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Tuesday, June 28th, 2005, 00:02 UTC
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[00:13:00] monsoon: ok booted up with pvr-150 in it looked like it was detected... what do I do next?
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[00:20:00] monsoon: if I go to watchtv Im told that all available inputs are being used for recording... but there is nothing in the delete recordings menu
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[00:36:00] jonK_: question: what sort of IDE to people here like?
[00:41:00] jonK_: anyone?
[00:41:00] kormoc: jedit works well
[00:41:00] kormoc: vim is grand
[00:41:00] jonK_: I love vi
[00:41:00] jonK_: I have even used a plugin wiht msword to make it run like vi
[00:42:00] jonK_: i stop putting :wq all over the place
[00:42:00] monsoon: vim here
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[00:42:00] jonK_: but was thinking about starting to navigate through eclipse or kdevelop
[00:42:00] jonK_: and wondered if anyone had any input
[00:43:00] monsoon: mmm chocolate lucky charms
[00:43:00] jonK_: ? there is such a thing?
[00:43:00] monsoon: yes indeed!
[00:43:00] monsoon: :)
[00:43:00] jonK_: or are you eating lucky charms with choco-milk
[00:44:00] monsoon: nope chocolate lucky charms :)
[00:44:00] jonK_: because there's not enough sugar in the cereal!
[00:44:00] jonK_: make sure it's in the milk too!
[00:44:00] monsoon: ok Im using knoppmyth and booted up with my pvr-150 in, what do I need to do to get it configured now?
[00:47:00] monsoon: help?
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[00:48:00] jonK_: start by making sure ivtv is installed and that the modules are loading properly
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[00:50:00] monsoon: jonk, ivtv is loaded
[00:50:00] jonK_: are you sure it's working correctly?
[00:51:00] monsoon: no, how do I check that?
[00:51:00] monsoon: or how can I
[00:51:00] jonK_: try to just grab some raw video, if it's working, there is always a video stream shooting out ofit
[00:51:00] jonK_: is it the only capture card?
[00:52:00] monsoon: yes just one
[00:52:00] jonK_: then "cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg" should redirect the output of the video stream to the file test.mpg
[00:52:00] jonK_: do that and after a few seconds ctl-c out of it
[00:52:00] jonK_: try to play the file you get
[00:53:00] bhursey: im counting down the min tell I go home from class to work on my myth box LOL
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[00:55:00] monsoon: jonk, im trying to play it in mythtv and it doesnt seem to play anything
[00:56:00] jonK_: no...
[00:56:00] bhursey: does the cd disto have tvtime?
[00:56:00] bhursey: or awtv?
[00:56:00] monsoon: play it in something else?
[00:56:00] jonK_: just use mplayer
[00:56:00] jonK_: or did you get a file of any size?
[00:56:00] jonK_: try ls -lh test.mpg
[00:57:00] monsoon: yah 3.3mb
[00:57:00] jonK_: googd
[00:57:00] jonK_: try mplayer < test.mpg
[00:57:00] monsoon: ok I get a black screen, with what sounds like white noise
[00:57:00] jonK_: bad sign..
[00:58:00] jonK_: when i asked about ivtv how did you verify??
[00:58:00] monsoon: im not using cable btw just antena
[00:58:00] monsoon: lsmod
[00:58:00] jonK_: oh.. then that may be it
[00:58:00] monsoon: yah
[00:58:00] monsoon: let me plug in a vhs
[00:58:00] jonK_: will that work? The is over the air broadcast an NTSC signal?
[00:59:00] monsoon: i dont know for sure, but I was told in here that it would work
[01:00:00] jonK_: did it look like no signal snow?
[01:00:00] jonK_: e.g., tuned to channel 3? where no broadcast on 3?
[01:01:00] monsoon: no it was just black
[01:01:00] jonK_: I'd really like to be convinced the module is loading correctly, do you know dmesg?
[01:02:00] monsoon: yes
[01:02:00] jonK_: does dmesg from start init ivtv to end init ivtv have anything that gives you pause
[01:02:00] jonK_: a "not found"
[01:02:00] jonK_: or "firmware not loaded"
[01:02:00] jonK_: or "address ox2c not found"
[01:02:00] jonK_: etc...
[01:03:00] monsoon: no nothing that looks like an error
[01:04:00] jonK_: and you copied the firmware and HcWck... files into /lib/modules?
[01:04:00] monsoon: no I did'nt do anything at all, didnt know I had to ;|
[01:04:00] jonK_: or in other words/ does /lib/modules/
[01:04:00] jonK_: have an invtv-enc and ivtv-dec file
[01:05:00] jonK_: (names not exact)
[01:05:00] jonK_: and a HcWMak.. file(same)
[01:05:00] monsoon: it has ivtv-fw-dec.bin and ivtv-fw-enc.bin
[01:05:00] monsoon: not including whats in the other dirs in /lib/modules
[01:06:00] jonK_: right
[01:06:00] jonK_: 3rd one should be HcwMakoA.rom
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[01:06:00] monsoon: hmm I dont have that jonk_
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[01:08:00] monsoon: locate doesnt find it either
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[01:17:00] jonK_: monsoon
[01:17:00] jonK_: it wont...
[01:18:00] jonK_: it's on the cd that came with the pvr150
[01:18:00] monsoon: ohhhh
[01:18:00] jonK_: and dmesg should have reported that, you might have missed the line
[01:18:00] jonK_: also... modinfo ivtv
[01:18:00] jonK_: what version of the ivtv module
[01:19:00] monsoon: jonK_, version 0.2.0-rc3j
[01:19:00] jonK_: i'd upgrade it
[01:19:00] jonK_: try first, but i think you'll want to move into the 0.3.x versions
[01:19:00] jonK_: 150 support was backported from 0.3...
[01:19:00] jonK_: may or may not have been in rc3j
[01:20:00] monsoon: ok speaking of upgrading I upgraded debian after installing knoppmyth, and Im having problems with xlibs-static-dev
[01:20:00] monsoon: ok
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[01:38:00] monsoon: jonK_
[01:40:00] monsoon: so after cping HcwMakoA.ROM into /lib/modules/ do I just rmmod and modprove ivtv again?
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[01:45:00] monsoon: if anyone feels like helping me get pvr-150 to work, I'd appreciate it.
[01:46:00] mr_clark: Hi guys. I downloaded an avi file to my knoppmyth box, /myth/videos. When I go into the videos area of the interface it sees the file but won't play it. Any suggestions on how to watch the file?
[01:47:00] jonK_: monsoon yes, that should work...
[01:48:00] jonK_: open another shell window and run "tail -f /var/log/messags"
[01:48:00] jonK_: *messages
[01:48:00] jonK_: then rmmod ivtv and modprobe ivtv
[01:49:00] monsoon: jonK_, that is what I did, but unfortunatley Im getting a different looking black screen now, and no sound...
[01:49:00] monsoon: im running vhs to card via both rc and coax
[01:49:00] jonK_: do you have alias setting up a character device?
[01:49:00] jonK_: alias char-major-81–0 ivtv
[01:49:00] monsoon: jonK_, I dont know I havent been able to find a howto for this
[01:49:00] monsoon: in modprobe.conf?
[01:50:00] jonK_: i usually put it in /etc/modprobe.c/ivtv
[01:50:00] jonK_: as it's own file
[01:50:00] monsoon: ok
[01:50:00] jonK_: not sure if knopmyth has a modprobe.conf
[01:51:00] monsoon: no it doesnt
[01:51:00] jonK_: also add "alias char-major-81 videodev"
[01:52:00] monsoon: ok rmmoded and modprobed... trying again
[01:53:00] monsoon: grr same black screen
[01:53:00] jonK_: looks like rc3j has support, i'd be concered about having stuff on multiple inputs, just use the antenna input
[01:53:00] monsoon: ill try upgrading ivtv I guess
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[01:53:00] jonK_: i would do that
[01:53:00] jonK_: you'll probably need to download and compile the source
[01:53:00] monsoon: im only doing one input at a time
[01:53:00] jonK_: just checking
[01:54:00] jonK_: post your modprobe for the ivtv card
[01:54:00] monsoon: im typing on my laptop right now, let me see if the myth box will get online
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[02:01:00] snowdude: howdy all
[02:01:00] snowdude: hows everyone doing?
[02:02:00] jonK_: hola
[02:02:00] jonK_: just working
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[02:03:00] snowdude: oh
[02:03:00] snowdude: :-D
[02:03:00] snowdude: wasnt sure if anyone was even alive in here
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[02:05:00] snowdude: so....
[02:05:00] snowdude: does anyone talk in here
[02:05:00] monsoon: uggh i hate this wireless card... never connects
[02:05:00] snowdude: lol
[02:05:00] snowdude: weak signal?
[02:06:00] monsoon: a bit, but my 54g allways connects immediatley... not the 802.11b
[02:06:00] snowdude: strange
[02:06:00] monsoon: absolutley obnoxious is what it is
[02:06:00] snowdude: lol
[02:06:00] snowdude: linksys router?
[02:06:00] monsoon: umm yes
[02:07:00] mchou: jonK_: got a moment?
[02:07:00] snowdude: a 802.11g router?
[02:07:00] monsoon: both g and b
[02:08:00] snowdude: oh ok
[02:08:00] snowdude: cuz there is 3rd party firmware that can boost the power to the antenas to increase your range
[02:08:00] snowdude: if that is the problem...
[02:09:00] monsoon: hmm really? for the router or the nic?
[02:09:00] safecracker: sveasoft works wonders
[02:09:00] snowdude: for the router
[02:09:00] snowdude: yeah
[02:09:00] snowdude: sveasoft
[02:09:00] snowdude: have it running right now :-D
[02:09:00] monsoon: hmmm cool, Ill tcheck it out right away
[02:09:00] snowdude: ok
[02:09:00] monsoon: damnit, is anyone running knoppmyth?
[02:09:00] safecracker: i have it on 25 routers running in a mesh
[02:09:00] snowdude: wow
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[02:09:00] snowdude: i only have it on 2 lol
[02:10:00] safecracker: ya its on CPE soekris boxes with cuwin on the AP's
[02:10:00] scott_2: Hello!
[02:10:00] snowdude: howdy
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[02:10:00] snowdude: cool
[02:11:00] scott_2: since the 0.18.1 update is there a way to manually enter remote mysql database information? used to be /usr/local/share/mysql.txt
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[02:11:00] snowdude: i could never get my wireless card to work with linux so i just linked up another router so i could be dirrectly plugged in
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[02:12:00] mchou: snowdude: hah, excellent plan :)
[02:12:00] snowdude: :-D
[02:12:00] snowdude: merci
[02:13:00] mchou: router would be a bit bulky to carry around w/laptop though.....
[02:13:00] mchou: especially if router needs power brick.
[02:13:00] snowdude: haha yeah....lucky for me its a desktop
[02:14:00] mchou: anothere alternative is use a use attached nic.
[02:14:00] mchou: another alternative is use a usb attached nic.
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[02:15:00] snowdude: yeah i didnt think of that
[02:15:00] snowdude: and i have one of this just sitting around
[02:15:00] snowdude: oh well
[02:16:00] snowdude: i have a question regarding mythtv....i have a hauppauge pvr-150 and i can only get a picture if I have something plugged into the s-video in port on it.....but cant get anything to come through on the coaxil input
[02:17:00] snowdude: i have the latest ivtv drivers
[02:17:00] snowdude: im thinking its just a wrong frequency.....
[02:17:00] snowdude: any ideas?
[02:18:00] snowdude: or would i be better off just talking to the wall?
[02:18:00] snowdude: apparently the wall :-p
[02:19:00] briand: a question for you, snowdude...
[02:19:00] snowdude: yes?
[02:19:00] briand: how forthcoming has your wall been in the past, when you've had these dialogs?
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[02:21:00] safecracker: snowdude did u scroll through the inputs usig "c"
[02:21:00] snowdude: well........lets just say not to well
[02:22:00] snowdude: i used....
[02:23:00] safecracker: like do u see anything (fuz atleast)
[02:24:00] snowdude: i was following the HOWTO at wilsonet.com for installing mythtv on fedora core 3...since im new to linux...
[02:24:00] snowdude: yeah i did
[02:24:00] snowdude: i ran the command # /usr/lib/ivtv/ptune-ui.pl &
[02:24:00] snowdude: # mplayer -vo xv /dev/video0
[02:24:00] snowdude: and i could only get a feed from the s-video input
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[02:25:00] safecracker: i use the cable for cable tv so im not quite sure
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[02:25:00] snowdude: hmmm
[02:26:00] snowdude: cuz i have a directv reciever that i have plugged in to my pvr-150 card via coaxil cable
[02:27:00] snowdude: and i couldnt get anything to show that even looked like anything
[02:27:00] snowdude: do you have a pvr-150?
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[02:27:00] safecracker: when i had it on satilite we were using compisite input, im using a 250 but a couple guys on our staff have 150's
[02:27:00] snowdude: oh ok
[02:28:00] snowdude: what exactly is the composite input?
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[02:28:00] bhursey: red yellow white?
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[02:28:00] fatmatt: is anyone having issues with dvb-t where the sound drops out if you change channels a lot
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[02:29:00] snowdude: composite is the red yellow white connectors?
[02:29:00] safecracker: yes although i cant spell lol
[02:29:00] snowdude: oh ok
[02:29:00] safecracker: composite
[02:30:00] safecracker: for some reason my svideo didnt like the digital reciever when we tested on satilite
[02:30:00] snowdude: how did you have that composite plug into your pvr-150 card?
[02:30:00] safecracker: mines a 250 not a 150
[02:31:00] snowdude: ohhh
[02:31:00] snowdude: i thougth you were referring back to when you had one
[02:31:00] snowdude: but let me try something now that i think of it :-D
[02:31:00] snowdude: ill post back to see i i get anything
[02:31:00] safecracker: k
[02:31:00] topping: hey guys, anyone using fc4 with myth?
[02:32:00] snowdude: 4?
[02:32:00] snowdude: there is a forth one out?
[02:32:00] topping: yah
[02:32:00] snowdude: just recently?
[02:32:00] topping: few weeks?
[02:32:00] topping: i think
[02:32:00] snowdude: lol
[02:32:00] topping: doesn't seem to be a huge upgrade
[02:32:00] snowdude: oh
[02:33:00] snowdude: and here i just installed fc3
[02:33:00] topping: but i built this wanky RAID5 box for a friend and it doesn't compile cuz of the gcc 4.0
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[02:33:00] topping: so i'm kinda thinking hmmm...
[02:34:00] topping: can't compile, want 0.18 (not CVS), fc3 rpms work, but they don't have ircd support
[02:35:00] topping: need remote lol
[02:35:00] snowdude: ohhh
[02:36:00] topping: i just wish the at-rpms were compiled with ircd
[02:36:00] topping: s/with/against
[02:36:00] rjune: topping: I'm sing fc4 with myth
[02:37:00] topping: rjune: what version?
[02:37:00] topping: (of myth)
[02:37:00] rjune: 0.18.1
[02:37:00] rjune: I built the RPMs myself, want them?
[02:37:00] topping: :-D
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[02:37:00] topping: that would be great!
[02:37:00] rjune: they're consistant with fedora extras and livna though, so you won't get firewire support
[02:37:00] topping: that's okay
[02:37:00] rjune: http://www.bravegnuworld.com/~rjune/myth-fc4
[02:37:00] topping: ircd is all i care about
[02:38:00] topping: thanks!
[02:38:00] rjune: you will need livna for them
[02:38:00] rjune: I can't make any claims about ircd, as I don't use it
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[02:38:00] topping: hmm, maybe you don't have it then... it doesn't compile it in if it's not installed on the dev system
[02:38:00] snowdude: hey thanks...i just plugged it in with the composite plug and it worked beautifuilly
[02:39:00] topping: rjune: did you compile on FC4?
[02:39:00] rjune: topping: I'll take a look at it and see about updating the rpms
[02:39:00] rjune: topping: ayup
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[02:39:00] jsldub: is there a way to install every single lirc kernel module?
[02:39:00] rjune: topping: you WILL need livna though
[02:39:00] topping: ok.... and i meant lirc, not ircd lol
[02:40:00] rjune: ok
[02:40:00] rjune: I'll check, it'll be a few days though, my build box is a P3 533
[02:40:00] topping: rjune: i don't mind compiling it, what i was having more problems with was the compile stopping
[02:40:00] rjune: well the srpms I used are up there too
[02:40:00] topping: libavcodec doesn't seem to compile
[02:41:00] topping: oh cool
[02:41:00] topping: :)
[02:41:00] jsldub: what would be the ./configure option in lircd to set up to use lirc_gpio ?
[02:44:00] topping: jsldub: ./configure --help ?
[02:45:00] jsldub: topping: i have tried that command. it shows a list of possible --with- options, and a list of supported devices, but no list linking the two
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[02:46:00] topping: jsldub: dunno then, sry
[02:48:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc, you around?
[02:48:00] kormoc: hihi
[02:48:00] SlicerDicer-: hey
[02:48:00] SlicerDicer-: I am trying to figure out why I cant connect to the backened
[02:48:00] SlicerDicer-: end rather
[02:49:00] kormoc: yeah?
[02:49:00] SlicerDicer-: 2005-06–27 17:43:30.249 User canceled database configuration
[02:49:00] SlicerDicer-: couldn't open db
[02:49:00] kormoc: you canceled the db configuration?
[02:49:00] SlicerDicer-: no
[02:50:00] SlicerDicer-: Database error was:
[02:50:00] SlicerDicer-: Host '192.168.1.156' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server
[02:50:00] monsoon: do I select pvr-250, pvr-350 in cardtype (capture card setup) if Im using a pvr-150?
[02:51:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, you sure your user has permission to connect?
[02:51:00] SlicerDicer-: I dont know
[02:51:00] SlicerDicer-: I suck with mysql lol
[02:51:00] kormoc: there's a command in the mysql config section on mythtv.org that tells you the command to set that up
[02:52:00] snowdude: yes you do monsoon
[02:52:00] monsoon: thank you snowdude
[02:52:00] snowdude: no problem
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[02:55:00] snowdude: with the IR Blaster that came with my pvr-150.....can i use the IR transmitter to control my DirecTv Box or do I still need to get the Low Speed Data port connector?
[02:55:00] monsoon: do you all use labs.zap2it?
[02:56:00] snowdude: i do
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[02:56:00] monsoon: is it free snowdude ?\
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[02:56:00] snowdude: yeah
[02:56:00] monsoon: phew :)
[02:56:00] snowdude: in order to make a login you need the code that is in the mythtb documentation
[02:57:00] snowdude: mythtv*
[02:57:00] monsoon: oh cool i was about to ask that
[02:57:00] snowdude: The next screen is the subscription registration. In the "Certificate Code" field, enter ZIYN-DQZO-SBUT
[02:57:00] monsoon: oh can I use that one?
[02:57:00] snowdude: yeah
[02:57:00] monsoon: thank you :)
[02:58:00] snowdude: its from the documentation on mythtv
[02:58:00] snowdude: mythtv.org
[02:58:00] monsoon: very cool :)
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[02:59:00] abarbaccia: hey all – hows it going?
[03:00:00] abarbaccia: Beirdo, I'm making an ubuntu mythtv website/guide – i just started it but have a lot of notes on paper so it shouldnt be too long – but i wanna know if its cool to link to your website (your irc faq)
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[03:01:00] snowdude: how is the ubuntu distro?
[03:01:00] snowdude: never tried it before
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[03:01:00] monsoon: oh its not free for long eh?
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[03:02:00] abarbaccia: snowdude, its based off debian – go to www.ubuntu.com  – - and ubuntu will always be free
[03:02:00] sofa_: i here its good its based off of debian.
[03:02:00] monsoon: i dont like it
[03:02:00] abarbaccia: www.distrowatch.com – great for comparing distros
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[03:02:00] monsoon: i meant zap2it isnt free for long
[03:02:00] abarbaccia: monsoon, oh – sorry -
[03:02:00] monsoon: np :)
[03:02:00] snowdude: thanks abarbaccia
[03:03:00] snowdude: i was just at ubuntu
[03:04:00] monsoon: snowdude, when you setup video sources for labs.zap2it, do you remmember if it was LxM or DataDirect?
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[03:07:00] snowdude: datadirect
[03:07:00] monsoon: oh crap, I accidentally killed the setup (after first boot install) can I start it again? (knoppmyth)
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[03:07:00] snowdude: yeah
[03:07:00] monsoon: oh good
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[03:08:00] snowdude: in shell type mythtvsetup
[03:08:00] monsoon: oh great thanks
[03:08:00] snowdude: i think it should bring back up the setup
[03:09:00] snowdude: for some reason my ir remote crapped out
[03:09:00] snowdude: i type /sbin/service lircd start to start it back up.......
[03:10:00] snowdude: and its only coming up saying "Starting infrared remote control daemon: [OK]"
[03:11:00] snowdude: but when I try to test it with /usr/bin/irw nothing happens......that doesnt even execute anything
[03:12:00] snowdude: actually it says "connect: Connection refused"
[03:13:00] topping: snowdude: strace irw ?
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[03:14:00] snowdude: you want me to type that in?
[03:15:00] snowdude: i got the following:
[03:15:00] snowdude: execve("/usr/bin/irw", ["irw"], [/* 40 vars */]) = 0
[03:15:00] snowdude: uname({sys="Linux", node="localhost.localdomain", ...}) = 0
[03:15:00] snowdude: brk(0) = 0x804a000
[03:15:00] snowdude: access("/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[03:15:00] snowdude: open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3
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[03:15:00] topping: the end of it is what you are after
[03:16:00] topping: then scroll back and see what socket it is trying to open
[03:16:00] topping: i'm guessing you need the kernel module
[03:16:00] topping: lirc-*-kmdl-*.rpm
[03:16:00] topping: dinnertime, bbiab
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[03:17:00] snowdude46: lol
[03:17:00] snowdude46: woopsies
[03:17:00] snowdude46: forgot about how it did that
[03:18:00] snowdude46: any insite topping?
[03:20:00] monsoon: so what ivtv version are you folks using?
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[03:22:00] safecracker: lol irblasters being a pain for me now too, wth]
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[03:25:00] snowdude46: lol
[03:25:00] snowdude46: i have
[03:25:00] snowdude46: the latest version for ivtv
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[03:25:00] snowdude46: 3.6
[03:25:00] snowdude46: or something like that
[03:27:00] snowdude46: do you know why the irblaster isnt working safecracker?
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[03:31:00] monsoon: hmm when running /etc/cron.daily/mythtv-backend it times out when connecting to backed server 127.0.0.1
[03:31:00] monsoon: im only running on one box
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[03:35:00] snowdude46: hmmm
[03:35:00] snowdude46: strange
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[03:37:00] jonK_: monsoon, your mysql setup may prohibit network connections by default and only allow a connection through a unix socket
[03:37:00] opopanax_gentoo: hey all. i have my firewire and a dct 3xxx series motorola cable box. i'm having issues setting up the "capture card" in mythtv-setup properly. I am fairly certain the capture node is set up correctly, but when I go to "watch tv" mythfrontend spits out something about "unexpected response to myth_proto_version"
[03:37:00] jonK_: check /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[03:37:00] jonK_: for the line "skip networking"
[03:37:00] monsoon: ok
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[03:37:00] jonK_: and comment it out
[03:39:00] monsoon: yes it is there and uncommented
[03:40:00] monsoon: crap... still same error
[03:40:00] topping: (18:13:38) topping: the end of it is what you are after
[03:40:00] topping: (18:13:55) topping: then scroll back and see what socket it is trying to open
[03:40:00] topping: (18:14:15) topping: i'm guessing you need the kernel module
[03:40:00] topping: (18:14:33) topping: lirc-*-kmdl-*.rpm
[03:40:00] topping: (18:14:44) topping: dinnertime, bbiab
[03:40:00] topping: back, lol
[03:46:00] jonK_: monsoon, you need to restart the samba daemon
[03:46:00] jonK_: errr mysql
[03:46:00] jonK_: daemon
[03:47:00] monsoon: ohh ok
[03:47:00] jonK_: try /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[03:47:00] jonK_: (as root)
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[03:48:00] monsoon: k trying again
[03:49:00] monsoon: arg jonK_ still getting the error
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[03:56:00] jonK_: hmm...
[03:56:00] monsoon: jonK_, ps -ae|grep myth returned nothing
[03:56:00] snowdude46: whats the command to remove a dirrectory and everything within the dirrectory?
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[03:56:00] jonK_: rm -rf
[03:56:00] safecracker: rm -r
[03:56:00] snowdude46: thank you
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[03:57:00] monsoon: so I started mythbackend, and re-ram mythtv-backend Im not sure if it worked... it dident say it timed out this time, but it did finish reight after "Connecting to backend server:"
[03:57:00] jonK_: well then the backend is not running
[03:58:00] jonK_: monsoon, mythtv-backend is just a startup script to run mythbackend the program
[03:58:00] jonK_: you can feed it start, stop, restart arguments
[03:58:00] monsoon: ok then Im totally confused
[03:58:00] jonK_: right?
[03:59:00] jonK_: etc/init.d/myth-backend
[03:59:00] jonK_: is what you're referring to
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[03:59:00] jonK_: ?
[03:59:00] monsoon: should I close mythbackend that I started in another console then?
[03:59:00] monsoon: before running myth-backend
[04:00:00] jonK_: if you try to run myth-backend start it should give you a response that it's already running then
[04:00:00] jonK_: try and see
[04:00:00] monsoon: it starts getting something from datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com
[04:00:00] jonK_: thats mythfilldatabase
[04:01:00] monsoon: no its mythtv-backend
[04:01:00] monsoon: /etc/cron.daily/mythtv-backend
[04:01:00] monsoon: start
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[04:01:00] jonK_: that's something else
[04:01:00] physh: greetings
[04:01:00] snowdude46: howdy
[04:01:00] jonK_: that's a script to run mythfilldatabase on a periodic basis, not suprisingly, daily
[04:02:00] monsoon: jonK_, is there someting I need to do so that backend starts automatically? or not
[04:02:00] snowdude46: i am totally stumped on why my infared remote isnt working anymore
[04:02:00] jonK_: run /etc/init.d/myth-backend start
[04:02:00] jonK_: then it should start on it's own thereafter, so yess, kill the one in a console
[04:02:00] physh: I've been setting up Mythtv, or trying, and finally have things I think mostly set up, but when I try to watch tv, I get an error saying I have no sound, and I get this error from my shell : X Error: XvBadPort 145
[04:02:00] physh: Major opcode: 139
[04:02:00] physh: Minor opcode: 15
[04:02:00] physh: Resource id: 0xffffffff
[04:02:00] physh: X Error: XvBadPort 145
[04:02:00] physh: Major opcode: 139
[04:02:00] physh: Minor opcode: 14
[04:02:00] snowdude46: have you gotten yours to work safe cracker?
[04:02:00] physh: Resource id: 0xffffffff
[04:02:00] physh: 2005-06–27 17:50:28.643 Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it.
[04:02:00] physh: You likely won't get any video.
[04:02:00] physh: 2005-06–27 17:50:28.814 Realtime priority would require SUID as root.
[04:02:00] physh: Killed
[04:03:00] physh: any ideas?
[04:03:00] jams: anybody seen cromz recently?
[04:03:00] snowdude46: havent seen him
[04:03:00] jonK_: back to work,...
[04:03:00] snowdude46: lol
[04:03:00] monsoon: jonK_, if I run ps ae |grep myth it should show mythbackend right?
[04:03:00] snowdude46: i have no idea physh
[04:08:00] snowdude46: is anyone else having trouble with their ir blaster remote?
[04:08:00] jonK_: if mythbackend is running
[04:11:00] monsoon: jonK_, and it needs to be running for my card to work?
[04:11:00] monsoon: im still getting the damnable black screen with noise...
[04:11:00] monsoon: even with 0.3 ivtv
[04:12:00] safecracker: lol this is mighty strange, Lirc is running yet the remote isnt working and nothing to do with Lirc has been changed
[04:13:00] snowdude46: same here!
[04:13:00] jonK_: no
[04:13:00] jonK_: it needs to be running t use mythtv
[04:14:00] jonK_: ivtv needs to be running
[04:14:00] jonK_: properly
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[04:14:00] jonK_: post the dmesg data for modprobe ivtv
[04:14:00] jonK_: from start ivtv init to end ivtv init
[04:14:00] jonK_: to pastebin.ca
[04:14:00] jonK_: dead battery in remote?
[04:14:00] snowdude46: lol
[04:15:00] snowdude46: i just changed my batteries
[04:15:00] snowdude46: and still nothing
[04:15:00] jonK_: ive done worse
[04:15:00] jonK_: check /etc/log/lircd
[04:15:00] jonK_: size of that file
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[04:15:00] jonK_: ls -lh /etc/log/lircd
[04:15:00] safecracker: it worked this morn and the batteries are new lol
[04:15:00] jonK_: cheap nafta batteries?
[04:16:00] snowdude46: no such file or directory
[04:16:00] monsoon: jonK_, getting irssi on that machine will post in a sec
[04:16:00] safecracker: bossman endurance batteries lol it was working this morn lol
[04:16:00] jonK_: did you reboot?
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[04:17:00] snowdude46: yeah...
[04:17:00] safecracker: it starts on reboot and i rebooted after it didnt work not b4
[04:17:00] jonK_: did you install from source?
[04:17:00] snowdude46: apt...
[04:18:00] jonK_: hmmm...
[04:18:00] safecracker: same here, i did source b4 but im lazy with this box
[04:18:00] snowdude46: lol
[04:18:00] jonK_: on reboot from make install you'll lose the devices (or at least they may be different)
[04:18:00] safecracker: i swear irblaster just has a shitty connection
[04:18:00] jonK_: solar flares?
[04:18:00] jonK_: permissions on /dev/lirc* correct?
[04:18:00] jonK_: lircd is running?
[04:18:00] safecracker: yes
[04:18:00] snowdude46: welll
[04:18:00] jonK_: for the device
[04:19:00] snowdude46: only lircd is running
[04:19:00] jonK_: try running not as a deamon see if you get any messages
[04:19:00] GreyFoxx: ]'\
[04:19:00] snowdude46: not lircmd
[04:19:00] jonK_: that;s for sending mouse type events from the remote
[04:19:00] snowdude46: oh
[04:19:00] snowdude46: ok
[04:19:00] snowdude46: guess i dont need that then
[04:19:00] safecracker: my gf is now playing ps2 so much for fixing the prob atm lol
[04:19:00] jonK_: kill whatever lircd you have running
[04:20:00] snowdude46: ok
[04:20:00] jonK_: and use lircd -n --device=/dev/device listed
[04:20:00] jonK_: in one window
[04:20:00] jonK_: then modprobe the module
[04:20:00] jonK_: see what happens
[04:20:00] jonK_: then run irw
[04:20:00] jonK_: both from another window (err.. you need the module running for lirc)
[04:20:00] SlicerDicer-: hey guys is there anyway to do away with the 3–4 second lag between the tv and mythtv? when I control my cablebox its almost unbearable to wait its hard to control it really
[04:20:00] jonK_: switch order
[04:20:00] opopanax_gentoo: looks like I don't have a raw1394 device node. recompiling 2.6.12 kernel cuz it comes with one by default.
[04:21:00] jonK_: not much you can do
[04:21:00] bhursey: Slicer by pass myths tv vierer
[04:21:00] jonK_: other than reduce the buffer before playing live tv
[04:21:00] safecracker: slicer do u mean while channel surfin?
[04:21:00] mchou: wow, I'm out of it. dual GPU display cards from nvidia.
[04:21:00] mchou: wtf??
[04:22:00] jonK_: thinks porn and "double your pleasure" "double your fun"
[04:22:00] SlicerDicer-: safecracker, I run my input from my cablebox to my pvr-350 how do I stop the lagtime?
[04:22:00] SlicerDicer-: its like 3–4 seconds off the cablebox delayed
[04:22:00] snowdude46: its still not showing a signal
[04:22:00] snowdude46: for the remote
[04:23:00] mchou: well, the price for dual proc vga cards is unobtainium.
[04:23:00] SlicerDicer-: bhursey, what you mean/
[04:23:00] jonK_: is the remote registering when you run irw?
[04:23:00] jonK_: 599?
[04:23:00] snowdude46: how would i check to see if it is?
[04:23:00] jonK_: run lircd not asa daemon
[04:23:00] jonK_: lircd -n --device=/dev/XXXX
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[04:24:00] jonK_: XXX=whatever your lirc device is
[04:24:00] jonK_: then in second window run irw
[04:24:00] jonK_: after killing any currently runing lircd daemons
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[04:24:00] bhursey: Slicer I maean you will not have the functionality of fasfoward rewind and pause
[04:24:00] jonK_: you should still have bause
[04:24:00] SlicerDicer-: but there is no way to do realtime? it has to have that delay bhursey?
[04:24:00] bhursey: with tv time?
[04:25:00] monsoon_: what? Im trying to join #mythtv-users on my desktop and its saying Im banned??
[04:25:00] bhursey: there is if you use tv time
[04:25:00] bhursey: www.tvtime.org
[04:25:00] GreyFoxx: [bhur: That's not an option with a pvr card
[04:25:00] bhursey: opps
[04:25:00] SlicerDicer-: hi GreyFoxx
[04:26:00] bhursey: ohh
[04:26:00] snowdude46: bash: lircd: command not found
[04:26:00] bhursey: well then I dont know how to get rid of the delay
[04:26:00] SlicerDicer-: I just want to get rid of that 3–4 second delay if its possible
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[04:26:00] GreyFoxx: SlicerDicer-: It's not completely possible
[04:26:00] SlicerDicer-: can you reduce it?
[04:27:00] bhursey: I think you can lessen the buffer.
[04:27:00] bhursey: i did it when I was trying to reduce the lagg.
[04:27:00] GreyFoxx: SlicerDicer-: You can use browse mode for changing the channel, but it will still have the lag when you actually change the channel
[04:27:00] snowdude46: jonK: where do i find what to put in the XXXX of what you had
[04:27:00] SlicerDicer-: GreyFoxx, I am using svideo imput
[04:28:00] SlicerDicer-: from my cablebox
[04:28:00] jonK_: ls -l /dev/lirc*
[04:28:00] GreyFoxx: That's irrelevant
[04:28:00] jonK_: what lirc devices do you have, and what are the premissions
[04:28:00] SlicerDicer-: I dont change channels with svideo with the pvr I use the cablebox
[04:28:00] jonK_: and resistance is fuitle
[04:28:00] jonK_: slicer, mythtv still buffers
[04:28:00] SlicerDicer-: and when I go to mess with the cablebox its horrid delay so makes browsing the ghetto comcast menu even more painful
[04:28:00] GreyFoxx: SlicerDicer-: There is still a buffer involved
[04:28:00] snowdude46: crw------- 1 root root 61, 0 Jun 27 21:39 /dev/lirc
[04:28:00] snowdude46: crw------- 1 root root 61, 0 Jun 27 21:39 /dev/lirc0
[04:28:00] snowdude46: srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Jun 27 22:22 /dev/lircd
[04:28:00] GreyFoxx: You are never watching "live" tv
[04:29:00] bhursey: i get /dev/lirc and /devlircd
[04:29:00] GreyFoxx: There is a inherent delay
[04:29:00] bhursey: i get /dev/lirc and /dev/lircd
[04:29:00] jonK_: snow 1: chmod 666 /dev/lirc0
[04:29:00] GreyFoxx: let alone any delay added by whatever you are using to change the channel on the cable box
[04:29:00] jonK_: 2: lircd -n --device=/dev/lirc0
[04:29:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: you want no delay get a bttv card.
[04:29:00] GreyFoxx: A Pvr is not designed for channel surgfing
[04:29:00] monsoon_: jonK_, http://pastebin.com/305015
[04:30:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou, alright I will keep that in mind
[04:30:00] GreyFoxx: But you can use browsemode to "surf" through the channels and show info and then finally just pick what you want to watch so there is only the one instance of a channel changing delay
[04:31:00] bhursey: hey Jonk i now have lircd 0.7.0[9532]: lircd(serial) ready
[04:31:00] SlicerDicer-: well the problem is I cannot get lirc to work
[04:31:00] jonK_: monsoon, i thought we talked about this,
[04:31:00] jonK_: look at line 22
[04:31:00] jonK_: now run irw in another window
[04:31:00] SlicerDicer-: ohh well I am going to go work on my computer see if I can get lirc to work
[04:31:00] snowdude46: im getting : bash: lircd: command not found
[04:31:00] SlicerDicer-: I am pissed off right now
[04:31:00] SlicerDicer-: many variables to my pissed off mode just buncha things hitting me at once lol
[04:31:00] snowdude46: lol
[04:31:00] jonK_: should i add my mocking/taunting to the list?
[04:32:00] bhursey: it killed lircd when I tried irw
[04:32:00] snowdude46: haha
[04:32:00] jonK_: what module are you running?
[04:32:00] bhursey: lircd 0.7.0[9532]: accepted new client on /dev/lircd
[04:32:00] bhursey: lircd 0.7.0[9532]: could not open /dev/lirc
[04:32:00] bhursey: lircd 0.7.0[9532]: default_init(): No such device
[04:32:00] bhursey: lircd 0.7.0[9532]: caught signal
[04:32:00] bhursey: Terminated
[04:32:00] monsoon_: no we didnt talk about irw
[04:32:00] abarbaccia: hey anybody here know how to get ur website to show up in google when you do searches?
[04:32:00] snowdude46: lol
[04:32:00] jonK_: im getting mixed up
[04:32:00] monsoon_: oh I forgot to do that after the last install
[04:32:00] SlicerDicer-: well... I cannot get mythtv .18 on ubuntu amd64 and other things that are being a pain so... bye bye ubuntu then lirc is not working a movie I wanted to record is on but I cant record it I mean ARGH!!! lol
[04:33:00] snowdude46: abarbaccia i think you can send in a requist for your site to get spidered through
[04:33:00] jonK_: bhursey, did you run it with /dev/lirc0 <-- the 0included?
[04:33:00] safecracker: slicer i have a box with ubuntu amd64
[04:33:00] abarbaccia: snowdude46, hurm – sounds annoying – it should do that automatically
[04:33:00] jonK_: i like ubuntu
[04:33:00] jonK_: i even like saying it
[04:33:00] jonK_: u
[04:33:00] jonK_: bunt
[04:33:00] jonK_: u
[04:33:00] LostSole: SlicerDicer-: yeah, mythtv and ubuntu on AMD64 still needs some work. I feel your pain. :)
[04:33:00] safecracker: abarbaccia search SEO
[04:34:00] abarbaccia: SlicerDicer-, ubuntu hoary and myth 0.18 don't play nice
[04:34:00] safecracker: do so
[04:34:00] jonK_: i have no problem with it, (although using k7)
[04:34:00] snowdude46: abarbaccia.....i am pretty sure it will do it automatically....but who knows when
[04:34:00] abarbaccia: SlicerDicer-, 0.17 is included with hoary, and when breezy comes out in october everything should work with 0.18.1
[04:34:00] abarbaccia: snowdude46, alright – sweet – i'm gonna do a little research
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[04:34:00] snowdude46: ok
[04:35:00] snowdude46: for the module im using
[04:35:00] snowdude46: lirc_i2c
[04:35:00] jonK_: and you havea hauppage card then?
[04:35:00] snowdude46: yeah
[04:35:00] snowdude46: the pvr-150
[04:35:00] bhursey: jonK no i just did /dev/lirc because it did not show an lirc0 in dev
[04:36:00] jonK_: i thought you said you had one with 0
[04:36:00] safecracker: abarbaccia 1st of all google has a complex algo and you getting indexed depends on your site 2nd ubuntu is great with 0.18 atleast it is over here
[04:36:00] bhursey: but i will try
[04:36:00] LostSole: jonK_: I had some issues that seem to be resolved with myth .18 (hoary is limited to .17)... there is a compile error in the ubuntu buglist for .18 at the moment... so just a little frustrated... I'll wait for Breezy with anticipation. :)
[04:36:00] jonK_: wait that was snowdude
[04:36:00] snowdude46: yeah that was me lol
[04:36:00] snowdude46: bhursey are you haveing lirc troubles?
[04:37:00] bhursey: I got the same thing im running lircd -n --device=/dev/lirc0 then in another window i try irw and it kills lircd
[04:37:00] bhursey: ya I have never goten it to work I have tried
[04:37:00] jonK_: tried it with both lirc and lirc0 then?
[04:37:00] bhursey: yes
[04:37:00] bhursey: dame thing
[04:37:00] bhursey: same
[04:37:00] jonK_: you changed the permissions on the device?
[04:37:00] safecracker: Lost how is hoary limited? 0.18.1 is on my hoary box
[04:37:00] jonK_: me too
[04:37:00] bhursey: one sec
[04:38:00] topping: rjune: have you ever seen "error: line 1: Unknown tag: %kmdl ..." when using rpmbuild?
[04:38:00] jonK_: and i had .17 installed from apt before moving to compiling from source
[04:38:00] bhursey: ya same thing
[04:38:00] safecracker: i did it from apt just off a debian repo
[04:38:00] bhursey: irw kills lircd
[04:38:00] jonK_: permissions for the device are?
[04:38:00] abarbaccia: safecracker, i'm assuing you compiled 0.18 because i tried backporting the packages which was a terrible idea/experience
[04:38:00] safecracker: read above
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[04:39:00] bhursey: permisons for /dev/lirc are 666
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[04:39:00] bhursey: ahhhhhhh
[04:40:00] bhursey: it was lircd
[04:40:00] bhursey: /dev/lircd in gentoo
[04:40:00] monsoon: argh Im still getting a black screen with noise sound. and HcwM...rom is loaded
[04:40:00] snowdude46: jonK : im still gettin gthe error lircd: no command found
[04:40:00] bhursey: but im not getting any input keys
[04:40:00] bhursey: hum
[04:41:00] bhursey: its waiting but im mashing buttions and im getting nithing
[04:41:00] bhursey: nothing
[04:41:00] jonK_: monsoon, you copied hcwm from the cd to /lib/moduels?
[04:41:00] jonK_: but irw is running? at least thats progress
[04:41:00] monsoon: jonK_, yes, and /var/log/messages shows that it is being loaded
[04:42:00] jonK_: post the modprobe set again withit loading
[04:42:00] bhursey: yes that is a big progress for me
[04:42:00] jonK_: bh, next is your lircd.conf file, where did you get it?
[04:42:00] monsoon: jonK_, if I run "irw" from console I get : connect: Connection refuesd
[04:42:00] jonK_: try root
[04:42:00] monsoon: as root
[04:42:00] jonK_: then you ahve nothing to connect to
[04:42:00] jonK_: lircd probably is not running
[04:42:00] jonK_: 1 thing at a time monsoon
[04:42:00] monsoon: ok, whats next?
[04:43:00] jonK_: getting a working 150 feed
[04:43:00] monsoon: ok, Ill post modprobe again
[04:45:00] monsoon: jonK_, http://pastebin.com/305017
[04:45:00] rjune: topping: yeah, it's something new for kernel modules
[04:46:00] topping: rjune: but it doesn't seem to be in FC4 i guess?
[04:46:00] bhursey: ok at least its recognizing this now I just got to get it to receave my input
[04:46:00] snowdude46: i just loaded the config file again
[04:46:00] rjune: topping: I've not looked
[04:46:00] topping: there are lirc binaries up, but they forgot lirc-devel
[04:46:00] topping: lol
[04:46:00] topping: hmm, ok thanks
[04:47:00] bhursey: I nedd to be studying biology haha
[04:47:00] bhursey: dam college biology
[04:47:00] jonK_: lines 21, 24, and 40
[04:47:00] jonK_: still evince a problem
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[04:48:00] bhursey: see yall tomarow
[04:48:00] snowdude46: bye
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[04:49:00] snowdude46: should i try uninstalling lirc then reinstalling it again?
[04:50:00] jonK_: monsoon, it still does not recognize the tuner type
[04:50:00] monsoon: jonK_, why?
[04:50:00] jonK_: where did you get the firmware
[04:50:00] monsoon: jonK_, HwM...etc.rom?
[04:51:00] jonK_: the ivtv_gw_enc.bin
[04:51:00] jonK_: and dec.bn
[04:51:00] snowdude46: are you talking to monsoon?
[04:51:00] jonK_: yes
[04:51:00] monsoon: that stuff was there when you told me to look for it
[04:51:00] monsoon: so I guess knoppmyth
[04:52:00] jonK_: try getting the *** version of the firmware from ivtv.sourceforge.net
[04:52:00] jonK_: and then start trying different versions of the modules
[04:52:00] monsoon: oh actually I did compile 0.3.6
[04:52:00] jonK_: im using 0.3.3k with a pvr 500
[04:52:00] monsoon: i dont know if that created those files?
[04:52:00] jonK_: monsoon, no
[04:52:00] jonK_: that's not
[04:53:00] jonK_: ivtv sourceforce net get the drivers and firmware page, one of the versions of firmware has a*** next to it
[04:54:00] jonK_: get the file and use ivtvfwextravt.pl from the ivtv/utils directory to extract it
[04:54:00] jonK_: anyone know why his tuner would be reporting as "-985514360"
[04:54:00] jonK_: for tuner type
[04:56:00] monsoon: did you mean to say go to ivtv at sourceforge to get the firmware?
[04:56:00] jonK_: yes
[04:56:00] monsoon: or hauppauge
[04:56:00] monsoon: ok
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[04:56:00] k-man_: hello
[04:56:00] monsoon: k found it getting it
[04:57:00] k-man_: anyone know a good (read cheap) place to buy dvb-t cards in Australia?
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[04:58:00] monsoon: jonK_, ok rmmod and modprobe again?
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[04:59:00] jonK_: yes
[05:00:00] jonK_: maybe even power off for a minute or too
[05:00:00] jonK_: then dmesg and check those lines to see if it found a tuner this thime
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[05:07:00] jonK_: anyone? itvt reporting tuner type = "-98554360"
[05:08:00] gnoob: I was thinking today I wondered if it would be a interesting idea for the MythTV people to sell a small, nice frontend box people could put in their living rooms. They could obviusly customize myth to work with it. It could probably somehow be a diskless client the user would be required to build the backend themselves.
[05:09:00] gnoob: for a reasonable price I think people would get it.
[05:09:00] monsoon: odd it started (after asking for pswd) setup again
[05:09:00] gnoob: extra way to make moeny.
[05:09:00] snowdude46: gnoob you mean like its ready to go out of the box?
[05:09:00] gnoob: snowdude46; basically
[05:10:00] snowdude46: yeah.....that would be a good idea
[05:10:00] gnoob: they get a little black box that fits in with their entertainmen system.
[05:10:00] snowdude46: yeah
[05:10:00] gnoob: or that's just an example
[05:10:00] snowdude46: why dont you make and sell them?
[05:10:00] gnoob: just plug it into the network.
[05:10:00] snowdude46: except...
[05:11:00] gnoob: i am not sure i have the knowledge to do it.
[05:11:00] snowdude46: for it to work well you would have to somehow get rid of the labz.zap2it stuff
[05:11:00] snowdude46: makeit more user friendly
[05:11:00] snowdude46: but by making it more user friendly i would think you would loose the benefits of having it
[05:11:00] gnoob: well, I am only thinking a front end the back end would be taking care of all that right?
[05:11:00] jonK_: there is such a thing, it's called tivo
[05:11:00] snowdude46: yeah
[05:11:00] jonK_: i have one, it's fantastic
[05:11:00] snowdude46: lol
[05:11:00] snowdude46: lol
[05:12:00] gnoob: jonK_; not exactly, I think this solution could be cheaper.
[05:12:00] jonK_: gnoob, that's funny .... you're talking about modern processors and indpendnt cards, and memory to comepte in price with a 50 mhz ppc and 16mb of memory
[05:12:00] Chutt: yes, small volume hardware is certainly cheaper than very high volume stuff
[05:12:00] gnoob: The user would have to have some linux knowledge or a leas a buddy willing ot set up the backend for them.
[05:13:00] jonK_: although i think my tivo is not exactly black
[05:13:00] jonK_: more of a dark dark brown box
[05:13:00] gnoob: jonK_; but the person would already have the backend maybe their main PC. With no hard drive and whatnot the cost would not be much.
[05:13:00] snowdude46: lol
[05:13:00] jonK_: entrepneur away!
[05:14:00] snowdude46: sounds like more complicated
[05:14:00] jonK_: if you think you really can, do it
[05:14:00] snowdude46: with having all these different back ends and stuff
[05:14:00] monsoon: :[ still no good
[05:14:00] jonK_: yes, running two programs hard
[05:14:00] gnoob: all the different back ends?
[05:14:00] jonK_: what happens monsoon?
[05:14:00] snowdude46: lol
[05:14:00] snowdude46: no but
[05:14:00] snowdude46: but you then need to have 2 computers to do it
[05:14:00] jonK_: no you dont
[05:15:00] monsoon: jonK_, same thing black screen noise... let me check messages
[05:15:00] gnoob: why two?
[05:15:00] snowdude46: one for the frontend
[05:15:00] snowdude46: and then another for the backend
[05:15:00] jonK_: what makes you think those programs HAVE to be ran on different computers?
[05:15:00] jonK_: for mythtv to work?
[05:15:00] snowdude46: they dont
[05:15:00] gnoob: ah, well yes basically what i suggested is a specialized computer for running myth.
[05:15:00] snowdude46: but that is what gnoob was saying
[05:15:00] gnoob: running myth as a frontend
[05:16:00] gnoob: the backend would be to complicated i think.
[05:16:00] gnoob: or to much money
[05:16:00] snowdude46: yeah money lo
[05:16:00] jonK_: tivo, dude tivo
[05:16:00] snowdude46: yeah
[05:16:00] snowdude46: just get a tivo lol
[05:16:00] jonK_: I started with mythtv to avoid the $13 a month charge
[05:16:00] jonK_: holy shit, 4 tuner cards, 2 hard drives and a second box later
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[05:17:00] snowdude46: lol
[05:17:00] jonK_: well, lets just say i could pay for the 13 dollar charge for 5 years or more
[05:17:00] monsoon: nothing that looks like an error in the messages jonK_
[05:17:00] jonK_: post it
[05:17:00] jonK_: tuner type= ???
[05:17:00] briand: jonK_: it's the principle of the thing.  ;)
[05:17:00] gnoob: mythTV can do more than TV also.
[05:17:00] gnoob: right, like weather and web surfing
[05:17:00] jonK_: so can you're tivo!
[05:17:00] jonK_: i have a webserver running on mine
[05:17:00] snowdude46: yeah tivos can get weather
[05:17:00] gnoob: and DVD and music
[05:17:00] snowdude46: lol
[05:18:00] GreyFoxx: there are a few places that sell prebuilt myth boxes
[05:18:00] snowdude46: didnt know you could run a webserver on a tivo
[05:18:00] gnoob: GreyFoxx; any links?
[05:18:00] GreyFoxx: but there just isn't a lot of money in it
[05:18:00] gnoob: hmm
[05:18:00] jonK_: I've thought of specing one out (thinking of building some for christmas gifts)
[05:18:00] GreyFoxx: gnoob: not offhand no. But anytime one sprouts up it's all over the -users mailing list
[05:18:00] jonK_: and then selling additional units on ebay
[05:18:00] gnoob: i am not on the mailing list.
[05:19:00] GreyFoxx: It's a busy list
[05:19:00] snowdude46: i think he was hinting for you to join :-p
[05:19:00] monsoon: jonK_, http://pastebin.com/305023
[05:19:00] gnoob: :)
[05:19:00] GreyFoxx: I don't actually read 90% of it.
[05:19:00] snowdude46: jonK; also with a Tivo it basically works right out of the box
[05:20:00] jonK_: still not getting a tuner type
[05:20:00] jonK_: anyone, what's the manual tuner type for a pvr150?
[05:20:00] snowdude46: where as mythtv......... i have been trying to set up for a while now
[05:21:00] monsoon: jonK_, I just found this http://www.bitbenderforums.com/~ralpha6/knopp . . . ppmythtv.htm I wonder how much of that applies to the pvr-150
[05:21:00] jonK_: monsoon, when you compiled the drivers, how did you install them?
[05:21:00] monsoon: make install
[05:21:00] jonK_: bah, why use somethign your grandma could install
[05:21:00] jonK_: ok, you may not be using the right tuner module
[05:22:00] jonK_: did you delete the old one?
[05:22:00] gnoob: yikes the place i just came up with using google says 799–999 for a back end. Seems like a lot.
[05:22:00] monsoon: umm which files? the ones in /lib/modules?
[05:22:00] snowdude46: i have an ati radeon 9600 ............... would you recommend i use the s-video out to go into my tv? or would you recommend a different vid card?
[05:23:00] snowdude46: wow gnoob that sure is a lot
[05:24:00] gnoob: yeah
[05:25:00] gnoob: one other place is the same price. That's why i figured frontend would be the way to go.
[05:25:00] gnoob: ah, oh well.
[05:26:00] snowdude46: lol
[05:27:00] snowdude46: they can of course make them for cheaper
[05:27:00] snowdude46: but they need to raise the price on them in order to make money
[05:28:00] gnoob: right
[05:28:00] jonK_: so if you happen to have a computer with a couple tv capture cards and a pile for free disk space (oh yea, that also runs linux) go ahead and come buy another small pos from us!
[05:28:00] snowdude46: lol haha
[05:28:00] snowdude46: yeah if i was going to spend a lot of money i would just buy a tivo
[05:28:00] snowdude46: but i have a spare computer sitting around
[05:29:00] SlicerDicer-: can anybody go to http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/ ?
[05:29:00] SlicerDicer-: its not letting me
[05:29:00] snowdude46: no i cant get there
[05:29:00] snowdude46: but with all these problems im having
[05:29:00] SlicerDicer-: thanks
[05:29:00] snowdude46: its driving me nutz
[05:29:00] gnoob: jonK_; sounds like he is not a big fan of this program.
[05:29:00] snowdude46: lol haha
[05:30:00] snowdude46: im just a noob to linux
[05:30:00] snowdude46: so i have no idea what im doing
[05:30:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[05:30:00] SlicerDicer-: good stuff
[05:31:00] SlicerDicer-: sourceforge is DOWN! for mantinence
[05:31:00] gnoob: anyone use knoppmyth or whatever it's called?
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[05:31:00] snowdude46: nope...
[05:31:00] gnoob: I downloaded a video where they used it to install mythTV. seemed to work easily for them.
[05:31:00] snowdude46: yeah
[05:31:00] snowdude46: Systm?
[05:31:00] gnoob: just wondering if it's usually that easy.
[05:31:00] gnoob: snowdude46; yup.
[05:31:00] snowdude46: lol
[05:31:00] snowdude46: yeah
[05:32:00] snowdude46: it was funny
[05:32:00] GreyFoxx: That's the reasons knoppmyth exists. to make setting it up that simple
[05:32:00] GreyFoxx: Never used it personally, but lots doo
[05:32:00] snowdude46: i wonder if the pvr-150 would work with it?
[05:32:00] snowdude46: i know it would work but without any problems
[05:32:00] GreyFoxx: *shrug* go read it's website
[05:33:00] gnoob: Ah, Interesting. So why does it seem so hard sometimes to get it working on other distrobutions. If knoppmych can make it that easy?
[05:33:00] jonK_: i think it was all a cgi animation
[05:33:00] jonK_: the screens were painted on
[05:33:00] snowdude46: lol haha
[05:33:00] jonK_: and the actors were on greenscreen
[05:33:00] snowdude46: haha
[05:33:00] GreyFoxx: gnoob: It's trivial to setup if you have a clue baout the system
[05:33:00] jonK_: that after 35 takes that failed
[05:33:00] jonK_: everything;s trivial once you know how to do it
[05:33:00] GreyFoxx: but it's specifically presetup to not require much knowledge from the user
[05:33:00] jonK_: that's really not much of an answer
[05:33:00] snowdude46: lol
[05:33:00] snowdude46: i wish it was trivial for me :-(
[05:33:00] gnoob: maybe, the hardware is the hard part to set up. On some systems.
[05:34:00] gnoob: that's not MythTv's fault.
[05:34:00] snowdude46: lol
[05:34:00] jonK_: performing open heart surgery is probably trival to some people
[05:34:00] snowdude46: its not mythtv im having troulbes with
[05:34:00] snowdude46: its the hardware over here....
[05:34:00] GreyFoxx: I've setup 18 myth boxes. Only problem I've really come across was a bad HD, and one system with bad ram
[05:34:00] snowdude46: wow
[05:34:00] gnoob: all for friends?
[05:34:00] snowdude46: with all the same compenent parts?
[05:34:00] GreyFoxx: friends/coworkers
[05:34:00] snowdude46: or all different parts?
[05:34:00] jonK_: once he hit's twenty, he gets a free subway sandwhich
[05:35:00] snowdude46: haha
[05:35:00] snowdude46: :-D
[05:35:00] GreyFoxx: snowdude46: no. They bring in the box/hrdware and I install the distro and myth
[05:35:00] snowdude46: nice
[05:35:00] snowdude46: what distro did you use?
[05:35:00] GreyFoxx: Only requirement is a pvr 250( last 2 had 150's)
[05:35:00] GreyFoxx: and if they want tv out a nvidia card.
[05:35:00] GreyFoxx: Slackware
[05:35:00] snowdude46: oh lol
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[05:36:00] snowdude46: maybe i hsould by the nvidia card...*shrugs*
[05:36:00] snowdude46: buy*
[05:36:00] GreyFoxx: I make them put together the hardware, except I'll shove in the pvr card as often it's still in the box :)
[05:36:00] gnoob: how much you charge for something like that or do you do it out of hte kindness of your heart?
[05:36:00] snowdude46: lol
[05:37:00] GreyFoxx: gnoob: I don't charge. Usually as long as they feed and entertain me while I'm there that's fine
[05:37:00] snowdude46: :-D
[05:37:00] snowdude46: do you compile it from source?
[05:37:00] GreyFoxx: The ones I've done for coworkers have been done on work time, so it's worth it hehe
[05:37:00] GreyFoxx: snowdude46: Of course, I detest packages
[05:37:00] snowdude46: lol
[05:37:00] gnoob: hmm, mythTV should have people that will charge peple to SSH into a box and set it up.
[05:37:00] jonK_: yes the ease, the conveinience
[05:37:00] SlicerDicer-: I cant get lirc to build support for my hauppauge and serial IR devices
[05:38:00] jonK_: it's detestable
[05:38:00] snowdude46: how much is one of those nvidia cards?
[05:38:00] jonK_: apt-get!?!? bah! i spit on thee
[05:38:00] jonK_: from hells heart, i stabbath the...
[05:38:00] jonK_: et cetra et cetra
[05:38:00] snowdude46: i have the radeon 9600 and alls i have is the s-video out
[05:39:00] snowdude46: why do you choose slackware over the other distro's?
[05:39:00] GreyFoxx: jonK_: I'm acontrol freak, I want everything my way, with my options, installed in my locations. And I sure as fsck don't trust some unknown person to have configured/compiled it in such a was as to work the way I want
[05:39:00] GreyFoxx: snowdude46: Cause "It just works"
[05:40:00] snowdude46: oh i see
[05:40:00] snowdude46: lol
[05:40:00] jonK_: let go greyfox, let in the love, trust
[05:40:00] jonK_: reach out to others...
[05:40:00] GreyFoxx: not in this lifetime :)
[05:41:00] gnoob: i run gentoo
[05:42:00] GreyFoxx: Though I should mention that after the first 2 or 3 installs I just made my own install cd and it takes an average of 4 minutes from first cd boot to booting up the newly installed systems. then it's a matter of setting ips and myth customizations for the most part
[05:42:00] gnoob: 4 min? YIKES!!!
[05:42:00] gnoob: that would be nice
[05:43:00] GreyFoxx: without the cd takes 1 to 2 hours(depending on the speed of the system) from start to finish with everything compiled, installed and runnin
[05:43:00] snowdude46: i guess it wouldnt be to hard with all the specific hardware in there allready
[05:43:00] snowdude46: actually i shouldnt be talking.......
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[05:45:00] gnoob: compiled from source 1–2 hours? I think my gentoo installs take longer than that and they are from source.
[05:45:00] seether38: hey guys
[05:45:00] snowdude46: hi
[05:45:00] gnoob: then again I could be wrong. It just take me a while to do the inbetween steps.
[05:45:00] GreyFoxx: are you compiling it, or are you using ebuilds and whever it feels like compiling in as well ?:)
[05:45:00] seether38: if i use my xbox from myth tv
[05:45:00] Rhapsody2: i ran the install for mythtv on fedora using yum, after i finally set it up, i couldn't believe how easy it was
[05:45:00] seether38: can i still oplaygames off it
[05:46:00] seether38: and use evox
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[05:46:00] gnoob: GreyFoxx; my most rescent two intalles were just with precompiled packages that after the system was running I recompiled from source with my settings.
[05:47:00] gnoob: i guess I am not sure how long it takes me but with my limited linux knowledge i know it's a one or two day project.
[05:48:00] gnoob: seether38; don't you get the choice on what to boot when you do that to your xbox. You pick to load the game or MythTV ro whatever?
[05:48:00] gnoob: i really don't know but i thought i have seen that from wherever i have seen it.
[05:49:00] seether38: thats what i want to know before i do that
[05:49:00] snowdude46: Greyfox do you recommend any nvidia cards out there?
[05:50:00] seether38: i havent installed it yet
[05:50:00] darkfire: snowdude46, 6800ultra
[05:50:00] GreyFoxx: snowdude46: not particularly
[05:50:00] seether38: gnoob
[05:50:00] gnoob: ?
[05:51:00] gnoob: ah
[05:51:00] seether38: what im trying to find out
[05:51:00] GreyFoxx: most of the ones I've dealt with have been mx440's or fx5200
[05:51:00] gnoob: well i don't know for sure, i just thought i have seen that
[05:51:00] snowdude46: ok thanks
[05:51:00] darkfire: you should
[05:51:00] seether38: is will i still be able to run evox
[05:51:00] darkfire: you can set it up to where you choose to boot linux or a game
[05:51:00] seether38: and play games off my hd
[05:52:00] seether38: not games off a cd
[05:52:00] seether38: dvd i mean
[05:52:00] snowdude46: sorry darkfire i was looking for more of a cheap graphix card just for mythtv
[05:52:00] ** gnoob is eating icecream that has sponge bob squarpants on the container. **
[05:52:00] seether38: you can use ur cable box
[05:52:00] seether38: snowdude
[05:52:00] seether38: if it has a firewire port
[05:52:00] snowdude46: what?
[05:53:00] snowdude46: and guess what?
[05:53:00] seether38: urs doesnt huh
[05:53:00] snowdude46: nope
[05:53:00] snowdude46: its actually DirecTv
[05:53:00] snowdude46: to make it more complicated
[05:53:00] seether38: Oh thats y
[05:53:00] seether38: i have time warner
[05:54:00] darkfire: snowdude46, lirc blaster then?
[05:54:00] seether38: m/birghthouse/roadrunner
[05:54:00] slePP: anyone using a Radeon 9250SE for TV out?
[05:54:00] snowdude46: what darkfire?
[05:54:00] darkfire: to change the channels on your direct tv box
[05:54:00] snowdude46: lol
[05:54:00] snowdude46: if i could get it to work then sure
[05:55:00] darkfire: you can get an IR blaster, and have mythtv do it
[05:55:00] snowdude46: lol
[05:55:00] darkfire: heh, it's all theory to me, never had to mess with ot
[05:55:00] snowdude46: i allready have the ir blaster
[05:55:00] snowdude46: just something messed up
[05:55:00] snowdude46: and now its screwed
[05:57:00] snowdude46: would any of you have the slightest idea of getting the s-video out on a radeon ati 9600 to work?
[05:57:00] seether38: hey
[05:58:00] snowdude46: hi
[05:58:00] seether38: to have mythtv on a xbox
[05:58:00] seether38: does it have to be a frontend
[05:58:00] snowdude46: i would think so
[05:58:00] seether38: or can it be the main
[05:58:00] seether38: thing
[05:58:00] snowdude46: i have no idea
[05:59:00] seether38: gnoob do u know
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[06:06:00] gnoob: seether38; not really sure. I guess would be yes. But i really don't know.
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[06:09:00] defaultro: evening everyone
[06:09:00] defaultro: anyone here uses mythstream> :)
[06:11:00] Agrajag-: i try to
[06:11:00] Agrajag-: dont get any sound
[06:11:00] defaultro: same here
[06:12:00] defaultro: i posted it earlier but no response
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[06:14:00] defaultro: Agrajag, what is the syntax if we want to use ALSA:digital in mplayer?
[06:14:00] mchou: does streamtuner work ok for you guys?
[06:14:00] hadeees: has anyone tried using xul in mythbrowser?
[06:14:00] mchou: or I should say StreamTuned*
[06:15:00] defaultro: streamtuned
[06:15:00] defaultro: i haven't tried it yet
[06:15:00] hadeees: whats streamtuned?
[06:15:00] mchou: lol, make sure that's working 1st.
[06:15:00] mchou: kids.
[06:15:00] defaultro: :D
[06:18:00] monsoon: this is really weird everytime I reboot setup asks for a root passwd again, and then restarts setup...
[06:18:00] monsoon: at least this time my settings are saved
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[06:21:00] monsoon: i know someone is using a pvr-150...
[06:21:00] monsoon: how did you get it working
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[06:22:00] seether38: has anyone tried using a pc
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[06:22:00] seether38: i mean
[06:23:00] seether38: a cable box
[06:23:00] seether38: with firewire
[06:23:00] seether38: instead of the tuner
[06:23:00] seether38: you know the tuner card
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[06:25:00] seether38: can i use it as a slip linux/windows box
[06:25:00] seether38: can i use it as that
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[06:26:00] k-man_: can anyone here recommend a good dvb-t card for Australia? and were i can get it from in Australia?
[06:32:00] Agrajag-: haven't you asked this before?
[06:32:00]
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[06:33:00] monsoon: uggh
[06:34:00] monsoon: i need help please
[06:34:00] monsoon: Ive been trying to get my pvr-150 working all day
[06:34:00] monsoon: all I get is noise
[06:34:00] mchou: try plugging the cable?
[06:34:00] monsoon: the cable is in... its coming out of vhs
[06:34:00] monsoon: which is playing
[06:35:00] mchou: ivtvctl is your friend.
[06:35:00] mchou: and read the docs.
[06:35:00] monsoon: i have been... all day
[06:35:00] mchou: you are not being very specific in your problem description either.
[06:36:00] monsoon: thats the problem Im getting... when I try cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg
[06:36:00] monsoon: and try viewing it
[06:36:00] mchou: then read the ivtvctl --help.
[06:37:00] mchou: or whatever the commandline parameters are.
[06:37:00] mchou: all this stuff is thoroughly documented.
[06:38:00] monsoon: yes mchou then show me the documentation on how to get pvr-150 working... if there is that documentaion, I havent found it
[06:38:00] mchou: wtf.
[06:38:00] mchou: I just told you.
[06:38:00] monsoon: really??? when
[06:38:00] monsoon: !
[06:39:00] Agrajag-: haha
[06:39:00] mchou: [21:36:49] <mchou> then read the ivtvctl --help.
[06:39:00] monsoon: ohhh so Im supposed to understand from that, that the pvr-150 documentation on setting it up is in ivtvctl --help?
[06:39:00] monsoon: guess what its not
[06:40:00] mchou: monsoon: you being daft?
[06:40:00] monsoon: no I just dont think you understand that Ive been trying to get this working for about 10 hours... so simple things like read the ivtvctl help I have already done
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[06:41:00] mchou: right, ok. I must be mistaken then. I just have 2x 150's
[06:41:00] mchou: it wasn't rocket science.
[06:41:00] monsoon: then could you please help me
[06:42:00] mchou: no.
[06:42:00] monsoon: why not?
[06:42:00] mchou: I dont need your grief.
[06:42:00] monsoon: you were the one who told me yesterday about the pvr-150, so I went out and bought it... but whatever I guess
[06:43:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc, you around?
[06:44:00] mchou: #1 you didnt tell me exactly what you read. nor did you tell anyone what you've atte,pted.
[06:44:00] mchou: attempted.*
[06:44:00] mchou: htf is anyone supposed to help you??
[06:44:00] monsoon: I have told people actually
[06:44:00] monsoon: i dont know how long youve been in here
[06:44:00] monsoon: maybe you missed it
[06:45:00] kormoc: hihi SlicerDicer-
[06:45:00] SlicerDicer-: monsoon, repeating is key when getting help from multiple people
[06:45:00] mchou: sure I might have missed it.
[06:45:00] SlicerDicer-: no matter how much explaining it takes :)
[06:45:00] mchou: but it's not exactly my problem.
[06:45:00] monsoon: Ive attempted many things including following http://www.bitbenderforums.com/~ralpha6/knopp . . . ppmythtv.htm
[06:45:00] ** slePP needs to figure out why this radeon is acting kind of weird with tv out.. **
[06:46:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc, I just emerge lirc... Well I am following the howto on gentoo-wiki I have a issue with it showing up the /dev/ stuff
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[06:46:00] slePP: it's .. slow, or ghosting, or something.. it doesn't quite clear the frame before the present frame.. but it's not interlacing
[06:46:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc, should I be using udev?
[06:46:00] mchou: monsoon: wtf. That has nothing to do with the card working or not.
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[06:46:00] kormoc: yuppies
[06:47:00] ** SlicerDicer- snickers **
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[06:48:00] monsoon: mchou, you said it wasnt very difficult to get workikng, are there a few steps I could follow?
[06:49:00] SlicerDicer-: monsoon, google + ivtv pvr-150 howto perhaps?
[06:49:00] monsoon: SlicerDicer-, yes I have ... many many times
[06:50:00] SlicerDicer-: the first one I pulled up is related to debian but it looks pretty self explanitory I mean honestly
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[06:50:00] monsoon: really Id be surprised
[06:51:00] linagee: mmm... snickers
[06:51:00] SlicerDicer-: chomp chomp
[06:52:00] SlicerDicer-: monsoon, http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-searchindex.php?h . . . mp;search=go give that a go once you have read them all then maybe you can get it working....
[06:54:00] hadeees: is mythbrowser based on firefox?
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[06:55:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc, you use lirc correct?
[06:55:00] kormoc: nope
[06:55:00] SlicerDicer-: what is wrong with you :P
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[06:57:00] SlicerDicer-: I am trying to figure yout why I cant get lirc to compile the modules for my serial irblaster and the hauppauge remote
[06:57:00] monsoon: i thought you found something that was for debian
[06:58:00] opopanax_gentoo: firewire is torquin me off.
[06:58:00] SlicerDicer-: monsoon, its in that wiki just prod around I aint going to do all the work for ya
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[06:58:00] monsoon: or none that is
[06:58:00] k-man_: Agrajag-, yeah
[06:58:00] monsoon: at all
[06:59:00] k-man_: Agrajag-, i have asked before, but i can't seem to find a supplier of the twinhain which i was aiming for
[06:59:00] k-man_: at least, not a cheap supplier
[06:59:00] Christopher: is it mythtv or ivtv problem when I can tune in channel 33 okay, but channel 6 looks like crap?
[06:59:00] k-man_: Agrajag-, didn't you say you got it for like $110?
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[07:00:00] Agrajag-: yeah $105
[07:00:00] k-man_: Agrajag-, can you give me your suppliers name?
[07:00:00] k-man_: please :)
[07:00:00] Agrajag-: msy
[07:00:00] Agrajag-: they don't do deliveries
[07:01:00] k-man_: oh crap man
[07:01:00] k-man_: seriously?
[07:01:00] mchou: Agrajag- got if off a truck in a back alley :)
[07:01:00] ** rjune is away: sleeping **
[07:01:00] k-man_: msy? where are they?
[07:01:00] k-man_: url?
[07:01:00] Agrajag-: www.msy.com.au
[07:01:00] Agrajag-: they have a really nice site
[07:01:00] k-man_: yeah
[07:01:00] k-man_: nice
[07:01:00] Agrajag-: lol
[07:01:00] k-man_: not
[07:02:00] k-man_: oh... and you have to be a member to get a good price or something
[07:02:00] mchou: you got some real fly by night operations in oland.
[07:02:00] mchou: ozland*
[07:03:00] Agrajag-: nah the normal prices are still cheap as
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[07:03:00] Agrajag-: i went to the auburn branch at 11:30am last saturday morning
[07:03:00] Agrajag-: i waited in a queue for 1 1/2 hours
[07:03:00] fryfrog: defaultro: hey, can you see my talkin in #linux?
[07:03:00] Agrajag-: the line went from the fron tof the shop to the back of the shop and around the corner
[07:03:00] mchou: Agrajag-: huh???
[07:04:00] Agrajag-: it's a crazy little computer store
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[07:04:00] Agrajag-: with prices below what normal retail shops even get it from their distributers for
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[07:05:00] mchou: lol, it is a truck in the back alley.
[07:05:00] Agrajag-: all i was buying was a crap video card and 250gb hdd.. had to wait nearly 2 hours
[07:05:00] Agrajag-: in a queue
[07:05:00] Agrajag-: pretty much :P
[07:05:00] Agrajag-: well it all seems legit. i guess they import loads of stuff from china or something
[07:05:00] Agrajag-: i've got a bunch of stuff from them and never had problems
[07:08:00] k-man_: oh
[07:08:00] k-man_: can you go and buy me 2 dvb-t cards from them please?
[07:08:00] k-man_: i'm not sure i have the patience to navigate their site
[07:09:00] kormoc: anyone know the website for mythsteam?
[07:11:00] Agrajag-: k-man_: http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf
[07:11:00] Agrajag-: that's all you need
[07:11:00] Agrajag-: whereabouts in australia are you?
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[07:12:00] k-man_: sydney
[07:12:00] k-man_: you?
[07:12:00] k-man_: in Alexandria
[07:13:00] Agrajag-: yeah im in chatswood
[07:13:00] Agrajag-: im a good 45 minutes from auburn :P
[07:13:00] Agrajag-: and i dont plan on going there again soon
[07:13:00] k-man_: oh well
[07:13:00] k-man_: it was worth a shot ;)
[07:13:00] Agrajag-: and if i do.. it'll probably be a weekday. not saturday
[07:13:00] k-man_: yeah
[07:13:00] k-man_: is that bad?
[07:13:00] k-man_: are they only open on sat or something?
[07:14:00] Agrajag-: well they open at 9:30 – and by then apparently there's already a queue
[07:14:00] Agrajag-: yeah not sunday
[07:14:00] Agrajag-: so if you get there a bit before 9:30 and are first in line it'd probably be ok
[07:14:00] k-man_: oh... how much does it cost to become a member?
[07:14:00] k-man_: on a week day?
[07:14:00] Agrajag-: you gotta spend over $200 or something
[07:14:00] Agrajag-: nah on saturday.. week days i reckon you'd be fine, dont think there'd eb a queue
[07:15:00] Agrajag-: the member prices aren't different for most things
[07:15:00] k-man_: oh
[07:15:00] k-man_: oh really?
[07:15:00] k-man_: interesting
[07:15:00] k-man_: which things are different?
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[07:15:00] Agrajag-: yeah.. only the more expensive things i think, like printers and stuff
[07:18:00] monsoon: mchou, which version of ivtv are you using with the pvr150?
[07:19:00] Christopher: I have the pvr-500 which lspci shows as two pvr-150s
[07:19:00] k-man_: oh
[07:19:00] mchou: 0.3.4-x
[07:19:00] k-man_: Agrajag-, um... there seems to be two products on that pdf
[07:19:00] k-man_: how do i tell which one i want?
[07:19:00] monsoon: Christopher, my pvr150 just shows noise
[07:20:00] k-man_: there is the TwinHan DTV Mini ter
[07:20:00] Christopher: I'm using the ivtv .3.6r drivers.
[07:20:00] k-man_: and the Vision Plus DTV tuner
[07:20:00] monsoon: hrmm Im trying with .3.6s
[07:20:00] Christopher: I'm also using the firmware from the CD.
[07:20:00] k-man_: i mean the vision plus vision dtv
[07:21:00] Agrajag-: yeah.. they're different cards
[07:21:00] monsoon: Christopher, the one file yes?
[07:21:00] k-man_: Agrajag-, how do i tell which is which? any idea?
[07:21:00] k-man_: Agrajag-, and which should i get for use with mythtv?\
[07:21:00] Agrajag-: what do you mean which is which? they've got names
[07:22:00] Agrajag-: i use the visionplus
[07:23:00] Christopher: monsoon: I copied HcwFalcn.rom from the cd to /lib/modules and symlinked it like this. ivtv-fw-enc.bin -> HcwFalcn.rom
[07:23:00] k-man_: Agrajag-, as far as i can tell, the visionplus is maid by twinhan
[07:23:00] k-man_: isn't it?
[07:24:00] k-man_: oh
[07:24:00] k-man_: maybe not
[07:24:00] k-man_: standby, more searching in progress
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[07:25:00] monsoon: Christopher, what about the other ivtv file in /lib/modules?
[07:25:00] Agrajag-: yeah k-man_ it is
[07:25:00] k-man_: Agrajag-, so i want the visionplus one on their price list? not the twinhan one?
[07:26:00] Agrajag-: im not sure.. i use the visionplus, it works fine for me
[07:26:00] k-man_: ok
[07:26:00] k-man_: thanks
[07:26:00] Agrajag-: dont know if the other has any benefits/negatives
[07:26:00] k-man_: ok
[07:29:00] Christopher: monsoon: remove tuner.ko and tda9887.ko from /lib/modules/kernel/driver/media/video and remove the contents of /lib/modules/kernel/extras and if you're installing fresh... also delete /root/.ivtvrc and delete /lib/modules/kernel/ivtv/* so that you can make install the ivtv source and have it place everything where it's supposed to.
[07:30:00] Christopher: monsoon: then, in your /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-26 you need to not only add ivtv, but also tda9887. Is your kernel setup right? M for V4L and M for most I2C support?
[07:30:00] monsoon: Christopher, Im using knoppmyth's kernel
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[07:31:00] Christopher: monsoon: I'm using gentoo.
[07:31:00] TimmyJ: has anyone gotten a pvr-150 up and running and an FC4 box?
[07:31:00] TimmyJ: or any pvr-*50 for that matter
[07:33:00] monsoon: Christopher, I dont have a tda9887 or a tuner.ko in there, but I do have a tuner-3036.ko and a few tdaXXXX.ko
[07:35:00] Christopher: monsoon: that means your kernel is built for the tuner3036 whatever that is and for a few other incorrect tdaxxxx devices. You should make menuconfig and goto v4l and lemme know what modules are built in.
[07:35:00] Christopher: mosoon: lsmod
[07:36:00] monsoon: lsmod for which modules?
[07:38:00] Christopher: monsoon: lsmod for this needs to show. wm8775, cx25840, tuner tveeprom ivtv i2c_algo_bit videodev msp3400 tda9887 and i2c_core
[07:41:00] monsoon: Christopher, it seems the only one not loaded is tda9887
[07:41:00] Christopher: monsoon: you need to have that tda9887 loaded. It's the tuner.
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[07:42:00] monsoon: but I just loaded it
[07:42:00] Christopher: monsoon: then do perl ptune.pl 33
[07:42:00] Christopher: monsoon: then do cat /dev/video0 > test.mpeg
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[07:42:00] Christopher: monsoon: then CTRL-C and watch the video.
[07:42:00] monsoon: Christopher, I dont have ptune
[07:42:00] monsoon: do I need to get it and compile it?
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[07:44:00] Christopher: monsoon: goto /ivtv-0.3.6r/utils and do make && make install
[07:44:00] Christopher: monsoon: ptune.pl is in your ivtv source directory /utils
[07:44:00] monsoon: i have made utils
[07:45:00] monsoon: nm I guess I didnt
[07:47:00] monsoon: Christopher, hrmm still getting only noise
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[07:49:00] Jouster: Greetings!
[07:49:00] Jouster: Anyone still awake tonight?
[07:49:00] Jouster: (And/or in a country for which my "tonight" doesn't apply?)
[07:49:00] Agrajag-: im still awake at 3:45pm
[07:50:00] Christopher: monsoon: after you get those modules all right you need to cold boot your computer completely... when it reboots... post your init.ivtv from dmesg.
[07:50:00] monsoon: ok can do
[07:51:00] Jouster: Is there a "standard idiotlink" for those asking about coldplug and USB<->RCA/TV adapters?
[07:52:00] Agrajag-: err i wouldn't think such a thing exists
[07:52:00] Jouster: The "standard idiotlink"?
[07:52:00] Jouster: Or the adapter?
[07:52:00] Agrajag-: both
[07:52:00] monsoon: Christopher, so you only have one ivtv-... in /lib/modules/ ? the one you symlinked?
[07:53:00] Jouster: The adapter, in my case, is a Plextor ConvertX unit.
[07:53:00] Christopher: monsoon: I have a /lib/modules/kernel/ivtv
[07:53:00] Christopher: and I have a /lib/modules.d/ivtv
[07:53:00] Jouster: It works wonderfully, so long as a remove and then reinsert the USB connector after it has booted.
[07:53:00] Jouster: s/as a remove/as I remove/;
[07:54:00] Agrajag-: oh ok.. no idea then
[07:56:00] monsoon: Christopher, hrmm I still had to modprobe tda9887
[07:56:00] Christopher: monsoon: goto /etc/modules.d/ivtv and read me what you have.
[07:57:00] Christopher: monsoon: It needs to at least show alias char-major-81 videodev & alias char-major-81–0 ivtv & alias char-major-81–1 ivtv.
[07:58:00] monsoon: well it seems something is different, instead of noise I now just get a red screen
[07:58:00] Christopher: monsoon: you need to have /etc/modules.d/ivtv correct. and you need to have /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-26 not only load ivtv but also tda9887.
[07:59:00] monsoon: ok mine are a bit different since knoppmyth is debian
[08:01:00] Christopher: monsoon: is it /etc/modules/alias ?
[08:02:00] monsoon: i think the alias's are in /etc/modutils/ivtv
[08:02:00] Christopher: monsoon: what's your /etc/modutils/ivtv say?
[08:03:00] monsoon: alias char-major-81 videodev
[08:04:00] monsoon: and alias char-major-81 -0 ivtv
[08:05:00] Christopher: monsoon: now where do you specify what modules to load at boot time...? like your nvidia modules or your ivtv module? cause that's where you'll probably also have to add the tda9887... make sure that you add it before ivtv.
[08:06:00] monsoon: weird theres stuff everywhere... theres also a /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[08:07:00] Christopher: monsoon: read your alias's file... it will probably tell you which one that you really should be modifying.
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[08:08:00] SlicerDicer-: anybody here familar with how to do irblaster and hauppauge remote both? I got my hauppauge remote working now I want mythtv to control the cablebox
[08:08:00] ** SlicerDicer- snickers **
[08:09:00] monsoon: hmm there is already a "alias char-major-81 videodev in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[08:09:00] Christopher: monsoon: you must indicate alias char-major-81–0 as ivtv then.
[08:10:00] monsoon: Christopher, its odd because Ive read some howtos for debian and ivtv and they say /etc/modutils/ivtv
[08:11:00] monsoon: should I remove the one file and just put it all in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[08:12:00] Christopher: monsoon: I don't know about your distribution... but my distribution (gentoo) has a similar /etc/modules.d/aliases file... in that file it says not to edit it manually.. but to instead create the ivtv file in that directory. and put the video code lines in it.
[08:12:00] Christopher: so you could create /etc/modutils/ivtv
[08:12:00] Christopher: what are the other files in your /etc/modprobe.d/ ?
[08:13:00] monsoon: aliases, alsa-base, crypto
[08:13:00] monsoon: Ill just put it in /etc/modutils/ivtv
[08:13:00] monsoon: thats where two howto's put them
[08:13:00] monsoon: ok so I have those two lines now
[08:13:00] monsoon: whats next?
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[08:14:00] Christopher: monsoon: is alsa only in /etc/modprobe.d/ or is alsa also in /etc/modutils/ ?
[08:14:00] monsoon: Christopher, its in both
[08:14:00] monsoon: alsa-base is
[08:15:00] Christopher: monsoon: well in the aliases file... what's already pointing to char-major-81???
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[08:15:00] monsoon: videodev is Christopher
[08:16:00] Christopher: monsoon: then you don't need to say alias char-major-81 videodev again. You'll only need to add alias char-major-81–0 ivtv
[08:17:00] monsoon: ok can do
[08:17:00] Christopher: I also am using "options ivtv ivtv_std=0,0 tuner=57,57 tda9887=0,0" in mine... but It's probably not correct anyway and I'm still having trouble with it... but once you have your modules setup right... then you can show your init.ivtv from the dmesg.
[08:18:00] Christopher: you'll have to do the coldboot again.
[08:19:00] SlicerDicer-: can anybody help me get lirc working I need to get support for 2 different modules
[08:19:00] ** slePP has a -350 and two -150s in a box happily... **
[08:19:00] SlicerDicer-: serial and i2c
[08:19:00] slePP: SlicerDicer-: which distro?
[08:19:00] SlicerDicer-: gentoo
[08:20:00] SlicerDicer-: I tried configure options --with-driver=any
[08:20:00] SlicerDicer-: but that did not work :/
[08:20:00] slePP: hmm
[08:20:00] ** slePP tries to remember how he did it on gentoo **
[08:21:00] ** slePP can't remember if he did it from source or not... i think i did **
[08:21:00] slePP: but --with-driver=any didn't compile those modules for lirc?
[08:21:00] SlicerDicer-: nope
[08:21:00] SlicerDicer-: it only compiled the serial module
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[08:21:00] slePP: you set LIRC_OPTS="--with-driver=any" ?
[08:21:00] SlicerDicer-: yep
[08:22:00] slePP: yeh, this makes me think i compiled it from source...
[08:22:00] SlicerDicer-: Your hardware does not require a kernel module.
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[08:22:00] slePP: took me about 3 hours to figure out :>
[08:22:00] SlicerDicer-: thats what It does when I run that
[08:22:00] slePP: how about --with-driver=all..?
[08:22:00] SlicerDicer-: well gentoo is compiling it from source
[08:22:00] slePP: i know gentoo is. i used to use gentoo on my myth box (all 3) as well
[08:22:00] slePP: but i did it by hand, without the ebuild
[08:22:00] SlicerDicer-: trying
[08:22:00] SlicerDicer-: all
[08:23:00] SlicerDicer-: configure: error: *** it is not possible to install the specified driver
[08:23:00] SlicerDicer-: on this system
[08:23:00] ** slePP consolidated all 3 myth boxes into one this weekend, though.. so i can't check my configs **
[08:23:00] slePP: how about --with-driver=serial,hauppauge ?
[08:23:00] SlicerDicer-: tryin
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[08:24:00] SlicerDicer-: nope
[08:24:00] slePP: and did you try without any LIRC_OPTS set?
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[08:25:00] Christopher: monsoon: My computer froze up and I had to reboot. What's yours doin?
[08:25:00] SlicerDicer-: yep
[08:25:00] monsoon: Christopher, about to mplay the test.mpg
[08:26:00] slePP: SlicerDicer-: heh. ok, then. just untar it and compile it yourself :>
[08:26:00] monsoon: nooo... just a red screen
[08:26:00] slePP: i think what i did, was emerged lirc.. then compiled it again with the right drivers
[08:26:00] slePP: and installed overtop
[08:27:00] Christopher: monsoon: what was your init.ivtv from the dmesg output?
[08:29:00] monsoon: Christopher, its here: http://pastebin.com/305051
[08:29:00] SlicerDicer-: slePP, it says I dont need kernel modules with my setup
[08:29:00] SlicerDicer-: wtf....
[08:29:00] SlicerDicer-: shit I am a moron I downloaded the source on the wrong computer lol
[08:29:00] ** slePP points monsoon towards pastebin.ca as shameless promotion **
[08:29:00] slePP: SlicerDicer-: heh
[08:29:00] ** SlicerDicer- slaps himself **
[08:30:00] Christopher: monsoon: the pci latency it's bitching about can be changed in the bios to 64 from 32.
[08:30:00] ** slePP 's bios doesn't allow latency changes **
[08:30:00] monsoon: ah ok Christopher would that be causing my problem though?
[08:31:00] monsoon: i guess I need to try another version of ivtv?
[08:32:00] Christopher: monsoon: line 20. ivtv: Tuner Type -618570104
[08:33:00] Christopher: monsoon: that's the problem.
[08:33:00] Christopher: I'm looking more closely.
[08:33:00] monsoon: ohh
[08:33:00] SlicerDicer-: slePP, well shit
[08:33:00] Christopher: monsoon: and line 17. tveeprom: tuner = <unknown> (idx = 99, type = -618570104)
[08:33:00] SlicerDicer-: I have tried all kinda stuff straight from source but bleh
[08:34:00] slePP: hmm
[08:34:00] ** slePP starts trying **
[08:35:00] slePP: ./configure is bringing up the interactive config?
[08:35:00] Christopher: monsoon: more specifically line 45. tuner: tuner type not set
[08:35:00] monsoon: Christopher, any idea how to set it? :)
[08:38:00] SlicerDicer-: yeah slePP
[08:38:00] slePP: SlicerDicer-: i think i did this. i compiled it with serial. then i recompiled it with hauppauge
[08:38:00] slePP: and copied both modules over
[08:38:00] SlicerDicer-: well you can manually compile each module
[08:38:00] SlicerDicer-: just cd /driver/foo_driver
[08:38:00] Christopher: monsoon: try loading the tveeprom module before you load the ivtv module and then coldboot and copy the init.ivtv again. It will hopefully be different.
[08:40:00] monsoon: Christopher, ok, should I rmmod ivtv and tveeprom right now, and then load tveeprom and then ivtv? will reboot know what to do?
[08:41:00] Christopher: monsoon: which file loads the ivtv driver at boot time? In that file, add the tveeprom module before the ivtv module.
[08:42:00] SlicerDicer-: slePP, how annoying
[08:42:00] slePP: yeh...
[08:42:00] slePP: i never figured out why it's like that, since it can obviously take more than one
[08:43:00] ** slePP yays... only 45 more minutes till i can go put this 200g SATA into the myth box **
[08:43:00] SlicerDicer-: BWA HA HA HA!!!
[08:44:00] SlicerDicer-: I got both module
[08:44:00] SlicerDicer-: sorry :P
[08:44:00] slePP: yay :>
[08:44:00] slePP: by hackery or some unknown config options?
[08:45:00] SlicerDicer-: kludgery
[08:45:00] SlicerDicer-: ran make after compiling it for serial
[08:45:00] ** slePP noticed you could modify the Makefile in the drivers/ dir to set the subdirs to build **
[08:45:00] slePP: you may want to watch that the lircd it made works with more than one driver
[08:45:00] slePP: it seems to behave differently with --with-driver=any than --with-driver=serial
[08:45:00] SlicerDicer-: then went to driver/lirc_i2c and did make
[08:45:00] slePP: peeking at the configure script
[08:46:00] SlicerDicer-: then make install
[08:46:00] SlicerDicer-: yeah
[08:46:00] SlicerDicer-: my way should work
[08:46:00] SlicerDicer-: hopefully
[08:46:00] SlicerDicer-: I am kludging the hell out of it though
[08:49:00] ** slePP wonders which table to look into for recording schedules... **
[08:49:00] mchou: Christopher: you're screwing monsoon all up. He doesn need tda9887
[08:49:00] mchou: doesnt*
[08:50:00] mchou: and most likely he is using an old tuner module.
[08:50:00] Christopher: mchou You're right. He has another one.
[08:50:00] Christopher: mchou: He's using .3.6s
[08:50:00] Christopher: mchou: with the 5032 firmware.
[08:50:00] slePP: SlicerDicer-: did mythtv 0.18.1 compile for you on gentoo?
[08:51:00] mchou: Christopher: all he has to do is use the newer tuner module and he is all set.
[08:51:00] monsoon: im using the one that has the *** next to it let me find the version
[08:52:00] mchou: and he might not even have to reboot.
[08:52:00] Christopher: mchou: how do I fix mine...? I can't tune in channels 2–20 clearly... I have to look at channels over 20.
[08:52:00] SlicerDicer-: slePP, of course
[08:52:00] mchou: Christopher: I dont have 500. sorry. Cant help you there.
[08:52:00] slePP: ../../libs/libavcodec/libmythavcodec-0.18.1.so: undefined reference to `postProcess_C'
[08:52:00] slePP: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[08:54:00] ** slePP also hasn't figured out how to make mythtv on fc3 use alsa **
[08:55:00] slePP: i think it may be because fc3 isn't making the alsa nodes
[08:55:00] monsoon: mchou, Im using pvr48wdm 1.8.22037 is that right?
[08:56:00] mchou: monsoon: beats me.
[08:56:00] mchou: I said tuner module, not firmware.
[08:56:00] monsoon: ohh... hmm which is the tuner module?
[08:56:00] mchou: use whichever firmeare is recommended for 150
[08:56:00] mchou: firmware.
[08:57:00] mchou: monsoon: have you read any documentation AT ALL?
[08:57:00] monsoon: I have read some yes.
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[08:58:00] monsoon: as much as I could find that I thought had anything to do with the pvr 150
[08:58:00] mchou: well, whatever you read aint right cause you're asking stuff that's covered in them.
[08:58:00] monsoon: could you recommend one ?
[08:59:00] SlicerDicer-: slePP, you still here?
[09:00:00] mchou: look in google. and the ivtv docs README and INSTALL tells all.
[09:00:00] Christopher: monsson: you could checkout the #ivtv-dev channel in the AM when there are people online. :)
[09:01:00] mchou: monsoon: do this as root: find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name tuner*
[09:03:00] monsoon: mchou, it returned: ...ivtv/tuner.ko, ...kernel/drivers/media/video/tuner-3036.ko, and .../v412/tuner.ko
[09:04:00] mchou: monsoon: now do "modinfo tuner" and give me it PATH that it returns.
[09:04:00] mchou: or filename
[09:05:00] monsoon: filename: /lib/modules/2.6.11.9/v412/tuner.ko is that the problem?
[09:05:00] mchou: take a wild ass guess.
[09:06:00] mchou: which tuner module you think ought to be loaded?
[09:06:00] monsoon: yes, but oddly I already had mved that tuner.ko to tuner.ko.orig ... somehow it replaced it
[09:06:00] monsoon: the ivtv/tuner.ko
[09:06:00] mchou: bravo.
[09:06:00] mchou: fix it.
[09:07:00] monsoon: will removing the v412/tuner.ko be enough? because thats what i tried before
[09:07:00] mchou: just rename it to something else.
[09:08:00] monsoon: hmm no I guess not, since now it looks for that tuner.ko and doesnt find it
[09:08:00] mchou: this obviously wont work if you run this off livecd.
[09:08:00] monsoon: no its not live
[09:09:00] monsoon: im guessing I need to compile and reinstall it again, since it cant find the ivtv/tuner.ko
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[09:10:00] mchou: how can you not find it? You just issued the command that found it.
[09:11:00] mchou: if you got a self modifying file system you got bigger issues.
[09:11:00] monsoon: right but if I try modprobe tuner, it says it cant find the one that was in v412/ and if I try modprob /lib/modules/2.6x/ivtv/tuner.ko it says it cant find it
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[09:11:00] mchou: sigh....
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[09:12:00] SlicerDicer-: hey mchou do you use a irblaster?
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[09:13:00] mchou: mv .../v412/tuner.ko .../v412/tuner.ko.bak; depmod -a; rmmod ivtv wm8775 cx25840 tuner tveeprom; modprobe ivtv
[09:13:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: nope.
[09:14:00] SlicerDicer-: drat
[09:14:00] SlicerDicer-: I am trying to figure out why I am getting connection refused on my irsend
[09:14:00] mchou: what kind of irblaster is it?
[09:15:00] SlicerDicer-: irblaster.info is where I ordered it from
[09:15:00] mchou: sorry, no idea on that one.,
[09:15:00] SlicerDicer-: yeah I am trying to control my cablebox
[09:15:00] mchou: no serial connector?
[09:16:00] SlicerDicer-: what you mean?
[09:16:00] mchou: on the cablebox.
[09:16:00] SlicerDicer-: well there is but its not active
[09:16:00] mchou: get the cableco to activate it :)
[09:16:00] SlicerDicer-: they wont
[09:16:00] mchou: take it down to the local headend office.
[09:17:00] SlicerDicer-: I got it there
[09:17:00] SlicerDicer-: they wont do it
[09:17:00] SlicerDicer-: remember you had me go :P
[09:17:00] mchou: bah.
[09:17:00] mchou: you werent persuasive enough
[09:17:00] mchou: they probably thought you were some punk.
[09:17:00] monsoon: :[ still getting the noise
[09:18:00] SlicerDicer-: umm... it was all females and well I dont do well with females at least with convincing
[09:18:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: huh???
[09:18:00] mchou: young or old? :)
[09:18:00] SlicerDicer-: older
[09:18:00] SlicerDicer-: I am 23 years old I was nice as could be and it was like she was on the rag or something...
[09:18:00] mchou: lol. That's why. Couldnt get time of day from grandma :)
[09:19:00] mchou: ask for a tech :)
[09:19:00] SlicerDicer-: hehe
[09:20:00] mchou: just mutter some technobabble to grandma re problem w STB. She will have a puzled face, then ask to speak to a tech.
[09:21:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[09:21:00] mchou: the tech will do it for ya no questions asked.
[09:21:00] mchou: irblaster is not an ideal solution.
[09:21:00] SlicerDicer-: why not?
[09:22:00] mchou: cause you wont get confirmation that the box actually did change channels.
[09:22:00] SlicerDicer-: :/
[09:23:00] monsoon: hmm i dont think my init ivtv looks very good
[09:23:00] mchou: do modinfo tuner this time again and gimme filename
[09:24:00] monsoon: now its showing /lib/modules/2.6.11.9/ivtv/tuner.ko
[09:24:00] mchou: paste ivtv output from dmesg in pastebin.
[09:25:00] monsoon: here is my ivtv from dmesg: http://pastebin.com/305074
[09:26:00] mchou: monsoon: cx25840: Failed to load any FW image file.
[09:26:00] mchou: fix it.
[09:28:00] mchou: after you fix that you might need to reboot.
[09:30:00] mchou: this line is problematic too: tveeprom: tuner = <unknown> (idx = 99, type = 0)
[09:30:00] mchou: there is no such thing as type 0
[09:31:00] mchou: and you need to Undo whatever Christoper told you.
[09:31:00] monsoon: do I need to have options ivtv tuner=57 ?
[09:32:00] mchou: nope.
[09:35:00] monsoon: Im guessing that to fix the cx25840 failure I needed to mv HmFalcon... to ivtv-fw-dec.bin?
[09:35:00] mchou: how many times I got to tell you to READ the ivtv docs?
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[09:55:00] monsoon: hmm well Im not sure what I did, but now Im getting input/outpu error when running cat /dev/video0
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[10:04:00] SlicerDicer-: is anybody here using a irblaster with a comcast cablebox?
[10:13:00] monsoon: ok Im not getting input/output error anymore but still static
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[10:14:00] monsoon: mchou, is it a problem that dmesg is reporting ivtv: defaulting to wintv pvr 250 card?
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[10:15:00] monsoon: hey Christopher, still struggling with this thing :\
[10:15:00] Christopher: monsoon: yes I am.
[10:16:00] monsoon: I meant I am :\
[10:16:00] Christopher: monsoon: I'm rebuilding the kernel support for eeprom and setting it to module support.
[10:16:00] Christopher: I switched to the .3.6s drivers like you're using though.
[10:17:00] monsoon: oh heh i switched to 3.5
[10:17:00] Christopher: I don't know if I can blame the IVTV driver, cause I don't know if my kernel is setup correctly.
[10:17:00] monsoon: its getting late though I guess ill have to give up
[10:17:00] Christopher: monsoon: those versions are updated on a semi-daily basis... nothing since 3.2 is "anymore stable" than the cvs.
[10:18:00] monsoon: oh well I give up, im tired
[10:18:00] Christopher: have a good night. :)
[10:18:00] monsoon: ill be back tomorrow though :\
[10:18:00] monsoon: thx you too
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[12:40:00] psywar: anyone know how to get the same image displayed on TV and CRT using nvidia drivers?
[12:40:00] psywar: is "twinview" what I'm looking for?
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[12:45:00] Peit|work: twinview will do it,
[12:45:00] Peit|work: it's in the docs for that anyhow
[12:46:00] psywar: docs for what, nvidia driver?
[12:47:00] psywar: i see
[12:47:00] psywar: ty
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[15:59:00] BMOC: i have commercials marked in a recording, so i can skip through them, what's the best way to remove them so i can stick the show on a dvd?
[16:01:00] stevenh: nuv2disc
[16:02:00] BMOC: err, does that cut out the commercials?
[16:02:00] stevenh: http://extras.mythtvtalk.com/
[16:02:00] stevenh: yes
[16:02:00] BMOC: spiffy
[16:02:00] stevenh: they have to be flagged
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[16:02:00] BMOC: yeah, they are
[16:03:00] BMOC: will it work if i used mpeg4?
[16:03:00] stevenh: i don't think so i think they need to be mpeg2
[16:05:00] stevenh: actually they might using nuvexport. I'd have to check a bit more.
[16:06:00] stevenh: yeah nuvexport does it, that is all part of nuv2disc so you should be all set.
[16:08:00] BMOC: oh ok, spiffy
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[16:29:00] BMOC: hmm, i wonder where you get a lot of these requirements
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[16:48:00] KaZeR: hi there. is there a way to deinterlace video? (not sure it's the correct word)
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[16:55:00] KaZeR: sample image so it's easier to understand : http://www.kazer.org/ivtv/mosaique/index.php?c=channel-27.png
[16:56:00] BMOC: there is a preference for deinterlacing, as far as i know
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[16:56:00] KaZeR: i had a look in the settings but didn't found anything
[16:57:00] KaZeR: like transcoding, it doesn't seems to work (i cut a show, selected export, it showed 'exporting' but nothing else happened
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[16:58:00] GreyFoxx: Um, the very first option under Settings/TVSettings/Playback is "Deinterlace playback"
[16:59:00] GreyFoxx: I use the classic menu view though, so the menu might have a different name for you, but it's in there
[17:00:00] KaZeR: but this only affect playback, is there a way to record deinterlaced? because i like to play the video back from my xbox and a network share
[17:00:00] GreyFoxx: No, there is no way to record it that way
[17:00:00] GreyFoxx: But your xbox should be able to deinterlace if needed
[17:00:00] KaZeR: ok thanks :)
[17:00:00] KaZeR: and for that transcoding thing?
[17:00:00] GreyFoxx: I don't transcode via myth, no idea
[17:01:00] GreyFoxx: nor do I use nuvexport
[17:01:00] KaZeR: home made transcode ?
[17:01:00] GreyFoxx: No, I pretty much don't transcode at all
[17:01:00] GreyFoxx: I have little desire or need too
[17:01:00] GreyFoxx: and on the rare occasions that I do I do it manually
[17:02:00] KaZeR: ok. it's usefull for me, because i don't play the videos back with mythtv, but rather with xbmc which doesn't handle myth cut points
[17:05:00] jsldub: has anyone here set up the remote with a kworld bt878 ?
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[17:07:00] ** GreyFoxx curses at his switch for not responding to snmp requests **
[17:10:00] ** Beirdo curses at mythtv for filling up the PVR while he was busily ignoring it **
[17:11:00] ** Beirdo goes on a deleting spree **
[17:12:00] Beirdo: at least now mythweb no longer causes the backend to choke like it did for a while
[17:13:00] ** Beirdo smiles **
[17:13:00] ** bhursey waves a GreyFoxx **
[17:14:00] Beirdo: you put that GreyFoxx down!
[17:14:00] bhursey: i ment at
[17:14:00] bhursey: =)
[17:14:00] Beirdo: heh
[17:15:00] Beirdo: heh
[17:15:00] bhursey: well i think i know why my irtv isent working weill it started and irw was lisening but isent irtv for ivtv and bttv. But my card runs a cx chip.
[17:15:00] Beirdo: got two Family Guys waiting
[17:15:00] Beirdo: been a while since I turned on the TV obviously
[17:15:00] bhursey: ircq i mean
[17:15:00] bhursey: or im getting the acronim rong
[17:16:00] bhursey: have yall had any sucess getting remotes working on cx chipsets the sucessor to bttv.
[17:16:00] ** Beirdo doesn't use a remote **
[17:17:00] bhursey: Beirdo: slacker =)
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[17:17:00] Beirdo: I use an IR keyboard
[17:17:00] Beirdo: remotes are overrated
[17:17:00] bhursey: I have an ir key bord its just to freaking big I want to get my remote working.
[17:18:00] bhursey: well not ir its a logitech keybord.
[17:18:00] bhursey: so I think its rf
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[17:18:00] GreyFoxx: Hrm, wonder if this switch will survive a firmware update
[17:18:00] bhursey: GreyFoxx: you wont know tell you try. =)
[17:19:00] Beirdo: hehe
[17:19:00] bhursey: if it dosent work after I think the swich did not servive. =)
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[17:23:00] GreyFoxx: And of course this switch isn't even LISTED on nortels site *sigh*
[17:24:00] bhursey: how old is it?
[17:24:00] GreyFoxx: several years. They list other models of the same switch (12 and 24 port versions) but not this one (16 port)
[17:25:00] GreyFoxx: I'm 99% sure it uses the same firmware from lasttime I udated one. But that was a long time ago
[17:25:00] bhursey: why do you need to update it ?
[17:25:00] bhursey: is it giving you problems?
[17:25:00] GreyFoxx: There is a security bug in the version that's on it
[17:25:00] GreyFoxx: a user can gain remote access to it
[17:26:00] bhursey: ohh.. thats never good.
[17:26:00] GreyFoxx: and the company that had it never updated it
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[17:49:00] jsldub: does anybody know a good howto on making a ~/.lircrc file?
[17:58:00] BMOC: is yours not working?
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[17:59:00] jsldub: well i can make it myself, but i would like a list of all of the shortcut keys
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[18:00:00] jsldub: there is no mythtv manpage
[18:00:00] Chutt: it's in the docs.
[18:01:00] GreyFoxx: there is a keys.txt that comes with the myth source. No idea what comes with packages
[18:01:00] Chutt: and it's in the docs
[18:02:00] jsldub: "the docs"
[18:02:00] jsldub: ?
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[18:02:00] Chutt: the ones on the website, which you get to when you click on 'Documentation'?
[18:02:00] GreyFoxx: mythtv.org under Documentation
[18:02:00] Chutt: the ones you should be reading?
[18:02:00] Chutt: should also be in whatever package you installed, or in the source under docs/
[18:03:00] jsldub: i also cannot figure out why Key UP and Down currentwindow happen twice on the screen
[18:03:00] jsldub: they have the same repeat setting as everything else
[18:03:00] jsldub: and my remote sends each 4 times
[18:04:00] GeckoFiend: jsldub some remotes require different repeats for different keys
[18:04:00] jsldub: i will give it a try
[18:04:00] jsldub: i guess increasing the nuumber
[18:09:00] jsldub: for mythtv to reload .lircrc, it would have to be restarted, correct?
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[18:17:00] jsldub: i figured it out
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[18:19:00] TimmyJ: anyone gotten mythTV up and running on FC4 using the tutorial here: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php
[18:19:00] TimmyJ: ..which is for FC3
[18:20:00] BMOC: i use it on fc4,sir
[18:20:00] BMOC: i am not sure the entire mythtv-suite is available
[18:20:00] BMOC: for fc4 at this time
[18:21:00] TimmyJ: BMOC, did you use the tutorial I linked above? or just do it urself?
[18:21:00] ** xris wonders who got knighted. **
[18:21:00] TimmyJ: xris, that'd be me apparently :)
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[18:23:00] GreyFoxx: yay, svn installed and working
[18:24:00] kormoc: wooties
[18:24:00] jsldub: how does one get around the fact that mplayer and myth's tv have different key bindings? (when programming remote)
[18:24:00] BMOC: TimmyJ: i had packages from fc4
[18:24:00] BMOC: fc3
[18:24:00] BMOC: you don't need the entire suite
[18:25:00] TimmyJ: so you just used packages for FC3?
[18:25:00] BMOC: am still using them, yes
[18:25:00] GreyFoxx: jsldub: Either give mplayer a lirc config or reconfigure the mplayer buttons
[18:25:00] GreyFoxx: I don't use lirc, but I did reconfig mplayer to use basically the same buttons as in myth
[18:25:00] BMOC: if pastebin.com worked, i'd show them to you
[18:25:00] GreyFoxx: pastebin.ca is up
[18:26:00] jsldub: GreyFoxx: ok. i didnt know you could rebind mplayer shortcut keys
[18:26:00] GreyFoxx: and I can get to .com , appears to be working
[18:26:00] BMOC: try to submit something on there
[18:26:00] GreyFoxx: jsldub: You can configure a input.conf for it
[18:26:00] BMOC: http://pastebin.ca/16097
[18:26:00] BMOC: there you go TimmyJ
[18:26:00] GreyFoxx: ahhh gotcha, I see the error
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[18:27:00] bhursey: LOL GreyFox: i configed in my xml file for mplayer to run my dvds a certan way then yesterday I was going through the dvd setup menu and i saw I can put custom comands in.. I was like SOB!!!
[18:28:00] GreyFoxx: bhursey: It was either you or someone else I told to edit it within myth since it's just a edit box :)
[18:28:00] GreyFoxx: line
[18:28:00] bhursey: well i missed that...
[18:28:00] bhursey: but you have to manualy edit it for the tv.
[18:28:00] GreyFoxx: There is the start of internal dvd playing support in myth, but I've yet to use it
[18:29:00] bhursey: But ist allright i just think its funny..
[18:29:00] TimmyJ: thx BMOC, what pvr card you use?
[18:29:00] BMOC: 150 mce
[18:29:00] bhursey: Ya i got my new dvd burner from new egg.. and I wanted to try it out.. A dual layer dvd burner for 40$
[18:30:00] bhursey: Samsung
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[18:30:00] TimmyJ: lol got the some one bhursey
[18:30:00] bhursey: really?
[18:30:00] GreyFoxx: I used myth as my dvd playerfor a while when my last dvd player died, but I picked up another one so I'm back to that :)
[18:30:00] bhursey: the one with thr round button
[18:30:00] TimmyJ: yea, think so
[18:30:00] TimmyJ: mmhmm
[18:30:00] bhursey: one sec
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[18:32:00] TimmyJ: BMOC, (sorry for all the questions) but is that link you set me all the FC3 packages you are using for mythTV? are they from atrpms?
[18:32:00] bhursey: TimmyJ: this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827151054R
[18:32:00] BMOC: i think they are from there
[18:32:00] bhursey: thats the one I got
[18:32:00] BMOC: that's all the ones i have installed
[18:32:00] bhursey: OMG it droped 10$
[18:32:00] bhursey: gerr
[18:32:00] jonK: i like newegg
[18:33:00] bhursey: me too but they only have the windows media adition of the pvr-150
[18:33:00] GreyFoxx: So ?
[18:33:00] TimmyJ: whooops, not that one bhursey
[18:33:00] bhursey: I dono if it will work
[18:34:00] bhursey: and it dosent have a remote
[18:34:00] GreyFoxx: I believe lots of people use the MCE version
[18:34:00] bhursey: ohh I may still by the remote you have
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[18:35:00] bhursey: but grey I think my remote isent working because it uses the cx chipset and i need the bttv driver to have suport for the remote.
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[18:37:00] bhursey: LIRC i beleave works best with ivtv and bttv
[18:37:00] BMOC: shoot lvemux won't compile:(
[18:38:00] GreyFoxx: bhursey: I don't use lirc for anything, so I have no idea what it does or doesn't need  :)
[18:38:00] bhursey: heh i know
[18:39:00] bhursey: im just thinking out loud
[18:39:00] bhursey: but do you think i could swich back to the bttv kernel module insted of the cx88
[18:40:00] GreyFoxx: I would have no idea. This is the trial and error part of the class :)
[18:40:00] bhursey: but but i hate that part of the class. We cant anoy the teacher....
[18:40:00] bhursey: =)
[18:42:00] bhursey: I have a nice color issue on recording..
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[18:42:00] bhursey: But it does record. I was happy to see that last night.. I had to manualy change the channel to the channel I was recording but it started and stoped on time. =D
[18:43:00] bhursey: ok im out later all
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[18:56:00] Christopher: My pvr-500 isn't tuning correctly. Can anyone help?
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[19:03:00] BMOC: where do you get tuvexport?
[19:03:00] BMOC: Christopher: what distro?
[19:03:00] Christopher: BMOC: Gentoo.
[19:03:00] Christopher: BMOC: I'm running the 2.6.11-gentoo-r11 sources.
[19:03:00] BMOC: what is it doing?
[19:04:00] Christopher: BMOC: Tuning in channel 5, and then after about 2 mins, it's "untuning" everything.
[19:04:00] BMOC: so you can turn channel, but it goes back?
[19:04:00] Christopher: BMOC: After a few minutes of quality tuning... then it starts to get bad.
[19:04:00] Christopher: BMOC: It's like the channel was fine-tuned out of focus.
[19:04:00] BMOC: you have latest myth?
[19:05:00] Christopher: BMOC: I heard this is somewhat common. I'll post my dmesg output.
[19:08:00] Christopher: BMOC: I'm running lastest gentoo e-build.
[19:08:00] Christopher: BMOC: Here's the init.ivtv. chriscamisa.com/dev/init.ivtv.txt
[19:08:00] BMOC: where?
[19:08:00] BMOC: oh
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[19:09:00] BMOC: you have 150 mce?
[19:09:00] BMOC: what version of ivtv?
[19:09:00] BMOC: i have pvr 150 too
[19:09:00] Christopher: BMOC: I have the pvr-500.
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[19:09:00] BMOC: 0.3.6-r
[19:09:00] Christopher: The top of the init.ivtv.txt shows I'm using version .3.6s
[19:09:00] BMOC: try that version of ivtv
[19:10:00] Christopher: I was on .3.6.r yesterday.
[19:10:00] BMOC: same thing?
[19:10:00] Christopher: What does your init.ivtv dmesg output show?
[19:10:00] BMOC: how do you get it to show just that section?
[19:10:00] Christopher: Well for the last 48 hours I wasn't able to tune in channels 2–20 clearly. Then last night after I put in .3.6s I was able to see it correctly for a while... (It's bad now) But... at least it started to work.
[19:11:00] Christopher: BMOC: dmesg > edit.this.text.file.txt
[19:11:00] BMOC: no, i know that:()
[19:11:00] BMOC: i was wondering if you parsed it in some way
[19:11:00] xris: I think I want some espresso....
[19:11:00] Christopher: BMOC: I just manually did it.
[19:11:00] laga: xris: get me one, too
[19:12:00] Christopher: BMOC: me2
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[19:13:00] BMOC: pastebin.com really stinks
[19:13:00] BMOC: http://pastebin.ca/16104
[19:15:00] Christopher: BMOC: Line 24 gets my attention... I have that same line in mine. What do you think?
[19:15:00] BMOC: i had to do something funny with mine to get it working right, but that may only be for fedora
[19:15:00] Christopher: BMOC: Your Firmware version 0x02040011 is much older than the one they recommend to use also.
[19:15:00] BMOC: we all had problems in fedora, so we had to edit mythbackend script
[19:16:00] BMOC: Christopher: i don't know how to even upgrade the firmware
[19:16:00] BMOC: or where an upgrade is
[19:16:00] BMOC: start() {
[19:16:00] BMOC: echo -n $"Starting $prog: "
[19:16:00] BMOC: /sbin/modprobe ivtv
[19:16:00] BMOC: that's my modified mythtvbackend
[19:17:00] Christopher: BMOW: copy your HcwFalcn.rom from the CD and put in /lib/modules. Then symlink ivtv-fw-enc.bin -> HcwFalcn.rom
[19:17:00] Christopher: Christopher: That's how I think it works anyway... and then the firmware loaded is the one that ships with the 150.
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[19:19:00] BMOC: what cd?
[19:20:00] BMOC: so it doesn't upgrade the card itself?
[19:21:00] Christopher: BMOC: I bought the OEM Hauppauge pvr-500... and do linux it's just 2 pvr-150s. The FW on the CD is a binary the ivtv driver loads onto the Hauppauge pvr-150 during use.
[19:21:00] Christopher: BMOC: the ivtv-dev mailing list shows the pvr-150 and pvr-500 need to use the FW on the CD.
[19:21:00] BMOC: where on the cd?
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[19:22:00] Christopher: BMOC: do a "dir -s HcwFalcn.rom" from C:\>
[19:22:00] Christopher: BMOC: I mean D:\> whatever your CD drive is.
[19:22:00] BMOC: i'm in linux:)
[19:22:00] BMOC: there's an HCWCLEAR.exe
[19:22:00] BMOC: that's about it
[19:23:00] Christopher: BMOC: did you get your device in January?
[19:23:00] BMOC: no
[19:23:00] BMOC: like last month
[19:23:00] xris: laga: I'm *not* going to deliver an espresso to Deutchland
[19:26:00] Christopher: BMOC: my WinTV-PVR CD is Orange and on the right side, the disc says Version 2.6A and at the bottom the bottom of the CD underneath www.hauppauge.com says "CD-WINTV-MCE-V2.6A"
[19:26:00] BMOC: let me see
[19:27:00] BMOC: mine's 2.6, not 2.6a
[19:27:00] Christopher: Hmm... I'll have to image my CD...
[19:27:00] Christopher: What's the best way to do that under linux?
[19:28:00] Christopher: Oh... is yours the WinTV-PVR-150MCE...? or no MCE?
[19:28:00] BMOC: mce, yes
[19:29:00] BMOC: you mean make an iso?
[19:29:00] Christopher: yeah
[19:29:00] BMOC: i think k3b can do it easily
[19:30:00] laga: xris: :/
[19:30:00] xris: laga: besides, it'd be cold and bitter by the time it got to you./
[19:30:00] xris: you're better off driving down to italy.  :)
[19:30:00] BMOC: you don't need to give me the image, though:)
[19:31:00] BMOC: i mean, it's working for me, i was just curious if there was an easy way to upgrade the firmware
[19:31:00] laga: xris: you're right, probably. but delivering it is still better than growing, brewing *and* delivering it, so get your lazy ass off that chair now! ;)
[19:32:00] Christopher: BMOC: Have you seen this link? http://www.ivtv.tv/
[19:32:00] ** xris *is* lazy.. I even skipped work yesterday. **
[19:32:00] laga: heh
[19:32:00] laga: xris: i guess i'm going to be sick this friday.
[19:33:00] laga: it's just too hot.
[19:33:00] BMOC: the firmware thing on htere?
[19:33:00] BMOC: there
[19:33:00] BMOC: i am not sure i have that rom file
[19:34:00] Christopher: BMOC: the link to the wiki cautions pvr-150 and pvr-500 users to use the firmware on the CD...
[19:34:00] Christopher: BMOC: but they didn't count on two versions I guess...
[19:34:00] BMOC: hmm
[19:34:00] BMOC: i use the firmware that comes with it, and everything works
[19:35:00] BMOC: so this is on load firmware usage?
[19:35:00] BMOC: it doesn't update the card?
[19:36:00] BMOC: how do i add a button to mythtv menu?
[19:37:00] BMOC: it gave me the code to add
[19:37:00] BMOC: but where do i add it?
[19:38:00] BMOC: yeah, no firmwares do i see in root dir on my cd
[19:39:00] Christopher: BMOC: well... in the directory on the CD... there is an updated firmware.
[19:39:00] BMOC: oh mainmenu.xml
[19:39:00] BMOC: what dir?
[19:39:00] Christopher: BMOC: on mine it's the dir for the 500's drivers... the rest of the dirs are for other hardware.
[19:40:00] BMOC: well that's just great
[19:41:00] BMOC: ah i see
[19:41:00] Christopher: BMOC: do you see?
[19:42:00] BMOC: i was talking about nuv2cd
[19:42:00] BMOC: hold on:)
[19:43:00] BMOC: oh i see it
[19:43:00] BMOC: in 150500mce dir
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[19:44:00] BMOC: err, the rom files are already in /lib/moduls?
[19:45:00] BMOC: ok, did the symlink
[19:45:00] BMOC: so christopher, you don't need to symlink the hcwmakoa.rom?
[19:45:00] Christopher: BMOC: The filesize for my FW is 386KB.
[19:46:00] BMOC: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 369K Jun 28 12:44 HcwFalcn.rom
[19:46:00] BMOC: what about the makoa.rom?
[19:46:00] Christopher: BMOC: you're basically removing ivtv-fw-enc.bin... and then doing "ln -s HcwFalcn.rom ivtv-fw-enc.bin"
[19:47:00] opello: isn't that the audio decoder firmware only?
[19:47:00] Christopher: BMOC: which creates a smylink from ivtv-fw-enc.bin -> HcwFalcn.rom... then when you reinstall the driver, the dmesg and your init.ivtv will show the new FW fersion.
[19:47:00] BMOC: what about eh audio one?
[19:48:00] Christopher: I don't know.
[19:48:00] opello: i'm reasonably sure it is
[19:48:00] BMOC: oh, falcn is both?
[19:48:00] BMOC: video and audio?
[19:48:00] opello: no
[19:49:00] opello: there's a perl script to pull the ivtv-fw-enc.bin and ivtv-fw-dec.bin out of the windows driver installer
[19:49:00] BMOC: ok, what i am asking about is
[19:49:00] BMOC: why do the instructions say to symlink the enc file, but not the dec file?
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[19:49:00] BMOC: b/c 150 does not decode?
[19:50:00] jonK: sure it decodes
[19:50:00] jonK: it just doesn't tv out
[19:50:00] BMOC: jonK: 150 does not do hardware decoding
[19:50:00] opello: which instructions i guess ... i just used the perl script, and then copied the HcwMakoA.ROM to /lib/modules/
[19:50:00] Christopher: BMOC: your 150 doesn't have an encoder.
[19:50:00] BMOC: Christopher: it has an encoder, not a decoder
[19:50:00] opello: Christopher: all 150s have the hardware encoder
[19:50:00] Christopher: BMOC: I meant to say your 150 doesn't have a hardware decoder.
[19:50:00] BMOC: k
[19:51:00] opello: the .ROM file I have is quite a bit smaller than the ivtv-fw-enc.bin that I have
[19:51:00] Christopher: opello: what's the FW code yous ee in your init.ivtv from dmesg?
[19:52:00] opello: something i can grep for?
[19:52:00] opello: my system has been up long enough for dmesg to be filled with 'other' stuff
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[19:52:00] Christopher: hmm dunno if rmmod ivtv and then modprobe ivtv would put it back there or not.
[19:53:00] opello: yeah not going to do that but i'll just look
[19:53:00] GreyFoxx: it would
[19:53:00] GreyFoxx: since you would be reloading the module it will spit out everything as normal
[19:53:00] Christopher: opello: what are you afraid it won't work anymore?
[19:53:00] Christopher: or are you recording something?
[19:54:00] opello: yeah
[19:54:00] opello: and i'm not there to fix it if it doesn't come back up right
[19:54:00] opello: i have the init section
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[19:54:00] TimmyJ: anyone runnin ubuntu in here?
[19:54:00] Christopher: opello: What's your encoder revision?
[19:54:00] opello: Jun 8 00:19:23 pvr cx25840: FW image sha1 digest: 2b5e6292b7391c980b93d156cf6b34178ce770f6
[19:55:00] Christopher: opello: Mine is 0x02050032 on a pvr-500.
[19:55:00] opello: Jun 8 00:19:23 pvr ivtv: Tuner Type 57, Tuner formats 0x00001000, Radio: yes, Model 0x00915652, Revision 0x00000000
[19:55:00] opello: that?
[19:55:00] opello: (i also have a 500)
[19:56:00] opello: or...
[19:56:00] opello: Jun 8 00:19:23 pvr tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 23552, rev = D592, serial# = 2942900
[19:56:00] Christopher: opello: yeah, the FW you copied off the CD... what's your version? My CD is version 2.6A... BMOC's version is only 2.6.
[19:56:00] opello: i don't have the cd in front of me
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[19:56:00] Christopher: ivtv: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
[19:56:00] Christopher: ivtv: Encoder Firmware may be buggy, use version 0x02040011
[19:56:00] opello: did you get the revision number ou wanted?
[19:56:00] opello: yeah, i had that, and i dropped it down to the version it wanted
[19:56:00] Christopher: opello: I don't think so.
[19:57:00] opello: although it doesn't matter apparently
[19:57:00] Christopher: opello: does that seem to work?
[19:57:00] opello: (or so i've heard here)
[19:57:00] opello: does what seem to work?
[19:57:00] Christopher: opello: I'm crawling witht the new FW...
[19:57:00] opello: mine seems to work great
[19:58:00] Christopher: opello: I've had perfect video for a few minutes here and there... but right now the tuner isn't tuning right.
[19:58:00] opello: yikes
[19:58:00] Christopher: opello: what's your distro?
[19:58:00] opello: gentoo
[19:58:00] opello: i didn't use packages for ivtv
[19:59:00] Christopher: opello: please look at my init.ivtv I didn't use packages either. http://chriscamisa.com/dev/init.ivtv.txt
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[20:04:00] opello: yours is a lot different than mine, let me put it up for you
[20:05:00] opello: http://opello.org/~opello/opello-ivtv-init
[20:06:00] Christopher: opello: how long has .3.2n been up for you?
[20:06:00] opello: since the day it came out
[20:07:00] Christopher: opello: Well... your is verbosing lots of DMA settings.
[20:07:00] opello: yeah, but subtle differences in the way things were reported from mine to yours
[20:08:00] opello: that's what i meant 'a lot' not the ... blatant things
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[20:08:00] opello: alright – i have to run for work – good luck
[20:08:00] JohnnyQuest: run for work?
[20:08:00] JohnnyQuest: they make you run?
[20:08:00] Christopher: opello: thanks :)
[20:09:00] opello: heh, no, just finished lunch
[20:09:00] JohnnyQuest: im jking
[20:09:00] JohnnyQuest: have fun at work
[20:09:00] opello: thanks :)
[20:09:00] JohnnyQuest: anyone here ever have an error whenout putting mythtv to a tv with a blue border on the top and left sides of the screen?
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[20:30:00] jonK: can anyone help me with mkinitrd? it does not appear to be producing an output file
[20:30:00] jonK: (using mkinitrd -o)
[20:32:00] jonK: who got rooted?
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[20:46:00] jonK: can anyone help me with mkinitrd... the man page says to use "-o outfile" but when I this i don't seem to be getting an outfile
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[21:04:00] GreyFoxx: jonK: Why do you need to make an initrd ?
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[21:07:00] kenclark: hello
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[21:16:00] kenclark: will Mythvideo play .wmv
[21:16:00] SlicerDicer-: hi everybody
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[21:17:00] stoffel: kenclark: mythvideo doesn't play videos, the player you configured it to use does
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[21:17:00] SlicerDicer-: does anybody have any experience with using 2 different IR things the hauppauge one and then a irblaster for cablebox I cannot get both to work
[21:18:00] GreyFoxx: stoffel: Actually there is an internal player you can use now
[21:18:00] GreyFoxx: no idea if it handles wmv or not though
[21:19:00] GreyFoxx: I would assume it does
[21:19:00] stoffel: GreyFoxx: well, ok. but it only handles mpg2/avi, no?
[21:19:00] Chutt2: it'll do wmv7
[21:19:00] Chutt2: ffmpeg's wmv8 support sucks
[21:19:00] Chutt2: and the wmv9 stuff is essentially non-existant
[21:20:00] stoffel: ah, cool. so the internal player can handle any codec supported by ffmpeg?
[21:21:00] Chutt2: pretty much, yeah
[21:23:00] stoffel: Chutt2: got your new system working yet?
[21:24:00] kenclark: doe xine play wmv?
[21:25:00] Chutt2: this is it
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[21:39:00] Leebier: so when i try to watch a video in MythVideo, a message comes up telling me it's loading, and then nothing happens
[21:39:00] Leebier: just reverts me back to the info screen about the video, any ideas?
[21:40:00] GreyFoxx: launch mythfrontend from a xterm and check the output to see if an error comes back
[21:41:00] GreyFoxx: my first though about be it's failing to find the configured media player in your path, but it could easily be something else
[21:42:00] Leebier: hmm
[21:42:00] Leebier: you're not going to like this
[21:42:00] Leebier: looks like a PVR-350 output issue
[21:42:00] GreyFoxx: Why would I like or dislike anything? It's you who is being affected, not me :)
[21:42:00] Leebier: because no one in here likes issues resulting from PVR-350 output :-p
[21:42:00] GreyFoxx: What's the error you are getting ?
[21:43:00] Leebier: no Xvidoe support for my video card available
[21:43:00] GreyFoxx: Mostly cause so few of us either have a 350 or use it for output because of the inherent issues
[21:43:00] Leebier: i'm not upset or anything, just poking fun
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[21:44:00] GreyFoxx: Leebier: look into 1 of 3 things. The ivtv patch for mplayer, force it to use x11 out "-vo x11 " or check into the latest versions of the ivtv X module since they are experimenting with xvideo support
[21:44:00] GreyFoxx: might find someone on the #ivtv-dev channel who might be more helpful, or the ivtv mailing list
[21:45:00] Leebier: aha
[21:45:00] Leebier: -vo x11 seems to work
[21:46:00] bhursey: hey Grey I just got a pascal book and 2 cobol books fro free.
[21:46:00] bhursey: =D
[21:46:00] kenclark_: would my sound card have anything to do with my recordings being out of sync after i cut comercials?
[21:46:00] bhursey: the library was giving out there old books
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[21:46:00] GreyFoxx: cool. I've got several of my old pascal/asm/module-2 books in abox somewhere
[21:46:00] GreyFoxx: modula-2
[21:46:00] bhursey: hehe, i just grab old books for history sake.. I have a fortran book at home.
[21:47:00] Leebier: but no audio now
[21:47:00] GreyFoxx: Leebier: Check into the mplayer ivtv patch.
[21:47:00] GreyFoxx: That might be more useful
[21:47:00] GreyFoxx: Or the newere ivtv X drivers
[21:47:00] beavis: Chutt2: are you using a 64bit OS now?
[21:47:00] Leebier: k, thanks grey :)
[21:48:00] SlicerDicer-: anybody familar with irblasters here?
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[21:56:00] emilylove: Greetings everyone!
[21:56:00] Beirdo: welcome back :)
[21:56:00] emilylove: I have a hypothetical question before wasting a lot of time...
[21:56:00] emilylove: heh thanks bierdo
[21:57:00] emilylove: If I set up my 1ghz as a backend, and used a PIII 600 as a frontend
[21:57:00] emilylove: I'm assuming that distributing the power would allow me better quality live tv?
[21:57:00] jsldub: emilylove: that's what i've been wondering. tell me how it works out
[21:57:00] Beirdo: if using a software encoder? it should
[21:57:00] emilylove: ok... next question
[21:57:00] emilylove: I'm running it over a wireless "G" network...
[21:57:00] emilylove: how is DVD/CD ripping gonna work thorugh that?
[21:58:00] Beirdo: no idea
[21:58:00] emilylove: does it just do all the work on the frontend and copy to the backend?
[21:58:00] emilylove: I'm thinking I'm gonna try it....
[21:58:00] Beirdo: someone who uses that functionality will have to comment, I think :)
[21:58:00] jsldub: will copy fine. your cdrw is not as fast as 54Mbps like wireless G
[21:58:00] emilylove: does anyone in here use a different backend/front end
[21:58:00] emilylove: oh ok :-)
[21:58:00] jsldub: i burn regularly over 10Mbps
[21:59:00] emilylove: well what about DVD ripping? like 9 gigs? over G?
[21:59:00] jsldub: emilylove: just be sure to enable "burnfree"
[21:59:00] emilylove: burnfree? what's that?
[21:59:00] SlicerDicer-: what are the chances of the dataport being unlocked on the back of my cablebox?
[21:59:00] jsldub: it will let the input buffer for data going to the cdrw to drop to zero without making you a new coaster
[21:59:00] GreyFoxx: emilylove: I have several frontends on my network, but I don't do any cd or dvd ripping at all
[22:00:00] emilylove: o i c
[22:04:00] emilylove: hmmm...well, I guess no harm in trying
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[22:04:00] emilylove: If it worked it would be very cool
[22:05:00] emilylove: now what happens if I have a frontend and I select "live tv"
[22:05:00] emilylove: and another frontend does it...
[22:05:00] emilylove: do we fight over channels?
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[22:06:00] GreyFoxx: the 2nd will be told the tuner is in use (assuming you only have 1 or that all of them are in use)
[22:06:00] GreyFoxx: If you have multiple tuners or at least 1 free the 2nd frontend will use that
[22:06:00] emilylove: oh cool, so If I stuck in a 2nd tuner it would work...
[22:06:00] emilylove: wow..thats very cool..
[22:06:00] GreyFoxx: yup
[22:06:00] emilylove: alright, well I'll report back how the whole thing works
[22:07:00] GreyFoxx: I've got 3 in my box. Helps wil conflicting recording schedules and if I wanted live tv from multiple frontends
[22:07:00] emilylove: see ya all, and I'll check a DVDRip and see how it works over front-end backend ..
[22:07:00] emilylove: bye!
[22:07:00] GreyFoxx: though if you are planning to buy hardware I would suggest using a pvr250 or pvr150 for your capture card
[22:07:00] GreyFoxx: later
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[22:07:00] bhursey: emily just made i intresting point could the back end do all the software encodeing?
[22:08:00] bhursey: like my problem grey with the lagg
[22:08:00] GreyFoxx: The backend handles all capture functions, including software encoding
[22:08:00] bhursey: umm ummm ummmm YAY
[22:08:00] GreyFoxx: the frontend decodes/playsback
[22:08:00] bhursey: do I have to have the capture card in the back end?
[22:08:00] GeckoFiend: bhursey yes
[22:09:00] jsldub: who is a developer. i read that myth does not work if "gnome" is being used and must be switched to "kde" to avoid window focus errors. can someone explaing this?
[22:09:00] GreyFoxx: If you have a second box you could certainly put only mythfrontend on it
[22:09:00] GeckoFiend: well, in the sense that a frontend can't use one
[22:09:00] GreyFoxx: jsldub: kde is not required
[22:09:00] GreyFoxx: a window manager of some sort will help avoid focus issues, but no particular one is needed
[22:10:00] jsldub: well i use evilwm like in this howto http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV#Getting_Started
[22:10:00] GeckoFiend: jsldub however a light wieght one (i.e. ratpoison) is reccomended over a hevay one (i.e KDE & Gnome)
[22:10:00] jsldub: jstill get focus errors some time
[22:10:00] GeckoFiend: jsldub then your wm is broken
[22:10:00] GreyFoxx: I've never used evilwm, so I can't commment on it
[22:10:00] bhursey: well that is a down side. but sence I have a 3000+ barton that would be my back end ie:(my workstation) this may work.
[22:10:00] jsldub: i should use fvwm2
[22:11:00] GreyFoxx: There are several lightweight managers out there to use.
[22:11:00] jsldub: what do you recommend?
[22:11:00] GeckoFiend: bhursey the definition of a backend in myth is pretty much: "The process that captures data from one or more capture cards"
[22:12:00] GeckoFiend: I use ratpoison on my deidcated myth boxes
[22:12:00] GreyFoxx: jsldub: Personally I use icewm, but there are lots to choose from
[22:12:00] jonK: keep the rats out?
[22:12:00] bhursey: but i could use a separate remote through teh front end. =)...
[22:12:00] jonK: my cat likes to sit on top of my mythbackend
[22:12:00] GeckoFiend: heh their webpage says "say goodbye to the rodent"
[22:12:00] jsldub: i just cant get to work. even the remote will not work in the case i am talking about.
[22:13:00] GeckoFiend: I've never tried to use it as a geneal purpose WM.. I'm not that big of a keyboard commando
[22:13:00] jsldub: which is weird. that irxevent does not need input the same way as the keyboard.
[22:13:00] jsldub: keyboard needs window to have focus
[22:14:00] bhursey: backend: 3000+ barton with Leadtek 2000xp Expert, Front End: 1.3 Tbird over 100mb network and a usb remote.
[22:14:00] bhursey: the back end will storre all of the recordings right?
[22:15:00] GreyFoxx: Hrm, looks like I might be heading to Germany in a couple weeks. Maybe I'll drop in on laga hehe
[22:15:00] bhursey: Im excited now =)
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[22:17:00] KSG-MoD: hi i just installed knoppmyth here ... now im at channel scanning and it stucks at 10% ... what could be the reason?
[22:18:00] Atamido: Mine doesn't even give me the option to scan channels.  :P
[22:18:00] KSG-MoD: how do you get the channels in then? :)
[22:19:00] Atamido: They are autopopulated by mythfilldatabase
[22:19:00] Leebier: well, it would seem that ivtv isn't even the problem.... yet... my sound card seems to be non configured
[22:20:00] Atamido: I have a few channels listed that I can't pick up.  ;)
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[22:23:00] bhursey: so there would be no way to capture from the front end then send to the back end then encode then send back.
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[22:30:00] TimmyJ: this isn't the proper channel to ask about ivtv problems correct?
[22:31:00] jonK: ask away
[22:31:00] TimmyJ: I get this error during make:
[22:32:00] TimmyJ: make[2]: *** [/usr/src/ivtv-0.2.0-rc3k/driver/msp3400.o] Error 1
[22:32:00] TimmyJ: make[1]: *** [_module_/usr/src/ivtv-0.2.0-rc3k/driver] Error 2
[22:32:00] TimmyJ: make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10'
[22:32:00] TimmyJ: make: *** [all] Error 2
[22:32:00] jonK: go up higher, I bet you'll see a "file not found" error
[22:32:00] jonK: or something similar
[22:32:00] jonK: and what kind of card?
[22:33:00] TimmyJ: pvr-150
[22:33:00] jonK: i'd get a newew version of ivtv the 150 support was only backported to the .0.2 branch
[22:33:00] jonK: but that is not the source of your error
[22:34:00] TimmyJ: I got ivtv-0.2.0-rc3k
[22:34:00] TimmyJ: isn't that the newest?
[22:34:00] jonK: now there's a whole 0.3 branch
[22:35:00] jonK: i meant no,
[22:35:00] jonK: but it still works
[22:35:00] jonK: that might be the lasted package
[22:35:00] TimmyJ: hrm, I'll check the 0.3 branch and see how that goes
[22:35:00] jonK: that's not you're problem
[22:36:00] jonK: it would compile regardless of what card you have,
[22:36:00] jonK: i just noticed so i thought i'd ask
[22:36:00] TimmyJ: ah gotcha
[22:37:00] TimmyJ: when I look through the output from the 'make' every line is a warning or an error :(
[22:38:00] jonK: did you install the kernel source?
[22:38:00] jonK: and headers?
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[22:39:00] TimmyJ: I think so...I followed a tutorial for ubuntu found here..http://www.cs.rit.edu/~css8044/?q=ivtv#
[22:39:00] TimmyJ: I'll look through it again
[22:40:00] jonK: use synaptic, search for "header"
[22:40:00] jonK: find the one for linux 2.6.10 (maybe -586) and install it
[22:42:00] TimmyJ: alrighty
[22:43:00] Atamido: TimmyJ: Do you have the 150MCE?
[22:44:00] TimmyJ: Atamido, no...retail
[22:44:00] TimmyJ: with the remote :)
[22:44:00] TimmyJ: jonK, I think I got it!
[22:44:00] Atamido: I bought mine retail and it was an MCE.
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[22:45:00] jonK: still, upgrade to the 0.3 branch
[22:45:00] jonK: and compile it insead
[22:46:00] Atamido: The only thing that distinguished it was the little 'sticker' that says "designed for Windows XP" has another one right next to it that says "Windows Media Center Edition"
[22:46:00] Atamido: Anyway, I had to get a recent part of the 0.3.x branch to get it to work.
[22:46:00] JohnnyQuest: I have an error I output mythtv to a tv, a blue border on the top and left sides of the screen appear, when im not in mythtv, it doesnt appear
[22:47:00] Atamido: TimmyJ: I got my build from here. http://www.ivtv.tv/releases/ivtv-0.3/
[22:48:00] JohnnyQuest: for a pvr-150?
[22:48:00] ** xris scribbles down kormoc's bank acct info as he reads it out over the phone.... **
[22:49:00] JohnnyQuest: lol
[22:49:00] Beirdo: hehe
[22:49:00] ** xris waits for kormoc to notice..... **
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[22:49:00] Atamido: JohnnyQuest: For my PVR-150 MCE, yes.
[22:49:00] JohnnyQuest: also, make sure you get the proper firmware for the pvr-150
[22:50:00] JohnnyQuest: makes a big difference in sound quality
[22:50:00] JohnnyQuest: i used to have a high pitched whine, i got different firmware, fixed it
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[22:51:00] JohnnyQuest: also, does anyone know how to fix the output from an nvidia card to make it fill up the whole tv screen?
[22:52:00] Beirdo: Ooooh
[22:52:00] Beirdo: the shirt for the channel.
[22:52:00] Beirdo: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/595d/
[22:52:00] jsldub: Option "TVOverScan"
[22:53:00] JohnnyQuest: how do i adjust the tvoverscan?
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[22:54:00] Chutt2: why don't you run the settings application that's provided with the driver?
[22:55:00] JohnnyQuest: i ran that
[22:55:00] JohnnyQuest: it didnt have it in there
[22:55:00] Chutt2: then your card's too old to adjust the overscan
[22:55:00] JohnnyQuest: it let me adjust very little
[22:55:00] JohnnyQuest: ok
[22:55:00] JohnnyQuest: so is there no way to adjust it?
[22:56:00] Beirdo: sure
[22:56:00] Chutt2: buy a newer card
[22:56:00] Beirdo: remove the card, put in a newer one
[22:56:00] Beirdo: :)
[22:56:00] JohnnyQuest: other than that?
[22:56:00] Chutt2: i just said 'your card is too old to adjust the overscan'
[22:56:00] Chutt2: did you think i was fucking lying to you?
[22:56:00] JohnnyQuest: no, is there another adjustmet other than the overscan?
[22:56:00] Chutt2: if you want to change the size on screen, that's what overscan means
[22:57:00] laga: JohnnyQuest: what card is it?
[22:57:00] JohnnyQuest: its old, geforce2
[22:59:00] Chutt2: you _may_ be able to use the nvtv app to adjust things
[22:59:00] Chutt2: but that's very unlikely
[22:59:00] Chutt2: http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-tv-out/
[23:00:00] jonK: Johnny, give it a good hammer whack, that's how I've always fixed poor tv reception
[23:00:00] JohnnyQuest: lol
[23:00:00] jonK: pull the card, whack with hammer
[23:00:00] jonK: or a mallet will do
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[23:00:00] JohnnyQuest: the tv is fine, the computer, it could use a steamroller
[23:00:00] jonK: well in that cse, beirdo's trout should have sufficient mass
[23:01:00] Beirdo: hehe
[23:01:00] Beirdo: especially when frozen
[23:02:00] JohnnyQuest: what about a geforce4?
[23:02:00] JohnnyQuest: i have one of those in another computer
[23:03:00] Chutt2: if it's an mx or newer, the nvidia-settings app should work
[23:03:00] JohnnyQuest: its a ti-4600
[23:04:00] JohnnyQuest: my geforce2 is an mx
[23:04:00] Chutt2: then probably not
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[23:07:00] abarbaccia: Beirdo, you get my message about your FAQ?
[23:08:00] Beirdo: no
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[23:08:00] abarbaccia: I'm making an ubuntu mythtv guide – and i wanted to ask you if i can link to your FAQ – it answers a lot of dumb questions
[23:08:00] Beirdo: sure
[23:08:00] abarbaccia: sweet, thanks
[23:08:00] Beirdo: it's meant to be more a channel FAQ for this channel, but go nuts
[23:09:00] abarbaccia: hahaha – yea, well i was gonna put it in the part about "getting more help"
[23:09:00] Beirdo: gotcha
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[23:09:00] laga: abarbaccia: if you feel like it, the german users probably will like a link to www.mythwiki.de – analog setup can be quite tricky with those channel numbers.
[23:10:00] abarbaccia: yea, i need to compile a list of good links – so i'll be sure to keep asking around here
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[23:13:00] jonK: make sure you give Beirdo's home address and email, he love's helping people
[23:13:00] ** Beirdo farts at jonK **
[23:14:00] abarbaccia: lol
[23:14:00] abarbaccia: random people show up at your house with their myth boxes
[23:14:00] hadees: so lets guess what the next amazing plugin someone will make is
[23:14:00] Beirdo: one that educates the users on how to not be stupid? :)
[23:14:00] laga: hadees: mythburn
[23:14:00] Beirdo: hehe
[23:15:00] GeckoFiend: heh http://www.freenation.tv/hotellostliberty2.html
[23:15:00] Beirdo: mythtrout
[23:15:00] hadees: Beirdo, haven't you noticed a drop off in plugins though
[23:15:00] Beirdo: no
[23:15:00] ** jonK smells the love **
[23:15:00] Beirdo: because I'm not looking for plugins :)
[23:15:00] hadees: is myth browser based on mozilla?
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[23:19:00] CyberKnet: Wow. I had no idea Keyhole / Google Earth was so slow to display imagery
[23:19:00] Beirdo: dunno, hadees.
[23:19:00] Chutt2: konq
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[23:22:00] mchou: GreyFoxx: you around?
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[23:24:00] hadees: is $128.16 a good deal for the Hauppauge WinTV-PVR 500MCE
[23:25:00] hadees: damn
[23:25:00] hadees: expired nm
[23:25:00] mchou: hadees: where was that?
[23:26:00] Chutt2: i paid about that much at amazon
[23:26:00] hadees: http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayItem.cfm/45975
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[23:26:00] mchou: Chutt2: did yours come with the extension bracket?
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[23:27:00] Chutt2: yup
[23:27:00] laga: night.
[23:27:00] mchou: Chutt2: nice.
[23:27:00] hadees: its $140 now
[23:28:00] Chutt2: they don't have it anymore
[23:28:00] Chutt2: that's not from amazon :p
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[23:28:00] mchou: haha!
[23:28:00] mchou: hadees: you running outta pci slots?
[23:28:00] hadees: nope
[23:28:00] hadees: i just thought it might be nice to get rid of the m179s
[23:29:00] hadees: or atleast scale back their use
[23:29:00] mchou: cause the 150 retail is $60 now at circuit city after rebates.
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[23:29:00] mchou: includes remote and irblaster.
[23:30:00] hadees: the pvr-150 and pvr-500 support is still alittle unstable right?
[23:30:00] mchou: 150 works fine for me :)
[23:30:00] hadees: mchou, you wouldn't happen to know how it rates against a m179
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[23:30:00] mchou: yeah I do :)
[23:30:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: 4
[23:30:00] mchou: get 150, no questions asked.
[23:30:00] Beirdo: hehe
[23:30:00] hadees: mchou, better or worse?
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[23:31:00] mchou: hadees: you just have to trust me on this one :)
[23:31:00] Beirdo: CyberKnet: 004
[23:31:00] toppin1: gawd i'm a fargin idiot... i had everything installed two days ago and had the wrong lircrc installed so the buttons didn't work... haha!
[23:31:00] Beirdo: :)
[23:31:00] CyberKnet: what! no!
[23:31:00] hadees: mchou, well i have a pvr-250 and two m179s
[23:31:00] toppin1: anyone have a good lircrc for the new hauppauge remote?
[23:31:00] mchou: In fact CyberKnet cabn shed some light on 500 vs m179 :)
[23:31:00] mchou: can*
[23:31:00] hadees: is the pvr-250 better then the pvr-150?
[23:32:00] CyberKnet: mchou: not yet he can't =)
[23:32:00] ** CyberKnet hasn't installed yet **
[23:32:00] ** CyberKnet hasn't had time **
[23:32:00] mchou: CyberKnet: what's wrong w/ you? :)
[23:32:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: 001
[23:32:00] toppin1: CyberKnet: it's a one-day thing after the first time
[23:32:00] mchou: hadees: I dont think so.
[23:32:00] CyberKnet: gah
[23:32:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: 00100
[23:32:00] CyberKnet: nothing like losing significant digits.
[23:33:00] Beirdo: same to you, put the sheep down and install your PVR-500 :)
[23:33:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: &H4;
[23:33:00] hadees: i wonder why they called it a pvr-150 if it is as well as the pvr-500
[23:33:00] mchou: caus 500 has two :)
[23:33:00] mchou: cause*
[23:34:00] jonK: then shouldn't it be the pvr300?
[23:34:00] hadees: i mean a pvr-250
[23:34:00] toppin1: anyone have a lircrc for their 150 remote that they like?
[23:34:00] hadees: if a pvr-250 is as good as a pvr-150
[23:34:00] hadees: why did the pvr-250 come out before the 150
[23:34:00] mchou: huh???
[23:35:00] CyberKnet: hadees: it was created first.
[23:35:00] mchou: lol :)
[23:35:00] hadees: CyberKnet, it was?
[23:35:00] mchou: good answer :)
[23:35:00] hadees: i never even heard of it
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[23:35:00] CyberKnet: hadees: the more relevant quesiton is: "Why did they call the 150 that when they already had a 250 that did the same thing?"
[23:35:00] Beirdo: because it's cooler than the 260
[23:35:00] Beirdo: or some such shit
[23:35:00] mchou: CyberKnet: who cares, it's a random name.
[23:35:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: my money is on that one.
[23:35:00] hadees: well thats what i mean what is the diffrence between a pvr-250 and a pvr-150
[23:36:00] CyberKnet: mchou: Now now. I didn't say a more *interesting* question. I just said more relevant.
[23:36:00] ** Beirdo slaps hadees with the topic **
[23:36:00] mchou: it's not like the names of your kids have to make progressive sense :0
[23:36:00] hadees: Beirdo, its not a dumb, i think they use the same chip too right
[23:36:00] hadees: its damn marketing
[23:36:00] mchou: hadees: not really.
[23:36:00] Beirdo: no, they don't
[23:37:00] toppin1: hadees: it's a completely different, cheaper chip
[23:37:00] Beirdo: the chips are different, in particular the one that interfaces to the PCI bus
[23:37:00] mchou: it's a stripped chip, no decoder, I believe.
[23:37:00] hadees: ah, do we even use the decoder in mythtv?
[23:37:00] Beirdo: the 250 had a stripped chip for a long time
[23:37:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, how goes the 500? :P
[23:37:00] CyberKnet: hadees: oh dear god. PLEASE go read =)
[23:37:00] KSG-MoD: do i have to configure ALL channels when performing a mythfilldatabase --manual ?
[23:37:00] toppin1: ping
[23:37:00] Beirdo: only the 350 really has the functional decoder, and REALLY old 250s, but it's not used there
[23:38:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: *sigh*
[23:38:00] toppin1: is this thing on?
[23:38:00] hadees: CyberKnet, give me a break i haven't had to buy a card for this in like a year and a half
[23:39:00] Beirdo: hadees: a bit of self-directed research would make you sound a lot less stupid about it
[23:39:00] CyberKnet: hadees: do we give n00bs a break because they've never bought a card?
[23:39:00] Beirdo: :)
[23:39:00] hadees: eh mabey
[23:39:00] mchou: hadees: so? doesnt excuse you from doing some research.....
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[23:39:00] ** Beirdo wonders WTF he is still doing at work!? **
[23:39:00] hadees: i am half awake at work anyway
[23:39:00] CyberKnet: we will tear strips off of each other just as quickly as we would the stinking masses.
[23:39:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, so I take it your 500 is being funky?
[23:39:00] CyberKnet: and they do stink.
[23:40:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: if by being funky you mean "sitting in an antistatic bag in a cardboard box" ... then yes. it is being funky.
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[23:40:00] Beirdo: time to get outta here and go home
[23:40:00] topping: can anyone hear me now?
[23:40:00] Beirdo: got film to scan, etc
[23:40:00] CyberKnet: later B.
[23:41:00] Beirdo: topping: no we can't hear you
[23:41:00] ** Beirdo snickers **
[23:41:00] topping: haha
[23:41:00] topping: whew
[23:41:00] topping: anyone have a lircrc they like for the hauppauge remote?
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[23:41:00] topping: (new grey, for the 150)
[23:41:00] hadees: topping, i would make your own
[23:41:00] KSG-MoD: can i savely kill the mythfilldatabase --manual process after i have set all channels i want?
[23:41:00] topping: hadees: i did, and lost it
[23:41:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[23:42:00] hadees: topping, i have found they can vary
[23:42:00] topping: i'll mod it, just wanted to get a starter pak
[23:42:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, tis okay.
[23:42:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: dare I say it, maybe tonight?
[23:42:00] kormoc: yay!
[23:43:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: time... she is not my friend, and does not know my face.
[23:43:00] hadees: topping, i am pretty sure one comes with ivtv
[23:43:00] hadees: doesn't it?
[23:43:00] kormoc: stop watching so much tv and you'd have time! :P
[23:43:00] topping: hmm
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[23:44:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: hmm... what is this tv thing you speak of?
[23:44:00] kormoc: ooh, it's nothing, feel free to send me your 500 as well as the other two cause like, tv is nothing at all :P
[23:45:00] CyberKnet: roflmao
[23:45:00] SteveHolt: topping: try the one that comes with myth: http://cvs.mythtv.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/myt . . . ;view=markup
[23:46:00] SteveHolt: works for my pvr-150
[23:47:00] mchou: SteveHolt: you got 150 retail?
[23:47:00] SteveHolt: yep
[23:47:00] topping: SteveHolt: thx!
[23:47:00] mchou: SteveHolt: what ver of lirc you using?
[23:47:00] SteveHolt: welcome
[23:48:00] mchou: SteveHolt: like are you using cvs or ?
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[23:48:00] SteveHolt: lirc from Debian unstable: 0.7.1pre2–6
[23:48:00] mchou: SteveHolt: OK.
[23:48:00] mchou: SteveHolt: does irbalster work yet? :)
[23:49:00] mchou: irblaster*
[23:49:00] SteveHolt: is that the receiver that comes with the pvr-150?
[23:49:00] SteveHolt: cause it works for me
[23:49:00] KSG-MoD: can i savely kill the mythfilldatabase --manual process after i have set all channels i want?
[23:49:00] mchou: 150 comes with ir receiver AND blaster.
[23:50:00] SteveHolt: ahh, i see
[23:50:00] SteveHolt: no I don't use the blaster
[23:50:00] topping: mchou: the blaster doesn't work yet tho, right?
[23:50:00] SteveHolt: just the receiver
[23:50:00] mchou: reciever works, but blaster doesnt afiak
[23:50:00] mchou: afaik*
[23:50:00] SteveHolt: too bad
[23:51:00] topping: that's what i thought too
[23:51:00] SteveHolt: would be nice to have myth turn on/off my TV
[23:51:00] SteveHolt: :)
[23:51:00] mchou: haha!
[23:51:00] topping: this one install i am doing, the cable box has usb, but not sure how to interface to it, so i think i'll need a blaster
[23:53:00] CyberKnet: later folks.
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