'm guessing the address of 'localhost" needs to be updated |
| [20:33:00] | Beirdo: | ummm |
| [20:33:00] | Beirdo: | localhost should only ever be used for 127.0.0.1 |
| [20:33:00] | Beirdo: | otherwise you are just being silly |
| [20:34:00] | Leebier: | lol, ok, we'll see if that works then :) |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | I'm tired |
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| [20:40:00] | jonK: | my new chair just arrived, and I'm very happy about this |
| [20:40:00] | cobolt: | hi guys |
| [20:40:00] | cobolt: | I am wondering |
| [20:40:00] | cobolt: | can I disable the harddrive buffering? |
| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm? |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | what would be the point of a PVR that doesn't record? |
| [20:42:00] | cobolt: | I have added a vcr playbox |
| [20:42:00] | cobolt: | here the del |
| [20:42:00] | cobolt: | my tv broke down |
| [20:42:00] | cobolt: | deal |
| [20:42:00] | cobolt: | I have full surrond dvd player |
| [20:43:00] | cobolt: | and a bttv card |
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| [20:43:00] | cobolt: | I need to redirect the output from the dvd to my computer |
| [20:43:00] | cobolt: | video output |
| [20:43:00] | cobolt: | on the videocard I use the composite entrance |
| [20:43:00] | cobolt: | when running xawtv it simply tosses out the input to my screen |
| [20:44:00] | cobolt: | can I accomplish the same with mythtv? |
| [20:44:00] | cobolt: | when I simply watch a movie video is delayed because of the recording |
| [20:44:00] | Beirdo: | not without it going to disk |
| [20:45:00] | cobolt: | I don't need to record my own dvds :P |
| [20:45:00] | kormoc: | cobolt, why not just use tvtime or xawtv? |
| [20:45:00] | cobolt: | so it will always go to disk first? |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | then use tvtime or xawtv |
| [20:45:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:45:00] | cobolt: | uhu |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | dammit, kormoc beat me |
| [20:45:00] | kormoc: | :P |
| [20:45:00] | cobolt: | used xawtv |
| [20:45:00] | cobolt: | :P |
| [20:45:00] | kormoc: | tvtime is better imho |
| [20:45:00] | cobolt: | I just wanted a nice frontend in which I could do more ;) |
| [20:45:00] | cobolt: | like the news and jukebox module is nice |
| [20:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can add a menu item to the myth menu to launch xawtv |
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| [20:46:00] | Mrgoose2: | hello |
| [20:46:00] | cobolt: | GreyFoxx -> where do I find that in the manual? |
| [20:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | What manual ? |
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| [20:46:00] | Mrgoose2: | im tryin to install mythtv 0.18.1 how do i compile in the lirc support on earlier versions you could just edit settings.pro however the lirc opitions are no longer in settings.pro |
| [20:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | You need to edit one of the theme xml files |
| [20:46:00] | cobolt: | mythtv manual |
| [20:47:00] | cobolt: | hmm |
| [20:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm unaware of any myth manual except for the insall and trouble shooting docs |
| [20:47:00] | cobolt: | is that described somewhere? |
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| [20:47:00] | cobolt: | uhu |
| [20:47:00] | cobolt: | thought so |
| [20:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have no idea what is on the wiki since I don't look at it |
| [20:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is an example entry in one of the xml files , it's just commented out |
| [20:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm looking for it now |
| [20:48:00] | cobolt: | okay |
| [20:48:00] | Mrgoose2: | im tryin to install mythtv 0.18.1 how do i compile in the lirc support on earlier versions you could just edit settings.pro however the lirc opitions are no longer in settings.pro |
| [20:48:00] | cobolt: | found the mainmenu.xml file |
| [20:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | check out DVR/tvmenu.xml and classic/tvmenu.xml |
| [20:49:00] | cobolt: | but need to find the action it takes |
| [20:49:00] | Mrgoose2: | oops |
| [20:49:00] | cobolt: | great |
| [20:49:00] | cobolt: | thx |
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| [20:51:00] | Mrgoose2: | is lirc support built in now? |
| [20:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mrgoose: It's on the ./configure options |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | time for a break |
| [20:55:00] | Mrgoose2: | heh |
| [20:55:00] | Mrgoose2: | anything else change with the install? |
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| [20:59:00] | Mrgoose2: | is xvmc useful? |
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| [21:09:00] | beavis: | xris: it looks like there is no min space setting anymore in SVN builds |
| [21:11:00] | xris: | must be in there somewhere. |
| [21:11:00] | xris: | maybe it's in mythtv-setup... |
| [21:11:00] | beavis: | no, it's on the tv->general settings (page 3) in 0.18.1 |
| [21:12:00] | beavis: | but it's not there in svn |
| [21:13:00] | beavis: | There is one new setting on this page (Extra Disk Space in GB), but no min space |
| [21:14:00] | Leebier_: | ok, SOMETHING is still redirecting to the old IP |
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| [21:19:00] | Leebier_: | ahhh, httpd.conf |
| [21:20:00] | Leebier_: | xris- fwiw, it was httpd.conf that needed changing (as the rest was covered by canonical names or such) |
| [21:20:00] | p1tst0p: | anyone got any suggestions or guides for the composite out on a radeon 9200 card ? i just get crazy lines all over the tv cant make anything out.. |
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| [21:22:00] | beavis: | what could be this' settings name in the db? I can't find anything with MinSpaceAvailable (it's just not existing in the frontend settings) |
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| [21:30:00] | cobolt: | okay, I am using xawtv from mythtv, but that seems to block my keyboard input... |
| [21:30:00] | cobolt: | any ideas? |
| [21:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | I assume you are using a window manager of some sort ? |
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| [21:35:00] | cobolt: | nope |
| [21:35:00] | cobolt: | simply running X and then mythfrontend |
| [21:36:00] | rw`: | X is default I would like to see someone running it using directfb :-) |
| [21:36:00] | cobolt: | lol |
| [21:36:00] | cobolt: | rw, have funb |
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| [21:39:00] | rw`: | I said I would like to see :) |
| [21:39:00] | cobolt: | hehe |
| [21:40:00] | cobolt: | once ran mplayer on directfb |
| [21:40:00] | cobolt: | is nice |
| [21:40:00] | cobolt: | but didn't do rescaling |
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| [21:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | cobal: Lack of the window manager is causing you focus issues |
| [21:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | run a lightweight wm and the problem should go away |
| [21:42:00] | cobolt: | will myth then run full screen automatically? |
| [21:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | myth by default runs fullscreen unless configured to run as a window |
| [21:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | but Or do you mean not having any taskbar/window broders ? |
| [21:43:00] | jonK: | I am very pleased with my new chair |
| [21:45:00] | cobolt: | second |
| [21:45:00] | cobolt: | I don't want borders etc... |
| [21:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | cobolt: I never get any borders around myth, but I also disable that stuff in my wm config |
| [21:46:00] | cobolt: | which wm? |
| [21:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I icewm |
| [21:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | but there are plenty of lightweight wm's to choose from |
| [21:47:00] | cobolt: | I am used to enlightenment |
| [21:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Is this for a dedicated myth box or is it also a desktop of some sort ? |
| [21:49:00] | cobolt: | dedicated |
| [21:49:00] | cobolt: | thats why I wnt mythtv |
| [21:49:00] | cobolt: | all in one :P |
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| [22:01:00] | directhex: | yay, haxed main.cpp does the job |
| [22:02:00] | t0t3r: | what did hax in main.cpp? |
| [22:03:00] | robin|away: | hi |
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| [22:05:00] | robin|online: | I still have a problem with XvMC and my Nvidia FX5200.. the OSD is grey (no colours) and when changing channels or fast forward/reverse the images stutter |
| [22:05:00] | t0t3r: | is there any advantage in using xvmc? |
| [22:05:00] | robin|online: | I have read on that more ppl experience this problem. Is there already a fix or workarround ? |
| [22:05:00] | kormoc: | lower cpu usage for playback |
| [22:06:00] | t0t3r: | its a joke on a recent cpu |
| [22:06:00] | robin|online: | yes much lower. I don't have high-end CPU (1.26 ghz tualatin) |
| [22:06:00] | t0t3r: | ok |
| [22:06:00] | robin|online: | and cpu usage is 50% less! |
| [22:06:00] | kormoc: | t0t3r, takes my 2.4 ghz proc's usage from 30% to 15%. |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | hahahaha, that's a side-splitter, kormoc :) |
| [22:07:00] | ** Beirdo is in a fun mood ** | |
| [22:07:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, tis true, tho cpu usage went up when ht died on my proc :/ |
| [22:07:00] | robin|online: | If I use deinterlace (kernel) without xvmc is use 75%, while using xvmc and blob(2x) it is only 25% |
| [22:07:00] | t0t3r: | if a have 90% i maybe us it ;) |
| [22:07:00] | kormoc: | why not use it anyway? it's 'free' |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | you killed HT? You BASTARD! |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:08:00] | robin|online: | well, but about the problem ?? anyone? :) |
| [22:08:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, tis true, my proc no longer shows up as supporting ht. |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | :( |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | how nasty |
| [22:08:00] | kormoc: | yeah... |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | I wanna go home |
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| [22:09:00] | robin|online: | I can add an extra CPU, but does that really help? |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | heh, stupid Mondays |
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| [22:10:00] | robin|online: | got dual proc mobo, but it will add extra noise.. :/ |
| [22:11:00] | robin|online: | does the decoding support multi cpus'? |
| [22:11:00] | robin|online: | multi threading.. |
| [22:11:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [22:11:00] | Beirdo: | the software is multi-threaded |
| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | chance whether the decoder part will run on both or not... |
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| [22:12:00] | robin|online: | well I could try it.. I have the second cpu somewhere here. |
| [22:13:00] | robin|online: | but i don't have space for another Zalman cooler.. |
| [22:13:00] | robin|online: | will try that tomorrow.. |
| [22:13:00] | robin|online: | but nobody knows a fix for the xvmc problem? |
| [22:14:00] | cosmo_: | I want to run a seperate mythtv frontend over a 10baseT network, is it possible to have the file transfer from backend server to frontend client buffer to avoid jittery video? |
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| [22:15:00] | t0t3r: | not easier to buy a 100 mbit for 3.50 $ |
| [22:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | cosmo_: You could do it with 10mbit, assuming not much else is going over that network |
| [22:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | but seriously, 100megabit nics are cheap as hell |
| [22:17:00] | Mrgoose2: | so i see ./setup has been replaced with mythtv-setup in the new mythtv install |
| [22:17:00] | Mrgoose2: | is there documentation of the new install changes? |
| [22:17:00] | cosmo_: | Id upgrade if I must, but rather employ a software solution if its available. In the end I figured I could simply dump videos over nfs manually before viewing, but an automated process to do the same is preferred |
| [22:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | cosmo_: mythfrontend is designed to stream it from the backend, not just read it from the hd |
| [22:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I'm sure something could be done. not likely worth the effort |
| [22:19:00] | cosmo_: | oh groovy, it does stream, excellent |
| [22:19:00] | cosmo_: | I figured mnt-store was just an nfs mount or somehting |
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| [22:24:00] | primeministerp: | anyone know if the mythtivo plugin still works? |
| [22:26:00] | p1tst0p: | hey guys, erm, i got my mythbox working pretty cool with the Dbox patch.. i have a Radeon 9200 GFX card with Composite TV out, everything seems fine, except i can see a thick line scroling the screen.. is this due to a poor tv card ? or something else |
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| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | OMG, I'm falling asleep |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | this isn't good |
| [22:41:00] | Krazylegz: | Wake up! |
| [22:41:00] | Krazylegz: | Else I'll have to write a myth-work module for you. |
| [22:41:00] | p1tst0p: | hey guys, erm, i got my mythbox working pretty cool with the Dbox patch.. i have a Radeon 9200 GFX card with Composite TV out, everything seems fine, except i can see a thick line scroling the screen.. is this due to a poor tv card ? or something else |
| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | it's Monday |
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| [23:03:00] | p1tst0p: | whch PAL is the uk ? my gfx card has like, PAL-A to Z lol |
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| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | OK, that's it |
| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | the cleaning lady just turned the lights on. |
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| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | I'm outta here |
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| [23:26:00] | p1tst0p: | hi, what is suggested to be the best card to use for TV out ? |
| [23:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well I can't say what is best since quality varies a lot, but most people use nvidia cards and have little to no complaints |
| [23:27:00] | directhex: | a newer nvidia card is a better bet than an older ones, the tv out chips on some older (gf2-era) geforces was atrocious |
| [23:28:00] | p1tst0p: | GreyFoxx, cheers, i just found a Radeon 9200 in my box of bits, wiht Compsite out, but i can see it scanning thick transparent lines.. i feel i may need to get a beter card.. |
| [23:28:00] | Mrgoose2: | heh |
| [23:28:00] | Mrgoose2: | i was using a 9200 that had the thick transparent lines too heh |
| [23:28:00] | Mrgoose2: | they didn't cause too much problems |
| [23:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'd say most people are using GF4 MX440 and up |
| [23:29:00] | Mrgoose2: | i use gefcore4 mx4000 now |
| [23:29:00] | Mrgoose2: | has a lot more options than the radeon card did |
| [23:29:00] | Mrgoose2: | so i can fine tune the color and such |
| [23:30:00] | p1tst0p: | could you never sort the thick transparent lines then Mrgoose, its a pain in the ass, i could never live with it aha. |
| [23:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | my fathes box has an fx5200 and the tv is pretty good |
| [23:33:00] | Mrgoose2: | p1tst0p: nah never found a solution for it |
| [23:33:00] | Mrgoose2: | do you mean just like thick rolling lines , kinda faint but you can notice them |
| [23:33:00] | Mrgoose2: | GreyFoxx what do you use? |
| [23:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have abunch of GF4 mx440's |
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| [23:34:00] | directhex: | i have a spare ti4200 and a spare fx5200 |
| [23:34:00] | Mrgoose2: | GreyFoxx: how does one get a "bunch" of gf4 mx440's |
| [23:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | mr|venom: By saying "I'd like 4 of them" when ordering it |
| [23:35:00] | Mrgoose2: | oh |
| [23:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | I ordered a couple since I was setting up multiple boxes when I got them :) |
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| [23:38:00] | p1tst0p: | Mrgoose, yeh but these are noticable |
| [23:38:00] | p1tst0p: | especially when the screen is blank, there nasty lines |
| [23:39:00] | shfifty: | is there a way to specify which capture mythtv uses for a recording? one has no sound and i have no time to fix it... |
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| [23:44:00] | mr|venom: | ? |
| [23:48:00] | shfifty: | i have 2 capture cards, but one has video without any sound. i have a program scheduled o record, and i want to be sure it uses the card with working audio. that way i dont have a recording of only video... know any quick fixes? |
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| [23:52:00] | adante: | shfifty: changing the input preference of the card might do it (although i have never done this personally) |
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| [23:54:00] | JayRC: | anyone know how to make the changechannel.py script send commands a little quicker? |
| [23:55:00] | kormoc: | ir takes a while to run, it likly can't be much quicker. |
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| [23:57:00] | JayRC: | mine is just a hair slow. If I type in changechannel.py 024, I get 02 and right when it goes away I get 4 |
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| [23:57:00] | kormoc: | ahh, hrm. My tv only does the first 2 numbers, you sure yours supports 024? |
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| [23:58:00] | JayRC: | yeah, if I type changechannel.py 24, It still put the 0 in front |
| [23:58:00] | kormoc: | ahh, odd |
| [23:59:00] | adante: | is it normal for the recordedmarkup table to have 700k+ entries |
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