| Tuesday, July 5th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
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| [00:01:00] | xris: | Igg-man: figured it would. |
| [00:02:00] | Igg-man: | xris: can the mythtv backend be configrued to transcode from .nuv to .mpeg4 or something? |
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| [00:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hi xris |
| [00:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, I killed every last damn slug in my yard |
| [00:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it looked like wankoff land though with all the slime from the dead slugs lol |
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| [00:07:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: that's rather sick. |
| [00:07:00] | xris: | iggy: what kind of capture card do you have? |
| [00:07:00] | xris: | wait, and then he left. |
| [00:07:00] | xris: | iggy: sorry, wrong tab-complete. |
| [00:07:00] | iggy: | xris: 2x150mce 1x350 2xsaa7135 |
| [00:08:00] | iggy: | fine |
| [00:08:00] | xris: | meant igg-man, but he left. |
| [00:08:00] | iggy: | I didn't want to talk to you anyways |
| [00:08:00] | xris: | lol |
| [00:08:00] | xris: | well, at least you have good taste in cards. ;) |
| [00:10:00] | xris: | soo many commercials to cut out. |
| [00:10:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
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| [00:10:00] | Beirdo: | don't get me started... |
| [00:10:00] | iggy: | what? commercials or my choice of cards? |
| [00:10:00] | Beirdo: | on commercials |
| [00:11:00] | iggy: | yeah, they suck |
| [00:11:00] | Beirdo: | I have 84 programs on my machine |
| [00:11:00] | Beirdo: | heh, damn |
| [00:11:00] | xris: | iggy: separate train of thought. |
| [00:11:00] | Beirdo: | 23 Andromeda!?! |
| [00:11:00] | Beirdo: | WTF |
| [00:11:00] | xris: | like this one: being married to a pastry chef rocks. |
| [00:11:00] | Beirdo: | they must have played every episode back to back |
| [00:11:00] | iggy: | 107 programs, using 402 GB (91 hrs) out of 569 GB. |
| [00:11:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, but do you watch TV much lately? |
| [00:12:00] | Beirdo: | I sure don't |
| [00:12:00] | iggy: | not much at all, mostly because I'm too lazy to setup my other computer, so I'm always using the mythtv box/server as my main workstation |
| [00:13:00] | smoke_: | my mythgallery is having issues with the preview image.. am i missing something? |
| [00:13:00] | Beirdo: | time to mass delete some Andromeda |
| [00:13:00] | Beirdo: | screw it |
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| [00:13:00] | Kronuz: | hello |
| [00:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, yeah but my flowers are living now due to now slugs |
| [00:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it was nasty cleaning my yard up |
| [00:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but that stuff you told me about worked great |
| [00:14:00] | Kronuz: | hey, whi has had experience setting up a PVR350 to work with the TV tuner? ('cause I can only make it work for S-Video/Composite inputs, my tuner is always showing non-tuned noise) |
| [00:14:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: slugs will come back, but that Worry Free stuff works great to prevent it. |
| [00:15:00] | xris: | sprinkle a little around every couple of weeks. |
| [00:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, yeah I got to apply it like once every 4 weeks |
| [00:15:00] | xris: | haven't had a problem since I did that. |
| [00:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | they were killing my flowers and I put down nearly 200$ worth of flowers I was pissed |
| [00:15:00] | Kronuz: | is there a way you know I can test the tuner input directly from ivtv? |
| [00:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Kronuz, you more than likely dont have the imput set right |
| [00:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or did you set the imput? |
| [00:16:00] | Kronuz: | SlicerDicer: using myth-setup, I set it to channel 3 |
| [00:16:00] | Kronuz: | (as from where the signal is comming from my decoder box) |
| [00:16:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: that sucks.. worst I lost was a few pepper plants and herbs. |
| [00:16:00] | Beirdo: | there. |
| [00:16:00] | Beirdo: | 61 programs now |
| [00:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well you would more than likely want to put svideo with that Kronuz |
| [00:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then get a rs232 and control the cablebox that way |
| [00:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its really simple if you have comcast |
| [00:17:00] | poonj: | do you guys have amplifiers for your cable input before splitting them for multiple tv tuners? |
| [00:18:00] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [00:18:00] | poonj: | did you buy a high end one beirdo? |
| [00:18:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [00:18:00] | ** xris is happily rid of cable. ;) ** | |
| [00:18:00] | Beirdo: | heheeh, I have a south park... douche and turd |
| [00:18:00] | Beirdo: | where they were bashing Bush and Kerry (indirectly) |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | oh, xris... |
| [00:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, why? |
| [00:19:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: Vote or die, bitch! |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | watched the Daily Show with Howard Dean on it. the Democrats really fucked up |
| [00:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, the comcast digital cable rocks with mythv |
| [00:19:00] | Kronuz: | SlicerDicer: that's how I had it, but for some reason I'm having two problems on that scenario: first the PVR350 is giving me a shadow, and second... I'm getting too much noise on the audio... a constant buzzing, bee-like sound |
| [00:19:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: and costs twice as much as my Dish setup. |
| [00:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, ahh I cant have a dish here |
| [00:20:00] | smoke_: | is anyone having issues with mythgallery and it not displaying the preview images? |
| [00:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, and cable is cheaper for me than dish for some reason... |
| [00:20:00] | Kronuz: | SlicerDicer: I was hoping using the tuner would fix at least the noise in the audio, 'cause if I disconnect the RCA cables, the noise is gone |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | sounds like ground loop issues |
| [00:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I would bet the noise is caused by something else but I dont know for sure |
| [00:21:00] | Kronuz: | Beirdo: ground loop? |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | *ground loop* |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | is your PVR machine grounded to the same plug as the cable box? |
| [00:22:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: then you're lucky. I pay a little under $50 for 180 Dish channels. analog cable here is $50–52 after taxes, digital is $70+ after tax for the basic setup. |
| [00:22:00] | Kronuz: | I thought it has something to do with bad grounding, but I tried to fixed it... |
| [00:22:00] | Kronuz: | hmm... Beirdo: yes |
| [00:22:00] | Beirdo: | hmm, that's the usual cause. |
| [00:22:00] | Beirdo: | not sure then |
| [00:23:00] | Kronuz: | Beirdo: they both should have a common ground, right? |
| [00:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, I have every channel so its not any cheaper |
| [00:23:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [00:23:00] | Kronuz: | (is that's what usually fixes the issue?) |
| [00:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the premium and what not xris all that |
| [00:23:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: ahh, yeah, I don't do premium stuff, so didn't bother to compare at that point. |
| [00:23:00] | Kronuz: | but, mine have the same ground... it's really weird :( |
| [00:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, its the same cost really with premium cable or sat |
| [00:24:00] | Kronuz: | I almost could bet the shadow on the video is part of the same problem |
| [00:25:00] | Kronuz: | Beirdo: did you mean the phisical ground, right? |
| [00:25:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: could be. |
| [00:25:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [00:26:00] | Kronuz: | Beirdo: yeah, then they both are :( |
| [00:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, I also have 4 cableboxes hehe |
| [00:26:00] | Kronuz: | for the tuner you don't need some extra module, that I might be missing loading? |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | so you have other cables you can try? |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | might just be crappy grounds in the cables |
| [00:26:00] | Kronuz: | Beirdo: I have tried different cables :( |
| [00:27:00] | Kronuz: | there's always something really weird about these noises... |
| [00:27:00] | Kronuz: | some times they're there, some times they aren't |
| [00:28:00] | Kronuz: | for instance when I was testing the computer out of the case (a few weeks back) it didn't seem to have that noise (the shadow on the video was there tho') |
| [00:29:00] | smoke_: | what do i press to start ripping the dvd in dvd import? |
| [00:29:00] | Kronuz: | (and the shadow is only there on the capture, not on the output to the TV, nor on the signal out of my decoder) |
| [00:29:00] | xris: | gotta love this: nuvexport --require_cutlist --mode=xvid --title . --confirm |
| [00:30:00] | xris: | ok, off to do family stuff... later. |
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| [00:31:00] | Kronuz: | how can you tell if the ivtv is ready for tuning? |
| [00:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | check dmesg |
| [00:32:00] | smoke_: | i dont get it... |
| [00:32:00] | iggy: | if you get static from /dev/videoN |
| [00:32:00] | smoke_: | there is no button to start the ripping in mythdvd import... am i that retarded? |
| [00:32:00] | Mersault: | so, what should I do if I've found a bug in mythgame? I can make it seg fault by feeding it a rom with a filename containing invalid unicode |
| [00:32:00] | iggy: | file a bug |
| [00:33:00] | Kronuz: | iggy: just that? 'cause I'm getting the static fine... I have only one singla comming through channel 3 (but all I can see is static) |
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| [00:33:00] | Mersault: | gee, really? I was hoping for some idea of what information to include... |
| [00:33:00] | Kronuz: | (which tells me either I'm missing something or the card isn't tunning on channel 3) |
| [00:34:00] | Kronuz: | s/singla/signal/g |
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| [00:37:00] | Kronuz: | what's that "tuner=47" I've been seeing everywhere? |
| [00:37:00] | Mersault: | and what severity is a seg fault situation? major, critical, or blocker? |
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| [00:42:00] | Kronuz: | Beirdo: thanks for the "ground loop" tip, I'm reading more about that right now :) |
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| [00:42:00] | Beirdo: | it's black magic, somewhat |
| [00:42:00] | Beirdo: | but that would be my first suspicion |
| [00:43:00] | Kronuz: | "When two or more devices are connected to a common ground through different paths, a ground loop occurs" |
| [00:43:00] | Kronuz: | http://www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/ |
| [00:43:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [00:43:00] | Beirdo: | the resistance of the cabling between and stuff is what makes the difference |
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| [00:44:00] | Kronuz: | lol |
| [00:44:00] | Kronuz: | "Usually ground loops are an after-the-fact type of problem in which the end-user blames the installer, the installer blames the manufacturer..." |
| [00:45:00] | Kronuz: | ROTFL |
| [00:45:00] | Kronuz: | MythTV is to blame |
| [00:45:00] | Kronuz: | ;) |
| [00:45:00] | smoke_: | hey ayone here using mythdvd? |
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| [00:51:00] | Mersault: | What is everyone here using for remotes? I'm looking to get some wireless gamepads as well as a remote, and it would be great if it was all through one system. especially if it also included keyboard and mouse as well |
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| [00:58:00] | Kronuz: | hey, does anyone use the SNES-USB adapter with zsnes on MythTV? does it work? can it be configured to work? ('cause I'm thinking of buying one of those adapters) |
| [00:59:00] | Mersault: | I'm more interested in getting some wireless gamepads that are similar to the PS2 gamepads. |
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| [01:00:00] | smoke_: | exit |
| [01:00:00] | Kronuz: | I loved the SNES gamepads :P |
| [01:00:00] | mortal5: | hi all, I'm trying to do some video editing using mjpegtools, lavplay says: [lavplay] Error playing a frameNorm: NTSC, Diff: 0.0 |
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| [01:05:00] | mortal5: | maybe i should ask a better question, what form of mpg does my pvr 250 put out? |
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| [01:05:00] | mortal5: | mpg2 |
| [01:05:00] | mortal5: | ? |
| [01:06:00] | GeckoFiend: | yes |
| [01:06:00] | Kronuz: | GeckoFiend!! :) |
| [01:07:00] | Kronuz: | how are you? :) |
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| [01:10:00] | mortal5: | I'm trying to edit some video i captured using my pvr 250 |
| [01:11:00] | mortal5: | just some basic croping, cut /paste stuff |
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| [01:18:00] | GeckoFiend: | Kronuz not too bad |
| [01:18:00] | swim: | yello |
| [01:18:00] | GeckoFiend: | swim to answer your question... dump it |
| [01:19:00] | swim: | GeckoFiend, the card? |
| [01:19:00] | GeckoFiend: | yeah |
| [01:19:00] | swim: | Ill just give it to my parents then :) |
| [01:19:00] | GeckoFiend: | just grab cheap geforce 4 and save the hastle |
| [01:20:00] | swim: | absolutley, Ive had enough hastle figuring out the pvr150 so Ill spend some money :) I actually was just going to get a 128mb nvidia something or other |
| [01:21:00] | swim: | there was something I was looking at on newegg |
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| [01:23:00] | rw: | //msg swim swimmer? |
| [01:24:00] | swim: | actually not so much :) I like to swim but not a swimmer |
| [01:24:00] | smoke_: | anyone here using mythdvd? |
| [01:25:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [01:26:00] | Agrajag-: | smoke_ can you not pvmsg me just talk here |
| [01:26:00] | smoke_: | ok |
| [01:26:00] | Agrajag-: | and i dont use it to rip dvds so i dunno |
| [01:27:00] | swim: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127181 hows this card look in it's stead GeckoFiend ? |
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| [01:27:00] | TimmyJ: | anyone here know of a good program I can use to watch liveTV/change channels thats more suited towards watching TV while doing other things (features like resizing etc.) that will work w/ my pvr-150 ivtv drivers |
| [01:28:00] | Agrajag-: | tvtime? xawtv? |
| [01:29:00] | TimmyJ: | i looked at tvtime ans xawtv...I don't think either work w/ ivtv, and therefore not w/ my pvr-150 :( |
| [01:29:00] | TimmyJ: | but those are exactly what i'm looking for |
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| [01:29:00] | iggy: | recent versions of xawtv should |
| [01:29:00] | iggy: | so I hear anyways |
| [01:30:00] | iggy: | never actually gotten it work myself |
| [01:30:00] | TimmyJ: | hrmmm |
| [01:30:00] | TimmyJ: | I'll have to check it out |
| [01:32:00] | smoke_: | hey im having problems with the dvd import, anyone have trouble ripping hte dvd ? |
| [01:32:00] | smoke_: | is there a howto webnsite i could get to? |
| [01:35:00] | Kronuz: | Beirdo: I started connecting the phisical grounds together and once I connected the decoder's to the computer I started hearing what it sounded like the hard disk activity on my TV :P |
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| [01:39:00] | Kronuz: | "methods to eliminate hum often seem more like voo-doo than engineering and, more often than not, are trial and error exercises that end only when someone says <<I can live with that>>" |
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| [01:51:00] | TimmyJ: | does anyone know if zapping will work with my pvr-150 ivtv drivers |
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| [01:51:00] | smoke_: | hey im having problems with the dvd import, anyone have trouble ripping hte dvd ? |
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| [02:13:00] | Kronuz: | what do you need to configure to be able to see what the coaxial input (tuner) in my PVR350 is showing in channel 3? |
| [02:14:00] | Kronuz: | I configured the input in myth-setup and I got to see the TV static in the live-TV, but it seems it's not tuning to channel 3 |
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| [02:18:00] | Kronuz: | on the mythtv-setup I selected preset tuner to channel 3 and channel 3 in the input card (Tuner0) |
| [02:19:00] | Kronuz: | and on the channels I added a channel number 3 with a "Frequency ID = 3" |
| [02:19:00] | Kronuz: | what's that freq. ID? |
| [02:19:00] | Kronuz: | ('cause I think that might be the problem) |
| [02:22:00] | Kronuz: | has anyone else experienced ghost effects in the PVR-350/250 capture card? |
| [02:22:00] | Kronuz: | I'm using S-Video, but I get up to four parallel ghost images |
| [02:23:00] | Kronuz: | (that's the main reason I want to try coaxial input... to see if the ghosts go away) |
| [02:26:00] | Kronuz: | hmm.. I'm trying composite |
| [02:27:00] | Kronuz: | someone in a forum said: "I've often found that ghosting effect and over-saturation in video signals is due to the signal being too strong." |
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| [02:28:00] | DarthDam: | When setting channels, what kind of information should i enter into the "Frequency ID" field? |
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| [02:29:00] | TimmyJ: | anyone know if the gnome tv viewer "zapping" can import channels from zap2it like myth can? |
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| [02:33:00] | Kronuz: | DarthDam: who knows :P I've been asking the same question all day... |
| [02:34:00] | DarthDam: | Kronuz, hm. So there's no help here for such a simple question, that even the docs and google fails short to answer :/ |
| [02:34:00] | Kronuz: | :( |
| [02:35:00] | Kronuz: | hey DarthDam, do you by any chance use a PVR350 or 250? |
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| [02:37:00] | DarthDam: | Got a pvr 350 today. hm That was yesterday |
| [02:38:00] | Kronuz: | or does anyone know what S-Video -> Composite converter does the card use? (can't remember if it came with one in the box) |
| [02:38:00] | Kronuz: | DarthDam: cool :) |
| [02:38:00] | Kronuz: | hey, does it come with a S-Video to Composite converter? |
| [02:38:00] | DarthDam: | There is such a device on my box |
| [02:39:00] | Kronuz: | 'cause I can't remember if it did, and I have a bunch of them |
| [02:39:00] | Kronuz: | how does it look like? |
| [02:39:00] | DarthDam: | 5cm long, 1.5cm diameter, off-white |
| [02:39:00] | Kronuz: | does it have a cable on it? |
| [02:40:00] | Kronuz: | (a small one) |
| [02:40:00] | DarthDam: | Nope. The two connectores are molded in a plastic housing, as a single device |
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| [02:41:00] | Kronuz: | oh, okay :) |
| [02:41:00] | Kronuz: | 'cause the one I'm using isn't giving me anything |
| [02:41:00] | Kronuz: | (a small one) |
| [02:41:00] | Kronuz: | [19:40] <D |
| [02:42:00] | Kronuz: | thanks DarthDam, I'll try with that one :) |
| [02:42:00] | TimmyJ: | anyone know if there is a channel for xawtv? |
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| [02:50:00] | Kronuz: | has anyone else ever heard of "signal attenuators" for S-Video before? |
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| [02:54:00] | mortal5: | does anyone here have a pvr 250? |
| [02:55:00] | mortal5: | I'm trying to set the bitrate using ivtvctl -c bitrate=2200, but that doesn't work |
| [02:55:00] | mortal5: | bad syntax |
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| [03:03:00] | mchou: | ivtvctl -c bitrate=2200000 |
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| [03:22:00] | mortal5: | hey all, does anyone have a pvr 250? |
| [03:23:00] | mortal5: | I was wondering if it would be possibel to do realtime encoding to another format besides mpg |
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| [03:34:00] | smoke_: | anyone here got the dvd importing feature to work? |
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| [03:37:00] | CanadaBoy: | damit i forget how im launching mythtb when my box restarts |
| [03:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | mortal: no, it's mpeg 1/2 only |
| [03:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | doh, didn't notice he was gone :) |
| [03:38:00] | CanadaBoy: | darn! |
| [03:39:00] | CanadaBoy: | what file would my call to execute mythfrontend & be in? |
| [03:41:00] | CanadaBoy: | found it |
| [03:42:00] | CanadaBoy: | lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 21 Sep 26 2004 mythfrontend -> /usr/bin/mythfrontend |
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| [03:42:00] | CanadaBoy: | thats a symbolic link no? |
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| [03:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes it is |
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| [04:10:00] | smoke_: | anyone here use the dvd import? |
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| [04:42:00] | simprix: | I have changed my datadirect lineup how can i clear the data for the old lineup for mythtv |
| [04:43:00] | Chutt: | run the setup program. |
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| [04:53:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [04:54:00] | Chutt: | so, how does one figure out where kde has its headers installed? kdevelop is the only package i can see that even includes an autoconf script, but that's a complete extra package and may not even be installed |
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| [05:12:00] | rjune: | Composite video out means an RCA jack right? |
| [05:13:00] | Chutt: | generally |
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| [05:15:00] | rjune: | cool, wanted to verify |
| [05:15:00] | rjune: | http://www.pepper.com/products/pepper.html <-- thought that looked pretty slick |
| [05:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | Too bad it's $850 |
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| [05:18:00] | rjune: | yeah I know |
| [05:18:00] | rjune: | it could stand to be a bit less expensive |
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| [05:46:00] | sphing: | anyone here good at geometry? |
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| [06:03:00] | smoke_: | anyone here using the dvd import feature? |
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| [06:07:00] | Atamido: | Happy 4th of July! |
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| [06:47:00] | akaais: | having a slight problem. i got my mythbox working earlier. i shutdown to install a tv outy capable video card, installed the drivers, edited xorg.conf. then i went to get my firefly remote working. |
| [06:48:00] | akaais: | now when i try to run mythfrontend, mythsetup, mythtv-setup after either prescaling the images (frontend) or asking if i wasnt to clear channel/card data, my system locks |
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| [06:48:00] | akaais: | how can i fix this? |
| [06:49:00] | Agrajag-: | are you sure it locks? |
| [06:49:00] | Agrajag-: | mine waits around for a bit |
| [06:49:00] | Agrajag-: | but doesn't lock.. does stuff eventually |
| [06:51:00] | akaais: | well i cant alt-tab to other stuff, and if i try the numlock key, the light doesnt change |
| [06:51:00] | akaais: | how long should i wait? beofre was instant. |
| [06:57:00] | smoke_: | anyone here using the dvd import feature? |
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| [06:58:00] | akaais: | definately locks |
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| [07:34:00] | rabies: | hey |
| [07:34:00] | rabies: | there any big differences between freevo and mythtv? |
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| [07:55:00] | kusznir: | hello: I have a basic user question. I was using Myth with a full keyboard, and accidentially dropped the keyboard, hitting multiple keys in the process. Now its not responding to some commands, and others are having wierd effects. |
| [07:55:00] | kusznir: | Its as if one of the keys I hit changed Myth's command set. |
| [07:55:00] | kusznir: | And I can't figure out what key it was that did this. |
| [07:56:00] | kusznir: | Right now, for example, I can't pause anymore. The "p" key has no effect. Neither does the "m" key. |
| [07:57:00] | kusznir: | err...the P key does have an effect; now it trys to change audio track. |
| [07:57:00] | kusznir: | Anyone have any suggestions? |
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| [08:14:00] | Agrajag-: | you broke your keyboard? |
| [08:14:00] | kusznir: | nope, keyboard works fine. Myth just seems to change its command set |
| [08:15:00] | Agrajag-: | well unless you changed it from mythweb or in the db, it doesn't automatically redefine keys (afaik, mythfrontend wont change them until you restart it anyway) |
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| [08:18:00] | smoke_: | anyone here using the dvd import feature? |
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| [08:49:00] | rabies: | hi |
| [08:49:00] | rabies: | so many listings... |
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| [08:51:00] | rabies: | hi |
| [08:51:00] | rabies: | im waiting for that day when mythtv will finally have filled the database |
| [08:51:00] | rabies: | what a day it'll be :) |
| [08:52:00] | Dibblah: | Which grabber? |
| [08:53:00] | rabies: | tv_grab_na_dd |
| [08:53:00] | rabies: | though its using wget, which is odd |
| [08:53:00] | rabies: | must be a mythtv thing |
| [08:53:00] | rabies: | its the US one |
| [08:53:00] | Dibblah: | Why are you not using the internal dd grabber? |
| [08:53:00] | rabies: | it is using the internal one |
| [08:54:00] | Atamido: | I have had some weird stuff happen when accidentaly hitting keys in Myth. |
| [08:54:00] | rabies: | go figure... |
| [08:55:00] | rabies: | :) |
| [08:55:00] | Dibblah: | How long has it taken so far? |
| [08:55:00] | rabies: | bout 20 minutes |
| [08:56:00] | rabies: | on its 8th wget |
| [08:56:00] | Dibblah: | Is that all? tv_grab_uk_rt used to take 4 hours or so, before I fixed it. |
| [08:56:00] | rabies: | fixed it? |
| [08:56:00] | Dibblah: | It was grabbing all data 7 times. |
| [08:56:00] | Dibblah: | ... 14 times, even. |
| [08:56:00] | rabies: | you sure it wasnt 14 days? |
| [08:57:00] | Dibblah: | Yup. |
| [08:57:00] | rabies: | arg |
| [08:57:00] | rabies: | i dont have 4 hours |
| [08:57:00] | rabies: | well they are different file sizes |
| [08:58:00] | rabies: | wow, this is boring |
| [08:58:00] | rabies: | im using a really fast proc, so maybe that'll help |
| [08:58:00] | rabies: | cool, its done |
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| [09:00:00] | Dibblah: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . g%22;#105224 |
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| [09:04:00] | rabies: | cool |
| [09:04:00] | rabies: | sleepy time |
| [09:04:00] | rabies: | gnight |
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| [09:09:00] | somedude^: | hello |
| [09:09:00] | somedude^: | ... |
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| [09:53:00] | ninti: | Fascinating, the Hauppauge 350 and 500 indeed appear to not like each other |
| [09:54:00] | ninti: | This IRC channel paid off, and I didn't even have to ask a question :) |
| [09:59:00] | ** ninti bookmarks the chat log page, and tips his hat to GreyFoxx ** | |
| [10:07:00] | james_: | anyone here know where the firmware files go once you have extracted em? |
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| [10:11:00] | james_: | i got the ivtv-fw-enc.bin and ivtv-fw-dec.bin files but I have no idea where i am supposed to put thene |
| [10:11:00] | james_: | err them |
| [10:12:00] | stoffel: | see http://ivtv.sourceforge.net/ |
| [10:13:00] | stoffel: | put them in /lib/modules |
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| [10:27:00] | iluciv: | I need to update the examples for dvb-utils for brisbane australia |
| [10:27:00] | iluciv: | possible |
| [10:27:00] | iluciv: | ? |
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| [13:24:00] | mrkookz12: | hi there. Reasonably new to Linux. I've installed Fedora Core 4 and followed Jarod's Guide to install Mythtv, but just can't get the tv tuner (DVB-T) to display anything in Mythtv, Xine or xawtv |
| [13:24:00] | mrkookz12: | any pointers |
| [13:26:00] | mrkookz12: | it's unclear to me where to put the channel frequencies |
| [13:26:00] | mrkookz12: | and I haven't been able to find anywhere to "scan" for channels. |
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| [15:50:00] | roam: | Would it make sense to use an 400 MHz K6-III as a backend master server or is it too slow? |
| [15:51:00] | Tommck_: | roam – I'd say you might be pushing it |
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| [16:03:00] | didj: | is there working support for DVB closed captions in the 0.18.1 release ? |
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| [16:35:00] | roam: | Tommck_: I would just use it as a backend. |
| [16:35:00] | roam: | Tommck_: and it would use DVB-T Cards. |
| [16:37:00] | Tommck_: | roam – I'm just not sure if it'll handle it all... seems a little too slow to me.. |
| [16:37:00] | Tommck_: | it's just a gut feeling |
| [16:37:00] | AlHaz: | for DVB all it has to do is copy the stream to disk |
| [16:37:00] | AlHaz: | transcoding in the background to save disk space would be time consuming but it'd get there eventually |
| [16:38:00] | Tommck_: | roam – how many cards? |
| [16:39:00] | AlHaz: | the maximum symbol rate of a dvb-t stream is pretty negligible in the grand scheme of pci |
| [16:39:00] | AlHaz: | what you'd have to look out for is the fact that the onboard ide is probably limtied to udma-2 and slower than snot |
| [16:39:00] | roam: | Tommck_: One for now, maybe two in the future, but not more. |
| [16:40:00] | Tommck_: | cool. |
| [16:40:00] | AlHaz: | so, get a pci raid card for your harddrives |
| [16:40:00] | roam: | AlHaz: Yes, it's udma2. |
| [16:40:00] | Tommck_: | I just always hesitate to run machines that slow, in general |
| [16:40:00] | roam: | AlHaz: Is that too slow? |
| [16:40:00] | AlHaz: | roam: No, it'd just annoy me |
| [16:40:00] | AlHaz: | I hate slow disks . . . |
| [16:41:00] | roam: | I would like to use that machine cause it's always running anyway and uses much less energy than my desktop. |
| [16:41:00] | AlHaz: | recording a whole transponder would be a bit of a stretch but you could do 2 or 3 program streams no problem |
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| [16:41:00] | Tommck_: | roam – why is it always running? |
| [16:41:00] | Tommck_: | it has another purpose? |
| [16:41:00] | AlHaz: | like i said, you're just copying data to disk |
| [16:41:00] | AlHaz: | and streaming it over the network |
| [16:42:00] | roam: | Tommck_: It's an internal Server for our lan. |
| [16:42:00] | AlHaz: | transcoding programs to divx in the background for archival might be a real chore |
| [16:42:00] | roam: | Tommck_: Doing some Web and Database stuff, but not too intensive. |
| [16:42:00] | Tommck_: | roam – are you continuing to use it as that? |
| [16:42:00] | AlHaz: | but just getting the streams off the air is a light-weight task |
| [16:42:00] | roam: | Tommck_: and E-Mail. |
| [16:42:00] | roam: | Tommck_: Yes. |
| [16:43:00] | Tommck_: | hmm... I wouldn't feel comfortable with that, but that's me |
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| [16:43:00] | roam: | AlHaz: Can you record whole transponders with just one card? |
| [16:43:00] | roam: | Tommck_: Why not? |
| [16:43:00] | Tommck_: | I don't think I would want it trying to run an email server, file sharing and a database with that |
| [16:44:00] | roam: | It's not doing filesharing. |
| [16:44:00] | Tommck_: | ok... sorry... but add web server to the list |
| [16:44:00] | roam: | and it just servers imap mailboxes internally. |
| [16:44:00] | Tommck_: | AlHaz – you still think it'll work running multipler servers? |
| [16:44:00] | roam: | Tommck_: but very rarely. |
| [16:45:00] | Tommck_: | well, make your own choice |
| [16:45:00] | AlHaz: | roam: Yeah. My experience is DVB-S and ATSC, but the normal method is to tune a transponder and then play specific pids from it. No reason you can't get the whole transponder |
| [16:45:00] | AlHaz: | in DVB-S at least, the transponder is an mpeg transport stream containing several program streams |
| [16:46:00] | AlHaz: | they vary up to about 22 megabit |
| [16:46:00] | AlHaz: | when you play a particular live stream, you're demuxing out the one program you want |
| [16:47:00] | AlHaz: | if you were to cat /dev/dvb/whatever it is to a file, that should theoretically be the whole transport stream |
| [16:48:00] | AlHaz: | Tommck_: Depends how *much it's doing |
| [16:48:00] | AlHaz: | Tommck_: But the dvb data transfer is going to be a busmaster memory copy with less significance than an ethernet card |
| [16:49:00] | AlHaz: | demuxing isn't all that hard |
| [16:49:00] | AlHaz: | but this presupposes that you're saving the mpeg streams as they arrive and not re-encoding them |
| [16:49:00] | AlHaz: | it's the encoding processes that kill you in myth |
| [16:50:00] | roam: | AlHaz: Copy that, but does the HW / Card do the demultiplexing? |
| [16:51:00] | AlHaz: | roam: Well, like i said, my experience is mostly DVB-S. If your DVB-T card is analagous to a 'budget' card — technotrend or b2c2 stuff — it's going to leave that up to software, but it's no big deal |
| [16:52:00] | AlHaz: | in dvb-S, cards like the Hauppaugge Nexus-S can demux and even decode in hardware, i dunno that the api uses it |
| [16:52:00] | roam: | So the budget card is 'superiour' in this case. |
| [16:52:00] | AlHaz: | yeah, the Nexus-S does screw with the stream a little |
| [16:52:00] | roam: | AlHaz: I use a Nova-T |
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| [16:52:00] | AlHaz: | but since nobody broadcasts DVB-T in north america, i've never even seen a DVB-T card |
| [16:54:00] | AlHaz: | roam: so that's a budget design – it'll be fine, good even, you're doing all the decoding on other machines |
| [16:54:00] | AlHaz: | Anyway, I need to go to work |
| [16:54:00] | roam: | So I need around 8MBit of I/O (for one channel) and 16 MBit if I stream it live. |
| [16:54:00] | roam: | AlHaz: Thanks for the Info and have a nice day. |
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| [17:14:00] | simprix: | I see in the documentation it says to set /dev/dsp to alsa in mythtv where can i find this setting in mythtv ? |
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| [17:19:00] | travolta: | settings in mythfrontend |
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| [17:20:00] | simprix: | where it says /dev/dsp to i just type alsa |
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| [17:21:00] | travolta: | i think you should leave it as /dev/dsp |
| [17:21:00] | travolta: | you get no sound? |
| [17:24:00] | simprix: | i tried it last night but i didn't have the patch cable going from the capture card to the sound card |
| [17:25:00] | travolta: | what capture card? |
| [17:25:00] | simprix: | ati tv-wonder ve |
| [17:26:00] | travolta: | so no sound? or cause you didnt have the cable? |
| [17:26:00] | simprix: | im thinking cause of the cord but i wanted to cover all bases |
| [17:27:00] | travolta: | maybe you should try the obvious first, get the cable |
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| [17:41:00] | kgrimm: | what is the best linux distro and tv card setup? |
| [17:42:00] | rtsai: | best for what? |
| [17:42:00] | rtsai: | some devs use debian |
| [17:42:00] | didj: | now thats a scary question |
| [17:42:00] | rtsai: | many howtos are for fedora |
| [17:42:00] | didj: | ;P |
| [17:44:00] | kgrimm: | i have played with gentoo, fc3, fc4(not impressed at this time) , and few others,, currently have an avermedia card but also not impressed. so looking for new setup that make the TV easy to use |
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| [18:15:00] | Beirdo: | morning, kormoc |
| [18:15:00] | Beirdo: | get to work :) hehe |
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| [18:18:00] | kormoc: | motnin Beirdo |
| [18:18:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:18:00] | kormoc: | I have come to the conclusion that all canadians are nutties then americans :P |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | audioscrobbler's wonky once again |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | ?! |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | wha? |
| [18:19:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | what was that in the Queen's English? |
| [18:20:00] | laga: | i wish i knew. |
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| [19:02:00] | Spida: | anybody here USING mythmusic with a large music-collection? |
| [19:02:00] | kormoc: | people have tried, it's not pretty. |
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| [19:06:00] | Spida: | not pretty as in "unusable"? |
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| [19:06:00] | kormoc: | for a lot of people, aye |
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| [19:06:00] | Spida: | yeah, ack that |
| [19:08:00] | Spida: | I am just is there a working alternative? |
| [19:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't find stability problems with it. I just don't like the interface so I don't bother using it. But my GF uses it all the time |
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| [19:08:00] | Spida: | like amarok or something? |
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| [19:14:00] | ** laga wants mythmarok ** | |
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| [19:23:00] | ** Beirdo wants mythlife ** | |
| [19:24:00] | laga: | timeshifting would be a nifty feature. with bookmarks. |
| [19:24:00] | laga: | 'go back to the point before i got drunk and did that ugly one' |
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| [19:24:00] | crash-x: | lol |
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| [19:47:00] | jonK: | exit |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [19:48:00] | jonK: | yes! |
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| [20:27:00] | ** Beirdo splats splat1 ** | |
| [20:27:00] | splat1: | eek |
| [20:27:00] | splat1: | ;) |
| [20:27:00] | ** splat1 walks off ** | |
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| [20:30:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh, blues |
| [20:31:00] | laga: | np: helloween – high live ;) |
| [20:31:00] | rw: | does anyone know what means the MCE word in the hauppage PVR boards? |
| [20:31:00] | rw: | or what it differs from the non MCE boards? |
| [20:31:00] | epoch: | media centre edition |
| [20:32:00] | epoch: | i.e. Windows XP MCE |
| [20:32:00] | Beirdo: | ewww |
| [20:32:00] | rw: | epoch, yeah, it's weird because in the wiki it's listed pvr250MCE and not pvr250. |
| [20:33:00] | rw: | both work with mythtv? |
| [20:40:00] | Chutt: | hauppauge's website has all that info |
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| [20:42:00] | rw: | we're listing hardware encoded boards to test all of them, but pvr-150 is looking a good choice since it is almost the same hardware as 250... |
| [20:43:00] | Chutt: | it's completely different hardware :p |
| [20:43:00] | Atamido: | I here the 250 has better visual quality, but I wouldn't know and am not the one to ask. |
| [20:43:00] | Chutt: | support's not so good as the 250 |
| [20:44:00] | rw: | Chutt, I read only two chips is the diference |
| [20:44:00] | KarlosII: | does mythtv have ati all in wonder support yet? |
| [20:44:00] | Chutt: | rw, out of 3 :p |
| [20:44:00] | Chutt: | and the tuners are different |
| [20:45:00] | rw: | "The PVR-150 uses the same Conexant MPEG2 encoding chip we all know and love. The difference here is that they replaced two chips (one from Philips that was the video A/DC and one from Micronas that was audio A/DC) with one integrated audio and video A/D convertor chip from Conexant. So essentially the PVR-150 design is cheaper and easier to produce, as it only has two chips and both are from the same vendor. As an added b |
| [20:45:00] | rw: | enefit the new CX chip has dual 10-bit analog to digital convertors, whereas the Philips chip had a single 9-bit A/DC, so things have the potential to actually be a little better looking." -> http://www.meedio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=132929 |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | thanks for pasting stuff we coulda read... |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:45:00] | rw: | ha |
| [20:45:00] | rw: | true, my bad... |
| [20:46:00] | ** Beirdo chuckles ** | |
| [20:46:00] | Atamido: | KarlosII: I haven't heard of anything in Linux supporting an ATI AIW. |
| [20:46:00] | Atamido: | <_< |
| [20:47:00] | KarlosII: | Atamido, do you by chance no why? |
| [20:47:00] | Atamido: | >_> |
| [20:47:00] | Atamido: | ATI doesn't put any effort into supporting Linux. |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | Atamido: gatos kinda supports it |
| [20:47:00] | rw: | Chutt, each one do you use? |
| [20:47:00] | Atamido: | Well, very little. |
| [20:48:00] | KarlosII: | hmm what about the wintv 500MCE? |
| [20:49:00] | Chutt: | i've got a 250, 350, and a 500 |
| [20:49:00] | Chutt: | haven't set the 500 up yet. |
| [20:49:00] | rw: | KarlosII, i think it has 2 tuners and stuff |
| [20:50:00] | rw: | bah, the diference from pvr-150 to pvr-250 isn't that big. It's worth it buying 250. |
| [20:50:00] | KarlosII: | chutt i wish to knwo if the 500 can be gooten working linux |
| [20:50:00] | Chutt: | err, read the lists |
| [20:50:00] | Chutt: | people are using it |
| [20:50:00] | rw: | 25 dollars list. |
| [20:51:00] | KarlosII: | rw what's the diff between 150 250 and 350, I've been mixed comments about the differences |
| [20:51:00] | Chutt: | KarlosII, why don't you go to hauppauge's website and look? they've got everything there. |
| [20:52:00] | rw: | KarlosII, there is some info in the wiki: http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/HardWare_2fVideoCaptureCards |
| [20:52:00] | rw: | KarlosII, basically 350 encode & decode, 250 encode, 150 encode with cheaper hardware |
| [20:52:00] | KarlosII: | chutt I am looking....... but the page doesn't make too much sense as I'm seeing very little diff |
| [20:52:00] | KarlosII: | http://www.hauppauge.com/Pages/compare_pvr.html |
| [20:52:00] | Chutt: | it's crazy how the maker of the cards actually has information on the differences between them |
| [20:53:00] | Chutt: | you'd think that they would keep that all secret, so people didn't know what to buy |
| [20:53:00] | rw: | haha |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | hehe :) |
| [20:54:00] | rw: | the diference from PVR150, PVR250 and PVR350 is that the first begins with 1, the middle one with 2 and the latest with 3! |
| [20:54:00] | KarlosII: | lol |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | Chutt: people will always be dumb :) |
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| [20:55:00] | KarlosII: | the decoder on the 350 is only used for video out right? |
| [20:55:00] | ** KarlosII wonders as his gfx card has video out ** | |
| [20:55:00] | laga: | KarlosII: well, i'm quite sure that it doesn't make coffee |
| [20:55:00] | KarlosII: | laga :) |
| [20:55:00] | laga: | KarlosII: scnr ;) |
| [20:55:00] | KarlosII: | scnr? o_O |
| [20:56:00] | ** KarlosII is trying to decide between a 150 or 350 ** | |
| [20:56:00] | laga: | KarlosII: 'sorry, i could not resist' |
| [20:57:00] | ** KarlosII ponders, I'm getting tired of my ati wonder ** | |
| [20:57:00] | KarlosII: | err |
| [20:57:00] | KarlosII: | I meant ati tv tuner |
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| [21:37:00] | simprix: | Is there some location I can find some docs on the keyboard binding for mythtv ? |
| [21:38:00] | Chutt: | keys.txt that came with myth, or in the docs in the 'using mythtv' section. |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | in other words... yes. |
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| [21:42:00] | Ghost: | can anyone tell me why I am getting an "access denied" when I try to access my myth system over my network |
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| [21:43:00] | laga: | Ghost: did you toggle the dohickey? |
| [21:43:00] | Ghost: | har har |
| [21:43:00] | Ghost: | I got webmin working and samba working |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | what do either of those have to do with MythTV? |
| [21:44:00] | Ghost: | I can see the files over the network it just wont let me write |
| [21:44:00] | Ghost: | it has to do with writing music and video files to a myth system |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | so fix your samba setup |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | that's not a mythtv problem |
| [21:45:00] | gr8nash: | your samba users needs permission to write to you myth folder |
| [21:48:00] | Ghost: | I put my user name under Read/write users and Valid users but it still says access denied |
| [21:49:00] | jonK: | did you restart the samba daemon after changing yoru permissions? |
| [21:49:00] | Ghost: | yes |
| [21:50:00] | Ghost: | using webmin to do it |
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| [21:59:00] | Ghost: | was just hoping you guys knew asomething about this since you have more knowledge of linux than I do |
| [22:00:00] | simprix: | #samba |
| [22:00:00] | ** laga doesn't know anything about linux ** | |
| [22:00:00] | ** Ghost knows even less than laga ** | |
| [22:01:00] | laga: | dude, don't challenge me. |
| [22:01:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [22:01:00] | Ghost: | lol, I use KnoppMyth |
| [22:01:00] | laga: | ok, you win |
| [22:02:00] | Ghost: | lol |
| [22:02:00] | laga: | Ghost: is it probably covered in the knoppmyth wiki? or in their forums? |
| [22:02:00] | Ghost: | I have found a few things close to it in there forums but it seems to be a linux thing |
| [22:03:00] | Ghost: | they didnt really cover it |
| [22:03:00] | laga: | well, your knoppmyth is based on linux. what did you expect? ;) |
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| [22:05:00] | Ghost: | yep, I have learned quite a bit about linux since I started working on my Mythbox but I am still not very good with it |
| [22:06:00] | laga: | heh |
| [22:06:00] | laga: | i started with 13 years (5 years ago) and i still stuck, don't worry ;) |
| [22:06:00] | gr8nash: | Ghost you use knoppmyth? |
| [22:06:00] | laga: | 22:01 < Ghost> lol, I use KnoppMyth |
| [22:06:00] | Ghost: | yeah |
| [22:06:00] | laga: | gr8nash: no, he's a liar!!! |
| [22:06:00] | gr8nash: | just start samaba.. and use mythtv pass mythtv |
| [22:07:00] | gr8nash: | it has full write access buildt into knoppmyth |
| [22:07:00] | Ghost: | heh I'll try, I may have messed that up with all my tinkering |
| [22:07:00] | gr8nash: | you need to change permission on the ACTUAL folder as well to use another samba users |
| [22:08:00] | gr8nash: | mythtv .. mythtv has write access to myth folder without doing anything |
| [22:09:00] | Ghost: | user: mythtv pass: mythtv says I dont have permission |
| [22:09:00] | gr8nash: | you borked it then |
| [22:09:00] | gr8nash: | what version of knoppmyth? |
| [22:10:00] | Ghost: | lol I thnk your right, r5a16 |
| [22:10:00] | gr8nash: | yep.. its been Ghosted |
| [22:11:00] | Ghost: | I have webmin up and running for working on samba and I set up webmin and samba to start up automaticly at startup |
| [22:11:00] | gr8nash: | well i have setup my own user using webmin.. it workes but you kinda have to know what your doing |
| [22:12:00] | gr8nash: | at least alittle bit.. i dont truely know what im doing.. just enough to play |
| [22:12:00] | Ghost: | lol |
| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | newbie :) |
| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:12:00] | gr8nash: | but like i said.. change the folder permissions |
| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | gotta start somewhere :) |
| [22:12:00] | laga: | Beirdo: yep |
| [22:12:00] | Ghost: | I just want to be able to upload my mp3s and vids to myth |
| [22:13:00] | laga: | Beirdo: mythtv is a very huge project for a newbie, imho.i'm quite glad that so many people manage it ;) |
| [22:13:00] | gr8nash: | Ghost you can use ssh.. or winscp |
| [22:13:00] | Ghost: | winscp? |
| [22:13:00] | laga: | Beirdo: how is it going? |
| [22:14:00] | gr8nash: | Ghost, if you use windows |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | work, work and more work |
| [22:14:00] | Ghost: | hmm |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:14:00] | Dibblah: | Is goldwein@xrtmd.net here? |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | and other than that, not bad |
| [22:14:00] | gr8nash: | Ghost, heh.. you need to prowl around the knoppmyth forums |
| [22:14:00] | gr8nash: | soak in the goodness.. shed your newbie'ness |
| [22:14:00] | gr8nash: | ;) |
| [22:15:00] | Ghost: | what did you set in your folder permissions? |
| [22:15:00] | Ghost: | lol |
| [22:16:00] | gr8nash: | whatever you want.. chmod 777 /myth |
| [22:16:00] | Ghost: | hmm |
| [22:16:00] | laga: | Beirdo: sounds great ;> |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, yeah |
| [22:17:00] | gr8nash: | crap im on my winblows box.. cant you chmod 777 -R /myth |
| [22:17:00] | gr8nash: | i cant remember |
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| [22:17:00] | ** gr8nash waits for the peanut gallery to respond ** | |
| [22:18:00] | Ghost: | nope still says access denied |
| [22:18:00] | gr8nash: | well thats one step but you still need samba setup correctly |
| [22:18:00] | gr8nash: | did you try "-R" |
| [22:18:00] | gr8nash: | so it does the subfolders? |
| [22:18:00] | Ghost: | -R? |
| [22:19:00] | gr8nash: | gr8nash crap im on my winblows box.. cant you chmod 777 -R /myth |
| [22:19:00] | Ghost: | i did it via webmin |
| [22:19:00] | gr8nash: | what is yoru workstation? |
| [22:19:00] | gr8nash: | windows? |
| [22:19:00] | Ghost: | xp yeah |
| [22:19:00] | gr8nash: | download putty |
| [22:19:00] | gr8nash: | use that |
| [22:19:00] | Ghost: | putty? |
| [22:20:00] | gr8nash: | lol.. your using all the wrong tools.. pounding square pegs through round holes |
| [22:20:00] | Ghost: | lol yeah |
| [22:20:00] | gr8nash: | download putty and let me know |
| [22:20:00] | Ghost: | so where do I get it? |
| [22:21:00] | jonK: | google "putty" |
| [22:21:00] | Ghost: | k |
| [22:21:00] | jonK: | actually google, putty and ssh |
| [22:21:00] | mchou: | anyone have an ASUS A8N-* here? |
| [22:21:00] | gr8nash: | googled "putty download" and this came up http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html |
| [22:21:00] | jonK: | putty might get all kinds of "silly" references |
| [22:21:00] | gr8nash: | mchou, i do |
| [22:21:00] | gr8nash: | sli rocks! |
| [22:21:00] | mchou: | gr8nash: does QFan work for ya? |
| [22:21:00] | Ghost: | ok got it |
| [22:22:00] | gr8nash: | err sorry havnt tried it |
| [22:22:00] | jonK: | gr8nash ding ding |
| [22:22:00] | mchou: | gr8nash: piece of crap wont start fan on cold boot. |
| [22:22:00] | gr8nash: | mchou, what are you running on it |
| [22:22:00] | gr8nash: | im using dualboot xp and ubuntu |
| [22:22:00] | mchou: | stock amd HSF |
| [22:23:00] | mchou: | gr8nash: knoppix right now (burn in) :) |
| [22:23:00] | gr8nash: | is QFan a bios setting..it sounds framilar i just cant remember |
| [22:23:00] | mchou: | gr8nash: yup. |
| [22:23:00] | gr8nash: | ill try it tonight.. |
| [22:23:00] | Ghost: | ok, I'm in my mythbox via putty |
| [22:23:00] | mchou: | it's the bios thingy that controls fan speeds. |
| [22:23:00] | gr8nash: | Ghost, did you log in through putty |
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| [22:23:00] | Ghost: | yes |
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| [22:24:00] | gr8nash: | did you create a username when you installed knoppmyth? |
| [22:24:00] | Ghost: | mhmm |
| [22:24:00] | mchou: | gr8nash: you know what rev bios you got on it? |
| [22:24:00] | gr8nash: | mchou, sorry i dont.. all i have here is my box.. |
| [22:24:00] | gr8nash: | my actualy computer is home |
| [22:24:00] | ** gr8nash buildt it at work ** | |
| [22:24:00] | mchou: | gr8nash: alright dude |
| [22:25:00] | gr8nash: | Ghost, did you? |
| [22:25:00] | Ghost: | what> |
| [22:25:00] | Ghost: | yes |
| [22:25:00] | gr8nash: | do you remeber what username and password you told it? |
| [22:25:00] | Ghost: | yes |
| [22:26:00] | Ghost: | the same I use on my win system |
| [22:26:00] | gr8nash: | ok paste your public IP address and username and password into the window |
| [22:26:00] | gr8nash: | LOL no.. just joking |
| [22:26:00] | Ghost: | har har |
| [22:26:00] | laga: | rotfl |
| [22:26:00] | Ghost: | not that dumb |
| [22:26:00] | gr8nash: | in webmin you need to click on the "convert unix to samber users" |
| [22:26:00] | gr8nash: | did you do that? |
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| [22:27:00] | Ghost: | ok now what |
| [22:27:00] | gr8nash: | im donig this from memory.. im pulling up my mythbox now |
| [22:28:00] | gr8nash: | give me 1 min |
| [22:28:00] | Ghost: | no problem |
| [22:28:00] | mchou: | gr8nash: you running xp64 on you a8n? |
| [22:29:00] | mchou: | your* |
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| [22:29:00] | mchou: | or just xp32? |
| [22:29:00] | gr8nash: | 32 =( |
| [22:29:00] | gr8nash: | and 32bit linux cause the repositories suck for 64bit |
| [22:29:00] | gr8nash: | couldnt even find libdvdcss |
| [22:29:00] | gr8nash: | blah |
| [22:29:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [22:30:00] | mchou: | serves you right for using ubuntu. |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: no distro wars today or the trout will start swinging :) |
| [22:30:00] | laga: | hmm, swinger trouts |
| [22:30:00] | mchou: | we talking a64 |
| [22:30:00] | mchou: | hardly a distro war. |
| [22:30:00] | gr8nash: | lol... |
| [22:31:00] | gr8nash: | Ghost ill pm you to spare the people here |
| [22:31:00] | Ghost: | lol ok |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | I use ubuntu on a64, works perfectly fine |
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| [22:32:00] | gr8nash: | Beirdo, did you find it hard to find some of the stuff with apt |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | not really |
| [22:32:00] | mchou: | ubuntu64 or ubuntu32? |
| [22:32:00] | gr8nash: | 64 |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | Hoary for AMD64 platform |
| [22:33:00] | gr8nash: | im hoary 32 |
| [22:33:00] | gr8nash: | =( |
| [22:34:00] | gr8nash: | works great.. but i want bragging right damn it! |
| [22:34:00] | mchou: | gr8nash: I guess beirdo doesnt use libdvdcss :) |
| [22:35:00] | Beirdo: | no need for it |
| [22:35:00] | hadeees: | man i hope this patent law fails in the EU... then mabey the USA will come up with better patent laws |
| [22:35:00] | hadeees: | but i won't hold my breath on either of those |
| [22:35:00] | mchou: | hadeees: what pipe you smoking??? |
| [22:35:00] | gr8nash: | Beirdo, you dont use mythvideo? |
| [22:36:00] | ** Beirdo puts another rock into hadeees' pipe ** | |
| [22:36:00] | linuxvirgin: | have a question for you guys |
| [22:36:00] | Beirdo: | my PVR is running FC1 |
| [22:36:00] | Beirdo: | silly |
| [22:36:00] | hadeees: | linuxvirgin, 23 |
| [22:36:00] | Beirdo: | haven't rebuilt it yet |
| [22:36:00] | rjune: | hadeees it's 42 |
| [22:36:00] | Beirdo: | and yes, I do |
| [22:36:00] | hadeees: | rjune, whats 42 |
| [22:36:00] | linuxvirgin: | it's always 42 :) |
| [22:36:00] | rjune: | hadeees the answer |
| [22:37:00] | laga: | hi rjune |
| [22:37:00] | rjune: | laga sup |
| [22:37:00] | rjune: | brb |
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| [22:37:00] | linuxvirgin: | anyway, all I can get out of my mythtv box is a green screen w/ static at the top |
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| [22:37:00] | hadeees: | rjune, if your just taking that from a book that isn't very scientific |
| [22:37:00] | laga: | rjune really seems to like me |
| [22:37:00] | laga: | oh, he's back ;) |
| [22:37:00] | rjune: | yeah, I'm back |
| [22:37:00] | linuxvirgin: | i think it has something to do with the drivers for my card, but judging from my nick, I'm not all that good with linux |
| [22:37:00] | laga: | rjune: nothing, just having the good night cocktail. and with you? |
| [22:38:00] | rjune: | wife is making some homemade pizza |
| [22:38:00] | hadeees: | linuxvirgin, what kind of card? |
| [22:39:00] | hadeees: | anyway you need to look at your dmesg output for ivtv errors |
| [22:39:00] | linuxvirgin: | it's picked up by KnoppMyth as a Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (Rev 11) |
| [22:39:00] | hadeees: | oh its a bttv card |
| [22:39:00] | laga: | rjune: sounds tasty ;) |
| [22:40:00] | linuxvirgin: | if I try to watch live TV, all I get is as described above, then it dumps to the xterm window with a bunch of errors |
| [22:40:00] | rjune: | laga: it's delicious |
| [22:40:00] | linuxvirgin: | including Remote encoder not responding |
| [22:41:00] | linuxvirgin: | Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it. You likely won't get any video |
| [22:41:00] | linuxvirgin: | and a few "bad socket" errors, as well |
| [22:41:00] | Chutt: | get it working in xawtv first |
| [22:41:00] | Chutt: | then move on to mythtv |
| [22:41:00] | laga: | linuxvirgin: the color key stuff is prolly related to crappy drivers for your video card. |
| [22:42:00] | linuxvirgin: | what's xawtv? |
| [22:42:00] | laga: | and listen to chutt, i hear he knows what he's talking about :> |
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| [22:42:00] | linuxvirgin: | just googlex xawtv |
| [22:42:00] | linuxvirgin: | googled, rather |
| [22:43:00] | hadeees: | anyone here use time warner cable and have a working firewire port to record off of? |
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| [22:43:00] | linuxvirgin: | being the linux noob that I am, I don't even know how to install additional packages into knoppmyth |
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| [22:45:00] | hadeees: | sweet, time warner: http://www.timewarnercable.com/nc/products/cable/firewire.html |
| [22:45:00] | linuxvirgin: | so therefore, I guess I suck |
| [22:45:00] | laga: | linuxvirgin: apt-get it is called |
| [22:45:00] | mchou: | is firewire 800 backwards compatible with firewire 400 devices? |
| [22:46:00] | mchou: | sigh..... |
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| [22:53:00] | hadeees: | hmm anyone here using firewire right now? |
| [22:54:00] | hadeees: | do you have a digital cable box only for HDTV over firewire? does it not let you get all channels except analog over firewire |
| [22:54:00] | mchou: | hadeees: google HDMI 5C :) |
| [22:54:00] | linuxvirgin: | what should my capture card be set to in mythtv-setup? |
| [22:55:00] | linuxvirgin: | right now I just have it set to "Standard V4L capture card" |
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| [22:56:00] | guestish: | im trying to get mythtv to properly give audio, but when i set my card to capture line-in it gives this annoying buzzing sound |
| [22:56:00] | guestish: | is that due to a bad DAC or my settings? |
| [22:57:00] | hadeees: | mchou, that google search is just confusing |
| [22:57:00] | hadeees: | i think my cable company are going to be dicks and only let me view HDTV over firewire |
| [22:57:00] | mchou: | what's so confusing about it? |
| [22:58:00] | hadeees: | http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/howto-dvi-hdmi.html |
| [22:58:00] | guestish: | hadeees: mine is like that too, cept they are even more like dicks and wont give me a firewire box w/o subscribing their PVR service |
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| [22:59:00] | mchou: | hadeees: what's so confusing about that link? |
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| [23:00:00] | guestish: | this buzzing is giving me a headache... |
| [23:00:00] | Beirdo: | Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| [23:00:00] | guestish: | ... |
| [23:00:00] | guestish: | okay? |
| [23:01:00] | ** kormoc lets a few flys go in guestish's office. ** | |
| [23:01:00] | guestish: | high pitched noises arent my friend |
| [23:01:00] | guestish: | think its a crappy sound card? its an integrated realtek |
| [23:01:00] | guestish: | er, i mean think thats the problem? |
| [23:01:00] | hadeees: | mchou, well it says HDMI is a replacement for DVI |
| [23:02:00] | mchou: | hadeees: sigh..... |
| [23:02:00] | hadeees: | mchou, so what does 1394 have to do with it |
| [23:02:00] | Beirdo: | could be |
| [23:02:00] | mchou: | hadeees: go further down the page |
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| [23:02:00] | mchou: | hadeees: or google hdcp |
| [23:04:00] | guestish: | i want 1394! |
| [23:04:00] | guestish: | bah |
| [23:04:00] | mchou: | hadeees: I meant dtcp |
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| [23:07:00] | hadeees: | mchou, wait so your saying if mythtv were dtcp compliant i could get non hdtv content? |
| [23:07:00] | triNode: | antone have mythtv change channels on their skybox? |
| [23:07:00] | triNode: | *anyone |
| [23:08:00] | mchou: | hadeees: the pc is not hdcp/5C compliant. |
| [23:08:00] | mchou: | nothing to do with myth whatsoever. |
| [23:09:00] | linuxvirgin: | xawtv gives me a black box w/ the static at the top.... this sucks |
| [23:09:00] | linuxvirgin: | darn cheap card |
| [23:09:00] | hadeees: | mchou, well yeah but i didn't know if software could be compliant with out hardware, i guess not |
| [23:09:00] | linuxvirgin: | bet it'd work fine in windows :P |
| [23:09:00] | linuxvirgin: | or maybe on it's way out the window |
| [23:09:00] | Beirdo: | have fun in Windows then |
| [23:09:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [23:10:00] | hadeees: | linuxvirgin, did you do any resaerch before buying that card? |
| [23:12:00] | hadeees: | mchou, so since the content is protected with DTCP does that mean mythtv can't do anything with it even the hdtv stuff? |
| [23:13:00] | linuxvirgin: | hardees- i saw where someone put in the mythtv hardware database that their experience was a "9" with this card, and also two of the reviews on newegg claimed they were using it in mythtv with no troubles |
| [23:13:00] | linuxvirgin: | I'm finding otherwise now... seems these cards are rather infamous |
| [23:13:00] | hadeees: | linuxvirgin, well its not that, just most people suggest using a hardware mpeg2 encoder |
| [23:14:00] | hadeees: | not that you have too |
| [23:14:00] | linuxvirgin: | yes, I did know that, but I just didn't have the money to drop on a hardware encoder card |
| [23:14:00] | hadeees: | but there is more help available |
| [23:14:00] | linuxvirgin: | figured that since I was only using one card, my Athlon 2100+ that's in the myth box would have an easy enough time keeping up |
| [23:14:00] | Beirdo: | it should |
| [23:15:00] | linuxvirgin: | now I just have to get it to where it has something to keep up _with_ |
| [23:15:00] | hadeees: | linuxvirgin, yeah it should be fine, no clue what a good bttv is |
| [23:15:00] | hadeees: | might want to search the mailing list |
| [23:15:00] | linuxvirgin: | i was talking to someone on #knoppmyth |
| [23:15:00] | hadeees: | linuxvirgin, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ |
| [23:16:00] | linuxvirgin: | he/she/it helped me out a lot trying to chase this down, but we didn't get it fixed |
| [23:16:00] | mchou: | linuxvirgin: you have a digital camera? |
| [23:16:00] | linuxvirgin: | so I'm going to check in there later when there's more people around |
| [23:16:00] | linuxvirgin: | mchou- yes, I do |
| [23:16:00] | mchou: | linuxvirgin: take a close-up shot of the card. |
| [23:16:00] | mchou: | see which chip it really has.... |
| [23:16:00] | mchou: | or do a lspci :) |
| [23:17:00] | mchou: | try lspci first..... |
| [23:17:00] | linuxvirgin: | nuts... just shut the machine down |
| [23:17:00] | mchou: | put it in pastebin. |
| [23:18:00] | linuxvirgin: | here's a link to the card on newegg.... http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16815100103 |
| [23:18:00] | linuxvirgin: | if that helps at all |
| [23:19:00] | mchou: | but is that exactly the same as your card that you got :) |
| [23:19:00] | linuxvirgin: | Conexant seems to make chips for everything, don't they |
| [23:19:00] | mchou: | lil, you got a pos kworld. |
| [23:19:00] | mchou: | lol* |
| [23:20:00] | linuxvirgin: | The chip is a Conexant Fusion 878A |
| [23:20:00] | linuxvirgin: | thanks, mchou |
| [23:20:00] | linuxvirgin: | i bought what I could afford |
| [23:20:00] | mchou: | well, then it should work. you need to mess with tuner type is all. |
| [23:21:00] | mchou: | $37 is a rip for that card. |
| [23:22:00] | linuxvirgin: | interestingly, the pic on newegg shows the tuner being covered by a sticker with "KWORLD" all over it, but the card I got has a "V-Stream" sticker on it. Prolly another case of some asian company having 15 different names... |
| [23:22:00] | mchou: | most I'd pay for that card is $20. |
| [23:22:00] | mchou: | they are the same company. |
| [23:22:00] | linuxvirgin: | all I care about is can I get it to work? not how much I got ripped off in the process |
| [23:22:00] | mchou: | vstream is kworld's line of tv products. |
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| [23:23:00] | mchou: | I told you how to go about getting it working. |
| [23:23:00] | linuxvirgin: | i know, i'm just saying... |
| [23:24:00] | linuxvirgin: | should this card show up in MythTV as a named card when adding a new capture card? |
| [23:24:00] | linuxvirgin: | or will I be using something more generic |
| [23:24:00] | linuxvirgin: | because as it is, it doesn't show up specifically |
| [23:24:00] | mchou: | you are nowhere close to using mythtv yet. You should verify with xawtv. |
| [23:26:00] | linuxvirgin: | xawtv doesn't work either |
| [23:26:00] | mchou: | no shit. |
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| [23:32:00] | ** MajestiK throws a salmon at MythLogBot ** | |
| [23:32:00] | Beirdo: | ?! |
| [23:32:00] | Beirdo: | you abusing my bot? |
| [23:32:00] | ** MajestiK nods ** | |
| [23:33:00] | ** Beirdo slaps MajestiK with a trout ** | |
| [23:33:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:34:00] | gr8nash: | DEAR GOD! |
| [23:34:00] | ** MajestiK offers Beirdo some prairie oysters ** | |
| [23:34:00] | gr8nash: | transfering 76 gig takes DAYS |
| [23:34:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:34:00] | gr8nash: | lol |
| [23:34:00] | Beirdo: | no thanks |
| [23:34:00] | gr8nash: | its been running two hours now |
| [23:34:00] | MajestiK: | mmm... seafood |
| [23:34:00] | rjune: | gr8nash: use rsync, it's easier to break it off and resume |
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| [23:35:00] | gr8nash: | good idea. im using windows though =/ |
| [23:36:00] | gr8nash: | once i have transfered it over.. i need to transfer it via USB 1.1 to a Harddrive.. |
| [23:36:00] | gr8nash: | lol there goes another 5 hours |
| [23:36:00] | ** gr8nash is glad he is paid by the hour =) ** | |
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| [23:37:00] | rjune: | gr8nash: remote system transfer using windows? |
| [23:37:00] | gr8nash: | transfering ntback files to an office computer |
| [23:37:00] | rjune: | have fun |
| [23:37:00] | rjune: | mwa ha ha |
| [23:37:00] | gr8nash: | rather.. im going to carry it offsite in on a USB harddrive |
| [23:38:00] | gr8nash: | so a safe that weighs 200 lbs.. that has instructions to drill from inside out to mount on wall with lag bolts |
| [23:39:00] | ** gr8nash wonders how safe a "safe" is that is made to drill through? ** | |
| [23:39:00] | rjune: | backups then eh? |
| [23:39:00] | gr8nash: | yep |
| [23:39:00] | rjune: | gr8nash: I always like a 3ware raid card with multiple drives for that |
| [23:40:00] | gr8nash: | what do you mena? |
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| [23:40:00] | gr8nash: | mirror? |
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| [23:40:00] | rjune: | yueah |
| [23:41:00] | rjune: | I run raid 1, then hotswap the drives |
| [23:41:00] | quink: | is mythstreamtv still under active development? |
| [23:42:00] | gr8nash: | what type of drives can you hotswap? |
| [23:42:00] | rjune: | gr8nash: any |
| [23:42:00] | gr8nash: | SATA is the only ones i know of |
| [23:42:00] | gr8nash: | really? |
| [23:42:00] | rjune: | get a hotswap bay and a 3ware card |
| [23:42:00] | rjune: | yup really |
| [23:42:00] | Beirdo: | SCA |
| [23:42:00] | rjune: | most raid cards can hotswap |
| [23:42:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:42:00] | gr8nash: | is 3ware IDE raid? |
| [23:42:00] | rjune: | 3ware makes ide and sata raid |
| [23:43:00] | gr8nash: | i will check them out.. |
| [23:43:00] | gr8nash: | got a bay you can recomend? |
| [23:43:00] | Beirdo: | not as good a large-scale operation as tapes |
| [23:43:00] | rjune: | not really |
| [23:43:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: depends on what you want |
| [23:43:00] | Beirdo: | not really |
| [23:43:00] | rjune: | for disaster recovery it works great |
| [23:44:00] | rjune: | for individual file recovery it sucks |
| [23:44:00] | gr8nash: | Beirdo, would you like to know how your wrong? |
| [23:44:00] | gr8nash: | why tapes suck SOOOO badly |
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| [23:44:00] | Beirdo: | because of pebcak? |
| [23:44:00] | gr8nash: | because good tape drives start ~3000 ++++ to expensive to keep spares laying around.. |
| [23:44:00] | gr8nash: | and if you tapedrive dies when you need it |
| [23:44:00] | Beirdo: | bitch bitch bitch |
| [23:45:00] | gr8nash: | what can you do with the tapes? |
| [23:45:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:45:00] | gr8nash: | that was me experience.. (nightmare) |
| [23:45:00] | gr8nash: | s/me/my |
| [23:45:00] | quink: | i do something sorta like raid 1 |
| [23:45:00] | quink: | 2 matched hdds. same paritions and boot loaders |
| [23:45:00] | gr8nash: | hard drives you can alway just pop in a computer and get it up quick |
| [23:45:00] | Beirdo: | you can tell the boss to stop cheaping out and buy another tape drive |
| [23:45:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:45:00] | gr8nash: | heh.. |
| [23:45:00] | quink: | i just rsync drive A to drive B nightly so its disaster recovery and a 24hrs backup |
| [23:45:00] | quink: | incase you delete a file or something |
| [23:46:00] | rjune: | quink: I do that too |
| [23:46:00] | quink: | works great as long as you remember not to overwrite your fstab |
| [23:46:00] | rjune: | hehe |
| [23:47:00] | quink: | its saved my ass before. ops damn rm -f. oh right i have a backup |
| [23:47:00] | gr8nash: | rjune, do you get a _freakin_ long IDE cable to get from the 3ware to the bay? |
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| [23:47:00] | rjune: | gr8nash: no |
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| [23:50:00] | gr8nash: | ok how do you connect the bay to the host computer? |
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| [23:51:00] | xris: | quink: http://rsnapshot.org |
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| [23:52:00] | quink: | nifty |
| [23:52:00] | quink: | but i don't think it'd work for me |
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| [23:52:00] | quink: | i want to have a live backup so if a drive fails or a major disater, i can boot up off hte second drive |
| [23:53:00] | xris: | quink: no.. but it's better than your current rsync solution. |
| [23:54:00] | xris: | live backup would be "raid0" |
| [23:54:00] | xris: | sorry, "raid1" |
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| [23:55:00] | quink: | yeah but this is a live, 24hr delayed, backup |
| [23:55:00] | Beirdo: | if it's delayed it's not live |
| [23:55:00] | quink: | well its pseudo raid 1 |
| [23:55:00] | Beirdo: | you must work for a TV network |
| [23:55:00] | quink: | heh |
| [23:55:00] | rjune: | pseudo raid 1? how does that work? |
| [23:55:00] | xris: | quink: except you're probably not copying boot sector stuff with rsync. |
| [23:56:00] | quink: | i can boot off it and have af ully working system, and i can restore files that have been deleted in the last 24hrs |
| [23:56:00] | quink: | xris: i installed grub in it |
| [23:56:00] | quink: | its been tested :P |
| [23:56:00] | xris: | quink: I guess grub is smart enoug to get around that, then... not like lilo that needs settings stored in there. |
| [23:56:00] | xris: | quink: but like Beirdo said, that's not a live backup. |
| [23:57:00] | ** xris goes off to click some beirdo ads. ** | |
| [23:57:00] | quink: | yeah its sorta live |
| [23:57:00] | gr8nash: | xris, lol |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | no it isn't |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | it's a daily snapshot |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | that's not "sorta live" |
| [23:57:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: it's sorta raid 1 too |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | quink: no, it's delayed. live is, well, live. |
| [23:57:00] | quink: | ok wahtever |
| [23:57:00] | quink: | you know what i mean |
| [23:58:00] | xris: | gr8nash: well, I'm not going to plug my OWN ads... but I can plug Beirdo's and hope that people will then go click mine.. :) |
| [23:58:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, click xris' ads :) |
| [23:59:00] | Stereo: | hi folks. I have a relatively obscrure aopen 'personal cinema' graphics card that is also a tv tuner. It has a nvidia fx 5200 on it, and its model is fx5200p-vc128. Is there any way I can find out what sort of tv tuner it has? I tried reading the irc faq and mythtv wiki but couldn't find anything about tuners. |
| [23:59:00] | ** xris suggests that there are actually some cool ones at meadbrewer.com, but they're small businesses and should only be clicked if you mean it. ** | |
| [23:59:00] | quink: | ads? |
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