| Wednesday, July 20th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | MonMotha: | I thought you said mythvideo was not involved... |
| [00:00:00] | Chutt: | This is the command used for any file that the extension is not specifically defined. You may also enter the name of one of the playback plugins such as 'Internal'. |
| [00:00:00] | Chutt: | Chutt or just could use mythvideo with the internal player turned on |
| [00:00:00] | Chutt: | no, i said that |
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| [00:01:00] | MonMotha: | fuck you all |
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| [00:02:00] | juski: | that's nice |
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| [00:03:00] | ** juski wanders off to find out how to use svn or whatever ** | |
| [00:04:00] | Chutt: | cvs.mythtv.org, info on the page |
| [00:05:00] | ** xris once again thanks Chutt for svn+trac.. :) ** | |
| [00:05:00] | jonK: | anyone aware of mythmusic being broken, or is it just me |
| [00:05:00] | Chutt: | trac needs bug activity graphs |
| [00:05:00] | xris: | Chutt: needs a lot of things. |
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| [00:06:00] | juski: | Chutt: thanks |
| [00:06:00] | stoffel: | jonK: broken how? it works for me |
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| [00:06:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [00:06:00] | ** xris pokes Beirdo.. you home yet? ** | |
| [00:07:00] | Chutt: | mythmusic's working fine for me at the moment |
| [00:07:00] | jonK: | latest svn build breaks on avfdecoder.cpp |
| [00:07:00] | Chutt: | it _was_ broken for a short time last night, though |
| [00:07:00] | Chutt: | you don't have the lastest myth installed, like the commit messages said |
| [00:08:00] | jonK: | "latest myth"? |
| [00:08:00] | Chutt: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/6868 |
| [00:08:00] | Chutt: | Message: |
| [00:08:00] | Chutt: | Compile fixes due to recent ffmpeg changes (r6861), requires r6867 mythtv to be installed. |
| [00:08:00] | Chutt: | i don't know if i can make it any clearer than that |
| [00:09:00] | jonK: | you can't and nor need you, I have 6877 |
| [00:09:00] | Chutt: | installed? |
| [00:09:00] | jonK: | thought so, but will make sure |
| [00:09:00] | juski: | laga: would that patch work with 0.18.1 ? |
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| [00:10:00] | jonK: | thanks... thought I had it installed |
| [00:12:00] | laga: | juski: try it ;) |
| [00:13:00] | juski: | will do laga.. when the box arrives (grrrr) |
| [00:13:00] | juski: | if it's not here by Friday I'm gonna send the boys round |
| [00:15:00] | laga: | heh |
| [00:15:00] | jonK: | guy wiht names like "tiny"? |
| [00:16:00] | juski: | not just my box I'm waiting for – friends from work have chipped in too so we save on shipping costs |
| [00:16:00] | juski: | jonK: yeah – do they still let people on planes in they're carrying baseball bats? |
| [00:16:00] | juski: | *if* not 'in' |
| [00:17:00] | Chutt: | argh |
| [00:17:00] | Chutt: | i hate it when people make tarballs that extract into the current directory |
| [00:18:00] | xris: | Chutt: blech, that sucks. |
| [00:18:00] | juski: | maybe it should be called 'hairball' instead then, Chutt |
| [00:21:00] | laga is now known as wolfang | |
| [00:21:00] | wolfang is now known as wolfgang | |
| [00:22:00] | juski: | zoiks. there's a web configurator for nvidia stuff now. expect more pleas for help getting TV outputs working again very soon |
| [00:22:00] | wolfgang is now known as laga | |
| [00:22:00] | laga: | web configurator? huh? |
| [00:22:00] | juski: | http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/nvoption/ |
| [00:23:00] | juski: | looks like a really good idea tho |
| [00:23:00] | laga: | sounds like '3d acceleration for the typing-challenged' to me |
| [00:24:00] | laga: | Date : 09-12–01 |
| [00:24:00] | juski: | or those who don't know how to change runlevel |
| [00:24:00] | laga: | i wonder if it's already in woody |
| [00:24:00] | juski: | when the screen goes blank |
| [00:25:00] | laga: | http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/nv-online/ <- did you probably intend to paste this? |
| [00:25:00] | juski: | link was posted in mythtvtalk, laga |
| [00:26:00] | juski: | bah! |
| [00:26:00] | juski: | there's no overscan control |
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| [00:26:00] | laga: | juski: i don't read the english part anymore. way too busy |
| [00:26:00] | juski: | ahh |
| [00:26:00] | juski: | I need to have more of a life lol |
| [00:27:00] | iznogood: | Is there a way, to automatically load transponders for astra into mythtv-setup? |
| [00:27:00] | laga: | juski: heh |
| [00:27:00] | juski: | jeeez – I'm on over 600 posts |
| [00:27:00] | juski: | got to cut down I think, then give up smoking |
| [00:27:00] | laga: | you're addicted |
| [00:28:00] | laga: | sounds like a plan |
| [00:28:00] | juski: | addicted to helping people? is there a name for that? |
| [00:28:00] | juski: | (sad bastard) |
| [00:28:00] | laga: | altruism? |
| [00:28:00] | juski: | heheh |
| [00:29:00] | juski: | decided not to answer any more posts about knoppmyth though |
| [00:29:00] | laga: | yeah, they got their own board |
| [00:30:00] | juski: | busier than ours too – and no frickin wonder |
| [00:30:00] | juski: | ;-) |
| [00:30:00] | laga: | heh |
| [00:30:00] | laga: | ok, bedtime for me. night! |
| [00:30:00] | juski: | help – it broken |
| [00:30:00] | juski: | lol |
| [00:30:00] | juski: | night laga |
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| [00:51:00] | riddlebox: | does anyone else have all the right channels but none of the shows in the time slots are right? |
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| [00:51:00] | ** pce-matty stretches and yawns ** | |
| [00:52:00] | pce-matty: | another day, another dollar |
| [00:54:00] | fatmatt: | would that be US dollars? |
| [00:54:00] | fatmatt: | I hate dial up |
| [00:56:00] | diamon: | riddlebox: I've heard of that where the local timezone config was wrong... |
| [00:56:00] | diamon: | fatmatt: Ow, dialup... Been a long time since I had to use that. |
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| [01:02:00] | The_Tick: | mplayer can play wmp9 stuff right? |
| [01:03:00] | kormoc: | some of it, yet |
| [01:03:00] | kormoc: | *yes |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | Aaaaaargh |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | my asterisk box mysteriously logged me out (I hit something odd) |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | and I can't remember the root password |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | I su-diddley-uck |
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| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | OK, remembered it, but su is busted |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | stupid-ass gentoo |
| [01:07:00] | kormoc: | add yourself to the wheel group |
| [01:07:00] | kormoc: | or emerge up sudo and use that |
| [01:08:00] | Beirdo: | fucking stupid gentoo |
| [01:08:00] | Beirdo: | even if it IS my fault |
| [01:08:00] | Beirdo: | sudo is a gaping hole too |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | depends on how it's setup |
| [01:09:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:09:00] | Beirdo: | normally it is |
| [01:09:00] | Beirdo: | and I *had* added myself to wheel |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | yeah, normally it really is |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [01:09:00] | Beirdo: | obviously that got removed somehow |
| [01:09:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | how'd that work? |
| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | hell if I know |
| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, all fixed |
| [01:10:00] | The_Tick: | ya, i can't find a cheaper nice looking case than this one :( |
| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | oh |
| [01:11:00] | ** The_Tick sighs ** | |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | but ssh localhost -l root does work |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:11:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [01:11:00] | ** Beirdo shakes his fist at the computer ** | |
| [01:11:00] | kormoc: | only until you disable root logings via ssh... :P |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | insolent POS |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | which I don't do inside my firewall |
| [01:11:00] | Krazylegz: | Why not? |
| [01:11:00] | jonK: | insolent? haha |
| [01:12:00] | jonK: | funne |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | there's no purpose |
| [01:12:00] | jonK: | petulant computer! |
| [01:12:00] | Krazylegz: | What if the firewall has a hole in it? |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | it doesn't |
| [01:12:00] | Krazylegz: | Then someone can get through the firewall and start working on SSH? |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | blah blah blah |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:12:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. |
| [01:12:00] | jonK: | follow: yppassword did not have the password change mechanism I'm looking for |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | I've been on the internet long enough to know how to secure stuff |
| [01:13:00] | jonK: | follow up: |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | ah, that's too bad :( |
| [01:14:00] | xris: | Beirdo: https://svn.netfilter.org/netfilter/trunk/pat . . . lets/TARPIT/ |
| [01:14:00] | jonK: | os/2 came close... but still surprised at the lack of academic literature on security of remote password changes |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | I don't use netfilter |
| [01:14:00] | xris: | Beirdo: I know, you use bsd. |
| [01:14:00] | xris: | it's still cool |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | it is cool though |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | woohoo |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | cracked $50 on adsense |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | although now they pay at $100 |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | bitches |
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| [01:21:00] | xris: | heh |
| [01:21:00] | xris: | yeah |
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| [01:22:00] | xris: | I'm at $65.50 |
| [01:22:00] | xris: | so you're catching up. |
| [01:22:00] | xris: | seems no one likes to click my links. heh |
| [01:23:00] | xris: | oh well |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | such is life |
| [01:25:00] | The_Tick: | oooh |
| [01:25:00] | The_Tick: | might get this one: http://store.yahoo.com/directron/cavt04uwa.html |
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| [01:27:00] | xris: | Beirdo: yup |
| [01:28:00] | xris: | The_Tick: neer did like coolermaster much. they're big. |
| [01:28:00] | xris: | MUCH deeper than any of my stereo equipment |
| [01:28:00] | The_Tick: | xris: my entertainment center is nice, it has enough area for 4 of these :) |
| [01:28:00] | The_Tick: | if not, i can make my own to fit it |
| [01:29:00] | xris: | didn't say they wouldn't fit. just that they're big. like a standard tower case, but on its side. |
| [01:29:00] | xris: | about 6" deeper than my receiver, too |
| [01:30:00] | The_Tick: | i'm picking this one up in person, so worst case i just don't get it |
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| [01:32:00] | vegeetz: | I am using nvideo s-video out with tvoverscan |
| [01:32:00] | vegeetz: | but i am getting a sort of laggy-ness |
| [01:32:00] | vegeetz: | watching live tv |
| [01:33:00] | xris: | The_Tick: cool. hope you like it. I'm sure it's mostly just a personal-taste kind of thing. |
| [01:34:00] | The_Tick: | xris: probably :) |
| [01:34:00] | The_Tick: | gah, i shouldn't have picked up this call |
| [01:35:00] | ** The_Tick sighs ** | |
| [01:35:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone know where the fedora myth rpm's are at? doesn't wilson have them? |
| [01:35:00] | xris: | Esotericisms: jarod has them somewhere, but atrpms should also have them |
| [01:36:00] | vegeetz: | anyone know how to fix this problem? |
| [01:36:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah I want to download them manually because this is going to only be a frontend |
| [01:36:00] | Tommck: | vegeetz – it's not CPU? |
| [01:36:00] | Esotericisms: | I don't want to setup my fedora system exactly the same |
| [01:36:00] | Esotericisms: | I have other things in store for it:) |
| [01:36:00] | vegeetz: | its a AMD 3000+ sempron |
| [01:36:00] | vegeetz: | 512mb ram |
| [01:36:00] | mishehu: | xris: do you run any amd64 or em64t equipment? |
| [01:36:00] | Tommck: | guess not |
| [01:36:00] | vegeetz: | i think thats more than enough juice |
| [01:36:00] | vegeetz: | to run mythtv |
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| [01:37:00] | xris: | Esotericisms: pretty sure the packages still "require" mythbackend" |
| [01:37:00] | xris: | mishehu: personally? no |
| [01:37:00] | mishehu: | xris: hrmf. I guess I'll have to wait for beirdo to pop on by the channel again. |
| [01:37:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:38:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: you running 64bit installs on your amd64 equipment? |
| [01:38:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [01:38:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: do you have libmpeg2 on your system? |
| [01:39:00] | mishehu: | I can't build it on mine, it tries to use 32 bit asm for mmx optimizations, which seem to be incompatibile with anything amd64 or em64t |
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| [02:03:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone have the link to jarods site where all the myth files are located? |
| [02:04:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
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| [02:10:00] | pce-matty: | Esotericisms: you can't find what you need at: http://atrpms.net/ ? |
| [02:10:00] | ** pce-matty blinks ** | |
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| [02:12:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone remember what needs to be installed just to have a frontend? |
| [02:12:00] | kormoc: | qt + mysql, xorg, a WM... |
| [02:13:00] | Esotericisms: | wm? |
| [02:13:00] | kormoc: | Window Manager of some sort |
| [02:13:00] | Esotericisms: | gotcha |
| [02:13:00] | kormoc: | kde/gnome/blackbox/xfce4/etc |
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| [02:23:00] | adante: | what! no mention of fvwm? :] |
| [02:24:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [02:24:00] | kormoc: | it was mentioned, you mentioned it! |
| [02:26:00] | ** pce-matty puts his 2 cents in: windowmaker ** | |
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| [02:35:00] | safe: | you mentioned window managers without mentioning fluxbox, how dare you lmao |
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| [02:43:00] | riddlebox: | how do I change my timezone in knoppmyth? |
| [02:45:00] | pce-matty: | how do you change your timezone? usually involves airflight, or at least a road trip |
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| [02:59:00] | riddlebox: | what would cause a blue line across the top of my screen? |
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| [03:00:00] | mchou: | xmvc? :) |
| [03:00:00] | mchou: | disable that and you should be fine :) |
| [03:00:00] | riddlebox: | xmvc? |
| [03:01:00] | mchou: | Is there an echo in here? |
| [03:02:00] | Randall64: | here here here ... |
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| [03:06:00] | fatmatt: | I used to get a blue box around the edge of the picture, |
| [03:10:00] | mchou: | mishehu: ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/ . . . 4mdk.x64.rpm |
| [03:10:00] | mchou: | as an example :) |
| [03:11:00] | mchou: | oh, I screwed up the link there. |
| [03:12:00] | mchou: | but drowse in that dir, you'll see what I mean. |
| [03:12:00] | mchou: | browse* |
| [03:12:00] | mishehu: | mchou: I really wonder how they did it, I'm not seeing any actual patches available. |
| [03:12:00] | mishehu: | since I don't use mandrake. heh. |
| [03:14:00] | Randall64: | via_audio: ignoring drain playback error -11 |
| [03:14:00] | Randall64: | drain the audio vein |
| [03:14:00] | mchou: | mishehu: there are SRPMS on the site :) |
| [03:14:00] | mishehu: | mchou: hmm that might make my life a lot easier. ;-) |
| [03:15:00] | mchou: | mishehu: only if it compiles successfully :) |
| [03:15:00] | mchou: | could be your gcc :) |
| [03:15:00] | mchou: | or more specifically your as. |
| [03:15:00] | opello: | can anyone link me the redhat myth docs? friend looking to get started :) |
| [03:16:00] | mishehu: | mchou: stop looking at my as! |
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| [03:16:00] | mishehu: | I updated gcc to 3.4.4... |
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| [03:16:00] | mishehu: | from 3.4.3 |
| [03:16:00] | mchou: | your as aint nothin' to erite home about :) |
| [03:16:00] | opello: | nm, found it |
| [03:16:00] | mchou: | write* |
| [03:17:00] | mishehu: | mchou: thats why you're pointing eh? |
| [03:17:00] | mishehu: | heh |
| [03:18:00] | mchou: | mishehu: that's really too bad, sind mdk uses 3.4.3 :) |
| [03:18:00] | mchou: | since* |
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| [03:18:00] | mishehu: | stop pointing! |
| [03:18:00] | mishehu: | heh |
| [03:18:00] | mchou: | well, maybe their own heavily patched and backported version. |
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| [03:26:00] | diamon: | Yay, my UPS's finally arrived! Now I can hook up my myth system and record during blackouts. :) |
| [03:27:00] | xris: | lol |
| [03:27:00] | diamon: | Oh, and lights too. |
| [03:27:00] | xris: | for all of 15 minutes? |
| [03:27:00] | diamon: | Man, I'm spoiled on Myth now... No no, this is a real UPS, APC 2800XL, runtime's pretty darn good. |
| [03:28:00] | xris: | as long as you don't plug in a CRT |
| [03:28:00] | diamon: | Better still since I'll be 50% load or below. |
| [03:28:00] | diamon: | xris: That's why I put the CRT on a 1200va unit and use it only as needed. |
| [03:28:00] | xris: | ah |
| [03:28:00] | diamon: | All my UPS's have a power override as well, so I can activate them without having them on utility power first. |
| [03:29:00] | diamon: | That's a good thing so I can run my fridge carefully in a hurricane aftermath. :) And if you know someone still with power (though I hope to buy a generator myself eventually) you can even recharge them. |
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| [03:30:00] | adante: | so you can even record in a hurricane aftermath |
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| [03:30:00] | diamon: | If I can ever get the freakin' permits I'm going to get a 12KW generator for the house, but the hardest part is the permit to bury a propane tank... |
| [03:31:00] | diamon: | adante: Assuming cable or OTA is still up, yep. |
| [03:31:00] | adante: | the countryside may be obliterated but it's all good as long as you can watch the simpsons :] |
| [03:31:00] | diamon: | And if not, oh darn, guess I'll watch my stored shows or DVD's! :) |
| [03:31:00] | diamon: | adante: Exactly! I can't help what happened around me, but if I can afford to keep my creature comforts, well... |
| [03:32:00] | xris: | diamon: why not just go fuel cell? |
| [03:33:00] | mishehu: | mchou: their srpm included a few patches that look useful. |
| [03:33:00] | mishehu: | am trying it out. |
| [03:33:00] | diamon: | Bummer my biggest UPS isn't feasible to transport. I've got an 8Kva unit with a power system that feeds house lines directly... Fuel cell? I didn't think anyone had a sensibly-priced one yet. |
| [03:33:00] | diamon: | LP generator seems the best from what I can tell so far. |
| [03:34:00] | adante: | man how often does the power cut out for you? |
| [03:34:00] | adante: | or are you just scarily obsessed with uptime :] |
| [03:34:00] | xris: | diamon: few years back a coworker was looking at investing in a company that produced washing-machine sized ones.. at the time not quite as cheap as on-grid, but definitely better than propane/gas/diesel |
| [03:34:00] | djperegrine: | can someone explain to me how to get mythtv working smoothly without XV ? |
| [03:34:00] | xris: | djperegrine: how fast is your machine? |
| [03:35:00] | djperegrine: | 2 ghz |
| [03:35:00] | xris: | wonder if it CAN.. that's a lot of power to scale AND decompress |
| [03:35:00] | djperegrine: | it runs kinda smooth, but not really |
| [03:35:00] | diamon: | adante: I'm in Florida, and it's getting into prime hurricane season. I don't lose power all that often from storms, but if I do it'll be off 3–6 days or more. |
| [03:35:00] | djperegrine: | can't I use directfb or something? |
| [03:35:00] | xris: | djperegrine: it's probably just maxing out your cpu. you look at top while it plays? |
| [03:35:00] | diamon: | xris: Really? Got any info? |
| [03:35:00] | djperegrine: | xris its not I checked |
| [03:35:00] | xris: | diamon: not anymore, but maybe can recognize them if I google. |
| [03:36:00] | xris: | djperegrine: why can't you use xv? |
| [03:36:00] | adante: | diamon: 3–6 days is.. insane. is that normal over there? |
| [03:36:00] | djperegrine: | ATI readon 7500 video out is and ati drivers |
| [03:36:00] | djperegrine: | don't work |
| [03:36:00] | djperegrine: | have to use vesa or fbdev drivers |
| [03:36:00] | diamon: | xris: If you can recall, I'd love to know. Cost per watt is a big thing. I can get cheap gennys but they use gasoline, which needs a lot more maintenance and repairs than diesel... |
| [03:36:00] | adante: | diamon: i'm in surburban brisbane (aust) here, if the power goes out for 12h it's considered pretty bad |
| [03:37:00] | diamon: | adante: When the hurricane strips power poles of their lines and 20% of the houses are damaged to some extent or another in its swath, I'm happy to have it be that short. |
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| [03:37:00] | xris: | djperegrine: no clue... might be less headache just to get a $30 nvidia card. |
| [03:38:00] | djperegrine: | yea I know was just about to |
| [03:38:00] | diamon: | Some of the worst-hit stuff last year was without power for 2 months, as they effectively had to re-run the whole power system, transformers and all, out to the end-points. |
| [03:38:00] | djperegrine: | oh yea I have a PVR150 |
| [03:38:00] | djperegrine: | MCE , it has a video out |
| [03:38:00] | djperegrine: | can I use that? |
| [03:38:00] | diamon: | djpere: Yeah, sounds like you've spent enough time on the ATI to make it worth just getting an nvidia card... |
| [03:38:00] | mishehu: | soounds like generator time |
| [03:38:00] | mishehu: | and if no gas, put your hamsters to work. |
| [03:38:00] | djperegrine: | yes I am going to |
| [03:38:00] | diamon: | It's not an out, only input on a 150. |
| [03:38:00] | djperegrine: | ohh |
| [03:38:00] | djperegrine: | right |
| [03:39:00] | djperegrine: | oh yea my mobo has a video out |
| [03:39:00] | diamon: | mishehu: That's why I'm trying to get an LPG generator. Fuel can sit for decades and not go bad. :) |
| [03:39:00] | djperegrine: | but I can't even get the regular moniter working :( |
| [03:39:00] | adante: | diamon: that's gotta suck |
| [03:40:00] | adante: | diamon: so all this generator stuff is basically run of the mill for your locality? |
| [03:40:00] | diamon: | adante: Yup. It didn't get that bad here because this area's been hit HARD before, so folks hardened their houses better than average, but a good class 5 hurricane will be badness no matter what. |
| [03:41:00] | diamon: | adante: Actually, most folks just bitch about not having power and think about getting a genny next year, but people are people, and dumber than I'd thought, so next year they bitch about it again, and whine that FPL didn't repair 570k linear miles of lines fast enough for them... |
| [03:42:00] | mishehu: | I'd get lcd monitors |
| [03:42:00] | mishehu: | less power consumption |
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| [03:42:00] | djperegrine: | I have a sis651 :O |
| [03:42:00] | diamon: | adante: UPS's and portable generators are semi-common at least, but full-up whole-house systems are fairly uncommon, even though they're only like $2k USD for a 10KW system, plus install. Of course, install and permits will add another 1–2k as well, so it gets a mite high, but the resale value a whole-house generator adds to a house overcomes that by a LOT. |
| [03:43:00] | adante: | i find it bizarre to think of a natural disaster that causes such infrastructure destruction as some sort of regular annual event |
| [03:43:00] | diamon: | mishehu: I may get a 14" LCD 'just in case' for lower power usage, but I can't stand LCD's so far. Dead pixels make me berserk. |
| [03:43:00] | mishehu: | ahah! I've got a working mpeg2dec on x86_64 now |
| [03:43:00] | diamon: | Yay, dec! |
| [03:43:00] | mishehu: | diamon: I've only had dead pixels on my notebook |
| [03:43:00] | mishehu: | 2 partial dead one |
| [03:44:00] | mishehu: | my two monitors have none, nor does my old 15" one. |
| [03:44:00] | diamon: | Can't stand 'em at all. And I can see the pixels on them too, which I'm not a fan of either. I like analog blurring. :) |
| [03:44:00] | diamon: | But that's a good idea, I may have to look into a cheap LCD just for that. |
| [03:45:00] | quink: | any of you know how well a pentium-m system would handle mythtv? |
| [03:45:00] | xris: | diamon: can't find anything in my archived email, and google is saturated with stuff these days. |
| [03:45:00] | diamon: | xris: Thanks for looking though! If you run across it, well, I hang here a lot now that I have a bit of a clue on Myth... |
| [03:46:00] | diamon: | quink: The mobile ones? They're faster clock-for-clock than P4's which is good, but have lower FSB speeds, which isn't... For non-HD, -M's should be fine, I can't swear to anything more. |
| [03:46:00] | quink: | diamon: there faster in certain aspects, but not all |
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| [03:47:00] | quink: | i'm a bit annoyed with my system at the moment and am considering an upgrade |
| [03:47:00] | xris: | diamon: best that comes to mind is Ballard... but that could just be because there's a town called Ballard a few miles away from here. |
| [03:47:00] | diamon: | quink: Clock for clock they are faster in all aspects, AFAIK. Shorter cache times, tighter pipes, all sorts of stuff. Tom's Hardware Guide had a good writeup on several of them vs AMD and P4's. |
| [03:47:00] | diamon: | Ballard AirGen fuel cell generator... Look at that. |
| [03:48:00] | quink: | diamon: i know they are better overall, but in some aspects they lag. i think floating point stuff |
| [03:48:00] | quink: | i forget exactly |
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| [03:48:00] | diamon: | quink: And memory access, mostly due to the FSB speed. |
| [03:49:00] | quink: | i'm thinking of getting a matx mobo that takes a p-m and get a 1.5ghz proc or something |
| [03:50:00] | mchou: | mishehu: who's you daddy? :) |
| [03:50:00] | mchou: | your* |
| [03:51:00] | diamon: | xris: Looks nifty, but the output is a bit low for the uses I want them for, but that 'dead quiet' aspect is nice. :) |
| [03:51:00] | xris: | diamon: dunno if that's even the company or not.. but could be. I remember it being along the lines of "a small house" per generator |
| [03:51:00] | xris: | the idea being that you'd just buy 2 if you needed more. or to supplement the on-grid power as needed |
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| [03:52:00] | quink: | oh hey xris any reason mythweb doesn't work with a cellphone in any of the last couple releases? |
| [03:52:00] | xris: | mchou: are you trying to date yourself. ;) |
| [03:52:00] | mchou: | xris: lol :) |
| [03:52:00] | xris: | quink: new cellphone detection code supposed to be more accurate. but it misses some phones. |
| [03:53:00] | xris: | or something like that. |
| [03:53:00] | quink: | heh |
| [03:53:00] | xris: | I don't have any way to test it. |
| [03:53:00] | quink: | since like .15 or .16 i've had trouble |
| [03:54:00] | xris: | quink: you have WAP or WML phone? |
| [03:54:00] | quink: | wap |
| [03:54:00] | xris: | hmm, just occurred to me that with isaac's mythweb commit today I should upgrade mythbackend. |
| [03:54:00] | diamon: | Foo, no MTBF or maintenance info on these... |
| [03:54:00] | xris: | quink: might be the problem. no one's been supporting the WAP theme |
| [03:54:00] | quink: | well screw them |
| [03:54:00] | quink: | whats wml? |
| [03:55:00] | xris: | dunno. different format. |
| [03:55:00] | xris: | I don't know anything about cell phone web stuff. no way to test. |
| [03:55:00] | quink: | i just get a blank page. |
| [03:56:00] | quink: | 209.183.48.61 – mythweb [19/Jul/2005:18:55:42 -0700] "GET /mythweb/ HTTP/1.1" 200 157 "-" "SonyEricssonT637/R101 Profile/MIDP-1.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.0 UP.Link/5.1.2.9" |
| [03:56:00] | xris: | and if I did get a web-capable phone, it'd probably do full html, anyway. |
| [03:56:00] | xris: | quink: errors in the logs? |
| [03:56:00] | quink: | ...full html on a phone seems silly. |
| [03:56:00] | xris: | quink: ever see a sidekick? |
| [03:56:00] | xris: | or a treo, for that matter. |
| [03:56:00] | quink: | nope |
| [03:56:00] | quink: | for error i mean |
| [03:56:00] | quink: | and nope for the rest |
| [03:57:00] | xris: | check the error logs, that should at least tell you something. |
| [03:57:00] | quink: | apache error or myth logs? |
| [03:57:00] | xris: | as for th others, they're basically pocket-pc type phones... |
| [03:57:00] | xris: | apache logs |
| [03:57:00] | quink: | yeah nothing in apache error logs |
| [03:57:00] | xris: | for me, *any* browsing of the web on a phone seems silly. but more than that, it seems expensive. |
| [03:58:00] | diamon: | Once I can watch Happy Tree Friends on a cell, I'll be happy. :) |
| [03:58:00] | quink: | ah. well i get 1mb a month, or is it 3 mb...i forget |
| [03:58:00] | quink: | i never use it all. I check email, news, and i can hit my network camera on it too and system stats |
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| [04:00:00] | xris: | quink: only advice I can give you is to drop this around the code to help figure out what's wrong: debug("here");exit; |
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| [04:00:00] | ik1: | evenin all |
| [04:00:00] | xris: | that'll at least give you an idea of where the script is dying. |
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| [04:00:00] | ik1: | has anyone seen a PVR 350 that can't pick anything up on the tuner? |
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| [04:01:00] | quink: | xris: too lazy :P |
| [04:01:00] | quink: | well busy |
| [04:01:00] | xris: | you might also check to get the error email sending to a real address. |
| [04:01:00] | xris: | since that'll catch a lot of php errors that may not make it into the apache logs |
| [04:01:00] | quink: | no system email |
| [04:02:00] | quink: | oh well no big deal |
| [04:02:00] | xris: | quink: go into conf.php and set it to a real address |
| [04:03:00] | quink: | shouldn't it use the system mta by default? |
| [04:03:00] | xris: | don't remember if I set it to blank or a real address by default. |
| [04:03:00] | pce-matty: | reboot time, then when I'm back, some serious myth hacking |
| [04:04:00] | ** pce-matty so needs a whiteboard ** | |
| [04:04:00] | pce-matty: | bbs |
| [04:04:00] | quink: | define('Error_Email', 'php_errors@'.preg_replace('/.*?\b([\w\-]+\.[\w\-]+)$/ |
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| [04:04:00] | quink: | ', '$1', server_domain)); |
| [04:04:00] | quink: | i'm not quite up to par on regexes yet |
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| [04:05:00] | xris: | ok, that's just pulling off the root domain instead of a subdomain. |
| [04:05:00] | xris: | so @example.com instead of @mythtv.example.com |
| [04:06:00] | xris: | as long as server_domain is getting set, it should be sending something out. |
| [04:06:00] | quink: | well i only use the root domain(optimusprimal.com) |
| [04:07:00] | bryanT: | Does anyone have any idea what frequency tables time warner commonly uses? |
| [04:07:00] | ik1: | has anyone seen a PVR 350 that can't pick anything up on the tuner? I'm getting video on the svideo input, but nothing but snow on the tuner channels |
| [04:07:00] | bryanT: | We have a Hauppauge 500 that we're trying to install. |
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| [04:08:00] | ik1: | bryanT: are you able to pick anything up by manually tuning using ptune? |
| [04:08:00] | xris: | quink: what I'm saying is to just hard-code it to something you know works: define('error_email', ' |
| [04:08:00] | bryanT: | We haven't tried ptune, but I'll check that out quick. |
| [04:08:00] | xris: | quink: what I'm saying is to just hard-code it to something you know works: define('error_email', 'me@example.com '); |
| [04:08:00] | quink: | okay. |
| [04:08:00] | Chutt: | i need to stick a bigass 'CRASH REPORTS WITHOUT BACKTRACES WILL BE IGNORED' notice in trac |
| [04:09:00] | xris: | lol |
| [04:09:00] | riddlebox: | bryanT:here is a good site http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4822 |
| [04:09:00] | bryanT: | excellent, thanks riddlebox |
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| [04:10:00] | riddlebox: | it really helped me, especially if you are using knoppmyth |
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| [04:11:00] | bryanT: | riddlebox: so you are using a 500 also? |
| [04:11:00] | xris: | guess at some point I should really attempt to build a new mythplugins rpm |
| [04:11:00] | quink: | ew. rpms |
| [04:11:00] | riddlebox: | yes I am trying to get a clearer picture and figure out a few things yet but it is up and running |
| [04:11:00] | xris: | quink: as opposed to no package? |
| [04:11:00] | quink: | yep |
| [04:11:00] | xris: | rpm seems nicer to me to develop with than deb (one file vs many files) |
| [04:12:00] | xris: | had my share of no packages with slackware. it's a dumb way to manage files. |
| [04:12:00] | flithm: | hey everyone... I've got this weird problem where if I run mythbackend from the command line it works fine, but if I run it from an init script it dies (can't connect to sql server), I'm thinking when it's run from the init script it's not findin the mysql.txt file? Does this seem reasonable? If so, anyone know a good way to fix? |
| [04:12:00] | quink: | i've become a gentoo bitch |
| [04:12:00] | xris: | gentoo has packages |
| [04:12:00] | quink: | yeah, but when i was on redhat it was a real pain to deal with rpms |
| [04:12:00] | xris: | see, people say that and I just don't understand it. |
| [04:12:00] | quink: | dunno. portage seems a lot easier then rpm |
| [04:12:00] | xris: | there hasn't been an issue with that since like redhat 7.3. |
| [04:13:00] | quink: | but this was like 3 years ago so maybe things have changed |
| [04:13:00] | quink: | yeah i think 7.3 was my last redhat hahah |
| [04:13:00] | xris: | portage is a PITA if you have more than 2–3 servers to deal with. |
| [04:13:00] | Chutt: | hrmph |
| [04:13:00] | Chutt: | can't get this running stable at ddr400 |
| [04:13:00] | quink: | xris: just have the one. |
| [04:13:00] | xris: | quink: then gentoo is fine. |
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| [04:13:00] | diamon: | chutt: How much do you want it stable at 400, and what's the real rating? |
| [04:14:00] | bannerboy: | I'm having problems with mythtranscode: |
| [04:14:00] | bannerboy: | mythtranscode -i 1000_20050719040500_20050719040600.nuv -p autodetect --fifodir .su |
| [04:14:00] | bannerboy: | failed to open file '1000_20050719040500_20050719040600.nuv' errcode: -6 |
| [04:14:00] | diamon: | bannerboy: Was I looking into that with you yesterday? If not, I looked into that the other day and can't find anything so far. Which is a not-good thing of course. |
| [04:15:00] | diamon: | Seems to be a recent glitch though, I've only seen that in the past few days. |
| [04:16:00] | xris: | bannerboy: why are you running by hand? |
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| [04:16:00] | bannerboy: | because I'm trying to get it to work. |
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| [04:17:00] | xris: | bannerboy: it's not intended to be run by hand. |
| [04:17:00] | diamon: | chutt: How much do you want that memory stable at 400, and what's the real rating? |
| [04:17:00] | Chutt: | eh, it'd just be nice |
| [04:17:00] | mchou: | Chutt: what brand of memory is it? |
| [04:17:00] | quink: | up the voltage a little |
| [04:17:00] | Chutt: | cheapass stuff, and i did up the voltage |
| [04:17:00] | bannerboy: | diamon: that may be, but it should be able to be run by hand and get the same results |
| [04:17:00] | Chutt: | no biggy, though |
| [04:17:00] | diamon: | banner: Wrong person. :) |
| [04:18:00] | bannerboy: | xris: that may be, but it should be able to be run by hand and get the same results |
| [04:18:00] | mchou: | Chutt: you said it passes memtest but not gcc, correct? |
| [04:18:00] | Chutt: | right |
| [04:18:00] | quink: | isn't the difference beteween cheap ram and decent ram normally like $5? |
| [04:18:00] | diamon: | Chutt: You can always try lowering the CAS latency, from 2 to 2.5, or 2.5 to 3... |
| [04:18:00] | Chutt: | nope |
| [04:18:00] | mchou: | quink: naw, much more than that now. |
| [04:18:00] | Chutt: | board doesn't post with it at 3 |
| [04:18:00] | mchou: | ouch! |
| [04:18:00] | xris: | bannerboy: I guess.. depends on what you're trying to do though (since most people don't seem to know what it does) |
| [04:19:00] | Chutt: | have to reset the cmos to get back into the settings |
| [04:19:00] | diamon: | Chutt: I'd give up and toss that crap mem then. |
| [04:19:00] | Chutt: | naw |
| [04:19:00] | xris: | the question, I guess, is does the file exist? |
| [04:19:00] | Chutt: | like i said, not a big deal |
| [04:19:00] | quink: | mchou: corsair/crucial/kingston vs noname brand normally is 5–10 on newegg for 'normal' ram |
| [04:19:00] | Randall64: | damn ut2k4 master is down |
| [04:19:00] | diamon: | Toss, toss! :) |
| [04:19:00] | Chutt: | and it's only because i'm running 4x512MB |
| [04:19:00] | Chutt: | this is crucial ram :p |
| [04:19:00] | quink: | ah |
| [04:19:00] | mchou: | quink: nthat's nit what I was talking about. |
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| [04:19:00] | Chutt: | just not their overpriced crap |
| [04:19:00] | quink: | well most mobos when you do 4x* you have to watch how you are doing it |
| [04:20:00] | diamon: | Mmm, I want to upgrade to 2Gb, but 1 is all I really have a serious use for for the moment. :) |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | quink: Corsair value vs Corsair higher grade. |
| [04:20:00] | Chutt: | 1's not enough for a make -j3 in myth to not swap =) |
| [04:20:00] | bannerboy: | xris: end result: I'm trying to rip vhs tapes to dvd |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | not* |
| [04:20:00] | quink: | mchou: i meant value vs other crap |
| [04:20:00] | riddlebox: | with my pvr500 it always starts with video0 but it has no sound? only my tuners on video1 have sound? |
| [04:20:00] | diamon: | Chutt: Oh yeah, you do devel work too right? |
| [04:20:00] | xris: | bannerboy: then you don't know what mythtranscode does |
| [04:20:00] | quink: | the higher grade is only needed if you are a moron and OC |
| [04:20:00] | Chutt: | err, actually, this is corsair ram |
| [04:20:00] | diamon: | riddlebox: That's odd. |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | quink: I never buy no-name crap. |
| [04:20:00] | bannerboy: | xris: what do you suggest |
| [04:21:00] | xris: | mythtranscode converts mythtv recordings to mpeg4 or rtjpeg nuv files. |
| [04:21:00] | mchou: | Chutt: is it corsair value or higher grade? |
| [04:21:00] | xris: | you want nuvexport, or if your files are already mpeg2 files, something like nuv2disk |
| [04:21:00] | Chutt: | i've got crucial in all my other machines, but the corsair valueselects are _explicitly_ listed in the motherboard manual as being supported in a 4x512MB config |
| [04:21:00] | bannerboy: | xris: that I can then use mencoder to make into mpeg2 |
| [04:21:00] | xris: | bannerboy: no, mencoder CANNOT read nuv files. |
| [04:21:00] | quink: | Chutt: bios upgrade |
| [04:21:00] | mchou: | Chutt: yeah, I've seen that too in the manual. |
| [04:21:00] | Chutt: | none available =) |
| [04:21:00] | Chutt: | it's a new board |
| [04:21:00] | quink: | ummm give up and cry |
| [04:22:00] | Chutt: | <shrug> |
| [04:22:00] | diamon: | Chutt: I never let 'official' lists drive my selection. :) They mis-spell stuff in their manuals, I'll assume the rest is iffy as well. |
| [04:22:00] | quink: | or call mobo company and bitch |
| [04:22:00] | xris: | or wait, you were doing fifodir... |
| [04:22:00] | bannerboy: | xris: ok, I've got what you're getting at now |
| [04:22:00] | Chutt: | it's really not that big of a deal |
| [04:22:00] | Chutt: | just a 'would be nice', and i'll test whenever there's a newer bios available |
| [04:22:00] | quink: | it might not be, but we are bored and have decided to make an issue of this |
| [04:22:00] | riddlebox: | diamon:I got it, deleted video0 and only added video1, then rebooted it works great now |
| [04:22:00] | mchou: | Chutt: 2 sticks work fine, right? |
| [04:22:00] | diamon: | Chutt: Checked with Mr Bios? I think they have tons of alternate bios's. |
| [04:22:00] | Chutt: | yup |
| [04:22:00] | xris: | bannerboy: first question, what format are the files in now? nupplevideo or mpeg? |
| [04:22:00] | Chutt: | diamon, the board's _brand_ new |
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| [04:22:00] | bannerboy: | xris: nuppelvideo, strait out of mythtv |
| [04:22:00] | quink: | took my mobo 6 months to get CnQ working |
| [04:22:00] | Chutt: | cnq works great |
| [04:22:00] | diamon: | Chutt: Ah. No idea then. |
| [04:22:00] | xris: | bannerboy: just checking (since all files have .nuv suffix even if they're mpeg) |
| [04:23:00] | riddlebox: | diamon: still got a blue line ontop of my screen and my picture is a little snowy...if you have any ideas |
| [04:23:00] | xris: | anyway, just grab nuvexport. it handles all of that stuff for you. |
| [04:23:00] | Chutt: | which is really cool – this 4400+ idles at ~33–35c |
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| [04:23:00] | diamon: | Blue line on top I can't help you with, as I'll be damned if I can cure mine, which is on my top and left side... |
| [04:23:00] | mchou: | Chutt: nice. |
| [04:23:00] | quink: | Chutt: i had to use rmclock for a while until the bios started supporting it properly |
| [04:23:00] | quink: | mine is idling at 37c but thats onyl cause its hot here |
| [04:23:00] | diamon: | Snowy, be sure you're at a good resolution and bitrate, maybe turn on a deinterlacer... |
| [04:24:00] | mchou: | quink: what's your ambient temp? |
| [04:24:00] | Chutt: | and generally, the motherboard temp sensor reads higher than the cpu temp |
| [04:24:00] | quink: | in the 80's i think |
| [04:24:00] | diamon: | Bleagh, I keep my house at 72 year round. :) |
| [04:24:00] | quink: | other temp sensor on the mobo is 38 |
| [04:24:00] | quink: | errr 37 |
| [04:24:00] | bannerboy: | xris: I'm emerging it now |
| [04:24:00] | mchou: | I can't get my 3200 below 40. |
| [04:24:00] | diamon: | Costs a bit, but I'll swing $40/month average extra for power to use the AC/heat... |
| [04:24:00] | mchou: | it's pissing me off. |
| [04:24:00] | Chutt: | the other machines i have (2 xp 2500+s, 1 1800+) both idle around 45–50 |
| [04:25:00] | Chutt: | people pay for heat? |
| [04:25:00] | diamon: | mchou: Athlon or P4? |
| [04:25:00] | quink: | Chutt: for some socket a's you can have them 'idle' so they drop temps |
| [04:25:00] | mchou: | A64 |
| [04:25:00] | quink: | i used to do that on my 2000+ |
| [04:25:00] | Chutt: | quink, yeah, but that fucks stuff up |
| [04:25:00] | Chutt: | tried it =) |
| [04:25:00] | quink: | never had much of an issue. it matters more on your motherboard |
| [04:25:00] | quink: | kt266a didn't mind. nforce did |
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| [04:26:00] | mchou: | the clip on the retail fan is pretty screwed up. |
| [04:26:00] | Chutt: | funny thing is, this ram was perfectly stable at 400 for about two weeks |
| [04:27:00] | mchou: | or I should say the lever. |
| [04:27:00] | quink: | does intel use the same type of ram as amd? i honestly have no clue |
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| [04:27:00] | mchou: | not any more :) |
| [04:27:00] | Chutt: | lot of their newer boards are ddr2 |
| [04:27:00] | quink: | oh. |
| [04:27:00] | quink: | damn. |
| [04:27:00] | mchou: | |
| [04:27:00] | phiber: | in the capture card setup, if i have a pvr-150, which card do i choose. |
| [04:27:00] | phiber: | the 150 is not in the list. |
| [04:27:00] | quink: | was hoping to go from socket A to a p-m board and use the same parts except proc and mobo |
| [04:27:00] | mchou: | which have higher latencies. |
| [04:28:00] | mchou: | quink: bah, go a64 then :) |
| [04:28:00] | mchou: | still need a mobo replacement. |
| [04:28:00] | quink: | if i'm going tp spend 250$ for an upgarde might as well go pentium-m. cooler |
| [04:28:00] | Archlyric: | i have a question |
| [04:28:00] | Archlyric: | would mythtv most likely work with freebsd? |
| [04:29:00] | ledhed: | yup |
| [04:29:00] | Chutt: | possibly |
| [04:29:00] | mchou: | Is pentium m really cooler than a64?? |
| [04:29:00] | Chutt: | but driver support is better on linux |
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| [04:29:00] | quink: | mchou: a lot cooler |
| [04:29:00] | quink: | 35w |
| [04:29:00] | Archlyric: | awesome |
| [04:29:00] | Archlyric: | might get a tv card now |
| [04:29:00] | phiber: | ?? |
| [04:29:00] | quink: | the cooling fans that come with it look like stuff you see on a 486 |
| [04:29:00] | mishehu: | yeah, but pentium m isn't 64bit |
| [04:29:00] | Archlyric: | any reccomendations on a tv tuner? |
| [04:29:00] | quink: | so? do you need 64 bit for a pvr/webserver/fileserver?? |
| [04:30:00] | Chutt: | yes, yes i do |
| [04:30:00] | quink: | Why? |
| [04:30:00] | ledhed: | mchou, if you under clock the a64 down to the same speed as the Pentium-M then you can under volt it and get that same temps.... |
| [04:30:00] | Chutt: | because =) |
| [04:30:00] | mishehu: | why not? |
| [04:30:00] | mchou: | quink: depends if you transcode :) |
| [04:30:00] | quink: | still seems silly. |
| [04:30:00] | phiber: | in the capture card setup, if i have a pvr-150, which card do i choose. the 150 is not in the list. |
| [04:30:00] | Chutt: | well, i can decode, deinterlace, and display 3 1080i hd streams |
| [04:30:00] | mishehu: | my a64 idles between 33 and 34 deg c |
| [04:30:00] | Chutt: | with perfect smoothness |
| [04:30:00] | quink: | how fast is your proc Chutt ? |
| [04:30:00] | Chutt: | 4400+ |
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| [04:30:00] | quink: | and doesn't hte hd tuner do most of hte work? |
| [04:30:00] | ** mishehu coughs. ** | |
| [04:31:00] | mchou: | goddamn, eveyone gets lower temps than I do. |
| [04:31:00] | Chutt: | not for playback |
| [04:31:00] | mchou: | mishehu: which mobo you using? |
| [04:31:00] | Chutt: | the tuner does exactly none of the work |
| [04:31:00] | ledhed: | mchou, temps are relative |
| [04:31:00] | quink: | you can watch 3 hdtv streams off the same comp? |
| [04:32:00] | mchou: | ledhed: not if we are talking the same CPU and mobo :) |
| [04:32:00] | diamon: | mchou: How hot is the CPU again? |
| [04:32:00] | diamon: | I'm trying to check my A64 server... |
| [04:32:00] | mchou: | mine idles arount 40. |
| [04:32:00] | mchou: | 3200. |
| [04:32:00] | xris: | blech.. "-lXext missing" compile error. wonder what dependency I'm missing. |
| [04:32:00] | mishehu: | mchou: asus a8n sli deluxe |
| [04:32:00] | mchou: | around* |
| [04:32:00] | phiber: | in the capture card setup, if i have a pvr-150, which card do i choose. the 150 is not in the list. |
| [04:32:00] | mishehu: | (though I'm not using any sli stuff) |
| [04:32:00] | mchou: | goddamn. same here. |
| [04:33:00] | mchou: | this really has me concerned. |
| [04:33:00] | mishehu: | why? |
| [04:33:00] | mchou: | maybe I didnt mount HSF correctly. |
| [04:33:00] | mishehu: | whats to be concerned about? |
| [04:33:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, what's the latest svn revision number for mythtv? |
| [04:33:00] | mishehu: | mchou: how hot are you running? |
| [04:33:00] | mchou: | 40. |
| [04:33:00] | diamon: | 40 isn't bad. 55+ I'd be worried, but 40 is a midrange-acceptable in my book. Below 40 is happy-land. |
| [04:33:00] | mishehu: | mchou: did you enable cool & quite? |
| [04:33:00] | Chutt: | quink, yup |
| [04:34:00] | phiber: | does anyone know? |
| [04:34:00] | quink: | diamon: thats quite silly. |
| [04:34:00] | quink: | normally 80–100 is thermal death |
| [04:34:00] | quink: | 60's a quite fine. |
| [04:34:00] | Chutt: | this proc gets up to 50c, max |
| [04:34:00] | mchou: | one of the reason I went a64 was it's supposed to be cooler than my AXP :( |
| [04:34:00] | Chutt: | xris, with myth? |
| [04:34:00] | mishehu: | diamon: don't remind me of my athlon xp 3200+... damn thing runs at about 50 deg c idle |
| [04:34:00] | quink: | my 2000+ even with a 120mm fan on it and a 1/2copper hsf would hit 60+c under load |
| [04:34:00] | mchou: | it's like about the same (on different mobos, of course) |
| [04:34:00] | xris: | Chutt: yes. I think it has something to do with arts. |
| [04:34:00] | diamon: | mchou: So strip it down. Use 95% Isopropyl alcohol to clean the CPU and HSF, use Arctic Silver 5 or better, and seat it again. Maybe lap the heatsink if you're feeling frisky. |
| [04:34:00] | Chutt: | that's part of X |
| [04:34:00] | xris: | will let you know when this compile finishes or dies |
| [04:35:00] | Chutt: | not arts |
| [04:35:00] | xris: | Chutt: I know that it's X |
| [04:35:00] | Chutt: | ah |
| [04:35:00] | xris: | but I only seem to get the error if I enable arts in mythtv |
| [04:35:00] | Chutt: | some of the configure option combinations are a tad busted |
| [04:35:00] | diamon: | Still trying to get my CPU temp, I just found I never set up any thermal monitoring stuff. :P |
| [04:35:00] | quink: | i dislke overpowered systems. makes too much heat. and its hot enough as is |
| [04:35:00] | quink: | diamon: lm_sensors |
| [04:36:00] | xris: | well, not arts... |
| [04:36:00] | xris: | that failed, too. |
| [04:36:00] | mchou: | you ever touch the nvidi NF4 HSF??? |
| [04:36:00] | Chutt: | my 4400+ is the quietest "real" machine in my house |
| [04:36:00] | diamon: | quink: Wasn't it abandoned? |
| [04:36:00] | mchou: | it's hotter than my proc. |
| [04:36:00] | quink: | diamon: dunno but i've been running it for longer then i can remember. |
| [04:36:00] | mchou: | NF4 sux mongo juice. |
| [04:36:00] | quink: | dunno what else you would use. |
| [04:36:00] | Chutt: | mchou, coolbits on? |
| [04:37:00] | quink: | Chutt: wow. your machines must be noisey. |
| [04:37:00] | Chutt: | nope |
| [04:37:00] | mchou: | coolbits? what's that? |
| [04:37:00] | Chutt: | thie 4400+ is really quiet :p |
| [04:37:00] | diamon: | mchou: That's why I replace those too, and use Artic Silver on anything I can stick it to. I even get crazy and spread it with flat-razors for GPU's and higher-end CPU's. |
| [04:37:00] | xris: | at least there's ccache. heh. |
| [04:37:00] | Chutt: | mchou, driver option |
| [04:37:00] | quink: | my 2800+ is noisier then my 2000+. but thats cause i am using a stock hsf |
| [04:37:00] | quink: | and without the bigger fan inside the case, the heat from my scsi drives just hangs around |
| [04:38:00] | quink: | what case are you using? |
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| [04:38:00] | Chutt: | antec p180 |
| [04:38:00] | mchou: | Chutt: is that the same as powernow-k8? |
| [04:38:00] | quink: | thats a brand new case. |
| [04:38:00] | quink: | how'd you find it? |
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| [04:38:00] | defaultro: | hey Chutt, are d-vine htpc case good? |
| [04:38:00] | Chutt: | silentpcreview had a preview on it |
| [04:38:00] | Chutt: | never used one |
| [04:39:00] | xris: | Chutt: any ideas what might be preventing thecompiler from finding Xext? |
| [04:39:00] | Chutt: | my 'production' myth box is in an aria |
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| [04:39:00] | Chutt: | xris, does it exist on the box? |
| [04:39:00] | quink: | Chutt: oh i thought you said you had a p180 |
| [04:39:00] | Chutt: | and have you compiled myth on it before |
| [04:39:00] | xris: | of course |
| [04:39:00] | Chutt: | quink, my 4400+ is in a p180 |
| [04:39:00] | xris: | not with this OS, no |
| [04:39:00] | mishehu: | mchou: I have to rma one mobo because the nforce4 hsf is failing |
| [04:39:00] | quink: | well how did you find one to purchase? |
| [04:39:00] | Chutt: | might be missing a dev package? |
| [04:39:00] | wasabi: | so if you're using myth. |
| [04:39:00] | Chutt: | quink, froogle |
| [04:39:00] | wasabi: | and it launchs mplayer to play a video. |
| [04:39:00] | ledhed: | mchou, what is the ambient temp? |
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| [04:39:00] | quink: | ah. i checked the big name retailers and couldn't find it |
| [04:39:00] | mishehu: | I have another fan blowing on it. |
| [04:39:00] | wasabi: | how do you control mplayer with the keyboard, to exit? |
| [04:39:00] | xris: | but I've gotten this error countless times in the past, just a matter of finding the right combination of options to the rpm |
| [04:39:00] | mchou: | mishehu: no rma necessary. ASUS will replace HSF free. |
| [04:39:00] | quink: | funny though, my production mythbox is in an aria too |
| [04:40:00] | Chutt: | mchou, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article . . . 97&num=2 |
| [04:40:00] | quink: | your hdds get really hot? |
| [04:40:00] | mchou: | ledhed: probably around 80. |
| [04:40:00] | ledhed: | thats your problem |
| [04:40:00] | mishehu: | mchou: really? funny that newegg told me I had to send the whole mobo in. |
| [04:40:00] | xris: | will eventually find it. wish jarod was around. |
| [04:40:00] | diamon: | Wow, that's very bad... |
| [04:40:00] | mchou: | mishehu: nah, call ASUS up. |
| [04:40:00] | Chutt: | quink, dunno, only have one seagate sata drive, and it doesn't report anything to hddtemp |
| [04:41:00] | quink: | oh. |
| [04:41:00] | xris: | woah, disable opengl vsync and it kills all x support |
| [04:41:00] | mishehu: | mchou: I shall. I'd hate to have to dismantle this whole machine. |
| [04:41:00] | diamon: | I don't ever let my HDD's cross 60. 55C is my max temp if I can help it at all for everything but GPU's. |
| [04:41:00] | mchou: | mishehu: it's a known problem. |
| [04:41:00] | quink: | well i loaded mine up with 3 drives. gets quite toasty. they can idle(in the summer) at 48c |
| [04:41:00] | xris: | but still gets the error. blech. |
| [04:41:00] | mchou: | Chutt: thx. |
| [04:41:00] | diamon: | xris: Myth via directfb? |
| [04:41:00] | defaultro: | so guys, for hdds that are 300gig+, which brand do you recommend? |
| [04:41:00] | quink: | seagate |
| [04:41:00] | Chutt: | mchou, they talk about overclocking, but you can just as easily underclock it :p |
| [04:42:00] | mchou: | Chutt: yeah. |
| [04:42:00] | xris: | diamon: no, just trying to compile a new svn rpm.. but haven't done it in so long I've forgotten what options I used. |
| [04:42:00] | diamon: | Ah. |
| [04:42:00] | quink: | xris: take notes |
| [04:42:00] | Chutt: | what are you configure options? |
| [04:42:00] | Chutt: | and, make sure you have the xlibs dev rpm or whateverthehell it is installed |
| [04:42:00] | diamon: | defaultro: Yeah, seagate, the ones with the 3+ year warranties. I'll never buy another 1-year drive again if I can help it. |
| [04:42:00] | defaultro: | i'm compiling latest svn now pulled 3 mins ago. I hope this revision is a bit stable. |
| [04:43:00] | Chutt: | no less stable than any other |
| [04:43:00] | defaultro: | diamon, ok |
| [04:44:00] | defaultro: | i saw a bug. While watching and you display program guide, and once you close it, picture will be displayed 10 or 20pix to the left |
| [04:44:00] | diamon: | Ok, this isn't Myth related, but I'll ask quick in case anyone knows... I had to get some modules for Perl via CPAN, and now Perl refuses to update in my FC3 system. Should I try forcing it, or can I tell it to do it anyway, or should I just stay with CPAN updates? |
| [04:44:00] | diamon: | Update via up2date or yum, sorry... |
| [04:44:00] | quink: | i really need to get spidf, dvi, and my remote control programmed better. |
| [04:44:00] | defaultro: | diamon, i jus download .gz files from search.cpan.org and compile it myself |
| [04:44:00] | quink: | i hate being lazy. |
| [04:45:00] | xris: | seems I have everything I need. will try it on my other box and see if anything happens differently |
| [04:45:00] | phiber: | can anyone help me out? |
| [04:46:00] | vegeetz: | anyone using nvidia svideo out, does the output seem kind of blurry or slow |
| [04:46:00] | bryanT: | When we go to 'watch tv' we get a black screen and it quits responding. We can get to a prompt again, but the myth frontend dies. We've followed all of the steps here (http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4822) with no errors at all. |
| [04:47:00] | diamon: | vegeetz: Got an FX5200 here, and it runs fine for me. Nice and crisp, no interference. |
| [04:47:00] | diamon: | And it will 'seem' blurrier than a monitor, the rez is way lower no matter what you feed the TV. :) |
| [04:48:00] | Chutt: | and if you're using svideo, use 640x480 or 720x480 |
| [04:49:00] | hadees: | hmm so aplay works but mythtv isn't playing anything |
| [04:49:00] | defaultro: | the latest mythtv svn is bad, make fails :( |
| [04:49:00] | hadees: | sound wise |
| [04:49:00] | quink: | i had a real time making my widescreen tv like the video out |
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| [04:50:00] | diamon: | Though for the record my JVC TV would only accept 640x480 and 800x600. |
| [04:50:00] | quink: | so are any 'breakthrough' features in the queue for .19? |
| [04:50:00] | diamon: | Via s-video, I mean. Man, partial sentence night for me it seems tonight. |
| [04:51:00] | defaultro: | mpegts.c:33: error: syntax error before '<<' token |
| [04:51:00] | Chutt: | defaultro, that's not myth's fault, that's yours |
| [04:51:00] | defaultro: | hmmm, why |
| [04:51:00] | Chutt: | you had something else applied to the source, and it conflicted with the update |
| [04:51:00] | Chutt: | svn up notified you of that, but you ignored it |
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| [04:52:00] | phiber: | anyone have a PVR-150?? |
| [04:52:00] | defaultro: | i will look |
| [04:52:00] | defaultro: | when I svn update it a while ago? |
| [04:53:00] | defaultro: | this is it Chutt, http://pastebin.com/316720 |
| [04:53:00] | diamon: | phiber: Yep! |
| [04:53:00] | diamon: | Ask quick, gotta afk in a sec... |
| [04:53:00] | phiber: | diamon in the capture card setup, what do you use for the card. the 150 is not listed |
| [04:53:00] | defaultro: | Chutt, i don't see any info from svn update |
| [04:53:00] | Chutt: | C libs/libavformat/mpegts.c |
| [04:54:00] | Chutt: | wow, lookithat |
| [04:54:00] | diamon: | I think I chose the 250/350 MPEG-2 capture Cards setting, as I recall. |
| [04:54:00] | defaultro: | ok, what should I do? |
| [04:54:00] | Chutt: | i dunno |
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| [04:54:00] | phiber: | tried that. but on svideo its black and white and slow video |
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| [04:54:00] | Chutt: | not apply patches to the source if you're not sure how to unapply them? :p |
| [04:54:00] | defaultro: | ah |
| [04:55:00] | defaultro: | the dvb subtitle patch that i did last time |
| [04:55:00] | defaultro: | that might be it |
| [04:55:00] | defaultro: | that helped a lot :) |
| [04:55:00] | Chutt: | read the svn docs on how to fix conflicts |
| [04:55:00] | Chutt: | phiber, that's a config issue with the driver, not myth |
| [04:55:00] | defaultro: | i'll just pull a new one :) |
| [04:55:00] | Chutt: | bah |
| [04:55:00] | Chutt: | and waste my bandwidth |
| [04:55:00] | phiber: | Chutt is that? |
| [04:55:00] | defaultro: | :) sorry |
| [04:56:00] | diamon: | phiber: Yeah, check your tuner config. I had to set mine manually. What driver version are you using? And what distro? |
| [04:56:00] | phiber: | the newest knoppixmyth |
| [04:56:00] | defaultro: | phiber, I was just watching innovation on wttw-hd about history of fiber optics :) |
| [04:56:00] | phiber: | where are the card configs? |
| [04:56:00] | xris: | weird. supposedly the same source files between 2 machine, one patch fails to apply properly |
| [04:57:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [04:57:00] | Chutt: | what patch? |
| [04:57:00] | defaultro: | what patch are you applying? |
| [04:57:00] | diamon: | phiber: Dunno Knoppmyth at all, sorry. Check your dmesg to see what the ivtv section set the tuner to. I had to set mine manually to 50 (for NTSC) on mine. |
| [04:57:00] | phiber: | diamon where are the tuner configs? and can you toss yours up somewhere. |
| [04:57:00] | xris: | Chutt: something from axel's packages |
| [04:58:00] | phiber: | #options ivtv debug=1 |
| [04:58:00] | phiber: | #options tuner type=2 |
| [04:58:00] | phiber: | that? |
| [04:58:00] | xris: | seems he has another one for .18 cvs fixes, too |
| [04:58:00] | diamon: | phiber: Not much to put up, I just added a tuner=50 to my options in modprobe.conf. |
| [04:58:00] | Chutt: | ah |
| [04:58:00] | diamon: | Yes, that looks sensible. Or pass tuner=whatever to the ivtv module itself. |
| [04:58:00] | xris: | usually his patches are just to make things work better with rpm. |
| [04:58:00] | phiber: | i think i found it |
| [04:58:00] | hadees: | alright so mythtfrontend is opening /dev/dsp fine and aplay works, and i looked through and i can't see anything muted, any idea what to check next? |
| [04:59:00] | hadees: | i looked through the mixer |
| [04:59:00] | Chutt: | xris, trac needs to be able to prevent people without accoutns from setting priority/severity on tickets :p |
| [05:00:00] | xris: | heh, it's been discussed a lot.. you might ask on #trac if there's a way. |
| [05:00:00] | Chutt: | naw |
| [05:00:00] | Chutt: | i'm just griping |
| [05:00:00] | Chutt: | damn, i have more bugs than you again |
| [05:01:00] | Chutt: | i had it down below you last night :( |
| [05:01:00] | xris: | heh |
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| [05:01:00] | xris: | impressive, considering I don't really do much with them. |
| [05:01:00] | xris: | going to close a couple of no one responds to them, though. |
| [05:01:00] | Chutt: | you've got a bunch of patches |
| [05:01:00] | xris: | odd that I don't see the emails. |
| [05:02:00] | Chutt: | most of your tickets are patches, actually |
| [05:02:00] | xris: | yes |
| [05:02:00] | xris: | at least I have few bugs. :) |
| [05:02:00] | Chutt: | when someone attaches a file, it doesn't send out an email :( |
| [05:04:00] | Chutt: | bah, another one! |
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| [05:05:00] | xris: | I think the problem is that they don't come through with "mythweb" in the subject and I miss them. |
| [05:06:00] | xris: | will have to send myself a test one so I can add a filter for it. |
| [05:07:00] | Chutt: | they'll have 'mythweb' in the component field, though |
| [05:07:00] | xris: | yeah, but my mail sorting filter is against the subject |
| [05:08:00] | xris: | odd... ./configure is disabling x11, xv, etc... |
| [05:08:00] | xris: | but turning on opengl |
| [05:08:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [05:08:00] | defaultro: | Chutt, trunk is more bleeding edge right? |
| [05:08:00] | Chutt: | of course |
| [05:08:00] | rjune: | what is the command myth uses to rip a dvd? |
| [05:08:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:08:00] | Chutt: | rjune, it doesn't have one |
| [05:08:00] | defaultro: | i couldnt remember what I had before :( |
| [05:08:00] | xris: | really weird is that it seems to compile fine on my fc3 box. |
| [05:08:00] | defaultro: | how do i verify it? |
| [05:08:00] | rjune: | how does it rip a dvd then? |
| [05:08:00] | xris: | with NO problems |
| [05:08:00] | Chutt: | internal code |
| [05:09:00] | rjune: | Hmmm. |
| [05:09:00] | defaultro: | will it help if i do --version on the backend? |
| [05:09:00] | Chutt: | nope |
| [05:09:00] | rjune: | when I select import DVD, the screen blinks and that's it. |
| [05:10:00] | defaultro: | what's the easiest way to figure out? Is there a file that i can verify? |
| [05:10:00] | Chutt: | nope |
| [05:10:00] | Chutt: | you likely had trunk |
| [05:10:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:10:00] | defaultro: | what made you think that i used trunk before? |
| [05:10:00] | xris: | Chutt: same exact Xext libraries on each system. something funky going on. maybe there's some difference between grabbing from cvs vs svn. |
| [05:10:00] | Chutt: | well, the dvb subtitles patch only applied to trunk |
| [05:10:00] | defaultro: | ah ;) |
| [05:10:00] | Chutt: | xris, dunno |
| [05:10:00] | xris: | but I'm going to give up for now and go eat and hang out with my wife. |
| [05:11:00] | Chutt: | xris, debug the configure script? =) |
| [05:11:00] | xris: | blech. |
| [05:11:00] | xris: | heh |
| [05:11:00] | defaultro: | my wife told me before that she hope she was a computer, LOL |
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| [05:11:00] | Chutt: | shouldn't be _that_ hard |
| [05:12:00] | Chutt: | =) |
| [05:12:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [05:12:00] | Chutt: | it's just a shell script, and fairly simple |
| [05:13:00] | defaultro: | btw, I'm following a thread in linuxdvb, the fusion5hdtv will become supported in 2 months :) |
| [05:13:00] | defaultro: | both lite and gold |
| [05:13:00] | mchou: | 2months?? |
| [05:13:00] | mchou: | wtf. It shouldnt take them that long. |
| [05:13:00] | Chutt: | there's a scheduler issue in the tot, though |
| [05:13:00] | mishehu: | ugh. |
| [05:13:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [05:14:00] | Chutt: | so, maybe not want to update _right_ now |
| [05:14:00] | defaultro: | tot? |
| [05:14:00] | mishehu: | mchou: ok, here's a new challenge... avifile craps out on linking, something about -lgcc_s_32 |
| [05:14:00] | Chutt: | top of tree |
| [05:14:00] | defaultro: | oh ouch |
| [05:14:00] | mchou: | mishehu: I dont use avifile. |
| [05:14:00] | defaultro: | it's finished doing the svn :( |
| [05:14:00] | defaultro: | in trunk |
| [05:15:00] | defaultro: | what's the issue? |
| [05:15:00] | mishehu: | mchou: is avifile actually needed for anything? |
| [05:15:00] | Chutt: | a missing space |
| [05:15:00] | mchou: | mishehu: but clearly you need to change the makefile for that one :) |
| [05:15:00] | defaultro: | can i manually update it locally |
| [05:15:00] | defaultro: | just tell me what file it is |
| [05:15:00] | Chutt: | well, you could just run svn up in a few minutes |
| [05:15:00] | defaultro: | bam |
| [05:17:00] | mishehu: | mchou: I don't find it in any makefile in the tree |
| [05:17:00] | Chutt: | you can update now |
| [05:17:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [05:17:00] | fatmatt: | can anyone recomend a htpc case? |
| [05:18:00] | mchou: | mishehu: heh, somewhere it's passing the lgcc_s_32 flag :) |
| [05:18:00] | defaultro: | Updated to revision 6878 ;) |
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| [05:19:00] | defaultro: | mchou, mac michaels and another michael has been actively posting about the lg 5th gen chip |
| [05:20:00] | mishehu: | mchou: found them in .la files |
| [05:20:00] | defaultro: | 2 months is actually conservative, might be 1 month |
| [05:20:00] | mchou: | defaultro: should be 2wks :) |
| [05:20:00] | defaultro: | but at least, the hardware is available rather than bbti's |
| [05:20:00] | defaultro: | did you get another response from them? |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | naw. |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | I just canceled my order. |
| [05:21:00] | defaultro: | Chutt, is the gameboyadvance included in the latest trunk? |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | which is really too bad for bbti. |
| [05:21:00] | defaultro: | yup |
| [05:21:00] | Chutt: | i dunno |
| [05:21:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:21:00] | defaultro: | mchou, i got zsnes and gba working in linux |
| [05:22:00] | mchou: | nice |
| [05:22:00] | defaultro: | zsnes working in mythtv too |
| [05:22:00] | rjune: | defaultro: which distro? |
| [05:22:00] | defaultro: | fc3 |
| [05:22:00] | defaultro: | my kids were happy last night |
| [05:22:00] | rjune: | i bet |
| [05:22:00] | bryanT: | When I restart, it hangs on "stopping portmap daemon" Any ideas what that's about |
| [05:22:00] | defaultro: | i'm gonna try compiling nintendo64 later without the patch |
| [05:22:00] | xris: | Chutt: is cvs up to date with svn? |
| [05:23:00] | phiber: | how can i tell what tuner settings i need on my card? |
| [05:23:00] | xris: | or did you stop publishing to it? |
| [05:23:00] | defaultro: | xris, he just fixed scheduler in trunk |
| [05:23:00] | Chutt: | xris, stopped |
| [05:23:00] | defaultro: | i just updated it about 2 mins ago |
| [05:23:00] | xris: | ok, that might explain why one machine compiled and the other didn't... |
| [05:23:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [05:23:00] | xris: | defaultro: well, doubt it addresses my issue. |
| [05:24:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:24:00] | Chutt: | nope |
| [05:24:00] | defaultro: | is it still the lirc issue? |
| [05:24:00] | xris: | I'm getting "missing -lXext" errors... which shouldn't be the case. |
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| [05:24:00] | xris: | but going to do non-computer stuff for awhile. |
| [05:24:00] | defaultro: | that's foreign to my eyes :) |
| [05:24:00] | mishehu: | non-computer? |
| [05:24:00] | defaultro: | thought you gonna hang out with wifey :) |
| [05:24:00] | mishehu: | you mean that there's something that doesn't involve a computer in the day? |
| [05:25:00] | mishehu: | isn't wifey a computer? |
| [05:25:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [05:25:00] | mishehu: | or "So I dated a Robot"?? |
| [05:25:00] | mishehu: | Lui Bot |
| [05:25:00] | defaultro: | i talk to my wife via sms |
| [05:25:00] | defaultro: | lol |
| [05:29:00] | bryanT: | Any ideas why my box hangs at "sopping portmap daemon" when I try rebooting? |
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| [05:29:00] | bryanT: | *stopping |
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| [05:33:00] | phiber: | i keep getting this |
| [05:33:00] | phiber: | ivtv: Tuner Type 0, Tuner formats 0x00001000, |
| [05:34:00] | phiber: | in my dmesg. even though i have the tuner=50 optino |
| [05:34:00] | phiber: | er option |
| [05:37:00] | phiber: | ivtv: Radio detected |
| [05:37:00] | phiber: | tuner: Unknown parameter `type' |
| [05:37:00] | phiber: | ivtv: Failed to load module tuner |
| [05:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: Kids had fun with the emulators ?:) |
| [05:41:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [05:41:00] | phiber: | shit. still doesnt work. |
| [05:41:00] | defaultro: | Chutt, configure and make went well on trunk |
| [05:41:00] | phiber: | ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 4 minor 64 |
| [05:41:00] | phiber: | ivtv: Setting Tuner 50 |
| [05:42:00] | defaultro: | GreyFoxx, i was also able to use my playstation 2 controller in linux :D |
| [05:43:00] | rjune: | cool deal |
| [05:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nifty |
| [05:44:00] | defaultro: | I just bought a $10 psx2usb adapter :) |
| [05:44:00] | defaultro: | at Radio Shacl |
| [05:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I committed several changes yesterday around supper and just put a small db error checking update to hopefully catch any errors in the database upgrade |
| [05:44:00] | djperegrine: | I am going to buy a graphics card |
| [05:44:00] | djperegrine: | with a tv out |
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| [05:44:00] | djperegrine: | which one should I get? |
| [05:45:00] | djperegrine: | nvidia boobisouly |
| [05:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Alas, my kid is too young to get any use out of it yet heh |
| [05:45:00] | rjune: | defaultro: what type of controler did it match as? |
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| [05:46:00] | defaultro: | playstation 2 controller |
| [05:46:00] | rjune: | neat. |
| [05:46:00] | rjune: | $`10, eh... Hmmmm |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | but i had to use SDL-test utility to configure keys for gameboy advance |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | zsnes had builtin setting of keys |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | am gonna try nintendo64 later. It failed yetserday w/ the patch |
| [05:48:00] | rjune: | I'm using fc4 for my mythbox atm |
| [05:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: You can reconfigure zsnes to use whatever keys/joypad buttons you want |
| [05:48:00] | rjune: | I'm having some problems I don't think you are |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | yep, i click input #1 and i did the changes |
| [05:48:00] | djperegrine: | eh? |
| [05:49:00] | defaultro: | am gonna try connecting the second ps2 controller |
| [05:49:00] | defaultro: | i think, there is an issue with ps2 via usb if there are 2 connected |
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| [05:50:00] | djperegrine: | which graphics card should I get? |
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| [05:50:00] | rjune: | I've used ATi and Nvidia both |
| [05:50:00] | rjune: | and they both seem to do ok |
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| [05:51:00] | djperegrine: | rjune, a old ati ? |
| [05:51:00] | djperegrine: | or a new? |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | dj, am very happy with my 6600gt nvidia |
| [05:52:00] | rjune: | djperegrine: 9200SE |
| [05:52:00] | rjune: | and Nvidia GF2 |
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| [05:52:00] | djperegrine: | yea you can use the flgx or whatever :( |
| [05:52:00] | djperegrine: | I can't |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | no issues with high definition |
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| [05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man this sucks. my fridge appears to be busted |
| [05:53:00] | rjune: | defaultro: not that I've seen |
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| [05:53:00] | defaultro: | oh no Grey |
| [05:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | the freezer at the top is fine, but the bottom section doesn't appear to be getting cooled at all |
| [05:54:00] | defaultro: | If i had extra money the other day, Great Indoors were selling stainless refs have the price |
| [05:54:00] | defaultro: | s/have/half/ |
| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | store is closing |
| [05:55:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: that sucks |
| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | but unfortunately, they don't do hall away |
| [05:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | At first I thought it was because it had been opened a lot the other day when I first noticed but it's room temp in that part of the thing and all the food is rotten |
| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | oh no |
| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | was there any power outtage? |
| [05:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [05:55:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [05:56:00] | wasabi: | I wonder if there are any plans to embed a video player like the tv player |
| [05:56:00] | wasabi: | having to control mplayer directly is a bit weird. |
| [05:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | Was fine Friday night as far as I know, but saturday I had a BBQ and noticed it didn't seem cold. But we had been in and out of there all day so it didn't suprise me. Looks like something was actually broken |
| [05:56:00] | defaultro: | how old is it? |
| [05:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | wasabi: What do you mean by control it directly ? |
| [05:56:00] | defaultro: | usually 3 years for warranty |
| [05:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | wasabi: And there is an embedded player. Just configure mythvideo to use "internal" |
| [05:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: No idea, came with the house. more than 3 years for sure :) |
| [05:57:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:58:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: really? does it work ok? |
| [05:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | the internal player? *shrug* I've used it a time or two, but have stuck with mplayer just because I've had no problem with it. |
| [05:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | But the internal seemed to work alright |
| [05:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | and if anything it lets you keep the OSD consistant :) |
| [05:59:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [05:59:00] | defaultro: | oh GreyFoxx, dunno if I told you about it. I'm using mplayer to play defcon streams |
| [06:00:00] | rjune: | that and the controls |
| [06:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: I have no idea what that is :) |
| [06:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: I configured mplayer to match the myth keystrokes, but using the internal player would make them consistant as well :) |
| [06:01:00] | rjune: | I'm more concerned about myth crashing when I start the cd ripper and it not (apparently) doing anything when I try to start the dvd ripper |
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| [06:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I' ve never attempted either :) |
| [06:02:00] | rjune: | it used to work, but I changed a bunch of stuff. and now it doesn't work so well. |
| [06:02:00] | wasabi: | Wow I just set it to internal and started a video |
| [06:02:00] | wasabi: | and the screen went blank |
| [06:02:00] | defaultro: | GreyFoxx, oh ok. There are some cool Real streams from them mostly security stuff |
| [06:02:00] | rjune: | so now I'm not sure why it don't work |
| [06:03:00] | wasabi: | What does the internal player use to play? |
| [06:03:00] | wasabi: | why might it not work? |
| [06:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | wasabi: It uses the ffmpeg/libavcodec libraries. but I haven't used it enough to even guess what might be wrong |
| [06:06:00] | defaultro: | Chutt, I need your help again but this time in mythplugins. Look at this, http://pastebin.com/316751 |
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| [06:07:00] | wasabi: | Sure doesn't work with many formats. |
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| [06:07:00] | Chutt: | works with anything ffmpeg supports |
| [06:08:00] | Chutt: | defaultro, if you're going to be using svn checkouts, you have to read the commit messages |
| [06:08:00] | defaultro: | I'm only find mmx.h in ./mythmusic/mythmusic/goom/mmx.h |
| [06:09:00] | defaultro: | are you talking about the commits in gossamer-threads/lists/commits? |
| [06:09:00] | Chutt: | yes |
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| [06:10:00] | defaultro: | I'm sorry, I'm there but which one there? |
| [06:10:00] | Chutt: | all of them. |
| [06:10:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [06:11:00] | wasabi: | Hah. This AVI crashes mythtv |
| [06:13:00] | pce-matty: | can't believe the cafe next door is out of coffee... how am i meant to work under these conditions? ;) |
| [06:13:00] | defaultro: | oh no, i heard a tick sound in my laptop :( |
| [06:13:00] | defaultro: | mouse froze too |
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| [06:13:00] | pce-matty: | defaultro: time to DFT it :( |
| [06:14:00] | defaultro: | DFT? |
| [06:14:00] | phiber: | someone paste me their /etc/mythtv/modules/ivtv0 |
| [06:14:00] | defaultro: | defragment> |
| [06:14:00] | defaultro: | ? |
| [06:15:00] | pce-matty: | defaultro: Drive Fitness Test... from ibm iirc |
| [06:15:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [06:15:00] | defaultro: | i think, it's gonna die soon, i'm sure |
| [06:16:00] | defaultro: | I'm very sure about the harddisk head sound ticking :( |
| [06:16:00] | pce-matty: | so am i :) |
| [06:16:00] | defaultro: | how much are harddisk laptops? they cost higher right? |
| [06:16:00] | phiber: | defaultro not really |
| [06:17:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:17:00] | defaultro: | Chutt, is the svn 18-release tree being updated too? |
| [06:17:00] | defaultro: | it makes the sound again :( |
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| [06:18:00] | vegeetz: | anyone using nvidia card with svideo out? |
| [06:18:00] | NightBird: | good night! |
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| [06:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | vegeetz: Yes, many :) |
| [06:19:00] | vegeetz: | does it seem slow |
| [06:19:00] | vegeetz: | or laggy |
| [06:19:00] | vegeetz: | ? |
| [06:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not really no |
| [06:19:00] | vegeetz: | hmm |
| [06:19:00] | vegeetz: | are you using tvoverscan? |
| [06:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [06:19:00] | vegeetz: | hmm |
| [06:20:00] | vegeetz: | i suffering from a bit blurry live and recording viewing |
| [06:20:00] | vegeetz: | and a little slow ness |
| [06:20:00] | vegeetz: | here and there |
| [06:21:00] | vegeetz: | any good xorg configs |
| [06:21:00] | vegeetz: | i could see |
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| [06:22:00] | ridd1er: | hey all. |
| [06:22:00] | ridd1er: | someone available to help me with some lirc troubles? |
| [06:23:00] | ridd1er: | i am having an issue getting my realmagic ir reciever working. |
| [06:23:00] | defaultro: | Chutt, I read all the first page in /commits and I didn't see anything related to my issue |
| [06:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | vegeetz: feel free to look at the one on the frontend I'm using right now: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/xorg.conf |
| [06:23:00] | ridd1er: | i was working previously but since then I have had to rebuild the box. |
| [06:23:00] | ridd1er: | now.. its giving me the cannot reset tty error |
| [06:24:00] | Randall64: | wlan0: encryption modes supported: WEP, WPA with TKIP, WPA with AES/CCMP |
| [06:24:00] | Randall64: | score |
| [06:25:00] | vegeetz: | Option "TVOverScan" "0.979" |
| [06:25:00] | vegeetz: | dang |
| [06:25:00] | vegeetz: | is that legit? |
| [06:25:00] | vegeetz: | lol |
| [06:25:00] | vegeetz: | i have it at .9 |
| [06:25:00] | vegeetz: | but i still |
| [06:25:00] | vegeetz: | have a black bar |
| [06:25:00] | vegeetz: | at the bottom |
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| [06:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | vegeetz: Yup, it's valid |
| [06:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | you can try playing with the nvidia-settings app and see if that gets you anywhere |
| [06:27:00] | vegeetz: | do you still have a black bar |
| [06:27:00] | vegeetz: | at the bottom? |
| [06:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | though I do remember a "recent" version of the nvidia drivers that didn't properly honour the overscan settings. |
| [06:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nope |
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| [06:29:00] | vegeetz: | do you have a new or old tv? |
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| [06:29:00] | vegeetz: | does your xv work in mplayer? |
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| [06:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | new and old throughout the house, and yes xv works fine |
| [06:30:00] | vegeetz: | okay, lets start |
| [06:30:00] | vegeetz: | you are using twinview? |
| [06:30:00] | vegeetz: | like you are using your monitor and tv at the same time? |
| [06:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [06:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use to, long ago |
| [06:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | but haven't in a year |
| [06:30:00] | vegeetz: | ohh |
| [06:30:00] | vegeetz: | cause the configs are configed for twinview |
| [06:30:00] | vegeetz: | it seems |
| [06:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | had no problems back then either |
| [06:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, the twinview lines are commented out :) |
| [06:31:00] | vegeetz: | ohh yeah |
| [06:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | note the "#"'s :) |
| [06:31:00] | vegeetz: | do you have a enw tv |
| [06:31:00] | vegeetz: | ? |
| [06:31:00] | vegeetz: | any reason why you are not doing 1024x768 |
| [06:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | both. I have several frontends.' |
| [06:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | why would I use 1024x768? Since I'm recording standard definition TV it makes no sense to use such a resolution :) |
| [06:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm using the same resolution as I record at. |
| [06:32:00] | Russ: | 720x480 is the max really |
| [06:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | pretty much |
| [06:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | anything higher and your video card is just scalling it down to fit on the tv |
| [06:34:00] | defaultro: | got to shutdown guys, harddisk is really bad |
| [06:34:00] | vegeetz: | hmm |
| [06:34:00] | vegeetz: | okay |
| [06:34:00] | vegeetz: | ill scale it back to 640x480 |
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| [06:37:00] | vegeetz: | okay |
| [06:37:00] | vegeetz: | im put in the configs |
| [06:37:00] | vegeetz: | its GO TIME!! |
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| [06:45:00] | vegeetz: | man that didnt like it |
| [06:45:00] | vegeetz: | lol |
| [06:45:00] | vegeetz: | damn render accel crashes my box |
| [06:49:00] | fatmatt: | anyone using the fusionhdtv card? |
| [06:51:00] | vegeetz: | hmmm |
| [06:51:00] | vegeetz: | now the borders are bigger at 640x480 |
| [06:51:00] | hadees: | alright so mythtfrontend isn't playing audio but /dev/dsp is opening fine and aplay works, and i looked through mixer and i can't see anything muted, any idea what to check next? |
| [06:51:00] | vegeetz: | at .979 overscan |
| [06:51:00] | vegeetz: | what should i do? |
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| [06:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | vegeetz: try using the nvidia-settings tool |
| [06:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | And maybe a different version of the driver |
| [06:52:00] | ** GreyFoxx goes to bed ** | |
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| [07:01:00] | vegeetz: | hmm i get some stuttering |
| [07:01:00] | vegeetz: | every so often |
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| [07:24:00] | roz: | Hi All, my distro got hosed, but I did successfully back up data. Can I restore the MySQL db from files on the drive? I don't have a mySQL dump... just the files on the drive. Any ideas anyone? |
| [07:28:00] | didj: | roz: if its the same mysql version, *might* be able to just drop the db in |
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| [07:31:00] | Russ: | is there any way to debug an IR transmitter? |
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| [07:37:00] | fatmatt: | anyone remember how to scroll between different resolutions in xwindows? |
| [07:39:00] | Russ: | ctlt-alt-<numpad +/numpad-> |
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| [07:49:00] | Russ: | hmmm |
| [07:49:00] | Russ: | it looks like you just can't send codes to yourself |
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| [08:36:00] | spellbound: | myth seems to fill up my hard drive even though I've set it to not record if there's less than 4GB left...? |
| [08:37:00] | Russ: | logs? |
| [08:38:00] | spellbound: | dag and dries both have nice stuff. and can't forget freshrpms |
| [08:38:00] | spellbound: | whoops. pasted the wrong buffer |
| [08:38:00] | xris: | hey, I said that. |
| [08:38:00] | spellbound: | xris, yes, I copied it and added in all those repos :) |
| [08:38:00] | xris: | heh |
| [08:39:00] | xris: | just beware that they can occasionally conflict with each other. |
| [08:39:00] | spellbound: | xris, ok |
| [08:39:00] | xris: | I generally keep atrpms OFF unless I want something specific, since axel is most likely to break compatibility with core stuff. |
| [08:40:00] | spellbound: | russ, ERROR: file I/O problem in safe_write(), errcnt = 1: No space left on device (ad infinitum) |
| [08:40:00] | spellbound: | xris, yes, got burned by atrpms. I don't think I'll use those anymore |
| [08:41:00] | xris: | unfortunately, he's the best source for myth stuff. |
| [08:41:00] | Russ: | K, i think you need to delete your logs and start over |
| [08:41:00] | Russ: | caus out of space errors aren't going to tell you how you got to the point of being out of space |
| [08:41:00] | spellbound: | russ, before those start, it's just normal stuff. nothing indicating that myth has discovered that it's low on room |
| [08:41:00] | xris: | but yeah, it's a pity. axel is a nice guy, but can be very stubborn about how things work. and he differs in opinion from the semi-official fedora stuff. |
| [08:42:00] | Russ: | so you free space isn't being taken up by logs? |
| [08:42:00] | spellbound: | russ, it's on another drive |
| [08:42:00] | Russ: | and you can't figure out where the space is going? |
| [08:43:00] | spellbound: | xris, seems like it would be pretty obvious that he should change something when his stuff completely breaks upgrades... |
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| [08:43:00] | xris: | yeah. part of that is that he doesn't yet have the infrastructure for people to help him maintain things, so it's just him... |
| [08:43:00] | spellbound: | russ, it's going to recordings. it just keeps recording until... poff. no space left |
| [08:44:00] | Russ: | so...whats yer problem |
| [08:44:00] | spellbound: | xris, he does a pretty impressive job then, nevertheless. that's a lot of packages to keep track off. he must have some pretty nifty automated systems |
| [08:44:00] | Russ: | but a new drive |
| [08:44:00] | stoffel: | spellbound: just jumping in here, but you're sure it's not out of inodes? |
| [08:45:00] | spellbound: | russ, stoffel, it's a 200GB drive that I also use for a couple of other things, so I would prefer that myth doesn't just record until all the room is taken up. so I've set the setting that says to not record if there's less than n MB free. I've set that to 4GB. still, it just recordes until there are zero bytes left... |
| [08:45:00] | xris: | spellbound: yes.. but no time to set it up so that anyone but him can do it (he's been trying to get that going for over a year now) |
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| [08:46:00] | spellbound: | xris, ah |
| [08:46:00] | Russ: | so it might be not smart and checking / |
| [08:47:00] | spellbound: | russ, doesn't seem like it does, but the setting makes it sound like it would |
| [08:51:00] | spellbound: | brb |
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| [09:25:00] | ricochet: | anyone around to help me troubleshoot installing ivtv? make/install seems to work, modprobe ivtv doesnt find it. already ran depmod -a ivtv 0.3.3k |
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| [09:29:00] | ricochet: | nevermind, got it. running debian sid, had to copy modules from /lib/modules/2.6.11/extra to /lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686-smp/extra |
| [09:35:00] | Foxamemnon: | Hello. Got a question about running nuvexport on a non-master backend machine. The first step of performing the transcode is to fork off mythtranscode, but when I run this manually, it just exits with no error and without creating any pipes or forking. |
| [09:35:00] | Foxamemnon: | I am successfully running it on my master backend right now. |
| [09:36:00] | Foxamemnon: | What could be wrong? It can access the DB. Is there some special config needed in the slave backend? |
| [09:50:00] | stoffel: | Foxamemnon: is there actually a slave backend running on this non-master backend? |
| [09:51:00] | stoffel: | nuvexport doesn't need mythbackend to be up, but iirc it needs the proper RecordFilePrefix setting in the database for this host |
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| [09:58:00] | Foxamemnon: | stoffel: Well, at first I tried without an actual slave backend running, since I don't need any of it's abilities. Then I tried again after setting up the slave backend. Neither worked. I do, however, have RecordFilePrefix set properly. |
| [09:59:00] | laga: | did you mount your files over nfs or samba? |
| [10:00:00] | stoffel: | gotta leave now |
| [10:00:00] | Foxamemnon: | Over nfs. |
| [10:06:00] | ricochet: | can anyone tell me what this IVTV_IOC_G_CODEC:: Bad address error is? |
| [10:08:00] | laga: | bye stoffel |
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| [11:27:00] | ridd1er: | hello again all. |
| [11:28:00] | ridd1er: | has anyone here successfully installed lirc using the pixelview driver? |
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| [11:49:00] | EL_Whistey: | Hah. I have the email address of one of nvidia's kernel devs. |
| [11:57:00] | Towner: | tell him to fix the the damn blue lines I get when using overlay |
| [11:58:00] | Towner: | also lobby for a proper open source driver and not that piece of turd binary installer :s |
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| [12:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Towner: you can get rid of the blue lines on your own :) And I personally don't care if the driver is open source(even though that would be nice) but more that they are providing fairly regular updates to it :) |
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| [14:27:00] | rootrider: | well.. my cable provider is completely swithing their channel lineups around this morning.. and zap2it hasn't done anything to update their listings yet... |
| [14:28:00] | rootrider: | how can I manually 'remap' the channels so I can continue recording until zap2it catches up? |
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| [14:51:00] | Dolph: | Hi all. I know this isn't directly related to MythTV but in my case it's in relation to a MythTV system I'm running. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the Logitech Harmony remote. I'm looking for a universal remote and the Harmony ones look great, but no-one seems to be talking about configuring the remote in Linux (which makes me think it may not be possible). |
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| [15:10:00] | Towner: | i bought a ir receiver recommended by lirc and one of the one for all remotes personally |
| [15:20:00] | Dolph: | I do actually have a one for all remote already (which controls something like 4 devices), that came with my card. I also have an irman, I think it is (a universal lirc receiver), but I like the level of flexibility you get with a Harmony. |
| [15:21:00] | Dolph: | The one for all remotes also look good, but they all seem to have rediculously small memory when it comes to learning another remote control (the most expensive, most flexible one, which controls up to 10 devices, can still only store a maximum of 30 custom remote signals) |
| [15:21:00] | Towner: | just check what standards the remote supports |
| [15:22:00] | Towner: | buy a receiver which supports the same standard and you can build your own conf for lirc shouldnt be too diffciult |
| [15:22:00] | Dolph: | In the case of the Harmony it's more an issue of configuration. You have to install their software and connect the remote via USB to your PC. The system then directs you to their website where you can select your devices and it automatically configures the remote. You can get it to learn from other remotes as well, but it seems that still requires the USB / software setup (!) |
| [15:23:00] | Towner: | so long as the receiver supports the same standard you shouldnt have aproblem |
| [15:23:00] | Towner: | so youll have to configure it in windows for linux :s |
| [15:23:00] | Dolph: | Indeed. That's what I'd like to avoid :) |
| [15:23:00] | Dolph: | And I think the solution to that is "get a different remote" |
| [15:24:00] | Towner: | hehe |
| [15:24:00] | Dolph: | I was just wondering if anyone else has used the Harmony and even tried connecting it up over USB in Linux. No-one seems to be talking about it. |
| [15:24:00] | Towner: | im only just setting up my own so i cant really give much more advice than that until i get mine sorted |
| [15:24:00] | Dolph: | (I mean in general – I've googled) |
| [15:24:00] | Dolph: | That's ccol. Cheers. |
| [15:24:00] | Dolph: | ccol == cool |
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| [15:25:00] | Towner: | :) |
| [15:27:00] | garvey2: | yow wha gwaan |
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| [15:49:00] | cyberknet: | *yawn* |
| [15:54:00] | Discipulus: | Good morning. |
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| [16:39:00] | Tatster: | Hi – I have a question. I don't have Myth yet but I am looking at it. What sort of bandwidth do I need between servers? IE If the master server with a capture card is on a wired LAN, could a frontend server be connected via 11Mbps or 54Mbps wireless? |
| [16:40:00] | cyberknet: | Tatster: I've heard that it can be done with a strong 54Mbps signal |
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| [16:43:00] | sphing: | Tatser my front end and backend are connected via 10mbps hub |
| [16:43:00] | sphing: | it can be done |
| [16:44:00] | safe: | ive done it over both A and G |
| [16:45:00] | Tatster: | That is good news, what I'm thinking is that I can have the master server permanently on in my roof, and have the frontend machine connected via wireless in the lounge. Am I correct in thinking that the master server does the scheduling, and it can be controlled from the frontend or via the web? |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | correct |
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| [16:48:00] | Tatster: | excellent |
| [16:48:00] | safe: | just curious whats your front-end box look like for hardware |
| [16:49:00] | Towner: | im building my own custom case with a ps2 in it :) |
| [16:51:00] | Krazylegz: | Whoa, a case with a PS2 in it. |
| [16:51:00] | ** Krazylegz checks the #mythtv-users log ** | |
| [16:51:00] | Tatster: | I don't have any hardware yet – just checking before buying! |
| [16:52:00] | Krazylegz: | What's the URL for that log? I lost it already. |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | MythLogBot: help |
| [16:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Ooo, thanks. |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | the only command that POS understands :) |
| [16:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, I tried to PM it. |
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| [16:57:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha, the bot logged that I PMed it. That's useful... |
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| [16:57:00] | Krazylegz: | I guess if I wanted something in the log but I didn't want to clog up the room, that might be handy. |
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| [17:15:00] | ** Randall64 builds 2.6.12.3 ** | |
| [17:15:00] | Randall64: | Just like the old 1.odd days! |
| [17:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Eh? |
| [17:15:00] | Randall64: | trying to get hardware support |
| [17:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, haha. |
| [17:16:00] | Krazylegz: | You're before my time, old man! |
| [17:16:00] | Randall64: | Of course this won't take >=8 hours to build |
| [17:16:00] | ** Randall64 chases Krazylegz with his cane ** | |
| [17:16:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh no! |
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| [17:22:00] | HAGI1: | HY |
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| [17:26:00] | Krazylegz: | That was short-lived. |
| [17:27:00] | Towner: | :s |
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| [17:28:00] | Towner: | Krazylegz, the case im doing is my own mod i havent found anything to say anyones done it before, quite easy though |
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| [17:41:00] | Randall64: | Man, distribution kernels are big. |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | would suck over dialup |
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| [17:45:00] | Randall64: | Man, I need some crossdistcc to get my G5 into the mix. |
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| [18:00:00] | cyberknet: | Most everything sucks over dialup. |
| [18:01:00] | cyberknet: | even patching a kernel from one version to the next sucks over dialup. |
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| [18:07:00] | wasabi_: | What do ya'll recommend for an IR receiver? |
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| [18:08:00] | cyberknet: | wasabi: I recommend a PS/2 IR keyboard's receiver as an IR receiver. YMMV. |
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| [18:12:00] | Krazylegz: | towner: What's the rest of your idea? |
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| [18:23:00] | cyberknet: | Krazylegz: Towner quit a while back ;) |
| [18:24:00] | cyberknet: | I know you also said that a while back, but still =) Better late than never. |
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| [18:27:00] | Krazylegz: | cyberknet: You make a good point. |
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| [18:36:00] | cyberknet: | Krazylegz: occasionally. |
| [18:37:00] | cyberknet: | I can tell you about my mad mod idea though. |
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| [18:45:00] | Krazylegz: | Go for it. |
| [18:46:00] | Krazylegz: | I thought this Pundit-R was really cool, but my fastest computer is my 800mhz P3. It's been a while since I've done this stuff. |
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| [18:52:00] | cyberknet: | I've got it all planned out, all I need is some sponsorship. You start with an 06 Dodge Charger (Daytona / RT). Then you take a mini-itx system, and integrate it into the rear passenger video display system. I figure total sponsorship required shouldn't exceed about $45,000. |
| [18:52:00] | cyberknet: | =) |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | then you blow it to kingdom come |
| [18:53:00] | cyberknet: | the Daytona/RT Charger Myth |
| [18:54:00] | cyberknet: | Who wouldn't want sole sponsorship rights on the only Mythtical '06 Dodge Charger DayTona/RT in existance? |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | I could think of a lot of people who wound't want that |
| [18:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. |
| [18:54:00] | Krazylegz: | I just met a guy who has a new Charger. |
| [18:55:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: Not So Helpful =) Focus on who *would* want sponsorship rights. =) |
| [18:55:00] | cyberknet: | Krazylegz: Yeah, but it has to be the Daytona/RT model. |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | you would |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | I can think of people who'd want sponsorship rights on the C4 used to obliterate it |
| [18:56:00] | cyberknet: | Nah, I don't want to sponsor my own project. that wouldn't be cool, and you could argue that the sponsor had too much of an interest in the outcome of the project, and potentially would interfere with artistic license of the artist. |
| [18:56:00] | cyberknet: | I couldn't put that kind of weight on myself. |
| [18:56:00] | cyberknet: | ;) |
| [18:56:00] | cyberknet: | but geez, have you taken a look at the engine they put in that thing? 350 HP 5.7L V8 stock. |
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| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [18:57:00] | cyberknet: | you could barely get from home to work without stopping at a gas station! |
| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | big engines don't enthuse me |
| [18:57:00] | rjune: | damn. |
| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | I'll take a 350HP 3.5L V6, thanks |
| [18:57:00] | cyberknet: | rjune: You can say that again. |
| [18:57:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: of course. any sane person would. |
| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | which is why only Yanks will buy that monstrosity |
| [18:58:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: I was not in awe of the engine. You might have detected that by my followup comment. |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | oh, and Saudis |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:58:00] | cyberknet: | anyway. if I want 350HP stock, you can bet your ass it's gonna be from a Porsche, not a Dodge. |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, or a Nissan |
| [18:58:00] | cyberknet: | the 380Z is very nice. |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | or something along those lines |
| [18:59:00] | cyberknet: | I would have a hard time choosing between a Carrera or a 380Z |
| [18:59:00] | Beirdo: | I wouldn't |
| [18:59:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:59:00] | Beirdo: | gimme the Porsche |
| [18:59:00] | cyberknet: | Luckily, my financial situation has blessed me with never having to make that decision =P" |
| [18:59:00] | Beirdo: | you can take the 380Z |
| [18:59:00] | ** cyberknet pukes all over the nearest vette ** | |
| [18:59:00] | Beirdo: | now if it were a Boxter, it'd be the opposite |
| [19:00:00] | Beirdo: | dammit, I'm tired |
| [19:00:00] | Beirdo: | Boxster |
| [19:00:00] | cyberknet: | Hmm... the Carrera is nice. But if it came down to it, I'd let you have the Carerra, and I'd take the 380Z |
| [19:00:00] | cyberknet: | Not because I like the 380Z any better, but just because I like it as much, and it'd make both of us happy. |
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| [19:00:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:00:00] | Beirdo: | and the insurance companies too |
| [19:01:00] | cyberknet: | But I damn well better get a twin turbo. |
| [19:01:00] | cyberknet: | ;) |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | my old boss managed to blow the turbos (both) in an Audi A6 twin turbo |
| [19:01:00] | cyberknet: | How about I take a 380Z and you can have a Corvette? =P" |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | or rather.. his wife did |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | I don't want a Corvette. they suck |
| [19:02:00] | Beirdo: | I want to be able to turn corners, thanks |
| [19:02:00] | cyberknet: | hah |
| [19:03:00] | Beirdo: | turbos suck when all the impellers are not attached suddenly |
| [19:03:00] | Beirdo: | impeller blades rather |
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| [19:03:00] | cyberknet: | Yes, I imagine they rather do suck in that case. |
| [19:04:00] | Beirdo: | I wish I had the camera for that event |
| [19:04:00] | cyberknet: | heh |
| [19:04:00] | Beirdo: | I'd bet there was prodigious amounts of smoke billowing |
| [19:04:00] | cyberknet: | You buy an Audi A6 with twin turbos and a decent video camera, and I'll bust the two turbos |
| [19:04:00] | cyberknet: | ;) |
| [19:04:00] | Beirdo: | it took them about 4 years |
| [19:04:00] | Discipulus: | heh |
| [19:04:00] | Beirdo: | but then kaBOOM |
| [19:04:00] | cyberknet: | and if you're lucky, I'll bust the engine afterwards. |
| [19:05:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:05:00] | Discipulus: | so what's the best car to buy if you want lots of power but not a high price? |
| [19:05:00] | cyberknet: | Discipulus: Porsche |
| [19:05:00] | Beirdo: | buy? |
| [19:05:00] | Beirdo: | steal... |
| [19:05:00] | Beirdo: | then the price is right |
| [19:05:00] | Beirdo: | but seriously? |
| [19:05:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: Price is 20 to life round here.... |
| [19:05:00] | Discipulus: | cyberknet, aren't porche's expensive? |
| [19:05:00] | Beirdo: | hmm.. a 80s Porsche would be OK |
| [19:05:00] | cyberknet: | Discipulus: Ferrari are expensive. Lambourghini are expensive. Porsche are cheap. |
| [19:05:00] | Beirdo: | and yes, they are expensive |
| [19:06:00] | Discipulus: | how much is an 80s porche? |
| [19:06:00] | Beirdo: | go look online :) |
| [19:06:00] | Discipulus: | if it's more than 5 grand I can't afford it |
| [19:06:00] | Discipulus: | lol |
| [19:06:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: I dont think Porsches are *that* expensive. |
| [19:06:00] | Beirdo: | the maintenance will kill you though if you are used to a US-made POS |
| [19:06:00] | Atamido_: | lol |
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| [19:06:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: Considering what you *could* pay for Ferrari or Lambourghini of similar stats. |
| [19:06:00] | Beirdo: | cyberknet: a new Carrera in the package I'd like... > $120k |
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| [19:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Blowing both of the turbos on that 2.7T motor in the A6 isn't that hard. |
| [19:07:00] | cyberknet: | 120k < 250k |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | I'd never buy a Lamborghini |
| [19:07:00] | Krazylegz: | I have that same motor in my S4. |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | Krazylegz: yeah, but I missed it :) |
| [19:07:00] | jvs_: | woooooo |
| [19:07:00] | jvs_: | European Cars |
| [19:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Indeed. |
| [19:07:00] | Discipulus: | I live in the US btw |
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| [19:07:00] | cyberknet: | European cars kick ass. |
| [19:07:00] | jvs_: | what the hell is going on? :D |
| [19:07:00] | Discipulus: | so what's the best car to get for like 5 grand? |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | Discipulus: my condolences. US cars suck |
| [19:07:00] | cyberknet: | Discipulus: there is *no* good car for 5 grand. |
| [19:07:00] | ** Atamido_ would buy a Lamb if he was rolling in dough. ** | |
| [19:08:00] | Atamido_: | A Countash though. |
| [19:08:00] | cyberknet: | Discipulus: Go get a second hand Neon and be glad it's not a Metro. |
| [19:08:00] | Krazylegz: | You can get a Ford Contour SVT for $5k, if you can find one. |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | I'd buy a Ferrari first |
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| [19:08:00] | Krazylegz: | I like that car. |
| [19:08:00] | setre: | is anyone else using nvidia tv out? I can't get it to work :( |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | or two or three |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | OK, who let in the on-topic person? :) |
| [19:08:00] | BillyBoBob: | ok, gave Myth a try last night; installed a PVR-150 in my linux server, ran up the back, tried a KnoppMyth bootable-CD front end on another machine and it works, very very cool. *But* .... |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | setre: I use ATI currently |
| [19:08:00] | ** cyberknet ducks out since the topic moved back to MythTV from cars ** | |
| [19:08:00] | BillyBoBob: | now the hard decision: two seperate boxes, or one |
| [19:09:00] | Atamido: | Beirdo: People *use* ATI? |
| [19:09:00] | BillyBoBob: | I like the 2 cause I can put a wimpy machine in the TV room |
| [19:09:00] | ** Beirdo runs over cyberknet's PVR with a Lamborghini SUV ** | |
| [19:09:00] | Discipulus: | cyberknet, last I checked Neon's sucked too |
| [19:09:00] | Beirdo: | Atamido: yes, and it works well |
| [19:09:00] | BillyBoBob: | but don't fully understand all the ramifications; any hints ? |
| [19:09:00] | Atamido: | o_O |
| [19:09:00] | BillyBoBob: | guidence? |
| [19:09:00] | Discipulus: | Krazylegz, What's so special about the Contour SVT? |
| [19:09:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: Canadalander |
| [19:09:00] | setre: | the annoying thing is that I have had tv out working with this card (geforce3 ti200) before).. nvtv doesn't show any selectable modes |
| [19:09:00] | Atamido: | My Radeon AIW is a paperwieght in Linux. |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | so don't buy an AIW |
| [19:10:00] | Atamido: | Shoulda told me that 5 years ago. |
| [19:10:00] | cyberknet: | I'll second htat. |
| [19:10:00] | cyberknet: | Don't buy an AIW. |
| [19:10:00] | cyberknet: | waste of money. |
| [19:10:00] | Krazylegz: | I loved my Neon. |
| [19:10:00] | cyberknet: | Buy a $50 video card, and a $120 capture card. Money much better spent. |
| [19:11:00] | cyberknet: | Discipulus: neons dont suck anywhere NEAR as much as a Metro. At least a neon can run the AC and move forward without being on a downhill slope... |
| [19:11:00] | ** Atamido will spend probably $200 on his next video card. ** | |
| [19:11:00] | Discipulus: | cyberknet, lmao |
| [19:11:00] | Atamido: | Discipulus: Buy a used Sentra. |
| [19:11:00] | jvs_: | I'd get an A6 TDI as a Limousine, a DB9 for everything else :) |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | cyberknet: the Metro with turbo might be a fun thing... use the engine for a sandrail |
| [19:11:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: heh |
| [19:11:00] | Discipulus: | Atamido, what's special about a sentra? |
| [19:12:00] | Atamido: | It breaks less often than the Neon. |
| [19:12:00] | Krazylegz: | I must have gotten a really good Neon. I had a problem with a control stalk and a fuel pump. |
| [19:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Of course, the hydraulic tensioner failed and caused the timing to jump, which led to the demise of that motor, and the end of my ownership of the vehicle. |
| [19:13:00] | Atamido: | In 5 years, I've had to replace the starter and battery cable. |
| [19:13:00] | Atamido: | And it was a used '97. |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | Neons are the Bic lighter of cars |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | cheap and disposable |
| [19:13:00] | Atamido: | And explosive... |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | at times :) |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | not like the Pinto though |
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| [19:15:00] | Atamido: | Lets see who Google thinks is better. http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_ . . . issan+sentra |
| [19:16:00] | Atamido: | The Sentra is better! |
| [19:17:00] | Atamido: | Or rather, the Neon is worse. http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_ . . . sentra+lemon |
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| [19:25:00] | BillyBoBob: | What are the downsides running a MythTV frontend/backend seperate? |
| [19:25:00] | BillyBoBob: | (assuming I have 100 MBps between them) |
| [19:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | None I can think of |
| [19:25:00] | stoffel: | 2 machines? |
| [19:25:00] | BillyBoBob: | Running at 10 Mbps, I noticed channel changin was a wee slow; will 100 Mbps improve this? |
| [19:26:00] | BillyBoBob: | 2 machiens |
| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | BillyBoBob: Well, there is an inherent second or 2 delay changing channels regardless, but if your particular lag was BW related it would improve |
| [19:27:00] | BillyBoBob: | GreyFoxx: Ok, it is inherent. Thanks; I had no way to check as my back-end is headless and my test front end has a NIC linux doesn't like so I ended up using an old 10Mbs |
| [19:27:00] | BillyBoBob: | GreyFoxx: about 2s seemed right |
| [19:29:00] | BillyBoBob: | Some of the plug-ins confuse me; do they run front-end or back-end? |
| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Plugins are frontend |
| [19:29:00] | BillyBoBob: | Ah. Makes sense |
| [19:30:00] | BillyBoBob: | So they will need *some* resources |
| [19:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | While they are running of course, otherwise it's just whatever diskspace the app takes which is pretty insignificant :) |
| [19:30:00] | BillyBoBob: | Trying to figure out how to spec out front end; Low Noise, Low Heat and Low Cost (in that order) are the considerations |
| [19:31:00] | BillyBoBob: | Since it isn't returnable, I am having a hard time deciding; want really low power, but afraid to underpower the machine |
| [19:31:00] | BillyBoBob: | if I screw it up, out $$$ |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah There are many considerations |
| [19:32:00] | BillyBoBob: | I am thinking on the front end, diskspace is almost insignificant |
| [19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah, very |
| [19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Some just go diskless for the frontend |
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| [19:34:00] | BillyBoBob: | My test set-up was diskless (KnoppMyth didn't like my CD ROM on the Secondary IDE controller) |
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| [19:35:00] | BillyBoBob: | so I yanked the HD and just used the damn CD-ROm |
| [19:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | That would work |
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| [19:36:00] | BillyBoBob: | Hmmm...so I should have no performance, etc. penality for using 2 comps? Just veryifying yet again cause I am gonna drop good cash on this ... |
| [19:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | No penalty I can think of. Assuming you have enough cpu/ram and your network isn't choked it shouldn't be an issue :) |
| [19:38:00] | BillyBoBob: | Well, I can always unchoke the network by putting in another Nic in the Linux box |
| [19:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Can't say I even have a problem with my remote frontends |
| [19:38:00] | BillyBoBob: | thanks for taking the time, GreyFoxx |
| [19:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | What kind of capture card(s) are you gonna use ? |
| [19:39:00] | BillyBoBob: | I have a PVR-150, it is working quite well |
| [19:39:00] | BillyBoBob: | I have the back-end running pretty smoothly |
| [19:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahh, cool |
| [19:39:00] | BillyBoBob: | it needs more space, but HD's are cheap |
| [19:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [19:40:00] | BillyBoBob: | I would like another tuner card, but I have no more slots available... |
| [19:40:00] | BillyBoBob: | heh |
| [19:40:00] | BillyBoBob: | I guess it doesn't need a sound card :) |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | so buy a PVR-500 |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well When you setup the frontends, if you want to lower the CPU used to decode you can look at using xvmc (assuming the drivers support it) |
| [19:41:00] | BillyBoBob: | yes, the nVidia GeForce MX series, correct? |
| [19:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | personally I prefer to overbuild a little :) |
| [19:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [19:42:00] | BillyBoBob: | I like overbuild, but noise is a huge concern. I built a PVR couple years back (too early it turned out, tech sucked) and noise was the one of the primary reasons I killed it |
| [19:42:00] | BillyBoBob: | mind you, better fans available now, better heat sinks, and it woudl be front-end only, not back and front |
| [19:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Noise never bothers me since the sound from whatever I'm watching is much louder :) |
| [19:43:00] | BillyBoBob: | ah, well, I read and stuff in that room too, don't wannt power on/off all the time |
| [19:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | The EPIA M10000 boards have support for onboard mpeg decoding, come with TVout and are fanless |
| [19:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | though I've not used one personally |
| [19:44:00] | BillyBoBob: | though if hibernate/sleep actually worked ... |
| [19:44:00] | BillyBoBob: | hmmm |
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| [19:49:00] | ** xris goes off to click some adlinks at mythtv.beirdo.ca ** | |
| [19:49:00] | ** Beirdo tries desparately to stay awake ** | |
| [19:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Should we switch off on that job? |
| [19:50:00] | xris: | Beirdo: you stay up all night or something? |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | I'm just tired |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | went to bed at 11pm, woke up at 7 |
| [19:52:00] | Darth_X: | try working night shift |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | done 3–6am maint windows before |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | that's fun |
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| [19:53:00] | xris: | ick |
| [19:53:00] | xris: | Darth_X: night shift isn't an issue.. it's when you have conflicting schedules and your body can't get into a rhythm |
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| [19:54:00] | Darth_X: | right |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | for me, it's just the lack of caffeine, I think |
| [19:54:00] | ** laga went to bed at 11pm and woke up at 9:30am and still tired ** | |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | which will be remedied soon |
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| [20:08:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: do you use avifile on your a64? |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | not that I recall |
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| [20:12:00] | xris: | Beirdo: so I've started tackling the mythplugins rpm now |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | oooh, fun |
| [20:13:00] | xris: | yeah, not. heh |
| [20:13:00] | FuzzyLogic: | the package liblame-dev cannot be found |
| [20:13:00] | Chutt: | xris, hey, uh, you did see that it was testing for xinit in both /usr/bin and /usr/X11R6/bin, right? |
| [20:13:00] | FuzzyLogic: | what package is the for debian |
| [20:14:00] | FuzzyLogic: | that* |
| [20:15:00] | Beirdo: | apt-cache search lame |
| [20:15:00] | The_Tick: | hmm |
| [20:15:00] | The_Tick: | maybe i'm going about this wrong |
| [20:15:00] | The_Tick: | an xbox is cheap |
| [20:15:00] | The_Tick: | i can buy a hard drive, mod it |
| [20:15:00] | The_Tick: | anyone heard of that being tried with mythtv? |
| [20:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Someone did it, I think. |
| [20:16:00] | The_Tick: | hmm, there is this mythtv-xbox |
| [20:16:00] | xris: | Chutt: not in my copy, it wasn't... |
| [20:16:00] | Krazylegz: | See, I was right. |
| [20:17:00] | xris: | compile problems when away when I added a symlink in /usr/bin |
| [20:17:00] | FuzzyLogic: | that lame isnt in my amd64 sarge release |
| [20:17:00] | Chutt: | xris, it is in svn tot |
| [20:17:00] | FuzzyLogic: | unless im lame, and cant see it :) |
| [20:17:00] | Chutt: | well, before daniel's change |
| [20:18:00] | xris: | heh |
| [20:18:00] | Chutt: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . ure?rev=6846 |
| [20:18:00] | Chutt: | line 1842 |
| [20:18:00] | xris: | oh, and so it's there. |
| [20:19:00] | xris: | wonder if one of the atrpms regex "fixes" is breaking it.... |
| [20:19:00] | Chutt: | might one of axel's patches have been removing it? |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:19:00] | xris: | well, patches are removed from the spec now. |
| [20:19:00] | Chutt: | doesn't matter anymore, daniel made it look for a library instead |
| [20:19:00] | xris: | but axel has a couple of perl regex replacements in the spec, too. |
| [20:19:00] | Chutt: | but it _was_ right in the code :p |
| [20:20:00] | The_Tick: | hmm, xboxmediacenter might be better if i get an xbox |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | have fun with that |
| [20:20:00] | xris: | yeah, looks like maybe it was axel's perl thing. |
| [20:20:00] | xris: | blech.. don't know what's required and what's not. |
| [20:20:00] | The_Tick: | Beirdo: ya, i'm looking into it |
| [20:22:00] | xris: | oh well, thanks for humoring me, then. |
| [20:22:00] | xris: | need jarod to get back so I can figure out what else in here isn't needed. |
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| [20:22:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [20:22:00] | Chutt: | got a url? |
| [20:22:00] | Chutt: | i'll check it out real quick |
| [20:23:00] | xris: | axel SERIOUSLY overthinks a lot of this stuff, and leaves in old fixes that aren't needed anymore. |
| [20:23:00] | xris: | http://forevermore.net/files/mythtv_misc/mythtv.spec |
| [20:24:00] | xris: | that's my *much* cleaner version (with help from jarod), but it still has some old axel stuff in it. |
| [20:25:00] | xris: | and my not being familiar with compilers in general and the qt .pro stuff in particular doesn't help at all, either. |
| [20:25:00] | Chutt: | i don't see anything right off that would cause it to get rid of that path |
| [20:26:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [20:26:00] | xris: | that part is gone now |
| [20:26:00] | Chutt: | pros are easy |
| [20:26:00] | xris: | well, axel adds a bunch of stuff to them in the rpm build process. |
| [20:27:00] | Chutt: | right |
| [20:27:00] | Chutt: | he shouldn't be, but.. =) |
| [20:27:00] | xris: | also has a lot of stuff to get around static lib paths |
| [20:27:00] | Chutt: | that's due to redhat being busted |
| [20:27:00] | The_Tick: | bah, xbmc is kinda ghetto |
| [20:27:00] | The_Tick: | back to plan a :D |
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| [20:29:00] | xris: | Chutt: stuff like this is required: find . -type f | xargs grep -l artsc/artsc.h | xargs perl -pi -e's,artsc/artsc.h,artsc.h,g' |
| [20:29:00] | xris: | well, I see it more as a matter of ./configure being broken. |
| [20:29:00] | xris: | autoconf could theoretically fix a lot of these issues. |
| [20:29:00] | Beirdo: | or FC could just not put it in the wrong place :) |
| [20:30:00] | Beirdo: | and why is he using perl instead of sed?! |
| [20:30:00] | xris: | beats me |
| [20:30:00] | Beirdo: | in sed mode, no less :) |
| [20:30:00] | Beirdo: | I'm sure he has a good reason |
| [20:30:00] | ** Beirdo chuckles ** | |
| [20:30:00] | Chutt: | yeah, but you don't want to use arts anyways |
| [20:31:00] | Chutt: | and it'd be easy to fix the test |
| [20:31:00] | xris: | yeah, I'm more interested in all of the "lib" fixes... |
| [20:31:00] | Chutt: | those are because of redhat brokenness :p |
| [20:31:00] | Chutt: | mixing 64 + 32 bit stuff is bad |
| [20:31:00] | xris: | heh |
| [20:34:00] | xris: | great, seems something in the xvmc tests is also broken. |
| [20:34:00] | xris: | not that I care personally, but it's annoying. |
| [20:34:00] | Chutt: | check with clean source, first =) |
| [20:35:00] | xris: | well, only thing that goes there is: perl -pi -e's,VENDOR_XVMC_LIBS="-lXvMCNVIDIA",VENDOR_XVMC_LIBS="-lXvMCNVID IA -lXv",' configure |
| [20:36:00] | xris: | though that should go within an %if clause... |
| [20:39:00] | xris: | I'm definitely not the right person to be doing this. heh. |
| [20:45:00] | xris: | need to get slepp's syntax highlighting into trac. heh. |
| [20:46:00] | FuzzyLogic: | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu unstable/mythtv Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dijkstra.csh.rit.edu_%7emdz_debian_dists_unstable_mythtv_bin ary-amd64_Packages) – stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| [20:47:00] | FuzzyLogic: | trying to get mythtv on amd64 debian |
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| [20:48:00] | MrSpiffy: | yo! |
| [20:49:00] | MrSpiffy: | question – I/m recording in mpeg4/mp3 – basically divx – I'd like to get rid of the commercials then use ffmpeg to convert the nuv file to divx avi |
| [20:49:00] | MrSpiffy: | is this possible? |
| [20:49:00] | MrSpiffy: | I've already edited the cut list |
| [20:49:00] | laga: | MrSpiffy: nuvexport |
| [20:49:00] | Chutt: | but avi's broken for such things |
| [20:49:00] | MrSpiffy: | yep |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | MrSpiffy: see if nuv2avi helps you after you transcode out the commercials |
| [20:49:00] | laga: | or beirdo's nuv2avi |
| [20:50:00] | laga: | dunno if it works with cutlists |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | but avi is fundamentally craptacular |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | it doesn't do any cutting |
| [20:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | that may be ok |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | I really REALLY need to find time to finish that beotch |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | silly woman taking all my time :) |
| [20:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | I'me running trancode – flag and transode on the recording |
| [20:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | I guess transcode flag isn;t needed though since I did the cutlist already |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | Beirdo: heh |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | I believe that if you transcode in myth itself, but with the same output bitrates, etc, it won't actually recode, just remove |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | remove the cutlist that is |
| [20:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | cool |
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| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | I don't do things that way, so I'm not sure |
| [20:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | just what I want – I'm recoring 720x480 |
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| [20:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | I have scripts that convert anything to divx avi but I havn't tried nuv |
| [20:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | should I use transcode or ffmpeg? |
| [20:52:00] | laga: | and what about mencodeR? |
| [20:52:00] | laga: | *g* |
| [20:53:00] | MrSpiffy: | too slow |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | well, nuvexport will use either transcode or ffmpeg |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | and nuv2avi is WAY faster... if the results are usable, it would be the preferred method |
| [20:53:00] | MrSpiffy: | I tried using nuvexport to divx but it just sat there at 0 frames |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | if they aren't usable, you only wasted like 5 minutes |
| [20:53:00] | ** MrSpiffy dl's nuv2avi ** | |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | you may need to tweak it just a touch to get it to compile |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | 0.0.2 has a stupid bug (thanks to RedHat) |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | I had <lame.h> instead of <lame/lame.h> in one spot |
| [20:55:00] | MrSpiffy: | hm |
| [20:55:00] | MrSpiffy: | nuvtools v 0.3 – no link |
| [20:55:00] | quink: | how is nuv2avi so much faster? |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | an easy fix, got fixed since, but the SVN version isn't quite right, and I haven't had time to fix it properly |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | 0.0.3 was BORKED |
| [20:55:00] | MrSpiffy: | ah |
| [20:55:00] | MrSpiffy: | bummer dude |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | so use 0.0.2, or try the SVN one |
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| [20:56:00] | cyberknet: | Beird, You are a LazyAss(tm) |
| [20:56:00] | Beirdo: | stupid half-assed checkin that I had forgotten about |
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| [20:56:00] | Beirdo: | cyberknet: don't make me kick your ass |
| [20:56:00] | ** laga hands beirdow his new boots ** | |
| [20:56:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: I'll throw the .NET runtime at you... |
| [20:56:00] | laga: | -w, dammit |
| [20:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | can I put nuv2avi in the bg ? |
| [20:56:00] | Beirdo: | woman takes priority over geeky programs |
| [20:56:00] | cyberknet: | and believe me, it's HUGE. |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | MrSpiffy: won't help you much, and it does spew to the console |
| [20:57:00] | cyberknet: | Ideally, the woman would want the geeky programs. |
| [20:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | ah |
| [20:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | thanks |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | cyberknet: later, I'm sure. she is a computer nut too :) |
| [20:57:00] | cyberknet: | Once you introduce her to TayVay? |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | but distance means more attention required. |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | and of course, there's that damned puzzle pirates. |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | what a time sink :) |
| [20:58:00] | cyberknet: | that damn thing indeed. |
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| [21:01:00] | ** MrSpiffy compiles like mad ** | |
| [21:02:00] | ** laga is being lazy ** | |
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| [21:04:00] | MrSpiffy: | uh oh |
| [21:04:00] | MrSpiffy: | Beirdo, compile failed |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | please tell me you aren't using AMD64 |
| [21:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | god no |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | OK, whew |
| [21:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | intel p4-ht |
| [21:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | smp kernel |
| [21:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | *sweet* |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | bitching about can't find lame.h? |
| [21:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | last is |
| [21:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | make[1]: *** [mp3lameaudio.o] Error 1 |
| [21:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/nuvtools-0.0.2/libavcodec' |
| [21:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | make: *** [libavcodec] Error 2 |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | you need lame libraries installed (development package) |
| [21:06:00] | ** Beirdo looks at the tan imbalance between his arms and curses the car ** | |
| [21:06:00] | MrSpiffy: | for libavcoded? |
| [21:06:00] | MrSpiffy: | ec |
| [21:07:00] | cyberknet: | I think he said l a m e |
| [21:07:00] | cyberknet: | but it might just b e me |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | you need the lame libaries installed... |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | libmp3lame |
| [21:07:00] | cyberknet: | llllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmme |
| [21:07:00] | cyberknet: | lame |
| [21:07:00] | MrSpiffy: | no prob |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | lame like cyberknet :) |
| [21:07:00] | MrSpiffy: | lame-devel coming up |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:07:00] | cyberknet: | there's a trend here. |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | you asked for that one |
| [21:07:00] | cyberknet: | la-amer |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | my right arm is noticably darker than my left |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [21:08:00] | MrSpiffy: | do you have a watch tan also? |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [21:08:00] | laga: | Beirdo: get a smaller car. a very, very small one |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | I don't wear a watch |
| [21:08:00] | MrSpiffy: | see? could be worse |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | laga: this is from being a passenger, I'm not British |
| [21:09:00] | laga: | oh, heh |
| [21:09:00] | kormoc: | get a convertable |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:09:00] | laga: | do you have a bra tan? |
| [21:09:00] | ** laga hides ** | |
| [21:09:00] | cyberknet: | hah! |
| [21:09:00] | MrSpiffy: | so worng |
| [21:09:00] | ** Beirdo kicks laga clear across the channel ** | |
| [21:09:00] | MrSpiffy: | I'd be worried about him picturing you wearing a bra dude |
| [21:09:00] | laga: | ouch |
| [21:09:00] | cyberknet: | hah. and if I remember correctly, he just kicked laga with laga's own new boots. |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:10:00] | laga: | MrSpiffy: i blame it on the stereotypes |
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| [21:10:00] | laga: | cyberknet: no, ig got them back. ;) |
| [21:10:00] | cyberknet: | laga: sure you did. keep telling yourself that =) |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | I think one of em's stuck in yer butt |
| [21:10:00] | laga: | cyberknet: i got them back. do you see that mark on my forehead? |
| [21:10:00] | kormoc: | the one that says 666? |
| [21:11:00] | laga: | heh |
| [21:11:00] | cyberknet: | No, the one that says "LOSER" because he fell asleep on his club admittance stamp. |
| [21:11:00] | cyberknet: | =) |
| [21:11:00] | cyberknet: | those stamps are funny =) |
| [21:14:00] | ** laga removes cyberknet's nuts slowly with a screwdriver ** | |
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| [21:15:00] | Beirdo: | PA! |
| [21:15:00] | Beirdo: | that goes right along with bah, meh.. |
| [21:15:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:15:00] | kormoc: | PA! My home state... |
| [21:16:00] | kormoc: | Coatsville, I know where that is |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | that's where Krazylegz's IP says he is |
| [21:16:00] | ** Beirdo is happy to live in .on.ca ** | |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:17:00] | xris: | laga: you're supposed to use a wrench on nuts, not a screwdriver |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | for now |
| [21:17:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [21:17:00] | xris: | or at least pliers. |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | ow |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | a hammer and a screwdriver if they are rusted |
| [21:17:00] | xris: | we *were* talking about the little things that go on the end of machine screws, right? |
| [21:17:00] | xris: | ;) |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:18:00] | cyberknet: | Yes. |
| [21:18:00] | xris: | Beirdo: no.. hammer drill with a socket attachment. |
| [21:18:00] | cyberknet: | I sure hope so. |
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| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | hacksaw |
| [21:18:00] | xris: | that, too |
| [21:18:00] | cyberknet: | spoon. |
| [21:18:00] | cyberknet: | hard to imagine something much more painful than a spoon. |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | or penetrating oil |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | now that just sounds wrong |
| [21:19:00] | cyberknet: | gasoline in the armpits comes close though. |
| [21:19:00] | xris: | I used a big titanium drill bit for extracting screws from my deck... stupid things broke off when I tried to remove them. |
| [21:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | ok – trying nuv2avi |
| [21:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | wish me luck |
| [21:19:00] | cyberknet: | MrSpiffy: You did get the _lame_ headers, right? |
| [21:19:00] | cyberknet: | =) |
| [21:19:00] | xris: | Beirdo: you really need to stop being so much in love and get back to making mpeg2cut work. heh. |
| [21:19:00] | Beirdo: | it will go fast, MrSpiffy. assuming it's an MPEG4 recording |
| [21:19:00] | cyberknet: | xris: I concur. |
| [21:19:00] | Beirdo: | if it's RT-JPEG, you're fubar for now |
| [21:19:00] | Beirdo: | xris: hehe, you silly boy |
| [21:20:00] | cyberknet: | mpeg2cut should be Beirdo's #1 priority. |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | I'll get to it... some time |
| [21:20:00] | ** Beirdo slaps cyberknet with the trout ** | |
| [21:20:00] | cyberknet: | that, and gputrans that we all donated cash to in order for him to get a Cg book. |
| [21:20:00] | ** cyberknet glares ** | |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | funny... the MARRIED guys are giving me hell for spending time with the woman. |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | HAH |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | only one person ever gave me money |
| [21:21:00] | cyberknet: | bah humbug! |
| [21:21:00] | cyberknet: | technicalities. |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:21:00] | cyberknet: | you're just trying to weasel your way out of it! |
| [21:21:00] | MrSpiffy: | mpeg4 |
| [21:21:00] | cyberknet: | that one person is gonna be pretty disappointed in you! |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | you two go home and be with your wives, you lucky bastards :) |
| [21:21:00] | MrSpiffy: | the nuv file is 1.6G after transcode |
| [21:21:00] | MrSpiffy: | 400M in crap cut |
| [21:21:00] | xris: | Beirdo: I can't, mine is probably still at work. |
| [21:22:00] | xris: | (though she's probably home by now) |
| [21:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | avi is 1.5G – trying it out |
| [21:22:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: Any married man knows that certain things we crave before marriage that are promised in exchange for marriage never actually materialize after marriage. |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | no comment |
| [21:22:00] | cyberknet: | We are, of course, talking about home-cooked dinners. |
| [21:22:00] | cyberknet: | yessir. |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:22:00] | xris: | cyberknet: I get those |
| [21:22:00] | quink: | wives make dinners? |
| [21:22:00] | xris: | but I married a cook |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | like I'd make her cook |
| [21:22:00] | quink: | where can i buy me one. |
| [21:22:00] | cyberknet: | xris: metaphore, buddy. |
| [21:22:00] | xris: | lol |
| [21:23:00] | cyberknet: | I sure could use a home cooked dinner right about now. |
| [21:23:00] | quink: | this microwave food just isn't cutting it. |
| [21:23:00] | cyberknet: | couldn't you, xris? |
| [21:23:00] | xris: | cyberknet: I sure hope you're not eating out. |
| [21:23:00] | cyberknet: | lmao |
| [21:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | hmm |
| [21:23:00] | cyberknet: | xris: Oh no, but I do confess to licking the plate clean. |
| [21:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | it changed the aspect ratio |
| [21:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | not 4:3 |
| [21:24:00] | xris: | hahaha |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | cyberknet: you know I *like* to cook, don't you? |
| [21:24:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: We *all* like to cook. |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | MrSpiffy: it won't change the aspect ratio. |
| [21:24:00] | cyberknet: | wait |
| [21:24:00] | cyberknet: | =) |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | it will be at 720x480, native |
| [21:24:00] | xris: | cyberknet: yes to that on both the literal and figurative meaning.... |
| [21:24:00] | cyberknet: | xris: Yeah. |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | which only LOOKS like it changed :) |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:24:00] | cyberknet: | xris: Mine brags on my cooking abilities. |
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| [21:25:00] | cyberknet: | and you can interpret that how you like, and it'll be true =) |
| [21:25:00] | quink: | damn it. get a new digital camera or a pentium-m matx system |
| [21:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | hm |
| [21:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | er |
| [21:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | um |
| [21:25:00] | cyberknet: | ah |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | quink: get both |
| [21:25:00] | quink: | Beirdo: college student. i can't hardly afford one :P |
| [21:25:00] | xris: | cyberknet: sorry, that got lost in the aussie translation.. all I heard was "beer beer beer" |
| [21:25:00] | cyberknet: | xris: hehehe |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | MrSpiffy: it takes the video as recorded and repackages, doesn't change the video at all |
| [21:26:00] | cyberknet: | xris: that was about the thick and thin of it, yeah. |
| [21:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | Beirdo, ah |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | AVI has no idea of aspect ratio, it's ALWAYS 1:1 |
| [21:26:00] | cyberknet: | Beer beer BeEr, bEER beER BEER! |
| [21:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | I'd have to record it at 720x580 then |
| [21:26:00] | xris: | Beirdo: it is? |
| [21:26:00] | quink: | booo for beer. yay for scotch |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | don't forget the shrimp on the barbie... |
| [21:26:00] | xris: | lunchtme |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | xris: yes, AVI is mentally challenged |
| [21:26:00] | xris: | lunchtime, even |
| [21:26:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: *sigh* one of the most mis-attributed quites of all time. |
| [21:26:00] | xris: | Beirdo: that's lame |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | MrSpiffy you can't |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | 640x480, you can |
| [21:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | 640x480? |
| [21:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | eh |
| [21:27:00] | Darth_X: | what is scotch made from? :) |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | cyberknet: I don't care :) |
| [21:27:00] | Tatster: | Hi – sorry if this is a noob question. If I have a backend server with a capture card in (like PVR-250) does my frontend server (different box) need a capture card in it? |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | Darth_X: water, malted barley... |
| [21:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | Tatster, no |
| [21:27:00] | cyberknet: | And how many americans argue with me when I tell them that it's not an australian phrase... all of them! Why can't those damn americans learn that australians know australian sayings, and that australins DONT HAVE FSCKING SHRIMP! |
| [21:27:00] | quink: | holy smokes. these s478 boards are expensive. |
| [21:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | frontend is just a frontend |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | cyberknet: shut it. |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | :0 |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:28:00] | cyberknet: | quink: go with an s939 board instead. |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | quit talking sense |
| [21:28:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: Aaah, got bite yourself =) |
| [21:28:00] | Tatster: | And if I wanted to add DVB capability I could just add a DVB card into backedn server? |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | and go put some more shrimp on the barbie... |
| [21:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | that's just another thing wrong with australia – no shrimp |
| [21:28:00] | quink: | i might as well get some epia to play with |
| [21:28:00] | cyberknet: | quink: Still recommending the s939. =) |
| [21:29:00] | quink: | cyberknet: nah |
| [21:29:00] | quink: | my biggest single concern is heat |
| [21:29:00] | cyberknet: | quink: are you kidding? s939 runs very very cool. |
| [21:29:00] | quink: | and size second |
| [21:29:00] | quink: | cyberknet: comparatively its hot |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | quink: then go with a AMD64 with a socket 939 :) |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | run coooool |
| [21:29:00] | quink: | Beirdo: i have a s754 a64 |
| [21:29:00] | Darth_X: | if australians don't have shrimp, do they have prawns instead? ;) |
| [21:29:00] | cyberknet: | quink: I'm kind of doubting that, but I haven't done the research to say definitively. |
| [21:29:00] | cyberknet: | Darth_X: yes indeed. |
| [21:29:00] | Darth_X: | hehe |
| [21:30:00] | quink: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Showimage.asp?M . . . ard+-+Retail look at the cooling fan that comes with that |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | cyberknet: same thing |
| [21:30:00] | quink: | i don't think s939 will run cooler |
| [21:30:00] | cyberknet: | Darth_X: It is therefore *impossible* that australians coined the term "Throw a shrimp on the barbie." |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | cyberknet: it was from Hollywood, silly |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | have a sheep :) |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I'm officially awake again |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | musta been lack of caffeine |
| [21:31:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: Hollywood != australia, although I will forgive you being confused since australia was the birthplace of the modern movie. |
| [21:31:00] | juski: | why do online shops insist on putting queries into the URL? ugh! |
| [21:31:00] | quink: | cyberknet: it was the birthplace of nothing except lame catch phrases |
| [21:31:00] | cyberknet: | quink: Quick, look! There goes your credibility! =) |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | quink: Australia >> USA in my mind :) |
| [21:31:00] | quink: | hahah |
| [21:32:00] | quink: | maybe its cause i live right near hollywood |
| [21:32:00] | cyberknet: | Maybe. |
| [21:32:00] | cyberknet: | I'm not sure what they make in Hollywood, but it sure isn't movies =) |
| [21:32:00] | quink: | and you are just jealous us americans having newegg.com and all |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | cyberknet: I know what it smells like though, we drove past a cattle farm a couple days ago |
| [21:32:00] | cyberknet: | quink: take a minute and look at my host, silly =) |
| [21:32:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: lmao |
| [21:33:00] | quink: | bah |
| [21:33:00] | quink: | hahah |
| [21:33:00] | cyberknet: | quink: I have just as much newegg as you =) |
| [21:33:00] | quink: | well its 10 miles from me so :P |
| [21:33:00] | quink: | i get free overnight shipping |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | newegg sucketh |
| [21:33:00] | cyberknet: | quink: I just happen to be from a better place =) |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | I buy locally anyways |
| [21:33:00] | quink: | Beirdo: so you pay more? |
| [21:33:00] | cyberknet: | Beirdo: only if you live in NotAmerica =) |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | and... no more toys |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | quink: actually, no |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | we pay about the same |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | and no delivery |
| [21:33:00] | quink: | oh. |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:34:00] | juski: | think of us poor people in the UK... we pay pound for dollar prices |
| [21:34:00] | quink: | heh |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | but no more toys for me right now |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | juski: that's gotta suck |
| [21:34:00] | juski: | |
| [21:34:00] | quink: | my wishlist is getting too long. laptop, 20" lcd, hd tuner, new mobo and cpu, more harddrives, new digicam |
| [21:34:00] | juski: | (about what.. $60?) |
| [21:35:00] | juski: | oops |
| [21:35:00] | juski: | wrong way lol |
| [21:35:00] | quink: | yeah |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | quink: lower expectations :) |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [21:35:00] | quink: | Beirdo: yeah i'll probably have to. |
| [21:35:00] | ** juski has worked too hard today ** | |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | you'll get there eventually |
| [21:35:00] | quink: | at least i have the lcd money saved up. just been waiting for the last 6 months for a good lcd. |
| [21:35:00] | quink: | nothing has been worth buying. |
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| [21:36:00] | Darth_X: | juski: that's true unfortunately, about the pound for dollar prices, its lame |
| [21:36:00] | juski: | and UK govt have got it sussed – if we buy from the US they hammer us with duty |
| [21:36:00] | quink: | though i might just forget a 20" and get a decent 19" and a digicam. two for one |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | of course |
| [21:36:00] | juski: | (the bastards) |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | bend over, here comes the taxman |
| [21:37:00] | Darth_X: | juski: buy from Canada instead ;) |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | Canada++ |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:38:00] | juski: | Darth_X: will try that someday |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | at least we have the same queen still :) |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | Long live the Queen... don't want a Queen Camilla! |
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| [21:39:00] | juski: | the royal WHO? |
| [21:39:00] | Darth_X: | hehe |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | the Royal Horse |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | ahem |
| [21:40:00] | juski: | lol |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | ah well, not much we can do about it |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | short of running over Charles with a bus |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | and that's not worth the effort |
| [21:43:00] | juski: | isn't it nice when mythtv just works? must be – not seen a problem in here & I've been logged in for ooo what half an hour? lol |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:43:00] | juski: | anyone see the post on the mailing list today (users)... mythshyte... |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [21:44:00] | zuralin: | 18.1 has been rock solid for me |
| [21:44:00] | juski: | some people! |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | other than a few hard-to-squish bugs, it's been pretty solid for me for almost 2 years now |
| [21:44:00] | juski: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/141187 |
| [21:45:00] | quink: | my only complaint is mythmusic sucks at managing large databases |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | hahahah |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | the dope's using VIA chipset |
| [21:46:00] | juski: | I've started to learn php n stuff now my myth just sits there doing its thang |
| [21:46:00] | quink: | and it'd be nice if there was some nice gui to configure your remote |
| [21:46:00] | quink: | just have a drop down list and assign options to buttons |
| [21:46:00] | juski: | I dunno why folks have any beef with VIA chipsets... every board I've ever had has been via – no problems to report |
| [21:46:00] | quink: | but thats just me being lazy |
| [21:47:00] | juski: | quink: it's still a bit beta for the GUI to get an overhaul like that |
| [21:47:00] | quink: | juski: anything newer then kt266a sucks from via. |
| [21:47:00] | quink: | i tried setting up a mythbox on a km400 nothing but problems |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | VIA had massive MASSIVE problems with DMA for a long time |
| [21:47:00] | zuralin: | i use km400 and have no problems whatsoever |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, km400 is after they fixed the issues, I believe |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | I'll stick with nForce, thanks |
| [21:48:00] | laga: | kt133 and kt133a had a lot of these issues, iirc |
| [21:48:00] | juski: | got a KT400 in my backend box & it's fine |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | and kt266, etc |
| [21:48:00] | laga: | my kt266a corrupted files.... |
| [21:48:00] | quink: | juski: i couldn't get the frontend working right ever with it. tvtuner and sound problems |
| [21:48:00] | juski: | maybe I've just been lucky then |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | I'll just stick with nVidia chipsets :) |
| [21:48:00] | quink: | yep |
| [21:49:00] | zuralin: | i have an nforce2 in this box |
| [21:49:00] | quink: | juski: i don't think the gui should be updated to program your remote, just a separate helper program |
| [21:49:00] | quink: | have a few common remotes, all various myth programs and button combos available and some easy to use interface |
| [21:49:00] | Beirdo: | I use nForce2 in my PVR, nForce3&4 in my newer boxes |
| [21:50:00] | juski: | well, as they say in the dev list... "you want it... submit it" lol |
| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | OK... |
| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | who let another Gavin into the mailing list?! |
| [21:50:00] | quink: | well i might. if i knew how to do a gui...all i know is crappy java gui stuff |
| [21:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | quink: use the existing code as your reference :) |
| [21:51:00] | quink: | GreyFoxx: to make a separate program? |
| [21:51:00] | juski: | we have java programmers where I work. funny thing is – their code runs really fast and doesn't hog the cpu – why can't it all be like that? |
| [21:51:00] | quink: | i was just thinking some little tool in X |
| [21:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ahhh, ok. I thought you meant a myth plugin/config window |
| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | heh. |
| [21:51:00] | quink: | pic your remote from a drop down list. then see a picture of the remote. have another list that gives you the program/subprogram, then on the right have a whoel list of commands you just drag and drop to associate with a button |
| [21:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | Either way surely there is enough open source out there to find something use as a reference :) |
| [21:52:00] | quink: | yeah. |
| [21:52:00] | quink: | well i might start looking into it |
| [21:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm sure lots of lirc users would love something like that, assuming it doesn't already exist |
| [21:53:00] | quink: | i'm gonna make the big bucks. I hear opensource is where its at. |
| [21:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | That I wouldn't know :) |
| [21:54:00] | quink: | sarcasm |
| [21:54:00] | zuralin: | i never could get lirc to work :\ |
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| [21:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | zuralin: It seems to be a pain for a lot of people |
| [21:55:00] | quink: | zuralin: try harder |
| [21:55:00] | zuralin: | quink, I don't have to.. found a way around it |
| [21:56:00] | quink: | ? |
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| [21:56:00] | stoffel: | with the pvr350 i just modprobed lirc_i2c and it all worked. |
| [21:56:00] | quink: | pvr250, same thing |
| [21:56:00] | zuralin: | quink, with ir-kbd-i2c |
| [21:56:00] | stoffel: | but don't ask why my home-built receiver using lirc_serial doesn't work anymore ;) |
| [21:56:00] | zuralin: | basically turned my remote into a "keyboard" |
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| [21:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | zuralin: I did that with a learning IR remote and an ir keyboard. taught the remote the key strokes. Now I use a rf /usb universal remote that the driver treats like a keyboard |
| [21:57:00] | _rkulagow_: | xris: here? |
| [21:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | no dealing with lirc at all |
| [21:57:00] | xris: | no |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | nice try, xris |
| [21:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | nifty, the internal media player has crashed on me twice since last night when using it with mythvideo |
| [21:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | maybe I should try to get a bt :) |
| [21:59:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:59:00] | _rkulagow_: | xris: English.php needs this: |
| [21:59:00] | _rkulagow_: | + 'Time Stretch Default' => '', |
| [22:00:00] | _rkulagow_: | mind if i do the commit? |
| [22:00:00] | juski: | I didn't just have to program LIRC – I had to re-program my universal remote when I got a new cable receiver... I mean download new codes to it that I made myself... jeez – it was either that or use 2 remotes |
| [22:00:00] | xris: | _rkulagow_: just run the build_languages script |
| [22:00:00] | xris: | and then commit. |
| [22:00:00] | zuralin: | I would like a UHF remote via usb or something.. the remote/ir sensor that comes with the pvr250 needs like like direct line of sight |
| [22:01:00] | _rkulagow_: | do you mean build_translation? |
| [22:01:00] | xris: | _rkulagow_: yeah. the .pl inside of the languages directory |
| [22:01:00] | _rkulagow_: | right, ok |
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| [22:02:00] | minimike: | hello |
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| [22:03:00] | minimike: | i wann compile mythtv but the configure script doesnt find dvb support |
| [22:03:00] | minimike: | dvb card is already running |
| [22:04:00] | juski: | you need to complile mythtv with DVB support, minimike |
| [22:04:00] | juski: | in gentoo, add "dvb" to your USE flags in /etc/make.conf – dunno about other distros tho |
| [22:04:00] | _rkulagow_: | xris: done. thanks. |
| [22:05:00] | xris: | sure |
| [22:05:00] | minimike: | i have debian sarge |
| [22:05:00] | minimike: | the backport from mythtv is down |
| [22:07:00] | ** juski doesn't know what a backport is ** | |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | or how to use ./configure :) |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | silly gentoo users :) |
| [22:07:00] | minimike: | ;) |
| [22:08:00] | juski: | yeah yeah... spoon fed ex-windows users, blah etc etc etc |
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| [22:09:00] | juski: | "how do you install mythtv?" er... emerge mythtv lol |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | the answer is "RTFM" |
| [22:09:00] | minimike: | apt-get install and it works .. |
| [22:10:00] | juski: | knowing enough to be able to run one linux distro is enough for me right now |
| [22:10:00] | minimike: | so the configure massgage tolds me no dvb support |
| [22:10:00] | juski: | so I'll just shut up then |
| [22:10:00] | minimike: | can i wath dvb the ? |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | you need to --enable-dvd, I think |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | ./configure --help |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:10:00] | minimike: | i tried it, same result |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | -dvb rather |
| [22:11:00] | ** Beirdo slaps himself ** | |
| [22:11:00] | Beirdo: | --enable-dvb |
| [22:14:00] | minimike: | do i need something installed to use a framebuffer ? |
| [22:15:00] | laga: | minimike: directFB, but X is the way to go |
| [22:15:00] | minimike: | it is a Savage with 32 MB |
| [22:16:00] | minimike: | a little bit slow with xorg :) |
| [22:16:00] | juski: | X, and if you want it nice & light, ratpoison or similar small window manager |
| [22:16:00] | minimike: | i have twm installed |
| [22:16:00] | minimike: | cd m |
| [22:17:00] | minimike: | oops :) |
| [22:17:00] | juski: | rm -rf * |
| [22:17:00] | juski: | (phew) |
| [22:17:00] | minimike: | no cd / |
| [22:17:00] | minimike: | then rm -rf * |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | juski: heh, some newbie might do it, |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | don't even joke about it :) |
| [22:17:00] | juski: | I know... |
| [22:18:00] | juski: | (been there before) |
| [22:18:00] | juski: | talk about having a slash in the wrong place |
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| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | of course, if someone's dumb enough to randomly follow instructions... insert WinXP install CD, reboot |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | then install snapstream CD... |
| [22:19:00] | juski: | then make 200 posts to tv-cards.com/messageboard asking why it doesn't work |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, sounds about right |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | either way, wouldn't be our problem |
| [22:20:00] | minimike: | hmm someone knows one good irc channel for DVB cards |
| [22:21:00] | laga: | minimike: you're german, right? are ya going to use astra with dvb-s? |
| [22:22:00] | minimike: | yes i am german and no i dont want use astra, i have dvb-t here in Cologne |
| [22:22:00] | laga: | umm, ok |
| [22:22:00] | doublehelix: | if anyone is bored, ive got a question that has me stumped.. i first tried installing mythtv a few days ago from packages, but had run into some problems that dont matter now, and now im trying to install from the source but i get make errors.. specifically linker errors |
| [22:22:00] | minimike: | i have some probs with an pinnacle mediacenter 300i card |
| [22:23:00] | doublehelix: | it seems to be mostly associated with firewire.. undefined references to various raw1394 things |
| [22:23:00] | laga: | doublehelix: install the related -dev packages or --disable-firewire |
| [22:23:00] | minimike: | at first i have installed Debian then XEN |
| [22:23:00] | minimike: | my avermedia 771 works proper with xen |
| [22:24:00] | doublehelix: | laga: went back with configure and disabled firewire, but i still get linker errors to libiec61883.. im on SuSE and Yast tells me that library is protected and installed |
| [22:24:00] | minimike: | but the oinnacle doesnt work |
| [22:24:00] | laga: | minimike: some people in #mythtv-de prolly know something about it. at least, they annoy me with their dvb stuff. :> |
| [22:24:00] | laga: | doublehelix: what about the development package? |
| [22:25:00] | doublehelix: | i might have missed one.. let me dig around in yast for a while.. i searched for every variant of 1394, firewire, etc., that i could think of and installed all devel packages |
| [22:25:00] | doublehelix: | laga: fwiw the specific error is as follows: |
| [22:26:00] | doublehelix: | laga: /usr/lib/libiec61883.so.0: undefined reference to `raw1394_bandwidth_modify' |
| [22:26:00] | doublehelix: | /usr/lib/libiec61883.so.0: undefined reference to `raw1394_channel_modify' (\n) collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| [22:27:00] | doublehelix: | ls /usr/lib | grep iec61(\n) libiec61883.so.0 |
| [22:27:00] | laga: | umm, dunno, sorry |
| [22:28:00] | laga: | james doohan is dead |
| [22:28:00] | DaSkreech: | How does XML TV work? |
| [22:28:00] | laga: | :'/ |
| [22:28:00] | laga: | DaSkreech: well for me |
| [22:29:00] | DaSkreech: | can I build my own Programme Listing? |
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| [22:30:00] | Equilibre: | Folks. |
| [22:30:00] | DaSkreech: | Or would the TV providers have to do theor own? |
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| [22:31:00] | laga: | DaSkreech: well. usually, a small program called 'grabber' browses certain websites which have programming and put it in the xmltv files |
| [22:31:00] | DaSkreech: | Hi |
| [22:31:00] | laga: | umm, hi |
| [22:31:00] | dev-_-: | so i woke up this morning, and all of a sudden, livetv only plays for 2 or 3 seconds, stops, then drops back to myth menu.. |
| [22:31:00] | Equilibre: | Weird. |
| [22:31:00] | dev-_-: | anyone happen to run into a smiilar problem before? heh... its been working for many weeks prior to this mroning. |
| [22:31:00] | DaSkreech: | I wanna try MythTV for the channels we have on the Island but not sure how the XMLTV listings would work |
| [22:32:00] | FITH: | Out of disk space? |
| [22:32:00] | dev-_-: | no, plenty of diskspace free |
| [22:32:00] | FITH: | Hmm, haven't seen that before, but that would have been my first guess :) |
| [22:32:00] | dev-_-: | i have mythfrontned being outputed to a logfile, can i paste a couple of entries from there? i see bad socket errors in there |
| [22:32:00] | laga: | DaSkreech: look for grabbers for your country |
| [22:32:00] | DaSkreech: | So I'd have to point it at a site |
| [22:33:00] | laga: | DaSkreech: preferably at the website of the xmltv project, 'it' being your browser |
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| [22:36:00] | Pery69: | hi |
| [22:36:00] | Pery69: | any body coujld help me to setup mythtv |
| [22:36:00] | Pery69: | ? |
| [22:36:00] | ** DaSkreech waves ** | |
| [22:36:00] | DaSkreech: | try KnoppMyth |
| [22:37:00] | dev-_-: | gentoo-wiki.com and search for mythtv is one of the better howtos i could find when i set it up |
| [22:37:00] | Pery69: | would that work on fedora4 |
| [22:38:00] | dev-_-: | some of it but its more gentoo specific |
| [22:38:00] | dev-_-: | sorry |
| [22:38:00] | Pery69: | I have everything installed but have problem starting the program and problems with mysql |
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| [22:39:00] | MrSpiffy: | hey all – doea anybody have an fc2 transcode rpm? |
| [22:39:00] | MrSpiffy: | the verion I want is gone from pbone |
| [22:39:00] | MrSpiffy: | and at |
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| [22:42:00] | Dsls: | hi |
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| [22:44:00] | DaSkreech: | laga: How would I get a listing for a country up? |
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| [22:46:00] | minimike: | DaSkreech do you know what for an kernel is in the last knoppmyth installed ? |
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| [23:06:00] | ** xris thanks GeckoFiend for the lxm login ** | |
| [23:06:00] | xris: | (and jams) |
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| [23:07:00] | Darth_X: | any mention that scotty died today? :( |
| [23:07:00] | cyberknet: | xris: what are you using the lxm login for? |
| [23:08:00] | cyberknet: | Darth_X: I hadn't heard it, no. |
| [23:08:00] | xris: | cyberknet: free themes? |
| [23:09:00] | xris: | actually, I want to get the movietime stuff into mythweb. |
| [23:09:00] | cyberknet: | xris: aah. |
| [23:09:00] | cyberknet: | xris: More incentive for tightwads like me to want to subscribe, I guess. |
| [23:09:00] | xris: | but mainly because they said they'd give accounts to teh devs. |
| [23:09:00] | cyberknet: | I should have submitted more patches =) |
| [23:10:00] | cyberknet: | two patches and a joke language definition probably don't qualify as "dev" =) |
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| [23:12:00] | xris: | heh |
| [23:12:00] | xris: | I'm hardly a dev these days... just "maintainer" lately while I work on my cooking project. |
| [23:13:00] | xris: | but some of that will get folded back into mythweb |
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| [23:14:00] | cyberknet: | As long as someone makes a MythRecipie plugin for the frontend, then yes, I imagine it will. |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | well, part of the problem is that my recipe stuff is not as easily standardized as the current people would like. |
| [23:15:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | since I don't see recipes in nearly as rigid of a format as they do. |
| [23:15:00] | Beirdo: | you non-conformist |
| [23:17:00] | xris: | yup |
| [23:17:00] | xris: | just out to make things better. |
| [23:17:00] | xris: | I'll standardize on an xml-type format.. and it'll be better. |
| [23:17:00] | xris: | because that's what I do. |
| [23:18:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [23:21:00] | Equilibre: | Guys is there a way to grab a frame from a currently playing or paused recording and save it as a static image of some type? |
| [23:23:00] | DaSkreech: | minimike: Sorry? |
| [23:24:00] | minimike: | some one can helps me with phpmyadmin ? i have installed mysql for mythtv |
| [23:25:00] | minimike: | DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml |
| [23:25:00] | minimike: | AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
| [23:25:00] | minimike: | AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .php |
| [23:25:00] | minimike: | is in the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
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| [23:26:00] | minimike: | but i can not visit the webfronted |
| [23:26:00] | pce_matty: | argh |
| [23:27:00] | pce_matty: | overslept :) |
| [23:29:00] | fatmatt: | pce-matty: its only 7.30 |
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| [23:31:00] | fatmatt: | minimike: I use phpmyadmin, I'll have a look at my apache config, see if there's anything. |
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| [23:38:00] | ebbemonke: | hello peaople |
| [23:38:00] | ebbemonke: | ok |
| [23:38:00] | ebbemonke: | im newbie in mythtv |
| [23:38:00] | ebbemonke: | how to setup mythtv with hotbird |
| [23:38:00] | Randall64: | What's a hotbird? |
| [23:39:00] | ebbemonke: | some kind of satelite |
| [23:39:00] | ebbemonke: | 13 degrease easr |
| [23:40:00] | ebbemonke: | DVB-S |
| [23:40:00] | ebbemonke: | Ive got problem with that |
| [23:41:00] | ebbemonke: | maybe some people from Poland |
| [23:42:00] | ebbemonke: | also anyidea that myth tv support softcsa?? |
| [23:42:00] | ebbemonke: | soft CI or something like softcam.key |
| [23:44:00] | Beirdo: | ebbemonke: read the FAQ |
| [23:45:00] | Beirdo: | quick answer: no, and it's not a welcome topic as it is illegal in many areas of the world, most significantly in the USA |
| [23:47:00] | xris: | minimike: errors? |
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| [23:53:00] | ** pce_matty is back with coffee ** | |
| [23:53:00] | pce_matty: | fatmatt: it's called continuous crunch – i've been at work for four days |
| [23:54:00] | pce_matty: | got myself a camp bed, so yah, sleeping in 'till 7:30 is being quite decadent |
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| [23:54:00] | quink: | pce_matty: why would you stay at work that long? |
| [23:56:00] | ebbemonke: | ok but anyone knows that myth supports dvb-s cards without mpeg2 onboard |
| [23:56:00] | ebbemonke: | example vdr supports that with vdr xine |
| [23:56:00] | rlippmann: | hi all. thought i had a question, but i think i found the answer :) |
| [23:57:00] | topping: | rlippmann: that's one of the bots that's running... it gives you the answer before you ask it |
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| [23:58:00] | pce_matty: | quink: there's work to be done :) |
| [23:58:00] | quink: | i hope you have a shower in the office. |
| [23:58:00] | quink: | otherwise stinky work sucks |
| [23:59:00] | fatmatt: | is there a bar in the office? |
| [23:59:00] | quink: | and wouldn't it be cheaper just to get another person ? |
| [23:59:00] | rlippmann: | yeah, saw that. found the answer in the mailing archives |
| [23:59:00] | ** pce_matty laughs ** | |
| [23:59:00] | pce_matty: | oh don't worry, i do shower daily :) |
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