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| [00:03:00] | xris: | Mrgoose: some |
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| [00:11:00] | o_cee: | good work. |
| [00:12:00] | o_cee: | and to answer your question fall0ut, have a look at mythweb. |
| [00:12:00] | fall0ut: | I dont wanna stream music |
| [00:13:00] | fall0ut: | I want to control the box |
| [00:13:00] | fall0ut: | I found the thread on using a fifo and writing out LIRC commands to the FIFO |
| [00:13:00] | fall0ut: | which I may actually a perl script to do so I can use via my ipaq over bluetooth networking |
| [00:13:00] | fall0ut: | But I was wondering if someone out there has already done something else similar |
| [00:14:00] | o_cee: | stream music? |
| [00:14:00] | fall0ut: | I want to control the mythtv box from the web |
| [00:14:00] | o_cee: | yeees, please see my previous answer. |
| [00:14:00] | fall0ut: | e.g. when I use mythweb now it just wants me to stream/download the mp3 |
| [00:15:00] | o_cee: | right, so you want to control _mythmusic_? |
| [00:15:00] | fall0ut: | yes |
| [00:15:00] | fall0ut: | or hell, just simulate keypresses |
| [00:15:00] | o_cee: | and where did you say that in your original question? how do you think anyone could have guessed that? |
| [00:15:00] | fall0ut: | I said I don't wnat to stream music |
| [00:15:00] | fall0ut: | I want to control the box |
| [00:16:00] | o_cee: | "fall0ut So are there any web frontends that let you control mythtv?" but anyway, no. you can't, not if you are looking for stable software. |
| [00:16:00] | o_cee: | mfd/mfe does it, but it's not considered stable |
| [00:16:00] | fall0ut: | well thats about useless hah |
| [00:17:00] | fall0ut: | hrm |
| [00:17:00] | fall0ut: | mythmusic is also terribly slow |
| [00:17:00] | fall0ut: | with about 4k songs in there |
| [00:17:00] | fall0ut: | I have no desire to use mythtv to record or watch TV... just music |
| [00:18:00] | o_cee: | then i think you can find better programs, especially if you're not using it on a tv... |
| [00:18:00] | fall0ut: | there isn't a whole lot out there |
| [00:18:00] | o_cee: | mpd is a headless daemon |
| [00:18:00] | fall0ut: | I didn't want headless |
| [00:18:00] | fall0ut: | I've got a 17" LCD mounted there with it |
| [00:19:00] | fall0ut: | eventually I might use it for watching tv |
| [00:19:00] | o_cee: | right. don't have any good suggestion. look at mp3car.com maybe |
| [00:19:00] | o_cee: | or whatever they're called |
| [00:19:00] | fall0ut: | hrm |
| [00:19:00] | fall0ut: | Ok, so assuming I can't remotely control it (yet) |
| [00:19:00] | fall0ut: | why is mythmusic so slow? |
| [00:20:00] | o_cee: | haven't used it in a while, can't say it was slow when i did though |
| [00:20:00] | TheAsp: | its slow? |
| [00:20:00] | fall0ut: | moving through the playlist is painfully slow |
| [00:20:00] | o_cee: | it's slow building the db, but not after that |
| [00:20:00] | o_cee: | reads all id3's and stuff |
| [00:20:00] | fall0ut: | yea |
| [00:20:00] | fall0ut: | that took about 10mins |
| [00:20:00] | fall0ut: | to pull in all 4k songs |
| [00:20:00] | fall0ut: | but moving through the songs is slow |
| [00:21:00] | o_cee: | shouldn't be |
| [00:21:00] | fall0ut: | anywhere to start looking at that? |
| [00:21:00] | o_cee: | see if there's any errors |
| [00:21:00] | fall0ut: | getting... |
| [00:21:00] | fall0ut: | parameter out of range |
| [00:21:00] | fall0ut: | qdatetime::fromstring |
| [00:21:00] | fall0ut: | thats about it |
| [00:22:00] | fall0ut: | the box is more than fast enough (i'd hope) |
| [00:22:00] | o_cee: | look at --verbose, maybe that'll show more. other than that, i don't know. |
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| [00:24:00] | fall0ut: | granted |
| [00:24:00] | fall0ut: | the playlist is like 4k songs |
| [00:25:00] | fall0ut: | but it should be faster than that I would think |
| [00:25:00] | xris: | mythmusic is horribly slow |
| [00:25:00] | xris: | HORRIBLY slow. |
| [00:26:00] | fall0ut: | and doesn't compile well on 64bit either |
| [00:26:00] | fall0ut: | I wonder if its a GL accel issue with the plugins |
| [00:26:00] | fall0ut: | the visualizations anyway |
| [00:27:00] | fall0ut: | mythfrontend/xorg is using like 3–4% CPU a piece |
| [00:27:00] | mishehu: | mythmusic is a dog. |
| [00:27:00] | mishehu: | and that dog should be shot. if I had time and know-how, I'd write a replacement for it. |
| [00:27:00] | mishehu: | heh |
| [00:27:00] | TheAsp: | oh, i use album cover for my visualization |
| [00:27:00] | TheAsp: | :P |
| [00:28:00] | fall0ut: | I guess I should have researched this better before I went mythtv :( |
| [00:28:00] | o_cee: | mishehu, very easy to say. |
| [00:29:00] | mishehu: | o_cee: oh, I know it is. thats why I don't expect anybody to think I'm doing anything other than spewing out an opinion... |
| [00:29:00] | LedHed: | if I had the time and know-how I'd make a time machine |
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| [00:29:00] | mishehu: | and we all know that opinions are like assholes... we all got them, and they all stink. |
| [00:29:00] | mishehu: | heh |
| [00:30:00] | LedHed: | I'm not a dog. I dont go around sniffing other peoples buts. nor my own for that matter |
| [00:30:00] | LedHed: | but I do have plenty of stinky opinions |
| [00:30:00] | fall0ut: | ok, I was right |
| [00:30:00] | fall0ut: | nvidia glx problems |
| [00:30:00] | fall0ut: | installed the nvidia glx drivers |
| [00:31:00] | fall0ut: | and we're golden |
| [00:31:00] | fall0ut: | its quick |
| [00:31:00] | fall0ut: | even with 4000 songs in the playlist |
| [00:31:00] | o_cee: | great :) |
| [00:31:00] | Andrew: | hey guys, i was having trouble using lirc native support with myth so i started using irxevent – whats the name i should use to only control myth so i can redefine controls for xine and mplayer? |
| [00:31:00] | LedHed: | mishehu: daily showers will fix your funk problem |
| [00:32:00] | fall0ut: | so what kind of boxes is everybody running this on? |
| [00:32:00] | TheAsp: | andrew: there is none |
| [00:33:00] | TheAsp: | andrew: if you dont set it to irxevent, irxevent wont get the signal |
| [00:33:00] | LedHed: | athlon 1.8 underclocked to 1.35 nforce2 Mobo, nVidia GF440mx, 256mb ram on all my frontends |
| [00:33:00] | StringBlade: | fallout: amd k7 2600+ 512MB RAm 500GB HDD |
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| [00:33:00] | fall0ut: | so fairly large machines |
| [00:33:00] | TheAsp: | andrew: you can setup some sorta switching system where it sends different keys for different modes |
| [00:33:00] | fall0ut: | k |
| [00:33:00] | StringBlade: | oh, I'm using NVidia Geforce FX 5500+ |
| [00:33:00] | StringBlade: | w/ DVI out to tV |
| [00:33:00] | TheAsp: | andrew: or get native lirc working |
| [00:33:00] | TheAsp: | :P |
| [00:33:00] | riksta: | anyone on 2.6.10/11 having bttv errors (IRQ lockups etc?) lately? |
| [00:34:00] | StringBlade: | fallout: mine's acting as both a frontend, backend, streaming mp3 server, and webserver |
| [00:34:00] | LedHed: | Mobile Athlon XP @ 1500mhz, 512mb ram, nForce2, GF440mx, 800gb RAID 5 |
| [00:34:00] | fall0ut: | my box is a athlon64 3200+ w/ a gig of ram |
| [00:34:00] | LedHed: | on my server |
| [00:34:00] | fall0ut: | I just put it together yesterday |
| [00:34:00] | LedHed: | overkill |
| [00:34:00] | LedHed: | unless you are doing HD |
| [00:34:00] | fall0ut: | I'm not doing TV at all |
| [00:34:00] | Andrew: | TheAsp, i mean, i specified CurrentWindow as of now, but im saying can't you specify a process instead? |
| [00:35:00] | fall0ut: | just music |
| [00:35:00] | fall0ut: | its the only motherboard I had layin around |
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| [00:35:00] | LedHed: | ah, then WAY OVERKILL |
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| [00:35:00] | fall0ut: | whats the fave distro? |
| [00:35:00] | TheAsp: | Andrew: thats covered in the man page... |
| [00:35:00] | StringBlade: | FC3 here |
| [00:36:00] | fall0ut: | I used ubuntu/hoary |
| [00:36:00] | LedHed: | I like FC1, but am using FC3 right now. Deb, and Gentoo are also popular |
| [00:36:00] | fall0ut: | had it up and running within about 30mins |
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| [00:36:00] | Andrew: | TheAsp, of irxevent? becuase i tried just about every combination of myth, mythfrontend, mythtv and the rest and its no dice, only current window works. |
| [00:36:00] | fall0ut: | after I loaded the 386 version back on... |
| [00:36:00] | fall0ut: | mythmusic doesn't compile on amd64 |
| [00:36:00] | fall0ut: | :( |
| [00:36:00] | TheAsp: | mythfrontend |
| [00:36:00] | TheAsp: | should work |
| [00:37:00] | mishehu: | fall0ut: what distro you running w/your amd64? |
| [00:37:00] | fall0ut: | mishehu: ubuntu |
| [00:37:00] | mishehu: | I'm having problems with slamd64 |
| [00:37:00] | fall0ut: | I was gonna do Ubuntu w/ amd64 |
| [00:37:00] | fall0ut: | but mythmusic doesnt compile on the arch |
| [00:37:00] | fall0ut: | so I went back to i386 |
| [00:37:00] | mishehu: | but I think the problem might be related the crappy Sil 3114 softraid... |
| [00:38:00] | Andrew: | i tried that several times, but i guess im going to be doing it again – for some reason native lirc doesnt want to work with my hardware – it works with irw, but in myth it pauses, flashes hard, then does the command, so it works....but it sure as hell isnt pretty or functional |
| [00:38:00] | TheAsp: | isnt myth IN ubuntu? atleast universe |
| [00:38:00] | StringBlade: | Andrew: did you compile myth yourself and uncomment the lirc support in the settings.pro? |
| [00:38:00] | fall0ut: | TheAsp: yes |
| [00:38:00] | fall0ut: | but mythmusic isn't in the amd64 |
| [00:38:00] | fall0ut: | because it doesn't compile hah |
| [00:38:00] | fall0ut: | :) |
| [00:38:00] | TheAsp: | oh |
| [00:38:00] | TheAsp: | :P |
| [00:38:00] | fall0ut: | and seeing that all I want is music |
| [00:39:00] | Andrew: | StringBlade, no, i installed from RPM (shortcut probably is a longcut...) do you think compiling myth myself is the way to go? |
| [00:39:00] | StringBlade: | Andrew: oh, I've heard of that happening before |
| [00:39:00] | StringBlade: | you could try it |
| [00:39:00] | StringBlade: | but I don't know of a sure-fire solution for your situation |
| [00:39:00] | Andrew: | StringBlade, do you remember what the solution was? |
| [00:39:00] | fall0ut: | TV is evil |
| [00:40:00] | StringBlade: | Andrew: I never ran across a solution. Did you check the mailing lists for a possible answer? |
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| [00:40:00] | StringBlade: | fall0ut: then why play with a PVR project? |
| [00:40:00] | fall0ut: | Music |
| [00:40:00] | fall0ut: | I want a jukebox with a nice frontend |
| [00:40:00] | StringBlade: | there's lots of music-only projects |
| [00:40:00] | fall0ut: | nothing that has a decent frontend |
| [00:40:00] | Andrew: | StringBlade, I looked for a long time with no avail – and i couldnt post becuase i really don't know how...but irxevent seems to be a substitiution for now... |
| [00:40:00] | fall0ut: | plus one day I may do TV |
| [00:40:00] | fall0ut: | the mythtvideo stuff is ncie, too |
| [00:40:00] | StringBlade: | when it's less evil |
| [00:41:00] | fall0ut: | exactly |
| [00:41:00] | StringBlade: | Andrew: to post, you have to sign up to the mailing list – myth.org has info in the Documentation on how to do that |
| [00:42:00] | Andrew: | StringBlade, for what its worth, if i can get irxevent to send the signal to ONLY myth and not just the current window i'd be more than happy |
| [00:42:00] | StringBlade: | I'm tweaking mythvideo on mine a little to play mirrored DVDs from the HD |
| [00:43:00] | fall0ut: | this thing is a little nicer than an XBox w/ xbmc |
| [00:43:00] | fall0ut: | a lot more flexible anyway |
| [00:43:00] | StringBlade: | Andrew: sorry, not familiar enough with irxevent. In my experience it sends the signal to ALL processes that have an action defined for the button |
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| [00:45:00] | fall0ut: | ok, so any easy way to control myth from the command line? |
| [00:45:00] | Andrew: | StringBlade, do you remember how they described the problem, it might help with my searches |
| [00:45:00] | hadees: | irxevent is like you pushing a key on the key board |
| [00:46:00] | Andrew: | hadees, right, but i believe you can tell it to only send the key press to a specific window |
| [00:46:00] | hadees: | internal lirc support is the way ot go |
| [00:46:00] | Andrew: | hadees, if i didnt have a problem getting it working, it would be |
| [00:46:00] | StringBlade: | Andrew: they described it as you did |
| [00:46:00] | hadees: | Andrew, i think you can do something with window focus but internal support is the way to go |
| [00:46:00] | StringBlade: | a hard flash |
| [00:47:00] | hadees: | hadees, you have other problems if internal lirc won't work |
| [00:48:00] | hadees: | Andrew, does irw work? and have you run lircd in non spawn mode and started mythfrontend? |
| [00:48:00] | Andrew: | hadees, irw works like a charm, and running in non-spawn mode? i dont know what you mean, but i have it load as a process |
| [00:49:00] | hadees: | man lircd |
| [00:49:00] | hadees: | there is a non daemon or non spawn mode |
| [00:49:00] | Andrew: | myth responds correctly after it does its flash things |
| [00:49:00] | hadees: | its a command line option |
| [00:49:00] | Andrew: | hurm – you say i should be running in non-spawn mode? whats the difference? |
| [00:49:00] | hadees: | did you put the lircrc file in .mythtv/lircrc |
| [00:50:00] | hadees: | Andrew, it will not spawn off and will print information back to the shell window |
| [00:50:00] | hadees: | so you can see if the connection is failing |
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| [00:50:00] | hadees: | when mythtv trys to connect with it's internal support |
| [00:51:00] | Andrew: | hurm, very interesting...i was looking for some sort of output – i'm going to try that tonight – hopefully it'll shed some light on the situation...thanks a bunch |
| [00:51:00] | hadees: | what about your lircrc file is it in the right place? |
| [00:51:00] | StringBlade: | anyone here ever used mythPhone? |
| [00:51:00] | Andrew: | yes, its in the correct place – myth does go ahead and perform the correct command, it just does its little dance beforehand |
| [00:53:00] | hadees: | a good idea is also to do a system link between ~/.lirc and ~/.mythtv/lirc |
| [00:53:00] | hadees: | oops |
| [00:53:00] | hadees: | lircrc |
| [00:53:00] | hadees: | not lirc for both of them |
| [00:53:00] | hadees: | and that should be to not and |
| [00:54:00] | StringBlade: | in other words, .lircrc and .mythtv/lircrc should be different files, not a symlink? |
| [00:55:00] | fall0ut: | ok, so running mythtv without a window manager |
| [00:55:00] | fall0ut: | when mplayer plays a movie |
| [00:55:00] | fall0ut: | you can't quit/exit mplayer |
| [00:55:00] | fall0ut: | what window manager should I use then? |
| [00:55:00] | StringBlade: | q doesn't quit? |
| [00:55:00] | StringBlade: | or esc |
| [00:55:00] | fall0ut: | no |
| [00:55:00] | StringBlade: | I forget which |
| [00:55:00] | fall0ut: | neither does |
| [00:55:00] | StringBlade: | what about xine? |
| [00:55:00] | StringBlade: | I know q will quit xine |
| [00:55:00] | fall0ut: | well |
| [00:55:00] | Beirdo: | it's an issue of not having focus |
| [00:56:00] | fall0ut: | yea |
| [00:56:00] | StringBlade: | gotcha |
| [00:56:00] | StringBlade: | kinda thought if that's the only thing running, you'd have focus |
| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | it's not |
| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | mythtv is running and mplayer |
| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | count em... 2. |
| [00:56:00] | StringBlade: | wouldn't focus be on mplayer because it was created last |
| [00:56:00] | fall0ut: | yea |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | with no window manager there's no guarantee what has focus |
| [00:57:00] | StringBlade: | meh |
| [00:57:00] | StringBlade: | that's why I use one |
| [00:57:00] | fall0ut: | so what window manager to use? |
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| [00:58:00] | Semhirage: | im running gentoo, and trying to emerge mythtv, do i need mythtv or just mythtv-frontend? |
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| [00:58:00] | Beirdo: | fluxbox, blackbox, etc |
| [01:00:00] | fall0ut: | k |
| [01:01:00] | fall0ut: | now, how to make mythtv read lirc input from a fifo |
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| [01:01:00] | dmorrigan: | Afternoon all |
| [01:01:00] | dmorrigan: | Is there a way to merge two backend servers into one? |
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| [01:05:00] | LedHed: | night all |
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| [01:13:00] | fall0ut: | ok, so what tells mythtv where to look for lirc shit |
| [01:15:00] | riksta: | thank god, think i've finally fixed my bttv lockup problems |
| [01:15:00] | riksta: | and it was something stupid i forgot to check |
| [01:15:00] | riksta: | i must have enabled APIC support in my kernel again, stupidly |
| [01:15:00] | riksta: | and then forgotten |
| [01:15:00] | riksta: | but i'll reserve judgement, till it's been running a while :) (only 10 mins atm :) |
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| [01:28:00] | riksta: | GOD DAMN!!! |
| [01:28:00] | riksta: | i spoke too soon |
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| [01:30:00] | riksta: | it's whenever there is big HDD activity |
| [01:30:00] | riksta: | i get |
| [01:30:00] | riksta: | bttv0: OCERR @ 35f3d014,bits: HSYNC OFLOW RISCI* OCERR* |
| [01:30:00] | riksta: | bttv0: OCERR @ 35f3d01c,bits: OFLOW PPERR OCERR* |
| [01:30:00] | riksta: | bttv0: OCERR @ 35f3d01c,bits: OFLOW RISCI* OCERR* |
| [01:30:00] | riksta: | bttv0: OCERR @ 35f3d01c,bits: HSYNC OFLOW RISCI* OCERR* |
| [01:30:00] | riksta: | etc |
| [01:31:00] | mchou: | riksta: heh, I think you should buy a pvr250 instead :) |
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| [01:36:00] | DIrEctQL: | hey, how can I setup commercial removal |
| [01:36:00] | TheAsp: | riksta: dma on? |
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| [01:40:00] | DIrEctQL: | anyone? |
| [01:40:00] | torrap: | i enjoy the mode that is created by leaving a frontend on live tv when shows are scheduled. In this mode the frontend switches to whatever is currently on. Is there a way to get into this "mode" when all tuners are all used ? |
| [01:42:00] | dev-: | anyone happen to know if you gotta do anything special other than rolling back qt3.3.3 on gentoo? other than clearing the database and stuff, im doing that ;) (one hour ahead problem) |
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| [01:42:00] | andr3www: | yay 4 canada |
| [01:44:00] | Andrew: | StringBlade, i have a quick question – if i were to try and compile mythtv – how many dependencies do i have to resolve? im using fc3 and i don't want to waste a day on solving deps |
| [01:44:00] | dev-: | first time setting up myth takes a while |
| [01:44:00] | dev-: | but its a good learning experience :) |
| [01:44:00] | dev-: | after dealing with bad onboard video, took me just about a week :) |
| [01:45:00] | dev-: | but i had to learn gentoo too, not just myth heh |
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| [01:49:00] | dmorrigan: | On a slave backend do I run mythbackend? |
| [01:49:00] | Beirdo: | yes, otherwise it isn't a backend |
| [01:50:00] | dmorrigan: | My master is NOT picking up the tuner in it ... |
| [01:50:00] | dmorrigan: | I had two machines working independently and thought it would be nice to be able to watch one and record one |
| [01:51:00] | dmorrigan: | So I am trying to setup one as a slave backend and one as a master |
| [01:51:00] | dmorrigan: | On my master it says one tuner is unavailable |
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| [01:52:00] | dmorrigan: | I setup the slave backends tuner in mythtvsetup on the slave. Was that right? The instructions on this are a little confusing |
| [01:53:00] | Beirdo: | yes. |
| [01:53:00] | Beirdo: | make sure you set the master backend IP correctly |
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| [01:54:00] | dmorrigan: | Do I put the masters IP in both spots in mythtvsetup? Or just the backend spot? |
| [01:54:00] | dmorrigan: | And is there an order to the startup? Master first or it doesn't matter? |
| [01:55:00] | Beirdo: | you need to set the master IP in the master IP spot |
| [01:55:00] | Beirdo: | and on the master backend, in the backend IP as well |
| [01:55:00] | Beirdo: | the documentation's pretty clear, I thought |
| [01:55:00] | dmorrigan: | Ok got the IP correct then |
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| [01:58:00] | dmorrigan: | On the slave it's giving a MySQL error saying it cannot connect to the local DB |
| [01:59:00] | dmorrigan: | it's = mythbackend |
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| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | then you have your mysql not setup right, likely |
| [02:00:00] | dmorrigan: | BRB Let me check again |
| [02:00:00] | dmorrigan: | Wait does MySQL need to be running on the slave backend? Someone told me it didn't/ |
| [02:00:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [02:00:00] | dmorrigan: | Ok BRB then |
| [02:00:00] | Beirdo: | it needs to be on one place only |
| [02:09:00] | dmorrigan: | Ok. The slave keeps trying to connect to a socket. Is there a config file I missed? |
| [02:09:00] | Beirdo: | mysql.txt |
| [02:09:00] | dmorrigan: | In /home/mythtv/.mythtv/? |
| [02:10:00] | Beirdo: | think so |
| [02:10:00] | dmorrigan: | My DBHostName is my master's IP |
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| [02:15:00] | dmorrigan: | My masters mysql server is listening on 3306 like it's supposed to. The slave is just not trying to connect to it. It's using the local socket interface. |
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| [02:20:00] | torrap: | i enjoy the mode that is created by leaving a frontend on live tv when shows are scheduled. In this mode the frontend switches to whatever is currently on. Is there a way to get into this "mode" when all tuners are all used ? |
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| [02:21:00] | Mrgoose: | hello |
| [02:21:00] | Mrgoose: | anyone here good at dialog coding |
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| [02:38:00] | vicodan: | where can I get the cvs version of myth? |
| [02:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | from the cvs server ?:) |
| [02:39:00] | vicodan: | heh |
| [02:39:00] | vicodan: | yeah what is it? |
| [02:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | what is what? cvs ? |
| [02:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you don't know what cvs is, are you sure you want to run the cvs version of myth ?:) |
| [02:40:00] | vicodan: | i know what cvs is |
| [02:40:00] | vicodan: | where is the cvs server |
| [02:40:00] | vicodan: | better yet...is the cvs version the only version that has the 1-hour bug fixed? |
| [02:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | There are docs on mythtv.org that will give you the address |
| [02:41:00] | vicodan: | hmm, i checked but couldnt find it |
| [02:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm running .17 release and am not affected. IT depends on what version of QT you are running whether or not you are affected |
| [02:41:00] | vicodan: | i have the newest qt |
| [02:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | but if you are running an affect QT, and don't want to move it back to one that wasn't affected then yes, CVS is the answer |
| [02:41:00] | vicodan: | 3.3.4 |
| [02:41:00] | dmorrigan: | Any suggestions to my mysql issue Beirdo? |
| [02:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's the version that has the problem |
| [02:42:00] | vicodan: | yeh...so my frontend is .16 on an xbox |
| [02:42:00] | vicodan: | is putting the backend on cvs gonna mess it up? |
| [02:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | possibly, never tried it. |
| [02:43:00] | vicodan: | or would downgrading qt be the best? |
| [02:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Can't remember what exactly changed protocol wise |
| [02:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | vicodan: It's certainly the easiest option :) |
| [02:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | At least for most people, unless you really need that QT version |
| [02:43:00] | vicodan: | i dont think i do |
| [02:44:00] | vicodan: | any timeframe on the next mythtv official release? |
| [02:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | tonight was last I was told |
| [02:44:00] | vicodan: | oh serious? rock |
| [02:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | but that depended on if Isaac had the time, |
| [02:45:00] | vicodan: | well, soon though |
| [02:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | otherwise "soon" |
| [02:45:00] | vicodan: | yeah |
| [02:45:00] | vicodan: | ill just downgrade qt and wait until official release since its soon |
| [02:45:00] | vicodan: | thanks for the help |
| [02:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | you need to shutdown the backend, clear the program table from mysql |
| [02:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | downgrade qt |
| [02:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | launch the backend |
| [02:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | and rerun mythfilldatabase |
| [02:45:00] | vicodan: | there's docs to clear the program table? |
| [02:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's what worked for most people |
| [02:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | vicodan: not that I'm aware of |
| [02:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | you need to login to mysql and do it manually. |
| [02:46:00] | vicodan: | do you know the sql command? |
| [02:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | delete from program; |
| [02:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | or programs |
| [02:46:00] | dmorrigan: | GreyFoxx, do you know how to setup a slave backend? |
| [02:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | can't remeber if it has an s or not :) |
| [02:46:00] | vicodan: | GreyFoxx: heh ok |
| [02:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | dmorrigan: I've never tried, but I'm 99% sure I saw it in the mythtv.org docs |
| [02:47:00] | dmorrigan: | I tried following that and it's not working |
| [02:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-21.ht . . . ckend_config |
| [02:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahh |
| [02:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've not had reason to try it personally |
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| [02:59:00] | defaultro: | anyone around who's using firewire? |
| [02:59:00] | defaultro: | for hd capture :) |
| [03:11:00] | vicodan: | GreyFoxx: awesome, its fixed now |
| [03:11:00] | vicodan: | GreyFoxx: thanks |
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| [03:13:00] | daved: | my mythtv is trying to do a db upgrade it has already done |
| [03:13:00] | dmorrigan: | On my slave server I am getting: Unknown encoder: 7 |
| [03:13:00] | daved: | how can i make it stop trying? |
| [03:13:00] | dmorrigan: | Anyone know what is causing that? |
| [03:15:00] | daved: | if anyone knows, please tell me.. my backend is down |
| [03:16:00] | Captain_Murdoch_: | doesn't sound like current CVS and that has been answered a few times on the mailing list, so you might search there for detailed instructions. |
| [03:16:00] | Captain_Murdoch_: | ^^^ that was to daved. |
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| [03:22:00] | dmorrigan: | Ok got it figured out. |
| [03:23:00] | dmorrigan: | I have 3 tuners available now ;-P |
| [03:23:00] | fith: | slightly off topic... are the Sony Grand Wega's any good? Any other screens I should look that are comparable? (~43") |
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| [03:28:00] | StringBlade: | dmorrigan: so what did you do? |
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| [03:37:00] | Zugot: | what is the difference between a pvr150 and a pvr250? |
| [03:38:00] | NemLappy^: | still 100 |
| [03:38:00] | NemLappy^: | :-) |
| [03:40:00] | Cromz: | I was gonna say that! |
| [03:40:00] | Cromz: | heh |
| [03:40:00] | NemLappy^: | Ah ... it was a follow on from the question being asked in the devs channel |
| [03:41:00] | NemLappy^: | TBH .. I always think google when people ask stuff like that .. maybe I'm just unkind |
| [03:41:00] | NemLappy^: | :-) |
| [03:44:00] | Cromz: | my wife said the same thing.. why not google it. |
| [03:44:00] | Cromz: | I trianed her well :> |
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| [03:50:00] | quink: | no .18? |
| [03:55:00] | Zugot: | ah... |
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| [04:13:00] | torrap: | i enjoy the mode that is created by leaving a frontend on live tv when shows are scheduled. In this mode the frontend switches to whatever is currently on. Is there a way to get into this "mode" when all tuners are all used ? |
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| [05:11:00] | Mrgoose: | Beirdo |
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| [05:11:00] | Beirdo: | what? |
| [05:11:00] | nicedreams: | I keep getting "mythtv-setup: cannot connect to X server" and I'm logged in as mythtv. How can I fix this by giving mythtv access to X? |
| [05:12:00] | mini-morfic: | nicedreams: mythtv didnt start X? |
| [05:12:00] | nicedreams: | no |
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| [05:12:00] | NightMonkey: | nicedreams: You'll need to have X running somewhere to run mythsetup. |
| [05:12:00] | mini-morfic: | the user who started it would need to issue an xhost, xhost + for a all wide open not secure but works to test kind of way |
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| [05:13:00] | mini-morfic: | read the xhost docs then for more specific info |
| [05:13:00] | NightMonkey: | nicedreams: If you ssh into your mythbox from a PC running X with "ssh -X <mythboxhostname>", then run mythsetup, it'll appear on your PC, if you're using most stock installs of X. |
| [05:13:00] | nicedreams: | i get "access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost'" when I'm logged into X and type it from within a terminal |
| [05:14:00] | nicedreams: | i'm trying to run mythtv-setup after installing it. I'm using Ubuntu |
| [05:14:00] | rpete: | you should be able to run it as normal user, shouldn't you? |
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| [05:15:00] | nicedreams: | i thought i would be, but can't |
| [05:16:00] | mini-morfic: | nicedreams: from x terminal from the user that started X 'xhost +' |
| [05:17:00] | mini-morfic: | mythsetup runs as any user here |
| [05:17:00] | mini-morfic: | only thing that needs to be mythtv is the mysql user/pass which is what it was default |
| [05:17:00] | rpete: | right, so maybe that's the real problem with normal user |
| [05:18:00] | nicedreams: | if i changed the mythtv password, would that be the problem? |
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| [05:18:00] | rpete: | do you get database connection error? |
| [05:18:00] | nicedreams: | no |
| [05:18:00] | nicedreams: | yea |
| [05:18:00] | nicedreams: | my bad |
| [05:18:00] | nicedreams: | yea |
| [05:19:00] | nicedreams: | how do i change my sql password to match my mythtv one |
| [05:23:00] | mini-morfic: | just make sure what you setup in mythtvfrontend matches what mysql looks for |
| [05:24:00] | nicedreams: | after you apt-get install mythtv, you just mythtv-setup right? |
| [05:25:00] | mini-morfic: | after you install it you just follow the step by step docs on the mythtv setup, then when you get stuck with audio only over patch cable working you kindly ask in here for assistance ;) |
| [05:26:00] | mini-morfic: | s/setup/website/ |
| [05:26:00] | nicedreams: | thx |
| [05:27:00] | rpete: | nicedreams, you've setup mysql priveleges? |
| [05:28:00] | RDMustang: | anyone know why mythtv won't let me click any buttons? like when I go to quit it says "Do you really want to exit MythTV" and there is a Yes and a No button.. When I choose a button nothing happens.. I have to kill the process to quit... |
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| [05:28:00] | nicedreams: | rpete: no |
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| [05:29:00] | abarbaccia: | hey – how do i make somethign a service? |
| [05:29:00] | abarbaccia: | i want to make irxevent start at boot as a service preferrably |
| [05:29:00] | rpete: | nicedreams, mysql -u root mysql |
| [05:30:00] | nicedreams: | rpete: got an access denied and I was root |
| [05:30:00] | nicedreams: | exit |
| [05:30:00] | nicedreams: | oopt |
| [05:30:00] | nicedreams: | oops |
| [05:30:00] | rpete: | nicedreams, then mysql -u root -p mysql |
| [05:30:00] | rpete: | and give your root passwd |
| [05:31:00] | nicedreams: | k |
| [05:31:00] | nicedreams: | i'm in a mysql shell now |
| [05:32:00] | rpete: | okay, need to know what machines you'll be connecting from |
| [05:32:00] | rpete: | like, just localhost, or 192.168.0.*, or what? |
| [05:32:00] | nicedreams: | localhost for the meantime |
| [05:33:00] | rpete: | grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@'localhost' identified by 'PASSWORD'; |
| [05:33:00] | rpete: | where PASSWORD is whatever you've decided, and using the default mythtv username |
| [05:34:00] | nicedreams: | gives me a |
| [05:34:00] | nicedreams: | >> |
| [05:34:00] | nicedreams: | -> |
| [05:34:00] | rpete: | did you end with ; |
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| [05:34:00] | nicedreams: | oops |
| [05:34:00] | rpete: | just type the ; |
| [05:34:00] | rpete: | then, flush privileges; |
| [05:35:00] | RDMustang: | nobody have any ideas? |
| [05:35:00] | nicedreams: | i have an error at line 1 from what you typed cut and paste |
| [05:36:00] | nicedreams: | nvm |
| [05:36:00] | nicedreams: | works now |
| [05:36:00] | nicedreams: | my bad |
| [05:36:00] | mag0o: | rdmustang, on all buttons or just when exiting? |
| [05:36:00] | mag0o: | perhaps youre losing window focus |
| [05:36:00] | RDMustang: | all buttons |
| [05:36:00] | RDMustang: | escape works to bring me back to the menu |
| [05:36:00] | RDMustang: | but I can't select any buttons |
| [05:37:00] | nicedreams: | i got it working |
| [05:37:00] | nicedreams: | thx a lot rpete |
| [05:37:00] | rpete: | nicedreams, mythtvsetup working? |
| [05:37:00] | nicedreams: | now i understand what the documentation was saying |
| [05:37:00] | nicedreams: | yea |
| [05:37:00] | rpete: | nicedreams, when you want other frontends on your network, you'll have to do it again |
| [05:38:00] | rpete: | nicedreams, in my case, all my frontends are on local net, so it was: grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@'192.168.0.%' identified by 'PASSWORD'; |
| [05:39:00] | nicedreams: | well this sucks...i can run mythtv-setup, but now I can't start the backend |
| [05:39:00] | RDMustang: | :( |
| [05:39:00] | nicedreams: | i get "authentication rejected" error |
| [05:41:00] | NightMonkey: | nicedreams: You probably need to give some TLC to your mysql permissions. |
| [05:41:00] | nicedreams: | so i have to know sql to get this working? |
| [05:41:00] | NightMonkey: | nicedreams: I think a lot of people just allow any access from the localhost. |
| [05:41:00] | NightMonkey: | nicedreams: Not that I'm reccomending that ;). |
| [05:41:00] | nicedreams: | how do i do that then |
| [05:42:00] | NightMonkey: | nicedreams: Well, yes, you could learn Mysql. I think, though, that the docs on mythtv.org do set you up well, if followed to the letter. |
| [05:42:00] | nicedreams: | i'm reading them page by page |
| [05:42:00] | NightMonkey: | nicedreams: You could get a web-based admin tool installed, like Webmin or phpmysql. |
| [05:42:00] | nicedreams: | and it skips this part |
| [05:43:00] | nicedreams: | hmmmm |
| [05:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythbackend wont start? What error does it give ? |
| [05:43:00] | nicedreams: | let me try that |
| [05:43:00] | nicedreams: | authentication rejected |
| [05:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nothing else? |
| [05:43:00] | nicedreams: | using password = no |
| [05:43:00] | nicedreams: | let me get error back up |
| [05:44:00] | rpete: | nicedreams, in mythtvsetup, did you specify 127.0.0.1 as the ip address of your server? |
| [05:44:00] | nicedreams: | Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. |
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| [05:45:00] | nicedreams: | i'm gonna try it again |
| [05:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Can't say I've seen that one |
| [05:46:00] | NightMonkey: | nicedreams: Yeah, mysql is complaining. |
| [05:48:00] | NightMonkey: | nicedreams: I'd install phpmysql. It's really very useful for working with mysql. Others may have other suggestions, though. |
| [05:48:00] | nicedreams: | i installed webmin-mysql |
| [05:48:00] | nicedreams: | i'm in it |
| [05:48:00] | nicedreams: | do i have to create a database? |
| [05:48:00] | NightMonkey: | nicedreams: No. Just add priviledges. |
| [05:48:00] | nicedreams: | i see mythconverg |
| [05:48:00] | nicedreams: | k |
| [05:49:00] | rpete: | nicedreams, we know mysql is accepting localhost |
| [05:49:00] | NightMonkey: | nicedreams: I have User: "Any" Host: "localhost" Password: "No" |
| [05:49:00] | rpete: | so mythtvsetup works, what did you use within mythtvsetup as ip address of server? |
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| [05:50:00] | nicedreams: | localhost |
| [05:50:00] | NightMonkey: | Ah. |
| [05:51:00] | nicedreams: | should i use the static ip |
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| [05:51:00] | NightMonkey: | Hmm... doesn't mysql.txt need to be setup as well? |
| [05:51:00] | NightMonkey: | nicedreams: Did you setup mysql.txt? |
| [05:52:00] | nicedreams: | no...didn't see that in the mythtv doc |
| [05:52:00] | NightMonkey: | nicedreams: It's been a while since I setup my mythtv box, but I think that needs to be set. Mine is in /usr/share/mythtv, but yours may vary. |
| [05:52:00] | NightMonkey: | Let me search the doc. One sec. |
| [05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think that setup and frontend detect that no mysql.txt exists and will create one for you after prompting you for info |
| [05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Of course I always make one before it's an issue so I've only seen the screen once |
| [05:53:00] | NightMonkey: | brb |
| [05:54:00] | rpete: | nicedreams, for the future, you should give mysql permissions for your static ip and all ips of frontends, then don't worry about localhost anywhere |
| [05:55:00] | nicedreams: | k |
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| [05:55:00] | nicedreams: | i mythtv-setup under root and now it's giving me more options |
| [05:55:00] | nicedreams: | wtf |
| [05:56:00] | abarbaccia: | hey – when i start up mythtv automatically at login – no sound works becuase something is using /dev/dsp – any idea what is using it – how to disable it or get around this? |
| [05:56:00] | Agrajag-: | using kde? |
| [05:57:00] | abarbaccia: | yes |
| [05:57:00] | Agrajag-: | probably a sound daemon, artsd |
| [05:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | abara: Try running lsof and see what process/user has already got it open ? |
| [05:57:00] | Agrajag-: | disable in the kde setup |
| [05:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or just don't run KDE :) |
| [05:57:00] | abarbaccia: | GreyFoxx, im thinkin about using a cut and dry wm, which do you recommend? |
| [05:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Personally I use icewm |
| [05:58:00] | abarbaccia: | alright, im gonna give it a try |
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| [05:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | but blackbox, icewm, ratpoisin all get used a lot |
| [05:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | If it's a dedicated myth box there is no reason to run something like kde |
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| [06:07:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, is there any cool theme that it's not in the default install? |
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| [06:19:00] | defaultro: | anyone around to answer question about firewire? |
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| [06:37:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys – im having a myth issue where when i go into any menu with a button to click (like when you go to exit) just hitting enter doesn't make it work, you need to hit control enter – any ideas why? |
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| [06:38:00] | RDMustang: | oh man, thanks abarbaccia.. I couldn't get buttons to work at all.. ctrl-enter works for me.. better than nothing |
| [06:38:00] | RDMustang: | wish I could get it back to normal tho |
| [06:40:00] | abarbaccia: | RDMustang, well, im glad im not the only one with this problem, but do you know what you did that changed it |
| [06:40:00] | RDMustang: | I did a dist-upgrade |
| [06:40:00] | abarbaccia: | becuase it worked initially when i first installed |
| [06:40:00] | abarbaccia: | hurm, odd. |
| [06:40:00] | RDMustang: | same here |
| [06:40:00] | abarbaccia: | control enter works, but the remote doesn't work even when using control enter |
| [06:40:00] | abarbaccia: | it's very odd |
| [06:41:00] | abarbaccia: | im googling it some more- i'll let ya kno what i get |
| [06:41:00] | RDMustang: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/121689 |
| [06:43:00] | RDMustang: | everything is qt's fault |
| [06:43:00] | abarbaccia: | just looking at that |
| [06:43:00] | abarbaccia: | i might force an install of an old Qt and make it so it doesn't upgrade it |
| [06:44:00] | abarbaccia: | that would be nice |
| [06:46:00] | xris: | hmm, google is broken |
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| [06:48:00] | abarbaccia: | xris, works for me |
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| [06:49:00] | defaultro: | hi xris |
| [06:49:00] | abarbaccia: | xris, can you help me with applying this patch? //www.mail-archive.com/mythtv-dev@mythtv.org/msg05668.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mail-archive.com/mythtv-dev@mythtv.org/msg05668.html |
| [06:50:00] | abarbaccia: | or anybody for that matter |
| [06:50:00] | defaultro: | familiar with firewire hd recording? |
| [06:50:00] | xris: | abarbaccia: it sends me to http://www.google.com/xhtml |
| [06:50:00] | xris: | can't get the homepage |
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| [06:50:00] | xris: | abarbaccia: anyway, I don't know anything about the compiled code for mythtv, sorry. |
| [06:52:00] | xris: | seems to be all gecko browsers. |
| [06:52:00] | xris: | well, transcode wins the quality war with ffmpeg. |
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| [06:53:00] | abarbaccia: | i'm having problems getting transcode to work, which will be my next step starting at probably 3am |
| [06:53:00] | xris: | abarbaccia: it doesn't work so well for me with nuv files, but works fine on mpeg2 files. |
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| [06:54:00] | abarbaccia: | hurm, aren't nuv files mpeg2 files? or am i mistaken? |
| [06:56:00] | abarbaccia: | RDMustang, i have a solution for you – msg me |
| [06:57:00] | xris: | abarbaccia: all files recorded with mythtv have a .nuv suffix, but they're only nuv (nupplevideo) if you have a bttv card. |
| [06:57:00] | xris: | otherwise, they're just mpeg2 files (from a pvr-250, etc) with a .nuv suffix. |
| [06:58:00] | abarbaccia: | oh, i have an mpeg card – nice! maybe you can help me out later with getting the transcoding working |
| [06:58:00] | xris: | just use nuvexport |
| [06:58:00] | abarbaccia: | i dont understnad – when i go to transcode it tells me something about hte daemon not running and hit a number key and if that doesnt work cry for help or somehitng |
| [07:01:00] | xris: | REALLY wish that ffmpeg had some actual documentation. |
| [07:01:00] | xris: | abarbaccia: you don't want to use myth's internal transcode. |
| [07:02:00] | xris: | that'll generate a real nuv file, most likely larger and of lesser quality than your mpeg. |
| [07:02:00] | abarbaccia: | hurm, alright – well what should i use and do you have a place where i can read about setting it up |
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| [07:06:00] | xris: | abarbaccia: nuvexport |
| [07:06:00] | xris: | plenty of info about it on google and in the list archives. |
| [07:06:00] | abarbaccia: | xris do i need the transcoding daemon to encode D V ds |
| [07:06:00] | xris: | but it's just a perl script wrapper to ffmpeg and/or transcode, and I've tried to make it as easy to use as possible. |
| [07:07:00] | xris: | abarbaccia: no daemon, nuvexport does that on its own. |
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| [07:16:00] | abarbaccia: | xris – you do anything wih nuv2disc? |
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| [07:18:00] | abarbaccia: | hurm – anything known about this? Waited too long for mythtranscode to create its fifos. Please try again. |
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| [07:48:00] | mchou: | defaultro, you around? |
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| [07:52:00] | defaultro: | hey |
| [07:52:00] | defaultro: | chatting in #linux |
| [07:52:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [07:52:00] | defaultro: | what's up? |
| [07:52:00] | mchou: | defaultro: watch house md tonite? |
| [07:52:00] | defaultro: | the president |
| [07:52:00] | defaultro: | i forgot the tile |
| [07:52:00] | defaultro: | title |
| [07:53:00] | mchou: | you need to watch house asap. |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | the black who had a seizure in his early days |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | do you want me to look at it now? |
| [07:53:00] | mchou: | so you watched it already? |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | just today |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | it's still recorded |
| [07:53:00] | mchou: | You think that chick is really leaving the show?? |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | hmmm |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | i don't think so |
| [07:54:00] | defaultro: | Dr house likes her too |
| [07:54:00] | defaultro: | that's what i think |
| [07:54:00] | defaultro: | Dr house will visit her in her house |
| [07:54:00] | mchou: | how do you explain the ending? |
| [07:54:00] | defaultro: | programs are always like that |
| [07:54:00] | mchou: | lol, house calls :) |
| [07:54:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [07:54:00] | defaultro: | then House will become rated R |
| [07:54:00] | defaultro: | lol |
| [07:54:00] | defaultro: | kidding |
| [07:55:00] | mchou: | but I told you, he spanked vogler. |
| [07:55:00] | defaultro: | oh yeah |
| [07:55:00] | defaultro: | i love that part |
| [07:55:00] | mchou: | next week another confrontation w/ vogler :) |
| [07:55:00] | defaultro: | that's gonna be really hot |
| [07:55:00] | ** xris hates video encoders. ** | |
| [07:55:00] | defaultro: | i'm gonna buy that dvd |
| [07:55:00] | mchou: | If she leaves the show there is no point in watching house :( |
| [07:56:00] | defaultro: | i saw 24 yesterday, did you? |
| [07:56:00] | defaultro: | exactly |
| [07:56:00] | defaultro: | 3 boys, nah |
| [07:56:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [07:56:00] | mchou: | defaultro: dont forget cuddy. |
| [07:56:00] | defaultro: | cuddy? |
| [07:56:00] | defaultro: | oh |
| [07:56:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [07:56:00] | mchou: | the hospital administrator |
| [07:56:00] | defaultro: | she's already brainwashed |
| [07:57:00] | mchou: | she is a chick, but not my type :) |
| [07:57:00] | defaultro: | she's not beautiful |
| [07:57:00] | defaultro: | she looks like an old maid |
| [07:57:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [07:57:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [07:57:00] | mchou: | she doesnt look that bad. |
| [07:57:00] | defaultro: | i like the 24 yesterday |
| [07:57:00] | defaultro: | there's a new program, OC on thursdays |
| [07:57:00] | mchou: | I dunno, 24 is getting old for me. |
| [07:58:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [07:58:00] | mchou: | OC has been around for quite some time. |
| [07:58:00] | defaultro: | im late again |
| [07:58:00] | mchou: | exactly :) |
| [07:58:00] | defaultro: | i hope im not late with Stacked |
| [07:58:00] | mchou: | Stacked?? |
| [07:58:00] | defaultro: | you're late |
| [07:58:00] | defaultro: | lol |
| [07:58:00] | mchou: | sounds lewd |
| [07:58:00] | defaultro: | Pamela Anderson |
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| [07:59:00] | mchou: | nope, no interest in that at all. |
| [07:59:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [07:59:00] | mchou: | I dont see what ppl see in Anderson. Butt ugly. |
| [07:59:00] | defaultro: | i was thinking that Dr House will kiss her |
| [07:59:00] | mchou: | nah, that would be out of character. |
| [07:59:00] | defaultro: | i told my wife, he didn't accept the handshake |
| [08:00:00] | mchou: | ol. |
| [08:00:00] | defaultro: | well, that answers our question |
| [08:00:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [08:00:00] | defaultro: | that means, Dr house is not accepting her leaving |
| [08:00:00] | mchou: | I dont see it that way. |
| [08:00:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [08:00:00] | mchou: | but I hope you're right :) |
| [08:00:00] | defaultro: | hehehe |
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| [08:01:00] | mchou: | remeber what she said: House always does what's right" |
| [08:01:00] | defaultro: | i know Numb3rs has been around, but i saw it last time, it's ok |
| [08:01:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [08:01:00] | defaultro: | but he mentioned that his not cutting anyone anymore |
| [08:02:00] | defaultro: | he'll just make a speech |
| [08:02:00] | mchou: | but I didnt get the bit about "protecting" herself. |
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| [08:02:00] | defaultro: | but if you notice, Dr house eyes were a bit wet |
| [08:02:00] | defaultro: | how do you say that |
| [08:02:00] | defaultro: | teary? lol |
| [08:02:00] | mchou: | defaultro: lol, you're reading way too much into it, I think. |
| [08:02:00] | defaultro: | hehehe |
| [08:03:00] | defaultro: | it's because, the program is so cool |
| [08:03:00] | mchou: | what, your wife tell you that? |
| [08:03:00] | defaultro: | i feel like im there |
| [08:03:00] | defaultro: | no |
| [08:03:00] | mchou: | I didn't detect any teary eyed stuff at all. |
| [08:03:00] | defaultro: | i saw it |
| [08:03:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [08:04:00] | defaultro: | when she was closing the door |
| [08:04:00] | defaultro: | however, the director cutted the scene |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [08:04:00] | defaultro: | cut |
| [08:04:00] | defaultro: | so tears didn't fall |
| [08:04:00] | defaultro: | lol |
| [08:04:00] | defaultro: | Dr house |
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| [08:04:00] | defaultro: | let's just wait next week dude |
| [08:04:00] | the-FoX: | good morning |
| [08:05:00] | mchou: | come on, you've been smoking too much dope. |
| [08:05:00] | defaultro: | lol |
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| [08:05:00] | defaultro: | she'll be there next week for sure |
| [08:05:00] | mchou: | next weeks clips they dont show the cameron chick |
| [08:05:00] | defaultro: | coz she needs to send the resignation letter |
| [08:05:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [08:06:00] | mchou: | what send resignation letter, mail it in...... |
| [08:06:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [08:06:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [08:06:00] | defaultro: | i've got to much vicodin |
| [08:06:00] | defaultro: | and robaxin |
| [08:06:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [08:06:00] | defaultro: | i took it last week due to my back injury in basketball |
| [08:06:00] | mchou: | how about that sleepwalker chick? |
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| [08:06:00] | defaultro: | im ok now |
| [08:07:00] | defaultro: | oh, she's hot |
| [08:07:00] | mchou: | She was cute too. |
| [08:07:00] | defaultro: | the thongs |
| [08:07:00] | mchou: | how come no one sleepwalks into my bed? |
| [08:07:00] | mchou: | :) |
| [08:07:00] | defaultro: | i wished someone does it to me too |
| [08:07:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [08:07:00] | defaultro: | intentional sleepwalk |
| [08:07:00] | defaultro: | i do it before |
| [08:08:00] | mchou: | lol, you're married. |
| [08:08:00] | defaultro: | when i was single |
| [08:08:00] | defaultro: | we had a rental appartment |
| [08:08:00] | defaultro: | i go there |
| [08:08:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [08:08:00] | defaultro: | some chicks there are beautiful |
| [08:08:00] | defaultro: | hehehe |
| [08:08:00] | mchou: | rug burn, lol :) |
| [08:08:00] | defaultro: | lol |
| [08:08:00] | defaultro: | carpet burn |
| [08:09:00] | defaultro: | hey, have you tried firewire capture? |
| [08:09:00] | mchou: | gues house is not a "family-oriented" show :) |
| [08:09:00] | mchou: | guess* |
| [08:09:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [08:10:00] | mchou: | tried firewire from a camera :) |
| [08:10:00] | defaultro: | any updates on your comcast capture? |
| [08:10:00] | mchou: | nope. |
| [08:10:00] | defaultro: | still isnt receiving anything? |
| [08:11:00] | mchou: | nope. |
| [08:11:00] | defaultro: | :( |
| [08:11:00] | mchou: | de nada |
| [08:11:00] | defaultro: | de nada? nope? |
| [08:11:00] | mchou: | just waiting till new air2pc comes in. |
| [08:12:00] | mchou: | then we shall see. :) |
| [08:12:00] | defaultro: | it's going to arrive in june right? |
| [08:12:00] | mchou: | who knows. |
| [08:12:00] | defaultro: | btw, heard that our air2pc QAM isn't good, is this true? |
| [08:12:00] | defaultro: | i'mplanning to buy another air2pc |
| [08:12:00] | mchou: | wouldn't surprise me if it gets delayed again. |
| [08:13:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [08:13:00] | mchou: | at the rate things are going, it will be after BF :) |
| [08:13:00] | defaultro: | it will arrive after BF day? |
| [08:13:00] | defaultro: | do you monitor a site about BF? |
| [08:13:00] | mchou: | probably, but who knows. |
| [08:13:00] | mchou: | no, you know a site? |
| [08:14:00] | defaultro: | nope |
| [08:14:00] | defaultro: | so what's the threat on mythtv about this? |
| [08:14:00] | mchou: | there is nothing to monitor. some places are already implementing BF. |
| [08:14:00] | defaultro: | is isaac force to stop developing this app? |
| [08:14:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [08:15:00] | defaultro: | im also interested in tivo, they're required to follow fcc too right? |
| [08:15:00] | mchou: | no, myth will always work for analog recording. |
| [08:15:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [08:15:00] | mchou: | tivo has BF in it already. |
| [08:15:00] | fryfrog: | what is bf? |
| [08:15:00] | mchou: | that's why I'm not getting tivo. |
| [08:15:00] | defaultro: | so you're saying that the quality in their HD is now degraded? |
| [08:16:00] | mchou: | no, they can record HD just fine,. |
| [08:16:00] | defaultro: | hmmm |
| [08:16:00] | mchou: | But it's a DRM device. |
| [08:16:00] | defaultro: | don[t know DRM device |
| [08:16:00] | mchou: | and I dont patronize DRM devices. |
| [08:16:00] | defaultro: | can they replay back |
| [08:17:00] | mchou: | certainly not going to pay for one. |
| [08:17:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [08:17:00] | mchou: | whole point to using linux and FOSS. |
| [08:18:00] | defaultro: | FOSS? |
| [08:18:00] | mchou: | Free Open Source |
| [08:18:00] | defaultro: | oh |
| [08:18:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [08:19:00] | defaultro: | i wish there were some opensource solution in recording discovery hd or non local hd |
| [08:19:00] | defaultro: | that will not be affected |
| [08:19:00] | defaultro: | firewire will be affected soon |
| [08:19:00] | mchou: | it's already affected. |
| [08:20:00] | defaultro: | oh |
| [08:20:00] | defaultro: | glad, i didnt purchase a firewire card |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | try recoding Dish thru firewire. |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | recording* |
| [08:20:00] | defaultro: | my dish is old |
| [08:20:00] | defaultro: | and it's not enabled |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | dish HD. |
| [08:20:00] | defaultro: | however, i can still see other programs |
| [08:20:00] | defaultro: | oh, i don't have Dish HD too |
| [08:21:00] | defaultro: | i was talking to my boss yesterday coz he has Dish HD |
| [08:21:00] | defaultro: | he was asking me on how he can record hd |
| [08:21:00] | mchou: | hehe :) |
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| [08:21:00] | defaultro: | i told him to transfer his coax from the receiver to air2pc |
| [08:21:00] | defaultro: | however, he's not that good in linux |
| [08:21:00] | mchou: | tell him he can't. |
| [08:21:00] | defaultro: | he saw my site |
| [08:21:00] | defaultro: | i told him that too |
| [08:21:00] | defaultro: | that he can't |
| [08:22:00] | defaultro: | i learned yesterday that those guys in northridge were monitoring my website |
| [08:22:00] | mchou: | coax to air2pc aint gonna do jack. |
| [08:22:00] | defaultro: | no, his external antenna |
| [08:22:00] | mchou: | northridge? |
| [08:22:00] | defaultro: | his receiver is ota capable too |
| [08:22:00] | defaultro: | yeah, he's from northridge |
| [08:22:00] | defaultro: | California |
| [08:23:00] | defaultro: | he's here in IL |
| [08:23:00] | mchou: | for OTA he wont even be able to record. |
| [08:23:00] | defaultro: | yeah, that's why i introduced him Air2pC :) |
| [08:23:00] | defaultro: | and today, we had a lunch meeting at Big Bowl, he started talking again to the group about HD recording |
| [08:23:00] | mchou: | not with coax from dish box he wont. |
| [08:23:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [08:24:00] | defaultro: | i told him that he will have to disconnect the external antenna cable and route it instead to air2pc |
| [08:24:00] | defaultro: | so some other guys who were in the lunch got interested too |
| [08:24:00] | mchou: | there is no need to do that. he can get a signal splitter. |
| [08:24:00] | defaultro: | they're buying air2pc this week or next week |
| [08:25:00] | defaultro: | that's a good idea mchou |
| [08:25:00] | defaultro: | i'll just tell him that |
| [08:25:00] | mchou: | anyways. theat cute chick better stay on House MD :) |
| [08:25:00] | mchou: | that* |
| [08:25:00] | defaultro: | or else, no more House |
| [08:25:00] | defaultro: | watching of House |
| [08:25:00] | mchou: | I'm gonna retire for the evening. |
| [08:26:00] | defaultro: | likewise |
| [08:26:00] | mchou: | later. |
| [08:26:00] | defaultro: | have a great morning |
| [08:26:00] | mchou: | hehe |
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| [08:26:00] | defaultro|zzzzzz: | :) |
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| [09:22:00] | truls: | google? |
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| [09:41:00] | tv-newbie: | Anybody here have any comments on VIA opensourcing it's CLE266 and other drivers? |
| [09:41:00] | tv-newbie: | usefull, or too little too late ? |
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| [14:57:00] | mtjs: | hi... if you 've viewed a show |
| [14:57:00] | mtjs: | is there a way to flag it 'viewed' ? |
| [14:58:00] | laga: | that'd be cool. |
| [14:58:00] | mtjs: | it doesn't exists now ? :D |
| [14:58:00] | mtjs: | isn't that like missing feature no 1 then ? |
| [15:00:00] | laga: | nope |
| [15:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | If it was then it would have been done long ago :) |
| [15:02:00] | CyberKnet: | * Y A W N * |
| [15:02:00] | mtjs: | GreyFoxx: yet it would be nice to be able to set a show viewed |
| [15:03:00] | mtjs: | for different users on different frontends :) |
| [15:03:00] | tv-newbie: | Anybody here have any comments on VIA opensourcing it's CLE266 and other drivers? Good or too little too late? |
| [15:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | mtjs: For some people maybe. PErsonally I have no use for it. But I can see where someone might want it |
| [15:03:00] | CyberKnet: | missing feature #1 is "get time from cable source" =P" |
| [15:03:00] | CyberKnet: | or |
| [15:03:00] | CyberKnet: | "Turn PBS into Porn Building System" |
| [15:04:00] | mtjs: | GreyFoxx: how do you manage what you've seen and what not ? |
| [15:04:00] | CyberKnet: | or "When i enter channel # 65535 take me to secret Porn section in MythVideo |
| [15:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | A little trick I can memory |
| [15:04:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: lol |
| [15:04:00] | mtjs: | CyberKnet: there are other pr0n bulder solutions |
| [15:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | plus I delete shows I've watched |
| [15:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | unless I want to archive them |
| [15:04:00] | laga: | google for porn-get ;) |
| [15:04:00] | CyberKnet: | I use the d key to manage what I have and have not watched. |
| [15:04:00] | mtjs: | GreyFoxx: some movies I want to keep... |
| [15:05:00] | mtjs: | CyberKnet: what is the d key do ? |
| [15:05:00] | mtjs: | now I 'add them to play list' :) |
| [15:05:00] | mtjs: | d is delete ? ;) |
| [15:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | mtjs: If you are keeping something for a long time, it makes more sense to use something like nuvexport to compress it down to and xvid , if only to save space |
| [15:05:00] | mtjs: | GreyFoxx: yes that is true |
| [15:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Anything I've archived/transcoded goes into another directory and I view them via mythvideo |
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| [15:06:00] | mtjs: | but now : I record 2–3 programs a day but I only watch tv sometimes... basicly I have tv on demand |
| [15:06:00] | mtjs: | and if you ahve a LOT of programs and watch them randomly, a 'have seen' button would be nice |
| [15:06:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: CyberKnet's law: All feature request discussions will eventually lead to someone suggesting the program do something with Porn. It's kind of like a sister-law to Godwin's law. |
| [15:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then do them chronilogically, view the oldest to the newets |
| [15:06:00] | mtjs: | CyberKnet: I don't want to have to watch the news before a look at a serie :)) |
| [15:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | mtjs: I think that's a rare circumstance, BUT I do see how it would be useful for you |
| [15:07:00] | mtjs: | GreyFoxx: :) |
| [15:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | And I;'m sure those who use it the same way would be grateful for you to add that feature :) |
| [15:07:00] | mtjs: | anyway : mythtv rulez! |
| [15:07:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: oh. |
| [15:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | mmmm porn |
| [15:07:00] | mtjs: | och pr0n fuckers :) |
| [15:08:00] | mtjs: | somewhere I have a file with + 60.000 links to pr0n files ;) |
| [15:08:00] | CyberKnet: | "As discussion about program feature requests grow longer, the probability of a mention of pr0n approaches one." |
| [15:08:00] | laga: | somewhere i have a directory with + 60.000 porn files...umm, never mind |
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| [15:09:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: It's okay. You have needs. |
| [15:10:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [15:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nothin wrong with porn in healthy doses :) |
| [15:13:00] | laga: | s/in healthy doses// |
| [15:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe well, there is what I personally consider an unhealthy level, but some is better than none :) |
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| [15:23:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: It's all in the output =) |
| [15:25:00] | Beirdo: | Ug, blah |
| [15:25:00] | CyberKnet: | caveman UG! |
| [15:25:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [15:25:00] | Beirdo: | this should be interesting |
| [15:26:00] | Beirdo: | in CVS, they moved stuff around last night, let's see how my setup likes in :) |
| [15:27:00] | mtjs: | laga: a file with links to files on the internet ;) |
| [15:27:00] | laga: | mtjs: poor guy |
| [15:27:00] | mtjs: | laga: I need only the good stuff ;) |
| [15:28:00] | mtjs: | I mean the REAL stuff ;) |
| [15:28:00] | laga: | you need to develop the right perversions. more choice, you know. |
| [15:29:00] | mtjs: | :) |
| [15:36:00] | ** CyberKnet ponders which type of pr0n is the "more choice" perversion ** | |
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| [15:36:00] | ** CyberKnet hopes like hell it's not 'mature' pr0n. ** | |
| [15:36:00] | CyberKnet: | *shudder* |
| [15:37:00] | Beirdo: | more likely sheep and other farm animals |
| [15:37:00] | laga: | i'm not scottish. |
| [15:37:00] | Beirdo: | hehe :) |
| [15:38:00] | CyberKnet: | "This here is your more exotic magazine. Notice the attention to detail they've placed in the .... pubic .... region" |
| [15:38:00] | CyberKnet: | But once again, if you'll turn to the center section... |
| [15:38:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [15:44:00] | ** Beirdo starts a compile under the new CVS organization ** | |
| [15:45:00] | Beirdo: | I like the reorg, but I need to adjust my scripts to suit :) |
| [15:45:00] | Beirdo: | well, makefiles |
| [15:51:00] | Beirdo: | oh how I love 64bit... |
| [15:51:00] | laga: | *drool* |
| [15:51:00] | Beirdo: | #1 0x00002aaaab1dbb55 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 |
| [15:51:00] | Beirdo: | that's a big pointer :) |
| [15:52:00] | CyberKnet: | man. takes balls to do a major code reorg right before a new release. |
| [15:52:00] | CyberKnet: | =P" |
| [15:52:00] | Beirdo: | well, it's to make the releases easier |
| [15:52:00] | Beirdo: | and it's about time... |
| [15:53:00] | ** CyberKnet does a co ** | |
| [15:53:00] | Beirdo: | all the plugins will be under mythplugins (I think it is) |
| [15:54:00] | Beirdo: | although I personally don't think mythweb should be under there, it should be packaged separately |
| [15:54:00] | CyberKnet: | yeah |
| [15:54:00] | CyberKnet: | I agree |
| [15:54:00] | CyberKnet: | mythweb isn't a plugin |
| [15:54:00] | CyberKnet: | so they haven't finished the code reorg then? |
| [15:54:00] | CyberKnet: | (still checking out) |
| [15:55:00] | Beirdo: | dunno if it's finished or not |
| [15:55:00] | Beirdo: | they did it last night |
| [15:56:00] | CyberKnet: | I wonder why they didn't put the mythplugins directory under mythtv |
| [15:56:00] | CyberKnet: | I could read the mailing list I guess. heh |
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| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | because mythtv will be tarred into one file |
| [15:58:00] | Beirdo: | mythplugins into another |
| [16:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | So you are stuck downloading all the plugins even if ya don't want them all :) |
| [16:03:00] | CyberKnet: | Well, I suppose that makes sense. |
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| [16:03:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: yeah, I hear ya |
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| [16:03:00] | Beirdo: | but it makes packaging a lot easier |
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| [16:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can see why it was done, just extra crap for me to download, but I'll live with it :) |
| [16:05:00] | sm1: | could someone give me an opinion about a frontend that i'm trying to add to my current setup? Its a celeron 700, 128 ram, tnt2 vid card and onboard sound. I'm trying to play recordings from my backend with a pvr* based card, but no matter which options I seem to fumble with there are always prebuffering pauses pretty frequently |
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| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: yeah, it kinda makes sense. :) |
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| [16:31:00] | SuperCatFrog: | hi – i had mythtv working in gentoo (but got bored of its compile times) so ive moved over to kubuntu. ive loaded the modules for my card but mythbackend said it cant open it (ive also done hotplug PCI) and ls /dev/dv[tab] put me straight onto /dev/dvd). any idea's how to create the device? |
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| [16:49:00] | SuperCatFrog: | hi – does anybody have any experience with dvb cards in ubuntu? ive loaded the modules but hotplug isn't creating the device node |
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| [16:59:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [17:00:00] | xris: | morning, all |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | Morning :) |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | hi xris & Beirdo |
| [17:00:00] | xris: | well, except for those who just hit noon |
| [17:00:00] | xris: | or later |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | 6pm for me ;) |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | so it seems 4G ain't enough for /usr on my PVR |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [17:04:00] | xris: | heh |
| [17:04:00] | xris: | so I discovered 4mv encoding in ffmpeg last night. |
| [17:04:00] | xris: | seems to help |
| [17:04:00] | xris: | transcode is still way better. |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | how much does the 4mv slow it down? |
| [17:05:00] | xris: | I wonder if mythtranscode's raw mode deinterlaces. |
| [17:05:00] | xris: | Beirdo: not noticeably. |
| [17:05:00] | xris: | I'll eventually make an "extra-ffmpeg-flags" kind of setting for each export type |
| [17:06:00] | SuperCatFrog: | oo – xris and beirdo are all knowledgeable (they can probably even spell knowledgeable properly) |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [17:06:00] | SuperCatFrog: | i'm in kubuntu and ive loaded the modules but hotplug isn't creating the device node for my dvb card, any idea's? |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | that might be a udev or similar issue |
| [17:06:00] | SuperCatFrog: | ok ta |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | might wanna pop over to an #ubuntu channel and ask |
| [17:07:00] | SuperCatFrog: | ok |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | I think it's not on this network though |
| [17:07:00] | SuperCatFrog: | tis |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | I think the "official" one is on oftc |
| [17:07:00] | SuperCatFrog: | o rite |
| [17:07:00] | Beirdo: | but whatever, as long as you find the people who'd have a good idea |
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| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | I haven't messed with that kind of stuff on my ubuntu boxes yet |
| [17:08:00] | fall0ut: | Ok, so whats the opinion on the PVR-150MCE ? |
| [17:10:00] | fall0ut: | does it work? |
| [17:11:00] | stoffel_: | afaik for some it works, but a better place to ask is the ivtv-dev mailing list |
| [17:12:00] | fall0ut: | hrm |
| [17:12:00] | fall0ut: | I guess I'll just spend the money on a PVR250 |
| [17:15:00] | SuperCatFrog: | bierdo – i think ive found the problem – dmesg told me to remove the snd_bt87x module (ive not got round to trying it yet though). i thought that might help you with your ubuntu boxes |
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| [17:28:00] | abarbaccia: | hey all – im trying to change my keybindings in mythweb and it will not let me change them, any idea as to why? i can scheudule recordings, but not change the bindings |
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| [17:46:00] | laga: | hmpf. licenses suck. |
| [17:47:00] | laga: | i've translated keys.txt (well, i'm in the progress of doing it). i guess it's licensed under the GPL, like mythtv. |
| [17:47:00] | laga: | i want to put it in a wiki. all content there is licensed under the gnu fdl. |
| [17:47:00] | laga: | are those licenses compatible? |
| [17:48:00] | RoCkY: | any ideas about where to setup username and pass for zapit tv guide? |
| [17:48:00] | laga: | or are things licensed under the GPL "public domain"? |
| [17:48:00] | stoffel_: | not according to debian afaik. gnu fdl licensed docs go into non-free. |
| [17:48:00] | laga: | RoCkY: in the setup. |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | RoCkY: in the setup app, whee you define the video source |
| [17:48:00] | laga: | stoffel_: well, this sucks. |
| [17:48:00] | RoCkY: | mythtv-setup ? |
| [17:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | If that's what it's called on your system, then yes :) |
| [17:49:00] | RoCkY: | i cant find it anywhere... i read in the docs it should be there ... |
| [17:49:00] | stoffel_: | reason being: the gnu fdl isn't really free |
| [17:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Did you install via a package or from source ? |
| [17:49:00] | RoCkY: | package |
| [17:49:00] | kormoc: | laga, use a different wiki? |
| [17:49:00] | laga: | well, sometimes, i think that the debian guys are a bunch of zealots, but it's likely that they're right. |
| [17:50:00] | laga: | kormoc: it's "mine", i'm hosting it. |
| [17:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Most packages put it there, but it could have a different name. maybe just mythsetup ? |
| [17:50:00] | laga: | kormoc: but i can't change the licence now. |
| [17:50:00] | stoffel_: | afaik the issue is the 'invariant sections' part of the gnu fdl |
| [17:50:00] | kormoc: | laga, change the package, there's gpled wikis out there I'm sure. |
| [17:50:00] | RoCkY: | mythtv-setup and i get general input channel and that stuff but nowhere any sign of zapit :( |
| [17:50:00] | laga: | kormoc: hehe. sorry. |
| [17:50:00] | RoCkY: | i guess i will have to try sources... |
| [17:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | RoCkY: It's in Video sources |
| [17:50:00] | laga: | kormoc: it's mediawiki. it's gpl, but the content that users put there is fdl. |
| [17:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Like I said |
| [17:51:00] | RoCkY: | GreyFoxx : tnx ill double check it ;-) |
| [17:51:00] | kormoc: | laga, hrm, so you picked that one? |
| [17:51:00] | stoffel_: | laga: why has all content in the wiki be licensed under the gfdl? |
| [17:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | All licenses suck. I like the BSD license, just like the one used by the OpenBSD people |
| [17:51:00] | laga: | kormoc: yep. i thought it was a good choice. |
| [17:51:00] | laga: | stoffel_: see above. |
| [17:52:00] | RoCkY: | GreyFoxx : tnx it's there right:) silly me |
| [17:52:00] | stoffel_: | laga: does mediawiki require this? |
| [17:52:00] | laga: | well, sounds like i won't be able to do that then. |
| [17:52:00] | laga: | stoffel_: no, it doesn't. you can specify the licence during the install, IIRC. |
| [17:52:00] | laga: | stoffel_: i can't change the licence anymore. too many content is already there. |
| [17:53:00] | laga: | stoffel_: even the stuff i posted has been modified by others. |
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| [17:53:00] | stoffel_: | ? so all content has to have the same license? and you have to choose the license during installation? |
| [17:54:00] | laga: | umm, no. |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | laga: which wiki are you talking about specifically? |
| [17:54:00] | kormoc: | laga, so just make this page is gpled, not fdled at the top of the wiki page with the translations? |
| [17:54:00] | laga: | when you start a new page, all content you put up there is fdl. |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | where? |
| [17:54:00] | laga: | Beirdo: www.mythwiki.de ;) |
| [17:55:00] | Beirdo: | gah |
| [17:55:00] | laga: | *snicker* |
| [17:55:00] | Beirdo: | silly Germans |
| [17:55:00] | laga: | i was talking about a translation. what did you expect? ;) |
| [17:55:00] | Beirdo: | let's spread out the documentation even further :) |
| [17:55:00] | laga: | kormoc: umm. probably. |
| [17:55:00] | laga: | Beirdo: yeah, whatever. |
| [17:55:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, who runs the wiki? |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | i do. |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | then change your license :) |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | it's your wiki :) |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | the content is licensed how YOU chose |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | yep. but what about the content that's already there? |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | and you can't really GPL keys.txt |
| [17:56:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, the other people who submitted content is who he is worried bout. |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | GPL is for source code |
| [17:57:00] | Beirdo: | well, what's the issue? |
| [17:57:00] | laga: | Beirdo: you sure? the licence says that the gpl can apply to any documents. |
| [17:57:00] | kormoc: | words are source code for ideas! |
| [17:57:00] | Beirdo: | GPL is for source code, which is why it talks about the source always being available |
| [17:58:00] | laga: | the source would be the original keys.txt. |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | it's meaningless to have source to a text file, it is its own source |
| [17:58:00] | laga: | no. |
| [17:58:00] | laga: | the translation is derived work. i'd have to provide the original keys.txt if someone requests it. |
| [17:58:00] | kormoc: | yeah, but it can be licenced that way to keep it with the real source of a project too. |
| [17:58:00] | stoffel_: | but apart from that, the gpl also works for documentation i think |
| [17:59:00] | laga: | stoffel_: yep. |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | gpl really doesn't apply to text files. now if your documentation were LaTeX, I could see it |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | then the source is the .tex files, and the output is a PDF |
| [17:59:00] | laga: | This License applies to any program or other work which contains |
| [17:59:00] | laga: | a notice placed by the copyright holder saying it may be distributed |
| [17:59:00] | laga: | under the terms of this General Public License. |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | but for a .txt file, the source is the output |
| [17:59:00] | laga: | "or other work". |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | so keep a copy of the original keys.txt that you translated from |
| [18:00:00] | laga: | well, the keys.txt doesnt have this notice, but read COPYING |
| [18:00:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [18:00:00] | stoffel_: | but the text files could be processed into say html, or a pdf, in this case the ascii text is the original source |
| [18:00:00] | laga: | but there's still the issue that i cant just post it on the wiki without chaging the licence, at least for this article. |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | or ask Isaac (nicely) to clarify the license on that file |
| [18:01:00] | laga: | it has been processed by my brain ;) |
| [18:01:00] | laga: | Beirdo: umm, yep. a good idea. |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | you can if Isaac allows it |
| [18:01:00] | laga: | doesn'T isaac have to ask any other authors first? ;) |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | theoretically, but I don't think any of them will give two shits if you are putting a translation under FDL |
| [18:02:00] | stoffel_: | see, open-source sucks ;) |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | to be exact, cvs log keys.txt |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | any author who's checked stuff in would be technically who'd have to agree to a license change :) |
| [18:02:00] | laga: | stoffel_: heh. |
| [18:03:00] | laga: | yeah. "freedom". i see. ;) |
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| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | I think getting the documentation put officially under FDL shouldn't cause an issue, but that's up to them to decide |
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| [18:04:00] | Shadowlaw: | Hey all...upgraded to 0.17, but now whenever I play a recording (done with 0.16) the endtime of the recording changes constantly (while it's no longer being recorded) |
| [18:04:00] | Shadowlaw: | and playback hangs for a while then |
| [18:04:00] | Shadowlaw: | sounds familiar to anyone? :) |
| [18:04:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i wish i didn't have to care about this stuff. |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
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| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | laga: or put a specific exception on that wiki page saying it specifically is under GPL |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | and keep around a keys.txt should anyone ever ask |
| [18:06:00] | laga: | yep, sounds like a good idea to me. |
| [18:06:00] | laga: | but i could still kick my ass that i didn't think earlier about this. |
| [18:06:00] | Beirdo: | of course, that's just sucky, but not like he's really giving you a choice |
| [18:06:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [18:07:00] | laga: | *sigh* |
| [18:07:00] | laga: | i probably should read some EULAs to cheer me up ;) |
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| [18:09:00] | laga: | i wonder if it's legal to quote the docs, at least. |
| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | just do it |
| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:10:00] | laga: | hehe ;) |
| [18:11:00] | laga: | i wonder when isaac will sue me ;) |
| [18:11:00] | Beirdo: | it's not like you are taking it and making it non-free anyways |
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| [18:14:00] | BarryMead: | I have used many other linux distros, but I am new to debian (KnoppMyth). What I need to do is to somhow get KnoppMyth to boot in a terminal only mode (without loading X) so that I can compile the NVIDIA drivers and change the XF86Config-4 file before it loads up in X again. Is there a boot prompt command to do this easily? |
| [18:15:00] | cesman: | <ctrl><alt><f1> |
| [18:15:00] | cesman: | install-nv<tab> |
| [18:15:00] | cesman: | does it all |
| [18:15:00] | cesman: | there is a #knoppmyth channel... |
| [18:16:00] | BarryMead: | I tried ctrl alt f1 but it says that it can't compile cause the x is still running. |
| [18:16:00] | BarryMead: | I will switch to the #knoppmyth channel |
| [18:16:00] | laga: | BarryMead: init 2 |
| [18:16:00] | cesman: | /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| [18:17:00] | catphish: | evening |
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| [18:49:00] | marc_gerges: | good evening |
| [18:50:00] | marc_gerges: | does anybody here have insight on the current status of the CLE266 implementation for video output? Is it on par quality wise to the PVR350's output? |
| [18:56:00] | killefiz: | is anyone here using nxtvepg? |
| [18:56:00] | fall0ut: | btw, in response to my question yesterday about being able to remotely control the screen via mythweb: |
| [18:56:00] | fall0ut: | http://www.magicitx.com/modules.php?name=Cont . . . 3&page=5 |
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| [19:06:00] | CyberKnet: | wow. The guy is using images, but just scanned one in with the wrong text on each button. |
| [19:06:00] | CyberKnet: | You'd think he'd just make one in any paint application with the right text. |
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| [19:08:00] | fall0ut: | either way thats still pretty neat |
| [19:09:00] | CyberKnet: | no idea why he felt the need to use xml-rpc/json though |
| [19:09:00] | CyberKnet: | he could have done it in straight cgi and it would have worked on his pda too. |
| [19:10:00] | CyberKnet: | To some extent, I think someone went in search of a solution looking for a problem. |
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| [19:31:00] | BattousaiX: | Hey. |
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| [19:57:00] | truls: | any clues at to what affects encoding time the most when using ffmpeg through nuvexport? |
| [19:57:00] | truls: | resizing? high quality? low size? |
| [19:58:00] | truls: | resizing to something that's not a multiple of something? |
| [19:58:00] | truls: | reason i'm asking is that "suddenly" my encoding times doubled |
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| [19:58:00] | truls: | so now i'm using 16 hours instead of 6 |
| [19:59:00] | truls: | which means i can't encode everything i record, even though i only record a few hours each day |
| [19:59:00] | truls: | (xvid btw) |
| [20:02:00] | truls: | so it might have to do with me changing recording size from 720x528 to 720x576 (and encoded size from 480x360 to 480x368) |
| [20:03:00] | truls: | or it might be that before i used video quality 3 in nuvexport, whereas now i have to set video bitrate specifically (used default of 960) |
| [20:03:00] | truls: | or it might just be a new version of nuvexport/ffmpeg |
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| [20:20:00] | xris: | truls: vbr takes longer than cbr |
| [20:22:00] | truls: | didnt i use vbr before and cbr now? |
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| [20:37:00] | xris: | truls: sorry, thought you said it was shorter now (misread). |
| [20:37:00] | xris: | anyway, are you using multipass now? |
| [20:42:00] | xris: | that would make something twice as slow |
| [20:42:00] | xris: | and changing the res, etc would slow things down, too |
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| [20:47:00] | SuperCatFrog: | hi – can anybody help me with this error on mythweb? |
| [20:47:00] | SuperCatFrog: | Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/init.php on line 54 |
| [20:49:00] | stoffel_: | is php's mysql driver installed |
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| [20:53:00] | bbeattie: | Is there a list of the current CVS repositories anywhere? I'm aware of mythtv, mythplugins, myththemes and mythfrontend, are there any others? |
| [20:55:00] | bbeattie: | .. the current CVS docs don't list the new ones.. |
| [20:56:00] | Mrgoose: | xris |
| [20:56:00] | Mrgoose: | im doin some bash scripting |
| [20:56:00] | Mrgoose: | my script calls on an external program and does like nzperl $filname , now is there anyway after nzbperl is finished you can make it go back to the script and run the rest of it? |
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| [20:59:00] | cuqui: | hello... |
| [20:59:00] | cuqui: | i've a little problem with de remote control |
| [21:00:00] | truls: | xris: yep, did multipass, so that made it even slower, but even at each pass it uses 5 fps, as opposed to 10–15 fps before when encoding |
| [21:00:00] | cuqui: | anyone can help me? |
| [21:00:00] | truls: | xris: so actually the total time now might be even more than double |
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| [21:02:00] | truls: | guess ill check what the default settings in last version of nuvexport were for xvid, everything except quality (where i used 3) and resolution were perfect for me |
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| [21:05:00] | SuperCatFrog: | stoffel_ – i think so, how can i find out (php's mysql driver) |
| [21:06:00] | SuperCatFrog: | stoffel_ – synaptic is telling me php4-mysql is installed |
| [21:06:00] | stoffel_: | is it also activated in php.ini? |
| [21:07:00] | SuperCatFrog: | i dunno, i'l gander |
| [21:07:00] | SuperCatFrog: | ive never seen this file before, is there something i can search for? |
| [21:07:00] | SuperCatFrog: | (inside the file) |
| [21:08:00] | stoffel_: | /etc/php4/apache/php.ini is the place for debian |
| [21:08:00] | SuperCatFrog: | i mean the line in the file – a particular directive |
| [21:09:00] | SuperCatFrog: | oh crap, gtg – back in about half an hour |
| [21:09:00] | stoffel_: | s/t like extension=mysql.so, SuperCatFrog |
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| [21:12:00] | cuqui: | hi... i've configured the remote control and mythtv when i push the down key goto down but next open the tv watch screen |
| [21:13:00] | cuqui: | anyone can help me |
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| [21:22:00] | javajunky: | evenin |
| [21:23:00] | javajunky: | any dvb uk users in the room tonight ? |
| [21:30:00] | truls: | xris: seems the best way to get shorter encode times is record at a size closer to encoded resolution... used to record everything at 720x576, so i guess i'll turn it down to 480x368 or something |
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| [21:33:00] | xris: | truls: shouldn't really matter that much. the matrix transformations are pretty much the same, just different numbers to multiple/divide. |
| [21:33:00] | xris: | but adding an extra 720x60 pixels per frame would slow things down. |
| [21:35:00] | truls: | didnt think resizing was that slow |
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| [21:35:00] | xris: | though I guess if they apply some kind of noise reduction or something to the resize, it might slow things down a little. |
| [21:35:00] | truls: | going from 720x576 to 480x368 halved the encode time |
| [21:35:00] | xris: | truls: resizing means that there's an extra x% of the frame to encode. |
| [21:35:00] | truls: | not if the result is the same |
| [21:35:00] | truls: | you resize before you encode |
| [21:35:00] | truls: | i'd guess |
| [21:35:00] | xris: | yes. |
| [21:36:00] | xris: | but then you have to encode those extra pixels |
| [21:36:00] | truls: | both examples were encoded to 480x368 |
| [21:36:00] | xris: | oh |
| [21:36:00] | truls: | just the sources were different sized |
| [21:36:00] | xris: | thought it was going the other way, sorry |
| [21:36:00] | truls: | sure |
| [21:36:00] | truls: | but i found the results kinda surprising |
| [21:37:00] | xris: | yeah, that is a bit odd |
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| [21:38:00] | SuperCatFrog: | back stoffel_ – that line was already there |
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| [21:39:00] | truls: | xris: in the older version of nuvexport, i chose vbr quality 3, and never got a bitrate-setting (which was fine by me), but now, when selecting xvid, no multipass, i get the vbr quality choice and then an added choice for bitrate. is choosing the default value there the same as not having the choice before? |
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| [21:40:00] | xris: | truls: I don't think so. |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | I was recently told that I should set a bitrate for VBR because ffmpeg likes to have a min/max range (which are based on the bitrate passed in) |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | I don't know what value would have defaulted before. |
| [21:40:00] | truls: | ok |
| [21:41:00] | ** truls tries to remember to "embrace change" :) ** | |
| [21:42:00] | xris: | that's ok, I think I made things even slower last night by adding 4mv to the xvid options. |
| [21:42:00] | truls: | heh |
| [21:42:00] | ** truls dreams of realtime encoding ** | |
| [21:43:00] | truls: | btw: is there a way to export show-descriptions now, or would i have to hack the sourcecode again? |
| [21:43:00] | laga: | exporting show descriptions would indeed be cool. |
| [21:43:00] | truls: | in a preivous version i made it always save a .txt with each encode, which had the description |
| [21:44:00] | truls: | very useful |
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| [21:47:00] | xris: | truls: I'd accept a patch to provide a commandline/rc option to do it. |
| [21:47:00] | laga: | go for it, truls! ;) |
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| [21:49:00] | truls: | xris: i'll see what i get done, it would probably be very tailored for my needs though, especially since i'm not that familiar with the source code |
| [21:49:00] | truls: | most changes ares pretty rough hacks |
| [21:49:00] | truls: | are |
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| [21:50:00] | xris: | anyone else see the hardware-encoder review on /. ? I don't see the problems they talk about on my pvr-150 |
| [21:51:00] | SuperCatFrog: | xris – iirc the article was about the half sized pci card version – a lot of people think the reviewer didn't want the 150 to win (or soemthing like that) |
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| [21:52:00] | xris: | what I see in the screenshots are post-deinterlaced frames. |
| [21:53:00] | xris: | which completely defeats the purpose of showing encoded screenshots to compare image quality. |
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| [22:06:00] | SuperCatFrog: | argh! crappy mandrake 10.11 – an upgrade to perl by urpmi on my gf's dads computer broke everything which depends on perl. including urpmi, so ive got to fix the bloody thing by hand |
| [22:06:00] | laga: | QA rocks. |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | go, crappy mandrake |
| [22:07:00] | SuperCatFrog: | i never thought i would be glad to have a cd full of rpm's |
| [22:07:00] | SuperCatFrog: | *fixed* |
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| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | gah, why can't this song fuck off? |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | stupid Queen with their catchy stupid songs |
| [22:14:00] | fith: | You mean ManDriver or Mandrivvel, or what ever :) |
| [22:14:00] | flouger: | any reason my channel listtings are correct on time but when i go to my website the time is way behind? |
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| [22:16:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: Like Let It Be? |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | Lover Boy |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | by Queen |
| [22:16:00] | CyberKnet: | aaah. Just trying to get another song in your head. |
| [22:22:00] | Semhirage: | well i almost got my tuner card working |
| [22:22:00] | Semhirage: | =/ |
| [22:22:00] | Semhirage: | trying new how-to this time, one aimed specifcally at my distro/card |
| [22:23:00] | truls: | Semhirage: good luck to you |
| [22:23:00] | stoffel_: | bah, queen rocks |
| [22:23:00] | Semhirage: | gentoo with a pvr150 |
| [22:23:00] | Semhirage: | sound quality is amazingly excellent |
| [22:23:00] | Semhirage: | video and remote are only things giving me troubles |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | yes, Queen rocks |
| [22:24:00] | Semhirage: | about to do a fresh install of ivtv and lirc and then rebuild mythtv |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | but when it's on endless loop in your head, they start to suck real bad |
| [22:24:00] | stoffel_: | maybe your head sucks? ;) |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | that's quite likely |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:25:00] | Semhirage: | i have a pair of 200GB hd's for storage duties for mythtv and everything else, what would you guys suggest for a filesystem for these drives |
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| [22:26:00] | Beirdo: | here's where the student gets to demonstrate his understanding... |
| [22:26:00] | Beirdo: | what do you think would be a good filesystem scheme? |
| [22:27:00] | Semhirage: | well, the tutorials suggest xfs, which i think would be ok, but i also have a number of small document files that will be going in storage |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | XFS over LVM is a farily decent methodology |
| [22:28:00] | SuperCatFrog: | isn't xfs supposed to be dangerous unless your using a UPS? |
| [22:28:00] | SuperCatFrog: | or is that JFS? |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | what difference does a UPS make? :) |
| [22:28:00] | SuperCatFrog: | it gives the FS chance to not wreck all the files |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | I haven't seen it mess up |
| [22:29:00] | SuperCatFrog: | to do sync and shutdown cleanly |
| [22:29:00] | Beirdo: | you should always use a UPS if your power's flaky regardless of filesystem used |
| [22:30:00] | SuperCatFrog: | i know, but XFS is apparently pretty dodgy |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | SGI has used it for many years |
| [22:31:00] | SuperCatFrog: | m'kay |
| [22:32:00] | fith: | No, XFS is more obvious about the damage (it tends to truncate writes in progress with NUL's), where ext3 and reiser tend to pretend things are okay (and hope that fsck get's the damage) |
| [22:32:00] | fith: | s/get's/repairs/ |
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| [22:38:00] | Delemas_: | hmm anyone tried getting an eVGA NVTV card going w/ mythtv? |
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| [22:39:00] | Delemas_: | hmm it seems to be SAA7134 based.. |
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| [22:41:00] | purplefrog: | Slashdot referenced a techreport.com article which generally disrespected the Hauppauge PVR-150MCE l.p. on the basis of image quality. |
| [22:41:00] | purplefrog: | I didn't even know of the existence of "PCI low profile" cards. |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | slashdot is a waste of time and energy |
| [22:43:00] | ** Delemas_ shrugs ** | |
| [22:43:00] | purplefrog: | It's good for when your brain is fried from working and you need a 30-minute fluff break. |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:44:00] | stoffel_: | 30min for /.? you are reading the articles? ;) |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | it would just piss me off, I'd rather take a look at my home computers and see what broke |
| [22:44:00] | purplefrog: | I am a freak. I do read the articles. What else is there to do? post? Get real. |
| [22:44:00] | purplefrog: | My home computers don't break much this month. |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | you obviously don't have enough of them |
| [22:45:00] | purplefrog: | Point. There are only 6 powered on usually. |
| [22:46:00] | Beirdo: | \o/ |
| [22:46:00] | Beirdo: | new Trailer Park Boys on Sunday |
| [22:46:00] | Beirdo: | about frigging time |
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| [22:51:00] | Semhirage: | any idea what happened to ckennedy's site |
| [22:51:00] | Semhirage: | i keep have massive issues getting ivtv |
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| [22:54:00] | Delemas_: | try by ip |
| [22:55:00] | Delemas_: | actually it seems to have moved to http://www.ivtv.tv/ |
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| [23:00:00] | abarbaccia: | hey – if im using a standard NTSC TV – do i have to worry about resolution output to the TV? like is it bad if i put it on too high a resolution? |
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| [23:18:00] | o_cee: | stoffel_, use record all or record weekly or something else, record one is supposed to just record _one_ showing |
| [23:19:00] | stoffel_: | err, doesn't the 1 in fix recording conflicts screen just mean which tuner it will use? |
| [23:19:00] | o_cee: | could be :O |
| [23:19:00] | stoffel_: | it's set to record always on this channel |
| [23:19:00] | o_cee: | just press enter on the other ones and get a nice desc of what's happening |
| [23:20:00] | stoffel_: | they won't get recorded, as myth believes they other episode is a repeat |
| [23:20:00] | o_cee: | so the descriptions are all the same? |
| [23:20:00] | stoffel_: | it's marked E, earlier showing |
| [23:21:00] | stoffel_: | no, they are not, that's why i'm wondering |
| [23:21:00] | stoffel_: | the titles are the same, and no subtitles |
| [23:21:00] | stoffel_: | though |
| [23:21:00] | o_cee: | then the dupmethod should be desc |
| [23:21:00] | o_cee: | and it should all work |
| [23:21:00] | flouger: | my mythweb time is off |
| [23:21:00] | flouger: | the program listing is to the right time |
| [23:21:00] | flouger: | but the time it thinks it is is off |
| [23:21:00] | flouger: | any way to fix this |
| [23:22:00] | stoffel_: | o_cee: didn't you made some changes to mfd to create s/t like a epside id? |
| [23:23:00] | o_cee: | mfd, no |
| [23:23:00] | o_cee: | episode id, yes, if you have episode info from the xml |
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| [23:23:00] | stoffel_: | ups, mythfilldatabase |
| [23:23:00] | o_cee: | yeah mythfill |
| [23:23:00] | stoffel_: | that's the episode-num entry iirc? |
| [23:23:00] | o_cee: | yes |
| [23:23:00] | stoffel_: | this series doesn't have that |
| [23:24:00] | o_cee: | if you get both season and episode you'll get a nice episode id |
| [23:24:00] | o_cee: | press U to see if there's any more info |
| [23:24:00] | stoffel_: | what's the season? |
| [23:24:00] | o_cee: | you tell me |
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| [23:24:00] | stoffel_: | ahh, nice |
| [23:24:00] | stoffel_: | o_cee: another entry in the xml data? |
| [23:25:00] | o_cee: | stoffel_, it's part of episode-num |
| [23:25:00] | stoffel_: | ah, so no season, as this series doesn't have episode numbers in the epg. |
| [23:26:00] | o_cee: | if it doesn't have any episode id, there's no such info no |
| [23:26:00] | stoffel_: | so, the program id for two episodes is identical |
| [23:27:00] | stoffel_: | but that shouldn't matter as the descriptions differ i'd think |
| [23:27:00] | o_cee: | nope |
| [23:28:00] | stoffel_: | nope as it doesn't matter? |
| [23:29:00] | stoffel_: | does the genre matter to the scheduler? it's set to movie |
| [23:29:00] | o_cee: | if there's no episode-id generated then it doesn't affect it |
| [23:29:00] | o_cee: | could have, don't know |
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| [23:30:00] | stoffel_: | err, i'm using german here, so MV75720386 is the episode-id? or it's the episode-num entry from the xml data? |
| [23:30:00] | o_cee: | MV indicates it's a movie |
| [23:30:00] | o_cee: | and yes it's the e-id |
| [23:31:00] | stoffel_: | ah, so the episode-id seems to be taken into account. |
| [23:32:00] | ** stoffel_ starts phpmyadmin to modify the episode-id's ** | |
| [23:33:00] | o_cee: | yeah they take over |
| [23:34:00] | stoffel_: | so the logic to generate a episode-id isn't smart enough in this case. |
| [23:34:00] | o_cee: | your xmltv data is wrong |
| [23:34:00] | stoffel_: | not wrong, just very basic ;) |
| [23:35:00] | o_cee: | uhm, marking series as movies can't be considered basic, better to just not give any category |
| [23:35:00] | stoffel_: | i didn't know the categories are even considered for the schedule |
| [23:36:00] | o_cee: | since it's marked as a movie it is, pretty much the only case |
| [23:36:00] | stoffel_: | and i think it's wrong |
| [23:36:00] | o_cee: | movies are handled differently (of course) |
| [23:36:00] | o_cee: | checking in tvtoday changes soon, got a minute to verify i didn't mess anything up? why aren't you using that one btw? |
| [23:37:00] | stoffel_: | i thought, only the 'recording type' matter to the scheduler |
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| [23:37:00] | o_cee: | no the episode-id takes precedence |
| [23:37:00] | stoffel_: | o_cee: i'm using another one for some time now, and all my schedules rely on it's epg data. but actually i use tvgrabtoday for a few foreign channels, just forgot abou it |
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| [23:38:00] | o_cee: | btw, you think --icons should be used? |
| [23:38:00] | o_cee: | B<--icons> get the URL for channel-logos together with the channel-list. |
| [23:38:00] | o_cee: | Mind that this takes a long time, since a webpage has to be requested for |
| [23:38:00] | o_cee: | every channel. |
| [23:39:00] | StringBlade: | anyone else having problems getting plugin code from CVS? |
| [23:39:00] | stoffel_: | i dunno, sorry. i never used that option |
| [23:39:00] | StringBlade: | I'm using cvs -z3 -d :pserver:mythtv@cvs.mythtv.org :/var/lib/mythcvs checkout myth |
| [23:39:00] | StringBlade: | after logging in of course |
| [23:39:00] | StringBlade: | er, mythphone at the end |
| [23:39:00] | o_cee: | try mythplugins |
| [23:39:00] | StringBlade: | and it says 'module not found' |
| [23:40:00] | StringBlade: | that too |
| [23:40:00] | o_cee: | and reading the mailinglist |
| [23:40:00] | StringBlade: | pretty much every plugin dosen't want to be found |
| [23:40:00] | o_cee: | they're renamed |
| [23:40:00] | stoffel_: | btw, tvgrabtoday offers epg data for austrian national tv, but i don't know wether the data is correct. |
| [23:40:00] | StringBlade: | but I grabbed them earlier (read: a week ago) with the same stuff |
| [23:40:00] | o_cee: | StringBlade, crap can't you read?? |
| [23:40:00] | StringBlade: | then the CVS web viewer hasn't been updated then? |
| [23:40:00] | StringBlade: | yes, I can thanks oc |
| [23:40:00] | o_cee: | no, apparently not |
| [23:41:00] | StringBlade: | sorry I'm not 100 wpm like you |
| [23:41:00] | o_cee: | stoffel_, presents itself as a german grabber in the help so i'll leave it to that |
| [23:41:00] | stoffel_: | o_cee: but i believe most austrian users will be smart enough to try the german grabber in the absense of an austrian one ;) |
| [23:41:00] | o_cee: | stoffel_, hopefully. it'll be "Germany (tvtoday)" |
| [23:42:00] | stoffel_: | should be ok, as others just symlinked it to tv_grab_de in the past |
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| [23:43:00] | Semhirage: | wow i just ran into a huge problem |
| [23:43:00] | o_cee: | bah commited now |
| [23:43:00] | Semhirage: | ./etc/init.d/lircd file not found |
| [23:43:00] | Semhirage: | =( |
| [23:43:00] | stoffel_: | o_cee: how's the series_id made up? |
| [23:45:00] | stoffel_: | the description isn't taken into account for that it seems |
| [23:45:00] | o_cee: | stoffel_, the series id is a string that's generated from the title |
| [23:46:00] | o_cee: | it's specific for that particular show |
| [23:46:00] | stoffel_: | and the same for all epsiodes of a series |
| [23:46:00] | stoffel_: | ? |
| [23:46:00] | o_cee: | exactly |
| [23:46:00] | stoffel_: | hrm |
| [23:46:00] | Semhirage: | anyone here running gentoo have a /etc/init.d/lircd they could put up so i can fix my system? |
| [23:47:00] | o_cee: | it's pretty useless, since it changes if the title changes (but it's needed to generate the e-id). the idea is that the seriesid is the same even if they change the name of the show |
| [23:47:00] | Semhirage: | please |
| [23:47:00] | o_cee: | Semhirage, emerge -av lirc ? |
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| [23:48:00] | Semhirage: | i've emerge lirc twice now and its still gone |
| [23:48:00] | stoffel_: | o_cee: by e-id you're talking about the sydicatedepisodenumber? |
| [23:48:00] | o_cee: | stoffel_, yes |
| [23:48:00] | o_cee: | Semhirage, then the ebuild is fucked or something |
| [23:48:00] | stoffel_: | and if episode-num is present, that's put into syndicatedep...? |
| [23:49:00] | o_cee: | if you have an episode-num with both episode and season info, a syndic.. (e-id) is generated |
| [23:49:00] | o_cee: | looks at the code, it's quite straight-forward |
| [23:49:00] | stoffel_: | o_cee: do you have an example xml of the episode AND season info? |
| [23:50:00] | o_cee: | tv.swedb.se/xmltv look at tv3's data |
| [23:50:00] | o_cee: | or just read the xmltv dtd |
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| [23:50:00] | stoffel_: | wow, tv stations are not that kind to offer xmltv data here in germany |
| [23:50:00] | o_cee: | we're moving along quite nice |
| [23:51:00] | stoffel_: | o_cee: don't you run this site? |
| [23:51:00] | o_cee: | tough in the beginning, but not as hard now when we've got the major chans there |
| [23:51:00] | o_cee: | yes |
| [23:51:00] | stoffel_: | cool |
| [23:51:00] | o_cee: | yep |
| [23:51:00] | o_cee: | reliable :) |
| [23:51:00] | o_cee: | varying quality of data thou |
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