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[00:12:00] | quink: | question for oyu guys. if i set, through hdparm, my drive to spindown after a reasonable amount of time and a recording starts and it has to wait for the drive to spin up, what happens? does it hold hte recording in ram until the drive is up or doe sit just loose frames? |
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[00:14:00] | wasabi_: | Hello. |
[00:14:00] | riddlebox: | after I build my module, how do I start using that module? |
[00:14:00] | wasabi_: | I am curious about these PC-HDTV cards. |
[00:14:00] | wasabi_: | And how they would actually be used. |
[00:14:00] | wasabi_: | In fact, I am curious about HDTV completely. |
[00:15:00] | wasabi_: | Are these cards just for broadcast. |
[00:15:00] | wasabi_: | Or would they work with cable hdtv? |
[00:16:00] | jonK: | wasabi, typically boadcast only |
[00:17:00] | jonK: | the cable hdtv signal is going to in all liklihood be encrypted |
[00:17:00] | jonK: | and you don't have a key to decrypt the signal without the cable box |
[00:18:00] | Chutt: | except for local hd channels over cable |
[00:19:00] | jonK: | did not know that chutt, but are you sure? |
[00:19:00] | Chutt: | err, yeah |
[00:19:00] | jonK: | i thought all the digital signals were encrypted |
[00:19:00] | Chutt: | no. |
[00:20:00] | jonK: | so i can get HD recordings for local channels by plugging in the cable, without the cable box? |
[00:21:00] | Chutt: | no, i was lying a couple minutes ago |
[00:21:00] | jonK: | why would you do that? |
[00:22:00] | xris: | Chutt: you see my msg? |
[00:22:00] | Chutt: | oh, wait, maybe i was lying when i said i was lying |
[00:22:00] | Chutt: | oh, yeah, see it now |
[00:22:00] | jonK: | this statement is false |
[00:23:00] | xris: | Yesterday, upon the stair, I met a man who wasn't there. He wasn't there again today. Gee, I hope he goes away. |
[00:23:00] | jonK: | there once was a man from nantucket... |
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[00:30:00] | Tall-guy: | Anyone using a windows PC to view/transfer videos from a mythbox (ie: opening them in Windows MEdia player?) |
[00:32:00] | jonK: | there once was a man from nantucket... |
[00:32:00] | jonK: | oops... |
[00:33:00] | jonK: | stupid up arrow :) |
[00:33:00] | Tall-guy: | :) |
[00:33:00] | Tall-guy: | anyhoo, seeing as I'm talking to myself..... |
[00:33:00] | Gumby: | Tall-guy: you'll need a codec to do that. Plus small enough files that they dont go over the samba file size limit (if you use samba) |
[00:34:00] | Tall-guy: | gumby: no, no codec needed...it works..... the nuv files are actually viewable in windows media player, as I have a pvr350.... |
[00:34:00] | Tall-guy: | the files are about 1.1 GB for a 30 minute show.... |
[00:34:00] | Tall-guy: | the nature of my question is..."why the heck are my ethernet xfer rates so damn low from my mythbox" :) |
[00:34:00] | riddlebox: | what the heck I go into ivtv-0.3.6z/drivers and did make, make install then modprobe -r ivtv then modprobe ivtv it still uses my old module |
[00:34:00] | Tall-guy: | s/low/slow |
[00:34:00] | Gumby: | hrm, you sure you dont have a codec installed? I record on my pcr 250 and my roomate can not view the nuv's in win media by default |
[00:35:00] | Gumby: | riddlebox: because your old ivtv modules still exist in your modulels directory |
[00:35:00] | Gumby: | riddlebox: you probably need to remove them and then do a depmod -a |
[00:35:00] | Tall-guy: | gumby: pvr350 has a hardware DECODER too.... |
[00:35:00] | Gumby: | remove/move |
[00:35:00] | riddlebox: | ohh I see |
[00:35:00] | Tall-guy: | gumby: so I think thats the diff |
[00:35:00] | Gumby: | adn dont forget to unload the module also |
[00:35:00] | Tall-guy: | I'm pretty sure I don't have a codec installed.... |
[00:36:00] | Gumby: | Tall-guy: what are the xfer rates? |
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[00:36:00] | Gumby: | anyone here use a via epia board with built in c3 cpu? |
[00:37:00] | riddlebox: | Gumby: you also have to take the ROM file from the cd and put it in the /lib/modules right? |
[00:37:00] | Tall-guy: | gumby: like 500k/sec which sounds like a lot, but it takes like 30 minutes to move a 1.1GB file |
[00:37:00] | rtsai: | xris: are you accepting patches for nuvexport? |
[00:37:00] | |rt|: | Tall-guy: how are you connecting to the myth box |
[00:37:00] | Gumby: | Tall-guy: wired or wireless? |
[00:37:00] | xris: | rtsai: always. |
[00:37:00] | xris: | well, receiving... heh. |
[00:38:00] | Tall-guy: | rt: I've tried thru a hub (ie: wired), I've tried Xover cable (no hub), I've tried router and wireless (myth wired, pc wireless) |
[00:38:00] | Tall-guy: | same diff... |
[00:38:00] | rtsai: | i think something in svn needs to be fixed. The "x-perl" files are "binary", so "svn diff" doesn't work |
[00:38:00] | Gumby: | riddlebox: that I am not sure of. But yes, you do need those files somewhere |
[00:38:00] | |rt|: | Tall-guy: no i meant what protocal (samba, ftp, nis) |
[00:38:00] | mchou: | ok. I'm very confused. Can any nvidia cards do 1080i over DVI? |
[00:38:00] | riddlebox: | Gumby:it still says it is using my old module |
[00:38:00] | xris: | rtsai: didn't I fix that already? |
[00:39:00] | Tall-guy: | rt: oh, sorry mate....most of the time, clicking on it in mythweb..... |
[00:39:00] | Gumby: | riddlebox: then you either didnt unload the module or you havnt removed the original one properly. unload is different than remove. you need to do both |
[00:39:00] | rtsai: | i did "svn up" (this is from svn at forevermore.net, not mythtv.org) |
[00:39:00] | |rt|: | Tall-guy: what speed and duplex are each computer negotiating with the network? |
[00:39:00] | Tall-guy: | 100 full |
[00:39:00] | Tall-guy: | rt: I've tried manually changing too, forcing to half, forcing to 10, etc etc |
[00:39:00] | |rt|: | no packet loss? |
[00:39:00] | Tall-guy: | rt: not sure on the packet loss.... |
[00:39:00] | xris: | rtsai: guess not. fiuxed now. |
[00:40:00] | riddlebox: | ok which modules do I need to remove then? and do I do it with modprobe -r name? |
[00:40:00] | |rt|: | sounds slow to me too |
[00:40:00] | |rt|: | i would try ftp or scp |
[00:40:00] | Gumby: | riddlebox: modprobe -r unloads the module. not removes it. You need to physically find the module and move it out of the kernel tree and then do a depmod -a |
[00:42:00] | Tall-guy: | rt: yeah, that's my next bet........hey, just a thought...in mythweb, is it http'ing that...or ftp'ing that to me? (never really looked) |
[00:42:00] | Gumby: | http |
[00:42:00] | |rt|: | dunno i normally use scp myself or samba |
[00:42:00] | Tall-guy: | thanx gumby |
[00:43:00] | Gumby: | if its a local network then setup samba/ftp/scp |
[00:43:00] | Tall-guy: | gumby: yup, local, secure, behind firewal...etc etc |
[00:44:00] | |rt|: | well if you have sshd running you should be able to use scp |
[00:44:00] | |rt|: | if you're on a windows machine then winscp is pretty nice |
[00:45:00] | Tall-guy: | rt: I'll have to look into that. |
[00:45:00] | Tall-guy: | thanx for the advice guys.....its pissin me off :) |
[00:45:00] | Tall-guy: | (my problem is pissin me off, not the advice) |
[00:46:00] | |rt|: | lol |
[00:46:00] | Tall-guy: | :) |
[00:46:00] | Tall-guy: | never know how people will take stuff |
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[00:48:00] | wasabi_: | To to effectively use mythtv with hdtv |
[00:48:00] | wasabi_: | is pretty much impossible. |
[00:48:00] | wasabi_: | Right? |
[00:48:00] | wasabi_: | You'd need to get two cable boxes to decrypt to signals to feed into myth, blah |
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[00:49:00] | jonK: | wasabi, there's always over the air |
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[00:49:00] | |rt|: | wasabi_: damn jonK is too fast |
[00:49:00] | wasabi_: | well, obviously you can't watch a whole lot of stuff with that |
[00:50:00] | wasabi_: | premium channels, etc. |
[00:50:00] | wasabi_: | porn! |
[00:50:00] | mchou: | how many total partitions (physical + logical) are "allowed" on an ide drive? |
[00:50:00] | |rt|: | wasabi_: you run into the same problem with digital cable (assuming you want to watch 2 channels outside the analog signal) |
[00:50:00] | wasabi_: | Hmm? |
[00:50:00] | wasabi_: | What same problem? That is *the* problem. heh. |
[00:50:00] | |rt|: | you need 2 decoder boxes |
[00:51:00] | wasabi_: | Do those do the channel changing on them? |
[00:51:00] | wasabi_: | Basically the idea is I want it to look right to the user. You can use myth to change channels, etc. |
[00:51:00] | wasabi_: | not have to have 4 remotes. |
[00:51:00] | jonK: | i think it's only 4 primary partitions, not sure about how many logical |
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[00:51:00] | |rt|: | well that's how myth works....it would control the multiple cable boxes through lirc |
[00:52:00] | Tommck: | dhofstra – are you aroudn? |
[00:52:00] | wasabi_: | it would control cable boxes? |
[00:52:00] | Tommck: | aroudn |
[00:52:00] | wasabi_: | How's that? |
[00:52:00] | jonK: | wasabi, either through an ir blaster or serial connection |
[00:52:00] | |rt|: | mchou: just use lvm and then you can make up to 256 (default) logical drives per volume group |
[00:52:00] | wasabi_: | jonK, So you'd have a mythbox pointing at the cable boxes or something? |
[00:52:00] | wasabi_: | haha |
[00:52:00] | |rt|: | logical volumes I should say |
[00:52:00] | wasabi_: | And use myth to do that |
[00:53:00] | Gumby: | |rt|: until one of your hard drive crashes :) |
[00:53:00] | |rt|: | gumby you have that problem with just partitions on a drive |
[00:53:00] | wasabi_: | So you're telling me, I would have an IR sender on the Mythbox which would change the channel on the cable boxes? |
[00:53:00] | wasabi_: | that's wacky |
[00:53:00] | jonK: | wasabi, ever use a tivo? |
[00:53:00] | wasabi_: | No. |
[00:53:00] | |rt|: | lvm is pretty good even with a failed drive in a volume group |
[00:53:00] | Gumby: | |rt|: I am talking multiple drive volumes |
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[00:53:00] | jonK: | yes, you have a small IR emitter |
[00:54:00] | |rt|: | Gumby: i run over 18tb of data in a volume group at work |
[00:54:00] | jonK: | you're remote singal gets picked up, and it sends signal out to the emmitter to change channel on cable box |
[00:54:00] | wasabi_: | haha that's crazy |
[00:54:00] | Gumby: | |rt|: with how many tb of backup? |
[00:54:00] | jonK: | works for my tivo just fine :) |
[00:54:00] | Tommck: | Who needs backups? ;) |
[00:54:00] | jonK: | or you have a serial connection to accomplish same result |
[00:54:00] | Gumby: | wasabi_: why is that funny exactly? Its pretty darn clever and usefull if you ask me |
[00:55:00] | jonK: | he said it's crazy |
[00:55:00] | jonK: | not funny |
[00:55:00] | Gumby: | jonK: have you not noticed the "haha" before all his sentances? |
[00:55:00] | Gumby: | and "whacky" |
[00:55:00] | Exstatica: | the way i do it is my backend and cablebox are actually behind the entertainment center, and from the serial port from backend is the ir transmiter that connects to the cablebox |
[00:56:00] | jonK: | i have to admit i missed "wacky" |
[00:56:00] | |rt|: | Gumby: it's all raid under the lvm |
[00:56:00] | |rt|: | but i have a large tape backup system |
[00:57:00] | Tommck: | I have the Myth box send a Morse code message to my lobotomized man-servant through electric shocks so he knows what channel to select |
[00:57:00] | Gumby: | |rt|: exactly. no backup = very large possible problems |
[00:57:00] | Exstatica: | that's a good idea |
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[00:57:00] | jonK: | interesting Tommck, what else have you trained your "man servant" to do |
[00:57:00] | Tommck: | the only problem is I have to put plastic on the Myth box so that the drool doesn't short anything out |
[00:57:00] | |rt|: | Gumby: well even if a pv fails i can start the volume group with out it |
[00:58:00] | |rt|: | only data loss is limited to the PV that failed |
[00:58:00] | Gumby: | not saying LVM is a bad thing. you just have to know what you are doing and if the data is important be sure to back up |
[00:58:00] | |rt|: | yeah |
[00:58:00] | Gumby: | if you dont know what you are doing a failed drive can destroy everything |
[00:59:00] | jonK: | anyone else having an "500 internal server error" problem with zap2it |
[00:59:00] | Exstatica: | maybe i should buy a decent tape backup :) |
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[00:59:00] | |rt|: | the risks isn't really any higher than a raid |
[00:59:00] | |rt|: | but all my pv's are raid 5 volumes |
[00:59:00] | Gumby: | |rt|: no, its not. But anyone runnig a raid with important data and not backing it up is an idiot |
[00:59:00] | Exstatica: | i need a 1tb tape backup |
[01:00:00] | |rt|: | Gumby: that is true....nothing replaces a backup |
[01:00:00] | Tommck: | Exstatica – and something to back up those tapes... they're notorious for not actually working :) |
[01:00:00] | kormoc: | or a offsite rsnapshot server? |
[01:00:00] | Gumby: | I dont backup, but then again.. none of my data is that important |
[01:00:00] | mchou: | |rt|: heh, can you boot off lvm directly? :) |
[01:00:00] | Exstatica: | i have about 215gb of movies, that's the only thing i'm worried about |
[01:00:00] | kormoc: | sure can, with a modified initd |
[01:00:00] | |rt|: | mchou: no....os drive is a seperate raid1 set |
[01:01:00] | Tommck: | mchou – you can... it's just not a good idea |
[01:01:00] | Gumby: | Exstatica: just get a 400GB hdd. cheaper than a 1tb tape backups |
[01:01:00] | Tommck: | it's a bitch to attempt to recover from it :) |
[01:01:00] | Gumby: | lol |
[01:01:00] | Exstatica: | yeah i'll probably do that but then i'll just want to add it to the lvm group |
[01:01:00] | Gumby: | yeah, it is pretty tempting |
[01:01:00] | Gumby: | lol |
[01:01:00] | |rt|: | yeah lvm is good for storage...and i use it to ease my data managment issues |
[01:01:00] | kormoc: | Esotericisms, do what I did, 840 gigs of drives, 2x320s and a 200. |
[01:02:00] | kormoc: | all at once |
[01:02:00] | kormoc: | then it's not that hard ot dedicate a backup drive |
[01:02:00] | |rt|: | i create a logical volume per project....and I can grow the volume as needed |
[01:02:00] | Exstatica: | i want to take out my dvd burner and put in another 150 at least, right now with lvm and 7 drives i'm up to 963gb |
[01:02:00] | mchou: | I dont get it. linux documentation says you can have up to 255 partitions on an ide disk....... |
[01:02:00] | Gumby: | hehe, I am way behind you all |
[01:02:00] | |rt|: | when the project is done the lv is dumped to tape (onsite and offsite) then the lv is removed |
[01:02:00] | mchou: | yet there are only /dev/hd?16...... |
[01:02:00] | Gumby: | I'm only at 432GB |
[01:03:00] | mchou: | 16 partitions aint gonna be enough for 250GB. |
[01:03:00] | Gumby: | I need to start grabbing more movies so I can start justifying more storage space |
[01:03:00] | mchou: | especially if I want to dual boot linux64 vs. linux32 |
[01:04:00] | rtsai: | mchou: why would you want to dual-boot linux32? |
[01:04:00] | Exstatica: | wow i just found a firewire 400gb drive... maybe i'll use that as backup |
[01:04:00] | mchou: | rtsai: cause I'm not sure everything works in linux64 :) |
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[01:05:00] | rtsai: | wouldn't chroot be simpler? |
[01:05:00] | kormoc: | mchou, ide only support upto 63 partitions, scsi only support 15. linux supports more, but the drive can't use them |
[01:05:00] | |rt|: | Exstatica: look into bacula...it will allow you to backup to file as well |
[01:05:00] | rtsai: | (I haven't had any problems with amd64 hoary, fwiw.) |
[01:05:00] | kormoc: | mchou, http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:vGxVYBGGw9 . . . nt=firefox-a |
[01:06:00] | rtsai: | can anyone help me with nuvexport to DVD? |
[01:06:00] | mchou: | rtsai: I'm not so sure chroot would be simpler. |
[01:06:00] | Exstatica: | anyone know of lacie is compatible with linux? |
[01:06:00] | rtsai: | mchou: yeah, you're right; you'd have to be constantly chroot'ing into the partition to do anything |
[01:06:00] | |rt|: | i don't particularly like the lacie drives..i've had alot of problems with them |
[01:06:00] | Tommck: | rtsai – what prob are you having with nuvexport? |
[01:07:00] | Exstatica: | i was thinking for backup |
[01:07:00] | |rt|: | i've had more luck with them if your firewire card is based off a via chipset |
[01:07:00] | Exstatica: | yeah mine is on the motherboard |
[01:07:00] | rtsai: | just wondering how long it takes. It's been sitting at "Starting ffmpeg" "processed 0 of 2424765 frames" for about 5 minutes |
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[01:07:00] | |rt|: | and avoid the larger lacies (multiple disk) they have a habit of loosing their raid set |
[01:07:00] | Exstatica: | rtsai, did you turn on denoise? |
[01:07:00] | mchou: | lol, via firewire is the shits/ |
[01:07:00] | rtsai: | I know mythtranscode would have made progress by now. |
[01:07:00] | rtsai: | Exstatica: I dunno. This is my first time using nuvexport. |
[01:07:00] | mchou: | dont ever get a via firewire if you can help it. |
[01:07:00] | Exstatica: | yeah then it's stuck |
[01:07:00] | rtsai: | Exstatica: actually, yes denoise was enabled. |
[01:08:00] | rtsai: | i'll try turning it off, then? |
[01:08:00] | mchou: | ti, agere, those are reliable. |
[01:08:00] | Tommck: | rtsai – I have a P4 2.4 GHz for a backend... it takes 1 1/2 hours to export a 1 hr program with all the defaults |
[01:08:00] | Exstatica: | mine failed with pipe error when i had it and it just sat there |
[01:08:00] | Exstatica: | then i turned it off and it went right on to frames |
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[01:08:00] | rtsai: | hmm. denoise=on *is* the default |
[01:08:00] | Exstatica: | yeah you just have to choose no |
[01:09:00] | |rt|: | i would stick with the western digital or maxtor external drives...i haven't had any weird issues with those |
[01:09:00] | rtsai: | hmm. and Ctrl-C nuvexport doesn't clean up the /tmp/fifodir gunk |
[01:09:00] | Exstatica: | nope |
[01:09:00] | |rt|: | the new western digital ones are pretty nice I've gotten nearly 30mb/sec transfer rates with them too |
[01:09:00] | rtsai: | Tommck: otherwise all the nuvexport default values look good (exporting high-def to DVD)? |
[01:10:00] | Tommck: | rtsai – no.. this is a standard def show.. haven't tried HD yet |
[01:10:00] | rtsai: | Exstatica: cool. Turning off denoise helped, now I see progress. |
[01:10:00] | Exstatica: | :) |
[01:10:00] | rtsai: | Tommck: I meant, the defaults provide a reasonable viewing experience? |
[01:10:00] | Exstatica: | it has to do with yudenoise that's messed up |
[01:10:00] | Tommck: | rtsai – yeah... looked decent to me |
[01:10:00] | Exstatica: | i think there is a patch floating around |
[01:11:00] | rtsai: | Tommck, Exstatica : thanks. |
[01:11:00] | Tommck: | np |
[01:11:00] | Exstatica: | no problem |
[01:13:00] | Exstatica: | i locked up my backend encoding a show |
[01:14:00] | Exstatica: | or the load is so high i can't ssh |
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[01:18:00] | rtsai: | Exstatica: ha. I don't expect to have that problem (AMD64 3500+) :) |
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[01:19:00] | wasabi_: | myth tv question. |
[01:19:00] | wasabi_: | s |
[01:20:00] | wasabi_: | I have this guys house, he has 4 TVs. Each TV has a VCR and a DVD player. One TV has like, 3 DVD players. Outside on the patio he has a TV. |
[01:21:00] | wasabi_: | The goal is to have myhtv displayed on every TV. |
[01:21:00] | wasabi_: | And each TV be able to select from a different video source. |
[01:21:00] | mchou: | wasabi_: his house cant beat my neighbor. |
[01:21:00] | wasabi_: | And one big ass server |
[01:21:00] | mchou: | my neighbor has a tv that's over 10 ft. |
[01:21:00] | wasabi_: | big ass server = backend #1 |
[01:21:00] | mchou: | I'm not kidding. |
[01:21:00] | wasabi_: | Can the client connect to multiple backends? |
[01:21:00] | mchou: | not a projection TV either. |
[01:22:00] | wasabi_: | Like, can all these clients, 4 of them, connect to each other as backends? |
[01:22:00] | mchou: | huh?? |
[01:22:00] | wasabi_: | He wants this to be seamless. |
[01:22:00] | mchou: | each client coneects to only one backend. |
[01:22:00] | mchou: | that you designate. |
[01:23:00] | wasabi_: | He wants to be able to stick a DVD in TV#1, and watch it, in front of him. And then he wants to be able to go to another TV and watch thesame DVD |
[01:23:00] | mchou: | it looks up the (Master) backend from the DB. |
[01:23:00] | wasabi_: | You see what I'm trying to do though? |
[01:23:00] | wasabi_: | Is it possible? |
[01:23:00] | mchou: | the client, that is. |
[01:23:00] | mchou: | not really. |
[01:23:00] | wasabi_: | I want all these input devices to be available everythwere in the house. |
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[01:24:00] | mchou: | wasabi_: itr's called slave backend. |
[01:24:00] | wasabi_: | ? |
[01:24:00] | mchou: | it's* |
[01:24:00] | wasabi_: | what's that mean? |
[01:24:00] | mchou: | read the docs |
[01:24:00] | riddlebox: | I must be a total idiot no matter what I do I cannot get the new ivtv module to load |
[01:25:00] | mchou: | you can have mutiple backends, but only one master BE. |
[01:25:00] | mchou: | multiple* |
[01:26:00] | wasabi_: | Okay I see. |
[01:26:00] | mchou: | and as long as you have one NFS which all clients on the network can accedss I dont see any issues. |
[01:26:00] | wasabi_: | So, each frontend would be a slave backend also |
[01:27:00] | mchou: | any frontend that has a "cature device" will be a BE. |
[01:27:00] | mchou: | also* |
[01:27:00] | mchou: | capture* |
[01:28:00] | wasabi_: | I'd like to find a screenshot on how to select the input. |
[01:28:00] | wasabi_: | Curious how that works |
[01:28:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
[01:28:00] | wasabi_: | Like, in the interface, you'd have an interface to choose what input device, right? |
[01:29:00] | wasabi_: | Even if that's halfway across the house, etc. |
[01:29:00] | mchou: | wasabi_: dude, you using myth now? |
[01:29:00] | wasabi_: | no |
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[01:29:00] | wasabi_: | no systems |
[01:29:00] | wasabi_: | trying to figure out what I should be buying |
[01:29:00] | mchou: | lol. |
[01:29:00] | mchou: | you dont select inputs in myth :) |
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[01:29:00] | wasabi_: | So how do you choose what to watch? |
[01:29:00] | wasabi_: | For instance, 3 DVD players. ;) |
[01:30:00] | mchou: | inputs are automagically determined. |
[01:30:00] | mchou: | huh?? |
[01:30:00] | wasabi_: | This guy has 2 DVD players and a VCR at his main TV |
[01:30:00] | mchou: | wasabi_: you are barking up the wrong tree. |
[01:30:00] | wasabi_: | He wants to be able to record from any of them, and watch any of them in any room. |
[01:30:00] | mchou: | myth is a DVR, not some "port replicator" |
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[01:31:00] | mchou: | so what's the point of recording from a DVD player? |
[01:31:00] | wasabi_: | I thought it was some mythical tool to make your life easier? =( |
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[01:31:00] | mchou: | your questions make now sense at all. |
[01:32:00] | mchou: | who records from a DVD player? |
[01:32:00] | wasabi_: | Somebody who has a special DVD player |
[01:32:00] | mchou: | you might rip from a dvd player but you sure dont watch a dvd over the network :) |
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[01:33:00] | wasabi_: | For example, my friend wants to, on superbowl night, play the same channel on all TVs in his house. |
[01:33:00] | mchou: | you might watch the rip of the dvd player over the network..... |
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[01:33:00] | wasabi_: | I suspose that requires 4 tuners to watch the same thing 4 times? |
[01:33:00] | mchou: | no. |
[01:34:00] | mchou: | that one tuner, one BE, 4 clients. |
[01:34:00] | mchou: | assuming it's the same game on tghe same channel. |
[01:34:00] | mchou: | the* |
[01:34:00] | wasabi_: | But is that not replicating? |
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[01:35:00] | mchou: | no, that's watching the live-tv buffer |
[01:35:00] | mchou: | which isnt really "live" |
[01:35:00] | mchou: | delayed by at least 2–3 seconds |
[01:35:00] | wasabi_: | Okay... |
[01:35:00] | wasabi_: | That's fine. |
[01:36:00] | wasabi_: | So, I could record that. |
[01:36:00] | Discipulus: | You can pause the "live tv" if you're using MythTV right? |
[01:36:00] | wasabi_: | Actually. |
[01:36:00] | wasabi_: | You know, if you can do that, you can do what I just asked. |
[01:36:00] | wasabi_: | Play a VCR on all systems. |
[01:36:00] | wasabi_: | As the VCR is just another live tv buffer |
[01:36:00] | mchou: | no you cant. Not with DVDs |
[01:36:00] | wasabi_: | External DVD player. |
[01:37:00] | narf00: | quick question, at one point I had a pvr-150 working perfectly but i managed to break the sound, anyone good at troubleshooting? |
[01:37:00] | mchou: | I dont care if it's external or internal. |
[01:37:00] | mchou: | wasabi_: RTFM, man. |
[01:38:00] | narf00: | was that referred to me lol? |
[01:38:00] | mchou: | narf00: huh?? |
[01:38:00] | narf00: | o, nm |
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[01:50:00] | mchou: | damn, this sucks. Old power supply aint beefy enough. |
[01:51:00] | Gumby: | anyone here use use a via epia motherboard? |
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[02:13:00] | dagar__: | where is the xml file for the menu layout? |
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[02:23:00] | Darby: | Hey all, I just got my IRBlaster. Can you point me to a good howto, Gentoo specific if possible? |
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[02:36:00] | Qwell: | I don't suppose mythtv works with radio with something like a pvr-150mce? |
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[02:56:00] | Igg-man: | does the pvr-500 need any special setup? |
[02:56:00] | Igg-man: | The ivtv drivers seem to see it as a 150 |
[02:56:00] | Igg-man: | I can't watch anything |
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[03:11:00] | hadees: | what kind of partion type do you think is best for like a 5G live tv buffer |
[03:11:00] | hadees: | and what about like 550G of Recordings |
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[03:22:00] | Darby: | I'm using JFS, and it works pretty well. I think that and XFS are usually recommended |
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[03:27:00] | wasabi: | Are there any recommended sound out devices? Are Audigy's fine? |
[03:28:00] | rtsai: | hadees: i have all my myth stuff on one big partition |
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[03:31:00] | abarbaccia: | wasabi, i think audigy works well enough |
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[03:36:00] | abarbaccia: | it is DEAD in here tonight |
[03:36:00] | Discipulus: | hi |
[03:37:00] | Discipulus: | abarbaccia, what I was trying to ask the other night is if I put the mythtv box between my Sat reciever and the TV then would I be able to watch and record at the same time (2 different channels) |
[03:40:00] | wasabi: | What about a sound card that has digital audio out that is compatible with most receivers? |
[03:41:00] | wasabi: | Is the audigy going to work with that? |
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[03:42:00] | phoner: | is there anything special to get nuv files to play in windows media player? |
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[03:42:00] | phoner: | they are supposidly enocoded mpeg2 |
[03:42:00] | abarbaccia: | Discipulus, you need to have 2 tuners to watch one channel and record another |
[03:42:00] | abarbaccia: | eh |
[03:43:00] | abarbaccia: | Discipulus, i dont think what i said is correct – because you would need two sat. boxes as well – i think... |
[03:43:00] | wasabi: | two sat recivers too. ;) |
[03:43:00] | Discipulus: | abarbaccia, in that case wouldn't I need 2 capture cards and 2 recievers? |
[03:43:00] | Discipulus: | yep |
[03:43:00] | Discipulus: | damn |
[03:43:00] | abarbaccia: | too bad |
[03:43:00] | abarbaccia: | but one capture card is usually enough |
[03:44:00] | xoritor: | could someone help an idiot setup an ir remote? |
[03:44:00] | ** xoritor <- idiot ** | |
[03:44:00] | abarbaccia: | when you watch tv its usually stuff you recorded already |
[03:44:00] | abarbaccia: | xoritor, what distro |
[03:44:00] | xoritor: | FC4 |
[03:44:00] | abarbaccia: | not my forte |
[03:44:00] | abarbaccia: | sorry |
[03:44:00] | xoritor: | i have myth working fine... just FC4 has "issues" |
[03:44:00] | phoner: | what kinda remote |
[03:44:00] | xoritor: | im asking the FC people |
[03:44:00] | abarbaccia: | xoritor, did you go by jarod's guide |
[03:44:00] | xoritor: | its the standard happauge (sp) |
[03:44:00] | xoritor: | abarbaccia, yep... mostly |
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[03:45:00] | xoritor: | 99% |
[03:45:00] | xoritor: | i even grabbed the lircrc files and what not |
[03:45:00] | xoritor: | and put them in the correct places |
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[03:45:00] | phoner: | i got it working with lirc_i2c |
[03:46:00] | abarbaccia: | xoritor, can you load the modules? |
[03:46:00] | phoner: | what happends when you start lircd |
[03:46:00] | xoritor: | nope... no modules for this kernel |
[03:46:00] | mmactyre: | Hi all, I have a questions concerning capturing digital TV via firewire. I can get HD content, but am not sure about the "straight" digital channels. The one I tried, doesn't seem to work. Can I capture digital TV on those channels like I do with the HD channels? |
[03:46:00] | xoritor: | lircd starts accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
[03:46:00] | xoritor: | could not get file information for /dev/lirc |
[03:47:00] | xoritor: | but i cant figure out where else i need to put dev file entries |
[03:47:00] | xoritor: | ie... /etc/udev/rules.d/lirc.rules is the only place i have found |
[03:47:00] | xoritor: | KERNEL="lirc[0–9]*", NAME="lirc%n" |
[03:47:00] | xoritor: | KERNEL="lirc0", SYMLINK="lirc" |
[03:47:00] | xoritor: | that should do it |
[03:48:00] | abarbaccia: | xoritor, what do you mean no modules? |
[03:48:00] | xoritor: | modprobe -l | grep lirc | wc -l |
[03:48:00] | xoritor: | 0 |
[03:48:00] | xoritor: | no modules for lirc |
[03:48:00] | xoritor: | and none for lirc_i2c |
[03:49:00] | xoritor: | i guess thats the whole issue |
[03:49:00] | xoritor: | no modules |
[03:50:00] | xoritor: | anyone know where i can get JUST the module? |
[03:52:00] | mmactyre: | Hi all, I have a question concerning capturing digital TV via firewire. I can capture HD content, but am not sure about the "straight" digital channels. The one I tried, doesn't seem to work. Anyone had any experience capturing digital TV on those channels like I do with the HD channels? |
[03:54:00] | mmactyre: | Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? |
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[03:55:00] | xoritor: | mmactyre, i didnt know you could capture hd content |
[03:55:00] | xoritor: | hmm |
[03:55:00] | xoritor: | i have not tried to capture anything from firewire... |
[03:56:00] | mmactyre: | Yeah, pretty cool stuff. I used the guide... let me check the URL. |
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[03:56:00] | xoritor: | stupid yum |
[03:57:00] | xoritor: | so my whole issue of not having a module for lirc_i2c was because yum did not install the "updated kernel modules" |
[03:57:00] | mmactyre: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php — expand everything and you'll see it under "Get and install capture card driver(s)" |
[03:58:00] | xoritor: | hmm |
[03:59:00] | xoritor: | you cant watch it realtime though right? |
[03:59:00] | mmactyre: | I have. |
[03:59:00] | xoritor: | cool! |
[03:59:00] | xoritor: | i have a new box... maybe it will work |
[03:59:00] | mmactyre: | Hmm... at least I think I have... I hardly every watch tv. |
[04:00:00] | xoritor: | hahaha |
[04:00:00] | mmactyre: | Er... live TV that is. |
[04:00:00] | mmactyre: | So, how often can I ask my question before I start annoying ppl? :-) |
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[04:03:00] | mmactyre: | Hi all, I have a question concerning capturing digital TV via firewire. I can capture HD content, but am not sure about the "straight" digital channels. The one I tried, doesn't seem to work. Anyone had any experience capturing digital TV on those channels like I do with the HD channels? |
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[04:15:00] | phoner: | oh this does suck |
[04:15:00] | phoner: | nuv doesn't play in windows media player |
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[04:16:00] | phoner: | why do people keep saying in the archives "just rename it mpg" |
[04:16:00] | v0L7r[-]n: | Whats a good cheat tv tuner card with support for bttv for linux ? |
[04:16:00] | v0L7r[-]n: | cheap |
[04:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | phoner: It depends on the kind of capture card |
[04:17:00] | phoner: | oh wait, winamp seems to be playing them |
[04:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you have apvr 150/250/350/500 then it IS an meg |
[04:17:00] | v0L7r[-]n: | Hows it work exactly |
[04:17:00] | v0L7r[-]n: | do I need cable |
[04:18:00] | LazyBones: | Does anyone know if any work has been put into myth to support usb tuners? |
[04:18:00] | phoner: | I'm seeing some people say it's not a true mpg |
[04:18:00] | v0L7r[-]n: | I'm interested in videotext |
[04:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | phoner: I say again "It depends on the kind of card" |
[04:19:00] | phoner: | I mean a x50 with mpeg encoder |
[04:19:00] | mmactyre: | Hi all, I have a question concerning capturing digital TV via firewire. I can capture HD content, but am not sure about the "straight" digital channels. The one I tried, doesn't seem to work. Anyone had any experience capturing digital TV on those channels like I do with the HD channels? |
[04:20:00] | abarbaccia: | mmactyre, if nobody answers the first 10 times, chances are ppl don't know |
[04:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's a valid mpeg from everysinlg ething I've ever used to play or edit them |
[04:20:00] | mmactyre: | abarbaccia: Heck, there are new ppl to ask. :-) |
[04:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | LazyBones: I know people have used the plextor ones with myth, not idea what if anything had to be done to myth to get them to work or if it was all done by the drivers for the tuner |
[04:21:00] | LazyBones: | GreyFoxx: The reason I ask is to see if anyone has sucessfully made an xbox into a complete PVR (backend and frontend) ... any knowledge of this? |
[04:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | No idea |
[04:22:00] | ** GreyFoxx fires up vmware ** | |
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[04:23:00] | LazyBones: | XBox + Myth = Frontend & Backend ... anyone have any knowledge of it happening? |
[04:24:00] | mmactyre: | LazyBones: I would think the only limitation would be the video capture and hard drive space. |
[04:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | You might want to check the mailling list archives. I tend to skip most of the posts in the -users list unless the subject directly pertains to something that interests me :) |
[04:25:00] | newbie-ma: | Hi, all. I just picked up a "StudioTV Terminator" on a clearance table, brought it home, and am now trying to figure out whether I can get it to operate under Linux. I found a posting from a couple of weeks back from someone in a |
[04:25:00] | newbie-ma: | but don't see any replies yet. :-( |
[04:25:00] | mmactyre: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ |
[04:25:00] | newbie-ma: | The query is at http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1411&start=0 |
[04:26:00] | newbie-ma: | Hi, mmactyre – was that reply to GreyFoxx or myself? |
[04:26:00] | LazyBones: | Grey ... the mailing list doesn't have too much info on it being a backend besides that the processor may not be fast enough |
[04:26:00] | mmactyre: | newbie-ma: LazyBones. :-) |
[04:27:00] | newbie-ma: | OK. Gotcha. Is there a list of supported cards anywhere? I didn't find anything obvious in the docs. |
[04:27:00] | LazyBones: | mmactyre: Video capture can be done through a tuner to USB connection and the hard drive space can be increased once modded |
[04:27:00] | mmactyre: | newbie-ma: I think so. Let me look. |
[04:27:00] | diamon: | USB tuners are fairly unlikely to have drivers since most manufacturers are loathe to distribute their specs for some reason. |
[04:27:00] | newbie-ma: | Thanks, mmactyre! |
[04:28:00] | diamon: | Might be worth a bit of googling, but I wouldn't bet on many if any being supported. |
[04:28:00] | mmactyre: | newbie-ma: http://pvrhw.goldfish.org/tiki-pvrhwdb.php |
[04:29:00] | newbie-ma: | Thanks again, mmactyre. I'll take a look. |
[04:29:00] | LazyBones: | diamon: being supported by who? myth? |
[04:30:00] | LazyBones: | im looking at something like this: http://www.ati.com/products/tvwonderusb20/specs.html |
[04:30:00] | LazyBones: | but i dont even know if the xbox could handle the backend anyway (its a PIII 7333) |
[04:30:00] | LazyBones: | 733 |
[04:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | the plextor is the only one I've seem specifically mentioned anywhere |
[04:31:00] | mmactyre: | Yeah, the Plextor can go straight to Divx, etc. |
[04:32:00] | newbie-ma: | mmactyre & all, I found an entry for "terminator" (http://pvrhw.goldfish.org/tiki-pvrhwdb.php?fi . . . ified_desc), |
[04:32:00] | newbie-ma: | but it's not obvious that it applies to a vidcap card. |
[04:33:00] | newbie-ma: | "MythTV" is shown in the software column, |
[04:34:00] | mmactyre: | Yeah. :-( |
[04:34:00] | newbie-ma: | but most of the rest of the stuff seems to apply to a computer. |
[04:35:00] | wasabi: | Hmm. I guess the best idea for a mythtv set top box is to mount / ro? |
[04:35:00] | wasabi: | and then make sure the recording partition is journaled |
[04:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | wasabi: I guess that would dpend on just what your / encompasses :) |
[04:37:00] | newbie-ma: | Sorry to be such a burden, but I'm wondering if anyone can take a look at http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1411&start=0 |
[04:37:00] | newbie-ma: | for the posting I mentioned earlier. |
[04:38:00] | newbie-ma: | I think that getting an answer to the questions asked there (a few weeks ago) would be helpful to me. |
[04:38:00] | newbie-ma: | I haven't installed the card yet, but assume I would get similar results to what's shown in the posting. |
[04:39:00] | wasabi: | GreyFoxx, I just want to make sure somebody can unplug it without totally screwing it up |
[04:39:00] | wasabi: | As that tends to happen with set top boxes |
[04:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Educate the user that it is not a solid state system :) |
[04:40:00] | wasabi: | Pssh. Yeah right. |
[04:40:00] | wasabi: | I want to sell these things |
[04:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | But for the most part, as long as /tmp, /var, and /home maybe are writable it should be ok |
[04:40:00] | wasabi: | yeah |
[04:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | and /usr should be pretty safe to keep RO |
[04:40:00] | wasabi: | I think /tmp can be a ram disk |
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[04:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | but you would find out soon enough :) |
[04:41:00] | wasabi: | hehe |
[04:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | If I was doing it and worried about that I would boot from aCF card, run /, /usr as ram drives, and use a jounrnaled fs for recordings+mysql data |
[04:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've done similar on little linux based routers |
[04:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Makes upgrading a snap too, Just update the CF card with a new image, or pop in anew CF card with the new version on it |
[04:47:00] | newbie-ma: | |
[04:47:00] | newbie-ma: | #mythtv-users :newbie-ma v0L7r[-]n LazyBones travolta knewt_ stoffel_ virsys mmactyre xoritor phoner Discipulus kormoc wasabi abarbaccia Igg-man Qwell Darby chickeneater Urriellu enc |
[04:48:00] | newbie-ma: | oops |
[04:48:00] | Beirdo: | wha? |
[04:48:00] | ** kormoc raises a eyebrow ** | |
[04:48:00] | wasabi: | GreyFoxx, how hard is it to set up a bootable CF? |
[04:48:00] | newbie-ma: | Sorry. I'm having some problems here. :-| |
[04:48:00] | Beirdo: | no kidding |
[04:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not very. After you have prepared your distro/software that is |
[04:48:00] | newbie-ma: | I seem to have lost my connection to the server – something about a high system load. |
[04:48:00] | wasabi: | Do you need a certain mobo to boot from it? |
[04:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | You just need to pick and choose what you put on it, and any preconfig |
[04:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
[04:49:00] | newbie-ma: | Wuz trying to cut-and-paste a "/join" command. Guess I got the wrong text. |
[04:49:00] | newbie-ma: | Apologies to all. |
[04:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | not with an IDE to CF adapter/. Just looks like another harddrive |
[04:49:00] | wasabi: | Ahh. |
[04:49:00] | newbie-ma: | Anyway, I asked about the kworld "terminator" card. |
[04:49:00] | wasabi: | I am considering some options I have available for differnet customers. |
[04:49:00] | wasabi: | Can do super small fanless network bootable boxes for those customers who want a media server in a closet. |
[04:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think there might be a CF based linux/mythtv distro out there already for the Epia systems |
[04:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Something I've seen mentioned in here a few times |
[04:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | takes up like 50 megs compressed or something silly |
[04:51:00] | newbie-ma: | Oh – I see what's happening now – mea culpa. Anyway, there's a posting at http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1411&start=0 from someone who has the same card. I was wondering whether someone might be able to take a loo |
[04:52:00] | newbie-ma: | The card itself is described at http://www.kworld.com.tw/en/product/Studio-TV . . . minator.html |
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[04:56:00] | Qwell: | anybody happen to know the chipset the pvr-150mce (not just the 150) uses? |
[04:57:00] | Igg-man: | When loading the ivtv drivers, I get "i2c client addr: 0x44 not found!" in dmesg, is there something I'm doing wrong? |
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[05:01:00] | diamon: | I think that can show up if the remote isn't connected. |
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[05:05:00] | Igg-man: | diamon: Oh, okay. Last time I checked, I still did not get any video from it |
[05:06:00] | Igg-man: | diamon: Is there a way to get video out of the card not using mythtv? I saw cat /dev/video0 > somefile.mpg on a site, but I didn't get any info |
[05:06:00] | Igg-man: | any output... |
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[05:16:00] | Igg-man: | Oh well, I'm too tired to work on this |
[05:16:00] | Igg-man: | I'll look at it more some other time |
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[05:20:00] | defaultro: | anyone here uses mplayer with sound via spdif? |
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[05:29:00] | newbie-ma: | Well, it seems no one here knows anything about this "terminator" card, so I guess I'll have to boot into Windoze to try it out. Thanks anyway. |
[05:33:00] | Darby: | w00t!!! everything works now!!! |
[05:33:00] | Darby: | sorry, just excited |
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[06:29:00] | defaultro: | this one worked for me in spdif, -ao alsa:mmap:device=hw=0.2 |
[06:29:00] | defaultro: | is this a good parameter? |
[06:29:00] | defaultro: | oops, wrong channel :) |
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[06:54:00] | Netslayer: | crap mythtv crashes x11 when i have xompmgr transparency on |
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[06:58:00] | torben: | hi |
[07:00:00] | torben: | do those via motherboards support some kind of standby for an ir-interface, so that one can power up mythtv via remote? |
[07:01:00] | Netslayer: | never heard about that..doubt it highly |
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[07:06:00] | bigslam: | yo what is that website for the myth like thing but u can use security cams and stuff like that |
[07:06:00] | Netslayer: | mythphone |
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[07:07:00] | Netslayer: | k i'm going to crash again brb |
[07:07:00] | bigslam: | mythphone? |
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[07:10:00] | torben: | so, how do you switch on your mythtv htpcs? stand up, press the powerbutton, sit back and wait for linux to boot? |
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[07:11:00] | Qwell: | torben: surely it would be trimmed down alot |
[07:12:00] | torben: | excuse my english..what does "trimmed down" mean? |
[07:13:00] | Qwell: | slimmed, cut out the extra crap, etc |
[07:13:00] | torben: | the linux? so that it boots faster? |
[07:13:00] | bigslam: | so does anyone know that name of the thing thats like mythtv but u can control security cams |
[07:14:00] | bigslam: | started with a p |
[07:15:00] | Qwell: | torben: pretty much |
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[07:17:00] | torben: | sounds good. i'm planning to install knoppmyth on a compact flash card – can you tell me how much space a standart install needs? |
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[07:18:00] | Qwell: | got me |
[07:18:00] | Qwell: | Cardoe: afternoon |
[07:18:00] | bigslam: | found it pluto thats it |
[07:19:00] | Cardoe: | evening |
[07:19:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
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[07:19:00] | Qwell: | Cardoe: ever do anything about the metacity stuff? heh |
[07:19:00] | Qwell: | (the focus stealing prevention crap) |
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[07:20:00] | Qwell: | sorry, I guess its offtopic here... |
[07:20:00] | banyan: | Hello! Anyone using fc4 with mythtv and ivtv? |
[07:21:00] | travolta: | <- slackware :) |
[07:21:00] | travolta: | +ivtv |
[07:23:00] | banyan: | Just wanna know whether I should be trying to upgrade to fc4 yet/ |
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[07:28:00] | torben: | how about the quality of the tv-out on via epia boards – do they compare with xbox (xbmc)? |
[07:29:00] | torben: | and in general – would a mythtv box running on an epia system be as good as xbmc? |
[07:31:00] | banyan: | Does FC4 work with mythtv and ivtv? |
[07:32:00] | Qwell: | banyan: I don't see why it wouldn't |
[07:32:00] | Cardoe: | Qwell: metacity? |
[07:32:00] | Cardoe: | Qwell: didn't realize that was me |
[07:32:00] | Qwell: | Cardoe: Didn't we talk a few weeks ago? I forget. heh |
[07:32:00] | Cardoe: | not me |
[07:32:00] | Qwell: | in #asterisk? I'm pretty sure it was |
[07:32:00] | banyan: | Just heard that it's not quite up for all the modules and so on that are required. |
[07:32:00] | Qwell: | anyhow, not worried about it |
[07:33:00] | Qwell: | banyan: so recompile your kernel |
[07:33:00] | banyan: | I'd rather have binaries available. |
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[07:36:00] | banyan: | It's just that some of the packages and os on aren't quite available yet on fc4. |
[07:46:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, am able to play rtsp now using mplayer via mythtv. However, I don't know if lirc is now supported in mplayer. Any ideas? |
[07:47:00] | travolta: | it is but i dont knwo how to set it up |
[07:48:00] | defaultro: | ok |
[07:48:00] | travolta: | mplayer supports lirc, but i dont know about mplayer inside mythtv |
[07:49:00] | defaultro: | oh, am doing that now |
[07:49:00] | defaultro: | i'm calling mplayer in mythtv without any issues :) |
[07:49:00] | defaultro: | it's cool |
[07:49:00] | defaultro: | I'm playing a NASA stream |
[07:49:00] | defaultro: | i'll research about mplayer and lirc |
[07:49:00] | travolta: | whats rtsp or whatever |
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[07:49:00] | travolta: | ? |
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[07:52:00] | defaultro: | real stream |
[07:52:00] | defaultro: | Real stream |
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[07:56:00] | djperegrine: | I was stoopid enough to get a MCE card |
[07:56:00] | djperegrine: | it was cheapter |
[07:56:00] | djperegrine: | *cheaper |
[07:57:00] | djperegrine: | I ended up bending my case up |
[07:57:00] | djperegrine: | so I could fit the card |
[07:57:00] | Qwell: | djperegrine: MCE cards no good? |
[07:57:00] | djperegrine: | shit , they won |
[07:57:00] | djperegrine: | 't work? |
[07:57:00] | Qwell: | I don't know, I'm asking you |
[07:57:00] | djperegrine: | well they didn't fit itno the case |
[07:58:00] | djperegrine: | Its just a PCI card |
[07:58:00] | Qwell: | yeah.. |
[07:58:00] | Qwell: | I'm looking at buying the low profile one for a mini-itx |
[07:58:00] | djperegrine: | accually its just a PVR-150 |
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[07:58:00] | Qwell: | well, I'd want the MCE specifically for the FM tuner |
[07:58:00] | djperegrine: | :> |
[07:58:00] | djperegrine: | I hate the radio |
[07:58:00] | Qwell: | ...if it works |
[07:58:00] | Qwell: | djperegrine: its for my car :D |
[07:58:00] | djperegrine: | well |
[07:58:00] | djperegrine: | :OO |
[07:59:00] | djperegrine: | how does that work out? |
[07:59:00] | djperegrine: | you have a computer in your car ? |
[07:59:00] | Qwell: | I will |
[07:59:00] | djperegrine: | like embeded into the frame or something? |
[07:59:00] | Qwell: | I'm gonna try to get one that'll fit into double DIN in the dash |
[08:00:00] | Qwell: | (where the radio would be) |
[08:00:00] | Cardoe: | Qwell: oh yeah. in #asterisk we did |
[08:00:00] | Qwell: | Cardoe: grep your logs? heh |
[08:00:00] | Cardoe: | Qwell: but not about metacity |
[08:00:00] | Qwell: | well, gnome. |
[08:00:00] | Cardoe: | I was watching Law & Order: SVU |
[08:00:00] | Qwell: | but its pretty much the fault of metacity |
[08:01:00] | djperegrine: | I just watched madness combat 5 on my myth box :D |
[08:01:00] | Qwell: | djperegrine: Do you know if the FM tuner on the 150mce works well in Linux? |
[08:01:00] | djperegrine: | no Idea I literally just put the card in |
[08:02:00] | djperegrine: | I think ivtv has support for it though |
[08:02:00] | Qwell: | djperegrine: if you ever decide to check it, could you keep me in mind and let me know? |
[08:02:00] | djperegrine: | yep can do |
[08:02:00] | djperegrine: | let me get video working first |
[08:03:00] | Qwell: | I'm on freenode all the time |
[08:03:00] | Qwell: | no hurry |
[08:03:00] | djperegrine: | aight |
[08:03:00] | djperegrine: | I wasn't gunna anyway :P |
[08:03:00] | djperegrine: | drivers :/ |
[08:03:00] | djperegrine: | i hate teh drivers |
[08:04:00] | Qwell: | I can't wait to build my car pc... |
[08:05:00] | Qwell: | 3 LCDs (one touchscreen in the front), wireless, FM tuner...oh yeah |
[08:05:00] | Qwell: | gps, rearview camera(pending) |
[08:05:00] | Qwell: | and of course a cd/dvd player |
[08:06:00] | djperegrine: | :P |
[08:06:00] | djperegrine: | Wireless :O |
[08:06:00] | djperegrine: | how the hell will that work? |
[08:06:00] | Qwell: | to sync with my server when I'm at home. ;] |
[08:07:00] | djperegrine: | yea but how will you connect? |
[08:07:00] | Qwell: | what do you mean? |
[08:07:00] | djperegrine: | what server will you connect to the internet with |
[08:07:00] | Qwell: | not the internet, just my LAN |
[08:07:00] | djperegrine: | you can't just connect to random servers they go by to quickly |
[08:07:00] | djperegrine: | Oh when you are parked in your garage? |
[08:08:00] | Qwell: | yeah |
[08:08:00] | Qwell: | rsync some video over at night or something |
[08:08:00] | djperegrine: | got it |
[08:09:00] | djperegrine: | arggg |
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[08:15:00] | djperegrine: | how do you config the kernel? |
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[08:15:00] | djperegrine: | menuconfig ? |
[08:15:00] | djperegrine: | I forget the command |
[08:15:00] | didj: | 'make menuconfig' |
[08:15:00] | djperegrine: | ah thanks |
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[09:07:00] | torben: | i can't figure out how much diskspace a standart knoppmyth installation needs – will 1gb be enough? |
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[09:40:00] | Gumby: | torben: nope, I dont believe that it is |
[09:41:00] | Gumby: | but I honestly cant remember. I think I installed on a 4gb drive |
[09:44:00] | torben: | :( |
[09:45:00] | torben: | i want to install it on a compactflash drive, so that there's no noise at all |
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[12:51:00] | t0t3r2: | seems like SVN archives are down ... |
[12:51:00] | t0t3r2: | is there a mirror .. or can i download a recent snapchot elsewhere |
[12:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | No mirrors I've ever heard of, and snapshots are not done, at least nothing official |
[12:57:00] | t0t3r2: | can u pack me one |
[12:57:00] | t0t3r2: | isnt too big either |
[12:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't have access to my systems which have it at the moment |
[13:00:00] | t0t3r2: | too ba d... thx anyway |
[13:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | plus the source I have is modified, at least with regaards to mythgame |
[13:00:00] | t0t3r2: | whats modified? |
[13:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm in the middle of code changes. haven't checked any of them in in days |
[13:01:00] | t0t3r2: | in fact i just need the mythtv source ... not plugins |
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[14:55:00] | torben: | wow, it's so hard to figure out if the hardware i want to get will run with knoppmyth |
[14:57:00] | torben: | can't you just name a dvb-t card that works nice? |
[15:00:00] | Tommck: | torben – KnoppMyth is not Myth |
[15:00:00] | Tommck: | it is an operating system which happens to have Myth on it |
[15:01:00] | Tommck: | Thus, unless one of the KnoppMyth developers happens to be in here, the people here don't control what KnoppMyth supports |
[15:01:00] | torben: | okay..a dvb-t card that runs good on linux |
[15:01:00] | Tommck: | The people in here also don't control Linux or DVB drivers |
[15:02:00] | Tommck: | I'd recommend google searching for people talking about DVB-T and MythTV |
[15:03:00] | torben: | okay |
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[15:22:00] | CyberKnet: | Hah. TomsHardware reviews a DeskStar and comes to the conclusion "Bigger isn't always better." ... Isn't that just the understatement of the century? |
[15:23:00] | Tommck: | isn't that what women always tell you? :) |
[15:31:00] | torben: | :) |
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[15:46:00] | Darby: | Hi all, I just got my IR Blaster set up, and it mostly works. The one problem I'm having is that it isn't sending 3 digit channels. It sends 16 rather than 016 to change to channel 16, and this doesn't work. Any idea what I need to do? |
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[16:51:00] | jvs_: | CyberKnet: you know what women say about the size?! |
[16:51:00] | CyberKnet: | jvs_: Hmmm. No, I can't say that I do. |
[16:52:00] | jvs_: | CyberKnet: "ouch" |
[16:53:00] | CyberKnet: | jvs_: I heard that the women complain about this model because it calls quittin time too early. |
[16:54:00] | jvs_: | :) |
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[16:55:00] | jonK: | this is not the best conversation to jump into the middle of... |
[16:59:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[16:59:00] | Beirdo: | you do realize that this is logged? |
[16:59:00] | Beirdo: | and that google does crawl the logs? :) |
[17:01:00] | GotD0t: | ok something is really wrong with my install |
[17:02:00] | GotD0t: | my program guide data keeps disappearing |
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[17:03:00] | GotD0t: | and trying to run mythfilldatabase returns a mysql error saying that it cant open the file program.MYI |
[17:03:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: what is so wrong with saying that a DeskStar calls quitting time early? |
[17:03:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[17:03:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: It is a well known fact. |
[17:04:00] | GotD0t: | and a locate shows that it doesn't exist |
[17:04:00] | CyberKnet: | Well, it was with the IBM DeskStars. |
[17:05:00] | CyberKnet: | I don't know how the hitachi ones are doing. |
[17:06:00] | CyberKnet: | except that they're very hot. |
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[17:11:00] | cortezdapimp: | hello |
[17:11:00] | cortezdapimp: | something is filling up my / partition... |
[17:11:00] | CyberKnet: | GotD0t: Sounds like something is deleting the file maybe? |
[17:11:00] | GotD0t: | exactly |
[17:11:00] | CyberKnet: | cortezdapimp: I'd look for a file that is growing, or a large growth of new files =P" |
[17:11:00] | GotD0t: | but why? |
[17:12:00] | CyberKnet: | w00t. I am the king of obvious today. |
[17:12:00] | cortezdapimp: | i use a program on os x called whatsize that breaks down what is using up all my space hierarchically – is there anything like that for linux? |
[17:12:00] | CyberKnet: | cortezdapimp: man du |
[17:12:00] | cortezdapimp: | k |
[17:15:00] | Discipulus: | hmm |
[17:15:00] | Discipulus: | I'm hungry |
[17:15:00] | Discipulus: | I need food |
[17:15:00] | Discipulus: | can MythTV do that for me? |
[17:16:00] | GotD0t: | CyberKnet: any way to find out whats deleting it |
[17:27:00] | CyberKnet: | GotD0t:Hmmm. |
[17:27:00] | CyberKnet: | I wouldn't imagine something is deleting it. |
[17:28:00] | didj: | GotD0t: lost power (ie, not clean shutdown) recently? |
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[17:29:00] | GotD0t: | nope didj |
[17:35:00] | CyberKnet: | GotD0t: Well, restore the database from a backup, and keep on trucking. |
[17:36:00] | GotD0t: | backup? |
[17:36:00] | CyberKnet: | GotD0t: check your cron jobs for anything mysterious, and if nothing found, write it up to "bad protons emitted from sun causing random electron flipping" |
[17:36:00] | GotD0t: | well there has been some solar activity in the past week |
[17:36:00] | CyberKnet: | GotD0t: at least it's only your program table then. |
[17:37:00] | CyberKnet: | GotD0t: and may I suggest a nightly backup of the output from mysqldump? |
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[17:38:00] | GotD0t: | hmm? |
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[17:40:00] | CyberKnet: | GotD0t: hmm? |
[17:41:00] | GotD0t: | explain the nightly backup |
[17:41:00] | CyberKnet: | man mysqldump |
[17:41:00] | CyberKnet: | man bzip2 |
[17:41:00] | CyberKnet: | man crontab |
[17:42:00] | CyberKnet: | everything you need is right there. |
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[17:42:00] | Beirdo: | man man |
[17:42:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
[17:45:00] | Beirdo: | x-chat sucks |
[17:46:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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[17:46:00] | Beirdo: | oooh |
[17:46:00] | Beirdo: | maybe it's bitlbee that sucks |
[17:46:00] | Beirdo: | é |
[17:46:00] | Beirdo: | you see that correctly? |
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[17:47:00] | jams: | e with a tick above it? |
[17:47:00] | Beirdo: | yah |
[17:47:00] | jams: | yep |
[17:47:00] | Beirdo: | must be bitlbee that needs a boot to the head then |
[17:47:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
[17:47:00] | Beirdo: | it won't send accents out via Yahoo |
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[17:53:00] | sphing_: | dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc will backup my hda to hdc right? |
[17:54:00] | Discipulus: | sphing_, yes |
[17:54:00] | sphing_: | thank you |
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[18:03:00] | cortezdapimp: | thanks cyber... i didn't figure out what was growing so quickly but i was able to find some stuff to get rid of. |
[18:04:00] | CyberKnet: | cortezdapimp: good stuff. |
[18:04:00] | CyberKnet: | cortezdapimp: the likely candidates are in /var, and /tmp |
[18:04:00] | CyberKnet: | after that, check the mysql database files aren't growing astronomically. |
[18:04:00] | CyberKnet: | if it's not that, then that is where du excels. |
[18:05:00] | Beirdo: | /var/log in particular :) |
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[18:05:00] | CyberKnet: | indeed |
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[18:06:00] | CyberKnet: | although on occasion I have had /usr/src be the culprit =P" |
[18:06:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[18:06:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
[18:06:00] | Beirdo: | as long as it isn't /tmp/pr0n |
[18:06:00] | cortezdapimp: | i deleted the runaway log files and still had 0% in df |
[18:06:00] | cortezdapimp: | lol |
[18:06:00] | CyberKnet: | You get a few kernel versions, X11 and QT all in there at once... =P" |
[18:07:00] | CyberKnet: | cortezdapimp: is your entire system running from one partition? |
[18:07:00] | cortezdapimp: | no |
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[18:07:00] | Beirdo: | Ahoy, xris |
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[18:08:00] | cortezdapimp: | root is about 3gb, /myth is about 60gb, /myth/tv is 160, and /cache is about 8gb |
[18:08:00] | cortezdapimp: | and i guess theres a swap in there soemwhere |
[18:09:00] | xris: | ahoy |
[18:09:00] | rtsai: | is there a known problem with nuvexport incorrect determining the number of frames in a mythtv recording? |
[18:10:00] | rtsai: | I'm adding ETA to the progress output: |
[18:10:00] | rtsai: | Waiting for mythtranscode to set up the fifos. |
[18:10:00] | rtsai: | Starting ffmpeg. |
[18:10:00] | rtsai: | 110726 of 2424765 frames (0.05%), 52.12fps (12:19:59 remaining) |
[18:10:00] | rtsai: | mythtranscode finished. |
[18:10:00] | rtsai: | 110832 of 2424765 frames (0.05%), 53.03fps (12:07:11 remaining) |
[18:10:00] | rtsai: | ffmpeg finished. |
[18:10:00] | Beirdo: | have fun with that |
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[18:13:00] | sphing: | dd is a bit copy right, so it wont care if i'm copy from ntfs? |
[18:13:00] | rtsai: | so it works, except the frame count is wrong, which makes the ETA wrong |
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[18:14:00] | xris: | rtsai: yes. it gets it from mythtranscode, or the last flagged GOP. |
[18:14:00] | xris: | and doesn't take commercial flagging into account |
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[18:15:00] | rtsai: | right. Commflagging, fine. But it's a commfree channel (just a cutlist to take out the PBS pledge solicitation). The real problem is multiplying the GOP value by 12 or 15 |
[18:16:00] | Beirdo: | well that's how ivtv captures are done |
[18:16:00] | rtsai: | Beirdo: talking to me? |
[18:16:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
[18:16:00] | rtsai: | So you're saying you're not surprised (my recordings are all DVB from OTA HD-3000). |
[18:16:00] | Beirdo: | PAL ivtv captures are 12 frames per GOP, NTSC is 15 |
[18:17:00] | rtsai: | i see |
[18:17:00] | Beirdo: | if the GOP markings are in there the way ivtv recordings are done, then we assume it's an ivtv recording |
[18:17:00] | rtsai: | i think i have many many more marks than that between my "type=6" rows |
[18:17:00] | Beirdo: | the DVB ones use different markings |
[18:17:00] | Beirdo: | or at least used to |
[18:17:00] | Beirdo: | type=9, I think it was |
[18:17:00] | rtsai: | er, yeah |
[18:18:00] | rtsai: | but basically i have to figure out what the DVB marking scheme is, then. |
[18:18:00] | Beirdo: | and if that's been removed, shame on people for that :) |
[18:18:00] | rtsai: | thx |
[18:18:00] | Beirdo: | if it's type=6, we assume a fixed GOP length |
[18:19:00] | Beirdo: | if there are no type=6, we look for type=9, which actually give frame numbers |
[18:19:00] | Beirdo: | I think it's 9 |
[18:19:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, you get the idea |
[18:19:00] | rtsai: | yeah, i think so. Basically, the code assumes IVTV values, but DVB values are different, so I have to figure out the new scaling factor for DVB recordings (and figure out how to distinguish IVTV from DVB). |
[18:20:00] | Beirdo: | no |
[18:20:00] | rtsai: | heh |
[18:20:00] | Beirdo: | we assume ivtv if type=6 markings exist |
[18:20:00] | Beirdo: | if they don't, we use the other markings |
[18:20:00] | Beirdo: | it already does this |
[18:20:00] | Beirdo: | http://pics.beirdo.ca/Waterfront/DSC_2746 |
[18:20:00] | Beirdo: | the Rochester-Toronto ferry is running again with new owners |
[18:21:00] | Beirdo: | hand-held 300mm... |
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[18:27:00] | xoritor: | man... this gets better and better! |
[18:27:00] | xoritor: | thanks everyone for so much help |
[18:27:00] | xoritor: | as i get things working more and more... i want to setup more and more! |
[18:27:00] | xoritor: | hehe |
[18:27:00] | xoritor: | there is a problem it seems with the docs page |
[18:28:00] | xoritor: | http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall |
[18:28:00] | xoritor: | I cant get it anyways |
[18:33:00] | laga: | xoritor: the docs are in the tarball, too |
[18:33:00] | xoritor: | hmmm |
[18:34:00] | xoritor: | thx |
[18:34:00] | xoritor: | did i mess something up or is there no "ripper" option in the setup menus anymore |
[18:34:00] | xoritor: | for dvd |
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[18:46:00] | Beirdo: | FatDarrel: get on the ferry already. :) |
[18:46:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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[18:49:00] | FatDarrel: | Beirdo: huh ? |
[18:49:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[18:49:00] | Beirdo: | you in Rochester, NY or some other Rochester? |
[18:50:00] | Qwell: | rochester MN? |
[18:50:00] | Beirdo: | ah, that would explain your confusion :) |
[18:50:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
[18:50:00] | Beirdo: | that's right |
[18:50:00] | Beirdo: | you are in MN |
[18:50:00] | Beirdo: | I shoulda remembered that |
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[18:58:00] | jonK: | I've been to Rochester MN many times |
[18:59:00] | kormoc: | I've been to Rochester NY many times. |
[19:01:00] | CyberKnet: | Man I wish they would approve a .web TLD |
[19:02:00] | zuralin: | theres too many TLD's |
[19:02:00] | CyberKnet: | Yeah, but I *so* want the address teh.intar.web |
[19:02:00] | kormoc: | Nah, I think that given the flexability of the web |
[19:02:00] | kormoc: | we could do quite well with a bunch more TLD |
[19:02:00] | jonK: | I've only been to Rochester NY once |
[19:03:00] | xris: | anyone want to buy a dual athlon? |
[19:03:00] | Qwell: | xris: I'll give you $5 |
[19:03:00] | xris: | heh |
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[19:03:00] | xris: | just calculated it out, costs me $3.80/week in electricity, and it doesn't even run all day. |
[19:03:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: I'll give you six *plus* shipping. |
[19:03:00] | CyberKnet: | that's two weeks savings =) |
[19:03:00] | Qwell: | $7 plus shipping, plus handling! |
[19:04:00] | xris: | heh |
[19:04:00] | Qwell: | and tax! |
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[19:04:00] | CyberKnet: | I'll give you Qwell Offer + USD$1, for values of Qwell offer <= 100 |
[19:04:00] | ** xris ponders what to do with it once he gets a new machine. ** | |
[19:04:00] | CyberKnet: | =P" |
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[19:04:00] | xris: | lol |
[19:04:00] | CyberKnet: | =P" |
[19:04:00] | Qwell: | $101, you pay shipping, and screw the tax |
[19:04:00] | Qwell: | ;] |
[19:05:00] | CyberKnet: | erm. that would be no better than my highest offer, silly =) |
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[19:05:00] | CyberKnet: | you'd need to go to 102 =P" |
[19:05:00] | ** xris wonders what he can get to replace it for $301 ** | |
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[19:05:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: why $301? |
[19:05:00] | Qwell: | xris: a system that costs $3.90 a week to run |
[19:05:00] | xris: | well, $200/year in electricity savings |
[19:05:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: lmao. |
[19:06:00] | beavis: | Error processing project file: /home/beavis/myth/trunk/mythtv/config/config.pro |
[19:06:00] | beavis: | ^^^ what the problem with make distclean |
[19:06:00] | MidgetSpy: | I read that some Via chipsets have issues with lots of DMA traffic... how do I check what chipset I have? |
[19:06:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: You'd have to go Pentium M, or mini-itx to get those kind of savings =) |
[19:06:00] | xris: | actually, $150... the new p4's uses 1/4 the electricity. |
[19:06:00] | Qwell: | MidgetSpy: lspci should give some hints |
[19:06:00] | zuralin: | fuck intel |
[19:06:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: actually, my wife's 3G p4 HT uses 3 amps vs 1.3 amps (athlon) at idle |
[19:06:00] | beavis: | xris: do they use Cool'n'Quite now? |
[19:06:00] | kormoc: | zuralin, !!! Such Language! |
[19:07:00] | xris: | brought the clamp meter home from work and tested all of my boxes. the fastest box had the lowest power consumption. |
[19:07:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: forgive me if I'm being ignorant, but isn't 2 x 1.3amps = 2.6amps < 3amps? |
[19:08:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: any progress? |
[19:08:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: total. |
[19:08:00] | xris: | I measured the total draw of the system (including hard drives) |
[19:08:00] | ** kormoc shakes his head. ** | |
[19:08:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: and 1.3amps is just for the athlon cpu? |
[19:08:00] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, tried a half dozen or so versions of IVTV and no go :/ |
[19:08:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: no, the whole system. |
[19:08:00] | Qwell: | So your wifes system costs > $7/week? |
[19:08:00] | xris: | put clamp meter around power wire, watch amps flow through. |
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[19:09:00] | xris: | Qwell: no, hers is about $1/week (if it was idle the whole time)... she has the faster box (p4).. dual athlon is mine. |
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[19:09:00] | Qwell: | isn't 3 higher then 1.3? |
[19:09:00] | jonK: | kormoc: have not seen from posts, what issue are you having? |
[19:09:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: well I'm understanding that you are telling us that the P4 uses 3amps, and the dual athlon uses 1.3amps ... and that somehow that makes the P4 use less electricity? |
[19:09:00] | jonK: | meaning "more high?" |
[19:10:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: 0.3 |
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[19:10:00] | MidgetSpy: | Qwell: thanks, that did it – it seems I don't have one of the problem chipsets, hurrah! :0) |
[19:10:00] | xris: | guess I missed the . before |
[19:10:00] | CyberKnet: | Yeah |
[19:10:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
[19:10:00] | kormoc: | johnp_, I have a m179 mepg card, I get a picture, tuner silently fails, the card is stuck on PAX and there's no output saying why. |
[19:10:00] | CyberKnet: | understand my confusion? =) |
[19:11:00] | rben: | How do you fix that invalid mode number thing that comes up when you boot KnoppMyth? does anyone know? |
[19:11:00] | kormoc: | johnp_, sorry, that was to jonk |
[19:11:00] | jonK: | figured... |
[19:11:00] | jonK: | ouch |
[19:11:00] | jonK: | PAx the network? |
[19:11:00] | kormoc: | yup |
[19:11:00] | xris: | wow. kormoc just priced out my box at about $1k to build again.... so it's worth a lot more than I thought. |
[19:11:00] | jonK: | well then what's the problem? |
[19:11:00] | CyberKnet: | jonK: Yeah. and lord knows there's nothing worth watching on PAX. |
[19:11:00] | kormoc: | jonK, I don't want to watch just pax? |
[19:11:00] | jams: | rben invalid mode? |
[19:11:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: neat =) |
[19:12:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: sort of. only worth what someone else would pay for it. heh. |
[19:12:00] | jonK: | you're not wanting to watch pax is unrelated to mythtv |
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[19:12:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: heh |
[19:12:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: good luck with that =) |
[19:12:00] | jonK: | I think you need to reevaluate your viewing choices |
[19:12:00] | xris: | well, that's for new parts. heh. |
[19:12:00] | rben: | jams, yeah, it comes up right after the BIOS check, it wants to know waht resolution and color depth to use |
[19:12:00] | jams: | might be in /etc/lilo.conf look for vga=XXXX and change it to vga=normal |
[19:12:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: no, I just meant good luck selling it in general. hope you get a good price =) |
[19:12:00] | rben: | I'll check! |
[19:13:00] | jams: | well vga=normal will fix the problem but it may not be the resolution you want :) |
[19:13:00] | jonK: | I assume you've tried ramping out the debug output |
[19:13:00] | jonK: | for ivtv and tuner. |
[19:13:00] | jams: | don't forget after you change lilo.conf you have to rerun lilo |
[19:13:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: send a bzip2 log of your dmesg from init to capture over on to the ivtv list with ivtv_debug=255 . maybe someone there will have an idea. |
[19:13:00] | rben: | thanks for the reminder.... right now have to get back into the box. I think the wireless iddn't come up for some reason, argh |
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[19:16:00] | rben: | This is strange, got wireless and wired ethernet on one box. Both i/f come up fine if wired is plugged in. If wired is not set to auto start, the wlan0 doesn't come up. |
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[19:18:00] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, kk, I shall do so. |
[19:19:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: no idea how to get it to show from START IVTV INIT to END IVTV INIT though. That may be tricky since it hasn't been wanting to do that for you so far. |
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[19:23:00] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, I'll have to tail -f /var/log/kernel/current > file and yoink from that |
[19:25:00] | rben: | For some reason, if my eth0 link isn't up, my wlan0 link connects to my neighbors wireless net, not mine |
[19:25:00] | rben: | how wierd |
[19:25:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: yeah. I usually just clear dmesg before doing it, but I'm known for doing things the hard way. |
[19:25:00] | beavis: | it's cheaper for yuo |
[19:26:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: I still need to change my capture script over to dd as per your suggestion. |
[19:26:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: thanks a lot for that suggestion though, btw. |
[19:26:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
[19:26:00] | kormoc: | your welcome |
[19:27:00] | kormoc: | dd if=/dev/videoX of=file_to_capture_to bs=1024 count=how_many_K_you_want_to_capture |
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[19:38:00] | djperegrine: | how can I tell what input to put on my tvtuner? |
[19:39:00] | jonK: | do you mean in the mythv-setup program? |
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[19:46:00] | djperegrine: | yea |
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[19:58:00] | feoh: | Folks. |
[19:58:00] | kormoc: | Folk |
[19:58:00] | feoh: | Got my Myth up and running, all I have to do is get channel changing going (using a DB9 via serial port) and sound on playback, and I'm in good shape :) |
[20:00:00] | feoh: | Pretty neat |
[20:01:00] | rben: | is there a quick way to determine what runlevel you are at? |
[20:03:00] | Riff-Raff: | runlevel |
[20:03:00] | rben: | doh |
[20:03:00] | rben: | thanks |
[20:03:00] | kormoc: | bash: runlevel: command not found |
[20:03:00] | kormoc: | :P |
[20:03:00] | Riff-Raff: | /sbin/runlevel |
[20:04:00] | rben: | This is wierd, too. For some reason, one of my scripts which is S20lirc in rc5.d apparently isn't being run |
[20:04:00] | rben: | so the IR isn't working when I start up |
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[20:05:00] | xoritor: | rben i found that i had to add a modprobe to load the ir modules |
[20:05:00] | xoritor: | rben what distro? |
[20:05:00] | rben: | Knoppmyth |
[20:05:00] | rben: | if I just run the start script after booting, it works fine |
[20:05:00] | xoritor: | rben, i dunno how that works then |
[20:05:00] | rben: | I thought I did :) |
[20:05:00] | xoritor: | heh |
[20:05:00] | xoritor: | is it from dvd? |
[20:05:00] | xoritor: | or cd? |
[20:05:00] | xoritor: | or hdd |
[20:05:00] | rben: | CD's |
[20:06:00] | xoritor: | hmm |
[20:06:00] | xoritor: | i dunno |
[20:06:00] | rben: | CD actually, one I burnt |
[20:06:00] | xoritor: | never played with live distros |
[20:06:00] | rben: | It's booting from HD |
[20:06:00] | rben: | it installs from single CD |
[20:06:00] | xoritor: | aah |
[20:06:00] | rben: | It's been a very easy way to use mythtv for me |
[20:06:00] | xoritor: | well.. you can add a modprobe line and an install line |
[20:06:00] | xoritor: | install lirc_i2c /sbin/modprobe ivtv; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install lirc_i2c |
[20:07:00] | xoritor: | and i use FC4 so... |
[20:07:00] | rben: | trying to move this current box to the living room since I got PVR-350 out working, so now I need to get the wireless working and solve the IR problem |
[20:07:00] | xoritor: | have you tried wireless? |
[20:07:00] | ** xoritor is skeptical on wireless ** | |
[20:07:00] | rben: | yep, wireless works well except that I can't seem to have it book with correct config |
[20:07:00] | xoritor: | modprobe lirc_i2c |
[20:08:00] | rben: | unless the wired link is working |
[20:08:00] | xoritor: | i have that in my /etc/sysconfig/lircd |
[20:08:00] | xoritor: | hmm |
[20:08:00] | xoritor: | odd |
[20:08:00] | ** xoritor is running cables ** | |
[20:08:00] | xoritor: | heh |
[20:08:00] | rben: | I'm sure the modprobe stuff is working, or the scripts wouldn't work correctly after boot up |
[20:08:00] | xoritor: | true |
[20:08:00] | rben: | I got apt. so no cables to LR |
[20:08:00] | rben: | and my wife wants it there so she can watch tv while in tread mill |
[20:08:00] | xoritor: | heh |
[20:09:00] | rben: | and I want her to use tread mill cause it's fun to watch her sweat |
[20:09:00] | rben: | and run |
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[20:09:00] | rben: | especially in tight t-shirt |
[20:09:00] | xoritor: | hahahaha |
[20:10:00] | xoritor: | well i have almost everything setup that i need to for my first myth box |
[20:10:00] | rben: | cool, you'll love it |
[20:10:00] | xoritor: | my wife wants to compare the interface... use... etc... |
[20:10:00] | xoritor: | myth vs. time warner cable pvr thingy |
[20:10:00] | rben: | turn on all 3 methods for commercial detection |
[20:10:00] | jonK: | rben: i've wanted to ask about that, why do you suggest all three |
[20:11:00] | rben: | yes |
[20:11:00] | xoritor: | if she likes it ill be building lots more... |
[20:11:00] | rben: | works much better, we occasionally see part of a commercial, but don't miss any show |
[20:11:00] | xoritor: | hmm |
[20:11:00] | rben: | I figure it's about 95% accurage |
[20:11:00] | rben: | accurate rather |
[20:11:00] | xoritor: | ill have to play with that |
[20:12:00] | rben: | What I do when I'm watching, is start program, hit E, then Z, to load the commerical cut llist, then E again. Then it skips all commercials |
[20:12:00] | rben: | if you have it transcode after making cutlist, it will leave out commercials |
[20:13:00] | xoritor: | i think i have it doing that now... i need to check it |
[20:13:00] | rben: | jonK I suggest all three simply because it seems to work best for us that way |
[20:13:00] | rben: | Now, if there was only something good to watch on TV... |
[20:14:00] | rben: | Oh, don't forget to write down everything you did to get your box working |
[20:14:00] | rben: | you'll need it later, eventually |
[20:15:00] | rah: | is there a way to only update the channel list rather than adding to it using the channel scanning functionality? |
[20:15:00] | rben: | I put all my stuff in an article on my website, so I can find it whenever I change things and break my box |
[20:16:00] | rah: | rben: you should have put it in a wiki |
[20:16:00] | rah: | rben: why *didn't* you put it in a wiki? |
[20:17:00] | Igg-man: | I get the error "ivtv: i2c client addr: 0x44 not found!" in dmesg, and I get no video |
[20:17:00] | Igg-man: | any idea what might cause that? |
[20:17:00] | rben: | I haven't because of the problem with trying to keep the wiki free of garbage graffiti |
[20:17:00] | rben: | I've had enough problems just keeping the comment spammers off my site |
[20:17:00] | rah: | rben: which wiki? |
[20:18:00] | rben: | I had a wiki on my site |
[20:18:00] | jonK: | Iggman- what cards do you have? |
[20:18:00] | rben: | I was using Tiki Wiki I think |
[20:18:00] | rah: | rben: that the same thing as putting it in html |
[20:18:00] | rah: | rben: what I'ms saying is: you should put it in a community-driven pool of information (ie, a wiki) |
[20:19:00] | rah: | rben: rather than publishing it alone, soley on your site |
[20:19:00] | rben: | I might do that once I'm sure I have everything working the right way |
[20:19:00] | rben: | Still have to fix wireless and this remote thing |
[20:19:00] | rah: | why would you wait until then? |
[20:19:00] | rben: | Because so far, I don't have anything better than what's out there already. I used instructions on the Knoppmythwiki |
[20:20:00] | Igg-man: | jonK: I have the pvr-500 |
[20:20:00] | Igg-man: | jonK: I'm not confident I have the firmware files in the right spot |
[20:20:00] | rben: | When I get done, I'll link to the Knoppmythwiki from my site, and if I've figured out these other two problems, add stuff on how to solve them |
[20:20:00] | kormoc: | Igg-man, wanna trade with me? 2 m179's for the 500? :P |
[20:20:00] | rah: | rben: then why did you publish an article? |
[20:20:00] | rben: | I did that when I got the first version working |
[20:20:00] | Igg-man: | kormoc: It actually isn't even my computer |
[20:20:00] | rben: | Now I've updated things and broken them, of course |
[20:20:00] | rah: | rben: why? |
[20:20:00] | kormoc: | Igg-man, drat :P |
[20:21:00] | Igg-man: | kormoc: What is an m179? |
[20:21:00] | rben: | why did I update them or why did I break them? |
[20:21:00] | kormoc: | Igg-man, a 250 from a different company. |
[20:21:00] | rah: | rben: what was your aim in publishing the article? |
[20:21:00] | Igg-man: | kormoc: You don't like it? |
[20:21:00] | Igg-man: | (them) |
[20:21:00] | rben: | My aim was to help people who were trying to set up similar systems |
[20:21:00] | Igg-man: | so far, I'm not a big fan of the 500 card, I can't get it to do anything :-) |
[20:21:00] | kormoc: | Igg-man, incompatable with the computer I want to put them in, sadly. |
[20:21:00] | Igg-man: | except tgenerate that error message |
[20:21:00] | Beirdo: | rah: leave the guy alone |
[20:21:00] | Beirdo: | sheesh |
[20:22:00] | Igg-man: | oh, that is too bad |
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[20:22:00] | kormoc: | Igg-man, card goes in, computer doesn't boot, card comes out, comptuer boots, put card in second computer, card works fine (*except for the tuner issue) |
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[20:22:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
[20:22:00] | Igg-man: | Tuner issue? |
[20:22:00] | Igg-man: | broken card? |
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[20:22:00] | kormoc: | card worked in other comptuer a week ago |
[20:23:00] | kormoc: | just doesn't like my kernel version or somethin |
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[20:23:00] | Beirdo: | the cards don't like Gentoo? :) |
[20:23:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[20:23:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
[20:23:00] | kormoc: | could be, could be |
[20:23:00] | Igg-man: | hey... |
[20:23:00] | Igg-man: | the computer I am working on is running gentoo |
[20:24:00] | xris: | Beirdo: well, the trac-post-commit stuff chutt and I did went into trac yesterday. |
[20:24:00] | Beirdo: | Igg-man: take a downer, I'm just messing with him :) |
[20:24:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
[20:24:00] | Igg-man: | Beirdo: I did, don't worry about it |
[20:24:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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[20:24:00] | Beirdo: | some people get so bent over little things, after all |
[20:24:00] | Igg-man: | No thoughts on the funny 0x77 error message? |
[20:25:00] | Igg-man: | Nah, I don't care... I've been into linux long enough that I know that some distros are better for some things, and others for others |
[20:25:00] | Igg-man: | and some people prefer one, other people prefer another |
[20:25:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh, good, a user with a brain |
[20:25:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[20:25:00] | Igg-man: | What? Where? |
[20:25:00] | Beirdo: | not sure, maybe search the ivtv mailing lists |
[20:25:00] | Igg-man: | I want to ask him/her a question about ivtv! |
[20:25:00] | rah: | rben: no offense or anything; I'm not trying to put you off helping, but there are better ways to help people than publishing your own article all by itself |
[20:25:00] | Igg-man: | Thats a good place to check |
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[20:26:00] | Beirdo: | rah: stop harassing someone who's trying to help out |
[20:26:00] | rben: | rah, when I first published it, there was no Knoppmythwiki |
[20:26:00] | rah: | rben: there are other myth wikis though, no? |
[20:27:00] | rben: | Okay, I'll come back when I can get some help instead of harassment. |
[20:27:00] | rben: | c u later guys |
[20:27:00] | kormoc: | rah, you're being rather annoying bout this. It's his content, his to do what he pleases with, and just being harassing means there's gonna be one more annoyed person in the world. |
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[20:34:00] | Igg-man: | Beirdo: Well, I checekd the fourm, and someone suggested runing the devel version. I'm trying that now |
[20:34:00] | Beirdo: | cool. Good luck :) |
[20:35:00] | Igg-man: | Thanks |
[20:35:00] | Igg-man: | I hope it works. I see several spots in the fourm that they say to run the dev version instead |
[20:36:00] | Igg-man: | wow... the errors are gone! |
[20:36:00] | jonK: | iggman, what files did you put in /lib/modules? |
[20:36:00] | Igg-man: | I wonder if it'll play video |
[20:36:00] | jonK: | nm |
[20:36:00] | jonK: | sorry was away for a bit |
[20:36:00] | Igg-man: | HcwFalcn.rom HcwMakoA.ROM ivtv-fw-enc.bin |
[20:36:00] | jonK: | do you know how to test if it will play video? |
[20:36:00] | Igg-man: | ivtv-fw-enc.bin is a symlink |
[20:36:00] | jonK: | i don't think you need the first one |
[20:36:00] | jonK: | the other two you do |
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[20:40:00] | jonK: | areyou getting video iggman? |
[20:42:00] | Igg-man: | jonK: YES! Sweet! |
[20:42:00] | Igg-man: | I'm sitting here at the office, watching video at 2 frames per second over vnc :-) |
[20:42:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
[20:42:00] | Igg-man: | and no sound ... but that is to be expected |
[20:42:00] | kormoc: | now, can you get it to change channels? |
[20:43:00] | Igg-man: | Yes, that worked |
[20:43:00] | Igg-man: | Sound is the next test |
[20:43:00] | Igg-man: | I think I might have it record something, then i'll download it and see if it works |
[20:43:00] | kormoc: | you very likly have sound, it's a mpeg2 card |
[20:43:00] | Igg-man: | Good to know |
[20:43:00] | kormoc: | cat /dev/video0 > ~/blah.mpg |
[20:44:00] | kormoc: | crtl-c to end |
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[20:47:00] | jonK: | itt man what distribution |
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[20:47:00] | jonK: | igg man? |
[20:47:00] | Igg-man: | gentoo |
[20:47:00] | kormoc: | a nice choice ;) |
[20:47:00] | Igg-man: | I'm going right for the gold, I'm recording in mythtv, then I'll download via mythweb |
[20:47:00] | jonK: | do you have a sound server running like arts/ |
[20:47:00] | Igg-man: | thanks |
[20:48:00] | kormoc: | jonK, why would that matter for recording off of a mpeg2 card? |
[20:48:00] | Igg-man: | I don't think so, perhaps I do |
[20:48:00] | jonK: | that killed sound for me in Ubunut unil i disabled it |
[20:48:00] | Igg-man: | It had a dumb frame grabber before, but the quality was too poor, so I hope this fixes stuff |
[20:48:00] | jonK: | but that may have been a pvr350 issue |
[20:48:00] | kormoc: | it was a playback issue, no? |
[20:49:00] | kormoc: | the mpeg2 stream from the card contains audio, you can't get video and not audio from the card, or audio and not video.. |
[20:49:00] | Igg-man: | Wait a second... something recorded yesteray |
[20:49:00] | Igg-man: | perhaps it was working just fine... hmm |
[20:49:00] | Igg-man: | ohw ait... I put the card in yesterday, that must have been with the old capture card |
[20:50:00] | jonK: | yes, playback issue |
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[20:51:00] | jonK: | but whether no sound due to playback issue or no sound do to no recording of sound, still, no sound |
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[21:11:00] | rah: | I've got lots of channels in my database |
[21:11:00] | rah: | but more have become available |
[21:11:00] | rah: | can I scan for them without getting the channels that already exist duplicated? |
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[21:29:00] | Igg-man: | jonK: Looks like everything worked well |
[21:29:00] | Igg-man: | I set two shows to record, but I didn't see what happened witht he 2nd one. I'll wait until I'm in front of the box before I try and figure out anything more |
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[21:37:00] | Beirdo: | billvortex?? |
[21:37:00] | ** Beirdo pokes kormoc with a stick ** | |
[21:37:00] | billvortex: | hehe |
[21:37:00] | billvortex: | kormoc's in use, a bill vortex was the name of my one budgie |
[21:38:00] | Beirdo: | you can kick your former self off, you know :) |
[21:38:00] | Igg-man: | Does anyone know how to pronounce Hauppauge? |
[21:38:00] | Beirdo: | assuming you registered the nick |
[21:38:00] | Beirdo: | Igg-man: I'm sure the president of Hauppauge does |
[21:38:00] | billvortex: | ooh, right |
[21:38:00] | jams: | hog pog |
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[21:43:00] | Igg-man: | heh |
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[21:54:00] | hadees: | hey what partion type do you think is best for a 5G live tv buffer and 550G Recordings |
[21:55:00] | Beirdo: | xfs works REAL well for me |
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[21:55:00] | djperegrine: | If I do mplayer /dev/video0 and I get static does that mean *something* is coming into the input and through the tvtuner? |
[21:55:00] | jams: | yep so does jfs |
[21:55:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, for both? i read something about xfs loosing data if it looses power |
[21:55:00] | Beirdo: | never happened to me yet |
[21:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've seen reiser loose data, and blow partitions fi they lost power, but I've never seen xfs do the same |
[21:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | ymmv :) |
[21:56:00] | Beirdo: | djperegrine: you may have the tuner module setup wrong. |
[21:58:00] | djperegrine: | Yes prob, I have a PVR150 MCE |
[21:58:00] | djperegrine: | I just wanted to make sure It could work eventually |
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[22:08:00] | rben: | I have a myth box that I've just set up with 2 tuner cards, one connected to basic cable and the other to the cable box. How do I tell mythtv to use 2 different channel listings and only record some channels from a particular tuner? |
[22:09:00] | rben: | Also, how do I shrink the display so it fits on the screen of the TV |
[22:17:00] | Igg-man: | rben: I think you can assign the channel listing to the tuners individually in the setup program |
[22:21:00] | rben: | ok, have to try that |
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[22:21:00] | rben: | hard to work on the tv screen |
[22:22:00] | rben: | seems like the screen image is too big and is getting cut off |
[22:22:00] | rben: | gonna go try, brb |
[22:23:00] | rben: | reboot |
[22:23:00] | rben: | mt |
[22:23:00] | rben: | is there a way to run the mythtv setup program remotely using a windows box running cygwin? |
[22:25:00] | beavis: | !version |
[22:25:00] | ** Beirdo wonders what beavis is up to ** | |
[22:26:00] | laga: | rben: you'd need an x-server |
[22:26:00] | ** beavis wanted to see if there's a supybot ** | |
[22:26:00] | Beirdo: | there isn't |
[22:26:00] | rben: | hmmm, I should have known that |
[22:26:00] | rben: | I have cygwin-X, but it doesn't seem to work |
[22:26:00] | beavis: | with all the nice features |
[22:26:00] | Beirdo: | !insult beavis |
[22:26:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
[22:27:00] | Beirdo: | see, no bot |
[22:27:00] | rben: | going to go wrestle with tv, brb |
[22:27:00] | laga: | beavis you buttmunch |
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[22:27:00] | laga: | beavis: no bot doesn't mean that we can't insult him manually |
[22:28:00] | beavis: | laga=manual bot, ok |
[22:29:00] | Beirdo: | some dillhole just turned the lights back on |
[22:29:00] | Beirdo: | and back off they go |
[22:31:00] | ** CyberKnet cues the lagabot ** | |
[22:31:00] | CyberKnet: | !trout beavis |
[22:31:00] | ** laga slaps beavis around a bit with a large trout ** | |
[22:31:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[22:31:00] | beavis: | hey the lagabot works |
[22:32:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
[22:32:00] | ** CyberKnet gets an evil grin ** | |
[22:32:00] | ** beavis wants a girl as the chan-bot ** | |
[22:32:00] | CyberKnet: | !kiss Beirdo |
[22:32:00] | CyberKnet: | hehehe |
[22:32:00] | beavis: | -> laga use /nick Monica |
[22:32:00] | ** Beirdo kicks CyberKnet in the nuts ** | |
[22:32:00] | CyberKnet: | hah! |
[22:33:00] | CyberKnet: | beavis: Hmm.. having seen laga ... that's a bit disturbing, actually. |
[22:33:00] | Discipulus: | there any girls in here (yea right)? |
[22:33:00] | laga: | it's just a matter of some lip stick |
[22:33:00] | CyberKnet: | Discipulus: there are a few who visit occasionally. |
[22:34:00] | Discipulus: | CyberKnet, oh, well, my girlfriend is going for a papysmear (ms?) tonight and was wondering what kinda questions the doctor was gonna ask her |
[22:34:00] | beavis: | mythtv is just a man's business |
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[22:34:00] | Beirdo: | Discipulus: I'm sure there are |
[22:34:00] | CyberKnet: | Too bad this room is logged. |
[22:34:00] | CyberKnet: | there are just oh so many things you could reply to that. |
[22:34:00] | beavis: | come on ;) |
[22:35:00] | Discipulus: | heh |
[22:35:00] | Discipulus: | seriously, what kinda questions? |
[22:35:00] | Beirdo: | for instance, CyberKnet here is a mythtv whore |
[22:35:00] | ** CyberKnet kicks Beirdo square in should-be-nuts-there ** | |
[22:35:00] | Beirdo: | hah |
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[22:35:00] | CyberKnet: | what? where's the beans? |
[22:35:00] | rjune: | Discipulus: your doctor is asking your g/f about myth during a pap? |
[22:36:00] | Discipulus: | no |
[22:36:00] | Discipulus: | my g/f's doctor has a pap and it's her first one, wants to know what kinda questions the doctor is gonna ask her |
[22:36:00] | Discipulus: | well |
[22:36:00] | rjune: | so you're asking in here? |
[22:36:00] | Discipulus: | my g/f has a pap |
[22:36:00] | rjune: | WTF? |
[22:36:00] | Discipulus: | I dunno |
[22:36:00] | Beirdo: | gah |
[22:36:00] | Beirdo: | run along... |
[22:36:00] | ** rjune runs ** | |
[22:36:00] | Discipulus: | I figure you guys might know.... |
[22:37:00] | CyberKnet: | Discipulus: I'm sure there are great resources in google about womens health. This is the last bastion of safety where people can feel they will never have to read words like "menstrual flow", "menopause" and "yeast infection" |
[22:37:00] | rjune: | Uhm.... |
[22:37:00] | rjune: | CyberKnet: damn you. |
[22:37:00] | CyberKnet: | rjune: =) |
[22:37:00] | Beirdo: | why the hell would a bunch of geeks know anything about women's health? :) |
[22:37:00] | Discipulus: | lol |
[22:37:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: woman geeks? shit, they don't know anything about women's health either |
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[22:37:00] | Beirdo: | heh, they should |
[22:37:00] | laga: | wtf is a PAP? |
[22:37:00] | Beirdo: | laga: go google |
[22:38:00] | rjune: | laga: google pap smear |
[22:38:00] | mishehu: | go go gadget google |
[22:38:00] | rjune: | heh |
[22:38:00] | Discipulus: | lol |
[22:38:00] | mishehu: | mmmm pap smear on toast. |
[22:38:00] | mishehu: | (I know that sounds all wrong) |
[22:38:00] | laga: | bunch of sickos |
[22:38:00] | CyberKnet: | mishehu: all kinds of wrong. |
[22:38:00] | mishehu: | CyberKnet: thus the reason I said it. |
[22:38:00] | Beirdo: | gah |
[22:38:00] | mishehu: | heh |
[22:38:00] | Beirdo: | you are all horrid |
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[22:38:00] | laga: | mishehu: disgusting |
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[22:39:00] | CyberKnet: | I most certainly am not horrid. |
[22:39:00] | mishehu: | remember what Maude Lebowsky said in "The Big Lebowsky" |
[22:39:00] | mishehu: | about the word "vagina" |
[22:39:00] | CyberKnet: | mishehu: I try to forget that I ever watched that 90 minute eye gouging horrific excuse for a movie. |
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[22:39:00] | Beirdo: | la la la LA... not listening.... |
[22:39:00] | mishehu: | CyberKnet: it beats the hell out of anything that's come up thus far this year. |
[22:39:00] | mishehu: | yes, even ROTS |
[22:40:00] | Beirdo: | blah |
[22:40:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: vagina! |
[22:40:00] | rjune: | mirak: it's fun to say? |
[22:40:00] | Beirdo: | not right now, thanks, mishehu. I'm at work |
[22:40:00] | rjune: | dammit mishehu ^ |
[22:40:00] | mishehu: | rjune: when you get your fair share of it, yes. |
[22:41:00] | rjune: | I'm married, I don't get any |
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[22:41:00] | mishehu: | that's what concubines are for. |
[22:41:00] | mishehu: | It's good to be king |
[22:41:00] | Beirdo: | if only for a day |
[22:42:00] | mishehu: | no no no, think Mel Brooks |
[22:42:00] | Beirdo: | screw that |
[22:42:00] | Beirdo: | think King Solomon |
[22:42:00] | rjune: | we all jump the queen |
[22:42:00] | Beirdo: | 300 wives, 700 concubines... |
[22:43:00] | CyberKnet: | no no no |
[22:43:00] | Beirdo: | I think those were the numbers |
[22:43:00] | CyberKnet: | I do not want more than one wife |
[22:43:00] | CyberKnet: | and I do not want any thing else on the side |
[22:43:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[22:43:00] | Beirdo: | I hear ya |
[22:43:00] | CyberKnet: | it's hard enough keeping up with ONE woman. |
[22:43:00] | CyberKnet: | with 300 to gang up on me ... geez |
[22:43:00] | CyberKnet: | no thanks. |
[22:43:00] | Beirdo: | but you aren't king |
[22:43:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: yeah, but nobody can beat shlomo |
[22:43:00] | mishehu: | so I wasn't going to try. |
[22:44:00] | mishehu: | shlomo == the real way to pronounce the name "solomon" |
[22:44:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[22:45:00] | rjune: | CyberKnet: imagine them all at once though. |
[22:45:00] | CyberKnet: | mishehu: are you observing, or just of the heritage? |
[22:45:00] | rjune: | Hoo boy |
[22:45:00] | CyberKnet: | rjune: doing what? If I've already got one bouncing up and down on my middle, what else could possibly make that any better for me? |
[22:45:00] | ** Beirdo wants to sleep ** | |
[22:45:00] | Beirdo: | too bad.. |
[22:45:00] | rjune: | CyberKnet: bouncing up and down on your face. |
[22:45:00] | rjune: | cleaning |
[22:45:00] | rjune: | cooking |
[22:45:00] | CyberKnet: | rjune: not going to do anything to better the situation for me. |
[22:45:00] | Beirdo: | heh. jeez |
[22:45:00] | laga: | *cough* |
[22:45:00] | CyberKnet: | well cooking and cleaning I can get a maid for. |
[22:46:00] | Beirdo: | your wives will love reading the logs |
[22:46:00] | rjune: | cheaper than a wife |
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[22:46:00] | ** kormoc blinks. ** | |
[22:46:00] | mishehu: | CyberKnet: well, being that my nick is hebrew... |
[22:46:00] | ** CyberKnet blinks ** | |
[22:46:00] | CyberKnet: | mishehu: I understand that you are of the heritage, was just curious if you were observing, or not. |
[22:47:00] | Beirdo: | I need to take more pictures |
[22:47:00] | Beirdo: | but I don't wanna be out in the heat right now |
[22:48:00] | mishehu: | CyberKnet: "observant" is a weighted term. I am secular as I do not define myself as any particular stream. |
[22:48:00] | mishehu: | let's say you won't get any shrimp or pork in my mouth unless by gunpoint. |
[22:48:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
[22:48:00] | CyberKnet: | mishehu: so that would make you of jewish descent, but not of the jewish faith, or/ |
[22:48:00] | CyberKnet: | ? |
[22:49:00] | ** Beirdo likes both shrimp and pork.. good thing he's not Jewish, I guess. ** | |
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[22:49:00] | rjune: | mishehu: how about lobster |
[22:49:00] | rben: | It looks like the frame buffer going to my tv is misaligned by just a bit, is there a way to shift it over? |
[22:50:00] | mishehu: | rjune: lobster is the cockroach of the sea... |
[22:50:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[22:50:00] | mishehu: | CyberKnet: of the faith, but not of a particular stream of the faith. |
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[22:50:00] | mishehu: | more or less conservative I guess. |
[22:50:00] | CyberKnet: | mishehu: nice =) |
[22:50:00] | mishehu: | that's the closest fitting description. |
[22:50:00] | Beirdo: | it's good to have people who follow their faith, whatever it might be. |
[22:51:00] | CyberKnet: | The faithful are ever vigilent. |
[22:51:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: unless that faith teaches that you should kill and murder... |
[22:51:00] | mishehu: | those are usually bad faiths. |
[22:51:00] | Beirdo: | mishehu: OK, good point :) |
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[22:51:00] | CyberKnet: | faith ... extreme right ... it's all the same =P" |
[22:51:00] | CyberKnet: | *grin* |
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[22:52:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: quick transit |
[22:52:00] | mishehu: | CyberKnet: thank you, mr. communism. |
[22:52:00] | ** Beirdo slaps CyberKnet with a *insert holy book here* ** | |
[22:52:00] | CyberKnet: | mishehu: it was a joke =) |
[22:52:00] | ** kormoc blinks at CyberKnet ** | |
[22:52:00] | CyberKnet: | it could just as easily be "extreme left" =) |
[22:52:00] | kormoc: | eh? |
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[22:52:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: actually, do you want to desecrate *insert holy book here* ? |
[22:52:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
[22:52:00] | xris: | stupid firewalls |
[22:52:00] | GeckoFiend: | mishehu you insensitve clod |
[22:52:00] | Beirdo: | good point... |
[22:53:00] | mishehu: | GeckoFiend: how am I the insensitive clod? |
[22:53:00] | CyberKnet: | <-- kormoc has quit ("Done with work, yay!") |
[22:53:00] | ** Beirdo slaps CyberKnet with a box that a holy book was once near ** | |
[22:53:00] | Beirdo: | there, that's better |
[22:53:00] | CyberKnet: | bloody hell. |
[22:53:00] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, firewall going up and down and all around, decided to quit and wait for it to be normal |
[22:53:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: heh |
[22:53:00] | GeckoFiend: | my maim & murder faith is just as valid as your touchy feely hippy faith! |
[22:53:00] | mishehu: | hmmm... I should be reloading my server... |
[22:53:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: looked like you were going home for the day. |
[22:54:00] | kormoc: | hehe, I wish, it's a lovely day out |
[22:54:00] | Beirdo: | at 1:53 |
[22:54:00] | mishehu: | with slamd64 |
[22:54:00] | Beirdo: | lucky bum |
[22:54:00] | mishehu: | since it's an em64t. |
[22:54:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: I held back the "What the hell!! comes in late, goes home early!" comment I had in mind =P" |
[22:54:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
[22:54:00] | Beirdo: | and don't forget the 3h lunch |
[22:55:00] | CyberKnet: | oh yes, indeed! |
[22:55:00] | ** Beirdo slaps ARSperl with a large codfish ** | |
[22:56:00] | Beirdo: | stupid crappy library took me all day to get compiled |
[22:56:00] | Beirdo: | in the end I gave up and tried an older version. |
[22:56:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[22:57:00] | Beirdo: | supportrev.c: In function `rev_ARAssignFieldStruct_helper': |
[22:57:00] | Beirdo: | supportrev.c:1582: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size |
[22:57:00] | Beirdo: | oh, that will be joyous |
[23:00:00] | CyberKnet: | heheheh |
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[23:05:00] | abarbaccia: | hello all – how are things? |
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[23:19:00] | Beirdo: | ah, screw this, I'm going home |
[23:20:00] | beavis: | I'm going to bed |
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[23:29:00] | Maveric: | how is everyone? |
[23:29:00] | hadees: | Maveric, can't complain |
[23:29:00] | beavis: | it's ok |
[23:29:00] | hadees: | really i can't, they are watching me |
[23:30:00] | beavis: | who? |
[23:30:00] | hadees: | exactly |
[23:30:00] | beavis: | THEY!?? |
[23:30:00] | Maveric: | well i got a question |
[23:30:00] | beavis: | OMG |
[23:30:00] | hadees: | Maveric, Pi is 3.14 |
[23:30:00] | hadees: | or rather 3.14159265 |
[23:30:00] | Maveric: | that wasn't the question :P |
[23:31:00] | beavis: | heh |
[23:31:00] | Maveric: | i have mythtv up with a pvr-500 and livetv and everything is fine |
[23:31:00] | Maveric: | however when i scedule records |
[23:31:00] | Maveric: | the playbacks |
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[23:43:00] | djperegrine: | netsplit :> |
[23:45:00] | Riff-Raff: | does the hauppauge's dual-tuner card have svideo-input? |
[23:46:00] | Maveric: | yes |
[23:46:00] | Maveric: | wait |
[23:46:00] | Riff-Raff: | does it have two? |
[23:46:00] | Maveric: | not sure about s-video input |
[23:46:00] | Maveric: | i'll have to go home and look |
[23:46:00] | Maveric: | i blieve it does |
[23:46:00] | Maveric: | you just have to order a addon |
[23:46:00] | Maveric: | for the card for the second |
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[23:47:00] | Riff-Raff: | sorry? |
[23:47:00] | Maveric: | http://www.hauppauge.com/Pages/products/data_pvr500mce.html |
[23:47:00] | Maveric: | go there Riff-Raff |
[23:47:00] | Maveric: | it has one already on the card |
[23:47:00] | Maveric: | and 2 more headers |
[23:48:00] | Maveric: | so you can have 3 s-video i think |
[23:48:00] | Maveric: | but you have to order addons to connect to the headers |
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[23:50:00] | Riff-Raff: | ok, thanks |
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[23:52:00] | Maveric: | hey hadees GeckoFiend abarbaccia |
[23:52:00] | Maveric: | i turned off auto comm flag |
[23:53:00] | Maveric: | it records but it still doesn't look right |
[23:53:00] | Maveric: | like rolling and etc |
[23:53:00] | Maveric: | some color confetti |
[23:55:00] | Riff-Raff: | maveric, do you know of another place selling those cables than hauppauge's webstore?? |
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[23:55:00] | Maveric: | yeah Ri |
[23:56:00] | Maveric: | http://www.pcalchemy.com/product_info.php/pNa . . . and-adapters |
[23:57:00] | GeckoFiend: | Maveric di you check your recording prfoiles like I told you to in the very begining? |
[23:57:00] | Maveric: | haven't had a way to look |
[23:58:00] | Maveric: | i dunno any other way to look at them except on a frontend |
[23:58:00] | Maveric: | i'm remotely doing this |
[23:58:00] | Maveric: | and downloading clips of the tv |
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