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[00:04:00] Ashlar: hrmm.. anyone having issues changing channels in livetv in 0.18? recordings change fine, but not livetv
[00:06:00] Agrajag-: what issues are you having?
[00:06:00] Ashlar: I can switch sources / inputs just fine, but any channel change freezes the frontend
[00:07:00] Ashlar: well, not freeze, because I can hit esc anf get back to mythfrontend..
[00:07:00] Ashlar: but the osd starts to fade out on the channel #, and it stops..
[00:08:00] Ashlar: nothing on the backend or frontend log looks interesting
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[00:26:00] sunilonln: i need help setting up a pvr-150
[00:26:00] sunilonln: i try to watch tv and get a black screen
[00:26:00] sunilonln: the backend log complains about codecs
[00:26:00] sunilonln: i have set all of the profiles to 720x480
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[00:27:00] sunilonln: any ideas?
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[00:39:00] sunilonln: does anyone know if the ivtv installation instructions for the pvr-150 in jarod wilson's tutorial are up to date?
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[00:45:00] Sunshine01j: sorry nod51, found answer on knoppix forums
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[00:46:00] Sunshine01j: when I installed Knoppix with auto install, after reboot. System never loaded, answer was to boot from cd, delete all partitions via fdisk and try install again
[00:46:00] Sunshine01j: almost done with install
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[01:13:00] sunilonln: i rebooted, but now it can't open the video device
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[01:46:00] poonj: hey guys...are the BT878 chipset based cards supported by mythtv?
[01:46:00] MiX-MaN: poonj: mine works
[01:47:00] poonj: okay
[01:47:00] MiX-MaN: not the best quility in the world.. but it works :)
[01:47:00] poonj: whats "good" quality?
[01:47:00] poonj: in terms of the video?
[01:47:00] MiX-MaN: not sure.. prob the pvr cards
[01:47:00] poonj: pvr just does mpeg2 on the fly
[01:48:00] MiX-MaN: witch is good
[01:48:00] poonj: are your recordings bad when replaying?
[01:48:00] MiX-MaN: its slightly less then the tv quility
[01:49:00] Agrajag-: poonj: it depends on quality settings you set for recordings
[01:49:00] MiX-MaN: good point.. it also depends on your system hardware :)
[01:49:00] MiX-MaN: with bt878's at least
[01:49:00] poonj: well, the BT878 is all software..
[01:49:00] poonj: so the more resources to encode it on the fly..the better it is
[01:49:00] MiX-MaN: put it this way... you get what you pay for with the bt878
[01:50:00] poonj: well, I wasn't expecting too much
[01:50:00] MiX-MaN: im satisfied... but i wouldent mind better
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[01:54:00] intrade: i got a leadech winfast 2000 delux
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[01:56:00] poonj: intrade: which chip is that based on?
[01:57:00] intrade: bt
[01:57:00] intrade: not sure what one
[01:57:00] poonj: what about the CX2388X chipsets?
[01:57:00] intrade: think 878
[01:57:00] poonj: are those supported in myth?
[01:58:00] intrade: i run kdetv
[01:58:00] intrade: and xawtv
[01:58:00] intrade: and tvtime
[01:58:00] intrade: and decode sky uhf
[01:58:00] intrade: on winblows however
[01:58:00] intrade: http://www.suitedscooter.com/
[01:59:00] Agrajag-: poonj: if it's supported by v4l, then it'll work with myth
[01:59:00] intrade: myght buy a dvb card soon
[01:59:00] intrade: anyone use one? on linux
[01:59:00] Agrajag-: yeah i do
[01:59:00] intrade: what chip do you need a special chip for linux ?
[02:00:00] Agrajag-: yeah some work, some dont
[02:00:00] Agrajag-: http://www.linuxtv.org/
[02:00:00] intrade: thats why i made sure i got a bt chip on my analog
[02:01:00] sunilonln: ok, i'm so much closer
[02:01:00] poonj: I have a pchdtv 3000 card
[02:01:00] sunilonln: when i click watch tv
[02:01:00] poonj: couldn't get it to work with dvb
[02:01:00] sunilonln: i see static for a couple secs, hear noise
[02:01:00] sunilonln: then it freezes
[02:01:00] sunilonln: with mythfrontend "waited too long for decoder to pause"
[02:01:00] intrade: i think i got dvb progy in my kanotix
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[02:02:00] sunilonln: before that "couldn't get the color key color, and we need it"
[02:02:00] sunilonln: am i on the right track?
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[02:02:00] intrade: teclasat must be it ?
[02:04:00] topping: has anyone compiled myth from source on x86_64? i presume it's not hard, but i'm getting a problem with a "missing" lib... "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmp3lame" it's in there... /usr/lib64/libmp3lame.so.0
[02:04:00] topping: can't figure out
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[02:05:00] Agrajag-: is /usr/lib64 in your ld.so.conf?
[02:06:00] topping: yep, at the top, and did an ldconfig as well
[02:07:00] Agrajag-: hmm
[02:07:00] Agrajag-: i think you need a /usr/lib64/libmp3lame.so
[02:07:00] Agrajag-: (which should probably be a symlink to /usr/lib64/libmp3lame.so.0)
[02:08:00] topping: you are a god
[02:08:00] topping: :-)
[02:08:00] ** topping makes mental note **
[02:09:00] topping: my roomates killed all my episodes of super milk chan and other important files last night... ugh. installing on another machine
[02:13:00] opello: anything involving super milk chan can't be important
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[02:18:00] riksta: topping: yo
[02:18:00] topping: hey!
[02:28:00] sunilonln: would anyone know what causes mythfrontend to hang when changing channels?
[02:29:00] sunilonln: the only error i see is "couldn't get the color key color"
[02:29:00] sunilonln: but i think that is while livetv is being initiated
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[02:43:00] arrummzen: Have any of you had problems getting the Qt My SQL driver to install?
[02:43:00] arrummzen: Because not matter what I do I can't get it to install...
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[02:58:00] defaultro: hey guys, does mythmusic support m4a files?
[03:02:00] riksta: sunilonln: dvb?
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[03:02:00] sunilonln: no, just analog cable
[03:03:00] sunilonln: using ptune-ui.pl and mplayer all i can see is static on any channel
[03:04:00] sunilonln: but composite input is working fine
[03:04:00] riksta: well if you don't get any channels on other apps then it aint myth
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[03:26:00] emes: can i delete a show but allow future recordings form mythweb?
[03:30:00] Agrajag-: yeah.. deleting a show from the recorded programs list just deletes the program.. not the schedule
[03:36:00] jemarcks: zzzzzzzzzzz
[03:37:00] emes: no, i mean not mark the epidose as watches, so it records the specific episode in the future
[03:38:00] emes: *episode :)
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[03:47:00] jemarcks: Anybody have a procedure to take a .nuv file and burn it to dvd?
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[03:51:00] ** xris loves his new mythbox that crashes when trying to watch a recent recording. **
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[03:52:00] xris: hmm, maybe that recording was corrupt.
[03:54:00] poonj: for some reason
[03:54:00] poonj: my mythweb is giving me problems
[03:55:00] poonj: with the mysql_connect() function in the init.php file
[03:55:00] poonj: anyone here have that same problem?
[03:56:00] Sunshine01j: Anyone know why I am getting the error cannot start X server when booting up debian?
[03:56:00] Sunshine01j: using a ati 9200 video
[03:56:00] fryfrog: looks like the FCC broadcast bit was shut down?
[03:56:00] poonj: fryfrog, yeah
[03:56:00] fryfrog: groovy!
[03:56:00] fryfrog: also, i would like to say that i got a 30" HD widescreen tv HUHA!
[03:56:00] poonj: cool
[03:57:00] fryfrog: i need to get a DVI -> HDMI pc cable and see what computer looks like on it
[03:57:00] fryfrog: and the cable guy comes on wed to hook us up with HD cable shit
[03:58:00] fryfrog: now i just need to ditch my pvr 250's and get a couple air2pc cards and hope that my cable company doesn't encrypt the chans :/
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[04:44:00] BattousaiX: Hey everyone.
[04:45:00] BattousaiX: What's the best way to get more than 125 channels from a PVR-350?
[04:45:00] Beirdo: by buying something that supports more than 125 channels
[04:45:00] Beirdo: analog cable only has up to 125
[04:45:00] Beirdo: channels past that aren't even defined
[04:47:00] BattousaiX: Beirdo, is there an analog -> digital coaxial -> video (composite) convertor
[04:47:00] Beirdo: huh?
[04:47:00] BattousaiX: I probably need to take another look at my setup.
[04:49:00] BattousaiX: I have a coaxial cable coming in to a 4 port splitter -> cable modem / cable box / computer. I think the PVR-350 can handle a coax/composite video. But if I do connect the video, how will I get incomming sound?
[04:49:00] Beirdo: hmmm?
[04:49:00] Beirdo: what are you talking about?
[04:49:00] Beirdo: you aren't making any sense
[04:50:00] BattousaiX: Beirdo 1. I have the PVR-350 working with channels 1–125. I'm looking for a solution to get all digital cable channels.
[04:50:00] Beirdo: use svideo from the digital cable box to a tuner
[04:50:00] Beirdo: with accompanying audio
[04:51:00] Beirdo: or composite if you have to
[04:51:00] BattousaiX: So, from the splitter -> cable box -> PVR?
[04:51:00] BattousaiX: wall -> splitter -> cable box -> pvr?
[04:52:00] Beirdo: get it to the cable box however works
[04:52:00] Beirdo: :)
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[04:52:00] Beirdo: but the only way you can record digital cable is from the output of the cable box
[04:52:00] BattousaiX: Hehe. You have me confused.  :(
[04:53:00] BattousaiX: The guide provided at some site, I forget which was nice.
[04:53:00] BattousaiX: I'm at work so I can't really see my connections on the cable box nor do I know them.
[04:53:00] BattousaiX: I do believe my choices are S-Video or Composite.
[04:54:00] BattousaiX: I also had trouble getting mytv to work on gentoo 64. So I put knoppmyth on another computer and setup didn't take too long.
[04:54:00] Beirdo: so don't use gentoo if you can't get it to work in gentoo :)
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[04:59:00] c0al: Can mythtv be used, when you're not using a tv as a display? I'm looking for good PVR software, but i only watch TV on my monitor.
[05:01:00] rjune: c0al: i.e. can you use mythtv with a monitor? yes
[05:01:00] rjune: that's what I do
[05:01:00] c0al: ah, okay great.
[05:02:00] c0al: I'm ordering a hauppage wintv 250 soon
[05:02:00] poonj: how much does one of those go for?
[05:02:00] adante: i was simultaneously running mythfrontend on tv AND monitor at one stage :]
[05:02:00] BattousaiX: Beirdo thank you. :)
[05:02:00] c0al: poonj, about $135
[05:03:00] Beirdo: you're welcome. heh
[05:03:00] poonj: hey beirdo...I'm having problems with mythweb that I installed through debian packages. I am getting an error with mysqlconnect() in the init.php on line 54
[05:03:00] BattousaiX: I'm glad I went with the 350 instead of 250. I wound up putting it in an old computer. :)
[05:03:00] c0al: I'm super busy next semester, so i'm getting the card so i can record aqua teen and WSOP
[05:03:00] poonj: when accessing the website through my browser that is....do you have any idea as to what it could be?
[05:03:00] c0al: lol.
[05:03:00] Beirdo: likely you don't have MySQL for PHP installed
[05:03:00] BattousaiX: Beirdo I was the dumbass in here about 3 months ago. :(
[05:03:00] poonj: Beirdo: I installed apache2 and libapache-php4-mysql
[05:03:00] poonj: you think I may need apache1?
[05:03:00] BattousaiX: Beirdo. Now I have to look into a dual monitor setup.  :(
[05:03:00] Beirdo: we've had a lot of dumbasses :)
[05:04:00] Beirdo: nah, apache2.
[05:04:00] BattousaiX: Beirdo, I may have converted. :)
[05:04:00] Beirdo: but
[05:04:00] poonj: ummm...I don't know if I have it installed
[05:04:00] Beirdo: you may need libapache2-php4-mysql
[05:04:00] Beirdo: not libapache-
[05:04:00] poonj: let me search to see it
[05:04:00] poonj: okay
[05:04:00] Beirdo: I know that's the case in ubuntu
[05:05:00] poonj: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql
[05:05:00] BattousaiX: Anyone here going to Defcon?
[05:05:00] poonj: libapache2-mod-php4
[05:05:00] poonj: ?
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[05:10:00] Beirdo: libapache2-mod-php4 likely has it covered
[05:10:00] bobc: Beirdo: you're running ubuntu?
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[05:12:00] poonj: okay beirod
[05:12:00] poonj: thanks!
[05:12:00] poonj: I also wanted to ask you about rosyln cards...
[05:12:00] poonj: they are supported uxing the cx88-blackbird module in the v4l package..
[05:12:00] poonj: can myth use them?
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[05:16:00] Agrajag-: poonj: myth uses v4l.. if v4l supports it, myth does
[05:17:00] poonj: Agrajag-: okay...I just wanted to make sure...I guess I'll give it a try before I sell it
[05:18:00] adante: Agrajag-: been meaning to ask you, did you run your tv_grab_au/mythfilldatabase from mythbackend? if so what'd you use to run it?
[05:18:00] adante: as in, what command
[05:18:00] Agrajag-: nah i run it from cron
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[05:19:00] fryfrog: wanna buy a pvr250 or two? :)
[05:19:00] c0al: fryfrog,
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[05:19:00] c0al: i'm buying one soon
[05:19:00] c0al: how much are you selling them for?
[05:19:00] fryfrog: i dunno, how much are those pvr150s?
[05:19:00] c0al: the 250's are 133$ retail
[05:19:00] fryfrog: i think the price of one of them would be reasonable, like $75–80 bucks?
[05:20:00] fryfrog: 250s still go for $133???
[05:20:00] adante: righto, thanks
[05:20:00] c0al: fryfrog, yeah
[05:20:00] poonj: anyone here get the HDTV-3000 to work with DVB?
[05:20:00] c0al: lemme check and see what they are on ebay
[05:21:00] fryfrog: i see a bunch for $70–100
[05:21:00] fryfrog: approx
[05:21:00] c0al: ya, the ones with less than a couple hours left are like 100 average
[05:21:00] c0al: I'll probably just buy a new one, ya should probly list them on ebay
[05:21:00] fryfrog: i think i'd be cool with ~80 ish
[05:22:00] fryfrog: yeah, i guess that'd work
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[05:29:00] fryfrog: i think 4 of em is to much :)
[05:29:00] MiX-MaN: anyone know of a program to convert nuv's to divx in windows :/
[05:30:00] fryfrog: nuv-export
[05:31:00] MiX-MaN: is that ported to windows?
[05:32:00] fryfrog: oh
[05:32:00] fryfrog: duh
[05:32:00] MiX-MaN: heh
[05:32:00] fryfrog: i glanced over the "windows" part
[05:32:00] MiX-MaN: i try to do the same
[05:32:00] MiX-MaN: my myth box is crashing... need to restore it
[05:32:00] MiX-MaN: but i gotta get my vids off of it first
[05:32:00] Beirdo: so convert on the linux box
[05:33:00] Beirdo: or burn em as is onto a DVD-R
[05:33:00] MiX-MaN: i wished i had a dvd burner
[05:33:00] MiX-MaN: and i cant convert on the linux box
[05:33:00] MiX-MaN: its crashing
[05:33:00] MiX-MaN: every.. 20 mins or so
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[05:41:00] poonj: how much TV can one record?!
[05:41:00] poonj: I guess one could record all of the TV shows
[05:41:00] poonj: but thats a lot of TV
[05:41:00] MiX-MaN: i try to records quite a bit
[05:41:00] MiX-MaN: simpsons twice a day
[05:41:00] poonj: cable TV?
[05:41:00] MiX-MaN: sat
[05:41:00] poonj: well, yeah...I guess seinfeld
[05:41:00] MiX-MaN: ATHF
[05:41:00] poonj: for me...but there are only so many episodes
[05:42:00] MiX-MaN: some sience stuff
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[05:42:00] MiX-MaN: science*
[05:42:00] poonj: what bitrate do you encode the mpeg4 at?
[05:42:00] poonj: or do you use rtjpeg
[05:42:00] MiX-MaN: hmm
[05:42:00] MiX-MaN: cant remember
[05:42:00] MiX-MaN: normally leave it at the defaults
[05:43:00] MiX-MaN: but i use mpeg4
[05:43:00] poonj: so you can fit 1hr of tv into 350mb?
[05:43:00] MiX-MaN: hmm
[05:43:00] MiX-MaN: let me check
[05:43:00] MiX-MaN: right now im sitting at 250~ for 15 mins
[05:44:00] poonj: okay..so 1GB/hr
[05:44:00] poonj: but if you compress it to divix..
[05:44:00] poonj: you could get better compression right?
[05:44:00] MiX-MaN: oh ya
[05:44:00] MiX-MaN: hold
[05:45:00] MiX-MaN: 04/28/2005 03:55a 309,803,320 2001- A Space Odyssey – Untitled.avi
[05:45:00] MiX-MaN: 1 hour
[05:45:00] poonj: wow..
[05:45:00] poonj: at 1100kb/s?
[05:45:00] MiX-MaN: dunno
[05:45:00] MiX-MaN: heh
[05:45:00] poonj: okay
[05:46:00] MiX-MaN: 960
[05:46:00] poonj: I'm just trying to figure out the bitrate to use
[05:46:00] poonj: so I can fit 3.5 hrs of TV into a 4.7gb dvd
[05:46:00] MiX-MaN: Audio bitrate? [128]
[05:46:00] MiX-MaN: Variable bitrate video? [No]
[05:46:00] MiX-MaN: Video bitrate? [960]
[05:46:00] MiX-MaN: Default resolution based on 4:3 aspect ratio.
[05:46:00] MiX-MaN: Width? [624]
[05:46:00] poonj: I'm recording in HD
[05:46:00] MiX-MaN: Height? [464]
[05:46:00] poonj: so I'm gnna need a bigger bitrate
[05:46:00] poonj: and record at higher res
[05:46:00] arrummzen: How do I get colors other than green, white, and black?
[05:47:00] MiX-MaN: arrummzen: wtf?
[05:47:00] arrummzen: I have only been getting those three colors, its starting to piss me of.
[05:47:00] MiX-MaN: arrummzen: only with live tv?
[05:47:00] MiX-MaN: recorded stuff?
[05:47:00] MiX-MaN: everything
[05:47:00] MiX-MaN: ?
[05:48:00] arrummzen: Just live tv.
[05:48:00] MiX-MaN: what about when you record live tv
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[05:48:00] arrummzen: let me try it.
[05:48:00] MiX-MaN: k
[05:49:00] arrummzen: This was eayer on windows...
[05:49:00] poonj: I don't know if I should just sell my pvr-250BTV
[05:50:00] poonj: and buy a cheap BT878A/CX2388x card
[05:50:00] poonj: or save up to get a PVR-150
[05:50:00] MiX-MaN: poonj: if your doing HD then you need to get an hd card
[05:51:00] poonj: I have an HDTV-3000
[05:51:00] poonj: this is for cable
[05:51:00] MiX-MaN: ah
[05:51:00] poonj: I'm having trouble getting the HDTV-3000 to work with DVB
[05:51:00] poonj: I wonder if anyone has gotten it to work
[05:51:00] MiX-MaN: dunno im sure theres some nix guru out there that has
[05:52:00] arrummzen: Do you think its a hardware problem?
[05:52:00] poonj: no..
[05:52:00] poonj: I am using it with the v4l1 drivers
[05:52:00] poonj: O
[05:52:00] poonj: its a software problem
[05:52:00] poonj: I don't know what I need to do..
[05:52:00] poonj: there isn't really a howto for it
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[06:12:00] MiX-MaN: anyone know of a good slackware myth install guide?
[06:13:00] laga: there are a few out there..wait a sec.
[06:13:00] Agrajag-: nah no one seriously uses slackware anymore, didn't you know
[06:13:00] Agrajag-: :P
[06:14:00] laga: Agrajag-: shut it ;)
[06:14:00] laga: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65
[06:15:00] MiX-MaN: heh
[06:15:00] MiX-MaN: jackpot
[06:15:00] MiX-MaN: thanks man
[06:17:00] laga: ;)
[06:20:00] laga: ok, gotta go to school...cya guys.
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[06:38:00] MajestiK: Does anyone know if there are debian.. debs.. of 0.18 around anywhere?
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[06:54:00] chkno: Anyone know how to get time stretch factors greater than 2?
[06:58:00] j-rod: mdz said no debs for a little while, he's out of town (at Ubuntu Down Under, I believe)
[07:01:00] Agrajag-: chkno: are you serious?
[07:01:00] Agrajag-: you can't really understand anything at 2x the speed can you?
[07:02:00] Agrajag-: once i get past about 1.3x i find speech is just too fast to follow
[07:03:00] topping: unless it's jon stewart, who is almost too fast at 1.2x
[07:04:00] Agrajag-: heh
[07:04:00] chkno: Agrajag-: I've been using 2x for a few months now. You get used to it. (& I don't watch everything at 2x)
[07:05:00] MiX-MaN: is ubuntu any good?
[07:05:00] topping: so it looks like i need to use qt 4.0 to also use qt-mysql that will work with mysql 4.0
[07:05:00] Agrajag-: i remember i wrote an app which used the soundtouch libs a while back – there was a limit.. can't remember what it is though
[07:05:00] Agrajag-: MiX-MaN: yeah it's pretty decent for a desktop machine
[07:05:00] topping: ?
[07:05:00] ** j-rod likes Ubuntu too **
[07:05:00] MiX-MaN: what about for a dedicated myth box
[07:06:00] Agrajag-: yeah should be good
[07:06:00] MiX-MaN: ill give it a shot
[07:06:00] j-rod: my dev box runs ubu, no problems to speak of
[07:07:00] MiX-MaN: cool
[07:08:00] j-rod: not as brain-dead stupid for me to set up as an FC3 box, but then, I'm a long-time RH guy
[07:09:00] j-rod: oh yeah, on the deb front... Does knoppmyth have 0.18 packages? They ought to work on ubu or straight debian as well...
[07:10:00] j-rod: (or so I would think)
[07:12:00] arrummzen: Where does the QMYSQL3 driver need to be installed so mythtv may find it?
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[07:13:00] xris: j-rod: I have a (non-functional) script from mchou to automatically hook scanned atsc channels to datadirect channels. was wondering if you'd be interested in working with me to get a good air2pc/atsc howto added to your guide.
[07:16:00] xris: I haven't actually gotten the air2pc to work yet (for lack of up-to-date info, I think), so it's in by best interest to help write a good guide.  :)
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[07:21:00] j-rod: xris, sounds like a plan to me. :)
[07:21:00] j-rod: long over-due to enhance the hd2k/3k stuff too
[07:21:00] xris: so... any suggestions on what I do first to just get the card working?
[07:21:00] j-rod: hell, enhance? who am I kidding?
[07:21:00] j-rod: there's really nothing there to begin with... :)
[07:22:00] xris: I've tested signal strengths, etc. and can scan in channels, but get weird "waited too long for data" messages from the frontend when I try to view anything.
[07:22:00] j-rod: got anything in /dev/dvb/ ?
[07:22:00] j-rod: hm...
[07:22:00] j-rod: one sec, going mobile... (hauling my laptop upstairs)
[07:22:00] xris: wondering if maybe something's borked in cvs.
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[07:24:00] j-rod: so you have the driver side of things working, it would seem
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[07:25:00] j-rod: I know the code out of the release-0-18-fixes branch works. :)
[07:25:00] xris: yeah, drivers seem to work. that azap program detects decent signals for the available channels, and mythtvsetup can scan and identify channels
[07:25:00] j-rod: but I do vaguely recall some new dvb stuff in cvs
[07:25:00] j-rod: done any db editing?
[07:26:00] xris: not manually, no
[07:26:00] j-rod: (just trying to think what I've done to make things work)
[07:26:00] xris: just wanted to get the card working as-is first, before trying to merge with dd listings.
[07:27:00] xris: I should try making a recording with it to see if it's a frontend-only type bug.
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[07:27:00] j-rod: I changed the channel numbers for everything to match Comcast's HD lineup, set the channels to use zap2it info instead, then added the broadcast frequencies that I had from the v4l driver on my hd2k
[07:27:00] xris: but it's a hassle since it shows up first if I add the card, and won't let me switch to the pvr-150 for watching tv.
[07:27:00] j-rod: that's odd...
[07:28:00] j-rod: are they in the same machine?
[07:28:00] xris: yeah, that's pretty much what mchou's script is supposed to do.. it's just made for cable instead of ota, so needs some fixes.
[07:28:00] xris: no, different machines.
[07:28:00] xris: testing playback from my workstation.
[07:28:00] j-rod: aha
[07:28:00] j-rod: I was dinking around with live tv tonight myself
[07:28:00] xris: 100bT should be fine for bandwidth, though.
[07:28:00] j-rod: can't get off the two cards in my mbe
[07:29:00] xris: and I *did* have it receiving one channel for awhile... but was all skippy and had a huge black box around it (not scaling SD or something)
[07:29:00] j-rod: (never switches to any of my analog inputs)
[07:29:00] xris: odd
[07:31:00] j-rod: (the analog cards being in slave backends)
[07:31:00] j-rod: stay away from NBC when testing
[07:31:00] j-rod: they drop their signal strength way down outside prime-time
[07:31:00] j-rod: screws with my setup sometimes
[07:32:00] j-rod: (they being KING actually, not NBC)
[07:32:00] xris: well, I'm just trying to get ANY channel
[07:32:00] xris: but will keep that in mind for when to run the scan. heh.
[07:32:00] j-rod: heh
[07:33:00] xris: my signal strength is pretty good, considering my small antenna. can't get fox, which sucks. not even when I point my antenna toward it.
[07:33:00] xris: stupid boeing field in the way.
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[07:34:00] j-rod: which direction are you pointing for FOX?
[07:34:00] j-rod: (I get FOX out here)
[07:35:00] poonj: for some reason
[07:35:00] poonj: my signal for CBS sucks
[07:35:00] poonj: but KQED is awesome
[07:35:00] poonj: and the frequencies are 29 and 30 respectively
[07:35:00] xris: fox is supposedly almost due-west from me
[07:35:00] xris: the rest of the channels are almost straight north
[07:35:00] j-rod: dunno if it helps, but in the freqid field for all my DVB channels, I have the ATSC freqs
[07:35:00] j-rod: they're out across the sound on top of a hill
[07:35:00] xris: j-rod: you're not 1/4 mile from an airport
[07:36:00] j-rod: true
[07:36:00] xris: and you have a yagi antenna
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[07:36:00] j-rod: more like 20 miles
[07:36:00] xris: antennaweb basically bumps all of my channels one level of strength lower because I'm so close to boeing field.
[07:37:00] j-rod: bummer
[07:37:00] xris: http://tinyurl.com/as2cc
[07:38:00] xris: man, people post mythweb questions but give no error messages. what, do they think I'm psychic or something?
[07:39:00] j-rod: hm... I think antennaweb is pointing the wrong way for FOX
[07:39:00] j-rod: no, maybe not, never mind
[07:39:00] j-rod: says tacoma, but 255deg isn't tacoma
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[07:40:00] j-rod: but that doesn't seem right for across the sound either
[07:40:00] j-rod: I swear its about 270 from my office
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[07:41:00] j-rod: d'oh
[07:45:00] j-rod: been a while since I've looked at antennaweb... Now their data says I shouldn't be able to get anything but five crappy channels
[07:45:00] j-rod: While in reality, I get everything in the Seattle area...
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[07:47:00] xris: heh
[07:47:00] xris: well, I definitely don't get fox.
[07:47:00] xris: azap couldn't even receive crappy signal when I pointed the antenna that way.
[07:47:00] j-rod: they're my 2nd-worst signal to KING
[07:48:00] xris: though I will admit that I received dramatic differences in signal strength by moving the antenna a mere 2 feet left/right, so there could be some weird electrical in my walls or something.
[07:48:00] j-rod: but in this case, my distance may be of benefit, since it greatly narrowed the angle between fox and everything else on queen anne
[07:48:00] xris: yup
[07:48:00] xris: probably makes a big difference
[07:49:00] tpwalker1980: could anyone help me config my network settings on my knoppix system?
[07:51:00] j-rod: xris, any significant foliage outside?
[07:51:00] j-rod: could be causing multi-path issues
[07:51:00] xris: not that direction, no. just the neighbors house.
[07:51:00] j-rod: hm
[07:51:00] xris: but yeah. area could be a mess
[07:51:00] j-rod: I lucked out w/the big storm back in Dec of '03.
[07:51:00] xris: I'm happy with getting channel 4 — most anything jes would want to record is on there, anyway.
[07:52:00] j-rod: It took out a huge tree in my neighbors yard that screwed w/my signal
[07:52:00] xris: heh
[07:52:00] xris: huge storm.. I'm thinking winter of 1995
[07:52:00] xris: and then I'm feeling really old.
[07:54:00] j-rod: I think it was much less of a storm anywhere but Maple Valley
[07:55:00] j-rod: it destroyed a few houses out here (via fallen trees)
[07:55:00] j-rod: not much else anywhere else
[07:55:00] j-rod: | chanid | channum | freqid | sourceid | callsign | name | icon | finetune | videofilters | xmltvid | recpriority | contrast | brightness | colour | hue | tvformat | commfree | visible | outputfilters | useonairguide | mplexid | serviceid | atscsrcid |
[07:55:00] xris: I'm trying to remember where I was in 2003. and why my memory suck so badly.
[07:55:00] j-rod: | 6004 | 104 | 38–2 | 6 | KOMODT | KOMODT (KOMO-DT) | none | 0 | | 19629 | 0 | 32768 | 32768 | 32768 | 32768 | ATSC | 0 | 1 | | 0 | 77 | 3 | 1 |
[07:57:00] j-rod: not sure if any of that helps, but that's my db entry for KOMO in HD
[07:57:00] xris: I'd have to run a channel scan again.
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[07:57:00] LaggyMcGee: Is there any way to stream the audio and video from MythWeb?
[07:58:00] xris: LaggyMcGee: someone posted a patch to do something like that pre-.18. I haven't had a chance to look at incorporating it into the official package yet.
[07:58:00] LaggyMcGee: xris: ah, cool... thanks
[07:58:00] xris: I apparently don't have a link to it anymore. that's not good.
[07:58:00] xris: was called something like mythstreamtv
[07:59:00] LaggyMcGee: i'll google it
[07:59:00] ** xris really needs to stop playing in his yard and actually work on code. **
[08:00:00] ** j-rod really needs to play in the yard more **
[08:00:00] xris: heh
[08:01:00] xris: I like having a house.
[08:01:00] j-rod: I do and I don't
[08:01:00] j-rod: I'd like it more if I had more time to actually enjoy it
[08:01:00] xris: and as of this weekend, have no more rhododendrons in my yard. we don't like them (too messy), my sister does. works out well.
[08:01:00] xris: (OLD plants, didn't want to kill them)
[08:01:00] j-rod: GAWD, I want to move.......
[08:01:00] j-rod: (or maybe work from home again)
[08:01:00] xris: heh
[08:01:00] xris: yeah, you have a pretty sucky commute
[08:02:00] xris: esp. with wanting to spend time with your family.
[08:02:00] j-rod: and with another one on the way, I'll be needing even more
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[08:03:00] j-rod: hey, did I mention a buddy that works for a company that's owned by Real asked if I'd like to work w/him? :)
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[08:03:00] xris: I think so
[08:04:00] xris: I remember you saying that it wasn't musicnet
[08:04:00] ** j-rod has a terrible memory **
[08:04:00] j-rod: :)
[08:04:00] xris: me, too
[08:04:00] j-rod: yeah, gamehouse.com
[08:04:00] j-rod: wouldn't help much on the commute, its in Pioneer Sq.
[08:05:00] xris: ah
[08:05:00] xris: no, not much better
[08:05:00] xris: g would be better for you
[08:05:00] j-rod: on many levels
[08:06:00] j-rod: hurrying up and waiting
[08:06:00] j-rod: ...
[08:07:00] xris: heh
[08:08:00] j-rod: aha, looks like I screwed something up in the fixes branch...
[08:08:00] xris: ?
[08:08:00] j-rod: fubar'd something in live tv mode
[08:08:00] xris: oh, with dvb?
[08:08:00] j-rod: DB Error (getnextchannel)
[08:08:00] j-rod: no, in general
[08:09:00] j-rod: but I swear I pulled it straight from cvs
[08:09:00] xris: hmm
[08:09:00] xris: wouldn't be affecting me, anyway.
[08:09:00] j-rod: a misplaced AND in the query
[08:09:00] xris: oops
[08:09:00] xris: I should go to sleep
[08:11:00] xris: and now I get to start my archival of Good Eats all over again. yay.
[08:16:00] xris: but I must say, the pvr-150 makes some nice recordings.
[08:16:00] j-rod: heh
[08:16:00] j-rod: yeah, I should probably sleep too...
[08:16:00] j-rod: (bug squashed, -fixes branch updated)
[08:17:00] xris: cool
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[08:17:00] xris: I should check to see if any of my trac bugs have been fixed.
[08:18:00] j-rod: I'm way behind on my own trac bug list... :(
[08:23:00] xris: well, I was speaking of bugs IN trac. heh.
[08:24:00] xris: a couple that I put in for isaac
[08:25:00] xris: unfortunately, the one I really wanted to get fixed is more difficult than I thought, so it has to wait for some internal redesigning: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/ticket/950
[08:26:00] xris: I have to say, though. auto-closing/referencing of tickets from commit logs is nice. it just doesn't send ticket-related emails yet.
[08:28:00] xris: anyway, 'night all.
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[09:03:00] MiX-MaN: anyone know of a good gentoo mirror that will give me more then 10k/s?
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[09:07:00] lucas333: try mirror-select
[09:07:00] MiX-MaN: mirror-select ?
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[09:08:00] lucas333: read the gentoo handbook.
[09:12:00] MiX-MaN: man this is retarded
[09:12:00] MiX-MaN: went though every us server in there mirror list and they all are slow
[09:12:00] MiX-MaN: freak 1 hour+ to download 40 megs
[09:12:00] MiX-MaN: freaking*
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[09:19:00] Cardoe: I get over 1mbps on cable from a mirror
[09:19:00] Cardoe: so I think it's you who is slow
[09:19:00] Cardoe: ;)
[09:22:00] Cardoe: lucas333: what's the issue?
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[09:30:00] lucas333: I have no issue :)
[09:30:00] lucas333: of relevance :p
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[10:22:00] iMil: hi there
[10:23:00] iMil: what is "the right way" to change capture resolution (v4l / bt848) ?
[10:24:00] iMil: i want to stream tv over a 11b wireless link but 640x480 is way to heavy for the link and the machine encoding the stream
[10:25:00] iMil: so i'd rather encode in 352x288, that's what i did with vlc but myth is so much nicer looking :)
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[10:49:00] johnp_: Anyone in the uk got a wintv card to work ? I can get an image out of tvtime, but mythtv is just confusing me. I assume I should just need to enter 55 which then maps to the local frequency table to tune in ?
[11:12:00] lucas333: iMil: under recording profiles you can set what resolution you want to encode in.
[11:12:00] iMil: even for live streaming ?
[11:12:00] iMil: i mean, tv streaming
[11:12:00] iMil: ok then, thanks a lot
[11:12:00] lucas333: yeah I think so.. there is a LiveTV recording profile.
[11:13:00] iMil: i'll try this thanks
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[11:26:00] tpwalker1980: what Card type should be used with a WinTV 878 based pci card in the capture card setup?
[11:26:00] johnp_: v4l I
[11:26:00] johnp_: s/I// :)
[11:27:00] tpwalker1980: and if it's the only capture card in the pc, video device should be /dev/video0 right?
[11:30:00] johnp_: should be
[11:32:00] tpwalker1980: hmm wonder why I can't get a signal from the card
[11:32:00] johnp_: mythtv only or tvtime as well ?
[11:33:00] johnp_: or scantv even ?
[11:33:00] tpwalker1980: just trying mythtv right now
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[12:14:00] JohnnyST: hi
[12:14:00] JohnnyST: Is there some place I could download 0.18 debs?
[12:14:00] JohnnyST: can be source as well.
[12:22:00] Agrajag-: hmm heaps of people are asking for them
[12:22:00] Agrajag-: perhaps i'll make some
[12:22:00] Agrajag-: i'll check if anyone is already doing it though
[12:23:00] JohnnyST: Yes I was thinking of upgrading to 0.18 but I can not find any source or precompiled debs so it would be great if you could help out :)
[12:25:00] Agrajag-: you can't just compile from source?
[12:27:00] JohnnyST: I could try that..
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[13:06:00] furfurfur: anyone using an Epia M-10000 board and hardware MPEG decoding?
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[13:21:00] slyboots: Hi
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[13:23:00] slyboots: Im just kind of curious is there any sort of "recomended" card for MythTV?
[13:24:00] slyboots: Im thinking of getting a DTV card for Freeview and that sort of gunk, preferably with onboard MPEG2 encodeing/decodeing cabilities
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[13:28:00] johnp_: you don't need on board encoding, it's transmitted as mpeg.
[13:28:00] slyboots: You still need to render the stream though
[13:29:00] GreyFoxx: define render in that context
[13:29:00] slyboots: Actuly, the graphics card could handle that with no problems..
[13:29:00] slyboots: So, Any DVB card will do?
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[13:30:00] GreyFoxx: Likely, assuming you can get myth/your system to see it. You might want to try #DVB for DVB specific stuff
[13:31:00] slyboots: I dont have the card yet, Still shopping :D
[13:35:00] slyboots: Im slightly confused about something, (TV releated though) "Freeview" and "Sat cards" are two totaly different things right?
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[13:41:00] iMil: bye ppl
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[13:44:00] nawab: slyboots: digital TV is all related in a way but hardware is incompatible between cable/terestrial/satalite
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[13:44:00] slyboots: Yea, thats what I figured
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[13:44:00] slyboots: I wonder if there is a combonation card
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[14:42:00] furfurfur: hey all. How does MythTV handle having both a DVB-S and a DVB-T card in a machine. Does it all work OK?
[14:54:00] CyberKnet: furfurfur: no idea
[14:57:00] johnp_: furfurfur. Can't think of a reason why it wouldn't
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[15:20:00] Super_Cat_Frog: hi – im having problems with my dvb card – all the modules are loaded, a frontend is registered but i have no /dev/dvb. im using debian sarge (udev)
[15:20:00] Super_Cat_Frog: oh ye, and the card works flawlessly in gentoo
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[17:34:00] furfurfur: hey all. Does mythfilldatabase get run automatically? or should i cron it?
[17:37:00] CyberKnet: either
[17:37:00] CyberKnet: it can run automatically by the back end if you are in North America and use DataDirect
[17:37:00] CyberKnet: or you can set up a cron to run mythfilldatabase
[17:37:00] furfurfur: I'm in the UK, using xmltv, so perhaps cron then?
[17:37:00] CyberKnet: I believe so
[17:39:00] ** CyberKnet chows down on last nights left over smoked sausage and chicken **
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[17:41:00] CyberKnet: so good, it seems sinful.
[17:41:00] CyberKnet: I wonder what this chickens name was
[17:41:00] CyberKnet: I bet it was "Juicy"
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[17:42:00] furfurfur: you're making me hungry!
[17:42:00] CyberKnet: making me hungry too, and I'm eating it! =)
[17:42:00] furfurfur: Well looks like I can have myth automatically run even though I'm not using DD
[17:43:00] CyberKnet: furfurfur: top stuff
[17:43:00] kormoc: it's evil! it's akin to drinking saltwater!
[17:43:00] Cromz_: maybe it was clucky
[17:44:00] Cromz_: clucky finger licking good. was it's full name :>
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[17:44:00] CyberKnet: well, whatever clucky juicy's name was, it's done with now =)
[17:45:00] CyberKnet: Food like this really makes me realize what crap I normally eat "because it's close"
[17:46:00] CyberKnet: Cheese smoked sausage, and Montreal Chicken
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[17:47:00] CyberKnet: last night the smoked sausage would burst in your mouth when you chewed it, and flood your pallete... the chicken was so tender and juicy it almost didn't need to be chewed. nuking it in the microwave (damn near wrote microsoft! heh) took away from that somewhat today, but all in all, still exceptionally tasty.
[17:48:00] CyberKnet: wash it all down with a luke-warm coke, and I'm still pretty happy.
[17:48:00] furfurfur: How many thumbs up? :)
[17:48:00] CyberKnet: one and three quarters
[17:48:00] CyberKnet: today
[17:48:00] CyberKnet: two last night.
[17:48:00] xris: CyberKnet: kormoc is one recommendation away from finishing his freeflatscreens.. got anyone who can help him out?
[17:48:00] CyberKnet: quite honestly last night it was the best chicken I had ever had.
[17:49:00] CyberKnet: xris: Hmmm..... I've already filled out one there :|
[17:49:00] CyberKnet: as has my brother :|
[17:49:00] kormoc: Aww.
[17:49:00] CyberKnet: I'll ask around though
[17:49:00] kormoc: thanks muchly :)
[17:49:00] CyberKnet: someone may do it just to see if you will get it
[17:49:00] ** kormoc nods **
[17:49:00] ** xris only needs 7 more.  ;) **
[17:49:00] ** xris gave up long ago **
[17:49:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: of course, you're going to sign up on my freeminimac.com right? =P"
[17:50:00] CyberKnet: xris: I didn't even get *one* for freeflatscreens =P"
[17:50:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[17:50:00] kormoc: sure, I'll sign up in exchange for someone else :)
[17:50:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: I'll give you my url when I find someone to sign up for you =)
[17:50:00] ** CyberKnet really wants a mac mini **
[17:50:00] CyberKnet: would be a nice addition next to my free ipod
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[17:50:00] ** kormoc nods **
[17:51:00] CyberKnet: (ipod already received)
[17:51:00] kormoc: nice!
[17:51:00] CyberKnet: yep.
[17:51:00] ** xris got a mac mini the easy way. beg the boss. **
[17:51:00] CyberKnet: quite surprising. I was one of the "For sure it's a scam" naysayers
[17:51:00] CyberKnet: xris: hah!
[17:51:00] CyberKnet: xris: beg for me too, then =)
[17:52:00] xris: heh
[17:52:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: One could almost say that I asked five people to sign up for the freeipods thing so that I could prove it was a scam. =)
[17:52:00] CyberKnet: imagine my surprise when I got a DHL tracking number =)
[17:53:00] kormoc: Yeah, really :)
[17:53:00] ** CyberKnet loves his iPod **
[17:53:00] CyberKnet: speaking of which, it needs charging. have to plug it in =)
[17:53:00] ** xris doesn't use his ipod **
[17:53:00] kormoc: I'm gonna get a ipod someday...
[17:53:00] CyberKnet: xris: darn shame that is, too.
[17:54:00] CyberKnet: I use mine every day on the way home from work
[17:54:00] kormoc: likly at a yard sale for like $15 broken :P
[17:54:00] CyberKnet: I use it instead of my cd stacker
[17:54:00] CyberKnet: 6 cd stacker, or 200,000,000 song collection. Hmmmm...
[17:54:00] ** CyberKnet is slightly exaggerating his song collection there =P" **
[17:55:00] xris: CyberKnet: no use.
[17:55:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: or I could give you a referral link to sign up for a free ipod too ;)
[17:56:00] CyberKnet: xris: Yeah, you have no tape deck, do you?
[17:56:00] xris: NPR is more interesting.
[17:56:00] xris: my car has a tape deck, wife's doesn't (but has itrip)
[17:56:00] CyberKnet: well, there is that too... but I'm just not an NPR kind of guy
[17:56:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, I've signed up for a free ipod and a free photoipod, just can't get the people to sign up
[17:56:00] CyberKnet: I never listen to or watch any news shows.
[17:56:00] xris: my commute is only 10 minutes, too.
[17:56:00] CyberKnet: my commute is 20 minutes if I go straight to work, 30 minutes if I stop for breakfast.
[17:57:00] CyberKnet: "fast" food my ass.
[17:57:00] CyberKnet: "I could have cooked the eggs MYSELF in this time!"
[17:58:00] ** xris won't touch that stuff with a 10 foot pole **
[17:59:00] kormoc: Mmm... Egg McMuffin...
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[18:00:00] CyberKnet: Sausage, Egg and Cheese McMuffin
[18:00:00] poonj: anyone here get a roslyn PVR-250 to work?>
[18:00:00] CyberKnet: not on a damn biscuit like everyone around here seems to prefer.
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[18:08:00] ** Beirdo hands CyberKnet a dog biscuit **
[18:09:00] ** CyberKnet pukes on Beirdo **
[18:09:00] CyberKnet: speaking of puke
[18:09:00] CyberKnet: that was SOME party I had friday night =)
[18:09:00] CyberKnet: woooooo
[18:09:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:09:00] Beirdo: poor sheep
[18:09:00] ** CyberKnet did _not_ puke **
[18:10:00] Beirdo: suuuure
[18:10:00] Beirdo: passed out first?
[18:10:00] CyberKnet: hell no
[18:10:00] CyberKnet: I'm Australian.
[18:11:00] CyberKnet: we don't have blood in our veins
[18:11:00] CyberKnet: we have liquor flowing through them.
[18:11:00] CyberKnet: .02 bac would be nigh on death level for us.
[18:11:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:11:00] CyberKnet: we'd have to down a bottle of scotch to bring the bac back upp
[18:11:00] CyberKnet: win 4
[18:11:00] CyberKnet: gah
[18:11:00] Beirdo: heh
[18:11:00] Beirdo: you suck
[18:11:00] Beirdo: :)
[18:12:00] CyberKnet: I do
[18:12:00] CyberKnet: very much so
[18:14:00] defaultro: good afternoon guys
[18:14:00] Beirdo: what's so good about it?
[18:14:00] defaultro: huh
[18:14:00] defaultro: what's wrong with you again :)
[18:15:00] defaultro: hey Beirdo, familiar with ipod? Do you know other portable device better than this?
[18:15:00] ** Beirdo looks at the calendar... still Monday **
[18:15:00] defaultro: i hear yah :)
[18:15:00] Beirdo: "better" is such a subjective thing
[18:16:00] defaultro: im actually absent, going to the doctor later, my throat and right is very painful and itchy
[18:16:00] Beirdo: go play with a bunch of different ones, and come to your own conclusions :)
[18:16:00] defaultro: i only know ipod, that's the problem
[18:16:00] defaultro: which looks cool though?
[18:16:00] Beirdo: how should I know.
[18:16:00] Beirdo: google's right there :)
[18:17:00] kormoc: irivers look cool
[18:17:00] defaultro: ok
[18:17:00] defaultro: looking
[18:17:00] CyberKnet: "cool" is a very subjective term
[18:17:00] CyberKnet: for example
[18:17:00] CyberKnet: I think the leisure suit and 8-tracks are cool
[18:17:00] CyberKnet: your mileage may vary
[18:17:00] CyberKnet: widely
[18:17:00] CyberKnet: =)
[18:17:00] defaultro: ok
[18:18:00] xris: CyberKnet: how is that subjective?
[18:18:00] CyberKnet: xris: hah =)
[18:18:00] xris: 8-tracks rock.
[18:18:00] CyberKnet: xris: how about the leisure suit?
[18:18:00] defaultro: looking too
[18:19:00] defaultro: so 8-tracks is the brand?
[18:19:00] CyberKnet: defaultro: good god. No.
[18:19:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[18:19:00] defaultro: oh ok
[18:19:00] kormoc: defaultro, a 8track was pre-cassette tape.
[18:19:00] ** CyberKnet watches his point make flying circles over defaultro's head **
[18:19:00] CyberKnet: again, and again! Whooo... here it comes.... aaah! there it went again
[18:19:00] defaultro: :)
[18:19:00] CyberKnet: whiiiirrrrrr! it just went over again.
[18:20:00] defaultro: i think, that's the color white thick ones
[18:20:00] defaultro: back in 1970s
[18:20:00] ** kormoc nods **
[18:20:00] defaultro: gotcha
[18:20:00] kormoc: the point was
[18:20:00] kormoc: CyberKnet may think the goatse.cx man is cool, where I do not, so you get a wide idea of what is cool
[18:20:00] Beirdo: the point is, go look for yourself and come to your own conclusions... for "better" and "cool"
[18:21:00] defaultro: ok
[18:21:00] Beirdo: others can say their opinions, but it's yours that matters in the end
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[18:21:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: Exactly. Just like you may think it would be cool to drink from the tubgirl fount, whilst I find it abhorant. and even that adjective is not enough.
[18:21:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: and dont use
[18:21:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[18:21:00] Beirdo: and yet you keep bringing it up
[18:21:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: and dont use "wide" in the same sentance as goatse... I'm scarred for life =)
[18:22:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: he started it with the goatse guy =)
[18:22:00] ** kormoc laughs. **
[18:22:00] ** CyberKnet points at kormoc **
[18:22:00] Beirdo: sheep fscker :)
[18:22:00] CyberKnet: hand fscker
[18:22:00] CyberKnet: :)
[18:22:00] CyberKnet: And we all know who is telling the truth here =)
[18:23:00] Beirdo: yeah, me
[18:23:00] CyberKnet: uhuh. sure. =)
[18:23:00] Beirdo: you're Aussie with Scottish tendencies, don't try to deny it :)
[18:23:00] ** CyberKnet sends Beirdo a gift certificate to liberator.com **
[18:23:00] CyberKnet: NSFW
[18:24:00] Beirdo: heh
[18:24:00] CyberKnet: thought I should add that before you all get logged by the proxy =)
[18:24:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:24:00] CyberKnet: "what the hell are liberator shapes... GAH!"
[18:25:00] CyberKnet: [X] ... [X] ... [X] ... close dammit!
[18:26:00] Beirdo: heh
[18:26:00] Beirdo: silly boy
[18:26:00] CyberKnet: good for a source of free pr0n though.
[18:26:00] CyberKnet: if pr0n is your kind of thing.
[18:27:00] xris: CyberKnet: you call that pr0n?
[18:27:00] ** Beirdo grumbles and curses and opens PowerPoint **
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[18:28:00] Beirdo: making training slides. PUKE
[18:29:00] CyberKnet: xris: there are video files present
[18:29:00] CyberKnet: but it's all very soft core
[18:29:00] xris: heh
[18:29:00] Beirdo: silly boy
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[18:30:00] Beirdo: Any suggestions as to PowerPoint-compatible music that I should listen to while writing this shite?
[18:31:00] laga: cannibal corpse – hammer smashed face
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[18:31:00] Beirdo: um, no
[18:31:00] laga: sounds like a good song for power point
[18:32:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: Celine Dion ... Because You Loved Me
[18:32:00] CyberKnet: hah
[18:32:00] Beirdo: I think that the Metallica – Ride The Lightning album might be a good choice
[18:32:00] Beirdo: CyberKnet: Like I have any of that wench's crap
[18:33:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: well then... how about Michael Bolton – How am I supposed to live without you
[18:33:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:33:00] ** CyberKnet votes for Reload **
[18:33:00] Lxy: has anyone attempted a Dreamcast frontend for Myth?
[18:33:00] CyberKnet: or Black
[18:33:00] Beirdo: sadly, I have that no-talent assclown's song at home
[18:33:00] CyberKnet: Lxy: likely not
[18:33:00] Beirdo: I don't have either of those albums ripped at work right now, CyberKnet
[18:34:00] Lxy: is it even feasible to try?
[18:34:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: your loss.
[18:34:00] MiX-MaN: Beirdo: any blues should do :)
[18:34:00] CyberKnet: Lxy: You'd need to see if the supporting libraries had versions that would compile on the DC cpu
[18:34:00] Beirdo: Metallica will keep me awake though.
[18:34:00] CyberKnet: what cpu does the dc use?
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[18:34:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: how about Load?
[18:34:00] Lxy: CyberKnet: I believe it is ARM based
[18:34:00] Beirdo: it's at home
[18:34:00] CyberKnet: Lxy: You may get lucky, but it seems unlikely
[18:34:00] Beirdo: somewhere
[18:35:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: well then your SOL AFAIAC =)
[18:35:00] Beirdo: Ride The Lightning is good stuff
[18:35:00] mshields: dreamcast uses a 200mhz sh-4
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[18:35:00] Beirdo: back when Mustaine was just about to get kicked out, I think
[18:35:00] Beirdo: or just was
[18:36:00] mshields: i don't think the video hardware has been reverse-engineered enough to get good enough video speed...
[18:36:00] mshields: but lxy it's a good idea ... i'll attempt to compile it for giggles
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[18:37:00] Lxy: mshields: it'd make for a nice conversation piece if nothing else
[18:37:00] Lxy: being able to run a frontend on console hardware would smooth it over with my wife at least
[18:38:00] mshields: might be able to do it if a backend could transcode down to like vcd-quality in realtime
[18:39:00] mshields: i can play vcd's on my dcast, so i know it can handle that much
[18:39:00] mshields: would need the broadband adapter, got that?
[18:39:00] CyberKnet: Lxy: You can run it on XBox, which is console hardware
[18:40:00] CyberKnet: Lxy: and the current work to get it running on a Mac will be useful when the XBox2 comes out which looks much more like living room stuff than the XBox
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[18:40:00] CyberKnet: assuming, of course, that they can bootstrap linux on the hardware
[18:40:00] CyberKnet: I'd be surprised if they couldn't
[18:41:00] laga: you can even run linux on the dbox2. i'm currently working on it and it just won't boot.
[18:41:00] laga: *sigh*
[18:41:00] Beirdo: CyberKnet: buy one and find out :)
[18:41:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: September, buddy.
[18:41:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: XBox2 doesn't come out until September.
[18:41:00] Beirdo: meh
[18:41:00] CyberKnet: I'm still trying to figure out if I'm going to get one at that point in time.
[18:41:00] CyberKnet: probably not.
[18:42:00] Beirdo: I doubt I'd even get the Xbox
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[18:42:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: Halo2 and XBL... make it all worth while =)
[18:42:00] Beirdo: meh
[18:42:00] CyberKnet: 8 vs 8 on containment, and you're in for a long night =)
[18:42:00] Beirdo: I don't have time for that shite
[18:42:00] CyberKnet: of course you dont.
[18:42:00] CyberKnet: heh
[18:43:00] laga: that's the reason why you bought the athlon 64 machine, huh? :>
[18:43:00] Beirdo: partly :)
[18:43:00] topping: does this sound familiar to anyone that knows how to solve: when i use myth frontend on a new box, QT highlights the correct GUI buttons, but when i hit return, nothing happens
[18:43:00] laga: ;)
[18:43:00] CyberKnet: laga: If halo2 and xbl were available on the athlon64 you can guarantee I wouldn't be laying the xbox =)
[18:44:00] laga: hehe
[18:44:00] ** CyberKnet likes gaming at 1600x1200, not 352x480 **
[18:45:00] CyberKnet: s/352x480/NTSC/
[18:45:00] CyberKnet: stupid user
[18:45:00] laga: hehe
[18:45:00] ** Beirdo likes gaming in 80x80 or so **
[18:45:00] ** kormoc games in 80x24 **
[18:46:00] Beirdo: I usually extend it to x80 :)
[18:46:00] Beirdo: heh
[18:46:00] kormoc: nethack doesn't like it extended :)
[18:46:00] Beirdo: stuff spews by too quickly otherwise
[18:46:00] Beirdo: heh
[18:46:00] ** Beirdo muds **
[18:46:00] kormoc: I mud too :)
[18:46:00] kormoc: in which case I tend to use 80x120
[18:46:00] Beirdo: heh
[18:46:00] Beirdo: yeah, 80xheight of screen in zMud
[18:47:00] kormoc: I use kmuddy, and I like it a lot
[18:47:00] Beirdo: I have like half the mud mapped in zMud, and I paid for it, so...
[18:50:00] Beirdo: the beginning of Fade To Black has much the same progressions as The Unforgiven
[18:50:00] Beirdo: I never really noticed before
[18:50:00] Beirdo: heh
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[19:06:00] mag0o: mmm, Metallica
[19:06:00] defaultro: mag0o, that reminds me of troubleshooting mythmusic
[19:06:00] CyberKnet: The Unforgiven II has much the same progressions as The Unforgiven. Did anybody ever notice that?!#?!@$ *grin*
[19:07:00] Beirdo: well, duh
[19:07:00] ** Beirdo slaps CyberKnet **
[19:07:00] defaultro: found out yesterday that mythmusic is not able to play m4a files :(
[19:07:00] Beirdo: did you notice the key change?
[19:07:00] CyberKnet: I'm not making fun of you... honest =P"
[19:07:00] CyberKnet: Did you?
[19:07:00] CyberKnet: =P"
[19:07:00] ** CyberKnet ducks again **
[19:07:00] Beirdo: well DUH
[19:07:00] ** Beirdo kicks CyberKnet **
[19:07:00] defaultro: so you guys know of any workaround to play m4a files?
[19:08:00] Beirdo: pretty sure mythmusic will do it if you compile it in
[19:08:00] defaultro: oh ok
[19:08:00] defaultro: i will have to recompile it then again
[19:08:00] defaultro: what about wma files?
[19:09:00] defaultro: --enable-aac :)
[19:09:00] defaultro: so what library do I need for this?
[19:09:00] defaultro: just want to make sure if I have it
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[19:11:00] Beirdo: RTFM
[19:12:00] Beirdo: there are READMEs for a reason
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[19:15:00] xris: so GeckoFiend, any signups for lxmsuite?
[19:17:00] defaultro: thanks Beirdo
[19:17:00] GeckoFiend: xris I've not been keeping real close tabs on it... I know they have some. I expect they'll start getting more when 1) Isaac chimes in with his blessings 2) .18.1 comes out
[19:17:00] defaultro: I just installed it
[19:17:00] laga: 0.18.1 is out?
[19:17:00] GeckoFiend: laga not yet
[19:17:00] GeckoFiend: later this week
[19:17:00] laga: ok ;)
[19:17:00] defaultro: what are some fixes though?
[19:17:00] ** laga is still running 0.17... **
[19:20:00] GeckoFiend: defaultro I'm not sure what all is in it. The big reason it's coming out now is to put support for LxMSuite into more hands than just the CVS users
[19:20:00] defaultro: what does LxMSuite do?
[19:20:00] GeckoFiend: defaultro http://www.lxmsuite.com
[19:21:00] defaultro: ok
[19:21:00] j-rod: there's also a number of small bugfixes in 0.18.1 and internal channel-change support for DCT-6200 cable boxes
[19:22:00] defaultro: i like this bullet :) New themes: New graphic themes each month to make your favorite software look it's best.
[19:22:00] defaultro: oh cool j-rod
[19:22:00] GeckoFiend: defaultro: http://www.lxmsuite.com/themes.htm
[19:22:00] defaultro: ok
[19:23:00] defaultro: wow, that's awesome!
[19:23:00] defaultro: is that theme out?
[19:24:00] GeckoFiend: defaultro should be by the end of the week. it's in the polish stages for the most part
[19:24:00] defaultro: that's really awesome
[19:24:00] defaultro: and is it gonna be included in the .1 release?
[19:24:00] MiX-MaN: hmm cant find the ubuntu myth howto guide... anyone know where it is? :)
[19:25:00] GeckoFiend: defaultro no
[19:25:00] CyberKnet: GeckoFiend: So the plan is one new theme every month?
[19:25:00] defaultro: i like the aqua buttons
[19:25:00] GeckoFiend: it's available to LxMSuite subscribers.
[19:25:00] defaultro: :)
[19:25:00] defaultro: how much is the subscription?
[19:25:00] laga: $5/month
[19:25:00] laga: atm.
[19:25:00] GeckoFiend: it's all on their site
[19:26:00] defaultro: ok
[19:26:00] defaultro: not too bad
[19:27:00] MiX-MaN: found it
[19:27:00] CyberKnet: GeckoFiend: Tribune Media Services != zap2it ... correct?
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[19:28:00] j-rod: zap2it is a service of TMS
[19:29:00] CyberKnet: I see
[19:29:00] defaultro: bam, no issues compiling mythplugins with aac support :)
[19:30:00] CyberKnet: all my aac are protected
[19:31:00] defaultro: since aac were not imported properly yesterday, should I just delete my existing playlist?
[19:31:00] defaultro: i mean, my m4a files
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[19:32:00] defaultro: i would like to reimport all of my songs again in /video/music
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[20:11:00] ** CyberKnet overfeeds the trout **
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[20:12:00] slyboots: Hi
[20:12:00] Beirdo: heh
[20:12:00] ** xris whacks CyberKnet with the holy trout. **
[20:12:00] xris: not quite as effective as a holy hand grenade, but it'll do.
[20:12:00] CyberKnet: the trout was already whacking me =)
[20:12:00] CyberKnet: on account for feeding it
[20:13:00] slyboots: I've ran into a weird problem with mythtv, Reached the "mythtv-setup" stage, but when I run it it comes up grey instead of blue and after the Delete Card/Channel settings it dumps back to the command line
[20:13:00] CyberKnet: I guess it gets pretty happy about food.
[20:13:00] xris: I don't think you can overfeed Beirdo's trout. just makes them bigger/heavier so they hurt more.
[20:13:00] MiX-MaN: hmm.. this sux.. this howto left out the mysql section
[20:13:00] xris: slyboots: is the database running?
[20:13:00] slyboots: the mysql? should be..
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[20:14:00] slyboots: there is a mythconverg table in SQL
[20:14:00] slyboots: and a mythtv user
[20:15:00] slyboots: Couldn't find theme blue
[20:15:00] slyboots: If this is the master backend server:
[20:15:00] slyboots: then it goes on about running mythfillbackend, thats it
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[20:17:00] CyberKnet: slyboots: so go find the theme "blue"
[20:17:00] slyboots: Should it not be in the archive?
[20:17:00] CyberKnet: I have no idea. I install from atrpms
[20:18:00] CyberKnet: I have never had a problem.
[20:18:00] slyboots: well its in the folder with the files, so it's there alright
[20:18:00] xris: slyboots: sounds like you're missing the myth themes
[20:18:00] xris: slyboots: check out the myththemes package. would have thought that isaac would put the default theme in the main mythtv package, but maybe not.
[20:18:00] slyboots: I just unpacked the tarball and followed the guide
[20:18:00] slyboots: I can see the sourcefiles for "blue" in the /mythtv source tarball
[20:19:00] slyboots: so its there alright
[20:19:00] xris: odd
[20:19:00] xris: slyboots: which distro?
[20:19:00] slyboots: Debian, built from source
[20:19:00] slyboots: I cant get the Debian package to work at all :P
[20:19:00] xris: odd. but there isn't a package for .18 yet, anyway, afaik.
[20:19:00] slyboots: Yea
[20:20:00] xris: anyway, what's in /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes ?
[20:20:00] slyboots: blue, blueosd , classic, default, defaultosd, G.A.N.T and oldosd
[20:21:00] xris: odd
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[20:21:00] slyboots: Indeed]
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[20:22:00] slyboots: Still not working..
[20:22:00] slyboots: Bit shit realy...
[20:24:00] slyboots: any idea what might be wrong?
[20:25:00] xris: no clue. never run into anything like that, compiling from source or otherwise.
[20:25:00] xris: can you do an strace?
[20:26:00] slyboots: What do you mean..?
[20:26:00] xris: if you don't know what strace is, it won't help you.
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[20:30:00] ** slyboots systamicly deletes every trace of mythtv from his sysyem **
[20:31:00] Beirdo: hehe
[20:31:00] slyboots: Right, Thats about it
[20:31:00] slyboots: No more mythtv folders anywhere..
[20:31:00] Beirdo: have a good life
[20:32:00] slyboots: No, Im going to try and reinstall it
[20:32:00] Beirdo: ahh :)
[20:32:00] slyboots: Just want to make sure there is nothing left at all to do with Myth left on the system.. Oh! SQL
[20:32:00] slyboots: Right..
[20:34:00] ** slyboots runs updatedb for.. fun **
[20:35:00] kormoc: and profit!
[20:35:00] slyboots: lol
[20:35:00] CyberKnet: 1. Run updatedb ; 2. ?????????? ; 3. Profit!
[20:35:00] slyboots: Sounds like a plan!
[20:35:00] CyberKnet: please, I am very good at 1. What is 2?
[20:35:00] CyberKnet: I need some profit =)
[20:37:00] kormoc: become a male giggalo?
[20:37:00] Beirdo: he wants to make a profit
[20:37:00] j-rod: xris, I've got some additions for your spec I'll send you momentarily...
[20:38:00] Beirdo: pimp out the sheep
[20:38:00] Beirdo: gotta be some frat boys around somewhere
[20:38:00] j-rod: (mainly just comment in the section you requested them from Axel — basically, its all about being able to build on x86_64)
[20:39:00] j-rod: s/lib/%{_lib}/ on x86_64 replaces lib with lib64
[20:39:00] xris: cool
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[20:40:00] beavis: i have both here /lib and /lib64
[20:40:00] ** slyboots runs make.. again **
[20:40:00] xris: slePP: got a request for your pastebin.. could you save the "save this in a cookie" checkbox state in a cookie, too?
[20:40:00] j-rod: but first, time to zap my left-over polla a la crema
[20:41:00] ** beavis tests danielk's latest amd64 commits **
[20:43:00] slePP: xris: makes sense :>
[20:47:00] slePP: xris: should be done
[20:48:00] CyberKnet: slePP: many comments yet?
[20:48:00] slePP: almost none
[20:49:00] slePP: received 1 private comment
[20:49:00] slePP: that's actually it
[20:49:00] slePP: then the convo we had in the one big thread
[20:49:00] CyberKnet: I only had one comment in that thread.
[20:50:00] slePP: well :>
[20:50:00] CyberKnet: I like the description field you added
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[20:51:00] slePP: heh
[20:51:00] slePP: it took a while before people figured out what to use it for
[20:52:00] slePP: (which surprised me)
[20:52:00] CyberKnet: I'd prolly cookie-ize the content type too with a short expiration.
[20:52:00] slePP: 15mins?
[20:53:00] CyberKnet: Yeah. Save whether it was set by cookie or by click, and the ip, then you can do some empirical checking to find the optimal type
[20:53:00] CyberKnet: =P""
[20:53:00] CyberKnet: s/optimal type/optimal length/
[20:56:00] slePP: er..
[20:56:00] slePP: 'optimal length'?
[20:57:00] CyberKnet: duration for the cookie
[20:57:00] slePP: oh, okie
[20:58:00] CyberKnet: if 90% of returning users are re-setting it after 15 minutes to the same value they set it to last time... then you've got a case for extending it.
[20:58:00] CyberKnet: if 90% of the returning users are setting it to a different type within 15 minutes to a different value, you've got a case for shortening the duration
[20:58:00] CyberKnet: empirical methods are nearly always superior to the ozone extraction method.
[20:59:00] CyberKnet: =P"
[21:02:00] slePP: determining click vs. cookie may not be so easy :>
[21:02:00] CyberKnet: potentially =)
[21:02:00] MiX-MaN: aight.. anyone know of a guide for myth and ubuntu
[21:03:00] MiX-MaN: the one i found.. seems to miss.. about 700 steps
[21:03:00] CyberKnet: add a hidden field that indicates the value selected when you rendered the page
[21:03:00] CyberKnet: or something
[21:03:00] CyberKnet: you could do the same for subject and name... determine optimum durations for them too.
[21:06:00] topping: anyone using torrentocracy yet?
[21:08:00] GreyFoxx: Not I
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[21:09:00] slePP: nah, the subject/name is set to 90 days.. that seems to work
[21:09:00] slePP: plus there will soon be user accounts, so people can go say 'i want 1 year of expiry on name' or whatever
[21:10:00] slePP: also working on the "skinning" interface...
[21:10:00] slePP: lots of people don't like the colours/layout
[21:10:00] slePP: so there will be a 'simple' layout which gets rid of a _lot_ of bits'n'pieces
[21:10:00] slePP: and a few colours to choose from
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[21:12:00] slyboots: Right,, FFS!!
[21:12:00] slyboots: Its doing it again :P
[21:13:00] slyboots: the mythtv-setup just loads up, asks to delete the card/channel data, then dumps back to the command line
[21:13:00] CyberKnet: any chance you can link "general pastebin" to your main page?
[21:14:00] slePP: the top left corner one?
[21:15:00] CyberKnet: yep
[21:15:00] slyboots: Could not find theme: blue
[21:15:00] slyboots: Thats the only error message comes up :P
[21:15:00] CyberKnet: I dont know how difficult that would be under your current templating scheme
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[21:17:00] ** slyboots takes a stick to mythtv **
[21:17:00] ** CyberKnet watches the Holy Trout start winding up **
[21:18:00] slyboots: Has anyone else experianced this problem with mythtv-setup and the vanishing "blue" theme
[21:18:00] itisme: whats the best distro for mythtv?
[21:18:00] slePP: CyberKnet: done
[21:18:00] CyberKnet: slePP: There you go =) Nice work.
[21:18:00] j-rod: itisme: whatever distro you're most comfortable with
[21:18:00] CyberKnet: the lack of a home link had been bothering me for some unknown and illogical reason.
[21:19:00] itisme: i saw some problems with fc3?
[21:20:00] j-rod: I have no problems with FC3
[21:21:00] slePP: CyberKnet: there is one...
[21:21:00] slePP: or, not...
[21:21:00] slyboots: Shoudlnet I get like another menu asking me to setup my capture cards or something?
[21:21:00] slePP: new.php isn't a real file, it's just the index without the main page content :>
[21:22:00] GreyFoxx: Several people are having issues with FC3 and some version of QT. Something along the lines of being unable to select buttons, but as yet nothing I've seen to say exactly what it is
[21:22:00] CyberKnet: slePP: Yes, I never said the bothersomeness was logical =0
[21:23:00] mshields: yeah it's a pain
[21:23:00] mshields: gotta hit shift-enter to select buttons
[21:23:00] GreyFoxx: msheild: What version of QT is it?
[21:23:00] slyboots: So.. no-ones experianced this problem before..?
[21:23:00] mshields: enter makes it change color like it's "selected" but doesn't actually push the button
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[21:24:00] mshields: 1 sec
[21:24:00] mshields: i have qt-3.3.4–0.fc3.0
[21:24:00] GreyFoxx: slyboots: Then install blue ?
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[21:24:00] topping: wow, ripping cds is truly a slow process
[21:24:00] slyboots: Blue is instlaled
[21:24:00] CyberKnet: GreyFoxx: We've been telling him that for hours now.
[21:24:00] slyboots: Its comes with the Tarball!
[21:24:00] slyboots: Its IN the theme directory!
[21:24:00] CyberKnet: GreyFoxx: But he doesnt know how to use strace
[21:25:00] GreyFoxx: slyboots: strace it to see where it's looking
[21:25:00] GreyFoxx: ph
[21:25:00] GreyFoxx: oh
[21:25:00] GreyFoxx: then no idea
[21:25:00] CyberKnet: very painful.
[21:25:00] CyberKnet: slyboots: install strace, then man strace
[21:26:00] GreyFoxx: strace -s 1500 -f -o strace.log mythtv-setup
[21:26:00] GreyFoxx: then after the crash check strace.log
[21:26:00] GreyFoxx: Near the end you should see files it's attempted to open, including the "missing" blue theme
[21:26:00] GreyFoxx: compare the location to where theyare on your system
[21:27:00] GreyFoxx: wooo supper is ready
[21:27:00] GreyFoxx: *p00f*
[21:27:00] ** CyberKnet goes to upgrade several packages **
[21:28:00] slyboots: Wow, thats a lot of junk
[21:29:00] slyboots: Right, It looks for /home/slyboots/.mythtv/themes/blue :
[21:29:00] slyboots: /usr/share/mythtv/themes/blue
[21:29:00] slyboots: and /menutest/blue, all fail with no such file or directory
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[21:30:00] j-rod: ll -d /usr/share/mythtv/themes/blue ?
[21:30:00] slyboots: There is no mythtv subfolder in there at all
[21:31:00] slyboots: All goes into /usr/local/share/mythtv/..
[21:31:00] j-rod: well, there ya go
[21:32:00] j-rod: which mythtvfrontend ?
[21:32:00] slyboots: I cant even run Mythfrontend
[21:32:00] j-rod: your mythfrontend binary is looking in /usr/share
[21:32:00] slyboots: I am at mythtv-setup
[21:33:00] j-rod: ok, which mythtv-setup ?
[21:33:00] j-rod: your mythtv-setup binary is looking in /usr/share
[21:33:00] j0seph: is there a way to see where the binary is looking?
[21:33:00] j-rod: yes, strace, which he just did
[21:34:00] j0seph: what is the problem?
[21:34:00] j-rod: can't find the theme files
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[21:34:00] j0seph: i have the same problem
[21:34:00] j-rod: mythtv-setup is looking for blue in /usr/share/mythtv/themes
[21:34:00] j-rod: but its in /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes
[21:34:00] j-rod: so run the command "which mythtv-setup"
[21:34:00] j-rod: to see where mythtv-setup is getting launched from
[21:34:00] j-rod: my suspicion is a binary package install version hanging about
[21:35:00] j-rod: that, or fubar'd compile options
[21:35:00] slyboots: slyboots@ElanVital:/usr/share$ which mythtv-setup
[21:35:00] slyboots: /usr/local/bin/mythtv-setup
[21:36:00] j-rod: hm...
[21:37:00] slyboots: I've tried to hit it with a stick, but its not working very well
[21:37:00] Super_Cat_Frog: hi – can somebody help me scan for dvb channels in mythtv? ive done it before but i cant remember how to do it (argh)
[21:37:00] Super_Cat_Frog: im using the winterhill transmitter
[21:37:00] doczico: somebody can help me about cx88 config plzz ??
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[21:38:00] j-rod: slyboots, all I can guess is something got hosed at compile time...
[21:39:00] slyboots: So.. your saying I should stop using a stick.. and perhaps some sort of metal bat?
[21:40:00] slyboots: well, this is the 3rd install I've done today, and I've gone trhough my drive by hand removing every trace of myth
[21:40:00] mshields: ln -s /usr/local/share/mythtv /usr/share/mythtv ?
[21:40:00] slyboots: that works too
[21:41:00] slyboots: lol..
[21:41:00] j-rod: I prefer a good wood bat to a metal
[21:41:00] ** Beirdo high-fives j-rod **
[21:42:00] Beirdo: I always use wood bats
[21:42:00] Beirdo: :)
[21:42:00] ** j-rod now down low... **
[21:42:00] slyboots: Cheers mshields :D
[21:42:00] Beirdo: heh
[21:42:00] Beirdo: some butthead stole my good bat a few years ago
[21:42:00] mshields: ;)
[21:42:00] j-rod: I'm partial to breaking 'em
[21:42:00] Beirdo: nice hardball bat. Great for playing softball
[21:43:00] ** slePP takes off to work. **
[21:43:00] Beirdo: the weight balance works well for me, just belt the ball with it good
[21:43:00] j-rod: I think that's one of my favorite things about the league I'm playing in right now... Some of the fields have wood bat reqs (not sure exactly why)
[21:43:00] Beirdo: Cool
[21:43:00] j-rod: I still throw pretty hard, so I have fun busting guys inside...
[21:43:00] Beirdo: aluminum bats suck
[21:43:00] j-rod: kindling!
[21:43:00] Beirdo: TING!
[21:43:00] Beirdo: not a manly sound
[21:43:00] slyboots: Im a fan of the classical "Bat with nails"
[21:44:00] Beirdo: j-rod: you are a bastard :)
[21:44:00] Beirdo: hehe
[21:44:00] j-rod: damn skippy
[21:44:00] Beirdo: you'd better hope the bat doesn't spin right at you
[21:44:00] j-rod: I'm pretty sure once I'm back at it for a while, I should be getting it up over 90 again...
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[21:45:00] ** kormoc is happy with over 9. **
[21:45:00] j-rod: when that happens, the hitter better hope the next pitch doesn't earhole them...
[21:45:00] Beirdo: you break my bat, you'd have a good chance at getting nailed by the business end of it
[21:45:00] Beirdo: hey, it's the laws of physics
[21:45:00] kormoc: the newly sharp n pointy business end of it?
[21:45:00] slyboots: Right, Im off for a pint
[21:45:00] slyboots: Cheers all :
[21:45:00] Beirdo: no, the club end of it that's NOT in my hands
[21:45:00] slyboots: :D
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[21:46:00] niktaris: why can't I scan all channels in knoppmyth
[21:46:00] niktaris: ?
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[21:46:00] Super_Cat_Frog: sorry, iaccidently closed my konsole tab
[21:46:00] kormoc: Beirdo, the club end is also newly sharp and pointy on one side too
[21:46:00] Beirdo: that's true
[21:47:00] j-rod: depends on the break...
[21:47:00] Beirdo: and it would be rotating around nicely and hopefully aimed right at the pitcher unless the swing timing was off
[21:47:00] Beirdo: I tend to hit up the middle as much as I can :)
[21:47:00] Beirdo: hehe
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[21:47:00] j-rod: never been hit by the bat, but did get DRILLED by a hit ball a few times
[21:47:00] Beirdo: OUCH
[21:48:00] Beirdo: that would suck
[21:48:00] j-rod: yeah, in at 90+, out at 120+ w/them aluminium clubs
[21:48:00] Beirdo: I've gotten a line drive to the chest before at shortstop
[21:48:00] j-rod: took one off my thigh once and another off my ankle
[21:48:00] j-rod: was out of commission for a few weeks w/both
[21:48:00] Beirdo: the glove does SHIT to stop that
[21:49:00] Beirdo: I caught the ball though and got the bastard out
[21:49:00] Beirdo: then I walked off the field and sat down for a bit
[21:49:00] Beirdo: heh
[21:49:00] j-rod: its even more fun when you're 1) much closer and 2) not exactly well-balanced when the ball is hit
[21:49:00] Beirdo: yeah
[21:49:00] Beirdo: not much reaction time to be had
[21:49:00] Beirdo: especially playing baseball rather than softball
[21:49:00] kormoc: easy, you need to follow the fire rules
[21:50:00] kormoc: wind up, throw, drop and roll
[21:50:00] Beirdo: hehe
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[21:50:00] Beirdo: it always amazes me to see the reaction times of the pitchers
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[21:51:00] j-rod: In 15+ years, I've only been hit a few times, I usually catch it (or dodge) :)
[21:51:00] Beirdo: yeah
[21:51:00] Beirdo: but you are right in the immediate line of fire :)
[21:51:00] Beirdo: heh
[21:52:00] Beirdo: and there was one time I intentionally aimed at the pitcher
[21:52:00] j-rod: the key, of course, is to just strike everyone out
[21:52:00] ** kormoc raises a eyebrow **
[21:52:00] bin-doph: hi, I cant get mythfilldatabase --manual to work. I keep getting 401-errors but (no 200 at the end, as the docs say)
[21:52:00] kormoc: you can *aim* when hitting a ball?!?!
[21:52:00] Beirdo: we were playing in a league (softball) where we had to supply our own pitcher for whatever retarded reason
[21:52:00] niktaris: I need to complete a basic setup of knoppmyth after installation. Any links?
[21:52:00] ** kormoc bows in awe of the sporty geeks. **
[21:53:00] Beirdo: oh, and it was 3-pitch
[21:53:00] j-rod: heh
[21:53:00] Beirdo: and this bastard was all over the place, couldn't get it over the plate... a coworker too
[21:53:00] j-rod: yeah, kormoc, it was an interesting experience being a full scholarship athlete in college that actually wanted classes more advanced than basket weaving...
[21:53:00] bin-doph: is there a way to get to the zap2it.com-data-source for mythfilldatabase?
[21:53:00] Beirdo: so he managed to get it over the plate, and I drilled it right at him :)
[21:53:00] Beirdo: he got the idea... we switched pitchers
[21:54:00] Beirdo: I hit the jerk too.
[21:54:00] Beirdo: he gave me hell at work the next day (big surprise)
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[21:55:00] Beirdo: the previous time at bat, I got a hit, but the bat was vertical over my head at the time
[21:55:00] Beirdo: he was aggravating, I don't know why we ever put that dumbass on the mound
[21:55:00] riot-: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87947 << do i need this if i have myth 0.18?
[21:56:00] kormoc: riot-, it should auto patch if needed
[21:56:00] ** Beirdo reminds himself... must buy Jays tickets this year **
[21:57:00] kormoc: I don't really enjoy watching baseball, or most sports to be honest.
[21:57:00] Beirdo: baseball is a fun game to watch if you are into it
[21:57:00] ** j-rod nods **
[21:57:00] Beirdo: just remember to pay attention... foul balls can really fuckin hurt
[21:57:00] j-rod: but I HATE many fans...
[21:57:00] Beirdo: heh
[21:58:00] j-rod: the ones without a clue about anything bug the shit out of me, so I don't go to many games
[21:58:00] Beirdo: the ones that show up and ignore the game?
[21:58:00] j-rod: those ones too
[21:58:00] kormoc: I donno, I just don't really enjoy watching random strangers play sports, I much perfer to watch people I know
[21:58:00] Beirdo: yeah
[21:58:00] doczico: somebody can help me about cx88 card config plz ?
[21:58:00] j-rod: heh, I actually know some of the guys on the field. :)
[21:58:00] Beirdo: heh
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[21:58:00] Beirdo: my cousin used to pitch... then he wussed out and quit in his senior year of highschool
[21:59:00] ** Beirdo shrugs **
[21:59:00] Beirdo: but he was a Detroit Tigers fan, so that was likely for the best anyways
[22:00:00] Beirdo: j-rod: should I assume you cheer for Seattle? :)
[22:00:00] j-rod: I got pretty badly injured my sr. year of college
[22:01:00] riot-: kormoc: i have 0.18 but my guide is out by 1 hour, is there a way to test whether that is the problem?
[22:01:00] Beirdo: heh, he didn't get injured. he got a girlfriend
[22:01:00] j-rod: had a few pro scouts talking to me, but that pretty much died when I went down
[22:01:00] j-rod: and yeah, I'm a life-long M's fan
[22:01:00] Beirdo: Cool :)
[22:01:00] kormoc: riot-, the most common error is your timezone is set wrong, can you make sure it's set correctly?
[22:01:00] Beirdo: I've been a Jays fan since about 1982
[22:01:00] bin-doph: where do I get a "Certificate Code" for the zap2it-subscription? Is there one specific code for mythtv?
[22:01:00] Beirdo: bin-doph: in the mythtv docs
[22:02:00] Beirdo: RTFM
[22:02:00] ** xris wonders how he missed out on the "sports enthusiast" gene **
[22:02:00] CyberKnet: bin-doph: in the docs
[22:02:00] bin-doph: I am reading the docs
[22:02:00] CyberKnet: xris: It's an optional extra that apparently yours and mine parents didn't spring for
[22:02:00] bin-doph: but it has no search function -.-
[22:02:00] CyberKnet: bin-doph: then you're not reading closely enough
[22:03:00] Beirdo: xris: I dunno. I grew up listening to Jays games on the radio
[22:03:00] Beirdo: :)
[22:03:00] CyberKnet: bin-doph: I assure you, it is in there.
[22:03:00] bin-doph: well, I dont know exactly under which topic I'd suspect this specific information
[22:03:00] Beirdo: every game pretty well
[22:03:00] CyberKnet: bin-doph: I am looking at it right this moment. look harder.
[22:03:00] bin-doph: k
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[22:03:00] xris: my grandfather is a baseball nut (LA dodgers fan), my dad isn't so much, but still watches games when he can.
[22:03:00] CyberKnet: searchable version here: http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall
[22:04:00] CyberKnet: it's not difficult.
[22:04:00] CyberKnet: I found it in 5 seconds. I'm sure you could too.
[22:04:00] xris: it's linked pretty directly from j-rod's guide, too
[22:04:00] Beirdo: xris: get together with j-rod, go watch a Mariners game :)
[22:04:00] bin-doph: thats what Im looking at
[22:04:00] bin-doph: but its not searchable
[22:04:00] xris: would rather do something else. heh.
[22:04:00] CyberKnet: what browser are you using?
[22:04:00] bin-doph: firefox
[22:05:00] CyberKnet: bin-doph: because it sure is in firefox
[22:05:00] CyberKnet: control-f
[22:05:00] CyberKnet: search
[22:05:00] Beirdo: then it's searchable
[22:05:00] xris: something interactive.
[22:05:00] j-rod: xris, I have connections for really good seats though!
[22:05:00] j-rod: :)
[22:05:00] xris: oh?
[22:05:00] bin-doph: yes, I know. but I have to click every topic. I cant search through the whole set
[22:05:00] j-rod: I can usually land free tickets for box seats
[22:05:00] Beirdo: behind home plate or box? :)
[22:05:00] CyberKnet: search the *index*
[22:05:00] Beirdo: nice
[22:05:00] xris: I must admit that watching from the stadium is at least entertaining and social.
[22:05:00] Beirdo: yep, it sure is
[22:06:00] Beirdo: and a good excuse to drink some beer
[22:06:00] xris: lol, at $8–12/cup it's not worth it.
[22:06:00] j-rod: albeit horrendously overpriced beer
[22:06:00] Beirdo: heh, true
[22:06:00] xris: would rather sneak in a flask of scotch. heh.
[22:06:00] CyberKnet: heh
[22:06:00] Beirdo: been tempted
[22:06:00] CyberKnet: bourbon
[22:06:00] kormoc: Mmm... Vodka...
[22:06:00] CyberKnet: mmm... Grey Goose vodka
[22:07:00] laga: shut it, i'm getting thirsty.
[22:07:00] kormoc: Mmm... Hot Pepper Vodka...
[22:07:00] riot-: thanks kormoc it wasn't set, we'll see if it works now
[22:07:00] CyberKnet: laga: hah
[22:07:00] kormoc: riot-, your welcome :)
[22:07:00] CyberKnet: laga: little boys should not drink =)
[22:07:00] ** CyberKnet grins **
[22:07:00] Beirdo: the best thing to sneak in...
[22:07:00] kormoc: he's german tho, he's been drinking all his life! ;)
[22:07:00] laga: CyberKnet: shut it. i'm 18. ;)
[22:07:00] Beirdo: oranges injected with vodka
[22:08:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: how very true =)
[22:08:00] CyberKnet: laga: heh
[22:08:00] laga: kormoc: for 4 years or so ;)
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[22:08:00] ** CyberKnet admires the german drink ethic **
[22:08:00] laga: so does my liver
[22:08:00] ** CyberKnet notes that australians are banned from oktoberfest :| **
[22:08:00] laga: huh? why is that?
[22:08:00] CyberKnet: stupid 'piss-all-over-everything' australian tourists
[22:08:00] laga: rotfl
[22:08:00] Beirdo: hehehe
[22:09:00] CyberKnet: apparently they could hold their liquor, but not their wang
[22:09:00] ** kormoc wonders how bad it is that he started drinking about the same time this German did, but he's a usian... **
[22:09:00] CyberKnet: ;)
[22:09:00] Beirdo: heh
[22:09:00] Beirdo: I started drinking at 23
[22:09:00] CyberKnet: bin-doph: I assume you found it already?
[22:09:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, nah, they just loved holding their wang more then holding their beer
[22:09:00] Beirdo: or was it 22
[22:09:00] bin-doph: CyberKnet: well I found it in the provided docs, but not in the online-documentation
[22:09:00] Beirdo: meh, whatever
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[22:10:00] CyberKnet: bin-doph: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3
[22:10:00] CyberKnet: bin-doph: how blind are you?
[22:10:00] Beirdo: CyberKnet: be a little nice :)
[22:10:00] kormoc: !
[22:10:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: nice stopped ten minutes ago
[22:10:00] ** Beirdo hands CyberKnet another sheep **
[22:10:00] ** CyberKnet roasts the sheep for dinner **
[22:10:00] ** kormoc wonders if Beirdo's bot logged him saying to be nice. **
[22:10:00] Beirdo: hehe
[22:10:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: hah
[22:10:00] Beirdo: but of course it did
[22:11:00] bin-doph: CyberKnet: in fact, I have no clue... lol
[22:11:00] kormoc: yay! public record!
[22:11:00] CyberKnet: bin-doph: Of that I can be certain
[22:11:00] bin-doph: ^^
[22:11:00] ** Beirdo smacks kormoc with the trout **
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[22:12:00] CyberKnet: searching the index for "zap2it" would have yeilded a link to section 5.3 "Configuring the zap...." and the certificate code is in BOLD on in that section. You can't make it more obvious than that.
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[22:13:00] kasm: can you watch live tv across the network from a backend to a separate frontend?
[22:13:00] CyberKnet: kasm: indeed you can =)
[22:13:00] riot-: lol kormoc it's worse now :)
[22:13:00] CyberKnet: kasm: MythTV has a split backend/frontend architecture that enables the viewing program to be on a physically separate machine than the back end that contains the tv tuner cards.
[22:13:00] kormoc: riot-, make sure the time is correct with date now?
[22:14:00] CyberKnet: kasm: The separate front end may also have tv tuner cards in it that the other back end can access too. It is very distributed and very nice.
[22:14:00] riot-: do i want rc.conf clock setting on "UTC" or "local"?
[22:14:00] kasm: so the xbox makes an acceptable frontend for tv, even though it doesn't have tv input? would I also have to run a backend on the xbox if I wanted to be able to watch DVDs on its drive?
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[22:14:00] kormoc: riot-, I have mine set to local, but then I also have my bios time set to local.
[22:15:00] CyberKnet: kasm: I have heard that playback on the xbox is a little stuttery, but other than that your statement is correct. There is no reason why you could not do that.
[22:15:00] kasm: is image quality on the xbox ok?
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[22:15:00] CyberKnet: insofar as dvds, I dont think you would need a backend on that machine as well.
[22:15:00] CyberKnet: kasm: I have no idea.
[22:15:00] CyberKnet: kasm: whilst I have an xbox, I use it for games, not mythtv.
[22:17:00] ** CyberKnet curses atrpms for overwriting his existing .htaccess **
[22:17:00] kasm: so is it seamless, accessing different media from different backends? or does it require you to specificy only one backend to use at once?
[22:17:00] CyberKnet: kasm: there is a master-slave backend system in place
[22:17:00] kormoc: kasm, afaik, you have a master backend which keeps track of things, and it's seemless on the frontend part.
[22:17:00] CyberKnet: and your front end will connect to the master.
[22:18:00] niktaris: are there some knoppmyth howtos someplace?
[22:18:00] kasm: and the master integrates stuff from different backends to make it all appear as one to frontends connected to it?
[22:18:00] kormoc: in theory!
[22:20:00] riot-: ok NOW it's fixed, thx kormoc
[22:20:00] kormoc: you're quite welcome, glad I could help
[22:21:00] kasm: CyberKnet and kormoc: thanx
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[22:23:00] kormoc: kasm, you're quite welcome as well
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[22:23:00] j-rod: f'ing gaim...
[22:23:00] j-rod: er, kopete...
[22:24:00] laga: same shit, different name...
[22:24:00] Beirdo: hehe
[22:25:00] Beirdo: same shit, different pile.
[22:25:00] kormoc: j-rod, x-chat is grand :P
[22:25:00] Beirdo: xchat behind irssi as a proxy :)
[22:25:00] CyberKnet: kasm: You are most welcome
[22:26:00] j-rod: working on setting up irssi and/or dircproxy
[22:26:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: See, I can be helpful and nice when people have at *least* double digit IQs. kasm here obviously having a trip digit, just using hte experience as an example.
[22:27:00] Beirdo: CyberKnet: yes, but you could be a *bit* nicer to the cluebies :)
[22:27:00] Beirdo: hehe
[22:27:00] xris: I'm curious how that works.. would be cool if when you logged in it pulled in the chat history, etc.
[22:27:00] Beirdo: it can, I think
[22:27:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: tough love =P"
[22:27:00] Beirdo: I never bothered to set that part up
[22:27:00] ** kormoc raises a eyebrow towards Beirdo. **
[22:27:00] j-rod: dircproxy is supposed to keep all the history stuff
[22:27:00] kormoc: now that would be coolness
[22:27:00] xris: I wonder if it'd work for gaim, though.
[22:27:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: he's full of good advice when it comes to other people, huh? =P"
[22:27:00] Beirdo: hehe
[22:27:00] Beirdo: I dunno, xris
[22:27:00] xris: Beirdo: actually.. do you know how to do that for screen? so the terminal scroll buffer works?
[22:28:00] Beirdo: CyberKnet: you suck :)
[22:28:00] ** CyberKnet tries to avoid the oncoming trout in vain **
[22:28:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[22:28:00] ** xris drops a salmon on CyberKnet. **
[22:28:00] CyberKnet: mmmmm
[22:28:00] CyberKnet: salmon
[22:28:00] CyberKnet: thanksy
[22:28:00] Beirdo: Um, you can scroll back with the copy buffer in screen
[22:28:00] kormoc: you'd eat a salmon that was in your pants?
[22:28:00] j-rod: copper river?
[22:28:00] Beirdo: and irssi itself has a scrollback buffer
[22:28:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: Yes sir
[22:28:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: wouldn't you?
[22:28:00] xris: just so you know, it's one of those mercury-infested ones from one of those infected fish farms.
[22:28:00] Beirdo: meh
[22:29:00] Beirdo: sell it to the unsuspecting public
[22:29:00] kormoc: Beirdo, I'd perfer a scrollback so konsole can be scrolled with a mouse wheel.
[22:29:00] CyberKnet: xris: it's still salmon... and it's not like I can get any more nuts =)
[22:29:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, not really, no :P
[22:29:00] Beirdo: konsole be damned :)
[22:29:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[22:29:00] xris: Beirdo: I know. but i've heard there's a way that you can get it to import into the terminal so you can use the mouse to scroll and select full-pages, etc.
[22:29:00] Beirdo: dunno
[22:29:00] kormoc: I like the tabbed konsole.
[22:29:00] ** CyberKnet sings the praises of ssh+screen **
[22:29:00] Beirdo: ssh+screen is the only way to go
[22:29:00] ** j-rod loves tabbed konsoles too **
[22:29:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: what's the keystroke combo to switch tabs in konsole?
[22:29:00] rjune: yeah screen
[22:29:00] Beirdo: I can reattach my session from work or home
[22:30:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: that being my favorite feature of screen, yes.
[22:30:00] Beirdo: or from anywhere with ssh access
[22:30:00] j-rod: CyberKnet: shift-left, shift-right
[22:30:00] CyberKnet: j-rod: aaaah, thanks.
[22:30:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, shift+arrowkey... yeah
[22:30:00] xris: or control-pageup/down in gnome-terminal
[22:30:00] CyberKnet: j-rod: occasionally my mouse stops working and then... gah =)
[22:30:00] j-rod: heh
[22:30:00] CyberKnet: didn't think about shift
[22:30:00] Beirdo: mice are for feeding stray cats
[22:30:00] CyberKnet: I tried ctrl-tab, ctrl-arrow, alt-arrow
[22:30:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, I also enjoy the mouse wheel in the tab bar, it switches that way too
[22:31:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: very handy when the mouse is working. useless when the mouse is not =)
[22:31:00] Beirdo: get in here and catch this mouse, kitty!
[22:31:00] CyberKnet: I find more and more these days that I just ctrl-a-n, ctrl-a-A, ctrl-a-#
[22:32:00] CyberKnet: and if I get lost, ctrl-a-"
[22:32:00] CyberKnet: but I never get lost
[22:32:00] Beirdo: ctrl-a 0
[22:32:00] Beirdo: can't ever get lost :)
[22:32:00] CyberKnet: heh
[22:32:00] Beirdo: or 1, etc
[22:32:00] CyberKnet: yep
[22:32:00] CyberKnet: that's what I'm saying
[22:32:00] CyberKnet: I never get lost.
[22:32:00] kormoc: ESCAPE ESCAPE ESCAPE!!! Shit... this isn't vim... :P
[22:32:00] Beirdo: although you get bent occasionally :)
[22:33:00] Beirdo: hehe
[22:33:00] CyberKnet: but if for some unfathomable reason I did, ^a" would save me
[22:33:00] laga: kormoc: :Wq: not an editor command
[22:33:00] CyberKnet: 99% of the time I just hit ^aa
[22:33:00] CyberKnet: oops
[22:33:00] CyberKnet: ^a^a
[22:33:00] Beirdo: Ctrl-a <space>
[22:33:00] kormoc: laga, I get that way way too often given vim's my main editor :P
[22:33:00] laga: hehe ;)
[22:33:00] laga: i know that feeling ;)
[22:34:00] CyberKnet: didn't ever try space
[22:34:00] CyberKnet: that's pretty handy too
[22:34:00] Beirdo: home time
[22:34:00] CyberKnet: ^a^a is most useful since i rarely use more than two screens at once
[22:34:00] ZorroIII: anyone played with wss?
[22:35:00] CyberKnet: windows sound system?
[22:35:00] ZorroIII: wide screen signaling
[22:35:00] CyberKnet: can't say that I have.
[22:35:00] ZorroIII: used to tell the tv what aspect to use
[22:36:00] ZorroIII: there is a util included with ivtv that sets the signal on the pvr-x50-card
[22:36:00] CyberKnet: nope. I dont have a widescreen tv.
[22:36:00] ZorroIII: but that util only have two modes, 16:9 letterbox and 4:3
[22:37:00] ZorroIII: the standard have more modes, 16:9 anamorhic for instance
[22:37:00] CyberKnet: I don't know, sorry
[22:37:00] CyberKnet: you might try in #ivtv-devel
[22:37:00] ZorroIII: sure
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[22:38:00] Super_Cat_Frog: hi – can somebody help me scan for dvb channels in mythtv? i cant remember how to do it and there's nothing in the docs. google isn't being helpful either
[22:38:00] CyberKnet: Super_Cat_Frog: no idea, sorry
[22:38:00] Super_Cat_Frog: k
[22:38:00] j-rod: mythtv-setup
[22:38:00] j-rod: last section
[22:38:00] j-rod: there's a scan button
[22:39:00] Super_Cat_Frog: but you have to put in frequency and im not sure what to put
[22:39:00] Super_Cat_Frog: it doesn't find anything if you dont put in a frew
[22:39:00] Super_Cat_Frog: *freq
[22:39:00] j-rod: just do a scan all
[22:39:00] j-rod: oh
[22:39:00] j-rod: I never had to put anything in...
[22:39:00] xris: works for me (the scan, not the end result)
[22:39:00] Super_Cat_Frog: are you using the full scan patch?
[22:41:00] j-rod: scanning worksforme in 0.18 without any changes...
[22:41:00] Super_Cat_Frog: ok i'l try that then
[22:41:00] Super_Cat_Frog: ive not tried scanning without options since just after 0.17
[22:42:00] j-rod: ah
[22:42:00] j-rod: yeah, try 0.18
[22:42:00] Super_Cat_Frog: im using cvs from about 3 hours ago
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[22:42:00] Super_Cat_Frog: if it aint broken, get a newer version
[22:43:00] Super_Cat_Frog: argh! error tuning to transport
[22:43:00] Super_Cat_Frog: actually, im going to roll back to a db backup i did a while ago
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[22:45:00] oneo: hey all – anyone here use a case with a built-in ir receiver?
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[22:45:00] CyberKnet: ahahahahha. Choice quote from Hilary Rosen: "I'm a regular cyberslut."
[22:45:00] CyberKnet: tooooooo priceless
[22:45:00] CyberKnet: aaah crap
[22:45:00] CyberKnet: mis-attributed quote
[22:45:00] CyberKnet: dammit.
[22:45:00] CyberKnet: stupid linkers
[22:45:00] CyberKnet: It's Arianna Huffington
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[23:00:00] j-rod: Some dude jumped out an 18th floor window in my office building today.
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[23:02:00] GeckoFiend: ummm wow
[23:02:00] CyberKnet: j-rod: did he live?
[23:03:00] j-rod: nope, he be dead
[23:03:00] FITH: Heh, I think I'd be safe calling the odds on this one
[23:03:00] FITH: Yup, I would have been
[23:03:00] FITH: :)
[23:03:00] j-rod: tossed a fire extinguisher through the window, then followed it
[23:04:00] j-rod: messed up a truck that he landed on
[23:04:00] j-rod: even more fun, we couldn't get at our network stack for a while, which is in the same colocation facility the guy jumped from. :)
[23:05:00] CyberKnet: I mean, usually you don't survive an 18 flight fall... but you never know.
[23:05:00] CyberKnet: any word on what was so awful that he felt he had to kiss the concrete from 18 floors up?
[23:06:00] FITH: Yeah, that takes some pretty serious dedication to wanting to off yourself
[23:06:00] CyberKnet: FITH: Especially in that manner
[23:06:00] j-rod: no clue yet
[23:06:00] CyberKnet: I can't imagine what impact would have been like. That second must be .... electrifying.
[23:06:00] CyberKnet: and horrifying.
[23:07:00] CyberKnet: I wonder how many people change their mind on the way down.
[23:07:00] laga: lol
[23:07:00] FITH: Hehe
[23:07:00] j-rod: heh
[23:07:00] CyberKnet: I can see how that is kind of funny... but I really do wonder.
[23:07:00] CyberKnet: I wonder how many people realize what a huge mistake they made whilst in freefall.
[23:07:00] Ivan_A: Can anyone help? I'm getting a lot of this in my logs: SIParser: Unknown Descriptor: 5e 35 0 65 6e 67
[23:08:00] CyberKnet: Ivan_A: from MythPhone, I assume?
[23:08:00] Ivan_A: and my DVB-T EPG is not woring
[23:08:00] CyberKnet: nope, I would be wrong.
[23:08:00] CyberKnet: I have no idea, sorry.
[23:08:00] Ivan_A: ok :)
[23:08:00] Ivan_A: does anyone? the EGP used to work fine
[23:08:00] Ivan_A: hasn't since the 0.18 upgrade
[23:09:00] Ivan_A: I can watch TV, but have no epg
[23:10:00] Super_Cat_Frog: ive just rolled back to a db backup from my gentoo install. everything works except it claims the tuner is busy (no jobs are running)
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[23:12:00] kasm: hey: anybody know what parts to get to build a machine for a myth frontend that's at least as quiet as an xbox, that will run linux without some kind of strange extra kernel patches?
[23:13:00] Super_Cat_Frog: kasm – an xbox
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[23:13:00] Super_Cat_Frog: kasm – you can use an xbox for a mythfrontend box, and it fits what you want perfectly (as quiet as an xbox) and its really cheap compared to building a pc
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[23:14:00] kasm: sorry i got disconnected – anyone who can still see my above query want to answer again so I can see it?
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[23:16:00] Edapeda: Is it possible to view hdtv contens from a mythtv backend on a x-box frontend??
[23:16:00] Edapeda: Or is the x-box to slow?
[23:17:00] j-rod: xbox is WAY too slow
[23:17:00] Edapeda: OK..
[23:17:00] mofu: ok this is going to drive me nuts, fixed my time offset issue Saturday, not sure how, was fine Saturday and Sunday, then screwed up this morning
[23:17:00] Super_Cat_Frog: kasm – use an xbox
[23:17:00] mofu: Program Guide shows primetime (8pm EDT) at 7:00
[23:18:00] mofu: if I could just set a time zone of other offset that would get me by, but this doesn't appear to be stable so I can set it and forget it
[23:19:00] kasm: what is everyone here running in the way of a small, quiet frontend? i don't want to use an xbox when they tell me it's too slow for HD and even stutters on normal stuff
[23:19:00] rjune: kasm: why not a Via m10k? that's mentioned on the website
[23:19:00] GeckoFiend: kasm it's not hard to get a satnadrd PC quiet
[23:19:00] mofu: small is another issue . . . .
[23:20:00] GeckoFiend: mofu not really
[23:21:00] kasm: if the via m10k is that EPIA thing, doesn't it require a kernel patch only available for 2.4 kernels?
[23:21:00] mofu: GeckoFiend: what do you like for small in MATX form?
[23:21:00] GeckoFiend: chaintech 7NIF2 is an old favorite
[23:21:00] kasm: small, my definition, is no more than twice the height of a standard dvd player, btw
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[23:22:00] mofu: GeckoFiend: not the MB, for a case
[23:23:00] kasm: if i just get a regular micro-ATX MB with a fastish CPU, wont it be audible over quiet parts in a movie and stuff?
[23:23:00] mofu: I have no problems with a 9x9 mATX MB, the Cases tend to be HUGE
[23:23:00] GeckoFiend: I use a D.Vine5 myself, it's about the same size as my tuner. If I wanted to go real small I'd go with one of the silverstones
[23:23:00] mofu: kasm: get a 120 or 1400mm fan on the PS,
[23:24:00] j-rod: CoolerMaster ATC-620C-BX1, about the same size as any piece of A/V equipment here
[23:24:00] mofu: you might need to get a better/quieter CPU fan too
[23:24:00] j-rod: my next HD-capable system is going to be an EPIA SP 8000 system in a Travla C137 though
[23:24:00] mofu: j-rod: I have a 620, its NOT the same size, about 6 inches deeper
[23:24:00] j-rod: (HD-playback-capable, that is)
[23:25:00] j-rod: ah, sorry, wasn't thinking about the depth
[23:25:00] j-rod: I like the SilverStone SST-LC11 cases
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[23:32:00] j-rod: I repeat: f'ing kopete...
[23:37:00] xris: j-rod: me, too. wish I could justify getting one.
[23:37:00] xris: oh, old conversation. heh
[23:37:00] j-rod: was gonna say... huh?
[23:38:00] j-rod: one what?
[23:38:00] xris: silverstone lc11
[23:38:00] j-rod: oh, yeah, that
[23:39:00] j-rod: not too old a convo, just pre-kopete-shit-the-bed, so I had no recollection of it anymore. :)
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[23:41:00] xris: heh
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[23:41:00] xris: it was the most recent thing in the chat window, so I missed the timestamp changes.
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