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| [00:12:00] | k-man: | morning all |
| [00:12:00] | k-man: | if i have 2 tuner cards |
| [00:12:00] | k-man: | that tune to the same set of channels |
| [00:12:00] | k-man: | does mythtv treat those channels as the same or different? |
| [00:13:00] | k-man: | ie, will channel 2 on one card be recognised as the same channel 2 on the other card? |
| [00:15:00] | REyM]: | anyone uses lcdproc with mythtv? |
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| [00:24:00] | xris: | k-man: mythtv only cares about the listing sources you attach to each card. |
| [00:24:00] | xris: | not the cards... in that sense |
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| [00:40:00] | XAD|onoff: | ahhhh, can't get radio to work. when changing the audio input in ivtv code I can get sound but only the TV-sound not the radio!!! |
| [00:41:00] | fweeee: | XAD|onoff: What are the benefits of using mythtv for radio? |
| [00:41:00] | k-man: | xris, so i can attach the same source to 2 cards? |
| [00:41:00] | k-man: | xris, i'm really having trouble getting the epg data to show up in mythtv |
| [00:41:00] | k-man: | its very strange |
| [00:42:00] | fweeee: | k-man: You still going? |
| [00:42:00] | k-man: | yeah *sigh* |
| [00:42:00] | k-man: | been at it all night! |
| [00:42:00] | fweeee: | k-man: My channels are all cool now – I'm trying to get my remote going now – but the infrared wont work, I'm going to fall back onto the ATI remote wonder. If I can find it... |
| [00:42:00] | fweeee: | k-man: *all* night. |
| [00:42:00] | rtsai: | k-man: yes, you can attache the same source to 2 cards. I have a single antenna split to two Hd-3000 cards |
| [00:42:00] | fweeee: | I quit at 1am. |
| [00:42:00] | XAD|onoff: | well then you have a Media Center... but this is not only for MythTV... this is ivtv that MythTV... |
| [00:43:00] | fweeee: | XAD|onoff: Oh, ok. For me, I dont see the huge benefits of having radio on my mythtv, to make it worth the pain I'd have to go through to get it. |
| [00:44:00] | fweeee: | Another question – does anyone know where my ATI remote wonder is? In the loungeroom? Computer room? Give me a hint someone. :( |
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| [00:44:00] | k-man: | fweeee, actually, i was just kidding, i went to bed at mignight |
| [00:44:00] | k-man: | anwyay |
| [00:44:00] | k-man: | gtg |
| [00:45:00] | k-man: | ttyl |
| [00:45:00] | REyM]: | anyone got an idea where to config to let mythtv work with lcdproc? |
| [00:45:00] | XAD|onoff: | well, you do play CD/MP3 on it right?? |
| [00:46:00] | fweeee: | XAD|onoff: I suppose I might, after I have got it working fine for TV. |
| [00:46:00] | fweeee: | I'm a sucker for punishment, so I suppose I will. |
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| [00:48:00] | poonj: | hey xris: you around? |
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| [00:50:00] | hadees: | hey anyone one else not able to switch tuners when you hit |
| [00:50:00] | hadees: | 'c' in liveTV |
| [00:51:00] | hadees: | it just flashes and stays on the same tuner |
| [00:51:00] | stoffel: | cause y switches tuners |
| [00:51:00] | stoffel: | c switches inputs afaik |
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| [00:57:00] | hadees: | stoffel, that might explain it =) |
| [01:02:00] | Atamido: | I am using a 1–2 splitter to split the cable for my cablemodem and my cable TV. The cable TV line goes to my PVR-500, where it is split for the two tuners it has. Should I be using a signal booster before the card? |
| [01:04:00] | fatmatt: | Atamido: hows the signal quality? I'd be careful about amps on cable, there are some things in my cable contract about putting on non-certified equipment |
| [01:05:00] | Atamido: | It's hard to say. It looks blurry, but I am using it on a crappy LCD panel. |
| [01:06:00] | Atamido: | My cable provider recommends a booster if you have 3 connections. |
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| [01:07:00] | fatmatt: | if it's just blurry theres probably not a lot you can do about it with an amp I suspect. My cable modem has a web page that shows signal strength, I lose a couple of db with the splitter on |
| [01:08:00] | fweeee: | Weird – I cant get any sound with some channels with my dvb-t card – it isnt possible to geta crystal clear picture without sound, is it? |
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| [01:08:00] | shido: | any tda9887 , cx8800,cx88xx users? |
| [01:09:00] | Atamido: | fweeee: Nope. |
| [01:09:00] | fatmatt: | Atamido: I don't have a pvr500 but if all the tuners are internal on that device then I would think that there would be low loss things or in built amps |
| [01:09:00] | fatmatt: | fweeee: what card is it? |
| [01:09:00] | Atamido: | That's what I was thinking, but I really wanted to make sure. |
| [01:10:00] | fweeee: | fatmatt: Avermedia 771 DVB-T |
| [01:10:00] | fweeee: | Atamido: Which would imply there is something wrong with the signal, right? cause some channels come with sound, some dont. The picture is perfect for all. |
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| [01:10:00] | xris: | poonj: what's up? |
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| [01:11:00] | fatmatt: | there was something on the mailing list about switching between audio streams |
| [01:11:00] | fweeee: | Atamido: Hmmmm, very weird – I just switched to the HD version of the same channel, and now there is sound! |
| [01:12:00] | Atamido: | fweeee: The sound for DVB-? is encoded mixed in with the video. If you are picking up the video well enough to decode it, then you are also picking up the audio well enough. |
| [01:12:00] | fatmatt: | what if you switch back to the SD chan? |
| [01:13:00] | ** Atamido remembers having weird audio/video decoding issues using DVB-S with sucky software. ** | |
| [01:13:00] | fweeee: | Atamido: Thats what I thought. |
| [01:13:00] | fweeee: | fatmatt: Not sure. I'll try it in a sec – doubt it will work. |
| [01:14:00] | fweeee: | fatmatt: But I did try another one of the SD channels before g oing for the high def. (Our stations broadcast the same stuff on several digital frequencies) |
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| [01:17:00] | shido: | any conexant users? |
| [01:17:00] | shido: | the card with the radio on it, tv @anywhere |
| [01:17:00] | shido: | zapping gets picture |
| [01:17:00] | shido: | but no sound |
| [01:17:00] | shido: | just white noise |
| [01:18:00] | fatmatt: | fweeee: youir in aust? |
| [01:21:00] | fweeee: | fatmatt: Yar |
| [01:21:00] | fatmatt: | ditto |
| [01:21:00] | fweeee: | Ahhhh. |
| [01:21:00] | fweeee: | I think I got the problem – I might have had two channels with the same channel number. |
| [01:22:00] | fweeee: | eewwww, bigpond. :) (I changed from them a few months back). |
| [01:23:00] | fatmatt: | dial up, work, optus cable at home |
| [01:23:00] | fatmatt: | every second dynamic ip I get is on an rbl and half my emails get lost |
| [01:24:00] | fweeee: | :) I hate bigpond. Soooooo much. |
| [01:25:00] | fatmatt: | did you know austnet checks to see if your ip is blacklisted for being an open relay? |
| [01:26:00] | fatmatt: | I suspect the blacklists are also responsible for our clients not getting a large number of emails we send. |
| [01:27:00] | fatmatt: | well, not a large number, more like, large percentage. I had to change mailservers |
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| [01:27:00] | fatmatt: | in short, I hate BP as well |
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| [01:32:00] | fweeee: | Ahhh, cause they use dynamic IP addresses, the previous user of the IP might have had open relays. |
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| [01:33:00] | fatmatt: | I find it hard to believe that so man had open relays |
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| [01:33:00] | fatmatt: | and BP hasn't done anything to remove them, some of the blacklistings go back 2 years |
| [01:34:00] | XAD|onoff: | atamido?? |
| [01:35:00] | Atamido: | ? |
| [01:36:00] | Atamido: | XAD|onoff: Eh? What's up? |
| [01:36:00] | XAD|onoff: | did you say you connect your cable tv to both connectors on your PVR500?? |
| [01:36:00] | XAD|onoff: | with a splitter?? |
| [01:37:00] | hadees: | Atamido, about your singal booster you need to do that as close as possible to the source of your house |
| [01:37:00] | hadees: | Atamido, i don't want to say all signal boosters work but i know there are boosters that are okay to use with cable modems |
| [01:37:00] | hadees: | thats what i have |
| [01:38:00] | XAD|onoff: | the PVR500 has one radio and one TV connector... each one goes to both tuners... |
| [01:40:00] | Atamido: | XAD|onoff: I have a splitter that sends one to the cable modem and one to the PVR-500. The PVR-500 then has it's own internal splitter. |
| [01:40:00] | Atamido: | hadees: I'm actually surprised that the cable modem works at all. I live in an old apartment complex with old wiring and poor management. |
| [01:43:00] | hadees: | Atamido, i live in an apt also and it sucks, you are almost stuck at what they give you but if you want to boost you need to do it as close to the source as you can get otherwise your boosting static |
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| [02:02:00] | hadees: | anyone have a clue what this card is? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116620 |
| [02:02:00] | hadees: | it says its a Hauppauge 1042 PCI Interface Win TV150 PVR-MCE Tuner Card for MCE – Retail |
| [02:02:00] | hadees: | it looks like a pvr-500 |
| [02:02:00] | hadees: | and costs only $66 |
| [02:04:00] | hadees: | i am just trying to figure out which cards work |
| [02:04:00] | hadees: | with ivtv |
| [02:04:00] | hadees: | something to replace my crappy m179s |
| [02:04:00] | Chutt: | that doesn't look anything like a pvr500 |
| [02:04:00] | Chutt: | it's a pvr-150, as the product name says |
| [02:05:00] | Atamido: | A PVR-500 has two of everything. |
| [02:06:00] | hadees: | its got two tuner input |
| [02:06:00] | Atamido: | One is radio, one is video. |
| [02:07:00] | Atamido: | This is my PVR-500 http://commo.de/pvr-500_mce/ |
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| [02:07:00] | hadees: | this is the pvr-500 i was refering too, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116628 |
| [02:07:00] | Atamido: | Compare to my PVR-150. http://commo.de/pvr-150_mce/ |
| [02:07:00] | p1tst0p: | lo, whats the best remote to use with myth/lirc ? |
| [02:08:00] | fatmatt: | anyone using a usb digital tuner? wondering how well they work |
| [02:08:00] | hadees: | p1tst0p, there is no best remote |
| [02:08:00] | p1tst0p: | hadees, prefered then |
| [02:08:00] | Atamido: | fatmatt: I hear bad things about the quality. |
| [02:08:00] | hadees: | p1tst0p, lots of people use the remote that comes with a Hauppauge card |
| [02:09:00] | p1tst0p: | hadees, im in the uk, and considering one of the sky+ navigator ones.. Hmmm, just got myth working with my Dbox, and really need a remote now ;) |
| [02:10:00] | hadees: | p1tst0p, i personally would suggest an rf remote that works with a computer like a Niveus |
| [02:12:00] | hadees: | no need for lirc |
| [02:12:00] | fignuts: | no line of site needed |
| [02:12:00] | fignuts: | sight* |
| [02:14:00] | hadees: | fignuts, that too, i have mine inside my case |
| [02:14:00] | p1tst0p: | does Niveus run on a Pocket PC i see ? |
| [02:14:00] | hadees: | p1tst0p, i think your thinking of net remote |
| [02:15:00] | hadees: | niveus is a real remote |
| [02:15:00] | hadees: | it looks like a usb keyboard to your computer |
| [02:15:00] | hadees: | ati remote is pretty much the same |
| [02:15:00] | hadees: | and there is one other |
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| [02:42:00] | poonj: | hey xris: sorry about that, are you here now? |
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| [02:50:00] | Cody`: | May I get some help setting up video sources? |
| [02:50:00] | Cody`: | I was following the episode of systm that was on setting up a knopmyth box |
| [02:50:00] | Cody`: | but when I go to select listing grabber, the docs say to use datadirect |
| [02:51:00] | Cody`: | but all I have is xmltv and no user/pass |
| [02:51:00] | Cody`: | if I enter my zip code, no data provider is foudn |
| [02:51:00] | Cody`: | found* |
| [02:56:00] | xris: | Cody`: the docs cover how to get a dd login/pass |
| [02:57:00] | Cody`: | that's not hte problem |
| [02:57:00] | Cody`: | the* |
| [02:57:00] | Cody`: | datadirect isn't even an option |
| [02:57:00] | Cody`: | on listings grabber |
| [02:58:00] | Cody`: | just xmltv for north america |
| [02:58:00] | xris: | what version of mythtv? |
| [02:58:00] | Cody`: | hmm |
| [02:58:00] | Cody`: | how do I check |
| [02:58:00] | Cody`: | I'm using whatever comes with the newest knopmyth |
| [02:59:00] | xris: | should be at least .18. tjem |
| [02:59:00] | xris: | then |
| [02:59:00] | p1tst0p: | hi, wher can i find a list of the keboard shortcuts for myth ? |
| [02:59:00] | Cody`: | xris: So any ideas |
| [02:59:00] | fatmatt: | p1tst0p: the documentation on the website maybe? |
| [02:59:00] | Cody`: | xmltv doesn't grab anything for my area |
| [03:01:00] | xris: | Cody`: no. there should be NO xmltv option for north america. |
| [03:01:00] | xris: | just LxM and DD |
| [03:02:00] | Cody`: | hmm |
| [03:02:00] | Cody`: | knopmyth has apt |
| [03:02:00] | Cody`: | so anything I could apt for to fix? |
| [03:02:00] | xris: | apt-get upgrade? |
| [03:02:00] | ** Cody` triest ** | |
| [03:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Cody: Shouldn't need to. |
| [03:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Which zip code? I just did KnoppMyth and I didn't have any problem. |
| [03:03:00] | Cody`: | 41094 |
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| [03:03:00] | Cody`: | using ISO KnoppMythR4V2.iso |
| [03:04:00] | xris: | shouldn't even need to get to that. you choose the zipcode AFTER picking DD. |
| [03:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Cody: That's OLD.. |
| [03:04:00] | ** Cody` just realized ** | |
| [03:05:00] | Cody`: | I was just looking at the mirror |
| [03:05:00] | Cody`: | well shit |
| [03:05:00] | Cody`: | be back tomorrow if I have issues then |
| [03:05:00] | ** Cody` goes off to spend a few hours downloading again ** | |
| [03:05:00] | Krazylegz: | Cool. |
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| [03:06:00] | xris: | heh |
| [03:06:00] | xris: | so much for "latest version" |
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| [03:11:00] | nick125: | hey |
| [03:12:00] | nick125: | is it possible to reencode recorded programs? (i got some shows that i want to go and make smaller...) |
| [03:12:00] | xris: | nick125: nuvexport is your best-quality option |
| [03:13:00] | nick125: | but, i still want them to be playable in mythtv...how would i use that to reduce the quality some? |
| [03:13:00] | rtsai: | xris: any technical reason not to build a quality-centric option to mythtranscode? Or is it just that the libraries included with mythtv don't have good codecs? |
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| [03:14:00] | rtsai: | nick125: if you want to use mythtranscode, there currently isn't a GUI-friendly to do so. |
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| [03:15:00] | xris: | nick125: since when can't mythtv play nuvexport exports? just rename the .avi to .nuv and it works fine |
| [03:15:00] | rtsai: | nick125: if you use nuvexport, you can export your myth recordings to ASF, etc. and put them into MythVideo. |
| [03:15:00] | xris: | rtsai: mainly because isaac doesn't use mythtv that way, and no one else has bothered to write something to do it. |
| [03:15:00] | atomjack: | can somebody help me? trying to compile myth from source, and getting this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lraw1394 |
| [03:15:00] | xris: | atomjack: install the firewire libs, or disable firewire |
| [03:15:00] | nick125: | atomjack: make sure you have the libs for 1394 |
| [03:16:00] | atomjack: | ahhh |
| [03:16:00] | rtsai: | xris: i was actually under the impression that hardly anyone even uses mythtranscode, your nuvexport stuff seems to be the popular choice |
| [03:16:00] | atomjack: | yeah i don't use fireware...umm where do i disable firewire? (bios? myth source?) |
| [03:16:00] | atomjack: | er |
| [03:16:00] | atomjack: | firewire |
| [03:16:00] | xris: | rtsai: that's because mythtranscode is not FOR users to run. it's for mythbackend to run |
| [03:16:00] | rtsai: | xris: yeah, that's what i meant. |
| [03:16:00] | rtsai: | xris: i'm under the impression that no one uses auto-transcode, etc. |
| [03:16:00] | xris: | many people do |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | but with the pvr cards these days, no one really bothers. |
| [03:17:00] | rtsai: | xris: most mailing list traffic seems to be about putting nuvexport into userjobs. |
| [03:17:00] | nick125: | atomjack: in ./configure |
| [03:17:00] | atomjack: | ahhh |
| [03:17:00] | nick125: | ./configure --disable-firewire or something like that |
| [03:17:00] | atomjack: | cool |
| [03:17:00] | rtsai: | xris: right; PVR can encode at capture time. So that leaves digital TV people (or HD people). |
| [03:17:00] | atomjack: | sweet that worked, thanks |
| [03:17:00] | nick125: | no problem |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | yeah. some people do still transcode to mpeg4 to save space when they don't care about quality drops. |
| [03:18:00] | rtsai: | like me, or because my HDTV can only show 480 lines anyway :( |
| [03:18:00] | rtsai: | and becuase I'm too cheap to buy more disk |
| [03:19:00] | xris: | yup |
| [03:19:00] | xris: | would be nice to have some internal converter stuff to xvid, etc., though. |
| [03:19:00] | rtsai: | i basically use auto-mythtranscode as "software encode" for my HD-3000 recordings. |
| [03:19:00] | xris: | but I doubt it'll happen |
| [03:19:00] | rtsai: | but then you lose all the other program information |
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| [03:20:00] | rtsai: | it's kind of neat to have all the channel, plot, airtime, credits, etc. info |
| [03:20:00] | xris: | wish there was something worth recording on broadcast tv. heh |
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| [03:20:00] | xris: | I don't get fox or abc here in HD |
| [03:20:00] | rtsai: | i'm a man of simple tastes. CSI and L&O do it for me. And as long as they keep spinning off more flavors, there's plenty to watch :). |
| [03:20:00] | xris: | stupid airport in the way |
| [03:21:00] | rtsai: | CSI and L&O are CBS and NBC :) |
| [03:21:00] | ** xris would rather have HD foodnetwork and scifi ** | |
| [03:21:00] | ** rtsai is too cheap to get cable TV ** | |
| [03:21:00] | xris: | I have Dish. |
| [03:21:00] | atomjack: | i wish i got scifi in HD :( |
| [03:21:00] | xris: | better than cable, imho |
| [03:23:00] | rtsai: | anyone use mythmusic? My screensaver has started kicking in again (the ugly "X" blanking thing, not the whizzy xscreensaver stuff). |
| [03:24:00] | ** nick125 wishes he could use mythtv more ** | |
| [03:25:00] | nick125: | i would use it more but, when i try to alt-tab, it locks up my machine some times |
| [03:25:00] | poonj: | hey xris |
| [03:25:00] | poonj: | I was wondering how I could find out whats wrong with my nuvexport |
| [03:25:00] | poonj: | do I run nuvexport --debug? |
| [03:25:00] | nick125: | it does it on live tv and recorded tv |
| [03:25:00] | nick125: | ideas? |
| [03:25:00] | poonj: | I'm using debian, and I don't know if I have all of the pakcages installed..... |
| [03:25:00] | poonj: | is everything I need available through debian packages? |
| [03:25:00] | rtsai: | nick125: sorry, can't help you. My MythTV box sits next to the TV and is only for TV. |
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| [03:25:00] | fatmatt: | Thermal 1: active[0], 52.0 degrees C |
| [03:26:00] | fatmatt: | is that too hot? |
| [03:26:00] | nick125: | well, i got a xbox im not using, so, i might turn that into a dedicated mythbox |
| [03:26:00] | rtsai: | for a hard drive, that's pretty hot |
| [03:26:00] | xris: | poonj: https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/wiki/debug |
| [03:26:00] | fatmatt: | nahh, think its the chip, acpi result |
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| [03:26:00] | nick125: | the cpu? thats not too bad |
| [03:26:00] | rtsai: | fatmatt: for a CPU or motherboard, that's probably OK (a bit warm for a motherboard) |
| [03:26:00] | rtsai: | if that's an idle CPU, that's probably a bit warm |
| [03:27:00] | nick125: | i dont know what mine is, and i dont bother to check anymore |
| [03:27:00] | fatmatt: | laptop, 2ghz 478 chip, not even an M series, desktop I thnk |
| [03:27:00] | nick125: | fatmatt: for a laptop, that aint too bad... |
| [03:27:00] | nick125: | laptops have less cooling.. |
| [03:28:00] | fatmatt: | yah, can't seem to get the acpi command to work on the server.. might look into that |
| [03:28:00] | nick125: | hmm...does mythtv have a mode where it will use nvidia glx or something like that? |
| [03:29:00] | xris: | nick125: xvmc |
| [03:29:00] | xris: | I think it has to be compiled in, though |
| [03:29:00] | nick125: | i notice it says SGI Opengl when mythfrontend starts.. |
| [03:30:00] | ** nick125 looks ** | |
| [03:31:00] | ** nick125 sighs ** | |
| [03:31:00] | nick125: | brb |
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| [03:33:00] | xris: | if he comes back, someone tell nick that opengl is NOT the same as xvmc... |
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| [04:03:00] | atomjack: | i've been running myth from rpm's, and i am switching to compiling the source – should i uninstall the rpm's before i install from source? |
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| [04:04:00] | p1tst0p: | when i change the mythfrontend theme, should it change the OSD theme ? |
| [04:07:00] | atomjack: | ahh ok. i just compiled myth but it's complaining that it can't find some shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.so.0 |
| [04:07:00] | atomjack: | shouldn't it be looking for 0.18.1 ? |
| [04:07:00] | atomjack: | (which do exist) |
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| [04:08:00] | p1tst0p: | atomjack, add /usr/local/lib to your /etc/ld.so.conf |
| [04:09:00] | p1tst0p: | and run ldconfig |
| [04:09:00] | atomjack: | ok |
| [04:10:00] | rtsai: | p1tst0p: OSD themes are independent of the mythfrontend theme |
| [04:10:00] | p1tst0p: | rtsai, ahh, ok how does one select an OSD theme |
| [04:10:00] | rtsai: | in the mythfrontend settings somewhere |
| [04:10:00] | rtsai: | on a different page from the page with frontend/menu theme selection |
| [04:10:00] | atomjack: | ok thanks |
| [04:11:00] | rtsai: | p1tst0p: i think it's at TV : Appearance, maybe Playback |
| [04:11:00] | p1tst0p: | your right rtsai, its in Playback ! |
| [04:11:00] | p1tst0p: | cheers ! |
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| [04:12:00] | rtsai: | I like Isthmus OSD |
| [04:12:00] | atomjack: | yeah isthmus is my fave |
| [04:13:00] | p1tst0p: | just gonna try that one now ;) |
| [04:15:00] | rtsai: | titivillus-osd isn't bad either. I'm not quite happy with any of the menu themes, though. |
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| [04:16:00] | p1tst0p: | that was gonna be my next question, what menu themes / front end themes do you prefer ? |
| [04:17:00] | rtsai: | stock frontend themes, I like titivillus. But there is a "Myxer" program floating around that lets you mix-n-match different theme elements. |
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| [04:18:00] | rtsai: | menu themes, i switch between "default" and "DVR". Neither are perfect. I plan to make a "Media Center" menu theme that is centered around the "Media Library" menu option in the Default menu theme |
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| [04:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | I always liked blue from the default ones |
| [04:20:00] | rtsai: | i don't like the left-right navigation |
| [04:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | I prefer that over up down |
| [04:20:00] | rtsai: | heh |
| [04:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's faster to press down+right then down/down/down/down |
| [04:21:00] | rtsai: | pagedown |
| [04:21:00] | rtsai: | or up/up :) |
| [04:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm using a remove with no pageup key :) |
| [04:21:00] | rtsai: | what remote? |
| [04:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | and even if it's just 3 lines down that's still 3 presses versus 2 |
| [04:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use a Niveus RF remote. I could make a PGDN key, but I'm using all of them as it is :) |
| [04:22:00] | rtsai: | yeah. |
| [04:22:00] | rtsai: | it's unfortunate, the 0–9 keys are being wasted as simplenumbers |
| [04:22:00] | rtsai: | I could reassign them, but I'd never remember what they were. |
| [04:23:00] | rtsai: | it would set me with enough keys, though |
| [04:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | rtsai: I put comments in my source for all of the keycodes for each button, so I can change them to anything and backagain easy enough. I just have them all in use at the moment :) |
| [04:24:00] | rtsai: | greyfoxx: yeah, mine are documented, too, but it means i have to lug out the laptop to remember that "1" does. Too much trouble |
| [04:24:00] | rtsai: | s/that/what |
| [04:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | dammit, I gotta calibrate this touch screen. It's too out of alignment heh |
| [04:25:00] | rtsai: | where are you going to use that touch screen? |
| [04:25:00] | rtsai: | it looks too big for a car |
| [04:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | in my home theatre room. It'll be a control panel to control the frontend on the projector |
| [04:26:00] | rtsai: | ah |
| [04:26:00] | rtsai: | a mother of a remote :) |
| [04:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | something like that :) |
| [04:26:00] | rtsai: | so your mythbox is headless? |
| [04:26:00] | rtsai: | (besides tv) |
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| [04:27:00] | bougyman: | argh! |
| [04:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | rtsai: all of them are yes |
| [04:27:00] | bougyman: | anyone know what setting i messed up to get locked into channels 2–124 while using Composite input from Satellite? |
| [04:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | use to have a14" monitor on an old frontend in the bedroom but that has been replaced with a mediamvp |
| [04:27:00] | rtsai: | i used to lug a 15" CRT for "emergencies" (boot problems), but I recently gave it away and am wondering what to do next time I need it. |
| [04:27:00] | bougyman: | the program guide is right, but when i use chanup/chandown or try to get to a channel over 124 it just stays on the channel it's on. |
| [04:28:00] | bougyman: | problem is all over the mailing list from 2002 but marked as 'fixed' now. |
| [04:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have a couple spare monitors for servers in my basement for that sort of thin |
| [04:28:00] | rtsai: | GreyFoxx: I had thought your touchscreen was actually an LCd ripped out of a laptop or something, == perfect transportable display for misbehaving linux boxes |
| [04:28:00] | bougyman: | not 'fixed' on my setup, i'm thinking it's a config i've missed. |
| [04:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | rtsai: It's from a pair of old kiosks I had setup for a company years ago. They eventually decided not to use them anymore and were literally throwing them in the garbage ($1000 custom made metal shell and all) when I happened by their office one day |
| [04:29:00] | rtsai: | GreyFoxx: I think there's some kind of way to configure the serial port to output console information or something (connect a serial cable between laptop and mythbox, next best solution), but I haven't research that yet. |
| [04:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | they said I could have them if I wanted them so I took them |
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| [04:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just took the lcd out of one of them, the pc's are still in them :) |
| [04:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | rtsai: Yeah, that's easy enough |
| [04:30:00] | rtsai: | GreyFoxx: same with my 15" monitor (workplace giveaway). But I live in a small apartment and it wasn't worth the space anymore. |
| [04:30:00] | SoDaddy: | I'm working on a script to archive and remove tv shows via an user job. What table do I need to do the delete on to remove it from the show listings? |
| [04:30:00] | rtsai: | but will serial port let me mess with BIOS screen also? I think I need at least Linux for the serial port to be active. |
| [04:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | I saw the kioks next to the garbage and ran right in |
| [04:30:00] | rtsai: | heh |
| [04:30:00] | rtsai: | SoDaddy: what's wrong with auto-expire? |
| [04:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | rtsai: of fcourse not, the OS isn't up at that time :) |
| [04:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | there are a couple hardware solutions for that if you want it on a pc |
| [04:31:00] | rtsai: | GreyFoxx: cheap? |
| [04:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | but they are really not worth the $$$ and barely work |
| [04:31:00] | SoDaddy: | rtsai: I'm cataloging a miniseries, want to save it all off then watch it in one weekend |
| [04:31:00] | SoDaddy: | rtsai: tv show drive is getting full, need to move it off to another drive |
| [04:32:00] | rtsai: | SoDaddy: simple thing is to do a database backup, delete a show, take another sql dump, and 'diff". |
| [04:32:00] | rtsai: | <GreyFoxx> I just took the lcd out of one of them, the pc's are still in |
| [04:32:00] | rtsai: | them :) |
| [04:32:00] | SoDaddy: | rtsai: that's the long way, someone has to know the right table....the names aren't necessarily enough to go on |
| [04:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or just enable mysql logging (if it's not already) and delete a show and see what SQL queries were run |
| [04:33:00] | rtsai: | GreyFoxx: so yoru touchscreen thing *is* an old LCD screen?!? |
| [04:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | rtsai: pretty much all touch screens are |
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| [04:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | They are just an overlay ontop of the screen |
| [04:33:00] | rtsai: | but where is the PC? Is that hidden behind it or something? |
| [04:33:00] | rtsai: | or is that one of the cables? |
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| [04:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | rtsai: What do you mean? In the photos, or in a kiosk? |
| [04:34:00] | ** rtsai thinks he's been thinking a monitor was actually a tablet. ** | |
| [04:34:00] | rtsai: | GreyFoxx: in the photos |
| [04:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh, no, this is not a tablet pc. It's a real touch screen monitor :) |
| [04:34:00] | rtsai: | ah ah ah |
| [04:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | vga in, serial out :) |
| [04:34:00] | rtsai: | so the cable is connectd to some big bulky thing somewhere else :) |
| [04:35:00] | ** rtsai is slightly less impressed than before, but still impressed :) ** | |
| [04:35:00] | fweeee: | Can anyone help me with a problem here? For one particular channel, if I go straight into it, it works fine. But if I change channel, then change back, the sound is gone!! |
| [04:35:00] | atomjack: | ok, another error compiling: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt |
| [04:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | rtsai: It's connected to the VGA out of the frontend if that';s what you mean :) |
| [04:35:00] | rtsai: | SoDaddy: can't allthat be hidden by your script? |
| [04:35:00] | rtsai: | GreyFoxx: yeah, that is what I mean. |
| [04:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | the project is on the DVI port, the touchscreen on VGA and I twinview it. The VGA resolution is set higher than the projector allowing me to have that side/bottom space for the controls |
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| [04:36:00] | rtsai: | GreyFoxx: yeah, i understand now :). |
| [04:37:00] | rtsai: | atomjack: you need libqt3-mt-dev |
| [04:37:00] | atomjack: | ok thanks |
| [04:40:00] | bougyman: | argh |
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| [04:40:00] | atomjack: | rtsai:i'm running FC3, and have qt-devel installed, and from what i read libqt3-mt-dev is for debian? |
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| [04:40:00] | bougyman: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . annel;#74093 anyone have an actual answer to that? External Dish Receiver to BTTV Composite input, the OSD will not recognize channels above 124 even though they're in the program guide/mythconverg db. |
| [04:42:00] | rtsai: | atomjack: yeah, libqt3-mt-dev is the packagename on my debian/ubuntu system. I don't know the FC3 name. |
| [04:42:00] | hadees: | anyone here have a niveus rf remote |
| [04:42:00] | atomjack: | argh :( |
| [04:42:00] | rtsai: | atomjack: can't you use rpmfind to figure out what you need? |
| [04:42:00] | atomjack: | well i just searched for libqt3-mt-dev on rpmfind and it didnt find anything.. |
| [04:43:00] | rtsai: | atomjack: well, first check that qt-devel doesn't have some libqt-mt.so |
| [04:43:00] | rtsai: | (or that your system doens't already have some libqt-mt.so) |
| [04:43:00] | atomjack: | ifound some of those files |
| [04:43:00] | rtsai: | -lqt-mt is complaining about finding "libqt-mt.so" somewhere. |
| [04:43:00] | atomjack: | /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.4 |
| [04:43:00] | atomjack: | and .3 and .3.3 |
| [04:44:00] | rtsai: | there should be a "libqt-mt.so" symolinked to something |
| [04:44:00] | atomjack: | oh hmm |
| [04:44:00] | atomjack: | i do have a libqt-mt.so but it's not in ana ctual lib directory.. |
| [04:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | bougyman: I don't think I ever ran into thatwhen I had a external receiver hooked up. Cept I wasn't using a bttv card (which should be irrelevant in this case) |
| [04:44:00] | rtsai: | atomjack:and -L/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib should be in the link line somewhere |
| [04:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | but that was a while ago |
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| [04:44:00] | atomjack: | oh so it's not finding it. ok i'll copy it there |
| [04:44:00] | rtsai: | ./configure should have figured out where it lives |
| [04:45:00] | atomjack: | oh wiat |
| [04:45:00] | hadees: | hmm is there something in linux that prevents rapid button presses? |
| [04:45:00] | atomjack: | yeah it is there, it's a symbolic link to libqt-mt.so.3.3.4 |
| [04:45:00] | rtsai: | hadees: there is X autorepeat |
| [04:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | hadees: well you can configure the key repeat rate if that's what you mean |
| [04:45:00] | hadees: | nah that not whats happening |
| [04:45:00] | hadees: | its strang my niveus rf remote |
| [04:46:00] | atomjack: | what's weird is i just compiled it on my backend server and it didnt give me this error. i'm doing the frontend now.. |
| [04:46:00] | hadees: | is stoping to work after a long key press like holding down the down arrow |
| [04:46:00] | bougyman: | GreyFoxx: i'm about to just add them to frequencies.c. |
| [04:46:00] | bougyman: | don't see any other solution on the horizon. |
| [04:46:00] | rtsai: | atomjack: well, if your backend and frontend have different stuff installed on them, then it's not completely surprising |
| [04:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Considering you are not using myth to change the channels I don't see that as the obvious cause |
| [04:46:00] | hadees: | it works again after a little while |
| [04:47:00] | atomjack: | hm what other files could be missing? cause /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so exists |
| [04:47:00] | hadees: | i don't get whats going on |
| [04:47:00] | bougyman: | GreyFoxx: myth won't even recognize them. |
| [04:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | hadees: What driver are you using for it ? |
| [04:47:00] | hadees: | the modified ati_remote |
| [04:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is code in there that limits the repeats and how often. you might need to adjust it |
| [04:47:00] | rtsai: | atomjack: if it builds on the backend, then do a "dpkg -l" (or rpm -l or whatever) to see what packages are different between thet wo machines |
| [04:47:00] | atomjack: | ok |
| [04:48:00] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, ah |
| [04:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | bougyman: If it's showing them in the OSD / EPG then obviously it "recognizes them". You should just start tracing through the code that handles the channel changes and see what logic it uses to decide if a change is valid or not |
| [04:48:00] | bougyman: | it only shows them in the program guide and listings |
| [04:49:00] | fweeee: | Weird problem – I have one channel, channel 7. They broadcast the same programs on 3 different digital channels. If I set all these up as channels in mythtv (5,6,7), I can switch between these channels fine – as soon as I go to *another* channel, and switch back to one of them (5,6,7), the sound goes. |
| [04:49:00] | bougyman: | that's what led me to frequencies.c |
| [04:49:00] | bougyman: | it's the only file that has the exact limit i'm running into |
| [04:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | you have the code, you should be able to find the exact line that decides whether or not to change to a channel :) |
| [04:50:00] | atomjack: | what's a quick command to sort the lines of a text file alphabetically? |
| [04:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | atom "sort" |
| [04:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | sort filename.txt |
| [04:50:00] | atomjack: | lol |
| [04:50:00] | atomjack: | makes sense:) |
| [04:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | or sort -r filename.txt |
| [04:51:00] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, do you know what it is called? |
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| [04:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | hadees: It's all in the "if ((jiffies – ati_remote->old_jiffies) > (HZ >> 2)) {" area |
| [04:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | plus a define at the top for HZ |
| [04:54:00] | bougyman: | GreyFoxx: cept i'm not versed in C. |
| [04:54:00] | bougyman: | i do ocaml and ruby for the most part. |
| [04:54:00] | bougyman: | though this is pretty straightforward. |
| [04:54:00] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, what do i change? i don't see anything that looks like a limit |
| [04:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | hadees: actually sorry it's just about that area , a repeat counter |
| [04:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | about = above |
| [04:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | You need to look at the FILTER_TIME and repeat max in the if that checks for it |
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| [04:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | bougyman: Try turning up the verbose level on the backend and frontend, try your channel change and then check the output |
| [04:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | there might very well be a message |
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| [05:00:00] | atomjack: | rtsai:i did an apt-get dist-upgrade to update all my stuff on the frontend and now it's compiling again..thanks |
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| [05:07:00] | rabies: | hi |
| [05:07:00] | rabies: | im having some issues recording in mythtv |
| [05:07:00] | rabies: | i keep on getting an invalid file handle error |
| [05:08:00] | bougyman: | GreyFoxx: will do |
| [05:08:00] | bougyman: | recompiling with the new frequencies.c now. |
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| [05:09:00] | bougyman: | it worked for channel 352, i added the rest of the 300s to it to see how it goes. |
| [05:09:00] | bougyman: | the 300s are all the movie channels here. |
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| [05:09:00] | rabies: | so when i record it doesnt write anything to a file and messes up my comp completely |
| [05:09:00] | rabies: | its really annoying |
| [05:09:00] | bougyman: | the ubuntu package was set to compile against pentium4/i486, yuck. |
| [05:09:00] | rabies: | it worked at first, but no more |
| [05:10:00] | rabies: | im unlucky |
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| [05:10:00] | fweeee: | Anyone know what the message "Couldn't allocate warped audio buffer" means? I'm getting it when I change to one channel – but only when changing to it. If I start in it, its fine. |
| [05:10:00] | fweeee: | the mythtv mailing list archive has nothing on it :( |
| [05:10:00] | slePP: | does anyone have an asus terminator c3? |
| [05:16:00] | rabies: | hello |
| [05:16:00] | rabies: | ? |
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| [05:31:00] | atomjack: | ok, again, trying to compile myth, and it's saying ALSA support is not enabled, but --enable-alsa doesn't change that |
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| [05:40:00] | theturtle: | i know this isn't mythtv's problem, but anyone know where i might get mythtv binaries installed on suse 9.3? |
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| [05:46:00] | opopanax_gentoo: | hi all. i have a problem. i set myth to use a theme that doesn't include, for some reason, a setup icon...so now i can't change the theme back to what it was before. |
| [05:48:00] | atomjack: | how can i compile myth to use alsa? no matter what i use in the configure command line it keeps saying support no |
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| [05:52:00] | opopanax_gentoo: | ok. removed the offending theme, and copied a semi-working theme to the old name. works now. |
| [05:55:00] | atomjack: | gah, how can i compile alsa support into myth?? i know alsa is working fine on my system, the myth i've been using was installed via rpm's and used alsa... |
| [05:56:00] | theturtle: | atomjack – do ./configure --help | grep alsa |
| [05:56:00] | theturtle: | for mythtv |
| [05:56:00] | theturtle: | see if u can see anything related to alsa |
| [05:56:00] | atomjack: | all it says is the option to disable alsa support |
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| [05:57:00] | atomjack: | ./configure --help | grep -i alsa |
| [05:57:00] | atomjack: | --disable-audio-alsa disable ALSA audio support |
| [05:58:00] | theturtle: | do you get sound with mythmusic? |
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| [05:59:00] | atomjack: | mythmusic doesn't appear to be installed |
| [06:00:00] | atomjack: | i've been using myth installed via apt following jarod's fedora instructions, and only today i've compiled it from source.. |
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| [06:00:00] | atomjack: | sound in mythmusic/mythvideo/mythtv was working fine previous to compiling it myself.. |
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| [06:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, you around? |
| [06:08:00] | Quiote: | with a nvidia card, how can i get the tv to show up just on my television and not my crt too? |
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| [06:17:00] | fweeee: | OK then – this is very very weird – I have 7 channels tuned in. 3 of these seem to have a bug, where as if I start off in them, they are fine. if I change from one of these 3 to another of these 3, they are fine. But if I change from one of the other 4 to one of the buggy 3, the sound goes (just for those 3 channels) |
| [06:17:00] | fweeee: | Weird weird weird weird!! |
| [06:17:00] | fweeee: | None of them are HD or anything. |
| [06:17:00] | fweeee: | Just normal dvb-t. |
| [06:18:00] | Quiote: | Fatal server error: |
| [06:18:00] | Quiote: | Caught signal 11. Server aborting |
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| [06:18:00] | Quiote: | i get that error |
| [06:18:00] | Quiote: | anyone using nvidia drivers? |
| [06:18:00] | fweeee: | Quiote: Yeah. With fC4 – a 6200 |
| [06:19:00] | fweeee: | Damn. I'll just live with this bug for now I think. |
| [06:19:00] | Quiote: | fweeee: fC4? |
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| [06:19:00] | fweeee: | Quiote: Fedora Core 4 – the red hat thingy |
| [06:19:00] | Quiote: | what nvidia driver you using |
| [06:20:00] | fweeee: | The very latest one – would have installed it a week or so back. |
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| [06:20:00] | Quiote: | hmm mine dont work |
| [06:20:00] | Quiote: | Fatal server error: |
| [06:20:00] | Quiote: | Caught signal 11. Server aborting |
| [06:20:00] | raju: | Anyone using Myth on Ubuntu? |
| [06:20:00] | Quiote: | i get that error when i startx |
| [06:20:00] | fweeee: | The i386 I think. |
| [06:20:00] | fweeee: | Quiote: I got mine from the nvidia site. |
| [06:20:00] | Quiote: | me too |
| [06:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | who here knows about the mythbrowser I want to ask about some limitations |
| [06:20:00] | fweeee: | There are a number of drivers there for linux – you sure you got the right one? |
| [06:21:00] | fweeee: | Quiote: Did you edit the x.org file? (or whatever it is your supposed to edit) |
| [06:21:00] | raju: | I'm trying to get Lirc running on Ubuntu |
| [06:21:00] | Quiote: | fweeee: yes |
| [06:21:00] | raju: | Can anyone help me out? |
| [06:21:00] | fweeee: | raju: I've given up on lirc sorry – going to use the ATI wonder remote. |
| [06:21:00] | raju: | i had it workin (quite easily) with fedora when installing myth |
| [06:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, HELP!!! :P |
| [06:22:00] | raju: | but ubuntu's giving me problems |
| [06:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I know your around |
| [06:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, yeah you may have blown up your box but you are around! |
| [06:23:00] | raju: | Well, maybe someone can help me with this |
| [06:23:00] | raju: | I have the modules made for lirc_i2c but when i do modprobe, it doesn't work |
| [06:23:00] | raju: | says module not found |
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| [06:23:00] | Cardoe: | anyone awake? |
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| [06:24:00] | Quiote: | when i install the nvidia driver it says No precompiled kernel interface was found to maatch your kernel: would you like the installer to attempt to download a kernel from the NVIDIA ftp site. So i choose yes and it says No matching precompiled kernel interface was found ont he NVIDIA ftp site: this means that the installer will need to compile a kernel interface for your kernel. And i choose ok then i goes through and does that and |
| [06:24:00] | Quiote: | the drivers |
| [06:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey Cardoe |
| [06:26:00] | Cardoe: | http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/pegasos/dscf0804.jpg |
| [06:26:00] | Cardoe: | hey SlicerDicer- |
| [06:26:00] | Cardoe: | how's it going |
| [06:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | good |
| [06:26:00] | Cardoe: | you know if that's a PVR-150 or a PVR-500? |
| [06:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | will look |
| [06:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 150? |
| [06:26:00] | Cardoe: | k |
| [06:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or 250 maybe hang on |
| [06:26:00] | Cardoe: | low profile? |
| [06:26:00] | Cardoe: | it's shouldn't be a 250 |
| [06:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.bttv-gallery.de/DSCN3281.JPG-haupp . . . 2-b158_a.jpg |
| [06:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | same card its a 150 |
| [06:27:00] | Cardoe: | that's what I thought |
| [06:27:00] | Cardoe: | low profile |
| [06:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | google images rocks :) |
| [06:28:00] | Cardoe: | heh yup |
| [06:28:00] | Cardoe: | thx |
| [06:28:00] | Cardoe: | They ran out of PVR-500s |
| [06:28:00] | Cardoe: | :( |
| [06:28:00] | Cardoe: | But I got it free |
| [06:28:00] | Cardoe: | can't complain |
| [06:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no you cant :) |
| [06:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey Cardoe question for ya if you have a moment |
| [06:28:00] | Cardoe: | I assume one side is for radio then |
| [06:28:00] | Cardoe: | sure |
| [06:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | do you know if I would be able to specifiy mozilla as the mythtv browser |
| [06:29:00] | Cardoe: | for mythbrowser? |
| [06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
| [06:29:00] | Cardoe: | The code looks pretty locked up to Konq |
| [06:29:00] | Cardoe: | cause of the QT bindings |
| [06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then use mplayerplug-in and watch streams cause Ia m a subscriber to afl.com.au and it would be nice to watch it on tv |
| [06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmmm |
| [06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | can I use mplayerplug-in with konqueror? |
| [06:30:00] | Cardoe: | lemme peek |
| [06:30:00] | Cardoe: | nope |
| [06:30:00] | Cardoe: | there's gotta be something for Konq |
| [06:30:00] | Cardoe: | whats KDE's video player? |
| [06:31:00] | Cardoe: | it's got to provide some kind of plugin |
| [06:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hell if I know |
| [06:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [06:31:00] | Cardoe: | yeah I hate KDE and QT |
| [06:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont use that kinda crap |
| [06:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I use kde cause I like it |
| [06:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but I dont use that crap that is extra |
| [06:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cause in mythbrowser if you go to settings |
| [06:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it says this |
| [06:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | /usr/bin/mythbrowser |
| [06:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | for the browser |
| [06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats why I was wondering if I could put mozilla there |
| [06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and make it use mozilla |
| [06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and then mplayerplug-in would be a no brainer |
| [06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then all I need is a craptastic mouse and I am good to go |
| [06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | set a bookmark :) |
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| [06:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I guess it cant hurt to try I was just trying to get feedback before I started removing default things that may blow myth apart |
| [06:34:00] | Cardoe: | try it |
| [06:34:00] | Cardoe: | I'd be very much curious if it worked. |
| [06:35:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: http://www.cardoe.com/archives/2005/08/06/a-b . . . -at-my-door/ |
| [06:35:00] | Cardoe: | Free hardware |
| [06:35:00] | Cardoe: | :) |
| [06:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it appeared at your door? |
| [06:36:00] | Cardoe: | they e-mailed me about it first |
| [06:36:00] | Fosten: | does anybody know how to get sound working for the pvr-500? i have tried reloading the msp3400 module several times after compiling ivtv, but no luck |
| [06:36:00] | fatmatt: | SlicerDicer-: you can specify a video player and a command to open the player with mythvideo, is it possible to open a remote file? |
| [06:37:00] | Cardoe: | fatmatt: good idea. |
| [06:37:00] | Krazylegz: | What kind of remote file? |
| [06:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well fatmatt I have to authenticate myself with afl.com.au |
| [06:37:00] | Cardoe: | Fosten: making sure to delete the old msp3400 module? |
| [06:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so I was planning on just using a browser inside myth without having to exit |
| [06:37:00] | fatmatt: | I'd assume it wouldn't matter what type, as long as mplayer could play it |
| [06:39:00] | fatmatt: | has anyone experimented with putting a non-video playing program as the mythvideo player, maybe put firefox in there? |
| [06:39:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, hihi, what's up? |
| [06:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, I am trying to get mplayerplug-in working inside myth |
| [06:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I want to have the ability to stream videos |
| [06:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am about to go break my system wish me luck haha |
| [06:39:00] | fatmatt: | its the only thing in myth I've seen that lets you choose which external program you use (apart from mythdvd) |
| [06:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that is if nothing is planned for recording today |
| [06:39:00] | kormoc: | ooh... you like making me think, don'tcha? :P |
| [06:39:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: what format are the videos in? |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, check what I typed before |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, umm.... wmv |
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| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its shit yeah I know |
| [06:40:00] | Cardoe: | does mplayer offer some authentication scheme for HTTP streaming? |
| [06:40:00] | fatmatt: | SlicerDicer-: whats the video quality like on afl.com? |
| [06:40:00] | Cardoe: | It'd make sense to do that. |
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| [06:40:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: hey |
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| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | fatmatt, not bad really |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I can run fullscreen at 1280x1024 and its pretty good |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | fatmatt, haha your on bigpond |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | should have figured |
| [06:41:00] | fatmatt: | what do they charge? lastI looked it was about the same as paytv |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I been subcribed for 3 years |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 56$AUD a year |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I think |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and you get a telstra email address!!!! |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [06:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah yeah yeah! what a bonus :P |
| [06:42:00] | fatmatt: | SlicerDicer-: this isn;t my usual net connection, I've got optus cable at home |
| [06:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but no I got tons of videos at my fingertips |
| [06:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | match replays at anytime I want, commentary and all that |
| [06:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | news desk stuff its awesome |
| [06:42:00] | fatmatt: | do they have all the games? |
| [06:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 1000's of videos total I would not doubt |
| [06:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sure |
| [06:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | all the way back to the 1993 premiership |
| [06:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anytime you want to watch them you can |
| [06:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | also the wizard cups are there |
| [06:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | back to 2002 |
| [06:43:00] | fatmatt: | sweet, I can;t watch richmond lose often enough :( |
| [06:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [06:43:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, hihi |
| [06:44:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [06:44:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: what's going on? |
| [06:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | fatmatt, I never thought I would have somebody ask me how afl was |
| [06:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | fatmatt, I am in USA so I am pretty much forced to watch it online |
| [06:44:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, not much, just working on dinner a lil, what's up with you? |
| [06:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so thats why I subscribed :) |
| [06:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 59.95$AUD a year fatmatt hell of alot cheaper than getting fox footy |
| [06:45:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: closing your bug reports as invalid |
| [06:45:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [06:45:00] | fatmatt: | they don't show a lot of the games for richmond on TV, probably because they aren't doing so well |
| [06:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [06:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | let me look and see whats on afl.com.au |
| [06:45:00] | fatmatt: | do they have live games? |
| [06:45:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: just kidding |
| [06:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | fatmatt, do you have a bigpond account? |
| [06:45:00] | fatmatt: | no |
| [06:45:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: sorry about the other day... it's been a LONG week |
| [06:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it says bigpond on your hostname |
| [06:46:00] | fatmatt: | ahh, hold on, I *might have access to one |
| [06:46:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: I've been moving. Internet connection is spotty at best |
| [06:46:00] | fatmatt: | SlicerDicer-: its not mine, I'm piggybacking off works crappy dial up |
| [06:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what team is richmond I cant remember |
| [06:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [06:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | they are yeah... |
| [06:46:00] | fatmatt: | tigers |
| [06:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | you said it not me |
| [06:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 18 richmond games |
| [06:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 2005 premiership that is |
| [06:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if you have a bigpond accoutn you should be able to watch them |
| [06:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I think |
| [06:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | wtf?!?!?! just hit me dialup at work!??!!? |
| [06:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that is unacceptable! :P |
| [06:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I would fling the 56k modem at the desk and walk out ;) |
| [06:49:00] | fatmatt: | I'm in a somewhat remote location, its not even 56k |
| [06:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh well then I understand that |
| [06:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | they need to start expanding the cable again and axe ADSL |
| [06:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its a losing war with how much space has to be covered |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | fatmatt, you have a dialup login name and password right? |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | try plugging that into afl.com.au and see if it takes it |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | IIRC it should |
| [06:51:00] | fweeee: | SlicerDicer-: you talking about bigpond? You think they should abandon adsl? |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yes |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cable goes much longer distances and at one point they were doing cable service |
| [06:51:00] | fweeee: | Why so? Cause other people are doing it so much better? |
| [06:52:00] | fatmatt: | looks like it's "exclusive" to bigpond, except for international subscribers |
| [06:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no beacuse the damn central office has to be so close to the house it makes it not cost effective given how far spaces are in australia |
| [06:52:00] | fweeee: | Yeah – but adsl is damn profitable in the cities though :) |
| [06:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well sure |
| [06:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but for the areas like where fatmatt is they should not even consider ADSL |
| [06:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | they should use cable |
| [06:53:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, tis okay :) |
| [06:53:00] | fatmatt: | ha, I'd like to see that |
| [06:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I mean cities are fine for ADSL and I would never argue that but yeash... get some service out to the bush |
| [06:53:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, there has to be a good solution to the problem |
| [06:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | fatmatt, well I doubt it will happen but one can hope |
| [06:54:00] | fweeee: | The bush? Since when does telstra have an obligation to provide adequate services to regional Australia? |
| [06:54:00] | fweeee: | Oh, hang on, isnt it in their charter or something? |
| [06:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | since john howard promised it 2 years ago before the sale of australia |
| [06:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dont you remember that? |
| [06:55:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: clean the garbage code of MythTV? |
| [06:55:00] | fweeee: | Yes, I know. I also know how the yank in charge is trying to weasel out of that now. |
| [06:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or was that a way for him to make the people of australia think that service would be out there soon so telstra could be sold and its a false promise? |
| [06:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well hey I dont know all but I know a fair amount about whats going on :) |
| [06:56:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, heh |
| [06:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well telstra not australia lol |
| [06:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | braindamage sets in |
| [06:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the "yank" was just trying to get optus and primus to share the expense of getting broadband to the bush not weasel out of it :) |
| [06:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | primus and optus dont want to do it cause its not profitable even though it is the decent and proper thing to do they only want profit |
| [07:00:00] | Chutt: | cardoe, exactly what 'garbage code' is the reason for you setting HOME to /var/log/mythtv? |
| [07:01:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: the basic fact that you don't understand Object Oriented Programming |
| [07:01:00] | Chutt: | i don't? |
| [07:01:00] | Chutt: | pray tell |
| [07:01:00] | Cardoe: | nope. |
| [07:01:00] | Cardoe: | I have |
| [07:01:00] | Chutt: | no, you haven't |
| [07:01:00] | Cardoe: | abstraction and inheritence |
| [07:01:00] | Cardoe: | completely violated |
| [07:01:00] | Chutt: | how so? |
| [07:01:00] | Cardoe: | you don't stick you database specific SQL code directly in classes that don't need it |
| [07:01:00] | Cardoe: | you abstract it properly |
| [07:01:00] | Cardoe: | Pick up any OOP book |
| [07:01:00] | Chutt: | i don't? |
| [07:02:00] | Cardoe: | read it |
| [07:02:00] | Cardoe: | learn |
| [07:02:00] | Cardoe: | no |
| [07:02:00] | Cardoe: | you stick the SQL directly everywhere |
| [07:02:00] | Chutt: | what's database specific about the queries? |
| [07:02:00] | Cardoe: | heck within the same class there's CHUNKS of code thats identical SQL |
| [07:02:00] | Cardoe: | that's 1 example. |
| [07:02:00] | Cardoe: | get a book |
| [07:02:00] | Cardoe: | learn |
| [07:02:00] | Chutt: | ok, so, what's the reasoning behind $HOME set to /var/log? |
| [07:03:00] | Cardoe: | because the same hard drive filling up bug I've been bitching about since 0.12 |
| [07:03:00] | Chutt: | we'll ignore the fact that virtually all the database code is non-database specific, with the exception of the initialization code |
| [07:03:00] | Cardoe: | no |
| [07:03:00] | Cardoe: | you do not stick the database code right in classes that it doesn't belong in |
| [07:03:00] | Cardoe: | learn some OOP |
| [07:03:00] | Chutt: | that's not oop |
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| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | You're using C++ |
| [07:04:00] | Chutt: | so? |
| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | because you wanted a OO language |
| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | so use it |
| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | stop trying to write Pascal style code |
| [07:04:00] | Chutt: | what files are the backend writing to $ |
| [07:04:00] | Chutt: | $HOME? |
| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | It's the same issue |
| [07:04:00] | Chutt: | no, it's not |
| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | the log file files up the partition |
| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | when this happens |
| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | it continually tries to write to it |
| [07:04:00] | Chutt: | the log file path is specified on the command line |
| [07:04:00] | Chutt: | it doesn't use $HOME |
| [07:05:00] | Cardoe: | locks up completely |
| [07:05:00] | Cardoe: | oddly enough |
| [07:05:00] | Cardoe: | if $HOME & log are in the same placde |
| [07:05:00] | Cardoe: | it doesn't lock the box |
| [07:05:00] | Cardoe: | just crashes MythBackend |
| [07:05:00] | Cardoe: | which I'm content with |
| [07:05:00] | Chutt: | never seen that happen |
| [07:05:00] | Cardoe: | Well I have |
| [07:05:00] | Cardoe: | and I've said it before. |
| [07:05:00] | Cardoe: | as have other users |
| [07:06:00] | Cardoe: | and there's stuff on the mailing lists. |
| [07:06:00] | Chutt: | not in my recollection |
| [07:06:00] | Cardoe: | where you yelled at me for using Gentoo and not using Debian |
| [07:06:00] | Cardoe: | and the user said he had the same issue |
| [07:06:00] | Cardoe: | and you told us to use CVS |
| [07:06:00] | Cardoe: | So I switched to CVS and said now what |
| [07:06:00] | Cardoe: | you said it's fixed you updated some code |
| [07:06:00] | Cardoe: | I continued to run CVS |
| [07:06:00] | Cardoe: | and issue still stuck around |
| [07:06:00] | Cardoe: | it in fact has gotten worse. |
| [07:06:00] | Chutt: | so.... try to help debug it? |
| [07:07:00] | Chutt: | instead of bitching? |
| [07:07:00] | Cardoe: | You started this. |
| [07:07:00] | Cardoe: | Not I. |
| [07:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey Cardoe I will let you know the results of my giant experiment with modifying those files |
| [07:07:00] | Chutt: | maybe you'd like to submit the gentoo patches back? |
| [07:07:00] | Chutt: | once in a while? |
| [07:07:00] | Cardoe: | what patches? |
| [07:07:00] | Chutt: | for configure |
| [07:07:00] | Cardoe: | the ones that have been offered over a month ago? |
| [07:07:00] | Chutt: | offered? |
| [07:07:00] | Chutt: | never |
| [07:07:00] | Cardoe: | they sure have |
| [07:07:00] | Chutt: | no, they haven't |
| [07:07:00] | Cardoe: | whatever |
| [07:08:00] | Cardoe: | and you're free to pluck them from CVS |
| [07:08:00] | Chutt: | yeah, i'll just check your cvs tree every now and then to see what you've done |
| [07:08:00] | jmblack: | well, attaching them to a trac ticket would be offering ;) |
| [07:08:00] | Chutt: | or sending them to the mailing list |
| [07:08:00] | Cardoe: | jmblack: this was well before the switch to SVN & trac. |
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| [07:08:00] | Chutt: | the mailing list is perfectly acceptable way of submitting patches |
| [07:08:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: considering we discussed the 1 small patch and you know it's in our CVS |
| [07:09:00] | Cardoe: | It's not asking you to go refresh our CVS every so often |
| [07:09:00] | jmblack: | forgive my ignorance 'our CVS'? |
| [07:09:00] | Chutt: | jmblack, gentoo's portage tree |
| [07:09:00] | Chutt: | there's an updated patch in their bugzilla, too |
| [07:09:00] | Chutt: | which another user let me know about the other day |
| [07:09:00] | Cardoe: | I don't even know about it |
| [07:10:00] | Cardoe: | I've been away for a few weeks. |
| [07:10:00] | Cardoe: | nor do I have a MythTV box. |
| [07:10:00] | Chutt: | the bug's assigned to you, and you've updated bugs since then |
| [07:10:00] | Cardoe: | so I don't have any testing abilities. |
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| [07:10:00] | Chutt: | notably, closing out kormac's issue for absolutely no reason |
| [07:10:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: You just said you can't be bothered with checking Gentoo's Bugzilla and CVs |
| [07:11:00] | Cardoe: | seems like you've kept up on it more then I have. |
| [07:11:00] | Chutt: | i checked because kormac asked why someone would do something like set $home to /var/log in here |
| [07:12:00] | Chutt: | after you marked the bug as invalid, of course |
| [07:12:00] | Cardoe: | of course |
| [07:13:00] | Chutt: | so, anyway, i really like how i'm completely unaware of OO principals because i've not written an unnecessary database abstraction layer |
| [07:13:00] | Chutt: | that's good fun |
| [07:15:00] | Chutt: | better go talk to trolltech about their db code, too |
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| [07:15:00] | Chutt: | since their business is c++ and oo code |
| [07:15:00] | Chutt: | guess they're doing something wrong |
| [07:15:00] | Cardoe: | ever hear of Paige Jones? |
| [07:15:00] | Cardoe: | You know... the guys that just won the award for programming |
| [07:15:00] | Cardoe: | and design |
| [07:15:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [07:15:00] | Cardoe: | go read their book |
| [07:16:00] | Cardoe: | stop writing Pascal wanna-be code. |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | why would i do that? |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | how's it pascal wanna-be code? |
| [07:16:00] | Cardoe: | You know... maybe to educate yourself. |
| [07:16:00] | Cardoe: | You're writing procedural code. |
| [07:16:00] | Cardoe: | read your methods |
| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | how so? |
| [07:16:00] | Cardoe: | they're completely procedural. |
| [07:16:00] | Cardoe: | just look at the flow strucutre. |
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| [07:16:00] | Chutt: | what? |
| [07:16:00] | Cardoe: | Object Oriented programming is all about messages and passing them |
| [07:17:00] | Cardoe: | Design Patterns? |
| [07:17:00] | Chutt: | and... |
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| [07:17:00] | Chutt: | ? |
| [07:17:00] | Cardoe: | http://www.dofactory.com/Patterns/Patterns.aspx |
| [07:17:00] | Cardoe: | look at them |
| [07:17:00] | Cardoe: | Code reusablility. |
| [07:17:00] | Chutt: | you do know that the only people that talk about design patterns are college professors, right? |
| [07:18:00] | Cardoe: | and a couple of smart programmers I know. |
| [07:18:00] | Cardoe: | But hey |
| [07:18:00] | Cardoe: | that's the difference between a great programmer and a "good" programmer. |
| [07:18:00] | Chutt: | but, i guess you can't point out anything concrete in the myth source |
| [07:18:00] | Chutt: | if all you can say is 'read a book' |
| [07:18:00] | Cardoe: | I'll grab the first file |
| [07:18:00] | Cardoe: | where good ol' main() resides. |
| [07:19:00] | Chutt: | which doesn't have any objects in it, strangely =) |
| [07:19:00] | Chutt: | and which main? |
| [07:19:00] | Cardoe: | mythbackend |
| [07:19:00] | Chutt: | i only wrote about 20% of that |
| [07:19:00] | Cardoe: | fine them |
| [07:19:00] | Cardoe: | er then |
| [07:19:00] | Chutt: | just so you're aware |
| [07:19:00] | Chutt: | but continue, please |
| [07:19:00] | Cardoe: | mythfilldatabase |
| [07:19:00] | Cardoe: | let's pick that one |
| [07:20:00] | Chutt: | that started out as a c program |
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| [07:20:00] | Chutt: | and is just an xml parser, mainly |
| [07:20:00] | Chutt: | trivial code |
| [07:21:00] | Cardoe: | started as C |
| [07:21:00] | Chutt: | and _is_ completely procedural |
| [07:21:00] | Cardoe: | and made it to something nasty. |
| [07:21:00] | Chutt: | what's nasty about it? |
| [07:21:00] | Cardoe: | the fact that it can be refactored down like 50% |
| [07:22:00] | Chutt: | there's really no need to do so |
| [07:22:00] | Chutt: | but, send in a patch if you think it necessary |
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| [07:22:00] | Chutt: | actually, quite a bit of that code could be gotten rid of, since it's for dealing with dead xmltv grabbers |
| [07:22:00] | Cardoe: | it'd be for ease of maintainablitity |
| [07:23:00] | Cardoe: | Which could be handled gracefully. |
| [07:23:00] | Cardoe: | but entirely besides the point. |
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| [07:26:00] | Chutt: | i do agree, there are problems in the source |
| [07:27:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: the MythTV code is not easily maintained. |
| [07:27:00] | Chutt: | i'm not really having problems maintaining it |
| [07:27:00] | Cardoe: | you know what I mean. |
| [07:27:00] | Chutt: | no, not really |
| [07:28:00] | hadees: | Chutt, i think he means its not easy for people to learn it |
| [07:28:00] | Chutt: | well, that it's not |
| [07:28:00] | Chutt: | but maintained? |
| [07:28:00] | Cardoe: | Of course the primary code writers are going to know it well. |
| [07:28:00] | Cardoe: | Sure, there's extra work for you. |
| [07:28:00] | Cardoe: | Properly designed code is trivial to maintain. |
| [07:28:00] | Chutt: | what's your definition of maintain, then? |
| [07:29:00] | Cardoe: | Extend, Support, Identify & Repair. |
| [07:29:00] | hadees: | Cardoe, i think its just a problem with size, any large project has the same problems |
| [07:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, dont forget make it impossible to use in winders :P |
| [07:29:00] | ** kormoc has flashbacks from programming 101 with that def of maintain. ** | |
| [07:29:00] | Chutt: | and you think that with a 'properly designed' codebase, someone completely unfamiliar with a large project is going to be able to sit down and fix bugs in 10 minutes? |
| [07:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | kormoc: hehe |
| [07:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey kormoc question for ya |
| [07:30:00] | Cardoe: | You know what. |
| [07:30:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, shoot. |
| [07:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just recently my secondary box has been doing some weird shit |
| [07:30:00] | kormoc: | yeah? |
| [07:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the colors go all skewed |
| [07:30:00] | Cardoe: | I worked for a company that writes the software for Bellsouth phone network. |
| [07:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | purples and greens |
| [07:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it boots up and the screen goes batshit |
| [07:30:00] | hadees: | anyone ever have lines on their tv from nvidia tv-out |
| [07:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have to reboot and reboot to get it to come up |
| [07:30:00] | kormoc: | nvidia card? |
| [07:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | aye |
| [07:31:00] | Cardoe: | They had a scripting language written for their testing units attached to the big switches. |
| [07:31:00] | kormoc: | I had a card that did that, one of the memory chips wasn't making complete contact, so when it heated up it lost it. |
| [07:31:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, can you swap machiens and see if it's the card? |
| [07:31:00] | Chutt: | cardoe, if i could automate testing for myth, i would. |
| [07:31:00] | Fat_Matt: | hadees: I get a weird thing in the middle of my screen, like a small box 1" square where occasionaly there are flickering lines |
| [07:31:00] | Cardoe: | I was able to extend the language without even knowing it and make it work in a short day's project. |
| [07:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have used this card for ages |
| [07:31:00] | atomjack: | can somebody help me? trying to compile myth, but it's not letting me enable alsa support |
| [07:31:00] | ** GreyFoxx wonders if Cardoe and he work for the same company heh ** | |
| [07:31:00] | hadees: | Fat_Matt, these are like bad singal bars that move up the screen |
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| [07:32:00] | Fat_Matt: | hadees: in that case, no |
| [07:32:00] | hadees: | i can't tell if its the card or the cable or something |
| [07:32:00] | atomjack: | i know alsa works cause i've been using myth via atrpms.net ... so i tried downloading alsa-drivers and compiling/installing but still no luck |
| [07:32:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, and I'm sure myth could theorically reach that point, but in all honestly, given the open source nature, I don't think it ever will, cause noone is willing to put that much time into it |
| [07:32:00] | Chutt: | cardoe, and this scripting language was a half million lines of code? |
| [07:32:00] | Chutt: | written by volunteers from around the world? |
| [07:32:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: and honestly, my bitching and indifference to MythTV's source base has been largely do the unnecessary Gentoo bashing I received in the past while actually attempting to contribute |
| [07:33:00] | Chutt: | cardoe, my gentoo bashing has largely been from your attitude, and dealing with the random idiot user =) |
| [07:33:00] | Fat_Matt: | atomjack: alsa is in the kernel, you shouldn't need to download drivers, you might need alsamixer or something to set sound levels |
| [07:33:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: The source base that I had to extend the commands into were probably well over that. |
| [07:33:00] | Chutt: | you're the only maintainer whose threatened to fork myth a few times :p |
| [07:33:00] | atomjack: | fat_matt:but i'm trying to compile mythtv and it's not letting me enable alsa support |
| [07:33:00] | atomjack: | so i get no sound, since it says alsa support wasn't compiled in |
| [07:33:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: the first Gentoo bash I got was from replying to a user that I had experienced the same problem and asking him for more details on his config |
| [07:33:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: you called us idiots for using Gentoo |
| [07:34:00] | Chutt: | i got a _lot_ of idiot gentoo users before the ebuilds were decent |
| [07:34:00] | Cardoe: | or something to the sort. |
| [07:34:00] | Cardoe: | So you've gotten a thumbs down attitude in my book since that day |
| [07:34:00] | Fat_Matt: | atomjack: don't know, sorry |
| [07:34:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, in all fairness, there's a lot of people using gentoo who shouldn't, and that does give a bad overall impression, imho |
| [07:34:00] | atomjack: | gah |
| [07:34:00] | Chutt: | i don't get so many now |
| [07:34:00] | hadees: | the Gentoo users who are the problems are new to linux, they are just as annoying to gentoo users at to mythtv users |
| [07:34:00] | Chutt: | most of the kiddies have switched to ubuntu |
| [07:34:00] | Fat_Matt: | is there a configure script with alsa-enable or something? |
| [07:35:00] | hadees: | as* |
| [07:35:00] | Cardoe: | I've seen more idiotic questions in here related to other distros then Gentoo |
| [07:35:00] | Cardoe: | because a lot of what they ask is completed by the trivial "emerge mythtv" |
| [07:35:00] | Chutt: | right |
| [07:35:00] | atomjack: | well the only thing configure --help says about alsa is to disable it..it's like the configure script doesn't think i have alsa support on my system |
| [07:35:00] | Chutt: | the ebuilds are better now |
| [07:35:00] | Chutt: | thanks to you :p |
| [07:35:00] | kormoc: | atomjack, did you tey --enable-alsa? |
| [07:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Gentoo us to be the most common problem distro in here |
| [07:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, and installing the ivtv drivers on gentoo is by far the most sexy way :) |
| [07:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no fuss no mus |
| [07:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | use, but not nearly as much nor |
| [07:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | now |
| [07:36:00] | atomjack: | yep |
| [07:36:00] | Fosten: | anybody know how to get sound working for the pvr-500? i've tried deleting all instances of msp3400.ko and reloading the msp3400 module after compiling ivtv, but no luck... i'm not even sure if this is the problem and have read elsewhere that the msp3400 module is only needed for the pvr250/350 cards. anybody have any insight into this problem? |
| [07:36:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, till you get a m179 :P |
| [07:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | especially since most of them moved to their own channel :) |
| [07:36:00] | Cardoe: | I actually got a PVR-150 card from someone |
| [07:36:00] | atomjack: | i have tried that. it still says Alsa support no |
| [07:36:00] | Cardoe: | So I'll be able to test ivtv 0.3.x now |
| [07:36:00] | Cardoe: | And I also got a PPC system |
| [07:36:00] | Chutt: | it's a crapshoot (ivtv 0.3.x) |
| [07:36:00] | atomjack: | i recently had to upgrade to ivtv 0.3.x so i could get it working alongside my hd-3000 |
| [07:36:00] | atomjack: | and it's working fine |
| [07:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Most of the issues now seem to be , PVR150 related, can't get packages installed or can't configure mysql properly |
| [07:36:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: the development is way too fast paced. |
| [07:37:00] | Chutt: | cardoe, heh |
| [07:37:00] | Cardoe: | Wasn't there one day with like 6 releases or something |
| [07:37:00] | Chutt: | it wouldn't matter so much if they guy used _some_ sort of source control |
| [07:37:00] | hadees: | he should get the sf site |
| [07:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chutt: It amazes me how adamant they seem to be against it |
| [07:37:00] | kormoc: | yeah... |
| [07:37:00] | kormoc: | like, how can they operate? |
| [07:37:00] | Chutt: | it's one guy, refusing to send his patches upstream =) |
| [07:38:00] | Cardoe: | I can't function without SVN anymore. |
| [07:38:00] | Chutt: | which is the most annoying at this point |
| [07:38:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [07:38:00] | Chutt: | i really don't understand why the various support modules are still maintained separately |
| [07:38:00] | atomjack: | ok |
| [07:38:00] | Chutt: | there wouldn't be the fucking stupid msp3400 issues, for one |
| [07:38:00] | atomjack: | haha i edited my configure script to just say alsa=yes |
| [07:39:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: now if we're cool |
| [07:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hrm, the power supply fan in this frontend is making funky noises |
| [07:39:00] | hadees: | yeah the powermate is in the kernel but not ivtv |
| [07:39:00] | atomjack: | er ok that didnt owkr |
| [07:39:00] | Cardoe: | I'll work with you |
| [07:39:00] | Chutt: | just send me updated patches :p |
| [07:39:00] | hadees: | sort of funny |
| [07:39:00] | Cardoe: | rather then just sitting quiet. |
| [07:39:00] | Chutt: | i don't like having to look for stuff |
| [07:39:00] | Cardoe: | alright |
| [07:39:00] | Chutt: | sure |
| [07:39:00] | Cardoe: | soon as I get my MythTV box back |
| [07:39:00] | Chutt: | i'll be happy to apply whatever |
| [07:39:00] | kormoc: | yay! |
| [07:39:00] | Chutt: | cleanups, included |
| [07:39:00] | Cardoe: | I just moved |
| [07:40:00] | Cardoe: | So my MythTV box is somewhere in the pile of hell. |
| [07:40:00] | Chutt: | and i've been too busy with work to do myth stuff |
| [07:40:00] | ** GreyFoxx sends a patch that wipes the code base and just outputs "Slackware rules, everyone else sucks" . then runs away and hides from the shitstorm ** | |
| [07:40:00] | Chutt: | aside from apply randomass patches that tend to break things |
| [07:40:00] | Cardoe: | pile of hell being the area that I just dumped everything that wasn't necessary for basic life. (i.e. bed, food, clothes) |
| [07:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey kormoc do you know off hand if its possible to do a knoppix style mythtv frontend off of a PS2? |
| [07:40:00] | Chutt: | and then have to spend longer fixing them than i did applying them |
| [07:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cardoe: I like moving. It's a good way to purge all the crap I seem to collect |
| [07:41:00] | Cardoe: | GreyFoxx: yep |
| [07:41:00] | Chutt: | slicerdicer, cpu's too slow |
| [07:41:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, afaik there is no ps2 port of mythfrontend, and afaik you can only use sony's linux on the ps2, I seem to recall |
| [07:41:00] | Cardoe: | that's the idea with that pile there |
| [07:41:00] | Cardoe: | sort first. |
| [07:41:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: you might get some decoupling from QT patches |
| [07:41:00] | Chutt: | how decoupling? |
| [07:42:00] | Chutt: | i wouldn't want to remove qstring/qdatabase stuff |
| [07:42:00] | Cardoe: | no |
| [07:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cardoe: Ileave stuff in boxes after 6 months I look through them for items of obvious $$$ value and dump the rest |
| [07:42:00] | Chutt: | the ui's getting decoupled more, with mythui |
| [07:42:00] | Cardoe: | But there's been some extensions of QT classes that wasn't necessary. |
| [07:42:00] | Cardoe: | somewhere. |
| [07:42:00] | Cardoe: | I have to go through my code. |
| [07:42:00] | Chutt: | extensions? |
| [07:42:00] | Chutt: | hmm |
| [07:42:00] | kormoc: | I really need to learn qt programming |
| [07:43:00] | Chutt: | only thing that's coming to mind is stuff to work around qt bugs |
| [07:43:00] | Cardoe: | QT sucks but that's a personal opinion |
| [07:43:00] | Chutt: | i rather like it |
| [07:43:00] | Cardoe: | maybe it is QT bugs. |
| [07:43:00] | Cardoe: | I'd have to test it |
| [07:43:00] | Chutt: | but, a large part of it is the documentation |
| [07:43:00] | Chutt: | used to do a lot of gtk crap, and that was hellish compared to qt |
| [07:43:00] | Chutt: | always had to be going through the source of the various widgets |
| [07:44:00] | kormoc: | I think my biggest problem with qt/gtk/etc is that I just don't 'get' gui programming on that level yet. |
| [07:44:00] | Chutt: | i like the helper classes of qt a hell of a lot more than the ui stuff |
| [07:45:00] | Chutt: | though it'd be nice to get rid of their slowass xml parser |
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| [07:46:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, do you have a fav book about qt programming you'd recommend by any chance? |
| [07:46:00] | Chutt: | never seen a book for it |
| [07:46:00] | hadees: | Chutt, have you ever looked into Mozilla's source, they use XUL which is really easy |
| [07:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've yet to see a QT book on a shelf anywhere |
| [07:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | and I've looked |
| [07:46:00] | Chutt: | there _is_ one, though |
| [07:46:00] | hadees: | its XML for GUI |
| [07:46:00] | Chutt: | hadees, i'm not a fan of high level gui stuff |
| [07:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hell, it's near impossible to find books relating to anything X Gui like |
| [07:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | except basica configuration |
| [07:47:00] | Chutt: | the qt book has a free version of qt for win32 |
| [07:47:00] | kormoc: | fair nuff |
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| [07:47:00] | kormoc: | I just would love to have some sorta hand walking document guide me into the right mindset, if ya know what I mean. |
| [07:47:00] | Chutt: | the qt tutorial's pretty good |
| [07:47:00] | Chutt: | well, tutorials, there's a few in their docs |
| [07:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I love QT's docs. Made my life easier |
| [07:48:00] | kormoc: | hrm, I shall have to look into it then. |
| [07:48:00] | hadees: | my biggest problem with MythTV is using gdb |
| [07:48:00] | Chutt: | http://doc.trolltech.com/3.1/tutorial.html |
| [07:48:00] | Cardoe: | I think QT is fine for the frontend and the graphics stuff. |
| [07:48:00] | hadees: | i could never step through around mythmusic |
| [07:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yay, gonna be 29 degrees(c) out tomorrow and I've got a couple hours of outdoor paintball at noon to cook me :) |
| [07:49:00] | kormoc: | thank you Chutt |
| [07:49:00] | Chutt: | check chapter 14 |
| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | That's cool with me. |
| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | But the backend... little iffy on that. |
| [07:49:00] | Quiote: | hello |
| [07:49:00] | Chutt: | cardoe, the backend's using the abstraction layers, though :p |
| [07:49:00] | Quiote: | whenever i connect svideo to my video card and try to startx it crashes |
| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: ldd the backend though |
| [07:49:00] | Quiote: | x loads fine with just the crt connected |
| [07:49:00] | Chutt: | right |
| [07:49:00] | Chutt: | with qt 4, that'll all go away |
| [07:49:00] | hadees: | Quiote, tv-out crashs or to your monitor |
| [07:50:00] | Cardoe: | are you gonna switch everyone to QT4 though? |
| [07:50:00] | Chutt: | but i can't start porting to qt 4 until all the major distros have it :( |
| [07:50:00] | Cardoe: | you're still targetting qt 3.1 |
| [07:50:00] | Chutt: | soon as i possibly can |
| [07:50:00] | Quiote: | hadees: x crashes out back to bash prompt when i have crt and tv connected |
| [07:50:00] | Chutt: | that's because it's easy to support back to qt 3.1 =) |
| [07:50:00] | hadees: | Quiote, either way you will get more help in #xorg or if it is tv out either #ati for an ati card or #nvidia for nvidia |
| [07:51:00] | mchou: | Chutt: Do yo expect the qt4 port of myth to be relatively easy or difficult? |
| [07:51:00] | mchou: | you* |
| [07:51:00] | Chutt: | fairly difficult, actually |
| [07:51:00] | Chutt: | they've changed some semantics quite a bit |
| [07:52:00] | Chutt: | well, it'd be relatively easy if i just used their porting layer, but that's lame |
| [07:52:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [07:52:00] | Chutt: | their threading support is much more mature, which changes things |
| [07:52:00] | Chutt: | (object creation, etc) |
| [07:52:00] | hadees: | Chutt, get lxm to pay for it |
| [07:52:00] | Chutt: | and all their container classes changed |
| [07:52:00] | mchou: | ouch |
| [07:53:00] | Chutt: | i did reuse the qt4 gl ui code out in mythui, though =) |
| [07:53:00] | mchou: | sounds like qt4 will be a bugfest |
| [07:53:00] | Chutt: | naw, couple releases and it'll be fine |
| [07:54:00] | Chutt: | which'll be done by the time kde's using it |
| [07:54:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [07:54:00] | Chutt: | and no distro's realistically going to include qt4 until kde uses it |
| [07:54:00] | mchou: | yeah, no doubt. |
| [07:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | what are the biggest benefits of QT4 ? Improved stability, easier to write with or performance gains of any sort ? |
| [07:55:00] | Chutt: | split up libraries (qt core, qt ui, etc) |
| [07:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | of course the fact that they have a gpl version will make the windows users wet themselves over the idea of a windows mythfrontend, but that's not what I consider a huge one |
| [07:55:00] | Chutt: | http://doc.trolltech.com/4.0/qt4-intro.html |
| [07:55:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: hehe, no doubt :) |
| [07:56:00] | mchou: | is qt4 win "free?" |
| [07:56:00] | Chutt: | think so |
| [07:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | mchou: yes, they have a version they are releasing just like the x11 one. same license I think |
| [07:57:00] | ** GreyFoxx heads to bed ** | |
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| [08:01:00] | mchou: | I think I'm gonna go for a bike ride right now. |
| [08:01:00] | nick125: | where do i set if i want mythfrontend to use nvidia instead of sgi opengl? (my system is already set for nvidia, just ran opengl-update to make sure) |
| [08:02:00] | Chutt: | what's the difference? |
| [08:03:00] | nick125: | well, im wondering if that might be causing the crashes that happen sometimes when i alt-tab while watching something in mythtv |
| [08:03:00] | nick125: | the system will lock up |
| [08:03:00] | Chutt: | well, i'd just try to disable the opengl sync option, first |
| [08:04:00] | Chutt: | there's no difference to myth what gl libs it links against |
| [08:04:00] | nick125: | is that in mythsetup or the settings option in mythfrontend? |
| [08:04:00] | Chutt: | mythfrontend |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | Chutt: ok, I remember what I wanted to ask. Is there a way to disable xvmc if it's compiled in? |
| [08:05:00] | Chutt: | of course |
| [08:05:00] | Chutt: | same page as the gl sync options |
| [08:05:00] | Chutt: | playback settings, 6 or 7 in, iirc |
| [08:05:00] | Chutt: | too many damn options |
| [08:05:00] | mchou: | heh, no wonder I couldnt find it :) |
| [08:05:00] | mchou: | easier just to go thru the BD :) |
| [08:05:00] | mchou: | DB* |
| [08:08:00] | nick125: | im not finding the gl sync options either :/ |
| [08:08:00] | Gumby` is now known as Gumby | |
| [08:09:00] | Chutt: | 5th page of playback settings |
| [08:09:00] | Chutt: | 'Hardware Decoding Settings' |
| [08:09:00] | nick125: | ok |
| [08:11:00] | nick125: | ok |
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| [08:11:00] | ** nick125 waits for nvidia-glx to finish emerging ** | |
| [08:12:00] | nick125: | bleh, now ivtv dont want to modprobe |
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| [08:16:00] | nick125: | bleh, x crashed for no reason once again |
| [08:17:00] | Fosten: | anybody know how to get sound working for the pvr-500? i've tried deleting all instances of msp3400.ko and reloading the msp3400 module after compiling ivtv, but no luck... i'm not even sure if this is the problem and have read elsewhere that the msp3400 module is only needed for the pvr250/350 cards. anybody have any insight into this problem? |
| [08:17:00] | Chutt: | nick125, happen to have x render accel turned on? |
| [08:18:00] | nick125: | yeah...otherwise x crashes even more |
| [08:18:00] | Chutt: | uh, you sure? |
| [08:18:00] | nick125: | im using composite btw... |
| [08:18:00] | Chutt: | shouldn't matter |
| [08:18:00] | nick125: | render accel is on..i remeber turning it on |
| [08:18:00] | Chutt: | render accel should be off, it's really not stable =) |
| [08:18:00] | nick125: | interesting |
| [08:19:00] | Cardoe: | why composite? |
| [08:19:00] | Cardoe: | that's not stable @ all |
| [08:20:00] | nick125: | hmm...anyone here using nvidia and xvmc (i cant remember the exact name), whats your load average when you are watching? |
| [08:20:00] | Chutt: | tv out shouldn't really make a difference |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | yeah, that's just asking for trouble. |
| [08:20:00] | Chutt: | it'll just look crappy =) |
| [08:20:00] | nick125: | once i turned on render accel, it became pretty stable |
| [08:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hi mchou |
| [08:22:00] | kormoc: | nick125, x uses about 25% for myself with xvmc |
| [08:22:00] | mchou: | hi SlicerDicer- |
| [08:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, I was wondering if you have messed with mythbrowser alot? |
| [08:22:00] | mchou: | hell no. |
| [08:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok... |
| [08:23:00] | mchou: | never even installed it |
| [08:23:00] | nick125: | 00:22:55 up 4:50, 8 users, load average: 0.39, 0.83, 0.80 < not too bad |
| [08:23:00] | mchou: | dont have apache running :) |
| [08:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [08:23:00] | nick125: | lol |
| [08:23:00] | Chutt: | mythbrowser is the crappy browser thingie |
| [08:24:00] | Chutt: | it goes to _other_ places :p |
| [08:24:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [08:24:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, I just don't think you'll get mplayer-plugin working with it |
| [08:24:00] | kormoc: | it just doesn't seem to support it |
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| [08:26:00] | Chutt: | the guy that wrote mythbrowser disappeared |
| [08:26:00] | Chutt: | some french guy |
| [08:27:00] | mchou: | nick125: what kind of nvidia card you got and which version of myth are you using? |
| [08:27:00] | nick125: | fx5700le and 0.18.1 IIRC |
| [08:28:00] | mchou: | nick125: you have any stuttering problems when the OSD is up? |
| [08:28:00] | mchou: | (for playback) |
| [08:28:00] | Chutt: | he will |
| [08:28:00] | Chutt: | that's common to 0.18.x with xvmc |
| [08:28:00] | mchou: | like 3–4 secs.... |
| [08:28:00] | Chutt: | well, pretty common, at least |
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| [08:28:00] | mchou: | then it settles down. |
| [08:29:00] | nick125: | stuttering of the OSD? i dont see any.. |
| [08:29:00] | mchou: | hmm.... |
| [08:29:00] | Chutt: | the osd should also flicker crazily in some instances =) |
| [08:30:00] | mchou: | Chutt: yeah, that what I get. But I'm using .18.0 |
| [08:30:00] | Chutt: | no xvmc stuff changed in the fixes branch |
| [08:30:00] | mchou: | wonder if ppl had better luck w/18.1 |
| [08:30:00] | mchou: | oh, OK. |
| [08:30:00] | nick125: | does mythtv have a thing where i can adjust the brightness of the video? |
| [08:30:00] | mchou: | answers that question :) |
| [08:30:00] | Chutt: | nick125, yeah, pre and post recording |
| [08:30:00] | Chutt: | check out keys.txt |
| [08:31:00] | ** xris just heard from Jarod.. he's still alive. heh. ** | |
| [08:31:00] | Chutt: | amazing |
| [08:31:00] | Chutt: | he's been out for a while :p |
| [08:31:00] | xris: | new job apparently has him doing a LOT more travelling then expected. |
| [08:31:00] | Chutt: | ah |
| [08:31:00] | Chutt: | no fun |
| [08:31:00] | xris: | apparently, he's currently at Los Alamos Nat'l labs |
| [08:31:00] | mchou: | haha. |
| [08:32:00] | mchou: | working on nukes |
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| [08:32:00] | mchou: | or machines that simulate nukes :) |
| [08:33:00] | xris: | yeah, no clue |
| [08:33:00] | mchou: | ppl are disgruntled over there.... |
| [08:33:00] | mchou: | morale is very bad over there |
| [08:33:00] | xris: | ah |
| [08:33:00] | mchou: | bunch of ppl took early retirement. |
| [08:33:00] | xris: | not where I am. :) |
| [08:34:00] | xris: | quite good morale |
| [08:34:00] | ** xris pokes kormoc ** | |
| [08:34:00] | xris: | just overworked. |
| [08:34:00] | mchou: | that lab got shut down for six months or so by the prior director. |
| [08:35:00] | mchou: | for a tape/CD or some such thing that never existed. |
| [08:35:00] | mchou: | "security breach" |
| [08:35:00] | Chutt: | xris, what's he doing, just linux/hardware support? |
| [08:37:00] | xris: | don't really know |
| [08:38:00] | xris: | linux networx specializes in clusters, though |
| [08:38:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [08:38:00] | mchou: | compute clusters like beowulf |
| [08:38:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [08:38:00] | kormoc: | working at the best place ever tends to instill good morale |
| [08:38:00] | mchou: | not HA clusters |
| [08:38:00] | xris: | kormoc: I agree |
| [08:39:00] | xris: | about the best coding type job I can think of. |
| [08:39:00] | xris: | even if I'm doing less and less coding these days. heh. |
| [08:39:00] | kormoc: | hehe, yeah. |
| [08:40:00] | kormoc: | tho the design work you do is quite fun too |
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| [08:40:00] | xris: | yes |
| [08:40:00] | xris: | I actually enjoy the management stuff, too. planning and organizing is good. |
| [08:40:00] | xris: | oh, and jarod said he'd set up OX for us. |
| [08:41:00] | kormoc: | OX? |
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| [08:51:00] | xris: | open-xchange |
| [08:51:00] | xris: | but at that point, it seems almost worth just paying for the commercial version... |
| [08:53:00] | Chutt: | next ffmpeg merge is going to be a pain |
| [08:53:00] | Chutt: | they split some stuff out into another lib |
| [08:55:00] | Chutt: | anyone test the dvd burning patch in trac? |
| [08:56:00] | xris: | didn't even know it was there. |
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| [09:03:00] | kormoc: | xris, ahh, I see. Yeah... I wonder if OX will even do what we want enough for the cost. |
| [09:05:00] | xris: | it'll do what we need... but it's about the same price to buy the commercial one as it is to pay jarod to set up the free one. heh. |
| [09:08:00] | Quiote: | hmm |
| [09:09:00] | Quiote: | i have a geforce mx4000, i cant seem to get any of the new drivers owrking iwth it |
| [09:12:00] | kormoc: | Quiote, Geforce 4 mx 400? |
| [09:13:00] | Quiote: | nah |
| [09:13:00] | Quiote: | the box says Geforce mx4000 |
| [09:13:00] | kormoc: | okay, then it's likle not supported anymore |
| [09:13:00] | Chutt: | it's not one of the no longer supported cards. |
| [09:13:00] | kormoc: | the 7xxx drivers stopped supporting anything under a geforce 3 |
| [09:13:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, if it's a GeForce 1 mx 4000, it is. |
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| [09:14:00] | Quiote: | its not a geforce 1 |
| [09:14:00] | kormoc: | tho, I donno if that card actually exists. |
| [09:14:00] | Chutt: | uh, it's not |
| [09:14:00] | Quiote: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150055 |
| [09:14:00] | Chutt: | and the gf2 mx cards are still supported in the newer drivers |
| [09:14:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [09:14:00] | Quiote: | i can get only g 5xxx drivers to work |
| [09:15:00] | kormoc: | Quiote, so what core is on that card, do you know? |
| [09:15:00] | Chutt: | it's an mx4000 :p |
| [09:15:00] | Quiote: | kormoc: how would i find out? |
| [09:15:00] | Chutt: | was the last gf4 mx card to be released, iirc |
| [09:16:00] | kormoc: | Quiote, yeah, it's a geforce 4. |
| [09:16:00] | kormoc: | GeForce4 MX 4000 |
| [09:17:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, fair nuff |
| [09:17:00] | kormoc: | Quiote, any output from the driver starting up that would point to the problem? |
| [09:18:00] | Quiote: | well with the newer drivers, if i have just my crt plugged up X comes up , but if i plug the svideo in x crashes with no real error |
| [09:19:00] | kormoc: | anything in the x log file? |
| [09:19:00] | Quiote: | nah |
| [09:19:00] | Quiote: | would you like to see the log? |
| [09:20:00] | kormoc: | you could pastebin the nvidia parts, sure |
| [09:23:00] | Quiote: | http://pastebin.com/330500 |
| [09:24:00] | kormoc: | Quiote, actually, why don't you pastebin the output of a grep NVIDIA |
| [09:27:00] | Quiote: | how i do that |
| [09:27:00] | Quiote: | cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log > /mnt/mythstorage/xorglogs.txt | grep nvidia |
| [09:27:00] | Quiote: | that doesn't seem to work |
| [09:28:00] | kormoc: | grep NVIDIA /var/log/Xorg.0.log > /mnt/mythstorage/xorglogs.txt |
| [09:28:00] | Quiote: | http://pastebin.com/330502 |
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| [09:30:00] | kormoc: | Quiote, what's your xorg device settings for the card? |
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| [09:30:00] | Quiote: | ? |
| [09:30:00] | kormoc: | the video card device section in your xorg.conf |
| [09:31:00] | Quiote: | http://pastebin.com/330503 |
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| [09:33:00] | kormoc: | I assume you want it to be cloned to both displays? |
| [09:34:00] | Quiote: | yes |
| [09:34:00] | kormoc: | I'd try adding in |
| [09:34:00] | kormoc: | Option "TwinViewOrientation" "clone" |
| [09:34:00] | kormoc: | and see if that does anything |
| [09:35:00] | kormoc: | cause by default, I think it trys to do two desktops. |
| [09:35:00] | Quiote: | added that |
| [09:35:00] | Quiote: | does the same thing |
| [09:35:00] | Quiote: | crashes out |
| [09:35:00] | kormoc: | hrm :/ |
| [09:35:00] | Quiote: | works fine with 5xxx drivers though |
| [09:36:00] | kormoc: | well, given that then, I'd use the 5xxx driver and report it as a bug to the nvidia team. |
| [09:36:00] | kormoc: | They are realtively good about bugs like this |
| [09:36:00] | Quiote: | cool |
| [09:37:00] | Quiote: | thanks though |
| [09:37:00] | kormoc: | Your welcome, sorry I couldn't help more. |
| [09:37:00] | ** xris smacks kormoc for bad grammar. ** | |
| [09:37:00] | ** kormoc laughs. ** | |
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| [09:44:00] | robin|online: | I'm still unhappy with the quality the PVR-150 gives. It is way too blurry, I have been playing with the dnr settings, but that will only make it worse. Can anyone give me some suggestions how to lift up the quality. |
| [09:44:00] | robin|online: | I'm using PAL (NL) |
| [09:45:00] | robin|online: | The quality is not even near the quality my TV tuner gives |
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| [10:00:00] | robbinsc: | can anyone help me? I had a kernel upgrade go bad in a hurry...... |
| [10:01:00] | fweeee: | The "Watch TV" option doesnt do anything if I go straight into it – I need to start recording a channel, stop it, then go into "watch TV" – why is this happening? What can I do about it? |
| [10:02:00] | robbinsc: | the whole thing got trashed – that is, I can't watch livetv at all – I rebuilt ivtv, but not even that helps |
| [10:04:00] | atomjack: | fweeee:is there a default channel set for your capture card? (in mythtvseup) |
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| [10:14:00] | fweeee: | atomjack: Ummm, I dont remember specifically doing that. |
| [10:15:00] | fweeee: | Thanks – I'll go searching for that. |
| [10:15:00] | fweeee: | atomjack: Would you know why some channels are silent too? |
| [10:16:00] | fweeee: | They arnt always quiet – if I open up to them, they are fine, but if I switch to them from another channel, they arnt. |
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| [10:22:00] | fweeee: | Damn – It keeps changing the starting channel to blank :( |
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| [10:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey fweeee I got afl streaming on my mythtv box by using mozilla |
| [10:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | although I cant control mozilla it is in its infant stages |
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| [10:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, you around still? |
| [10:56:00] | kormoc: | hihi |
| [10:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I was going to ask your advice |
| [10:56:00] | kormoc: | yeah? |
| [10:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have this working that myth launches mozilla |
| [10:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so that is the browser |
| [10:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | now the question is I dont want to use a keyboard at all on this box at most a mouse |
| [10:57:00] | fweeee: | SlicerDicer-: afl streaming? Oh, as in from the web, not from the teevee. |
| [10:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
| [10:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but its streaming through myth in essence cause well. yeah |
| [10:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and it looks bad ass! quality is perfect |
| [10:57:00] | fweeee: | I'll be happy if I can just make the default channel work! |
| [10:58:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, can you enable the myth mouse not grabbing setting? |
| [10:58:00] | fweeee: | This is dumb – I keep filling in the Starting Channel, and it keeps on blanking it out! |
| [10:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what you mean mythmouse? |
| [10:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | can you use the remote as a mouse? |
| [10:59:00] | kormoc: | uhh |
| [10:59:00] | kormoc: | not that I know of, but you can enable a normal mouse |
| [10:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well anyway what I am wanting to do is come up with a way to get rid of mozilla |
| [10:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | after I am done |
| [11:00:00] | kormoc: | it doesn't now? |
| [11:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well no |
| [11:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cause I changed the browser in myth from mythbrowser to mozilla |
| [11:00:00] | fweeee: | Now I'm looking directly at the database, and it says the default channel is 3, but its still not working! |
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| [11:01:00] | kormoc: | hum |
| [11:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | fweeee, you by chance did not follow the yank directions and put in ntsc? |
| [11:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or not set it to the right tuner |
| [11:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, anyway I am trying to come up with a brilliant way to do this |
| [11:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so I dont have to get yet another keyboard |
| [11:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I guess its unavoidable though eh? |
| [11:03:00] | fweeee: | SlicerDicer-: No – I selected Pal |
| [11:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :/ |
| [11:03:00] | fweeee: | SlicerDicer-: I only have one tuner – I dont know how I could put hte wrong one in. |
| [11:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well it has svideo etc |
| [11:04:00] | fweeee: | I'm using it through a normal monitor right now. |
| [11:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I cant remember how to do that stuff but there is a way to switch it like that with the ivtv driver then cat your /dev/video or whatever it is |
| [11:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that dont matter fweeee I am talking about imput not output |
| [11:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | your input may be set wrong |
| [11:04:00] | fweeee: | :\ |
| [11:04:00] | fweeee: | That would be in mythtvsetup? |
| [11:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well that is if you are using ivtv |
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| [11:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and pvr card and if your not then I just made a giant ass out of myself |
| [11:05:00] | fweeee: | ivtv? |
| [11:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I assume to much |
| [11:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [11:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, smack me please |
| [11:05:00] | fweeee: | I dont know about that – I think its bttv (If they are different things). |
| [11:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah I think they are and I dont really know how to do bttv :/ |
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| [11:06:00] | ** kormoc smacks SlicerDicer- ** | |
| [11:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I got to get to sleep its 2am yeash my brain is fried too |
| [11:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | least I got afl working |
| [11:06:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [11:06:00] | fweeee: | I think I might just deal with it. |
| [11:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | footy ondemand :) |
| [11:06:00] | kormoc: | yeah, but I can't come up with a way to do what you want SlicerDicer-. |
| [11:06:00] | kormoc: | sorry |
| [11:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | np |
| [11:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am sure I will come up with something |
| [11:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | even if I have to write it myself |
| [11:07:00] | fweeee: | I'm planning on having this thing permanently on – just means I gotta do a bunch of stuff before using it. |
| [11:07:00] | fweeee: | SlicerDicer-: 2am? So – you watch afl and your not in oz? |
| [11:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | fweeee, I live in Australia as well as USA :) |
| [11:07:00] | fweeee: | Ahhh k. |
| [11:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so I watch it while in the states by streaming it |
| [11:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | with how good that quality is though you would never think it was a stream hehe |
| [11:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I am off to sleep |
| [11:11:00] | kormoc: | night night SlicerDicer- :) |
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| [11:18:00] | robbinsc: | i'm back...a restart solved my problems. But I have another question – Is there a way to clear fuzz? I've got nasty static on the first half of my channel lineup in livetv |
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| [11:19:00] | robbinsc: | is this more of an ivtv issue? |
| [11:20:00] | static[x]: | quick question, does does mythtv require X? |
| [11:23:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [11:23:00] | Agrajag-: | well actually the backend doesn't requier it to be running |
| [11:23:00] | Agrajag-: | requires libs |
| [11:24:00] | static[x]: | ? |
| [11:24:00] | Agrajag-: | anyone know how to letterbox tv out so that it's 16:9? |
| [11:24:00] | static[x]: | is it possible to setup mythtv without X? |
| [11:25:00] | Agrajag-: | you could manually enter stuff in the db |
| [11:25:00] | Agrajag-: | otherwise, no |
| [11:25:00] | Agrajag-: | well you could run mythtv-setup tunnelled through ssh or vnc or something |
| [11:25:00] | Agrajag-: | vnc would obviously require the server to run X |
| [11:26:00] | static[x]: | so the setup program requires X? |
| [11:26:00] | robbinsc: | Agrajag- : can you explain a little more? can't you change the settings via the video card? |
| [11:26:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [11:27:00] | Agrajag-: | robbinsc: i dont think so. im using tv out with an nvidia fx5200 |
| [11:27:00] | robbinsc: | not with nvidia-settings ? |
| [11:27:00] | Agrajag-: | nup |
| [11:27:00] | Agrajag-: | there's overscan.. but that's not what i want |
| [11:27:00] | robbinsc: | hmph |
| [11:30:00] | Agrajag-: | i just want the output to be letterboxed so it doesn't looked stretched vertically |
| [11:30:00] | robbinsc: | ah |
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| [11:45:00] | fryfrog: | 1.2TB, mostly big files... ext3, xfs, jfs or reiserfs? |
| [11:47:00] | metusine: | is there anyway to manually tune mythtv in? |
| [11:48:00] | metusine: | or even tune it using something like tvtime and manually entering the freq? |
| [11:48:00] | fryfrog: | add a new channel to the db? |
| [11:49:00] | metusine: | but how do you specify the frequency? |
| [11:49:00] | fryfrog: | erm... |
| [11:49:00] | fryfrog: | its been a while :/ |
| [11:49:00] | metusine: | haha |
| [11:49:00] | metusine: | :p |
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| [11:55:00] | robin|online: | ok, I know the problem of the blur, but not how to fix it.. it looks like I have two images at one time on the screen.. only at slightly differents heights. |
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| [12:08:00] | robin|online: | please help me :) |
| [12:10:00] | travolta: | :) |
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| [12:22:00] | theturtle: | i can't get mythtv to use /opt/kde3/lib64/libkhtml.so |
| [12:22:00] | theturtle: | skipping incompatible /opt/kde3/lib/libkhtml.so |
| [12:23:00] | theturtle: | http://pastebin.com/330569 |
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| [12:31:00] | juski: | ello |
| [12:34:00] | juski: | laga: I got my dbox2 yesterday :) |
| [12:34:00] | juski: | finally |
| [12:41:00] | theturtle: | dvb is for lusers |
| [12:41:00] | theturtle: | :D |
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| [12:44:00] | juski: | and what is for non-lusers? |
| [12:44:00] | juski: | you're gonna start a flame war with talk like that |
| [12:45:00] | juski: | I think DVB is cool – no capturing required :-P |
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| [13:29:00] | Anaxagoras: | hello everybody |
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| [13:39:00] | jdahm: | hellol |
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| [13:41:00] | jdahm: | I am looking to get mythtv and I wanted to get a tv card that I know works |
| [13:41:00] | Anaxagoras: | i just wanted to comlain that my mythtv does not work, but it seems to run now. |
| [13:41:00] | Anaxagoras: | :) |
| [13:41:00] | Anaxagoras: | i just have to emerge the addons. |
| [13:41:00] | jdahm: | heh |
| [13:42:00] | Anaxagoras: | is someone around here, using gentoo? |
| [13:42:00] | jdahm: | so all ATI Winder cards are ruled out? |
| [13:42:00] | jdahm: | Anaxagoras: I probably will be |
| [13:42:00] | jdahm: | havnt decided what distro yet |
| [13:42:00] | Anaxagoras: | i have to unmask the packages.but i dont know how. |
| [13:42:00] | jdahm: | package.mask? |
| [13:42:00] | jdahm: | if I rremember correctly |
| [13:42:00] | jdahm: | is a hacky way but works |
| [13:43:00] | Anaxagoras: | i want to add mythbrowser, mythnews, mythweather, mythdvd, mythvideo, mythmusic, mythphone and so on |
| [13:43:00] | Anaxagoras: | but they are allmost all masked. |
| [13:43:00] | Anaxagoras: | i will have a try |
| [13:44:00] | jdahm: | what kind of card do you have Anaxagoras |
| [13:44:00] | jdahm: | ? |
| [13:44:00] | Anaxagoras: | i dont use a tv card |
| [13:44:00] | Anaxagoras: | i just want to have the frontend and the other features |
| [13:44:00] | jdahm: | what do you use? |
| [13:44:00] | jdahm: | oh |
| [13:45:00] | Anaxagoras: | later i will buy a haupauge card i think |
| [13:45:00] | jdahm: | well can anyone here tell me if TV Wonder Pro PCI TV-Tuner and Video Capture Card |
| [13:45:00] | jdahm: | will work? |
| [13:45:00] | Anaxagoras: | jams: did you have a look at the mythtv site and forum? |
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| [13:51:00] | jdahm: | hmm whats a good enough cpu speed that will give me high quality picture? |
| [13:51:00] | jdahm: | or rather the same kind that my tv had |
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| [14:00:00] | jdahm: | whats hte difference between PVR-150/250/350? |
| [14:00:00] | Xoritor: | good morning |
| [14:00:00] | jdahm: | good morning |
| [14:01:00] | Xoritor: | jdahm, the diff other than chipset and number of tuners? |
| [14:01:00] | Xoritor: | jdahm, thank you |
| [14:01:00] | Xoritor: | :-D |
| [14:01:00] | jdahm: | Xoritor: so If I were to use an 800 mhz box what would I need? |
| [14:01:00] | jdahm: | or a 1 Ghz |
| [14:01:00] | Xoritor: | the 150 has a new (read as improvied) chipset |
| [14:02:00] | Xoritor: | any of them should work fine... |
| [14:02:00] | jdahm: | and they are cheapest.. |
| [14:02:00] | Xoritor: | one other diff |
| [14:02:00] | Xoritor: | the 150 is only supported in the devel version of ivtv (i could be wrong on that) |
| [14:02:00] | jdahm: | mythtv or ivtv? |
| [14:02:00] | Xoritor: | where the 250 (single tuner) and the 350 (dual tuner) |
| [14:03:00] | Xoritor: | mythtv uses ivtv to get the info |
| [14:03:00] | jdahm: | ok |
| [14:03:00] | Xoritor: | ivtv is the kernel module that gets loaded to access the hardware |
| [14:03:00] | jdahm: | alright |
| [14:03:00] | jdahm: | and 150 is a single tuner as well? |
| [14:03:00] | theturtle: | i can't get mythtv to use /opt/kde3/lib64/libkhtml.so |
| [14:03:00] | theturtle: | :/ |
| [14:04:00] | Xoritor: | jdahm, yes the 550 is the same chipset as the 150 with 2 tuners |
| [14:04:00] | Xoritor: | theturtle, are you trying to get it tu sue that when compiling? |
| [14:05:00] | Xoritor: | theturtle, did you add /opt/kde3/lib64 to /etc/ls.so.conf and run ldconfig? |
| [14:05:00] | jdahm: | Xoritor: would an ATI card work like the TV Wonder Pro? (Its not al all-in-wonder) |
| [14:05:00] | Xoritor: | the last part is crucial |
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| [14:05:00] | Xoritor: | your on your own there... ati cards have very poor support in linux |
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| [14:05:00] | jdahm: | I know :P |
| [14:06:00] | Xoritor: | on the order of "if it works its a miracle" |
| [14:06:00] | theturtle: | Xoritor i tried a couple configure options --enable-lib-suffix |
| [14:06:00] | theturtle: | i think i fixed it, but now i've got another problem |
| [14:07:00] | jdahm: | So can anyone else tell me if it only runs under the devel version? |
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| [14:07:00] | Xoritor: | jdahm, there should be a link to the ivtv site off of the mythtv site |
| [14:07:00] | theturtle: | LIBS += -L/opt/kde3/lib64 -lkhtml << this line in mythplugins/mythbrowser/mythbrowser/mythbrowser.pro had no 64 on it |
| [14:08:00] | theturtle: | put the 64 in it, :) |
| [14:08:00] | Xoritor: | jdahm, make sure you DO NOT get the sources for ivtv from sourceforge.net |
| [14:08:00] | jdahm: | hehe alright |
| [14:08:00] | Xoritor: | yep there you go |
| [14:08:00] | theturtle: | ivtv.tv |
| [14:08:00] | jdahm: | Ill probably put gentoo on the machine and then just use the portage version |
| [14:08:00] | Xoritor: | jdahm, theturtle probably has the right address |
| [14:08:00] | Xoritor: | jdahm, nothing wrong with that... i dont use it anymore though |
| [14:08:00] | theturtle: | theres a supported hardware section |
| [14:09:00] | theturtle: | dvdinfo.h:16:32: dvdread/dvd_reader.h: No such file or directory << ? |
| [14:09:00] | theturtle: | the tarball is missing a file? |
| [14:09:00] | Xoritor: | theturtle, you have to have dvdinfo installed |
| [14:09:00] | Xoritor: | err |
| [14:10:00] | Xoritor: | dvdread |
| [14:10:00] | theturtle: | libdvdread i think i have that |
| [14:10:00] | theturtle: | perhaps not the devel |
| [14:10:00] | Xoritor: | http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/ |
| [14:10:00] | Xoritor: | libdvdread yes |
| [14:10:00] | Xoritor: | rpm -qi libdvdread |
| [14:10:00] | theturtle: | apting |
| [14:10:00] | theturtle: | :) |
| [14:10:00] | Xoritor: | i got my rpm from dries |
| [14:11:00] | theturtle: | for libdvdread? |
| [14:11:00] | Xoritor: | yep |
| [14:11:00] | theturtle: | i'm using suse |
| [14:11:00] | Xoritor: | aah... dunno where to get suse rpms anymore... have not installed it in a while |
| [14:11:00] | theturtle: | which has no mythtv 64 rpm :( |
| [14:12:00] | Xoritor: | i hear they are going to actually open source suse professional |
| [14:12:00] | theturtle: | nah its fine, already installed, apt repo had it |
| [14:12:00] | Xoritor: | cool |
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| [14:12:00] | theturtle: | yeah we'll see if thats a good idea, :/ i don't really see the benefit |
| [14:13:00] | theturtle: | hrmm looks like i'm missing another devel package |
| [14:13:00] | theturtle: | libtiff |
| [14:13:00] | Xoritor: | jdahm, the fedora howto guide may help you also... even with gentoo |
| [14:14:00] | Xoritor: | its pretty well written |
| [14:14:00] | Xoritor: | jdahm, i seem to recall there is a gentoo guide on the gentoo site as well |
| [14:14:00] | jdahm: | cool |
| [14:14:00] | theturtle: | if you wanna know what card to get, i believe the pvr-250's are supposed to be rock solid |
| [14:14:00] | theturtle: | altho the 150's are newer |
| [14:15:00] | Xoritor: | the 250s and the 350s should both be rock solid |
| [14:15:00] | Xoritor: | the 150s and 550s are newer... i have a 150 |
| [14:15:00] | theturtle: | i got ivtv installed on a 250 jsut last night without much issue |
| [14:15:00] | Xoritor: | it works like a champ and looks great |
| [14:16:00] | Xoritor: | jdahm, make sure you read the README and INSTALL instructions and replace the modules needed... ie tveeprom |
| [14:16:00] | Xoritor: | ivtv builds new ones that it will use |
| [14:17:00] | theturtle: | after figuring out what the hell i was doing and downloading sources, it was nothing more than make install |
| [14:17:00] | theturtle: | and modprobe ivtv |
| [14:17:00] | Xoritor: | hehe |
| [14:18:00] | jdahm: | heh |
| [14:18:00] | Xoritor: | the learning curve to setting up and installing mythtv is fairly steep, but once you get the procedure down its pretty straigt forward |
| [14:19:00] | Xoritor: | i suggest doing it in a practice run and working out the kinks in your procedure |
| [14:19:00] | Xoritor: | then... redo the whole thing and iron out the wrinkles |
| [14:19:00] | theturtle: | working out my rpm issues was 90% of the config |
| [14:19:00] | theturtle: | i dunno how hard mythtv config is gonnna be other than ./setup really |
| [14:19:00] | Xoritor: | if your like me you will re-redo it just to make sure the cruft is removed |
| [14:20:00] | jdahm: | heh yeah |
| [14:20:00] | Xoritor: | today i am converting my firewall from rhel4 to fc4 |
| [14:20:00] | theturtle: | errr |
| [14:20:00] | theturtle: | why would u do something like that |
| [14:20:00] | theturtle: | :D |
| [14:20:00] | theturtle: | you don't know off hand what cdaudio.h is do ya Xoritor? |
| [14:21:00] | Xoritor: | give me a sec |
| [14:21:00] | theturtle: | i could try the obvious libcdaudio-devel |
| [14:21:00] | Xoritor: | hahahaha |
| [14:21:00] | theturtle: | yep |
| [14:21:00] | Xoritor: | i bet it is |
| [14:21:00] | theturtle: | :D |
| [14:22:00] | Xoritor: | i am updating my locate db right now |
| [14:22:00] | Xoritor: | hence the wait |
| [14:22:00] | Xoritor: | ;-) |
| [14:22:00] | jdahm: | hm I dont think Ill plop down 160 for the PVR-250 but I may get the 150 and hope it works |
| [14:22:00] | theturtle: | hrmm, i bet an organized sys admin has that in a cron job |
| [14:22:00] | theturtle: | glad i'm not one :D |
| [14:22:00] | Xoritor: | jdahm, mine works GREAT |
| [14:22:00] | Xoritor: | theturtle, well... sometimes |
| [14:23:00] | jdahm: | Xoritor: nice |
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| [14:23:00] | jdahm: | saved me some money |
| [14:23:00] | Xoritor: | i dont like to waste cpu cycles updating the db when i can just do it when i need to |
| [14:23:00] | jdahm: | Xoritor: what distro? |
| [14:23:00] | Xoritor: | its a bit of a wait, but then i dont mind waiting a few seconds |
| [14:23:00] | jdahm: | oh your on fedora core I take it |
| [14:23:00] | Xoritor: | i run mostly rhel4 and fc4 these days |
| [14:23:00] | jdahm: | cool |
| [14:24:00] | jdahm: | Xoritor: and whats your CPU speed? |
| [14:24:00] | Xoritor: | i just ditched my slack, suse, and gentoo installs |
| [14:24:00] | Xoritor: | jdahm, what machines |
| [14:24:00] | Xoritor: | ? |
| [14:24:00] | Xoritor: | the mythtv box? |
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| [14:24:00] | jdahm: | yeah |
| [14:24:00] | Xoritor: | 1 of them is a p4 3.0 with 1GB ram |
| [14:24:00] | jdahm: | I need to buy a desktop for this :P |
| [14:25:00] | Xoritor: | the other is a opteron 246 dual with 2 GB ram |
| [14:25:00] | jdahm: | oh |
| [14:25:00] | jdahm: | I be tyou get really good quality with those |
| [14:25:00] | Xoritor: | but thats just what i had around |
| [14:26:00] | jdahm: | Xoritor: what is the minimum you would suggest with a 1 Ghz processor? |
| [14:26:00] | jdahm: | err |
| [14:26:00] | jdahm: | with a PVR-150 |
| [14:27:00] | Xoritor: | depends on what you plan to do |
| [14:27:00] | Xoritor: | are you doing hdtv? |
| [14:27:00] | jdahm: | just watch tv and mess around with linux more... nope |
| [14:27:00] | theturtle: | for just tv watching and video capping, shouldn't need much if your going for a 150 |
| [14:27:00] | Xoritor: | are you planning on ripping tons while watching tv? |
| [14:27:00] | Xoritor: | do you need more than one tuner? |
| [14:27:00] | jdahm: | maybe record daily show :P |
| [14:27:00] | jdahm: | nope |
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| [14:28:00] | Xoritor: | jdahm, then you can get away with something like a via mini-itx system |
| [14:28:00] | Xoritor: | it wont be fast mind you, but it would be cheap |
| [14:28:00] | Xoritor: | ;-) |
| [14:28:00] | Xoritor: | hehe |
| [14:28:00] | theturtle: | yeah, i would think most of the work is done on the 150 |
| [14:28:00] | Xoritor: | if you have an old machine around you could use just about anything |
| [14:28:00] | Xoritor: | yep |
| [14:29:00] | theturtle: | but can u even buy anything new thats un 2.5ghz these days |
| [14:29:00] | theturtle: | :D |
| [14:29:00] | theturtle: | s/un/under |
| [14:29:00] | Xoritor: | 150 does most of the work |
| [14:29:00] | jdahm: | Well Im going to buy parts probably used |
| [14:30:00] | Xoritor: | jdahm, go to the goodwill store and spend about 300 on a system (pretty much any system) and it should work |
| [14:30:00] | Xoritor: | heh |
| [14:30:00] | Xoritor: | i will say this |
| [14:30:00] | Xoritor: | the more ram you have the better |
| [14:30:00] | jdahm: | Xoritor: yeah I was going to go to a place nearby that sells used computer :P |
| [14:30:00] | Xoritor: | and make sure you hae enough space to hold your info |
| [14:31:00] | jdahm: | s |
| [14:31:00] | theturtle: | yeah get something with sata |
| [14:31:00] | jdahm: | alright I think 160 GB is enough |
| [14:31:00] | theturtle: | and a big case |
| [14:31:00] | theturtle: | and like 12 320gb wd's |
| [14:31:00] | theturtle: | Lol |
| [14:31:00] | REyM]: | ^_^ lol |
| [14:31:00] | rtsai: | how much $$ is mythtv setup consulting worth (say your teenage kid does it for your neighbor or something). I'm really obliquely asking how much my parents should pay some friend's kid to set up their Windoze computer. |
| [14:32:00] | Xoritor: | heh |
| [14:32:00] | jdahm: | lol |
| [14:32:00] | Xoritor: | i am using gfs to cluster my filesystems back to a central system |
| [14:32:00] | REyM]: | lol, last one like 10 euro, but a properly setup mythtvbox some more as that can be some hardass shit |
| [14:33:00] | robin|online: | ok, I know the problem of the blur, but not how to fix it.. it looks like I have two images at one time on the screen.. only at slightly differents heights. |
| [14:33:00] | Xoritor: | right now i have about 1.5 TB of storage and its about 60% used |
| [14:33:00] | jdahm: | Xoritor: :O |
| [14:34:00] | jdahm: | I think Im going to take the dive and build a computer |
| [14:34:00] | Xoritor: | cool |
| [14:34:00] | jdahm: | with better parts over a little period of time |
| [14:34:00] | Xoritor: | just make sure you start with a decent mobo |
| [14:34:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: tv_grab_nl_gert already works ? |
| [14:34:00] | Xoritor: | one that is more "futute compatible" |
| [14:34:00] | jdahm: | for the most part I have bought used ones and had to jerry rig stuff for them to work right :P |
| [14:34:00] | Xoritor: | but not so new that stuff does not work |
| [14:34:00] | Xoritor: | heh |
| [14:37:00] | theturtle: | Xoritor GFS , cluster ? sounds cool, but umm what did u just say? |
| [14:37:00] | REyM]: | robin|online nope, can't get to work :( |
| [14:38:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: hmm too bad, maybe if you use the new xmltv, you won't need the tv_grab_nl_gert |
| [14:38:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: what PVR are u using ? |
| [14:38:00] | REyM]: | no, but then I can olny have 2days ahead :( |
| [14:38:00] | REyM]: | what, my tvcard? |
| [14:38:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: I read that that was fixed in cvs |
| [14:38:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: PVR-150 ? |
| [14:38:00] | Xoritor: | i said i have all of my disks in one machine and i am exporting the logical volumes from lvm over the gigE to the other machines and mouting them. so that all of my machines have access (read and write) to the data |
| [14:38:00] | REyM]: | yes |
| [14:39:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: you have good quality output ? |
| [14:39:00] | Xoritor: | gfs (global file system) |
| [14:39:00] | Xoritor: | it gives me also about 2x the performance of nfs |
| [14:39:00] | REyM]: | robin|online still busy getting the channels nice, only than I will try to finetune |
| [14:39:00] | REyM]: | but for now it seems quite ok |
| [14:40:00] | Xoritor: | theturtle, not to mention if something goes wrong... |
| [14:40:00] | Xoritor: | theturtle, if my "backend" goes down the nodes will cache the data until its back up then write it to the disk |
| [14:40:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: hmm, right. Well the channels works okay, except NL1–3 because they are not in the pal-europe-west freq table, strange.. Anyways the picture quality is still not good enough.. It looks I have two pictures at once, only one little bit lower.. So I see double :S |
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| [14:41:00] | Xoritor: | if one node goes down the others hold the journal info for the failed node until it comes back up and then will replay it so there is no data loss |
| [14:41:00] | REyM]: | robin|online I got 1 and 3 on respectivaly e8 & e9 |
| [14:42:00] | REyM]: | but I don't have that problem with double seeing |
| [14:42:00] | Xoritor: | http://gfs.wikidev.net/Main_Page |
| [14:42:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: what are u DNR settings.. ? |
| [14:42:00] | Xoritor: | http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/gfs/ |
| [14:42:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: if look at ivtvctl -a |
| [14:43:00] | Xoritor: | http://opengfs.sourceforge.net/ |
| [14:43:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: and gop |
| [14:43:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: and bframes |
| [14:44:00] | REyM]: | bframes=3 dnr=0 gop=1 |
| [14:44:00] | REyM]: | but I haven't been busy with finetuning that |
| [14:45:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: I understand, but maybe I had some wrong values.. what is the framespergop value (I have 12) |
| [14:45:00] | REyM]: | me two |
| [14:45:00] | REyM]: | lol |
| [14:45:00] | REyM]: | me too I mean |
| [14:46:00] | robin|online: | :D |
| [14:47:00] | theturtle: | Xoritor how do you have the volumes mounted on the client machines? |
| [14:47:00] | theturtle: | as /home or ? |
| [14:47:00] | robin|online: | it seems i'm the only onte with this problem ;( |
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| [14:49:00] | theturtle: | offtopic but anyone know a good deal on a video2vga convertor box? |
| [14:51:00] | robin|online: | Ok i'm no the only one: http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=4372 |
| [14:51:00] | robin|online: | it seems the drivers are buggy |
| [14:51:00] | robin|online: | :S |
| [14:51:00] | robin|online: | but that is MCE |
| [14:51:00] | robin|online: | so the ROMs could be buggy causing that effect? |
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| [14:51:00] | REyM]: | hmmm, wich ivtv version do you have? |
| [14:51:00] | REyM]: | I have a pvr-150MCE |
| [14:52:00] | robin|online: | i have pvr-150 (no mce) |
| [14:52:00] | Xoritor: | theturtle, i have them mount as /mnt/mythtv for mythtv |
| [14:52:00] | robin|online: | ivtv: version 0.3.7 (b) loading |
| [14:52:00] | Xoritor: | ;-) |
| [14:52:00] | REyM]: | got that version too, I heard that was better for the pvr150/500 |
| [14:52:00] | REyM]: | robin|online you got the latest roms or not? |
| [14:52:00] | robin|online: | the ppl in the thread are refering the problme with XP MCE.. |
| [14:53:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: yes, but they are pre-release :S |
| [14:53:00] | REyM]: | hmm :/ |
| [14:53:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: and those ROMs are causing it probably |
| [14:53:00] | REyM]: | I think there lays the problem |
| [14:53:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: can i use your roms? |
| [14:53:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: or are thos not compatible |
| [14:53:00] | REyM]: | pvr150_22_0_30_23159 |
| [14:53:00] | REyM]: | I got that thing |
| [14:54:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: me2 |
| [14:54:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: :S |
| [14:54:00] | REyM]: | :/ |
| [14:54:00] | robin|online: | :\ |
| [14:54:00] | REyM]: | that sux |
| [14:55:00] | robin|online: | I will take a look at the cdrom |
| [14:55:00] | p1tst0p: | Hi, could anyone suggest a remote control to use with my Myth frontend ? theres no tv card in the box, as it is using a network stream from a Dbox2 to pick up tv. thanks ! |
| [14:55:00] | robin|online: | maybe some old drivers works better |
| [14:55:00] | REyM]: | p1tst0p what about lirc? |
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| [14:56:00] | REyM]: | www.lirc.org |
| [14:56:00] | REyM]: | you can build a receiver very easily |
| [14:57:00] | p1tst0p: | REyM], hmm yeh iv looked at LIRC, but its difficult working out what parts to use in the uk |
| [14:57:00] | p1tst0p: | using the keyboard shortcuts is winding me up ahah.. but i have a One For All remote, so LIRC would be the best bet.. but hmm i dunno |
| [14:58:00] | REyM]: | what do you mean, its not like the UK needs different receivers |
| [14:58:00] | REyM]: | http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~tmccoy/lirc/LIRC_serial_rx1.png build that one |
| [14:59:00] | theturtle: | omg! mythplugins compiled! |
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| [15:00:00] | p1tst0p: | no i mean, when i look on the parts list, and search my local store for the parts, they dont have them (maplin.co.uk) |
| [15:00:00] | REyM]: | hmm, they are real basic :/ |
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| [15:06:00] | juski: | can anyone lend me hand with patching mythtv source? |
| [15:06:00] | juski: | (please) |
| [15:07:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: ok, i'm now trying 2.0.34.23172 |
| [15:08:00] | p1tst0p: | REyM], i can prolly get all those parts, except the IR Receiver, and the Voltage Regulator.. i assume its ok to just substitue them with something else ? |
| [15:08:00] | stoffel: | juski: metaquestion |
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| [15:09:00] | REyM]: | p1tst0p well, I am not that good at electroncis, but look at the documentation, I know it is in there where I saw a list of working receivers |
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| [15:10:00] | stoffel: | p1tst0p: also look at http://www.lirc.org/receivers.html |
| [15:10:00] | robin|online: | ok question |
| [15:10:00] | robin|online: | in the new drivers there are 3 roms :D |
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| [15:11:00] | robin|online: | HcwMakoC HcwMakoB and HcwFalcn.rom |
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| [15:11:00] | robin|online: | which one do i need for desc and enc |
| [15:12:00] | down_below: | i just recompiled mythtv with option dvb_using_eit, but i dont get a config in mythtv-setup to enable this for a channel. anyone an idea why? |
| [15:13:00] | robbinsc: | if I'm having tuning issues (bad channel tuning), is this the place to be, or is the ivtv-dev place to go? |
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| [15:23:00] | down_below: | here is my config.mak http://www.nopaste.info/index.php?id=874e5fdc50 |
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| [15:37:00] | robin|online: | YES YES YES |
| [15:37:00] | robin|online: | it works |
| [15:37:00] | robin|online: | wohoo |
| [15:37:00] | down_below: | 0o |
| [15:37:00] | robin|online: | \o/ |
| [15:39:00] | robin|online: | only it is not that sharp |
| [15:39:00] | robin|online: | but I read that there are some hardware issues with the PAL version of the PVR-150 :/ |
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| [15:45:00] | p1tst0p: | REyM], ended up just purchasing one of these ! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt . . . AIT&rd=1 |
| [15:47:00] | theturtle: | what are some big brick & mortal computer supply companies |
| [15:50:00] | REyM]: | ah, ok, that is a nice price :) |
| [15:51:00] | down_below: | http://cgi.ebay.de/ir-bEn-Multimedia-PC-Fernb . . . cmdZViewItem |
| [15:51:00] | down_below: | ^^ THIS is a nice price i think |
| [15:53:00] | REyM]: | that looks nice too :] |
| [15:53:00] | p1tst0p: | doesnt say europe delivery, but yeh looks cool.. hopefully my One For All kameleon URC-8040 will work ! |
| [15:54:00] | down_below: | p1tst0p: germany delivery is all i need ;) |
| [15:55:00] | p1tst0p: | eheh, im in the UK.. you in germany then i guess |
| [15:55:00] | down_below: | yeag |
| [15:55:00] | p1tst0p: | you got a dbox ? |
| [15:55:00] | down_below: | nope :( |
| [15:56:00] | down_below: | y? |
| [15:56:00] | theturtle: | dvb is for lusers |
| [15:56:00] | p1tst0p: | ah, i patched my MythTV with the awesome patch that Levon wrote, to use a Dbox as a input source in Myth |
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| [15:57:00] | down_below: | id be lucky if i only could watch tv ;) |
| [15:59:00] | down_below: | << afk |
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| [16:03:00] | p1tst0p: | heres a question, if i have 2 dbox's defined as capture cards.. how do you tell one to record.. so you can continue to watch another program using the other capture device ? |
| [16:04:00] | laga: | p1tst0p: umm, well. schedule a recording |
| [16:04:00] | laga: | p1tst0p: and watch tv. |
| [16:04:00] | REyM]: | p1tst0p can't you tell mythtv wich tuner it should use? |
| [16:04:00] | p1tst0p: | laga, does it automatically then use the other capture device ? |
| [16:05:00] | laga: | p1tst0p: i think so. if the channel is available on the other capture device |
| [16:06:00] | p1tst0p: | do i need to set an input preference in the input connections ? |
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| [16:10:00] | theturtle: | can ud o realtime passthru with a capture card? |
| [16:10:00] | theturtle: | even maybe a usb2 one |
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| [16:15:00] | theturtle: | i'd like to get a usb2 capture card for myth but as a bonus, be able to play xbox on my monitor with it as well |
| [16:15:00] | theturtle: | just not sure if it will do that, display inputs on monitor in real time for the xbox |
| [16:17:00] | theturtle: | sure everyone leaves now :D |
| [16:18:00] | levon: | p1tst0p, just do it. It's all well supported. myth chooses the inputs automatically. I have 2 dboxes myself, too. I can use any combination of watch/record,record/record,watch/watch |
| [16:19:00] | levon: | I just hope they commit the patch soon, I've been maintaining it for months now and every now and then, they change the db version, which renders the patch non-workey (of course) |
| [16:21:00] | Chutt: | taylor kept saying he'd apply it |
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| [16:21:00] | levon: | yupp, he did, but apparently he has lots of work at his hands... |
| [16:23:00] | theturtle: | well if they commit it, that just means when they change something, they will have to fix it |
| [16:23:00] | theturtle: | why commit it when you keep changing it already |
| [16:23:00] | theturtle: | :) |
| [16:25:00] | levon: | yupp, but everyone fixes the db versioning stuff when adding new columns/tables. |
| [16:25:00] | levon: | thats what introduces the "problems" |
| [16:26:00] | levon: | and since neither knows what version the others work on, the db versions will conflict |
| [16:26:00] | ** levon shakes dopester ** | |
| [16:28:00] | theturtle: | levon – u know the answer to my question? |
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| [16:29:00] | levon: | theturtle, sorry, I must admit I didn't read your question |
| [16:29:00] | ** dopester wakes up ** | |
| [16:29:00] | theturtle: | say i take mpeg2 capture card, can i use that to output to an lcd for say console |
| [16:29:00] | theturtle: | xbox 2 capture card 2 pc 2 lcd |
| [16:30:00] | theturtle: | for eg |
| [16:30:00] | theturtle: | i mean you have tv in real time, only thing i'm not sure of , is if there will be lag |
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| [16:31:00] | theturtle: | nothing to do with mythtv so ignore me :D |
| [16:31:00] | theturtle: | just curious, as i'd like to get something that would do both if its possible , instead of hselling out for a scan convertor |
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| [16:38:00] | Chutt: | hrmph |
| [16:39:00] | Chutt: | trac isn't sending the text for new tickets |
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| [16:41:00] | REyM]: | robin|online how did you fix your problems? |
| [16:42:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: latest driver I found here: http://www.shspvr.com/smf/index.php?topic=8389.0 |
| [16:42:00] | REyM]: | you installed those roms and it worked? |
| [16:42:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: It contains 3 roms :), but I used the C one, which correct the problem |
| [16:43:00] | REyM]: | ok |
| [16:43:00] | robin|online: | REyM]: Now it is time to get my remote working.. |
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| [16:45:00] | robin|online: | on that page they are refering to the Comb filter. But I have no idea how to enable/disable it in Linux. It should increase the quality. |
| [16:47:00] | robin|online: | but it is possible I have enabled it with the C firm.. and the B is the one without it.. |
| [16:48:00] | REyM]: | robin|online did you had to rename the firmware or not? |
| [16:49:00] | robin|online: | yes |
| [16:49:00] | REyM]: | the C to A? |
| [16:49:00] | robin|online: | yes |
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| [16:50:00] | robin|online: | after that, i reboot, than turn off my PC for 30 secs (complete POWER-OFF) and than turn on |
| [16:50:00] | robin|online: | it seems you have to power off, at least I had to.. |
| [16:50:00] | REyM]: | hmm, ok |
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| [16:57:00] | REyM]: | :/ switching in mythtv sucks :/ |
| [16:57:00] | Cromz: | jams, you play coh? cause I saw someone online with the nick Jamz thought damn wouldn't that be funny.. |
| [16:58:00] | Cromz: | REyM], hey.. I love myth.. so does my wife the reason I switched to linux and away from winblows. |
| [16:58:00] | Cromz: | :> |
| [16:58:00] | jams: | not me |
| [16:58:00] | Cromz: | jams, doh.. lol ok.. was wondering |
| [16:58:00] | REyM]: | Cromz it is just my settings somewhere |
| [16:59:00] | Cromz: | oh jams I'm installing a cooler master aquagate in this today.. hopefully I'll be back in a few hours. LOL |
| [17:03:00] | Cromz: | myth is a self achievment project. once you get it.. then you'll be all hyped and be able to say I did it! w00ts! neener neener :> welp c'ya's later.. better get started on the install ugh.. lol |
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| [17:20:00] | REyM]: | hmm, massive ivtv overflow :/ |
| [17:20:00] | REyM]: | *irq |
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| [17:41:00] | grusy: | hi, anyone in here who has running visualization in mythmusic on debian sarge? |
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| [18:18:00] | juski: | f |
| [18:18:00] | juski: | oops |
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| [18:23:00] | spiderworm: | hi all, anyone know how to add music to myth music? |
| [18:23:00] | spiderworm: | (cant figure it out!) |
| [18:23:00] | spiderworm: | setup > music tools > add music... ? |
| [18:23:00] | spiderworm: | er, select music i mean |
| [18:24:00] | REyM]: | hmm, mythtv keeps setting the ivtv settings to 480x480 |
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| [18:36:00] | REyM]: | where do I have to setup the resolution of mythtv while wtching? it keeps setting it down to 480x480 |
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| [18:37:00] | stoffel: | REyM]: change the live-tv recording profiles |
| [18:37:00] | REyM]: | where? |
| [18:38:00] | stoffel: | in the frontend |
| [18:40:00] | REyM]: | yeah, but wich section? |
| [18:41:00] | REyM]: | ah |
| [18:41:00] | REyM]: | I got it |
| [18:41:00] | Beirdo: | yay! |
| [18:41:00] | ** Beirdo liberated this laptop from the evils of Win98SE ** | |
| [18:42:00] | Beirdo: | OMG, I'm actually running X for something other than MythTV |
| [18:45:00] | REyM]: | Beirdo what distro are you running? |
| [18:45:00] | Beirdo: | Ubuntu Hoary |
| [18:45:00] | jonK: | woot! |
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| [18:46:00] | Beirdo: | now to build me a frontend (just for the hell of it) |
| [18:47:00] | jonK: | I'm researching renting a car in cancun |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | this is a Thinkpad T22 (P3–900 Mobile) |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | so the frontend might suck a bit |
| [18:50:00] | Beirdo: | installing ccache first :) |
| [18:51:00] | laga: | distcc :) |
| [18:51:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [18:51:00] | Beirdo: | it's a PITA |
| [18:51:00] | Beirdo: | half my machines are AMD64, half x86 |
| [18:51:00] | laga: | really? why is that? i think it's very easy to use...ok, well then ;) |
| [18:51:00] | Beirdo: | and distcc in that environment is painful |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | if they are all the same architecture, it's great |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | but the machines I'd want to offload compiling onto are a different arch |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | apt-get install gcc |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | that might help |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | and g++ |
| [18:53:00] | Quiote: | whats up Beirdo |
| [18:53:00] | Quiote: | anythign new in the world of mythtv? |
| [18:54:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno, I'm just building on my laptop right now |
| [19:03:00] | jonK: | I think I should rent a jeep |
| [19:06:00] | Quiote: | Beirdo: any idea why only 5xxx nvidia drivers will work with my card. I have the geforce4 mx4000 , whenever i use the newer drivers X will come up on my CRT, but if i try to boot X with my crt and svideo connected it crashes |
| [19:06:00] | Quiote: | if i boot X with the newer drivers and just my SVIDEO connected it works |
| [19:06:00] | Quiote: | but if i try to boot X with both connected it crashes |
| [19:11:00] | down_below: | i just recompiled mythtv with option dvb_using_eit, but i dont get a config in mythtv-setup to enable this for a channel. anyone an idea why? |
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| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | I don't use nvidia cards in my PVR, no idea |
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| [19:23:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, what do you use for tv-out? |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | ATI Radeon 9600 Pro |
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| [19:24:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, hows that gpu stuff going |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | it isn't |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | I have like no spare time |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | women have that effect :) |
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| [19:28:00] | Cromz: | w00ts.. that was easier then I thought. I is now liquid cooled, and ready to rock and roll |
| [19:29:00] | ** Beirdo pours another bucket of Gatorade on Cromz ** | |
| [19:29:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [19:29:00] | Cromz: | sup Beirdo |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | not much |
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| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | compiling a frontend on my laptop |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | and I'll be heading out in a few |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | not much :) |
| [19:30:00] | Cromz: | heh |
| [19:30:00] | Cromz: | that aquagate was simple and it works :) $119 us.. to be liquid cooled.. gotta love it.. |
| [19:31:00] | hadees: | has anyone heard of 60hz interference comming off an nvidia graphics card? i can't seem to figure the source of it |
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| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | likely ground loops |
| [19:31:00] | hadees: | getting this lines moving up my TV |
| [19:32:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, in the wire? |
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| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | if the TV and the computer aren't grounded to the same thing, it can happen |
| [19:32:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, that might be it |
| [19:32:00] | hadees: | i have my htpc on my coffe table while rebuilding it |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | and rebuilding on my PVR just in case too :) |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | SVN gooood. |
| [19:37:00] | juski: | I sometimes get small shocks from my SCART leads |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [19:38:00] | juski: | have to be careful hooking equipment up to TVs |
| [19:38:00] | juski: | damn double-insulated televisions |
| [19:38:00] | hadees: | anyone see the systm episode on making cables? |
| [19:39:00] | laga: | w00t. didn't know that systm has new stuff |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | no, but I'm sure it was crap :) |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:39:00] | juski: | bless em |
| [19:39:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, nah it was pretty good, but it wasn't really them, they got an expert |
| [19:39:00] | juski: | they built a mythtv system in like 10 minutes lol |
| [19:39:00] | hadees: | juski, yeah and left out a ton of stuff |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | it takes me like 3h to build a PC |
| [19:40:00] | juski: | I'm a fine one to talk |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | but I tie-wrap the fuck outta it |
| [19:40:00] | hadees: | what i didn't like was they used a damn bttv card, hardly anyone does that |
| [19:40:00] | juski: | tried compiling myth from source today for the 1st time |
| [19:40:00] | juski: | and failed miserably |
| [19:40:00] | hadees: | juski, sometimes the source won't compile |
| [19:41:00] | juski: | it was the latest from svn |
| [19:41:00] | hadees: | hence you shouldn't use cvs unless you have a good reason |
| [19:41:00] | juski: | I wanted to try the dbox patch |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | you shouldn't use CVS at all |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | you should use SVN |
| [19:41:00] | hadees: | oh yeah they switched |
| [19:41:00] | hadees: | what ever all the same |
| [19:41:00] | Xoritor: | hmmm... is mythweb slow for anyone else? |
| [19:41:00] | juski: | problem being that the patch was way too old |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | and still some of the developers aren't testing 100% before checking in, so expect occasional compile failures |
| [19:42:00] | juski: | Xoritor: sometimes a bit slow to view the recorded programs page |
| [19:42:00] | laga: | juski: levons newest patch works fine |
| [19:42:00] | juski: | nothing for a few seconds, then ping! |
| [19:42:00] | Xoritor: | its slow as dirt for me over gigE to pull up the "listings" |
| [19:42:00] | juski: | Xoritor... you not using IE I hope ;) |
| [19:43:00] | Xoritor: | firefox on fc4 |
| [19:43:00] | Xoritor: | x86_64 |
| [19:43:00] | juski: | laga: where can I get the patch? the latest one in the dev list archive is 2005-02–06 |
| [19:43:00] | laga: | juski: ticket #192 in trac |
| [19:44:00] | juski: | okees |
| [19:44:00] | Beirdo: | NP: Metallica – Creeping Death |
| [19:46:00] | juski: | I dunno. I waited 2 weeks for the dbox to arrive. and it took but 30 minutes to get it up & running |
| [19:46:00] | Xoritor: | it could just be that i have like 100s of channels |
| [19:47:00] | ** juski mutters something about using compression in apache ** | |
| [19:48:00] | juski: | laga: you happen to know if this latest patch works with Sportster? |
| [19:48:00] | Xoritor: | ok this is odd... i have about 50 jobs in the queue |
| [19:49:00] | juski: | Xoritor: have you enabled job running? |
| [19:50:00] | juski: | if it's not enabled the jobs will just stack up |
| [19:50:00] | Xoritor: | i thought i had |
| [19:50:00] | ** Xoritor goes off to check again ** | |
| [19:51:00] | laga: | juski: why would you want to use sportster? |
| [19:51:00] | juski: | laga: I have little choice |
| [19:51:00] | juski: | reason #1 is I like the UI in English |
| [19:51:00] | laga: | juski: softcam? |
| [19:51:00] | juski: | yep |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | no softcam here, please |
| [19:52:00] | ** juski gets ready for a slap ** | |
| [19:52:00] | laga: | Beirdo: ack |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | don't make me get the trout |
| [19:52:00] | laga: | juski: i dont know anything about sportster/softcam, and i don't want to know ;) |
| [19:52:00] | juski: | np |
| [19:52:00] | juski: | I'm not using it to get anything I haven't paid for |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | don't care :) |
| [19:53:00] | juski: | okees |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | it's illegal in many places, best to avoid discussing it completely |
| [19:54:00] | Xoritor: | should i enable all 4 "Run user job #" things? |
| [19:54:00] | juski: | and of course any association with mythtv will be a REALLY bad thing |
| [19:54:00] | Xoritor: | is that what i need to do... |
| [19:54:00] | ** Xoritor forgets ** | |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | juski: precisely |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:54:00] | juski: | Xoritor: if they're user jobs, yes |
| [19:54:00] | juski: | but if they're system jobs – like auto transcode/commflag.... |
| [19:55:00] | Xoritor: | auto transcode after recording? |
| [19:55:00] | juski: | yes |
| [19:55:00] | juski: | I forget the entry on the setup page |
| [19:55:00] | Xoritor: | mpeg4 better than rtjpeg or whatever it is? |
| [19:56:00] | Xoritor: | yea i have that on too |
| [19:56:00] | juski: | something like 'run jobs automatically' |
| [19:56:00] | juski: | Xoritor: so maybe the problem is that the jobs are crapping out for some reason |
| [19:56:00] | juski: | look in the log entries |
| [20:01:00] | Xoritor: | nothing about them dying |
| [20:01:00] | juski: | what the? my mythtv source, just grabbed from svn is in /downloads/mythtv |
| [20:02:00] | juski: | I bunzipped the patch file and ran patch -p0 < patchfilename |
| [20:02:00] | juski: | from /downloads |
| [20:02:00] | juski: | and it complains |
| [20:03:00] | juski: | sorted |
| [20:03:00] | juski: | wrong source dir name |
| [20:04:00] | NightBird: | "Lets start all over again" "And find new ways to shame her!" |
| [20:05:00] | hadees: | so recnetly i have seen alot of pvr150 problems |
| [20:05:00] | hadees: | is that because the pvr150 still is kind of unsupported or people are idiots |
| [20:06:00] | hadees: | becasue i want to buy a card that will be as easy to setup as my pvr250 |
| [20:06:00] | juski: | that's an open question, hadees |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | likely the latter |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | but who knows |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, I'm off |
| [20:07:00] | juski: | bye for now Beirdo |
| [20:07:00] | juski: | have fun ;) |
| [20:07:00] | juski: | hey I'll be able to play with the new UI stuff with this build (if it works) won't I? |
| [20:08:00] | juski: | (or at least see the demo) |
| [20:11:00] | rtsai: | juski: for that patch, "cd mythtv" and then "patch -p1 < patch" |
| [20:12:00] | rtsai: | juski: his directories are named differently; the "-p1" tells patch to skip the first path component |
| [20:12:00] | juski: | ahh |
| [20:12:00] | juski: | I renamed the source directory |
| [20:12:00] | juski: | that should be the same, yes? |
| [20:12:00] | rtsai: | yes |
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| [20:13:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [20:14:00] | juski: | cool. thanks rtsai |
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| [20:28:00] | juski: | Xoritor: any suspicions about what's going wrong? |
| [20:28:00] | juski: | what are the jobs lying around in the queue anyway? |
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| [20:46:00] | robin|online: | Is there an solution for the problem with channel switching and seeking, with XVMC ? |
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| [20:53:00] | sphing: | anyone here got a software raid? |
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| [21:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, are you around? |
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| [21:35:00] | xris: | blue angels flying RIGHT OVER my house. over and over... |
| [21:35:00] | xris: | should go sit outside and watch |
| [21:39:00] | robin|online: | Beirdo: about the distcc and amd64/x86 you can use cross compilers right :) ? |
| [21:41:00] | xris: | oooh, good eats is going HD. |
| [21:41:00] | xris: | not that I can receive it. |
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| [21:50:00] | juski: | okees |
| [21:50:00] | juski: | I compiled svn mythtv |
| [21:51:00] | juski: | and I don't have the binaries anywhere I'd expect to find them.. |
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| [21:51:00] | xris: | make install ? |
| [21:52:00] | juski: | tada |
| [21:52:00] | juski: | I was following the howto |
| [21:52:00] | juski: | it didn't say 'make install' there |
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| [21:53:00] | juski: | says 'nothing to be done for install' |
| [21:55:00] | sphing: | xris: good eats.... like alton brown? |
| [21:55:00] | xris: | sphing: yes |
| [21:55:00] | xris: | http://www.altonbrown.com/pages/rants.html |
| [21:57:00] | sphing: | he never updates that page |
| [21:58:00] | juski: | looks like mythuitest is working at any rate |
| [21:59:00] | juski: | (kinda) |
| [21:59:00] | Quiote: | mythuitest? |
| [22:00:00] | xris: | sphing: except that he just did |
| [22:00:00] | xris: | people have been complaining about "the look" of the latest season |
| [22:01:00] | juski: | mythuitest is a program to show off the UI improvements coming in 0.19 |
| [22:01:00] | Quiote: | juski: got a link? |
| [22:01:00] | juski: | look in SVN, Quiote |
| [22:01:00] | Quiote: | svn? |
| [22:02:00] | juski: | hehe. If you have to ask.. don't even go there. I'm starting to wish I didn't |
| [22:02:00] | Quiote: | linky? |
| [22:04:00] | juski: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . s/mythuitest |
| [22:04:00] | juski: | not much in the way of descriptions of what it does |
| [22:04:00] | juski: | doesn't work properly on my half-assed compilation |
| [22:05:00] | Quiote: | gracias |
| [22:05:00] | juski: | I've heard a rumour it's all about openGL... maybe animated menus or something... all very vague |
| [22:09:00] | juski: | if you take a look here: http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . st/test1.cpp |
| [22:09:00] | juski: | and read the text it'll give you an idea |
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| [22:43:00] | Randall: | Anyone use the minimalist-wide theme? |
| [22:43:00] | Randall: | I'm missing icons and losing text when I scroll around. |
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| [22:50:00] | andkore: | ok, i've searched pretty extensively on this and i still can't find the chipset of the avertv card |
| [22:51:00] | andkore: | its just the plain ol' "Avertv 'Desktop TV PVR'" |
| [22:51:00] | andkore: | thats what it says on the box |
| [22:51:00] | andkore: | and 'cause its old its been hard to find information |
| [22:51:00] | Randall: | andkore: Can you open the box? |
| [22:51:00] | andkore: | Randall, i'm already using it |
| [22:51:00] | andkore: | hehe |
| [22:51:00] | andkore: | its old |
| [22:52:00] | andkore: | i've been using it on windows |
| [22:52:00] | Randall: | andkore: Can you look at the card? |
| [22:52:00] | andkore: | (i have 2 linux boxes and one windows) |
| [22:52:00] | andkore: | the windows one is the 'family' computer |
| [22:52:00] | andkore: | dont worry :P |
| [22:52:00] | andkore: | ok i will |
| [22:53:00] | Randall: | You could always boot linux on a knoppix cd and see what it is. |
| [22:53:00] | andkore: | yeah |
| [22:53:00] | andkore: | the frustrating thing is that i had found some sort of list that i think had it a few years ago |
| [22:53:00] | andkore: | well 1 or 2 or so |
| [22:54:00] | andkore: | but now 'cause there are new versions of it out its hard to find stuff for the old one |
| [22:54:00] | andkore: | i always hate to plain out ask sorry :P |
| [22:56:00] | andkore: | hmm, well my bro' is watching something now and i can't really see the 'top' of the card 'cause it doesn't face up |
| [22:56:00] | andkore: | i'll look later |
| [22:56:00] | andkore: | its so irritating |
| [22:56:00] | andkore: | the box is so uninformative |
| [22:57:00] | juski: | Randall: I've tried the minimalist-wide theme – had some issues with it like you have |
| [22:57:00] | andkore: | as is the manual |
| [22:58:00] | REyM]: | I don't get it, mythtv causes the ivtv module to produce errors irg overflow errors. but when I just use mplayer to view /dev/video0 it deosn't |
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| [23:08:00] | charlesv: | man you know what would be sweet |
| [23:09:00] | fatmatt: | anyone know how I can use cron to start screen? |
| [23:09:00] | charlesv: | if someone wrote driver support for one of the usb hdtv tuners for xbox-linux |
| [23:09:00] | charlesv: | making a mythtv front/backend for whatever an xbox and the tuner would cost |
| [23:09:00] | charlesv: | though i think i remember reading an xbox won't play back full rez transport streams as is |
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| [23:10:00] | rajat: | Hey how's everyone doing? |
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| [23:13:00] | rajat: | Could anyone help me out with Lirc |
| [23:13:00] | rajat: | I think I followed the directions right from the wilsonet guide |
| [23:13:00] | rajat: | But running irw doesn't do anything |
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| [23:17:00] | rajat: | Anyone around? |
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| [23:21:00] | Randall: | juski: Find any other wide themes? |
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| [23:34:00] | rajat: | Could someone please help me with lirc? |
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| [23:54:00] | k-man: | morning all |
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| [23:57:00] | anax: | hello |
| [23:58:00] | juski: | randall: I don't know of any other wide themes |
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| [23:58:00] | juski: | but I can live with the aspect ratio of buttons being wrong |
| [23:58:00] | juski: | doh |
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| [23:59:00] | anax: | is configuring myth and all the other packages very hard for an absolute mythtv-noob? |
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