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| [00:20:00] | dougiel: | what is the best card to use for mythtv? |
| [00:21:00] | linagee_: | google earth is awesome! better than google maps! ten times better! |
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| [00:33:00] | jonK: | it's looks like it utterly rocks |
| [00:33:00] | jonK: | but won't get to play with it until tonight |
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| [00:35:00] | riddlebox: | hello, if I get a Hauppage WinTV-PVR 250, will it do ok with an AMD K6–2 500mhz cpu? |
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| [00:37:00] | D-side: | since its not in the topic, anyone notice the ora article? |
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| [00:39:00] | jonK: | a pvr250 would do fine |
| [00:40:00] | jonK: | They'll hold hands, laugh, start a family of .nuv files... |
| [00:40:00] | riddlebox: | jonk: ok, do you know if a remote comes with it? |
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| [00:41:00] | jonK: | yes |
| [00:41:00] | jonK: | i believe it does |
| [00:41:00] | jonK: | ora? |
| [00:42:00] | jonK: | but for the money you might consider a pvr500 |
| [00:42:00] | jonK: | 2x tuners not 2x price |
| [00:42:00] | jonK: | for 2x the love |
| [00:42:00] | riddlebox: | sweet, I cant wait, I told my girlfriend about mythtv and for the first time she was like get it and do it now |
| [00:43:00] | riddlebox: | really |
| [00:43:00] | jonK: | that's only becuase she want you good and distracted |
| [00:43:00] | riddlebox: | lol |
| [00:43:00] | jonK: | what her ultimate plan is, i do not know, |
| [00:43:00] | riddlebox: | I wonder if best buy carries the pvr500 |
| [00:43:00] | jonK: | but can guarantee it will be nefarious |
| [00:44:00] | riddlebox: | she probably wants me to record the season of Rescue Me |
| [00:45:00] | riddlebox: | ohh yeah, with that card, can I watch live tv, and record at the same time? |
| [00:45:00] | riddlebox: | the 250 |
| [00:46:00] | jonK: | not with the 250, it has 1 tuner |
| [00:46:00] | jonK: | which means watch live (1) or record (1) but not both |
| [00:46:00] | jonK: | can watch a recording as it's being recorded though |
| [00:47:00] | jonK: | and after a while, I rarely watch live tv |
| [00:47:00] | jonK: | commercial skipping too damn nice |
| [00:47:00] | riddlebox: | that is true |
| [00:47:00] | jonK: | but for the money , 500 has 2 tuners |
| [00:47:00] | jonK: | record two things |
| [00:47:00] | jonK: | or watch 1 and record 1 |
| [00:47:00] | riddlebox: | this is the card you recomend http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvr500mce.html |
| [00:48:00] | jonK: | I'm just pointing out differences |
| [00:48:00] | jonK: | and things to think about |
| [00:48:00] | riddlebox: | I appreciate it :) if I get the 500 will I be ok with my amd k6–2 500? |
| [00:48:00] | jonK: | as soon as i sign the hauppage endorsement deal, ill give you all the reccomendations you want |
| [00:49:00] | jonK: | dont see why not, it's still all hardware based encoding |
| [00:49:00] | riddlebox: | well they recomend like a 1.2 ghz cpu thats why I was confused |
| [00:49:00] | jonK: | who? |
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| [00:49:00] | SteveHolt: | riddlebox: that's for Windows |
| [00:50:00] | jonK: | that's what I was thinking |
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| [00:50:00] | jonK: | but maybe he's reading some myth related documents |
| [00:50:00] | riddlebox: | it was for the card, the myth docs just say you can use a lesser cpu |
| [00:50:00] | jonK: | running their sofware on win2k or xp might require more cpu hosrepower |
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| [00:51:00] | jonK: | people, what's the weakest machine you're running a hauppage card in? |
| [00:51:00] | mchou: | no, to decode you need CPU beef :) |
| [00:51:00] | mchou: | i.e. watch :) |
| [00:51:00] | jonK: | that's a damn dirty lie |
| [00:51:00] | riddlebox: | I just want to make sure before I use this thing and find out it doesnt work |
| [00:51:00] | mchou: | record only you can probably get by on Pentium 350. |
| [00:52:00] | jonK: | hell, tivo is a 50mhz ppc |
| [00:52:00] | SteveHolt: | I agree with mchou, you'll be fine |
| [00:52:00] | jonK: | iirc |
| [00:52:00] | jonK: | for playback too? |
| [00:52:00] | riddlebox: | so if I want to watch videos that I recorded will it work? |
| [00:52:00] | jonK: | do you need more? |
| [00:53:00] | mchou: | lol, tivo has a decoder asic, iirc |
| [00:54:00] | mchou: | riddlebox: I think your box may be borderline if you want to watch. |
| [00:54:00] | mchou: | if the decodes dvds w/o skipping in SW they you should be OK. |
| [00:54:00] | riddlebox: | what about 1ghz? I think I got one of those around |
| [00:54:00] | mchou: | the box* |
| [00:55:00] | mchou: | anything >=600Mh should be OK. |
| [00:55:00] | mchou: | Mhz* |
| [00:57:00] | riddlebox: | ok, I will get the other box work I guess |
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| [00:58:00] | jonK: | interesting... |
| [00:58:00] | jonK: | mythdocs do suggest a 1ghz floor for software decoding |
| [00:58:00] | jonK: | asic ==? |
| [00:59:00] | mchou: | application Specific Integrated Circuit |
| [00:59:00] | mchou: | a fancy name for a "dedicated" processor. |
| [01:00:00] | mchou: | kind of like how pvr 350 has a HW decode stage. |
| [01:01:00] | dougiel: | with one of these pvr cards can I use the hw on it to encode avi files to mpeg2? |
| [01:01:00] | mchou: | riddlebox: what is the k6 and the 1Ghz boxes used for now? |
| [01:02:00] | mchou: | dougiel: only if you play the avi back out through an analog output :) |
| [01:02:00] | riddlebox: | k6 is a backup pc that my dad uses once in a while, the 1ghz isnt running, I need ram |
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| [01:02:00] | mchou: | what does your dad use the k6 for? |
| [01:03:00] | riddlebox: | surf the internet(mapquest) lol and check his email |
| [01:03:00] | riddlebox: | I have watched avi and mpeg files on it |
| [01:03:00] | riddlebox: | and I am running linux on it |
| [01:04:00] | mchou: | on the k6? |
| [01:04:00] | riddlebox: | yes Damn Small Linux |
| [01:05:00] | mchou: | you could just use the k6 then as a backend (strictly recording) |
| [01:05:00] | mchou: | and use any other box as mythfrontend. |
| [01:06:00] | mchou: | you have linux on any other boxes at home? |
| [01:06:00] | riddlebox: | this one, and my laptop |
| [01:06:00] | mchou: | need to tell me CPU speeds on each. |
| [01:07:00] | riddlebox: | 2.4ghz on this desktop and 1.2ghz on the laptop |
| [01:08:00] | mchou: | perfect. You dont need the "other" 1 Ghz box you were talking about. |
| [01:08:00] | mchou: | just run mythfrontend on the desktop and laptop, you'd be set. |
| [01:08:00] | riddlebox: | I was wanting to play the recorded videos on my tv though |
| [01:09:00] | mchou: | so? hook up laptop to tv :) |
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| [01:09:00] | mchou: | but you get the idea. |
| [01:10:00] | riddlebox: | yeah I get it |
| [01:10:00] | jonK: | if laptop has composite/svideo out |
| [01:10:00] | riddlebox: | it does |
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| [01:12:00] | mchou: | but if the only you're missing is memory on 1 Ghz, memory is cheap these days :) |
| [01:13:00] | riddlebox: | thats kinda what I was thinking, then I have one box do everything |
| [01:13:00] | riddlebox: | and my dad can keep his dinosaur |
| [01:13:00] | mchou: | 1Ghz PC 2700 RAM==$80 :) |
| [01:13:00] | mchou: | your dad can keep his dino regardless. |
| [01:13:00] | mchou: | he runs linux on it already, you said. |
| [01:14:00] | riddlebox: | yeah, what I need to do is shut this one down and take the ram out of here to test the other pc |
| [01:14:00] | riddlebox: | yeah he runs linux on it |
| [01:16:00] | mchou: | I doubt PC2700 runs on a 1 Ghz machine. |
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| [01:16:00] | riddlebox: | I believe it is ddr ram |
| [01:16:00] | mchou: | 1Ghz machine take PC133 |
| [01:16:00] | mchou: | or PC100 |
| [01:16:00] | mchou: | not even the same number of pins. |
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| [01:17:00] | mchou: | PC133 is pricy now :) |
| [01:17:00] | riddlebox: | says ddr333 on box |
| [01:18:00] | mchou: | I dont even know what that is :) |
| [01:19:00] | mchou: | ddr333??? |
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| [01:19:00] | riddlebox: | yeah it says viakt333 ddr333 |
| [01:21:00] | mchou: | huh??? that's running a k6?? |
| [01:21:00] | mchou: | impossible. |
| [01:21:00] | riddlebox: | no |
| [01:21:00] | riddlebox: | the 1ghz |
| [01:22:00] | mchou: | oh, ok. |
| [01:22:00] | mchou: | yeah, that can take pc2700 or greater. |
| [01:24:00] | riddlebox: | ok |
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| [01:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey mchou where can I find a readme about doing the serial port connection? |
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| [01:51:00] | jonK: | I have a friend visiting me from out of state today. |
| [01:54:00] | kormoc: | jonK, so why are you on irc? |
| [01:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | FUCKIN A!!!! |
| [01:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its workin! |
| [01:55:00] | kormoc: | booya! |
| [01:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kick ass! |
| [01:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | my serial port on cablebox works |
| [01:55:00] | kormoc: | wooties! |
| [01:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ROFL!!! it shut the power off |
| [01:55:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [01:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | when it fails to send signal it shuts off the power |
| [01:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm its not working now |
| [01:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | strange |
| [01:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well restarting the computer may do it |
| [01:57:00] | safecracker: | i found my issue lol the pvr350 remote has a distaste for the PVR250 card |
| [01:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, did you know |
| [01:58:00] | kormoc: | did I know? |
| [01:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if you download mythtv source go to contrib and look in there the dct controller is in there for my cablebox!!! |
| [01:58:00] | kormoc: | ! |
| [01:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I aint bullshitting |
| [01:58:00] | kormoc: | niceness! I had no idea :) |
| [01:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeh |
| [01:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it is direct serial connection |
| [01:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and boy let me tell you finding a rs-232 9pin male to female was a BITCH! |
| [01:59:00] | kormoc: | shouldn't have been, radioshack should sell them, no? |
| [01:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats where I got it |
| [01:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | why did you not tell me before hand |
| [01:59:00] | ** SlicerDicer- farts in kormoc's general direction ** | |
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| [02:00:00] | ** kormoc makes muffled sounds and big hand gestures. ** | |
| [02:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [02:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | man this rocks |
| [02:01:00] | kormoc: | nice :) |
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| [02:03:00] | kormoc: | so SlicerDicer-, Ariel and I are likly gonna be driving right past you end of julyish. |
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| [02:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah? |
| [02:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | where you going? |
| [02:07:00] | safecracker: | Slicer you should never have issues finding a cable as you should keep 1 pf each and a gender bender around lol |
| [02:08:00] | kormoc: | Idaho, on our trip out here, we stayed in that french town place |
| [02:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [02:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | damn this rocks |
| [02:08:00] | kormoc: | it was a awesome place, and she and I are gonna go out there for a weekend :) |
| [02:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cool kormoc |
| [02:08:00] | jonK: | her flight is delayed, wont even arrive for another 1/2 hour, and then I have a car service picking her up from the airport |
| [02:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, man this is so nice with this serial cable |
| [02:09:00] | kormoc: | yeah? :) |
| [02:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hell yeah |
| [02:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am changing channels |
| [02:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its easy |
| [02:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | bang bang channel changed |
| [02:09:00] | kormoc: | nice :) |
| [02:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dct-channel # ./channel --port /dev/ttyS3 272 |
| [02:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats the command I am running right now |
| [02:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and the channel changes |
| [02:10:00] | kormoc: | nice :) |
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| [02:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | My god, how did this man get elected again *sigh* |
| [02:11:00] | swim: | still going through hell to get my pvr150 working, Ive followed many howtos, including this one: http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=Haupp . . . Installation |
| [02:12:00] | swim: | when before I was getting a black sort of static screen, I now am just getting a black screen from my test.mpg |
| [02:14:00] | jonK: | slashdot just posted an article on an oreilly author building a mythtv box. From the article, though, it looks as if he's gotten as far as plugging a pair of hd3000 cards into pci slots. |
| [02:14:00] | jonK: | very impressive |
| [02:16:00] | kormoc: | hd3000's have issues... |
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| [02:18:00] | jonK: | what issues? |
| [02:19:00] | jonK: | clearly the oreilly guy was able to shove the cards into pci slots |
| [02:19:00] | jonK: | what more do you want from him? |
| [02:20:00] | kormoc: | no way to digitally extract the audio from the cards when they are hooked up to analog tv, you need to do line in. |
| [02:20:00] | kormoc: | as well as a screwed hue and contrast. |
| [02:21:00] | kormoc: | small issues, but issues none the less. |
| [02:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | man they should make adrinking game. Everytime during a bush speech you hear terror, 9/11 or especially freedom you drink |
| [02:25:00] | jonK: | if you don't toast to freedom, the terrorists have already won |
| [02:25:00] | jonK: | kodmoc: am i better off wiht the air2pc card? |
| [02:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man he's getting a lot of mileage out of it :) |
| [02:26:00] | kormoc: | jonK, depends on if you're gonna use analog for awhile or not |
| [02:26:00] | jonK: | with 5 other tuners... |
| [02:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh kormoc also I was told I would need my data port activated on the back of my cablebox |
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| [02:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well every cablebox has it activated from comcast apparently |
| [02:27:00] | kormoc: | if it's digital only, it's grand jonK. just don't use it for analog and you'll be fine with it. |
| [02:27:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, hrm, odd.. |
| [02:28:00] | kormoc: | welp, I'll be back in say, 15 min |
| [02:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, I got to talk to a tech today |
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| [02:28:00] | kormoc: | yeah? |
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| [02:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah it was pretty funny |
| [02:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | he called 10+ people about the issue |
| [02:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | calling the people who do the firmware and everything |
| [02:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I did as mchou said and overloaded the person at the counter with techno babble that was pointless and she got a tech for me lol |
| [02:30:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: dont let me say I told you so :) |
| [02:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [02:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but I did not need the port activated |
| [02:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it was already active |
| [02:31:00] | mchou: | a little "social engineering" goes a long way. |
| [02:31:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [02:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
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| [02:31:00] | ** kormoc waves and will be back in 15 or so ** | |
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| [02:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, I am glad that I took your advice though |
| [02:33:00] | mchou: | heh, dont thank me until you got it working :) |
| [02:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | you must have missed my comments |
| [02:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its been working for over a hour |
| [02:33:00] | mchou: | wow, nice. |
| [02:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I got it working inside 15 mins |
| [02:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and only reason I did not get it faster is cause I was unaware that the channel changer was in mythtv source |
| [02:34:00] | mchou: | heh, I told ya :) |
| [02:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | check contrib/dct-channel or whatever |
| [02:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | there is a controller in there for it |
| [02:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | wham bam easy |
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| [02:34:00] | mchou: | yeah, much easier than lirc/blaster. |
| [02:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hell yeah |
| [02:35:00] | riddlebox: | mchou:thanks for the advice |
| [02:35:00] | mchou: | riddlebox: have fun. |
| [02:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, I am glad that I listened to you though |
| [02:35:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [02:35:00] | riddlebox: | I just found out that my other machine doesnt boot, guess I will have to get new motherboard too |
| [02:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, question though why does nothing really exist about the channel changer being there? |
| [02:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I searched google and the article i found on it was old |
| [02:36:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: huh?? |
| [02:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well mythtv source |
| [02:37:00] | mchou: | I thought it's in myth docs. |
| [02:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | maybe it is and I am being a moron |
| [02:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | google did not detect it in mythtv docs as other things I have searched for |
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| [02:41:00] | swim: | is it at all possible that my pvr150 doesnt like the rest of my hardware and thus isnt working? because although id rather not, I do have another system I could try on |
| [02:41:00] | jonK: | swim were we trying this yesterday? |
| [02:42:00] | swim: | jonK, oh yes |
| [02:42:00] | jonK: | is dmesg still reporting the wrong tuner? |
| [02:42:00] | jonK: | or, unable to report any tuner really |
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| [02:44:00] | swim: | jonK, http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=6903 |
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| [02:45:00] | ** cyberknet wonders where kormoc is ** | |
| [02:45:00] | swim: | it shows pvr 250 a couple of times |
| [02:46:00] | jonK: | line 37, may have a firmware issue |
| [02:46:00] | jonK: | also why tuner type 39, are you setting this as a parameter? |
| [02:46:00] | swim: | no Im not |
| [02:47:00] | jonK: | try setting manually to 50 (based on line 21) or 57 |
| [02:47:00] | mchou: | swim: this one is easy. |
| [02:47:00] | swim: | really? :) easy is good |
| [02:47:00] | mchou: | you need to modify ivtv code. |
| [02:48:00] | swim: | ok |
| [02:48:00] | mchou: | Unknown card: vendor/device: 4444/0016, subsystem vendor/device: 0070/0003 |
| [02:48:00] | jonK: | oh i see |
| [02:48:00] | jonK: | line 7 |
| [02:48:00] | jonK: | can't you pass a cardtype paramter to ivtv? |
| [02:49:00] | jonK: | cardtype = 6? rngs a bell for some reason |
| [02:49:00] | mchou: | you need to add options ivtv cardtype=6 tuner=50 |
| [02:49:00] | jonK: | lol, i started at thhe bottom of dmesg and worked up |
| [02:49:00] | jonK: | (found tuner =50) you started at the top |
| [02:50:00] | mchou: | that might not work though. |
| [02:50:00] | mchou: | so you need to change ivtv code. |
| [02:50:00] | mchou: | which is pretty easy. |
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| [02:51:00] | swim: | do I need to reboot to check if the option works? |
| [02:52:00] | jonK: | rmmod and remod |
| [02:52:00] | jonK: | check last line of dmesg for starters (does it say pvr-150 or pvr250) |
| [02:53:00] | swim: | 150! hmm back to static from black screen though |
| [02:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey mchou you here? |
| [02:54:00] | mchou: | maybe. |
| [02:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe I got a question for ya I got my channel changer app copied to the location I wanted well I put that into the "external channel change command" of mythsetup to change the channel well... I cant seem to get it to change the channels |
| [02:55:00] | swim: | hmm now dmesg shows this: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=6904 |
| [02:55:00] | jonK: | post whole dmesg .. and mchou? the code change? |
| [02:56:00] | swim: | should I just try rebooting? |
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| [02:57:00] | jonK: | mchou? |
| [02:57:00] | jonK: | no need to reboot |
| [02:57:00] | jonK: | appears good, other than "firmware may be buggy" |
| [02:57:00] | swim: | ok Ill try the firmware from the cd then |
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| [02:58:00] | cyberknet: | hey xris |
| [02:58:00] | xris: | heya |
| [02:58:00] | cyberknet: | you know if kormoc is gonna be around tonight? |
| [02:59:00] | xris: | shows as online in aim |
| [02:59:00] | kormoc: | cyberknet, I think I likly will be around, aye |
| [02:59:00] | xris: | but no clue |
| [02:59:00] | xris: | lol |
| [02:59:00] | cyberknet: | whoops =) |
| [02:59:00] | cyberknet: | missed that join =) |
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| [02:59:00] | kormoc: | :P |
| [02:59:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: sorry, no idea. |
| [03:00:00] | cyberknet: | you guys get to work at the same time, get on irc from home at the same time .... its uncanny =) |
| [03:00:00] | xris: | that's odd. I left work almost an hour late today. |
| [03:00:00] | xris: | silly weekly managers meetings. |
| [03:00:00] | xris: | and kormoc is usually 20 minutes late every day. ;) |
| [03:00:00] | cyberknet: | kormoc: my signal is split a few too many times at the moment. there's a little static on the captures I made for you. |
| [03:00:00] | swim: | do I need to have a ivtv-fw-dec.bin in /lib/modules? because I dont |
| [03:00:00] | ** kormoc looks around and whisling. ** | |
| [03:00:00] | jonK: | i don |
| [03:01:00] | swim: | k |
| [03:01:00] | kormoc: | xris, it was funny, I was 20 min early yesterday and you wern't there to see it :P |
| [03:01:00] | jonK: | don't think so |
| [03:01:00] | xris: | heh |
| [03:01:00] | cyberknet: | kormoc: give me aminute nd I'll host them for you and you can download them (10mb each) |
| [03:01:00] | xris: | well, you do stay late, so I don't care beyond that. |
| [03:01:00] | kormoc: | yeah, which is grand :P |
| [03:02:00] | kormoc: | cyberknet, host them? |
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| [03:04:00] | swim: | still getting static :[ |
| [03:05:00] | swim: | only static |
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| [03:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well drat I cant seem to figure out how to get mythtv to use the channel changer lol |
| [03:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I can get it to manually do it by passing '/usr/bin/dct-channel/channel --port /dev/ttyS3 foochannel' but when I try to get mythtv to use it well... it wont use it :/ |
| [03:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anybody familar with how to do external channel change commands? |
| [03:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am looking at mythtv documentation but its not making for a whole lot of help on this subject under the imput connections spot |
| [03:12:00] | cyberknet: | bbiaf, rebooting to an older driver |
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| [03:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well drat.... |
| [03:13:00] | kormoc: | icky :/ |
| [03:13:00] | swim: | at least youve got your card working |
| [03:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | swim, its rather simple actually for the pvr-350 |
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| [03:15:00] | xris: | stupid fedora maintenance |
| [03:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hi xris |
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| [03:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | are you familar with external channel change commands? |
| [03:16:00] | xris: | somewhat |
| [03:16:00] | xris: | meaning that I have one |
| [03:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe whats the syntax you use? |
| [03:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have /usr/bin/dct-channel/channel --port /dev/ttyS3 |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | what do you mean? you put the name of the script into the myth config. |
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| [03:17:00] | xris: | then myth adds " 123" at the end of that |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | or whatever. |
| [03:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm |
| [03:18:00] | xris: | I only have one so it's just /usr/local/bin/dish_chan.sh |
| [03:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm maybe I need to make it so --port /dev/ttyS3 i not needed? |
| [03:19:00] | xris: | dunno |
| [03:19:00] | xris: | that'd be something to try, though. |
| [03:20:00] | swim: | here is my current init.ivtv: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=6905 Im still getting only static from the device |
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| [03:32:00] | swim: | I rebooted, and dmesg still looks good, but again I just get a silent black screen instead of static |
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| [03:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | damn this serial cable thing is awesome |
| [03:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, if my cablebox is off for some reason it will power it up and change the channel |
| [03:36:00] | iggy: | swim: tried playing the video's back on another box? |
| [03:37:00] | swim: | iggy, no, but I have tried playing random video Ive gotten off the net and videos play fine |
| [03:38:00] | xris: | man, yum is stupid. |
| [03:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
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| [03:40:00] | swim2: | this is what I have in /etc/mythtv/modules/ivtv : |
| [03:41:00] | swim2: | alias char-major-81 videodev alias char-major-81–0 ivt alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c options ivtv cardtype=6 tuner=50 ivtv_debug=1 options msp3400 once=1 simple=1 install ivtv /sbin/modprobe tuner; /sbin/modprobe msp3400; /sbin/modprobe saa7115; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install ivtv remove ivtv /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove ivtv && /sbin/modprobe -r saa7115 && /sbin/modprobe -r msp3400 && /sbin/modprobe -r tuner |
| [03:42:00] | swim: | is that correct? |
| [03:42:00] | iggy: | no |
| [03:42:00] | iggy: | half that stuff is for pvr250/350's |
| [03:42:00] | swim: | ok I got it all off of a 150 wiki... |
| [03:42:00] | iggy: | you _should_ only need the alias lines |
| [03:42:00] | swim: | ok |
| [03:42:00] | iggy: | "a 150 wiki"? |
| [03:43:00] | iggy: | in any case, it's wrong |
| [03:43:00] | swim: | http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=Haupp . . . Installation |
| [03:43:00] | iggy: | okay, doesn't matter where you got it, it's wrong |
| [03:44:00] | swim: | if I dont use the options ivtv cardtype=6 tuner=50 dmesg sees it as a 250 card |
| [03:44:00] | swim: | mchou, recommended that line |
| [03:44:00] | swim: | iggy, so comment everything else out? load lines as well? |
| [03:45:00] | iggy: | using a recent version of ivtv should fall back to a 150 by default, I'd be suspicious |
| [03:45:00] | swim: | im using 0.3.6r |
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| [03:48:00] | swim: | any suggestions to fix this? |
| [03:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, I got it! |
| [03:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yay yay yay yay yay yay yay |
| [03:49:00] | banyan: | Any myth users using ivtv cards on FC4? |
| [03:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | whats the problem banyan |
| [03:49:00] | xris: | not yet, no |
| [03:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, I got it working |
| [03:49:00] | banyan: | thinking of upgrading from fc3 but i wanna know if there will be hassles. |
| [03:50:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: cool. I'm just not about to upgrade a stable mythbox. heh. |
| [03:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, '/etc/init.d/mythbackend restart' did wonders |
| [03:50:00] | xris: | heh |
| [03:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, I hear ya |
| [03:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats why I dont upgrade my kernels or nothing hardly ever unless security is a issue |
| [03:50:00] | banyan: | just don't want to spend too long behind the times... last time i did that, i had to reformat my / and reinstall. |
| [03:51:00] | xris: | banyan: I know how that feels. just did that to fc3 a couple of months ago |
| [03:51:00] | banyan: | to fc3?? why? or, do u mean that u installed fc3 from an old version? |
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| [03:52:00] | swim: | what a disaster! |
| [03:53:00] | swim: | two days and much help later, still nothing from my pvr150! |
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| [03:54:00] | xris: | swim: :( |
| [03:54:00] | banyan: | heh, ok, i gotta share this... a comedian talking about the "cool" new starwars cell phone u can get. she says, "Finally, now the nerds can get a stylish phone to *NOT* talk to their *NO* friends on." |
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| [03:55:00] | banyan: | swim, is that an ivtv card? |
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| [03:56:00] | swim: | yes |
| [03:56:00] | swim: | its a pvr-150 |
| [03:56:00] | TummyAcid: | anyone here use knoppmyth? |
| [03:56:00] | banyan: | hm, what does ur /var/log/messages say when the module gets loaded? |
| [03:57:00] | swim: | it looks great |
| [03:57:00] | xris: | banyan: the sad thing about that is that geek is "in" (and has been for several years)... it's just not funny anymore. |
| [03:58:00] | swim: | here is my current init.ivtv: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=6905 Im still getting only static from the device |
| [03:58:00] | banyan: | ok, so u do get a picture but it's static. |
| [03:58:00] | swim: | no |
| [03:59:00] | swim: | I get static for picture and sound |
| [03:59:00] | xris: | swim: so like he said, you get a picture, but it's static. |
| [03:59:00] | banyan: | that's what i meant. sounds like u aren't tuning. |
| [03:59:00] | xris: | as opposed to getting no mpeg output at all. |
| [03:59:00] | xris: | swim: have you messed with ivtvctl? |
| [03:59:00] | TummyAcid: | has anyone here used knoppmyth to install a linux base system with mythtv? my install proceeds fine then refuses to boot afterwards |
| [03:59:00] | swim: | oddly occasionally i get just a black screen with no audio or even static |
| [04:00:00] | banyan: | can u pastebin ur /var/log/messages between the ==start ivtv init== and the ==end ivtv init==? |
| [04:00:00] | swim: | TummyAcid, start install again, and remove all partitions on drive, and then reinstall |
| [04:00:00] | banyan: | tummy, what exactly happens when u boot? |
| [04:00:00] | TummyAcid: | i thought that was done the first time |
| [04:00:00] | swim: | I did banyan |
| [04:00:00] | swim: | you have to do it again |
| [04:00:00] | TummyAcid: | it gets to the part where it checks the cdrom for boot media |
| [04:01:00] | TummyAcid: | then it freezes |
| [04:01:00] | swim: | http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=6905 |
| [04:01:00] | TummyAcid: | and stays frozen |
| [04:01:00] | banyan: | oh, ok |
| [04:01:00] | swim: | did you have a windows partition on there prior to install? |
| [04:01:00] | swim: | or bsd or something |
| [04:01:00] | TummyAcid: | yes i did have a windows |
| [04:01:00] | swim: | thats why |
| [04:02:00] | swim: | do as I suggested |
| [04:02:00] | TummyAcid: | good to hear |
| [04:02:00] | TummyAcid: | ok so can i use the fdisk that comes on the knoppmyth disk? |
| [04:02:00] | swim: | yes thats fine, however you want to do it |
| [04:03:00] | TummyAcid: | awesome one of my favorite pasttimes is removing all traces of windows |
| [04:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | god thats a gross name man |
| [04:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | TummyAcid, what the hell.... terrible name |
| [04:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | may as well be bile or something :P |
| [04:05:00] | banyan: | u know, this reminds me of something i had to manually change from my fc3 installation. |
| [04:05:00] | swim: | it looks good though doesnt it |
| [04:06:00] | swim: | it just refuses to act well |
| [04:07:00] | banyan: | i had to change my /boot/grub/menu.lst file by hand because it had the wrong root= line. |
| [04:07:00] | TummyAcid: | ok i have removed all partitions on the drive |
| [04:07:00] | TummyAcid: | should i reboot with 4.1 billion bytes of unformatted space? |
| [04:08:00] | TummyAcid: | or should i setup some kind of partitions |
| [04:08:00] | swim: | you can just start the install normally if you want autoinstall or whatever |
| [04:08:00] | TummyAcid: | err that 40.1 billion |
| [04:08:00] | TummyAcid: | i just want it to boot honestly |
| [04:09:00] | swim: | you need to install it again now |
| [04:09:00] | TummyAcid: | i showed up at my friend's house with the cd and i was like lemme at your capturecard machine |
| [04:09:00] | TummyAcid: | ok |
| [04:10:00] | TummyAcid: | thanx |
| [04:15:00] | banyan: | it might be a good idea to do a couple of partitions. one for /boot, one for /, one for /home? |
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| [04:15:00] | banyan: | hmm, swim, can u do an ivtvctl -a? |
| [04:16:00] | swim2: | yes |
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| [04:17:00] | swim2: | banyan: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=6906 |
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| [04:19:00] | banyan: | what about setting the input to svideo or composite and trying a dvd as input? |
| [04:20:00] | swim: | i dont have a dvd player |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | lol, ioctl VIDIOC_G_FREQUENCY ok |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | Frequency = 0 |
| [04:20:00] | swim: | but I have tried composite, at least i think i did |
| [04:20:00] | banyan: | hey, actually, does anybody have an old style (like mid '90s) ati all-in-wonder working? |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | that's why you get static. |
| [04:20:00] | banyan: | there's an ivtvctl command to get the card to switch to the composite input. |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | swim: read the docs. |
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| [04:21:00] | swim: | I have |
| [04:21:00] | mchou: | swim: how many times we have to tell you this? |
| [04:21:00] | swim: | I have many many times read the docs |
| [04:21:00] | swim: | I have not seen anything in what ive read that relates to those lines you pasted |
| [04:21:00] | mchou: | swim: then the only conclusion is you have no reading comprehension. |
| [04:22:00] | mchou: | ok, then you're blind. |
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| [04:23:00] | swim: | what doc has that information? |
| [04:23:00] | banyan: | try ivtvctl -r 5204 |
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| [04:24:00] | banyan: | and to set your input to composite, do ivtvctl -p 0 |
| [04:25:00] | banyan: | do those old ati all in wonders work at all? |
| [04:26:00] | banyan: | I have one and it'd be cool to use it if there was a working driver. |
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| [04:29:00] | safecracker: | ati cards can be real whores to get working its best to avoid em |
| [04:29:00] | swim: | banyan, where did you get that frequency? |
| [04:29:00] | swim: | it didnt work but... |
| [04:29:00] | mchou: | lol, and when aiw have been documented not to work with myth :) |
| [04:29:00] | banyan: | i got it from my card. |
| [04:30:00] | banyan: | don't know what channel it corresponds to. |
| [04:30:00] | banyan: | i think i might actually take the plunge and make this computer a dedicated backend, and buy a nice shiny new pc for a frontend. |
| [04:30:00] | swim2: | what card is that? |
| [04:31:00] | banyan: | mchou, i know it was at one point documented to not work but i was hoping that might have changed since. |
| [04:31:00] | banyan: | a 10 year old all in wonder card. |
| [04:31:00] | swim2: | hmm still getting statick |
| [04:32:00] | safecracker: | minus the k |
| [04:32:00] | banyan: | swim, what channel do you expect that you should receive? |
| [04:32:00] | mchou: | banyan: I think hope springs eternal. |
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| [04:32:00] | TummyAcid: | alright |
| [04:32:00] | TummyAcid: | belive it or not it works now |
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| [04:32:00] | banyan: | it's such an old card, and i've had good enough luck with the pvr-350 if I was going to do another card i'd buy a 250. |
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| [04:33:00] | TummyAcid: | i have no internet connection right now, can i still watch tv? |
| [04:33:00] | mchou: | banyan: if no one has developed linux drivers for it for 10 yrs, you can pretty much safely say it's dead. |
| [04:33:00] | safecracker: | tummy yes |
| [04:33:00] | swim2: | banyan: I have no idea |
| [04:33:00] | TummyAcid: | well if i try to it goes black |
| [04:33:00] | banyan: | i know at one point i did get a picture out of it with some experimental program. |
| [04:34:00] | safecracker: | are you using the correct input try to cycle through using C |
| [04:34:00] | banyan: | swim, i mean which tv channels should u be able to get? |
| [04:34:00] | swim: | its hooked up to video so it would be channel 3 i guess |
| [04:34:00] | banyan: | like channel 2, or channel 6... i'll tune that channel in and tell u the frequency #. |
| [04:34:00] | mchou: | what a dumbass. |
| [04:35:00] | TummyAcid: | ok hold on ill try that |
| [04:36:00] | swim: | yes I guess I might be, but its not like youve said anything helpful like: hey why dont you read this: ... |
| [04:36:00] | swim: | you just say you have to read docs, and I have to guess which docs those are |
| [04:36:00] | mchou: | I did, many times last night. |
| [04:36:00] | banyan: | frequency for channel 3 is 980 |
| [04:36:00] | mchou: | all the docs are in ivtv source tree. |
| [04:36:00] | banyan: | and tuner is input 4. ivtvctl -p 4 |
| [04:36:00] | mchou: | pretty much all you need. |
| [04:37:00] | banyan: | and there's some tuner perl script in there too. |
| [04:37:00] | banyan: | iirc |
| [04:37:00] | mchou: | exactly. |
| [04:37:00] | ** briand waves 'hello' to mchou ** | |
| [04:37:00] | TummyAcid: | ok |
| [04:37:00] | mchou: | hi briand |
| [04:37:00] | TummyAcid: | i pressed c and C |
| [04:37:00] | TummyAcid: | no change |
| [04:38:00] | TummyAcid: | how can iback out to the screen with the choices |
| [04:38:00] | briand: | [esc] on the keyboard, or whatever key you assigned that function to with your remote. |
| [04:39:00] | TummyAcid: | still black screen |
| [04:39:00] | safecracker: | are u using svideo or compisite |
| [04:39:00] | banyan: | is there any particular requirement for an lirc infrared transmitter? would one of those generic infrared serial thingies control a motorola cable box? |
| [04:39:00] | TummyAcid: | actually imjust using my monitor |
| [04:40:00] | mchou: | banyan: look it up on the lirc.org web site. (compatible HW) |
| [04:40:00] | briand: | banyan: the "infrared serial thingies" (as you put it) do nothing more than light when you tell them, and not light when you tell them. |
| [04:40:00] | safecracker: | tummy is the issue just with trying to watch tv? |
| [04:40:00] | briand: | banyan: in other words, you need to program how to flash whatever needs to be flashed thru the IR to properly control whatever it is you're trying to control. |
| [04:40:00] | mchou: | what are they generic ir "thingies?" |
| [04:40:00] | TummyAcid: | yes |
| [04:40:00] | banyan: | i saw one in the computer store that advertised being able to do up to 115200 baud |
| [04:40:00] | TummyAcid: | i just wanna verify my tv tuner card works |
| [04:40:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [04:41:00] | banyan: | i think it's compatible with things like laptop infrareds and palm pilots. |
| [04:41:00] | mchou: | banyan: those definitely won't work |
| [04:42:00] | briand: | mchou: not so funny... they're probably only trying to say (in a roundabout, advertising way) that you can talk to it at any serial rate... not necessarily that it'll transmit at rates that high. |
| [04:42:00] | mchou: | pulse width and frequency and whatnot are all wrong. |
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| [04:43:00] | mchou: | there is a big difference betw. IR and IrDA :) |
| [04:43:00] | banyan: | so the infrared signals don't conform to a specific set bit rate, data bits, stop bits kind of regime? |
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| [04:44:00] | briand: | some do, banyan... but most use PWM (pulse width modulation) to activate the IR beam. |
| [04:44:00] | banyan: | hm, i'll dig around. not too worried about it at this moment. |
| [04:45:00] | banyan: | my cable company has helpfully disabled the serial port on the box, out of fear of being hacked I guess... |
| [04:46:00] | mchou: | banyan: ask SlicerDicer- about his experience today :) |
| [04:46:00] | banyan: | oh, really! how so? |
| [04:46:00] | briand: | banyan: are you sure that cable box can be controlled (vs. programmed) via that serial port, anyway? |
| [04:46:00] | mchou: | or just refer to the irc log |
| [04:46:00] | safecracker: | tummyacid did you follow http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html especially input connections |
| [04:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what box banyan? |
| [04:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh whoops I am eating call back later :P |
| [04:47:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [04:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nah what cablebox? |
| [04:47:00] | banyan: | the motorola hd box. |
| [04:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | err.... |
| [04:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | not the dct2244? |
| [04:48:00] | TummyAcid: | i dont think i followed any howto how do i get back tot he screen with sources and input and all that? |
| [04:50:00] | banyan: | it's a dct... firmware 08.12 |
| [04:50:00] | banyan: | s/w version 70.51... |
| [04:50:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: tell banyan about "social engineering" |
| [04:50:00] | banyan: | lol, that and a dollar will get me a bus ticket downtown. |
| [04:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what dct though |
| [04:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I need to know what model |
| [04:51:00] | banyan: | 6200/1000 |
| [04:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | your fucked |
| [04:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sorry |
| [04:51:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [04:51:00] | banyan: | lol, i already kinda figured that. |
| [04:51:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [04:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | get a 'dct-2244 L' |
| [04:51:00] | mchou: | classic |
| [04:51:00] | banyan: | the 2244 is the old black kind? |
| [04:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | they will be like woah how did you know the "L" |
| [04:52:00] | banyan: | i have another non-hd one. |
| [04:52:00] | banyan: | What does the l mean? |
| [04:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its the one that is related to tivo = serial port active |
| [04:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | brb killing my internet |
| [04:54:00] | TummyAcid: | how can i reconfigure the video sources and inputs and other stuff? it takes me to 'watch tv' screen right away now |
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| [05:02:00] | TummyAcid: | ok i think i konw\ |
| [05:02:00] | TummyAcid: | thanx for the info guys |
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| [05:03:00] | RancidLM: | hey all |
| [05:03:00] | banyan: | ah, mine's a 2224, just a plain 2224. |
| [05:03:00] | mchou: | a plain 2244 should work |
| [05:03:00] | RancidLM: | i wanna get myth tv working but im using a ati vidcard and can't get xorg to display to my tv.. i have no idea how to set my composite out :( |
| [05:04:00] | banyan: | so, what's all this about social engineering vis a vis the motorolas? |
| [05:04:00] | mchou: | banyan: I think some social engineering is in order. |
| [05:04:00] | RancidLM: | does any one know how composite out works on a rage128 ati card ? |
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| [05:06:00] | xris: | RancidLM: ati drivers in linux are generally subpar. |
| [05:06:00] | CyberKnet: | please note that the b in subpar is intentional, this is not some 'leet form of "super" |
| [05:06:00] | CyberKnet: | =P" |
| [05:07:00] | mchou: | banyan: look here: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/index.php?date=2005-06-28 |
| [05:07:00] | mchou: | banyan: [20:55] |
| [05:07:00] | RancidLM: | xris: ya.. im just wounderin cuz iv seen guids on gettin nvidia composite out working good..just no docs any where on ati |
| [05:08:00] | mchou: | banyan: and [21:29] |
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| [05:09:00] | abarbaccia: | everybody look at my cool site www.abarbaccia.com --- its going to be an ubuntu myth guide |
| [05:10:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: you around? |
| [05:11:00] | abarbaccia: | goodnite all |
| [05:11:00] | mchou: | xris: ati drivers in windows are subpar too :) |
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| [05:11:00] | mchou: | ati and software dont seem to mix too well. |
| [05:12:00] | jedix: | neither does ati and water |
| [05:12:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, hihi? |
| [05:12:00] | mchou: | jedix: heh, water cooling got outta hane? |
| [05:12:00] | mchou: | hand* |
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| [05:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | mchou: Am now |
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| [05:15:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: so it the MVP any good? It's on sale here for $60. |
| [05:15:00] | mchou: | I mean as far as myth goes. |
| [05:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Works great for me, and the tvout quality is really good |
| [05:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | just be forwarned, it's not like running a full mythfrontend on it :) |
| [05:16:00] | mchou: | yeah, gotcha. |
| [05:16:00] | mchou: | what firmware you using on it? |
| [05:17:00] | mchou: | or netboot image.... |
| [05:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's more what bootimage as it tftp's the boot image at bootup and |
| [05:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I'm running the latest snapshot of mvpmc |
| [05:17:00] | mchou: | does that work with myth 18.x? |
| [05:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | yuppers |
| [05:18:00] | mchou: | ok, at $60 I might have to try it out. |
| [05:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was running the cvs version of it but haven't bothered since the last system rebuild I did |
| [05:19:00] | mchou: | can you ff thru commercials on that thing? |
| [05:19:00] | mchou: | while using myth, that is. |
| [05:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, it supports ff therefore you can ff through commercials :) |
| [05:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or are you talking about autoskipping commercials ? |
| [05:20:00] | mchou: | nah, ff |
| [05:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | ff is not a problem |
| [05:20:00] | mchou: | autoskip is a backend function, no? |
| [05:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | no It's a frontend thing |
| [05:20:00] | mchou: | ok. right now only concerned w/ff. |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | but good to know a/s is not supported right now. |
| [05:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | You have the option of playing back via the myth protocol or via nfs |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | prefer myth proto if possible :) |
| [05:22:00] | mchou: | nfs is ok, but doesnt have "advanced" features. |
| [05:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | *shrug* Makes no difference really other than just not nfs mounting |
| [05:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Define advanced :) |
| [05:22:00] | mchou: | like a/s would be part of myth proto, not nfs :) |
| [05:23:00] | mchou: | even thought that doesnt work "right now" |
| [05:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't thinks so, though I could very well be wrong |
| [05:23:00] | mchou: | though* |
| [05:24:00] | mchou: | I mean it's goota, cause it has to load the skip list, no? |
| [05:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | The mythfrontend loads the cut list, the backend feeds what the frontend asks for |
| [05:24:00] | mchou: | gotta* |
| [05:28:00] | TummyAcid: | alright when i go to 'video input' it gets me cannot open /dev/video0 |
| [05:29:00] | TummyAcid: | seg fault |
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| [05:33:00] | TummyAcid: | what kind of drivers do i use with ati tv wonder pro? |
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| [05:35:00] | bbeattie: | Anyone know if it's even possible to get nuv2disc to work with a frontend? regardless what I set in the nuv2disc.sh file for db connection, upon starting nuv2disc it says it can not connect to the backend.. plus it wants nuv files to be in /myth/tv? I sym linked that to where they actually are |
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| [05:58:00] | swim: | ok Ive read the docs in ivtv/docs/* and setup accordingly my pvr-150. When attempting to view capture all I see is static. |
| [05:59:00] | Atamido: | That happenned to me, but I had just plugged the wrong cable in. :P |
| [05:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey guys is there a way to get a remote to launch mythfrontend? |
| [05:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | when it crashes and no mouse is connected to it there is a problem hehe |
| [05:59:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: mouse? |
| [05:59:00] | Atamido: | Well, actually before that I needed to update to a later 0.3.x build that supported my PVR-150 card. |
| [05:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, no mouse |
| [05:59:00] | Cardoe: | why do you need a mouse? |
| [06:00:00] | swim: | i have updated to the latest version, and I have the cable plugged in to the correct location |
| [06:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sorry was thinking two things at once |
| [06:00:00] | swim: | whooo! |
| [06:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well anyway is there anyway to set it up to where mythfrontend can be launched by pushing the powerbutton on my hauppauge? |
| [06:00:00] | swim: | video... not pretty but ive got some |
| [06:00:00] | swim: | thank the lord |
| [06:01:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: if you really want. |
| [06:01:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: why not have crontab make sure it's running? |
| [06:01:00] | Cardoe: | if not start it? |
| [06:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | umm... |
| [06:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | there is no way to do it otherwise? |
| [06:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know how to do the crontab thing |
| [06:02:00] | swim: | hmm video is quite ugly though, like it needs serious tracking |
| [06:02:00] | Atamido: | swim: I also had a problem of having an old copy of IVTV on the system somewhere that it was loading an old module from. That gave me some black and white video... |
| [06:02:00] | swim: | I already made sure there are no duplicates anywhere |
| [06:02:00] | swim: | ive been doing this for two days... |
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| [06:07:00] | swim: | i have video working now... but it looks like it needs tracking really bad... |
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| [06:08:00] | gnoob: | working for 2 days and you already have video. You are moving right along. |
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| [06:09:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: almost got those captures for you buddy. |
| [06:09:00] | swim: | gnoob, heh I thought that was ridiculously long to get it up |
| [06:10:00] | gnoob: | well for someone like me it would take at least that long. |
| [06:11:00] | swim: | i think my problem was just one small stupid one |
| [06:11:00] | gnoob: | what was it? |
| [06:11:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: hang on |
| [06:11:00] | swim: | Im not positive but I think I just wasnt setting the right channel |
| [06:11:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: what user do you run mythfrontend as? |
| [06:11:00] | swim: | the right way |
| [06:16:00] | swim: | fn |
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| [06:17:00] | swim: | mchou, are there any good docs for setting up remote? |
| [06:21:00] | Atamido: | I went about 5 days before I had watchable video. |
| [06:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | umm |
| [06:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just a user I made |
| [06:23:00] | Atamido: | I actually had Bryan SSH to my system to tell me I had the wrong cable connected. :-\ |
| [06:23:00] | ** Atamido wonders if the wonderful BryanM is in this channel. ** | |
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| [06:27:00] | laga: | Atamido: /who |
| [06:29:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/files/runmythfe |
| [06:29:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: download it |
| [06:29:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: put it in that user's home directory |
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| [06:32:00] | TimmyJ: | anyone know if mythTV 17.3 will work w/ a pvr-150? |
| [06:33:00] | TimmyJ: | .17–3** |
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| [06:40:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: you there? |
| [06:44:00] | swim: | hmm has anyone gotten their remotes to show some output in irw? |
| [06:44:00] | swim: | im getting none |
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| [07:13:00] | CyberKnet: | adios people |
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| [07:24:00] | TimmyJ: | Would it be possible to run knoppmyth through xen?? |
| [07:24:00] | batdog is now known as batdog|gone | |
| [07:27:00] | topping: | http://www.freestarmedia.com/hotellostliberty2.html |
| [07:27:00] | topping: | hahaha |
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| [07:37:00] | swim: | program guide is empty... during mythtv-setup I had set it up for zap2it... |
| [07:38:00] | gnoob: | what's xen? |
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| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | laga: alive? |
| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | anyone alive? |
| [07:51:00] | Agrajag-: | nup |
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| [07:54:00] | swim: | hey how do you get program guide to show stuff? |
| [07:54:00] | Agrajag-: | you put stuff in it |
| [07:55:00] | swim: | i thought that thats what zap2it dide |
| [07:55:00] | swim: | did |
| [07:56:00] | Agrajag-: | dunno i dont use zap2it.. but im sure if you configure it correctly and run mythfilldatabase properly then it will work |
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| [08:19:00] | topping: | anyone seen the mac .dmg around lately? |
| [08:23:00] | topping: | is there a 0.18 dmg? |
| [08:23:00] | topping: | yikes, that would suxor |
| [08:23:00] | topping: | ah there it is |
| [08:23:00] | topping: | mythtv.info |
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| [08:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, you here? |
| [08:45:00] | kormoc: | hihi |
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| [08:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Setup_MythTV#KDM |
| [08:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | look at my addition |
| [08:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | can you clean it up better? |
| [08:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I suck at doing that stuff |
| [08:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | least its on paper though |
| [08:49:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [08:49:00] | ** kormoc peers at it ** | |
| [08:49:00] | kormoc: | what's the part you edited? |
| [08:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | umm do a diff |
| [08:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | on history |
| [08:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/index.php?title=HARDWA . . . ;oldid=25041 |
| [08:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats what I did |
| [08:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | damn it... I am trying to match the mythtv program data to my bloody clock |
| [08:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | wtf.... |
| [09:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is there a way to dump all my program data? |
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| [09:13:00] | Cardoe: | This is why I hate Wiki's |
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| [09:37:00] | chris: | What's the easiest way to change mythtv video to divx? |
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| [10:09:00] | Lathiat: | Hi Guys — does anyone know what version o fnvidia drivers will compile against 2.6.10 and have workign tvout with a "riva tnt" (not a tnt2, asus one) |
| [10:09:00] | Lathiat: | i can get it working with vesa but no Xv, nv doesnt show up and nvidai doesnt show up either with ConnectedMonitor TV etc |
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| [10:22:00] | chris: | Lathiat: What's your video card? |
| [10:22:00] | Lathiat: | chris: asus riva tnt agp |
| [10:23:00] | chris: | Lathiat: that may be in the legacy nvidia driver now. |
| [10:23:00] | Lathiat: | yeh im fairly sure it is |
| [10:23:00] | Lathiat: | so whats that, 6629? |
| [10:23:00] | chris: | yup |
| [10:23:00] | Lathiat: | ok |
| [10:23:00] | Lathiat: | does that compile with 2.6.110? |
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| [10:23:00] | chris: | under gentoo that nvidia kernel 6229 -r4 |
| [10:23:00] | Lathiat: | .10 |
| [10:23:00] | chris: | and nvidia-glx 6229 r6 |
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| [10:24:00] | Lathiat: | welli dont run gentoo :) |
| [10:24:00] | Lathiat: | but ok |
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| [10:24:00] | chris: | How do I convert easily to XViD from the .nuv files? |
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| [10:44:00] | MonMotha: | ok, I have a PVR-150 and it seems to be working save the tuner (which Hauppage seems to change daily). I get static for audio and video no matter where I tell mythtv to attempt to tune. Unfortunately I can't find the ivtv perl module (where is it) to attempt to use ptune to tune the card manually |
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| [10:45:00] | MonMotha: | ok, or maybe Im' not even getting that anymore.... |
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| [11:13:00] | caskey: | Is there any hardware that will enable me too make use of my tv's dedicated (3 BNC) 1080i inputs for video display? |
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| [11:29:00] | MonMotha: | caskey: yes, though if your tv has DVI that's a much better option |
| [11:29:00] | MonMotha: | will your TV take RGB or is it YCbCr only? |
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| [11:51:00] | caskey: | It's an older sony hd wega, and it has a 'mysterious' input that is similar size to a dvi, but it has YCbCr jacks labeled "1080i ONLY" |
| [11:56:00] | MonMotha: | if it has HDMI or DVI, I'd say use that |
| [11:57:00] | MonMotha: | if not, you'll have to get one of the expensive (I think ATi) cards that'll do HD YCbCr output |
| [11:57:00] | MonMotha: | RGB you can fake using a cable and a modeline (if your card can drop its hsync low enough) |
| [11:57:00] | MonMotha: | but YCbCr is a different colorspace |
| [12:10:00] | dhofstra: | you can use an audio authority a960 to convert rgb output to component video input. works great for me, but does cost 100 bucks |
| [12:11:00] | dhofstra: | kind of a good solution in that you can use that transcoder with any old video card you have ... either now or in the future |
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| [12:23:00] | maniacxs: | test1.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV11TestScreen1+0x60): undefined reference to `MythUIType::SetPosition(int, int)' |
| [12:23:00] | maniacxs: | Hi i have problems compiling svn. it stops when compiling "mythuitest" with |
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| [12:36:00] | Flamie: | Hi everone! anyone here use mythgame and care to answer a few questions? |
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| [12:36:00] | Flamie: | I'm wondering how to make a game a favourite, anyone know? |
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| [12:47:00] | MonMotha: | dhofstra: will that do 1080i? For $100 that would be very cheap |
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| [12:49:00] | chris: | #gentoo-mythtv |
| [12:50:00] | Peit|work: | it is, yes |
| [12:50:00] | Peit|work: | :) |
| [12:50:00] | Peit|work: | or isn't |
| [12:50:00] | Peit|work: | take your pick |
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| [13:30:00] | safecracker: | anyone here running a diskless frontend |
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| [13:46:00] | kaaspad: | hey all |
| [13:46:00] | kaaspad: | any1 here ? |
| [13:46:00] | kaaspad: | I'm having a problem with 0.18 |
| [13:47:00] | kaaspad: | I'm using a card that is not v4l and I'm trying to playback video which is mpeg2 via the ringbuffer |
| [13:47:00] | kaaspad: | I'm on a via board |
| [13:47:00] | kaaspad: | if I have XVMC turned on everything works |
| [13:47:00] | kaaspad: | but if I turn it off it doesn't |
| [13:48:00] | kaaspad: | in the log I'm seeing it trying to go in to FB mode |
| [13:48:00] | kaaspad: | how can I tell it not to do this ? and just do regular software decoding ? |
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| [13:49:00] | kaaspad: | any1 ? |
| [13:50:00] | queuetue: | Hello. Is there any way to use mythtv as an automated recorder with digital cable? (I guess, can I get a cable-box-on-a-card or can mythtv output remote signals?) |
| [13:50:00] | kaaspad: | yes it can |
| [13:51:00] | kaaspad: | you will find all the answers in the docs on mythtv.org |
| [13:51:00] | kaaspad: | also check out www.lirc.org |
| [13:52:00] | queuetue: | kaaspad, Which one? cable-boc-on-a-card or remote controller? |
| [13:52:00] | queuetue: | lirc.org implies the latter... |
| [13:53:00] | kaaspad: | both work |
| [13:53:00] | kaaspad: | digital cable works by blasting IR codes from mythbox to stb |
| [13:54:00] | kaaspad: | kinda messy but just like the old external tivos |
| [14:06:00] | mace: | i've noticed some mysql errors in the back end log of late, is anyone aware of these? |
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| [14:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | mace: You might consider being a little more specific about the errors before anyone could even guess to help you |
| [14:36:00] | mace: | GreyFoxx: i've posted them here a few times – i wanted to find out if anyone was alive first :) |
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| [14:38:00] | kaaspad: | greyfoxx: did you see my question above ? |
| [14:38:00] | kaaspad: | do you have any insight ? |
| [14:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | kaaspad: I don't quite understand what you mean by FB mode |
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| [14:39:00] | defy: | im getting this when trying to start mythbackend, anyone have any ideas?, Starting mythbackend: /usr/bin/mythbackend: relocation error: /usr/lib/libmyth-0.18.1.so.0: undefined symbol: _ZN9QGroupBox10setEnabledEb |
| [14:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you are not using a pvr350 or xvmc for mpeg2 decoding, it will use software decoding |
| [14:39:00] | defy: | fedora core 1 box..started doing this ever sinse the last upgrade |
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| [14:48:00] | kaaspad: | greyfox: I'm not using a pvr350, but for some reason in the log I see the framebuffer stuff come up |
| [14:48:00] | kaaspad: | and I get nothing on the screen |
| [14:48:00] | kaaspad: | the pvr-350 option is not checked off |
| [14:49:00] | kaaspad: | I'm trying to play an mpeg4ps file |
| [14:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | kaaspad: paste your output to pastebin or something |
| [14:49:00] | kaaspad: | I have an mpeg 4 encoder card, and I make it so it write to fifo |
| [14:49:00] | kaaspad: | what is pastebin ? |
| [14:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | www.pastebin.ca |
| [14:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | allows you to paste your output there so people can see what y6ou are talking about without flooding it to this channel :) |
| [14:51:00] | kaaspad: | here it is |
| [14:51:00] | kaaspad: | http://pastebin.ca/16316 |
| [14:51:00] | kaaspad: | when I turned off xvmc that comes up |
| [14:51:00] | kaaspad: | I thought that nupple could just play mp4 |
| [14:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | Did you compile myth on your own? |
| [14:52:00] | kaaspad: | yes, I also changed which card it encodes with |
| [14:52:00] | kaaspad: | but didn't touch the decode part |
| [14:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | Did you compile in directfb support? |
| [14:53:00] | kaaspad: | I did a fb enable in .configure, cause I might want to use a 350 at some point in the box |
| [14:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | "obviously you did" |
| [14:53:00] | kaaspad: | :) |
| [14:53:00] | kaaspad: | even though I compiled it in shouldn't there be a way to tell it not to use it ? |
| [14:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | directfb is not used with a 350 |
| [14:53:00] | kaaspad: | what is it used with ? |
| [14:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | directfb |
| [14:54:00] | kaaspad: | in what cases would I need it ? |
| [14:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | IT's an alternate framebuffer setup |
| [14:54:00] | kaaspad: | oh |
| [14:54:00] | kaaspad: | as opposed to using X ? |
| [14:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | correct |
| [14:54:00] | kaaspad: | so there is no reason why I would want that.... |
| [14:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never enabled it, so I have no idea if it's optional or not once compiled in |
| [14:54:00] | kaaspad: | if I'm using X's framebuffer for now |
| [14:54:00] | kaaspad: | k |
| [14:54:00] | kaaspad: | weird |
| [14:55:00] | kaaspad: | cause it lets me enable x11 and fb in the same compile |
| [14:55:00] | kaaspad: | it shouldn't let you do that if it causes a problem |
| [14:55:00] | kaaspad: | nother Q for you if you have a sec |
| [14:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think directfb is a very unused option. I have no idea how well it's maintained |
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| [14:56:00] | kaaspad: | is there "an easy" way to use a different player other then nupple for livetv ? |
| [14:56:00] | kaaspad: | like mplayer for example ? |
| [14:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | edit the xml files and have it launch another app instead of mythtv |
| [14:56:00] | kaaspad: | it seems like nupple is not playing friendly with different mp4 streams I'm creating from a certain chip.... |
| [14:57:00] | kaaspad: | but all the code is based on nupple calls, all of mpegencoder.cpp and so on |
| [14:57:00] | kaaspad: | isnt the nupple video player an intergrated part of the code for "live tv" ? |
| [14:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | ffmpeg/libavcodec/etc/etc is used in the built in player, but you can basically make your own icon in your theme to launch an external application if you so wish. |
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| [14:59:00] | mace: | GreyFoxx: an example of the error i'm seeing is here: http://www.darksilence.net/~mace/mythdberror.txt |
| [14:59:00] | kaaspad: | is there a reason why issac chose nupple over mplayer ? |
| [14:59:00] | Christopher: | Hi, I am manually transcoding my nuv to mpeg4 and I saw the bitrate of the source video is half what I thought it was.... Is there a way to ensure I have the absolute maximum bitrate set so that when I feed my mpeg4 encoder source video it's absolutely as most defined as it could be? |
| [14:59:00] | kaaspad: | it seems that mplayer is much stronger than nupple |
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| [15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | kaaspad: nupplevideo is just the wrapper around the audio and video, like an avi file. It's not an actual player that myth is using |
| [15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | myth uses the same libraries as mplayer does for video |
| [15:00:00] | kaaspad: | ahh ok |
| [15:00:00] | kaaspad: | so maybe I'll see the same problems with my mpeg4ps .... |
| [15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | mace: What version of mysql are you running ? |
| [15:01:00] | kaaspad: | I think I actually might just give up, and spend my time porting this crazy drivers to v4l |
| [15:02:00] | kaaspad: | I don't think anyone really uses this fifo ringbuffer file stuf... |
| [15:03:00] | Flamie: | *yawns* |
| [15:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | mace: Actually that does look weird, when do you see it? When running mythfilldatabase ? |
| [15:04:00] | mace: | GreyFoxx: mysql Ver 12.22 Distrib 4.0.24, for pc-linux-gnu (i386) |
| [15:04:00] | mace: | new enough, anyhow |
| [15:04:00] | Flamie: | what's that ringbuffer used for btw? I've been asking for a way to not buffer stuff more than necessary, since livetv is slow on my box.. |
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| [15:05:00] | mace: | GreyFoxx: not sure, this is just coming from mythbackend.log |
| [15:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | exactly like it sounds, a circular buffer for incoming video when it's being watched "live". allowing you to rewind, pause, etc within the buffer |
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| [15:06:00] | kaaspad: | but you can monitor it if you want |
| [15:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | mace, very weird. I'm looking at that section of the code now |
| [15:07:00] | kaaspad: | if you mod the code and create a fifo file in /mnt/store, you can control the amount manually |
| [15:07:00] | kaaspad: | actually the fifo file is already there |
| [15:07:00] | kaaspad: | just make this as your videodevice in capturecard table: |
| [15:08:00] | kaaspad: | file:/mnt/store/live_fifo |
| [15:08:00] | kaaspad: | and write whatever you want to there |
| [15:08:00] | mace: | semi-related to buffering, because i have a small hard disk, it has a tendency to fill up quite often – when that happens syslog etc start filling up with ivtv errors in a rapid fashion, which is annoying – is there a reason it doesn't recognise that it's run out of space and stop the recording process? |
| [15:08:00] | mace: | GreyFoxx: ok ta |
| [15:08:00] | kaaspad: | myth's ringbuffer can read from there |
| [15:09:00] | kaaspad: | has anyone got a pvr-usb2 working with myth ? there are v4l drivers so it shouldn't be too difficult |
| [15:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've seen people mention using the plextor usb mpeg4 tuner, but haven't noticed anyone mentionm the hauppage one |
| [15:10:00] | laga_: | kaaspad: search the ML |
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| [15:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | mace: You see that everytime you start mythbackend right ? |
| [15:14:00] | kaaspad: | didn't find anything in the ml |
| [15:15:00] | kaaspad: | all I found in the ml was that it doesn't work |
| [15:15:00] | laga_: | kaaspad: well. that's an answer to your question, huh? |
| [15:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [15:15:00] | kaaspad: | :( |
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| [15:18:00] | mace: | GreyFoxx: i believe so, yes |
| [15:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | back you stop it, and restart it will verbose logging turned on? Then after the error occurs shut it down again. I'd like to see the output |
| [15:19:00] | laga_: | GreyFoxx: have you watched any star wars lately? |
| [15:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | not in a few weeks no :) |
| [15:20:00] | GeckoFiend: | kaaspad mplayer is a media player program. nupple is a codec. the NuppleVideoPlayer is our own code |
| [15:21:00] | mace: | GreyFoxx: how do i do that? |
| [15:22:00] | mace: | GreyFoxx: turn verbose debugging on, that is |
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| [15:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythbackend -v schedule will enable verbose logging of schedule related info |
| [15:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | actually that will output it to your screen, either add -l filename to log to a file or just redirect it to a file |
| [15:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think I see the problem, but need more info to be sure |
| [15:25:00] | mace: | np |
| [15:25:00] | mace: | sec |
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| [15:26:00] | mace: | same url as before |
| [15:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | l |
| [15:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | k |
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| [15:31:00] | jonK: | mailx |
| [15:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | mace: Would you mind sending me a copy of your record table? It's the table of what is to be recorded/when. |
| [15:31:00] | mace: | sec |
| [15:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | <<-- Avoiding doing his real job |
| [15:33:00] | mace: | :) |
| [15:33:00] | mace: | know that feeling |
| [15:33:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: what do you do? |
| [15:33:00] | Flamie: | anyone else here that uses a gamepad to navigate myth? |
| [15:33:00] | mace: | i'd be trying to fix this myself, but i've not quite gotten as far as trying to build it myself |
| [15:33:00] | jonK: | <-- eating breakfast in office (grapes/cantelope) coffee |
| [15:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: Mostly Unix/Network admin related stuff. Dealing with software my company puts out, and some minor development as needed |
| [15:34:00] | sphing: | mmm what company? |
| [15:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | I prefer not to publish such things, just in case my rants get to the wrong eyes or ears :) |
| [15:35:00] | mace: | :) |
| [15:35:00] | jonK: | plus teh stalkers |
| [15:35:00] | sphing: | haha.. fair enough |
| [15:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nah, the stalkers I like. easy enough for someone to figure o ut my name address and phone number :) |
| [15:37:00] | dopester: | depends on what their motivation for stalking is i suppose |
| [15:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | very true :) |
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| [15:48:00] | mace: | not strictly a myth one this, but does anyone know how to get the saa7127 to start up in svideo output only mode? |
| [15:48:00] | mace: | i tried options saa7127 enable_output=2 but it doesn't appear to notice/work |
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| [15:53:00] | sphing: | dont know if i'm late... but http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2005/06/22/myth_tv.html |
| [15:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, it definately has to do with that, but the thing I'm search for is to find out why the program info is being placed in that spot :) I can see eactly where the query is being put together however |
| [15:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
| [15:55:00] | mace: | re enable_output thing, i should've been using 1, not 2 |
| [15:56:00] | Christopher: | Where does mythtv set the bitrate and streamtype it decodes from the tuner and encodes to nuv? |
| [15:58:00] | sphing: | frontend -> setup -> tv -> recording profiles |
| [15:58:00] | Christopher: | sphing: cool... going to check it out! |
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| [16:06:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: whats your myth site |
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| [16:08:00] | Christopher: | sphing: how do I restore those settings back to default to know if I need to reboot or not... cause now instead of tuned video... I'm getting a black screen... and mythfrontend just says it's waiting. Do you think I need to reboot? |
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| [16:08:00] | sphing: | ... i doubt rebooting has anything to do with it unless its an ivtv issue.. and i'm sure how to restore to default |
| [16:09:00] | Christopher: | sphing: how please? |
| [16:09:00] | sphing: | *im not sure |
| [16:09:00] | Christopher: | ;) k |
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| [16:23:00] | Tommck___: | why does this thing keep on making me Tommck________________ |
| [16:23:00] | Tommck___: | ? |
| [16:24:00] | CyberKnet: | are you not Tommck? =) |
| [16:24:00] | Tommck___: | yes, I am |
| [16:24:00] | Tommck___: | but I'm showing up as Tommck____ |
| [16:24:00] | Tommck___: | and I don't know how to sign off my Zombie |
| [16:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: www.phaze.org/mythtv ... not really a site, but a place I dump stuff :) |
| [16:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can't. It'll die on it's own |
| [16:25:00] | Tommck___: | oh. annoying |
| [16:25:00] | Tommck___: | :) |
| [16:26:00] | Tommck___: | so... my MythTV box just decided that it doesn't want to delete stuff now :) |
| [16:26:00] | CyberKnet: | do a msg nickserv ghost Tommck <your_password> |
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| [16:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | nickserv allows you to kill ghosts? Nifty |
| [16:26:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: very. |
| [16:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm not use to having anickserv available :) |
| [16:26:00] | Tommck___: | CyberKnet ahh.. cool |
| [16:26:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: me either =) |
| [16:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Only place I use one is on this network :) |
| [16:26:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: ditto. |
| [16:27:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: Then again, I only frequent here and undernet, so... =) |
| [16:27:00] | CyberKnet: | and more frequently here than undernet these days. |
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| [16:27:00] | CyberKnet: | so you might say I am only used to having a nickserv available, despite not being familiar with it being available =P" |
| [16:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm here and EfNet. more there than here :) |
| [16:27:00] | CyberKnet: | but that's taking it a bit too far. |
| [16:27:00] | Tommck: | Cool! *** -NickServ- [Tommck] has been killed |
| [16:28:00] | CyberKnet: | Tommck: all sorts of wonderful. |
| [16:28:00] | Tommck: | [Cartman] Sweeeeeeet! [/Cartman] |
| [16:28:00] | Christopher: | How do I ask ivtv whether it's encoding CBR 960000 or VBR on my pvr-500...? I'm trying to debug some artifacts. |
| [16:30:00] | Tommck: | Pastebin is broken? |
| [16:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [16:30:00] | Tommck: | weird.. |
| [16:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | pastebin.ca works, or cpp.sourceforge.net |
| [16:30:00] | Tommck: | ah.. cook |
| [16:30:00] | Tommck: | cool |
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| [16:33:00] | CyberKnet: | pastebin.ca is the only one worth using =) |
| [16:33:00] | Tommck: | CyberKnet – why? Because it's Canadian? What's that aboot? |
| [16:34:00] | jonK: | is it still workign, or are they all off getting married |
| [16:34:00] | Tommck: | pastebin.ca is working |
| [16:35:00] | brandon: | Anyone know if nuv2disc can work when using a remote backend? It always failed and reported it was connecting to localhost, and even overriding the command didn't help. |
| [16:35:00] | Tommck: | When I try to delete a show, I get this in my backend console: http://pastebin.ca/16326 |
| [16:35:00] | Tommck: | brandon – good question.. I'd like to know the answer to that too |
| [16:35:00] | laga_: | brandon: i guess it wants to access the files locally, use nfs to share your recordings |
| [16:35:00] | CyberKnet: | Tommck: because it has more usable features. |
| [16:36:00] | CyberKnet: | and more useful features. |
| [16:36:00] | Tommck: | CyberKnet – ah.. they're not the same people? |
| [16:36:00] | CyberKnet: | and everything pastebin.com does is copied from pastebin.ca |
| [16:36:00] | CyberKnet: | no, they're not. |
| [16:36:00] | brandon: | I have things via nfs, and symlinked it's hard coded (as I can tell) /myth/tv to it.. the db query was to get program info and that fails, then says i have no shows to select, even though /myth/tv/ points to my nfs mount |
| [16:36:00] | Tommck: | CyberKnet – ahh.. weird... They must be Canadian... Americans would have sued as soon as the domain was registered :) |
| [16:36:00] | CyberKnet: | in fact, you probably know the person that runs pastebin.ca, they're in here frequently. |
| [16:37:00] | CyberKnet: | in here now, matter of fact. |
| [16:37:00] | Tommck: | cool |
| [16:37:00] | CyberKnet: | (no, not me! =P) |
| [16:37:00] | Tommck: | oh... and when deleting, my front end loses the connection to the backend when that error happens (http://pastebin.ca/16326) |
| [16:37:00] | jonK: | now he's definitely got to be off getting married |
| [16:37:00] | Tommck: | hehe :) |
| [16:38:00] | ** CyberKnet boots firefox in a vain attempt to get it to respond ** | |
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| [16:39:00] | ** GreyFoxx wonders if he can talk his boss into getting him a bigger HD for his laptop. ** | |
| [16:40:00] | Tommck: | GreyFoxx – how big is it now? |
| [16:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | 40G |
| [16:40:00] | Tommck: | GreyFoxx – not bad. what's taking all your space? |
| [16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | With 3–5G free at anygiven time. I'm tired of deleting crap :) |
| [16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Tommck: A Large portion is vmware stuff, but there is a lot of stuff on this laptop |
| [16:41:00] | Tommck: | wow... porn? TV? music? |
| [16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | none of that on here however :) |
| [16:42:00] | Tommck: | GreyFoxx – ah |
| [16:44:00] | Tommck: | So... I haven't been keeping up with the lists lately, how is the stability of recent CVS? |
| [16:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Only problem I had was caused by a failing harddrive which was causing weird crashes. Otherwise I've had no problems |
| [16:45:00] | Tommck: | ah. cool |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo_: | what the hell? |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo_: | I can't change my nick? |
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| [16:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | works for me |
| [16:46:00] | Tommck: | Beirdo_ – I had to have my regular name killed |
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| [16:46:00] | Beirdo_: | this is odd |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo_: | gimme a sec |
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| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | stupid netrowrk |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | there |
| [16:49:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [16:50:00] | CyberKnet: | sure, blame the network. |
| [16:50:00] | CyberKnet: | don't blame the java log bot. |
| [16:50:00] | Tommck: | just blame Java? :) |
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| [16:52:00] | Beirdo: | it wasn't java that buggered irssi |
| [16:55:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: Java is always a good scapegoat. |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | true dat |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | must be .NET's fault |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | it always is |
| [16:56:00] | CyberKnet: | it wasn't WMD that made bush want to invade Iraq, but the troops are still there, and WMD is all the press can talk about =) |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | that's because news people use Java to run their brains |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | which is why they have big heads and are so full of shit :) |
| [16:57:00] | CyberKnet: | it wasn't terrorism that the patriot act was written to target, but here it is, and the government is *still* spewing crap about terrorism and how the patriot act combats it. |
| [16:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Bush needs new material |
| [16:57:00] | CyberKnet: | people use scapegoats all the time. So I give you a choice: Blame Canada, or Blame Java. You choose =P" |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | aren't you glad you live in the land of the oppressed and lied to? |
| [16:58:00] | CyberKnet: | land of the opressed, home of the gullible. |
| [16:58:00] | Tommck: | always Blame Canada |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | I blame freenode |
| [16:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | I mean come on, how much mialage can you get out of constantly repeating "9/11" and "freedom" over and over |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | 4 more years, apparently |
| [16:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | of course it did get him reelected |
| [16:58:00] | rjune: | and there are attempts to extend the term limit |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | that won't work |
| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | And don't get me wrong, what happened at the trade towns was a horrible tragedy, but god dammit, get the fsck over it already |
| [16:59:00] | Tommck: | rjune – yeah... that freaks me out |
| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | towers |
| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune : really? |
| [16:59:00] | rjune: | Tommck: no shit, we might have bush vs clinton in 08 |
| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | wow |
| [16:59:00] | rjune: | that's a REALLY scary |
| [16:59:00] | rjune: | thought |
| [17:00:00] | CyberKnet: | *Shudder* |
| [17:00:00] | CyberKnet: | although... clinton could win that battle. |
| [17:00:00] | CyberKnet: | the man is slicker than a pool of oil. |
| [17:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [17:00:00] | CyberKnet: | can't stand the man, but apparently a lot of people can. |
| [17:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'd vote for him over bush heh |
| [17:00:00] | Tommck: | rjune – then again, it might actually make people try real candidates.. ones that are electable (which I don't think Kerry was) |
| [17:01:00] | sphing: | anyone played with mythtvosd |
| [17:01:00] | Tommck: | GreyFoxx – he was probably talking about Hilary |
| [17:01:00] | rjune: | I would have to think about that one. clinton got trops killed in somalia, bush did it in iraq |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [17:01:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: you'd probably vote for pol pot over bush =P" |
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| [17:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | "pol pot" ? |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | to get the term limits removed will require constitutional amendment |
| [17:01:00] | rjune: | Tommck: problem with kerry was he was spouting the same stuff as bush |
| [17:01:00] | honeyzzz is now known as honey | |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | good luck with that |
| [17:01:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: doesn't mean nobody will try |
| [17:01:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: the dictator... third deadliest |
| [17:01:00] | Tommck: | GreyFoxx – wow.. Pol Pot was the head of the Khmer Rouge... killed more people than Hitler |
| [17:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ahhhh ok |
| [17:01:00] | rjune: | what was the latest amendment that just might bass.... |
| [17:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | duh |
| [17:01:00] | rjune: | crap.. Uhm. |
| [17:01:00] | honey: | rjune, by the way, i didn't install yet, but a couple of odd dependency things with your mythtv rpms |
| [17:02:00] | sphing: | Tommck: more than hitler... i didnt know it was that many |
| [17:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was literally thinking POT as in weed :) |
| [17:02:00] | rjune: | honey: edgan said he installed it without any dep issues |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | marijuana party |
| [17:02:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [17:02:00] | Tommck: | sphing -yeah.. it's frequently pointed out by people talking about how the world doesn't give a crap about non-western atrocities |
| [17:02:00] | sphing: | point taken |
| [17:03:00] | honey: | rjune, maybe so, i only did rpm --test which mythdvd (and therefore plugins) wasn't happy with. just if you want to know. |
| [17:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | With the shit that goes down in other countries it's pretty much true |
| [17:04:00] | rjune: | honey: absolutely. you'll need livna for it, and you need to use the latest packages there |
| [17:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's more like "If it's not happenning to us, or at least not to white folks then we don't care" |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | there IS a Marijuana Party in Canada... they actually got more votes than the Communist Party and the Marxist-Leninist Parties combined last election |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | looks like there's more potheads than commies up here :) |
| [17:04:00] | honey: | rjune, uh? livna for what? i installed all the livna prerequisites. |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo hehe which one is it that believed in yogic flying ? |
| [17:05:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: their slogan is, when the atomic bomb goes of there's devastation, when the atomic bong goes off, there's celebration! |
| [17:05:00] | rjune: | honey: for some of the deps. |
| [17:05:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: yeesh. I visions of a circle of people smoking weed, and the only word being said is "Eh?" ... around the circle over and over. |
| [17:05:00] | CyberKnet: | heh =) |
| [17:05:00] | laga_: | atomic bongs *drool* |
| [17:05:00] | honey: | rjune, the error (--test) when installing all on the same line (including frontend) was: error: Failed dependencies: |
| [17:05:00] | honey: | mythtv-frontend-api = %{eversion}. is needed by mythdvd-0.18.1–0.0.i386 |
| [17:06:00] | rjune: | honey: not the latest version |
| [17:06:00] | honey: | rjune, i dare say it's a dependency muddle and they install ok, but just a bit odd. thought you might want to know |
| [17:06:00] | honey: | i picked this up after you told me to |
| [17:06:00] | rjune: | honey: what is the filename of it? |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx that was the Natural Law Party |
| [17:06:00] | honey: | which one? |
| [17:06:00] | rjune: | any of them |
| [17:06:00] | honey: | i picked the latest of each |
| [17:07:00] | honey: | v-frontend-0.18.1–0.2.i386.rpm |
| [17:07:00] | honey: | ^mytht |
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| [17:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Right, that's the one |
| [17:07:00] | sphing: | is there a table that lists the connected frontends? |
| [17:07:00] | rjune: | honey: ocrap, I thought I fixed that |
| [17:07:00] | CyberKnet: | people *believe* in yogic flying? |
| [17:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | CyberKnet: There are nuts that believe in everything :) |
| [17:07:00] | honey: | rjune, just for info. odd Edgan had no problems. |
| [17:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just look at how many people believe that humans have actually landed on the moon. crazy |
| [17:08:00] | rjune: | honey: indeed. can you try redownloading? |
| [17:08:00] | honey: | rjune, sometime today yep |
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| [17:08:00] | honey: | rjune, same version(s)? |
| [17:08:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: bet your gonna say outerspace is fiction too right? |
| [17:08:00] | rjune: | honey: latest one there. whatever it is |
| [17:08:00] | honey: | k |
| [17:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: Of course not, that would be silly |
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| [17:09:00] | honey: | rjune, so i'm expecting a later one than the one above? |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:09:00] | rjune: | honey: prolly not |
| [17:09:00] | honey: | rjune, hmph. ok |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | using honey as a nick makes it look like everyone's hitting on you |
| [17:09:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [17:09:00] | rjune: | we are |
| [17:09:00] | ** laga_ is not ** | |
| [17:10:00] | ** Beirdo isn't either ** | |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:10:00] | mchou: | right...... |
| [17:10:00] | honey: | Beirdo, /nick sweetie |
| [17:10:00] | ** Beirdo has someone else for that. ** | |
| [17:10:00] | laga_: | you never know if the person you're talking to isn't a smelly, male one |
| [17:10:00] | laga_: | Beirdo: pr0n? :> |
| [17:10:00] | mchou: | laga_: true enough. |
| [17:10:00] | honey: | Beirdo, it just means people are being nice |
| [17:10:00] | honey: | um.. usually |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | laga_: no |
| [17:11:00] | laga_: | Beirdo: huh? something in real life? don't b*****it me ;) |
| [17:11:00] | Beirdo: | I'm on the phone with her right now, in fact |
| [17:11:00] | laga_: | nice |
| [17:11:00] | laga_: | brb |
| [17:11:00] | rjune: | honey: are you a sweaty, smelly male person? |
| [17:11:00] | mchou: | laga_: or even if they are of the opposite sex, whether they pursue an "alternate lifestyle" :) |
| [17:11:00] | Beirdo: | and I'm at work |
| [17:11:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:11:00] | honey: | rjune! i'm not testing anything for you for THAT! |
| [17:11:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: $3.99/minute? |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [17:12:00] | honey: | rjune, are you a grossly ugly fat stinker? |
| [17:12:00] | rjune: | honey: well my shower was interrupted, so I stink still |
| [17:12:00] | sphing: | how can I get a list of connected frontends? |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | this is turning into #sexchat now? sheesh |
| [17:12:00] | honey: | could someone punch rjune in the face please? |
| [17:13:00] | mchou: | honey: rjune comes across as a sex-starved fat stinker. |
| [17:13:00] | ** rjune punches that rjune punk in the face ** | |
| [17:13:00] | ** Beirdo slaps rjune with the trout ** | |
| [17:13:00] | honey: | mchou, how true! |
| [17:13:00] | Christopher: | how do i capture a frame during live tv playback? |
| [17:13:00] | mchou: | honey: I'm not really joking :) |
| [17:13:00] | rjune: | mchou: there's a reason for that. |
| [17:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: Add code to the backend to supply a list via the myth protocol ? :) |
| [17:13:00] | honey: | mchou, i kind of was, sorry if you punched him already. but all's fair |
| [17:14:00] | mchou: | rjune: trying to scare nice women off? :) |
| [17:14:00] | laga_: | Christopher: umm, restart mythfrontend with NO_XV set to 1, and use import. it'll be slow as hell, prolly, though. |
| [17:14:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: fair enough. |
| [17:14:00] | rjune: | mchou: heh. all but my wife |
| [17:14:00] | Christopher: | laga_: again with the scope a little wider please. :) Where do I set NO_XV? |
| [17:14:00] | slide: | I have some dvds that ive already ripped and i want to add them to myths media library. Is there any way to get mytv to lookup the movie info itself? |
| [17:14:00] | mchou: | let's get back on track w/ GWB. |
| [17:15:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: whats your myth site |
| [17:15:00] | ** honey has two mental categories of freenode channels, and this is rapidly falling into one of them :) ** | |
| [17:15:00] | mchou: | all this sex talk has me hot and bothered :) |
| [17:15:00] | laga_: | Christopher: in your favourite shell ;). just type 'NO_XV=1 mythfrontend' and use another shell window to do an 'import -window root screenshot.png' (see 'man import') |
| [17:15:00] | mchou: | I need to bash on GWB. |
| [17:15:00] | rjune: | it's not even all that steamy... wow dont' take much for you guys |
| [17:15:00] | rjune: | mchou: you're hot and bothered about bashing on GWB? |
| [17:16:00] | mchou: | yeah. |
| [17:16:00] | Lathiat: | you can do that? (NO_XV) why didnt anyone tell me |
| [17:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | <GreyFoxx> sphing: www.phaze.org/mythtv ... not really a site, but a place I |
| [17:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | dump stuff :) |
| [17:16:00] | Lathiat: | i guess a 400mhz probably wont draw videos on the vesa driver at the right speed tho |
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| [17:16:00] | rjune: | Lathiat: Uhm, no |
| [17:16:00] | Christopher: | laga_: can I do that while my livetv is running now? |
| [17:16:00] | sphing: | yea i wanted your keys.txt for mplayer (sorry didnt see it above) |
| [17:16:00] | rjune: | Lathiat: a P3/533 has trouble |
| [17:16:00] | Lathiat: | rjune: ;) |
| [17:16:00] | Lathiat: | yeh |
| [17:16:00] | Lathiat: | stupid riva tnt |
| [17:16:00] | mchou: | rjune: lemme rephrase: I'd like to bash GWB :) |
| [17:16:00] | Lathiat: | thenvidia drivers, even 6629, dont want to go |
| [17:17:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: that reminds me. I modded the input file for mplayer, [ and ] now control volume, and some of the other keys are mapped the same as mythmusic |
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| [17:17:00] | rjune: | don't think nvidia drivres cover the tnt |
| [17:17:00] | mchou: | wow, this guy really impresses me. |
| [17:18:00] | rjune: | which guy? |
| [17:18:00] | mchou: | some lawyer on the radio (NPR story) |
| [17:18:00] | rjune: | ah |
| [17:19:00] | Christopher: | lada_: that works great, except you should have warned me to minimized the windows layered on top of it first... lol :) |
| [17:19:00] | mchou: | whats the going rate for a dual layer dvd burner these days? |
| [17:19:00] | Christopher: | ty |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | real cheap |
| [17:19:00] | mchou: | like $50 or less? |
| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | I think so, last I looked it was about $70CDN, and that was like 2–3 months ago |
| [17:20:00] | laga_: | Christopher: heh |
| [17:20:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I think newegg has good NEC drivers for between 60 and 70 |
| [17:20:00] | laga_: | Christopher: and i'm not a russian car manufacturer, it's spelled with a 'gee' ;) |
| [17:20:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: bah, that's still pricy :) |
| [17:20:00] | slide: | I have mythweb running but i cant access any of my music or other media files from my other computer, I keep getting 404 not found errors. Is there supposed to be some kind of internal relay between the real location on my computer and where the webbrowser is looking? |
| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | laga_: and a _ |
| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:20:00] | mchou: | compared to HDD, that is :) |
| [17:21:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: no argument there. |
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| [17:22:00] | laga: | Beirdo: the lada niva is a nice car, though. |
| [17:23:00] | Beirdo: | hah |
| [17:23:00] | Beirdo: | if you say so |
| [17:23:00] | Beirdo: | I think I'll stick to German or Japanese cars |
| [17:23:00] | mchou: | that sounds suspiciously like nova :) |
| [17:23:00] | Beirdo: | that went over so well in Mexico |
| [17:23:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:24:00] | mchou: | exactly :) |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | conveniently accurate name though |
| [17:24:00] | mchou: | or any spanish speaking country. |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | yeh |
| [17:24:00] | mchou: | like most of latin America. |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | doubt they sold many in California |
| [17:24:00] | rjune: | older novas would most assuredly would go |
| [17:24:00] | mchou: | heh |
| [17:25:00] | Beirdo: | NO VA! |
| [17:25:00] | laga: | Beirdo: http://www.exleaseautos.nl/fotos/Peugeot%2020 . . . wart%20v.JPG <- i'll stick with a french car for the near future ;) |
| [17:25:00] | Beirdo: | Peugot and Citroen aren't bad |
| [17:26:00] | Beirdo: | although Citroen is SOOO close to Citron |
| [17:26:00] | Beirdo: | which for the French-impaired... means lemon |
| [17:26:00] | mchou: | peugot??? |
| [17:26:00] | laga: | mchou: peugeot |
| [17:26:00] | Beirdo: | gah |
| [17:26:00] | Beirdo: | I missed the e |
| [17:26:00] | Beirdo: | sorry |
| [17:26:00] | mchou: | moore like pepe le peu |
| [17:26:00] | mchou: | more* |
| [17:27:00] | Beirdo: | Peugeot are nice cars, you American wanker :) |
| [17:27:00] | CyberKnet: | hah |
| [17:27:00] | rjune: | if you wanna ride in a small box |
| [17:27:00] | CyberKnet: | that wont get him started up, will it? |
| [17:27:00] | mchou: | No they arent. They break down as much as old Jags. |
| [17:27:00] | Beirdo: | you guys have never gone to Europe, I take it |
| [17:27:00] | ** CyberKnet hides from the inevitable mess ** | |
| [17:27:00] | Tommck: | mchou – yeah... that's why they basically failed in the US |
| [17:27:00] | laga: | well, i'd prefer a corvette or something like that, but the peugeot is better for out gas prices – some experts say we'll have to pay 1.80 euro very soon ;) |
| [17:27:00] | Beirdo: | small cars are the name of the game |
| [17:27:00] | Tommck: | CyberKnet – hehe |
| [17:28:00] | ** Tommck starts fanning the flames ** | |
| [17:28:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: doesn't have to be tiny to have good economy |
| [17:28:00] | ** CyberKnet watches tommck get burned to a cripy bite-sized dragontreat ** | |
| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | high gas prices, tight streets, lack of parking |
| [17:28:00] | rjune: | those are barely more then go karts |
| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | it has to be small cars |
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| [17:28:00] | mchou: | who uses gas cars anymore. :) |
| [17:28:00] | laga: | Beirdo: or a tank. :> |
| [17:28:00] | rjune: | no kidding, gas is so passe |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | you guys likely drive SUVs |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:29:00] | mchou: | rednecks like driving SUVs. |
| [17:29:00] | CyberKnet: | blech |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [17:29:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: nope |
| [17:29:00] | beavis: | is svn dead ATM? |
| [17:29:00] | rjune: | mchou: rednecks like trucks |
| [17:29:00] | CyberKnet: | no stinky SUV please. |
| [17:29:00] | CyberKnet: | rednecks like dualies. |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: don't you have an SUV? |
| [17:29:00] | rjune: | mchou: poeple with more money then brains like suvs |
| [17:29:00] | mchou: | hehe :) |
| [17:29:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: not that runs, no. |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | it's a lawn ornament? |
| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | you SO are a redneck |
| [17:30:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: parked on the front lawn?? |
| [17:30:00] | CyberKnet: | It is not a lawn ornament. |
| [17:30:00] | rjune: | up on cinder blocks? |
| [17:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | I like suv's, I just don't own one :) |
| [17:30:00] | CyberKnet: | and it is not parked on the front lawn! |
| [17:30:00] | CyberKnet: | it is on a concrete pad waiting for me to have time to change the starter and sell the bastard. |
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| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | take the wheels off, bust out the windows and use it as a flower bed |
| [17:30:00] | CyberKnet: | bloody hell. |
| [17:30:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [17:31:00] | ** Beirdo is exercising his mean streak ** | |
| [17:31:00] | CyberKnet: | Don't make me make fun of canada. |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | God knows I don't get much opportunity lately |
| [17:31:00] | mchou: | shit, every time the radio talks about GWB speech gets my blood pressure up. |
| [17:31:00] | rjune: | women will do that to you |
| [17:31:00] | ** Beirdo whips a snowball at CyberKnet ** | |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | rjune: yup |
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| [17:32:00] | beavis: | could anyone please try to SVN UP? |
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| [17:34:00] | mchou: | that dude's nick like some sort of female yeast infection treatment. |
| [17:34:00] | mchou: | sounds^ |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | ewww, we don't need that thought |
| [17:34:00] | Christopher: | laga_: some of those frames were almost 2 meg! at 1280x1024... is that normal for png? |
| [17:35:00] | laga: | Christopher: probably. try import -window root screenshot.jpf |
| [17:35:00] | laga: | err. |
| [17:35:00] | laga: | .jpg i mean |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | import --good-beer --from Germany |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:36:00] | laga: | mv /dev/fridge/ur-pils /mnt/nfs/beirdo/fridge/ |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:37:00] | laga: | umm, wait. |
| [17:37:00] | Beirdo: | cp |
| [17:37:00] | laga: | make that a 'cp'. that's cheaper. ;) |
| [17:37:00] | laga: | Beirdo: heh |
| [17:37:00] | Beirdo: | much better |
| [17:37:00] | Beirdo: | cat /fridge/beer > /dev/mouth |
| [17:38:00] | laga: | *drool* |
| [17:38:00] | laga: | a friend of mine told me to drop at his place for a few beers, but i'm going to be busy with other stuff tonight *sigh* |
| [17:38:00] | Christopher: | laga: In this screen shot where it says (GOOGLE WENT PUBLIC IN AUGUST 2004) the N & the A don't look right... In video, they flicker... what do you think's going on? I'm trying to get CBR instead of VBR out of IVTV. |
| [17:38:00] | Christopher: | http://chriscamisa.com/screenshots/4.png |
| [17:39:00] | mchou: | google stock is over $300/share now. |
| [17:39:00] | mchou: | that's just outrageous |
| [17:39:00] | laga: | Christopher: sorry, i gotta go now – but they look fine to me. afk. |
| [17:41:00] | Christopher: | ty |
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| [17:51:00] | maniacxs: | hi there, i have some problems compiling mythtv. it stops while trying to compile mythuitest |
| [17:53:00] | CyberKnet: | maniacxs: really? that sucks. |
| [17:53:00] | maniacxs: | do i need it? |
| [17:53:00] | CyberKnet: | maniacxs: let us know when you get it fixed. |
| [17:53:00] | zuralin: | .. |
| [17:53:00] | sphing: | ha |
| [17:53:00] | zuralin: | error? |
| [17:53:00] | CyberKnet: | maniacxs: it's hard to say without knowing what you want to do, but it's highly likely you don't even care it exists. |
| [17:54:00] | CyberKnet: | zuralin: ? |
| [17:54:00] | zuralin: | CyberKnet: ..? |
| [17:54:00] | maniacxs: | something like this: test1.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV11TestScreen1+0x60): undefined reference to `MythUIType::SetPosition(int, int)' |
| [17:54:00] | CyberKnet: | zuralin: ?..? |
| [17:56:00] | stoffel: | maniacxs: you don't need it to use mythtv |
| [17:56:00] | maniacxs: | ok thank you |
| [17:56:00] | bhursey: | I cant wait to get home... I am gona change the architecture of my myth system from one pc to two.. |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:57:00] | Beirdo: | I can't wait to get home... to play puzzle pirates |
| [17:57:00] | sphing: | haha |
| [17:57:00] | sphing: | you're obsessed |
| [17:57:00] | kormoc: | I can't wait to get home... |
| [17:57:00] | bhursey: | lol people at my school play that.. |
| [17:57:00] | stoffel: | i am at home :P |
| [17:57:00] | sphing: | (great spelling) |
| [17:57:00] | ** kormoc leavesfor work ** | |
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| [17:57:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: a little late? |
| [17:57:00] | bhursey: | sphing: im dislexic |
| [17:57:00] | Beirdo: | bhursey: it's addictive as hell |
| [17:57:00] | xris: | he's always late. heh. |
| [17:57:00] | ** sphing leaves for class ** | |
| [17:58:00] | CyberKnet: | bhursey: dyslexic, or lysdexic? |
| [17:58:00] | xris: | and typestic, apparently. |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | ahoy, xris! |
| [17:58:00] | xris: | ahoy? are we going boating? |
| [17:58:00] | bhursey: | Beirdo: thats why i never started playing it.... Same thing with WOW |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | xris: pirating? :) if only I were home |
| [17:59:00] | bhursey: | xris: i only type... I have disgraphia too so no one can read my hand writing. |
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| [17:59:00] | xris: | bhursey: just giving you a hard type.. it's "dys" not "dis" |
| [17:59:00] | bhursey: | So basicly i live in computers.. So I became a programer. LOL |
| [17:59:00] | xris: | but that sucks. those are hard to live with. |
| [18:00:00] | bhursey: | ya its all caused by an arterial venus malformation... oh i have epilepsy too. LOL |
| [18:00:00] | bhursey: | it sucks |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | Well, it's lunch time |
| [18:00:00] | CyberKnet: | what's for lunch? |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | time for me to bring in a roll of B&W film :) |
| [18:00:00] | Atamido: | In test installed Myth on a small harddrive and it seemed to run fine with only 3.5GB of space. I set it to record some shows and it filled up on the second show. But when it filled up it said that it was still recording. |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | I think I'll have falafel... |
| [18:00:00] | bhursey: | dont look up avms unless you want to be scared... |
| [18:00:00] | ** CyberKnet wants a doner kebab ** | |
| [18:00:00] | bhursey: | LOL |
| [18:00:00] | Atamido: | I went to delete a recording, said yes, and then it locked up. |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | falafel, dammit! |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:01:00] | CyberKnet: | doner kebab! |
| [18:01:00] | CyberKnet: | you know you want it. |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not in a meat mood today |
| [18:01:00] | CyberKnet: | or a poutine |
| [18:01:00] | Atamido: | I couldn't get it to do anything so I rebooted and it came up with an error that "GDM Couldn't create the file in the home" something something... |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | xris: you are rubbing off on me or something |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | argh, no poutine for me today :) |
| [18:01:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
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| [18:02:00] | bhursey: | Atamido... that could be because you probibly did not set the size cap or its a bug remeber the softwars in beta. |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not trying to regain that weight, dude. |
| [18:02:00] | ** xris grins. ** | |
| [18:02:00] | Atamido: | So I went to the console and deleted a file and rebooted and got the same error. |
| [18:02:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: then I guess it's a fruit and walnut salad for you. |
| [18:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | mmm poutine |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | falafel |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:02:00] | CyberKnet: | dammit, not falafel! |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | poutine is so damn tempting |
| [18:02:00] | Atamido: | So now even though it has space, it still won't start. |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | but not in the mood for it |
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| [18:02:00] | xris: | mmm... falafel is good |
| [18:02:00] | ** CyberKnet wants a poutine ** | |
| [18:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo heh |
| [18:02:00] | bhursey: | whats the exact error? |
| [18:02:00] | ** GreyFoxx is going for a sandwidch and a salad ** | |
| [18:03:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: fedex me a poutine, eh? =) |
| [18:03:00] | xris: | been having paninis lately.. made fresh focaccia the other day. probably gone by now, though. |
| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I'll put some beans with maple syrup in there too |
| [18:03:00] | CyberKnet: | ew. |
| [18:03:00] | CyberKnet: | dammit. |
| [18:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: nice, I love both of those :) |
| [18:03:00] | ** Atamido goes to reboot the PC to write down the error. ** | |
| [18:04:00] | CyberKnet: | beans with maple syrup? mixed up with fries with cheese curds and gravy? |
| [18:04:00] | CyberKnet: | how does that sound good? |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | in separate containers, dude |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | you've never had brown beans with maple syrup? |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | mmmmmm |
| [18:05:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: well, one is made with the other, so it's hard to like just the sandwich and not the bread. |
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| [18:05:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: no, and I dont exactly hope to, either. |
| [18:05:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: most baked beans have a little maple in them. |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | jeez, you're missing out, CyberKnet. |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | try it |
| [18:05:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: I don't do baked beans |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | go to Quebec and go to a sugar shack |
| [18:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | baked beans are good |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | tortiere is sooo good too |
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| [18:06:00] | CyberKnet: | the only person in the midwest who doesn't eat beans and cornbread |
| [18:06:00] | Beirdo: | (meat pie made with pork, veal, beef, usually) |
| [18:06:00] | Beirdo: | very good stuff |
| [18:06:00] | CyberKnet: | mmmm |
| [18:06:00] | CyberKnet: | now that does sound good. |
| [18:06:00] | CyberKnet: | as does a cheese & bacon meat pie |
| [18:06:00] | Beirdo: | French Canadian cuisine is quite tasty |
| [18:06:00] | CyberKnet: | or the good old potato pie. |
| [18:06:00] | CyberKnet: | dammit. now I want a meat pie. |
| [18:07:00] | Beirdo: | Quebec may piss me off for poilitical reasons, but their traditional cuisine is so damned good |
| [18:07:00] | bhursey: | quit talking about food i only have a 15 min lunch break at 1:30 |
| [18:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: Not all servings of focaccia are on panini bread :) At least not in my experience :) |
| [18:07:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, I'm off for a bit |
| [18:07:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: huh??? |
| [18:07:00] | bhursey: | =) |
| [18:07:00] | CyberKnet: | adios Beirdios |
| [18:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | sorry, my brain is mixed up due to lack of sugar |
| [18:08:00] | bhursey: | what about caffien? |
| [18:08:00] | bhursey: | your brain is missing the life blod of geeks |
| [18:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was thinking bruschetta instead of focaccia |
| [18:09:00] | mchou: | bruschetta is served on panini in canada? |
| [18:09:00] | Atamido: | "GDM could not write to your authorization file. This could mean that you are out of disk space or that your home directory could not be opened for writing. In any case, it is not possible to log in. Please contact your system administrator. |
| [18:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | In some places. I've seen it on a wide variety of breads around the world |
| [18:09:00] | Atamido: | <-- System administrator |
| [18:09:00] | mchou: | bruschetta is served on garlic toast :) |
| [18:09:00] | mchou: | in US :) |
| [18:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not everywhere :) |
| [18:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've had it in Australia, Mexico, Brazil, and Belgium |
| [18:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | all different in some fashion or another |
| [18:10:00] | mchou: | wonder what bruschetta is like in Italy :0 |
| [18:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [18:10:00] | mchou: | :) |
| [18:10:00] | Atamido: | I love the fact that the error message uses the phrase, "in any case". |
| [18:10:00] | xris: | mchou: bruchetta *is* garlic toast |
| [18:11:00] | ** Atamido pokes bhursey. ^ ** | |
| [18:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | bruchetta isnt garlic toast.. |
| [18:11:00] | mchou: | xris: heh, you are correct :) |
| [18:11:00] | xris: | JohnnyQuest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruschetta |
| [18:11:00] | bhursey: | what does df say? |
| [18:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [18:11:00] | xris: | in its most basic form, it's extra-thin slices of bread, with oil and garlic. |
| [18:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | sounds good |
| [18:11:00] | bhursey: | because I have had taht error it means your home folder is full |
| [18:11:00] | xris: | sort of like a toast-cracker. |
| [18:12:00] | Atamido: | What is df? |
| [18:12:00] | bhursey: | a comand |
| [18:12:00] | bhursey: | that shows disk usage |
| [18:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ive had some wierd bruchetta with a black olive paste on it before... |
| [18:12:00] | bhursey: | type df in command line |
| [18:12:00] | mchou: | JohnnyQuest: that's the nasty stuff..... |
| [18:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its dick functionality |
| [18:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [18:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i didnt like it |
| [18:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i make my own |
| [18:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its easy to make |
| [18:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | tastes good |
| [18:13:00] | bhursey: | Atamido are you dual booting are are you in linux now? |
| [18:13:00] | mchou: | I like salsa on my bruschetta :) |
| [18:13:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [18:13:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i also make my own salsa |
| [18:13:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont eat the store bought crap, so many preservatives in it |
| [18:13:00] | Atamido: | I am in Windows, the HTPC is in the other room. |
| [18:13:00] | Atamido: | I am looking for my SSH program. |
| [18:13:00] | bhursey: | lol |
| [18:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Most places I've seen a mix of tomatoes and random other stuff, some with cheese on it |
| [18:13:00] | mchou: | JohnnyQuest: exactly. never store bought. |
| [18:13:00] | xris: | JohnnyQuest: just a matter of knowing where to shop. |
| [18:13:00] | Atamido: | But I can't for the life of me remember what it is called. |
| [18:13:00] | mchou: | always fresh. |
| [18:13:00] | bhursey: | ok ssh into it and type df |
| [18:14:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and willing to pay enough for things other people make without preservatives.. |
| [18:14:00] | bhursey: | i dont get windows users =D |
| [18:14:00] | JohnnyQuest: | healthy, natural food costs more |
| [18:14:00] | CyberKnet: | Atamido: If you're using windows, I'd suggest putty. it is great. |
| [18:14:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i use windows |
| [18:14:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its good for gaming |
| [18:14:00] | bhursey: | sigh |
| [18:14:00] | bhursey: | cvs version of cedega |
| [18:14:00] | Atamido: | Putty! |
| [18:14:00] | JohnnyQuest: | if they made the games i like in linux |
| [18:15:00] | bhursey: | yes |
| [18:15:00] | CyberKnet: | bhursey: you don't need to "get" windows users. |
| [18:15:00] | bhursey: | i need to reppel them away. |
| [18:15:00] | bhursey: | hehe |
| [18:15:00] | Atamido: | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| [18:15:00] | Atamido: | /dev/hda1 2102856 2101260 0 100% / |
| [18:15:00] | Atamido: | /dev/hda3 3149652 24 3149628 1% /cache |
| [18:15:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [18:15:00] | Atamido: | /dev/hda4 4241708 2313464 1928244 55% /myth |
| [18:15:00] | Atamido: | I think that explains that. |
| [18:15:00] | bhursey: | haha |
| [18:15:00] | CyberKnet: | find out what filled / and kick its ass. |
| [18:16:00] | mchou: | 2 GB on / ??? |
| [18:16:00] | bhursey: | /dev/hda1 is compleatley full |
| [18:16:00] | mchou: | are you daft? |
| [18:16:00] | Atamido: | It's a test install. |
| [18:16:00] | mchou: | shouldnt be bigger than 100MB. |
| [18:16:00] | bhursey: | You need a bigger hd bro |
| [18:16:00] | mchou: | ./ shouldnt be bigger than 100MB. |
| [18:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya, you do need a bigger hd... |
| [18:17:00] | Atamido: | mchou: KnoppMyth did it all. |
| [18:17:00] | bhursey: | HEy i got a question.... Does all the files on your back end like in your media folder on that local system on the back end play through the media library on the front end? |
| [18:17:00] | mchou: | lord help us. |
| [18:17:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: bah. spend all day partitioning? =) |
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| [18:17:00] | Atamido: | JohnnyQuest: Who needs to record more than one program? :P |
| [18:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [18:17:00] | bhursey: | most of them ^ |
| [18:17:00] | CyberKnet: | bhursey: like, I'd check the documentation if I were you. |
| [18:18:00] | bhursey: | are you saying its in there or you dont know? |
| [18:18:00] | bhursey: | =D |
| [18:18:00] | CyberKnet: | bhursey: oooh. I'll let you figure it out. |
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| [18:18:00] | bhursey: | LOL |
| [18:18:00] | Atamido: | How do I find out what is filling up my hd? |
| [18:18:00] | ** Atamido suspects a log file. ** | |
| [18:18:00] | bhursey: | hehe, iv read through most of the documentation its just my current system is an all and one |
| [18:19:00] | CyberKnet: | Atamido: man du |
| [18:19:00] | bhursey: | mythtv should have a status module in the info section of the front end |
| [18:19:00] | CyberKnet: | bhursey: ignorance is no excuse. |
| [18:19:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [18:19:00] | bhursey: | LOL i know.. |
| [18:19:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i just bought a fx5200 for my mythbox!!! it was 30 bux |
| [18:19:00] | bhursey: | i tell people google all the time |
| [18:19:00] | mchou: | JohnnyQuest: ooh, where from? |
| [18:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | instead of using knoppmyth i would suggest fc3, but your hd might be too small for that, but its easier to set up |
| [18:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | us |
| [18:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | oo |
| [18:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | umm |
| [18:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | zipzoomfly |
| [18:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | free 2 day shipping |
| [18:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im excited |
| [18:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | the last card i bought, was 10 bux, geforce2, im selling it on ebay now |
| [18:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it didnt work well enough :)( |
| [18:20:00] | ** Atamido discovers just typine du in isn't very useful. ** | |
| [18:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | :( |
| [18:21:00] | mchou: | JohnnyQuest: this one? http://www.ZipZoomFly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.j . . . tCode=321001 |
| [18:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | yep |
| [18:21:00] | CyberKnet: | Atamido: that's why I told you to look at man du, and not just du |
| [18:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | hopefully it works well for tvout |
| [18:21:00] | mchou: | JohnnyQuest: does it come with dvi and svideo? |
| [18:22:00] | ** Atamido finds the man du not very useful either. ;) ** | |
| [18:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | iduno |
| [18:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ill chcek |
| [18:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i didnt need dvi |
| [18:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my tvs are all too old |
| [18:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont have a clue |
| [18:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | xfx is horrible on giving specs out |
| [18:23:00] | CyberKnet: | Atamido: then there is no help for you. du is the tool you would use to find out what directory/file is chewing up all your space. |
| [18:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ill just see when it gets here in 2 days |
| [18:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | or monday :( |
| [18:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i finished making my mythbox case today |
| [18:23:00] | bhursey: | CyberKnet: it talks about that it can rad stuff that you have recorded from tv to the front end. But it does not mention anything about if you have to have the media library(ie: videos and music) on the front end. |
| [18:23:00] | ** Atamido hopes that someone, somewhere, will write man pages with useful examples. ** | |
| [18:24:00] | bhursey: | lol google |
| [18:24:00] | bhursey: | ps cyber i have googled this |
| [18:24:00] | CyberKnet: | Atamido: bah |
| [18:24:00] | JohnnyQuest: | man is soo useless, unless you have used it before.. |
| [18:24:00] | bhursey: | man is written for techies.. |
| [18:24:00] | mchou: | JohnnyQuest: wow, it has dvi and svid, it seems |
| [18:25:00] | CyberKnet: | bhursey: then you would know that if you intend on using MythVideo to play back files on multiple frontends they would all need access to the actual file via nfs or some other transport. |
| [18:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i know it has svid |
| [18:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its looking like just vga.. |
| [18:25:00] | Atamido: | man is written for people that already know the command are just looking for one small detail. |
| [18:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | different sites say different things |
| [18:25:00] | bhursey: | ya that is what I was thinking was the solution |
| [18:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | dvi would be a bonus if i ever get a good tv |
| [18:25:00] | bhursey: | i just did not want to have to use a nfs unless i had too. |
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| [18:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but it was an awesome price |
| [18:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | especially with 2 day shipping for free |
| [18:26:00] | xris: | bhursey: eventually, they'll all stream from the backend... but for now, you need nfs. |
| [18:26:00] | bhursey: | k |
| [18:26:00] | JohnnyQuest: | is there a way i can record stuff to my windows box from my mythbox? like use my windows hd? |
| [18:26:00] | xris: | man, it's sad that my $100+ graphics card can now be easily toasted by a $30 card |
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| [18:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | JohnnyQuest: Sure, mount a windows share and have that as your receording destination |
| [18:26:00] | bhursey: | im gona have fun tonight.. I am moving my capture card to the back end. so that it wil acualy be able to use myth tv viere with out lagging like crazy. =) |
| [18:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [18:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ill ask more about that once i get my mythbox up and running again |
| [18:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | that will be a few days |
| [18:28:00] | bhursey: | you should be able to mount a windows partition suing samba |
| [18:28:00] | bhursey: | using |
| [18:28:00] | ** GreyFoxx has a couple more HD's to work into my network. Just not sure where to put them ** | |
| [18:28:00] | ** Atamido wonders how to do such a thing. ** | |
| [18:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | give them to me |
| [18:28:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: put them in my network |
| [18:28:00] | bhursey: | in gnome i think its smb://username@192.168.1.2/sharename/ |
| [18:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i know how to do the samba stuff, i already did tat to stream music from my windows to my mythbox |
| [18:29:00] | bhursey: | not 100% on that |
| [18:29:00] | xris: | holy crap, someone spammed my gmail account. the scary thing is that I don't *use* the account. |
| [18:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Atamido: assuming you have smbfs support compiled in : mount -t smbfs //machine/share /mount/point |
| [18:29:00] | bhursey: | xris: dictionary atack spamming. =D |
| [18:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | you might need to use a username/password based on what you setup with the share |
| [18:29:00] | xris: | bhursey: since when is "ibexris" in a dictionary? |
| [18:29:00] | Atamido: | Atamido: Make a note to yourself so you can find this in your log. |
| [18:30:00] | jonK: | I'm reading samba code right now :) |
| [18:30:00] | bhursey: | i dono maby it did a letter atack |
| [18:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: ummm no. I think I'll find spots for them here :) |
| [18:30:00] | xris: | fake paypal scam span, too. |
| [18:30:00] | bhursey: | takse a crap load of time |
| [18:30:00] | xris: | spam |
| [18:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: yeah, just got a couple of those |
| [18:30:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: just offering, in case they need a home |
| [18:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [18:30:00] | bhursey: | maby some one sold the gmail listings |
| [18:30:00] | bhursey: | dum dum dum |
| [18:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use gmail, but I got the same scam mails. :) |
| [18:31:00] | xris: | I don't even use gmail 99.9% of the time, but it's on my google homepage now.. kinda handy. |
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| [18:32:00] | xris: | kormoc's really late today. |
| [18:32:00] | xris: | ahh, there he is. |
| [18:32:00] | CyberKnet: | wow. half an hour late. |
| [18:32:00] | bhursey: | xris are you talking about a paypal email with this title "Notification of Limited Account Access" |
| [18:33:00] | bhursey: | talking about some credit card lost |
| [18:33:00] | Atamido: | Does the WinTV-PVR USB2 work in Linux yet? |
| [18:33:00] | bhursey: | first of all i dont own a pay pal acount |
| [18:33:00] | JohnnyQuest: | go make one? |
| [18:33:00] | CyberKnet: | Atamido: not to my knowledge. |
| [18:33:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its free |
| [18:33:00] | JohnnyQuest: | the wintv pvr usb2 isnt good quality either |
| [18:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | just from what i have read about it.. |
| [18:34:00] | xris: | bhursey: no, just "please come update your account" |
| [18:34:00] | Atamido: | Dang, I wish Fry's sold the PVR-500 |
| [18:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | get 2 pvr 150s |
| [18:34:00] | bhursey: | weill i had one of those too |
| [18:34:00] | CyberKnet: | Atamido: buy it online. |
| [18:34:00] | bhursey: | its a fraud |
| [18:34:00] | xris: | bhursey: yes, of course. |
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| [18:35:00] | xris: | for one, no one uses my gmail acct, not even me. |
| [18:35:00] | bhursey: | gmail puts a nice little notice at the top. "Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware of following any links in it or of providing the sender with any personal information. Learn more |
| [18:35:00] | bhursey: | " |
| [18:35:00] | ** CyberKnet doesn't open anything from paypal, or claiming to be from paypal ** | |
| [18:35:00] | billvortex is now known as kormoc2 | |
| [18:35:00] | CyberKnet: | billvortex? |
| [18:35:00] | ** kormoc2 points at kormoc. ** | |
| [18:35:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: I do, if it's sent to the unique address that I gave to paypal |
| [18:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe me too |
| [18:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have a paypal specific alias setup |
| [18:36:00] | Atamido: | Bah, the 500 has two cable inputs. :( |
| [18:36:00] | kormoc2: | CyberKnet, billvortex was a, what name should I use if kormoc's taken... |
| [18:36:00] | Atamido: | That means I will need to get a splitter. |
| [18:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Atamido: no |
| [18:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | It has 1 cable input and a internal spitter. |
| [18:36:00] | xris: | of course, that doesn't help now that some companies like bn.com and cooking.com have either been hacked or violated their own policies.. since I get spam to those unique addresses now. |
| [18:36:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: anything paypal is emailing me about I can find out about by visiting their website. I dont open anything from them or claiming to be from them. |
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| [18:36:00] | Atamido: | GreyFoxx: Why does this show it with two? http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2004/10/25/17174 . . . MCE_2005.jpg |
| [18:37:00] | CyberKnet: | Atamido: one is the radio receiver |
| [18:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Atamido: FM |
| [18:37:00] | Atamido: | Ooooooooh. |
| [18:37:00] | bhursey: | I love stupid people... Students and faculty called for 2 weeks streat about an e-mail they got from Microsoft saying that they need to update windows and to download the atached file.. LOL people feaking downloaded it and got a virus.. |
| [18:37:00] | bhursey: | then of course we had to clean it off. Sigh..... |
| [18:38:00] | ** Atamido had a friend that got taken by ebay scam emails....Twice! ** | |
| [18:38:00] | Atamido: | 2x$2000 |
| [18:38:00] | bhursey: | now thats sad |
| [18:38:00] | bhursey: | i dont use e-bay |
| [18:38:00] | bhursey: | i avoid it |
| [18:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | why do you avoid ebay? |
| [18:39:00] | Atamido: | She is a nice girl, but not the most computer savy. |
| [18:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Speaking of which *goes to pay for auction item* |
| [18:39:00] | bhursey: | i dont like trusting people online. |
| [18:39:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: heh |
| [18:39:00] | bhursey: | even if they have a high raiting. |
| [18:39:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: I usually pay for mine the second the auction finishes =P" |
| [18:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mine finished this morning, haven't taken the time to do it yet |
| [18:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have a love hate relationship with ebay |
| [18:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | usually more on the hate side, which is too bad cause I use to love it :) |
| [18:40:00] | bhursey: | i am poor and all i buy is computer hardware..... |
| [18:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ebay is a good place for it.. |
| [18:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | cheap on there |
| [18:40:00] | bhursey: | sooo i like eaither geting old hardware from frends are buying it new. |
| [18:41:00] | bhursey: | i know i searched it for a laptop power supply once. |
| [18:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ebay is too full of people who scam on shipping costs, or wont ship anywhere but the continental us which bites |
| [18:41:00] | ** xris figured out why he can't afford new computer hardware like other geeks... kitchen full of cooking gadgets. ** | |
| [18:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: heh |
| [18:42:00] | bhursey: | speeking of scams i just got this from e-bay |
| [18:42:00] | bhursey: | Action Required – Credit/Debit Card Expiration Reminder |
| [18:42:00] | bhursey: | i dont have an e-bay acount LOL |
| [18:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ive gotten that one |
| [18:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | that email |
| [18:43:00] | jonK: | well you'll need to give them one to get an ebay account |
| [18:43:00] | bhursey: | lol |
| [18:43:00] | bhursey: | -Logon with your eBay User ID and Password |
| [18:43:00] | bhursey: | -Update your credit card information following instructions on the next page |
| [18:43:00] | bhursey: | -Check the box where you authorize eBay to automatically charge your credit/debit card each month for any fees you owe. |
| [18:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ebay is full of people who charge too much on shiping, but thats why you consider that when you bid |
| [18:43:00] | bhursey: | its a scam!!! |
| [18:43:00] | xris: | bhursey: go fill it out.. use 371449635398431 as an amex card... |
| [18:44:00] | xris: | it'll pass any verification you want, with any expiration date. |
| [18:44:00] | bhursey: | haha |
| [18:44:00] | bhursey: | that frawd though |
| [18:44:00] | bhursey: | hehe |
| [18:44:00] | xris: | or 4012888888881881 as a visa |
| [18:44:00] | xris: | not fraud. they're test numbers. |
| [18:44:00] | bhursey: | well i dont need an e-bay acound. so =P |
| [18:44:00] | bhursey: | LOL |
| [18:44:00] | bhursey: | =) |
| [18:45:00] | xris: | google for the numbers and you'll get all kinds of similar ones. |
| [18:45:00] | kormoc2: | bhursey, the idea is to give the scammers enough fake numbers, they attract visa's attention |
| [18:45:00] | xris: | well, the fraudsters don't care that you don't have an acct. heh. |
| [18:45:00] | bhursey: | okyday |
| [18:45:00] | bhursey: | dont put your real name right |
| [18:45:00] | bhursey: | LOL |
| [18:46:00] | bhursey: | im bord and im so bord i may do this |
| [18:46:00] | xris: | should have kept track of my old card number that was compromised a few years ago. |
| [18:46:00] | Beirdo: | sooo |
| [18:46:00] | Beirdo: | dropped off the film, bought a used D70, then some falafel and some lentil soup |
| [18:46:00] | Beirdo: | a good lunch |
| [18:46:00] | xris: | Beirdo: you bought a THIRD camera? |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | actually a 4th |
| [18:47:00] | ** xris smacks Beirdo. ** | |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | but the 3rd is for my mom |
| [18:47:00] | bhursey: | link dosent work |
| [18:47:00] | bhursey: | http://cgi1.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?Updat |
| [18:47:00] | bhursey: | http://cgi1.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?Update |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | I bought her a replacement Nikkormat FTN body a couple days ago |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | xris: this is the digital camera I've been lusting after for a while |
| [18:48:00] | bhursey: | bbl |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | used... $809CDN for just the body. is $1050CDN new |
| [18:48:00] | bhursey: | going to acualy do some php codeing insted of looking like I am. =D |
| [18:48:00] | xris: | Beirdo: well, at least it'll save you on film |
| [18:48:00] | xris: | bhursey: I should do the same. |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | no it won't as I'll still be using film too |
| [18:49:00] | xris: | kormoc2 here might report me to myself for not working. |
| [18:49:00] | xris: | Beirdo: it will more than if you had bought another film cam. |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
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| [18:49:00] | Atamido: | I have read some comments that the picture quality on the PVR-500 seems to be a little better than the PVR-150. Any possibility of that? |
| [18:50:00] | xris: | Atamido: there are several versions of each card... but they're basically the same. |
| [18:53:00] | Atamido: | Any difference with the PVR-350 |
| [18:53:00] | Atamido: | ? |
| [18:54:00] | xris: | only reason (and really, the ONLY reason) to get a 350 is if you want to use the tv out. |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | Mmmm. lentil soup... and falafel |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | expect a musical afternoon |
| [18:56:00] | Atamido: | My roommate keeps eating lentil soup. |
| [18:56:00] | Atamido: | Stupid vegetarians. |
| [18:56:00] | ** xris takes offense to that. ** | |
| [18:56:00] | Atamido: | :P |
| [18:56:00] | xris: | now, there *are* some stupid vegetarians (must be some veggie R's).... |
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| [18:57:00] | ** Atamido is a Texan. :) ** | |
| [18:58:00] | ** xris will let Atamido stay in texas with the mad cows. ** | |
| [18:58:00] | xris: | s/mad/angry/ ? ;) |
| [18:58:00] | mchou: | haha. |
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| [18:59:00] | mchou: | commercial voice-over: beef, it's what makes you mad :) |
| [19:00:00] | Beirdo: | muhahah |
| [19:00:00] | mchou: | that's another thing that chaps my hide. Why FDA chooses not to reveal where the source of the latest case of mad cow. |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | because it's the US |
| [19:01:00] | xris: | mchou: um, that'd probably be because of the USDA. |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | the "Canadian" mad cows came from the US too |
| [19:01:00] | xris: | same reason the old food pyramid said we should eat like a billion servings of grain daily. |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | it's all about the $$$$ |
| [19:01:00] | mchou: | heh, yah, support the grain industy :) |
| [19:02:00] | xris: | USDA is responsible for regulation and *promotion* of us agriculture. |
| [19:02:00] | mchou: | industry* |
| [19:02:00] | Beirdo: | OK, now I wanna go home and put a lens on this camera |
| [19:02:00] | Beirdo: | dammit |
| [19:02:00] | xris: | nice that the same industry in charge of regulating an industry is also in charge of making sure it grows. |
| [19:02:00] | xris: | sort of like how the FDA accepts research funds from the drug companies. |
| [19:03:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [19:03:00] | Beirdo: | the stink of corruption is in the air |
| [19:03:00] | mchou: | verily. |
| [19:03:00] | Beirdo: | to misquote Shakespeare... |
| [19:03:00] | xris: | or how the current administration has someone paid to rewrite EPA reports to remove anything that might sound offensive. |
| [19:03:00] | xris: | been watching babylon5 recently.. series was about 10 years too early. heh. |
| [19:03:00] | xris: | banning flag burning... bull$hit. |
| [19:03:00] | Beirdo: | what is it... something is foul in the state of Denmark? something like that |
| [19:04:00] | mchou: | not paid, an official. |
| [19:04:00] | bhursey: | sweet!!! got my query debug log sort of working. =D |
| [19:04:00] | ** Beirdo burns a flag in protest ** | |
| [19:04:00] | Beirdo: | muhahah |
| [19:04:00] | bhursey: | xris: go code... |
| [19:04:00] | xris: | bhursey: I am |
| [19:04:00] | ** xris can multitask. ** | |
| [19:04:00] | Beirdo: | come on, you stupid flag, light! |
| [19:04:00] | Beirdo: | OK, who gave me the fireproof flag?! |
| [19:05:00] | bhursey: | xris: you ever leave code up on your screen and look like your working on it but your just procrastinating. |
| [19:05:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: you need tofart on it. |
| [19:05:00] | mchou: | to fart* |
| [19:05:00] | Beirdo: | heh, gimme some time to process these lentils |
| [19:06:00] | xris: | bhursey: which screen? I have 2. and 8 virtual desktops. |
| [19:06:00] | bhursey: | i have 2 and 6 |
| [19:06:00] | xris: | well, I only use 6 most of the time. |
| [19:06:00] | xris: | but usually when I'm staring at it and not coding, it's usually because my mind has overloaded. |
| [19:06:00] | bhursey: | i use my second screen LCD 18 inch for code and my 21 crt for ditsplaying what om working on. |
| [19:07:00] | xris: | dual 19" of code goodness. and dual web browsers on another vdesktop |
| [19:07:00] | bhursey: | hehe, for me its im normaly stuck on somthing and i cant find a good way to solve it. |
| [19:08:00] | bhursey: | like now. im trying to use fwrite but i want to rite the laitist enty to the beging of the file. |
| [19:08:00] | xris: | file systems rarely allow for that. |
| [19:08:00] | bhursey: | iv herd of fseek() but i dont know the best way to implement it |
| [19:08:00] | Christopher: | Would anybody mind looking at a screenshot of my liveTV output to tell me what's wrong with the chroma...? |
| [19:08:00] | Atamido: | My roommate has been sick for 2 weeks. I think he's not getting enough steak. |
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| [19:09:00] | xris: | best way is to write the file correctly.. write to tmp, rename tmp over the original |
| [19:09:00] | xris: | Atamido: or the other way around. |
| [19:09:00] | bhursey: | ok that realy dosent make sence the way im tinking.. |
| [19:10:00] | bhursey: | the laitist entyr will still be at the end of the file. |
| [19:10:00] | bhursey: | i want to keep all of my previous logs just have it the newsit at the top |
| [19:10:00] | xris: | bhursey: use a database. heh. |
| [19:11:00] | bhursey: | im trying to avoid that |
| [19:11:00] | bhursey: | LOL its a log on queries |
| [19:11:00] | xris: | use the filesystem as the db. |
| [19:11:00] | bhursey: | i dont want to add more queries |
| [19:11:00] | xris: | why not just turn on the db's own query log? |
| [19:11:00] | bhursey: | well because im getting errors in the db |
| [19:12:00] | bhursey: | im having a table reset checked out form a 1 to all 0's |
| [19:12:00] | bhursey: | thats why im writing the log because its a big system i can trace what query cause the error if its my code, |
| [19:12:00] | bhursey: | makes sence? |
| [19:12:00] | Christopher: | ??? anybody wanna tell me if their liveTV looks better than mine? Here's a screenshot of the problem... chriscamisa.com/screenshots/weather.1.png chriscamisa.com/screenshots/weather.2.png and chriscamisa.com/screenshots/weather.3.png |
| [19:13:00] | xris: | Christopher: what kind of input? |
| [19:13:00] | xris: | and what kind of card? |
| [19:14:00] | xris: | and what res of recording? |
| [19:14:00] | bhursey: | do if I was generating the log from the db it would just output the exact same thing.. IE(the error im trying to fix.) any ways i will keep on working on it |
| [19:14:00] | bhursey: | i guess having it add to the end is fine fo now. |
| [19:14:00] | xris: | bhursey: that's what tail is for |
| [19:14:00] | Christopher: | xris: I'm using a pvr-500 with the ivtv .3.6s drivers. I'm using the mythtv max bitrate settings. You're seeing that frame with deinterlacing of linear blend... and it's a frame capture from the xserver. |
| [19:15:00] | Christopher: | Tuner input... channel 33. |
| [19:15:00] | xris: | at what res? |
| [19:15:00] | Christopher: | xris: 1280x1024 |
| [19:15:00] | xris: | pvr-500 can't record at that res |
| [19:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | What capture resolution |
| [19:16:00] | Christopher: | GreyFoxx: apparently 480x480 cause I have it set to 720x480 and it doesn't look visibly different than the 480x480.... technically it's all 4/3 aspect ratio anyways... so I should match the input resolution to what the tuner is capturing. |
| [19:17:00] | Christopher: | xris: the resolution I'm capturing at I only see when I goto transcode the nuv file. It said 480x480 last time... so I turned it up to 720x480... but it doesn't look different. |
| [19:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | Christopher:, if you set it to 720x80 then it should be recording as 720x480... you can verify what the card is set to |
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| [19:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | Christopher: I assume you are watching this on a monitor and not a TV ? |
| [19:17:00] | xris: | Christopher: there *is* a capture resolution... it's the first screen you hit when you configure the capture settings. |
| [19:17:00] | Christopher: | GreyFoxx: I'd like to test recording strictly with the record-v4l.pl file... cause there I can set it to use a CBR... but when I did that... it didn't take any of the --output arguments I sent to it. |
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| [19:18:00] | Christopher: | xris: is the tuner strictly a yuv object? |
| [19:18:00] | xris: | no clue |
| [19:19:00] | xris: | I use svideo on my pvr-150, but it looks WAY better than your stuff.. more than svid vs tuner should account for. |
| [19:19:00] | xris: | but I'm capturing at 720x480. |
| [19:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Christopher: I assume you are watching this on a monitor and not a TV ? |
| [19:19:00] | xris: | and am using a really old version of the driver since I haven't had time to see if things got fixed. |
| [19:20:00] | Christopher: | GreyFoxx: Yes I'm watching it on a monitor. You should see in the image the television is rendered like a wallpaper on the xservers background. I know it's a bit blown up. Those artifacts are still there if I just watch it with mplayer also. |
| [19:20:00] | Atamido: | xris: Given that he hasn't eat steak in like a decade, I think it's to little. |
| [19:21:00] | Christopher: | they should have sent that out just before the halt earlier when everyone was disconnected from the server... they probably could have juiced a few bucks out of us... ;0 |
| [19:21:00] | xris: | Atamido: it's been longer than that for me. and I never get sick. |
| [19:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Christopher: And have you tried playing it with your monitor resolution closer to the capture res and try to avoid as many scaling artifacts as possible ?:) |
| [19:21:00] | Christopher: | GreyFoxx: I would like to window it. |
| [19:21:00] | Atamido: | o_O |
| [19:21:00] | xris: | Christopher: mplayer /dev/video0 |
| [19:21:00] | xris: | no fullscreen, etc. |
| [19:21:00] | xris: | just look at what res it is. |
| [19:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, plus it would help avoid scaling artifacts |
| [19:22:00] | xris: | and then use ivtvctl to adjust it if needed. |
| [19:22:00] | bhursey: | i will see yall later on... Are yall gona be on tonight? |
| [19:22:00] | ** CyberKnet is officially not talking to Beirdo any more ** | |
| [19:22:00] | ** xris pokes CyberKnet ** | |
| [19:22:00] | CyberKnet: | someone please tell him "4" for me. |
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| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | 00100 |
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| [19:22:00] | bhursey: | bye |
| [19:22:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [19:23:00] | xris: | Beirdo: is that the binary equivalent of giving the middle finger? |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | aye |
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| [19:23:00] | Christopher: | xris: mplayer /dev/video0 shows whatever I tell ivtvctl -c aspect to be... so it could be many sizes. tell the ivtv driver to not record in mpeg but instead the raw yuv stream? |
| [19:23:00] | CyberKnet: | binary counting on the hand |
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| [19:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chris, but the question is, what resolution, not what aspect ratio |
| [19:24:00] | jonK: | using either big or little endian |
| [19:24:00] | Atamido: | I just locked up my session by doing "du -cSh | nano" |
| [19:25:00] | xris: | Christopher: you *must* see the resolution selection screen when you set up the recording profiles. |
| [19:25:00] | Christopher: | xris: looks square about 720x720 or so. |
| [19:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | the mplayer output will tell you what ti is |
| [19:25:00] | xris: | Christopher: can't be. max is 720x480 |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | Atamido: so don't do that |
| [19:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | 720x720 on acomputer monitor would look like a standing up rectangle :) |
| [19:26:00] | Christopher: | xris: you are correct. 720x480. |
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| [19:26:00] | Christopher: | VDec: vo config request – 720 x 480 (preferred csp: Planar YV12) |
| [19:26:00] | Christopher: | VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0) |
| [19:26:00] | Christopher: | Movie-Aspect is 1.33:1 – prescaling to correct movie aspect. |
| [19:26:00] | xris: | Christopher: and it looks like crap still? |
| [19:26:00] | Christopher: | Yeah |
| [19:27:00] | xris: | now in a separate terminal, run ivtvctl and see if you can turn up the bitrate to 4000 -> 8000 |
| [19:27:00] | xris: | (there are high and low settings) |
| [19:27:00] | Christopher: | All the white letters get screwed up... all the yellow letters get screwed up. |
| [19:27:00] | xris: | keep the mplayer view open. |
| [19:27:00] | Atamido: | Beirdo: To late. |
| [19:27:00] | xris: | so use ivtvctl to test settings until you get them right. |
| [19:27:00] | Christopher: | xris: I'll try that... usually I have to restart mplayer to observe a change. |
| [19:27:00] | xris: | really? I found that there was about a 2 second delay, but it worked after that. |
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| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | Atamido: open another window/console/ssh connection... and kill the nano process |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | I don't think you can pipe into nano |
| [19:28:00] | Christopher: | xris: channels change... but I didn't notice a bitrate change... I'm tryin it again though. |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | redirect to a file next time, then edit the file |
| [19:29:00] | Atamido: | Beirdo: It piped, it just stopped responding after it was all done. |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | did you try Ctrl-C |
| [19:29:00] | Atamido: | Besides, I don't know how to kill a process. :P |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | gah! |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | man kill |
| [19:29:00] | Atamido: | Ctrl-C/X/Z/something |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | and man ps |
| [19:30:00] | Atamido: | Kill man? |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | man kill |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | brings up the manual page |
| [19:30:00] | Atamido: | I think your grammar is lacking. |
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| [19:30:00] | Atamido: | Verb before the noun. |
| [19:30:00] | ** Beirdo slaps Atamido with a thick UNIX manual ** | |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | RTFM |
| [19:30:00] | ** Atamido spins around wildly from the slap. ** | |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | the commands to read up on are "ps" and "kill" |
| [19:31:00] | ** Atamido hugs his Windows box which works surprisingly well. ** | |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | no harm in being a newbie :) |
| [19:31:00] | epoch: | haha |
| [19:31:00] | xris: | and killall (though not in solaris) |
| [19:31:00] | Christopher: | xris: ivtvctl only lets me change a bitrate & a peak bitrate... the record-v4l2.pl can set the bitrate-mode at the time it initializes the decoder... the options for bitrate-mode are 0 for VBR and 1 for CBR. |
| [19:31:00] | epoch: | I like how a windows box working well is "surprising" |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | just learn to use the provided tools :) |
| [19:31:00] | Atamido: | How about reboot? |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | and "man" is one of the most important tools to learn |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | you shouldn't need to reboot, just kill the process that's being a pain |
| [19:31:00] | xris: | Christopher: didn't think there was a cbr mode — just vbr with the bitrate and peak set to the same valie. |
| [19:31:00] | xris: | value |
| [19:31:00] | Atamido: | Reboot worked. :) |
| [19:32:00] | xris: | Christopher: but that should have nothing to do with the recording quality if your res and bitrate are high enough. |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, and killing a mosquito by driving a dump truck into it works too |
| [19:32:00] | xris: | vbr will always be better than cbr at any given filesize. |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | but hardly the best way to solve the problem :) |
| [19:33:00] | Christopher: | xris: well... the encoding algorithm wants room between the bitrate and the bitrate-peak... setting them both equal to the max is not equal to a max constucted CBR sample. |
| [19:33:00] | Atamido: | In Texas, we use guns to kill misquitos. |
| [19:34:00] | Atamido: | *mosquitoes |
| [19:34:00] | Christopher: | xris: I'm saying the visual quality of a vbr sample .vs. a cbr sample at maximum encoding rates... is either a "best guess" in the case of VBR... or a 1:1 copy in the case of a CBR. |
| [19:34:00] | ** GreyFoxx uses guns for soldering ** | |
| [19:34:00] | Atamido: | It's a lot louder, but man is it fun. |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, but we all know Texans are crazy :) |
| [19:35:00] | Atamido: | It's no Missouri, but it's pretty wild. |
| [19:35:00] | Christopher: | xris: If I have 720x480 signal coming in... I want to record each pixel individually and each color depth individually... (for historical archive video) then I send it through xvid. |
| [19:35:00] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [19:35:00] | Chutt: | analog tv doesn't have a resolution |
| [19:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Christopher: but you don't have a 720x480 signal coming in. 480 lines, but not 720wide |
| [19:37:00] | Christopher: | GreyFoxx: well... we know NTSC standard format is 4:3... and that it uses something like 640x480 resolution... |
| [19:38:00] | Christopher: | ala, standard VGA??? |
| [19:38:00] | Chutt: | analog tv doesn't have a resolution. |
| [19:38:00] | Chutt: | it's _analog_ |
| [19:38:00] | ** GreyFoxx sighs and gives up. ** | |
| [19:38:00] | Christopher: | Chutt: that electron-ray hits each side of the tv 30 times each second... it draws lines. (which are continuous...) but they're still redndered lines. |
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| [19:39:00] | Chutt: | it's got a certain number of lines |
| [19:39:00] | Chutt: | but there is no horizontal resolution. |
| [19:39:00] | Chutt: | because, <gasp>, it's analog! |
| [19:39:00] | Chutt: | scary |
| [19:40:00] | epoch: | you're analog! |
| [19:40:00] | Christopher: | PAL really does claim it's format is a resolution of 720x486... just like NTSC really does claim it's a standard which cliams what pixel and frame aspects ratios are used.... basically 648x486 max. |
| [19:40:00] | Chutt: | 486? |
| [19:40:00] | Chutt: | where are you pulling that out of? |
| [19:40:00] | Christopher: | Chutt: http://www.strata.com/support/3dmanual/ch13/ch13_7.html |
| [19:41:00] | Chutt: | that's completely incorrect. |
| [19:41:00] | Christopher: | okay |
| [19:42:00] | Christopher: | my.current.video -> rendered.by.VBR..... the.video.I.want -> rendered.by.CBR |
| [19:43:00] | Christopher: | Chutt: I guess it's all about how it's passed from the tuner to the ivtv to the h/w encoder. |
| [19:43:00] | Chutt: | no, it's not |
| [19:44:00] | Christopher: | Well than in your world... if you looked outside right now, there'd be no silver lining in any of your clouds... because you erased them with a lossy codec. |
| [19:44:00] | Chutt: | you have no idea what your'e talking about, do you? |
| [19:44:00] | Chutt: | do you know what an analog signal is? |
| [19:44:00] | Christopher: | Chutt: the issue is regarding flickering vertical lines in my video. |
| [19:45:00] | Christopher: | Chutt: the picture part of the image is always fine.... the parts where the codec says... "yep... this maps all to the same color space" screws up when it gets to the tiny outlines around the fonts generated by whoever lays the city names up on the weather map. |
| [19:45:00] | epoch: | PAL is like, 540 isn't it? |
| [19:45:00] | epoch: | 520 maybe? |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | 576. |
| [19:46:00] | epoch: | there we go :) |
| [19:46:00] | epoch: | all I know is it's 500-something, at 50hz |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | unless my brain is atrophied today |
| [19:46:00] | laga: | Christopher: umm. it's possible that this is because it's analog tv. |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | which is a distinct possibility |
| [19:46:00] | epoch: | 576 sounds plausible |
| [19:46:00] | epoch: | dude, if your brain was atrophied, that would be quite something |
| [19:46:00] | Christopher: | laga: #v4l says it's a chroma issue... which I digress is a VBR issue. |
| [19:46:00] | epoch: | seeing as it isn't a muscle, and all |
| [19:47:00] | Chutt: | which you digress? |
| [19:47:00] | Chutt: | heh |
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| [19:47:00] | Atamido: | Given that all TV broadcasts nowadays are going to have a Digital source, that is converted to an analog broadcast signal, I'm going to say that you could extrapolate a specific resolution to record. |
| [19:47:00] | Chutt: | atamido, you mean that every tv broadcast is filmed with digital video cameras? |
| [19:47:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my brain atrophies, but in a good way, i kill off all the dumb brain cells, leaving the smart ones |
| [19:47:00] | Chutt: | i really don't think so |
| [19:47:00] | Varanger: | How can I know if a TV tuners is compatible with MythTV ? |
| [19:48:00] | epoch: | JohnnyQuest: do you use beer to do that? |
| [19:48:00] | laga: | JohnnyQuest: i do that with alcohol |
| [19:48:00] | epoch: | ^5 laga |
| [19:48:00] | Atamido: | Chutt: No, that it goes to a digital conversion at some point. |
| [19:48:00] | laga: | darn, epoch beat me to it ;) |
| [19:48:00] | Christopher: | Varanger: if it's supported by v4l or ivtv. |
| [19:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i use a few drugs to do that |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | epoch: screw beer... vodka or scotch, maybe rum |
| [19:48:00] | Chutt: | right, but you can't know that resolution :p |
| [19:48:00] | epoch: | hahaha |
| [19:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | beer, is the slowest |
| [19:48:00] | epoch: | I'm going to be drinking a lot of beer on friday |
| [19:48:00] | Chutt: | and you _did_ say source :p |
| [19:48:00] | Atamido: | Even it if is Analog -> Digital -> Analog, the result is a specific resolution. |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | beer lets the dumb cells run away. |
| [19:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | the quickest seems to be vicodin or zynex |
| [19:48:00] | Christopher: | Atamido: I suppose that would always work for stretching video... make the render bigger until the definition falls below a threshold...... |
| [19:49:00] | Varanger: | Christopher: where can I look if the card works with ivtv or v4l ? |
| [19:49:00] | Christopher: | Atamido: but shrink it and you always lose data. |
| [19:49:00] | Chutt: | christopher just doesn't know shit about what he's babbling about |
| [19:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i got a new card chutt |
| [19:49:00] | Chutt: | but thinks he does, which is the worst type of person |
| [19:49:00] | Christopher: | Varanger: http://www.ivtv.tv/ |
| [19:50:00] | Christopher: | Chutt: the issue is you are failing to troubleshoot dick and you look like you can barely stay confident enough to get defensive. |
| [19:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its not his computer, he doesnt have to help you |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | Christopher: why the hell should Chutt troubleshoot for other people? |
| [19:50:00] | Chutt: | dude, you're babbling on about vbr |
| [19:50:00] | epoch: | hahaha |
| [19:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | christopher, just go to a place that will do it for you |
| [19:50:00] | Christopher: | Beirdo: precisely... because he's not here to bash people. |
| [19:50:00] | Chutt: | your issue is likely due to the decreased chroma resolution in an ntsc signal |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | jeez, we're lucky he's here at all |
| [19:51:00] | Chutt: | which #v4l fucking told you it was |
| [19:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | there are stores/studios that will do it for you christopher |
| [19:51:00] | Chutt: | but, noooo, it's gotta be related to vbr! |
| [19:51:00] | ** Atamido is leaving now to return his PVR-150 MCE ** | |
| [19:51:00] | Christopher: | Chutt: It is VBR. |
| [19:51:00] | Chutt: | regardless of the fact that vbr will _increase_ bitrate where it needs to |
| [19:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thats nice that its vbr christopher, if it is, fix it |
| [19:51:00] | Atamido: | Variable BitRate! |
| [19:51:00] | Christopher: | Chutt: if it were CBR, then when I played the video it would say I encoded it with a constant bitrate. |
| [19:51:00] | Chutt: | because it's variable |
| [19:51:00] | Chutt: | why's that matter? |
| [19:52:00] | Chutt: | if it were cbr, you'd either be wasting space, or getting artifacts on more complex images |
| [19:52:00] | ** Atamido always prefers VBR over CBR. ** | |
| [19:53:00] | Christopher: | Chutt: I fully intend to use a nice VBR... if and only if I can get the data out of the tuner without encrusting it with shit artifacts of any species. |
| [19:53:00] | ** JohnnyQuest perfers VBR over CBR when ripping music... ** | |
| [19:53:00] | Christopher: | Chutt: then send it to xvid :) |
| [19:53:00] | Atamido: | Now VFR, that's where things get screwy. |
| [19:53:00] | Chutt: | you're going to encode it lossy, twice? |
| [19:53:00] | Atamido: | Variable Frame Rate with Vorbis and such makes such a mess. :P |
| [19:53:00] | Chutt: | christopher, why do you think the 'shit artifacts' are from the encoding process? |
| [19:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Christopher: Are you sure you're not seeing a garbage in garbage out scenario? |
| [19:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i tried converting a pal frame rate to ntsc... |
| [19:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | that was a mess |
| [19:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | Have you plugged that same card (or better coax cable) into something else ? |
| [19:54:00] | rtsai: | xris: here? |
| [19:55:00] | Christopher: | Chutt: it's as if I took a perfect image into photoshop and using the magic wand with a threshold of 20... clicked now and again to remove definition from my picture. |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | Rule #1: Don't deliberately piss off the Chutt. CyberKnet's Corrolary: If you _do_ deliberately piss off the Chutt, be prepared to never get help for MythTV again. |
| [19:55:00] | Chutt: | christopher, why do you think a tv signal is _anything_ like a perfect image in photoshop? |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | more like an image taken through a lens smudged with fingerprints... at best |
| [19:56:00] | Chutt: | from your screenshots, it looks like you've got a fairly crappy signal coming in. |
| [19:56:00] | xris: | rtsai: sort of |
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| [19:56:00] | Chutt: | of course, it's hard to tell because you're scaling it wrong |
| [19:56:00] | laga: | Christopher: just get DVB |
| [19:57:00] | Chutt: | but hey, that's to be expected since it's quite obvious you don't know what you're talking about anyway =) |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | why do I feel the need for some popcorn? :) |
| [19:57:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: it's the only way to watch. |
| [19:57:00] | xris: | Christopher: analog tv signal is at *best* 512x384, with added static interference. |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh, right |
| [19:57:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: I'd like to see Chutt do some motivational speaking ;) |
| [19:57:00] | Chutt: | xris, no, it's gotta be the vbr encoding process! |
| [19:58:00] | CyberKnet: | *stifle* |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | you'll be living in a van down by the river! |
| [19:58:00] | Chutt: | xris, no amount of reason will change my mind! |
| [19:59:00] | rtsai: | xris: so is the nuvexport "master" repository at forevermore.net? I filed the ticket at mythtv.org because that's where I downloaded it from |
| [19:59:00] | Christopher: | Chutt: I'll rule out America exists after I fall off the edge of the earth. |
| [20:00:00] | xris: | Christopher: vbr vs cbr has *nothing* to do with artifacts you're seeing. |
| [20:00:00] | xris: | have you even tried different versions of ivtv? |
| [20:00:00] | Chutt: | xris, but it has to! |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:00:00] | Chutt: | it's the only possible explanation! |
| [20:00:00] | xris: | I use 0.3.2u because that's the most recent driver that works properly with my card. |
| [20:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | Christopher: Try plugging that same coax cable into a tv if possible |
| [20:01:00] | xris: | Chutt: you really are feeling confrontational today, aren't you? ;) |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | try removing all extra splitters, etc too |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Id 'bet that you have crappy signal (maybe too many splitters along the way?) |
| [20:01:00] | ** CyberKnet observes a 3 phase power line spliced into Christophers coax ** | |
| [20:01:00] | Christopher: | Chutt: did you cry alot so your mommy would breast feed you till your were 5...? Or did you just run fast so you didn't always get your ass kicked? |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | and terminating all unused jacks |
| [20:01:00] | Chutt: | xris, yeah, i'm bored |
| [20:01:00] | Chutt: | and this guy's hilarious |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [20:01:00] | CyberKnet: | Let's not ban this one |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | Christopher: you really need a clue. |
| [20:01:00] | xris: | Christopher: my advice... don't piss off the guy who writes the software. |
| [20:01:00] | Christopher: | ;) |
| [20:01:00] | CyberKnet: | it really did get boring after we banned the last one. |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [20:01:00] | ** Beirdo hands Chutt the trout... he needs a slap or two, I think ** | |
| [20:02:00] | ** xris wonders why Chutt lost his +v ** | |
| [20:02:00] | Christopher: | cheer. this is a nice place to be. :) |
| [20:02:00] | Chutt: | i mean, seriously, if you don't want to listen to people, why bother asking questions on irc? |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | likely not registered right now |
| [20:02:00] | Chutt: | xris, oh, i didn't identify myself this time |
| [20:02:00] | xris: | ahh |
| [20:03:00] | ** CyberKnet gives Christopher a bronx cheer. ** | |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:03:00] | Christopher: | CyberKnet: ty |
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| [20:04:00] | CyberKnet: | Christopher: thing is see, there are a lot of people in here that know a lot about this stuff. Chutt here wrote MythTV and knows more about v4l than I likely ever could think about trying to know. So you telling him he's wrong... well that's just plain stupid. |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | Hmmm. BIND might work better if I bloody well installed it first! |
| [20:04:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: lmao |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | jeez, that was dumb |
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| [20:04:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo here is not one of the people that knows a lot. *grin*. He's a gentoo ricer. |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | Uhhh, whatever. |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | have another sheep, that one's worn out |
| [20:05:00] | CyberKnet: | lmao |
| [20:05:00] | CyberKnet: | she's not that ba-a-a-ad |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | more of an ubuntu user, with dabblings in a single gentoo box |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | and trying to slowly rid myself of RH* |
| [20:05:00] | CyberKnet: | rice, rice baby! |
| [20:06:00] | Chutt: | http://www.trolltech.com/developer/tasktracker.html |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | rice is tasty, especially jasmine rice :) |
| [20:06:00] | Chutt: | sweet, they opened up their bug list |
| [20:06:00] | Christopher: | I agree... it's hard to be right all the time. |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | nice. |
| [20:06:00] | CyberKnet: | nice. |
| [20:06:00] | Christopher: | Chutt: thanks for your contribution to the community. really. |
| [20:07:00] | laga: | darn, you made my sarcasm detector explode |
| [20:07:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [20:07:00] | ** Beirdo turned on the TV in the first time in about a week and a half ** | |
| [20:07:00] | xris: | woah... |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | for rather |
| [20:07:00] | xris: | mr. records-everything-at-all-times.... |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, it's odd |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | it's still humming along |
| [20:08:00] | xris: | losing weight, falling in love *and* not watching tv... |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | but I've been too busy with more interesting things than TV |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | http://pics.beirdo.ca/Flowers/scan0145 |
| [20:08:00] | ** laga shakes his head ** | |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | I really like that shot |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | good thing I had the sun hood on :) |
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| [20:09:00] | beavis: | schwul |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | laga: don't make me come out there and slap you with a trout |
| [20:10:00] | laga: | beavis: shut it, buttmunch |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | laga: /nick butthead |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:10:00] | laga: | Beirdo: you shut it, too ;) |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:10:00] | beavis: | laga: i thought it's what you think about this pix ;) |
| [20:11:00] | laga: | beavis: i like cute, fluffy things. |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | that was taken just over a month ago, finally scanned it last night |
| [20:11:00] | beavis: | heh, sure O:-) |
| [20:11:00] | ** laga goes away to sacrify some teddy bears ** | |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | http://pics.beirdo.ca/Flowers/scan0099 |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | that one's nice too |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | my mom really liked it, and swiped the print. hehe |
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| [20:13:00] | ** Beirdo hands laga a warm apple pie... take it easy on the teddy bear! ** | |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | jeez, I think I need coffee. |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | falling asleep at 2:15 |
| [20:15:00] | ** xris points to the espresso machine. ** | |
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| [20:16:00] | beavis: | how can i see modified files with svn? |
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| [20:16:00] | beavis: | it just shows me Revision 6738. |
| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | svn status, no? |
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| [20:17:00] | rtsai: | svn status -u |
| [20:17:00] | grahamf: | i'm going to buy a new tuner card tonight. i'm looking to spend under $100. i was thinking the hauppage pvr-150 as it was suggested to me by another mythtv user. but on the knoppmyth forums, it seems it doesnt work so well? |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | I think the answer is "man svn" |
| [20:17:00] | beavis: | ok, that's not the way it works for cvs |
| [20:17:00] | beavis: | can i svn up to a clean copy? |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | beavis: I'd suggest RTFM :) |
| [20:18:00] | beavis: | come on |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | the link to the SVN book is on the trac page |
| [20:18:00] | beavis: | heh |
| [20:18:00] | grahamf: | anyone have any suggestions? or will the 150 be fine? |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | grahamf: it works for some, doesn't for others, depends on the model and the skill of the user, I think |
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| [20:20:00] | grahamf: | can you suggest something that will work more out of the box? time is my only worry with it. |
| [20:20:00] | grahamf: | onboard encoding doesn't matter, but it is a plus. |
| [20:20:00] | grahamf: | it will be run on a p4 11.7 with 512ddr |
| [20:20:00] | grahamf: | *1.7 |
| [20:21:00] | GotD0t: | i would hope it would run on an 11.7ghz :-P |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | the PVR150 is likely good, I hear more positive than negative reports |
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| [20:22:00] | grahamf: | maybe i'll just go with that. |
| [20:22:00] | grahamf: | i'm going to actually buy it locally and the only others that i find will work with myth are leadtek and i'm a little iffy with them. |
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| [20:26:00] | grahamf: | what about the wintv-go? |
| [20:26:00] | JohnnyQuest: | on board encoding does matter.. |
| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | PVR150's better once you have it working |
| [20:26:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have a 1.4 tbird |
| [20:26:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have trouble with a pvr-150 |
| [20:26:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: finally got the PRI up and running. |
| [20:26:00] | grahamf: | what kind of trouble? |
| [20:26:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its slow.. |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | mishehu: nice |
| [20:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have trouble with live tv |
| [20:27:00] | grahamf: | i heard the 150 does onboard mpeg3? |
| [20:27:00] | grahamf: | *2 |
| [20:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [20:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it does |
| [20:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and it has nice picture/audio |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | wonder what ever happened to MPEG3? |
| [20:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i just got a fx5200, ill get it tomrrow, i hope it works well... |
| [20:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i thought mpeg3 was mp3? |
| [20:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im probably wrong.. |
| [20:27:00] | grahamf: | i wont be using it for live tv anyway |
| [20:28:00] | MonMotha: | mp3 is MPEG1 Audio Layer 3 |
| [20:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [20:28:00] | kormoc2: | there was a video codec part to mpeg3 too, iirc? |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | mp3 is MPEG1 or MPEG2 layer 3 |
| [20:28:00] | MonMotha: | true, it can refer to MPEG2 as wel |
| [20:28:00] | grahamf: | im only going to use this as a recorder/playback |
| [20:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh my god...a user actually took my instructions and used them to solve their own problem..... *sheds a tear of happiness* |
| [20:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [20:28:00] | MonMotha: | though most "mp3s" you find are MPEG1 |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | but then they went from MPEG2 to MPEG4 |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | wonder where MPEG3 disappeared to? |
| [20:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | who me? by gettign a new graphics card/ |
| [20:28:00] | MonMotha: | now I just need to hack together tveeprom and tuner from ivtv with the 2.6.12 stuff |
| [20:29:00] | MonMotha: | Beirdo: as far as I can tell, it never existed, at least not in any real form |
| [20:29:00] | MonMotha: | kinda like IPv5 |
| [20:29:00] | MonMotha: | (which existed as some whacko project that had reliable delivery as part of the spec and never really took off) |
| [20:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | graham, go look at reviews of tv tuner cards |
| [20:30:00] | grahamf: | i have been. only from what i've found on the knoppmyth forums though. i havent had time. any links would be appreciated though |
| [20:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | the quality of the software encoders arnt as good genearlly.. |
| [20:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i wasnt talking about for support |
| [20:31:00] | grahamf: | i would prefer onboard encoder > software, yes. |
| [20:31:00] | grahamf: | which is why im looking at the 150 |
| [20:31:00] | xris: | MonMotha: most? try all. |
| [20:31:00] | JohnnyQuest: | just buy it |
| [20:31:00] | xris: | mp3 is "mpeg1, layer 3 audio" |
| [20:31:00] | ** kormoc2 ponders what mpeg1, layer 2 is. ** | |
| [20:32:00] | MonMotha: | xris: I've seen some things that were MPEG2 audio, though one could argue they're misnamed |
| [20:32:00] | Beirdo: | xris: not all of them, some bitrates are MPEG2 layer 3 |
| [20:32:00] | Chutt: | mpeg2 added lower bitrates/sampling rates to mp3 |
| [20:32:00] | xris: | that'd be misnamed |
| [20:32:00] | MonMotha: | xmms supports it though with the mp3 decoder |
| [20:32:00] | Chutt: | mpeg "2.5" added even lower sampling rates |
| [20:32:00] | MonMotha: | kormoc: it's audio layer 2, it exists (VCDs use it) |
| [20:32:00] | grahamf: | i think i will |
| [20:32:00] | ** xris will stick with .ogg. :) ** | |
| [20:32:00] | Beirdo: | and MPEG1 layer 2 is used in DVDs and VCD, no? |
| [20:32:00] | Chutt: | kormoc, 'mpegaudio' |
| [20:32:00] | MonMotha: | much higher bitrate for the same quality, but lower processing requirements |
| [20:32:00] | kormoc2: | yay, now I know, and knowledge is power! |
| [20:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have one graham, its wonderful |
| [20:33:00] | xris: | kormoc2: that's "and knowing is half the battle" |
| [20:33:00] | grahamf: | any problems setting it up as im seeing in the forums? |
| [20:33:00] | xris: | JohnnyQuest: crackers or port? |
| [20:33:00] | JohnnyQuest: | cookies? |
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| [20:33:00] | kormoc2: | xris, ooh, righto |
| [20:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i didnt have too many problems setting it up |
| [20:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well, i did, but i had never used linux |
| [20:34:00] | grahamf: | okay thanks. i think im going with that card |
| [20:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, after learning a little bit, i got it |
| [20:34:00] | Beirdo: | mmmmm. port |
| [20:34:00] | grahamf: | okay, well i use nothing but linux, so it should be fine |
| [20:35:00] | xris: | JohnnyQuest: I hadn't noticed grahamf here.. thought you were talking about having one graham.. |
| [20:35:00] | laga: | OT: in europe, we have get little SIM cards from our phone providers and put them in our cell phones to make them work. what do thy use in the US? |
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| [20:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol xris |
| [20:35:00] | laga: | s/have// |
| [20:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have sim cards in my phones |
| [20:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im in the use |
| [20:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | us* |
| [20:36:00] | grahamf: | some providers use sim cards. some dont. |
| [20:36:00] | ** xris prefers graham port over graham crackers... although the crackers are good with marshmallow fluff on them (esp. if you hit them briefly with a torch) ** | |
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| [20:39:00] | ** JohnnyQuest doesnt know what graham's port is ** | |
| [20:39:00] | JohnnyQuest: | or graham port.. |
| [20:39:00] | xris: | JohnnyQuest: you don't? |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | you're missing out |
| [20:39:00] | JohnnyQuest: | no |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:39:00] | xris: | graham's port, actually... one of the best port makers. |
| [20:39:00] | ** Beirdo blames xris ** | |
| [20:39:00] | xris: | ;) |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | good stuff |
| [20:39:00] | Chacabaou: | Is it possible to compile and use MythTV (as slave backend) on a machine which doesn't have any monitor connected or even X-server installed? |
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| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | Taylor Fladgate is still my preferred |
| [20:40:00] | xris: | my fav is still the yalumba antique tawny. |
| [20:40:00] | xris: | but I'm still trying out new brands. |
| [20:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i prefer haze... |
| [20:40:00] | xris: | forget what I have in my cupboard now. |
| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | Taylor Fladgate 20yr Tawny. YUM! |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | I have 10yr in the bar cupboard right now |
| [20:41:00] | xris: | that'd be good. dunno if I've splurged on a 20yr yet. |
| [20:41:00] | xris: | haze? |
| [20:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | it's about $90/bottle for the 20yr, I think |
| [20:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its not a wine |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | I have scotches that are more expensive than that |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | that Oban 14yr... mmmm |
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| [20:42:00] | Beirdo: | or the Bacardi 151. |
| [20:42:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [20:42:00] | xris: | JohnnyQuest: neither is port. |
| [20:42:00] | Beirdo: | now THAT's a drink |
| [20:42:00] | Beirdo: | frigging fire-water |
| [20:42:00] | xris: | I'll stick with the normal-proof rums, thanks. |
| [20:42:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:42:00] | kormoc2: | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem . . . 903&rd=1 |
| [20:42:00] | Beirdo: | an 80 proof rum tastes SO watered down after some 151 |
| [20:43:00] | xris: | too many friends coming over to drink mojitos, I need to get another bottle of rum soon. |
| [20:43:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [20:43:00] | xris: | and maybe gin. had a cucumber martini the other day that was pretty good. |
| [20:43:00] | kormoc2: | Mmm... Mojitos... |
| [20:43:00] | Beirdo: | my 1.5L of Havana Club white is almost gone |
| [20:43:00] | Beirdo: | and I'm told that Bacardi is "crappy rum" |
| [20:43:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:44:00] | Beirdo: | for Puerto Rico standards |
| [20:44:00] | CyberKnet: | It's not awful. |
| [20:44:00] | Beirdo: | apparently there is WAY better |
| [20:44:00] | CyberKnet: | but by puerta rico standards, I can see why they would say it is crappy =) |
| [20:44:00] | KSG-MoD: | if i want to start watching tv i get following error message in the mythbackend.log: "DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup." << what is that? |
| [20:44:00] | Beirdo: | I like Havana Club better by far |
| [20:44:00] | Beirdo: | but you poor US residents can't have any! |
| [20:44:00] | CyberKnet: | oh? |
| [20:44:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [20:44:00] | xris: | odd, for some reason I thought that bacardi was *from* pr. |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | Havana Club... from Havana, Cuba |
| [20:45:00] | CyberKnet: | oh, of course. |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | Bacardi IS from PR |
| [20:45:00] | ** GreyFoxx is pondering a cuba trip this summer ** | |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | but there's way better rums down there that don't make it up here, apparently |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | I'm going to the Bacardi distillery whenever it is I get down there :) |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | gotta be done |
| [20:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh I'm thinking of taking a week off in August and heading down to chill on the beach |
| [20:46:00] | CyberKnet: | mail me some good bacardi back =) |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | apparently THEY give out free samples ;) |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | and I like rum |
| [20:46:00] | CyberKnet: | wooo. |
| [20:46:00] | CyberKnet: | I'll take free samples. |
| [20:46:00] | ** Beirdo has been known to drink a pint of rum at one sitting... straight ** | |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | and she didn't believe me... so I turned on the webcam |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:47:00] | KSG-MoD: | anyone not talking bout alk in here? =) |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | see... full pint glass of rum... |
| [20:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I brought back a bunch of rum from my last Carribean trip, but I' never actually tasted any :) |
| [20:47:00] | kormoc2: | Mmm... Vodka... |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | see... empty pint glass of rum... |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | mmmm, vodka |
| [20:47:00] | ** xris must give credit to bacardi for discovering carbon filtration of rum.... ** | |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | aye |
| [20:48:00] | xris: | but I agree, the stuff I got in costa rica was/is better than the best bacardi you can get in the stores here. |
| [20:48:00] | ** kormoc2 is out of vodka at the moment. ** | |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | the 1.5L of Skyy in the freezer's half gone |
| [20:48:00] | xris: | but bacardi is the best you can get in the stores here. |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | Havana Club and Appleton are the two best here |
| [20:48:00] | xris: | no more of that Pusser's crap for me. |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | Appleton's from Jamaica |
| [20:48:00] | xris: | will keep an eye out for appleton. |
| [20:48:00] | xris: | |
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| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | I think so |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | likely a different name as Jamaica's not Spanish |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | but I think they have premium aged stuff |
| [20:49:00] | kormoc2: | Beirdo, given being up all night after a unfortinuate format of the wrong partition and the recovery there of, I could have used a few drinks last night :P |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | been a while since I shopped for booze |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | I have so much booze it's uncanny |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:50:00] | kormoc2: | may bar topped out at 56 bottles iirc. |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | http://pics.beirdo.ca/RandomPics/DSCN0052 |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | and the two pics after |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | and that doesn't count the 5 or 6 cases of wine |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | or the big bottle of vodka in the freezer below |
| [20:50:00] | xris: | bah. talk to me when it reaches 40 gallons. |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | I have about that in wine |
| [20:50:00] | laga: | yummy, southern comfort |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, about 30 gal |
| [20:51:00] | kormoc2: | bushmills, very nice |
| [20:51:00] | xris: | I'm lower than that now. |
| [20:51:00] | KSG-MoD: | if i want to start watching tv i get following error message in the mythbackend.log: "DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup." << what is that? |
| [20:51:00] | xris: | man, it's almost july and I still haven't started any new batches of mead. |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | the Te Bhaeg is pretty good |
| [20:51:00] | xris: | need to make a plan. |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | plan: start batch of mead |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | see... Graham's |
| [20:51:00] | xris: | batches. |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | 2 bottles of it... |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | one Six Grapes, one 1998 vintage |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, the big bottle of rum is a 1.14L |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | the Jim Beam's been used to make sauces :) |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | nothing like a little bourbon sauce |
| [20:54:00] | ** laga goes and gets himself a beer. ** | |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | beer.. BAH! |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | you'll be in the bathroom all night unloading |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | http://pics.beirdo.ca/RandomPics/DSCN0020 |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | that's my PVR. |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | just to be slightly on topic |
| [20:57:00] | laga: | heh. i've just finished a bottle of water – the beer won'T do much addiitonal damage |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [20:58:00] | laga: | my pvr doesn't like beer. (to combine my favourite topic and the one of the channel) |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | you let it try some? |
| [20:59:00] | laga: | no, i based this assumption on the theory that AC/DC doesn't mix well with water |
| [20:59:00] | laga: | (they prefer whisky) |
| [20:59:00] | laga: | darn. that was a very, very bad joke |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | very bad |
| [21:00:00] | Beirdo: | Michael Anthony likes JD... |
| [21:00:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:00:00] | Beirdo: | as does Slash |
| [21:01:00] | KSG-MoD: | how do i get the dvb_pids table filled? |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | dunno, don't use DVB |
| [21:01:00] | hadees: | GeckoFiend, do you know a guy with the nick Safecracker |
| [21:02:00] | hadees: | GeckoFiend, http://www.scopetech.net/forums/index.php?sho . . . &p=44698 |
| [21:03:00] | ** Beirdo curses the Comedy Network for having non-unique show descriptions for The Daily Show ** | |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | A humourous slant on top news stories. |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | every damn time |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | assmasters |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | just like the Simpsons |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | Homer and Marge Simpson raise Bart, Lisa and baby Maggie. |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | no shit |
| [21:04:00] | xris: | Beirdo: yeah. it's zap2it, not the network, though. |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | no, it's the network not telling zap2it which episodes they are airing |
| [21:05:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: is it comedy central or zap2it ? |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | that's The Comedy Network |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | here |
| [21:05:00] | mishehu: | probably same owners |
| [21:05:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, how about something that cross checks against tv.com |
| [21:05:00] | mishehu: | and same incompetence. |
| [21:05:00] | hadees: | it would work for new episodes atleast |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | if the networks don't tell zap2it, they can't tell us |
| [21:05:00] | xris: | maybe. I know that zap2it has the wrong info for some shows, too.. like wrong episode names for good eats, etc. |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | that's likely also the network, xris |
| [21:06:00] | xris: | (not a different episode name, but a unique incorrect name) |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | like being off by one week |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | how I hate that |
| [21:06:00] | xris: | no |
| [21:06:00] | xris: | I mean the wrong title. |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | Ooooh |
| [21:06:00] | xris: | "episode 1" always shows up as "episode a" |
| [21:06:00] | hadees: | all these reasons are why tivo uses multiple sources |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | you find us another officially free-to-use source |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:07:00] | xris: | like "Good Eats – Eggplants" instead of "Good Eats – Deep Purple".... |
| [21:07:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, there isn't one |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | hadees: precisely :) |
| [21:07:00] | xris: | same show, same description, just the wrong show name. |
| [21:07:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, but someone could do a xmltv for tvguide.com |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | xris: Ah yes |
| [21:07:00] | kormoc2: | as well as tv.yahoo.com |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | tvguide.com is the same data as zap2it |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | they are both Tribune |
| [21:08:00] | kormoc2: | as well as the other dozen or so zap2it clon... yeah Beirdo... |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | if they use separate data, they are idiots |
| [21:08:00] | xris: | it's all Tribune. didn't know there was another provider. |
| [21:08:00] | hadees: | eh i know there are other ones besides Tribune |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | there are others |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | but Tribune definitely has the monopoly |
| [21:08:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, plush tribune could be giving us bad data on purpose |
| [21:08:00] | hadees: | well not updating it |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | dunno |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | they could be, but I doubt it |
| [21:09:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, if you look at tribune services they have a layer system |
| [21:09:00] | hadees: | lxsuite or whatever |
| [21:09:00] | hadees: | better get good data |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | whatever, like I care, they don't have any purpose for me |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | no Canada data, no money from me |
| [21:10:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, my service woudl have rocked, but i couldn't get any backing |
| [21:10:00] | hadees: | no one thought it would make money |
| [21:10:00] | hadees: | lxsuite still isn't making money |
| [21:11:00] | hadees: | what you need is like rottentomatos.com tribune and tv.com |
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| [21:11:00] | Beirdo: | and they won't make any off me until they expand their service |
| [21:11:00] | hadees: | thats a service |
| [21:11:00] | hadees: | and a weather service |
| [21:13:00] | hadees: | i am really intrested in seeing if they turn a profit because i would think you still need more then just data |
| [21:13:00] | laga: | hadees: how can you know that they still dont make any money? |
| [21:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | man, I need to either setup distcc/ccache or get a faster dev box |
| [21:14:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: try distcc and ccache first. |
| [21:14:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: be careful about distcc, though. |
| [21:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Why ? |
| [21:15:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: they say that things can go wrong if you're using different versions of gcc on your boxen |
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| [21:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahh |
| [21:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | makes sense |
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| [21:16:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: just make sure to read their docs – they cover such things :) |
| [21:16:00] | laga: | and mythtv supports ccache and distcc out of the box, it rocks. |
| [21:16:00] | hadees: | laga, the website said pilot program where the money goes back into mythtv |
| [21:17:00] | laga: | hadees: all of the money? |
| [21:17:00] | hadees: | i think so |
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| [21:31:00] | JohnnyQuest: | someone was in here the other day doing a ubuntu tutorial for mythtv |
| [21:31:00] | JohnnyQuest: | does anyone know who that was writing it |
| [21:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | nm, i found it in the log for the channel |
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| [21:38:00] | temmihoo: | lo, houston, we have a problem: No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup. (from mythbackend log file) googling doesn't seem to find a solution for this. otherwise everything seems to be set nicely |
| [21:39:00] | temmihoo: | so where do i get the PIDS information and where should i configure it? knoppmyth r16 and technotrend dvb-c saa7146 |
| [21:39:00] | JohnnyQuest: | http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php . . . #post5804821 |
| [21:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | that site says something about it |
| [21:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i didnt read it all, its not my problem.. |
| [21:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, it might help.. |
| [21:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | also, it said somethign about it being fixed in the cvs version of mythtv |
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| [21:41:00] | Scorpi: | hi. what's wrong if mythweb doesn't jump to the new date/time which I chose? |
| [21:41:00] | xris: | http://www.ascendtech.us/itemdesc.asp?ic=VCTVWINTVPVR250 |
| [21:43:00] | Scorpi: | the behaviour is the same with different browsers |
| [21:43:00] | temmihoo: | mmkay thx JohnnyQuest i'll go see if it helps.. in case i need to compile it by hand, is mythtv a modern autoconfigured software or do i need to handset half the compilation options or use imake or such? |
| [21:44:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [21:45:00] | Chutt: | theoretically, the new box should be able to decode 4 1080i streams in real time... |
| [21:46:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys, should i use vbullitin or phpbb for my forum on my website? |
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| [21:50:00] | Scorpi: | is there any configuration I should look at? |
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| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | This camera kicks ass |
| [21:58:00] | Beirdo: | too bad I don't have my lenses with me |
| [21:58:00] | Scorpi: | what cam? |
| [21:59:00] | Beirdo: | Nikon D70 |
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| [22:01:00] | ** xris hates all web browsers. ** | |
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| [22:02:00] | rjune: | xris: why for? |
| [22:02:00] | Beirdo: | xris is in hating mode... coool |
| [22:02:00] | Beirdo: | where are the newbies? :) |
| [22:03:00] | JohnnyQuest: | right here! |
| [22:03:00] | xris: | rjune: because they all suck |
| [22:03:00] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | I just realized my phone was off the hook most of the day |
| [22:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [22:04:00] | xris: | firefox is friggin' slow in linux. |
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| [22:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ie is even slower on windows |
| [22:04:00] | xris: | and won't do what I want it to. |
| [22:04:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v Geckofiend | |
| [22:04:00] | xris: | firefox is plenty fast in windows. |
| [22:04:00] | xris: | it's just slow in linux and macos. |
| [22:04:00] | xris: | I like galeon, but it has plenty of bugs of its own. |
| [22:04:00] | purplefrog: | I have a tricky problem. |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | well stop running on a P166 :) |
| [22:05:00] | ** Beirdo hides ** | |
| [22:05:00] | xris: | um, 3.4G p4-m |
| [22:05:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:05:00] | purplefrog: | My kludged CNN recordings aren't listed as "upcoming" anymore. |
| [22:05:00] | Beirdo: | same difference |
| [22:05:00] | Beirdo: | OK, let me get this straight, purplefrog... |
| [22:05:00] | Beirdo: | you kludged something together and are asking *us* to support it? |
| [22:05:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:05:00] | xris: | crap, I wish yum would respond to control-c |
| [22:06:00] | purplefrog: | Nope, I'm hoping you can help me figure out how to fix it. |
| [22:06:00] | darkfire: | taking a poll, recommendations for a cheap case mobo and processor solution. i have a HD and a pvr-350, and I want a moderately powerful chip (for MAME and emulators, mostly) and a case that would look good next to my dvd player and reciever. |
| [22:06:00] | rjune: | xris: ctrl-z work? |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | yes |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | which was good enough |
| [22:06:00] | Beirdo: | ctrl-z, kill %1 |
| [22:06:00] | purplefrog: | It worked this morning, but the mythweb schedule and built-in web report says it won't record (unless you use a specific mythweb report). |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | still. you hit control-c and it just looks for another mirror for that file. |
| [22:06:00] | Beirdo: | or whatever job number it gets |
| [22:06:00] | Beirdo: | that's lovely |
| [22:06:00] | rjune: | xris: hit ctrl-c a LOT |
| [22:06:00] | rjune: | it'll close out eventually |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | not in my experience. |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | use apt :) |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | apt doesn't work in fc4 |
| [22:07:00] | rjune: | you could always set it up to use just one mirror |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | I do like the new yum, though. it prevents me from using atrpms (well, atrpms is broken) |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | simple solution there, xris :) |
| [22:07:00] | purplefrog: | My kludge consist of altering the records in the PROGRAM table. I delete the old record and put several new ones in its place. Will that obviously cause any problems when run as part of teh mythfilldatabase? |
| [22:08:00] | xris: | Beirdo: I *like* rpm. don't want to have to learn deb. |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:08:00] | xris: | spec is a much nicer format than debian's stuff. |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | xris: I'm gonna have to dub you an old dog :) |
| [22:08:00] | xris: | the new yum is actually pretty nice. |
| [22:09:00] | ** Beirdo tries to teach xris a new trick. no such luck. ** | |
| [22:09:00] | rjune: | yeah, sqllite really sped things up |
| [22:10:00] | SteveHolt: | xris: what's nice about it |
| [22:10:00] | SteveHolt: | ? |
| [22:10:00] | xris: | layout is nice. |
| [22:11:00] | rjune: | it can pull packages from multiple mirros |
| [22:11:00] | SteveHolt: | can you cache the package listings? |
| [22:11:00] | rjune: | it uses sqlite for the db backend, which has greatly sped things up |
| [22:11:00] | xris: | old yum could do that, too |
| [22:11:00] | xris: | SteveHolt: yum -C |
| [22:11:00] | SteveHolt: | ahh, I always hated that |
| [22:11:00] | SteveHolt: | takes forever to download them |
| [22:12:00] | darkfire: | so, no recommendations? |
| [22:12:00] | SteveHolt: | that's what I like about apt |
| [22:12:00] | CyberKnet: | Hmm... apt always seemed to find out what was available where much faster than yum did... the way yum went through package by package. |
| [22:12:00] | xris: | apt *is* faster. it's C vs python |
| [22:12:00] | CyberKnet: | I never bothered to see if there was a way to circumvent that behavior though... I just used apt. |
| [22:12:00] | xris: | though yum changed the "package by package" thing a couple versions back. |
| [22:12:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [22:12:00] | rjune: | fc3 |
| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | damn |
| [22:13:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: I guess FC2 didn't get backported. |
| [22:13:00] | xris: | I just can't get apt to work in fc4 |
| [22:13:00] | CyberKnet: | or rather, didn't get a backport |
| [22:14:00] | jonK: | i still use dselect |
| [22:16:00] | xris: | holy crap, apt is working now. |
| [22:16:00] | xris: | found some new related package that made it work. |
| [22:21:00] | purplefrog: | Is MythTV smart enough to predict when it will run out of disk space? |
| [22:21:00] | xris: | more or less |
| [22:21:00] | CyberKnet: | purplefrog: less or more |
| [22:22:00] | purplefrog: | I'm still trying to figure out why these recordings are not showing up on the reports. |
| [22:22:00] | CyberKnet: | "reports"? |
| [22:22:00] | purplefrog: | I scheduled it, it's not listed. |
| [22:23:00] | purplefrog: | I'm looking at the mythweb "scheduled recordings" |
| [22:23:00] | purplefrog: | I even have the mythweb front end "upcoming recordings". |
| [22:23:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: You look like you wanted to handle this one =) |
| [22:23:00] | purplefrog: | I browsed to it in the channel listing and scheduled a recording. No response. |
| [22:24:00] | xris: | odd |
| [22:24:00] | xris: | that shouldn't matter |
| [22:25:00] | xris: | purplefrog: so in "recording schedules" (mythweb) you see your show listed? but it doesn't show up in "scheduled recordings"? |
| [22:25:00] | CyberKnet: | is it listed in Recording Schedules? |
| [22:25:00] | CyberKnet: | heh. |
| [22:25:00] | purplefrog: | twice now. |
| [22:26:00] | CyberKnet: | presumably then it just isn't matching. |
| [22:26:00] | purplefrog: | I managed to schedule it for tomorrow morning. it was showing up for Friday and later. Very weird. |
| [22:26:00] | xris: | purplefrog: you sure you're choosing the right KIND of schedule? |
| [22:26:00] | purplefrog: | Well, there's "any time, any channel", can't get simpler than that. |
| [22:27:00] | xris: | and it doesn't show up in scheduled until friday? |
| [22:27:00] | CyberKnet: | and you didn't make it not record duplicates, or not record repeats or some such? |
| [22:28:00] | purplefrog: | Before I added the second one it planned to skip all 4 of Thursday's recordings and then all of Friday's and all of Saturday's, and I didn't scroll down. |
| [22:28:00] | purplefrog: | I'm looking at the 'record' table to see if there's some excuse. |
| [22:28:00] | purplefrog: | I had "duplicate detection" set to "none". |
| [22:29:00] | CyberKnet: | and it didn't detect them at all? |
| [22:29:00] | purplefrog: | Well, the episodes really aren't distinct. |
| [22:29:00] | purplefrog: | It's CNNHN. |
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| [22:30:00] | purplefrog: | So far, the only difference I can see between the two rows in the "record" table is that one assigns it a recording group of 'default' and the other is blank. |
| [22:30:00] | xris: | purplefrog: when you mouse over things in mythweb, it'll tell you why they're not being recorded. |
| [22:30:00] | xris: | in the scheduled recordings page, that is. |
| [22:30:00] | purplefrog: | Yeah, except for the 80,000,000 things that aren't listed . |
| [22:31:00] | xris: | that's the backend not sending that info, then. have you tried resetting mythbackend? |
| [22:31:00] | purplefrog: | It's a little late for that. I have "fixed" it by duplicating one of the recording entries. |
| [22:32:00] | purplefrog: | I'll still do some experiments. |
| [22:32:00] | CyberKnet: | purplefrog: sure you have. Didn't you just say that it still isn't picking anything up between now and friday? |
| [22:33:00] | xris: | I still suggest resetting mythbackend. just to rule that out as an issue. |
| [22:33:00] | purplefrog: | "I managed to schedule it for tomorrow morning. it was showing up for Friday and later. Very weird." |
| [22:33:00] | CyberKnet: | fair enough. |
| [22:34:00] | purplefrog: | i have deleted the new row from the "record" table (via mythweb) and now it's back to the "won't record Thursday 30th, or Tuesday 12" state. |
| [22:34:00] | purplefrog: | I'll restart mythbackend to see if that has any effect. |
| [22:34:00] | mchou: | ok, stupid question. Are there any issues monting a mATX mobo in a ATX case? |
| [22:34:00] | mchou: | mounting* |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | shouldn't be... just a matter of size in the case of those two, no? |
| [22:34:00] | MonMotha: | mchou: shouldn't be, no |
| [22:35:00] | mchou: | MonMotha: ok, thx. |
| [22:35:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I can't imagine so, unless the screws physically dont line up, or the ventilation for some reason is not compatible. |
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| [22:35:00] | MonMotha: | I think some of the holes are in a different place, but most semi-modern full ATX cases are drilled for both |
| [22:35:00] | purplefrog: | Ahah, restarting mythbackend shocked it back to sanity. |
| [22:35:00] | mchou: | yeah, screw holes were my concern. |
| [22:35:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: my full size case had holes for all sizes, YMMV |
| [22:36:00] | purplefrog: | I wonder how the back end got confused in the first place. |
| [22:36:00] | CyberKnet: | I just dont remember if it was the sonata or the cheapie that was drilled for all sizes, sorry =) |
| [22:36:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: haha! |
| [22:37:00] | CyberKnet: | I wish I could remember conclusively =) |
| [22:37:00] | mchou: | I can drill and tap my own holes :) |
| [22:37:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: that's a good plan =) |
| [22:37:00] | purplefrog: | I'm not sure if "good" is the word I'd use for that plan. |
| [22:38:00] | mchou: | it's an ok plan. |
| [22:38:00] | purplefrog: | But I'm a sissy when it comes to drilling holes. |
| [22:38:00] | CyberKnet: | Hmmm... there's a sonata II now. |
| [22:38:00] | purplefrog: | It's a wonder I ever got my projector bolted to the ceiling. |
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| [22:42:00] | MonMotha: | my case has holes for a friggin AT motherboard |
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| [22:43:00] | mchou: | MonMotha: haha!! |
| [22:43:00] | mchou: | Does it also have the AT keyboard hole? |
| [22:43:00] | mchou: | if not, it's useless :) |
| [22:44:00] | MonMotha: | mchou: you can buy ATX plates that have the AT keyboard hole |
| [22:44:00] | CyberKnet: | Ah... sonata II is "just" a sonata with a 450W instead of a 380W power supply. |
| [22:46:00] | bjohnson: | watched "Beneath the 12 Mile Reef" last night. It was kinda neat to see Robert Wagner when he was a teenager |
| [22:47:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: You know, if you were looking for a new sonata, newegg has the mright now for 99 with a 30 m/i/r. I dont do rebates, but I thought that you did. |
| [22:48:00] | MonMotha: | mchou: or you can just run it without a plate, of course |
| [22:48:00] | mchou: | nah, not interested in getting a new case. I have too many cases. |
| [22:49:00] | mchou: | I've picked up many dell "Picasso" cases. Those are fantastic at dampening noise. |
| [22:49:00] | mchou: | better than sonata. And cheaper to boot. |
| [22:50:00] | Chutt: | my p180 rocks |
| [22:50:00] | mchou: | Chutt: set yours up already? |
| [22:50:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
| [22:50:00] | Chutt: | it's quieter than most of my other machines |
| [22:51:00] | mchou: | nice :) |
| [22:51:00] | mchou: | any issues with power supply cord? |
| [22:51:00] | rtsai: | Geckofiend: you're talking about the xscreensaver "Power Management" settings, right? *sigh* I'll play with it again, I suppose. |
| [22:51:00] | jonK: | i;'adsfasdfdfsi'm not a big fan of dell, but the dell optiplex I have in my office is nice, small, and incredibly quiet |
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| [22:52:00] | mchou: | jonK: plastic, it's the wave of the future :) |
| [22:53:00] | mchou: | all that aluminum and steel just adds up to a big racket :) |
| [22:53:00] | CyberKnet: | the dimension on the desk next to me was quiet when I got it, but the fans have gotten progressively worse. |
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| [22:54:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: fans are replaceable. |
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| [23:00:00] | Beirdo: | I'll stick with my Sonatas thanks |
| [23:00:00] | Beirdo: | all of my computers together are quieter than the average normal computer |
| [23:00:00] | mchou: | That's not saying much. |
| [23:02:00] | CyberKnet: | Chutt: where did you get your p180 from? |
| [23:03:00] | CyberKnet: | aah. 140 at zzf |
| [23:03:00] | mchou: | I thought Chutt spent less than that. |
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| [23:03:00] | CyberKnet: | he might have |
| [23:04:00] | CyberKnet: | I was being silly and only looking for it at NewEgg |
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| [23:04:00] | Chutt: | $120, i don't remember offhand where i bought it from |
| [23:05:00] | Chutt: | not somewhere i normally get stuff from, is all |
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| [23:05:00] | CyberKnet: | techonweb seems to stock it for 106 add shipping. that's not too bad. |
| [23:06:00] | mchou: | Chutt: any issues with the powere supply connectors reaching? |
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| [23:06:00] | Chutt: | nope |
| [23:06:00] | Chutt: | plenty of room to spare |
| [23:06:00] | mchou: | nice. |
| [23:06:00] | Chutt: | antec truepower 2 550 |
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| [23:06:00] | CyberKnet: | that's a nice solid PS too. |
| [23:06:00] | mchou: | 550?? |
| [23:07:00] | mchou: | that's a lot of juice :) |
| [23:07:00] | Chutt: | ayup |
| [23:08:00] | Chutt: | heh, first part of the review of the p180's up at silentpcreview |
| [23:08:00] | CyberKnet: | so long as you don't need to do a lot of CD switching it looks like a good case. |
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| [23:08:00] | Chutt: | the door folds back completely if you do that |
| [23:10:00] | CyberKnet: | anything you noticed about it after you got it you wish you would have known before you bought it? |
| [23:10:00] | Chutt: | nope |
| [23:10:00] | Chutt: | it _is_ a big case, though |
| [23:11:00] | CyberKnet: | total capacity of three, or four 120mm fans? I read a review that indicated three standard + 1 optional, but it appears to be 2 standard + 1 optional... |
| [23:11:00] | Chutt: | there's 3 standard |
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| [23:14:00] | CyberKnet: | wonder why so many sites are incorrectly identifying it as 2 preinstalled fans. |
| [23:14:00] | Beirdo: | put wings on that puppy and some wheels, and it will fly away |
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| [23:23:00] | xris: | ahh, damn those who got me to like espresso |
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| [23:25:00] | Beirdo: | you're welcome |
| [23:26:00] | xris: | heh. wasn't you, though. |
| [23:26:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:26:00] | ** xris wants a pacojet.. anyone have $2500 to spare? ** | |
| [23:27:00] | jonK: | depends, whats a pacojet |
| [23:27:00] | xris: | pacojet.com |
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| [23:27:00] | xris: | think shave-ice machine, but it shaves of 1–2 microns thick. |
| [23:27:00] | jonK: | and what would i be shaving with this? |
| [23:28:00] | Beirdo: | ice |
| [23:28:00] | Beirdo: | ? |
| [23:28:00] | xris: | freeze solid: juice + fruit.... |
| [23:28:00] | xris: | put into pacojet, get instant sorbet. |
| [23:28:00] | mchou: | xris: wouldnt the ice melt as it's being shaved? |
| [23:28:00] | xris: | mchou: no, spins too fast. |
| [23:28:00] | jonK: | i was jsut about to ask that |
| [23:28:00] | xris: | even my vitamix is better than that. |
| [23:28:00] | jonK: | at that thickness, at room temperature |
| [23:28:00] | mchou: | exactly. |
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| [23:29:00] | kormoc2: | nah, ice has some extra energy |
| [23:29:00] | kormoc2: | or the lack there of |
| [23:29:00] | xris: | jonK: it's very fast. but that's probably a bit of where the price tag comes from. |
| [23:29:00] | kormoc2: | that it can take it. |
| [23:29:00] | xris: | it's not like it's sitting all alone at that thickness... you're sending it into a bowl (or whatever) where it will refreeze, but in the form of ice cream rather than a solid block. |
| [23:30:00] | mchou: | I wonder how they measured 1–2 microns of ice. |
| [23:30:00] | xris: | beats me. |
| [23:30:00] | kormoc2: | electron microscope? |
| [23:30:00] | xris: | measure the blade, probably. |
| [23:30:00] | mchou: | you guys are too gullible to mktging claims. |
| [23:30:00] | ** kormoc2 shrugs ** | |
| [23:30:00] | xris: | mchou: um, that company doesn't really have to market anything. |
| [23:31:00] | mchou: | even with refraction you wont be able to measure that. |
| [23:31:00] | ** Beirdo thinks mchou is just a silly kunnigit ** | |
| [23:31:00] | xris: | it's not exactly a home-use kind of item. or even an average-restaurant kind of item. |
| [23:31:00] | jonK: | assuming they are correct: is having my ice shaved that thin superior? |
| [23:31:00] | xris: | but for a pastry chef who specializes in frozen desserts, it's a godsend. |
| [23:32:00] | kormoc2: | jonK, for certain desserts, yes |
| [23:32:00] | xris: | jonK: it's more a matter of being able to make custom frozen desserts on-demand for customers. |
| [23:32:00] | jonK: | sno-cone? |
| [23:32:00] | mchou: | I agree with jonK. The claims need critical examination :) |
| [23:32:00] | xris: | jonK: think sorbet, not sno-cone. |
| [23:32:00] | jonK: | but i am happy with a sno-cone |
| [23:32:00] | xris: | mchou: my wife knows chefs who've used them. they do work. |
| [23:32:00] | jonK: | especially the three color one |
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| [23:32:00] | xris: | lol |
| [23:32:00] | kormoc2: | sno cones are yum, but sorbets are better |
| [23:32:00] | ** xris agrees with kormoc2 ** | |
| [23:32:00] | kormoc2: | esp tri colored sorbets! ;) |
| [23:33:00] | xris: | think about the kind of restaurants that don't have prices on the menu, and a dessert might run you $20+ |
| [23:33:00] | mchou: | I no fan of sorbet but love shaved ice. |
| [23:33:00] | xris: | it all depends on how it's served. |
| [23:33:00] | mchou: | hand shaved ice, that is :) |
| [23:34:00] | xris: | I've heard wonders of grapefruit-champagne sorbet |
| [23:34:00] | mchou: | blech!! |
| [23:34:00] | kormoc2: | mchou, you're likly a sadiest arn't cha? :P |
| [23:34:00] | Beirdo: | that sounds yummy |
| [23:34:00] | xris: | great palate-cleanser. |
| [23:34:00] | mchou: | cant mix 2 more disgusting flavors together :) |
| [23:35:00] | xris: | mchou: sure you can. gin + tonic. ;) |
| [23:35:00] | xris: | oh, + vermouth... so maybe it takes 3. |
| [23:35:00] | kormoc2: | mchou, veggamite and scrapple? |
| [23:35:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: you're one opinionated SOB today aren't ya? |
| [23:35:00] | mchou: | nah, coffee and spinach :) |
| [23:35:00] | jonK: | orange juice and toothpaste |
| [23:35:00] | jonK: | shaved ice |
| [23:35:00] | jonK: | sorbet |
| [23:36:00] | xris: | is "toothpaste" a flavor? |
| [23:36:00] | kormoc2: | jonK, sounds like a minty orange jelious |
| [23:36:00] | jonK: | if gravy can be just "brown and water" |
| [23:36:00] | jonK: | then yes |
| [23:36:00] | xris: | orange + carrot is good.... |
| [23:36:00] | xris: | cucumber + gin is good |
| [23:36:00] | jonK: | carrot + applle is too |
| [23:36:00] | kormoc2: | watermellon + vodka == good |
| [23:36:00] | xris: | carrot and most fruit is good. |
| [23:37:00] | jonK: | i don't know why, but citrus and toothpaste is just nasty |
| [23:37:00] | Beirdo: | cranberry + vodka |
| [23:37:00] | jonK: | if you like flavored vodka, I very strongly recommend hangar 1 |
| [23:37:00] | xris: | I've seen citrus-flavored toothpaste before. |
| [23:38:00] | kormoc2: | cirtus listerine + minty toothpaste |
| [23:38:00] | Beirdo: | raspberry + vodka |
| [23:38:00] | kormoc2: | jonK, hanger 1? |
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| [23:38:00] | Beirdo: | Hangar 18.. nice song |
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| [23:40:00] | jonK: | hangar 1 brand of vodka |
| [23:40:00] | jonK: | expensive but the best i've ever had |
| [23:40:00] | dh0: | hello, I am setting up mythtv on my debian machine. I am having sql problems. I am very unfamiliar with mysql. It doesnt seem to allow connections. I am not sure why. |
| [23:41:00] | Beirdo: | if it's flavored, it sucks |
| [23:41:00] | jonK: | connections from a remote machine? |
| [23:41:00] | dh0: | sorry, no i am running it all on one machine |
| [23:41:00] | dh0: | backend and frontend |
| [23:41:00] | dh0: | looking on localhost |
| [23:41:00] | jonK: | dh0 actually, either way, check /etc/mysql/my.cnf for the line "skip-networking" |
| [23:41:00] | jonK: | comment out this line |
| [23:42:00] | darkfire (darkfire@pcp08707517pcs.shrpsr01.tn.comcast.net) Quit () | |
| [23:43:00] | jonK: | hangar one makes a rasberry, orange, lime, and citron infused vodka |
| [23:43:00] | dh0: | there isnt a line to coment out. although it does mention skip-networking. should i just add it? |
| [23:43:00] | jonK: | where does it mention it? |
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| [23:44:00] | dh0: | can i paste 3 lines? |
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| [23:44:00] | jonK: | what the hell, |
| [23:44:00] | jonK: | knock your self out |
| [23:44:00] | jonK: | www.hangarone.com |
| [23:44:00] | jonK: | fantastic |
| [23:44:00] | dh0: | # Instead of skip-networking the default is now to listen only on |
| [23:44:00] | dh0: | # localhost which is more compatible and is not less secure. |
| [23:44:00] | dh0: | bind-address = 127.0.0.1 |
| [23:44:00] | dh0: | and the line bvefore that is |
| [23:44:00] | jonK: | comment out the bind address line |
| [23:44:00] | dh0: | k |
| [23:45:00] | dh0: | that it? |
| [23:45:00] | jonK: | should be |
| [23:45:00] | dh0: | so what did that just do? |
| [23:45:00] | temmihoo: | ok now i have compiled mythtv from sources to fix the No PIDS problem (as per suggested in url i was given earlier on today), problem is, how do i tell the library loader to use the new library instead of the existing one? |
| [23:46:00] | dh0: | if its anything like os x libraries and frameworks i would check for some shell variable. but i really wouldnt know |
| [23:46:00] | jonK: | allowed connections on more network addresses than just 127.0.0.1 |
| [23:46:00] | dh0: | jonk, i was conecting from localhost though |
| [23:46:00] | kormoc2: | temmihoo, explain more? |
| [23:47:00] | jonK: | is it working now? |
| [23:47:00] | dh0: | 1. do i have to restart mysql somehow. 2. how does that fix things if i was conecting from localhost |
| [23:47:00] | dh0: | let me check |
| [23:47:00] | jonK: | yes restartr mysql |
| [23:47:00] | temmihoo: | kormoc2: i want /home/mythtv/testinstallaatio/bin/mythtv to use libraries installed in /home/mythtv/tesinstallaatio/lib instead of the older versions from /usr/lib |
| [23:48:00] | dh0: | how do i restart it? soryy, this is my first time |
| [23:48:00] | temmihoo: | dh0: depending on your distro try: sh /etc/init.d/mysql restart |
| [23:49:00] | dh0: | yeah that did it. i am on debian btw |
| [23:49:00] | temmihoo: | anyhow it seems to compile nicely without too much fuzz, just some ./configure --flags-long-like-gnu-ones-always-are |
| [23:49:00] | kormoc2: | temmihoo, did you try LD_PRELOAD_PATH='/home/mythtv/tesinstallaatio/lib' /home/mythtv/testinstallaatio/bin/mythtv ? |
| [23:49:00] | dh0: | that restarted it i mean |
| [23:49:00] | dh0: | now going to check if it works |
| [23:49:00] | temmihoo: | kormoc2: that is exactly what i was asking thx |
| [23:49:00] | kormoc2: | your welcome |
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| [23:52:00] | riddlebox: | can you minimize mythtv and do other things, like burn dvds? |
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| [23:52:00] | temmihoo: | it still complains, how do i check which libraries does the dynamic link loader find for a binary? |
| [23:52:00] | temmihoo: | i exported LD_PRELOAD_PATH as usually |
| [23:53:00] | dh0: | jonk, doesnt appear to be working. after i ran mythtv-setup, it said run /etc/cron.daily/mythtv-backend. when i did i got this Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| [23:53:00] | kothog (~kothog@d66-183-170-199.bchsia.telus.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [23:54:00] | dh0: | Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
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| [23:54:00] | dh0: | i dont know where to go from there |
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| [23:55:00] | jonK: | dh0, that's not a network visibility problem |
| [23:56:00] | dh0: | ok |
| [23:56:00] | jonK: | it may be a permissions problem |
| [23:56:00] | dh0: | okay |
| [23:56:00] | jonK: | look at the docs 6.2 |
| [23:56:00] | dh0: | cool |
| [23:56:00] | jonK: | myth.org documentation ch 6.2 |
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| [23:57:00] | jsldub: | how could i fix the fact that all of my channel numbers are off by one? so when i set to record a channel, it records the right info, but the physical show is wrong |
| [23:57:00] | dh0: | yeah, i did do 6.2 already |
| [23:57:00] | dh0: | i will try it again... |
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| [23:57:00] | jonK: | so when you try mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg |
| [23:58:00] | dh0: | by the way jonK, i appreciate your help |
| [23:58:00] | jonK: | my current billing rate is $195/hr |
| [23:58:00] | temmihoo: | kormoc2: ldd tells me it still is hunting from /usr/lib |
| [23:58:00] | dh0: | :) |
| [23:58:00] | dh0: | says enter password |
| [23:59:00] | dh0: | is there a password i should be using? |
| [23:59:00] | dh0: | for mythtv stuff? |
| [23:59:00] | temmihoo: | what man page would tell me the loader-relevant environment variables? |
| [23:59:00] | jonK: | whatever password you want, |
| [23:59:00] | dh0: | ok |
| [23:59:00] | dh0: | shit |
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