| Thursday, May 12th, 2005, 00:00 UTC |
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o_cee: |
anyone tried lxnays gentoo livecd? need to grow an ext3 with parted |
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mchou: |
slyboots: it's locked cause you have bad permissions. |
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slyboots: |
It if was bad permissions, why does xawtv work? |
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slyboots: |
and tvtool, and half a dozzen other programs |
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xris: |
slyboots: um, maybe because xawtv is taking control of the card? |
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mchou: |
cause you run those proggies as yourself. mythbackend might not be running as yourself. |
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slyboots: |
mythbackend is |
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xris: |
slyboots: do you have more channels imported into myth? (aka mythfilldatabase) |
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mchou: |
only way to tell is if it works as root, then you got perm problemss |
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slyboots: |
Yes, The listings show up corerctly |
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slyboots: |
You just cant change the channel from inside myth |
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Shibz: |
will my PVR500 work with the newest knoppmyth or will I have to get the latest ivtv drivers? |
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mchou: |
lol, what does the frontend and BE say when you try to change channels? |
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slyboots: |
Nothing, Just wont change the channel |
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j-rod: |
Shibz, I'd suggest the latest ivtv drivers |
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xris: |
slyboots: `mythfrontend -v all` |
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mchou: |
slyboots: only real way to diagnose the problem..... |
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slyboots: |
You type in the number, it waits for a second or so, then does nothing |
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xris: |
slyboots: try hitting enter after typing the number |
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slyboots: |
Tried that |
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mchou: |
slyboots: whe dont care what the GUI does. We want the messages. |
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slyboots: |
I even ordred myth to try and tape a show that is on right now |
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slyboots: |
It just started recording the pre-set channel that xawtv was last on |
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mchou: |
we* |
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xris: |
slyboots: frequency table set correctly? (us-cable vs us-bcast vs something-non-us?) |
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slyboots: |
Yup |
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j-rod: |
or some other setting in the card setup that shouldn't be there... |
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mchou: |
slyboots: why dont you past output of mythfrontend. |
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mchou: |
paste* |
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slyboots: |
Because its about 20 pages long |
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mchou: |
in pastebin. |
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slyboots: |
"waiting for space on soundcard.." |
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mchou: |
lol, 20 pp. long means something is screwed up. |
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j-rod: |
try enabling extra audio buffering |
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j-rod: |
if it isn't already |
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j-rod: |
and yeah, something is wonky |
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xris: |
j-rod: I get that at work, too. |
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slyboots: |
Its just the smae message over and over |
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j-rod: |
hm... |
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slyboots: |
All to do with the soundcard |
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slyboots: |
Is there a way to disable sound totaly? |
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slyboots: |
(Just to remove that issue for the moment) |
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mchou: |
slyboots: paste the unique commands in pastebin 'sort mesg.txt | uniq' |
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slyboots: |
Its now producing the errror message : |
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slyboots: |
2005-05–12 00:07:57.420 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "A0" in the "setup" Channel Editor. |
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mchou: |
That's it?? |
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slyboots: |
.. Several times, each message the "A0" section changes |
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mchou: |
lol, you are from UK. No wonder you are scred up :) |
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mchou: |
screwed* |
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slyboots: |
Wtf is that ment to mean |
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mchou: |
it means "take it easy" |
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gr8nash: |
LOL |
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mchou: |
That message is probably saying channel A0 is not set up properly in myth. |
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slyboots: |
There is no Channel A0, thats just static |
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slyboots: |
And it produces that message for every possabel channel on the card, Im rerunning mythtv-setup, but I dont see how it will help |
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mchou: |
heh. |
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mchou: |
all you Europeans have funky channel assignments. |
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mchou: |
need to read the European myth HOWTO :) |
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slyboots: |
What european myth howto? |
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mchou: |
slyboots: eurpeans need to use the channel editor in myth, iirc. |
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slyboots: |
I would if it made any sence |
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slyboots: |
There is no area to add a channel reference |
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mchou: |
huh???? |
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j-rod: |
xris, crap, now they want to do conditional rewriting, sending it to a different location if $1 is empty. :) |
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j-rod: |
shoulda just kept quiet. |
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mchou: |
j-rod: what are you referring to? |
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j-rod: |
some mod_rewrite stuff to redirect urls and parameters. :) |
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mchou: |
ahh.... |
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j-rod: |
xris is my web programming manual |
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slyboots: |
Christ Im getting too old for this crap |
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slyboots: |
Hold on, mythfilldatabase last messsage is "Unknown socket" (After it connects to the mythbackend |
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slyboots: |
that supposed to happen? |
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slyboots: |
Bless the good god its working!! |
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slyboots: |
Ish, the listings are wrong.. |
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xris: |
j-rod: that's not too hard. |
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xris: |
anyone here ever mess with winmyth? |
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ZMorek: |
when I boot, mythfrontend doesn't detect the backend as running, so I exited, and checked the status of it, it says "mythbackend dead but pid file exists" |
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Esotericisms: |
anyone have experience with setting up a video card for a tv without having a true s-video or rca out? |
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tuxristo: |
xris, just googled for it, god it's ugly eh |
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xris: |
tuxristo: yes. but it supposedly works. I can't get it to work, though. keep getting "unknown codec" errors. |
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j-rod: |
xris, yeah, I think I have a functional rule pairing |
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** slyboots is tempted to write his own Howto for myth ** |
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slyboots: |
For us poor Euro bastards |
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kormoc: |
go for it |
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** j-rod was tempted, and look at all the trouble it got him into... ** |
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xris: |
slyboots: jarod usually happily takes additions to his guide |
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j-rod: |
though he hasn't had much time to work in anything new lately |
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Esotericisms: |
anyone have experience with setting up a video card for a tv without having a true s-video or rca out? ...? |
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** slyboots nods "I just need to get Audio working, not sure quiet whats going wrong there just yet ** |
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xris: |
irc needs an in-sentence /me equivalent. |
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slyboots: |
But just getting myth to work was a hell of a lot more work than it realy should have been |
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j-rod: |
xris, I'm chaining off the HTTP_HOST rule and then looking for a null QUERY_STRING, and then forwarding to one url, then the next rule set is the original one |
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slyboots: |
Mostly down to just daft mistakes |
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tuxristo: |
xris, what codec did you install? |
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j-rod: |
sound about right? |
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xris: |
tuxristo: dsmyth |
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j-rod: |
er, wait, can I chain RewriteCond ?... (thinking outloud) |
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xris: |
but I'm wondering if maybe the machine is missing the mpeg2 codec |
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slyboots: |
And thats the channels listed right :) |
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** j-rod goes to read some more exciting info about mod_rewrite ** |
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slyboots: |
Now for the audio.. Hmm. |
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** slyboots fetches a stick ** |
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slyboots_: |
Weird thing is, even if I plug the headphones into the back of the TV card, I still get no audio |
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j-rod: |
oh, duh, okay, chain is for RewriteRule, just put another Cond, and they default to AND |
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Shibz: |
does anyone know how to get the PVR 500 tuner to work on knoppmyth R5A15? |
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Shibz: |
I found a guide for R5A12, but I can't get it to work with R5A15 |
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xris: |
Shibz: you have to compile your own driver |
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maddhaggis: |
Hello all |
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Shibz: |
I compiled the newest ivtv driver |
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Shibz: |
but it still won't work |
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xris: |
Shibz: doesn't work how? |
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xris: |
crashes? |
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xris: |
does "cat /dev/video0 > foo.mpg" work? |
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slyboots_: |
This lack of sound is disturbing |
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kormoc: |
it's lord slyvader! run! run! |
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slyboots_: |
? |
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slyboots_: |
I dont get it |
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kormoc: |
in starwars, vader says, I find your lack of faith distrubing |
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j-rod: |
heh, I do |
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kormoc: |
you reminded me of it :P |
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slyboots_: |
Ahh, I see |
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Shibz: |
what should cat /dev/video0 > foo.mpg do? |
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** slyboots_ uses Force choke on kormoc ** |
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** kormoc dies. ** |
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** slyboots_ looks unbelivably evil ** |
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Beirdo: |
and kormoc proves again... geeks are strange :) |
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slyboots_: |
lol |
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j-rod: |
Shibz, you likely need to yank the tveeprom, tuner and msp3400 modules from the main kernel tree so the ivtv-provided ones get used instead |
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** kormoc laughs ** |
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Beirdo: |
it's so fun being a geek |
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kormoc: |
indeed |
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Shibz: |
I did move the msp3400 and tuner modules |
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jemarcks: |
Anybody have a working mythtvburn or some such script? |
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Shibz: |
but not the tveeprom |
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j-rod: |
Syth is mostly very nice looking... |
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Shibz: |
all I get is static when I try to watch tv |
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j-rod: |
get tveeprom out of there too, if you have an older one running, it probably didn't pick up and set the right tuner |
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maddhaggis: |
Got kind of a wierd one here for you guys; I have a HD3000 running DVB on FC3 which finaly works...yay...All my local HD channels come in great with the exception of the 3 digital channels from PBS 15_2, 15_3, and 15_4. the audio comes in all chirpy. All other HD and Digital channels are fine though....Any thoughts? |
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slyboots_: |
Well, Im tired |
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Shibz: |
http://mleh.net/shibz/output.txt |
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jemarcks: |
hey, mchou |
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slyboots_: |
I think I'll call it a day, Im pretty fucking shattered to be honest |
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Shibz: |
that is what I get when I do dmesg|grep ivtv |
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slyboots_: |
thans again for all your help again :D |
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slyboots_: |
Cheers all |
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slyboots_: |
Later |
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Shibz: |
argh I am getting really annoyed at this |
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Shibz: |
I have been getting nothing but problems |
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Shibz: |
can someone please help me get my pvr500 to work? |
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Esotericisms: |
ok i am install knoppmyth .. enoug of this bullsh*t |
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TheAsp: |
boo |
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maddhaggis: |
FC3 works great :) |
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Shibz: |
well, I am going to downgrade to R5A12 because I found a guide for it |
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Agrajag-: |
as does debian |
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ZMorek: |
in my experience knoppmyth is harder to deal with than fc3 |
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Shibz: |
hmmm, fc3? |
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Shibz: |
i will have to try that |
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ZMorek: |
that might just be my hardware tho |
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maddhaggis: |
I'll second that |
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Esotericisms: |
Shibz, is there much difference between 15 and 12? |
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Shibz: |
I have no idea |
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ZMorek: |
I used the wilsonet guide... the only problems I've come across were linux-newbie related |
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Shibz: |
I just found a guide telling me exactly how to set up my tuner on 12, but not on 15 |
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mchou: |
maddhaggis: where do you live? |
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Esotericisms: |
what card do you have? |
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Shibz: |
pvr 500 |
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maddhaggis: |
mchou: Virginia |
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jemarcks: |
mchou, howdy |
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maddhaggis: |
why? |
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mchou: |
maddhaggis: I bet it's acually a problem with the PBS station streams, not the HW itself. |
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mchou: |
hi jemarcks |
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j-rod: |
Shibz, mleh.net: cannot locate server |
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jemarcks: |
mchou, do you have a working process to burn .nuv files to DVD? |
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mchou: |
maddhaggis: do you have a HDTV set thant you can verify this independently? |
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j-rod: |
Host mleh.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
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maddhaggis: |
hmmm. but my hd sat reciever pulls them in just fine. |
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mchou: |
jemarcks: nope. |
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Shibz: |
hmmm, try http://216.66.12.100/~shibz/shibz/output.txt |
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mchou: |
maddhaggis: those are differnt feeds. |
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mchou: |
different* |
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jemarcks: |
mchou, same here... im trying to get the tools together. |
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mchou: |
jemarcks: I've never archived anything on TV to DVD. |
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j-rod: |
Shibz, you're not using the ivtv-provided tuner module, and I see no tveeprom loading |
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maddhaggis: |
nope my sat reciever has a built in OFF Air HD tuner. |
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mchou: |
jemarcks: I just store everything on HDD. |
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j-rod: |
Shibz, though I do see it picking out the right tuner type |
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maddhaggis: |
I don't use the sat part... I don't even own a dish. |
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j-rod: |
but with the v4l tuner module you're loading, its incorrectly picking up the radio tuner at 0060 as the tv tuner, which is why you get static |
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Shibz: |
aah |
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j-rod: |
add an 'options tuner add=0x61' to your module params to fix that |
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j-rod: |
er, 'options tuner addr=0x61' |
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mchou: |
maddhaggis: hmm, then that's a mystery..... |
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j-rod: |
I've got both a D292 and D492 PVR-500 working just fine |
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mchou: |
j-rod: what does that option do? |
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maddhaggis: |
mchou: do you think I could have a PIDS conflict? |
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mchou: |
PIDS?? what's that? |
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DarkBeer_: |
so fc3 over knoppmyth? I haven't been able to get my pvr350 running reliably in knopp. any reason to believe it will be better in fc3? keep running into issues where livetv locks up |
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j-rod: |
tells the tuner module that the tuners are at i2c address 0x61 |
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j-rod: |
the radio tuner on the 500 is on the first i2c bus at 0x60, and gets falsely grabbed as the tv tuner |
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maddhaggis: |
also channel 15_2 seems to come in slower.... like a 45 record played at 33 speed. |
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maddhaggis: |
mchou: check out http://www.xmission.com/~pchdtv/forum/viewtopic.php?t=688 |
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mchou: |
j-rod: hmm, interesting. what's the i2c address for the m179 tuner? |
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j-rod: |
I don't recall, its either 0x61 or 0x60... |
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j-rod: |
btw, I tried putting my m179 in my dev box w/a 500, and the thing won't even boot... :( |
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j-rod: |
So I have to juggle some hardware again to even be able to play with it. |
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j-rod: |
:S |
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mchou: |
j-rod: heh :) |
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j-rod: |
not even POST |
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mchou: |
hmm??? |
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j-rod: |
(dev box is an older dual PIII board) |
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mchou: |
nah, sounds like an unseated card...... |
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j-rod: |
oh, it was seated |
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Shibz: |
k, i added that addr thing, hope it works |
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j-rod: |
I moved it around from slot to slot, pulled cards one by one to see if it just didn't like the other cards with it, etc |
| [01:16:00] |
maddhaggis: |
j-rod: I had the same problem. |
| [01:16:00] |
j-rod: |
the notches on the m179 are different than the 500, I forget what the hell they all mean |
| [01:17:00] |
mchou: |
weird. I put my m170 w/150, it boots ok. |
| [01:17:00] |
j-rod: |
probably like a 3.3v pci card, and the board will only take 5v, or somethin' |
| [01:17:00] |
maddhaggis: |
j-rod: what mobo are you using? |
| [01:17:00] |
j-rod: |
an old Asus P2B-DS |
| [01:17:00] |
maddhaggis: |
I use a Asus SK8V. |
| [01:17:00] |
maddhaggis: |
Same issue |
| [01:18:00] |
Shibz: |
nope, that addr line still gives static |
| [01:18:00] |
j-rod: |
Shibz, updated log dump? |
| [01:18:00] |
Shibz: |
1 sec |
| [01:19:00] |
maddhaggis: |
I called hauppague, they said it was a hardware latency problem and that I would have to wait for Asus to release a new bios to fix it. |
| [01:19:00] |
mchou: |
lol!! |
| [01:19:00] |
maddhaggis: |
They are working on it though |
| [01:19:00] |
mchou: |
maddhaggis: who, asus or hauppauge? |
| [01:19:00] |
Shibz: |
ok, its updated |
| [01:20:00] |
maddhaggis: |
both, jointly |
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