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| [00:00:00] | phlegm: | No errors? |
| [00:00:00] | DJ_Rican: | No core pointer.... |
| [00:00:00] | ikaro: | phlegm, im using tv_grab_dk to fetch the program guide, and afterwards run the filldb |
| [00:00:00] | ikaro: | phlegm, not really.. |
| [00:00:00] | DJ_Rican: | is all i see at the end of the file... |
| [00:01:00] | phlegm: | DJ_Rican: usually that's a mouse problem. |
| [00:01:00] | DJ_Rican: | so...connect a mouse and reboot? |
| [00:01:00] | DJ_Rican: | i've had this system without one forever |
| [00:02:00] | phlegm: | Weird.... I'd try connecting one first just to see what happens. |
| [00:02:00] | DJ_Rican: | ok |
| [00:03:00] | phlegm: | ikaro: if you start myth from a command line then go into the program guide do you see any errors? |
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| [00:03:00] | DJ_Rican: | booting now |
| [00:03:00] | phlegm: | cool... |
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| [00:04:00] | ikaro: | phlegm, 2sek .. ill paste in online. |
| [00:04:00] | DJ_Rican: | hmm... when booting it says error on my eth0, but i can connect to the system after it boots... |
| [00:05:00] | DJ_Rican: | SOAB!!! it's working! |
| [00:05:00] | phlegm: | DJ_Rican: did it boot into kde this time? |
| [00:06:00] | phlegm: | Whoo Hoo.... |
| [00:06:00] | DJ_Rican: | what gives?? |
| [00:06:00] | phlegm: | Who knows... |
| [00:06:00] | ikaro: | phlegm, http://pastebin.com/273037 |
| [00:07:00] | DJ_Rican: | it weird because i have rebooted it before without a mouse |
| [00:08:00] | phlegm: | DJ_Rican: Glad to have helped. ikaro , I have to run the inlaws just showed up. Hopefully somebody else can help out.... Sorry man. |
| [00:08:00] | ikaro: | phlegm, looks like problems with the fonts ?? |
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| [00:08:00] | DJ_Rican: | thanks dude! |
| [00:08:00] | ikaro: | oh ok. |
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| [00:35:00] | defaultro: | good afternoon guys |
| [00:35:00] | defaultro: | quick question about recording |
| [00:36:00] | kormoc: | boot, boot badda boot. |
| [00:36:00] | defaultro: | hi kormoc, what's up? |
| [00:36:00] | kormoc: | not too much, how are you? |
| [00:37:00] | defaultro: | currently, i have one air2pc card. I'm recording a show that is on 9:00–9:30 then another show at 9:30–10:00 |
| [00:37:00] | defaultro: | unfortunately, the first show get stopped |
| [00:37:00] | defaultro: | and starts at 9:30 for the other show |
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| [00:38:00] | iggy: | it has a higher priority |
| [00:38:00] | defaultro: | let say, i add another card, will my new setting w/c is stop after 5 minutes work? |
| [00:38:00] | Semhirage: | is there a good tutorial anywhere on setting up lirc to control an external cable box |
| [00:38:00] | iggy: | oh, nvm, I read that as 9:00–10:00 |
| [00:38:00] | defaultro: | :) that's 2 shows |
| [00:38:00] | defaultro: | so i ordered another card today |
| [00:39:00] | iggy: | yeah, I meant I read the first range as that |
| [00:39:00] | defaultro: | i modified that show so that it stops after 5 minutes |
| [00:39:00] | defaultro: | this way, it will be able to complete the show |
| [00:39:00] | iggy: | it will use the other card if you set them with the same priority |
| [00:39:00] | defaultro: | how do I do that? |
| [00:39:00] | iggy: | um, I don't know offhand, but it's in mythsetup where you setup the cards |
| [00:40:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [00:40:00] | iggy: | defaultro: how do you like the air2pc? where are you? |
| [00:40:00] | defaultro: | oh, im getting a second one |
| [00:40:00] | defaultro: | that means, i love it |
| [00:40:00] | defaultro: | im in IL |
| [00:40:00] | iggy: | nah, that just means there's nothing better (in your price range, etc.) |
| [00:40:00] | defaultro: | gotcha |
| [00:41:00] | iggy: | you get many channels? |
| [00:41:00] | defaultro: | what are you currently using? |
| [00:41:00] | defaultro: | i get enough channels |
| [00:41:00] | defaultro: | i receive cbs,nbc,abc,pbs,wtvo,fox |
| [00:41:00] | defaultro: | there's another 5 or 6 more that i don't recall |
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| [00:42:00] | defaultro: | wgn |
| [00:42:00] | defaultro: | higher channels are Spanish |
| [00:42:00] | iggy: | I've been considering buying an air2pc card, and and a dvb to test it out |
| [00:42:00] | defaultro: | WCIU |
| [00:42:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [00:42:00] | defaultro: | i've been happy with my current setup |
| [00:43:00] | defaultro: | i have a good signal in my area |
| [00:43:00] | defaultro: | eventhough im a bout 43 miles from tower |
| [00:43:00] | defaultro: | rotor helped a lot |
| [00:43:00] | iggy: | rotor? |
| [00:43:00] | defaultro: | yep, antenna rotator |
| [00:43:00] | iggy: | oh |
| [00:44:00] | defaultro: | but i wish, we could record comcast's digital channels |
| [00:44:00] | defaultro: | even after the bf |
| [00:45:00] | iggy: | yeah, kinda wish I could get one of those nice 1394 cable boxes, but my cable company blows |
| [00:45:00] | defaultro: | so you are saying that if i set both with the same priority, i will get rid of my problem? |
| [00:45:00] | defaultro: | yeah, that 6200 or 6412 |
| [00:45:00] | defaultro: | but looks like those big vendor know what we are up to |
| [00:45:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [00:45:00] | iggy: | yes (re: getting rid of your problem) |
| [00:46:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [00:46:00] | defaultro: | when are you getting your card? |
| [00:46:00] | defaultro: | make sure you get it before july 1 |
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| [00:48:00] | DJ_Rican: | ttyl guys and gals... thanks for everything |
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| [01:36:00] | ByteNik: | I can't find anything on the forums about this.... does anyone have zap2it listings working for their air2pc atsc channels? |
| [01:36:00] | ByteNik: | and if so, how did you do it? |
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| [01:48:00] | phlegm: | Anybody know how to get mythmovietimes working. The enourmous_penis password doesn't work anymore. |
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| [01:51:00] | jams: | bytenik if they list your hd channels just add them to another lineup. Then in the channel editor use the xmlid to tie the zap2it listing and the air2pc transport together |
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| [01:52:00] | ByteNik: | Okay, I knew you could do that actually... I was kinda hoping there was an easier way |
| [01:52:00] | ByteNik: | I get ~20 or so hdtv channels here |
| [01:52:00] | ByteNik: | mapping them is a pain |
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| [02:02:00] | Icemaann: | once i have compiled with opengl-vsync support to I need to enable it somewhere? The log shows it still using the sleep wait timing |
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| [02:11:00] | monrad: | how should i setup sound with the pvr-350 |
| [02:11:00] | monrad: | i guess that cable that comes out of the scart cable should go into the soundcards line-in |
| [02:11:00] | monrad: | but that only gives static |
| [02:12:00] | xris: | monrad: try the line-in on the pvr-350 |
| [02:12:00] | xris: | or directly through the rf plug |
| [02:15:00] | monrad: | hmm ok |
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| [02:20:00] | xris: | monrad: the whole point of the hardware encoder cards is that they encode everything for you. |
| [02:21:00] | monrad: | yeah i know that |
| [02:21:00] | HRearden: | I'm trying to write a script to move my HDTV files from one slave backend to another after they are recorded. From what I can tell, the only table that would need to be updated would be "recorded". So, I could just physically move the file and update then one column and be good to go, right? |
| [02:21:00] | xris: | HRearden: I think so |
| [02:22:00] | monrad: | but when i use hardware encoding i get sound on the tv when i dont i get sound on my soundcard |
| [02:23:00] | xris: | if you don't use hardware encoding, you won't get sound recorded, period. |
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| [02:24:00] | HRearden: | I'm assuming that the custom jobqueue jobs execute in sequence and all after commercial flagging, right? |
| [02:24:00] | DJ_Rican: | hello... what's the port to see my schedule recordings? 6543? |
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| [02:26:00] | HRearden: | DJ_Rican: try 6544. |
| [02:26:00] | DJ_Rican: | k |
| [02:27:00] | monrad: | xris, i ment decoding |
| [02:27:00] | monrad: | maybe sleep would also help :) |
| [02:27:00] | DJ_Rican: | still nothing.... :( |
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| [02:27:00] | xris: | monrad: that's likely an issue with your output settings. |
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| [02:27:00] | xris: | you definitely want the sound recorded into the mpeg2 file along with the video, though. |
| [02:27:00] | DJ_Rican: | HRearden: nm... that worked... thanks |
| [02:28:00] | HRearden: | DJ_Rican, you could have crashed mythbackend with trying stuff on 6543. |
| [02:29:00] | DJ_Rican: | ack... anyone know how to change the system time from a command line in MDK? |
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| [02:32:00] | mchou: | DJ_Rican: man date |
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| [02:40:00] | rw: | I am now watching live tv. But let's say I have it paused and everything that is recorded I would like to save. Is it possible? |
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| [02:43:00] | DJ_Rican: | no... why don't you just record while watching... |
| [02:43:00] | DJ_Rican: | ? |
| [02:44:00] | DJ_Rican: | it won't save what it has in cache tho... |
| [02:46:00] | rw: | DJ_Rican, because it's a diferent situation. I was watching and then I saw something that I wanna say. It may be 3 seconds of a commercial or 2 hours. |
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| [02:50:00] | cinix: | okay which table would hold the datadirect username and password |
| [02:53:00] | cinix: | so I found it, n/m |
| [02:53:00] | cinix: | now I'm trying to learn enough sql to view it |
| [02:54:00] | jemarcks_: | mythtv setup question... I have a new box im installing FC3 on using Jarods guide. I have a quesion about setting the /video partition. |
| [02:55:00] | jemarcks_: | Jarods guide says to make hda5 the /video partition format xfs but i should set it up as a LVM if i want to expand it later. |
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| [02:56:00] | jemarcks_: | I dont see a 'xfs' type in druid |
| [02:57:00] | jemarcks_: | and... if i pick LVM type for the filesystem, i cant name it |
| [02:57:00] | jemarcks_: | help! |
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| [03:08:00] | Agrajag-: | rw: i suppose you could copy the buffer nuv file somewhere |
| [03:08:00] | Agrajag-: | you wont be able to play that in myth (unless you manually create the db entries for it and name it correctly) |
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| [03:09:00] | Agrajag-: | but could play it in mplayer or convert it to something else |
| [03:09:00] | rw: | Agrajag-, yeah I know, I was just thinking if this feature is already implemented. |
| [03:09:00] | rw: | Agrajag-, would be an intersting one. I will write it down. |
| [03:09:00] | Agrajag-: | im pretty sure it's been discussed before |
| [03:10:00] | rw: | Any better comments about it or nobody had time do hack it? |
| [03:10:00] | Agrajag-: | can't really remember the outcome |
| [03:10:00] | rw: | better = bad |
| [03:10:00] | Agrajag-: | i thikn people generally just said if you think you might want to do that, start recording and just watch the recording |
| [03:10:00] | Agrajag-: | and something about live tv becoming more like a normal recording eventually |
| [03:11:00] | rw: | That works for some people, but not for all... |
| [03:11:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah i know |
| [03:11:00] | Agrajag-: | search the list archives |
| [03:12:00] | rw: | yeah I am just writing down. The project has been aproved and 1st of next month I will start working full time on mythtv. |
| [03:12:00] | rw: | Writing down some intersting things I miss. |
| [03:12:00] | Agrajag-: | what project? |
| [03:13:00] | rw: | mythtv appliance. |
| [03:13:00] | rw: | in my country. |
| [03:13:00] | Agrajag-: | ah ok cool |
| [03:13:00] | rw: | but of course all the contributions will be planned to go in the main tree. |
| [03:14:00] | Agrajag-: | sounds good : |
| [03:14:00] | Agrajag-: | :) |
| [03:14:00] | rw: | so everybody earn it |
| [03:14:00] | rw: | wins |
| [03:14:00] | rw: | whatever... |
| [03:14:00] | rw: | well, I gotta go now. |
| [03:14:00] | rw: | bye |
| [03:14:00] | Agrajag-: | ok, cya |
| [03:14:00] | rw: | hey! |
| [03:14:00] | rw: | you're in .au, do you know HMC? |
| [03:16:00] | Agrajag-: | rings a bell |
| [03:16:00] | rw: | mythtv appliance in .au! |
| [03:16:00] | oneo: | anyone seen this error while trying to compile mythtv: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lartsc? i tried ./configure --disable-audio-arts but it still gives me the error |
| [03:16:00] | rw: | check it out: |
| [03:17:00] | Agrajag-: | i've heard of d1.com.au |
| [03:17:00] | Agrajag-: | which i believe is a mythtv appliance |
| [03:17:00] | rw: | http://www.d1.com.au/hmc/ |
| [03:17:00] | Agrajag-: | oh |
| [03:17:00] | rw: | that's it. |
| [03:17:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah, i know about that |
| [03:17:00] | rw: | Have you seen one working? What have you heard about it? |
| [03:17:00] | Agrajag-: | oneo: disable arts |
| [03:18:00] | Agrajag-: | rw: nah, i haven't seen one – all i've heard about it is about the grabber they provide |
| [03:18:00] | rw: | Agrajag-, got it... |
| [03:18:00] | rw: | ok. We talk later then. bye bye. |
| [03:18:00] | Agrajag-: | ok, cya, good luck :) |
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| [03:23:00] | carol: | can anyone help me setup channels |
| [03:24:00] | oneo: | Agrajag- how do i disable arts? |
| [03:25:00] | oneo: | i tried that configure option i mentioned above and it still gives me that error |
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| [03:33:00] | jemarcks_: | what do yall think of knoppmyth ? |
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| [03:56:00] | Agrajag-: | oneo: after doing --disable-audio-arts did you run qmake again? |
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| [04:02:00] | xanderp: | anyone here use bluetooth keyboard/mouse in linux? I can't figure out how to get them to 'automatically' be paired/partnered with my gentoo box so that I don't have to manually run hidd --search every time I want to use my kb/mouse |
| [04:02:00] | littlewashu: | sup |
| [04:05:00] | Cromz: | so.. what's the good word for tonight? |
| [04:06:00] | littlewashu: | god? |
| [04:06:00] | Cromz: | hmm ok |
| [04:06:00] | Cromz: | I was saying that alot yesterday.. 'good god! what is going on with this thing!' |
| [04:06:00] | littlewashu: | yes, respect the almightey and you will walk forever in the kingdome of heaven |
| [04:07:00] | littlewashu: | don't use his name in vain |
| [04:07:00] | Cromz: | that wasn't in vain.. it was in pain.. |
| [04:07:00] | littlewashu: | pray for forgiveness with me |
| [04:07:00] | ** littlewashu Kneels down ** | |
| [04:07:00] | littlewashu: | our father, lord in heaven, hollow be thy name. |
| [04:08:00] | littlewashu: | ect... ect....., amen |
| [04:08:00] | Cromz: | heh |
| [04:08:00] | littlewashu: | Seriously though, i'm sick :0( |
| [04:08:00] | Cromz: | you forgot one.. and please give Myth to everyone |
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| [04:08:00] | littlewashu: | hehe, o yeha, the most important one |
| [04:09:00] | Cromz: | er.. please give a easy to make work myth to everyone :> |
| [04:09:00] | littlewashu: | amen |
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| [04:09:00] | Grooby: | hello |
| [04:09:00] | littlewashu: | jello |
| [04:10:00] | Cromz: | ok, anyone know irxevent good? can I send the stuff to mythtv er.. mythfrontend and make it work. hmm I should try that cause I think I told it to go to mythtv and not mythfrontend. |
| [04:11:00] | littlewashu: | ?, that's way over my head |
| [04:11:00] | Grooby: | can someone help me out a little bit? I have alsa 1.0.8 and I have everything working except mythmusic |
| [04:11:00] | Grooby: | i got sb live + spdif daughterboard |
| [04:11:00] | Grooby: | what do i need to set the audio hardware to to get sound? |
| [04:12:00] | Agrajag-: | when you say "everything working".. do you get sound from other apps? |
| [04:12:00] | Grooby: | yeah |
| [04:12:00] | Grooby: | live tv/ recording/mythvideo |
| [04:12:00] | Grooby: | all coax digital out to a receiver |
| [04:12:00] | Grooby: | even have AC3 |
| [04:12:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm well i dont see why mythmusic wouldn't be giving you anything |
| [04:12:00] | Agrajag-: | unless you've turned volume right down or something |
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| [04:13:00] | Grooby: | if I add "options snd-pcm-oss adsp_map=2" to my alsa module file |
| [04:13:00] | Grooby: | i can get sound from /dev/adsp |
| [04:13:00] | Grooby: | but there are a lot of pops |
| [04:13:00] | jams: | Cromz, http://www.pastebin.com/273117 |
| [04:15:00] | Cromz: | jams: ya.. but that sends it to CurrentWindow and myth is 9 times out of 10 not the current window :( only draw back I have with this being my work station and mythbox all in one.. dual monitor thingy.. lol |
| [04:17:00] | jams: | well then use native lirc |
| [04:17:00] | Cromz: | I tried that too.. recompiling it and the ./configure shows lirc always off.. |
| [04:18:00] | Cromz: | native lirc worked fine on the .17 I had |
| [04:18:00] | Cromz: | actually it worked great. |
| [04:18:00] | jams: | did you tell it to enable lirc |
| [04:19:00] | jams: | ./configure --help |
| [04:19:00] | Cromz: | yah. I turned it to yes, didnt' work, went into the setttings.pro and modified it to turn it on. still same results. |
| [04:21:00] | jams: | did you do a make distclean? think I remember having to recompile everything to get lirc support to work |
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| [04:21:00] | jams: | then rerun configure |
| [04:22:00] | Cromz: | doh.. lemme try that. :) |
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| [04:23:00] | oneo: | Agrajag- yes i ran qmake again after doing --disable-audio-arts...should i have done a maek clean too? |
| [04:23:00] | Vantage: | anyone else having their zap2it program guide data suddenly off by one hour? |
| [04:24:00] | mishehu: | Vantage: QT 3.3.4? |
| [04:25:00] | Vantage: | yeah |
| [04:25:00] | mishehu: | that is your problem. it's a known issue. I had it myself. |
| [04:25:00] | Vantage: | any solution or work around? |
| [04:25:00] | mishehu: | you need to either downgrade qt to 3.3.3, or upgrade to CVS |
| [04:26:00] | mishehu: | and you might need to rebuilt myth if you built it yourself. |
| [04:26:00] | Vantage: | i take it there aren't debian packages for CVS? |
| [04:26:00] | mishehu: | and you'll definitely need to delete all programs in the database that are scheduled in the future. |
| [04:26:00] | mishehu: | Vantage: I doubt it, though I don't use debian... I'm a slackware user. |
| [04:35:00] | Vantage: | well i downgraded qt to 3.3.3 but it doesn't seem to have helped |
| [04:35:00] | Vantage: | what the heck does qt have to do with the time anyway? |
| [04:38:00] | Agrajag-: | \ |
| [04:38:00] | Agrajag-: | figures out localtime |
| [04:39:00] | Vantage: | apparently poorly :) |
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| [05:06:00] | Cromz: | ok jams what you need with in reason? :) lol that worked. I did a quick search and found out basicly the same thing you said. and the other stuff I was tring. |
| [05:07:00] | Cromz: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html about have way down there is the part about make distclean; make and editing the settings.pro |
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| [05:10:00] | dcstimm: | San Diego here I come, I leave in 5 hours, soooooo excited! |
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| [05:36:00] | defaultro: | mchou? |
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| [06:16:00] | mchou: | what's up defaultro |
| [06:18:00] | ** kormoc yawns ** | |
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| [06:23:00] | defaultro: | mchou, just got back |
| [06:23:00] | defaultro: | i ordered another air2pc :D |
| [06:23:00] | mchou: | yeah, I heard. |
| [06:24:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [06:24:00] | mchou: | I think you're crazy. |
| [06:24:00] | defaultro: | hehehe |
| [06:24:00] | mchou: | I'm going to go for avermedia. |
| [06:24:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [06:24:00] | defaultro: | did you buy? |
| [06:24:00] | mchou: | buy 2 for the price of one air2pc :) |
| [06:24:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [06:25:00] | mchou: | I gonna get one to hack a driver. |
| [06:25:00] | defaultro: | if i saw a howto yesterday, i should have bought it too |
| [06:25:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [06:25:00] | defaultro: | did you find something from google? |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | from people who got it to work? |
| [06:26:00] | mchou: | no, ppl got it to work already in myth? |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | so no one yet |
| [06:29:00] | defaultro: | did you see today the preview of tomorrows' house? |
| [06:30:00] | defaultro: | dr house shouted to the rich guy |
| [06:30:00] | mchou: | no, I didn't see it. |
| [06:30:00] | mchou: | Volger is gonna get so bitch-slapped by house :) |
| [06:30:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [06:30:00] | defaultro: | i was referring to volger |
| [06:31:00] | mchou: | but I'm gonna miss my Dr, Cameron :) |
| [06:31:00] | mchou: | Dr.* |
| [06:31:00] | defaultro: | she's gone? |
| [06:31:00] | mchou: | with her cute glasses :) |
| [06:32:00] | mchou: | well, from last week's episode it sure looked like it. |
| [06:32:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:32:00] | mchou: | Dr. Cameron can bitch slap me anytime :) |
| [06:32:00] | defaultro: | hehehe |
| [06:32:00] | defaultro: | in your behind |
| [06:33:00] | mchou: | hell, I dont care wher :) |
| [06:33:00] | mchou: | where* |
| [06:33:00] | defaultro: | hehehe |
| [06:33:00] | defaultro: | btw, just bought a dishwasher at bestbuy, dunno if i should cancel it |
| [06:33:00] | defaultro: | is frigidaire brand ok? |
| [06:33:00] | mchou: | lol, why buys crap from BB???? |
| [06:34:00] | defaultro: | i don't know of good place |
| [06:34:00] | mchou: | maybe. But if you got it a BB you paid too much. |
| [06:34:00] | mchou: | at* |
| [06:34:00] | defaultro: | i know that |
| [06:34:00] | defaultro: | it's hard to find something similar to 2 year with no interest |
| [06:34:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [06:35:00] | mchou: | how much is a dishwasher these days?? |
| [06:35:00] | defaultro: | we got it for 299 |
| [06:35:00] | kormoc: | 7.50/hr |
| [06:35:00] | mchou: | shouldnt be more than $800..... |
| [06:35:00] | defaultro: | so that $299 is ok? |
| [06:36:00] | defaultro: | wait, my friend's sister works in abtelectronics |
| [06:36:00] | mchou: | dude, dont get it just cause you dont need to put money down. |
| [06:36:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:36:00] | mchou: | BB will probably bite your ass on that too. |
| [06:37:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [06:37:00] | mchou: | hell, go to frys even, they have better deals. |
| [06:37:00] | mchou: | abte should be good too. |
| [06:37:00] | defaultro: | i'll drop by bb again to cancel |
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| [06:39:00] | mchou: | I'd think any appliance store in chicago would be a better deal than BB. |
| [06:39:00] | defaultro: | i should try that route too most especially, it's getting hot now |
| [06:39:00] | defaultro: | it was awesome today, hi of 80 |
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| [06:45:00] | defaultro: | mchou, am wondering why mythcomflag doesn't get fired anymore |
| [06:46:00] | mchou: | really?? Mine still fires. |
| [06:46:00] | mchou: | but it was weird. |
| [06:46:00] | defaultro: | i don't know what I did |
| [06:46:00] | defaultro: | i looked at my settings and it's still set to ALL |
| [06:47:00] | defaultro: | Blank commercial detection is checked |
| [06:47:00] | mchou: | so is mine..... |
| [06:47:00] | defaultro: | are there other page that I should verify? |
| [06:47:00] | defaultro: | man, im looking at abte, i've got tons of dish washer choices |
| [06:47:00] | mchou: | beats me, didnt happen to me. |
| [06:48:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [06:48:00] | mchou: | exactly, not some crap from BB. |
| [06:48:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [06:48:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [06:49:00] | mchou: | my commflag is definitely borked. |
| [06:49:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:49:00] | defaultro: | i've been looking at each setup screen, but couldnt find anything |
| [06:51:00] | mchou: | sigh, 0.18 is borked for me. |
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| [06:52:00] | defaultro: | likewise |
| [06:53:00] | mchou: | commercial flag is screwed up for me. |
| [06:53:00] | defaultro: | ok, .18 is bad then |
| [06:56:00] | mishehu: | bork bork bork! |
| [06:56:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [06:58:00] | mchou: | this is sad. I'm inviting friends over to watch 24, and showcase how myth cuts commercials. |
| [06:59:00] | mchou: | now I'm gonna have to revert to .17. |
| [06:59:00] | defaultro: | oh no :) |
| [06:59:00] | mishehu: | mchou: cvs as of april 07 works fine for me. |
| [06:59:00] | defaultro: | the cutlist is still there though |
| [06:59:00] | mishehu: | .17 borked up for me... mythbackend constantly crashing. |
| [06:59:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:59:00] | mchou: | nah, .17 is easier for me to revert. |
| [07:00:00] | mchou: | maybe there is a setting I'm missing..... |
| [07:00:00] | mchou: | while playing back prerecorded, I hit 'e' and 'z'. |
| [07:01:00] | defaultro: | z and q |
| [07:01:00] | mchou: | even though I have "dont skip commercials" set, it decides to skip. |
| [07:01:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [07:01:00] | mchou: | what does q do? |
| [07:01:00] | defaultro: | fwd |
| [07:02:00] | defaultro: | z back |
| [07:02:00] | defaultro: | let me verify |
| [07:02:00] | mchou: | I use arrow keys myself. |
| [07:03:00] | defaultro: | Z is SKIPCOMMERCIAL and Q skipcommercial reverse |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | did the keys change? |
| [07:04:00] | defaultro: | i don't know |
| [07:04:00] | defaultro: | i'm just looking at mythweb |
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| [07:04:00] | defaultro: | but mythweb just consults my db |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | screw mythweb. |
| [07:04:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [07:05:00] | xris: | mchou: that sounds painful |
| [07:05:00] | mchou: | I'm not a fan of mythweb. |
| [07:05:00] | xris: | defaultro: delete all of the keys, run frontend, they'll reset. |
| [07:05:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [07:05:00] | xris: | mchou: you're entitled to your opinion. |
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| [07:05:00] | defaultro: | in KEYBINDINGS table? |
| [07:05:00] | xris: | defaultro: yeah |
| [07:06:00] | defaultro: | so mine is screwed up? |
| [07:06:00] | defaultro: | it's the first time i looked at this table. I have never played with keybindings |
| [07:06:00] | xris: | unless someone changed it, that's been the way to reset to the defaults. |
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| [07:07:00] | defaultro: | i didn't change any keys |
| [07:07:00] | xris: | I want to put a button for it into mythweb, but it's the frontend that assigns the bindings, not the backend, so there's no command to regenerate them. |
| [07:07:00] | defaultro: | no, i'm not using mythweb to change anything |
| [07:07:00] | defaultro: | i just used it to look at the entries |
| [07:08:00] | defaultro: | now, am using phpMyAdmin |
| [07:08:00] | defaultro: | im confused, what's wrong with my keys? |
| [07:10:00] | marmoset: | xris: I'm a huge fan of mythweb ;) |
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| [07:10:00] | xris: | marmoset: :) |
| [07:10:00] | xris: | me, too |
| [07:10:00] | marmoset: | ;) |
| [07:11:00] | defaultro: | xris, im still interested, what's wrong with my keybindings? |
| [07:11:00] | defaultro: | why where you telling me to delete it? |
| [07:11:00] | xris: | marmoset: so what company do you work for? |
| [07:11:00] | xris: | defaultro: I thought you said there was something wrong with them |
| [07:11:00] | defaultro: | oh ok, lol |
| [07:12:00] | marmoset: | xris: got several different names, FCI, ATG, couple others |
| [07:12:00] | xris: | ah |
| [07:12:00] | marmoset: | xris: the guy who called your place today to find out information was really impressed with the sales guy he talked to (ken?) |
| [07:12:00] | defaultro: | anyways, mchou is another victim of mythcommflag failure in .18 |
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| [07:12:00] | xris: | lol |
| [07:12:00] | marmoset: | he knew all his stuff really well, that's rare in vendors ;) |
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| [07:13:00] | xris: | ken's a nutjob |
| [07:13:00] | marmoset: | haha |
| [07:13:00] | xris: | (also one of the owners — Jon, the other sales guy is, too, but he's sane) |
| [07:13:00] | kormoc: | yeah? |
| [07:13:00] | xris: | but yeah, they pride themselves on knowing as much as the techies do about such things. |
| [07:13:00] | kormoc: | what this time? |
| [07:13:00] | xris: | kormoc: you agree, ken's nuts, right? |
| [07:14:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [07:14:00] | xris: | jon's probably nuts, too, but he's the quiet type that you'd never know it. |
| [07:14:00] | kormoc: | no question |
| [07:14:00] | marmoset: | hehe |
| [07:14:00] | kormoc: | but he's also a hoot |
| [07:14:00] | xris: | yes |
| [07:14:00] | xris: | jon probably brings in 10x as much money as ken in sales, but Ken is much better with the PR side of customer stuff. |
| [07:15:00] | xris: | I don't know who owns how much of the company, but they've kept it managed pretty well. Dave (owner/pres) has always impressed me with how he runs things. |
| [07:15:00] | marmoset: | how long have you worked there? |
| [07:15:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [07:16:00] | xris: | little over 2 years, I think |
| [07:16:00] | kormoc: | tis a cool place |
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| [07:16:00] | xris: | kormoc started about 3 weeks ago, no? |
| [07:16:00] | xris: | no, must be more than that. |
| [07:16:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [07:16:00] | kormoc: | a tad over 5 weeks |
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| [07:16:00] | xris: | wow |
| [07:16:00] | xris: | long time. heh. |
| [07:16:00] | kormoc: | 2 15 day paychecks + 1 2 day check |
| [07:17:00] | xris: | heh |
| [07:17:00] | marmoset: | hehe |
| [07:17:00] | marmoset: | you know it's short if you can measure it in paychecks |
| [07:17:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
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| [07:18:00] | xris: | man, enough with the netsplits, already. |
| [07:18:00] | mchou: | Hey Captain_Murdoch, anyone one else complain about commflag weirdness? |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | mchou: I do. |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | it's f'd up for mpeg4 stuff |
| [07:18:00] | mchou: | you too eh?? |
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| [07:18:00] | xris: | so is mythtranscode when doing fifodir stuff. |
| [07:19:00] | mchou: | lol, mine is screwed for mpeg2 :) |
| [07:19:00] | marmoset: | works great for mpeg2 for me |
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| [07:19:00] | mchou: | never mind mpeg2. |
| [07:19:00] | xris: | mchou: ah. mine 's ok for mpeg2. usually a second or so on the wrong side of the commercial. |
| [07:19:00] | mchou: | mpeg4* |
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| [07:20:00] | mchou: | shit man, this is annoying. |
| [07:20:00] | marmoset: | xris: yeah, it's weird, it can detect the commericals fine, but for some reason, it doesn't put the marker on the blank frame |
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| [07:20:00] | mchou: | mfuckers! |
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| [13:59:00] | Beirdo: | stupid netsplit |
| [14:03:00] | Cromz: | morning to you too Beirdo :> |
| [14:04:00] | Beirdo: | morning |
| [14:06:00] | Cromz: | ahhh summer is fast approching here.. and I have a dvd3700t and 7" monitor to install in my car. so I can watch some of these ripped shows from myth while I'm at rest stops ( when I go on vacation) or if I loose power at the house.. I can watch'em in my car with the big stereo.. lol |
| [14:07:00] | jams: | Cromz, lirc working? |
| [14:07:00] | Cromz: | jams: ya thanks man.. ok what you need? within reason? lol |
| [14:08:00] | ** Beirdo cues some music to help waking up ** | |
| [14:08:00] | Cromz: | you got a amazon wish list? LOL |
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| [14:11:00] | Cromz: | k well I'm offf to work. leave me a pm :P or I might miss it heh |
| [14:11:00] | jams: | nothing needed here |
| [14:12:00] | jams: | later |
| [14:16:00] | ProtocoLD: | Cromz, build this for your car.... |
| [14:16:00] | ProtocoLD: | http://www.dashpc.com/ |
| [14:17:00] | ProtocoLD: | been wanting to build one for awhile now but never got around to it |
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| [14:20:00] | Cromz: | ProtocoLD: I was looking at that last year sometime.if I did that I may need another altinator for my car :> I got 2140watts in my '02 mustang v6 :> thump thump thump |
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| [14:21:00] | Cromz: | jams: how about this? lol http://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts/details. . . . N-EFD512U20K |
| [14:24:00] | jams: | that's nice but people walk off with my pens far to often ;) |
| [14:25:00] | ProtocoLD: | i got a 1gb jump drive now |
| [14:25:00] | ProtocoLD: | works great |
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| [15:01:00] | carl: | i'm a linux noob trying to get mythtv working, but am having problems with the final setup. |
| [15:01:00] | carl: | specifically.. connecting to the master backend. |
| [15:02:00] | carl: | even when I issue the 'backend start' command from the root.. I don't believe it's running. |
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| [15:02:00] | ProtocoLD: | make sure it's running |
| [15:03:00] | carl: | when I issue the 'stop' or 'force load'.. it says no backend running. |
| [15:03:00] | ProtocoLD: | from a shell... type 'mythbackend' |
| [15:04:00] | carl: | 2005-04–19 10:03:57.406 Unable to connect to database! |
| [15:04:00] | carl: | 2005-04–19 10:03:57.407 Driver error was [1/1045]: |
| [15:04:00] | carl: | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
| [15:04:00] | carl: | Database error was: |
| [15:04:00] | carl: | Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [15:04:00] | ProtocoLD: | in another shell, type mythfrontend |
| [15:04:00] | ProtocoLD: | your mysql isn't set up properly |
| [15:05:00] | carl: | yep.. i think so to! |
| [15:05:00] | ProtocoLD: | when you setup mysql, make sure you allow user 'mythtv' have access rights to it |
| [15:05:00] | ProtocoLD: | bbl |
| [15:05:00] | carl: | i followed the steps closely.. I have a mythtv user with the 'mythtv' password. |
| [15:05:00] | carl: | i did |
| [15:06:00] | carl: | exiting mythfrontend.. it says it couldn't connect with the master database. |
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| [15:13:00] | carl: | i took a look in the 'mysql.txt' file and the dbpassword is encrypted.. should this just be 'mythtv'? |
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| [15:22:00] | stoffel: | carl you're on debian? |
| [15:22:00] | stoffel: | err, nm. the password should be in cleartext |
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| [15:25:00] | Cyber23: | hello |
| [15:25:00] | Cyber23: | I am a new user when it comes to linux and mythtv |
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| [15:26:00] | Cyber23: | I have a ATI All In Wonder 128 |
| [15:26:00] | Cyber23: | does that work well with knoppix |
| [15:29:00] | Beirdo: | as a video card it should work OK, I think |
| [15:29:00] | Beirdo: | as a capture card, not at all |
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| [15:30:00] | Cyber23: | what about a MSI TV@nywhere 8606 turner card |
| [15:31:00] | Cyber23: | Does have hardware mpeg 2 encoding |
| [15:31:00] | Beirdo: | are there Linux drivers for it that work? |
| [15:31:00] | Cyber23: | no sure |
| [15:31:00] | laga: | Beirdo: BTw, i passed the exam. ;) |
| [15:31:00] | Cyber23: | any sites I can check |
| [15:31:00] | Beirdo: | no it doesn't have hardware MPEG2 |
| [15:31:00] | Beirdo: | |
| [15:31:00] | Beirdo: | laga: congrats. I'll stay off the sidewalks :) |
| [15:32:00] | laga: | Beirdo: hehe. not yet, you have another 2 months ;) |
| [15:33:00] | Beirdo: | and of course, you're not in Canada :) |
| [15:34:00] | carl: | stoffel: sorry.. ubuntu, debian based. I had to tend to baby. |
| [15:34:00] | Cyber23: | anybody suggest a good distro for mythTV |
| [15:34:00] | Beirdo: | Cyber23: any distro you are used to |
| [15:35:00] | Cyber23: | ok |
| [15:35:00] | Cyber23: | it looks awesome |
| [15:35:00] | Cyber23: | I want to use it |
| [15:36:00] | Beirdo: | it is pretty cool |
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| [15:46:00] | laga: | Beirdo: not yet.. |
| [15:47:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh, this makes me happy and stuff |
| [15:48:00] | Beirdo: | AH FUCK |
| [15:48:00] | Beirdo: | except the skipping in this track |
| [15:48:00] | laga: | np: kreator – golden age |
| [15:48:00] | laga: | very cool thrash metal |
| [15:48:00] | Beirdo: | NP: Van Halen – Balance |
| [15:48:00] | pattm: | fuck hardware mpeg2 |
| [15:48:00] | ** CyberKnet notices the Celine Dion mix tape in laga's 8-track ** | |
| [15:49:00] | pattm: | why the fuck would anyone want to store their video in mpeg2 |
| [15:49:00] | Beirdo: | Can't Stop Lovin' You is skippy as hell |
| [15:49:00] | Beirdo: | I hate this laptop's CDROM |
| [15:49:00] | ** laga beqats CyberKnet ** | |
| [15:49:00] | pattm: | they just enjoy wasting hard drive space I guess |
| [15:49:00] | CyberKnet: | +2 geek cred for the 8-track. -1,000,000 loser cred for celine. |
| [15:49:00] | laga: | pattm: shut up. |
| [15:49:00] | Beirdo: | pattm: better quality |
| [15:49:00] | laga: | pattm: sorry. shut the fuck up. |
| [15:49:00] | Beirdo: | and because disk is cheap, and many people want to make DVDs |
| [15:49:00] | pattm: | better quality than what |
| [15:50:00] | Beirdo: | now take your trolling elsewhere :) |
| [15:50:00] | laga: | Beirdo: ack |
| [15:50:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: Perhaps he wants to store full frame uncompressed NTSC ;) |
| [15:50:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [15:50:00] | Beirdo: | now THAT would be a waste of space |
| [15:51:00] | CyberKnet: | Too right, you should be storing full frame uncompressed PAL. ;) |
| [15:51:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [15:51:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [15:51:00] | Beirdo: | not much difference in total space required |
| [15:51:00] | Beirdo: | lower framerate, but bigger frames |
| [15:53:00] | CyberKnet: | what framerate does HDTV display in? |
| [15:53:00] | Beirdo: | depends on which HDTV resolution |
| [15:53:00] | laga: | 100hz flicker-free M( |
| [15:53:00] | Beirdo: | 59.94 for much of it |
| [15:53:00] | laga: | ;) i mean. |
| [15:53:00] | CyberKnet: | and did you ever wonder why they didn't just make NTSC *30* frames per second instead of 29.9025398752490784132097410765034987523-02754–072435 |
| [15:53:00] | Beirdo: | twice NTSC |
| [15:53:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [15:53:00] | Beirdo: | there's a good reason, and it's well documented for the curious |
| [15:54:00] | CyberKnet: | bleh |
| [15:54:00] | CyberKnet: | I dont care |
| [15:54:00] | CyberKnet: | I like round even numbers. |
| [15:54:00] | CyberKnet: | dammit |
| [15:54:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [15:54:00] | Beirdo: | let's try re-ripping with error correction |
| [15:54:00] | CyberKnet: | something to do with how quickly tvs of the day could decode the signal, and having partially empty frames to let the tv catch up. |
| [15:55:00] | Beirdo: | yup, and 30fps being chosen primarily due to 60Hz power if I remember right |
| [15:55:00] | CyberKnet: | They should have just made TV a container format that was able to be pared down on the fly. |
| [15:55:00] | CyberKnet: | or rather, they should now. |
| [15:55:00] | Beirdo: | you need to degeek :) |
| [15:56:00] | CyberKnet: | hah. me. degeek. I have no geek cred =) |
| [15:56:00] | CyberKnet: | How amazingly cool would it be of OGG Theora was capable of bitrate peeling the same way OGG Vorbis is. Generic on the fly bitrate peeling with exceptionally little CPU overhead. |
| [15:57:00] | CyberKnet: | one copy of a audio/video file streamed to zillions of different devices that can then peel it as needed. |
| [15:57:00] | laga: | bitrate peeling? |
| [15:57:00] | laga: | oh, cool. |
| [15:57:00] | CyberKnet: | Or, one copy being peeled to different rates by a server without having to recompress it. |
| [15:58:00] | CyberKnet: | Bitrate peeling is the bomb. It is also not working as of yet. |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | hah |
| [15:58:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | and likely never will |
| [15:58:00] | CyberKnet: | No, OGG Vorbis bitrate peeling is very possible. |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | that's audio |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | not video |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | numbskull :) |
| [15:58:00] | CyberKnet: | 09:59 < CyberKnet> Bitrate peeling is the bomb. It is also not working as of |
| [15:58:00] | CyberKnet: | yet. |
| [15:58:00] | CyberKnet: | #define VIDEO ? |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | if you need someone to define video, you truly are lame :) |
| [15:59:00] | CyberKnet: | Video bitrate peeling will likely not happen any time soon. |
| [15:59:00] | CyberKnet: | if at all. |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | precisely |
| [15:59:00] | CyberKnet: | Audio bitrate peeling is already here. |
| [16:00:00] | CyberKnet: | And five years ago nobody would have believed that you could have audio bitrate peeling. |
| [16:00:00] | Beirdo: | audio's a lot easier to model |
| [16:00:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:00:00] | CyberKnet: | true enough. |
| [16:00:00] | CyberKnet: | as cpu speed goes up, the amount that is "marginal overhead" increases. |
| [16:00:00] | CyberKnet: | =P" |
| [16:00:00] | Beirdo: | now I have two CDs I need to replace |
| [16:01:00] | Beirdo: | Bon Jovi – Crossroad and Van Halen – Balance |
| [16:02:00] | laga: | bon jovi? |
| [16:02:00] | laga: | o_O |
| [16:02:00] | CyberKnet: | I can imagine though that you could do a few different leveled DCT's on the same frame though and store the diff somehow, then peel back as needed with out too much overhead. But your file size would be much larger for the highest quality setting unless you did the equivalent of stripping a binary |
| [16:02:00] | Beirdo: | you got a problem with that, laga? :) |
| [16:02:00] | laga: | Beirdo: no. it's more like disgust. ;) |
| [16:02:00] | Beirdo: | hah |
| [16:02:00] | CyberKnet: | SHOT THROUGH THE HEART, and you're too blame darlin, you give looooove... a BAD name! |
| [16:02:00] | Beirdo: | good music, even if you don't like it |
| [16:03:00] | ** laga prefers some kreator ATM ** | |
| [16:05:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: no comment on my ozone-extracted video compression scheme? |
| [16:05:00] | CyberKnet: | =P" |
| [16:05:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | have fun researching it |
| [16:06:00] | CyberKnet: | =P"""""" |
| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | dammit |
| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | WMP sucks so bad |
| [16:06:00] | laga: | indeed. |
| [16:06:00] | laga: | why do you use it then? |
| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | They didn't have track info for this CD |
| [16:07:00] | Beirdo: | so I entered it |
| [16:07:00] | Beirdo: | and it tosses a script error |
| [16:07:00] | Beirdo: | because it's the corporate standard |
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| [16:08:00] | CyberKnet: | corporate standard for ripping cd audio? |
| [16:08:00] | CyberKnet: | that's a new one |
| [16:08:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:09:00] | Beirdo: | no, we aren't supposed to install itunes, etc |
| [16:09:00] | Beirdo: | but WMP is installed in the standard image |
| [16:09:00] | Beirdo: | so I use it |
| [16:09:00] | Beirdo: | and WMA9 is a decent audio codec anyways |
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| [16:11:00] | CyberKnet: | only if part of you definition of decent does not include "Has a free and open source implementation and is not patent encumbered" |
| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not talking politically |
| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | I mean quality-wise |
| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | hell, MP3 is patent encumbered too |
| [16:12:00] | Beirdo: | YAY |
| [16:12:00] | Beirdo: | it took it that time |
| [16:12:00] | Beirdo: | and submitted to their library |
| [16:13:00] | Beirdo: | Guardian – Swing Swang Swung |
| [16:13:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:13:00] | Beirdo: | now to rip it |
| [16:14:00] | CyberKnet: | FYI: I do not endorse MP3 either. |
| [16:14:00] | CyberKnet: | I rip to OGG |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [16:14:00] | CyberKnet: | which is a pain in the ass with my iPod |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | MP3 is part of the MPEG standards |
| [16:15:00] | CyberKnet: | Yes. |
| [16:15:00] | Beirdo: | for home use, I rip to AAC (MPEG-4 audio) for iTunes :) |
| [16:15:00] | CyberKnet: | Apart from philosophical reasons, I personally prefer the sound of OGG Vorbis over MP3. |
| [16:15:00] | Beirdo: | but at work, I use WMA9 at 128kbit |
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| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | it's either that or MP3, and WMA9 sounds better |
| [16:16:00] | CyberKnet: | (I am not trying to say it's higher fidelity... just that I prefer it's artifacts to MP3's artifacts) |
| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | and it's only to rip CDs I have :) |
| [16:16:00] | CyberKnet: | Yep. |
| [16:16:00] | CyberKnet: | I haven't tried ripping to AAC. |
| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | not to share, so I don't care if others like the format or not |
| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | the iPod likes AAC just fine |
| [16:17:00] | CyberKnet: | take a long time to compress AAC as compared to OGG or MP3? |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | about the same, I think, I never really timed it |
| [16:17:00] | CyberKnet: | you rip on linux, or windows? |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | at home? |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | neither |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | OS X |
| [16:17:00] | CyberKnet: | you rip in iTunes, don't you? |
| [16:17:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [16:18:00] | CyberKnet: | I was just thinking "Where the hell am I going to find a free windows AAC compressor..." |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | if I'm gonna do MP3/OGG, I do it in Linux |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | iTunes :) |
| [16:18:00] | CyberKnet: | and then I remembered that I own iTunes =) |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | Three cheers for Apple |
| [16:19:00] | CyberKnet: | Well, I dont share my audio either... so you'd think I'd be format agnostic |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | one thing I like in WMP. You can rip while playing from your library |
| [16:19:00] | CyberKnet: | I do know that I can very easily hear artifacts even in 160kbit MP3 |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | depends on what you are encoding :) |
| [16:19:00] | CyberKnet: | Apparently Real Player does that too, it's a nice feature. |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | Stairway To Heaven sucks ass at lower than 256 |
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| [16:19:00] | CyberKnet: | I rip most of the time in 192kbit OGG |
| [16:20:00] | Beirdo: | some songs are just fine at 128 |
| [16:20:00] | CyberKnet: | I keep praying that apple will eventually support it. |
| [16:20:00] | CyberKnet: | =P" |
| [16:20:00] | Beirdo: | so depends a lot on what you are actually encoding |
| [16:20:00] | Beirdo: | I'm sure God's real concerned about OGG :) |
| [16:20:00] | CyberKnet: | You just can't know for certain =) |
| [16:20:00] | CyberKnet: | Better to appeal and fail than to remain silent =) |
| [16:20:00] | CyberKnet: | right? |
| [16:21:00] | CyberKnet: | "The worst they can do is say no" |
| [16:21:00] | CyberKnet: | that's not that bad. |
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| [16:21:00] | ikaro: | http://ikaro.homepage.dk/pg.jpg the program guide is empty, anyone have some ideas why ? ( yes I ran mythfilldatabase after runnig tv_grab_* ) |
| [16:21:00] | CyberKnet: | ikaro: MythTV doesn't like you =) |
| [16:23:00] | laga: | yeah. i guess you trolled too much on slashdot. |
| [16:24:00] | Beirdo: | next to rip: B.B. King & Eric Clapton – Riding With The King |
| [16:24:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:24:00] | CyberKnet: | I wish I could buy a copy of a track I heard once of Natalie Merchant and Tracy Chapman singing "Where the soul never dies" in a round. |
| [16:25:00] | ** laga listens to some manowar..no, they're not gay. ** | |
| [16:25:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: are they gay? |
| [16:25:00] | laga: | well, i dunno. but some people say it as an insult. |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | they may be gay, but what's it to us anyways? |
| [16:26:00] | laga: | yeah. geeks are asexual anyways. |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | mostly :) |
| [16:26:00] | laga: | may i add that i don't see myself as a geek? ;) |
| [16:26:00] | ** laga hides ** | |
| [16:27:00] | CyberKnet: | hah |
| [16:27:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: if not a- then perhaps bi- =) |
| [16:27:00] | ** CyberKnet looks at laga in a very loving way ** | |
| [16:28:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: you saying you're bi? silly aussie. sheep don't count |
| [16:28:00] | CyberKnet: | bi-i-i-i-i-i-i-iii-i |
| [16:28:00] | CyberKnet: | hah |
| [16:28:00] | CyberKnet: | No sir. I am not bi. |
| [16:28:00] | Beirdo: | women and sheep |
| [16:28:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:29:00] | ** Beirdo is a prick ** | |
| [16:29:00] | ** laga puts the chastity belt on ** | |
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| [16:29:00] | CyberKnet: | Yes. And you suck. So draw *those* two lines together =) |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [16:35:00] | hadees: | has anyone here ever had serious heat issues with their mythtv box, i just installed a new motherboard yesterday and i had installed my system and was compiling xorg when the computer just quick out on me and wouldn't turn back on, this morning i tried to start it up and the vfd came on for a 5 seconds which was longer then it did last night but the computer turned right off again, i got no idea what i should do... |
| [16:36:00] | hadees: | i guess start swaping out parts but i don't exactly have spare cpus and motherboards laying around |
| [16:36:00] | hadees: | fsck |
| [16:36:00] | hadees: | fsck |
| [16:36:00] | hadees: | and more fsck |
| [16:36:00] | hadees: | any advice would be helpfull |
| [16:36:00] | hadees: | me and my damn 3 tuners |
| [16:37:00] | laga: | bigger fans? |
| [16:38:00] | hadees: | laga, hehe well i was kind of going for how should i figure out if anything is fried |
| [16:38:00] | hadees: | i am pretty sure after this i am going to bite the cost and built a seprate backend |
| [16:39:00] | hadees: | but first i need to somehow salvage the working parts... |
| [16:39:00] | hadees: | i hate to do it but anyone know how fry's is with computers? could i take it in there to have them figure out whats up? |
| [16:39:00] | hadees: | they have parts to switch out... |
| [16:41:00] | laga: | heh. true geeks don't let any clerks touch their computer. |
| [16:41:00] | laga: | you could probably ask a friend. |
| [16:41:00] | Beirdo: | hadees: do you have spare memory? |
| [16:41:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, i do have stuff in my other production computers but i am alittle worried to swap them in |
| [16:42:00] | hadees: | this is just a nightmare all around |
| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | first thing to try is removing all excess stuff like tuners and see if it will boot |
| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | if it won't, then the number of things to check went WAY down |
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| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | narrow down the offended part :) |
| [16:43:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, yeah but at the point i get to a motherboard, cpu or ram i still don't know what to switch in |
| [16:43:00] | hadees: | and the powersupply could have fried it... |
| [16:43:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [16:43:00] | carl: | someone recently posted a new Ubuntu/MythTV HowTo at ubuntuforums.org |
| [16:43:00] | Beirdo: | those are the 4 to worry about |
| [16:43:00] | hadees: | the worst thing is i am going to build a backend but i still have no place to put it |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | does it get to the bios page? |
| [16:44:00] | carl: | i'm hoping it fixes my mysql troubles. |
| [16:44:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, no it turns right off, at first i thought last night it was a heat sensor |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | wow |
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| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | power supply would be high on my list of suspects |
| [16:45:00] | hadees: | but this morning i smelled some slight burning but i think thats just heat related |
| [16:45:00] | hadees: | no smoke or anything |
| [16:45:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, thanks for the insight, i am going to order a replacement right now |
| [16:45:00] | hadees: | i wish i had the money to just chuck it and get a new computer |
| [16:46:00] | hadees: | or pay someone else |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [16:46:00] | hadees: | man i just did a mod too on my m179 to add gpu heat syncs to the chips |
| [16:46:00] | hadees: | m179s |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | if it can't even get up to a bios screen, it could likely be the power supply. or the motherboard :( |
| [16:47:00] | CyberKnet: | hadees: hmmm... that's interesting. fanless heatsinks? |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | but hard to tell which at first |
| [16:47:00] | hadees: | Cyber23, no fan but its copper and better |
| [16:47:00] | CyberKnet: | I'd trade out the PSU first. |
| [16:47:00] | CyberKnet: | almost no risk of frying a psu because of a bad motherboard. |
| [16:48:00] | CyberKnet: | but I'd try a different electrical socket than the one it was originally plugged into. |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, if you have a spare power supply around, try putting it in |
| [16:48:00] | hadees: | well the things are getting power |
| [16:48:00] | hadees: | i see the light on for the net |
| [16:48:00] | hadees: | just won't turn on |
| [16:48:00] | CyberKnet: | hadees: but they may not be getting the right kind |
| [16:48:00] | CyberKnet: | or enough |
| [16:48:00] | CyberKnet: | or here's an interesting thing to check... make sure there's no short to ground on the motherboard |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | if (for instance) the +5V doesn't have enough current available, it will still not work |
| [16:48:00] | CyberKnet: | i.e. take the motherboard out of the case. |
| [16:48:00] | hadees: | CyberKnet, i tried the diffrent sockets and it was running fine for a while |
| [16:49:00] | CyberKnet: | I once had a pc that would NOT boot up in the case. turned out it was shorting out when it was in the case. (bad case) |
| [16:49:00] | hadees: | my damn computers are a money pit, it seems there is always one with a problem |
| [16:50:00] | CyberKnet: | hadees: logic would suggest you cut down on the number of computers, consolidate. =P" |
| [16:50:00] | CyberKnet: | then again... maybe it's just you =P" |
| [16:50:00] | CyberKnet: | with your fancy mods and all. |
| [16:50:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [16:50:00] | hadees: | thank god for *cough*bt*cough* or i would go insane |
| [16:50:00] | hadees: | missing my shows and what not |
| [16:50:00] | CyberKnet: | British Telecom... what's that got to do with this? =) |
| [16:50:00] | hadees: | hehe |
| [16:50:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [16:50:00] | hadees: | yeah |
| [16:51:00] | hadees: | i don't get it you know why don't we go back to the days where like a company would sponser a show |
| [16:51:00] | hadees: | and it would start up with the ad |
| [16:51:00] | hadees: | then the normal show |
| [16:51:00] | hadees: | they could send that out over bittorrent to people |
| [16:52:00] | hadees: | although i don't think they care about that, they want dvd sales now |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, make sure your mods aren't shorting from the heat sink to the adjacent card :) |
| [16:54:00] | hadees: | has anyone really used any of these new 3rd party plugins like Torrentocracy or TVWish? |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [16:55:00] | hadees: | its so weird there are all these strange like sub mythtv groups some of which do illegal things |
| [16:55:00] | hadees: | like sat |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, and none are welcome to be discussed here, so tread lightly :) |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | illegal is bad, mmkay? :) |
| [16:56:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, hehe i know where i can go and can't |
| [16:56:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, i have been in here a while remember |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | good :) |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | true :) |
| [16:57:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, the last thing i will say about sat though is that it is unfair they have the best quality picture |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, true |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | but you can still use analog out. |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | sucky, I know |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | I wish the laws weren't the way they are. But they are :) |
| [16:58:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, well your not in the USA |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | they aren't much different in Canada |
| [16:58:00] | hadees: | you ca'nt do it up north |
| [16:59:00] | AndyCap: | hadees: heh, shows bought from us producers here are sponsored by a company. (or two) |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | it's still illegal or at least a grey area up here |
| [16:59:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, what irks me is i can't do what they are doing legally |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [16:59:00] | hadees: | like i can't be a direct tv sub and do that |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | talk to your lawmakers :( |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | good luck with that |
| [17:00:00] | hadees: | i would have a better chance starting a second civil war |
| [17:00:00] | AndyCap: | question, am I expecting too much to want to do livetv on a D320 celeron 2.4 ghz with a saa7134 card? |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | hadees: so true |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | AndyCap: you should be OK, I'd think |
| [17:01:00] | hadees: | AndyCap, better then okay |
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| [17:01:00] | AndyCap: | hadees: I wouldn't be too surprised if there is an IP civil war some day in the distant future |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | morning, xris :) |
| [17:02:00] | hadees: | AndyCap, i mean what kind of system requirements do you think mythtv needs? |
| [17:02:00] | laga: | white smoke in the vatican. seems like they found the new pope. |
| [17:02:00] | AndyCap: | Hmm, must be junk sound and video drivers then. Running an ATI card at 720x576 50hzi with xorg. |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | laga: cool. and the fact that it didn't take long is good |
| [17:02:00] | hadees: | there won't be a civil war, and the IP will swing back but not till it gets so bad that big companies start getting pissed |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | Beirdo: hehe |
| [17:03:00] | AndyCap: | hadees: well, I though I'd have more than enough power. but playing a recording is jerky |
| [17:03:00] | AndyCap: | hadees: optimist. :) |
| [17:03:00] | hadees: | AndyCap, is dma on? |
| [17:03:00] | AndyCap: | hadees: harddisk? |
| [17:03:00] | hadees: | yeah and every other ide thingy |
| [17:03:00] | hadees: | but yeah your harddisk |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | it means that they came to an agreement quickly, so they are all behind the new guy. and I'm not even catholic. heh |
| [17:04:00] | AndyCap: | Beirdo: unless it's another John Paul I. |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | not likely |
| [17:04:00] | AndyCap: | Beirdo: no candidates that are old enough perhaps. |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | John Paul II appointed nearly all of the cardinals that were choosing |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | so they all agreed with him pretty much |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | but time will tell |
| [17:06:00] | ** laga wonders if its cardinal ratzinger ** | |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | we'll know real soon now |
| [17:06:00] | laga: | yep |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | if they've decided, we'll know by the end of the day for sure |
| [17:06:00] | laga: | end of they day? 4 hours left. |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | heh, not here |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | nor there |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | 6h |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:07:00] | AndyCap: | hmm, I need to fix the audio carrier thingie as well |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | end of the day is midnight, silly :) |
| [17:07:00] | laga: | fscking bells. |
| [17:08:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i'm in a different timezone. in the same as the vatican ;) |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, and it's 6pm right now, no? |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | well 18:08 |
| [17:08:00] | AndyCap: | Beirdo: that's right. |
| [17:08:00] | laga: | http://www.oecumene.radiovaticana.org/ted/video_ctv.asp <- live stream. |
| [17:08:00] | laga: | Beirdo: yep. |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | right. 24 – 18 = 6, not 4 :) |
| [17:08:00] | laga: | time to celebrate |
| [17:08:00] | ** Beirdo chuckles ** | |
| [17:08:00] | laga: | np: ac/dc – hells bells. |
| [17:09:00] | laga: | and i'm not even *christian*. |
| [17:09:00] | AndyCap: | clucking bell. |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | I'm quite protestant |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | but having a good pope is good for world peace |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | and John Paul II was a good pope. |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | well, in fact, i'm catholic. darn habit of baptising people without asking them first. |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | well. expect for the abortion/birth control stuff. |
| [17:10:00] | AndyCap: | laga: well, you're allowed to leave. :) |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | at least in my opinion. |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | your parents chose that for you, not yourself |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | AndyCap: leaving church is like 30 euro and 70 cent. i'm so not going to pay that til li earn my own money |
| [17:10:00] | laga: | (hint: we have church tayes) |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | Beirdo: and i'm still mad at them ;) |
| [17:11:00] | AndyCap: | umm, they charge for that? odd. |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | s/tayes/taxes/ |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | AndyCap: yep, but it means work for them. (them= govenrment/city administration) |
| [17:11:00] | Beirdo: | and like it or not, his views on those issues are in line with what the religion. like it or lump it |
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| [17:11:00] | laga: | yeah. |
| [17:12:00] | AndyCap: | laga: yes, but they should save on church support and so be able to recuperate the cost |
| [17:12:00] | AndyCap: | laga: unless you join a different religion that gets state funds |
| [17:12:00] | laga: | hehe. |
| [17:12:00] | laga: | well, i don't care yet. |
| [17:12:00] | ikaro: | so no one knows why the program guide is empty :/ |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | Lutheran, for instance |
| [17:12:00] | laga: | and they'd probably kick me off my school. |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | after all, much of Germany is Lutheran last I heard |
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| [17:13:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | it's like fifty-fifty here, i guess. |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | and the other big chunk is Catholic |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | yep |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | north Lutheran, south Catholic, no? |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | umm, yep. works for me. |
| [17:14:00] | AndyCap: | 10$ says the new pope is catholic. |
| [17:14:00] | laga: | AndyCap: o_O |
| [17:14:00] | laga: | damn. why does mplayer depend on xmms? |
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| [17:14:00] | laga: | grrr |
| [17:14:00] | catphish: | grrrrrrr |
| [17:14:00] | laga: | i really should learn about debian package management. |
| [17:14:00] | Beirdo: | Argh, it's crapping on this CD too |
| [17:14:00] | Beirdo: | and it's out of print |
| [17:14:00] | Beirdo: | I hate this laptop |
| [17:15:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | extract the audio, you bitch! |
| [17:15:00] | catphish: | lol |
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| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | hahahah |
| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | there's a drop of coffee on the CD |
| [17:16:00] | ** AndyCap wonders if doing yum update from 0.17 to 0.18 is going to leave a huge hole in his foot ** | |
| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | can't blame the CDROM for that |
| [17:17:00] | catphish: | why would mythbackend try to use a tuner thats in use for live tv, when theres a spare one? |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | let's try this again with a clean CD |
| [17:19:00] | mocker: | catphish: Have you set the tuner priorities? |
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| [17:19:00] | catphish: | mocker: no, i assumed they should b identical |
| [17:19:00] | catphish: | so it would choose whichever is free |
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| [17:21:00] | catphish: | i'll look into it |
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| [17:22:00] | AndyCap: | hmm, i think vatican.va needs a bigger pipe. |
| [17:23:00] | catphish: | AndyCap: i agree |
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| [17:30:00] | catphish: | Beirdo: is nuvexport vaguely working these days? |
| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | huh? |
| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | of course it's working :) |
| [17:30:00] | catphish: | hmm |
| [17:31:00] | AndyCap: | catphish: hmm, I didn't know it wasn't, but it works for me. (I'm still running 0.17 though) |
| [17:31:00] | catphish: | maybe i just grabbed a broken version |
| [17:31:00] | catphish: | i'll try a new build |
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| [17:37:00] | abarbaccia: | hey all – i'm anxious to try running mythtv on ubuntu linux – anybody try it out yet? |
| [17:37:00] | catphish: | never heard if it |
| [17:37:00] | catphish: | but im sure it'll work if u get all the dependancies right |
| [17:38:00] | abarbaccia: | its built off of debian – all the "rave" on distrowatch |
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| [17:38:00] | catphish: | lol |
| [17:38:00] | mek: | ubuntu from my experience is more of a desktop distro... |
| [17:38:00] | catphish: | i shall continue to believe firmly i gentoo |
| [17:38:00] | catphish: | *in |
| [17:38:00] | abarbaccia: | i'm using it right now – i switched one of my home pc's over to it – really nice – standard releases every 6 months (as if that has ever happened in a linux distro) based on the release of gnome |
| [17:38:00] | laga: | mek: so? |
| [17:39:00] | mek: | comes with too much bloat for running a backend on |
| [17:39:00] | abarbaccia: | after i get my myth box setup and i go to make my 2nd one, i'll probably fiddle with it a bit |
| [17:39:00] | laga: | mek: ummk. |
| [17:39:00] | abarbaccia: | mek, i don't think so, honestly, its quicker than FC3 |
| [17:40:00] | mek: | don't get me wrong...it's a nice distro... |
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| [17:41:00] | abarbaccia: | all i'm saying is it works very nicely on my home PC – better than fc and mandrake so i was thinkin of trying it for myth – i was wondering if someone has tried it yet |
| [17:42:00] | catphish: | google is ur friend |
| [17:43:00] | abarbaccia: | yea, i was just askin – also i wanted to ask about myth 0.18 but i gotta run to class |
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| [17:43:00] | catphish: | cyas |
| [17:47:00] | mek: | does everyone leave their backend server running all day long? |
| [17:47:00] | Beirdo: | 24/7 |
| [17:48:00] | mek: | does it server any other purpose? |
| [17:48:00] | laga: | cardinal ratzinger is the new pope. |
| [17:48:00] | mek: | *serve |
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| [17:48:00] | laga: | benedikt (prolyl benedict in english) the sixteenth or forteenth. |
| [17:50:00] | laga: | s/prolyl/probably/ |
| [17:51:00] | mek: | s/laga.*//g |
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| [17:52:00] | ** laga slaps mek ** | |
| [17:59:00] | mek: | lolol |
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| [18:17:00] | hadees: | Beirdo, have you heard anything else about this company paying for mythmoviestime |
| [18:17:00] | hadees: | or anyone for that matter |
| [18:17:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
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| [18:32:00] | mocker: | abarbaccia|away: I setup MythTV on Ubuntu for the fun of it. |
| [18:32:00] | mocker: | T |
| [18:32:00] | mocker: | It's running right now. |
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| [18:53:00] | xris: | so quiet |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, it's almost time people are actually doing work |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | using 1.3G out of the 4.5G on D: now :) |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:58:00] | xris: | D:? |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | winblows, remember? |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | we have a chunk of the drive for people to use for a scratch drive |
| [18:59:00] | Beirdo: | which I'm filling with WMA9 files :) |
| [18:59:00] | Beirdo: | anything on C: will be blown away on a reimage. D: is left alone |
| [19:00:00] | xris: | yeah. just didn't get the specific reference. |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | lots and lots of music to stave off boredom |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | and to drown out my coworkers when they are being annoying |
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| [19:02:00] | xris: | heh |
| [19:02:00] | ** Beirdo checks... nope, the coworker's not in the channel right now. heheh ** | |
| [19:02:00] | xris: | heh |
| [19:02:00] | Beirdo: | he's on a different floor anyways |
| [19:02:00] | xris: | 5.6G of music in my music folder |
| [19:03:00] | xris: | wondering if I should grab the Postal Service disk that my wife got yesterday. |
| [19:03:00] | Beirdo: | I have around 9G at home |
| [19:04:00] | xris: | I have almost 10x that. heh. |
| [19:04:00] | kormoc: | 32 gigs of mp3's 19 gigs of music videos... |
| [19:05:00] | xris: | I've never understood the attraction of music videos |
| [19:05:00] | kormoc: | I like the ones I collected, put them on random play, get something on the screen |
| [19:05:00] | xris: | heh |
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| [19:06:00] | Beirdo: | music videos are entertaining |
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| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | Ah, SHIT |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | I just made myself more work. |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | I need some rum |
| [19:08:00] | CyberKnet: | So. |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | you don't get it... :) |
| [19:09:00] | Beirdo: | I'm already behind schedule |
| [19:09:00] | CyberKnet: | I never thought I'd see the day that the dealer quote to fix a car was less than every other body shop in town. |
| [19:09:00] | CyberKnet: | sorry, the So was in conjunction with the following sentance, not yours previous |
| [19:09:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [19:09:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:10:00] | CyberKnet: | dealer is the cheapest price so far to get my car fixed. |
| [19:10:00] | CyberKnet: | That is unbelievable. |
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| [19:15:00] | darkfrog: | When I use "apt-get upgrade" it gives a list of packages that have been kept back...why doesn't it upgrade them as well? |
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| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | man apt-get |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | apt-get upgrade won't upgrade things that require new packages to be installed. |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | or for packages to be removed |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | oh, he already left. ooop |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | s |
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| [19:25:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: you know as well as I that nobody reads man pages =P" |
| [19:25:00] | CyberKnet: | *grin* |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | RTFM :) |
| [19:26:00] | CyberKnet: | My cell phone is fixed =) |
| [19:26:00] | CyberKnet: | New SIM card for me. |
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| [19:47:00] | EmergeTW: | afternoon |
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| [19:52:00] | xris: | EmergeTW: not for another 7.5 minutes. |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | OK, trap on SIGINT working. |
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| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | so if some fool hits Ctrl-C while I have files locked, it will unlock them |
| [19:54:00] | xris: | cool |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | as in testing I kept dangling locks :) |
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| [19:59:00] | EmergeTW: | damn internet connection |
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| [20:01:00] | defaultro|zzzzzz: | Hey Beirdo |
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| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | hey. |
| [20:01:00] | defaultro: | i bought another air2pc card :) |
| [20:02:00] | defaultro: | so is it because the card is still being made which prevents them from shipping? |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [20:02:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [20:03:00] | defaultro: | how long do we have to wait before dvb driver can support it? |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | hmm? |
| [20:03:00] | defaultro: | or is it just a matter of loading the correct firmware |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | however long it takes for the driver to get written |
| [20:03:00] | defaultro: | right now, im loading a file nxt2002.something |
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| [20:05:00] | defaultro: | sorry, filename is dvb-fe-nxt2002.fw |
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| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | whatever |
| [20:06:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [20:06:00] | defaultro: | man, i hate my grass |
| [20:06:00] | defaultro: | :( |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | so stop smoking it |
| [20:06:00] | defaultro: | i just finished mowing |
| [20:07:00] | defaultro: | i've got dead grass underneath good grass |
| [20:07:00] | defaultro: | do you have a lawn? |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | I'm happy for you |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | no, I live in a hi-rise condo building |
| [20:07:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [20:07:00] | streamtrade: | INCX nice recovery |
| [20:08:00] | adante: | any aussies insane enough to be up |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, you :) |
| [20:09:00] | adante: | bah |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | 523 songs ripped so far... |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | adante: dunno if any others are up right now |
| [20:11:00] | adante: | Beirdo: well it is 5 am so i guess thats understandable |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | Good Wednesday morning to you |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | still Tuesday afternoon here :) |
| [20:12:00] | adante: | always 1 step behind :P |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:13:00] | ProtocoLD: | Internet = your portal to the future |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | your portal to pr0n, more like |
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| [20:23:00] | markit: | hi ppl :) any italian here? Italiani? |
| [20:23:00] | o_cee: | i like pasta? |
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| [20:24:00] | markit: | o_cee: ? |
| [20:25:00] | o_cee: | markit, yeah, pasta is real good. we have a nice pasta restaurant in Lund, ate there last week. you should try it and let us know what you think. |
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| [20:27:00] | adante: | so... anyone familiar with tv_grab_au |
| [20:27:00] | markit: | pasta is a food, I'm looking for italian mythtv uses, as I'm sure you have already guessed ;) |
| [20:27:00] | o_cee: | markit, ah, yeah, just saying i like italian food. :) |
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| [20:35:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | hi – is it possible to have a dvb_bt878 card and a bt878 card in the same box? |
| [20:35:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | (without hassle switching between the two) |
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| [20:37:00] | markit: | btw, XGI has released it's video board drivers GPL! http://www.xgitech.com/about/about_press1.asp . . . 221E723B87F} |
| [20:38:00] | markit: | they have really good performances in video playback |
| [20:38:00] | markit: | and the V3, the less powerfull, is also fanless |
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| [20:52:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | markie – who the hell are they? ive never heard of them before (should i have?) |
| [20:52:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | *markit |
| [20:54:00] | markit: | Super_Cat_Frog: nor me, I think is a VIA (chipset) subsidiary |
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| [20:56:00] | markit: | in any case, there is a much more Free project on the orizon: http://kerneltrap.org/node/4622 |
| [20:56:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | didn't via open their sources a few days ago? |
| [20:58:00] | markit: | Super_Cat_Frog: yes, you are right.. for mini-itx boards, AFAIR |
| [20:59:00] | markit: | so is not a coincidence.. ;) |
| [20:59:00] | markit: | in another channel I've been told that XGI drivers opened are just for video + 2D, not 3D... I have to investigate further |
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| [21:04:00] | rhe: | Hi, got some serious problems installing ivtv-0.3.3c on debian sid (kernel-image-2.6.8-2–386). Running "modprobe ivtv" gives me "FATAL: Module tuner not found." and "FATAL: Module msp3400 not found" and so on. Any ideas? |
| [21:06:00] | CyberKnet: | yes |
| [21:09:00] | rhe: | cyberknet: just let me know ... |
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| [21:23:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: any chance of you logging the #mythtv channel too, please? |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | umm, it might be better if Isaac approves of such a thing first |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:24:00] | mchou: | want me to ask him? |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | and this bot's a memory hog, I'd need to rewrite it as I refuse to run two copies of a java bot :) |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | it was what was easily available, but Java sucks |
| [21:25:00] | mchou: | so are you saying willing to do it or no? Cause I'll ask Isaac if he minds right now :) |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | I can't do it yet |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | I'd be willing to once I can |
| [21:26:00] | mchou: | ok fair enough. |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | this one already puts my linode too far into swap :) |
| [21:26:00] | mchou: | hehe.... |
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| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | so running a second one would suck :) |
| [21:26:00] | mchou: | yeah, thanks though. this indeed helpful |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | :) That's why it's there :) |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | I'll redo it with a C-based bot engine when I get a chance |
| [21:28:00] | mchou: | there are utils written that automatically logs irc channels??? |
| [21:28:00] | mchou: | arent* |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | there are piles, but not necessarily nice output, etc |
| [21:28:00] | mchou: | oh, ok. |
| [21:28:00] | the-FoX: | i need some help for compiling mythtv 0.18 with dvb support... maybe someone can help me please ? :-/ |
| [21:28:00] | mchou: | the-FoX: read the docs? |
| [21:29:00] | mchou: | it's straightforward. |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | I like the output this one gives |
| [21:29:00] | mchou: | assuming you read docs. |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | I just don't like the Java-ness |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:29:00] | the-FoX: | yes.. @mchou :) i read it more than once... |
| [21:29:00] | mchou: | the-FoX: dunno what to tell ya. |
| [21:30:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: yeah, java is just a hog. |
| [21:30:00] | the-FoX: | i ran ./configure with all these options ... but after compiling when i start the mythbackend in /usr/src/mythtv/programs/mythtvbackend it tells me it wasn't compiled with dvb support :-( |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | it was the fastest way to get a decent outputting logbot running though |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | it REALLY doesn't like netsplits for some reason though |
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| [21:31:00] | mchou: | the-FoX: then you must have an old version of myth lying around. |
| [21:31:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: heh, yeah, cant keep up :) |
| [21:31:00] | mchou: | like last night?? |
| [21:31:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I had to restart it after that mess |
| [21:32:00] | the-FoX: | @mchou: how can i figure it out ? |
| [21:32:00] | mchou: | the-FoX: ever use locate? |
| [21:33:00] | the-FoX: | yes |
| [21:33:00] | mchou: | or find? |
| [21:33:00] | mchou: | the-FoX: then you know what to do. |
| [21:33:00] | TheAsp: | heh |
| [21:33:00] | TheAsp: | :P |
| [21:34:00] | the-FoX: | but when i change into the /usr/src/mythtv/programms/mythbackend dir and call there ./mythbackend than the backend would be taken out of this directory |
| [21:34:00] | the-FoX: | or am i wrong ? |
| [21:35:00] | mchou: | yes you'd be correct. |
| [21:35:00] | the-FoX: | mythbackend only exists in the src directory |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | make install |
| [21:35:00] | mchou: | lol, how about the libs? |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | you need to install before you run it |
| [21:36:00] | ** Beirdo mumbles something about RTFM ** | |
| [21:36:00] | the-FoX: | i got 0.17 before and just wanted to update. so i need the libs again too ? |
| [21:36:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: I think you need to be more explicit :) |
| [21:36:00] | mchou: | good god. |
| [21:36:00] | Mek: | make install again and you will be fine |
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| [21:37:00] | the-FoX: | make install would only copy the files from /usr/src/mythtv/programms/mythbackend and so on into /usr/bin |
| [21:37:00] | mchou: | no, it would do the libs too. |
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| [21:37:00] | the-FoX: | so it wouldn't make a difference where the compiled files laay |
| [21:38:00] | Mek: | um |
| [21:38:00] | mchou: | the-FoX: yeah, so let us know when you got it working :) |
| [21:38:00] | the-FoX: | :-( |
| [21:38:00] | Mek: | well do an ldd on mythbackend and see where the libs are picked up |
| [21:38:00] | mchou: | cause you don't need our help. |
| [21:40:00] | the-FoX: | ldd mythbackend tells me which libs would be needed and where they are. mythbackend runs, but without dvb |
| [21:41:00] | the-FoX: | ok...i'll search myself...thanks |
| [21:41:00] | Mek: | cat config.log then...you probably disabled dvb |
| [21:42:00] | the-FoX: | ./configure --enable-dvb-eit --dvb-path=/usr/src/linux_2.6.11.2-kraxel1/include/ --enable-dvb --disable-ivtv --disable-firewire --disable-audio-jack --disable-audio-arts --disable-audio-oss --prefix=/usr |
| [21:43:00] | the-FoX: | did i miss an option ? |
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| [21:48:00] | the-FoX: | --dvb-path should locate to where the frontend.h of the linux src is located right ? |
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| [21:55:00] | TheAsp: | --enable-alsa? |
| [21:58:00] | the-FoX: | yes in 0.17 i used alsa:spdif as sound output |
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| [22:00:00] | adante: | why does calling 'getstore "http://www.google.com", "google.htm"' in perl would result in a no such file or directory error? |
| [22:00:00] | adante: | (and yes, this is faintly related to mythtv, inasmuch as tv_grab_au is) |
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| [22:08:00] | TheAsp: | why dont you look at getstore and tell us . . . |
| [22:09:00] | adante: | it's a lwp sub so i was hoping people would be familiar with it |
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| [22:13:00] | metusine: | anyone using lirc with 2.6.11ish kernel? |
| [22:15:00] | CyberKnet: | nope. nobody at all. |
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| [22:15:00] | CyberKnet: | I heard rumors someone had finally gotten it to work with 2.0.36 though, so you should have some joy soon-ish. |
| [22:16:00] | TheAsp: | wow |
| [22:16:00] | TheAsp: | 2.0 |
| [22:16:00] | TheAsp: | heh |
| [22:16:00] | CyberKnet: | They say the guy that got it to work runs debian... but I think that kernel is a bit new for debian... =P" |
| [22:17:00] | TheAsp: | 2.6 is in debian, dude |
| [22:17:00] | TheAsp: | :P |
| [22:17:00] | CyberKnet: | keep dreaming. |
| [22:17:00] | CyberKnet: | just because you hacked the version number doesn't make it so =) |
| [22:17:00] | awb4422: | My backend is crashing, and i've searched the mailing lists, but haven't seen anything specific to my error message. I've looked on google, and people are posting about DVB problems, but I have ave pvr-350. |
| [22:17:00] | awb4422: | 2005-04–19 13:09:49.591 Channel(/dev/video0)::Open(): Can't open video device, error "No such file or directory" |
| [22:18:00] | awb4422: | that is my error message, and im running mythbackend as root |
| [22:18:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [22:18:00] | CyberKnet: | "Oooh, my mandriva droolinux runs kernel 87.2.4325" |
| [22:18:00] | awb4422: | this was working for a very long time, and all of a sudden decides to crap out randomly |
| [22:18:00] | mchou: | god, that mandriva name is so silly. |
| [22:18:00] | CyberKnet: | awb4422: Don't take this the wrong way, but things generally don't just stop working on their own. |
| [22:19:00] | Mek: | on windows they do ;) |
| [22:19:00] | awb4422: | CyberKnet: I understand that, thats why I'm asking in here :) |
| [22:19:00] | CyberKnet: | awb4422: It would be a lot more helpful to yourself and to us if you tell us anything you have changed altely, anything you have upgraded... I'm not trying to be rude, but that is generally what happens. |
| [22:19:00] | mchou: | awb4422: you expect us to know what you did to change the system? |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | heat |
| [22:19:00] | CyberKnet: | Mek: Nah, that's predisposed from the time you boot up. Microsoft just has a good RNG to fake us out. |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | that's the prime suspect in long-term weird issues |
| [22:20:00] | TheAsp: | apt-cache search '^kernel-image-2\.6\.'|wc -l 32 |
| [22:20:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: Yeah. That and bad memory. |
| [22:20:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [22:20:00] | CyberKnet: | TheAsp: You're still dreaming. |
| [22:20:00] | Beirdo: | the two are often related |
| [22:20:00] | mchou: | but ppl blame hardware for user error needlessly. |
| [22:20:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: This joker TheAsp thinks that debian stable has a kernel newer than 2.0.36. |
| [22:20:00] | awb4422: | CyberKnet, mchou: The only thing I have done to change my system in the past week (i've had exams and haven't used my computer really) is to delete f-spots photo database. No upgrades of any kind. |
| [22:20:00] | CyberKnet: | =P" |
| [22:20:00] | mchou: | and I'm will to fut down $10 this is not a HW issue :) |
| [22:20:00] | CyberKnet: | awb4422: Then I'd think about running memtest86 on it |
| [22:20:00] | awb4422: | and i've noticed the myth thing happened no earlier than saturday night. |
| [22:20:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: and some people blame user error when the problem is hardware |
| [22:21:00] | mchou: | put* |
| [22:21:00] | TheAsp: | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/base/kern . . . -2.6.8-2-386 |
| [22:21:00] | awb4422: | CyberKnet: Done it, I've had to RMA this memory 3 times, finally got a batch that works |
| [22:21:00] | awb4422: | Corsair was very disappointing to me this time around |
| [22:21:00] | TheAsp: | Cyber23: STABLE has 2.4 |
| [22:21:00] | CyberKnet: | awb4422: Reset your memory timings in your bios |
| [22:21:00] | TheAsp: | err |
| [22:21:00] | TheAsp: | CyberKnet... |
| [22:21:00] | CyberKnet: | TheAsp: You're still kidding yourself =) |
| [22:21:00] | mchou: | awb4422: what kind of cheapass memory you using? :) |
| [22:21:00] | TheAsp: | CyberKnet: wtf is wrong with you? |
| [22:22:00] | awb4422: | 2005-04–19 13:09:49.591 Channel(/dev/video0)::Open(): Can't open video device, error "No such file or directory" |
| [22:22:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: what are you on? |
| [22:22:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:22:00] | awb4422: | that is the error I get... how is that memory related? |
| [22:22:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: Debian-Rampage ;) |
| [22:22:00] | Mek: | ivtv didn't load? |
| [22:22:00] | CyberKnet: | TheAsp: potato-head |
| [22:22:00] | CyberKnet: | TheAsp: heh |
| [22:22:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: you just suck :) |
| [22:22:00] | mchou: | awb4422: it's not. Which is why it's a user error |
| [22:22:00] | CyberKnet: | wait... they're doing woody now. |
| [22:22:00] | CyberKnet: | Woody-Head |
| [22:22:00] | CyberKnet: | =P" |
| [22:22:00] | Beirdo: | they are doing woody. heheheh |
| [22:22:00] | TheAsp: | CyberKnet: 2.2 and 2.4 kernels were in woody. |
| [22:23:00] | CyberKnet: | TheAsp: Get your hand off your woody =) |
| [22:23:00] | mchou: | I've got woody :) |
| [22:23:00] | TheAsp: | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_pac . . . ;release=all |
| [22:23:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: DMA. Read up =) |
| [22:23:00] | CyberKnet: | hahah |
| [22:23:00] | CyberKnet: | TheAsp: seriously man... =) |
| [22:23:00] | ** TheAsp watches his ignore list grow ** | |
| [22:23:00] | CyberKnet: | lmao |
| [22:23:00] | FITH: | lol |
| [22:23:00] | mchou: | DMA is responsibe for /dev/video0 not exist?? lol :) |
| [22:24:00] | awb4422: | and btw, /dev/video0 DOES exist |
| [22:24:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: ivtv uses dma to copy images from the card |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | TheAsp: if you wanna ignore people, don't expect any help |
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| [22:24:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: now. what does dma stand for? |
| [22:24:00] | mchou: | I agree, CyberKnet is too far out. |
| [22:24:00] | TheAsp: | Beirdo: i'm not expecting help either. |
| [22:24:00] | TheAsp: | :) |
| [22:24:00] | CyberKnet: | TheAsp: DebianUser =P" |
| [22:25:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: It stands for "Delete my ass" |
| [22:25:00] | CyberKnet: | TheAsp: Just be glad that it's not hte size of the number of your package that counts, it's the stability of your "uptime" =) So you're still okay =) |
| [22:26:00] | mchou: | fucking credit guy asking a dude from intel what dma stands for, lol. |
| [22:26:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: Direct Memory Access |
| [22:26:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, well. Intel can't divide properly... |
| [22:27:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: er... credit guy? |
| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | and I blame mchou for the FDIV bug |
| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [22:27:00] | ** CyberKnet raises his hand ** | |
| [22:27:00] | CyberKnet: | seconded |
| [22:27:00] | BattousaiX: | :) |
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| [22:27:00] | CyberKnet: | The motion is carried. |
| [22:27:00] | BattousaiX: | Hey everyone. |
| [22:27:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: well since you're suc an acronym expert, you can tell me what TLB stands for. |
| [22:28:00] | mchou: | such* |
| [22:28:00] | CyberKnet: | Translation Look-aside Buffer |
| [22:28:00] | CyberKnet: | jackass =) |
| [22:28:00] | mchou: | and what would it be good for? |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | yawn |
| [22:28:00] | TheAsp: | i take it he answered |
| [22:28:00] | awb4422: | mchou – didnt you talk to me once about going to University of Illinois? |
| [22:28:00] | Mek: | should I upgrade my nvidia drivers from 6111? |
| [22:28:00] | TheAsp: | though the answer is in dict |
| [22:28:00] | TheAsp: | :) |
| [22:28:00] | awb4422: | where's the alumni love? |
| [22:29:00] | CyberKnet: | holding a table of addresses from virtual addresses used in binary code |
| [22:29:00] | mchou: | let's find how out how much you really know. |
| [22:29:00] | TheAsp: | and wikipedia |
| [22:29:00] | Beirdo: | let's see how obnoxious mchou can get :) |
| [22:29:00] | mchou: | awb4422: doubt it. I'm not an IL alum. |
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| [22:29:00] | awb4422: | oh, i thought you played the violin here or something |
| [22:29:00] | BattousaiX: | If I'm getting no channel guide should I refetch the channel listings? I can change the channel and everything seems fine just don't have a clue what I'm watching. |
| [22:30:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: This guy out of the blue starts asking me what DMA stands for. Obvious he is doped up. |
| [22:30:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [22:30:00] | mchou: | awb4422: I got accepted to Urbana Chamagne, didn't mean I went there :) |
| [22:30:00] | awb4422: | ohhh |
| [22:31:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: All I was pointing out with the DMA thing was that you can't discount bad memory when a device driver is not working |
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| [22:32:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: especially when you already know that the driver makes extensive use of DMA to facilitate video transfer. |
| [22:32:00] | mchou: | lol. a device driver not working, yeah, I'd look at memory right away. NOT. |
| [22:32:00] | iggy: | BattousaiX: usually means you don't have a channel lineup associated with an input |
| [22:32:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: *shrug* ... do it your way. |
| [22:32:00] | iggy: | BattousaiX: go back to mythsetup, and look around for that |
| [22:33:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: *but* ... if he really did change nothing, then heat is the most likely candidate for the cause of the error. And the most likely things heat can do are: a) bust your cpu, bust your hdd and bust your memory. Sinceh e can boot up, 1 and 2 are not likely. 3 however, is still quite possible. That said, feel free to do it your own way, I really don't care. |
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| [22:34:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: much more likely he changed something rather than "heat" |
| [22:34:00] | mchou: | awb4422: what's the weather like in IL? :) |
| [22:34:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: indeed. But if someone wont tell you the truth, then what are you to do? |
| [22:34:00] | DigDug: | Anyone here happen to use a PVR-250 (blackbird/roslyn) and a VIA EPIA M10000 board? |
| [22:35:00] | DigDug: | With myth, that is. |
| [22:35:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: you draw out more info to prove he's lying :) |
| [22:35:00] | mchou: | not jump to some half cocked theory like DMA. |
| [22:36:00] | Beirdo: | blah blah blah |
| [22:36:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: go ahead then =) |
| [22:36:00] | Mek: | da dee dum |
| [22:37:00] | CyberKnet: | Mek: If that's for 500, then I'd like to answer "What is the hamster dance?" |
| [22:37:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [22:38:00] | Mek: | alex says no |
| [22:38:00] | CyberKnet: | hah |
| [22:39:00] | CyberKnet: | aah man. to miss the hamster dance website is to miss death. |
| [22:39:00] | CyberKnet: | ergo, I miss death. |
| [22:39:00] | CyberKnet: | ;P |
| [22:40:00] | ** Beirdo shoots CyberKnet ** | |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | problem solved |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:40:00] | CyberKnet: | thanks much |
| [22:40:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | ripping Isaac Hayes – Greatest Hit Singles |
| [22:41:00] | CyberKnet: | nice. |
| [22:41:00] | awb4422: | mchou: right now its 81 F |
| [22:41:00] | mchou: | wow, nice :) |
| [22:41:00] | mchou: | IL thawed? |
| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | what's that in not-American? |
| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:42:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: "Pretty Warm" |
| [22:42:00] | CyberKnet: | ;P" |
| [22:42:00] | awb4422: | lol |
| [22:42:00] | awb4422: | 27 C |
| [22:42:00] | awb4422: | is that good beirdo? |
| [22:42:00] | CyberKnet: | I was waiting for someone to TLB it. |
| [22:42:00] | mchou: | nowhere hot enough for heat problems |
| [22:43:00] | awb4422: | no, but its only april! |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | awb4422: where was that measured? |
| [22:43:00] | awb4422: | Willard Airport, Champaign, IL |
| [22:43:00] | CyberKnet: | awb4422: is that far from your computer? |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | who fucking cares how warm it is outside? |
| [22:43:00] | awb4422: | 2 miles |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | it's the temperature inside your computer case that matters |
| [22:43:00] | CyberKnet: | awb4422: In computer terms... that's a long way. |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | jeez |
| [22:43:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: But of course, mchou already knows this |
| [22:43:00] | awb4422: | i take that back Savoy, Illinois the airport is in I think |
| [22:44:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: That's why he asked about it instead of jumping to conclusions. |
| [22:44:00] | Mek: | maybe myth should display sensors output |
| [22:44:00] | CyberKnet: | Mek: My myth box already does. |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | I've had computer heat problems when it was below freezing outside. Outside temperature is irrelevant |
| [22:44:00] | CyberKnet: | Mek: hookup MythWeb to cacti to lm_sensors and voila, it's done. |
| [22:44:00] | Mek: | i mean in the "system info" menu item |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | Mythbrowser you mean :) |
| [22:45:00] | CyberKnet: | Mek: aha. |
| [22:45:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: err... no, but you could do that too. |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | Mek: we look forward to your patches |
| [22:45:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [22:45:00] | Mek: | good luck |
| [22:45:00] | Mek: | everytime i fiddle with my setup...it breaks. I ain't touching it |
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| [22:46:00] | CyberKnet: | Mek: really? Hmm... I have no problems with mine |
| [22:46:00] | Beirdo: | good choice |
| [22:47:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [22:48:00] | mchou: | awb4422: heh, it's only 68F in sunny california :) |
| [22:48:00] | mchou: | perfect spring weather. |
| [22:50:00] | mchou: | I think I'm gonna have to break down and buy that belkin wireless router for $10. |
| [22:50:00] | mchou: | waited long enough. |
| [22:52:00] | Mek: | G or A? |
| [22:52:00] | mchou: | g |
| [22:52:00] | Mek: | do share....where at? |
| [22:52:00] | mchou: | hackable in theory, but 2mb flash |
| [22:53:00] | mchou: | circuit city. |
| [22:53:00] | mchou: | $10 after rebates though. |
| [22:53:00] | mchou: | tax would be mor expense than after rebate price :) |
| [22:54:00] | mchou: | more* |
| [22:54:00] | mchou: | broadcom chipset. |
| [22:54:00] | Beirdo: | openwrt territory |
| [22:55:00] | mchou: | nah, 2mb is a tad small for openwrt. |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | it'd be tight but doable |
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| [22:55:00] | mchou: | I wonder if I can field upgrade the flash :) |
| [22:56:00] | mchou: | to higher capacity, that is :) |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | ya never know |
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| [22:57:00] | CyberKnet: | see you later Beirdo. |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | get bent :)... er seeya |
| [22:57:00] | ** CyberKnet notices Beirdo's bent "self" ** | |
| [22:57:00] | CyberKnet: | nice. |
| [22:57:00] | CyberKnet: | put it away though, wont you? |
| [22:57:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [22:58:00] | Beirdo: | ripping: Extreme – Pornograffiti |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | yeah, I need some lunch anyways. off to CC. |
| [22:58:00] | CyberKnet: | See... thinking of bent "self" made him want to eat. |
| [22:58:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [22:59:00] | Beirdo: | now be nice :) |
| [22:59:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
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| [22:59:00] | CyberKnet: | that _was_ nice. |
| [22:59:00] | Beirdo: | silly boy. go home |
| [22:59:00] | CyberKnet: | just imagine... a flamefest where even Satan could get burned... |
| [22:59:00] | CyberKnet: | that's what this could be =) |
| [22:59:00] | Beirdo: | your sheep is waiting |
| [22:59:00] | CyberKnet: | mmmmm... lamb |
| [22:59:00] | CyberKnet: | giddyup! |
| [22:59:00] | CyberKnet: | later. |
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| [23:06:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I'm out for a while |
| [23:06:00] | gratuit: | ok, so this might be a kind of hardware specific question, but I don't know where else to ask, I have a wintv-pvr 150, and I installed the ivtv drivers and all, but when I watch tv, the right side of the screen is cut off, anyone know why this would happen? |
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| [23:10:00] | xris: | gratuit: pvr-150 doesn't support scaling |
| [23:10:00] | xris: | record at 720x480 and you'll be fine. |
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| [23:16:00] | gratuit: | xris: thanks, that works great when I cat /dev/video0, but mythtv keeps trying to set it back to 480x480 every time I run it, where can I change this? |
| [23:17:00] | iggy: | in the recording profiles |
| [23:17:00] | iggy: | you'll have to change all of them to use 720x480 |
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| [23:21:00] | gratuit: | nice, it works now |
| [23:22:00] | gratuit: | except.... there is a line at the top of the video. It looks like the first coupld lines of pixels are just garbage, anyone know what would cause that? |
| [23:23:00] | Grant-: | I have the same problem |
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| [23:24:00] | iggy: | it's vbi data |
| [23:24:00] | iggy: | it's normally cutoff by the overscan |
| [23:24:00] | gratuit: | is there any way to drop it out of the video? |
| [23:24:00] | iggy: | but the 150's don't support cropping yet either, so.... |
| [23:24:00] | gratuit: | ah |
| [23:24:00] | iggy: | you can set an output filter |
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| [23:25:00] | gratuit: | is that a driver thing or a hardware thing? |
| [23:25:00] | iggy: | mythtv thing |
| [23:25:00] | gratuit: | I meant the fact that they don't support cropping |
| [23:26:00] | iggy: | "In the playback filter settings, I added the text |
| [23:26:00] | iggy: | "crop=1:0:0:0" which will crop off a 16 pixel band at the top of my |
| [23:26:00] | iggy: | screen." |
| [23:26:00] | iggy: | that was sent to the ivtv-devel list recently |
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| [23:27:00] | marmoset: | man, now I wish I sprung for next day shipping on my 500 instead of the free super saver, I hate waiting for stuff ;) |
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| [23:29:00] | gratuit: | marmoset: I know how you feel, I just ordered parts for a whole new computer(hence using the old one as a PVR) I check the tracking site like once an hour |
| [23:29:00] | marmoset: | hehe, yup |
| [23:29:00] | marmoset: | GO FASTER MR UPS TRUCK |
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| [23:37:00] | marmoset: | anyone running a frontend on an epia? |
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