| Thursday, April 21st, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | ** jarodwilson takes a bow ** | |
| [00:00:00] | awb4422: | i went to a LUG meeting here on campus, and we kind of all talked about the distros we used, and I was the only person using an rpm based distro and almost got laughed out of the room |
| [00:00:00] | jarodwilson: | huh |
| [00:00:00] | xris: | that sucks |
| [00:00:00] | awb4422: | so since then, i tried gentoo, but i'm not patient enough, and eventually settled on debian, but started using ubuntu when hoary was almost final |
| [00:01:00] | awb4422: | well thats my life story i guess lol |
| [00:01:00] | jarodwilson: | One of the lugs around here has a bunch of Gentoo jack-asses that annoy the crap out of me... |
| [00:01:00] | awb4422: | haha |
| [00:01:00] | visit0r_ is now known as visit0r | |
| [00:01:00] | jarodwilson: | But the main Seattle LUG is pretty much anything goes, everyone just likes Linux, no distro-hating |
| [00:01:00] | xris: | I use fedora because the sysadmins I know (who give me free support) use fedora. |
| [00:01:00] | Beirdo: | not all Gentoo people are total jackasses though |
| [00:01:00] | jarodwilson: | (the Gentoo guys at TacLUG esp. like to rip on RH) |
| [00:02:00] | awb4422: | basically, when the gentoo'ists get all crazy, just ask the question – "but what do you do when gcc breaks??" they usually shutup |
| [00:02:00] | jarodwilson: | Oh no, I know, just these ones |
| [00:02:00] | xris: | I'm considering switching to ubuntu because of fedora politics, but won't unless I can get good at making my own .deb files. |
| [00:02:00] | Beirdo: | Yeah, I know some debian/ubuntu types that rip on RH needlessly |
| [00:02:00] | awb4422: | yeah |
| [00:02:00] | Beirdo: | every distro has pros and cons |
| [00:02:00] | Beirdo: | all of them |
| [00:02:00] | xris: | yup |
| [00:02:00] | awb4422: | "get a real package manager" is what i hear |
| [00:02:00] | jarodwilson: | My boxes at home are probably 75% RH/FC, 25% debian/ubuntu now |
| [00:02:00] | awb4422: | which i used to return "get a kernel that supports USB" |
| [00:02:00] | xris: | awb4422: redhat is actually in the process of building a new system called something like smartrpm |
| [00:03:00] | Beirdo: | RPM is the same as DEB as far as I'm concerned |
| [00:03:00] | xris: | to replace apt+yum+whatever |
| [00:03:00] | jarodwilson: | I will say this: RHN kicks ass, if you don't mind the cost. |
| [00:03:00] | awb4422: | xris: interesting, i haven't heard about that |
| [00:03:00] | jarodwilson: | Or get lucky, and have a free RHEL4 AS x86_64 license. ;-) |
| [00:03:00] | awb4422: | xris: I will have to give it a look |
| [00:03:00] | xris: | awb4422: it's been fairly hush hush, dunno why. |
| [00:03:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: is the irc log still in place? |
| [00:03:00] | Beirdo: | MythLogBot: help |
| [00:03:00] | awb4422: | jarodwilson: lucky lucky |
| [00:03:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [00:03:00] | jarodwilson: | er, actually, smart was developed by the folks at Conectiva |
| [00:03:00] | xris: | but apt and yum both have horrible issues with a lot of things, so something new would be nice. |
| [00:04:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: ok, thanks |
| [00:04:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: well see, I didn't know that. heh. |
| [00:04:00] | Beirdo: | RPM has issues |
| [00:04:00] | awb4422: | yeah my main problem was when the package maintainers started fighting and rpm broke |
| [00:04:00] | Beirdo: | the whole rebuild DB crap... |
| [00:04:00] | jarodwilson: | Gustavo Niemeyer is the front man on smartpm |
| [00:04:00] | xris: | Warren stopped talking to me for some reason, so I never got any more info on it. |
| [00:04:00] | jarodwilson: | I have a feeling Mandrivel is headed the smart way too |
| [00:04:00] | awb4422: | lol are they going to call it .srpm? |
| [00:04:00] | jarodwilson: | heh |
| [00:05:00] | xris: | awb4422: I think it still uses rpm |
| [00:05:00] | jarodwilson: | No, the package format is still rpm |
| [00:05:00] | xris: | just a different way of managing them |
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| [00:05:00] | awb4422: | http://fedoranews.org/blog/?p=573 |
| [00:05:00] | jarodwilson: | In part, its just apt with multiarch support and some other features. |
| [00:06:00] | xris: | figured something like that. |
| [00:06:00] | xris: | Warren twisting world views again, I guess... |
| [00:07:00] | awb4422: | oh hey i have a quick question |
| [00:07:00] | xris: | maybe he knows I went over to the "dark side" and that's why he stopped speaking to me. |
| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:07:00] | awb4422: | ok so if i dont use firewire to record HD from a cable box, can air2pc or pcHD3000 do it? ive read mixed reviews, and kind of just want a definitive answer |
| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | I went even further to the dark side |
| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:07:00] | xris: | lol |
| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | my FC build machine runs ubuntu |
| [00:08:00] | jarodwilson: | I had an FC build machine running Gentoo for a while |
| [00:08:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:08:00] | awb4422: | someone had mentioned that the air2pc had qam problems on the mailing list |
| [00:08:00] | Beirdo: | I'm using vservers |
| [00:08:00] | jarodwilson: | Gentoo was just way too much time and effort |
| [00:08:00] | xris: | he goes into #mythtv sometimes looking for me (I'm rarely there, don't have screenspace for more chat windows/tabs), but never answers me when I /msg him. |
| [00:08:00] | xris: | I'd consider gentoo if it actually used the same file structure as, well, linux. |
| [00:08:00] | jarodwilson: | yes, the first rev Air2PC doesn't fully support QAM frequencies |
| [00:08:00] | xris: | if I wanted to run bsd, I'd run bsd. |
| [00:09:00] | jarodwilson: | :D |
| [00:09:00] | ** Beirdo high-fives xris ** | |
| [00:09:00] | marmoset: | xris: you want to run bsd, you just don't realize it yet. |
| [00:09:00] | awb4422: | jarodwilson: the new air2pc's coming out – i think 5th gen tuners... they are rumored to have the QAM thing fixed? |
| [00:09:00] | marmoset: | ;) |
| [00:09:00] | Beirdo: | I have gentoo on my asterisk box, it's OK for something where you WANT to compile everything to keep it trim |
| [00:09:00] | jarodwilson: | Yes, the new Air2PC should fully support QAM |
| [00:10:00] | awb4422: | awesomeness |
| [00:10:00] | xris: | marmoset: I installed freebsd once (years ago, before I knew much), and promptly uninstalled it when it looked absolutely nothing like slackware. |
| [00:10:00] | marmoset: | hehe |
| [00:10:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:10:00] | jarodwilson: | Meanwhile, I have this jacked up one that doesn't work for sqaut like I wanted it to... |
| [00:10:00] | xris: | I really should probably buy an air2pc card. |
| [00:10:00] | xris: | I keep hoping someone will give me one. |
| [00:10:00] | marmoset: | xris: to be honest tho, I hate ports under bsd anyway. |
| [00:10:00] | xris: | heh |
| [00:10:00] | awb4422: | i have one on order |
| [00:10:00] | jarodwilson: | You want it for OTA or cable? |
| [00:10:00] | xris: | OTA |
| [00:10:00] | awb4422: | i need to change my shipping address – its coming to my dorm and i wont be here lol |
| [00:10:00] | xris: | I have Dish for the rest. |
| [00:11:00] | jarodwilson: | I'm not actually using mine for much of anything right now... |
| [00:11:00] | xris: | and am waiting for their new encryption stuff to happen before I bother deciding if I want to cross the grey line into pulling that signal in with a dvb card. |
| [00:11:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: if you wanted to get rid of it, I wouldn't turn it down. but don't worry about it — I'd still need to get an antenna, etc. |
| [00:12:00] | awb4422: | for 20 years of my life, we NEVER had cable at home..as soon as i go away to college, within a month they get satellite and a brand new flat panel tv |
| [00:12:00] | xris: | lol |
| [00:12:00] | awb4422: | its not like im the youngest or anything either |
| [00:12:00] | awb4422: | im the oldest of 4 |
| [00:12:00] | marmoset: | awb4422: its for your dad to watch the spice channel now that you're out of the house |
| [00:12:00] | marmoset: | oh n/m |
| [00:12:00] | awb4422: | haha |
| [00:12:00] | xris: | kinda how it was with my family. except it wasn't until I was done with college. and it was only a 27" tv. |
| [00:12:00] | awb4422: | he still hasn't gotten a snowblower since i still come home on christmas break |
| [00:14:00] | jarodwilson: | My folks still have no cable. |
| [00:14:00] | jarodwilson: | And a 10+ year old TV |
| [00:14:00] | awb4422: | heh |
| [00:14:00] | jarodwilson: | Me, cable, OTA HD, HDTV, etc... :) |
| [00:15:00] | awb4422: | lol |
| [00:15:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: mine got Click when it moved into university place... along with their internet connection. |
| [00:15:00] | AndyCap: | hmm, I need a faster cpu, It takes 4 1/2 hours to convert a simpsons episode to xvid. |
| [00:15:00] | xris: | wonder how the quality of OTA HD -> myth -> svideo would be on my tv. |
| [00:15:00] | xris: | wonder if it's even worth it. |
| [00:15:00] | xris: | pvr-150 should be enough, I think. |
| [00:16:00] | jarodwilson: | I'm trying to talk my pops into finally dropping his CRAPPY DSL service he's had since the dawn of DSL in Seattle, which is still usage capped and ends up costing him 2x as much as my cable service for half the bandwidth and a cap... |
| [00:16:00] | jarodwilson: | OTA HD -> myth -> svid looks pretty damned good |
| [00:16:00] | ** xris likes speakeasy dsl ** | |
| [00:16:00] | ** marmoset happy with dsl from work ;) ** | |
| [00:16:00] | xris: | my voip box should show up today. |
| [00:16:00] | jarodwilson: | my secondary box is hooked to an analog set and does just that |
| [00:16:00] | awb4422: | i can't wait til i graduate lol |
| [00:16:00] | jarodwilson: | Yeah, I want speakeasy once I'm in striking distance |
| [00:16:00] | awb4422: | waste all my money on mythtv related things |
| [00:16:00] | marmoset: | qwest is increasing speeds soon, fwiw |
| [00:16:00] | jarodwilson: | I REALLY like the pipes at work. |
| [00:17:00] | xris: | guess I should get off my a$$ and set up my rich friend's server so he can start charging hosting fees to his friends and get me some goodies) |
| [00:17:00] | jarodwilson: | We have multiple DS3 connections. |
| [00:17:00] | awb4422: | nice |
| [00:17:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: best I get is 2M/600 where I am, but it's nice. |
| [00:17:00] | jarodwilson: | And a few burstable Ethernet circuits. |
| [00:17:00] | xris: | and in a couple of days, no more dialtone. |
| [00:17:00] | xris: | nice. |
| [00:17:00] | jarodwilson: | xris: at home or at SiMech? |
| [00:17:00] | xris: | same, actually. |
| [00:17:00] | awb4422: | in the dorms im capped to 750 MB in a 24 hour time period |
| [00:17:00] | awb4422: | :/ |
| [00:17:00] | xris: | same CO, I think. |
| [00:17:00] | jarodwilson: | Home, I get 4M/512k |
| [00:17:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: you're on cable, though. |
| [00:17:00] | awb4422: | when i go to LUG meetings, ACM has uncapped connection.. UIUC is extremely fast lol |
| [00:18:00] | xris: | I get 2 static IP's and reverse DNS. |
| [00:18:00] | jarodwilson: | Work, I can regularly get 15M/15M |
| [00:18:00] | jarodwilson: | yeah, I'd like static IP, but no biggie |
| [00:18:00] | xris: | somewhat needed for running my own dns, mail, etc. |
| [00:19:00] | xris: | expensive at around $90/month, but I figure it saves me over $100/month in hosting fees, so it works out in my favor. |
| [00:19:00] | jarodwilson: | I just use zoneedit for dns, so things update almost instantaneously when the IP changes, if all goes well... |
| [00:19:00] | xris: | and my servers are all 100bT away instead of at some colo. |
| [00:19:00] | jarodwilson: | I still want to get my mail server colo'd |
| [00:19:00] | jarodwilson: | And use it for web also |
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| [00:19:00] | jarodwilson: | web is hosted now |
| [00:20:00] | jarodwilson: | But being on the lan is sure nice for chugging though lots of email... |
| [00:20:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [00:20:00] | marmoset: | lan isn't needed for pine |
| [00:20:00] | marmoset: | :) |
| [00:21:00] | xris: | I don't really care about hosted speeds, and so far people have been nice to my bandwidth. |
| [00:21:00] | jarodwilson: | (assuming imap, anywho) |
| [00:21:00] | jarodwilson: | ick, pine... |
| [00:21:00] | jarodwilson: | :) |
| [00:21:00] | xris: | lol |
| [00:21:00] | jarodwilson: | kmail for me |
| [00:21:00] | xris: | tbird for me. |
| [00:21:00] | marmoset: | guis drive me crazy in general |
| [00:21:00] | xris: | kde still bugs me for some reason. |
| [00:21:00] | jarodwilson: | Can't quite handle the traffic my website gets w/my cable connection |
| [00:21:00] | marmoset: | x is just something to organize my xterms ;) |
| [00:21:00] | awb4422: | jarodwilson: do you use spamassassin with kmail? ive heard bad things when they are used together... |
| [00:21:00] | jarodwilson: | konsole |
| [00:21:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: yes. you're much higher bandwidth than me. |
| [00:22:00] | awb4422: | jarodwilson: I'd like to switch from evolution, but i want spam protection |
| [00:22:00] | jarodwilson: | Nope, I run Maia Mailguard on the mail server |
| [00:22:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: I'd use konsole if it'd auto-change tab titles like gnome terminal does. |
| [00:22:00] | awb4422: | oh yes, your mail filter guide on your site, forgot about that |
| [00:22:00] | xris: | awb4422: thunderbird is nice. |
| [00:22:00] | marmoset: | just realized last night that at some point in the past few weeks I deleted like 80 gigs of bootleg live shows, sucks. |
| [00:22:00] | xris: | I find it more effective than spamassassin, too. |
| [00:22:00] | jarodwilson: | ew, I hate that, I label all my tabs myself. :) |
| [00:22:00] | marmoset: | I really wish that tape drives would catch up with HD capacity |
| [00:22:00] | jarodwilson: | mail filter guide is badly outdated, doesn't reflect exactly what I use anymore |
| [00:22:00] | awb4422: | xris: yeah, i like thunderbird, but I want more than a mail client |
| [00:23:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: I just like the see user, host and directory... which gnome-terminal pulls from my command prompt. |
| [00:23:00] | xris: | awb4422: and? |
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| [00:23:00] | jarodwilson: | aha |
| [00:23:00] | xris: | you haven't seen the calendar plugin? |
| [00:23:00] | jarodwilson: | It does show that in the title bar. :) |
| [00:23:00] | awb4422: | xris: I've used it in the past, it didnt seem very flush to me |
| [00:23:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: but not in the tab. |
| [00:23:00] | jarodwilson: | I like how easily I can move from tab to tab, move 'em around, etc |
| [00:24:00] | xris: | wouldn't mind if it let me rename it, but default to something other than just "console" or whatever it says. |
| [00:24:00] | jarodwilson: | I know all the keystrokes to never leave the keyboard, so part of it is just familiarity |
| [00:24:00] | jarodwilson: | "Shell" |
| [00:24:00] | jarodwilson: | it does let you rename them |
| [00:24:00] | xris: | gnome terminal is the same. command pageup/down like is standard for tabebd aps |
| [00:24:00] | xris: | apps |
| [00:24:00] | marmoset: | gnome terminal used to be the best terminal in the world |
| [00:24:00] | xris: | I know it lets you rename. but need a better default than just "shell" |
| [00:24:00] | marmoset: | but it's gotten really slow |
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| [00:25:00] | jarodwilson: | I use konsole even when in gnome |
| [00:25:00] | marmoset: | if there's a lot of text going by, it'll cause my whole machine to slow down |
| [00:25:00] | xris: | marmoset: could be. it also has some serious issues with term types. nano and irssi both freak out in it. |
| [00:25:00] | ** kormoc uses konsole in xfce4 ** | |
| [00:25:00] | marmoset: | I recently went back to actual xterm. if you tweak the character class so that it does better double-click selections, it's great :) |
| [00:25:00] | xris: | maybe there's a way to get konsole to rename the tab by running something in the console. |
| [00:26:00] | xris: | marmoset: tabs are your friend. |
| [00:26:00] | jarodwilson: | wouldn't surprise me |
| [00:26:00] | marmoset: | xris: I tried them for a bit, but then just went back to screen |
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| [00:26:00] | AndyCap: | xris: not at the expense of bloody truetype font rendering and taking over my function keys. |
| [00:26:00] | jarodwilson: | konsole gets slow when you turn on transparency and run full-screen and are doing a compile |
| [00:26:00] | xris: | heh |
| [00:26:00] | jarodwilson: | iTerm, anyone? |
| [00:26:00] | jarodwilson: | :) |
| [00:26:00] | xris: | konsole does have some nice features.. like "new screen session" |
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| [00:27:00] | jarodwilson: | holy OTness on this channel, eh?... ;) |
| [00:27:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: we haven't even hit the alcohol topic yet. |
| [00:27:00] | marmoset: | haha |
| [00:27:00] | jarodwilson: | heh |
| [00:28:00] | marmoset: | ok, on topic: anyone use an epia as a frontend? :) |
| [00:28:00] | xris: | just wait until later in the evening when Beirdo and I give brewing and port-tasting lessons. |
| [00:28:00] | jarodwilson: | Absolut Citron and Meyers Rum for me. |
| [00:28:00] | Beirdo: | Mmm |
| [00:28:00] | Beirdo: | Absolut?! |
| [00:28:00] | Beirdo: | gah |
| [00:28:00] | jarodwilson: | I do like a good porter |
| [00:28:00] | jarodwilson: | Or Skyy |
| [00:28:00] | jarodwilson: | Or Ketel One |
| [00:28:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, I can't drink Absolut :) Other vodkas, yes |
| [00:28:00] | marmoset: | I can almost only drink IPAs now |
| [00:29:00] | Beirdo: | Smirnoff... Polar Ice |
| [00:29:00] | ** xris ** | |
| [00:29:00] | awb4422: | wow you guys have too much money |
| [00:29:00] | Beirdo: | and for rum, I go for Havana Club 7yr Dark |
| [00:29:00] | xris: | pale beer. what a joke. ;) |
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| [00:29:00] | xris: | awb4422: "expensive" rum is about $19/bottle |
| [00:29:00] | marmoset: | xris: dark stuff is too sweet for me now |
| [00:29:00] | jarodwilson: | I miss Cali for liqs. |
| [00:29:00] | marmoset: | xris: but it depends on the beer |
| [00:29:00] | awb4422: | yeah i typically drink icehouse |
| [00:29:00] | jarodwilson: | er, hard liqs, that is |
| [00:29:00] | awb4422: | lol |
| [00:29:00] | xris: | marmoset: not all dark beers are sweet. plenty of flavorful creamy bitter stouts. |
| [00:29:00] | awb4422: | damn college kids! |
| [00:30:00] | Beirdo: | Mmm. |
| [00:30:00] | marmoset: | xris: oh, totally |
| [00:30:00] | Beirdo: | Guinness |
| [00:30:00] | xris: | I like sweet porters, though |
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| [00:30:00] | marmoset: | black canyon is a good porter :) |
| [00:30:00] | jarodwilson: | Spanish Peaks Porter was one of my faves back in the day. Haven't seen it any time lately tho |
| [00:30:00] | xris: | guinness, blech. had a sip of kormoc's guinness at the non-mythtv-meetup on friday. so watered down. |
| [00:30:00] | xris: | can't wait for this weekend and a plethora of homebrew flavors to drink. |
| [00:31:00] | jarodwilson: | You and my man Brett here would get along REAL good. |
| [00:31:00] | Beirdo: | xris: you are picky :) |
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| [00:31:00] | dopester: | ahh the seattle meet up group :) |
| [00:31:00] | Beirdo: | but I'm a scotch/rum man lately |
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| [00:32:00] | jarodwilson: | Glenlivet and Oban. |
| [00:32:00] | marmoset: | single malts are my friend |
| [00:32:00] | xris: | Beirdo: no argument there. not a big beer fan. |
| [00:32:00] | Uberbot: | Does anyone know why the volume changes when I un-pause a TV show? |
| [00:32:00] | jarodwilson: | I like a really good tequila too. |
| [00:32:00] | Beirdo: | I can't take tequila.. or gin |
| [00:32:00] | xris: | never been a tequila fan. but that may only be because I haven't had anything good. |
| [00:33:00] | xris: | Beirdo: gin is good if you mix it with the right stuff. |
| [00:33:00] | xris: | and if the weather is appropriate. |
| [00:33:00] | jarodwilson: | Patron |
| [00:33:00] | jarodwilson: | good stuff |
| [00:33:00] | jarodwilson: | not cheap tho |
| [00:33:00] | jarodwilson: | hate gin |
| [00:33:00] | jarodwilson: | ISTR Patron being something like $50–60 for a 750ml |
| [00:33:00] | Beirdo: | jarodwilson: http://pics.beirdo.ca/RandomPics/DSCN0052 |
| [00:33:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [00:34:00] | jarodwilson: | heh, lol |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | my booze |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:34:00] | marmoset: | haha |
| [00:34:00] | marmoset: | southern comfort up there too |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | and the next couple shots too |
| [00:34:00] | jarodwilson: | 2 for 2 on my scotch calls |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | and that don't include the cases of wine in the other room |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | and NO beer in the fridge, but a bottle of vodka in the freezer |
| [00:35:00] | jarodwilson: | oh, Baileys and Kahlua are two things one has gotta have too... |
| [00:35:00] | dopester: | and the havana club :) |
| [00:35:00] | jarodwilson: | Yes, wodka must go in freezer |
| [00:35:00] | jarodwilson: | My wife likes Cruzan rum, but isn't allowed to drink for a while... |
| [00:35:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: so must the irish cream |
| [00:36:00] | kormoc: | one freezes irish cream? |
| [00:36:00] | jarodwilson: | Baileys, yup. |
| [00:36:00] | kormoc: | baileys is not irish cream imho |
| [00:36:00] | Beirdo: | of course it is |
| [00:36:00] | jarodwilson: | uh... |
| [00:36:00] | kormoc: | it doesn't taste right... |
| [00:36:00] | dopester: | coffee creamer with a slight kick :) |
| [00:36:00] | Beirdo: | I've never frozen it though |
| [00:36:00] | xris: | I've heard that o'carolan's is better than baileys.. whichever one comes in the rounded wide bottle |
| [00:36:00] | xris: | Beirdo: it won't freeze |
| [00:36:00] | Beirdo: | the vodka MUST live in the freezer |
| [00:37:00] | Beirdo: | I know, I mean I've never put it in the freezer |
| [00:37:00] | xris: | ah. just keeps it cold longer when you pour it over ice. |
| [00:37:00] | ** jarodwilson likes Baileys ** | |
| [00:38:00] | Beirdo: | I never thought of it :) |
| [00:38:00] | Beirdo: | sounds good |
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| [00:38:00] | jarodwilson: | First and foremost though, Vodka. |
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| [00:39:00] | mr_hoople: | wow, His Honor is in here |
| [00:39:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:39:00] | jarodwilson: | Judge Wapner? |
| [00:39:00] | Beirdo: | Mmm. Oban 14 |
| [00:40:00] | Beirdo: | I gotta have me some tonight when I get home |
| [00:40:00] | ** jarodwilson smacks lips... ** | |
| [00:40:00] | mr_hoople: | damn, Beirdo. |
| [00:40:00] | riksta: | lo Beirdo dopester xris |
| [00:40:00] | riksta: | :) |
| [00:40:00] | Beirdo: | heya, riksta |
| [00:40:00] | riksta: | what's the goss |
| [00:40:00] | dopester: | heya riksta |
| [00:41:00] | riksta: | dopester: how's the hunny? |
| [00:41:00] | Beirdo: | I think it's almost time for me to bugger off and go home |
| [00:41:00] | jarodwilson: | almost time for me to actually get some work done... |
| [00:41:00] | jarodwilson: | :) |
| [00:41:00] | riksta: | work schmork |
| [00:41:00] | dopester: | riksta: which one? |
| [00:42:00] | riksta: | haha, good answer |
| [00:42:00] | ** marmoset saw a car with the license plate L33T on I-5 the other day ** | |
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| [00:42:00] | ** jarodwilson thinks the person with that license plate should be summarily executed ** | |
| [00:43:00] | marmoset: | haha, yes |
| [00:43:00] | marmoset: | he was getting on 520 :) |
| [00:43:00] | jarodwilson: | Hm... Headed for MS? |
| [00:43:00] | marmoset: | it was in the evening tho |
| [00:43:00] | marmoset: | so I'm guessing eastsider working in seattle |
| [00:43:00] | marmoset: | but who knows |
| [00:44:00] | kormoc: | it was likly the most tech unknowing person in the world |
| [00:45:00] | jarodwilson: | Wait, that's what my license plate says... |
| [00:45:00] | jarodwilson: | ;-) |
| [00:46:00] | kormoc: | like I said, the most tech unknowning person in the world... :P |
| [00:46:00] | jarodwilson: | :D |
| [00:47:00] | jarodwilson: | I'd be going down 169, not 520, actually |
| [00:47:00] | jarodwilson: | possibly changing soon tho... |
| [00:49:00] | awb4422: | does anyone know how to abbreviate teraflops? |
| [00:50:00] | kormoc: | tflop |
| [00:50:00] | awb4422: | is that the real way or just the kormoc way? lol |
| [00:50:00] | kormoc: | it's the kormoc way :P |
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| [00:51:00] | Beirdo: | Tflop would be more likely |
| [00:51:00] | Beirdo: | as tera in metric -> T |
| [00:52:00] | jarodwilson: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS |
| [00:52:00] | jarodwilson: | looks like TFLOPS |
| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | sounds reasonable to me |
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| [01:07:00] | mr_hoople: | jarod: saw your post on air2pc today and i gave it a go |
| [01:07:00] | mr_hoople: | not sure if the firmware is loading tho |
| [01:07:00] | jarodwilson: | should something in dmesg output about loading the frontend |
| [01:08:00] | mr_hoople: | missing fw confirmed |
| [01:09:00] | mr_hoople: | heh, built from source last time and it was easier <ducks and runs> |
| [01:09:00] | jarodwilson: | ah yes, Axel doesn't put the firmware images in the packages (I think) |
| [01:10:00] | jarodwilson: | so you need to scrounge up a copy of dvb-fe-nxt2002.fw |
| [01:10:00] | mr_hoople: | if i can get this down right, i'll send you my procedures |
| [01:10:00] | jarodwilson: | stick it in /lib/firmware/ |
| [01:10:00] | mr_hoople: | yep, getting from cvs now |
| [01:10:00] | jarodwilson: | k, tho I already know pretty much everything, just haven't written it up |
| [01:10:00] | jarodwilson: | :) |
| [01:11:00] | mr_hoople: | damn you lazy, no good, .... |
| [01:11:00] | mr_hoople: | :) |
| [01:11:00] | jarodwilson: | I'm quite behind on a few things... |
| [01:11:00] | mr_hoople: | no need to explain — i've been herding cats for the last two months |
| [01:12:00] | jarodwilson: | I've got a 2 year old and a pregnant wife. :) |
| [01:12:00] | mr_hoople: | owch |
| [01:12:00] | mr_hoople: | and congratulations |
| [01:12:00] | jarodwilson: | danke |
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| [01:14:00] | jarodwilson: | (two and a half, to be more accurate) |
| [01:14:00] | Cromz: | jarodwilson: when you got time for that and that nice guide? lol |
| [01:14:00] | jarodwilson: | Heh, I don't sleep much. :) |
| [01:15:00] | Cromz: | btw good job on that too. :) ( the guide, not the kids.. I have 3 duaghters and a step son ) :O :) |
| [01:16:00] | jarodwilson: | Thanks. :) First kid is a boy, should find out early next mo. what #2 is... |
| [01:16:00] | Cromz: | awesome.. :) kids are fun. while thier young. after age 6 when they start testing the lie factor then it's all down from there.. lol ;) |
| [01:17:00] | jarodwilson: | Yeah, my son's a ton of fun, but definitely a handful... |
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| [01:17:00] | Cromz: | I have a 25 year old, 23 year old, a 19 year old and a 9. |
| [01:17:00] | Cromz: | the 25 year old is married |
| [01:18:00] | ** jarodwilson is 27 years old ** | |
| [01:18:00] | jarodwilson: | :) |
| [01:18:00] | Cromz: | and pregnant |
| [01:18:00] | Agrajag-: | does having mythbackend running make anyone elses loads go higher (when it's idle – not recording/transcoding/doing any jobs)? |
| [01:18:00] | Agrajag-: | mine go to about 0.25 |
| [01:18:00] | Cromz: | Agrajag-: hmm I havn't notice anything |
| [01:18:00] | jarodwilson: | With a 24 year old brother, a 21 year old sister and a 17 year old sister. |
| [01:18:00] | Agrajag-: | when i stop mythbackend, it goes to 0.0 |
| [01:19:00] | Agrajag-: | i can't think why it's doing this |
| [01:19:00] | xris: | big family. |
| [01:19:00] | ** xris just has one sister. ** | |
| [01:19:00] | ** kormoc has a 22 year old bro, a 18 year old bro and a 20 year old sis. ** | |
| [01:21:00] | Cromz: | I only got a half sister and she really would rather be my brother :/ |
| [01:21:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [01:21:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [01:21:00] | ** kormoc thinks there's a story behind that. ** | |
| [01:21:00] | Cromz: | it's the truth. I don't condem her.. cept when she wants to fight me to find out who's more of a man. :/ |
| [01:21:00] | Cromz: | naw |
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| [01:22:00] | kormoc: | heh, fair nuff |
| [01:22:00] | Cromz: | it's her life.. and life style. I say more power to her. |
| [01:22:00] | Cromz: | being I'm a 43 year old vampire goth myself.. |
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| [01:24:00] | Cromz: | http://www.cromz.com/albums/album16/notgoth2.sized.jpg see.. me last year, before some piercings and tats.. |
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| [01:24:00] | jarodwilson: | whoa |
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| [01:24:00] | Cromz: | jarodwilson: I used that guide on this rockin ahtlon64 3500. got a terrabyte storage on it too |
| [01:25:00] | jarodwilson: | No recent pix of me anywhere I know of... |
| [01:26:00] | ** kormoc waves ** | |
| [01:26:00] | Cromz: | I found out another thing mines doing wrong since I compiled and stuff. using lirc I can type the number like say 37.. it'll switch to 3 then to 7 :'( |
| [01:27:00] | jarodwilson: | I don't keep much of anything around, so I've found I typically sit around 50% utilized on a 650GB /video partition on my MBE |
| [01:27:00] | Cromz: | browse mode no workie.. music no workie.. but hey I'm happy it works for the most part lol |
| [01:27:00] | jarodwilson: | I never watch live tv |
| [01:27:00] | jarodwilson: | :) |
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| [01:27:00] | jarodwilson: | Don't really use the music part either. Pretty much just recorded TV and mythvideo (DVD rips) |
| [01:28:00] | Cromz: | http://www.cromz.com/phpsysinfo my system, desktop, dual monitor, web-server, private ftp, mud game server, file server and my mythbox.. :) |
| [01:29:00] | jarodwilson: | Beefy. |
| [01:30:00] | jarodwilson: | Me, I have most of the above, but split across multiple machines |
| [01:30:00] | jarodwilson: | My current backend is my old workstation, a dual Athlon MP 2000. Mail server is a dual Athlon MP 2200. Workstation is an Athlon64 3500. |
| [01:31:00] | Cromz: | heh I would too.. but I like in a double-wide trailer.. and waiting to see if I get to move to london for 6 months to a year. so I'm cutting back on eq.. |
| [01:31:00] | jarodwilson: | I'm hoping I can move again, but the 8ft rack in my garage goes w/me. ;-) |
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| [01:31:00] | Cromz: | er life.. not like I hate this place. |
| [01:31:00] | jarodwilson: | er, move soon, not again. |
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| [01:31:00] | _shad: | Any idea when there will be deb's for .18? |
| [01:31:00] | jarodwilson: | to somewhere closer to work, whereve that may be... |
| [01:33:00] | Cromz: | well if I ever win the loto.. I'll hire ya.. and we'll setup a myth system shop. LOL sell'em pre-made hahahahaah |
| [01:33:00] | Cromz: | like I'd ever win anyways.. |
| [01:33:00] | Cromz: | hahah |
| [01:33:00] | jarodwilson: | :) |
| [01:35:00] | Cromz: | being you got a son already.. bet you hoping for a girl |
| [01:35:00] | jarodwilson: | yeah, kinda |
| [01:36:00] | Cromz: | :) |
| [01:36:00] | Cromz: | I was hoping for a boy.. but I got 3 girls and I'm not about to keep trying lol |
| [01:36:00] | jarodwilson: | plan is to stop after 2, so part of me wants one of both |
| [01:36:00] | jarodwilson: | was definitely leaning boy for #1 |
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| [01:37:00] | Cromz: | it's ok to hope for.. long as it doesn't effect you if it's not. not the kids fault :) |
| [01:37:00] | jarodwilson: | Yeah, that's why I don't hope too hard. Definitely won't be disappointed if I have two boys. |
| [01:38:00] | jarodwilson: | esp. if both take after mom and dad on the athletic side... |
| [01:38:00] | jarodwilson: | :) |
| [01:38:00] | ** jarodwilson went to college on a full athletic scholarship for baseball, my wife for volleyball ** | |
| [01:39:00] | Cromz: | ok time for me to back to all the compiling options on myth, I need to figure out this darn osd , edit mode, lirc entry mode silliness I did.. if I don't see you again jarod I wish you the best :) |
| [01:40:00] | jarodwilson: | I'll be 'round here more now |
| [01:40:00] | jarodwilson: | But thanks much! |
| [01:40:00] | jarodwilson: | Good luck with it all... |
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| [01:41:00] | Cromz: | :) kool, when you get to know me more, I joke alot online. but all in fun. no slamming people unless I know you in rl, or I feel you desirve it.. haha ;) |
| [01:42:00] | jarodwilson: | works for me |
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| [02:01:00] | shibz: | has anyone figured out how to get myth tv working with all-in-wonder cards yet? |
| [02:02:00] | shibz: | I know its possible, I got windows MCE working with it and microsoft said it wasn't possible |
| [02:03:00] | jarodwilson: | search the mailing list archive, this has been covered plenty of times in the past |
| [02:04:00] | jarodwilson: | short version: it ain't gonna work unless you fix the crappy drivers for it |
| [02:04:00] | shibz: | well, the newest post about that I can find there is from over a year ago... |
| [02:04:00] | jarodwilson: | I didn't say how far in the past. :) |
| [02:05:00] | jarodwilson: | But its been covered. Somewhere in there is a relatively detailed bit on why. |
| [02:05:00] | jarodwilson: | Long story short, the drivers for the AIW only partially implement the v4l spec, and the missing part is what's needed to be able to actually use the card. |
| [02:05:00] | shibz: | thats dumb |
| [02:06:00] | shibz: | I should have never bought that card |
| [02:06:00] | jarodwilson: | something about packed video versus planar YUV, or something like that... |
| [02:06:00] | jarodwilson: | Not to mention ATI's Linux support in general is kinda shabby. Their fglrx drivers suck beans for HDTV... |
| [02:07:00] | mchou: | yeah, ati is just no fun on linux |
| [02:07:00] | shibz: | well, can you recommend a cheap tv tuner card that I could buy as an alternative? |
| [02:07:00] | shibz: | good quality |
| [02:07:00] | marmoset: | shibz: I think the pvr150s are pretty inexpensive |
| [02:07:00] | mchou: | pvr150 |
| [02:07:00] | jarodwilson: | Depends on how trouble-free you want it to be. |
| [02:07:00] | jarodwilson: | The 150 is pretty cheap, but not quite perfectly supported yet. |
| [02:07:00] | mchou: | $60 at CC after rebates. |
| [02:08:00] | jarodwilson: | Mine works great tho |
| [02:08:00] | mchou: | or get PVR 250 (if you can find them) |
| [02:08:00] | jarodwilson: | hw scaling of video almost works on the 150 and 500 now... |
| [02:08:00] | jarodwilson: | (or rather, worked for a few 0.3.x revs, is now broken) |
| [02:08:00] | mchou: | hehe :) |
| [02:09:00] | jarodwilson: | The PVR-250 is probably the easiest to get working, most reliable, best quality card around (short of HDTV). |
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| [02:09:00] | shibz: | I have an avermedia card now, I cant remember what model tho |
| [02:09:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: you intend to use qam on your older air2pc? |
| [02:09:00] | mchou: | shibz: m179? |
| [02:09:00] | jarodwilson: | wish I could |
| [02:09:00] | shibz: | I have no idea |
| [02:10:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: hehe. |
| [02:10:00] | jarodwilson: | Doesn't work on my Air2PC, can't lock on a damned thing (well, I can w/azap, but never get any data) |
| [02:10:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: you talk to anyone re air2pc? |
| [02:10:00] | jarodwilson: | Taylor Jacob on the dev list. |
| [02:10:00] | jarodwilson: | Not long after I got the card, it was determined they don't actually fully support QAM freqs. |
| [02:10:00] | mchou: | no, I meant from where you got it :) |
| [02:11:00] | jarodwilson: | Some, yes. But not all. |
| [02:11:00] | jarodwilson: | Ah. |
| [02:11:00] | jarodwilson: | Nah. |
| [02:11:00] | jarodwilson: | Just moved it to OTA. |
| [02:11:00] | shibz: | AVerMedia UltraTV? 1500 MCE I think |
| [02:11:00] | jarodwilson: | I'm just going to wait for a rev2 or get an HD-3000. |
| [02:11:00] | mchou: | shibz: what's wrong w/that card?? |
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| [02:12:00] | shibz: | well, I record so much shit that I need 2 cards |
| [02:12:00] | jarodwilson: | I think the 1500MCE is a blackbird ref design card, needs the cx88-blackbird driver, which isn't very mature or stable yet |
| [02:12:00] | mchou: | shibz: oes it have HW encode? |
| [02:12:00] | jarodwilson: | yes |
| [02:12:00] | marmoset: | shibz: get a pvr500 :) |
| [02:12:00] | jarodwilson: | +1 |
| [02:12:00] | marmoset: | two tuners on one card, and you're done |
| [02:12:00] | lashkar: | is there a page on ivtvctl that describes what all the registers are for? somehow i have gotten SAA7115 reg[STATUS#1 – 0x1E] = 48 |
| [02:12:00] | lashkar: | Color Standard (D0-D1): BW/No color |
| [02:13:00] | lashkar: | that in my card and i want to fix it :) |
| [02:13:00] | jarodwilson: | well, time for me to roll out.. |
| [02:13:00] | jarodwilson: | later all... |
| [02:13:00] | mchou: | later. |
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| [02:16:00] | shibz: | ouch: WinTV-PVR-500MCE NTSC: $199.00 |
| [02:16:00] | mchou: | shibz: nah, try amazon. |
| [02:16:00] | mchou: | 140 or so shipped. |
| [02:17:00] | shibz: | ya, its still bad for me |
| [02:17:00] | shibz: | I don't work, I am too lazy |
| [02:18:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [02:18:00] | shibz: | I plan on living off my parents for at least another year |
| [02:20:00] | ZMorek: | I've got screenshots of menus that have weird coloring on it |
| [02:20:00] | ZMorek: | where should I upload them? |
| [02:20:00] | ZMorek: | so I can link them |
| [02:21:00] | ZMorek: | I can't figure out why there's these weird green and red squares in the menus in mythfrontend |
| [02:21:00] | shibz: | will myth TV be able to be controled and send live TV through a network to my xbox |
| [02:21:00] | shibz: | ? |
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| [02:23:00] | Uberbot: | shibz, I send it to my Linux machine w/o problems. |
| [02:24:00] | shibz: | that speed is your network? |
| [02:25:00] | Uberbot: | 100Mb. |
| [02:25:00] | shibz: | and no lag? |
| [02:25:00] | Uberbot: | None. |
| [02:25:00] | shibz: | I read that 100 was to slow for that |
| [02:25:00] | shibz: | meh |
| [02:26:00] | Uberbot: | In fact, my kids watch tv on the bigscreen while I stream it to my linux machine, while my wife streams it to her xp machine. |
| [02:26:00] | Uberbot: | Concurrently. |
| [02:26:00] | shibz: | 3 streams at once? |
| [02:26:00] | Uberbot: | And my myth box uses nfs to store it's files. |
| [02:26:00] | Uberbot: | ... While recording another program. |
| [02:26:00] | Uberbot: | Do not worry about it. <grin> |
| [02:26:00] | Uberbot: | I have done this. |
| [02:26:00] | shibz: | you have to have 1 tuner for each stream, right? |
| [02:27:00] | Uberbot: | No. |
| [02:27:00] | Uberbot: | I record one. |
| [02:27:00] | Uberbot: | We watch 3 others that were previously recorded. |
| [02:27:00] | shibz: | aah, i see |
| [02:27:00] | Beirdo: | OK, some rich bastard set off an alarm |
| [02:27:00] | Uberbot: | shibz. It so cool. |
| [02:27:00] | Beirdo: | an alarm has been detected on the 37th floor |
| [02:28:00] | Beirdo: | AKA the penthouse level, I think |
| [02:28:00] | shibz: | can you change the channel and scheduel recordings remotely? |
| [02:28:00] | Uberbot: | oh ya. |
| [02:28:00] | shibz: | k |
| [02:28:00] | Uberbot: | It's like having a tv in my office. |
| [02:28:00] | Beirdo: | at least it's during waking hours for once |
| [02:28:00] | shibz: | heh I was thinking about buying the Xbox Media Extender thing |
| [02:29:00] | Beirdo: | last time was at 4:30am |
| [02:29:00] | Uberbot: | na. |
| [02:29:00] | Uberbot: | My friends lust over my myth boxen. |
| [02:29:00] | shibz: | ya, now I just need to convince my parents to upgrade the comp to a 500 PVR |
| [02:29:00] | Beirdo: | hate to be a fireman right now |
| [02:29:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [02:29:00] | shibz: | heh |
| [02:29:00] | Beirdo: | that's a fuck of a lot of stairs |
| [02:30:00] | Beirdo: | and there's the sirens |
| [02:30:00] | Uberbot: | So, I upgraded knoppmyth yesterday. |
| [02:30:00] | Uberbot: | I backed up the db and did the upgrade. |
| [02:30:00] | Uberbot: | Then I restored the db |
| [02:30:00] | Uberbot: | Now all of the scheduled recording times are borked. |
| [02:31:00] | Uberbot: | Any ideas? |
| [02:31:00] | Beirdo: | define borked |
| [02:31:00] | shibz: | bork: http://www.google.com/intl/xx-bork/ |
| [02:31:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [02:31:00] | Beirdo: | I mean in his specific case :) |
| [02:32:00] | Uberbot: | The times are several hours off. |
| [02:32:00] | Uberbot: | Sorry about that. |
| [02:33:00] | Beirdo: | if you do "date" from the command line, is the timezone correct? |
| [02:33:00] | Uberbot: | Yes, the sys and hw clocks are all correct. |
| [02:33:00] | ZMorek: | http://www.tinypic.com/4jxmdl |
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| [02:34:00] | Beirdo: | what version of Qt, what version of myth? |
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| [02:34:00] | Uberbot: | Myth .17 on the latest Knoppmyth. |
| [02:35:00] | ZMorek: | http://www.tinypic.com/4jxmw6 it doesn't matter what theme I choose |
| [02:35:00] | Beirdo: | what version of Qt? |
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| [02:37:00] | Uberbot: | I don't know. How do I tell? |
| [02:37:00] | Beirdo: | apt-cache policy qt |
| [02:37:00] | Beirdo: | Knopp is based on Debian, no? |
| [02:38:00] | Uberbot: | Yes, it is. |
| [02:38:00] | Uberbot: | I just get a page of error messages... |
| [02:38:00] | Uberbot: | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.physik.fu-berlin.de unichrome/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.physik.fu-berlin.de_%7eglaweh_debian_unichrome_Packages) – stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| [02:38:00] | Uberbot: | W: Unable to locate package qt |
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| [02:40:00] | Beirdo: | try qt3 |
| [02:41:00] | Beirdo: | libqt3 maybe |
| [02:41:00] | Uberbot: | Neither one worked. |
| [02:42:00] | Beirdo: | libqt3-dev? |
| [02:42:00] | Uberbot: | Nope. |
| [02:42:00] | Beirdo: | damned if I know then |
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| [02:43:00] | Beirdo: | jams: you there? |
| [02:43:00] | shibz: | how well does a windows MCE remote control work with myth TV? |
| [02:43:00] | Uberbot: | Does libqt3c102-mt mean anything? |
| [02:43:00] | Beirdo: | Yay... "we have experienced a false alarm...." |
| [02:44:00] | Beirdo: | OK, what version of it? |
| [02:44:00] | marmoset: | Uberbot: apt-cache show libqt3c102-mt |
| [02:44:00] | marmoset: | there's version in there |
| [02:44:00] | Uberbot: | Version: 3:3.3.3–7 |
| [02:45:00] | Beirdo: | so much for that idea |
| [02:45:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [02:45:00] | Beirdo: | you have run mythfilldatabase? |
| [02:45:00] | Uberbot: | yes. Right after restoring the db. |
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| [02:47:00] | shibz: | anyone in here ever use a windows media center remote with myth TV? |
| [02:47:00] | Beirdo: | dunno, Uberbot |
| [02:47:00] | david80: | hey, does anyone know where the modules.conf file is in ubuntu? I need to make some changes to that file apparently, but I can't seem to find it |
| [02:47:00] | Beirdo: | locate is your friend |
| [02:48:00] | Uberbot: | Thanx for your time. |
| [02:48:00] | david80: | I have searched for it via ls and the gui search feature and it comes up with nothing |
| [02:48:00] | Beirdo: | and on my ubuntu machines it's in /etc |
| [02:48:00] | david80: | thats where the documentation says it is |
| [02:49:00] | david80: | did you use the package install or did you build your own binaries? |
| [02:49:00] | Beirdo: | but you are supposed to put your stuff in other files, and that gets generated |
| [02:49:00] | kormoc: | http://irc.evtek.fi/urllog/urllog/2005/04/15/vim.gif |
| [02:49:00] | Beirdo: | man update-modules |
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| [02:49:00] | Beirdo: | the files to change are in /etc/modutils |
| [02:49:00] | Beirdo: | I am not running myth on those machines |
| [02:50:00] | Beirdo: | I use FC1 for myth |
| [02:51:00] | david80: | ok, then I am confused |
| [02:51:00] | david80: | from what I have read, I need to put in a couple arguements in modules.conf to tell it which capture card I have |
| [02:51:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [02:51:00] | david80: | I dont see where I am supposed to put those arguements now |
| [02:51:00] | Beirdo: | and ubuntu generates that file from the stuff in /etc/modutils |
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| [02:52:00] | david80: | ok, in there I have alsa-base, apm, evms, lvm-common, and nvidia-kernel-nkc |
| [02:53:00] | david80: | what module would I make the edits for my tv card in? |
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| [02:55:00] | david80: | ...Im so lost and confused right now |
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| [03:04:00] | dhofstra: | david80 what capture card do you have? |
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| [03:08:00] | david80: | ati tv wonder |
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| [03:11:00] | jams: | Beirdo, yes? |
| [03:12:00] | Beirdo: | never mind. :) |
| [03:12:00] | jams: | okie dokie |
| [03:12:00] | Beirdo: | there was someone having some knoppmyth issues, and I remembered you were a user |
| [03:13:00] | jams: | yep that I was for a while |
| [03:14:00] | Beirdo: | I think it got figured out |
| [03:14:00] | david80: | is there somewhere I can look for instructions on how to get my ati card setup properly? |
| [03:14:00] | jams: | not like it's all that different :) |
| [03:14:00] | david80: | it seems to be something with the bttv setup; but I cant seem to find where to do it in ubuntu |
| [03:14:00] | Beirdo: | jams: it was just the name of the qt lib we were looking for |
| [03:15:00] | Beirdo: | but it got figured out |
| [03:15:00] | Beirdo: | david80: /etc/modutils |
| [03:16:00] | Beirdo: | my actions file there has: |
| [03:16:00] | Beirdo: | post-install bttv insmod tuner |
| [03:16:00] | Beirdo: | post-remove bttv rmmod tuner |
| [03:16:00] | Beirdo: | just look around |
| [03:16:00] | david80: | ok beirdo, what do I do in there, should there be a file for the card or do I make one or what? |
| [03:16:00] | david80: | actions file? |
| [03:16:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not completely sure |
| [03:17:00] | Beirdo: | you'll need to talk to someone who's used it longer |
| [03:17:00] | david80: | ok, got anyone to point me to? |
| [03:17:00] | david80: | this is driving me nuts...lol |
| [03:18:00] | Beirdo: | dunno. |
| [03:18:00] | david80: | lol |
| [03:18:00] | david80: | hum |
| [03:19:00] | dhofstra: | david80: I asked before which card you have |
| [03:19:00] | david80: | all of the mailing list postings I have seen with my error all used the modules.conf file to do the editing |
| [03:19:00] | david80: | ati tv wonder dho |
| [03:19:00] | dhofstra: | pro or VE? |
| [03:19:00] | david80: | sorry, I am new to irc and dont know much of anything about it |
| [03:19:00] | david80: | just ati tv wonder |
| [03:19:00] | Beirdo: | ubuntu builds the file |
| [03:19:00] | david80: | neither pro or ve |
| [03:19:00] | dhofstra: | hrm |
| [03:19:00] | Beirdo: | so man update-modules as a start |
| [03:20:00] | david80: | man update-modules says that it is out of date and no longer used |
| [03:20:00] | david80: | lol |
| [03:20:00] | david80: | update-modules is an obsolete command. In its current form it will exe‐ |
| [03:20:00] | david80: | cute /sbin/update-modules.modutils (the old update-modules program pro‐ |
| [03:20:00] | david80: | vided by the modutils package) if it exists and do nothing else. |
| [03:20:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [03:21:00] | david80: | yeah...this is fun...lol |
| [03:21:00] | dhofstra: | Beirdo: you are saying that ubuntu should configure it for him? What happened to the good ole days of manually editing /etc/modprobe.conf heh |
| [03:21:00] | david80: | why is it that your chat is showing in blue and mine is showing in grey, any ideas? |
| [03:21:00] | Beirdo: | I'm saying that ubuntu generates that file from other files |
| [03:21:00] | david80: | ya...there is no /etc/modules.conf |
| [03:21:00] | dhofstra: | david80 doesnt ubuntu use 2.6 kernel? |
| [03:22:00] | dhofstra: | it would be /etc/modprobe.conf... |
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| [03:22:00] | david80: | um, how do I determine the kernel, sorry, trying to convert to linux and having a rough go at it |
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| [03:22:00] | dhofstra: | uname -r |
| [03:22:00] | david80: | 2.6.10-5–386 |
| [03:22:00] | david80: | ty |
| [03:22:00] | dhofstra: | so, you will be looking for a /etc/modprobe.conf |
| [03:23:00] | dhofstra: | (same thing as the /etc/modules conf in 2.4 kernels |
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| [03:23:00] | david80: | modprobe.conf doesn't exist |
| [03:24:00] | dhofstra: | now seriously, how can modprobe.conf not exist? this must be what beirdo was trying to say...I'll read the prior messages |
| [03:24:00] | Beirdo: | run update-modules |
| [03:25:00] | Beirdo: | quit arguing and do it |
| [03:25:00] | david80: | do I need root priveledges just do see modprobe.conf? |
| [03:25:00] | david80: | ok, it ran...but didnt do anything I could notice |
| [03:25:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [03:25:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [03:25:00] | david80: | just took me back to the command prompt |
| [03:25:00] | david80: | lol |
| [03:26:00] | david80: | sorry, not trying to be difficult |
| [03:26:00] | Beirdo: | I'm gonna watch tv |
| [03:26:00] | mjc_: | anyone else running myth on ubuntu amd64? having problems w/ mythfrontend segfaulting |
| [03:26:00] | david80: | mjc, do you have a modules.conf or modprobe.conf? |
| [03:27:00] | dhofstra: | david80: in a terminal, do "sudo ls -la /etc/modpr*" |
| [03:27:00] | mr_hoople: | anyone here know the routine to edit OTA-HD channels in MythWeb? |
| [03:28:00] | mr_hoople: | damned if I can find the thread... |
| [03:28:00] | david80: | not there dho |
| [03:28:00] | dhofstra: | david80: sorry, dunno then, but that is seriously messed up |
| [03:28:00] | david80: | I get aliases, also-base, arch-arch-aliases, ibm_acpi.modprobe, isapnp, nvidia-kernel-nkc, toshiba_acpi.modprobe |
| [03:29:00] | david80: | alsa-base* |
| [03:29:00] | mr_hoople: | uisng air2pc, good channel scan, can tune/record/playback but... |
| [03:29:00] | david80: | wish I could help...havent hardly got mine up yet |
| [03:29:00] | mr_hoople: | ...the lineups are haywired and channels are duped |
| [03:29:00] | david80: | cant get color on mine right now |
| [03:30:00] | mr_hoople: | i know there's a thread but can't find it for the life of me |
| [03:30:00] | rtsai1111: | ubuntu amd64? |
| [03:30:00] | rtsai1111: | i'm actually running debian pure64 with no problem |
| [03:30:00] | rtsai1111: | CVS? |
| [03:31:00] | david80: | do I have to do anything special to install my ati tv wonder, or should ubuntu practically do all the setup for me? |
| [03:33:00] | mr_hoople: | never mind all, just found it |
| [03:33:00] | mr_hoople: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . nels;#122302 |
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| [03:34:00] | dem: | anyone know when captions on ivtv devices will be supported, since ivtv now supports vbi |
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| [03:37:00] | LghtSword: | hey when upgrading to 0.18, do I need to "make uninstall" the old 0.17 first |
| [03:37:00] | LghtSword: | or can I just replace it |
| [03:39:00] | david80: | how do I kill mythtvfrontend? |
| [03:40:00] | LghtSword: | killall mythfrontend |
| [03:40:00] | LghtSword: | I'm also assuming 0.18 fixes the guide being off by 1 hour issue |
| [03:40:00] | david80: | ty, it locked up for some reason |
| [03:41:00] | LghtSword: | that sucks |
| [03:41:00] | LghtSword: | can someone plz tell me if it is a bad idea to "make uninstall" the previous version of mythtv when upgrading |
| [03:41:00] | david80: | no kidding |
| [03:41:00] | LghtSword: | I don't want it to destroy my existing db or something |
| [03:41:00] | david80: | no idea, this is my first experience with it, havent installed it before |
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| [03:42:00] | LghtSword: | well screw it then, that's what I'm doing |
| [03:42:00] | david80: | lol |
| [03:42:00] | david80: | well, good luck |
| [03:42:00] | david80: | just dont toast mysql |
| [03:43:00] | LghtSword: | I won't.. |
| [03:43:00] | rtsai1111: | make uninstall is fine |
| [03:43:00] | rtsai1111: | actually even slightly recommended |
| [03:45:00] | LghtSword: | ok |
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| [04:35:00] | mr_hoople: | hah haaaah! just got down from the attic, gonna re-scan, tweak the channel... |
| [04:35:00] | mr_hoople: | ..."do a little dance" |
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| [04:58:00] | DJ_Rican: | heeeellloooo nurse! |
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| [05:01:00] | riksta: | topping: :) |
| [05:01:00] | topping: | yo! |
| [05:01:00] | riksta: | get out! |
| [05:01:00] | riksta: | :P |
| [05:01:00] | topping: | haa! |
| [05:01:00] | topping: | dammit, i want to watch my vids from mythweb |
| [05:02:00] | riksta: | symlink |
| [05:02:00] | topping: | this x86_64 thing is ticking me off |
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| [05:03:00] | riksta: | which is? |
| [05:03:00] | topping: | i can't get a viewer to play a divx file to save my life |
| [05:03:00] | topping: | it's always some massive number of packages that are required |
| [05:03:00] | riksta: | hahaha really? |
| [05:04:00] | riksta: | mplayer? |
| [05:04:00] | topping: | fedora sucks for doing transitive closure of package dependencies |
| [05:04:00] | kormoc: | needs 32 bit libs |
| [05:04:00] | topping: | i started on that once and it just never ended and i gave up |
| [05:05:00] | riksta: | the majority of PM software stinks tbh |
| [05:05:00] | riksta: | portage is not perfect, but alrite |
| [05:10:00] | kormoc: | portage is grand imho |
| [05:11:00] | DJ_Rican: | if i'm using the hauppauge grey remote in the find a listing to record screen, what button is info? |
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| [05:19:00] | mchou: | defaultro: you around? |
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| [05:31:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys – im having a permission issue. I have a link to my DVD Drive for both music and DVDs in myth to use. It works fine and then when i change CDs it stops working. it has to do with permissions because if i change them to all uses on the drive, then it works! i don't get it |
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| [05:57:00] | riksta: | !seen cardoe |
| [05:59:00] | GotD0t: | !seen gotd0t |
| [05:59:00] | GotD0t: | hehe |
| [06:00:00] | kormoc: | !seen John_Paul_II |
| [06:02:00] | Hamstaman: | !seen George_Ringo |
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| [06:07:00] | ** xris doesn't get the !seen thing ** | |
| [06:07:00] | ** kormoc doesn't neather ** | |
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| [06:08:00] | ShockValue: | hi all, im trying to get my my directv reciever working with a serial connection, but i've never used serial in linux before, so im not sure how to test it. |
| [06:08:00] | ShockValue: | i ahve the cable plugged in, and the script running (i think) but it kicks out an error |
| [06:09:00] | ShockValue: | not sure if its the script, the cable, the serial config, or the reciever :) |
| [06:09:00] | ShockValue: | Myth mythtv # /home/mythtv/directv.pl 250 |
| [06:09:00] | ShockValue: | Turning on IRD |
| [06:09:00] | ShockValue: | |
| [06:09:00] | ShockValue: | RECV: Error (0x00) |
| [06:10:00] | ShockValue: | --- i get the same error as my mythuser or as root |
| [06:10:00] | ShockValue: | any suggestions on where to start? |
| [06:10:00] | Uberbot: | If I want to move the db to another server, is all I have to do is edit /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt? |
| [06:11:00] | mchou: | riksta: get the new mobo? |
| [06:11:00] | riksta: | no |
| [06:11:00] | riksta: | didn't have time today |
| [06:11:00] | riksta: | now my box is just locking up randomly |
| [06:11:00] | riksta: | with no cards |
| [06:11:00] | riksta: | :) |
| [06:12:00] | mchou: | for real?? |
| [06:12:00] | mchou: | run memtest? |
| [06:12:00] | riksta: | yeah man |
| [06:12:00] | riksta: | i did |
| [06:12:00] | mchou: | and? |
| [06:12:00] | riksta: | was fine |
| [06:13:00] | mchou: | hmm. |
| [06:13:00] | topping: | sounds like bad peripherals |
| [06:13:00] | topping: | like the io chipset |
| [06:13:00] | mchou: | time to chuck it out the window. |
| [06:13:00] | riksta: | topping: we 've tried so much shit you wouldn't beleive |
| [06:13:00] | topping: | sisoft sandra |
| [06:13:00] | riksta: | believe |
| [06:14:00] | topping: | run a disk basher on it? |
| [06:14:00] | mchou: | probably CPU going bad :) |
| [06:14:00] | mchou: | classic symptoms |
| [06:14:00] | topping: | i would think memtest would catch that? |
| [06:14:00] | riksta: | well tbh |
| [06:14:00] | riksta: | i did overclock my CPU for a long while |
| [06:14:00] | riksta: | i stopped about 2 months ago |
| [06:14:00] | mchou: | no, memtest only catches mem* |
| [06:15:00] | mchou: | how much overclocking? |
| [06:15:00] | riksta: | ran at 200fsb instead of 166 |
| [06:15:00] | topping: | but what *checks* the mem? if you had a bad cpu, wouldn't it be unable to check the mem at high speed? |
| [06:15:00] | topping: | (just curious) |
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| [06:16:00] | mchou: | cpu checks the mem, but only little CPU gets used. |
| [06:16:00] | mchou: | not comprehensive test of CPU. |
| [06:16:00] | topping: | ic |
| [06:17:00] | riksta: | hey mchou ...also |
| [06:17:00] | riksta: | remember the ERRs in interrupts |
| [06:17:00] | riksta: | i got apic and acpi off again |
| [06:17:00] | riksta: | and guess what |
| [06:17:00] | riksta: | NO ERRs now |
| [06:17:00] | riksta: | lol |
| [06:17:00] | mchou: | serves you right for overclocking. |
| [06:17:00] | mchou: | lil proc meltdown. |
| [06:18:00] | riksta: | i did it pretty much without realising |
| [06:18:00] | riksta: | when i first gotit |
| [06:18:00] | riksta: | anyway |
| [06:18:00] | riksta: | i gotta try a new CPU soon |
| [06:18:00] | riksta: | my flatmate has an xp 2600 same as mine |
| [06:18:00] | mchou: | lol, I forsee a crime wave :) |
| [06:19:00] | mchou: | foresee* |
| [06:19:00] | topping: | haaa! |
| [06:19:00] | riksta: | why? |
| [06:19:00] | mchou: | just because :) |
| [06:19:00] | topping: | (swapping cpus) |
| [06:19:00] | riksta: | hardly a "wave" :P |
| [06:19:00] | riksta: | i'll stick the dodgy one back in his pc ;) |
| [06:19:00] | mchou: | but still very unethical. |
| [06:20:00] | riksta: | naw.... im jokin :) |
| [06:20:00] | riksta: | i just meant borrow it |
| [06:20:00] | mchou: | With friend like you, he wont need enemies :) |
| [06:20:00] | riksta: | they aren't expensive |
| [06:20:00] | topping: | so buy one yourself lol |
| [06:20:00] | riksta: | dude i wasn't meaning steal it in the first place :P |
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| [06:21:00] | riksta: | i aint gonna fuckin buy one unless i know it's that |
| [06:21:00] | mchou: | local store had nice sempron 2800+ + mobo combo for $90..... |
| [06:21:00] | topping: | so i got mplayer installed on this x86_64 boatanchor and i'm trying to get divx files loading |
| [06:21:00] | riksta: | yes...but we are in rip-off britain :) |
| [06:21:00] | mchou: | that be 45# UK..... |
| [06:21:00] | topping: | riksta: i can post you one if need be |
| [06:21:00] | riksta: | topping: nah its cool man |
| [06:21:00] | riksta: | postage == vat...probably |
| [06:22:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys – i'm having permission troubles with mythmusic |
| [06:22:00] | topping: | riksta: nah, u were letting me borrow it |
| [06:22:00] | riksta: | i'm confused |
| [06:22:00] | Uberbot: | If I use the recording editor and rip out a bunch of a program, when it transcodes, shouldn't the filesize change? |
| [06:22:00] | abarbaccia: | when i make a link to my cdrom drive, it refuses to read the disk – it says that the device is not ready – but that's because the link is messed up, because if i chmod 777 on the link then do it – it works perfect – any ideas how to get around this? |
| [06:24:00] | abarbaccia: | can someone tell me how they have mythmusic configured? maybe this will help |
| [06:24:00] | abarbaccia: | what do you have listed as the CDRom device |
| [06:24:00] | mchou: | topping: send your boat anchor to me. I'll take good care of it |
| [06:24:00] | topping: | haha |
| [06:25:00] | mchou: | topping: you're too incompetent to use fedora anyways. |
| [06:25:00] | ** topping is a freakin retard ** | |
| [06:26:00] | ShockValue: | so, anyone using a serial connection to control their directv reciever? |
| [06:26:00] | abarbaccia: | topping, mchou can either of you help me with my problem, it seems so simple, yet it doesn't make any sense |
| [06:26:00] | mchou: | topping: you realize those windows dlls mplayer uses arent 64-bit? :) |
| [06:27:00] | topping: | i dl'd the 32 bit version |
| [06:27:00] | mchou: | abarbaccia: the solution is simple. |
| [06:27:00] | abarbaccia: | ... |
| [06:28:00] | mchou: | topping: you using 32bit kernel or 64 bit kernel? |
| [06:28:00] | abarbaccia: | mchou, does that mean you have a simple solution for me? or does that mean im screwed? |
| [06:28:00] | topping: | 64 kernel |
| [06:28:00] | mchou: | abarbaccia: check your security settings. |
| [06:28:00] | mchou: | topping: then you are indeed an idiot. |
| [06:28:00] | abarbaccia: | mchou, where whould that be? (im not a big fedora guy) |
| [06:28:00] | topping: | hehe |
| [06:28:00] | mchou: | abarbaccia: check the fedora docs. |
| [06:29:00] | topping: | getting the 64 mplayer deps together was a total pita and i gave up |
| [06:29:00] | riksta: | mchou: topping i have an athlon 1100 in a pc in the hall |
| [06:29:00] | mchou: | topping: hehe, see, idiot!! |
| [06:29:00] | riksta: | do you reckon i should just whack that in |
| [06:29:00] | topping: | :-) |
| [06:30:00] | mchou: | apt will resolve circular dependencies. |
| [06:30:00] | topping: | yah i gotta get apt on this box |
| [06:30:00] | mchou: | or whatever fedora uses these days. |
| [06:30:00] | topping: | have it on the mythbackend box, but this is my desktop |
| [06:30:00] | riksta: | portage > * |
| [06:30:00] | riksta: | :) |
| [06:30:00] | riksta: | although i get the occasional circular dep |
| [06:31:00] | mchou: | topping: what mobo and chipset is this? |
| [06:32:00] | topping: | asus sk8v + amd64 3000 i think |
| [06:32:00] | riksta: | amd64 sounds like too much of a ballache |
| [06:32:00] | marmoset: | riksta: for extremely small values of * |
| [06:32:00] | marmoset: | ;) |
| [06:32:00] | mchou: | amd64 is da bomb. |
| [06:32:00] | riksta: | haha marmoset |
| [06:32:00] | riksta: | yeah, it blows up |
| [06:32:00] | riksta: | :) |
| [06:33:00] | riksta: | ok so...shall i go grab that old athlon 1100 |
| [06:33:00] | riksta: | will it work ok |
| [06:33:00] | topping: | the processor? sure! |
| [06:33:00] | topping: | or is it not X{ |
| [06:33:00] | riksta: | eh |
| [06:33:00] | topping: | athlon XP? |
| [06:33:00] | riksta: | its not xp |
| [06:33:00] | riksta: | thats why im asking |
| [06:33:00] | topping: | ohh |
| [06:33:00] | riksta: | im sure it shud work |
| [06:33:00] | riksta: | mchou: ? |
| [06:33:00] | topping: | it might not even fit |
| [06:34:00] | mchou: | depend on mobo, but should work. |
| [06:34:00] | riksta: | ballz |
| [06:34:00] | riksta: | ok imma try it |
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| [06:34:00] | topping: | if it doesn't fit, push harder |
| [06:34:00] | riksta: | shut up |
| [06:34:00] | riksta: | :) |
| [06:34:00] | topping: | haha |
| [06:34:00] | riksta: | back in a few |
| [06:34:00] | mchou: | riksta goes off to melt down another CPU..... |
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| [06:34:00] | riksta: | mchou: screw you too! |
| [06:34:00] | riksta: | :) |
| [06:34:00] | riksta: | i have a problem with heatsinks |
| [06:35:00] | riksta: | i can never get them off :P |
| [06:35:00] | mchou: | you're the one with the ballache :) |
| [06:35:00] | riksta: | just like ya mam's nickers mchou ! |
| [06:35:00] | topping: | riksta: you can't get them off because you never put them on in the first place |
| [06:35:00] | riksta: | aahaha |
| [06:35:00] | riksta: | stop the bullying |
| [06:35:00] | riksta: | ;) |
| [06:36:00] | topping: | i remember my first pentium 90 that needed a fan |
| [06:36:00] | topping: | damn i gotta sleep |
| [06:36:00] | topping: | laters |
| [06:36:00] | riksta: | i had a 486 dx4 100 |
| [06:36:00] | riksta: | rite |
| [06:36:00] | riksta: | back in a few |
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| [06:38:00] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: you there? |
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| [06:57:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys- how do i upgrade to 0.18 through apt-get – or are there no packages yet? |
| [06:59:00] | marmoset: | is there a global setting for myth so that it'll delete old things to make room for new ones? I added a bunch of programs recently and it ran out of space and stopped recording new things, and that wasn't my goal ;) |
| [06:59:00] | marmoset: | although I do have the "keep X of these" set for a bunch of programs, maybe that's why? I figured it would still just delete the oldest of various things if space got too low |
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| [07:01:00] | knoppix: | hello its me |
| [07:01:00] | knoppix is now known as riksta | |
| [07:01:00] | riksta: | couldn't boot into gentoo coz everything compiled for athlonxp |
| [07:01:00] | riksta: | but |
| [07:01:00] | riksta: | im in knoppix |
| [07:01:00] | riksta: | and tvcard is fuckin workin! |
| [07:02:00] | riksta: | guess it's cpu |
| [07:03:00] | abarbaccia: | hey – on mythweb, i'm trying to change my keybindings but it wont let me do it for some reason – any advice how to do it manually? |
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| [07:17:00] | knoppix: | mchou, |
| [07:17:00] | knoppix is now known as riksta | |
| [07:17:00] | riksta: | mchou, i'm on knoppix with the athlon 1100 |
| [07:17:00] | riksta: | watching tv |
| [07:17:00] | riksta: | :s |
| [07:17:00] | mchou: | hehe... |
| [07:17:00] | riksta: | i did see one |
| [07:17:00] | riksta: | bttv0: timeout: drop=0 irq=2413/2575, risc=3728201c, bits: VSYNC HSYNC OFLOW |
| [07:17:00] | riksta: | but |
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| [07:17:00] | riksta: | i think thats normal |
| [07:18:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v stoffel | |
| [07:18:00] | riksta: | it reinitializes |
| [07:18:00] | mchou: | no, it aint normal. |
| [07:18:00] | riksta: | bttv0: reset, reinitialize |
| [07:18:00] | riksta: | bttv0: PLL: 28636363 => 35468950 . ok |
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| [07:18:00] | riksta: | but now it seems good |
| [07:18:00] | riksta: | no more |
| [07:18:00] | riksta: | usually |
| [07:18:00] | riksta: | i get a million |
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| [07:18:00] | riksta: | no ERR |
| [07:18:00] | mchou: | you got a million cause it was a fater proc. |
| [07:18:00] | mchou: | faster* |
| [07:19:00] | riksta: | i'm sure i woulda had more by now |
| [07:19:00] | riksta: | i get a million in like 2 seconds |
| [07:19:00] | riksta: | no/ |
| [07:19:00] | riksta: | ? |
| [07:19:00] | mchou: | I've never had a CPU die on me, lol. |
| [07:20:00] | riksta: | i dunno what to think now |
| [07:20:00] | riksta: | it "appears" that it's fine with this new cpu |
| [07:21:00] | riksta: | i guess i need to definitely take my flatmates XP 2600 and try that |
| [07:21:00] | riksta: | if that works too |
| [07:21:00] | riksta: | then i got it |
| [07:22:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys – why is it that when i change a keybinding on mythweb nothing happens? |
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| [07:46:00] | Achew22: | hello |
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| [08:05:00] | Uberbot: | So, what are people using the new job feature for? |
| [08:06:00] | Uberbot: | Where myth runs a script after recording... that is. |
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| [08:12:00] | obe1: | are there any bt878 cards with remote ctrls or are all companies using newer chips like hauppauge? |
| [08:13:00] | obe1: | any recommendations? |
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| [08:15:00] | Pio: | i just discovered a channel was missing from the lineup provided to me from datadirect. I manually added the channel to the channel table, but now i want to re-mythfilldatabase to populate that channel |
| [08:16:00] | Pio: | but when i run mythfilldatabase i get "Data is already present for Mon May 2 2005, skipping" |
| [08:16:00] | Pio: | would it be safe to do a 'delete from program'; or something to force mythfilldatabase to repopulate everything including my new channel? |
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| [08:19:00] | Pio: | that'd probably kill my Scheduled Recordings huh |
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| [08:25:00] | Pio: | mysql> delete from program; |
| [08:25:00] | Pio: | Query OK, 21967 rows affected (0.15 sec) |
| [08:25:00] | Pio: | one way to find out.... |
| [08:27:00] | Pio: | nice! it didnt kill my recordings |
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| [08:35:00] | marmoset: | Uberbot: I'm archiving everything I record via the user jobs |
| [08:35:00] | marmoset: | Uberbot: after it's done recording it archives the raw video via nuvexport to 320x240 divx in case I don't have time to watch something and it gets expired |
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| [08:44:00] | Uberbot: | Interesting. |
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| [08:53:00] | Pio: | boy if datadirect's lineups are missing a channel theres not much you can do about it huh |
| [08:54:00] | Pio: | anyone want to give me a database dump of their program table so i can strip out the spiketv entries and import them into mine? :) |
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| [08:56:00] | fridge: | are there any guides around for getting DVI-out to do 1080i? |
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| [09:05:00] | psm321: | hi |
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| [09:05:00] | psm321: | i just upgraded to current cvs, and the frontend is running at 1280x1024 for some reason (my screen is 800x600) |
| [09:07:00] | psm321: | Total desktop width=800, height=600, numscreens=2 |
| [09:07:00] | psm321: | 2005-04–21 04:06:25.022 Using screen 0, 1280x1024 at 0,0 |
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| [09:14:00] | psm321: | i can override it with --geometry, but i never had to do that before |
| [09:14:00] | psm321: | any ideas? |
| [09:14:00] | rikstah: | check the settings in setup |
| [09:15:00] | rikstah: | frontend setup, you can give it a size you want it to be |
| [09:16:00] | rikstah: | turn that off, if it's set for some reason |
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| [09:30:00] | psm321: | ok i'll check that |
| [09:31:00] | psm321: | its actually set to auto |
| [09:31:00] | psm321: | i guess i could manually set it to 800x600 |
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| [09:34:00] | Uberbot: | Is there a legend that describes what the icons mean in the recording selection screen? |
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| [09:45:00] | psm321: | Uberbot: yes |
| [09:46:00] | psm321: | Uberbot: you need to press something on that screen, i think try "1" |
| [09:46:00] | psm321: | Uberbot: yeah, 1 |
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| [09:50:00] | theturtle: | Does Mythtv do streaming? curious what are my options for streaming video on linux |
| [09:50:00] | psm321: | theturtle: what exactly do you want to do? |
| [09:52:00] | theturtle: | take video from sat receiver, capture, stream to internet, relay from destination to another machine on the internet that will stream to me |
| [09:53:00] | psm321: | hmm... i dont really think myth was designed for that kind of thing |
| [09:53:00] | psm321: | tho i'm sure you could configure something |
| [09:53:00] | psm321: | honestly i'm no expert, you should probably wait to ask someone who knows more |
| [09:54:00] | theturtle: | thats cool i'm just going out on a limb |
| [09:55:00] | theturtle: | i'm doing some googling but i thought maybe had some expertise here |
| [09:55:00] | fridge: | I'm fairly sure myth relies on NFS for "streaming" videos to myth frontends |
| [09:56:00] | fridge: | so you'd need to have a damn fast connection, and setup a VPN or something |
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| [11:07:00] | __law__: | hello |
| [11:08:00] | __law__: | i have installed mythtv yesterday, main menu works, but if i try to watch tv screen is black |
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| [12:03:00] | riksta: | yo topping |
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| [12:54:00] | mtjs: | hi : if I play a tv stream under mplayer it is much better then under mythtv |
| [12:54:00] | fridge: | how is it better? |
| [12:54:00] | fridge: | less stuttery? |
| [12:54:00] | fridge: | cleaner colours? |
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| [12:55:00] | fridge: | If I have excessive load on my machine, I find mythtv will stutter, while mplayer will be able to play smoothly |
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| [12:57:00] | mtjs: | less stuttery |
| [12:58:00] | mtjs: | fridge: if I look @ cnn witht he scroll bars for testing then mythtv shocks a lot more then mplayer |
| [12:58:00] | mtjs: | fridge: the machine has no load ... mythtv is the only tasks it has and I 'm using pvr 350 cards from hauppage |
| [12:59:00] | mtjs: | cpu load is 10% for mythtv playing one source |
| [13:00:00] | mtjs: | if I look at a real tuner and the mythtv then the letters are far more crispy and readeble with a real tv tuner... |
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| [13:05:00] | fridge: | I found turning on the 'extra audio buffering' option helps |
| [13:05:00] | fridge: | not sure of the exact name |
| [13:05:00] | fridge: | it is normally OK, except when I am doing a heap of other things at the same time. |
| [13:06:00] | mtjs: | fridge: that is on :) |
| [13:07:00] | fridge: | have you enabled everything you can in hdparam? |
| [13:07:00] | fridge: | like dma |
| [13:07:00] | fridge: | etc |
| [13:07:00] | fridge: | hdparm rather |
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| [13:11:00] | mtjs: | yes :) |
| [13:12:00] | mtjs: | it is not super bad, but it is anoying knowing that mplayer plays it smoother and more anoying that a real tuner plays it even better and more crisp |
| [13:15:00] | fridge: | I just bought a 61" TV |
| [13:16:00] | fridge: | I'm looking for some test patterns to help configuring the contrast etc |
| [13:16:00] | ikaro: | nice |
| [13:17:00] | ikaro: | plasmas are nice. |
| [13:17:00] | fridge: | I should hire a DVD from the video shop that has a test pattern thingy on it |
| [13:18:00] | mtjs: | fridge: if it has a tuner, make that you can swap between the real tv and the mythtv and set them on the same channel... that is how I check the quality |
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| [14:10:00] | laga: | fridge: someone called "cory pappenfuss" posted a SVCD with test images on the ML. check that. |
| [14:11:00] | laga: | not sure if that's what you want |
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| [14:36:00] | fridge: | laga: thanks, I'll check it out. |
| [14:37:00] | ProtocoLD: | morning folks... afternoon/evening to others! :) |
| [14:37:00] | laga: | morning ProtocoLD ;) |
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| [14:55:00] | ProtocoLD: | morning laga |
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| [16:20:00] | lashkar: | i'm getting a weird problem with my card, i get static when I try to use the tuner in mythtv now. doing ivtvctl -I yields the output shown at http://pastebin.ca/8517 |
| [16:20:00] | lashkar: | using a pvr350 with tuner type 47 and the tv out portion of the pvr350 as wlel |
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| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | ewww. |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | long term forecast here in Toronto is Seattle weather |
| [16:28:00] | Beirdo: | frigging rain, rain, scattered showers, rain rain |
| [16:28:00] | Ralph: | can someone be bothered to check out http://www.bitbenderforums.com/~ralpha6/output.txt and point me in the right direction |
| [16:28:00] | Ralph: | I'm trying to compile mythplugins-0.18 |
| [16:28:00] | Beirdo: | compile and install mythtv first |
| [16:29:00] | Riff-Raff: | mp4ff.h is missing |
| [16:29:00] | Ralph: | I did that |
| [16:29:00] | Riff-Raff: | you need to install faad-library |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | ahh, yes |
| [16:29:00] | Ralph: | thanks |
| [16:30:00] | ** Beirdo isn't quite awake yet ** | |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | either install the faad libraries, or disable aac support |
| [16:30:00] | Riff-Raff: | faadlib's development package to be certain |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | more specifically :) |
| [16:31:00] | Riff-Raff: | in debian that would be libfaad2-dev, available from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ |
| [16:32:00] | Beirdo: | and in Fedora: faad2-devel |
| [16:32:00] | Ralph: | happen to know where I can get a source tarball |
| [16:32:00] | Ralph: | I'm on LFS |
| [16:32:00] | laga: | damn masochists |
| [16:32:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [16:32:00] | Beirdo: | http://www.audiocoding.com/ |
| [16:32:00] | Beirdo: | that's what's listed in the RPM info |
| [16:33:00] | Beirdo: | chance whether that's right or not :) |
| [16:33:00] | Beirdo: | or alternatively... |
| [16:33:00] | Beirdo: | read the README |
| [16:33:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:34:00] | Beirdo: | something tells me that's why it was written |
| [16:35:00] | Ralph: | the readme for mythplugins |
| [16:35:00] | laga: | i really can recommend the gta: vice city soundtrack. |
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| [16:35:00] | Beirdo: | for mythmusic, silly :) |
| [16:36:00] | EmergeTW: | morning |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | that it is |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | cd mythtplugins/mythmusic |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | less README |
| [16:36:00] | Ralph: | never dawned on me to cd into mythmusic d'oh |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | hehe :) |
| [16:36:00] | EmergeTW: | I so wish that mythtv would stop giving me such a headache =\ |
| [16:36:00] | ** Beirdo hands EmergeTW a Tylenol ** | |
| [16:37:00] | ** EmergeTW politly declines the tylenol and requests some valium ** | |
| [16:39:00] | EmergeTW: | Beirdo: any chance you have a pvr350? |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | 3 * PVR250 |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | d |
| [16:39:00] | EmergeTW: | darn, I am trying to get the remote working |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | doh, wrong window |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | I don't use the remote |
| [16:40:00] | lashkar: | anyone know someone using a pvr350 that is being detected as tuner type 47 ? |
| [16:41:00] | EmergeTW: | lashkar: I have to set mine to 37 |
| [16:41:00] | EmergeTW: | err |
| [16:41:00] | EmergeTW: | 39 |
| [16:41:00] | Beirdo: | different cards have different tuners |
| [16:41:00] | EmergeTW: | I believe it was set in the config, to be 2, and I had to change it to 39 to get it to decode cable semi-properly |
| [16:41:00] | lashkar: | i seemed to have a new pvr350 and it is giving me problems |
| [16:42:00] | EmergeTW: | yeah, I just got mine two days ago |
| [16:42:00] | EmergeTW: | and it is giving me problems aswell |
| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | then it's likely type 39 |
| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | what does tveeprom say it is? |
| [16:42:00] | lashkar: | the tveeprom detects 47...and i was able to do some raw captures after that...but now ivtvctl -I, is thinking the video stream is bad |
| [16:43:00] | lashkar: | tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 48132, rev = K268, serial# = 7852932 |
| [16:43:00] | lashkar: | tveeprom: tuner = LG TAPE H001F MK3 (idx = 68, type = 47) |
| [16:43:00] | lashkar: | tveeprom: tuner fmt = NTSC(M) (eeprom = 0x08, v4l2 = 0x00001000) |
| [16:43:00] | lashkar: | tveeprom: audio_processor = MSP3440 (type = 11) |
| [16:43:00] | Beirdo: | go with what tveeprom detects (if you have a recent enough ivtv, etc) |
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| [16:44:00] | EmergeTW: | wow, does KNoppmyth not come with tveeprom? |
| [16:44:00] | lashkar: | i put that in /etc/modutils/ivtv |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | it's part of ivtv |
| [16:44:00] | lashkar: | still having issues though and i am trying to get ivtv-fb working as well...thinking most of my problems are due to the newer type :( |
| [16:44:00] | EmergeTW: | I should just be able to type 'tveeprom' in console right? |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo: | read Jarod's MythTV guide |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo: | it's a module |
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| [16:45:00] | Beirdo: | and after it's inserted, do dmesg and look in the output |
| [16:45:00] | lashkar: | dmesg | grep tveeprom |
| [16:46:00] | Mek: | ivtv problem? |
| [16:47:00] | EmergeTW: | Ok, thanks |
| [16:47:00] | EmergeTW: | Yeah mine is showing as a 47 too |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | then go with that :) |
| [16:48:00] | EmergeTW: | I have it set to 39, in one of the configs, dont remember where now though, could that be why all channels 62 and up aren't decoding properly? |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | if you are using the wrong tuner type, don't expect it to work well |
| [16:48:00] | Mek: | regarding ivtv....i found out that I have to load tveeprom before ivtv modules....how do I automate this? |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | you shouldn't have to |
| [16:49:00] | lashkar: | i had to edit a header file in my kernel, but after that sitting to 47 working until i tried using pvr350 tv-out ;) |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | ivtv should load it automatically |
| [16:49:00] | lashkar: | although it was black/white..heh |
| [16:50:00] | Beirdo: | if it doesn't, then put "add above ivtv tveeprom" in your modules.conf or modprobe.conf, whatever |
| [16:50:00] | Mek: | ah ok |
| [16:50:00] | Mek: | if I just load ivtv...no go it doesn't load tveeprom |
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| [16:53:00] | EmergeTW: | I set it to 47 and all channels are static |
| [16:54:00] | EmergeTW: | set it back to 39 and all channels up to 61 are perfect |
| [16:54:00] | EmergeTW: | and over 61 are there, but not decoding right |
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| [16:55:00] | lashkar: | in dmesg, is there an error that starts with |
| [16:55:00] | lashkar: | "tuner: ?" |
| [16:56:00] | lashkar: | i had to patch the debian 2.4 kernel to get the header file up to date with the type of 47 based on http://www.ivtv.tv/releases/ |
| [16:56:00] | lashkar: | not sure if knoppmyth needs it done or not |
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| [16:56:00] | lashkar: | if you get this message: "tuner: tuner type not set" |
| [16:57:00] | EmergeTW: | well, I have a 2.6 kernel |
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| [16:58:00] | lashkar: | fixing your problem, will probably fix mine too...hrmm |
| [16:59:00] | ikaro: | anyone can help me with the program guide? its empty. |
| [17:00:00] | EmergeTW: | lashkar: Right now I am trying to figure out what version of the ivtv module comes with knoppmyth r5v12 |
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| [17:08:00] | bjohnson: | Beirdo: livevoip changed there 800 service and mine no longer works from here |
| [17:08:00] | bjohnson: | uh .. their |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | bastards |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | mine works great... through thinktel.ca |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | and I'm about to start using voipjet just a touch more.. |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | their rate to Puerto Rico is about the same as US/Canada, unlike most paces |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | and I have a friend down there that I am talking to regularly |
| [17:11:00] | Ralph: | EmergeTW, I installed knoppmyth and installed the ivtv-0.3.2s drivers to get my pvr 500 working |
| [17:11:00] | Beirdo: | nufone has like 4.3c/min, voipjet (who suck!) 1.7c/min or something |
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| [17:11:00] | Beirdo: | and I have a balance there anyways :) |
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| [17:13:00] | EmergeTW: | well, I just went through the ivtv page and checked and knoppmyth has already patched to add support for the 47 tuner |
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| [17:22:00] | CyberKnet: | mmmmm double cheeseburger |
| [17:23:00] | ** laga is going to have cordon bleu for dinner ** | |
| [17:23:00] | CyberKnet: | sounds good |
| [17:23:00] | CyberKnet: | Is your mom a good cook? |
| [17:24:00] | laga: | umm, yep. |
| [17:24:00] | xris: | w00t. fax -> voip works. |
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| [17:25:00] | laga: | but you usually get them pan-ready in the butchery |
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| [17:26:00] | EmergeTW: | Oh yeah baby! |
| [17:26:00] | EmergeTW: | got all the channels working |
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| [17:38:00] | flithm: | hey everyone... I'm having some trouble with mythweather right now. It works fine on one front end but not the other. Anyone know what could cause this? (I just get a connection timeout error) no firewall or none of that |
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| [17:41:00] | xris: | hmm, jarod didn't come back. oh well. |
| [17:46:00] | Beirdo: | maybe he's busy |
| [17:47:00] | flithm: | hey either of you guys know why mythweather wouldn't work on one machine as opposed to another? |
| [17:48:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [17:49:00] | flithm: | hrm... one thing, the docs say you can run mythweather --debug from the command line, but I can't find this mythweather executable anywhere! |
| [17:53:00] | Beirdo: | did you make install? |
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| [17:55:00] | flithm: | Beirdo: yeah... same process on both frontends, one works the other doesn't. Maybe I selected an invalid city or something? |
| [17:55:00] | xris: | so.. anyone know about hdtv antennas? |
| [17:55:00] | Beirdo: | could be |
| [17:57:00] | flithm: | I never actually let it timeout more than once... maybe if I keep letting it try it'll eventually ask me to pick a new city or something |
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| [18:00:00] | D-side: | hi. |
| [18:00:00] | laga: | heya D-side |
| [18:01:00] | D-side: | sup |
| [18:01:00] | D-side: | laga: get .18 on there? |
| [18:01:00] | laga: | D-side: not yet. |
| [18:01:00] | flithm: | does anyone know where mythweather stores its settings? |
| [18:05:00] | stoffel: | in the db, as every mythtv plugin |
| [18:06:00] | ikaro: | so is everyone using mythtv w/out a program guide or ? |
| [18:06:00] | flithm: | stoffel: yeah? I can't find its settings. All I could find was two values relating to its "aggressiveness" |
| [18:06:00] | stoffel: | yeah |
| [18:08:00] | laga: | ikaro: i have a program guide. |
| [18:09:00] | ikaro: | you use the tv_graber* program ? |
| [18:09:00] | ikaro: | ife asked in the mailing list and asked in here on several ocasions, but no luck. |
| [18:09:00] | ikaro: | sux. |
| [18:12:00] | laga: | i use tv_grab_de_tvtoday |
| [18:18:00] | ikaro: | i cant say why the program menu is empty. there are no errors or anything. |
| [18:18:00] | laga: | you probably did something wrong. |
| [18:18:00] | ikaro: | i guess its a bug in the 0.17 |
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| [18:19:00] | ikaro: | how come i did something wrong ? |
| [18:19:00] | ikaro: | what do you mean with "something wrong" |
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| [18:19:00] | Mrgoose: | hello |
| [18:19:00] | kormoc: | mornin |
| [18:19:00] | Mrgoose: | pvr350 provides the closest thing to regular cable tv looking tv out right? |
| [18:20:00] | laga: | ikaro: well. re-read my answer carefully. |
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| [18:21:00] | Mrgoose: | ATI TV Wonder Elite |
| [18:21:00] | Mrgoose: | does that work with mythtv? |
| [18:21:00] | ikaro: | its not answer .. just a comment. |
| [18:22:00] | laga: | ikaro: whatever. |
| [18:23:00] | laga: | ikaro: you'd better spend your time fixing your EPG ;) |
| [18:23:00] | kormoc: | ikaro, the answer is there is something that you did wrong or that wasn't set up correctly because it does work for other people. |
| [18:24:00] | ikaro: | that helps alot. |
| [18:25:00] | laga: | ikaro: please read "how to ask smart questions". www.catb.org/~esr/ IIRC |
| [18:26:00] | kormoc: | ikaro, in all fairness, all you said was that it doesn't work and you don't know why, if you don't know why, how can anyone here know with even less info then what you have given? |
| [18:27:00] | ikaro: | ok, i got mythtv 0.17 and use tv_grab_dk |
| [18:28:00] | ikaro: | ive ran the setup and the program downloaded the program guides from the net. after that I ran mythfilldb |
| [18:28:00] | EmergeTW: | My mythtv box locks up when I am doing recording stuff, like hitting skip forward to get back to livetv |
| [18:28:00] | EmergeTW: | and stuff |
| [18:28:00] | EmergeTW: | any ideas? |
| [18:30:00] | ikaro: | emergetw, probably you did something wrong. |
| [18:30:00] | EmergeTW: | It doesnt do it all the time |
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| [18:30:00] | kormoc: | ikaro, you still havn't helped much, no configuration options, nothing about any output, nothing about whats in the logs, nothing about what's in the database |
| [18:31:00] | ikaro: | kormoc, I wrote that there are no errors in the logs. |
| [18:31:00] | kormoc: | EmergeTW, have you tried running the frontend in a term and seeing what it outputs? |
| [18:31:00] | kormoc: | ikaro, sure, but what is in the logs? |
| [18:31:00] | kormoc: | errors are useful, but that's not all that a log is |
| [18:32:00] | ikaro: | kormoc, im running bojth backend and frontend in a terminal. no errors. |
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| [18:32:00] | kormoc: | ikaro, I know, and if you read what was directed at you, I didn't ask you for more errors, but hey, whatever |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | OK, time for some Tea Party |
| [18:38:00] | EmergeTW: | Is there a command to see what version of mythtv is installed? |
| [18:38:00] | Beirdo: | I'd think mythfrontend --help should say, no? |
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| [18:40:00] | EmergeTW: | I am trying to do this from the console |
| [18:40:00] | EmergeTW: | and mythfrontend --help tells me no xserver is availible |
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| [18:47:00] | Ralph: | cd /usr/local/lib |
| [18:47:00] | Ralph: | ls -la libmythtv* |
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| [19:04:00] | xris: | hmm... I can make subversion use \n linebreaks in all files, regardless of the format people send me patches. |
| [19:04:00] | xris: | granted, diff freaks out when people send me \r\n, anyway. |
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| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | dos2unix is your friend |
| [19:09:00] | mchou: | so what's all this row over bitkeeper and tridgell? |
| [19:10:00] | xris: | yes |
| [19:10:00] | mchou: | FOSS people fighting all over themselves. |
| [19:10:00] | xris: | mchou: tridgell is reverse engineering BK. |
| [19:10:00] | xris: | BK's author is upset |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | well duh |
| [19:10:00] | xris: | Linus says that he has a right to be upset. |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | he does |
| [19:10:00] | mchou: | xris: heh, that's subject to "interpretation" |
| [19:10:00] | xris: | that's about it. |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | that doesn't mean that I agree with the BK wanker though |
| [19:11:00] | xris: | and Linus has written his own SCM now called Git. |
| [19:11:00] | mchou: | Bruce Perens tell linus to "cool it" |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | but tridgell did agree to the license then broke it |
| [19:11:00] | xris: | and that's an issue |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [19:11:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: not what I heard..... |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: go read the mailing lists, they are online |
| [19:12:00] | mchou: | Tridge never used BK, and didnt accept license, from what I read. |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | but there's always a lot of reading between the lines |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | whatever :) |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, BK is crap |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | stupid-ass commercial crap that only exists because of Linus |
| [19:13:00] | mchou: | no, McVoy is nazi, BK may (or may not) be crap. |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | it woulda died long ago without it |
| [19:13:00] | mchou: | I dunno about that..... |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | it's crap because of the licence |
| [19:13:00] | mchou: | mysql uses it too, no? |
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| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | he got a tremendous boost from the Linux kernel community, a huge amount of "goodwill" |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | then he tells them to fuck off |
| [19:14:00] | mchou: | well, now goodwill has gone sour. |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [19:15:00] | mchou: | and I read Perens and mcVoy grew up together :) |
| [19:15:00] | mchou: | knew each other since they were 7. |
| [19:15:00] | mchou: | cracked up at that one. |
| [19:16:00] | xris: | Beirdo: apparently he gave a license to the core kernel developers. |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | some of them |
| [19:16:00] | xris: | right. |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | just fuckin dumb |
| [19:17:00] | xris: | but too many people aren't "core" developers. |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | I want nothing to do with that morass of filth |
| [19:17:00] | mchou: | So this is the funny question. Linus can't write SCM because he used BK free license, right? |
| [19:19:00] | FITH: | I think that's about as enforcable as that crud in most contracts about not working for the compitition for 2 years after you quit... |
| [19:19:00] | FITH: | i.e. Not at all :) |
| [19:20:00] | mchou: | well, I'm sure linus doesnt want to go to court over this. Mcvoy might thou :) |
| [19:20:00] | xris: | linus has already written an scm, though |
| [19:20:00] | mchou: | you play with dynomite, bound to get a few fingers blown off :) |
| [19:21:00] | mchou: | xris: yeah, but can he continue to improve on it is the question :) |
| [19:22:00] | mchou: | FITH: I knew cases where where ppl jumped to the competition, original employer lost in court :) |
| [19:24:00] | mchou: | FITH: employee woked on the same exact stuff after jumping ship :) |
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| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: did you kick out the ethernet cable or something? ;) |
| [19:25:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [19:25:00] | kormoc: | alas, no |
| [19:25:00] | kormoc: | it's way over on the other side of the room |
| [19:25:00] | FITH: | hehe, yeah, as soon as your original contract ends (i.e. you quit) most courts won't enforce any clauses from that contract... otherwise they could add stuff in like, you'll pay into the pension plan for 20 years after you quit, etc :) |
| [19:26:00] | FITH: | something about not allowing indefinate servitude |
| [19:26:00] | mchou: | exactly :) |
| [19:26:00] | kormoc: | wait, that's illegal? |
| [19:26:00] | ** kormoc peers at his minion contract. ** | |
| [19:27:00] | mchou: | hehe. |
| [19:27:00] | FITH: | only if both sides don't agree :) |
| [19:27:00] | FITH: | you can be a slave if it's voluntary! |
| [19:27:00] | mchou: | kormoc: you got nothing to worry about. |
| [19:27:00] | kormoc: | okay then, that's grand. |
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| [19:32:00] | bronco1: | hello |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:34:00] | bronco1: | eh? |
| [19:35:00] | bronco1: | does anyone in here know how to force a bttv card to default to a specific /dev/video? location |
| [19:35:00] | bronco1: | I would like to force it to the /dev/video1 slot |
| [19:35:00] | bronco1: | on fedora fc3 that is |
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| [19:44:00] | mchou: | bronco1: you cant try "alias char-major-81–1 bttv" ? |
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| [19:56:00] | [Klatuu]: | why is is to difficult to get a PVR-500 to work |
| [19:56:00] | iggy: | because they are like 3 months old |
| [19:56:00] | bronco1: | hmm |
| [19:56:00] | bronco1: | mchou: yes i tried that |
| [19:56:00] | laga: | [Klatuu]: well, you're using unstable drivers with hardware that doesn't work too well yet (as you can see) |
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| [19:57:00] | bronco1: | I followed jarods guide, which makes an ivtv card load into /dev/video0, but when I modprobe the bttv to 81–1, it still tries to add to /dev/vide0 |
| [19:57:00] | [Klatuu]: | I wish I could just do a DV capture |
| [19:57:00] | [Klatuu]: | I have a pinnacle moviebox that works fine for capture for other purposes |
| [19:58:00] | [Klatuu]: | I don't even need a tuner |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | we look forward to your patches :) |
| [19:59:00] | [Klatuu]: | mmmhmmm |
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| [19:59:00] | [Klatuu]: | thing is with everything moving to digital..ie cable and satellite...the usefulness of tuner cards is declining |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, I got a meeting |
| [20:08:00] | xris: | [Klatuu]: except that many many people still can't afford digital stuff. |
| [20:08:00] | xris: | (granted, my Dish setup is now less $$ than basic analog cable) |
| [20:09:00] | ** laga can get basic digital tv for like 50 euro/year ** | |
| [20:09:00] | [Klatuu]: | the cable companies are pushing people to digital |
| [20:10:00] | laga: | and their programming is way better than the normal free stuff. and no ads. |
| [20:10:00] | kormoc: | or people just can't get digital stuff... |
| [20:10:00] | [Klatuu]: | they are moving more and more stuff to digital |
| [20:10:00] | [Klatuu]: | and yes there are areas that don't have digital anything |
| [20:11:00] | xris: | [Klatuu]: you'll have to excuse kormoc. he's bitter because comcast doesn't deliver scifi or foodtv digital to his apartment. but does to places a mile away. |
| [20:11:00] | xris: | but it's there on the analog signal. |
| [20:11:00] | kormoc: | yeah, just a tad bitter |
| [20:11:00] | [Klatuu]: | I have DirecTV |
| [20:11:00] | [Klatuu]: | for a long time I couldn't get broadband |
| [20:11:00] | ** laga will be able to get scifi soon, yay! ** | |
| [20:11:00] | [Klatuu]: | no comcast |
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| [20:11:00] | [Klatuu]: | and qwest didn't want to run DSL that far |
| [20:11:00] | [Klatuu]: | now both are here |
| [20:12:00] | [Klatuu]: | but I am using neither |
| [20:12:00] | xris: | kormoc's issue has nothing to do with broadband. it has everything to do with comcast deciding that his neighborhood just didn't get those channels. |
| [20:12:00] | xris: | point is, digital is still way more expensive. |
| [20:13:00] | xris: | people don't know about the satellite options, or don't want a dish on their house, or can't (apartment complex, etc). |
| [20:13:00] | [Klatuu]: | I live in an apartment |
| [20:13:00] | xris: | then you're lucky. |
| [20:14:00] | xris: | few apartments will let you mount a dish on them. |
| [20:14:00] | xris: | and unless you're lucky enough to have a south-facing apartment, and want to put a dish inside your house (or leave your door open to run a cable in), you're SOL |
| [20:14:00] | xris: | point is, MANY people still use analog cable. |
| [20:15:00] | xris: | or even plain old analog broadcast |
| [20:15:00] | [Klatuu]: | yes |
| [20:15:00] | [Klatuu]: | but that doesn't mean that some more effort should be made for supporting capture only devices |
| [20:16:00] | [Klatuu]: | <<---not a coder |
| [20:16:00] | xris: | it's cheaper for a manufacturer to make one card with both parts than it is to make 2 cards. |
| [20:17:00] | [Klatuu]: | there are generic capture devices like DV |
| [20:17:00] | [Klatuu]: | that don't need specialized drivers |
| [20:17:00] | xris: | that's firewire |
| [20:17:00] | [Klatuu]: | yes |
| [20:17:00] | xris: | and that works as-is with myth |
| [20:18:00] | [Klatuu]: | no |
| [20:18:00] | xris: | what do you mean, no? that was one of the cool things added in .18 |
| [20:18:00] | [Klatuu]: | oh |
| [20:18:00] | [Klatuu]: | hrmmm |
| [20:18:00] | [Klatuu]: | I thought it was still the stuff with HD cable boxes |
| [20:18:00] | xris: | you may be right, actually. |
| [20:18:00] | [Klatuu]: | and that isn't DV |
| [20:18:00] | xris: | but in that case, it's just a matter of supporting it. |
| [20:19:00] | xris: | yeah, that's mpeg stream |
| [20:19:00] | xris: | no coders have bothered. |
| [20:19:00] | [Klatuu]: | I think I have read on the mailing list that someone has played around with it and libiec |
| [20:19:00] | Mrgoose: | extracting and repairing pars across the network is really slow |
| [20:20:00] | xris: | Mrgoose: lol. |
| [20:20:00] | Mrgoose: | it is |
| [20:20:00] | Mrgoose: | i should get gigabit or something |
| [20:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | one of my DIrecTV receivers has a D-VHS port |
| [20:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | but it wont work with myth |
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| [20:32:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: what's a dvhs port look like? Should it just be firewire? |
| [20:32:00] | mchou: | shouldn't* |
| [20:32:00] | [Klatuu]: | it looks like a 6 pin firewire port |
| [20:32:00] | [Klatuu]: | looks is the keyword |
| [20:33:00] | mchou: | how do you know it NOT firewire though? :) |
| [20:33:00] | [Klatuu]: | well |
| [20:33:00] | [Klatuu]: | I plug it into a firewire port on my PC |
| [20:33:00] | [Klatuu]: | no node shows up |
| [20:34:00] | mchou: | doesn't mean it's not firewire :) |
| [20:34:00] | [Klatuu]: | I forget what error I get in the console from gscanbus |
| [20:34:00] | [Klatuu]: | I've read other places that it is a bastardization |
| [20:34:00] | [Klatuu]: | and only will work with certain D-VHS recorders |
| [20:34:00] | [Klatuu]: | that are not in production anymore |
| [20:35:00] | mchou: | dvhs is firewire with 5c, afaik. |
| [20:35:00] | mchou: | which means it wont ever talk to a PC. |
| [20:35:00] | [Klatuu]: | it's an older receiver |
| [20:35:00] | [Klatuu]: | when did 5c come out? |
| [20:36:00] | mchou: | dunt remember, some time ago. |
| [20:36:00] | mchou: | dont* |
| [20:36:00] | [Klatuu]: | it isn't HD D-VHS |
| [20:36:00] | mchou: | dvhs is dvhs :) |
| [20:37:00] | mchou: | who made the receiver? |
| [20:37:00] | [Klatuu]: | well |
| [20:37:00] | [Klatuu]: | it is mitsubishi |
| [20:37:00] | mchou: | and what model is it? |
| [20:37:00] | [Klatuu]: | which was made by Hughs |
| [20:38:00] | mchou: | Tht's definitely 5c. |
| [20:38:00] | [Klatuu]: | SR-SD1 |
| [20:38:00] | mchou: | that's* |
| [20:39:00] | [Klatuu]: | how do you know? |
| [20:39:00] | mchou: | hooking that up to PC is pointless |
| [20:40:00] | mchou: | |
| [20:40:00] | [Klatuu]: | I never saw anything about 5C when I googled it |
| [20:41:00] | mchou: | "copy protection" |
| [20:41:00] | [Klatuu]: | I see |
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| [20:43:00] | [Klatuu]: | oh well |
| [20:44:00] | [Klatuu]: | I either need to get this PVR-500 working or wait for DV support in MythTV |
| [20:44:00] | [Klatuu]: | luckily I have my DIrecTiVo |
| [20:44:00] | [Klatuu]: | heh |
| [20:44:00] | opello: | my pvr-500 is working great under ivtv 0.3.2o |
| [20:45:00] | mchou: | opello: where did you get your 500? |
| [20:45:00] | [Klatuu]: | what's your secret? |
| [20:45:00] | opello: | let me get the link |
| [20:45:00] | four8: | my 500 works great too |
| [20:46:00] | [Klatuu]: | what driver are you using? |
| [20:46:00] | opello: | i just read the module parameters off the mailing list after someone told me what to do |
| [20:46:00] | four8: | don't recall |
| [20:46:00] | mchou: | nice picture quality on tuner for 500? |
| [20:46:00] | four8: | yup |
| [20:46:00] | opello: | http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi? . . . ID=!ORDERID! |
| [20:46:00] | opello: | that's where i got mine |
| [20:46:00] | [Klatuu]: | are you using S-video or tuner? |
| [20:46:00] | four8: | tuners |
| [20:46:00] | opello: | tuner, decent picture |
| [20:46:00] | [Klatuu]: | hrmmm |
| [20:46:00] | [Klatuu]: | I need to use S-Video |
| [20:47:00] | mchou: | opello: out of stock :( |
| [20:47:00] | four8: | only one svid on the 500, need the extra header thing to get two |
| [20:47:00] | four8: | pcalchemy.com has 'em |
| [20:47:00] | [Klatuu]: | yeah |
| [20:47:00] | [Klatuu]: | I only need one tuner now |
| [20:47:00] | opello: | mchou: yeah :/ |
| [20:47:00] | mchou: | pcalchemy is pricy. |
| [20:48:00] | opello: | not that much more though |
| [20:48:00] | opello: | i paid after it was all said and done about $150 |
| [20:48:00] | [Klatuu]: | I got my PVR-500 locally |
| [20:48:00] | four8: | got mine free. :) |
| [20:48:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: where do you live? |
| [20:48:00] | four8: | shipped straight from Hauppauge. :) |
| [20:48:00] | opello: | nice four8 |
| [20:48:00] | mchou: | four8: nice :) |
| [20:48:00] | [Klatuu]: | seattle area |
| [20:48:00] | opello: | how'd you manage that? |
| [20:48:00] | four8: | four8 = Jarod Wilson. |
| [20:49:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: national store or mom and pop shop? |
| [20:49:00] | four8: | Axel works for Hauppauge, he had them send me one. (Along with a PVR-150MCE) |
| [20:49:00] | [Klatuu]: | OEM dealer |
| [20:49:00] | mchou: | four8: nice. |
| [20:49:00] | mchou: | who is axel? |
| [20:49:00] | mchou: | axel thimm? |
| [20:49:00] | four8: | yeah |
| [20:50:00] | mchou: | nice. |
| [20:50:00] | laga: | he works for hauppauge? very cool. |
| [20:50:00] | mchou: | wish I could get one free :) |
| [20:50:00] | mchou: | or minimal charge :) |
| [20:50:00] | four8: | works for them on a consulting basis on a number of Linux projects, yeah |
| [20:50:00] | laga: | first step: register www.wilsonet.com... ;) |
| [20:50:00] | four8: | :D |
| [20:51:00] | agd5f: | is there a good howto anywhere for setting up lcdproc with mythtv? I have LCDd working and I can echo stuff to my vfd, but myth doesn't seem to use it |
| [20:51:00] | four8: | I have it locked up for a few more years... |
| [20:51:00] | [Klatuu]: | what firmware version should I be using with the PVR-500? |
| [20:51:00] | mchou: | four8: locked up? |
| [20:51:00] | four8: | the domain wilsonet.com |
| [20:51:00] | mchou: | ahh.... |
| [20:52:00] | opello: | [Klatuu]: i used the recommended one, linked somewhere in the dir above the 0.3.2 drivers |
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| [20:53:00] | four8: | My 500 was last using 0.3.2h, just moved it to a different box (along with an HD-2000 and a PVR-350) and installed a newer driver last night. Haven't yet played with it to see how it works, but everything seems to load just fine. |
| [20:54:00] | mchou: | wtf???? WINTV-PVR-500 MCE – 2 TUNER PCI WHITE BOX W/ MCE 2005 DRIVERS ONLY – NTSC ~ (NO RETURNS – PHASED OUT – LIMITED TO STOCK ON HAND) |
| [20:54:00] | [Klatuu]: | ivtv: Encoder Firmware may be buggy, use version 0x02040011 |
| [20:54:00] | mchou: | hauppauge doing a new spin of 500?? |
| [20:55:00] | [Klatuu]: | and this is the version I am actually using Version 2.05.032 |
| [20:56:00] | [Klatuu]: | I had both audio and video working at one time |
| [20:56:00] | [Klatuu]: | scratchy audio |
| [20:56:00] | [Klatuu]: | but it worked |
| [20:56:00] | [Klatuu]: | now it doesn't |
| [20:57:00] | four8: | the buggy firmware message is bogus, needs to be removed from the driver |
| [20:57:00] | four8: | I get that too, but everything works perfectly. |
| [20:57:00] | mchou: | four8: is it really?? |
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| [21:00:00] | [Klatuu]: | grrr |
| [21:00:00] | [Klatuu]: | this is making me mad |
| [21:00:00] | four8: | yeah, message is bogus |
| [21:01:00] | four8: | wasn't at one point |
| [21:01:00] | four8: | But is long overdue to get yanked |
| [21:01:00] | marmoset: | mchou: either totally changing or dropping the 500 would make sense given that so few places stock it |
| [21:01:00] | mchou: | four8: so scaling doesn't work yet, right? |
| [21:02:00] | four8: | actually, I believe it does now |
| [21:02:00] | mchou: | hmm.... |
| [21:02:00] | four8: | it worked for a few revs, broke, but I think the latest ones have restored it |
| [21:02:00] | mchou: | marmoset: which version of 500 do you have? |
| [21:02:00] | marmoset: | mchou: it's arriving tomorrow :) |
| [21:02:00] | agd5f: | I've enabled use of the lcd in my myth settings, but no luck so far. any suggestions? |
| [21:02:00] | ** four8 has a D292 and a D492 being shipped to me ** | |
| [21:02:00] | [Klatuu]: | what are your module options for the PVR-500? |
| [21:03:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: which version of 500 do you have? |
| [21:03:00] | four8: | alias char-major-81 videodev |
| [21:03:00] | [Klatuu]: | MCE |
| [21:03:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: D292 or D492? |
| [21:04:00] | four8: | alias char-major-81–0 ivtv |
| [21:04:00] | four8: | alias char-major-81–1 ivtv |
| [21:04:00] | four8: | options cx25840 no_black_magic=1 |
| [21:04:00] | [Klatuu]: | how do I tell that |
| [21:04:00] | four8: | on the sticker on the tuner casing |
| [21:04:00] | mchou: | label on tuner. |
| [21:04:00] | [Klatuu]: | oh well |
| [21:04:00] | [Klatuu]: | that is in a box |
| [21:04:00] | mchou: | man take it out, it's important :) |
| [21:04:00] | four8: | Then look at the tveeprom output |
| [21:04:00] | four8: | no need to pull it |
| [21:04:00] | mchou: | even better :) |
| [21:05:00] | [Klatuu]: | D492 |
| [21:05:00] | [Klatuu]: | tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 23552, rev = D492, serial# = 7895023 |
| [21:05:00] | mchou: | that's the one most ppl seem to have trouble with..... |
| [21:05:00] | [Klatuu]: | grrr |
| [21:06:00] | four8: | I'll have one in hand in a few days. |
| [21:06:00] | mchou: | key work being seem |
| [21:06:00] | mchou: | word* |
| [21:06:00] | four8: | I should be able to figure out pretty quick if that seem is founded |
| [21:07:00] | mchou: | four8: no doubt. |
| [21:07:00] | four8: | Plan is to start by simply replacing my D292 |
| [21:07:00] | [Klatuu]: | does the rev matter as far as tuner vs. s-video? |
| [21:07:00] | four8: | shouldn't |
| [21:07:00] | four8: | they have the same tuner |
| [21:07:00] | four8: | and same encoder chip |
| [21:08:00] | four8: | I'm really not sure what the difference is between the two, but I'll be able to look at 'em side by side shortly |
| [21:08:00] | [Klatuu]: | the 492 is a later rev? |
| [21:08:00] | four8: | I think so. |
| [21:08:00] | four8: | Most new ones folks are getting are 492, I've had mine since last Nov or so |
| [21:09:00] | [Klatuu]: | do you have any options on the ivtv module? |
| [21:09:00] | four8: | nope |
| [21:10:00] | [Klatuu]: | wm8775 is unneeded? |
| [21:10:00] | four8: | I believe so. |
| [21:11:00] | [Klatuu]: | I was looking at some module options in the QuickSetup from the ivtv drivers |
| [21:11:00] | four8: | Not sure why CK thought he needed all that. |
| [21:11:00] | four8: | Everything works fine with auto-detection on both my 150 and 500 |
| [21:11:00] | [Klatuu]: | now I have mine set to the same options you have |
| [21:11:00] | [Klatuu]: | time to do a hard reset |
| [21:12:00] | [Klatuu]: | those drivers really should have something that resets the "memory" on the card |
| [21:12:00] | [Klatuu]: | so leaving it off for awhile isn't necessary |
| [21:13:00] | mchou: | agreed :) |
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| [21:14:00] | mchou: | shit, I'm really torn betw buying 2x150 or 500 :) |
| [21:14:00] | mchou: | 500 you need the breakout cable. |
| [21:14:00] | [Klatuu]: | it is only $14.95 |
| [21:14:00] | [Klatuu]: | and that is only if you are using svideo or composite |
| [21:14:00] | [Klatuu]: | the tuner has an internal splitter |
| [21:15:00] | mchou: | I can get 2x150 for $120 + tax :) |
| [21:15:00] | [Klatuu]: | so you don't need the breakout if you are only going to use the tuners |
| [21:15:00] | [Klatuu]: | if I get the breakout cable it is going to go in slot 1 |
| [21:15:00] | mchou: | 500=150+15(for breakput) |
| [21:15:00] | [Klatuu]: | take the place of the useless PCI port |
| [21:15:00] | mchou: | breakout* |
| [21:16:00] | mchou: | generally speaking, how many pci slots are on pci-express mobos? |
| [21:16:00] | [Klatuu]: | not many |
| [21:16:00] | [Klatuu]: | 2 maybe 3 |
| [21:16:00] | mchou: | 2, right? |
| [21:16:00] | four8: | On a micro ATX board, you could cover the useless AGP slot instead, if using onboard video... |
| [21:16:00] | [Klatuu]: | depends on how modern it is |
| [21:17:00] | four8: | My PCI-Express board (full ATX) has 3 PCI slots |
| [21:17:00] | [Klatuu]: | I have a full size MSI mobo |
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| [21:17:00] | four8: | Plus two PCI-E x1 |
| [21:17:00] | four8: | and one PCI-E x16 |
| [21:17:00] | four8: | or something like that |
| [21:18:00] | mchou: | that's just complicates life :) |
| [21:18:00] | [Klatuu]: | what complicates life? |
| [21:18:00] | mchou: | anyway, that's wont be a real consideration cause I'll just use P2s :) |
| [21:19:00] | mchou: | 2–3 pci slots => 500 mce :) |
| [21:19:00] | ** [Klatuu] hopes the Xbox 1 used price will drop soon ** | |
| [21:20:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: there isnt much diff in $ betw. used and new, is there? like $30 max is what I've seen. |
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| [21:20:00] | mchou: | not that I follow this kind of thing. |
| [21:20:00] | [Klatuu]: | $20 |
| [21:20:00] | [Klatuu]: | $149 new |
| [21:20:00] | phillip37: | hi everybody |
| [21:20:00] | [Klatuu]: | $129 used |
| [21:20:00] | phillip37: | i hope someone can awnser my question i am running knoppmyth r5a12 when i do a scan in mythtv and push the alt tab to get the little black window telling me whats its doing it says status no lock does anyone know what this means at all i am unable to get any channels ok |
| [21:20:00] | [Klatuu]: | I want one or two for mythtv frontends |
| [21:21:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: why not get new ones then? |
| [21:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | well |
| [21:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | let's see |
| [21:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | microsoft doesn't make more money on a used one |
| [21:21:00] | Uberbot: | So, if I use 1.4x timestretch, am I really watcing a show at 1.4 times normal speed? |
| [21:21:00] | mchou: | nah, wrong way to look at it. |
| [21:22:00] | mchou: | MS loses money for each xbox sold :) |
| [21:22:00] | laga: | Uberbot: yep. that's why you probably won't understand anything ;) |
| [21:22:00] | Uberbot: | Notata ll. It works quite well. |
| [21:22:00] | [Klatuu]: | the older rev ones supposedly are easier to hack linux on |
| [21:22:00] | Dibblah: | phillip37: What country are you in? |
| [21:22:00] | phillip37: | australia |
| [21:22:00] | phillip37: | brisbane queensland |
| [21:22:00] | [Klatuu]: | a used one wont count towards the number of xboxes sold |
| [21:23:00] | [Klatuu]: | since it has already been sold |
| [21:23:00] | Dibblah: | Have you specified a "source" multiplex? |
| [21:23:00] | [Klatuu]: | it wont add to it |
| [21:23:00] | [Klatuu]: | unless you follow microsoft product activation thinking |
| [21:23:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: lol, you're perverse. |
| [21:23:00] | phillip37: | im not sure what you mean dibblah i am only new to this ok |
| [21:24:00] | [Klatuu]: | I'm suprised msft isn't forcing people who buy used ones to buy a new license |
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| [21:24:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: just get new ones and get it over with. No used grubby gamepads. |
| [21:24:00] | mchou: | :) |
| [21:24:00] | Dibblah: | phillip37: OK. The scan button doesn't do a complete scan of all channels available. |
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| [21:25:00] | Dibblah: | phillip37: You need to enter the right details for one of your multiplexes used in your region. |
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| [21:25:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: why, no new license. prior owner relinquishes it (right of first sale) |
| [21:26:00] | [Klatuu]: | I wont be using the game pad |
| [21:26:00] | [Klatuu]: | no use |
| [21:26:00] | phillip37: | so dibblah where would i need to enter this information and where would i get this from |
| [21:26:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: nice as a remote control |
| [21:26:00] | [Klatuu]: | I will make the perm hack so it will run linux without a game |
| [21:26:00] | [Klatuu]: | I'm kinda interested in the new MCE remote for the Xbox |
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| [21:28:00] | Dibblah: | phillip37: This may be quite difficult, but only needs done once :) I'd suggest getting the settings from another person in Australia... Any takers? |
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| [21:29:00] | phillip37: | dibblah i have a file a friend sent me with a whole lot of numbers but im not sure where to put them ok |
| [21:29:00] | Dibblah: | Hmmm... Or does anyone know if "full scan" does what it sounds like? |
| [21:30:00] | Dibblah: | Right. As long as you have the numbers, we can do this the easy way :) |
| [21:30:00] | phillip37: | my only problem is i only have 1 monitor |
| [21:30:00] | xris: | damn. 19" lcd for $260. |
| [21:31:00] | xris: | must resist. |
| [21:31:00] | xris: | so, anyone know about hdtv antennas? |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | must... resist... urge... |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | xris: do you have a UHF/VHF antenna around? |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | like the loop of wire + bunny ears? |
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| [21:32:00] | alunt: | Can anyone help? I almost have it working. I can get the channel info but no picture-just snow (pvr 350) |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | if you do, that's a good place to start |
| [21:33:00] | xris: | Beirdo: nope |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | Hmm |
| [21:34:00] | xris: | I want a good omni, but everyone only seems to suggest the silver sensor (directional) |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | Well, buying one of those is cheap, but if it isn't sufficient, it's money wasted |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | good luck with an omni :) |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | you kinda need to match the antenna to where the towers are |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | the loop of wire really is an omni |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | if it works, you're done |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | silver sensor's good if all the sources are in one direction from you |
| [21:35:00] | xris: | actually, I do have a little loop antenna that I used to use fot tv. |
| [21:35:00] | xris: | which they're not. |
| [21:35:00] | xris: | http://tinyurl.com/as2cc |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, all over |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | the UHF loop of wire is a good start |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | if you can receive well with that, you are off to the races |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | for me, that's all I use, it's a crappy UHF/VHF antenna from Rat Shack... $20 |
| [21:37:00] | [Klatuu]: | ok |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | and I get everything Buffalo has to offer... From Toronto |
| [21:37:00] | [Klatuu]: | I am getting sound but no video on my PVR-500 now |
| [21:37:00] | xris: | interesting. colors change if I uncheck the "nearby airport" box. |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:37:00] | xris: | stupid nearby airport |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:39:00] | Dibblah: | alunt: What does your dmesg look like after loading the ivtv drivers? |
| [21:39:00] | Dibblah: | And which version of the drivers are you using? |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | (hint... pastebin.ca) |
| [21:40:00] | Dibblah: | ;) |
| [21:40:00] | alunt: | Dibblah, I havent checked.I will look now |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | if you paste the whole thing in here... |
| [21:40:00] | ** Beirdo prepares the trout ** | |
| [21:40:00] | Dibblah: | Why bother... We can just read it in the log after he's been kicked for flooding :) |
| [21:41:00] | Dibblah: | Will that be trout with lemon sauce? |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | no, it will be trout upside the head |
| [21:42:00] | alunt: | Beirdo, You sure its okay to paste the whole ivtv bit? its quite long |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | put it on pastebin.ca |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | then paste the resulting URL here |
| [21:43:00] | alunt: | Beirdo, How do i do that? |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | open a web browser |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | go to pastebin.ca |
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| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | paste in your stuff, submit |
| [21:45:00] | Dibblah: | That was... Remarkably restrained, Beirdo. Well done. |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:47:00] | four8: | xris: it looks like nearly all the HD stations would come in fine w/a directional pointed somewhere between Queen Anne and the Sound... |
| [21:47:00] | bronco1: | anyone in here using fedora fc3? |
| [21:47:00] | four8: | Never heard of it... |
| [21:48:00] | Maulkin: | Lo all. I've got a problem with setting up MythTV (0.17) with a DVB-S card (Hauppage Nova). I can read the stream manually, and tune the card manually (using dbstream | mplalyer), but myth fails to display anything when selecting "Watch TV" |
| [21:48:00] | Maulkin: | I do get the following in the log (with the backend started with -v all): |
| [21:48:00] | Maulkin: | 2005-04–21 21:42:46.083 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel s etup. |
| [21:49:00] | Maulkin: | 2005-04–21 21:42:47.084 DVB#0 WARNING – No data from card in 1 second. |
| [21:49:00] | Maulkin: | (and a few of them, then...) |
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| [21:50:00] | Dibblah: | Maulkin: How did you set up your channels? |
| [21:50:00] | four8: | FYI to all: I'll have my subversion mirror of the mythtv cvs repo updated nightly. |
| [21:50:00] | Dibblah: | Woo hoo. ;) |
| [21:50:00] | Maulkin: | Dibblah: Using the auto scan tool. |
| [21:50:00] | four8: | Chutt and Snow-Man agreed to slap rsync on the cvs server for me |
| [21:51:00] | Dibblah: | Maulkin: Is this an upgrade, or has the database been used before 0.17? |
| [21:51:00] | xris: | four8: hiding your name today? |
| [21:51:00] | Maulkin: | 05-04–21 21:51:01.999 Couldn't read data from the capture card in 15 seconds. Stopping. |
| [21:51:00] | four8: | Got some message about it already being in use |
| [21:51:00] | Maulkin: | Dibblah: Nope, brand new install from scratch. |
| [21:51:00] | xris: | but yeah. Beirdo is suggesting two directionals. |
| [21:52:00] | xris: | maybe I'll pick up a silver sensor and see how it is. and then if it's not good enough, get a second. |
| [21:52:00] | Maulkin: | channel_pids is empty, but IIRC, it's obsolete now. |
| [21:52:00] | xris: | can't do anything until I hook up with you to get the card, anyway. |
| [21:52:00] | four8: | true, true |
| [21:52:00] | Dibblah: | Maulkin: Can you post your mythbackend -v all log to pastebin.ca? |
| [21:52:00] | Beirdo: | four8: did you register it? |
| [21:52:00] | four8: | I yanked it from the box it was in last night, so its sitting on my desk now. |
| [21:52:00] | [Klatuu]: | should a PVR-500 show up as a PVR-500 or 2 PVR-150s in the ivtv init stuff? |
| [21:53:00] | Maulkin: | Dibblah: Okies... |
| [21:53:00] | alunt: | Beirdo, Ive uploaded my dmesg here: http://alunt.homelinux.org/files/dmesg |
| [21:53:00] | four8: | Beirdo: nope, didn't get around to it... |
| [21:53:00] | Dibblah: | Klatuu: A 500. |
| [21:53:00] | Dibblah: | ... I think. |
| [21:53:00] | [Klatuu]: | hrmmm |
| [21:53:00] | [Klatuu]: | mine is showing up as 2 150s |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | four8: yeah, someone swiped it... unless it's you :) |
| [21:54:00] | xris: | four8: jarodwilson is still logged in, seemingly from the same IP as yesterday. maybe you left something logged in at home? |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | goaway@c-24-17-119-135.hsd1.wa.comcast.net |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | if you register the nick then you can get nickserv to boot your other self so you can log in :) |
| [21:55:00] | xris: | four8: so they're letting you rsync... maybe if you can get svk running, people can choose whichever system they want to use. |
| [21:55:00] | four8: | ah yes, I probably did leave my box at home logged in |
| [21:56:00] | four8: | xris: Chutt's okay w/read-only, but would prefer nothing beyond that (at least for now) |
| [21:56:00] | xris: | four8: of course. that's why we need to convince him otherwise. |
| [21:56:00] | four8: | :) |
| [21:56:00] | xris: | but svk would automate your process of importing from cvs, I think. |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | an ambitious man :) |
| [21:58:00] | xris: | who? me or him? |
| [21:58:00] | xris: | (we both are, I think) |
| [21:59:00] | Beirdo: | yah |
| [21:59:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:59:00] | Beirdo: | I like it though |
| [21:59:00] | Beirdo: | long live SVN |
| [22:00:00] | ** Beirdo cues some Tourniquet ** | |
| [22:00:00] | ** Beirdo then tweaks the eq again ** | |
| [22:00:00] | four8: | I'll see what I can figure out w/svk this weekend... |
| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | thou shalt not clip bass! |
| [22:01:00] | four8: | right now, some PE1750s are calling my name... |
| [22:01:00] | Maulkin: | Dibblah: http://pastebin.ca/10039 (sorry for the delay) |
| [22:02:00] | Dibblah: | 2005-04–21 21:59:45.624 DVB#0 ERROR – Failed to get channel options for channel 3. |
| [22:02:00] | Dibblah: | Doh :) |
| [22:02:00] | Dibblah: | You'll be wanting to set your start channel in mythtv-setup, then. |
| [22:02:00] | Dibblah: | It's a setting on each card. |
| [22:03:00] | Maulkin: | Dibblah: Tried that :) I've set it to various ones, but still don't get a thing. |
| [22:03:00] | mchou: | well, I just went and got the 150 from circuit city. |
| [22:03:00] | Maulkin: | Also possibly worth noting that it produces the same errors when a recording is cheduled. |
| [22:03:00] | mchou: | see how well it works tonight. |
| [22:03:00] | Dibblah: | And you set it to a channel number that exists? (The number in brackets from the channel editor in mythtv-setup) |
| [22:04:00] | Dibblah: | mchou: Didn't we have this discussion already? |
| [22:04:00] | Maulkin: | Dibblah: Yup |
| [22:04:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: what discussion is that? |
| [22:04:00] | Dibblah: | mchou: And it ended with you returning the card? Or was that someone else |
| [22:04:00] | mchou: | wasn't me. |
| [22:04:00] | Dibblah: | Okay. You're in for some fun, then :) |
| [22:05:00] | mchou: | no I'm not. 2.4 kernel too :) |
| [22:05:00] | mchou: | real fun :) |
| [22:05:00] | mchou: | dont plan on using it on 2.6. |
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| [22:05:00] | Dibblah: | You'll have http://www.ivtv.tv/ already? 0.3.3f is current. |
| [22:06:00] | mchou: | 3.3 wont work on 2.4 |
| [22:06:00] | Dibblah: | Maulkin: Well, set your start channel correctly and repost the log. |
| [22:06:00] | Dibblah: | You're screwed, then. |
| [22:06:00] | Maulkin: | Dibblah: I don't think it's a default channel problem, as it seems to do exactly the same for recordings, which the channel number is passed directly (I assume). |
| [22:06:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: I dont think so. |
| [22:06:00] | Dibblah: | Maulkin: Yes, but it's easier to diagnose there. |
| [22:06:00] | Maulkin: | Dibblah: Channel 3 is a valid channel. IT's ITV1 (Just checked it on mythtv-setup) |
| [22:07:00] | Dibblah: | mchou: The 150 is not supported at all, really, in 0.2. |
| [22:07:00] | Maulkin: | Annoyingly :) |
| [22:07:00] | Dibblah: | You in the UK? |
| [22:07:00] | Maulkin: | Yup |
| [22:07:00] | ** [Klatuu] growls at ivtv ** | |
| [22:07:00] | Dibblah: | Damn. I need a threaded IRC client :) |
| [22:07:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: that remains to be seen :) |
| [22:07:00] | Dibblah: | Not... really. |
| [22:07:00] | ** Maulkin considers patching irssi with mutt's threading :) ** | |
| [22:07:00] | Dibblah: | mchou: _Unstable Releases_ you need the Unstable for pvr150/500 cards |
| [22:08:00] | Dibblah: | From ck's site. |
| [22:08:00] | ** [Klatuu] has a long mytytv todo list on his box ** | |
| [22:08:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: someone told me it's been backported..... |
| [22:08:00] | EmergeTW: | Has anyone else had a problem where you start recording a show, go to watch recordings and selected, so I can watch the show while it is recording, after watching for a minute or two the system completely freezes |
| [22:08:00] | EmergeTW: | ? |
| [22:08:00] | Dibblah: | mchou: Good luck, but it hasn't ;) |
| [22:09:00] | mchou: | I can use 2.6 if I have to, it's just I'd rather not. |
| [22:09:00] | mchou: | 2.6 has busted USB |
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| [22:09:00] | Dibblah: | (base detection works, but there's *heavy* changes on the picture quality and encoder settings going on in .3.x |
| [22:09:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: picture quality as in scaling? |
| [22:09:00] | Dibblah: | ie if you need anything other than tuner at anything greater then 320x240, go 0.3.3+ |
| [22:10:00] | Dibblah: | Scaling is still busted, even on current. |
| [22:10:00] | mchou: | not according to jarod. |
| [22:10:00] | Dibblah: | I'd better qualify my previous statement. |
| [22:10:00] | mchou: | you guys need to get your story straight :) |
| [22:10:00] | Dibblah: | Horizontal scaling works, but it's a hack. |
| [22:11:00] | Dibblah: | Direct 1->1 scaling works, but it has equivalent picture quality to a single-field capture (ie a 'drop' deinterlace). |
| [22:11:00] | [Klatuu]: | damn red and black static |
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| [22:12:00] | mchou: | wow, damn, what the heck happed to Chris Kennedy? |
| [22:12:00] | Dibblah: | SVideo has only recently been sorted on 0.3.3 and I'm not sure that's been backported yet. |
| [22:12:00] | mchou: | happened* |
| [22:12:00] | mchou: | just read he got divorced on that page. |
| [22:12:00] | Dibblah: | He's found speed, or some other efficiency enhancing drugs, by the look of it. |
| [22:12:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [22:12:00] | Dibblah: | Oh. That would also explain the amount of time going into the driver recently. |
| [22:13:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: nah Causalist. Maybe his wife left b/c of ivtv :) |
| [22:13:00] | mchou: | causality* |
| [22:13:00] | [Klatuu]: | hrmmm |
| [22:14:00] | [Klatuu]: | continue werking on getting ivtv to work or play splinter cell |
| [22:14:00] | Dibblah: | I _think_ the 2.4 incompatibility may have been fixed recently... |
| [22:14:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: in 3.3? |
| [22:15:00] | mchou: | or in 2.x? |
| [22:15:00] | Dibblah: | 3.3 |
| [22:15:00] | mchou: | so you're saying I ought to try 3.3 first :) |
| [22:16:00] | mchou: | I was going to try 2.x first :) |
| [22:16:00] | mchou: | bet 3.3 wont even compile on 2.4 |
| [22:16:00] | [Klatuu]: | I need an extremely long pole to press the power button on my myth box for all these power cycles |
| [22:16:00] | Dibblah: | Try both. Then weep and return the card when you can't get it to work. |
| [22:17:00] | ** Maulkin praises Dibblah ** | |
| [22:17:00] | Maulkin: | And feels retarded |
| [22:17:00] | mchou: | plenty ppl had sucess already with 150. |
| [22:17:00] | Dibblah: | Klatuu: Wake On Lan and the watchdog timer. |
| [22:17:00] | Maulkin: | YEah, it was a default channelissu. |
| [22:17:00] | mchou: | There is no need to return. |
| [22:17:00] | Dibblah: | Maulkin: Strange symptoms, however. |
| [22:17:00] | Maulkin: | I'm really not sure *why* that channel number didn't work though |
| [22:18:00] | [Klatuu]: | hrmmm |
| [22:18:00] | mchou: | even if it doesnt work |
| [22:18:00] | Dibblah: | Klatuu: Low signal error, with me. ITV2 is on the highest frequency multiplex. |
| [22:19:00] | Dibblah: | Had to upgrade my antenna twice before it worked reliably enough for Corrie. |
| [22:19:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: so you think I ought to try 3.3f?? |
| [22:19:00] | [Klatuu]: | I just want to use s-video |
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| [22:19:00] | Dibblah: | Klatuu: I'm using 3.3a with SVideo successfully. |
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| [22:20:00] | [Klatuu]: | on a D492 PVR-500? |
| [22:20:00] | Dibblah: | mchou: I would.. What can go wrong? ;) |
| [22:20:00] | Dibblah: | No. 2x150s. |
| [22:20:00] | Dibblah: | Sorry :( |
| [22:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | getting my hopes up like that.... |
| [22:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | you should be ashamed |
| [22:21:00] | Ralph: | [Klatuu], a pvr 500 does in fact show up as 2 150's in dmesg |
| [22:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | ok |
| [22:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | just making sure |
| [22:21:00] | Dibblah: | The 500 is near as damn it identical to 2x150s... |
| [22:22:00] | Ralph: | it is 2 150's just on one pci card :) |
| [22:22:00] | [Klatuu]: | I was reading on the ivtv ML someone was saying it shouldn't show up as a 150 |
| [22:22:00] | Beirdo: | well, two of em |
| [22:22:00] | Beirdo: | I would think |
| [22:22:00] | Ralph: | I have a pvr 500 and it does show up as 2 pvr 150's |
| [22:22:00] | Ralph: | it's supposed to |
| [22:23:00] | [Klatuu]: | are there different revisions of the 150 like the diff revisions of the 500? |
| [22:23:00] | Dibblah: | Beirdo: Was it you that gave up on the 150, or were you the one saying I was mad for buying one? |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | neither |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:23:00] | Dibblah: | Hmmm... Maybe I dreamt it. |
| [22:23:00] | Ralph: | how much a 150 go for anyway |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | D-side gave up on his |
| [22:24:00] | mchou: | Ralph: $60 after rebates at circuit city for retail version this wk. |
| [22:24:00] | Ralph: | I paid $140 after shipping for the pvr 500 no rebates |
| [22:25:00] | mchou: | Ralph: where did you get yours, amazon? |
| [22:25:00] | Ralph: | mwave.com |
| [22:25:00] | Dibblah: | Thanks, Beirdo, I was beginning to think I was going mad. Oh. Too late. |
| [22:25:00] | mchou: | Ralph: mwave would have cost me over $150 all told (taxes and shipping) |
| [22:26:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: tveeprom.c:499: error: parse error before "this_object_must_be_defined_as_export_objs_in_the_Makefile" |
| [22:26:00] | Ralph: | for the 500? |
| [22:26:00] | mchou: | hmm??? |
| [22:26:00] | mchou: | Ralph: yeah. |
| [22:26:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:26:00] | mchou: | CA taxes. |
| [22:27:00] | mchou: | Ralph: you going to get the cable bracket thingy for $500? |
| [22:27:00] | mchou: | pvr500* |
| [22:28:00] | [Klatuu]: | a $500 cable bracket? |
| [22:28:00] | [Klatuu]: | it better be made of platinum |
| [22:28:00] | Ralph: | cable bracket thingy? |
| [22:28:00] | mchou: | no, pvr500 |
| [22:28:00] | Ralph: | I think mwave had the 500 on sale when I bought it |
| [22:28:00] | Ralph: | 136 before shipping IIRC |
| [22:28:00] | [Klatuu]: | the dongle to give you the other svideo/composite inputs |
| [22:28:00] | mchou: | Ralph: same price still. |
| [22:28:00] | [Klatuu]: | for the pvr-500 |
| [22:29:00] | Maulkin: | Another possible issue (bug?). If the default channel is set to something that doesn't exist, you get an update command to the backend database setting the new default channel to an empty string. Is it worth submitting a bug with a patch? |
| [22:29:00] | Maulkin: | Or is this a 'feature'? :) |
| [22:30:00] | [Klatuu]: | grrr |
| [22:30:00] | [Klatuu]: | still black and red static |
| [22:30:00] | [Klatuu]: | sound though |
| [22:30:00] | [Klatuu]: | what is wrong |
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| [22:32:00] | Ralph: | I don't have a need for any extra cable's for the pvr 500 at the moment |
| [22:32:00] | Ralph: | I'm just watching tv on my computer at this time |
| [22:33:00] | Ralph: | I've only installed knoppmyth as a way to get familiar with mythtv |
| [22:33:00] | Ralph: | I'm trying to compile .18 now on a LFS system |
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| [22:34:00] | Ralph: | brb need to try a new kernel |
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| [22:36:00] | Dibblah: | mchou: Try add -DEXPORT_SYMTAB to CFLAGS in Makefile. |
| [22:37:00] | Dibblah: | mchou: Or edit the makefile to add tveeprom.o on the export-objs = line |
| [22:38:00] | mchou: | gimme a sec. |
| [22:38:00] | Dibblah: | And then submit a patch to the ML when it's working ;) |
| [22:38:00] | mchou: | looks like -DEXPORT_SYMTAB is jumping over the hurdle atm. |
| [22:38:00] | Dibblah: | Maulkin: Submit a patch, if you have one. |
| [22:39:00] | mchou: | still not finished though. |
| [22:39:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: well, it compiled sucessfully :) |
| [22:39:00] | mchou: | doesnt mean it will work though :) |
| [22:39:00] | Dibblah: | You will come across the tuners not being defined – You'll have to backport those as well. |
| [22:39:00] | mchou: | get to try tonight...... |
| [22:39:00] | Dibblah: | :) |
| [22:40:00] | mchou: | wierd, 2.x won't even compile |
| [22:40:00] | mchou: | ivtv-kthreads.c: In function `ivtv_dec_thread': ~ ivtv-kthreads.c:1143: error: structure has no member named `sigmask_lock' ~ |
| [22:41:00] | Maulkin: | Dibblah: I'll make one :) |
| [22:41:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: backport?? That was 3.3f. you're saying I need new tuners.h? |
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| [22:44:00] | Dibblah: | Yup. ivtv doesn't provide the tuners, afaik. |
| [22:44:00] | Dibblah: | That all comes from the kernel. |
| [22:44:00] | four8: | false |
| [22:44:00] | Dibblah: | Okay... |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | from v4l drivers, no? |
| [22:44:00] | Dibblah: | Hence the AFAIK ;) |
| [22:44:00] | four8: | unless someone yanked the tuner bits from ivtv |
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| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | or did that change at some point when I wasn't looking |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | I don't update mine often, so I really don't remember |
| [22:45:00] | four8: | the 0.3 ivtv branch includes tuner modules and tveeprom modules also |
| [22:45:00] | mchou: | ivtv-kthreads.c:1143: error: structure has no member named `sigmask_lock'...Do I need undef INIT_SIGHAND? |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | and when I do, I use the atrpms build :) |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | I don't do 0.3 |
| [22:45:00] | four8: | because it was much easier/quicker to get the needed tuner and tveeprom support for the 150 and 500 that way |
| [22:46:00] | Beirdo: | makes sense |
| [22:46:00] | iggy: | ivtv's tuner module is shit |
| [22:46:00] | four8: | though I submitted everything upstream to gerd also |
| [22:46:00] | Dibblah: | Nah. It's da bomb. |
| [22:46:00] | iggy: | all the tuner's are in the kernel now |
| [22:46:00] | mchou: | huh?? conflicting stories. |
| [22:46:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:46:00] | four8: | Yes, because I submitted them upstream. |
| [22:46:00] | iggy: | whereas ivtv's tuner module doesn't support my tuner |
| [22:46:00] | Beirdo: | listen to four8, he knows what he's talking about |
| [22:47:00] | Dibblah: | Indeed. |
| [22:47:00] | mchou: | tuner.* is in my ivtv source tree..... |
| [22:47:00] | Dibblah: | Even though he's wearing a mask ;) |
| [22:47:00] | four8: | All tuners from 0.3.x ivtv should be in 2.6.12 |
| [22:47:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:47:00] | four8: | I think the LG TAPE S00D1 might be missing tho |
| [22:47:00] | ** Beirdo pets 2.4.22 ** | |
| [22:47:00] | Dibblah: | You could just use an _, then we'd easily know who you are. |
| [22:47:00] | iggy: | I'm not saying anything bad about anything other than ivtv's tuner modules |
| [22:47:00] | four8: | nah |
| [22:48:00] | Dibblah: | :) |
| [22:48:00] | Beirdo: | Dibblah: if you are too lame to use /whois, tough :) |
| [22:48:00] | Dibblah: | iggy: I'd stop there. |
| [22:48:00] | mchou: | lol. iggy has some real issues :) |
| [22:48:00] | iggy: | Dibblah: noted |
| [22:48:00] | four8: | what tuner is missing from the ivtv driver? |
| [22:49:00] | iggy: | I'll check when I get home, no internet there now |
| [22:49:00] | four8: | Its been a while, but a month or two ago, I did as much as I could to get the two tuner modules in sync. |
| [22:50:00] | four8: | iggy: what card is it w/the non-functional tuner when using the ivtv tuner mod? |
| [22:51:00] | iggy: | ntsc pvr150 mce |
| [22:51:00] | four8: | oooookaaaayyy.... |
| [22:51:00] | iggy: | I don't know anything more than that off the top of my head, and I can't access the box right now |
| [22:52:00] | four8: | All the tuner defs in the kernel tuner for the 150 were in the ivtv tuner first, then submitted upstream. |
| [22:52:00] | four8: | k |
| [22:52:00] | mchou: | god, cluelessness. |
| [22:52:00] | iggy: | mine wasn't, it was mysteriously marked as no tuner |
| [22:52:00] | four8: | how long ago was this? |
| [22:53:00] | four8: | that simply sounds like you were loading a tveeprom version that didn't know your tuner yet |
| [22:53:00] | mchou: | yup. most likely. |
| [22:53:00] | iggy: | nope, the tveeprom detected it fine, the tuner module was missing the info for that tuner |
| [22:54:00] | iggy: | I'll let you guys go on thinking I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground... I've got work to be doing |
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| [22:54:00] | four8: | sounds like a mixing and matching of components |
| [22:54:00] | four8: | iggy: I'm the guy that wrote much of the tveeprom and tuner code for the 150 and 500. |
| [22:54:00] | mchou: | that guy iggy sure has a chip on his shoulder |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | you're one to talk, mchou :) |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:55:00] | iggy: | I know who you are, I follow ivtv-devel fairly closely |
| [22:55:00] | iggy: | I'm just telling you what I know |
| [22:56:00] | ** iggy slaps mchou with his chip ** | |
| [22:56:00] | mchou: | mchou slaps iggy with his tuner. |
| [22:56:00] | Dibblah: | So... Post a dmesg to the mailing list? |
| [22:57:00] | four8: | if the two (tvee and tuner) are paired from ivtv, I dunno how in the hell they could be out of whack like that, because every tveeprom idx value I've seen lines up perfectly with a tuner. |
| [22:57:00] | iggy: | Dibblah: sure, I'll just write it all out on paper, bring it to the office, and type it all back in |
| [22:58:00] | iggy: | four8: I'm really not at all concerned about it, the v4l snapshot that I'm using supports it just fine, so I went on about my business |
| [22:58:00] | four8: | Only thing that could go haywire would be if there's another 150 w/a different idx val or if you were doing something to compile against the in-kernel tuner.h and it didn't match up with the index values in the ivtv tuner.h |
| [22:58:00] | four8: | or something |
| [22:59:00] | mchou: | wow, the 150MCE has radio, and the retail version does not. |
| [22:59:00] | four8: | I'd rather people not just work around things, because it really should be trivial to fix. |
| [22:59:00] | mchou: | that's pretty messed up. |
| [22:59:00] | iggy: | I didn't do anything weird, just the normal make ; make install that I've been doing for my pvr350 for a year now |
| [22:59:00] | Dibblah: | Course it is – Sync from the tuner.h in v4l ;) |
| [23:01:00] | marmoset: | how do I tell if my pvr250s have FM? |
| [23:01:00] | four8: | No clue what's up there then, because the code was in ivtv first before getting sent to Gerd... |
| [23:01:00] | iggy: | four8: the other tuners were fine, like I said, mine was mysteriously blank |
| [23:03:00] | [Klatuu]: | is the tveeprom module needed for s-video on the PVR-500? |
| [23:04:00] | Dibblah: | No. |
| [23:04:00] | mchou: | marmoset: it has a separate jack on the tuner..... |
| [23:04:00] | Dibblah: | Well, yes and no. |
| [23:04:00] | iggy: | four8: newer tuner version looks like it's all there |
| [23:04:00] | marmoset: | mchou: ah, ok, thanks |
| [23:04:00] | Dibblah: | Klatuu: It provides a hint as to the correct norm. |
| [23:04:00] | Dibblah: | I think. |
| [23:05:00] | four8: | iggy: so that was an older ivtv tuner w/o your tuner and the latest one has it? |
| [23:06:00] | four8: | I know the two were badly out of sync after about tuner #45 before I did some major cleanup |
| [23:06:00] | [Klatuu]: | oh well |
| [23:06:00] | [Klatuu]: | I guess I am just going to have to wait for this card to work |
| [23:07:00] | iggy: | four8: yes, I don't know which version I was using at home that was borked though |
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| [23:07:00] | Mrgoose: | hello |
| [23:07:00] | four8: | I think it was roughly 0.3.2g-ish that I did a big overhaul on it |
| [23:08:00] | Mrgoose: | I extracted a dvd and its in a directory with dvd files like .IFO, .VOB etc . How can i make it into a .iso thats playable as video |
| [23:08:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: what exactly is the problem? |
| [23:08:00] | [Klatuu]: | right now I am getting sound but the red/black static |
| [23:08:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: hmm..... |
| [23:08:00] | iggy: | [Klatuu]: tried the no_black_magic module option? I think that's what fixed that for me |
| [23:09:00] | [Klatuu]: | I have no interest in the analog tuners |
| [23:09:00] | [Klatuu]: | what's your modules.conf line for black magic? |
| [23:09:00] | four8: | Mrgoose: don't rip it that way. Just 'dd if=/dev/dvd of=movie.iso'. |
| [23:09:00] | four8: | options cx25840 no_black_magic=1 |
| [23:11:00] | mchou: | four8: where do I get the *.rom file for 150? |
| [23:12:00] | iggy: | mchou: the driver cd |
| [23:12:00] | iggy: | I think you can get it out of the .zip file from hauppauge's site too |
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| [23:15:00] | demontears: | hi all |
| [23:15:00] | four8: | mchou: what iggy said |
| [23:17:00] | Dibblah: | Think it's in ftp://ftp.shspvr.com/download/media_center_ed . . . 053_whql.zip |
| [23:18:00] | [Klatuu]: | I just tried the no_black_magic_option |
| [23:18:00] | [Klatuu]: | now I have black and gray static |
| [23:18:00] | demontears: | is mythtv wok with a normal vga card or a dvb card ? |
| [23:18:00] | iggy: | well, at least that pesky red is gone |
| [23:19:00] | [Klatuu]: | yeah |
| [23:19:00] | [Klatuu]: | small favors |
| [23:20:00] | Dibblah: | You only want svid input, right? |
| [23:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | yup |
| [23:22:00] | demontears: | plz is mythtv wok with a normal vga card or a dvb card ? |
| [23:22:00] | mchou: | hehe :) |
| [23:22:00] | mchou: | well well..... |
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| [23:24:00] | Dibblah: | So why not just do ivtvctl -p 1 |
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| [23:24:00] | Dibblah: | and see if it works, already? ;) |
| [23:25:00] | [Klatuu]: | trying that now |
| [23:26:00] | ** Beirdo just looked at his recordings graph... since I last watched TV, 50 shows were recorded ** | |
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| [23:26:00] | Beirdo: | 25h of TV |
| [23:26:00] | Beirdo: | crap |
| [23:27:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:27:00] | iggy: | Beirdo: not in a tv mood lately? |
| [23:27:00] | four8: | I think I have like 2.5mo of Daily Show's stacked up... |
| [23:27:00] | Beirdo: | heh, not really. been in a chat online mood |
| [23:27:00] | [Klatuu]: | that works...but the sound is crackly |
| [23:27:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [23:28:00] | mchou: | it's like squeeze cone corner, crap pops out of other corner. |
| [23:28:00] | mchou: | one* |
| [23:28:00] | iggy: | Beirdo: it's that other channel, it'll consume you |
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| [23:28:00] | Dibblah: | What? #nethack? |
| [23:28:00] | Ralph: | mythtv-.18 success! |
| [23:28:00] | Beirdo: | heh, no, it's someone far away... female. |
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| [23:29:00] | Ralph: | pvr 500 both tuners work change channels, audio |
| [23:29:00] | Ralph: | on LFS |
| [23:29:00] | [Klatuu]: | how do I adjust the video quality on the PVR-500? |
| [23:29:00] | Dibblah: | Buy a 250. |
| [23:29:00] | Dibblah: | ;) |
| [23:30:00] | Dibblah: | ivtvctl -? |
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| [23:30:00] | [Klatuu]: | well |
| [23:30:00] | Dibblah: | Specifically, -c, --set-codec-params=[param],[param],... |
| [23:30:00] | [Klatuu]: | hrmm |
| [23:30:00] | Ralph: | are you using deinterlace in setup for mythfrontend |
| [23:30:00] | [Klatuu]: | me? |
| [23:31:00] | Ralph: | yeah |
| [23:31:00] | [Klatuu]: | no |
| [23:31:00] | [Klatuu]: | I am jsut getting video working |
| [23:31:00] | Ralph: | or did I jump into a conversation and am way off base |
| [23:31:00] | mchou: | can someone post the relevant sections in /etc/modprobe.conf for their 150 pls? |
| [23:31:00] | [Klatuu]: | haven't tried it in myth yet |
| [23:31:00] | Dibblah: | Sure: |
| [23:31:00] | Dibblah: | [Start section] |
| [23:32:00] | Dibblah: | [End section] |
| [23:32:00] | mchou: | cause it's nit clear to me whether all this wm8775 and saa7127 is necessary.... |
| [23:32:00] | Dibblah: | ie don't do any configuration, at least the first time. |
| [23:32:00] | mchou: | not* |
| [23:32:00] | Ralph: | pvr 150 or 500 |
| [23:32:00] | Dibblah: | It'll autodetect as soon as you probe ivtv. |
| [23:32:00] | four8: | Jarod's modprobe.conf for a 150: |
| [23:33:00] | four8: | alias char-major-81 videodev |
| [23:33:00] | four8: | alias char-major-81–0 ivtv |
| [23:33:00] | four8: | options cx25840 no_black_magic=1 |
| [23:33:00] | four8: | And that's it. |
| [23:33:00] | mchou: | that's it?? |
| [23:33:00] | mchou: | lol :) |
| [23:33:00] | four8: | yup |
| [23:33:00] | Ralph: | I have that plus |
| [23:33:00] | four8: | Add a -1 ivtv line for my 500 |
| [23:33:00] | iggy: | four8: the black_magic thing is only for ntsc right? |
| [23:33:00] | Ralph: | options ivtv ivtv_std=0 tuner=57,57 tda9887=0,0 ivtv_debug=1 |
| [23:33:00] | mchou: | guess autodetection works pretty well then :) |
| [23:33:00] | Ralph: | options cx25840 i2c_enable=1 |
| [23:33:00] | Ralph: | options saa7127 i2c_enable=-1 |
| [23:34:00] | iggy: | Ralph: the point he was making was that autodetection should work in most cases |
| [23:34:00] | Ralph: | if only a single 150, then you can do away with the second set of options |
| [23:34:00] | xris: | four8: man, ivtv has jumped a lot of versions lately |
| [23:34:00] | four8: | xris: yeah, ck's been busy |
| [23:34:00] | Dibblah: | Divorce. |
| [23:35:00] | xris: | I thought the no_black_magic thing was PAL-only. |
| [23:35:00] | four8: | couldn't believe how many it jumped just over the course of my being on vacation |
| [23:35:00] | Ralph: | I'll have to comment out all that stuff and see if it still works |
| [23:35:00] | Ralph: | i'm ntsc |
| [23:35:00] | xris: | I don't think I have any special options set for my pvr-150 |
| [23:35:00] | four8: | no_black_magic=1 was only for ntsc |
| [23:35:00] | xris: | oh |
| [23:35:00] | mchou: | four8: what tuner type is on the 150? |
| [23:35:00] | xris: | hmm, must be tuner-related, then. |
| [23:35:00] | four8: | might not be needed anymore, I'm way behind on what's changed |
| [23:35:00] | xris: | which I don't deal with |
| [23:35:00] | Ralph: | but this is the same options I used for .3.2s which were all needed to get it to work |
| [23:35:00] | xris: | mchou: 47 for me |
| [23:35:00] | mchou: | four8: on yours :) |
| [23:35:00] | four8: | mchou: there are a LOT of tuner types on the ... |
| [23:35:00] | four8: | oh |
| [23:35:00] | four8: | 47 on mine |
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| [23:36:00] | mchou: | xris, four8 : thx. |
| [23:36:00] | SenorT: | hi there ppl |
| [23:36:00] | SenorT: | where can i find more themes for mythtv ? |
| [23:36:00] | xris: | four8: I didn't need anything special for mine, but I don't actually use the tuner, just svideo |
| [23:36:00] | four8: | the i2c_enable stuff is only needed if you have a 150 or 500 in the same box as a 350 |
| [23:37:00] | mchou: | xris: does your 150 actual have a /dev/radio? |
| [23:38:00] | mchou: | actually* |
| [23:38:00] | mchou: | and does it work in linux? :) |
| [23:39:00] | iggy: | mine doesn't |
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| [23:39:00] | xris: | mchou: dunno, I don't use it. |
| [23:39:00] | xris: | (the 150, that is) |
| [23:39:00] | mchou: | xris: can you check if /dev/radio exists, though? |
| [23:39:00] | mchou: | just the file :) |
| [23:39:00] | xris: | let me see if I can load the drivers. |
| [23:40:00] | Dibblah: | hub dev # ls radio* |
| [23:40:00] | Dibblah: | radio0 radio1 |
| [23:40:00] | iggy: | mchou: mine doesn't |
| [23:40:00] | mchou: | alright, thx all. |
| [23:40:00] | Dibblah: | This is on a 150, non-MCE (Has the IR port), but I think PAL land cards are different. |
| [23:40:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: weird. non MCE has radio on card, no? |
| [23:41:00] | xris: | mchou: no radio for me |
| [23:41:00] | Dibblah: | Mine does. |
| [23:41:00] | mchou: | oops, meant retail DOES NOT have radio on card. |
| [23:41:00] | mchou: | now this is getthing really weird. |
| [23:41:00] | Dibblah: | Like I said, I think PAL cards are different. |
| [23:43:00] | xris: | Dibblah: there are no "PAL" cards. |
| [23:43:00] | mchou: | yeah, it's the same card everywhere :) |
| [23:43:00] | xris: | all cards do pal/ntsc/secam |
| [23:43:00] | mchou: | but maybe the tuners are different? |
| [23:44:00] | xris: | well, there are apparently a handful of different tuners, even between "same" versions of the card. |
| [23:44:00] | four8: | tuners are either NTSC or PAL/SECAM |
| [23:44:00] | mchou: | four8: yeah, that's what I meant. |
| [23:45:00] | four8: | thus far, the 500s have been consistent on tuner type, but yeah, there's a ton of different tuners on 150 cards |
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| [23:45:00] | mchou: | I guess hauppauge doesnt believe in single source :) |
| [23:46:00] | mchou: | too many goddamn tuners and spins of the "same" product. |
| [23:46:00] | four8: | on the up side, hauppauge is nice enough to provide data for most of them |
| [23:47:00] | four8: | including an index table that makes it easy enough to auto-detect what tuner is what |
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| [23:48:00] | mchou: | yeah, but I mean someone can get the "same" product but have vastly different picture quality due to tuner change..... |
| [23:48:00] | mchou: | so it's a crapshhot. |
| [23:48:00] | mchou: | shoot* |
| [23:49:00] | [Klatuu]: | so what is the syntax of the bitrate parameter for ivtvctl. I tried ivtvctl -c bitrate=9600 and it looks like shit. I am trying for the maximum bitrate |
| [23:49:00] | mchou: | pretty much means revies are worthless. |
| [23:50:00] | Dibblah: | Bitrate is in bytes / sec, I think. *1000 from what you have. |
| [23:51:00] | Dibblah: | Also, if you're using the 150 / 500, use f. MUCH better picture quality due to http://www.ivtv.tv/releases/ivtv-0.3/ivtv-0.3.3e_f.diff |
| [23:52:00] | mchou: | wow, that irblaster looks really fragile..... |
| [23:53:00] | mchou: | wires are tiny. |
| [23:54:00] | mchou: | here is what it says on the tuner casing: NTSC/NTSC-J 26032 Rev C199 |
| [23:56:00] | mchou: | and it's nice hauppauge finally went to the long connector on the tuner module. |
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| [23:56:00] | [Klatuu]: | hrmm |
| [23:57:00] | mchou: | short connector sucked. |
| [23:57:00] | [Klatuu]: | audio still sounds like crap |
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| [23:59:00] | Dibblah: | [Klatuu]: You have the audio firmware, right? |
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