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Tuesday, May 24th, 2005, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:00] mchou: bomba: bah.
[00:00:00] mchou: you can't pay me enough to have me watch MTV.
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[00:23:00] GeckoFiend: mchou chances are there's things you watch you couldn't pay someone else to watch...
[00:23:00] BMOC: what causes a show i tried to record to say RIP and not record?
[00:23:00] BMOC: it even lists them in my recordings, but they are not there
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[00:24:00] BMOC: man, it just didn't record anything at all. it says it recorded, but you can't hit enter on the recording, nor are any files there
[00:25:00] GeckoFiend: BMOC crappy catpure drivers/hardware
[00:25:00] kormoc: I had it happen a few times
[00:25:00] BMOC: well, i recorded something last night
[00:25:00] kormoc: I restarted the backend and it never happened again
[00:26:00] BMOC: Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/mnt/store//ringbuf1.nuv
[00:26:00] BMOC: err, i think i had deleted that:)
[00:27:00] GeckoFiend: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/mnt/store//ringbuf1.nuv is the live tv ring buffer and has nothign to do with recordings
[00:27:00] GeckoFiend: and you sure as hell shouldn;t be deletign files out from under myth :-p
[00:27:00] BMOC: well, i can't watch livetv now
[00:27:00] BMOC: hmm, since the upgrade
[00:27:00] BMOC: of some myth items
[00:28:00] mchou: GeckoFiend: I found an interesting stat though: If you watch CSI chances are your are more likely to be republican :)
[00:28:00] kormoc: BMOC, restart the backend...
[00:28:00] BMOC: i did, a few times
[00:29:00] xris: mchou: maybe that explains why I don't like that show.
[00:29:00] mchou: xris: hehe
[00:29:00] Beirdo: hah
[00:29:00] mchou: GeckoFiend: chances are too if you watch mtv you're more likely to be democrat :)
[00:29:00] bomba: hah
[00:30:00] Beirdo: I watch that show and am not republican, although I might be if I had the misfortune of being American
[00:30:00] mchou: I must be screwed up since I dont watch MTV but I do CSI and I'm democrat :)
[00:30:00] Beirdo: but you're in California. everyone's screwed up there
[00:30:00] BMOC: ah, i see
[00:31:00] BMOC: it's from upgrading the module for ivtv
[00:31:00] ** xris doesn't watch either, and is neither democrat nor republican. **
[00:31:00] Beirdo: pinko :)
[00:31:00] BMOC: xris: aren'tyou a socialist?
[00:31:00] mchou: xris: lol, that explains it :)
[00:31:00] ** SarahEmm watches CSI but not MYV.. **
[00:32:00] xris: socialist tendencies... but officially I'd be Green if I could actually put that on my registration card in WA.
[00:32:00] ** Beirdo considered voting for the communist party to really throw away the vote **
[00:32:00] BMOC: hmm, i wonder why i have to manually load the modules
[00:32:00] Beirdo: the conservatives weren't gonna win, so why not?
[00:32:00] ** kormoc watches CSI, doesn't watch MTV, Green politicaly, and geek by nature. **
[00:32:00] ** kormoc is in trouble. **
[00:33:00] Beirdo: hehe
[00:33:00] Beirdo: you'll be a pinko soon
[00:33:00] ** xris vouches for the "geek" part — kormoc seems to own every t-shirt thinkgeek sells. **
[00:33:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[00:33:00] Beirdo: hehe
[00:34:00] Beirdo: I don't think you can live in the PNW without becoming a tree-hugger
[00:34:00] mchou: Beirdo: nah, look at all them ex-loggers :)
[00:34:00] Beirdo: they don't count
[00:34:00] mchou: Beirdo: lol. They sure think they do :)
[00:35:00] kormoc: but I lived in the heart land of the amish and was raised Mennonite, and yet I was a tree hugger there too...
[00:35:00] mchou: kormoc: you from penn dutch country?
[00:35:00] Beirdo: well, a certain amount of tree-hugging is good
[00:36:00] Beirdo: some people take it a wee bit far though
[00:36:00] kormoc: yuppies
[00:36:00] ** kormoc was born and rased in Lancaster County, PA **
[00:36:00] Beirdo: greenpeace...
[00:37:00] BMOC: ooo, the tuner module is nto working
[00:37:00] Beirdo: let's save one part of the planet by being dumbasses and potentially causing disasters
[00:37:00] BMOC: guess i'll have to go back to ivtv 3.04x
[00:37:00] Beirdo: and even worse are the Sea Shepherd idiots
[00:37:00] mchou: Beirdo: hmm?? what are you referring to?
[00:37:00] BMOC: Beirdo: i thought you were a member of greenpeace?
[00:37:00] Beirdo: let's save a couple dolphins by trying to kill fishermen
[00:37:00] BMOC: you don't chase boats?:)
[00:38:00] xris: Beirdo is a conservative.
[00:38:00] BMOC: the DoD actually considers greenpeace a terrorist organization.
[00:38:00] xris: he just happens to be a smart one.
[00:38:00] Beirdo: mchou: the times they've blocked outflow pipes from factories to stop pollution... and almost blew up the plant.
[00:38:00] xris: BMOC: that's because many of them ARE.
[00:38:00] BMOC: Beirdo: what's up with the beating baby seals in canada
[00:38:00] BMOC: that's not even allowed here.
[00:39:00] Beirdo: that has nothing to do with anything
[00:39:00] ** kormoc raises a eyebrow **
[00:39:00] BMOC: it sure does
[00:39:00] Beirdo: once Americans stop wanting the fur coats made with their pelts, that will stop
[00:39:00] rjune: BMOC: and greenpeace isn't?
[00:39:00] kormoc: so some random people club seals in the west side of canada, so you'll blow up a factory in texas?
[00:39:00] kormoc: that'll get them to stop!
[00:39:00] Beirdo: and it's in the east of Canada
[00:39:00] Beirdo: :)
[00:39:00] BMOC: kormoc it's legal for people to beat baby seals to death in canada, it's not legal to blow up a factory in texas
[00:39:00] Beirdo: north-east to be precise
[00:39:00] rjune: Beirdo: American's aren't the only ones that want fur coats
[00:39:00] Beirdo: BMOC: it is NOT legal
[00:40:00] Beirdo: how about you know what you are talking about first
[00:40:00] BMOC: Beirdo: whaaaaaaaaaaat?
[00:40:00] BMOC: it sure is, at least in certain circumstances
[00:40:00] Beirdo: no it isn't
[00:40:00] Beirdo: that was outlawed decades ago
[00:40:00] BMOC: i think it may be seasonal, or occasional, or something, but i know the govt has sanctioned it
[00:40:00] rjune: not even defending yourself against those vicious baby seals?
[00:40:00] kormoc: there might be population controls put into place, but I'm damn sure they wouldn't involved a club.
[00:40:00] Beirdo: in the 80s, retard
[00:41:00] BMOC: kormoc they did a story here a little while ago showing recent video
[00:41:00] BMOC: and it was clubs
[00:41:00] BMOC: Stop the killing of seals in Canada Petition
[00:41:00] Beirdo: there are sanctioned hunts, but not with clubs, not that it matters anyways
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[00:41:00] BMOC: haha
[00:41:00] BMOC: google for canada beat baby seals club
[00:41:00] kormoc: so a LA news company knows more about canadan politics then the canadans?
[00:41:00] BMOC: s
[00:41:00] rjune: how did this become the topic?
[00:41:00] BMOC: kormoc LA?
[00:41:00] Beirdo: population control can be done by any means, what difference does it make in the end?
[00:42:00] mchou: haha
[00:42:00] Beirdo: it's not common practice, and it's not legal or condoned to beat seals to deat
[00:42:00] mchou: Beirdo: hmm, you sound like a nazi :)
[00:42:00] Beirdo: death...
[00:42:00] kormoc: BMOC, your host is LA, usually stands for Los Angelus or however it's speleld
[00:42:00] Beirdo: our cruelty towards animals laws are stricter than the US'
[00:42:00] BMOC: actually louisiana, but it's national news:)
[00:42:00] Beirdo: but if you are gonna shoot the seal anyways...
[00:43:00] Beirdo: in the end, what IS the difference?
[00:43:00] Beirdo: getting caught on film is the only difference
[00:43:00] BMOC: it's just more seen as inconsistent
[00:43:00] GeckoFiend: BMOC yes becuase if it's on the internet it MUST be true
[00:43:00] BMOC: GeckoFiend: it's called a joke
[00:43:00] ** GeckoFiend visits http://www.petsorfood.com and makes his order **
[00:43:00] BMOC: and every major news source has an internet site
[00:44:00] Beirdo: if baby seals weren't cute, nobody'd give a shit
[00:44:00] BMOC: haha
[00:44:00] rjune: Beirdo: inddeed we eat baby cows, and that's ok
[00:44:00] Beirdo: yeah
[00:44:00] kormoc: baby sheep too
[00:44:00] Beirdo: yup
[00:44:00] kormoc: Mmm... Lamb...
[00:44:00] kormoc: Baby Fish...
[00:45:00] kormoc: Mmm... Cavaior...
[00:45:00] Beirdo: in the end, there's no real difference.
[00:45:00] kormoc: Mmm... Roe...
[00:45:00] kormoc: Young Chickens, factory farmed.
[00:45:00] Beirdo: if you are against the slaughter of innocent animals, you'd damn well better be a vegan, or I have no respect for your silliness
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[00:45:00] kormoc: Mmm... So small of a cage the meat is so tender cause the damn thing can't sit down...
[00:46:00] Heph: I only eat guilty animals
[00:46:00] Beirdo: yeah
[00:46:00] Beirdo: that's worse than the one or two seals that get brained in a year
[00:47:00] GeckoFiend: kormoc heh I remember when I was a teenager i convinced one of my mothers cowrokers they grew bonless chickens in special cages so that folks could get bonless chicken breasts
[00:47:00] Beirdo: hahah
[00:47:00] ** kormoc laughs. **
[00:47:00] Beirdo: good one :)
[00:47:00] rjune: hahahahas
[00:47:00] Beirdo: people can be so gullible
[00:47:00] kormoc: I once convinced a girl that tofu was just specially grown boneless, fatless chicken
[00:47:00] GeckoFiend: heh
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[00:47:00] mchou: kormoc: did you sleep w/ her afterwards? :)
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[00:48:00] Beirdo: kormoc: you are a bastard :)
[00:48:00] kormoc: she beleived it till she went to buy some :)
[00:48:00] kormoc: mchou, that'd be a no :P
[00:48:00] kormoc: she ate tofu for like a month, went to the store, saw it said soy on it, and punched me the next day :P
[00:48:00] Beirdo: you shouldn't treat your sister like that
[00:48:00] kormoc: nah, my sis would have been smarter, sadly.
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[00:49:00] kormoc: this girl was the most blond of the blond
[00:49:00] Beirdo: heh
[00:49:00] rjune: kormoc: those are the most fun in bed though.
[00:49:00] Beirdo: heh
[00:49:00] rjune: go ahead rub it in, it's good for your skin
[00:49:00] mchou: kormoc: she wasnt too blonde cause she actually went thru the effort to prove you wrong :)
[00:49:00] Beirdo: I'm sure a redhead would disagree, rjune
[00:50:00] mchou: nah, reds are smarter than blondes, generally speaking :)
[00:50:00] Beirdo: I meant about most fun in bed. heh
[00:50:00] rjune: Beirdo: i take it you're redheaded?
[00:50:00] Beirdo: uh, no
[00:50:00] ** xris wonders how much effort it would be to extract the mediawiki parsing code. **
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[00:51:00] Beirdo: xris: likely more than it's worth
[00:51:00] xris: Beirdo: dunno. it has a lot of cool stuff in it.
[00:51:00] Beirdo: heh
[00:53:00] mchou: anyone here seen "Sin City?"
[00:53:00] xris: except for some silly stuff like a routine to remove html comments that uses substr and counting instead of regex.
[00:53:00] xris: mchou: I have
[00:53:00] mchou: xris: is it any good?
[00:53:00] mchou: worth $10?
[00:54:00] xris: it was entertaining. the cinematography was unique.
[00:58:00] GotD0t: mchou: where are oyu that movies cost $10?
[00:58:00] mchou: San Francisco Bay area.
[00:58:00] mchou: it's $9.50, but close enough to $10.
[00:59:00] GotD0t: oh that'll do it
[00:59:00] GotD0t: dont qualify for any special rates?
[00:59:00] GotD0t: not a student?
[00:59:00] mchou: only matinees.
[00:59:00] mchou: my student days are long over :)
[00:59:00] GotD0t: well if you can make your hair sort of greyish you can pose as a senior
[00:59:00] GotD0t: they cant ask for ID if you tell them you're a senior
[00:59:00] GotD0t: its like some weird law
[01:00:00] rjune: what?
[01:00:00] Beirdo: that's a pile of crap
[01:00:00] mchou: GotD0t: where do you live that movies dont cost $10??
[01:00:00] GotD0t: miami
[01:01:00] mchou: GotD0t: how much they cost in miami?
[01:01:00] GotD0t: an adult ticket is like 8 or 9 i think... and i get mine for 7 with a student id
[01:01:00] GotD0t: dont have a university ID somewhere? they usually dont have expirationd ates
[01:01:00] mchou: lol. $9 is close enough to $10
[01:01:00] GotD0t: i think they're 8
[01:01:00] kormoc: in pa it was $5.50 daytime, $7.50 night
[01:02:00] GotD0t: because i dont think they give like 2$ discount for students
[01:02:00] rjune: it's 8.50 around me
[01:02:00] rjune: 'cept @ the drive in, it's only 7 there
[01:02:00] GotD0t: well 8.50 is close to 9, which is close to 10 ;-)
[01:02:00] GotD0t: you have drive ins?
[01:02:00] GotD0t: haha
[01:02:00] mchou: Even in Protland it was $9.
[01:02:00] GotD0t: the last one around here got torn down ages ago
[01:02:00] mchou: Portland*
[01:03:00] rjune: yeah we have three drive ins within 75 miles of my house
[01:03:00] mchou: and in Portland you had to sit thru commercials, the bastards.
[01:03:00] mchou: not previews, COMMERCIALS.
[01:03:00] kormoc: that's how it is everywhere
[01:03:00] GotD0t: yea
[01:04:00] mchou: bullshit, not in bay area.
[01:04:00] mchou: we dont stand for that crap :)
[01:04:00] rjune: mchou: they don't play commercials before the movie there?
[01:04:00] mchou: nope.
[01:04:00] mchou: cuase ppl would go elsewhere.
[01:05:00] ** kormoc knows that Regal in pa, AMC in Seattle, Vsomethingsomething in Vancouver, Regal in Orlando, and some place in St. Lewis all play commercials before the previews. **
[01:05:00] rjune: it's only a matter of time then
[01:05:00] rjune: it'll happen, EVERYHWERE
[01:05:00] mchou: rjune: trust me, they tried b4.
[01:05:00] rjune: mchou: and if they dropped the prices would you go?
[01:05:00] mchou: and ppl never patronized the theatre again.
[01:05:00] kormoc: and when every theater does it? where do you go? home?
[01:05:00] rjune: $8 instead of $10?
[01:06:00] rjune: or even $6.50 – $7 ?
[01:06:00] mchou: kormoc: trust me, some pp prefer the home thetre experience. My neigbor has a tv thas 10 ft long.
[01:06:00] mchou: that's
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[01:06:00] rjune: I wanna get a projector.
[01:06:00] kormoc: sure, but how often does he goes out to the movies? so what money did they lose from him
[01:07:00] kormoc: we're talking the normal person who doesn't perfer the home experience
[01:07:00] rjune: we only go to the drive in anymore.
[01:07:00] mchou: kormoc: the point is ppl prefer to stay at home instead of going to movie theatre in Bay area :)
[01:07:00] kormoc: honestly, I'm not too proud to sit though some comericals if I'm that early to the movie.
[01:07:00] kormoc: mchou, so what does the theaters lose if they alianate people who don't go anyway?
[01:07:00] rjune: indeed
[01:08:00] mchou: kormoc: easy. If theatres werent such asses fewer pp would invest in home theatres :)
[01:08:00] kormoc: nah, if it's not comericals or what not
[01:08:00] kormoc: it's the punk assed kids
[01:08:00] kormoc: or something else
[01:08:00] xris: rjune: you still have drive-ins? they all went out of business in this area.
[01:09:00] rjune: that's it
[01:09:00] rjune: xris: got three nearby
[01:09:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[01:09:00] j-rod: xris, no, not all
[01:09:00] mchou: it only in the smaller towns that theatres have sucessfully gotten away with showing commercials.
[01:09:00] rjune: and we usually go to four or five shows in the summer
[01:09:00] j-rod: there's one in Auburn
[01:09:00] rjune: mchou: Uhm, no
[01:09:00] rjune: mchou: try chicago
[01:09:00] kormoc: Seattle's a small town? Orlando's a small town? St. Lewis is a small town?
[01:09:00] kormoc: Vancouver's a small town? :P
[01:09:00] mchou: rjune: chicago is by definition a mobster town. :)
[01:09:00] rjune: when I was out in LA the theatres had commercials
[01:10:00] rjune: mchou: Chicago is very progressive.
[01:10:00] rjune: they even let dead people vote
[01:10:00] mchou: kormoc: Vancouver is small compared to San Fran or NYC, yes.
[01:10:00] kormoc: ooh! I was in NY at a AMC and they showed comericals!
[01:10:00] ** kormoc saw Jersey Girl in NY **
[01:11:00] rjune: kormoc: LA theatres do it too
[01:11:00] rjune: aka it's just the Bay area apparently
[01:11:00] mchou: lol. Jersey Girl. How much did ben affleck pay you to see it?
[01:11:00] kormoc: hehe, it was actually a good movie
[01:11:00] kormoc: just much much more chasing amy then mall rats
[01:12:00] rjune: chasing amy was greate
[01:12:00] rjune: Dogma was better though
[01:12:00] mchou: I'm telling you, you as consumers have the power. Tell the theatre owners you wont patronize them if they show commercials.
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[01:12:00] rjune: mchou: commercials aren't why I don't patronize theatres
[01:12:00] rjune: I could care less if they do that
[01:13:00] mchou: I'd go to an arthouse cinema b4 going to Monster Movieplex.
[01:13:00] kormoc: show me all the commericals you want if I get there a hour early
[01:13:00] kormoc: it's my fault I'm there so early
[01:13:00] rjune: I'm more concerned about shitty movies.
[01:13:00] kormoc: it's better then dead screen time.
[01:13:00] BobJensen: I don't go to theatres because of the $5 Soda and the $7.50 popcorn
[01:13:00] rjune: and it being $60 to take my family there
[01:14:00] xris: I pay to go see good movies. I netflix others, and some really crappy ones I'll download online and watch if I'm REALLY bored.
[01:14:00] mchou: nobody syas you gotta have pop and soda.
[01:14:00] mchou: says*
[01:14:00] rjune: I go get the two fer
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[01:14:00] kormoc: nobody says you have to get there early and watch commericals that you don't want neather :)
[01:14:00] Beirdo: dumbass network
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[01:15:00] ** xris still carries his student ID to get discounts at the one or two theatres that do that, too. **
[01:15:00] rjune: heh
[01:15:00] xris: gotta love grad school — no expiration on the student id card.
[01:15:00] rjune: mine has an expiration date on it
[01:15:00] mchou: kormoc: I dunno what pipe you smoking. In portland you couldnt get in unless you got there early.
[01:15:00] kormoc: I've never had a issue with getting there within +-5 min or so and getting in
[01:15:00] kormoc: I once got in a showing a hour late
[01:16:00] mchou: not unless you want your eyeballs right up next to the screen.
[01:16:00] rjune: I don't have any problems with closing the door @ showtime
[01:16:00] kormoc: ahh, if you want a good seat, that's a different story, that's up to you to decide if you want to go to a popular movie and show late
[01:16:00] kormoc: rjune, I don't neather, as long as they wait till the previews are done.
[01:18:00] mchou: really, between showing commercials, the nasty ass popcorn smell, the punks who yap throughout the movie. why go to a movie theatre at all?
[01:18:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[01:18:00] rjune: mchou: it's the punks and the food mostly
[01:18:00] kormoc: tis your call, like I said, it's not just Commercials that drive people away
[01:18:00] rjune: most people don't go to theaters because of other people
[01:18:00] mchou: not for me. It would be the commercials.
[01:19:00] rjune: that's sucha minor annoyance though
[01:19:00] mchou: punks and popcorn dont bother me as much.
[01:19:00] ** xris just noticed the time.... **
[01:19:00] xris: later.
[01:19:00] BobJensen: I have been going to more movies, I host a website for a theatre here and i get 3 free tickets a month and free soda and popcorn there
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[01:19:00] mchou: rjune: minor???
[01:19:00] rjune: yeah
[01:19:00] kormoc: yeah
[01:19:00] rjune: the asswipes that can't shut the hell up are worse
[01:19:00] mchou: screw that. I want to watch commercials I have TV :)
[01:19:00] kormoc: do you not watch tv for commericals?
[01:19:00] kormoc: so like, what's the difference?
[01:19:00] mchou: kormoc: that's why we have myth :)
[01:20:00] rjune: indeed
[01:20:00] GotD0t: hehe
[01:20:00] mchou: kormoc: the diff is I dont pay to watch TV.
[01:20:00] kormoc: I don't strip out commericals.
[01:20:00] rjune: though I don't use it for that yet. ye old P3 533 can't encode and decode fast enough
[01:20:00] kormoc: you don't?
[01:20:00] kormoc: you just have over the air?
[01:20:00] rjune: mchou: broadcast only? wow that doesn't happen much
[01:20:00] kormoc: ya, tis quite odd
[01:20:00] mchou: kormoc: I pay $15/mo. for "basic limited"
[01:21:00] kormoc: ahh, so you do pay for tv
[01:21:00] mchou: and that's to the "cable company", not the TV networks.
[01:21:00] mchou: so there is a diff.
[01:21:00] kormoc: who pays the tv networks...
[01:22:00] mchou: kormoc: lol, guess you forgot about FCC "Must Carry"
[01:22:00] GotD0t: i pay like 80 for all the channels (all the premium movie channels and such) and my 3Mbit internet
[01:22:00] mchou: cause that's all "limited basic" gets me.
[01:22:00] kormoc: lucky GotD0t...
[01:23:00] GotD0t: yea... but that will no longer be
[01:23:00] GotD0t: comunistcast is taking over my cable
[01:23:00] mchou: kormoc: I think you are just foolish to put up with commercials at the movie theatre.
[01:23:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[01:23:00] rjune: kormoc: I'm with you
[01:23:00] mchou: there is absolutely no need for that.
[01:24:00] kormoc: I think you are over reacting
[01:24:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[01:24:00] mchou: I dont think I am.
[01:24:00] Beirdo: meh, I'm going back to my book :)
[01:24:00] kormoc: tis why I said I think, not you are :)
[01:24:00] ** kormoc waves **
[01:24:00] rjune: mchou: but insane prices and draconian rules about food are A OK, right?
[01:24:00] mchou: there are much more militant folks here in SF, I can assure you :)
[01:25:00] mchou: rjune: draconian rules about food??? What are you talking about?
[01:25:00] rjune: I thought SF was known for its large percentage of fashinable men
[01:25:00] rjune: mchou: none brought in
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[01:26:00] mchou: rjune: I dunno where you get that crap. Movie theatres by law cannot disallow outside food here.
[01:26:00] rjune: mchou: can and do here
[01:26:00] rjune: get a captive audience, and screw them over. concert venues are the same
[01:27:00] mchou: rjune: lol, that's what you get for being sheep.
[01:27:00] rjune: not me. I don't go to places like that
[01:27:00] mchou: Us SF militants dont stand for that crap :)
[01:27:00] mchou: rjune: yet you seem to say commercials at cinema dont bother you, lol :)
[01:28:00] GotD0t: i dont mind the commercials at movie theaters... because im always with friends
[01:28:00] rjune: mchou: they don't.
[01:28:00] GotD0t: and we just like talk or whatever
[01:28:00] rjune: mchou: I have been to theatres. I stopped going, because of all the associated BS
[01:29:00] rjune: so now we go to the drive in
[01:29:00] mchou: rjune: do you have a home theatre setup?
[01:29:00] rjune: food is reasonable.
[01:29:00] rjune: nope
[01:29:00] GotD0t: drive in... thats such a foreign concept to me
[01:29:00] mchou: rjune: that just proves my point. cinema lost you as a customer.
[01:30:00] BobJensen: there have not been drive-ins here in atleast 10 years
[01:30:00] BobJensen: maybe 15
[01:30:00] rjune: mchou: but not because of commercials
[01:30:00] mchou: rjune: now you have to frequent the drive-in freak show.
[01:30:00] mchou: bad PQ, audio, all that crap :)
[01:31:00] rjune: PQ is good, they all have stereo audio, no it's not the facy 5.1 stuff but it's still good
[01:31:00] rjune: it's comfortable. relaxed.
[01:31:00] rjune: don't have to worry about asshats so much
[01:32:00] BobJensen: rjune: are your drive-ins open year round?
[01:33:00] rjune: nope,
[01:33:00] BobJensen: Drive-ins here were always closed about 6 or more months out of the year
[01:34:00] rjune: same here, I'm by chicago
[01:34:00] BobJensen: Not many people want to watch movies in the snow and -20 Def F weather
[01:34:00] rjune: they do ok when they're open though
[01:34:00] rjune: heh, nope. :-)
[01:34:00] BobJensen: I am in St. Cloud MN
[01:35:00] mchou: BobJensen: enjoy the ice-fishing there? :)
[01:35:00] mchou: hehe
[01:35:00] BobJensen: mchou: have never been, driving on a frozen lake is not my idea of logical
[01:36:00] mchou: haha
[01:37:00] BobJensen: I used to fish, my ex-wife's family made sure I hated it
[01:37:00] BobJensen: Now I just don't have the time
[01:37:00] rjune: why/how?
[01:37:00] mchou: rjune: and I dont know what you're talking about. My backend is a P2 450 and has enough oomph to flag commercials :)
[01:38:00] rjune: mchou: separate front end?
[01:38:00] mchou: rjune: yup.
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[01:38:00] rjune: 'k, I have a P3 533 doing both
[01:38:00] rjune: and it's not happy
[01:38:00] rjune: and do you have a good tv tuner card?
[01:39:00] mchou: 2x150's
[01:39:00] rjune: I got a cheap avermedia card
[01:39:00] mchou: and 2xm179's
[01:39:00] rjune: most of the work is done by the proc
[01:39:00] mchou: rjune: well, that's different.
[01:39:00] mchou: I use strictly HW encode.
[01:39:00] rjune: i didn't know any better when I got it
[01:40:00] rjune: and the tuner card was pretty much free. 3 hours worth of work one night
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[01:48:00] Randall64: Oh man.
[01:49:00] BobJensen: Yeah woman!
[01:49:00] Randall64: ;)
[01:49:00] BobJensen: Sorry, been a long day
[01:49:00] Randall64: It sucks that I'm going to get black boxes on all sides of my new lcd.
[01:49:00] Randall64: It's about time for some hdtv.
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[01:53:00] Naggi: #planeshift
[01:53:00] libolt: Hi, I'm having some issues with mythtv 0.18.1 on ubuntu for amd64 which was installed with my own custom debian packages. I've got two PVR-150 capture cards and the main problem is that most of the time when I either play recordings or watch livetv the screen is black, however if I play the recorded program files with mplayer they play fine, same goes for the ringbuf.nuv files
[01:54:00] libolt: I'm using an nvidia geforce 5200 for output, using the nvidia drivers and Xorg 6.8.2
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[02:00:00] opello: i was wondering if anyone has luck with the gentoo init script for mythbackend?
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[02:01:00] moonpie: I don't use it
[02:02:00] opello: i see there's a new one for 0.18.1-r1, but i had to add this to the stop function to make it work for me:
[02:02:00] moonpie: prolly coz I don't seem to have it
[02:02:00] opello: [ "x$(ps -p `cat /var/run/mythbackend.pid` | grep mythbackend | wc -l)" == "x0" ] && rm /var/run/mythbackend.pid
[02:02:00] opello: it wasn't cleaning the pid file before
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[02:33:00] Ralph: has anyone ever tried to capture a vhs video with a hauppauge card in linux?
[02:36:00] rjune: Ralph: prolly want to set channel to 4
[02:36:00] Ralph: just to clarify, I'm not hooked up to a tv at all, just recording and watching through monitor
[02:37:00] Ralph: I directly hooked the vcr to the pvr card with composite video/audio cables
[02:37:00] Ralph: I can get video but no sound
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[02:37:00] Ralph: when I used a coax to the tuner input, I get audio but the video of what ever the last channel in myth was
[02:38:00] rjune: Ralph: use coax
[02:38:00] rjune: Ralph: then set the channel to 4
[02:38:00] rjune: then try to record
[02:38:00] Ralph: on the vcr?
[02:38:00] rjune: no, in myth
[02:39:00] rjune: the vcr should let you specify 3 or 4 as output
[02:39:00] Ralph: yes I tried both on the vcr but haven't messed with myth
[02:40:00] Ralph: is that in mythtv-setup on the backend or utilities/setup on the frontend
[02:41:00] Cardoe: opello: ?
[02:41:00] rjune: Ralph: that's in the channel selection
[02:41:00] Cardoe: What's the issue now?
[02:42:00] opello: Cardoe: nah, new init script seems to work, old ones did not
[02:44:00] Ralph: should I shutdown before making the cable switch on the computer?
[02:44:00] rjune: Ralph: I don't know if it'll matter
[02:44:00] Ralph: I just don't want to fry any pc components
[02:44:00] rjune: ok
[02:52:00] Cardoe: opello: ok. that's why there's a new one
[02:52:00] Cardoe: ;)
[02:52:00] opello: heh :)
[02:52:00] Cardoe: new one uses start-stop-daemon
[02:52:00] Cardoe: rather then MythTV to make the pid
[02:53:00] opello: probably for the best
[02:53:00] Cardoe: Anyone have a gmail account? They notice their invites are gone?
[02:53:00] opello: mine were there this afternoon
[02:53:00] opello: still there
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[03:00:00] Beirdo: I have 50 invites
[03:02:00] Beirdo: kaBOOOM!
[03:02:00] Beirdo: stupid fireworks
[03:02:00] Beirdo: hehe
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