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| [00:04:00] | gratuit: | anyone know if installing the nvidia drivers rather than using the nv drivers gives any better image quality? |
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| [00:04:00] | gratuit: | for output to a TV over s-video |
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| [00:08:00] | iggy: | gratuit: I'd think so, but never tried personally |
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| [00:12:00] | metusine: | anyone using lirc with 2.6.11ish kernel? |
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| [00:13:00] | gratuit: | metusine: only 2.6.10 here |
| [00:13:00] | metusine: | close enough! |
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| [00:13:00] | metusine: | what's the current method of getting it going? |
| [00:13:00] | metusine: | last time i had to (round 2.6.4ish) you had to patch the kernel sources |
| [00:14:00] | gratuit: | metusine: I just compiled modules |
| [00:14:00] | metusine: | which gave you lirc modules |
| [00:14:00] | gratuit: | metusine: yep |
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| [00:14:00] | metusine: | was it from the vanilla kernel source? or patched? |
| [00:15:00] | gratuit: | metusine: I used the headers provided by my distro(ubuntu) it's patched a bit |
| [00:15:00] | gratuit: | metusine: but if you mean did I ever patch the kernelsource with lirc patches, the answer is no |
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| [00:18:00] | metusine: | MMM |
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| [00:18:00] | metusine: | doh. damned caps lock |
| [00:18:00] | metusine: | that's pretty much what i was driving at. |
| [00:20:00] | metusine: | so under 2.6.10, you've got (iirrc) Device Drivers -> Character Devices -> Lirce Serial Support? |
| [00:20:00] | metusine: | cos it seems to be missing completely from mine |
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| [00:23:00] | _shad: | Is there any way to refresh just today's data with mythfilldatabase and datadirect? |
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| [00:25:00] | marmoset: | _shad: did you try --refresh-today ? |
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| [00:27:00] | _shad: | nope |
| [00:27:00] | _shad: | I'll try now |
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| [00:36:00] | _shad: | marmoset: Seemed to work, thanks. |
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| [00:40:00] | metusine: | gratuit: can you check it that makes your menuconfig? |
| [00:40:00] | metusine: | or am i just looking in the wrong place? |
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| [00:46:00] | gratuit: | metusine: you don't have to do menuconfig, |
| [00:47:00] | gratuit: | metusine: just do a make, make install in the lirc source directory, and it should copy the modules into the /lib/modules directory somewhere |
| [00:47:00] | gratuit: | they are called lirc_<driver_name> |
| [00:48:00] | gratuit: | mine is lirc_i2c |
| [00:48:00] | metusine: | ahh, so you don't have the lirc options in your kernel config at all? |
| [00:48:00] | gratuit: | metusine: no, you can compile modules without messing with the kernel config |
| [00:48:00] | metusine: | yeah |
| [00:48:00] | metusine: | that's my confusion |
| [00:49:00] | metusine: | i had a patch 2.6.4 kernel that had it all built in |
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| [00:49:00] | metusine: | so was compiled as a module from there |
| [00:49:00] | kgbudz: | i just switched video cards, etc |
| [00:49:00] | kgbudz: | setup everything |
| [00:49:00] | metusine: | so that's why i've been hunting round in there for options |
| [00:49:00] | kgbudz: | but on my desktop is an X icon |
| [00:49:00] | kgbudz: | an icon in the shape of a black x |
| [00:50:00] | gratuit: | metusine: just make sure the source or headers in /usr/src/linux mathes your running kernel, and you can compile the modules without messing with it |
| [00:50:00] | metusine: | k, i'll give that a try |
| [00:50:00] | metusine: | cheers |
| [00:51:00] | Cromz: | b;ah b;ah.. just home from work. work bad! |
| [00:52:00] | gratuit: | metusine: if you want to make sure the modules built and installed after doing a 'make install' (and find out what they are called so you can modprobe them) just do a cd /lib/modules; find -name '*lirc*' |
| [00:52:00] | metusine: | yeah |
| [00:52:00] | metusine: | i get that far |
| [00:53:00] | metusine: | i modprobe lirc_serial |
| [00:53:00] | metusine: | which loads with no error's in dmsg |
| [00:53:00] | metusine: | but instead of creating the /dev/lirc/lirc0 devices like it used to, it creates /dev/lirc/0 |
| [00:54:00] | gratuit: | is that a problem? |
| [00:54:00] | metusine: | which although lircd seems happy to attach to |
| [00:54:00] | metusine: | mode2 -d /dev/lirc/0 gives me no signal at all |
| [00:54:00] | gratuit: | metusine: tried running mode2 with no arguments? |
| [00:55:00] | gratuit: | I'm not sure what it's defaults are, I actually never had to mess with device files |
| [00:55:00] | metusine: | with no args it tries to attach to /dev/lirc |
| [00:55:00] | gratuit: | it "just worked" automagically for me |
| [00:55:00] | metusine: | which is a directory |
| [00:55:00] | gratuit: | ah |
| [00:56:00] | metusine: | yeah, it used to work nicely for me in the past |
| [00:56:00] | metusine: | upgraded machine yesterday |
| [00:56:00] | metusine: | and it died on the new kernel |
| [00:56:00] | metusine: | i may just have to go back to 2.6.4 |
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| [01:03:00] | NightMonkey: | metusine: I'm using lirc with 2.6.10. |
| [01:04:00] | NightMonkey: | metusine: Have a Hauppague remote for the PVR-350, too. |
| [01:04:00] | NightMonkey: | metusine: Works fine. I do use the lirc_i2c method of connection, which seems to be easier. |
| [01:05:00] | NightMonkey: | metusine: However, it also worked well for me under 2.6.5. |
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| [01:05:00] | NightMonkey: | metusine: IIRC, 2.6.5 had an lirc update. Anyone confirm? |
| [01:05:00] | metusine: | mm |
| [01:06:00] | metusine: | that would make sense though |
| [01:06:00] | metusine: | whats' the difference between lirc_serial and lirc_i2c? |
| [01:06:00] | NightMonkey: | metusine: Don't really know, but I'd guess that one uses the serial port and the other whatever is on the i2c wire? |
| [01:07:00] | metusine: | ahhh |
| [01:07:00] | metusine: | so not really an option for my serial lirc reciever :p |
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| [01:08:00] | NightMonkey: | metusine: Nope :). |
| [01:08:00] | NightMonkey: | metusine: However, if you do a "modprobe lirc_serial" you might notice some helpful options you can pass to debug your issues. |
| [01:08:00] | metusine: | yeah |
| [01:08:00] | NightMonkey: | metusine: Increase debugging level, etc. |
| [01:08:00] | metusine: | modinfo you mean? |
| [01:09:00] | NightMonkey: | metusine: Yes, sorry. |
| [01:09:00] | metusine: | i didn't spot anything in there bout debugging levels |
| [01:09:00] | metusine: | will have another look |
| [01:09:00] | NightMonkey: | metusine: Perhaps that's only available in a later lirc. I'm running lirc 0.7.0, btw. |
| [01:13:00] | metusine: | argh |
| [01:13:00] | metusine: | it's there |
| [01:13:00] | metusine: | debug=1 |
| [01:13:00] | metusine: | there's no error message |
| [01:13:00] | metusine: | devices are created |
| [01:13:00] | metusine: | i get a voltage swing on the hardware when i push a button on the remote |
| [01:14:00] | metusine: | but mode2 says nothing |
| [01:14:00] | metusine: | = [ |
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| [01:17:00] | kgbudz: | is ivtv-fb supposed to load when running a pvr350 and NOT using it for tvout |
| [01:18:00] | kgbudz: | because somehow ivtv-fb and bttv are loading on my system |
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| [01:22:00] | mini-morfic: | this is interesting looking, when i go to the list of recorded shows, the small previews have "red noise" in them now since upgrading to .18 |
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| [01:22:00] | littlewashu: | oops disconnect |
| [01:23:00] | littlewashu: | Could anyone tell me how to start the mysql server? it's crazy when i reinstalled the old command didn't work and now mythtv is getting fussie |
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| [01:27:00] | darkfrog: | I just updated to the newest KDE on my FC3 box and now it refuses to start X – it says that no valid screens were found...? (I'm running it through my TV if that makes any difference) |
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| [01:30:00] | jams: | sounds like more the kde was updated |
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| [01:32:00] | Cromz: | ya sounds like /etc/X11/xorg.conf got updated like mine did that one time at kernel camp.. er.. hmmm |
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| [01:34:00] | jams: | heh kernel camp |
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| [01:35:00] | myra-bsu: | good evenign all |
| [01:35:00] | jams: | hi |
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| [01:36:00] | mchou: | sigh, this belkin router sucks. |
| [01:36:00] | myra-bsu: | how are you guys doing tonight? |
| [01:37:00] | mchou: | cant assign a static ip on lan based on MAC address. |
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| [01:38:00] | BreezBl0k: | hi im having a problem with mythtv-0.18 the frontend is full screen and then when i go on watch tv the tv is displayed in a window ive downgraded to 0.17 and i dont have that problem |
| [01:39:00] | mchou: | wow, all sorts of weirdness..... |
| [01:39:00] | ServerSage: | Hey ya'll. If this is in the documentation somewhere, please point me at it. But, I'd like to add more than 1 directory for MythTV to store recordings in. Is this possible? |
| [01:39:00] | Agrajag-: | no. it's in the docs, read the LVM part |
| [01:40:00] | Agrajag-: | or around the lvm part anyway |
| [01:40:00] | BreezBl0k: | any one else having the same issues as me? |
| [01:40:00] | mchou: | it would be nice to have lvm over nfs though :) |
| [01:40:00] | mchou: | that would be cool. A cluster FS. |
| [01:41:00] | ServerSage: | Thanks a ton Agrajag. |
| [01:41:00] | riksta: | mchou: !! |
| [01:41:00] | mchou: | single system image |
| [01:41:00] | riksta: | http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4171 check this out |
| [01:41:00] | mchou: | fix your mobo? |
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| [01:41:00] | riksta: | possibly |
| [01:42:00] | riksta: | he has same h/w environment as me |
| [01:42:00] | riksta: | and he gets the same probs |
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| [01:42:00] | riksta: | am gonna have a look at this patch |
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| [01:43:00] | riksta: | what you make to that |
| [01:43:00] | mchou: | riksta: entirely possible. |
| [01:43:00] | mchou: | lemme know how that works out for ya. |
| [01:43:00] | riksta: | i can't apply that patch to my i2c-core.c file though, nothing is similar |
| [01:44:00] | mchou: | what kernel you using? |
| [01:44:00] | riksta: | 2.6.11-gentoo-r6 atm |
| [01:44:00] | mchou: | lol, no wonder. |
| [01:44:00] | riksta: | yeah but i tried a ton |
| [01:44:00] | mchou: | use a vanilla kernel. |
| [01:45:00] | mchou: | vanilla kernel from kernel.org. |
| [01:45:00] | riksta: | yeah im getting one again |
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| [01:45:00] | riksta: | what you reckon 2.6.11 or 2.6.10 |
| [01:45:00] | marmoset: | 2.4.30 |
| [01:45:00] | marmoset: | ;) |
| [01:45:00] | riksta: | hehe |
| [01:45:00] | mchou: | riksta: try 2.6.11rc3 :) |
| [01:46:00] | mchou: | then try 2.6.11 :) |
| [01:46:00] | mchou: | get it working first* |
| [01:46:00] | riksta: | its up to 2.6.11.7 on kernel.org |
| [01:46:00] | mchou: | or I sould say confirm that it works first for you. |
| [01:46:00] | mchou: | should* |
| [01:46:00] | riksta: | linux-2.6.11.7.tar.bz2 ill try this |
| [01:47:00] | mchou: | lol, living dangerously, eh? |
| [01:47:00] | riksta: | hmm ok |
| [01:47:00] | riksta: | sod that |
| [01:48:00] | riksta: | linux-2.6.11.tar.bz2 it is |
| [01:49:00] | mchou: | riksta: but you know what's weird?? |
| [01:50:00] | riksta: | what |
| [01:50:00] | mchou: | you didn't load bttv and you still had 118 ERR in /proc/interrupts...... |
| [01:50:00] | riksta: | the ERR stuff? i realised i wasn't using APIC at all, now im using APIC and i get no ERR |
| [01:50:00] | mchou: | try not loading i2c and if ERR goes to 0. |
| [01:50:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [01:50:00] | riksta: | i dont have ERR now |
| [01:50:00] | riksta: | http://pastebin.ca/9851 |
| [01:51:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [01:51:00] | riksta: | weird huh |
| [01:51:00] | riksta: | before they said X-PIC |
| [01:51:00] | mchou: | that's some wird shit. |
| [01:51:00] | mchou: | weird* |
| [01:51:00] | riksta: | now they say IO-APIC-level |
| [01:52:00] | mchou: | heh, re-enable apic in bios, eh? |
| [01:52:00] | marmoset: | apic causes me no end of pain |
| [01:52:00] | riksta: | yeah |
| [01:52:00] | riksta: | just to test |
| [01:52:00] | riksta: | yeah i know marmoset |
| [01:52:00] | marmoset: | that's why I went back to 2.4 :) |
| [01:52:00] | riksta: | i was just going through everything....every single combination |
| [01:53:00] | mchou: | LOC is not a good sign either...... |
| [01:53:00] | riksta: | what is LOC |
| [01:53:00] | mchou: | means yer system aint running optimally. |
| [01:53:00] | riksta: | bollocks |
| [01:54:00] | mchou: | LOC==Local interrupt counter. |
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| [01:55:00] | mchou: | riksta: but that's not as big a deal :) |
| [01:55:00] | riksta: | the big deal is i cant watch tv :P |
| [01:55:00] | mchou: | sheesh. lazy guy. |
| [01:56:00] | riksta: | eh? |
| [01:56:00] | mchou: | I want my MTV.......:) |
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| [01:56:00] | riksta: | i'm compiling vanilla as we speak |
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| [01:57:00] | riksta: | i still think my cpu or mobo is probably mashed |
| [01:57:00] | riksta: | i'm borrowing my flatmates pc tomorrow to do the tests |
| [01:58:00] | mchou: | nah. |
| [01:58:00] | riksta: | it's been locking up without the bttv card in |
| [01:58:00] | mchou: | turning on APIC restored karma. |
| [01:59:00] | mchou: | riksta: "ERR is incremented in the case of errors in the IO-APIC bus (the bus that connects the CPUs in a SMP system. This means that an error has been detected, the IO-APIC automatically retry the transmission, so it should not be a big problem, but you should read the SMP-FAQ." |
| [02:00:00] | riksta: | i only get ERR when APIC is NOT enabled |
| [02:01:00] | riksta: | and i have no SMP enabled |
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| [02:03:00] | mchou: | riksta: how long does a kernel compile take for ya? |
| [02:03:00] | riksta: | it just finished |
| [02:03:00] | Igg-man: | I have choppy audio recording, is there something I could do to fix the issue? |
| [02:03:00] | riksta: | as you said that |
| [02:04:00] | mchou: | riksta: probably got it down to a science now :) |
| [02:04:00] | riksta: | haha |
| [02:04:00] | riksta: | brb |
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| [02:09:00] | protonchris: | when recording using myth, my logs fill up with: |
| [02:09:00] | protonchris: | ivtv: Timeout waiting for data! Encoder buffers have 0x00000000 bytes. |
| [02:09:00] | protonchris: | Is this a myth problem? |
| [02:10:00] | mchou: | protonchris: what do you think? |
| [02:10:00] | mchou: | ivtv in front of the message doesnt give you a hint where the problem lies? |
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| [02:11:00] | riksta: | same shit |
| [02:12:00] | mchou: | well well.... |
| [02:12:00] | riksta: | *sigh* |
| [02:12:00] | mchou: | so close and yet so far.... |
| [02:12:00] | riksta: | http://pastebin.ca/9857 |
| [02:12:00] | mchou: | spend the 35# already :) |
| [02:13:00] | mchou: | you sure the patch applied clean? |
| [02:13:00] | riksta: | that's without the patch |
| [02:13:00] | riksta: | the patch doesn't apply at all |
| [02:13:00] | riksta: | plus, looking at it now |
| [02:13:00] | mchou: | yeah, reverse patch. |
| [02:13:00] | riksta: | how |
| [02:13:00] | riksta: | i lost the link |
| [02:13:00] | mchou: | now, I meant the post at kernel.org is a reverse patch. |
| [02:14:00] | riksta: | oh |
| [02:14:00] | mchou: | http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4171 |
| [02:14:00] | riksta: | how do you do that |
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| [02:14:00] | mchou: | do what? |
| [02:14:00] | riksta: | reverse |
| [02:14:00] | riksta: | i just did |
| [02:14:00] | riksta: | patch -p0 < foo.patch |
| [02:15:00] | mchou: | patch -R |
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| [02:16:00] | riksta: | im confused |
| [02:16:00] | riksta: | looking at the code there's nothing like wat the patch is trying to do |
| [02:17:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [02:17:00] | riksta: | seriously |
| [02:17:00] | mchou: | the patch command should have told ya if (reverse) patch apllied clean. |
| [02:17:00] | mchou: | applied* |
| [02:18:00] | riksta: | it doesnt all hunks fail, because the code looks nothing like what its asking |
| [02:18:00] | mchou: | well, told ya to use rc3, ya didnt believe me. |
| [02:18:00] | mchou: | sheesh. |
| [02:18:00] | mchou: | kids. |
| [02:19:00] | riksta: | lol |
| [02:19:00] | riksta: | dude i didnt realise it had to be that |
| [02:19:00] | riksta: | that is rc3-mm1 |
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| [02:19:00] | riksta: | mm sources are some heavy patched sources |
| [02:19:00] | mchou: | I didn't say it had to be that. I said make sure that it worked first on rc3 |
| [02:20:00] | mchou: | true |
| [02:20:00] | mchou: | maybe you should get mm, who knows. |
| [02:20:00] | riksta: | i'm about to throw the fuckin thing out of the window |
| [02:20:00] | riksta: | :) |
| [02:20:00] | mchou: | that mobo is more trouble than it's worth. |
| [02:21:00] | riksta: | but you advised to get a via chipset, and you said via was shit :) |
| [02:21:00] | mchou: | 35# buys you sleep and piece of mind, not to mention TV :) |
| [02:21:00] | riksta: | www.microdirect.co.uk find me a mobo on there then :) |
| [02:21:00] | mchou: | yeah, the shit is relative :) |
| [02:21:00] | mchou: | there are logs and there are the runs :) |
| [02:22:00] | riksta: | LOL |
| [02:23:00] | mchou: | ya should have taken me up on my offer weeks ago :) |
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| [02:23:00] | riksta: | lol |
| [02:23:00] | riksta: | what mobo then, on that website |
| [02:23:00] | mchou: | but no, you didn't trust me. |
| [02:23:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mchou: do you run with the strict setting on on comm flagging? and do the shows being flagged have logos on the blank frames between show and commercial? |
| [02:23:00] | mchou: | ah, Captain_Murdoch, been waiting for ya all day. |
| [02:24:00] | mchou: | no, I dont run with strict,. (never have) |
| [02:24:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | been at work, but saw your message in scrollback. |
| [02:24:00] | mchou: | nice of ya to respond. :) |
| [02:24:00] | mchou: | damn, your scrollback goes back that far? |
| [02:24:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | days |
| [02:25:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | and your post was just this morning I think. |
| [02:25:00] | mchou: | yeah. |
| [02:26:00] | mchou: | theres been some weirdness. xris has trouble with mpeg4, defaultro has some other weirdness, and I have mpeg2 weirdness. |
| [02:26:00] | mchou: | this is stock .18. |
| [02:26:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, I've got pretty much stock 18 on my main system also and have been seeing some weirdness. do you know if the shows you're having problems with have the logo on their blank frames between show and commercial? |
| [02:26:00] | mchou: | xris said his was cvs a week or two before .18 though. |
| [02:27:00] | mchou: | hmm, honestly can recall, sorry. (deleted recordings already due to lack of disk space.) |
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| [02:27:00] | mchou: | cant* |
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| [02:28:00] | mchou: | but there will be stuff later on tonight, I can check for that..... |
| [02:28:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | hmm. ok. I'm going to do some looking tonight anyway. something went weird with my system anyway, my shows aren't getting flagged, they're stopping flagging within a few seconds and returning 0 breaks found, but when I manually reflag I think they're ok (except for missed commercials because of the logo on the blank frames). |
| [02:28:00] | kgbudz: | ok, i was using pvr350 to do output, i switched to a vga converter and now nothing works |
| [02:29:00] | mchou: | actually, I do remember. 24 deinitely has logo.... |
| [02:29:00] | kgbudz: | video playback and live tv |
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| [02:29:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, thanks. I'm seeing bad detection because of that. |
| [02:30:00] | mchou: | CSI played back fine from last nite, dont recall if there is logo on that one. |
| [02:30:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mchou: if you don't use strict the patch I'm thinking of couldn't have broken it for you, may be something else, I'll look into it. |
| [02:30:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | just remembered it only applied when strict was on for the logo-on-blank-frame part. |
| [02:30:00] | mchou: | so you may be right about logo theory. |
| [02:30:00] | itsame: | anyone have any idea why GOOM and BUMPSCOPE visual's would break after installing 0.18? |
| [02:30:00] | riksta: | is logo detect broken then? |
| [02:30:00] | mchou: | but again, I dont use strict. |
| [02:31:00] | itsame: | are they opengl ? |
| [02:31:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, so I'm going to have to look into it. |
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| [02:31:00] | riksta: | itsame: yeah |
| [02:31:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | riksta: not sure, don't remember messing with that pre 0.18. |
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| [02:31:00] | itsame: | coo..I swear I did the /configure opengl option for mythmusic |
| [02:31:00] | riksta: | ok |
| [02:31:00] | itsame: | but i'll try again |
| [02:31:00] | riksta: | mchou: brb gonna try an old 2.6.9 kernel incase its these new ones that broke whatever it is, as i really didnt try that far back, but i know it worked then |
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| [02:32:00] | mchou: | riksta: good plan. but any via mobo ought to work. |
| [02:32:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mchou: 0.18 right? do you compile from source? |
| [02:33:00] | mchou: | d/l .18 from cvs night of .18 release, I believe. |
| [02:33:00] | mchou: | lemme double check..... |
| [02:34:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, just curious cause I might get you to try a patch if I don't decide to revert some code in CVS. |
| [02:34:00] | mchou: | yeah, sure. Just let me know. |
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| [02:35:00] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: actually it's .18 release tarball, not cvs. |
| [02:36:00] | riksta: | same thing, ARGH |
| [02:36:00] | mchou: | riksta: btw, I think virtually any via mobo would do the trick, if you are seriously considering that route. |
| [02:36:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, I'm going to look at something and might generate a patch to revert some code that went shortly before 0.18. |
| [02:37:00] | mchou: | riksta: but try the CPU on your friends comp to make sure that it aint failing :) |
| [02:38:00] | riksta: | mchou: i dunno how i can make sure of that now tho |
| [02:38:00] | mchou: | cause I'd hate for you to get a mobo and still have the same problem. |
| [02:38:00] | riksta: | as i'm not getting the ERR crap |
| [02:38:00] | riksta: | yeah i'd hate it too |
| [02:38:00] | riksta: | :P |
| [02:39:00] | mchou: | bring the knoppix cd to the store along with bttv card and try it out :) |
| [02:39:00] | riksta: | lol |
| [02:39:00] | riksta: | sure they'll let me do that :P |
| [02:39:00] | riksta: | thing is |
| [02:39:00] | mchou: | if bttv still gives you crap, then you know it's not CPU :) |
| [02:39:00] | riksta: | what if both of the bttv cards are fucked, i better try it in my mates comp |
| [02:40:00] | mchou: | riksta: why is that funny? it's legit way to try things out. |
| [02:40:00] | riksta: | they wont let me |
| [02:40:00] | mchou: | I doubt if both bttv cards are screwed. If so you might as well play loteery pronto :) |
| [02:40:00] | mchou: | lottery* |
| [02:41:00] | riksta: | well if im this unlucky with hardware..... i deserve to be lucky on the lottery :P |
| [02:41:00] | mchou: | what kind of store wont let you try stuff out?? |
| [02:41:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mchou: is it mainly detecting commercial as show or show as commercial or both? |
| [02:41:00] | riksta: | mchou: www.microdirect.co.uk :P |
| [02:42:00] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: here is the deal: I think commercials are 3–4 minutes. After .18 upgrade, they went to 5+ minutes. |
| [02:42:00] | mchou: | and the last set of commercials dont get flagged. |
| [02:42:00] | mchou: | generally speaking. |
| [02:43:00] | mchou: | so commercials cut into show. |
| [02:43:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, so it's detection show as commercial except the last commercial |
| [02:43:00] | mchou: | yeah, exactly. |
| [02:43:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | detecting... :) keep typing detection, had to backspace twice over that word earlier. |
| [02:44:00] | Cromz: | spanking of that.. while watching a recorded show.. and you hit E anyone getting the osd on .18? cause I dont' see it. heh |
| [02:44:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, I have an idea what that might be if you're not using strict. |
| [02:44:00] | riksta: | spanking? lol |
| [02:44:00] | marmoset: | do .18 frontends work with .17 backends? |
| [02:44:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | marmoset: no |
| [02:44:00] | marmoset: | ok |
| [02:44:00] | marmoset: | I'll leave things alone for now then :) |
| [02:44:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | don't try it or you'll be forced to upgrade your backend since the 0.18 frontend will upgrade your database. |
| [02:45:00] | marmoset: | heh, thanks for the warning :) |
| [02:45:00] | Cromz: | riksta: yeah well I gotta add some sort of joke ;) cause if ya can't laugh at yourself for mis-compiling then who can you laugh at? :> |
| [02:45:00] | riksta: | :) |
| [02:46:00] | riksta: | i'm more in the mood for crying atm |
| [02:46:00] | riksta: | rather than laughing |
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| [02:46:00] | Cromz: | I knwo the problems I'm having are ones I've created due to my lack of knowledge of linux / myth heh |
| [02:46:00] | Cromz: | er know |
| [02:52:00] | mchou: | riksta: what chipset is your friend's comp? |
| [02:53:00] | riksta: | i dunno |
| [02:53:00] | riksta: | will have to look tomorrow |
| [02:53:00] | mchou: | if he has via you might be in luck. |
| [02:53:00] | riksta: | could swap em |
| [02:53:00] | mchou: | he runs linux or windows? |
| [02:53:00] | riksta: | windows |
| [02:53:00] | mchou: | yeah, I 'd find out b4 doing any swapping. |
| [02:54:00] | riksta: | he has a shit pc tho |
| [02:54:00] | mchou: | if he has nforce2 it will be pointless exercise. |
| [02:54:00] | riksta: | i don't want his mobo |
| [02:54:00] | riksta: | its a HP thing |
| [02:54:00] | riksta: | i tihnk |
| [02:54:00] | mchou: | you just testing out theory is all. |
| [02:54:00] | riksta: | ya |
| [02:54:00] | mchou: | ot after his mobo, lol. |
| [02:54:00] | mchou: | not* |
| [02:55:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mchou, were these shows with lots of darker scenes? |
| [02:55:00] | mchou: | 24 and raymond. |
| [02:55:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | is that yes and no? :) |
| [02:55:00] | mchou: | 24 is definitely dark, but not raymond. |
| [02:55:00] | riksta: | hehe, i like both those shows |
| [02:55:00] | mchou: | and CSI is dark (but worked fine) |
| [02:56:00] | mchou: | well CSI:Miami. |
| [02:56:00] | mchou: | which is liter than other CSI's :) |
| [02:56:00] | mchou: | lighter* |
| [02:57:00] | riksta: | mchou: i'm going to post to the bttv list |
| [02:57:00] | mchou: | yeah, good plan. |
| [02:57:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, thanks. got a show I'm testing something with now. |
| [02:57:00] | mchou: | but really, I'd end that self torture :) |
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| [02:59:00] | mchou: | riksta: I mean 35# shouldn't be a decision at all. |
| [02:59:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | xris, do you know what date your CVS checkout of mythtv is from? I'm looking into the comm flag issues tonight and was wondering when you updated so I can see if I see anything that went in before that that might have broken things for you. |
| [02:59:00] | mchou: | riksta: I'd get it just to get piece of mind. |
| [02:59:00] | riksta: | mchou: but its the principal |
| [02:59:00] | xris: | Captain_Murdoch: 20050404 |
| [02:59:00] | mchou: | peace* |
| [02:59:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, thanks. |
| [03:00:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | xris: and it's worse than what version you had before? |
| [03:00:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | and do you run with strict on or off? |
| [03:01:00] | xris: | .16 was the most accurate |
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| [03:01:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | using just blank-frame? |
| [03:01:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [03:01:00] | xris: | it's about the same now for any of the settings. |
| [03:01:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok. and does it detect show as commercial? |
| [03:01:00] | xris: | about half of the shows are ok, the other half are completely random... tiny chunks scattered throughout the first half of the show, nothing in the second half. |
| [03:02:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok. sounds like what I'm looking at. I think the blank-frame stuff is getting false positives so the block it detects are wrong. thanks for the info. |
| [03:02:00] | xris: | overall, even when it does work, it's generally about 1–5 seconds off (early, in most cases) |
| [03:03:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, thanks. |
| [03:03:00] | xris: | oh, one other thing.. It doesn't correctly detect preroll stuff. If I record 1–3 mins early (stupid tv networks and time shifts) or so, it won't always catch that first chunk as a commercial. |
| [03:03:00] | xris: | I can give you more info and test stuff if you need it. |
| [03:04:00] | xris: | well, once I get this massive work-related database issue sorted out (replicated databases out of sync, blech) |
| [03:04:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | let me look at a few things and I might come back with more questions. :) I think I know why it's getting the false positives. |
| [03:04:00] | mchou: | riksta: http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx . . . ;GroupID=528 |
| [03:04:00] | mchou: | cheap, but will work. |
| [03:05:00] | riksta: | not enough pci slots :) |
| [03:05:00] | mchou: | true. |
| [03:05:00] | riksta: | i dont mind paying more money |
| [03:06:00] | riksta: | i just want it to work |
| [03:06:00] | riksta: | guaranteed |
| [03:06:00] | itsame: | one more question...using a IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller and ever since 0.17 mythvideo / music and tv playback seems to skip audio every once and awhile...I can fix it when it's skipping by tapping ffwd or rew |
| [03:06:00] | mchou: | riksta: http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx . . . ;GroupID=529 |
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| [03:06:00] | mchou: | looks nice. |
| [03:06:00] | itsame: | i've tried the extra audio buffering etc..to no aval :( |
| [03:07:00] | itsame: | any ideas? |
| [03:07:00] | itsame: | using 2.6.9 ...this is a install based off knoppmyth |
| [03:07:00] | riksta: | cool |
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| [03:08:00] | mchou: | god, VAT is 5#???? |
| [03:08:00] | mchou: | wtf?? |
| [03:08:00] | riksta: | 17.5% |
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| [03:09:00] | mchou: | shit, remind me not to buy any crap from UK. |
| [03:09:00] | riksta: | thing is, this mobo is great it has like 2 on board lan sockets, 6 usb ports, etc etc |
| [03:09:00] | riksta: | the one i have |
| [03:09:00] | mchou: | I know I'm exempt, but jesus. |
| [03:09:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | well, the show I thought it had wrong, it had exact. :( gotta find another test case. |
| [03:09:00] | xris: | :( |
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| [03:10:00] | riksta: | try paying VAT on a car :( |
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| [03:10:00] | riksta: | shitload of money |
| [03:11:00] | mchou: | it's a wonder that there is such a thing as the economy in the UK :) |
| [03:11:00] | mchou: | at those rates I just wouldnt buy anything :) |
| [03:11:00] | riksta: | we get ripped off for everything |
| [03:11:00] | mchou: | I'd just barter :) |
| [03:12:00] | spader3d: | hi all |
| [03:12:00] | spader3d: | how do i get a command window with mythtv? |
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| [03:12:00] | riksta: | alt+tab? :) |
| [03:12:00] | mchou: | riksta: I dont get it. I've met brits on my travels. They dont shop here :) |
| [03:13:00] | riksta: | mchou: :) |
| [03:13:00] | mchou: | I'mean if I were a brit, and I'm out of the country, I'd buy everything in sight. |
| [03:13:00] | riksta: | dude |
| [03:13:00] | riksta: | it costs us so much money to fly over, we got none left ;) |
| [03:13:00] | spader3d: | thx |
| [03:13:00] | mchou: | hehe. |
| [03:14:00] | mchou: | gotta pay VAT on airfare too??? |
| [03:15:00] | mchou: | 5# is over US$10. |
| [03:16:00] | mchou: | $10 on a $60 mobo, no way :) |
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| [03:17:00] | mchou: | riksta: ya really should have bartered with me when you had the chance :) |
| [03:17:00] | riksta: | lol oh well |
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| [03:17:00] | riksta: | vat on everythin |
| [03:18:00] | riksta: | i wouldn't mind, but they don't even spend our taxes well at all |
| [03:18:00] | riksta: | they waste it all |
| [03:19:00] | mchou: | riksta: are there other forms of personal tax in UK? property, income, etc? |
| [03:19:00] | riksta: | they spent like £758m on a millenium dome |
| [03:19:00] | riksta: | which they closed a few years later |
| [03:19:00] | riksta: | income tax and national insurance too |
| [03:20:00] | riksta: | i get paid £1200 |
| [03:20:00] | mchou: | I mean if the only tax you pay is VAT, maybe that's not so bad. |
| [03:20:00] | riksta: | and i come home with £85 |
| [03:20:00] | riksta: | and i come home with £850 |
| [03:21:00] | riksta: | and then we pay extra tax on stuff like alcohol and tobacco etc |
| [03:21:00] | riksta: | it's about £3 a pint anywhere in manchester |
| [03:21:00] | mchou: | yeah, that I understand. |
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| [03:22:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mchou: if you find a show that's bad, can you turn on the strict/aggressive detection and reflag and see if it gets any better? |
| [03:22:00] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: hmm?? for playback or for recording? |
| [03:22:00] | mchou: | ok, gotcha. run mythflag manually. |
| [03:23:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah. |
| [03:23:00] | mchou: | that's mythcommflag --force, right? |
| [03:23:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I want to see if aggressive makes a difference for you. I always run with that on since I use M179 cards and my blacks are usully very black. |
| [03:24:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | no, --force just says flag this even if the DB thinks it is currently being flagged elsewhere. |
| [03:24:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | just use the -c and -s args with the chanid and starttime (in YYYYMMDDHHMMSS format) and that's it. |
| [03:24:00] | mchou: | even if it's been flagged? |
| [03:25:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah |
| [03:25:00] | mchou: | ok. |
| [03:25:00] | riksta: | sheesh. |
| [03:25:00] | riksta: | kids. |
| [03:25:00] | riksta: | :P |
| [03:25:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | the --force just overrides the commflagged field in the recorded table. mythcommflag won't run if that field says the recording is being flagged somewhere else right then. |
| [03:25:00] | mchou: | rght. |
| [03:25:00] | mchou: | right* |
| [03:26:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | sometimes you need --force if mythcommflag was killed during flagging or something where it didn't reset the commflagged field to say it was done. |
| [03:26:00] | mchou: | yeah. |
| [03:27:00] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: you use the tuner on m179 at all? or you use svid? |
| [03:27:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | tuners |
| [03:27:00] | mchou: | tuner are very crappy on m179. |
| [03:27:00] | riksta: | m179?: |
| [03:27:00] | mchou: | my bttv has better tuners, lol. |
| [03:28:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | have to reboot the box occasionally because it's like they build up static or something, but that's only every few weeks usually. they are very sensitive to noise. I had them in a case with a crappy power supply and their signals were terrible. I have them in a nice quiet IBM now and they work great. I'm still running ivtv from the end of 1993 though, so it could be the driver version. :) |
| [03:28:00] | mchou: | I feel like doing a field replacement of tuners from my bttv cards to m179 card :) |
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| [03:28:00] | mchou: | 1993!!?? |
| [03:28:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | 2003. :)sorry |
| [03:29:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I'm stuck in the 90's |
| [03:29:00] | riksta: | LOL |
| [03:29:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, 0.000000001 version |
| [03:29:00] | mchou: | that's almost b4 linux :) |
| [03:30:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, almost. |
| [03:30:00] | mini-morfic: | anyone else see the previews in media library to show in "false colors" ie inverted in .18? |
| [03:33:00] | littlewashu: | Could anyone tell me how to start the mysql server? it's crazy when i reinstalled the old command didn't work and now mythtv is getting fussie |
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| [03:34:00] | mini-morfic: | littlewashu: /etc/init.d/mysqld start or /etc/init.d/mysql start ? |
| [03:35:00] | littlewashu: | that's what it used to be, but now..... |
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| [03:35:00] | littlewashu: | I think I must have mucked up the install |
| [03:35:00] | EmergeTW: | Failed to connect to database: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' |
| [03:36:00] | EmergeTW: | any ideas? |
| [03:36:00] | EmergeTW: | this is after I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force mythtv-database, and set it to root and an empty password |
| [03:37:00] | riksta: | password is obviously wrong |
| [03:37:00] | Cromz: | could be password, or the database isn't allowing the localhost to conenct. :/ |
| [03:38:00] | riksta: | EmergeTW: can you connect to the db manually, mysql – uroot -p |
| [03:39:00] | EmergeTW: | riksta: that worked fine |
| [03:39:00] | riksta: | with a password? |
| [03:39:00] | EmergeTW: | riksta: prompted me for a password, I just hit enter |
| [03:39:00] | riksta: | hm |
| [03:40:00] | EmergeTW: | Failed to connect to database: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES) at -e line 5, <> line 1. |
| [03:40:00] | EmergeTW: | actually, that is the whole line |
| [03:41:00] | riksta: | i'd just set a password |
| [03:41:00] | riksta: | and put that in |
| [03:41:00] | EmergeTW: | how do I do that? |
| [03:41:00] | riksta: | with mysqladmin |
| [03:42:00] | concept10: | does anyone know any links for linux led drivers? |
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| [03:43:00] | EmergeTW: | riksta: perfect :) |
| [03:43:00] | EmergeTW: | riksta: thanks |
| [03:44:00] | riksta: | k |
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| [03:45:00] | concept10: | anyone know any good links for linux led drivers? |
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| [03:49:00] | Cromz: | concept10: hmm infra-red drivers? www.irblaster.info |
| [03:49:00] | Cromz: | concept10: er.. that's not the drivers.. heh www.lirc.org |
| [03:49:00] | concept10: | Cromz: Thanks for the link, but im looking to drive a old dvd player LED display |
| [03:50:00] | Cromz: | hmm oh. |
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| [03:51:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | dohhh, found a bug in comm flagging that went in to CVS on the 16th |
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| [03:55:00] | EmergeTW: | Anyone here using a Winpvr-350? |
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| [04:02:00] | b_a_t_o_u_sa: | Hey everyone. |
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| [04:12:00] | oneo: | hey guys – anyone been having trouble with mythfilldatabase? ive ran it like 5 times and it literally stored 5 shows on random days... |
| [04:13:00] | oneo: | i.e. it didnt grab an entire days worth of shows, it just grabbed seemingly random showws |
| [04:13:00] | EmergeTW: | My capture card isnt showing up in Video Device section in the Capture card setup menu |
| [04:14:00] | EmergeTW: | any ideas? |
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| [04:17:00] | GotD0t: | what do you guys think of this http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_MII_s . . . rboardId=202 as a client |
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| [04:19:00] | Igg-man: | If I get studdered audio, is there anything I can change to fix it? |
| [04:19:00] | Igg-man: | It seems to be in the recording from what I can tell |
| [04:20:00] | EmergeTW: | Anyone know if there is a package for IVTV? |
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| [04:23:00] | GotD0t: | EmergeTW: one way to find out |
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| [04:24:00] | EmergeTW: | GotD0t: heh, tried apt-cache search ivtv and didnt come up with anything |
| [04:24:00] | ** EmergeTW misses gentoo ** | |
| [04:24:00] | GotD0t: | hehe |
| [04:24:00] | GotD0t: | EmergeTW: if you're only going to be running mythtv on that box and you want to use debian i would greatly suggest knoppmyth |
| [04:25:00] | EmergeTW: | GotD0t: yeah I may just try that for now |
| [04:25:00] | GotD0t: | EmergeTW: i use it and its great |
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| [04:26:00] | GotD0t: | EmergeTW: and gentoo on my main machines.... |
| [04:27:00] | EmergeTW: | every time I try to give debian based stuff( ubuntu ) another shot I remember why I switched to gentoo in the first place |
| [04:28:00] | GotD0t: | why? because when you do apt-cache search it gives you results for anything that has the some of the same letters that were in your search term? |
| [04:29:00] | GotD0t: | hehe |
| [04:29:00] | GotD0t: | not to bash debian or anything... but thats annoying |
| [04:29:00] | GotD0t: | dont you agree EmergeTW |
| [04:29:00] | Beirdo: | learn to use | grep |
| [04:30:00] | GotD0t: | Beirdo: the point is... i *SHOULDNT* have to |
| [04:30:00] | GotD0t: | Beirdo: its not apt-cache dump... its apt-cache search |
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| [04:37:00] | Cromz: | hmm interesting, no edit mode. well it pauses like it should but no osd. and no browse mode while watching live tv.. can anyone point me in the right direction on my fubar? heh I'll go find out.. but I have no clue as to what to even look for. ( yet ) |
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| [04:39:00] | mchou: | hey Beirdo, do you happen to know if stock WRT54G(/S) DHCP can assign static IPs based on MAC address? |
| [04:40:00] | Beirdo: | not sure |
| [04:40:00] | Beirdo: | I blew it away real fast witn openwrt |
| [04:40:00] | mchou: | the belkin can't :( |
| [04:40:00] | mchou: | does openwrt have that functionality? |
| [04:41:00] | mchou: | belkin ain't a "full featured" router, sigh. |
| [04:41:00] | Beirdo: | I think it might. I don't do DHCP on mine, but I think they may have a stripped down version of ISC DHCPd |
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| [04:41:00] | Beirdo: | go to #wrt54g and ask maybe |
| [04:41:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: all right. |
| [04:41:00] | Beirdo: | they can tell you about the openwrt support for sure |
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| [04:42:00] | mchou: | wish the damn reviewers would be a bit more thorough regarding router functionality, sigh. |
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| [04:51:00] | EmergeTW: | GotD0t: what card are you using? |
| [04:51:00] | GotD0t: | EmergeTW: pvr-250 |
| [04:52:00] | EmergeTW: | GotD0t: :) |
| [04:52:00] | GotD0t: | ? |
| [04:52:00] | EmergeTW: | GotD0t: did your remote work by default? |
| [04:52:00] | GotD0t: | what remote? |
| [04:52:00] | EmergeTW: | GotD0t: does the 250 not come with a remote? |
| [04:53:00] | GotD0t: | mine didnt |
| [04:53:00] | EmergeTW: | GotD0t: I thought both the 250 and 350 did |
| [04:53:00] | GotD0t: | some do i believe |
| [04:54:00] | EmergeTW: | GotD0t: oh |
| [04:56:00] | EmergeTW: | are the downloads speeds for datadirect slow for anyone else? |
| [04:57:00] | GotD0t: | everyone else |
| [04:57:00] | GotD0t: | hehe |
| [04:58:00] | EmergeTW: | hah |
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| [05:07:00] | EmergeTW: | woa, TV is reallllly staticy |
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| [05:08:00] | EmergeTW: | something isnt right |
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| [05:15:00] | BreezBl0k: | any one using 0.18? |
| [05:16:00] | Cromz: | trying to lol |
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| [05:16:00] | marmoset: | EmergeTW: I blame gentoo |
| [05:16:00] | marmoset: | ;) |
| [05:17:00] | BreezBl0k: | <Cromz> TV is working fine onit? |
| [05:17:00] | Cromz: | BreezBl0k: ya |
| [05:17:00] | BreezBl0k: | hmm |
| [05:17:00] | BreezBl0k: | does TV display in a window? |
| [05:17:00] | Cromz: | BreezBl0k: I got everything cept a few things to work. |
| [05:17:00] | Cromz: | nope |
| [05:17:00] | BreezBl0k: | cromz what distro you using? |
| [05:18:00] | Cromz: | BreezBl0k: FC3_64 |
| [05:18:00] | BreezBl0k: | ooo |
| [05:18:00] | BreezBl0k: | :) |
| [05:18:00] | itsame: | hey...is there a way in the new mythplugins for 0.18 to CPU optimize the compile? |
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| [05:18:00] | itsame: | don't see the option in the /configure |
| [05:18:00] | itsame: | and looks like it's defaulting to march of pentiumpro |
| [05:18:00] | BreezBl0k: | im using gentoo and 0.18 has decided to be a pian |
| [05:19:00] | BreezBl0k: | *pain |
| [05:19:00] | itsame: | for pcc |
| [05:19:00] | itsame: | gcc |
| [05:19:00] | Cromz: | itsame: settings.pro edit that, I think that's where it is. |
| [05:19:00] | itsame: | ok |
| [05:19:00] | itsame: | so like the old way ;) |
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| [05:20:00] | BreezBl0k: | Cromz what WM you using? |
| [05:21:00] | BreezBl0k: | im clutching at straws right now |
| [05:21:00] | Cromz: | default fc3, bluecruve a form of gnome. |
| [05:21:00] | Cromz: | think that's what they called it |
| [05:21:00] | Cromz: | er bluecurve |
| [05:24:00] | BreezBl0k: | im wondering if its an issue with fvwm |
| [05:24:00] | BreezBl0k: | but seems to point to mythtv its self |
| [05:25:00] | BreezBl0k: | because if i set the options for it to do full screen instead of a window it does but soon as i go on tv it reverts back |
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| [05:45:00] | carl: | just configured mythtv and my video is freezing with a pvr250 tuner and an MX440 video card. |
| [05:46:00] | carl: | it briefly plays and freezes |
| [05:47:00] | carl: | any thoughts? |
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| [05:48:00] | BreezBl0k: | <carl> hard drive dma on? |
| [05:49:00] | carl: | hmm? lemme check.. |
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| [05:59:00] | carl: | BreezBl0k: My setting is DMA: *udma5 |
| [05:59:00] | BreezBl0k: | hdparm -d /dev/hda |
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| [06:01:00] | carl: | /dev/hda: using_dma = 1 (on) |
| [06:01:00] | carl: | :) |
| [06:01:00] | BreezBl0k: | :) |
| [06:02:00] | BreezBl0k: | hmm not sure |
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| [06:03:00] | carl: | live tv just froze again. was a reboot necessary? |
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| [06:08:00] | BreezBl0k: | <carl> could you ctrl alt backspace out it? |
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| [06:15:00] | carl: | yea.. It just kicks out on it own to the main menu |
| [06:16:00] | carl: | i hear the tv briefly and it freezes in a sec. |
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| [06:16:00] | carl: | i did use the nvidia glx package.. would that effect it? |
| [06:17:00] | BreezBl0k: | im using that |
| [06:17:00] | BreezBl0k: | what distro you using? |
| [06:17:00] | carl: | ubuntu |
| [06:17:00] | carl: | had it working in a mock up last week w/o freezing. |
| [06:17:00] | carl: | i added another pvr250 |
| [06:18:00] | carl: | so now.. it's dual tuner |
| [06:19:00] | carl: | would that cause this prob? |
| [06:20:00] | BreezBl0k: | possibly |
| [06:20:00] | BreezBl0k: | have you tried suid mythtv? |
| [06:23:00] | carl: | i'm using the mythtv user when it starts |
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| [06:25:00] | carl: | using the lastest stable ivtv driver |
| [06:26:00] | oneo: | hey guys – anyone been having trouble with mythfilldatabase? ive ran it like 5 times and it literally stored 5 shows on random days... |
| [06:26:00] | oneo: | i.e. it didnt grab an entire days worth of shows, it just grabbed seemingly random showws |
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| [06:53:00] | carl: | ok.. i've put in two weeks learning linux and myth from scratch.. i have the tv-out working <very cool>, sound, working mysql database <ugh> and my only problem is the video freezes a few seconds into live tv. |
| [06:54:00] | carl: | dual pvr250 tuners & an MXX440 graphics card |
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| [06:55:00] | carl: | dma is ON |
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| [07:28:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys – to update from 0.17 to 0.18 can i just dist-upgrade? or are the packages not on at rpms yet/ |
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| [07:37:00] | mchou: | defaultro: you around? |
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| [07:41:00] | riksta: | mchouhoooo |
| [07:41:00] | riksta: | yoooouuhoooo |
| [07:41:00] | mchou: | whats up? |
| [07:42:00] | riksta: | nothing |
| [07:42:00] | riksta: | i was just being daft |
| [07:42:00] | mchou: | thought you fixed the mobo man :) |
| [07:42:00] | riksta: | fat chance |
| [07:43:00] | riksta: | i need a soldering iron and a new chipset :) |
| [07:43:00] | riksta: | shaun of the dead is hilarious |
| [07:43:00] | mchou: | any vat on ebay? |
| [07:43:00] | riksta: | VAT everywhere dude |
| [07:43:00] | mchou: | even on ebay??? |
| [07:43:00] | riksta: | ya |
| [07:43:00] | mchou: | that sux. |
| [07:43:00] | riksta: | well |
| [07:44:00] | riksta: | everything is just priced like it has vat |
| [07:44:00] | riksta: | i suppose not on second hand shit |
| [07:44:00] | riksta: | but new stuff sold by companies yeah |
| [07:44:00] | riksta: | if you are a company |
| [07:44:00] | mchou: | well, that's what I'm talking about. |
| [07:44:00] | riksta: | and you buy stuff thru the company, you get to claim the VAT back at the end of the year |
| [07:44:00] | mchou: | get a 2nd hand mobo. |
| [07:44:00] | riksta: | nah man, ill just get a new one i dont care about VAT, we jus accept it :) |
| [07:44:00] | mchou: | that would work quite well, I'd think. |
| [07:45:00] | riksta: | yeah, there are certain conditions to being able to claim the VAT back i think |
| [07:45:00] | mchou: | screw that. Those mobo are $45 here. That translates to maybe 23# in UK. |
| [07:45:00] | riksta: | yeah, piss take |
| [07:46:00] | riksta: | slap on an extra tenner for the dumb uk peeps |
| [07:46:00] | riksta: | that's because we sit back and take it |
| [07:46:00] | mchou: | uhuh..... |
| [07:46:00] | riksta: | my buddy in PA |
| [07:46:00] | riksta: | he's like |
| [07:46:00] | mchou: | you offer up yer rear ends :) |
| [07:46:00] | riksta: | fuck, i'd be outside parliament waving my guns :) |
| [07:47:00] | riksta: | cept we don't have guns :P |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | PA??? |
| [07:47:00] | riksta: | pensyilvania |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | what's that? |
| [07:47:00] | riksta: | or however you spell |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | oh, you mean stateside :) |
| [07:47:00] | riksta: | ya, sorry forgot you were ca |
| [07:48:00] | mchou: | you guys get House M.D. over there by any chance? |
| [07:48:00] | mchou: | the show. |
| [07:49:00] | riksta: | whats MD |
| [07:49:00] | mchou: | medical doctor |
| [07:49:00] | riksta: | nearly every damn program on daytime tv here seems to be a house diy program atm |
| [07:49:00] | riksta: | nah we don't get that one |
| [07:49:00] | riksta: | kinda aa stupid name |
| [07:49:00] | riksta: | wtf does medical have to do with it :) |
| [07:49:00] | riksta: | maybe house doctor |
| [07:49:00] | mchou: | riksta: http://imdb.com/title/tt0412142/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZ . . . _;fc=1;ft=21 |
| [07:50:00] | mchou: | Hugh Laurie :) |
| [07:50:00] | mchou: | a brit :) |
| [07:50:00] | mchou: | playing an american. |
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| [07:53:00] | rikstahh: | bloody dsl, what was the last msg you got |
| [07:53:00] | rikstahh: | oh i see now about house md |
| [07:53:00] | rikstahh: | we don't have that |
| [07:53:00] | mchou: | [23:49:52] <mchou> riksta: http://imdb.com/title/tt0412142/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZ . . . 21[23:50:03] <mchou> Hugh Laurie :) ~ [23:50:21] <mchou> a brit :) ~ [23:50:31] <mchou> playing an american. |
| [07:54:00] | rikstahh: | yeah i recognise him |
| [07:54:00] | mchou: | great show. |
| [07:54:00] | rikstahh: | :) |
| [07:56:00] | rikstahh: | do you have |
| [07:56:00] | rikstahh: | derren brown |
| [07:56:00] | rikstahh: | i've missed the recordings of the past two episodes ...am gutted! |
| [07:57:00] | mchou: | no, never heard of it. |
| [07:57:00] | rikstahh: | he's like this psychological illusionist |
| [07:57:00] | rikstahh: | he does some freaky stuff |
| [07:57:00] | mchou: | a magician? |
| [07:57:00] | rikstahh: | kinda |
| [07:57:00] | rikstahh: | but better |
| [07:59:00] | rikstahh: | i've decided....i'm off to get that new mobo when the shop opens |
| [07:59:00] | mchou: | this guy: http://imdb.com/name/nm1494925/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZn . . . 6;ft=20;fm=1 |
| [07:59:00] | rikstahh: | thats him |
| [07:59:00] | mchou: | lol, took you long enough. |
| [07:59:00] | mchou: | you know however, there is a better plan...... |
| [08:00:00] | rikstahh: | yeah but it just pisses me off that i should have to get a new mobo |
| [08:00:00] | rikstahh: | ya know what i mean? |
| [08:00:00] | mchou: | and that to continue to use that mobo with pvr-150 instead :) |
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| [08:00:00] | rikstahh: | what, and then have ivtv issues? :) |
| [08:01:00] | mchou: | $65, probably set you back 45# over there..... |
| [08:01:00] | rikstahh: | Compro VideoMate TV PVR Card with FM Radio & Remote |
| [08:01:00] | mchou: | or get a pvr-250...... |
| [08:01:00] | rikstahh: | £24 :) |
| [08:01:00] | mchou: | that's not a HW encoder. |
| [08:01:00] | rikstahh: | dude i have a DVB-T card, i just cant use the bastard thing because the antenna is too weak |
| [08:01:00] | rikstahh: | i know its not h/w |
| [08:01:00] | mchou: | that be the same as bttv, same troubles. |
| [08:01:00] | rikstahh: | ah |
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| [08:02:00] | rikstahh: | £54 for pvr-150 at microdirect |
| [08:02:00] | rikstahh: | baaaaah |
| [08:02:00] | rikstahh: | rip off |
| [08:02:00] | mchou: | I dont get it, y not get a new antenna? |
| [08:02:00] | rikstahh: | i live in student accommodation |
| [08:02:00] | rikstahh: | i've been begging them to fix it all year |
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| [08:02:00] | mchou: | how far away are you from tv towers? |
| [08:02:00] | mchou: | get an indoor antenna. |
| [08:03:00] | rikstahh: | i tried |
| [08:03:00] | mchou: | and? |
| [08:03:00] | rikstahh: | aint strong enough |
| [08:03:00] | rikstahh: | even with expensive booster |
| [08:03:00] | mchou: | which one did you try? |
| [08:03:00] | mchou: | get the silver sensor. |
| [08:03:00] | rikstahh: | i got a proper roof antenna |
| [08:03:00] | rikstahh: | and plugged it into a £25 digital booster |
| [08:03:00] | rikstahh: | and had it out of the window |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | really?? abd that didnt work? |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | and* |
| [08:04:00] | rikstahh: | no |
| [08:04:00] | rikstahh: | i lvie in the city |
| [08:04:00] | rikstahh: | too many tower blocks in the way |
| [08:04:00] | rikstahh: | basically |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | multipath? |
| [08:04:00] | rikstahh: | they just need a new antenna on the roof |
| [08:04:00] | rikstahh: | and it would solve all my worries |
| [08:04:00] | rikstahh: | tbh |
| [08:04:00] | rikstahh: | i have like 3 other boxes in the hall |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | which floow you live on? |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | floor* |
| [08:04:00] | rikstahh: | i really could just put the fuckin thing into another box |
| [08:04:00] | rikstahh: | and run the backend off that |
| [08:04:00] | rikstahh: | 2nd floor |
| [08:05:00] | mchou: | why dont put that antenna on roof? |
| [08:05:00] | rikstahh: | i cant get to it |
| [08:05:00] | rikstahh: | plus |
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| [08:05:00] | rikstahh: | its probably down to the fact that the signal is split for about 150 rooms |
| [08:05:00] | mchou: | ask the landlord to do it..... |
| [08:05:00] | rikstahh: | mate |
| [08:06:00] | rikstahh: | ive been asking for about 9 months |
| [08:06:00] | mchou: | with your antenna?? I doubt that :) |
| [08:06:00] | rikstahh: | i'm withholding my rent :P |
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| [08:07:00] | mchou: | ust ask landlord to put YOUR antenna up...... |
| [08:07:00] | mchou: | just* |
| [08:07:00] | mchou: | as a sign of "ggod will" |
| [08:07:00] | mchou: | good* |
| [08:07:00] | rikstahh: | it's not just that that is the problem, as i said |
| [08:07:00] | rikstahh: | they will need some expensive kit to split it properly |
| [08:07:00] | rikstahh: | for all the bedrooms |
| [08:08:00] | rikstahh: | about 200 or so |
| [08:08:00] | mchou: | tell him you dont want to share :) |
| [08:08:00] | mchou: | exclusively yours :) |
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| [08:08:00] | mchou: | 200 antenna splits is a lot of signal loss :) |
| [08:08:00] | rikstahh: | well |
| [08:09:00] | rikstahh: | i lived in a block of 1000 last year |
| [08:09:00] | rikstahh: | and it was perfect |
| [08:09:00] | rikstahh: | i got all my dvt chans |
| [08:09:00] | rikstahh: | dvb |
| [08:09:00] | rikstahh: | and it was split that many |
| [08:09:00] | rikstahh: | with a proper booster and antenna |
| [08:09:00] | mchou: | you sure that's not cable? |
| [08:09:00] | rikstahh: | they are the same company landlords too |
| [08:09:00] | rikstahh: | they are just being pricks |
| [08:09:00] | rikstahh: | i am sure, it was dvb-t man |
| [08:09:00] | mchou: | weird. |
| [08:10:00] | mchou: | didnt know you could split antenna 1000x |
| [08:10:00] | rikstahh: | like i said |
| [08:10:00] | mchou: | that's got to be expensive. |
| [08:10:00] | rikstahh: | you have to buy a piece of kit that amplifies it when it splits |
| [08:10:00] | rikstahh: | or something |
| [08:10:00] | rikstahh: | about £400 apparently |
| [08:10:00] | rikstahh: | hey listen |
| [08:10:00] | rikstahh: | in my hall, outside my bedroom |
| [08:10:00] | rikstahh: | i have two other servers |
| [08:11:00] | mchou: | even an amplifier wouldnt work all that well. |
| [08:11:00] | rikstahh: | i just checked if the antenna cable would reach , and it does |
| [08:11:00] | rikstahh: | so imma just move the bt848 card into my P4 dell box |
| [08:11:00] | rikstahh: | and be done with it |
| [08:11:00] | rikstahh: | ahhhh |
| [08:11:00] | rikstahh: | but shit |
| [08:11:00] | mchou: | exactly. |
| [08:11:00] | rikstahh: | you need X |
| [08:11:00] | rikstahh: | argh |
| [08:11:00] | mchou: | give it a shot. |
| [08:11:00] | mchou: | you dont need x. strictly backend. |
| [08:11:00] | rikstahh: | i don't wanna have to put x on my damn server |
| [08:12:00] | rikstahh: | oh |
| [08:12:00] | rikstahh: | how do i do the setup then |
| [08:12:00] | mchou: | forward over ssh :) |
| [08:12:00] | mchou: | X forwarding. |
| [08:12:00] | rikstahh: | still needs x server |
| [08:12:00] | rikstahh: | no? |
| [08:13:00] | mchou: | you need install some X libs..... |
| [08:13:00] | mchou: | but that's it. |
| [08:13:00] | mchou: | no need to have the whole shebang. |
| [08:13:00] | rikstahh: | it wants to install xorg |
| [08:13:00] | mchou: | what wants to install xorg? |
| [08:13:00] | rikstahh: | the ebuild (with -X useflag) |
| [08:14:00] | mchou: | screw the ebuild then. |
| [08:14:00] | rikstahh: | true |
| [08:14:00] | rikstahh: | man |
| [08:14:00] | mchou: | compile from mythtv source. |
| [08:14:00] | rikstahh: | seems like a lot of fuckin hassle again |
| [08:14:00] | mchou: | lol, you just like to whine. |
| [08:14:00] | rikstahh: | :P |
| [08:14:00] | mchou: | bwaaa....bwaaaa |
| [08:15:00] | mchou: | anyway, gentoo are for pansies. |
| [08:15:00] | rikstahh: | ::P |
| [08:15:00] | rikstahh: | gentoo IS for.. |
| [08:15:00] | mchou: | well, whatever. |
| [08:16:00] | mchou: | too late for me over here to keep my grammar straight. |
| [08:16:00] | mchou: | that wireless router I bought today doesnt suit my needs..... |
| [08:17:00] | rikstahh: | what did you get |
| [08:17:00] | mchou: | which is just too bad, considering it was only $10. |
| [08:17:00] | rikstahh: | you shud get that wrt linksys |
| [08:17:00] | rikstahh: | you can make your own firmware then |
| [08:17:00] | mchou: | belkin wireless 54g router. |
| [08:17:00] | rikstahh: | those are a piece of shit, my mate has one |
| [08:18:00] | mchou: | belkin in theory is hackable. |
| [08:18:00] | rikstahh: | range is so poor, and the firmware, it takes about ten years just to store the data, and crashes a lot |
| [08:18:00] | rikstahh: | :) |
| [08:18:00] | mchou: | pretty much same design as as wrt linksys. Same chipset. |
| [08:19:00] | mchou: | range isn't a big concern for me. Only need it inside my house. |
| [08:19:00] | rikstahh: | the wrt aren't too expensive...i don't think |
| [08:19:00] | mchou: | 34 vs. 10. you do the math. |
| [08:19:00] | rikstahh: | inside my flat, the wrt didn't even get through 2 walls |
| [08:19:00] | rikstahh: | $10 for a belkin wireless how? |
| [08:19:00] | mchou: | after rebates. |
| [08:19:00] | mchou: | AC adapter costs more than that :) |
| [08:20:00] | rikstahh: | how can they possibly make money |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | cause most ppl dont bother with rebates. |
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| [08:20:00] | mchou: | normal price $60. |
| [08:21:00] | mchou: | probably costs around $5 for them each to make :) |
| [08:21:00] | rikstahh: | true, gotta love the harmony of slave labour and mass production |
| [08:22:00] | mchou: | I'm gonna solder on a biiger flash chip on it. :) |
| [08:22:00] | mchou: | bigger* |
| [08:22:00] | Agrajag-: | does anyone else get worried when they see cvs commit messages like that recent sleep other day one?? :P |
| [08:22:00] | mchou: | bring it up to 8Mb. |
| [08:23:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: link pls? |
| [08:23:00] | Agrajag-: | oh i just got it in the commits list email |
| [08:23:00] | Agrajag-: | Patch by Robert Tsai to correct the original patch of his that I broken when |
| [08:23:00] | Agrajag-: | applying the other day when I was way to sleepy to be applying a patch the |
| [08:23:00] | Agrajag-: | other day that he submitted then on the mailing list the other day. |
| [08:23:00] | Agrajag-: | heh |
| [08:23:00] | mchou: | who is that from, ijr? |
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| [08:25:00] | Agrajag-: | cpinkham |
| [08:25:00] | mchou: | hehe. |
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| [08:50:00] | ba_ttou_sa: | If I want a HTPC (dedicated), and another computer dual monitor setup via a dual monitor KVM. Do you know of a way to watch tv using the HTPC computer? |
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| [09:25:00] | mchou: | ba_ttou_sa: dont understand your question. why not just use myth for that? |
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| [09:26:00] | ba_ttou_sa: | I want a dual monitor setup. But with one of those monitors, I want to be able to view tv on almost always (via the HTPC), but when using the other computer, I would like to have that as an extra monitor. This is done using a KVM. Any ideas? |
| [09:28:00] | mchou: | why not run mythbackend on the HTPC and run mythfrontend on the other computer?? I dont get it. |
| [09:28:00] | mchou: | you can also run mythfrontend on the HTPC too (when you want to watch there) |
| [09:29:00] | mchou: | and what the hell does KVM have to do with any of this?? |
| [09:30:00] | mchou: | you can run mythfrontend from any computer and talk to a remote backend. |
| [09:31:00] | mchou: | meaning you can watch from anywher. |
| [09:31:00] | mchou: | anywhere* |
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| [09:34:00] | ba_ttou_sa: | mchou thanks. Hey... I'm new to myth, I just managed to set it up yesterday. ;) |
| [09:34:00] | mchou: | good. |
| [09:34:00] | mchou: | then you know what I'm talking about. |
| [09:34:00] | ba_ttou_sa: | I can't find much information about installing on 64-bit gentoo. |
| [09:35:00] | ba_ttou_sa: | Yes, I kind of understand. :) I don't know why I didn't think of that. Thanks. |
| [09:35:00] | mchou: | lol. proceed at your own risk. |
| [09:35:00] | ba_ttou_sa: | That was mean. :( |
| [09:35:00] | ba_ttou_sa: | I think I may wait for that for more stability. |
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| [12:00:00] | snakeman_: | ok guys I have some html code that will allow streaming via http, but i need someone to implement it into mythweb during the video management phase |
| [12:00:00] | snakeman_: | can anyone in here help |
| [12:01:00] | snakeman_: | streaming video divx or xvid or enen nero digital |
| [12:01:00] | snakeman_: | ok |
| [12:01:00] | snakeman_: | wow thanks |
| [12:03:00] | fatmatt: | I thought there was already a mythtv streaming thing... |
| [12:04:00] | fatmatt: | snakeman_: maybe try #mythtv this is the users chan, developers hang out there |
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| [12:17:00] | snakeman_: | looks like they aren't interested either thanks guys |
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| [13:47:00] | GotD0t: | what do you guys think of the VIA EPIA MII http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_MII_s . . . rboardId=202 as a possible mythtv frontend |
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| [14:11:00] | EmergeTW: | anyone up? |
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| [14:16:00] | GotD0t: | sure am EmergeTW.... but im just leaving for class |
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| [14:19:00] | EmergeTW: | darn |
| [14:22:00] | Cromz: | what thought I wouldn't come back? |
| [14:22:00] | Cromz: | :> |
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| [14:30:00] | EmergeTW: | When I try to watch tv it is VERY staticy |
| [14:30:00] | EmergeTW: | any suggestions? |
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| [15:55:00] | helo: | there is no mention in the mythtv docs of how to get a username/password to pull the xmltv data... |
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| [16:00:00] | ZMorek: | use your webbrowser to get to the zap2it.com website |
| [16:01:00] | ZMorek: | sign up, answer the questionaire, give it some info and it'll get your cable info |
| [16:01:00] | CyberKnet: | http://labs.zap2it.com, even |
| [16:01:00] | ZMorek: | you can then use that login/pass in mythtv to download the tv schedules |
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| [16:03:00] | CyberKnet: | The man is correct. |
| [16:03:00] | ZMorek: | it is actually in the mythtv doc |
| [16:03:00] | ZMorek: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.4 |
| [16:05:00] | ZMorek: | I've personally been having tons of problems in getting my pvr going... it's been a painful process as all my computer experience is windows based |
| [16:05:00] | blue_dolphin: | hello I was having a couple of issues with mythtv. Im on a Ubuntu system and succesfully set up mythtv 2 days ago (ie got signal and sound) however yesterday I get no signal in mythtv nor tvtime which was also working fine before. Also it doesn't seem that the up/down keys actually change the channel even when it worked. So too describe this issue when you first go to watching live tv I see this in white 1:Television if I hi |
| [16:05:00] | blue_dolphin: | t the up down key a big blue number appears as does the channel name and description in a box below but the actual channel did not appear to change. What am I missing here? |
| [16:05:00] | ZMorek: | I followed the wilsonet guide |
| [16:05:00] | blue_dolphin: | sorry for the long post |
| [16:06:00] | CyberKnet: | ZMorek: Jarod Wilson's guide is exceptionally good... probably the best documented install guide I know of. |
| [16:07:00] | ZMorek: | CyberKnet: His guide is very in depth, I just found some issues with the packages at atrpms |
| [16:07:00] | CyberKnet: | ZMorek: unfortunately that does happen from time to time... and it can make things very painful. |
| [16:08:00] | ZMorek: | CyberKnet: YOU'RE TELLING ME! :-P |
| [16:08:00] | CyberKnet: | ZMorek: nice to see that you read the README though... you're already ten steps ahead of most users =) |
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| [16:08:00] | helo: | i can't exit mythtv... i press escape and it asks me if i want to quit, but i can't select either yes or no |
| [16:09:00] | CyberKnet: | helo: push the up or down keys to hilight a response, then press Enter |
| [16:10:00] | CyberKnet: | don't try to click with a mouse. |
| [16:10:00] | ZMorek: | CyberKnet: I had the problem before too, but pressing enter wouldn't do it, I could only manage to exit using my mouse.... |
| [16:11:00] | helo: | it doesn't work pressing enter. |
| [16:11:00] | ZMorek: | CyberKnet: Albeit I was doing it kind of blind without a cursor |
| [16:11:00] | CyberKnet: | hmm... never had that problem. I use an IR keyboard and it works fine. |
| [16:11:00] | CyberKnet: | oh |
| [16:11:00] | ZMorek: | I think it might be because of the walmart keyboard I bought |
| [16:11:00] | CyberKnet: | I think there may be a bug where you need to press ctrl-enter perhaps? |
| [16:11:00] | helo: | i'm using a ps/2 keyboard... obsolete hardware problem? :) |
| [16:11:00] | helo: | i have a dell keyboard |
| [16:11:00] | CyberKnet: | helo: try ctrl-enter |
| [16:11:00] | helo: | not high-end, but not buggy or anything |
| [16:12:00] | CyberKnet: | or shift-enter |
| [16:12:00] | CyberKnet: | or something like that. |
| [16:12:00] | helo: | gj, it works :) |
| [16:12:00] | helo: | ctrl+enter |
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| [16:12:00] | CyberKnet: | helo: That information is freely available on the mailing lists |
| [16:12:00] | blue_dolphin: | hello I was having a couple of issues with mythtv. Im on a Ubuntu system and succesfully set up mythtv 2 days ago (ie got signal and sound) however yesterday I get no signal in mythtv nor tvtime which was also working fine before. Also it doesn't seem that the up/down keys actually change the channel even when it worked. So too describe this issue when you first go to watching live tv I see this in white 1:Television if I hi |
| [16:12:00] | blue_dolphin: | t the up down key a big blue number appears as does the channel name and description in a box below but the actual channel did not appear to change. What am I missing here? |
| [16:12:00] | helo: | is xawtv good for testing video capture? |
| [16:12:00] | helo: | my bad |
| [16:12:00] | CyberKnet: | helo: Next time you could save yourself some time by checking there first =) |
| [16:12:00] | CyberKnet: | helo: Just trying to help you help yourself =) |
| [16:13:00] | CyberKnet: | blue_dolphin: I didnt know when you posted it seven minutes ago, and I don't know now. Stop flooding. |
| [16:13:00] | CyberKnet: | blue_dolphin: You can take that as your only warning. |
| [16:13:00] | blue_dolphin: | sorry didn't mean to flood |
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| [16:14:00] | CyberKnet: | helo: depends on what capture card you have. |
| [16:16:00] | helo: | cheap ass sabrent sbt-tvfm, i'm probably SOL... |
| [16:17:00] | ZMorek: | The wilsonet guide used a single console command to test capture |
| [16:17:00] | ZMorek: | I should be able to find it |
| [16:18:00] | helo: | reading it now |
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| [16:18:00] | ZMorek: | it was for an ivtv based card, but I THINK it should work for any card |
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| [16:19:00] | ZMorek: | provided you have the card configured |
| [16:19:00] | ZMorek: | cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/test_capture.mpg |
| [16:19:00] | ZMorek: | then ctrl+c to stop |
| [16:19:00] | ZMorek: | and any player to play it back |
| [16:19:00] | helo: | hmm... invalid argument |
| [16:19:00] | helo: | no bueno |
| [16:20:00] | ZMorek: | :-\ |
| [16:20:00] | CyberKnet: | that only works for PVR-250 and equivalent cards |
| [16:20:00] | CyberKnet: | xawtv is your best bet for bttv cards. |
| [16:20:00] | helo: | i have no idea what kind of card mine is... it uses the saa.... driver |
| [16:20:00] | helo: | there is one mention of it in a mailing list about someone trying to get radio working |
| [16:23:00] | CyberKnet: | I dont know how well the saa* series of chips are supported, sorry. |
| [16:24:00] | CyberKnet: | is it a "blackbird" design? |
| [16:25:00] | helo: | i don't know |
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| [16:27:00] | ZMorek: | CyberKnet: which distro do you use? |
| [16:27:00] | CyberKnet: | Fedora Core 2 |
| [16:27:00] | helo: | saa7130[0]: Huh, no eeprom present (err=-5)? |
| [16:28:00] | helo: | lol |
| [16:28:00] | CyberKnet: | /win 3 |
| [16:28:00] | CyberKnet: | ignore that. |
| [16:28:00] | helo: | saa7134: "<rant> Congratulations! Your TV card vendor saved a few cents for a eeprom, thus your pci board has no subsystem ID and I can't identify it automatically </rant>" |
| [16:30:00] | CyberKnet: | helo: that seems self-explanatory |
| [16:31:00] | helo: | yeah, only they don't have an entry for my card |
| [16:31:00] | CyberKnet: | helo: I would take this problem to whatever forum the saa7134 prefer to use for support requests. Exceptionally few people (Statistically insignificant numbers) use teh saa7130 driver in conjunction with MythTV, so I very much doubt that anyone here can help unfortunately. :( |
| [16:31:00] | helo: | it goes on to list a bunch of card=XX options for various cards to pass to insmod |
| [16:32:00] | helo: | good point... |
| [16:34:00] | ZMorek: | quick question: I've done a little searching and came up with nothing.... have you ever encountered green and red boxes in the myth menus? |
| [16:34:00] | ZMorek: | little boxes that cover individual characters |
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| [16:40:00] | helo: | thanks for all of the help, you are very generous :) |
| [16:40:00] | helo: | bye |
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| [16:42:00] | oneo: | hey guys – anyone know if datadirect is down? |
| [16:42:00] | CyberKnet: | ZMorek: no, sorry. |
| [16:43:00] | oneo: | it says that mythfilldatabase is running correctly but its not grabbing all the data |
| [16:45:00] | AndyCap: | Heh, I use a saa7134 (terratec) and it works, but I want an mpeg2 card. :-P |
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| [17:03:00] | Tommck: | anyone in here use a bttv card for Myth? |
| [17:04:00] | AndyCap: | gah, stupid audio carrier autodetection thingie broke a recording again |
| [17:04:00] | Tommck: | I have a PVR-500 and there are a few lines of static on the top of the screen. Chris Kennedy tells me that this is the VBI (closed captioning) data and it's normal. I'm wondering if anyone else has this data on their screen when using a PVR-250 or a bttv card. |
| [17:05:00] | AndyCap: | Tommck: well, VBI isn't showing on my screen, but I have a saa7134 (neither bttv nor ivtv) |
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| [17:08:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [17:08:00] | xris: | someone stole my nick earlier. |
| [17:09:00] | Tommck: | xris – nice |
| [17:09:00] | Tommck: | AndyCap – what's a saa7134, a DVB? |
| [17:09:00] | carl: | i get that static with my 250, but it goes away. |
| [17:09:00] | AndyCap: | Tommck: no, a tvcard not too different from bttv. |
| [17:10:00] | Tommck: | AndyCap – ahh.. ok |
| [17:10:00] | Tommck: | I always equate non-PVR cards with bttv... I forget there are others |
| [17:10:00] | Tommck: | carl – goes away? |
| [17:10:00] | carl: | huh? |
| [17:11:00] | carl: | my live tv freezes after a few seconds of play. |
| [17:11:00] | carl: | trying to find answers |
| [17:12:00] | Tommck: | carl – you said " i get that static with my 250, but it goes away." – what do you mean? it goes away by itself? |
| [17:12:00] | carl: | yes |
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| [17:13:00] | Tommck: | weird |
| [17:13:00] | Ralph: | I'm trying to get mythtv-0.18 installed on a machine that has never used mythtv |
| [17:13:00] | Ralph: | how does udev create the /dev/video* devices |
| [17:14:00] | AndyCap: | Ralph: when the module is loaded iirc. |
| [17:14:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: nice cvs checkin of your .svnrev files = |
| [17:14:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [17:14:00] | Ralph: | the ivtv module? |
| [17:14:00] | Ralph: | or the kernel modules that are built in for v4l |
| [17:14:00] | AndyCap: | Ralph: dunno exactly which. |
| [17:14:00] | Ralph: | ok thanks |
| [17:15:00] | xnor: | Hi all!, i just installed mythtv, the database seems fine it got som tables, but when i try to start mythtv-backend i get an error message saying "mythbackendqsettings cant create /root/.qt" how do i resolve this? |
| [17:15:00] | Ralph: | it's been a fun couple days just to get to this point so far |
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| [17:16:00] | darkfrog: | Is there any way to keep Myth from starting recording a show that's already started when the backend starts? When I reboot my machine it automatically starts recording in the middle of shows and I want it to stop it. :o |
| [17:16:00] | CyberKnet: | off to the body shop. back in a few |
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| [17:19:00] | carl: | just did a mythfilldatabase and my program guide is filled with 'unknown' |
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| [17:19:00] | carl: | whoever write the 'MythTV Guide for Dummies' is gonna be rich |
| [17:19:00] | carl: | :) |
| [17:20:00] | darkfrog: | ...I'm on it. :o |
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| [17:22:00] | xnor: | when i start mythtv-backend i get "cant create /root/.qt" whats wrong then? |
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| [17:37:00] | EmergeTW: | I was watching a show and the system froze =\ |
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| [17:44:00] | DSL_MTLCA__: | anybody in here have LIRC expertise? |
| [17:44:00] | DSL_MTLCA__ is now known as DSL_MTLCA | |
| [17:45:00] | EmergeTW: | DSL_MTLCA: I have LIRC and expertise, but unfortunately I do not have "LIRC expertise" |
| [17:48:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | lol |
| [17:48:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | well... i'll shoot this at you anyway |
| [17:49:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | my LIRC will stop working intermittantly completely at random for periods of 1–3 minutes |
| [17:49:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | and without me doing anything (other than getting frustrated), it will start working again |
| [17:49:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | my CPU load is not high, no sunlight in the IR receiver |
| [17:50:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | I don't believe it's an issue with the IR receiver or remote because when it works, it's never faulty... i never have to press anything twice or anything like that |
| [17:50:00] | oneo: | hey guys – my program database is an hour off...i think its because im in indiana and the timezones here are wierd...does anyone know how mythfilldatabase figures converts UTC from datadirect to the local timezone? |
| [17:50:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | and when it doesn't work, it doesn't matter how close i get to the receiver, it still doesn't work |
| [17:50:00] | Beirdo: | oneo: are you running qt 3.3.4? |
| [17:50:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | oneo... what version of qt do you have? |
| [17:51:00] | oneo: | 3.3.2 |
| [17:51:00] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [17:51:00] | Beirdo: | make sure you have your timezone set correctly then |
| [17:51:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | type "date" to see what time zone you have |
| [17:51:00] | oneo: | the timezone is set correctly |
| [17:51:00] | Beirdo: | or move somewhere where the timezones aren't retarded |
| [17:51:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | lol |
| [17:51:00] | oneo: | haha im workin on that |
| [17:52:00] | Beirdo: | past that, I dunno |
| [17:52:00] | oneo: | whats wrong with qt 3.3.4? |
| [17:52:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | a bug in some of the time functions |
| [17:52:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | it caused a great deal of people trouble a couple weeks ago :) |
| [17:53:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | myself included, but that's what i get for running 'unstable' |
| [17:53:00] | oneo: | is there a way to manually offset the mythfilldatabase by 1? |
| [17:53:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | there's an option in the mythtv-setup, but it wasn't working for me when i tried it in the past |
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| [17:54:00] | SenorT: | hi there ppl |
| [17:54:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | hola SenorT |
| [17:54:00] | SenorT: | hi DSL_MTLCA |
| [17:56:00] | SenorT: | is it possible to use mythtv without a dvb card ? (i will buy one later) to use it as a "frontend" for playing dvds and movies over network? |
| [17:56:00] | SenorT: | i mean to use all the features _beside_ the tv part ? |
| [17:56:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | afaik |
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| [17:57:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | and you could probably even take the "watch tv" part out of the menu since the themes are XML |
| [17:57:00] | SenorT: | aha |
| [17:58:00] | SenorT: | coz i installed knoppmyth on my box and after installation i just see fvwm and nothing else |
| [17:58:00] | SenorT: | it doesnt even start |
| [17:58:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | i'm not really familiar with knoppmyth... but have you tried starting it manually? |
| [17:59:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | open up xterm and type "mythfrontend", does that do anything? |
| [17:59:00] | SenorT: | ill try it |
| [17:59:00] | SenorT: | just a sec |
| [18:00:00] | SenorT: | "command not found" |
| [18:00:00] | SenorT: | ? |
| [18:00:00] | SenorT: | locate myth |
| [18:00:00] | SenorT: | sorry |
| [18:00:00] | SenorT: | wrong window |
| [18:00:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | lol |
| [18:00:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | you might want to do updatedb before that locate |
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| [18:01:00] | SenorT: | good idea |
| [18:01:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | but it should be in your path |
| [18:02:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | it should be in /usr/bin which SOULD be in your path! |
| [18:03:00] | SenorT: | i tried "locate frontend" and found: |
| [18:04:00] | SenorT: | KnoppMyth-frontend |
| [18:04:00] | SenorT: | AHA! |
| [18:04:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | oh wow... they shouldn't rename it like that... makes big differences when trying to help somebody using knoppmyth! |
| [18:04:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | ha |
| [18:05:00] | SenorT: | i see |
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| [18:08:00] | DigDug: | \q |
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| [18:15:00] | EmergeTW: | If I am watching something, I hit r to record, then r again to stop recording right? |
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| [18:29:00] | helo: | hello |
| [18:29:00] | helo: | everything (but tv-in) is working nicely now |
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| [18:29:00] | helo: | is it possible to filter a playlist based on a string? |
| [18:29:00] | helo: | i have way too many songs to manually scroll through |
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| [18:30:00] | Cromz-wRkN: | helo: I feel your pain. heheh.. 7219 or so on mine :) |
| [18:30:00] | EmergeTW: | How do you record live tv? |
| [18:31:00] | helo: | i have...... |
| [18:31:00] | helo: | 8117 :P |
| [18:31:00] | EmergeTW: | like I am watching something, want to start recording, then stop it like a minute later |
| [18:31:00] | Cromz-wRkN: | EmergeTW: hit R while watching live and it'll start recording. |
| [18:31:00] | Cromz-wRkN: | R is the record toggle |
| [18:31:00] | EmergeTW: | Record "" comes up in the upper left corner |
| [18:31:00] | helo: | there needs to be a jump to function like xmms's "j" |
| [18:31:00] | EmergeTW: | then I hit R again |
| [18:32:00] | EmergeTW: | and go to watch recordings and it says no recordings are availible |
| [18:32:00] | Cromz-wRkN: | EmergeTW: hmm sumthins wrong then.. :/ |
| [18:33:00] | EmergeTW: | Cromz-wRkN: I noticed =\ |
| [18:33:00] | Cromz-wRkN: | helo: 8117 :P I'll get there soon |
| [18:33:00] | EmergeTW: | any ideas |
| [18:33:00] | EmergeTW: | ? |
| [18:33:00] | Cromz-wRkN: | not off hand. I'm fighting the unable to broswe and mythmusic problems I've created |
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| [18:35:00] | helo: | is there any way to search a library for what a song is stored as? |
| [18:36:00] | helo: | i have a fuckton of widespread panic that i can't find |
| [18:36:00] | helo: | ohhh... no .shn support, right? |
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| [18:39:00] | Cromz-wRkN: | :( back to work fo meh |
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| [18:43:00] | helo: | a lot of the fonts are being displayed a little too big so the bottom part of words is cut off |
| [18:43:00] | helo: | are too |
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| [18:51:00] | EmergeTW: | Anyone able to get videos working? |
| [18:51:00] | helo: | i think a bunch of people are |
| [18:52:00] | EmergeTW: | I cant get two videos I copied over to the box to show up |
| [18:52:00] | EmergeTW: | I copied them into /myth/video |
| [18:52:00] | helo: | poor little me can't get his tv cap to work |
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| [18:58:00] | Baylink: | Emerge: check the extensions; MV filters |
| [19:00:00] | EmergeTW: | Baylink: it is a wmv file |
| [19:01:00] | EmergeTW: | Baylink: I am trying to apt-get install w32codecs right now |
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| [19:07:00] | kaptk2: | I have a problem when I try to watch tv in myth all kinds of errors occur |
| [19:07:00] | kaptk2: | the error output is here http://www.pure-wireless.net/andrew/docs/errors.txt |
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| [19:08:00] | kaptk2: | Any ideas? |
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| [19:09:00] | mjc: | anyone know of any decently professional looking RF remotes? the ati one is dinky |
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| [19:09:00] | helo: | j' |
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| [19:12:00] | mjc: | found one. http://www.snapstream.com/Products/firefly/ |
| [19:13:00] | kaptk2: | I have seen the firefly in action it was pretty neat, although the rf thing caused strange results at times |
| [19:13:00] | mjc: | kaptk2, hmm |
| [19:14:00] | mjc: | I have the ati one, came with my father's all-in-wonder |
| [19:14:00] | mjc: | haven't had interference problems |
| [19:14:00] | mjc: | I'm looking for something I can install in new houses, though |
| [19:14:00] | kaptk2: | mjc multipath caused channels to be switched to fast or not the channel wanted |
| [19:14:00] | mjc: | I really detest IR, so if possible I'd like not to use it |
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| [19:15:00] | kaptk2: | yeah I don't know exactly what causes multipath in those remotes but sometimes it is bad other times not |
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| [19:19:00] | MidgetSchool: | Hey guys, if I create a MythTV standalone (back & front end) box with a PVR-250 and an Athlon 750, will I also need a decent video card or could I get away with most anything with TV out (like an old 4MB ATI or something similar)? |
| [19:19:00] | mjc: | MidgetSchool, good idea to get at least something with hardware acceleration |
| [19:20:00] | mjc: | particularly xvmc is great |
| [19:20:00] | mjc: | XvMC you need at least a GeForce FX 5200, though, so that might be out of your cost range |
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| [19:21:00] | kaptk2: | Any help on what is causing these errors http://www.pure-wireless.net/andrew/docs/errors.txt and why I can't watch tv |
| [19:22:00] | mjc: | MidgetSchool, $44.70USD on pricewatch |
| [19:22:00] | mjc: | MidgetSchool, it's not necessary |
| [19:23:00] | MidgetSchool: | mjc: well the thing is I can get one of those old cards for free... hehe. |
| [19:23:00] | mjc: | but at least having XV support is great |
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| [19:23:00] | mjc: | just check if the card has XV |
| [19:23:00] | MidgetSchool: | mjc: without it would I simply not be able to play back video at higher resolutions? |
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| [19:23:00] | mjc: | MidgetSchool, without it it would be difficult to do any cpu intensive task while watching videos |
| [19:24:00] | mjc: | as well as higher resolution problems |
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| [19:24:00] | MidgetSchool: | ok, thanks! |
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| [19:25:00] | kaptk2: | bah no help :( |
| [19:25:00] | Ralph: | what's the command to send the output of make to a text file |
| [19:26:00] | kaptk2: | make > output.txt works |
| [19:26:00] | mjc: | Ralph, 2>&1 > output.txt |
| [19:26:00] | mjc: | kaptk2, that doesn't catch stderr |
| [19:26:00] | Ralph: | thanks |
| [19:26:00] | kaptk2: | mjc you are right |
| [19:27:00] | kaptk2: | sorry was not thinking correctly |
| [19:27:00] | Ralph: | that only caught the first 4 lines of output |
| [19:28:00] | mjc: | should work |
| [19:29:00] | kaptk2: | just worked for me |
| [19:29:00] | Ralph: | make 2>&1 > output.txt |
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| [19:32:00] | mjc: | here ew go, found the one I was thinking of |
| [19:32:00] | mjc: | only problem I'm having now is price ;) |
| [19:32:00] | mjc: | http://www.smarthome.com/8196.html |
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| [19:33:00] | mjc: | cheaper but similar |
| [19:33:00] | mjc: | http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=901 . . . ;dcaid=17379 |
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| [19:34:00] | BucWheat: | what PVR card do i need to purchase for use with mythtv? i have VIA epia M10000 motherboard and 512MB RAM and 80gb hdd |
| [19:35:00] | BucWheat: | now all i need is video card |
| [19:35:00] | BucWheat: | which one should i purchase? |
| [19:35:00] | kaptk2: | http://www.smarthome.com/8196.html <--- Sweet |
| [19:35:00] | kaptk2: | I want one |
| [19:35:00] | mjc: | the cheaper one's just as good |
| [19:35:00] | BucWheat: | kaptk2 what card should i purchase? |
| [19:36:00] | kaptk2: | BucWheat I like the PVR-350 for the TV out |
| [19:36:00] | mjc: | at least for my use |
| [19:36:00] | mjc: | BucWheat, are you looking for HDTV or not? |
| [19:36:00] | kaptk2: | but any hauppaupe card is pretty good |
| [19:36:00] | mjc: | if you're not using hdtv, this is the best one I've seen: http://www.hauppage.com/Pages/products/data_pvr500mce.html |
| [19:37:00] | mjc: | about $130USD |
| [19:37:00] | BucWheat: | is the hdtv true hdtv or software encoded hdtv |
| [19:37:00] | mjc: | true hdtv |
| [19:37:00] | BucWheat: | what about the 150? |
| [19:37:00] | mjc: | BucWheat, the 150 is software encoding |
| [19:37:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [19:38:00] | mjc: | the 500MCE is dual tuners in one card |
| [19:38:00] | kormoc: | the winpvr 150? |
| [19:38:00] | kormoc: | that's hardware mpeg encoding |
| [19:38:00] | mjc: | winpvr, no |
| [19:38:00] | Semhirage: | the pvr150 is hardware encoding |
| [19:38:00] | kormoc: | so what 150 are you talking bout? |
| [19:38:00] | mjc: | sorry, then I'm on crack ;) |
| [19:38:00] | kormoc: | heh, kk |
| [19:38:00] | kormoc: | enjoy :P |
| [19:39:00] | BucWheat: | mjc is dual tuners only needed for PIP? |
| [19:39:00] | Semhirage: | pvr150 has hardware encoding, software decoding afaik |
| [19:39:00] | mjc: | BucWheat, or if you want to record while watching |
| [19:39:00] | kormoc: | or recording two shows at once BucWheat |
| [19:39:00] | BucWheat: | k. nice |
| [19:39:00] | mjc: | BucWheat, theres not much price difference between the 500MCE and the others last I checked |
| [19:39:00] | BucWheat: | too bad newegg.com doesn't have the 500 |
| [19:40:00] | Ralph: | I got my 500 from mwave.com |
| [19:40:00] | BucWheat: | so will a 1ghz via cpu and 512mb ram suffice? |
| [19:40:00] | Semhirage: | anyone have any luck getting the ir-blaster to work with external cable boxes on the hauppauge models? |
| [19:40:00] | kormoc: | you might not want to buy from newegg |
| [19:40:00] | BucWheat: | kormoc why? |
| [19:40:00] | kormoc: | you see, there's a few types of chipsets |
| [19:40:00] | kormoc: | only some are supported |
| [19:40:00] | mjc: | BucWheat, sure |
| [19:40:00] | BucWheat: | kormoc what does that have to do with not purchasing from newegg>? |
| [19:41:00] | kormoc: | BucWheat, you don't know what chipset newegg will send you |
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| [19:41:00] | kormoc: | BucWheat, the one you get might not be supported at all |
| [19:41:00] | BucWheat: | ahh i see |
| [19:41:00] | mjc: | BucWheat, if $170 is not out of your price range I'd wait til may for more air2pc cards; http://www.cyberestore.com/product_info.php?c . . . ducts_id=103 |
| [19:41:00] | mjc: | for HDTV |
| [19:41:00] | mjc: | but you'd still have to get two to record while watching |
| [19:41:00] | BucWheat: | willl that be for open air hdtv ? |
| [19:41:00] | mjc: | yes |
| [19:41:00] | BucWheat: | nice |
| [19:42:00] | Semhirage: | what options are there for cable broadcast hdtv? or will the same cards work |
| [19:42:00] | mjc: | ota only at the moment, actually. there arent' any consumer devices to get HDTV off directv or HD cable or any of those things |
| [19:42:00] | BucWheat: | now is that hardware encoding/decoding hdtv ? |
| [19:43:00] | Semhirage: | guess thats a no on my ir-blaster question |
| [19:43:00] | mjc: | yes ahrdware encoding and decoding I believe |
| [19:43:00] | mjc: | er sorry, just encoding |
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| [19:44:00] | kormoc: | BucWheat, none of those cards do hdtv. |
| [19:44:00] | mjc: | kormoc, the air2pc does |
| [19:44:00] | EmergeTW: | Myth tv wont play a wmv file =\ |
| [19:44:00] | EmergeTW: | mplayer plays it |
| [19:45:00] | kormoc: | mjc, we're talking bout the pvr cards tho :P |
| [19:45:00] | clintar: | with the firewire thing, doesn't that capture a hd stream? |
| [19:45:00] | EmergeTW: | but if I try to run it under mythtv it wont run |
| [19:45:00] | clintar: | from the cable box? |
| [19:45:00] | kormoc: | mjc, so none of those cards do hdtv :P |
| [19:45:00] | mjc: | I just pasted him the air2pc |
| [19:45:00] | mjc: | so yes, the air2pc does |
| [19:45:00] | kormoc: | ooh, missed that |
| [19:45:00] | EmergeTW: | any ideas people? |
| [19:45:00] | clintar: | EmergeTW: doesn't mythtv use mplayer to play videos? |
| [19:46:00] | BucWheat: | mjc what is your mythtv setup like? |
| [19:46:00] | BucWheat: | mjc what cards do you have? |
| [19:46:00] | EmergeTW: | clintar: yeah, that is what is puzzleing me |
| [19:46:00] | mjc: | BucWheat, you don't want to know, it'll make you cry. I sell it for a living ;) |
| [19:46:00] | BucWheat: | what the air2pc? |
| [19:47:00] | mjc: | no, I have four DVRs from my cable company that have firewire inputs |
| [19:47:00] | clintar: | mjc: how is it supporting myth? |
| [19:47:00] | BucWheat: | mjc what do you use firewire inputs for ? external hdd? |
| [19:47:00] | mjc: | BucWheat, no, it shows up as a firewire video device |
| [19:47:00] | BucWheat: | oh you connect it to your pc |
| [19:48:00] | mjc: | yes |
| [19:48:00] | BucWheat: | mjc nice. i'm looking at air2pc and it is only a video input card |
| [19:48:00] | mjc: | BucWheat, yes, video input only |
| [19:48:00] | BucWheat: | mjc so i'd still need wintv card to display to tv? |
| [19:48:00] | mjc: | no, use a video card with tv out |
| [19:49:00] | BucWheat: | ahh silly me the via epia m10000 already has video out onboard :) |
| [19:49:00] | mjc: | there ya go |
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| [19:49:00] | BucWheat: | so i can use the air2pc as my pvr card. i should be able to connect cable to it as well to get cables co hdtv chans right? |
| [19:50:00] | mjc: | BucWheat, no, you cannot get cable company hdtv from that |
| [19:50:00] | mjc: | you will only get SD |
| [19:50:00] | BucWheat: | mjc SD? standard definition? |
| [19:50:00] | BucWheat: | mjc i guess because i'd need their set top box |
| [19:50:00] | mjc: | their set top box usually does not output it |
| [19:50:00] | mjc: | I have this motorola dvr thing w/ a firewire port on |
| [19:50:00] | BucWheat: | k |
| [19:50:00] | mjc: | it |
| [19:51:00] | BucWheat: | you lucky dog you :-D |
| [19:51:00] | BucWheat: | you running linux or windows for your myth box? |
| [19:51:00] | mjc: | linux |
| [19:51:00] | BucWheat: | sweet what distro? debian? |
| [19:51:00] | mjc: | ubuntu |
| [19:51:00] | SenorT: | mythTV on windows ? |
| [19:51:00] | mjc: | SenorT, I don't know I simply ignored that part ;) |
| [19:52:00] | BucWheat: | oh nice. so looks like all i need to purchase is the air2pc card then |
| [19:52:00] | mjc: | yep |
| [19:52:00] | BucWheat: | since the via epia m10000 has everything else built on |
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| [19:52:00] | BucWheat: | SWEET! to bad they are out of stock heh |
| [19:52:00] | mjc: | theres another card there but it's PCI-X and I doubt your epia has it |
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| [19:54:00] | BucWheat: | you are right it only has PCI |
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| [19:54:00] | BucWheat: | mjc there are other cards on the cyberstore.com site that says you can watch dbs stations. is this without a receiver? |
| [19:55:00] | mjc: | my current setup is this: four motorola 6200s connected via firewire to a dual opteron 242 w/ 2GB RAM and 1.6TB storage in a 2U case (thunder K8S motherboard); client pcs are athlon64 3000+ w/ GeForce 6600GT's connected to sony plasma displays, 1GB PC3200 and 120GB HDDs in 1U cases |
| [19:55:00] | riksta: | jesus christ |
| [19:55:00] | riksta: | :P |
| [19:55:00] | BucWheat: | nice |
| [19:56:00] | mjc: | riksta, I install them into new homes for a living |
| [19:56:00] | mjc: | mine's the model |
| [19:56:00] | riksta: | mjc: ahh, does that make you decent cash then |
| [19:56:00] | mjc: | you have no idea ;) |
| [19:56:00] | BucWheat: | mjc got a website with your client boxes? |
| [19:56:00] | riksta: | i always wondered if someone could do solely that and make a living |
| [19:56:00] | mjc: | BucWheat, no, so far we've just been reselling to housing developments |
| [19:56:00] | mjc: | Ill take pictures soon |
| [19:56:00] | riksta: | mjc: if you need a website :) |
| [19:57:00] | BucWheat: | mjc you use 2 6600gt's in your clients boxes? |
| [19:57:00] | riksta: | i was thinking about trying to sell them over here in the UK to housing developments |
| [19:57:00] | riksta: | like luxury inner city flats |
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| [19:58:00] | BucWheat: | mjc does your 2U come with a PCI riser card? |
| [19:58:00] | riksta: | mjc: what do you do about stability and crashing |
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| [20:00:00] | BucWheat: | c'mon mjc don't keep us waiting heh |
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| [20:00:00] | riksta: | he's talking in #myhtv by accident :) |
| [20:00:00] | riksta: | #mythtv |
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| [20:00:00] | mjc_: | mjc_ next thing to improve, wireless. haha |
| [20:00:00] | mjc_: | mjc_ my company does websites for movie studios as well |
| [20:00:00] | riksta: | mjc: what do you do about stability and crashing |
| [20:00:00] | mjc_: | riksta, in what regard? |
| [20:00:00] | riksta: | like, surely the backend falls over and stuff |
| [20:01:00] | mjc_: | ah, daemon tools |
| [20:01:00] | riksta: | it does for all of us :) |
| [20:01:00] | riksta: | just fire em back up? |
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| [20:01:00] | mjc_: | daemontools auto reloads them |
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| [20:01:00] | ** Beirdo pukes ** | |
| [20:01:00] | riksta: | yeah, so you've never had any boxes that have just gone haywire? |
| [20:01:00] | mjc_: | no, not yet |
| [20:01:00] | riksta: | restarting the backend wont always fix something |
| [20:02:00] | mjc_: | worse comes to worse we get a support call |
| [20:02:00] | mjc_: | we have sudo on all the boxes we install, and a little help menu that displays external IP address |
| [20:02:00] | EmergeTW: | My channels are downloaded, but there is no program information in the guide, any suggestions? |
| [20:03:00] | riksta: | what do you mean, your channels are downloaded |
| [20:03:00] | BucWheat: | mjc there are other cards on the cyberstore.com site that says you can watch dbs stations. is this without a receiver? |
| [20:03:00] | riksta: | <riksta> i was thinking about trying to sell them over here in the UK to housing developments |
| [20:03:00] | riksta: | <riksta> like luxury inner city flats |
| [20:03:00] | mjc_: | could certainly do it |
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| [20:03:00] | EmergeTW: | riksta: it got the list of channels and channel names fine, but there is no information on what is playing on the channels |
| [20:04:00] | riksta: | i'd be interested to know a bit more about your setup |
| [20:04:00] | riksta: | EmergeTW: did you run mythfilldatabase |
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| [20:04:00] | mjc_: | BucWheat, DVB-S is different from OTA, but I'm not sure how. I think the air2pc just copies the stream off the air |
| [20:04:00] | riksta: | how is it different? |
| [20:04:00] | EmergeTW: | riksta: I believe so, but I am running it again to make certain |
| [20:05:00] | BucWheat: | mjc k. but the card on the site is DVB-S can i watch directv and dishnetwork with out a receiver with this card? |
| [20:05:00] | mjc_: | riksta, I believe it's actual decoding as opposed to just ripping the digital signal |
| [20:05:00] | jams: | anybody in here use tuxracer with irxevent? |
| [20:05:00] | CyberKnet: | BucWheat: as far as I know that is not possible. |
| [20:05:00] | mjc_: | BucWheat, With Dish Network or Directv you will need to either 1) get their PVR, |
| [20:05:00] | mjc_: | or 2) modify your receiver with the 169time mod ( http://169time.com ). |
| [20:05:00] | mjc_: | quoted that from http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/124706 |
| [20:05:00] | riksta: | mjc: i tihnk that for non encrypted streams it just demultiplexes the transport stream |
| [20:06:00] | mjc_: | riksta, believe it doesn't do encryption at all |
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| [20:14:00] | BucWheat: | mjc_ that 169time.com is wayyyyy too high there has to be another more affordable way |
| [20:14:00] | BucWheat: | $399.99 for the DIY kit is outrageous |
| [20:14:00] | mjc_: | get the dvr from your provider and get lucky that it exports it somehow |
| [20:14:00] | riksta: | interesting, 169time.com creashes my privoxy |
| [20:14:00] | mjc_: | lol |
| [20:15:00] | BucWheat: | mjc_ what card do you use in your client setups? |
| [20:15:00] | BucWheat: | i noticed you only had 6600 vid card |
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| [20:16:00] | EmergeTW: | riksta: perfect |
| [20:16:00] | EmergeTW: | riksta: that did it |
| [20:16:00] | riksta: | EmergeTW: great |
| [20:16:00] | riksta: | EmergeTW: now put mythfilldatabase in a cronjob to run each night |
| [20:17:00] | mjc_: | BucWheat, that's for the clients |
| [20:17:00] | mjc_: | brb |
| [20:17:00] | BucWheat: | yea i now they don't have pvr capabilites? |
| [20:17:00] | BucWheat: | k |
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| [20:18:00] | EmergeTW: | riksta: any ideas on how to get 'r' to work for recording now? |
| [20:18:00] | riksta: | what happens when you press it? |
| [20:19:00] | EmergeTW: | it says 'Record "<shownamehere>"' then it does nothing |
| [20:19:00] | EmergeTW: | if I press it again it does the same thing |
| [20:19:00] | riksta: | look in the console (alt+tab) |
| [20:19:00] | EmergeTW: | riksta: crap, I would but the box just froze |
| [20:19:00] | EmergeTW: | riksta: have to force a reboot |
| [20:20:00] | riksta: | oh dear |
| [20:20:00] | EmergeTW: | riksta: heh, that is the other problem I am trying to fix |
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| [20:20:00] | Semhirage: | anyone have any suggestions for using the hauppauge ir-blaster with lirc to control an external cable box? |
| [20:21:00] | riksta: | EmergeTW: try disabling ACPI and APIC |
| [20:22:00] | EmergeTW: | riksta: know where to disable them? ( I am running knoppmyth ) |
| [20:22:00] | marmoset: | EmergeTW: at lilo you can do acpi=no apic=no |
| [20:22:00] | marmoset: | I think |
| [20:22:00] | marmoset: | not positive tho |
| [20:22:00] | riksta: | well in the kernel params, noapic nolapic acpi=off |
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| [20:24:00] | EmergeTW: | after I edit /etc/lilo.conf I run lilo right? |
| [20:24:00] | riksta: | yes |
| [20:24:00] | EmergeTW: | thanks, I usually use grub |
| [20:24:00] | riksta: | yeah grub is better, you don't have to run it then |
| [20:26:00] | marmoset: | EmergeTW: don't do it in lilo.conf |
| [20:26:00] | marmoset: | EmergeTW: I did that and it didn't work (machine locked up at boot), and I had to do tricky things to get it to boot again :) |
| [20:26:00] | marmoset: | try it on the command line first, and if it works, then put it in lilo |
| [20:26:00] | marmoset: | .conf |
| [20:27:00] | riksta: | oh yeah....here's a point, can you even do it in lilo.conf if you are on knoppmyth? |
| [20:27:00] | riksta: | cd is read only |
| [20:27:00] | marmoset: | riksta: yes, knoppmyth installs to the HD |
| [20:27:00] | riksta: | ah |
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| [20:27:00] | riksta: | never used it |
| [20:27:00] | marmoset: | except I think you can maybe do a frontend off just a CD |
| [20:27:00] | marmoset: | it's pretty good |
| [20:27:00] | marmoset: | I highly recommend it for anyone wanting to try out mythtv |
| [20:28:00] | marmoset: | it pretty much just works out of the box |
| [20:28:00] | riksta: | yeah, like a "live-cd" typa thing |
| [20:29:00] | ** marmoset trying to decide if he should order an epia machine ** | |
| [20:30:00] | EmergeTW: | alt-tab does nothing |
| [20:30:00] | riksta: | EmergeTW: you need to look at the log output or something |
| [20:30:00] | riksta: | have you got /var/log/mythtv/mythtv.log etc |
| [20:32:00] | mjc_: | wireless sucks ;) |
| [20:33:00] | BucWheat: | mjc_ how does your client pcs get pvr capability with only the 6600 card? |
| [20:33:00] | EmergeTW: | riksta: I have no mythtv.log I do have a mythtvbackend.log though |
| [20:33:00] | riksta: | look at that then |
| [20:33:00] | riksta: | might not have permission for the myth user to write to the directory you specified for recordings |
| [20:33:00] | mjc_: | BucWheat, gigabit ethernet |
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| [20:35:00] | EmergeTW: | gah, box froze again |
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| [20:36:00] | EmergeTW: | riksta: It freezes when the only when stuff is being recorded I think, like if I am skipping back or forward with livetv |
| [20:36:00] | EmergeTW: | but not everytime |
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| [20:37:00] | tanq: | does anyone know of a really good opensource solution to video editing. |
| [20:37:00] | riksta: | tanq: cinelerra |
| [20:37:00] | riksta: | it's ugly though, or try kino |
| [20:39:00] | tanq: | which do you think does the better job.. |
| [20:39:00] | tanq: | or has the ability to do the better job.. |
| [20:39:00] | riksta: | cinelerra |
| [20:39:00] | tanq: | ok... |
| [20:39:00] | riksta: | it has clustering too |
| [20:39:00] | riksta: | it needs a gui makeover |
| [20:39:00] | riksta: | it looks like a nickelodeon kids app :) |
| [20:39:00] | tanq: | well basically i'll probably just be splitting this mpeg up so i can create a dvd with chapters and scenes |
| [20:45:00] | riksta: | kino will be ok for that, it's a nice gtk2 ui |
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| [21:05:00] | EmergeTW: | Alright, lets see if you guys have any ideas about this |
| [21:05:00] | EmergeTW: | all channels over 62 are staticy |
| [21:09:00] | heckman: | what tuner ? |
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| [21:12:00] | MidgetSchool: | mjc_: does "XvMC" have a homepage? all I can find is the "xv" page, which I'm not sure is the same thing |
| [21:12:00] | riksta: | it is, yeah |
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| [21:13:00] | riksta: | er |
| [21:13:00] | mjc_: | xvmc is part of x.org |
| [21:13:00] | riksta: | yeah that's wrong they are seperate |
| [21:13:00] | mjc_: | nvidia cards starting with the Geforce FX 5200 support it |
| [21:13:00] | riksta: | xvmc is for nvidia |
| [21:13:00] | mjc_: | mplayer supports it if you configure it correctly |
| [21:14:00] | mjc_: | xvmc is available in nvidia cards but not only nvidia |
| [21:14:00] | riksta: | ah rite, ati too? |
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| [21:14:00] | EmergeTW: | heckman: whatever tuner is in a pvc350 |
| [21:17:00] | MidgetSchool: | mjc_: are you sure no cards before that support it? this page says the drivers for the Geforce 4 MX AGP series supports it also? (which would mean like the MX4000, for example) |
| [21:17:00] | MidgetSchool: | http://etvcookbook.org/reference/mozilla.html |
| [21:17:00] | MidgetSchool: | though that's about XFree86 not x.org... ? |
| [21:18:00] | mjc_: | it's in both I do believe |
| [21:18:00] | mjc_: | MidgetSchool, the nvidia driver readme says 5200 and higher for full xvmc support |
| [21:18:00] | laga: | it works on some gf4, too |
| [21:19:00] | MidgetSchool: | ah, ok. maybe I will just get a 5200 and not worry about it then |
| [21:19:00] | mjc_: | laga, not on my Ti 4600 |
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| [21:19:00] | mjc_: | which is worlds better than the 4mx (cough 2mx) |
| [21:19:00] | laga: | mjc_: ha.ha! ;) |
| [21:19:00] | mjc_: | it's better than the 5200 (cough slow 2mx) |
| [21:19:00] | laga: | it works on my geforce 4 mx 4440. |
| [21:20:00] | mjc_: | but no XvMC( |
| [21:20:00] | mjc_: | =( |
| [21:20:00] | mjc_: | well actually |
| [21:20:00] | mjc_: | doesn't matter now because the card died last night ;) |
| [21:20:00] | mjc_: | stuck w/ a 9800 Pro instead |
| [21:20:00] | MidgetSchool: | speaking of video cards, I woke up this morning and my 6800GT was completely screwed :0( |
| [21:20:00] | mjc_: | ouch, warranty it |
| [21:20:00] | whimboo: | hi, when I'm recording a show while no user is logged on, no audio is recorded. After logging in all is fine. Somebody knows about this problem? |
| [21:21:00] | MidgetSchool: | don't have warranty, bought/traded it with a friend... hopefully he has the warranty |
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| [21:26:00] | xris: | whimboo: which distro? |
| [21:26:00] | whimboo: | 'm using debian. my soundsystem is alsa |
| [21:35:00] | heckman: | is there a component in/out HD card for mythtv recommended ? |
| [21:36:00] | jarodwilson: | component in card, no |
| [21:36:00] | heckman: | how about component out at least ? |
| [21:36:00] | jarodwilson: | component out, vga -> component transcoder or GeForce 6 series w/their HDTV adapter dongle |
| [21:37:00] | Filip^: | whimboo: are your permissions ok? |
| [21:37:00] | heckman: | ah well yeah i guess that could work. |
| [21:37:00] | heckman: | nothing at all component in though ? |
| [21:37:00] | jarodwilson: | Not in the consumer market |
| [21:37:00] | jarodwilson: | component video is analog, so you'd have to be encoding the video |
| [21:37:00] | jarodwilson: | which takes a TON of cpu |
| [21:38:00] | jarodwilson: | unless you have $$$ equipment that does it in hardware |
| [21:38:00] | whimboo: | Filip^: when I'm logging in I can here that the soundsystem is initialized. IMO no audio is available before that step |
| [21:38:00] | Filip^: | whimboo: I'm hardly an expert, bvut does your root user maybe require audio group permissions? |
| [21:39:00] | Filip^: | Since you say no users are logged in, you' |
| [21:39:00] | Filip^: | re using root to start the backend, no? |
| [21:39:00] | whimboo: | Filip^: moment, i'll check but he should have that. |
| [21:40:00] | whimboo: | Filip^: uuhh you are right. root is no member of the audio group |
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| [21:40:00] | Filip^: | whimboo: I hope that's it |
| [21:41:00] | whimboo: | Filip^: but why the backend is recording audio after i log in? |
| [21:41:00] | Filip^: | whimboo: please, your one difficult question was more than enough |
| [21:41:00] | whimboo: | when it runs under root? |
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| [21:41:00] | whimboo: | ok ;) |
| [21:41:00] | Filip^: | :) |
| [21:41:00] | whimboo: | I'll try it.. brb |
| [21:42:00] | Filip^: | I'll be in bed, but good luck anyway! |
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| [21:48:00] | carl: | yeah! finally got MythTV setup. |
| [21:53:00] | ZMorek: | nice :-) |
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| [21:54:00] | carl: | thanks! |
| [21:54:00] | ZMorek: | my mythtv box is definitely breaking me into linux... I'm still having issues, but I've gotten past most of my newbie problems |
| [21:55:00] | MidgetSchool: | hmm I'm the other way around – I know linux well but I've never installed anything with X or done anything to do with home theatre ;-P |
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| [21:56:00] | ZMorek: | before this, my computer experience was entirely limited to windows |
| [21:56:00] | ZMorek: | I figured I couldn't consider myself a true geek until I'd gotten linux going |
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| [21:59:00] | ZMorek: | and I got FC3 installed (not much of an accomplishment :-P ), but now I can't seem to get myth working... so I'm trying to locate the source of the problems |
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| [22:00:00] | whimboo: | mmh no way. mythbackend is running under user myth and he is a member of the audio group. Still no sound when no user is logged in :( |
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| [22:01:00] | MidgetSchool: | there is a detailed howto of myth with FC3 somewhere – did you try following it? |
| [22:02:00] | ZMorek: | yeah I followed it |
| [22:02:00] | ZMorek: | I think the problems involve the compiles at atrpms |
| [22:02:00] | jarodwilson: | ZMorek: which part? |
| [22:02:00] | ZMorek: | and I probably missed a step somewhere in the wilsonet guide |
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| [22:03:00] | ZMorek: | well when I went to install ivtv |
| [22:03:00] | ZMorek: | I used apt |
| [22:03:00] | ZMorek: | and it worked fine |
| [22:03:00] | ZMorek: | it figured the dependencies and got the kernel module and all that |
| [22:03:00] | ** marmoset ordered mII 10000 epia, woohoo ** | |
| [22:03:00] | ZMorek: | but with lirc it didn't |
| [22:03:00] | ZMorek: | and I tried the line in the guide |
| [22:03:00] | ZMorek: | apt-get install lirc-kmdl-$KVER |
| [22:04:00] | ZMorek: | but it said something along the lines of "module lirc-kmdl not found" |
| [22:04:00] | ZMorek: | so I had to put in my kernel version by itself |
| [22:05:00] | ZMorek: | 2.6.10–1.770_14.rhfc3.at |
| [22:05:00] | ZMorek: | lircd doesn't work |
| [22:05:00] | ZMorek: | it fails on boot and I don't know where the log for it is |
| [22:05:00] | jarodwilson: | so $KVER probably isn't actually set |
| [22:05:00] | jarodwilson: | lirc will fail if you haven't already loaded ivtv |
| [22:06:00] | ZMorek: | I loaded ivtv before lirc |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: aren't you supposed to be working or something. ;) |
| [22:06:00] | jarodwilson: | which doesn't happen automagically on FC3 without a patch |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | s/\./?/ |
| [22:06:00] | jarodwilson: | xris :P |
| [22:06:00] | ZMorek: | and I changed up the modprobe.conf as the guide said |
| [22:06:00] | jarodwilson: | yeah, supposed to be. :) |
| [22:06:00] | laga: | hey jarodwilson, nice to meet you ;) |
| [22:06:00] | ** xris points at kormoc, who seems to be hard at work ** | |
| [22:06:00] | ZMorek: | and I got the lirc config for the new remote |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | correction.. seems to be emerging things on his mythbox at home. |
| [22:07:00] | ZMorek: | weird thing is I can start lirc on my own in console and it works |
| [22:07:00] | jarodwilson: | ZMorek: Did you patch rc.sysinit? |
| [22:07:00] | ZMorek: | but the daemon doesn't work |
| [22:07:00] | kormoc: | heh |
| [22:07:00] | MidgetSchool: | zmorek: for future reference, echo $KVER will show you the value (if any) sy $KVER (at command line that is) |
| [22:07:00] | ** jarodwilson busy setting up stuff in Request Tracker at work... ** | |
| [22:07:00] | kormoc: | I just was finishing up a bug report for the kbd package the install bombed out on |
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| [22:07:00] | Semhirage: | does anyone use the onboard ir-blaster with a hauppauge card to control an external cable box? |
| [22:09:00] | ZMorek: | I thought I patched rc.sysinit |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | Heya jarodwilson. |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | welcome :) |
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| [22:11:00] | xris: | we should start planning our subversion of mythtv cvs.... (pun intended, /me kicks himself) |
| [22:11:00] | xris: | Semhirage: apparently not |
| [22:13:00] | ZMorek: | I never patched rc.sysinit |
| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:13:00] | ZMorek: | I knew I probably missed something |
| [22:13:00] | ** Beirdo CRANKS Van Halen – Panama ** | |
| [22:14:00] | ** xris has Pearl Jam for the moment. ** | |
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| [22:14:00] | ** ZMorek QUEEN BEST OF! ** | |
| [22:14:00] | xris: | uber-random selections in rhythmbox |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:14:00] | xris: | next is probably going to be something like Gypsy Kings. |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | and when I say crank, I mean crank |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | it's at 11 :) |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:15:00] | xris: | heh |
| [22:15:00] | xris: | my keyboard only has a little wheel. no numbers. |
| [22:15:00] | Beirdo: | I meant figuratively |
| [22:15:00] | xris: | heh |
| [22:15:00] | Beirdo: | OK, In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida ripped.... |
| [22:15:00] | xris: | no need to go really loud with good headphones. |
| [22:15:00] | Beirdo: | next CD please |
| [22:15:00] | xris: | heh |
| [22:15:00] | Beirdo: | sure there is |
| [22:15:00] | xris: | one song, one cd. heh. |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | loud loud music with good quality :) |
| [22:16:00] | xris: | |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | 17:02 song |
| [22:16:00] | xris: | ah, thought it was about twice that long |
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| [22:16:00] | Semhirage: | xris: apparently not, which is rather disappointing |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | that's plenty long enough |
| [22:16:00] | ** laga listens to children of bodom again ;) ** | |
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| [22:16:00] | mchou: | Captain_Murdoch: you there? |
| [22:16:00] | mirak: | hello |
| [22:16:00] | ** xris pokes mchou with a blunt trout. ** | |
| [22:16:00] | jarodwilson: | Hey Beirdo |
| [22:16:00] | xris: | Semhirage: my MCE didn't come with one. |
| [22:16:00] | mchou: | mmm???? |
| [22:17:00] | Semhirage: | means i have no way to change channels on my cable box |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | jarodwilson: good to see you joining the fun. |
| [22:17:00] | xris: | mchou: just being friendly. (notice you didn't get whacked) |
| [22:17:00] | jarodwilson: | :) |
| [22:17:00] | mchou: | hi xris :) |
| [22:17:00] | xris: | (or a sharp trout). |
| [22:17:00] | jarodwilson: | joining the fun: aka wasting even more time at work when I should be working. ;) |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | yeah well |
| [22:17:00] | Semhirage: | xris: happen to know of any good tutorials for getting lirc to use the ir-blaster to control the cable box? |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | ripping: Genesis – Invisible Touch |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:18:00] | mchou: | ok, is $70 for 200GB PATA drive a good deal??? |
| [22:18:00] | Semhirage: | what brand? |
| [22:18:00] | mchou: | WD. |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | Blech |
| [22:18:00] | Semhirage: | i'll walk away from that deal tyvm |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | buy seagates :) |
| [22:18:00] | kormoc: | I'd get it |
| [22:18:00] | xris: | mchou: special ed? |
| [22:18:00] | ZMorek: | well lircd starts on boot |
| [22:19:00] | ZMorek: | and I feel dumb I skipped that step |
| [22:19:00] | ** xris agrees with Beirdo. ** | |
| [22:19:00] | jarodwilson: | +1 Seagate |
| [22:19:00] | mchou: | 200GB is special ED. |
| [22:19:00] | xris: | but WD special edition drives aren't bad. |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | quieter, more stable |
| [22:19:00] | Semhirage: | my seagates are fantastic |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | and faster, I believe |
| [22:19:00] | xris: | seagate is definitely the preferred, though. |
| [22:19:00] | Semhirage: | i've thrown out both of my dead wd special editions |
| [22:19:00] | jarodwilson: | Samsung drives are also pretty nice (and quiet) |
| [22:19:00] | ** kormoc has a friend who had two 200 gig seagates die in the past month. ** | |
| [22:19:00] | jarodwilson: | I have 2x160G Samsung drives and one 160G Seagate in my A64 |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: tell him to stop beating them with hammers |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:19:00] | mchou: | Semhirage: heh, this drive doent need to be mission critical. Only videos anyways :) |
| [22:19:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [22:20:00] | Semhirage: | thats what i said too |
| [22:20:00] | xris: | mchou: $70 with no rebates is a good deal |
| [22:20:00] | Semhirage: | until it died and i lost 50GB's of movies |
| [22:20:00] | Beirdo: | my file server has 4*200G seagate, 1*160G (I think) seagate |
| [22:20:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:20:00] | kormoc: | mchou, where is this deal btw? |
| [22:20:00] | mchou: | xris: unfortunately it does involve rebates. |
| [22:20:00] | mchou: | kormoc: Frys. |
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| [22:20:00] | Beirdo: | and a couple 200G SATA Seagate in my build server :) |
| [22:20:00] | Semhirage: | blech |
| [22:20:00] | mirak: | i have a USB 2 acquisition card, called Zoran Co. Personal Media Division (Nogatech) USBGear USBG-V1 |
| [22:21:00] | xris: | mchou: http://shop.outpost.com/product/4280824 |
| [22:21:00] | mirak: | anyone have something similar ? |
| [22:21:00] | mirak: | somebody gave it to me |
| [22:21:00] | mirak: | I wonder wich kind of device is it is in /dev |
| [22:21:00] | jarodwilson: | file server: 7x120G WD, had 'em for about 3 years now |
| [22:21:00] | mirak: | or how to set it up |
| [22:21:00] | Semhirage: | Beirdo: is there a good tutorial for setting up lirc to use hauppauge ir-blasters? |
| [22:21:00] | mchou: | xris: hmm, not bad. |
| [22:21:00] | Beirdo: | dunno |
| [22:21:00] | jarodwilson: | Myth MBE: 2x200G, 1x250G WD |
| [22:21:00] | Beirdo: | I don't use lirc at all |
| [22:21:00] | ZMorek: | mysqld fails on boot |
| [22:21:00] | mchou: | xris: about same $/GB...... |
| [22:22:00] | mirak: | how can I know to what device file a device is bound ? |
| [22:22:00] | mirak: | bounded |
| [22:22:00] | jarodwilson: | All my WD drives sit in the garage now. |
| [22:22:00] | Semhirage: | well then, what can i install to let me use my hauppauge remote for controlling mythtv and my external cable box? |
| [22:22:00] | Beirdo: | jarodwilson: your guide gets used a lot, BTW :) As I'm sure your weblogs would tell you :) |
| [22:22:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: mean thet arent being used? :) |
| [22:22:00] | mchou: | that* |
| [22:23:00] | jarodwilson: | No, the WDs are in servers on my rack in the garage, where I can't hear 'em |
| [22:23:00] | xris: | mchou: but seagate with a full 5year warranty. |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | good choice. |
| [22:23:00] | jarodwilson: | Stuff in-house is either laptop, Seagate or Samsung |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | WD ain't quiet |
| [22:23:00] | mchou: | xris: yeah, that true. |
| [22:23:00] | jarodwilson: | yeah, the guide gets a fair amount of traffic. Something like 12GB/mo avg for nothing but text |
| [22:23:00] | mchou: | WD's are pretty quiet in my case. Much better than maxtor crap. |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | wow. |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | that's impressive :) |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | we send a lot of newbies your way :) |
| [22:24:00] | jarodwilson: | :) |
| [22:24:00] | mirak: | nobody have an idea ? |
| [22:24:00] | mchou: | maxtor sounds like a pinball machine...... |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | crapstor IS a pinball machine.... TILT! |
| [22:24:00] | mchou: | lol :) |
| [22:24:00] | Semhirage: | =( all i want is to be able to change the damn channels on my cable box |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | I wouldn't trust maxtor further than I can throw one |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | or even that far |
| [22:25:00] | mchou: | Semhirage: hmm???? |
| [22:25:00] | Semhirage: | i wouldn't trust them that far |
| [22:25:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: that's a lot of traffic. |
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| [22:25:00] | mchou: | Semhirage: use serial cable or irblaster :) |
| [22:26:00] | mirak: | hello anyone ? |
| [22:26:00] | Semhirage: | i have a hauppauge pvr150 with an ir-blaster and an external cable box, i just want a tutorial on how to install something to control the damned ir-blaster so i can actually change the channel |
| [22:26:00] | ZMorek: | would nfslock fail on shutdown because I use xfs for one of my partitions? |
| [22:26:00] | Beirdo: | mirak: dmesg might tell you |
| [22:26:00] | jarodwilson: | xris: yeah, decided to try and cash in a bit more too, just added Google AdWords. :) |
| [22:26:00] | Beirdo: | cool :) |
| [22:26:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: good. Beirdo and I did that a few months back. |
| [22:26:00] | Beirdo: | I should go clicky |
| [22:26:00] | mchou: | Semhirage: so you're saying th irblaster that comes w/150 doesnt work in linux?? |
| [22:27:00] | xris: | I should add it to my nuvexport trac installation. |
| [22:27:00] | jarodwilson: | just found a missing span close that only showed ill effects in Opera 8... |
| [22:27:00] | Semhirage: | i dont know |
| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:27:00] | Semhirage: | i've yet to find any document on how to configure it |
| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | I was considering adding it to trac myself |
| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | NP: Van Halen – I'll Wait |
| [22:27:00] | xris: | I have too many trac installations. heh. |
| [22:27:00] | mchou: | Semhirage: does it use i2c or what? |
| [22:27:00] | Semhirage: | with lirc, i can control applications |
| [22:27:00] | Semhirage: | i believe so yes |
| [22:27:00] | Semhirage: | those are the kernel modules that load |
| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | xris: how can you have too many? :) |
| [22:28:00] | xris: | I think I'm going to combine some of my svn repositories into a single one.. random scripts. |
| [22:28:00] | jarodwilson: | ~20 trac instances at work |
| [22:28:00] | Semhirage: | lirc_i2c and lirc_dev |
| [22:28:00] | jarodwilson: | 3 at home |
| [22:28:00] | mchou: | Semhirage: get an i2c sniffer :) |
| [22:28:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: I have a slick setup at home. all using mod_redirect. |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | I have 3 instances so far at home... well 3 projects on one running setup |
| [22:28:00] | xris: | one installation (which consists of a single trac.cgi symlink) |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | and another that will be created soon |
| [22:28:00] | Semhirage: | i tried testing with irsend but i get socket in use and permission denied errors |
| [22:28:00] | Semhirage: | AS ROOT |
| [22:28:00] | xris: | oh, and an index.php file. |
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| [22:28:00] | mirak: | Beirdo: well I tried on linux on a powerpc and it created an /dev/nvidia device |
| [22:29:00] | mirak: | now on x86 nothing is created |
| [22:29:00] | xris: | I need to figure out how to make it work with mod_python now. dunno how that'll work with the mod_rewrite and alias stuff. |
| [22:29:00] | Semhirage: | so please o please, i dont' care what program it is, just please tell me what software to use that will let my remote work with both mythtv and the cable box |
| [22:29:00] | Beirdo: | dunno, mirak. dmesg is your friend though. Check that the module is at least installed |
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| [22:29:00] | jarodwilson: | /dev/nvidia won't do squat on ppc... |
| [22:29:00] | Beirdo: | Semhirage: www.google.com |
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| [22:30:00] | jarodwilson: | I've got a dual G4 box running FC4 somewhere at home... |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | you will need to do some research, I don't think anyone here knows the quick fix for you |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | jarodwilson: nice |
| [22:30:00] | ** xris wishes he had money for such things. ** | |
| [22:30:00] | jarodwilson: | Had it on my iBook for a bit too, but power management sucked |
| [22:30:00] | xris: | well, that and I'd spend it on something else, anyway. |
| [22:30:00] | jarodwilson: | though ubuntu isn't doing any better |
| [22:31:00] | ZMorek: | where do I find out what version of mysql I have installed? |
| [22:31:00] | jarodwilson: | only ydl gets that part right |
| [22:31:00] | Semhirage: | and what exactly am i supposed to google for genius, i've been googling for a week on lirc and get nothing useful, so what is your almighty suggestion |
| [22:31:00] | ** jarodwilson gets free goodies from work ** | |
| [22:31:00] | xris: | ZMorek: mysql --version? |
| [22:31:00] | ** jarodwilson got a dual G4/500 for nada ** | |
| [22:31:00] | ZMorek: | thanks |
| [22:31:00] | ZMorek: | I'm a newB, can ya tell? :-P |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | i'll stick to OS X on my G3 500MHz iBook :) |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | now ripping: Daft Punk – Discovery |
| [22:32:00] | jarodwilson: | Yeah, that's what mine usually runs, since I like being able to actually use sleep |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [22:32:00] | mchou: | Semhirage: other than irblaster, how is 150 working out for you? |
| [22:32:00] | Semhirage: | works fantastic |
| [22:32:00] | Semhirage: | took a bit of trickery with ivtv but got it working beautifully |
| [22:32:00] | mirak: | Beirdo: how can I know what is the good module ? |
| [22:32:00] | mchou: | Semhirage: where did you get it and how $? |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | hmm? |
| [22:32:00] | Semhirage: | picture is clear, sound is great |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | the "good" module? |
| [22:32:00] | Semhirage: | $80 USD @ circuit city |
| [22:33:00] | mchou: | ooh, pricy. |
| [22:33:00] | Beirdo: | I don't even know what you are trying to do, I can't possibly say |
| [22:33:00] | jarodwilson: | next to zero trickery here to get my 150 and 500 working... |
| [22:33:00] | mirak: | jarodwilson: I use ubuntu. It's a B&W G3 |
| [22:33:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: so 500 doesnt work for you yet? |
| [22:33:00] | mirak: | Beirdo: I told you, I need to know what tpe of device is it. what is the module for this device |
| [22:33:00] | jarodwilson: | kubuntu installed on my iBook, FC4 on a dual G4 desktop, OS X only my faster dual G4 |
| [22:33:00] | mirak: | type |
| [22:33:00] | jarodwilson: | 500 has been working for me for quite some time now |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: my 150 finally works with svideo. |
| [22:34:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: ahh, ok. |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | but haven't had time to upgrade my mythbox. |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | I fear reconfiguring lirc to control my Dish box. |
| [22:34:00] | Beirdo: | mirak: dmesg... and lsmod... |
| [22:34:00] | jarodwilson: | I saw there was a ton of ivtv work the week I was on vacation |
| [22:34:00] | mchou: | I guess I need fire the gun on 500 |
| [22:34:00] | Beirdo: | and lspci |
| [22:34:00] | Semhirage: | what programs are people using to control their ir-blaster, besides lirc |
| [22:35:00] | Beirdo: | I can't answer a vague question with anything but a vague answer |
| [22:35:00] | jarodwilson: | The D492 PVR-500 seems problematic, my D292 rev works perfectly tho |
| [22:35:00] | jarodwilson: | someone is sending me a D492 to muck with for a bit to see if I can figure out what the hell the difference is... |
| [22:35:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: how to tell difference?? |
| [22:35:00] | jarodwilson: | Sticker on the tuner casing |
| [22:35:00] | jarodwilson: | Might be on the packaging, not sure. |
| [22:35:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: ah, ok. |
| [22:36:00] | jarodwilson: | mine was a whitebox one, direct from Hauppauge. (Thank you, Axel) |
| [22:36:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: other than tuner, are there any other visible differnces like chps and whatnot? |
| [22:36:00] | mchou: | chips* |
| [22:37:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: obvious ones, that is :) |
| [22:38:00] | jarodwilson: | not sure, I haven't actually seen a D492 in person yet |
| [22:38:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: hmm, ok. |
| [22:38:00] | mchou: | damn hauppauge always has a million revs. |
| [22:38:00] | mirak: | Beirdo: lsusb you mean |
| [22:39:00] | mirak: | http://www.usbgear.com/usa/USB_Video_capture.html it's this device |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | oh |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | no clue then, I don't mess with USB stuff |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | likely lsusb if there is one |
| [22:39:00] | mirak: | it was given to me |
| [22:39:00] | jarodwilson: | Some folks have 'em working tho, so I'm not sure there really is any significant difference, could just be coincidence that more people with the (presumably newer) D492 have had trouble getting it to work. |
| [22:40:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: yeah..... |
| [22:40:00] | jarodwilson: | I'm guessing most D292 owners are dev types that have been hacking on their cards for a while |
| [22:40:00] | heckman: | D292 ? |
| [22:40:00] | mchou: | hehe, no doubt :) |
| [22:41:00] | jarodwilson: | rev D292 Hauppauge WinTV PVR-500MCE. |
| [22:42:00] | heckman: | dual tuner... nice. |
| [22:44:00] | mchou: | wow, CC has 150 for $60 after rebates right now (Retail) |
| [22:44:00] | xris: | mchou: nice |
| [22:44:00] | ** jarodwilson loves NetBackup ** | |
| [22:44:00] | mchou: | that's a good deal for retail. |
| [22:44:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: ? |
| [22:44:00] | ** xris needs a good backup program ** | |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | amanda does me well at home :) |
| [22:44:00] | jarodwilson: | we're rolling out NetBackup at work |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | but doesn't fit xris' needs |
| [22:44:00] | xris: | so I see |
| [22:44:00] | jarodwilson: | getting agents installed on Solaris and Linux boxes right now |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | Veritas NetBackup, I presume? |
| [22:45:00] | jarodwilson: | yah |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, that's what we use here |
| [22:45:00] | xris: | doesn't help me, either. |
| [22:45:00] | xris: | I may be stuck with dar |
| [22:45:00] | jarodwilson: | Complete with Oracle BLI |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [22:45:00] | ZMorek: | jarodwilson: your guide is amazing, thank you |
| [22:45:00] | jarodwilson: | :) |
| [22:45:00] | mchou: | xris: that's about how much you paid for your 150 OEM, correct? |
| [22:45:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: if you hadn't noticed, this channel is good for you ego. |
| [22:45:00] | ZMorek: | I finally have my mythbox running ok |
| [22:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hah |
| [22:45:00] | xris: | mchou: yeah. (mce, not oem) |
| [22:45:00] | ZMorek: | 8-) |
| [22:45:00] | jarodwilson: | xris: :D |
| [22:45:00] | mirak: | bye |
| [22:45:00] | ** xris thinks there should be an "r" in there somewhere. ** | |
| [22:46:00] | mchou: | xris: that didn't come with irblaster, right? |
| [22:46:00] | xris: | mchou: correct |
| [22:46:00] | xris: | just the card |
| [22:46:00] | xris: | mchou: link? |
| [22:46:00] | mchou: | http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Hauppauge-WinT . . . uctDetail.do |
| [22:46:00] | ZMorek: | I have one minor issue I'll post pics of later.... my myth menus are kinda glitchy |
| [22:46:00] | ZMorek: | but right now, I have to go to work :-( |
| [22:46:00] | mchou: | might have my session in it.... |
| [22:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Running 0.18? |
| [22:47:00] | mchou: | xris: so cc is not a bad deal then, correct? |
| [22:48:00] | Beirdo: | running CVS as of Sunday, I think |
| [22:48:00] | Beirdo: | so yeah, kinda |
| [22:48:00] | xris: | mchou: if you don't mind rebates, it's good |
| [22:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | How's it running for ya? I get home in 2 days and since I haven't been here to see any complaints about it I was curious :) |
| [22:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Obviously I wasn't willing to upgrade the night before I left home heh |
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| [22:49:00] | Beirdo: | it's been about as crashy for me as 0.17 and subsequent |
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| [22:49:00] | xris: | mchou: how do you pronounce your nick? |
| [22:49:00] | Beirdo: | I think I may have a localized heat issue around my tuners |
| [22:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Doh |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | when all three are recording, weird shit sometimes happens |
| [22:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been suspecting a heat issue in my backend as well |
| [22:50:00] | mchou: | xris: it's not meant to be pronounced :) It's my user name. |
| [22:50:00] | mchou: | too lazy to set up nick :) |
| [22:50:00] | xris: | how can I tell kormoc to look at the URL you pasted, then? |
| [22:50:00] | xris: | mmm-chou |
| [22:50:00] | mchou: | achoo?? :) |
| [22:50:00] | jarodwilson: | mmm-chew? |
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| [22:50:00] | david80: | hey guys, was wondering if you could help me with a problem Im having; trying to get my mythtv setup and working |
| [22:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, I think I could live over here. I've had a great time on this trip |
| [22:51:00] | david80: | I think I have got it all setup, but I am getting an error when I start up the mythfront end |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | david80: you're in the right place |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: bastard :) Take lots of pictures |
| [22:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have been :) |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | good :) |
| [22:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | And tomorrow I've off to Amsterdam |
| [22:51:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: cool |
| [22:52:00] | david80: | Its telling me "Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it. You likely won't get any video." |
| [22:52:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: where did you go for vacation? |
| [22:52:00] | ** xris wonders if there are any mythtv users in china. probably not. ** | |
| [22:52:00] | david80: | I get video, but its all in black and white |
| [22:52:00] | mchou: | xris: you bet :) |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | so you'll be stoned the rest of the week? |
| [22:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: http://pics.phaze.org/?album=albums/2005/04-1 . . . Central& |
| [22:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | And more from 04–18 |
| [22:52:00] | xris: | mchou: china proper? or pseudo-china like hong kong? |
| [22:52:00] | mchou: | in the heart of china :) |
| [22:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | mchou: In Brussels Belgium for work |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | ain't Europe grand? |
| [22:52:00] | david80: | any ideas? |
| [22:52:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: nice. |
| [22:52:00] | jarodwilson: | xris: actually, I helped a guy in China set up a box a while back |
| [22:53:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: only if you dont mind the high prices :) |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | david80: did you search the mailing list? |
| [22:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Had a bunch of Solaris machines to rack/setup for a demo for a company |
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| [22:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | And we finished early so we're off to Amsterdam for something to do |
| [22:53:00] | david80: | Beirdo:no, not sure how |
| [22:53:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: ooh. legal pot :) |
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| [22:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [22:54:00] | Beirdo: | david80: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ |
| [22:54:00] | mjc_: | hmm. myth could use a firewire recording plugin |
| [22:54:00] | mjc_: | have vhs tapes and a firewire vcr |
| [22:54:00] | david80: | k, thanks |
| [22:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | mchou: True, though not a big draw for me personally :) |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | not sure what causes that problem, but I'm sure I've seen it before on the lists, etc |
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| [22:55:00] | mchou: | anyone know if pvr150 can be made to work on 2.4 kernel? |
| [22:55:00] | mchou: | or is a kernel upgrade in my future? |
| [22:55:00] | mjc_: | mchou, you cna, but 2.4 sucks anyways ;) |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | mjc_: no it doesn't |
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| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | fuckin troll |
| [22:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | You sure? I thought the 150 required 0.3x of ivtv which had issues with 2.4 |
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| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | no, I mean 2.4 doesn't suck |
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| [22:56:00] | mchou: | yeah, last I heard it had some issues...... |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | wouldn't surprise me |
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| [22:56:00] | mchou: | but that was a long time ago. |
| [22:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: I was mentioning it to mjc, I agree 2.4 is fine for 99% of uses :) |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
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| [22:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | I only upgraded to 2.6 because of dvb driver stuff |
| [22:57:00] | mchou: | sigh, linux is too much work :( |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | just not for SATA :) |
| [22:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | welp, bedtime. heh Night |
| [22:57:00] | jarodwilson: | the 150 and 500 are supported by ivtv 0.2 also |
| [22:57:00] | mjc: | Beirdo, nor hyperthreading. |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | I'm now really debating to pick up this 150 from circuit city. |
| [22:58:00] | Beirdo: | hyperthreading. pah! |
| [22:58:00] | jarodwilson: | support was backported a while ago |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | looks like a real nice deal. |
| [22:58:00] | mjc: | mchou, can get the 500MCE online for $170 |
| [22:58:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: did you compile the .18 plugins in mdk 10.1? |
| [22:58:00] | mjc: | jarodwilson, it works, but it shows up as two cpus rather than a sibling |
| [22:58:00] | ** Beirdo strokes his cool and fast AMD64 ** | |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | mjc: the retail 150 is $60 after rebates. |
| [22:58:00] | mjc: | and the scheduler does not understand HT |
| [22:58:00] | ** jarodwilson runs nothing but 2.6 kernels at home now, but almost all boxes at work are still 2.4 ** | |
| [22:58:00] | mjc: | mchou, hmm, nice |
| [22:58:00] | jasoncohen: | i'm able to compile .18 but all the plugins fail with a sql error |
| [22:58:00] | ** jarodwilson loves my Athlon64 as well ** | |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: yeah, easy. |
| [22:59:00] | jarodwilson: | mjc: ? what shows up as what? |
| [22:59:00] | jarodwilson: | didn't follow the whole thread |
| [22:59:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: you saying 150 works on 2.4? |
| [22:59:00] | mjc: | jarodwilson, the 2.4 scheduler does not understand hyperthreading and simply treats the sibling (virtual cpu) as a full second cpu |
| [22:59:00] | Beirdo: | I really really should turn this down a bit |
| [22:59:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: can you tell me what mysql related rpms you have installed. I can't understand why .18 would compile but not the plugins and they all fail after a few seconds with a very similar sql error. I have all the deps installed. |
| [22:59:00] | mjc: | this means that under most multithreaded usage cases there is a decrease in performance rather than an increase |
| [22:59:00] | jarodwilson: | Oh, backporting... I was saying that 150 and 500 support was backported to 0.2, not anything about HT |
| [22:59:00] | jasoncohen: | or at least the ones on the online docs |
| [22:59:00] | mjc: | oh |
| [23:00:00] | mjc: | yes |
| [23:00:00] | mjc: | ;) |
| [23:00:00] | Beirdo: | mjc: just buy AMD64. :) |
| [23:00:00] | jarodwilson: | mchou: dunno if the 150 and 500 would work w/a 2.4 kernel, haven't had reason to try |
| [23:00:00] | mjc: | Beirdo, I have |
| [23:00:00] | jarodwilson: | should though, w/the 0.2 branch |
| [23:00:00] | mjc: | Beirdo, 2.4 on amd64 is terrible also |
| [23:00:00] | Beirdo: | I really need to finish rebuilding my mail server |
| [23:00:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: hey, them I'm off to CC :) |
| [23:01:00] | jarodwilson: | cool |
| [23:01:00] | mjc: | Beirdo, running a dual opteron 242 w/ 2GB RAM and 1.6TB for my backend |
| [23:01:00] | mjc: | ;) |
| [23:01:00] | marmoset: | heh, I got a 500-MCE from amazon for $140 just a few days ago, now they've gone up |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, overkill |
| [23:01:00] | jarodwilson: | holy overkill |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | make that your transcoding box :) |
| [23:01:00] | mjc: | it is transcoding also |
| [23:01:00] | jarodwilson: | I ran on a dual PIII-600 for a while, including HDTV recording |
| [23:01:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: libqt3-mysql-3.3.3–27.1.101mdk ~ libmysql12–4.0.20–3.4.101mdk ~ |
| [23:01:00] | mjc: | not overkill |
| [23:02:00] | mjc: | four HDTV inputs via firewire |
| [23:02:00] | jarodwilson: | I never transcode anything |
| [23:02:00] | mchou: | marmoset: thet didn't come with irblaster, did it? |
| [23:02:00] | jarodwilson: | dual PIII-600 handled 3 HDTV inputs just fine |
| [23:02:00] | marmoset: | mchou: don't think so, but not sure. won't be here until friday :) |
| [23:02:00] | Beirdo: | jarodwilson: I do... to make DVDs to archive ;) |
| [23:02:00] | mjc: | jarodwilson, simultaneous? |
| [23:02:00] | Beirdo: | and I use nuvexport, not mythtranscode |
| [23:02:00] | jarodwilson: | correction: I never transcode recordings |
| [23:03:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: same here |
| [23:03:00] | jarodwilson: | DVDs I transcode like a mutha |
| [23:03:00] | jarodwilson: | yes, three simultaneous HD recordings to a dual PIII-600 |
| [23:03:00] | jarodwilson: | recording takes next to zero cpu, its just a matter of dumping mpeg2 transport streams to disk |
| [23:03:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: you have 3 HD cards???? |
| [23:03:00] | jarodwilson: | DVDs I transcode on my workstation tho |
| [23:03:00] | jarodwilson: | four, actually |
| [23:03:00] | marmoset: | jarodwilson: that must be a 440bx chipset pIII-600 ;) |
| [23:03:00] | jarodwilson: | (but one is for a friend) |
| [23:03:00] | mchou: | lol. Rich guy here :) |
| [23:04:00] | Beirdo: | jarodwilson: that just rules |
| [23:04:00] | jarodwilson: | Asus P2B-DS |
| [23:04:00] | marmoset: | yup |
| [23:04:00] | marmoset: | those rocked |
| [23:04:00] | marmoset: | back when motherboards were actually stable ;) |
| [23:04:00] | Beirdo: | I'll be doing 3*PVR250 + 2*air2pc once they ship |
| [23:04:00] | jarodwilson: | I've got my cable box, an HD-2000 and an Air2PC card, plus my friend's HD-3000 right now |
| [23:04:00] | mchou: | hmm?? that only 3 HD cards :) |
| [23:04:00] | Beirdo: | plus the bttv and mjpeg cards in the dev box :) |
| [23:05:00] | jarodwilson: | I've also got a PVR-250, a PVR-350, a PVR-150, a PVR-500, two M179s, an AVerTV Studio, an MSI TV@nywhere, a Yuan MPG600GR... |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:05:00] | jarodwilson: | 4 HD sources |
| [23:05:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: you HW collector?? :) |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | my MSI TV@nywhere is still useless to my knowledge |
| [23:05:00] | jarodwilson: | but yes, only 3 cards, per se |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | is there a driver for it yet? |
| [23:05:00] | jarodwilson: | mchou: Yeah, kinda |
| [23:05:00] | jarodwilson: | cx88 |
| [23:05:00] | jarodwilson: | but yeah, mostly worthless tho |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | it does the silicon tuner now? |
| [23:06:00] | jarodwilson: | Been ages since I've played with it, but I can get audio and video off the tuner |
| [23:06:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [23:06:00] | Beirdo: | not that I really need the POS anyways |
| [23:06:00] | jarodwilson: | Yeah, I stick to hardware-encoding only |
| [23:06:00] | Beirdo: | it was the first tuner card I bought.. A LONG time ago |
| [23:06:00] | jarodwilson: | 2nd one I got |
| [23:06:00] | Beirdo: | I keep the bttv for test recordings |
| [23:06:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: cx88?? |
| [23:07:00] | jarodwilson: | First was a PVR-250 |
| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | cx88 |
| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | what about it? |
| [23:07:00] | jarodwilson: | Picked it up as possibly a cheap 2nd tuner, not realizing support was so crappy |
| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | craptacular |
| [23:07:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: it was your first card? |
| [23:07:00] | jarodwilson: | cx88 = Conexant cx2388x chipset |
| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | the MSI TV@nywhere |
| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | it was my first tuner. in 2002 |
| [23:08:00] | jarodwilson: | Actually, my first was an El Gato EyeTV (the original one) |
| [23:08:00] | mchou: | did it work for shit?? :) |
| [23:08:00] | Beirdo: | the first one for myth was a bttv card |
| [23:08:00] | Beirdo: | it would half-ass work in winblows if you used their software |
| [23:08:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: here are the errors when i try to compile mythvideo & mythdvd seperately |
| [23:08:00] | ** Beirdo rips George Carlin – Parental Advisory: Explicit Lyrics ** | |
| [23:09:00] | jasoncohen: | http://pastebin.com/273882 |
| [23:09:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: dope, read the damn error messages. |
| [23:09:00] | jasoncohen: | they look the same |
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| [23:11:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: use the top level ./configure in plugins. |
| [23:12:00] | jasoncohen: | i did that as well and it failed |
| [23:12:00] | xris: | marmoset: your guy just called back. |
| [23:12:00] | Semhirage: | wonderful, figured out the extent of my ir-blaster problem |
| [23:12:00] | marmoset: | xris: actually, me calling right now ;) |
| [23:12:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: then look in here for matching prototypes: /usr/local/include/mythtv/settings.h |
| [23:13:00] | mchou: | cause that seems like to be a weird dir for myth headers. |
| [23:13:00] | xris: | marmoset: oh. heh. |
| [23:14:00] | xris: | well thank you for getting Ken out of my office, then. |
| [23:14:00] | Semhirage: | after 20+ pages of google, i finally find out that even the dev's don't have it working on this card, so either need a serial cable, usb cable, or a homegrown serial ir-blaster |
| [23:14:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: that's probably some old cruft. |
| [23:14:00] | jarodwilson: | hehe... Ken... |
| [23:14:00] | xris: | lol |
| [23:14:00] | mchou: | Semhirage: you just figured that out? I could have told you that. |
| [23:14:00] | jarodwilson: | I still need to ping Dave, though if I have my choice... |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | google sounds like great job |
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| [23:15:00] | Semhirage: | good news is at least they are aware of the exact problem and are working on fixing it |
| [23:15:00] | Semhirage: | =D |
| [23:15:00] | mchou: | Semhirage: but trust me, they will have it working. |
| [23:16:00] | marmoset: | xris: got the approval for the two servers, ordering now ;) |
| [23:16:00] | Semhirage: | according to the lirc driver, it says the pvr150 hardware doesn't support ir-sending |
| [23:16:00] | mchou: | Semhirage: huh???? |
| [23:16:00] | jasoncohen: | what will i have to change in settings.h? It seems that main.cpp is missing functions for each of the plugins. |
| [23:17:00] | mchou: | Semhirage: that ridiculous. Then it's not an irblaster :) |
| [23:17:00] | xris: | marmoset: sweet. hope they work well for you (Ken's apparently been wanting to get you guys on board for awhile, though we're not sure his intentions are entirely financial, given your product) |
| [23:17:00] | Semhirage: | it is an ir-blaster, however the driver isn't seeing it that way, and the devs are trying figure out why it responds that way |
| [23:17:00] | marmoset: | haha |
| [23:18:00] | mchou: | Semhirage: ahh :) |
| [23:18:00] | jarodwilson: | PHAT. |
| [23:18:00] | Semhirage: | the hardware actually supports it, just not the driver yet |
| [23:18:00] | xris: | we've been giving him a hard time (he's obsessed with sex) about wanting to get free logins, etc. heh. |
| [23:18:00] | Semhirage: | so for now the driver says the hardware doesn't work that wya |
| [23:18:00] | jarodwilson: | xris: On-site interview with that company that now has offices in Kirkland... |
| [23:18:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: awesome |
| [23:19:00] | xris: | still a nasty commute for you, though |
| [23:19:00] | jarodwilson: | (and sounds very likely for the Cingular one also) |
| [23:19:00] | jarodwilson: | yeah, still 1hr of crap each way, most likely |
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| [23:19:00] | xris: | I drove 405 for about 9 months (tacoma to redmond). sucks. |
| [23:19:00] | jarodwilson: | I used to work in Kirkland |
| [23:19:00] | jarodwilson: | esh |
| [23:19:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: what am i missing? you seem to be suggesting that there's an easy fix but I'm not sure how. |
| [23:19:00] | xris: | I like my 3.95 mile commute now. :) |
| [23:20:00] | mchou: | So guys, you like the picture quality on 150 tuner? |
| [23:20:00] | jarodwilson: | MV to Kirkland isn't terrible if you know all the back roads and avoid peak traffic hours |
| [23:20:00] | xris: | mchou: yeah, it's great |
| [23:20:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: that's good, then. |
| [23:20:00] | jarodwilson: | But yeah, I'd prefer a 3.95 |
| [23:20:00] | mchou: | xris: not much noise?? |
| [23:20:00] | mchou: | crisp? |
| [23:20:00] | xris: | mchou: way better than my pctv pro |
| [23:20:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: well, you have a nicer house that cost less than mine. :) |
| [23:20:00] | mchou: | xris: hehe, yeah, I bet.... |
| [23:20:00] | jarodwilson: | moving is high on the wish list following a change... |
| [23:21:00] | xris: | I bet, especially with kid #2 on the way. |
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| [23:21:00] | jarodwilson: | yeah, I'll miss the size of my house, since comparable size is probably 2x the cost in Kirkland... |
| [23:21:00] | xris: | yeah. |
| [23:21:00] | xris: | redmond wouldn't be that bad. or slightly further north. |
| [23:21:00] | jarodwilson: | Though I did find a halfway reasonable place about 1.2mi from both |
| [23:21:00] | xris: | king county is overly inflated at the moment, though. no one is selling. |
| [23:22:00] | jarodwilson: | I could do Redmond or Bothell |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | stay outta Redmond in case someone nukes MS |
| [23:22:00] | jarodwilson: | :D |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | with a small nuke of course :) |
| [23:23:00] | ** xris realizes that he meant renton, not redmond. ** | |
| [23:23:00] | xris: | but I guess renton isn't that much closer than MV |
| [23:23:00] | jarodwilson: | Oh no, Renton is much closer |
| [23:23:00] | jarodwilson: | I drive through Renton (sort of) every day going home. |
| [23:23:00] | jarodwilson: | MV is about 15 miles SE of Renton |
| [23:24:00] | xris: | nice places out on 90, too... small towns around issaquah, etc |
| [23:24:00] | ** Beirdo likes his < 1 mile commute ** | |
| [23:24:00] | jarodwilson: | My wife really likes Issaquah |
| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | one of the few good things about living downtown |
| [23:24:00] | xris: | yeah. we thought about living out there. too far from the city, though. |
| [23:24:00] | jarodwilson: | We may look for something in the Issaquah highlands |
| [23:24:00] | jarodwilson: | I-90 moves pretty fast tho |
| [23:24:00] | xris: | my wife needs to be close since any restaurants she'll work at will be *in* the city. |
| [23:25:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, you better be walkin is all I gotta say :) |
| [23:25:00] | jarodwilson: | ah |
| [23:25:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: about half the time :) |
| [23:25:00] | xris: | of course, she's currently at Salty's on Alki, which isn't in the city, but close enough. |
| [23:25:00] | Beirdo: | the other half is public transit or taxi when I'm really late |
| [23:25:00] | jasoncohen: | can someone help me with my plugin compilation problems in mdk 10.1? I have all the dependencies installed. |
| [23:26:00] | jarodwilson: | West Seattle is another place we sorta like. |
| [23:26:00] | Beirdo: | and what would the problem be? |
| [23:26:00] | jasoncohen: | i don't understand what i'm supposed to do with these errors – http://pastebin.com/273882 |
| [23:26:00] | marmoset: | xris: heh, we were dealing with a vendor out of canada a couple years ago for a really large storage system, and he said "so, uh, are you in the, uh, lady's business?" |
| [23:26:00] | jarodwilson: | But not so hot for a commute to Kirkland or Redmond. |
| [23:26:00] | xris: | marmoset: lol. |
| [23:26:00] | xris: | friend of mine got a job with you guys a few years ago. he lasted 2 days before he quit. |
| [23:26:00] | jarodwilson: | Heh |
| [23:26:00] | xris: | we don't care. I mean, we sell to microsoft, so we can't get much worse. |
| [23:27:00] | Beirdo: | dunno, jasoncohen. I don't do mythdvd |
| [23:27:00] | marmoset: | xris: heh, who's that? |
| [23:27:00] | jarodwilson: | I'll have been here a year as of next Monday |
| [23:27:00] | xris: | marmoset: his name is Sorin (no last name), he was trying to get work doing UI design back then. he's a manager at Real now. |
| [23:28:00] | jasoncohen: | Beirdo: i'm getting the same erorr with mythvideo & every other plugin |
| [23:28:00] | marmoset: | xris: oh, hmm, don't think I knew him. much bigger company back then (the CEO's main goal was to get huge) |
| [23:28:00] | Beirdo: | did you make install the mythtv part first? |
| [23:28:00] | xris: | well, like I said, he couldn't handle the content and didn't last more than a day or two. |
| [23:28:00] | marmoset: | we were up to like 110 people at one point, we've got like 30 now |
| [23:28:00] | Beirdo: | marmoset: viagra for the company |
| [23:28:00] | marmoset: | hehe |
| [23:28:00] | jasoncohen: | Beirdo: oh...no |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | do that |
| [23:29:00] | Gumby: | has anyone here ever used an ati theater 550 pro based card in linux? Curious of any experiences with it |
| [23:29:00] | jasoncohen: | Beirdo: i thought i could compile them seperately |
| [23:29:00] | Beirdo: | you need to build and install mythtv before the plugins, I'm fairly sure |
| [23:29:00] | jasoncohen: | ah |
| [23:29:00] | jasoncohen: | that would explain it |
| [23:30:00] | jarodwilson: | I'm more than fairly sure, you definitely need to |
| [23:30:00] | jasoncohen: | thanks Beirdo |
| [23:30:00] | jasoncohen: | did you with .17? |
| [23:30:00] | jarodwilson: | Most of the plugins need access to libmyth |
| [23:31:00] | Beirdo: | no, I'm using CVS as of about Sunday |
| [23:31:00] | Beirdo: | may have been Saturday, I can't remember |
| [23:31:00] | jarodwilson: | Show of hands: how many people want Subversion! :D |
| [23:31:00] | Beirdo: | I've been using CVS since last October |
| [23:32:00] | jasoncohen: | i don't remember doing that with .17 |
| [23:32:00] | ** Beirdo raises his hand ** | |
| [23:32:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:32:00] | Beirdo: | trac rules |
| [23:32:00] | ** jarodwilson raises both hands ** | |
| [23:32:00] | jarodwilson: | One way or another, I hope to have a more or less in-sync svn mirror soon... |
| [23:33:00] | kormoc: | subversion rocks |
| [23:33:00] | jarodwilson: | Ugh, we shoulda put the damned NBU server on a UNIX box... |
| [23:34:00] | jasoncohen: | Beirdo: thanks- it's working now |
| [23:35:00] | Beirdo: | No problem |
| [23:35:00] | Beirdo: | jarodwilson: just make sure you're waving with all your fingers |
| [23:35:00] | ** xris raises both hands. ** | |
| [23:35:00] | jarodwilson: | :D |
| [23:36:00] | jarodwilson: | I think some of us are Sure. |
| [23:36:00] | jarodwilson: | Worst-case, I'll hack something together that takes emails from the -commits list to check in changes to svn |
| [23:36:00] | jarodwilson: | best-case, I'll be rsyncing the actual cvs repo files and using cvs2svn on a regular basis |
| [23:36:00] | xris: | jarodwilson: shouldn't be hard to set up svk |
| [23:37:00] | xris: | it can read from cvs |
| [23:37:00] | jarodwilson: | I read a little bit about that last night... |
| [23:37:00] | xris: | and then svn2cvs will happily commit svn changes back to cvs. |
| [23:37:00] | jarodwilson: | hm... |
| [23:37:00] | xris: | (that was a piece of cake to set up) |
| [23:37:00] | xris: | ./svn2cvs.pl \ |
| [23:37:00] | xris: | svn+//xris@svn.forevermore.net/var/svn/nuvexport/trunk" rel="nofollow">ssh://xris@svn.forevermore.net/var/svn/nuvexport/trunk \ |
| [23:37:00] | xris: | :ext:xris@cvs.mythtv.org :/var/lib/mythcvs \ |
| [23:37:00] | xris: | nuvexport |
| [23:37:00] | xris: | I mean REALLY easy. |
| [23:38:00] | jarodwilson: | got any pointers for setting up the svk part? |
| [23:38:00] | xris: | no, but people on #svn are helpful |
| [23:38:00] | xris: | they're the ones pushing svk, actually |
| [23:38:00] | xris: | I haven't had time to look into it. |
| [23:38:00] | jarodwilson: | I'm guessing its going to be getting a bigger push w/the recent bk license changes... |
| [23:38:00] | xris: | you're about 3 projects ahead of me on such things (including open-xchange) |
| [23:39:00] | jarodwilson: | :) |
| [23:39:00] | xris: | isaac is a perforce fan |
| [23:39:00] | jarodwilson: | devs at my last job REALLY like p4 too |
| [23:39:00] | xris: | but according to those on #svn, svk is more featureful than darcs, so that's at least one point in its favor |
| [23:40:00] | jarodwilson: | I'm actually probably going to move from OX to Hula at some point. I just don't need everything OX does... |
| [23:40:00] | xris: | and svk can interact read-only with p4, too. |
| [23:40:00] | xris: | hula? |
| [23:40:00] | jarodwilson: | hula-project.org |
| [23:40:00] | jarodwilson: | Novell open-source NetMail |
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| [23:42:00] | jarodwilson: | open-sourced, that is |
| [23:42:00] | xris: | hmm |
| [23:43:00] | xris: | (less confused — I read OSX, not OX) |
| [23:43:00] | jarodwilson: | ah |
| [23:43:00] | jarodwilson: | yes, OpenXchange to Hula. :) |
| [23:43:00] | xris: | we're looking for a groupware system here.. Dave was looking at the Suse one (which is based on OX). |
| [23:44:00] | marmoset: | OX looked like a beast, we told a customer we wouldn't support it ;) |
| [23:44:00] | marmoset: | but we're a webhost, not an IT company |
| [23:44:00] | jarodwilson: | SLOX is pretty good |
| [23:44:00] | jarodwilson: | SUSE has done a ton of work on top of OX to make it MUCH easier to manage |
| [23:44:00] | xris: | ahh, I'll mention that to dave. |
| [23:45:00] | jarodwilson: | All the user management on straigh OX is (or at least was, last I looked) cli-based |
| [23:45:00] | xris: | ah, ick |
| [23:45:00] | jarodwilson: | with cryptic ldap crap |
| [23:45:00] | xris: | hula looks nice and easy. does it support ical and stuff like that so you don't have to use the web interface/ |
| [23:45:00] | xris: | ? |
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| [23:45:00] | jarodwilson: | Somewhere around here, I have SLOX 4.1 CDs... |
| [23:45:00] | jarodwilson: | Yeah, hula does ical |
| [23:46:00] | jarodwilson: | ical for calendars, imap for email, ldap for addy book, etc |
| [23:46:00] | xris: | cool. |
| [23:46:00] | xris: | will have to look into it. |
| [23:46:00] | xris: | OX did look like a beast. |
| [23:46:00] | jarodwilson: | OX is probably closer to production-ready ATM |
| [23:46:00] | jarodwilson: | but Hula is coming along pretty quickly |
| [23:46:00] | xris: | yeah, seemed that way. |
| [23:46:00] | xris: | hula looks nicer for home use, though. better than something like Horde, which I'd been using before my upgrade to fc3 |
| [23:47:00] | jarodwilson: | Novell is still scrubbing some of the NetMail code, I believe the address book stuff still needs some hacking to work with OpenLDAP |
| [23:47:00] | jarodwilson: | (currently works w/oldskool UMich LDAP and eDirectory, IIRC) |
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| [23:47:00] | xris: | ah |
| [23:48:00] | xris: | interesting that novel is pushing open netmail on one hand, and suse's OX on the other. |
| [23:48:00] | jasoncohen: | does the auto-flagging when a show starts work for hardware tuners or only for software tuners? |
| [23:48:00] | jarodwilson: | yeah, Novell and SUSE still don't quite seem in sync with one another yet... |
| [23:50:00] | mjc: | great, .17 is segfaulting during prescaling images |
| [23:51:00] | awb4422: | SuSE's OX is very old though, and same with netmail... where/how is novell pushing them? |
| [23:51:00] | awb4422: | It seems to me that they are just "offering" them |
| [23:52:00] | jarodwilson: | NetMail is oldish, yes, but they've open-sourced it, and are pushing it under the Hula Project |
| [23:52:00] | jarodwilson: | SLOX isn't extremely old |
| [23:52:00] | jasoncohen: | so, does anyone know if auto-flagging after after a show starts works with hardware tuners? |
| [23:52:00] | jarodwilson: | Its a SLES9-based server, I believe. |
| [23:52:00] | awb4422: | hula is still in its infancy, they aren't selling it yet |
| [23:52:00] | awb4422: | SLOX is SLES8 |
| [23:52:00] | jasoncohen: | Beirdo: thanks again...i wouldn't have thought of something that simple. |
| [23:52:00] | awb4422: | SLOX 4.1 |
| [23:52:00] | jarodwilson: | I know, I said that (re: hula) |
| [23:53:00] | jarodwilson: | Ah, I thought they'd moved to 9 |
| [23:53:00] | awb4422: | yeah im not trying to argue lol |
| [23:53:00] | jasoncohen: | and i also remember compiling .17 and .17 plugins before installing either |
| [23:53:00] | awb4422: | well, last time I use SLOX, it was still pretty ghettoish |
| [23:53:00] | jarodwilson: | Unfortunately, its still hard to beat an Exchange server. |
| [23:54:00] | awb4422: | yeah |
| [23:54:00] | awb4422: | not many product offerings that have such a tight knit client-server product that actually work |
| [23:54:00] | jarodwilson: | Though I'd like to play with GroupWare some more... |
| [23:54:00] | awb4422: | GroupWise you mean? |
| [23:54:00] | jarodwilson: | argh |
| [23:54:00] | jarodwilson: | yeah |
| [23:54:00] | jarodwilson: | that |
| [23:54:00] | awb4422: | it doesn't look very polished, but it works... |
| [23:55:00] | awb4422: | on my LAN it was great, but over the WAN it totally killed my laptop |
| [23:55:00] | awb4422: | switched over the thunderbird and lost all the groupware functionality :/ |
| [23:55:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: what are my chances of getting m179 and 150 working on 2.4 box? :) |
| [23:55:00] | jarodwilson: | hm... |
| [23:56:00] | jarodwilson: | I had dual 179 cards working on a 2.4 kernel, haven't ever tried a 150 or 500 tho |
| [23:56:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou: thanks for trying to help. The only issue was that I hadn't compiled .18 |
| [23:56:00] | jasoncohen: | *woops, i mean i hadn't installed .18 |
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| [23:56:00] | mchou: | jarodwilson: different firmware files, no? |
| [23:56:00] | awb4422: | hey jarod – I'mt not sure if you remember this, but I e-mailed you a few weeks ago about myth and ubuntu... |
| [23:57:00] | jarodwilson: | nope, should be able to use the same encoder firmware for both, and only the 150 needs the HcwMakoA.rom file |
| [23:57:00] | awb4422: | its extremely easy to get going |
| [23:57:00] | jarodwilson: | awb4422: yeah, okay, I remember |
| [23:57:00] | jarodwilson: | Cool. |
| [23:58:00] | awb4422: | if ubuntu worked on their installer, i'd say it was way easier than fedora to get working |
| [23:59:00] | Beirdo: | It was bloody easy for me with ubuntu |
| [23:59:00] | jarodwilson: | yeah, the installer still leaves something to be desired, esp. if you've got several disks and want to so sw raid and/or lvm... |
| [23:59:00] | jarodwilson: | Its bloody easy for me with both FC and Ubu |
| [23:59:00] | jarodwilson: | :D |
| [23:59:00] | awb4422: | heh, but you're "the man" when it comes to FC and myth |
| [23:59:00] | Beirdo: | heh :) |
| [23:59:00] | Beirdo: | he's the man that showed us the way |
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