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| [00:06:00] | Esotericisms: | evening all |
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| [00:28:00] | abarbaccia: | jams, are you there? i need some help real quick if you got a minute |
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| [00:52:00] | KarlosII: | mvg can somoene contact me please |
| [00:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i need help installing mythtv |
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| [00:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i cant get it to finish compiling |
| [00:53:00] | KarlosII: | oops |
| [00:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it keeps getting an error with -lqt-mt |
| [00:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i have qt3 installed |
| [00:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i cant get the multithreading to wokr |
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| [00:58:00] | mrproper_: | is there a way to watch live tv while recording the same channel? |
| [00:58:00] | mrproper_: | using 1 tuner card of course |
| [00:59:00] | Agrajag-: | the same channel? why dont you just watch what you're recording? |
| [01:01:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you can watch it on the tv |
| [01:01:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and record on the computer |
| [01:01:00] | JohnnyQuest: | just use a cable splitter |
| [01:01:00] | JohnnyQuest: | or hit r on the keyboard while watching a show |
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| [01:11:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody use nuv2disc – i have a question why it requires resolution to be at least 800x480 |
| [01:11:00] | abarbaccia: | native TV resolution is 720x480 |
| [01:12:00] | abarbaccia: | mrproper_, if it says you can't watch tv because it is recording a show, you can go into the recordings menu, and just start watching the recording its making at the moment – which is live (-3 s) |
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| [01:41:00] | briand: | hiya guys |
| [01:41:00] | briand: | my Myth setup is working *wonderfully* :D |
| [01:41:00] | ** rtsai claps ** | |
| [01:41:00] | ** briand smiles broadly. ** | |
| [01:42:00] | briand: | of course, this *will* lead to more television watching... |
| [01:42:00] | briand: | oh well. ;) |
| [01:43:00] | briand: | question: where are the channel icons located? I have all the "normal" channels, but there are a few (mostly local origination and educational access) with no icon... can I create an icon for them and 'insert' it somewhere? |
| [01:47:00] | rtsai: | I believe so. |
| [01:47:00] | rtsai: | select channum,callsign,name,icon from channel; |
| [01:47:00] | rtsai: | should get you started |
| [01:48:00] | mrproper_: | anyone know why id be getting: Unmarking repeats from grabber that fall within our new episode window... doing a mythfilldatabase? |
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| [01:49:00] | SkaMike: | Hi |
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| [01:51:00] | briand: | thanks, rtsai... i'll take a look |
| [01:51:00] | SkaMike: | Anybody know how well mythtv and v4l play with 64-bit gentoo |
| [01:52:00] | jasoncohen: | SkaMike, is there a signigigant performance improvement in general? i'm going to purchase an amd 64 3000+ and i'm wondering whether i should use the i386 or amd64 version of debian |
| [01:53:00] | SkaMike: | I don't have one yet, but my friend has an amd64 and he says it's much faster using it as a 64 bit processor |
| [01:53:00] | darkfire: | i use gentoo64, and it seems much faster for me |
| [01:54:00] | SkaMike: | darkfire, does mythtv and v4l support gentoo64? |
| [01:54:00] | darkfire: | yup, this box is my backend and my frontend |
| [01:54:00] | iggy: | flash doesn't |
| [01:54:00] | darkfire: | no flash |
| [01:54:00] | SkaMike: | flash as in macromedia flash? |
| [01:54:00] | darkfire: | you can use mozilla-bin to get a 32bit browser that can use flash, supposedly |
| [01:54:00] | iggy: | as in the ubiquitous internet animation thing |
| [01:55:00] | SkaMike: | Hmm |
| [01:55:00] | JohnnyQuest: | jason, i use amd64 windows and its much faster tahn xp pro |
| [01:55:00] | SkaMike: | hehe 64-bit windows is so bad |
| [01:55:00] | JohnnyQuest: | better than xp pro.. |
| [01:55:00] | JohnnyQuest: | at least for my purposes |
| [01:55:00] | SkaMike: | Not as much driver support and such |
| [01:55:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [01:55:00] | iggy: | I haven't noticed any difference between my box at work that's 64bit and my box at home that's 32 bit |
| [01:55:00] | JohnnyQuest: | that is true |
| [01:55:00] | darkfire: | SkaMike, for most of the 'not availible in 64-bit' things like flash and ... other things, you can use a 32bit binary and use the 32bit libraries |
| [01:55:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but it has all my stuff |
| [01:55:00] | iggy: | they both have the exact same speed processor |
| [01:56:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have a 3200+ cuz it was the same price as a 3000+, i like it alot |
| [01:56:00] | SkaMike: | My problem is I need a microatx board with onboard s-video. And I found this MSI one with the XPress 200.... But I have had really bad experiences with ATI and linux |
| [01:56:00] | darkfire: | SkaMike, the win32codecs, that's what i was trying to think of. no WMV unless you use a 32bit mplayer |
| [01:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i like ska |
| [01:57:00] | SkaMike: | I can live without WMV's... I will just be running mostly myth with this. |
| [01:57:00] | SkaMike: | Building an htpc for my parents. |
| [01:57:00] | iggy: | darkfire: yeah, that was the other one I was trying to dig up, quicktime I think is included in that |
| [01:58:00] | JohnnyQuest: | vlc at least the windows version plays .wmv's... |
| [01:58:00] | darkfire: | JohnnyQuest, microsoft didnt give gentoo the 64-bit codec, go figure :-p |
| [01:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i would believe it |
| [01:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but vlc doesnt use codecs |
| [01:59:00] | darkfire: | iggy, probably, i just got around to emerging a 32-bit mplayer, so i now have all the pron in it's 32-bit glory. |
| [01:59:00] | SkaMike: | I just can't wait to build a computer in this case.... *drool* http://silverstonetek.com/products-lc11.htm |
| [02:00:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im buliding a custom case for my htpc |
| [02:00:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont have enough money to buy a case... |
| [02:00:00] | SkaMike: | heh... who needs a case? :P |
| [02:00:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my htpc is running on an old 1.4 tbird.. |
| [02:00:00] | JohnnyQuest: | right now its on a mobo tray... |
| [02:00:00] | JohnnyQuest: | sides of the case are missing.. |
| [02:01:00] | JohnnyQuest: | not much need for fans tho... |
| [02:01:00] | JohnnyQuest: | so its quiet |
| [02:01:00] | darkfire: | SkaMike, wow. that takes full-size pci cards, right? |
| [02:01:00] | SkaMike: | yeah |
| [02:01:00] | opello: | so, 4400 and family just started recording and mythfrontend just crashed... isn't it supposed to ask me if i want to watch the one being recorded on the tuner i was watching tv on? |
| [02:02:00] | darkfire: | opello, yup, it should ask |
| [02:02:00] | JohnnyQuest: | myth crashes? |
| [02:02:00] | opello: | it didn't :( |
| [02:02:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i was using it cuz i thought it was more stable than windows |
| [02:03:00] | darkfire: | SkaMike, lol, i cant find out where to buy... because they used flash... heh |
| [02:03:00] | darkfire: | how much does that case run? |
| [02:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | 240 |
| [02:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i just looked it up |
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| [02:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | omg, qt has beent aking an hour to compile |
| [02:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | multithreading better work this time when i install myth |
| [02:06:00] | darkfire: | JohnnyQuest, newegg had it for 140ish |
| [02:06:00] | darkfire: | it was 170 tax/shipping and all for me |
| [02:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | o ok |
| [02:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i just looked at somesite i found |
| [02:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i idndt use pricewatch or anything |
| [02:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have an old compaq lying around |
| [02:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its a 733 p3... |
| [02:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | can you think of any uses for it? |
| [02:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | other than a bat... |
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| [02:08:00] | darkfire: | myth? i'd use it for myth. |
| [02:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | does skamike like ska/ |
| [02:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | would it run myth? |
| [02:08:00] | darkfire: | you could mail it to me, and i'll tell you how well it runs myth. |
| [02:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [02:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i can barely install myth.. |
| [02:08:00] | darkfire: | JohnnyQuest, i'd pair it up with a PVR-500, and i imagine it'd do well |
| [02:09:00] | JohnnyQuest: | 4th day working on installing it |
| [02:09:00] | SkaMike: | Sorry I got disconnected |
| [02:09:00] | JohnnyQuest: | have you ever built a whole case darkfire? |
| [02:09:00] | ananke: | JohnnyQuest : with a pvr card, that box should be sufficient to work as a frontend and backend. |
| [02:10:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [02:10:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im using a 1.4 ghz amd tbird... |
| [02:10:00] | darkfire: | JohnnyQuest, nope |
| [02:10:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its a lil choppy.. |
| [02:10:00] | JohnnyQuest: | with a pvr |
| [02:10:00] | JohnnyQuest: | for live tv at least.. |
| [02:10:00] | ananke: | choppy? what's choppy? |
| [02:10:00] | JohnnyQuest: | live tv |
| [02:10:00] | ananke: | i use athlon 900mhz, and i don't see anything choppy |
| [02:11:00] | SkaMike: | Hehe I set mythtv up on a celeron 700 and it worked fine |
| [02:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | wow |
| [02:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well |
| [02:11:00] | rtsai: | I can just about watch HDTV at 1000MHz |
| [02:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | maybe it was knoppmyth... |
| [02:11:00] | SkaMike: | well, just the front end |
| [02:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im using ubuntu now |
| [02:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and tryin to install mythtv |
| [02:11:00] | darkfire: | JohnnyQuest, mine was a bit choppy when i first set it up (on my 64bit,) make sure DMA is working |
| [02:11:00] | SkaMike: | :( @ ubuntu |
| [02:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you dojnt like ubuntu ska? |
| [02:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | how do i cehck if dma is working? |
| [02:12:00] | SkaMike: | hdparm |
| [02:12:00] | ananke: | heck, my backend was recording to [and the the frontend was playing from] a p2 350's nfs share. |
| [02:12:00] | darkfire: | hdparm (dev) |
| [02:12:00] | SkaMike: | hdparm /dev/hda |
| [02:12:00] | SkaMike: | and if it's off |
| [02:12:00] | ananke: | JohnnyQuest : hdparm -v /dev/device |
| [02:13:00] | SkaMike: | hdparm /dev/hda -d1 |
| [02:14:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [02:14:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ill have to do taht after this finishes its install |
| [02:14:00] | ** rtsai laughs at gentoo users' pain ** | |
| [02:14:00] | darkfire: | we have pain? |
| [02:14:00] | SkaMike: | Masochism :) |
| [02:15:00] | darkfire: | gentoo has not caused me any pain, however it has ruined about a dozen of my favorite stress dolls :( |
| [02:15:00] | JohnnyQuest: | omg!!! |
| [02:15:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it ccant get myth to install |
| [02:15:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i hate this |
| [02:16:00] | darkfire: | emerge mythtv ? |
| [02:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | emerge? |
| [02:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i keep getting teh same error everytime i try to compile mythtv |
| [02:17:00] | darkfire: | oh, not gentoo, got it. |
| [02:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its 'cannot find -lqt-mt' |
| [02:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i just installed qt3 with multithreading |
| [02:17:00] | darkfire: | do you have the ... nm |
| [02:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i know i installed it correctly |
| [02:18:00] | rtsai: | you need qt3-dev or whatever. |
| [02:18:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and that is? |
| [02:19:00] | rtsai: | On my system, I have libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev libqt3c102-mt libqt3c102-mt-mysql qt3-dev-tools |
| [02:19:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont know how to tell what i have... |
| [02:20:00] | rtsai: | what distro? |
| [02:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ubuntu |
| [02:20:00] | rtsai: | dpkg -l '*qt3*' | grep ^i |
| [02:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have, libqt3-headers, libqt3c102-mt, qt3-dev-tools, qt3.doc |
| [02:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | is my problem the mysql? |
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| [02:30:00] | mrproper_: | anyone know why id be getting: Unmarking repeats from grabber that fall within our new episode window... doing a mythfilldatabase? |
| [02:31:00] | rtsai: | JohnnyQuest: you don't have libqt3-mt-dev and you don't have libqt3c102-mt-mysql. I don't have "qt3.doc". |
| [02:31:00] | rtsai: | so I would start there |
| [02:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | how do i get libqt3-mt-dev? |
| [02:34:00] | rtsai: | same way you installed the rest of the stuff, with synaptic or aptitude or apt-get or whatever you used |
| [02:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well it says i cant get all the files |
| [02:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | for synaptic |
| [02:34:00] | rtsai: | then you need to fix that |
| [02:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | the rest of the stuff i installed by compiling what i got at trolltechs site |
| [02:34:00] | rtsai: | why are you compiling all this stuff? Your distro (ubuntu) should have everything ready to go |
| [02:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it iddnt |
| [02:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i get the error "cannot find -lqt-mt" |
| [02:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | while compiling mythtv |
| [02:35:00] | rtsai: | it's because you don't have libqt3-mt-dev |
| [02:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i cant get it, my distro didnt have it ready to go |
| [02:36:00] | rtsai: | then you're screwed |
| [02:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | or im having trouble getting it.. |
| [02:36:00] | rtsai: | but i also use ubuntu and have it, so i know it's not that |
| [02:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im sure its in some way possible.. |
| [02:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well the synaptic cant dl it.. |
| [02:36:00] | rtsai: | try aptitude |
| [02:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its saying cannot get all the files in the qt3-dev pack |
| [02:37:00] | rtsai: | then you need to google for that error message and figure out what is wrong; there is no point in continuing if you can't get the complete set of files you need to run a system |
| [02:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [02:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i figured out why its not working |
| [02:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its getting and md5sum mismatch |
| [02:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | any way to fix that? |
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| [03:06:00] | JeepJerk: | anyone here using remoted instead of lirc? |
| [03:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | jeepjerk, wat remote are you using, i havnt set up a remote yet |
| [03:08:00] | JeepJerk: | hauppage |
| [03:08:00] | JeepJerk: | and irblaster to control dish box |
| [03:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thats what i have |
| [03:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | have you had any luck wiht remoted? |
| [03:09:00] | JeepJerk: | well I used remoted b4 i got the irblaster |
| [03:09:00] | JeepJerk: | but I don't know if remoted works w/ it |
| [03:09:00] | JohnnyQuest: | didnt the irblaster come with the remote and card? |
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| [03:10:00] | JeepJerk: | transmitter |
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| [03:39:00] | rtsai: | JohnnyQuest: you'll have to do an "apt-get update" or something, then try to download the package again. |
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| [03:47:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i figured it out rtsai, the us.archive didnt work |
| [03:47:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i had to change the txt file to archive |
| [03:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and then everything could update |
| [03:48:00] | JeepJerk: | so upgrading the kernel with means I need to reinstall ivtv? |
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| [03:49:00] | ananke: | JeepJerk : yep, you have to recompile the ivtv drivers. |
| [03:50:00] | ananke: | JeepJerk : same thing as for any other kernel drivers |
| [03:50:00] | JeepJerk: | I'm new to all this package stuff |
| [03:50:00] | JeepJerk: | usually just compile everything |
| [03:51:00] | ananke: | you can compile everything as you wish, you don't have to use some packages |
| [03:52:00] | JeepJerk: | well its for someone else's box who's not really a linux user so I'm trying to keep package control on track |
| [03:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | how long does mythtv take to compile, or how long did it take for you 2? |
| [03:53:00] | ananke: | JohnnyQuest : it depends on the speed of your machine. i start the compile, and go do something else. |
| [03:53:00] | iggy: | ~30 mins |
| [03:53:00] | JeepJerk: | well one system is like 15 minutes, the other is about an hour |
| [03:53:00] | iggy: | on an athlon64 3500+ |
| [03:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [03:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | so, a few hours for me |
| [03:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | 1.4 ghz athlon tbird |
| [03:54:00] | JeepJerk: | I get the 15 mins running 2 jobs on smp 1.3 P3 |
| [03:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well so far, its been 20 minutes |
| [03:55:00] | iggy: | looks like it's ~41 mins on my old athlonXP 1800+ |
| [03:55:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [03:55:00] | iggy: | that's a little bit closer to what you have |
| [03:55:00] | JohnnyQuest: | hopefully its done within an hour |
| [03:55:00] | JeepJerk: | should be |
| [03:56:00] | JeepJerk: | yum is a PITA |
| [03:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | PITA? |
| [03:57:00] | JeepJerk: | Pain In The Ass |
| [03:57:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody know a deb that provides sdl-gui |
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| [04:09:00] | rjune: | JeepJerk: what's your problem? |
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| [04:11:00] | JeepJerk: | just complaining cause everytime I try to install something with it it has issues |
| [04:13:00] | JeepJerk: | for example the latest issue installing ivtv http://pastebin.linuxfromscratch.org/?show=1095 |
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| [04:13:00] | JeepJerk: | at least this time it installed it but looks like it missed a dependency because there're a lot of unresolved symbols in there |
| [04:18:00] | mortal5: | riksta, what driver are you using for your pvr ? |
| [04:18:00] | riksta: | i use dvb |
| [04:18:00] | mortal5: | you must have a pvr 250? |
| [04:19:00] | mortal5: | *350 |
| [04:19:00] | JeepJerk: | 350 |
| [04:19:00] | JeepJerk: | 350 is the only one with video out right? |
| [04:19:00] | mortal5: | righto |
| [04:19:00] | JeepJerk: | oh wait |
| [04:19:00] | JeepJerk: | wrong convo |
| [04:20:00] | mortal5: | lol JeepJerk how often does that happen? |
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| [04:20:00] | rjune: | JeepJerk: that link you sent has NOTHING to do with yum |
| [04:20:00] | JeepJerk: | I know, its ivtv, but yum installed it |
| [04:20:00] | JeepJerk: | and it looks like somewhere I have an incorrect library version |
| [04:21:00] | rjune: | Uhm, no. it looks like the ivtv driver doesn't match the kernel |
| [04:21:00] | JeepJerk: | ? |
| [04:21:00] | rjune: | big surprise, you'ure using atrpms kernel |
| [04:21:00] | rjune: | brb |
| [04:22:00] | mortal5: | riksta, so you have a pvr 350? |
| [04:23:00] | riksta: | NO DVB |
| [04:23:00] | rjune: | JeepJerk: ivtv is a kernel driver, not a library. /lib/modules/2.4.22–1.2199.nptl_53.rhfc1.at/updates/drivers/media/video/iv tv.o: unresolved symbol get_user_pages_Rba0bbdf8 <-- that indicates that the driver can't find something in the kernel that it needs |
| [04:23:00] | rjune: | JeepJerk: run uname -r and tell me what that returns |
| [04:23:00] | mortal5: | ? So your using a pvr 250 w dvb drivers? |
| [04:23:00] | JeepJerk: | 2.4.22–1.2199.nptl_53.rhfc1.at |
| [04:24:00] | JeepJerk: | please excuse the incoming flood: |
| [04:24:00] | JeepJerk: | [root@mythtv root]# yum list installed | grep kernel |
| [04:24:00] | JeepJerk: | kernel athlon 2.4.22–1.2199.nptl_53.rhfc1.atdb |
| [04:24:00] | JeepJerk: | kernel-module-ivtv-2.4.22–1.2197.nptl_51.rhfc1.atathlon 1:0.1.9–26.rhfc1.at db |
| [04:24:00] | JeepJerk: | kernel-pcmcia-cs i386 1:3.1.31–16 db |
| [04:24:00] | JeepJerk: | kernel-source i386 2.4.22–1.2197.nptl_51.rhfc1.atdb |
| [04:24:00] | JeepJerk: | kernel-utils i386 1:2.4–9.1.101.fedora db |
| [04:25:00] | rjune: | yup dude, that wasn't required |
| [04:25:00] | rjune: | though it tells me something |
| [04:25:00] | rjune: | 2.4.22–1.2199.nptl_53.rhfc1.at <--- your kernel |
| [04:25:00] | rjune: | kernel-module-ivtv-2.4.22–1.2197.nptl_51.rhfc1.at <--- the ivtiv driver you have installed |
| [04:25:00] | rjune: | see a problem there? |
| [04:25:00] | rjune: | JeepJerk: you running fc1? |
| [04:26:00] | JeepJerk: | yup |
| [04:27:00] | rjune: | if fc4's new utility works well, you might consider moving to it, fc4 is supposed to ship with a new util to keep kernel drivers updated or something |
| [04:27:00] | JeepJerk: | cool |
| [04:27:00] | mortal5: | is there another driver that i can use w my pvr 250 besides ivtv? |
| [04:27:00] | rjune: | anyway, you need release 53 of the ivtv drivers to match your kernel |
| [04:28:00] | JeepJerk: | so why did yum let me install the wrong packages? |
| [04:29:00] | rjune: | how did you install ivtv? |
| [04:29:00] | rjune: | yum install ivtv ? |
| [04:29:00] | JeepJerk: | yum upgrade ivtv |
| [04:29:00] | JeepJerk: | and it chose its own kernel module |
| [04:29:00] | rjune: | you were running kernel release 51 at the time is my guess |
| [04:30:00] | JeepJerk: | nope |
| [04:30:00] | rjune: | yum install kernel-module-ivtv-`uname -r` |
| [04:30:00] | rjune: | what does that do? |
| [04:31:00] | JeepJerk: | Cannot find a package matching kernel-module-ivtv-2.4.22–1.2199.nptl_53.rhfc1.at |
| [04:31:00] | JeepJerk: | but when I list its there |
| [04:31:00] | rjune: | yum list 'ernel-module-ivtv-*' |
| [04:31:00] | rjune: | yum list 'krnel-module-ivtv-*' |
| [04:31:00] | darkfire: | heh |
| [04:31:00] | rjune: | that lists the 53 release driver? |
| [04:32:00] | JeepJerk: | well I did yum list | grep ivtv |
| [04:32:00] | JeepJerk: | but yeha |
| [04:32:00] | rjune: | Hmm, that's interesting, |
| [04:32:00] | rjune: | is it wanting athlon or something? |
| [04:33:00] | JeepJerk: | actually its smp athalon tho in the listing |
| [04:33:00] | JeepJerk: | http://pastebin.linuxfromscratch.org/?show=1096 |
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| [04:33:00] | rjune: | JeepJerk: yeah, kernel modules are sucky like that. |
| [04:34:00] | rjune: | new tool is supposed to work magic and help with all of that. I'm skeptical still |
| [04:35:00] | JeepJerk: | so how come list shows it but when I try to install it yum can't fint it |
| [04:39:00] | gnarface: | gnar |
| [04:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im having trouble with installing myth |
| [04:40:00] | darkfire: | still on ubuntu? |
| [04:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [04:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | actually |
| [04:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i thi8nk i got it installed |
| [04:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | how do i run it? |
| [04:41:00] | JeepJerk: | mythbackend |
| [04:41:00] | JeepJerk: | mythfrontend |
| [04:41:00] | JeepJerk: | unless you haven't set it up yet |
| [04:41:00] | darkfire: | mythtv-setup |
| [04:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i just put that into the terminal? |
| [04:42:00] | JeepJerk: | thats one way of doing it |
| [04:42:00] | JeepJerk: | you need to be running x tho |
| [04:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | x> |
| [04:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ? |
| [04:42:00] | JeepJerk: | an X server |
| [04:42:00] | JeepJerk: | like XF86 of xorg |
| [04:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well, i dont think i did the mythtv-setup |
| [04:43:00] | JeepJerk: | you'll need to do that too, but that also happens in X |
| [04:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | is it ./mythtv-setup ? |
| [04:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok, how do i get into x? |
| [04:44:00] | JeepJerk: | depends where you are |
| [04:44:00] | JeepJerk: | have you read the docs? |
| [04:44:00] | darkfire: | JohnnyQuest, odds are you're in X right now. |
| [04:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im in the root terminal... |
| [04:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ive read teh docs |
| [04:44:00] | gnarface: | sure you have cowboy |
| [04:44:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont understand all of them (ive never used linux) |
| [04:45:00] | darkfire: | JohnnyQuest, is it just a console, or is it windowed? |
| [04:45:00] | darkfire: | ie, is IRC the only program you have open, or is it running in a window? |
| [04:45:00] | JohnnyQuest: | irc is on my windows |
| [04:45:00] | darkfire: | oh. |
| [04:46:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have a window running thats calld root terminal |
| [04:46:00] | JeepJerk: | then you're prolly in X |
| [04:47:00] | JeepJerk: | type 'whereis mythtv-setup' |
| [04:48:00] | gnarface: | isn't it mythsetup |
| [04:48:00] | gnarface: | ? |
| [04:48:00] | gnarface: | you don't want to be doing this as root |
| [04:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have a mythtv-setup |
| [04:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont? |
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| [04:48:00] | gnarface: | no |
| [04:48:00] | gnarface: | eh. nevermind. |
| [04:48:00] | gnarface: | you're doomed anyway |
| [04:49:00] | JeepJerk: | lol |
| [04:49:00] | gnarface: | just run mythtv-setup then |
| [04:49:00] | JeepJerk: | it'll be ok |
| [04:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i cant even run mythtv-setup |
| [04:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i get errors |
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| [04:49:00] | darkfire: | "<gnarface> you're doomed anyway" |
| [04:50:00] | darkfire: | heh, that should be topic. |
| [04:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | mythtv-setup: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| [04:50:00] | darkfire: | JohnnyQuest, what chip do you have? |
| [04:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | amd 1.4ghz tbird |
| [04:51:00] | darkfire: | i dunno. i'd just recommend knoppmyth or red-hat for the linux newbie |
| [04:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i tried knoppmyth |
| [04:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i had too much trouble with it |
| [04:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | like, i got it to work |
| [04:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, i couldnt update my drivers |
| [04:52:00] | JeepJerk: | JonnyQuest: are you compiling from source? |
| [04:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [04:52:00] | darkfire: | try red-hat. there's a really good howto out there on that internet thing. ubuntu is not geared toward newbies, afaik |
| [04:53:00] | JeepJerk: | JonnyQuest: have you run 'make install'? |
| [04:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i found the fix |
| [04:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [04:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i did make install |
| [04:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | the fix is, add /usr/local/lib to your ldconfig config file |
| [04:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | how do i do that? |
| [04:54:00] | JeepJerk: | its in etc |
| [04:54:00] | JeepJerk: | open it with your favorite text editor |
| [04:54:00] | JeepJerk: | but before you do that |
| [04:54:00] | JeepJerk: | you might be able to save some time |
| [04:54:00] | JeepJerk: | run 'ldconfig' |
| [04:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [04:54:00] | JeepJerk: | chances are that dir is already there |
| [04:55:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i ran ldconfig |
| [04:55:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it didnt do anything.. |
| [04:55:00] | JohnnyQuest: | or give any errors or anything |
| [04:55:00] | JeepJerk: | now run mythtv-setup |
| [04:56:00] | darkfire is now known as Darkfire_elsewhe | |
| [04:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | same error still |
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| [04:58:00] | JeepJerk: | then edit the /etc/ld.so.conf |
| [04:58:00] | JeepJerk: | and rerun ldconfig |
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| [05:00:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i cant find that file |
| [05:00:00] | JeepJerk: | run 'find / -name ld.so.conf' |
| [05:00:00] | JeepJerk: | that'll tell you where it is |
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| [05:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
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| [05:05:00] | aficionado: | hi, has anyone connected to an HDTV at 1080i? |
| [05:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i found it, it was in /ect/ im just dumb, but, how can i open it from in the terminal with commands? |
| [05:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i did ti before |
| [05:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and thats how i had to edit the files cuz i cant log in as root |
| [05:06:00] | aficionado: | JohnnyQuest: have you connected to HDTV at 1080i? :) |
| [05:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | no |
| [05:06:00] | aficionado: | :) |
| [05:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i cant even setup mythtv |
| [05:06:00] | aficionado: | JohnnyQuest: me neither, but thats another topic :) |
| [05:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | u know the command to open a txt file? |
| [05:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | in linux? |
| [05:07:00] | aficionado: | cat |
| [05:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | from the terminal? |
| [05:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | cat filename? |
| [05:07:00] | aficionado: | yup |
| [05:07:00] | aficionado: | that will show you the contents, but you can use something like 'nano' to edit it |
| [05:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [05:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thanx |
| [05:07:00] | aficionado: | JohnnyQuest: np |
| [05:07:00] | aficionado: | man, you are very new, aren't you? |
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| [05:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [05:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | very very new |
| [05:08:00] | aficionado: | haha, good luck :) |
| [05:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im learning |
| [05:09:00] | aficionado: | thats good |
| [05:09:00] | aficionado: | anyone else here? |
| [05:10:00] | mrproper_: | whats the quickest way to remove all the xml guide information from the database? |
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| [05:14:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im still geting errors :( |
| [05:14:00] | JohnnyQuest: | mythtv-setup: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| [05:14:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thats the error im getting |
| [05:17:00] | mrproper_: | JohnnyQuest: check that libmythtv-0.18.s is in your lib path |
| [05:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it is |
| [05:17:00] | gnarface: | mrproper_: can't you run mythtvsetup and answer 'yes' to both the first questions? |
| [05:18:00] | mrproper_: | gnarface: yeah but i dont want to remove all my channel config just want to remove the epg xmltv data for the guide |
| [05:18:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i did where is libmythtv-0.18.so.0 and it was in usr/local/lib |
| [05:18:00] | mrproper_: | gnarface: basically i did a channel grab with old channel settings then changed the channel settings, now running mythfill gets errors because the data is already 'there' |
| [05:18:00] | gnarface: | mrproper_: then what about deleting that video source and making a new video source? |
| [05:19:00] | mrproper_: | gnarface: wont that delete my channel config under that video source |
| [05:19:00] | mrproper_: | this is basically the error i get when doing a fill database: Unmarking repeats from grabber that fall within our new episode window...found 0 |
| [05:20:00] | gnarface: | mrproper_: heh. maybe there weren't any repeats? |
| [05:21:00] | mrproper_: | yeah but i dont have any information showing in the epg |
| [05:21:00] | mrproper_: | its all 'no data' |
| [05:21:00] | mrproper_: | so i really just want to 'force' a refresh |
| [05:21:00] | gnarface: | mrproper_: sounds like maybe there's no "easy" way to do it. see if you can find out which table stores the listing data? |
| [05:22:00] | JeepJerk: | JohnnyQ: any luck? |
| [05:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | no |
| [05:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | none at all |
| [05:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | someone else had this error, i found it in a log on google |
| [05:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and the fix they used didnt wrok |
| [05:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | work* |
| [05:23:00] | JeepJerk: | find your ld.so.conf |
| [05:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i found it |
| [05:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i edited it |
| [05:23:00] | JeepJerk: | reran ldconfig |
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| [05:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | no |
| [05:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ididn tdo that |
| [05:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ill do that |
| [05:23:00] | JeepJerk: | need to do that avery time you add new libraries |
| [05:24:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [05:24:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well still same error |
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| [05:25:00] | gnarface: | JohnnyQuest: you're doing all this from the same terminal right? |
| [05:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i believe it didtn save it correctly when i edited it |
| [05:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [05:25:00] | JeepJerk: | actually the other thing is you prolly don't want to run it from the root console |
| [05:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it left another file in /etc/ called ld.so.conf.save |
| [05:26:00] | JohnnyQuest: | why not from the root consol, im not, but why? |
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| [05:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well, i believe that i have stopped ubuntu from running... |
| [05:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ill be back tomorrow |
| [05:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | after i have reinstalled it |
| [05:27:00] | JeepJerk: | because sometimes its a different env and things won't always work the same |
| [05:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well the gui doesnt work anymore... |
| [05:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i still have a terminal.. |
| [05:28:00] | JeepJerk: | gui? |
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| [05:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [05:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | desktop.. |
| [05:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | gnome? |
| [05:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | that doesnt load anymore |
| [05:28:00] | JeepJerk: | thats not good |
| [05:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | no... |
| [05:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its not |
| [05:28:00] | JeepJerk: | do you want to learn linux? |
| [05:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i think its that edited file.. |
| [05:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [05:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im tryin to |
| [05:29:00] | JeepJerk: | www.linuxfromscratch.com |
| [05:29:00] | JeepJerk: | err |
| [05:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | .net? |
| [05:29:00] | JeepJerk: | its not.com |
| [05:29:00] | JeepJerk: | yeah |
| [05:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | how would you suggest opening that file i just tried to modify and caused the crash i believe? |
| [05:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i want to open it and modify it again |
| [05:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i cant do anything bad at this point.. |
| [05:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im gonna reinstall anyways.. |
| [05:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | unless i fix it.. |
| [05:32:00] | JeepJerk: | it shouldn't have crashed anyhting |
| [05:32:00] | JeepJerk: | ld.so.conf that is |
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| [05:34:00] | JeepJerk: | without starting too much trouble in here I can't really recommend a good text editor |
| [05:34:00] | JeepJerk: | but I use vi |
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| [05:56:00] | JeepJerk: | rjune you still around? |
| [05:56:00] | rjune: | yup |
| [05:57:00] | JeepJerk: | looks like I had the right version there |
| [05:57:00] | JeepJerk: | yum just didn't take out the old one |
| [05:57:00] | rjune: | Ahh |
| [05:57:00] | JeepJerk: | but Axel over at atrpms said its broken for FC1 |
| [05:57:00] | rjune: | that would do it too |
| [05:57:00] | rjune: | you looking to upgrade? |
| [05:58:00] | JeepJerk: | not really |
| [05:58:00] | JeepJerk: | whens FC4 coming out? |
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| [06:03:00] | j-rod: | FC4 is due out tomorrow |
| [06:03:00] | j-rod: | mirrors already have the isos |
| [06:03:00] | j-rod: | and so do I |
| [06:03:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [06:04:00] | JeepJerk: | really |
| [06:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im thinking im gonna try fc4 for my mythbox |
| [06:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and screw ubuntu |
| [06:05:00] | JeepJerk: | welll |
| [06:05:00] | j-rod: | ubuntu works just fine for me |
| [06:05:00] | Darkfire_elsewhe: | curse you cedega! |
| [06:05:00] | JeepJerk: | if I were you JQ I'd do FC3 |
| [06:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it doesnt for me.. |
| [06:05:00] | Darkfire_elsewhe is now known as Darkfire | |
| [06:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [06:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | then ill do fc3 |
| [06:05:00] | j-rod: | FC4 isn't going to be any harder than FC3 |
| [06:05:00] | JeepJerk: | cause then you have all the packages for myth |
| [06:06:00] | JeepJerk: | and they've been tested |
| [06:06:00] | j-rod: | they're all available for FC4 too |
| [06:06:00] | j-rod: | and they've been tested at least somewhat. :) |
| [06:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | does ubuntu have the packages? |
| [06:06:00] | j-rod: | I've been running Myth on a few FC4 boxes for some time |
| [06:06:00] | j-rod: | yes, ubuntu has them |
| [06:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [06:06:00] | Darkfire: | all gentoo, baby. |
| [06:06:00] | JeepJerk: | mine are LFS |
| [06:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | any tips to doing a ubuntu box? |
| [06:07:00] | j-rod: | enable universe and multiverse |
| [06:07:00] | j-rod: | should find everything then |
| [06:07:00] | j-rod: | worked for me, anyhow |
| [06:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | how do i do taht? |
| [06:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im reinstalling ubuntu now.. |
| [06:07:00] | j-rod: | edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| [06:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i had the gdm crash |
| [06:08:00] | JeepJerk: | thats the other reason I recommended FC3 is because there's a lot of howto's for it |
| [06:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ive seen teh howtos for fc3 |
| [06:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ubuntu seemed easier to use to me.. |
| [06:08:00] | j-rod: | I've seen a few gdm crashes on ubu, most of them when using their 2.6.11–1 kernel |
| [06:08:00] | j-rod: | I wrote the howto for FC3. :) |
| [06:08:00] | j-rod: | And it'll be moving to FC4 very soon. |
| [06:09:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont know what kernel im using.. |
| [06:09:00] | JeepJerk: | uname -r |
| [06:09:00] | j-rod: | 2.6.10–5 kernel plays much nicer |
| [06:09:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what is a kernel? |
| [06:09:00] | j-rod: | (2.6.10-5–686smp in my case) |
| [06:09:00] | JeepJerk: | 'uname -r' |
| [06:10:00] | JeepJerk: | this is wrong but call it what makes linux tick |
| [06:10:00] | JeepJerk: | basically the first thing loaded after the bootloader |
| [06:10:00] | JeepJerk: | interfaces all your devices |
| [06:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [06:11:00] | JeepJerk: | well I gotta run |
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| [06:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | jod, u still around? |
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| [06:45:00] | j-rod: | who is jod? |
| [06:45:00] | Darkfire: | half of j-rod? |
| [06:46:00] | j-rod: | that was my assumption... |
| [06:46:00] | j-rod: | in which case, I guess jod is still around... |
| [06:46:00] | Darkfire: | or some sort of jewish god. a jod. |
| [06:50:00] | j-rod: | could be that too |
| [06:50:00] | j-rod: | in which case, I couldn't say one way or the other if jod is here |
| [06:50:00] | laga: | and the award for the corny joke of the month goes tooo....darkfire! congratz, dude! |
| [06:51:00] | j-rod: | okay, wtf... I'm getting something about not being able to install fink because my disk doesn't support symlinks... |
| [06:51:00] | Darkfire: | heh, i try so hard. |
| [06:51:00] | j-rod: | horsecrap, I just made one... |
| [06:53:00] | Darkfire: | maybe the install script is just getting a wierd message from ln and interpreting it as 'no can do' ? |
| [06:56:00] | j-rod: | dunno, googling now |
| [06:58:00] | bin13: | For the plextor tv402u, are the drivers yet/going to be put into the kernel? If so, which is the starting kernel? Or are they only available in plextor's sdk? thanks |
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| [07:03:00] | j-rod: | looks like its due to my own stupidity... Forgot to put the developer tools stuff on this thing, so fink no like |
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| [07:17:00] | j-rod: | any security consultants here? |
| [07:17:00] | j-rod: | or anyone who has paid for a systems security audit recently? |
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| [07:18:00] | j-rod: | trying to get an idea of what it should cost for an audit of a single system |
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| [07:36:00] | mrproper_: | does anyone know how to totally clear the xmltv guide info and the channels associated with them |
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| [07:39:00] | gnarface: | i don't |
| [07:39:00] | gnarface: | but here's what i'd do if i were you |
| [07:40:00] | gnarface: | go to mysql.org |
| [07:40:00] | gnarface: | read up on how to use the mysql command-line-shell |
| [07:40:00] | gnarface: | especially the commands USE, SELECT, UPDATE, DESCRIBE |
| [07:40:00] | gnarface: | andthen go figure out which table has the data you want to nuke |
| [07:41:00] | gnarface: | and fricking nuke it |
| [07:41:00] | gnarface: | check out the command DELETE too |
| [07:46:00] | gnarface: | the xmltv guide info has gotta be somewhere in that database, right? |
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| [08:19:00] | j-rod: | hm, does a 1080i HDTV have 540 lines of resolution or 1080... |
| [08:19:00] | j-rod: | as in, is the drawing of frame x and x+1 offset spatially as well as temporally? |
| [08:21:00] | gnarface: | i would assume that's the whole point of it being interlaced, wouldn't you? |
| [08:21:00] | j-rod: | not sure, that's why I asked. :) |
| [08:21:00] | gnarface: | oh. |
| [08:22:00] | gnarface: | is the 1080 for horizontal or vertical though? |
| [08:22:00] | gnarface: | well |
| [08:22:00] | j-rod: | vert |
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| [08:22:00] | gnarface: | the real question i think is whether the opposing frames are temporally offset with respect to each other |
| [08:22:00] | j-rod: | just trying to straighten it all out in my head |
| [08:22:00] | gnarface: | if youre trying to de-interlace |
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| [08:23:00] | j-rod: | if 540p is electronically equivalent to 1080i, which I've heard said numerous times, then it seems there are really only 540 lines |
| [08:23:00] | j-rod: | in which case, there's no room to offset the frames spatially |
| [08:25:00] | gnarface: | i'm not exactly an expert at this, but wouldn't that mean that each frame has 540 lines but they're drawn to 1080 lines by being spliced together in pairs? |
| [08:25:00] | lespiggot: | hi, sorry newb question :( I'm looking to set up my 1st myth box, its a P3–800 with 512Mb of Ram. Due to my minamal CPU, should I purchase a PVR350 to compensate? |
| [08:25:00] | j-rod: | each frame definitely have 540 lines |
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| [08:26:00] | gnarface: | right |
| [08:26:00] | gnarface: | makes sense |
| [08:26:00] | j-rod: | outside of that ... |
| [08:26:00] | Darkfire: | lespiggot, i'd suggest a PVR, but not nessicarily a pvr-350. the tv-out is overrated. i own one. |
| [08:26:00] | Darkfire: | lespiggot, for the money, i would rather have a pvr-500 (2 tuners) and a gfx card with tv-out |
| [08:26:00] | j-rod: | a P3–800 w/a GF4 can handle decode of mpeg2 recordings from a PVR-250 no problem too |
| [08:27:00] | lespiggot: | Darkfire: the 500 OEM is the same price :) |
| [08:27:00] | gnarface: | 1080 interlaced suggests the frames are meant to be combined to form a 1080 line picture made up of data from two seperate pairs. doesn't it? |
| [08:27:00] | j-rod: | yes |
| [08:27:00] | lespiggot: | I have a nvidea FX5200 w tv out as my gfx card so that should be ok, I guess |
| [08:28:00] | gnarface: | so it must be saving bandwidth by not actually storing the blank lines of the frames |
| [08:28:00] | gnarface: | which makes perfect sense i suppose |
| [08:28:00] | Darkfire: | yeah, the gfx card should let you play fullscreen games via mythtv, which the pvr-350 wont. |
| [08:28:00] | riksta: | the overscan is a bit broken in the nvidia drivers i believe |
| [08:28:00] | gnarface: | j-rod: are the paired frames also temporally offset? |
| [08:28:00] | j-rod: | that much I'm clear on, just not sure if they are painted over the top of one another or offset |
| [08:28:00] | Darkfire: | offset, iirc. |
| [08:28:00] | j-rod: | that's *exactly* the part I'm trying to figure out. :) |
| [08:29:00] | Darkfire: | the bs i used to tell people when i was selling tvs that did interlaced and progressive is that it's all in the way the lines are presented. progressive displays a full image, and interlaced displays half and then half, at least thats what i said, and no one ever corrected me. |
| [08:29:00] | gnarface: | j-rod: oh. it should be easy right? take any two frames and splice them together into one and you should see zig-zag edges of moving objects if they're temporally offset, right? |
| [08:30:00] | gnarface: | but yea, i think Darkfire is right. its likely they're also temporally offset as well, if its a standard television signal. |
| [08:31:00] | j-rod: | they're definitely temporally offset |
| [08:31:00] | Darkfire: | gah, temporally means time delay, right? |
| [08:31:00] | j-rod: | heh, yeah |
| [08:31:00] | Darkfire: | brain isnt working right with that word. |
| [08:31:00] | riksta: | temporarily |
| [08:31:00] | Darkfire: | yeah, that's the way it was explained to me. |
| [08:32:00] | j-rod: | makes sense that they should be spatially offset |
| [08:33:00] | j-rod: | but I'm still at odds with the frequent mention I've seen that says 540p is electronically equivalent to 1080i |
| [08:33:00] | Darkfire: | i always understood that it was temporally and spatially. every other |
| [08:33:00] | riksta: | temporally is a seperate word? |
| [08:33:00] | Darkfire: | well, 540p and 1080i are both 540 lines displayed at the same time |
| [08:34:00] | riksta: | what is temporally? |
| [08:34:00] | Darkfire: | time-ish. |
| [08:34:00] | riksta: | shit, i didnt know that |
| [08:34:00] | j-rod: | but how does the TV know to offset the x+1th frame in a 1080i signal |
| [08:34:00] | j-rod: | and not offset a frame with a 540p signal? |
| [08:34:00] | Darkfire: | hrm. |
| [08:35:00] | j-rod: | therein lies my confusion. :) |
| [08:35:00] | Darkfire: | well, 540p and 1080i could still be eletrically equivilant, provided you have a initilization that occurs before the stream starts, i suppose |
| [08:36:00] | gnarface: | j-rod: framerate perhaps? |
| [08:36:00] | mrproper_: | I set my channels in the channel editor for dvb (doing a scan for them) they are created then i use a xmlgrabber but the xmlgrabber doesnt put the epg into the existing channels it creates new ones? |
| [08:36:00] | Darkfire: | (btw, 'i suppose' is englishly equivilant to 'i dont have a friggin clue, but this sounds good') |
| [08:37:00] | j-rod: | hm, could be framerate or refresh rate... |
| [08:37:00] | ** j-rod goes to double-check X config on his HDTV... ** | |
| [08:37:00] | Darkfire: | i would think the framerate for 1080i would have to be faster than 540p to get it to look right. |
| [08:39:00] | j-rod: | ModeLine "960x540p" 37.3 960 976 1008 1104 540 542 548 563 +hsync +vsync |
| [08:39:00] | j-rod: | ModeLine "1920x1080i" 74.5 1920 1952 2016 2208 1080 1084 1096 1126 -hsync -vsync interlace |
| [08:39:00] | gnarface: | i know for sure that typical standard-def television signals are played at basically double framerate to make the interlaced image display correctly |
| [08:39:00] | j-rod: | refresh rate is set the same on both, but dot clock is double on 1080i |
| [08:40:00] | Darkfire: | slightly less than double. |
| [08:40:00] | gnarface: | hmm. totally makes sense ya? |
| [08:40:00] | j-rod: | rounding error. :) |
| [08:40:00] | j-rod: | yeah, I think it makes sense now... |
| [08:41:00] | j-rod: | 2x the dot clock, 2x the traces across the screen, so 1080 lines instead of 540 for the 1080i mode versus the 540p mode? |
| [08:42:00] | j-rod: | or something |
| [08:42:00] | j-rod: | hm... |
| [08:42:00] | j-rod: | no, still 540 lines per frame |
| [08:42:00] | lespiggot: | guys, sorry to butt in again, what PVR would you recommend? the 250 is available w r/c but the 150 and 500 are MCE OEMs Ideally I would like to have a second tunner for live TV?? (cpu might not be up to it though :( ) |
| [08:43:00] | j-rod: | encoding is done by the card |
| [08:43:00] | j-rod: | cpu hardly gets used to record |
| [08:43:00] | j-rod: | should be able to record and watch on another card at the same time |
| [08:43:00] | j-rod: | probably would get into trouble if commercial flagging was running when you tried to watch tv though |
| [08:43:00] | Darkfire: | i'd go with the 500, i've heard the OEM works |
| [08:44:00] | j-rod: | I have a 500, works just fine |
| [08:44:00] | j-rod: | I give up on understanding exactly why 1080i does have 1080 lines |
| [08:44:00] | gnarface: | j-rod: still 540 lines per frame in either case but at double the framerate you can put together a 1080 line image |
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| [08:45:00] | gnarface: | j-rod: the *display* has 1080 lines, its just the signal is stored in 540 line frames that are meant to be played in pairs |
| [08:45:00] | gnarface: | or 3's or whatever |
| [08:45:00] | j-rod: | yeah, sorry, meant I still don't understand exactly how the 1080i signal gets its spatially offset between frames versus 540p |
| [08:45:00] | gnarface: | in series at double speed |
| [08:46:00] | gnarface: | oh. |
| [08:46:00] | j-rod: | but I'm convinced they are offset somehow. :) |
| [08:47:00] | lespiggot: | can you add the I/R reciever later then, I have a programable generic (6 in 1) rc |
| [08:47:00] | j-rod: | yes |
| [08:47:00] | mrproper_: | can anyone tell me how i delete particular channels from the channel editor in mythtv-setup? |
| [08:47:00] | j-rod: | highlight channel, press D |
| [08:47:00] | j-rod: | or maybe its M |
| [08:47:00] | j-rod: | time for bed, my brain hurts |
| [08:47:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [08:48:00] | j-rod: | thanks for the discussion on 1080i guys. :) |
| [08:48:00] | lespiggot: | thx j-rod |
| [08:48:00] | j-rod: | np |
| [08:48:00] | j-rod: | later all |
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| [11:48:00] | abarbaccia: | lespiggot, PVR250 is probably the easiest and best way to start out with myth – and yes, the remote is lirc compatible |
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| [11:56:00] | mrproper_: | anyone have problems with mythbackend magically stopping with nothing being logged into /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log |
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| [12:41:00] | laga: | mrproper_: look in dmesg, it's possible that it gets killed by the kernel |
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| [13:38:00] | DaveAsh: | anyone home here...lol |
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| [13:45:00] | DaveAsh: | hello |
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| [13:50:00] | GeckoFiend: | DaveAsh hello |
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| [14:00:00] | DaveAsh: | can u help or r u looking for help? |
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| [14:01:00] | DaveAsh: | I have everything running I just upgraded to 1.8 and the remote frontend won't connect |
| [14:01:00] | DaveAsh: | brb breakfast is ready |
| [14:01:00] | DaveAsh: | 10 mins |
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| [14:03:00] | the-FoX41: | hi |
| [14:04:00] | the-FoX41: | does anyone know if useonairguide=1 and empty xmltvid is enough in channels-tables to force mythtv to use epg-data from dvb stream ? |
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| [14:12:00] | johnp_: | the-FoX41, assuming that EPG is there and that the code can parse it ok, yes. |
| [14:13:00] | the-FoX41: | johnup_: mmh..i compiled myhtv with epg support and the useonairflag is set...but it doesn't work :( before when using knoppmyth everything worked fine... how can i be sure that epg support is really compiled into myth ? |
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| [14:16:00] | the-FoX41: | does anyone got dvb-t with ac3 working ? |
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| [14:22:00] | GeckoFiend: | DaveAsh can we assume you mean .18 not 1.8? Have you restarted your backend since upgrading? What's the error message you get? |
| [14:28:00] | johnp_: | the-FoX41, the presence of that check box is a reasonable indication. |
| [14:28:00] | the-FoX41: | johnp_:so i ask myself why it doesn't work :( |
| [14:29:00] | johnp_: | the-FoX41, one thing to note is that the code doesn't "crawl" across the mplexs so you need to tune to one which is "good" for a bit. |
| [14:30:00] | johnp_: | the-FoX41, the code hasn't changed in ages so I'm not sure why it would be broken now. |
| [14:30:00] | the-FoX41: | johnp_: so...i have to watch a channel with good signal quality for a while and than it will find the others ? |
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| [14:30:00] | the-FoX41: | johnp_: is there a possibility to show the signal strength when qatching one channel ? |
| [14:31:00] | johnp_: | dunno where in the world you are, but here in the uk if you tuned to mux1 (BBC) then it would get all the channels data. |
| [14:31:00] | the-FoX41: | johnp_: i am from germany |
| [14:31:00] | the-FoX41: | johnp_: thanks so far, i'll test it all tonight |
| [14:31:00] | johnp_: | the-FoX41, 'k |
| [14:31:00] | DaveAsh: | I'm bach arent you all glad...lol |
| [14:32:00] | ** laga is beethoven ** | |
| [14:33:00] | DaveAsh: | ok I got the machine with the back and frontend working |
| [14:33:00] | DaveAsh: | Now my last hurdle is a remote frontend |
| [14:34:00] | DaveAsh: | I have phpmyadmin running but I'm not sure how to resolve this hurdle..it was workinig before the upgrade |
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| [15:28:00] | laga: | would someone please email me pvr48wdm_1.8.22037.exe? i cant find any working mirrors. laga@laga.ath.cx |
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| [15:57:00] | CyberKnet: | *yawn* |
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| [15:58:00] | rjune: | it's possible to use mythfrontend with a gamepad/joystick isnt' it? |
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| [15:58:00] | CyberKnet: | I think so |
| [15:58:00] | CyberKnet: | If not directly then in patch form |
| [15:58:00] | CyberKnet: | somewhere |
| [15:59:00] | KillerBunny: | You can use Xmodmap maybe? |
| [15:59:00] | KillerBunny: | Its just a matter of binding a button to a keyboard key. |
| [16:00:00] | laga: | hey rjune |
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| [16:00:00] | laga: | rjune: got the mythfrontend/lbe stuff figured out? ;) |
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| [16:01:00] | rjune: | laga: haven't loooked |
| [16:01:00] | rjune: | i been bad |
| [16:01:00] | laga: | rjune: heh |
| [16:01:00] | laga: | rjune: don't worry, i still havent rebuild my lbe ;) |
| [16:02:00] | rjune: | I do have lbe now though. |
| [16:02:00] | laga: | nice :) |
| [16:02:00] | ** laga is currently rebuilding hsi mythtv, though. again. ** | |
| [16:03:00] | laga: | ^*sigh* |
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| [16:43:00] | CyberKnet: | *yawn* |
| [16:43:00] | CyberKnet: | I ordered a PVR-500 last night, hopefully it will arrive in a few weeks. |
| [16:43:00] | CyberKnet: | I did the unthinkable, and ordered from buy.com ;) |
| [16:43:00] | Beirdo: | muhahah |
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| [16:44:00] | CyberKnet: | $133, free shipping, and an 8% off coupon. Only paid $125 in the end. |
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| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | beer me now |
| [16:45:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [16:45:00] | laga: | Beirdo: ack |
| [16:45:00] | CyberKnet: | US$125 including shipping is a pretty good price for a 500, don't you think? |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: aye |
| [16:47:00] | CyberKnet: | Only problem with buy.com is that they are generally GOD AWFULLY slow. But if you know that going in, then you expect it, and factor that in your decision. |
| [16:47:00] | seraphine: | has anybody heard from Bogus8 |
| [16:48:00] | CyberKnet: | seraphine: No. |
| [16:48:00] | seraphine: | ty |
| [16:48:00] | CyberKnet: | seraphine: yw |
| [16:48:00] | JonK: | sweet |
| [16:48:00] | CyberKnet: | seraphine: bwirttmmettioifspkyrmi? |
| [16:49:00] | seraphine: | comment ca va? |
| [16:49:00] | seraphine: | lol |
| [16:49:00] | seraphine: | i just neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeddddddddddddd Bogus to sort my pc |
| [16:49:00] | CyberKnet: | seraphine: "but would it really take that much more effort to type it out in full so people know you really mean it?" |
| [16:50:00] | seraphine: | ahahah CyberKnet |
| [16:50:00] | seraphine: | sorry if i offend u ,,,, i am used to typing in faster channels and having to abbreviate |
| [16:50:00] | seraphine: | pardon moi |
| [16:50:00] | laga: | you need him to sort your pc? *raises an eyebrow* |
| [16:50:00] | CyberKnet: | JonK: FYI, since I got this card I am no longer in the market for one, I hope that you get yours working. |
| [16:51:00] | JonK: | (1) would assunme as much (2) not yet :( |
| [16:51:00] | CyberKnet: | seraphine: it's just courtesy. If someone takes the time to help you, you should take the time to let them know you appreciate it. |
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| [16:51:00] | seraphine: | CyberKnet in what way was i helped? |
| [16:51:00] | CyberKnet: | seraphine: you asked a question, no? |
| [16:52:00] | seraphine: | and how do you so quickly judge me and my character when this is my first visit, invited by Bogus8 |
| [16:52:00] | JonK: | also, can anyone suggest how to diagnose an lirc problem? |
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| [16:52:00] | CyberKnet: | JonK: Unfortunately I can't, sorry. I've never needed to use lirc, I use an I/R keyboard instead to avoid lirc and its associated headaches. |
| [16:52:00] | CyberKnet: | JonK: Your rig is the bane of your existence right now, isn't it? =) |
| [16:53:00] | JonK: | i bought a snapstream firefly |
| [16:53:00] | JonK: | this is for the frontend |
| [16:53:00] | JonK: | the pvr-350 remote on the backend works fine |
| [16:53:00] | JonK: | it's why i'm unsure what to do with the frontend |
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| [16:54:00] | JonK: | sarah, tell me you have a snapstream firefly working.. |
| [16:54:00] | CyberKnet: | JonK: is the firefly an infrared remote, or a USB HID? |
| [16:54:00] | SarahEmm: | hihi |
| [16:54:00] | JonK: | USB |
| [16:54:00] | SarahEmm: | no, i don't |
| [16:54:00] | SarahEmm: | i use an xbox remote and receiver |
| [16:54:00] | JonK: | good, if you had both that AND the 500 running, i'd have to go on a rampage of some sort |
| [16:54:00] | SarahEmm: | lol |
| [16:55:00] | CyberKnet: | JonK: so I assume the lirc question is not pertaining to the firefly then, is it? |
| [16:55:00] | SarahEmm: | no, downstairs it's the xbox remoteness and upstairs is a receiver i built and a universal remote |
| [16:55:00] | JonK: | it is |
| [16:55:00] | JonK: | i can't get mythtv to work with the firefly |
| [16:55:00] | CyberKnet: | SarahEmm: so was it asterisk work all weekend, or did you work on the 500 some too? |
| [16:55:00] | SarahEmm: | does lirc work with it? |
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| [16:55:00] | JonK: | yes |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | SarahEmm: you are evil |
| [16:55:00] | SarahEmm: | CyberKnet: my weekend is only half over |
| [16:55:00] | JonK: | uses the atiusb module |
| [16:55:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: puzzlpirates? |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | aye |
| [16:56:00] | JonK: | it loads, irw runs and reports the correct codes |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | was up until almost 4am |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:56:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: funny, i said exactly the same thing to my partner about 2d after i started playing it ;) |
| [16:56:00] | CyberKnet: | SarahEmm: lucky you =) |
| [16:56:00] | JonK: | but in mythtv... nothing |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | and 3am the night before |
| [16:56:00] | SarahEmm: | hehee |
| [16:56:00] | SarahEmm: | i know |
| [16:56:00] | SarahEmm: | you're on midnight? |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [16:56:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh |
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| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | and if I subscribe, I'll be an officer on a pirate ship |
| [16:56:00] | SarahEmm: | jonh: okay, how did you set up the myth end? lirc compiled in? |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | right now, Cabin Boy or whatever it is |
| [16:57:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh |
| [16:57:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: Who's ahoy are you matey'ing with? |
| [16:57:00] | ** SarahEmm is an officer ** | |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | I went on a long adventure down to the south end of the map to bring a friend back to my home island so we load at the same place |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:57:00] | JonK: | i assume so, when i run ./configure it reports "lirc support yes" |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | that took us about 6h |
| [16:58:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: err, what? |
| [16:58:00] | SarahEmm: | could you just use a ferry? |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [16:58:00] | SarahEmm: | couldn't rather |
| [16:58:00] | SarahEmm: | why? |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | 4 archipelagos away |
| [16:58:00] | SarahEmm: | JonK: okay, and you set up the config file? |
| [16:58:00] | JonK: | but i just recompiled starting with "./configure --enable-lirc" |
| [16:58:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: oh... midnight is a much bigger world than mine i think |
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| [16:58:00] | JonK: | but can't test until i get home |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | I lucked out and jobbed my way down there on a pirate ship |
| [16:58:00] | SarahEmm: | jonk: oh, okay.... |
| [16:58:00] | JonK: | puzzle pirates? |
| [16:58:00] | SarahEmm: | did you set up the lirc/myth config file? |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | and about half way back we both jobbed on another |
| [16:58:00] | SarahEmm: | JonK: yeah. |
| [16:59:00] | JonK: | que es? |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | JonK: yup |
| [16:59:00] | SarahEmm: | huh? |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | huh? |
| [16:59:00] | JonK: | setup lircd.conf, and lircrc |
| [16:59:00] | JonK: | what is puzzle pirates |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | there's no ferry service, so we went on pirate ships |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | puzzlepirates.com |
| [16:59:00] | SarahEmm: | JonK: www.puzzlepirates.com |
| [16:59:00] | SarahEmm: | careful tho, it's Very Addictive |
| [16:59:00] | JonK: | i was just going to say.... |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | amend that |
| [16:59:00] | JonK: | i think i'll aviod it for now |
| [16:59:00] | SarahEmm: | okay, you set up lircrc in the .mythtv folder? |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | it's FUCKING Addictive |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [17:00:00] | JonK: | yes |
| [17:00:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: lol. i don't say stuff like that ;) |
| [17:00:00] | JonK: | should it be ".lircrc" or "lircrc" I have the latter |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | lircrc |
| [17:00:00] | CyberKnet: | windows, mac and linux support. nice. |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | I just saved you the trouble |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
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| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: It's a java client |
| [17:00:00] | JonK: | do I need to do anything special for a usb based remote? |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | one of the things Java's good for |
| [17:00:00] | SarahEmm: | jonh: lircrc |
| [17:00:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: that would explain the cross platform-ness |
| [17:00:00] | SarahEmm: | jonk: if lirc works fine with it, that's fine |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | SarahEmm: too late ;) |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:01:00] | JonK: | it appears to |
| [17:01:00] | SarahEmm: | JonK: if irw detects it, nothing different for USB with myth. |
| [17:01:00] | SarahEmm: | jonk: okay, your lircrc file is in the right place? |
| [17:01:00] | SarahEmm: | what's in it? |
| [17:01:00] | JonK: | stuff from /dev/random |
| [17:01:00] | laga: | JonK: why don't ya use greyfoxx' kernel module? |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | SarahEmm: I might sign up on Viridian soon... or I might just pay them their blood money and stay on Midnight |
| [17:01:00] | SarahEmm: | JonK: *sigh* |
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| [17:01:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: lol |
| [17:02:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: wasn't it you who said a couple days ago that you weren't willing to pay for it? ;) |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | or I might do both |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not willing to |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | but I might change my mind :) |
| [17:02:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: GreyFoxx's module works with the firefly? |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:02:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: i think so. i'm not sure, though. it's prolly a matter of an loadtime option. UTSL ;) |
| [17:03:00] | JonK: | took lircrc from mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=27138& |
| [17:03:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: My name is not Luke! |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: sorry. |
| [17:03:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: *grin* |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | UTSU |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | nah, is SF. |
| [17:03:00] | ** Beirdo hides ** | |
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| [17:04:00] | ** Beirdo also hides the sheep ** | |
| [17:04:00] | ** CyberKnet watches his faithful sheep bite beirdo in the ass ** | |
| [17:04:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [17:04:00] | CyberKnet: | Buddy, I keep telling you the sheep like it... |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | a true Aussie.. (snicker) |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | no offense to any others in the channel, of course |
| [17:04:00] | JonK: | i don't even wan't to know what "hide the sheep" means |
| [17:05:00] | SarahEmm: | err, jonk, i don't see an lircrc there... |
| [17:05:00] | CyberKnet: | unlike NZ sheep, that run at the sound of a zipper. |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | you're trying to be Scottish though |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | mmmm. haggis |
| [17:06:00] | CyberKnet: | but that's just the difference between wearing velcro mits, and having caring hands =) |
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| [17:08:00] | JonK: | I know... that's why I'm here asking for help with it... |
| [17:08:00] | ShockValue: | ok, dumb question: is there an easy way to verify that a remote is IR or RF? the reason I ask is because I can get lirc to respond to all of my remotes, except the one I really want to use... |
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| [17:09:00] | SarahEmm: | does it have an IR window at the front or a visible IR led? |
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| [17:09:00] | SarahEmm: | and what brand is the one you want to use? |
| [17:09:00] | ShockValue: | its the one that came with the directv d10–100, but i cant seem to find any documentation for it on the web |
| [17:10:00] | ShockValue: | it does have one of those normal looking red windows in the front of the remote.... hrm |
| [17:10:00] | SarahEmm: | ok.. does it have a window on the front like most remotes? does it work from the next room? |
| [17:10:00] | SarahEmm: | ok, do you have to point it at the device? |
| [17:10:00] | ShockValue: | good question, let me try that.. one sec |
| [17:10:00] | JonK: | SarahEmm: it's the one i have, am willing to get something else if it works |
| [17:10:00] | SarahEmm: | jonk: it doesn't sound like a remote issue |
| [17:10:00] | SarahEmm: | JonK: if irw works, lirc itself and the remote seems okay... |
| [17:10:00] | GeckoFiend: | ShockValue do you have a camcorder? |
| [17:11:00] | SarahEmm: | err wait |
| [17:11:00] | SarahEmm: | that's another way GeckoFiend hehe :) |
| [17:11:00] | SarahEmm: | JonK: can you post your lircd.conf and lircrc on a pastebin? |
| [17:11:00] | Muxen: | Anyone heard of an issue where a (for example) PVR350 watching live tv the picture freezes with a backend message of remote encoder not responding ? |
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| [17:11:00] | ShockValue: | SarahEmm: it does not work from the next room, and it does have a little window up front. I guess that means IR, right? |
| [17:11:00] | SarahEmm: | ShockValue: very likely. |
| [17:12:00] | SarahEmm: | ShockValue: it may well use a strange carrier frequency tho |
| [17:12:00] | SarahEmm: | a few brands of remotes don't use the standard (36kHz i think?) one, so they won't work with some receivers |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | I need sleep |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:12:00] | ShockValue: | whenever i run irrecord and try to use this remote, i get the error "irrecord: no gap detected: cant continue" |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | damn you, pirates! |
| [17:12:00] | ShockValue: | or something like that |
| [17:13:00] | ShockValue: | but if i point my other 2 remotes at it and try it works fine... so im not sure whats up with this remote |
| [17:13:00] | SarahEmm: | ShockValue: oh. it's definately IR then, because RF it just wouldn't detect anything |
| [17:13:00] | SarahEmm: | it may just be a weird protocol or somesuch |
| [17:13:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: lol! |
| [17:13:00] | ShockValue: | dang |
| [17:13:00] | SarahEmm: | sorry |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:14:00] | ** Beirdo is a damn good bilger ** | |
| [17:14:00] | Beirdo: | and a pretty good sailor too |
| [17:14:00] | ShockValue: | im a pretty good carpenter :) |
| [17:14:00] | ** SarahEmm is a good gunner, a soso bilger, and a good carpenter ** | |
| [17:14:00] | SarahEmm: | and a pretty decent sailor |
| [17:14:00] | Beirdo: | I suck at that often, I'm OK at carpentry |
| [17:14:00] | SarahEmm: | and a very good alchemist :) |
| [17:14:00] | Beirdo: | and SUCK at gunning |
| [17:14:00] | SarahEmm: | gunning is my favorite. it maps nicely to air traffic control |
| [17:15:00] | SarahEmm: | a lot of the same concepts kind of apply. |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | you can have it |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:15:00] | SarahEmm: | most ships say the same thing ;) |
| [17:15:00] | SarahEmm: | it's the only thing i can get Excellent ratings on regularly |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | I'm a decent distiller |
| [17:16:00] | Muxen: | anyone with a PVR350 care to share thier modprobe.conf |
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| [17:17:00] | JonK: | for real or for pirates? |
| [17:17:00] | JonK: | in college me and some friends built a three foot reflux column still |
| [17:17:00] | tcube: | Berido: is puzzle pirates free? |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | not really |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | JonK: pirates. I wanna distill IRL, but it's illegal, so screw that |
| [17:18:00] | SarahEmm: | sort of.... |
| [17:18:00] | tcube: | so there is monthly charge? |
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| [17:18:00] | laga: | does anyone have the firmware/drivers for a pvr 250 lying around? i can't find a decent mirror. |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | tcube: yes. there's an "experimental" pay-for-upgrades world that SarahEmm plays on |
| [17:19:00] | SarahEmm: | tcube: there's two options, monthly charge or kind of a 'pay as you go' way of doing it |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | but the rest is subscription |
| [17:19:00] | tcube: | /nod |
| [17:19:00] | SarahEmm: | the latter pay as you go world also lets you trade ingame money for the 'real money' kind if you want.. not converting into real money, but buying things ingame that would normally require real money, using ingame money |
| [17:20:00] | tcube: | /nod |
| [17:20:00] | tcube: | <-- was FFXI addict |
| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | SarahEmm what are the exchange rates like? |
| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | POE->dubloons? |
| [17:21:00] | SarahEmm: | 1000PoE -> 1 dubloon |
| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | that's not too shabby |
| [17:22:00] | SarahEmm: | not awful, no |
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| [17:22:00] | SarahEmm: | considering a pirate badge is 1 dubloon per month |
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| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | so like $0.25/month real money |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | that's not the end of the world :) |
| [17:23:00] | Beirdo: | labour badge is the same? |
| [17:23:00] | Beirdo: | we are just SO off topic :) |
| [17:23:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:24:00] | laga: | ack |
| [17:24:00] | JonK: | i'll have to check it out when i get home |
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| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | my captain caught crap yesterday for calling somebody a "scurvy scupperin' hore" |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | idiot |
| [17:24:00] | kormoc: | woah |
| [17:25:00] | kormoc: | My name is guybrush threepwood, and i want to be a pirate. |
| [17:25:00] | SarahEmm: | LOL! |
| [17:25:00] | SarahEmm: | woooohoo monkey island |
| [17:25:00] | kormoc: | :) |
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| [17:27:00] | CyberKnet: | so when you are out pirating and you get booty, is that in dubloons, and if so can you apply your earnings instead of real cash? |
| [17:27:00] | Muxen: | arrgghh |
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| [17:28:00] | cortezda2imp: | yea not bad |
| [17:28:00] | SarahEmm: | no, you earn pieces of eight |
| [17:28:00] | SarahEmm: | you can convert PoE to dubloons tho |
| [17:28:00] | SarahEmm: | 1000PoE -> 1 dubloon |
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| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | I earned about 2500poe last night |
| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | so... |
| [17:30:00] | JonK: | you'll go buy that scurvy scupperin whore? |
| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | you can easily pay your way if you have a decent crew |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | that whore was in our crew, got pissed off because the captain wouldn't let her gun 5 minutes into joining the crew |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | and started insulting us all |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | the captain shoulda rose above it though |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | and caught crap for it |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | he deserved to get in trouble |
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| [17:32:00] | JonK: | i just saw the chance to use the words "scurvy scupperin'" and took it |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:32:00] | kormoc: | (tis a game?) |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | aye |
| [17:33:00] | kormoc: | name if you don't mind? |
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| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | my name? |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | guess... |
| [17:33:00] | JonK: | puzzlepirates.com |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, that's the URL |
| [17:33:00] | DaveAsh: | hello |
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| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | if you can't guess my pirate name, ya need to put down the crack pipe for a moment :) |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [17:34:00] | ** kormoc puts down the crack pipe for a moment. ** | |
| [17:34:00] | kormoc: | :P |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | it's my nick, silly |
| [17:34:00] | xris: | hmm, fc4... now back to my age-old question of which distro to go with. |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | xris: good morn... and ubuntu |
| [17:34:00] | xris: | lol |
| [17:34:00] | laga: | bah |
| [17:34:00] | laga: | ubuntu |
| [17:34:00] | DaveAsh: | I need some help seems to be mysql related |
| [17:35:00] | xris: | laga: have you seen Starship Surprise? |
| [17:35:00] | JonK: | i like ubuntu |
| [17:35:00] | DaveAsh: | I got the box up & running but can't seem to connect remote frontends to it. |
| [17:35:00] | JonK: | it's like debain, only fresh |
| [17:35:00] | JonK: | dave, is sql visible on the eth0 interface or only the loopback? |
| [17:36:00] | laga: | xris: yep. |
| [17:36:00] | laga: | thanks, i have the stupid space taxi song stuck in my head now |
| [17:36:00] | xris: | laga: I watched it on saturday. other than the crappy theatre where I couldn't see all of the subtitles, I thought it was hillarious. |
| [17:36:00] | xris: | lol, damn, me, too now. |
| [17:36:00] | DaveAsh: | How do I find out? |
| [17:37:00] | laga: | xris: yeah, it's a nice movie |
| [17:37:00] | laga: | xris: did you actually watch it in german with english subs? |
| [17:37:00] | DaveAsh: | must be visable cuase I have a remotely hosted site this is connecting to another mysql database |
| [17:37:00] | xris: | laga: yeah. seattle international film festival was last week. |
| [17:38:00] | JonK: | first, make sure, namp the ip address and make sure you see the mysql port |
| [17:38:00] | JonK: | nmap i mean |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | SarahEmm: we should start a MythTV-users crew.. |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:38:00] | JonK: | yes, more time with you people |
| [17:38:00] | JonK: | i'd like that |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:39:00] | laga: | xris: nice. you'd probably like "der schuhe des manitu" then. almost the same crew, if i recall correctly. |
| [17:39:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: hehe :) |
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| [17:39:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: i'm in the crew my partner started |
| [17:39:00] | DaveAsh: | I set the hostname to the ip addy |
| [17:39:00] | Beirdo: | I think I might start a new pirate on Viridian tonight. We shall see |
| [17:40:00] | SarahEmm: | okay |
| [17:40:00] | SarahEmm: | lemme know if you do |
| [17:40:00] | Beirdo: | I will |
| [17:40:00] | SarahEmm: | i'll give you my piratey name :) |
| [17:40:00] | Beirdo: | and likely bring someone with me |
| [17:40:00] | JonK: | so what dave, it's the visibility of the mysql daemon i want to see |
| [17:40:00] | DaveAsh: | what shall I do? |
| [17:40:00] | JonK: | nmap [ipaddress] |
| [17:41:00] | laga: | lirc SUCKS |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | nmap?! |
| [17:41:00] | DaveAsh: | from the machine I'm trying to connect from? |
| [17:41:00] | SarahEmm: | uhh |
| [17:41:00] | SarahEmm: | why nmap? |
| [17:41:00] | SarahEmm: | just run the mysql client... |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | login to it, and do netstat -a |
| [17:41:00] | SarahEmm: | or that.... |
| [17:41:00] | JonK: | that's two steps |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | or that :) |
| [17:41:00] | JonK: | my way takes one |
| [17:41:00] | DaveAsh: | ifconfig? |
| [17:41:00] | JonK: | yes |
| [17:41:00] | laga: | xris: or check imdb.com for 'michael bully herbig', he's one of the main actors |
| [17:43:00] | DaveAsh: | it's running cause I can use the mythtv from the same machine it's all running on |
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| [17:43:00] | JonK: | but that doens't mean mysql is visible outside of the 127.0.0.1 address |
| [17:43:00] | DaveAsh: | Maybe I should reboot the router who knows? |
| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | GAH |
| [17:43:00] | JonK: | no |
| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | if you are using 127.0.0.1, it is ONLY visible on the local machine |
| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | ever |
| [17:44:00] | JonK: | that's what im saying |
| [17:44:00] | JonK: | if he has mysql bound to that adddress the remote frontend won't see it |
| [17:44:00] | DaveAsh: | It must be cause like I said I have a remote site that works and is connecting to another databse on the same server |
| [17:44:00] | JonK: | cant see it |
| [17:44:00] | DaveAsh: | 192.168.2.232 |
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| [17:48:00] | DaveAsh: | DUh I can't see it either |
| [17:48:00] | DaveAsh: | what do I do to fix it? |
| [17:48:00] | DaveAsh: | I forgot I changed the one I thought I was seeing doh doh doh |
| [17:48:00] | JonK: | mysql.txt? |
| [17:48:00] | DaveAsh: | SO the world can't see it |
| [17:49:00] | DaveAsh: | maybe the upgrade to my box messed up mu hosts file. |
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| [17:49:00] | DaveAsh: | I'll look |
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| [17:53:00] | DaveAsh: | Yes the upgrade messed all my settings up |
| [17:53:00] | DaveAsh: | darn Mandriva... |
| [17:53:00] | laga: | heh |
| [17:53:00] | JonK: | messsed up hosts? |
| [17:54:00] | laga: | 5 minutes till the simpsons and i haven't even installed mythtv yet. |
| [17:54:00] | laga: | *sigh* |
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| [17:58:00] | CyberKnet: | w00t. buy.com has already shipped my card =)) |
| [17:58:00] | CyberKnet: | amazing. |
| [17:58:00] | SarahEmm: | w00t |
| [17:58:00] | JonK: | now you're pimping them? hope you have better luck with them then i |
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| [17:58:00] | CyberKnet: | JonK: don't get me wrong. I would never recommend anyone buy from them. heh. |
| [17:59:00] | CyberKnet: | JonK: I was fully expecing this to take about a month for me to receive the card from them. |
| [17:59:00] | JonK: | did you use the free shipping? |
| [17:59:00] | CyberKnet: | Yes. |
| [17:59:00] | JonK: | it still may take a month then... |
| [17:59:00] | CyberKnet: | I have a tracking number from UPS. |
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| [18:02:00] | DaveAsh: | while it's restarting services how do I tell if it's open to the world? |
| [18:03:00] | JonK: | well gee, nmap 192.x.x.xx might work... |
| [18:03:00] | SarahEmm: | netstat -an |
| [18:05:00] | laga: | fsck, i forgot that my mythtv box was also acting as dhcp server for one of my machines...now the ip lease is gone |
| [18:06:00] | DaveAsh: | nmap localhost don't see mysql |
| [18:06:00] | DaveAsh: | see everything else |
| [18:06:00] | DaveAsh: | httpd |
| [18:06:00] | DaveAsh: | etc |
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| [18:07:00] | SarahEmm: | did you start mysql with the option to listen on TCP |
| [18:07:00] | SarahEmm: | ? |
| [18:07:00] | JonK: | HAH! |
| [18:07:00] | DaveAsh: | not sure |
| [18:08:00] | SarahEmm: | uhh |
| [18:08:00] | SarahEmm: | that's kinda important |
| [18:08:00] | JonK: | check the /etc/my.cnf file for bind 127.0.0.1 |
| [18:08:00] | DaveAsh: | ok |
| [18:08:00] | JonK: | if it's there uncomment |
| [18:08:00] | SarahEmm: | is this just trying to connect to the local box, daveash? |
| [18:08:00] | SarahEmm: | or is the client remote? |
| [18:09:00] | DaveAsh: | i don't see bind in my.cf |
| [18:09:00] | SarahEmm: | do you see port = 3306 ? |
| [18:09:00] | JonK: | or skip-networking |
| [18:09:00] | DaveAsh: | nope nope |
| [18:09:00] | SarahEmm: | err |
| [18:09:00] | JonK: | is it even running/ |
| [18:09:00] | SarahEmm: | you should have a port definition in there |
| [18:09:00] | JonK: | ? |
| [18:09:00] | DaveAsh: | yes |
| [18:09:00] | DaveAsh: | should be 3306 right |
| [18:09:00] | JonK: | yes |
| [18:09:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah |
| [18:10:00] | DaveAsh: | you have a sample my.cf handy |
| [18:10:00] | JonK: | which machine were you runnning nmap localhost on? |
| [18:10:00] | JonK: | the one with the mysql server? |
| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:10:00] | DaveAsh: | ssh to the one running mysql |
| [18:15:00] | DaveAsh: | I can connect via localbox |
| [18:15:00] | DaveAsh: | but not remotely |
| [18:15:00] | DaveAsh: | I just saw your post |
| [18:15:00] | DaveAsh: | up above |
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| [18:17:00] | xris: | Beirdo: so cooktools is moving forward.. guess I should try to get in touch with the mythrecipe author and see if he's interested in changing things around. |
| [18:17:00] | Beirdo: | woohoo |
| [18:17:00] | DaveAsh: | sarah how can I correct this? |
| [18:18:00] | SarahEmm: | err, correct what? |
| [18:18:00] | SarahEmm: | sorry i'm only semihere, coding |
| [18:18:00] | DaveAsh: | the mysql being available to my network? |
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| [18:18:00] | SarahEmm: | okay, can you connect from the local machine? |
| [18:18:00] | DaveAsh: | yes |
| [18:18:00] | SarahEmm: | okay, connecting how? |
| [18:19:00] | DaveAsh: | mysql -u mythtv -p |
| [18:19:00] | SarahEmm: | that'll connect using sockets... |
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| [18:19:00] | SarahEmm: | if you do netstat -an do you see the mysql port? |
| [18:19:00] | DaveAsh: | and it runs ok (frontend on same box) |
| [18:19:00] | SarahEmm: | 3306 |
| [18:19:00] | SarahEmm: | oh.... |
| [18:19:00] | SarahEmm: | what if you connect remotely, what error? |
| [18:20:00] | DaveAsh: | ]I'll look |
| [18:20:00] | DaveAsh: | unable to connect to db |
| [18:20:00] | SarahEmm: | err |
| [18:20:00] | SarahEmm: | when you run mysql? |
| [18:20:00] | SarahEmm: | mysql -u mythtv -p -h <hostname> |
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| [18:21:00] | draek: | Having a problem doing a 'make' on the ivtv drivers. I get a 'cannot find scripts/genksyms/genksyms' |
| [18:22:00] | draek: | Anyone know what thats all about? I linked the /sbin/genksyms to that location, but now i just get a usage printout when i do the make, as if its not the same script. |
| [18:22:00] | DaveAsh: | netstat -an >>netstatoutput.txt |
| [18:22:00] | DaveAsh: | find 3306 no dice |
| [18:24:00] | DaveAsh: | what do I do add a line to my.cf and restart mysqld |
| [18:24:00] | Ray_: | Hello everyone! I am currently researching the hardware needed for a MythTv box, and I cannot seem to find the answers I need. Does anyone know if the Hauppauge 500MCE card is supposed? |
| [18:24:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, maybe reading some mysql docs might be in order |
| [18:24:00] | SarahEmm: | ray: sort of, but a lot of people have issues with it still it seems |
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| [18:25:00] | SarahEmm: | DaveAsh: sorry, i can't walk you through everything, i'm doing too many things at once.. RTFM :) |
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| [18:25:00] | DaveAsh: | ok |
| [18:25:00] | SarahEmm: | Ray_: if you're new to myth i'd say use a PVR-250 (MPEG encoder only) or -350 (MPEG encoder and decoder) |
| [18:25:00] | SarahEmm: | the -150 and -500 still have some kinks to work out |
| [18:25:00] | Ray_: | oh |
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| [18:27:00] | Ray_: | From what I have read so far alot of people seem to be using the 150 model? Now one other question... this might sound weird but am I able to use one of the Hauppauge cards that support tv out and get rid of the video card after install? Or must I have the tv connected to the tv-out on the video card |
| [18:28:00] | kormoc: | the 350 works as a videocard out. |
| [18:28:00] | Ray_: | what about the 250? |
| [18:28:00] | SarahEmm: | 250 has no out, just in |
| [18:28:00] | ananke: | Ray_ : i'm not an expert, but my coworker just got a 150, and he had a lot of problems with it. i think he switched to 250 |
| [18:29:00] | SarahEmm: | ray: the -150 is technically working, as is the -500, but they're new and some people can't get them working at all for various technical reasons |
| [18:29:00] | ananke: | Ray_ : and it 'may' be easier to get a cheap nvidia card for your tv out |
| [18:29:00] | SarahEmm: | for your best chance at getting everything working first try, i'd stick with the -250 or -350 if you're new to this for now |
| [18:29:00] | SarahEmm: | and yes, the -350 has a TV out |
| [18:29:00] | ** ananke uses 350 and nvidia card for tv-out ** | |
| [18:30:00] | Ray_: | Ok... I am just looking for the cheapest solution at the moment, but come to think of it I think the Nvidia card that is in the system I will be using has tv-out... |
| [18:30:00] | ** SarahEmm 's backend is just a backend, so has no out ** | |
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| [18:32:00] | Ray_: | Do the Avermedia brand cards utilize a hardware decoder? Or do they run off of software? |
| [18:32:00] | SarahEmm: | some of each |
| [18:32:00] | SarahEmm: | depends on the card |
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| [18:35:00] | Ray_: | How about the Avermedia 1500 model? |
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| [18:37:00] | SarahEmm: | way too mcuh going on, bbl. |
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| [18:38:00] | kormoc: | Ray_, you could look it up yourself. |
| [18:38:00] | Ray_: | I am looking... |
| [18:38:00] | kormoc: | ananke, owning a 350 and using the nvidia card for tv out is nutty imho. the 350's out is so much better. |
| [18:39:00] | laga: | but it ucks for mythgame. |
| [18:39:00] | laga: | sucks* |
| [18:40:00] | kormoc: | ahh, point. |
| [18:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | It depends on what you use it for. If you don't use withgame it's not a bad solution |
| [18:41:00] | laga: | what about divx? |
| [18:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is an mplayer patch which should make that a viable option |
| [18:42:00] | Ray_: | Does the patch support Xvid? |
| [18:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | The patch doesn't support any particular codec |
| [18:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's to tell mplayer how to handle the hardware |
| [18:42:00] | Ray_: | oh ok |
| [18:42:00] | ananke: | kormoc, i can use the nvidia for other things, and overall i found it easier |
| [18:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | And if it's anything like the dxr3 decoder patch it causes the machine to do transcoding on the fly |
| [18:43:00] | ShockValue: | well crud.. im trying to switch from mplayer to xine but i cant seem to get xine to play anything (wife insists on DVD menus :) |
| [18:43:00] | ShockValue: | comes up, just get a black screen and nothing plays |
| [18:43:00] | Ray_: | Does anyone here use a media remote to take the place of the keyboard and mouse? Such as the ATI AIW remotes? |
| [18:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use a Niveus remote which is a variant of the Remote Wonder and lola remotes |
| [18:45:00] | dsegel: | I'm using the Hauppauge remote that came with my 350. Actually, I've learned the codes onto an MX500, but it's esentially the Hauppauge remote |
| [18:46:00] | dsegel: | I have a wireless USB keyboard as well but don't need/use it most of the time |
| [18:46:00] | Ray_: | How good is the directional pad for taking place of the mouse? |
| [18:46:00] | JonK: | I'm trying to get a snapstream firefly working right now |
| [18:46:00] | dsegel: | Within MythTV? the d-pad is fine, no problems at all |
| [18:46:00] | dsegel: | the only thing I don't like using the remote for is entering search terms |
| [18:47:00] | dsegel: | it's like texting on a phone, but not quite as precise, and I don't have the backspace key mapped (yet) so correcting typos is a pain |
| [18:47:00] | Ray_: | ouch |
| [18:48:00] | laga: | some remotes come with an integrated keyboard |
| [18:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I almost never have to enter any alpha info so I just have a wireless keyboard nearby |
| [18:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Got any examples? I had a link to one that f.lipped open to have a keyboard inside but the link is long dead |
| [18:48:00] | Ray_: | Has anyone used the ATI AIW remotes? I'm just curious because of the mini joystick that is on them... |
| [18:48:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i'm afraid i dont have it anymore. let me look... |
| [18:49:00] | dsegel: | BTW – ShockValue – I have xine working with menus and all for playing DVDs and DVD images I have on my server |
| [18:49:00] | dsegel: | I used to just rip the files and play them with XBMC, but now I convert them to .iso's so Myth can send them to xine |
| [18:50:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: sorry, i can't find it anymore. |
| [18:50:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i'll try to remember and get back to you. |
| [18:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool :) |
| [18:54:00] | Ray_: | Hey GreyFoxx, is that Niveus remote still being sold? on the Niveus media site they show the picture of it with some information, but I can't find it in the store |
| [18:54:00] | Ray_: | *Niveus online store |
| [18:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Weird, it was there |
| [18:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I see it up on pcalchemy.com though |
| [18:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.pcalchemy.com/product_info.php/pNa . . . ote-controls |
| [18:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's where most people I know get them |
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| [19:04:00] | Marax: | hello :) can anyone tell me how i remove plugins? |
| [19:04:00] | rtsai: | Marax: you can do a "make uninstall" |
| [19:05:00] | rtsai: | or just start removng stuff from /usr/local/lib/mythtv/plugins |
| [19:05:00] | Marax: | will do |
| [19:05:00] | Marax: | since i installed mythtv from apt |
| [19:05:00] | JonK: | apt-get remove mythplugins |
| [19:06:00] | rtsai: | you want to remove *all* plugins, or just some? |
| [19:06:00] | Marax: | that will take em all |
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| [19:06:00] | rtsai: | yeah |
| [19:06:00] | Marax: | i want to remove some |
| [19:06:00] | rtsai: | i think you can just pick and choose stuff to delete; then you'll likely have to restart mythfrontend |
| [19:06:00] | JonK: | what version of mythtv? |
| [19:06:00] | Marax: | it wont matter, i'm just testing |
| [19:07:00] | Marax: | 0.18 |
| [19:07:00] | JonK: | i thought the packaging, prior to .18... |
| [19:07:00] | JonK: | (way plugin by plugin) |
| [19:07:00] | Marax: | i'm not acually sure, i did a rpm -q mythtv |
| [19:08:00] | Marax: | and it told me .18 |
| [19:09:00] | Marax: | uhh |
| [19:09:00] | Marax: | i dont have any /usr/local/lib/mythtv.. |
| [19:09:00] | rtsai: | try /usr/lib/mythtv/... |
| [19:09:00] | Marax: | maybe i'll just remove all plugins and install the ones i want |
| [19:10:00] | Marax: | bloody hell |
| [19:10:00] | Marax: | apt removed the entire suite |
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| [19:19:00] | Marax: | nvm |
| [19:19:00] | Marax: | it works now :) |
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| [19:21:00] | Marax: | i'm testing myth and stuff now, later i will make a new box to use for htpc purposes |
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| [19:28:00] | ShockValue: | arg.. i figured out what was wrong with this remote i think.. you have to program it with codes, but it leaves the keys totally blank for buttons that it doesnt use for that device |
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| [19:28:00] | ShockValue: | so unless i find a device in the list that actually uses all teh buttons, some of them just arent gonna work |
| [19:28:00] | ShockValue: | i think :) |
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| [19:36:00] | Marax: | i have another question |
| [19:36:00] | Marax: | can i import playlists from winamp or whatever to myth? |
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| [19:57:00] | rah: | why does myth freeze for an age when changing to a channel that won't tune? |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | you might need to give more details than that |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | such as what is your setup? |
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| [19:59:00] | rah: | dvb card |
| [19:59:00] | rah: | one machine |
| [19:59:00] | rah: | PAL |
| [19:59:00] | rah: | what else do you need? |
| [20:01:00] | ** rah pokes Beirdo ** | |
| [20:01:00] | rtsai: | myth just doesn't do very well when there is no signal coming in |
| [20:01:00] | kormoc: | maybe like, is there a moth stuck to your ceiling fan? cause like, that's a bug man, that's a bug! |
| [20:03:00] | rah: | O_o |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | DVB... |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | if there's no signal, it will gack |
| [20:05:00] | rah: | ok, why does it take an age to recover from "gack"ing? |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | I think that's the drivers not responding for large amounts of time, but a DVB expert will have to confirm that |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | #dvb may be able to shed some light on that specific issue |
| [20:06:00] | Chutt: | it's not the drivers |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | no? |
| [20:06:00] | Chutt: | of course not |
| [20:06:00] | rah: | the frontend keeps issuing reports |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | OK, that was the assumption I was making. so if there's no signal, the drivers properly return an error? |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | ahh. |
| [20:06:00] | rah: | it's not locked |
| [20:06:00] | Chutt: | yup |
| [20:07:00] | rah: | +b |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | It looks like someone has some work to do |
| [20:07:00] | rah: | it just takes far too long to time out |
| [20:07:00] | ** Beirdo gives dopester80211 the evil eye ** | |
| [20:07:00] | Chutt: | there's an in progress patch on the dev list |
| [20:07:00] | rah: | k |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | cool. I really need to find time to read up again. vacation and all. hehe |
| [20:07:00] | rah: | which screen do I use to change the default channel? |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | it's in the setup |
| [20:08:00] | rah: | heh |
| [20:08:00] | rah: | which setup? :) |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | I think card config, I can't remember |
| [20:08:00] | rah: | k |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | the setup program |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | mythsetup now, I think |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | been a while since I've had to run it |
| [20:09:00] | rah: | hmm |
| [20:09:00] | rah: | it's in the channel source input setup |
| [20:09:00] | rah: | and it's right :/ |
| [20:10:00] | Chutt: | restart the backend for changes in that to take effect |
| [20:10:00] | Chutt: | starting channel's only read on startup |
| [20:10:00] | rah: | startup of what? |
| [20:10:00] | rah: | ah |
| [20:10:00] | rah: | backend |
| [20:12:00] | Marax: | mythtv cabletv? |
| [20:13:00] | rah: | when browsing the on-screen program guide, it seems to forget where it is sometimes, and forget which set of program information it should be using |
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| [20:13:00] | rah: | is that normal? |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | Hmm, I've never seen that, but I don't use DVB. |
| [20:18:00] | rah: | hmm |
| [20:18:00] | rah: | why would the backend be trying to start up the dvb card on a channel that isn't the default? |
| [20:19:00] | rah: | hmm |
| [20:19:00] | rah: | should I stop the backend when running mythtv-setup ? |
| [20:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | You only need to restart the backend after making your changes in mythtv-setup |
| [20:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | doesn'tneed to be stopped while you are in there |
| [20:21:00] | rah: | strange |
| [20:21:00] | rah: | even stranger is that there seems to be a plethora of duplicate channels in my EPG :/ |
| [20:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | You could try enabling verbose info to see more details about what mythfrontend is doing, and even look at the mysql logs to see what query is being used to gather the info mythfrontend is using |
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| [20:25:00] | rah: | I suspect the DB is screwed |
| [20:25:00] | rah: | wrt channels |
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| [20:28:00] | tcube: | rah: I have the same problem, it seems that the channel entry from mythtv dvb scanning and the data input from zap2it is different |
| [20:28:00] | rah: | well |
| [20:28:00] | rah: | there's that for a start |
| [20:28:00] | rah: | then there's the fact that there's 2 of them :) |
| [20:29:00] | rah: | tcube: have you run mythfilldatabase --manual ? |
| [20:29:00] | tcube: | nope :( |
| [20:29:00] | rah: | tcube: have you read the howto? |
| [20:29:00] | rah: | the main docs? |
| [20:30:00] | tcube: | I dump the sql database and looking at it atm |
| [20:30:00] | rah: | tcube: did you read the howto? |
| [20:30:00] | tcube: | yes |
| [20:30:00] | rah: | tcube: did you look for info in there on how to configure the channels? |
| [20:30:00] | Chutt: | he doesn't need to configure the channels |
| [20:31:00] | rah: | I'm just interested in whether I'm the only one that missed the info in the howto |
| [20:31:00] | tcube: | rah: you mean the documentation from mythtv.org? |
| [20:31:00] | rah: | tcube: yes |
| [20:32:00] | Chutt: | he's using zap2it, so it doesn't even apply to him |
| [20:32:00] | tcube: | I read it. but there is not a lot of information |
| [20:32:00] | rah: | hmm |
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| [20:34:00] | tcube: | I found some information at http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb2.html mentioned that you can manually edit channel setting. still trying to figure it out :P |
| [20:34:00] | ** rah waits a few hours for myth to re-scan :( ** | |
| [20:35:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: here? |
| [20:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga yup |
| [20:35:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: 'wireless keyboard' made by 'q-sonic' |
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| [20:37:00] | draek: | Got IVTV and MythTV installed ok, I can go into the frontend, and can run the backend. But the backend gives errors when trying to watch LiveTV |
| [20:37:00] | draek: | NVR: Won't work with the streaming interface, falling back |
| [20:37:00] | draek: | TVRec: Recording Prematurely Stopped |
| [20:38:00] | draek: | Does anyone know why this might happen? |
| [20:38:00] | Chutt: | you told it you had a bttv card, not an ivtv card |
| [20:40:00] | sphing: | anyone got a cle266 ? |
| [20:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im installing mythtv on a fc3 core, and my connection gets timed out while doing atp-get dist-upgrade |
| [20:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it works on one of the severs |
| [20:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but on the other server, i time out |
| [20:41:00] | draek: | Chutt: How did I tell it that? I dont know where to specify this. |
| [20:42:00] | Chutt: | uh, in the capture card setup screen? |
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| [20:42:00] | Chutt: | the very first thing on that page is a big 'Card Type' |
| [20:43:00] | Chutt: | you left it at the default, instead of telling it you had an ivtv-based card. |
| [20:43:00] | JonK: | exit |
| [20:43:00] | JonK: | ls |
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| [20:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | can anyone help me? |
| [20:44:00] | Chutt: | JohnnyQuest, yes, someone here can magically make a server they don't control start responding. |
| [20:44:00] | draek: | Chutt: Ok, so I went in there, and changed the card type to the PVR-250 (i didnt see that option, i assumed default) |
| [20:45:00] | draek: | Chutt: Now I'm getting even more errors, its complaining about audio and video codecs |
| [20:45:00] | draek: | Chutt: I went to the TV Settings, and its all setup for MPEG-2 |
| [20:45:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well, is there another serveR? |
| [20:45:00] | Chutt: | i can't quite read your mind, think louder |
| [20:46:00] | ** rah bets Chutt can't say the words "I don't know" ** | |
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| [20:46:00] | draek: | lol |
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| [20:46:00] | rob_: | Are there any mythtv packages for Sarge? |
| [20:47:00] | draek: | Chutt: You can't quite read my mind? Why do you need to.. lol |
| [20:47:00] | rob_: | all the unstable packages are linked to a version of libraries only available in SID |
| [20:47:00] | Chutt: | draek, because i don't know what the problem is if you don't paste an error message? |
| [20:47:00] | rah: | JohnnyQuest: is this an apt problem, or a mythtv problem? |
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| [20:47:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its my install for mythtv |
| [20:47:00] | draek: | Chutt: It says "Unknown video codec, Assuming RTjpeg for now, Unknown audio codec, Won't work with the streaming interface, falling back" |
| [20:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i guess its a apt problem cuz i cant get the files from apt... |
| [20:48:00] | draek: | Chutt: VIDOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument |
| [20:48:00] | Chutt: | you didn't restart the backend |
| [20:48:00] | Chutt: | or you didn't save the card type change |
| [20:48:00] | rah: | JohnnyQuest: what are you using to install? |
| [20:48:00] | draek: | Chutt: K, let me see |
| [20:49:00] | rah: | JohnnyQuest: nm |
| [20:49:00] | draek: | Chutt: Ok all that stuff is gone now. but it still doesn't work |
| [20:49:00] | draek: | error reading from: /dev/video0 |
| [20:49:00] | draek: | read: Input/output error |
| [20:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | the terminal, then im using apt-get mythtv-suite |
| [20:49:00] | Chutt: | that means your ivtv drivers are broken. |
| [20:49:00] | rah: | JohnnyQuest: can you install anything else with apt? |
| [20:49:00] | draek: | Chutt: The dmesg from the modprobe ivtv was totally ifne |
| [20:49:00] | Chutt: | so? |
| [20:49:00] | Chutt: | if myth can't read from it, it's broken. |
| [20:49:00] | draek: | Chutt: I installed 0.3.6, maybe i'll try 0.2 |
| [20:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [20:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, not from the server the mythtv-suit is on |
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| [20:50:00] | rah: | I see |
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| [20:50:00] | rah: | is the server the mythtv-suie is on up? |
| [20:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | no |
| [20:50:00] | rah: | +t |
| [20:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | is there another one? |
| [20:50:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [20:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thats all im trying to find... |
| [20:51:00] | Chutt: | server's go down |
| [20:51:00] | rah: | I have absolutely no idea |
| [20:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [20:51:00] | Chutt: | nobody here can do anythinig about it, until it's back up |
| [20:51:00] | rah: | I don't know what mythtv-suite is |
| [20:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its for fc3 |
| [20:51:00] | rah: | I gathered that.. |
| [20:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [20:51:00] | rah: | have you used google to search for a mirror? |
| [20:52:00] | rah: | byy typing in something like "mythtv-suite fc3 mirror"? |
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| [20:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [20:52:00] | cortezda2imp: | good afternoon |
| [20:53:00] | cortezda2imp: | anyone here use mythstreamtv? |
| [20:53:00] | rah: | JohnnyQuest: and what do you think that means? |
| [20:53:00] | draek: | Chutt: Now I installed 0.2, doesn't give any error messages, but takes too long and bails (over 15 seconds) |
| [20:53:00] | Chutt: | still broken |
| [20:54:00] | draek: | lol |
| [20:54:00] | draek: | um ok |
| [20:54:00] | Chutt: | i can't fix ivtv problems |
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| [20:54:00] | rah: | w00t |
| [20:54:00] | laga: | draek: try first with mplayer or something like that. |
| [20:54:00] | Marax: | can i use my gamepad in myth? |
| [20:54:00] | rah: | jackson verdict, btw |
| [20:54:00] | draek: | the rest of the world is using it |
| [20:54:00] | draek: | i dont see why mine is "broken" |
| [20:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i think that means, wait till tomrrow, or the server is permenately down, or compile it... |
| [20:54:00] | laga: | draek: and probably post your dmesg ivtv stuff to pastebin.ca |
| [20:54:00] | Chutt: | because the driver's crappy, and doesn't work for everyone? |
| [20:55:00] | rah: | FFS |
| [20:56:00] | ** rah kicks mythtv for taking hours to scan for dvb channels ** | |
| [20:56:00] | rah: | the jury in the jackson trial is going to come back with a verdict and I don't have any live TV! |
| [20:56:00] | rah: | grrrrr :P |
| [20:57:00] | draek: | http://pastebin.ca/14354 |
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| [20:57:00] | draek: | laga, theres the pastebin results of the ivtv in dmesg |
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| [20:58:00] | draek: | laga: seems it thinks I have a PVR-150 because it can't see my model? I have a Hauppage PVR-250 |
| [20:58:00] | draek: | but it still loads it fine as far as I can see |
| [20:58:00] | draek: | Theres a couple error messages at the bottom, but i'm not sure what those are |
| [20:58:00] | Chutt: | have you tried using it outside of myth? |
| [20:58:00] | draek: | ivtv: i2c client addr: 0x44 not found! |
| [20:58:00] | draek: | Um, I dont know how else to try it |
| [20:59:00] | Tommck: | anyone in here have HD3000 driver suggestions? I was going to try upgrading drivers to see if it helps with my signal issues on one channel (I think I'm getting multipath issues) |
| [20:59:00] | Chutt: | there's plenty of info on how to do that |
| [20:59:00] | laga: | draek: dunno, i'd suggest that you talk to the ivtv guys |
| [20:59:00] | Tommck: | should I jump to DVB? |
| [20:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've seen that particular message on the ivtv mailling list recently |
| [20:59:00] | Chutt: | and, yes, the misdetection as a pvr-150 is going to cause problems |
| [20:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | You might want want to look at the archives there |
| [20:59:00] | Marax: | what tvcard should i use? i beleve i will have cabletv soon |
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| [21:01:00] | draek: | The drivers 0.3.6 detected my card just fine... man this blows ass. |
| [21:01:00] | Chutt: | get it working outside of myth, first. |
| [21:01:00] | Chutt: | read the docs that came with ivtv |
| [21:02:00] | draek: | oh i have, trust me |
| [21:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | and check the ivtv mailing list, and the #ivtv-dev channel |
| [21:02:00] | Chutt: | and until it works outside of myth, you really need to talk to the ivtv people |
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| [21:10:00] | draek: | the ivtv-dev channel is dead, anyone know how to specify or force a specific model? i've seen someone's output said they forced it as opposed to auto-detected it |
| [21:10:00] | draek: | when loading a module |
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| [21:19:00] | tcube: | Tommck, I tried atsc and dvb both. they are about the same. but I decide to use dvb instead |
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| [21:24:00] | Tommck: | tcube – wow... didn't realize someone was responding. cool.. thanks for the suggestion |
| [21:24:00] | Tommck: | I just realized that my kernel's too old though |
| [21:24:00] | Tommck: | 2.6.5 |
| [21:25:00] | Chutt: | the v4l drivers for the hd-x000 are being deprecated |
| [21:25:00] | tcube: | I think in the readme file comes with the cd saying that the development will be focus on dvb in the future |
| [21:25:00] | Chutt: | so the only thing supported will be dvb in the future |
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| [21:25:00] | Tommck: | Chutt – yeah, I heard... I'll upgrade kernels soon, I guess |
| [21:26:00] | tcube: | tommck: I think you need 2.6.12-r2 to have dvb hd3000 support in the kernel, right now. I am using the driver from pchdtv |
| [21:27:00] | Tommck: | tcube – yeah, that's about right |
| [21:27:00] | Tommck: | tcube – ahh.. riht |
| [21:27:00] | Tommck: | right |
| [21:27:00] | tcube: | haha |
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| [21:42:00] | KarlosII: | me curses |
| [21:42:00] | KarlosII: | Your new site to replace tvtome.com is complete TOOOOOO FLASH INTENSIVE and IN YOUR FACE, I prefer the old tvtome.com simple html. |
| [21:42:00] | KarlosII: | http://www.cnetnetworks.com/feedback.html |
| [21:43:00] | KarlosII: | email cnet and tell them u hate it |
| [21:43:00] | KarlosII: | tv.com |
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| [21:46:00] | JonK: | what, you don't like POWER MAX, TO THE EXTREME! |
| [21:47:00] | JonK: | poochie would be sad :( |
| [21:47:00] | ** Tommck uses FlashBlock.. says "what Flash?" ** | |
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| [21:47:00] | JonK: | hmmmm..... |
| [21:48:00] | JonK: | guess everyone's to anxiously awaiting the Michael Jackson verdict |
| [21:48:00] | Tommck: | yeah... the problem is that, even if he's guilty, he won't go to Federal Pound Me In The Ass Prison |
| [21:48:00] | JonK: | of course not, he's been charged with violating STATE laws |
| [21:49:00] | Tommck: | JonK – pttthhhh... |
| [21:49:00] | kormoc: | he'd enjoy federal prision too much |
| [21:49:00] | ** Tommck grumbles about JonK ruining a perfectly good Office Space reference ** | |
| [21:49:00] | Tommck: | kormoc – he'd be dead in a week |
| [21:49:00] | kormoc: | but what a week! |
| [21:49:00] | Tommck: | lol |
| [21:50:00] | Tommck: | he'd be obliterated in prison.. he'd have a very painful death |
| [21:50:00] | Tommck: | that's why he'll be isolated from anyone else if he's convicted. |
| [21:50:00] | Tommck: | maybe put him under "house arrest" and let him stay in Neverland for the rest of his life. |
| [21:50:00] | JonK: | so how would that be different for him? can you think of a more isolated person? |
| [21:51:00] | kormoc: | other then the kiddies? |
| [21:51:00] | Tommck: | JonK – he likes to keep company with little children... he'd have to abuse himself instead |
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| [21:54:00] | elysium702: | 'lo * |
| [21:54:00] | CyberKnet: | abuse himself. that's a pretty awful concept |
| [21:55:00] | ** Tommck has been abusing himself for years ;) ** | |
| [21:55:00] | CyberKnet: | elysium702: lo: No route to host |
| [21:55:00] | elysium702: | does anyone use a DVB-C card with MythTV? |
| [21:55:00] | CyberKnet: | elysium702: Nope, nobody does. It was implemented just to see if it would work, and now we dont know, because nobody has DVB-C |
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| [21:56:00] | elysium702: | no one, nowhere, ever? :-| |
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| [21:56:00] | rob_: | How come when I playback video on my BT848 card it skips? xawtv works fine.. is there some setting I can lower, or maybe force a high priority proccess on the backend? |
| [21:57:00] | rob_: | bt878 actually |
| [21:57:00] | CyberKnet: | elysium702: nobody, anywhever, for any reason whatsoever. Unless I am not the entire MythTV userbase. At which point in time you'd be wise not to listen any more. |
| [21:58:00] | CyberKnet: | rob_: xawtv doesn't encode then decode the video, it just blits it onto the screen. What compression codec did you choose? |
| [21:58:00] | Tommck: | CyberKnet - :) |
| [21:58:00] | rob_: | I think I chose mpeg4, thought it transcoded it after it recorded it however |
| [21:58:00] | CyberKnet: | Tommck: it pays to be an ass, sometimes. |
| [21:59:00] | Tommck: | CyberKnet – lol |
| [21:59:00] | elysium702: | so is watching Cable through DVB-C card legal? |
| [21:59:00] | CyberKnet: | rob_: You need to know what codec it is encoding it with as it records, not when it transcodes. |
| [21:59:00] | rob_: | how do I find out? I don't remember setting that |
| [21:59:00] | CyberKnet: | recording profiles |
| [21:59:00] | ** laga is using dvb-c via a modified dboxII and thinks that it makes him pretty cool. ** | |
| [21:59:00] | elysium702: | i just want to watch the channels i already subscribe to, but have the ability to record and watch in higher quality. |
| [21:59:00] | elysium702: | laga: dboxII? |
| [22:00:00] | rob_: | I'm looking around in mythtv-setup and don't see anything about codec's |
| [22:00:00] | CyberKnet: | rob_: inside the front end |
| [22:00:00] | laga: | elysium702: yeah. a set top box with an ethernet port, modified to run www.tuxbox.org |
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| [22:01:00] | CyberKnet: | Esotericisms: you know, every time I see your ip I think of homestar runner =) |
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| [22:02:00] | rob_: | I see options to use stuff like libmpeg and deinterlacing which aren't set, but still can't find the codec's, can you give me a hint which setup menu it's under? |
| [22:02:00] | laga: | rob_: recording/transcoding profiles |
| [22:03:00] | elysium702: | laga: looks very kewl... complicated, though... |
| [22:03:00] | laga: | elysium702: yeah, took me three days to get the new OS on the bloody box...well, i spent one day trying to open the box because i didn' |
| [22:04:00] | laga: | t have the right screwdriver handy |
| [22:04:00] | rob_: | okay now how to I tell mythtv which profile to use? |
| [22:04:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: hah =) That sucks |
| [22:04:00] | laga: | elysium702: anyways, a dvb-c pci solution might be better for your needs. |
| [22:04:00] | CyberKnet: | rob_: when you set up a recording you tell it which recording profile to use. what profiles do you have listed? Probably LiveTV and a few more |
| [22:04:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: guess what...one month later, i needed the same screwdriver to open my external hdd and i still hadn't bought it ;) |
| [22:04:00] | rob_: | correct, but it doesn't just use the last one I opened right? |
| [22:05:00] | rob_: | I must have to tell it to default to a certain profile |
| [22:05:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: lol |
| [22:06:00] | CyberKnet: | I don't hae any shots of the setup screen |
| [22:06:00] | CyberKnet: | you're going to have to answer my question |
| [22:06:00] | CyberKnet: | what recording profiles are present? |
| [22:06:00] | elysium702: | laga: methinks so, too.. I saw this TECHNOTREND TT PCline Premium C2100, Rev. 2.1 and thinking about buying it.. but it's quite expensive, and i wouldn't like to be forced to use a win32 solution... so i wondered if anyone knew about linux support |
| [22:06:00] | rob_: | Oh sorry, Live TV, high quality and low quality |
| [22:07:00] | CyberKnet: | By default I'm pretty sure it uses low quality |
| [22:07:00] | CyberKnet: | go into low quality and see what codec it is recording as |
| [22:07:00] | laga: | elysium702: i hear that the technotrend stuff is well supported in linux...why don't ya give the guys at linuxtv.org a visit? |
| [22:08:00] | rob_: | RTjpeg |
| [22:08:00] | rob_: | under Software Encoders (V4L) there is also Transcoders menu which I assume doesn't apply right now |
| [22:08:00] | CyberKnet: | not right now. |
| [22:09:00] | CyberKnet: | what other options do you have other than RTjpeg? |
| [22:09:00] | rob_: | MPEG4 |
| [22:09:00] | CyberKnet: | what processor is in that box? |
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| [22:10:00] | SarahEmm: | has anyone seen a problem in .18-r1 that sometimes when you hit a commercial break, it goes back to the beginning of the recording? |
| [22:10:00] | rob_: | 1.7ghz |
| [22:11:00] | SarahEmm: | CBC (a channel) does that here, but no other channels do |
| [22:11:00] | CyberKnet: | rob_: !! |
| [22:11:00] | rob_: | ? |
| [22:12:00] | rob_: | it's a 1.7 |
| [22:12:00] | CyberKnet: | and the problem was that it is having trouble playing back recordings, right? |
| [22:12:00] | Tommck: | a 1.7 should be able to handle low-def stuff |
| [22:12:00] | CyberKnet: | Tommck: that's where I was getting to |
| [22:12:00] | rob_: | Right it's skipping when I try to watch live TV |
| [22:12:00] | rob_: | err or even playback |
| [22:13:00] | rob_: | but I assume it's dropping the frames when it's recording |
| [22:13:00] | CyberKnet: | be more descriptive about what you see when it is "skipping" |
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| [22:13:00] | Tommck: | rob_ might be a bad assumption |
| [22:13:00] | ** SarahEmm is running a 1.7 celeron ** | |
| [22:13:00] | SarahEmm: | rob_: what tv card, and is DMA on on your hard drive? |
| [22:13:00] | ** Tommck loves seeing chicks in here... makes me feel like less of a dork ** | |
| [22:13:00] | CyberKnet: | SarahEmm: He has a bt8x8 |
| [22:13:00] | SarahEmm: | lol |
| [22:13:00] | SarahEmm: | mythtv rocks :) |
| [22:13:00] | rob_: | It's a BT878 chip I believe |
| [22:13:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh, me too! :) |
| [22:13:00] | ** SarahEmm running software MPEG4 on a bt878 on a celeron 1.7 ** | |
| [22:13:00] | ** Tommck also thinks that calling them "chicks" really makes him look good in their eyes :) ** | |
| [22:14:00] | SarahEmm: | DMA on on the hard drive? |
| [22:14:00] | rob_: | lemme check, I believe so |
| [22:14:00] | SarahEmm: | Tommck: lol! :o) |
| [22:14:00] | SarahEmm: | doesn't bother me. *shruG* |
| [22:14:00] | CyberKnet: | Tommck: "might be a bad assumption" |
| [22:14:00] | CyberKnet: | =P" |
| [22:14:00] | ** kormoc thinks Tommck needs to take some anti delusional meds "{ ** | |
| [22:14:00] | kormoc: | :P |
| [22:14:00] | ** SarahEmm doesn't mind. ** | |
| [22:14:00] | kormoc: | SarahEmm, doesn't bother you, but that doesn't mean it makes him look good to you :P |
| [22:14:00] | ** Tommck is already married, so I guess it doesn't matter ;) ** | |
| [22:14:00] | SarahEmm: | of course, i'm not exactly the kind of person you want to be going after |
| [22:15:00] | Tommck: | Sarah – why is that? |
| [22:15:00] | SarahEmm: | Tommck: and i'm already a lesbian, so i guess it doesn't either :) |
| [22:15:00] | Tommck: | mmmmm... lesbians... :) |
| [22:15:00] | Tommck: | ooh.. did that come out out loud? |
| [22:15:00] | kormoc: | SarahEmm, now you did it, you're gonna have a cult following for sure... |
| [22:15:00] | CyberKnet: | how many groups do you think Tommck can piss off in one day? =) |
| [22:15:00] | rob_: | I guess I do'nt know how to test if DMA is on |
| [22:15:00] | Tommck: | Michael Jackson is getting off scott friggin free |
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| [22:16:00] | Tommck: | not guilty, not guilty, not guilty, not guilty.... |
| [22:16:00] | SarahEmm: | rob: run hdparm /dev/<hard drive device> |
| [22:16:00] | SarahEmm: | wherever your ringbuffer is |
| [22:16:00] | CyberKnet: | rob_: /sbin/hdparm /dev/<drive> |
| [22:16:00] | laga: | crap, i missed the x-files |
| [22:16:00] | rob_: | yes it is on |
| [22:16:00] | SarahEmm: | kormoc: lol, i don't exactly hide it *shrug* |
| [22:16:00] | SarahEmm: | Tommck: yep, out loud. oops ;) |
| [22:16:00] | kormoc: | heh, fair nuff :P |
| [22:16:00] | SarahEmm: | rob_: hmmmmmmmmm. |
| [22:17:00] | SarahEmm: | rob: what's your CPU load at when watching rough tv? |
| [22:17:00] | SarahEmm: | uhh |
| [22:17:00] | SarahEmm: | live tv |
| [22:17:00] | SarahEmm: | that was odd. |
| [22:17:00] | kormoc: | rob_, anything else running on the box? |
| [22:17:00] | CyberKnet: | that *was* odd |
| [22:17:00] | Tommck: | SarahEmm – you know some guys would find it a bigger challenge :) |
| [22:17:00] | rob_: | nope |
| [22:17:00] | Tommck: | Sarah – Freudian slip? :) |
| [22:18:00] | rob_: | maybe it's set to high quality, how do I know |
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| [22:18:00] | SarahEmm: | Tommck: yeah, some would. *shrug* |
| [22:18:00] | SarahEmm: | Tommck: lol. not sure... i don't think so? |
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| [22:18:00] | CyberKnet: | Tommck: Considering all of Freud's theories, I put it to you that just *mentioning* freud is a freudian slip. |
| [22:18:00] | SarahEmm: | rob: what's your load average when live tv-ing? |
| [22:18:00] | Tommck: | Sarah – what's your CPU load when watching rough tv, err... live sex...err.. I mean...umm... forget it |
| [22:19:00] | SarahEmm: | lol :P |
| [22:19:00] | SarahEmm: | not :P |
| [22:19:00] | Tommck: | uh huh |
| [22:19:00] | GeckoFiend: | Tommck that's enough. |
| [22:20:00] | CyberKnet: | thanks. |
| [22:20:00] | SarahEmm: | rob? |
| [22:20:00] | rob_: | hiya |
| [22:20:00] | SarahEmm: | hiya |
| [22:21:00] | SarahEmm: | what's your load average when doing livetv? |
| [22:21:00] | rob_: | about 92% |
| [22:21:00] | Tommck: | wow |
| [22:22:00] | CyberKnet: | indeed. |
| [22:22:00] | CyberKnet: | what process is using all the cpu? X, or mythfrontend |
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| [22:23:00] | cortezdapimp: | heyo |
| [22:24:00] | ** laga does the 'at least my backend is up and running again and i can catch some sleep' dance ** | |
| [22:24:00] | rob_: | mythback4end looks to use 3% |
| [22:24:00] | cortezdapimp: | anyone using mythstreamtv? |
| [22:24:00] | rob_: | err 0.3 actually |
| [22:24:00] | rob_: | xfree using 10% but thats normal I think |
| [22:24:00] | laga: | night |
| [22:24:00] | CyberKnet: | night laga |
| [22:24:00] | CyberKnet: | rob_: probably. what is using the most cpu then? |
| [22:25:00] | cortezdapimp: | i got ffmpeg and vlc compiled correctly (i believe) but when i set up a stream, my mac mplayer says "End of file" and exits. |
| [22:25:00] | rob_: | good quetsion, nothing shows up with top, don't know where to look |
| [22:25:00] | rob_: | says 87% system, 10% user |
| [22:25:00] | rob_: | but the one at the top when sorted by cpu is xfree86 at 10% |
| [22:26:00] | SarahEmm: | err |
| [22:26:00] | SarahEmm: | 87% system? |
| [22:26:00] | rob_: | yup |
| [22:26:00] | SarahEmm: | paste your hdparm output into a pastebin for the hard drive your ringbuf is on |
| [22:26:00] | SarahEmm: | also, are you using xv support? |
| [22:26:00] | CyberKnet: | SarahEmm: wouldn't a lack of XV support show up as xfree taking up a large amount of cpu? |
| [22:27:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah, probably... |
| [22:27:00] | SarahEmm: | just thought i'd check anyway |
| [22:27:00] | CyberKnet: | can't hurt |
| [22:27:00] | SarahEmm: | high system % seems to indicate hard drive to me... |
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| [22:28:00] | CyberKnet: | or maybe an exceptionally bad FS choice |
| [22:28:00] | CyberKnet: | although what kind of FS would have that bad performance is beyond me. |
| [22:28:00] | Tommck: | Cyber – he's running Fat-16 |
| [22:28:00] | Tommck: | ;) |
| [22:28:00] | SarahEmm: | hehe |
| [22:28:00] | CyberKnet: | even fat-16 isn't that bad for writes =) |
| [22:29:00] | mchou: | Tommck: link to Michael Jackson news? |
| [22:29:00] | Tommck: | hehe.. true |
| [22:29:00] | CyberKnet: | sup mchou =) |
| [22:29:00] | Tommck: | mchou... just listened to it |
| [22:29:00] | mchou: | hi CyberKnet |
| [22:29:00] | Tommck: | mchou – not guilty on all counts |
| [22:29:00] | mchou: | Tommck: wow. |
| [22:29:00] | Tommck: | mchou – it was broadcast live on my local radio station... I"m sure all the news outlets have the info |
| [22:29:00] | mchou: | First OJ, now MJ :) |
| [22:29:00] | ** Tommck runs out to change last names to start with J ** | |
| [22:30:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: it's a sad state of affairs. |
| [22:30:00] | mchou: | ahh, npr site has it up now..... |
| [22:31:00] | mchou: | wasnt there a few minutes ago. |
| [22:31:00] | gnarface: | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/13/1 . . . 97&tid=1 |
| [22:31:00] | CyberKnet: | slashdot will probably have a story about it in a few hours, and then a couple of dups about it tomorrow. |
| [22:32:00] | CyberKnet: | ugh. not that I would recommend reading slashdot. |
| [22:32:00] | CyberKnet: | but it's always good for making a joke. |
| [22:32:00] | ** Tommck is out of here... have beer to drink ** | |
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| [22:32:00] | CyberKnet: | I guess rob didn't want help too badly. |
| [22:32:00] | ** gnarface recommends reading slashdot. ** | |
| [22:33:00] | ** gnarface recommends driving drunk too. ** | |
| [22:33:00] | Tommck: | sorry for offending anyone's sensibilities earlier |
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| [22:33:00] | Tommck: | adios |
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| [22:33:00] | CyberKnet: | Feel safer yet Sarah? |
| [22:33:00] | SarahEmm: | safer? Whyfor? |
| [22:34:00] | SarahEmm: | (it bugs me when people come in complaining about an issue, but won't answer questions when i ask them...) |
| [22:34:00] | CyberKnet: | also bugs me. but I was referring to tomm's passage. |
| [22:34:00] | SarahEmm: | err... why would i feel safer? |
| [22:34:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: quote passage pls? |
| [22:35:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: not as in section of text, as in "and so it became that Tomm passed, and his passage was rememebered for eons to come." |
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| [22:36:00] | kormoc: | SarahEmm, CyberKnet, GeckoFiend, and random others likly thought you were offended by his words earlier, and hence now then he left, you'd feel safer, in their opinion. |
| [22:36:00] | JonK: | what does it take to get convicted of a crime in california these days? |
| [22:36:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh. |
| [22:36:00] | SarahEmm: | no, i wasn't offended. *shrug* |
| [22:36:00] | mchou: | really sucks, had a couple of brown-outs here today. |
| [22:36:00] | gnarface: | JonK: fly your pontiac sunbird into the back of a van full of pottery stopped at a california state border agri-checkpoint. |
| [22:37:00] | mchou: | JonK: no money :) |
| [22:37:00] | gnarface: | JonK: it helps to be going 80+ on impact |
| [22:37:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: heh |
| [22:37:00] | gnarface: | JonK: and to be tanked up on maker's mark |
| [22:38:00] | elysium702: | Is there such a thing as a SoftCam for Linux? |
| [22:38:00] | CyberKnet: | gnarface: and in posession of certain paraphenalia and associated consumables. |
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| [22:39:00] | gnarface: | elysium702: the answer is yes but your question is so wrong you should be flogged. |
| [22:39:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: mary jane is legal for medicinal purposes in some places in CA. |
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| [22:39:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: aah yes, I think I should have mentioned quantities as well =) |
| [22:39:00] | mchou: | well, until the supreme ct ruling recently, I guess. |
| [22:40:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: but it should be noted that whilst a state agent will not find issue with it, a federal agent certainly could. |
| [22:40:00] | gnarface: | legal everywhere i believe, but didn't they just pass a law to validate federal pre-emption? |
| [22:40:00] | gnarface: | yea. |
| [22:40:00] | mchou: | gnarface: definitely not legal "everywhere" |
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| [22:41:00] | mchou: | even b4 supreme ct ruling |
| [22:41:00] | gnarface: | no? |
| [22:41:00] | gnarface: | i'm not an expert. |
| [22:41:00] | CyberKnet: | nope. |
| [22:41:00] | CyberKnet: | most states still held it illegal. |
| [22:41:00] | mchou: | like only 9 states were legal, I think. |
| [22:41:00] | gnarface: | oh, i meant everywhere in CA for medical purposes only (you need papers that say you get migranes) |
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| [22:42:00] | gnarface: | but large areas of NV (the ones where prostitution is legal too) say up to an ounce is fine for personal consumption right? |
| [22:42:00] | mchou: | gnarface: yeah, that was state law |
| [22:42:00] | mchou: | dunno jack about NV :) |
| [22:43:00] | gnarface: | doesn't matter though. its been the case for decades that states pass a few laws now and then that are federally not legal, and the only thing keeping the feds from doing anything about it is they've usually got better stuff to do.... |
| [22:43:00] | gnarface: | usually. |
| [22:43:00] | elysium702: | gnarface: umm... sorry? I'm really a n00b re: DVB. All I know is that the hardware seems expensive, and i didn't see much point in having a hardware cam if i could use a software one. I was under the impression that I could somehow make a copy of my card and then give that to the softcam which would magically make it work just like my cable box? |
| [22:43:00] | gnarface: | does anyone know what the fuck elysium702 is talking about? |
| [22:44:00] | gnarface: | elysium702: sorry. your whole goal is above my head. |
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| [22:44:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [22:44:00] | CyberKnet: | nope =) |
| [22:44:00] | cortezda2imp: | wha? |
| [22:44:00] | mchou: | but it's completely impractical at this point in time. |
| [22:44:00] | gnarface: | elysium702: tell us a story. tell us what you're trying to accomplish. leave out the hardware/software specifics. |
| [22:45:00] | CyberKnet: | gnarface: elysium702 has been trying to finish toking down on that reefer. ANd you keep interrupting. =) |
| [22:45:00] | JonK: | i love storytime |
| [22:45:00] | JonK: | i lovt it soooo much |
| [22:45:00] | gnarface: | haha |
| [22:45:00] | elysium702: | gnarface: ok. I want to retire my Cable box. I want to watch my normal channels only (don't care about other channels, if i want them i would have subscribed to them). I want to build a small media box with a DVB-C card in it so that i can watch cable and record MotoGP in very nice quality. |
| [22:45:00] | CyberKnet: | JonK: We can tell you a story about working PVR-500s and working firefly remotes that cohabitate with working PVR-350's... =) |
| [22:46:00] | SarahEmm: | lol |
| [22:46:00] | JonK: | cybernet: why do you hurt |
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| [22:46:00] | gnarface: | gnarface: just let it go. you should be watching cartoon network and the sci-fi channel anyway. |
| [22:46:00] | CyberKnet: | JonK: because you weren't around Sunday night? =P" |
| [22:46:00] | gnarface: | heh. |
| [22:46:00] | CyberKnet: | gnarface: hah |
| [22:46:00] | gnarface: | i'm so tired i'm talking to myself. |
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| [22:47:00] | gnarface: | that was for elysium702 |
| [22:47:00] | mchou: | I went to see Star Wars this past weekend. Movie was complete dreck. |
| [22:47:00] | reel: | can anyone help me troubleshoot why I can't get this FC3 system to display via s-video please? |
| [22:47:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I could have told you that, and I didn't even *see* it. |
| [22:47:00] | JonK: | although, since I have two pvr500's I can just go ahead and plug them both in, even if only 1 works per card, I still get the benefit of two tuners (which is what i wanted in the first place) |
| [22:47:00] | SarahEmm: | reel: what output card? |
| [22:47:00] | mchou: | Damn George Lucas should have paid me too se it, dammit! |
| [22:47:00] | gnarface: | elysium702: it seems to me you're going through alot of trouble just to saw off your fingers. |
| [22:47:00] | CyberKnet: | JonK: that is 100% true =) |
| [22:47:00] | reel: | GF4 MX 420. is there any command to get more detailed input from the card? |
| [22:48:00] | JonK: | although when i add the hd3000.. who knows what fun i'll have |
| [22:48:00] | gnarface: | haha. |
| [22:48:00] | JonK: | how many splitters can I put on the cable line? |
| [22:48:00] | CyberKnet: | JonK: but if that's the case, then please let me mail you my m179's and you can use those and I'll take your PVR-500 |
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| [22:48:00] | SarahEmm: | reel: hrm, i dunno offhand... sowwy |
| [22:48:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: I only went because some other folks said it was worth $10. Which I think is complete BS. |
| [22:48:00] | CyberKnet: | JonK: as long as your signal stays above about -10db you should be okay is what I get told. |
| [22:49:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: shoot the folks. |
| [22:49:00] | Marax: | reel, do you have working drivers? |
| [22:49:00] | mchou: | It's worth negative $10 |
| [22:49:00] | reel: | SarahEmm: I am sad because I used jarod's guide and it worked fine in another system but this one is just being really screwy |
| [22:49:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: that bad, huh? |
| [22:49:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: yup. |
| [22:49:00] | reel: | Marax: yeah, i compiled them off of nvidia's site |
| [22:49:00] | elysium702: | gnarface: how? saw off my fingers? eh? |
| [22:49:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: I've seen better programs on the Sci-fi channel. |
| [22:49:00] | CyberKnet: | JonK: you want the m179's instead? =) |
| [22:49:00] | gnarface: | can anyone tell me what a DVB-C card is for? |
| [22:50:00] | reel: | it works fine for VGA and it ALMOST works if I use the forceconnected tv option, it says X server cannot load |
| [22:50:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: heheh. aaah, you'll never get that time back, either. |
| [22:50:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: exactly |
| [22:50:00] | reel: | BUT it is saying it on the tv with a bad sync or something, the picture seems to be repeated about 6 times and rapidly moving |
| [22:50:00] | gnarface: | elysium702: ever seen farscape? they only show it on the sci-fi channel. i think you should dedicate your life to watching reruns of farscape, and i think you should start right now. |
| [22:50:00] | Marax: | reel, i dunno about nvidia cards, sorry :( |
| [22:50:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I say that the penalty should be that he should come and scrub your toilet for an hour and a half. It's about as mentally engaging. |
| [22:51:00] | Marax: | btw, try running glxgears |
| [22:51:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: just about. |
| [22:51:00] | Marax: | you should get atleast 800 fps |
| [22:51:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: civil conversation between us. who'd have thought it? |
| [22:51:00] | reel: | Marax: me? |
| [22:51:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: BTW, I have a -500 ordered and should be delivered in a few weeks. (buy.com slow shipping is okay with me this time) |
| [22:51:00] | Marax: | yeah |
| [22:51:00] | mchou: | hehe, ironic that George Lucas would turn out to be the "uniter" |
| [22:52:00] | SarahEmm: | -500 works well for me video-wise :o) |
| [22:52:00] | mchou: | he is so bad that he is good. |
| [22:52:00] | reel: | I can't load X and the display isn't working properly on the tv. would it still be useful? |
| [22:52:00] | Marax: | oh |
| [22:52:00] | Marax: | nope |
| [22:52:00] | elysium702: | gnarface: dammit. you said if i explain my issue, you could suggest a solution. My providers cable box crashes frequently, is slow, video quality is poor, loud clicks / pops on audio when changing channel (damaging my hi-fi speaker tweeters)... there's lots of reasons I want to build my own box. |
| [22:52:00] | Marax: | you'll need x |
| [22:53:00] | mchou: | elysium702: what cable box is this? |
| [22:53:00] | gnarface: | elysium702: fucking prove i said that. all i did was trick you into wasting more of your time. now what did you learn? |
| [22:53:00] | ** gnarface just now realized he should probably not drink and irc. ** | |
| [22:53:00] | ** gnarface is way too belligerant. ** | |
| [22:53:00] | ** gnarface is turning into Beirdo ** | |
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| [22:54:00] | Beirdo: | eat me :) |
| [22:54:00] | socktie: | a-holes! |
| [22:54:00] | socktie: | hehe |
| [22:54:00] | elysium702: | mchou: Pace Di4000t |
| [22:54:00] | gnarface: | lol. i woke him up |
| [22:54:00] | ** socktie -> lurk some more ** | |
| [22:54:00] | mchou: | elysium702: I dont think pvr-x50 will come close to cable box in terms of picture quality...... |
| [22:54:00] | gnarface: | good afternoon Beirdo. don't forget that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. |
| [22:54:00] | Beirdo: | you were askin for that |
| [22:54:00] | SarahEmm: | hihi Beirdo! :o) |
| [22:54:00] | Beirdo: | Hi, SarahEmm |
| [22:55:00] | ** SarahEmm meows at Beirdo ** | |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | Just joined on Viridian, and tossed em $19.95 |
| [22:55:00] | abarbaccia: | hey – someone have good documentation on setting up an irblaster? |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | muhahaha |
| [22:55:00] | gnarface: | elysium702: here's my one piece of honest advice, and an apology for being an asshole: if you're paying for a cable service that sucks that much fucking DITCH IT AND SUBSCRIBE TO DIRECTV |
| [22:55:00] | SarahEmm: | hehe Beirdo |
| [22:55:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: Viridian???? |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | abarbaccia: bet google can find some |
| [22:55:00] | SarahEmm: | i'm evil =^.^= |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | yes you are |
| [22:55:00] | elysium702: | gnarface: what's directv? |
| [22:55:00] | mchou: | gnarface: lol, he is in the UK. |
| [22:55:00] | elysium702: | I live in England. |
| [22:56:00] | mchou: | gnarface: stop getting sauced man...... |
| [22:56:00] | elysium702: | i have limited options, and i'm not allowed to put a sat dish on my house. |
| [22:56:00] | socktie: | directv sux, imho. |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | gnarface: have some more to drink, you aren't belligerant enough yet |
| [22:56:00] | gnarface: | abarbaccia: this is the best one i could find, but if you're not on fedora you gotta do a lot of reading between the lines: http://www.lircsetup.com/index.php |
| [22:57:00] | elysium702: | mchou: what is the pvr-x50? I was thinking of a PCLine TT DVB-C card in a dedicated machine. |
| [22:57:00] | dant: | elysium702, tried calling telewest and shouting at them? |
| [22:57:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: what is this Viridian thing you refer to? |
| [22:57:00] | reel: | is atrpms down? |
| [22:57:00] | gnarface: | http://www.somafm.com/groovesalad.pls |
| [22:57:00] | mchou: | elysium702: yeah, nm my earlier comment |
| [22:58:00] | gnarface: | Beirdo: yes sir. |
| [22:58:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: it's one of the worlds in Puzzle Pirates. |
| [22:58:00] | elysium702: | dant: they are really unuseful... they even denied knowledge of an IR blaster for their own cable box which is stated in the manual so that I might connect a TiVo or something similar. |
| [22:58:00] | dant: | elysium702, the IR blaster is to control a VCR afaik |
| [22:59:00] | dant: | elysium702, I used to have a di4000t with Tivo... needed an IRDA dongle I think to make the Tivo control it |
| [22:59:00] | elysium702: | dant: i meant ir eye or whatever it's called... this is going back a while. |
| [22:59:00] | elysium702: | dant: that's the thing. |
| [22:59:00] | reel: | can someone try www.atrpms.net please and tell me if they can connect? |
| [22:59:00] | elysium702: | dant: i gave up on telewest helping a long long time ago. |
| [23:00:00] | dant: | Tivo supplied that... but it would have been nice to use the IR In socket on the back |
| [23:00:00] | SarahEmm: | fine for me reel |
| [23:00:00] | reel: | i hate my cable company. we get selective outages >:| |
| [23:02:00] | gnarface: | elysium702: does everything about the UK suck this much? |
| [23:02:00] | elysium702: | gnarface: most things, unfortunately. |
| [23:02:00] | dant: | I hate my cable company, I've been without service now for 2 years and they still haven't fixed it |
| [23:02:00] | gnarface: | i don't know what i'd do without my direcTivo |
| [23:02:00] | gnarface: | dant: lol |
| [23:02:00] | gnarface: | dant: sucks to be you. just move. |
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| [23:03:00] | Marax: | where is the playlists for mythmusic stored? |
| [23:03:00] | mchou: | elysium702: it STB doesnt have serial input for changing channels? |
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| [23:04:00] | dant: | gnarface, that's what caused the problem, 'yes, your new house does have cable, but we can't install until a week after you move in', 1 week later, 'oops, we missed your house, it'll be a few more weeks', 4 weeks later 'we just did a sales push in your area, looks like we missed a few more houses, it's now a major engineering project, ETA is about 18 months' |
| [23:04:00] | gnarface: | Marax: i think myth stores just about everything in the 'mythconverg' database. some basic knowlege of browsing and editing databases through the mysql command-line console would help you alot. |
| [23:04:00] | elysium702: | mchou: I don't think so. |
| [23:05:00] | dant: | I use freeview now |
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| [23:05:00] | gnarface: | dant: uh. directv |
| [23:05:00] | dant: | gnarface, I'm in the UK too |
| [23:05:00] | gnarface: | god damnit |
| [23:05:00] | gnarface: | what is it with the fucking UK and their refusal to join the modern age |
| [23:05:00] | elysium702: | dant: how is it? you used TUTV, too? |
| [23:06:00] | gnarface: | in fact, all of europe is on my shitlist |
| [23:06:00] | gnarface: | do you have any idea how hard it is to find a shower with a CURTAIN in pairs? |
| [23:06:00] | gnarface: | er, paris |
| [23:06:00] | Marax: | gnarface, damn... i have 4000 mp3's and making playlists would take a while |
| [23:06:00] | dant: | gnarface, there is 'Sky'... but I binned them after they spent a year replacing parts of my dish then deciding I was outside of warranty and they'd charge me to come out again |
| [23:07:00] | dant: | elysium702, not bad, not used TUTV, getting better tho, MM and E4 have come to freeview now too |
| [23:07:00] | gnarface: | dant: lol. i installed my directv dish myself. sometimes it helps to be self-sufficient. |
| [23:07:00] | dant: | gnarface, in paris isn't the shower over the toilet? |
| [23:07:00] | gnarface: | Marax: hmm. it does seem daunting but why not just write a perl script to do it? |
| [23:07:00] | elysium702: | dant: wasn't that some kinda out-of-warranty scam they were pulling? |
| [23:08:00] | gnarface: | dant: hahahha. i've seen that in some places yes. its like all their bathrooms are still stuck in the middle ages. |
| [23:08:00] | dant: | gnarface, for analogue sat I did the install of the dish myself, worked fine for 5 years until they moved most of my channels to digital only |
| [23:08:00] | mchou: | dant: haha. or in the toilet (as in bidet) |
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| [23:08:00] | gnarface: | dant: digital satellite is easier to hook up but i think you need to be more precise with the alignment. |
| [23:08:00] | dant: | elysium702, don't know if others were affected, but I told them to bin it and went with cable... |
| [23:09:00] | gnarface: | dant: with directv its easy if you have two people and two cellphones, because you can adjust the dish while watching the signal meters in the decoder box. |
| [23:09:00] | dant: | gnarface, sky in the UK put up mini dishes (43cm) as part of the digital push, I'm sure this was half the problem for me, just didn't get the signal strength needed where the 80cm dish was fine before they took it away |
| [23:10:00] | gnarface: | dant: my dish is small too. it really helps to have two people. once you tweak the dish so all the signal levels are within 95% you're solid. |
| [23:11:00] | gnarface: | dant: it also helps to have a decent compass |
| [23:11:00] | gnarface: | dant: and an unobscured view of the sky, but that goes without saying. |
| [23:12:00] | dant: | at the end of the day, I paid them about $400 to do it and was paying aroudn $100 a month for the service, they had a year to get it right, but when they asked for $100 to come out to try fix it again I'd had enough |
| [23:12:00] | gnarface: | god damn. |
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| [23:12:00] | gnarface: | is it that hard everywhere? |
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| [23:12:00] | gnarface: | am i the only one who hooked up his own dish in half an hour and has never had a problemn since? |
| [23:13:00] | gnarface: | if this is true maybe there's some business opportunities in internet tv :) |
| [23:13:00] | dant: | As I said, for analogue, no problems, for my girlfriend's folks, I had no problems, for my dad's dual dish setup, no problems, but when I decide to get specialists to do mine, no end of problems... moral of the story....... |
| [23:13:00] | gnarface: | "specialist" = "bozo" |
| [23:14:00] | gnarface: | er, that'd be a == |
| [23:14:00] | dant: | in the UK, Sky == monopoly |
| [23:14:00] | dant: | cable is basically just reselling sky channels |
| [23:14:00] | gnarface: | is that skyone? |
| [23:14:00] | Apoch is now known as sysco | |
| [23:14:00] | elysium702: | dant: true... sad, but true...we have only a few options. |
| [23:15:00] | dant: | sky one is the sort of flagship channel for sky |
| [23:15:00] | gnarface: | i wanted to thank them for getting the new battlestar galactica onto the internet before it was finished being broadcast in america |
| [23:16:00] | mchou: | hehe, dont think Sky put that on Internet. |
| [23:16:00] | dant: | sky also helped tivo into the UK, where they then ripped off the idea and sold their own inferior box instead and dropped tivo |
| [23:16:00] | gnarface: | mchou: you know much about causality? |
| [23:16:00] | gnarface: | mchou: er, causation? |
| [23:17:00] | gnarface: | mchou: i maintain, that SKY put it on the internet. |
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| [23:19:00] | mchou: | that's like saying HBO put Sopranos on Internet. |
| [23:19:00] | gnarface: | you're right. its exactly like saying that. |
| [23:19:00] | mchou: | and that's clearly not true. |
| [23:19:00] | gnarface: | its also like saying carl's jr. made me fat. |
| [23:19:00] | gnarface: | and they did. |
| [23:19:00] | gnarface: | but i'm getting my revenge nonetheless! |
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| [23:23:00] | ** elysium702 wonders if gnarface is under the influence of alcohol... ** | |
| [23:23:00] | JonK: | but carl's junior does make people fat |
| [23:23:00] | gnarface: | mchou: obviously you're not looking at this in the right way. this is about laying blame and vengeance! |
| [23:23:00] | gnarface: | hmm. alcohol. |
| [23:23:00] | JonK: | are you fat gnarface? |
| [23:24:00] | gnarface: | http://www.sparks.com/ |
| [23:24:00] | gnarface: | fat enough. |
| [23:25:00] | gnarface: | elysium702: don't wonder about that. i am. |
| [23:25:00] | JonK: | for? |
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| [23:29:00] | gnarface: | JonK: fat enough for wishing i was less fat? |
| [23:34:00] | elysium702: | What's a BDA driver? |
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| [23:35:00] | JonK: | that works |
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| [23:36:00] | JonK: | maybe if you stopped eating carl's junior |
| [23:38:00] | JonK: | they make people fat you know |
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| [23:44:00] | rjune: | JonK: really? |
| [23:44:00] | LostSole: | okay – I got a problem. I had a harddrive crash, and after reinstalling my system, mythtv is the last thing that refuses to work. When i try and watch live tv, I get a black screen, and the menus seem to respond really slowly. |
| [23:44:00] | rjune: | JonK: we call that Hardee's out here |
| [23:44:00] | SarahEmm: | lostsole: what's in the backend log? |
| [23:44:00] | SarahEmm: | likely an audio issue :) |
| [23:46:00] | LostSole: | SarahEmm: I didn't see anything that suggested an audio problem... huh. The backend log doesn't say anything past 10:30 this morning, and nothing about the last couple of hours. |
| [23:46:00] | JonK: | i used to live in utah, we had hardess's Karl Malon did a number of commercials for them |
| [23:47:00] | JonK: | then they went out of business, and some have reopened as karl's junors |
| [23:48:00] | SarahEmm: | LostSole: when did you reinstall? |
| [23:49:00] | abarbaccia: | okay im working on getting the irblaster working – the 2nd lirc device will not show up- anybody have any experience with this? |
| [23:49:00] | gnarface: | aah i miss Hardees. remember when they had ham+cheese sandwiches? i could eat 5 of those in a sitting by the age of 12 |
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| [23:50:00] | JonK: | wow that's a pile of food |
| [23:50:00] | LostSole: | I guess Saturday, from Ubuntu's multiverse repositories... Same packages that worked about a week ago. :) Did just try it again, and got a message: ReadStringList timeout (quick) |
| [23:51:00] | sphing: | can someone link me to the page to autologin |
| [23:51:00] | sphing: | i cant find it |
| [23:51:00] | SarahEmm: | err, what myth version lostsole? |
| [23:51:00] | LostSole: | SarahEmm: 0.17 |
| [23:51:00] | SarahEmm: | hrm i dunno sowwy :( |
| [23:52:00] | SarahEmm: | nothing from the backend or frontend other than that? |
| [23:52:00] | SarahEmm: | that message seems like a frontend msg, no? |
| [23:52:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody here use an irblaster successfully? |
| [23:52:00] | LostSole: | SarahEmm: yeah, it's coming from the frontend, and I'm googling around for it at the moment. |
| [23:52:00] | SarahEmm: | okay.... |
| [23:53:00] | SarahEmm: | anything from the backend when you first start it? |
| [23:53:00] | SarahEmm: | restart it and check the log |
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| [23:56:00] | LostSole: | SarahEmm: hmmm. Now I get an authentication error when the backend starts. wth. :) |
| [23:56:00] | LostSole: | SarahEmm: thanks for the help, by the way. |
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| [23:57:00] | tcube: | I still cant figure out how to make my channel listing match with the channel listing from zap2it :( |
| [23:57:00] | SarahEmm: | np |
| [23:57:00] | SarahEmm: | what error? |
| [23:57:00] | tcube: | it creates another listing so the channel I scanned all list as unknow in program guide |
| [23:58:00] | LostSole: | SarahEmm: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. |
| [23:58:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh... i know a lot of people get that, i'm not sure it's fatah |
| [23:59:00] | LostSole: | fatah? |
| [23:59:00] | JonK: | i get that message sometimes when runnnig /etc/init.d/myth-backend start |
| [23:59:00] | JonK: | (she meant fatal) |
| [23:59:00] | SarahEmm: | err sorry |
| [23:59:00] | JonK: | but mythbackend still runs |
| [23:59:00] | SarahEmm: | fatal yes :) |
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| [23:59:00] | SarahEmm: | LostSole: nothing else in the backend log? |
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