| Thursday, June 9th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | peecee: | lo all |
| [00:00:00] | JonK: | hi hi! |
| [00:00:00] | peecee: | mythfilldatabase is erroring out with "unknown socket" |
| [00:01:00] | peecee: | new install using jarod's guide and atrpms (FC3) |
| [00:01:00] | Beirdo: | GeckoFiend: hehe. good for planning the rampage to kill off "reformed" pedophiles... |
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| [00:01:00] | peecee: | I'm at .18.1 if that makes a difference |
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| [00:02:00] | peecee: | I have a valid zap2it accound and I'm able to log in to it from my myth backend |
| [00:02:00] | peecee: | mythbackend is running when I run mythfilldatabase.... |
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| [00:05:00] | Jurian_Knight: | my backend is randomly crashing after running for 24+ hours, the log is not telling me shit... |
| [00:05:00] | akaias: | trying to get myth working with a pvr500. my friend has been helping (he has the sme setup) but is out of town now. In a nutshell when i try to capture (cat /dev/video > test.mpg) I just get black. All the proper modules are loaded but I get nothing from the card. Any ideas or is this beyond a simple config mistake? |
| [00:05:00] | peecee: | have you tried cat /dev/video0 ? |
| [00:06:00] | akaias: | peecee: video0 and video1 all provide the same results |
| [00:06:00] | Jurian_Knight: | you getting any audio at all? |
| [00:06:00] | JonK: | is the file of any size? |
| [00:06:00] | JonK: | test.mpg/ |
| [00:06:00] | JonK: | ? |
| [00:07:00] | akaias: | Jonk. yeah, that's the odd part. I get absolutely no video or sound, and the file size does grow before I ctrl-c the cat |
| [00:07:00] | peecee: | what does lspci -v say? |
| [00:07:00] | akaias: | the file size is as large as if it did have audio/video |
| [00:07:00] | JonK: | sounds like the ivtv moduel is not loading correctly |
| [00:07:00] | JonK: | post your dmesg |
| [00:08:00] | JonK: | to pastebin |
| [00:08:00] | peecee: | have you tried depmod -a then modprobe ivtv ? |
| [00:10:00] | akaias: | dmesg and lscpi-v http://pb.transnull.com/20 |
| [00:11:00] | akaias: | peecee, haven't done a depmod but when i modprobe ivtv, all the required modules do load |
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| [00:12:00] | JonK: | in your dmesg at line 370: "firmware read failed" |
| [00:12:00] | peecee: | I think I see the problem... |
| [00:12:00] | peecee: | but I'll let JonK answer ;-) |
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| [00:12:00] | JonK: | you see the same thing? |
| [00:13:00] | peecee: | yeah, that and the lspci shows unknown device |
| [00:13:00] | JonK: | well, since the firmware isn't loading the lspci should show the unknown device shouldnt i"? |
| [00:13:00] | peecee: | I don;t know much about the pvr500, but maybe adjusting the tuner value? |
| [00:13:00] | JonK: | no, did you run the ivtvfwextract.pl script? |
| [00:13:00] | peecee: | yeah, stands to reason one follows the other |
| [00:14:00] | JonK: | the tuner type is being correctly detected |
| [00:14:00] | akaias: | i see it. but i just tried the newest ivtv drivers. the changelog did say somehting about gfirmware drivers. i was using 0.3.6e earlier today. i really don't know what to do at all at this point. |
| [00:14:00] | JonK: | check /lib/modules for ivtv-sw-dec.bin and ivtv-gw-enc.bin |
| [00:14:00] | JonK: | this is not a driver issue |
| [00:14:00] | JonK: | calm down |
| [00:14:00] | peecee: | lol |
| [00:15:00] | JonK: | you need the firmware |
| [00:15:00] | akaias: | haha, just getting annoyed |
| [00:15:00] | peecee: | you're a hair away from getting this working... |
| [00:15:00] | JonK: | I'd hate to have to talk anyone in off the ledge |
| [00:15:00] | peecee: | listen to me...I've probably set 20 of these things up, and every time I run into a different problem |
| [00:15:00] | JonK: | have you ran into a pvr500 wiht one tuner installing and the second one not installing? |
| [00:16:00] | akaias: | JonK, i have not. |
| [00:16:00] | JonK: | 'cause i'm having that problem |
| [00:16:00] | akaias: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 262144 Jun 8 17:48 ivtv-fw-dec.bin |
| [00:16:00] | akaias: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 262144 Jun 8 17:48 ivtv-fw-enc.bin |
| [00:16:00] | peecee: | odd |
| [00:16:00] | JonK: | where did you get these files? |
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| [00:17:00] | JonK: | and where did you get the HcwMAdoA.ROM file? |
| [00:17:00] | akaias: | honestly. i don't know. I just use a script that my friend wrote when he got his myth box working. I download the ivtv drivers, then run it. it builds the modules and downloads something. I can post that to a pb if you want. |
| [00:18:00] | JonK: | do you know where teh aliases are being set? |
| [00:18:00] | akaias: | /etc/modules/d/ivtv |
| [00:18:00] | JonK: | post that file too |
| [00:18:00] | Renfield: | Hello. |
| [00:19:00] | peecee: | hello Red |
| [00:19:00] | peecee: | Ren |
| [00:19:00] | peecee: | dang, messed that one up... |
| [00:19:00] | Renfield: | Does anyone know if there is a hardware database listing all of the components that unichrome can make use of? |
| [00:20:00] | peecee: | have you tried http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/ ? |
| [00:20:00] | Renfield: | Yea. |
| [00:20:00] | Renfield: | I didn't see one. |
| [00:20:00] | peecee: | I know, obvious...but you never know... |
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| [00:22:00] | peecee: | have you tried viaarena? |
| [00:22:00] | Renfield: | Nope. |
| [00:22:00] | Renfield: | viaarena.com? |
| [00:22:00] | akaias: | JonK, here is the install_driver script. http://pastebin.com/297420 |
| [00:23:00] | peecee: | yeah |
| [00:23:00] | JonK: | ivtv aliases |
| [00:23:00] | peecee: | plus, there's a bonus interview there of Ms. X |
| [00:23:00] | akaias: | http://pastebin.com/297423 |
| [00:23:00] | akaias: | all of a sudden my pastebin stopped working. |
| [00:24:00] | JonK: | i don't think you need line 4 |
| [00:25:00] | JonK: | but nothing appears way out of wack |
| [00:26:00] | akaias: | or should line 4 have bttv cnahed to ivtv? |
| [00:26:00] | JonK: | no |
| [00:26:00] | peecee: | definitely not |
| [00:26:00] | peecee: | do you have a bttv card in that machine? |
| [00:26:00] | akaias: | ok. i just put what my friend told me to put in here. i have no idea what any of the options are. |
| [00:27:00] | peecee: | do you only have a pvr500? |
| [00:27:00] | akaias: | yeah, thats the only card |
| [00:27:00] | peecee: | then I'd take out 4 & 5 |
| [00:27:00] | peecee: | then again, they shouldn't harm anything |
| [00:27:00] | JonK: | I think he needs the no_black_magic_=1 option |
| [00:28:00] | peecee: | is that for the 500? |
| [00:28:00] | JonK: | y |
| [00:28:00] | JonK: | try replacing with |
| [00:28:00] | peecee: | ah |
| [00:28:00] | peecee: | my ignorance shows through |
| [00:28:00] | JonK: | options cx25840 i2c_enable 1,1 no_black_magic=1 |
| [00:28:00] | JonK: | when you do, power off the system for a few minutes |
| [00:28:00] | JonK: | the pvr500 seems to hold onto register values pretty long |
| [00:29:00] | JonK: | (so i've been told) |
| [00:29:00] | peecee: | I've heard the same thing... |
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| [00:30:00] | peecee: | so, has anyone heard of an unknown socket error when running mythfilldatabase? |
| [00:30:00] | JonK: | i wish i could get my 500 working, im about ready to give up, sell it and buy two pvr-250's |
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| [00:30:00] | akaias: | Jonk. thanks. I'll try that. |
| [00:30:00] | peecee: | have you mailed the mythtv users list? |
| [00:31:00] | JonK: | not yet |
| [00:31:00] | peecee: | cause I'm doing that right now about my stipud problem |
| [00:31:00] | JonK: | actually i think i did |
| [00:31:00] | peecee: | stupid... |
| [00:31:00] | JonK: | pvr-350 and pvr500 won't seem to play nice |
| [00:31:00] | peecee: | not you...doing a slight respell... |
| [00:31:00] | JonK: | no, yes me |
| [00:32:00] | peecee: | How has the 350 been? |
| [00:32:00] | peecee: | lol |
| [00:32:00] | JonK: | had that first |
| [00:32:00] | JonK: | thought I'd start with it |
| [00:32:00] | JonK: | quite like it |
| [00:33:00] | JonK: | then wanted to add tuners and the posts seemed to indicate that the drivers were getting decent, so bought a 500 (accidently bought 2!) |
| [00:33:00] | JonK: | stupid web shopping carts |
| [00:33:00] | peecee: | send one back? |
| [00:33:00] | JonK: | no i still have it |
| [00:33:00] | peecee: | lol |
| [00:34:00] | peecee: | four tuners...that would be cool |
| [00:34:00] | JonK: | i could send it back, but that would require effort |
| [00:34:00] | JonK: | I'm not sure I have the ATP |
| [00:34:00] | JonK: | plan is 1 350 1 500 and 1 pcHD3000 |
| [00:34:00] | peecee: | 500 is nice, it did sound like the drivers were pretty stable |
| [00:35:00] | JonK: | i have no problem wiht just getting a 250's |
| [00:35:00] | JonK: | i could always put the second 500 in a front end |
| [00:35:00] | JonK: | or build a mythbox as a gift for a friend |
| [00:35:00] | peecee: | that was my thought – 500 is nice, but not quite mature enough |
| [00:35:00] | peecee: | lol |
| [00:39:00] | peecee: | later guys |
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| [00:41:00] | JonK: | if you have any thoughts on a 0x44 not found error generated by modprobe ivtv — let me know |
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| [00:58:00] | Renfield: | So anyone know of a good place to find out what hardware uses unichrome? |
| [00:59:00] | Beirdo: | |
| [01:00:00] | riksta: | Beirdo++ |
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| [01:02:00] | JonK: | is google actually a place? it's all getting rather meta-phyiscal |
| [01:04:00] | JonK: | I mean i can see "the library" as an answer |
| [01:04:00] | riksta: | yes |
| [01:04:00] | riksta: | mountain view, california |
| [01:04:00] | JonK: | yes, but I highly doubt the beirdo was suggesting that he travel to moutain view california |
| [01:04:00] | riksta: | LOL |
| [01:04:00] | riksta: | he loves to travel |
| [01:05:00] | riksta: | don't you? |
| [01:05:00] | JonK: | pilgramage to the modern oracle? |
| [01:05:00] | riksta: | he could go there, and ask for a job at the same time |
| [01:06:00] | JonK: | not if he doesn't know what hardware uses unicrhome |
| [01:06:00] | JonK: | i mean come on.... |
| [01:06:00] | riksta: | at least he can type ;) |
| [01:06:00] | JonK: | bah — I"ve been typing for 12 hours, i start to go late in the afternoon |
| [01:07:00] | JonK: | just my daily contribution to the evil empire |
| [01:07:00] | Renfield: | I don't think so. |
| [01:07:00] | Renfield: | I don't want to live in California. |
| [01:08:00] | Renfield: | Since x.org, I have found it hard to get a list of supported graphics cards. |
| [01:08:00] | Renfield: | The xfree86 guys used to maintain a web page with that sort of stuff. |
| [01:08:00] | JonK: | see! |
| [01:09:00] | Renfield: | Eh? |
| [01:09:00] | JonK: | I told them you might not want to go to moutain view |
| [01:11:00] | Renfield: | Well, the oracle can be reached at any computer terminal. I doubt the clarity of the oracle can be increased by locality. |
| [01:11:00] | JonK: | and in fact may decrease (I'm picturing a large security gaurd engaged in "forcible removal") |
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| [01:12:00] | Renfield: | Yea. |
| [01:13:00] | Renfield: | Thou shalt only use approved channels to speak with the oracle. |
| [01:13:00] | JonK: | the method of claim 1, wherein |
| [01:13:00] | JonK: | errr.. wrong window |
| [01:14:00] | Renfield: | I'm just trying to find a good graphics card with svideo tv-out that uses non-proprietary drivers. |
| [01:14:00] | JonK: | are there many choices? |
| [01:15:00] | JonK: | I think there would only be a couple |
| [01:20:00] | GeckoFiend: | Renfield the life of a zealot is a hard one my son |
| [01:21:00] | JonK: | for adun! |
| [01:22:00] | Renfield: | Heh. |
| [01:23:00] | Renfield: | Not really. I've lived this long without a HTPC. |
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| [01:25:00] | Renfield: | Looks like there the Matrox g400, some card thats supported by unichrome, and some sis cards. I just have to figure out what those cards are, and which is the best. |
| [01:25:00] | kormoc: | the g400 is a nice card, just not fast |
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| [01:26:00] | Renfield: | My biggest concern with the g400 is that it is old. You can't use older AGP cards on moden MOBOs, right? |
| [01:27:00] | Renfield: | Maybe a g400 pci card would work. |
| [01:28:00] | Chutt: | it'd be even slower and crappier than an agp g400 |
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| [01:28:00] | Renfield: | Slow how? 3d? I don't need 3d for a HTPC. |
| [01:29:00] | gnarface: | hey, what's unichrome for? |
| [01:29:00] | Chutt: | well, if you want any sort of hardware decode assist, yes, you do |
| [01:29:00] | Chutt: | and if you want to use the next myth interface as it's meant to, you do as well =) |
| [01:29:00] | Renfield: | Chutt: If I get a Athlon xp 3200, do I need hardware decode assist? |
| [01:29:00] | Chutt: | no, but why would you pair new hardware like that with a crappy video card? |
| [01:30:00] | Renfield: | Because I'm a zealot. Unless you know of a new video card that has open source drivers. |
| [01:30:00] | Chutt: | why'd you need open source drivers, though? |
| [01:30:00] | Chutt: | as you said, it's just for a htpc |
| [01:31:00] | JonK: | hdpc3000? |
| [01:34:00] | Renfield: | I don't want to use proprietary drivers. |
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| [01:45:00] | Chutt: | anyone run the mythuitest program recently? i'm curious to see if it still works for people |
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| [01:50:00] | GeckoFiend: | Chutt It's been a couple days for me. I'll try it out again in a few |
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| [02:11:00] | GeckoFiend: | other than "ThemedMenuPrivate: Unknown element font" it works lik a charm |
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| [02:13:00] | Cardoe: | Hopefully the new code writers read a little of something like... http://books.slashdot.org/books/05/06/07/1531 . . . 56&tid=6 |
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| [02:15:00] | Chutt: | heh, i started going through with -weffc++ one time |
| [02:15:00] | mortal5: | does anyone know if the pvr 250 has a radio tuner? I thought not but ivtv says it found one |
| [02:15:00] | Chutt: | too much crap from the qt headers to make it useful, though |
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| [02:16:00] | iggy: | mortal5: I think the 250 mce has one, but sometimes ivtv detects wrong |
| [02:16:00] | iggy: | so, it could go either way |
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| [02:17:00] | mortal5: | I don't have the mce :/ |
| [02:21:00] | iggy: | okay, here's a really easy way to tell |
| [02:21:00] | iggy: | is there a fm antenna input on the back of the card |
| [02:22:00] | Chutt: | easier way to tell is to look at hauppauge's website :p |
| [02:23:00] | Chutt: | mces + 350s have it, others don't |
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| [02:27:00] | machfive: | I can cat an mpeg file through /dev/video0, and I get static.. so I am somewhere at least. |
| [02:27:00] | machfive: | Anyone point me in the right direction here? Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "3" in the "setup" Channel Editor. |
| [02:29:00] | mortal5: | k i don't have it |
| [02:30:00] | mortal5: | setting up mysql for mythtv now |
| [02:30:00] | mortal5: | isn't it like mysqladmin -u mythtv -p blah? |
| [02:31:00] | riksta: | what is this i see, Chutt in -users? :) |
| [02:32:00] | mortal5: | /usr/bin/mysqladmin: unable to change password; error: 'Access denied for user: '@localhost' to database 'mysql'' |
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| [02:33:00] | mortal5: | hmm ...i'da thought that would have worked |
| [02:33:00] | iggy: | riksta: quiet, you'll scare him off, then we can't get him riled up over Gentoo |
| [02:34:00] | Chutt: | hehe |
| [02:34:00] | machfive: | heh |
| [02:35:00] | ** mortal5 uses slackware, ...and looks at all others from his high horse ...which looks just like all the others in the herd ** | |
| [02:35:00] | machfive: | RE: my post earlier. Does anyone know where I could start looking? I've been following Jarod's fedora core 3 how-to |
| [02:35:00] | ** machfive used debian.. until they came out with a stable apt for redhat ** | |
| [02:35:00] | machfive: | heh |
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| [02:52:00] | CanadaBoy: | question for a mythtv super guru ... i just moved and my location changed, so i update my zap2it account, added a new video source (yes added :-() and assigned it to my tunner input. ... now i have 2 of every channel in my guide ... can anyone tell me how to remove the duplicat ones? |
| [02:52:00] | Chutt: | delete the old source |
| [02:52:00] | mchou: | run mythtv-setup again and clear everything :) |
| [02:53:00] | CanadaBoy: | how i cna't find a key to do so |
| [02:53:00] | Chutt: | menu |
| [02:53:00] | CanadaBoy: | menu? |
| [02:53:00] | Chutt: | whatever you have bound to the menu key |
| [02:53:00] | mchou: | 'M' if you use default assignmnet |
| [02:53:00] | Chutt: | generally, that's 'm' |
| [02:54:00] | CanadaBoy: | ok sec. |
| [02:54:00] | CanadaBoy: | and then doa mythtv fill db |
| [02:54:00] | Chutt: | shouldn't have to |
| [02:54:00] | CanadaBoy: | dam u guys rock! |
| [02:54:00] | Chutt: | unless you wipe the program data with one of the first two popup questions the setup program asks |
| [02:55:00] | Chutt: | which is the easy way to delete everything |
| [02:55:00] | CanadaBoy: | m worked! sweet! |
| [02:55:00] | mchou: | Candians seem like an easily excitable bunch :) |
| [02:55:00] | CanadaBoy: | we are ... lol |
| [02:55:00] | mchou: | Canadians* |
| [02:55:00] | CanadaBoy: | man i love mythtv ... now i just need to find someone on digital cable that uses and irblaster to change / record tv |
| [02:56:00] | epoch: | we are not |
| [02:56:00] | mchou: | epoch: haha |
| [02:56:00] | CanadaBoy: | lol @ epoch |
| [02:56:00] | ** epoch <- not excited ** | |
| [02:56:00] | CanadaBoy: | must be me ... i've bene without my mythbox for 6 months ... going throught withdrawls |
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| [03:00:00] | CanadaBoy: | dam still 2 of everything but the old are all unknown L0* |
| [03:01:00] | mortal5: | guys help, i'm trying to set up the mysql database to work with mythtv |
| [03:01:00] | iggy: | follow the destruction |
| [03:01:00] | CanadaBoy: | any ideas Chutt? |
| [03:01:00] | iggy: | *desctructions |
| [03:02:00] | iggy: | CanadaBoy: did you rerun mythfilldatabase? I think you have to do that |
| [03:02:00] | CanadaBoy: | trying that now |
| [03:02:00] | Chutt: | answer yes to the question that says 'delete program info' |
| [03:02:00] | Chutt: | re-create your new source |
| [03:02:00] | Chutt: | re-attach it to an input, re-run mythfilldb |
| [03:03:00] | Chutt: | or something like that |
| [03:03:00] | CanadaBoy: | ya just saw that |
| [03:03:00] | CanadaBoy: | thanks :-) |
| [03:04:00] | mchou: | wtf??? http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4695018 |
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| [03:26:00] | riksta: | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4072704.stm now that is mental |
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| [03:28:00] | JeepJerk: | why is a video game sword even worth 430 ponds anyways? |
| [03:28:00] | Jurian_Knight: | probably because it takes so damn long to get? |
| [03:29:00] | JeepJerk: | ok |
| [03:29:00] | JeepJerk: | but its still a video game |
| [03:29:00] | JeepJerk: | I mean how long do you think it took to code that sword? |
| [03:29:00] | JeepJerk: | and what does it really do for you outside of the game? |
| [03:29:00] | Jurian_Knight: | the modeling was probably the most time consuming... |
| [03:30:00] | riksta: | it's virtual property |
| [03:30:00] | riksta: | it's worth whatever people make it |
| [03:31:00] | Jurian_Knight: | hmm... /me waits until 3 min before the aution he's bidding on closes, just to piss the guy's who been outbidding him, off |
| [03:31:00] | adante: | your respect for other people value systems (wacky as they may be) has been duly noted |
| [03:32:00] | JeepJerk: | "South Korea has a section of its police force that investigates in-game crime." |
| [03:32:00] | JeepJerk: | Is that the sequel to true crime? |
| [03:32:00] | JeepJerk: | :P |
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| [03:33:00] | dhofstra: | I hope they are not investigating in game crime when I play Vice City.. heh |
| [03:34:00] | riksta: | lol |
| [03:34:00] | adante: | what i want to know is what did the sword do? :D |
| [03:34:00] | JeepJerk: | nice dhofstra |
| [03:38:00] | mortal5: | 2005-06–08 21:38:23.707 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 |
| [03:38:00] | mortal5: | it keeps asking me to configure the backend server, but it's localhost ...should be able to connect to that |
| [03:39:00] | riksta: | run mythsetup? |
| [03:39:00] | iggy: | is that the IP you told mythbackend to listen on? |
| [03:39:00] | riksta: | err mythtv-setup |
| [03:39:00] | mortal5: | yeah |
| [03:39:00] | mortal5: | I went w defaults |
| [03:39:00] | riksta: | you must go through the general section all the way to the end and finish |
| [03:40:00] | mortal5: | i went through it |
| [03:40:00] | mortal5: | all of it |
| [03:40:00] | riksta: | do it again to make sure |
| [03:40:00] | riksta: | section 1 |
| [03:42:00] | riksta: | im watching the home run derby, awesome |
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| [03:45:00] | mortal5: | riksta, mythfilldatabase error on me |
| [03:45:00] | mortal5: | says i'm unauth user |
| [03:46:00] | mortal5: | I'm getting error 401 |
| [03:51:00] | riksta: | mortal5: what does it say when you try to log into mysql with the myth user? |
| [03:52:00] | riksta: | mysql -umythtv -p mythconverg |
| [03:52:00] | riksta: | or whatever it is |
| [03:53:00] | bjohnson: | riksta: that vcdgear is a lot better than bchunk or bin2iso |
| [03:53:00] | riksta: | bjohnson: yeah i told ya ;) |
| [03:53:00] | riksta: | did it work ok for you then |
| [03:53:00] | bjohnson: | yes |
| [03:54:00] | riksta: | glad :) |
| [03:54:00] | riksta: | bjohnson: you are in so many of my channels :P |
| [03:54:00] | bjohnson: | have you used it for mpg2mpg? |
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| [03:54:00] | riksta: | bjohnson: to be honest i never use it much |
| [03:54:00] | bjohnson: | I think it will do conversion to vcd pretty fast .. but haven't tested that part yet |
| [03:55:00] | riksta: | all my bins play in mplayer directly |
| [03:55:00] | riksta: | you must get your illegal movies from bad places ;) |
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| [03:56:00] | bjohnson: | I want to burn them as mpgs to a data dvd to play them on the kid's 7" player. Done a few dvds that way, handy for travelling when there's 5 or so movies per disc |
| [03:56:00] | riksta: | yeah good idea |
| [03:56:00] | riksta: | you got dual layer dvd? |
| [03:56:00] | bjohnson: | no |
| [03:56:00] | riksta: | only about $40 |
| [03:57:00] | riksta: | dunno how much the media is tho |
| [03:57:00] | dhofstra: | for the media (heh) |
| [03:57:00] | bjohnson: | just normal one |
| [03:57:00] | riksta: | haha |
| [03:57:00] | bjohnson: | the dual layer media is about $25 each I think |
| [03:57:00] | riksta: | holy shit |
| [03:57:00] | bjohnson: | yeah. not worth it yet |
| [03:57:00] | riksta: | it cant be |
| [03:58:00] | dhofstra: | I buy the single layer DVD-R made by Ritek ... pretty damn good quality generic disc |
| [03:58:00] | riksta: | i just get shitty infiniti |
| [03:58:00] | riksta: | never had a problem |
| [03:59:00] | riksta: | i can get a dual layer disc for £4 |
| [03:59:00] | riksta: | cased |
| [03:59:00] | riksta: | andi can get a spindle of 10 for £25 |
| [03:59:00] | bjohnson: | http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp . . . fixedcode=WW |
| [04:00:00] | bjohnson: | $10 CAD each I guess |
| [04:00:00] | riksta: | doesnt work here asked for postcode |
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| [04:00:00] | riksta: | on that site |
| [04:00:00] | riksta: | yo dopester |
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| [04:00:00] | mortal5: | riksta, do i have to sign up for a datadirect acct? |
| [04:01:00] | riksta: | no |
| [04:01:00] | dopester: | heya riksta |
| [04:01:00] | riksta: | you don't DAVE to do anything |
| [04:01:00] | dopester: | fucking columbia, sc is shit |
| [04:01:00] | riksta: | HAVE |
| [04:01:00] | mortal5: | ok |
| [04:01:00] | riksta: | you bin workin today dopester m8 |
| [04:02:00] | mortal5: | I just want to watch tv ... |
| [04:02:00] | dopester: | yeah |
| [04:02:00] | riksta: | mortal5: well if you answered my question from before i will continue to try to help you |
| [04:02:00] | mortal5: | riksta, oh, yeah lol i tried that |
| [04:02:00] | mortal5: | I don't think mysql has a mythtv user |
| [04:03:00] | riksta: | well then bloody make one |
| [04:03:00] | mortal5: | do i have to add a mythtv user acct to the system? |
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| [04:03:00] | riksta: | thats why it says it cant log into the database |
| [04:04:00] | mortal5: | like an actual linux user account? or just a mysql acct? |
| [04:04:00] | riksta: | *sigh* |
| [04:04:00] | riksta: | mysql user |
| [04:05:00] | mortal5: | ok |
| [04:05:00] | mortal5: | thx man, i know it can be a pita helping ppl sometimes |
| [04:06:00] | riksta: | it can when they blatently haven't bothered to look at the instructions |
| [04:06:00] | riksta: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html |
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| [04:08:00] | mortal5: | riksta, i read and did the part where i set up myth i think |
| [04:08:00] | mortal5: | a while back |
| [04:08:00] | mortal5: | mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"192.168.1.%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [04:08:00] | riksta: | mortal5: do you understand what that is doing? do you have an ip address of 192.168.1.x ? |
| [04:08:00] | mortal5: | my ip address on this network is 192.168.1.1 |
| [04:09:00] | riksta: | ok |
| [04:09:00] | riksta: | so do this |
| [04:09:00] | mortal5: | oops rather 101 |
| [04:09:00] | riksta: | mysql -uroot -p mythconverg |
| [04:09:00] | riksta: | and password of mythtv |
| [04:09:00] | riksta: | and see if it logs in |
| [04:09:00] | mortal5: | password of mythtv? |
| [04:09:00] | mortal5: | but i already set my pw for root to something else |
| [04:10:00] | mortal5: | crud i think i screwed up |
| [04:10:00] | riksta: | use the password of mythtv like i said |
| [04:10:00] | riksta: | and tell me what it says |
| [04:10:00] | riksta: | identified by "mythtv"; means just that |
| [04:11:00] | mortal5: | ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
| [04:11:00] | riksta: | fuck, i said fucking -umythtv |
| [04:11:00] | ** riksta gives up ** | |
| [04:12:00] | mortal5: | ok |
| [04:12:00] | mortal5: | i can log in |
| [04:12:00] | mortal5: | with mythtv pw mythtv |
| [04:12:00] | riksta: | congrats |
| [04:12:00] | riksta: | i still give up |
| [04:12:00] | mortal5: | lol |
| [04:13:00] | riksta: | lost pateience |
| [04:13:00] | mortal5: | understandible |
| [04:13:00] | riksta: | and ability to spell ;) |
| [04:13:00] | mortal5: | would it help if i sent you beer? |
| [04:13:00] | riksta: | lol |
| [04:13:00] | riksta: | not at 4am ;) |
| [04:14:00] | mortal5: | wow, why are you not sleeping? |
| [04:14:00] | riksta: | doing some work |
| [04:14:00] | mortal5: | sleep man ...unplug from irc for a while |
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| [04:21:00] | riksta: | mortal5: PM |
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| [04:37:00] | mortal5: | riksta, ok mythfilldatabase is working now, though it seems it keeps running the same over and over |
| [04:37:00] | riksta: | itll be getting each day dont worry |
| [04:38:00] | mortal5: | k |
| [04:38:00] | riksta: | takes ages |
| [04:38:00] | mortal5: | lol |
| [04:39:00] | mortal5: | bbl ...i'm off to watch fam guy while it does it's thing |
| [04:40:00] | mortal5: | nm it's done |
| [04:40:00] | mortal5: | 2005-06–08 22:41:03.350 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) Connection timed out. |
| [04:40:00] | mortal5: | i thought my stupid backend server was working? |
| [04:41:00] | ** mortal5 knaws on a piece of wood ** | |
| [04:44:00] | riksta: | does it do 5 retries? |
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| [04:45:00] | mortal5: | riksta, ok, myth frontend went up, i went to watch tv and it was a blank screen |
| [04:46:00] | mortal5: | it said composite 0 on it |
| [04:46:00] | riksta: | check you have guide data |
| [04:46:00] | riksta: | 1st |
| [04:46:00] | mortal5: | yeah it said my db might be set up incorrectly |
| [04:47:00] | riksta: | its fine to see a try 1 of 5 |
| [04:47:00] | riksta: | even i get it |
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| [05:04:00] | Kronuz: | hey, where do I get the MythTV from the cvs? |
| [05:05:00] | Kronuz: | I have cvs.mythtv.org, but where's the repository? |
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| [05:06:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html |
| [05:06:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: make sure you read the rest of that document before you screw something up that matters. |
| [05:06:00] | Kronuz: | I tried /var/lib/mythcvs "it's saying no such repository" |
| [05:07:00] | CyberKnet: | just worked fine for me |
| [05:07:00] | CyberKnet: | I suggest that user error is present |
| [05:07:00] | Kronuz: | :P |
| [05:08:00] | Kronuz: | sorry, I wrote '/var/lib/mythtv' :P |
| [05:08:00] | CyberKnet: | that would do it. |
| [05:08:00] | Kronuz: | :D |
| [05:08:00] | Kronuz: | now it's working, thanks :) (sorry) |
| [05:09:00] | CyberKnet: | no problem |
| [05:09:00] | CyberKnet: | glad you got it working =) |
| [05:11:00] | rpete: | wonder how skittish the directv or dish network dishes can get in blizzards |
| [05:11:00] | CyberKnet: | rpete: no idea, but xris is in Seattle, and he has satellite. You might ask him when he wakes up. |
| [05:12:00] | CyberKnet: | no idea what kind of weather seattle experiences, mind you. |
| [05:12:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [05:12:00] | Kronuz: | lol |
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| [05:12:00] | CyberKnet: | here in Tulsa we get *maybe* five, six inches of snow a year. |
| [05:13:00] | CyberKnet: | never anything like a blizzard =) |
| [05:13:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: since when are there blizzards in seattle? |
| [05:13:00] | CyberKnet: | almost no snow at all this year =) |
| [05:13:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: well, you're the only one I know who gets satellite period =) |
| [05:13:00] | xris: | heh |
| [05:13:00] | rpete: | does rain affect it much xris? |
| [05:13:00] | xris: | no |
| [05:13:00] | CyberKnet: | aah, now rain. THAT seattle gets a ton of =) |
| [05:13:00] | CyberKnet: | ooh, and cloud cover. |
| [05:13:00] | CyberKnet: | ask him about cloud cover in seattle. they're experts at that. |
| [05:13:00] | rpete: | I reckon two feet of snow on the dish would disrupt service though... |
| [05:13:00] | CyberKnet: | *grin* |
| [05:14:00] | xris: | I've had the signal drop for 1–2 seconds every couple of weeks. |
| [05:14:00] | Kronuz: | is it XMLTV really absolutely needed to compile MythTV, or is it optional? |
| [05:14:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: what does the documentation say? |
| [05:14:00] | xris: | make that one in about every 40–50 or so recordings |
| [05:14:00] | Kronuz: | it looks like it's needed |
| [05:14:00] | rpete: | which one do you have xris? |
| [05:14:00] | xris: | dishnetwork |
| [05:14:00] | Kronuz: | but I remember reading somewhere it was optional |
| [05:14:00] | xris: | purely because it's cheaper |
| [05:14:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: try to build without it. if it doesn't work, get it =) |
| [05:14:00] | Kronuz: | :P |
| [05:14:00] | rpete: | hdtv or standard xris? |
| [05:14:00] | Kronuz: | okay |
| [05:14:00] | xris: | standard |
| [05:15:00] | rpete: | happy with image quality and sound? |
| [05:15:00] | xris: | totally |
| [05:15:00] | xris: | I'm not exactly an audiophile, though |
| [05:15:00] | rpete: | they have a nice dvr they're offering with dual tuners |
| [05:15:00] | rpete: | I might have to go with that |
| [05:15:00] | riksta: | Kronuz: how can it be optional, when it's needed for guide data |
| [05:16:00] | xris: | rpete: if you do, let me know — they give credits for recommendations |
| [05:16:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: I don't use xmltv for the guide data. I use DataDirect. |
| [05:16:00] | xris: | (unless you already know someone who has it) |
| [05:16:00] | rpete: | xris, it's a pretty sure thing, what do you need me to do? |
| [05:16:00] | riksta: | ahh yeah good point, i always forget about that, being a UK citizen :) |
| [05:16:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: heh =) |
| [05:16:00] | xris: | rpete: honestly, I don't know. lemme call and ask |
| [05:16:00] | riksta: | a crazy UK citizen up at 5:16am |
| [05:17:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: crazy indeed. =) You got any 150s or 500s? |
| [05:17:00] | riksta: | naw man i'm a dvb dude |
| [05:17:00] | rpete: | xris, I was going to pay the activation fee at costco since it's $20 cheaper, don't know if it matters to you or not |
| [05:17:00] | CyberKnet: | aah yes, crazy UK citizen =) |
| [05:17:00] | riksta: | and i have a dodgy old bt848 ati wonder ve |
| [05:17:00] | xris: | there shouldn't be an activation fee |
| [05:17:00] | riksta: | haha |
| [05:17:00] | CyberKnet: | with beloved digital over the air mpeg goodness. |
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| [05:17:00] | riksta: | ya dvb-t++ |
| [05:17:00] | riksta: | if only i could hack it ;) |
| [05:17:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [05:17:00] | CyberKnet: | now now =) |
| [05:17:00] | riksta: | you have over the air atsc goodness |
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| [05:18:00] | ** CyberKnet is hunting around for the best prices on 150's and 500's ** | |
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| [05:18:00] | CyberKnet: | sup o_cee |
| [05:18:00] | riksta: | whats the diff between a 150 and a 500 |
| [05:18:00] | riksta: | 500 has enc/dec ? |
| [05:18:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: haha, how quickly do you change your mind? |
| [05:18:00] | CyberKnet: | 500 = 2x150 in one card |
| [05:18:00] | riksta: | kool |
| [05:18:00] | riksta: | why aint it 300 ;) |
| [05:19:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I never decided if I wanted a 500 or 300.. |
| [05:19:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: and I went to watch a simpsons ep today and it was all fucked up and pixelated. |
| [05:19:00] | Alien88: | so uhm.. when something is recording and i go to watch livetv.. mythfrotnend locks up and just displays black.. and this is in my logs (it repeats over and over.. so i only pasted some of it in): http://pastebin.com/297534 |
| [05:19:00] | rpete: | xris, I don't know what they're calling the fee, but it's $50 and then you get a $50 credit on your first bill, at costco its $30 and you still get the $50 credit |
| [05:19:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: and so now, I am working up the WAF on getting some new tuner cards. |
| [05:19:00] | riksta: | Alien88: 0.18.1 ? i get that too |
| [05:19:00] | xris: | oh, in that case, it's a good deal |
| [05:19:00] | Alien88: | any ideas, cause ive checked almost everything i can think of.. mythsetup, the profile settings, etc |
| [05:19:00] | Alien88: | yeah, 0.18.1 |
| [05:19:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: now, I was reverring to 179 vs pvrx50 :) |
| [05:19:00] | Alien88: | didnt happen w/ 0.16 :\ |
| [05:19:00] | mchou: | referring* |
| [05:19:00] | riksta: | Alien88: must be a bug i need to debug it sometime |
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| [05:20:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: If you will jog your memory back that far, you will recall that when you said the 150/500 vs 179 was night and day, I did not dispute it. |
| [05:20:00] | rpete: | xris, http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/customerCa . . . /index.shtml |
| [05:20:00] | riksta: | Alien88: did yours USED to give you an error message |
| [05:20:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: and back that far being less than a week ago |
| [05:21:00] | xris: | rpete: yeah. they give you a bunch of little referral cards to hand out to friends. doesn't help if you don't live nearby |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | lol, I think that was yesterday. |
| [05:21:00] | Alien88: | riksta: yeah, it used to say "A recording is in progress.." and asked if i wanted to break the recording or exit |
| [05:21:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I think it was too. |
| [05:21:00] | riksta: | Alien88: yeah i just get black, same thing |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: $60 for 150 rtl. |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | after $30 rebate. |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | best price so far I've seen. |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | use that as a reference. |
| [05:22:00] | Alien88: | its annoying cause i have to kill mythfrontend |
| [05:22:00] | iggy: | ick, rebates |
| [05:22:00] | riksta: | Alien88: me too |
| [05:22:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I think I've seen it for very close to $60 without needing rebates. |
| [05:22:00] | mchou: | rebates a fine by me. circuit city rebate got here in 3 wks. |
| [05:22:00] | riksta: | Alien88: post to the list, im going to bed |
| [05:22:00] | Alien88: | well at least im not the only one! |
| [05:22:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: well, that you got your rebate is a good point of reference, and I'll certainly keep that in mind. |
| [05:22:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: that's the mce version. No remote or irblaster. |
| [05:23:00] | riksta: | Alien88: do you mind? |
| [05:23:00] | mchou: | 150mce is $60 straight up, no rebates. |
| [05:23:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I thought I had seen on the ivtv mailing lists that more people had had problems with the non MCE versions than with the mce versions... was I mistaken? |
| [05:23:00] | Alien88: | riksta: yeah, i'll post |
| [05:23:00] | riksta: | thanks m8 |
| [05:23:00] | riksta: | nite |
| [05:24:00] | mortal5: | nite riksta |
| [05:24:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: maybe in the past. No problems w/ my rtl ones :) |
| [05:24:00] | iggy: | no problem with my 2 mce's |
| [05:24:00] | mortal5: | guys check this out i cat /dev/v4l/video0 > test.mpg, but when i play it i get a blank screen |
| [05:24:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I think you are the first person I have ever seen shorten retail to rtl. |
| [05:24:00] | iggy: | I think it depends on other things more than the card type |
| [05:25:00] | mortal5: | vs when i do it for /dev/video0 i get picture and sound |
| [05:25:00] | mortal5: | (using ivtv) |
| [05:25:00] | CyberKnet: | circuit city is back up to 99.99 |
| [05:25:00] | mortal5: | should i delete /dev/v4l/video0 and symlink it to /dev/video0? |
| [05:25:00] | mchou: | frys sells it for $60 AR occasionally. |
| [05:26:00] | CyberKnet: | aah. unfortunately I dont have a frys locally. |
| [05:26:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: haha, OKaint exactly happening place :) |
| [05:26:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: nope, it sure isn't. |
| [05:27:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: trying to decide if I really care that much about the IR blaster and the remotes. |
| [05:27:00] | mchou: | you only need one irblaster :) |
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| [05:27:00] | CyberKnet: | then I'd have to futz with lirc to use them, and that's a pain in the ass that I've avoided thus far quite nicely with my IR keyboard. |
| [05:27:00] | mchou: | you dont nned two. |
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| [05:28:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: well, if you got ir kb I'd say it's a non-issue. |
| [05:28:00] | mchou: | need* |
| [05:28:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I was thinking the same thing. |
| [05:28:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: the blaster portion doesnt work in lirc (yet) anyways. |
| [05:29:00] | mchou: | but I'm sure it will. |
| [05:31:00] | CyberKnet: | I think a 500 would work best for me then, since I'd only have to connect the one RF input and it would split it internally. |
| [05:31:00] | mortal5: | anyone here use the ivtv driver? |
| [05:31:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: huh?? |
| [05:31:00] | ** xris needs food. ** | |
| [05:31:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: that's what I had heard. |
| [05:31:00] | xris: | afk |
| [05:32:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: do you think I heard wrong? |
| [05:33:00] | mchou: | beats me. does 500 have radio? |
| [05:33:00] | CyberKnet: | yes. |
| [05:33:00] | mchou: | ok, it has internal splitter. |
| [05:34:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: on the surface that seems like an odd way to determine if it has a splitter =) |
| [05:34:00] | CyberKnet: | *grin* |
| [05:34:00] | [stu]away: | is there a key that goes directly to the EPG? when I press M, I get a menu with Program Guide, Browse Mode, etc, and it takes a second OK button to bring up the EPG |
| [05:34:00] | CyberKnet: | [stu]away: yes, there is. |
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| [05:35:00] | CyberKnet: | [stu]: do some reading, or start pressing keys. |
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| [05:38:00] | [stu]: | i tried the reading first, /usr/share/doc/mythtv-0.18.1/keys.txt says "M brings up the electronic program guide (Grid)" |
| [05:39:00] | riksta: | S does M brings up menu |
| [05:39:00] | [stu]: | but when I press M, I get a menu with 6 options, of which Program Guide is one |
| [05:39:00] | riksta: | S |
| [05:40:00] | [stu]: | thanks riksta |
| [05:40:00] | CyberKnet: | [stu]: you'd think it was such a hard thing to just pound a few damn keys. |
| [05:40:00] | riksta: | i know yeah |
| [05:41:00] | riksta: | there's only 26 |
| [05:41:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: give a few extra, but yeah. |
| [05:41:00] | riksta: | i was messin ;) |
| [05:41:00] | [stu]: | well, that machine is 5 blocks away and all I have is an ssh connection, which makes it tricky to send keypresses to the front end |
| [05:42:00] | riksta: | you are watching tv from 5 blocks away, wow |
| [05:42:00] | [stu]: | who said i was watching tv? |
| [05:44:00] | [stu]: | ssh is fine for changing lircrc so the remote's 'Guide' button will sand an S and actually bring up the guide |
| [05:45:00] | [stu]: | even if i might not see it in action myself for a few days |
| [05:47:00] | riksta: | i dont really understand why you would do it while you aren't there |
| [05:47:00] | [stu]: | for the sake of others that are there |
| [05:47:00] | riksta: | ok |
| [05:50:00] | CyberKnet: | well folks, it's been real. |
| [05:50:00] | CyberKnet: | later. |
| [05:50:00] | [stu]: | that said, i'd probably also think someone had something seriously wrong with their head if they came into a chat room asking a question like mine instead of just pushing buttons |
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| [05:50:00] | [stu]: | take luck! |
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| [06:02:00] | Bachus9000: | What do I need installed to compile the mythtv plugins? There doesn't appear to be a debian package for mythgame that is up to date and I keep getting errors when I try to compile mythgame. |
| [06:05:00] | ananke: | Bachus9000 : uhmm, knowing the error would help somebody to determine what's missing :) |
| [06:08:00] | Bachus9000: | The first error I see is "gamesettings.h:4:29: mythtv/settings.h: No such file or directory" I was hoping to get a list of dependencies and mess with that before bothering people more, but whatever. :) |
| [06:12:00] | Bachus9000: | Do I need to compile mythtv before I can compile the plugins? |
| [06:14:00] | ananke: | uhmm, yes... |
| [06:17:00] | Bachus9000: | Well that sucks. What would be present after building it myself that wouldn't be in the binary package I've already got installed? Well, settings.h apparently.. :) |
| [06:19:00] | Agrajag-: | that's a silly thing to do.. compile all of it :) |
| [06:19:00] | Kronuz: | hey, is it better to have the ringbuffer file in a separated partition? |
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| [06:20:00] | Agrajag-: | separated partition from what? |
| [06:20:00] | Kronuz: | for the ringbuffer (to keep the cache) |
| [06:21:00] | Agrajag-: | i didn't ask what it was for |
| [06:21:00] | Agrajag-: | separated from the rest of your os? |
| [06:21:00] | Kronuz: | Agrajag-: oh :P |
| [06:21:00] | Kronuz: | Agrajag-: from the other files (like videos and MP3) |
| [06:21:00] | Kronuz: | (OS will be in other partition) |
| [06:22:00] | Kronuz: | I was thinking about creating a XFS for the ringbuffer |
| [06:22:00] | Agrajag-: | i guess so. but you might as well have it the same as your recordings (not sure if you can even separate them) |
| [06:22:00] | Kronuz: | but I was wondering if it would be okay to have it along other files, like videos, pictures, mp3, etc |
| [06:22:00] | Agrajag-: | you should consider doing lvm |
| [06:23:00] | Agrajag-: | so that it's scalable should you need another hdd or whatever |
| [06:23:00] | Kronuz: | yep, I'll use LVM |
| [06:23:00] | Agrajag-: | i dont see why you'd need another partition just for the ringbuffer though |
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| [06:24:00] | Agrajag-: | might as well keep all recordings/ringbuffer/myth related stuff on one |
| [06:24:00] | Kronuz: | dunno, that's the way knoppmyth does it |
| [06:24:00] | Kronuz: | I think |
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| [06:25:00] | Kronuz: | by the way, if I build MythTV, and later I update the sources and rebuild, how do I get rid of the old stuff, so there are no traces of the old binaries (and probably binaries or stuff that are no longer needed) |
| [06:26:00] | Agrajag-: | make sure you don't change the prefix – so keep everything in /usr/local |
| [06:27:00] | Kronuz: | oh, okay (I was going to, thanks for telling me) |
| [06:27:00] | Agrajag-: | make uninstall should work.. if you want to make sure, check out the /usr/local/*/myth* directories by hand |
| [06:27:00] | Kronuz: | so, there's where mythtv keeps all it's stuff (only inside myth* directories)? |
| [06:27:00] | Kronuz: | what about the binaries? |
| [06:28:00] | Kronuz: | also inside a myth* directory? |
| [06:28:00] | Agrajag-: | well yeah /usr/local/bin |
| [06:28:00] | Kronuz: | oh, okay |
| [06:28:00] | Agrajag-: | make uninstall will remove it all for you anyway (you just gotta trust it) :P |
| [06:28:00] | Kronuz: | :) |
| [06:29:00] | Kronuz: | hey, by the way, you know if mplayer has make uninstall? |
| [06:29:00] | Agrajag-: | no idea |
| [06:29:00] | Agrajag-: | what distro are you using? |
| [06:29:00] | Kronuz: | from scratch |
| [06:29:00] | Kronuz: | I'm building MySQL right now, and about to build MythTV :) |
| [06:30:00] | Agrajag-: | oh ok. well i think there are some tools which watch what a 'make install' installs and keeps track of it. never used them myself though |
| [06:30:00] | Agrajag-: | that... would be a pain in the arse :P |
| [06:30:00] | Kronuz: | what? what would be? |
| [06:30:00] | Agrajag-: | lfs |
| [06:30:00] | Kronuz: | not really |
| [06:30:00] | Kronuz: | and you end up with a really clean linux |
| [06:30:00] | Agrajag-: | well not everything provides a 'make uninstall' |
| [06:31:00] | Agrajag-: | no you don't! |
| [06:31:00] | Kronuz: | :P |
| [06:31:00] | Agrajag-: | you'll run into dependancy problems and you wont know what versions of things are installed |
| [06:31:00] | Kronuz: | I already have, but you can always fix them |
| [06:32:00] | Kronuz: | and you end up knowing exactly what versions of *everything* are installed |
| [06:32:00] | Agrajag-: | perhaps, if there's a 'make uninstall' |
| [06:33:00] | Agrajag-: | but otherwise you'll be removing stuff by hand :) |
| [06:33:00] | Kronuz: | yeah, I'm afraid so :P |
| [06:33:00] | Agrajag-: | and what happens when you upgrade your compiler and upgrade some basic lib |
| [06:33:00] | Agrajag-: | you'll have to go recompile everything! |
| [06:34:00] | Kronuz: | well, that's right... you've got a point |
| [06:36:00] | Kronuz: | other distros are definitely easier to work with :P |
| [06:36:00] | Agrajag-: | :) |
| [06:36:00] | Kronuz: | but I'm learning new stuff with LFS :) |
| [06:37:00] | Kronuz: | now, why the hell did I run the MySQL tests? :P |
| [06:37:00] | Kronuz: | it's taking ages!!! |
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| [06:49:00] | Bachus9000: | You probably would've been better off to use Gentoo. At least it keeps track of what's installed. :) |
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| [07:17:00] | Bachus9000: | How do I set which directory the mythtv plugins will install to? Debian's binary package installs to /usr, but when I compile the plugins they always install to /usr/local. I'm a relative linux newb, but I thought ./configure --prefix=/usr would do the job. |
| [07:19:00] | Agrajag-: | mixing binary packages and source installs isn't a good idea |
| [07:20:00] | Agrajag-: | and installing stuff to /usr on a debian system, when it's not via a debian package, is a pretty silly thing to do |
| [07:21:00] | Bachus9000: | Well, it's one thing and it doesn't do much so I figure it'll be OK. :) |
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| [07:23:00] | Agrajag-: | well if it doesn't work and you get errors relating to the compiler/version you compiled the plugins with compared to what the package was compiled with, and then dpkg breaking because you've got non-debian-installed files in somewhere other than /usr/local, i'll figure i told you not to do that :) |
| [07:23:00] | ottago: | has anyone gotten the UltraView DVB-T Plus working? |
| [07:24:00] | Bachus9000: | Fair enough. :) This still doesn't address why --prefix isn't doing anything. :) |
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| [07:25:00] | Agrajag-: | maybe it's a sign :) |
| [07:26:00] | Agrajag-: | but if you insist... did you recompile after doing the --prefix=/usr and make install? |
| [07:27:00] | Bachus9000: | Maybe, but then that leaves me with the problem I had in the first place--the only package I'm finding for mythgame is for 0.17 and that isn't working with mythtv 0.18. |
| [07:27:00] | Bachus9000: | Yes, I did. |
| [07:27:00] | Agrajag-: | of course 0.17 of the plugin isn't going to work with 0.18 of mythtv |
| [07:28:00] | Agrajag-: | why don't you just compile myth and myth-plugins from source |
| [07:28:00] | Bachus9000: | I did 'make uninstall' then 'make clean' then ./configure then 'qmake mythplugins.pro' then make then 'make install' |
| [07:29:00] | Bachus9000: | I could do that, but compiling just the plugin seemed like the best/most direct method of solving my problem. :) |
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| [07:47:00] | Cardoe: | Bachus9000: what distro? |
| [07:47:00] | Bachus9000: | Debian |
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| [07:48:00] | Cardoe: | so what's the error with installing it? |
| [07:49:00] | Bachus9000: | For the binary package, it simply isn't the right version (mythgame is 0.17 and mythtv is 0.18). I've tried compiling mythgame myself, but I can't get it to install to /usr instead of /usr/local and mythtv isn't seeing the plugin. |
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| [07:56:00] | Cardoe: | sed -e 's!PREFIX = /usr/local!PREFIX = /usr!' -i 'settings.pro' || die "fixing PREFIX to /usr failed" |
| [07:56:00] | Cardoe: | there's a sed for you |
| [07:57:00] | Bachus9000: | Thanks. I shall have to read more on this 'sed' program. :) |
| [07:59:00] | Cardoe: | Bachus9000: it just switches stuff in a file |
| [07:59:00] | Cardoe: | based on regex |
| [07:59:00] | Cardoe: | Bachus9000: edit the settings.pro file in the myth-plugins folder |
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| [08:02:00] | Bachus9000: | Aha, it worked. Thanks. :) |
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| [08:07:00] | LedHed: | anyone awake? |
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| [08:26:00] | Cardoe: | LedHed: yes |
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| [09:22:00] | j-rod: | wooohoooo!!!!!!!! |
| [09:23:00] | ** j-rod has a new job in two weeks ** | |
| [09:24:00] | stoffel_: | congrats! |
| [09:37:00] | j-rod: | thank you |
| [09:37:00] | j-rod: | definitely looking forward to it... |
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| [10:16:00] | ** KarlosII asks for recommendations what I could use as a online store web site that is open source, or should I have one made? ** | |
| [10:18:00] | stoffel_: | not mythtv |
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| [10:19:00] | Kronuz: | hello :) |
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| [10:20:00] | Kronuz: | Table 'mythconverg.videosource' doesn't exist (when I try mythfilldatabase) |
| [10:20:00] | Kronuz: | what's creating the tables? |
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| [10:48:00] | ** KarlosII brb ** | |
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| [10:49:00] | Kronuz: | hey, what fonts is mythtv using? |
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| [10:49:00] | Kronuz: | 'cause I can see only squares |
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| [12:01:00] | KarlosII: | anyone here |
| [12:01:00] | KarlosII: | what's the solution to this? |
| [12:01:00] | KarlosII: | 2005-06–09 05:00:51.725 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [12:01:00] | KarlosII: | Connection timed out. |
| [12:03:00] | adante: | backend alive? |
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| [12:15:00] | KarlosII: | yup |
| [12:15:00] | KarlosII: | 127.0.0.1 |
| [12:16:00] | KarlosII: | adante :) |
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| [12:47:00] | adante: | KarlosII: sorry, dinner |
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| [12:48:00] | adante: | did your backend crash at any stage and require you to restart it? |
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| [13:51:00] | shanon: | I am getting pipe:: Error while opening file when using nuvexport-xvid. The file plays fine in the front end and I have read permisions. Can any one give me any pointers? |
| [13:52:00] | brejc8: | I think you do not have permissions to write the pipe files in the current directory |
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| [14:10:00] | shanon: | brejc8: hmmm. But the pipes are owned by user I am running as and so is the dir |
| [14:11:00] | brejc8: | shanon: oh ok. I assumed you were in some root directory |
| [14:11:00] | shanon: | no |
| [14:11:00] | shanon: | but I can see why you thought that |
| [14:12:00] | shanon: | It sets up the pipes ok. ffmpeg just has problems with them |
| [14:12:00] | brejc8: | I dunno about that then |
| [14:13:00] | shanon: | actually I just tried running nuvexport with out any parameters and it says unsing ffmpeg.... and all of the exports are disbled! |
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| [14:15:00] | Kronuz: | hello |
| [14:15:00] | shanon: | Any idea why they would all be disabled |
| [14:15:00] | shanon: | hey |
| [14:15:00] | brejc8: | lo |
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| [14:16:00] | brejc8: | No Idea. The one of the users might be on in a mo |
| [14:16:00] | Kronuz: | is there a way to disable xmame? |
| [14:16:00] | brejc8: | Disable? Why? |
| [14:16:00] | Kronuz: | (in MythGame) |
| [14:16:00] | Kronuz: | 'cause I don't have it |
| [14:16:00] | Kronuz: | but I do have snes nes and atari |
| [14:16:00] | brejc8: | Why dont you get it. It's great |
| [14:17:00] | Kronuz: | maybe later, I wanted to configure the others first |
| [14:17:00] | brejc8: | Ignore it them |
| [14:17:00] | shanon: | hmmm I think I am missing a dependency. It would be nice if it told you want it was missing instead of just disabling things |
| [14:17:00] | Kronuz: | I'm having problems configuring zsnes, fceu and stella |
| [14:18:00] | Kronuz: | have you configured them? |
| [14:18:00] | Kronuz: | I have the binaries installed |
| [14:18:00] | brejc8: | I only use xmame |
| [14:18:00] | Kronuz: | :( |
| [14:24:00] | Kronuz: | has anyone configured zsnes? |
| [14:25:00] | Kronuz: | 'cause it's working but on a small window |
| [14:25:00] | Kronuz: | and my fceu is working in full screen, but without sound |
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| [14:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think MythGame needs an overhaul, and should be more flexible when it comes to adding new emulators |
| [14:35:00] | Kronuz: | brejc8: you have roms for mame? |
| [14:35:00] | Kronuz: | morning GreyFoxx |
| [14:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mornin |
| [14:35:00] | brejc8: | I have all the ones for 0.85 and patched them up to 0.93 before I lost track |
| [14:35:00] | brejc8: | 7 DVDs |
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| [14:35:00] | Kronuz: | 7 DVDs?!?!?? |
| [14:36:00] | brejc8: | yeah. A lot. |
| [14:36:00] | Kronuz: | wow |
| [14:36:00] | Kronuz: | I heve some SNES and NES roms |
| [14:36:00] | brejc8: | I deleted them off the box and keep them on DVDs for a while because I was running out of space |
| [14:36:00] | ** GreyFoxx is playing with a Genesis emulator right now. :) I love my sonic the hedgehog ** | |
| [14:36:00] | Kronuz: | what's the genesis emulator? |
| [14:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | "gens" is it's name |
| [14:37:00] | brejc8: | "Genesis" aka "Megadrive" |
| [14:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [14:37:00] | Kronuz: | you can configure it on mythtv? |
| [14:37:00] | f00bar: | argh, mythtv is complaining that there has been an error with OSS, but I don't know why |
| [14:37:00] | brejc8: | Dont use OSS |
| [14:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | No |
| [14:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm launching it manually |
| [14:38:00] | Kronuz: | :( |
| [14:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's part of why I think it's time to make some big changes to mythgame |
| [14:38:00] | Kronuz: | yep, big changes needed |
| [14:38:00] | brejc8: | A more generic fronend to allow easy plugin of additional emulators? |
| [14:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | brejc8: That is my intention |
| [14:39:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: you know how to make zsnes and fceu work in full screen? |
| [14:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Add new "emulators" like you add capture cards |
| [14:39:00] | Kronuz: | I mean zsnes and stella |
| [14:39:00] | brejc8: | Getting the games list is the only problem I see. The rest can be configureable |
| [14:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | zsnes was easy(no I don't remember how I did it) when I set it up |
| [14:39:00] | Kronuz: | (fceu is running in full screen) |
| [14:40:00] | Kronuz: | also, why do you think fceu has no sound? |
| [14:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | No idea |
| [14:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | brejc8: I'm in the process of setting up myth on a vmware session on my laptop so that I can mess around with mythgame |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | and hopefully get it to where I want it |
| [14:41:00] | brejc8: | Why dont you just make a linux partition? |
| [14:41:00] | brejc8: | not enough space? |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cause VMware is simple, and far more powerful than just adding a dedicated linux install |
| [14:41:00] | Kronuz: | hey, what font should I have installed for mythtv? Arial? |
| [14:42:00] | Kronuz: | (just Arial?) |
| [14:42:00] | Kronuz: | 'cause this morning I was trying and all I could see were little squares |
| [14:42:00] | brejc8: | BTW Maybe all emulators could be done using MESS instead of lmany different ones for different architectures |
| [14:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | brejc8: And my laptop is a mass of vmware sessions for many different things,. It's trivial to take a snapsop of one and customizing it to the task at hand :) |
| [14:42:00] | Kronuz: | (later I found the directory where the fonts were supposed to go, was empty, so I copied my window's arial font there and it sort of worked) |
| [14:43:00] | Kronuz: | ... but the font size is too small in the TV |
| [14:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ick, it defaulted to KDE. *quickly disables* |
| [14:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | be interesting to see how well gens runs under vmware :) |
| [14:48:00] | Kronuz: | do I have to have alsa-oss compatibility module loaded for mythtv? |
| [14:48:00] | brejc8: | A friend of mine moved over to fedora from SUSE to Fedora and he is really enjoying the lightweight xfce |
| [14:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, it's not like he couldn't have used xfce in aany other distro :) |
| [14:49:00] | brejc8: | Spot the point at which someone distracted me while writing that sentence |
| [14:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [14:50:00] | brejc8: | true but he doesnt like messing around with things |
| [14:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kronuz: You would if you were not using myth's alsa support and were using OSS output |
| [14:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | My Grandmother is using KDE on Slackware 10.1, she loves it (And yes I'm dead serious) |
| [14:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can appreciate KDE for what it does and it's prettyness. I just prefer a lightweight WM for my uses |
| [14:51:00] | Kronuz: | hey, how do you configure the internal video player? |
| [14:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | By googling the mailing list and reading the mythtv.org website |
| [14:52:00] | Kronuz: | :P |
| [14:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | I assume you have Myth installed by now ? |
| [14:55:00] | Kronuz: | yep |
| [14:55:00] | Kronuz: | :) |
| [14:55:00] | f00bar: | are there any epia users in here? |
| [14:58:00] | f00bar: | ~silence~ |
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| [15:05:00] | GeckoFiend: | f00bar building an epia system using LFS now... |
| [15:06:00] | f00bar: | GeckoFiend: have you built one before? |
| [15:07:00] | GeckoFiend: | I've got this one running KM now. |
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| [15:15:00] | f00bar: | GeckoFiend: do you have a pvr tv capture card |
| [15:15:00] | f00bar: | i have an analogue bttv one and my epia is having trouble encoding the stream |
| [15:16:00] | GeckoFiend: | f00bar heh yeah if you want a BE on an epia you need to use hardware encoding |
| [15:16:00] | Kronuz: | GeckoFiend: what window manager will you use |
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| [15:17:00] | GeckoFiend: | ratpoison |
| [15:17:00] | Kronuz: | hmm never heard of it |
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| [15:19:00] | Kronuz: | GeckoFiend: I got MythTV from the cvs... how do you use the internal video and DVD players? |
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| [15:19:00] | GeckoFiend: | on this box? not yet |
| [15:20:00] | Kronuz: | GeckoFiend: what box? |
| [15:23:00] | GeckoFiend: | Kronuz sorry got my conversations crossed |
| [15:23:00] | Kronuz: | :P |
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| [15:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | Just set the player command for DVDs and videos to be "Internal" |
| [15:25:00] | Kronuz: | instead of it saying "mplayer... etc" ? |
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| [15:28:00] | Kronuz: | hmmm can't read the text on the TV :P |
| [15:28:00] | GeckoFiend: | yeah |
| [15:29:00] | brejc8: | Considering buying a projector instead of a TV. |
| [15:30:00] | Kronuz: | are the configuration screens fully customizables with skins? |
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| [15:30:00] | brejc8: | yeah |
| [15:30:00] | f00bar: | is mythtv's live tv stuff usable without an mpg2 encoding tvcard |
| [15:31:00] | brejc8: | no. Its fine with software decoding |
| [15:31:00] | f00bar: | I just have a normal tv card and loads of cpu is being used just encoding the video to show it instantly |
| [15:31:00] | brejc8: | Thats because you dont have xv turned on |
| [15:31:00] | brejc8: | xv = hardware acceleration |
| [15:31:00] | f00bar: | well, I need XvMC |
| [15:32:00] | brejc8: | No just Xv will do fine |
| [15:32:00] | f00bar: | but yeah, that's what im having trouble with |
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| [15:32:00] | f00bar: | how do i turn this on |
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| [15:32:00] | brejc8: | type in xvinfo |
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| [15:32:00] | brejc8: | what do you get? |
| [15:33:00] | f00bar: | i can't at the moment |
| [15:33:00] | f00bar: | (at work) |
| [15:33:00] | f00bar: | what should I be looking for |
| [15:33:00] | brejc8: | What gfx card are you using? |
| [15:34:00] | brejc8: | see if it has XV acceleration or not |
| [15:34:00] | f00bar: | unichrome |
| [15:34:00] | f00bar: | and yes it does |
| [15:34:00] | brejc8: | Well if it consumes a lot of the CPU then it prob isn't using it |
| [15:35:00] | brejc8: | Whait. What cpu do you have? |
| [15:35:00] | f00bar: | SP13000 |
| [15:35:00] | brejc8: | My playback uses 20% of a 2400 Celeron |
| [15:35:00] | brejc8: | how much cpu does your use? |
| [15:35:00] | f00bar: | im not sure how much mythfrontend uses but total is ~99% |
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| [15:35:00] | rpete: | xv isn't going to help the encoding process |
| [15:36:00] | f00bar: | i assumed it is because im encoding and decoding both in software |
| [15:36:00] | rpete: | yes, software encoding taxes the processor |
| [15:36:00] | brejc8: | Oh wait. You have a non hardware tv in? |
| [15:36:00] | brejc8: | I assumed you just needed to decode |
| [15:36:00] | f00bar: | yeah. i actually specified that above |
| [15:37:00] | f00bar: | so what are my chances with a standard bttv card then |
| [15:37:00] | rpete: | you could reduce the encoding resolution |
| [15:37:00] | rpete: | but not a lot else is going to help |
| [15:37:00] | brejc8: | I see. I read that as mpg2 decoding reather than encoding |
| [15:37:00] | f00bar: | yeah I did that but it looks horrible |
| [15:38:00] | brejc8: | Get an encoding card (not very much) |
| [15:38:00] | f00bar: | |
| [15:38:00] | brejc8: | only reasonable solution |
| [15:38:00] | f00bar: | for a student that is a lot |
| [15:38:00] | brejc8: | I am a student too and it is worth it. |
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| [15:39:00] | brejc8: | A nice digital picture. Skip eating for a week. |
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| [15:44:00] | f00bar: | if we had digital reception in my area I would just get a digital terrestrial card |
| [15:45:00] | brejc8: | f00bar: Where are you? |
| [15:46:00] | GeckoFiend: | heh £50 should be a hinty |
| [15:47:00] | f00bar: | brejc8: Bath, UK |
| [15:47:00] | f00bar: | hinty? |
| [15:47:00] | f00bar: | oh, hint :) |
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| [15:49:00] | brejc8: | Comes out as "not very much = ?50" on my window |
| [15:49:00] | brejc8: | Anyway. Bath has no digital reception? shocking |
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| [16:04:00] | Araldit: | I have just installed mythdvd and It works. No DVD menus, but think Im going with xine for DVD playback anyway. When Im finished watching the DVD it doesnt get umount'ed, so I cant eject it. Is there a workaround to this? |
| [16:05:00] | brejc8: | Dont use the gnome mounting system. Instead use automount |
| [16:06:00] | brejc8: | how are the discs being mounted? |
| [16:06:00] | Araldit: | I dont think I use the gnome mounting system, but I dont know. I currently run without a window manager |
| [16:06:00] | Araldit: | Well I thought that mythtv did. My /dev/cdrom is in the fstab, and that was all I did |
| [16:06:00] | brejc8: | something is automaticly mounting them. It shouldn't |
| [16:07:00] | Araldit: | I have chosen the myth monitor, think its that one who does it |
| [16:08:00] | brejc8: | I don't have that on. |
| [16:08:00] | Araldit: | k |
| [16:08:00] | Araldit: | I'll try turning it off |
| [16:14:00] | f00bar: | brejc8: Bath is in a basin so we can't recieve the main digital broadcast. Our re-transmitter only carries 4 terrestrial channels. |
| [16:15:00] | f00bar: | this is soon to change though hopefully |
| [16:15:00] | brejc8: | Thats not good. So you gonna get a new transmitter? |
| [16:16:00] | Kronuz: | why is sound not working with my fceu :( |
| [16:18:00] | f00bar: | brejc8: SW England is going to be one of the first places to switch over to digital so they are going to have to set up a new transmitter soon |
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| [16:19:00] | brejc8: | First time I feel privileged to be in NW. |
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| [16:22:00] | hfb: | Anyone here have any experience serial based ir transmitters? |
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| [16:39:00] | Araldit: | sure |
| [16:39:00] | Araldit: | Im using one right now |
| [16:41:00] | hfb: | Hi Araldit |
| [16:41:00] | Araldit: | hi |
| [16:41:00] | hfb: | So far I've build two. The simple one and the vidal one. |
| [16:41:00] | Araldit: | k. |
| [16:42:00] | Kronuz: | oh, fceu only has oss drivers |
| [16:42:00] | Kronuz: | :P |
| [16:42:00] | Araldit: | Are they working |
| [16:43:00] | bjohnson: | what cli commands will show a mpg's info? My file command just shows: MPEG sequence, v1, system multiplex |
| [16:43:00] | hfb: | So far I replaced the ir led with a standard led for testing on the simple circuit. http://lirc.org/images/simple_transmitter.gif |
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| [16:43:00] | hfb: | Araldit: Not that I can tell. |
| [16:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | tcprobe -i filename if you have transcode installed |
| [16:44:00] | bjohnson: | I thought that just did avis .. I'll try it |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | bjohnson: what info? |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | tcprobe should do it |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | or mplayer |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | nuvinfo :) |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | (from nuvexport) |
| [16:44:00] | Araldit: | hfb: Replacing the ir led with a normal led.. Seems like its more of an transeiver than a serial receiver |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | it will use mplayer to get the info |
| [16:45:00] | bjohnson: | image size and audio format/frequency |
| [16:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | tcprobe should show that |
| [16:45:00] | hfb: | I have working ir receivers. This is a transmitter. |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo: | tcprobe should do it |
| [16:45:00] | Araldit: | k |
| [16:45:00] | Araldit: | Whats the problem then |
| [16:45:00] | hfb: | It's not transmitting. |
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| [16:46:00] | Araldit: | Do you have the circuit schematics somewhere. |
| [16:46:00] | Kronuz: | okay, now I only need zsnes to work in full screen... anyone knows how? |
| [16:46:00] | hfb: | Araldit: http://lirc.org/images/simple_transmitter.gif this will work. |
| [16:47:00] | hfb: | On one end you have the dtr connection and the other that is not listed is the ground. |
| [16:47:00] | bjohnson: | tcprobe doesn't show image size and shows no audio on these files |
| [16:47:00] | Araldit: | hfb: Yeah, And by placing a normal LED you will see it flash when it should transmit, and it doesn't |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | bjohnson: odd |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | it should |
| [16:47:00] | hfb: | Araldit: I checked the voltage between dtr and ground -10volts. |
| [16:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kronuz: Just use the config->video menu and pick a resolution which runs as full, not windowed |
| [16:48:00] | hfb: | Araldit: Correct. No flash. |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | hfb: make sure you put the LED in the right way around |
| [16:48:00] | hfb: | Beirdo: I tried reversing it too. |
| [16:49:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: okay, but how? |
| [16:49:00] | Araldit: | hfb: If you measure -10 V, then you got a problem, couse the ur diode 1n4148 will be open, and no current will flow to the diode |
| [16:49:00] | Kronuz: | config->video inside zsnes? |
| [16:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | But how what ? |
| [16:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well duh |
| [16:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | of course |
| [16:49:00] | Kronuz: | how do you open the config menu? |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | Araldit: DTR -> Ground will always be negative when DTR is on |
| [16:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Have you actually taken anytime on your own to look at the menus available in there? |
| [16:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use a mouse, but I'm sure a keyboard can be used |
| [16:50:00] | Kronuz: | under mythgame I thin the gui is being disabled |
| [16:50:00] | Kronuz: | think* |
| [16:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ahhh |
| [16:50:00] | Kronuz: | I've configured zsnes to full screen out of mythgame |
| [16:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then run it manually, configure it, and your done |
| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | DTR asserted is negative, DTR turned off is positive (if I remember my RS232 correctly) |
| [16:50:00] | Kronuz: | hmm let me try :) |
| [16:50:00] | hfb: | Araldit and Beirdo, the other ir transmitter I build was this. http://lirc.org/images/improved_transmitter.gif |
| [16:51:00] | hfb: | Beirdo: That is what I understood too. |
| [16:52:00] | Araldit: | hfb: How big is the resistor? Just figure, that if it is around 1k, then you could place the DTR to positiv 12V and the other end to ground, Just to see if ur LED is burned or wrong placed.. |
| [16:52:00] | Beirdo: | that too |
| [16:52:00] | bjohnson: | here's another question: I've been using avidemux2 to make some vcds and it works for my player. However I have one file it won't process because it says the frame rate is too low (15 fps). Is there another easy way to convert this avi to vcd mpg? |
| [16:53:00] | Kronuz: | :S |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | nuvexport |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | or use ffmpeg |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | or transcode |
| [16:53:00] | hfb: | Araldit: I jumped the led (reversed) directly to dtr and gnd. It lit up fine. |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | well, nuvexport is for .nuv, .mpg |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | but you can get much of the command line from it |
| [16:53:00] | bjohnson: | I tried transcod but 1. it took forever to find the args that looked like it worked and 2. the audio was shifted from the video |
| [16:53:00] | Kronuz: | same problem I had the other day using full screen in zsnes I lose the console for it |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | or use virtualdub in winblows, with TMPGEnc |
| [16:55:00] | Araldit: | hfb: If ur DTR is as Beirdo says -10V when it should transmit, then the diagram is not correct, the diode should be turned 180 degrees. |
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| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | "the diode" |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | there are like 7 diodes in that schematic |
| [16:55:00] | hfb: | But if what Beirdo says is correct the voltage should chage to +10 |
| [16:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | hrm, wonder how welkl zsnes will work under vmware heh |
| [16:56:00] | Araldit: | Beirdo: Ahh Im looking at the first one. There is only 1. 1N4148 http://lirc.org/images/simple_transmitter.gif |
| [16:56:00] | hfb: | For testing I will use the simple cercuit. http://lirc.org/images/simple_transmitter.gif |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | they may use DTR off to light it up too |
| [16:56:00] | hfb: | Ignore the improved for testing. I will work with the simple one. |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | either way |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | do you have a 9v battery? |
| [16:57:00] | hfb: | Yup. I just did that. :) the simple circuit worked fine. |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | right, so use it :) |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | maybe the script you are using is doing it wrong or something |
| [16:59:00] | hfb: | I'm testing with lirc and irsend. I've used several lircd.conf files. |
| [17:00:00] | maniacxs: | hi there, i do not get epg over air (dvb) working... the people where it works for, is it done with single lnb or diseqc? |
| [17:03:00] | hfb: | Araldit and Beirdo, I'm going to start over and turn off the machine for a few minutes and only test with the simple circuit just to make sure. |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | have fun |
| [17:03:00] | Araldit: | k |
| [17:04:00] | Kronuz: | okay it's working now :) |
| [17:04:00] | Kronuz: | what's next... hey, you know how to fix the screen so the sides aren't cropped on my tv? |
| [17:05:00] | Kronuz: | 'cause they're being cropped... I'm using a pvr350 |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | You are outputing the zsnes window to a 350 ? |
| [17:06:00] | Kronuz: | yep |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, I can imagine you might have problems :) |
| [17:07:00] | Kronuz: | everythin's to the TV |
| [17:07:00] | Kronuz: | not problems, just the cropped sides (in Mythtv, not the game) |
| [17:07:00] | Kronuz: | it works perfectly :) |
| [17:07:00] | Kronuz: | (almost) |
| [17:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | but by cropping do you mean you can't see the edges as they go past the edge of the tv or is it in the middle actually missing parts of the screen ? |
| [17:08:00] | Kronuz: | yeah, I can't see the edges |
| [17:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's not being cropped, it's called overscan. All tv's do it. you just normally don't realized it. in the case here you know where the edge of the image is so you notice it's paste the edge of the screen |
| [17:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't think you have overscan controls with the 350, but you can configure myth to run in a smaller space than the full screen(for just menus if you want) |
| [17:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | and then line it up to fit exactly |
| [17:09:00] | Kronuz: | I see, how is that done? |
| [17:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Via the myth setup menus |
| [17:09:00] | Kronuz: | oh, so that's what those x y things in the setup are for |
| [17:09:00] | JonK: | in the settings menu for appearance, and then for tv playback |
| [17:10:00] | JonK: | appearche is for the gui |
| [17:10:00] | JonK: | tv playback has overscan settings |
| [17:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kronuz: Yeah, you can set the x/y size and there are settings for the x/y offset to line it up |
| [17:11:00] | Kronuz: | what style looks nicer? |
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| [17:12:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [17:13:00] | Kronuz: | oops I guess 300 is too small :P |
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| [17:14:00] | Kronuz: | in what file are those settings, if I want to manually change those values? |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | they are stored in the mysql db |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | all settings are in the db |
| [17:15:00] | Kronuz: | what's the deafult screen width? |
| [17:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | full screen, default values are 0 |
| [17:16:00] | Kronuz: | could it be 720x480? |
| [17:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | if that is what your resolution is. 0 = full screen |
| [17:17:00] | Kronuz: | oh, yeah, I think that was it |
| [17:17:00] | Kronuz: | (when I set it in xorg.cong) |
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| [17:17:00] | JonK: | for the 350 tvout yes it is |
| [17:18:00] | JonK: | and for the X interface, I have not found a way to resize it |
| [17:18:00] | JonK: | only the myth GUI and playback overscan |
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| [17:20:00] | Kronuz: | the same values can be used for playback? |
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| [17:23:00] | Kronuz: | I have found the "Prev" and Next" buttons are too close to the edges |
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| [17:24:00] | Kronuz: | in general configuration should have a bigger margin I thing |
| [17:24:00] | Kronuz: | think* |
| [17:24:00] | Kronuz: | can it be changed with skins? |
| [17:25:00] | Kronuz: | (the position of Cancel Back Next buttons, as well as the margins and the size of the other controls) |
| [17:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | You have to look at the themes. I'm sure you can move them around in some fashion |
| [17:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | themes are defined in .xml files |
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| [17:30:00] | Kronuz: | what's the popup background shading method? |
| [17:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | whether or not forground windows are translucent, or filled with a bitmap |
| [17:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | I believe |
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| [17:33:00] | brejc8: | Anyone else reading slashdot headline "Nerds Make Better Lovers" ? |
| [17:37:00] | Kronuz: | what controles the size of the main menu fonts? |
| [17:37:00] | Kronuz: | is it just in the xml? |
| [17:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kronuz: There are settings in the Appearance menus for that as well I think |
| [17:37:00] | brejc8: | The small/medium/large font options are in the Appearence menu |
| [17:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's what I've used to configure the font suzes |
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| [17:38:00] | Kronuz: | brejc8: I saw those, but it seems only the medium makes a difference |
| [17:38:00] | Kronuz: | the other two don't seem to change anything |
| [17:39:00] | Kronuz: | (small and big) |
| [17:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kronuz: You not only set the font size for small, medium, and large |
| [17:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | but you also have to tell whcih to use |
| [17:39:00] | Kronuz: | there's also de "Font size" |
| [17:39:00] | Kronuz: | I'm using the default, I guess it's medium then |
| [17:40:00] | Kronuz: | :P |
| [17:41:00] | Kronuz: | setting "Font size" doesn't change anything (or so it seems) |
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| [17:41:00] | Kronuz: | the only thing that seems to change the size of the font is if I change the medium font size |
| [17:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | you might very well have to restart mythfrontend after changing to small or large, I don't remember |
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| [17:42:00] | Kronuz: | what's the phone plugin for, anyway? |
| [17:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Guess |
| [17:43:00] | JonK: | on screen caller ID id guess |
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| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythphone is for doing voip/sip calls possibly with video |
| [17:43:00] | JonK: | cool |
| [17:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is also some thing in there that people used for popping callerid info onto your screen |
| [17:44:00] | hfb: | Beirdo: Okay, I decided to switch to another computer, but I was thinking about the 9 volt battery. |
| [17:44:00] | JonK: | I don't have a home phone, just a cellphone, so i'd never looked |
| [17:45:00] | Kronuz: | mythfilldatabase is for getting the tv schedules into mythtv? |
| [17:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [17:45:00] | Kronuz: | I see |
| [17:45:00] | Kronuz: | once I start getting how mythtv works, I hope I can make some code contributions :) |
| [17:47:00] | Kronuz: | I hope I can make some speed improvements, 'cause in my PC it's a bit slow |
| [17:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | what kind of pc ? |
| [17:47:00] | Kronuz: | athlon 900 with 256 MB ram |
| [17:48:00] | brejc8: | Speed in what? playback? |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Be aware that the pvr350's framebuffer is quiet slow |
| [17:48:00] | hfb: | Beirdo: Vidal's circuit charges the capacitor using the negative volts from dts. The capacitor is used for backup voltage when dts changes to positive. Now I was thinking that I could test vidals circuit by first charging the capacitor by applying dts to negative and gnd to positive to charge the capacitor using the battery. Then just turn the battery around to see if the led comes on. . |
| [17:48:00] | brejc8: | 900 is more than enough |
| [17:48:00] | Kronuz: | well sort of in everything |
| [17:48:00] | hfb: | Beirdo: All that make sence? :) |
| [17:48:00] | Beirdo: | I think so |
| [17:48:00] | Kronuz: | it feels heavy |
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| [17:49:00] | brejc8: | Speed isn't a problem. Memory might be |
| [17:50:00] | Kronuz: | you think so? |
| [17:50:00] | Kronuz: | hmmm |
| [17:50:00] | Kronuz: | I'll try adding some more |
| [17:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | and you might notice speed issues with the 350's framebuffer/screen writes being a little slow. definately slower than a regular video card |
| [17:50:00] | Chutt: | a "little" slow is a bit of an understatement :p |
| [17:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [17:51:00] | Kronuz: | lol |
| [17:51:00] | Kronuz: | :S |
| [17:51:00] | hfb: | Beirdo: Okay, I switched computers. Both circuits work, but the resistor is too much on the simple circuit. |
| [17:51:00] | Kronuz: | (I have that card) |
| [17:51:00] | Kronuz: | looking for SNES games... ('bout 700 of them :P) |
| [17:51:00] | Kronuz: | it's taking a while |
| [17:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chutt: Well, so far with a newly compiled, and newly configured mysql so mythbackend crashes... odd that it would start when I only installed the latest cvs, but hopefully I wont see it again :) |
| [17:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | so = no |
| [17:53:00] | Kronuz: | there's the lirc_i2c module, right, and the X lirc program... is something else I need for the remote? |
| [17:54:00] | Kronuz: | the "X lirc program" I mentioned, is really an X program? |
| [17:54:00] | Kronuz: | or just a regular daemon? |
| [17:55:00] | GeckoFiend: | Kronuz have you RTFM at all?!?! |
| [17:55:00] | Kronuz: | I'm reading it |
| [17:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | GeckoFiend: with the amount of questions I highly doubt it :) |
| [17:56:00] | Kronuz: | :P |
| [17:56:00] | Kronuz: | I'm always asking stuff and I find it a second later in the manuals |
| [17:56:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: word of advice... probably best to read that document from start to finish before going any further. |
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| [17:58:00] | sphing: | I installed mythtv with apt-get and now i want to remove it |
| [17:58:00] | sphing: | .. how? |
| [17:58:00] | brejc8: | apt-get remove mythtv-suite |
| [17:59:00] | sphing: | no package... i did apt-get remove mythtv |
| [17:59:00] | brejc8: | or run synaptic and remove each mythtv part |
| [17:59:00] | sphing: | but the executables are still there |
| [17:59:00] | brejc8: | "apt-cache search myth" will find all myth packages |
| [18:02:00] | Kronuz: | does the integrated player support subtitles? |
| [18:03:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [18:03:00] | brejc8: | Kronuz: As we say here "Suck it and see" |
| [18:04:00] | Kronuz: | I'm trying one divx and I have the subtitles as srt |
| [18:04:00] | Kronuz: | but it doesn't automatically show them |
| [18:04:00] | kormoc: | so there ya go then |
| [18:04:00] | brejc8: | I doubted it would |
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| [18:05:00] | Kronuz: | :( |
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| [18:28:00] | hfb: | Beirdo and Araldit, Oh yeah. Thanks. |
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| [18:40:00] | j-rod: | sphing, faster way to uninstall all myth packages: # rpm -e `rpm -qa | grep myth` |
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| [18:45:00] | ** xris dreams of cooking gadgets: http://www.pacojet.com/html/en/paco_jet.htm ** | |
| [18:45:00] | xris: | j-rod: unless he has some other package with "myth" in the name. |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | grep ^myth |
| [18:48:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [18:48:00] | Henkie: | "Attempted to transcode myth://192.168.2.5:6543/1016_20050609193700_20050609194200.nuv. Mythtranscode is currently unable to transcode remote files" |
| [18:48:00] | Henkie: | is this supposed to happen? |
| [18:48:00] | Henkie: | i have 2 boxes linked |
| [18:49:00] | xris: | Beirdo: libmyth |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | hmm right |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | damn, I'm bored |
| [18:50:00] | Beirdo: | working is so overrated |
| [18:51:00] | xris: | Henkie: mythtranscode should run on the remote box |
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| [18:52:00] | Henkie: | xris, as a daemon? |
| [18:52:00] | xris: | Henkie: mythbackend should launch it |
| [18:52:00] | xris: | you shouldn't really ever run it on your own. |
| [18:52:00] | Henkie: | xris, no it doesnt :( |
| [18:52:00] | xris: | Henkie: is the remote backend configured to allow such jobs? |
| [18:52:00] | Henkie: | the error i pasted comes from mythbackend on 192.168.2.4 |
| [18:53:00] | xris: | Henkie: but you need a mythbackend on .5 to run that job. |
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| [18:53:00] | Henkie: | xris, mythbackend runs on both |
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| [18:55:00] | xris: | Henkie: make sure the remote backend is set up to run mythtranscode. |
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| [18:56:00] | Henkie: | xris, how do i do that? Already ran mythsetup, and said "high-cpu" allowed could only find a switch for allowing commercial flagging, nothing specific about transcoding |
| [18:59:00] | j-rod: | xris, yeah, there would be that... |
| [18:59:00] | j-rod: | and yeah, ^myth won't work |
| [19:00:00] | j-rod: | ^myth|^libmyth |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | picky picky :) |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | or just do the grep, inspect the list :) |
| [19:01:00] | xris: | yup |
| [19:01:00] | j-rod: | or that |
| [19:01:00] | xris: | double-click, space, middle-click |
| [19:01:00] | ** j-rod starts at Linux Networx in two weeks ** | |
| [19:01:00] | j-rod: | bbiab |
| [19:01:00] | xris: | ooh, nice. |
| [19:01:00] | ** Beirdo cheers for j-rod ** | |
| [19:01:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [19:02:00] | kormoc: | yay! |
| [19:03:00] | sphing: | when I try to watch livetv... it goes black screen and doesn't respond to keyboard... i need to kill through ssh'ing in... |
| [19:03:00] | sphing: | any ideas? |
| [19:03:00] | kormoc: | j-rod, the guy on the webpage looks scary. |
| [19:04:00] | xris: | sphing: but recording works? |
| [19:04:00] | sphing: | on the console that i ran it: "rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/mnt/store//ringbul1.nuv" |
| [19:04:00] | sphing: | xris: not sure... |
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| [19:05:00] | brejc8: | Try recording. On dvb if you start tuned into a non existant channel then it can do that |
| [19:05:00] | xris: | sphing: set up a 3 min manual recording and then try to play it back. |
| [19:06:00] | sphing: | yea thats what i'm doing |
| [19:06:00] | j-rod: | kormoc, that's me on the webpage. :p |
| [19:07:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [19:07:00] | j-rod: | heh, he does look a little "Agent Smith" |
| [19:07:00] | j-rod: | they made a NICE offer |
| [19:07:00] | kormoc: | "Welcome to faster sims, but first, you got to get though me..." |
| [19:07:00] | xris: | j-rod: so you've moved from sysadmin to modeling, and aged 20 years? |
| [19:07:00] | j-rod: | better than I was going to push for |
| [19:07:00] | xris: | sweet. |
| [19:07:00] | j-rod: | heh, yup |
| [19:08:00] | ** xris grumbles at how it's going to lessen the chances of getting j-rod to work at simech. ** | |
| [19:08:00] | j-rod: | sorry :( |
| [19:09:00] | sphing: | xris: i can't stop the recording |
| [19:09:00] | xris: | sphing: huh? |
| [19:09:00] | sphing: | it says Override Recording – .... |
| [19:09:00] | brejc8: | why do you want to stop it? |
| [19:09:00] | brejc8: | leave it recording and go and watch it |
| [19:10:00] | sphing: | it was just a test record to see if my live tv is messed up |
| [19:10:00] | sphing: | brejc8: I can't |
| [19:10:00] | CyberKnet: | j-rod: You're a model now? |
| [19:10:00] | xris: | sounds like a problem. |
| [19:10:00] | xris: | j-rod: congratz, though. |
| [19:10:00] | sphing: | Media Library -> Watch -> and theres a circle with the link through it on the bottom left |
| [19:12:00] | brejc8: | is there a dollar inside the circle? |
| [19:12:00] | sphing: | nope |
| [19:12:00] | mirak: | I have just realised I can put mythfrontend in a virtual desktop |
| [19:12:00] | xris: | heh |
| [19:13:00] | mirak: | I was close to run another display |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [19:13:00] | mirak: | ok, now it's really usable on a dekstop box |
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| [19:13:00] | sphing: | xris: when i exit the frontend the terminal says Error: FIle missing a bunch of times |
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| [19:14:00] | sphing: | if I go high enough... i see /mnt/store/<bunch of numbers>.nuv file not found |
| [19:14:00] | brejc8: | Do you have write permission in the fifo and recording directories? |
| [19:14:00] | kormoc: | what's in /mnt/store? |
| [19:14:00] | sphing: | where the files are being store... which is 777 |
| [19:14:00] | sphing: | brejc8: how do i check perms in fifo? |
| [19:15:00] | brejc8: | ls -l /mnt/store/ |
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| [19:16:00] | sphing: | running master as backend... whoops |
| [19:16:00] | sphing: | *master as root |
| [19:18:00] | j-rod: | xris, thank you, I'm pretty damned excited |
| [19:19:00] | j-rod: | CyberKnet, heh, no, cluster systems admin/eng |
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| [19:20:00] | sphing: | brejc8: the front end says Error, /mnt/store//<numbers> |
| [19:20:00] | sphing: | note the 2 / before the numbers |
| [19:20:00] | sphing: | and those files do no exist |
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| [19:21:00] | kormoc: | the double / isn't really a problem |
| [19:21:00] | CyberKnet: | j-rod: that's fantastic news. Hopefully you'll still have time to create the HOWTOs that the visitors to this room somehow manage to read and *still* need to ask questions =) |
| [19:21:00] | ** CyberKnet has a pet goldfish that can install myth by those documents without asking questions. ** | |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:23:00] | brejc8: | sphing: record something else |
| [19:23:00] | brejc8: | sphing:and watch it |
| [19:23:00] | xris: | j-rod: well, better job, shorter commute.. hard to be upset. |
| [19:24:00] | sphing: | brejc8: I did.. i can't watch it... the files are in /mnt/store |
| [19:24:00] | brejc8: | have both people got access to that directory? |
| [19:25:00] | sphing: | its 777 |
| [19:28:00] | j-rod: | hehe |
| [19:28:00] | j-rod: | yeah, better job, shorter commute, and a $1000/mo increase in pay doesn't hurt at all |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | so what's the downside? |
| [19:30:00] | xris: | $1k/month? DAMN. |
| [19:30:00] | brejc8: | 1k extra / month |
| [19:30:00] | xris: | since you were making decent enough money before, if I recall. |
| [19:31:00] | ** xris wonders if he's underpaid. ** | |
| [19:31:00] | ** xris knows that he's not. ** | |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | of course you are |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:31:00] | xris: | lol |
| [19:31:00] | xris: | no, my WIFE is underpaid. |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:31:00] | xris: | and has a sucky job. |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | so pay her more, you stingy bastard |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:31:00] | brejc8: | I bet she never complains about it too |
| [19:31:00] | xris: | well, she'll hear back today (hopefully) about a possible promotion. |
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| [19:32:00] | xris: | brejc8: considering that she's a trained pastry cook and barely makes over minimum wage because the f*cking company "forgot" to tell her boss about the new way to request raises for her staff. |
| [19:32:00] | Chutt: | ooh, pastries |
| [19:33:00] | brejc8: | What is the minimum wage over there? |
| [19:33:00] | brejc8: | Here it is £5 |
| [19:33:00] | xris: | but 2 people quitting has opened the possibility for promotion and raise. and if she doesn't get both, she'll quit. |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | xris: you need to send her to work with the axe :) |
| [19:33:00] | xris: | $7.16/hour, I think. she makes $7.50 |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | pastries++ |
| [19:33:00] | xris: | she *should* be making about $12 |
| [19:33:00] | brejc8: | That does suck |
| [19:34:00] | xris: | her boss was PISSED when she found out how little my wife makes. |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | xris: if she quits, quick, move to Vancouver :) |
| [19:34:00] | xris: | heh |
| [19:34:00] | xris: | well, she has an interview on monday with a no-meat bed and breakfast looking for a cook. |
| [19:34:00] | brejc8: | Mine complins endlessly about her £13,000 wage after doing a masters. |
| [19:35:00] | xris: | brejc8: set your irc client to print 8859–1 instead of utf-8 |
| [19:35:00] | xris: | but yeah. I hate to think how little I'd make if I only had my college degrees to back me up. heh. |
| [19:35:00] | brejc8: | oh Ill have a look . Its gaim |
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| [19:36:00] | brejc8: | xris:Stupid gaim. there isn't an option |
| [19:36:00] | xris: | brejc8: me, too. it defaults to utf-8 for some reason, which confuses some irc clients. |
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| [19:37:00] | xris: | brejc8: it's under the account settings, advanced. |
| [19:37:00] | ** xris needs to remind his wife to make lemon mousse tonight. ** | |
| [19:37:00] | xris: | and then I need to find something crunchy to put the mousse ON |
| [19:37:00] | brejc8: | xris: Would have never looked there |
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| [19:39:00] | Chutt: | xris, j-rod, so, want to talk about migrating cvs sometime? |
| [19:40:00] | ** xris perks up ** | |
| [19:40:00] | xris: | Chutt: sure, just let me know when. |
| [19:40:00] | Chutt: | maybe this weekend, unless my wife gets crazy and wants me to restain the deck |
| [19:40:00] | ** xris did that a couple of weeks ago. ** | |
| [19:40:00] | xris: | still needs another coat, but the weather got wet again. |
| [19:41:00] | Chutt: | we need to powerwash + strip it again, so i've been putting it off :( |
| [19:41:00] | xris: | yeah, it was a lot of work. had to do it with a brush because the wood is so old. not fun. |
| [19:42:00] | hfb: | Beirdo: Do you know much about capacitors? |
| [19:42:00] | Chutt: | and then i need to dig up my front porch, it's sagging :( |
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| [19:42:00] | Chutt: | but, hopefully this weekend for svn =) |
| [19:42:00] | xris: | anyway, my weekend is rather free |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | hfb: enough for now |
| [19:43:00] | xris: | it probably wouldn't take all that long to convert to svn, and would be pretty easy to use svn2cvs to keep the cvs repository in sync. |
| [19:43:00] | Chutt: | i want to branch stuff for the mythui work, and i think it'll be easier if i switch before doing that |
| [19:43:00] | xris: | probably. plus, svn is so much cleaner for that stuff. |
| [19:43:00] | Chutt: | oh, what about the bugzilla install? |
| [19:44:00] | xris: | well, it'd be best to move it to trac. dunno about importing. are there that many open bugs? |
| [19:44:00] | Chutt: | possible to migrate that? |
| [19:44:00] | Chutt: | yeah, a bunch |
| [19:44:00] | Beirdo: | we can look for an importer, I know there are some out |
| [19:45:00] | Beirdo: | I imported stuff from sourceforge even |
| [19:45:00] | xris: | yeah, trac seems to come with a bugzilla2trac import script |
| [19:45:00] | xris: | http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracImport |
| [19:46:00] | j-rod: | Chutt, yes! :) |
| [19:46:00] | Chutt: | great |
| [19:47:00] | j-rod: | I think my weekend is relatively free too |
| [19:47:00] | j-rod: | managed to placate my wife by 1) agreeing to drop a chunk to remodel our kitchen (cabinet refacing and new counter tops) and 2) getting a new job |
| [19:47:00] | xris: | we could probably do most of the setup early, too... |
| [19:48:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [19:48:00] | xris: | definitely need to use the devel version of trac, though. the current release doesn't handle emailing of tickets. |
| [19:48:00] | j-rod: | yeah, definitely, could have trac and subversion in place ahead of time |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | I should likely catch up on my bugs... |
| [19:49:00] | xris: | I also have modified versions of the post-commit scripts for emailing commits, as well as for trac integration (eg. add "closes #123" to the log, and it closes that ticket) |
| [19:49:00] | j-rod: | then its just a matter of time running the cvs repos through cvs2svn (provided by the svn guys) |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | then cleaning up extra tags, etc you no longer want |
| [19:49:00] | xris: | yeah. it's actually a pretty quick thing to set up, plus the cleanup. |
| [19:50:00] | j-rod: | Chutt, got a pref on repo access method? |
| [19:50:00] | Chutt: | ssh for people with write access |
| [19:50:00] | ** xris votes for https or ssh ** | |
| [19:50:00] | Chutt: | would prefer not the http method |
| [19:50:00] | Chutt: | but, not sure how anon works, otherwise |
| [19:50:00] | j-rod: | https is easier to set up |
| [19:50:00] | j-rod: | piece o cake, actually |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | I have my nuvexport stuff set up for anon via https, and write via svn+ssh |
| [19:51:00] | Chutt: | i'll have to ask snowman what his preferences are |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | it's all fairly easy to set up. |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | need to get mod_python set up, though. apparently it gives a HUGE speed increase. |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | s/speed/performance/ |
| [19:52:00] | Chutt: | installing stuff shouldn't be a problem |
| [19:52:00] | xris: | yeah. it's the setup that's the problem. then again, I'm trying to do all kinds of funky multi-project stuff in my svn setup and I can't figure out if mod_python is completely compatible with mod_rewrite in this instance. |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | mod_fuckuptheurl |
| [19:53:00] | xris: | so would we be doing something like trac.mythtv.org for trac, and svn.mythtv.org for http svn access? |
| [19:53:00] | j-rod: | I've got a working setup that allows anon checkout over http and requires a login to commit |
| [19:53:00] | Chutt: | i dunno |
| [19:53:00] | j-rod: | <LimitExcept GET PROPFIND OPTIONS REPORT> |
| [19:53:00] | xris: | j-rod: mine's similar to that, too. |
| [19:53:00] | Chutt: | it'll all be running on the same vserver |
| [19:53:00] | sphing: | my backend is complaining about unable to open /dev/dsp, but I don't have a sound card |
| [19:54:00] | Chutt: | but there can be separate hostnames, of course |
| [19:54:00] | j-rod: | then within that limit, require auth |
| [19:54:00] | xris: | Chutt: ok, I see.. so the subdomains just forward to a directory on mythtv.org.. that works. |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: sounds familiar :) |
| [19:54:00] | xris: | so mythtv.org/trac and mythtv.org/svn |
| [19:54:00] | Chutt: | xris, no, cvs.mythtv.org is currently a separate vserver than www.mythtv.org |
| [19:54:00] | xris: | gotcha. so separate vhosts are ok. |
| [19:55:00] | j-rod: | Beirdo, yeah, pretty much right out of the docs, nothing fancy I did myself. :) |
| [19:55:00] | xris: | well, then it's up to you/snowman to pick how you want it to be laid out. |
| [19:55:00] | Chutt: | like a uml, but much lower impact on the system |
| [19:55:00] | Chutt: | http://linux-vserver.org/ |
| [19:55:00] | xris: | oh, that kind of vserver. |
| [19:55:00] | Kronuz: | mythtv.org/svn? |
| [19:55:00] | j-rod: | Chutt, you'll want svn and trac within the same vserver |
| [19:55:00] | Kronuz: | is mythtv moving to svn? |
| [19:55:00] | Chutt: | j-rod, right, i was assuming we'd just use the cvs one |
| [19:55:00] | xris: | Kronuz: soon |
| [19:55:00] | Kronuz: | cool :) |
| [19:55:00] | j-rod: | worksforme |
| [19:56:00] | Kronuz: | everybody's moving to svn |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | xris: the same kinda vserver I'm running for my trac :) |
| [19:56:00] | j-rod: | the same, only different |
| [19:56:00] | j-rod: | er, wait |
| [19:56:00] | Chutt: | it's nice, we used to have cvs be in a uml at the last colo place |
| [19:56:00] | j-rod: | Beirdo, are you using vserver or xen? |
| [19:56:00] | Kronuz: | are you using bdb or filesystem for the repository? |
| [19:56:00] | Chutt: | really hurt performance, though |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | I'm using vservers |
| [19:57:00] | j-rod: | Kronuz, haven't got that far yet |
| [19:57:00] | xris: | Kronuz: haven't gotten that far, but it'll be fsfs because bdb sucks. |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | xen doesn't support AMD64 |
| [19:57:00] | j-rod: | but I definitely suggest fsfs |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | at least didn't when I looked last |
| [19:57:00] | sphing: | when I try to have my capture card's Audio device to none, it just resets to /dev/dsp |
| [19:57:00] | j-rod: | ah, that's right |
| [19:58:00] | j-rod: | and subversion 1.2.x w/the new delta scheme |
| [19:58:00] | sphing: | can anyone help me out? |
| [19:58:00] | j-rod: | though myth doesn't have that many binary files |
| [19:58:00] | xris: | does 1.2 work with 1.1 clients? |
| [19:58:00] | j-rod: | (the new delta scheme helps speed w/large directories of images here) |
| [19:58:00] | j-rod: | xris, yeah |
| [19:59:00] | xris: | ok, that's cool, then. |
| [19:59:00] | xris: | since fc3 doesn't have 1.2 |
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| [19:59:00] | j-rod: | except for 1.1 clients will ignore exclusive locks set by 1.2 clients |
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| [19:59:00] | xris: | or ubuntu-hoary, for that matter |
| [19:59:00] | ** Beirdo pats the hoary hedgehog ** | |
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| [20:00:00] | ** j-rod pets his FC4 box that will soon be no more ** | |
| [20:00:00] | ** j-rod now turns to look at his shiny new PowerBook G4 and grins. :) ** | |
| [20:00:00] | ** xris wants a powerbook-p4m ** | |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | still some things about ubuntu that confuse me at times, but I do like it |
| [20:01:00] | j-rod: | PBG4 Pentium-M does have some potential... |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [20:01:00] | j-rod: | er, PBPM |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | bah bah bah |
| [20:01:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [20:01:00] | xris: | lol |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | if I want Pentium-M crap, I'll buy IBM |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | gonna be overpriced either way |
| [20:01:00] | j-rod: | eh, it'll be in a nicer enclosure and run OS X though |
| [20:01:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [20:01:00] | j-rod: | mine wasn't obscenely expensive |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | I like the IBM laptops mostly, but yeah, Apple's good for that |
| [20:02:00] | j-rod: | 15" widescreen, 1.67GHz G4, DVD burner, 80GB 5400 rpm HD, 1.5GB of RAM, about $2300 |
| [20:02:00] | Chutt: | that's pricey |
| [20:03:00] | j-rod: | I've also got FC4t3 ppc on it, but haven't spent much time working with it yet (still need to get X working) |
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| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | put ubuntu hoary PPC on there, I can send you CDs :) |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:03:00] | j-rod: | not cheap, no |
| [20:03:00] | j-rod: | Beirdo, I have the CDs already, my iBook has that installed |
| [20:03:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [20:03:00] | ** Beirdo pimps the hedgehog ** | |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | ah cool |
| [20:04:00] | j-rod: | A similarly configured Dell laptop isn't much cheaper, from what I recall |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | Dell-- |
| [20:04:00] | ** j-rod goes to double-check... ** | |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | them's crappy laptops |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | at my former employer, we had to ship every damn one of them back in less than a year for replacement |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | which is why I refused to use a laptop there :) |
| [20:06:00] | sphing: | where is the mysql password stored? |
| [20:06:00] | sphing: | that myth uses |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | in mysql.txt |
| [20:06:00] | sphing: | in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt right? |
| [20:06:00] | Chutt: | my wife's dell laptop's been working pretty well for the past 2 years |
| [20:06:00] | Chutt: | no complaints :p |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | Chutt: consider yourself lucky :) |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | then again she likely doesn't abuse it like geeks at work |
| [20:07:00] | Chutt: | i just bought my brother a dell desktop for college next year – 3ghz p4, 1gb ram, 160gb drive, cd+rw, dvd dual layer burner, 19" display, all for $1000 |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [20:07:00] | j-rod: | Not a huge Dell fan myself, typically |
| [20:07:00] | xris: | their desktops are ok. |
| [20:07:00] | Chutt: | thought that was a pretty spiffy deal, personally |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | their desktops are pretty decent for what ya pay |
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| [20:07:00] | JonK: | i've seen a couple instances of the mysql.txt |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | my dad and my sister both bought them |
| [20:08:00] | xris: | we even refer people to dell when they ask if we sell workstations. |
| [20:08:00] | JonK: | there is one in home/[user]/.msql.txt |
| [20:08:00] | JonK: | and in etc |
| [20:08:00] | sphing: | thanks JonK |
| [20:08:00] | JonK: | cd /usr/local |
| [20:08:00] | JonK: | damnit |
| [20:08:00] | sphing: | ha |
| [20:08:00] | xris: | JonK: /etc/mythtv/, /usr/local/share/mythtv/, /usr/share/mythtv/, ~/.mythtv/ |
| [20:08:00] | JonK: | I was just looking for that one |
| [20:08:00] | xris: | not necessarily in that order, and I may have missed something |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | nothing a little strace can't find if you don't wanna read the code |
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| [20:09:00] | xris: | yup |
| [20:09:00] | sphing: | xris: my capture card settings aren't saving |
| [20:10:00] | sphing: | i want to change my audio to none and it wont save in the mysql |
| [20:10:00] | JonK: | I just ate a turkey sandwich |
| [20:10:00] | JonK: | now back to work |
| [20:10:00] | xris: | Chutt: anyway, I'll be around as much as I ever am, so just let me know if/when you need any help with the migration. |
| [20:11:00] | Chutt: | sure |
| [20:11:00] | Chutt: | sounds good |
| [20:11:00] | xris: | it's probably a good idea to get trac set up early, though |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | I can help if you need the extra help. with both xris and j-rod, I'll likely just be in the way :) |
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| [20:14:00] | j-rod: | Move, Beirdo, get out the way, get out the way Beirdo, get out the way (to the tune of Move by Ludacris, or whatever its called...) |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:14:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [20:15:00] | Beirdo: | I should likely work on mpeg2cut and nuv2avi this weekend anyways |
| [20:15:00] | j-rod: | certainly could end up with too many cooks in the kitchen, but hey |
| [20:15:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I'll be around anyways |
| [20:15:00] | j-rod: | more eyes double-checking work is good |
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| [20:16:00] | j-rod: | Back to Dell... Similar laptop, $2000. |
| [20:16:00] | j-rod: | not too far off |
| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | I'd rather have the Apple :) |
| [20:16:00] | j-rod: | and this thing is much prettier |
| [20:17:00] | j-rod: | we've had good luck with all our recent Dell server purchases and our Dell workstations are pretty good |
| [20:17:00] | ** xris misses having a friend who works for apple (she quit to work elsewhere)... 15–25% discounts. ** | |
| [20:17:00] | j-rod: | ooh, nice |
| [20:17:00] | JonK: | damn..... fully 269 consecutive lines in auth.log are some idiot throwing random user names at my ssh server this morning |
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| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:18:00] | j-rod: | yup, saw similar on a friend's box |
| [20:18:00] | j-rod: | all from one IP |
| [20:18:00] | j-rod: | iptables shut him up |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | and a nice email to their ISP is a nice touch too |
| [20:18:00] | j-rod: | forgot to do that |
| [20:18:00] | JonK: | these appear to be two different ip's |
| [20:18:00] | j-rod: | mmm... lunch time... |
| [20:18:00] | j-rod: | bbiaw |
| [20:19:00] | xris: | JonK: it's probably a bot |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | even for 2 IPs, might be worth it |
| [20:19:00] | JonK: | i would guess |
| [20:19:00] | xris: | I get that occasionally, too. and "root" "admin" etc. |
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| [20:20:00] | JonK: | shaun, sven, steve, steven temp, tim tom tony vaessa will willie win... |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
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| [20:20:00] | xris: | that's why you set authentication to without-password |
| [20:20:00] | JonK: | use keypair? |
| [20:20:00] | xris: | JonK: I have someone who does that to my wife's domain for email. |
| [20:21:00] | xris: | JonK: yeah. ssh key + agent forwarding (when needed) |
| [20:21:00] | xris: | afk |
| [20:21:00] | JonK: | I've done that before, should set it up again.. |
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| [20:24:00] | CyberKnet: | I only get people sending email as supposedly *from* my domain. |
| [20:24:00] | CyberKnet: | but the same method. random users. |
| [20:24:00] | CyberKnet: | I get the frigging bounce messages. |
| [20:25:00] | CyberKnet: | I tried to set up SPF, but for some reason the DNS doesn't seem to be replicating, or even though the DNS web interface says it is there it really isn't. |
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| [20:26:00] | JonK: | ouch |
| [20:27:00] | kernoman: | anyone know if the black screen on leaving the EPG when using the 350 tvout will be fixed soon? |
| [20:27:00] | CyberKnet: | and even SPF wouldn't help *that* much, because not too many places implement it. |
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| [20:32:00] | kernoman: | anyone? |
| [20:33:00] | dude12412: | hi |
| [20:33:00] | kernoman: | hi |
| [20:33:00] | dude12412: | u use mythtv? |
| [20:34:00] | kernoman: | yep |
| [20:34:00] | kernoman: | why? |
| [20:34:00] | JonK: | i do to |
| [20:34:00] | dude12412: | well, im thinking about installing it, but, i have very little linux experience |
| [20:34:00] | JonK: | it makes my head wish to explode |
| [20:35:00] | JonK: | I'm wondering why I ever thought — gee, i should stop paying tivo 12.95 a month, i know, i'll build my own |
| [20:35:00] | dude12412: | would you recommend it over mce 2005? |
| [20:35:00] | kernoman: | hehe thats true, i fix one problem and another appears, if only ic ould get my damn tvout to look nice |
| [20:35:00] | JonK: | what's wrong with tvout? |
| [20:35:00] | JonK: | do you have experience with computers? |
| [20:35:00] | dude12412: | ya |
| [20:35:00] | JonK: | or an interest? |
| [20:35:00] | kernoman: | i still got my tivo, that is a cool gadget |
| [20:36:00] | dude12412: | i build all of mine |
| [20:36:00] | dude12412: | but i only build them for games |
| [20:36:00] | dude12412: | and i used to be able to program c++ |
| [20:36:00] | kernoman: | me nah im do PCs for a living |
| [20:36:00] | JonK: | then you should definitely start learning linux |
| [20:36:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [20:36:00] | kernoman: | my tvout is not very sharp |
| [20:36:00] | dude12412: | then ill learn it with mythtv i guess |
| [20:36:00] | JonK: | mythtv would be a great way to do it — you get exposure to many many many aspects of system admin |
| [20:36:00] | dude12412: | cuz i dont have any other uses right now for it |
| [20:37:00] | dude12412: | well, im majoring in aerospace engineering, so i may have ot use it in the future |
| [20:37:00] | JonK: | users, daemaons, packing, installing, database, apache.... |
| [20:37:00] | dude12412: | ya, i dont know what most of that is |
| [20:37:00] | JonK: | i meant packaging |
| [20:37:00] | JonK: | damn my typing sucks |
| [20:38:00] | dude12412: | ok, well, where should i start for installing mythtv? |
| [20:38:00] | JonK: | funny that I write for a living.... |
| [20:38:00] | dude12412: | i have a pvr-150 |
| [20:38:00] | JonK: | start with ivtv |
| [20:38:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [20:38:00] | JonK: | you need to get the driver modules working for the card |
| [20:38:00] | JonK: | before you can install mythtv |
| [20:38:00] | kernoman: | just follow the guide on knoppmythwiki youll be fine |
| [20:38:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [20:38:00] | JonK: | errr... before you can use mythtv |
| [20:38:00] | dude12412: | my other question is, is knoppmyth the best or most stable? |
| [20:39:00] | JonK: | i would use something other than knoppmyth as a distrobution — take a look at ubuntu |
| [20:39:00] | JonK: | great distro for learning |
| [20:39:00] | dude12412: | i have mce2005, does it have the problems that most windows computers have? |
| [20:39:00] | JonK: | that it runs on a microsoft operating system, no |
| [20:39:00] | JonK: | it does not |
| [20:39:00] | kernoman: | ubuntu is great but as both ubuntu and knoppmyth are based on debin i dont think it matters which you choose. bear in mind knoppmyth is a distro aimed just at running mythtv |
| [20:40:00] | dude12412: | anything that makes myth tv better than mce2005? |
| [20:40:00] | JonK: | multiple front end backend? |
| [20:40:00] | kernoman: | not seen mce2005 |
| [20:40:00] | dude12412: | i dont know what that means |
| [20:40:00] | kernoman: | anyone here happy with their tv out? |
| [20:40:00] | dude12412: | i could install it and tell you |
| [20:40:00] | JonK: | ok, in myth you can have multiple connected tv screens |
| [20:40:00] | JonK: | a computer for each one |
| [20:41:00] | JonK: | web based access? |
| [20:41:00] | JonK: | i like my tv out (mostly) but it's a pvr-350 |
| [20:41:00] | dude12412: | what graphics card do you have kernoman? |
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| [20:41:00] | JonK: | you can put files back on dvd |
| [20:41:00] | kernoman: | do you not find that going from the tv guide to live tv causes a black screen? im using nvidia fx2500 |
| [20:42:00] | JonK: | I'l have to try that |
| [20:42:00] | JonK: | haven't noticed, but i try to not watch live tv |
| [20:42:00] | dude12412: | why dont you watch live tv? |
| [20:42:00] | JonK: | after having the tivo, all i watch is recordings |
| [20:42:00] | dude12412: | commercials? |
| [20:42:00] | kernoman: | you must go in and out of the tv guide to see whats on? |
| [20:42:00] | JonK: | do you mean the on screen guide? |
| [20:43:00] | JonK: | while a recording is playing? |
| [20:43:00] | kernoman: | what about playing divx etc it dont play the,m well at all, transcoded stuff plays real bad too |
| [20:43:00] | JonK: | it does all that |
| [20:43:00] | kernoman: | i mean where it lists whats on all the cannels |
| [20:43:00] | JonK: | have not tried any divx or transcoded |
| [20:43:00] | JonK: | ill try to see if i can create the problem |
| [20:43:00] | kernoman: | if you do youll see why i wana get thenvidia working so bad :) |
| [20:44:00] | JonK: | dude12412 also — trust me — all the stuff you learn about running linux and is generally applicable |
| [20:44:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [20:44:00] | kernoman: | i guarantee if you go to live tv and bring up the guide (S) and then exit the guide your screen will go black |
| [20:44:00] | JonK: | ill try that |
| [20:44:00] | JonK: | but again, just dont watch live tv |
| [20:44:00] | JonK: | or watch it from a non pvr-350 tuner? |
| [20:45:00] | kernoman: | doesnt matter what you watch it from, if your tv out is from the pvr 350 youll get it, any chance you can try now? |
| [20:45:00] | JonK: | cant |
| [20:45:00] | JonK: | in office, not home |
| [20:46:00] | kernoman: | i forget you are probably in the US im in UK and its 20:46 |
| [20:46:00] | JonK: | ding ding |
| [20:46:00] | kernoman: | ? |
| [20:46:00] | dude12412: | another question, with myth tv, can i access music on another computer on the network that is a windows? |
| [20:46:00] | JonK: | you are correct |
| [20:47:00] | JonK: | yes |
| [20:47:00] | kernoman: | i see |
| [20:47:00] | JonK: | program you use is called samba |
| [20:47:00] | kernoman: | its dam hard to make these things wife friendly aint it! |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | depends on the wife |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:47:00] | JonK: | samba allows you to make a linux directory look like a window share, or allows a linux machine to connect to windows share |
| [20:47:00] | kernoman: | hehehe they dont like buttons |
| [20:48:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [20:49:00] | JonK: | but i think it still has trouble connectiong to a NTFS file system with read/write privileges |
| [20:49:00] | JonK: | anyone? |
| [20:49:00] | Dibblah: | JonK: Sorry. Completely unrelated ;) |
| [20:49:00] | kernoman: | i can connect to nfs with read write no probs |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | NTFS != NFS |
| [20:50:00] | Dibblah: | You can't see if it's NTFS at all through a SMB connection. |
| [20:50:00] | Dibblah: | Well, apart from permissions, etc. |
| [20:50:00] | CyberKnet: | aha! I got that SPF record to show! |
| [20:50:00] | JonK: | i thought I could read a NTFS windows share just fine, but that writing to one was somewhat sketchy |
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| [20:50:00] | Dibblah: | NTFS _partition_. |
| [20:50:00] | JonK: | in fact, I'm certain you can read (set up such system at old fim) |
| [20:51:00] | Dibblah: | ie mounting the drive directly on a Linux box. |
| [20:51:00] | Dibblah: | SMB access is completely seperate. |
| [20:51:00] | kormoc: | actually, that's how SMB works... |
| [20:51:00] | kernoman: | what the dev irc room called? |
| [20:51:00] | JonK: | am talking about samba |
| [20:51:00] | Dibblah: | Kormoc: ? |
| [20:52:00] | ** Beirdo wishies he could just go the hell home ** | |
| [20:52:00] | kormoc: | you 'mount' it and it sends SMB calls over based on what you attempt to do via the mounted dir |
| [20:52:00] | Dibblah: | JonK: Samba is the application. SMB is the protocol. |
| [20:52:00] | JonK: | yes |
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| [20:53:00] | Dibblah: | kormoc: Ummm... No. The underlying FS has no relation to SMB, really. |
| [20:53:00] | kernoman: | you guys all in the US? |
| [20:53:00] | Dibblah: | But this is straying somewhat far from Myth ;) |
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| [20:53:00] | Dibblah: | Scotland. |
| [20:53:00] | kormoc: | Dibblah, that's why it's a psudo filesystem and not a real filesystem. |
| [20:53:00] | kernoman: | cornwall! |
| [20:54:00] | Dibblah: | It's not a pseudo-filesystem at all. It's a network filesystem. |
| [20:54:00] | ** kormoc scratches his head ** | |
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| [20:54:00] | kernoman: | right im off to actually use my myth box cya guys |
| [20:54:00] | kormoc: | so if it's a network filesystem, why can't you mount it, I'm confused in why you say it's not but is... |
| [20:54:00] | dude12412: | cya |
| [20:54:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [20:54:00] | Dibblah: | Huh? You can just use Myth to watch TV? It's not just for fiddling with? |
| [20:55:00] | pert: | could anyone help me with a rather odd frontend problem? when i start mythtv from .xinitrc i get 'sh: line 1: gggg: command not found' in /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log |
| [20:55:00] | Dibblah: | kormoc: You do mount it. |
| [20:55:00] | Dibblah: | mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test |
| [20:55:00] | kormoc: | ooh, I misread what you said earlier |
| [20:55:00] | kormoc: | I thought you said mounting a smb share and using a smb share was different |
| [20:56:00] | JonK: | ok... now i've cleared up my confusion — mounting NTFS partition read write is one thing — mounting samba share another |
| [20:56:00] | JonK: | im mixing the two--- |
| [20:56:00] | kormoc: | which isn't what you said, which is why I'm so confused. |
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| [20:56:00] | pert: | JonK: what's wrong with smbfs? |
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| [20:56:00] | Dibblah: | It's OK. It's my job to confuse people. |
| [20:56:00] | JonK: | nothing |
| [20:56:00] | pert: | ok. anyone seen this 'gggg: command not found' error before? |
| [20:57:00] | JonK: | if you have an ntfs partition on a local drive (e.g., a dual boot machine) mounting the ntfs partition read write is an issue |
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| [20:57:00] | pert: | JonK: only if you want to keep your data ;) |
| [20:57:00] | JonK: | have you seen my data? |
| [20:57:00] | Dibblah: | It's not an issue if you're not creating any files and only write small amounts of changed data. However, if it dies, you're pretty well hosed. |
| [20:57:00] | JonK: | if you had you'd want to keep it |
| [20:58:00] | JonK: | that's some fine looking data i got there |
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| [20:58:00] | pert: | JonK: haha cool. is it all porn then? |
| [20:59:00] | pert: | does anyone know where gentoo sticks the mythtv config files? i cant find anything in /etc |
| [20:59:00] | Dibblah: | Gentoo doesn't get a choice, really. |
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| [20:59:00] | Dibblah: | It's ~/.mythtv, usually. |
| [20:59:00] | Dibblah: | Or /usr/share/mythtv |
| [21:00:00] | pert: | Dibblah: even for things like the lirc configuration? |
| [21:00:00] | kormoc: | Dibblah, /etc/mythtv |
| [21:00:00] | pert: | kormoc: not with gentoo |
| [21:00:00] | kormoc: | /usr/share/mythtv isn't config files. |
| [21:00:00] | kormoc: | pert, ooh? tis where my gentoo stuck them. |
| [21:00:00] | Henkie: | pert, /var/log/mythtv/.mythtv/ |
| [21:00:00] | Henkie: | you'll find mysql.txt there |
| [21:00:00] | pert: | kormoc: strange. are you using the stock ebuild or a funky new one? |
| [21:01:00] | kormoc: | stock |
| [21:01:00] | pert: | Henkie: that's a very random place for it! |
| [21:01:00] | pert: | thanks |
| [21:01:00] | Henkie: | just found it myself :) |
| [21:01:00] | Henkie: | HOME="/var/log/mythtv/" <-- from /etc/init.d/mythbackend |
| [21:01:00] | kormoc: | pert, and /root/.mythtv/mysql.txt for the be and /home/user/.mythtv/mysql.txt for the frontend |
| [21:02:00] | kormoc: | oddish |
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| [21:02:00] | pert: | i'm actually looking for where this gggg might be specified. the only info i have found from google shows that it's something to do with lirc |
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| [21:03:00] | Henkie: | still not able to transcode to another machine :(( maybe it's something gentoo-specific |
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| [21:04:00] | JonK: | anyone have a working pvr350 and pvr500 in the same box? |
| [21:05:00] | Kronuz: | where can I get the Free*.ttf fonts? |
| [21:06:00] | ** Beirdo gets out the trout, puts "GOOGLE" on it and slaps Kronuz and JonK ** | |
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| [21:06:00] | JonK: | beirdo — you assume I've not googled ass off to try to solve problem so.... |
| [21:07:00] | ** JonK shows ass to beirdo ** | |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | see, it's still there, you obviously haven't |
| [21:07:00] | Cardoe: | pert: ~/,mythtv/ |
| [21:07:00] | Henkie: | 2005-06–09 22:06:25.993 Attempted to transcode myth://192.168.2.5:6543/1016_20050609193700_20050609194200.nuv. Mythtranscode is currently unable to transcode remote files. <-- which port should be used? tcpdump only shows 3306 (mysql) between the boxes :( |
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| [21:07:00] | Henkie: | no 6543 |
| [21:07:00] | JonK: | and what's the point of this forum if the only anwer you ever give is: gee go find an answer to your problem somehwere else |
| [21:08:00] | Cardoe: | pert: there's no /var/log/mythtv/.mythtv/ |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | Cardoe: there is if mythtv user's homedir is /var/log/mythtv |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | which would be a silly thing to do |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | or whatever user's running the myth stuff |
| [21:10:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: If his home is set to /var/log/mythtv. |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | which would be an odd choice |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | but not impossible |
| [21:10:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [21:10:00] | Cardoe: | yeah. it's not. |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | OK :) |
| [21:11:00] | Cardoe: | the backend doesn't make a .mythtv |
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| [21:13:00] | Chutt: | it will, if it's the first thing that's run after an installation |
| [21:13:00] | Chutt: | least, it should be |
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| [21:26:00] | ** j-rod raises his hand for "has a working pvr350 and pvr500 in the same box" ** | |
| [21:27:00] | ** Beirdo raises a finger... oh wait... behave ** | |
| [21:27:00] | twisted_one: | j-rod: congrats |
| [21:27:00] | j-rod: | twisted_one, for having that combo working? |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | I will sometime soon be building a new PVR with 2 PVR500 |
| [21:27:00] | j-rod: | twernt nothin |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | dunno what I'll do with the 3 PVR250 though :) |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [21:28:00] | JonK: | jrod — could you post your alias configuration |
| [21:28:00] | j-rod: | JonK, its been posted for ages and ages. :) |
| [21:28:00] | JonK: | i have one tuner loading properly and another not loading |
| [21:28:00] | j-rod: | er, wait, maybe not |
| [21:28:00] | ** Beirdo chuckles ** | |
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| [21:28:00] | j-rod: | options tuner addr=0x62 |
| [21:28:00] | JonK: | then i've probaly seen it |
| [21:29:00] | JonK: | will try |
| [21:29:00] | j-rod: | try adding that option, the radio tuner on the 500's first i2c bus is likely getting picked up instead of the tv tuner |
| [21:29:00] | JonK: | tyring now, thanks for the tip — that's one option I have not tried |
| [21:30:00] | j-rod: | ack |
| [21:30:00] | j-rod: | JonK, that should actually be 0x61 |
| [21:30:00] | JonK: | does it matter where in the list of alias/options i put the line? |
| [21:31:00] | j-rod: | I don't think so |
| [21:31:00] | JonK: | I've wondered whether order mattered for these flags |
| [21:32:00] | JonK: | so added "optins tuner addr=0x61" <-- Correct? |
| [21:32:00] | JonK: | err options |
| [21:34:00] | j-rod: | I believe so |
| [21:34:00] | JonK: | testing .... |
| [21:35:00] | j-rod: | you can look at dmesg output to see if one of the tuner is getting found at 0x60 or 0xC0 |
| [21:35:00] | JonK: | just looking at dmesg now |
| [21:36:00] | JonK: | 350 still loards |
| [21:36:00] | JonK: | loads |
| [21:37:00] | JonK: | nope — still has "i2c client addr: 0x44 not found!" for "card #1" |
| [21:37:00] | JonK: | and now the second tuner also fails to load |
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| [21:40:00] | JonK: | there is a line |
| [21:40:00] | JonK: | tuner: chip found at addr 0xc2 i2c-bus ivtv i2c driver #1 |
| [21:40:00] | JonK: | try the 0xc2 address? |
| [21:40:00] | ** xris is still in disbelief about mythtv + trac + svn.... heh. ** | |
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| [21:43:00] | Chutt: | we'll try it out, see how things go |
| [21:43:00] | xris: | heh |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | I'm curious what else is going into svn 1.2... guess I should check. |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | I think you'll fall in love with it :) |
| [21:46:00] | Cardoe: | gotta update to trac 0.8.2 |
| [21:46:00] | Cardoe: | remember |
| [21:46:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [21:47:00] | xris: | huh? no, need devel tree |
| [21:47:00] | xris: | release stuff is still missing all of the email additions. |
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| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | maybe they should release :) |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:49:00] | xris: | there are also some browse-related bugs that I don't think got ported into 0.8.2 |
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| [21:49:00] | xris: | Beirdo: I wish they would... since one of the nasty bugs I found is a prerequisite for that... it's preventing me from upgrading trac on my python 2.2 system at work. |
| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [21:50:00] | JonK: | nope... |
| [21:50:00] | xris: | too much recursion. |
| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | In Soviet Russia, Python recurses YOU |
| [21:50:00] | JonK: | anyone want to buy a pvr500? Think I'm ready to switch to pvr250s instead |
| [21:51:00] | JonK: | what a country! |
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| [21:51:00] | pert: | hehe |
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| [22:05:00] | xris: | Beirdo: how does that work now that there is no Soviet Russia? |
| [22:05:00] | kormoc: | in Soviet Russia, there is a Soviet Russia! |
| [22:06:00] | Cardoe: | I never got the point of that joke. |
| [22:06:00] | kormoc: | there's a point to jokes? |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | Cardoe: oppressive government |
| [22:07:00] | JonK: | always a source for good jokes |
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| [22:10:00] | CyberKnet: | JonK: talk to me |
| [22:10:00] | JonK: | ? |
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| [22:12:00] | dude12412: | hello |
| [22:14:00] | dude12412: | anyone here? |
| [22:15:00] | CyberKnet: | nope |
| [22:15:00] | linux2 (~will@c-66-30-181-240.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [22:15:00] | linux2: | i need to record video from my video camera into an mpeg on my comp and have it not be too big. can mythtv do this? |
| [22:16:00] | JonK: | dude? |
| [22:16:00] | dude12412: | yes |
| [22:16:00] | dude12412: | im trying to set up my drivers and such a fresh instal of knoppmyth |
| [22:17:00] | linux2: | do you know the command to start it |
| [22:17:00] | linux2: | ? |
| [22:17:00] | JonK: | i don't know how knopmyth handles ivtv |
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| [22:17:00] | JonK: | download the source for ivtv and build your own |
| [22:18:00] | linux2: | i can't seem to get mythtv to start. does anyone know the command to start it? |
| [22:18:00] | JonK: | no, we were all wondering |
| [22:18:00] | stoffel: | linux2: mythfrontend, but i bet it will fail for you |
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| [22:19:00] | linux2: | why do you say that? |
| [22:19:00] | stoffel: | linux2: because you didn't even look at the docs describing mythtv and how to install it |
| [22:19:00] | linux2: | i installed it with an rpm |
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| [22:24:00] | JonK: | j-rod, could you post your module options file ? |
| [22:24:00] | twisted_one: | linux2: im still betting on failure =P |
| [22:25:00] | linux2: | twisted_one: well lets see if your right |
| [22:25:00] | JonK: | prove him wrong linux2! |
| [22:25:00] | JonK: | you not teh suk he thinks your are! |
| [22:26:00] | twisted_one: | JonK: think he even tried ivtv? =P |
| [22:26:00] | linux2: | twisted_one: you were right |
| [22:26:00] | linux2: | here is the error |
| [22:26:00] | linux2: | Unable to connect to database! |
| [22:26:00] | JonK: | you ==??? |
| [22:26:00] | JonK: | did you get the database from rpm 2? |
| [22:26:00] | twisted_one: | linux2: you need mysql started and prepped |
| [22:26:00] | linux2: | and there is some more but i am guessing someone knows what this means |
| [22:27:00] | twisted_one: | linux2: honestly read the docs and follow them for the install procedure, you will learn alot more about the install process and how things work that way. |
| [22:28:00] | twisted_one: | it will help you out later when you are trying do things with myth |
| [22:28:00] | linux2: | twisted_one: if i had the time i would |
| [22:28:00] | linux2: | but the only problem is that i need this all done by tomorrow |
| [22:28:00] | twisted_one: | linux2: I can respect that. |
| [22:28:00] | linux2: | i need to get 3 hours of video into an mpeg |
| [22:28:00] | linux2: | then edit it |
| [22:28:00] | twisted_one: | linux2: you're going to spend way too much time fiddling with the bs instead of just getting it done right the first time. |
| [22:28:00] | twisted_one: | whys that? |
| [22:29:00] | stoffel: | linux2: use a different program then, like lavrec, mencoder, ... |
| [22:29:00] | GeckoFiend: | linux2 you don't NEED myth to capture from a camera |
| [22:29:00] | JonK: | hell cat /dev/video0 > foo.mpg |
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| [22:29:00] | linux2: | well if someone would tell me how to record from the coax port without sound i would really appreciate it |
| [22:29:00] | linux2: | anyway |
| [22:29:00] | twisted_one: | sure thing =) |
| [22:30:00] | twisted_one: | have you installed a driver for your card? |
| [22:30:00] | j-rod: | JonK, my options are already online, minus the tuner line |
| [22:30:00] | j-rod: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [22:30:00] | linux2: | twisted_one: the card works fine i can watch tv and use the composite and s-video inputs |
| [22:30:00] | twisted_one: | linux2: what card? |
| [22:31:00] | linux2: | hang on one second let me get the info |
| [22:31:00] | ** j-rod might go buy a Tahoe tonight... ** | |
| [22:32:00] | linux2: | Bt878 that is the module but i don't know anything else |
| [22:32:00] | twisted_one: | linux2: lspci |
| [22:32:00] | j-rod: | lspci -v |
| [22:32:00] | linux2: | 02:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) |
| [22:32:00] | linux2: | 02:0a.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11) |
| [22:32:00] | twisted_one: | bttv is the driver then, eh guys? |
| [22:33:00] | stoffel: | should be, yes |
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| [22:33:00] | twisted_one: | does ivtv cover that? |
| [22:34:00] | brejc8: | mencoder would be the best thing here I think |
| [22:34:00] | stoffel: | nope |
| [22:34:00] | twisted_one: | bah, ok |
| [22:34:00] | brejc8: | bt878 is the cheap and nast old tv cards |
| [22:34:00] | twisted_one: | linux2: let these guys help you, Im rather new myself. |
| [22:34:00] | linux2: | brejc8: yes it is. lol |
| [22:34:00] | brejc8: | Unfortunately no hardware compression so the picture will be bad |
| [22:35:00] | linux2: | twisted_one: well thanks for you help you got something going here |
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| [22:35:00] | twisted_one: | linux2: np =) |
| [22:35:00] | brejc8: | http://itdp.fh-biergarten.de/~itdp/html/mplay . . . sg00073.html |
| [22:35:00] | brejc8: | try that |
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| [22:36:00] | linux2: | brejc8: darn i have to go. do you think you will still be here in 2 hours from now? |
| [22:37:00] | linux2: | at 8 or 9? |
| [22:37:00] | linux2: | cause i have to go to some concert thing for my school so the project is now getting more held up |
| [22:37:00] | brejc8: | Im in the UK |
| [22:37:00] | brejc8: | It is 22:37 here |
| [22:38:00] | dude12412: | i need some help, i dont even know where to begin, ive read soo many things, and im soo new to linux that i dont understand any of them |
| [22:38:00] | brejc8: | What is the problem? |
| [22:38:00] | linux2: | o well if you can. post anything else you find that i may find helpful here with linux2 before everything. thanks a lot |
| [22:38:00] | dude12412: | im tryin to install mythtv with a pvr-150 |
| [22:39:00] | dude12412: | and, i installed knoppmyth |
| [22:39:00] | dude12412: | but, i dont know how to use it or anything |
| [22:39:00] | ** linux2 is away: doing something important like usual ** | |
| [22:39:00] | JonK: | he's very important |
| [22:39:00] | brejc8: | linux2: actually that page tells you everything you need to do tyo encode a video into an avi |
| [22:39:00] | twisted_one: | lol |
| [22:39:00] | dude12412: | im a complete linux noob |
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| [22:40:00] | dude12412: | what do i do next after installing knoppmyth? |
| [22:41:00] | dude12412: | how do i install the drivers? |
| [22:41:00] | dude12412: | i have ivtv |
| [22:41:00] | dude12412: | but i dont know how to use it |
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| [22:44:00] | JonK: | how do you know you have ivtv? |
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| [22:45:00] | dude12412: | well, i got ivtv from the website, i dont know to use it |
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| [22:46:00] | dude12412: | should i install my card drivers first, remote drivers first, gfx card drivers first? i dont know where to start |
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| [22:47:00] | JonK: | card drivers first |
| [22:48:00] | JonK: | got ivtv from what website |
| [22:48:00] | dude12412: | ok |
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| [22:48:00] | dude12412: | http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=DownloadIvyTv |
| [22:48:00] | JonK: | good.. then what you downloaded was the actual source code |
| [22:48:00] | dude12412: | that the wrong place? |
| [22:48:00] | JonK: | you ahve to compile and install the drivers |
| [22:48:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [22:48:00] | dude12412: | so do i need a c++ compiler? |
| [22:48:00] | JonK: | unless you want to compile by hand, yes |
| [22:49:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [22:49:00] | dude12412: | which one would you suggest? |
| [22:49:00] | JonK: | g++/gcc |
| [22:49:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [22:49:00] | JonK: | the file you downloaded is a compressed tar file, do you know how to unpack |
| [22:49:00] | dude12412: | ya |
| [22:49:00] | JonK: | unpack, read the documents for installing |
| [22:49:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [22:49:00] | JonK: | and give it a whack |
| [22:50:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [22:50:00] | dude12412: | ill be back in a bit when i cant get it to work |
| [22:50:00] | JonK: | when you unpack it will have a file titled README |
| [22:50:00] | JonK: | read it |
| [22:50:00] | CanadaBoy: | can anyone tell me where my file is on my linux box that list my shares? |
| [22:50:00] | JonK: | then other fields in the doc directory |
| [22:51:00] | CanadaBoy: | trying to modify my windows mounted shamba shares |
| [22:51:00] | CanadaBoy: | samba rather |
| [22:51:00] | kormoc: | CanadaBoy, /etc/samba/smb.conf or similar? |
| [22:51:00] | CanadaBoy: | sec. |
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| [22:52:00] | CanadaBoy: | thats not the one im looking for |
| [22:53:00] | CanadaBoy: | i have /vidoes/ mounted as 192.168.0.x... etc |
| [22:53:00] | CanadaBoy: | that file |
| [22:53:00] | JonK: | vidoes? |
| [22:53:00] | kormoc: | /etc/mtab? |
| [22:53:00] | CanadaBoy: | u have to edit a file to change the l/p nad ip |
| [22:54:00] | kormoc: | /etc/fstab? |
| [22:54:00] | CanadaBoy: | fstab it was |
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| [22:55:00] | dude12412: | ok, i cant find g++, where do i get it? |
| [22:56:00] | JonK: | many places |
| [22:56:00] | JonK: | an easy one is |
| [22:56:00] | JonK: | as root — apt-get install build-essential |
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| [22:57:00] | dude12412: | i dont even know what you just said... |
| [22:57:00] | JonK: | oh good god |
| [22:57:00] | dude12412: | i think i may need to just stick with mce2005 |
| [22:57:00] | dude12412: | i have that |
| [22:57:00] | dude12412: | its at least something i understand |
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| [22:58:00] | JonK: | do you understand what the root acount is? |
| [22:58:00] | dude12412: | yes |
| [22:58:00] | JonK: | as root, type the line i put there |
| [22:58:00] | dude12412: | i dont know how to use it or anything though |
| [22:59:00] | dude12412: | how do i get to a screen where i can type? |
| [22:59:00] | JonK: | do you know what a shell is |
| [22:59:00] | dude12412: | im in knoppmyth |
| [22:59:00] | xris: | dude12412: might be easier to follow the instructions for fc3, since the drivers are all available in binary form. |
| [22:59:00] | JonK: | i thought i'd be nice and help, but the hole just never hits bottom |
| [22:59:00] | JonK: | wait |
| [22:59:00] | JonK: | apt-get is a tool to install binaries |
| [23:00:00] | JonK: | is there something akin to a start button |
| [23:00:00] | xris: | JonK: yes, but I don't think that debian/knopmyth have binaries of the beta ivtv drivers. |
| [23:00:00] | ** CyberKnet agrees with xri ** | |
| [23:00:00] | CyberKnet: | s |
| [23:00:00] | CanadaBoy: | once i edit fstab how can i reload it besides reboot ? |
| [23:01:00] | JonK: | dude? |
| [23:01:00] | dude12412: | theres nothing i see like a start button.. |
| [23:01:00] | jedix: | what did you change? |
| [23:01:00] | CyberKnet: | CanadaBoy: what do you mean "reload it"? |
| [23:01:00] | JonK: | then how are you executing programs? |
| [23:01:00] | dude12412: | im not.. |
| [23:01:00] | CanadaBoy: | well make te changes i make take effect |
| [23:01:00] | jedix: | CanadaBoy: what did you change? |
| [23:01:00] | CyberKnet: | CanadaBoy: what changes did you make? |
| [23:02:00] | dude12412: | all i have done is installed knoppmyth and im lost now |
| [23:02:00] | CanadaBoy: | jedix: //location/of/a/path/onwindows/box |
| [23:02:00] | CyberKnet: | CanadaBoy: then just mount the mountpoint |
| [23:02:00] | CyberKnet: | mount <name> |
| [23:02:00] | CyberKnet: | or mount <mountpoint> |
| [23:02:00] | jedix: | or mount -a (for all..) |
| [23:02:00] | xris: | dude12412: what's on the screen now? |
| [23:02:00] | dude12412: | any other suggestions for versions of mythtv to install that would be easier to use or for you to explain? |
| [23:02:00] | CyberKnet: | or mount -a |
| [23:02:00] | JonK: | well, how did you download and unpackage the ivtv files |
| [23:02:00] | CyberKnet: | good call. |
| [23:02:00] | dude12412: | myth tv |
| [23:02:00] | JonK: | not really |
| [23:02:00] | dude12412: | i downloaded them on my windows |
| [23:03:00] | CyberKnet: | JonK: "good call" was to jedix |
| [23:03:00] | CanadaBoy: | jedix: thanks u rock |
| [23:03:00] | xris: | control-alt-f2 should drop you into console mode. |
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| [23:03:00] | dude12412: | yep |
| [23:03:00] | dude12412: | it did |
| [23:04:00] | CyberKnet: | later folks. JonK: leave me a message later when you find out what you need for it. |
| [23:04:00] | JonK: | sure |
| [23:04:00] | JonK: | ok... |
| [23:04:00] | JonK: | do you have the ivtv files on this computer? |
| [23:05:00] | dude12412: | they are on my windows computer not my mythtv one |
| [23:05:00] | dude12412: | can i burn them to a cd and put that in the drive? |
| [23:05:00] | dude12412: | and then load them from that? |
| [23:05:00] | xris: | dude12412: easier to just wget to the linux box. |
| [23:05:00] | JonK: | i'm not sure that you can... |
| [23:05:00] | xris: | install putty on your windows box. |
| [23:05:00] | xris: | ssh into the linux box |
| [23:05:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [23:06:00] | JonK: | and the hole just gets deeper |
| [23:06:00] | dude12412: | lol |
| [23:06:00] | dude12412: | its a black one |
| [23:06:00] | JonK: | dude do you know what ssh is? |
| [23:06:00] | dude12412: | no |
| [23:06:00] | JonK: | then why are you telling him "ok" |
| [23:06:00] | dude12412: | i was just gonna get putty |
| [23:06:00] | dude12412: | and then see wat it was |
| [23:06:00] | JonK: | good call |
| [23:07:00] | JonK: | (does knopmyth include sshserver by default?) |
| [23:07:00] | jedix: | I hope so |
| [23:07:00] | dude12412: | it has samba on it i believe...i dont know if that helps... |
| [23:08:00] | JonK: | maybe create a windows share, mount it with smbfs, and then just copy the files |
| [23:08:00] | JonK: | does any of that make sense |
| [23:09:00] | dude12412: | smbfs, that part doesnt |
| [23:10:00] | jedix: | does it have wget? |
| [23:10:00] | dude12412: | and then i dont know how to mount it with that |
| [23:10:00] | dude12412: | i dont know what wget is |
| [23:10:00] | dude12412: | windowsget? |
| [23:10:00] | dude12412: | and i dont know if it has it |
| [23:10:00] | JonK: | no wget |
| [23:10:00] | JonK: | if it has samba, it does |
| [23:10:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [23:10:00] | dude12412: | then it does |
| [23:11:00] | dude12412: | im gonna have to dissconnect from irc for a second to hook up my other machine to the network |
| [23:11:00] | dude12412: | brb |
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| [23:11:00] | jedix: | GNU Wget is a free utility for non-interactive download of files from |
| [23:11:00] | jedix: | the Web. |
| [23:11:00] | JonK: | that was just plain painful |
| [23:11:00] | jedix: | yes, and I don't see it getting better. |
| [23:12:00] | JonK: | oh no... he'll be back |
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| [23:14:00] | dude12412: | ok, i got it hooked up to the network |
| [23:14:00] | jedix: | and back again. |
| [23:14:00] | dude12412: | and i have putty installed |
| [23:14:00] | JonK: | do you know what telnet is? |
| [23:14:00] | dude12412: | i know what it is |
| [23:14:00] | dude12412: | i dont use it or have it |
| [23:15:00] | JonK: | ssh is a replacement for telnet that includes encryption/authentication |
| [23:15:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [23:15:00] | jedix: | and and ftp-like addition |
| [23:15:00] | dude12412: | thank you for your time, all of you |
| [23:15:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [23:15:00] | JonK: | do you now the iP address of the machine running linux? |
| [23:16:00] | dude12412: | i can find it in my router |
| [23:16:00] | jedix: | `/sbin/ifconfig` will tell you |
| [23:16:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [23:16:00] | dude12412: | thats easier |
| [23:17:00] | dude12412: | inet addr.:? |
| [23:17:00] | dude12412: | 127.0.0.1? |
| [23:17:00] | jedix: | yeah. should be 192.168.1.1 or something in that form |
| [23:17:00] | JonK: | this is pointless — didnt we get a console window open already on the linux box |
| [23:17:00] | dude12412: | hmm |
| [23:17:00] | dude12412: | ya, we did get a console open |
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| [23:18:00] | JonK: | i like the 127.0.0.1 suggestion |
| [23:18:00] | dude12412: | it didnt look right to me.. |
| [23:18:00] | dude12412: | but its all thats listed thats an ip address |
| [23:18:00] | JonK: | that address is the local loopback address — ignore that for now |
| [23:18:00] | dude12412: | ok |
| [23:19:00] | dude12412: | i just restarted it |
| [23:19:00] | JonK: | it being? |
| [23:19:00] | dude12412: | seeing if it gives me an ip |
| [23:19:00] | dude12412: | the 127 one is the only addr listed |
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| [23:20:00] | jedix: | how is your network setup? |
| [23:20:00] | dude12412: | it doesnt tell me any ip |
| [23:21:00] | JonK: | it being? |
| [23:21:00] | jedix: | ifconfig (I think) |
| [23:21:00] | dude12412: | do i need to do any set up on the linux machine for the network? |
| [23:21:00] | dude12412: | ifconfig |
| [23:21:00] | JonK: | now |
| [23:22:00] | JonK: | what machine are you typing into? |
| [23:22:00] | dude12412: | my windows |
| [23:22:00] | JonK: | into a c:\> ? |
| [23:22:00] | dude12412: | im lost, im typing the ifconfig in the linux |
| [23:22:00] | dude12412: | i have both sitting here next to me |
| [23:23:00] | dude12412: | im using the windows for mirc and looking up stuff online |
| [23:23:00] | jedix: | the linux box has a network cable running from it to your router? |
| [23:23:00] | dude12412: | yes |
| [23:23:00] | dude12412: | its a linksys |
| [23:23:00] | JonK: | someone in my offfice can't talk for a minute |
| [23:23:00] | jedix: | and it has dhcp, right? |
| [23:23:00] | dude12412: | and my windows is also plugged into the router |
| [23:23:00] | dude12412: | tes |
| [23:23:00] | dude12412: | yes* |
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| [23:24:00] | dude12412: | is there a command in the linux machine to grab an ip? |
| [23:24:00] | dude12412: | or does it automatically do that when its started up? |
| [23:24:00] | dude12412: | or can i assign an ip to it? |
| [23:25:00] | dude12412: | am i sitll connected? |
| [23:25:00] | dude12412 (~pyropunk7@242851hfc72.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit () | |
| [23:27:00] | Kronuz: | has anybody configured zsnes? |
| [23:27:00] | Kronuz: | can you send me the configuration file plz? |
| [23:27:00] | jedix: | okay, type `dhclient eth0` |
| [23:27:00] | jedix: | Kronuz: sorry, I don't use that. |
| [23:27:00] | Kronuz: | 'cause I can't make mine work (it's as if the keyboard isn't working okaye or somethnig) |
| [23:27:00] | jedix: | how is this myth tv? do you run your snes emulator on your myth tv box? |
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| [23:27:00] | jedix: | dude234234234: what happened? |
| [23:27:00] | dude234234234: | my computer doesnt stay connected when plugged in through the router |
| [23:27:00] | Kronuz: | jedix: I'm trying |
| [23:27:00] | dude234234234: | aim and irc and other programs dont stay connected |
| [23:27:00] | JonK: | ? |
| [23:27:00] | GeckoFiend: | jedix MythGame is a frontend for emultators including zsnes |
| [23:27:00] | JonK: | he'll be back |
| [23:28:00] | dude234234234: | so, wat do i do to get an ip? |
| [23:28:00] | jedix: | run `dhclient eth0` on the linux box |
| [23:28:00] | dude234234234: | hmm, would it work for me to hook up one of my ethernet cards to the internet and one to the router? |
| [23:29:00] | dude234234234: | then i could stay conected |
| [23:29:00] | JonK: | time out.... |
| [23:29:00] | dude234234234: | and transfer through the routher |
| [23:29:00] | dude234234234: | router8 |
| [23:29:00] | JonK: | do you have (1) a computer |
| [23:29:00] | dude234234234: | i have 2 on each of these computers |
| [23:29:00] | JonK: | (2) connected to a mouse, monitor and netowrk card |
| [23:29:00] | JonK: | why? |
| [23:30:00] | JonK: | why 2 cardS? |
| [23:30:00] | dude234234234: | cuz i used to have cat5 cables and not cat5e cables installed |
| [23:30:00] | dude234234234: | and my gigabit cards didnt work on them |
| [23:30:00] | dude234234234: | i have an ip on the linux now |
| [23:30:00] | jedix: | thank god. |
| [23:31:00] | JonK: | what is it? |
| [23:31:00] | jedix: | you should be able to use the ip address in putty to connect to it. |
| [23:31:00] | JonK: | but why bother, if he has a console window?!?! |
| [23:32:00] | dude234234234: | im logged in through putty |
| [23:32:00] | JonK: | are now, or have been all along? |
| [23:32:00] | dude234234234: | i am now |
| [23:32:00] | JonK: | ok |
| [23:32:00] | dude234234234: | i logged in as root |
| [23:32:00] | dude234234234: | that correct? |
| [23:32:00] | JonK: | good job |
| [23:32:00] | JonK: | type apt-get build-essential |
| [23:32:00] | JonK: | errr |
| [23:33:00] | JonK: | apt-get install build-essential |
| [23:33:00] | dude234234234: | ok |
| [23:33:00] | dude234234234: | what does taht do and do i need any files in any specific places? |
| [23:33:00] | dude234234234: | id di it |
| [23:33:00] | dude234234234: | it says done |
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| [23:33:00] | JonK: | type |
| [23:33:00] | JonK: | gcc |
| [23:34:00] | Midkniht: | hello, I have myth running on Debian Stable(Sarge) and I wondered about how to adjust the brightness in playback |
| [23:35:00] | jedix: | JonK: I bet hes connection timed out |
| [23:35:00] | jedix: | *his |
| [23:35:00] | dude234234234: | gcc says no input files |
| [23:35:00] | jedix: | damn. |
| [23:35:00] | JonK: | that's becuase you didn't give it any |
| [23:35:00] | dude234234234: | ok |
| [23:35:00] | dude234234234: | how do i do that? |
| [23:35:00] | JonK: | i just wanted to make sure your really had it |
| [23:36:00] | JonK: | you dont, not yet, |
| [23:36:00] | dude234234234: | ok |
| [23:36:00] | JonK: | gcc is the compiler, you run it from the command line, by telling it what files you want to compile |
| [23:36:00] | JonK: | now, let's get ivtv |
| [23:36:00] | JonK: | type |
| [23:36:00] | JonK: | wget http://www.ivtv.tv/releases/ivtv-0.3/ivtv-0.3.5f.tgz |
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| [23:37:00] | dude234234234: | i got errors |
| [23:37:00] | jedix: | JonK: I find it odd that his box didn't get an ip automagically.. |
| [23:37:00] | JonK: | i think it did, or it may have tried to get one on the card with no cable and timed out |
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| [23:37:00] | dude234234234: | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found |
| [23:37:00] | dude234234234: | 15:36:54 ERROR 404: Not Found. |
| [23:37:00] | JonK: | can't you just change the brightness on your tv/monitor |
| [23:37:00] | JonK: | check your typing.... make sure it's accurate |
| [23:37:00] | dude234234234: | i copy and pasted it |
| [23:38:00] | BlueCamel: | anyone here using the HD3000 card with OTA HDTV channels? |
| [23:38:00] | jedix: | http://www.ivtv.tv/releases/ivtv-0.3/ivtv-0.3.6g.tgz |
| [23:38:00] | jedix: | JonK: is g okay? |
| [23:38:00] | BlueCamel: | I'm thinking of investing in one but just saw that sample video.ts file on teh hd3000 site |
| [23:38:00] | BlueCamel: | the quality looks like shit :) |
| [23:38:00] | JonK: | i dont care, i took the one i used from the first line of a google search "wget ivtv" |
| [23:39:00] | dude234234234: | i got the same error |
| [23:39:00] | JonK: | I |
| [23:39:00] | JonK: | did you ever have a web browser running on the linux computer? |
| [23:39:00] | dude234234234: | no |
| [23:39:00] | dude234234234: | i didnt know how to use it |
| [23:39:00] | jedix: | type `ping www.google.com` |
| [23:39:00] | JonK: | you don't know how to use a web browser? |
| [23:40:00] | dude234234234: | not on the linux |
| [23:40:00] | dude234234234: | i never found out |
| [23:40:00] | dude234234234: | it pinged it just fine |
| [23:40:00] | dude234234234: | its still pinging it |
| [23:40:00] | Midkniht: | the video files are being recorded correctly, but the playback is off |
| [23:40:00] | dude234234234: | is there a way to stop? |
| [23:40:00] | jedix: | ctrl+c |
| [23:40:00] | dude234234234: | 31 transmitted and 31 received |
| [23:41:00] | jedix: | `wget http://www.ivtv.tv/releases/ivtv-0.3/ivtv-0.3.6g.tgz` |
| [23:41:00] | dude234234234: | so i guess im connected to the internet with the linux |
| [23:41:00] | Midkniht: | if i adjust the monitor brightness down it makes everything dark |
| [23:41:00] | dude234234234: | ok |
| [23:41:00] | dude234234234: | dling |
| [23:41:00] | dude234234234: | saved |
| [23:42:00] | jedix: | `tar zxvf ivtv-0.3.6g.tgz` |
| [23:42:00] | dude234234234: | kl |
| [23:42:00] | dude234234234: | ok* |
| [23:43:00] | jedix: | well, I was hoping that JonK'd be back |
| [23:43:00] | dude234234234: | lol |
| [23:43:00] | dude234234234: | well he said it would have a readme |
| [23:43:00] | JonK: | try http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforg . . . v-0.3.3k.tgz |
| [23:43:00] | jedix: | I actually don't have mythtv running anywhere. |
| [23:43:00] | JonK: | wget http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforg . . . v-0.3.3k.tgz |
| [23:43:00] | jedix: | he got it JonK |
| [23:43:00] | JonK: | ph |
| [23:43:00] | jedix: | and untared it |
| [23:43:00] | JonK: | oh |
| [23:43:00] | Midkniht: | is there any display settings from the mythfrontend? |
| [23:43:00] | JonK: | woo! |
| [23:43:00] | JonK: | progress!! |
| [23:43:00] | dude234234234: | lol |
| [23:43:00] | dude234234234: | yes |
| [23:43:00] | dude234234234: | finally |
| [23:43:00] | dude234234234: | hours to just untar something... |
| [23:44:00] | JonK: | i miss anything else? |
| [23:44:00] | jedix: | nope |
| [23:44:00] | JonK: | ok so we have the files untarred |
| [23:44:00] | dude234234234: | yep |
| [23:44:00] | JonK: | dude, do you know how to move around directories? |
| [23:44:00] | dude234234234: | no |
| [23:44:00] | JonK: | cd? |
| [23:44:00] | dude234234234: | ? |
| [23:45:00] | JonK: | cd [directory] <-- type this to change to a directory, right now you're probably in /root |
| [23:45:00] | dude234234234: | ok |
| [23:45:00] | Midkniht: | is it normal for 20 minutes to be 2 gigs? |
| [23:45:00] | JonK: | no |
| [23:45:00] | dude234234234: | wat directory do i want to go into? |
| [23:45:00] | jedix: | `cd ivtv-0.3.6g` |
| [23:45:00] | dude234234234: | ok |
| [23:45:00] | JonK: | now type cd .. |
| [23:45:00] | dude234234234: | im in there now |
| [23:45:00] | JonK: | see how that works? |
| [23:45:00] | dude234234234: | ya |
| [23:45:00] | dude234234234: | i just dont know what direct |
| [23:45:00] | JonK: | ok, do you know how to list files in a directory? |
| [23:45:00] | dude234234234: | orys i have |
| [23:46:00] | dude234234234: | no |
| [23:46:00] | JonK: | type "ls" |
| [23:46:00] | JonK: | to list names, |
| [23:46:00] | dude234234234: | ok |
| [23:46:00] | JonK: | and ls -l to list names and more data |
| [23:46:00] | jedix: | ls = list, cp = copy, mv = move, rm = remove |
| [23:46:00] | dude234234234: | doc, driver, patches, utils |
| [23:46:00] | JonK: | sweet |
| [23:46:00] | JonK: | are doc driver in blue? |
| [23:46:00] | dude234234234: | ya |
| [23:46:00] | dude234234234: | all of those are |
| [23:46:00] | dude234234234: | readme is in white |
| [23:46:00] | JonK: | that indiactes that these are all directores |
| [23:46:00] | dude234234234: | i didnt see that one at first |
| [23:46:00] | dude234234234: | ok |
| [23:46:00] | JonK: | the white means it's just a regular file |
| [23:46:00] | dude234234234: | and white is af ile? |
| [23:46:00] | dude234234234: | ok |
| [23:47:00] | JonK: | read the README file |
| [23:47:00] | dude234234234: | open readme? |
| [23:47:00] | JonK: | type cat README | less |
| [23:47:00] | dude234234234: | ok |
| [23:47:00] | Agrajag-: | no just do less README |
| [23:47:00] | JonK: | im not going to try to explain vi |
| [23:47:00] | JonK: | and note, it's case sensitive, |
| [23:47:00] | JonK: | you typed "open readme" |
| [23:48:00] | dude234234234: | ok |
| [23:48:00] | JonK: | even if the correct command was open, you still would not get what you needed |
| [23:48:00] | dude234234234: | well its open |
| [23:48:00] | dude234234234: | im reading it |
| [23:48:00] | JonK: | when you're done, go into the docs directory and read some of the files in there |
| [23:48:00] | dude234234234: | it has some commands after the info about what it does |
| [23:48:00] | JonK: | i think you'll find some more in utils as well |
| [23:48:00] | dude234234234: | ok |
| [23:48:00] | JonK: | read everything and try to build the ivtv drivers |
| [23:48:00] | dude234234234: | ok |
| [23:48:00] | jedix: | why isn't there a deb for ivtv? |
| [23:49:00] | dude234234234: | i cant get out of the readme |
| [23:49:00] | jedix: | press q |
| [23:49:00] | Midkniht: | can someone help me with my issues |
| [23:50:00] | dude234234234: | ok |
| [23:50:00] | jedix: | Midkniht: I've actually never seen mythtv running |
| [23:50:00] | BlueCamel: | jedix: you just love hanging out here? |
| [23:50:00] | jedix: | so I don't think I can help. |
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| [23:51:00] | Midkniht: | easy as pie to make it work with debian stable (Sarge) |
| [23:51:00] | JonK: | sorry midkniht, not sure how to help |
| [23:51:00] | jedix: | BlueCamel: I came here to get some info on hdtv tuners and them working with rogers cable.. but never got around to asking |
| [23:51:00] | dude234234234: | my suggestion would be overlay, but, i dont know anything about myth tv |
| [23:51:00] | JonK: | bluecamel, i've heard that the file on the hd3000 website is not representative |
| [23:52:00] | Midkniht: | is it normal for video files to be 4 gigs for one tv movie? |
| [23:52:00] | JonK: | how long? |
| [23:52:00] | JonK: | i get about 2.2 gb per hour |
| [23:52:00] | BlueCamel: | JonK: cool. |
| [23:52:00] | Midkniht: | hour and half |
| [23:52:00] | BlueCamel: | JonK: I posted to the myth-users list too, being the greedy infomration spam seeker I am |
| [23:52:00] | Midkniht: | what can i do to reduce the size? |
| [23:52:00] | JonK: | maybe a bit high, but not obviously borked |
| [23:52:00] | JonK: | reduce recording quality |
| [23:52:00] | GeckoFiend: | Midkniht that's entirely dependant on the bitrate you're encoding at |
| [23:52:00] | BlueCamel: | Midkniht: what are you using for playback? |
| [23:52:00] | BlueCamel: | know mplayer and xine both allow you to adjust picture quality during playback |
| [23:52:00] | Midkniht: | mythfrontend |
| [23:53:00] | Midkniht: | mplayer |
| [23:53:00] | Midkniht: | how? |
| [23:53:00] | BlueCamel: | well, i could type out all the keys here, but look at man mplayer and save me some typing :) |
| [23:53:00] | BlueCamel: | there is a section marked key bindings |
| [23:53:00] | BlueCamel: | and look for saturation, brightness, contrast etc |
| [23:54:00] | Midkniht: | ahhhh |
| [23:54:00] | Midkniht: | thats why i couldnt figure it out |
| [23:54:00] | BlueCamel: | from memory I think they're somewhere up on the 1 – 9 keys |
| [23:54:00] | jedix: | I think they get saved to a .mplayer file or soemthing. |
| [23:54:00] | Midkniht: | what about making the video files smaller? |
| [23:54:00] | BlueCamel: | if you're not using a full keyboard you'll have to map them with your remote |
| [23:54:00] | BlueCamel: | i would guess |
| [23:54:00] | BlueCamel: | smaller file size? |
| [23:55:00] | Midkniht: | yes |
| [23:55:00] | BlueCamel: | Hmm. |
| [23:55:00] | BlueCamel: | no clue on that one |
| [23:55:00] | BlueCamel: | if you get a larger hard drive all the files will seem smaller ;) |
| [23:55:00] | Midkniht: | i figured last night by switching to mpg4 they were smaller |
| [23:56:00] | Midkniht: | and how can i keep it from locking up my pc by stopping recording when a certain filespace is left |
| [23:57:00] | JonK: | mid, you can specifiy a minimum free space before recording |
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| [23:57:00] | JonK: | setting in the mythtv settings, or you can set things to auto-expire |
| [23:59:00] | dude234234234: | i figured out how to compile the drivers i think... |
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