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| [00:00:00] | Beirdo: | hmm, possibly |
| [00:00:00] | Beirdo: | but I doubt that either use many memory copies |
| [00:00:00] | Beirdo: | I could be totally wrong |
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| [00:03:00] | xris: | I need to find that howto about setting up lirc with both xmit and receive settings, rather than using two installations of it. |
| [00:03:00] | kormoc: | fair nuff, I don't really know much about how video stuff works under the hood. |
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| [00:15:00] | maddhaggis: | Has anyone talked to defaultro today? |
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| [00:20:00] | mchou: | defaultro doesnt show up here anymore. |
| [00:21:00] | mchou: | guess his problems are all gone :) |
| [00:23:00] | henry`: | mchou: so I compiled myth from cvs.. no change |
| [00:23:00] | henry`: | from doing some reading, it might be that myth isn't waiting long enough to establish a lock |
| [00:23:00] | henry`: | any thoughts on how I can change that? |
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| [00:35:00] | xris: | or he got scared off by an angry Beirdo |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm? |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | hhe |
| [00:35:00] | xris: | just poking fun |
| [00:35:00] | xris: | at you or him, I don't know. |
| [00:35:00] | kormoc: | both! |
| [00:36:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [00:47:00] | Beirdo: | goddamned bot |
| [00:47:00] | Beirdo: | I'm trying to use energymech |
| [00:47:00] | Beirdo: | it's insisting on using DCC chat |
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| [00:49:00] | jemarcks: | anybody having trouble with livetv freezing up after about 3 sec. on 0.18? mplayer /dev/video0 on tuner0 works great. |
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| [01:04:00] | opello: | so i rebooted and now i seem to have lost my first tuner on the pvr-500 |
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| [01:04:00] | opello: | just static, tried readding them in mythsetup, didn't fix it |
| [01:04:00] | pridkett: | opello: sounds like an ivtv issue |
| [01:04:00] | opello: | rmmod and try reloading it? |
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| [01:08:00] | opello: | yeah, that fixed it, heh |
| [01:08:00] | opello: | thanks |
| [01:08:00] | pridkett: | opello: your welcome, good luck with myth |
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| [01:12:00] | xris: | yay, going-home time. |
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| [01:13:00] | riksta: | moin |
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| [01:17:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, howdy. good news! |
| [01:17:00] | jemarcks: | hey cromz |
| [01:17:00] | Cromz: | I didn't do it! |
| [01:17:00] | jemarcks: | lol |
| [01:17:00] | jemarcks: | chicken |
| [01:17:00] | jemarcks: | ;P |
| [01:18:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, i got video and audio working on tuner0 with mplayer. :D |
| [01:18:00] | Cromz: | so whats your good news? hopefully doesn't include you running around naked like in that drea.. er.. nevermind |
| [01:18:00] | jemarcks: | lol |
| [01:18:00] | Cromz: | cool. |
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| [01:19:00] | jemarcks: | one problem left.... when i watch livetv in the frontend, it freezes after 3 sec. |
| [01:19:00] | jemarcks: | searches of the archive have not produced much worth while. |
| [01:19:00] | Cromz: | hmm the only differance being mythtv records to ringbuff then replays it like a recording. so...... |
| [01:19:00] | jemarcks: | hmmm |
| [01:20:00] | jemarcks: | like the buffer underruns? |
| [01:20:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, so.....? |
| [01:21:00] | Cromz: | something to do with writting the file to disk and reading from the disk.. you running both as same user? |
| [01:21:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, yeah... both are mythtv im pretty sure.... ummm.. wait. i started mythbackend in rc.local |
| [01:21:00] | jemarcks: | could that be it? |
| [01:22:00] | Cromz: | I dunno.. just ruling out the simple |
| [01:22:00] | jemarcks: | yeah... true. |
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| [01:23:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, well, mythtv owns /video/buffer |
| [01:23:00] | Cromz: | ringbuff.nuv? |
| [01:23:00] | jemarcks: | where is that? |
| [01:24:00] | Cromz: | should be in where your recording are setup to go. or where every you told mythbackend to save it |
| [01:24:00] | jemarcks: | that would be in /video/buffer. its empthy |
| [01:25:00] | Cromz: | not real sure how it does it. but I know if a frontend tell the backend to watch livetv it starts the ringbuff |
| [01:25:00] | Cromz: | and the frontend then starts reading that same ringbuff |
| [01:26:00] | Cromz: | but it's only there when it's told to watch livetv |
| [01:26:00] | jemarcks: | yeah.. i have see that file in there. but its not watching live tv now so it seems reasonable to expect it to be empty |
| [01:27:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, do you have a fc3 system? |
| [01:27:00] | Cromz: | aye |
| [01:27:00] | jemarcks: | what permissions do you have on /dev/dsp? |
| [01:27:00] | Cromz: | heh yes. |
| [01:28:00] | Cromz: | hmm I dunno.. |
| [01:28:00] | jemarcks: | crw------- 1 mythtv root 14, 3 May 5 08:08 /dev/dsp |
| [01:28:00] | Cromz: | crw------- 1 ross root 14, 3 May 4 23:57 /dev/dsp |
| [01:28:00] | jemarcks: | hmmm... is ross the user for myth? |
| [01:28:00] | Cromz: | lol no root is |
| [01:28:00] | Cromz: | I log in as that.. |
| [01:29:00] | Cromz: | that's my real name |
| [01:29:00] | jemarcks: | AH |
| [01:29:00] | jemarcks: | ok. |
| [01:29:00] | Cromz: | I open a terminal ans su.. then start the backend and mtd and frontend |
| [01:29:00] | jemarcks: | so that follows what mine is |
| [01:30:00] | jemarcks: | do you have mythbackend auto started? |
| [01:30:00] | Cromz: | no |
| [01:30:00] | jemarcks: | how do you start it up then? |
| [01:30:00] | jemarcks: | rc.local? |
| [01:31:00] | Cromz: | open a terminal and type mythbackend -d |
| [01:31:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [01:31:00] | jemarcks: | ah... lol... glutten for punishment |
| [01:31:00] | jemarcks: | so you start up the backend as 'you' and not root? |
| [01:31:00] | Cromz: | this system is my workstation as well as my myth-box.. and everything else.. |
| [01:32:00] | jemarcks: | hmmmmmmm. |
| [01:32:00] | jemarcks: | so, yes? |
| [01:32:00] | Cromz: | no.. I opened a terminal then su then start the backend |
| [01:32:00] | jemarcks: | ok |
| [01:32:00] | jemarcks: | cool |
| [01:32:00] | jemarcks: | that jives with me runing it in rc.local to start it. same as root |
| [01:32:00] | jemarcks: | and it should be root |
| [01:34:00] | jemarcks: | well darn, that doesnt help me root cause why livetv freezes up after about 3 sec. |
| [01:35:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, you have a 250, right? |
| [01:35:00] | Cromz: | no |
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| [01:35:00] | Cromz: | three fiddy |
| [01:35:00] | jemarcks: | lol |
| [01:35:00] | Cromz: | :) |
| [01:35:00] | jemarcks: | uno fiddy here |
| [01:35:00] | rjune_: | the fiddy |
| [01:36:00] | jemarcks: | rjune, yeah a pvr150 lol |
| [01:36:00] | rjune_: | I thought you meant time. I was confused |
| [01:36:00] | jemarcks: | cromz and I are being silly. |
| [01:36:00] | rjune_: | there's another state for you two? |
| [01:36:00] | Cromz: | when am I not? |
| [01:37:00] | jemarcks: | true |
| [01:37:00] | Cromz: | I mean I was watching myth recording of charmed last night, ripping taxi and playing city of heroes with cedega on this system :> |
| [01:38:00] | jemarcks: | ok.. another questions for yall. i am switching from directv to digital cable on saturday. is it a hassle to switch myth? |
| [01:39:00] | jemarcks: | I already have 2 weeks of channel guide data in the database |
| [01:39:00] | rjune_: | I think you just have to redo your guide source |
| [01:40:00] | rjune_: | you'll have to redo a lot of your scheduling too prolly as channel #'s will change |
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| [01:40:00] | Cromz: | hmmm drop the programs and re-setup your mythfilldatabase specs and umm redo your remote lirc setting if you use a external box.. huh I said box.. |
| [01:40:00] | jemarcks: | and mythfilldatabase will fix the rest? cool |
| [01:41:00] | jemarcks: | not much scheduleing set up since this is a new box that isnt field ready yet. |
| [01:41:00] | Cromz: | field ready?!?! you military!??! |
| [01:41:00] | jemarcks: | with digital cable, i dont need a IR blaster to change the channel. |
| [01:42:00] | jemarcks: | NO.. i used to work for a aerospace company long time ago |
| [01:42:00] | Cromz: | lol |
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| [01:43:00] | jemarcks: | brb |
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| [01:54:00] | jspot: | anyone know if my problems with my remote wonder could be caused by the qt 3.3.4 issue? |
| [01:55:00] | jspot: | only the arrow keys seem to work and the ok button is like hitting enter – no reaction |
| [01:55:00] | GeckoFiend: | jspot sounds about right |
| [01:56:00] | CygnusX1: | My myth box is keeping time horribly. Is it detrimental to have webmin sync the time every 5 minutes (local time server.) |
| [01:56:00] | jspot: | the thing is I tried downgrading to 3.3.8 – but myth seems dependent on 3.3.4 – i cant figure out how to downgrade |
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| [02:09:00] | GeckoFiend: | myth isn't tied to any specific release |
| [02:09:00] | jspot: | i tried both apt-get install qt=1:3.3.3–8 qt-MySQL=1:3.3.3–8 and rpm -Uvh --oldpackage ... apt made me uninstall myth and rpm stopped with failed deps |
| [02:10:00] | GeckoFiend: | ahhh packing issues are another matter alltogether |
| [02:10:00] | GeckoFiend: | there should be instructions on the mailing list if you search the archives. I've not paid a whole lot of attention to the issue sory |
| [02:11:00] | jspot: | i got both of these suggestions from the archive - |
| [02:11:00] | jspot: | not sure where to go from here |
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| [02:13:00] | GeckoFiend: | heya xris |
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| [02:13:00] | GeckoFiend: | heya xris again :) |
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| [02:14:00] | xris: | third try's a charm |
| [02:14:00] | GeckoFiend: | heh I give up on saying hi |
| [02:16:00] | xris: | something in icq was causing gaim to hang |
| [02:22:00] | pookSter: | Hi :) |
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| [02:31:00] | FITH: | Hmmm, is there a way of running mythfilldatabase right now? there's --refresh-today, but I seem to have a multiple day gap in my listings, and I wanna refresh the whole thing "now" |
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| [02:33:00] | pridkett: | what's wrong with just running mythfilldatabase from the command line? |
| [02:35:00] | FITH: | Just my crappy memory telling me there was a way of saying "clear the DB as of this date and refill it"... :) |
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| [02:37:00] | CygnusX1: | Speaking of that, is that a change in 0.18...it runs mythfilldatabase on its own? |
| [02:37:00] | xris: | brb, going to pull the pvr-150 out of this machine... |
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| [02:38:00] | itsame: | yo |
| [02:38:00] | FITH: | Hmm, yeah, I have a gap in my programming for some channels starting on May 8th.... Hmm. |
| [02:39:00] | itsame: | ANyone know anything about the AV-710 chaintech sound card |
| [02:39:00] | itsame: | and getting spdif to work |
| [02:39:00] | itsame: | driving me insane !!! plz help :) |
| [02:42:00] | FITH: | Okay... so zap2it seems to have up to date info for my area, (the websites listings to anyways) but even after running a mythfilldatabase about 90% of my channels show Unknown(Unknown) |
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| [02:48:00] | goodtod: | how can i stop mythfrontend from starting at boot in knoppmytrh |
| [02:51:00] | itsame: | goodtod ... join knoppmyth forum |
| [02:51:00] | itsame: | but your answer is in /usr/local/bin/KnoppMyth-run |
| [02:51:00] | itsame: | that starts frontend |
| [02:53:00] | goodtod: | itsame: i searched the forums and couldn't find anything, but which script runs KnoppMyth-run, it isn't in init.d |
| [02:53:00] | itsame: | ahh |
| [02:54:00] | itsame: | i think its a gdm file or sumtin |
| [02:55:00] | itsame: | root@mythtv:/home# grep -R "KnoppMyth-run" * |
| [02:55:00] | itsame: | mythtv/.fluxbox/apps:[startup] {KnoppMyth-run} |
| [02:55:00] | itsame: | there ya go...its in .fluxbox |
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| [02:57:00] | goodtod: | ahhhh |
| [02:57:00] | goodtod: | itsame: thanks a lot |
| [02:58:00] | itsame: | yep |
| [02:58:00] | itsame: | now fix my alsa spdif ;) |
| [02:58:00] | itsame: | heh |
| [02:58:00] | goodtod: | :-x |
| [02:58:00] | goodtod: | if i knew what spdif was... |
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| [03:00:00] | xris: | lame. can't find my coax joiner. |
| [03:00:00] | itsame: | actually...u know how to get gdm to login without waiting 30sec? |
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| [03:00:00] | D-side: | I have a very very strange question. |
| [03:00:00] | xris: | itsame: gdmconfig? |
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| [03:01:00] | D-side: | I've just noticed that starting with 0.17 (more specifically, the ALL method of commflagging), the last 3–4 seconds of audio before a commercial is detected seems to very slightly change its pitch. |
| [03:01:00] | D-side: | anyone think i'm nuts? |
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| [03:02:00] | D-side: | i suppose my statement is stranger than my question, really. |
| [03:03:00] | itsame: | heh |
| [03:03:00] | itsame: | ya that works xris |
| [03:04:00] | itsame: | except can't do the autologin in 1 second |
| [03:04:00] | itsame: | 1 sec = 5 |
| [03:04:00] | itsame: | i guess 5sec the min |
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| [03:04:00] | xris: | or just autologin period |
| [03:05:00] | xris: | which is what I do |
| [03:05:00] | itsame: | yea..it will autologin on first boot |
| [03:05:00] | itsame: | without a delay |
| [03:05:00] | itsame: | but if u do a kill of x ..or ctrl alt backspace |
| [03:06:00] | itsame: | it waits that darn 5sec |
| [03:06:00] | itsame: | to start back up |
| [03:07:00] | charliet: | i just ran "yum install mythtv-suite" on my fc3 box. any good tutorial on what to do next? |
| [03:11:00] | charliet: | anybody home?.... |
| [03:12:00] | itsame: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/ |
| [03:15:00] | charliet: | when i try to run mythbackend & i get an error... |
| [03:16:00] | itsame: | wuts the error? |
| [03:16:00] | charliet: | Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| [03:16:00] | charliet: | 2005-05–05 22:15:00.174 New DB connection, total: 1 |
| [03:16:00] | charliet: | No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP. |
| [03:16:00] | charliet: | Please run setup on this machine and modify the first page |
| [03:16:00] | charliet: | of the general settings. |
| [03:16:00] | itsame: | oh |
| [03:16:00] | itsame: | did u run the setup |
| [03:16:00] | charliet: | oh? |
| [03:16:00] | charliet: | yes |
| [03:17:00] | itsame: | did u put in the ip of ur machine? |
| [03:17:00] | charliet: | well, i think so.. there were only twp option things |
| [03:17:00] | charliet: | two* |
| [03:17:00] | itsame: | also ..u have to be sure ur ip don't change! |
| [03:17:00] | charliet: | it never asked for my ip |
| [03:18:00] | charliet: | and my ip is static |
| [03:18:00] | itsame: | when u setup the tuners |
| [03:18:00] | itsame: | etc.. |
| [03:18:00] | itsame: | the first option is general or sumtin |
| [03:18:00] | itsame: | in there there are ip location for your localbox and backend |
| [03:18:00] | itsame: | if only have one mythbox..then put ur ip in both |
| [03:18:00] | charliet: | i never got that kind of screen |
| [03:19:00] | itsame: | how did u setup ur tuners? |
| [03:19:00] | charliet: | i just ran mythtv-setup |
| [03:20:00] | itsame: | right |
| [03:20:00] | charliet: | ah, when i run mythtv-setup it asks me if i want to delete tv tuner configurations |
| [03:20:00] | itsame: | nah |
| [03:20:00] | charliet: | i say yes |
| [03:20:00] | charliet: | then that errors |
| [03:21:00] | itsame: | only the first time |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | mythtv-setup |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | 2005-05–05 22:19:48.212 New DB connection, total: 1 |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | Total desktop width=1600, height=1200, numscreens=1 |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | 2005-05–05 22:19:48.230 Using screen 0, 1600x1200 at 0,0 |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | Could not find theme: G.A.N.T. |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | 2005-05–05 22:19:48.253 Switching to square mode (G.A.N.T.) |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | mythtv: could not connect to socket |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | mythtv: No such file or directory |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding messages |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | 2005-05–05 22:19:48.529 Joystick disabled. |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | Could not find theme: G.A.N.T. |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | Couldn't find theme G.A.N.T. |
| [03:21:00] | itsame: | heh |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | If this is the master backend server: |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | Now, please run 'mythfilldatabase' to populate the database |
| [03:21:00] | charliet: | with channel information. |
| [03:21:00] | itsame: | did u chose GANT? |
| [03:22:00] | charliet: | i haven't chosen anything... |
| [03:22:00] | itsame: | i dunno |
| [03:22:00] | itsame: | i've never done the yum thing |
| [03:22:00] | itsame: | just myth from source |
| [03:22:00] | itsame: | or knoppmyth |
| [03:22:00] | itsame: | maybe the redhat packaging is messed? |
| [03:23:00] | charliet: | maybe... i guess i'll try from source... |
| [03:36:00] | pridkett: | charliet: it actually looks like you've got a database connection issue |
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| [03:36:00] | pridkett: | make sure you can connect to the database by running mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg |
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| [03:39:00] | charliet: | it connects fine |
| [03:44:00] | monkeyBox: | Hi all.. I'm having a problem where mythtv loses it's cursor after playing a video in xine. I'm not able to use any menus or qt controls, etc.. what's causing this? |
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| [03:46:00] | Beirdo: | OK, time to do some fun nuvexport stuff |
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| [03:55:00] | Beirdo: | xris: you in? |
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| [03:58:00] | xris: | sort of |
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| [03:58:00] | xris: | was cooking, now I'm about to dissect my mythbox |
| [03:58:00] | Beirdo: | I'm trying to add a commandline arg |
| [03:59:00] | Beirdo: | add_arg("force_aspect|force-aspect=s", "description") |
| [03:59:00] | Beirdo: | sound right? |
| [03:59:00] | xris: | sure |
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| [03:59:00] | xris: | then to access it, you'd use force_aspect |
| [04:00:00] | Beirdo: | so if someone just puts --force_aspect with no number after it, it will be an empty string? |
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| [04:01:00] | xris: | no, it should error out |
| [04:01:00] | xris: | = for force, : for optional |
| [04:02:00] | Beirdo: | Hmm |
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| [04:03:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm. |
| [04:03:00] | Beirdo: | it seems to be ignoring me |
| [04:03:00] | xris: | hmm |
| [04:03:00] | xris: | dunno |
| [04:04:00] | Beirdo: | wonder what I typoed |
| [04:04:00] | xris: | perldoc Getopt::Long ? |
| [04:04:00] | xris: | anyway, down goes my mythbox. I'll be afk for awhile while I"m changing out cards and installing ubuntu. |
| [04:04:00] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [04:04:00] | Beirdo: | good luck |
| [04:05:00] | xris: | heh. "mv /* /old" |
| [04:06:00] | xris: | no more anything; |
| [04:06:00] | xris: | can't even turn the machine off. heh. |
| [04:07:00] | charliet: | i'm trying to compile mythtv and i'm getting this error... |
| [04:07:00] | charliet: | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt |
| [04:07:00] | charliet: | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| [04:07:00] | charliet: | make[2]: *** [libmythavcodec-0.18.so.0.18.0] Error 1 |
| [04:07:00] | charliet: | make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/charlie/mythtv-0.18/libs/libavcodec' |
| [04:07:00] | charliet: | make[1]: *** [sub-libavcodec] Error 2 |
| [04:07:00] | charliet: | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/charlie/mythtv-0.18/libs' |
| [04:07:00] | charliet: | make: *** [sub-libs] Error 2 |
| [04:12:00] | Agrajag-: | Beirdo: are you doing both a force aspect for import and export a/r's? |
| [04:13:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [04:13:00] | Beirdo: | just input |
| [04:13:00] | Agrajag-: | so output will be the same? |
| [04:13:00] | Beirdo: | output's already covered |
| [04:13:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm ok |
| [04:13:00] | Agrajag-: | i did mine manually, and seemed to have to change both |
| [04:13:00] | Beirdo: | for instance... DVD is always 4:3 |
| [04:13:00] | Agrajag-: | but maybe not i can't really remember |
| [04:14:00] | Agrajag-: | no i dont think so |
| [04:14:00] | Agrajag-: | a pal dvd is always 720x576 |
| [04:14:00] | Beirdo: | it is for now |
| [04:14:00] | Agrajag-: | but you can letterbox it |
| [04:14:00] | Agrajag-: | which is what i ended up doing |
| [04:14:00] | Beirdo: | it's ALWAYS 4:3 when we generate it |
| [04:14:00] | Agrajag-: | so you actually end up with 16:9 |
| [04:14:00] | Beirdo: | so if your source isn't 4:3, it gets letterboxed or pillarboxed |
| [04:15:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [04:15:00] | Beirdo: | that's already supported |
| [04:15:00] | Agrajag-: | ok that's cool then |
| [04:15:00] | Agrajag-: | thanks :) |
| [04:15:00] | Agrajag-: | i was gonna do that for nuvexport but haven't had the time |
| [04:16:00] | Beirdo: | forcing input aspect is only for when for some reason it gets detected wrong |
| [04:16:00] | Agrajag-: | yep.. all my recordings are like that |
| [04:16:00] | Beirdo: | you aussies get all the fun |
| [04:17:00] | Agrajag-: | heh |
| [04:17:00] | charliet: | anybody have any help for me? |
| [04:17:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah install qt-mt libs |
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| [04:19:00] | charliet: | do you know where i can get them? |
| [04:19:00] | Beirdo: | same place you got qt |
| [04:19:00] | Agrajag-: | no idea |
| [04:19:00] | Agrajag-: | debian package is libqt3-mt-dev |
| [04:20:00] | charliet: | i'm on fc3.. but i'll look |
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| [04:21:00] | Beirdo: | qt-mt-devel |
| [04:21:00] | Beirdo: | likely |
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| [04:22:00] | itsame: | Hey again ... |
| [04:22:00] | itsame: | any gurus on Mythvideo out ther? |
| [04:23:00] | itsame: | is there anyway to get mythvideo manager to look at the file name of a file |
| [04:23:00] | itsame: | like not just the extension |
| [04:23:00] | itsame: | like if file name contains "sample" ignore |
| [04:23:00] | itsame: | etc..? |
| [04:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't think so |
| [04:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Though it would not be very difficult to add. a few lines of code |
| [04:27:00] | itsame: | yea..i could probly write the code |
| [04:27:00] | itsame: | just have to find the file that tags files ignore in the video manager ;) |
| [04:27:00] | itsame: | heh |
| [04:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I looked for someone once that asked the same thing. Wasn't very difficult to find |
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| [04:29:00] | itsame: | coo |
| [04:29:00] | itsame: | i'll see what i can find |
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| [04:30:00] | itsame: | looks like maybe fileassoc.cpp is my man |
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| [05:05:00] | Beirdo: | Agrajag-: the --force-aspect is now in svn |
| [05:05:00] | Beirdo: | use it as nuvexport --force-aspect 1.7778 for 16:9 |
| [05:05:00] | Agrajag-: | awesome, ta |
| [05:06:00] | Beirdo: | let me know if it doesn't work for you, it seemed to work fine in my testing |
| [05:06:00] | Beirdo: | and I closed your ticket (it was you I think) |
| [05:06:00] | Agrajag-: | ok, i'll give it a go later today when i get home |
| [05:06:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah was mine |
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| [05:12:00] | Beirdo: | and whoever put in the nuvinfo patch... committed |
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| [05:13:00] | Beirdo: | why are people auto-assigning to xris? |
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| [05:39:00] | Beirdo: | And there's Chacabaou's bug fixed |
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| [05:48:00] | Beirdo: | Damn |
| [05:48:00] | Beirdo: | Cardoe's not in |
| [05:48:00] | MiX-MaN: | Beirdo: you do anything with the bot yet? |
| [05:48:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [05:48:00] | MiX-MaN: | heh |
| [05:48:00] | Beirdo: | I tried an energymech bot |
| [05:49:00] | MiX-MaN: | any good? |
| [05:49:00] | Beirdo: | it's currently running on another channel here |
| [05:49:00] | Beirdo: | I'd have to add logging |
| [05:49:00] | Beirdo: | and it's small, but sucky |
| [05:49:00] | MiX-MaN: | havent ever messed with emechs |
| [05:49:00] | Beirdo: | it wants to DCC CHAT all the time |
| [05:49:00] | MiX-MaN: | heh |
| [05:49:00] | Beirdo: | and that's shite as I'm using irssi proxy and NAT |
| [05:49:00] | MiX-MaN: | heh eggdrop is the same way |
| [05:50:00] | Beirdo: | both of which preclude DCC from working quite right |
| [05:50:00] | MiX-MaN: | but u can telnet to it |
| [05:50:00] | Beirdo: | so fuck that |
| [05:50:00] | Beirdo: | then I looked at a few others from freshmeat, then went and worked on some nuvexport |
| [05:50:00] | MiX-MaN: | with eggdrop you can get some channel control scripts that allow you to do most of the dcc commands in the channel or /msg |
| [05:50:00] | Beirdo: | I won't use eggdrop |
| [05:51:00] | Beirdo: | it's almost as large as the logbot I have now |
| [05:51:00] | MiX-MaN: | ahh |
| [05:51:00] | [Klatuu]: | eggdrop is huge |
| [05:51:00] | MiX-MaN: | i fig java would be huge |
| [05:51:00] | MiX-MaN: | although eggdrop is kinda hog |
| [05:51:00] | Beirdo: | techbot is my next candidate |
| [05:51:00] | MiX-MaN: | a hog* |
| [05:52:00] | maddhaggis: | Why is it when I try to modprobe my HD3000 with the DVB drivers, I get "permission denied" under mythbackend? |
| [05:54:00] | Agrajag-: | because you dont have the right permissions set for /dev/dvb/* |
| [05:54:00] | maddhaggis: | how do I change those? |
| [05:54:00] | Agrajag-: | chmod |
| [05:55:00] | MiX-MaN: | chmod |
| [05:55:00] | MiX-MaN: | beat me too it |
| [05:55:00] | maddhaggis: | just chmod? |
| [05:55:00] | [Klatuu]: | ugh |
| [05:55:00] | [Klatuu]: | I hate these jump points and key bindings |
| [05:55:00] | Agrajag-: | maddhaggis: something like chmod -R 755 /dev/dvb |
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| [06:01:00] | maddhaggis: | what does -R 755 mean? |
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| [06:01:00] | MiX-MaN: | sets the dir/file premissions |
| [06:02:00] | telepele: | -R – recursively, 755 – user+rwx, group+rx,others+rx |
| [06:03:00] | MiX-MaN: | or in more detailed... what telepele said :) |
| [06:03:00] | Beirdo: | maddhaggis: it means... "man chmod" |
| [06:03:00] | MiX-MaN: | heh |
| [06:03:00] | telepele: | madhaggis: you may need to edit udev config files for the permissions to stick |
| [06:04:00] | maddhaggis: | ok |
| [06:04:00] | maddhaggis: | It seems to have worked...for now...thanks |
| [06:05:00] | telepele: | if you have udev it will get reset every time you boot |
| [06:05:00] | maddhaggis: | Any idea which files need to be edited? |
| [06:06:00] | xris: | Beirdo: which WM should I use? |
| [06:06:00] | Beirdo: | I'd suggest fluxbox or ratpoison |
| [06:06:00] | [Klatuu]: | use a light window manager |
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| [06:07:00] | Beirdo: | I use ratpoison on my PVR, it works great for em |
| [06:07:00] | Beirdo: | me |
| [06:07:00] | Beirdo: | xris: you may want to update the CVS nuvexport if you don't do so automagically. |
| [06:07:00] | xris: | svn, you mean? or cvs |
| [06:07:00] | Beirdo: | I just fixed a few tickets while you were installing |
| [06:07:00] | Beirdo: | and I checked them into SVN |
| [06:07:00] | xris: | going into cvs now |
| [06:08:00] | xris: | man, I love svn2cvs |
| [06:08:00] | Beirdo: | so the CVS will need sync :) |
| [06:08:00] | xris: | no problem. |
| [06:08:00] | xris: | done |
| [06:08:00] | Beirdo: | sweet |
| [06:08:00] | Beirdo: | so we have --force-aspect now |
| [06:09:00] | Beirdo: | and the NUV_SQL is unborked |
| [06:09:00] | Beirdo: | and nuvinfo no longer spews warnings :) |
| [06:09:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:09:00] | Beirdo: | and gopdit's crap, only cuts on GOP |
| [06:10:00] | xris: | really? thought he specifically said that it was hacked NOT to do that. |
| [06:11:00] | Beirdo: | not according to the site |
| [06:11:00] | Agrajag-: | maybe you should rename the --force-aspect to --force-import-aspect or something |
| [06:11:00] | xris: | site's release version didn't have he cool additions. |
| [06:11:00] | Agrajag-: | so as to not confuse people who think they're going to get that as the output aspect |
| [06:12:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:12:00] | Beirdo: | they can read the non-existant manual |
| [06:12:00] | ** Beirdo pokes MajestiK ** | |
| [06:12:00] | Agrajag-: | heh |
| [06:12:00] | xris: | Beirdo: I should install that trac auto-close script... just put "fixes #1" into the log message and it'll close the ticket. |
| [06:12:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [06:12:00] | Beirdo: | I thought you had... until I tried it. :) |
| [06:13:00] | Agrajag-: | what if someone write "i think this fixes #1", and it really should mark the ticket for review (or whatever status trac has) |
| [06:13:00] | Agrajag-: | heh |
| [06:14:00] | xris: | Agrajag-: they should know better |
| [06:14:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:14:00] | Beirdo: | compiling CVS avidemux |
| [06:15:00] | Beirdo: | this will make the basis of a mpeg cutter if it works right |
| [06:16:00] | Beirdo: | I'll carefully gut it and remove all gtk crap |
| [06:16:00] | Beirdo: | and all SDL, etc |
| [06:18:00] | xris: | heh |
| [06:18:00] | xris: | would be nice to just get it put into mythtranscode |
| [06:19:00] | xris: | ok. ubuntu sucks, installs way too much software. |
| [06:19:00] | Beirdo: | huh? |
| [06:19:00] | xris: | I do not WANT openoffice. heh. |
| [06:19:00] | Beirdo: | the hell it does |
| [06:19:00] | xris: | or gimp |
| [06:19:00] | Beirdo: | it installs what you TELL it to install |
| [06:19:00] | xris: | it's asked me nothing of the sort so far. |
| [06:19:00] | Beirdo: | so stop being silly, and don't tell it to install shit you don't want |
| [06:19:00] | xris: | so far, it's just started installing stuff. |
| [06:20:00] | Beirdo: | let me guess. |
| [06:20:00] | Beirdo: | you said to install a workstation? |
| [06:20:00] | xris: | I did the default install because it said if I didn't, it wouldn't install X |
| [06:20:00] | Beirdo: | correct |
| [06:20:00] | Beirdo: | you don't want it to install X |
| [06:20:00] | xris: | but I do |
| [06:20:00] | xris: | I've had WAY too many problems installing X after the fact. |
| [06:20:00] | Beirdo: | you want to tell it to install X *after* you've installed the base system |
| [06:20:00] | xris: | fedora has jaded me |
| [06:21:00] | Beirdo: | well then have fun pulling all the excess shit back out :) |
| [06:21:00] | Beirdo: | default install installs excessive crap :) |
| [06:21:00] | Beirdo: | much like Fedora :) |
| [06:21:00] | maddhaggis: | OK antennaweb.org says that channel 3.1 in my area is also freq 40....does that mean I enter 40 as my start channel in mythtvsetup? or 3.1 or 3_1... I don't know. |
| [06:23:00] | maddhaggis: | :Beirdo any thoughts? |
| [06:23:00] | Beirdo: | I don't know |
| [06:24:00] | maddhaggis: | Anyone??? |
| [06:25:00] | Beirdo: | ah WTF?! |
| [06:25:00] | Beirdo: | my windows box won't play MPEG2 video now? |
| [06:26:00] | rpete: | reboot |
| [06:26:00] | rpete: | or just reinstall |
| [06:27:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [06:28:00] | rjune_: | you have to upgrade window |
| [06:28:00] | rjune_: | windows |
| [06:28:00] | Beirdo: | get bent :) |
| [06:28:00] | rjune_: | you need to install X windows v 6.8 |
| [06:29:00] | Beirdo: | OK, now it's working in WMP, and not realplayer |
| [06:29:00] | Beirdo: | stupidass Windows |
| [06:30:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [06:30:00] | Beirdo: | "Your realplayer requires an upgrade" |
| [06:30:00] | Beirdo: | now it's downloading RP 10.5 |
| [06:30:00] | rjune_: | nice |
| [06:36:00] | Beirdo: | and it STILL doesn't work in RP |
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| [06:58:00] | xris: | so.. are there .18 packages for ubuntu? |
| [07:00:00] | Beirdo: | you'd have to ask mdz |
| [07:03:00] | xris: | ok, so what was that chkconfig lookalike script for ubuntu? |
| [07:03:00] | Beirdo: | update-rcd? |
| [07:03:00] | Beirdo: | rc.d rather |
| [07:04:00] | xris: | so is there a chkconfig --list type option? |
| [07:05:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [07:06:00] | Beirdo: | ls /etc/init.d? |
| [07:06:00] | Beirdo: | not sure off hand |
| [07:08:00] | xris: | yeah, it's there, but it's the rc.d runlevel things that set what's what |
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| [07:10:00] | buck68: | anybody here running a dual display system with mythtv, mine broke after I upgraded to 0.18 :-( |
| [07:13:00] | MajestiK: | Can I run a mythfilldatabase on a slave system, or do I need to run in on the main backend? |
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| [07:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hi mchou |
| [07:15:00] | mchou: | Hey SlicerDicer- |
| [07:15:00] | mchou: | what's up? |
| [07:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am ripping all my dvd's to harddisk :) |
| [07:15:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [07:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | like 67 episodes of Due South and alot of other stuff haha |
| [07:16:00] | mchou: | in preparation for you trip to AUS? |
| [07:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats part of the idea yep |
| [07:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its not NTSC there its PAL and the region codes are different |
| [07:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | pain in the arse I do say so myself |
| [07:16:00] | mchou: | Due South?? What the hell is that show? |
| [07:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | omfg.... |
| [07:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | you never seen it? |
| [07:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its about a canadian mounty |
| [07:17:00] | LLyric: | Whatcha coming down to Australia for? |
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| [07:17:00] | rpete: | that's very old isn't it? |
| [07:17:00] | mchou: | never even heard of it, never mind seen it. |
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| [07:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rpete: ahh mid 90's i guess |
| [07:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | LLyric: movin there :) |
| [07:17:00] | rpete: | SlicerDicer- must be canadian or something |
| [07:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nah it was broadcast in USA for 4 seasons IIRC |
| [07:17:00] | LLyric: | SlicerDicer-: ah cool, which city? |
| [07:17:00] | rpete: | yeah, and no one watched it :-) |
| [07:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it was on CBS |
| [07:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | reruns were on TNT |
| [07:18:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: this one? http://imdb.com/title/tt0108756/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZ . . . 1;ft=20;fm=1 |
| [07:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | LLyric: well Central Coast area |
| [07:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep thats it mchou |
| [07:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I love it its great |
| [07:18:00] | rpete: | heh |
| [07:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Dry Humor |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | anyone know how to get mythtv into ubuntu? |
| [07:19:00] | ** rpete needs a laugh track ** | |
| [07:19:00] | LLyric: | SlicerDicer-: I live in Melbourne, and commute all over the place |
| [07:19:00] | rpete: | so I know when to chuckle |
| [07:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | One of my favorite lines in that its the pilot actually is "You go stick your nose in one of those 68 unsolved cases and stay there untill you have a ipiffany" lol |
| [07:19:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: I sounds like Beverly Hills Cop in reverse :) |
| [07:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | LLyric: I would say a good 90% of the people online htat I meet are in Victoria |
| [07:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah mchou cept without the foul language :) and its not crude humor its dry |
| [07:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well damn mchou thats good |
| [07:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | (68 episodes) I said 67 without knowing 100% sure haha |
| [07:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris: google.com "mythtv ubuntu howto" perhaps? |
| [07:23:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: figured it out. no debs for .18 yet. |
| [07:23:00] | mchou: | heh, it's written by David Shore, who also writes for House M.D. |
| [07:23:00] | xris: | should have just stuck with fedora. would be up and running by now. heh. |
| [07:24:00] | Agrajag-: | just compile from source! |
| [07:24:00] | Agrajag-: | be a man! |
| [07:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | exactly |
| [07:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or use gentoo |
| [07:24:00] | Agrajag-: | btw im in NSW :P |
| [07:24:00] | mchou: | xris: I was not at all impressed by Kubuntu. |
| [07:24:00] | Agrajag-: | pfffft not gentoo |
| [07:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | why not gentoo I am the ultimate gentoo ricer |
| [07:24:00] | xris: | mchou: I'm angry at some people involved with fedora. need to at least get this out of my system |
| [07:24:00] | Agrajag-: | SlicerDicer-: you said it yourself :P |
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| [07:25:00] | RicerDicer: | I can admit I am a ricer with gentoo |
| [07:25:00] | mchou: | xris: why, what did they do to ya? :) |
| [07:25:00] | xris: | not to me. just being dumb and f'cking up fedora's future. |
| [07:25:00] | RicerDicer: | I mess with all the flags and use till its just perfect |
| [07:25:00] | RicerDicer: | but of course I am runnint 64bit so it dont take long to compile things |
| [07:25:00] | Agrajag-: | RicerDicer: do you like to wait those extra hours so your apps run 0.05% faster? :P |
| [07:25:00] | mchou: | xris: lol, at least they didnt rename themselves mandriva :) |
| [07:25:00] | RicerDicer: | Agrajag-: it dont hurt to experiment at night |
| [07:26:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm well generally i like to sleep at night |
| [07:26:00] | RicerDicer: | Agrajag-: emerge foo with testing settings when you go to sleep |
| [07:26:00] | RicerDicer: | wake up and see how it is :) |
| [07:26:00] | RicerDicer: | no harm in doing that I havent ever broke my system hehe |
| [07:26:00] | Agrajag-: | if it's slower (probable) you then have to wait till tomorrow to fix it :P |
| [07:27:00] | xris: | ahh, misspelled an apt repo. build-dep mythtv works now. |
| [07:27:00] | RicerDicer: | Agrajag-: thats why you build packages as well out of what you are doing and keep them all untill your finished :) |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | shit, I was fixing font problems all night :) |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | no need for bigger problems :) |
| [07:29:00] | RicerDicer: | I mean hell I build my own emul libraries so I can run whatever I want :) when I got my 64bit system about ohh 8 months ago now I guess it was Cedega had to be run in chroot and I did it without it cause of being bored and refusing to do it and now I just build them myself so yeah I am a ricerdicer |
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| [07:29:00] | Agrajag-: | i prefer for my stuff to 'just work' :) |
| [07:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Agrajag-: :) |
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| [07:31:00] | mchou: | well, I gotta get some sleep. pulled an all nighter last night. |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | I'm incoherent..... |
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| [07:47:00] | Bogus8: | any new word on audio on the PVR150 tuner 39? |
| [07:47:00] | rpete: | have you taken this up with the ivtv list? |
| [07:48:00] | Bogus8: | rpete: I posted on the forum |
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| [07:48:00] | rpete: | good enough then |
| [07:48:00] | Bogus8: | http://www.shspvr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7980 |
| [07:54:00] | rpete: | Bogus8, I'm a little confused at your mention of hooking up pvr150 to sound card line in |
| [07:54:00] | Bogus8: | rpete: apparently I worded that poorly... I hooked up the sat reciever to the line in |
| [07:55:00] | Bogus8: | just to test to make sure it was sending signal and such |
| [07:55:00] | rpete: | okay, but you understand that the audio encoded to mpeg |
| [07:56:00] | Bogus8: | rpete: yeah it is supposed to ... but it's not |
| [07:56:00] | Bogus8: | i just edited to state that i hooked the reciever up not "it" |
| [07:57:00] | rpete: | you've heard the whole speil about ivtv vs stock msp3400 module? |
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| [07:58:00] | Bogus8: | rpete: I read about the msp3400 with the 250/350 but I couldn't find a msp3400 on my system |
| [07:59:00] | rpete: | okay, maybe it doesn't apply to pvr150 |
| [08:01:00] | xris: | any air2pc + ubuntu users? |
| [08:01:00] | rpete: | what you're saying is that the audio input to the pvr150 is good because you've hooked it up to your sound card and can hear the sound |
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| [08:03:00] | rpete: | well I'm no help at all |
| [08:03:00] | Bogus8: | rpete: basically I know the satellite is putting out sound and I know the pc can play sound cause I've played wavs and such |
| [08:03:00] | Bogus8: | it just doesn't go through the pvr150 |
| [08:04:00] | rpete: | okay, that clears it up very well |
| [08:04:00] | Bogus8: | and it doesn't capture either |
| [08:04:00] | Bogus8: | tried cat'ing it to make sure it wasn't just a front end issue |
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| [08:04:00] | eyebean: | hello, does anyone run mythtv on fc4 yet? |
| [08:06:00] | Bogus8: | didn't even know they had a release canidate for fc4 already |
| [08:06:00] | Agrajag-: | ***anyone: No such nick/channel |
| [08:07:00] | eyebean: | there's just fc4-test2 |
| [08:07:00] | Bogus8: | how is it |
| [08:07:00] | eyebean: | not sure if that's RC? |
| [08:07:00] | eyebean: | i'm dowloading it :) |
| [08:08:00] | Bogus8: | ah |
| [08:10:00] | eyebean: | i coudln't find the DVD for FC3 ... so defaulted to FC4-test2 |
| [08:11:00] | eyebean: | http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/ |
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| [08:11:00] | Bogus8: | eyebean: ?? they have the torrents linked from redhat's page.... at least they did |
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| [08:12:00] | eyebean: | also, it's from Nov 2004! ... figure FC4 is coming soon |
| [08:12:00] | eyebean: | guess i'm confused by the name heidelberg-i386-DVD.torrent |
| [08:12:00] | Bogus8: | yeah that's it |
| [08:13:00] | eyebean: | ok ... grabbing both |
| [08:13:00] | eyebean: | already have 1/2 of FC4-t2 anyway ... why such a huge distro ... |
| [08:14:00] | eyebean: | i don't need half the stuff, eh? |
| [08:14:00] | Bogus8: | word |
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| [08:27:00] | Agrajag-: | eyebean: sounds like debian is what you want :) |
| [08:27:00] | Bogus8: | the backend is supposed to be run by the user not root right? |
| [08:27:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [08:28:00] | Bogus8: | Agrajag-: thanks just trying to eliminate everything |
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| [08:32:00] | Skif: | What does "i2c_adapter i2c-2: I2C level transfers not supported" mean? |
| [08:33:00] | Skif: | and, while I'm interrogating total strangers, why would the cx25840 module claim it couldn't load any firmware, when I have /lib/modules/ivtv-fw-{dec,enc}.bin ? |
| [08:38:00] | Bogus8: | everytime my system boots up /dev/video0 permissions are messed up |
| [08:39:00] | Beirdo: | Heheh |
| [08:39:00] | Beirdo: | seems I had to log out and log in, and that fixed windows |
| [08:40:00] | ** xris gave up ** | |
| [08:40:00] | xris: | back to fedora |
| [08:42:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [08:42:00] | Beirdo: | wuss |
| [08:42:00] | Beirdo: | ah well, you were trying to change too many things at a time |
| [08:42:00] | xris: | exactly |
| [08:42:00] | xris: | my biggest issue is that axel's alsa stuff freaks out and always sets the PCM volume to muted |
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| [08:51:00] | xris: | may have found a fix for that, though. cool |
| [08:55:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [08:55:00] | Beirdo: | goin to bed :) |
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| [09:07:00] | xris: | I should do that |
| [09:08:00] | laga: | morning |
| [09:08:00] | laga: | night xris & beirdo ;) |
| [09:08:00] | ** xris can't go to bed quite yet ** | |
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| [09:47:00] | furfurfur: | hi all! To use EPG over DVB-S do I need tv_grab_dvb or is it built in to MythTV now? |
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| [09:48:00] | johnp_: | some EPG stuff is built in, but your millage may vary. |
| [09:48:00] | furfurfur: | suck it and see then? :) |
| [09:49:00] | johnp_: | I think I'd build it in, try it and if it doesn't work revert to tv_grab_dvb. |
| [09:49:00] | johnp_: | yeah |
| [09:49:00] | johnp_: | if it doesn't work dopester did some tools to grab a dump of the data, if you get that he might try and fix it. (maybe) |
| [09:49:00] | furfurfur: | Is there an easy way to see if it's been built in? I'm using gentoo and there isn't a USE flag for it. |
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| [09:51:00] | johnp_: | not a gentoo person. but the define is USING_DVB_EIT I think. should be generated by the new (configure script) |
| [09:51:00] | furfurfur: | Thanks, I will dig around the build area to see if that was defined. |
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| [10:07:00] | fryfrog: | does anyone use their xbox as an FE? |
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| [10:15:00] | phon: | nope |
| [10:15:00] | furfurfur: | fryfrog: I asked the same question yesterday. I am just going to try it out and see if it works OK |
| [10:17:00] | phon: | anyone knows wheter there is a seperate channel somewhere to discuss ivtv issues ? |
| [10:18:00] | furfurfur: | nope |
| [10:19:00] | phon: | damn |
| [10:19:00] | phon: | you don't happen to use a PVR350 ? |
| [10:19:00] | furfurfur: | No sorry. SkyStar 2 |
| [10:20:00] | phon: | damn, i'm having problems playing a regular video file and was looking for somebody with the same problems |
| [10:20:00] | phon: | but there's never much action in here |
| [10:21:00] | furfurfur: | Well... I haven't been here often but people seem helpful enough when they *can* help. I guess there are so many ways of using MythTV... |
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| [10:23:00] | intrade: | ok ta etorix |
| [10:23:00] | intrade: | wops wron channel |
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| [10:29:00] | phon: | anyone knows whether the ivtvdev framebuffer driver for X get updated automatically when i install a new ivtv version ? |
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| [10:46:00] | laga: | Changes committed by jarod on Wed May 4 19:12:16 2005 |
| [10:46:00] | laga: | on branch: release-0-18-fixes |
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| [10:47:00] | laga: | ^^ i'm seeing these messages in the -commits archive. does anyone know if/when there will be bugfix releases? |
| [10:47:00] | beavis: | sure soon |
| [10:47:00] | laga: | cool. |
| [10:48:00] | laga: | beavis: are you sure, or is it just the usual "when it's done" answer? ;) |
| [10:48:00] | beavis: | jarod is responsible for the 0.18.x releases |
| [10:55:00] | phon: | (EE) IVTVDEV(0): FBIOBLANK: Invalid argument |
| [10:56:00] | phon: | anyone knows what this error means ? |
| [10:56:00] | phon: | i get it a lot in the xorg log |
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| [11:19:00] | Spida: | what are those changes about? |
| [11:19:00] | Spida: | laga? |
| [11:19:00] | laga: | Spida: check the commits archive ;) |
| [11:20:00] | Spida: | url? |
| [11:20:00] | laga: | it's somewhere at gossamers |
| [11:20:00] | Spida: | hm, ok |
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| [12:22:00] | krystalino: | hi |
| [12:23:00] | laga: | salut |
| [12:24:00] | krystalino: | fr here ? |
| [12:25:00] | laga: | je suis aleman ;) |
| [12:25:00] | krystalino: | hehe :) |
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| [12:26:00] | krystalino: | i just discovered the mythtv web page. It looks cool. What are the advantages of mythtv ? |
| [12:27:00] | krystalino: | in comparison to xaw |
| [12:28:00] | laga: | umm. look at the screen shots ;) |
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| [12:31:00] | krystalino: | looks better :) |
| [12:31:00] | laga: | yep. and it has a lot more features. |
| [12:31:00] | krystalino: | can i use USB tv card with it ? |
| [12:32:00] | krystalino: | USB tv tuner card |
| [12:32:00] | laga: | depends. some are supported, some arent. |
| [12:32:00] | laga: | which one? |
| [12:32:00] | krystalino: | wich one works well ? |
| [12:32:00] | beavis: | commercial flagging and lots more |
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| [12:33:00] | krystalino: | how works the hauppage USB ? |
| [12:33:00] | laga: | krystalino: none of the usb tuner cards work, except for some dvb cards and the plextor convertX |
| [12:33:00] | Agrajag-: | krystalino: does it work with xawtv? |
| [12:34:00] | krystalino: | Agrajag-, i don't have bought it yet, so i don't know |
| [12:34:00] | krystalino: | laga, k |
| [12:34:00] | Agrajag-: | oh ok. dont get a usb one then :P |
| [12:34:00] | krystalino: | Agrajag-, :/ i have a laptop :) |
| [12:35:00] | krystalino: | btw, can i record small movies from a webcam with mythtv ? (movie and sound) ? |
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| [12:53:00] | freqmod: | I think I have found a bug in the mythtv program guide drawing code, and i am not able to find any posts on the mailing list. I have upgraded to the last version of QT (3.3.4) and to mythtv-cvs, and run mythfilldatabase without any improvement. Does anyone know what to do next? (I have made a GDB backtrace) |
| [12:53:00] | freqmod: | I think i have found a bug in the mythtv drawing code. |
| [12:54:00] | stoffel_: | you could send a description on how to trigger the bug together with the backtrace to the mythtv-dev mailing list |
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| [12:55:00] | freqmod: | I think I have found a new bug in the MythTv program guide drawing code. |
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| [12:56:00] | freqmod: | I think i have found a bug in the mythtv drawing code. |
| [12:57:00] | laga: | freqmod: we can hear you. |
| [12:57:00] | freqmod: | Thanks, i had some problems with KOPETE:( |
| [12:58:00] | ** laga uses irssi ** | |
| [12:58:00] | furfurfur: | Hi All. Does MythTV handle multiple tuner cards of different types OK? I.E. DVB-S alongside an old bttv thang |
| [12:58:00] | laga: | furfurfur: it should. |
| [12:58:00] | freqmod: | furfurfur: Yes. |
| [12:59:00] | jhs_s: | Hi! It sounds stupid but where can I configure the "Play VCD" command? I just cannot find it... |
| [12:59:00] | stoffel_: | freqmod: you could send a description on how to trigger the bug together with the backtrace to the mythtv-dev mailing list |
| [12:59:00] | furfurfur: | Thanks. Will give it a go.. Although I imagine I will get very annoyed with the analog quality :) |
| [12:59:00] | freqmod: | Thanks:) |
| [12:59:00] | laga: | furfurfur: yep ;) |
| [12:59:00] | bronco1: | freqmod: is it that you cant click on the exit button? |
| [13:00:00] | furfurfur: | Unfortunately not all freeview channels are available on DVB-S right now |
| [13:00:00] | freqmod: | No, when i go into the program guide the frontend terminates with a memory segmenting error. |
| [13:01:00] | freqmod: | I use a dual analog and DVB-S setup. It worked before i enabled the on air epg guide. |
| [13:02:00] | furfurfur: | Ah. I am planning to use OTA EPG too. Did you have manu problems setting it up? |
| [13:02:00] | freqmod: | [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 15437)] |
| [13:02:00] | freqmod: | 0xb6cc3071 in operator==(QString const&, char const*) () |
| [13:02:00] | freqmod: | from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| [13:02:00] | freqmod: | (gdb) bt |
| [13:02:00] | freqmod: | #0 0xb6cc3071 in operator==(QString const&, char const*) () |
| [13:02:00] | freqmod: | from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| [13:02:00] | freqmod: | #1 0xb6cc3114 in operator!=(QString const&, char const*) () |
| [13:02:00] | freqmod: | from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| [13:02:00] | freqmod: | #2 0xb79ebb3b in GuideGrid::paintChannels(QPainter*) () |
| [13:03:00] | freqmod: | That is the top of the backtrace i got from GDB. |
| [13:03:00] | stoffel_: | freqmod: oh please, stop it |
| [13:03:00] | stoffel_: | thx |
| [13:03:00] | laga: | www.pastebin.ca |
| [13:03:00] | krystalino: | errr |
| [13:03:00] | krystalino: | bou( |
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| [13:03:00] | krystalino: | bout web cams no idea ? |
| [13:04:00] | krystalino: | does mythtv use v4l ? |
| [13:04:00] | stoffel_: | krystalino: sure |
| [13:04:00] | krystalino: | well |
| [13:05:00] | krystalino: | then my wecam is recognised, do you think it will work with mythtv then ? |
| [13:06:00] | freqmod: | Here is the whole backtrace:http://pastebin.ca/11112 |
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| [13:07:00] | krystalino: | is 0.18 stable ? |
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| [13:09:00] | bronco1: | I was wondering if someone in here could help me with xmame |
| [13:09:00] | bronco1: | I seem to have a dependancy issue |
| [13:09:00] | bronco1: | Failed dependencies: |
| [13:09:00] | bronco1: | libglide3.so.3 is needed by xmame-0.95–1.1.fc3.fr.i386 |
| [13:11:00] | freqmod: | bronco1: Look at this: http://www.dlhoffman.com/publiclibrary/RPM/libglide3.so.3.html |
| [13:12:00] | bronco1: | yeah |
| [13:12:00] | bronco1: | I found that on a google search |
| [13:12:00] | bronco1: | I don't have a 3dfx video card though |
| [13:13:00] | freqmod: | Then it seems like the emulator is compiled with support for the graphics card even if you don't have it. |
| [13:14:00] | bronco1: | ok.. that makes sense |
| [13:14:00] | bronco1: | I can't find a good source for documentation and help on xmame install! |
| [13:14:00] | bronco1: | so from the dlhoffman.com site, what should I install? |
| [13:15:00] | freqmod: | I don't really know, just try to pick one. I don't use |
| [13:15:00] | freqmod: | a RPM distrebution myself. |
| [13:16:00] | bronco1: | so I should install xmame from source? |
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| [13:16:00] | freqmod: | That is the easies way to install it, but it makes it much more problematic to uninstall it. |
| [13:17:00] | bronco1: | why? |
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| [13:18:00] | krystalino: | wtf has to do tv application and mame ... |
| [13:18:00] | freqmod: | krystalino: Xmame can be used by a pluhin in mythtv. |
| [13:18:00] | laga: | krystalino: mythgame. |
| [13:19:00] | freqmod: | After a year with source installation on RedHat linu 9.0 my macheene was a mess. |
| [13:19:00] | bronco1: | heh |
| [13:21:00] | furfurfur: | quick question – plugins. I have a backend with no TV out, and a frontend connected to the TV. Which machine do I install the plugins onto? I guess mythweb would go on the backend, what about something like mythgallery? |
| [13:22:00] | laga: | furfurfur: frontend |
| [13:22:00] | krystalino: | yeap, i read that, but find it weird |
| [13:22:00] | bronco1: | hmm |
| [13:22:00] | krystalino: | it breaks the classical "make it small, but good" |
| [13:22:00] | ** bronco1 cant find a libglide3 rpm on the hoffman site ** | |
| [13:22:00] | furfurfur: | laga: mythweb goes on the backend though right? |
| [13:22:00] | bronco1: | yikes! |
| [13:23:00] | bronco1: | furfurfur: yes, on the backend |
| [13:23:00] | stoffel: | furfurfur: plugins are installed on the frontends. mythweb goes wherever you like |
| [13:23:00] | furfurfur: | stoffel: thanks. That makes sense. |
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| [13:26:00] | bronco1: | freqmod: so if I install mame with the rpm -i --force option, do you think it will work? |
| [13:27:00] | jemarcks: | --force is not a good idea. could cause dependancy problems latter |
| [13:27:00] | bronco1: | hmm |
| [13:27:00] | freqmod: | Well, you can try and see, you may just uninstall it if it does not work. |
| [13:27:00] | bronco1: | Im just wondering why I am the only one that is having this issue |
| [13:28:00] | bronco1: | I cant find anything on google about it |
| [13:30:00] | furfurfur: | I missed the start of this conversation, but do you actually have libglade on the system? |
| [13:31:00] | bronco1: | no |
| [13:31:00] | bronco1: | I am just trying to install xmame from freshrpms |
| [13:31:00] | bronco1: | xmame-0.95–1.1.fc3.fr.i386.rpm |
| [13:32:00] | furfurfur: | If the binary that's in that RPM is linked against glade, then you *will* need it :) |
| [13:32:00] | bronco1: | which I got from http://heidelberg.freshrpms.net/rpm.html?id=1143 |
| [13:33:00] | bronco1: | so when I try to do a rpm -i xmame-0.95–1.1.fc3.fr.i386.rpm |
| [13:33:00] | bronco1: | error: Failed dependencies: |
| [13:33:00] | bronco1: | libglide3.so.3 is needed by xmame-0.95–1.1.fc3.fr.i386 |
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| [13:33:00] | furfurfur: | oh. lol... glide not glade :) |
| [13:33:00] | bronco1: | and I cant find a package for libglide3 |
| [13:34:00] | bronco1: | glide is a driver for 3dfx cards |
| [13:34:00] | bronco1: | I just cant find a source for fedora |
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| [13:35:00] | furfurfur: | can you get the SRPM of Xmame, edit the spec to remove the glide dep and rebuild? |
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| [13:35:00] | man_in_shack: | mythtv won't pick up my brand new dvb card |
| [13:36:00] | freqmod: | man_in_shack: Does *zap work? |
| [13:36:00] | bronco1: | furfurfur: sure... I have not done that before |
| [13:36:00] | man_in_shack: | *zap? |
| [13:36:00] | bronco1: | furfurfur: is there some docs on how to do that? |
| [13:36:00] | bronco1: | brb |
| [13:36:00] | freqmod: | see: http://www.linuxtv.org |
| [13:37:00] | freqmod: | Here is the dvb tools from the kernel project: http://www.linuxtv.org/downloads/linuxtv-dvb-apps-1.1.0.tar.bz2 |
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| [13:37:00] | furfurfur: | bronco1: I guess the RPM guide at RedHat. I must say though I haven't used RedHat since 7.3. I don't miss RPM hell :) |
| [13:37:00] | man_in_shack: | cx88[0]: subsystem: 17de:08a6, board: KWorld/VStream XPert DVB-T [card=14,autodetected] << does that look right? |
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| [13:39:00] | freqmod: | That looks good. |
| [13:39:00] | man_in_shack: | cool |
| [13:39:00] | man_in_shack: | apt-get install dvb-utils dvbtune |
| [13:39:00] | freqmod: | Do you have the devices in /dev/dvb/* |
| [13:40:00] | man_in_shack: | i have no /dev/dvb |
| [13:40:00] | man_in_shack: | i'm not using udev or devfs |
| [13:40:00] | freqmod: | Then you have to generate them manually. Is dvb-utils installed? |
| [13:40:00] | man_in_shack: | it's installing now |
| [13:41:00] | freqmod: | Check again when it's finished. |
| [13:41:00] | man_in_shack: | it's installed |
| [13:42:00] | freqmod: | Ok, download: http://www.linuxtv.org/downloads/linuxtv-dvb-apps-1.1.0.tar.bz2 |
| [13:42:00] | man_in_shack: | debian doesn't have that? |
| [13:42:00] | freqmod: | forget it. |
| [13:42:00] | man_in_shack: | ... |
| [13:43:00] | man_in_shack: | get it or don't get it? |
| [13:43:00] | freqmod: | Dont get it. It didn't contain the right script. |
| [13:43:00] | man_in_shack: | ok |
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| [13:44:00] | freqmod: | Get this instead: http://www.linuxtv.org/downloads/linuxtv-dvb-1.1.1.tar.bz2 |
| [13:44:00] | freqmod: | Unpack it and run MAKEDEV-DVB.sh |
| [13:45:00] | man_in_shack: | ok |
| [13:45:00] | man_in_shack: | done |
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| [13:45:00] | freqmod: | Then you should have the devices. |
| [13:46:00] | man_in_shack: | ok |
| [13:46:00] | man_in_shack: | now what? |
| [13:46:00] | freqmod: | Run mythtv setup. |
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| [13:47:00] | freqmod: | And create a new capture card. |
| [13:47:00] | man_in_shack: | still says it can't open dvb card 0 |
| [13:47:00] | freqmod: | hmm... |
| [13:48:00] | freqmod: | Does the debuan dvb utils include a program named scan? |
| [13:48:00] | man_in_shack: | yep |
| [13:49:00] | man_in_shack: | this is australia, btw |
| [13:49:00] | freqmod: | Does debian ave a dvb-t file in /usr/share/<name of the package>/dvb-c/ ? |
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| [13:50:00] | freqmod: | ehh... dvb-t |
| [13:50:00] | man_in_shack: | yes |
| [13:50:00] | man_in_shack: | i think |
| [13:51:00] | man_in_shack: | sorry, didn't read all your question there 8) |
| [13:51:00] | freqmod: | look for a file that corresponds to your loaction and try to run scan <the name of the file> |
| [13:51:00] | freqmod: | with the name of the file as argument |
| [13:52:00] | man_in_shack: | ah ok |
| [13:52:00] | man_in_shack: | main:1882: FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 6 No such device or address |
| [13:52:00] | freqmod: | hmm.. that means that the device is not recognized. |
| [13:53:00] | man_in_shack: | figures |
| [13:53:00] | freqmod: | Which do you have a 2.6 or 2.4 kernel? |
| [13:53:00] | man_in_shack: | 2.6.11 |
| [13:53:00] | man_in_shack: | compiled myself |
| [13:53:00] | man_in_shack: | and i included all the modules i thought i'd need for this card or the other ones i was looking at |
| [13:55:00] | freqmod: | run: find /sys|grep dvb |
| [13:55:00] | fatmatt: | man_in_shack: type in "dmesg" look for DVB: registering frontend 0 (DST DVB-T)... |
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| [13:56:00] | man_in_shack: | brb |
| [13:56:00] | furfurfur: | I've checked out dvb-apps from linuxtv. It doesn't have "scan" or "dvstream".Where do these come from? |
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| [13:57:00] | freqmod: | /home/.../dwnl/linuxtv-dvb-apps-1.1.0/util/scan/scan |
| [13:57:00] | man_in_shack: | ahh back to a REAL client :) |
| [13:58:00] | fatmatt: | man_in_shack: what dtv card did you get? |
| [13:58:00] | man_in_shack: | dmseg|grep DVB comes up with only that line i posted boefore |
| [13:58:00] | furfurfur: | oh yeah! guess it doesn't get built by default |
| [13:58:00] | man_in_shack: | fatmatt, KWorld/VStream XPert DVB-T |
| [13:59:00] | fatmatt: | whats lspci tell you about it? any clies about chipsets? |
| [13:59:00] | fatmatt: | you need i2c support enabled as well I think |
| [13:59:00] | man_in_shack: | fatmatt, the chip has conexant written on it |
| [14:00:00] | man_in_shack: | 0000:01:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Winfast TV2000 XP (rev 05) |
| [14:00:00] | man_in_shack: | 0000:01:09.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant: Unknown device 8802 (rev 05) |
| [14:00:00] | man_in_shack: | my dad has a REAL winfast tv2000 xp i think |
| [14:00:00] | furfurfur: | freqmod: It was compiled and installed, only it seems to be called dvbscan now :) |
| [14:03:00] | freqmod: | Did you choose customize frontends when you compiled your kernel? |
| [14:03:00] | ** man_in_shack is sad ** | |
| [14:03:00] | man_in_shack: | sorta |
| [14:03:00] | man_in_shack: | ish |
| [14:03:00] | fatmatt: | man_in_shack: did you select the bt848 module in "Video for linux" |
| [14:03:00] | man_in_shack: | bt848 ... checking |
| [14:03:00] | freqmod: | Is Contexant CX22700 base & OFDM checked? |
| [14:04:00] | man_in_shack: | no i didn't |
| [14:04:00] | man_in_shack: | fatmatt, it's a dvb card though |
| [14:04:00] | man_in_shack: | it's confusing |
| [14:04:00] | man_in_shack: | it's dvb-t |
| [14:04:00] | fatmatt: | yah, I need the bt848 stuff or connexant to get my twinhan workinh |
| [14:05:00] | freqmod: | Look at this : http://www.helkit.com/cgi-bin/twiki/bin/view/ . . . onexantNotes |
| [14:05:00] | man_in_shack: | <M> Conexant 2388x (bt878 successor) support << i got that :S |
| [14:06:00] | furfurfur: | I still can't find dvbstream – any ideas? |
| [14:06:00] | freqmod: | Why do you need dvbstream? |
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| [14:06:00] | man_in_shack: | fatmatt, so i need bt848? |
| [14:07:00] | fatmatt: | man_in_shack: worth a shot, won't hurt.. |
| [14:07:00] | fatmatt: | and i2x |
| [14:07:00] | furfurfur: | freqmod: To test my card once it's installed before confusing matters with Myth TV :) |
| [14:07:00] | fatmatt: | i2c |
| [14:07:00] | freqmod: | Use * |
| [14:07:00] | furfurfur: | if dvbstream isn't right – then what could be used instead? |
| [14:07:00] | man_in_shack: | --- Supported BT878 Adapters |
| [14:08:00] | man_in_shack: | < > Nebula/Pinnacle PCTV/Twinhan PCI cards (NEW) |
| [14:08:00] | man_in_shack: | that a good idea too? |
| [14:08:00] | freqmod: | *zap -r <channelname> |
| [14:08:00] | freqmod: | channelname |
| [14:08:00] | fatmatt: | man_in_shack: you could just select evrything in the multimedia section, then see what loads up if it works |
| [14:08:00] | furfurfur: | I see.. that records a stream to disk does it? that I can presumabely run thru mplayer? |
| [14:08:00] | man_in_shack: | fatmatt, i don't like doing that |
| [14:08:00] | freqmod: | and then mplayer /dev/dvb/adapter*/dvr* , at least if you have a buget card |
| [14:09:00] | man_in_shack: | especially as i won't need usb stuff |
| [14:09:00] | fatmatt: | man_in_shack: well everything obvious then... |
| [14:09:00] | furfurfur: | ah, thanks. Technisat SkyStar.. budget? I would guess so. |
| [14:09:00] | freqmod: | Why not?, just compile it into the kernel, and then remove it when/if it works... |
| [14:10:00] | ** man_in_shack starts the recompile of his kernel ** | |
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| [14:13:00] | man_in_shack: | the antenna i got with my card has a magnet in it |
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| [14:13:00] | man_in_shack: | at the base |
| [14:13:00] | ** man_in_shack doesn't think that's smart ** | |
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| [14:15:00] | freqmod: | I don't really know that much about DVB-T cards. DVB-T is not operational in Norway yet:(. I use a dvb-s card. |
| [14:19:00] | man_in_shack: | yeah |
| [14:19:00] | man_in_shack: | i've got a friend up there ... denmark i think |
| [14:19:00] | man_in_shack: | no dvb-t there either |
| [14:20:00] | man_in_shack: | australia's done pretty well with getting dvb-t, but they didn't do it right |
| [14:20:00] | man_in_shack: | hehe now compiling dvb stuff |
| [14:20:00] | freqmod: | We are supposed to get DVB-T next year, or in 2 years. |
| [14:20:00] | man_in_shack: | dvb/bt8xx .... |
| [14:21:00] | ** man_in_shack has 62 modules loaded ** | |
| [14:22:00] | man_in_shack: | does the dvb stuff use v4l as well? |
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| [14:23:00] | fatmatt: | I think so |
| [14:23:00] | fatmatt: | but... I could be wrong |
| [14:23:00] | freqmod: | DVB uses v4lv2 if it has a hardware decoder. |
| [14:24:00] | fatmatt: | I've got an analog tuner in my case as well, if I leave the bt848 module out for that when I comile, the dvb-t card doesn;t work |
| [14:26:00] | fatmatt: | Depends on: DVB_CORE && PCI && VIDEO_BT848 |
| [14:27:00] | man_in_shack: | well mine's getting picked up as an analogue card it seems |
| [14:27:00] | man_in_shack: | i read a few things that seemed to imply it's a hardware decoder |
| [14:27:00] | fatmatt: | the twinhan cards don't have a hardware decoder and they depend on the BT848 module apparenlty |
| [14:28:00] | man_in_shack: | so the card itself looks like an analogue card. i might be wrong |
| [14:29:00] | fatmatt: | man_in_shack: is it finished compiling yet? |
| [14:29:00] | man_in_shack: | nope |
| [14:29:00] | man_in_shack: | i got a lot of stuff to compile |
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| [14:29:00] | man_in_shack: | it's up to ipv6 now |
| [14:30:00] | fatmatt: | you could just load the modules and do a "make modules" |
| [14:31:00] | man_in_shack: | last time i tried that it broke |
| [14:31:00] | man_in_shack: | i always do a completely fresh kernel |
| [14:31:00] | CyberKnet: | w00t =) |
| [14:31:00] | CyberKnet: | nothing like broken modules =)) |
| [14:32:00] | CyberKnet: | mmmmm.... cranberry biscotti =) |
| [14:33:00] | man_in_shack: | ld'ing now |
| [14:34:00] | CyberKnet: | idling now |
| [14:34:00] | man_in_shack: | already? |
| [14:34:00] | man_in_shack: | you only just stopped 8) |
| [14:34:00] | CyberKnet: | well of course =) |
| [14:35:00] | CyberKnet: | My job demands some of my time =) |
| [14:35:00] | CyberKnet: | and Idling now was supposed to look like ld'ing now |
| [14:35:00] | man_in_shack: | kernel now installed |
| [14:35:00] | man_in_shack: | brb reboot |
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| [14:40:00] | fatmatt: | hmm, what kernel was man_in_shack using... |
| [14:40:00] | CyberKnet: | fatmatt: no idea |
| [14:41:00] | fatmatt: | I just remembered a 2.6.11 issue |
| [14:41:00] | freqmod: | 2.6.11 |
| [14:41:00] | fatmatt: | 2.6.11.8 bugfix > [PATCH] [fix Bug 4395] modprobe bttv freezes the computer |
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| [14:41:00] | freqmod: | If it doesn't work now he cound upgrade to 2.6.12-rc... |
| [14:42:00] | freqmod: | fatmatt15:44:31 |
| [14:42:00] | freqmod: | 2.6.11.8 bugfix > [PATCH] [fix Bug 4395] modprobe bttv freezes the computer |
| [14:42:00] | man_in_shack: | you know what |
| [14:42:00] | man_in_shack: | that didn't help |
| [14:42:00] | man_in_shack: | it's still getting picked up as v4l ... |
| [14:43:00] | freqmod: | Did you see the message i copied from fatmatt when you were away? |
| [14:43:00] | man_in_shack: | cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.4 loaded |
| [14:43:00] | man_in_shack: | cx88[0]: subsystem: 17de:08a6, board: KWorld/VStream XPert DVB-T [card=14,autodetected] |
| [14:43:00] | fatmatt: | man_in_shack: can you pm me a dmesg? |
| [14:43:00] | man_in_shack: | cx2388x blackbird driver version 0.0.4 loaded |
| [14:43:00] | man_in_shack: | ok |
| [14:44:00] | laga: | man_in_shack: just wondering. does your card support hardware mpeg2 encoding? |
| [14:44:00] | fatmatt: | not mine |
| [14:44:00] | man_in_shack: | laga, i doubt ity |
| [14:44:00] | man_in_shack: | *it |
| [14:44:00] | laga: | man_in_shack: well, the guys at pluthome.com have a driver for black bird cards. dunno if it works with your card |
| [14:45:00] | man_in_shack: | laga, well i seem to have a driver for blackbird cards |
| [14:45:00] | laga: | oh,ok. |
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| [14:48:00] | man_in_shack: | ok, when i go to "New capture card" |
| [14:49:00] | man_in_shack: | it says "Standard V4L capture card" |
| [14:49:00] | man_in_shack: | and at the bottom, "Default input" says DVB |
| [14:49:00] | man_in_shack: | something tells me that's what it's supposed to do |
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| [14:51:00] | man_in_shack: | how about someone help me try going through the full set up process? |
| [14:52:00] | laga: | how about reading the docd? |
| [14:52:00] | laga: | docs* |
| [14:52:00] | man_in_shack: | bah |
| [14:52:00] | fatmatt: | man_in_shack: if you don't see a frontend being registered in dmesg then there's not a lot of point in starting to config myth |
| [14:53:00] | man_in_shack: | fatmatt, but i see some v4l stuff |
| [14:53:00] | furfurfur: | hey guys. I can't see anywhere in mythtv-setup to configure DVB EPG listings. It's all XMLTV |
| [14:54:00] | ** man_in_shack is confused ** | |
| [14:54:00] | ** man_in_shack is apt-get installing xmltv now ** | |
| [14:55:00] | fatmatt: | man_in_shack: read the help pages on the dvb modules your selecting and make sure that you've got the dependencies loaded, |
| [14:55:00] | johnp_: | furfurfur, probably means you haven't enabled the oprion |
| [14:56:00] | johnp_: | err option |
| [14:56:00] | man_in_shack: | it's all automagic stuff i thought |
| [14:56:00] | furfurfur: | johnp_: where would it be, assuming I did compile with the right opt? |
| [14:56:00] | johnp_: | furfurfur, channel editor, next to the xmltvid |
| [14:57:00] | ** furfurfur waddles off to look ** | |
| [14:58:00] | fatmatt: | anyway, its late, gnita |
| [14:58:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, 10am. time for bed :) |
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| [14:59:00] | furfurfur: | johnp_: You mean "Use on air guide"? :) |
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| [15:00:00] | man_in_shack: | 8| |
| [15:00:00] | Beirdo: | that sounds like the one :) |
| [15:00:00] | man_in_shack: | why do i have no tv_grab_au? :( |
| [15:00:00] | johnp_: | furfurfur, could be. |
| [15:00:00] | johnp_: | :) |
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| [15:01:00] | furfurfur: | sweet. Will try later. I am sat at work with a DVB card in my hand, and VNC'd to my computer at home configuring mythTV. Doh! |
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| [15:02:00] | Beirdo: | Gah.. get OUTTA my head, Shania |
| [15:02:00] | Beirdo: | dammit |
| [15:03:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [15:03:00] | laga: | just dont listen to the voices |
| [15:03:00] | Beirdo: | time to drown her out |
| [15:03:00] | KaiForce: | you have to think of a different song |
| [15:03:00] | KaiForce: | problem is then that one gets stuck in there |
| [15:04:00] | Beirdo: | nah, just start playing music |
| [15:04:00] | ** Beirdo cues Jamiroquai – Synkronized ** | |
| [15:04:00] | Beirdo: | that should get that song outta my head |
| [15:04:00] | man_in_shack: | :( |
| [15:05:00] | man_in_shack: | this just isn't working |
| [15:05:00] | jhs_s: | Does the "Play VCD" button anything? |
| [15:06:00] | jhs_s: | at least here it does just nothing – no log message – no error message... |
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| [15:09:00] | man_in_shack: | :( |
| [15:09:00] | man_in_shack: | i don't know what to do |
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| [15:16:00] | man_in_shack: | why does right-clicky now not work in my epiphany? 8| |
| [15:17:00] | man_in_shack: | bleh |
| [15:17:00] | man_in_shack: | i'm gonna have to compile a new kernel it seems |
| [15:17:00] | ** man_in_shack cries ** | |
| [15:18:00] | man_in_shack: | http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Kworld_V-St . . . ecifications |
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| [16:37:00] | pridkett: | woohoo, broadcast flag was struck down |
| [16:37:00] | pridkett: | good news for hdtv lovers |
| [16:39:00] | laga: | nice! |
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| [16:42:00] | KaiForce: | The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia said the FCC had "exceeded the scope of its delegated authority" with the 2003 rule |
| [16:43:00] | pridkett: | glad I didn't stock up on HDTV tuner cards like I was going to. Two is pleanty for now. |
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| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | that doesn't mean it's struck down |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | it means it likely will be |
| [16:45:00] | pridkett: | Beirdo: actually, if I'm reading the decision correctly, it's basically final |
| [16:45:00] | pridkett: | the studios will need to go through congress to get the law passed |
| [16:46:00] | pridkett: | the decision ruled that the FCC overstepped its bounds a regulatory agency and that such an action would need to be a legislative act |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | well, we'll see how long it takes for it to get rammed through anyways |
| [16:46:00] | pridkett: | I'm confused about how this remains "likely will be". Am I missing something? |
| [16:47:00] | pridkett: | In any case, it's a reprieve. The good guys are organized on this one, so we've got a faint glimmer of hope. Of course, I thought we were organized for Real ID and bush is gonna sign that. |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | I'll let the EFF lawyers tell me when it's truly over. IANAL |
| [16:48:00] | rjune_: | pridkett: lucky you |
| [16:51:00] | pridkett: | Beirdo: I'd assume that Cory Doctorow (policy advocate for EFF) has talked to them, he's saying we won. I do technology policy, and it looks like we won. I'm not sure about whether or not they can appeal it, I'm just a policy wonk-wannabe |
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| [16:56:00] | man_in_shack: | brb, booting a new kernel |
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| [17:07:00] | man_in_shack: | still no luck here |
| [17:08:00] | CyberKnet: | congrats =) |
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| [17:08:00] | CyberKnet: | and the beagle surfaces. |
| [17:08:00] | CyberKnet: | You, sir, are supposed to be on mars! |
| [17:08:00] | CyberKnet: | Bad beag1e! |
| [17:08:00] | ** CyberKnet reaches for a rolled up newspaper ** | |
| [17:09:00] | CyberKnet: | aaah, and back to the OBEX standard document for me |
| [17:09:00] | man_in_shack: | 8| |
| [17:10:00] | man_in_shack: | this card is supposed to be supported :( |
| [17:10:00] | CyberKnet: | which card? |
| [17:10:00] | man_in_shack: | Kworld V-Stream Xpert DVB-T |
| [17:11:00] | CyberKnet: | aah. no idea at all. |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: tinkering with your car? |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | ARGH |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | bad laga |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | bluetooth = obex. car =obdII or something like that |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | it happens every time |
| [17:12:00] | man_in_shack: | The KWorld/V-Stream card seems to be the similar |
| [17:12:00] | man_in_shack: | (apart from PCI ID) to the DNTV Live! card |
| [17:12:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: heh =) |
| [17:13:00] | hadees: | hey this is alittle off topic but did anyone know that the UI in mozilla applications like firefox, mozilla, and thunderbird were all written in javascript |
| [17:13:00] | hadees: | crazy |
| [17:13:00] | hadees: | well and XUL |
| [17:13:00] | beag1e: | woof! :) |
| [17:15:00] | pridkett: | Beirdo: Wendy Seltzer, one of the EFF lawyers just posted that the broadcast flag was thrown out to the Mythtv-users list. That should be good enough for you right? |
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| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | whatever, I'm not arguing |
| [17:16:00] | pridkett: | Beirdo: I'm not trying to argue. You just said you wanted to hear from an EFF Lawyer, I was just pointing out that an EFF lawyer said something about it. |
| [17:17:00] | pridkett: | No offense meant |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | and yes, I'd take her word on it :) |
| [17:21:00] | man_in_shack: | does anyone have this card? |
| [17:21:00] | ** man_in_shack is sad ** | |
| [17:22:00] | kormoc: | http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns . . . cs-headlines |
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| [17:22:00] | kormoc: | http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns . . . cs-headlines |
| [17:24:00] | laga: | seems like the situation in the USA for HDTV and pvrs is now better than in europe. |
| [17:24:00] | xris: | for now |
| [17:24:00] | laga: | the most popular paytv provider in germany, premiere, will broadcast hdtv in mpeg4 with some heavy drm stuff on it. |
| [17:24:00] | xris: | blech |
| [17:24:00] | laga: | ack |
| [17:25:00] | laga: | mpeg4 = cool. drm = teh suxx. |
| [17:28:00] | xris: | to put it lightly |
| [17:28:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [17:28:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [17:28:00] | ** xris needs a functional mythbox ** | |
| [17:29:00] | laga: | they're going to use h.264 and dvb-s2. |
| [17:29:00] | jhs_s: | laga: I could bet that any drm stuff will somehow be broken if it is closed-up |
| [17:30:00] | jhs_s: | On the other side: Who needs HDTV? I don't have such a big tv! |
| [17:30:00] | laga: | jhs_s: i'd hope so. but that won't be legal. |
| [17:30:00] | laga: | HDTV is the future. |
| [17:31:00] | jhs_s: | laga: They told us 10 years ago that dvb is the future and most cable providers still not have all channels availible... |
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| [17:32:00] | laga: | jhs_s: that's because the providers suck. you can get all channels in DVB over astra. |
| [17:33:00] | jhs_s: | laga: I have no astra... I could get them over good old antenna-tv ;-) |
| [17:33:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [17:33:00] | laga: | dvb-t or ATSC? |
| [17:33:00] | jhs_s: | dvb-t |
| [17:33:00] | laga: | oh, yep. i didnt see that you're from germany. |
| [17:36:00] | GeckoFiend: | jhs_s my TV is only 27 inches... but it's HD |
| [17:37:00] | xris: | too many germans, not enough beer/chocolate. |
| [17:37:00] | Beirdo: | not enough German chicks either :) |
| [17:37:00] | ** xris isn't allowed to respond to that. ** | |
| [17:37:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:37:00] | Beirdo: | sure you are, we won't tell |
| [17:37:00] | laga: | we have a lot of german chicks here. *snicker* |
| [17:38:00] | jhs_s: | GeckFiend: But you cannot tell me that there is much difference between 752x576 and 1920x1024 on an 21 inch tv |
| [17:38:00] | xris: | Beirdo: crazy german chicks: http://www.radnomaden.de/ |
| [17:38:00] | jhs_s: | laga: correct, at least later this night ;-) |
| [17:39:00] | xris: | she's a friend of mine from college. |
| [17:39:00] | laga: | jhs_s: ;) |
| [17:39:00] | laga: | jhs_s: no, i'll be at a friends place, he's having a lan party. there arent many chicks, i bet ;) |
| [17:39:00] | xris: | Beirdo: rode her bike from germany to vietnam |
| [17:39:00] | Beirdo: | WTF? |
| [17:40:00] | Beirdo: | now that IS crazy |
| [17:40:00] | xris: | I told you. |
| [17:40:00] | kormoc: | laga, at our old lan partys, we used to have about a 2/3 female/male ratio |
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| [17:40:00] | laga: | nice |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | playing The Sims? :) |
| [17:41:00] | laga: | were they the usual geek type? vertically challenged etc? ;) |
| [17:41:00] | laga: | Beirdo: rotfl |
| [17:41:00] | kormoc: | 23 males and like 14 females. |
| [17:41:00] | kormoc: | actually, not all of them were. |
| [17:41:00] | laga: | sounds like a good orgy to me |
| [17:41:00] | kormoc: | and the one really hot one could kick anyones ass in ut classic. |
| [17:42:00] | laga: | reminds me of that girl that kicked my ass in counterstrike the first time she played |
| [17:42:00] | laga: | i dont like that game anymore ;) |
| [17:42:00] | kormoc: | nah, Ash just knew the game way way way too well to be healthy :P |
| [17:42:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:43:00] | ** xris wants to go home and finish setting up his mythbox ** | |
| [17:43:00] | kormoc: | http://kormoc.homelinux.org/gallery/PartyAtAshs05/dsc00471 |
| [17:43:00] | kormoc: | The one with the crown thing is Ash |
| [17:43:00] | ** Beirdo wants to go home and rip avidemux to shreds ** | |
| [17:44:00] | ** laga prefers brunettes ** | |
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| [17:45:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:45:00] | ** Beirdo pleads the fifth ** | |
| [17:45:00] | kormoc: | meh, dirty blond is quite nice imho. |
| [17:45:00] | laga: | dirty blond..is dirty. ;) |
| [17:45:00] | kormoc: | and the problem is? :P |
| [17:45:00] | laga: | it looks that way when someone does a mistake when coloring his hairs |
| [17:46:00] | Beirdo: | and laga doesn't like dirty girls? :) |
| [17:46:00] | laga: | Beirdo: err. |
| [17:46:00] | laga: | no. |
| [17:46:00] | kormoc: | there's a ton of naturaly dirty blond folks out there |
| [17:47:00] | ** laga pities kormoc ** | |
| [17:47:00] | ** kormoc raises a eyebrow ** | |
| [17:47:00] | Beirdo: | pity? |
| [17:47:00] | Beirdo: | I don't get it |
| [17:48:00] | Beirdo: | sorry to be a non-typical male, but it's not the color of the hair... it's the personality. |
| [17:48:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:48:00] | CyberKnet: | maybe he thinks that kormoc has dirty blonde hair |
| [17:48:00] | ** kormoc agrees with Beirdo. ** | |
| [17:48:00] | laga: | yep |
| [17:48:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [17:48:00] | LLLyric: | Nah it's the size of the titties! |
| [17:48:00] | kormoc: | I have brownish something |
| [17:48:00] | LLLyric: | Admit it ;) |
| [17:48:00] | CyberKnet: | It's not the color of their hair. It's whether the color of their hairs match. |
| [17:48:00] | laga: | no, i dont think that |
| [17:48:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
| [17:48:00] | laga: | never mind, i was agreeing with beirdo ;) |
| [17:48:00] | kormoc: | it's not quite brown, but rather close |
| [17:48:00] | kormoc: | and a red beird |
| [17:49:00] | kormoc: | *beard |
| [17:49:00] | Beirdo: | the titties will sag over the years, the personality will still be there :) |
| [17:49:00] | xris: | anyone know anything about lcdproc? |
| [17:49:00] | ** Beirdo ain't shallow in that way ** | |
| [17:49:00] | Beirdo: | xris: nope |
| [17:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | The body parts are just the initial attraction. The personality keeps you there |
| [17:49:00] | laga: | Beirdo: in my age, i dont care about sagging titties ;) |
| [17:49:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: Well, you'd like to at least have the titties for a while =P" |
| [17:49:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: ack. that's it |
| [17:49:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:50:00] | Beirdo: | well duh |
| [17:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Of course if it's just shagging, then who cares :) |
| [17:50:00] | CyberKnet: | I mean, if you have the choice between having the fantastic looks and fantastic personality, or cow-ass looks and fantastic personality.... |
| [17:50:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [17:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | CyberKnet: Of course :) |
| [17:50:00] | Beirdo: | ummm, that's not usually the choice |
| [17:50:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: maybe not for you =) |
| [17:51:00] | Beirdo: | fantastic looks and shitty personality tend to coincide more often than we'd like |
| [17:51:00] | ** kormoc thinks CyberKnet is lieing. ** | |
| [17:51:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [17:51:00] | CyberKnet: | they generally do tend to, yes. |
| [17:51:00] | kormoc: | Ash is a Fantastic gal, dirty blond hair or not :P |
| [17:51:00] | Beirdo: | and... looks are subjective anyways |
| [17:51:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:52:00] | kormoc: | you know what Beirdo |
| [17:52:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: Well, I can't speak for everyone, but I believe that my wife is the prettiest girl in the whole wide world =) |
| [17:52:00] | kormoc: | we should be encouraging them to be like, crappy hair color |
| [17:52:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: you'd better... or she'll kill you |
| [17:52:00] | kormoc: | more gals for the rest! |
| [17:52:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: you'd better do that, otherwise...no, i dont want to talk about the consequences ;) |
| [17:52:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: I had soem of the lack of those consequences yesterday morning for breakfast. Very satisfying =) |
| [17:53:00] | Beirdo: | you suck |
| [17:53:00] | laga: | yeah |
| [17:53:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: that's not exactly how it went down... =) |
| [17:53:00] | Beirdo: | huhuh. |
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| [17:53:00] | Beirdo: | he said "went down" |
| [17:53:00] | laga: | where's beavis when you need him. |
| [17:53:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:53:00] | CyberKnet: | aaah yes, and down she did go. |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | silly CyberKnet |
| [17:54:00] | kormoc: | so rather, she sucks? :P |
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| [17:54:00] | ** CyberKnet remembers the channel is logged and google indexes it ** | |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | oooops :) |
| [17:54:00] | CyberKnet: | *grin* |
| [17:54:00] | ** kormoc wanted some blackmail! ** | |
| [17:54:00] | laga: | some black males? |
| [17:54:00] | laga: | umm |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: just send her the URL to today's log |
| [17:54:00] | CyberKnet: | hah |
| [17:55:00] | kormoc: | heh, true enough! |
| [17:55:00] | CyberKnet: | probably be complimented =) |
| [17:55:00] | ** CyberKnet waits for the OBEX spec to finish printing ** | |
| [17:55:00] | CyberKnet: | 95 pages worth |
| [17:55:00] | CyberKnet: | :| |
| [17:55:00] | CyberKnet: | I bet *that* will be simple to implement |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | dead simple |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:56:00] | CyberKnet: | Or I could go look for OpenObex and port it. Hmmm. |
| [17:56:00] | ** CyberKnet weighs the work ** | |
| [17:56:00] | kormoc: | OBEX *myobex=NEW OBEX; return 0; |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: 95 pages? should be about 3 pounds or so |
| [17:57:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: unfortunately. I really didn't want to have to implement OBEX. |
| [17:57:00] | CyberKnet: | It would have been so much easier if someone else would have done it. |
| [17:57:00] | CyberKnet: | Well they did, but it wasn't libre |
| [17:57:00] | CyberKnet: | and... well everyone should have the option of using libre programs. |
| [17:57:00] | ** CyberKnet wants to control his phone syncing ** | |
| [17:58:00] | CyberKnet: | implement OBEX to have custom phone syncing. Isn't that a bit over the top? =) |
| [17:58:00] | CyberKnet: | Oh, and photo syncing |
| [17:58:00] | CyberKnet: | can't forget that. |
| [17:58:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: english needs more words for "free".... |
| [17:58:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: oh? |
| [17:58:00] | xris: | gratis vs libre |
| [17:58:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: free has too many connotations that can be misunderstood. libre is very succinct, and well understood. |
| [17:59:00] | xris: | exactly |
| [17:59:00] | CyberKnet: | too many people equate free with gratis |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | figuring they are synonyms, what do you expect? |
| [17:59:00] | CyberKnet: | "free of constraint" not "free of cost" |
| [17:59:00] | laga: | "open source" is a nice term, too ;) |
| [17:59:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: "open source" is not a nice term |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | sure it is |
| [17:59:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: "open source" is not neccessarily libre |
| [17:59:00] | ** kormoc is free of the constraint of paying said cost! ** | |
| [17:59:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: heh |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | don't make me get the OSS nazis after you |
| [18:00:00] | laga: | hrhr |
| [18:00:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: i so couldnt resist |
| [18:00:00] | CyberKnet: | OSS nazis can come =) |
| [18:01:00] | ** Beirdo frees CyberKnet of the Microsoft hell he's caught in ** | |
| [18:01:00] | CyberKnet: | all libre software = OSS, but not all OSS = libre software. I reserve the right to insist upon libre software to run on Microsoft Windows |
| [18:01:00] | CyberKnet: | =P" |
| [18:01:00] | CyberKnet: | *grin* |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | I reserve the right to call you a silly sheep-fscker too |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:03:00] | CyberKnet: | said right reserved is granted |
| [18:03:00] | CyberKnet: | and just like my reservation, that does not necessarily make it correct =) |
| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [18:06:00] | xris: | finally fixed my pcm volume getting muted at reboot: /sbin/MAKEDEV -d /etc/udev/devices/ sound |
| [18:09:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:09:00] | Beirdo: | good job |
| [18:09:00] | Beirdo: | so there's one ticket left in nuvexport's trac |
| [18:09:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | I went on a ticket-closing bender last night |
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| [18:12:00] | ** xris kicks his internet connection ** | |
| [18:12:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: clear up the one that that guy came in here about yesterday? |
| [18:13:00] | Beirdo: | ? |
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| [18:13:00] | CyberKnet: | erm... was it yesterday or the day before someone came in here needing "urgent" help and you declined informing him you were at work and that he should enter a ticket into trac |
| [18:13:00] | DrKv: | hello |
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| [18:14:00] | mirak: | hi |
| [18:14:00] | DrKv: | i have an error running mythtv (setup) etc. |
| [18:15:00] | DrKv: | Package mythtv-common is not configured yet. |
| [18:15:00] | DrKv: | i can't configure it at all |
| [18:15:00] | DrKv: | i have ubuntu 5.04 |
| [18:15:00] | DrKv: | i' |
| [18:15:00] | DrKv: | i am kinda a linux newbie ... |
| [18:15:00] | DrKv: | any help would be much appreciated |
| [18:16:00] | DrKv: | i've tried to get the info from faqs, but i'm not getting it. i guess |
| [18:17:00] | xris: | DrKv: I'm not a newbie and I gave up on ubuntu last night and went back to fedora |
| [18:17:00] | DrKv: | lol |
| [18:17:00] | mirak: | dumb question, I can't find in wich menu I must se the video device file |
| [18:17:00] | DrKv: | ubuntu seems to work great for me, mostly |
| [18:17:00] | Beirdo: | xris: you didn't give it much of a chance :) |
| [18:17:00] | xris: | but that's mainly unfamiliarity with ubuntu's packages and I needed to get my mythbox back up and running quickly |
| [18:17:00] | DrKv: | maybe it just can't use my tv card |
| [18:18:00] | DrKv: | i am totally cornfused by the whole tv thing |
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| [18:18:00] | kormoc: | mirak, mythsetup is where that is |
| [18:18:00] | kormoc (~kormoc@dsl254-022-032.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net) Quit ("Done with work, yay!") | |
| [18:18:00] | ** Beirdo poked billvortex and xri1 ** | |
| [18:18:00] | xri1: | stupid internet connection |
| [18:18:00] | billvortex is now known as kormoc | |
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| [18:19:00] | DrKv: | i get this error when running mythtv-setup |
| [18:19:00] | DrKv: | Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [18:19:00] | xri1: | ooh, mysql 4.1 went stable |
| [18:19:00] | jspot: | i asked this once before but not luck – does anyone know how to downgrade qt to 3.3.8 when using myth .0.18? I tried the instructions from the archive (apt and rpm -...) but run into package dependency issues. Do i need to downgrade to myth 0.16? |
| [18:20:00] | DrKv: | i made the account for mythtv |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | ?? |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | 3.3.4 is current for qt last I heard |
| [18:20:00] | kormoc: | DrKv, did you set it in the mysql.txt? |
| [18:20:00] | DrKv: | hmmm |
| [18:20:00] | DrKv: | no |
| [18:21:00] | DrKv: | i don't think so .... |
| [18:21:00] | ** DrKv looks for that file ** | |
| [18:21:00] | ** Beirdo pokes xri1 again :) ** | |
| [18:21:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:21:00] | jspot: | ok – does that mean it should work? I am still seeing the ctrl-enter key issues and my remote wonder seems to display the same problems |
| [18:22:00] | DrKv: | i don't have that file |
| [18:22:00] | DrKv: | i think i am WAY off getting this to work |
| [18:22:00] | kormoc: | DrKv, you do indeed, usually it's in /etc/mythtv or somewhere in /usr |
| [18:23:00] | kormoc: | or in /root/.mythtv/ or /home/user/.mythtv |
| [18:23:00] | DrKv: | i did a file search --- all i found was mysql.txt.dist |
| [18:23:00] | jspot: | oh -sorry 3.3.3–8 not 3.3.8 |
| [18:23:00] | kormoc: | DrKv, with locate? |
| [18:23:00] | jspot: | i currently have 3.3.4 |
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| [18:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | jspot: What are trying to gian by changing versions ? |
| [18:23:00] | DrKv: | ok — i see it now |
| [18:23:00] | DrKv: | :) |
| [18:25:00] | DrKv: | it has a password |
| [18:25:00] | jspot: | greyfoxx, the main thing is that my remote wonder hardly works – only the arrow keys work and the ok button works like the ctrl-enter withou the crt (ie i hightlights but doesnt submit) |
| [18:25:00] | jspot: | i am thinking its the qt issue? |
| [18:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | jspot: I doubt it's got anything to do with qt |
| [18:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Using the default ati_remote kernel module ? |
| [18:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | not being able to press the buttone with enter is pretty much *the* symptom of the FC3 Qt problem |
| [18:26:00] | jspot: | hmmm any suggestions for the remote? I followed tim litwiller(?) instructions using lirc, should I try gatos instead? |
| [18:26:00] | DrKv: | do i fix the passwd in the mythtv home folder ? or in my home folder |
| [18:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | GeckoFiend: Maybe, but if he's using the ati_remote kernel modules most of the buttons are not mapped to keys that myth will understand |
| [18:27:00] | GeckoFiend: | when he orgininally reported this he said "it does the same thign as pressing enter. nothing" |
| [18:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ahhh |
| [18:27:00] | jspot: | are you familiar with this? http://www.litwiller.net/mythtv/remote.html |
| [18:28:00] | mirak: | hum |
| [18:28:00] | mirak: | how to get a full display for mythtvfrontend ? |
| [18:28:00] | mirak: | or just a small window |
| [18:28:00] | DrKv: | Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [18:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | jspot: I'm familiar with the remote, but not with using lirc to deal with it. I have a remove that is very similar but I don't use lirc with it. I use a modified gatos/ati_remote driver for mine. |
| [18:29:00] | DrKv: | ?? |
| [18:29:00] | DrKv: | i have no idea |
| [18:29:00] | DrKv: | do i have to be in the mythtv account ? |
| [18:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | jspot: You could very well be running into the bug that Geck mentioned |
| [18:30:00] | jspot: | GreyFoxx:ok i will try that then – did you follow tims instructions for that? |
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| [18:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | jspot: No |
| [18:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | I made my own version of the kernel module and added support to it for my remote |
| [18:30:00] | DrKv: | mythtv-setup: cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
| [18:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | DrKv: Running mythtv-setup as a different user than the one running X ? |
| [18:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Assuming X is running |
| [18:31:00] | DrKv: | yes |
| [18:31:00] | DrKv: | true |
| [18:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | To which question ?:) |
| [18:31:00] | DrKv: | should i log in as mythtv ? |
| [18:31:00] | DrKv: | i did a su to mythtv |
| [18:31:00] | DrKv: | and got that error |
| [18:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | su – mythtv "should work" |
| [18:32:00] | xri1: | DrKv: run setup as root |
| [18:32:00] | xri1: | it's trying to get into mysql and can't |
| [18:32:00] | DrKv: | then i get the 'access denied" |
| [18:32:00] | DrKv: | with root |
| [18:32:00] | mirak: | where is the best place to put the videos records of mythtv ? |
| [18:32:00] | xri1: | you ssh'd in? |
| [18:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | A failure to connect to an X server has nothing to do with mysql, unless you are referring to a different problem xri: |
| [18:33:00] | xri1: | or try `sudo mythtv-setup` |
| [18:33:00] | DrKv: | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
| [18:33:00] | DrKv: | Database error was: |
| [18:33:00] | DrKv: | Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [18:33:00] | DrKv: | couldn't open db |
| [18:33:00] | mirak: | can I put them in /home/mythtv ? |
| [18:33:00] | DrKv: | i haven't a clue |
| [18:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | DrKv: That means it can't find mysql.txt or you have the wrong auth info in it |
| [18:33:00] | DrKv: | ok |
| [18:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | mirak: You can place them anywhere you want |
| [18:33:00] | Beirdo: | there's a database setup script that needs to be run first, no? |
| [18:33:00] | jspot: | GreyFoxx: thx – i guess I will still try his instructions as a start – i just didnt want to go through the whole thing of switching to gatos if the whole thing was qt anyway... |
| [18:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: mc.sql |
| [18:34:00] | xri1: | GreyFoxx: no, it means that he hasn't set up the database at ALL.. there's no mythtv user |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | that's the one |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:34:00] | wsy: | DrKv: there's a short script you have to run to set up the mySQL user "mythtv". Note that the idea of a "mySQL user" and a real user are totally different. |
| [18:34:00] | DrKv: | ok |
| [18:34:00] | DrKv: | where do i run that |
| [18:34:00] | xri1: | that's why you go in as root. |
| [18:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | xri1: The DB access error I agree, but failure to connect to X is not a mysql related problem |
| [18:34:00] | DrKv: | where is the script ? |
| [18:34:00] | wsy: | There's no connect between a "user" in the mySQL subsystem and a "user" as defined in /etc/passwd. |
| [18:34:00] | xri1: | yes, that's true |
| [18:34:00] | DrKv: | i thought i had set it up when i installed mysql |
| [18:34:00] | mirak: | GreyFoxx: the user to wich it belogs depends of the front end or the backend ? |
| [18:35:00] | mirak: | I mean from who launched it |
| [18:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | mirak: It needs to be writable by the backend |
| [18:35:00] | DrKv: | i can run 'mysql' ok |
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| [18:35:00] | wsy: | DrKv: it's a little trickier than that. |
| [18:35:00] | DrKv: | lol |
| [18:36:00] | DrKv: | figgered that |
| [18:36:00] | DrKv: | where is the script located ? |
| [18:36:00] | wsy: | DrKv: Hmmm... I can't remember the name of it. Anybody remember the name of the MySQL script that sets up the database? |
| [18:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | mc.sql |
| [18:36:00] | wsy: | Ah,yes. |
| [18:36:00] | DrKv: | is that in root's stuff ? or my home directory ? or the mythtv directory ? |
| [18:37:00] | wsy: | /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql |
| [18:37:00] | DrKv: | so, run as root ? |
| [18:37:00] | wsy: | Yeah. |
| [18:37:00] | DrKv: | ok |
| [18:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | I only ever install from source, so I get it from there. It will depend on where your distro/packager puts it if you use a package |
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| [18:38:00] | mchou: | you guys hear the news?? Broadcast Flaghas been tossed!! |
| [18:38:00] | DrKv: | i don't have 'database' |
| [18:38:00] | DrKv: | :( |
| [18:38:00] | wsy: | Yeah. |
| [18:38:00] | mchou: | Flag has* |
| [18:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | mchou: For now at least :) |
| [18:39:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: yup. |
| [18:39:00] | DrKv: | nope |
| [18:39:00] | wsy: | DrKv: grab the HOWTO. The initial setups to create the database is in there. |
| [18:39:00] | xri1: | mchou: you already missed the party. |
| [18:39:00] | xri1: | free beers for everyone. |
| [18:39:00] | xri1: | virtual ones, anyway. |
| [18:39:00] | mirak: | how to run the frontend in a full X display ? |
| [18:39:00] | mchou: | at least now we get to write to our representatives :) |
| [18:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | mirak: By default it will be a full screen |
| [18:40:00] | xri1: | yeah |
| [18:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | unless you set it to a window in the setup menus |
| [18:40:00] | mirak: | GreyFoxx: I have it in windowed fullscreen |
| [18:40:00] | mirak: | mmm |
| [18:40:00] | xri1: | mine are already saavy, though. hmm, though one of them is a former RN employee. wonder if she'll side with the media companies. |
| [18:40:00] | mirak: | where is the man ? |
| [18:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | huh? |
| [18:41:00] | mirak: | man mythtv doesn't makes it |
| [18:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | there are no manpages |
| [18:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | unless you count www.mythtv.org |
| [18:41:00] | mirak: | ok |
| [18:41:00] | DrKv: | i don't think i can do this |
| [18:41:00] | DrKv: | it's way too hard for a newbie, i guess |
| [18:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | DrKv: that mc.sql contains exactly this |
| [18:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | CREATE DATABASE mythconverg; |
| [18:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv"; |
| [18:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| [18:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | GRANT CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY |
| [18:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | "mythtv"; |
| [18:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| [18:42:00] | mchou: | Well, it ;ooks like I can cancel my air2pc order :) |
| [18:42:00] | mchou: | looks* |
| [18:42:00] | DrKv: | Greyfox --- i don't have that file at all |
| [18:42:00] | DrKv: | i must have missed a step |
| [18:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | DrKv: You can just use the commands |
| [18:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | you don't need the follow |
| [18:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
| [18:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | file |
| [18:43:00] | DrKv: | do i have to be in mysql ? |
| [18:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | too many conversations at once heh |
| [18:43:00] | DrKv: | lol |
| [18:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [18:43:00] | DrKv: | ok |
| [18:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | mysql -uroot |
| [18:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | you must be the root mysql user |
| [18:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | if that fails you might have to provide a password |
| [18:45:00] | mirak: | ok I run it in a window now |
| [18:45:00] | mirak: | it seems I can't get a full display |
| [18:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | mirak: Did you turn OFF the window display settings? |
| [18:46:00] | mirak: | I am toying with it here |
| [18:46:00] | mirak: | in fact gnome panels are overing the main window |
| [18:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I belive you have to not only turn it off but you have to stop and start myth again for it to take effect |
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| [18:49:00] | DrKv: | ok |
| [18:49:00] | DrKv: | i typed in that stuff |
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| [18:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | And it didn't complain right ? |
| [18:50:00] | DrKv: | not too much :) |
| [18:50:00] | DrKv: | lol |
| [18:50:00] | DrKv: | it only complained about my typing |
| [18:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
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| [18:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | now you should be able to run the setup app |
| [18:51:00] | DrKv: | now ... i should exit mysql and run the setup again ? |
| [18:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | sure |
| [18:51:00] | DrKv: | k |
| [18:51:00] | mirak: | I have a usbgear video capture card |
| [18:51:00] | mirak: | it creates a /dev/video0 |
| [18:51:00] | mirak: | device |
| [18:52:00] | mirak: | what simple soft could I use to see if the video acquisition is working ? |
| [18:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | What kind of video device? A V4L device? |
| [18:52:00] | mirak: | mmm I think yes |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | xawtv maybe |
| [18:53:00] | DrKv: | Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| [18:53:00] | DrKv: | lol |
| [18:53:00] | DrKv: | this is crazy |
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| [18:53:00] | DrKv: | it did go farther, |
| [18:53:00] | DrKv: | but it killed my mouse |
| [18:53:00] | DrKv: | i got into the setup, at least |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | DrKv: Myth disables the mouse |
| [18:53:00] | mirak: | Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/var/cache/mythtv//ringbuf3.nuv |
| [18:53:00] | mirak: | what is it ? |
| [18:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or at least, it hides the mouse and doesn'treact to mouse presses |
| [18:54:00] | DrKv: | hmmmm |
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| [18:54:00] | DrKv: | maybe because i changed the passwds |
| [18:54:00] | DrKv: | argh |
| [18:54:00] | kormoc: | uberbot? |
| [18:54:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [18:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | DrKv: What passwords ? |
| [18:55:00] | Uberbot: | Yes? |
| [18:55:00] | kormoc: | just a odd name |
| [18:55:00] | kormoc: | given you're not a bot. |
| [18:55:00] | Uberbot: | ....<grin> |
| [18:56:00] | Uberbot: | I was going to say the same thing about kormoc.... |
| [18:56:00] | mirak: | "Most V4L apps are compatible with it," |
| [18:57:00] | mirak: | hem |
| [18:57:00] | mirak: | I can't see video |
| [18:57:00] | mirak: | with xawtv |
| [18:57:00] | jhs_s: | mirak: Do you have a mpeg capture card? |
| [18:57:00] | mirak: | no |
| [18:58:00] | mirak: | it's a capture card |
| [18:58:00] | mirak: | usb capture card |
| [18:58:00] | mirak: | http://usbvision.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=documentation |
| [18:58:00] | mirak: | it should work at least for xawtv |
| [18:58:00] | mirak: | it detects it |
| [18:58:00] | mirak: | but no video comes |
| [19:00:00] | jhs_s: | modules is loaded? Any information in /var/log/messages? |
| [19:00:00] | mirak: | module is loaded |
| [19:00:00] | mirak: | I compiled it and laoded it |
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| [19:01:00] | jhs_s: | Are there any messsages (console or log) when you load it? |
| [19:01:00] | mirak: | no it loads fine, the device is created |
| [19:01:00] | kormoc: | correct device? |
| [19:01:00] | kormoc: | correct permissions? |
| [19:02:00] | mirak: | yes |
| [19:02:00] | kormoc: | xawtv spits out anything when you run it? |
| [19:02:00] | mirak: | no |
| [19:02:00] | mirak: | some errors |
| [19:02:00] | mirak: | wait |
| [19:02:00] | mirak: | This is xawtv-3.94, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.10-5–386) |
| [19:02:00] | mirak: | WARNING: v4l-conf is compiled without DGA support. |
| [19:02:00] | mirak: | WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual |
| [19:02:00] | mirak: | configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>") |
| [19:02:00] | mirak: | Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-ledfixed-medium-r-*--39-*-*-*-c-*-*-*" to type FontStruct |
| [19:02:00] | mirak: | v4l: timeout (got SIGALRM), hardware/driver problems? |
| [19:03:00] | DrKv: | hmm |
| [19:03:00] | DrKv: | now i can get into setup |
| [19:03:00] | Tommck: | I guess everyon'e probably been talking about the US Court ruling today? |
| [19:03:00] | Tommck: | " Court Nixes 'Broadcast Flag' " |
| [19:03:00] | DrKv: | but, it kinda stops at the capture card screen |
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| [19:04:00] | mirak: | no |
| [19:04:00] | mirak: | I am not american |
| [19:04:00] | Tommck: | mirak – I'm guessing you're not speaking for the entire channel :) |
| [19:04:00] | kormoc: | so figure out your base framebuffer address |
| [19:04:00] | mirak: | lol |
| [19:05:00] | mirak: | that's what I was wondering |
| [19:05:00] | kormoc: | Tommck, ya, it's been mentioned in ehre quite a bit, tis a good thing |
| [19:05:00] | mirak: | I don't know what it is |
| [19:05:00] | DrKv: | i hit 'FINISH' and it just goes back to the capture card screen |
| [19:05:00] | Tommck: | kormoc – yeah :) |
| [19:05:00] | mirak: | how can I know it ? |
| [19:05:00] | kormoc: | mirak, your driver should be outputting it, so your drive is not quite correct |
| [19:05:00] | jhs_s: | mirak: try v4l-conf as is tells you |
| [19:05:00] | Tommck: | mirak – it's something that the US was trying to do to prevent recording digital TV |
| [19:06:00] | DrKv: | they will have us without shoes, soon |
| [19:06:00] | mirak: | how can you prevent that ? |
| [19:06:00] | Tommck: | :) |
| [19:06:00] | ** jhs_s is glad that he can stream from his dbox without drm ** | |
| [19:06:00] | DrKv: | the whole idea here in US is to make us a 3rd world country |
| [19:06:00] | DrKv: | so, they take away rights, 1 by 1 every day |
| [19:06:00] | mirak: | ouldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual |
| [19:06:00] | Tommck: | mirak – requiring all devices that can receive a digital TV signal to adhere to a standard to prevent recordings outside the device |
| [19:06:00] | mirak: | configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>") |
| [19:07:00] | mirak: | this biting is tail |
| [19:07:00] | Tommck: | and, that would rule out open source anything |
| [19:07:00] | mirak: | ok |
| [19:07:00] | jhs_s: | mirak: well, try to google if someone has the same device |
| [19:07:00] | DrKv: | i hit 'finish' and i can't go any farther |
| [19:08:00] | mirak: | they will also invent the remote with electrified buttons to prevent you from changing channels |
| [19:08:00] | DrKv: | what's next ? |
| [19:08:00] | DrKv: | heh |
| [19:08:00] | jhs_s: | DrKv: You are in mythtv-setup? |
| [19:08:00] | DrKv: | yes |
| [19:08:00] | DrKv: | :) |
| [19:08:00] | DrKv: | actually got this far |
| [19:08:00] | DrKv: | (a miracle) |
| [19:08:00] | jhs_s: | press ESC and you are in the mainmenu |
| [19:09:00] | Tommck: | gotta love the MythTV navigation ;) |
| [19:09:00] | jhs_s: | MythTV is OK, MythWeather keys suck! |
| [19:10:00] | DrKv: | i guess it can't see my card |
| [19:10:00] | DrKv: | i can't do the channel scan at all |
| [19:10:00] | DrKv: | it won't go there |
| [19:10:00] | DrKv: | i have one of those theatre 550 cards |
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| [19:10:00] | DrKv: | i have a feeling there is no driver here |
| [19:11:00] | DrKv: | it's ATI based |
| [19:11:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: you around? |
| [19:11:00] | DrKv: | could that be the problem ? |
| [19:11:00] | jhs_s: | DrKv: Do you have a driver installed? |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | kinda |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | I'm at work |
| [19:11:00] | mchou: | man, I just discovered streamtuner... |
| [19:11:00] | DrKv: | i haven't installed one (but, i'm not sure) |
| [19:11:00] | mchou: | Best thing since sliced bread. |
| [19:12:00] | mirak: | jhs_s: I can't find info |
| [19:12:00] | DrKv: | where would i find a driver for the theater 550 cards ? |
| [19:12:00] | DrKv: | i don't think it's a btxxx |
| [19:12:00] | jhs_s: | DrKv: YOu have to find out which driver belongs to your card (=> Google) and then check if is preinstalled in your distro or not. |
| [19:13:00] | DrKv: | i was afraid of that |
| [19:13:00] | jhs_s: | mirak: Sorry, I cannot help you further, i have no usb-tuner |
| [19:13:00] | DrKv: | i |
| [19:13:00] | DrKv: | am afraid it might be too new to have a driver |
| [19:13:00] | mirak: | it's not a tuner |
| [19:13:00] | mirak: | juste capture :) |
| [19:13:00] | DrKv: | i have a hauppage ordered .... |
| [19:13:00] | DrKv: | and and old bt829 card, which is not supported |
| [19:14:00] | mirak: | i have a bt878 card that is broken |
| [19:15:00] | DrKv: | google comes up short on telling me if there IS a linux driver for my card |
| [19:15:00] | DrKv: | i'm sure ATI doesn't make one |
| [19:16:00] | DrKv: | this is disappointing |
| [19:16:00] | DrKv: | lol |
| [19:16:00] | jhs_s: | DrKv: where? |
| [19:16:00] | DrKv: | ? |
| [19:17:00] | jhs_s: | where does google tell you about a driver? |
| [19:17:00] | DrKv: | it doesn't |
| [19:17:00] | DrKv: | i don't think there IS a linux driver for the theatre |
| [19:17:00] | DrKv: | (my card) |
| [19:17:00] | DrKv: | i don't know what kind of processor it is ... |
| [19:18:00] | DrKv: | just an ATI |
| [19:18:00] | DrKv: | 'theater" |
| [19:18:00] | DrKv: | actually, theater 550 |
| [19:18:00] | jhs_s: | DrKv: You might have a look at the chip but I don't think there is a linux driver |
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| [19:20:00] | ** jhs_s has finally installed all nuv2disc requirements... ** | |
| [19:21:00] | DrKv: | maybe i have to wait for my hauppage to be delivered |
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| [19:22:00] | man_in_shack: | the latest v4l snapshot has cx88-dvb.c |
| [19:23:00] | ** tritium hopes Beirdo is not a weirdo ** | |
| [19:23:00] | man_in_shack: | but make && make install ends up giving me symbol errors when i try modprobing it |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:23:00] | man_in_shack: | anyone know how to fix it? |
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| [19:26:00] | mirak: | I don't have a /dev/fb0 device |
| [19:26:00] | mirak: | how to get one ? |
| [19:28:00] | DrKv: | i can't tell if my box has video4linux or not |
| [19:28:00] | jhs_s: | man_in_shack: Usually kernel-source vs. kernel mismath |
| [19:28:00] | DrKv: | where could i find out ? |
| [19:28:00] | DrKv: | it's debian (ubuntu) |
| [19:28:00] | man_in_shack: | jhs_s, it's using the correct kernel source |
| [19:29:00] | jhs_s: | DrKv: It usually has if you haven't changed that |
| [19:29:00] | DrKv: | so, is that the card driver ? |
| [19:29:00] | DrKv: | i know how to do this in windows .... lol |
| [19:30:00] | DrKv: | haven't a clue in linux |
| [19:30:00] | jhs_s: | DrKv: v4l is should the subsystem and there are drivers for each card. Think of v4l simular to "Video for Windows" |
| [19:30:00] | jhs_s: | .."is just" not "is should" |
| [19:31:00] | jhs_s: | man_in_shack: Any messages where you could find out where the symbols are missing? |
| [19:31:00] | DrKv: | how can i tell if i have a driver installed ? |
| [19:31:00] | jhs_s: | locate bttv |
| [19:31:00] | DrKv: | would it be in 'hardware' info or something ? |
| [19:33:00] | CyberKnet: | aha. bsd licensed obex library written for .NET framework =)) |
| [19:33:00] | jhs_s: | DrKv: But bttv is just a driver for rather old hauppauge cards and not for you ATI |
| [19:34:00] | DrKv: | in my 'devices' my card is 'unknown' |
| [19:34:00] | DrKv: | it only knows it is an ATI product |
| [19:34:00] | man_in_shack: | jhs_s, it says it's conflicting with other thigns |
| [19:35:00] | jhs_s: | man_in_shack: Maybe you get more on a v4l-list |
| [19:35:00] | jhs_s: | +more help |
| [19:35:00] | man_in_shack: | i'm trying something else |
| [19:36:00] | DrKv: | thanks for the help |
| [19:36:00] | DrKv: | i'm sure when the hauppage comes it will work |
| [19:36:00] | DrKv: | :) |
| [19:36:00] | DrKv: | i wish i hadn't got this card :( |
| [19:37:00] | jhs_s: | what hauppauge will you get? |
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| [19:38:00] | jhs_s: | Anyone around here who managed to play VCD with mythtv? |
| [19:39:00] | man_in_shack: | now what i don't get is why cx88-dvb.c isn't getting compiled |
| [19:39:00] | DrKv: | i think it is pvr 250 |
| [19:39:00] | man_in_shack: | it's there |
| [19:39:00] | DrKv: | i think that is the name |
| [19:39:00] | ** man_in_shack is rebuilding his kernel modules ** | |
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| [19:42:00] | jhs_s: | DrKv: Yes there is a driver: www.ivtv.tv or ivtv.sf.net, good luck it's a bit complicated but works here. |
| [19:42:00] | DrKv: | or hauppage ? or my theater card |
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| [19:42:00] | man_in_shack: | i think i found out what the problem is |
| [19:42:00] | Glove93: | hello |
| [19:42:00] | man_in_shack: | it's certainly A problem |
| [19:42:00] | man_in_shack: | afaik |
| [19:42:00] | man_in_shack: | could someone tell me why drivers/media/video/cx88-dvb.c gets ignored in 2.6.11.8? |
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| [19:43:00] | jhs_s: | man_in_shack: Should be build if you have configured in with make menuconfig. |
| [19:43:00] | j-rod: | just in case nobody has already posted this all over the place... |
| [19:43:00] | j-rod: | http://news.com.com/Court+says+FCCs+broadcast . . . 5697719.html |
| [19:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | man_in_shack: Cause you don't have CX88 enabled in your kernel config? |
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| [19:44:00] | man_in_shack: | GreyFoxx, sure i do |
| [19:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | man_in_shack: grep your .config file for CONFIG_VIDEO_CX88 |
| [19:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | see what it shows |
| [19:44:00] | Glove93: | I have a quick question: is there a way to select the audio mode (i.e. STEREO/LANG1/LANG2) for a recording in MythTV? |
| [19:45:00] | man_in_shack: | GreyFoxx, it shows =m |
| [19:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | man_in_shack: and you are doing a make modules ? |
| [19:45:00] | man_in_shack: | GreyFoxx, yes |
| [19:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | "make modules" |
| [19:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | That should just about do it |
| [19:45:00] | Glove93: | I found how to do it with the ivtvctl tool (I have a PVR-350), but was wondering about how to set it per-recording... |
| [19:45:00] | man_in_shack: | all the other cx88's get compiled |
| [19:45:00] | man_in_shack: | cx88-dvb.c gets ignored |
| [19:47:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: do you have CONFIG_VIDEO_CX88_DVB enabled? |
| [19:47:00] | DrKv: | thanks fer the help ... i'll come back when the haupage arrives :) |
| [19:47:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, it doesn't show up. there's no option in menuconfig to enable it |
| [19:47:00] | jhs_s: | Glove93: I you just want to view it with mythtv you can uses selective mute (it's called somethings like that) |
| [19:48:00] | jhs_s: | This will mute one channel/language |
| [19:49:00] | DrKv: | l8rz everyone, and thanks :) |
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| [19:52:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: there is, if you select Conexant 2388x first |
| [19:53:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: after you select that, "DVB Support for cx2388x based TV cards" appears to me in menuconfig |
| [19:53:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, don't work for me |
| [19:54:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: enable "DVB For Linux" too, first :) |
| [19:54:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: (one menu up, "Digital Video Boradcasting Devices", one down) |
| [19:55:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: then when you return, the DVB option appears for cx2388x |
| [19:55:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, i've got as far as enabling cx2388x |
| [19:55:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, i got that far hours ago |
| [19:55:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, i don't see an option for dvb anywhere |
| [19:56:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: ok, from the "Multimedia Devices" menu, go into "Digital Video Broadcasting Devices" |
| [19:56:00] | man_in_shack: | ok |
| [19:56:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: and enable "DVB For Linux" |
| [19:56:00] | man_in_shack: | it's already enabled |
| [19:57:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: as well as "DVB Core Support" |
| [19:57:00] | man_in_shack: | which is marked as compile-in |
| [19:57:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: then go one up and back to "Video for Linux |
| [19:57:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, i've been through all that |
| [19:57:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: well it enables it for me |
| [19:58:00] | man_in_shack: | maybe i got a borked copy 8| |
| [19:58:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: with a 2.6.11.8 |
| [19:58:00] | man_in_shack: | i downloaded from kernel.org |
| [20:00:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: any difference if you select "DVB Core Support" as Module <M> instead of compiled in? |
| [20:01:00] | man_in_shack: | none at all |
| [20:01:00] | man_in_shack: | i've tried all combinations of M and * and nothing changes |
| [20:01:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, did you download the full tarball or a patch? |
| [20:02:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: patch |
| [20:02:00] | mirak: | WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual |
| [20:02:00] | mirak: | configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>") |
| [20:02:00] | mirak: | help |
| [20:02:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, i got the full tarball. maybe that's what's going wrong |
| [20:03:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: that does not make any sense, there should be no difference |
| [20:03:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, i realise that |
| [20:03:00] | Glove93: | ah hold on a sec |
| [20:03:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, but when you run out of reasonable explanations you have to go for unreasonable |
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| [20:04:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: in the "Code maturity level options", do you have "Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers " enabled? |
| [20:05:00] | man_in_shack: | hmm |
| [20:05:00] | man_in_shack: | yes |
| [20:06:00] | man_in_shack: | but i also had "select only drivers expected to compile cleanly" |
| [20:06:00] | man_in_shack: | i'm gonna go check now |
| [20:06:00] | Glove93: | yes |
| [20:06:00] | Glove93: | that should be the problem |
| [20:06:00] | Glove93: | 'cause VIDEO_CX88_DVB |
| [20:06:00] | Glove93: | depends on BROKEN :) |
| [20:07:00] | man_in_shack: | that was it! |
| [20:07:00] | man_in_shack: | hehe :D |
| [20:07:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, ty |
| [20:07:00] | Glove93: | (cf .../drivers/media/video/Kconfig :) ) |
| [20:07:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: welcome! |
| [20:07:00] | man_in_shack: | now i just hope it compiles 8) |
| [20:07:00] | Glove93: | hehe :) |
| [20:07:00] | Glove93: | that might be a whole new can of worms ;) |
| [20:08:00] | man_in_shack: | yep |
| [20:08:00] | Glove93: | ok, anyone got an answer for me? :) |
| [20:08:00] | Glove93: | (regarding LANG1/LANG2) |
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| [20:09:00] | Glove93: | the "selective mute" is a good point, but I'd like to do that at recording time |
| [20:10:00] | man_in_shack: | if this compiles, you are god ;) |
| [20:10:00] | Glove93: | haha :) |
| [20:12:00] | man_in_shack: | it's up to drivers now |
| [20:12:00] | Glove93: | ... |
| [20:13:00] | Glove93: | are you in australia btw? |
| [20:14:00] | man_in_shack: | ide |
| [20:14:00] | man_in_shack: | yes |
| [20:14:00] | Glove93: | cool |
| [20:14:00] | man_in_shack: | i should be sleeping about 4hrs ago |
| [20:14:00] | Glove93: | I was going to say! :) |
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| [20:14:00] | man_in_shack: | hehe |
| [20:15:00] | man_in_shack: | it broke |
| [20:16:00] | Glove93: | argh! |
| [20:16:00] | omh: | any of you know LIRC? |
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| [20:16:00] | Glove93: | omh: try us :) |
| [20:17:00] | man_in_shack: | PLLTYPE_DTT7595, PLLTYPE_DTT7592, PLLTYPE_DTT7579 undefined in hauppage_eeprom_dvb in cx88-cards.c |
| [20:18:00] | man_in_shack: | i'm hoping i can fix that easily 8) |
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| [20:18:00] | omh: | Glove93, is it possible to have certain keys "outside" a mode, so that it's possible to use the buttons no matter what mode you're in? |
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| [20:20:00] | Glove93: | omh: ah, sorry that's more in-depth LIRC knowledge than I have :( |
| [20:20:00] | omh: | Glove93, np :) |
| [20:21:00] | furfurfur: | can anyone help? I am using DVB-S. I can use szap to tune and get a lock, but can't do anything with it using dvb-mpegtools |
| [20:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | I am beginning to wonder about the key bindings and LIRC too |
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| [20:22:00] | [Klatuu]: | omh: what particular function are you looking for? |
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| [20:23:00] | omh: | [Klatuu], I'm trying to use certain keys on the remote control to control the volume globally, through a command line util, no matter what LIRC-mode I'm in (XMMS, xine or similar) |
| [20:24:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: you probably got it already, but just in case: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/3/4/42 |
| [20:25:00] | man_in_shack: | lol |
| [20:25:00] | man_in_shack: | i like the |
| [20:25:00] | man_in_shack: | +#define PLLTYPE_DTT7592 1 |
| [20:25:00] | man_in_shack: | +#define PLLTYPE_DTT7595 2 |
| [20:25:00] | man_in_shack: | +#define PLLTYPE_DTT7579 3 |
| [20:26:00] | man_in_shack: | that would certainly help |
| [20:28:00] | man_in_shack: | patch applied |
| [20:29:00] | man_in_shack: | ok |
| [20:29:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, now it got very slightly further |
| [20:29:00] | man_in_shack: | drivers/media/video/cx88/cx88-dvb.c:225: error: too few arguments to function `videobuf_dvb_register' |
| [20:29:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: The bug I reported on trac yesterday is fixed (thanks for that!), but the error message still appears, atm. (just FYI) |
| [20:30:00] | Beirdo: | what error message? |
| [20:30:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: The "Use of uninitialized value..."-lines (see my report). |
| [20:30:00] | Beirdo: | they should be gone |
| [20:31:00] | laga: | yay. beer. |
| [20:31:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: You're right, sorry. These are other messages, reporting for "shared_utils.pm line 195, <STDIN> line 10.". |
| [20:31:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: it never stops does it! :) |
| [20:31:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:31:00] | Beirdo: | that would be something else then :) |
| [20:31:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, apparently there'll be working patches in 2.6.12 |
| [20:32:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: Is that enough information for you? Or shall I put it on trac as well? |
| [20:32:00] | Beirdo: | put it there, I'll try to look at it tonight |
| [20:32:00] | Beirdo: | if xris doesn't beat me to it :) |
| [20:33:00] | Beirdo: | xri1: fix yer nick already :) |
| [20:33:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: argh, so it's not so trivial? |
| [20:33:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, this one's probably a lot wider ranginge |
| [20:33:00] | xri1: | brb |
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| [20:34:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [20:34:00] | xris: | sorry, didn't notice |
| [20:34:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, i can hold out till 2.6.12 is released and try it then. if it don't work, i'll be *REALLY* annoyed |
| [20:34:00] | man_in_shack: | hopefully i won't have to wait long |
| [20:35:00] | man_in_shack: | cos this card only works under win2k or xp, which i don't have or want. linux is my only hope 8) |
| [20:35:00] | Glove93: | hehe I understand :) |
| [20:35:00] | furfurfur: | can anyone help me out? problem with dvb. Anyone know about dvb-mpegtools ts2ps and all that? |
| [20:35:00] | man_in_shack: | Glove93, thanks for all your help |
| [20:35:00] | man_in_shack: | it don't work, but at least i know WHY it don't work now |
| [20:36:00] | Glove93: | man_in_shack: you're welcome, hope 2.6.12 comes around soon :) |
| [20:36:00] | man_in_shack: | thanks |
| [20:36:00] | Glove93: | furfurfur: sorry, I am in analog-cable-land ;( |
| [20:37:00] | furfurfur: | wish I was there at the moment too, lol |
| [20:37:00] | Glove93: | hahah |
| [20:42:00] | Glove93: | ok, time to go, good evening everyone |
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| [20:50:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: My actual idea of that "MPEG2-MPEG2 without cutlist"-proposal was to integrate nuv2avi into nuvexport. Possible? :) |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | eventually |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | but that has nothing to do with MPEG2 whatsoever |
| [20:51:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: After second thoughts...sure. ;) |
| [20:53:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: Anyways, it would be neat if nuv/sql-exporting would also be possible without any .txt and .sql, but only "$TITLE – $SUBTITLE.(nuv|mpg)" (<-- depending on the type of recording). |
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| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | why bother? |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | don't you know how to use cp? |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | and there's a contrib script that comes with myth that will make symlinks (I think) like that already |
| [20:55:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: Actually, it is cp (resp. mv), yes. nuvexport would just serve the nice dialog, since its some work to find the correct .nuv-file in the recordings-dir manually. |
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| [20:57:00] | Chacabaou: | Beirdo: Mmh, you're right. But IMHO, it's a good feature to be integrated into nuvexport. Personally, I would like it much more than already do, then. ;) |
| [20:58:00] | ** CyberKnet wrote a script to do symlinks despite there being a script in contrib ** | |
| [20:58:00] | CyberKnet: | wanted a little more control. |
| [20:58:00] | CyberKnet: | wrote it in perl |
| [20:58:00] | Chacabaou: | CyberKnet: Is it a WFM? |
| [20:58:00] | CyberKnet: | WFM? |
| [20:59:00] | Chacabaou: | works for me |
| [20:59:00] | CyberKnet: | err... it does work for me. |
| [20:59:00] | ** CyberKnet hunts for the script ** | |
| [20:59:00] | Chacabaou: | CyberKnet: Sure...but would it be useful for others, too? |
| [21:01:00] | CyberKnet: | probably |
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| [21:02:00] | Chacabaou: | Err...general question: Can I transcode a recording (with the buildt-in transcoder), create another cutlist and transcode it again? Would the second transcoding be lossless compared to the already transcoded version? |
| [21:02:00] | CyberKnet: | Chacabaou: I'd be happy to put the source of the perl script into a pastebin somewhere if you want it |
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| [21:04:00] | emes: | 0.18 completely freezes X after it does the font resizing, any ideas? |
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| [21:13:00] | CyberKnet: | *yawn* |
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| [21:18:00] | Chacabaou: | CyberKnet: Are dots intentionally stripped out of the title? In which way would dots be problematic? |
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| [21:23:00] | galrog: | will mythTV support dual processors |
| [21:23:00] | CyberKnet: | Chacabaou: they were for me. |
| [21:23:00] | CyberKnet: | Chacabaou: if your needs are different then feel free to modify it |
| [21:23:00] | CyberKnet: | galrog: that's a loaded question |
| [21:23:00] | galrog: | is a dual PIII-733 enough to simultaneously record and watch with no trouble or lag |
| [21:24:00] | CyberKnet: | galrog: it was for me |
| [21:24:00] | wsy: | galrog: might be a little tight.... |
| [21:24:00] | CyberKnet: | galrog: the only times I had trouble was when recording, playing back and also having a recording flagging commercials at the same time... then it would get a bit jumpy. |
| [21:24:00] | CyberKnet: | I had a dual PIII 733 |
| [21:24:00] | CyberKnet: | Dell Optiplex, actually. |
| [21:24:00] | Chacabaou: | CyberKnet: What problems did they cause, exactly? |
| [21:25:00] | galrog: | I have an HP workstation lying around |
| [21:25:00] | CyberKnet: | Chacabaou: none. I just didn't want them. |
| [21:25:00] | CyberKnet: | Chacabaou: it's removing anything not alphanumeric or a space. |
| [21:25:00] | CyberKnet: | galrog: try it and see |
| [21:26:00] | CyberKnet: | Chacabaou: that is to say, it is ensuring that the symlink only has letters, numbers and spaces |
| [21:26:00] | CyberKnet: | Chacabaou: you could easily add a period into line 32 |
| [21:26:00] | galrog: | CyberKnet: my linux skills are very very basic .. so when I run into trouble im drowning ... so i want to try to minimize the problems ... |
| [21:26:00] | Chacabaou: | CyberKnet: So it was just a matter of personal taste? |
| [21:26:00] | CyberKnet: | change $title =~ s/[^0–9,a-z,A-Z,\ ]//g; into $title =~ s/[^0–9,a-z,A-Z,\ ,\.]//g; |
| [21:26:00] | CyberKnet: | Chacabaou: yes |
| [21:27:00] | galrog: | CyberKnet: do you think i should practice with linuxfromscratch or something b4 i get started ? |
| [21:27:00] | CyberKnet: | galrog: I used RedHat 9.0 on that machine with MythTV |
| [21:27:00] | Chacabaou: | CyberKnet: I already did, but only wanted to make sure that I wont run into problems I don't expect. ;) |
| [21:27:00] | CyberKnet: | galrog: in my experience, LFS helps, but is not necessary |
| [21:27:00] | CyberKnet: | Chacabaou: cheers =) |
| [21:28:00] | CyberKnet: | Chacabaou: it's a tight little script. |
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| [21:28:00] | galrog: | Cybernet: would you say its pretty user-friendly for newbies ? |
| [21:28:00] | CyberKnet: | galrog: MythTV or LFS? |
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| [21:29:00] | rjune: | certainly not LFS |
| [21:29:00] | CyberKnet: | rjune: that's what I was thinking =) |
| [21:29:00] | galrog: | Cyberknet: MythTV |
| [21:29:00] | CyberKnet: | mythtv is pretty friendly to new users once it is set up |
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| [21:30:00] | rjune: | some bizzarreness, but overall not bad |
| [21:30:00] | CyberKnet: | galrog: if you are unsure about getting it set up, might I suggest that Fedora Core has a great guide written for it by Jarod Wilson. In my opinion, it is second to none |
| [21:30:00] | rjune: | IMDB lookup is cool, but not so useful for TV series |
| [21:30:00] | galrog: | Cyberknet: thanks |
| [21:30:00] | CyberKnet: | galrog: You are welcome. |
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| [21:32:00] | rjune: | if I have a TV Tuner card, say Avermedia something or toher(it's bt787 based IIRC) |
| [21:32:00] | rjune: | and I want to record a live show, do I have to plug the audio out on the tv tune to audio in on the sound card? |
| [21:32:00] | rjune: | or should it record to hard drive, then play the recording? |
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| [21:33:00] | CyberKnet: | rjune: I don't know for that card, sorry. |
| [21:33:00] | CyberKnet: | for my AVerMedia m179 I don't, but it is essentially a PVR-250 |
| [21:33:00] | rjune: | without the cable, we're not hearing any sound, but with it, we hear a double echo |
| [21:34:00] | CyberKnet: | mute line in |
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| [21:35:00] | rjune: | I'll have to try that |
| [21:35:00] | rjune: | if that kills all audio though? |
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| [22:04:00] | mofu: | what's up with Zap2It Listings, I'm showing everything an hour early in my schedule |
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| [22:12:00] | GeckoFiend: | weee new screenshots: http://lxmsuite.com/themes.htm |
| [22:14:00] | mofu: | is there a time zone/daylight savings switch someplace? |
| [22:14:00] | kormoc: | mofu, is your timezone set correctly? |
| [22:14:00] | kormoc: | mofu, is your qt updated bast the timezone bug? |
| [22:16:00] | mofu: | kormoc, tz is correct, it might be QT bug, I updated last weekend before going out of town for a week |
| [22:16:00] | mofu: | what version of qt do I need to be past the bug? |
| [22:17:00] | kormoc: | not sure |
| [22:17:00] | kormoc: | it was patched via gentoo's tree for myself. |
| [22:19:00] | mofu: | whole fucking week of recording shot to hell |
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| [22:27:00] | rjune: | mofu: ? |
| [22:27:00] | mofu: | rjune: ? |
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| [22:34:00] | mofu: | rjune: did you have any words of advice? |
| [22:35:00] | rjune: | other then change the time of your machine? nope. |
| [22:35:00] | stoffel: | PoOr MUG? nice! |
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| [23:04:00] | Toast: | hauppauge |
| [23:04:00] | Toast: | Please excuse me... paste on this client is a little more kean than I expected |
| [23:04:00] | Tommck: | Hello all.. I have been a bit out of the loop for a while and was hoping someone could give me an idea of the stability of MythTV running with pcHDTV 3000 cards and ivtv lately... any weird bugs or is the current code pretty stable? I was going to upgrade due to some weirdness with 0-length recordings |
| [23:07:00] | Tommck: | ok.. guess I'll dig through more emails looking for people having issues then |
| [23:09:00] | Toast: | Hi, I'm attempting to get a hauppauge wintv nova-t working on a KnoppMyth distribution. After entering all appropriate channel frequencies and scanning for channels, I only get "Error tuning to transport". Does anyone have any experence of the minimum required signal strength to get a lock on a transport? I get about 17% when tuned in correctly. Is that enough? |
| [23:10:00] | xris: | GeckoFiend: you know if anyone has signed up for lxmsuite.com yet? |
| [23:12:00] | mofu: | Toast: I'm guessing NO, sounds like you need to re-aiim your dish |
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| [23:15:00] | mshields: | how do i make mythtv stop going into screensave at the menus |
| [23:15:00] | Tommck: | mshields – turn off your screensaver |
| [23:15:00] | mshields: | it is off |
| [23:15:00] | mshields: | i'm not running anything but X, irxevent, and mythfrontend |
| [23:15:00] | Toast: | mofu: Thanks. The same setup with the same card worked under windows though. |
| [23:15:00] | mshields: | well and xset s off |
| [23:15:00] | kormoc: | mshields, turn off x power management |
| [23:16:00] | Toast: | Well, I have been looking for an excuse to put my new aerial up. This look like it. |
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| [23:33:00] | j-rod: | GeckoFiend, are you the one doing the artwork on the new themes? I'm liking *most* of Syth... |
| [23:34:00] | j-rod: | the highlighted program title in the recordings browser is better than pretty much anything else I've seen in Myth. :) |
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| [23:36:00] | jams: | j-rod, it's a professional graphic artist |
| [23:36:00] | j-rod: | cool |
| [23:37:00] | j-rod: | my only complaint is that on the main menus, the non-selected items blend into the background a little too much |
| [23:38:00] | jams: | are you on a tv or monitor? |
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| [23:39:00] | j-rod: | looking at the screen shots on an LCD monitor |
| [23:40:00] | jams: | gotcha |
| [23:41:00] | xris: | j-rod: I gave up on ubuntu for myth. |
| [23:41:00] | j-rod: | oh? |
| [23:41:00] | jams: | I beleive it was mentioned that it's not as dark on a tv |
| [23:41:00] | j-rod: | not so smooth? |
| [23:41:00] | xris: | too much new stuff too fast. |
| [23:41:00] | j-rod: | heh |
| [23:41:00] | xris: | packages are all named differently (linux-image for kernel, etc), and I couldn't even get the manually-compiled ivtv drivers to install to the proper directory. |
| [23:41:00] | j-rod: | jams, aha, just read the note |
| [23:42:00] | j-rod: | heh, yeah, there's a few things to work around |
| [23:42:00] | j-rod: | I think I ended up just editing /usr/src/linux-kernel-headers/Makefile to append the right EXTRAVERSION to get ivtv drivers to go to the right place |
| [23:43:00] | j-rod: | (the main box I'm doing ivtv hacking on runs Ubu) |
| [23:43:00] | xris: | ah |
| [23:43:00] | j-rod: | that linux-image one had me slightly baffled for a bit too |
| [23:44:00] | xris: | well, I started thinking about the dvb stuff, etc. and it was almost 1 AM and I needed sleep, and then I just gave up and installed fc3. |
| [23:44:00] | j-rod: | lol |
| [23:44:00] | xris: | so I should have things up and running tonight, I hope. |
| [23:44:00] | xris: | maybe if you write a mythtv guide for ubu, I'll switch then. heh. |
| [23:45:00] | j-rod: | I used make_kpkg (iirc) to build a dvb-equipped kernel installable via dpkg, worked pretty well |
| [23:45:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [23:45:00] | xris: | for now, I'll wait until I have a less mission-critical box |
| [23:45:00] | xris: | ah. no separate kernel-module packages, then? |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | not for most stuff |
| [23:46:00] | xris: | ah |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | I haven't dug into how the nvidia stuff works |
| [23:46:00] | xris: | ah |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | but there's a way to get nvidia kernel modules on there... |
| [23:46:00] | xris: | btw, how was the trip? |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | not too shabby |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | not knock-em-out, I-know-I-nailed-it |
| [23:47:00] | j-rod: | but I feel pretty good about how it went |
| [23:47:00] | xris: | cool |
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| [23:47:00] | j-rod: | should hear something in a week and a half or two |
| [23:47:00] | j-rod: | rather involved process... |
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| [23:51:00] | xris: | cool |
| [23:52:00] | xris: | and you'd move up to bellingham? |
| [23:54:00] | pookSter: | Goodevening everyone |
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| [23:55:00] | pookSter: | Did Myth users here the good news today? |
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| [23:57:00] | leftyfb: | ok, i searched the maiing list and docs ... is it possible to play music that located on a usb storage device with myth? I have it mounted in /mnt/media/Music/ but it doesn't fine the music in it |
| [23:57:00] | leftyfb: | perms are set properly |
| [23:57:00] | leftyfb: | the user running myth can read the files just fine .. just myth doesn't find them |
| [23:58:00] | Tommck: | pookSter – yeah |
| [23:59:00] | loudawg: | leftyfb: have you added the path in your music settings? |
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