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Sunday, August 7th, 2005, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:00] juski: anax – depends which distro you want to run it on
[00:01:00] juski: on gentoo all I did was 'emerge' everything
[00:01:00] juski: FC3 users can use apt-get
[00:01:00] juski: knoppmyth users just put a CD in & answer some questions (kind of)
[00:01:00] anax: i am emerging it for about 25h on my via-epia-m9000 with gentoo, stage 1 with 2.4er kernel homebrewed with help of epiawiki.org sources.
[00:02:00] anax: myqlserver is already installed and configured
[00:02:00] juski: you're gonna have fun getting the unichrome driver rolling into everything
[00:02:00] juski: my frontend box is EPIA based (m10k)
[00:02:00] travolta: if you follow the instructions in the documentation, it is straight forward
[00:02:00] anax: juski: it is already modular in the kernel form epiawiki
[00:03:00] juski: anax: I was following the guide at www.linpvr.org
[00:03:00] juski: no it wasn't that one – oops
[00:03:00] Beirdo: hmmm
[00:03:00] anax: juski: did you build you own kernel?
[00:03:00] juski: yes I did
[00:04:00] anax: okay.
[00:04:00] juski: it was taking far too long though
[00:04:00] anax: i dont know if the drivers already work :)
[00:04:00] juski: so I figured that since the machine was only a frontend...
[00:04:00] anax: the box is always emerging :)
[00:04:00] juski: why not just use something ready-made :)
[00:04:00] Beirdo: blah
[00:04:00] Beirdo: OK, I think it's working now
[00:04:00] anax: juski: thats what i think now :)
[00:04:00] Beirdo: hehe
[00:05:00] juski: hey no need to re-invent the wheel
[00:05:00] juski: I got minimyth up & running in about an hour
[00:05:00] anax: really?
[00:05:00] juski: from configuring a TFTP boot server right up to watching recordings
[00:05:00] juski: really
[00:05:00] juski: you need a backend machine for minimyth though
[00:06:00] anax: juski: the funniest thing is, that i dont want to use it for watching tv
[00:06:00] juski: I've got a noisy server box upstairs and an M10k downstairs ;)
[00:06:00] anax: i just want the "ass-kicking" nice frontend !
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[00:07:00] juski: I can watch 'live tv' with it
[00:07:00] anax: i know. but i dont have any tv-card :)
[00:07:00] k-man: can anyone recommend a tool that makes it easier to edit records than phpmyadmin?
[00:07:00] Beirdo: k-man, you are kidding, right?
[00:08:00] k-man: not at all
[00:08:00] k-man: i mean...
[00:08:00] juski: k-man – there's always the command-line ;)
[00:08:00] Beirdo: pretty hard to get easier than a frigging web form
[00:08:00] k-man: phpmyadmin is good for editing one field here and there
[00:08:00] k-man: but if you want to change many records very quickly, its not so easy
[00:08:00] Beirdo: learn some SQL if you want to change lots at once
[00:08:00] k-man: yeah, thanks for the advice beirdo
[00:08:00] juski: and manke sure you back up the database before doing anything :)
[00:08:00] Beirdo: and you can use SQL commands from phpmyadmin just as easily as anywhere else
[00:09:00] Beirdo: you aren't likely to get a nicer interface
[00:09:00] juski: there's a (ahem) windows MYSQL frontend
[00:10:00] juski: but it's no easier to use than web form based admin tools
[00:10:00] Beirdo: like that would give a much better interface... it's DATA, after all
[00:10:00] juski: anax: what are you planning on using the frontend for?
[00:10:00] Beirdo: if you wanna do mass changes, you will need to learn some SQL, sorry
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[00:12:00] anax: juski: watching and "backing-up" dvds, videos, surfing the web, play small games, listening to music, seeing the weather, reading rss-feeds, and so on all the plugins that are avialable though.
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[00:13:00] anax: brb..cu later
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[00:14:00] k-man: i can't seem to get any channel guid information in mythtv
[00:14:00] k-man: mythfilldatabase seems to run ok
[00:14:00] k-man: as does tv_grab_au
[00:15:00] k-man: but i get nothing in mythtv
[00:15:00] k-man: just a whole lot of unknowns
[00:15:00] k-man: any ideas as to how i might track down whats not working?
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[00:19:00] Beirdo: nap time
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[00:41:00] moreati: Hi all. I'm sorry if I'm asking in the wrong place, but is there any off the shelf PVR that has reverse engineered/open specs, such that MythTV or another customisable produced software suite runs on it?
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[00:51:00] travolta: huh?
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[00:55:00] juski: moreati: nope
[00:56:00] moreati: thought not, it would make things too easy
[00:56:00] moreati: thanks for the response, I'm still finding my feet in the DVR noosphere, i take it also that noone sells a preconfigured mini itx machine with MythTV preinstalled?
[00:58:00] juski: it's really not that difficult to configure a system yourself you know ;)
[00:59:00] juski: there are companies who sell preconfig'd machines but whether or not you can buy one in your part of the world is another matter
[01:00:00] moreati: I know, I could buy the hardware sepeartely, but I like the idea of a mass produced machine that already has a community around it, particular the price it could be compared to custom configured ;)
[01:03:00] LedHed: I'm having a problem with fstab, I add a nfs mount to fstab but if I reboot its gone from fstab. How do I get the nfs mount to stick?
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[01:31:00] hadees: anyone know what i can do to get rid of a buzzing sound comming out my TV speakers when my computer is hooked up
[01:31:00] hadees: its happening even on the command line
[01:33:00] k-man: does turning your monitor off get rid of the sound?
[01:33:00] hadees: my monitor is no where near the TV
[01:33:00] hadees: it isn't hooked up
[01:33:00] k-man: oh
[01:34:00] k-man: i see
[01:34:00] k-man: sorry
[01:34:00] k-man: is audio from your computer connected to the tv?
[01:35:00] hadees: yeah
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[01:37:00] k-man: so you get the buz only when watching mythtv? or when you watch normal tv too?
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[01:41:00] down_below: i just recompiled mythtv with option dvb_using_eit, but i dont get a config in mythtv-setup to enable this for a channel. anyone an idea why?
[01:42:00] hadees: only when the computer is hooked up
[01:42:00] hadees: to the TV
[01:42:00] hadees: and the computer is being used as the input
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[01:50:00] levon: hadees, that is a common problem in with audio equipment and different grounds
[01:50:00] levon: I guess you have cable tv, don't you? ;)
[01:50:00] levon: cable tv often has a different ground than the house itself.
[01:50:00] levon: if you hook up your computer, which is grounded too, you'll get the buzzing sound
[01:51:00] levon: (or hook up a grounded mixer, you'll get the same)
[01:51:00] levon: hadees, the solution would be to use some sort of optical cupling
[01:51:00] levon: you can build something for a few $$$
[01:51:00] levon: (or decupling, for that matter)
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[01:52:00] moonie: I have a pvr250 on mandriva LE2005 and I can't get it to change channels
[01:53:00] levon: down_below, there really isn't much to configure. EIT will be fetched automatically if "Use on air guide" is active in the channel options.
[01:54:00] hadees: levon, how can i tell? this is a frontend box with no cable comming into it
[01:54:00] hadees: levon, could it be the TV coax
[01:54:00] levon: it's the combination of grounded power to your computer and the tv coax, yes.
[01:55:00] down_below: levon: thats the problem ... i dont have a switch in the channel editor
[01:55:00] levon: both have different grounds
[01:55:00] levon: down_below, strange, I do ;)
[01:55:00] hadees: levon, so removing the coax from the tv would in theory fix it?
[01:55:00] levon: hadees, yes.
[01:55:00] levon: down_below, right below playback filters.
[01:55:00] down_below: levon: there is nothing
[01:56:00] down_below: i searched everywhere :(
[01:56:00] levon: down_below, strange. you sure you recompiled everything and reinstalled everything after enabling eit?
[01:56:00] down_below: perhaps i compile again tomorrow
[01:56:00] down_below: levon: i thin
[01:56:00] levon: down_below, remove the binaries first, make clean and recompile it.
[01:56:00] down_below: k
[01:56:00] levon: hadees, and?
[01:56:00] hadees: levon, you were correct
[01:57:00] hadees: now the question is how do i fix it
[01:57:00] levon: ;)
[01:57:00] down_below: i only have to do ./configure --options && qmake xxx && make && make install
[01:57:00] down_below: right?
[01:57:00] down_below: i installed to another location
[01:57:00] levon: hadees, well, for audio it's easy: optical (de)cuplers.
[01:57:00] levon: but for video... I'm not sure.
[01:57:00] hadees: levon, can't i just run a ground wire or something
[01:57:00] levon: well, if you had a sat dish, you would not have the problem either
[01:58:00] levon: hadees, it won't help anyway.
[01:58:00] levon: you just cannot ground a tv coax yourself
[01:58:00] levon: you would ground all the neighbours devices if you tried.
[01:58:00] levon: but still would have another voltage level
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[02:00:00] levon: hadees, normally your cable provider should take care of correct grounding.
[02:00:00] levon: what you can do is measure the voltage difference between your ground and the coax ground
[02:00:00] levon: then call the provider and tell'em.
[02:00:00] ** levon opens up a b33r **
[02:00:00] levon: cheers every1
[02:01:00] hadees: levon, what about running it through a coax amp
[02:02:00] levon: hadees, good questions. A non grounded would not do any good. Maybe (if there is) a grounded one would help.
[02:02:00] levon: s/questions/question/
[02:04:00] levon: hadees, I have quite a similar problem.
[02:04:00] levon: Since I have optical sound, i don't hear and buzz but
[02:05:00] levon: I can "see" the buzz as little flicker in the background of a still picture
[02:05:00] levon: if I remove the coax, all is good
[02:05:00] levon: that problem is very common for cable tv.
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[02:05:00] levon: s/hear and/hear any/
[02:05:00] ** levon notes that his grammar is sh*t tonight. **
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[02:12:00] down_below: levon: i only have to do ./configure --options --prefix=/another/location && qmake xxx && make && make install right?
[02:13:00] levon: yes, but do a make [dist]clean before you configure just to be on the safe side
[02:13:00] down_below: ill try that tomorrow
[02:14:00] down_below: thanks
[02:14:00] levon: you're welcome
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[02:39:00] gary_: having an issue with fonts on the TV – they are extremely small. Have increased the font settings for small/medium/big, but nothing seems to help. Is there another place I should be changing font size. Most noteable issue, is the TV Guide and the Playback Recordings menu
[02:42:00] fatmatt: is it possible to change the font settings in mythbrowser? text on most websites is too small on the tv
[02:43:00] hadees: GreyFoxx, you there?
[02:44:00] gary_: don't have mythbrowser installed
[02:44:00] gary_: interesting to note, that a change in font size DOES have an effect on the CRT also attached.
[02:45:00] hadees: gary_, duh
[02:45:00] gary_: hadees: care to be more specific in your comment?
[02:45:00] hadees: <gary_> interesting to note, that a change in font size DOES have an effect on the CRT also attached.
[02:46:00] hadees: = duh
[02:46:00] gary_: your point? I have a CRT and TV hooked up to the video card. GUI changes should be reflected on both displays no?
[02:47:00] gary_: CRT on VGA, TV on SVideo
[02:47:00] hadees: yup, thats not intresting at all
[02:48:00] gary_: Again – your point? Perhaps a little less sarcasm and more pointed explanation may be more useful.
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[03:23:00] levon: night all
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[03:45:00] Jay: I'm getting Could not open cdrom_fd: Permission denied from mythtv. What device do I need to change the permissions on to resolve this?
[03:46:00] theturtle: your cdrom?
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[03:48:00] Jay: I just now figured it out. I looked at the permissions on /dev/cdrom, but I didn't realize it was a link to another device. Sorry for the stupid question.
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[03:54:00] Cowman: is there anyway to get two front ends to be able to watch live tv off a single tuner/backend?
[03:54:00] Cowman: obviously they'd have to watch the same channel...
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[03:59:00] anxt: Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost!
[03:59:00] anxt: i get this message over and over, anyone know how to fix or better yet get myth to use jack?
[04:00:00] Beirdo: ummm, compile it with support for jack, maybe
[04:00:00] anxt: umm of course
[04:00:00] anxt: but it still uses oss
[04:00:00] anxt: there seems to be no switch to force it to use jack
[04:00:00] Beirdo: dunno
[04:01:00] hadees: Beirdo, i figured it out, its all a grounding issue, you have any clue how I can fix the grounding
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[04:36:00] Jay: does anyone know why mythmusic keeps ejecting the cd when I try to import a cd?
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[04:49:00] ingletv: does anyone have advice on getting mythtv to work with XV on a 6600GT?
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[05:43:00] quink: hey anyone running gentoo and haveing troulbe with mythdvd?
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[06:01:00] Jay: I'm trying to import a cd with mythmusic, but it's not working. when I check mythfrontend.log I see this error: metadata.o: You don't seem to have any tracks. That's ok with me if it's ok with you.
[06:01:00] Jay: any ideas on what's going on here?
[06:02:00] quink: heh.
[06:02:00] quink: acn you mount/read the cd normally?
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[06:04:00] Jay: I can listen to the cd in mythmusic. I just can't import it. I can't mount a music cd in KDE. It complains about a bad superblock or something, but I can mount a data cd with no problem
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[06:04:00] quink: hm
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[06:07:00] Jay: This is driving me crazy. I'm about to pull my hair out. hahahahaha
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[08:02:00] xris: so quiet in here today.
[08:02:00] ** xris pokes Beirdo **
[08:03:00] mchou: yo xris
[08:03:00] mchou: maybe you can help me out :)
[08:03:00] xris: probably not. heh. what's up?  ;)
[08:03:00] mchou: is there a way to pass ./configure options to rpmbuild w/o modifying the spec file?
[08:04:00] mchou: on a source rpm of course......
[08:06:00] xris: depends on the spec
[08:07:00] mchou: how does the spec "pass thru" ./configure options?
[08:07:00] xris: by anticipating people wanting to do it and allowing for something like --define
[08:07:00] xris: very few do, though.
[08:07:00] xris: easier to just `rpm -i` the src.rpm, edit the spec and rpmbuild the spec
[08:07:00] mchou: haha
[08:08:00] mchou: that's just too lame....
[08:11:00] xris: not my fault spec builders are lame
[08:11:00] xris: I try to put all available options into my specs.
[08:12:00] mchou: hehe
[08:12:00] mchou: not blaming ya.
[08:12:00] mchou: just dumbass rpm.
[08:13:00] xris: not a problem with rpm, either.
[08:13:00] mchou: huh?
[08:13:00] xris: spec is basically a shell script
[08:14:00] mchou: rpm should have been written to allow pass-thru :)
[08:14:00] xris: whoever writes it can put whatever options in they want. can use the %{_configure} macro, or just do ./configure
[08:14:00] mchou: nah, that's too much a pita.
[08:14:00] xris: I like it for some stuff.
[08:15:00] xris: *if* they use the macro, then you can --define "optflags=--enable-whatever"
[08:15:00] mchou: default should be "pass-thru", and allow for %{configure} in spec...
[08:15:00] xris: or something like that
[08:16:00] xris: why? what if the program doesn't use ./configure — then where do the options go?
[08:16:00] mchou: nowhere. user error
[08:16:00] mchou: passed back up to rpm.
[08:17:00] xris: %configure:
[08:17:00] xris: CFLAGS="${CFLAGS:-%optflags}" ; export CFLAGS ;
[08:17:00] xris: CXXFLAGS="${CXXFLAGS:-%optflags}" ; export CXXFLAGS ;
[08:17:00] xris: FFLAGS="${FFLAGS:-%optflags}" ; export FFLAGS ;
[08:17:00] xris: for i in $(find . -name config.guess -o -name config.sub) ; do
[08:17:00] xris: [ -f /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/$(basename $i) ] && /bin/rm -f $i && /bin/cp -fv /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/$(basename $i) $i ;
[08:17:00] xris: done ;
[08:17:00] xris: woah, that's longer than I thought
[08:17:00] mchou: hehe
[08:17:00] xris: that's the %configure macro
[08:18:00] xris: anyway, doesn't make sense to me to pass random cli stuff in to ./configure — don't even know if the cli-parser can tell the difference between stuff meant for rpmbuild and stuff meant for ./configure.
[08:19:00] mchou: bah.
[08:19:00] mchou: ust want things easy to compile w/o touching a gazillion bits/files.
[08:19:00] mchou: just*
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[08:20:00] mchou: which is what you end up doing by modifying spec....
[08:22:00] mchou: or make configure macro mandatory in spec for things that use configure.....
[08:23:00] xris: huh? configure macro guarantees that configure gets run with the options that the distro dictates/prefers for its packages (arch, etc).. much better than just manually running ./configure./
[08:23:00] xris: you *can* pass options to the macro just fine.
[08:23:00] xris: look at this one: http://forevermore.net/files/mythtv_misc/mythtv.spec
[08:23:00] xris: that's the best way to do it (imho)
[08:24:00] mchou: no, that's not what I meant.
[08:24:00] xris: have --with and --without options for every configure option.
[08:24:00] mchou: hell no.
[08:25:00] mchou: that's one more darn thing to keep "current"
[08:26:00] mchou: default should be "pass-thru" mode (either via rpmbuild or in spec). imho.
[08:26:00] xris: thus, --define
[08:26:00] xris: and it gets passed through
[08:26:00] mchou: modifying spec (or keeping spec in lock step with ./configure options) is just a recipe for disaster.
[08:26:00] xris: but the spec is *supposed* to be kept current.
[08:27:00] mchou: lol
[08:27:00] mchou: never works that way though :)
[08:27:00] xris: the point of the spec is to CONTROL the options. if you want to deviate from the spec, then do it the old fashioned way.
[08:27:00] xris: I keep mine up to date.
[08:28:00] mchou: yeah, but no (commercial) packager can possibly keep current :)
[08:29:00] xris: why not? ubuntu and fedora seem to do well enough
[08:29:00] mchou: I mean I dont know how many packages there are in fc, but it's a BIG number :)
[08:30:00] mchou: gah!!!
[08:30:00] mchou: crap!
[08:30:00] xris: yeah. would be even better if there was only ONE packaging format (spec vs deb's mess o' files vs whatever gentoo uses vs ...), and then the upstream coders could handle it.
[08:30:00] mchou: I didnt mean to do a rebuild -bb!
[08:30:00] mchou: crap! now I lost my modded spec.
[08:30:00] mchou: wtf.
[08:31:00] xris: huh?
[08:31:00] xris: how would that do it?
[08:31:00] xris: -bb is on the spec itself
[08:31:00] mchou: the spec gets removed on sucessful compile
[08:32:00] xris: for `rpmbuild -bb file.spec` ? no it doesn't
[08:32:00] xris: bb means "build binary"
[08:32:00] mchou: oops, take that back. It's still there.
[08:32:00] xris: ba is "build all"
[08:32:00] xris: bs is "build source"
[08:32:00] xris: bp is "build prep"
[08:32:00] mchou: but that's pretty screwed up.
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[08:54:00] atomjack: when switching to an HD channel that is in 5.1 while watching live tv, mythfrontend crashes with the following error: "Channels count (6) not available: Invalid argument". I can then restart the front end and watch live tv again and watch the channel just fine. is this a bug or is there a fix?
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[08:58:00] xris: atomjack: not a known bug that I know if. searching trac would be more effective, though.
[08:58:00] xris: s/if/of/
[08:58:00] atomjack: ok
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[09:18:00] poonj: hey xris, you here?
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[09:18:00] mchou: poonj: nope
[09:18:00] thechris: has anyone gotten a tv-tuner to work on an ASUS motherboard?
[09:18:00] poonj: hey mchou: are you familiar with nuvexport?
[09:19:00] mchou: the boy signed off
[09:19:00] poonj: I ran the debug mode, and I get the error
[09:19:00] mchou: poonj: nope
[09:19:00] poonj: QTime::fromString: Parameter out of range
[09:19:00] poonj: ummm, okay
[09:19:00] mchou: thechris: why wouldnt it work? :)
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[09:41:00] thechris: mchou: wow, soory for the delayed response. i just purchased a hauppague mce500 and found that in my ASUS A8V mobo, well, i can't boot
[09:41:00] mchou: heh
[09:41:00] thechris: i can get to the BIOS, but cannot get to a bootloader
[09:42:00] mchou: nah, that's a boot loader problem.
[09:42:00] mchou: not a HW issue
[09:42:00] thechris: it doesn't boot
[09:42:00] mchou: if bios comes up it boots :)
[09:42:00] thechris: it detects the harddisks then stops
[09:42:00] mchou: try knoppix :)
[09:42:00] mchou: livecd.
[09:43:00] thechris: the card works in my epox based system
[09:43:00] mchou: it's NOT a HW issue
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[09:43:00] mchou: you probably hosed your MBR :)
[09:43:00] thechris: hmm. i'll try the gentoo or debian liveCDs that i have laying around
[09:44:00] thechris: mchou: that would give an error though
[09:44:00] thechris: this just stops.
[09:44:00] mchou: or take the card out and see if it boots completely
[09:44:00] thechris: mchou: with the card out it boots fine
[09:44:00] mchou: more likely you didnt seat the card in the PCI slot.
[09:44:00] thechris: mchou: i tried 2 PCI slots
[09:45:00] mchou: make sure it's pushed in hard.
[09:45:00] mchou: I dunno what to tell ya thn.
[09:45:00] mchou: then*
[09:45:00] thechris: it was in all the way.
[09:45:00] mchou: is this nforce3 or 4?
[09:45:00] thechris: i was hoping out of chance that the ASUS + TV tuner was common issue
[09:46:00] thechris: k8t800
[09:46:00] mchou: haha
[09:46:00] mchou: via crap.
[09:46:00] thechris: at the time i got the board there were a lot of issues with the nf sound and NIC stuff
[09:46:00] thechris: in linux
[09:46:00] mchou: yeah....
[09:46:00] mchou: not anymore though :)
[09:47:00] mchou: I got a a8n myself :)
[09:47:00] thechris: yeah, my new mobo is a nf3 from epox.
[09:47:00] mchou: well, I dunno what to tell ya.
[09:47:00] thechris: the NIC went bad recently, but i got a RMA from newegg in about 2 weeks round trip
[09:48:00] mchou: card obviously works.
[09:48:00] mchou: Nic on the epox?
[09:48:00] thechris: built in networking on the board got really flakey
[09:49:00] mchou: is it a marvel phy?
[09:49:00] thechris: yeah
[09:49:00] thechris: i booted winXP to see if it was a software error
[09:49:00] mchou: ppl have been complaining about premature death on those.
[09:49:00] thechris: the network would go up and down once per second
[09:50:00] mchou: what driver you use for nic on linux?
[09:50:00] thechris: and inform me each time...
[09:50:00] thechris: skge now
[09:50:00] mchou: and b4 the RMA?
[09:50:00] thechris: i used sk98lin until it got flagged "obselete"
[09:50:00] SlicerDicer-: fire the laser!
[09:50:00] thechris: random comment
[09:50:00] SlicerDicer-: target missed :P
[09:50:00] mchou: bah.
[09:50:00] SlicerDicer-: lol sorry hi everybody
[09:51:00] SlicerDicer-: sk98lin is flagged obsolete?
[09:51:00] SlicerDicer-: wth?
[09:51:00] mchou: I dont understand why ppl insist on using sk98
[09:51:00] thechris: replaced with skge
[09:51:00] SlicerDicer-: I dunno sk98lin works fine for me
[09:51:00] thechris: worked fine for me as well.
[09:51:00] mchou: what's wrong with forcedeth or even nvidia-eth?
[09:51:00] SlicerDicer-: till it either blows up, chews and spits, farts, shits or vomits I will use it
[09:52:00] thechris: well, i use forcedeth for my nf3 system
[09:52:00] SlicerDicer-: I use forcedeth
[09:52:00] SlicerDicer-: I also use via rhine
[09:52:00] SlicerDicer-: even the realtek gigabit
[09:52:00] thechris: oh
[09:52:00] SlicerDicer-: all depends
[09:52:00] thechris: anyone have tech support phone numbers for ASUS?
[09:52:00] thechris: the website is down
[09:52:00] mchou: it's in the manual
[09:52:00] thechris: well, i haven't checked
[09:52:00] mchou: front page
[09:52:00] thechris: but it always is
[09:53:00] SlicerDicer-: sorry thechris I must refrain from comment
[09:53:00] thechris: hmm. i left my manual at home, wonder if my roomates got his
[09:53:00] SlicerDicer-: hey mchou I got mozilla working by selecting bookmarks in myth
[09:53:00] thechris: SlicerDicer-: the tech support section is pretty much always undergoing "maintainence"
[09:54:00] mchou: finally got off my ass and recompile mplayer to work with xvmc. Sweet!!
[09:54:00] SlicerDicer-: but I really want to get mozilla imbedded in myth
[09:54:00] SlicerDicer-: thechris, there is a reason I call them anus boards
[09:54:00] mchou: haha
[09:54:00] mchou: asus aint so bad.
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[09:55:00] thechris: oh, and the inability to boot with my tv-tuner isn't the first problem i've had
[09:55:00] SlicerDicer-: one they look like something that comes out of a anus in color and also the tech support is shit then as well every product of theirs I have had needed to be replaced
[09:55:00] thechris: i was unable to install windows...
[09:55:00] SlicerDicer-: I stick with Gigabyte they are reliable mobos
[09:55:00] mchou: try an MSI and you will understand what POS really means :)
[09:55:00] SlicerDicer-: I own 6 gigabyte boards
[09:55:00] SlicerDicer-: will never go elsewhere they even RMA'ed one that had water damage
[09:55:00] SlicerDicer-: talk about service
[09:55:00] thechris: so far gigabyte is the only board that hasn't made me hate it
[09:56:00] thechris: but thats in my parents computer
[09:56:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: huh? Water damage?
[09:56:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou, yeah I was using water cooling it sprung a leek and they replaced the board after I told them what happend
[09:56:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: lol
[09:56:00] mchou: you fool.
[09:56:00] SlicerDicer-: but they know I buy alot from them I own video cards from them as well as a buncha mobos
[09:57:00] SlicerDicer-: well mchou they replaced it
[09:57:00] SlicerDicer-: that is awesome IMO
[09:57:00] SlicerDicer-: no cash had to be payed
[09:57:00] mchou: yeah, but it doesnt change the fact that you're still a fool :)
[09:57:00] ** thechris looks to see if i can get monarch.com to set this all straight. **
[09:57:00] SlicerDicer-: ahh I canceled my ideas for watercooling
[09:57:00] mchou: just a lucky fool is all.
[09:57:00] thechris: heh, wrong website
[09:57:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[09:58:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou, I always get lucky when it comes to fucking something up
[09:58:00] SlicerDicer-: I overclocked a gainward and blew it up they replaced it
[09:58:00] SlicerDicer-: I turned on a AMD 1.4ghz without a heatsink by mistake and AMD replaced it
[09:58:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: I should send you to the White House then :)
[09:58:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[09:58:00] mchou: mess with GWB :)
[09:58:00] SlicerDicer-: I am only good at fixing my messes
[09:58:00] SlicerDicer-: not other peoples
[09:58:00] mchou: give him some brain damage
[09:59:00] thechris: moreso?
[09:59:00] SlicerDicer-: well I am going to go play flatout :) I am bored I wana blow up a car
[09:59:00] mchou: watercool his brain :)
[09:59:00] mchou: flatout?
[09:59:00] mchou: is that a game?
[10:00:00] thechris: yes
[10:00:00] mchou: never heard of it.
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[10:01:00] thechris: hmm, i would describe it, but i'm sure if you really cared you would already be googling
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[10:01:00] theturtle: anyone know where i can find old drivers for a wintv pvr-250?
[10:01:00] theturtle: freenode died
[10:01:00] mchou: looks like dukes of hazzard.
[10:03:00] mchou: hauppauge should still have them.
[10:04:00] mchou: thechris: anyway, it sounds like your hard drive has some "issues"
[10:05:00] mchou: I mean you cound install windows with that board?
[10:05:00] mchou: couldnt*
[10:05:00] thechris: that one may be a windows issue
[10:05:00] thechris: possibly a windows on modern hardware.
[10:05:00] thechris: issue
[10:07:00] thechris: time to find the cheapest s939 mobo out there...
[10:08:00] mchou: that would probably be an ecs
[10:08:00] mchou: hehe
[10:08:00] mchou: you go matx than 939 boards could be had for $50.
[10:09:00] mchou: with firewire even :)
[10:09:00] thechris: where's this at?!
[10:09:00] mchou: newegg
[10:09:00] mchou: elcheapo foxconn mobo.
[10:09:00] thechris: refurb?
[10:09:00] mchou: nope. NIB
[10:10:00] thechris: hmm, its listed at $78 now...
[10:11:00] mchou: wow, they must have raised the price.
[10:12:00] mchou: dang, newegg is suck now.
[10:13:00] thechris: hmm. its 4:17PM... i need to change my clock
[10:13:00] thechris: 13 hours fast
[10:14:00] mchou: you try booting with a livecd yet?
[10:15:00] thechris: i would have to turn off this computer and remove the card.
[10:16:00] thechris: i guess i've got nothing better to do
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[10:23:00] poonj: hey mchou
[10:23:00] poonj: how much HD space do you have for your recordings?
[10:25:00] mchou: about 1TB
[10:26:00] mchou: 300GB full right now.
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[10:26:00] mchou: but I'm bad. I record and dont watch :)
[10:27:00] fweeee: Hello. I have a quick question – what is the best video player to use in mythtv? I think it comes with mplayer set up, but I have read that a lot of people use xine – whats the difference?
[10:27:00] mchou: just try them both.
[10:27:00] mchou: it's pointeless to give you a blow by blow description.
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[10:28:00] fweeee: I just want something that will play all my video files – but that would more come down to codecs then the specific player I suppose...
[10:31:00] metusine: i think xine does dvd menu's
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[10:31:00] metusine: not sure if internal player or mplayer does menu's
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[10:34:00] thechris: mchou: tried the livecd
[10:34:00] thechris: doesn't boot
[10:34:00] mchou: haha
[10:35:00] thechris: also, the board won't boost without a keyboard or HDD...
[10:35:00] thechris: keyboard not detected, press f1 to resume.
[10:35:00] mchou: what kind of drives you got? SATA or ATA
[10:35:00] mchou: haha
[10:36:00] thechris: ATA
[10:36:00] mchou: well well.
[10:37:00] mchou: I bet you got the junper on the HDD messed up :)
[10:37:00] mchou: jumper*
[10:37:00] thechris: but what does that have to do with the PCI card?
[10:37:00] thechris: the system boots just fine without the tv-tuner
[10:37:00] thechris: add tv-tuner = no boot
[10:37:00] mchou: that doesnt mean everything was hunky dory.
[10:38:00] thechris: will check jumpers right fast
[10:38:00] mchou: no wondows install tells me drive config must be messed up.
[10:39:00] mchou: what brand of drive is this?
[10:39:00] thechris: maxtor
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[10:40:00] thechris: 1 device is master, 1 device slave
[10:40:00] thechris: and it tells me that fact rigth before the boot stops
[10:40:00] mchou: what brand is the slave drive?
[10:40:00] thechris: same
[10:40:00] thechris: the drives are identical in modal
[10:41:00] mchou: ok.
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[10:41:00] mchou: guess it aint the drives
[10:41:00] thechris: the ram is also working
[10:41:00] thechris: memtest86 runs for hours
[10:41:00] atomjack: is there any way to make it so i don't have to switch tuner cards while watching live tv to watch an HD channel? (i have a pvr-350 for SD channels and an hd-3000 for HD)
[10:42:00] mchou: what bios say for PSU?
[10:42:00] mchou: like for the rails
[10:42:00] atomjack: if i have live tv on an SD channel, in order to watch an HD channel i have to hit Y to switch to that card – i'd like to be able to just change to a HD channel and have it automatically switch
[10:42:00] thechris: they are all pretty close. i think the 12V rail is a little over.
[10:42:00] mchou: over is better than under. :)
[10:44:00] thechris: hmm. i have a 1 year warrenty
[10:44:00] thechris: i wonder if i should scrape off some small part...
[10:44:00] mchou: for what? the mobo?
[10:44:00] thechris: send it back.
[10:45:00] thechris: maybe they've got a new version out or something
[10:45:00] mchou: nah, just send it back. Tell them exactly what the problem is.
[10:45:00] mchou: but it might not be worth the hassle.
[10:45:00] thechris: yeah
[10:45:00] mchou: not unless asus pays shipping.
[10:45:00] thechris: only if it fixes the problem
[10:46:00] thechris: $20 for shipping on a working mobo would be worth it
[10:46:00] thechris: as it is, the mobo is almost worthless
[10:46:00] mchou: bah, ask them to upgrade you to sli mobo if the 2nd one has problems :)
[10:47:00] ** thechris hates monarch computer **
[10:47:00] mchou: haha
[10:47:00] thechris: i've asked them to exchange for something else
[10:47:00] mchou: that's what you get for buying on inet.
[10:47:00] thechris: they tricked me into trying to "fix it myself"
[10:47:00] mchou: crap for support.
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[10:47:00] thechris: if i would have just sent it back first sign of trouble i could have exchanged it.
[10:48:00] thechris: but i wasted too much time on attempting to fix it
[10:48:00] mchou: thechris: you can still exchange it.
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[10:48:00] thechris: mchou: for the same modal
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[10:48:00] mchou: if you have documentation you complained to them within store warranty period.
[10:49:00] thechris: you would think
[10:49:00] mchou: the fact that you kept ot does not constitute "acceptance"
[10:49:00] mchou: it*
[10:49:00] thechris: their policy is exchange for same item only
[10:49:00] thechris: after 2 weeks
[10:49:00] mchou: maybe.
[10:50:00] mchou: but if you have correspondence b4 2 wk period you have them.
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[10:50:00] thechris: hmm. i might just have that in my google account
[10:50:00] thechris: err gmail
[10:50:00] thechris: or it might have been deleted from my other email accounts...
[10:51:00] mchou: tell them you went thru "due diligence" to try to fix the board.....
[10:51:00] mchou: but since the initial complaint is b4 2 wks, you're covered.
[10:52:00] mchou: if things get REALLY nasty complain to the state attorney general where monarch is hq.
[10:52:00] mchou: that would set them right quick.
[10:53:00] thechris: hmm. not back ideas
[10:53:00] mchou: monarch is in CA, no?
[10:54:00] thechris: GA
[10:55:00] mchou: this kind of scenario should be covered under "lemon" laws.
[10:56:00] thechris: but wouldn't they be able to exchange it for the same model?
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[10:56:00] mchou: they might still insist on exchange for same item.
[10:56:00] mchou: but if the 2nd one still has same issues, then they're fscked :)
[10:57:00] mchou: money back or different item :)
[10:57:00] mchou: so give them that choice :)
[10:58:00] mchou: I dont think you have much to loose by trying the 2nd one anyways.
[10:58:00] thechris: yeah, but if i have to pay twice for exchange shipping, well, i almost would be better just buying a new board
[10:59:00] mchou: no, they pay shipping both ways on the 2nd one.
[10:59:00] mchou: you still pay return shippin on the 1st one.
[11:00:00] mchou: which you'd have to do regardless.
[11:00:00] mchou: of what happens.
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[11:00:00] thechris: http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?c . . . EWTMP=Linear
[11:00:00] thechris: seems others have the problem too
[11:00:00] mchou: haha
[11:00:00] mchou: crappy via.
[11:00:00] mchou: their PCI implenetation can never be trusted.
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[11:01:00] mchou: implementation*
[11:01:00] mchou: thechris: I suggest you talk to directhex on this channel.
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[11:02:00] mchou: he swears via beast nforce3/4 :)
[11:02:00] thechris: it seems a bios upgrade is available.. beta bios...
[11:02:00] mchou: beats*
[11:02:00] thechris: man, i just want to run a beta version bios...
[11:02:00] mchou: yeahm give that a shot too.
[11:02:00] mchou: you got nothing to lose at this point.
[11:02:00] mchou: the board is basically a write off.
[11:02:00] thechris: true
[11:03:00] mchou: unless it happens to work :)
[11:03:00] thechris: yeah
[11:03:00] thechris: i have no floppy drives
[11:03:00] mchou: lol
[11:03:00] mchou: usb key?
[11:03:00] thechris: i will have to drive about an hour to get them.
[11:03:00] mchou: lol
[11:03:00] thechris: hmm, i should get a usb key
[11:03:00] laga: OT: do i try pc-bsd or desktopbsd now?
[11:04:00] mchou: thechris: wtf you live that you got to drive one hr for a floppy drive?
[11:05:00] thechris: closest people i know that have a FDD
[11:05:00] thechris: i guess i could borrow one from campus
[11:05:00] mchou: lol.
[11:05:00] thechris: but i'd rather not
[11:05:00] mchou: why not?
[11:05:00] mchou: campus is perfect place.
[11:05:00] thechris: whole ethics thing
[11:05:00] mchou: huh?
[11:05:00] thechris: and i could get fired from my campus job
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[11:06:00] mchou: go in the computer center and ask them to lend you a floppy drive. They will gladly do it.
[11:06:00] mchou: campus IT should have that flowing out of theiu ass.
[11:06:00] mchou: their
[11:06:00] thechris: hmm, good plan
[11:06:00] rah: are the www.mythtv.info people here?
[11:07:00] thechris: i think tomorrow is sunday
[11:07:00] thechris: oh, i graduated today
[11:07:00] thechris: so yeah
[11:07:00] thechris: tomorrow = sunday
[11:07:00] laga: rah: just ask your question ;)
[11:07:00] laga: thechris: no, today is sunday. 11am for me ;)
[11:08:00] thechris: well, i define tommorrow as the time after i wake up
[11:08:00] laga: oh, yeah
[11:08:00] laga: i had a really long friday then ;)
[11:08:00] thechris: i think the world should adopt the same standard
[11:09:00] mchou: thechris: shit or go buy one at compusa/staples/whereever. $10. beats paying for gas for 1 hr. drive.
[11:09:00] thechris: it'd be friday if only chris would ^&&*^ wake up
[11:10:00] thechris: why do i get the feeling that once i get the card to work with the mobo, it will not work with linux. or mythtv.
[11:10:00] mchou: haha
[11:10:00] mchou: that's a different issue
[11:11:00] mchou: (like ivtv)
[11:11:00] mchou: but plenty of ppl have 500 working.
[11:11:00] mchou: I have 2 150's working :)
[11:12:00] thechris: yeah
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[11:12:00] thechris: that 500 is the most annoying PCI card to put in too...
[11:12:00] mchou: why is that?
[11:13:00] thechris: the size of the card + the connectors position + the PCI bracket
[11:13:00] rah: laga: I don't have a question
[11:13:00] thechris: you have to kinda jiggle it in
[11:13:00] rah: laga: I have a comment to make
[11:13:00] rah: laga: so some specific people
[11:13:00] rah: laga: do you, laga, know if they are present?
[11:13:00] rah: s/so/to/
[11:15:00] laga: rah: i don't know. baylink isbn't here, at least
[11:16:00] rah: I see
[11:16:00] mchou: thechris: siue.edu? how big the ugrad population there?
[11:16:00] rah: laga: baylink is a mythtv.info administrator who comes here?
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[11:18:00] thechris: mchou: hmm, not sure. i generally stick to engineering
[11:18:00] mchou: thechris: heh, I figure siue is an aggie school :)
[11:18:00] rah: does anybody have a PVR-350?
[11:19:00] rah: does it have a TV output?
[11:19:00] rah: that I can watch DivXs on?
[11:19:00] thechris: mchou: aggie?
[11:19:00] mchou: agricultural
[11:19:00] thechris: oh.
[11:20:00] thechris: there is an ethanol research building
[11:20:00] mchou: haha, for all that corn :)
[11:20:00] mchou: bet they all get drunk and blind in there :)
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[11:21:00] thechris: we also have electrical and computer engineering, nursing, and other such degrees
[11:22:00] thechris: i think the ethanol research is for use in gasoline.
[11:22:00] mchou: lol. of course.
[11:24:00] mchou: directhex|work: hey, help thechris out man.
[11:24:00] thechris: i recently got a BS degree in EE from SIUE
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[11:25:00] mchou: directhex|work: maybe you can fix that POS VIA board.
[11:26:00] mchou: thechris: you said you JUST graduated?
[11:26:00] mchou: in August??
[11:26:00] thechris: well, its a bizzar story
[11:26:00] mchou: that's pretty weird time to graduate.
[11:26:00] thechris: i guess i graduated in may
[11:26:00] thechris: but i walked in august
[11:26:00] thechris: end of summer semester
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[11:35:00] milkyflava: Does anyone know how to get mythFM to work if you used Jarods guide using RPMs to set up myth?
[11:36:00] milkyflava: Do I need to download the .tar files and compile mythfm against them or is there an easier way?
[11:36:00] laga: milkyflava: install libmyth-dev
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[11:38:00] milkyflava: ahhh, and that will allow me to build mythfm without having to d/l the sources?
[11:42:00] laga: milkyflava: i think so
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[11:52:00] milkyflava: laga: thanks, installing it now and going to see if it works.
[11:56:00] ** rah pokes laga **
[12:01:00] laga: rah: sup?
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[12:18:00] milkyflava: laga: I needed libmyth-devel and libsndfile-devel, thanks for the help. It has now failed further along.
[12:18:00] laga: milkyflava: it's possible that it won't compile against libmyth 0.18.1
[12:20:00] milkyflava: laga: good point, on the site it says 0.18 and not 0.18.1
[12:21:00] laga: milkyflava: well, there shouldn't be much of a change between those
[12:21:00] laga: milkyflava: that error do you geT?
[12:21:00] laga: what*
[12:24:00] milkyflava: stationeditor.cpp: In constructor ‘StationEditor::StationEditor()’:
[12:24:00] milkyflava: stationeditor.cpp:119: error: cannot allocate an object of abstract type ‘StationListSetting’
[12:24:00] milkyflava: stationeditor.h:40: note: because the following virtual functions are pure within ‘StationListSetting’:
[12:24:00] milkyflava: /usr/include/mythtv/settings.h:31: note: virtual void Configurable::load()
[12:24:00] milkyflava: /usr/include/mythtv/settings.h:32: note: virtual void Configurable::save()
[12:24:00] milkyflava: make[1]: *** [stationeditor.o] Error 1
[12:24:00] milkyflava: make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/mythextra/mythfm/mythv4lradio'
[12:24:00] milkyflava: make: *** [sub-mythv4lradio] Error 2
[12:24:00] laga: sorry, dunno
[12:24:00] milkyflava: lol
[12:25:00] milkyflava: some I can figure out but this one I have no clue and google doesn't help.
[12:25:00] fweeee: I'm now outputing my new mythtv box to my TV – but the output looks a tad crooked – like out by 4 degrees or so. Can I do something about this? Like XRandR – will that help with that? Or does that just rotate stuff 90 degrees at a time?
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[12:33:00] milkyflava: fweeee: sorry, I don't know.
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[12:34:00] fweeee: milkyflava: I got my mythtv running – it shows live tv, records, and will play stuff I have downloa... I mean, encoded myself. I guess I can tweak it and get other things working at my leisure now.
[12:35:00] fweeee: milkyflava: I meant to have "Thats fine" at the start of that.
[12:35:00] milkyflava: heh
[12:36:00] milkyflava: maybe your vsynch or hsynch lines in your xorg.conf file?
[12:37:00] fweeee: Yeah. I'm researching that now. I'm scared to make changes now, cause its all working. (I bought the hardware for this over 2 months ago, and just plugged it in)
[12:38:00] milkyflava: make sure you make a copy of any config file before you change it. eg. cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig
[12:38:00] milkyflava: I learned that neat trick the hard way. :)
[12:39:00] fweeee: Yeah. my machine is full of conf_orig files.
[12:39:00] milkyflava: lol, same here
[12:39:00] fweeee: But now I'm getting to the stage where I want to play with the xorg.conf file, and there is already an xorg.conf_orig file there.
[12:39:00] fweeee: I'm going to have to start dating these orig files.
[12:41:00] fweeee: I am *sooooo* looking forward to going to my clients site tomorrow. The IT guy there has been making fun of me for putting so much effort into this – he says his $800AUD machine (jvc or something) is better, and I'm wasting my time. I'm going to log into mythweb from home and watch his jaw drop.
[12:41:00] fweeee: :D
[12:41:00] milkyflava: I name mine, like, xorg.conf.350tvout, xorg.conf.nv4400out etc,etc
[12:42:00] milkyflava: get mythstream and stream a show across the web
[12:42:00] milkyflava: mythstreamtv
[12:42:00] fweeee: Ahhh. the .350tvout means what you had working? Or what you were trying to get working.
[12:43:00] milkyflava: it means i had it working
[12:43:00] fweeee: milkyflava: Ummm, how much bandwidth does that require? mythstreamtv?
[12:43:00] milkyflava: I'm not sure, I was just reading about it tonight. It says you can adjust the bitrate for audio and video
[12:44:00] fweeee: Ahhhh. Not a bad idea. I have just started documenting my changes (like within the config files). funny how I wasnt doing it originally, considering that half of my job is coding.
[12:44:00] fweeee: Hmmmmm.
[12:44:00] milkyflava: it was an epiphany for me to name them like that
[12:45:00] rah: laga: baylink is a mythtv.info administrator who comes here?
[12:45:00] fweeee: Oooh, L&O.
[12:45:00] stoffel_: rah: yes
[12:46:00] rah: k
[12:46:00] laga: rah: i think so.
[12:53:00] milkyflava: mythtv is a sickness
[12:55:00] laga: no
[12:55:00] laga: ;)
[12:57:00] laga: can anyone give me few keywords for mythtv and firewire? e.g., a set top box that will work with it...
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[13:01:00] rah: laga: "mythtv"
[13:01:00] rah: laga: "firewire"
[13:01:00] rah: laga: "IEEE 1394"
[13:02:00] rah: my work here is done
[13:02:00] laga: thank you.
[13:02:00] laga: is it true that set top boxes are required to have a firewire output in the USA?
[13:02:00] milkyflava: laga: DCT-6200,SA 3250
[13:02:00] milkyflava: I think if you request it they have to provide one
[13:03:00] rah: *have* to have firewire?
[13:03:00] rah: *have* to according to whom?
[13:03:00] rah: the government?
[13:03:00] milkyflava: FCC
[13:04:00] rah: why would the FCC stipulate that a "set top box" (whatever it is you mean by that) *has* to have a firewire port?
[13:04:00] laga: rah: that's what i've heard. dunno, i don't live in the us.
[13:04:00] rah: that's like saying a car *must* have a DAB radio
[13:05:00] laga: yeah, flame away, i dont care ;)
[13:05:00] rah: I'd put money on them not having said that
[13:05:00] milkyflava: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachm . . . 03-225A1.pdf
[13:07:00] milkyflava: http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/
[13:07:00] rah: milkyflava: is there a reason you posted that PDF?
[13:08:00] milkyflava: It had to do with the FCC and the firewire port
[13:09:00] rah: what does it have to do with firewire ports?
[13:09:00] rah: I'm not going to read some random 80-page FCC document for the hell of it
[13:10:00] milkyflava: pages 17–18 talk about ieee 1394
[13:10:00] milkyflava: lol
[13:10:00] milkyflava: ahh c'mon rah
[13:10:00] milkyflava: it'll be fun
[13:11:00] rah: "In response, NCTA states that 1394 interfaces should not be required and instead market forces should determine the future acceptance of 1394 as a connector."
[13:11:00] rah: as I said, they wouldn't stipulate IEEE 1394
[13:12:00] rah: erm
[13:12:00] rah: THIS IS FOR A LABEL
[13:12:00] rah: they have to comply with these rules IN ORDER TO GET THE RIGHT TO USE A LOGO
[13:12:00] rah: THEY DON'T HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THOSE RULES
[13:13:00] milkyflava: ok, so I misunderstood on the first glance
[13:13:00] stoffel_: rah: no need to shout though
[13:13:00] rah: (where "they" are manufacturers of DVB equipment"
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[13:13:00] laga: yep
[13:13:00] laga: play nice, now ;)
[13:13:00] rah: stoffel_: need to emphasise tho
[13:13:00] milkyflava: I can read
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[13:13:00] milkyflava: sort of
[13:14:00] stoffel_: whatever, i'm off
[13:14:00] rah: I would expect nothing less
[13:14:00] rah: I wouldn't expect you to read my mind, however
[13:14:00] laga: cya stoffel_
[13:14:00] stoffel_: later, laga
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[13:18:00] milkyflava: hmm, check out page 50 of same pdf it does state what I had said earlier
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[13:25:00] milkyflava: g'night
[13:25:00] milkyflava: laga: thanks for the help
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[13:27:00] laga: np
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[13:30:00] k-man: hello
[13:30:00] k-man: anyone here in australia?
[13:31:00] k-man: why do channel 7 transmit the same stuff on all its digital channels?
[13:35:00] laga: does the pvr 150/500 come with a remote and is it supported by lirc?
[13:38:00] Beirdo: blah
[13:39:00] laga: fooblah.
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[13:43:00] Beirdo: what fun
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[13:50:00] adante: aussies ahoy
[13:50:00] adante: ?
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[14:15:00] fweeee: k-man: Its cause all the commercial stations have been given a wide spectrum of the digital frequency, but dont have enough programming for 3 channels.
[14:16:00] fweeee: k-man: Partly cause they only have one analog frequency, and most australians still use analog – not worth their effort to make content for 3 channels if only a small proportion of us can get it.
[14:16:00] fweeee: At least, I think thats why.
[14:17:00] smoke_: anyoen here have ati remote wondeR?
[14:17:00] fweeee: smoke_: Yeppo. Just spent last night, this morning, and this afternoon getting working perfectly.
[14:17:00] smoke_: fweeee, what distro?
[14:18:00] fweeee: smoke_: Fedora Core 4. Works out of the box for me – I just have to play around with xmodmap and .conf files to make it work pefectly.
[14:19:00] laga: somewhere at www.phaze.org/files/ (iirc) is a custom kernel drivr for it, optimized for mythtv.
[14:19:00] fweeee: lirc just wasnt doing it for me. I wanted to throw the damn thing out the window!
[14:19:00] smoke_: hmm
[14:19:00] smoke_: wtf
[14:19:00] smoke_: i couldn't get mine t owork
[14:19:00] smoke_: i see it in /proc/bus/usb/devices
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[14:19:00] smoke_: but i get nothing when i use xev ... nothing happens
[14:19:00] fweeee: smoke_: What disto? It worked out of the box for me for FC4, FC3, and knoppmyth.
[14:19:00] smoke_: slackware
[14:20:00] fweeee: Oh, nothing when you use xev? Bad sign... But I cant help you a great deal. My problems came after that.
[14:22:00] grusy: hello
[14:22:00] laga: hi grusy!
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[14:22:00] grusy: is there any trick to get the visuals running in mythmusic?
[14:22:00] smoke_: :/
[14:23:00] laga: grusy: it works out of the box for me. do you have a pvr 350?
[14:23:00] grusy: yes, i have
[14:24:00] grusy: laga: but i've complied everything from sources
[14:25:00] laga: grusy: and do you use it's tv-output?
[14:26:00] grusy: laga: no, i use the tv-out from graphic-card
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[14:28:00] laga: grusy: great. it should work then. did you notice that there are specific options in the configure script of mythplugins, like opengl? to get the spiffy visualistions, you need to enable them
[14:28:00] laga: grusy: --enable-fftw --enable-opengl iirc
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[14:29:00] grusy: laga:fftw and opengl are enabled, but what you mean with iirc?
[14:29:00] laga: grusy: iirc means 'if i recall correctly', it's justa phrase ;)
[14:30:00] laga: grusy: there is a setting somewhere in the frontend which visu... mythmusic should use
[14:30:00] grusy: laga: ok, :) i've compile warnings with goom but at least the other visuals have to run
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[14:31:00] grusy: laga: i set it to bumpscope and goom, but all i see is a black screen
[14:31:00] laga: :/
[14:32:00] laga: grusy: make sure you didn't press '5' accidentally, it gives me black screen ;)
[14:32:00] grusy: laga: no, i press 4 and 6 to rotate
[14:33:00] grusy: laga: but the preview window is blank, too
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[14:33:00] laga: sorry, can't help ya on this one
[14:34:00] grusy: ok, thx
[14:35:00] GreyFoxx: ps
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[14:42:00] grusy: laga: it's running, i should take care of case sensitive visual names :/
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[14:49:00] fweeee: Hmmmm. I want to show off mythweb to friends by sending them the url, but I dont want them to be able to change anything – is it possible to set up a "view only" user for mythweb?
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[14:53:00] down_below: levon: i tried to recompile after make distclean and there is still no config available in the channel editor :(
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[14:57:00] levon: down_below, that's very strange.
[14:57:00] levon: down_below, we *are* talking dvb here, right
[14:57:00] levon: ?
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[15:28:00] Douglas77: Anybody knows if I can use mysql 5.0 for mythtv?
[15:29:00] levon: Douglas77, I don't see why not.
[15:30:00] Douglas77: Thanks, I'll give it a try :)
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[16:25:00] darren11: there any australian mythtv ppl?
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[16:27:00] darren11: or moreso anyone that knows about DVB-T cards and their compatibility? (the web sites are scratchy with details at best)
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[16:40:00] Douglas77: I'm from _Austria_, if that's any help to you :))
[16:42:00] laga: Douglas77: and not in #mythtv-de yet? that's odd ;)
[16:42:00] levon: laga: .at != .de :P
[16:43:00] theturtle: same difference
[16:43:00] laga: hehe
[16:44:00] theturtle: ibet you speak german
[16:44:00] Douglas77: I'll just start a new channel for -at (/jk :)
[16:52:00] ** Atamido bets it's bavarian. **
[16:54:00] robin_: I'm wondering, on the forum (mysettopbox.tv) you have the threads where ppl can say if their system works without modifying any files.. I even see one with a fx5200 and pvr-150 (like me) have it getting to work without any changes.. Well how is that possible since the pvr-150 is not working in the old drivers.. and the fx5200 tv-out is not enabled by default :)
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[17:42:00] Anaxagoras: hello everybody
[17:44:00] robin_: Is there a fix for the grey (and frame switching) problem with XvMC ?
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[17:47:00] Anaxagoras: so i have been here a couple of days before, but i was wondering if there is somebody who else has an epia-m board and could give me some hints taking a good distribution which is easy to set up with the epia related drivers like unichrome and the sound-modules.
[17:48:00] Anaxagoras: my hardware is a via epia m9000 board
[17:48:00] Anaxagoras: and i would like to use mythtv with all the plugins and without a tv card.
[17:50:00] Anaxagoras: the strange thing is when i ask google for "epia m 9000 mythtv" the first hit is an article i wrote .)
[17:51:00] Anaxagoras: but i havent talked to somebody who actually made it setting up a viaepia box with mythtv
[17:51:00] robin_: I have no viaeepia so can't help you
[17:52:00] Anaxagoras: robin_: okay but thx anyway
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[18:17:00] zuralin: Anyone have nuvexport working with the latest version of ffmpeg?
[18:17:00] zuralin: from debian (marillat repo)
[18:17:00] zuralin: however you spell that
[18:25:00] shfifty: having lirc issues: i did a "yum install libirman", but when i try to "./configure --with-driver=irman" lirc i get an error saying "you need to first install the libirman package" — anyone know what might be going where? or where to look to find out?
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[18:26:00] Varanger:
[18:26:00] Varanger: ?
[18:26:00] grusy: Varanger: yes
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[18:27:00] Varanger: Is that a special option or it's very easy to do?
[18:28:00] grusy: Varanger: all is streamed from backend to frontend, you have nothing to do
[18:29:00] Varanger: I want to install MythTV and I have some questions about it...
[18:29:00] Varanger: I have a very modern P4 HTExtreme w/ 1024 RAM
[18:29:00] Varanger: (desktop)
[18:30:00] Varanger: and a very old AMD K6-II 300 Mhz notebook
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[18:31:00] Varanger: The notebook doestn't have a DVD driver, can it received the stream despite its speed?
[18:32:00] grusy: Varanger: try it, but i don't think it's running well
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[18:33:00] Varanger: Maybe not if the backend streams DVD info... but can I reduce it from MPEG2 DVD to MPEG1 480x480 and stream the MPEG1 ?
[18:34:00] jcsmith: hey all
[18:34:00] jcsmith: I'm considering building a mythbox
[18:34:00] jcsmith: and was wondering if any of you have any recomendations on an input card
[18:34:00] jcsmith: i've been looking at the various happauge cards but am not sure which one i should purchase
[18:35:00] grusy: jcsmith: pvr-250/350
[18:35:00] Varanger: What about a USB card? (but not the Plexor's) ?
[18:35:00] jcsmith: grusy: do you have a preference between the 250/350
[18:36:00] jcsmith: Varanger: i want to go internel as this is all most likely going into a box sitting in the tv room
[18:36:00] grusy: jcsmith: same cards but 350 has ir
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[18:36:00] jcsmith: what about the 500?
[18:37:00] jcsmith: it has two tuners correct?
[18:37:00] jonK: yes it does
[18:37:00] Varanger: jcsmith: oops... the question was for me .... ;) ... I prefer an external one but I don't know which to buy....
[18:37:00] jonK: but running a 500 in a box that also has a 350 may have problems
[18:38:00] jcsmith: jonK: have you used the 500, ivtv says that there unstable drivers support them, something just sounds well unstable about unstable drivers
[18:39:00] jcsmith: grusy: ir=infrared remote?
[18:39:00] grusy: jcsmith: yes
[18:39:00] jonK: I have a 350 and 2x500 cards in one box
[18:40:00] shfifty: ive got 2 500's – no problems with them/ivtv
[18:40:00] jcsmith: grusy: i was under the impression that the 250 had a remote also?
[18:41:00] grusy: jcsmith: oh sorry, your right
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[18:43:00] jcsmith: grusy: no problem
[18:44:00] grusy: jcsmith: got it: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html#ss22.24
[18:44:00] grusy: jcsmith: diff is the mpeg decoder in the 350
[18:46:00] jcsmith: grusy: do you perfer the 350 or the 250+ vid card with tv out?
[18:47:00] grusy: jcsmith: i've a 350 cause i first want to use the tv-out from the 350, but it was to slow with the pc i used, i bought a msi hermes barebone and use the tv out from vid card.works fine
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[18:54:00] Douglas77: Varanger: sorry for the late reply. AMDK6–2 300 might suffice, but the problem is the video card.
[18:54:00] Douglas77: I'm sure it's only PCI and not AGP, so the bandwidth is not high enough.
[18:55:00] Douglas77: There's some explanation in the mplayer-docs, but the site is extremly lame right now, so no URL :)
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[19:02:00] REyM]: anyone got a good howto to build the via epia mpeg2 xvmc libary?
[19:08:00] shfifty: anyone know where the ./configure script for lirc looks for the libirman package?
[19:09:00] GeckoFiend: REyM] there's a README that exmplains how to build it all in the archive with the unichrome stuff
[19:10:00] REyM]: heh, ok, haven't looked there yet
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[19:12:00] Anaxagoras: hey back here
[19:13:00] Douglas77: shfifty: pager configure.log might help
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[19:13:00] Anaxagoras: a little question for the video-configuration
[19:13:00] Anaxagoras: in which path should i mount the smb share in ?
[19:13:00] laga: Anaxagoras: mythvideo or mythtv?
[19:14:00] Anaxagoras: mythvideo
[19:15:00] Anaxagoras: i dont watch tv with it
[19:15:00] laga: it's in the mythvideo settings then
[19:15:00] Anaxagoras: yeah but i havent found any dokumentation for it.
[19:16:00] laga: just open your eyes and browse thru the settings.
[19:16:00] Anaxagoras: in utilities/setup/media/Videos/base config
[19:17:00] Anaxagoras: there is this first point : Film Directory
[19:18:00] Anaxagoras: i typed /mnt/stromberg/Movies/
[19:18:00] Anaxagoras: but mythvideo does not find any films
[19:18:00] Anaxagoras: and i already mounted the share
[19:18:00] laga: are they there?
[19:18:00] laga: ls -al /mnt/stromberg/Movies/
[19:18:00] Anaxagoras: yes
[19:19:00] Anaxagoras: they are in there
[19:19:00] Anaxagoras: i can see them all
[19:19:00] laga: and your user can access them?
[19:19:00] Anaxagoras: i opened mythfrontend with root to prove that
[19:20:00] laga: did it scan for movies?
[19:20:00] Anaxagoras: no .. how can i do that ?
[19:20:00] laga: umm, dunno. it happens when you enter the settings, iirc. you'll see a progress bar then
[19:21:00] poonj: hey zuralin, are you familiar with nuvexport?
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[19:27:00] Anaxagoras: everything works fine
[19:27:00] Anaxagoras: i am sooo happy !
[19:27:00] Anaxagoras: thx laga
[19:27:00] Anaxagoras: *g*
[19:27:00] laga: np ;)
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[19:45:00] REyM]: GeckoFiend wich package do I need? (for the epia xvmc thing)
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[20:00:00] poonj: hey xris
[20:01:00] poonj: you have a sec?
[20:01:00] xris: just woke up, need food.
[20:01:00] poonj: I ran nuvexport --debug, and I got the error QTime::fromString: Parameter out of range after running after running the command /usr/bin/nice -n19 mythtranscode --showprogress -p autodetect -c 1002 -s 2005–08 -02-23-00–00 -f "/tmp/fifodir_24723/" 2>&1
[20:01:00] poonj: okay
[20:01:00] poonj: I'll be back in a bit
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[20:08:00] xris: poonj: not a clue... never seen that before.
[20:08:00] xris: looks like you have an extra space in there or something, though.. after 2005–08
[20:09:00] poonj: umm
[20:09:00] poonj: okay
[20:11:00] Ashlar: hey xris, got an OT apache question for you.. do you know what the directive is that causes /foo to be translated to /foo/ ? ie /foo/index.*
[20:11:00] Ashlar: my google foo isn't working today.. not sure what the magic term is
[20:15:00] GeckoFiend: REyM] you might want to pop over to #unichrome
[20:15:00] xris: doesn't that happen automatically?
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[20:16:00] xris: or are you looking for something like mod_rewrite?
[20:16:00] Ashlar: xris: apparently not.. yah, might be.. not happening on new hosted server I recently got
[20:16:00] jams: Ashlar, DirectoryIndex
[20:16:00] Ashlar: ahh, thanks jams
[20:16:00] xris: jams: that'd be the other one, wasn't quite sure what he meant.
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[20:18:00] djalmask8: @find johnny rivers
[20:18:00] Ashlar: hrmm.. that must not be it
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[20:19:00] Ashlar: I've got that set up with all the right index.* extensions
[20:19:00] Ashlar: htm, html, php, shtml, etc etc
[20:19:00] xris: Ashlar: or their config doesn't allow you to override
[20:19:00] Ashlar: eh, it's a root server, so I can change whatever.. let me look
[20:20:00] xris: ah
[20:20:00] xris: that directive should be set in the main httpd.conf (or one of its includes), though
[20:20:00] Ashlar: hrmm.. here's the interesting thing.. if I put /foo/ it finds /foo/index.html ... but not if I just put /foo
[20:20:00] xris: odd
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[20:21:00] Ashlar: so the DirectroyIndex is working.. that's good.. now how to add the / on the end
[20:21:00] Ashlar: wonder if that's mod_rewrite
[20:22:00] xris: mod_rewrite *can* do that... but I don't think that's what should be used.
[20:22:00] Ashlar: yah
[20:22:00] Ashlar: if it were vignette, I'd know what the problem is.. vignette does a 302 on a /foo to redirect to /foo/
[20:22:00] sparky_elite: hey I get two channels on my WinPvr350
[20:22:00] sparky_elite: channel 5 and 6
[20:23:00] sparky_elite: and I have a WinPvr250 card in my boxen as well
[20:24:00] xris: Ashlar: mod_rewrite can do that
[20:25:00] ** Ashlar just got a new server with apache 2.0 and is lost :) **
[20:25:00] sparky_elite: Ashlar, I am quite good at apache
[20:25:00] sparky_elite: wats the problem?
[20:26:00] Ashlar: sparky_elite, paths like /foo aren't redirecting to /foo/
[20:26:00] sparky_elite: is your hypothetical foo an alias?
[20:26:00] Ashlar: nope, directory
[20:26:00] sparky_elite: so foo is a directory inside your root?
[20:27:00] Ashlar: yup
[20:27:00] jams: Ashlar, make sure dir_module is loaded
[20:27:00] sparky_elite: and if you type in servername/foo your don't get the index of foo?
[20:27:00] Ashlar: correct sparky_elite
[20:28:00] sparky_elite: but if ya add the /foo/ it works?
[20:28:00] Ashlar: right.. so DirectoryIndex works
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[20:28:00] Ashlar: jams, mod_dir? mod_directory?
[20:28:00] Ashlar: or dir_module?
[20:29:00] Ashlar: (that might be my problem, can't seem to locate it)
[20:29:00] jams: mod_dir
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[20:30:00] Ashlar: cool, thanks
[20:30:00] sparky_elite: what does your error log file say when you try /foo  ?
[20:31:00] sp0ngeb0b: is there a live version for this ?
[20:32:00] sparky_elite: what browser are you trying this with?
[20:32:00] Ashlar: multiple, sparky_elite.. let me try mod_dir, 1 sec
[20:33:00] sparky_elite: A "trailing slash" redirect is issued when the server receives a request for a URL http://servername/foo/dirname/.
[20:34:00] sparky_elite: so jams was correct : )
[20:34:00] Ashlar: ahh, think it's mod_autoindex
[20:34:00] jams: of course I am =)
[20:34:00] sparky_elite: now jams why do I only get 2 channesl?
[20:34:00] sparky_elite: channel 5 and 6
[20:35:00] sparky_elite: i tried playing around with the frequencies, but I can't get any more channels
[20:36:00] xris: sparky_elite: you shouldn't need frequencies or anything like that in the US.
[20:37:00] xris: just download the DD info and it should work fine
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[20:38:00] sparky_elite: i have the correct line up in mythtv
[20:38:00] sparky_elite: from datadirect
[20:38:00] sparky_elite: methinks atleast
[20:40:00] xris: sparky_elite: first question.. broadcast or cable?
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[20:40:00] sparky_elite: cable
[20:41:00] xris: and you configured it using the us_cable frequency table option?
[20:41:00] sparky_elite: yea
[20:41:00] sparky_elite: right now i'm testing with mplayer and ptune-ui
[20:41:00] xris: ahh
[20:41:00] xris: that should theoretically work, too
[20:41:00] sparky_elite: I get fox and the spanish channel
[20:42:00] xris: on all cards? or just the 350?
[20:42:00] sparky_elite: um let me check
[20:43:00] sparky_elite: yea both cards video0 and video1 get channels 5 and 6
[20:44:00] ** sparky_elite starts to watch spanish channel and learn spanish **
[20:44:00] sparky_elite: until i can get others to work
[20:44:00] xris: weird
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[20:45:00] sparky_elite: i had it working before I reinstall knoppmyth to the latest version
[20:45:00] sparky_elite: so i'm assuming its a ?driver? setting
[20:45:00] xris: my suggestion would be to rerun mythtvsetup and wipe all card/channel info, then set it up again.
[20:45:00] sparky_elite: ok
[20:45:00] xris: not that *that* would affect ptune
[20:45:00] sparky_elite: leave channel settings?
[20:45:00] xris: wipe everything
[20:45:00] jams: xris / sparky_elite wrong tuner type maybe?
[20:46:00] xris: as if it was a clean install
[20:46:00] xris: jams: good point.
[20:46:00] sparky_elite: i looked in the modules file for ivtv and tried changing the tuner type
[20:46:00] sparky_elite: but it complained to me...
[20:46:00] sparky_elite: i could try it a bit more, it was commented out
[20:47:00] Ashlar: Okay, I am such a dumbass.. I used telnet to see what was what.. because I hadn't set the servername, the redirect to /foo/ failed
[20:48:00] jams: apache should have guessed the servername
[20:49:00] jams: unless your host networking is also setup in a strange fashion
[20:49:00] Ashlar: no, I forgot to change the servername in httpd.conf from 'ensim.ev1server.com' to my actual domain.. so the redirect was to http://ensim.ev1servers.com/foo/
[20:50:00] jams: oh so you had a bogus servername
[20:50:00] Ashlar: right
[20:50:00] jams: that's a different story
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[20:55:00] sparky_elite: if I comment out options tuner type=2 then I get channels 5 and 6, if I uncomment that line, I get nothing
[20:56:00] Ashlar: sparky_elite, if you do comment that out, and modprobe tveeprom, what tuner type does it see?
[20:57:00] sparky_elite: i modprobed tveeprom and got nothing in dmesg
[20:58:00] sparky_elite: when I read through dmesg, one card is type=2, the other type=39
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[21:19:00] Ashlar: ahh
[21:20:00] Ashlar: well, when you read through dmesg and determined type 2, was that with the line commented, or uncommented?
[21:20:00] sparky_elite: commented
[21:20:00] sparky_elite: it figured it out by itself
[21:20:00] Ashlar: well that's good, at least
[21:21:00] Ashlar: so the next thing I'd try would be ptune-ui.pl and try the different freq tables..
[21:21:00] shfifty: im trying to run "irxevent &" but the command isnt found – do i need to install this program seperately?
[21:22:00] t0t3r: irxevent is part of lirc
[21:22:00] sparky_elite: ntsc-cable-hrc is working : ) w00t
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[21:23:00] Ashlar: woot woot!
[21:23:00] sparky_elite: i could have sworn that I tried it
[21:23:00] sparky_elite: but I rebooted, then tried it, and viola
[21:24:00] sparky_elite: now to get lirc to work
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[21:25:00] shfifty: t0t3r: ive got lirc installed and ive got irw working, but when i try to run "irxevent &" i get "command not found" – can it be installed seperately? or do i need to do something else to get irxevent working?
[21:26:00] t0t3r: hmm
[21:26:00] t0t3r: "locate irxevent"
[21:26:00] Ashlar: yah, might not be in your $PATH
[21:26:00] t0t3r: voher vllt updatedb ...
[21:27:00] sparky_elite: seems like its in lirc-x package in debian
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[21:28:00] shfifty: ive got a few irxevent files – irxevent.c or irxevent.Po?
[21:30:00] Ashlar: hrmm.. did you install lirc via some package?
[21:30:00] shfifty: no, i downloaded the tar file and used make
[21:30:00] Ashlar: hrmm.. make install should have placed it alongside irw
[21:31:00] Ashlar: oh wait
[21:31:00] Ashlar: when you ran setup, there was an option for also compiling the X tools
[21:32:00] shfifty: i checked that option
[21:32:00] shfifty: "complie tools for x windows"
[21:33:00] Ashlar: poop.. right
[21:33:00] Ashlar: well, if you've still got the directory where you compiled it, go look in lirc-<version>/tools
[21:34:00] shfifty: the files installed in /usr/local/bin are ircat, irexec, irpty, irrecord,irsend,irw,mode2, and workmanir
[21:34:00] shfifty: irxevent.c is in the tools directory
[21:34:00] Ashlar: how odd
[21:35:00] shfifty: no irxevent.o though....
[21:35:00] shfifty: it seems all the other programs that got installed have a .o file also
[21:35:00] Ashlar: right.. xomething about the configure / compile excluded that.. like it couldn't find X libs or something
[21:36:00] shfifty: where would x libs normally be found?
[21:37:00] shfifty: using fc3
[21:37:00] Ashlar: hrmm.. try looking in config.status, see if --with-x is included at the top
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[21:39:00] shfifty: yes, "--with-x" is included in a commented out "./configure ..." line
[21:41:00] Ashlar: well, copy and run that line
[21:41:00] Ashlar: look for "checking for X... " in the output
[21:41:00] shfifty: "checking for X... )cached) no"
[21:42:00] Ashlar: aha
[21:42:00] shfifty: yes, "aha" indeed...
[21:43:00] Ashlar: not sure what package has the xlibs it's looking for though
[21:43:00] shfifty: any guesses? ill settle for guesses at this point...
[21:43:00] Ashlar: and randomly installing anything X related will cause a world of hurt (I know from experience)
[21:44:00] shfifty: what about recompiling myth with lirc support? how painful would that be?
[21:44:00] Ashlar: xlibs conflicts with foo dev, broken dependencies, yadda yadda yadda
[21:44:00] Ashlar: not hard at all, really, just a bit time consuming
[21:44:00] Ashlar: if you did it once, and left everything as is, should be pretty simple
[21:45:00] shfifty: any links to a good how-to?
[21:45:00] shfifty: i used yum install mythtv-suite the first time
[21:45:00] Ashlar: ahhh
[21:45:00] Ashlar: and it didn't install the lirc compatible version? I thought that was the default these days
[21:46:00] shfifty: thatd be great – is there a way to check?
[21:46:00] Ashlar: well, when mythfrontend starts up, it complains about a missing .lircrc file, IIRC
[21:48:00] shfifty: no missing .lircrc complaint, but i do get a lirc_init failed after a "could not connect to socket" and "conection refused"
[21:48:00] shfifty: so i assume it was compiled wih lirc support?
[21:48:00] Ashlar: ahh, perfect
[21:48:00] Ashlar: yup
[21:49:00] Ashlar: it's looking for lircd to connect to
[21:50:00] shfifty: ok – i started lircd and now i have to missing lircrc complaint – perfect
[21:50:00] shfifty: thanks for all the help
[21:51:00] Ashlar: np
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[22:02:00] jonK: shifty did you have lirc working and then it quit working?
[22:02:00] Ashlar: hrmm.. still having hostname issues.. changing 'ServerName' and having 'UseCanonicalNames on' doesn't seem to have the desired effect.. checking in #apache
[22:05:00] shfifty: jonK: no, after about 3 days this is the first time ive had it working
[22:06:00] jonK: saw... i read some more of your converations after askign the question
[22:06:00] jonK: so you have it working?
[22:11:00] shfifty: mostly – irw is working great – im creating the lircrc file now to see if i can get the remote working with mythtv
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[22:12:00] jonK: cool... when you say "creating" are you building one by hand?
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[22:12:00] jonK: and what kind of remote?
[22:13:00] shfifty: its a kameleon 4-in-1; 15–2136 from radio shack
[22:13:00] jonK: unfamiliar with... in building one also be sure to read the documentation for lircmd, you can use your remote as a mouse
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[22:14:00] shfifty: thanks
[22:14:00] jonK: and irexec, you can use function buttons to run mythfrontend, shutdown, and another command line actions, or scripts
[22:15:00] shfifty: thats cool, not sure whatd i use it for besides mythfrontend... any useful suggestions?/
[22:16:00] jonK: it might be worth adding a reboot script, if things lockup, have one button to reboot (but accitdental presses would cause asspain)
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[22:17:00] jonK: if you're using the box exclusively as a mythtv pvr
[22:17:00] jonK: it may be of limited usefulness
[22:17:00] jonK: i haven't really done much with it myself (mostly due to lack of time)
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[22:18:00] shfifty: its basically a dedicated myth box... no monitor attached so doing anything but watching tv proves difficult
[22:19:00] shfifty: its hard to read text on the tv screen
[22:20:00] galimon: is there any sort of trick to get user jobs to run? I have 2 setup in mythtv-setup program, but they never seem to run
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[22:23:00] jonK: what jobs?
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[22:25:00] galimon: well one is "mythcommflag --gencutlist -f %DIR%/%FILE%"
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[22:32:00] atomjack: is there a way to remap the space key while watching TV programs to pause instead of setting a save point? there doesn't seem to be a place to do that in the keybindings editor in mythweb..
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[22:33:00] mchou: anybody here compile xine with nvidia's xvmc here?
[22:33:00] mchou: can't for the life of me figure out how to do it.
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[22:39:00] sparky_elite: hey i'm back..i'm having trouble with mythweb getting the right time
[22:40:00] sparky_elite: it says its 8 (UTC) although it is set to EDT so it should be 4PM
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[22:45:00] xris: sparky_elite: check php.ini
[22:46:00] xris: not sure what to look for, but the time it displays is formatted according to php's settings.
[22:48:00] sparky_elite: yea I thought of that so restart apache after I changed the timezone
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[22:48:00] MrSpiffy: moo
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[22:52:00] MrSpiffy: mmm
[22:52:00] MrSpiffy: trout
[22:53:00] MrSpiffy: xris, made real progress on that epia mini-tx set top box
[22:53:00] MrSpiffy: it is good that myth has setup options for gui/tv playback size over/under scan and offset
[22:54:00] mchou: hah, I think I may have figured it out.
[22:54:00] MrSpiffy: it made getting a full screen image possible,
[22:54:00] mchou: the documentation sucks
[22:55:00] mchou: Step 1 should be go get the XvMC wrapper library from sourceforge.
[22:55:00] jonK: is mooing verboten?
[22:55:00] MrSpiffy: moo
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[22:56:00] Mrgoose: hello
[22:57:00] MrSpiffy: moo
[22:57:00] Mrgoose: you using a nvidia card?
[22:59:00] mchou: Mrgoose: who are you asking?
[22:59:00] Mrgoose: whoever
[22:59:00] mchou: lol. isnt everyone on this channel using nvidia? :)
[23:00:00] Mrgoose: cause im using a geforce4 mx4000 and xorg and whenever i try to use the latest drivers X crashes when i have svideo plugged up. It works when just the CRT is plugged up
[23:00:00] fatmatt: now and then I see a reference to a kernel/gpl nvidia module, does such a thing exist?
[23:00:00] mchou: sounds like you need a plunger :)
[23:01:00] Mrgoose: also how do i make it so video only shows up on my tv, and not the CRT
[23:01:00] Mrgoose: i want X to show up on both, but i only want video to show up on the TV
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[23:08:00] sparky_elite: Mrgoose, you could have a dual setup like I do, then tell mythtv to only display one say Screen1 which would be the tv
[23:09:00] Mrgoose: how would i do that?
[23:09:00] Mrgoose: i have it set up for clone right now
[23:09:00] sparky_elite: yea...you want xinerama or a dual display system
[23:09:00] sparky_elite: i can send you my xorg file if you would like, although its for ati
[23:10:00] Mrgoose: ok
[23:10:00] sparky_elite: e-mail?
[23:10:00] sparky_elite: or how?
[23:11:00] Mrgoose: pastebin.com
[23:11:00] Mrgoose: or email
[23:11:00] Mrgoose: stefon@gmail.com
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[23:17:00] shfifty: is there a list of the accecptable values for he lircrc "config" parameter?
[23:20:00] sparky_elite: Mrgoose, did ya get my config
[23:20:00] Mrgoose: lookin at it now
[23:20:00] Mrgoose: thanks
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[23:21:00] BMOC: hey jams you there?
[23:22:00] poonj: hey xris
[23:22:00] poonj: you back?
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[23:31:00] sparky_elite: Mrgoose, I have two displays, one is laptop, one is an external monitor
[23:31:00] sparky_elite: laptop is screen0, monitor is screen1
[23:31:00] sparky_elite: i'm assuming you can copy it with monitor screen0 and tv as screen1
[23:31:00] sparky_elite: your'll probably have ot setup 2 devices
[23:31:00] sparky_elite: both being your nvidia graphics card
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[23:33:00] Mrgoose: cool
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[23:41:00] hadees: anyone who uses a Niveus rf Remote around?
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