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| [00:01:00] | [Klatuu]: | yes |
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| [00:06:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [00:06:00] | Beirdo: | this shit so grows old... working late every day for 2 weeks. BLECH! |
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| [00:18:00] | xris: | Beirdo: I thought that was by choice. |
| [00:18:00] | Beirdo: | only partially |
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| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | Gotta get this crap done |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | I so hate deadlines |
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| [00:20:00] | directhex: | at least deadlines give a sense of purpose |
| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | a sense of panic you say? |
| [00:20:00] | xris: | I like being the one who sets the deadlines. :) |
| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | well, I set this one |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | but it's slid already by 2 weeks, and we've all had enough |
| [00:21:00] | darkfrog: | I made the mistake of installing myth 0.18 from the testing apt pkgs and now I've deleted it and am trying to revert. When I say "apt-get install mythtv-suite" it says I have unmet dependencies and lists a bunch of the mythtv packages (such as the frontend, backend, etc.) |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | I need it done by noon tomorrow :) |
| [00:21:00] | darkfrog: | Anyone know why it's doing this? |
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| [00:22:00] | directhex: | darkfrog, which packages are those? |
| [00:24:00] | [Klatuu]: | I have both firmware modules of the same version |
| [00:24:00] | [Klatuu]: | the audio and the encoder |
| [00:24:00] | iggy: | Beirdo: stop talking to us then |
| [00:24:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
| [00:25:00] | Beirdo: | trust me, this doesn't slow me down much when I'm in the groove |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | I think file permissions are gonna fuckin kill me. |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | we shall see |
| [00:28:00] | directhex: | chown -R 777 / |
| [00:28:00] | directhex: | sorted |
| [00:28:00] | Beirdo: | hah |
| [00:28:00] | directhex: | bah |
| [00:28:00] | directhex: | chmod, whatever |
| [00:28:00] | ** directhex sleeps ** | |
| [00:28:00] | Beirdo: | not gonna happen |
| [00:33:00] | Beirdo: | yay, bash functions rule |
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| [00:43:00] | darkfrog: | directhex, sorry buddy – I was away, still here? |
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| [00:44:00] | directhex: | nope, i've gone to bed |
| [00:44:00] | darkfrog: | oh well...thanks anyway. :) |
| [00:44:00] | directhex: | i'm not about to have a beer & go hunting for curry and/or cake |
| [00:44:00] | mchou: | ok, need help now on 150. get static picture, but have audio. |
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| [00:45:00] | mchou: | tuner type gets detected as 50. does that even sound right? |
| [00:45:00] | darkfrog: | directhex, it would seem that mythtv-themes was still at 0.18 and that's why it wouldn't upgrade |
| [00:45:00] | Agrajag-: | so anyone any ideas why when mythbackend is running idle it's making my loads 0.2–0.3? (if i stop it, they go to 0) |
| [00:46:00] | directhex: | darkfrog, is this the debian mirro linked off mythtv.org? |
| [00:48:00] | mchou: | hey four8, you around? :) |
| [00:48:00] | four8: | metaphysically |
| [00:48:00] | four8: | might have to disappear at any sec |
| [00:49:00] | four8: | type 50 is very possible on a 150 |
| [00:49:00] | Beirdo: | heh, nice answer |
| [00:49:00] | mchou: | ok, I get static pic but nice audio on 150 |
| [00:49:00] | mchou: | anything I ought to check? |
| [00:49:00] | four8: | Is your freq table right? |
| [00:49:00] | mchou: | whats no_black_magic for? |
| [00:50:00] | mchou: | yeah, I think so.... |
| [00:50:00] | four8: | not sure its needed anymore, but some stuff was getting poked that shouldn't, caused Bad Things on ntsc cards |
| [00:50:00] | four8: | us-cable? |
| [00:50:00] | [Klatuu]: | are you using the tuner or s-video? |
| [00:50:00] | mchou: | good news is m179 in same box works. |
| [00:50:00] | mchou: | tuner. |
| [00:50:00] | [Klatuu]: | my video is fixed |
| [00:51:00] | [Klatuu]: | just need better audio |
| [00:51:00] | [Klatuu]: | instead of the crackly sound |
| [00:51:00] | mchou: | heh: [Klatuu] what's your secret? |
| [00:51:00] | [Klatuu]: | ivtvctl -p 1 |
| [00:51:00] | [Klatuu]: | I was told to use that |
| [00:51:00] | darkfrog: | directhex, no, it's FC3 (based on Jarod's tutorial) |
| [00:51:00] | [Klatuu]: | for s-video |
| [00:51:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: ahh, ok. |
| [00:52:00] | four8: | Should be -p 7 for tuner on the 150 |
| [00:52:00] | [Klatuu]: | you may try playing around with that command |
| [00:52:00] | [Klatuu]: | maybe you will get video |
| [00:52:00] | four8: | double-check that you don't use the hrc freq table |
| [00:53:00] | [Klatuu]: | four8: which one of us are you talking to? |
| [00:53:00] | darkfrog: | For some reason the frontend keeps locking up when I go to do anything with recordings. |
| [00:53:00] | Mrgoose: | any idea why when i play a movie in xine when it starts the vol is all the way down? |
| [00:53:00] | [Klatuu]: | I built mythtv before I had the PVR-500 installed |
| [00:53:00] | [Klatuu]: | do I need to rebuild it for the PVR? |
| [00:53:00] | darkfrog: | Mrgoose, because you have separate settings for Myth than does anything else. |
| [00:54:00] | mchou: | why does the 150 have 2 tuners according to ivtvctl?? |
| [00:54:00] | four8: | talking to mchou |
| [00:55:00] | Cromz: | dun dun da... eveninininin fellers.. |
| [00:55:00] | mchou: | four8: ahh, this is frustrating. Static means the card is basically working, just tuner in a funk :) |
| [00:56:00] | four8: | no, you don't need to rebuild Myth for the PVR-500. Unless you built without USING_IVTV |
| [00:56:00] | four8: | (its on by default) |
| [00:57:00] | four8: | mchou, drop me a copy of your log output using that tac script, maybe I'll see something |
| [00:57:00] | mchou: | which log are you referring to? |
| [00:57:00] | mchou: | dmesg?? |
| [00:58:00] | four8: | that works too |
| [00:58:00] | four8: | there's a script on my page and on the ivtv list that yanks the needed stuff out of /var/log/messages, but dmesg's output is actually a bit cleaner |
| [00:59:00] | mchou: | Apr 21 16:35:36 mythmaster kernel: ivtv: ENC IRQ OVERFLOW: #526 Stealing a Buffer, 2 currently allocated |
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| [00:59:00] | mchou: | millions of those messages. |
| [00:59:00] | four8: | everything between === START IVTV === and STOP IVTV (or whatever it is...) |
| [00:59:00] | four8: | bad |
| [01:00:00] | darkfrog: | Okay, how about this....I'll pay the person that can help me fix my myth box $20? :) |
| [01:00:00] | mchou: | four8: yeah, I gathered that :) |
| [01:00:00] | four8: | :) |
| [01:01:00] | four8: | Not sure if that's a hardware issue (I think that happens often on some via boards) or if its related to the 2.4 kernel |
| [01:01:00] | marmoset: | four8: it happened for me with 2.6 |
| [01:01:00] | marmoset: | when I used one of the alternate schedules in hopes of beating some decent performance out of linux ;) |
| [01:02:00] | four8: | Yeah, I know it happens in 2.6 also, just not sure if its worsened by 2.4 |
| [01:02:00] | marmoset: | ah |
| [01:02:00] | ** four8 needs to be more clear sometimes... :) ** | |
| [01:03:00] | darkfrog: | Is $20 not enough to get someone to help me? :=p |
| [01:03:00] | marmoset: | darkfrog: still trying to fix the apt issue? |
| [01:03:00] | mchou: | four8: http://www.pastebin.com/274375 |
| [01:03:00] | darkfrog: | marmoset, no, actually I finally figured that out, but now that I've downgraded to the earlier version of Myth it is still having the same problems! |
| [01:04:00] | marmoset: | ah |
| [01:04:00] | marmoset: | darkfrog: I assume that you're not getting any error messages on the console or anything, it's just locked solid? |
| [01:04:00] | mchou: | four8: radio detected is weird. Card doesn't support radio :) |
| [01:04:00] | darkfrog: | marmoset, well, I can still SSH in, but CTRL+ALT+ESC doesn't even give me the kill icon. |
| [01:05:00] | four8: | hm... |
| [01:05:00] | marmoset: | darkfrog: ah, interesting. do you have xvmc enabled? |
| [01:05:00] | darkfrog: | marmoset, even after I "killall mythfrontend" it still shows it. |
| [01:05:00] | darkfrog: | xvmc? |
| [01:05:00] | mchou: | four8: line 47 is rather suspicious. |
| [01:06:00] | mchou: | maybe I ought to double check my /etc/modules.conf |
| [01:06:00] | marmoset: | darkfrog: it's an extension to X that's supposed to improve performance, but caused no end of problems for me (including lockups like what you're seeing). I *think* it's enabled/disabled in the myth general options, but I'm not sure. It shouldn't hurt to disable it, so it's worth a try. |
| [01:07:00] | four8: | mchou: looks like you're forcing the tuner to type 2 on the 150, when its actually a type 50. |
| [01:07:00] | darkfrog: | marmoset, okay, I'll check that. |
| [01:07:00] | mchou: | four8: yeah, that's some old m179 cruft :) |
| [01:07:00] | darkfrog: | marmoset, the general settings in mythfrontend or in mythsetup? |
| [01:07:00] | four8: | that'd do it |
| [01:07:00] | marmoset: | darkfrog: I don't remember :/ |
| [01:07:00] | four8: | Try 'options ivtv tuner=-1,2' |
| [01:08:00] | mchou: | yeah, my tuner setting was borked in modules.conf |
| [01:08:00] | darkfrog: | marmoset, I'm rebooting the box now – I'll figure it out when it comes back up |
| [01:08:00] | mchou: | four8: -1 means autodetect, right? |
| [01:08:00] | four8: | yeah |
| [01:08:00] | four8: | tveeprom recognizes the tuner type correctly and should set it for you |
| [01:09:00] | marmoset: | darkfrog: I'm not at my myth machine, but found something online that says it's under TV Settings/Playback |
| [01:09:00] | mchou: | four8: think I can reset tuner w/o rebooting? :) |
| [01:09:00] | darkfrog: | marmoset, thanks, I'll check that. |
| [01:09:00] | four8: | yup |
| [01:10:00] | four8: | rmmod ivtv tuner |
| [01:10:00] | four8: | modprobe ivtv |
| [01:10:00] | four8: | though these cards are sometimes a little cranky |
| [01:10:00] | mchou: | four8: bah, device or resource busy. |
| [01:11:00] | mchou: | ok, be right back after reboot :) |
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| [01:15:00] | WolfCub: | Can you guys please take a look at my post: http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/board/showthread.p . . . 96#post14196 I'm trying to get my TV tuner card to work. |
| [01:15:00] | WolfCub: | Its a Hauppage NEXUS-s 2.2 |
| [01:16:00] | mchou: | testing. |
| [01:16:00] | mchou: | anybody hear me? |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: no |
| [01:17:00] | mchou: | good :) |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | and just as I thought... |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | permissions just bit me in the ass |
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| [01:18:00] | darkfrog: | marmoset, I couldn't seem to find it |
| [01:19:00] | marmoset: | darkfrog: hmm, you may not have it installed then, was just a guess :/ |
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| [01:20:00] | darkfrog: | marmoset, okay, I just pulled up my settings table in mysql and UseXVMC is set to 0 |
| [01:22:00] | darkfrog: | I'm about to pull my hair out here. |
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| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | there they go kicking the power cord out again |
| [01:25:00] | mishehu: | or perhaps they didn't pay the bill |
| [01:25:00] | four8: | lol |
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| [01:28:00] | darkfrog: | Okay, what are problems that could cause my frontend to completely lock when I go to "Watch Recordings"? |
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| [01:30:00] | David80: | is it a bad thing if the mythbackend fails to bind to port 6543? |
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| [01:41:00] | phillip37: | hello everybody |
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| [01:43:00] | phillip37: | i have a small problem i have got my channels loaded with mythtv scan and channel editor but when i go to the watch tv in mythtv the screen goes black and after about 20 seconds it goes back to the main menu any ideas what might be wrong at all |
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| [01:46:00] | directhex: | check log files |
| [01:46:00] | directhex: | sounds like something i'm fighting with |
| [01:47:00] | directhex: | but too sleepy to go into details |
| [01:47:00] | phillip37: | what tv card do you have |
| [01:47:00] | phillip37: | i have a visionplus dvb-t high deffinition |
| [01:47:00] | directhex: | nova-t |
| [01:48:00] | phillip37: | i wish i had anything but my visionplus tv card |
| [01:53:00] | Agrajag-: | i have two of them |
| [01:53:00] | Agrajag-: | they work for me :) |
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| [01:54:00] | phillip37: | i wish they would work for me |
| [01:55:00] | Agrajag-: | what do you see from the backend during that 20 seconds? |
| [01:55:00] | phillip37: | i have the channels loaded but when i go to watch tv the screen is blank for 30 seconds then returns to the menu |
| [01:55:00] | Agrajag-: | (can you watch from the card in mplayer?) |
| [01:55:00] | phillip37: | what is mplayer |
| [01:55:00] | phillip37: | this is a mythtv box |
| [01:56:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah.. but to test if you're actaulyl getting data from the card, you can try using mplayer |
| [01:56:00] | phillip37: | but how and where can i test it |
| [01:56:00] | Agrajag-: | check what the backend is saying during that 20 seconds. my bet is it's saying "no data from card" or something |
| [01:57:00] | phillip37: | do i type mplayer in somewhere do i |
| [01:57:00] | Agrajag-: | yes.. if you have it installed |
| [01:57:00] | phillip37: | how do i know if i have installed it |
| [01:57:00] | phillip37: | does it come standard with r5a12 |
| [01:58:00] | phillip37: | thats knoppmyth r5a12 |
| [01:58:00] | Agrajag-: | i have no idea what r5a12 is.. just type 'mplayer' in a terminal |
| [01:58:00] | Agrajag-: | oh. kinda doubt it. |
| [01:58:00] | phillip37: | ok i will try |
| [01:58:00] | phillip37: | bummer |
| [01:58:00] | marmoset: | I think mplayer comes with knoppmyth |
| [01:59:00] | phillip37: | so do i just type mplayer in an xterm window |
| [01:59:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah.. |
| [02:00:00] | phillip37: | ok give me a minute or so i have to change the monitor to that computer ok |
| [02:01:00] | Agrajag-: | i kinda doubt knoppmyth |
| [02:01:00] | Agrajag-: | has support for this card |
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| [02:04:00] | David80: | is it a bad thing if the mythbackend fails to bind to port 6543? |
| [02:05:00] | marmoset: | David80: the only reason I can think of that it would do that is if there's another backend running already |
| [02:05:00] | four8: | yes, its a bad thing |
| [02:05:00] | David80: | why? |
| [02:05:00] | David80: | everything seems to be running fine |
| [02:05:00] | Agrajag-: | you've got a backend running already then |
| [02:05:00] | marmoset: | David80: you must have a second backend running then |
| [02:05:00] | four8: | That's probably because you have another copy running then |
| [02:05:00] | Agrajag-: | and you're trying to start another |
| [02:05:00] | David80: | other than the video not being quite as good as I want it, but Im working on that |
| [02:06:00] | David80: | what command can I run to check and see if something has opened that port already? |
| [02:06:00] | four8: | netstat -ntap | grep 6543 |
| [02:06:00] | four8: | or telnet localhost 6543 |
| [02:07:00] | David80: | looks like mythbackend is listening on that port already |
| [02:07:00] | David80: | but its listening on IP 0.0.0.0, think thats cause I dont have an IP on that machine right now? |
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| [02:07:00] | Agrajag-: | no |
| [02:07:00] | Agrajag-: | listening on all interfaces |
| [02:08:00] | David80: | ok, Im used to *:6543 for all |
| [02:08:00] | David80: | sorry, little new to linux |
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| [02:08:00] | David80: | where do I add filters so they apply to all channels? |
| [02:08:00] | David80: | I found where I can do them on a per channel basis |
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| [02:11:00] | four8: | frontend setup -> tv settings -> playback, I believe |
| [02:11:00] | four8: | same page you set your deint filter |
| [02:12:00] | David80: | ok, thanks; somehow missed that before |
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| [02:14:00] | cinix: | I can't start mythtv-setup without it crashing, is there a way to adjust the timezone I'm in? |
| [02:14:00] | cinix: | my listings are 1 hour off |
| [02:15:00] | darkfrog: | cinix, you updated qt didn't you? |
| [02:16:00] | cinix: | :-| |
| [02:16:00] | darkfrog: | cinix, there's a bug in mythtv with the newest version of qt |
| [02:16:00] | cinix: | I don't remember. |
| [02:17:00] | four8: | said bug shouldn't crash mythtv-setup tho |
| [02:17:00] | darkfrog: | cinix, get an update to myth and it should fix it. |
| [02:17:00] | darkfrog: | cinix, daylight savings time screwed up your time by an hour? |
| [02:17:00] | cinix: | I run mythtv backend as a user mythtv, and when I run mythtv-setup as that user it crashes |
| [02:18:00] | cinix: | if I run it as me, then it runs fine |
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| [02:18:00] | cinix: | everything works though, all I really want to do is fix the time. |
| [02:18:00] | cinix: | my clock is correct on the desktop |
| [02:18:00] | darkfrog: | cinix, you probably need to chown a directory |
| [02:18:00] | darkfrog: | cinix, yeah, are you running Fedora? |
| [02:18:00] | cinix: | Debian |
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| [02:18:00] | four8: | there should be some output on the console from the failed launch, should have a hint in it |
| [02:18:00] | darkfrog: | cinix, check for an update to myth and it should fix your time problem. |
| [02:19:00] | cinix: | No output, it starts to load, then quits out with Joystick was enabled |
| [02:19:00] | mchou: | four8: tuner setting doesn't work at all fir me. |
| [02:19:00] | cinix: | it could be the permissions maybe, i'll check that |
| [02:19:00] | mchou: | for* |
| [02:19:00] | four8: | mchou: grab the latest log dump and I'll take a look at it |
| [02:20:00] | four8: | have you tried also setting the tuner type explicitly to 50? |
| [02:20:00] | lashkar: | cinix: did you compile mythtv yourself or get a deb package? |
| [02:20:00] | cinix: | It's a deb package |
| [02:20:00] | cinix: | i'll check for updates on that too |
| [02:20:00] | cinix: | wasn'ta permission problem |
| [02:21:00] | cinix: | err but I haven't upgraded it, so I don't think that would be the problem. ah |
| [02:21:00] | lashkar: | is it from deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv ? |
| [02:21:00] | cinix: | yep |
| [02:21:00] | cinix: | that's the one |
| [02:22:00] | lashkar: | it should make the mythtv user for you and they should be able to run the setup program...i know i can |
| [02:22:00] | lashkar: | try running mythtv-setup &> errors |
| [02:22:00] | lashkar: | then look at the errors file it will create |
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| [02:23:00] | mchou: | four8: http://www.pastebin.com/274404 |
| [02:23:00] | lashkar: | my setup has other issues, but i dont have the oen you are describing...using a tuner 47(pvr350) tho |
| [02:23:00] | mchou: | four8: yeah. |
| [02:23:00] | mchou: | four8: line 52. |
| [02:23:00] | cinix: | wtf |
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| [02:24:00] | cinix: | it just started up and might be working |
| [02:24:00] | four8: | Ah, I think I know what's up there. |
| [02:24:00] | cinix: | when I tried to send the output to the errors file |
| [02:24:00] | lashkar: | hmm, there 's a line with tuner: tuner type not set |
| [02:24:00] | cinix: | i don't believe it, going to try it again |
| [02:24:00] | four8: | mchou: I'm guessing the stock tuner module is actually getting loaded |
| [02:24:00] | four8: | modinfo tuner |
| [02:24:00] | four8: | get that one out of the way so the ivtv one gets used |
| [02:25:00] | lashkar: | i had gotten that error when the kernel wasnt update from http://www.ivtv.tv/releases/ |
| [02:25:00] | mchou: | four8: sorry, took the card out of my ssyem already |
| [02:25:00] | four8: | 99.999% chance your in-kernel tuner doesn't know about type 50 |
| [02:25:00] | cinix: | I run mythtv-setup &> /home/mythtv/errors and it works :) |
| [02:25:00] | cinix: | but be the ampersand, what's up with that? |
| [02:25:00] | cinix: | I know it detaches it from the console, but why would that fix it |
| [02:25:00] | lashkar: | i had to patch 2.4.27.2 in debian unstable to see type 47...it was just the header file that you can find at the link i had above |
| [02:25:00] | four8: | Not in this case it doesn't |
| [02:25:00] | lashkar: | the &> redirects stderr to a file |
| [02:26:00] | four8: | cinix: the &> redirects stderr to the file |
| [02:26:00] | four8: | heh |
| [02:26:00] | mchou: | four8: so I look for tuner.o in my /lib/modules tree and remove "old" tuner.o? |
| [02:26:00] | cinix: | oh well |
| [02:26:00] | cinix: | that makes no sense to me |
| [02:26:00] | four8: | mchou: yup |
| [02:26:00] | David80: | where can I find the instructions on setting up the custom filters? |
| [02:27:00] | cinix: | if I redirect stderr to a file instead of the console, it works |
| [02:27:00] | ** cinix 's head explodes ** | |
| [02:27:00] | lashkar: | thats...very odd... |
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| [02:27:00] | four8: | mchou: should be /lib/modules/2.4.25–13mdk/kernel/drivers/media/video/tuner.o |
| [02:27:00] | cinix: | I've tested it twice both ways |
| [02:27:00] | mchou: | four8: meaning thats the "new" and correct one. |
| [02:27:00] | four8: | yank that old tuner module (or just rename it), then depmod, then reload tuner |
| [02:27:00] | darkfrog: | I need a professional MythTV/Fedora user to pay to fix my mythbox. :o |
| [02:27:00] | four8: | no, that's the old one |
| [02:27:00] | cinix: | I tried running it inside of gdb hoping to get a hint of whats run, but all I got was main.cpp does not exist, which means nothing to me. |
| [02:28:00] | cinix: | run/wrong |
| [02:28:00] | four8: | new should be in /lib/modules/2.4.25–13mdk/ivtv/tuner.o |
| [02:28:00] | four8: | darkfrog: okay, I'll bite, what's wrong with your box? |
| [02:28:00] | ** darkfrog wonders if anyone would like to make a quick $20 by helping me fix my mythbox? ** | |
| [02:29:00] | cinix: | it's very intermittent, I don't know why it starts and stops working. but good enough for now if I can fix my clock. no way its &> |
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| [02:29:00] | darkfrog: | four8, it's locking up X when I go to watch recorded shows |
| [02:30:00] | four8: | not good |
| [02:30:00] | darkfrog: | my thoughts exactly. :o |
| [02:30:00] | four8: | Has it always done that, or did it just start? |
| [02:30:00] | darkfrog: | no, I did a "apt-get dist-upgrade" using at-testing :o |
| [02:30:00] | four8: | graphics card? |
| [02:30:00] | darkfrog: | now it is doing it |
| [02:30:00] | mchou: | four8: when I build ivtv does tuner.o get built??? |
| [02:30:00] | darkfrog: | GeForce2 |
| [02:31:00] | mchou: | four8: cause it's not showing up in my ivtv source tree. |
| [02:31:00] | four8: | mchou: you know, I think it might not anymore, unless you explicitly build it |
| [02:31:00] | mchou: | four8: ahh! |
| [02:31:00] | four8: | check Makefile |
| [02:31:00] | four8: | you'll still have to get the in-kernel one out of the way |
| [02:32:00] | four8: | I do seem to recall Tyler Trafford making a change to disable building the tuner module by default |
| [02:32:00] | mchou: | four8: makes semse now :) |
| [02:32:00] | mchou: | sense* |
| [02:33:00] | mchou: | yeah, I've got more hope for this thing yet :) |
| [02:34:00] | mchou: | four8: so I just add tuner.o to OBJ on make file, right? |
| [02:34:00] | mchou: | in Makefile* |
| [02:34:00] | four8: | yup |
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| [02:37:00] | mchou: | oh crap. |
| [02:37:00] | four8: | uh oh |
| [02:37:00] | mchou: | tuner.c:17:29: media/audiochip.h: No such file or directory |
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| [02:37:00] | four8: | hm... |
| [02:38:00] | mchou: | looks like #include path is all screwed up. |
| [02:39:00] | four8: | probably got changed to point at an in-kernel one you don't have |
| [02:39:00] | four8: | should be included in the ivtv source, just point at that one |
| [02:39:00] | mchou: | yeah, done |
| [02:40:00] | mchou: | four8: no joy |
| [02:40:00] | mchou: | tuner.c:915: error: `V4L2_STD_ATSC' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| [02:43:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody have any issues changing keybindings in mythweb? i type in my changes, but it never makes them! |
| [02:43:00] | mchou: | where is `V4L2_STD_ATSC' declared? |
| [02:43:00] | abarbaccia: | it can retrieve info from the DB, but it doesn't seem to be able to write to it |
| [02:43:00] | four8: | ah, that's some new stuff for the HD-2000 |
| [02:43:00] | four8: | Its somewhere in newer v4l snaps, don't recall exactly |
| [02:44:00] | mchou: | four8: damn, so close and yet so far. |
| [02:44:00] | four8: | You should be able to hack around it by disabling some stuff... |
| [02:45:00] | four8: | one sec |
| [02:45:00] | mchou: | I could disable that whole case statement around line 915 :) |
| [02:46:00] | mchou: | but that ATSC stuff could be elsewhere too. |
| [02:46:00] | four8: | I'm gonna grab a tarball and take a peep |
| [02:46:00] | mchou: | four8: thx :) |
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| [02:52:00] | mchou: | four8: if I #ifdef that part out I get error on line 1340. |
| [02:52:00] | mchou: | I2C_DEVNAME macro probably not defined. |
| [02:57:00] | riksta: | mchou: !! |
| [02:57:00] | riksta: | found my prob |
| [02:57:00] | riksta: | CPU |
| [02:57:00] | riksta: | FUCKED |
| [02:57:00] | riksta: | got another XP in here and everythin workin sweet |
| [02:57:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [02:58:00] | mchou: | serves ya right for overclocking. |
| [02:58:00] | riksta: | thank fuck |
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| [02:58:00] | riksta: | you :) |
| [02:58:00] | riksta: | i didnt mean to |
| [02:58:00] | riksta: | i never knew it ran at 166, someone told me 200 |
| [02:59:00] | mchou: | and you never bothered to look up the specs. |
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| [02:59:00] | riksta: | nope |
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| [02:59:00] | riksta: | man...i've jus been out |
| [02:59:00] | riksta: | i am trashed |
| [02:59:00] | mchou: | well, processors are cheap these days. |
| [02:59:00] | riksta: | don't start talkin geek speek |
| [02:59:00] | mchou: | get another one. |
| [03:00:00] | riksta: | i dont need to |
| [03:00:00] | riksta: | i put mine in my flat mates windows pc |
| [03:00:00] | riksta: | and it runs fine |
| [03:00:00] | riksta: | so he said he'll swap |
| [03:00:00] | riksta: | hahaha :) |
| [03:00:00] | mchou: | I'd hate to be your friend. |
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| [03:00:00] | riksta: | who say's he's my friend? |
| [03:00:00] | mchou: | with friends like you he won't need enemies. |
| [03:01:00] | mchou: | flatmate, whatever. |
| [03:01:00] | riksta: | he's a prick |
| [03:01:00] | mchou: | and so, that means you're justified in screwing him, right? |
| [03:01:00] | riksta: | no i just said |
| [03:01:00] | riksta: | try it in your box for a few days |
| [03:02:00] | stang69: | help! I am working through Jarods guide to set up my first myth box. New P4 system built wiht a Asus MB and a pvr150. all the steps went fine until i did mythsetup. the first screen came up and when i hit space or return it just sat there. |
| [03:02:00] | riksta: | if nothing goes wrong it might be something else |
| [03:02:00] | riksta: | he goes |
| [03:02:00] | riksta: | yeah thats cool....ill see and if its ok ill do you a swap |
| [03:02:00] | mchou: | riksta: and when his disk gets trashed who is responsible? |
| [03:02:00] | mchou: | like his data.... |
| [03:03:00] | riksta: | well considering his laptop comes in a week or so |
| [03:03:00] | riksta: | i dont think he cares |
| [03:03:00] | mchou: | there are wide ranging implications he might not be aware of, but you should know better. |
| [03:03:00] | riksta: | his parents pay for everything |
| [03:03:00] | riksta: | they'll just buy him new shit |
| [03:04:00] | mchou: | so I ask the question again: that gives you the moral justification to screw him over? |
| [03:04:00] | stang69: | how do i start the install setup for mysql over |
| [03:04:00] | riksta: | you know nothing about the guy |
| [03:04:00] | mchou: | no I dont. But I dont think I need to in this case. |
| [03:04:00] | four8: | mchou: I'll have to poke the tuner code some more tomorrow, I gotta get out of here, off to the cage... |
| [03:04:00] | riksta: | this is the guy that has dropped out of uni courses 3 times, who;s wasted over £4000 of tax payers money being funded to do courses at uni and leaving them....when his parents can afford to pay the entire thing |
| [03:05:00] | mchou: | four8: thx. I just worked around it :) |
| [03:05:00] | riksta: | yet some of my friends have to work all night shifts and shit to pay for their fees |
| [03:05:00] | riksta: | and work hard etc |
| [03:05:00] | riksta: | there's no justice....so do you think i care about screwing him over? |
| [03:05:00] | four8: | ah, cool |
| [03:05:00] | mchou: | riksta: right. |
| [03:05:00] | riksta: | if it was anyone else...then yeah |
| [03:05:00] | four8: | in that case, I'm outta here and I won't worry about it! |
| [03:05:00] | four8: | hope it works... :) |
| [03:06:00] | mchou: | riksta: reveals quite a bit about your morals. |
| [03:06:00] | riksta: | oh well |
| [03:06:00] | riksta: | you aren;t to judge |
| [03:06:00] | riksta: | you know nothing about him |
| [03:06:00] | mchou: | four8: probably wont, and panic my kernel :) |
| [03:06:00] | mchou: | four8: thx for all the help though. |
| [03:06:00] | mchou: | riksta: I've said my piece. |
| [03:06:00] | riksta: | he owed me £1500 for about 1 year when he said he'd pay me back, he used to maon that he had no money to pay me, yet he'd come back from designer shops with a £200 pair of jeans and shit |
| [03:07:00] | riksta: | when i had to sit an eat beans out of a can because i couldnt afford food |
| [03:07:00] | riksta: | cuz i leant him money to pay his rent |
| [03:07:00] | riksta: | yeah...really fiar |
| [03:07:00] | riksta: | so basicall...you know nothing about him :) |
| [03:07:00] | four8: | mchou: hehe... Have fun w/the IPs! |
| [03:07:00] | mchou: | riksta: you rationalize it in whatever way you want, no skin off my back. |
| [03:07:00] | four8: | er, KPs |
| [03:07:00] | riksta: | not really any off mine |
| [03:07:00] | riksta: | i already told him that if it fucks uop |
| [03:08:00] | riksta: | ill buy a new one |
| [03:08:00] | riksta: | so i dunno what the prob is :P |
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| [03:10:00] | mchou: | riksta: the problem is is you should just go by a new one and be done with it. |
| [03:10:00] | riksta: | if it works in his comp fine...then i don't need to |
| [03:10:00] | mchou: | there is no need to expose someone else to risk. |
| [03:10:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [03:10:00] | mchou: | yeah, whatever. |
| [03:10:00] | riksta: | ifhe gets problems...then fine |
| [03:10:00] | riksta: | anyway im off to sleep |
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| [03:13:00] | stang69: | can sombody help a newbe with a myth install problem? |
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| [03:15:00] | Beirdo: | OK, that's one loooong day over |
| [03:15:00] | Beirdo: | I'm goin home |
| [03:15:00] | Beirdo: | fuckin 11h day |
| [03:15:00] | Beirdo: | blech |
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| [03:15:00] | Beirdo: | I'll be back on shorly |
| [03:16:00] | Beirdo: | shortly even |
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| [03:25:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys – in mythweb, why would it not allow me to change the values of the keybindings – i have the correct files specified and names of the db's – i was wondering if any of you devs would have any incite into this problem |
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| [03:45:00] | itsame: | anyone have any ideas...I just upgraded to Alsa 1.0.8 cuz i wuz getting a weird sound skipping...now alsamixer shows just 0 on the PCM and Master and they are one/off only |
| [03:45:00] | itsame: | on/off |
| [03:45:00] | itsame: | So i get no sound |
| [03:46:00] | itsame: | Also mythweather map is grabbing like 4 animated maps but the last it shows unavailable |
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| [04:12:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys- each time i make a soft link in /dev named dvd, pointing to /dev/hdb – fc deletes it after i reboot – any ideas as to why and how to fix this? |
| [04:12:00] | Ralph: | does fc use udev |
| [04:12:00] | abarbaccia: | yes |
| [04:13:00] | Ralph: | ls |
| [04:13:00] | abarbaccia: | what do you mean |
| [04:13:00] | Ralph: | accident |
| [04:13:00] | Ralph: | sloppy window focus ;_ |
| [04:14:00] | Ralph: | ;) |
| [04:14:00] | Ralph: | I'm running LFS, using udev |
| [04:15:00] | abarbaccia: | do you know how to help me out? |
| [04:15:00] | Ralph: | I have a rule that I created to create a symlink during bootup |
| [04:16:00] | abarbaccia: | REALLY? how would i go about doing that? |
| [04:16:00] | Ralph: | what's in your rules.d dir |
| [04:16:00] | abarbaccia: | because you need to be root to make the link |
| [04:16:00] | Ralph: | mine is located at /etc/udev/rules.d |
| [04:16:00] | abarbaccia: | nothing |
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| [04:17:00] | Ralph: | where are your udev rules located |
| [04:18:00] | abarbaccia: | same spot |
| [04:18:00] | abarbaccia: | etc/udev/rules.d |
| [04:18:00] | abarbaccia: | what should go in there |
| [04:18:00] | Ralph: | I have a file called 24-dvd.rules |
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| [04:18:00] | Ralph: | this is the contents of 24-dvd.rules |
| [04:19:00] | Ralph: | # Create a /dev/dvd symlink |
| [04:19:00] | Ralph: | |
| [04:19:00] | Ralph: | KERNEL="/dev/hdd", SYMLINK="dvd" |
| [04:19:00] | Ralph: | obviously you'll have to change it to point to your dvd |
| [04:19:00] | Ralph: | that's it |
| [04:19:00] | abarbaccia: | can i just put that in rules.d |
| [04:19:00] | Ralph: | /etc/udev/rules.d$ ls |
| [04:19:00] | Ralph: | 24-dvd.rules 25-lfs.rules 50-udev.rules |
| [04:19:00] | Ralph: | that's where mine is |
| [04:21:00] | abarbaccia: | alright – Ralph lemme check how we did |
| [04:21:00] | abarbaccia: | thanks brotha |
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| [04:31:00] | abarbaccia: | Ralph, your the man, a minor change we made – it wasnt /dev/hdb it was just hdb – but thank you so much! |
| [04:31:00] | Ralph: | what's the word abarbaccia |
| [04:32:00] | Ralph: | np |
| [04:32:00] | Ralph: | I just did this today as a matter of fact ;) |
| [04:32:00] | abarbaccia: | lol – welll, i'm glad you were here! |
| [04:32:00] | abarbaccia: | by any chance do you use nuv2disk? |
| [04:33:00] | Ralph: | nope |
| [04:33:00] | abarbaccia: | burn nuv files to dvd in any wyas? |
| [04:33:00] | Ralph: | I'm still new to mythtv and haven't explored all of it yet |
| [04:33:00] | Ralph: | I installed knoppmyth and got it working with my pvr 500 and did a howto |
| [04:34:00] | abarbaccia: | yea, i got a PVR150 |
| [04:34:00] | abarbaccia: | and the remote is a pain in the ass because the native lirc wasnt working for me |
| [04:34:00] | Ralph: | the last couple days I've been messing with compiling 0.18 on my LFS |
| [04:34:00] | abarbaccia: | i didn't really like knoppmyth |
| [04:34:00] | Ralph: | it has some good points and bad |
| [04:35:00] | abarbaccia: | yes indeed – like any distro |
| [04:35:00] | Ralph: | it's relatively easy from the stand point of all dependancies are met and you just need to configure mythtv for your particular capture card |
| [04:36:00] | Ralph: | I like to compile everything from source optimized for my cpu |
| [04:36:00] | Ralph: | but apt-get install was nice and quick |
| [04:36:00] | abarbaccia: | yea – there is definatly somethign to be said about apt-get |
| [04:37:00] | Ralph: | I don't trust packages managers like that tho |
| [04:37:00] | Ralph: | going back to when I used swaret with slackware |
| [04:37:00] | Ralph: | but then again that's when I first starting using linux |
| [04:38:00] | Ralph: | I installed something with swaret I shouldn't have and rendered slackware unusable |
| [04:39:00] | Ralph: | and I don't even remember what it was |
| [04:39:00] | Ralph: | so it was really user error |
| [04:39:00] | Ralph: | but I've been leary with package managers ever since |
| [04:41:00] | [Klatuu]: | bleah |
| [04:41:00] | [Klatuu]: | I have to figure out my sound problem now |
| [04:41:00] | [Klatuu]: | then find a directv channel changer |
| [04:41:00] | [Klatuu]: | and then find a good .lircrc for my Snapstream Firefly |
| [04:41:00] | [Klatuu]: | then all will be good |
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| [04:42:00] | [Klatuu]: | so much to do |
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| [04:43:00] | DigDug: | Is anyone here using an USB-UIRT? For the life of me I can't find acurrentpatch for lirc 0.7.1 that will support it. There are patches for 0.7.0pre7, but I can't find that version for download anywhere. |
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| [04:44:00] | DigDug: | Man, I did crap research before I bought my MythTV gear, first I get stuck with a PVR-250 (roslyn) card that is barely supported... now this. |
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| [04:46:00] | jams: | with later kerneles you can use the uirt driver for the usb-uirt |
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| [04:57:00] | DigDug: | THe kernel part works fine as far as I can tell. It is lirc that doesn't like it. |
| [04:57:00] | DigDug: | I get /dev/ttyUSB0 |
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| [04:59:00] | jams: | so make a link from /dev/lirc to /dev/ttyUSB0 and use the normal uirt driver |
| [04:59:00] | jams: | worked fine for me |
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| [05:00:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys – anybody here use nuvexport? |
| [05:01:00] | DigDug: | What is the normal uirt driver? UIRT2? |
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| [05:03:00] | DigDug: | /dev/lirc is linked to /dev/ttyUSB0 and lircd says it couldn't find a UIRT2 device |
| [05:04:00] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: you around? |
| [05:04:00] | jams: | so try the other one |
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| [05:05:00] | DigDug: | The recieve only version? What other one? |
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| [05:05:00] | jams: | yeah that one |
| [05:05:00] | DigDug: | I need to transmit |
| [05:06:00] | jams: | then I have no idea |
| [05:06:00] | DigDug: | You don't transmit with the usb-uirt? |
| [05:06:00] | jams: | don't even know if that old patch will transmit |
| [05:06:00] | jams: | nope |
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| [05:08:00] | DigDug: | Damn it. What a waste of money |
| [05:08:00] | DigDug: | I could hvae gotten just a reiver for like $9 |
| [05:08:00] | mchou: | DigDug: from where? |
| [05:09:00] | DigDug: | I got a packbell remote AND reiever (busted it) for $15 |
| [05:09:00] | DigDug: | That was a while ago. |
| [05:09:00] | mchou: | that's not a bad deal..... |
| [05:10:00] | mchou: | and where to get rx for $9?? |
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| [05:10:00] | GotD0t: | i bought the packbell remote and receiver... threw out the remote and used a universal remote with like a million buttons that i found at best buy |
| [05:10:00] | DigDug: | Ok, $15 with a free remote :) |
| [05:10:00] | DigDug: | not $9 |
| [05:11:00] | mchou: | you guys know (trans/re)ceiver modules are cheap to make right? |
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| [05:12:00] | intrade: | anyone got lirc going? |
| [05:12:00] | mchou: | like <$5 (provided you know what you're doing) |
| [05:12:00] | mchou: | gets expesive if you dont :) |
| [05:12:00] | mchou: | expensive* |
| [05:12:00] | DigDug: | I tried making one but the transmitter didn't work right. |
| [05:13:00] | DigDug: | Pain in the butt because I don't have anyplace to do that kind of work. |
| [05:13:00] | mchou: | huh?? a desk and a soldering iron :) |
| [05:15:00] | DigDug: | I suck at soldering and it gets more complicated if you want USB. |
| [05:15:00] | DigDug: | :-P |
| [05:16:00] | mchou: | nah, usb aint complicated. |
| [05:17:00] | DigDug: | Maybe i shgould make my own capture card too, this pvr-250 roslyn thing is flaky... the drivers anyway. |
| [05:17:00] | mchou: | exactly :) |
| [05:18:00] | mchou: | bout a pvr 150 today retail for $60 AR. |
| [05:18:00] | mchou: | bought* |
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| [05:18:00] | mchou: | still hacking on driver to make it work |
| [05:18:00] | DigDug: | On top of all that, I can't get nupexport to convert anything. Just sits there at "0 or xxxx" frames chugging away for a few minuts then leaves me with nothing. |
| [05:19:00] | DigDug: | 0 of xxx |
| [05:19:00] | DigDug: | not even an error |
| [05:19:00] | mchou: | kormoc: you buy that 150 at circuit city xris told you about? |
| [05:19:00] | kormoc: | nope |
| [05:19:00] | mchou: | kormoc: why, holding out for 500? :) |
| [05:19:00] | kormoc: | heh |
| [05:20:00] | kormoc: | more waiting for my roommate to get here and help with the bills :) |
| [05:20:00] | mchou: | kormoc: ahh.... |
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| [05:20:00] | mchou: | makes sense. |
| [05:20:00] | Loto-: | is there a way to make mythweb use an older protocol version? |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | kormoc: I went & got one. nice card. |
| [05:21:00] | kormoc: | install a older v Loto- |
| [05:21:00] | kormoc: | mchou, yeah? nice |
| [05:21:00] | Loto-: | im trying to get a version that has a major bug fixed |
| [05:21:00] | Loto-: | (updating the details of a recording schedual doesnt work) |
| [05:22:00] | mchou: | kormoc: comes with irblaster, but looks kinda flimsy. |
| [05:22:00] | kormoc: | Loto-, afaik, the wythweb v is hard coded to the myth protocal v |
| [05:22:00] | mchou: | the irblaster, that is. |
| [05:22:00] | Loto-: | k, ill have to find it and edit the variable |
| [05:22:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [05:22:00] | kormoc: | hows the remote? |
| [05:23:00] | mchou: | remote looks cheap too (havent taken it out of the package) |
| [05:23:00] | mchou: | lots of buttons though. |
| [05:25:00] | [Klatuu]: | the more buttons the merrier |
| [05:25:00] | [Klatuu]: | I like my firefly |
| [05:25:00] | mchou: | the docs say that the receiver cant get be used with your tv remote...... |
| [05:25:00] | mchou: | which is rather silly, in my opinion. |
| [05:25:00] | mchou: | I was hoping a universal remote would work with it. |
| [05:26:00] | abarbaccia: | hey all – i'm having nuv2disc errors – it says its transcoding my files but it doesnt because it finishes in 2 seconds nad they don't show up – any ideas on how to fix this? |
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| [05:27:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody here use nuv2disc |
| [05:27:00] | laga: | look at the debug messages in the log |
| [05:28:00] | abarbaccia: | laga, i can't find the logs – and the ones i did find in /dvdwizard/log – said they all completed and fit on a CD, now i know that isn't true for some of them |
| [05:28:00] | abarbaccia: | especially since they finished in like 2 seconds |
| [05:29:00] | abarbaccia: | laga, i think its not finding the files because look at this in the log – there is no name: DVD – USING DVD mode for nuvexport 04/21 03:10:38 AM |
| [05:29:00] | abarbaccia: | Transcode of complete 04/21 03:11:08 AM |
| [05:30:00] | abarbaccia: | thats 1:30 for a file thats significantly large |
| [05:32:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mchou, here now but not for long. |
| [05:32:00] | mchou: | hi Captain_Murdoch .... |
| [05:33:00] | abarbaccia: | laga ? |
| [05:33:00] | mchou: | so with latest cvs we should have "old" commercial behavior |
| [05:33:00] | mchou: | right? |
| [05:34:00] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: commercial detection, that is. |
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| [05:35:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | should be close I believe. I think the blank vs black might require you to turn on strict though. |
| [05:35:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | is it still hosed? |
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| [05:35:00] | mchou: | allright. probably get to it tomorrow. |
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| [05:36:00] | mchou: | nono, just asking b4 I get cvs |
| [05:37:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I need to commit another bugfix that appears to affect remote realtime flagging, but should have that in in a few minutes after I test something. |
| [05:37:00] | mchou: | all right, good to know. |
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| [05:42:00] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: realtime flagiing is only for SW encode, right? |
| [05:42:00] | mchou: | flagging* |
| [05:42:00] | mchou: | or does it apply to ivtv type recordings too? |
| [05:43:00] | rpete: | can't possibly, can it? |
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| [05:43:00] | itsame: | anyone around..that can tell me how many images there mythweather pulls down |
| [05:43:00] | itsame: | from weather channel |
| [05:44:00] | mchou: | itsame: I think it's genearally 3, based on memory |
| [05:44:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | the new semi-realtime stuff actually starts mythcommflag right after the recording starts, so it "plays" along during the recording just as you would if you were watching it. so it's semi-realtime, it will finish flagging soon after the recording finishes if your cpu is fast enough to record and play/detect at the same time. |
| [05:44:00] | itsame: | mine is pulls 6 |
| [05:44:00] | itsame: | but weatherchannel only has 5 |
| [05:44:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I have 3 M179 cards using ivtv and they will ~realtime flag on my P3–700 master backend while recording 3 simultaneous shows. |
| [05:44:00] | itsame: | so i get a blank page |
| [05:45:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | itsame: doesn't sound like 0.18 or current CVS. I think that was fixed a while ago. |
| [05:45:00] | itsame: | src looks like there is a variable in LoadImages() |
| [05:45:00] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: heh, that probably wont work on my p2 450 :) |
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| [05:45:00] | itsame: | but don't know where the heck it gets |
| [05:45:00] | itsame: | m_imagecount |
| [05:45:00] | itsame: | from |
| [05:45:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mchou: depends on how many ivtv cards you have. |
| [05:46:00] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: 2xm179 with maybe 150 going in |
| [05:46:00] | Cromz: | ivtv grrrr :> |
| [05:46:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, yeah, probably not then, but it will do it's best to finish as soon as possible rather than waiting to start when the recording ends. |
| [05:46:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | itsame: read my message above. |
| [05:47:00] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: Can you limit the number of realtime flagging? |
| [05:47:00] | mchou: | threads* |
| [05:47:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | it obeys the normal job limit so yes. |
| [05:47:00] | rpete: | how do you enable semi-realtime flagging? |
| [05:47:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | it is the same flagging, it is just allowed to start when the recording starts rather than having to wait till it finishes. |
| [05:48:00] | Cromz: | so like if I E while watching a recorded show.. then Z and nothing happens. cept the recording is still paused and it says I'm editing. what did I do wrong? heh |
| [05:48:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | rpete: setting in the jobqueue setting page in the backend mythtv-setup program |
| [05:48:00] | rpete: | Captain_Murdoch, available in 0.17? |
| [05:49:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | rpete: no, new for 0.18 |
| [05:49:00] | rpete: | okay, I'll try it when I upgrade |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | rpete: in cvs :) |
| [05:50:00] | mchou: | not the .18 "release" |
| [05:50:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mchou: huh? |
| [05:51:00] | itsame: | Captain_Murdoch: I'm running 0.18 |
| [05:51:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | itsame: sounds like you might not be running the 0.18 themes then. |
| [05:51:00] | itsame: | i'm getting 5 of the images...pre-018 i had that host problem with the w3.weather.com thing |
| [05:51:00] | itsame: | oh |
| [05:51:00] | itsame: | hrmm.... |
| [05:51:00] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: just saying the release has some issues when it comes to flagging :) |
| [05:51:00] | itsame: | that might be it |
| [05:51:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | did you install myththemes? |
| [05:52:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mchou: yeah. for some people it would be better and some worse. I hate to make things worse for people though. |
| [05:52:00] | itsame: | yea |
| [05:52:00] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: true :) |
| [05:52:00] | itsame: | but I wuz running the MediaCenter theme |
| [05:52:00] | itsame: | which I don't think is updated for 18 |
| [05:52:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys, if i have a deb package and wish to install it in fedora – is there a way i can do it – i know with debian u can use alien... |
| [05:52:00] | itsame: | testing with blue now |
| [05:52:00] | abarbaccia: | is there anything similar in fedora |
| [05:52:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | itsame: that's the issue. ther'es a var in the theme that says the number of images it expects on that page. |
| [05:53:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | itsame: I think... :) |
| [05:53:00] | itsame: | thats it |
| [05:53:00] | itsame: | ahh |
| [05:53:00] | itsame: | i'll take a look at the them instead of myth |
| [05:53:00] | itsame: | mucho thanx! |
| [05:53:00] | itsame: | blue works like a champ |
| [05:55:00] | mchou: | ok, stupid question.....I've just compiled the latest ivtv drivers (and installed them). how does the kernel know which modules to load in my /lib/module tree? (Duplicate file naes, but in differnt directories) |
| [05:55:00] | mchou: | names* |
| [05:55:00] | [Klatuu]: | depmod |
| [05:55:00] | [Klatuu]: | it builds the dependencies |
| [05:56:00] | [Klatuu]: | then modprobe ivtv should load all the dependent modules |
| [05:56:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: that's not what I meant though..... |
| [05:56:00] | [Klatuu]: | oh |
| [05:57:00] | mchou: | like tuner.o is in ivtv and in media/video |
| [05:57:00] | rpete: | best not to have duplicate filenames at all |
| [05:57:00] | [Klatuu]: | probably the same mechanism |
| [05:57:00] | laga: | itsame: i hear that mythcenter works fine in 0.18 |
| [05:57:00] | mchou: | so how does kenel "know" which one to load? |
| [05:57:00] | mchou: | kernel* |
| [05:58:00] | [Klatuu]: | it probably loads the first module that provides what it needs from the dependency tree |
| [05:58:00] | LLyric: | It has a certain order it looks in |
| [05:58:00] | LLyric: | [Klatuu]: he's talking abotu when there are multiple filenames |
| [05:58:00] | LLyric: | Remove the ones you don't want to load |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | LLyric: exactly :) |
| [05:58:00] | LLyric: | Or rename them |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | namespace problem :) |
| [05:58:00] | [Klatuu]: | I know |
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| [05:58:00] | rpete: | msp3400 is a good example of this, the ivtv msp3400 would suffice, but on my system the kernel is loaded instead |
| [05:59:00] | LLyric: | so remove/rename the system one |
| [05:59:00] | rpete: | so the wrong msp3400 is loaded, and the audio doesn't work |
| [05:59:00] | rpete: | until I remove the kernel msp3400 completely |
| [05:59:00] | LLyric: | So remove it :) |
| [05:59:00] | rpete: | it's a bloody example |
| [06:00:00] | protonchris: | I am using a PVR 350 and I have tv out problems |
| [06:01:00] | mchou: | but you know what's weird?? if I rename msp3400.ko to msp3400.ko.1 it says "unresolved dependencies in msp3400.ko.1" |
| [06:01:00] | protonchris: | If I turn on the PVR350 settings in mythtv playback, mythtv crashes. |
| [06:01:00] | mchou: | sorry, symbols. |
| [06:01:00] | protonchris: | If I don't turn them on, I don't get any sound. |
| [06:02:00] | protonchris: | This command works fine dd if=/dev/video0 of=/dev/video16. So I don't think it is a ivtv problem. |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | protonchris: you know what you're doing? :) |
| [06:04:00] | protonchris: | mchou: sorry I was talking about the problem I am having. |
| [06:04:00] | mchou: | of=/dev/video16!!?? |
| [06:05:00] | protonchris: | Yes. |
| [06:06:00] | mchou: | protonchris: learn something new ever day. what does that do? |
| [06:06:00] | mchou: | every* |
| [06:07:00] | mchou: | if I'm not mistaken, doesnt /dev/video16 point to vbi or some other device? |
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| [06:09:00] | protonchris: | mchou: I thought it was the device to use for the hardware decoder on the PVR 350. |
| [06:11:00] | mchou: | protonchris: you could be right re /dev/video16 pointing to HW decoder. I just dont remember. |
| [06:11:00] | mchou: | why not just dump it to a regular file and try to play it back? |
| [06:12:00] | protonchris: | the dd command works so I suspect that a regular file will work as well. |
| [06:13:00] | protonchris: | mythtv crashes when it tries to play a recording on the /dev/video16 |
| [06:13:00] | protonchris: | on the command line /dev/video16 works. So I suspect a mythtv problem. |
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| [06:18:00] | phillip37: | hi everybody |
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| [06:19:00] | protonchris: | Anybody have any ideas? |
| [06:19:00] | phillip37: | i am trying to solve what i hope is my last obstacle to get mythtv running i have got my channels scanned in mythtv but when i go to watch mythtv the screen goes blank then about 20 to 30 seconds later it comes back to the menu anybody know what might be wrong at all |
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| [06:26:00] | toppin1: | howdy y'all ... anyone running myth FE on an xbox? what distro is good? |
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| [06:42:00] | mchou: | heh, just got my 150 working. Picture looks much better than m179 |
| [06:42:00] | toppin1: | 150 rocks |
| [06:43:00] | mchou: | yeah, I'm pretty pleased. |
| [06:43:00] | mchou: | might pick up another one tomorroe. |
| [06:43:00] | mchou: | w* |
| [06:43:00] | ** toppin1 just hardmodded an xbox to run frontend on ** | |
| [06:43:00] | mchou: | nice |
| [06:44:00] | toppin1: | trying to get linux on it now |
| [06:44:00] | mchou: | toppin1: for the best PQ you ought to get a ATSC tuner (if you live in US) :) |
| [06:44:00] | toppin1: | whassat? |
| [06:44:00] | mchou: | far superior to analog :) |
| [06:44:00] | mchou: | toppin1: you live in US? |
| [06:44:00] | toppin1: | yah |
| [06:45:00] | mchou: | HDTV |
| [06:45:00] | mchou: | ATSC==HDTV |
| [06:45:00] | toppin1: | hdtv over the air? |
| [06:45:00] | toppin1: | ah ic |
| [06:45:00] | mchou: | yeah. |
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| [06:45:00] | [Klatuu]: | I'd get a HDTV tuner but I don't have HDTV |
| [06:45:00] | toppin1: | need to do that before june presumably? |
| [06:45:00] | mchou: | july. |
| [06:45:00] | toppin1: | it's on the list for sure |
| [06:46:00] | toppin1: | need to get a job to buy all the toys i want lol |
| [06:46:00] | mchou: | I'm really interested in getting the avermedia A180 atsc tuner. Street price $70. |
| [06:46:00] | [Klatuu]: | I have a job and still can't buy all the toys I want |
| [06:46:00] | toppin1: | more time than money, hence the xbox instead of an epia |
| [06:46:00] | toppin1: | haha |
| [06:47:00] | [Klatuu]: | I need a house to put all my toys in |
| [06:47:00] | mchou: | heard the tuner is actually pretty good too (in windows) |
| [06:47:00] | [Klatuu]: | but that will lear do more toys |
| [06:47:00] | [Klatuu]: | lead |
| [06:47:00] | toppin1: | a lear would be a nice toy |
| [06:47:00] | mchou: | toppin1: I think XBox is probably a better choice than EPIA anyways. |
| [06:47:00] | toppin1: | too much gas tho |
| [06:48:00] | toppin1: | mchou: have you heard of a good distro for it? |
| [06:48:00] | [Klatuu]: | I saw an engine swap I would live to do |
| [06:48:00] | toppin1: | would be great if there was a knoppix for xbox lol |
| [06:48:00] | mchou: | for Xbox? nah, I dont really follow that scene much. |
| [06:48:00] | [Klatuu]: | someone swapped out the engine of their truck for a helicopter jet turbine |
| [06:48:00] | [Klatuu]: | it sounded sweet |
| [06:48:00] | toppin1: | haaaa! |
| [06:48:00] | toppin1: | that's bitchin |
| [06:49:00] | toppin1: | tach goes to 80000 rpm now |
| [06:49:00] | mchou: | huh??? Does that even work? |
| [06:49:00] | [Klatuu]: | 2 huge vertical exhaust pipes |
| [06:49:00] | [Klatuu]: | 1000 degree exhaust |
| [06:49:00] | toppin1: | plymouth built one in the 60's |
| [06:49:00] | toppin1: | a small car mind you |
| [06:49:00] | toppin1: | throttle response is poor tho |
| [06:49:00] | [Klatuu]: | a standard car throttle would be hell with one |
| [06:49:00] | [Klatuu]: | yeah |
| [06:50:00] | [Klatuu]: | takes a bit to spool up |
| [06:50:00] | toppin1: | or down |
| [06:50:00] | mchou: | lousy acceleration, eh? |
| [06:50:00] | [Klatuu]: | I wonder if an afterburner would work |
| [06:50:00] | [Klatuu]: | well |
| [06:50:00] | [Klatuu]: | it would go fast once it got to that speed |
| [06:50:00] | [Klatuu]: | errr |
| [06:50:00] | [Klatuu]: | rpm range |
| [06:50:00] | toppin1: | once it's spooled, methinks you are moving |
| [06:50:00] | [Klatuu]: | changing speeds is the problem |
| [06:51:00] | larsu: | The second mode of operation is where MythTV is paired with a hardware-based video encoder, such as a Matrox G200 <--- i have bt878 and Matrox g200 on 1Ghz system and i'm going for software based encoding. i'm not using g200 on that machine at the time, but would it be a little help or a lot of help if i install that g200 on that system? |
| [06:51:00] | mchou: | I take accel over top speed any day :) |
| [06:51:00] | toppin1: | strap a JATO on then lol |
| [06:51:00] | [Klatuu]: | hrmmm |
| [06:51:00] | [Klatuu]: | do I dare unmask 0.18 in gentoo |
| [06:52:00] | mchou: | larsu: SW based encode on 1GHz might be problematic |
| [06:52:00] | mchou: | dont really know if that's enough juice. |
| [06:52:00] | toppin1: | oh happy joy, didn't realize 0.18 was out |
| [06:52:00] | [Klatuu]: | I wonder if I can get my mpeg decoder to work |
| [06:53:00] | ** [Klatuu] points to the topic ** | |
| [06:53:00] | toppin1: | hehe |
| [06:53:00] | mchou: | larsu: 3 yrs ago I did it easy on XP1800+..... |
| [06:53:00] | larsu: | mchou: i'v done it allredy on windows and i was satisfied with the quality |
| [06:53:00] | larsu: | and then i had 600Mhz duron |
| [06:53:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [06:54:00] | [Klatuu]: | I think I will deal with this tomorrow |
| [06:54:00] | larsu: | 30min shows with 288x140 or something |
| [06:54:00] | mchou: | 600Mhz duron barely decodes DVD :) |
| [06:54:00] | ** [Klatuu] adds another item to his todo list ** | |
| [06:54:00] | mchou: | larsu: you live in US? |
| [06:54:00] | larsu: | mchou: nope, finland |
| [06:55:00] | mchou: | hmm, too bad. I was going to recommend a good deal on pvr-150 :) |
| [06:55:00] | larsu: | heh, i'v had that on my mind but, no money no honey |
| [06:56:00] | mchou: | finland uses DVB or....? |
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| [06:56:00] | larsu: | DVB = what? |
| [06:56:00] | mchou: | digital video broadcast. |
| [06:57:00] | larsu: | yes, we have that beside analog broadcasting |
| [06:57:00] | mchou: | larsu: why not get DVB then? |
| [06:59:00] | larsu: | i should cost yearly fee for just watching it and it would cost me a price of pvr-150 or 250 /year so go figure |
| [06:59:00] | mchou: | bt878 is not really ideal..... |
| [06:59:00] | mchou: | DVB is not free in finland? |
| [06:59:00] | mchou: | that's weird..... |
| [07:00:00] | larsu: | it is, but they'll track me down quite fast |
| [07:00:00] | mchou: | finland doesnt plan on phasing out analog? |
| [07:00:00] | larsu: | yes, at the year 2007 |
| [07:01:00] | mchou: | larsu: heh, are yo DVD Jon or something? |
| [07:01:00] | mchou: | you* |
| [07:01:00] | mchou: | government after you?? :) |
| [07:01:00] | larsu: | even when buing a tv, they'll get my address and in a week some tv-cop will be knocking on my door to require some money |
| [07:01:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [07:01:00] | larsu: | yep |
| [07:01:00] | [Klatuu]: | sounds like what they do in the UK |
| [07:02:00] | [Klatuu]: | tax TVs |
| [07:02:00] | [Klatuu]: | to pay for the BBC |
| [07:02:00] | mchou: | you a fugitive? :) |
| [07:02:00] | [Klatuu]: | the more you have the more you pay |
| [07:02:00] | larsu: | we dont even dare to open doors here to strangers.. everything must be done by autheticating a friend by cellphone :D |
| [07:02:00] | mchou: | wow.... |
| [07:02:00] | mchou: | are you for real??? |
| [07:02:00] | larsu: | yep |
| [07:03:00] | mchou: | what the heck is going on over there? I thought we have it bad with Bush :) |
| [07:03:00] | larsu: | my classmate had a girlfriend who went to open a door while she was at his place and ofcourse there was tv-cop and tv was playing out loud some shit |
| [07:03:00] | mchou: | what the hell is a tv-cop? |
| [07:03:00] | larsu: | student fellow, had to pay about 100–200 euros |
| [07:04:00] | toppin1: | NHK does that shite in japan too |
| [07:04:00] | larsu: | tv inspector |
| [07:04:00] | kormoc is now known as kormoc|camping | |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | sounds like orwell..... |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | 1984 and shit. |
| [07:04:00] | larsu: | i'v heard that they'r usually are ex-cops or something like that |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | god. |
| [07:04:00] | toppin1: | mchou: yah it does now that you mention it |
| [07:04:00] | toppin1: | creepy |
| [07:05:00] | toppin1: | but we 0wned theses teevees |
| [07:05:00] | mchou: | I dont get it. why cant you pay tax when buying tv?? |
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| [07:05:00] | mchou: | tv cops running around to see who is watching what. |
| [07:05:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [07:06:00] | larsu: | mchou: well you can actually pay the price at the store |
| [07:06:00] | larsu: | but who would be that stupid? |
| [07:06:00] | mchou: | I mean is the economy that bad in finland hey got to give jobs to retired cops?? |
| [07:07:00] | mchou: | real cops rtitr to become tv-cop :) |
| [07:07:00] | mchou: | retire* |
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| [07:08:00] | larsu: | thats just urban legend :D |
| [07:08:00] | mchou: | larsu: so tell me exactly how this works. What exactly was your friend fined for? Watching TV? buying tv w/o paying tax? what? |
| [07:09:00] | larsu: | mchou: thats actually a tax for tv |
| [07:09:00] | mchou: | is that per year? |
| [07:09:00] | larsu: | and if you get caught by not paying it you'll get some ticket about it beside that annual fee |
| [07:09:00] | mchou: | ok. |
| [07:09:00] | mchou: | so this would be for any tv? |
| [07:10:00] | larsu: | yes, any tv that has ..that..converter |
| [07:10:00] | mchou: | like what if you watch a program from Russia? :) |
| [07:10:00] | larsu: | only tv's with no tuner are free to use |
| [07:11:00] | mchou: | wow.... |
| [07:11:00] | mchou: | do they have news on TV over there? |
| [07:11:00] | mchou: | broadcast news. |
| [07:11:00] | toppin1: | japan has these crazy nhk stickers that go outside the door of your house. the tv inspector comes by houses that don't have a sticker |
| [07:12:00] | larsu: | yes we have |
| [07:12:00] | larsu: | news on tv |
| [07:12:00] | larsu: | what a dumb guestion :D |
| [07:12:00] | larsu: | 'does radio make a sound?' :P |
| [07:12:00] | larsu: | sorry |
| [07:12:00] | mchou: | I really find this hard to believe. You dont pay tv tax, you dont get news, and how can you be a "responsible citizen" and vote? |
| [07:13:00] | Beirdo: | there was voting WAY before TV |
| [07:13:00] | larsu: | hmm... never thought it that way |
| [07:13:00] | mchou: | radio is free? |
| [07:13:00] | larsu: | yes it is |
| [07:13:00] | larsu: | luckily |
| [07:13:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: true, but free press is at foundation of democracy. |
| [07:14:00] | mchou: | Let's send GWB to finland :) |
| [07:14:00] | Beirdo: | no it isn't |
| [07:14:00] | larsu: | darn, mythtv doesent seem to be ported on BSD so i have to use linux for that project of mine |
| [07:14:00] | Beirdo: | you don't remember history very well :) |
| [07:14:00] | xris: | Beirdo: what am I forgetting to pack? |
| [07:14:00] | ** xris remembers to pack his bow/arrows. ** | |
| [07:14:00] | Beirdo: | got the CO2? |
| [07:14:00] | Beirdo: | the axe? |
| [07:15:00] | larsu: | ok, dumb question but what is all that hassel about Qt packages, can i encode broadcast without GUI? |
| [07:15:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: democracy was founded in Athens way before any "free press" |
| [07:15:00] | mchou: | GWB will bring free TV to finland :) |
| [07:16:00] | mchou: | and in Athens they had free speech and free press. |
| [07:16:00] | toppin1: | as well as all the war and deficits you can imagine |
| [07:16:00] | xris: | axe is packed, CO2 is in the garage hooked up to the kegs, and I won't leave without them. |
| [07:16:00] | rpete: | deficits are the bomb |
| [07:16:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:16:00] | xris: | kormoc would probably kill me. |
| [07:16:00] | mchou: | toppin1: dont confuse GWB with facts :) |
| [07:16:00] | larsu: | i'm planning to put that encoding-computer under sofa and play it from another computer on lan |
| [07:16:00] | xris: | got much of the rest of the alcohol, too. |
| [07:16:00] | toppin1: | mchou: hehehe |
| [07:16:00] | Beirdo: | mmmm. |
| [07:17:00] | Beirdo: | you got a big honking stein to drink mead from? |
| [07:17:00] | xris: | still need to pull off some bottles of basil, saffron and habanero mead. |
| [07:17:00] | mchou: | larsu: how much is tv tax/year roughly? |
| [07:17:00] | Beirdo: | and a staff to beat kormoc with? :) |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | there will be spears and clubs there. |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | but I'd much rather be tosser for him in a game of spear the beer. |
| [07:18:00] | Beirdo: | that will do |
| [07:18:00] | larsu: | mchou: hmm.. something around 100–150e |
| [07:18:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [07:18:00] | mchou: | xris: how about catpults? |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | hmm, except I do have to sit with him on the ride home. |
| [07:18:00] | Beirdo: | Oh |
| [07:18:00] | larsu: | afaik, never paid it myself |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | mchou: no, but hopefully my friend will bring his cannon |
| [07:18:00] | Beirdo: | don't forget the case or two of swill beer |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | no hunters to scare off at the new site, though. |
| [07:19:00] | xris: | yeah. gotta pick that up on the way out of town. |
| [07:19:00] | xris: | that's the entry fee |
| [07:19:00] | Beirdo: | and a camera :) |
| [07:19:00] | larsu: | mchou: and the best they can offer for that price is 2. season of Gilmore Girls :) |
| [07:19:00] | xris: | even found my spare battery, which I thought I'd lost. |
| [07:19:00] | larsu: | at the time |
| [07:19:00] | xris: | so plenty of pics coming back. |
| [07:19:00] | Beirdo: | cool :) |
| [07:19:00] | mchou: | larsu: lol. |
| [07:20:00] | mchou: | how about the Sopranos? |
| [07:20:00] | Beirdo: | make sure you get pics of kormoc spearing a beer :) |
| [07:20:00] | xris: | heh |
| [07:20:00] | xris: | yes. |
| [07:20:00] | xris: | and hopefully not missing. |
| [07:20:00] | xris: | missing can be painful. |
| [07:20:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:20:00] | Beirdo: | beer can to the head? |
| [07:20:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [07:20:00] | Beirdo: | heeh |
| [07:20:00] | larsu: | mchou: that was on commercial channel which is free, but i havent seen sopranos for a while. in a year or two |
| [07:20:00] | xris: | or the knuckles. |
| [07:21:00] | xris: | (though you can do that one with a successful stab, too) |
| [07:21:00] | Beirdo: | sounds like fun though |
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| [07:21:00] | xris: | and I have 12 or so 1u heatsinks in my trunk for melting. |
| [07:21:00] | mchou: | larsu: I'm still confused. Commercial channels are free? |
| [07:21:00] | xris: | and a box of brass |
| [07:21:00] | Beirdo: | Oooh |
| [07:21:00] | xris: | I want a geeky knife. |
| [07:21:00] | larsu: | mchou: yep, but there is no way to seperate them |
| [07:21:00] | xris: | made from melted computer parts |
| [07:21:00] | Beirdo: | your smith friend will be there? |
| [07:22:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [07:22:00] | Beirdo: | fun |
| [07:22:00] | xris: | though he doesn't seem to know much about melting stuff. just pounding stuff. |
| [07:22:00] | xris: | but there are others who know how to melt stuff. |
| [07:22:00] | xris: | can at least play around with it, even if we don't get anything really cool made. |
| [07:22:00] | Beirdo: | you need to make me one sometime :) |
| [07:22:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:22:00] | xris: | ooh, can't forget my sundial pendant. would hate not to know the time |
| [07:22:00] | Beirdo: | after you guys perfect it |
| [07:22:00] | larsu: | mchou: i just heard that one finnish guy at ircnet paid 300 euros for this year |
| [07:23:00] | xris: | Beirdo: or you can come out for a visit and make one for yourself. |
| [07:24:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [07:24:00] | xris: | though it's taken me a LONG time to collect this much brass. |
| [07:24:00] | xris: | easier to just buy it from a metal store. |
| [07:24:00] | Beirdo: | Hey, if I end up on the west coast... |
| [07:24:00] | mchou: | larsu: was that a fine or just the tax? |
| [07:25:00] | mchou: | larsu: that's about 1E/day :) |
| [07:25:00] | mchou: | larsu: pretty steep. |
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| [07:25:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, xris... if I end up out there, I'll have to come down for some fun :) |
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| [07:25:00] | mchou: | I mean 0.25–0.50/day would be more reasonable. |
| [07:26:00] | xris: | definitely |
| [07:26:00] | larsu: | mchou: well, he didnt mention anything about getting a ticket about it, so it is probably just whole tax-payment for ths year |
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| [07:27:00] | xris: | Beirdo: http://www.celticrose.com/store/product122.html |
| [07:27:00] | xris: | that's what I have |
| [07:28:00] | Beirdo: | that's this weekend? |
| [07:28:00] | larsu: | mchou: 200e tax and 100e fine |
| [07:28:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | larsu: hehe, should have just paid 200e |
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| [07:29:00] | mchou: | larsu: 200e is a bit more reasonable. |
| [07:29:00] | mchou: | that close to 0.66e/day. |
| [07:30:00] | larsu: | yep, but i'm living in flat at 4th floor with a dooreye and 1st door is locked and with doorphone :P |
| [07:30:00] | larsu: | so i have no fear about getting inspector around here :D |
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| [07:30:00] | mchou: | but I still find it hard to believe that there are such things as tv-cops. |
| [07:31:00] | Beirdo: | you live a sheltered life, mchou :) |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | larsu: they'll just revoke your driver's license. |
| [07:31:00] | Beirdo: | UK has stuff like that too |
| [07:31:00] | larsu: | mchou: i dont have valid driver license at the time |
| [07:32:00] | ** levon meeps ** | |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | heh, so that's why european tv don't get interrupted by commercials :) |
| [07:33:00] | larsu: | i was denied to have permanent driving license because i was got caught with a few sleeping pills on my pocket and that is a drug if i dont have recepie and whole thing doesent have anything to do with car, but they counted me as unrealible |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | larsu: they dont have cable in finland? |
| [07:33:00] | larsu: | we have cable tv, with 9–13 channels |
| [07:34:00] | mchou: | larsu: you have to pay additional for that or no? |
| [07:34:00] | xris: | Beirdo: I want something more like http://www.realgoods.com/shop/shop1.cfm/dv/1/dp/107/ts/4040265 (the aquitaine style) |
| [07:34:00] | larsu: | mchou: no, that is for all |
| [07:35:00] | Beirdo: | neat |
| [07:35:00] | larsu: | i dont think anyone uses tv through air besides at summer cabbins |
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| [07:35:00] | mchou: | larsu: ok, then pay the tax already. We pay for cable in US, pretty much the same thing. |
| [07:35:00] | xris: | larsu: no dvb-t? |
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| [07:37:00] | mchou: | tvtax is per "household" or per person? |
| [07:37:00] | xris: | Beirdo: ok, added it to my wishlist. now someone can get me one (probably my wife) |
| [07:37:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [07:38:00] | xris: | she's the one who got me the one I already have. |
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| [07:38:00] | xris: | need to find the rest of my medieval shiny stuff. |
| [07:39:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:40:00] | larsu: | xris: dvb-t ? |
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| [07:42:00] | mchou: | larsu: tv tax is per "household" or per person? |
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| [07:43:00] | xris: | larsu: dvb-terrestrial. much of europe uses it for over-the-air digital tv. |
| [07:43:00] | xris: | heh. found my drop-pearl earring. only time of year my wife lets me out of the house with it on. :) |
| [07:44:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [07:45:00] | larsu: | mchou: per tv |
| [07:46:00] | larsu: | xris: i dont know about that, but i think that is possible at south-finland |
| [07:52:00] | marmoset: | heh, was looking at how little space I had free on my myth partition, and just realized that I was thinking to myself "man, only 41 gigs, crap" |
| [07:52:00] | marmoset: | disk space sure has grown in the past few years |
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| [07:53:00] | ** marmoset ran his amiga off a single floppy for years ** | |
| [07:53:00] | marmoset: | the additional external floppy was SO nice |
| [07:53:00] | rpete: | no one needs more than 1.44 Mb |
| [07:53:00] | marmoset: | heh |
| [07:54:00] | marmoset: | these were 880k floppies! |
| [07:54:00] | rpete: | per second |
| [07:54:00] | rpete: | for now |
| [07:54:00] | fridge: | I need mroe than that |
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| [07:55:00] | larsu: | gee, pvr-250 aint even expensive, 120e wouldnt be a bad price |
| [07:55:00] | larsu: | ofcourse i'd need few hundred gigs of HD |
| [07:57:00] | rpete: | less than two hundred should do |
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| [08:03:00] | larsu: | and that way i could turn this (desktop-pc) pIII 450 / 256 sdram into a capture-pc with pvr-250 and 200Gb HD :) |
| [08:03:00] | larsu: | and start using that 1Ghz Athlon as desktop-windows :) |
| [08:04:00] | larsu: | i only wish that i had a job and money to do that |
| [08:04:00] | rpete: | I'd recommend something more beefy for just the commercial flagging |
| [08:04:00] | larsu: | 'commercial flagging' ..is what? |
| [08:04:00] | rpete: | filtering red bull ads |
| [08:05:00] | larsu: | aah :) |
| [08:05:00] | larsu: | does it has option like that also? :) |
| [08:05:00] | larsu: | 'filter ads' |
| [08:05:00] | rpete: | never mind |
| [08:06:00] | larsu: | i'v read about that some time ago, that i filters image by the logo or if matching 'to be continued...' screen comes |
| [08:08:00] | larsu: | but these 'non-commercial' channels dont have commecrials, those what i suppose to pay taxes of |
| [08:11:00] | rpete: | larsu, I don't understand you at all |
| [08:12:00] | larsu: | neither do i, so dont mind |
| [08:13:00] | fridge: | commercial flagging has never worked for me |
| [08:13:00] | larsu: | while recording a show, it goes on as long there is channels logo on right-top (usually) and if it fades out for the commercial, software pauses recording..etc.. |
| [08:14:00] | fridge: | the scene change detection would detect scene changes during the actual program |
| [08:14:00] | fridge: | and cut some of it out |
| [08:14:00] | fridge: | but never the ads |
| [08:17:00] | larsu: | i'm just trying to get a hang of how things work with videos. i'v had enough with just keeping up a *nix rootbox secure from the big big world. Little PVR project would be cool as i dont have patient to do programming myself |
| [08:19:00] | larsu: | well, i could start little programming just as hobby as i dont have anything else to do with my life. its boring to live here in finland. |
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| [08:24:00] | xris: | 'night, all... |
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| [08:25:00] | larsu: | its morning here :) |
| [08:25:00] | larsu: | so good morning all |
| [08:25:00] | larsu: | finland is 10h ahead of california :P |
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| [09:38:00] | omry: | can MythTV be used without a tuner? I want to set it up to watch video files mostly, maybe play some music. |
| [09:39:00] | fridge: | When I tried a long time ago, it wouldn't work without a tuner |
| [09:39:00] | fridge: | I'm not sure if you can nowadays |
| [09:39:00] | omry: | fridge, I tried about 3 months ago, couldn't get it to work. but maybe things changed. |
| [09:40:00] | omry: | or maybe I just didn't try hard enough. |
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| [10:06:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah you can |
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| [10:53:00] | flouger42: | y doesnt my mythfront end change channels any more |
| [10:53:00] | flouger42: | is it beacues i accidently added a mythtv user to my system? |
| [10:56:00] | fridge: | flouger42: where are my car keys? |
| [11:06:00] | flouger42: | in your door |
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| [11:10:00] | flouger42: | damn ti |
| [11:13:00] | flouger42: | what the deuce i fixed it somehow |
| [11:13:00] | flouger42: | good good |
| [11:21:00] | flouger42: | but now my times are off damn it |
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| [11:58:00] | flouger42: | sigh |
| [11:58:00] | flouger42: | i had it working ok everything was 1 hour off tried to fix that and it went down hill |
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| [12:17:00] | flouger42: | ok video is working again but its still 5 hours off on the scedule sigh |
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| [12:45:00] | flouger42: | lets see if living in honololo will help me |
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| [13:19:00] | flouger42: | does the xmltv listing offset work with zap2it? |
| [13:21:00] | flouger42: | i say the hell with timechanges just move time back or foward half an hour in that area and be done with it |
| [13:21:00] | flouger42: | bah im in the wrong channel |
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| [13:25:00] | larsu: | what's te difference between pvr-150 and 250 ? |
| [13:27:00] | fridge: | 100 |
| [13:29:00] | larsu: | i can see only technical data from pvr-150 but not from pvr-250 |
| [13:29:00] | larsu: | PAL format* at 25fps: Full D1: 720x576, MPEG1: 352x288 and what does that 'Full D1' mean? |
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| [13:31:00] | flouger42: | damnit this timeoffset does nothing |
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| [13:41:00] | flouger42: | if this doesnt work im just putting my clock 5 hours ahead and saying the f with it |
| [13:41:00] | flouger42: | going to have to turn off the timelookup though ger |
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| [13:44:00] | D-side: | morning. |
| [13:45:00] | flouger42: | how do i look at whats on my startup tasks and to turn off automatic time correction thing |
| [13:45:00] | flouger42: | morning |
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| [13:50:00] | bronco1: | hello all |
| [13:51:00] | bronco1: | Anyone in here using xmodmap with mythtv? |
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| [13:51:00] | bronco1: | I am trying to get keycodes mapped to multiple-key combos like "Alt+P" |
| [13:52:00] | bronco1: | which will make my ati remote jump to the program guide... |
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| [15:02:00] | black_Nightmare: | sorry if this is a dumb ot question but then...any of you know about webtv's? |
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| [15:17:00] | black_Nightmare: | hey mejo |
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| [15:54:00] | streamtrade: | all the favorite runners are going today...I will papertrade and buy VESP |
| [15:54:00] | streamtrade: | VEXP |
| [15:57:00] | streamtrade: | MAIR, low volume action |
| [16:01:00] | streamtrade: | GOAM with its weekly jump and dump? |
| [16:01:00] | laga: | AFAIK, IIRC. but YMMV, because IANAL. |
| [16:03:00] | streamtrade: | ok, out of VEXP papertrade with a loss |
| [16:04:00] | laga: | oh, you're talking about stocks |
| [16:04:00] | streamtrade: | IMHO I am |
| [16:05:00] | streamtrade: | guess this is not the myth-daytrading window, oops |
| [16:06:00] | laga: | yep ;) |
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| [16:24:00] | CyberKnet: | /join #myth-daytrading |
| [16:24:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
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| [16:53:00] | CygnusX1: | Hello. Has anyone seen a good tutorial for getting MythTV up on Slackware 10.1? |
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| [17:18:00] | timekllr: | anyone in here ever have you mythfrontend go invisible in gentoo ? it's running, but I can't see it :( |
| [17:19:00] | timekllr: | s/you/your |
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| [17:26:00] | ** Beirdo slaps chanserv around a bit ** | |
| [17:26:00] | Beirdo: | who told you you could segfault!? |
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| [17:29:00] | laga: | Beirdo: happens once in a while. |
| [17:29:00] | laga: | Beirdo: c'mon, he's just a machine. |
| [17:29:00] | ** Beirdo kicks ChanServ in the bolts ** | |
| [17:30:00] | laga: | ugh |
| [17:30:00] | laga: | poor chanserv. |
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| [17:53:00] | CyberKnet: | wow. a kick in the bolts is pretty damning. |
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| [17:53:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [17:53:00] | CyberKnet: | and pretty funny too |
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| [18:03:00] | dja: | anyone know of way to fix the qt-3.3.4 buglet (which requires ctrl-enter instead of just enter)? I can't get irxevent to send ctrl-enter...:-( |
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| [19:06:00] | Filip: | I'm trying to add entries to mythmenus by editing the xml files. Although the entries show up, I'm unable to start zsnes from myth. |
| [19:07:00] | Filip: | There seem to be several classes of menuitems: MENU, PLUGIN, etc |
| [19:07:00] | Filip: | Where can I find what they mean? |
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| [19:27:00] | jemarcks: | Help! Im trying to install Mythtv using Jarods guide on FC3 and the audio isnt working and the video isnt working either. I have a pvr150, asus mother board wiht the SiS chipset |
| [19:28:00] | jemarcks: | I did everything the guide said |
| [19:32:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: are the kernel modules loaded? |
| [19:33:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Why is MythWeb saying "Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 'MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 14':" |
| [19:33:00] | LaggyMcGee: | ?? |
| [19:33:00] | LaggyMcGee: | I have backend ver 0.17 and mythweb ver 0.17... |
| [19:33:00] | jemarcks: | laggymcgee, yes they are |
| [19:33:00] | LaggyMcGee: | just reinstalled them both |
| [19:33:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: what does dmesg say? |
| [19:34:00] | jemarcks: | ivtv: Initialized WinTV PVR 150, card #0 |
| [19:35:00] | LaggyMcGee: | What do you mean when you say the video isn't working? |
| [19:36:00] | LaggyMcGee: | do you have the /dev/video device? |
| [19:36:00] | LaggyMcGee: | and /dev/video0 |
| [19:36:00] | jemarcks: | I have followed Jarods guide... i tried /usr/bin/ivtvctl -p 4, cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/test_capture.mpg,mplayer -vo xv /tmp/test_capture.mpg for '-p 0 — -p 7' and nothing shows up. but... on -p 6 i fo get some static. the DTV tuner is outputing video... i checked |
| [19:37:00] | jemarcks: | /dev/video0 is there |
| [19:37:00] | jemarcks: | oh... but i have to load ivtv manual.. if i reboot, its gone |
| [19:38:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Yeah... I do too. |
| [19:38:00] | LaggyMcGee: | I'm using FC3 as well, but my background is Gentoo. |
| [19:38:00] | jemarcks: | :/ |
| [19:38:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Haven't gotten around to figure out how to auto-load them yet. |
| [19:38:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Should be easy, though. |
| [19:38:00] | jemarcks: | yeah... i know, but i cant remember how |
| [19:38:00] | jemarcks: | what pvr do you have? |
| [19:39:00] | LaggyMcGee: | In the FC3 system I've got the 150 |
| [19:39:00] | jemarcks: | cool... i got mine last week at Frys |
| [19:39:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Yeah. It's a great deal. |
| [19:39:00] | jemarcks: | i updated ivtv to apt-get testing |
| [19:39:00] | LaggyMcGee: | S-Video in is B&W, but oh well |
| [19:39:00] | jemarcks: | its got a radio on it too... or so ivtv says |
| [19:39:00] | LaggyMcGee: | try ivtvctl -a |
| [19:40:00] | jemarcks: | B&W? |
| [19:40:00] | LaggyMcGee: | you're in the US, right – NTSC? |
| [19:40:00] | LaggyMcGee: | black & white |
| [19:40:00] | jemarcks: | yes.. usa |
| [19:40:00] | jemarcks: | what will ivtvctl -a do? |
| [19:40:00] | jemarcks: | wow.. lots of output |
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| [19:41:00] | LaggyMcGee: | near the bottom it should say Input 6: |
| [19:41:00] | LaggyMcGee: | and then list a bunch of stuff |
| [19:41:00] | LaggyMcGee: | 6 is my TV Tuner |
| [19:41:00] | LaggyMcGee: | I think 7 is the radio |
| [19:42:00] | jemarcks: | Input : 6 |
| [19:42:00] | jemarcks: | Name : Tuner 0 |
| [19:42:00] | jemarcks: | Type : 0x00000001 |
| [19:42:00] | jemarcks: | Audioset: 0x00000003 |
| [19:42:00] | jemarcks: | Tuner : 0x00000000 |
| [19:42:00] | jemarcks: | Standard: 0x0000000000003000 ( NTSC ) |
| [19:42:00] | jemarcks: | Status : 0 |
| [19:42:00] | jemarcks: | im not sure... input 7 looks the same as 6 |
| [19:42:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Yeah, that looks good. |
| [19:43:00] | LaggyMcGee: | If you're getting static, that's a good thing. |
| [19:43:00] | jemarcks: | Input = 6 |
| [19:43:00] | jemarcks: | ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMOUTPUT |
| [19:43:00] | jemarcks: | ioctl: VIDIOC_G_OUTPUT |
| [19:43:00] | jemarcks: | ioctl: VIDIOC_G_OUTPUT failed |
| [19:43:00] | jemarcks: | ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMAUDIO |
| [19:43:00] | jemarcks: | Input : 0 |
| [19:43:00] | jemarcks: | Name : Tuner Audio In |
| [19:43:00] | jemarcks: | Input : 1 |
| [19:43:00] | mocker: | Wow, so Axel Thimm is stopping ATrpms. |
| [19:43:00] | jemarcks: | Name : Audio Line In |
| [19:43:00] | jemarcks: | static is ok but im inputing live tv |
| [19:43:00] | jemarcks: | what? |
| [19:44:00] | jemarcks: | laggymcgee, do you see livetv on your box? |
| [19:44:00] | LaggyMcGee: | yeah |
| [19:44:00] | LaggyMcGee: | you have digital cable? |
| [19:44:00] | jemarcks: | no, i have DTV |
| [19:44:00] | jemarcks: | damn |
| [19:44:00] | LaggyMcGee: | DirectTV? |
| [19:44:00] | jemarcks: | yes, |
| [19:44:00] | jemarcks: | it outputs on channel 3 |
| [19:45:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Mmmmm... Right. |
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| [19:45:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Did you try changing to channel 3? |
| [19:45:00] | jemarcks: | /usr/lib/ivtv/ptune-ui.pl & |
| [19:45:00] | jemarcks: | # mplayer -vo xv /dev/video0 didnt work either |
| [19:45:00] | jemarcks: | yes... and some others. |
| [19:45:00] | LaggyMcGee: | try this: ivtvctl -H |
| [19:45:00] | jemarcks: | k |
| [19:45:00] | LaggyMcGee: | it resets the firmware |
| [19:46:00] | LaggyMcGee: | resets all the settings |
| [19:46:00] | jemarcks: | done.... |
| [19:46:00] | LaggyMcGee: | now try running the myth frontend |
| [19:46:00] | LaggyMcGee: | and try to switch to channel 3 there |
| [19:46:00] | jemarcks: | what '-p x' did you use? |
| [19:47:00] | jemarcks: | i think the default is channel 3 anyway |
| [19:47:00] | jemarcks: | ok... leme run to my myth box and try it.. brb |
| [19:47:00] | LaggyMcGee: | yeah, but make sure |
| [19:48:00] | LaggyMcGee: | mine was acting funny – sometimes doing 'cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg' or 'mplayer /dev/video0' would work, sometimes they wouldn't |
| [19:48:00] | LaggyMcGee: | the myth frontend always worked. |
| [19:49:00] | jemarcks: | do i need to run mythtvsetup first to set the channel |
| [19:49:00] | jemarcks: | ? |
| [19:49:00] | LaggyMcGee: | i don't think so |
| [19:49:00] | LaggyMcGee: | that loads the channel information... |
| [19:49:00] | LaggyMcGee: | You just want to see if you see video |
| [19:49:00] | LaggyMcGee: | btw – I'm no expert, I just did this the other day and it worked. ;-) |
| [19:50:00] | LaggyMcGee: | oh, also – if you do get it working, the video might extend off of the screen |
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| [19:51:00] | LaggyMcGee: | you have to go into the input setup and tell it to use 480x480 instead of 720x480 |
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| [19:52:00] | jemarcks: | its not working |
| [19:53:00] | jemarcks: | i used /usr/lib/ivtv/ptune-ui.pl & |
| [19:53:00] | jemarcks: | # mplayer -vo xv /dev/video0 |
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| [19:53:00] | LaggyMcGee: | no, no, no.... |
| [19:53:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Don't do any of that – just try opening up mythtv |
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| [19:54:00] | jemarcks: | i ran mythfrontend and hit livetv... it was blank |
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| [19:54:00] | LaggyMcGee: | and you tried to go to channel 3? |
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| [19:55:00] | jemarcks: | how to i tell it channel 3? |
| [19:55:00] | LaggyMcGee: | use the channel buttons – whatever you have them set to |
| [19:55:00] | LaggyMcGee: | I think the default is left and right |
| [19:55:00] | jemarcks: | ill check... |
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| [19:58:00] | kramman: | The pvr-500 gives some static near the top of the picture. The static comes, then goes away, then comes and goes away every couple seconds. |
| [19:58:00] | kramman: | Also at the bottom of the picture, I will sometimes get a "frozen" strip of video |
| [19:58:00] | kramman: | anyone else experience that? |
| [19:59:00] | CyberKnet: | dont have a 500 |
| [20:00:00] | CyberKnet: | have two 179's, but no 500's |
| [20:00:00] | kramman: | I'm using ivtv-0.3.2x |
| [20:02:00] | jemarcks: | laggymcgee, i ran mythfrontend and looked at the log file... its saying it couldnt start live tv |
| [20:04:00] | kramman: | hmm, guess there is a newer ivtv available. I'll try that. |
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| [20:04:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: what does dmesg say now? |
| [20:04:00] | Pio: | im having some weird audio capture problems on my myth box.. the audio it captures has tons of pops and clicks.. |
| [20:04:00] | Pio: | anyone have any general ideas i should try? |
| [20:04:00] | Pio: | theres nothing wrong with the capture device, if i play sound directly from it its crystal clear |
| [20:05:00] | jemarcks: | i looked at the mythbackend log file and see this now... 2005-04–22 13:58:26.740 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [20:05:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 13:58:26.751 Unknown video codec |
| [20:05:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 13:58:26.752 Please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles and |
| [20:05:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 13:58:26.753 setup the four 'Software Encoders' profiles. |
| [20:05:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 13:58:26.754 Assuming RTjpeg for now. |
| [20:05:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 13:58:26.756 NVR: Error, unknown audio codec |
| [20:05:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 13:58:26.761 NVR: Won't work with the streaming interface, falling back |
| [20:05:00] | jemarcks: | VIDIOCGCHAN: Invalid argument |
| [20:05:00] | jemarcks: | VIDOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument |
| [20:05:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 13:58:26.785 TVRec: Recording Prematurely Stopped |
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| [20:06:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: Did you set up your Capture Cards and Recording Profiles? |
| [20:06:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Pio: Did you look at the Troubleshooting Audio section on the website? |
| [20:06:00] | jemarcks: | I think i did... i went to the capture cards page and it saw the card |
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| [20:07:00] | jemarcks: | ivtv: Autodetected WinTV PVR 150 card |
| [20:07:00] | jemarcks: | ivtv: Found an iTVC16 based chip |
| [20:07:00] | jemarcks: | ivtv: Tuner Type 0, Tuner formats 0x00001000, Radio: yes, Model 0x008d1659, Revision 0xe0c509d7 |
| [20:07:00] | jemarcks: | ivtv: NTSC tuner detected |
| [20:07:00] | jemarcks: | ivtv: Radio detected |
| [20:07:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: How about the Recording Profile? |
| [20:08:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Did you assign the video card to a video source? |
| [20:08:00] | jemarcks: | you mean the directory to store recordings |
| [20:08:00] | jemarcks: | yes. |
| [20:08:00] | jemarcks: | leme go tripple check |
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| [20:08:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: yeah – that looks like your problem. |
| [20:08:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: better yet, delete your settings and start over again |
| [20:09:00] | jemarcks: | ok... will do. do i need to set the IP address or can i use localhost |
| [20:09:00] | LaggyMcGee: | localhost is fine, I think |
| [20:09:00] | jemarcks: | k |
| [20:09:00] | jemarcks: | brb |
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| [20:12:00] | Pio: | LaggyMcGee, nothing much in there addresses the quality of the audio, most of it focuses on the capture settings in alsa |
| [20:12:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Pio: which capture card? |
| [20:12:00] | LaggyMcGee: | or rather, which driver? |
| [20:12:00] | Pio: | its a bt848 |
| [20:13:00] | Pio: | but if i listen directly to the card output its crystal clear |
| [20:13:00] | Pio: | its the recording thats killing it |
| [20:13:00] | LaggyMcGee: | like using xawtv? |
| [20:13:00] | Pio: | yeah |
| [20:14:00] | Pio: | well my card's audio comes in on the internal audio connector on my sb live |
| [20:14:00] | LaggyMcGee: | you have DMA enabled on your drive? |
| [20:14:00] | Pio: | cd input.. so i can just turn it up in the alsa mixer all the time |
| [20:14:00] | Pio: | yeah i checked that, its only dma3, but that should do it |
| [20:14:00] | LaggyMcGee: | yeah, it should. what are your sound levels at? |
| [20:14:00] | LaggyMcGee: | have you tried turning them way down? |
| [20:14:00] | Pio: | ive tried varying them, yeah |
| [20:14:00] | Pio: | no effect |
| [20:15:00] | LaggyMcGee: | I'm running a PVR-250, so I'm just tossing out things I've read in the past. |
| [20:15:00] | Pio: | and what else is weird, this same box, before i switched from slackware to gentoo, it was fine |
| [20:15:00] | Pio: | so something configured differently that im not thinking of |
| [20:15:00] | LaggyMcGee: | don't have any real experience... I had a bt848 and ditched it for a hardware encoder. ;-) |
| [20:16:00] | LaggyMcGee: | most of the things I've read about poor sound quality had to do with some kind of performance issues |
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| [20:16:00] | LaggyMcGee: | hard drive, memory, etc |
| [20:17:00] | LaggyMcGee: | You said ALSA? |
| [20:17:00] | Pio: | maybe i should try capturing audio outside of mythtv to see if the pops happen in any recording context |
| [20:17:00] | Pio: | yeah |
| [20:18:00] | jemarcks: | laggymcgee, the card type should be a mpeg2 pvr250/350? |
| [20:18:00] | LaggyMcGee: | yeah, that sounds like a good idea |
| [20:18:00] | LaggyMcGee: | or maybe try OSS |
| [20:18:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: yeah |
| [20:18:00] | jemarcks: | ok.. that was wrong then... im running mythfilldatabase now... |
| [20:18:00] | Pio: | its a p4 2.26, 512 mb mem, buffer is on a udma3 60 gig 5400 rpm maxtor.. |
| [20:19:00] | Pio: | its a p4 2.26, 512 mb mem, buffer is on a udma3 60 gig 5400 rpm maxtor.. |
| [20:19:00] | Pio: | oops sorry |
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| [20:19:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Pio: sounds more than enough. |
| [20:20:00] | LaggyMcGee: | DMA was my problem, but my symptom was jittery video, not audio |
| [20:20:00] | LaggyMcGee: | See if you can try OSS |
| [20:20:00] | Pio: | ugh |
| [20:20:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Pio: maybe try 'cat /dev/video > test.mpg' |
| [20:20:00] | Pio: | well ill keep it in mind |
| [20:20:00] | LaggyMcGee: | see what happens there |
| [20:20:00] | Pio: | huh that works? wow |
| [20:21:00] | Pio: | trying |
| [20:21:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Oh.... maybe not. I'm thinking of my hardware encoder now. :-) |
| [20:21:00] | Pio: | yeah heh |
| [20:21:00] | Pio: | itd be like test.somerawformat |
| [20:21:00] | LaggyMcGee: | right |
| [20:22:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Hmm... I'm thinking maybe encoding settings, then. |
| [20:22:00] | Pio: | i do have a second v4l device.. a webcam |
| [20:22:00] | Pio: | maybe ill try unloading that |
| [20:22:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Try it, but that shouldn't really matter. |
| [20:22:00] | Pio: | ive tried setting the encoding settings real low.. |
| [20:23:00] | Pio: | im going to try just arecord |
| [20:23:00] | Pio: | see if it can record clear audio |
| [20:23:00] | LaggyMcGee: | yeah |
| [20:24:00] | Pio: | sounds pretty good |
| [20:25:00] | Pio: | yeah its got to be some kind of performance issue |
| [20:25:00] | Pio: | its weird because my cpu meter doesnt show a real strain on the cpu |
| [20:25:00] | Pio: | i wonder if i could increase some kind of internal alsa capture buffer to make it more resilient to bad performance |
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| [20:26:00] | jemarcks: | laggymcgee, ok... i got the database filled |
| [20:27:00] | jemarcks: | something still isnt right... i have the log file output from mythfrontend... |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 14:23:09.317 mythfrontend version: 0.17.20050130–1 www.mythtv.org |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 14:23:09.317 Enabled verbose msgs : important general |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 14:23:09.582 Switching to square mode (G.A.N.T.) |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 14:23:10.162 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin. |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | mythtv: could not connect to socket |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | mythtv: Connection refused |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding messages |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 14:23:10.163 Joystick disabled. |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 14:23:10.176 Registering MythDVD DVD Media Handler as a media handler |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 14:23:10.176 Registering MythDVD VCD Media Handler as a media handler |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 14:23:10.339 Registering MythMusic Media Handler as a media handler |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | SIP listening on IP Address 192.168.0.120:5060 NAT address 192.168.0.120 |
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| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | SIP: Cannot register; proxy, username or password not set |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 14:23:14.762 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 14:23:14.769 Using protocol version 14 |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 14:23:16.137 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read(). |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/video/buffer//ringbuf2.nuv |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 14:23:16.153 LiveTV not successfully started |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 14:23:16.163 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 14:23:16.166 Changing from None to None |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | 2005-04–22 14:23:16.185 Using protocol version 14 |
| [20:29:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: did you set your recording directories correctly? |
| [20:29:00] | LaggyMcGee: | does the user running mythbackend have write access to your /video/buffer directory? |
| [20:29:00] | jemarcks: | yeah, i think so. /video/buffer and /video/recordings. |
| [20:29:00] | jemarcks: | uhh.. .leme check |
| [20:30:00] | jemarcks: | [mythtv@mythtv1 ~]$ ll /video |
| [20:30:00] | jemarcks: | total 0 |
| [20:30:00] | jemarcks: | drwxr-xr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 6 Apr 22 14:23 buffer |
| [20:30:00] | jemarcks: | drwxr-xr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 29 Apr 21 22:27 recordings |
| [20:31:00] | LaggyMcGee: | looks good |
| [20:31:00] | LaggyMcGee: | did you restart mythbackend after making the changes? |
| [20:31:00] | jemarcks: | nope... do i need to? |
| [20:31:00] | LaggyMcGee: | yeah |
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| [20:33:00] | jemarcks: | /sbin/service mythbackend start ... it started |
| [20:33:00] | LaggyMcGee: | so it was never running...? |
| [20:33:00] | jemarcks: | yeah, it was running |
| [20:33:00] | LaggyMcGee: | how about a restart |
| [20:34:00] | LaggyMcGee: | you stopped and started it? |
| [20:34:00] | jemarcks: | yeah.. i did a restart |
| [20:34:00] | jemarcks: | [root@mythtv1 mythtv]# /sbin/service mythbackend restart |
| [20:34:00] | jemarcks: | Stopping mythbackend: [ OK ] |
| [20:34:00] | jemarcks: | Starting mythbackend: [ OK ] |
| [20:34:00] | jemarcks: | now should i check live tv? |
| [20:35:00] | LaggyMcGee: | sure |
| [20:36:00] | jemarcks: | ok.. progress! there is static and the channel info is imposed on the screen for 2sec. it said svideo0 at the top |
| [20:36:00] | LaggyMcGee: | your configuration is messed up, then |
| [20:37:00] | LaggyMcGee: | You have to set the video input to a video source |
| [20:37:00] | LaggyMcGee: | or vice-versa.... whatever they're called. |
| [20:37:00] | jemarcks: | yeah.. i set the composit and the tuner to directv |
| [20:37:00] | LaggyMcGee: | It shouldn't say S-Video, then... |
| [20:37:00] | jemarcks: | hmmm... true |
| [20:38:00] | jemarcks: | ill go run mythsetup again and edit it |
| [20:38:00] | LaggyMcGee: | yeah. pay careful attention to everything |
| [20:38:00] | jemarcks: | it should be on tuner 0? |
| [20:38:00] | LaggyMcGee: | yeah |
| [20:38:00] | jemarcks: | this is the first time i have set this up so im learning as i go |
| [20:38:00] | jemarcks: | thanks for your help |
| [20:38:00] | jemarcks: | ok.. brb |
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| [20:42:00] | [Klatuu1: | newzbin is evil |
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| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: put that sheep down... :) |
| [20:48:00] | jemarcks: | laggymcgee, you have cable, right? are you using composite 0 or tuner 0? |
| [20:48:00] | jemarcks: | I have DTV and i still get static on tuner 0 or composite 0 |
| [20:48:00] | LaggyMcGee: | tuner 0 |
| [20:48:00] | LaggyMcGee: | composite is the composite cable |
| [20:49:00] | jemarcks: | hmm... that should work for me too... |
| [20:49:00] | LaggyMcGee: | the rf cable |
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| [20:49:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Yeah, if you're using DTV, you may as well use composite. |
| [20:49:00] | jemarcks: | the output of the DTV box is a cable that has a threaded fitting on it. |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | svideo if you can |
| [20:49:00] | LaggyMcGee: | even better |
| [20:50:00] | LaggyMcGee: | especially since it is trying to use your s-video now anyway. ;-) |
| [20:50:00] | jemarcks: | svideo from DTV to pvr150? cool |
| [20:50:00] | jemarcks: | well i changed it |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | should always use the best quality connection you can :) |
| [20:50:00] | jemarcks: | i think i have an extra svideo cable |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | svideo > composite > RF |
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| [20:50:00] | jemarcks: | ah.. ok |
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| [20:51:00] | jemarcks: | >> going to play with settings again.... brb yall |
| [20:51:00] | jemarcks: | i think im close |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | now, if you are using analog cable, then by all means, RF right in is the best choice :) |
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| [20:53:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Beirdo: Why is MythWeb saying "Unexpected response to |
| [20:53:00] | [Klatuu1: | I have my DTV receiver hooked up via s-video on my PVR-500 |
| [20:53:00] | LaggyMcGee: | MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 'MYTH_PROTO_VERSION 14':"? |
| [20:53:00] | [Klatuu1: | video works |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | sounds like you upgraded the backend, but not the mythweb |
| [20:53:00] | [Klatuu1: | sound is crackly |
| [20:53:00] | LaggyMcGee: | They're both 0.17 |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | betcha they aren't :) |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:54:00] | LaggyMcGee: | lol |
| [20:54:00] | LaggyMcGee: | portage says they are |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | mythweb is expecting a version, and getting a different one |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | where's Cardoe when we need him? :) |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:54:00] | LaggyMcGee: | if I netcat into port 5432, should I get anything? |
| [20:55:00] | LaggyMcGee: | It takes a few seconds before it returns that – I'm wondering if the backend is simply returning nothing at all |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | why would you use netcat to do what telnet was designed for? |
| [20:56:00] | LaggyMcGee: | don't have telnet installed – security reasons |
| [20:56:00] | Beirdo: | there's no security reason not to have telnet installed |
| [20:56:00] | Beirdo: | telnetd is another story |
| [20:56:00] | LaggyMcGee: | right |
| [20:57:00] | LaggyMcGee: | i never bothered to install the daemon/client package |
| [20:57:00] | LaggyMcGee: | nor just the client |
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| [20:57:00] | aficionado: | Hi |
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| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | anyways |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | the ports are 6544 and 6543 |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | one's the backend protocol, the other the web status page |
| [20:58:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Ok |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | you may need to restart your backend if it got itself wedged |
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| [20:58:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Oh, I've done more than restart it... I've rebooted, reinstalled... everything. |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | you have a version mismatch by the looks of it |
| [20:59:00] | LaggyMcGee: | If I connect to 6543, what should I be able to do/see? |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | I don't know |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | read the source :) |
| [20:59:00] | LaggyMcGee: | i.e. – can I type in a command to see what comes back |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [20:59:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Beirdo: lol – good call |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | I think that's the backend protocol port |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | 6544 being a web status page |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | or the other way around |
| [21:00:00] | Beirdo: | I don't remember |
| [21:00:00] | Beirdo: | so a "GET / HTTP/1.0" |
| [21:00:00] | LaggyMcGee: | The frontends refer to 6543, so that's what I'm guessing |
| [21:00:00] | Beirdo: | might help |
| [21:00:00] | aficionado: | Is FX5200 with S-Video card a good option for a video card with S-Video out? |
| [21:00:00] | Beirdo: | if that works, you have the web status port |
| [21:00:00] | LaggyMcGee: | nothing on either port |
| [21:00:00] | Beirdo: | aficionado: it should do fine, I think |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | LaggyMcGee: then you likely need to restart the backend |
| [21:01:00] | aficionado: | Beirdo: are there any other cars that I should consider? |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | a BMW :) |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | oh, you mean cards :) |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:01:00] | aficionado: | haha =D |
| [21:01:00] | aficionado: | rofl |
| [21:01:00] | aficionado: | sorry, my bad... I was confused where the BMW came from :) |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | I use a Radeon 9600 Pro myself, but most people have better luck with nvidia |
| [21:01:00] | jemarcks: | laggymcgee, i hooked up the svideo cable to my DTV receiver and ran mythsetup. i get a picture on the monitor but its B&W! |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | the FX5200 should be fine |
| [21:02:00] | aficionado: | hm... |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | jemarcks: that's a PVR150? |
| [21:02:00] | jemarcks: | beirdo, yes a 150 |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | I know xris (who's not here right now) had that problem |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | but I'm not sure how/if he fixed it |
| [21:03:00] | jemarcks: | and, i have static on the speakers |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | likely just a newer version of the driver |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | for that, turn down the output volume in the mixer if you have it at 100% |
| [21:03:00] | aficionado: | do the PVR series cards have TV-Out also? |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | it may just be clipping |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | the PCR350 does, the rest don't |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | PVR350 rather |
| [21:04:00] | ** Beirdo glares at his fingers ** | |
| [21:04:00] | aficionado: | haha :) |
| [21:04:00] | aficionado: | so I am not the only one :-P |
| [21:04:00] | jemarcks: | why do i have a B&W picture from my pcr150? |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | no you're not :) |
| [21:04:00] | jemarcks: | pvr150 |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | jemarcks: why are you asking what I just explained something about? |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | other people have seen that problem, and may or may not have fixed it, and aren't here right now |
| [21:05:00] | jemarcks: | beirdo, sorry i missed it. can you repeat plz |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | check for a newer version of ivtv, that may help |
| [21:06:00] | jemarcks: | beirdo, i changed from stable to testing and got the latest last nite |
| [21:06:00] | CyberKnet: | I thought you were patient? |
| [21:06:00] | CyberKnet: | =P" |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | stable to testing? |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | Hmmm? |
| [21:06:00] | jemarcks: | yes |
| [21:06:00] | jemarcks: | hmmm |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | what version number is ivtc? |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | ivtv |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | stupid fingers |
| [21:07:00] | jemarcks: | ivtv: version 0.3.2 (q) |
| [21:07:00] | aficionado: | jemarcks: are you in UK? |
| [21:07:00] | jemarcks: | no.. usa.. texas |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | hmm. OK. Keep your eyes on the ivtv releases. Unfortunately, xris isn't here to say what solution he may have found. |
| [21:08:00] | jemarcks: | ok.. ill go back to composite and move forward |
| [21:08:00] | aficionado: | jemarcks: looks like google has some results too |
| [21:08:00] | jemarcks: | and? |
| [21:08:00] | aficionado: | let me get the URL |
| [21:08:00] | jemarcks: | oh, ivtv isnt auto loading at boot time... how do i fix that? |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | OK, sounds like a plan if nothing fixes it |
| [21:11:00] | aficionado: | jemarcks: http://www.thegreenbutton.com/community/shwme . . . ageID=100549 <--- one of the posts talks touches that |
| [21:12:00] | aficionado: | jemarcks: http://www.msusenet.com/t-3023596.html <-- another one saying that it did not tune the channels correctly, not sure if it applies to DTV much though |
| [21:15:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: Definitely an ivtv driver issue |
| [21:16:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: S-Video is B&W on the 150. |
| [21:17:00] | ikaro: | anyone using ivtv 0.3.3f ? |
| [21:17:00] | ikaro: | with mythtv 0.18 |
| [21:18:00] | LaggyMcGee: | ikaro: nope, 0.3.2 |
| [21:18:00] | ikaro: | im getting the syslog flooded with irq overflow – stealing a buffer |
| [21:22:00] | CygnusX1: | ikaro, I got the same thing. I jsut saw that 3.3h is out |
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| [21:25:00] | aficionado: | hows is eVGA for the manufacturer of the nvidia chips? |
| [21:25:00] | aficionado: | how* |
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| [21:33:00] | jemarcks: | aficionado, thanks for the link. not much help really, i know im not alone. |
| [21:34:00] | jemarcks: | laggymcgee, is B&W on the svideo in a bug or a feature? |
| [21:34:00] | jemarcks: | i may dump this 150 and run for a 250. |
| [21:36:00] | CygnusX1: | Hello. Has anyone seen a good tutorial for getting MythTV up on Slackware 10.1? |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [21:36:00] | jemarcks: | nope |
| [21:37:00] | ikaro: | cygnusx1, ok, can you try it out ? |
| [21:38:00] | CygnusX1: | ikaro, I am working on it...don't know where it will end up :-) |
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| [21:44:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: check this out re: the B&W S-video |
| [21:44:00] | LaggyMcGee: | //www.mail-archive.com/ivtv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg03270.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mail-archive.com/ivtv-devel@lists. . . . sg03270.html |
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| [21:55:00] | ikaro: | cygnusx1, where is the 3.3h ? |
| [21:57:00] | CygnusX1: | http://www.ivtv.tv/releases/ivtv-0.3/ivtv-0.3.3h.tgz |
| [21:57:00] | ikaro: | hmm |
| [21:58:00] | ikaro: | in the sf.net page the latest is g |
| [21:58:00] | ikaro: | thx |
| [21:58:00] | CygnusX1: | That usually lags from what I have seen. |
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| [21:59:00] | EmergeTW: | Afternoon |
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| [22:03:00] | ikaro: | same thing happens with that version .. |
| [22:04:00] | CygnusX1: | ikaro, That stinks. I have had the best luck with 3.2i so far. Sound is somewhat goofy though. |
| [22:05:00] | ikaro: | pretty bad .. |
| [22:05:00] | jemarcks: | laggymcgee, thanks for the link... did you try it? |
| [22:05:00] | ikaro: | cpu usage goes up to ~ 30 % |
| [22:06:00] | CygnusX1: | ikaro, Are you using a PVR 150? |
| [22:06:00] | ikaro: | f350 |
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| [22:08:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: I can't try it – I'm not home right now. |
| [22:08:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: but I'll try it when i get home in a few hours |
| [22:08:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: Did you try it? |
| [22:08:00] | ikaro: | but good thing is some channels that previouslly had a terrible image and were prety much unusable, are now ok'ish'. |
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| [22:09:00] | ikaro: | but i still got a bunch of channels where the image sux. |
| [22:09:00] | CygnusX1: | ikaro, llok through your dmesg out put and see what tuner # is being detected...maybe try using that with one of the older release. |
| [22:10:00] | ikaro: | its detected ok, i mean, it works .. just some channels have so much interferences and noise(static) that its impossible to see anything. |
| [22:10:00] | jemarcks: | laggymcgee, i just tried it... it didnt work |
| [22:11:00] | jemarcks: | laggymcgee, another thing... the picture is funny... the right 3rd of it is off the screen |
| [22:11:00] | ikaro: | but it definitely got alot better on some frequencies |
| [22:12:00] | CygnusX1: | jemarcks, go in and set your livetv and recording profiles to 720x480 |
| [22:12:00] | jemarcks: | ahhh... ok. will do |
| [22:13:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: no, i told you already... |
| [22:13:00] | LaggyMcGee: | they have to be 480x480 |
| [22:13:00] | ikaro: | cygnusx1, ivtv: ENC IRQ OVERFLOW: #88 Stealing a Buffer, 2 currently allocated <- same thing, right ? |
| [22:13:00] | CygnusX1: | LaggyMcGee, scaling is busted on the 150 |
| [22:13:00] | jemarcks: | 480x480? |
| [22:13:00] | ikaro: | 640x480 |
| [22:13:00] | CygnusX1: | ikarao right |
| [22:13:00] | ikaro: | the dev isnt on irc, is he ? |
| [22:14:00] | Dibblah: | 640x480 is right. |
| [22:14:00] | jemarcks: | ok... 480x480 it is... for now |
| [22:14:00] | Dibblah: | No. |
| [22:14:00] | Dibblah: | However, if you use one of the more recent versions, it's worked around (vscaling works – Hscaling is not implemented at all) |
| [22:15:00] | Dibblah: | Err... Other way round ;) |
| [22:15:00] | jemarcks: | is a 250 working? |
| [22:15:00] | Dibblah: | 250 is working. |
| [22:15:00] | jemarcks: | I just wana watch tv |
| [22:15:00] | jemarcks: | with the 150 i cant even do that unless i want b&W |
| [22:15:00] | LaggyMcGee: | i'm currently using 480x480 under ver. 0.3.2 – looks great |
| [22:15:00] | Dibblah: | However, you may have a "250" that's a 150. |
| [22:16:00] | jemarcks: | ?? how would i know |
| [22:16:00] | Dibblah: | 0.3.2? |
| [22:16:00] | LaggyMcGee: | ivtv 0.3.2q |
| [22:16:00] | jemarcks: | im running 3.2q |
| [22:16:00] | CygnusX1: | LaggyMcGee, on a 150? which version 0.3.2 what letter? |
| [22:16:00] | CygnusX1: | yroger |
| [22:16:00] | CygnusX1: | LaggyMcGee, is your sound good? |
| [22:17:00] | LaggyMcGee: | CygnusX1: sure |
| [22:17:00] | jemarcks: | my sound is all 'hissssssssssssssssssss' |
| [22:17:00] | jemarcks: | static |
| [22:17:00] | LaggyMcGee: | I haven't used it extensively |
| [22:17:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: that's because your video is static. ;-) |
| [22:17:00] | CygnusX1: | LaggyMcGee, what distro did you build off of? |
| [22:17:00] | LaggyMcGee: | FC3 |
| [22:18:00] | ** CygnusX1 wonders if the default kernel in FC3 will like his SATA controller ** | |
| [22:18:00] | jemarcks: | laggymcgee, its static with the svideo picture in B&W |
| [22:18:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: Ah... Well, the S-Video is only video, after all. |
| [22:18:00] | ikaro: | whats better mpeg-2 PS or mpeg-2 TS ? |
| [22:19:00] | LaggyMcGee: | You have to set the audio channel. |
| [22:19:00] | jemarcks: | oh duh. true |
| [22:19:00] | jemarcks: | i still cant get comoposite to give me anything |
| [22:20:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: You're SURE there's something coming from your DTV? |
| [22:21:00] | jemarcks: | laggymcgee, yes.. i can hook it up to the input on the TV and it shows up fine |
| [22:21:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: alright... |
| [22:22:00] | jemarcks: | the 150 has composite 0–3 inputs. should i set up all of them? |
| [22:23:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: just set up what you need |
| [22:24:00] | jemarcks: | i hope they fix the ivtv driver soon! |
| [22:24:00] | LaggyMcGee: | jemarcks: there's no real "fixing"... it's in development |
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| [22:29:00] | LaggyMcGee: | In order to record, you need to be a backend, right? |
| [22:29:00] | jemarcks: | yep |
| [22:30:00] | ** LaggyMcGee has some slave backend building to do.... ** | |
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| [22:37:00] | phillip37: | hi everybody does anyone here have a visionplus dvb-t high deffinition tv card at all |
| [22:38:00] | LaggyMcGee: | is there a way to troubleshoot by telneting to the mythbackend? |
| [22:38:00] | LaggyMcGee: | When I connect, it doesn't do anything |
| [22:39:00] | [Klatuu1: | jemarcks: try ivtvctl -p 1 |
| [22:40:00] | CygnusX1: | LaggyMcGee, are you able to login via telnet? Try ssh instead. |
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| [22:42:00] | LaggyMcGee: | CygnusX1: huh? |
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| [22:42:00] | LaggyMcGee: | CygnusX1: I'm talking about connecting directly to port 6543 |
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| [22:44:00] | CygnusX1: | Sorry LaggyMcGee smack me. |
| [22:49:00] | EmergeTW: | wow, recompileing a kernel in debian is much different then in gentoo |
| [22:53:00] | CygnusX1: | is this file firmware: http://hauppauge.lightpath.net/software/pvr25 . . . 17_21288.exe |
| [22:57:00] | ikaro: | yir |
| [23:00:00] | EmergeTW: | has anyone recompiled a knoppmyth kernel? |
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| [23:09:00] | marmoset: | EmergeTW: I always just used make for both debian and gentoo kernels ;) |
| [23:11:00] | EmergeTW: | marmoset: yeah but I am wanting to make sure there arnt any patches I have to do to the kernel src |
| [23:11:00] | EmergeTW: | or if they are already done |
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| [23:17:00] | LT4life: | is it possible to play movies stored on your hard drive in mythtv? |
| [23:18:00] | LT4life: | what is the best video player to use for this? |
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