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Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:00] ethics: hmm dead link...gimme a few i refind them
[00:00:00] awb4422: i think its rarewaves.org
[00:01:00] awb4422: but that is dead too
[00:01:00] awb4422: i see some google hits about lame encode and rarewaves
[00:02:00] ethics: hmm ok don't know where it's gone 8/ if i find them ill paste here ...im going a looking for it now
[00:05:00] awb4422: this is the situation that almost makes me want to go to gentoo :/
[00:05:00] ** kormoc <3s gentoo **
[00:05:00] ethics: what are you using amt
[00:05:00] ethics: atm
[00:06:00] awb4422: ubuntu on this machine, trying out kubuntu on my laptop
[00:06:00] ethics: ahh....im debian sarge....
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[00:09:00] awb4422: i found something about libavcodec
[00:09:00] awb4422: but i dont have that package in the repos im using
[00:09:00] ethics: unbutu is xorg yah?
[00:09:00] awb4422: ya
[00:09:00] awb4422: oh wait libavcodec-dev
[00:10:00] ethics: i dont know if Sid has one for you which is useable....
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[00:14:00] awb4422: ethics – what packages are you looking at getting?
[00:14:00] awb4422: let me know, and i will search for them in ubuntu's package index
[00:18:00] ethics: i was seeing if i can find rarewaves again but i cant so far......i had to install xvid from sources a while back for something so it's not a deb file 8(
[00:21:00] xris: ethics: I think most/all recent distros are xorg, given that XFree is no longer gpl compatible
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[00:25:00] bobc: anyone know why gam_server would suddenly start chew up a lot of cpu whenever watching recorded or live tv on a remote frontend? no problem with videos though.
[00:26:00] bobc: running kubuntu 5.0.4
[00:26:00] levon: yeah, gam_server loves to chew...
[00:27:00] levon: maybe it monitors files, and since livetv causes the file date to change continously, it may be updating things...
[00:28:00] bobc: it's taking 20–50% of my cpu while watching videos on my duron 650 and causes frequent pauses from hitting 100% total with the mythfrontend.
[00:28:00] bobc: recorded files wouldn't change the date though do they?
[00:29:00] levon: hm, not to my knowledge. sure the recording is finished?
[00:29:00] bobc: oh yeah, happens with any recording
[00:29:00] levon: hm, dunno then. was just a wild guess anyway ;)
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[00:30:00] bobc: I wondered about that too...
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[00:34:00] wheezle: hey all
[00:35:00] wheezle: just installed .18 on my frontend machine and find that the color is way off during playback – any ideas?
[00:36:00] wheezle: I don't have XV controls enabled (and it doesn't matter if I do enable them), and the color in the recordings themselves is just fine (as shown by another frontend)
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[00:42:00] black_Nightmare: hey there
[00:45:00] wheezle: hey... it's pretty dead in here
[00:45:00] Esotericisms: alright got my x server working
[00:45:00] black_Nightmare: wheezle seem like it
[00:46:00] black_Nightmare: anyhow I got a stupid long shot question ----
[00:46:00] black_Nightmare: mythtv for ppc (neverminding the bootup trick needed for some performas)? :-p
[00:47:00] black_Nightmare: especially that one of the performa family might not have pci yet but they could be equipped with apple mpeg card, apple video-in slot, and even provision to mirrored tv/out connector
[00:47:00] black_Nightmare: again..it seem like a stupid long shot but then....still
[00:48:00] Esotericisms: now that I have compiled and done a make install of myth ... where is the mc.sql file?
[00:48:00] ethics: xris: yeah xorg is replacing xfree but sarge is still xfree
[00:49:00] ethics: xris: Sid is too unstable atm to go to so im xfree for a few months or so
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[00:52:00] Squidy: hi... i have a pixelview capture card, with chipset bt878 pv-m4900, im trying to use mythtv to see tv but dont working
[00:52:00] xris: Squidy: need more info
[00:53:00] Esotericisms: I have built in audio no my motherboard how do I get it to work? I can't do amixer from the command line
[00:53:00] Esotericisms: I don't have amixer ... I am on debian
[00:54:00] fryfrog: Esotericisms: figure out which alsa driver it uses and configure it
[00:54:00] Squidy: i think that the tuner isnt correctly.. my card is a Pixelview PlayTV MPEG2 PV-M4900 FM.RC with Tvision TVF5533MF... but dont working..
[00:55:00] ethics: Esotericisms, apt-get install alsaconf alsamixer
[00:55:00] wheezle: I see that a while back (.12) there was a problem during playback where all the colors (including the OSD) were shifted... is anyone familiar with the problem or (better) the solution to it?
[00:56:00] sunilonln: hey, i am setting up lvm with http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.3 , but when trying to mount it is saying mount point does not exist
[00:56:00] sunilonln: do i need to create /var/music before mounting?
[00:56:00] wheezle: sunilonln: yes, create it
[00:56:00] Squidy: can somebody help me?
[00:56:00] Esotericisms: there is no alsamixer ethics
[00:57:00] xris: Squidy: the driver only cares about the chipset. but you need to give more info. which kernel, which distro, does dmesg show your card being detected, etc?
[00:57:00] clintar: sunilonln: welcome to linux
[00:57:00] ethics: hmm sec ill see what im using
[00:57:00] Esotericisms: ok
[00:57:00] sunilonln: clintar: thanks :)
[00:57:00] ethics: apt-get install alsamixergui
[00:57:00] clintar: gui?
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[00:58:00] clintar: shouldn't there be some kind of alsa-tools or alsa-utils that has alsamixer?
[00:58:00] sunilonln: wheezle: if i wanted the folders at /video and /music , would i just drop the /var?
[00:58:00] ethics: it installs console and gui
[00:58:00] sunilonln: is that 'legal'?
[00:58:00] Squidy: ok ok... im using slackware-current with kernel 2.4.30..
[00:58:00] mchou: xris: your script is also missing the freqid.
[00:58:00] ethics: clintar: too many mixers to pick one so they give a choice.....gnome and kde technically dont need a mixer seperately but its easier if they use this
[00:59:00] Squidy: xris, can i past the dmesg in #flood?
[00:59:00] xris: Squidy: pastebin.ca
[00:59:00] xris: but not the whole thing
[00:59:00] xris: mchou: yours doesn't change it, either.
[00:59:00] Esotericisms: hey ethics, I get this error
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[00:59:00] clintar: sunilonln: it will work, it's just more cluttered. make sure whatever user you are running as has access to the folders, though.
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[00:59:00] Squidy: ok
[00:59:00] mchou: xris: I sent you an older file. It needs to be changed.
[00:59:00] xris: mchou: UPDATE channel SET mplexid=%s,serviceid=%s,atscsrcid=%s WHERE sourceid=%s AND xmltvid=%s;
[00:59:00] xris: that's from the newest one you sent me
[00:59:00] Esotericisms: Mixer attach default erro: no such device
[00:59:00] Esotericisms: ??
[01:00:00] mchou: xris: it was on another directory locally.
[01:00:00] Esotericisms: Mixer attach default erro: no such device
[01:00:00] clintar: Esotericisms: you using alsa?
[01:00:00] xris: Squidy: I'm just about to leave for home, so you'll have to find someone else to help you figure out what's up. (I wouldn't be much help, anyway)
[01:00:00] Esotericisms: doh ...
[01:00:00] xris: mchou: ?
[01:00:00] mchou: xris: fix that, you should be set to go.
[01:00:00] Esotericisms: clintar, I am assuming so
[01:00:00] sunilonln: ok, and do i need to (somehow) make it do the mount on boot, or is that automatic?
[01:00:00] sunilonln: i'm running fc3
[01:00:00] Esotericisms: clintar, that is what happens when I run amixer
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[01:01:00] mchou: xris: the newer file was on another one of my drives.
[01:01:00] wheezle: nevermind on the color problem – rebooted, works now
[01:01:00] Esotericisms: anyone?
[01:01:00] Squidy: ok xris thx
[01:01:00] clintar: Esotericisms: did you set up your machine to use alsa?
[01:01:00] mchou: xris: Should say: UPDATE channel SET mplexid=%s,serviceid=%s,atscsrcid=%s,freqid=%s WHERE sourceid=%s AND xmltvid=%s;
[01:02:00] Esotericisms: I thought I did ... where would I have done it?
[01:02:00] clintar: Esotericisms: did you even install your operating system?
[01:02:00] Esotericisms: yes
[01:02:00] Esotericisms: I installed the os
[01:02:00] clintar: did you set up alsa?
[01:02:00] Esotericisms: I am running debian ...
[01:02:00] Esotericisms: guess not ...
[01:03:00] clintar: it's been a while since i've installed debian, but there used to be many steps to get it working
[01:03:00] xris: mchou: ok. that might explain the errors I was getting.
[01:03:00] clintar: to get alsa working
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[01:03:00] xris: :q
[01:03:00] xris: oops
[01:03:00] testuser: Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[01:03:00] testuser: .
[01:03:00] Esotericisms: ok
[01:03:00] clintar: Esotericisms: i'd look for an alsa howto for debian on google
[01:03:00] testuser: I setup mythtv in ubuntu, and followed the FAQ, how to I debug
[01:04:00] sunilonln: clintar: do i need to make it mount on boot, or is it automatic?
[01:04:00] Esotericisms: configuring it right now
[01:04:00] clintar: sunilonln: you would need to edit /etc/fstab for it to automount on boot
[01:04:00] ethics: Esotericisms, open a terminal and run alsaconf.....it should go looking for you soundcard and set it up
[01:04:00] sunilonln: ok
[01:05:00] Esotericisms: yeah
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[01:05:00] Squidy: xris, i pasted the dmesg in pastebin.ca
[01:05:00] xris: Squidy: then you need to paste a link to it.
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[01:06:00] Squidy: http://pastebin.ca/11449
[01:06:00] sunilonln: how do i change ownership of a folder?
[01:06:00] ethics: chown
[01:06:00] clintar: man chown
[01:07:00] sunilonln: k
[01:07:00] sunilonln: if i have the folder /var/video , do i need to give mythtv ownership of /var and /video, or just /video?
[01:08:00] ethics: just video
[01:09:00] sunilonln: hmm, i'm getting access denied when trying to browse to it
[01:09:00] Squidy: i dont know why dont work :(
[01:10:00] sunilonln: the ls output looks like this:
[01:10:00] sunilonln: drw-rw-rw- 2 mythtv root 4096 May 10 17:02 video
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[01:12:00] clintar: sunilonln: the x in there will let you look in the directory
[01:12:00] clintar: sunilonln: chmod u+x
[01:13:00] sunilonln: got it
[01:13:00] sunilonln: thanks
[01:14:00] sunilonln: whoa, it works!
[01:16:00] Squidy: :(
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[01:17:00] sunilonln: ,/etc/fstab says to use fstab-sync, yet it doesn't seem to be installed
[01:17:00] sunilonln: does fedora provide a ui for this somewhere?
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[01:20:00] abarbaccia_sleep: jams you here?
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[01:30:00] Shibz: does anyone know if knoppmyth includes the drivers for PVR-500 cards?
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[01:32:00] Shibz: I have myth tv set up, but when I try to "watch tv" all I get is static. I am sure it is connected right
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[01:33:00] sunilonln: Shibz: i was having the same problem with a pvr-150 .. try updating ivtv
[01:34:00] sunilonln: i don't know what version knoppmyth ships with, but you need a fairly recent release that includes the new tuner drivers
[01:34:00] Squidy: anybody here already configured a pixelview pv-m4900 bt878 ?
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[01:34:00] Randall64: boing boing boing
[01:34:00] ** Randall64 watches Mythtv.app bounce **
[01:34:00] Randall64: I don't think I've tried this on Tiger yet.
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[01:36:00] bobc: I pretty sure latest knoppmyth has ivtv-0.2.0rc3i, which supports 150 and 500, although it may not detect your tuner properly.
[01:36:00] Shibz: how would I find out what version I have?
[01:36:00] bobc: if you know what tuner you have you can pass it in the modprobe and get it to work
[01:37:00] Shibz: well, I have the pcr-500mce tuner, what module would that be?
[01:37:00] Shibz: pvr-500mce*
[01:38:00] bobc: it may have several different tuners, depends on which one you have and NTSC or PAL
[01:38:00] Shibz: NTSC
[01:38:00] Shibz: in my /etc/mythtv/modules/ivtv file it says it's modprobeing tuner, msp3400, saa7115, and ivtv
[01:38:00] ethics: 500s = 2 x 150s in setup
[01:39:00] ethics: i found a setup link in google yesterday for them
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[01:40:00] Shibz: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=23905&  ?
[01:40:00] bobc: try 57
[01:40:00] linagee_: is there any way to search mythtv for shows that are not re-runs, and are good shows? lol
[01:40:00] bobc: modprobe ivtv tuner=57
[01:41:00] ethics: Shibz, yeah although there was another one too
[01:41:00] Shibz: hmmm, I don't see anywhere that has tuner=
[01:41:00] Shibz: would I just add that in that ivtv file?
[01:42:00] bobc: maybe, for a 500 it would be modprobe ivtv tuner=57,57 assuming it is the only card
[01:42:00] bobc: no, that would just be the command line, if it works you could add it to the ivtv file
[01:43:00] bobc: check to see if it works first
[01:43:00] ethics: i think this is the line your looking for options ivtv ivtv_std=0 tuner=57,57 tda9887=0,0 ivtv_debug=1
[01:44:00] Shibz: where would I put that?
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[01:44:00] ethics: linagee_, ummm yeah but you need to filter out.....reality, Hosted, survivor, etc
[01:45:00] bobc: just rmmod ivtv, then modprobe ivtv tuner=57,57 and see if it works
[01:45:00] linagee_: ethics: it needs to be like tivo. learns my viewing habits. :)
[01:45:00] ethics: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=23905& read this the coded section search for etc/mythtv/modules/ivtv
[01:46:00] bobc: if it works, then you can put it in the modules/ivtv as ethics said
[01:47:00] Shibz: still static
[01:48:00] slePP: CyberKnet: yes
[01:48:00] Shibz: maby I need to get the new ivtv
[01:48:00] bobc: does /var/log/messages show that ivtv set the tuners properly?
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[01:48:00] slePP: CyberKnet: i am such a provider :>
[01:48:00] ** slePP goes away **
[01:50:00] Shibz: hmmm, it says "Configuring WinTV PVR 150 card with 5 streams"
[01:50:00] bobc: ivtv sees the pvr500 as two pvr150s
[01:51:00] Shibz: then later, "Initialized WinTV PVR 150, card #1"
[01:51:00] bobc: but what does it say about the tuner?
[01:51:00] maddhaggis: Do I need to modprobe my HD3000 every time I reboot? It doesn't seem to want to stay.
[01:51:00] maddhaggis: noob
[01:51:00] Shibz: tveeprom: tuner = <unknown> blab blah blah
[01:51:00] ethics: .3.2r or later for ivtv on 500s i thinks
[01:51:00] bobc: yes, but it in a boot script
[01:52:00] maddhaggis: which one?
[01:52:00] bobc: ethics: backported to 0.2.0rc3i
[01:52:00] bobc: which is in the latest knoppmyth
[01:52:00] ethics: bobc: cool
[01:52:00] bobc: assuming he's using the latest...
[01:53:00] ethics: havent set up a myth box yet so im probably just trolling for info and helping what i can hehe
[01:53:00] Shibz: it says I am using 0.2.0 (rc3j)
[01:54:00] Shibz: but it says tuner is <unknown>
[01:54:00] bobc: tveeprom doesn't know the tuner, that's why you had to tell it
[01:54:00] Shibz: I would think thats a drivers issue
[01:54:00] Shibz: oh
[01:54:00] bobc: later on it will say that ivtv set the tuner to ... and should say 56
[01:54:00] bobc: sorry 57
[01:55:00] bobc: i had to do this with my 150 and 0.2.0rc3j
[01:55:00] bobc: didn't need to with 0.3.4b
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[01:58:00] Squidy: ill kick this capture card.. =/
[01:58:00] bobc: at the very end of the ivtv section in /var/log/messages, third from the last is a line that goes "tuner: type set to 57 by ivtv", right?
[01:59:00] bobc: or is it a different number?
[01:59:00] maddhaggis: Which boot script do I use?
[02:00:00] bobc: depends on the distro you're running
[02:00:00] maddhaggis: FC3
[02:00:00] Shibz: cx:25840: Unable to open FW file '/lib/modules/HcwMakoA.ROM'
[02:00:00] bobc: check out jarod's excellent guid
[02:00:00] bobc: that's not good...
[02:00:00] Shibz: it also says "type set to 0"
[02:01:00] bobc: HcwMakoA.ROM is the firmware
[02:01:00] Shibz: firmware, isn't that stored on the tuner card it's self?
[02:01:00] topping: i think some of that poo is on the CD too
[02:02:00] bobc: hauppage loads it at modprobe so that it can be upgraded
[02:02:00] topping: checked the readme with the ivtv distro?
[02:02:00] ethics: cp /cdrom/WinTV-PVR-150500MCE_2.0.18.22316_WHQL_signed/HcwMakoA.ROM /lib/modules ITS ON YOUR DRIVER CD FROM THE BOX APPRENTLY
[02:02:00] Shibz: k, 1 sec
[02:03:00] bobc: I copied mine from the cd. it's mentioned in the howto: http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=PVR150-500Firmware
[02:03:00] bobc: Knoppmyth may not have included it yet, I guess
[02:04:00] ethics: ok so heres a possibly stupid question ....i have a baby celeron 566 i can buy a PVR card for or i can wait for a new PC .....would a cele 500 be ok with say a pvr 150 or should i go mpeg2 out
[02:05:00] bobc: would be ok
[02:06:00] bobc: some caveats though
[02:06:00] topping: anyone know of a way to import existing mp3s into mythmusic? can mythmusic read id3tags to put into the database?
[02:06:00] fryfrog: the celly 566 prolly won't play great, but you could use it as a backend prolly?
[02:06:00] bobc: may not play 720x480 well, but close
[02:07:00] bobc: my duron 650 does it at 65% cpu
[02:07:00] bobc: well, I have to go work on my basement. have fun and good luck
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[02:11:00] ethics: hmm cool
[02:11:00] topping: http://boris.eggsandtoast.com/nintendo.php
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[02:12:00] ethics: bobc: and from what i gather 2x pvr 150s = 1 x 500 yeah
[02:12:00] topping: ethics: minus the remote(s)
[02:12:00] ethics: shrug i can change channels from a frontend tho anyways yeah?
[02:13:00] topping: yep!
[02:13:00] sunilonln: topping: that nintendo is ridiculous
[02:13:00] topping: i know hehe
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[02:17:00] Esotericisms: you there?
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[02:17:00] Esotericisms: doh wrong channe;
[02:17:00] Esotericisms: anywho ..
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[02:18:00] Pio: anyone familiar with what might be causing the audio on my recordings to be laden with popping?
[02:19:00] Pio: it was *real* bad, then i started running mythbackend with a -16 niceness.. its still there, but not as bad
[02:19:00] Pio: my cpu isnt particularly overworked when recording, anyway
[02:20:00] ethics: Pio what soundcard?
[02:20:00] Pio: sb live.. snd_emu10k1
[02:20:00] Pio: on the same machine, on an older kernel, on slackware (now gentoo), on myth 0.16, it captured audio perfectly...
[02:20:00] ethics: that may be the problem...dont know how well they are setup.......try some of this stuff
[02:20:00] ethics: http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/quality/#cheap
[02:20:00] dhofstra: Pio sometimes that audio buffer setting can make a difference
[02:21:00] ethics: could just be settings on the card...new kernel may have diff defaults
[02:21:00] Esotericisms: do I have to install lirc?
[02:21:00] Pio: yeah im suspicious of the kernel
[02:21:00] dhofstra: is this on a PVR card? or a bttv card
[02:22:00] Pio: its a bt848
[02:22:00] Pio: internal cd audio connector for audio capture
[02:22:00] dhofstra: Esotericisms: do you want to use a remote control? then lirc is a must
[02:22:00] Pio: but if i just play the audio connector input straight up, its perfectly clear
[02:22:00] Pio: its just when recording i get the pops
[02:22:00] dhofstra: Pio: ok forget the buffer thingy
[02:22:00] Esotericisms: can I do it later on?
[02:22:00] Esotericisms: do I have to do it now ... I don't have a remote
[02:22:00] Esotericisms: currently
[02:23:00] dhofstra: you can setup lirc later
[02:23:00] dhofstra: has no bearing if you set it up now or way down the road.. it works independantly of mythtv (unless you want to compile myth with builtin lirc bindings)
[02:24:00] dhofstra: myth can be compiled to use native lirc (which I much prefer) it is a compile time option. if it is not, you will have to use irxevent to send the keystrokes (which works ok for most people)
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[02:25:00] egsavage: Anyone here trying to use ATI's drivers with MythTV? If so, what kernel and RPM are you using?
[02:27:00] Esotericisms: what capture card is the WinTV Go ?
[02:28:00] Esotericisms: like in the setup process?
[02:28:00] dhofstra: Eso .. should be a bt card.. forget which option that is..
[02:29:00] dhofstra: not hardware mpeg, not dvb, is it called mjpeg card?
[02:29:00] Esotericisms: what is the video device?
[02:30:00] dhofstra: by selecting /dev/video or /dev/video0 or /dev/video1 you will see that one of them has your inputs available in the drop down list at the bottom
[02:30:00] dhofstra: that would be the correct one;
[02:31:00] Esotericisms: my mouse isn't working in the gui
[02:31:00] Esotericisms: it is weird
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[02:32:00] ethics: Esotericisms, as in in X at all ?
[02:32:00] Esotericisms: no just in the mythtv gui
[02:32:00] dhofstra: the mouse is not supposed to work in myth use tab
[02:32:00] dhofstra: it has been purposely disabled
[02:33:00] Esotericisms: after mythtv-setup ... what next?
[02:33:00] Pio: is a preemptible kernel safe for myth? could that have something to do with my sound pops?
[02:33:00] ethics: hmm why disable mouse?
[02:33:00] Pio: maybe its pre-empting the sound device reads
[02:34:00] dhofstra: Esotericisms: after you have done all 3 steps of myth setup; you need to run mythfilldatabase and then start the backend
[02:34:00] Esotericisms: am I suppose to do something in input connections?
[02:34:00] GreyFoxx: ethics: Cause it's not intended to be mouse controlled plus none of the buttons will react to a mouse press
[02:34:00] dhofstra: ethics myth is designed to be totally controlled by a simple remote control, and we all know how annoying a little mouse cursor is when you are trying to watch the swimsuit competition
[02:35:00] dhofstra: Esotericisms: you need to complete the first 3 sections of mythtv setup; input connections are where you assign your lineup to an available input on your card
[02:36:00] Esotericisms: hrm ... something isn't right then
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[02:36:00] Esotericisms: which section of the howto should I be following at this point?
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[02:39:00] ethics: fair enough...i would have thought autohide the mouse after 10 seconds or soemthing may have been usefull..
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[02:41:00] Squidy_: can somebody here help me with configuration of the pixelview pv-m4900 capture card?
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[02:48:00] dopester: xris: im here
[02:48:00] ethics: Squidy: its a BT575p chip card
[02:48:00] ethics: Squidy: what are you stuck on?
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[02:50:00] Squidy_: ethics, it is a bt878a
[02:51:00] Squidy_: with kernel 2.4.30 on slackware-current
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[02:52:00] Squidy_: i saw in the dmesg: bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA7432 @ 0x8a... not found
[02:53:00] ethics: card=72 and tuner=42.
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[02:54:00] Squidy_: nothing
[02:54:00] ethics: Squidy_, : LSPCI give you modules loaded etc?
[02:57:00] Squidy_: ethics, lspci show me the cards ok
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[02:58:00] ethics: Squidy, so whats wrong?
[03:00:00] Squidy: ethics, do u want to see my dmesg output?
[03:00:00] ethics: modprobe ivtv tuner=42
[03:00:00] ethics: Squidy, if you have it #flood please
[03:02:00] Squidy: ok.. i did
[03:04:00] ethics: ok i pasted a working one for you so you see whats wrong....you need to set your tuner type...
[03:04:00] ethics: rmmod ivtv
[03:04:00] ethics: modprove ivtv tuner=42 card =72
[03:04:00] ethics: try that
[03:04:00] ethics: check dmesg
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[03:05:00] Squidy: hmm.. im using bttv now
[03:05:00] ethics: um modprobe not modprove
[03:05:00] dhofstra: why do you keep saying modprobe ivtv.. is this a bttv card? or an ivtv card?
[03:06:00] abarbaccia_sleep: anybody here use nuv2disc successfully? I am having trouble transcoding
[03:06:00] Squidy: i thing that this is a bttv card..
[03:06:00] ethics: oh replace ivtv with bttv
[03:06:00] Squidy: ok
[03:06:00] Squidy: i did
[03:07:00] ethics: my mistake...too many abreviations in the world hehe
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[03:07:00] Squidy: :)
[03:07:00] ethics: dmesg better?
[03:07:00] Squidy: no.. its similar
[03:07:00] ethics: hmm: well your all right except for the tuner config it seems
[03:08:00] weasie: hey, anyone got an example of a working ircrc file for a pvr150? I have lirc working and recognizing it, but I can't get the ircrc file working right, the pvr250/350 ones don't match for the 150
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[03:08:00] ethics: thats better
[03:08:00] Squidy: ethics, what is this: bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA7432 @ 0x8a... not found
[03:09:00] ethics: Squidy, that looks like its setup ok...
[03:09:00] ethics: it looks for a few types at once...it found 1 of the 3 possibilities
[03:10:00] JonXP: Hey, I've got MythTV almost working, but when I try to start the backend, it says it starts OK, but then the frontend says that it isn't running, and pgrep doesn't fins the back-end running.
[03:10:00] dhofstra: JonXP.. try as root issuing mythbackend in a terminal
[03:10:00] dhofstra: it will output to the terminal any errors
[03:10:00] JonXP: dhofstra: Alright.
[03:10:00] Agrajag-: err why as root?
[03:11:00] Agrajag-: don't run it was root
[03:11:00] dhofstra: dunno, bad habit
[03:11:00] Squidy: ethics, when i try to use the tuner (scan channels), dmesg shows this: tuner: tuner type not set
[03:11:00] JonXP: I thought the backend was supposed to be done as root.
[03:11:00] ethics: dhofstra: firewalls?
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[03:11:00] JonXP: AH well.
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[03:11:00] ethics: restar myth
[03:11:00] Agrajag-: JonXP: no, definately not
[03:11:00] SarahEmm: hihi
[03:11:00] Agrajag-: JonXP: run it as a normal user
[03:12:00] JonXP: OK.
[03:12:00] dhofstra: Agrajag is right.. sorry
[03:12:00] ethics: Squidy, you may need to restart whatever myth daemon is called
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[03:12:00] weasie: I guess nobody has a pvr150 with remote to compare, ah well, thanks anyway all
[03:13:00] ethics: weasie, whats up?
[03:13:00] ethics: weasie, i dont have one but i can prolly help a bit..
[03:14:00] dhofstra: (although the startup script generally runs the backend as root)
[03:14:00] ** dhofstra puts on flame retardant suit **
[03:15:00] Agrajag-: i wouldn't use that startup script then
[03:16:00] ethics: Squidy, ok im looking for more info
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[03:17:00] Squidy: ethics, does exist a method to found the tuner to the especify card?
[03:17:00] ethics: Squidy, rmmod bttv && modprobe bttv tuner = 43 card=72
[03:17:00] maddhaggis: How do I change udev so that my HD3000 permissions work at startup?
[03:18:00] ethics: cards not supported yet...radio/sound on it is crewy..only mono or something from what i read
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[03:19:00] ethics: Squidy, any better>?
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[03:20:00] Agrajag-: maddhaggis: edit your /etc/udev/permissions.rules (well that's what it is in debian. not sure about others)
[03:20:00] Squidy: bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA7432 @ 0x8a... not found...
[03:20:00] ethics: Squidy, these cards are very inconsistant ....different versions in different places around workld
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[03:20:00] ethics: Squidy...i thinkits the hex address needing to be forced
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[03:22:00] Squidy: i force the addr tuner to 0x61
[03:22:00] Squidy: but nothing
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[03:24:00] ethics: Squidy, edit your modprove.conf and put this line in there and try reprobing...........options tuner addr=0x61
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[03:24:00] ethics: im not sure where the problem is atm but i hav3e at least 4 versions of that card atm
[03:24:00] Squidy: im use 2.4.30 (modules.conf) and this line are there aready.
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[03:28:00] ethics: Squidy: kk well i found a new site to look at so gimme a sec ill skin\m it
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[03:29:00] ethics: have you tried using xawtv?
[03:29:00] Squidy: i tried use tvtime
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[03:32:00] ethics: Squidy, sounds like this card is a bitch...
[03:32:00] Squidy: :D
[03:32:00] Squidy: :(
[03:32:00] GreyFoxx: 23~24~
[03:32:00] GreyFoxx: oops
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[03:33:00] ethics: not much as far as good news so far
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[03:33:00] weasie: ethics: sorry stepped away for a bit
[03:34:00] RossTFarian: need help with cvs compile of mythmovietime – anyone have it working?
[03:34:00] ethics: Squidy, well the thread i was reading only had 15 people all saying they cant figure it out.//
[03:34:00] weasie: ethics: I figured it out. I just had to map the ircrc file to the names that were really being used in the lirc.conf. They were majorly different.
[03:35:00] ethics: weasie, ahh cool well as long as your cooking
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[03:35:00] weasie: ethics, yup all set now for the remote, now I just have to figure out why channel changing is so darn slow :)
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[03:36:00] dhofstra: LOL slow channel changing
[03:37:00] weasie: dhofstra: do I want to know why you find that so funny?
[03:37:00] dhofstra: ~4–5 sec if using an irblaster or external changer, 2–3 secs on a tuner
[03:37:00] weasie: yeah, it is like 2–3 seconds on a build in tuner
[03:37:00] dhofstra: its a fact of myth.. it'll only bother you for as long as you actually still watch live tv
[03:37:00] weasie: I don't have that same lag on my pvr250
[03:37:00] weasie: my pvr150 has a much longer lag
[03:38:00] dhofstra: myth livetv is always 2–3 sec behind realtime , so therefore there is a lag
[03:38:00] weasie: I think that it might be even longer than that on my 150
[03:38:00] weasie: it is noticably slower than with my 250
[03:38:00] RossTFarian: just go into settings / tv settings and choose "always use browse mode"
[03:38:00] weasie: the fun part is, that the 150 is running on a much faster macine
[03:38:00] dhofstra: yes browse mode is a must
[03:38:00] RossTFarian: should be default
[03:39:00] weasie: I never have used browse mode
[03:39:00] weasie: what does it do that is so special?
[03:39:00] dhofstra: I actually notice my channel changes fastest on my remote frontend; browse mode should be the default.. it is sooo nice
[03:39:00] RossTFarian: you don't actually change channels until you hit enter – you can browse the channel data as fast as you want tho – no 2–3 seconds
[03:40:00] weasie: aah, I just bring up the EPG
[03:40:00] weasie: then I scroll through that with the picture in the upper right
[03:40:00] weasie: when I find what I want, I move to it from there
[03:40:00] RossTFarian: same same but different ;)
[03:40:00] dhofstra: in all reality, much of livetv (i.e. sat and cable boxes) have a delay nowadays, and browse mode is the only 'useable' way even on those boxes to manage channel changes
[03:40:00] weasie: yeah, I hate the comcast box lag
[03:41:00] weasie: I don't use that for my Myth, I do direct cable into the box since I am not recording anything on cable channels that need decoding
[03:41:00] weasie: however, I want to start messing witht he firewire stuff as I do have an HDTV and and HDTV cable box, that will be interesting
[03:41:00] weasie: need much more hard drive space though :)
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[03:42:00] dhofstra: there will still be a lag, in that myth is always buffered 2–3 seconds behind livetv; I believe one of the devs is working on making it a little faster
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[03:42:00] weasie: well,I will get used to it, just seems more sluggish than the 250 is all
[03:43:00] weasie: also, for a few seconds after I change channels it can studder
[03:43:00] weasie: thought it might have been DMA mode on the HD and such but hdparm says everything is good
[03:43:00] weasie: who knows
[03:43:00] dhofstra: people used to tell me that 'you will start to record so much you will no longer even use livetv' I never believed them, but now... its true
[03:43:00] dhofstra: havent watched livetv in months
[03:43:00] weasie: yeah, I am usually not watching live tc
[03:43:00] weasie: tv
[03:43:00] weasie: so I don't notice it as much
[03:44:00] ethics: Squidy, options bttv card=72 tuner=43 radio=1
[03:44:00] ethics: options tuner addr=0x61
[03:45:00] ethics: a working version under tvtime...although its not flash
[03:46:00] RossTFarian: I've started to notice that there are usually 20 minutes of commercials per hour in liveTV – I can hardly tolerate it. I'd rather timestretch down to .8 and ffwd over them :)
[03:46:00] weasie: I usually just use the "Z" key, it skips the comercial :)
[03:46:00] ethics: OHH Squidy ..........options bttv card=0x25
[03:46:00] weasie: provided you are watching recorded things
[03:47:00] Squidy: ethics, ies... this is the card #37
[03:47:00] Squidy: ethics, look at http://www.bttv-gallery.de/
[03:47:00] ** dhofstra lives on timestretch 1.2; wish I could set that as default play speed **
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[03:47:00] ethics: card = 0x25 is new from this page im reading
[03:48:00] dhofstra: most of my sat captures and all of my hd captures get the commercials so right I use autoskip nowadays; cable stuff still misses too many commercials
[03:48:00] Squidy: in Pixelview PV-M4900... there are the especify that tuner: TVF5533MF
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[03:48:00] weasie: well all, I have to run, catch ya later
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[03:51:00] Squidy: what is the tuner TVF5533MF? TVision
[03:51:00] ethics: Squidy, hah 64K isdn for the gallery is taking it's time hehe
[03:51:00] ethics: afk a min while it loads
[03:52:00] Squidy: heh.. ok ok
[03:52:00] Squidy: its much pics
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[03:54:00] tibbetts: I deleted a recording file from the filesystem. Is there a clean way to remove any entries fromthe database that are missing from the filesystem, other than by hand with SQL?
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[03:55:00] GreyFoxx: tibbets touch the filename on the filesystem and use the menus to remove it
[03:56:00] RossTFarian: tibbets: I think 0.18 had a fix to allow deleting "files" that were not present on disk...
[03:57:00] tibbetts: touching the filename requires sql scripting to figure out what the filename should be.
[03:57:00] tibbetts: Hmm, I'm running 0.18.
[03:57:00] tibbetts: delete in the interface silently fails.
[03:58:00] RossTFarian: maybe that was the current cvs changelog I was reading
[03:59:00] MiX-MaN: if using duel tunners.. do i have to have a soundcard for each tunner? or could i put one on line in and one on cd in?
[03:59:00] MiX-MaN: dual
[03:59:00] Agrajag-: tibbetts: filename is just <chanid>_<startdate/time>_<finishdate/time>
[03:59:00] Agrajag-: .nuv
[04:00:00] dhofstra: 0.18.1 will be out soon (i.e. this weekend)
[04:00:00] dhofstra: and may fix that bug
[04:00:00] ZMorek: ok so I want to try doing some broadcatching and torrent video downloading, is there a RELATIVELY seamless way to pull it off? or at least an easy way to do it?
[04:01:00] Agrajag-: ZMorek: torrent video downloading?
[04:01:00] Agrajag-: what's that got to do with myth?
[04:01:00] dhofstra: ZMorek, you might lookinto torrentocracy; never tried it, but it may suit what you are looking for (unsupported plugin)
[04:01:00] ZMorek: well when I download them, will there be a way for the myth frontend to recognize them
[04:01:00] ZMorek: and put them in the library
[04:01:00] dhofstra: have them download into your video directory for mythvideo
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[04:02:00] ZMorek: mhmmm
[04:02:00] dhofstra: you will have to run video manager to see the newest files, though (I think)
[04:03:00] ZMorek: ok
[04:03:00] ZMorek: it didn't occur to me how much of a dumb question I just asked until I asked it :-\
[04:04:00] dhofstra: heh, been there done that
[04:05:00] dhofstra: you can ask dumb questions in here as long as you arent a 'dumbass' per the topic
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[04:13:00] ethics: there are no dumb questions....just dumb people.......hmmm?
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[04:29:00] bobc: MiX-MaN: did anyone answer your question about dual tuners?
[04:29:00] MiX-MaN: heh
[04:29:00] MiX-MaN: i asked it and did'nt even bother to check :/
[04:29:00] bobc: depends on the tuners
[04:30:00] MiX-MaN: bt's
[04:30:00] MiX-MaN: 878's
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[04:30:00] bitblit: when I emerge ivtv, I get this error: CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV: should be set in the kernel configuration, but isn't
[04:30:00] bobc: depends on whether you can use btaudio, otherwise you need a sound card for each
[04:30:00] MiX-MaN: ah
[04:31:00] MiX-MaN: was tring to get btaudio to work a lil while ago
[04:32:00] bobc: I don't know much about bttv anymore, I took mine out a long time ago – it was a pain and the PVR250 was so much better
[04:32:00] MiX-MaN: really?
[04:32:00] bobc: really it was a pain, or really the PVR250 was better?
[04:32:00] MiX-MaN: err
[04:32:00] bobc: either way, yes, really
[04:32:00] MiX-MaN: sorry.. it wasent hard getting the 250 working
[04:33:00] MiX-MaN: err
[04:33:00] MiX-MaN: ok.. was talking to wife on tele
[04:33:00] MiX-MaN: so.. it was easier getting the 250 working over bttv?
[04:33:00] bobc: no, the 250 was easier than the bttv, and that was about 1 1/2 years ago. very easy now
[04:33:00] MiX-MaN: hmm
[04:34:00] MiX-MaN: the 350 is the dual tunner card right?
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[04:34:00] bobc: 250 is very easy, 350 I understand can be a pain if you use tv-out and now I'm playing with a pvr-150, which is easy for the video, but I'm having problems with lirc (its a retail 150)
[04:34:00] MiX-MaN: damn :/
[04:34:00] MiX-MaN: 15$ for a bt card :)
[04:34:00] MiX-MaN: heh
[04:34:00] bobc: no, the PVR500 is the dual tuner. 350 has the tvout
[04:35:00] MiX-MaN: whats the diff between the 150 and 250?
[04:35:00] bobc: yeah, they're cheap, but the picture quality isn't as good and it uses a lot of cpu
[04:36:00] bobc: diff btw 150 and 250 is basically just the support in ivtv. picture quality is the same, 150 is cheaper, but ivtv is a little less mature
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[04:36:00] bobc: sorry, ivtv is less mature for the 150
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[04:37:00] MiX-MaN: hmm
[04:37:00] bobc: for example, video scaling was just added for the 150
[04:37:00] tuxristo: xris, are you using a remote frontend?
[04:37:00] xris: occasionally
[04:37:00] MiX-MaN: i might have to look into getting a pvr card
[04:37:00] xris: (I run mythfrontend on my workstation to do commercial cutting)
[04:37:00] bobc: the 500 is basically seen as two 150s, so the driver maturity is about the same
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[04:38:00] Ashlar: I'm having troubles with 0.18 and livetv.. can't change channel.. when I try, it freezes the frontend, but I can esc out to the menus.. it actually does execute the channel change script or change the tuner, and recordings change the channel fine, but now on two separate frontends, it doesn't seem to work w/ livetv.. nothing interesting in the logs.. any ideas?
[04:40:00] Agrajag-: redefine what you call 'interesting' in the logs and have another look :P
[04:40:00] Ashlar: heh.. nothing out of the ordinary that I can tell on either frontend or backend.. let me crank up the debug
[04:41:00] Agrajag-: so when it freezes, you dont see either the frontend or backend logs come up with anything?
[04:41:00] Ashlar: let me tail both and pastebin
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[04:45:00] tuxristo: xris, i men when it hangs while generating previews, does it do it on a remote frontend or a local? or both?
[04:45:00] tuxristo: men -> mean
[04:45:00] Ashlar: http://pastebin.ca/11458
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[04:48:00] bobc: did you try with mythfrontend -v playback?
[04:48:00] kibbles: hello... is there a way to shut down mythtv and get back to a shell?
[04:48:00] Agrajag-: Ashlar: gimme a seck
[04:48:00] Ashlar: ahh, I wondered what the appropriate -v option was.. lemme try that
[04:48:00] vynaldo: Hi everyone. I am trying to set up my channels correctly (using cable) and was wondering what is the difference between "Channel Number" and "Frequency ID"? Are they meant to be set to the same value?
[04:49:00] bobc: kibbles: esc
[04:49:00] kibbles: cool, thanks
[04:49:00] Agrajag-: Ashlar: not sure, i don't use an external channel change program.. but i think someone else had a similar problem the other day, and had to do with exit codes from the external program
[04:50:00] Ashlar: ouch.. seg fault on -v playback
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[04:50:00] bobc: wow, I've never seen that, that seems odd
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[04:51:00] Ashlar: Agrajag-: I can mod the channel change program to return whatever myth is looking for.. it's the dct-channel prog from the /contrib dir
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[04:52:00] Ashlar: Agrajag-: it also does this on the one input / card I have that uses a tuner.. so I wouldn't think it's necessarily the external change channel command
[04:52:00] Agrajag-: sorry, can't remember what it's supposed to be.. just try a few different things.. or possibly search this channels logs
[04:53:00] Ashlar: didn't think of that.. been a while since I hung out here- logging's new to me :)
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[04:59:00] Ashlar: lol, I think it was me who asked a couple of days ago, Agrajag-. hehe.. looking back further
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[05:14:00] shadbash: has anybody ever looked into updating goom?
[05:15:00] shadbash: I'm looking at the source for both myth version + current goom and it looks like all that needs to happen is libraries be swapped
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[05:17:00] shadbash: lots of cool goom tweaks in the code
[05:17:00] laga: try it ;)
[05:17:00] shadbash: just wondering if anybodies looked into it before
[05:18:00] shadbash: laga: actaully I had to put myth down for a while b/c of outsourcing possibilities at work :-(
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[05:19:00] shadbash: but now the storm cloud's blown over and it looks like I'm going to be around for a while
[05:19:00] laga: nice! ;)
[05:20:00] shadbash: Currently I'm working with Yoper linux to get the distro more up to date
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[05:20:00] shadbash: helping to intigrate anaconda
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[05:20:00] shadbash: new step will be mythtv
[05:20:00] shadbash: new = next
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[05:21:00] shadbash: also helping to set up their rpm build enviornment
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[05:21:00] shadbash: baseing it PLD's pld-builder.new
[05:22:00] shadbash: should allow automated RPM builds kinda like what DAG does
[05:23:00] shadbash: I was looking at some of the other myth visualizations in mythmusic source
[05:23:00] shadbash: looks like I can change the colors pretty easy
[05:23:00] shadbash: I think most use SDL
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[05:25:00] shadbash: these are what I'd like to integrate into mythtv http://visuals.free.vovoid.com/
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[05:26:00] shadbash: I remember some of those visualizations from sonique
[05:26:00] shadbash: anyway if anybody has some pointers reguarding visualizations + mythmusic let me know
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[05:32:00] Uberbot: Is there any way to watch internet streaming video w/ myth?
[05:35:00] xris: tuxristo: only tested the preview thing remotely. my main frontend isn't back online yet.
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[05:36:00] Beirdo: wonder what shadbash's next distro of the month will be?
[05:36:00] shadbash: actaully it went fro fc3
[05:36:00] shadbash: to centos
[05:36:00] shadbash: to yoper
[05:36:00] shadbash: now Im helping yoper get up to date
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[05:37:00] shadbash: once yoper is using anaconda I can start hacking it
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[05:39:00] shadbash: Yoper is cool because it is 686=fast + rpm based + framebuffer kernel + fast init
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[05:40:00] DarkBeer_: can anyone help with this problem? using a pvr-350 w/tv out, and can't change channels. only channel I get is channel 3. if I select another channel number, the guide info shows, but channel won't change. i am seeing this message from syslog "kernel: ivtv: i2c client id: 0x02 not found!
[05:40:00] DarkBeer_: messages I'm seeing in the forum with that ivtv message all seem to be people with multiple tuners, not just one
[05:40:00] shadbash: and the srpms are all Yoper created meaning not all kinds of crazy dependancies
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[05:41:00] fryfrog: DarkBeer_: did you compile in i2c support (or as module)?
[05:41:00] fryfrog: DarkBeer_: did ivtv detect your tuner type and stuff okay? any errors after ivtv loads in dmesg?
[05:42:00] DarkBeer_: using knoppmyth, so haven't had to compile anything before
[05:42:00] fryfrog: i see
[05:42:00] fryfrog: well, what do you see in dmesg after a clean boot?
[05:42:00] fryfrog: should be easy to find the ivtv parts
[05:42:00] DarkBeer_: checking
[05:44:00] xris: mchou: well, I think I got it working.
[05:44:00] xris: now to make it a little smarter and have it bring in a default channel, etc.
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[05:50:00] DarkBeer_: fryfrog, found it. had to comment out the "options tuner type=2" in the ivtv file
[05:51:00] fryfrog: ah, yeah that'd cause MAJOR problems :)
[05:51:00] fryfrog: if your tuner type isn't 2... which it almost certainly isnt :)
[05:51:00] DarkBeer_: mine is 2
[05:52:00] fryfrog: you sure?
[05:52:00] fryfrog: after you comment that out and rmmod all the ivtv stuff, then "modprobe ivtv" does it still detect a tuner type 2?
[05:53:00] DarkBeer_: ivtv: Tuner Type 2, Tuner formats 0x00001000, Radio:
[05:53:00] DarkBeer_: yes, Model 0x00a93493, Revision 0x00000001
[05:53:00] fryfrog: is it an old 350?
[05:53:00] DarkBeer_: yes
[05:53:00] fryfrog: ah
[05:53:00] fryfrog: so its fixed now?
[05:53:00] DarkBeer_: all i know is everything is working for now, so must be time for bed :)
[05:54:00] fryfrog: woo woo :)
[05:54:00] DarkBeer_: thanks, and g'night
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[05:56:00] bobc: can anyone tell me how to pull the stable branch from cvs?
[05:57:00] bobc: i've pull regular cvs many times, but never a branch
[05:57:00] fryfrog: is any version of myth truely "stable"? :)
[05:59:00] xris: bobc: man cvs
[05:59:00] bobc: hmmm, maybe I mean the 18.1 branch.
[05:59:00] levon: it's 0.18. Is that ment to be stable? :P
[05:59:00] xris: might be easier to grab it from the svn repository, though. I've found that svn is a lot easier to deal with than cvs for things like branches.
[06:00:00] xris: or you could wait a couple of days — jarod says it's going to be released soon
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[06:00:00] levon: bobc, to pull a branch, use the -r <branchtag> option to cvs
[06:00:00] fryfrog: groovy, new release of myth :)
[06:00:00] fryfrog: i still have stability issues related to using mythweb :/
[06:00:00] fryfrog: but its not mythweb
[06:01:00] fryfrog: just that mythweb is the only thing that asks mythbackend to generate pngs
[06:01:00] xris: fryfrog: yeah. and I have no idea how to fix that.
[06:01:00] tuxristo: fryfrog: what version of myth?
[06:01:00] fryfrog: 0.18
[06:01:00] tuxristo: stock 0.18, eh
[06:01:00] xris: my frontend hangs when I try to generate thumbnails now, though (but not the backend)
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[06:02:00] tuxristo: xris,
[06:02:00] xris: bobc: https://svn.wilsonet.com/svn/mythtv/
[06:02:00] xris: hmm, that's not responding, nevermind.
[06:03:00] xris: tuxristo: haven't had a chance to rebuild mythfrontend.
[06:04:00] bobc: thanks, xris, levon
[06:04:00] tuxristo: xris, ok, i am testing some different versions here with the patch that went in on the forth to see if i can reproduce, lemme know once you rebuild
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[06:04:00] xris: hmm, why can my mythbox never connect to the cvs server?
[06:05:00] xris: I can ssh in, but the instant I try to use cvs, it hangs.
[06:05:00] xris: just sits there.
[06:05:00] bobc: chutt is playing with you
[06:06:00] xris: apparently
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[06:06:00] bobc: just what is this supposed to mean in the cvs man: Warning:
[06:06:00] bobc: this is not the same as the overall `cvs -r'
[06:06:00] bobc: option, which you can specify to the left of a cvs
[06:06:00] bobc: command!
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[06:06:00] bobc: that was under -r for tag
[06:07:00] bobc: how can -r be different than -r?
[06:08:00] levon: "to the left of a cvs command"
[06:08:00] levon: there is left and right
[06:08:00] levon: there is -r on the left and -r on the right
[06:08:00] bobc: cvs -r cvs?
[06:08:00] levon: cvs <options> command <options>
[06:08:00] levon: -r is used on the right of the command for branches/tags
[06:09:00] bobc: ok
[06:09:00] levon: -d for example is the repository on the left but means prune on the right for update
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[06:10:00] defaultro: good morning guys
[06:10:00] levon: morning defaultro
[06:11:00] bobc: it actually makes complete sense when you step back and read a little more first, huh?
[06:11:00] defaultro: does anyone of you have experience with hdtv cards other than air2pc and hd2k/3k?
[06:13:00] bobc: anyone know why gamin would start using a lot of cpu (20%-55% of my duron 650) while while watching a recording or live tv, but not with mplayer or anything else?
[06:14:00] fryfrog: bobc: what kind of card?
[06:14:00] bobc: it's really screwed up my mythtv with gam_server chewing up what little processor I have
[06:14:00] fryfrog: oh, while watching a recording too :/
[06:14:00] bobc: this is on a remote frontend watching live or recorded (with recording complete)
[06:15:00] fryfrog: weird
[06:15:00] bobc: worked fine until I added mythdvd
[06:16:00] bobc: was probably some package I added to support mythdvd. I'm running kubuntu.
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[06:17:00] defaultro: anyone online who owns fx5200?
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[06:22:00] mchou: xris: did the script work for ya?
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[06:22:00] xris: mchou: I think so
[06:22:00] mchou: defaultro: hey, watch house?
[06:22:00] xris: I think in my second to last trial run I had forgotten to go back in and update the startchan
[06:22:00] xris: now it does so automatically
[06:22:00] mchou: xris: OK.
[06:22:00] xris: thanks for the help
[06:22:00] P0wer1: Could some1 please help with this message i get in dmesg when modprob'ing a module "Your board has no valid PCI Subsystem ID and thus can'tcx88[0]: be autodetected. Please pass card=<n> insmod option tocx88[0]: workaround that."
[06:23:00] mchou: defaultro: why do you ask? :)
[06:23:00] defaultro: hi mchou
[06:23:00] mchou: hi defaultro
[06:23:00] defaultro: just would like to know if it can support 1920x1080
[06:23:00] mchou: huh???
[06:23:00] defaultro: hey i saw House
[06:24:00] defaultro: today
[06:24:00] defaultro: and last week's too
[06:24:00] mchou: yeah, great show tonight :)
[06:24:00] defaultro: volger is gone
[06:24:00] defaultro: i got confused with their converstation though
[06:24:00] mchou: next week looks interesting too :)
[06:24:00] defaultro: what does House really mean?
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[06:24:00] defaultro: did he spoil the night?
[06:24:00] P0wer1: Also any advice on getting an ati tv@nywhere to work with mythtv....or am i just wasting my time?
[06:25:00] mchou: defaultro: yeah, pretty much :)
[06:25:00] defaultro: oh ok
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[06:25:00] mchou: but cameron still has some hope :)
[06:25:00] defaultro: :)
[06:25:00] defaultro: House reply was "i don't this so", cameron's was I dunno
[06:25:00] mchou: except after next week house's former beau shows up :)
[06:25:00] defaultro: think
[06:26:00] defaultro: oh ok
[06:26:00] mchou: defaultro: air2pc can capture at 1080.....
[06:26:00] defaultro: no, that wasn't my question :)
[06:26:00] mchou: defaultro: so dont understand your question.
[06:27:00] defaultro: my question was about the nvidia video driver
[06:27:00] defaultro: oh, not the driver but the card itself
[06:27:00] mchou: huh???
[06:27:00] defaultro: can it output at 1920x1080?
[06:27:00] defaultro: the resolution?
[06:27:00] Beirdo: RTFM
[06:27:00] mchou: 1080i it can do.
[06:27:00] defaultro: oh cool
[06:27:00] defaultro: here he goes again
[06:27:00] defaultro: Beirdo
[06:27:00] Beirdo: I'm sure there are specs for your card out there
[06:27:00] defaultro: lol
[06:27:00] defaultro: i was just curious
[06:28:00] defaultro: :)
[06:28:00] Beirdo: quit askin stupid questions :)
[06:28:00] mchou: yeah, stop that :)
[06:28:00] defaultro: you hate me so much :D lol
[06:28:00] defaultro: I'm like a pattern in your bot
[06:28:00] defaultro: s/defaultro/wakeup/
[06:29:00] mchou: no, we just tired of stupid questions is all (especially if the answers are readily available elsewhere)
[06:29:00] Beirdo: you think too highly of yourself, defaultro
[06:29:00] P0wer1: Could some1 please help with this message i get in dmesg when modprob'ing a module "Your board has no valid PCI Subsystem ID and thus can'tcx88[0]: be autodetected. Please pass card=<n> insmod option tocx88[0]: workaround that."
[06:29:00] defaultro: so yeah, next week's house is gonna be nice
[06:29:00] defaultro: apology
[06:29:00] mchou: hmm, is that the name of the episode?
[06:30:00] defaultro: lemme check
[06:30:00] xris: mchou: http://forevermore.net/files/mythtv_misc/hdtvscan2dd.pl.txt
[06:30:00] xris: so that's the script as it stands now.
[06:30:00] xris: runs, works, it's pretty smart.
[06:30:00] mchou: xris: OK.
[06:30:00] xris: now I just need to add some error checking and status messages.
[06:31:00] mchou: defaultro: no, it's called "three stories"
[06:31:00] defaultro: Three Stories
[06:31:00] mchou: xris: have fun :)
[06:31:00] xris: mchou: :)
[06:31:00] xris: as long as SOMETHING is out there to do this... and jarod and I can support it well enough.
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[06:32:00] Beirdo: ah well, bedtime
[06:32:00] bobc: I see two branches in the cvs tree – MAIN and HEAD and try to download MAIN assuming it is the upcoming 18.1 fixes only branch, but I get no the response "no tag MAIN". what should I use?
[06:32:00] defaultro: Good night
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[06:33:00] defaultro: is that a repeat mchou?
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[06:36:00] bobc: xris: is there any point to still having mythweb-old in the cvs tree?
[06:37:00] xris: not that I know of.
[06:37:00] xris: it's too bad it's cvs and not svn, or the whole thing could just be deprecated.
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[06:38:00] ** xris mumbles something about how cool trac + svn is. **
[06:40:00] bobc: ok, figured out it was release-0-18-fixes for the branch by remembering some of the commit messages.
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[06:41:00] xris: heh
[06:41:00] xris: kormoc: get off the computer and go pay attention to the redhead.
[06:41:00] xris: ;)
[06:42:00] kormoc: Hehe, I am :)
[06:42:00] kormoc: showing her myth and stuff :)
[06:42:00] xris: heh
[06:42:00] xris: we got the box up at work. was crashing for awhile with some audio problems, but then suddenly it started to work.
[06:43:00] kormoc: huh, odd
[06:43:00] xris: yup. but jon's happy now. just have to hook him up with winmyth tomorrow.
[06:43:00] xris: and find a longer ethernet cable.
[06:44:00] kormoc: coolness :)
[06:46:00] xris: what's "-Di386" mean in a gcc call?
[06:47:00] kormoc: I beleive it uses the standard defines for SystemV on the x86 platform.
[06:47:00] xris: ah
[06:47:00] kormoc: tho I beleive it's predefined by g++
[06:48:00] xris: that's myth's configure script doing that one, so I guess it's ok
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[07:16:00] tuxristo: xris, i reproduced your frontend hanging, no need to rebuild on your end yet, lemme try to figure out why it's happening
[07:17:00] xris: ok. good to know, I guess
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[07:17:00] kormoc: I've had issues with the frontend hanging on deletes until I restart the backend...
[07:17:00] mchou: kormoc: really???
[07:17:00] kormoc: yuppies
[07:18:00] mchou: I've heard reports but that has never happened to me.
[07:18:00] kormoc: but I havnt been able to reproduce the problem when I want to...]
[07:18:00] mchou: so what happens? Frontend just sits there, dead to the world?
[07:19:00] ** kormoc nods **
[07:19:00] xris: mchou: me, neither. people claim mythweb can cause the backend to crash repeatedly, but never seen it myself.
[07:19:00] kormoc: the backend logs the delete attempt
[07:19:00] kormoc: but just doesn't do anything
[07:19:00] mchou: what's fs you yousing for storage?
[07:19:00] kormoc: ext3
[07:19:00] mchou: you using*
[07:19:00] mchou: hmm.....
[07:20:00] mchou: I'm using xfs myself. I know when I switched deletes were faster and more well behaved.
[07:20:00] mchou: fron ext3 that is.
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[07:21:00] xris: xfs is much better for deletes.
[07:21:00] xris: kormoc: it can take 5–10 seconds to delete a couple-gig file in ext3
[07:21:00] mchou: just one of the few reasons I switched.
[07:21:00] kormoc: my files are 200 megs per halfhour
[07:21:00] kormoc: 400 megs a hour
[07:21:00] mchou: wow.
[07:21:00] mchou: how do you get them that small?
[07:22:00] kormoc: deletes take next to no time, and I wait about 5 min.
[07:23:00] xris: mchou: he has a bttv card and records in low res
[07:23:00] xris: didn't know they were that small, though
[07:23:00] kormoc: software encoder, bttv, width 480, height 480, codec mpeg-4, bitrate 1100, maxq-2, minq-15, max q difference-3, scale bitrate for framesize, enable interlaced dct encoding, enable interlaced motion estimation
[07:23:00] mchou: kormoc: heh, even when I used bttv mine werent small as 400MB/hr :)
[07:23:00] kormoc: sound mp3, 32000, mp3q 7, volume 90%
[07:23:00] Cardoe: read: LOTS OF Horsepower from the processor
[07:24:00] ** kormoc nods **
[07:24:00] mchou: CPU are cheap these days. :)
[07:24:00] kormoc: 55% of my p4 2.4 ghz when recording :)
[07:24:00] Cardoe: I get 2.2gb/hour
[07:24:00] Cardoe: from my pvr-250
[07:24:00] kormoc: but ya, I give it bout 5 min to delete the recording, it's not deleting, it's froze
[07:25:00] mchou: kormoc: maybe you have permissions problems :)
[07:25:00] kormoc: nope, restarting the backend
[07:25:00] kormoc: deletes instantly like normal
[07:25:00] mchou: I thought this was fixed long time ago.
[07:25:00] kormoc: no erros in the backend's logs or outputs in the term
[07:25:00] Cardoe: I have the same problem
[07:26:00] Cardoe: mchou: they keep saying it's fixed
[07:26:00] Cardoe: it's not.
[07:26:00] mchou: what versions of myth you guys using?
[07:26:00] Cardoe: 0.18
[07:26:00] kormoc: .18
[07:26:00] mchou: release or cvs?
[07:26:00] Cardoe: it's been happening since 0.13
[07:26:00] kormoc: release
[07:26:00] Cardoe: when I started using it
[07:26:00] Cardoe: mchou: don't tell me to switch to CVS
[07:26:00] Cardoe: cause I did a while back
[07:26:00] Cardoe: just for this.
[07:26:00] mchou: no, I was just asking.
[07:27:00] kormoc: .18 is the first release for myself that has done this
[07:27:00] Cardoe: cause they'd say it's fixed.
[07:27:00] Cardoe: and it wasn't
[07:27:00] Cardoe: well see... it's a modified problem
[07:27:00] Cardoe: because previous releases the frontend would lock up for like 5 min
[07:27:00] Cardoe: then kick back out with an error
[07:27:00] Cardoe: instead now it completely locks up until a backend restart
[07:28:00] mchou: Cardoe: maybe you should use cvs. There is a branch called 0.18-fixes :)
[07:28:00] kormoc: well, I'll see what .18.1 fixes :)
[07:29:00] Cardoe: mchou: no thanks.
[07:29:00] Cardoe: I'll just live with it.
[07:29:00] mchou: 0.18-fixes==0.18.1 :)
[07:29:00] Cardoe: but there's more going intoit
[07:30:00] Cardoe: and I doubt it's fixed
[07:30:00] Cardoe: because Chutt claims it's cause I'm using Gentoo
[07:30:00] kormoc: yeah, I was gonna wait for the release
[07:30:00] kormoc: ooh?
[07:30:00] ** kormoc wonders how that logic works **
[07:30:00] Cardoe: cause we don't use his CFLAGS
[07:30:00] Cardoe: kormoc: Chutt is anti-Gentoo
[07:30:00] kormoc: actually
[07:30:00] Cardoe: his logic is that we don't use his CFLAGS
[07:30:00] mchou: lol. Chut is probably right on this one.
[07:30:00] kormoc: the ebuild I did uses the myth autocflag thing
[07:30:00] Cardoe: but the MythTV ebuild actually uses sanier CFLAGS then he does
[07:31:00] kormoc: so if you used that, it uses myth defaul cflags.
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[07:31:00] kormoc: tho if we can figure out which flag is doing it, we can filter it all nice like
[07:31:00] kormoc: Cardoe, what's your cflags?
[07:32:00] Cardoe: basically -O2
[07:32:00] Cardoe: rather then O3
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[07:33:00] kormoc: just -O2?
[07:33:00] Cardoe: if it was anything other then file deleting stuff
[07:33:00] Cardoe: -O2 -march=pentium3 -pipe
[07:33:00] kormoc: did you use my mythtv-0.18-r1 ebuild?
[07:33:00] Cardoe: not yet
[07:33:00] ** kormoc nods **
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[07:33:00] kormoc: it fixes the inverted picture thing all nice like
[07:33:00] Cardoe: I'll use it
[07:34:00] Cardoe: along with a ton of other things
[07:34:00] mchou: Chut is not anti-Gentoo. He is against clueless gentoo user. Big difference.
[07:34:00] ** kormoc nods. **
[07:34:00] oneo: hey all – anyoen know the reason for clearing the buffer every time the channel is changed? is seems like it wouldnt be that big of a deal that you have other channel data on your buffer and it just slows down channel changing because you have to rebuffer every time
[07:35:00] xris: well, the pink bar on my HD stuff appears to be a driver issue.
[07:36:00] Cardoe: eradicator just basically stripped out the sed stuff from 0.17
[07:36:00] Cardoe: since it's auto done now
[07:36:00] Cardoe: and commited that
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[07:36:00] Cardoe: there's lots of issues with the builds
[07:36:00] Cardoe: and I have to go through the eclass
[07:36:00] tuxristo: oneo, i have been thinking about the dvd burn feature too
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[07:37:00] oneo: tux – have you done any work on it/
[07:38:00] tuxristo: basically the simplest way right now would be to use the already excistin "playlist" feature and to add an option to "burn this playlist" right under "play this playlist"
[07:38:00] ** xris lobs trout at ATI for crappy linux support... https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3226 **
[07:39:00] tuxristo: the rest is: porting mythtvburn to c++ to actually do the dvd menus and the actual burn
[07:39:00] tuxristo: and probably a mythtranscode or jobqueue style status screen wouldn't hurt either
[07:40:00] ** xris wishes someone would sanitize the ffmpeg code to help make nuvexport feasible. **
[07:40:00] tuxristo: at least two people have claimed to be working on all this but nothing has come of it so far
[07:41:00] oneo: yah i was thinking the same thing – in recordings theres a perfect place for it when you go to playlist options -> job options...right now it has begin transcoding and commercial flagging so adding a burn button would be perfect
[07:41:00] oneo: UI shouldnt be bad at all – just simple status stuff
[07:42:00] oneo: the worst part would probably be trying to parse the output from the mythtvburn programs
[07:42:00] tuxristo: i don' think it'd be that bad either to do the ui,
[07:43:00] tuxristo: mythtvburn i would rewrite in php first b4 trying to port it
[07:43:00] oneo: it is in php isnt it? its a mythweb plugin
[07:43:00] tuxristo: it does dumb things like write out data in files just to pass it from one poart of the program to another
[07:44:00] oneo: oh gotcha
[07:44:00] tuxristo: it is in php, but i think it needs a rewrite
[07:44:00] oneo: eh might as well start from scratch then
[07:44:00] tuxristo: to its credit it does make quite nifty dvd menus
[07:44:00] oneo: i might take a look at how they do the menus
[07:44:00] tuxristo: :)
[07:45:00] oneo: have you programmed for myth before?
[07:45:00] tuxristo: for that part it works better than the graphical utilities like dvd styler, etc
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[07:45:00] tuxristo: i have done a couple of patches for myth
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[07:47:00] oneo: it'd be a 3 part thing – checking for dvd/vcd compatability and transcoding if not, building the image file and then finally burning it
[07:49:00] tuxristo: i had mythtvburn working back in the 0.17 days – i have also used nuvexport and dvdstyler
[07:49:00] topping: interesting: http://advancedmediacommittee.typepad.com/emm . . . _nonmyt.html
[07:49:00] topping: probably been posted before
[07:50:00] tuxristo: there are problems with commercial cutting though, as i recall it there can be audio sync issues, but i think it's still worth doing
[07:52:00] mchou: topping: sigh. More ppl using that stupid NY Times article to buttress MPAA position.
[07:52:00] mchou: that NYT article has thoroughly been debunked.
[07:53:00] topping: think so? he's talking about the article, but he seems to have his head screwed on about the industry shoveling crap out the door
[07:53:00] mchou: like we all use myth to get "free tv", right.
[07:54:00] fryfrog: and what was the shit about getting pay per view for free?
[07:54:00] mchou: " In fact, most of what makes the device dangerous to the TV industry is software, not hardware."
[07:54:00] mchou: lol.
[07:54:00] topping: heh, true
[07:54:00] topping: (that he is backing up the mpaa position)
[07:55:00] topping: didn't spot that
[07:55:00] topping: i'm more interested in the cataloging and management at this point
[07:55:00] topping: mchou: have you tried torrentocracy yet?
[07:56:00] mchou: topping: I have no interest in torrent.
[07:56:00] mchou: I think torrent is slower than most mirrors for things like linux distros, etc.
[07:57:00] topping: yes, but the syndication of content via RSS is sweet
[07:57:00] topping: replace torrent with whatever you want, the combo is nice
[07:57:00] mchou: it is good however for "repairing" a big file that has a bad md5sum.
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[08:03:00] SlicerDicer-: hey mchou you around?
[08:03:00] mchou: what's up?
[08:03:00] SlicerDicer-: yay
[08:04:00] SlicerDicer-: hi! I love my mythtv setup btw I been recordling like mag
[08:04:00] SlicerDicer-: err wth....
[08:04:00] SlicerDicer-: recording like mad lol
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[08:04:00] kormoc: yoyo slicer
[08:04:00] SlicerDicer-: anyway I was wondering if you know of another place that sells stuff like newegg I am looking to buy a 15–17 inch flat panel
[08:04:00] mchou: yeah, good deal.
[08:05:00] SlicerDicer-: yoyo kormoc
[08:05:00] fryfrog: dell has a 20" widescreen lcd that has gotten really good reviews
[08:05:00] ** SlicerDicer- makes a yo-yo fly at kormoc and barely miss his forehead :P **
[08:05:00] topping: SlicerDicer-: did you check froogle?
[08:05:00] mchou: lol. I'm a firm believer in CRT. No flat panels for me.
[08:05:00] fryfrog: its like $700 ish, but if you get in on a lucky day you can get it for like $350
[08:05:00] ** topping saved $4000 on his monitor using froogle **
[08:05:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou: I hear that but my main moniter is going to be a apple 23inch :) so I want something for my other box that has a shitty compaq moniter on it
[08:05:00] mchou: I've got 2 22" CRTS on my desk.
[08:06:00] SlicerDicer-: :)
[08:06:00] SlicerDicer-: mine is a 21inch viewsonic and its dien
[08:06:00] mchou: dying?
[08:06:00] SlicerDicer-: its had 4 years of indentured servatude
[08:06:00] SlicerDicer-: yeah
[08:06:00] topping: that's pretty short
[08:06:00] topping: i'd be pissed
[08:06:00] mchou: monitor should last 7yrs.
[08:06:00] SlicerDicer-: its older :)
[08:07:00] SlicerDicer-: I got it used at a smokin deal
[08:07:00] SlicerDicer-: 21 inch for 150$ lol
[08:07:00] topping: haha
[08:07:00] SlicerDicer-: 4 years ago!
[08:07:00] topping: nice
[08:07:00] SlicerDicer-: that was dead dog cheap at the time
[08:07:00] mchou: lol, I got both my 22" for $89 apiece.
[08:07:00] SlicerDicer-: nice mchou
[08:07:00] xris: mchou: manufacturer's lifespan for a 19" or larger is 1–2 years
[08:07:00] kormoc: slicer, I love my 19" dell 1905fp, got it for $260 on a nice deal
[08:07:00] SlicerDicer-: anyway yeah I am upgrading going the apple display
[08:07:00] SlicerDicer-: I have always wanted one but that stupid ADC stopped me
[08:08:00] xris: kormoc: you suck. I should have taken that deal.
[08:08:00] mchou: xris: where do you get that???
[08:08:00] kormoc: xris, yeah, you should have :)
[08:08:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: slick
[08:08:00] topping: did you guys get have to navigate around all the aeron chairs on the way out the place you were buying those monitors from? :-)
[08:08:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, want me to let ya know if I see another deal like that?
[08:08:00] SlicerDicer-: well in 5 days I am getting my new moniter
[08:08:00] mchou: xris: even envision (a crappy brand) warrantees their 19" monitors for 3 yrs.
[08:08:00] kormoc: yeah?
[08:08:00] xris: mchou: same place where plasma displays were originally expected to last 2–3 years.. there's a REASON why warranties are only 1–3 years.
[08:08:00] SlicerDicer-: actually 2 new ones
[08:09:00] xris: mchou: not in the 90's they didn't.
[08:09:00] SlicerDicer-: btw kormoc want my old ones :) lol I will give them to you if you can squeeze life out of them
[08:09:00] topping: i got seven years out of my old viewsonic 21"
[08:09:00] SlicerDicer-: you live near enough by haha
[08:09:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, what are they?
[08:09:00] xris: things have gotten a lot better.
[08:09:00] ** kormoc is in need of better monitors for Ariel's box. **
[08:09:00] SlicerDicer-: well the 21 inch has issues and I am not a moniter expert the image will wobble on the edges if you know how to fix it or whatever its yours
[08:10:00] kormoc: hrm
[08:10:00] SlicerDicer-: viewsonic g810 its very nice 1280x1024 @ 85hz
[08:10:00] kormoc: yeah? just old?
[08:10:00] mchou: xris: http://www.envisiondisplay.com/support.asp?EP . . . =lcdwarranty
[08:10:00] SlicerDicer-: just I dont know why its flickering on the edges it just recently started about 4 months ago it does it at random
[08:10:00] SlicerDicer-: I dont normally see it at native resolution only at say gentoo livecd resolution
[08:10:00] topping: g810 should support 1880x1400, no?
[08:10:00] xris: mchou: I don't doubt you. call me jaded — I've been dealing with this kind of thing for about 8 years now.
[08:10:00] SlicerDicer-: topping: it goes a load more than that
[08:11:00] SlicerDicer-: it goes to 2408 or some crazy number IIRC
[08:11:00] topping: that's what i had mine at...
[08:11:00] SlicerDicer-: but the refreshrate would drive you batty
[08:11:00] xris: my 19" viewsonic is about 6 years old now and only just starting to show ghosting.
[08:11:00] topping: think mine was a p800
[08:11:00] topping: 70hz... the minimum
[08:11:00] mchou: topping: I'm sitting in my nice aeron chair right now :)
[08:11:00] topping: hehe
[08:11:00] SlicerDicer-: hey kormoc I dont know what the deal is with the moniter maybe it just does not like the low res I dont know
[08:11:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, I'm intrested in the g810, but I'd like to take a look at it first.
[08:11:00] topping: "if you buy two monitors, we'll GIVE YOU THIS CHAIR!!!"
[08:12:00] SlicerDicer-: 2048x1536 @ 61Hz thats the max
[08:12:00] SlicerDicer-: I knew it was some crazy number hah
[08:12:00] topping: my current monitor is set at 3840x2400
[08:12:00] kormoc: the other one is just gonna die ,like my 19" did, and I couldn't fix that so hope for this one is not good neather :)
[08:12:00] FITH: my p810 is finally dying after 7 or so years... Everyone in a while there's a cracking sound, and by smell and sound you can tell it's rewelding a cold solder joint somewhere inside... then it's fine for a week or two... I'm guessing one of these times it's going to blow :)
[08:12:00] xris: topping: that's insane.
[08:12:00] topping: yummy loads of pixels
[08:12:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[08:12:00] FITH: topping: Single tube/panel?
[08:13:00] topping: 22" panel
[08:13:00] topping: (single)
[08:13:00] FITH: Wow... *nice*! :)
[08:13:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: I really dont know I can also say the color looks like shit if you game but its fine if you just browse or whatever but if your going to run a game or look at pictures the colors bleed together
[08:13:00] SlicerDicer-: I dont know why it does that
[08:13:00] kormoc: hrm
[08:13:00] topping: has 4 DVI inputs to drive it, but i only use two
[08:13:00] topping: 25Hz
[08:13:00] kormoc: sounds like electron gun is a bit out of sync.
[08:13:00] SlicerDicer-: maybe
[08:13:00] SlicerDicer-: is it fixable?
[08:14:00] kormoc: if that's the problem, nope :P
[08:14:00] mchou: FITH: that sounds like a bad capacitor.
[08:14:00] mchou: should be easy to replace.
[08:14:00] SlicerDicer-: drat
[08:14:00] topping: you can test tube capacitors with your tounge
[08:14:00] mchou: lol.
[08:14:00] mchou: and then die?
[08:14:00] SlicerDicer-: well kormoc I guess its going out then eh?
[08:14:00] FITH: mchou: Yeah, except that a bad cap wouldn't recover from a complete short would it?
[08:14:00] topping: if you live, it's a bad cap
[08:14:00] kormoc: yeah, tis okay :)
[08:15:00] SlicerDicer-: hey mchou I took one of those stupid ass disposible cameras apart and zapped myself to hell and gone onetime never do that
[08:15:00] kormoc: flash caps are rockin powerful
[08:15:00] SlicerDicer-: it hurts heh
[08:15:00] mchou: lol.
[08:15:00] FITH: you can actually hear a loud snap, and the picture goes clean (well, it's 6 years old so it's a BIT fuzzy :)
[08:15:00] SlicerDicer-: yeah I know kormoc I learnt the hard way
[08:15:00] kormoc: heh
[08:15:00] FITH: lol
[08:15:00] SlicerDicer-: although I grabbed live 120 onetime too so me and electricty stay away from eachother now
[08:15:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: I had an old camera flash in high school that I used to play with like that. charge it up, and then cross the leads on the cap with a screwdriver.
[08:15:00] topping: we used to bring caps on the school bus as a kid
[08:16:00] xris: big POP, and a slightly melted screwdriver
[08:16:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: human flesh touched mine
[08:16:00] mchou: FITH: either a bad cap or your flyback transformer is shorting out.....
[08:16:00] SlicerDicer-: my human flesh....
[08:16:00] xris: SlicerDicer-: I was never that dumb.  ;)
[08:16:00] SlicerDicer-: xris: it was a mistake taking it apart :P
[08:16:00] FITH: Heh, I cut though a live circuit in the house at one point (the jagoff that did the basement here put 2 circuits into the same junction box), took out a 1/8" sphere out of my tinsnips
[08:16:00] xris: heh
[08:16:00] SlicerDicer-: kinda fell on my palm of hand
[08:16:00] mchou: FITH: a flyback transformer gets expensive to replace.
[08:16:00] xris: anyway, I'm headed to sleep. 'night all.
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[08:17:00] SlicerDicer-: well kormoc there is a computer shop down in bellvue if you want a crt they got some there for like 150$ that are used
[08:17:00] SlicerDicer-: I can give you the address if you want
[08:17:00] kormoc: sure
[08:17:00] FITH: mchou: Hmmm... I wonder why it "bounces back" for a week+ after each snap? Bah, I'll have to take it to someone who a) has a schematic and/or b) is willing to drain the high voltage to work on it
[08:17:00] SlicerDicer-: I buy alot of computer parts from them they are good people
[08:18:00] kormoc: (btw Slicer, xris is my co-worker/manager/boss at my new job, he's quite cool)
[08:18:00] SlicerDicer-: ahh cool
[08:18:00] SlicerDicer-: now kormoc beings you are working where you do I got a question for ya
[08:18:00] mchou: FITH: what do you mean by "bounces back?"
[08:18:00] kormoc: yeah?
[08:19:00] SlicerDicer-: I want to expand my harddrive capacity I am filling my current harddrives up with mythtv recordings
[08:19:00] ** kormoc nods **
[08:19:00] topping: SlicerDicer-: get a 3ware card
[08:19:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: lvm is your firend.
[08:19:00] SlicerDicer-: lvm?
[08:19:00] mchou: hell no. 3ware is overkill.
[08:19:00] topping: lvm is your fiend
[08:19:00] kormoc: SlicerDicer-, lvm is the new thing lately
[08:19:00] SlicerDicer-: ahh
[08:19:00] FITH: mchou: The image is unstable, flickering for a bit... then it goes black and *cracks* really quickly... Then it's stable for a week or two
[08:19:00] mchou: logical volume manager.
[08:19:00] kormoc: it's like a jbod raid level thats a lot more flexable and dynamic and cool
[08:20:00] topping: FITH: write it off... that's what mine was doing
[08:20:00] FITH: topping: heh, it's been doing this for about 1.5 years now :)
[08:20:00] kormoc: I'd recommend going with lvm, I agree
[08:20:00] topping: yow!
[08:20:00] SlicerDicer-: well kormoc I got a mini atx board so you know running my mythtv and it does a great job and I could put 2 more cards if I wanted in there
[08:20:00] mchou: FITH: sounds like flyback is shorting out (windings are starting to break)
[08:20:00] kormoc: 3ware cards are wonderful tihngs, I own one, but it's just too costly to get a card that supports that many devices
[08:20:00] ** kormoc nods **
[08:20:00] SlicerDicer-: btw I got that board on closeout price at the store with the moniters for 29bucks cant complain there :)
[08:21:00] FITH: mchou: Yeah, I figure it's a write off... I've gotten a lot of use out of it, and I've got a p225f now, so it's a emergency spare :)
[08:21:00] FITH: and/or second screen sometimes
[08:21:00] kormoc: lvm doesn't need any extra hardware beyond normal ide controlers
[08:21:00] mchou: FITH: nice.
[08:21:00] kormoc: and you can dynamically add and/or remove drives and what not
[08:21:00] kormoc: it's nice
[08:22:00] SlicerDicer-: kormoc: check this out http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128237 thats the board I got
[08:22:00] SlicerDicer-: well anyway I want to expand the space but the problem is I only have so much space in that case so something external would have to do for me
[08:22:00] kormoc: awesome for $29
[08:22:00] SlicerDicer-: hell yeah
[08:22:00] ** kormoc nods. **
[08:23:00] SlicerDicer-: what would you advise for external and storage I dont really want a usb drive I want something faster but I have no idea what to do
[08:23:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: go internal if at all possible. Externals will set you back a mint.
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[08:23:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou: I cant go internal :/
[08:24:00] SlicerDicer-: I got a mini atx case... its a compaq case living a new life totally gutted
[08:24:00] Cardoe: so does directfb work?
[08:24:00] Cardoe: anyone know?
[08:24:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: a new CPU case will be cheaper than incremental cost of external drive.
[08:24:00] Cardoe: MythTV+directfb
[08:24:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou: ok how do you solve the problem of having more than 2 harddrives to expand the harddrive capacity beyond a terabyte?
[08:25:00] mchou: get a extra ide card.
[08:25:00] SlicerDicer-: now I am a bit foggy on that how many harddrives can those hold?
[08:25:00] mchou: I have 8 drives in my P2 450Mhz :)
[08:25:00] mchou: 4 drives/card.
[08:26:00] mchou: well more than 1TB on my P2 :)
[08:26:00] SlicerDicer-: are there any others that can hold more than 4 drives I am seriously limited on pci slots
[08:26:00] SlicerDicer-: if I wanted to do a second pvr I would be SOL
[08:26:00] mchou: get a new mobo while you're at it :)
[08:26:00] SlicerDicer-: lol
[08:26:00] SlicerDicer-: I just did :)
[08:26:00] mchou: I'm not really joking. ATX is much better than mATX.
[08:27:00] SlicerDicer-: ohh I know
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[08:27:00] SlicerDicer-: I will more than likely shove my 2700+ with 1gb ram into my main recording box and just stick that 1.4 into storage space
[08:28:00] mchou: 1.4??
[08:28:00] SlicerDicer-: 1.4ghz cpu sorry
[08:28:00] SlicerDicer-: thats whats currently running my mythtv :)
[08:29:00] mchou: a Socket A mobo "no frills" new only costs $35 these days at Frys.
[08:30:00] mchou: well $35 + tax.
[08:30:00] SlicerDicer-: :)
[08:31:00] mchou: seriously, if I were you I'd just go that rout. mATX is useful only as frontends.
[08:31:00] SlicerDicer-: naw its just kinda crazy for me to replace my current setup main reason I went mATX is cause of how it would fit by my tv
[08:31:00] mchou: route*
[08:31:00] oneo: you guys have an htpc case or a regular computer case?
[08:31:00] mchou: so keep the matx as FE, move all storage on server....
[08:32:00] SlicerDicer-: is it possible to have it store the movies elsewhere on the network?
[08:32:00] SlicerDicer-: ahh good you just answered it
[08:32:00] mchou: SlicerDicer-: yup. Beautify of nfs or smb.
[08:32:00] SlicerDicer-: alright
[08:32:00] mchou: Beauty*
[08:33:00] SlicerDicer-: cause my 2700+ is bloated with how many harddrives it can hold :) 4 sata and 6 ata lol
[08:33:00] mchou: If you want to really blow your mind you can run the FE diskless off the network.
[08:34:00] mchou: I do that with mine.
[08:34:00] mchou: network boot root over nfs.
[08:35:00] SlicerDicer-: FE?
[08:35:00] mchou: frontend.
[08:35:00] SlicerDicer-: hmm
[08:35:00] mchou: less noise.
[08:35:00] SlicerDicer-: sounds like you got quite the setup
[08:35:00] mchou: yup. studied all the angles.
[08:36:00] SlicerDicer-: would 802.11g be enough or does it need to be hardwires?
[08:36:00] topping: xbox works well also... it's cheap and quiet
[08:36:00] topping: PITA to set up tho
[08:36:00] SlicerDicer-: topping: I dont own one so its kinda out of the question hehe
[08:36:00] topping: $150
[08:36:00] mchou: hardwire would be preferred.
[08:37:00] SlicerDicer-: goody.....
[08:37:00] SlicerDicer-: I would have loved to send a few boxes into my garage to cut down on heat
[08:37:00] SlicerDicer-: serious my computers put out so much heat between the 4 of them now that I can heat my main room in my house
[08:37:00] SlicerDicer-: without the electric heat running...
[08:38:00] mchou: yup. that's bad for the environment.
[08:38:00] SlicerDicer-: what you mean bad?
[08:38:00] SlicerDicer-: using that much power?
[08:38:00] mchou: yeah. also keep in mind things like ozone.....
[08:39:00] SlicerDicer-: I live in the woods my house reeks of ozone all day and its hydro power so thats not a problem to me :)
[08:39:00] mchou: topping: I'd hardly call the xbox "quiet"
[08:39:00] mchou: but the xboxII tooks nice.
[08:39:00] topping: i take it your fe's have no fans?
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[08:40:00] mchou: my FE has one CPU fan, that's it.
[08:40:00] mchou: wellm not counting PS :)
[08:40:00] topping: my xbox has one fan, period
[08:40:00] SlicerDicer-: mchou: there is no need for my systems to be quiet there is so many fans in this box that it drowns all the others out
[08:40:00] SlicerDicer-: I think there is 12 fans in this box
[08:41:00] mchou: my PS is a 185W
[08:41:00] topping: my ps doesn't have a fan
[08:42:00] mchou: the fan in xbox is extremely loud compared to CPU fans.
[08:42:00] topping: eh?
[08:42:00] SlicerDicer-: main reason for so many fans is people in washington state dont think "air conditioning" is a good idea so the days it does hit 90+ in seattle area I want to be able to use my damn computers lol
[08:42:00] topping: maybe if you have a habit of dropping it a lot
[08:42:00] mchou: my CPU fan is 90mm.
[08:42:00] topping: same here, speed controlled
[08:42:00] mchou: xbox fan is like what, 50mm?
[08:43:00] topping: 90
[08:43:00] topping: it's a very quiet box
[08:43:00] topping: the only thing quieter is probably a mac mini
[08:44:00] topping: or a diskless with no fans, but performance on those suxor
[08:44:00] mchou: topping: when the xbox first came out ppl complained about the noise.
[08:44:00] topping: hmm, maybe they've fixed it then
[08:44:00] mchou: no, they havent
[08:44:00] topping: i have a 1.4 and a 1.6, both have speed control
[08:44:00] topping: and they are both very quiet
[08:45:00] mchou: get a hauppauge MVP and it will be really quiet :)
[08:46:00] topping: yes, i've been wanting one of those!!
[08:46:00] mchou: hauppauge MVP does divx now......
[08:46:00] topping: nice
[08:46:00] topping: someone has a myth project for it now
[08:46:00] mchou: went to frys and saw that on the new packaging.
[08:47:00] mchou: not bad for $85.
[08:50:00] topping: http://mvpmc.sourceforge.net/idx.php?pg=main
[08:52:00] mchou: heh, nice. Just found the link for hacking in a SPDIF connection.
[08:52:00] topping: changes from 0.1.4 to 0.1.5:  – improved support for the new Hauppauge remote  – improved CIFS performance  – support for MythTV 0.18  – support for playing recordings off multiple MythTV backends  – fix for MythTV daylight savings bug  – initial theme support for changing fonts and widget colors  – add a progress bar to the file browser  – add a crude brightness control
[08:52:00] topping: 0.18!! nice
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[09:04:00] ** Cardoe is considering pushing 0.18 directly to stable rather then pressure cooking it. **
[09:04:00] SlicerDicer-: pressure cooking???
[09:05:00] Cardoe: i.e. letting it sit in testing for 30 days
[09:06:00] topping: let me sit on it. that'll be some pressure
[09:06:00] SlicerDicer-: haha
[09:06:00] SlicerDicer-: good words I do ay so Cardoe I like it pressure cooking :)
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[09:23:00] furfurfur: hey all. Anyone using an EPIA M10000 board with mythtv?
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[10:27:00] jwal: I am trying to build mythplugins-0.18 (mythvideo and mythdvd) against a mythtv installed to a custom prefix. It seems to be having problems finding headers (I'm not a C++ expert). ./configure has no --with-* options so what do I need to do?
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[10:37:00] oneo: jwal – do you have QT installed?
[10:37:00] jwal: oneo: The mythfrontend compiles and works fine
[10:41:00] oneo: then you're missing the prereqs to compile whatever plugin you're trying to compile
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[10:53:00] jwal: I think it is working now. I think the thing I did differently was specify a prefix to qmake as well as ./configure
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[11:37:00] Cardoe: any Gentoo users?
[11:41:00] adante: yep
[11:42:00] Cardoe: using the ebuilds?
[11:47:00] adante: yep
[11:47:00] Cardoe: do you use DVB?
[11:47:00] Cardoe: basically
[11:47:00] Cardoe: lemme see your USE flags for it
[11:47:00] Cardoe: emerge -pv mythtv
[11:49:00] Cardoe: please
[11:57:00] Cardoe: adante: ?
[12:06:00] furfurfur: hey there
[12:07:00] ** furfurfur uses gentoo w/DVB **
[12:07:00] furfurfur: USE="qt alsa mysql dvb"
[12:07:00] furfurfur: dvb USE flag will build with dvb and dvb-eit or whatever it is
[12:12:00] Cardoe: is that working for you?
[12:12:00] Cardoe: what kernel?
[12:18:00] furfurfur: It is working, yes – kernel is 2.6.11-gentoo-r5
[12:19:00] furfurfur: -r6 actually
[12:19:00] furfurfur: what prob are you getting?
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[12:21:00] furfurfur: Off to lunch, back in 30 mins if you stil need help
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[12:25:00] Cardoe: furfurfur: not
[12:25:00] Cardoe: just checking
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[12:49:00] adante_: Cardoe: sorry, dinner, back now :]
[12:49:00] adante_: my myth build flags: [ebuild R ] media-tv/mythtv-0.18 +X +alsa (-altivec) -arts -cle266 -debug -directfb +dvb -ieee1394 -jack +joystick -lcd -lirc +nls +nvidia +oggvorbis +opengl +oss +xv 0 kB
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[13:17:00] jemarcks: how do i erase my channel database and reload it with mythfilldatabase?
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[13:28:00] levon: jemarcks, rerun mythtv-setup, it will offer you the total destruction of your channel base ;)
[13:29:00] jemarcks: levon, ok. will that also remove my scheduled recordings?
[13:33:00] levon: not sure, I think so.
[13:34:00] levon: jemarcks, if not use the mysql console to clean up the database tables
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[16:08:00] EmergeTW: MythTV is created Mpeg2 .nuv files for my recordings, how can I convert one of those to a regular .mpeg2?
[16:08:00] laga: EmergeTW: mv <file>.nuv <file>.mpg
[16:09:00] ** levon slaps laga **
[16:09:00] ** laga tortures levon **
[16:09:00] levon: ouch
[16:09:00] ** levon hides **
[16:10:00] ** laga uses the levon-find-o-matic 2500 to locate him **
[16:10:00] EmergeTW: laga: but there is extra information that gets stored in the file that is not for mpeg2 stuff is there not?
[16:10:00] laga: EmergeTW: nope.
[16:10:00] EmergeTW: like skip points or whatever?
[16:10:00] laga: they're in the database
[16:11:00] levon: EmergeTW, the .nuv's represent the direct input which is being returned by dvb cards for example
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[16:12:00] levon: they can be of different formats, though, depending on what's being fed into by the card drivers
[16:12:00] CyberKnet: laga: You know there's a higher powered version of that out that can locate from 2x as far away? (levon-find-o-matic 5225OC)
[16:13:00] laga: CyberKnet: thanks for the hint, i'll upgrade when necessary.
[16:13:00] laga: CyberKnet: i wonder if it's cheaper if bundled with the "levon-behead-o-matic-9k"?
[16:13:00] CyberKnet: laga: 5225OC on account of some energy loss in the RF spectrum when increasing the doppler gain :| Battery pack is 5x laster and lasts for half as long
[16:14:00] CyberKnet: laga: today only, 25% off your total order and free shipping
[16:14:00] laga: that sucks. well, i could live with that if the increased range makes up for the lower lifetime.
[16:14:00] laga: CyberKnet: cool.
[16:14:00] ** laga calls ACME **
[16:14:00] jvs: hey guys, I got this error from out of nowhere
[16:14:00] jvs: Event socket closed. No connection to backend.
[16:15:00] jvs: ReadStringList timeout (quick).
[16:15:00] jvs: Remote encoder not responding.
[16:16:00] EmergeTW: has anyone here installed InterVideo WinDVD Creater? It sounds like it is farting when you click on the buttons
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[16:21:00] CyberKnet: EmergeTW: lmao
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[16:24:00] ole_schoola: it IS running on winderz box, now ain't it?
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[16:28:00] CyberKnet: ole_schoola: touche
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[17:04:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: busy today?
[17:04:00] Beirdo: of course
[17:04:00] CyberKnet: heh
[17:04:00] CyberKnet: Sure seems like it =)
[17:04:00] CyberKnet: Send me a privmsg if you get a few seconds and feel like a chat
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[17:11:00] jvs: anybody here already had this strange problem
[17:12:00] jvs: Couldn't read from file: ..../ringbuf1.nuv
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[17:16:00] jvs: I cannot even use mplayer to watch video now
[17:17:00] sc00p: something keeps changing my DBSchemaVer and I can't figure out what could be doing it... It should be at 1083 but periodically it changes to 1076... anybody know what could cause that?
[17:17:00] GreyFoxx: jvs: Out of disk space?
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[17:18:00] jvs: GreyFoxx: I dont think so
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[17:19:00] jvs: GreyFoxx: I cannot even stream /dev/video0 using mplayer now....I get a picture with 5 fps before it stops telling me the cpu is too lsow
[17:19:00] GreyFoxx: check your dmesg output and see if the driver is spitting out any errors
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[17:20:00] jvs: good idea
[17:24:00] jvs: GreyFoxx: mplayer also gives me two errors, but plays dvds fine
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[17:27:00] jvs: GreyFoxx: no, no errors
[17:27:00] jvs: it happend from one day to the other
[17:27:00] jvs: happened
[17:29:00] jvs: oh I got it!
[17:30:00] jvs: GreyFoxx: you reminded me of smthg...
[17:31:00] jvs: I have set the resolution too high
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[17:51:00] clintar: don't use mplayer for dvds
[17:51:00] clintar: use xine. it has menu support
[17:52:00] GreyFoxx: jvs: have you tried reloading the modules ?
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[17:53:00] jvs: GreyFoxx: works all fine...I have set the resolution too high...which was 768x576
[17:53:00] jvs: seems the card could not handle this
[17:53:00] jvs: although its a PAL B card, and this is the PAL B solution
[17:53:00] jvs: clintar: I will use xine :)
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[17:54:00] GreyFoxx: I use xine for DVD's and mplayer for other stuff
[17:55:00] jvs: hmm, you got an pvr250?
[17:56:00] GreyFoxx: a few of them
[17:56:00] jvs: did you compile in lirc support?
[17:56:00] GreyFoxx: Nope
[17:56:00] GreyFoxx: I don't use lirc for anything
[17:57:00] jvs: ok
[17:57:00] jvs: got the start command handy?
[17:57:00] jvs: that you entered in mythtv
[17:57:00] GreyFoxx: start command ?
[17:57:00] GreyFoxx: for what ?
[17:58:00] jvs: what do you set when running xine from mythtv?
[17:59:00] GreyFoxx: xine -V xv -p -f -Z -D -g --no-splash --stdctl -s DVD dvd://
[17:59:00] GreyFoxx: Odds are that is the default one that mythdvd puts in there
[17:59:00] jvs: greatoz :)
[17:59:00] GreyFoxx: I don't remember specifically setting anything
[17:59:00] GreyFoxx: but I might have set it a while back
[18:00:00] ** jvs is away: mythtv lirc **
[18:00:00] GreyFoxx: I see so many people struggle with lirc. I'm glad I avoided that
[18:01:00] jvs: hehe
[18:01:00] jvs: so did I
[18:01:00] jvs: dont ask why the hell it works now
[18:01:00] jvs: it suddenly worked from one reboot to the other
[18:01:00] jvs: since then I havent touched it :)
[18:02:00] GreyFoxx: I use a custom driver with my remote that just makes it look like a usb keyboard/mouse.
[18:03:00] GreyFoxx: but with the vast majority of remotes you are stuck with lirc
[18:05:00] jvs: it works now :)
[18:05:00] jvs: although mplayer does not react...
[18:05:00] jvs: I need to fix this
[18:05:00] jvs: and some other stuff
[18:05:00] jvs: like the gamepad
[18:06:00] jvs: but I will link to the mythtv lirc file
[18:06:00] jvs: then all should work
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[18:21:00] Servo888: sweet – the modules helped.
[18:22:00] xris: I think I just figured out what my first bounty request for mythtv will be.
[18:24:00] jvs: wooo
[18:24:00] jvs: GreyFoxx: works fine
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[18:25:00] jvs: Xine plays the menus, listening to my lirc commands
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[18:48:00] EmergeTW: I am having my dvd software do some automatic detection of scene changes, it is taking freaking forever
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[18:48:00] EmergeTW: and I just know that only one scene it will pick will be right
[18:48:00] EmergeTW: and I am going to have to fix it all myself anyway =\
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[19:08:00] EmergeTW: OMG
[19:08:00] EmergeTW: it made 644 scenes =\
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[19:09:00] Tommck: I've been experiencing lots of problems with choppy recordings lately during good weather on my pcHDTV-3000 card. Is anyone else experiencing this?
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[19:40:00] xris: getting some weirdness with the mythbox I set up here at work.. when you first try to view live tv, you get about 3 seconds, and then everything hangs. video times out after about 10–15 seconds and drops you back to the menu.. if I restart mythbackend, everything works normally. Obviously some sort of on-boot conflict. has anyone run into this before?
[19:41:00] Tommck: xris – I was having timeout/lockup problems that turned out to have something to do with generating preview images..
[19:41:00] laga: it's probably a problem with the module loading?
[19:41:00] Tommck: nothing with live tv though
[19:41:00] xris: Tommck: you're not the only one with the thumbnail preview thing.. tuxristo is working on it.
[19:41:00] laga: xris: compare lsmod before and after livetv.
[19:42:00] xris: laga: that was my thought. but restarting the backend doesn't actually load new modules.
[19:42:00] xris: and it *works*.. but only for a few seconds.
[19:42:00] Tommck: xris – funny thing was that I just decided to enable it for no reason... was trying to get something else working... my front end was down for 4 days :)
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[19:42:00] xris: Tommck: in my case, I don't use it (I use the live preview), but it still tries to generate the thumbnails if you tell it to.
[19:42:00] laga: xris: i wonder if the backend accesses the cards on starting. i dont think so.
[19:43:00] xris: laga: yeah, no clue. it's odd. not that we'll be rebooting this box very often.
[19:43:00] Tommck: xris – I never saw the point to the previews anyway... takes too long to actually see anything in the recording IMO
[19:43:00] xris: maybe I should just add a backend-restart command into rc.local. heh.
[19:43:00] laga: hehe
[19:43:00] xris: Tommck: well, better than a thumbnail, imho. heh.
[19:43:00] j-rod: hey xris, I had a feeling some additional good for myth users might come from getting you that air2pc card. I like the script. :)
[19:43:00] xris: heh
[19:43:00] laga: i'm a DVB user since today. :)
[19:43:00] j-rod: I know I was confused as all hell the first few times I ran scans
[19:44:00] xris: I need to finish it up and add some error checking and user prompting if more than one input source matches.
[19:44:00] xris: but I definitely think we should get it put into your guide.
[19:44:00] Tommck: laga – new card?
[19:44:00] laga: Tommck: nope. hacked set top box with an ethernet connection – the patch was posted to the -dev ml by levon
[19:44:00] laga: he did a great job ;)
[19:44:00] xris: mchou had a goldmine in info about how to get things hooked up. was just a matter of turning his shell script into something a little smarter.
[19:45:00] Tommck: wow.. neat
[19:45:00] ** laga is currently compiling myth cvs with the patch on his production box **
[19:45:00] laga: Tommck: yeah.
[19:45:00] xris: laga: you suck. wish my Dish box would do that.
[19:45:00] laga: xris: hehe
[19:45:00] laga: the nice thing is: you get a set top box with dvb-card functionality and cam-support for like 50–60 euro. and some work.
[19:45:00] laga: took me 17 or 18 hours to get the frigging thing to boot.
[19:46:00] xris: damn. still nice.
[19:46:00] laga: yep
[19:46:00] laga: and linux on $(insert_exotic_architcture) rocks anyway.
[19:46:00] xris: maybe someday there'll be an easy way to hook a Dish receiver up... or plug its smartcard into a real dvb card. legal grey area or not, I want access to the stuff I pay for.
[19:47:00] laga: but what really bothered me: you have to extract some firmware from the original software. and this is only possible with windows software, and they dont open source it due to IP-issues.
[19:47:00] laga: so i had to give the firmware to some windows guy :/
[19:49:00] xris: lame
[19:49:00] laga: yep
[19:49:00] xris: could use wine. heh.
[19:49:00] xris: or get kormoc to do it with his xover plugin.
[19:49:00] laga: well, there is a different way...using a patched kernel form the original software..but you cant access it without windows. sucks :)
[19:49:00] laga: i tried wine.
[19:50:00] laga: it worked almost, but i couldn't choose a folder to store the firmware :/
[19:50:00] kormoc: what bout rewind or cedega or xover office plugin?
[19:50:00] kormoc: is it a w16 or w32?
[19:50:00] laga: w32
[19:50:00] laga: dunno, i only know that it didnt work
[19:50:00] kormoc: any idea what call it blocked on?
[19:50:00] laga: and after 7 hours of work, i didnt care.. ;)
[19:50:00] kormoc: hehe
[19:50:00] laga: nope, sorry
[19:50:00] kormoc: fair nuff
[19:51:00] laga: yep. 8 hours of boring school and 7 hours of messing with stupid bootloader stuff, i would have sold my mom for the firmware
[19:51:00] kormoc: well, if ya ever wanna try it again, let me know, I'd like to pla with it :)
[19:51:00] laga:
[19:51:00] laga: kormoc: thanks, i'll probably come back to you ;)
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[20:04:00] Bogus8: is `modprobe lirc_i2c` essentially do the same as `modprobe ivtv` ??
[20:04:00] Bogus8: is/does
[20:05:00] j-rod: no
[20:05:00] j-rod: one loads an lirc module, one loads the ivtv module
[20:05:00] j-rod: but depending on your modules.conf setup, one or the other might trigger the other as well
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[20:07:00] Bogus8: j-rod: guess that's what I was after.. i see ivtv has loaded so I am assuming I don't need to run the other
[20:07:00] j-rod: lsmod | grep lirc
[20:07:00] j-rod: if you see lirc_i2c, then no, you don't need to modprobe lirc_i2c also
[20:08:00] Bogus8: actually I modprob lirc_i2c and ivtv gets loaded also
[20:08:00] j-rod: or that
[20:09:00] j-rod: I presume you have this in modprobe.conf:
[20:09:00] j-rod: install lirc_i2c /sbin/modprobe ivtv; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install lirc_i2c
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[20:09:00] Bogus8: j-rod: correct.. that makes sense
[20:09:00] j-rod: which says "when I go to load lirc_i2c, first load ivtv, then load lirc_i2c, since lirc_i2c needs ivtv"
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[20:14:00] j-rod: bad kopete, no biscuit, time to play with xchat for a while...
[20:14:00] Esotericisms: how do I know what lines need to be added to modules.conf for my WinTV Go card?
[20:17:00] Bogus8: j-rod: hey, thanks for explaining that modprobe stuff... it helps a bit... guess I'm still just waiting for drivers that make tuner type 39 audio work still ;)
[20:18:00] j-rod: no prob
[20:18:00] j-rod: though tuner audio on a type 39 tuner should work fine...
[20:19:00] Esotericisms: nm on my question
[20:20:00] Esotericisms: fixed it
[20:21:00] Esotericisms: do I need to do anything with the "Channel Editor"
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[20:22:00] Bogus8: j-rod: I've tried coax and s-video (my personal pref.) and can't get any audio
[20:23:00] Bogus8: Esotericisms: I *think* that's only if you want to edit which channels are in the guide
[20:23:00] Bogus8: been a while since I bothered looking at that though
[20:26:00] Esotericisms: ok ...
[20:27:00] Esotericisms: I wonder how long mythfilldatabase takes ... :/
[20:28:00] Esotericisms: 'mythfilldatabase' just keeps on repeating ... anyone?
[20:28:00] Bogus8: Esotericisms: it does that
[20:28:00] Bogus8: it will eventually finish... it does look odd and I wondered what was going on also... but eventually it actually finished
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[20:29:00] mshields: if you look at the output it's fetching data 1 day at a time
[20:29:00] j-rod: Bogus8, what card?
[20:29:00] mshields: so it probably loops about 14 times :)
[20:29:00] Bogus8: mshields: ahh.. that helps make sense ;)
[20:29:00] Bogus8: j-rod: PVR 150
[20:30:00] j-rod: it should work
[20:30:00] j-rod: one way or another
[20:30:00] j-rod: post log output to pastebin, lemme see what I can see
[20:30:00] Esotericisms: ah ok ...
[20:30:00] Bogus8: j-rod: :( it doesn't... been fighting with it off and on for about a week
[20:30:00] Esotericisms: gotcah
[20:30:00] Esotericisms: gotcha
[20:31:00] Bogus8: j-rod: I got it all here http://www.shspvr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7980
[20:31:00] Bogus8: there is a second post with the latest with driver 0.3.4a
[20:31:00] Esotericisms: how do you renew the subscription/
[20:33:00] j-rod: er, what input are you trying to record from?
[20:33:00] j-rod: if svid, then the tuner version means nothing
[20:33:00] Bogus8: s-video/audio in
[20:33:00] Bogus8: audio in on PVR card
[20:34:00] j-rod: hm...
[20:34:00] j-rod: I should probably see about getting a retail PVR-150
[20:34:00] Esotericisms: how do you renew the subscription for DataDirect?
[20:35:00] j-rod: Eso: go to labs.zap2it.com
[20:35:00] iggy: Esotericisms: login to the website, and take a little quiz
[20:35:00] Esotericisms: ah and that will extend it even longer then what I have?
[20:35:00] iggy: 6 months at a time I think
[20:35:00] laga: shit. i'm suffering from the stupid qt-no-buttons-bug.
[20:35:00] Esotericisms: thats cool
[20:35:00] iggy: you have to keep logging in, and taking the different quizzes
[20:36:00] mshields: laga: shift-enter
[20:36:00] laga: mshields: thanks. you rock.
[20:38:00] mshields: Bogus8, does this help: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/devel/20140
[20:39:00] ** Bogus8 reads **
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[20:41:00] Esotericisms: 'You probably should modify the Master Server settings in the setup program and set the proper IP address. error resceduling id -1 in ScheduleRecording::signalChange'
[20:42:00] Esotericisms: anyone?
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[20:42:00] Esotericisms: that is what is at the end, when I run 'mythfilldatabase'
[20:44:00] Esotericisms: it looks like it has an issue connecting to the backend server ... I don't have a backend server ... this is my backend and my frontend
[20:44:00] Esotericisms: anyone?
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[20:45:00] Bogus8: mshields: very interesting read... problem for me is I'm not quite sure how to load the drivers (I used the Jarod how-to to get where I am today)
[20:45:00] Bogus8: I have tried to load newer drivers but dmesg said they were still the older drivers
[20:45:00] j-rod: if you're switching to source, remove the rpm installed ivtv drivers
[20:46:00] Bogus8: I'm fairly in-experienced with linux as far as loading drivers (I did have an IDE card that gave me hell and I had to compile kernels and drivers and all sorts of stuff... but it was still ONE driver as opposed to what looks like a heap of stuff with ivtv)
[20:46:00] Bogus8: j-rod: so just rpm -e ivtv ?
[20:46:00] j-rod: rpm -e ivtv-kmdl-`uname -r`
[20:46:00] Bogus8: ahh
[20:47:00] j-rod: then install from source to your hearts content and the source one will get used
[20:47:00] j-rod: the kmdl packages use a module path that supercedes a source install
[20:47:00] Bogus8: AH!
[20:47:00] j-rod: (btw, j-rod = Jarod)
[20:48:00] Bogus8: what about the firmware package and the plain 'ivtv' package
[20:48:00] Bogus8: j-rod: AHHH ... well let me thank you VERY much for a well laid out how-to
[20:48:00] j-rod: :)
[20:48:00] laga: j-rod: ;)
[20:48:00] j-rod: you can leave those installed, shouldn't hurt anything
[20:49:00] Bogus8: i expected lots of hangups and issues and really didn't have any (other than this which isn't your fault what so ever)
[20:49:00] laga: j-rod: BTW. do you have any idea about this? my rpm wont execute any scriptlets anymore :/
[20:50:00] laga: uh-oh. seems like updating from 0.17 to current CVS wasnt a good idea. it cant upgrade the database.
[20:51:00] laga: http://pastebin.ca/11528 <- any suggestions?
[20:51:00] Bogus8: error: Failed dependencies:
[20:51:00] Bogus8: ivtv-kmdl-1:0.3.4a-85.rhfc3.at is needed by (installed) ivtv-0.3.4a-85.rhfc3.at.i386
[20:51:00] j-rod: laga, that ain't pretty...
[20:52:00] j-rod: ah, okay, uninstall ivtv too then
[20:52:00] Bogus8: ahh.. that's just the latest driver no prob
[20:52:00] laga: j-rod: failed scriptlets or mythfrontend? ;=
[20:52:00] laga: ;)
[20:52:00] j-rod: heh, the scriptlets
[20:52:00] xris: j-rod: you notice your new channel status?
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[20:53:00] laga: j-rod: yep. it isnt. doing an apt-get --fetch-only and rpm -Uhv --no-scriplets /var/cache/apt/archives/* aint pretty.
[20:53:00] Esotericisms: where does /etc/sysconfig/mythbackend, go in debian?
[20:53:00] ** Beirdo high-fives xris **
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[20:53:00] Beirdo: well done
[20:53:00] j-rod: xris, yeah, I noticed that this morning
[20:53:00] allgood: hi all
[20:53:00] xris: I asked o_cee to do that for you, since you more any most anyone else here deserves it. heh.
[20:53:00] allgood: the dvb scan isn't filling the PIDs on the channels... I'm using mythtv 0.18
[20:53:00] j-rod: stupid question that I should probably just Google: what the hell does it mean, exactly? :)
[20:53:00] allgood: can somebody help me?
[20:54:00] Beirdo: j-rod: nothing in particular, generally
[20:54:00] j-rod: heh
[20:55:00] xris: just means you're someone to be listened to
[20:55:00] Bogus8: the voice? "+"?
[20:55:00] Bogus8: in moderated channels those with voices are the only ones that can talk
[20:55:00] Bogus8: in open channels it's a status symbol
[20:55:00] Bogus8: means your better than the rest ;)
[20:55:00] j-rod: Listen to me!!! :)
[20:55:00] Beirdo: :)
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[20:55:00] Beirdo: j-rod: I'm sure enough people should listen to you anyways
[20:56:00] xris: Bogus8: and in gaim, the +v people sort to the top of the user list, so I can know when the important people are logged in.  ;)
[20:56:00] Beirdo: if not, take a baseball bat to them :)
[20:56:00] Beirdo: heh
[20:56:00] laga: in #linux.de, it means that you're an idiot. no offense. ;)
[20:57:00] Beirdo: hehe
[20:57:00] Bogus8: j-rod: quick question... given that I followed your guide... to compile/install drivers from source I just need to reboot(my way of unloading drivers) make, make install, modprobe new drivers?
[20:57:00] Bogus8: xris: most clients do that I believe
[20:57:00] Beirdo: here that's noted by the absense of +v and by getting banned :)
[20:57:00] Beirdo: heh
[20:57:00] laga: seems like i royally fucked up my mythtv install.
[20:57:00] ** laga is waiting for the standing ovations **
[20:57:00] Beirdo: and by statements like that :)
[20:57:00] ** kormoc has no +v **
[20:57:00] ** kormoc scratches his eye. **
[20:57:00] kormoc: Well, I'll be gosh darnet. I am a moran.
[20:58:00] Beirdo: I can't die dead enough...
[20:58:00] Bogus8: I like that reverse use of the voice... given to those who earn it by being really stupid... like the ol' dunce cap
[20:58:00] xris: kormoc: with spelling like that, you're coming close.
[20:58:00] Beirdo: heheh
[20:58:00] Bogus8: I was hoping that was on purpose *gulp*
[20:59:00] laga: xris: i actually didnt understand what he said ;)
[20:59:00] kormoc: I'm hoping that was on purpose too :P
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[21:00:00] Esotericisms: hey I am trying to get mythbackend setup so that it will run on startup ...
[21:00:00] Esotericisms: I am using debian ... can anyone help?
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[21:03:00] j-rod: Bogus8, yeah, that would work
[21:04:00] Beirdo: mmmmm, Megadeth
[21:04:00] Beirdo: makes fighting with PowerPoint all that more bearable
[21:04:00] Bogus8: j-rod: cool... any idea why I have to change perms on /dev/video0 after a reboot... all of a sudden I started needing to do that to launch the backend with my user
[21:05:00] xris: Bogus8: odd.
[21:05:00] j-rod: not odd
[21:05:00] j-rod: expected. :)
[21:06:00] j-rod: the backend starts before your user is logged in
[21:06:00] xris: in my case, I have to restart the backend (as root is fine, though) after booting or some buffer overflows and the frontend can't watch more than a few seconds of tv before the video freezes and kicks me back to the main menu.
[21:06:00] laga: Bogus8: i've started drinking because i need to fiddle with mysql now.
[21:06:00] tuxristo: xris, Tommck: I posted the patch to fix "GeneratePreviewPixmaps causing frontend to hang" to the dev list this morning
[21:06:00] j-rod: on RH/FC, device nodes all start out owned by root, then get chowned at login time
[21:06:00] Bogus8: j-rod: I'm still loading my ivtv drivers manually AND the backend manually
[21:06:00] xris: tuxristo: cool
[21:06:00] laga: err.
[21:06:00] laga: i mean beirdo, of course
[21:06:00] laga: stupid client
[21:06:00] laga: ;)
[21:06:00] Bogus8: laga: wondered ;)
[21:07:00] laga: hehe
[21:07:00] laga: Bogus8: you're not AA ;)
[21:07:00] Beirdo: laga: get drinking
[21:07:00] Bogus8: laga: all I could think of was "umm ok, good for you"
[21:07:00] Beirdo: :)
[21:07:00] laga: Bogus8: hehe. sorry ;)
[21:07:00] Bogus8: np
[21:07:00] laga: Beirdo: ;)
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[21:11:00] Bogus8: j-rod: woot! I got audio... it sounds like shit but I got something... all static very little actual sound
[21:11:00] Bogus8: and now my pictures all wacked.... lines, zoomed in
[21:11:00] Bogus8: and now it's studdering
[21:11:00] ** laga hates computers. **
[21:12:00] tuxristo: xris, yeah, turns out it needed an extra "finfo.exists()" call in the backend otherwise the backend would try to get the send an empty stringlist – which fails, and the remote frontend would just sit there ... waiting for the stringlist – i don't know how i missed it b4 but it's fixed now ... hopefully it gets committed soon
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[21:13:00] xris: oops
[21:13:00] ** laga really hopes for the dbox2-patch to get committed soon **
[21:15:00] Esotericisms: when I got to watch tv all I get is rainbow of colors and fuzz at the top
[21:15:00] laga: uptime: 37 days. *reboot*
[21:15:00] laga: i know it wont fix anything, but it's worth trying.
[21:16:00] tuxristo: xris, basically the new way of making previews can send a QUERY_PIXMAP_LASTMODIFIED to the backend to see if the pixmap is out of date (because of commflagging or a bookmark) and refresh it. I have a patch for mythweb as well.
[21:18:00] Esotericisms: when I got to watch tv all I get is rainbow of colors and fuzz at the top
[21:18:00] Bogus8: uptime
[21:18:00] Bogus8: 15:18:08 up 70 days
[21:18:00] laga: Bogus8: we had a power outage ;)
[21:18:00] Esotericisms: wen I go to watch TV all I get is static bar at the top and the screen is all sorts of rainbow colors
[21:18:00] iggy: 12:51:51 up 357 days, 22:36, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[21:18:00] Bogus8: laga: yeah, that's the only reason i'm only at 70 :p
[21:19:00] laga: 10:18pm up 55 days 19:12, 2 users, load average: 0.19, 0.15, 0.10 <- our dedicated server. i had to reboot it because it didnt respond anymore. the stupid phpnuke got too much traffic.
[21:19:00] laga: Bogus8: hehe
[21:19:00] j-rod: uptime
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[21:19:00] j-rod: 8:19pm up 253 days, 21:10
[21:19:00] iggy: we've almost got a year on that thing, it needs a new kernel, but I just can't bring myself to do it
[21:19:00] laga: iggy: hehe
[21:19:00] Bogus8: LOL
[21:19:00] laga: iggy: gotta love power outages ;)
[21:19:00] laga: j-rod: nice.
[21:20:00] laga: we had approx. 100 days on this machine before i had to reboot it.
[21:20:00] j-rod: we moved our data center, that was the last time several boxes were bounced
[21:20:00] Esotericisms: alright so no one is wanting to help
[21:20:00] Bogus8: I'm thinking of going solar for my power (with battery of coarse)
[21:20:00] Bogus8: I got the pannels just nothing to do with them
[21:20:00] j-rod: Eso, its not that nobody wants to help, just nobody knows how to help
[21:21:00] j-rod: if I had a clue what to do, I would help
[21:21:00] laga: yep. and my problems are more important than yours anyway. ;)
[21:21:00] j-rod: sorry
[21:21:00] Beirdo: iggy: I feel for ya, I had my colo box at almost 2 years when I removed it from the colo
[21:21:00] Esotericisms: :/
[21:22:00] iggy: Beirdo: you mean j-rod of course
[21:22:00] laga: 22:22:04 up 5 min, 2 users, load average: 3.03, 1.89, 0.81
[21:22:00] laga: >:!
[21:22:00] Beirdo: actually, I meant you, iggy, but hehe, whatever
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[21:23:00] iggy: Beirdo: but I'm feeling marvelous (uptime wise, everything else is pure shit though)
[21:24:00] Beirdo: yeah, not wanting to upgrade kernels..  :)
[21:24:00] iggy: oh
[21:25:00] iggy: yeah, I'm not that worried about it, it's not some all important box or anything
[21:25:00] iggy: just a client's spam server
[21:29:00] Esotericisms: anyone know why I would just get static and no picture?
[21:30:00] TheAsp: how do you tell if xvmc is actually working?
[21:30:00] Baylink: Lots of reasons, eso.
[21:30:00] Baylink: Usually, wrong tuner.
[21:30:00] Baylink: How new is your card?
[21:30:00] Esotericisms: brand new
[21:30:00] laga: Beirdo: i saw something that allowed you to upgrade the kernel while the machine wa srunning. it was for kernel 2.6 pre something, iirc.
[21:30:00] Beirdo: hehe
[21:30:00] Beirdo: I wouldn't trust it
[21:31:00] laga: neither would i
[21:31:00] Esotericisms: Baylink, WinTV Go (i know it isn't the best) ...
[21:31:00] Esotericisms: debian recognizes the card any everything
[21:31:00] Esotericisms: I just can't seem to get a picture
[21:32:00] Esotericisms: do I need to run the line from my cable box to my myth box or can I just run it from the wall?
[21:32:00] Bogus8: Esotericisms: you should be able to just run it from the wall
[21:33:00] Esotericisms: I have tried just watching tv with myth and xawtv
[21:33:00] Esotericisms: both I just get static
[21:33:00] Beirdo: are you using digital cable?
[21:34:00] Bogus8: Beirdo: even "digital cable" isn't ALL digital ... most of the channels are still analog
[21:34:00] Beirdo: whatever, that depends on the provider
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[21:34:00] xris: tuxristo: if you happen to know how to make mythweb NOT crash backends when querying pixmaps, that'd be sweet, too.
[21:34:00] Bogus8: hmm, i've never heard of an all digital provider
[21:34:00] Baylink: For sufficiently small values of "most".
[21:35:00] Baylink: Bright Hose Tampa Bay has about twice as many digital channels as analog
[21:35:00] Baylink: xris: ?
[21:35:00] Esotericisms: I do have digital cable
[21:35:00] Esotericisms: but I have cable ready tvs that work just fine without a digital cable box
[21:35:00] Baylink: So this should too.
[21:35:00] Esotericisms: I know ...
[21:36:00] Baylink: Do you find things in your syslog from boot that suggest the card is being initialized?
[21:36:00] Bogus8: Esotericisms: exactly, you should be able to get the same picture/channels on the mythbox
[21:36:00] Esotericisms: what can I look at to help figure out why it isn't working?
[21:36:00] Baylink: (see above :-)
[21:36:00] allgood: my dvb card record programs... but I can't change the channel on livetv
[21:36:00] xris: Baylink: people have been reporting that mythweb crashes the backend.. I can't reproduce it, but it happens to a lot of people. something dealing with the new thumbnail generation code.
[21:36:00] Esotericisms: let me look at my syslog
[21:36:00] allgood: i have 2 cards... one bt878 and one dvb capture card
[21:36:00] allgood: only bt878 works on livetv
[21:36:00] allgood: can somebody help me?
[21:37:00] Beirdo: xris: happens all the time here
[21:39:00] Esotericisms: yeah my card is initialized ... ... I hooked up a composite rca line
[21:39:00] Esotericisms: and I get videa
[21:39:00] Esotericisms: video
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[21:40:00] Esotericisms: so it is something else
[21:41:00] topping: is there a way to import existing mp3s into the musicmetadata table via id3tags?
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[21:45:00] Esotericisms: alright ...
[21:45:00] Esotericisms: my wintv go card works ...
[21:45:00] Esotericisms: if I hook up a composite video I get signal ....
[21:45:00] Esotericisms: however my "tv" doesn't work
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[21:48:00] topping: ah, i see, add music to folder, then "scan for new music"
[21:49:00] topping: heh, that picture of a barcode scanner made me think it was for UPC symbols
[21:52:00] tuxristo: xris, that would be sweet, i know.
[21:52:00] Esotericisms: I am sad
[21:53:00] tuxristo: xris, it was crashing for me back when you had that time out lowered from 20,, but i haven't seen it crash since then, and i don't even run it in an enless loop, so i would know if it crashed, but i can't fix it if i can't make it crash :( and even then ...
[21:59:00] xris: tuxristo: yeah, I know. that's a big part of the problem
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[21:59:00] tuxristo: xris, in any case, the patch to mythweb is at: http://irstudio.ucalgary.ca/download/mythweb- . . . 0325.diff.gz
[21:59:00] xris: can you email it to me?
[21:59:00] Beirdo: or put it on trac :)
[22:00:00] xris: I don't use the mythweb trac, though
[22:00:00] Beirdo: not time like the present to start :)
[22:00:00] Beirdo: hehe
[22:00:00] Beirdo: no rather
[22:00:00] xris: it's annoying since I would need to manually import the svn repository every time a commit goes in.
[22:01:00] Beirdo: you don't have that automated yet? :)
[22:02:00] Beirdo: you'd almost think you had a life or something
[22:02:00] Beirdo: I'm sure j-rod could help you with automating that :)
[22:02:00] xris: yeah. or I could just use his repository for mythweb
[22:03:00] j-rod: I haven't got around to getting things to sync yet, actually...
[22:03:00] Beirdo: heh
[22:03:00] Beirdo: damn
[22:03:00] j-rod: been trying to have a life too. :)
[22:03:00] j-rod: (actually, been more busy w/this -fixes branch)
[22:03:00] Beirdo: just what kinda geeks are we anyways?
[22:03:00] j-rod: very, very sad ones.
[22:04:00] j-rod: okay, wtf...
[22:04:00] laga: j-rod: ack.
[22:04:00] j-rod: I upgrade packages w/an -Fvh, and myththemes goes bye-bye
[22:04:00] xris: j-rod: we should investigate svk and see if isaac would be willing to put the svk hooks into cvs.
[22:04:00] j-rod: I don't see a Provides: for myththemes anywhere in the spec...
[22:04:00] j-rod: xris, yeah, definitely
[22:04:00] xris: then he can have his cvs, and we can have svn, and everyone is happy
[22:05:00] xris: having a life is nice, though.
[22:05:00] Esotericisms: anyone have an idea on what tuner the wintv go card uses?
[22:05:00] xris: just bring me some nice weather so my deck can dry so I can restain it.
[22:05:00] xris: Esotericisms: it's a bttv one, no?
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[22:05:00] j-rod: yeah, having a life outside computers is a good thing, or so my wife tells me... :)
[22:05:00] Beirdo: heh
[22:05:00] j-rod: Found out yesterday that kid #2 is gonna be a girl
[22:05:00] Esotericisms: yeah ... but what tuner module
[22:06:00] Esotericisms: it uses the bttv module
[22:06:00] Esotericisms: but it has a tuner on it that uses a certain tuner module
[22:06:00] laga: j-rod: congrats
[22:06:00] iggy: it probably comes with a multitude of different tuner types
[22:06:00] j-rod: if its a bttv version, it should be auto-detected
[22:06:00] Beirdo: use the source, Esotericisms
[22:06:00] j-rod: laga, danke
[22:07:00] Beirdo: w00t
[22:07:00] j-rod: we were both leaning toward wanting a daughter this time (first is a boy)
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[22:07:00] Beirdo: j-rod: one of each now?
[22:07:00] iggy: Esotericisms: you'll have to find out yourself which one it has (maybe it has a tveeprom, maybe you'll have to peel off some stickers, who knows)
[22:07:00] j-rod: yup
[22:07:00] Beirdo: well done :)
[22:07:00] laga: j-rod: bitte :)
[22:07:00] xris: j-rod: congratz
[22:07:00] Esotericisms: k
[22:07:00] j-rod: and that'll be ALL
[22:07:00] xris: I'm hoping for a daughter when that time comes. I think a boy would be too much work. heh.
[22:07:00] j-rod: no more. :)
[22:07:00] xris: one of each would be nice, though.
[22:08:00] kormoc: xris, till you have to fend off all the horny teenaged boys?
[22:08:00] Beirdo: j-rod: well, you have nothing else to try for now :) unless you want twins later. hehe
[22:08:00] Beirdo: kormoc: the axe will be handy
[22:08:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[22:08:00] xris: nah, no real fears about that. most behave when you brandish steel.
[22:08:00] j-rod: xris, any idea why the hell myththemes keeps getting nuked?
[22:08:00] laga: hey. there's nothing wrong with horny teenaged boys.
[22:08:00] j-rod: next time, I'll throw in some -v's to see if there's anything useful in there...
[22:08:00] xris: j-rod: never installed it.
[22:08:00] j-rod: aha
[22:09:00] Beirdo: laga: sure there is
[22:09:00] xris: laga: you can't date my nonexistent teenage daughter.
[22:09:00] laga: xris: that's good, right?
[22:09:00] xris: lol
[22:09:00] laga: xris: most parents would forbid their daughter to talk to me anyways ;)
[22:09:00] j-rod: you can date my existent teenage sister if you want though
[22:09:00] xris: and I don't think I'd want to be the new-boyfriend coming to meet j-rod for the first time. he can look scary even as a fellow adult. heh.
[22:09:00] xris: lol
[22:09:00] j-rod: :)
[22:09:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[22:10:00] j-rod: I look much less scary since I cut my hair off though
[22:10:00] Beirdo: j-rod: I'm sure she'd be pleased to know you're pimping her out on IRC
[22:10:00] j-rod: :)
[22:10:00] laga: j-rod: send pixx.
[22:10:00] xris: you were better with the hat on. made you look slightly goofy (esp. since you were flustered from running late)
[22:10:00] ** iggy gets a pen and paper to write down her phone number **
[22:10:00] j-rod: :p
[22:10:00] ** xris is still looking for a good style for when he cuts off his pony tail **
[22:10:00] Beirdo: when?
[22:10:00] Beirdo: you're planning it?
[22:11:00] xris: Beirdo: when I find a worthy style
[22:11:00] kormoc: laga, google teenage girls, those are her pictures.
[22:11:00] laga: dont cut your hair.
[22:11:00] Beirdo: ahh
[22:11:00] laga: kormoc: hehe.
[22:11:00] Beirdo: I cut my hair
[22:11:00] Beirdo: big time
[22:11:00] xris: laga: I'm getting a bit fed up with it (it's VERY long — basically to my waist)... and my wife has been hinting.
[22:11:00] xris: besides, I can always grow it back.
[22:11:00] laga: gotta do something about my hairs, too. they havent seen any scissors in 2 years.
[22:11:00] laga: yep.
[22:12:00] Beirdo: xris: I don't suggest a buzz cut straight off :)
[22:12:00] j-rod: I shouldn't be flustered from running late. I'm almost always late... :)
[22:12:00] laga: long hair takes a lot of time, unfortunately. i spend 30 minutes under the shower every morning.
[22:12:00] j-rod: I'll have to dig out some pix of me w/the long hair
[22:12:00] Beirdo: yeah, that was my main complaint with long hair
[22:12:00] j-rod: yeah, that would be one reason I ditched it
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[22:13:00] Beirdo: got it cut from most of the way to the waist to just below the ears
[22:13:00] j-rod: another being that it doesn't work so well on the baseball field for me
[22:13:00] laga: there arent any recent pictures of mien where i dont look stupid ;)
[22:13:00] j-rod: another being that I wanted to look slightly better for an interview...
[22:13:00] Beirdo: then last year, I started buzzing it right off
[22:13:00] laga: j-rod: BTW. you were on this webradio station lately, right?
[22:14:00] Beirdo: laga: you heard it? :)
[22:14:00] Beirdo: heh
[22:14:00] laga: Beirdo: i tried – but i'm nost used to american english and he didnt sound very umm awake.
[22:14:00] Beirdo: heh, it was all skype's fault
[22:14:00] laga: hehe
[22:14:00] Beirdo: and the dillholes trying to use it to call a cellphone. real smart
[22:14:00] laga: skype makes people tired? ;)
[22:15:00] laga: oh, ok.
[22:15:00] Beirdo: no, it makes wicked echo
[22:15:00] laga: hehe
[22:15:00] j-rod: laga, yeah, I couldn't hear shit
[22:15:00] laga: j-rod: sucks.
[22:15:00] laga: j-rod: well, same for me.
[22:15:00] laga: but i really gotta find some nice podcasts to improve my english.
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[22:16:00] Esotericisms: damnit...
[22:16:00] xris: laga: you just need to do some study abroad.
[22:16:00] laga: xris: yep.
[22:16:00] xris: american girls will go nuts over your Deutsche accent, too.
[22:16:00] laga: xris: well. "aborad" comes to me in a few months.
[22:16:00] laga: abroad*
[22:16:00] ** xris sort of wishes he still had his latin accent.. (although it's much less sexy on a blond guy) **
[22:17:00] laga: xris: i know a girl from the US, and she'lll be coming in a few months.
[22:17:00] ** j-rod never had any accent... :( **
[22:17:00] laga: less work for me. ;)
[22:17:00] laga: xris: hehe.
[22:17:00] laga: yeah. my accent is terrible. german-uk. ;)
[22:17:00] xris: j-rod: I had a slight latin accent when I moved back from peru (lived there basically from ages 9–13).. comes back slightly when I travel to spanish speaking countries and speak a lot of spanish for awhile.
[22:17:00] Beirdo: nothing wrong with that, laga
[22:18:00] Beirdo: j-rod: we all have accents, just some of them are more neutral than others
[22:18:00] laga: Beirdo: indeed. the problem with the english language is: each word is pronounced differently.
[22:18:00] laga: Beirdo: it's fscking annoying.
[22:18:00] Beirdo: xris: hehe, I'm getting to understand latin accents better by the day :)
[22:19:00] ** laga could actually offer latin with a german accent **
[22:19:00] laga: cogito, ergo sum.
[22:19:00] laga: or: cervisia creavit corporem meum.
[22:19:00] laga: (beer made my body)
[22:19:00] Beirdo: OK, more specifically, latin-american accent
[22:20:00] laga: *snicker* SCNR ;)
[22:20:00] xris: Beirdo: I'm telling you... you need to read some Neruda for her....
[22:20:00] Beirdo: heheh
[22:20:00] xris: (sounds even better in spanish, of course, but pretty decent in some of the translations I have)
[22:21:00] xris: and very few poets translate well.
[22:21:00] j-rod: Beirdo, then I have a very neutral accent. :)
[22:21:00] Beirdo: :)
[22:21:00] Beirdo: you know what's scary?
[22:22:00] Beirdo: it's the 11th
[22:22:00] j-rod: you've got a hardcore stereotypical Canadian accent?
[22:22:00] j-rod: oh
[22:22:00] Beirdo: I have 567min usage on asterisk this month
[22:22:00] j-rod: why's that scare? oh.
[22:22:00] Beirdo: and that's JUST me
[22:22:00] j-rod: the woman, I presume...
[22:23:00] laga: j-rod: doesnt matter, i oculdnt understand you anyways. let's just blame skype instead of my hearing ;)
[22:23:00] j-rod: heh, ok
[22:23:00] xris: j-rod: seattle people in general have the most neutral accent in the country (closest to so-called broadcast english)
[22:24:00] Beirdo: xris: parts of socal are like that too
[22:24:00] Beirdo: I could easily pass as being from Santa Barbara
[22:24:00] j-rod: Seattle born and raised, with brief stints in DC, Oregon, California and Tennesee
[22:24:00] j-rod: Yeah, not much difference between Seattle, Portland and the Bay
[22:24:00] Beirdo: I should call my buddy in Tennessee and call him a Yankee... I'm in the mood to hear a southerner yell :)
[22:26:00] Beirdo: lived in central to southern Ontario my entire life
[22:26:00] Beirdo: I can catch a MI/OH accent in a matter of hours
[22:26:00] Beirdo: I wonder what I'll sound like when I get back from TN? :)
[22:26:00] Beirdo: hehe
[22:26:00] j-rod: oh yah, eh, you hoser
[22:27:00] j-rod: ah, Strange Brew...
[22:27:00] xris: Beirdo: socal has a distinctive accent.
[22:27:00] j-rod: (am I thinking of the right movie?)
[22:27:00] Beirdo: xris: depends on the part
[22:27:00] Beirdo: Hollywood is very Canadian accent
[22:27:00] Beirdo: partially due to the number of Canadian actors
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[22:28:00] Beirdo: partially due to the number of Hollywood movies we watch
[22:28:00] Beirdo: heh
[22:29:00] Beirdo: of course, I'm a bit of an accent sponge
[22:29:00] ** laga is some kind of broken mythtv sponge **
[22:29:00] laga: ;)
[22:30:00] Beirdo: heheh
[22:31:00] Esotericisms: hrm ...
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[22:31:00] markit: hi :) any italian here?
[22:31:00] laga: sorry, i skipped that class ;)
[22:32:00] ** xris can read most italian **
[22:32:00] markit: any board to receive satellite tv that works with mythtv?
[22:32:00] laga: so do i. i hope so, at least – i never tried.
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[22:32:00] xris: markit: plenty — as long as you're talking about DVB-S
[22:32:00] markit: xris: I can speak english, just would like to have suggestions about hardware that surely works in italy ;)
[22:32:00] Esotericisms: can't get the tuner to work ...
[22:32:00] Esotericisms: this is driving me crazy
[22:33:00] xris: markit: search the mailing list archives for DVB-S and you should come up with something.
[22:33:00] markit: xris: some suggestion? do you use one?
[22:33:00] laga: markit: i probably have a link for ya.
[22:34:00] markit: laga: thanks a lot
[22:34:00] xris: markit: nope, I'm in the US.
[22:34:00] markit: ok, thanks xris for the suggestion of DVB-S keyword
[22:35:00] laga: markit: nope, sorry. i lost it.
[22:35:00] laga: markit: IIRC, it was some kind of wiki at linuxtv.org.
[22:35:00] markit: laga: don't worry, thansk anyway
[22:35:00] laga: dunno of those cards will card well in italy. but hey- we're talking about a standard here.
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[22:38:00] Esotericisms: damnit I figured out what chip it uses (tuner chip that is)
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[22:43:00] Esotericisms: I can't get it to work still
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[22:46:00] Esotericisms: alright I almost got it working
[22:46:00] Esotericisms: the images are really faded and are like neon-green
[22:47:00] Esotericisms: any ideas?
[22:48:00] laga: cut down on LSD? ;)
[22:48:00] Esotericisms: bah
[22:49:00] CyberKnet: Esotericisms: remove cellophane from in front of eyes
[22:49:00] laga: or order an cellophane-remove-o-matic 2500.
[22:49:00] Esotericisms: bah
[22:58:00] andy_: markit, you mean DVB
[22:58:00] andy_: ooppps that was from along time ago.. heh
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[23:01:00] Esotericisms: I am trying to schedule a program to record ... it isn't working
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[23:01:00] Esotericisms: I highlight "save settings" and it doesn't work
[23:01:00] Shibz: argh I am having big problems
[23:02:00] ole_schoola: any Chicagoland ATSC mythtv-ers got their ears on?
[23:02:00] andy_: why just chicago users
[23:02:00] ole_schoola: DataDirect listings for WTTW 11–1 look hosed
[23:02:00] Shibz: I know this isn't the lirc support channel, but can someone help me get it to work with my MCE remote?
[23:03:00] ole_schoola: looked on the Zap2It forums ... pretty dusty in there
[23:03:00] andy_: yeah REALLY dusty
[23:03:00] andy_: your screwed..
[23:03:00] andy_: =( sorry to say
[23:03:00] Esotericisms: why can't I schedule a recording?
[23:03:00] ole_schoola: sent an email to labs@zap2it... we'll see what they say
[23:03:00] andy_: i have a channel that is missing for my area.. and i have posted several times
[23:04:00] Shibz: how would I uninstall lirc?
[23:04:00] andy_: Shibz, why would you want to?
[23:04:00] andy_: just recompile if you need to
[23:05:00] Shibz: I tried recompiling the older version cause I heard the newer doesn't work with my remote, but it still loads the new one
[23:05:00] Esotericisms: when I do the options for setting up a recording ... and then go to the [save settings] I hight and hit enter ...
[23:05:00] Shibz: I type lircd -n it says it is 0.7.1
[23:05:00] Esotericisms: then I go to upcomings and it says I have no shows setup for recording
[23:06:00] andy_: Esotericisms, there is not near enough info i would think to make any kind of guess
[23:06:00] Esotericisms: what info do you need?
[23:06:00] andy_: is there any erros in verberous mode
[23:06:00] andy_: or compile in debug mode..
[23:07:00] andy_: or something to get more info
[23:07:00] andy_: that is wayyyy to general of a problem
[23:07:00] Esotericisms: the screen blinks ... where do I look for errors?
[23:07:00] andy_: you can run mythbackend -v all
[23:07:00] andy_: and run mythfrontend -v all
[23:08:00] andy_: then look for errors
[23:08:00] andy_: do any other settings work?
[23:08:00] andy_: could mysql not have write access?
[23:08:00] Esotericisms: I am looking at my errors for the backend
[23:09:00] Esotericisms: that could be ... maybe
[23:09:00] Esotericisms: all it says is
[23:09:00] Esotericisms: "Scheduled 0 items ...."
[23:09:00] andy_: thats normal
[23:09:00] andy_: does mythweb work to schedual
[23:09:00] Esotericisms: don't have it installed yet
[23:10:00] Esotericisms: how do I install it?
[23:10:00] andy_: you need to run knoppmyth if you have these types of basic questions
[23:10:00] andy_: i could type till im blue in the face
[23:11:00] andy_: knoppmyth will make it all just work for you
[23:11:00] Shibz: so how would I get rid of lirc so I can put on an older version?
[23:12:00] andy_: make install should have done that.. unless you installed it to 2 different locations
[23:12:00] Shibz: I don't know where the first one is
[23:12:00] Shibz: it came with knoppmyth
[23:13:00] ole_schoola: <doh.
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[23:14:00] slyboots: Hi#
[23:15:00] andy_: Shibz, you must have done something wrong i have recompile lirc on knoppmyth dozens of times
[23:15:00] slyboots: Having a slight problem with MythTV, It downloads the listings correctly, but its not showing the correct stations in LiveTv
[23:16:00] Shibz: argh i am having so many problems
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[23:16:00] Shibz: I also can't get my tuners to work
[23:16:00] gr8nash: Shibz, what version of knoppmyth?
[23:16:00] slyboots: 2005-05–11 23:14:44.921 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "A0" in the "setup" Channel Editor.
[23:16:00] slyboots: I get a *ton* of errors along those lines when-ever I try to change the station
[23:17:00] Shibz: R5A15.1 I think
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[23:17:00] slyboots: Does that mean the mythtv-setup option?
[23:17:00] gr8nash: you have a pvr250?
[23:17:00] slyboots: Or something in Mythfrontend
[23:17:00] Shibz: I have pvr500
[23:17:00] gr8nash: ohh well good luck then
[23:17:00] gr8nash: lots of people cant get it to work..
[23:17:00] gr8nash: the answers are out there though
[23:18:00] slyboots: Im not sure whats going on, I can only get the listings for Station 2, and its showing the wrong channel anyway
[23:19:00] Shibz: I found lotsa places that explain how to get pvr500 working, but nothing ever works for me
[23:19:00] slyboots: when I try to use the number keys to change station, nothign happens and the terminal fills up with that message (although the A0 changes per message)
[23:19:00] gr8nash: slyboots, you need to rerun mythtv-setup
[23:19:00] gr8nash: and setup everyTHING again
[23:19:00] gr8nash: also make sure zap2it labs is setup correctly
[23:20:00] slyboots: zap2it?
[23:20:00] gr8nash: Shibz, you i feel you pain. that why im waiting till its eazy to setup
[23:20:00] gr8nash: slyboots, where are you from?
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[23:21:00] gr8nash: slyboots, hello?
[23:21:00] slyboots: N. Ireland
[23:21:00] gr8nash: ohh so forget zap2it labs
[23:21:00] gr8nash: you need some xmltv
[23:21:00] gr8nash: and that i cant help you with sorry =(
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[23:25:00] Shibz: so nobody knows how to remove a lirc installation?
[23:26:00] slyboots: Right, The errors are gone..
[23:26:00] slyboots: But I still cant change challe
[23:27:00] slyboots: Unless Im doing something daft
[23:28:00] slyboots: Does myth use any sorty of outside program to parse what channel it should switch the TV card to?
[23:29:00] j-rod: hey xris, how hard would it be to take a parameter passed to one url and forward it along to another?
[23:29:00] xris: j-rod: via GET, easy.. POST, not that easy.
[23:30:00] j-rod: such that http://www.anotherdomain.com/anotherpage.php? . . . meparam=blah
[23:31:00] j-rod: (someone at work is asking how to do something like this)
[23:31:00] Beirdo: mod_rewrite should be able to do it
[23:32:00] Beirdo: I'm certainly no expert at using it though :)
[23:32:00] slyboots: Its rather crap that I cant change the channel inside myth
[23:32:00] xris: j-rod: very easy to do with mod_rewrite
[23:32:00] Esotericisms: alright ...
[23:33:00] Esotericisms: I have done a mythfrontend -v all
[23:33:00] xris: and with php, you could just do header("Location: new_url&param=".urlencode($_GET['param']))
[23:33:00] xris: mod_rewrite would probably be better, though
[23:34:00] Esotericisms: I have also done mythbackend -v all
[23:34:00] j-rod: I presume the php way you would need to know what the params were in advance though, yes?
[23:34:00] j-rod: so mod_rewrite would be the way to do it
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[23:35:00] xris: no. there's a $_SERVER['QUERY_STRING'] variable
[23:35:00] xris: mod_rewrite would be the best way, though
[23:35:00] Esotericisms: I am not seeing any errors
[23:35:00] slyboots: I've noticed that if i use xawtv before I load mythfrontend, whatever channel I exit xawtv on, thatsa the channel that mythtv shows and sticks on
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[23:35:00] xris: RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^siliconmechanics.com$ [NC]
[23:35:00] xris: RewriteRule (.*) http://www.siliconmechanics.com/$1 [R=permanent,L,QSA]
[23:36:00] slyboots: So why does every other TV program change the channel, but not myth, anyone any suggestions?
[23:36:00] xris: j-rod: you want the QSA option (appends the old query string to the end of the new url)
[23:36:00] xris: the rule I just posted takes all http://siliconmechanics.com/foo/ type things and sends them to www.
[23:36:00] Beirdo: slyboots: because your setup is incorrect..
[23:36:00] xris: also adds a "premanent redirect" header
[23:36:00] Esotericisms: when I go to upcoming recordings ... it is empty... my guide doesn't show that I have set any of the shows to record ...
[23:36:00] slyboots: in what way?
[23:36:00] Esotericisms: when I go to set priorities it says I have like 10 in there
[23:37:00] gr8nash: slyboots, since we cant look into your box.. you need to done sme troubleshooting and ask more specific quesitons
[23:37:00] j-rod: cool, thanks xris
[23:37:00] Esotericisms: but now I have no way of deleting them
[23:37:00] gr8nash: or your never gonna get an answer
[23:37:00] Beirdo: I dunno, did you go into the channel editor like it said to?
[23:37:00] slyboots: Yes, I dont see anything that seems to relate to what channel that station apears on
[23:37:00] slyboots: the only thing even vauly close would be "callsign"
[23:38:00] Beirdo: I'm sure there's a howto out there somewhere for UK users
[23:38:00] Esotericisms: can anyone help?
[23:39:00] j-rod: xris, just drop the ^ in front of siliconmechanics.com if I want to take domain.com and www.domain.com and forward them?
[23:39:00] ** j-rod needs to read up on mod_rewrite... **
[23:39:00] j-rod: or do I need a wildcard?
[23:39:00] xris: j-rod: or you could just drop the RewriteCond altogether.
[23:40:00] xris: (and put the NC into the RewriteRule options)
[23:41:00] xris: it's actually pretty well-explained here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_rewrite.html that's usually where I go to get info when I need new rules, etc.
[23:42:00] Esotericisms: alright ... using mythweb ... I can see all the recordings that I attempted to setup in the "Recording Schedules" tab ... but I can't see them in the "Scheduled Recordings" tab
[23:42:00] Esotericisms: help please
[23:42:00] Beirdo: Esotericisms: have you run mythfilldatabase recently?
[23:43:00] Esotericisms: not recently
[23:43:00] Esotericisms: should i?
[23:43:00] Beirdo: it should be run daily
[23:43:00] slyboots: I dont understand how Myth knows what channel a station is transmitting on, there is no place to enter such data
[23:43:00] Beirdo: if you haven't, then that's likely the problem
[23:43:00] Beirdo: slyboots: it's in the channel editor
[23:44:00] Esotericisms: should it be run with or without mythbackend and mythfrontend running
[23:44:00] Beirdo: Esotericisms: shouldn't matter, I don't think
[23:44:00] slyboots: Were exactly in the channle editor, I see nothing that even comes close to a channel setting
[23:44:00] gr8nash: slyboots, click on a CHANNEl
[23:44:00] gr8nash: it takes you to the edit screen
[23:45:00] slyboots: Supprisinly I've tried that already
[23:45:00] gr8nash: maybe you have a special version of myth =/
[23:45:00] slyboots: Right "Channel Number, Callsign?(wtf). Source, Format"
[23:45:00] Esotericisms: doesn't mythfilldatabase just put the info from datadirect into the database for display in the tvguide?
[23:46:00] xris: ooh, my favorite grocery store has fresh wasabi back in stock....
[23:46:00] slyboots: That still does not explain why its locked on one channel, and why if I change the channel via xawtv, myth keeps the last channel I was viewing (in xawtv)
[23:47:00] Esotericisms: Beirdo, doesn't mythfilldatabase just take the data from datadirect.com and put it in the mysql database?
[23:47:00] Beirdo: yes
[23:50:00] topping: hmm, anyone recognize the error "DVDPerfectThread read failed for block 0" when trying to rip a dvd?
[23:50:00] Esotericisms: when I use mythweb to schedule a recording ... I click the update recoding database button after i select the options: 'this show only', 'profile=livetv'
[23:50:00] Esotericisms: and it just reloads to the same page
[23:50:00] Esotericisms: I go to the "Scheduled Recordings" and there is nothing there
[23:51:00] j-rod: wasabi!
[23:51:00] j-rod: yum...
[23:51:00] gr8nash: topping, i have seen that a few times
[23:51:00] xris: Esotericisms: then something's not working right. it *will* just reload the same page, but it should schedule the recording.
[23:51:00] ** j-rod pondered grabbing lunch at the Nara Grill today **
[23:51:00] xris: j-rod: central market ROCKS. too bad it's way up in shoreline.
[23:52:00] topping: gr8nash: does it go away on different dvds?
[23:52:00] Esotericisms: alright ... any ideas as to what is wrong?!
[23:52:00] j-rod: never been to central market
[23:52:00] ** topping reaches for another disc **
[23:52:00] xris: fresh wasabi is also infinitely better than the green mustard crap that you get 99% the time.
[23:52:00] j-rod: better than Uwajimaya?
[23:52:00] mchou: lol, definitely better than Uwajimaya.
[23:52:00] xris: yeah. it's not just an asian market. supposedly 4th largest produce section of any grocery store in the country.
[23:53:00] Esotericisms: ??
[23:53:00] gr8nash: topping, yes
[23:53:00] ** j-rod knows the family that owns Uwajimaya **
[23:53:00] gr8nash: i ******************THINk***************** its the new copy protection
[23:53:00] xris: Esotericisms: not really sure. mythweb would throw errors if it couldn't set up a schedule.
[23:53:00] topping: hmm, it just needed to be ejected and reloaded
[23:53:00] gr8nash: but thats just a guess.. it only does it on some dvd's with me..
[23:53:00] Esotericisms: damnit
[23:54:00] mchou: I think Berkeley Bowl is far superior than central market.
[23:54:00] topping: so how are they going to add new copy protection without breaking a bunch of players?
[23:54:00] xris: try a different schedule type
[23:54:00] topping: or don't they care?
[23:54:00] gr8nash: libdvdcss hasnt been updated since 2003 =(
[23:54:00] Esotericisms: I really don't want to have to reinstall again
[23:54:00] xris: mchou: which central market? there are 4.
[23:54:00] gr8nash: topping, dont know..but sony did it
[23:54:00] mchou: xris: all of them combined :)
[23:54:00] topping: cool thanks :-)
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[23:55:00] topping: where is central market?
[23:55:00] ** xris curses bash for teaching him control-W to "delete last word" **
[23:55:00] xris: topping: seattle area
[23:55:00] gr8nash: what does "chanserve gives vioce to xris" mean?
[23:55:00] topping: ahh
[23:55:00] mchou: xris: http://www.berkeleybowl.com/pages/produce.html
[23:55:00] xris: gr8nash: it means I'm special
[23:55:00] gr8nash: ahh..
[23:55:00] slyboots: Means someone likes xris
[23:55:00] gr8nash: =(
[23:56:00] xris: mchou: nice... but nowhere near close enough to me.
[23:56:00] ** gr8nash wishes he felt special **
[23:56:00] slyboots: but you dont, thats life.
[23:56:00] gr8nash: =( *snif*
[23:57:00] ** xris lights an unbirthday candle for gr8nash, and places it gently into a bucket of trout. **
[23:57:00] gr8nash: yes sly.. but my mythbox works great *snear*
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[23:57:00] gr8nash: ROFL thanks
[23:57:00] Esotericisms: bah this is freaking pissing me off
[23:58:00] slyboots: yea, we all have problems
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[23:59:00] ** topping pours Esotericisms a shot of tequila **
[23:59:00] slyboots: Does myth use any programs to control the TVcard? Like xawtv or tvtime..?
[23:59:00] slyboots: Or does it have its own method built in
[23:59:00] mchou: slyboots: huh????
[23:59:00] xris: slyboots: myth *is* one of those programs
[23:59:00] slyboots: Im trying to figure out why its locked on one channel, (But if you change the station with xawtv, thats the station myht also displays)
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