| Saturday, April 30th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | CygnusX1: | I liked the one where they predicted where bank robbers would strike again and where a kid discovered a fatal flaaw in a fancy high rise. |
| [00:00:00] | CygnusX1: | mchou, personally, I like the show...I just can't fathom the general public being too excited about it. |
| [00:01:00] | mchou: | They said the show has higher ratings than L&O...... |
| [00:01:00] | mchou: | which really surprised me. |
| [00:01:00] | CygnusX1: | Really?? |
| [00:01:00] | mchou: | yup. That's what they said. |
| [00:02:00] | CygnusX1: | That is because no one can figure out which of the forty timeslots L&O is on each week contains the new episode. :-) |
| [00:02:00] | mchou: | which is why I'm asking here :) |
| [00:02:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: that's why myth is around :) |
| [00:02:00] | CygnusX1: | Hmmmm....my wife says she likes it better than Kojak. |
| [00:02:00] | mchou: | what, L&O or numbers? |
| [00:02:00] | CygnusX1: | I didn't like the first Kojak...too much weird camera action...but the rest have been good. |
| [00:03:00] | CygnusX1: | Numb3rs |
| [00:03:00] | mchou: | CygnusX1: you're really showing your age :) |
| [00:03:00] | mchou: | lol, Kojak. |
| [00:03:00] | clintar: | maybe after they watch numb3rs, they will be smart enough to calculate which timeslot has the new l&o and then numb3rs will lose viewers |
| [00:03:00] | CygnusX1: | heh heh. I recall watching the original Kojak in grade school...good times! |
| [00:03:00] | mchou: | clintar: lol :) |
| [00:04:00] | CygnusX1: | tlol clintar |
| [00:04:00] | CygnusX1: | I am starting to feel like my brother in law. He has had a PVR for years. |
| [00:05:00] | CygnusX1: | theh heh. five VCRs running round the clock...he is more video tapes than a BB did before DVDs came out. When the end comes, I am taking the generator to his house. |
| [00:06:00] | Mrgoose: | CygnusX1: why did he have 5 vcr's running |
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| [00:08:00] | CygnusX1: | Mrgoose, He records too much stuff! I have watched Star Trek, X-Files, and SG-1 past few years. Just started on CSI:LV and Seinfeld. He watches all of that, Buffy, Survivor, Lost, and on and on. (Well, he records them anyhow) |
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| [00:11:00] | corpix_: | hi |
| [00:12:00] | corpix_: | what dvb cards do you recommend ? |
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| [00:13:00] | pce-matty: | corpix: hi, that's a pretty open question... for starters it'd be helpful to know what country you're in |
| [00:13:00] | corpix_: | germany |
| [00:13:00] | corpix_: | dvb-s needed |
| [00:14:00] | pce-matty: | digital tv standards differ country to country – here in australia we're 'blessed' with much higher standard res than many other places |
| [00:14:00] | j3_: | Huappauge Nova cards reportedly work quite well, one of their own employees wrote a bulk of the DVB support for them. |
| [00:14:00] | corpix_: | plus i dont want to have to patch the kernel all the time .. |
| [00:14:00] | corpix_: | j3_: too expensive |
| [00:15:00] | j3_: | ah |
| [00:15:00] | pce-matty: | corpix: patch the kernel? unlikely to be necessary. Rebuilding the entire damn thing once will be enough |
| [00:15:00] | j3_: | I'm out of ideas then, I live in the US. :) |
| [00:15:00] | j3_: | And its time for me to hit the road... |
| [00:15:00] | corpix_: | i heard about dvb cards having much cpu load on "playing" |
| [00:16:00] | j3_: | catch you all later |
| [00:16:00] | pce-matty: | corpix: if you get a budget card, then you get a card that does next to none of its own processing |
| [00:16:00] | pce-matty: | j3_: have fun |
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| [00:17:00] | pce-matty: | corpix: something has to do the work, your cpu will pick up the slack, or, if you put your mind to it, you can get say an Nvidia card to do the motion compensation |
| [00:18:00] | pce-matty: | corpix: but yah, ye gets what ye pays for – there's a reason the hauppauge cards are more expensive... |
| [00:18:00] | corpix_: | pce-matty: yeah – the name ;) |
| [00:18:00] | pce-matty: | corpix_: no, the builtin mpeg processing |
| [00:19:00] | corpix_: | what about a telesat skystar2 ? |
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| [00:21:00] | pce-matty: | corpix_: well a quick google throws up quite a few people using them with mythtv |
| [00:22:00] | corpix_: | hmm, a hauppage nova-s is okay ? |
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| [00:39:00] | blahbleorg: | Hi all |
| [00:41:00] | blahbleorg: | I'm struggling to get my PVR-150 NTSC retail remote to work. Does anyone here have theirs working? |
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| [00:45:00] | Beirdo: | someone needs a real nick :) |
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| [00:53:00] | |RoCkY|: | Beirdo : i saw in some old logs you talked to some guy who asked about b/w picture on pvr 500 |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [00:53:00] | |RoCkY|: | you said it does not work for svideo yet |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | I said that's what I had heard |
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| [00:53:00] | |RoCkY|: | im courious, i get b/w picture on pvr 150 any idea if it is supported? |
| [00:53:00] | |RoCkY|: | im not using svideo |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | xris has it setup, whether or not he's tried the svideo lately, I dunno |
| [00:53:00] | |RoCkY|: | tuner (room antena) |
| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | you likely have the wrong tuner type setup or something |
| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | I don't have any 150s so I can't really comment |
| [00:54:00] | |RoCkY|: | yeah i scanned all 100 tuners with a script and no luck |
| [00:55:00] | |RoCkY|: | my pvr is detected type 55 and it has b/w picture on that type and all other(that work) |
| [00:55:00] | Beirdo: | j3_ (who's gone for the evening) would likely be able to help with specific issues |
| [00:55:00] | Beirdo: | make sure you set it to PAL |
| [00:55:00] | |RoCkY|: | yep |
| [00:55:00] | Beirdo: | you may be tuning in NTSC mode |
| [00:55:00] | Beirdo: | and unless Croatia changed, your TV there's PAL, no? |
| [00:55:00] | |RoCkY|: | nope i use ptune.pl with pal switch |
| [00:56:00] | |RoCkY|: | how would you tune in pal ? |
| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | there might be some module parameters that need to be set to get PAL working |
| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | any non-North Americans on with PVR-150s working? |
| [00:57:00] | |RoCkY|: | ./ptune.pl -d /dev/video0 -f pal-europe -c 25 |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | I think it's a module parameter |
| [00:57:00] | |RoCkY|: | i tune with this cmd (it should be pal enough?) |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | not just a command line thing |
| [00:57:00] | |RoCkY|: | ivtv module? |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | if the driver thinks it's in NTSC mode, you'll need to tell it otherwise |
| [00:58:00] | Beirdo: | likely. either that or the tuner module which ivtv inserts |
| [00:58:00] | |RoCkY|: | between start and end it only mentions pal no ntsc?:( |
| [00:59:00] | |RoCkY|: | Apr 30 04:25:54 myth kernel: tuner: type set to 55 (LG PAL (TAPE series)) by ivtv i2c driver #0 |
| [00:59:00] | |RoCkY|: | Apr 30 04:25:54 myth kernel: ivtv: Switching standard to PAL. |
| [00:59:00] | |RoCkY|: | Apr 30 04:25:54 myth kernel: ivtv: Initialized WinTV PVR 150, card #0 |
| [00:59:00] | |RoCkY|: | this should be ok? |
| [01:00:00] | Beirdo: | I think so |
| [01:00:00] | Beirdo: | but I don't know, I don't have a PAL setup to compare with |
| [01:00:00] | Beirdo: | it looks good though |
| [01:00:00] | |RoCkY|: | yeah tnx allot |
| [01:00:00] | |RoCkY|: | i can hardly find someone with pal:) so this is one of the best talks i got:) |
| [01:01:00] | |RoCkY|: | no pals around :(( |
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| [01:01:00] | Beirdo: | there are plenty of Europeans and Australians in the channel |
| [01:01:00] | xris: | Beirdo: my 150 works fine lately. |
| [01:01:00] | xris: | I just don't have it in my mythbox. |
| [01:01:00] | Beirdo: | whether or not they are using the PVR-150 is the only question |
| [01:01:00] | Beirdo: | xris: heheh |
| [01:01:00] | Beirdo: | give up? |
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| [01:02:00] | |RoCkY|: | yeah im not really in to the giving up thing:)) |
| [01:02:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:02:00] | |RoCkY|: | i spent to much time just to give up now:) |
| [01:02:00] | Beirdo: | good |
| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | we'll see if you can't get some help from someone with a better idea what to look for |
| [01:03:00] | |RoCkY|: | but im thinking of instaling this uber cool and supported os:) maybe it works there ... Win?anyone:) |
| [01:03:00] | |RoCkY|: | lol just kiddin |
| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | I know if I screw up and tell my tuners to use PAL, I get black and white |
| [01:03:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: do not mix 150 and 250 in the same box :) |
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| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | so it wouldn't surprise me if it did so in the other direction, although that may not be the issue |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: why not? |
| [01:04:00] | mchou: | because of some weird i2c crap...... |
| [01:04:00] | mchou: | wont work well together..... |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | xris: get Jarod to fix your name on http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/tips.php |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | he has it spelled wrong |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | Holy crap look at the time |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I'm gonna head home |
| [01:07:00] | |RoCkY|: | Beirdo : kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| [01:07:00] | |RoCkY|: | sory foks for that one |
| [01:07:00] | |RoCkY|: | Beirdo : tnx tnx tnx! it was the pal option for ivtv |
| [01:08:00] | emes: | anyone got 0.18 working on os X? |
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| [01:16:00] | [Klatuu]: | any good HOWTOs for directv serial control? |
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| [01:21:00] | Agrajag-: | im trying to export to a dvd with nuvexport – does anyone know if dvd's have to be 720x576? |
| [01:22:00] | Riff-Raf1: | pal dvd's have to be |
| [01:22:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm ok. just it looks vertically stretched |
| [01:23:00] | Riff-Raf1: | of course it depends on the original material |
| [01:24:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm i must be doing something wrong |
| [01:24:00] | Agrajag-: | im doing the transcode thing by hand because myth stores the aspect wrong for my recordings |
| [01:27:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm ok so 720x576 is 1.25.. i guess i need it to be 1.777 (16:9) and to add letterboxing |
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| [01:33:00] | Kiesus: | now i'm getting this error message when i try to install mythtv with dvb support. si linuxtv-dvb fails: http://ancients.hopto.org/files/linuxtv-dvb_error-message.txt |
| [01:33:00] | Kiesus: | *so |
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| [01:44:00] | Uberbot: | Hi all. |
| [01:45:00] | Uberbot: | If I edit a program and store a cutlist for it, when I transcode the program, it should rewrite the file according to the cutlist, right? |
| [01:46:00] | defaultro: | paging MCHOU!!!! |
| [01:48:00] | smoke_: | can someone here help me with the ivtv driverS? i saw the topic but ikeep getting lame errrors |
| [01:52:00] | GeckoFiend: | Uberbot yes |
| [01:52:00] | Uberbot: | So, if I cut out the commericals and re-transcode, they will be gone? |
| [01:52:00] | GeckoFiend: | yep |
| [01:53:00] | Uberbot: | Way cool! |
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| [01:55:00] | xris: | Uberbot: you have a pvr-x50 card, or bttv? |
| [01:55:00] | Uberbot: | I've got a pvr 250. |
| [01:55:00] | Uberbot: | Why? |
| [01:56:00] | xris: | because if you transcode, it turns into an nuv file, not mpeg-2 |
| [01:57:00] | xris: | if you want to keep it mpeg2, use nuvexport's mpeg2cut function |
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| [02:00:00] | Beirdo: | ugh, blah |
| [02:01:00] | Uberbot: | mpeg2cut is an option in nuvexport? Thanx for the hint. |
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| [02:03:00] | xris: | Uberbot: only way you'll get lossless mpeg2 commercial cutting |
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| [02:05:00] | Uberbot: | Thanx. |
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| [02:24:00] | hadees: | hmm is there anyone to build a laptop with magnets on the back? that would hold it ot the fridge? |
| [02:26:00] | Beirdo: | might be easier with a tablet PC :) |
| [02:26:00] | xris: | velcro would be safer, too |
| [02:27:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
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| [02:37:00] | MiX-MaN: | i deleted some nuv files .. how do i get them to quit coming up in the recorded files menu... |
| [02:43:00] | Beirdo: | you don't delete them from a prompt |
| [02:44:00] | Beirdo: | you delete them from the frontend or mythweb |
| [02:44:00] | Beirdo: | the easiest way to fix it now is touch the files to make a 0 byte file |
| [02:44:00] | Beirdo: | and delete it properly |
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| [02:46:00] | asteriskn00b: | hello all |
| [02:47:00] | asteriskn00b: | quick question... is it possible to stream a myth stream to a windoze desktop, such as music or video? |
| [02:48:00] | D-side: | asteriskn00b: google dsmyth. you're feeling lucky. |
| [02:48:00] | asteriskn00b: | will do... thanks |
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| [02:49:00] | D-side: | i *think* that works anyway. |
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| [02:56:00] | asteriskn00b: | ok opinion time, which platform should I make a stable backend from, I have played with fedora, knoppmyth, and gentoo, which in your opinion is a better platform? |
| [02:56:00] | Beirdo: | which ever one you like best |
| [02:57:00] | asteriskn00b: | i am really agnostic to any single platform, just wondering down the road which would be better as far as dependancies are concerned |
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| [02:57:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [02:57:00] | Beirdo: | whichever |
| [02:57:00] | Beirdo: | knoppmyth likely the least upgradable of the bunch |
| [02:58:00] | asteriskn00b: | ok |
| [02:58:00] | Beirdo: | easiest to install |
| [02:58:00] | Beirdo: | but not the easiest to upgrade |
| [02:58:00] | asteriskn00b: | understood |
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| [03:01:00] | Beirdo: | I personally am using FC1, but it all comes down to personal preference |
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| [03:05:00] | smoke_: | what do u guys use as the input? cuz ihave nothing on the screen i can add... |
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| [03:06:00] | xris: | smoke_: drivers for your tuner card loaded? |
| [03:07:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [03:07:00] | smoke_: | yes |
| [03:07:00] | smoke_: | i loaded ivtv... |
| [03:07:00] | smoke_: | im using gentoo and i emerged them i tried compiling it but ihad some wierd problems where videodev wasnt working correctly. |
| [03:07:00] | smoke_: | but now my /dev/video0 works correctly , now i dont know what to put for the input :) |
| [03:08:00] | Bret: | Question: I'm trying to set up a new installation of Myth-0.18, and when I ran mythtvsetup, I get this: QInputContext: cannot create input contextx for non-toplevel widgets |
| [03:08:00] | smoke_: | Bret, it sounds like a wxwindows problem. |
| [03:08:00] | smoke_: | err |
| [03:08:00] | smoke_: | not wx, .. but gtk orwhatever mythtv uses. |
| [03:08:00] | Bret: | This appears to be the only real error I'm getting; mythtvsetup gives me a languages selection screen, two screens about deleting cards & channels, then exits. |
| [03:09:00] | Bret: | Qt? |
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| [03:09:00] | spiderworm: | hey all I'm just getting a blue screen when I try to watch TV, can anyone help? |
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| [03:10:00] | braniff: | where can i find an up to date sources.list for apt on fedora 3 ?? |
| [03:11:00] | spiderworm: | i have a bt878 video capture card, but whether i try to watch through tvtime or mythtv, i get a blue screen, using the bttv drivers here |
| [03:15:00] | smoke_: | nm |
| [03:15:00] | smoke_: | i got it to work |
| [03:15:00] | smoke_: | just have to do it in root. |
| [03:17:00] | braniff: | spiderworm, look at your error messages |
| [03:20:00] | spiderworm: | i dont understand the error messages lol |
| [03:20:00] | braniff: | what do they say ?? |
| [03:21:00] | spiderworm: | what sort of capture card setting am i supposed to use in mythtv-setup with a bt878 card? |
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| [03:22:00] | braniff: | i think set it to /dev/video0 |
| [03:22:00] | braniff: | iirc |
| [03:22:00] | Beirdo: | spiderworm: it's a V4L capture card |
| [03:22:00] | spiderworm: | does it matter if it's v4l, oh ok thats what i meant thanx |
| [03:23:00] | spiderworm: | mythtv: could not connect to socket |
| [03:23:00] | spiderworm: | mythtv: no such file or directory |
| [03:23:00] | braniff: | backend not running |
| [03:23:00] | spiderworm: | backend's running |
| [03:24:00] | Beirdo: | is MySQL running? |
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| [03:24:00] | spiderworm: | mysqld is running |
| [03:24:00] | spiderworm: | as well as mysqld_safe? wonder what that is |
| [03:25:00] | spiderworm: | if i run tvtime, shouldnt i be able to get picture? |
| [03:26:00] | braniff: | have you tried xawtv ?? |
| [03:26:00] | braniff: | that's closer to mythtv |
| [03:27:00] | spiderworm: | installing it now |
| [03:27:00] | braniff: | hey beirdo...are you still a dev on mythtv ? i haven't been around in a while |
| [03:27:00] | Beirdo: | I haven't done any in the core of myth itself yet |
| [03:27:00] | Beirdo: | but plan on it |
| [03:27:00] | braniff: | cool |
| [03:28:00] | Beirdo: | I've been working on nuvexport and nuv2avi though |
| [03:28:00] | braniff: | nuvexport is really useful |
| [03:28:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, it's sweet. and I'm happy to help xris with it :) |
| [03:28:00] | Cromz: | useful.. it rocks.. |
| [03:29:00] | spiderworm: | i had fc3 running with mythtv just fine two days ago but fc3 locked me out so i decided to reinstall with ubuntu, i havent touched the hardware, only software |
| [03:29:00] | spiderworm: | so this should work if i can get the configuration down |
| [03:29:00] | Beirdo: | reminds me, I should do some work on it this weekend |
| [03:29:00] | ** xris wishes that other programs would play nicely with nuvexport again. ** | |
| [03:29:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [03:29:00] | xris: | could go back to using transcode for xvid if mythtranscode cutlist worked properly. |
| [03:30:00] | ** xris pokes Captain_Murdoch — any luck with that messed up recording you grabbed from me? ** | |
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| [03:30:00] | xris: | I'm running out of disk space. can't transcode. |
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| [03:30:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:30:00] | Beirdo: | wow |
| [03:31:00] | Beirdo: | it doesn't work? what does it do now? |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | mythtranscode doesn't honor cutlists. |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | so I can't use ffmpeg |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | and transcode gets all jumpy |
| [03:31:00] | Beirdo: | blech |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | (something about multipass, I think) |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | I gave Captain_Murdoch a recording that's problematic. |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | hopefully he can figure something out. |
| [03:32:00] | Beirdo: | is it borked on all files, or just some? |
| [03:32:00] | xris: | I can theoretically use transcode on some of my mpeg-based recordings to get rid of them. |
| [03:32:00] | xris: | um, I think it's all mpeg4 files. some worse than others. |
| [03:32:00] | spiderworm: | so with xawtv i get this warning: "couldnt find frameuffer base address, try manual configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>") |
| [03:32:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I have about 30 that I wanted to queue up to run through this weekend |
| [03:33:00] | spiderworm: | also "v4l-conf is compiled without DGA support" |
| [03:35:00] | Beirdo: | those two are likely symptoms of the same issue |
| [03:36:00] | spiderworm: | you know, I just thought of something, when I was setting this up I was for some reason thinking that I was supposed to use the ivtv driver, when in reality im supposed to use the bttv apparently.... |
| [03:37:00] | spiderworm: | so anyways in the process of installing the ivtv driver, i deleted a bunch of files, .ko files that had to do with video that conflicted with ivtv drivers |
| [03:37:00] | braniff: | hmmm...maybe not a good thing |
| [03:38:00] | spiderworm: | i also tried to update the firmware on the video capture card per ivtv instructions with firmware for ivtv devices... i doubt it would have actually overwritten firmware on the bt878, but i still did it |
| [03:39:00] | spiderworm: | braniff: any ideas how i could get those files back |
| [03:39:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:39:00] | spiderworm: | im such a moron |
| [03:39:00] | Beirdo: | it won't do squat to the card |
| [03:39:00] | spiderworm: | i figgured |
| [03:39:00] | Cromz: | now the wife and I are fighting for the remote to fastforward through the commercials.. lol |
| [03:40:00] | Beirdo: | give the woman the remote. |
| [03:40:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:40:00] | Beirdo: | will be better for your sex life, I'd bet |
| [03:40:00] | braniff: | spiderworm, heh well there used to be undelete for linux, but it didnt work real well |
| [03:40:00] | spiderworm: | lol |
| [03:40:00] | Cromz: | heh.. I was gonna blame Beirdo but I can't.. |
| [03:40:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [03:40:00] | braniff: | maybe can load bttv driver and hope for the best first |
| [03:41:00] | spiderworm: | braniff: what about reinstalling the bttv driver? it appears to have come with the default install cause i didnt manually install it |
| [03:41:00] | braniff: | that sounds good |
| [03:41:00] | spiderworm: | braniff: when i modprobe bttv it returns no errrors |
| [03:41:00] | spiderworm: | how would i go about reinstalling the bttv driver? this stuff is beyond me |
| [03:42:00] | braniff: | never used ubuntu — can you use rpms on ubuntu ?? |
| [03:42:00] | spiderworm: | debian based |
| [03:42:00] | spiderworm: | apt |
| [03:42:00] | spiderworm: | .deb |
| [03:42:00] | braniff: | apt then yeah |
| [03:43:00] | braniff: | apt-get reinstall <bttv-driver-name> |
| [03:43:00] | spiderworm: | ive already looked around for bttv in the repos... i guess i need to find out the package name |
| [03:43:00] | braniff: | apt-cache search bttv |
| [03:43:00] | laga: | D-side: yep. |
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| [03:47:00] | ** braniff crosses his fingers and does an apt-get dist-upgrade ** | |
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| [03:50:00] | smoke_: | if u dont have the cable plugged into the card, it wont start up? |
| [03:50:00] | Beirdo: | smoke_: depends on what kinda card |
| [03:50:00] | smoke_: | pvr250 |
| [03:50:00] | smoke_: | rev 1 |
| [03:50:00] | spiderworm: | hmm how about this error from xawtv "ioctl: VIDIOC_OVERLAY(int=1): invalid argument" |
| [03:51:00] | Beirdo: | should be fine |
| [03:51:00] | smoke_: | im getting |
| [03:51:00] | smoke_: | read: Input/output error |
| [03:51:00] | smoke_: | error reading from: /dev/v4l/video0 |
| [03:51:00] | smoke_: | wtf is that? |
| [03:51:00] | smoke_: | how do i test /dev/v4l/video0 ? |
| [03:51:00] | smoke_: | cuz /dev/video0 works.. |
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| [03:52:00] | braniff: | spiderworm, http://www.spinics.net/lists/vfl/msg09817.html |
| [03:54:00] | braniff: | that link discusses your problem — seems maybe you need to tweak your xorg.conf file |
| [03:55:00] | braniff: | to have your x server not try to use DGA |
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| [03:59:00] | spiderworm: | ok will check it thanx |
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| [04:05:00] | ** braniff pops open a beer ** | |
| [04:06:00] | laga: | braniff: prost. |
| [04:06:00] | braniff: | heh today it's bud light |
| [04:07:00] | braniff: | a gift for fixing my neighbor's computer |
| [04:07:00] | laga: | nice |
| [04:08:00] | laga: | i don't like "light" beers, though. |
| [04:08:00] | laga: | to drink or not to drink, that's the question ;) |
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| [04:08:00] | braniff: | she gave me 3 cases of assorted domestic beer |
| [04:09:00] | laga: | _3_ cases? good deal. |
| [04:09:00] | braniff: | i'm not complaining heh |
| [04:09:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [04:09:00] | Beirdo: | mmmm. piss light |
| [04:10:00] | braniff: | looks the same coming out as it does in the bottle (but it will get you drunk after a while) |
| [04:11:00] | Beirdo: | no it won't, I won't drink that shite :) |
| [04:12:00] | braniff: | any beer recommendations ?? |
| [04:12:00] | laga: | braniff: bruch zwickel, bruch landbier, karlsberg urpils. |
| [04:12:00] | Beirdo: | what kind do you like? |
| [04:12:00] | ** laga is such a dork sometimes... ** | |
| [04:12:00] | Beirdo: | a good India Pale Ale if you like hoppy beer |
| [04:13:00] | Beirdo: | wheat beer is pretty decent |
| [04:13:00] | braniff: | i like my beer strong and not "watery" |
| [04:13:00] | Beirdo: | define strong |
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| [04:14:00] | laga: | != american? ;) |
| [04:14:00] | braniff: | sam addams is close |
| [04:14:00] | Beirdo: | gack |
| [04:14:00] | braniff: | but still generic i know |
| [04:14:00] | Beirdo: | you need to try some decent european brews |
| [04:14:00] | laga: | ack. |
| [04:16:00] | Beirdo: | but anything's better than butt light :) |
| [04:16:00] | Beirdo: | except Gennessee |
| [04:16:00] | Beirdo: | that stuff is SHIT |
| [04:16:00] | Beirdo: | no offense to any northern New York State residents |
| [04:17:00] | Beirdo: | that's the shittiest beer I've ever had, way worse than Bud, Bud Light or Coors Light |
| [04:21:00] | laga: | i'm quite rpud – i never drunk light beer ;) |
| [04:21:00] | laga: | rising sun = bad. bed= good. |
| [04:21:00] | laga: | cya. |
| [04:21:00] | laga: | proud* |
| [04:22:00] | braniff: | cya |
| [04:22:00] | braniff: | i lost an audio channel in mythtv so that now sound only comes out of one speaker for mythtv. anyone else had this problem ?? |
| [04:26:00] | braniff: | cause i have NO idea what's up with that |
| [04:26:00] | dhofstra: | mono is the new stereo |
| [04:27:00] | braniff: | heh i'll just keep telling myself that |
| [04:28:00] | spiderworm: | what is lirc_init? |
| [04:30:00] | braniff: | executable that starts up Linux Infrared Remote Control |
| [04:32:00] | spiderworm: | oh dont need that |
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| [05:16:00] | piksel: | when my computer shuts down unexpectedly (ex. the power goes out), mythtv loses track of all the shows its recorded. They are still stored on the machine (I can "ls" them at a prompt), but they don't show up any longer as recorded shows, so I can't view any of them on mythtv. Any ideas? |
| [05:18:00] | MiX-MaN: | Beirdo: thanks man... got rid of all those dead files now :) |
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| [05:19:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [05:19:00] | MiX-MaN: | sorry.. was kinda afk |
| [05:19:00] | MiX-MaN: | heh |
| [05:19:00] | MiX-MaN: | fell asleep waiting on my pizza |
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| [05:33:00] | chugggss: | is it worth getting a pvr150 right now |
| [05:34:00] | MiX-MaN: | i'd recommend it if your gonna do alot of recording |
| [05:34:00] | MiX-MaN: | or something better then what i got atleast |
| [05:34:00] | MiX-MaN: | heh |
| [05:34:00] | MiX-MaN: | bt878 |
| [05:35:00] | chugggss: | has driver dev. caught up with it yet |
| [05:35:00] | MiX-MaN: | dunno |
| [05:35:00] | chugggss: | its still pretty new isnt it? |
| [05:35:00] | MiX-MaN: | everything i read though always says pvr pvr PVR!! |
| [05:35:00] | Semhirage: | i have pvr150 working perfectly |
| [05:36:00] | Semhirage: | correction, only thing that doesn't work yet is the built-in ir-blaster, but they're working on it |
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| [05:36:00] | CygnusX1: | Semhirage, you have lirc working? |
| [05:36:00] | MiX-MaN: | hmm it has a built in ir.. cool |
| [05:36:00] | MiX-MaN: | even more reason to buy one now |
| [05:37:00] | Semhirage: | lirc for receiver yes, for sending signals to control my external cable box, no |
| [05:37:00] | MiX-MaN: | watchs the diff between a 150 & 250? |
| [05:37:00] | MiX-MaN: | whats* |
| [05:37:00] | CygnusX1: | Semhirage, which kernel, lirc, and ivtv are you using? |
| [05:37:00] | chugggss: | MiX-MaN: www.hauppauge.com/pages/compare_pvr.html |
| [05:37:00] | MiX-MaN: | heh simple enough |
| [05:37:00] | MiX-MaN: | thanks |
| [05:38:00] | chugggss: | no problem |
| [05:39:00] | Semhirage: | 2.6.11 gentoo sources, lirc 0.7.0 and ivtv 0.3.2-r20, mythtv 0.17 |
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| [05:40:00] | MiX-MaN: | hmm.. no difference |
| [05:44:00] | jemarcks: | hey cygnusx1, i got it working! |
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| [05:51:00] | chugggss: | Semhirage, you would have no problem getting another 150 ? |
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| [05:58:00] | Beirdo: | hola |
| [05:58:00] | Mrgoose: | hola |
| [05:58:00] | rpete: | buenos dias |
| [05:58:00] | rpete: | er, buenos noche |
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| [06:01:00] | Beirdo: | damn I'm tired |
| [06:02:00] | opello: | so has everyone gone up to 0.18 without issue? |
| [06:04:00] | CygnusX1: | jemarcks, excellent!! |
| [06:05:00] | CygnusX1: | Semhirage, I couldn't get it working on same except k 2.6.9. Got everything working nice now on 2.6.11.7, 0.3.3k, and 0.18...can't get lirc going though |
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| [06:34:00] | crb: | Hi all. |
| [06:34:00] | MiX-MaN: | w3rd |
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| [06:34:00] | crb: | Has anyone found the new 'Album Artist Mode' that should be in 0.17+ ? |
| [06:35:00] | MiX-MaN: | if its like what i have u have to type it in |
| [06:35:00] | MiX-MaN: | not sure what ver im running |
| [06:35:00] | MiX-MaN: | i think .15 |
| [06:36:00] | MiX-MaN: | i wish they had a tree listing like the video section |
| [06:49:00] | Semhirage: | CygnusX1: no, i actually plan on picking up another 150 |
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| [07:03:00] | [xander]: | any pvr150 users in here? |
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| [07:16:00] | xris: | jemarcks: what was the issue? |
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| [07:37:00] | jvs: | good morning |
| [07:37:00] | jvs: | I need some help with the mysql db |
| [07:41:00] | Bogus8: | me too :) |
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| [07:42:00] | Bogus8: | I created the mythtv database (called mythconverg) as ROOT and I'm wondering if that matters... I noticed in my how-to that it said to do it as the user after I did it |
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| [07:43:00] | Bogus8: | does this matter.. if it does, how do I rectifie the issue |
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| [07:43:00] | jvs: | i dont know |
| [07:43:00] | jvs: | is it necessary to create the db mythoconverg? |
| [07:43:00] | jvs: | I dont think so |
| [07:44:00] | jvs: | I guess myth just needs to be allowed to access the server |
| [07:44:00] | Bogus8: | I guess... it said to do so in the how-to I'm reading... I don't know much about it.. I'm just kind of following the guide and hoping it works |
| [07:44:00] | Bogus8: | how do I delete the db mythconverg? |
| [07:45:00] | jvs: | start mysql |
| [07:45:00] | jvs: | and type |
| [07:45:00] | jvs: | drop database mythconverg; |
| [07:45:00] | Bogus8: | ah cool |
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| [07:46:00] | Bogus8: | how do I check what db's I have created |
| [07:47:00] | Beirdo: | by reading some mysql documentation :) |
| [07:47:00] | Bogus8: | :p |
| [07:48:00] | jvs: | show databases; |
| [07:48:00] | jvs: | if you run mythfilldatabase (--manual) |
| [07:48:00] | jvs: | it should fill the db |
| [07:49:00] | jvs: | if you login and then type again "show databases" there should be mythconverg |
| [07:49:00] | jvs: | not sure though |
| [07:49:00] | jvs: | but smbdy here might know it :) |
| [07:49:00] | Bogus8: | and if mythconverg was created it would show up there |
| [07:49:00] | TiCL: | can mythtv be used as TV tuner/recorder without all the internet (direct data/xmltv) capabilities? |
| [07:49:00] | Bogus8: | ah you said hat as I typed it ;) |
| [07:49:00] | Bogus8: | I have "mysql" and "test" |
| [07:50:00] | jvs: | thats the standard |
| [07:51:00] | Bogus8: | ok it accepted it as the regular user this time... so I guess i got it straightened out |
| [07:51:00] | Bogus8: | thanks |
| [07:51:00] | ** Bogus8 is going to start paying more attention ** | |
| [07:52:00] | jvs: | my problem is |
| [07:52:00] | jvs: | that even though the db is there |
| [07:53:00] | jvs: | and mythfilldatabase has been run |
| [07:53:00] | jvs: | mythtv says that my db must be corrupted |
| [07:53:00] | jvs: | and it cannot find any channels |
| [07:54:00] | Bogus8: | guess I don't need to tell you that that is way over my head ;) |
| [07:55:00] | Beirdo: | ahhhhh. Trailer Park Boys just rules |
| [07:56:00] | Beirdo: | I'm goin' to bed |
| [08:02:00] | jvs: | hmm |
| [08:02:00] | jvs: | when I start mythfilldatabase |
| [08:03:00] | jvs: | when its finished there should exist mythconverg? |
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| [08:14:00] | xris: | jvs: mythconverg should exist when you run mythtvsetup |
| [08:14:00] | xris: | mythfilldatabase just populates the program data. |
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| [08:21:00] | Bogus8: | I shouldn't have to modprobe lirc_i2c on a reboot should it (I haven't run mythtvsetup yet if that matters but I don't think it does) |
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| [08:55:00] | jvs: | xris: it isn there |
| [08:55:00] | jvs: | isnt |
| [08:55:00] | xris: | what isn't where? |
| [08:55:00] | xris: | oh, the db? |
| [08:55:00] | xris: | did you run mythtvsetup? |
| [08:56:00] | jvs: | the dbase |
| [08:56:00] | jvs: | yes |
| [08:57:00] | jvs: | I did even run filldb |
| [08:57:00] | xris: | how can it not be there, then? mythtvsetup creates mythconverg. you'd get errors all over the place if it couldn't |
| [08:58:00] | jvs: | when I try to login as root |
| [08:58:00] | jvs: | it tells me "access denied" |
| [08:58:00] | xris: | you might try using a password |
| [08:58:00] | xris: | mysql -u root -p mythconverg |
| [08:59:00] | xris: | (-p without a password will request it) |
| [08:59:00] | jvs: | and when I log in as user, show databases gives me just the standard mysql test db |
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| [08:59:00] | xris: | you could also try: mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg |
| [08:59:00] | jvs: | I did not enter a pwd for root |
| [09:00:00] | xris: | I'm aware of that (hence the "access denied" message) |
| [09:00:00] | jvs: | for this reason I even unmerged mysql |
| [09:00:00] | jvs: | and remerged it |
| [09:00:00] | jvs: | since this I never did set a pwd |
| [09:00:00] | xris: | you'd have to completely wipe /var/lib/mysql (or wherever gentoo puts it) |
| [09:01:00] | jvs: | what if I remove it now? :) |
| [09:01:00] | xris: | gentoo is probably smart enough to keep your databases around after you uninstall |
| [09:01:00] | xris: | if you remove it now, you're SOL |
| [09:01:00] | jvs: | SOL? |
| [09:02:00] | xris: | shit out of luck |
| [09:02:00] | jvs: | :) |
| [09:02:00] | jvs: | I could unmerge it |
| [09:02:00] | xris: | yes. |
| [09:02:00] | jvs: | remove the /var/lib/mysql and emerge it again |
| [09:02:00] | xris: | and then wipe the data |
| [09:02:00] | xris: | yes. |
| [09:03:00] | jvs: | any other dirs I might have to remove? |
| [09:03:00] | jvs: | yeah |
| [09:04:00] | jvs: | its still all there |
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| [09:04:00] | jvs: | I will remove it and emerge again |
| [09:04:00] | jvs: | that might me the config from the last install |
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| [09:05:00] | jvs: | that will take another hour on this poor pIII :) |
| [09:05:00] | jvs: | thanks for the help so far xris |
| [09:06:00] | jvs: | gentoo is the devil *grml |
| [09:06:00] | xris: | that's why I don't use it. |
| [09:06:00] | jvs: | ok, I guess there are no other dirs left |
| [09:07:00] | xris: | nope |
| [09:08:00] | jvs: | ok |
| [09:08:00] | jvs: | *wait* |
| [09:09:00] | beavis: | xris: isn't it quite late now in US? |
| [09:11:00] | xris: | 1 AM |
| [09:11:00] | rpete: | quite |
| [09:11:00] | xris: | not that late |
| [09:11:00] | rpete: | yeah, it's early really |
| [09:11:00] | rpete: | 4:11 am |
| [09:11:00] | xris: | I just gave up on work for the night (granted, I was "off" 8 hours ago) |
| [09:21:00] | jvs: | is it normal that xawtv ends in a segmentation fault |
| [09:21:00] | jvs: | :) |
| [09:23:00] | beavis: | yes it's a feature ;) |
| [09:24:00] | jvs: | good |
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| [10:06:00] | jvs: | ok |
| [10:06:00] | jvs: | finished reemering mysql |
| [10:07:00] | jvs: | running mythtv-setup now gives me, that it cannot connect to the db |
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| [15:03:00] | spiderworm: | hello, i cant get my tv tuner to work with tvtime, mythtv, or xawtv, lspci says its a "Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)", ive loaded of course the bttv module, bt878, just getting a blue screen |
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| [15:28:00] | spiderworm: | i just noticed that dmesg is showing a lot of this "tuner: tuner type not set"... could this be my problem? |
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| [15:32:00] | jvs: | hey |
| [15:32:00] | jvs: | I keep getting the error "Check channel failed" |
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| [15:45:00] | jvs: | as normal user "show databases;" does not return mythconverg |
| [15:45:00] | jvs: | might this be the problem? |
| [15:46:00] | jvs: | in LiveTV I cannot switch channels and get no picture on channel one |
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| [16:03:00] | jvs: | anybody knows this error "checkchannel failed"? |
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| [16:40:00] | fugit: | I'm looking for info on controling my cable box (sa explorer 2100) via usb |
| [16:41:00] | fugit: | tried google but came up short |
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| [16:50:00] | fugit: | Hope this has what I need looks promissing : http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . iew_threaded |
| [16:51:00] | fugit: | bah this one cost lots of money "warning: this solution is relatively expensive (US$100-$180)" |
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| [17:06:00] | jemarcks: | anybody setup an IR blaster to change channels on a RCA DTV satalite receiver box? |
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| [17:18:00] | doczico: | hi all |
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| [17:26:00] | jvs: | hey |
| [17:26:00] | abarbaccia: | hey all – a while back i was asking everybody about a remote problem with the screen flashing hard when i go to press any button- i found the answer was my monitor. it's an LCD and it's a bad one so that was the reason |
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| [17:27:00] | jvs: | anybody knows the "checkchannel failed" error? |
| [17:27:00] | jvs: | I keep getting this error |
| [17:27:00] | jvs: | and then it say "no channels available" |
| [17:27:00] | jvs: | *says |
| [17:28:00] | jvs: | your database is most likely setup incorrectly. |
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| [18:09:00] | donsmith: | anyone home? |
| [18:09:00] | donsmith: | I have a quick question re: hdtv cards |
| [18:09:00] | stoffel: | yes, dunno |
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| [18:10:00] | donsmith: | is the dvico fusion hdtv gold (the atsc version) supported under dvb and myth |
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| [18:10:00] | donsmith: | and is it better than the pchdtv 3000 |
| [18:13:00] | [rOcKy]: | hello , im havin problems with changing channels, im in PAL area and i use room antena |
| [18:13:00] | [rOcKy]: | i get CheckChannel failed error, and my channele table in mysql is manualy tuned |
| [18:14:00] | [rOcKy]: | i use names from frequencies.c in freqid column in the chanel table |
| [18:15:00] | dopester: | donsmith: nope.. i started to write a driver, but didn't get it quite working |
| [18:16:00] | dopester: | im going to probbably do the driver for it when i get my lg 5th gen air2pc to write |
| [18:16:00] | dopester: | the dvico uses a 4th gen lg |
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| [18:16:00] | dopester: | but i have no docs so i am hoping it will make more sense after i see the 5th gen work |
| [18:16:00] | donsmith: | so does the dvico take any load off the cpu? |
| [18:17:00] | dopester: | in what way? |
| [18:17:00] | dopester: | its not a hardware demux i don't believe |
| [18:17:00] | donsmith: | or is it like the pchdtv ? I like that it has an analog tuner and an internal header |
| [18:17:00] | dopester: | its a bt8x8/cx chip it uses for demux |
| [18:17:00] | dopester: | using a digital card for analog seems like such a waste when you can get a pvr250 for not that much money |
| [18:17:00] | donsmith: | sorry, don't know too much about how the whole video thing works |
| [18:18:00] | dopester: | yeah you would get uncompressed analog out of the dvico card (like the pchdtv) so you gotta compress it in software |
| [18:18:00] | donsmith: | well yeah, but i'd rather get 2 combo cards that do digital/analog than 1 card for analog and 1 for digital |
| [18:18:00] | dopester: | much easier to get a hardware compression card |
| [18:18:00] | dopester: | yeah i know your argument but its tough for me to justify |
| [18:18:00] | jvs: | [rOcKy]: same error here – austria |
| [18:18:00] | dopester: | just put your backend somewhere else with like 8 pci slots :) |
| [18:19:00] | dopester: | i really need to get 2–3 atsc cards anyway since it seems all the good stuff overlaps during primetime |
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| [18:19:00] | donsmith: | well i have a pvr mce right now and I love it which is 1 reason i'm really debating getting the air2pc |
| [18:19:00] | [rOcKy]: | jvs : which mythtv r u using? |
| [18:19:00] | jvs: | 0.18 |
| [18:19:00] | [rOcKy]: | 0.17 here :( |
| [18:19:00] | jvs: | I dunno know what to do about this error |
| [18:19:00] | dopester: | the 5th gen lg will help me alot cause i live in multipath hell |
| [18:19:00] | jvs: | and nobody will tell you in here |
| [18:20:00] | donsmith: | ig? |
| [18:20:00] | donsmith: | multipath? |
| [18:20:00] | jvs: | its like the only channel you will def. not get an answer concerning mythtv questions |
| [18:20:00] | dopester: | lg is a manufacturer of demods (converts 8vsb to bits) |
| [18:20:00] | donsmith: | ok |
| [18:20:00] | dopester: | multipath is like ghosting on analog tv |
| [18:20:00] | [rOcKy]: | jvs im clules 2 :) i read some docs about that specific error but it does not help (i tryed mofiying a lot and some and this that nothing) |
| [18:20:00] | dopester: | but it really screws up digital tv |
| [18:20:00] | dopester: | depends on what part of the country ya live in |
| [18:20:00] | [rOcKy]: | jvs : check this http://mythtv.info/moin.cgi/XmlTv/MythChannelSetup |
| [18:20:00] | dopester: | in NC we got hills, trees, buildings, etc that make tv reception really bad |
| [18:21:00] | dopester: | i never have seen analog tv here without at least 4–5 ghosts :) |
| [18:21:00] | dopester: | but if you live in the plains it wouldn't make any difference |
| [18:21:00] | jvs: | I keep getting this error |
| [18:21:00] | jvs: | and then it says "no channels available" |
| [18:21:00] | donsmith: | well i live in nyc here and the atsc ota comes in fine with the tuner in my tv |
| [18:21:00] | jvs: | your database is most likely setup incorrectly. |
| [18:21:00] | donsmith: | so i'm hoping whatever card i get handles everything fine |
| [18:22:00] | dopester: | yeah unless you are in lower manhatten i bet your fine |
| [18:22:00] | donsmith: | it's amazing the analog version of the channels look like garbage, but the hdtv usually doesn't flicker |
| [18:22:00] | dopester: | hehe that beauty of ditital |
| [18:22:00] | jvs: | hmm |
| [18:23:00] | donsmith: | i get all available channels |
| [18:23:00] | jvs: | strange that is [rOcKy] |
| [18:23:00] | jvs: | it worked with my pctv stereo out of the box |
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| [18:23:00] | donsmith: | well i mean sometimes it gets corrupted |
| [18:23:00] | dopester: | well you dont want that :) |
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| [18:23:00] | dopester: | thats why i need the lg 5th gen |
| [18:23:00] | donsmith: | but for the most part it's perfect |
| [18:24:00] | dopester: | my pbs breaks up about 30% of the time with the pchd2k and about 2–3% of the time with the nxt2002 based air2pc |
| [18:24:00] | donsmith: | yeah so if i get an air2pc from the myth store will it have that? |
| [18:24:00] | donsmith: | well you're lucky on that, manhatten doesn't have ota pbs |
| [18:24:00] | dopester: | yeah all the new air2pcs will be lg 5th gen |
| [18:24:00] | dopester: | the nxt2002 version sold out ages ago |
| [18:26:00] | donsmith: | god, why can't they just put an analog tuner on the card, or make it dual like the pvr500 or something, the mb i have specked only has 3 pcis |
| [18:27:00] | dopester: | well the problem is they would have to still put hardware compression on the board |
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| [18:29:00] | donsmith: | yeah so? i mean the pvr500 does that? why not for hdtv? |
| [18:30:00] | dopester: | the hdtv cards have no compression |
| [18:30:00] | dopester: | since its already mpeg2 they just transfer data |
| [18:30:00] | donsmith: | so then my not a pci-e version if it's a bandwidth issue |
| [18:31:00] | dcstimm: | hey guys, I just moved from Buffalo NY to san diego CA, and I had to redo zaptoit for the correct listings, now after I did a mythfilldatabase it is showing both channels for example in buffalo channel 30 was cnn and here its MTV, but it shows both in the guide.. any ideas on how to fix this? |
| [18:31:00] | laga: | i probably can drop the tv guide when you start the setup. |
| [18:31:00] | laga: | it asks you. |
| [18:32:00] | dopester: | donsmith: huh? |
| [18:32:00] | donsmith: | why would they have to put compression on the board if it was dual? |
| [18:32:00] | dopester: | if you wanted digital and analog you would really want hardware compression for the analog side of it |
| [18:33:00] | donsmith: | oh right |
| [18:33:00] | donsmith: | but if not analog then at least dual |
| [18:33:00] | dopester: | other wise you have a piece of crap $10 bttv analog card with an expensive digital card |
| [18:33:00] | donsmith: | right i get it |
| [18:33:00] | dopester: | need 2 demodulators, et |
| [18:33:00] | dopester: | i don't know of any dual digital cards out there dvb or atsc |
| [18:34:00] | dopester: | i dont know if there is a big enough market for them |
| [18:34:00] | ZMorek: | j/w, what's everyone's preference codec-wise is |
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| [18:35:00] | donsmith: | actually i thought with the skystar2 you could watch 2 channels, or at least watch and surf the internet over satellite? is that true? |
| [18:35:00] | ZMorek: | I'm going to start transcoding my shows as my HD is filling up fast... I've got live-action shows and animation... so I'm wondering what I should use for each |
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| [18:43:00] | dcstimm: | okay I deleted the listings when I ran mythtv-setup but now I can see the correct channels in the guide but I cant change the channel or view the channel listing when in browse mode |
| [18:43:00] | dcstimm: | any idea? |
| [18:47:00] | dcstimm: | anyone? |
| [18:49:00] | dcstimm: | hello? |
| [18:50:00] | dcstimm: | where did everyone go? |
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| [18:59:00] | Cromz: | dcstimm: do you get the browse osd on the screen? |
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| [19:01:00] | jvs: | do I need the bttv module for the pvr250 |
| [19:01:00] | jvs: | or is the ivtv sufficient? |
| [19:01:00] | jemarcks: | hey, cromz, i got the audio fixed :) |
| [19:02:00] | Cromz: | jvs: you shouldn't need the bttv |
| [19:02:00] | jemarcks: | welllllll, sorta |
| [19:02:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: bout time. |
| [19:02:00] | ** Cromz snickers ** | |
| [19:02:00] | jvs: | hmm |
| [19:02:00] | jvs: | mythtv could find all channels using a pctv stereo |
| [19:02:00] | jvs: | using a pvr250 it cant find nothing |
| [19:02:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, well it still has issues. xvideo still has no audio. i only have synced audio with tuner0 |
| [19:03:00] | jemarcks: | i think my audio woes are firmware/ivtv issues |
| [19:03:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: you using the line in on the capture card now right? |
| [19:03:00] | jemarcks: | yep... |
| [19:03:00] | jemarcks: | heh |
| [19:04:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, now i need to set up a way to change channels. i have a DTV receiver. (RCA) |
| [19:05:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: you should mute line then. cause the capture card isn't 'line' device.. even though it's line in on the card. I think. don't quote me on that one.. but I will find out later myself. I'm gonna redo mine. to svideo and line |
| [19:05:00] | jemarcks: | oh cool.. lets compare notes. ;) |
| [19:05:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, how do i mute line on the capture card? |
| [19:06:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, you mean use alsamixer to mute the line in? |
| [19:06:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: you don't. you mute the line that I told you to unmute lol un the alsa mess. |
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| [19:08:00] | Cromz: | hi'ya xris |
| [19:08:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, ok.. i used alsamixer to mute Line on the playback screen. |
| [19:08:00] | dcstimm: | anyone know? |
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| [19:08:00] | Cromz: | dcstimm: do you get the browse osd on the screen? |
| [19:09:00] | dcstimm: | yeah it says (11:08 am 0 minutes) |
| [19:10:00] | dcstimm: | but when I press up and down it doesnt do anything |
| [19:10:00] | Cromz: | dcstimm: but does it show you the channel info? |
| [19:10:00] | dcstimm: | nope |
| [19:10:00] | dcstimm: | it has a – though it |
| [19:10:00] | dcstimm: | the guide has everything |
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| [19:10:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, muted Line using alsamixer and still no audio with svideo |
| [19:10:00] | dcstimm: | and I cant change the channel |
| [19:11:00] | jvs: | do I need to assign the number ptune gives me as channel id? |
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| [19:13:00] | Cromz: | dcstimm: go into the mythfrontend 'Utilities / Setup' then tv-setting, playback, and change the osd theme on the last screen. I used titivillus-osd seemed to help with a simular issue I had. |
| [19:13:00] | dcstimm: | ok |
| [19:13:00] | dcstimm: | let me try |
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| [19:15:00] | dcstimm: | Cromz, does the same thing |
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| [19:15:00] | Cardoe: | hey all |
| [19:15:00] | Cardoe: | I'm back |
| [19:15:00] | Cardoe: | :) |
| [19:16:00] | Cardoe: | quick question if anyone's awake? |
| [19:16:00] | Cromz: | dcstimm: :/ damn.. was hoping I could help you on that.. I dunno then, sorry.. |
| [19:17:00] | dcstimm: | dang |
| [19:17:00] | Cardoe: | Anyone know how to set their pvr-250 to capture S-Video output? |
| [19:17:00] | Cardoe: | got some stuff on VCR that I want to digitize. |
| [19:17:00] | jvs: | how come mythtv had the right frequencies the last time |
| [19:17:00] | jvs: | with a pctv stereo |
| [19:18:00] | jvs: | and not now, using a pvr250? |
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| [19:20:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: I have go out and buy the cable before I can break my myth again. heh but my wife isn't here and I have to wait till she gets home before I can go get them. |
| [19:20:00] | BaZiL4101: | anyonge got a good lircrc file configured for working with hauppage 350 myth and mplayer |
| [19:20:00] | BaZiL4101: | ??? |
| [19:21:00] | jemarcks: | cardoe, ivtvctl -p 0 will set the input to svideo0 |
| [19:21:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, a svideo cable? |
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| [19:22:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, i had 2 in old videocard boxes ;) |
| [19:23:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: ya. I need one that's a little longer then the norm. cause I'm too lazy to re-adjust my desk to get the cable box closer to the computer. lol |
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| [19:23:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, well when you get svideo and audio hooked up and working, let me know. i want to know how you set it up since you have the same card i do |
| [19:23:00] | Cromz: | k |
| [19:23:00] | jemarcks: | lol. i moved the DTV box down next to the computer |
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| [19:24:00] | Cromz: | my cable box and vcr are being used as lcd stand lol and the computer is about an arms length away to the other side.. lol |
| [19:25:00] | Cardoe: | jemarcks: I get only black and white from that? |
| [19:25:00] | jemarcks: | hmm... messy. lol |
| [19:25:00] | Cromz: | to raise the lcd up to match my crt screen. ahhaha |
| [19:26:00] | jemarcks: | cardoe, hmmm.. i did too at first... leme think what i did. whats your modprobe.conf look like for ivtv? |
| [19:26:00] | Cardoe: | alias char-major-81 videodev |
| [19:26:00] | Cardoe: | alias char-major-81–0 ivtv |
| [19:26:00] | Cardoe: | alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c |
| [19:26:00] | Cardoe: | add above ivtv lirc_dev lirc_i2c |
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| [19:27:00] | Cardoe: | jemarcks: I just want to record a VHS tape to mpeg2 |
| [19:27:00] | Cardoe: | not perm change stuff |
| [19:27:00] | jemarcks: | cardoe, comment out the 'add' |
| [19:27:00] | mik3: | my pvr-350 ir remote is driving me nuts |
| [19:27:00] | jemarcks: | my pvr150 remote is super! |
| [19:28:00] | mik3: | it won't reliably recognize buttons... like channel up works but not channel down |
| [19:29:00] | mik3: | i tried making a new conf with irrecord but it is just weird, like i'll program a key, and then the next key it just recognizes before i even push it |
| [19:33:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: here's my modprobe.conf :P http://www.cromz.com/modprobe.conf.txt lol |
| [19:34:00] | mik3: | when i run mode2, a button alternates between 2 different codes every time i push it (?) |
| [19:36:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, looks good. |
| [19:37:00] | dcstimm: | okay I deleted the listings when I ran mythtv-setup but now I can see the correct channels in the guide but I cant change the channel or view the channel listing when in browse mode |
| [19:37:00] | dcstimm: | anyone know? |
| [19:37:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, you dont have options cx25840 no_black_magic=1 in yours. hmm |
| [19:38:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: nope. that gave me problems so I took it out. |
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| [19:38:00] | jemarcks: | hmmmmmmmm |
| [19:38:00] | jemarcks: | br |
| [19:39:00] | dcstimm: | amupme lmpw wju tje OSD isnt working and why I cant change the channel? |
| [19:39:00] | mjunkiexl: | Mythfrontend crashes every time I try to Watch TV... following error: |
| [19:39:00] | mjunkiexl: | (*) DirectFB/Core/WM: Default 0.2 (Convergence GmbH) |
| [19:39:00] | mjunkiexl: | 2005-04–30 14:36:47 DirectFB output : card : NO hardware blit support |
| [19:39:00] | mjunkiexl: | (!) [ 5042: 0.000] --> Caught signal 11 (at 0x4d0077, invalid address) <-- |
| [19:39:00] | mjunkiexl: | Killed |
| [19:39:00] | BaZiL4101: | jermarcks .. u think u could provide yer lircr conffile |
| [19:39:00] | BaZiL4101: | if its set to work for mplayer also that is |
| [19:40:00] | mjunkiexl: | If I use the kernel deinterlace method... sometimes it will work.. but the TV will be colored HORRIBLY green, and in some small non-fs window ... if I use Bob or something else... crash |
| [19:40:00] | dcstimm: | anyone know why my Guide is full of channel information but my OSD isnt displaying anything and I cant change the channel? |
| [19:41:00] | jemarcks: | bazil4101, for my remote? |
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| [19:44:00] | jvs: | umm |
| [19:44:00] | jvs: | changing channels using ptune |
| [19:44:00] | jvs: | what are the numbers shown there? |
| [19:44:00] | jvs: | ch.: 25 229250 3668 |
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| [19:46:00] | dcstimm: | anyone know? |
| [19:47:00] | BaZiL4101: | jermarcks . ya . ure remote .. is it sat for working with mplayer also ????? if so .. can i have the configfile ? |
| [19:48:00] | dcstimm: | anyone? |
| [19:48:00] | mik3: | anyone have a lircd.conf for a pvr-350 remote? i have a grey one, but it has the 4 colored buttons at the bottom |
| [19:48:00] | GeckoFiend: | dcstimm you're on an invalid channel |
| [19:48:00] | mjunkiexl: | It's GOT to be MythTV / DirectFB ... because I pass the cat tast with ease :( |
| [19:49:00] | laga: | do you need directfb? |
| [19:49:00] | dcstimm: | GeckoFiend, how do I change that? |
| [19:50:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, well damit. i rebooted my myth box and not i get static and crappy video on tuner0 again. svideo in is good but no audio |
| [19:50:00] | GeckoFiend: | try changing the channel using the EPG or number keys instead of chan up/down |
| [19:50:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks: :/ |
| [19:50:00] | dcstimm: | GeckoFiend, EPG? |
| [19:50:00] | dcstimm: | GeckoFiend, nothing changes the channel, not even the number keys |
| [19:50:00] | GeckoFiend: | Electronic Program Guide |
| [19:50:00] | dcstimm: | it wont record anything either |
| [19:51:00] | dcstimm: | GeckoFiend, tried it |
| [19:51:00] | GeckoFiend: | what's it say in the console? |
| [19:51:00] | dcstimm: | Driver error was [2/1064]: |
| [19:51:00] | dcstimm: | QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query |
| [19:51:00] | dcstimm: | Database error was: |
| [19:51:00] | dcstimm: | You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'AND starttime < 20050430113550 AND endtime > 20050430113550 |
| [19:52:00] | GeckoFiend: | that must be using brwose mode? |
| [19:52:00] | dcstimm: | huh? |
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| [19:54:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: you there? |
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| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [19:55:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: what's your HW version on linksysert54G? |
| [19:55:00] | mchou: | linksys WRT54G* |
| [19:55:00] | mchou: | 2 or 3? |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | I have 2 * 2.2, 1 * 2.0 |
| [19:56:00] | mchou: | hmm, shucks. I bought one today and it's version 3.0 |
| [19:56:00] | mik3: | dcstimm, it sounds like your input connection isn't set up |
| [19:56:00] | dcstimm: | mik3, okay, how do I go about doing that? |
| [19:56:00] | mik3: | mythtvsetup |
| [19:56:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: what fw version allows you to turn on boot_wait? |
| [19:56:00] | jvs: | how do I find out the frequencies of certain channels? |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | there is a #wrt54g that might be able to help, I dunno |
| [19:57:00] | dcstimm: | mik3, which options? |
| [19:57:00] | mchou: | according to openwrt.org, 3.37.2 is the one, but that's for the GS model. |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | ask the guys in that channel, they are the openwrt guys |
| [19:57:00] | mik3: | well check "input connections", make sure there is one set up that links your tuner with the channel |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | I think [mbm] is one of the main guys |
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| [19:59:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: ok, popping on over to #wrt45g :) |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | hopefully they can help :) |
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| [20:00:00] | itsame: | yo |
| [20:01:00] | mechtn_: | sup guys |
| [20:01:00] | mechtn_: | i think i'm about to reinstall fedora |
| [20:01:00] | mechtn_: | and start from scratch since i got some better experiance |
| [20:01:00] | mechtn_: | moving to a dell we had at work that we are not using.. was a server.. p4 2.8ghz and 1gb ram .. |
| [20:02:00] | mechtn_: | acctually its like a high end workstation.. i retired it lol |
| [20:02:00] | jvs: | how do I switch the freq table in ptune? |
| [20:02:00] | jvs: | ptune.pl --freqtable pal-europe-west |
| [20:02:00] | jvs: | gives me an error |
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| [20:48:00] | Drognar: | Hi all |
| [20:49:00] | Drognar: | Can mythtv run without OSS (only alsa)? – I don't have a /dev/dsp, and mythbackend complains whenever it tries to do recording... |
| [20:49:00] | xris: | Drognar: ./configure --help |
| [20:50:00] | xris: | (or just install the OSS emulation for ALSA) |
| [20:51:00] | Drognar: | I am using gentoo, with "-oss alsa" in my use flags (among others) – that translates to --disable-audio-oss --enable-audio-alsa |
| [20:51:00] | Drognar: | I do not have OSS compiled in my kernel at all |
| [20:52:00] | mjunkiexl: | Anybody help? mythfrontend crashes every time I try to Watch TV... following error: |
| [20:52:00] | mjunkiexl: | 2005-04–30 14:36:47 DirectFB output : card : NO hardware blit support |
| [20:52:00] | mjunkiexl: | (!) [ 5042: 0.000] --> Caught signal 11 (at 0x4d0077, invalid address) <-- |
| [20:52:00] | mjunkiexl: | Killed |
| [20:52:00] | laga: | mjunkiexl: why are you using dfb? |
| [20:52:00] | mjunkiexl: | laga — so sayeth portage |
| [20:53:00] | Drognar: | Under capture card setup, for audio device, I have a choice of "(None)" and nothing else |
| [20:53:00] | laga: | mjunkiexl: USE=-"directfb" emerge -pv mythtv |
| [20:53:00] | mjunkiexl: | laga – ok |
| [20:54:00] | mjunkiexl: | [ebuild R ] media-tv/mythtv-0.18 +X +alsa (-altivec) +arts -cle266 -debug -directfb* -dvb -ieee1394 -jack -joystick -lcd +lirc +nls +nvidia +oggvorbis +opengl +oss +xv 0 kB |
| [20:54:00] | laga: | looks good to me. |
| [20:54:00] | laga: | it's your system. you gotta know which flags you want to use and which you don't. |
| [20:55:00] | Drognar: | mjunkiexl: You should rather append "media-tv/mythtv -directfb" to /etc/portage/package.use |
| [20:55:00] | mjunkiexl: | laga — I wish there was a GOOD source of USE flag documentation :( |
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| [20:55:00] | mjunkiexl: | that was COMPLETE |
| [20:55:00] | Drognar: | so it remembers next time you emerge mythtv |
| [20:55:00] | mjunkiexl: | thanks drog |
| [20:55:00] | spiderworm: | has anyone in here had a problem with the display being black and white, or at least very very very desaturated? |
| [20:56:00] | laga: | Drognar: he probably should just put it in the make.conf |
| [20:56:00] | Drognar: | laga: probably – didn;t want to 'break' anything else, though |
| [20:57:00] | spiderworm: | anybody in here using a WinTV Go? |
| [20:57:00] | mjunkiexl: | I've had my share of breaking. I did an update world and found LIRC, FireFox, MythTV were all broken. LIRC from a change of /dev/lirc0 to /dev/lirc/0 .... FireFox from an extension (had to rm -r -f ~/.mozilla/firefox) ... and MythTV evidently from DirectFB |
| [20:58:00] | mjunkiexl: | alright it's merged.. lemme fire it up |
| [20:59:00] | mjunkiexl: | HOOOOOOOORAYYYYYYYYYY |
| [20:59:00] | Drognar: | Just trying to get back to my question :) Can mythtv run without a /dev/dsp for input? |
| [21:00:00] | mjunkiexl: | Drognar — have you tried a dirty trick? (symlink) |
| [21:01:00] | Drognar: | But symlink what? I don;t have any OSS related stuff at all |
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| [21:02:00] | mjunkiexl: | Drognar – 1s |
| [21:02:00] | stoffel: | Drognar: did you try to set the audio device to ALSA:hw,0,0 in mythtv? |
| [21:02:00] | mjunkiexl: | Drognar: I have ALSA... I see a /dev/sound |
| [21:02:00] | Drognar: | I tried ALSA:default, but it didn't seem to accept it – when I go back to the setup screen, it has changed to (None) again |
| [21:03:00] | stoffel: | it's an editable field, try again and hit next after changing it |
| [21:03:00] | Drognar: | mjunkiexl: you have the snd_pcm_oss module loaded probably |
| [21:04:00] | mjunkiexl: | Drognar — you on Gentoo? |
| [21:04:00] | Drognar: | yep |
| [21:05:00] | Drognar: | stoffel: I change it, hit finish, and go back, and it has reverted back to None |
| [21:05:00] | mjunkiexl: | Drognar --- any particular reason you don't want to have OSS lying around just for Myth? |
| [21:05:00] | stoffel: | weird |
| [21:05:00] | Drognar: | More for interest sake at the moment |
| [21:05:00] | stoffel: | Drognar: did you enable alsa support during configure? |
| [21:06:00] | Drognar: | stoffel: yep, I used "-oss alsa" in my use flags (among others) – that translates to --disable-audio-oss --enable-audio-alsa |
| [21:06:00] | Drognar: | I am using ALSA:default for my output and that works fine |
| [21:06:00] | mjunkiexl: | Drognar: If ALSA has a /dev entry, you should be able to symlink it ... but I dreadfully unfamiliar with ASLA, despite me having a Sound Blaster Audigy MP3+ (emu10k1 ALSA driver) |
| [21:07:00] | spiderworm: | ok, found out that what I might need to do "fine tune the freqs" in order to fix the black-and-white tv output... how do i "fine tune the freqs"? |
| [21:07:00] | Drognar: | mjunkiexl: alsa makes /dev/snd/*, but they are different major and minor numbers from dsp, so symlinking won't help :( |
| [21:07:00] | stoffel: | Drognar: dunno then, i use snd_pcm_oss myself |
| [21:09:00] | Drognar: | visit0r: for input or output? My output works fine as ALSA:default, but for input, it won't accept an alsa device |
| [21:10:00] | Vantage: | is there a way to create chapters in dvdauthor by timecode instead of separate files? or is there a way to have nuvexport create separate files based on the timecode? |
| [21:10:00] | mjunkiexl: | Drognar :: I'd be shocked if there wasn't SOME way for ALSA to work on Myth ... OSS being deprecated for the last millenia or so ... but it's prolly dirrrtyyyyy :) |
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| [21:11:00] | Drognar: | mjunkiexl: thats why i am trying – this is a fresh install with no vestiges of oss anywhere. This is my only problem left |
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| [21:35:00] | KampfCaspar: | Hi everyone! Is there someone using SASC with mythtv here? |
| [21:36:00] | coreyt: | Can mythtv be used as a hard drive based DVD jukebox? |
| [21:37:00] | KampfCaspar: | coreyt: If you want to rip all dvds, look at mythdvd. |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | 1.2G of em |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:39:00] | coreyt: | thanks KampfCaspar what I was looking for.. I want to start off with the dvd part then add hd capability when DirectTV switches to mpeg4 and my tivo becomes obsolete. |
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| [21:40:00] | Chacabaou: | Hi! I've got sort of a feature request, if you didn't already think of that. ;) What about an option that enables the ringbuf to be filled up whenever the backend runs. This would speed up initiating LiveTV, since one doesn't have to wait the ~3 secs, till the ringbuf has enough data. (especially usefull for dvb, since it wouldn't consume much cpu if the backend would have a continuesly written buffer of ~10 MB |
| [21:40:00] | spiderworm: | im gettitng highly desaturated TV with my WinTV Go, I suspect it has something to do with the modules i've got loaded and the options im passing them, can i get help? |
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| [21:42:00] | KampfCaspar: | Chacabaou: And WHICH channel should be cached? |
| [21:43:00] | Chacabaou: | KampfCaspar: The one, that shows if the user would start LiveTV right now... default or last one, depending on the setting. |
| [21:43:00] | Chacabaou: | KampfCaspar: Well...it would be problematic for multiple frontends. |
| [21:44:00] | Chacabaou: | KampfCaspar: But the mechanism could guess quite well, which channel needs to be pre-buffered. |
| [21:44:00] | KampfCaspar: | Chacabaou: With multiple frontends; or if – as I do – I only start LiveTV to immediately change channels... |
| [21:44:00] | Chacabaou: | (since most of us probably only have one main frontend...) |
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| [21:45:00] | KampfCaspar: | And I would be happy if only I could watch my national channels at all (crypted and not yet working)... |
| [21:46:00] | coreyt: | Is a capture card a absolute or can it be added later |
| [21:46:00] | Chacabaou: | KampfCaspar: What if the backend has multiple cards? Couldn't the streams of other cards be pre-captured? |
| [21:48:00] | KampfCaspar: | Chacabaou: Of course... Theoretically you could buffer as much as your system can handle... |
| [21:48:00] | KarlosII: | absolute |
| [21:50:00] | Chacabaou: | KampfCaspar: Don't you suffer from that delay, too? |
| [21:51:00] | KampfCaspar: | Actually, I use mythtv in parallel to a dreambox (sat receiver) – as I cannot decrypt some channels on mythtv :( |
| [21:52:00] | coreyt: | bah nobody sells a WinTV-PVR-350 near me it seems, checked fry's bestbuy, compusa, and circuit city |
| [21:53:00] | Chacabaou: | KampfCaspar: So you don't use myth much for livetv? |
| [21:54:00] | KampfCaspar: | Chacabaou: I don't watch much livetv anymore... I have hardly enough time to catch up on recorded shows ;) |
| [21:55:00] | Chacabaou: | KampfCaspar: Ditto! |
| [21:56:00] | Chacabaou: | KampfCaspar: But...I do miss livetv sometimes... ;) |
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| [21:57:00] | KampfCaspar: | Chacabaou: Sometimes, ok... Like for the evening news (but those are the national channels I don't get on myth anyway) |
| [21:57:00] | Chacabaou: | KampfCaspar: Yep...that's why I thinking of some additional settop-box. |
| [21:58:00] | KampfCaspar: | Chacabaou: Have you tried vdr? |
| [21:59:00] | Chacabaou: | Nope, not yet. Is it as fast as analogue sat receivers? |
| [22:00:00] | ** Chacabaou would really appreciate it, if mythtv would also works as simple livetv-receiver...actually it does, but it's no fun at all, waiting 3 secs for every zap. ** | |
| [22:00:00] | Chacabaou: | s/works/work/ |
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| [22:01:00] | KampfCaspar: | Chacabaou: I don't know anything about analog sat – did that years ago, before cable and now DVB. |
| [22:03:00] | Chacabaou: | KampfCaspar: The point is...traditional analogue receivers switch channels in < half a second... I didn't see any pc-box doing that, yet. |
| [22:03:00] | stoffel: | xawtv does that too with my bttv card |
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| [22:04:00] | KampfCaspar: | Chacabaou: The main "speed problem" with mythtv is surely the network design... standalone solutions are generally much faster. |
| [22:06:00] | Chacabaou: | KampfCaspar: I wonder if that problem could be reduced for mythtv by disabling the ringbuf. Sounds stupid, but sometimes one really needs fast channel switching more than timeshifting. |
| [22:07:00] | KampfCaspar: | Chacabaou: I doubt that it would be that easy... But then, I didn't have a look at the source yet *blush* |
| [22:08:00] | Chacabaou: | KampfCaspar: And if there are multiple cards present, one card could be used for fast-as-lightning-livetv and the other could fill up a ringbuffer, which is only played if the use pauses. |
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| [22:08:00] | Chacabaou: | *user |
| [22:11:00] | mik3: | why do the buttons like next/prev not respond to enter |
| [22:11:00] | KampfCaspar: | Chacabaou: I totally agree with you, that this is an area with "potential" ;) |
| [22:11:00] | mik3: | only shift-enter |
| [22:11:00] | mik3: | bizarre |
| [22:12:00] | stoffel: | some bug in the fc qt packages afaik, mik3 |
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| [22:12:00] | mik3: | makes sense |
| [22:13:00] | stoffel: | doesn't happen here with debian unstable |
| [22:13:00] | Chacabaou: | KampfCaspar: Untill then, I'll probably you kaffeine for LiveTV. ;) BTW, any idea how to trigger some script-execution right before a scheduled recording of mythtv starts? |
| [22:13:00] | stoffel: | use the channel-changer option? |
| [22:14:00] | KampfCaspar: | Chacabaou: Use the entries that change channels with external scripts... |
| [22:14:00] | KampfCaspar: | stoffel: ;) |
| [22:14:00] | Chacabaou: | KampfCaspar: Does the backend _always_ change channels when a recordings starts; even if theres no need to change? |
| [22:15:00] | stoffel: | but then, mythtv might not switch channels any longer once that option is enabled |
| [22:15:00] | KampfCaspar: | Chacabaou: Must. Because I could use my DVB card for anything inbetween two recordings. |
| [22:17:00] | Chacabaou: | KampfCaspar: Aye... |
| [22:17:00] | KampfCaspar: | stoffel: might... I didn't check for that... |
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| [22:18:00] | stoffel: | neither did i |
| [22:18:00] | Chacabaou: | Another question... if I watch livetv (with mythtv itself) while a recording begins, the known popup appears... is there any way to set a default-decision to be made? |
| [22:19:00] | [shodan]: | is there some site I can get movie trailers for older movies ? |
| [22:19:00] | Chacabaou: | What if I'm out smoking and forgot to stop livetv, while a recording begins? |
| [22:19:00] | stoffel: | Chacabaou: other than to record the scheduled show? afaik not right now |
| [22:19:00] | stoffel: | Chacabaou: livetv will stop and the recording begins |
| [22:20:00] | Chacabaou: | stoffel: It does? IIRC it kept on playing livetv without recording anything. |
| [22:21:00] | Chacabaou: | Well, allright then. :) |
| [22:22:00] | stoffel: | really? i haven't seen that screen for some time, maybe it's as you say |
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| [22:26:00] | Bogus8: | should I be putting my audio into the soundcard line in or the PVR 150 audio in? |
| [22:30:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: What audio are you talking about? |
| [22:30:00] | Bogus8: | from my dish network reciever |
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| [22:32:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: Sorry, I don't know dish network... But if you're using an ivtv card, you don't have to connect audio separately.. |
| [22:32:00] | Bogus8: | well... source isnn't relevant... I'm getting no audio at all and I'm trying to make sure it's hooked up right |
| [22:32:00] | Bogus8: | I should plug it into my PVR 150 then right |
| [22:33:00] | Bogus8: | KampfCaspar: in the alsamixer this shows up as "capture" right? |
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| [22:34:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: You have a normal coax cable between the receiver and the PVR150? |
| [22:34:00] | Bogus8: | svideo |
| [22:36:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: OK, with SVideo you have to plug audio separately – into the pvr150 which encodes everything to MPEG2. |
| [22:36:00] | Bogus8: | KampfCaspar: right, but I plug it into the PVR card and not my sound card right |
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| [22:37:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: The PVR card mixes video/audio and transports everything into your pc... The soundcard is in no way affected. |
| [22:37:00] | Bogus8: | KampfCaspar: that's what I thought... |
| [22:37:00] | Bogus8: | KampfCaspar: so for the audio setup I set my audio output device to ALSA:default but now it says it can't find the mixer |
| [22:38:00] | Bogus8: | /dev/mixer |
| [22:38:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: set the mixer to "default". |
| [22:38:00] | Bogus8: | ok |
| [22:39:00] | Bogus8: | still no audio.... but no error this time |
| [22:39:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: Be careful: ALSA is ALL MUTED by default! |
| [22:39:00] | Bogus8: | I fixed that |
| [22:40:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: Unmute "master" and "pcm"... |
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| [22:40:00] | Bogus8: | done |
| [22:40:00] | Bogus8: | now, I did have to also unmute the mixer aumix(is that right) |
| [22:40:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: "unmute the mixer"? |
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| [22:41:00] | Bogus8: | well the main line |
| [22:41:00] | Bogus8: | let me look for it again |
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| [22:41:00] | Bogus8: | yeah aumix had pcm turned down or maybe VOL |
| [22:41:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: there are two different sound systems in the linux kernel: ALSA that uses alsamixer and OSS (or the oss emulation by alsa) that uses aumix. |
| [22:42:00] | Bogus8: | that's what I was just thinking |
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| [22:42:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: You use either one. |
| [22:42:00] | Bogus8: | would the real deal alsa be better? |
| [22:42:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: ALSA is newer, better and everything... But also more complicated to set up ;) |
| [22:43:00] | Bogus8: | it also seems to be more talked about and used though... I probably should use it |
| [22:43:00] | Bogus8: | how do I make linux switch to using that (Fedora core 3) |
| [22:43:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: You most probably HAVE to use it for digital audio... |
| [22:44:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: AFAIK FC3 uses ALSA... You just "don't use" OSS emulation layer. |
| [22:44:00] | Bogus8: | KampfCaspar: hmm that's strange... this is a fresh install of FC3 |
| [22:45:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: You surely have the OSS emulation of ALSA installed... This is fine for all "older" applications to keep working. |
| [22:45:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: the "base system" is ALSA. |
| [22:45:00] | Bogus8: | how do I make it switch |
| [22:46:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: There is nothing to switch... You have the possibility to use that emulation layer – just don't do it. |
| [22:46:00] | Bogus8: | ok, I didn't know I made a choice to use it |
| [22:47:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: There is none with the end-user anymore ;) |
| [22:49:00] | Bogus8: | ok I think I get it... alsamixer is working.. so I am starting to grasp this... I think |
| [22:50:00] | Drognar: | KampfCaspar: you have just said how to use alsa for output. Do you know how to use alsa for input? |
| [22:51:00] | Drognar: | KampfCaspar: ie: specify the device in mythtv-setup |
| [22:51:00] | KampfCaspar: | Drognar: What do you mean by "input" – with a bttv card? |
| [22:52:00] | Drognar: | KampfCaspar: yeah with bttv card. Set up as V4L device in mythtv-setup. I don't have a /dev/dsp on my system, so I can't specify an audio device to use for input under the 'capture card' settings |
| [22:53:00] | KampfCaspar: | Drognar: ALSA:default does not work? How did you config alsa? |
| [22:54:00] | Drognar: | I can type in ALSA:default, but If I go back to the screen, it changes back to "(None)", and recording sound does not work |
| [22:54:00] | CygnusX1: | If I open a recorded show, e, z, e then exit...if I schedule a transcode, will it remove comericals? |
| [22:54:00] | Drognar: | I compiled my kernel with alsa, and no oss emulation. Mythtv is compiled without oss, but with alsa |
| [22:54:00] | KampfCaspar: | CygnusX1: yes. |
| [22:54:00] | Bogus8: | I can't seem to slect a capture device (pressing space) in alsamixer now ? |
| [22:55:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: you don't have any sound capture device with alsa... |
| [22:55:00] | KampfCaspar: | Drognar: alsarc? |
| [22:55:00] | Bogus8: | KampfCaspar: it worked earlier... I selected video |
| [22:56:00] | CygnusX1: | KampfCaspar, Thank you |
| [22:56:00] | Drognar: | KampfCaspar: I have no /etc/asoundrc or ~/.alsarc |
| [22:57:00] | KampfCaspar: | Drognar: Does btaudio work for you? |
| [22:57:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: earlier? |
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| [22:57:00] | Bogus8: | KampfCaspar: at some point I was able to do it.. now I can't |
| [22:57:00] | Drognar: | KampfCaspar: nope |
| [22:58:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: I know the linguistic meaning – but what changed inbetween? |
| [22:58:00] | KampfCaspar: | Drognar: Sorry, I'm just now recording and cannot get into "my" setup... |
| [22:59:00] | Drognar: | KampfCaspar: also, snd-bt87x does not work for me |
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| [22:59:00] | Drognar: | KampfCaspar: do you have a /dev/dsp or /dev/sound/dsp? |
| [22:59:00] | Bogus8: | KampfCaspar: that I don't know... maybe I told the front end to start using the alsa mixer? |
| [22:59:00] | KampfCaspar: | Drognar: me? As soon as I load the OSS emulation modules, yes. |
| [23:00:00] | Drognar: | KampfCaspar: but do you use them by default? |
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| [23:00:00] | Drognar: | KampfCaspar: or do you use myth without the oss eumlation? |
| [23:00:00] | Bogus8: | KampfCaspar: stupid error on my part.. I was looking at a different view and didn't realize it |
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| [23:00:00] | xris: | Beirdo: you around? |
| [23:01:00] | KampfCaspar: | Drognar: no... But then I use only one bttv card... and I don't remember the setup strings. |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [23:01:00] | xris: | so for the recipe program... you think one wiki-keyword database, or something like /recipes/keyword, /ingredients/keyword |
| [23:01:00] | xris: | ? |
| [23:01:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: frontend and backend are independent... capture should be changed in mythtv-setup. |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | hmm, both might be nice |
| [23:01:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [23:02:00] | xris: | makes going to an unknown one a little easier.. /recipe/unknown would bring you straight to the "new recipe" page |
| [23:02:00] | Bogus8: | KampfCaspar: hmm that makes it tricky... since I don't know if my audio is getting to the back end unless I get it all working huh? |
| [23:03:00] | Drognar: | KampfCaspar: can you pls run "mysql -e 'select videodevice, cardtype, audiodevice, audioratelimit from capturecard' -p mythconverg" and let me know the output |
| [23:03:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: Whether your FRONTEND uses ALSA has nothing to do with the BACKEND recording anything... If not they use the same card and the frontend "mutes" your line in ;) |
| [23:04:00] | Bogus8: | KampfCaspar: I'm understanding that... just hadn't thought about how tricky this will be |
| [23:04:00] | KampfCaspar: | Bogus8: Mythtv is surely not the easiest choice as pvr ;) |
| [23:05:00] | Bogus8: | I realize that |
| [23:06:00] | KampfCaspar: | Drognar: Of course: ALSA:zweiline... But this is dependent on my alsarc... |
| [23:06:00] | KampfCaspar: | Sorry guys, it's midnight here and I have to work tomorrow... |
| [23:07:00] | KampfCaspar: | CU |
| [23:07:00] | Drognar: | KampfCaspar: thanks |
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| [23:10:00] | Bogus8: | I can't find any info about configuring audio capture on mythtvsetup |
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| [23:19:00] | CygnusX1: | Ok...after transcode to remove commercials and compress...nothing plays it back but Myth. Is this where nuvexport comes in? |
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| [23:19:00] | stoffel: | not quite, nuvexport is an alternative to the internal transcode option |
| [23:20:00] | jams: | yeah but if he wants something other then myth to play it.... |
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| [23:20:00] | ** warren pokes xris ** | |
| [23:22:00] | Bogus8: | I should be able to hear the audio from the PVR150 without myth running right... if I just unmute that line in the alsamixer |
| [23:25:00] | ** xris isn't here (just walking out the door) ** | |
| [23:25:00] | warren: | xris, ping me later please |
| [23:25:00] | xris: | ok |
| [23:33:00] | mechtn_: | does anyone know of an apt package besides from atrpms-kick? |
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| [23:33:00] | warren: | mechtn, xris is working on one |
| [23:33:00] | warren: | mechtn, for livna |
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| [23:45:00] | Cromz: | ok, so I have these dvd of tv shows. multi-episodes per. how to I get mythdvd to trancode more then 1 at a time? or is it possable? I set the 'number of jobs' to 3 but it's still doing them 1 at a time. |
| [23:47:00] | lucas333: | hey, does anybody know how to see what my /etc/timezone links to? |
| [23:47:00] | Cromz: | lucas333: type ls -sl /etc/timezone |
| [23:48:00] | lucas333: | hmm.. just shows up as a 101 byte file. |
| [23:48:00] | lucas333: | a /etc/localtime that is. |
| [23:49:00] | lucas333: | hmm.. turns out it was a file... thnx. |
| [23:49:00] | Cromz: | then it's not a link. what ever you set your timezone to be should it. |
| [23:50:00] | Cromz: | :) |
| [23:50:00] | lucas333: | Hurray!.. been chasing a bug for hours where realtime commflagging didn't work.. turns out my two backends are not set to the timezone, causing a two hour difference in program info, causing the program not to be found in the db.. |
| [23:51:00] | lucas333: | time for a dance. |
| [23:52:00] | Cromz: | long as it isn't a table dance.. |
| [23:54:00] | eco (identd@c-24-10-128-63.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:55:00] | rtsai1111 (~rtsai@c-24-63-70-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:55:00] | lucas333: | you should see my table dance. |
| [23:56:00] | lucas333: | my table has a nice one ;) |
| [23:56:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [23:56:00] | Beirdo: | FUCKING WINDOWS! |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | I changed the IP of an internal server... DNS has the change, nslookup sees it from the cmd.exe prompt |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | but it's still cached! |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | how the HELL do I clear that? |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | found it |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | ipconfig /flushdns |
| [23:58:00] | Cromz: | ipconfig /flushmircosoft |
| [23:58:00] | Cromz: | lol |
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