| Friday, June 17th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [00:00:00] | EFCF_2003: | ah |
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| [00:00:00] | EFCF_2003: | do you have web cam |
| [00:00:00] | JohnnyQuest: | are you a 40 year old guy acting like a girl? |
| [00:01:00] | EFCF_2003: | no |
| [00:01:00] | Agrajag-: | ahahah |
| [00:01:00] | JohnnyQuest: | sure |
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| [00:01:00] | epoch: | EFCF_2003: you know it's 2005, right? |
| [00:01:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thats what they all day |
| [00:01:00] | JohnnyQuest: | say* |
| [00:02:00] | EFCF_2003: | why did you say that |
| [00:02:00] | rjune: | EFCF_2003: do you have a webcam? |
| [00:02:00] | epoch: | cuz you're 2 years behind |
| [00:02:00] | iprone: | i feel like im in yahoo chat again |
| [00:02:00] | EFCF_2003: | yes |
| [00:03:00] | epoch: | right-o |
| [00:03:00] | iprone: | i gotta make sure my profile is updated |
| [00:03:00] | epoch: | omg rofl lol |
| [00:03:00] | epoch: | a/s/l!?!?!???!!!! |
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| [00:03:00] | EFCF_2003: | what |
| [00:03:00] | rjune: | EFCF_2003: ok, so do you have the URL for your webcam? |
| [00:04:00] | EFCF_2003: | yes |
| [00:04:00] | ** kormoc raises a eyebrow at EFCF_2003, wondering why she picked here to chat. ** | |
| [00:04:00] | rjune: | EFCF_2003: gonna share it? |
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| [00:04:00] | rjune: | heh |
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| [00:04:00] | rjune: | that was easy |
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| [00:08:00] | epoch: | oh come on |
| [00:08:00] | epoch: | that looked like fun |
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| [00:13:00] | m: | Are there any myth packages for the Sarge release? |
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| [00:16:00] | rjune: | epoch: I know, but she ran off |
| [00:16:00] | rjune: | I was hoping for free pr0n |
| [00:17:00] | epoch: | hahaha |
| [00:23:00] | monkeyBox: | ok, it looks like someone responed to my question, but I don't see how mysql could have anything to do with my problem: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2005-June/092568.html |
| [00:23:00] | monkeyBox: | the response: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2005-June/092572.html |
| [00:24:00] | monkeyBox: | mysql communication seems to work fine, it's just when I view video that it seems to screw up... |
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| [00:36:00] | Mersault_: | Quick question: I have a music folder on a llinux box that I share via mt-daapd, and I'm curious if mythmusic will recognize and utilize my daap shared music. |
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| [00:40:00] | mmm: | daap, that sounds neeto, what is it? |
| [00:40:00] | GeckoFiend: | Mersault_ no but mfe might |
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| [00:51:00] | mmm: | woops! hooked up the vcr backwards and it killed the entire house for TV |
| [00:51:00] | mmm: | hehehe |
| [00:52:00] | rjune: | mmm: nice |
| [00:52:00] | abarbaccia: | hey, anybody have any idea why lircd is killed upon startup? |
| [00:53:00] | mmm: | abarbaccia, no devices found maybe? |
| [00:53:00] | mmm: | hard to know without errors |
| [00:53:00] | mmm: | you could strace it, or use gdb if you don't get anything in the logs |
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| [00:56:00] | mmm: | What's a good resolution to run on a basic tv, probably 17 inches |
| [00:56:00] | mmm: | 800x600 too much? |
| [00:56:00] | kormoc: | depends on the tv and videocard/video device output then on size |
| [00:57:00] | kormoc: | you'll just have to play |
| [00:57:00] | mmm: | yeap, your right |
| [00:57:00] | rjune: | mmm: doesn't seem to matter with myth |
| [00:57:00] | rjune: | does seem to matter with games and such though |
| [00:57:00] | mmm: | i'll keep to low to keep the ringing in my ears to a minimum |
| [00:58:00] | mmm: | even 640x480 i get that horrible high pitched resolution sound |
| [00:58:00] | mmm: | damn my good ears |
| [00:58:00] | rjune: | mmm: usually I can tell when a tv is on when I walk into a room |
| [00:58:00] | mmm: | i hate that! |
| [00:58:00] | kormoc: | I can tell from a few rooms away |
| [00:58:00] | mmm: | i'll get flat screen when I'm rich |
| [00:58:00] | rjune: | kormoc: depends on the telly, good ones aren't so bad. |
| [00:59:00] | kormoc: | monitors too |
| [00:59:00] | rjune: | mmm: skip that, get a projector |
| [00:59:00] | mmm: | hah! build a sudo project out of fresnel lenses once |
| [00:59:00] | mmm: | that was fun |
| [00:59:00] | mmm: | used a tv though, hehe |
| [00:59:00] | kormoc: | rjune, I havn't seen a tv that doesn't get me, at least when it first turns on. |
| [00:59:00] | rjune: | go CRTs |
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| [00:59:00] | mmm: | if I had any wall space I might invest in ovhead project and VGA screen to go with it |
| [01:01:00] | dant: | I try to regularly expose my ears to damaging noise levels because the loud whining of CRTs is just too annoying otherwise |
| [01:01:00] | ** mmm giggles ** | |
| [01:01:00] | rjune: | LOL |
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| [01:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my tuner makes loud high pitched whinesss |
| [01:04:00] | johnnysmi: | anyone know a fix for Mythstreamtv playing video but no audio? |
| [01:05:00] | mmm: | there's a mythstremtv plugin? awesome |
| [01:05:00] | mmm: | must be codec I'd think |
| [01:05:00] | mmm: | it's only transcoding an mpg file right? |
| [01:05:00] | mmm: | shouldn't be much special |
| [01:06:00] | johnnysmi: | ya, its MPEG2 from my 250 card |
| [01:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | + |
| [01:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what does mythstreamtv do? |
| [01:06:00] | johnnysmi: | it will stream a live tv or recorded show over the internet to Media Player |
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| [01:07:00] | johnnysmi: | unfortunately for myself without audio for now |
| [01:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [01:07:00] | mmm: | i still blame codec |
| [01:07:00] | johnnysmi: | does anyone here use this? |
| [01:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | anyone have a high pitched whine coming from their tv tuner and only their tv tuner? |
| [01:07:00] | johnnysmi: | codec? really? |
| [01:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | vlc doesnt use codecs |
| [01:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | try vlc |
| [01:08:00] | mmm: | bah vlc has to use codecs |
| [01:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well it has them built in then.. |
| [01:08:00] | mmm: | ah maybe |
| [01:08:00] | mmm: | i'd look in the settings, play around |
| [01:08:00] | johnnysmi: | mythstreamtv uses vlc |
| [01:08:00] | mmm: | lol |
| [01:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [01:08:00] | mmm: | well what the f |
| [01:08:00] | johnnysmi: | to compile stream you need ffmpeg and vlc |
| [01:09:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont know what to tel lyou |
| [01:09:00] | johnnysmi: | no prob. im first task is to find someone with it working |
| [01:09:00] | mmm: | yea your on your own I think. run xine (or whatever) from console |
| [01:09:00] | abarbaccia: | mmm, everything seems to be going alright. When i bootup, i can just run lircd and then everything is pretty |
| [01:09:00] | mmm: | it'll probably yell at you about the audio not working and tell you why |
| [01:09:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i want xine |
| [01:09:00] | JohnnyQuest: | how do i get xine? |
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| [01:09:00] | abarbaccia: | JohnnyQuest, please google first |
| [01:09:00] | mmm: | what do you use now? |
| [01:09:00] | mmm: | abarbaccia, without errors it's hard to tell |
| [01:09:00] | mmm: | nothign in /var/log/syslog? |
| [01:09:00] | abarbaccia: | mmm, where would my errors be |
| [01:10:00] | mmm: | i dunno, run lircd from the console see what happens |
| [01:10:00] | mmm: | i'm really no expert on it |
| [01:10:00] | mmm: | i'll be installing it shortly myself, might be more help then |
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| [01:11:00] | abarbaccia: | mmm, thats what i do |
| [01:11:00] | abarbaccia: | this is hte only "error" |
| [01:11:00] | abarbaccia: | localhost kernel: lirc_dev: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted. |
| [01:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well, screw the xine, i want my lirc to work |
| [01:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i have googled lirc |
| [01:11:00] | mmm: | JohnnyQuest, if you have debian you can do apt-get install xine-gui I think |
| [01:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | he just mentioned xine |
| [01:11:00] | abarbaccia: | JohnnyQuest, you want to use xine – mplayer sucks |
| [01:11:00] | mmm: | looks like an error, google for that line |
| [01:12:00] | rjune: | abarbaccia: mplayer is wonderful |
| [01:12:00] | abarbaccia: | rjune, do you have dvd menus |
| [01:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i know i do |
| [01:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but ill worry about xine later |
| [01:12:00] | rjune: | abarbaccia: no. but then, I don't care if I have them either. |
| [01:13:00] | JohnnyQuest: | also, im having a problem with burned dvds playing with mplayer |
| [01:13:00] | abarbaccia: | mplayer doesnt suck – its just not good for what i want it to do |
| [01:13:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it plays only a few of the burned dvds i have, and those were the ones i authored myself |
| [01:13:00] | mmm: | ugh been so long since I had to install the ivtv modules |
| [01:13:00] | mmm: | forget everything |
| [01:14:00] | mmm: | ivtv won't load for some reason, and I never did anything with the firmware, can't figure out when/where I was supposed to do with it |
| [01:15:00] | ** mmm googles before he gets bitch slapped ** | |
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| [01:22:00] | mmm: | my pc's pissed, compiling mythtv and the kernel at the same time. yup |
| [01:22:00] | mmm: | and mythtv is taking FOREVER |
| [01:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [01:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya it does |
| [01:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | like 30 minutes |
| [01:22:00] | mmm: | I should start timing things, I forget when I started it |
| [01:23:00] | rinco: | compiling two things at once is a good way to increase your page faults |
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| [01:24:00] | monkeyBox: | strange... My 0.18.0 client works fine with the 0.18.1 backend!? While the 0.18.1 client won't work w/ it? |
| [01:25:00] | mmm: | go with the flow |
| [01:25:00] | mmm: | flows going backwards, whatever works |
| [01:25:00] | Agrajag-: | ... are you sure your backend is 0.18.1? |
| [01:25:00] | monkeyBox: | Agrajag-: what's an easy way to find out? |
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| [01:25:00] | Agrajag-: | you dont have 2 versions installed or something |
| [01:26:00] | monkeyBox: | my package manager (portage) says I have 0.18.1... |
| [01:26:00] | Agrajag-: | how did you install 0.18.0? |
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| [01:27:00] | monkeyBox: | same way, using portage |
| [01:28:00] | monkeyBox: | mythbackend --version reports "0.18.1.20050510–1" |
| [01:28:00] | Agrajag-: | ok... be a bit more specific about the "won't work" |
| [01:29:00] | monkeyBox: | Agrajag-: I was talking in here earlier today.. also posted a thread.. lemme fetch a link |
| [01:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [01:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you have been her eall day monkeybox |
| [01:29:00] | monkeyBox: | heh, yeah I know.. I'm desparate |
| [01:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im here all day too |
| [01:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i want my lirc to wokr |
| [01:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | work* |
| [01:30:00] | monkeyBox: | http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2005-June/092568.html |
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| [01:31:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm no idea |
| [01:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i cant get lirc to wokr except in the terminal |
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| [01:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | any ideas? |
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| [01:33:00] | mmm: | JohnnyQuest, i'm lost, so why doesn't it work? |
| [01:33:00] | mmm: | :-P |
| [01:33:00] | mmm: | need something more, I haven't been ehre all day I don't know if you've given any errors or not |
| [01:33:00] | mmm: | you can test it in console that's a really good sign, does mythtv just need to be configured somehow? |
| [01:33:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i jsut cant get it to do anything |
| [01:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [01:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | mythtv/mplayer doesnt do anythign when i press puttons |
| [01:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | bottons* |
| [01:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | buttons* |
| [01:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but in the terminal it shows which buttons im pressing |
| [01:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | if i run that oneco mand line.. |
| [01:35:00] | Agrajag-: | well have you configured it so it's sending the keys that your app is expecting? |
| [01:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i thought i did |
| [01:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i put a file on the computer for that.. |
| [01:35:00] | Agrajag-: | you put a file on the computer |
| [01:35:00] | Agrajag-: | lol |
| [01:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i didnt feel like configuring it myself at the time |
| [01:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i just wanted to get somethign working |
| [01:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and then worry about it later |
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| [01:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/lircrc-haupgrey-g3.txt |
| [01:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have that file on it |
| [01:37:00] | monkeyBox: | ok, well here's a simpler problem somone might be able to help me with in the meantime: |
| [01:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [01:38:00] | monkeyBox: | my ivtv recordings aren't recording the audio. Does that have to do with the ivtv drivers, or my server's ALSA setup? |
| [01:39:00] | monkeyBox: | I can here audio on older recordings, but not new recordings (since I updated the ivtv drivers). any ideas? |
| [01:39:00] | monkeyBox: | I also can't here audio on livetv |
| [01:41:00] | Agrajag-: | do you have your speakers on? |
| [01:41:00] | Agrajag-: | ;) |
| [01:41:00] | Agrajag-: | you never know |
| [01:41:00] | monkeyBox: | Agrajag-: like I said, I can hear audio on older recordings.. so, yes :-) |
| [01:41:00] | Agrajag-: | anyway don't ivtv based cards put audio straight into the mpeg stream |
| [01:41:00] | Agrajag-: | so i'd say it's a driver issue if that's the case |
| [01:42:00] | monkeyBox: | Agrajag-: that's what I figured.. didn't know if alsa had anything to do w/ it |
| [01:43:00] | monkeyBox: | my wife's gonna kill me. Her show recorded w/o sound :-( |
| [01:44:00] | Agrajag-: | ahaha |
| [01:44:00] | Agrajag-: | i've had similar things happen |
| [01:44:00] | Agrajag-: | i blame it on the crappy aerial we have |
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| [01:46:00] | monkeyBox: | well, it's not a signal problem here. I'm watching cable straight through my TV and audio is fine. |
| [01:46:00] | monkeyBox: | The ivtv drivers are for some reason not recording audio |
| [01:47:00] | mmm: | monkeyBox, you don't here any sound playing the mpg straight? |
| [01:47:00] | monkeyBox: | mmm: nope |
| [01:47:00] | mmm: | heh lame |
| [01:47:00] | mmm: | i never had ap roblem like that with my pvr250 |
| [01:48:00] | mmm: | install ivtv as we speak though |
| [01:48:00] | mmm: | let you know if I have the same prob |
| [01:48:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah it's not a signal problem for me, i just blame it on that so it's then not really my fault :P |
| [01:50:00] | monkeyBox: | I upgraded to the newer ivtv drivers last night.. (0.2.0) |
| [01:50:00] | monkeyBox: | I'm beginning to wish I hadn't :-( |
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| [01:51:00] | mmm: | damn my kernel finished compiling after I was compiling mythtv first for 10 minutes, and mythtv is still going |
| [01:51:00] | mmm: | what a beast |
| [01:51:00] | mmm: | monkeyBox, oh I'm using those too for the first time! |
| [01:51:00] | mmm: | $10 says my sound doesn't work too |
| [01:51:00] | mmm: | heh |
| [01:51:00] | monkeyBox: | do the new ivtv drivers work w/ 2.6 kernel? |
| [01:51:00] | mmm: | I only saw howto's for 2.6 so I assume it does |
| [01:51:00] | monkeyBox: | mmm $20 says your luck's better than mine |
| [01:51:00] | mmm: | I'm using 2.4 personally |
| [01:52:00] | monkeyBox: | ok.. well, I might as well upgrade to 2.6 then... |
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| [01:53:00] | ** mmm uses 2.4 because it's been through a lot of security testing ** | |
| [01:53:00] | mmm: | stuck using 2.6 on my desktop pc though because of SATA |
| [01:54:00] | mmm: | heh anyways, I can't imagine what woudl keep your audio out |
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| [01:54:00] | mmm: | Did you specify which card you are using? |
| [01:54:00] | mmm: | that might be it |
| [01:55:00] | jcii: | MythStream plugin question: After compiling, following instructions in the INSTALL, and editing the library.xml & media_settings.xml files...do I need to run a command to refresh the config? I'm not seeing new buttons after I bounce the front & backend? |
| [01:55:00] | mmm: | and maybe your not using the prefered firmware |
| [01:56:00] | mmm: | jcii, i don't think there's too many mythstream knowledgable people here :) except for monkeybox maybe |
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| [01:56:00] | jcii: | Cool...how about getting plugin stuff though? |
| [01:56:00] | jcii: | Is it known that editing the library.xml and bouncing frontend/backend should reflect changes? |
| [01:57:00] | mmmmm: | back to cleaning I guess |
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| [02:00:00] | rinco: | rtsp support is new? |
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| [02:01:00] | rinco: | i hope it does video |
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| [02:05:00] | xris: | man, it's scary when I could get myself a new computer that's faster than this one for under $300.... |
| [02:05:00] | xris: | granted, it's a crappy dell box, but still. |
| [02:05:00] | rjune: | xris: what do you have? |
| [02:05:00] | xris: | dual athlon 1900 |
| [02:05:00] | rjune: | and what can you get for under 300 that's faster then that? |
| [02:06:00] | xris: | http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config . . . od&s=bsd |
| [02:07:00] | xris: | hah, I love the "cannot be used as a desktop" |
| [02:08:00] | rjune: | xris: shit, I may have to purchase one of those |
| [02:08:00] | rjune: | that's insane |
| [02:08:00] | xris: | rjune: http://aaltonen.us/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2058 |
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| [02:08:00] | kormoc: | what's wrong with that box? |
| [02:09:00] | xris: | not worth it for me, though. once/year or so intel gives us a deal where for $200 we can get a motherboard and proc... and it's whatever is their newest (so I'm hoping that the next one around will be the dual core 64 bit p4's) |
| [02:09:00] | xris: | kormoc: it's crappy in many ways. but it's worth every penny. |
| [02:09:00] | rjune: | better then the 800Mhz athlon I'm using now |
| [02:09:00] | jcii: | so is there anyone here familiar with adding plugins to mythtv? |
| [02:10:00] | xris: | rjune: by far |
| [02:10:00] | kormoc: | pci-e?! |
| [02:10:00] | xris: | dell uses genuine intel motherboards, etc (custom made to remove not-often-needed hardware) |
| [02:11:00] | xris: | kormoc: yes. good specs. |
| [02:11:00] | ** kormoc ponders how hard to get video working on it ** | |
| [02:12:00] | rjune: | kormoc: I would start by installing a pci video card |
| [02:12:00] | xris: | kormoc: read the faq: http://www.aaltonen.us/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1999 |
| [02:12:00] | rinco: | anyone here written a gather script for prismiq to generate a media.xml from recorded_programs ? |
| [02:13:00] | kormoc: | xris, "I think the PCIe Video connector is different, but the MB is the same." <-- i.e. noone knows yet? I'm still working my way though the pages |
| [02:13:00] | rjune: | xris: I think your dual 1900 is better then that one though |
| [02:13:00] | xris: | rjune: 800mhz fsb vs 266mhz |
| [02:14:00] | xris: | dual 1900 vs hyperthreaded 2.8G |
| [02:14:00] | rjune: | xris: all depends on what you're gonna use it for |
| [02:14:00] | xris: | no, it's way faster than mine |
| [02:14:00] | rjune: | HT don't get you much |
| [02:14:00] | xris: | HT gets you PLENTY in linux |
| [02:14:00] | xris: | pretty much everything except for databases is sped up. |
| [02:14:00] | rjune: | I've experiance with HT in the real world. I would trade you my 2.8Ghz HT server for a dual 1900 Athlon in a heartbeat |
| [02:15:00] | xris: | only thing I use the power on my box for is video encoding, and HT helps greatly with that. |
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| [02:15:00] | xris: | pentium is also WAY less power usage than the athlons |
| [02:15:00] | rjune: | that may be. I have a terminal server, the dual 1900 is better for that then HT |
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| [02:15:00] | ** xris throws a trout at mmmmmmmmmmmm for being over-ambitious with the m-key. ** | |
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| [02:16:00] | ** mmmmmmmmmmmm is in #debian and everyone keeps saying my name ** | |
| [02:16:00] | mmmmmmmmmmmm: | first it was mmm |
| [02:16:00] | mmmmmmmmmmmm: | then with was mmmm |
| [02:16:00] | mmmmmmmmmmmm: | now... they'll have to be like mmmmmmmmmmmm to say my name |
| [02:16:00] | xris: | rjune: wouldn't know there.. I've only tested it for encoding speeds (big improvement) and database access (slower for oracle, no real change for mysql) |
| [02:16:00] | kormoc: | m intresting |
| [02:16:00] | xris: | mmmmmm time to get a less common name. heh. |
| [02:17:00] | mmmmmmmmmmmm: | indeed |
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| [02:17:00] | rjune: | xris: difference in what we do, you have threads, I have a large number of processes |
| [02:17:00] | monkeyBox: | hmmmmmmmmmmmm... I think it's time for a new nick :-) |
| [02:17:00] | monkeyBox: | heh |
| [02:17:00] | xris: | rjune: that *should* be the same if the kernel is set up for it (or so I've been told).. since separate processes are separate threads, too. |
| [02:17:00] | xris: | but it likely depends on how the memory is dealt with between them. |
| [02:18:00] | xris: | and that's beyond my knowledge |
| [02:18:00] | ** xris is a mere script writer. ** | |
| [02:18:00] | rjune: | xris: I think it has to do with the number of users too |
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| [02:19:00] | xris: | rjune: could be |
| [02:20:00] | xris: | I don't really know how the kernel deals with such things. |
| [02:20:00] | rjune: | well I would expect forks of the same app to be more like threads then differeent instances of different(or even the same) app |
| [02:20:00] | xris: | yup |
| [02:20:00] | xris: | Beirdo probably knows. he's almost-all knowing. |
| [02:21:00] | rjune: | heh, almost |
| [02:21:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [02:25:00] | rjune: | speak of the devil |
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| [02:31:00] | rjune: | http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config . . . od&s=bsd <-- how cool is this/ |
| [02:33:00] | Beirdo: | wow |
| [02:33:00] | xris: | rjune: now that's cool. but where does it list the processor upgrade? |
| [02:33:00] | rjune: | xris: it doesn't say what it is |
| [02:35:00] | xris: | I'm calling |
| [02:35:00] | rjune: | xris: cool |
| [02:35:00] | rjune: | find out about the harddrive upgrade too |
| [02:36:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [02:36:00] | xris: | rjune: that's the same URL I gave you, right? |
| [02:37:00] | rjune: | xris: oh yeah, hell I forgot I got it here. |
| [02:37:00] | mrplum: | How do I give mythtv user access to my X display? |
| [02:37:00] | mrplum: | err oh f it, this is a dedicate mythtv box now, i'll just log in as mythtv |
| [02:37:00] | mrplum: | n/m! |
| [02:38:00] | xris: | rjune: I hadn't noticed the extra deals before, though |
| [02:38:00] | xris: | mrplum: what does that matter? you can run mythfrontend as any user you want. |
| [02:38:00] | mrplum: | I need to run mythtv-setup |
| [02:39:00] | rinco: | xhost + |
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| [02:39:00] | rinco: | or ssh -X mythtv@localhost mythtv-setup |
| [02:39:00] | mrplum: | hah! |
| [02:39:00] | mrplum: | any host, sweet |
| [02:39:00] | mrplum: | lol, ssh myself, that's a neet trick |
| [02:39:00] | rinco: | my mythtv server is headless... so i dont use localhost |
| [02:40:00] | xris: | man, what a joke. transfered all over. |
| [02:40:00] | mrplum: | so if I run ssh -X will it forward any server back to my current display? |
| [02:40:00] | mrplum: | woh hmm... |
| [02:40:00] | mrplum: | holy fuck |
| [02:40:00] | mrplum: | hehe |
| [02:40:00] | mrplum: | w00t |
| [02:40:00] | rjune: | xris: well duh, they don't want anybody actually purchasing one |
| [02:41:00] | xris: | heh |
| [02:41:00] | xris: | more like too many departments |
| [02:41:00] | xris: | first, I somehow got sent to the "home" department, they sent me to "business" and now I'm talking to "online help" |
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| [02:42:00] | rinco: | mrplum: ps... xhost + will let anyone snoop your xsession, best to not do it on an internet connected machine |
| [02:43:00] | mrplum: | yea caught that any machine anywhere warning |
| [02:43:00] | mrplum: | hehe thanks though |
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| [02:44:00] | mrplum: | oh boo to me, didn't write down my zap2it password |
| [02:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [02:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | make a new account |
| [02:45:00] | xris: | ok, so basically, that system is an "outrageous" deal, but the free extras are only available on "normal" deals of that same system |
| [02:46:00] | rjune: | so the free upgrades are a crock? |
| [02:46:00] | JohnnyQuest: | nothing inthe world is free |
| [02:47:00] | rjune: | JohnnyQuest: I use the word free loosely |
| [02:47:00] | xris: | rjune: http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config . . . in&s=bsd |
| [02:47:00] | xris: | it's $11 more |
| [02:47:00] | xris: | same proc, though |
| [02:47:00] | mrplum: | LOL! |
| [02:47:00] | rinco: | so nobody here uses a prismiq with a mythtv backend? |
| [02:47:00] | mrplum: | I just bought that machine |
| [02:47:00] | mrplum: | the SC420 |
| [02:48:00] | mrplum: | using it right now, got it today |
| [02:48:00] | xris: | mrplum: cool |
| [02:48:00] | mrplum: | I'm in love |
| [02:48:00] | xris: | rjune: so basically, for $11 more, you get a second 80G drive. |
| [02:48:00] | rjune: | not bad |
| [02:48:00] | mrplum: | (was $250 last week) |
| [02:48:00] | rjune: | I might be able to talk my wife into that one |
| [02:48:00] | mrplum: | still a good deal |
| [02:48:00] | xris: | nope, pretty good deal (granted, I can get as many refurb 80G drives as I want at work for like $20 apiece) |
| [02:48:00] | mrplum: | :-O |
| [02:49:00] | xris: | the price hangs around that price point all the time. cheap server, good deal. |
| [02:49:00] | xris: | I'm personally shopping for something lower-power (as in wattage), though. |
| [02:49:00] | rjune: | xris: that's on 40G and one 80G |
| [02:49:00] | mrplum: | didn't have much luck getting any i810 vid drivers working on it, but VESA works so good I don't know why I'd bother |
| [02:49:00] | mrplum: | damn is it quiet |
| [02:49:00] | rjune: | mrplum: depends on what you're wanting to use it for |
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| [02:50:00] | rjune: | xris: http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config . . . in&s=bsd <-- dual 80G drives |
| [02:50:00] | xris: | rjune: well, add $10 to get the first one as 80G |
| [02:50:00] | rinco: | vesa works slow |
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| [02:50:00] | rjune: | rinco: if it's a server in a closet, who cares? |
| [02:50:00] | mrplum: | trudat, I decided to use it as a desktop though |
| [02:50:00] | xris: | would make a killer mythbackend. |
| [02:50:00] | mrplum: | something about them saying DO NOT USE as a desktop really erked me |
| [02:50:00] | rjune: | indeed |
| [02:50:00] | xris: | mrplum: should work fine with a pci-E video card, though. |
| [02:51:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [02:51:00] | mrplum: | yea, and it's got PCI-E how cool |
| [02:52:00] | rinco: | rjune: if its a server in a closet, why bother setting up video at all |
| [02:57:00] | mrplum: | ah no free shipping, bummer, wonder how much that goes for |
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| [03:06:00] | rjune: | rinco: just to install |
| [03:06:00] | rjune: | though sles will do vnc install wich is slick |
| [03:06:00] | rjune: | dinner time chicken with teriyaki sauce on the grill |
| [03:07:00] | ** rjune is away: chicken teriyaki cooked on the grill ** | |
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| [03:09:00] | rinco: | what's sles |
| [03:15:00] | monkeyBox: | anyone know why I wouldn't be getting any sound from my PVR-250 recordings? |
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| [03:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | cuz its broken |
| [03:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | :P |
| [03:16:00] | monkeyBox: | bleh |
| [03:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you havnt got that fixed all day and i still cant get mythtv to work with my remote |
| [03:17:00] | mrplum: | heh woh |
| [03:17:00] | mrplum: | mythfrontend just f`d my vide |
| [03:17:00] | mrplum: | hehe |
| [03:17:00] | mrplum: | nice |
| [03:17:00] | monkeyBox: | vide? |
| [03:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what did it do to it? |
| [03:18:00] | mrplum: | it went all scambly, then x restarted |
| [03:19:00] | mrplum: | i'll know more when I try it again |
| [03:19:00] | mrplum: | maybe it was a fluke |
| [03:19:00] | JohnnyQuest: | hopefully |
| [03:19:00] | JohnnyQuest: | hve you used mythtv before? |
| [03:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | anyone know why i cant get lirc to work in myth or mplayer but it shows up in the terminal? |
| [03:20:00] | mrplum: | heh nope, haven't gotten that far yet, still tring to start mythtv :-P |
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| [03:25:00] | mrplum: | hmm works now kinda, but all I get is static |
| [03:26:00] | mrplum: | must have the drivers setup wrong |
| [03:26:00] | ** [Xander] wondering if mythstream is going to work it's way into the 'standard' plugins that are in the main myth distribution... ** | |
| [03:27:00] | mrplum: | hah! my problem is in the FAQ, go figure |
| [03:27:00] | mrplum: | there are others like me |
| [03:27:00] | mrplum: | <- retarded |
| [03:27:00] | [Xander]: | mrplum: join the crowd! |
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| [03:28:00] | mrplum: | I didn't set any module options, duh. now if I can only find where in the wiki it tells me what optinos to set i'll be good |
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| [03:28:00] | [Xander]: | does anyone know if the PVRx50's are anywhere near getting closed caption supported? I REALLY need that as I am hard of hearing. |
| [03:29:00] | mrplum: | they don't have that? |
| [03:29:00] | mrplum: | who would have thunken |
| [03:29:00] | mrplum: | there usually trying to sell you shit anyways |
| [03:29:00] | mrplum: | just pretend! |
| [03:29:00] | [Xander]: | i think they are getting close on ivtv supporting CC, but mythtv not supporting ivtv flavor of CC (from what I hear) |
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| [03:30:00] | [Xander]: | it's difficult to watch my programs without CC. I can't make out the dialog. |
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| [03:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | [Xander]: It doesn't support it, but Sara was looking at adding support for it so you never know |
| [03:32:00] | [Xander]: | that's what she said the other night... |
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| [03:34:00] | [Xander]: | I know it CAN do CC, because the card in a Win box does CC. so it's just a matter of coding. |
| [03:36:00] | mrplum: | damn still static |
| [03:36:00] | [Xander]: | mrplum: from my experience, static is from incorrect tuner selection |
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| [03:37:00] | mrplum: | yep I agree with that, but I'm doing what I believe it "should" be |
| [03:37:00] | [Xander]: | what card? |
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| [03:37:00] | mrplum: | pvr250 |
| [03:37:00] | [Xander]: | what tuner? |
| [03:38:00] | mrplum: | phillips I think? not sure honestly |
| [03:38:00] | mrplum: | tuner 2 |
| [03:38:00] | mrplum: | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-newtarsier-11/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx25840.o |
| [03:38:00] | mrplum: | wonder if thats aprob |
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| [03:38:00] | [Xander]: | don't think the 250 is a type 2 tuner |
| [03:39:00] | [Xander]: | is that what you see in ivtv from dmesg? |
| [03:39:00] | mrplum: | I see that when I depmod -a |
| [03:39:00] | mrplum: | but I don't think I need it |
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| [03:39:00] | LostSole: | hhhmmm... Hey GeckoFiend, are you around? |
| [03:40:00] | mrplum: | oh well maybe I should leave it default, says it gets it from the eeprom |
| [03:40:00] | mrplum: | i HAD it on the default before and it didn't work |
| [03:41:00] | [Xander]: | have you tried running knoppmyth and letting it detect everything, then checking what it found against what you are using in your distro? |
| [03:41:00] | [Xander]: | I found that to be helpful |
| [03:41:00] | mrplum: | there doesn't appear to be a tuner module loaded |
| [03:41:00] | mrplum: | wonder if that went away with 2.0 |
| [03:42:00] | [Xander]: | i still have tuner |
| [03:42:00] | mrplum: | jees that scared me. we've been having weird cable problems tonight |
| [03:43:00] | mrplum: | tv goes static |
| [03:43:00] | [Xander]: | I got warnings about removing the kernel's msp3400 so that the ivtv version would be used... |
| [03:43:00] | mrplum: | I thought it was me at first |
| [03:43:00] | mrplum: | happened as soon as I rmmod ivtv |
| [03:43:00] | mrplum: | hehe, did it again though and didn' thappen |
| [03:43:00] | mrplum: | ah I didn't get that this time around, lemme find that |
| [03:43:00] | [Xander]: | what linux you using? |
| [03:44:00] | mrplum: | debian of course |
| [03:44:00] | [Xander]: | ahh i'm on gentoo64 |
| [03:45:00] | mrplum: | hmmm |
| [03:45:00] | mrplum: | i wonder why I can't find tuner module |
| [03:45:00] | [Xander]: | i would try knoppmyth and see what tuner it comes up with... you don't even have to write anything to the HD, just boot from cd and run. |
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| [03:46:00] | [Xander]: | rmmod all the ivtv stuff, then try to modprobe it and then check dmesg to see if it is complaining. |
| [03:46:00] | mrplum: | i'm way to stubborn for that |
| [03:47:00] | [Xander]: | modules-update? |
| [03:47:00] | mrplum: | nope it's not building it |
| [03:47:00] | mrplum: | I never get a tuner.o to begin with |
| [03:47:00] | [Xander]: | gmm |
| [03:47:00] | [Xander]: | hmm |
| [03:48:00] | mrplum: | hehe |
| [03:48:00] | mrplum: | i did make tuner, and it got mad |
| [03:48:00] | mrplum: | all kidns of media/audiochip.h missing, etc etc |
| [03:50:00] | mrplum: | i almost want to try 3.0 to see if it works |
| [03:51:00] | [Xander]: | i'm on ivtv 0.3.6g |
| [03:51:00] | [Xander]: | what 3.0 are you talking about? |
| [03:51:00] | mrplum: | i just want it to work though :) stable means a lot |
| [03:51:00] | mrplum: | maybe it's 0.3, I'm dislexic |
| [03:51:00] | [Xander]: | ahh |
| [03:51:00] | mrplum: | i'm on 0.2 now I guess |
| [03:51:00] | [Xander]: | 0.3x seems WAY more stable to me.. (for my machine anyway) |
| [03:52:00] | mrplum: | fine you convinced me |
| [03:52:00] | mrplum: | twisted my leg |
| [03:52:00] | [Xander]: | i'm on an amd64 so EVERYTHING is unstable versions for me ;) |
| [03:52:00] | mrplum: | what card are you using? |
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| [03:52:00] | [Xander]: | this box is a 350 |
| [03:52:00] | [Xander]: | i have 2 150's in the box in the basement (x86) |
| [03:53:00] | mrplum: | i'm going for 3.6n!!!! |
| [03:53:00] | mrplum: | that's liike 7 letters more then you |
| [03:53:00] | [Xander]: | i'd like all 3 in ONE backend box, but i'm leary to take the jump to try to get them all running together nicely. |
| [03:54:00] | [Xander]: | i just put in g like 2 nights ago... they are all the way up to N now? |
| [03:54:00] | mrplum: | heh nope didn't make the tuner here either, I must not need it |
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| [03:54:00] | [Xander]: | hmmm |
| [03:54:00] | mrplum: | heh I know that's not true |
| [03:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | Where exactly are you looking for the tuner module ? |
| [03:55:00] | mrplum: | I type make in ./drivers directory |
| [03:55:00] | mrplum: | and see no tuner.ko |
| [03:55:00] | [Xander]: | i had problems with tuner etc not being made, but it wasn't because i didn't need them... i had something screwed up |
| [03:55:00] | [Xander]: | can't rem what now though |
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| [03:55:00] | mrplum: | oh now you tell me |
| [03:55:00] | mrplum: | maybe I'm missing some libraries |
| [03:56:00] | rinco: | its hard to be missing libs if you do it the debian way [tm] |
| [03:56:00] | [Xander]: | that wasn't what i had... maybe it was a version conflict or something... can't quite remember |
| [03:56:00] | mrplum: | wish the debian way would with sarge release |
| [03:56:00] | mrplum: | half the stuff seems to be connected to ubuntu or sid, can't tell which |
| [03:56:00] | mrplum: | ohh err |
| [03:56:00] | mrplum: | is there ivtv debian? |
| [03:56:00] | [Xander]: | gentoo :) emerge -pv ivtv |
| [03:56:00] | mrplum: | i feel like an ass |
| [03:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | mrplum: Do you see errors in the make output with regards to compiling the tuner module ? |
| [03:57:00] | mrplum: | it doesn't even try |
| [03:57:00] | mrplum: | I think it may not be detecting my kernel right |
| [03:57:00] | mrplum: | jsut noticed theres a 2.6 and 2.4, I forced the 2.4 see what happens |
| [03:58:00] | mrplum: | nope didn't help :) |
| [03:58:00] | [Xander]: | or your firmware |
| [03:58:00] | [Xander]: | on debian do you have to extract out a firmware from the driver cd? |
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| [03:58:00] | mrplum: | I extract it from the firmware on their website, but yes |
| [03:58:00] | mrplum: | done that. |
| [03:59:00] | mrplum: | it doesn't compile the tuner, it's like it's smart enough to know I have no media/audiochip.h |
| [03:59:00] | [Xander]: | i'd check ivtv website because they list some 'newer' firmware for some stuff.. not sure about the 250 |
| [03:59:00] | mrplum: | because when I ask it to compile the tuner it yells about that |
| [03:59:00] | mrplum: | although the driver folder has that file. I wonder if it's just confused |
| [03:59:00] | ** mrplum edits the tuner.c ** | |
| [03:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | mrplum: I assume you have a Kbuild file in that directory ? |
| [04:00:00] | mrplum: | yup |
| [04:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | That should have a line that defines the tuner module shoiuld be compiled |
| [04:01:00] | JohnnyQuest: | has anyone here used pluto? |
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| [04:02:00] | [Xander]: | off to build the 0.3.6n ivtv :) |
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| [04:02:00] | mrplum: | silly thing just doesn't want to go |
| [04:02:00] | JohnnyQuest: | when was that released? |
| [04:02:00] | mrplum: | even if I force it to build tuner |
| [04:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never used the .3.x drivers, but I just tried a test compile and it looks like it at least compiled |
| [04:03:00] | mrplum: | I must be missing something in my main kernel maybe |
| [04:03:00] | mrplum: | or maybe a module I should load |
| [04:03:00] | rinco: | you should use debian kernels, i find they always work |
| [04:04:00] | rinco: | or at least build kernels using make-kpkg |
| [04:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im using the pvr-150 |
| [04:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | so the .3.x drivers might be good for me |
| [04:04:00] | mrplum: | I use make-kpkg, but along with hard drive encryption so I end up doing it myself |
| [04:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im actually gonna try this pluto thing i found |
| [04:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it has specific support for the chipset on the pvr-150 |
| [04:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and it comes with mythtv |
| [04:05:00] | mrplum: | do I need to compile v4l2 maybe? |
| [04:06:00] | mrplum: | i have just normal V4L |
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| [04:09:00] | rtsai: | make-kpkg rocks |
| [04:09:00] | mrplum: | wth is wrong with ivtv |
| [04:09:00] | mrplum: | this is so annoying |
| [04:09:00] | JohnnyQuest: | rtsai, have you heard of pluto? |
| [04:09:00] | JohnnyQuest: | like the linux distro? |
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| [04:12:00] | mrplum: | i wodner if it's mad because it's not compiled as amodule and it's static |
| [04:13:00] | LostSole: | JohnnyQuest: got a URL for that? |
| [04:15:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [04:15:00] | rtsai: | never heard of it, why ask me? |
| [04:15:00] | mrplum: | it builds tveeprom! |
| [04:15:00] | mrplum: | :-P |
| [04:15:00] | JohnnyQuest: | http://plutohome.com/ |
| [04:15:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it looks really good |
| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it has blackbird drivers |
| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im gonna install it |
| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and then if i dont get it to wokr |
| [04:16:00] | rtsai: | oh i've seen that. That's not really a linux *distro*, right? |
| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | go back to fc3 |
| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | not really.. |
| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its more like knoppmyth |
| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but not jsut for mythtv |
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| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im gonna try it |
| [04:16:00] | rtsai: | i'll stick with debian/ubuntu, I haven't really identified any deficiencies with them (vs. RH and Slack). |
| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it has its own os and everything |
| [04:16:00] | mrplum: | 1.9 here I come |
| [04:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ive had so much trouble with my card being poor quality |
| [04:17:00] | LostSole: | JohnnyQuest: wow, interesting. |
| [04:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | iwanna try something else |
| [04:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | just to see if it works |
| [04:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im a college kid on my summer break which means taking 10 credit hours and working... |
| [04:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but i have time to dink around iwth this |
| [04:17:00] | mrplum: | it's gotta be that I need v4l2, guess I'll have to find some kernel patch for that |
| [04:18:00] | LostSole: | JohnnyQuest: Ah, the good ol' days. :) Nothing like a slow summer to get projects like that going. |
| [04:19:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [04:19:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im starting to wonder if i should do computer engineering or computer science.. |
| [04:19:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i use computers soo much.. |
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| [04:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but then again, im still also designing a case for this outta fiber glass and foam that will be quite and run cool an smaller, so mechanical engineering is still close to what i do |
| [04:20:00] | rtsai: | I have 2 x HD-3000; I don't understand why people still futz around with ivtv cards |
| [04:20:00] | rtsai: | I guess I don't watch cable TV |
| [04:20:00] | mrplum: | $$ |
| [04:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what do you watch rtsai? |
| [04:21:00] | mrplum: | porn porn porn |
| [04:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [04:21:00] | mrplum: | oh I was talking about me |
| [04:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thats what i2hub is for... |
| [04:21:00] | mrplum: | i2hub? |
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| [04:21:00] | mrplum: | porn? |
| [04:21:00] | mrplum: | what? explain more |
| [04:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i2hub can only be accessed from on a university |
| [04:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it uses internet 2...well it uses that to authenticate you |
| [04:22:00] | LostSole: | rtsai: quick question then – I've got my sound from my HD3k coming in through my line-in, and trying to figure out how to get it directly through the card.... |
| [04:22:00] | LostSole: | rtsai: know of anything to go read or search for to help get that going? |
| [04:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, you download on i2hub at a few mb a second if you find the right host of the file you want |
| [04:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ive gotten a 7mb/sec dl on there |
| [04:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its pretty cool |
| [04:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its a dc++ based program |
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| [04:26:00] | rtsai: | JohnnyQuest: (bad) network TV: 24, CSI, L&O, Las Vegas. I actually spend more time hacking than I do watching TV, lol. |
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| [04:27:00] | rtsai: | JohnnyQuest: actually, I'm just too cheap to pay for cable TV. |
| [04:27:00] | rtsai: | I pay $8/mo for basic service; next step up is $50/mo |
| [04:28:00] | rtsai: | LostSole: I don't understand your question. I have my HD-3000 connection to UHF antenna. On-board sound outputs via SPDIF to my audio receiver (FX5200 outputs DVI to my TV). |
| [04:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | hacking what? |
| [04:28:00] | rtsai: | mythtv problems that seem to bother only me and no one else :P |
| [04:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | like? |
| [04:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im sure they bother others, we just cant fixthem |
| [04:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im upset, i had a samba mount ealrier taht worked, and now it doesnt :( |
| [04:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i wish i ahd a script that set it up everytime i turned the computer on or off |
| [04:29:00] | mrplum: | I'm dying here, did anyone else have to patch their kernel for v4l2? |
| [04:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | mrplum, i dont even know what that is.. |
| [04:30:00] | mchou: | rtsai: where do you kive that you pay $8 for basic? |
| [04:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my suggestion for an easy myth install would be fc3 |
| [04:30:00] | mchou: | live* |
| [04:30:00] | rtsai: | auto-transcoding, for people who don't use ivtv |
| [04:30:00] | rtsai: | boston |
| [04:30:00] | rtsai: | $8/mo basic analog cable. network-tv + cspan + 10 channels of infomercials |
| [04:30:00] | mchou: | rtsai: is that basic as in channels <30? |
| [04:31:00] | rtsai: | heh, channels < 30, "useful" channels < 13 |
| [04:31:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [04:31:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have digital cable |
| [04:31:00] | mchou: | or it includes stuff like discovery, etc.? |
| [04:31:00] | JohnnyQuest: | with like 30 movie channels |
| [04:31:00] | rtsai: | no way |
| [04:31:00] | JohnnyQuest: | about 13 useful channels |
| [04:31:00] | rtsai: | i wasn't kidding. I get like 10 flavors of home shopping network |
| [04:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i pay 50 a month but that inclues internet |
| [04:32:00] | mchou: | rtsai: who is cableco where you live? |
| [04:32:00] | rtsai: | comcast |
| [04:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | the worst internet ever...comcast.. |
| [04:32:00] | rtsai: | although i was pleasantly surprised to discover cartoon network. They must have accidentally turned it on or something. |
| [04:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [04:32:00] | rtsai: | I like my internet (also comcast); 4Mbps download |
| [04:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | aquateen hunger force!! |
| [04:32:00] | mchou: | rtsai: ok. Yours may be a bit cheaper than CA. (same cableco) |
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| [04:33:00] | rtsai: | I might get a PVR just for toons |
| [04:33:00] | rtsai: | ghost in shell, justice league, aw yeah |
| [04:33:00] | JohnnyQuest: | rtsai, u watch athf? |
| [04:33:00] | mchou: | rtsai: how much do you end up paying for cable inet? |
| [04:33:00] | mrplum: | answered my own question kind, makefile copies the required files for v4l2 |
| [04:34:00] | rtsai: | cable internet just like anywhere else; $40–50/mo |
| [04:34:00] | mchou: | rtsai: wow, steep in Boston :) |
| [04:35:00] | mchou: | rtsai: I pay $20+$12 (inet+"limited basic") |
| [04:36:00] | mchou: | excluding taxes..... |
| [04:36:00] | rtsai: | where is that? |
| [04:36:00] | mchou: | silicon valley in CA. |
| [04:36:00] | LostSole: | JohnnyQuest: have you caught the Venture Brothers? |
| [04:37:00] | rtsai: | haha, fancy that. Someone in SV complaing about something being "steep". |
| [04:37:00] | rtsai: | I lived in Santa Clara a few years ago |
| [04:37:00] | mchou: | rtsai: I've never seen ayone pay more than $30 for (home) inet here..... |
| [04:37:00] | mchou: | anyone* |
| [04:37:00] | rtsai: | I'm surprised. Everyone's work pays for internet, Comcast should jack up the prices. |
| [04:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | no |
| [04:38:00] | mchou: | rtsai: they are copeting against SBC :) |
| [04:38:00] | xris: | I thought that comcast was $45+/month everywhere. |
| [04:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | the only times i watch cartoon network are when im really messed up... |
| [04:38:00] | mchou: | competing* |
| [04:38:00] | rtsai: | toons rawk |
| [04:38:00] | LostSole: | JohnnyQuest: with a nickname like yours, you probably should. :) |
| [04:38:00] | ** rtsai misses Samurai jack ** | |
| [04:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | the nickname isnt from the tvshow.. |
| [04:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | that is spelled jonnyquest |
| [04:38:00] | mchou: | rtsai: where about in Boston are ya? |
| [04:39:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its actually from a song |
| [04:39:00] | rtsai: | Boston |
| [04:39:00] | xris: | rtsai: yeah, it won so many awards, and yet they don't make it anymore. sucks. |
| [04:39:00] | rtsai: | not some crappy Stephen-King suburb. |
| [04:39:00] | mchou: | rtsai: heh, not Cambridge? :) |
| [04:39:00] | rtsai: | feh |
| [04:39:00] | rtsai: | "Do you like apples?" |
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| [04:39:00] | rtsai: | "How do ya like dem apples?" |
| [04:40:00] | mchou: | rtsai: southie? |
| [04:40:00] | mchou: | wow |
| [04:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im gonna be signing off...wish me luck installing pluto :/ |
| [04:40:00] | rtsai: | mchou: my name is "rtsai"; you think i'm a southie?!? :) |
| [04:40:00] | rtsai: | immigrant |
| [04:40:00] | rtsai: | (me) |
| [04:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what is rtsai? |
| [04:40:00] | mrplum: | hah so is that from that movie? |
| [04:40:00] | mchou: | rtsai: no, the neighborhood, dude |
| [04:40:00] | rtsai: | heh |
| [04:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what is a southie? |
| [04:40:00] | mrplum: | err err |
| [04:41:00] | mrplum: | damnit! brain fart |
| [04:41:00] | mrplum: | I love it when he's like I want to move to Nashua and work on a cattle ranch |
| [04:41:00] | mrplum: | it's like have you ever been to nashua? |
| [04:41:00] | rtsai: | mchou: back bay; you know this town? |
| [04:41:00] | mrplum: | i don't think cattle survive within 20 miles of nashua |
| [04:41:00] | mchou: | rtsai: hehe, went to MIT :) |
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| [04:41:00] | rtsai: | new hampshire is the south of the north :) |
| [04:41:00] | mrplum: | :-P |
| [04:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i live in florida |
| [04:41:00] | mrplum: | w00t NH |
| [04:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thats the north of the south |
| [04:42:00] | mchou: | rtsai: is boston a mess still w big dig? |
| [04:42:00] | rtsai: | (i can say that because I used to be amongst rednecks in Louisiana, Florida ain't got nuthin') |
| [04:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | we have a bunch of old people that are from the north... |
| [04:42:00] | rtsai: | florida has old people from everywhere |
| [04:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | even worse for me cuz im in St. Petersburg, which is like all old people |
| [04:42:00] | rtsai: | heh, i've been there |
| [04:43:00] | rtsai: | and clearwater, scientology capital USA |
| [04:43:00] | mchou: | rtsai: you mean florida is civilized by comparison :) |
| [04:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i go to school in orlando at UCF |
| [04:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | why were you at the scientology capital? |
| [04:43:00] | mchou: | central floriday, heh |
| [04:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | u in that cult? |
| [04:43:00] | mchou: | Summers suck in florida. |
| [04:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya they do |
| [04:44:00] | rtsai: | the college in the Louisiana town I grew up had to evacuate a section of campus to take care of an alligator in some fountain. Top that, Florida :) |
| [04:44:00] | mrplum: | why couldn't someone put in the wiki the kernel modules you need!!! ugh! |
| [04:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | today was 88ish |
| [04:44:00] | mchou: | T storms, and it rains more than seattle. |
| [04:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | we cant count our balllots? |
| [04:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [04:44:00] | rtsai: | JohnnyQuest: visiting Dali digs |
| [04:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | we do have tstorms everyday |
| [04:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and when we dont, its 90 degrees |
| [04:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | or higher |
| [04:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thats down the street from me |
| [04:45:00] | rtsai: | "but it's a dry heat!" |
| [04:45:00] | mchou: | JohnnyQuest: soon you willl get hurricanes too :) |
| [04:45:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and we have a boat at the marina next to it |
| [04:45:00] | JohnnyQuest: | not its not |
| [04:45:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its a humid heat |
| [04:45:00] | rtsai: | Louisiana is humid. |
| [04:45:00] | JohnnyQuest: | our humidity is 80% and up everyday |
| [04:45:00] | JohnnyQuest: | usually 100 |
| [04:45:00] | rtsai: | meh. Try 90–100% every day |
| [04:45:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thats what we have |
| [04:45:00] | mchou: | yeah, florida weather sux big time. |
| [04:45:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its nice win the winter |
| [04:45:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its like 60–70 |
| [04:46:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i gotta go get this pluto crap installing....hopefully it works well |
| [04:46:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i havnt heard of anyone using it |
| [04:46:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ill hop on irc on my windows |
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| [04:49:00] | mrplum: | ohhhhhhhhhhh |
| [04:49:00] | mrplum: | iit's not compiling bttv |
| [04:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i love being on my windows sooo much more than that old crappy computer |
| [04:49:00] | mrplum: | it doesn't even give me that as an option, it's hidden |
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| [04:52:00] | ** KarlosII goes bananas ** | |
| [04:53:00] | ** mrplum too ** | |
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| [04:56:00] | JohnnyQuest: | why does mythtv support ivtv so much? |
| [04:56:00] | mrplum: | because I love it |
| [04:56:00] | mrplum: | just for me |
| [04:56:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you love ivtv? |
| [04:57:00] | mrplum: | yep, I'm hating make-kpkg at the moment though |
| [04:57:00] | mrplum: | it seems to have done some i2c and lm-sensors patch |
| [04:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what is that? |
| [04:57:00] | Chutt: | uh, because there are very few hardware encoder cards, and that's the driver for the most popular type? |
| [04:57:00] | rtsai: | make-kpkg rawks |
| [04:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [04:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im trying another type.. |
| [04:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im gonna see how it goes.. |
| [04:57:00] | mrplum: | make-kpkg clean f`d me, got rid of all my applied patches! well jsut the files that tell me whats applied |
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| [05:00:00] | rtsai: | i guess i've never had to patch my kernel with something. Everything i need is already in there |
| [05:01:00] | mrplum: | yea im getting tired/irritated, probably something simple |
| [05:01:00] | rtsai: | are your kernels from kernel.org? |
| [05:01:00] | mrplum: | <- should sleep on it |
| [05:01:00] | mrplum: | but I'm not going to |
| [05:01:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im too new to linux to ever do anyth9ing like that.. |
| [05:01:00] | mrplum: | there from debian |
| [05:01:00] | mrplum: | i've done this a million times, and even installed my pvr card a few times |
| [05:02:00] | mrplum: | verified all the patches are there, I know what's wrong. I need the bttv driver to compile tuner for me. |
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| [05:02:00] | mrplum: | but somethings fudged it and its not showing up, I don't have the right combinatino of stuff checked |
| [05:06:00] | mrplum: | I'm going to be pissed if it's because I didn't compile it as a module. *sigh* |
| [05:10:00] | mrplum: | well I'm not an IVTV/Myth kernel expert |
| [05:10:00] | mrplum: | anyone ever has any questions... |
| [05:10:00] | mrplum: | :) |
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| [05:14:00] | monkeyBox: | dammit.. I can't get alsa to work on my server... Would that make sound not work on my recordings? |
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| [05:16:00] | iggy: | monkeyBox: only if you have an audio patch cable |
| [05:16:00] | monkeyBox: | hmm.. nope. For some reason my recordings aren't recording any sound |
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| [05:18:00] | iggy: | monkeyBox: what card? |
| [05:18:00] | monkeyBox: | pvr 250 |
| [05:18:00] | monkeyBox: | using ivtv 0.2.0 drivers |
| [05:18:00] | iggy: | do you have the correct msp3400 module installed and loading? |
| [05:20:00] | monkeyBox: | iggy.. I think so, although I'm not 100% sure it's the correct one. I had previously installed ivtv 0.1.9 from the .tar.gz, And later installed 0.2.0 using gentoo ebuild. |
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| [05:24:00] | iggy: | monkeyBox: in dmesg, it should say something about being the itvtv version of the msp3400 module |
| [05:25:00] | monkeyBox: | ok. I just reverted back to 0.1.9 and sound works again.. but I'll check that next time I upgrade :-p |
| [05:26:00] | monkeyBox: | thanks for the help though, I've been trying to figure that out for hours :-p |
| [05:27:00] | iggy: | if 0.1.9 works, why upgrade? |
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| [05:28:00] | monkeyBox: | well, I have problems every once in awhile with the quality going on the fritz; I get these wierd lines and colors, and I have to switch the input back and forth for it to go back to normal.. I figured I'd give the upgrade a try. |
| [05:29:00] | monkeyBox: | but I might try the upgrade again later and make sure the msp3400 is the right version |
| [05:30:00] | iggy: | I forget exactly what it says, but this should find it: dmesg | grep msp.*ivtv.*version |
| [05:30:00] | iggy: | maybe throw a -i in that grep for good measure |
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| [06:19:00] | Moe_: | looking for any aussies that can help me setup tv_grab_au. In mythtv-setup under channel editor the channels are displaying correctly, i have also run mythfilldatabase. When I run mythfrontend and enter program guide its balnk nothing there...how can i get a program guide to display |
| [06:19:00] | Moe_: | ? |
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| [06:20:00] | Agrajag-: | what tv_grab_au are you using? |
| [06:21:00] | Moe_: | http://www.onlinetractorparts.com.au/rohbags/xmltvau/ &n dash; tv_grab_au_0.6.2 |
| [06:21:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm that's the d1 one which is ok but doesn't get descriptions stuff |
| [06:21:00] | Agrajag-: | there's been a few posted to the mailing list |
| [06:22:00] | Agrajag-: | the one i use is here |
| [06:22:00] | Agrajag-: | http://home.whatsbeef.net:1339/~filip/tv_grab_au |
| [06:22:00] | Agrajag-: | so either search the mailing list for recent aussie xml grabbers or use that (works fine for me, and i've added abc2 and sbs news) |
| [06:23:00] | Agrajag-: | to run that one do |
| [06:23:00] | Agrajag-: | something like /home/filip/tv_grab_au --output=/home/filip/tv_grab_au_cache/guide.xml && /usr/local/bin/mythfilldatabase --file 1 -1 /home/filip/tv_grab_au_cache/guide.xml |
| [06:25:00] | Agrajag-: | you'll want to edit the top of the script and set your location and cache dir and stuff |
| [06:28:00] | Moe_: | thx I am running the script now..says queue complete just waiting for it to continue |
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| [07:38:00] | xris: | man, commercial detection is so much better with mpeg cards than with software encoders. |
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| [09:16:00] | fryfrog: | anyone around and know what package the "as" command comes from? rpm or deb name would be enough |
| [09:16:00] | fryfrog: | or ebuild if anyone knows, but i couldn't figure it out from a working gentoo system |
| [09:22:00] | johnp_: | binutils ? |
| [09:27:00] | bin-doph: | qpkg -f /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/binutils-bin/2.15.92.0.2/as |
| [09:27:00] | bin-doph: | sys-devel/binutils * |
| [09:33:00] | gnarface: | binutils or fileutils |
| [09:33:00] | gnarface: | probably |
| [09:33:00] | gnarface: | binutils-2.13.90.0.18–9 |
| [09:33:00] | gnarface: | or later |
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| [09:46:00] | Majestic12: | Reinstalled Knoppix myth w pvr-150 but still tuner sees nothing but static anyone have an idea |
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| [09:57:00] | Majestic12: | anyone know anything about "extracting the firmware" for PVR-x50s? |
| [09:58:00] | Peit|work: | see the ivtv docs |
| [09:58:00] | Peit|work: | ivtv.sourceforge iirc |
| [09:58:00] | Majestic12: | ok thnks |
| [10:16:00] | the-FoX: | does anyone knows how to reconfigure ir-control keys mapping ? |
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| [14:30:00] | Majestic12: | I keep geting an error can't talk to the backend server but the servers 127.0.0.1 |
| [14:31:00] | epoch: | that's probably because mythbackend isnt running |
| [14:31:00] | Majestic12: | how do you start it |
| [14:31:00] | epoch: | you type mythbackend |
| [14:31:00] | epoch: | (then press enter) ;) |
| [14:31:00] | Majestic12: | ok |
| [14:33:00] | Majestic12: | yea that seems to work wonder why it wasnt running |
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| [14:33:00] | epoch: | I recommend running it as mythbackend -d -l /var/log/myth.log |
| [14:33:00] | epoch: | then you can check /var/log/myth.log to see what's going on :) |
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| [15:07:00] | rinco: | anyone using mythstreamtv under debian? |
| [15:08:00] | rinco: | i'm getting many errors like these... ps demuxer warning: garbage at input |
| [15:08:00] | rinco: | i've read that this may indicate libdvbpsi isnt compiled in... but debian seems to rely on libdvbpsi for vlc |
| [15:08:00] | rinco: | so is it worthwhile building vlc from scratch? |
| [15:13:00] | CyberKnet: | *shrug*. I dunno. I never used vlc |
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| [15:16:00] | CyberKnet: | Well, I have power back on at home, but geez... no cable yet. And when the power went out it seems to have taken out: my printer, scanner, cable modem, router, speakers and xbox. And I havent tested everything yet :| |
| [15:17:00] | CyberKnet: | the PAP2 survived somehow though. |
| [15:18:00] | laga: | PAP2? |
| [15:20:00] | CyberKnet: | ATA |
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| [15:42:00] | Majestic12: | ok reinstalled knopmyth but when I try to watch tv all I get is static any ideas? |
| [15:43:00] | jonK: | is the cable plugged in? |
| [15:44:00] | Majestic12: | yes checked it |
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| [17:03:00] | NeoFc: | anyone here have experience with pinacle pctv stereo card? |
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| [17:19:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | thank GOD it's Friday |
| [17:20:00] | laga: | ack |
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| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | laga: not fair, your day is already over |
| [17:20:00] | laga: | yeah, i've already had my first beer |
| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | $45.56 on my adsense.... |
| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | come ON, adsense, you bitch |
| [17:21:00] | laga: | heh |
| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | you had your morning beer? |
| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:21:00] | laga: | no, my stomach is very sensitive – i like vodka with orange juice in the morning |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | Mmm |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | or just vodka |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | makes a good morning drink if you have nothing to do that day |
| [17:22:00] | kormoc: | Vodka + oj = breakfast of champains. |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | vodka + ice |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | screw the OJ :) |
| [17:22:00] | laga: | or vodka with milk if you can't sleep at nice |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | ewww |
| [17:22:00] | kormoc: | but but but, I like getting some vitimans :) |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | with milk? |
| [17:22:00] | kormoc: | Milk + vodka = white russian |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | use whisky |
| [17:23:00] | kormoc: | well, cheap or low fat white russian |
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| [17:23:00] | kormoc: | add kelulah and you get a black russian |
| [17:23:00] | Beirdo: | Kahlua |
| [17:23:00] | Beirdo: | silly :) |
| [17:23:00] | kormoc: | yeah, that stuff :) |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | yummy |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | milk + whisky ~= irish cream |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | if you can't sleep, the other option is 151 proof rum :) |
| [17:25:00] | ** kormoc perfers hot coco with mint snapps ** | |
| [17:25:00] | Beirdo: | goes down like fire, but tis good for making you sleepy :) |
| [17:26:00] | Beirdo: | just no beer to help you sleep |
| [17:26:00] | Beirdo: | the mid-sleep bladder-bust kinda negates the whole idea |
| [17:27:00] | laga: | heh |
| [17:27:00] | kormoc: | just don't break the seal! |
| [17:27:00] | sphing: | how CPU intensive is commflaggin? |
| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | as intensive as you tell it to be |
| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | there's a setting for that |
| [17:28:00] | sphing: | whats the advantage of having it be more intensive or less intensive... speed? |
| [17:28:00] | laga: | somy fucking OSD is gone and i've been trying to build CVS packages for debian for the last three hours and it just wont work |
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| [17:28:00] | laga: | brb, gotta commit suicide. and sorry for swearing. |
| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, and load on the machine, etc |
| [17:28:00] | sphing: | ok |
| [17:29:00] | sphing: | is commflaggin another program... like could i run it from another machine with an NFS share? |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | you can use mythjobqueue for that purpose, yes |
| [17:29:00] | sphing: | .. damn they thought of everything |
| [17:33:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: does your nuv2avi skip commercials if they've been flagged? |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | it converts the nuv file as it is |
| [17:33:00] | sphing: | if the flagging done on the nuv file' |
| [17:33:00] | sphing: | or record timestamps are kept in the db |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | the latter |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | read the source :) |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:34:00] | sphing: | hmm that'd be nice |
| [17:34:00] | sphing: | (not that i'm saying you should do it) |
| [17:35:00] | ** zacs clicks on beirdos google ads ** | |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | thank ye |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | it would be a royal PITA to do, and get the audio sync right |
| [17:35:00] | sphing: | I can't understand why playback gets skippy at certain points for like .5 secs but doesnt on live tv |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | myth will already transcode to do the cutting |
| [17:36:00] | sphing: | ... yea thats true |
| [17:37:00] | sphing: | does that happen for anyone else? |
| [17:39:00] | Beirdo: | never really noticed it here |
| [17:39:00] | sphing: | and it only happens when audio is enable |
| [17:39:00] | sphing: | if i removed /dev/dsp |
| [17:40:00] | sphing: | its perfect |
| [17:40:00] | sphing: | is there anyway to force myth to use alsa and not oss |
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| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | I think that's in the docs |
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| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah you set your output device to "Alsa" or something similar I think |
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| [17:51:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: that option isnt there as said by the docs |
| [17:51:00] | sphing: | and i'm positive I compiled it with alsa support, as I just reran my configure |
| [17:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | Settings, General, 3rd page |
| [17:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | First option |
| [17:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have never read the docs on the subject so I don't know what they say |
| [17:52:00] | rtsai: | Yeah, I used to be able to hit left/right to cycle through /dev/dsp and ALSA: etc. Now I don't get the ALSA options anymore |
| [17:53:00] | rtsai: | What's the big deal? Things work fine with OSS. Am I missing out on something? |
| [17:53:00] | sphing: | yea my alsa isnt there |
| [17:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't currently use Alsa on my myth boxes, so I don't even have it configured intentionally |
| [17:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: You should be able to type in anything you like into that field |
| [17:53:00] | sphing: | rtsai: my video is jittery with audio, but if I turn off sound, then it works great |
| [17:54:00] | sphing: | ok let me try typing it in |
| [17:55:00] | GeckoFiend: | sphing just make sure it's in the form of "ALSA:" like "ALSA:default" |
| [17:55:00] | sphing: | yea thats what i'm gonna type |
| [17:55:00] | ** GeckoFiend can't remember if the case sensitivity was ever fixed. ** | |
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| [17:56:00] | rtsai: | sphing: no I meant that I've also never gotten ALSA to "work" (not that I've tried very hard). I was wondering if I was missing out on something in my own system, using OSS. |
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| [17:58:00] | sphing: | ah |
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| [18:06:00] | sphing: | ok no matter what video i get |
| [18:06:00] | sphing: | it scrambles at 9secs |
| [18:06:00] | sphing: | but _not_ if i watch live tv |
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| [18:15:00] | sphing: | the problem is A/V Diverging at Frame... |
| [18:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | Did you get it running properly using Alsa ? |
| [18:16:00] | sphing: | yea... but went back to OSS as it had no improvement |
| [18:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | And you enabled extra audio buffering right ? |
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| [18:17:00] | sphing: | ... double checking.. |
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| [18:18:00] | sphing: | it wasn't enabled... but I just enabled... let me record something else and try again |
| [18:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | It should affect playback, not recording |
| [18:19:00] | sphing: | .. then its still doing it |
| [18:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | What kind of capture card ? |
| [18:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | And the audio actually "scrambles" or just gets out of sync ? |
| [18:20:00] | sphing: | PVR 250 |
| [18:20:00] | sphing: | and the console gives me |
| [18:20:00] | sphing: | A/V diverged by ____ frames |
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| [18:23:00] | sphing: | could it be my ivtv? |
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| [18:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never seen that message before |
| [18:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | tried using mplayer to see if you have a similar problem? |
| [18:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Would at least tell you if it's Myth related |
| [18:26:00] | sphing: | its all over mailing lists... |
| [18:26:00] | sphing: | yea i'll try that in a sec |
| [18:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | "I've never seen" really means It's never happened to me :) |
| [18:27:00] | sphing: | ah |
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| [18:27:00] | Beirdo: | need... beer..... |
| [18:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I often ignore peopls problems that have never occured to me when I read the mailing list :) |
| [18:28:00] | Beirdo: | fuck beer |
| [18:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is far too much crap on the -users list to read it all |
| [18:28:00] | Beirdo: | need... vodka! |
| [18:28:00] | ** laga hands a can of beer to beirdo ** | |
| [18:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | If the subject doesn't pull me in then it gets deleted :) |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | better be good stuff, laga.. no American piss-water |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | I actually drank a Bud in Memphis... |
| [18:29:00] | laga: | Beirdo: dude, they used to brew it in my home town. it's _teh_ shit. |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | just as shitty as I remembered |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | but it was $2 for a pint and a half |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | so what the hell.. |
| [18:29:00] | laga: | heh |
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| [18:31:00] | Beirdo: | Hmmm. |
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| [18:31:00] | Beirdo: | leave it to me to try to compile CVS between checkins |
| [18:32:00] | ** GreyFoxx watches all of the compile errors scroll by and giggles ** | |
| [18:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh what fun |
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| [18:41:00] | Beirdo: | let's see if this is any better |
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| [18:43:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [18:46:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod|afk: anyone built ccache for FC1 that you know of? |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | dag has em |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | never mind |
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| [18:52:00] | mrplum: | you guys are so cryptic |
| [18:52:00] | mrplum: | wth is ccache |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | use google |
| [18:53:00] | laga: | ccache is umm some kind of cache for gcc, it speeds up compiling when you compile the same things often |
| [18:53:00] | laga: | like CVS ;) |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | laga, let him google :) |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | OK, ccache, work your magic |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | I'll use frigging distcc once I figure out all the cross-platform crap |
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| [18:56:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i had already tipped half of my sentence when i read your message ;) |
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| [19:03:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: mplayer doesn't seem to be doing it... but then again... it doesnt do it with live tv either |
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| [19:10:00] | sphing: | anyone know why myth records messed up nuvs with audio problems |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | because your CPU is too busy? |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | holy HELL does ccache ever speed this up like crazy |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | I shoulda done this ages ago |
| [19:13:00] | laga: | yeah |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | In file included from dvbsignalmonitor.h:8, |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | from signalmonitor.cpp:10: |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | dvbtypes.h:23:31: linux/dvb/version.h: No such file or directory |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | dvbtypes.h:25:2: #error "DVB driver includes with API version 3 not found!" |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | WTF? I don't want DVB! |
| [19:16:00] | laga: | --disable-dvb iirc |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | DVB support no [/usr/src/linux-2.4.22–1.2199.nptl_52.rhfc1.at/include] |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | I already did that |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | it's borked |
| [19:16:00] | laga: | heh |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | something that should be listening to --disable-dvb ain't |
| [19:17:00] | kormoc: | clear your ccache |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | this was happening before ccache |
| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | signalmonitor.cpp is the offended party |
| [19:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | That was just updated wasn't it ? |
| [19:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | like within the last hour ? |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | oh look, it's DTK code |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | not that I've seen, updating again |
| [19:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nope, I might have been wrong |
| [19:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | looking at the list and I don't see it now |
| [19:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | I must have been dreaming |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | Go, DTK, break stuff. |
| [19:20:00] | ** GreyFoxx is breaking stuff right now ** | |
| [19:20:00] | mrplum: | nice |
| [19:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | cept it's on my own box :) |
| [19:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythgame falldown go boom |
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| [19:23:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: I'm recording and I have 96.6% free CPU |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | DMA then maybe |
| [19:23:00] | sphing: | on the harddrive? |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | harddrive, capture card, etc |
| [19:24:00] | sphing: | hmm.. ok i'll check |
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| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | heya, j-rod |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:51:00] | j-rod: | buenos dias |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:51:00] | j-rod: | my wrist is killing me |
| [19:51:00] | j-rod: | I've been typing and typing and typing... |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | Oh THAT's what you mean |
| [19:52:00] | j-rod: | documentation like a mofo for whoever comes after me |
| [19:52:00] | j-rod: | heh |
| [19:52:00] | j-rod: | 32-page treatise on delivering email... |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | "here's how to spam properly" |
| [19:52:00] | j-rod: | that'd be part of it, yup |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:52:00] | j-rod: | :\ |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | and this lousy CVS is currently borked |
| [19:53:00] | j-rod: | more accurately "how to avoid getting on AOL's shit list" |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | but at least I have ccache setup now |
| [19:53:00] | j-rod: | "so the junk mail keeps flowing to their sheeple subscribers, who actually do buy shit" |
| [19:53:00] | j-rod: | ccache good |
| [19:53:00] | j-rod: | me like |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | the DVB crap is breaking the compile when you don't have DVB drivers installed, and have done --disable-dvb |
| [19:54:00] | j-rod: | been fairly incommunicado for a week, too busy w/prep for getting the hell outta here. :) |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I've noticed |
| [19:54:00] | j-rod: | saw that in my dircproxy buffer |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | I've been fairly incommunicado too... too many things going on at once |
| [19:54:00] | j-rod: | one more week... |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | then you can moon your boss |
| [19:55:00] | j-rod: | next week should be pretty lax though |
| [19:55:00] | j-rod: | muahahaha |
| [19:55:00] | j-rod: | Wednesday is a little going away lunch at the Pike Brewery, complete with loads of good beer |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | mmmmm. beer |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | I'm so in the mood for a pint of vodka right now |
| [19:55:00] | j-rod: | Thursday we hit up the Pyramid Alehouse for lunch and beer before heading across the street for a Mariners game |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | who they losing to? |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | err, playing? |
| [19:56:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: how can I check if DMA is enabled on my card... i just check and it is enabled for my hd |
| [19:56:00] | j-rod: | hey now, they've won like 4 or 5 series in a row now... :) |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | sphing: if it isn't it will spew all over dmesg |
| [19:56:00] | j-rod: | don't remember who they're playing |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | what chipset is your motherboard? |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: well they gotta win sometimes, I guess. |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | win or lose, I hope you get to watch a good game |
| [19:57:00] | rtsai: | sphing: "man hdparm" |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | a 1–0 game for instance |
| [19:57:00] | j-rod: | we've got good seats too |
| [19:57:00] | sphing: | Intel Corp. 82801AA PCI Bridge (rev 02) |
| [19:57:00] | sphing: | rtsai: my hd has DMA |
| [19:57:00] | sphing: | i want to check my card |
| [19:57:00] | rtsai: | sphing: oops nm |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | Hmm, I haven't heard of any issues with that chipset |
| [19:58:00] | j-rod: | oh yay, they're playing Oakland, who is even shittier than they are this year... |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | if you are running nearly idle, and your recordings are glitchy, it's often a DMA thing of some sorts causing it |
| [19:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Woop, |
| [19:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | finally got off my butt and started modifying mythgame to make it more emulator generic |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: Cool... My fave games are the 1–0 pitcher's battles... and the 15–5 blowouts |
| [19:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/mythgame1.jpg |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | Oooooh, I just had a thought |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | I should play puzzle pirates on my TV :) |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | that would be evil |
| [19:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I decided I didn't feel like working today heh |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I feel the same way |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | which is why I tried to compile CVS |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | unsuccessfully |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | well, CVS mythtv |
| [20:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | So I spent half of the day looking through the myth code to see how the lists boxes were drawn for the video sources and such and cloning that into mythgame |
| [20:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | I'll wait to see if dtk finishes his changes or if I have to bitch loudly about him checking in crap code :) |
| [20:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | "Soon" Adding a new emulator, or any game really" will be trivial |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | if ya ain't done coding stuff and testing it, ya really shouldn't check it in (in my mind) |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | no more need for code mods anytime a version changes |
| [20:01:00] | j-rod: | interested in seeing this Morse kid play |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: I really need to find time, energy, money to watch a few games this year |
| [20:01:00] | j-rod: | 23 year old they called up a few weeks ago, since nobody was getting the job done at short |
| [20:02:00] | j-rod: | he's hitting .419 in his first two weeks in the show |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | the combination of the three factors is hard to find |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | oh wow |
| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nice |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | not bad at all |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | I want Tony Fernandez back... |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | back in the day... |
| [20:02:00] | j-rod: | lmao |
| [20:02:00] | j-rod: | we used to have a pretty decent short stop... |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | That little guy could really play well |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | shortstop's always been my fave position to play too |
| [20:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use to be big into watching baseball, back I stopped watching pretty much any sport unless I was playing or at a live game |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | well, since the last strike, my interest fell way the hell down |
| [20:04:00] | j-rod: | same here, I don't watch on TV much, just Baseball Tonight |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | I used to listen to *every* game |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | unless I was in class or church, I'd be listening to the the Jays game |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | and after that, any west coast game AM radio would bring in |
| [20:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | j-rod: I Love to go to games live, but watching any sport on TV is boring and uninteresting. I'd rather be playing myself :) |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | radio's where it's at |
| [20:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | And I usually can't stand announcers |
| [20:05:00] | sphing: | the radio announcers are so much better than tv announcers |
| [20:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Actually I prefer to listen over the radio |
| [20:05:00] | j-rod: | yup (speaking of which, I'm hitting .400 myself in the 21+ mens baseball league I'm playing in...) |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | oooh, nice. |
| [20:05:00] | rtsai: | Beirdo: can't you just enable DVB in your CVS build but not use it? |
| [20:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Even listening to old radio shows, is fun |
| [20:05:00] | j-rod: | <-- pitcher |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | especially for a pitcher |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | nice |
| [20:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | rtsai: no |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | I don't want DVB shit at all |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | I don't have DVB, and when I say disable it, it should disable it |
| [20:06:00] | rtsai: | i agree, but it would get you farther until a fix is checked in :) |
| [20:06:00] | rtsai: | dtk uses dvb so i guess one wouldn't be surprised if non-DVB breakage happens |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | meh, what I have now runs |
| [20:06:00] | rtsai: | heh |
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| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | dtk is not good at quality-control/testing, I guess |
| [20:07:00] | Baylink: | ".400"? I guess you're entitled to "j-rod" then... :-) |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | not the first time his checkins caused stuff to break for me |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | .400 is pretty good, dude. :) |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | you guys should have online stats :) |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:08:00] | rtsai: | do you expect all devs to build all 1000 permutations of build options? |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | rtsai: I expect them to test with enable/disable of what they just changed at least |
| [20:08:00] | rtsai: | i suppose that si what sourceforge build farm would be good for |
| [20:09:00] | rtsai: | or is that mozilla? whatever |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | if you're messing with DVB code, make sure you test with DVB disabled too, not that hard to grasp |
| [20:09:00] | rtsai: | heh |
| [20:10:00] | j-rod: | .400 isn't as impressive in a league full of washed up pitchers, where anything over 80mph looks like 100, but I'll take it. :) |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | .400 is reasonable, I don't care what league... |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | in our slow-pitch softball league, I think I hovered around .350 |
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| [20:11:00] | j-rod: | and I don't have that many at-bats yet, so that number could easily go up or down in a hurry |
| [20:12:00] | j-rod: | finally getting contacts seems to have helped |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | and about 1/5 of the time it was aimed at the pitcher (a coworker) who kept trying to strike us out |
| [20:12:00] | j-rod: | never played w/my glasses |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | it was 3-pitch... and we'd supply our own pitcher, and he sucked |
| [20:12:00] | j-rod: | I can see the ball at the dish a LOT better now |
| [20:12:00] | j-rod: | heh |
| [20:12:00] | kernoman: | any suggestions for cool stuff to add to my mythtv box? |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | so I'd try to hit him with the ball as much as I could |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:12:00] | ** Beirdo is a total bastard sometimes ** | |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | but that's a softball at least |
| [20:13:00] | j-rod: | in baseball, trying to hit it right back at the pitcher is actually a really good approach to hitting... |
| [20:13:00] | j-rod: | at least it definitely is w/2 strikes. :) |
| [20:13:00] | kernoman: | am in not in the mythv forum? :) |
| [20:13:00] | j-rod: | before 2 strikes, swing off yer ass |
| [20:14:00] | j-rod: | mythtv? what's that? |
| [20:14:00] | j-rod: | (or mythv) |
| [20:14:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: yeah, I usually aim just to the right of the pitcher |
| [20:14:00] | kernoman: | hehe |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | or try to |
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| [20:14:00] | kernoman: | no coll stuff to suggest for mythtv then? |
| [20:14:00] | j-rod: | left-center gap is my usual landing zone lately |
| [20:14:00] | kernoman: | arse i mean cool |
| [20:15:00] | Beirdo: | kernoman: like what? |
| [20:15:00] | rtsai: | what kind of cool stuff are you trying to add? You mean like blue spinning LED fans and stuff? |
| [20:15:00] | j-rod: | ooh! spinners! |
| [20:15:00] | rtsai: | USB-powered coffee warmer? |
| [20:15:00] | kernoman: | anything you use that you may think others would benefit from |
| [20:15:00] | j-rod: | gotta get some of those for my new Tahoe... :) |
| [20:15:00] | sphing: | MMM |
| [20:15:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: I'm usually a late hitter, not early, but I can pull the pitch left if I concentrate |
| [20:15:00] | rtsai: | 5.25" bay ash tray? |
| [20:15:00] | kernoman: | no i mean like programs etc |
| [20:16:00] | kernoman: | i dont smoke... |
| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | now baseball rather than softball, I'd get struck out over and over for a while |
| [20:16:00] | rtsai: | so you're asking "what else do you use your computer for?" |
| [20:17:00] | kernoman: | no i am asking if you have any addons for mythtv that you can suggest |
| [20:17:00] | rtsai: | besides all the plugins? |
| [20:17:00] | kernoman: | theres not many plugins though... |
| [20:17:00] | j-rod: | good thing I'm hitting well now, 'cuz my shoulder is still buggin'... |
| [20:17:00] | rtsai: | there's tons |
| [20:17:00] | rtsai: | news, phone, gallery, video, dvd, weather, ... |
| [20:17:00] | j-rod: | need to go see a doctor, I think |
| [20:17:00] | kernoman: | mst are pretty poor, gallery is bad so is the video add on :) |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: you musta torn/pulled something |
| [20:18:00] | j-rod: | seems that way |
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| [20:18:00] | rtsai: | so you want me to suggest more crappy plugins? I actually think gallery and video are good enough for me ... |
| [20:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | kerno: Feel free to improve on them |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | or to get bent |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | since he left anyways |
| [20:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | that too :) But I was trying to be nice |
| [20:18:00] | rtsai: | dammit now I have nothing to do; I'm bored at work |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | Ahhh, I love being an ass at times |
| [20:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | code something for myth :) |
| [20:19:00] | j-rod: | I'm biding my time, waiting for 12:45... |
| [20:19:00] | sphing: | rtsai: helo me |
| [20:19:00] | sphing: | *hep |
| [20:19:00] | rtsai: | no, beirdo will yell at me to breaking stuff |
| [20:19:00] | sphing: | **help |
| [20:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: I spend so much time at it I have to be nice once in a while to shake things up |
| [20:19:00] | rtsai: | s/to/for |
| [20:19:00] | j-rod: | mmm... lunch... |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | rtsai: no, I get bitchy (in general) when broken code is checked in |
| [20:20:00] | rtsai: | :) |
| [20:20:00] | rtsai: | speaking as someone who as checked in broken code (for money, even) ... |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | as you'd have to submit patches, one would hope it would be tested before checking it in for you... |
| [20:20:00] | rtsai: | I'm inclined to be less bitchy :) |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | so have I |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | and I've countless times had to fix it when others have done so |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | I smacked a coworker around for that once |
| [20:20:00] | rtsai: | maybe I'm more patient in my old age |
| [20:21:00] | sphing: | my recordings are getting A/V diverged |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | well, beat him with a chunk of foam |
| [20:21:00] | sphing: | but not my live tv |
| [20:21:00] | Baylink: | Worked for the shuttle... |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | sphing: I've noticed that too |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | which is why I'm trying to update my CVS |
| [20:21:00] | sphing: | is it skipping for you |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | just gradually losing sync on playback |
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| [20:22:00] | sphing: | well it just jumpy... it not like a once or twice its like every 7 seconds.. and like 10 messages at a time |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | as over half the time I don't actually WATCH the TV, but rather listen to it, it doesn't affect me much |
| [20:22:00] | sphing: | well the audio gets scrambled for me also |
| [20:22:00] | sphing: | ill try the cvs |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | current CVS won't compile for me |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | so good luck |
| [20:23:00] | sphing: | . .. lovely |
| [20:23:00] | kormoc: | dual pass xvid takes a long time... |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | yes it does |
| [20:23:00] | kormoc: | is it normal for it to not know how many total frames or the fps for xvid? |
| [20:24:00] | gecko is now known as GeckoFiend | |
| [20:24:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v GeckoFiend | |
| [20:25:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: sometimes... |
| [20:25:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:25:00] | kormoc: | sorta annoying when benchmarking :) |
| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | I think the output of the base tool gets misread (or changes) |
| [20:26:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [20:26:00] | kormoc: | makes sense. |
| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | it takes time every time to track it down |
| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | bug xris sometime :P0 |
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| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | grab the foam bat... |
| [20:26:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | just make sure if he brings in an axe.. run |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | in a zig-zag formation preferrably |
| [20:27:00] | kormoc: | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/71bc/ |
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| [20:27:00] | kormoc: | yeah, his axe is really cool |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | dammit |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | I need one of those |
| [20:28:00] | kormoc: | I know! They look like much fun |
| [20:28:00] | Netwolf: | is there a yum repo for mythtv? |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | atrpms.net |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | I think you can use yum with it |
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| [20:28:00] | Netwolf: | I'm on RHEL |
| [20:28:00] | Netwolf: | i'll see if I can get yum to work |
| [20:29:00] | j-rod: | yes, you can use yum w/atrpms.net |
| [20:29:00] | j-rod: | even on rhel |
| [20:29:00] | j-rod: | 3 and 4 |
| [20:29:00] | Netwolf: | cool |
| [20:30:00] | ** Beirdo reenabled dag to allow ccache to install from package ** | |
| [20:32:00] | j-rod: | that's where my ccache came from too |
| [20:32:00] | j-rod: | amazingly easy to set up |
| [20:32:00] | Beirdo: | I usually disable his repo, it breaks shit for me all the time |
| [20:32:00] | sphing: | beirdo where does your compile crash |
| [20:32:00] | j-rod: | and amazingly useful at speeding up repeated rpm builds |
| [20:32:00] | Beirdo: | signalmonitor.o |
| [20:33:00] | Beirdo: | and mythtv builds :) |
| [20:33:00] | sphing: | ..? |
| [20:33:00] | j-rod: | said repeated rpm builds are often mythtv builds. :) |
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| [20:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:33:00] | Beirdo: | sphing it craps on signalmonitor.o |
| [20:36:00] | Beirdo: | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/753d/ |
| [20:36:00] | Beirdo: | now that could be a lot of fun |
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| [20:37:00] | kormoc: | mmm... Marshmellows |
| [20:37:00] | Beirdo: | fires mini-marshmellows |
| [20:37:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [20:37:00] | Beirdo: | get a bag of em and terrorize the office |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/6a73/ |
| [20:40:00] | jonK: | I've seen that on the website, you actually have one? |
| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | I wish I had the "I haven't got time to read this crap" stamp |
| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | my dad coulda used one in his teaching days |
| [20:40:00] | j-rod: | heh |
| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | likewise the "Complete and Utter BULLSHIT" |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | and the "This is F**KING URGENT" would be good for purchase requests here at work |
| [20:42:00] | j-rod: | coulda used that last one |
| [20:42:00] | j-rod: | for our zabbix server |
| [20:43:00] | j-rod: | dropped a disk in a RAID5 |
| [20:43:00] | j-rod: | nobody bothered getting another one in a timely fashion |
| [20:43:00] | j-rod: | then we dropped another disk |
| [20:43:00] | j-rod: | and the backups for that machine were somehow fucked |
| [20:43:00] | j-rod: | lost 9 months of performance data for about 100 machines |
| [20:43:00] | j-rod: | oops |
| [20:43:00] | sphing: | in a timely fashion... it was probably like a month+ |
| [20:44:00] | j-rod: | and several months before, we'd said "this server needs to be replaced" |
| [20:44:00] | j-rod: | coulda used the stamp at least 2x... |
| [20:45:00] | j-rod: | now I have a brand new dual 3GHz Xeon w/4GB of DDR2 RAM, 2x36GB 15krpm HDs for the OS, 4x146GB 15krpm HDs for the data... |
| [20:45:00] | j-rod: | *sniff* I'll miss you, beefy box |
| [20:46:00] | j-rod: | oh wait, no I won't. |
| [20:46:00] | sphing: | damn thats fast |
| [20:46:00] | j-rod: | I'll have five 128-node clusters to keep me company |
| [20:46:00] | j-rod: | THAT's fast. :) |
| [20:47:00] | sphing: | SUPER MYTH SERVER |
| [20:48:00] | j-rod: | hm, current cvs build dying, /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldvdnav |
| [20:48:00] | j-rod: | aha, libdvdnav-devel |
| [20:48:00] | sphing: | i'm building also |
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| [21:00:00] | GeckoFiend: | j-rod it shouldn't have enabled that if it didn't find the lib |
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| [21:00:00] | Beirdo: | my current cvs build doesn't get that far... |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | I'll wait for a day to see if it gets fixed, or if dtk needs a nudge with an error report |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | he might be just about to checkin a file, what do I know? |
| [21:03:00] | jonK: | just started a build from cvs — wonder how far I'll get :) |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | if you use DVB, it might even work |
| [21:05:00] | jonK: | I do not |
| [21:05:00] | jonK: | correct me if wrong: DVB == eurpoean standard |
| [21:05:00] | jonK: | for digital cable |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | the DVB drivers are used for the HDTV cards too |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | and you are wrong :) |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:05:00] | jonK: | i just ordered an hd3000 |
| [21:05:00] | jonK: | but don't have it yet |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | DVB is an international standard, used everywhere but in USA and Canada pretty much |
| [21:06:00] | sphing: | j-rod: I got the same error |
| [21:06:00] | jonK: | and US uses NTSC and ATSC |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | and its variations are used for cable, satellite and terrestrial broadcast |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | DVB *is* used in North America for satellite (Dish, Bell Expressvu), but it's encrypted, so you're SOL anyways |
| [21:07:00] | jonK: | ok |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | but the drivers for air2pc and one of the drivers fro hd3000 basically act as DVB drivers |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | as much is the same protocol-wise |
| [21:08:00] | jonK: | unless you happen to have proven that P=NP and found the holy grail of prime number factoring |
| [21:08:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: did you get this: http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/753d/ |
| [21:08:00] | jonK: | as well |
| [21:08:00] | sphing: | oops I meant this: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldvdnav |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | I don't do DVD |
| [21:08:00] | sphing: | nor do i |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | did you --disable-dvd? |
| [21:12:00] | sphing: | i guess I didn't |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | try with that and compile |
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| [21:15:00] | sphing: | you seen openwater |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | every time I look out the window at home, I see open water |
| [21:18:00] | sphing: | ... the movie |
| [21:19:00] | Beirdo: | except in winter, then I see ice |
| [21:19:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [21:19:00] | ** laga wanders off to install openwrt ** | |
| [21:19:00] | laga: | dd-wrt is teh suxx. |
| [21:19:00] | Beirdo: | openwrt++ |
| [21:19:00] | D-side: | i never bothered with that stuff. bought a WRAP for 3x the price. :) |
| [21:19:00] | laga: | "At the moment we have no stable supported release. " <- great ;) |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | I have 3 wrt54g using openwrt and bridging my wireless using WDS |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | the experimental works fine for me |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | get over to #wrt54g if you wanna discuss with the developers, etc |
| [21:21:00] | laga: | thanks |
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| [21:24:00] | D-side: | Beirdo: so tell me. |
| [21:24:00] | D-side: | with wds, does it really cut the speed in half, as they say |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | not that I've noticed, like I care |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | 54Mbps is pretty fast |
| [21:24:00] | D-side: | my usage of it makes a difference. |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | even with it shared |
| [21:24:00] | D-side: | streaming large mpeg2 files |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | it carries my VoIP data no problem |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | which is my use for it |
| [21:25:00] | D-side: | yeah, not much bw for that. |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | one by my bed for the two phones there |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | one in the kitchen for the phone there |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | one by my firewall |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | no unsightly cables all over the place |
| [21:26:00] | D-side: | yeah its nice. |
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| [21:26:00] | D-side: | i've got APs in the tv room (where the firewall and mythtv box are), the bedroom (my box and the gf's imac), and downstairs (the "lab") |
| [21:26:00] | D-side: | those just bridge wired segments though. |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | even half of 54Mbps should be plenty for MPEG2 at any sane bitrate |
| [21:26:00] | D-side: | ive got a fourth AP in the TV room for client access. |
| [21:26:00] | D-side: | at present, the PSP. |
| [21:27:00] | Atarian[Work]: | Hi guys, soon-to-be mythtv user here |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/6d7f/ |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | cooool |
| [21:27:00] | D-side: | Beirdo: yeah, i love that thing. |
| [21:27:00] | D-side: | dont need it though. |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | I prefer the "break the CD in half" method |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | far more fun |
| [21:28:00] | sphing: | .. microwave? |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not gonna fuck with my microwave |
| [21:28:00] | D-side: | i like the idea of a cdr rapist. |
| [21:29:00] | sphing: | lol |
| [21:29:00] | Atarian[Work]: | just unclear about one thing. i will be using directv, with s-video out to the mythtv box. how will i be able to set the timer and have the channel auto-change? do i need some kind of IR thing? (i'd like to avoid that, if possible) |
| [21:29:00] | jonK: | IR Blaster |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | Atarian[Work]: either an IR transmitter or a serial cable if the directv reciever supports it |
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| [21:29:00] | psm321: | hi |
| [21:29:00] | Atarian[Work]: | thanks |
| [21:30:00] | psm321: | last time i updated (4-21–2005) mythfrontend started misdetecting my display size... i didn't care too much about it then because i could fix it by specifying --geometry |
| [21:30:00] | psm321: | but i upgraded again today annd now --geometry only changes the user interface, not the video playback (which is too big now) |
| [21:30:00] | psm321: | (updates being the current cvs version both times) |
| [21:30:00] | psm321: | and also the new version isn't hiding/covering the kde taskbar |
| [21:30:00] | psm321: | any ideas? |
| [21:31:00] | psm321: | (other than reverting) |
| [21:31:00] | GeckoFiend: | psm321 so either 1) Check the box so that playback is tyhe same since as the gui or 2) Tell myth what size to use so you don't have to deal with it |
| [21:31:00] | GeckoFiend: | oh and, don't run KDE with Myth that's just asking for trouble |
| [21:31:00] | psm321: | its been working fine for me so far (kde) bout 6 months now |
| [21:32:00] | psm321: | and i like to have some other things open |
| [21:32:00] | psm321: | and kde is my preferred gui |
| [21:32:00] | sphing: | GeckoFiend: you got any idea why recordings are having A/V syncing issues |
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| [21:32:00] | Atarian[Work]: | another question. id like the mythtv box to sit on my entertainment center with my other audio/video stuff. can anyone reccomend a nice case? |
| [21:32:00] | ** Beirdo wonders where he left his cigar lighter ** | |
| [21:32:00] | sphing: | when i play them back i get alot of "A/V diverged by _____ frames" |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [21:33:00] | GeckoFiend: | psm321 what do you need a a gui for when you're watching TV? It's just extra overhead that gets in the way |
| [21:33:00] | sphing: | Atarian[Work]: regular sized atx? |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | Atarian[Work]: silverstone LC10 is nice, but expensive |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | it's AV-sized. |
| [21:33:00] | GeckoFiend: | sphing you're not giving me much to go on. *my* recordings don't have A/V sync issues. |
| [21:33:00] | psm321: | GeckoFiend: i already have "Use GUI size for TV playback" checked |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | about the size of a DTS receiver or so. 16x6x16" I think |
| [21:34:00] | Atarian[Work]: | something relatively small. this box will only be for mythtv, so i dont need to cram a ton of stuff in there |
| [21:34:00] | psm321: | GeckoFiend: and i don't only use the box to watch tv |
| [21:34:00] | GeckoFiend: | try setting the display size in the appearance settings then |
| [21:34:00] | sphing: | ha.. sorry alright... when i record and playback... (on both frontends) "A/V diverged by" and it gets skippy for a couple of secs, I checked I have DMA enabled on the HD |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | Atarian[Work]: ahh, or look at the Antec Aria. microATX only |
| [21:34:00] | sphing: | but the skipping doesn't happen on live tv. |
| [21:35:00] | GeckoFiend: | sphing what kind of recordings, what kind of playback etc etc etc |
| [21:35:00] | sphing: | ... myth recording of a tv show |
| [21:35:00] | sphing: | playback in myth |
| [21:35:00] | ** GeckoFiend pounds his head on his desk ** | |
| [21:35:00] | sphing: | i'm not understanding the question |
| [21:36:00] | GeckoFiend: | Hard ware or software encodiing, HDTV or SDTV. Playback using Xv, XvMC, PVR350 etc etc etc |
| [21:36:00] | sphing: | ah |
| [21:36:00] | sphing: | sorry |
| [21:36:00] | GeckoFiend: | of course it's a fucking TV recording being played back trhough myth :-p |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:36:00] | sphing: | ok.. PVR250 on the backend... with viaXvMC on one of the frontends |
| [21:36:00] | sphing: | regular analog cable... |
| [21:37:00] | psm321: | GeckoFiend: ok that worked, thanks.... i still think it should be considered a bug though because 1) until my previous upgrade it was detecting screen size properly and 2) even after that it was honoring the "Use gui size for tv" properly... and now it does neither unless gui size is explicitly specified |
| [21:37:00] | sphing: | I copied the nuv to another machine (third without myth) and played them in VLC and the skipping happens also |
| [21:37:00] | psm321: | GeckoFiend: and i haven't changed any X settings |
| [21:38:00] | GeckoFiend: | sphing sounds like a driver issue then. My best geuss is something in your "default" recording profile is setting off a driver bug that your "live TV" profile isn't |
| [21:38:00] | sphing: | i set them identical |
| [21:38:00] | sphing: | when I disable the sound (ie remove the symlink in /dev/dsp) the video doesn't skip |
| [21:39:00] | GeckoFiend: | sphing you can always try changing the bitrate in the audio, or a different capture driver |
| [21:40:00] | sphing: | i lowered the audio bitrate to 192 |
| [21:40:00] | ** Beirdo hands GeckoFiend the trout ** | |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | oh COOL |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/drives/6908/ |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | I need me one |
| [21:40:00] | GeckoFiend: | psm321 I might be a bug... Problem is all of the developers use Myth on their TVs not as generic computer app on their KDE desktop (unless testing something) so it's not likely to get fixed unless somone like you creates a patch |
| [21:42:00] | psm321: | GeckoFiend: i actually am displaying on a tv... i think that may be part of the issue because theres also a monitor attached which i dont use (thats a separate non-myth issue... x wont run properly on the tv w/o the monitor) |
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| [21:42:00] | Atarian[Work]: | hmm, i like the look of this case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129162 |
| [21:42:00] | jvs: | good evening |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | yeah it's not bad, be careful of PCI slots though |
| [21:43:00] | psm321: | GeckoFiend: is there any way to check out cvs as of a certain date (i.e. to try and backtrack and see where the bug came in)? |
| [21:43:00] | jvs: | does anybody know how to move the tv-out picture? |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | looks like that has full-height PCI slots, you should be good, Atarian[Work] |
| [21:43:00] | jvs: | move it a bit to the left, then up ... not just overscan? |
| [21:43:00] | GeckoFiend: | psm321 yeah there is... it's either -d or -D |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | jvs: more details |
| [21:43:00] | psm321: | Beirdo: afaik that tape drive wont work in Linux (just fyi) |
| [21:44:00] | Atarian[Work]: | cool. i have a pvr-250 and i'll probably throw an old radeon card in there |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | psm321: how can it not work in Linux, it's a TAPE drive |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:44:00] | psm321: | GeckoFiend: alright thanks, i'll check it out after classes are over |
| [21:44:00] | GeckoFiend: | Atarian[Work] bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt |
| [21:44:00] | psm321: | its a cassete tape drive |
| [21:44:00] | psm321: | audio |
| [21:44:00] | psm321: | not data |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | I know, silly |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | that's the whole idea |
| [21:44:00] | GeckoFiend: | "old radeon card" bad idiea for a Myth box |
| [21:45:00] | Atarian[Work]: | just for the tv out? |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | Atarian[Work]: don't do it |
| [21:45:00] | psm321: | well i wasnt able to findd any linux drivers... maybe they exist i dunno |
| [21:45:00] | jvs: | Beirdo: overscan works fine...but I still have a black border on the right and top... |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | if it's Radeon 8500 or newer, it might be OK |
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| [21:45:00] | Atarian[Work]: | 9000 pro |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | but the nvidia cards are easier to deal with |
| [21:45:00] | ** psm321 uses a low-en nvidia mx card ** | |
| [21:45:00] | psm321: | was around $15 w/ tv out |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | and I use ATI :) |
| [21:45:00] | jvs: | Beirdo: overscanning more, and I would end with only half the picture ;) |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | jvs: it's driver settings, I'm sure |
| [21:46:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, http://kormoc.homelinux.org/speedtest.html <-- I'm finally working on it |
| [21:46:00] | Atarian[Work]: | my brother has an nvidia card he isnt using, ill take that, he took my 9800xt when i was done with it |
| [21:46:00] | jvs: | Beirdo: its not in the nvidia settings |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | psm321: what drivers would you actually need? it's audio out! |
| [21:46:00] | GeckoFiend: | sphing try the following: 704x480 -> DVD stream type, 4k bitrate 6.5k max bit rate, 48000 sample rate, Layer II audio type 224 kps |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc cooool |
| [21:46:00] | jvs: | well, if XvMC should happen to work fine, you should def. go with nvidia |
| [21:47:00] | psm321: | Beirdo: oh... i wasnt aware of that, i guess i assumed it transfered the data thru ide or something |
| [21:47:00] | psm321: | sorry |
| [21:47:00] | sphing: | ok.. just out of curiousity where'd you get those settings? |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | psm321: I would highly doubt it |
| [21:47:00] | GeckoFiend: | jvs fire up xvidtune and use it to cook up a modeline that works |
| [21:47:00] | jvs: | GeckoFiend: Ill check that, thx |
| [21:48:00] | Atarian[Work]: | ill check out that nvidia card when i get home from work. |
| [21:48:00] | ** GeckoFiend spent a while last night adjusting his modeline in xvidtune. ** | |
| [21:48:00] | GeckoFiend: | it's not a good sign when a working modeline stops working for no reason |
| [21:50:00] | psm321: | Beirdo: yes ur right audio is done w/ audio cables but there is a control mechanism via serial which may not work |
| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | if it's over serial, we could make it work damn easy in Linux |
| [21:51:00] | psm321: | while we're on the topic of tv out, is it normal for the overall "shape" of the picture on the tv to depend on the colors currently displayed? |
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| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | not in my experience, no |
| [21:51:00] | psm321: | hmm |
| [21:51:00] | psm321: | too bad i dont have a camera to show u what i'm talking about |
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| [21:53:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:53:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, I'm gonna go the hell home |
| [21:53:00] | Beirdo: | enough of this work bullshit |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | seeya guys later |
| [21:54:00] | sphing: | late |
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| [22:03:00] | ** sphing wants to have GeckoFiend ... its not doing it anymore ** | |
| [22:03:00] | sphing: | I had mpeg2 ps |
| [22:03:00] | GeckoFiend: | sphing heh a lot of the ivtv drivers are real particular on what settings you use |
| [22:04:00] | sphing: | i had to lower the bitrate a little.. |
| [22:04:00] | sphing: | but its not stuttering anymore |
| [22:04:00] | sphing: | wow.. i'm so happy.. thanks alot |
| [22:04:00] | sphing: | seriously |
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| [22:05:00] | sphing: | is there a way to delete all my recordings... from delete recording |
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| [22:21:00] | xris: | cheap drive, no rebates: http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4280824 |
| [22:21:00] | jonK: | xris how big/ |
| [22:21:00] | jonK: | ? |
| [22:21:00] | xris: | 300G seagate for $120 + s&h |
| [22:22:00] | jonK: | ooh — I have a 300g drive, and have been thinking about adding a second one |
| [22:22:00] | jonK: | looked at frys yesterday, couldn't get one for under 200 |
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| [22:22:00] | jonK: | (or maybe 179) |
| [22:23:00] | Ray_: | Does anyone here utilize a Hauppauge PVR 150? |
| [22:23:00] | xris: | I do |
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| [22:23:00] | xris: | jonK: that one is a good deal. and it's seagate, too. |
| [22:24:00] | Ray_: | xris: What did you have to do to get it running? I am currently in the Configuration for mythtv, and I am not sure what to set the "Card Type" too.. |
| [22:24:00] | xris: | wtf? it should show up as a hardware encoder card like a pvr-250/etc. |
| [22:25:00] | xris: | do you have it working outside of mythtv yet? |
| [22:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | it does |
| [22:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | but it says "PVR250 PVR350" not PVR150 |
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| [22:30:00] | jonK: | xris i may just have to order one |
| [22:30:00] | Ray_: | So I select "PVR 250 PVR 350"? |
| [22:30:00] | jonK: | yes |
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| [22:31:00] | Ray_: | is there anything else that I must do to get it running? |
| [22:31:00] | jonK: | xris: ordered the HD3000 — so may need the space |
| [22:31:00] | xris: | Ray_: yes. make sure it works WITHOUT mythtv first. |
| [22:31:00] | jonK: | ray, do you have ivtv running |
| [22:31:00] | psm321: | xris: did u get an order through? (it says unable to add to cart) |
| [22:31:00] | Ray_: | no... I just got done installing KnoppMyth and I am in the initial Config screen |
| [22:31:00] | xris: | psm321: huh? I'm not buying one. |
| [22:31:00] | jonK: | ray, let's turn this around, what have you done to get it working |
| [22:31:00] | Ray_: | nothing yet... |
| [22:32:00] | psm321: | xris: err sorry |
| [22:32:00] | jonK: | are you familiar with linux generally? |
| [22:32:00] | Ray_: | No... pretty noobie at this |
| [22:33:00] | jonK: | do you know how to open shell window? |
| [22:34:00] | Ray_: | I am guessing Right click on desktop and there is "Shell Window" in that? :-I |
| [22:34:00] | jonK: | sure if it's there |
| [22:34:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, so, any more info would you like to see in the table you think? (got called to a meeting) |
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| [22:35:00] | ** CyberKnet announces the "Help CyberKnet get his broken stuff replaced fund" to try to cover the losses from his damn neighbors tree falling on his power lines and frying his electrical gear. ** | |
| [22:35:00] | jonK: | OUCH! |
| [22:35:00] | jonK: | what happened?! |
| [22:35:00] | CyberKnet: | damn neighbors tree fell on my power line, and the two phases converged and fried a bunch of my gear. |
| [22:36:00] | psm321: | kormoc: beirdo left to go home (or at keast he said he did) |
| [22:36:00] | CyberKnet: | router, cable mode, printer, scanner, speakers, microwave, xbox... and more besides. |
| [22:36:00] | jonK: | file claim against there h/o policy |
| [22:36:00] | CyberKnet: | wont cover it, they say it is an "act of God" |
| [22:36:00] | kormoc: | psm321, yeah, but he'll hop on and likly see it, or I'll ask again when he gets home |
| [22:36:00] | psm321: | k |
| [22:36:00] | jonK: | sue them, see if they keep saying it |
| [22:36:00] | kormoc: | psm321, thanks tho :) |
| [22:36:00] | CyberKnet: | jonK: that requires a lawyer =) |
| [22:37:00] | jonK: | or give you $5000 to go away |
| [22:37:00] | jonK: | maybe not, how much total $$$ have you lsot |
| [22:37:00] | CyberKnet: | I'd say probably about six or seven hundred dollars. |
| [22:37:00] | jonK: | it would be small claims anyway |
| [22:37:00] | jonK: | did the tree fall over in storm? |
| [22:37:00] | CyberKnet: | Yes. |
| [22:37:00] | jonK: | hmm... harder then |
| [22:38:00] | CyberKnet: | actually, it didn't totally fall over, it snapped in two. |
| [22:38:00] | jonK: | closer to thir "act of god" loe |
| [22:38:00] | jonK: | lie |
| [22:38:00] | CyberKnet: | yes, you see what I am going through? =) |
| [22:38:00] | jonK: | the pain....agony |
| [22:38:00] | CyberKnet: | come up to Tulsa and prosecute for me, I'll give you a 30% commission. |
| [22:38:00] | CyberKnet: | *grin* |
| [22:38:00] | jonK: | lol |
| [22:38:00] | jonK: | a whole $210 |
| [22:39:00] | CyberKnet: | Ask for costs too... then you can get a bit more. |
| [22:39:00] | CyberKnet: | =P" |
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| [22:40:00] | jonK: | does auto expire kill based on date? or to free space for current recording? |
| [22:43:00] | CyberKnet: | Hmm... I dont know sorry. |
| [22:46:00] | CyberKnet: | later folks. |
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| [22:56:00] | Ray_: | Does anyone know what the "Certificate Code" part of the account creation at zap2it is? |
| [22:56:00] | jonK: | that will get you yelled at |
| [22:57:00] | sphing: | Ray read the howto |
| [22:57:00] | sphing: | its there |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | Ray_: RTFM |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:57:00] | jonK: | told ya :) |
| [22:58:00] | hadees: | Ray_, 1 2 3 4 5 6 |
| [22:58:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, so, any more info would you like to see in the table you think? |
| [22:59:00] | hadees: | what do you guys think about parsing tv.com for info for mythtv |
| [23:01:00] | jonK: | hadess: why?? is there a problem with the current way things work for getting scheduling info? |
| [23:01:00] | psm321: | i think he meant more episode details |
| [23:01:00] | psm321: | i considered that |
| [23:01:00] | psm321: | tv.com sucks tho... tvtome was much better |
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| [23:02:00] | jonK: | oh... i see what you mean. i wouldn't mind seeing the year something first aired e.g., to know whether it's a new or old episode of the simspsons |
| [23:03:00] | psm321: | ideally that should already be in the guide data |
| [23:03:00] | psm321: | (but i know it isnt always) |
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| [23:03:00] | rtsai: | doesn't data direct already provide first-air-date information? |
| [23:03:00] | cortezdapimp: | hello everybody |
| [23:04:00] | psm321: | hi |
| [23:05:00] | GeckoFiend: | psm321 it is already in the guide data for folks in NA |
| [23:06:00] | psm321: | it isnt always theere tho (thats what i meant when i said it should already be there) |
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| [23:18:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: what FXO/FXS are you using with asterisk? |
| [23:18:00] | Beirdo: | for FXO: shitty X100p clones |
| [23:18:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: the $10 jobs? |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | for FXS: Sipura SPA-3000 & SPA-2100 |
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| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [23:19:00] | mchou: | isnt the Sipurax SPA-3000 a FX0/FXS combo? |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | but I'm not using the FXO part right now |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | but I may change that |
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| [23:20:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: any particular reason you didnt use the FXO on the Sipura earlier? (like harder to config?) |
| [23:20:00] | Beirdo: | it doesn't do the distinctive-ring detection |
| [23:21:00] | Beirdo: | as far as I can tell |
| [23:21:00] | mchou: | Hi jonK. Still dispensing legal advice on irc? :) |
| [23:22:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: you happy with Sipura's stuff? |
| [23:23:00] | Beirdo: | yep, they are decent gear |
| [23:23:00] | Beirdo: | it's a PITA to configure though |
| [23:23:00] | mchou: | looks like the minimum cost of entry is around $100 for FXO/FXS HW..... |
| [23:23:00] | Beirdo: | about that |
| [23:23:00] | mchou: | yeah, I've heard. |
| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | pretty rock solid though |
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| [23:24:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: you hook that stuff up to the WAN first or to the lan ("after" the router?) |
| [23:25:00] | Beirdo: | I have em hooked to a DMZ via wireless |
| [23:25:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:25:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, I'm off to play a game for a while |
| [23:26:00] | mchou: | So yours is WAN-DMZ-Voip GW? |
| [23:26:00] | Beirdo: | WAN? |
| [23:26:00] | mchou: | well, "Inet" |
| [23:26:00] | Beirdo: | I have my DSL going into the firewall |
| [23:26:00] | Beirdo: | and my wireless going into the firewall |
| [23:26:00] | Beirdo: | and my LAN |
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| [23:26:00] | Beirdo: | the asterisk box is on the LAN |
| [23:26:00] | Beirdo: | the sipura boxes over wireless |
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| [23:27:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: ok. |
| [23:27:00] | mchou: | go play your game :) |
| [23:27:00] | mchou: | thx |
| [23:27:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, puzzlepirates time :) |
| [23:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | puzzlepirates? |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | now let me play :) |
| [23:29:00] | kormoc: | no! you must answer these questions three! :P |
| [23:30:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:30:00] | jonK: | I've decided to play that tonight |
| [23:30:00] | Beirdo: | Ahhhh! |
| [23:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what is it? |
| [23:30:00] | jonK: | so I'll see everyone on monday |
| [23:30:00] | Beirdo: | pretty much :) |
| [23:31:00] | Beirdo: | OK, need to raise like 60000poe |
| [23:31:00] | Beirdo: | hmph |
| [23:32:00] | mchou: | man, I think that would be addictive. |
| [23:32:00] | mchou: | better stay away from that. |
| [23:33:00] | jonK: | that's why I've stayed away |
| [23:33:00] | mchou: | I swear Cyberknet has the worst luck |
| [23:33:00] | mchou: | fried electrical componebts. Ouch! |
| [23:33:00] | mchou: | components* |
| [23:33:00] | JohnnyQuest: | how did he do taht? |
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| [23:34:00] | mchou: | Neigbors tree fell on his wires :) |
| [23:34:00] | mchou: | well, power lines |
| [23:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | wtf... |
| [23:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | so that fried stuff in his house? |
| [23:34:00] | jonK: | wind |
| [23:34:00] | jonK: | when the wires crossed... es |
| [23:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | he doesnt have it on surge protectors or ups's? |
| [23:35:00] | mchou: | surge protects dont protect that :) |
| [23:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i live in florida, we get lightning strikes often enough we have them on everything |
| [23:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | they dont? |
| [23:35:00] | mchou: | nope. |
| [23:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | even if they are the really powerfule sugre protectors? |
| [23:35:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [23:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | like, there are different joules ratings on them |
| [23:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | wow |
| [23:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | that sux for him |
| [23:36:00] | mchou: | dude just got a pvr 500 too :) |
| [23:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i want that |
| [23:36:00] | mchou: | what, his fried one? |
| [23:36:00] | mchou: | :) |
| [23:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i installed that pluto thing last night |
| [23:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dunno if you were here when i was looking at it.. |
| [23:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, it blew |
| [23:36:00] | mchou: | I've seen pluto b4. |
| [23:36:00] | gnarface: | dear fucking god i love linux |
| [23:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i hate linux.. |
| [23:37:00] | gnarface: | but if i have to fix another windows box i'm going to kill myself |
| [23:37:00] | mchou: | it blew? |
| [23:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i cant get linux to work.. |
| [23:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya.. |
| [23:37:00] | gnarface: | haha |
| [23:37:00] | mchou: | the web site looked slick..... |
| [23:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya it id |
| [23:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but like, i installed it |
| [23:37:00] | jonK: | johnny, where are you at, |
| [23:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i couldnt get it to run |
| [23:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | florida |
| [23:37:00] | jonK: | no, in installing linux |
| [23:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | st. pete/tampa area |
| [23:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | oo |
| [23:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i got fc3 up and running |
| [23:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but i hvae a pvr-150 |
| [23:37:00] | jonK: | but no myth |
| [23:37:00] | gnarface: | JohnnyQuest: that's because you havn't learned enough about it yet. your failures are patently representative of someone not familiar with how to use a shell or the standard system V directory layout |
| [23:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i got it all running but the remote |
| [23:38:00] | jonK: | what happens with the remote |
| [23:38:00] | jonK: | (what kind of remote) |
| [23:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it would show up in the temrinal |
| [23:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | happauge |
| [23:38:00] | jonK: | ok |
| [23:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but it wouldnt control myth |
| [23:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, im reinstalling fc3 right now |
| [23:38:00] | jonK: | you mean when running irw? |
| [23:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [23:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but i got everything else to work perfectly |
| [23:38:00] | jonK: | ok, and the codes appeared correct for your remote |
| [23:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [23:38:00] | jonK: | e.g., when you press up the cvde says 0000x0xxlx0x UP |
| [23:39:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [23:39:00] | jonK: | ok |
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| [23:39:00] | jonK: | what does mythfrontend say about it? |
| [23:39:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i tried pluto, seeing if it would give me better picture/sound quality, but it didnt work |
| [23:39:00] | gnarface: | JohnnyQuest: that just means you didn't compile lirc support into mythtv or you havn't wired up irxevent correctly. |
| [23:39:00] | gnarface: | i think its called irxevent |
| [23:39:00] | JohnnyQuest: | mythfront end doesnt say a single thing |
| [23:39:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well, ill have to worry about my remote later |
| [23:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im gonna get myth again |
| [23:40:00] | jonK: | i bet it does.... when you run mythfrontend from a terminal window |
| [23:40:00] | jonK: | it will put messages to that screen |
| [23:40:00] | jonK: | run myth |
| [23:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it doesnt come back with aynthing in there |
| [23:40:00] | jonK: | then stop it |
| [23:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well it doesnt for lirc |
| [23:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it doesnt mention it |
| [23:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but mplayer mentions it when it starts |
| [23:40:00] | jonK: | get it up and running first, |
| [23:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [23:40:00] | jonK: | my guess is you don't have the correct lircrc file |
| [23:40:00] | jonK: | in the user that's running mythtv |
| [23:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | should i complile myth or use apt-get mythtvsuite? |
| [23:41:00] | jonK: | i'd try to use the mythtvsuite |
| [23:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [23:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thats what i used last time |
| [23:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | worked great, all but lirc and my drivers for my pvr-150 |
| [23:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im gonna try to see if i can use the pluto drivers on my fc3 system |
| [23:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | or the .3 ivtv drivers |
| [23:42:00] | jonK: | do what you did to get working last time, and then we can try to walk through the problem, but stop using "reinstall linux" as your defualt trouble shooting technique |
| [23:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [23:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | this time that wasnt my trouble shooting technique |
| [23:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it was more, pluto looked really nice... |
| [23:42:00] | jonK: | on that vein though, did you ever try ubuntu"? |
| [23:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [23:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i had alot of trouble with that |
| [23:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i crashed gnome 3 times |
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| [23:43:00] | jonK: | how? |
| [23:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | so that i couldnt boot to it |
| [23:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dunno |
| [23:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | installing mythtv |
| [23:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | everytime after in stalled mythtv |
| [23:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it wouldnt boot to gnome anymore |
| [23:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it would say failed |
| [23:43:00] | jonK: | I'm running a backend mythtv box on a stripped down ubuntu |
| [23:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i wanted to do that |
| [23:43:00] | mchou: | jonK: I'd not recommend unbutu right now. Not ready for prime time yet. |
| [23:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i liked ubuntu alot |
| [23:44:00] | jonK: | really? |
| [23:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it was really easy to use |
| [23:44:00] | jonK: | I've really liked it |
| [23:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and it was nice looking |
| [23:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i wish i coulda got it to workk |
| [23:44:00] | jonK: | I've used debian for years, and really liked having it install with new packages |
| [23:44:00] | ** j-rod has the breezy badger installed on his PowerBook G4 now... ** | |
| [23:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but im settling for fc3 cuz i actually am getting mythtv to work on it |
| [23:45:00] | j-rod: | Fedora sucks. :-) |
| [23:45:00] | j-rod: | *snicker* |
| [23:45:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but mythtv runs on it for me... |
| [23:45:00] | j-rod: | <--- had too much to drink at lunch |
| [23:46:00] | jonK: | the only dangerous amount is none |
| [23:46:00] | JohnnyQuest: | <---had too much to smoke today... |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | yeah, mythtv runs fine on FC3 for me too |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | and FC4 |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | and FC2 |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | and FC1 |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | and RH9 |
| [23:46:00] | JohnnyQuest: | fc4 it didnt work too well on |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | and RHEL4 |
| [23:46:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my vid card had trouble |
| [23:46:00] | jonK: | never been a big fan of red hat |
| [23:46:00] | jonK: | never liked RPM |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | I love 'em |
| [23:47:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but if anyone asks about pluto, as an os |
| [23:47:00] | j-rod: | (Red Hat and RPM) |
| [23:47:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it sucks |
| [23:47:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it boots up to somethign looking like a tv guide |
| [23:47:00] | j-rod: | still haven't got around to playing with pluto |
| [23:47:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and from there you choose to watch tv, climate control and other stuff |
| [23:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, nothing would work.. |
| [23:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i coudlnt get into a terminal... |
| [23:48:00] | mchou: | JohnnyQuest: so? what's wrong with that? |
| [23:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its very limited, and i couldnt exit mythtv once i entered... |
| [23:48:00] | mchou: | ctrl-F1 gets you a terminal |
| [23:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | no it didnt |
| [23:48:00] | mchou: | or maybe ssh |
| [23:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | try installing it.. |
| [23:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but i warn you |
| [23:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its a waste of time |
| [23:49:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [23:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i waste alot of time |
| [23:49:00] | mchou: | could have told you that :) |
| [23:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i installed ubuntu 3 times, fc3 3times, fc4 once, and knoppmyth |
| [23:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | none of that was nearly as much of a waste of time as pluto |
| [23:50:00] | mchou: | hehe, you are indeed expert now |
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| [23:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | not an expert, well at wasting time, yes |
| [23:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | at using any of this shit, not at all |
| [23:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but ive learned alot from all the installs except pluto |
| [23:50:00] | mchou: | I dont think I've ever installed the same OS more than twice (on the same machine) |
| [23:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i insatlled red hat on this machine im doing myth on about 3 or 4 years ago |
| [23:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i played with it for a bit |
| [23:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it was back when i had win98 and win200 |
| [23:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and they would crash all the time |
| [23:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | so i was gettins ick of it |
| [23:52:00] | mchou: | huh? windows or linux would crash? |
| [23:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | windows |
| [23:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | acutally, i crashed linux too... |
| [23:52:00] | jonK: | you? I'm stunned |
| [23:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [23:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i crash everytthing |
| [23:52:00] | mchou: | now jonK :) |
| [23:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but later i figured out i had corrupt ram |
| [23:52:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [23:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | so it would read everything adn rewrite it corrupt |
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| [23:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | so everntually all my dad was corrupt.. |
| [23:53:00] | mchou: | no OS would work well under those circumstances :) |
| [23:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i still havnt mailed that peice of ram in... |
| [23:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its just sitting in a bag somewhre... |
| [23:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | pc2100 no use for it... |
| [23:53:00] | mchou: | dont bother. RAM is cheap these days. Cost you more to mail it in :) |
| [23:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | not for 512 pc2100 |
| [23:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | costs me like 3 bux to send it in... |
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| [23:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, i dotn need it |
| [23:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and ram is expensive.. |
| [23:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i just spent 100 on 1 gig of dual channel corsair |
| [23:54:00] | mchou: | 1GB ram 400Mhz is around $80 these days. |
| [23:54:00] | mchou: | then you got ripped. |
| [23:54:00] | jonK: | and tell me what it says |
| [23:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | that was in december |
| [23:55:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but it was also 2.0 cas |
| [23:55:00] | mchou: | jonK: huh??? |
| [23:55:00] | phaeron: | ok read the FAQ. nothing against asking dvb-s questions. Engaging brain. |
| [23:56:00] | phaeron: | I got my Twinhan dvb-s card to work fine but it scans vertical channels only. fails to scan horizontal channels.. |
| [23:56:00] | phaeron: | anyone knows what is the problem, or where I can get an answer for this problem? ( google not helpful) |
| [23:57:00] | mchou: | us americans dont know jack about dvb :) |
| [23:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what is the difference between vertical and horizontal channels? |
| [23:57:00] | phaeron: | JohnnyQuest: the polarisation of the signal. |
| [23:57:00] | mchou: | I didnt even know there were such things :) |
| [23:57:00] | phaeron: | oh |
| [23:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i didnt either |
| [23:57:00] | phaeron: | lol, where am I supposed to ask. |
| [23:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well, you're not supposed to ask me aynthing |
| [23:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but here is where i would suggest.. |
| [23:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | people come and go from here.. |
| [23:59:00] | mchou: | phaeron: you in africa somewhere??? |
| [23:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ask later |
| [23:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and maybe someone will know |
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